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Title: NBA investigating Lakers for "PG13 tampering" probe. Focus on Magic Johnson
Post by: CelticsElite on August 20, 2017, 04:55:50 PM
http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/20398462/magic-johnson-los-angeles-lakers-being-investigated-possible-tampering-regarding-paul-george

 :D

Pacers filed tampering charges. Now the probe is underway and they might not be able to get George now

Los Angeles can be punished in several ways, including a loss of draft picks, financial fines up to $5 million, future restrictions on acquiring George and possible suspensions of offending officials.


The Lakers  cheated
Title: Re: NBA investigating Lakers for "PG13 tampering" probe. Focus on Magic Johnson
Post by: GreenFaith1819 on August 20, 2017, 05:25:46 PM
No worries.

"IF" they lose PG 13 (provided that he even LEAVES OKC) then LeBron will soon be arriving anyways.

To be honest I am hoping (to some extent) for The Lakers revival. The two franchises with perhaps the GREATEST rivalry in ALL of sports SHOULD be competing against one another.

I truly want to play the Lakers more than TWICE per year. I want to play them in June, too.

You / we can hate Magic from a competitive standpoint but as a person / player / businessman he's VERY successful. Ms. Buss hiring him will pay HUGE dividends for The Lakers.
Title: Re: NBA investigating Lakers for "PG13 tampering" probe. Focus on Magic Johnson
Post by: hwangjini_1 on August 20, 2017, 05:38:36 PM
i have seen the "lebron to LA" story a number of times. please provide the sources to this? or is it all simply whim and wishing?

why would lebron leave cleveland to go to a team that is not good right now. and even if he and a few others go there, they will not jell as a team for 1-2 years and the young players have to develop.

all of this takes time, something lebron no longer has. i do not see the logic in him joining LA. SA? yes, i can see.
Title: Re: NBA investigating Lakers for "PG13 tampering" probe. Focus on Magic Johnson
Post by: Neurotic Guy on August 20, 2017, 05:38:39 PM
Don't the Lakers automatically get the 2nd pick until they are contenders?  I think it's in the by-laws.

Maybe the penalty will be "No #2 for You" in 2018 (when they dont have their pick anyway). 
Title: Re: NBA investigating Lakers for "PG13 tampering" probe. Focus on Magic Johnson
Post by: GreenFaith1819 on August 20, 2017, 06:02:34 PM
i have seen the "lebron to LA" story a number of times. please provide the sources to this? or is it all simply whim and wishing?

why would lebron leave cleveland to go to a team that is not good right now. and even if he and a few others go there, they will not jell as a team for 1-2 years and the young players have to develop.

all of this takes time, something lebron no longer has. i do not see the logic in him joining LA. SA? yes, i can see.

There are no sources (yet) for LeBron to The Lakers.

But to me it makes sense.

Where else would LeBron go? I'm sure he loves and respects Magic AND the fact that it's Hollywood would pay HUGE dividends for LeBron I'm sure.

I'm also certain that "IF" LeBron choose LA that Magic would not rest until he assembled pieces around him to compete right away.

Magic is building it and they will most certainly come.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7SB16il97yw

Why "WOULDN'T" he want to go to LA? He'd be able to play against GSW a lot more times THEN as he would NOW.

He'd have a capable PG in place in Lonzo Ball. He has "SPECIAL" written all over him, Lonzo does.

Brandon Ingram will probably be better as well.

He'd have a capable coach in Luke Walton in place.

"IF" he leaves CLE his rep may take another hit but in the end what could CLE say? He brought them a Banner - something no other sports franchise there has done nor WILL do - at least for a while.

If CLE ownership can't assemble a team around LeBron then in the end I couldn't blame him for leaving once again. The narrative would be that while LeBron was WILLING to stay - he could NOT because the team choose to go in a different direction.

This would not be LeBron's fault.
Title: Re: NBA investigating Lakers for "PG13 tampering" probe. Focus on Magic Johnson
Post by: CelticsElite on August 20, 2017, 06:13:02 PM
i have seen the "lebron to LA" story a number of times. please provide the sources to this? or is it all simply whim and wishing?

why would lebron leave cleveland to go to a team that is not good right now. and even if he and a few others go there, they will not jell as a team for 1-2 years and the young players have to develop.

all of this takes time, something lebron no longer has. i do not see the logic in him joining LA. SA? yes, i can see.

There are no sources (yet) for LeBron to The Lakers.

But to me it makes sense.

Where else would LeBron go? I'm sure he loves and respects Magic AND the fact that it's Hollywood would pay HUGE dividends for LeBron I'm sure.

I'm also certain that "IF" LeBron choose LA that Magic would not rest until he assembled pieces around him to compete right away.

Magic is building it and they will most certainly come.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7SB16il97yw

Why "WOULDN'T" he want to go to LA? He'd be able to play against GSW a lot more times THEN as he would NOW.

He'd have a capable PG in place in Lonzo Ball. He has "SPECIAL" written all over him, Lonzo does.

Brandon Ingram will probably be better as well.

He'd have a capable coach in Luke Walton in place.

"IF" he leaves CLE his rep may take another hit but in the end what could CLE say? He brought them a Banner - something no other sports franchise there has done nor WILL do - at least for a while.

If CLE ownership can't assemble a team around LeBron then in the end I couldn't blame him for leaving once again. The narrative would be that while LeBron was WILLING to stay - he could NOT because the team choose to go in a different direction.

This would not be LeBron's fault.
true

Plus lebron likes to shock the world every 4 years. I believe he does it for attention. So that would qualify.


We might see the return of Lakers vs Celtics finals matchup sooner than anyone thought if it happens
Title: Re: NBA investigating Lakers for "PG13 tampering" probe. Focus on Magic Johnson
Post by: GreenFaith1819 on August 20, 2017, 06:17:24 PM
ALSO - LeBron could most certainly choose US, as well.

We are a lot further down the road to contention than LA.

But we're not HOLLYWOOD.

As much as I love Mark Wahlberg, Tom Brady and Ben Affleck they can't hold a candle to Hollywood.

Besides we've been too much of a thorn in LeBron's side for him to come to US.
Title: Re: NBA investigating Lakers for "PG13 tampering" probe. Focus on Magic Johnson
Post by: CelticsElite on August 20, 2017, 06:19:15 PM
ALSO - LeBron could most certainly choose US, as well.

We are a lot further down the road to contention than LA.

But we're not HOLLYWOOD.

As much as I love Mark Wahlberg, Tom Brady and Ben Affleck they can't hold a candle to Hollywood.

Besides we've been too much of a thorn in LeBron's side for him to come to US.
the thing is we literally don't need lebron. We are set to contend for a decade with our current structure. Doubt danny wants to let a few pieces go to make room for 2 years of lebrons prime
Title: Re: NBA investigating Lakers for "PG13 tampering" probe. Focus on Magic Johnson
Post by: Surferdad on August 20, 2017, 06:22:09 PM
http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/20398462/magic-johnson-los-angeles-lakers-being-investigated-possible-tampering-regarding-paul-george

 :D

Pacers filed tampering charges. Now the probe is underway and they might not be able to get George now

Los Angeles can be punished in several ways, including a loss of draft picks, financial fines up to $5 million, future restrictions on acquiring George and possible suspensions of offending officials.


The Lakers  cheated
Well, Magic couldn't have made it more obvious (without actually saying something illegal) that he wanted PG13 from the moment he took the job.

That said, I think he'll get off easy.  LAL is just too valuable a franchise to the league.
Title: Re: NBA investigating Lakers for "PG13 tampering" probe. Focus on Magic Johnson
Post by: GreenFaith1819 on August 20, 2017, 06:25:10 PM
ALSO - LeBron could most certainly choose US, as well.

We are a lot further down the road to contention than LA.

But we're not HOLLYWOOD.

As much as I love Mark Wahlberg, Tom Brady and Ben Affleck they can't hold a candle to Hollywood.

Besides we've been too much of a thorn in LeBron's side for him to come to US.
the thing is we literally don't need lebron. We are set to contend for a decade with our current structure. Doubt danny wants to let a few pieces go to make room for 2 years of lebrons prime

Agreed.

Besides, I'm turning my attention even moreso to The Duke Celtics (or the Boston Blue Devils). They are about to get a certain future Big that I'm loving more and more every day

(https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/RSCCIGkrOseIMrhZ2JaALkcMmxc=/0x0:2636x1438/1200x800/filters:focal(1108x509:1528x929)/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_image/image/56194257/pasted_image_at_2017_08_14_11_34_pm.1502768029.png)

Getting HIM will add to our Blue Devil crop of Jayson Tatum and will make LeBron James a bit more moot to me.

Get him ready for us, Coach K.
Title: Re: NBA investigating Lakers for "PG13 tampering" probe. Focus on Magic Johnson
Post by: ConnerHenry on August 20, 2017, 06:57:28 PM
Don't the Lakers automatically get the 2nd pick until they are contenders?  I think it's in the by-laws.

Maybe the penalty will be "No #2 for You" in 2018 (when they dont have their pick anyway).

If Stern was still commissioner, the penalty would be "No #2 for the Lakers pick in 2018, even though it has been conveyed to the Celtics."
Title: Re: NBA investigating Lakers for "PG13 tampering" probe. Focus on Magic Johnson
Post by: timpiker on August 20, 2017, 07:08:40 PM
I want the lakers and magic to rot in hell for eternity
Title: Re: NBA investigating Lakers for "PG13 tampering" probe. Focus on Magic Johnson
Post by: kraidstar on August 20, 2017, 07:19:36 PM
The firm investigating the tampering is the same one who investigated Donaghy.

I think it's safe to say the Lakers will be fine.
Title: Re: NBA investigating Lakers for "PG13 tampering" probe. Focus on Magic Johnson
Post by: droopdog7 on August 20, 2017, 07:51:27 PM
Find it interesting that the lakers say (according to the story) that there is no evidence of tampering.  Not that they didn't tamper, just that evidence does not exist.
Title: Re: NBA investigating Lakers for "PG13 tampering" probe. Focus on Magic Johnson
Post by: incoherent on August 20, 2017, 08:48:05 PM
The firm investigating the tampering is the same one who investigated Donaghy.

I think it's safe to say the Lakers will be fine.

Do you have a source on this? Im just curious.  I know the FBI investigated Donaghy and I thought they were the ones who informed the NBA originally but it's been awhile and I dont remember all the details.
Title: Re: NBA investigating Lakers for "PG13 tampering" probe. Focus on Magic Johnson
Post by: CelticsElite on August 20, 2017, 08:49:38 PM
If they can just remove the #1 protection on their 2018 pick and stop them from ever acquiring PG, I think we would agree it's  fair punishment lol.
Title: Re: NBA investigating Lakers for "PG13 tampering" probe. Focus on Magic Johnson
Post by: Bobshot on August 20, 2017, 09:51:38 PM
This sounds pretty serious--to get to this point. Could be Magic's inexperience as GM caused him to do things that were not allowed as a GM. We'll see how it plays out.

I'm surprised the Lakers would go to those extremes. Usually, the West Coast media acts as a message conveyor for LA. NY media does the same for the local teams. The media in those towns tend to be supportive of their teams. Not always the case in Boston.
Title: Re: NBA investigating Lakers for "PG13 tampering" probe. Focus on Magic Johnson
Post by: BitterJim on August 20, 2017, 10:25:26 PM
If they can just remove the #1 protection on their 2018 pick and stop them from ever acquiring PG, I think we would agree it's  fair punishment lol.

They didn't put the protection on, the 76ers did. LA loses the pick no matter what
Title: Re: NBA investigating Lakers for "PG13 tampering" probe. Focus on Magic Johnson
Post by: hwangjini_1 on August 20, 2017, 10:26:26 PM
ALSO - LeBron could most certainly choose US, as well.

We are a lot further down the road to contention than LA.

But we're not HOLLYWOOD.

As much as I love Mark Wahlberg, Tom Brady and Ben Affleck they can't hold a candle to Hollywood.

Besides we've been too much of a thorn in LeBron's side for him to come to US.
so many folks quote LA and hollywood and glitter as being a key and deciding factor in players choices.

dwight howard did not care. haywood did not care either. how many big name free agents have the lakers landed in the past few years?

i just dont see the appeal for lebron, who must feel some urgency as he sees father time catching up with him soon.
Title: Re: NBA investigating Lakers for "PG13 tampering" probe. Focus on Magic Johnson
Post by: CelticsElite on August 20, 2017, 10:38:14 PM
ALSO - LeBron could most certainly choose US, as well.

We are a lot further down the road to contention than LA.

But we're not HOLLYWOOD.

As much as I love Mark Wahlberg, Tom Brady and Ben Affleck they can't hold a candle to Hollywood.

Besides we've been too much of a thorn in LeBron's side for him to come to US.
so many folks quote LA and hollywood and glitter as being a key and deciding factor in players choices.

dwight howard did not care. haywood did not care either. how many big name free agents have the lakers landed in the past few years?

i just dont see the appeal for lebron, who must feel some urgency as he sees father time catching up with him soon.
i agree that it's hard to see lebron join the 3rd worst team. Even if there's pending deals awaiting, I don't see who the lakers can get. They would have to get cp3 and wade in free agency and even that isn't a remotely scary team. Even if melo joins in
Title: Re: NBA investigating Lakers for "PG13 tampering" probe. Focus on Magic Johnson
Post by: Onslaught on August 21, 2017, 04:50:46 AM
ALSO - LeBron could most certainly choose US, as well.

We are a lot further down the road to contention than LA.

But we're not HOLLYWOOD.

As much as I love Mark Wahlberg, Tom Brady and Ben Affleck they can't hold a candle to Hollywood.

Besides we've been too much of a thorn in LeBron's side for him to come to US.
so many folks quote LA and hollywood and glitter as being a key and deciding factor in players choices.

dwight howard did not care. haywood did not care either. how many big name free agents have the lakers landed in the past few years?

i just dont see the appeal for lebron, who must feel some urgency as he sees father time catching up with him soon.

I'm not sure using Dwight Howard as a example of logic is a good choice. The guy is off his rocker.
Title: Re: NBA investigating Lakers for "PG13 tampering" probe. Focus on Magic Johnson
Post by: greece66 on August 21, 2017, 05:43:37 AM
ALSO - LeBron could most certainly choose US, as well.

We are a lot further down the road to contention than LA.

But we're not HOLLYWOOD.

As much as I love Mark Wahlberg, Tom Brady and Ben Affleck they can't hold a candle to Hollywood.

Besides we've been too much of a thorn in LeBron's side for him to come to US.
so many folks quote LA and hollywood and glitter as being a key and deciding factor in players choices.

dwight howard did not care. haywood did not care either. how many big name free agents have the lakers landed in the past few years?

i just dont see the appeal for lebron, who must feel some urgency as he sees father time catching up with him soon.

I'm not sure using Dwight Howard as a example of logic is a good choice. The guy is off his rocker.

Howard was used as an example of a player who left LAL.
Title: Re: NBA investigating Lakers for "PG13 tampering" probe. Focus on Magic Johnson
Post by: moiso on August 21, 2017, 06:12:55 AM
ALSO - LeBron could most certainly choose US, as well.

We are a lot further down the road to contention than LA.

But we're not HOLLYWOOD.

As much as I love Mark Wahlberg, Tom Brady and Ben Affleck they can't hold a candle to Hollywood.

Besides we've been too much of a thorn in LeBron's side for him to come to US.
so many folks quote LA and hollywood and glitter as being a key and deciding factor in players choices.

dwight howard did not care. haywood did not care either. how many big name free agents have the lakers landed in the past few years?

i just dont see the appeal for lebron, who must feel some urgency as he sees father time catching up with him soon.

I'm not sure using Dwight Howard as a example of logic is a good choice. The guy is off his rocker.
I think he did care about the glamour of LA initially.  But he burned too many bridges like he always does and had to get out of there.
Title: Re: NBA investigating Lakers for "PG13 tampering" probe. Focus on Magic Johnson
Post by: Moranis on August 21, 2017, 11:50:03 AM
i have seen the "lebron to LA" story a number of times. please provide the sources to this? or is it all simply whim and wishing?

why would lebron leave cleveland to go to a team that is not good right now. and even if he and a few others go there, they will not jell as a team for 1-2 years and the young players have to develop.

all of this takes time, something lebron no longer has. i do not see the logic in him joining LA. SA? yes, i can see.

There are no sources (yet) for LeBron to The Lakers.

But to me it makes sense.

Where else would LeBron go? I'm sure he loves and respects Magic AND the fact that it's Hollywood would pay HUGE dividends for LeBron I'm sure.

I'm also certain that "IF" LeBron choose LA that Magic would not rest until he assembled pieces around him to compete right away.

Magic is building it and they will most certainly come.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7SB16il97yw

Why "WOULDN'T" he want to go to LA? He'd be able to play against GSW a lot more times THEN as he would NOW.

He'd have a capable PG in place in Lonzo Ball. He has "SPECIAL" written all over him, Lonzo does.

Brandon Ingram will probably be better as well.

He'd have a capable coach in Luke Walton in place.

"IF" he leaves CLE his rep may take another hit but in the end what could CLE say? He brought them a Banner - something no other sports franchise there has done nor WILL do - at least for a while.

If CLE ownership can't assemble a team around LeBron then in the end I couldn't blame him for leaving once again. The narrative would be that while LeBron was WILLING to stay - he could NOT because the team choose to go in a different direction.

This would not be LeBron's fault.
Lebron is not going to leave the Cavs and go to a team that wouldn't even have a realistic chance of making the Finals.  Now if the Lakers landed George, Westbrook, and James that would be a real possibility for him, but he isn't going to leave only to end up losing in the conference semis or conference finals at best.

And there are plenty of viable options for James.  Philadelphia, Boston, San Antonio, back to Miami, LAC, staying in Cleveland, etc.  James will play for whatever team that can pay him the max and will provide him the best shot a championship.  That could be the Lakers if they can land two other stars or it could be somewhere else.
Title: Re: NBA investigating Lakers for "PG13 tampering" probe. Focus on Magic Johnson
Post by: Vermont Green on August 21, 2017, 12:39:33 PM
ALSO - LeBron could most certainly choose US, as well.

We are a lot further down the road to contention than LA.

But we're not HOLLYWOOD.

As much as I love Mark Wahlberg, Tom Brady and Ben Affleck they can't hold a candle to Hollywood.

Besides we've been too much of a thorn in LeBron's side for him to come to US.
so many folks quote LA and hollywood and glitter as being a key and deciding factor in players choices.

dwight howard did not care. haywood did not care either. how many big name free agents have the lakers landed in the past few years?

i just dont see the appeal for lebron, who must feel some urgency as he sees father time catching up with him soon.

LaMarcus Aldridge is another good example.  As I remember the reporting, the Lakers tried to sell him on the whole LA scene but he was more interested in hearing about the basketball aspects of it.  Imaging that.

I don't think it is still the case that Miami and LA have a big advantages due to lifestyle.   

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The Lakers' presentation reportedly focused too much on "outside opportunities" and not enough on basketball, according to Adrian Wojnarwoski of Yahoo! Sports.
Title: Re: NBA investigating Lakers for "PG13 tampering" probe. Focus on Magic Johnson
Post by: CelticsElite on August 31, 2017, 01:21:43 PM
http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/20520132/los-angeles-lakers-fined-500000-tampering-nba

fined