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Title: semi ojeleye
Post by: rollie mass on July 15, 2017, 06:04:40 PM
Gets signed for 4 years-this guy is going to be special-
Have these guys watch tapes of Dave Cowens and what can be done with insane desire-
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Title: Re: semi ojeleye
Post by: Miranda-Kerr on July 15, 2017, 06:28:04 PM
It's true...it's [dang] true

He's mature and can play a role straight away.

Will certainly provide more than DJ who's been waived in the process
Title: Re: semi ojeleye
Post by: Boise To Boston on July 15, 2017, 09:48:20 PM
Gets signed for 4 years-this guy is going to be special-
Have these guys watch tapes of Dave Cowens and what can be done with insane desire-
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Semi LOCKED DOWN Dennis Smith Jr early in the 1st quarter at the top of the key in an isolation play. His ability to shut done such an explosive player without help  is really exciting. I hate comparing to stars, but his 3&D ability reminds me a lot of Draymond Green. He'll probably never have the handles and passing that Dray has, but as a 3&D guy I don't think it's unrealistic to think he could match him in those two areas. Very exciting!
Title: Re: semi ojeleye
Post by: ashanm10 on July 15, 2017, 09:55:38 PM
im not yet convinced, id like to see him be able to dribble and pass, and more confident with consistency on the shot

hes got ways to go :)

but i guess on track, just got to make this year count.
Title: Re: semi ojeleye
Post by: moiso on July 15, 2017, 09:56:55 PM
I just hope he's halfway as special as Gerald Green and Nader, Rollies two recent favorites.
Title: Re: semi ojeleye
Post by: Surferdad on July 15, 2017, 10:03:50 PM
im not yet convinced, id like to see him be able to dribble and pass, and more confident with consistency on the shot

hes got ways to go :)

but i guess on track, just got to make this year count.
I agree.  A bit underwhelming in SL overall.  He has no handles, only shoots the 3.  Defense seemed ok but nothing special, maybe I wasn't paying attention.  He looked really gassed when he came out of the game.
Title: Re: semi ojeleye
Post by: droopdog7 on July 15, 2017, 10:08:43 PM
A few second round picks turn out okay.  The rest never make it.  So the odds are stacked against him.
Title: Re: semi ojeleye
Post by: rollie mass on July 16, 2017, 04:55:53 AM
I just hope he's halfway as special as Gerald Green and Nader, Rollies two recent favorites.
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Do i detect an undertone of sarcasm

 Don't forget jaylen  --but its so easy to praise high draft choices
 i like the guys who work to even get a spot on bench
Nader made the roster with his position well stocked
and he was better than rj or young last year-

Ojeleye defense is really special with all the screens and switching plus he knocks down threes
This guy was considered best athlete in draft with his combined scoring in the combine testing.

Nader was such late choice he deserves to be commended,that he made it is special
Green i called a weapon in Brads hands and he saved us in playoffs
Title: Re: semi ojeleye
Post by: Chris22 on July 16, 2017, 07:24:15 AM
20 minutes last night and not a single rebound.
Yikes.
Title: Re: semi ojeleye
Post by: jambr380 on July 16, 2017, 08:29:33 AM
Gets signed for 4 years-this guy is going to be special-
Have these guys watch tapes of Dave Cowens and what can be done with insane desire-
i

Semi LOCKED DOWN Dennis Smith Jr early in the 1st quarter at the top of the key in an isolation play. His ability to shut done such an explosive player without help  is really exciting. I hate comparing to stars, but his 3&D ability reminds me a lot of Draymond Green. He'll probably never have the handles and passing that Dray has, but as a 3&D guy I don't think it's unrealistic to think he could match him in those two areas. Very exciting!

I think we would all be excited (and shocked!) if, at some point in his career, Semi wins DPOY. It's always a bit unfair to compare these late round 6'7"-6'8" dudes to one of the most successful 2nd round picks in history.

If he can be a serviceable off the bench 3 and D role player, then that will be great for him.
Title: Re: semi ojeleye
Post by: cltc5 on July 16, 2017, 08:37:45 AM
I really like his long range shooting. Needs work but it's there.  If he's a capable defender that's icing. And an NBA ready body already
Title: Re: semi ojeleye
Post by: Surferdad on July 16, 2017, 08:40:40 AM
I really like his long range shooting. Needs work but it's there.  If he's a capable defender that's icing. And an NBA ready body already
Disagree.  It's not icing, it's a requirement for a 3-and-D player.  Guys who can just shoot the 3 but do little else are dime-a-dozen as we've seen in SL.
Title: Re: semi ojeleye
Post by: Beat LA on July 16, 2017, 08:43:31 AM
20 minutes last night and not a single rebound.
Yikes.

Sounds like a Celtic already ::).
Title: Re: semi ojeleye
Post by: PAOBoston on July 16, 2017, 08:49:20 AM
Potential cheaper Crowder replacement.
Title: Re: semi ojeleye
Post by: rollie mass on July 16, 2017, 09:06:04 AM
Best athlete in draft per combine-i have watched him box out properly and his lane agility was 3rd in combine and he is 240 lbs-Brad Stevens knows what he has got defensively
The rebounding with his high standing jump is a paradox-maybe its from camping out on perimeter spreading the floor
Maybe at defensive end he boxes out and doesn't release  or was he defending perimeter players
Aggression is a skill that he may lack at moment.A few weeks with crowder and marcus might bring out the bark in the dog.
Title: Re: semi ojeleye
Post by: Wretch on July 16, 2017, 10:14:35 AM
I'm excited about Semi and his potential as a Replacement for Crowder. Crowder and his contract have significant value in the current salary cap environment. If Semi can replace Crowder's production on a rookie cobtract DA could flip Crowder for a protected 1st or young player(s) to a team that needs needs a below market salary like Crowder's.
Title: Re: semi ojeleye
Post by: Eddie20 on July 16, 2017, 10:49:42 AM
Gets signed for 4 years-this guy is going to be special-
Have these guys watch tapes of Dave Cowens and what can be done with insane desire-

Aggression is a skill that he may lack at moment.A few weeks with crowder and marcus might bring out the bark in the dog.

Special? That's the conclusion you've made after watching about 8 summer league games against 90% of competition that will never be a part of an NBA rotation? Really? Haven't we seen this movie before? You said Jerebko would have career shooting percentages because he now has a basket as his house. He's now on the Jazz. You said Green was a human IED. He's now a Free Agent. Even Nader, who is a decent player that I hope succeeds, you've overrated to no end.

Unless "special" is your definition of "hopefully he ends up cracking the rotation before his contract runs out" then I'll just chalk this up as just some more Rollie hyperbole. But maybe I'm wrong, perhaps all he really needs to do is watch Cowens highlight videos on an endless loop and hang out with Smart and Crowder for a week.
Title: Re: semi ojeleye
Post by: hwangjini_1 on July 16, 2017, 11:06:22 AM
20 minutes last night and not a single rebound.
Yikes.

Sounds like a Celtic already ::).
you mean a celtic such as zizic, right?
Title: Re: semi ojeleye
Post by: CelticsElite on July 16, 2017, 11:10:01 AM
He shot 43% from 3 on 7 attempts per game
Title: Re: semi ojeleye
Post by: hwangjini_1 on July 16, 2017, 11:11:03 AM
He shot 43% from 3 on 7 attempts per game
thanks, but is this summer league? college? both? his backyard?  ;)
Title: Re: semi ojeleye
Post by: CelticsElite on July 16, 2017, 11:12:01 AM
He shot 43% from 3 on 7 attempts per game
thanks, but is this summer league? college? both? his backyard?  ;)

Las Vegas summer league , all games
Title: Re: semi ojeleye
Post by: moiso on July 16, 2017, 11:24:27 AM
He shot 43% from 3 on 7 attempts per game
thanks, but is this summer league? college? both? his backyard?  ;)
Nerf hoop on his door ;)
Title: Re: semi ojeleye
Post by: CelticsElite on July 16, 2017, 11:43:34 AM
He shot 43% from 3 on 7 attempts per game
thanks, but is this summer league? college? both? his backyard?  ;)
Nerf hoop on his door ;)
those things are harder than actual basketball hoops so I'd be impressed lol
Title: Re: semi ojeleye
Post by: mrceltics2013 on July 16, 2017, 12:10:29 PM
He is definitely a bigger version of Smart so I'm not a fan. He just stands behind the 3 point line gunning 3s hoping they drop. If you're not on golden state the majority of your shots should not be from the 3point line.
Title: Re: semi ojeleye
Post by: hwangjini_1 on July 16, 2017, 12:19:40 PM
He is definitely a bigger version of Smart so I'm not a fan. He just stands behind the 3 point line gunning 3s hoping they drop. If you're not on golden state the majority of your shots should not be from the 3point line.
he made 43 percent of them in summer league, how is this "hoping" as opposed to actually "doing"?

Besides, a bigger version of smart who can shoot threes well is borderline all star. I would take smart with a three point shot, let alone a taller version.  ;D
Title: Re: semi ojeleye
Post by: IDreamCeltics on July 16, 2017, 12:44:20 PM
Gets signed for 4 years-this guy is going to be special-
Have these guys watch tapes of Dave Cowens and what can be done with insane desire-

Aggression is a skill that he may lack at moment.A few weeks with crowder and marcus might bring out the bark in the dog.

Special? That's the conclusion you've made after watching about 8 summer league games against 90% of competition that will never be a part of an NBA rotation? Really? Haven't we seen this movie before? You said Jerebko would have career shooting percentages because he now has a basket as his house. He's now on the Jazz. You said Green was a human IED. He's now a Free Agent. Even Nader, who is a decent player that I hope succeeds, you've overrated to no end.

Unless "special" is your definition of "hopefully he ends up cracking the rotation before his contract runs out" then I'll just chalk this up as just some more Rollie hyperbole. But maybe I'm wrong, perhaps all he really needs to do is watch Cowens highlight videos on an endless loop and hang out with Smart and Crowder for a week.

It's not just Rollie who thinks highly of this guy.  In college he was an analytics wet-dream.  This was an extremely deep draft so some really great players fell into the late-first/second round. 

If Semi had the same college season he just had back in the 2015-2016 college season he would have been a lottery pick.  Look at Baylor senior Taurean Prince who went 12th in that draft.
Title: Re: semi ojeleye
Post by: footey on July 16, 2017, 12:47:30 PM
Im much higher on Yabu than Semi, offensively.  Think Semi can be used defensively in special situations. Impressed with his foot work.
Title: Re: semi ojeleye
Post by: SHAQATTACK on July 16, 2017, 01:26:40 PM
hope he is not another low LOW IQ ....Mickey or Young
Title: Re: semi ojeleye
Post by: ManUp on July 16, 2017, 01:55:16 PM
A Three and D, Jeff Green.

A more natural shooter and better defender. He's shorter, but stronger and faster.

I hated Jeff Green, but that was because of his poor motor. I expect Semi to be able to defend, shoot the 3, and finish well in transition with his athleticism that makes him a solid rotational guy. If he can rebound at an above average rate he could be a starting caliber player down the line. Great pick by Danny.
Title: Re: semi ojeleye
Post by: Beat LA on July 16, 2017, 02:07:08 PM
20 minutes last night and not a single rebound.
Yikes.

Sounds like a Celtic already ::).
you mean a celtic such as zizic, right?

And Captain Neckbeard.
Title: Re: semi ojeleye
Post by: hwangjini_1 on July 16, 2017, 02:24:20 PM
hope he is not another low LOW IQ ....Mickey or Young
What indication do you have of this? any quotes or links to support this? If not, what possible reason do you have for making such a point?
Title: Re: semi ojeleye
Post by: CelticsElite on July 16, 2017, 02:53:28 PM
He is definitely a bigger version of Smart so I'm not a fan. He just stands behind the 3 point line gunning 3s hoping they drop. If you're not on golden state the majority of your shots should not be from the 3point line.
he made 43 percent of them in summer league, how is this "hoping" as opposed to actually "doing"?

Besides, a bigger version of smart who can shoot threes well is borderline all star. I would take smart with a three point shot, let alone a taller version.  ;D
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Title: Re: semi ojeleye
Post by: Ilikesports17 on July 16, 2017, 03:00:16 PM
He is definitely a bigger version of Smart so I'm not a fan. He just stands behind the 3 point line gunning 3s hoping they drop. If you're not on golden state the majority of your shots should not be from the 3point line.
he made 43 percent of them in summer league, how is this "hoping" as opposed to actually "doing"?

Besides, a bigger version of smart who can shoot threes well is borderline all star. I would take smart with a three point shot, let alone a taller version.  ;D
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A 6'7" Marcus who shoots 40% from deep is an all-NBA level player. Unfortunately, Semi is not a 6'7" Marcus Smart.
Title: Re: semi ojeleye
Post by: rollie mass on July 16, 2017, 03:12:00 PM
I can tell you now and it didn't take long -
he has elite lane agility,vertical and sprint in a 240lb cut body -i watched him bully players from turning the corner ,i watched his switching ability ,i watched quick guards unable to turn the corner  and he shot 42% from three
this guy stays down and slides and pursues

i watched every video which featured tatum and semi put out by Hoops House and was impressed then-then trailed his combine results, workouts and character
By special i mean an elite defender not a durant ,leonard or green-Brad thinks his defense translates already

Defensive DNA sometimes is a gift--i think he was 5th in vertical,3rd in lane agility and 8th in sprint-i read his three scores made him best athlete in draft and 240
Ojeleye also deferred to the pecking order of Jaylen,Tatum and Nader-