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Title: Woj : Daniel Theis has agreed to a two-year deal with the C's
Post by: Jvalin on July 01, 2017, 01:42:10 PM
Adrian Wojnarowski‏@wojespn

German forward Daniel Theis has agreed to a two-year deal with the Boston Celtics, league sources tell ESPN.


https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/881205359624429568
Title: Re: Woj : Daniel Theis has agreed to a two-year deal with the C's
Post by: Surferdad on July 01, 2017, 01:47:02 PM
How much guaranteed?  I'm guessing none.
Title: Re: Woj : Daniel Theis has agreed to a two-year deal with the C's
Post by: celticinorlando on July 01, 2017, 01:47:32 PM
Sounds like Yabu goes back overdseas
Title: Re: Woj : Daniel Theis has agreed to a two-year deal with the C's
Post by: fairweatherfan on July 01, 2017, 01:47:46 PM
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Title: Re: Woj : Daniel Theis has agreed to a two-year deal with the C's
Post by: tarheelsxxiii on July 01, 2017, 01:48:17 PM
Woj is dropping bombs now.  Negates any perceived need for George or Butler now, too.
Title: Re: Woj : Daniel Theis has agreed to a two-year deal with the C's
Post by: Birdman on July 01, 2017, 01:49:46 PM
Never heard of this guy
Title: Re: Woj : Daniel Theis has agreed to a two-year deal with the C's
Post by: Ilikesports17 on July 01, 2017, 01:51:02 PM
Banner 18 confirmed.
Title: Re: Woj : Daniel Theis has agreed to a two-year deal with the C's
Post by: The_Truth on July 01, 2017, 01:51:11 PM
The German Larry Bird they say.....  ;D
Title: Re: Woj : Daniel Theis has agreed to a two-year deal with the C's
Post by: CelticsElite on July 01, 2017, 01:51:23 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DC9W9gTVYAAqdmF.jpg)I officially take this back. Looking in retrospect, this was indeed a woj bomb
Title: Re: Woj : Daniel Theis has agreed to a two-year deal with the C's
Post by: celticinorlando on July 01, 2017, 01:52:04 PM
So they have the German Larry Bird and the Swedish Larry Bird.
Title: Re: Woj : Daniel Theis has agreed to a two-year deal with the C's
Post by: liam on July 01, 2017, 01:52:28 PM
The German Larry Bird they say.....  ;D

More like The German Amir Johnson...
Title: Re: Woj : Daniel Theis has agreed to a two-year deal with the C's
Post by: max215 on July 01, 2017, 01:54:22 PM
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Beat me to it!
Title: Re: Woj : Daniel Theis has agreed to a two-year deal with the C's
Post by: max215 on July 01, 2017, 01:55:21 PM
How much guaranteed?  I'm guessing none.

Probably very little. It'll be for the minimum, I'm sure, so we'll sign him after using our space.
Title: Re: Woj : Daniel Theis has agreed to a two-year deal with the C's
Post by: liam on July 01, 2017, 01:56:08 PM
An active player who can shoot the 3 and block shots: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grHOuQ9VqIQ
Title: Re: Woj : Daniel Theis has agreed to a two-year deal with the C's
Post by: Tr1boy on July 01, 2017, 01:57:26 PM
KO/Jerebko replacement
Title: Re: Woj : Daniel Theis has agreed to a two-year deal with the C's
Post by: Cman on July 01, 2017, 02:02:32 PM
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More like:


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Title: Re: Woj : Daniel Theis has agreed to a two-year deal with the C's
Post by: Phantom255x on July 01, 2017, 02:03:00 PM
I still can't fathom this is Woj ESPN... not Woj Vertical anymore...  :(
Title: Re: Woj : Daniel Theis has agreed to a two-year deal with the C's
Post by: saltlover on July 01, 2017, 02:03:39 PM
How much guaranteed?  I'm guessing none.

Probably very little. It'll be for the minimum, I'm sure, so we'll sign him after using our space.

When it first broke weeks ago, it was supposed to be guaranteed this year with a partial next year.
Title: Re: Woj : Daniel Theis has agreed to a two-year deal with the C's
Post by: max215 on July 01, 2017, 02:16:25 PM
How much guaranteed?  I'm guessing none.

Probably very little. It'll be for the minimum, I'm sure, so we'll sign him after using our space.

When it first broke weeks ago, it was supposed to be guaranteed this year with a partial next year.

Seems so:

Quote
I'm told the first year in German forward Daniel Theis' 2-year deal with the Celtics is fully guaranteed.

https://twitter.com/adamhimmelsbach/status/881214563584286720
Title: Re: Woj : Daniel Theis has agreed to a two-year deal with the C's
Post by: celticinorlando on July 01, 2017, 02:17:06 PM
Interesting. That does that mean is makes the roster?
Title: Re: Woj : Daniel Theis has agreed to a two-year deal with the C's
Post by: saltlover on July 01, 2017, 02:21:02 PM
How much guaranteed?  I'm guessing none.

Probably very little. It'll be for the minimum, I'm sure, so we'll sign him after using our space.

When it first broke weeks ago, it was supposed to be guaranteed this year with a partial next year.

Seems so:

Quote
I'm told the first year in German forward Daniel Theis' 2-year deal with the Celtics is fully guaranteed.

https://twitter.com/adamhimmelsbach/status/881214563584286720

I'm just going to tell myself I'm Woj's source for this one.
Title: Re: Woj : Daniel Theis has agreed to a two-year deal with the C's
Post by: hodgy03038 on July 01, 2017, 02:23:11 PM
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Title: Re: Woj : Daniel Theis has agreed to a two-year deal with the C's
Post by: saltlover on July 01, 2017, 02:23:20 PM
Interesting. That does that mean is makes the roster?

The expectation is that he will.  Something can obviously change that plan in the next few months -- injury, looking completely out of place in training camp, a camp invitee looking like someone they can't let away, but for now, he's probably got he 14th or 15th roster spot.
Title: Re: Woj : Daniel Theis has agreed to a two-year deal with the C's
Post by: tazzmaniac on July 01, 2017, 02:28:37 PM
So what is the actual value of the contract? 
Title: Re: Woj : Daniel Theis has agreed to a two-year deal with the C's
Post by: ashanm10 on July 01, 2017, 02:34:50 PM
hes a gutsy player :) think of jerebko like ^^ welcome Daniel!
Title: Re: Woj : Daniel Theis has agreed to a two-year deal with the C's
Post by: celticinorlando on July 01, 2017, 02:35:56 PM
Wonder is Jonas is now a goner for good
Title: Re: Woj : Daniel Theis has agreed to a two-year deal with the C's
Post by: Csfan1984 on July 01, 2017, 02:43:47 PM
The signing was expected and glad it's not another guard.
Title: Re: Woj : Daniel Theis has agreed to a two-year deal with the C's
Post by: jaketwice on July 01, 2017, 03:10:34 PM
Sweet Dreams are made of this guy!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qeMFqkcPYcg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qeMFqkcPYcg)
Title: Re: Woj : Daniel Theis has agreed to a two-year deal with the C's
Post by: danglertx on July 01, 2017, 03:19:18 PM
So they have the German Larry Bird and the Swedish Larry Bird.

German Larry Bird?  More like the German Detlef Schrempt.


I don't care what anyone says, that was funny.
Title: Re: Woj : Daniel Theis has agreed to a two-year deal with the C's
Post by: kozlodoev on July 01, 2017, 07:38:16 PM
How much guaranteed?  I'm guessing none.

Probably very little. It'll be for the minimum, I'm sure, so we'll sign him after using our space.
If I had to guess, he's got $50,000 guaranteed and the rest is team options. Expect him to be gone at some time during camp/preseason.
Title: Re: Woj : Daniel Theis has agreed to a two-year deal with the C's
Post by: liam on July 01, 2017, 07:44:14 PM
Theis looks to me that he can actually play. I think he replaces Amir in the rotation.
Title: Re: Woj : Daniel Theis has agreed to a two-year deal with the C's
Post by: hodgy03038 on July 01, 2017, 07:46:34 PM
So they have the German Larry Bird and the Swedish Larry Bird.

German Larry Bird?  More like the German Detlef Schrempt.


I don't care what anyone says, that was funny.

He can't be the German Detlef Schrempf because Detlef is the German Detlef.
Title: Re: Woj : Daniel Theis has agreed to a two-year deal with the C's
Post by: JBcat on July 01, 2017, 07:51:29 PM
So they have the German Larry Bird and the Swedish Larry Bird.

German Larry Bird?  More like the German Detlef Schrempt.


I don't care what anyone says, that was funny.

He can't be the German Detlef Schrempf because Detlef is the German Detlef.

Maybe he is the German Jonas, or Jonas is the Swedish Daniel.
Title: Re: Woj : Daniel Theis has agreed to a two-year deal with the C's
Post by: GreenEnvy on July 01, 2017, 08:00:24 PM
Theis is our fireworks.


I don't know a lick about him, but I assume he takes Jerebko's minutes. I'm gonna miss my girlfriend showing me instagram photos of JJ's hot wife.
Title: Re: Woj : Daniel Theis has agreed to a two-year deal with the C's
Post by: hodgy03038 on July 01, 2017, 08:01:34 PM
Theis is our fireworks.


I don't know a lick about him, but I assume he takes Jerebko's minutes. I'm gonna miss my girlfriend showing me instagram photos of JJ's hot wife.

Did you see my post about 10 above you? You see the fireworks?  ;)
Title: Re: Woj : Daniel Theis has agreed to a two-year deal with the C's
Post by: Cman on July 01, 2017, 08:06:38 PM
Theis is our fireworks.


I don't know a lick about him, but I assume he takes Jerebko's minutes. I'm gonna miss my girlfriend showing me instagram photos of JJ's hot wife.

Did you see my post about 10 above you? You see the fireworks?  ;)

More like the "fireworks" in my post above yours....

;)
Title: Re: Woj : Daniel Theis has agreed to a two-year deal with the C's
Post by: hodgy03038 on July 01, 2017, 08:07:41 PM
Theis is our fireworks.


I don't know a lick about him, but I assume he takes Jerebko's minutes. I'm gonna miss my girlfriend showing me instagram photos of JJ's hot wife.

Did you see my post about 10 above you? You see the fireworks?  ;)

More like the "fireworks" in my post above yours....

;)

touche
Title: Re: Woj : Daniel Theis has agreed to a two-year deal with the C's
Post by: flybono on July 01, 2017, 10:17:39 PM
Yawn.........
Title: Re: Woj : Daniel Theis has agreed to a two-year deal with the C's
Post by: celticinorlando on July 01, 2017, 10:20:08 PM
KO and Theis...there are two the two huge summer signings
Title: Re: Woj : Daniel Theis has agreed to a two-year deal with the C's
Post by: kraidstar on July 01, 2017, 10:44:19 PM
Looks a little undersized for a PF, but fairly athletic.

Doesn't appear to have a lot of offensive versatility.

He did shoot 41% from 3 last year, though only 1.3 attempts per game in 20 minutes per game.

His per-36 numbers overall are decent, 17.5 pts , 8.3 reb, 1.7 blk, 1.2 stl.

He reminds me of Brandon Bass a little bit for some reason, maybe it is the size, quickness, and lack of offensive polish.

Could be a decent player.
Title: Re: Woj : Daniel Theis has agreed to a two-year deal with the C's
Post by: hpantazo on July 01, 2017, 10:46:43 PM
KO and Theis...there are two the two huge summer signings

KO, Theis, Zizic, and Tatum.
Title: Re: Woj : Daniel Theis has agreed to a two-year deal with the C's
Post by: liam on July 01, 2017, 10:54:36 PM
Looks a little undersized for a PF, but fairly athletic.

Doesn't appear to have a lot of offensive versatility.

He did shoot 41% from 3 last year, though only 1.3 attempts per game in 20 minutes per game.

His per-36 numbers overall are decent, 17.5 pts , 8.3 reb, 1.7 blk, 1.2 stl.

He reminds me of Brandon Bass a little bit for some reason, maybe it is the size, quickness, and lack of offensive polish.

Could be a decent player.

This is 6'9" with long arms and is quite mobile. He can block shots and shoot the 3. I think he could be a good role player for The Celtics this coming year. He's as big as Amir Johnson.
Title: Re: Woj : Daniel Theis has agreed to a two-year deal with the C's
Post by: hpantazo on July 01, 2017, 10:59:29 PM
How much guaranteed?  I'm guessing none.

Probably very little. It'll be for the minimum, I'm sure, so we'll sign him after using our space.
If I had to guess, he's got $50,000 guaranteed and the rest is team options. Expect him to be gone at some time during camp/preseason.

Word is the full two year deal is guaranteed.
Title: Re: Woj : Daniel Theis has agreed to a two-year deal with the C's
Post by: Dino Pitino on July 01, 2017, 11:01:00 PM
I'm gonna watch his highlights again and pretend that someday people will talk about this signing as a Spurs-like coup.

(https://sciencenotes.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/sparkler.jpg)
Title: Re: Woj : Daniel Theis has agreed to a two-year deal with the C's
Post by: colincb on July 01, 2017, 11:04:42 PM
Looks a little undersized for a PF, but fairly athletic.

Doesn't appear to have a lot of offensive versatility.

He did shoot 41% from 3 last year, though only 1.3 attempts per game in 20 minutes per game.

His per-36 numbers overall are decent, 17.5 pts , 8.3 reb, 1.7 blk, 1.2 stl.

He reminds me of Brandon Bass a little bit for some reason, maybe it is the size, quickness, and lack of offensive polish.

Could be a decent player.

This is 6'9" with long arms and is quite mobile. He can block shots and shoot the 3. I think he could be a good role player for The Celtics this coming year. He's as big as Amir Johnson.

Zizic has also looked good in in practice according to Souza. It would be nice to see some rebounding this year between these two.

http://www.providencejournal.com/sports/20170701/opportunities-exist-in-celtics-frontcourt
Title: Re: Woj : Daniel Theis has agreed to a two-year deal with the C's
Post by: CelticsElite on July 16, 2017, 03:16:16 PM
I still wonder the role this guy plays. Prob jerebko
Title: Re: Woj : Daniel Theis has agreed to a two-year deal with the C's
Post by: saltlover on July 16, 2017, 03:20:12 PM
I still wonder the role this guy plays. Prob jerebko

Probably.  Slightly better defense and rebounding, slightly worse shooting.  His job is to play defense, rebound, and hit open 3-pointers as the 5th option on offense.

To be clear, I don't think he gets near the amount of minutes Jerebko got last year, but I don't think Jerebko was getting that amount of minutes if he stayed.  I do think he'll get more minutes than Yabusele, Ojeleye, and Nader.  In other words, he's a 12th man.
Title: Re: Woj : Daniel Theis has agreed to a two-year deal with the C's
Post by: GreenWarrior on July 16, 2017, 03:27:57 PM
has the overrating begun? i'm too lazy to go and check.

I think(and this is just a wild guess) this guy will be the same as Jordan mickey.
Title: Re: Woj : Daniel Theis has agreed to a two-year deal with the C's
Post by: CelticD on July 16, 2017, 03:30:37 PM
i see a Chris Birdman Anderson type of role. someone to play solid defense, dish out hard fouls, gets dunked on a lot etc.
Title: Re: Woj : Daniel Theis has agreed to a two-year deal with the C's
Post by: footey on July 16, 2017, 04:08:16 PM
i see a Chris Birdman Anderson type of role. someone to play solid defense, dish out hard fouls, gets dunked on a lot etc.

Birdman couldn't shoot the 3 like Theis can.
Title: Re: Woj : Daniel Theis has agreed to a two-year deal with the C's
Post by: Surferdad on July 16, 2017, 04:22:04 PM
has the overrating begun? i'm too lazy to go and check.

I think(and this is just a wild guess) this guy will be the same as Jordan mickey.
He has to be better than Mickey.  He's 25 and has pro experience.

I'd like to think he will be better than Jerebko, but I can't say.  Unfortunately, most of the youtube clips of him are just a bunch of dunks off lob passes.
Title: Re: Woj : Daniel Theis has agreed to a two-year deal with the C's
Post by: Darío SpanishFan on July 16, 2017, 05:16:23 PM
I still wonder the role this guy plays. Prob jerebko

I can't imagine this guy being a 10-11th man in our rotation, as Jerebko was.
Title: Re: Woj : Daniel Theis has agreed to a two-year deal with the C's
Post by: saltlover on July 16, 2017, 08:27:52 PM
I still wonder the role this guy plays. Prob jerebko

I can't imagine this guy being a 10-11th man in our rotation, as Jerebko was.

Jerebko was closer to 9th-10th than he was 11th.  He played all of 31 minutes less than Rozier, who was 9th in minutes, and more than double Gerald Green's minutes, who was 11th.

I think Theis will be a 12th man type (Zeller minutes or fewer), but I'm not sure that Jerebko would have any larger of a role this year than Theis.  We have so many more options at the stretch 4 this year that have more versatility to their game than Jerebko.  So when I say Theis will have Jerebko's role, I mean what JJ would have had this year had he returned, and not what his role was last year.
Title: Re: Woj : Daniel Theis has agreed to a two-year deal with the C's
Post by: footey on July 16, 2017, 08:48:00 PM
I still wonder the role this guy plays. Prob jerebko

I can't imagine this guy being a 10-11th man in our rotation, as Jerebko was.

Jerebko was closer to 9th-10th than he was 11th.  He played all of 31 minutes less than Rozier, who was 9th in minutes, and more than double Gerald Green's minutes, who was 11th.

I think Theis will be a 12th man type (Zeller minutes or fewer), but I'm not sure that Jerebko would have any larger of a role this year than Theis.  We have so many more options at the stretch 4 this year that have more versatility to their game than Jerebko.  So when I say Theis will have Jerebko's role, I mean what JJ would have had this year had he returned, and not what his role was last year.

I see Brad experimenting with multiple guys. End of day, most productive guy will get the most minutes.
Title: Re: Woj : Daniel Theis has agreed to a two-year deal with the C's
Post by: saltlover on July 16, 2017, 09:39:42 PM
I still wonder the role this guy plays. Prob jerebko

I can't imagine this guy being a 10-11th man in our rotation, as Jerebko was.

Jerebko was closer to 9th-10th than he was 11th.  He played all of 31 minutes less than Rozier, who was 9th in minutes, and more than double Gerald Green's minutes, who was 11th.

I think Theis will be a 12th man type (Zeller minutes or fewer), but I'm not sure that Jerebko would have any larger of a role this year than Theis.  We have so many more options at the stretch 4 this year that have more versatility to their game than Jerebko.  So when I say Theis will have Jerebko's role, I mean what JJ would have had this year had he returned, and not what his role was last year.

I see Brad experimenting with multiple guys. End of day, most productive guy will get the most minutes.

I agree.  I just think that Theis will be around the 12th most productive guy.  :)
Title: Re: Woj : Daniel Theis has agreed to a two-year deal with the C's
Post by: mrb617 on July 16, 2017, 10:08:33 PM
Anyone suggesting Theis takes Jonas' role keep in mind it seems we will be A LOT deeper this year. If Jonas was 10-11 man off bench last year, this year 10-11 is now what.. Rozier/Tatum/Theis with Semi/Zizic/Yabu behind.
Title: Re: Woj : Daniel Theis has agreed to a two-year deal with the C's
Post by: ThePaintedArea on July 17, 2017, 12:34:51 PM
So they have the German Larry Bird and the Swedish Larry Bird.

German Larry Bird?  More like the German Detlef Schrempt.


I don't care what anyone says, that was funny.

Hah! Well played, sir.
Title: Re: Woj : Daniel Theis has agreed to a two-year deal with the C's
Post by: hwangjini_1 on July 17, 2017, 12:47:12 PM
i see a Chris Birdman Anderson type of role. someone to play solid defense, dish out hard fouls, gets dunked on a lot etc.
again, you would benefit from actually watching his highlights before fingers to keyboard. theis is tough under the basket and being dunked on is not going to be his signature role. ask zizic about that.  ;D

oh, and he shot 41% from 3 point land in europe last year.
Title: Re: Woj : Daniel Theis has agreed to a two-year deal with the C's
Post by: Darío SpanishFan on July 17, 2017, 01:06:09 PM
I still wonder the role this guy plays. Prob jerebko

I can't imagine this guy being a 10-11th man in our rotation, as Jerebko was.

Jerebko was closer to 9th-10th than he was 11th.

Sometimes you are so... salty  :laugh:
Title: Re: Woj : Daniel Theis has agreed to a two-year deal with the C's
Post by: ederson on July 17, 2017, 02:19:04 PM
i see a Chris Birdman Anderson type of role. someone to play solid defense, dish out hard fouls, gets dunked on a lot etc.
again, you would benefit from actually watching his highlights before fingers to keyboard. theis is tough under the basket and being dunked on is not going to be his signature role. ask zizic about that.  ;D

oh, and he shot 41% from 3 point land in europe last year.

Facing most of the time players suitable for the end of an nba bench...

Title: Re: Woj : Daniel Theis has agreed to a two-year deal with the C's
Post by: tarheelsxxiii on July 17, 2017, 02:19:05 PM
Totes see Theis playing more minutes at the 4 than Morris and Crowder.  This is gonna' be one special year, guys!
Title: Re: Woj : Daniel Theis has agreed to a two-year deal with the C's
Post by: vjcsmoke on July 17, 2017, 04:02:02 PM
Can we say 3 and D?

40% plus 3 point shooter.
Averages about a block per game.
Seems to have good hops for a big man.

Euro stats:
https://www.basketball-reference.com/euro/players/daniel-theis-1.html
Title: Re: Woj : Daniel Theis has agreed to a two-year deal with the C's
Post by: Vermont Green on July 17, 2017, 05:07:55 PM
I am envisioning something equivalent to late career David Lee but really don't have much to go on.  It seems that Morris, Horford, and Baynes will get their minutes at PF/C so Theis and Zizic will battle for the remaining 15 minutes or so.  Yabusele could be in the mix too I guess but I don't really expect that.  We know pretty much what we can expect from the Vets but the who knows on Theis and Zizic.  Probably Theis will turn out to be more NBA ready.
Title: Re: Woj : Daniel Theis has agreed to a two-year deal with the C's
Post by: Boise To Boston on July 17, 2017, 09:40:20 PM
I see Theis being kind of like a Birdman Anderson with a deep ball. Undersized for a 5. Under skilled for a 4.  But high energy and high production on the defensive end. I could see him playing a lot of minutes as a stretch 5
Title: Re: Woj : Daniel Theis has agreed to a two-year deal with the C's
Post by: GreenEnvy on July 17, 2017, 09:50:58 PM
I'd be perfectly fine with a 3-and-D stretch big. If he can be a more athletic JJ, I'll be thrilled.
Title: Re: Woj : Daniel Theis has agreed to a two-year deal with the C's
Post by: Boise To Boston on July 17, 2017, 11:09:01 PM
I'd be perfectly fine with a 3-and-D stretch big. If he can be a more athletic JJ, I'll be thrilled.

I think that's exactly what he'll be
Title: Re: Woj : Daniel Theis has agreed to a two-year deal with the C's
Post by: TheSundanceKid on July 18, 2017, 02:10:25 AM
I think he's going to start alongside Horford. Either that or the first big off the bench