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Title: Las Vegas Summer League Thread
Post by: jpotter33 on July 07, 2017, 09:56:49 PM
Watching this Lakers game. Ingram is impressive, but Ball is very unimpressive right now. His shot is crap from NBA range, and his lack of a midrange game is obviously killing him.
Title: Re: Las Vegas Summer League Thread
Post by: jpotter33 on July 07, 2017, 10:03:46 PM
1-9 on threes now. They're not playing up on him, so he's just taking the easy long ball. His lack of an in-between game is going to really hurt him in the NBA, especially if he doesn't improve his three.
Title: Re: Las Vegas Summer League Thread
Post by: liam on July 07, 2017, 10:05:41 PM
Watch these summer league games that are basically street ball games makes me miss NBA games even more.
Title: Re: Las Vegas Summer League Thread
Post by: liam on July 07, 2017, 10:06:47 PM
Thornwell looks like a player for The Clips...
Title: Re: Las Vegas Summer League Thread
Post by: CelticSooner on July 07, 2017, 10:07:47 PM
If Ball isn't dominating the ball and running the show he'll just be another guy. Do something besides stand around the arc.
Title: Re: Las Vegas Summer League Thread
Post by: jpotter33 on July 07, 2017, 10:09:22 PM
It kills me how much Rob Pelinka looks like Rob Lowe. He could be his body double.
Title: Re: Las Vegas Summer League Thread
Post by: liam on July 07, 2017, 10:18:53 PM
Ball hasn't been all that impressive so far but he has 4 assists and 4 rebounds and 5 points. That's like half of a triple double...
Title: Re: Las Vegas Summer League Thread
Post by: footey on July 07, 2017, 10:22:34 PM
Thorneell reminds me of young Joe Johnson.
Title: Re: Las Vegas Summer League Thread
Post by: liam on July 07, 2017, 10:23:03 PM
The announcer in the Clips/Lakers game show Fultz and said he was here from The Boston Celtics... sad...
Title: Re: Las Vegas Summer League Thread
Post by: liam on July 07, 2017, 10:24:04 PM
Thomas Bryant is really showing me something in this game, too bad he's a Laker...
Title: Re: Las Vegas Summer League Thread
Post by: liam on July 07, 2017, 10:32:10 PM
Ball won't be able to defend at the NBA level...
Title: Re: Las Vegas Summer League Thread
Post by: footey on July 07, 2017, 10:36:54 PM
Look forward to Josh Jackson tonight.
Title: Re: Las Vegas Summer League Thread
Post by: max215 on July 07, 2017, 10:37:32 PM
Watching this Lakers game. Ingram is impressive, but Ball is very unimpressive right now. His shot is crap from NBA range, and his lack of a midrange game is obviously killing him.

I think he'll be fine from three; he's just having a rough night. The mid-range game/late-clock offense is really troubling. He's struggling with the length, athleticism, and speed of Summer League. The NBA is a whole different monster. Although, the spacing and higher quality surrounding talent (maybe not on the Lakers lol) will help him a lot. Remember, a lot of what makes Lonzo special is enhancing his teammates. In Summer League, that's a lot harder to do.
Title: Re: Las Vegas Summer League Thread
Post by: max215 on July 07, 2017, 10:39:03 PM
Look forward to Josh Jackson tonight.

Looking forward to that Kings juggernaut. Hield, Fox, Skal, Giles, PapaG, Jackson, Mason, Richardson. That's a beyond stacked team.
Title: Re: Las Vegas Summer League Thread
Post by: liam on July 07, 2017, 10:44:09 PM
Watching this Lakers game. Ingram is impressive, but Ball is very unimpressive right now. His shot is crap from NBA range, and his lack of a midrange game is obviously killing him.

I think he'll be fine from three; he's just having a rough night. The mid-range game/late-clock offense is really troubling. He's struggling with the length, athleticism, and speed of Summer League. The NBA is a whole different monster. Although, the spacing and higher quality surrounding talent (maybe not on the Lakers lol) will help him a lot. Remember, a lot of what makes Lonzo special is enhancing his teammates. In Summer League, that's a lot harder to do.

For anyone thinking The Lakers are going to be anything but terrible this year, The Lakers are losing with some of there "starters" against a Clippers team with no 1st rounders. I don't think the Lakers have a player can defend.
Title: Re: Las Vegas Summer League Thread
Post by: jpotter33 on July 07, 2017, 10:46:27 PM
Watching this Lakers game. Ingram is impressive, but Ball is very unimpressive right now. His shot is crap from NBA range, and his lack of a midrange game is obviously killing him.

I think he'll be fine from three; he's just having a rough night. The mid-range game/late-clock offense is really troubling. He's struggling with the length, athleticism, and speed of Summer League. The NBA is a whole different monster. Although, the spacing and higher quality surrounding talent (maybe not on the Lakers lol) will help him a lot. Remember, a lot of what makes Lonzo special is enhancing his teammates. In Summer League, that's a lot harder to do.

I'm not as sold on his shot as you. He's been all over the place with his shot tonight, and that funky extra movement in his shot will only make him inconsistent.

But you're right about setting up how teammates. I'm just not sure how effective that is in the league anymore. He seems more and more like early Rondo without the defense or finishing ability, along with a much higher willingness to chuck from deep.

Ingram has looked much better, though.
Title: Re: Las Vegas Summer League Thread
Post by: max215 on July 07, 2017, 10:52:58 PM
Watching this Lakers game. Ingram is impressive, but Ball is very unimpressive right now. His shot is crap from NBA range, and his lack of a midrange game is obviously killing him.

I think he'll be fine from three; he's just having a rough night. The mid-range game/late-clock offense is really troubling. He's struggling with the length, athleticism, and speed of Summer League. The NBA is a whole different monster. Although, the spacing and higher quality surrounding talent (maybe not on the Lakers lol) will help him a lot. Remember, a lot of what makes Lonzo special is enhancing his teammates. In Summer League, that's a lot harder to do.

I'm not as sold on his shot as you. He's been all over the place with his shot.

But you're right about setting up how teammates. I'm just not sure how effective that is in the league anymore. He seems more and more like early Rondo without the defense or finishing ability, along with a much higher willingness to chuck from deep.

Ingram has looked much better, though.

This is part of the reason why Lonzo might not have as great of a chance of traditional superstardom as most top-5 picks. However, he's like the ultimate complimentary player on offense. If you give him decent talent to work with, he'll make it great. If you give him great talent, he'll make it special. All of this is why I think he could've worked on the Celtics. Surrounded by guys like IT and Hayward, he could be special. He's been rough in this game. Unfortunately, this game has highlighted a lot of his most concerning weaknesses, but I'm still high on him.
Title: Re: Las Vegas Summer League Thread
Post by: jay on July 07, 2017, 10:53:19 PM
I like Cory Jefferson - playing for the Spurs. Would love to give him a shot as a backup 4 here. Is from Tacoma just like IT and also was last pick in the draft like IT.

6'9" can score and he rebounds pretty well.
Title: Re: Las Vegas Summer League Thread
Post by: liam on July 07, 2017, 10:55:25 PM
Watching this Lakers game. Ingram is impressive, but Ball is very unimpressive right now. His shot is crap from NBA range, and his lack of a midrange game is obviously killing him.

I think he'll be fine from three; he's just having a rough night. The mid-range game/late-clock offense is really troubling. He's struggling with the length, athleticism, and speed of Summer League. The NBA is a whole different monster. Although, the spacing and higher quality surrounding talent (maybe not on the Lakers lol) will help him a lot. Remember, a lot of what makes Lonzo special is enhancing his teammates. In Summer League, that's a lot harder to do.

I'm not as sold on his shot as you. He's been all over the place with his shot.

But you're right about setting up how teammates. I'm just not sure how effective that is in the league anymore. He seems more and more like early Rondo without the defense or finishing ability, along with a much higher willingness to chuck from deep.

Ingram has looked much better, though.

This is part of the reason why Lonzo might not have as great of a chance of traditional superstardom as most top-5 picks. However, he's like the ultimate complimentary player on offense. If you give him decent talent to work with, he'll make it great. If you give him great talent, he'll make it special. All of this is why I think he could've worked on the Celtics. Surrounded by guys like IT and Hayward, he could be special. He's been rough in this game. Unfortunately, this game has highlighted a lot of his most concerning weaknesses, but I'm still high on him.

Defense and lack of Hustle seem like the main problems. Lonzo only seems to care about one end of the court.
Title: Re: Las Vegas Summer League Thread
Post by: jpotter33 on July 07, 2017, 10:58:05 PM
Man, I'm not sure Ball could look much worse than tonight. Can't hit crap and outside of a few good passes, he's had downright terrible decision-making and shot selection.
Title: Re: Las Vegas Summer League Thread
Post by: liam on July 07, 2017, 11:15:22 PM
Lonzo played a very lazy game tonight. Lazy passes, Lazy defense, lazy shot selection...
Title: Re: Las Vegas Summer League Thread
Post by: tazzmaniac on July 07, 2017, 11:17:57 PM
Man, I'm not sure Ball could look much worse than tonight. Can't hit crap and outside of a few good passes, he's had downright terrible decision-making and shot selection.
Lavar ain't going to be talking much after that game.  Really ugly. 

Don't see why Vegas and others think Ball is the favorite for ROY.  He was in a perfect situation at UCLA with 4 good shooters on the court.  He's not going to have that with the Lakers. 
Title: Re: Las Vegas Summer League Thread
Post by: liam on July 07, 2017, 11:19:26 PM
Phoenix vs Sacramento is almost the regular season teams playing against each other, very exciting..
Title: Re: Las Vegas Summer League Thread
Post by: liam on July 07, 2017, 11:21:06 PM
Fox has crazy energy...
Title: Re: Las Vegas Summer League Thread
Post by: max215 on July 07, 2017, 11:25:51 PM
Fox looking good. He might be the fastest player in the NBA.
Title: Re: Las Vegas Summer League Thread
Post by: liam on July 07, 2017, 11:26:54 PM
Fox>Lonzo

The Kings and The Suns are both going to be really fun to watch this year....
Title: Re: Las Vegas Summer League Thread
Post by: Phantom255x on July 07, 2017, 11:29:00 PM
Just reached the hotel in New Jersey (vacation trip) and caught last glimpses of the game.

Ball bricked some 3's and what not lol.

Then after the game, ESPN hyping him up to Curry and Ramona "Lakers Lady" Shelbourne says Ball had a fantastic game despite the shooting, which may be fair (like the lob pass to Ingram and assists), but I mean, lets be real, if this is someone else, she would probably label them as a bust already.  :laugh:
Title: Re: Las Vegas Summer League Thread
Post by: liam on July 07, 2017, 11:30:58 PM
Just reached the hotel in New Jersey (vacation trip) and caught last glimpses of the game.

Ball bricked some 3's and what not lol.

Then after the game, ESPN hyping him up to Curry and Ramona "Lakers Lady" Shelbourne says Ball had a fantastic game despite the shooting, which may be fair (like the lob pass to Ingram and assists), but I mean, lets be real, if this is someone else, she would probably label them as a bust already.  :laugh:

The energy difference between Ball and Fox is night and day...
Title: Re: Las Vegas Summer League Thread
Post by: max215 on July 07, 2017, 11:31:07 PM
I remain a huge Dragan Bender fan.
Title: Re: Las Vegas Summer League Thread
Post by: liam on July 07, 2017, 11:32:03 PM
I remain a huge Dragan Bender fan.

Me too, but he's a project...
Title: Re: Las Vegas Summer League Thread
Post by: max215 on July 07, 2017, 11:34:53 PM
I remain a huge Dragan Bender fan.

Me too, but he's a project...

The shot is good, passing's very good, and he's going to be a tremendous defensive weapon. I'm excited to see what he becomes.
Title: Re: Las Vegas Summer League Thread
Post by: celticslove on July 07, 2017, 11:40:58 PM
what a nice game so far love the energy from both teams
Title: Re: Las Vegas Summer League Thread
Post by: liam on July 07, 2017, 11:46:15 PM
what a nice game so far love the energy from both teams

Yeah, these teams are going to be a lot of fun this year...
Title: Re: Las Vegas Summer League Thread
Post by: max215 on July 07, 2017, 11:47:15 PM
After watching a bunch of 19 year-olds and guys trying to make rosters, it is very refreshing to watch Mason, Jackson, and Hield.
Title: Re: Las Vegas Summer League Thread
Post by: jpotter33 on July 07, 2017, 11:49:21 PM
Man, I'm not sure Ball could look much worse than tonight. Can't hit crap and outside of a few good passes, he's had downright terrible decision-making and shot selection.
Lavar ain't going to be talking much after that game.  Really ugly.

Don't see why Vegas and others think Ball is the favorite for ROY.  He was in a perfect situation at UCLA with 4 good shooters on the court.  He's not going to have that with the Lakers.

Yet he was still the first person interviewed after the game  ::) Ridiculous.
Title: Re: Las Vegas Summer League Thread
Post by: jpotter33 on July 07, 2017, 11:52:07 PM
I'm still a big Chriss fan. The kid has so much potential. He actually reminds me of a less offensively skilled Morris brother.
Title: Re: Las Vegas Summer League Thread
Post by: liam on July 07, 2017, 11:52:25 PM
Zizic is a lot better than Papagiannis...
Title: Re: Las Vegas Summer League Thread
Post by: liam on July 07, 2017, 11:59:01 PM
Justin Jackson is having a very nice game...
Title: Re: Las Vegas Summer League Thread
Post by: Beat LA on July 08, 2017, 12:04:35 AM
Thorneell reminds me of young Joe Johnson.

Lol, no.  Thornwell is what Celtics fans hoped Marcus Smart would be, imo.  I still can't believe that they got him and Jawun Evans, and in the second round, no less, but then again, Jerry West, so yeah. *facepalm*

Just reached the hotel in New Jersey (vacation trip) and caught last glimpses of the game.

Ball bricked some 3's and what not lol.

Then after the game, ESPN hyping him up to Curry and Ramona "Lakers Lady" Shelbourne says Ball had a fantastic game despite the shooting, which may be fair (like the lob pass to Ingram and assists), but I mean, lets be real, if this is someone else, she would probably label them as a bust already.  :laugh:

Hey, someone from ESPN has to try to polish that turd, and who better than the Lakers Lady, herself, lol ;D?
Title: Re: Las Vegas Summer League Thread
Post by: CelticsElite on July 08, 2017, 12:11:52 AM
Fox has no range whatsoever. He is also not a very good playmaker. He doesn't impress me. His ceiling is 6th man
Title: Re: Las Vegas Summer League Thread
Post by: liam on July 08, 2017, 12:12:33 AM
Fox blocks Josh Jackson's shot to end the half!
Title: Re: Las Vegas Summer League Thread
Post by: max215 on July 08, 2017, 12:13:28 AM
Fox blocks Josh Jackson's shot to end the half!

The low release coming back to bite him.
Title: Re: Las Vegas Summer League Thread
Post by: CelticsElite on July 08, 2017, 12:13:49 AM
Fox blocks Josh Jackson's shot to end the half!
that was nice
Title: Re: Las Vegas Summer League Thread
Post by: CelticsElite on July 08, 2017, 12:14:18 AM
Fox blocks Josh Jackson's shot to end the half!

The low release coming back to bite him.
he has a slow, flawed, and predictable release
Title: Re: Las Vegas Summer League Thread
Post by: liam on July 08, 2017, 12:15:23 AM
Fox blocks Josh Jackson's shot to end the half!

The low release coming back to bite him.

Jackson looks surprised by how athletic everyone is. He's use to being the most athletic guy on the court...
Title: Re: Las Vegas Summer League Thread
Post by: CelticsElite on July 08, 2017, 12:23:58 AM
Now fox got blocked
Title: Re: Las Vegas Summer League Thread
Post by: jpotter33 on July 08, 2017, 12:25:34 AM
I'm still ticked we didn't trade up for 8 last year and nab Chriss
Title: Re: Las Vegas Summer League Thread
Post by: CelticsElite on July 08, 2017, 12:28:31 AM
Fox blocked again. Chriss is a blocking machine
Title: Re: Las Vegas Summer League Thread
Post by: liam on July 08, 2017, 12:36:56 AM
Fox blocked again. Chriss is a blocking machine

Fox has looked pretty good so far. He plays hard. The lack of an outside shot really changes his ceiling.
Title: Re: Las Vegas Summer League Thread
Post by: liam on July 08, 2017, 12:38:41 AM
Josh Jackson has settled in to this game very nicely...
Title: Re: Las Vegas Summer League Thread
Post by: CelticSooner on July 08, 2017, 12:38:50 AM
How does Josh Jackson look?
Title: Re: Las Vegas Summer League Thread
Post by: liam on July 08, 2017, 12:40:26 AM
Fox looks hurt right now, ankle?
Title: Re: Las Vegas Summer League Thread
Post by: liam on July 08, 2017, 12:42:20 AM
How does Josh Jackson look?

He looked lost in the 1st half but he's looking pretty good in the second..
Title: Re: Las Vegas Summer League Thread
Post by: Snakehead on July 08, 2017, 12:44:26 AM
MCW 2.0
Title: Re: Las Vegas Summer League Thread
Post by: liam on July 08, 2017, 12:45:23 AM
I like Fox but his build is so slight,,,
Title: Re: Las Vegas Summer League Thread
Post by: liam on July 08, 2017, 12:47:21 AM
Fox with a totally bad ass move at the end of the 3rd!
Title: Re: Las Vegas Summer League Thread
Post by: Snakehead on July 08, 2017, 12:48:50 AM
I'm still ticked we didn't trade up for 8 last year and nab Chriss

Yeah I was a big fan of him as well.  Looking good.
Title: Re: Las Vegas Summer League Thread
Post by: liam on July 08, 2017, 12:49:33 AM
Fox is taking over this game!
Title: Re: Las Vegas Summer League Thread
Post by: Kuberski33 on July 08, 2017, 12:50:51 AM
This game has been entertaining as heck.
Title: Re: Las Vegas Summer League Thread
Post by: Snakehead on July 08, 2017, 12:51:41 AM
Fox has looked so much better than Ball tonight pretty funny to me.
Title: Re: Las Vegas Summer League Thread
Post by: Kuberski33 on July 08, 2017, 12:55:06 AM
Easy to see why Phoenix wanted Jackson so much. He'll change their culture with the way he plays defensively and if he ever develops a shot, he'll be a beast.
Title: Re: Las Vegas Summer League Thread
Post by: CelticsElite on July 08, 2017, 01:03:44 AM
There's josh missing half his free throws.
Title: Re: Las Vegas Summer League Thread
Post by: max215 on July 08, 2017, 01:13:03 AM
A very fun game capped off a very fun opening night. I love Summer League.
Title: Re: Las Vegas Summer League Thread
Post by: CelticSooner on July 08, 2017, 10:51:31 PM
Bump
Title: Re: Las Vegas Summer League Thread
Post by: jpotter33 on July 08, 2017, 11:45:55 PM
Lol Sixers fan about right now:

(https://m.popkey.co/c64a09/Nv8Gx_s-200x150.gif)
Title: Re: Las Vegas Summer League Thread
Post by: CelticsElite on July 08, 2017, 11:46:31 PM
Fultz just hurt ankle

No pressure on ankle. May be a high sprain or broken ankle
Title: Re: Las Vegas Summer League Thread
Post by: CelticsElite on July 08, 2017, 11:48:05 PM
Lol Sixers fan about right now:

(https://m.popkey.co/c64a09/Nv8Gx_s-200x150.gif)
lol

Its crazy how almost every sixers pick gets hurt for the whole season during meaningless games
Title: Re: Las Vegas Summer League Thread
Post by: jpotter33 on July 08, 2017, 11:50:09 PM
https://www.libertyballers.com/2017/7/8/15942608/vegas-summer-league-sixers-warriors-game-thread-markelle-fultz-philadelphia

Lol read the comments from the Sixers fans. They're freaking out already lol
Title: Re: Las Vegas Summer League Thread
Post by: max215 on July 08, 2017, 11:51:29 PM
Hopefully, Fultz is okay. Never want to see anyone get injured, especially in Summer League.
Title: Re: Las Vegas Summer League Thread
Post by: CelticsElite on July 08, 2017, 11:52:33 PM
https://www.libertyballers.com/2017/7/8/15942608/vegas-summer-league-sixers-warriors-game-thread-markelle-fultz-philadelphia

Lol read the comments from the Sixers fans. They're freaking out already lol
this should be good
  :D
Title: Re: Las Vegas Summer League Thread
Post by: CelticsElite on July 09, 2017, 12:06:20 AM
They just brought out paul pierces wheelchair for fultz!



Lol
Title: Re: Las Vegas Summer League Thread
Post by: liam on July 09, 2017, 12:08:27 AM
They just brought out paul pierces wheelchair for fultz!



Lol

Is that the same ankle that kept him out of the last 8 games of college?
Title: Re: Las Vegas Summer League Thread
Post by: green_bballers13 on July 09, 2017, 12:15:36 AM
Wow- I really hope it's not serious. Philly doesn't need any more bad luck. It's more sympathy/pity at this point vs. thinking of them as a contender in the east. In my book, they are still miles away.
Title: Re: Las Vegas Summer League Thread
Post by: liam on July 09, 2017, 12:15:55 AM
Ball played against a Celtics team with no Centers and no Point Guards, I thought he'd actually have a better game than he did. I think for the 1st year at least he can put up some numbers against some bottom teams but against a good NBA defender, and they're a lot of them, I think he will struggle. I'm not really basing this on summer league but on watching him in college. I think Fox is more NBA ready even without the outside shot.
Title: Re: Las Vegas Summer League Thread
Post by: CelticsElite on July 09, 2017, 12:17:09 AM
They just brought out paul pierces wheelchair for fultz!



Lol

Is that the same ankle that kept him out of the last 8 games of college?
college it was the knee.

I did a decent amount of research and could not figure out which knee it.was. A lot of Sports journalists For the most part never asked which knee was injured which is crazy
Title: Re: Las Vegas Summer League Thread
Post by: liam on July 09, 2017, 12:19:18 AM
They just brought out paul pierces wheelchair for fultz!



Lol

Is that the same ankle that kept him out of the last 8 games of college?
college it was the knee.

I did a decent amount of research and could not figure out which knee it.was. A lot of Sports journalists For the most part never asked which knee was injured which is crazy

Ankle injury is better than the knee...
Title: Re: Las Vegas Summer League Thread
Post by: celticslove on July 09, 2017, 12:26:32 AM
lol at philly fans reactions... they are cursed! well i guess time to shutdown 7/11
Title: Re: Las Vegas Summer League Thread
Post by: max215 on July 09, 2017, 04:53:22 PM
Josh Jackson just got stuffed by the rim on a wide open dunk :)
Title: Re: Las Vegas Summer League Thread
Post by: liam on July 09, 2017, 11:46:16 PM
Dennis Smith Jr looks really good. With the amount of time he'll get in Dallas, he could be roy...
Title: Re: Las Vegas Summer League Thread
Post by: CelticsElite on July 09, 2017, 11:56:38 PM
Josh Jackson just got stuffed by the rim on a wide open dunk :)
was not impressed with jackson
Title: Re: Las Vegas Summer League Thread
Post by: tarheelsxxiii on July 10, 2017, 12:12:43 AM
Dennis Smith Jr looks really good. With the amount of time he'll get in Dallas, he could be roy...

I like the kid a lot.  I think he's going to kill any promise that Yogi had in my fantasy league, albeit 20 teams deep. 
Title: Re: Las Vegas Summer League Thread
Post by: liam on July 10, 2017, 12:17:30 AM
Dennis Smith Jr looks really good. With the amount of time he'll get in Dallas, he could be roy...

I like the kid a lot.  I think he's going to kill any promise that Yogi had in my fantasy league, albeit 20 teams deep.

I think The Knicks really wiffed their pick.
Title: Re: Las Vegas Summer League Thread
Post by: CelticsElite on July 10, 2017, 12:25:28 AM
I think it was expected Smith would look good. Super athletic guards like him always wreck summer league but def nice to see
Title: Re: Las Vegas Summer League Thread
Post by: tarheelsxxiii on July 10, 2017, 12:27:15 AM
Dennis Smith Jr looks really good. With the amount of time he'll get in Dallas, he could be roy...

I like the kid a lot.  I think he's going to kill any promise that Yogi had in my fantasy league, albeit 20 teams deep.

I think The Knicks really wiffed their pick.

Most likely.  I have a lot of friends that are NYK fans, and I thought Smith would be the best fit for them.  I worried about long-term health like Steve Francis, but the kid can clearly play at a high level and they need someone to revitalize that organization.  Sad state of affairs there.
Title: Re: Las Vegas Summer League Thread
Post by: hwangjini_1 on July 10, 2017, 09:10:25 PM
Lonzo apparently injured and won't play against Fox and the Kings.

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/...-vs-deaaron-fox-sacramento-kings-groin-injury

If if if Lonzo is hiding, then good luck to him playing in the NBA.
Title: Re: Las Vegas Summer League Thread
Post by: Kuberski33 on July 10, 2017, 09:21:22 PM
Anyone catch the James Young 0-for-3 in 9 minutes for NO - who got beat by 30?
Title: Re: Las Vegas Summer League Thread
Post by: Surferdad on July 10, 2017, 09:32:58 PM
Lonzo apparently injured and won't play against Fox and the Kings.

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/...-vs-deaaron-fox-sacramento-kings-groin-injury

If if if Lonzo is hiding, then good luck to him playing in the NBA.
Wow the league must be devastated.  They love those lotto pick matchups to generate interest, esp among young fans.
Title: Re: Las Vegas Summer League Thread
Post by: CelticsElite on July 10, 2017, 09:50:21 PM
Anyone catch the James Young 0-for-3 in 9 minutes for NO - who got beat by 30?
wow.
Title: Re: Las Vegas Summer League Thread
Post by: CelticsElite on July 10, 2017, 09:53:15 PM
Dennis Smith Jr looks really good. With the amount of time he'll get in Dallas, he could be roy...

I like the kid a lot.  I think he's going to kill any promise that Yogi had in my fantasy league, albeit 20 teams deep.

I think The Knicks really wiffed their pick.
Smith was probably better, but frank ntilikina looks like he could be good in a few years
Title: Re: Las Vegas Summer League Thread
Post by: CelticsElite on July 11, 2017, 10:53:15 PM
This game right now went into double OT

Sudden death- First one to score wins.
Title: Re: Las Vegas Summer League Thread
Post by: jpotter33 on July 12, 2017, 08:35:00 PM
http://twitter.com/GwashburnGlobe/status/885294893060444161

GS vs Boston tomorrow. Preview of the 2018 NBA Finals.
Title: Re: Las Vegas Summer League Thread
Post by: jpotter33 on July 12, 2017, 08:51:32 PM
We're going to regret not picking Skal. I was really hoping we'd take him with one of our later picks last year. He disappointed in his lone college season, but he still has tremendous upside.
Title: Re: Las Vegas Summer League Thread
Post by: Smitty77 on July 12, 2017, 08:55:51 PM
What TV station will our game be on?

Smitty77
Title: Re: Las Vegas Summer League Thread
Post by: jpotter33 on July 12, 2017, 09:02:08 PM
What TV station will our game be on?

Smitty77

I believe it's ESPN2 at 6 pm EST.
Title: Re: Las Vegas Summer League Thread
Post by: hpantazo on July 12, 2017, 09:17:09 PM
Josh Jackson is such a ball hog. Glad we drafted Tatum.

Bender looks much better this year on the offensive end. More comfortable and more confident. His three point shot looks great
Title: Re: Las Vegas Summer League Thread
Post by: Smitty77 on July 12, 2017, 10:45:32 PM
What TV station will our game be on?

Smitty77

I believe it's ESPN2 at 6 pm EST.

Thanks jpotter!!!
Title: Re: Las Vegas Summer League Thread
Post by: moiso on July 12, 2017, 11:05:54 PM
Josh Jackson is such a ball hog. Glad we drafted Tatum.

Bender looks much better this year on the offensive end. More comfortable and more confident. His three point shot looks great
Tatum is known as more of a ball hog than Jackson.  Jackson is known as a very good passer and playmaker for a wing.  And he had 15 rebounds tonight.
Title: Re: Las Vegas Summer League Thread
Post by: moiso on July 12, 2017, 11:07:42 PM
We're going to regret not picking Skal. I was really hoping we'd take him with one of our later picks last year. He disappointed in his lone college season, but he still has tremendous upside.
Who would want a player nowadays who can block shots and shoot 3 pointers?  Yeah I was hoping to grab him too.
Title: Re: Las Vegas Summer League Thread
Post by: CelticsElite on July 12, 2017, 11:32:46 PM
Ball is a terrible shooter. He airballs a 3, then the next 3 it goes far left of the rim
Title: Re: Las Vegas Summer League Thread
Post by: Rondo9 on July 13, 2017, 12:47:24 AM
And Ball ends up with 36 points. So when are people going to anoint as the next Magic?
Title: Re: Las Vegas Summer League Thread
Post by: CelticsElite on July 13, 2017, 12:54:03 AM
Ball ended up with 36 because the 76ers played zero defense. None. There was at least a few plays where they didn't even run back on transition D and it was 1v1 with Lonzo making an easy layup. Majority of lonZos points were from layups going to the right. Very predictable yet no one bothered defending him
Title: Re: Las Vegas Summer League Thread
Post by: Beat LA on July 13, 2017, 12:58:00 AM
Ball is a terrible shooter. He airballs a 3, then the next 3 it goes far left of the rim

Sounds like a bit of a wild thang ;) -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jdv2Wp9MzY0

;D
Title: Re: Las Vegas Summer League Thread
Post by: tarheelsxxiii on July 13, 2017, 01:05:52 AM
I'd be jacked if Tatum or Brown scored 36 in any SL game. 
Title: Re: Las Vegas Summer League Thread
Post by: CelticsElite on July 13, 2017, 01:15:26 AM
https://www.instagram.com/p/BWeUr6dB2pG/

Lonzo was wearing nikes not big baller shoes.'
Title: Re: Las Vegas Summer League Thread
Post by: chilidawg on July 13, 2017, 01:33:21 AM
Ball is a terrible shooter. He airballs a 3, then the next 3 it goes far left of the rim

And he then made his next 2 3's.  Hard to make judgments on a kid based on 2 shots. 
Title: Re: Las Vegas Summer League Thread
Post by: max215 on July 13, 2017, 01:41:49 AM
Ball is a terrible shooter. He airballs a 3, then the next 3 it goes far left of the rim

And he then made his next 2 3's.  Hard to make judgments on a kid based on 2 shots.

Of course, you should never judge a player on just 2 shots. However, individual misses can tell a lot more about a shooter than makes. For example, Lonzo seems to have had a handful of bad left-right misses. Incorrectly gauging distance (air balls) isn't a huge deal, but left-right misses are symptomatic of flawed/inconsistent form. When you consider this within the context of Lonzo's unorthodox shot, his individual misses can become pretty telling.
Title: Re: Las Vegas Summer League Thread
Post by: CelticsElite on July 13, 2017, 01:50:23 AM
Ball is a terrible shooter. He airballs a 3, then the next 3 it goes far left of the rim

And he then made his next 2 3's.  Hard to make judgments on a kid based on 2 shots.

Of course, you should never judge a player on just 2 shots. However, individual misses can tell a lot more about a shooter than makes. For example, Lonzo seems to have had a handful of bad left-right misses. Incorrectly gauging distance (air balls) isn't a huge deal, but left-right misses are symptomatic of flawed/inconsistent form. When you consider this within the context of Lonzo's unorthodox shot, his individual misses can become pretty telling.
exactly. That's what I was trying to get at. His shot is fundamentally flawed for many reasons. It's the wrong way to shoot and it gets proven when he misses the rim by 4 feet.  That's why it's called fundamentals... fundamentally-sound shots are designed to be most accurate as well as least likely to be blocked.
Title: Re: Las Vegas Summer League Thread
Post by: manl_lui on July 13, 2017, 02:20:43 AM
Ball is a terrible shooter. He airballs a 3, then the next 3 it goes far left of the rim

And he then made his next 2 3's.  Hard to make judgments on a kid based on 2 shots.

Of course, you should never judge a player on just 2 shots. However, individual misses can tell a lot more about a shooter than makes. For example, Lonzo seems to have had a handful of bad left-right misses. Incorrectly gauging distance (air balls) isn't a huge deal, but left-right misses are symptomatic of flawed/inconsistent form. When you consider this within the context of Lonzo's unorthodox shot, his individual misses can become pretty telling.
exactly. That's what I was trying to get at. His shot is fundamentally flawed for many reasons. It's the wrong way to shoot and it gets proven when he misses the rim by 4 feet.  That's why it's called fundamentals... fundamentally-sound shots are designed to be most accurate as well as least likely to be blocked.

i think his shot will not translate once the NBA starts, the way he carries the ball over his shoulder for a shot kinda resembles Rondo's, but it looks a lot worse looking at Balls. I honestly feel a capable NBA defender could easily shut or block his shot
Title: Re: Las Vegas Summer League Thread
Post by: CoachBS#1 on July 13, 2017, 03:02:39 AM
Josh Jackson is such a ball hog. Glad we drafted Tatum.

Bender looks much better this year on the offensive end. More comfortable and more confident. His three point shot looks great
Tatum is known as more of a ball hog than Jackson.  Jackson is known as a very good passer and playmaker for a wing.  And he had 15 rebounds tonight.
Also Jackson is a full year older than Tatum
Title: Re: Las Vegas Summer League Thread
Post by: CoachBS#1 on July 13, 2017, 03:05:34 AM
I'd be jacked if Tatum or Brown scored 36 in any SL game.
Well Brown scored 18 points in a playoff game, that's like 60 in summer league(oviously with talent around him)
Title: Re: Las Vegas Summer League Thread
Post by: CelticsElite on July 13, 2017, 03:22:32 AM
I'd be jacked if Tatum or Brown scored 36 in any SL game.
Well Brown scored 18 points in a playoff game, that's like 60 in summer league(oviously with talent around him)
and with prime lebron defending brown, that's 120pts in a summer league game
Title: Re: Las Vegas Summer League Thread
Post by: CoachBS#1 on July 13, 2017, 03:29:05 AM
I'd be jacked if Tatum or Brown scored 36 in any SL game.
Well Brown scored 18 points in a playoff game, that's like 60 in summer league(oviously with talent around him)
and with prime lebron defending brown, that's 120pts in a summer league game
https://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/celtics/2016/11/04/celtics/zl5QbmOjXNOtEhY5cPAQZO/story.html
Title: Re: Las Vegas Summer League Thread
Post by: jdz101 on July 13, 2017, 04:59:54 AM
I'd be jacked if Tatum or Brown scored 36 in any SL game.

Tatum did drop 27 playing far more within himself than Lonzo did today.

The amount of gambling that Lonzo was doing for steals on defense will not be rewarded at the higher level. It will be punished.
Title: Re: Las Vegas Summer League Thread
Post by: moiso on July 13, 2017, 07:12:22 AM
https://www.instagram.com/p/BWeUr6dB2pG/

Lonzo was wearing nikes not big baller shoes.'
That's goofy.  The Big Baller's are so great that they are worth $500 but of such poor quality that they are unfit to wear in a basketball game.
Title: Re: Las Vegas Summer League Thread
Post by: SHAQATTACK on July 13, 2017, 08:24:27 AM
https://www.instagram.com/p/BWeUr6dB2pG/

Lonzo was wearing nikes not big baller shoes.'
That's goofy.  The Big Baller's are so great that they are worth $500 but of such poor quality that they are unfit to wear in a basketball game.

Should rename the shoes. "Air ballers "  ....for the hot air spewed by Lavar
Title: Re: Las Vegas Summer League Thread
Post by: JHTruth on July 13, 2017, 08:29:41 AM
Ball is a terrible shooter. He airballs a 3, then the next 3 it goes far left of the rim

And he then made his next 2 3's.  Hard to make judgments on a kid based on 2 shots.

Of course, you should never judge a player on just 2 shots. However, individual misses can tell a lot more about a shooter than makes. For example, Lonzo seems to have had a handful of bad left-right misses. Incorrectly gauging distance (air balls) isn't a huge deal, but left-right misses are symptomatic of flawed/inconsistent form. When you consider this within the context of Lonzo's unorthodox shot, his individual misses can become pretty telling.
exactly. That's what I was trying to get at. His shot is fundamentally flawed for many reasons. It's the wrong way to shoot and it gets proven when he misses the rim by 4 feet.  That's why it's called fundamentals... fundamentally-sound shots are designed to be most accurate as well as least likely to be blocked.

i think his shot will not translate once the NBA starts, the way he carries the ball over his shoulder for a shot kinda resembles Rondo's, but it looks a lot worse looking at Balls. I honestly feel a capable NBA defender could easily shut or block his shot

Right now Ball looks like he will shoot sub-30 from three, much like Rondo. Unfortunately he wont have pierce and Ray allen to bail him out when defenses cheat off him
Title: Re: Las Vegas Summer League Thread
Post by: footey on July 13, 2017, 08:57:49 AM
Honesty, Ball is going to be an incredible player.  You can still hate the Lakers and acknowledge that.  Did you say how awful Magic was back in the '80's?

I personally think the rivalry is going to resume sooner than people think, and would not be surprised if Celtics-Lakers meet in the finals within the next 5 years.
Title: Re: Las Vegas Summer League Thread
Post by: moiso on July 13, 2017, 10:05:15 AM
https://www.instagram.com/p/BWeUr6dB2pG/

Lonzo was wearing nikes not big baller shoes.'
That's goofy.  The Big Baller's are so great that they are worth $500 but of such poor quality that they are unfit to wear in a basketball game.

Should rename the shoes. "Air ballers "  ....for the hot air spewed by Lavar
haha!  Tp!
Title: Re: Las Vegas Summer League Thread
Post by: Neurotic Guy on July 13, 2017, 10:08:59 AM
Honesty, Ball is going to be an incredible player.  You can still hate the Lakers and acknowledge that.  Did you say how awful Magic was back in the '80's?

I personally think the rivalry is going to resume sooner than people think, and would not be surprised if Celtics-Lakers meet in the finals within the next 5 years.

I never acknowledge the quality or the accomplishments of Lakers.  I prefer not to speak of them if they are good.  Actually, I don't like speaking of them if they are bad either.
Title: Re: Las Vegas Summer League Thread
Post by: CelticsElite on July 13, 2017, 10:43:34 AM
Honesty, Ball is going to be an incredible player.  You can still hate the Lakers and acknowledge that.  Did you say how awful Magic was back in the '80's?

I personally think the rivalry is going to resume sooner than people think, and would not be surprised if Celtics-Lakers meet in the finals within the next 5 years.

I never acknowledge the quality or the accomplishments of Lakers.  I prefer not to speak of them if they are good.  Actually, I don't like speaking of them if they are bad either.
same although I do like to get a good chuckle when they are last place in west as they usually are. Its gonna be even sweeter when they give us a draft pick for being so terrible
Title: Re: Las Vegas Summer League Thread
Post by: JHTruth on July 13, 2017, 10:43:59 AM
Honesty, Ball is going to be an incredible player.  You can still hate the Lakers and acknowledge that.  Did you say how awful Magic was back in the '80's?

I personally think the rivalry is going to resume sooner than people think, and would not be surprised if Celtics-Lakers meet in the finals within the next 5 years.

LOL Magic joined a team that already had freaking Kareem, Wilkes, Cooper, Norm Nixon, and Spencer Haywood. Lonzo is joining Scrub City.

I see Ball as a very good passer, but his offense seems very limited otherwise and his defense is awful. He could be decent off-the-ball on defense maybe but that's going to take some time in the real league.

I never he said he had no talent at all, but his weaknesses are pretty glaring. I see him as a glorified Rondo/Rubio type..
Title: Re: Las Vegas Summer League Thread
Post by: makaveli on July 13, 2017, 11:20:21 AM
i just saw John Collins highlights (ATL) against the NOP. Wow that kid looks nifty. 6'9 great activity, hands, athleticism , shooting form.
Might be a real steal and a bright spot to a terrible upcoming season in ATL.
But ATL IMHO might be like the first year Celtics rebuild. maybe a bit better.
19th pick looking good
Title: Re: Las Vegas Summer League Thread
Post by: Atzar on July 13, 2017, 11:49:48 AM
Oddly enough, I watched the highlights from Ball's big game last night and came away with as many negatives as positives.

I love those outlet passes when he rebounds the ball, and he's very dangerous pushing the ball in transition. 

He's not quite as bad on defense as the noise here would suggest, but he's still below average.  Quick guards will murder him at will, and that's a problem that won't go away.  But he actually looks like a solid off-ball defender with good court awareness and decent length.  I wonder if the Lakers might try to play him at the 2 defensively next to an off-ball guard who can defend the 1. 

I don't like him in the half court, though.  Not particularly quick, low and slow release on the jumpshot.  The Lakers don't space the floor very well - lots of 30-35% shooters, which leads me to believe that a lot of teams will just pack the paint against them until they beat that strategy.  None of this is a new take on Ball, but watching his play last night reinforced the notion. 

Title: Re: Las Vegas Summer League Thread
Post by: MVPPierceNoJoke on July 15, 2017, 11:49:31 PM
Lakers fans be wearing summer league championship shirt I swear
Title: Re: Las Vegas Summer League Thread
Post by: CelticsElite on July 16, 2017, 02:23:19 AM
Lakers fans be wearing summer league championship shirt I swear
they're probably hanging up a banner at the staples center next to the Minnesota titles they claim as their own
Title: Re: Las Vegas Summer League Thread
Post by: hwangjini_1 on July 16, 2017, 02:32:14 AM
So long Celtics summer leagues guys! We hardly knew you. No, I mean it. We hardly knew any of these guys.  ;D
Title: Re: Las Vegas Summer League Thread
Post by: scottwedman on July 18, 2017, 03:11:23 PM
Oddly enough, I watched the highlights from Ball's big game last night and came away with as many negatives as positives.

I love those outlet passes when he rebounds the ball, and he's very dangerous pushing the ball in transition. 

He's not quite as bad on defense as the noise here would suggest, but he's still below average.  Quick guards will murder him at will, and that's a problem that won't go away.  But he actually looks like a solid off-ball defender with good court awareness and decent length.  I wonder if the Lakers might try to play him at the 2 defensively next to an off-ball guard who can defend the 1. 

I don't like him in the half court, though.  Not particularly quick, low and slow release on the jumpshot.  The Lakers don't space the floor very well - lots of 30-35% shooters, which leads me to believe that a lot of teams will just pack the paint against them until they beat that strategy.  None of this is a new take on Ball, but watching his play last night reinforced the notion.

I wanted the Celtics to draft this guy.  Put Isaiah off the ball and have Ball set him up.  Oh well.
Title: Re: Las Vegas Summer League Thread
Post by: hwangjini_1 on July 18, 2017, 04:05:54 PM
It's summer league boys and girls. Does anyone remember that SL super star Jahlil Okafur? Let's all wait and see how during the next few years just how good Fultz, Ball, Tatum, and our very own Zizic become.

And more about summer league stars on SoSH:

"don't forget can't miss Superstar Anthony Randolph's world-beating 2009 Summer League, highlighted by his record-tying 42 point night:

http://www.mercurynews.com/2009/07/14/warriors-randolph-scores-42-points-in-summer-league-game/

“I’ll give him two years,” said one NBA Western Conference executive, who said it was team policy not to comment on other teams’ players. “In two years, he’ll be making people say ‘Wow.’ If he’s not an All-Star, people will be asking, ‘How didn’t he make it?’ ”

Randolph has been perhaps the most dominant player in this year’s summer league. He put together his best performance Tuesday as the Warriors defeated the Chicago Bulls 95-83 at UNLV’s Cox Pavilion. Randolph scored 42 points, tying the record for a Las Vegas summer league game. (Marcus Banks and Von Wafer each scored 42 in 2007.) Randolph also had four steals, three blocked shots and no turnovers.​

Another fun fact about that game: the Warriors' skinny rookie combo guard out of Davidson clanged his way to a 3-15 night, and had fans in the Golden State of Mind game thread wishing Jonny Flynn had fallen to them in the draft."
Title: Re: Las Vegas Summer League Thread
Post by: hpantazo on July 18, 2017, 04:09:32 PM
Lakers fans be wearing summer league championship shirt I swear

I heard Magic wants to raise a summer league champions banner on opening night
Title: Re: Las Vegas Summer League Thread
Post by: chilidawg on July 18, 2017, 04:54:06 PM
It's summer league boys and girls. Does anyone remember that SL super star Jahlil Okafur? Let's all wait and see how during the next few years just how good Fultz, Ball, Tatum, and our very own Zizic become.

And more about summer league stars on SoSH:

"don't forget can't miss Superstar Anthony Randolph's world-beating 2009 Summer League, highlighted by his record-tying 42 point night:

http://www.mercurynews.com/2009/07/14/warriors-randolph-scores-42-points-in-summer-league-game/

“I’ll give him two years,” said one NBA Western Conference executive, who said it was team policy not to comment on other teams’ players. “In two years, he’ll be making people say ‘Wow.’ If he’s not an All-Star, people will be asking, ‘How didn’t he make it?’ ”

Randolph has been perhaps the most dominant player in this year’s summer league. He put together his best performance Tuesday as the Warriors defeated the Chicago Bulls 95-83 at UNLV’s Cox Pavilion. Randolph scored 42 points, tying the record for a Las Vegas summer league game. (Marcus Banks and Von Wafer each scored 42 in 2007.) Randolph also had four steals, three blocked shots and no turnovers.​

Another fun fact about that game: the Warriors' skinny rookie combo guard out of Davidson clanged his way to a 3-15 night, and had fans in the Golden State of Mind game thread wishing Jonny Flynn had fallen to them in the draft."

Classic.  TP.
Title: Re: Las Vegas Summer League Thread
Post by: celticsclay on July 18, 2017, 05:11:33 PM






Warriors management is giddy about his defensive intensity and the firmer grasp he has on his emotions.

“He’s slowing down the pace of his game,” said Memphis Grizzlies second-year power forward Darrell Arthur, a fellow Dallas native. “He’s more under control. He has a jumper now. He can handle the ball. He’s better this year than he was last year.”

Randolph’s progress — a product of his steady hard work, according to the Warriors’ staff — is a luxury for Golden State. With Randolph already identified as a core piece of the team, his ability to upgrade his production from last season would solidify a vital position for the Warriors’ offense.

The Warriors need someone who can command a double-team. They need someone who can protect the basket and crash the boards. In addition to that, Randolph — at his best — can create offense off the dribble and go coast to coast. And, as a bonus, he can bring the thunder.

Tuesday, he did just that. In the final seconds of the first quarter, Randolph cut back door and took a pass from Stephen Curry. He had an open lane, but Bulls forward Luke Zeller closed hard. Randolph proceeded to throw down a left-hand dunk through the hard foul of Zeller, drawing a chorus of gasps and cheers from the crowd.

“You can’t teach that,” said Washington Wizards All-Star forward Antawn Jamison, a former Warrior. “Even when I went up against him last year, it wasn’t anything easy. He’s definitely one of those guys who can be at the All-Star level. Once he understands the concepts of the game and gets comfortable in (Coach Don) Nelson’s system, he’s going to be scary.”
Title: Re: Las Vegas Summer League Thread
Post by: greece66 on July 20, 2017, 05:09:32 AM
https://twitter.com/SerenaWinters/status/887721654448660480

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Title: Re: Las Vegas Summer League Thread
Post by: LaBran Jaymes on July 21, 2017, 04:23:28 AM
As long as we eat more blueberries, we will A-OKAY in the USA.