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Title: 2017-18 EPL Season
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on August 08, 2017, 10:09:01 AM
No one has started the thread, so I'll start it early.

Season kicks off Friday with Arsenal v Leicester.

While we wait, we can discuss things about the EPL here. Any predictions? Who's your top 4? Who do you think will be relegated? Sleeper mid table squads that can make the top 4? Do you think there's a small club out there that can pull a Leicester, or who's close? Overrated/Underrated buys so far? Stories you're looking forward to see?

The season is upon us. Let's do this.

Oh, and #COYG!
Title: Re: 2017-18 EPL Season
Post by: Somebody on August 08, 2017, 10:15:51 AM
My prediction for the top 4 is:
1. Manchester United 8) (gotta home)
2. Arsenal
3. Manchester City
4. Tottenham Hotspur
I don't think we'll see any more Leicester teams, it'll be the big 6 and Everton occupying the top 7 spots. For overrated buys I think City's Mendy and Chelsea's Bakayoko are a tad bit overhyped, they would need time to adjust and may not be able to justify that 50 plus million price tag. For underrated buys, Arsenal's Lacazette and United's Lindelof come to mind. I'm only thinking about the big clubs so if there are any small club fans sorry (although I love the Blackburn Rovers as well lol :laugh:).
On the other hand, wow it's my 900th post! Thanks to everyone for making me feel at home here, it's a wonderful community and I hope I can continue chatting with you for a long time.
Also, we'll spank Real's ass well tonight.
Title: Re: 2017-18 EPL Season
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on August 08, 2017, 11:24:38 AM
First off, TP


On the other hand, wow it's my 900th post! Thanks to everyone for making me feel at home here, it's a wonderful community and I hope I can continue chatting with you for a long time.

Predictions (as of today of course, the transfer window is still open)

1. Man City: Just too good, and if that defence holds up with the buys that they did, I see no reason for them losing. Superb attacking, and they added Bernardo Silva. This is their season to lose.

2. Man United: I really don't think a Lindelof - Smalling -Blind back three is going to do well, but they have quite possibly the best cover in a Matic - Pogba - Pereira front. That is an insane midfield as far as defence, size, quality and skill. Adding Lukaku to the mix makes them and even scarier threat. Might miss the title by 2-3 points.

3. Chelsea - The injuries to Bakayoko and Hazard might knock a few points off them at the start of the season, and that could be vital. I really don't trust Azpelicueta and David Luis as CB's, not anymore. But once they start becoming fit, they'll roll out again as they did last year.

4.  Arsenal - Yep, I'm putting us here. Kolasinac seems like a great bargain to get for FREE. What a tank. Lacazette will score. No Champions League schedule, which means we can sit the key guys while playing the rest of the squad for Europa. This could be the first full season we for a back three, which has worked well at the tail end of last year. Easy to see us in 4th place, our usual spot.

Can't see enough from Liverpool to make it past the 4th place. They added Mohamed Salah and Solanke, but their defence is still shady as hell, and Klopp says he'll roll with it. Tottenham, thank God, are being weird. Have not brought in anyone, and sold one of, if not the best Right Back in the league. New stadium, Champions League, and the rest of the top teams improve, it's easy to see them fall out of the top 4.

I know Everton is the one being poised as the next mid table team to threaten the top squads, but I gotta go with West Ham. Marko Arnautovic and Javier Hernandez are GREAT buys IMO, and will help them in the goal scoring problems. They got Pablo Zabaleta and Joe Hart on a free and on loan respectively, great veteran players who can organize the team.

Underrated buys for me are.

Nemanja Matic - Man United:
- Excellent buy, just excellent. Will be a great partner for Paul Pogba.

Sead Kolasinac - Arsenal:
- I don't think we can even call him a buy, as he cam in on a free, but he's already proving his worth. Beastly on the pitch.

Jermain Defoe - Bournemouth:
- Defoe won't be enough to give Bournemouth a boost to the top 4, but they could easily contend for a Europa spot if he starts scoring goals for this team that plays organized and beautiful football.

Chicharito - West Ham:
- I really believe this. Dude is a scorer, he's going to score, and for £16 million, that's is a bargain for West Ham,

Pascal Gross - Brighton;
- Brighton might come back to the Championship after this year, but they got a hell of a player in Pascal Gross. I've read and heard a lot about him in many forms of media, and he's actually one of the best IN ALL OF EUROPE in creating chances.

Overrated buys;

I just got one, Alvaro Morata.

I don't see him as a £75 million player. He didn't score in bunches in Juventus, and had a good stint in Real Madrid, but not close to being the player for his price tag. I just think he's still an unproven commodity, but he costs like a world class player.

I'm excited!
Title: Re: 2017-18 EPL Season
Post by: Who on August 08, 2017, 03:12:18 PM
A couple of fun categories.

Best forwards
Best center midfield
Best center defenders
Best GK

Give a top 3 selection or rank the top 6 clubs

Best Forwards

(1) Liverpool - Firmino, Salah, Sane
(2) Man City - Gabriel Jesus, Aguero, Sane (or Sterling)
(3 tie) Arsenal - Alexis Sanchez, Lacazette, Ozil
(3 tie) Chelsea - Hazard, Morata, Pedro
(5) Tottenham - Kane, Son, Alli
(6) Man United - Lukaku, Martial, Mata

I love Liverpool's frontline. It is absolutely nasty. So much pace. Terrific defensive group pressuring defenders into mistakes. I loved Salah at Roma. I doubted him at Chelsea but Salah has been become much better since then. Much improved when he gets used higher up the pitch and closer to the penalty box than as an orthodox winger. I think he is a €65-75 million player. Absolute bargain for Liverpool. Got him for half price. I am a big fan of Sturridge too even though he is not in my main 3 forwards for Liverpool. Gives them the option of playing with a true #9 who can be a point of reference for them when they need one.

Diego Costa is a huge loss for Chelsea. Best #9 in England. Better than Aguero. I don't think Morata or Batshuayi will be able to replace him. Good players in their own right but Costa was special. To be that good on the ball and in the build play, to create his own chances, to give a physical presence and stretch the pitch. All-round menace.

Gabriel Jesus looked awesome in the short stretch of games he played last season before getting hurt. City needed a 2nd goal-scoring threat next to Aguero and Jesus looks the man for the job. Moves City to top tier attacking side.

Best center midfield

(1) Man Utd - Matic, Herrera, Pogba
(2) Tottenham - Wanyama, Dembele, Eriksen
(3) Liverpool - Coutinho, Henderson, Lallana

I love the balance of a three man midfield for Man Utd. With Matic as the holder and Herrera and Pogba as roamers (box to box CMs) ahead of him. Great balance defensively, physicality, passing wise, creativity and some goals.

I hope to see United move to a diamond and put Mhkitaryan at the top of the diamond. Then play Martial or Rashford alongside Lukaku. That would be a phenomenal midfield 4. I do not understand why Mourinho did not do so more last year.

Dembele has been one of the finest CMs in the league over the last 2-3 years. Eriksen is an absolute diamond as an attacking mid. One of my favourite players to watch. So much class on the ball, passing and creativity. Big goal-scorer too. Plus there is Dele Alli. Wanyama is strong defensively but needs to do more on the ball.

I dropped Man City because I do not like their defensive balance. Lots of quality attacking mids (De Bruyne, D.Silva, B.Silva) but dodgy defensive mids (Fernandinho is really a box-to-box midfielder) and center mids (Yaya is old, Gundogan is class but injured most of the time).

I dropped Chelsea because I think CM is a weak part of their team. Kante is a top defensive midfielder. Fabregas is good attacking but no longer a top player because he is not mobile enough without the ball. Bakayoko is useful but unexceptional. A downgrade from Matic.

That leaves Arsenal and Liverpool.

I am a huge Santi Cazorla fan. Best CM in the PL since Modric left in my opinion. But his injury situation and Arsenal's lack of viable replacement has soured me a bit on their midfield. Big fan of Aaron Ramsey. One of the finest box-to-box midfielders in Europe. Great goal-scorer and all-rounder. I am fond of Xhaka as well. Lovely range of passing from base of midfield. Ozil is a through ball artist as attacking mid. I do not like the balance of the 3 though. Arsenal switched to that 3-4-2-1 to try and keep them on the pitch together. That looks to be working because they looked dodgy as a three man 4-2-3-1 CM. Cazorla is the one that makes that team tick. That gives balance to everything. Arsenal miss him desperately.

Liverpool did much better in midfield than I expected last year. Coutinho is one of the best attacking midfielders in the world. Brilliant ball-control, dribbling and creative passing. Henderson did a much better job than I had expected at the base of the midfield and Klopp still found a way to give him some freedom to move forward. Largely thanks to Wijnaldum who gave the team great balance. Lallana was a revelation as a CM last year too. Moved further back the pitch to great effect. Best English player in PL last season? Probably.

(4) Man City - Yaya, De Bruyne, D.Silva or B.Silva
(5) Arsenal - Xhaka, Ramsey, Elneny (and injured Cazorla)
(6) Chelsea - Kante, Bakayoko, Fabregas

Best central defenders

(1) Tottenham - Vertonghen, Alderweirld, Dier - best backline in PL
(2) Chelsea - David Luiz, Gahill, Azpilicueta

I think the top two have separated themselves from the rest of the pack. Only two top defensive teams in the league.

Chelsea had a great backup defensive 3 too with Zouma, Christensen and Rudiger. Annoyed and irritated at Zouma being put out on loan. Now it sounds like they are buying another DC to replace Zouma. Why? Zouma was awesome. I hope we get to see Christensen at least - he sounds like one heck of a talent.

(3) Man City - Kompany, Stones, Otamendi 
(4) Man Utd - Bailly, Smalling, Lindelof (or P.Jones, Rojo)
(5) Arsenal - Koscielny, Holding, Mustafi (or Monreal)
(6) Liverpool - Matip, Lovren, Klavan

I wonder what happens to Sahko at Liverpool. Does he get another chance? He could be a major asset for Liverpool if Klopp can bring him back into the fold. Liverpool too reliant on Matip and are lightweight elsewhere at CB.

Arsenal and Man Utd have good depth and options at CB. I was surprised how good Man City were I sat down and remembered about Otamendi and Stones. All you hear about is Kompany with that team. I think those two (Stones, Otamendi) do not get a fair shake. Man City more talented CBs than Man Utd. United just give their CBs more protection in midfield. City more exposed. The talent is there though. At the back. It is the midfield that isn't working right.

Best GK

(1) Man Utd - De Gea - best GK in the world for me. Ahead of Neuer. Has everything.
(2) Tottenham - Lloris - sweeper keeper extraordinaire
(3) Chelsea - Courtois - top defensive keeper

(4) Arsenal - Cech - no longer world class. Still very good though.
(5) Man City - Ederson - needs to prove himself. I am looking forward to seeing more of Ederson. Heard so much about his long goal kicks. I am excited to see that.
(6) Liverpool - Mingolet, Karius - no established #1. Either one not up to par with other teams. I do really like Karius as a prospect though (defensive keeper like Courtois).

Best full backs / wing backs

(1) Man City - Mendy, Danilo (or K.Walker)
(2) Arsenal - Bellerin, Kolasinac
(3) Tottenham - Trippier, Rose
(4) Chelsea - Alonso, Moses
(5) Man Utd - Valencia, Shaw
(6) Liverpool - Clyne, Milner

Man City tower over the rest. Mendy is the only world class full back / wing back in the premier league. One of the top 3 LBs in the world alongside Marcelo and Alex Sandro. I rate Danilo over Kyle Walker - better skills on the ball. Both are highly talented. Incredible talent in their 3 full backs. Give City a much improved balance between attack and defense this season.

Tough choices between the rest of them. I saw Tottenham and Arsenal as close for the next two slots. Then Chelsea vs United. With Liverpool at the bottom of the table. I gave Arsenal the nod over Tottenham because I love Bellerin and I am buying on Kolasinac. Trippier and Rose are very good well-rounded full backs for Tottenham though. Liverpool and United both have talented right backs but question marks at LB.
Title: Re: 2017-18 EPL Season
Post by: Rondo2287 on August 08, 2017, 03:19:27 PM
Tottenham finished 2nd two years in a row.  Hoping they come out and win the league this year.  The continued maturation of Eriksen, Alli, Kane could do it. 

They were hit by the injury bug last year losing Lamela, Kane, Rose, Lloris, Alderwereild, Dembele for big chunks of the season.  Really amazing they finished second all things considered.

If they are able to stay healthy this year I think they have the best starting 11 in the league. 
Title: Re: 2017-18 EPL Season
Post by: Rondo2287 on August 08, 2017, 03:23:33 PM
Yoki,
I don't know how you can have spurs outside of top 4.  Shame on you
Title: Re: 2017-18 EPL Season
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on August 08, 2017, 05:30:42 PM
Yoki,
I don't know how you can have spurs outside of top 4.  Shame on you

Sorry, R2287, but I promise you this isn't just an Arsenal fan being bitter.

Every body from the top 5 teams, including Everton, has made improvements in the transfer window, you guys not only have not brought anyone in, but sold one of your best players, on a top 4 team no less.

I understand you guys still have Harry Kane, Dele Alli and Christian Eriksen, but will that be enough vs all the top squads who had major improvements? Your Kyle Walker replacement in Keiran Trippier is hurt too.

You guys are also playing in Wembley, taking away the White Hart Lane advantage. And with no new names being brought in, you're going to have the same guys competing for the PL and the Champions League, that could burn out your best players.

As of right now, I don't see it. The window is still open, plenty of time to get a RB replacement, although I have no idea who will that be or where it will come from, but as it stands, I don't see you guys making the top 4.
Title: Re: 2017-18 EPL Season
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on August 08, 2017, 05:32:53 PM
A couple of fun categories.

Best forwards
Best center midfield
Best center defenders
Best GK

Give a top 3 selection or rank the top 6 clubs

Best Forwards

(1) Liverpool - Firmino, Salah, Sane


That's a ridiculously fast front line. Defenders are going to be in a world of trouble on those guys.
Title: Re: 2017-18 EPL Season
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on August 08, 2017, 05:42:47 PM
Glad that Who is online.

I value your football insights, and what you wrote is a fantastic season preview to read. TP.

I want to ask you, and to everyone else too for that matter, which mid-table team do you think could make the most noise this year? Will there be one?
Title: Re: 2017-18 EPL Season
Post by: Who on August 08, 2017, 06:45:17 PM
Glad that Who is online.

I value your football insights, and what you wrote is a fantastic season preview to read. TP.

I want to ask you, and to everyone else too for that matter, which mid-table team do you think could make the most noise this year? Will there be one?

I don't see anyone threatening the top 6 and Everton. All those clubs look far too talented to be caught by the rest of the pack.

I liked what Leicester did getting Iheanacho, Iborra and Harry Maguire. Strengthened the spine of the team. Iheanacho should work well playing behind Jamie Vardy. Iborra strengthens that center midfield. Maguire at CB. They have managed to keep Mahrez too which is huge for them. I'd like to see more upgrades defensively to threaten the top 6 though.

I am lukewarm about West Ham. I feel like half their midfield is built to play counter attacking football and half their midfield is built to play possession football. Things do not fit smoothly. And I am unconvinced by their manager Bilic. They did do some good work getting Chicarito, Hart and Arnautovic but I see them more fighting for the 8th-12th places than higher up the table.

I am interested to see what Marco Silva can do at Watford. Not to threaten the top 6 but maybe a surprise team to make the top 10. He did a great job with Hull last season and they have made some nice signings (Chalobah, Will Hughes, Richarlison).

Crystal Palace were a team I thought could threaten the top 6. I thought they had a great basis for a counter attacking team with Townsend, Zaha and Benteke. Cabaye and Puncheon in midfield. Milivojevic as holder in midfield. Add some defenders and another CM and I thought that team could have made a strong run at it. Disappointed in their summer so far though. Not convinced by De Boer either. So I have them outside the top 10.

Mark Hughes looks set to be sacked at Stoke. Do not know what is going on there. Also outside the top 10.

I didn't like the signing of Defoe for Bournemouth. Too much money for a 34 year old striker reliant on his pace. Still they should at least get 1 good year out of him. Ake and Begovic should help them. Both now and long term. I liked those defensive moves.

Southampton look set to have a good season. A lot of good things being said about their new manager. They have a good and deep squad. They should be in the top 10.
Title: Re: 2017-18 EPL Season
Post by: Sixth Man on August 08, 2017, 07:10:23 PM

I know Everton is the one being poised as the next mid table team to threaten the top squads, but I gotta go with West Ham. Marko Arnautovic and Javier Hernandez are GREAT buys IMO, and will help them in the goal scoring problems. They got Pablo Zabaleta and Joe Hart on a free and on loan respectively, great veteran players who can organize the team.

Yoki, my friend, I think you're referencing the Hammers here, not the Toffees. 
Title: Re: 2017-18 EPL Season
Post by: Sixth Man on August 08, 2017, 07:17:26 PM
First off, TP


On the other hand, wow it's my 900th post! Thanks to everyone for making me feel at home here, it's a wonderful community and I hope I can continue chatting with you for a long time.

Predictions (as of today of course, the transfer window is still open)

1. Man City: Just too good, and if that defence holds up with the buys that they did, I see no reason for them losing. Superb attacking, and they added Bernardo Silva. This is their season to lose.

I'd love to agree with you on this, Yoki, but I'm concerned that Pep is going to war with a threadbare squad - two strikers, three holding/box-to-box mids, three CBs and three FBs.  Given the age and injury history of some of these players, he's taking huge risks by not providing adequate cover at these posiitions.  Will Kompany and Gundogan remain healthy?  All our top young players are going out on season-long loans, so he won't get any relief there, either. 
Title: Re: 2017-18 EPL Season
Post by: Sixth Man on August 08, 2017, 07:20:50 PM
Glad that Who is online.

I value your football insights, and what you wrote is a fantastic season preview to read. TP.

I want to ask you, and to everyone else too for that matter, which mid-table team do you think could make the most noise this year? Will there be one?

I don't see anyone threatening the top 6 and Everton. All those clubs look far too talented to be caught by the rest of the pack.

I liked what Leicester did getting Iheanacho, Iborra and Harry Maguire. Strengthened the spine of the team. Iheanacho should work well playing behind Jamie Vardy. Iborra strengthens that center midfield. Maguire at CB. They have managed to keep Mahrez too which is huge for them. I'd like to see more upgrades defensively to threaten the top 6 though.

I too liked the Foxes' offseason activity.  They may be a top 7 or 8 side, but as you noted, some defensive reinforcement would be most useful. 
Title: Re: 2017-18 EPL Season
Post by: Sixth Man on August 08, 2017, 07:25:35 PM
No one has started the thread, so I'll start it early.

Season kicks off Friday with Arsenal v Leicester.

While we wait, we can discuss things about the EPL here. Any predictions? Who's your top 4? Who do you think will be relegated? Sleeper mid table squads that can make the top 4? Do you think there's a small club out there that can pull a Leicester, or who's close? Overrated/Underrated buys so far? Stories you're looking forward to see?

The season is upon us. Let's do this.

Oh, and #COYG!

TP for starting the thread, Yoki.  Big season upcoming for Arsenal and Wenger.  I think the Gunners can absolutely make a strong case for the top three, as there is more solidity in the spine of the squad and Lacazette should flourish in attack, a true #1 striker, at last!  I also believe Granit Xhaka will be a huge success in this, his second season in England. 
Title: Re: 2017-18 EPL Season
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on August 08, 2017, 08:18:00 PM
And just like that, Liverpool sold Phillippe Coutinho

http://www.espnfc.com/soccer-transfers/story/3174603/liverpool-reach-agreement-to-sell-philippe-coutinho-to-barcelona-sources?sf104505681=1
Title: Re: 2017-18 EPL Season
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on August 08, 2017, 08:28:16 PM

I know Everton is the one being poised as the next mid table team to threaten the top squads, but I gotta go with West Ham. Marko Arnautovic and Javier Hernandez are GREAT buys IMO, and will help them in the goal scoring problems. They got Pablo Zabaleta and Joe Hart on a free and on loan respectively, great veteran players who can organize the team.

Yoki, my friend, I think you're referencing the Hammers here, not the Toffees.

Yep. The Hammers.

I like their Joe Hart and Pablo Zabaleta pick ups.

I hate Marko Arnautovic to the teeth, such a dirty player, but a really good one. Chicharito is a finisher. Add that with Lanzini, Feghouli and Antonio and you have a solid attack.

Jose Fonte and Winston Reid arent world class defenders, but these guys are solid, experienced PL Centre Backs, they will be good.

I mentioned Everton because from all ive been reading and hearing, they could be the squad that could threaten a top fpur finish based on the players the bought. But I think West Ham, the Hammer, has a better shot of doing it.
Title: Re: 2017-18 EPL Season
Post by: Who on August 08, 2017, 08:33:27 PM
And just like that, Liverpool sold Phillippe Coutinho

http://www.espnfc.com/soccer-transfers/story/3174603/liverpool-reach-agreement-to-sell-philippe-coutinho-to-barcelona-sources?sf104505681=1

I love the addition of Coutinho on that Barcelona team. I think they needed someone like him who can link the play together rather than another dribbler / goal-scorer up front. Get back to the way they played before the MSN came together. More build up play through midfield.

Big loss for Liverpool. Their midfield was already light on bodies. Need to get someone in before the transfer deadline. Otherwise their hopes of a top 4 spot could be gone.
Title: Re: 2017-18 EPL Season
Post by: Somebody on August 09, 2017, 02:27:01 AM

2. Man United: I really don't think a Lindelof - Smalling -Blind back three is going to do well, but they have quite possibly the best cover in a Matic - Pogba - Pereira front. That is an insane midfield as far as defence, size, quality and skill. Adding Lukaku to the mix makes them and even scarier threat. Might miss the title by 2-3 points.

Tbh we're only playing with that back 3 because Rojo is injured while Jones and Bailly are suspended (on the other hand, Bailly is one of the top CBs in the PL rn imo). We'll likely roll with a back 4 of Valencia at RB, Lindelof as the RCB, Bailly as the LCB and Aurier/Darmian as the LB (hope we can clear Aurier's work permit fast, we need to guy like him). So yeah imo we're really steady on defense and we're quite the menace on offense with the addition of Lukaku and Ibra set to return in after the summer (dude is an absolute beast, he's returning already). We still need Jose to play Martial though... :-[
Title: Re: 2017-18 EPL Season
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on August 09, 2017, 04:45:58 PM

2. Man United: I really don't think a Lindelof - Smalling -Blind back three is going to do well, but they have quite possibly the best cover in a Matic - Pogba - Pereira front. That is an insane midfield as far as defence, size, quality and skill. Adding Lukaku to the mix makes them and even scarier threat. Might miss the title by 2-3 points.

Tbh we're only playing with that back 3 because Rojo is injured while Jones and Bailly are suspended (on the other hand, Bailly is one of the top CBs in the PL rn imo). We'll likely roll with a back 4 of Valencia at RB, Lindelof as the RCB, Bailly as the LCB and Aurier/Darmian as the LB (hope we can clear Aurier's work permit fast, we need to guy like him). So yeah imo we're really steady on defense and we're quite the menace on offense with the addition of Lukaku and Ibra set to return in after the summer (dude is an absolute beast, he's returning already). We still need Jose to play Martial though... :-[

I think Anthony Martial should ask to go on loan, preferably staying at the PL. Where is he going to play in that front line?
Title: Re: 2017-18 EPL Season
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on August 09, 2017, 04:47:17 PM
The ESPN report may have been pre-mature.

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BREAKING NEWS

Sky sources understand Liverpool have rejected Barcelona’s second bid for Philippe Coutinho.

We understand Barca’s latest offer was €85m (£77m) up front plus €15m (£13m) in add-ons and it was immediately turned down.

Liverpool have reiterated their stance that Coutinho is not for sale and they now consider the matter closed.

http://www.skysports.com/transfer-centre

Back to the drawing board for Barcelona. And good for Liverpool for holding firm.
Title: Re: 2017-18 EPL Season
Post by: Somebody on August 10, 2017, 02:20:28 AM

2. Man United: I really don't think a Lindelof - Smalling -Blind back three is going to do well, but they have quite possibly the best cover in a Matic - Pogba - Pereira front. That is an insane midfield as far as defence, size, quality and skill. Adding Lukaku to the mix makes them and even scarier threat. Might miss the title by 2-3 points.

Tbh we're only playing with that back 3 because Rojo is injured while Jones and Bailly are suspended (on the other hand, Bailly is one of the top CBs in the PL rn imo). We'll likely roll with a back 4 of Valencia at RB, Lindelof as the RCB, Bailly as the LCB and Aurier/Darmian as the LB (hope we can clear Aurier's work permit fast, we need to guy like him). So yeah imo we're really steady on defense and we're quite the menace on offense with the addition of Lukaku and Ibra set to return in after the summer (dude is an absolute beast, he's returning already). We still need Jose to play Martial though... :-[

I think Anthony Martial should ask to go on loan, preferably staying at the PL. Where is he going to play in that front line?
...before he goes on loan Rashford and Lingard need to be sold, he's the best u-22 attacker United has. Imo he'll find his spot at LW as an indispensable attacker at United later on in the season.
Title: Re: 2017-18 EPL Season
Post by: Somebody on August 10, 2017, 02:21:55 AM
The ESPN report may have been pre-mature.

Quote
BREAKING NEWS

Sky sources understand Liverpool have rejected Barcelona’s second bid for Philippe Coutinho.

We understand Barca’s latest offer was €85m (£77m) up front plus €15m (£13m) in add-ons and it was immediately turned down.

Liverpool have reiterated their stance that Coutinho is not for sale and they now consider the matter closed.

http://www.skysports.com/transfer-centre

Back to the drawing board for Barcelona. And good for Liverpool for holding firm.
There's no alternative for the Catalans, they need to buy Countinho to keep their team intact. Would cost them 110 million euros imo with add ons at the end.
Title: Re: 2017-18 EPL Season
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on August 11, 2017, 11:16:25 AM
http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/40897688

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Liverpool midfielder Philippe Coutinho has submitted a transfer request, hours after the Premier League club released a statement saying he is not for sale.

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In a statement on Friday, the club's owners said its "definitive stance" was that "no offers will be considered".

Now it gets interesting...

Title: Re: 2017-18 EPL Season
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on August 11, 2017, 02:49:09 PM
ALEXANDRE LACAZETTE!

2 minutes in his PL debut, he scores! Hey now!
Title: Re: 2017-18 EPL Season
Post by: Somebody on August 12, 2017, 12:16:16 AM
Congratulations to Arsenal winning their first game of the season and finally being at the top of the table! ;) Also all hail Giroud https://youtu.be/ia8omvH4ccA 8).
Title: Re: 2017-18 EPL Season
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on August 12, 2017, 11:36:44 AM
This opening games are nuts!

Liverpool dropped points last minute, Chelsea down 3-1 as we speak with Gary Cahill being straight red-ed (how many games does he get for a straight red?).

Huddersfield winning. This is fun.

Congratulations to Arsenal winning their first game of the season and finally being at the top of the table! ;) Also all hail Giroud https://youtu.be/ia8omvH4ccA 8).

A lot of fans hate him for not being an in and out 20+ goal scorer, but Jesus, did he saved us so many times.

(http://i.imgur.com/rabKjEB.gif)

Title: Re: 2017-18 EPL Season
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on August 12, 2017, 11:42:32 AM
And Cesc Fabregas got two yellows. Chelsea down to 9 men.

Good Lord, what a start to your title defense, eh?
Title: Re: 2017-18 EPL Season
Post by: Somebody on August 12, 2017, 12:02:07 PM
This opening games are nuts!

Liverpool dropped points last minute, Chelsea down 3-1 as we speak with Gary Cahill being straight red-ed (how many games does he get for a straight red?).

Huddersfield winning. This is fun.

Congratulations to Arsenal winning their first game of the season and finally being at the top of the table! ;) Also all hail Giroud https://youtu.be/ia8omvH4ccA 8).

A lot of fans hate him for not being an in and out 20+ goal scorer, but Jesus, did he saved us so many times.

(http://i.imgur.com/rabKjEB.gif)
I actually really like Giroud, he's now the perfect backup to Lacazette. Cahill will be suspended for 3 games, so imo we'll be seeing our old friend Gus Hiddink soon 8). Also, my predictions look true now, eh? ;) (fun joke: if Arsenal buy Mahrez, their attack will be L M A O, which stands for Lacazette, Mahrez, Alexis and Ozil)
Title: Re: 2017-18 EPL Season
Post by: Somebody on August 12, 2017, 12:02:46 PM
And Cesc Fabregas got two yellows. Chelsea down to 9 men.

Good Lord, what a start to your title defense, eh?
Defense? Do they even have defense? 8)
Title: Re: 2017-18 EPL Season
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on August 12, 2017, 12:07:50 PM
And Cesc Fabregas got two yellows. Chelsea down to 9 men.

Good Lord, what a start to your title defense, eh?
Defense? Do they even have defense? 8)

I won't go there just yet, two of their 3 goals were really tough goals. The 2nd one, yep, that was a lapse on the defence.
Title: Re: 2017-18 EPL Season
Post by: Somebody on August 12, 2017, 11:41:30 PM
And Cesc Fabregas got two yellows. Chelsea down to 9 men.

Good Lord, what a start to your title defense, eh?
Defense? Do they even have defense? 8)

I won't go there just yet, two of their 3 goals were really tough goals. The 2nd one, yep, that was a lapse on the defence.
Well obviously they are still a good team, but with Cahill out for a few games what I'm hoping for is a horrible start for Chelsea, after all I want to see my old friend Gus Hiddink again 8).
Title: Re: 2017-18 EPL Season
Post by: Somebody on August 13, 2017, 10:08:45 AM
Tottenham and the 2nd tier Manchester team overtaking Arsenal at the top of the table :laugh:
Title: Re: 2017-18 EPL Season
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on August 13, 2017, 11:55:01 AM
Tottenham and the 2nd tier Manchester team overtaking Arsenal at the top of the table :laugh:

And we are all below Huddersfield.

We need to recognize.

Beautiful counter attack by United by the way. Matic superb in breaking thru West Ham's link up, Rashford with the beauty of a through ball and Lukaku with the finish.

Matic is going to be the best buy of the PL, I really think so...
Title: Re: 2017-18 EPL Season
Post by: Who on August 13, 2017, 12:14:34 PM
Man Utd have dominated West Ham. Matic has been immense. Lukaku the new Van Nistlerooy.

West Ham haven't looked good at all. Their midfield is a mess. Obiang and Noble continue to struggle as a double pivot for West Ham. I have seen that many of their fans want a 3rd CM in there alongside them and it is easy to see why on today's performance. Completely overrun in midfield.
Title: Re: 2017-18 EPL Season
Post by: Somebody on August 13, 2017, 12:37:05 PM
I'm really sad about Martial not playing, he has immense potential and I think Mou really needs to give him a chance to deliver.
Title: Re: 2017-18 EPL Season
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on August 13, 2017, 12:45:34 PM
Man Utd have dominated West Ham. Matic has been immense. Lukaku the new Van Nistlerooy.

West Ham haven't looked good at all. Their midfield is a mess. Obiang and Noble continue to struggle as a double pivot for West Ham. I have seen that many of their fans want a 3rd CM in there alongside them and it is easy to see why on today's performance. Completely overrun in midfield.

Yep. That midfield could not bring that ball up to their attacking third to save their lives. It could just be because of Matic dominating, but indeed, that midfield needs work.

Jack Wilshere's time in Arsenal is questionable, this is a guy West Ham should try and get.
Title: Re: 2017-18 EPL Season
Post by: Somebody on August 13, 2017, 12:47:38 PM
MARTIAL GOATING!!! KEEP HIM IN MOU! Number one baby!
Title: Re: 2017-18 EPL Season
Post by: The One on August 13, 2017, 07:42:55 PM
Newbie here...is EPL the best league in the world?
Title: Re: 2017-18 EPL Season
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on August 13, 2017, 08:24:59 PM
Newbie here...is EPL the best league in the world?

As far as competition, I would say yes.

The top teams in the EPL does not compare to the top teams in entire Europe, and it doesn't have the two top players in the world, but they have a very strong league altogether, as there's always about 6-7 teams that could win the title every season, and there are a few more mid-table teams that can surprise.

Compare to the other leagues, that has the Barcelona, Real Madrid, PSG, Juventus or Bayern Munich, those are the best teams in all of Europe, but their mid table teams are really, well, not good. It's always the same teams on top, and there's not a lot of competition being offered by the bottom teams, unlike the PL where a really good team could miss out on an important top 4 finish. Just this week, a bottom dwelling team, a team that could be poised for relegation just beat the (albeit incomplete) defending champions. There's also a team that managed to salvage a draw vs Liverpool, one of the top 6 teams in the PL. That thing rarely happens in other leagues

So, long story short, it doesn't have the best teams in all of Europe, but all around it has the best competition.
Title: Re: 2017-18 EPL Season
Post by: Somebody on August 13, 2017, 11:49:55 PM
Newbie here...is EPL the best league in the world?

As far as competition, I would say yes.

The top teams in the EPL does not compare to the top teams in entire Europe, and it doesn't have the two top players in the world, but they have a very strong league altogether, as there's always about 6-7 teams that could win the title every season, and there are a few more mid-table teams that can surprise.

Compare to the other leagues, that has the Barcelona, Real Madrid, PSG, Juventus or Bayern Munich, those are the best teams in all of Europe, but their mid table teams are really, well, not good. It's always the same teams on top, and there's not a lot of competition being offered by the bottom teams, unlike the PL where a really good team could miss out on an important top 4 finish. Just this week, a bottom dwelling team, a team that could be poised for relegation just beat the (albeit incomplete) defending champions. There's also a team that managed to salvage a draw vs Liverpool, one of the top 6 teams in the PL. That thing rarely happens in other leagues

So, long story short, it doesn't have the best teams in all of Europe, but all around it has the best competition.
To elaborate further on quality, the PL's top teams are now very much in the mix for the best teams in the world with Barca selling Neymar to Paris-Saint Germain with the PL also buying a lot of quality players with huge money. So I'd say the PL has close to top quality while fielding top competition. Also, PL teams have the huge advantage of being able to play a traditional english style which many teams in other leagues have difficulties with, Arsenal losing to Bayern 10-2 in 2 matches are an anomaly instead of the norm. Also The One what's your favourite PL team?
Title: Re: 2017-18 EPL Season
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on August 14, 2017, 12:00:26 AM
Newbie here...is EPL the best league in the world?

As far as competition, I would say yes.

The top teams in the EPL does not compare to the top teams in entire Europe, and it doesn't have the two top players in the world, but they have a very strong league altogether, as there's always about 6-7 teams that could win the title every season, and there are a few more mid-table teams that can surprise.

Compare to the other leagues, that has the Barcelona, Real Madrid, PSG, Juventus or Bayern Munich, those are the best teams in all of Europe, but their mid table teams are really, well, not good. It's always the same teams on top, and there's not a lot of competition being offered by the bottom teams, unlike the PL where a really good team could miss out on an important top 4 finish. Just this week, a bottom dwelling team, a team that could be poised for relegation just beat the (albeit incomplete) defending champions. There's also a team that managed to salvage a draw vs Liverpool, one of the top 6 teams in the PL. That thing rarely happens in other leagues

So, long story short, it doesn't have the best teams in all of Europe, but all around it has the best competition.
To elaborate further on quality, the PL's top teams are now very much in the mix for the best teams in the world with Barca selling Neymar to Paris-Saint Germain with the PL also buying a lot of quality players with huge money. So I'd say the PL has close to top quality while fielding top competition. Also, PL teams have the huge advantage of being able to play a traditional english style which many teams in other leagues have difficulties with, Arsenal losing to Bayern 10-2 in 2 matches are an anomaly instead of the norm. Also The One what's your favourite PL team?

Yah had to take a shot at us, don't ya?  ;)
Title: Re: 2017-18 EPL Season
Post by: Somebody on August 14, 2017, 02:20:35 AM
Newbie here...is EPL the best league in the world?

As far as competition, I would say yes.

The top teams in the EPL does not compare to the top teams in entire Europe, and it doesn't have the two top players in the world, but they have a very strong league altogether, as there's always about 6-7 teams that could win the title every season, and there are a few more mid-table teams that can surprise.

Compare to the other leagues, that has the Barcelona, Real Madrid, PSG, Juventus or Bayern Munich, those are the best teams in all of Europe, but their mid table teams are really, well, not good. It's always the same teams on top, and there's not a lot of competition being offered by the bottom teams, unlike the PL where a really good team could miss out on an important top 4 finish. Just this week, a bottom dwelling team, a team that could be poised for relegation just beat the (albeit incomplete) defending champions. There's also a team that managed to salvage a draw vs Liverpool, one of the top 6 teams in the PL. That thing rarely happens in other leagues

So, long story short, it doesn't have the best teams in all of Europe, but all around it has the best competition.
To elaborate further on quality, the PL's top teams are now very much in the mix for the best teams in the world with Barca selling Neymar to Paris-Saint Germain with the PL also buying a lot of quality players with huge money. So I'd say the PL has close to top quality while fielding top competition. Also, PL teams have the huge advantage of being able to play a traditional english style which many teams in other leagues have difficulties with, Arsenal losing to Bayern 10-2 in 2 matches are an anomaly instead of the norm. Also The One what's your favourite PL team?

Yah had to take a shot at us, don't ya?  ;)
Of course my man, that was really bad, you could've used the traditional English style to just pass their whole midfield.
Title: Re: 2017-18 EPL Season
Post by: The One on August 14, 2017, 07:50:08 AM
Newbie here...is EPL the best league in the world?

As far as competition, I would say yes.

The top teams in the EPL does not compare to the top teams in entire Europe, and it doesn't have the two top players in the world, but they have a very strong league altogether, as there's always about 6-7 teams that could win the title every season, and there are a few more mid-table teams that can surprise.

Compare to the other leagues, that has the Barcelona, Real Madrid, PSG, Juventus or Bayern Munich, those are the best teams in all of Europe, but their mid table teams are really, well, not good. It's always the same teams on top, and there's not a lot of competition being offered by the bottom teams, unlike the PL where a really good team could miss out on an important top 4 finish. Just this week, a bottom dwelling team, a team that could be poised for relegation just beat the (albeit incomplete) defending champions. There's also a team that managed to salvage a draw vs Liverpool, one of the top 6 teams in the PL. That thing rarely happens in other leagues

So, long story short, it doesn't have the best teams in all of Europe, but all around it has the best competition.
To elaborate further on quality, the PL's top teams are now very much in the mix for the best teams in the world with Barca selling Neymar to Paris-Saint Germain with the PL also buying a lot of quality players with huge money. So I'd say the PL has close to top quality while fielding top competition. Also, PL teams have the huge advantage of being able to play a traditional english style which many teams in other leagues have difficulties with, Arsenal losing to Bayern 10-2 in 2 matches are an anomaly instead of the norm. Also The One what's your favourite PL team?

Newbie again...what's a traditional english style?
Title: Re: 2017-18 EPL Season
Post by: KGs Knee on August 14, 2017, 08:20:52 AM

Newbie again...what's a traditional english style?

In a single word: garbage.

English play style has no use for midfielders because they rather just have the defensive backs kick the ball 70 yards up the field straight to the attacking players. Of course this never works at the International level, thus why England always disappoints in tournaments. It's a very rudimentary play style with no imagination. Not every team in the EPL plays this way, and the best teams obviously do have good midfielders and try to avoid this play style as much as possible though.

Funny thing is, the EPL up until recently was no different than any of the other European leagues, they had a couple of powerhouses and a bunch of fodder. With all the new TV deals the EPL was able to secure with American cable networks that changed, pretty much every team has money now. But I hate the way they play football in that league and refuse to watch that **** league.
Title: Re: 2017-18 EPL Season
Post by: Rondo2287 on August 14, 2017, 08:49:07 AM
Tottenham nearing a club record deal for Davinson Sanchez from Ajax.  Could be an awesome back 3 with Jan, Toby and him.  Rest of the league spending on attackers Tottenham should have by far he beat defense in a not great defensive league.  Levy playing chess
Title: Re: 2017-18 EPL Season
Post by: Somebody on August 15, 2017, 02:06:39 AM

Newbie again...what's a traditional english style?

In a single word: garbage.

English play style has no use for midfielders because they rather just have the defensive backs kick the ball 70 yards up the field straight to the attacking players. Of course this never works at the International level, thus why England always disappoints in tournaments. It's a very rudimentary play style with no imagination. Not every team in the EPL plays this way, and the best teams obviously do have good midfielders and try to avoid this play style as much as possible though.

Funny thing is, the EPL up until recently was no different than any of the other European leagues, they had a couple of powerhouses and a bunch of fodder. With all the new TV deals the EPL was able to secure with American cable networks that changed, pretty much every team has money now. But I hate the way they play football in that league and refuse to watch that **** league.
It does wreck other countries' style of play, and getting the W fair and square is the important thing, not dilly dallying in the midfield like Ajax and getting their ass kicked in the EL final, so say what you want about "garbage" when it brings wins.:)
Title: Re: 2017-18 EPL Season
Post by: LatterDayCelticsfan on August 15, 2017, 01:58:53 PM

Newbie again...what's a traditional english style?

In a single word: garbage.

English play style has no use for midfielders because they rather just have the defensive backs kick the ball 70 yards up the field straight to the attacking players. Of course this never works at the International level, thus why England always disappoints in tournaments. It's a very rudimentary play style with no imagination. Not every team in the EPL plays this way, and the best teams obviously do have good midfielders and try to avoid this play style as much as possible though.

Funny thing is, the EPL up until recently was no different than any of the other European leagues, they had a couple of powerhouses and a bunch of fodder. With all the new TV deals the EPL was able to secure with American cable networks that changed, pretty much every team has money now. But I hate the way they play football in that league and refuse to watch that **** league.
It does wreck other countries' style of play, and getting the W fair and square is the important thing, not dilly dallying in the midfield like Ajax and getting their ass kicked in the EL final, so say what you want about "garbage" when it brings wins.:)

Actually it just hand possession back to the opponents when the big number 9 fails to control the ball long enough for help to come through 95% of the time.
Title: Re: 2017-18 EPL Season
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on August 17, 2017, 10:36:02 AM
Swap Alexis for Draxler, kill two birds with one stone.

Come on, Arsenal. He's good friends with Ozil and he's teammates with Kolasinac before, we have the recruiters.

https://twitter.com/YahooSportUK/status/898145285129588736

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PSG boss Unai Emery has told Julian Draxler there's no room for him in his squad. He signed in January.... #PSG
Title: Re: 2017-18 EPL Season
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on August 17, 2017, 11:01:45 AM

Newbie again...what's a traditional english style?

In a single word: garbage.

English play style has no use for midfielders because they rather just have the defensive backs kick the ball 70 yards up the field straight to the attacking players. Of course this never works at the International level, thus why England always disappoints in tournaments. It's a very rudimentary play style with no imagination. Not every team in the EPL plays this way, and the best teams obviously do have good midfielders and try to avoid this play style as much as possible though.

Funny thing is, the EPL up until recently was no different than any of the other European leagues, they had a couple of powerhouses and a bunch of fodder. With all the new TV deals the EPL was able to secure with American cable networks that changed, pretty much every team has money now. But I hate the way they play football in that league and refuse to watch that **** league.

Paul Pogba, Eden Hazard, David Silva, N'golo Kante, Nemanja Matic, Philippe Countinho, Kevin De Bruyne, Mesut Ozil, Christian Eriksen, Dele Alli, Gylfi Sigurdsson, Riyad Mahrez, Wayne Rooney disagrees.

There are also a few names, a tier below the top guys such as Aaron Ramsey, Yaya Toure (he's here now), Ander Herrera, Henrik Mkhitaryan, Ilkay Gundogan, Cesc Fabregas (he's here now too), Sadio Mane, Ross Barkley, Jordan Henderson who would also disagree. All (except maybe Andre Herrera) are representing their national teams and all are top quality.

And then there are new guys like Mohamed Salah,  Bernardo Silva, Tiemou Bakayoko, Davy Klaasen. Those guys are vital to their previous clubs' success themselves, and are now in the PL.

I don't think there's any other league in the world that can say they can sport a crop of midfielders this talented in one league.

(and I may have forgotten a few more names)
Title: Re: 2017-18 EPL Season
Post by: Somebody on August 17, 2017, 11:05:53 AM

Newbie again...what's a traditional english style?

In a single word: garbage.

English play style has no use for midfielders because they rather just have the defensive backs kick the ball 70 yards up the field straight to the attacking players. Of course this never works at the International level, thus why England always disappoints in tournaments. It's a very rudimentary play style with no imagination. Not every team in the EPL plays this way, and the best teams obviously do have good midfielders and try to avoid this play style as much as possible though.

Funny thing is, the EPL up until recently was no different than any of the other European leagues, they had a couple of powerhouses and a bunch of fodder. With all the new TV deals the EPL was able to secure with American cable networks that changed, pretty much every team has money now. But I hate the way they play football in that league and refuse to watch that **** league.
It does wreck other countries' style of play, and getting the W fair and square is the important thing, not dilly dallying in the midfield like Ajax and getting their ass kicked in the EL final, so say what you want about "garbage" when it brings wins.:)

Actually it just hand possession back to the opponents when the big number 9 fails to control the ball long enough for help to come through 95% of the time.
Well we've got Ibra and Lukaku so I'm not worrying about handing over possession lol.
Title: Re: 2017-18 EPL Season
Post by: Somebody on August 17, 2017, 11:06:49 AM

Newbie again...what's a traditional english style?

In a single word: garbage.

English play style has no use for midfielders because they rather just have the defensive backs kick the ball 70 yards up the field straight to the attacking players. Of course this never works at the International level, thus why England always disappoints in tournaments. It's a very rudimentary play style with no imagination. Not every team in the EPL plays this way, and the best teams obviously do have good midfielders and try to avoid this play style as much as possible though.

Funny thing is, the EPL up until recently was no different than any of the other European leagues, they had a couple of powerhouses and a bunch of fodder. With all the new TV deals the EPL was able to secure with American cable networks that changed, pretty much every team has money now. But I hate the way they play football in that league and refuse to watch that **** league.

Paul Pogba, Eden Hazard, David Silva, N'golo Kante, Nemanja Matic, Philippe Countinho, Kevin De Bruyne, Mesut Ozil, Christian Eriksen, Dele Alli, Gylfi Sigurdsson, Riyad Mahrez, Wayne Rooney disagrees.

There are also a few names, a tier below the top guys such as Aaron Ramsey, Yaya Toure (he's here now), Ander Herrera, Henrik Mkhitaryan, Ilkay Gundogan, Cesc Fabregas (he's here now too), Sadio Mane, Ross Barkley, Jordan Henderson who would also disagree. All (except maybe Andre Herrera) are representing their national teams and all are top quality.

And then there are new guys like Mohamed Salah,  Bernardo Silva, Tiemou Bakayoko, Davy Klaasen. Those guys are vital to their previous clubs' success themselves, and are now in the PL.

I don't think there's any other league in the world that can say they can sport a crop of midfielders this talented in one league.

(and I may have forgotten a few more names)
Yeah, you forgot Juan Mata and Mr. Overpaid albeit useful Nemanja Matic.
Title: Re: 2017-18 EPL Season
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on August 17, 2017, 11:13:57 AM

Newbie again...what's a traditional english style?

In a single word: garbage.

English play style has no use for midfielders because they rather just have the defensive backs kick the ball 70 yards up the field straight to the attacking players. Of course this never works at the International level, thus why England always disappoints in tournaments. It's a very rudimentary play style with no imagination. Not every team in the EPL plays this way, and the best teams obviously do have good midfielders and try to avoid this play style as much as possible though.

Funny thing is, the EPL up until recently was no different than any of the other European leagues, they had a couple of powerhouses and a bunch of fodder. With all the new TV deals the EPL was able to secure with American cable networks that changed, pretty much every team has money now. But I hate the way they play football in that league and refuse to watch that **** league.

Paul Pogba, Eden Hazard, David Silva, N'golo Kante, Nemanja Matic, Philippe Countinho, Kevin De Bruyne, Mesut Ozil, Christian Eriksen, Dele Alli, Gylfi Sigurdsson, Riyad Mahrez, Wayne Rooney disagrees.

There are also a few names, a tier below the top guys such as Aaron Ramsey, Yaya Toure (he's here now), Ander Herrera, Henrik Mkhitaryan, Ilkay Gundogan, Cesc Fabregas (he's here now too), Sadio Mane, Ross Barkley, Jordan Henderson who would also disagree. All (except maybe Andre Herrera) are representing their national teams and all are top quality.

And then there are new guys like Mohamed Salah,  Bernardo Silva, Tiemou Bakayoko, Davy Klaasen. Those guys are vital to their previous clubs' success themselves, and are now in the PL.

I don't think there's any other league in the world that can say they can sport a crop of midfielders this talented in one league.

(and I may have forgotten a few more names)
Yeah, you forgot Juan Mata and Mr. Overpaid albeit useful Nemanja Matic.

I had Matic on the list. I think he's going to be great.

I did forget Juan Mata, but then again, for some part of the season, so did Jose', so call it even?
Title: Re: 2017-18 EPL Season
Post by: Somebody on August 18, 2017, 08:12:37 AM

Newbie again...what's a traditional english style?

In a single word: garbage.

English play style has no use for midfielders because they rather just have the defensive backs kick the ball 70 yards up the field straight to the attacking players. Of course this never works at the International level, thus why England always disappoints in tournaments. It's a very rudimentary play style with no imagination. Not every team in the EPL plays this way, and the best teams obviously do have good midfielders and try to avoid this play style as much as possible though.

Funny thing is, the EPL up until recently was no different than any of the other European leagues, they had a couple of powerhouses and a bunch of fodder. With all the new TV deals the EPL was able to secure with American cable networks that changed, pretty much every team has money now. But I hate the way they play football in that league and refuse to watch that **** league.

Paul Pogba, Eden Hazard, David Silva, N'golo Kante, Nemanja Matic, Philippe Countinho, Kevin De Bruyne, Mesut Ozil, Christian Eriksen, Dele Alli, Gylfi Sigurdsson, Riyad Mahrez, Wayne Rooney disagrees.

There are also a few names, a tier below the top guys such as Aaron Ramsey, Yaya Toure (he's here now), Ander Herrera, Henrik Mkhitaryan, Ilkay Gundogan, Cesc Fabregas (he's here now too), Sadio Mane, Ross Barkley, Jordan Henderson who would also disagree. All (except maybe Andre Herrera) are representing their national teams and all are top quality.

And then there are new guys like Mohamed Salah,  Bernardo Silva, Tiemou Bakayoko, Davy Klaasen. Those guys are vital to their previous clubs' success themselves, and are now in the PL.

I don't think there's any other league in the world that can say they can sport a crop of midfielders this talented in one league.

(and I may have forgotten a few more names)
Yeah, you forgot Juan Mata and Mr. Overpaid albeit useful Nemanja Matic.

I had Matic on the list. I think he's going to be great.

I did forget Juan Mata, but then again, for some part of the season, so did Jose', so call it even?
Lol yeah. I like Matic but 50 million is a bit crazy for a 29 year old like him.
Title: Re: 2017-18 EPL Season
Post by: Rondo2287 on August 18, 2017, 09:06:27 PM
Tottenham completed the signing of Davinson Sanchez.  They now clearly have the best defense in the league with

Dier, Dembele, Wanyama in midfield

Verthongen, Alderwereild, Sanchez in the back

Rose, Trippier on the wings

Lloris in net

I would not want to go up against that team
Title: Re: 2017-18 EPL Season
Post by: Somebody on August 19, 2017, 12:39:22 AM
Tottenham completed the signing of Davinson Sanchez.  They now clearly have the best defense in the league with

Dier, Dembele, Wanyama in midfield

Verthongen, Alderwereild, Sanchez in the back

Rose, Trippier on the wings

Lloris in net

I would not want to go up against that team
I certainly disagree, United have Pogba, Matic, Herrera and Fellaini in the midfield, Bailly, Smalling, Jones and Lindelof at the back and Valencia and Darmian on the wings with De Gea between the sticks, imo that's as good as Tottenham's defense.
Title: Re: 2017-18 EPL Season
Post by: Rondo2287 on August 19, 2017, 06:48:36 AM
Tottenham completed the signing of Davinson Sanchez.  They now clearly have the best defense in the league with

Dier, Dembele, Wanyama in midfield

Verthongen, Alderwereild, Sanchez in the back

Rose, Trippier on the wings

Lloris in net

I would not want to go up against that team
I certainly disagree, United have Pogba, Matic, Herrera and Fellaini in the midfield, Bailly, Smalling, Jones and Lindelof at the back and Valencia and Darmian on the wings with De Gea between the sticks, imo that's as good as Tottenham's defense.

Wanyama had a bigger impact on Tottenham last year than Pogba did on Man U. 

Toby is the best center back in the league, and Magic had one good game but is largely inconsistent.  Rose is the best left back in the league. 

Also Dembele is probably the most underrated player in the league by pundits and fans
Title: Re: 2017-18 EPL Season
Post by: Who on August 19, 2017, 08:01:33 AM
Matic reminding me of Darko with that #31 shirt for Man Utd.

The way he moves. Giant - towers over people in midfield. Both lefties.
Title: Re: 2017-18 EPL Season
Post by: Somebody on August 19, 2017, 08:04:10 AM
Tottenham completed the signing of Davinson Sanchez.  They now clearly have the best defense in the league with

Dier, Dembele, Wanyama in midfield

Verthongen, Alderwereild, Sanchez in the back

Rose, Trippier on the wings

Lloris in net

I would not want to go up against that team
I certainly disagree, United have Pogba, Matic, Herrera and Fellaini in the midfield, Bailly, Smalling, Jones and Lindelof at the back and Valencia and Darmian on the wings with De Gea between the sticks, imo that's as good as Tottenham's defense.

Wanyama had a bigger impact on Tottenham last year than Pogba did on Man U. 

Toby is the best center back in the league, and Magic had one good game but is largely inconsistent.  Rose is the best left back in the league. 

Also Dembele is probably the most underrated player in the league by pundits and fans
From what I've seen we dominated a team that's most likely going to finish at 8th or 10th place and you guys could only score when a new team straight from the CL was down to 10 men. We'll see as the season progresses.
Title: Re: 2017-18 EPL Season
Post by: Somebody on August 19, 2017, 09:31:05 AM
Lukaku being a goal machine, Pogba and Matic being the ultimate midfield axis and Martial being our super sub. Everyone's GOATing in United 8)
Title: Re: 2017-18 EPL Season
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on August 19, 2017, 11:10:26 AM
Lukaku being a goal machine, Pogba and Matic being the ultimate midfield axis and Martial being our super sub. Everyone's GOATing in United 8)

The speed on their counter attack is terrifying. Happy for Martial, he's becoming one of my favorite players (which sucks because he's a Man United guy). The kid is full of promise. That run, the move to get space and that finish is just a beauty to watch.
Title: Re: 2017-18 EPL Season
Post by: Somebody on August 19, 2017, 11:19:20 AM
Lukaku being a goal machine, Pogba and Matic being the ultimate midfield axis and Martial being our super sub. Everyone's GOATing in United 8)

The speed on their counter attack is terrifying. Happy for Martial, he's becoming one of my favorite players (which sucks because he's a Man United guy). The kid is full of promise. That run, the move to get space and that finish is just a beauty to watch.
That was why I told you Rashford and Lingard need to be sold before we even consider loaning Martial 8)
Title: Re: 2017-18 EPL Season
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on August 19, 2017, 11:23:51 AM
Lukaku being a goal machine, Pogba and Matic being the ultimate midfield axis and Martial being our super sub. Everyone's GOATing in United 8)

The speed on their counter attack is terrifying. Happy for Martial, he's becoming one of my favorite players (which sucks because he's a Man United guy). The kid is full of promise. That run, the move to get space and that finish is just a beauty to watch.
That was why I told you Rashford and Lingard need to be sold before we even consider loaning Martial 8)

1. I, an Arsenal fan, will take Marcus Rashford. Especially since we might sell Ox, will help the home grown quota. That would be funny, Welbeck and then Rashford at Arsenal.

2. I only wanted him to be loaned because I want Martial to play, as I thought he won't get any pitch time at Utd. As much as I despise United, I want to see that kid to succeed. I'm a fan.
Title: Re: 2017-18 EPL Season
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on August 19, 2017, 11:34:22 AM
Chicharito just poached two goals against Southampton.

Happy to see him back in the PL and poaching again.
Title: Re: 2017-18 EPL Season
Post by: Somebody on August 19, 2017, 12:14:37 PM
Lukaku being a goal machine, Pogba and Matic being the ultimate midfield axis and Martial being our super sub. Everyone's GOATing in United 8)

The speed on their counter attack is terrifying. Happy for Martial, he's becoming one of my favorite players (which sucks because he's a Man United guy). The kid is full of promise. That run, the move to get space and that finish is just a beauty to watch.
That was why I told you Rashford and Lingard need to be sold before we even consider loaning Martial 8)

1. I, an Arsenal fan, will take Marcus Rashford. Especially since we might sell Ox, will help the home grown quota. That would be funny, Welbeck and then Rashford at Arsenal.

2. I only wanted him to be loaned because I want Martial to play, as I thought he won't get any pitch time at Utd. As much as I despise United, I want to see that kid to succeed. I'm a fan.
Lol.We're not selling Rashford, yet. He has promise although I'm not a huge fan. Btw why the hate on Man U? We haven't been rivals for some time.
Title: Re: 2017-18 EPL Season
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on August 19, 2017, 12:25:28 PM
Lukaku being a goal machine, Pogba and Matic being the ultimate midfield axis and Martial being our super sub. Everyone's GOATing in United 8)

The speed on their counter attack is terrifying. Happy for Martial, he's becoming one of my favorite players (which sucks because he's a Man United guy). The kid is full of promise. That run, the move to get space and that finish is just a beauty to watch.
That was why I told you Rashford and Lingard need to be sold before we even consider loaning Martial 8)

1. I, an Arsenal fan, will take Marcus Rashford. Especially since we might sell Ox, will help the home grown quota. That would be funny, Welbeck and then Rashford at Arsenal.

2. I only wanted him to be loaned because I want Martial to play, as I thought he won't get any pitch time at Utd. As much as I despise United, I want to see that kid to succeed. I'm a fan.
Lol.We're not selling Rashford, yet. He has promise although I'm not a huge fan. Btw why the hate on Man U? We haven't been rivals for some time.

Why the hate on Man U? C'mon man.

Have you forgotten a certain snake with initials such as R-V-P?
Title: Re: 2017-18 EPL Season
Post by: Sixth Man on August 19, 2017, 01:58:44 PM
Lukaku being a goal machine, Pogba and Matic being the ultimate midfield axis and Martial being our super sub. Everyone's GOATing in United 8)

The speed on their counter attack is terrifying. Happy for Martial, he's becoming one of my favorite players (which sucks because he's a Man United guy). The kid is full of promise. That run, the move to get space and that finish is just a beauty to watch.
That was why I told you Rashford and Lingard need to be sold before we even consider loaning Martial 8)

1. I, an Arsenal fan, will take Marcus Rashford. Especially since we might sell Ox, will help the home grown quota. That would be funny, Welbeck and then Rashford at Arsenal.

2. I only wanted him to be loaned because I want Martial to play, as I thought he won't get any pitch time at Utd. As much as I despise United, I want to see that kid to succeed. I'm a fan.
Lol.We're not selling Rashford, yet. He has promise although I'm not a huge fan. Btw why the hate on Man U? We haven't been rivals for some time.

United haven't really been anyone's 'rivals' for some time now... :)
Title: Re: 2017-18 EPL Season
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on August 19, 2017, 02:10:50 PM
I'm sorry, I know we conceded a goal and we had missed chances, but two clear penalties not called and a goal called offside when it is not, the referees are taking this game away from Arsenal.

This is infuriating.

Edit: I take it back, this referee just sucks overall.

He missed a foul on a Stoke player trying to challenge Ox for the ball, and missed an obvious foul on a Mustafi on his tackle. Stoke should have had a penalty.

Title: Re: 2017-18 EPL Season
Post by: Somebody on August 20, 2017, 01:29:35 AM
Lukaku being a goal machine, Pogba and Matic being the ultimate midfield axis and Martial being our super sub. Everyone's GOATing in United 8)

The speed on their counter attack is terrifying. Happy for Martial, he's becoming one of my favorite players (which sucks because he's a Man United guy). The kid is full of promise. That run, the move to get space and that finish is just a beauty to watch.
That was why I told you Rashford and Lingard need to be sold before we even consider loaning Martial 8)

1. I, an Arsenal fan, will take Marcus Rashford. Especially since we might sell Ox, will help the home grown quota. That would be funny, Welbeck and then Rashford at Arsenal.

2. I only wanted him to be loaned because I want Martial to play, as I thought he won't get any pitch time at Utd. As much as I despise United, I want to see that kid to succeed. I'm a fan.
Lol.We're not selling Rashford, yet. He has promise although I'm not a huge fan. Btw why the hate on Man U? We haven't been rivals for some time.

United haven't really been anyone's 'rivals' for some time now... :)
And so is Arsenal 8)
Title: Re: 2017-18 EPL Season
Post by: Somebody on August 20, 2017, 01:30:25 AM
I'm sorry, I know we conceded a goal and we had missed chances, but two clear penalties not called and a goal called offside when it is not, the referees are taking this game away from Arsenal.

This is infuriating.

Edit: I take it back, this referee just sucks overall.

He missed a foul on a Stoke player trying to challenge Ox for the ball, and missed an obvious foul on a Mustafi on his tackle. Stoke should have had a penalty.
"seafood football" for Arsenal rn
Title: Re: 2017-18 EPL Season
Post by: Sixth Man on August 20, 2017, 03:33:52 AM
Lukaku being a goal machine, Pogba and Matic being the ultimate midfield axis and Martial being our super sub. Everyone's GOATing in United 8)

The speed on their counter attack is terrifying. Happy for Martial, he's becoming one of my favorite players (which sucks because he's a Man United guy). The kid is full of promise. That run, the move to get space and that finish is just a beauty to watch.
That was why I told you Rashford and Lingard need to be sold before we even consider loaning Martial 8)

1. I, an Arsenal fan, will take Marcus Rashford. Especially since we might sell Ox, will help the home grown quota. That would be funny, Welbeck and then Rashford at Arsenal.

2. I only wanted him to be loaned because I want Martial to play, as I thought he won't get any pitch time at Utd. As much as I despise United, I want to see that kid to succeed. I'm a fan.
Lol.We're not selling Rashford, yet. He has promise although I'm not a huge fan. Btw why the hate on Man U? We haven't been rivals for some time.

United haven't really been anyone's 'rivals' for some time now... :)
And so is Arsenal 8)

Yes, I agree 100%! 
Title: Re: 2017-18 EPL Season
Post by: Somebody on August 20, 2017, 03:36:37 AM
Lukaku being a goal machine, Pogba and Matic being the ultimate midfield axis and Martial being our super sub. Everyone's GOATing in United 8)

The speed on their counter attack is terrifying. Happy for Martial, he's becoming one of my favorite players (which sucks because he's a Man United guy). The kid is full of promise. That run, the move to get space and that finish is just a beauty to watch.
That was why I told you Rashford and Lingard need to be sold before we even consider loaning Martial 8)

1. I, an Arsenal fan, will take Marcus Rashford. Especially since we might sell Ox, will help the home grown quota. That would be funny, Welbeck and then Rashford at Arsenal.

2. I only wanted him to be loaned because I want Martial to play, as I thought he won't get any pitch time at Utd. As much as I despise United, I want to see that kid to succeed. I'm a fan.
Lol.We're not selling Rashford, yet. He has promise although I'm not a huge fan. Btw why the hate on Man U? We haven't been rivals for some time.

Why the hate on Man U? C'mon man.

Have you forgotten a certain snake with initials such as R-V-P?
Well Wenger agreed to let him go, it wasn't like KD. Also Arsenal hasn't won the PL in ages, it's normal for great players to want to leave and THEN become champions.
Title: Re: 2017-18 EPL Season
Post by: Somebody on August 20, 2017, 07:16:52 AM
Woah, Spurs finally opening up that bank account by paying 42 million pounds for Sanchez.
Title: Re: 2017-18 EPL Season
Post by: Somebody on August 20, 2017, 10:22:23 AM
HUDDERSFIELD MAKING THE CL BABY!
Title: Re: 2017-18 EPL Season
Post by: Who on August 20, 2017, 11:06:33 AM
Chelsea playing a 3-6-1 against Tottenham. A diamond in midfield with wing backs. 3 CBs and 3 defensive minded midfielders in front of them with wing backs alongside them.

So defensive minded.
Title: Re: 2017-18 EPL Season
Post by: Who on August 20, 2017, 11:25:43 AM
Oh, what a free kick from Marcos Alonso!
Title: Re: 2017-18 EPL Season
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on August 20, 2017, 12:48:11 PM
Marcos Alonso is killing Tottenham right now. What a game he's having.
Title: Re: 2017-18 EPL Season
Post by: Somebody on August 21, 2017, 02:06:11 AM
Sigh...I want to see Gus Hiddink... :'(
Title: Re: 2017-18 EPL Season
Post by: Who on August 21, 2017, 08:19:42 AM
I thought Spurs lacked quality in their wing backs yesterday. They weren't able to stretch the pitch. Wanted to keep coming back into the middle where their creative players were (Eriksen, Alli, Dembele) but Chelsea had locked that down by flooding the central areas.

Tottenham needed to be able to shift the play wide and play down the flanks but their wing backs were too limited going forward. Capable of good delivery when given time and space but lacking in the ball control and dribbling skills to beat their man and create space for themselves. Which meant the ball had to keep coming back into the middle where Chelsea had shut down that area of the pitch.

I also thought Tottenham's side center backs (Dier, Vertonghen) could have offered more in possession. Pushed higher up and wider in possession. Allow the wing backs to venture further forward and stretch Chelsea this way. They didn't look comfortable enough in doing this. Alderweireld is incredible in possession (with his range of passing) in the middle of the defence but I think Tottenham can improve their attacking qualities alongside him. I think Chelsea using Azpilicueta as a CB allows them this. As does Arsenal with Monreal / Kolasinac. Or previously the great Ajax / Barcelona teams with Frank De Boer.

Anyways, I think Tottenham need better quality in their wing backs to reach that next level as an attacking force.

In the meantime, I think teams can get some joy against them by overloading the middle of the pitch like Chelsea did. Newcastle were similarly effective until they had a man sent off in the first match. More teams should do likewise against Tottenham if they stay in that 3-4-2-1. I think they can slow them down with D.Rose still out and K.Walker gone.
Title: Re: 2017-18 EPL Season
Post by: Somebody on August 21, 2017, 09:40:07 AM
I thought Spurs lacked quality in their wing backs yesterday. They weren't able to stretch the pitch. Wanted to keep coming back into the middle where their creative players were (Eriksen, Alli, Dembele) but Chelsea had locked that down by flooding the central areas.

Tottenham needed to be able to shift the play wide and play down the flanks but their wing backs were too limited going forward. Capable of good delivery when given time and space but lacking in the ball control and dribbling skills to beat their man and create space for themselves. Which meant the ball had to keep coming back into the middle where Chelsea had shut down that area of the pitch.

I also thought Tottenham's side center backs (Dier, Vertonghen) could have offered more in possession. Pushed higher up and wider in possession. Allow the wing backs to venture further forward and stretch Chelsea this way. They didn't look comfortable enough in doing this. Alderweireld is incredible in possession (with his range of passing) in the middle of the defence but I think Tottenham can improve their attacking qualities alongside him. I think Chelsea using Azpilicueta as a CB allows them this. As does Arsenal with Monreal / Kolasinac. Or previously the great Ajax / Barcelona teams with Frank De Boer.

Anyways, I think Tottenham need better quality in their wing backs to reach that next level as an attacking force.

In the meantime, I think teams can get some joy against them by overloading the middle of the pitch like Chelsea did.
Newcastle were similarly effective until they had a man sent off in the first match. More teams should do likewise against Tottenham if they stay in that 3-4-2-1. I think they can slow them down with D.Rose still out and K.Walker gone.
And I think teams get some joy by overcrowding the midfield against Chelsea as well, look at the United vs Chelsea match where we used a 3-5-2 and a 3-6-1 formation against them and went away with a 2-0 win where Chelsea couldn't even get a shot on target and only shot like 3 shots. In fact I think Conte learnt this from Mou lol.
Title: Re: 2017-18 EPL Season
Post by: Who on August 26, 2017, 07:09:53 AM
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Mauricio Pochettino says Davinson Sánchez has the talent and strength of character to develop into “one of the best centre-backs in the world”. The Tottenham Hotspur manager took the 21-year-old Colombian from Ajax for a club record £42m this week and he was relieved that a more financially powerful club had not tried to hijack the deal.

Pochettino described Sánchez as the perfect fit for his style at Tottenham, which involves a high defensive line – something he got used to during his single season at Ajax under Peter Bosz. Sánchez has the pace to be confident about leaving spaces in behind him.

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“He has an amazing history and background,” Pochettino said. “He is so aggressive, so fast and he loves to play with risk at his back. It’s a massive opportunity because we believe he will be one of the best centre-backs in the world.”

Couldn't agree more = D.Sanchez is awesome and can be one of the top CBs in the world.

Great signing for Tottenham.

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Aurier will sign for €25m (£23m) if he can resolve the issues that relate to his convertible two-month prison sentence.The 24-year-old Ivory Coast international has appealed against the punishment – which was suspended – and given to him last year, after he allegedly assaulted a police officer outside a nightclub in Paris. Convertible sentences mean the offender is more likely to do community service and pay a heavier fine.

Tottenham have agreed terms on the move for Aurier with both him and PSG. The final obstacle involves the Home Office giving Aurier the necessary clearance to enter the United Kingdom. The defender missed a Champions League game at Arsenal last season because he was not allowed into the country.

Big fan of Aurier too. Great replacement for Kyle Walker.

To be honest, I'd rather have Aurier than Walker. Better crosser of the ball. I think he'd be an upgrade for Tottenham.

Spurs doing excellent business to close the window.

They might get Ross Barkley too if Barkley lowers his wage demands. Barkley would be superb in Pochettino's tactics with his physicality and athleticism in midfield.
Title: Re: 2017-18 EPL Season
Post by: Sixth Man on August 27, 2017, 02:58:25 AM
Quote
Mauricio Pochettino says Davinson Sánchez has the talent and strength of character to develop into “one of the best centre-backs in the world”. The Tottenham Hotspur manager took the 21-year-old Colombian from Ajax for a club record £42m this week and he was relieved that a more financially powerful club had not tried to hijack the deal.

Pochettino described Sánchez as the perfect fit for his style at Tottenham, which involves a high defensive line – something he got used to during his single season at Ajax under Peter Bosz. Sánchez has the pace to be confident about leaving spaces in behind him.

Quote
“He has an amazing history and background,” Pochettino said. “He is so aggressive, so fast and he loves to play with risk at his back. It’s a massive opportunity because we believe he will be one of the best centre-backs in the world.”

Couldn't agree more = D.Sanchez is awesome and can be one of the top CBs in the world.

Great signing for Tottenham.

Quote
Aurier will sign for €25m (£23m) if he can resolve the issues that relate to his convertible two-month prison sentence.The 24-year-old Ivory Coast international has appealed against the punishment – which was suspended – and given to him last year, after he allegedly assaulted a police officer outside a nightclub in Paris. Convertible sentences mean the offender is more likely to do community service and pay a heavier fine.

Tottenham have agreed terms on the move for Aurier with both him and PSG. The final obstacle involves the Home Office giving Aurier the necessary clearance to enter the United Kingdom. The defender missed a Champions League game at Arsenal last season because he was not allowed into the country.

Big fan of Aurier too. Great replacement for Kyle Walker.

To be honest, I'd rather have Aurier than Walker. Better crosser of the ball. I think he'd be an upgrade for Tottenham.

Spurs doing excellent business to close the window.

They might get Ross Barkley too if Barkley lowers his wage demands. Barkley would be superb in Pochettino's tactics with his physicality and athleticism in midfield.

Here's a link for you about Aurier:

https://www.fourfourtwo.com/features/tottenham-target-serge-aurier-a-fine-footballer-a-troubling-background (https://www.fourfourtwo.com/features/tottenham-target-serge-aurier-a-fine-footballer-a-troubling-background)
Title: Re: 2017-18 EPL Season
Post by: Somebody on August 27, 2017, 03:10:44 AM
United still GOATing, love how we still kept on attacking until we finally got the goal.
Title: Re: 2017-18 EPL Season
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on August 27, 2017, 06:33:15 PM
Players being played out of position. No passions whatsoever. Bought a £50 million striker and brought in the best Left Back in the Bundesliga last year and have them sit on the bench. Questionable substitutions.

Huddersfield spent more money than we did. . . Bloody Huddersfield!

Arsene Wenger has lost it. And his demented brain is going to be in charge for the next two year.

I can't take this anymore.
Title: Re: 2017-18 EPL Season
Post by: Sixth Man on August 27, 2017, 07:15:10 PM
Players being played out of position. No passions whatsoever. Bought a £50 million striker and brought in the best Left Back in the Bundesliga last year and have them sit on the bench. Questionable substitutions.

Huddersfield spent more money than we did. . . Bloody Huddersfield!

Arsene Wenger has lost it. And his demented brain is going to be in charge for the next two year.

I can't take this anymore.

If you lot need £££, you're welcome to sell us Alexis! 
Title: Re: 2017-18 EPL Season
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on August 28, 2017, 10:42:01 AM
Players being played out of position. No passions whatsoever. Bought a £50 million striker and brought in the best Left Back in the Bundesliga last year and have them sit on the bench. Questionable substitutions.

Huddersfield spent more money than we did. . . Bloody Huddersfield!

Arsene Wenger has lost it. And his demented brain is going to be in charge for the next two year.

I can't take this anymore.

If you lot need £££, you're welcome to sell us Alexis!

I hope to God we do. Alexis deserves better than this incompetent football club.

I really want Ozil, Alexis and Ox to be sold. Ozil and Alexis so they could go to better clubs because they deserve it. Ox because he's just stupid.

We will lose two of our best players, two guys that makes Arsenal an attractive team to come to, but we lose the uncertainty as well. I think all the contract talks are taking a toll with this squad. We lose that, we can focus on games.

If we made the Champions League having Chamakh, Bendtner, Arshavin, Denilson, Rosicky, and Alex Song in our squad, we can do it with Lacazette, Ramsey, Walcott, Giroud, Xhaka, (I think).

Maybe we can buy Riyad Mahrez from the money we get from the three sold players. We may never land a world class player in the next decade, but selling Ozil and Alexis could set us up for a full rebuild. I'd rather have that right now to be honest.

Arsenal is such a mess.
Title: Re: 2017-18 EPL Season
Post by: ederson on August 28, 2017, 11:00:25 AM

If we made the Champions League having Chamakh, Bendtner, Arshavin, Denilson, Rosicky, and Alex Song in our squad, we can do it with Lacazette, Ramsey, Walcott, Giroud, Xhaka, (I think).

It's PL so everything is possible but i highly doubt it. The competition for CL spots is much higher today.
Title: Re: 2017-18 EPL Season
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on August 28, 2017, 11:32:03 AM

If we made the Champions League having Chamakh, Bendtner, Arshavin, Denilson, Rosicky, and Alex Song in our squad, we can do it with Lacazette, Ramsey, Walcott, Giroud, Xhaka, (I think).

It's PL so everything is possible but i highly doubt it. The competition for CL spots is much higher today.

We can win the Europa League? ;-)
Title: Re: 2017-18 EPL Season
Post by: Somebody on August 28, 2017, 11:56:51 AM
Players being played out of position. No passions whatsoever. Bought a £50 million striker and brought in the best Left Back in the Bundesliga last year and have them sit on the bench. Questionable substitutions.

Huddersfield spent more money than we did. . . Bloody Huddersfield!

Arsene Wenger has lost it. And his demented brain is going to be in charge for the next two year.

I can't take this anymore.

If you lot need £££, you're welcome to sell us Alexis!

I hope to God we do. Alexis deserves better than this incompetent football club.

I really want Ozil, Alexis and Ox to be sold. Ozil and Alexis so they could go to better clubs because they deserve it. Ox because he's just stupid.

We will lose two of our best players, two guys that makes Arsenal an attractive team to come to, but we lose the uncertainty as well. I think all the contract talks are taking a toll with this squad. We lose that, we can focus on games.

If we made the Champions League having Chamakh, Bendtner, Arshavin, Denilson, Rosicky, and Alex Song in our squad, we can do it with Lacazette, Ramsey, Walcott, Giroud, Xhaka, (I think).

Maybe we can buy Riyad Mahrez from the money we get from the three sold players. We may never land a world class player in the next decade, but selling Ozil and Alexis could set us up for a full rebuild. I'd rather have that right now to be honest.

Arsenal is such a mess.
Well Huddersfield is 3rd on the table with convincing play :laugh:. For Alexis I think you should sell him to City ASAP for 70 million pounds, you need the money to fund possible signings like Draxler and the 21 year old guy in Monaco. For Ozil...I really don't rate him highly, he isn't a real game changer for PL teams imo, dude goes invisible often, just sell him to a team willing to pay 35+ million. For Ox I think you should keep him as a young piece to pair with Draxler/Monaco guy as the w.ings. Arsenal is in a good position, I think Wenger was just a bit conservative. Believe in him. I think after selling those guys you should just throw 40+ million for a talented CB, there's a lot of promising youngsters on the market.
Title: Re: 2017-18 EPL Season
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on August 28, 2017, 12:10:20 PM
How we get £35 million for Ox is beyond me. But hey, I'll take some good news.

http://www.skysports.com/transfer-centre

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BREAKING NEWS

We understand Chelsea have agreed a fee with Arsenal for Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain. The 24-year old is currently with the England squad at St George’s Park.

It’s thought that large parts of his medical could be carried out at England’s training centre. The clubs are yet to confirm the development but it’s our understanding that an agreement between the two clubs has been reached this afternoon.

The fee is believed to be around £35m.
Title: Re: 2017-18 EPL Season
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on August 28, 2017, 12:35:56 PM
Players being played out of position. No passions whatsoever. Bought a £50 million striker and brought in the best Left Back in the Bundesliga last year and have them sit on the bench. Questionable substitutions.

Huddersfield spent more money than we did. . . Bloody Huddersfield!

Arsene Wenger has lost it. And his demented brain is going to be in charge for the next two year.

I can't take this anymore.

If you lot need £££, you're welcome to sell us Alexis!

I hope to God we do. Alexis deserves better than this incompetent football club.

I really want Ozil, Alexis and Ox to be sold. Ozil and Alexis so they could go to better clubs because they deserve it. Ox because he's just stupid.

We will lose two of our best players, two guys that makes Arsenal an attractive team to come to, but we lose the uncertainty as well. I think all the contract talks are taking a toll with this squad. We lose that, we can focus on games.

If we made the Champions League having Chamakh, Bendtner, Arshavin, Denilson, Rosicky, and Alex Song in our squad, we can do it with Lacazette, Ramsey, Walcott, Giroud, Xhaka, (I think).

Maybe we can buy Riyad Mahrez from the money we get from the three sold players. We may never land a world class player in the next decade, but selling Ozil and Alexis could set us up for a full rebuild. I'd rather have that right now to be honest.

Arsenal is such a mess.
Well Huddersfield is 3rd on the table with convincing play :laugh:. For Alexis I think you should sell him to City ASAP for 70 million pounds, you need the money to fund possible signings like Draxler and the 21 year old guy in Monaco. For Ozil...I really don't rate him highly, he isn't a real game changer for PL teams imo, dude goes invisible often, just sell him to a team willing to pay 35+ million. For Ox I think you should keep him as a young piece to pair with Draxler/Monaco guy as the w.ings. Arsenal is in a good position, I think Wenger was just a bit conservative. Believe in him. I think after selling those guys you should just throw 40+ million for a talented CB, there's a lot of promising youngsters on the market.

I'm reading £70 million AND Jason Denayer. I'd take it.

Ox has already been sold. Good.

Ozil, I maybe on the camp of a few where we think he's still world class. He has been on the top of the PL as far as creating chances. If Lead Foot Welbeck and Giroud were making half of those chances they missed, we're talking about a few more assists. I won't sell him unless he rejects a new deal, which we should be negotiating NOW. Need an answer before the window closes, if he declines, sell him to Dortmund.

As far as bringing in Draxler, I don't know if he would want to come to this freak show, but Riyad Mahrez will. I'd rather have Mahrez in a sense that that business could be done quicker and easier than Draxler. Not saying we shouldn't be trying though.

Still need a CDM and another defender. Will Virgil Van Dijk play for Arsenal? Would be nice. Steven N'Zonzi has a very reasonable release clause. Get him.

Lacazette
Ozil/Ramsey Mahrez
Xhaka N'zonzi
Kolasinac Bellerin at WB
Koscielny Van Dijk whoever we put here

Cech

That may not be winning the PL, but that's a fun, solid squad that could challenge the top 4. And once we have UCL football back, we can THEN attract better players again.

But yes, it all starts from selling Alexis, something we SHOULD do.
Title: Re: 2017-18 EPL Season
Post by: Sixth Man on August 28, 2017, 03:12:07 PM

If we made the Champions League having Chamakh, Bendtner, Arshavin, Denilson, Rosicky, and Alex Song in our squad, we can do it with Lacazette, Ramsey, Walcott, Giroud, Xhaka, (I think).

It's PL so everything is possible but i highly doubt it. The competition for CL spots is much higher today.

We can win the Europa League? ;-)

Yes, of course.  Look who won it last season... ;)
Title: Re: 2017-18 EPL Season
Post by: Who on August 28, 2017, 03:31:11 PM
How we get £35 million for Ox is beyond me. But hey, I'll take some good news.

http://www.skysports.com/transfer-centre

Quote
BREAKING NEWS

We understand Chelsea have agreed a fee with Arsenal for Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain. The 24-year old is currently with the England squad at St George’s Park.

It’s thought that large parts of his medical could be carried out at England’s training centre. The clubs are yet to confirm the development but it’s our understanding that an agreement between the two clubs has been reached this afternoon.

The fee is believed to be around £35m.

Good addition for Chelsea. Oxlade-Chamberlain will provide a good alternative to Victor Moses as that side midfielder / wing back role. And can serve as insurance for central midfield and the two wide attackers behind the striker. Capable of playing all roles across midfield and wide or deep forwards. Good utility player.
Title: Re: 2017-18 EPL Season
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on August 28, 2017, 07:27:00 PM
How we get £35 million for Ox is beyond me. But hey, I'll take some good news.

http://www.skysports.com/transfer-centre

Quote
BREAKING NEWS

We understand Chelsea have agreed a fee with Arsenal for Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain. The 24-year old is currently with the England squad at St George’s Park.

It’s thought that large parts of his medical could be carried out at England’s training centre. The clubs are yet to confirm the development but it’s our understanding that an agreement between the two clubs has been reached this afternoon.

The fee is believed to be around £35m.

Good addition for Chelsea. Oxlade-Chamberlain will provide a good alternative to Victor Moses as that side midfielder / wing back role. And can serve as insurance for central midfield and the two wide attackers behind the striker. Capable of playing all roles across midfield and wide or deep forwards. Good utility player.

I disagree, with all due respect, Who.

The very reason he wants to leave Arsenal is because he didn't want to play Wing Back.

The club offered him a new contract that's worth £150 - £180 K a week in wages. No way he's worth that, and he declined it because he wants to play CM, and Wenger isn't having it.

I don't know how he would like it to be the back up WB at Chelsea, and I don't know how he's going to crack that CM spot over Cesc, Bakayoko and Kante. Unless of course, if the reason he wants to leave is just because he hates Arsenal, it actually doesn't make sense for Ox to move to Chelsea.

But hey, we'll take the £35 million. Here's hoping we roll that and trigger Jean Seri's release clause.
Title: Re: 2017-18 EPL Season
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on August 30, 2017, 01:46:34 PM
Ox snubbed Chelsea, going to Liverpool.

http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/41098529

Quote
Liverpool have agreed a £40m deal to sign Arsenal and England midfielder Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain.

The 24-year-old rejected a move to Chelsea on Tuesday after a fee had been agreed.

Oxlade-Chamberlain has started each of Arsenal's four games so far this season despite telling manager Arsene Wenger he would not sign a new contract.

He has made 198 appearances for Arsenal since joining them from Southampton in August 2011.

The fee would have been Liverpool's club record deal, but the Reds have agreed to sign RB Leipzig's Naby Keita next summer for £48m.
Title: Re: 2017-18 EPL Season
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on August 30, 2017, 01:54:23 PM
So, NBC sports, with Gary Lineker, Alan Shearer, Ian Wright and Danny Murphy picked their All Premier League starting XI.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8o7D3-X-6nc

Their squad.

Peter Schmeichel

Gary Neville - Rio Ferdinand - John Terry - Ashley Cole

Cristiano Ronald0 - Steven Gerrard - Frank Lampard - Ryan Giggs

Alan Shearer - Thierry Henry


It got me interested. Can you build an All Premier League XI that can beat that team? Players that they haven't chosen.

I came up with this. (I went 4-2-3-1)

David Seaman

Branislav Ivanovic - Tony Adams - Sol Campbell - Patrice Evra

Patrick Vieira - Nemanja Matic

David Beckham - Cesc Fabregas - Robert Pires

Luis Suarez

Can my team beat the NBC team? More importantly, who's on your team?

(c'mon, we have one day left on the transfer window, and then international break, this is something to do while we wait)
Title: Re: 2017-18 EPL Season
Post by: Who on August 30, 2017, 05:30:40 PM
So, NBC sports, with Gary Lineker, Alan Shearer, Ian Wright and Danny Murphy picked their All Premier League starting XI.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8o7D3-X-6nc

Their squad.

Peter Schmeichel

Gary Neville - Rio Ferdinand - John Terry - Ashley Cole

Cristiano Ronald0 - Steven Gerrard - Frank Lampard - Ryan Giggs

Alan Shearer - Thierry Henry


It got me interested. Can you build an All Premier League XI that can beat that team? Players that they haven't chosen.

I came up with this. (I went 4-2-3-1)

David Seaman

Branislav Ivanovic - Tony Adams - Sol Campbell - Patrice Evra

Patrick Vieira - Nemanja Matic

David Beckham - Cesc Fabregas - Robert Pires

Luis Suarez

Can my team beat the NBC team? More importantly, who's on your team?

(c'mon, we have one day left on the transfer window, and then international break, this is something to do while we wait)

I'll give it a go.

Gotta have Scholes in there. Best CM to ever play in Premier League.

And Cech in goal. Cech was absolutely incredible at Chelsea before Hunt wrecked his head. Never fully recovered from that. Was still very good afterwards but he was absolutely incredible beforehand. Rivaled Buffon for best GK in the world.

GK - Petr Cech
CM - Paul Scholes

Agreed on Sol Campbell and Patrice Evra. Evra was right up there alongside Ashley Cole as the best LB in the world at their respective peaks.

DC - Sol Campbell
DL - Patrice Evra

I'll go with Vidic as Sol's partner in central defense.
And I want Keane in midfield.

DC - Nemanja Vidic
CM - Roy Keane

Agreed on Luis Suarez and I am gonna put Drogba alongside him. Two consummate team players who give everything they have and create goals both for themselves but also for others. They will help create good team-play in the final 3rd. Both put in a shift defensively too.

CF - Luis Suarez
CF - Didier Drogba

The RB position is a tough one. Not a lot of great choices there. I will go with Lauren here. Very good going forward and good defensively too. Played in midfield and was comfortable on the flank or coming inside. Good skills on the ball and good crosser.

Okay, now how to round out this team. I will go with a 4-3-1-2.

I was wondering about Patrick Vieira or whether to go with someone more attacking since I already have Roy Keane in the team ... but I gotta pick Vieira. The idea of Vieira and Keane together in midfield is mouthwatering.

And for the final pick, so many options as my playmaker. I am going to go with Dennis Bergkamp. Lethal passer in the final 3rd. Brilliant at finding runners. Can add in some goals. Great work-rate and a nasty side to him. I like a bit of a nastiness. He will help out in midfield with some defensive work.

Petr Cech

Lauren - Nemanja Vidic - Sol Campbell - Patrice Evra

Patrick Vieira - Paul Scholes - Roy Keane

Dennis Bergkamp

Luis Suarez - Didier Drogba

Toughest to leave out ...

Zola was the hardest one. I liked his mobility, dribbling and movement over the whole final 3rd over Bergkamp. Just so hard for the defense to pickup. But I went with Bergkamp for his physicality and superior creative passing.

Gareth Bale was real tempting too.

And I only just thought of Makelele. He was freakishly dominant at Chelsea but I didn't want a purely defensive midfield player. I wanted guys who could give more in attack.
Title: Re: 2017-18 EPL Season
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on August 30, 2017, 08:11:57 PM
So, NBC sports, with Gary Lineker, Alan Shearer, Ian Wright and Danny Murphy picked their All Premier League starting XI.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8o7D3-X-6nc

Their squad.

Peter Schmeichel

Gary Neville - Rio Ferdinand - John Terry - Ashley Cole

Cristiano Ronald0 - Steven Gerrard - Frank Lampard - Ryan Giggs

Alan Shearer - Thierry Henry


It got me interested. Can you build an All Premier League XI that can beat that team? Players that they haven't chosen.

I came up with this. (I went 4-2-3-1)

David Seaman

Branislav Ivanovic - Tony Adams - Sol Campbell - Patrice Evra

Patrick Vieira - Nemanja Matic

David Beckham - Cesc Fabregas - Robert Pires

Luis Suarez

Can my team beat the NBC team? More importantly, who's on your team?

(c'mon, we have one day left on the transfer window, and then international break, this is something to do while we wait)

I'll give it a go.

Gotta have Scholes in there. Best CM to ever play in Premier League.

And Cech in goal. Cech was absolutely incredible at Chelsea before Hunt wrecked his head. Never fully recovered from that. Was still very good afterwards but he was absolutely incredible beforehand. Rivaled Buffon for best GK in the world.

GK - Petr Cech
CM - Paul Scholes

Agreed on Sol Campbell and Patrice Evra. Evra was right up there alongside Ashley Cole as the best LB in the world at their respective peaks.

DC - Sol Campbell
DL - Patrice Evra

I'll go with Vidic as Sol's partner in central defense.
And I want Keane in midfield.

DC - Nemanja Vidic
CM - Roy Keane

Agreed on Luis Suarez and I am gonna put Drogba alongside him. Two consummate team players who give everything they have and create goals both for themselves but also for others. They will help create good team-play in the final 3rd. Both put in a shift defensively too.

CF - Luis Suarez
CF - Didier Drogba

The RB position is a tough one. Not a lot of great choices there. I will go with Lauren here. Very good going forward and good defensively too. Played in midfield and was comfortable on the flank or coming inside. Good skills on the ball and good crosser.

Okay, now how to round out this team. I will go with a 4-3-1-2.

I was wondering about Patrick Vieira or whether to go with someone more attacking since I already have Roy Keane in the team ... but I gotta pick Vieira. The idea of Vieira and Keane together in midfield is mouthwatering.

And for the final pick, so many options as my playmaker. I am going to go with Dennis Bergkamp. Lethal passer in the final 3rd. Brilliant at finding runners. Can add in some goals. Great work-rate and a nasty side to him. I like a bit of a nastiness. He will help out in midfield with some defensive work.

Petr Cech

Lauren - Nemanja Vidic - Sol Campbell - Patrice Evra

Patrick Vieira - Paul Scholes - Roy Keane

Dennis Bergkamp

Luis Suarez - Didier Drogba

Toughest to leave out ...

Zola was the hardest one. I liked his mobility, dribbling and movement over the whole final 3rd over Bergkamp. Just so hard for the defense to pickup. But I went with Bergkamp for his physicality and superior creative passing.

Gareth Bale was real tempting too.

And I only just thought of Makelele. He was freakishly dominant at Chelsea but I didn't want a purely defensive midfield player. I wanted guys who could give more in attack.

Love the insight.

I forgot about Paul Scholes. I feel really terrible leaving him out...
Title: Re: 2017-18 EPL Season
Post by: Jvalin on August 30, 2017, 09:40:07 PM
So, NBC sports, with Gary Lineker, Alan Shearer, Ian Wright and Danny Murphy picked their All Premier League starting XI.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8o7D3-X-6nc

Their squad.

Peter Schmeichel

Gary Neville - Rio Ferdinand - John Terry - Ashley Cole

Cristiano Ronald0 - Steven Gerrard - Frank Lampard - Ryan Giggs

Alan Shearer - Thierry Henry


It got me interested. Can you build an All Premier League XI that can beat that team? Players that they haven't chosen.

I came up with this. (I went 4-2-3-1)

David Seaman

Branislav Ivanovic - Tony Adams - Sol Campbell - Patrice Evra

Patrick Vieira - Nemanja Matic

David Beckham - Cesc Fabregas - Robert Pires

Luis Suarez

Can my team beat the NBC team? More importantly, who's on your team?

(c'mon, we have one day left on the transfer window, and then international break, this is something to do while we wait)


---------------------De Gea-------------------
Sagna-------Adams----Desailly-------Evra
Beckham----Vieira----Yaya Toure----Bale
--------------------Scholes--------------------
--------------------Suarez---------------------


4-4-1-1 (Becks was more of a right midfielder than a right winger)

Don't know which team would have won, but it would have been one hell of a game, that's for sure.

Title: Re: 2017-18 EPL Season
Post by: Who on August 31, 2017, 07:10:32 AM
Liverpool have gotten Oxlade-Chamberlain. He will do great as a box-to-box CM in that Liverpool team. Klopp gives his CMs lots of opportunities to get forward. Ox with his dribbling, athleticism and work-rate should be a hit there.

Disappointed Chelsea have missed out on Ox. Never been too high on him because of his iffy end-product but seeing what Conte has done with a similar player in Moses only makes me think of all the things Conte could've done with Ox as a wing back and utility player. Pity.

Good signing for Liverpool. Sounds like they are quite active on a few other fronts today too.

Big day for Chelsea. They need some more depth in CM and at both wing back spots.
Title: Re: 2017-18 EPL Season
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on August 31, 2017, 01:27:24 PM
I can't believe Brighton, Huddersfield and Watford, among others, are going to outspend Arsenal in a summer transfer window.

I bet there are League 1 teams that would as well.

Good God, what has happened to this club...
Title: Re: 2017-18 EPL Season
Post by: Sixth Man on September 01, 2017, 12:26:42 AM
I can't believe Brighton, Huddersfield and Watford, among others, are going to outspend Arsenal in a summer transfer window.

I bet there are League 1 teams that would as well.

Good God, what has happened to this club...

Stan Kroenke acquired 75% of Arsenal.  The downward spiral will continue for as long as he is calling the shots.  "The fish rots from the head down" as they say! 
Title: Re: 2017-18 EPL Season
Post by: LatterDayCelticsfan on September 02, 2017, 10:49:32 AM
So, NBC sports, with Gary Lineker, Alan Shearer, Ian Wright and Danny Murphy picked their All Premier League starting XI.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8o7D3-X-6nc

Their squad.

Peter Schmeichel

Gary Neville - Rio Ferdinand - John Terry - Ashley Cole

Cristiano Ronald0 - Steven Gerrard - Frank Lampard - Ryan Giggs

Alan Shearer - Thierry Henry


It got me interested. Can you build an All Premier League XI that can beat that team? Players that they haven't chosen.

I came up with this. (I went 4-2-3-1)

David Seaman

Branislav Ivanovic - Tony Adams - Sol Campbell - Patrice Evra

Patrick Vieira - Nemanja Matic

David Beckham - Cesc Fabregas - Robert Pires

Luis Suarez

Can my team beat the NBC team? More importantly, who's on your team?

(c'mon, we have one day left on the transfer window, and then international break, this is something to do while we wait)

I'll give it a go.

Gotta have Scholes in there. Best CM to ever play in Premier League.

And Cech in goal. Cech was absolutely incredible at Chelsea before Hunt wrecked his head. Never fully recovered from that. Was still very good afterwards but he was absolutely incredible beforehand. Rivaled Buffon for best GK in the world.

GK - Petr Cech
CM - Paul Scholes

Agreed on Sol Campbell and Patrice Evra. Evra was right up there alongside Ashley Cole as the best LB in the world at their respective peaks.

DC - Sol Campbell
DL - Patrice Evra

I'll go with Vidic as Sol's partner in central defense.
And I want Keane in midfield.

DC - Nemanja Vidic
CM - Roy Keane

Agreed on Luis Suarez and I am gonna put Drogba alongside him. Two consummate team players who give everything they have and create goals both for themselves but also for others. They will help create good team-play in the final 3rd. Both put in a shift defensively too.

CF - Luis Suarez
CF - Didier Drogba

The RB position is a tough one. Not a lot of great choices there. I will go with Lauren here. Very good going forward and good defensively too. Played in midfield and was comfortable on the flank or coming inside. Good skills on the ball and good crosser.

Okay, now how to round out this team. I will go with a 4-3-1-2.

I was wondering about Patrick Vieira or whether to go with someone more attacking since I already have Roy Keane in the team ... but I gotta pick Vieira. The idea of Vieira and Keane together in midfield is mouthwatering.

And for the final pick, so many options as my playmaker. I am going to go with Dennis Bergkamp. Lethal passer in the final 3rd. Brilliant at finding runners. Can add in some goals. Great work-rate and a nasty side to him. I like a bit of a nastiness. He will help out in midfield with some defensive work.

Petr Cech

Lauren - Nemanja Vidic - Sol Campbell - Patrice Evra

Patrick Vieira - Paul Scholes - Roy Keane

Dennis Bergkamp

Luis Suarez - Didier Drogba

Toughest to leave out ...

Zola was the hardest one. I liked his mobility, dribbling and movement over the whole final 3rd over Bergkamp. Just so hard for the defense to pickup. But I went with Bergkamp for his physicality and superior creative passing.

Gareth Bale was real tempting too.

And I only just thought of Makelele. He was freakishly dominant at Chelsea but I didn't want a purely defensive midfield player. I wanted guys who could give more in attack.

Love the insight.

I forgot about Paul Scholes. I feel really terrible leaving him out...

I will go with a 4-1-3-2 formation

GK: Peter Schmeichel
Back 4: Gary Neville, Rio Ferdinand, Jaap Staam, Ashley Cole,
Def Sweeper: Roy Keane
Mids: Cristiano Ronaldo, Patrick Vieira, Ryan Giggs
Forwards: Thierry Henry, Alan Shearer

Also very tempted to pick Michael Essien, Ruud van Nistelrooy, and Sol Campbell.
Title: Re: 2017-18 EPL Season
Post by: Who on September 02, 2017, 12:50:06 PM
So, NBC sports, with Gary Lineker, Alan Shearer, Ian Wright and Danny Murphy picked their All Premier League starting XI.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8o7D3-X-6nc

Their squad.

Peter Schmeichel

Gary Neville - Rio Ferdinand - John Terry - Ashley Cole

Cristiano Ronald0 - Steven Gerrard - Frank Lampard - Ryan Giggs

Alan Shearer - Thierry Henry


It got me interested. Can you build an All Premier League XI that can beat that team? Players that they haven't chosen.

I came up with this. (I went 4-2-3-1)

David Seaman

Branislav Ivanovic - Tony Adams - Sol Campbell - Patrice Evra

Patrick Vieira - Nemanja Matic

David Beckham - Cesc Fabregas - Robert Pires

Luis Suarez

Can my team beat the NBC team? More importantly, who's on your team?

(c'mon, we have one day left on the transfer window, and then international break, this is something to do while we wait)

I'll give it a go.

Petr Cech

Lauren - Nemanja Vidic - Sol Campbell - Patrice Evra

Patrick Vieira - Paul Scholes - Roy Keane

Dennis Bergkamp

Luis Suarez - Didier Drogba


I will go with a 4-1-3-2 formation

GK: Peter Schmeichel
Back 4: Gary Neville, Rio Ferdinand, Jaap Staam, Ashley Cole,
Def Sweeper: Roy Keane
Mids: Cristiano Ronaldo, Patrick Vieira, Ryan Giggs
Forwards: Thierry Henry, Alan Shearer

Also very tempted to pick Michael Essien, Ruud van Nistelrooy, and Sol Campbell.

---------------------De Gea-------------------
Sagna-------Adams----Desailly-------Evra
Beckham----Vieira----Yaya Toure----Bale
--------------------Scholes--------------------
--------------------Suarez---------------------


4-4-1-1 (Becks was more of a right midfielder than a right winger)

Don't know which team would have won, but it would have been one hell of a game, that's for sure.


That was so much fun the first time ... I am going to give it a 2nd team with all different choices.

And I have to have one with Ruud Van Nistelrooy in it. Best pure goal-scorer the premier league has seen. Needs someone alongside him to link the play though. To keep the team flowing in attack. And nobody has done that better than Eric Cantona. So my front two are:

ST - Ruud Van Nistelrooy
SS - Eric Cantona

I completely forgot about Yaya Toure last time around. I was looking for a more attacking CM to put alongside Scholes and Keane and my mind went blank after Lamps and Gerrard. So Yaya has to be in this team and I am going to put Makelele in there alongside him to look after the defense and give Yaya some freedom to go forward.

I am going to go with a 442 and will use Becks and Pires as my wide players. Beckham with his outstanding delivery, high work-rate and ability to tuck in and give some extra defensive work when Yaya has gone too far forward is perfect for the team. Van Nistelrooy will love Beckham's crosses. I'll take Pires over Giggs. Pires was the better footballer. Giggs was outstanding for the length of time he maintained such high levels but he never reached as high a peak as Pires did. Pires was incredible for that Arsenal team as a roaming playmaker off the flank. He will combine well with Cantona and make sure the team has plenty of creativity and imagination to it's attack.

RM - David Beckham
CM - Claude Makelele
CM - Yaya Toure
LM - Robert Pires

And now 4 new defenders and a new keeper.

Jaap Stam is a super choice. 3 incredible seasons with Man Utd. Three straight league titles and won the treble in his first season at the club. I am going to go with Ricardo Carvalho as his partner in defense. Great composure in defense and could bring the ball out of the back well too. Lee Dixon will be my RB for all his years as a steady player in that legendary back four of Arsenal in the 90s. And Dennis Irwin as my LB. Mr Dependable. The GK will be Edwin van der Sar.

GK - Edwin van der Sar

DR - Lee Dixon
DC - Jaap Stam
DC - Ricardo Carvalho
DL - Dennis Irwin

Van der Sar

Lee Dixon - Jaap Stam - Ricardo Carvalho - Dennis Irwin

David Beckham - Yaya Toure - Claude Makelele - Robert Pires

Eric Cantona - Ruud Van Nistelrooy
Title: Re: 2017-18 EPL Season
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on October 01, 2017, 06:06:35 PM
Arsenal has taken over Liverpool above the table.

Ever since we sold them Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain, they have been horrendous and we've been on fine form.

Thanks for the £40 million, Liverpool.
Title: Re: 2017-18 EPL Season
Post by: Sixth Man on October 02, 2017, 01:08:38 PM
Arsenal has taken over Liverpool above the table.

Ever since we sold them Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain, they have been horrendous and we've been on fine form.

Thanks for the £40 million, Liverpool.

And at City, we've won nine and drawn one since you pulled the plug on the Alexis sale and we are in first place in the table.

Thanks for saving us the £55 million, Arsenal (we can just sign him for free in the summer!).   ;)
Title: Re: 2017-18 EPL Season
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on October 03, 2017, 02:46:05 PM
Arsenal has taken over Liverpool above the table.

Ever since we sold them Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain, they have been horrendous and we've been on fine form.

Thanks for the £40 million, Liverpool.

And at City, we've won nine and drawn one since you pulled the plug on the Alexis sale and we are in first place in the table.

Thanks for saving us the £55 million, Arsenal (we can just sign him for free in the summer!).   ;)

I'll see you on November 5th. Lacazette is enjoying his time with Alexis Sanchez, Alexis now has reasons to stay.

http://www.skysports.com/football/news/15118/11063599/alexis-sanchez-and-alexandre-lacazette-developing-promising-partnership-for-arsenal

On a serious note, I hated that we didn't sell Alexis to you guys. It was the right move. I understand trying to find a replacement for him, but then why didn't we do it early in the window?

Our transfer policy is absolute poop.
Title: Re: 2017-18 EPL Season
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on October 03, 2017, 02:47:23 PM
Take it for what it's worth.

Quote
BARCELONA president Josep Maria Bartomeu has confirmed the La Liga leaders are considering playing outside of Spain should Catalonia gain independence which could see them trying to join the Premier League.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/4597111/barcelona-president-josep-maria-bartomeu-confirms-club-considering-leaving-la-liga/

Also, Wenger weighed in, saying that Scottish teams should be able to join PL first before Barca.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-4941480/Wenger-Scottish-clubs-join-EPL-Barcelona.html

I say why not all of them? Celtic, Rangers and Barca on the same year.

How do you think Barca would do in the PL? Or Celtic and Rangers?
Title: Re: 2017-18 EPL Season
Post by: ederson on October 04, 2017, 07:45:40 AM
Take it for what it's worth.

Quote
BARCELONA president Josep Maria Bartomeu has confirmed the La Liga leaders are considering playing outside of Spain should Catalonia gain independence which could see them trying to join the Premier League.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/4597111/barcelona-president-josep-maria-bartomeu-confirms-club-considering-leaving-la-liga/

Also, Wenger weighed in, saying that Scottish teams should be able to join PL first before Barca.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-4941480/Wenger-Scottish-clubs-join-EPL-Barcelona.html

I say why not all of them? Celtic, Rangers and Barca on the same year.

How do you think Barca would do in the PL? Or Celtic and Rangers?

I find it ridiculous  but it is not like it hasn't happened before.

But if Barcelona tries to join EPL or any other league than the local Catalonian then they should realy remove the motto "Més que un club"
Title: Re: 2017-18 EPL Season
Post by: Sixth Man on October 04, 2017, 07:04:28 PM
Arsenal has taken over Liverpool above the table.

Ever since we sold them Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain, they have been horrendous and we've been on fine form.

Thanks for the £40 million, Liverpool.

And at City, we've won nine and drawn one since you pulled the plug on the Alexis sale and we are in first place in the table.

Thanks for saving us the £55 million, Arsenal (we can just sign him for free in the summer!).   ;)

I'll see you on November 5th. Lacazette is enjoying his time with Alexis Sanchez, Alexis now has reasons to stay.

http://www.skysports.com/football/news/15118/11063599/alexis-sanchez-and-alexandre-lacazette-developing-promising-partnership-for-arsenal

On a serious note, I hated that we didn't sell Alexis to you guys. It was the right move. I understand trying to find a replacement for him, but then why didn't we do it early in the window?

Our transfer policy is absolute poop.

Well, Yoki, since you took the time and effort to troll Liverpool, I thought you might enjoy the same treatment yourself.  I'm sure you are REALLY looking forward to meeting City on 11.05.2017! 

Sanchez and Lacazette can develop all the close bonds they want, but if the former wishes to be involved in CL play next season, he'd best move on to a bigger club with real ambition, 'cause Arsenal are quite literally the opposite of that.  A move to City, United or Spurs would do the trick...

Title: Re: 2017-18 EPL Season
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on October 05, 2017, 01:12:25 PM
Arsenal has taken over Liverpool above the table.

Ever since we sold them Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain, they have been horrendous and we've been on fine form.

Thanks for the £40 million, Liverpool.

And at City, we've won nine and drawn one since you pulled the plug on the Alexis sale and we are in first place in the table.

Thanks for saving us the £55 million, Arsenal (we can just sign him for free in the summer!).   ;)

I'll see you on November 5th. Lacazette is enjoying his time with Alexis Sanchez, Alexis now has reasons to stay.

http://www.skysports.com/football/news/15118/11063599/alexis-sanchez-and-alexandre-lacazette-developing-promising-partnership-for-arsenal

On a serious note, I hated that we didn't sell Alexis to you guys. It was the right move. I understand trying to find a replacement for him, but then why didn't we do it early in the window?

Our transfer policy is absolute poop.

Well, Yoki, since you took the time and effort to troll Liverpool, I thought you might enjoy the same treatment yourself.  I'm sure you are REALLY looking forward to meeting City on 11.05.2017! 

Sanchez and Lacazette can develop all the close bonds they want, but if the former wishes to be involved in CL play next season, he'd best move on to a bigger club with real ambition, 'cause Arsenal are quite literally the opposite of that.  A move to City, United or Spurs would do the trick...

I can't agree more with everything you said.

It's starts from the top. Stan Kroenke is just not invested in the club to win, just here to make money so he can finance the LA Rams.

Arsene Wenger is so obsessed with total control that it has been the detriment of the team for, atleast since Ozil came in (we could make the case that he had no resources in the banter era). The fact that he's against having a director of football to help him manage the transfer policy shows that he wants, and is still in charge of everything football related, and all the thing he do has been out of date.

I've already prepared for an Ozil and Sanchez exodus. All I wish for are a few things...

- Resign Jack Wilshere and he stays healthy. If both happens, we cover the position that Ozil will leave with him. Or he could be playing the deep CM role that Ramsey plays and Rambo goes forward. Either way, he can handle it, and only 25. He's still a top quality talent. Just needs to stay fit.

- That £40 million we made from the Ox sale be used to buy an Alexis replacement, either in the January window or in the summer. Riyad Mahrez is still angling for a move away from Leicester, he should be good enough, and that money should be enough to get him. Maybe another defender to replace Per and eventually Koscielny (there's a Ligue 2 defender that we are being liked to, hope we get him).

- CL spot. I like our chances. We should be a well rested squad the rest of the way, being able to put in practically a different XI in Europa League fixtures, that should bode well for a Top 4 run. We will definitely not win the league this year, Manchester City is just nuts (still not buying United, not until they play top competition).

- Play Reiss Nelson at his preferred position, behind the striker. He's not a RWB, and I fear that it will stunt his development if we keep playing him there. Kid is special, but has to play to his strengths. If we can't do it, we should loan him to a team that can provide him that spot to gain experience.

- KEEP SEAD KOLASINAC! I won't be surprised if bigger clubs would want him if he continues to play like he does.

With all that said, indeed, we are a big club who's not acting like one. And the fact that these are the things I'm hoping for instead of winning the league should suggest it.

Tough being a fan of Arsenal, really.
Title: Re: 2017-18 EPL Season
Post by: Sixth Man on October 05, 2017, 04:34:37 PM
These are tough times, right now, but there is reason for hope.  The scary thing about Kroenke is he's always had the dosh, and now he's swimming in it, as his big LA project will be the biggest moneymaking scheme to hit the NFL in decades, so there is no reason why he cannot right now.  That he didn't cash in on Alexis and Mesut this summer is an indication of that.  He needs to fish or cut bait, as he's sitting on top of Usmanov, a guy who has real ambition for the club.

Lacazette is a great signing for Arsenal (what took so long?!), but other parts of the squad need rebuilding to compete for the next 3-5 seasons.  Kola is a monster at LB, absolute keeper, as he'll only improve as he adjusts to the PL, but two new CB's should be brought in to mix with Mustafi.  A long-term keeper is also required. 

Please forget about Wilshere, you'll regret it if you sign him long-term.  It's kind of like City's current fascination with ever-crocked players like Kompany, Gundogan and Delph.  I think my City will really struggle to win the title because Pep blew the summer window by leaving himself with a threadbare squad and multiple players who are "passengers" due to age or constant injuries. 

The biggest question is who replaces Wenger?  It's time for Arsenal to move on and bring in a young manager with a vision for how Arsenal will play.  I hope the style of play remains, however, as your lads play beautiful football when they're in form.  I'd go with a foreign manager, but if you really want a Brit, maybe Brendan Rodgers is someone to consider.
Title: Re: 2017-18 EPL Season
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on October 05, 2017, 08:38:25 PM
No, man, I'm not giving up on Jack Wilshere, the home grown hero. The dude is quality. Just needs to be fit. It maybe a losing battle to expect Wilshere to stay healthy, but we can't lose both him and Ozil on the same summer, especially with our transfer policy being bad. If we can't find a replacement for Ozil in the transfer market, he's the best option we have. Iwobi is not ready to take that role, and Ramsey can't supply the passes that Ozil and, to some extent, Jack does.

I agree with the CB issue, in fact, I would raise it and say that we SHOULD let Mustafi go to Inter Milan if they really want him. I just don't think he's disciplined enough. Goes to the ground way too much. Koscielny should still have two good years in him. Monreal, for some reason, is holding his own at CB on the left side. That should keep us in check for atleast a couple more years, but yes, buying a CB is a must.

I really don't know who's going to replace Wenger. One could assume that he might sign another two year deal after this two year deal is over...
Title: Re: 2017-18 EPL Season
Post by: Sixth Man on October 05, 2017, 11:07:08 PM
No, man, I'm not giving up on Jack Wilshere, the home grown hero. The dude is quality. Just needs to be fit. It maybe a losing battle to expect Wilshere to stay healthy, but we can't lose both him and Ozil on the same summer, especially with our transfer policy being bad. If we can't find a replacement for Ozil in the transfer market, he's the best option we have. Iwobi is not ready to take that role, and Ramsey can't supply the passes that Ozil and, to some extent, Jack does.

I agree with the CB issue, in fact, I would raise it and say that we SHOULD let Mustafi go to Inter Milan if they really want him. I just don't think he's disciplined enough. Goes to the ground way too much. Koscielny should still have two good years in him. Monreal, for some reason, is holding his own at CB on the left side. That should keep us in check for atleast a couple more years, but yes, buying a CB is a must.

I really don't know who's going to replace Wenger. One could assume that he might sign another two year deal after this two year deal is over...

I like Monreal as a LB, not really as a CB.  Mustafi can be trained to not go to ground too quickly; Nico Otamendi had the same glaring problem for some time at City but now is standing tall.  Also like Ramsey a lot, but you're welcome to spend ££ to sign Wilshere to a long-term deal, if you like!

Wenger is "yesterday's man" as the sport has passed him by.  If you want a truly world-class manager, I hear Carlo Ancelotti is available...
Title: Re: 2017-18 EPL Season
Post by: Somebody on October 05, 2017, 11:48:52 PM
Wow the disrespect at United is insane, I mean yes we did not play against top tier competition but we truly dominated teams, if United isn't a contender then it's only City that's a championship team. Also Arsenal will be fine, Wenger is a pretty good manager. You guys still have a good mix of players and Kroenke can now spend some cash.
Title: Re: 2017-18 EPL Season
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on October 06, 2017, 08:54:11 AM
Wow the disrespect at United is insane, I mean yes we did not play against top tier competition but we truly dominated teams, if United isn't a contender then it's only City that's a championship team. Also Arsenal will be fine, Wenger is a pretty good manager. You guys still have a good mix of players and Kroenke can now spend some cash.

Its not disrespect. We all know what a threat Man United could be, but it is fair to say that it's yet to be seen if they are legitimate or not as they have not faced a top 6 opponent yet. Everton and Leicester are probably the only two "good teams" you guys have faced so far. That's compare to City who has already trashed Liverpool and got three points vs Chelsea.

Title: Re: 2017-18 EPL Season
Post by: Somebody on October 06, 2017, 10:05:13 AM
Wow the disrespect at United is insane, I mean yes we did not play against top tier competition but we truly dominated teams, if United isn't a contender then it's only City that's a championship team. Also Arsenal will be fine, Wenger is a pretty good manager. You guys still have a good mix of players and Kroenke can now spend some cash.

Its not disrespect. We all know what a threat Man United could be, but it is fair to say that it's yet to be seen if they are legitimate or not as they have not faced a top 6 opponent yet. Everton and Leicester are probably the only two "good teams" you guys have faced so far. That's compare to City who has already trashed Liverpool and got three points vs Chelsea.
The former playing most of the game with 10 men and the latter being worn out due to a thin team and ****ty offense when their key cogs are tired or out. Obviously City are the favourites but United should be considered as legitimate if you're counting teams like Tottenham and Chelsea too.
Title: Re: 2017-18 EPL Season
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on October 06, 2017, 11:16:26 AM
Wow the disrespect at United is insane, I mean yes we did not play against top tier competition but we truly dominated teams, if United isn't a contender then it's only City that's a championship team. Also Arsenal will be fine, Wenger is a pretty good manager. You guys still have a good mix of players and Kroenke can now spend some cash.

Its not disrespect. We all know what a threat Man United could be, but it is fair to say that it's yet to be seen if they are legitimate or not as they have not faced a top 6 opponent yet. Everton and Leicester are probably the only two "good teams" you guys have faced so far. That's compare to City who has already trashed Liverpool and got three points vs Chelsea.
The former playing most of the game with 10 men and the latter being worn out due to a thin team and ****ty offense when their key cogs are tired or out. Obviously City are the favourites but United should be considered as legitimate if you're counting teams like Tottenham and Chelsea too.

Fair.

I do want to ask, what do you make of these Ozil to United rumors?


I do see the potential Mourinho - Ozil reunion, but isn't your midfield too crowded already to add Ozil?

- Pogba
- Mhkitaryan
- Herrera
- Fellaini
- Mata
- Danilo

I don't know how he will fit in that already crowded Central Midfield spot.
Title: Re: 2017-18 EPL Season
Post by: Sixth Man on October 06, 2017, 06:21:41 PM
Wow the disrespect at United is insane, I mean yes we did not play against top tier competition but we truly dominated teams, if United isn't a contender then it's only City that's a championship team. Also Arsenal will be fine, Wenger is a pretty good manager. You guys still have a good mix of players and Kroenke can now spend some cash.

No disrespect to Chelsea intended, great champions last season, but I feel United and likely Spurs are the clubs City must worry about.  City and United are tied on points at the top because they've both been tremendous.  The table doesn't lie, as they say...
Title: Re: 2017-18 EPL Season
Post by: Somebody on October 07, 2017, 03:47:52 AM
Wow the disrespect at United is insane, I mean yes we did not play against top tier competition but we truly dominated teams, if United isn't a contender then it's only City that's a championship team. Also Arsenal will be fine, Wenger is a pretty good manager. You guys still have a good mix of players and Kroenke can now spend some cash.

Its not disrespect. We all know what a threat Man United could be, but it is fair to say that it's yet to be seen if they are legitimate or not as they have not faced a top 6 opponent yet. Everton and Leicester are probably the only two "good teams" you guys have faced so far. That's compare to City who has already trashed Liverpool and got three points vs Chelsea.
The former playing most of the game with 10 men and the latter being worn out due to a thin team and ****ty offense when their key cogs are tired or out. Obviously City are the favourites but United should be considered as legitimate if you're counting teams like Tottenham and Chelsea too.

Fair.

I do want to ask, what do you make of these Ozil to United rumors?


I do see the potential Mourinho - Ozil reunion, but isn't your midfield too crowded already to add Ozil?

- Pogba
- Mhkitaryan
- Herrera
- Fellaini
- Mata
- Danilo

I don't know how he will fit in that already crowded Central Midfield spot.
Haha this is where you don't know our biggest hole-RW. Ozil is projected to slot in at the right wing spot, where only Mata, Micki and Lingard can play and are all terribly inconsistent or are more suited to play CM. These rumours are very much true imo and I'm salivating at the prospect of Ozil coming to United, although I hope he can be a bit more consistent (I noticed that he goes invisible often). Also I don't think we have a Danilo on our team, you might be mistaking him for Matic and Carrick?
Title: Re: 2017-18 EPL Season
Post by: Somebody on October 07, 2017, 03:48:38 AM
Wow the disrespect at United is insane, I mean yes we did not play against top tier competition but we truly dominated teams, if United isn't a contender then it's only City that's a championship team. Also Arsenal will be fine, Wenger is a pretty good manager. You guys still have a good mix of players and Kroenke can now spend some cash.

No disrespect to Chelsea intended, great champions last season, but I feel United and likely Spurs are the clubs City must worry about.  City and United are tied on points at the top because they've both been tremendous.  The table doesn't lie, as they say...
Yeah and United has a tendency to play direct against strong teams, which is City's weakness.
Title: Re: 2017-18 EPL Season
Post by: Sixth Man on October 07, 2017, 03:15:53 PM
Wow the disrespect at United is insane, I mean yes we did not play against top tier competition but we truly dominated teams, if United isn't a contender then it's only City that's a championship team. Also Arsenal will be fine, Wenger is a pretty good manager. You guys still have a good mix of players and Kroenke can now spend some cash.

No disrespect to Chelsea intended, great champions last season, but I feel United and likely Spurs are the clubs City must worry about.  City and United are tied on points at the top because they've both been tremendous.  The table doesn't lie, as they say...
Yeah and United has a tendency to play direct against strong teams, which is City's weakness.

I think the high press, if ferocious, can discombobulate City.  When the derby arrives, I will be curious as to the possession and goal shot stats. 
Title: Re: 2017-18 EPL Season
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on October 07, 2017, 03:57:45 PM
Wow the disrespect at United is insane, I mean yes we did not play against top tier competition but we truly dominated teams, if United isn't a contender then it's only City that's a championship team. Also Arsenal will be fine, Wenger is a pretty good manager. You guys still have a good mix of players and Kroenke can now spend some cash.

Its not disrespect. We all know what a threat Man United could be, but it is fair to say that it's yet to be seen if they are legitimate or not as they have not faced a top 6 opponent yet. Everton and Leicester are probably the only two "good teams" you guys have faced so far. That's compare to City who has already trashed Liverpool and got three points vs Chelsea.
The former playing most of the game with 10 men and the latter being worn out due to a thin team and ****ty offense when their key cogs are tired or out. Obviously City are the favourites but United should be considered as legitimate if you're counting teams like Tottenham and Chelsea too.

Fair.

I do want to ask, what do you make of these Ozil to United rumors?


I do see the potential Mourinho - Ozil reunion, but isn't your midfield too crowded already to add Ozil?

- Pogba
- Mhkitaryan
- Herrera
- Fellaini
- Mata
- Danilo

I don't know how he will fit in that already crowded Central Midfield spot.
Haha this is where you don't know our biggest hole-RW. Ozil is projected to slot in at the right wing spot, where only Mata, Micki and Lingard can play and are all terribly inconsistent or are more suited to play CM. These rumours are very much true imo and I'm salivating at the prospect of Ozil coming to United, although I hope he can be a bit more consistent (I noticed that he goes invisible often). Also I don't think we have a Danilo on our team, you might be mistaking him for Matic and Carrick?

Yeah, I may have mistaken Danilo. He was in City, not United.

And I forgot about Matic, Jesus...

Ozil at the right? But he's left footed... Why can't it be Mkhitaryan on the right and Ozil in the Central attacking role?
Title: Re: 2017-18 EPL Season
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on October 14, 2017, 11:50:03 AM
Jesus Christ, Manchester City.

Have mercy on the rest of the Premier League, will you...
Title: Re: 2017-18 EPL Season
Post by: Somebody on October 14, 2017, 12:03:00 PM
Wow the disrespect at United is insane, I mean yes we did not play against top tier competition but we truly dominated teams, if United isn't a contender then it's only City that's a championship team. Also Arsenal will be fine, Wenger is a pretty good manager. You guys still have a good mix of players and Kroenke can now spend some cash.

Its not disrespect. We all know what a threat Man United could be, but it is fair to say that it's yet to be seen if they are legitimate or not as they have not faced a top 6 opponent yet. Everton and Leicester are probably the only two "good teams" you guys have faced so far. That's compare to City who has already trashed Liverpool and got three points vs Chelsea.
The former playing most of the game with 10 men and the latter being worn out due to a thin team and ****ty offense when their key cogs are tired or out. Obviously City are the favourites but United should be considered as legitimate if you're counting teams like Tottenham and Chelsea too.

Fair.

I do want to ask, what do you make of these Ozil to United rumors?


I do see the potential Mourinho - Ozil reunion, but isn't your midfield too crowded already to add Ozil?

- Pogba
- Mhkitaryan
- Herrera
- Fellaini
- Mata
- Danilo

I don't know how he will fit in that already crowded Central Midfield spot.
Haha this is where you don't know our biggest hole-RW. Ozil is projected to slot in at the right wing spot, where only Mata, Micki and Lingard can play and are all terribly inconsistent or are more suited to play CM. These rumours are very much true imo and I'm salivating at the prospect of Ozil coming to United, although I hope he can be a bit more consistent (I noticed that he goes invisible often). Also I don't think we have a Danilo on our team, you might be mistaking him for Matic and Carrick?

Yeah, I may have mistaken Danilo. He was in City, not United.

And I forgot about Matic, Jesus...

Ozil at the right? But he's left footed... Why can't it be Mkhitaryan on the right and Ozil in the Central attacking role?
Because Micki is utter trash when he's not "on", I'd prefer to minimize the time he plays, dude caused us to draw tonight, although I'd have to say I'm happy with one point with so many injuries.
Title: Re: 2017-18 EPL Season
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on October 14, 2017, 02:44:49 PM
...we suck.

Pitiful, Arsenal is just pitiful. No heart, no sense of urgency, just nothing.

Title: Re: 2017-18 EPL Season
Post by: Somebody on October 14, 2017, 10:52:06 PM
...we suck.

Pitiful, Arsenal is just pitiful. No heart, no sense of urgency, just nothing.
We could use Ozil rn, we just need somebody to play CM or RW who's not named Micki. Our offense is stagnating with only Valencia being able to play offense on the right.
Title: Re: 2017-18 EPL Season
Post by: Somebody on October 14, 2017, 10:57:26 PM
Wow the disrespect at United is insane, I mean yes we did not play against top tier competition but we truly dominated teams, if United isn't a contender then it's only City that's a championship team. Also Arsenal will be fine, Wenger is a pretty good manager. You guys still have a good mix of players and Kroenke can now spend some cash.

No disrespect to Chelsea intended, great champions last season, but I feel United and likely Spurs are the clubs City must worry about.  City and United are tied on points at the top because they've both been tremendous.  The table doesn't lie, as they say...
Yeah and United has a tendency to play direct against strong teams, which is City's weakness.

I think the high press, if ferocious, can discombobulate City.  When the derby arrives, I will be curious as to the possession and goal shot stats.
I just hope that Fellaini and Pogba will be back, they're key to disrupting the City engine.
Desired lineup:
GK: Bus Driver DeGea
RB:Valencia
CB: Bailly, Lindelof
LB: Shaw
CDM: Matic, Pogba
RW: Lingard
CAM: Fellaini
LW: Martial
ST: Lukaku
This lineup should be interesting as we should be able to disrupt City's offense and be able to take advantage of them being short on the other end.
Title: Re: 2017-18 EPL Season
Post by: Sixth Man on October 15, 2017, 03:21:14 PM
Jesus Christ, Manchester City.

Have mercy on the rest of the Premier League, will you...

Not a chance.  Sorry about that, but it took 10 wins in 11 matches to pull ahead of United, so no room for slacking off.
Title: Re: 2017-18 EPL Season
Post by: Somebody on October 16, 2017, 12:33:54 AM
Jesus Christ, Manchester City.

Have mercy on the rest of the Premier League, will you...

Not a chance.  Sorry about that, but it took 10 wins in 11 matches to pull ahead of United, so no room for slacking off.
Haha you guys will probably pull ahead a bit more rn but watch out when we get Pogba, MVP Fellaini, Ibra, Rojo and Shaw back.
Title: Re: 2017-18 EPL Season
Post by: Sixth Man on October 16, 2017, 02:06:53 PM
Jesus Christ, Manchester City.

Have mercy on the rest of the Premier League, will you...

Not a chance.  Sorry about that, but it took 10 wins in 11 matches to pull ahead of United, so no room for slacking off.
Haha you guys will probably pull ahead a bit more rn but watch out when we get Pogba, MVP Fellaini, Ibra, Rojo and Shaw back.

See you at Old Trafford on December 9th... :)  By the way, that was a rather insipid performance against Pool on Saturday.  Are you fine with the formation and tactics Mou employed?  I was stunned that he played for a draw on the road.  He'll say it was a point earned, not two spurned, but a side of United's caliber could have gone to Anfield and taken all three points. 
Title: Re: 2017-18 EPL Season
Post by: Somebody on October 17, 2017, 04:04:59 AM
Jesus Christ, Manchester City.

Have mercy on the rest of the Premier League, will you...

Not a chance.  Sorry about that, but it took 10 wins in 11 matches to pull ahead of United, so no room for slacking off.
Haha you guys will probably pull ahead a bit more rn but watch out when we get Pogba, MVP Fellaini, Ibra, Rojo and Shaw back.

See you at Old Trafford on December 9th... :)  By the way, that was a rather insipid performance against Pool on Saturday.  Are you fine with the formation and tactics Mou employed?  I was stunned that he played for a draw on the road.  He'll say it was a point earned, not two spurned, but a side of United's caliber could have gone to Anfield and taken all three points.
Haha see you at Old Trafford in December. I actually liked what Mou did in the slums of Liverpool :), it's easy to forget that we have CL coming up and we're facing a feisty Huddersfield after that. There will also be fixtures against Chelsea and Tottenham coming in the next few weeks as well, not to mention that we have Ibra, Pogba, MVP Fellaini, Rojo, Carrick and Shaw out. Also we would've won if Lukaku either passed to Martial or made that freebie :'(
Title: Re: 2017-18 EPL Season
Post by: Somebody on October 21, 2017, 11:55:04 AM
We really need Pogba and Fellaini back, Herrera and Matic just aren't cutting it in the midfield. Also the refball was spectacular in this game, Mou seems to get refballed in the PL all the time.
Title: Re: 2017-18 EPL Season
Post by: Who on October 21, 2017, 01:12:25 PM
Delighted to see Mourinho to lose to Hudderfield after his negative display at Liverpool.
Title: Re: 2017-18 EPL Season
Post by: Sixth Man on October 21, 2017, 07:52:45 PM
Delighted to see Mourinho to lose to Hudderfield after his negative display at Liverpool.

Wonderful, wasn't it? 
Title: Re: 2017-18 EPL Season
Post by: Somebody on October 21, 2017, 10:07:49 PM
Delighted to see Mourinho to lose to Hudderfield after his negative display at Liverpool.

Wonderful, wasn't it?
Wasn't for me, our right side is just horrid rn with no good youngster aside from Lingard on it, also the midfield wasn't good enough without Pogba and Fellaini. As for Lindelof...he was absolutely terrible but he needed the experience, he's still very very raw and I hope he can improve as the season progresses.
Title: Re: 2017-18 EPL Season
Post by: Sixth Man on October 22, 2017, 02:59:32 AM
Delighted to see Mourinho to lose to Hudderfield after his negative display at Liverpool.

Wonderful, wasn't it?
Wasn't for me, our right side is just horrid rn with no good youngster aside from Lingard on it, also the midfield wasn't good enough without Pogba and Fellaini. As for Lindelof...he was absolutely terrible but he needed the experience, he's still very very raw and I hope he can improve as the season progresses.

So, no quadruple this season?! ;D  Your manager seems more interested in managing PSG than United recently.  Maybe that's a blessing in disguise?
Title: Re: 2017-18 EPL Season
Post by: Somebody on October 22, 2017, 03:26:33 AM
Delighted to see Mourinho to lose to Hudderfield after his negative display at Liverpool.

Wonderful, wasn't it?
Wasn't for me, our right side is just horrid rn with no good youngster aside from Lingard on it, also the midfield wasn't good enough without Pogba and Fellaini. As for Lindelof...he was absolutely terrible but he needed the experience, he's still very very raw and I hope he can improve as the season progresses.

So, no quadruple this season?! ;D  Your manager seems more interested in managing PSG than United recently.  Maybe that's a blessing in disguise?
It definitely isn't, I want Mou to manage United. We just need a right wing that's consistent and our guys to stop getting injured from walks to the toilet. Also we're gonna knock you guys off your perch 8)
Title: Re: 2017-18 EPL Season
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on October 22, 2017, 10:40:56 AM
How can Everton spend this much money and be this bad. I was so wrong about them. I thought at least they'd challenge a high table finish.

Ronald Koeman...
Title: Re: 2017-18 EPL Season
Post by: Sixth Man on October 22, 2017, 07:27:57 PM
How can Everton spend this much money and be this bad. I was so wrong about them. I thought at least they'd challenge a high table finish.

Ronald Koeman...

Congrats on a great win today, Yoki.  Everton should stay the course with Koeman, IMHO. 
Title: Re: 2017-18 EPL Season
Post by: Sixth Man on October 22, 2017, 07:29:14 PM
Delighted to see Mourinho to lose to Hudderfield after his negative display at Liverpool.

Wonderful, wasn't it?
Wasn't for me, our right side is just horrid rn with no good youngster aside from Lingard on it, also the midfield wasn't good enough without Pogba and Fellaini. As for Lindelof...he was absolutely terrible but he needed the experience, he's still very very raw and I hope he can improve as the season progresses.

So, no quadruple this season?! ;D  Your manager seems more interested in managing PSG than United recently.  Maybe that's a blessing in disguise?
It definitely isn't, I want Mou to manage United. We just need a right wing that's consistent and our guys to stop getting injured from walks to the toilet. Also we're gonna knock you guys off your perch 8)

That fixture has been switched from Dec. 9 to Dec. 10, a Sunday.  For now, you should worry about Spurs, who have caught United for a share of 2nd in the table. 
Title: Re: 2017-18 EPL Season
Post by: Somebody on October 22, 2017, 07:43:00 PM
Delighted to see Mourinho to lose to Hudderfield after his negative display at Liverpool.

Wonderful, wasn't it?
Wasn't for me, our right side is just horrid rn with no good youngster aside from Lingard on it, also the midfield wasn't good enough without Pogba and Fellaini. As for Lindelof...he was absolutely terrible but he needed the experience, he's still very very raw and I hope he can improve as the season progresses.

So, no quadruple this season?! ;D  Your manager seems more interested in managing PSG than United recently.  Maybe that's a blessing in disguise?
It definitely isn't, I want Mou to manage United. We just need a right wing that's consistent and our guys to stop getting injured from walks to the toilet. Also we're gonna knock you guys off your perch 8)

That fixture has been switched from Dec. 9 to Dec. 10, a Sunday.  For now, you should worry about Spurs, who have caught United for a share of 2nd in the table.
The Spurs match next week will probably be another fun bus parking unless Fellaini and Bailly return.
Title: Re: 2017-18 EPL Season
Post by: Somebody on October 28, 2017, 10:48:46 AM
I LOVE THE BUS! MARTIAL IS ON FIRE!
Title: Re: 2017-18 EPL Season
Post by: Somebody on November 05, 2017, 02:36:31 AM
Congratulations to Liverpool fans for winning both games this week in the CL and PL.
Title: Re: 2017-18 EPL Season
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on November 05, 2017, 10:17:21 AM
Arsene Wenger:

"Sometimes the best defence is to attack."

also Arsene Wenger:

I will sit Alexandre Lacazette on the bench.


Seriously...
Title: Re: 2017-18 EPL Season
Post by: Somebody on November 05, 2017, 10:52:05 AM
Arsene Wenger:

"Sometimes the best defence is to attack."

also Arsene Wenger:

I will sit Alexandre Lacazette on the bench.


Seriously...
This match has nothing to do on Wenger, the EPL should try to find out whether the ref has gambled on the match.
Title: Re: 2017-18 EPL Season
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on November 05, 2017, 10:59:07 AM
Arsene Wenger:

"Sometimes the best defence is to attack."

also Arsene Wenger:

I will sit Alexandre Lacazette on the bench.


Seriously...
This match has nothing to do on Wenger, the EPL should try to find out whether the ref has gambled on the match.

Yep. Especially that linesman who was sleeping, not calling an offside infraction that resulted in the 3rd goal.

I mean, City pretty much outplayed us regardless, they missed so many chances, this could have been easily 5-1. But still, you cannot be that reckless with your officiating. That just took all momentum (or what's left of it) from us.
Title: Re: 2017-18 EPL Season
Post by: Somebody on November 05, 2017, 07:04:43 PM
Arsene Wenger:

"Sometimes the best defence is to attack."

also Arsene Wenger:

I will sit Alexandre Lacazette on the bench.


Seriously...
This match has nothing to do on Wenger, the EPL should try to find out whether the ref has gambled on the match.

Yep. Especially that linesman who was sleeping, not calling an offside infraction that resulted in the 3rd goal.

I mean, City pretty much outplayed us regardless, they missed so many chances, this could have been easily 5-1. But still, you cannot be that reckless with your officiating. That just took all momentum (or what's left of it) from us.
They really did not outplay Arsenal imo, Arsenal was even or even better than City during the match from what I saw. It's hard to look better than the other team when the other team has an extra player ehem ref on their side. It was blatantly obvious that the ref was helping City, for all the fouls City pulled they only got one yellow card while Arsenal got a ****ton of yellows for ticky tack fouls, I even caught him staring intently at Arsenal while they were defending and jogging off while they were playing offense. Truly a poor display from the EPL, the refs are the worst in the world. Meanwhile a hard fought loss against Chelsea but MVP Fellaini returned, so there's a silver lining.
Title: Re: 2017-18 EPL Season
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on November 05, 2017, 07:54:08 PM
Arsene Wenger:

"Sometimes the best defence is to attack."

also Arsene Wenger:

I will sit Alexandre Lacazette on the bench.


Seriously...
This match has nothing to do on Wenger, the EPL should try to find out whether the ref has gambled on the match.

Yep. Especially that linesman who was sleeping, not calling an offside infraction that resulted in the 3rd goal.

I mean, City pretty much outplayed us regardless, they missed so many chances, this could have been easily 5-1. But still, you cannot be that reckless with your officiating. That just took all momentum (or what's left of it) from us.
They really did not outplay Arsenal imo, Arsenal was even or even better than City during the match from what I saw. It's hard to look better than the other team when the other team has an extra player ehem ref on their side. It was blatantly obvious that the ref was helping City, for all the fouls City pulled they only got one yellow card while Arsenal got a ****ton of yellows for ticky tack fouls, I even caught him staring intently at Arsenal while they were defending and jogging off while they were playing offense. Truly a poor display from the EPL, the refs are the worst in the world. Meanwhile a hard fought loss against Chelsea but MVP Fellaini returned, so there's a silver lining.

You're being nice to us.

City caught us a lot on the counter, with them just screwing up the final pass. There was a chance early in the game, a wide open net for Sterling to bury that he did not connect. They had so many chances, clear cut chances that they didn't capitalize, and part of it is because our defence is just too soft, too easy to break down.

They've bothered us well in the midfield too.

And Alexis Sanchez played like he's a spy from Man City, just flat out poor.

I came in to the game knowing we will lose, I was happy with the Lacazette goal. We got outplayed, but we hung tough. That was all I could ask for, this is Manchester City after all.

But I can't be happy when the officials are failing at their jobs. Being down 2-1 at the Etihad with 20 minutes left could have probably kept us fighting, a 3-1 lead however, seemed insurmountable, especially against this squad, and that killed whatever momentum we had.

That was just plain, terrible officiating.

We're not going to make the top 4. We have to win the Europa to make a CL spot. Problem is, we might have to go thru Atletico Madrid, Napoli and Dortmund to do it. . . ugh
Title: Re: 2017-18 EPL Season
Post by: Sixth Man on November 05, 2017, 08:03:45 PM
Arsene Wenger:

"Sometimes the best defence is to attack."

also Arsene Wenger:

I will sit Alexandre Lacazette on the bench.


Seriously...
This match has nothing to do on Wenger, the EPL should try to find out whether the ref has gambled on the match.

Yep. Especially that linesman who was sleeping, not calling an offside infraction that resulted in the 3rd goal.

I mean, City pretty much outplayed us regardless, they missed so many chances, this could have been easily 5-1. But still, you cannot be that reckless with your officiating. That just took all momentum (or what's left of it) from us.

Clear offsides on that goal, but he also missed Kolasinac's shove in Sterling's back in the box.  You might have noticed that on the awarded penalty, Monreal never touched the ball despite bowling RS over. 

Arsenal didn't play well enough to win at the Etihad today, but maybe they can get a result in the return fixture at the Emirates. 
Title: Re: 2017-18 EPL Season
Post by: Sixth Man on November 05, 2017, 08:06:18 PM
Arsene Wenger:

"Sometimes the best defence is to attack."

also Arsene Wenger:

I will sit Alexandre Lacazette on the bench.


Seriously...
This match has nothing to do on Wenger, the EPL should try to find out whether the ref has gambled on the match.

Yep. Especially that linesman who was sleeping, not calling an offside infraction that resulted in the 3rd goal.

I mean, City pretty much outplayed us regardless, they missed so many chances, this could have been easily 5-1. But still, you cannot be that reckless with your officiating. That just took all momentum (or what's left of it) from us.
They really did not outplay Arsenal imo, Arsenal was even or even better than City during the match from what I saw. It's hard to look better than the other team when the other team has an extra player ehem ref on their side. It was blatantly obvious that the ref was helping City, for all the fouls City pulled they only got one yellow card while Arsenal got a ****ton of yellows for ticky tack fouls, I even caught him staring intently at Arsenal while they were defending and jogging off while they were playing offense. Truly a poor display from the EPL, the refs are the worst in the world. Meanwhile a hard fought loss against Chelsea but MVP Fellaini returned, so there's a silver lining.

What a load of baloney.  Congrats on your squad's fine performance today against Chelsea... ;)
Title: Re: 2017-18 EPL Season
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on November 05, 2017, 08:32:25 PM
Arsene Wenger:

"Sometimes the best defence is to attack."

also Arsene Wenger:

I will sit Alexandre Lacazette on the bench.


Seriously...
This match has nothing to do on Wenger, the EPL should try to find out whether the ref has gambled on the match.

Yep. Especially that linesman who was sleeping, not calling an offside infraction that resulted in the 3rd goal.

I mean, City pretty much outplayed us regardless, they missed so many chances, this could have been easily 5-1. But still, you cannot be that reckless with your officiating. That just took all momentum (or what's left of it) from us.

Clear offsides on that goal, but he also missed Kolasinac's shove in Sterling's back in the box.  You might have noticed that on the awarded penalty, Monreal never touched the ball despite bowling RS over. 

Arsenal didn't play well enough to win at the Etihad today, but maybe they can get a result in the return fixture at the Emirates.

I'll give you the Kolasinac shove, but the penalty was not a penalty. Sterling RAN towards Monreal and dived. What does Monreal have to do? How will he able to avoid a collision when you're trying to defend and the player literally ran towards you to make contact, and then dive to get the penalty (which he did)?

And Silva was so offside, it makes it even more frustration because it wasn't even close. That just killed whatever it is we had left.

No, we did not play well enough. Wenger's tactics from the start and baffling as it is, and Sanchez just gave the ball away way too much like he is showing he really wants to play for City. But I will have to disagree, the officials have a hand in this.

You guys are still the cream of the crop. There's no denying the quality of Man City. Like I said, I came in this game knowing that we are going to lose, but there is some terrible officiating against us in this match.
Title: Re: 2017-18 EPL Season
Post by: Sixth Man on November 05, 2017, 11:20:10 PM
Arsene Wenger:

"Sometimes the best defence is to attack."

also Arsene Wenger:

I will sit Alexandre Lacazette on the bench.


Seriously...
This match has nothing to do on Wenger, the EPL should try to find out whether the ref has gambled on the match.

Yep. Especially that linesman who was sleeping, not calling an offside infraction that resulted in the 3rd goal.

I mean, City pretty much outplayed us regardless, they missed so many chances, this could have been easily 5-1. But still, you cannot be that reckless with your officiating. That just took all momentum (or what's left of it) from us.

Clear offsides on that goal, but he also missed Kolasinac's shove in Sterling's back in the box.  You might have noticed that on the awarded penalty, Monreal never touched the ball despite bowling RS over. 

Arsenal didn't play well enough to win at the Etihad today, but maybe they can get a result in the return fixture at the Emirates.

I'll give you the Kolasinac shove, but the penalty was not a penalty. Sterling RAN towards Monreal and dived. What does Monreal have to do? How will he able to avoid a collision when you're trying to defend and the player literally ran towards you to make contact, and then dive to get the penalty (which he did)?

And Silva was so offside, it makes it even more frustration because it wasn't even close. That just killed whatever it is we had left.

No, we did not play well enough. Wenger's tactics from the start and baffling as it is, and Sanchez just gave the ball away way too much like he is showing he really wants to play for City. But I will have to disagree, the officials have a hand in this.

You guys are still the cream of the crop. There's no denying the quality of Man City. Like I said, I came in this game knowing that we are going to lose, but there is some terrible officiating against us in this match.

Well, Monreal crashed into Sterling, not the other way 'round.  In any event, I was very surprised that Wenger did not start Lacazette, who at least provided something of a focal point for the attack. 
Title: Re: 2017-18 EPL Season
Post by: Somebody on November 06, 2017, 12:32:50 AM
Arsene Wenger:

"Sometimes the best defence is to attack."

also Arsene Wenger:

I will sit Alexandre Lacazette on the bench.


Seriously...
This match has nothing to do on Wenger, the EPL should try to find out whether the ref has gambled on the match.

Yep. Especially that linesman who was sleeping, not calling an offside infraction that resulted in the 3rd goal.

I mean, City pretty much outplayed us regardless, they missed so many chances, this could have been easily 5-1. But still, you cannot be that reckless with your officiating. That just took all momentum (or what's left of it) from us.
They really did not outplay Arsenal imo, Arsenal was even or even better than City during the match from what I saw. It's hard to look better than the other team when the other team has an extra player ehem ref on their side. It was blatantly obvious that the ref was helping City, for all the fouls City pulled they only got one yellow card while Arsenal got a ****ton of yellows for ticky tack fouls, I even caught him staring intently at Arsenal while they were defending and jogging off while they were playing offense. Truly a poor display from the EPL, the refs are the worst in the world. Meanwhile a hard fought loss against Chelsea but MVP Fellaini returned, so there's a silver lining.

You're being nice to us.

City caught us a lot on the counter, with them just screwing up the final pass. There was a chance early in the game, a wide open net for Sterling to bury that he did not connect. They had so many chances, clear cut chances that they didn't capitalize, and part of it is because our defence is just too soft, too easy to break down.

They've bothered us well in the midfield too.

And Alexis Sanchez played like he's a spy from Man City, just flat out poor.

I came in to the game knowing we will lose, I was happy with the Lacazette goal. We got outplayed, but we hung tough. That was all I could ask for, this is Manchester City after all.

But I can't be happy when the officials are failing at their jobs. Being down 2-1 at the Etihad with 20 minutes left could have probably kept us fighting, a 3-1 lead however, seemed insurmountable, especially against this squad, and that killed whatever momentum we had.

That was just plain, terrible officiating.

We're not going to make the top 4. We have to win the Europa to make a CL spot. Problem is, we might have to go thru Atletico Madrid, Napoli and Dortmund to do it. . . ugh
Good luck, I like what Arsenal showed last night, Sanchez and Ozil were just a bit sloppy and you guys didn't capitalize on your chances.
Title: Re: 2017-18 EPL Season
Post by: Somebody on November 06, 2017, 12:39:00 AM
Arsene Wenger:

"Sometimes the best defence is to attack."

also Arsene Wenger:

I will sit Alexandre Lacazette on the bench.


Seriously...
This match has nothing to do on Wenger, the EPL should try to find out whether the ref has gambled on the match.

Yep. Especially that linesman who was sleeping, not calling an offside infraction that resulted in the 3rd goal.

I mean, City pretty much outplayed us regardless, they missed so many chances, this could have been easily 5-1. But still, you cannot be that reckless with your officiating. That just took all momentum (or what's left of it) from us.
They really did not outplay Arsenal imo, Arsenal was even or even better than City during the match from what I saw. It's hard to look better than the other team when the other team has an extra player ehem ref on their side. It was blatantly obvious that the ref was helping City, for all the fouls City pulled they only got one yellow card while Arsenal got a ****ton of yellows for ticky tack fouls, I even caught him staring intently at Arsenal while they were defending and jogging off while they were playing offense. Truly a poor display from the EPL, the refs are the worst in the world. Meanwhile a hard fought loss against Chelsea but MVP Fellaini returned, so there's a silver lining.

What a load of baloney.  Congrats on your squad's fine performance today against Chelsea... ;)
Yeah and congrats on pulling the ref almost every single game when the going is tough and not having a ton of injuries...at least we fought with the odds stacked against us and we came out with a positive result (was expecting to lose more than 2 goals this match). Say what you want but Arsenal outplayed you guys during the stretch where Lacazette scored and were looking to equalize before the ref pulled out  yellow cards like yu gi oh and missed that offside.
Title: Re: 2017-18 EPL Season
Post by: Sixth Man on November 06, 2017, 12:55:10 AM
Arsene Wenger:

"Sometimes the best defence is to attack."

also Arsene Wenger:

I will sit Alexandre Lacazette on the bench.


Seriously...
This match has nothing to do on Wenger, the EPL should try to find out whether the ref has gambled on the match.

Yep. Especially that linesman who was sleeping, not calling an offside infraction that resulted in the 3rd goal.

I mean, City pretty much outplayed us regardless, they missed so many chances, this could have been easily 5-1. But still, you cannot be that reckless with your officiating. That just took all momentum (or what's left of it) from us.
They really did not outplay Arsenal imo, Arsenal was even or even better than City during the match from what I saw. It's hard to look better than the other team when the other team has an extra player ehem ref on their side. It was blatantly obvious that the ref was helping City, for all the fouls City pulled they only got one yellow card while Arsenal got a ****ton of yellows for ticky tack fouls, I even caught him staring intently at Arsenal while they were defending and jogging off while they were playing offense. Truly a poor display from the EPL, the refs are the worst in the world. Meanwhile a hard fought loss against Chelsea but MVP Fellaini returned, so there's a silver lining.

What a load of baloney.  Congrats on your squad's fine performance today against Chelsea... ;)
Yeah and congrats on pulling the ref almost every single game when the going is tough and not having a ton of injuries...at least we fought with the odds stacked against us and we came out with a positive result (was expecting to lose more than 2 goals this match). Say what you want but Arsenal outplayed you guys during the stretch where Lacazette scored and were looking to equalize before the ref pulled out  yellow cards like yu gi oh and missed that offside.

Who's "bitter" now?!  8) 
Title: Re: 2017-18 EPL Season
Post by: Somebody on November 06, 2017, 01:03:10 AM
Arsene Wenger:

"Sometimes the best defence is to attack."

also Arsene Wenger:

I will sit Alexandre Lacazette on the bench.


Seriously...
This match has nothing to do on Wenger, the EPL should try to find out whether the ref has gambled on the match.

Yep. Especially that linesman who was sleeping, not calling an offside infraction that resulted in the 3rd goal.

I mean, City pretty much outplayed us regardless, they missed so many chances, this could have been easily 5-1. But still, you cannot be that reckless with your officiating. That just took all momentum (or what's left of it) from us.
They really did not outplay Arsenal imo, Arsenal was even or even better than City during the match from what I saw. It's hard to look better than the other team when the other team has an extra player ehem ref on their side. It was blatantly obvious that the ref was helping City, for all the fouls City pulled they only got one yellow card while Arsenal got a ****ton of yellows for ticky tack fouls, I even caught him staring intently at Arsenal while they were defending and jogging off while they were playing offense. Truly a poor display from the EPL, the refs are the worst in the world. Meanwhile a hard fought loss against Chelsea but MVP Fellaini returned, so there's a silver lining.

What a load of baloney.  Congrats on your squad's fine performance today against Chelsea... ;)
Yeah and congrats on pulling the ref almost every single game when the going is tough and not having a ton of injuries...at least we fought with the odds stacked against us and we came out with a positive result (was expecting to lose more than 2 goals this match). Say what you want but Arsenal outplayed you guys during the stretch where Lacazette scored and were looking to equalize before the ref pulled out  yellow cards like yu gi oh and missed that offside.

Who's "bitter" now?!  8)
Not me, we won 3 championships last year and are looking for more while you guys won 0 last year and are just looking for your 1st chip with Pep 8)
Title: Re: 2017-18 EPL Season
Post by: Sixth Man on November 07, 2017, 12:58:05 AM
Arsene Wenger:

"Sometimes the best defence is to attack."

also Arsene Wenger:

I will sit Alexandre Lacazette on the bench.


Seriously...
This match has nothing to do on Wenger, the EPL should try to find out whether the ref has gambled on the match.

Yep. Especially that linesman who was sleeping, not calling an offside infraction that resulted in the 3rd goal.

I mean, City pretty much outplayed us regardless, they missed so many chances, this could have been easily 5-1. But still, you cannot be that reckless with your officiating. That just took all momentum (or what's left of it) from us.
They really did not outplay Arsenal imo, Arsenal was even or even better than City during the match from what I saw. It's hard to look better than the other team when the other team has an extra player ehem ref on their side. It was blatantly obvious that the ref was helping City, for all the fouls City pulled they only got one yellow card while Arsenal got a ****ton of yellows for ticky tack fouls, I even caught him staring intently at Arsenal while they were defending and jogging off while they were playing offense. Truly a poor display from the EPL, the refs are the worst in the world. Meanwhile a hard fought loss against Chelsea but MVP Fellaini returned, so there's a silver lining.

What a load of baloney.  Congrats on your squad's fine performance today against Chelsea... ;)
Yeah and congrats on pulling the ref almost every single game when the going is tough and not having a ton of injuries...at least we fought with the odds stacked against us and we came out with a positive result (was expecting to lose more than 2 goals this match). Say what you want but Arsenal outplayed you guys during the stretch where Lacazette scored and were looking to equalize before the ref pulled out  yellow cards like yu gi oh and missed that offside.

Who's "bitter" now?!  8)
Not me, we won 3 championships last year and are looking for more while you guys won 0 last year and are just looking for your 1st chip with Pep 8)

Your previous statement contradicts that - a lot of whinging and crying and wringing of hands.  Oh, the refs are all bought and City have rigged the entire season, eh?  Seems pretty childish, to me, but then your manager is just the same, always an excuse or three after losses.  It's always the fault of someone, or something else, never United's manager or players.  He was the same way at Chelsea, both times, as their supporters will eagerly remind you... ::)
Title: Re: 2017-18 EPL Season
Post by: Somebody on November 09, 2017, 12:45:03 AM
Arsene Wenger:

"Sometimes the best defence is to attack."

also Arsene Wenger:

I will sit Alexandre Lacazette on the bench.


Seriously...
This match has nothing to do on Wenger, the EPL should try to find out whether the ref has gambled on the match.

Yep. Especially that linesman who was sleeping, not calling an offside infraction that resulted in the 3rd goal.

I mean, City pretty much outplayed us regardless, they missed so many chances, this could have been easily 5-1. But still, you cannot be that reckless with your officiating. That just took all momentum (or what's left of it) from us.
They really did not outplay Arsenal imo, Arsenal was even or even better than City during the match from what I saw. It's hard to look better than the other team when the other team has an extra player ehem ref on their side. It was blatantly obvious that the ref was helping City, for all the fouls City pulled they only got one yellow card while Arsenal got a ****ton of yellows for ticky tack fouls, I even caught him staring intently at Arsenal while they were defending and jogging off while they were playing offense. Truly a poor display from the EPL, the refs are the worst in the world. Meanwhile a hard fought loss against Chelsea but MVP Fellaini returned, so there's a silver lining.

What a load of baloney.  Congrats on your squad's fine performance today against Chelsea... ;)
Yeah and congrats on pulling the ref almost every single game when the going is tough and not having a ton of injuries...at least we fought with the odds stacked against us and we came out with a positive result (was expecting to lose more than 2 goals this match). Say what you want but Arsenal outplayed you guys during the stretch where Lacazette scored and were looking to equalize before the ref pulled out  yellow cards like yu gi oh and missed that offside.

Who's "bitter" now?!  8)
Not me, we won 3 championships last year and are looking for more while you guys won 0 last year and are just looking for your 1st chip with Pep 8)

Your previous statement contradicts that - a lot of whinging and crying and wringing of hands.  Oh, the refs are all bought and City have rigged the entire season, eh?  Seems pretty childish, to me, but then your manager is just the same, always an excuse or three after losses.  It's always the fault of someone, or something else, never United's manager or players.  He was the same way at Chelsea, both times, as their supporters will eagerly remind you... ::)
It's normal for a ManU supporter to "whine" about City getting breaks all the time, especially when both teams are competing for the title. I imagine you'd be the same if ManU ever get the good graces of the offcials in a tight match and manage to pull out a potentially crucial win in the title race. But oh well I can't blame City fans for taking this win, always that 2nd rate Manchester team ::). About United tbh I am not high on this team, the right wing is just too inconsistent (so there's that about "it's not the team's fault") and I think City are favourites (respect to the City offense, it's amazing to watch) but I'll always support United and we're not going down without a fight.
Title: Re: 2017-18 EPL Season
Post by: Sixth Man on November 09, 2017, 12:50:29 AM
Arsene Wenger:

"Sometimes the best defence is to attack."

also Arsene Wenger:

I will sit Alexandre Lacazette on the bench.


Seriously...
This match has nothing to do on Wenger, the EPL should try to find out whether the ref has gambled on the match.

Yep. Especially that linesman who was sleeping, not calling an offside infraction that resulted in the 3rd goal.

I mean, City pretty much outplayed us regardless, they missed so many chances, this could have been easily 5-1. But still, you cannot be that reckless with your officiating. That just took all momentum (or what's left of it) from us.
They really did not outplay Arsenal imo, Arsenal was even or even better than City during the match from what I saw. It's hard to look better than the other team when the other team has an extra player ehem ref on their side. It was blatantly obvious that the ref was helping City, for all the fouls City pulled they only got one yellow card while Arsenal got a ****ton of yellows for ticky tack fouls, I even caught him staring intently at Arsenal while they were defending and jogging off while they were playing offense. Truly a poor display from the EPL, the refs are the worst in the world. Meanwhile a hard fought loss against Chelsea but MVP Fellaini returned, so there's a silver lining.

What a load of baloney.  Congrats on your squad's fine performance today against Chelsea... ;)
Yeah and congrats on pulling the ref almost every single game when the going is tough and not having a ton of injuries...at least we fought with the odds stacked against us and we came out with a positive result (was expecting to lose more than 2 goals this match). Say what you want but Arsenal outplayed you guys during the stretch where Lacazette scored and were looking to equalize before the ref pulled out  yellow cards like yu gi oh and missed that offside.

Who's "bitter" now?!  8)
Not me, we won 3 championships last year and are looking for more while you guys won 0 last year and are just looking for your 1st chip with Pep 8)

Your previous statement contradicts that - a lot of whinging and crying and wringing of hands.  Oh, the refs are all bought and City have rigged the entire season, eh?  Seems pretty childish, to me, but then your manager is just the same, always an excuse or three after losses.  It's always the fault of someone, or something else, never United's manager or players.  He was the same way at Chelsea, both times, as their supporters will eagerly remind you... ::)
It's normal for a ManU supporter to "whine" about City getting breaks all the time, especially when both teams are competing for the title. I imagine you'd be the same if ManU ever get the good graces of the offcials in a tight match and manage to pull out the crucial win in the title race. But oh well I can't blame City fans for taking this win, always that 2nd rate Manchester team ::)

Seems like none of the pundits nor former referees agree with your assessment of the penalty awarded to City against Arsenal.  Some even suggested that Monreal was a bit fortunate not to be red-carded for the foul.  I did not like the two ridiculous calls against City in the Everton match, but i didn't throw a strop and make inflammatory posts online, as you did for a match that did not even involve your club. 
Title: Re: 2017-18 EPL Season
Post by: Somebody on November 09, 2017, 02:51:05 AM
Arsene Wenger:

"Sometimes the best defence is to attack."

also Arsene Wenger:

I will sit Alexandre Lacazette on the bench.


Seriously...
This match has nothing to do on Wenger, the EPL should try to find out whether the ref has gambled on the match.

Yep. Especially that linesman who was sleeping, not calling an offside infraction that resulted in the 3rd goal.

I mean, City pretty much outplayed us regardless, they missed so many chances, this could have been easily 5-1. But still, you cannot be that reckless with your officiating. That just took all momentum (or what's left of it) from us.
They really did not outplay Arsenal imo, Arsenal was even or even better than City during the match from what I saw. It's hard to look better than the other team when the other team has an extra player ehem ref on their side. It was blatantly obvious that the ref was helping City, for all the fouls City pulled they only got one yellow card while Arsenal got a ****ton of yellows for ticky tack fouls, I even caught him staring intently at Arsenal while they were defending and jogging off while they were playing offense. Truly a poor display from the EPL, the refs are the worst in the world. Meanwhile a hard fought loss against Chelsea but MVP Fellaini returned, so there's a silver lining.

What a load of baloney.  Congrats on your squad's fine performance today against Chelsea... ;)
Yeah and congrats on pulling the ref almost every single game when the going is tough and not having a ton of injuries...at least we fought with the odds stacked against us and we came out with a positive result (was expecting to lose more than 2 goals this match). Say what you want but Arsenal outplayed you guys during the stretch where Lacazette scored and were looking to equalize before the ref pulled out  yellow cards like yu gi oh and missed that offside.

Who's "bitter" now?!  8)
Not me, we won 3 championships last year and are looking for more while you guys won 0 last year and are just looking for your 1st chip with Pep 8)

Your previous statement contradicts that - a lot of whinging and crying and wringing of hands.  Oh, the refs are all bought and City have rigged the entire season, eh?  Seems pretty childish, to me, but then your manager is just the same, always an excuse or three after losses.  It's always the fault of someone, or something else, never United's manager or players.  He was the same way at Chelsea, both times, as their supporters will eagerly remind you... ::)
It's normal for a ManU supporter to "whine" about City getting breaks all the time, especially when both teams are competing for the title. I imagine you'd be the same if ManU ever get the good graces of the offcials in a tight match and manage to pull out the crucial win in the title race. But oh well I can't blame City fans for taking this win, always that 2nd rate Manchester team ::)

Seems like none of the pundits nor former referees agree with your assessment of the penalty awarded to City against Arsenal.  Some even suggested that Monreal was a bit fortunate not to be red-carded for the foul.  I did not like the two ridiculous calls against City in the Everton match, but i didn't throw a strop and make inflammatory posts online, as you did for a match that did not even involve your club.
Lol thought you were playing along, apologies for offending you. The Everton match was...controversial to say the least but City has had gotten the better end quite a bit more, there was the "Guardiola time" match and a couple more. Not to say you guys are not worthy of the title, otherwise you guys wouldn't be contenders prior to the start of the season but it is a bit...peculiar that you guys are getting such treatment. See you a month or two later, I'll enjoy the derby.
Title: Re: 2017-18 EPL Season
Post by: Sixth Man on November 10, 2017, 12:14:38 AM
Arsene Wenger:

"Sometimes the best defence is to attack."

also Arsene Wenger:

I will sit Alexandre Lacazette on the bench.


Seriously...
This match has nothing to do on Wenger, the EPL should try to find out whether the ref has gambled on the match.

Yep. Especially that linesman who was sleeping, not calling an offside infraction that resulted in the 3rd goal.

I mean, City pretty much outplayed us regardless, they missed so many chances, this could have been easily 5-1. But still, you cannot be that reckless with your officiating. That just took all momentum (or what's left of it) from us.
They really did not outplay Arsenal imo, Arsenal was even or even better than City during the match from what I saw. It's hard to look better than the other team when the other team has an extra player ehem ref on their side. It was blatantly obvious that the ref was helping City, for all the fouls City pulled they only got one yellow card while Arsenal got a ****ton of yellows for ticky tack fouls, I even caught him staring intently at Arsenal while they were defending and jogging off while they were playing offense. Truly a poor display from the EPL, the refs are the worst in the world. Meanwhile a hard fought loss against Chelsea but MVP Fellaini returned, so there's a silver lining.

What a load of baloney.  Congrats on your squad's fine performance today against Chelsea... ;)
Yeah and congrats on pulling the ref almost every single game when the going is tough and not having a ton of injuries...at least we fought with the odds stacked against us and we came out with a positive result (was expecting to lose more than 2 goals this match). Say what you want but Arsenal outplayed you guys during the stretch where Lacazette scored and were looking to equalize before the ref pulled out  yellow cards like yu gi oh and missed that offside.

Who's "bitter" now?!  8)
Not me, we won 3 championships last year and are looking for more while you guys won 0 last year and are just looking for your 1st chip with Pep 8)

Your previous statement contradicts that - a lot of whinging and crying and wringing of hands.  Oh, the refs are all bought and City have rigged the entire season, eh?  Seems pretty childish, to me, but then your manager is just the same, always an excuse or three after losses.  It's always the fault of someone, or something else, never United's manager or players.  He was the same way at Chelsea, both times, as their supporters will eagerly remind you... ::)
It's normal for a ManU supporter to "whine" about City getting breaks all the time, especially when both teams are competing for the title. I imagine you'd be the same if ManU ever get the good graces of the offcials in a tight match and manage to pull out the crucial win in the title race. But oh well I can't blame City fans for taking this win, always that 2nd rate Manchester team ::)

Seems like none of the pundits nor former referees agree with your assessment of the penalty awarded to City against Arsenal.  Some even suggested that Monreal was a bit fortunate not to be red-carded for the foul.  I did not like the two ridiculous calls against City in the Everton match, but i didn't throw a strop and make inflammatory posts online, as you did for a match that did not even involve your club.
Lol thought you were playing along, apologies for offending you. The Everton match was...controversial to say the least but City has had gotten the better end quite a bit more, there was the "Guardiola time" match and a couple more. Not to say you guys are not worthy of the title, otherwise you guys wouldn't be contenders prior to the start of the season but it is a bit...peculiar that you guys are getting such treatment. See you a month or two later, I'll enjoy the derby.

No need for an apology, you didn't offend me, but all this is simply more banter, par for the course.  Nice to know that you continue to persist in suggesting that City are being "assisted" by referees and linesmen, but I stand by my assertion that NO pundits nor former referees agree with your take on the Monreal penalty.  I think you look just as foolish as the Arsenal faithful on this point. 

Remember "Fergie Time?"   ;)
Title: Re: 2017-18 EPL Season
Post by: Somebody on November 17, 2017, 04:05:30 AM
Arsene Wenger:

"Sometimes the best defence is to attack."

also Arsene Wenger:

I will sit Alexandre Lacazette on the bench.


Seriously...
This match has nothing to do on Wenger, the EPL should try to find out whether the ref has gambled on the match.

Yep. Especially that linesman who was sleeping, not calling an offside infraction that resulted in the 3rd goal.

I mean, City pretty much outplayed us regardless, they missed so many chances, this could have been easily 5-1. But still, you cannot be that reckless with your officiating. That just took all momentum (or what's left of it) from us.
They really did not outplay Arsenal imo, Arsenal was even or even better than City during the match from what I saw. It's hard to look better than the other team when the other team has an extra player ehem ref on their side. It was blatantly obvious that the ref was helping City, for all the fouls City pulled they only got one yellow card while Arsenal got a ****ton of yellows for ticky tack fouls, I even caught him staring intently at Arsenal while they were defending and jogging off while they were playing offense. Truly a poor display from the EPL, the refs are the worst in the world. Meanwhile a hard fought loss against Chelsea but MVP Fellaini returned, so there's a silver lining.

What a load of baloney.  Congrats on your squad's fine performance today against Chelsea... ;)
Yeah and congrats on pulling the ref almost every single game when the going is tough and not having a ton of injuries...at least we fought with the odds stacked against us and we came out with a positive result (was expecting to lose more than 2 goals this match). Say what you want but Arsenal outplayed you guys during the stretch where Lacazette scored and were looking to equalize before the ref pulled out  yellow cards like yu gi oh and missed that offside.

Who's "bitter" now?!  8)
Not me, we won 3 championships last year and are looking for more while you guys won 0 last year and are just looking for your 1st chip with Pep 8)

Your previous statement contradicts that - a lot of whinging and crying and wringing of hands.  Oh, the refs are all bought and City have rigged the entire season, eh?  Seems pretty childish, to me, but then your manager is just the same, always an excuse or three after losses.  It's always the fault of someone, or something else, never United's manager or players.  He was the same way at Chelsea, both times, as their supporters will eagerly remind you... ::)
It's normal for a ManU supporter to "whine" about City getting breaks all the time, especially when both teams are competing for the title. I imagine you'd be the same if ManU ever get the good graces of the offcials in a tight match and manage to pull out the crucial win in the title race. But oh well I can't blame City fans for taking this win, always that 2nd rate Manchester team ::)

Seems like none of the pundits nor former referees agree with your assessment of the penalty awarded to City against Arsenal.  Some even suggested that Monreal was a bit fortunate not to be red-carded for the foul.  I did not like the two ridiculous calls against City in the Everton match, but i didn't throw a strop and make inflammatory posts online, as you did for a match that did not even involve your club.
Lol thought you were playing along, apologies for offending you. The Everton match was...controversial to say the least but City has had gotten the better end quite a bit more, there was the "Guardiola time" match and a couple more. Not to say you guys are not worthy of the title, otherwise you guys wouldn't be contenders prior to the start of the season but it is a bit...peculiar that you guys are getting such treatment. See you a month or two later, I'll enjoy the derby.

No need for an apology, you didn't offend me, but all this is simply more banter, par for the course.  Nice to know that you continue to persist in suggesting that City are being "assisted" by referees and linesmen, but I stand by my assertion that NO pundits nor former referees agree with your take on the Monreal penalty.  I think you look just as foolish as the Arsenal faithful on this point. 

Remember "Fergie Time?"   ;)
Of course, I stopped watching football for a while because of that too. For the penalty I'll continue being "foolish" and say it was a good sell.
Title: Re: 2017-18 EPL Season
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on November 18, 2017, 09:32:04 AM
We may not finish in the top four, we may not amount to anything this year.

But at least, for now, I can say...

NORTH LONDON IS RED
Title: Re: 2017-18 EPL Season
Post by: Sixth Man on November 18, 2017, 10:00:25 AM
We may not finish in the top four, we may not amount to anything this year.

But at least, for now, I can say...

NORTH LONDON IS RED

Of course, he did not see any decisions go their way!  Classic Wenger... ::)

Title: Re: 2017-18 EPL Season
Post by: Somebody on November 18, 2017, 10:02:39 AM
We may not finish in the top four, we may not amount to anything this year.

But at least, for now, I can say...

NORTH LONDON IS RED
Lol congratulations, rooting for you guys to finish top 4.
Title: Re: 2017-18 EPL Season
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on November 18, 2017, 11:01:03 AM
We may not finish in the top four, we may not amount to anything this year.

But at least, for now, I can say...

NORTH LONDON IS RED

Of course, he did not see any decisions go their way!  Classic Wenger... ::)

We got scored on an offside call that was much more blatant than the Mustafi one. I say we just got even.

And I think Wenger agrees.
Title: Re: 2017-18 EPL Season
Post by: Sixth Man on November 18, 2017, 12:18:28 PM
We may not finish in the top four, we may not amount to anything this year.

But at least, for now, I can say...

NORTH LONDON IS RED

Of course, he did not see any decisions go their way!  Classic Wenger... ::)

We got scored on an offside call that was much more blatant than the Mustafi one. I say we just got even.

And I think Wenger agrees.

Wenger's continuing castigation of Sterling is beyond ridiculous.  I think AW is a disgrace to the EPL.
Title: Re: 2017-18 EPL Season
Post by: Somebody on November 19, 2017, 12:45:55 AM
Just got back in time at night for the City game, and man they look great, especially DeBruyne who's living up to that 70 million. I had to sleep for the United game though, anyone who watched that game can tell me did they play well as a whole or was it just us parking the bus again?