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Title: So, Neymar to PSG. This is crazy!
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on August 02, 2017, 10:01:30 PM
https://twitter.com/SkySportsNews/status/892800518552158208

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BREAKING NEWS: Neymar agrees five-year contract at Paris Saint-Germain, according to Sky sources. #SSN

https://twitter.com/SkySportsNews/status/892800819237617665

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Neymar deal worth nearly £450m including wages and bonuses.

That's an INSANE amount of money being spent for just one guy. Jesus Christ. This could be the transfer of a lifetime?

Any football fans here? What do you make of this?
Title: Re: So, Neymar to PSG. This is crazy!
Post by: RJ87 on August 02, 2017, 10:10:06 PM
He clearly wanted out from under Messi's shadow. PSG wanted to make a splash and they got their guy. Still don't think they win Champion's league.
Title: Re: So, Neymar to PSG. This is crazy!
Post by: gouki88 on August 02, 2017, 10:16:03 PM
I still can't get my head around a deal that's over ¾ of a billion (Australian) for one guy.

He'd better hope he can flourish at PSG. Sure he's one of the worlds best, but that kind of money means that PSG is gunning for the Champions League, which I still think they don't win.
Title: Re: So, Neymar to PSG. This is crazy!
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on August 02, 2017, 10:16:48 PM
He clearly wanted out from under Messi's shadow. PSG wanted to make a splash and they got their guy. Still don't think they win Champion's league.

It's just an insane amount of money they threw there. Jesus. I think they get it back int two - three years from all the money Neymar is going to bring, but still.

Now, if they also get Alexis Sanchez, they're going to be insane. IDK if they are still in it on the Alexis stuff, but a Neymar, Alexis, Cavani attack with Veratti behind? That is going to be nuts. Still no defence, but man...
Title: Re: So, Neymar to PSG. This is crazy!
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on August 02, 2017, 10:20:05 PM
I still can't get my head around a deal that's over ¾ of a billion (Australian) for one guy.

He'd better hope he can flourish at PSG. Sure he's one of the worlds best, but that kind of money means that PSG is gunning for the Champions League, which I still think they don't win.

This is a Champions League move.

With Monaco losing THREE key players already, and might also lose Thomas Lemar and Kylian Mbappe, they won't be worrying about a domestic title.

They are gunning for the UCL.
Title: Re: So, Neymar to PSG. This is crazy!
Post by: RJ87 on August 02, 2017, 10:32:24 PM
He clearly wanted out from under Messi's shadow. PSG wanted to make a splash and they got their guy. Still don't think they win Champion's league.

It's just an insane amount of money they threw there. Jesus. I think they get it back int two - three years from all the money Neymar is going to bring, but still.

Now, if they also get Alexis Sanchez, they're going to be insane. IDK if they are still in it on the Alexis stuff, but a Neymar, Alexis, Cavani attack with Veratti behind? That is going to be nuts. Still no defence, but man...

From what I've read, Alexis prefers Man City. Maybe Neymar changes that?

I think PSG have obviously improved, but they have other holes they need to address. They may develop the best attack in the world, but you still have to stop the other team from scoring.
Title: Re: So, Neymar to PSG. This is crazy!
Post by: RJ87 on August 02, 2017, 10:33:55 PM
Also, it's Ballon d'Or or bust for Neymar.
Title: Re: So, Neymar to PSG. This is crazy!
Post by: saltlover on August 02, 2017, 10:43:03 PM
£450 million? For how many years, or is that not how these contracts work?  I know nothing about soccer/football pay scales.
Title: Re: So, Neymar to PSG. This is crazy!
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on August 02, 2017, 10:49:30 PM
£450 million? For how many years, or is that not how these contracts work?  I know nothing about soccer/football pay scales.

It's all inclusive. Salaries, bonuses and the transfer fee.

Basically, PSG had to pay about £100+ million (not sure about the full amount) to Barcelona, which is Neymar's release clause (think of it as a buyout) and had to sign him to a contract they agreed upon.

It's a LOT of money.
Title: Re: So, Neymar to PSG. This is crazy!
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on August 02, 2017, 10:51:05 PM
He clearly wanted out from under Messi's shadow. PSG wanted to make a splash and they got their guy. Still don't think they win Champion's league.

It's just an insane amount of money they threw there. Jesus. I think they get it back int two - three years from all the money Neymar is going to bring, but still.

Now, if they also get Alexis Sanchez, they're going to be insane. IDK if they are still in it on the Alexis stuff, but a Neymar, Alexis, Cavani attack with Veratti behind? That is going to be nuts. Still no defence, but man...

From what I've read, Alexis prefers Man City. Maybe Neymar changes that?

I think PSG have obviously improved, but they have other holes they need to address. They may develop the best attack in the world, but you still have to stop the other team from scoring.

We (Arsenal) are not selling Alexis to Man City, or any PL club, per Wenger. But this has not stopped us from selling our players to PL clubs before, so we'll see.

I do hope that PSG pounces on Alexis and we just cash in. I understand not selling him to a PL opponent, but if a Ligue 1 club wants him, sell right away.

That defence is really shady. Two young players in Aurier and Kurzawa on the full backs. They just signed Dani Alves, what does he have left? What does Thiago Silva have left? Marquinhos? Meh. Matuidi and Krychowiak can hold that midfield, I think that's solid. The back line is very shady, though

But check out their attack...

Lucas Moura
Julian Draxler
Angel Di Maria
Edinson Cavani
Marco Veratti
Hatem Ben Afra

And now you add Neymar to that mix... That's ridiculous...
Title: Re: So, Neymar to PSG. This is crazy!
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on August 02, 2017, 11:01:44 PM
https://twitter.com/SkySportsNews/status/892801743393660928

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wages will be £500K, A WEEK, AFTER TAXES

JESUS CHRIST!
Title: Re: So, Neymar to PSG. This is crazy!
Post by: saltlover on August 02, 2017, 11:02:43 PM
£450 million? For how many years, or is that not how these contracts work?  I know nothing about soccer/football pay scales.

It's all inclusive. Salaries, bonuses and the transfer fee.

Basically, PSG had to pay about £100+ million (not sure about the full amount) to Barcelona, which is Neymar's release clause (think of it as a buyout) and had to sign him to a contract they agreed upon.

It's a LOT of money.

So it looks to be about £40 million a year for 5 years, plus the fee to his old club?  And maybe some bonuses?  Effectively £90 million a year for a player?

My goodness.
Title: Re: So, Neymar to PSG. This is crazy!
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on August 02, 2017, 11:11:51 PM
£450 million? For how many years, or is that not how these contracts work?  I know nothing about soccer/football pay scales.

It's all inclusive. Salaries, bonuses and the transfer fee.

Basically, PSG had to pay about £100+ million (not sure about the full amount) to Barcelona, which is Neymar's release clause (think of it as a buyout) and had to sign him to a contract they agreed upon.

It's a LOT of money.

So it looks to be about £40 million a year for 5 years, plus the fee to his old club?  And maybe some bonuses?  Effectively £90 million a year for a player?

My goodness.

The fee to Barcelona is about £198 million in it of itself. The rest would be Neymar's wages.

The NBA is probably looking at this and going "we want some of that". LOL
Title: Re: So, Neymar to PSG. This is crazy!
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on August 02, 2017, 11:26:58 PM
Okay, that's insane...

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DGPFCRLW0AA9geY.jpg)
Title: Re: So, Neymar to PSG. This is crazy!
Post by: saltlover on August 02, 2017, 11:29:51 PM
Okay, that's insane...

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DGPFCRLW0AA9geY.jpg)

I've heard of Neymar...
Title: Re: So, Neymar to PSG. This is crazy!
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on August 02, 2017, 11:32:10 PM
Okay, that's insane...

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DGPFCRLW0AA9geY.jpg)

I've heard of Neymar...

Let's just say that the 4 players up top could be the best attacking crew in world football as we speak.

Veratti in the middle is a borderline world class player too.
Title: Re: So, Neymar to PSG. This is crazy!
Post by: Somebody on August 02, 2017, 11:55:48 PM
That's a CL chip worthy attack...but tbh Neymar's price is fair...especially when you ****ing pay 50 million for Nemanja ****ing Matic...what were you thinking Jose...I'd rather use Fellaini for one more year and use the cash to buy someone young...btw Arsenal had a good offseason imo, don't be that bearish on next season Arsenal fans
Title: Re: So, Neymar to PSG. This is crazy!
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on August 03, 2017, 12:02:06 AM
That's a CL chip worthy attack...but tbh Neymar's price is fair...especially when you ****ing pay 50 million for Nemanja ****ing Matic...what were you thinking Jose...I'd rather use Fellaini for one more year and use the cash to buy someone young...btw Arsenal had a good offseason imo, don't be that bearish on next season Arsenal fans

Yeah, this I didn't get, especially coming from a guy who is complaining about how the prices are very inflated.

I think PSG gets a return of their investment in three years or so. They will sell a LOT of things Neymar touches.
Title: Re: So, Neymar to PSG. This is crazy!
Post by: Somebody on August 03, 2017, 12:07:15 AM
That's a CL chip worthy attack...but tbh Neymar's price is fair...especially when you ****ing pay 50 million for Nemanja ****ing Matic...what were you thinking Jose...I'd rather use Fellaini for one more year and use the cash to buy someone young...btw Arsenal had a good offseason imo, don't be that bearish on next season Arsenal fans

Yeah, this I didn't get, especially coming from a guy who is complaining about how the prices are very inflated.

I think PSG gets a return of their investment in three years or so. They will sell a LOT of things Neymar touches.
Yeah they will, also imo PSG is a real contender for the treble with that offense. Btw what's your prediction for the PL next year?
Title: Re: So, Neymar to PSG. This is crazy!
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on August 03, 2017, 12:26:05 AM
That's a CL chip worthy attack...but tbh Neymar's price is fair...especially when you ****ing pay 50 million for Nemanja ****ing Matic...what were you thinking Jose...I'd rather use Fellaini for one more year and use the cash to buy someone young...btw Arsenal had a good offseason imo, don't be that bearish on next season Arsenal fans

Yeah, this I didn't get, especially coming from a guy who is complaining about how the prices are very inflated.

I think PSG gets a return of their investment in three years or so. They will sell a LOT of things Neymar touches.
Yeah they will, also imo PSG is a real contender for the treble with that offense. Btw what's your prediction for the PL next year?

PL? I don't know. It looks as wide open as it could be. The big 4 teams brought out some cash and added great quality players. Everton has been busy, so is West Ham. Even Bournemouth looks well improved.

I think the Spurs drop out of the top 4 though, and I'm not just saying it as an Arsenal fan, but their transfer window has been disappointing. They haven't brought anyone, and they lost Kyle Walker. A lot of clubs got better.
Title: Re: So, Neymar to PSG. This is crazy!
Post by: unclebay on August 03, 2017, 01:15:43 AM
That's a CL chip worthy attack...but tbh Neymar's price is fair...especially when you ****ing pay 50 million for Nemanja ****ing Matic...what were you thinking Jose...I'd rather use Fellaini for one more year and use the cash to buy someone young...btw Arsenal had a good offseason imo, don't be that bearish on next season Arsenal fans

Yeah, this I didn't get, especially coming from a guy who is complaining about how the prices are very inflated.

I think PSG gets a return of their investment in three years or so. They will sell a LOT of things Neymar touches.
Yeah they will, also imo PSG is a real contender for the treble with that offense. Btw what's your prediction for the PL next year?

PL? I don't know. It looks as wide open as it could be. The big 4 teams brought out some cash and added great quality players. Everton has been busy, so is West Ham. Even Bournemouth looks well improved.

I think the Spurs drop out of the top 4 though, and I'm not just saying it as an Arsenal fan, but their transfer window has been disappointing. They haven't brought anyone, and they lost Kyle Walker. A lot of clubs got better.
United looks really good, especially if they resign Zlat. Don't you think Tottenham continues to improve though?
Title: Re: So, Neymar to PSG. This is crazy!
Post by: Somebody on August 03, 2017, 01:21:10 AM
That's a CL chip worthy attack...but tbh Neymar's price is fair...especially when you ****ing pay 50 million for Nemanja ****ing Matic...what were you thinking Jose...I'd rather use Fellaini for one more year and use the cash to buy someone young...btw Arsenal had a good offseason imo, don't be that bearish on next season Arsenal fans

Yeah, this I didn't get, especially coming from a guy who is complaining about how the prices are very inflated.

I think PSG gets a return of their investment in three years or so. They will sell a LOT of things Neymar touches.
Yeah they will, also imo PSG is a real contender for the treble with that offense. Btw what's your prediction for the PL next year?

PL? I don't know. It looks as wide open as it could be. The big 4 teams brought out some cash and added great quality players. Everton has been busy, so is West Ham. Even Bournemouth looks well improved.

I think the Spurs drop out of the top 4 though, and I'm not just saying it as an Arsenal fan, but their transfer window has been disappointing. They haven't brought anyone, and they lost Kyle Walker. A lot of clubs got better.
United looks really good, especially if they resign Zlat. Don't you think Tottenham continues to improve though?
I do. I think Chelsea falls out tbh, their players tend to fall complacent and they were starting to look vulnerable near the end of the season, United's 2-0 win looked like a 6-0 drubbing tbh. Also United are signing King Zlatan back. I think the top 3 would be 3 of United-City-Arsenal-Spurs while Liverpool and Chelsea fall off and will fight with Everton for the 5-6-7 slots. As a United fan I'm very optimistic.
Title: Re: So, Neymar to PSG. This is crazy!
Post by: ederson on August 03, 2017, 02:26:50 AM
The agent fees make it even crazier... 38m euros

The last 3 4 years the the transfer fees have become completely unreasonable
Title: Re: So, Neymar to PSG. This is crazy!
Post by: ederson on August 03, 2017, 02:42:56 AM
https://twitter.com/SkySportsNews/status/892801743393660928

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wages will be £500K, A WEEK, AFTER TAXES

JESUS CHRIST!

Considering this is a forum about NBA the wage shouldn't be a surprise.... Mozgov makes 300k per week!
Title: Re: So, Neymar to PSG. This is crazy!
Post by: Sixth Man on August 03, 2017, 03:01:09 AM
He clearly wanted out from under Messi's shadow. PSG wanted to make a splash and they got their guy. Still don't think they win Champion's league.

It's just an insane amount of money they threw there. Jesus. I think they get it back int two - three years from all the money Neymar is going to bring, but still.

Now, if they also get Alexis Sanchez, they're going to be insane. IDK if they are still in it on the Alexis stuff, but a Neymar, Alexis, Cavani attack with Veratti behind? That is going to be nuts. Still no defence, but man...

From what I've read, Alexis prefers Man City. Maybe Neymar changes that?

I think PSG have obviously improved, but they have other holes they need to address. They may develop the best attack in the world, but you still have to stop the other team from scoring.

We (Arsenal) are not selling Alexis to Man City, or any PL club, per Wenger. But this has not stopped us from selling our players to PL clubs before, so we'll see.

I do hope that PSG pounces on Alexis and we just cash in. I understand not selling him to a PL opponent, but if a Ligue 1 club wants him, sell right away.

That defence is really shady. Two young players in Aurier and Kurzawa on the full backs. They just signed Dani Alves, what does he have left? What does Thiago Silva have left? Marquinhos? Meh. Matuidi and Krychowiak can hold that midfield, I think that's solid. The back line is very shady, though

But check out their attack...

Lucas Moura
Julian Draxler
Angel Di Maria
Edinson Cavani
Marco Veratti
Hatem Ben Afra

And now you add Neymar to that mix... That's ridiculous...

PSG now cannot afford Alexis after capturing Neymar.  Bayern and Chelsea seem to have dropped out long ago, which means that Wenger can sell him now to City for roughly £50 million, or watch him walk at season's end for nothing.  The obvious play is to swallow hard and cut the deal with City, but Arsenal supporters are so fed up with the pervasive lack of ambition by management that they truly might riot if that transaction occurred. 

Seems to me that the best approach is to take the money for Alexis and then immediately spend it on one or two players (a defender or two would be a great idea) who would measuably improve the squad.  By the way, Lacazette should eventually be excellent up front - finally a worthy #1 striker for this club. 
Title: Re: So, Neymar to PSG. This is crazy!
Post by: Sixth Man on August 03, 2017, 03:02:21 AM
So, is Barca now a "selling club?" ;-)

Title: Re: So, Neymar to PSG. This is crazy!
Post by: ederson on August 03, 2017, 03:09:15 AM
They didn't have a choice... Neymar had a buy out clause
Title: Re: So, Neymar to PSG. This is crazy!
Post by: KG Living Legend on August 03, 2017, 03:30:48 AM

 In USD the transfer fee was a cool 262 million. The previous high was 47 million I think. Grand total of 530 million USD. It's good to be King I suppose.
Title: Re: So, Neymar to PSG. This is crazy!
Post by: ederson on August 03, 2017, 04:08:44 AM

 In USD the transfer fee was a cool 262 million. The previous high was 47 million I think. Grand total of 530 million USD. It's good to be King I suppose.

Last summer MU  payed for Pogba around 120m USD... It has been too long since 47m USD was considered a record fee.. 16 years ago juventus got 60m USD for Zidane
Title: Re: So, Neymar to PSG. This is crazy!
Post by: KG Living Legend on August 03, 2017, 04:28:09 AM

 In USD the transfer fee was a cool 262 million. The previous high was 47 million I think. Grand total of 530 million USD. It's good to be King I suppose.

Last summer MU  payed for Pogba around 120m USD... It has been too long since 47m USD was considered a record fee.. 16 years ago juventus got 60m USD for Zidane



 I'm.blaming it on sportcenter. That's what they said
Title: Re: So, Neymar to PSG. This is crazy!
Post by: Somebody on August 03, 2017, 04:37:05 AM
He clearly wanted out from under Messi's shadow. PSG wanted to make a splash and they got their guy. Still don't think they win Champion's league.

It's just an insane amount of money they threw there. Jesus. I think they get it back int two - three years from all the money Neymar is going to bring, but still.

Now, if they also get Alexis Sanchez, they're going to be insane. IDK if they are still in it on the Alexis stuff, but a Neymar, Alexis, Cavani attack with Veratti behind? That is going to be nuts. Still no defence, but man...

From what I've read, Alexis prefers Man City. Maybe Neymar changes that?

I think PSG have obviously improved, but they have other holes they need to address. They may develop the best attack in the world, but you still have to stop the other team from scoring.

We (Arsenal) are not selling Alexis to Man City, or any PL club, per Wenger. But this has not stopped us from selling our players to PL clubs before, so we'll see.

I do hope that PSG pounces on Alexis and we just cash in. I understand not selling him to a PL opponent, but if a Ligue 1 club wants him, sell right away.

That defence is really shady. Two young players in Aurier and Kurzawa on the full backs. They just signed Dani Alves, what does he have left? What does Thiago Silva have left? Marquinhos? Meh. Matuidi and Krychowiak can hold that midfield, I think that's solid. The back line is very shady, though

But check out their attack...

Lucas Moura
Julian Draxler
Angel Di Maria
Edinson Cavani
Marco Veratti
Hatem Ben Afra

And now you add Neymar to that mix... That's ridiculous...
Ehem...we stole Aurier for 30 million euros (when Matic costs 50 million 30 million for Serge is insane).
Title: Re: So, Neymar to PSG. This is crazy!
Post by: Somebody on August 03, 2017, 04:38:30 AM
He clearly wanted out from under Messi's shadow. PSG wanted to make a splash and they got their guy. Still don't think they win Champion's league.

It's just an insane amount of money they threw there. Jesus. I think they get it back int two - three years from all the money Neymar is going to bring, but still.

Now, if they also get Alexis Sanchez, they're going to be insane. IDK if they are still in it on the Alexis stuff, but a Neymar, Alexis, Cavani attack with Veratti behind? That is going to be nuts. Still no defence, but man...

From what I've read, Alexis prefers Man City. Maybe Neymar changes that?

I think PSG have obviously improved, but they have other holes they need to address. They may develop the best attack in the world, but you still have to stop the other team from scoring.

We (Arsenal) are not selling Alexis to Man City, or any PL club, per Wenger. But this has not stopped us from selling our players to PL clubs before, so we'll see.

I do hope that PSG pounces on Alexis and we just cash in. I understand not selling him to a PL opponent, but if a Ligue 1 club wants him, sell right away.

That defence is really shady. Two young players in Aurier and Kurzawa on the full backs. They just signed Dani Alves, what does he have left? What does Thiago Silva have left? Marquinhos? Meh. Matuidi and Krychowiak can hold that midfield, I think that's solid. The back line is very shady, though

But check out their attack...

Lucas Moura
Julian Draxler
Angel Di Maria
Edinson Cavani
Marco Veratti
Hatem Ben Afra

And now you add Neymar to that mix... That's ridiculous...

PSG now cannot afford Alexis after capturing Neymar.  Bayern and Chelsea seem to have dropped out long ago, which means that Wenger can sell him now to City for roughly £50 million, or watch him walk at season's end for nothing.  The obvious play is to swallow hard and cut the deal with City, but Arsenal supporters are so fed up with the pervasive lack of ambition by management that they truly might riot if that transaction occurred. 

Seems to me that the best approach is to take the money for Alexis and then immediately spend it on one or two players (a defender or two would be a great idea) who would measuably improve the squad.  By the way, Lacazette should eventually be excellent up front - finally a worthy #1 striker for this club.
Then who will take Sanchez' place at the left? Oxlade Chamberlain?
Title: Re: So, Neymar to PSG. This is crazy!
Post by: Sixth Man on August 03, 2017, 05:02:37 AM
He clearly wanted out from under Messi's shadow. PSG wanted to make a splash and they got their guy. Still don't think they win Champion's league.

It's just an insane amount of money they threw there. Jesus. I think they get it back int two - three years from all the money Neymar is going to bring, but still.

Now, if they also get Alexis Sanchez, they're going to be insane. IDK if they are still in it on the Alexis stuff, but a Neymar, Alexis, Cavani attack with Veratti behind? That is going to be nuts. Still no defence, but man...

From what I've read, Alexis prefers Man City. Maybe Neymar changes that?

I think PSG have obviously improved, but they have other holes they need to address. They may develop the best attack in the world, but you still have to stop the other team from scoring.

We (Arsenal) are not selling Alexis to Man City, or any PL club, per Wenger. But this has not stopped us from selling our players to PL clubs before, so we'll see.

I do hope that PSG pounces on Alexis and we just cash in. I understand not selling him to a PL opponent, but if a Ligue 1 club wants him, sell right away.

That defence is really shady. Two young players in Aurier and Kurzawa on the full backs. They just signed Dani Alves, what does he have left? What does Thiago Silva have left? Marquinhos? Meh. Matuidi and Krychowiak can hold that midfield, I think that's solid. The back line is very shady, though

But check out their attack...

Lucas Moura
Julian Draxler
Angel Di Maria
Edinson Cavani
Marco Veratti
Hatem Ben Afra

And now you add Neymar to that mix... That's ridiculous...

PSG now cannot afford Alexis after capturing Neymar.  Bayern and Chelsea seem to have dropped out long ago, which means that Wenger can sell him now to City for roughly £50 million, or watch him walk at season's end for nothing.  The obvious play is to swallow hard and cut the deal with City, but Arsenal supporters are so fed up with the pervasive lack of ambition by management that they truly might riot if that transaction occurred. 

Seems to me that the best approach is to take the money for Alexis and then immediately spend it on one or two players (a defender or two would be a great idea) who would measuably improve the squad.  By the way, Lacazette should eventually be excellent up front - finally a worthy #1 striker for this club.
Then who will take Sanchez' place at the left? Oxlade Chamberlain?

I don't know, but with £50 million burning a hole in your pocket, buy a forward to play on the left and a much needed central defender. 

In the wake of the LA Rams deal, Kroenke can easily spend some dosh to take Arsenal to the next level, if he's willing...
Title: Re: So, Neymar to PSG. This is crazy!
Post by: Somebody on August 03, 2017, 06:21:19 AM
He clearly wanted out from under Messi's shadow. PSG wanted to make a splash and they got their guy. Still don't think they win Champion's league.

It's just an insane amount of money they threw there. Jesus. I think they get it back int two - three years from all the money Neymar is going to bring, but still.

Now, if they also get Alexis Sanchez, they're going to be insane. IDK if they are still in it on the Alexis stuff, but a Neymar, Alexis, Cavani attack with Veratti behind? That is going to be nuts. Still no defence, but man...

From what I've read, Alexis prefers Man City. Maybe Neymar changes that?

I think PSG have obviously improved, but they have other holes they need to address. They may develop the best attack in the world, but you still have to stop the other team from scoring.

We (Arsenal) are not selling Alexis to Man City, or any PL club, per Wenger. But this has not stopped us from selling our players to PL clubs before, so we'll see.

I do hope that PSG pounces on Alexis and we just cash in. I understand not selling him to a PL opponent, but if a Ligue 1 club wants him, sell right away.

That defence is really shady. Two young players in Aurier and Kurzawa on the full backs. They just signed Dani Alves, what does he have left? What does Thiago Silva have left? Marquinhos? Meh. Matuidi and Krychowiak can hold that midfield, I think that's solid. The back line is very shady, though

But check out their attack...

Lucas Moura
Julian Draxler
Angel Di Maria
Edinson Cavani
Marco Veratti
Hatem Ben Afra

And now you add Neymar to that mix... That's ridiculous...

PSG now cannot afford Alexis after capturing Neymar.  Bayern and Chelsea seem to have dropped out long ago, which means that Wenger can sell him now to City for roughly £50 million, or watch him walk at season's end for nothing.  The obvious play is to swallow hard and cut the deal with City, but Arsenal supporters are so fed up with the pervasive lack of ambition by management that they truly might riot if that transaction occurred. 

Seems to me that the best approach is to take the money for Alexis and then immediately spend it on one or two players (a defender or two would be a great idea) who would measuably improve the squad.  By the way, Lacazette should eventually be excellent up front - finally a worthy #1 striker for this club.
Then who will take Sanchez' place at the left? Oxlade Chamberlain?

I don't know, but with £50 million burning a hole in your pocket, buy a forward to play on the left and a much needed central defender. 

In the wake of the LA Rams deal, Kroenke can easily spend some dosh to take Arsenal to the next level, if he's willing...
I don't think a team can buy 2 quality players for 50 million nowadays...especially with Wenger always looking for young talent. Think they don't need a central defender though, Laurence and Gabriel are good options and Per Mertesacker is okay. My guess is that Wenger only tries to buy a replacement with that 50 million. Also Arsenal looks like a PL contender with a real striker tbh, don't think they need Man U type of signings like these 2 years.
Title: Re: So, Neymar to PSG. This is crazy!
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on August 03, 2017, 08:40:38 AM
He clearly wanted out from under Messi's shadow. PSG wanted to make a splash and they got their guy. Still don't think they win Champion's league.

It's just an insane amount of money they threw there. Jesus. I think they get it back int two - three years from all the money Neymar is going to bring, but still.

Now, if they also get Alexis Sanchez, they're going to be insane. IDK if they are still in it on the Alexis stuff, but a Neymar, Alexis, Cavani attack with Veratti behind? That is going to be nuts. Still no defence, but man...

From what I've read, Alexis prefers Man City. Maybe Neymar changes that?

I think PSG have obviously improved, but they have other holes they need to address. They may develop the best attack in the world, but you still have to stop the other team from scoring.

We (Arsenal) are not selling Alexis to Man City, or any PL club, per Wenger. But this has not stopped us from selling our players to PL clubs before, so we'll see.

I do hope that PSG pounces on Alexis and we just cash in. I understand not selling him to a PL opponent, but if a Ligue 1 club wants him, sell right away.

That defence is really shady. Two young players in Aurier and Kurzawa on the full backs. They just signed Dani Alves, what does he have left? What does Thiago Silva have left? Marquinhos? Meh. Matuidi and Krychowiak can hold that midfield, I think that's solid. The back line is very shady, though

But check out their attack...

Lucas Moura
Julian Draxler
Angel Di Maria
Edinson Cavani
Marco Veratti
Hatem Ben Afra

And now you add Neymar to that mix... That's ridiculous...

PSG now cannot afford Alexis after capturing Neymar.  Bayern and Chelsea seem to have dropped out long ago, which means that Wenger can sell him now to City for roughly £50 million, or watch him walk at season's end for nothing.  The obvious play is to swallow hard and cut the deal with City, but Arsenal supporters are so fed up with the pervasive lack of ambition by management that they truly might riot if that transaction occurred. 

Seems to me that the best approach is to take the money for Alexis and then immediately spend it on one or two players (a defender or two would be a great idea) who would measuably improve the squad.  By the way, Lacazette should eventually be excellent up front - finally a worthy #1 striker for this club.
Then who will take Sanchez' place at the left? Oxlade Chamberlain?

Thomas Lemar. Maybe Riyad Mahrez.
Title: Re: So, Neymar to PSG. This is crazy!
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on August 03, 2017, 09:12:24 AM
La Liga is blocking the move. Can a league do that?

http://www.espnfc.com/soccer-transfers/story/3171271/la-liga-refuses-to-accept-psg-cash-for-barcelonas-neymar?sf103429605=1
Title: Re: So, Neymar to PSG. This is crazy!
Post by: Who on August 03, 2017, 10:42:26 AM
La Liga is blocking the move. Can a league do that?

http://www.espnfc.com/soccer-transfers/story/3171271/la-liga-refuses-to-accept-psg-cash-for-barcelonas-neymar?sf103429605=1

I read this earlier

Quote
La Liga is understood to have also explained that it is unclear on the origins of the money and that under its regulations only Spanish clubs have the guaranteed right to buy out a contract. The league has repeatedly accepted buyout clause deposits from foreign clubs. It would not be able to reject the money if Neymar himself turned up to pay it.

The league’s stance is delaying the transfer but will not halt it.
Title: Re: So, Neymar to PSG. This is crazy!
Post by: Somebody on August 03, 2017, 10:50:57 AM
La Liga is blocking the move. Can a league do that?

http://www.espnfc.com/soccer-transfers/story/3171271/la-liga-refuses-to-accept-psg-cash-for-barcelonas-neymar?sf103429605=1
Yeah they can at the expense of getting ****ed by the UEFA. This is actually good for us PL supporters, this would screw La Liga teams a lot, if La Liga keeps on being an ass they would get banned from CL competitions and stuff which would in turn weaken the teams' revenues. This would just speed up our eventual dominance. I hope the PL will have 6 CL spots soon.
Title: Re: So, Neymar to PSG. This is crazy!
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on August 03, 2017, 10:53:47 AM
La Liga is blocking the move. Can a league do that?

http://www.espnfc.com/soccer-transfers/story/3171271/la-liga-refuses-to-accept-psg-cash-for-barcelonas-neymar?sf103429605=1

I read this earlier

Quote
La Liga is understood to have also explained that it is unclear on the origins of the money and that under its regulations only Spanish clubs have the guaranteed right to buy out a contract. The league has repeatedly accepted buyout clause deposits from foreign clubs. It would not be able to reject the money if Neymar himself turned up to pay it.

The league’s stance is delaying the transfer but will not halt it.

This doesn't help Barcelona at all.

The transfer window is closing, and the more they stall this, the less time they have to find a replacement. Even if they are successful, what makes them think that Neymar would be just fine to come back to the Nou Camp.

Title: Re: So, Neymar to PSG. This is crazy!
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on August 03, 2017, 11:04:18 AM
La Liga is blocking the move. Can a league do that?

http://www.espnfc.com/soccer-transfers/story/3171271/la-liga-refuses-to-accept-psg-cash-for-barcelonas-neymar?sf103429605=1
Yeah they can at the expense of getting ****ed by the UEFA. This is actually good for us PL supporters, this would screw La Liga teams a lot, if La Liga keeps on being an ass they would get banned from CL competitions and stuff which would in turn weaken the teams' revenues. This would just speed up our eventual dominance. I hope the PL will have 6 CL spots soon.

I find it funny that the La Liga is complaining about a team doing basically the exact same thing Barcelona have been doing.

I just don't see the benefit here, for the league and for Barca.
Title: Re: So, Neymar to PSG. This is crazy!
Post by: Somebody on August 03, 2017, 11:25:40 AM
Also question for Arsenal fans: you guys paying for Mbappe? Dude is available for a reasonable price of 180 million euros. Selling Sanchez and Ozil should raise a good chunk of the fees, they're not staying anyways lol.
Title: Re: So, Neymar to PSG. This is crazy!
Post by: makaveli on August 03, 2017, 11:48:30 AM
Also question for Arsenal fans: you guys paying for Mbappe? Dude is available for a reasonable price of 180 million euros. Selling Sanchez and Ozil should raise a good chunk of the fees, they're not staying anyways lol.
is that a joke?.
i'm an arsenal fan, on strike thou, until Wangers gets sacked or until they burn him alive. Arsenal will never win anything again with him on helm, who cares about the FA cup when you finish 5th and get embarassed 10-2 against bayern, and every year another team(Man utd 8-2, Chelsea 6-0 etc...)
PSG made a great move, he will be worth of the money and Barca will still be Barca with Messi, that guy is unreal.
Title: Re: So, Neymar to PSG. This is crazy!
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on August 03, 2017, 12:06:00 PM
Also question for Arsenal fans: you guys paying for Mbappe? Dude is available for a reasonable price of 180 million euros. Selling Sanchez and Ozil should raise a good chunk of the fees, they're not staying anyways lol.

No. Maybe if it's £80 million and 1 we could.

I think Ozil stays, from what I've been reading, it's likely he stays. I've been ready to move on from Alexis Sanchez since the start of the window, whatever happens, I'm prepared for it. I think the only thing I'm not prepared for is if he goes to Tottenham.

We need another CM, preferably that Leon Goretzka kid from Schalke that have been linked. We need a Santi Cazorla replacement, and it drives me nuts that we keep insisting on Thomas Lemar, when Monaco is playing the ultimate hardball.

Also question for Arsenal fans: you guys paying for Mbappe? Dude is available for a reasonable price of 180 million euros. Selling Sanchez and Ozil should raise a good chunk of the fees, they're not staying anyways lol.
is that a joke?.
i'm an arsenal fan, on strike thou, until Wangers gets sacked or until they burn him alive. Arsenal will never win anything again with him on helm, who cares about the FA cup when you finish 5th and get embarassed 10-2 against bayern, and every year another team(Man utd 8-2, Chelsea 6-0 etc...)

You not excited for Lacazette? I mean, I'm Wenger Out too, but Lacazette...
Title: Re: So, Neymar to PSG. This is crazy!
Post by: makaveli on August 03, 2017, 12:41:32 PM
Also question for Arsenal fans: you guys paying for Mbappe? Dude is available for a reasonable price of 180 million euros. Selling Sanchez and Ozil should raise a good chunk of the fees, they're not staying anyways lol.

No. Maybe if it's £80 million and 1 we could.

I think Ozil stays, from what I've been reading, it's likely he stays. I've been ready to move on from Alexis Sanchez since the start of the window, whatever happens, I'm prepared for it. I think the only thing I'm not prepared for is if he goes to Tottenham.

We need another CM, preferably that Leon Goretzka kid from Schalke that have been linked. We need a Santi Cazorla replacement, and it drives me nuts that we keep insisting on Thomas Lemar, when Monaco is playing the ultimate hardball.

Also question for Arsenal fans: you guys paying for Mbappe? Dude is available for a reasonable price of 180 million euros. Selling Sanchez and Ozil should raise a good chunk of the fees, they're not staying anyways lol.
is that a joke?.
i'm an arsenal fan, on strike thou, until Wangers gets sacked or until they burn him alive. Arsenal will never win anything again with him on helm, who cares about the FA cup when you finish 5th and get embarassed 10-2 against bayern, and every year another team(Man utd 8-2, Chelsea 6-0 etc...)

You not excited for Lacazette? I mean, I'm Wenger Out too, but Lacazette...
yeah, great addition, but IMHO Wenger cant get our players in the right mindset anymore, he lost the lockerroom last year in the last third of the year.
BTW i'll be at the Arsenal vs Brighton game in October
Title: Re: So, Neymar to PSG. This is crazy!
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on August 03, 2017, 12:52:40 PM
Also question for Arsenal fans: you guys paying for Mbappe? Dude is available for a reasonable price of 180 million euros. Selling Sanchez and Ozil should raise a good chunk of the fees, they're not staying anyways lol.

No. Maybe if it's £80 million and 1 we could.

I think Ozil stays, from what I've been reading, it's likely he stays. I've been ready to move on from Alexis Sanchez since the start of the window, whatever happens, I'm prepared for it. I think the only thing I'm not prepared for is if he goes to Tottenham.

We need another CM, preferably that Leon Goretzka kid from Schalke that have been linked. We need a Santi Cazorla replacement, and it drives me nuts that we keep insisting on Thomas Lemar, when Monaco is playing the ultimate hardball.

Also question for Arsenal fans: you guys paying for Mbappe? Dude is available for a reasonable price of 180 million euros. Selling Sanchez and Ozil should raise a good chunk of the fees, they're not staying anyways lol.
is that a joke?.
i'm an arsenal fan, on strike thou, until Wangers gets sacked or until they burn him alive. Arsenal will never win anything again with him on helm, who cares about the FA cup when you finish 5th and get embarassed 10-2 against bayern, and every year another team(Man utd 8-2, Chelsea 6-0 etc...)

You not excited for Lacazette? I mean, I'm Wenger Out too, but Lacazette...
yeah, great addition, but IMHO Wenger cant get our players in the right mindset anymore, he lost the lockerroom last year in the last third of the year.
BTW i'll be at the Arsenal vs Brighton game in October

Nice! And I agree. I hope his last two years will include a transition year where we set up some sort of a structure that would take over when he's gone. I want him out, but we really don't have that kind of a structure in place for a new manager to come in. He does pretty much everything for this club.
Title: Re: So, Neymar to PSG. This is crazy!
Post by: ederson on August 03, 2017, 01:47:35 PM
It is official

Barcelona just announced the transfer
Title: Re: So, Neymar to PSG. This is crazy!
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on August 03, 2017, 02:47:00 PM
It is official

Barcelona just announced the transfer

Now it's a matter of who replaces him?

There's this little fun game for that.

https://www.barcablaugranes.com/2017/8/2/16084194/neymar-replacement-dybala-griezmann-mbappe-dembele-psg
Title: Re: So, Neymar to PSG. This is crazy!
Post by: ederson on August 03, 2017, 03:09:06 PM
Juventus says Dybala is not for sale and i don't think Dybala wants to play with Messi
Title: Re: So, Neymar to PSG. This is crazy!
Post by: Sixth Man on August 03, 2017, 04:51:12 PM
La Liga is blocking the move. Can a league do that?

http://www.espnfc.com/soccer-transfers/story/3171271/la-liga-refuses-to-accept-psg-cash-for-barcelonas-neymar?sf103429605=1

I read this earlier

Quote
La Liga is understood to have also explained that it is unclear on the origins of the money and that under its regulations only Spanish clubs have the guaranteed right to buy out a contract. The league has repeatedly accepted buyout clause deposits from foreign clubs. It would not be able to reject the money if Neymar himself turned up to pay it.

The league’s stance is delaying the transfer but will not halt it.

This doesn't help Barcelona at all.

The transfer window is closing, and the more they stall this, the less time they have to find a replacement. Even if they are successful, what makes them think that Neymar would be just fine to come back to the Nou Camp.

This is a huge blow to Barca, not only because of its potential effects on the pitch, but in a psychological sense, as well.  PSG just swooped in, grabbed the future face of the club, and flew off with him in its talons.  I'm guessing that this is going down quite well in Doha, especially given the current political confrontation between Qatar and the other gulf states. 

It will be fascinating to see what Barca does with this big pot of money.  Will some of it be utilized to pay off a bit of the nearly $300 million in debt it is carrying?  Or will it all be used to fund incoming transfers? 
Title: Re: So, Neymar to PSG. This is crazy!
Post by: Somebody on August 03, 2017, 10:11:54 PM
Also question for Arsenal fans: you guys paying for Mbappe? Dude is available for a reasonable price of 180 million euros. Selling Sanchez and Ozil should raise a good chunk of the fees, they're not staying anyways lol.

No. Maybe if it's £80 million and 1 we could.

I think Ozil stays, from what I've been reading, it's likely he stays. I've been ready to move on from Alexis Sanchez since the start of the window, whatever happens, I'm prepared for it. I think the only thing I'm not prepared for is if he goes to Tottenham.

We need another CM, preferably that Leon Goretzka kid from Schalke that have been linked. We need a Santi Cazorla replacement, and it drives me nuts that we keep insisting on Thomas Lemar, when Monaco is playing the ultimate hardball.

Also question for Arsenal fans: you guys paying for Mbappe? Dude is available for a reasonable price of 180 million euros. Selling Sanchez and Ozil should raise a good chunk of the fees, they're not staying anyways lol.
is that a joke?.
i'm an arsenal fan, on strike thou, until Wangers gets sacked or until they burn him alive. Arsenal will never win anything again with him on helm, who cares about the FA cup when you finish 5th and get embarassed 10-2 against bayern, and every year another team(Man utd 8-2, Chelsea 6-0 etc...)

You not excited for Lacazette? I mean, I'm Wenger Out too, but Lacazette...
yeah, great addition, but IMHO Wenger cant get our players in the right mindset anymore, he lost the lockerroom last year in the last third of the year.
BTW i'll be at the Arsenal vs Brighton game in October

Nice! And I agree. I hope his last two years will include a transition year where we set up some sort of a structure that would take over when he's gone. I want him out, but we really don't have that kind of a structure in place for a new manager to come in. He does pretty much everything for this club.
Well...imo you guys shouldn't be all gloom and doom...Wenger is now willing to spend for players and he offered 120 million pounds for Mbappe before iirc, only to get rejected. If he sells some players who he doesn't see eye to eye with like Sanchez, I think you guys are only paying 100 million euros for Mbappe with the rest being covered by the money you get from selling, which is an absolute steal for such a sensational young player. Arsenal does look good this season, I can see them winning a double (2 out of EFL Cup,FA Cup and EL), think that's a pretty good result for you guys after a down season. As for Wenger out he's retiring from few years later anyways, so let him do whatever he wants lol, dude is a legendary manager.
Title: Re: So, Neymar to PSG. This is crazy!
Post by: Somebody on August 03, 2017, 10:14:21 PM
La Liga is blocking the move. Can a league do that?

http://www.espnfc.com/soccer-transfers/story/3171271/la-liga-refuses-to-accept-psg-cash-for-barcelonas-neymar?sf103429605=1

I read this earlier

Quote
La Liga is understood to have also explained that it is unclear on the origins of the money and that under its regulations only Spanish clubs have the guaranteed right to buy out a contract. The league has repeatedly accepted buyout clause deposits from foreign clubs. It would not be able to reject the money if Neymar himself turned up to pay it.

The league’s stance is delaying the transfer but will not halt it.

This doesn't help Barcelona at all.

The transfer window is closing, and the more they stall this, the less time they have to find a replacement. Even if they are successful, what makes them think that Neymar would be just fine to come back to the Nou Camp.

This is a huge blow to Barca, not only because of its potential effects on the pitch, but in a psychological sense, as well.  PSG just swooped in, grabbed the future face of the club, and flew off with him in its talons.  I'm guessing that this is going down quite well in Doha, especially given the current political confrontation between Qatar and the other gulf states. 

It will be fascinating to see what Barca does with this big pot of money.  Will some of it be utilized to pay off a bit of the nearly $300 million in debt it is carrying?  Or will it all be used to fund incoming transfers?
I don't think anyone would sell to them, Barca has been doing this for years. Imo this is the start of the fall of La Liga, Barca won't be as strong and Real will follow after Ronaldo ages. Good for us PL fans, we're eventually getting 6 CL spots 8)
Title: Re: So, Neymar to PSG. This is crazy!
Post by: Somebody on August 03, 2017, 10:18:40 PM
Also question for Arsenal fans: you guys paying for Mbappe? Dude is available for a reasonable price of 180 million euros. Selling Sanchez and Ozil should raise a good chunk of the fees, they're not staying anyways lol.
is that a joke?.
i'm an arsenal fan, on strike thou, until Wangers gets sacked or until they burn him alive. Arsenal will never win anything again with him on helm, who cares about the FA cup when you finish 5th and get embarassed 10-2 against bayern, and every year another team(Man utd 8-2, Chelsea 6-0 etc...)
PSG made a great move, he will be worth of the money and Barca will still be Barca with Messi, that guy is unreal.
I'll be seeing you singing Wenger's praises when Arsenal wins a double this year.
Title: Re: So, Neymar to PSG. This is crazy!
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on August 03, 2017, 11:41:43 PM
Also question for Arsenal fans: you guys paying for Mbappe? Dude is available for a reasonable price of 180 million euros. Selling Sanchez and Ozil should raise a good chunk of the fees, they're not staying anyways lol.
is that a joke?.
i'm an arsenal fan, on strike thou, until Wangers gets sacked or until they burn him alive. Arsenal will never win anything again with him on helm, who cares about the FA cup when you finish 5th and get embarassed 10-2 against bayern, and every year another team(Man utd 8-2, Chelsea 6-0 etc...)
PSG made a great move, he will be worth of the money and Barca will still be Barca with Messi, that guy is unreal.
I'll be seeing you singing Wenger's praises when Arsenal wins a double this year.

Excuse me? We will win the Treble this year, add the Europa League trophy to that.
Title: Re: So, Neymar to PSG. This is crazy!
Post by: makaveli on August 04, 2017, 01:08:02 AM
Also question for Arsenal fans: you guys paying for Mbappe? Dude is available for a reasonable price of 180 million euros. Selling Sanchez and Ozil should raise a good chunk of the fees, they're not staying anyways lol.
is that a joke?.
i'm an arsenal fan, on strike thou, until Wangers gets sacked or until they burn him alive. Arsenal will never win anything again with him on helm, who cares about the FA cup when you finish 5th and get embarassed 10-2 against bayern, and every year another team(Man utd 8-2, Chelsea 6-0 etc...)
PSG made a great move, he will be worth of the money and Barca will still be Barca with Messi, that guy is unreal.
I'll be seeing you singing Wenger's praises when Arsenal wins a double this year.
this years arsenal will struggle to make it into top 4. at least we don't have to worry about playing Real, Barca or Bayern this year
Title: Re: So, Neymar to PSG. This is crazy!
Post by: Somebody on August 04, 2017, 01:52:12 AM
Also question for Arsenal fans: you guys paying for Mbappe? Dude is available for a reasonable price of 180 million euros. Selling Sanchez and Ozil should raise a good chunk of the fees, they're not staying anyways lol.
is that a joke?.
i'm an arsenal fan, on strike thou, until Wangers gets sacked or until they burn him alive. Arsenal will never win anything again with him on helm, who cares about the FA cup when you finish 5th and get embarassed 10-2 against bayern, and every year another team(Man utd 8-2, Chelsea 6-0 etc...)
PSG made a great move, he will be worth of the money and Barca will still be Barca with Messi, that guy is unreal.
I'll be seeing you singing Wenger's praises when Arsenal wins a double this year.
this years arsenal will struggle to make it into top 4. at least we don't have to worry about playing Real, Barca or Bayern this year

Um is that a shot at United lol, imo we can beat those teams.
Title: Re: So, Neymar to PSG. This is crazy!
Post by: ederson on August 10, 2017, 11:19:26 AM
marca the spanish sports newspaper reports that PSG got Mpape too for 160m  :o
Title: €155 million for Mbappe
Post by: Who on August 27, 2017, 02:43:55 PM
Holy crap!

Quote
Paris Saint-Germain have agreed a €155m (£143m) fee with Monaco for Kylian Mbappé which could rise to €188m (£174m) with potential add-ons. They have agreed the terms of a five-year deal with the player, but are yet to convince Uefa that they will be able to comply with financial fair play rules if they sign the young Frenchman in the same window as paying €222m (£198m) for Neymar.

How in the world can they afford to pay €155 million for Mbappe after €222 million for Neymar!?
Title: Re: So, Neymar to PSG. This is crazy!
Post by: ederson on August 27, 2017, 02:55:47 PM
Considering the owner is a fund from Qatar everything is easy!


In order to avoid FFP problems the player will join PSG this year on loan with the condition that PSG will buy him to matter what next summer