Specifically, hearing Ingles could have an offer in the 4-year, $60 million range from the Orlando Magic. If so, hard to see Utah matching.
Grizzlies veteran F Zach Randolph set to meet with teams tonight in Los Angeles. Interest coming from Kings, Thunder, Clippers.
https://twitter.com/daldridgetnt/status/880956597387882497QuoteGrizzlies veteran F Zach Randolph set to meet with teams tonight in Los Angeles. Interest coming from Kings, Thunder, Clippers.
Andre Iguodala set to meet with Sacramento Kings tonight at the start of free agency as well as Spurs, per sources.
https://twitter.com/daldridgetnt/status/880955073274228740QuoteAndre Iguodala set to meet with Sacramento Kings tonight at the start of free agency as well as Spurs, per sources.
Lol at Iggy meeting with the Kings first. He must really be desperate for a pay raise. Probably an implicit threat to Golden State.
https://twitter.com/daldridgetnt/status/880955073274228740QuoteAndre Iguodala set to meet with Sacramento Kings tonight at the start of free agency as well as Spurs, per sources.
Lol at Iggy meeting with the Kings first. He must really be desperate for a pay raise. Probably an implicit threat to Golden State.
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https://twitter.com/TimBontemps/status/880953172482707456?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=http%3A%2F%2Fbleacherreport.com%2Futah-jazzQuoteSpecifically, hearing Ingles could have an offer in the 4-year, $60 million range from the Orlando Magic. If so, hard to see Utah matching.
Great news for us, especially if it happens early in the process. That'd be a hard one for Utah to match, and with Gordon already being shaky with Hill not coming back, he'd certainly be gone if they don't bring Ingles back.
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Blake Griffin has canceled meetings w/ Phoenix & Denver, I'm told. Barring wildcard team swooping in, sense is a return to Clippers coming.
https://mobile.twitter.com/sam_amick/status/880959701562703872
Plan b might be gone
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The Wizards have offered John Wall a four-year contract extension, but he will take some time to consider the offer.
4 YEARS/170M :o
And Jrue Holiday could get a 5/170M deal as early as tonight.
But Isaiah Thomas is not worth 28-30M/Year... ::)
Blake Griffin has canceled meetings w/ Phoenix & Denver, I'm told. Barring wildcard team swooping in, sense is a return to Clippers coming.
Blake Griffin plans to reach agreement on a five-year, $173 million deal with the Los Angeles Clippers, league sources tell The Vertical.
Blake Griffin has canceled meetings w/ Phoenix & Denver, I'm told. Barring wildcard team swooping in, sense is a return to Clippers coming.
https://mobile.twitter.com/sam_amick/status/880959701562703872
Plan b might be gone
He's gone, as @saltlover said above^^
5 year/173M max for him from Clippers.
Blake Griffin has canceled meetings w/ Phoenix & Denver, I'm told. Barring wildcard team swooping in, sense is a return to Clippers coming.
https://mobile.twitter.com/sam_amick/status/880959701562703872
Plan b might be gone
He's gone, as @saltlover said above^^
5 year/173M max for him from Clippers.
Blake Griffin has canceled meetings w/ Phoenix & Denver, I'm told. Barring wildcard team swooping in, sense is a return to Clippers coming.
https://mobile.twitter.com/sam_amick/status/880959701562703872
Plan b might be gone
He's gone, as @saltlover said above^^
5 year/173M max for him from Clippers.
Good news for the Clipper pick. Should be able to be a back-end playoff team for a couple years.
https://twitter.com/daldridgetnt/status/880955073274228740QuoteAndre Iguodala set to meet with Sacramento Kings tonight at the start of free agency as well as Spurs, per sources.
Lol at Iggy meeting with the Kings first. He must really be desperate for a pay raise. Probably an implicit threat to Golden State.
Iggy knows how to play. He's been around quite a while.
Paul George has been traded to OKC, per sources
Paul George has been traded to OKC, per sources
WOW! Paul George traded to OKC Thunder
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Paul George has been traded to OKC, per sources
Oladipo and Sabonis headed to Indy
So with Griffin and George now gone as options, could we trade for Melo as our 4 after signing Hayward? I'm not sure how we'd get enough salary to make it work, though.
I also heard Windhorst say today that Porzingis was still quietly available, but I still doubt his cost is low enough to justify it.
Whatever the case, we're now needing a new plan for a starting 4 next year. I'm not sure where it's going to come from either.
Source confirms that Nene has agreed to four-year, $15 million deal to return to the Rockets, as first reported by Houston Chronicle.
League sources indicate that the Warriors and Stephen Curry are on course to strike their five-year, $201 mil "supermax" deal after midnight
Free agent Patty Mills has agreed to a 4-year, $50M deal to stay with San Antonio, league sources tell ESPN. espn.com/espn/now?nowId…
Jeff Teague has agreed to a three-year, $57M deal with the Minnesota Timberwolves, league sources tell The Vertical. 3rd-year player option.
Chicago RFA Cristiano Felicio has agreed to a four-year, $32 million deal to re-sign with the Bulls, league sources tell The Vertical.
https://twitter.com/ESPNSteinLine/status/880991523759947776?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=http%3A%2F%2Fbleacherreport.com%2FnbaQuoteLeague sources indicate that the Warriors and Stephen Curry are on course to strike their five-year, $201 mil "supermax" deal after midnight
That's a lot of dough.
Sources: Tony Snell has agreed to 4-year, $46M deal -- $44M guaranteed -- to return to Milwaukee. Player option... http://www.espn.com/espn/now?nowId=21-0672652326451811732-4 …
Golden State, Shaun Livingston reach agreement on 3-years, $24 million, league sources tell ESPN.
https://twitter.com/ChrisBHaynes/status/881002060321177600?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=http%3A%2F%2Fbleacherreport.com%2Fgolden-state-warriorsQuoteGolden State, Shaun Livingston reach agreement on 3-years, $24 million, league sources tell ESPN.
Geeze, that seems like a pretty big steal for them. Wasn't he projected to command much more money outside of GS?
Sources: The NBA has set salary cap for 2017-18 season, effective July 1: $99,093,000.
https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/880999467385667584?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=http%3A%2F%2Fbleacherreport.com%2Fmilwaukee-bucksQuoteSources: Tony Snell has agreed to 4-year, $46M deal -- $44M guaranteed -- to return to Milwaukee. Player option... http://www.espn.com/espn/now?nowId=21-0672652326451811732-4 …
https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/881001835296960513?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=http%3A%2F%2Fbleacherreport.com%2FnbaQuoteSources: The NBA has set salary cap for 2017-18 season, effective July 1: $99,093,000.
No help with the cap projection going up, not that it matters quite as much now.
All quiet on the Boston front for now.
Even with Hayward as our primary target and not scheduled to meet him until Sunday, I still would've figured that we'd be hearing some other leaks from Boston.
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The Lakers spoke with free agents Andre Iguodala and Rajon Rondo tonight, league sources tell @espn.
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So, are the Celtics doing anything or is it just Hayward or bust at this point?Don't think we can do much of anything before Hayward makes a decision.
So, are the Celtics doing anything or is it just Hayward or bust at this point?Don't think we can do much of anything before Hayward makes a decision.
So, are the Celtics doing anything or is it just Hayward or bust at this point?Don't think we can do much of anything before Hayward makes a decision.
Bull.
You can talk to guys. Hayward's not a lock, make in roads with other players in case he doesn't commit.
I mean obviously you can talk to guys but you can't make any commitments to anyone and that hurts your ability to have substantive discussions.So, are the Celtics doing anything or is it just Hayward or bust at this point?Don't think we can do much of anything before Hayward makes a decision.
Bull.
You can talk to guys. Hayward's not a lock, make in roads with other players in case he doesn't commit.
I mean obviously you can talk to guys but you can't make any commitments to anyone and that hurts your ability to have substantive discussions.So, are the Celtics doing anything or is it just Hayward or bust at this point?Don't think we can do much of anything before Hayward makes a decision.
Bull.
You can talk to guys. Hayward's not a lock, make in roads with other players in case he doesn't commit.
I.e. Nothing that will get reported.
That's a good point I suppose. I think it was reported that Ainge called Isaiah at midnight a few years ago even though he never really seemed likely to sign him.I mean obviously you can talk to guys but you can't make any commitments to anyone and that hurts your ability to have substantive discussions.So, are the Celtics doing anything or is it just Hayward or bust at this point?Don't think we can do much of anything before Hayward makes a decision.
Bull.
You can talk to guys. Hayward's not a lock, make in roads with other players in case he doesn't commit.
I.e. Nothing that will get reported.
There's a whole market for this. Have you looked at ESPN today?
Ainge just leaked his PG trade "proposal" from the deadline. Kaufman would've tweeted it, with the full Bulpett article about Ainge's midnight calls in the Boston Herald tomorrow.
They also called Hayward that night, just to say hello.That's a good point I suppose. I think it was reported that Ainge called Isaiah at midnight a few years ago even though he never really seemed likely to sign him.I mean obviously you can talk to guys but you can't make any commitments to anyone and that hurts your ability to have substantive discussions.So, are the Celtics doing anything or is it just Hayward or bust at this point?Don't think we can do much of anything before Hayward makes a decision.
Bull.
You can talk to guys. Hayward's not a lock, make in roads with other players in case he doesn't commit.
I.e. Nothing that will get reported.
There's a whole market for this. Have you looked at ESPN today?
Ainge just leaked his PG trade "proposal" from the deadline. Kaufman would've tweeted it, with the full Bulpett article about Ainge's midnight calls in the Boston Herald tomorrow.
room exception? He isn't even worth the minimum. The guy was a cavalier for literally 70 seconds before going down in season ending injury. He's a jokeSo, are the Celtics doing anything or is it just Hayward or bust at this point?Don't think we can do much of anything before Hayward makes a decision.
Bull.
You can talk to guys. Hayward's not a lock, make in roads with other players in case he doesn't commit.
Exactly.
None of these agreements won't be signed until July 7th anyway, so go ahead and talk to players. They know what's up, and they know what we can offer without killing our cap room for our plans.
You can't just do nothing.
Danny, if you're reading this, Andrew Bogut. Call him. NOW! Give him the Room Exception.
Woj says derrick rose was hoping to go to Minnesota to reunite with thibs but wolves went in a diff direction with Teague lol
TrueWoj says derrick rose was hoping to go to Minnesota to reunite with thibs but wolves went in a diff direction with Teague lol
I'm surprised the Wolves didn't make a run at Kyle Lowry. That seems like a better fit to me.
room exception? He isn't even worth the minimum. The guy was a cavalier for literally 70 seconds before going down in season ending injury. He's a jokeSo, are the Celtics doing anything or is it just Hayward or bust at this point?Don't think we can do much of anything before Hayward makes a decision.
Bull.
You can talk to guys. Hayward's not a lock, make in roads with other players in case he doesn't commit.
Exactly.
None of these agreements won't be signed until July 7th anyway, so go ahead and talk to players. They know what's up, and they know what we can offer without killing our cap room for our plans.
You can't just do nothing.
Danny, if you're reading this, Andrew Bogut. Call him. NOW! Give him the Room Exception.
the minimum. I'd prefer to use exceptions on a 4 like jamychael greenroom exception? He isn't even worth the minimum. The guy was a cavalier for literally 70 seconds before going down in season ending injury. He's a jokeSo, are the Celtics doing anything or is it just Hayward or bust at this point?Don't think we can do much of anything before Hayward makes a decision.
Bull.
You can talk to guys. Hayward's not a lock, make in roads with other players in case he doesn't commit.
Exactly.
None of these agreements won't be signed until July 7th anyway, so go ahead and talk to players. They know what's up, and they know what we can offer without killing our cap room for our plans.
You can't just do nothing.
Danny, if you're reading this, Andrew Bogut. Call him. NOW! Give him the Room Exception.
Yeah. The DPOY this year credits him for teaching him a lot.
We have a young Center coming in, why not have a mentor as good as Bogut to teach him the ropes, and be a solid Center option at the same time? I mean, we need a big.
I mean Avery Bradley said KG taught him a lot but I'm not tryna being KG in under the room exception.room exception? He isn't even worth the minimum. The guy was a cavalier for literally 70 seconds before going down in season ending injury. He's a jokeSo, are the Celtics doing anything or is it just Hayward or bust at this point?Don't think we can do much of anything before Hayward makes a decision.
Bull.
You can talk to guys. Hayward's not a lock, make in roads with other players in case he doesn't commit.
Exactly.
None of these agreements won't be signed until July 7th anyway, so go ahead and talk to players. They know what's up, and they know what we can offer without killing our cap room for our plans.
You can't just do nothing.
Danny, if you're reading this, Andrew Bogut. Call him. NOW! Give him the Room Exception.
Yeah. The DPOY this year credits him for teaching him a lot.
We have a young Center coming in, why not have a mentor as good as Bogut to teach him the ropes, and be a solid Center option at the same time? I mean, we need a big.
Enough with the JaMychal Green talk. Seen a few people mentioning him for quite some time. He is a restricted free agent that Memphis will match in a New York second. He isn't worth the time to discuss.what about speights
Speights at the vet min is a good get. He definitely fills a role, though he has his issues too. He is a major black hole. But when on, you can feed him and have a positive bench contributor.Enough with the JaMychal Green talk. Seen a few people mentioning him for quite some time. He is a restricted free agent that Memphis will match in a New York second. He isn't worth the time to discuss.what about speights
I'm ok with Speights, but Bogut just seems like a waste. Guy is washed up. In any case, a vet big is not #1 priority today, I don't think we'll hear about that until after Hayward decision. Decks are cleared for that.Speights at the vet min is a good get. He definitely fills a role, though he has his issues too. He is a major black hole. But when on, you can feed him and have a positive bench contributor.Enough with the JaMychal Green talk. Seen a few people mentioning him for quite some time. He is a restricted free agent that Memphis will match in a New York second. He isn't worth the time to discuss.what about speights
TrueWoj says derrick rose was hoping to go to Minnesota to reunite with thibs but wolves went in a diff direction with Teague lol
I'm surprised the Wolves didn't make a run at Kyle Lowry. That seems like a better fit to me.
Wolves making run for Millsap too
https://twitter.com/FisolaNYDN/status/880996542328565760
TrueWoj says derrick rose was hoping to go to Minnesota to reunite with thibs but wolves went in a diff direction with Teague lol
I'm surprised the Wolves didn't make a run at Kyle Lowry. That seems like a better fit to me.
Wolves making run for Millsap too
https://twitter.com/FisolaNYDN/status/880996542328565760
I'm guessing it's a salary cap thing. Teague didn't get the max whereas a player like Lowry might command it. I think the Wolves would rather have Teague-Millsap than just Lowry. Man, imagine that lineup:
Teague-Butler-Wiggins-Millsap-KAT
The wolves are looking good! I'd root for them.
So Lowry and Millsap are next, right? If they go to the West too, it's just 2 more reasons the C's will be in even better position in the East, at least. Haven't heard much from Washington, Toronto, Atlanta, Cleveland...
TrueWoj says derrick rose was hoping to go to Minnesota to reunite with thibs but wolves went in a diff direction with Teague lol
I'm surprised the Wolves didn't make a run at Kyle Lowry. That seems like a better fit to me.
Wolves making run for Millsap too
https://twitter.com/FisolaNYDN/status/880996542328565760
I'm guessing it's a salary cap thing. Teague didn't get the max whereas a player like Lowry might command it. I think the Wolves would rather have Teague-Millsap than just Lowry. Man, imagine that lineup:
Teague-Butler-Wiggins-Millsap-KAT
The wolves are looking good! I'd root for them.
Boy Valenciunas in Brad's system next to Horford would be real nice...So Lowry and Millsap are next, right? If they go to the West too, it's just 2 more reasons the C's will be in even better position in the East, at least. Haven't heard much from Washington, Toronto, Atlanta, Cleveland...
Lowry and Porter both had meetings with their current teams of Toronto and Washington last night. I'd expect the status quo there, mostly. The Raptors are rumored to be looking into moving Valanciunas so they can keep Ibaka and move him to the 5.
Boy Valenciunas in Brad's system next to Horford would be real nice...So Lowry and Millsap are next, right? If they go to the West too, it's just 2 more reasons the C's will be in even better position in the East, at least. Haven't heard much from Washington, Toronto, Atlanta, Cleveland...
Lowry and Porter both had meetings with their current teams of Toronto and Washington last night. I'd expect the status quo there, mostly. The Raptors are rumored to be looking into moving Valanciunas so they can keep Ibaka and move him to the 5.
Andre Iguodala has canceled the remainder of his free agency meetings, league sources tell The Vertical.
Hearing there's a chance a sign-and-trade could be a possibility with Amir Johnson.
I'm assuming for something non guaranteed to create some extra cap space?QuoteHearing there's a chance a sign-and-trade could be a possibility with Amir Johnson.
https://twitter.com/adamhimmelsbach/status/881237350025711620
Nene back to Houston for 4 years, $15 million.
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I'm assuming for something non guaranteed to create some extra cap space?QuoteHearing there's a chance a sign-and-trade could be a possibility with Amir Johnson.
https://twitter.com/adamhimmelsbach/status/881237350025711620
Nene back to Houston for 4 years, $15 million.
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I'm assuming for something non guaranteed to create some extra cap space?QuoteHearing there's a chance a sign-and-trade could be a possibility with Amir Johnson.
https://twitter.com/adamhimmelsbach/status/881237350025711620
Most likely either cash or a somewhat protected second-rounder. Figure out how much Houston has left in non-guaranteeds they can trade, multiply that by 50%, and that's your deal. (At least that's my guess.)
JJ Redick just tweeted "Trust the Process," so he's off to Philly. He's played for 49 different teamshes kind of fools gold. PlAyed for 100 diff teams
JJ Redick has agreed to a one-year, $23 million deal with the 76ers, league sources tell ESPN.
I'm assuming for something non guaranteed to create some extra cap space?QuoteHearing there's a chance a sign-and-trade could be a possibility with Amir Johnson.
https://twitter.com/adamhimmelsbach/status/881237350025711620
Most likely either cash or a somewhat protected second-rounder. Figure out how much Houston has left in non-guaranteeds they can trade, multiply that by 50%, and that's your deal. (At least that's my guess.)
Why wouldn't Houston just waive the non-guaranteed contracts and sign Johnson. Is there a cap space trick involved?
I'm assuming for something non guaranteed to create some extra cap space?QuoteHearing there's a chance a sign-and-trade could be a possibility with Amir Johnson.
https://twitter.com/adamhimmelsbach/status/881237350025711620
Most likely either cash or a somewhat protected second-rounder. Figure out how much Houston has left in non-guaranteeds they can trade, multiply that by 50%, and that's your deal. (At least that's my guess.)
Why wouldn't Houston just waive the non-guaranteed contracts and sign Johnson. Is there a cap space trick involved?
Yes. Houston is over the cap at this point. Give the amount they're over the cap, they can take back 50% +100k of the salaries they send out. (Twitter also thinks they have an $11 million trade exception, but I don't see how they got that unless I missed a trade yesterday or this morning. They didn't have it Thursday.)
QuoteJJ Redick has agreed to a one-year, $23 million deal with the 76ers, league sources tell ESPN.
https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/881243180880076803
Based off the below site, I got roughly 7 mil in non guaranteed contracts. So roughly 10.5 million-sih?I'm assuming for something non guaranteed to create some extra cap space?QuoteHearing there's a chance a sign-and-trade could be a possibility with Amir Johnson.
https://twitter.com/adamhimmelsbach/status/881237350025711620
Most likely either cash or a somewhat protected second-rounder. Figure out how much Houston has left in non-guaranteeds they can trade, multiply that by 50%, and that's your deal. (At least that's my guess.)
Why wouldn't Houston just waive the non-guaranteed contracts and sign Johnson. Is there a cap space trick involved?
Yes. Houston is over the cap at this point. Give the amount they're over the cap, they can take back 50% +100k of the salaries they send out. (Twitter also thinks they have an $11 million trade exception, but I don't see how they got that unless I missed a trade yesterday or this morning. They didn't have it Thursday.)
I give the sixers 35 wins next year at most.They won 28 games last season without Simmons, Fultz and Redick. Embiid only played 31 games. Their starting PG was McConnell a 2nd year undrafted player.
People need to remember that they'll be handing over their offense to two rookies and a big man who has played half a season.
I give the sixers 35 wins next year at most.They won 28 games last season without Simmons, Fultz and Redick. Embiid only played 31 games. Their starting PG was McConnell a 2nd year undrafted player.
People need to remember that they'll be handing over their offense to two rookies and a big man who has played half a season.
Holy cow, Reddick got 23 million for one year. Let's just wait one more week and let all the teams run out of cap space then lowball players.
It is tough to win in the NBA with players who don't play defense. The Sixers biggest advantage is Embiid. If he stays healthy, the Sixers should be a top 10 defense and should make the playoffs.I give the sixers 35 wins next year at most.They won 28 games last season without Simmons, Fultz and Redick. Embiid only played 31 games. Their starting PG was McConnell a 2nd year undrafted player.
People need to remember that they'll be handing over their offense to two rookies and a big man who has played half a season.
*shrug*
Pho's probably right. The Timberwolves won 31 games last year with KAT, Wiggins, Levine (47 games) and Dunn. It's tough to win in the NBA with very young players. Philly's biggest advantage is that they play in the weaker East.
http://www.mercurynews.com/2017/07/01/warriors-to-meet-with-andre-iguodala-offer-him-a-three-year-deal/
Sounds like Iggy is headed back to Golden State.
So far Reddick and Holiday are the biggest surprises to me.The Holiday contract is bonkers.
http://www.mercurynews.com/2017/07/01/warriors-to-meet-with-andre-iguodala-offer-him-a-three-year-deal/
Sounds like Iggy is headed back to Golden State.
Wow. People thought it was impossible they bring back Iggy and Livingston and then resign Durant. All 3 must be taking pay cuts of some sort.
With Curry taking the supermax, it might be really hard to keep that core 4 together for more than 1-2 years.http://www.mercurynews.com/2017/07/01/warriors-to-meet-with-andre-iguodala-offer-him-a-three-year-deal/
Sounds like Iggy is headed back to Golden State.
Wow. People thought it was impossible they bring back Iggy and Livingston and then resign Durant. All 3 must be taking pay cuts of some sort.
QuoteJJ Redick has agreed to a one-year, $23 million deal with the 76ers, league sources tell ESPN.
https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/881243180880076803
QuoteJJ Redick has agreed to a one-year, $23 million deal with the 76ers, league sources tell ESPN.
https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/881243180880076803
sorry, I'm still scraping my jaw off the floor.
QuoteJJ Redick has agreed to a one-year, $23 million deal with the 76ers, league sources tell ESPN.
https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/881243180880076803
sorry, I'm still scraping my jaw off the floor.
Remember they made a comparable offer to Ginobili last offseason. 1 year big $ deals are perfect for using their cap space while keeping future flexibility.
QuoteJJ Redick has agreed to a one-year, $23 million deal with the 76ers, league sources tell ESPN.
https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/881243180880076803
sorry, I'm still scraping my jaw off the floor.
Remember they made a comparable offer to Ginobili last offseason. 1 year big $ deals are perfect for using their cap space while keeping future flexibility.
JJ is also a pretty perfect fit on the floor and in the locker room.
https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/880999591314944001?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=http%3A%2F%2Fbleacherreport.com%2Fchicago-bullsQuoteChicago RFA Cristiano Felicio has agreed to a four-year, $32 million deal to re-sign with the Bulls, league sources tell The Vertical.
Minnesota and Denver favorites to grab Millsap, according to Isola.
Man if Minnesota grab Millsap too... Watch out :o
Sacramento and Phoenix still in the mix. Phoenix will go hard after him after Griffin decided to stay.
That's right. In this league Oladipo has a fine contract. Avery Bradley might make $26. KO might make $21QuoteJJ Redick has agreed to a one-year, $23 million deal with the 76ers, league sources tell ESPN.
https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/881243180880076803
sorry, I'm still scraping my jaw off the floor.
QuoteJJ Redick has agreed to a one-year, $23 million deal with the 76ers, league sources tell ESPN.
https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/881243180880076803
sorry, I'm still scraping my jaw off the floor.
Remember they made a comparable offer to Ginobili last offseason. 1 year big $ deals are perfect for using their cap space while keeping future flexibility.
JJ is also a pretty perfect fit on the floor and in the locker room.
Free agent Amir Johnson has agreed to a one-year, $11M deal with Philadelphia, agent Kevin Bradbury tells ESPN.
Tall Money is gone:I like what Philly has done with Reddick/Johnson. Great vets for a very young team.QuoteFree agent Amir Johnson has agreed to a one-year, $11M deal with Philadelphia, agent Kevin Bradbury tells ESPN.
https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/881271833416183808
$35M for Amir throughout his 3 years with us and the Sixers. Not bad!
Tall Money is gone:I like what Philly has done with Reddick/Johnson. Great vets for a very young team.QuoteFree agent Amir Johnson has agreed to a one-year, $11M deal with Philadelphia, agent Kevin Bradbury tells ESPN.
https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/881271833416183808
$35M for Amir throughout his 3 years with us and the Sixers. Not bad!
Now all they have to do is figure out how to make Embiid injury proof so he can play more than 31 games...Tall Money is gone:I like what Philly has done with Reddick/Johnson. Great vets for a very young team.QuoteFree agent Amir Johnson has agreed to a one-year, $11M deal with Philadelphia, agent Kevin Bradbury tells ESPN.
https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/881271833416183808
$35M for Amir throughout his 3 years with us and the Sixers. Not bad!
Yep. Between Fultz, bringing in solid vets, and presumably renegotiating and extending Covington, they've had one heck of an offseason.
Now all they have to do is figure out how to make Embiid injury proof so he can play more than 31 games...Tall Money is gone:I like what Philly has done with Reddick/Johnson. Great vets for a very young team.QuoteFree agent Amir Johnson has agreed to a one-year, $11M deal with Philadelphia, agent Kevin Bradbury tells ESPN.
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$35M for Amir throughout his 3 years with us and the Sixers. Not bad!
Yep. Between Fultz, bringing in solid vets, and presumably renegotiating and extending Covington, they've had one heck of an offseason.
MCW to the Hornets per Jeff Goodman, not that anyone really cares.Honest truth is I think the Hornets will be sneaky good this season.
MCW to the Hornets per Jeff Goodman, not that anyone really cares.Honest truth is I think the Hornets will be sneaky good this season.
MCW to the Hornets per Jeff Goodman, not that anyone really cares.Honest truth is I think the Hornets will be sneaky good this season.
Sure they could win 35-40 games and be the 6-8 seed in the east.
They won 36 games last year. I think they improved this offseason. They could be a 40-45 win team this year in the East this year.MCW to the Hornets per Jeff Goodman, not that anyone really cares.Honest truth is I think the Hornets will be sneaky good this season.
Sure they could win 35-40 games and be the 6-8 seed in the east.
http://twitter.com/daldridgetnt/status/881276781885632512
Looks like both Phoenix and Minny are out of the Millsap hunt, leaving just Denver for now.
I wonder if Danny would try to nab him if he's still available if Hayward goes elsewhere on Tuesday.
MCW to the Hornets per Jeff Goodman, not that anyone really cares.
MCW to the Hornets per Jeff Goodman, not that anyone really cares.Honest truth is I think the Hornets will be sneaky good this season.
http://twitter.com/daldridgetnt/status/881276781885632512
Looks like both Phoenix and Minny are out of the Millsap hunt, leaving just Denver for now.
I wonder if Danny would try to nab him if he's still available if Hayward goes elsewhere on Tuesday.
http://twitter.com/daldridgetnt/status/881276781885632512
Looks like both Phoenix and Minny are out of the Millsap hunt, leaving just Denver for now.
I wonder if Danny would try to nab him if he's still available if Hayward goes elsewhere on Tuesday.
The only thing I don't like about Millsap is his age. He's already 32. But he fills many needs in terms of position and skillset, and he has experience playing with Horford already.
If we could get him on a short-ish deal, I'd be on board. Not sure that's a realistic hope though.
http://twitter.com/daldridgetnt/status/881276781885632512
Looks like both Phoenix and Minny are out of the Millsap hunt, leaving just Denver for now.
I wonder if Danny would try to nab him if he's still available if Hayward goes elsewhere on Tuesday.
The only thing I don't like about Millsap is his age. He's already 32. But he fills many needs in terms of position and skillset, and he has experience playing with Horford already.
If we could get him on a short-ish deal, I'd be on board. Not sure that's a realistic hope though.
Why can't they do what Philly is doing and overpay him for one year if we whiff on Hayward?
http://twitter.com/daldridgetnt/status/881276781885632512
Looks like both Phoenix and Minny are out of the Millsap hunt, leaving just Denver for now.
I wonder if Danny would try to nab him if he's still available if Hayward goes elsewhere on Tuesday.
The only thing I don't like about Millsap is his age. He's already 32. But he fills many needs in terms of position and skillset, and he has experience playing with Horford already.
If we could get him on a short-ish deal, I'd be on board. Not sure that's a realistic hope though.
http://twitter.com/daldridgetnt/status/881276781885632512
Looks like both Phoenix and Minny are out of the Millsap hunt, leaving just Denver for now.
I wonder if Danny would try to nab him if he's still available if Hayward goes elsewhere on Tuesday.
The only thing I don't like about Millsap is his age. He's already 32. But he fills many needs in terms of position and skillset, and he has experience playing with Horford already.
If we could get him on a short-ish deal, I'd be on board. Not sure that's a realistic hope though.
Why can't they do what Philly is doing and overpay him for one year if we whiff on Hayward?
How do you overpay a guy who's expecting a multi-year max deal?
http://twitter.com/daldridgetnt/status/881276781885632512
Looks like both Phoenix and Minny are out of the Millsap hunt, leaving just Denver for now.
I wonder if Danny would try to nab him if he's still available if Hayward goes elsewhere on Tuesday.
The only thing I don't like about Millsap is his age. He's already 32. But he fills many needs in terms of position and skillset, and he has experience playing with Horford already.
If we could get him on a short-ish deal, I'd be on board. Not sure that's a realistic hope though.
Why can't they do what Philly is doing and overpay him for one year if we whiff on Hayward?
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Restricted free agent Joe Ingles is finalizing a deal to return to the Utah Jazz, Ingles tells ESPN. http://www.espn.com/espn/now?nowId=21-0672977370415634871-4 …
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Restricted free agent Joe Ingles is finalizing a deal to return to the Utah Jazz, Ingles tells ESPN. http://www.espn.com/espn/now?nowId=21-0672977370415634871-4 …
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Restricted free agent Joe Ingles is finalizing a deal to return to the Utah Jazz, Ingles tells ESPN. http://www.espn.com/espn/now?nowId=21-0672977370415634871-4 …
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UPDATE: 4 Years/52M
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Restricted free agent Joe Ingles is finalizing a deal to return to the Utah Jazz, Ingles tells ESPN. http://www.espn.com/espn/now?nowId=21-0672977370415634871-4 …
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UPDATE: 4 Years/52M
That's a heck of a lot for someone like Ingles!
They will be well over the cap if they sign Hayward now, if they sign both, they are close to Portland and Cleveland.https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/881324515233480704QuoteAdrian WojnarowskiVerified account
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Restricted free agent Joe Ingles is finalizing a deal to return to the Utah Jazz, Ingles tells ESPN. http://www.espn.com/espn/now?nowId=21-0672977370415634871-4 …
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UPDATE: 4 Years/52M
That's a heck of a lot for someone like Ingles!
How much cap space does Utah still have? Hill definitely is gone now.
Can they add anyone besides Hayward, or is this pretty much the team now + draft picks?
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Restricted free agent Joe Ingles is finalizing a deal to return to the Utah Jazz, Ingles tells ESPN. http://www.espn.com/espn/now?nowId=21-0672977370415634871-4 …
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UPDATE: 4 Years/52M
That's a heck of a lot for someone like Ingles!
You'd rather have Ingles and his 7 points 3 rebounds and 2 assists per game ahead of Gallinari? OK.https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/881324515233480704QuoteAdrian WojnarowskiVerified account
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Restricted free agent Joe Ingles is finalizing a deal to return to the Utah Jazz, Ingles tells ESPN. http://www.espn.com/espn/now?nowId=21-0672977370415634871-4 …
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UPDATE: 4 Years/52M
That's a heck of a lot for someone like Ingles!
I'd rather have Ingles at that # than Gallo at whatever he's going to get.
Ingles can defend and keep the ball moving. Can play 2-4 in a pinch.
You'd rather have Ingles and his 7 points 3 rebounds and 2 assists per game ahead of Gallinari? OK.https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/881324515233480704QuoteAdrian WojnarowskiVerified account
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Restricted free agent Joe Ingles is finalizing a deal to return to the Utah Jazz, Ingles tells ESPN. http://www.espn.com/espn/now?nowId=21-0672977370415634871-4 …
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UPDATE: 4 Years/52M
That's a heck of a lot for someone like Ingles!
I'd rather have Ingles at that # than Gallo at whatever he's going to get.
Ingles can defend and keep the ball moving. Can play 2-4 in a pinch.
You'd rather have Ingles and his 7 points 3 rebounds and 2 assists per game ahead of Gallinari? OK.https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/881324515233480704QuoteAdrian WojnarowskiVerified account
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Restricted free agent Joe Ingles is finalizing a deal to return to the Utah Jazz, Ingles tells ESPN. http://www.espn.com/espn/now?nowId=21-0672977370415634871-4 …
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UPDATE: 4 Years/52M
That's a heck of a lot for someone like Ingles!
I'd rather have Ingles at that # than Gallo at whatever he's going to get.
Ingles can defend and keep the ball moving. Can play 2-4 in a pinch.
Yeah, I love how people are dumping on Galinari, a player who can average 20 points, create his own shot, and shoot better than almost everyone on our roster. Sure, we don't need players like that.
Yes, he is an excellent offensive player. He is a bit one dimensional, but under CBS I am sure the Celtics would maximize his offensive and give IT a break.You'd rather have Ingles and his 7 points 3 rebounds and 2 assists per game ahead of Gallinari? OK.https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/881324515233480704QuoteAdrian WojnarowskiVerified account
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Restricted free agent Joe Ingles is finalizing a deal to return to the Utah Jazz, Ingles tells ESPN. http://www.espn.com/espn/now?nowId=21-0672977370415634871-4 …
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UPDATE: 4 Years/52M
That's a heck of a lot for someone like Ingles!
I'd rather have Ingles at that # than Gallo at whatever he's going to get.
Ingles can defend and keep the ball moving. Can play 2-4 in a pinch.
Yeah, I love how people are dumping on Galinari, a player who can average 20 points, create his own shot, and shoot better than almost everyone on our roster. Sure, we don't need players like that.
And he does it on elite efficiency. People don't realize how good of an offensive player Gallinari is.
How is it golden St can afford to resign all of these guys?Crudely stated, under the new CBA a team can go over the cap to keep their own players. They cannot to sign free agents. Every big player for GS, save Durant, was drafted by them. Hence, they can sign them as long as they are willing to pay.
How is it golden St can afford to resign all of these guys?Crudely stated, under the new CBA a team can go over the cap to keep their own players. They cannot to sign free agents. Every big player for GS, save Durant, was drafted by them. Hence, they can sign them as long as they are willing to pay.
This is why ainge is accumulating great draft picks. As these players grow, if they pan out the Celtics can pay to keep them. This is why those posters who whine about "too many picks" are missing the point entirely.
Yes, he is an excellent offensive player. He is a bit one dimensional, but under CBS I am sure the Celtics would maximize his offensive and give IT a break.You'd rather have Ingles and his 7 points 3 rebounds and 2 assists per game ahead of Gallinari? OK.https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/881324515233480704QuoteAdrian WojnarowskiVerified account
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Restricted free agent Joe Ingles is finalizing a deal to return to the Utah Jazz, Ingles tells ESPN. http://www.espn.com/espn/now?nowId=21-0672977370415634871-4 …
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UPDATE: 4 Years/52M
That's a heck of a lot for someone like Ingles!
I'd rather have Ingles at that # than Gallo at whatever he's going to get.
Ingles can defend and keep the ball moving. Can play 2-4 in a pinch.
Yeah, I love how people are dumping on Galinari, a player who can average 20 points, create his own shot, and shoot better than almost everyone on our roster. Sure, we don't need players like that.
And he does it on elite efficiency. People don't realize how good of an offensive player Gallinari is.
If it just weren't for his health. :P
PJ Tucker to the Rockets for 4 years/32M
PJ Tucker to the Rockets for 4 years/32M
Nice pickup. One guy you want on your side in a fight.
PJ Tucker to the Rockets for 4 years/32M
PJ Tucker to the Rockets for 4 years/32M
Nice pickup. One guy you want on your side in a fight.
The West has pooped on the East for years now, yet their teams continue to get stronger and stronger.WTH man?!
How is it golden St can afford to resign all of these guys?Crudely stated, under the new CBA a team can go over the cap to keep their own players. They cannot to sign free agents. Every big player for GS, save Durant, was drafted by them. Hence, they can sign them as long as they are willing to pay.
This is why ainge is accumulating great draft picks. As these players grow, if they pan out the Celtics can pay to keep them. This is why those posters who whine about "too many picks" are missing the point entirely.
So it is because they have Bird rights on these guys.
PJ Tucker to the Rockets for 4 years/32M
Nice pickup. One guy you want on your side in a fight.
The West has pooped on the East for years now, yet their teams continue to get stronger and stronger.WTH man?!
The East seems to just have the dumber GMs. I mean, the Toronto guy is supposed to be one of the best and how much did he give away to rent PJ Tucker? What if Ibaka signs somewhere else?
Mike
The disparity between the West and East right now is just crazy.salivating at the chance of cashing in on that Lakers pick next year. If the ping pong balls fall to #2 and the Brooklyn one falls to #1... Lol
Legit playoff contenders in the West:
GS
SA
Houston
OKC
Utah
Portland
Clippers
Memphis
Dallas
Minnesota
Denver
New Orleans
Lakers
Sacramento
Phoenix
The West will be an absolute dogfight next year. 12 out of 15 teams all look to have good shots at the playoffs.
PJ Tucker to the Rockets for 4 years/32MI don't like it. 32 years old and already slowing down.
PJ Tucker to the Rockets for 4 years/32M
Nice pickup. One guy you want on your side in a fight.
The West has pooped on the East for years now, yet their teams continue to get stronger and stronger.WTH man?!
The East seems to just have the dumber GMs. I mean, the Toronto guy is supposed to be one of the best and how much did he give away to rent PJ Tucker? What if Ibaka signs somewhere else?
Mike
Masai Ujiri (the Toronto guy) offered Tucker significantly more money. It's not his fault that Tucker left.
https://twitter.com/windhorstespn/status/881380856635326464
This is not difficult to understand. Teams that are stronger are cashing in and are also more attractive destinations for free agents. Then there's the 'LeBron factor' in the East too where both teams and players don't think they have a shot at the Finals. This will even out if GS wins again and keeps their team together.PJ Tucker to the Rockets for 4 years/32M
Nice pickup. One guy you want on your side in a fight.
The West has pooped on the East for years now, yet their teams continue to get stronger and stronger.WTH man?!
PJ Tucker to the Rockets for 4 years/32M
Nice pickup. One guy you want on your side in a fight.
The West has pooped on the East for years now, yet their teams continue to get stronger and stronger.WTH man?!
The East seems to just have the dumber GMs. I mean, the Toronto guy is supposed to be one of the best and how much did he give away to rent PJ Tucker? What if Ibaka signs somewhere else?
Mike
How is it golden St can afford to resign all of these guys?Crudely stated, under the new CBA a team can go over the cap to keep their own players. They cannot to sign free agents. Every big player for GS, save Durant, was drafted by them. Hence, they can sign them as long as they are willing to pay.
This is why ainge is accumulating great draft picks. As these players grow, if they pan out the Celtics can pay to keep them. This is why those posters who whine about "too many picks" are missing the point entirely.
So it is because they have Bird rights on these guys.
Yes, except Durant. This is why Durant, although he will come to an agreement last, will be the first (or so) signed. #paperwork.
How is it golden St can afford to resign all of these guys?Crudely stated, under the new CBA a team can go over the cap to keep their own players. They cannot to sign free agents. Every big player for GS, save Durant, was drafted by them. Hence, they can sign them as long as they are willing to pay.
This is why ainge is accumulating great draft picks. As these players grow, if they pan out the Celtics can pay to keep them. This is why those posters who whine about "too many picks" are missing the point entirely.
PJ Tucker to the Rockets for 4 years/32M
Nice pickup. One guy you want on your side in a fight.
The West has pooped on the East for years now, yet their teams continue to get stronger and stronger.WTH man?!
The East seems to just have the dumber GMs. I mean, the Toronto guy is supposed to be one of the best and how much did he give away to rent PJ Tucker? What if Ibaka signs somewhere else?
Mike
He gave away two second rounders and Jared Sullinger. Talk about mortgaging the future, eh?
PJ Tucker to the Rockets for 4 years/32MI don't like it. 32 years old and already slowing down.
2 years would be fine for a good backup SF but 4 years is too long. Bad contract.
Same here but I don't think we'll get the LAL pick unless they sneak into 2 or 3. There are just too many BAD teams in the East now though the only thing that helps is how tough the West is and LAL has to play more a lot more games vs. those team. I also hate it that Atlanta now may be the team that is a bottom feeder on the Nets level, as are a few other teams in the East.The disparity between the West and East right now is just crazy.salivating at the chance of cashing in on that Lakers pick next year. If the ping pong balls fall to #2 and the Brooklyn one falls to #1... Lol
Legit playoff contenders in the West:
GS
SA
Houston
OKC
Utah
Portland
Clippers
Memphis
Dallas
Minnesota
Denver
New Orleans
Lakers
Sacramento
Phoenix
The West will be an absolute dogfight next year. 12 out of 15 teams all look to have good shots at the playoffs.
Signing the best available FA on the market would be fireworks.I agree but my point was that we still need a all-star caliber player to compete with Cleveland. Gordon pretty much assures that we're still 2nd best in the East. But that also means that if we stay healthy and the Cavs suffer an injury to one of their top 3 then we'll be the lucky ones to play GSW.
Boston Celtics
1. Signed 2016 first-round pick Ante Zizic to a rookie contract
2. Agreed to a reported two-year deal with forward Daniel Theis
In addition to signing this year's No. 3 overall pick, Jayson Tatum, the Celtics also announced the addition of last year's No. 23 pick. (Rookie contracts for first-round picks are among a handful of deals that can be signed during the moratorium.) Zizic ranked ninth in my 2016 consensus draft projections and backed that up with another solid season split between the Adriatic League -- where he dominated -- and playing tougher competition in EuroLeague with Turkish club Darussafaka Dogus Istanbul.
Depending how the offseason goes, Zizic could start at center for Boston this season. He'd probably play limited minutes in that role with Al Horford finishing games in the middle, but Zizic can hold his own. He's an ultra-high-percentage finisher and an excellent offensive rebounder. Defensively, Zizic projects as a below-average shot blocker and rebounder, but not a liability on that end.
The Celtics also agreed to a long-rumored two-year contract with Theis, a combo big whose projections are similar to Zizic's. Theis had FIBA 3-point range but may struggle to shoot accurately from the NBA 3-point line. Though just 6-foot-9, he blocks enough shots to potentially play some center. Besides size, the big difference between the two players is age. Theis is close to maxed out at age 25 where Zizic is just 20 and can be expected to develop into a quality starter.
https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/881540776768880641
Source: Free agent forward Serge Ibaka has reached deal on three-year, $65M contract to stay with the Toronto
http://twitter.com/BobbyMarks42/status/881543141995585540
Taj Gibson to Twolves for 2/28.
Our big man options are really drying up. It's going to be interesting to see what Danny does at the 4 spot.
http://twitter.com/BobbyMarks42/status/881543141995585540
Taj Gibson to Twolves for 2/28.
Our big man options are really drying up. It's going to be interesting to see what Danny does at the 4 spot.
http://twitter.com/BobbyMarks42/status/881543141995585540
Taj Gibson to Twolves for 2/28.
Our big man options are really drying up. It's going to be interesting to see what Danny does at the 4 spot.
Man, I like what Minny is doing so far. Might need another shooter, but their offseason is shaping up nicely.
http://twitter.com/BobbyMarks42/status/881543141995585540
Taj Gibson to Twolves for 2/28.
Our big man options are really drying up. It's going to be interesting to see what Danny does at the 4 spot.
Man, I like what Minny is doing so far. Might need another shooter, but their offseason is shaping up nicely.
Two of Tom T's favorite exBulls... That is a pretty good looking roster but the west is still stacked. The Twolves should make the playoffs but who falls out in the west. Utah without Hayward would be my guess...
http://twitter.com/BobbyMarks42/status/881543141995585540
Taj Gibson to Twolves for 2/28.
Our big man options are really drying up. It's going to be interesting to see what Danny does at the 4 spot.
Man, I like what Minny is doing so far. Might need another shooter, but their offseason is shaping up nicely.
Two of Tom T's favorite exBulls... That is a pretty good looking roster but the west is still stacked. The Twolves should make the playoffs but who falls out in the west. Utah without Hayward would be my guess...
http://twitter.com/BobbyMarks42/status/881543141995585540
Taj Gibson to Twolves for 2/28.
Our big man options are really drying up. It's going to be interesting to see what Danny does at the 4 spot.
Man, I like what Minny is doing so far. Might need another shooter, but their offseason is shaping up nicely.
Two of Tom T's favorite exBulls... That is a pretty good looking roster but the west is still stacked. The Twolves should make the playoffs but who falls out in the west. Utah without Hayward would be my guess...
I think Utah even with Hayward would be fighting for a playoff spot. I like Gobert and Favors, but they don't have enough there. Rubio doesnt move the needle for them.
http://twitter.com/BobbyMarks42/status/881543141995585540
Taj Gibson to Twolves for 2/28.
Our big man options are really drying up. It's going to be interesting to see what Danny does at the 4 spot.
Man, I like what Minny is doing so far. Might need another shooter, but their offseason is shaping up nicely.
Two of Tom T's favorite exBulls... That is a pretty good looking roster but the west is still stacked. The Twolves should make the playoffs but who falls out in the west. Utah without Hayward would be my guess...
Honestly, at this point Utah might be fighting tooth and nail just to make the playoffs even with Hayward. Here's how I have them ranked:
Tier 1: GS
Tier 2: SA, Houston, OKC
Tier 3: Utah, Portland (w/ Nurkic), Denver (w/ Millsap), Minny, LAC, Memphis, NO, Dallas
Tier 4: LAL, Sacramento, Phoenix
It wouldn't surprise me at all if Minny, Denver, and Portland all take big jumps again this year with their roster additions from the deadline, draft, or free agency. I think Utah has first round fodder written all over it with no real chance of significantly improving.
Thanks to jpotter for redirecting me here
So, according to a Croatian (I guess) source, Milos Teodosic is coming to the Bulls with a 48/4 contract.
http://sport.blic.rs/kosarka/nba/fantastican-ugovor-teo-cikagu-uzima-48-miliona-dolara/s9p02lh
And Taj Gibson with a 28/2 deal to Minny
https://twitter.com/sam_amick/status/881542700612280320
Ibaka 65/3 at Toronto
https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/881540776768880641
@jpotter I'm a bit puzzled with the Teodosic signing. Never been a great fun - he sure is a great playmaker but he is inconsistent and a bad on ball defender, and that's by Euroleague standards. The Bulls better know what they are doing.
Here is a nice summary of what we got so far by Reddit
(https://i.gyazo.com/20a2a89ea6aca4a324e0082b86431758.png)
34 million for jj reddick and amor Johnson? :o
Korver 22/3 Cavs
https://twitter.com/WindhorstESPN/status/881605148270706689
Korver 22/3 Cavs
https://twitter.com/WindhorstESPN/status/881605148270706689
Nene 11/3 at Rockets
https://twitter.com/Jonathan_Feigen/status/881606454746198018
Korver 22/3 Cavs
https://twitter.com/WindhorstESPN/status/881605148270706689
LOL, and now Cleveland's luxury tax bill goes from 20M to about 42M now..
Korver 22/3 Cavs
https://twitter.com/WindhorstESPN/status/881605148270706689
LOL, and now Cleveland's luxury tax bill goes from 20M to about 42M now..
Korver is toast. Isn't this guy like 36 years old....
Lowry re-signed with Raptors
https://twitter.com/RealGM/status/881622435262377984?s=09
Celtics have requested waivers on Tyler Zeller.
https://twitter.com/celtics/status/881619757270786048
@phantom
havent seen Lowry's contract details yet.
I think Pelicans will still struggle. Which is why Danny is hanging onto the picks. We will be most likely players in Pelicans rebuild.http://twitter.com/BobbyMarks42/status/881543141995585540
Taj Gibson to Twolves for 2/28.
Our big man options are really drying up. It's going to be interesting to see what Danny does at the 4 spot.
Man, I like what Minny is doing so far. Might need another shooter, but their offseason is shaping up nicely.
Two of Tom T's favorite exBulls... That is a pretty good looking roster but the west is still stacked. The Twolves should make the playoffs but who falls out in the west. Utah without Hayward would be my guess...
Honestly, at this point Utah might be fighting tooth and nail just to make the playoffs even with Hayward. Here's how I have them ranked:
Tier 1: GS
Tier 2: SA, Houston, OKC
Tier 3: Utah, Portland (w/ Nurkic), Denver (w/ Millsap), Minny, LAC, Memphis, NO, Dallas
Tier 4: LAL, Sacramento, Phoenix
It wouldn't surprise me at all if Minny, Denver, and Portland all take big jumps again this year with their roster additions from the deadline, draft, or free agency. I think Utah has first round fodder written all over it with no real chance of significantly improving.
Lowry re-signed with Raptors
https://twitter.com/RealGM/status/881622435262377984?s=09
Really curious to see what the contract is.
Are Toronto in the luxury tax now?
Lowry re-signed with Raptors
https://twitter.com/RealGM/status/881622435262377984?s=09
Really curious to see what the contract is.
Are Toronto in the luxury tax now?
I'm seeing 3/100.
Read Cs working on a sign and trade for Amir. ??
Lowry re-signed with Raptors
https://twitter.com/RealGM/status/881622435262377984?s=09
Really curious to see what the contract is.
Are Toronto in the luxury tax now?
I'm seeing 3/100.
Yep, just saw.
If he gets 3/100, then Isaiah is getting more, whether people agree or not.
Maybe with a 4th year too.
Lowry re-signed with Raptors
https://twitter.com/RealGM/status/881622435262377984?s=09
Really curious to see what the contract is.
Are Toronto in the luxury tax now?
I'm seeing 3/100.
Yep, just saw.
If he gets 3/100, then Isaiah is getting more, whether people agree or not.
Maybe with a 4th year too.
Lowry re-signed with Raptors
https://twitter.com/RealGM/status/881622435262377984?s=09
Really curious to see what the contract is.
Are Toronto in the luxury tax now?
I'm seeing 3/100.
Yep, just saw.
If he gets 3/100, then Isaiah is getting more, whether people agree or not.
Maybe with a 4th year too.
Isaiah cannot get more over 3 years. Lowry has been in the league long enough to beeligible for the 10+ max. IT will be at the 7-9 max next summer.
Korver 22/3 Cavs
https://twitter.com/WindhorstESPN/status/881605148270706689
Korver 22/3 Cavs
https://twitter.com/WindhorstESPN/status/881605148270706689
3 years for Korver? He is 36 years old! Yuck
Korver 22/3 Cavs
https://twitter.com/WindhorstESPN/status/881605148270706689
3 years for Korver? He is 36 years old! Yuck
Third year isn't fully guaranteed.
Wall-Beal-Porter is a nice core. Paying the tax for that core is tough to stomach.
Wall-Beal-Porter is a nice core. Paying the tax for that core is tough to stomach.
I still can't imagine that they let him go, though. I remember reading after our series that they planned on trading Gortat to save some money.
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2711393-otto-porter-reportedly-offered-max-contract-offer-sheet-by-kings
Looks like Otto Porter has signed a max 4/106 offer sheet with the Kings.
I know it's unrealistic at this point, but that would be pretty sweet if Washington let him go and didn't match. That'd really help us with both the LA and Brooklyn picks, and it'd help an Eastern rival get significantly worse.
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2711393-otto-porter-reportedly-offered-max-contract-offer-sheet-by-kings
Looks like Otto Porter has signed a max 4/106 offer sheet with the Kings.
I know it's unrealistic at this point, but that would be pretty sweet if Washington let him go and didn't match. That'd really help us with both the LA and Brooklyn picks, and it'd help an Eastern rival get significantly worse.
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2711393-otto-porter-reportedly-offered-max-contract-offer-sheet-by-kings
Looks like Otto Porter has signed a max 4/106 offer sheet with the Kings.
I know it's unrealistic at this point, but that would be pretty sweet if Washington let him go and didn't match. That'd really help us with both the LA and Brooklyn picks, and it'd help an Eastern rival get significantly worse.
Not good for us if Kings improve...
Lowry re-signed with Raptors
https://twitter.com/RealGM/status/881622435262377984?s=09
Really curious to see what the contract is.
Are Toronto in the luxury tax now?
I'm seeing 3/100.
Yep, just saw.
If he gets 3/100, then Isaiah is getting more, whether people agree or not.
Maybe with a 4th year too.
Who were The Raptors bidding against with this contract? I didn't hear that anyone else was interested. That's why so many teams aren't ever going to play for a championship. That's an over pay for a 31 year old guard that relies on speed coming off an injury...
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2711393-otto-porter-reportedly-offered-max-contract-offer-sheet-by-kings
Looks like Otto Porter has signed a max 4/106 offer sheet with the Kings.
I know it's unrealistic at this point, but that would be pretty sweet if Washington let him go and didn't match. That'd really help us with both the LA and Brooklyn picks, and it'd help an Eastern rival get significantly worse.
Not good for us if Kings improve...
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2711393-otto-porter-reportedly-offered-max-contract-offer-sheet-by-kings
Looks like Otto Porter has signed a max 4/106 offer sheet with the Kings.
I know it's unrealistic at this point, but that would be pretty sweet if Washington let him go and didn't match. That'd really help us with both the LA and Brooklyn picks, and it'd help an Eastern rival get significantly worse.
Not good for us if Kings improve...
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2711393-otto-porter-reportedly-offered-max-contract-offer-sheet-by-kings
Looks like Otto Porter has signed a max 4/106 offer sheet with the Kings.
I know it's unrealistic at this point, but that would be pretty sweet if Washington let him go and didn't match. That'd really help us with both the LA and Brooklyn picks, and it'd help an Eastern rival get significantly worse.
How do you get a max contract averaging 13.4 points and 6.4 rebounds? That's ludicrous!
Gortat for zeller and fillerWall-Beal-Porter is a nice core. Paying the tax for that core is tough to stomach.
I still can't imagine that they let him go, though. I remember reading after our series that they planned on trading Gortat to save some money.
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2711393-otto-porter-reportedly-offered-max-contract-offer-sheet-by-kings
Looks like Otto Porter has signed a max 4/106 offer sheet with the Kings.
I know it's unrealistic at this point, but that would be pretty sweet if Washington let him go and didn't match. That'd really help us with both the LA and Brooklyn picks, and it'd help an Eastern rival get significantly worse.
How do you get a max contract averaging 13.4 points and 6.4 rebounds? That's ludicrous!
Do it at the age of 23-24, and with the best efficiency in the league for your position.
Gortat for zeller and fillerWall-Beal-Porter is a nice core. Paying the tax for that core is tough to stomach.
I still can't imagine that they let him go, though. I remember reading after our series that they planned on trading Gortat to save some money.
Is Otto Porter the new Jeff Green?
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2711393-otto-porter-reportedly-offered-max-contract-offer-sheet-by-kings
Looks like Otto Porter has signed a max 4/106 offer sheet with the Kings.
I know it's unrealistic at this point, but that would be pretty sweet if Washington let him go and didn't match. That'd really help us with both the LA and Brooklyn picks, and it'd help an Eastern rival get significantly worse.
How do you get a max contract averaging 13.4 points and 6.4 rebounds? That's ludicrous!
Do it at the age of 23-24, and with the best efficiency in the league for your position.
It's also important to differentiate between max contracts. Porter's 25% max is a little different from Steph's 35%.
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2711393-otto-porter-reportedly-offered-max-contract-offer-sheet-by-kings
Looks like Otto Porter has signed a max 4/106 offer sheet with the Kings.
I know it's unrealistic at this point, but that would be pretty sweet if Washington let him go and didn't match. That'd really help us with both the LA and Brooklyn picks, and it'd help an Eastern rival get significantly worse.
How do you get a max contract averaging 13.4 points and 6.4 rebounds? That's ludicrous!
Do it at the age of 23-24, and with the best efficiency in the league for your position.
It's also important to differentiate between max contracts. Porter's 25% max is a little different from Steph's 35%.
Yes, but I'm tired of telling people that because they rarely listen.
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2711393-otto-porter-reportedly-offered-max-contract-offer-sheet-by-kings
Looks like Otto Porter has signed a max 4/106 offer sheet with the Kings.
I know it's unrealistic at this point, but that would be pretty sweet if Washington let him go and didn't match. That'd really help us with both the LA and Brooklyn picks, and it'd help an Eastern rival get significantly worse.
How do you get a max contract averaging 13.4 points and 6.4 rebounds? That's ludicrous!
Do it at the age of 23-24, and with the best efficiency in the league for your position.
Lowry re-signed with Raptors
https://twitter.com/RealGM/status/881622435262377984?s=09
Really curious to see what the contract is.
Are Toronto in the luxury tax now?
I'm seeing 3/100.
Is Otto Porter the new Jeff Green?
Jeff Green never had a season 75% as good as what Porter just had, nor showed the year-to-year improvement the Porter has throughout his career. Yes, the deal bets that a player who's 24 will continue to improve, but many players do improve from that age, and this one improved significantly every season so far.
Their similarities end at body type and alma mater.
Is Otto Porter the new Jeff Green?
Jeff Green never had a season 75% as good as what Porter just had, nor showed the year-to-year improvement the Porter has throughout his career. Yes, the deal bets that a player who's 24 will continue to improve, but many players do improve from that age, and this one improved significantly every season so far.
Their similarities end at body type and alma mater.
Jeff Green Career 13.5 pts 4.7 rebounds 33 % 3pt
Otto Porter Career 9.3 pts 4.4rebounds 38% 3pt
lolIs Otto Porter the new Jeff Green?
Jeff Green never had a season 75% as good as what Porter just had, nor showed the year-to-year improvement the Porter has throughout his career. Yes, the deal bets that a player who's 24 will continue to improve, but many players do improve from that age, and this one improved significantly every season so far.
Their similarities end at body type and alma mater.
Jeff Green Career 13.5 pts 4.7 rebounds 33 % 3pt
Otto Porter Career 9.3 pts 4.4rebounds 38% 3pt
He said "season."
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2711393-otto-porter-reportedly-offered-max-contract-offer-sheet-by-kings
Looks like Otto Porter has signed a max 4/106 offer sheet with the Kings.
I know it's unrealistic at this point, but that would be pretty sweet if Washington let him go and didn't match. That'd really help us with both the LA and Brooklyn picks, and it'd help an Eastern rival get significantly worse.
How do you get a max contract averaging 13.4 points and 6.4 rebounds? That's ludicrous!
Do it at the age of 23-24, and with the best efficiency in the league for your position.
$26.5 million per year still seems a bit steep, but that's the market.
It's also why people who think Oladipo is ridiculously overpaid are off-base.
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2711393-otto-porter-reportedly-offered-max-contract-offer-sheet-by-kings
Looks like Otto Porter has signed a max 4/106 offer sheet with the Kings.
I know it's unrealistic at this point, but that would be pretty sweet if Washington let him go and didn't match. That'd really help us with both the LA and Brooklyn picks, and it'd help an Eastern rival get significantly worse.
How do you get a max contract averaging 13.4 points and 6.4 rebounds? That's ludicrous!
Do it at the age of 23-24, and with the best efficiency in the league for your position.
$26.5 million per year still seems a bit steep, but that's the market.
It's also why people who think Oladipo is ridiculously overpaid are off-base.
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2711393-otto-porter-reportedly-offered-max-contract-offer-sheet-by-kings
Looks like Otto Porter has signed a max 4/106 offer sheet with the Kings.
I know it's unrealistic at this point, but that would be pretty sweet if Washington let him go and didn't match. That'd really help us with both the LA and Brooklyn picks, and it'd help an Eastern rival get significantly worse.
How do you get a max contract averaging 13.4 points and 6.4 rebounds? That's ludicrous!
Do it at the age of 23-24, and with the best efficiency in the league for your position.
$26.5 million per year still seems a bit steep, but that's the market.
It's also why people who think Oladipo is ridiculously overpaid are off-base.
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2711393-otto-porter-reportedly-offered-max-contract-offer-sheet-by-kings
Looks like Otto Porter has signed a max 4/106 offer sheet with the Kings.
I know it's unrealistic at this point, but that would be pretty sweet if Washington let him go and didn't match. That'd really help us with both the LA and Brooklyn picks, and it'd help an Eastern rival get significantly worse.
How do you get a max contract averaging 13.4 points and 6.4 rebounds? That's ludicrous!
Do it at the age of 23-24, and with the best efficiency in the league for your position.
$26.5 million per year still seems a bit steep, but that's the market.
It's also why people who think Oladipo is ridiculously overpaid are off-base.
A player's value in a trade is determined by his production on the court minus his salary. If Oladipo is fairly paid, he should have essentially neutral trade value. If he's in fact overpaid -- and my multiyear projections suggest he is, by about $16 million over the next three seasons -- then he should actually have negative value.
Is Otto Porter the new Jeff Green?
Jeff Green never had a season 75% as good as what Porter just had, nor showed the year-to-year improvement the Porter has throughout his career. Yes, the deal bets that a player who's 24 will continue to improve, but many players do improve from that age, and this one improved significantly every season so far.
Their similarities end at body type and alma mater.
Jeff Green Career 13.5 pts 4.7 rebounds 33 % 3pt
Otto Porter Career 9.3 pts 4.4rebounds 38% 3pt
He said "season."
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DDxArKqVwAAYR23.jpg:large)Who's that in the upper right?
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DDxArKqVwAAYR23.jpg:large)Who's that in the upper right?
Is Otto Porter the new Jeff Green?
Jeff Green never had a season 75% as good as what Porter just had, nor showed the year-to-year improvement the Porter has throughout his career. Yes, the deal bets that a player who's 24 will continue to improve, but many players do improve from that age, and this one improved significantly every season so far.
Their similarities end at body type and alma mater.
Jeff Green Career 13.5 pts 4.7 rebounds 33 % 3pt
Otto Porter Career 9.3 pts 4.4rebounds 38% 3pt
He said "season."
Jeff Green 2008-2009 season 16.5 pts 6.7 rbs .38 3 point
Otto Porter 2016-2017 13.4 pts 6.4 rbs 43 % 3 point shooting
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DDxArKqVwAAYR23.jpg:large)Who's that in the upper right?
Some dude named Durant.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DDxArKqVwAAYR23.jpg:large)Who's that in the upper right?
Some dude named Durant.
Funny that according to this graph Porter and Hayward are basically on the same level. Hayward a little better offensively and Porter a little bit better defensively.
Considering that Porter is younger and has more room for improvement I find it amusing that lots of posters on this blog mock the offer Porter got from the Kings (which will likely be matched by the Wizards) for a max contract of 26 mln a year and at the same time would be ecstatic if Hayward finally decides to sign a max contract for 31 mln a year with the Celtics.
Something is not right, here.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DDxArKqVwAAYR23.jpg:large)Who's that in the upper right?
Some dude named Durant.
Funny that according to this graph Porter and Hayward are basically on the same level. Hayward a little better offensively and Porter a little bit better defensively.
Considering that Porter is younger and has more room for improvement I find it amusing that lots of posters on this blog mock the offer Porter got from the Kings (which will likely be matched by the Wizards) for a max contract of 26 mln a year and at the same time would be ecstatic if Hayward finally decides to sign a max contract for 31 mln a year with the Celtics.
Something is not right, here.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DDxArKqVwAAYR23.jpg:large)Who's that in the upper right?
Some dude named Durant.
Funny that according to this graph Porter and Hayward are basically on the same level. Hayward a little better offensively and Porter a little bit better defensively.
Considering that Porter is younger and has more room for improvement I find it amusing that lots of posters on this blog mock the offer Porter got from the Kings (which will likely be matched by the Wizards) for a max contract of 26 mln a year and at the same time would be ecstatic if Hayward finally decides to sign a max contract for 31 mln a year with the Celtics.
Something is not right, here.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DDxArKqVwAAYR23.jpg:large)Who's that in the upper right?
Some dude named Durant.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DDxArKqVwAAYR23.jpg:large)Who's that in the upper right?
Some dude named Durant.
Thanks. That's what I thought but was thrown by the "remaining FA" title.
Shabazz Mohammed is now a free agent
https://twitter.com/ChrisBHaynes/status/881679755099164672
Is Otto Porter the new Jeff Green?
Jeff Green never had a season 75% as good as what Porter just had, nor showed the year-to-year improvement the Porter has throughout his career. Yes, the deal bets that a player who's 24 will continue to improve, but many players do improve from that age, and this one improved significantly every season so far.
Their similarities end at body type and alma mater.
Jeff Green Career 13.5 pts 4.7 rebounds 33 % 3pt
Otto Porter Career 9.3 pts 4.4rebounds 38% 3pt
He said "season."
Jeff Green 2008-2009 season 16.5 pts 6.7 rbs .38 3 point
Otto Porter 2016-2017 13.4 pts 6.4 rbs 43 % 3 point shooting
If you're stuck on points and rebounds per game as your metric, I'm not going to debate any further.
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2711393-otto-porter-reportedly-offered-max-contract-offer-sheet-by-kings
Looks like Otto Porter has signed a max 4/106 offer sheet with the Kings.
I know it's unrealistic at this point, but that would be pretty sweet if Washington let him go and didn't match. That'd really help us with both the LA and Brooklyn picks, and it'd help an Eastern rival get significantly worse.
How do you get a max contract averaging 13.4 points and 6.4 rebounds? That's ludicrous!
Do it at the age of 23-24, and with the best efficiency in the league for your position.
$26.5 million per year still seems a bit steep, but that's the market.
It's also why people who think Oladipo is ridiculously overpaid are off-base.
Ridiculously overpaid? Maybe not, considering 4-6 other dumb contracts last year. Overpaid? Absolutely. And it makes Indiana's ridiculously poor haul for George that much more egregious.
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2711393-otto-porter-reportedly-offered-max-contract-offer-sheet-by-kings
Looks like Otto Porter has signed a max 4/106 offer sheet with the Kings.
I know it's unrealistic at this point, but that would be pretty sweet if Washington let him go and didn't match. That'd really help us with both the LA and Brooklyn picks, and it'd help an Eastern rival get significantly worse.
How do you get a max contract averaging 13.4 points and 6.4 rebounds? That's ludicrous!
Do it at the age of 23-24, and with the best efficiency in the league for your position.
$26.5 million per year still seems a bit steep, but that's the market.
It's also why people who think Oladipo is ridiculously overpaid are off-base.
Ridiculously overpaid? Maybe not, considering 4-6 other dumb contracts last year. Overpaid? Absolutely. And it makes Indiana's ridiculously poor haul for George that much more egregious.
Why do we care about underpaid/paid/overpaid? Why is everyone obsessed about contracts?
Is Otto Porter good? YES. Is he healthy? YES. All you need to know.
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2711393-otto-porter-reportedly-offered-max-contract-offer-sheet-by-kings
Looks like Otto Porter has signed a max 4/106 offer sheet with the Kings.
I know it's unrealistic at this point, but that would be pretty sweet if Washington let him go and didn't match. That'd really help us with both the LA and Brooklyn picks, and it'd help an Eastern rival get significantly worse.
How do you get a max contract averaging 13.4 points and 6.4 rebounds? That's ludicrous!
Do it at the age of 23-24, and with the best efficiency in the league for your position.
$26.5 million per year still seems a bit steep, but that's the market.
It's also why people who think Oladipo is ridiculously overpaid are off-base.
Ridiculously overpaid? Maybe not, considering 4-6 other dumb contracts last year. Overpaid? Absolutely. And it makes Indiana's ridiculously poor haul for George that much more egregious.
Why do we care about underpaid/paid/overpaid? Why is everyone obsessed about contracts?
Is Otto Porter good? YES. Is he healthy? YES. All you need to know.
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2711393-otto-porter-reportedly-offered-max-contract-offer-sheet-by-kings
Looks like Otto Porter has signed a max 4/106 offer sheet with the Kings.
I know it's unrealistic at this point, but that would be pretty sweet if Washington let him go and didn't match. That'd really help us with both the LA and Brooklyn picks, and it'd help an Eastern rival get significantly worse.
How do you get a max contract averaging 13.4 points and 6.4 rebounds? That's ludicrous!
Do it at the age of 23-24, and with the best efficiency in the league for your position.
$26.5 million per year still seems a bit steep, but that's the market.
It's also why people who think Oladipo is ridiculously overpaid are off-base.
Ridiculously overpaid? Maybe not, considering 4-6 other dumb contracts last year. Overpaid? Absolutely. And it makes Indiana's ridiculously poor haul for George that much more egregious.
Why do we care about underpaid/paid/overpaid? Why is everyone obsessed about contracts?
Is Otto Porter good? YES. Is he healthy? YES. All you need to know.
We care because it's fun to talk about but also because these contracts don't exist in a vacuum. What Porter gets affects both practically and in expectations what IT, Bradley and Smart will get. The more other teams overpay, the more we have to overpay just to get players' attention.
I would bet money that Evan Turner wanted to stay in Boston. This was the first place in his NBA career where he was successful and appreciated. And I'm sure that as much as we wanted to preserve future cap space, there had to be at least some desire by Ainge and Stevens to keep him. But none of that mattered because Portland came in with an insane offer for a guy who didn't even fit with what their team really needed.
Mike
Milsap to DEnver
$90 mill for a guy who gets dunked on by lebronMilsap to DEnver
yep, 90/3 contract
Good market of PF in Denver for a team in need of a big. With the Millsap signing, Denver now has 6 power forwards.
Bobby Marks tweeted something relevant to those here looking for a PF:QuoteGood market of PF in Denver for a team in need of a big. With the Millsap signing, Denver now has 6 power forwards.
He's counting Jokic, presumably, but:
Jokic
Millsap
Faried
Arthur
Lyles
Hernangomez
Hernangomez is the name to watch for -- after the draft last year, the Nuggets GM said that was the guy Ainge was trying to trade up from #16 to get (he went #15).
Bobby Marks tweeted something relevant to those here looking for a PF:QuoteGood market of PF in Denver for a team in need of a big. With the Millsap signing, Denver now has 6 power forwards.
He's counting Jokic, presumably, but:
Jokic
Millsap
Faried
Arthur
Lyles
Hernangomez
Hernangomez is the name to watch for -- after the draft last year, the Nuggets GM said that was the guy Ainge was trying to trade up from #16 to get (he went #15).
If we'd get Hayward, I actually like the fit of Faried at the 4 for us. He's athletic, a great rebounder, and a decent defender from what I remember. He's not a perfect fit with his lack of spreading the floor, but at this point he'd be our best option if we're looking to get an actual starting caliber 4.
He'd come really cheap, too. It'd just be the salary needed to get him here, which would certainly include AB plus a bit more salary.
Clippers "made a strong impression" on Danilo Gallinari following their meeting in Los Angeles today, per @wojespn.
Ugh I don't like it for us. Another target gone as we keep waiting on Hayward..
wojespn: Sources on @ESPN: Carmelo Anthony is now open to waiving no-trade clause for Houston or Cleveland. es.pn/2tgNpg3
Slightly surprised he's open to playing for Mike dantoni .
We appear to have entered a vicious circle. The West is more talented than the East, so Western teams have to be more aggressive in improving their rosters, which leads to them poaching talent from the East, which makes the East weaker and lessens the need to improve, which makes teams more likely to blow it up and trade their best vets to the West.
Mike
Hill - Harris - Chandler - Millsap - Jokic
That'd be one of my favorite starting lineups in the league.
With Murray, Barton, Lyles, Plumlee off the bench.
Not a contender, but a real fun team.
Hill - Harris - Chandler - Millsap - Jokic
That'd be one of my favorite starting lineups in the league.
With Murray, Barton, Lyles, Plumlee off the bench.
Not a contender, but a real fun team.
We appear to have entered a vicious circle. The West is more talented than the East, so Western teams have to be more aggressive in improving their rosters, which leads to them poaching talent from the East, which makes the East weaker and lessens the need to improve, which makes teams more likely to blow it up and trade their best vets to the West.Yes, and free agents also want to go to teams that are stronger which are out West. The logic hold for both players and teams if you simply pretend GS and CLE do not exist. Wouldn't that be nice... ??? ;D
Mike
Starting when, 2020? Like I just said, we can't pretend LeBron does not exist.We appear to have entered a vicious circle. The West is more talented than the East, so Western teams have to be more aggressive in improving their rosters, which leads to them poaching talent from the East, which makes the East weaker and lessens the need to improve, which makes teams more likely to blow it up and trade their best vets to the West.
Mike
It also makes the East open for us for years to come and 2018 LA pick (2-5) more possible.
Starting when, 2020? Like I just said, we can't pretend LeBron does not exist.We appear to have entered a vicious circle. The West is more talented than the East, so Western teams have to be more aggressive in improving their rosters, which leads to them poaching talent from the East, which makes the East weaker and lessens the need to improve, which makes teams more likely to blow it up and trade their best vets to the West.
Mike
It also makes the East open for us for years to come and 2018 LA pick (2-5) more possible.
Starting when, 2020? Like I just said, we can't pretend LeBron does not exist.We appear to have entered a vicious circle. The West is more talented than the East, so Western teams have to be more aggressive in improving their rosters, which leads to them poaching talent from the East, which makes the East weaker and lessens the need to improve, which makes teams more likely to blow it up and trade their best vets to the West.
Mike
It also makes the East open for us for years to come and 2018 LA pick (2-5) more possible.
Can't just pretend he can't be beaten either.
So moving the conversation from pretending LeBron does not exist to pretending he can be beat is a step in the right direction. However, the evidence is still not on your side.Starting when, 2020? Like I just said, we can't pretend LeBron does not exist.We appear to have entered a vicious circle. The West is more talented than the East, so Western teams have to be more aggressive in improving their rosters, which leads to them poaching talent from the East, which makes the East weaker and lessens the need to improve, which makes teams more likely to blow it up and trade their best vets to the West.
Mike
It also makes the East open for us for years to come and 2018 LA pick (2-5) more possible.
Can't just pretend he can't be beaten either.
Teams in the West are thinking they have a chance to beat the Warriors so why doesn't anyone in the East think they can beat one man in LeBron. I mean he is tired and he is defeated and might be ripe for the taking. His team is not improving. They have no assistant GM to help him. His whole team is getting older - Korver 3yr deal at age 36? They can be beat and the teams in the East just have to believe. The Celtics have to believe. Let's Go!!
Hill - Harris - Chandler - Millsap - Jokic
That'd be one of my favorite starting lineups in the league.
With Murray, Barton, Lyles, Plumlee off the bench.
Not a contender, but a real fun team.
Hill - Harris - Chandler - Millsap - Jokic
That'd be one of my favorite starting lineups in the league.
With Murray, Barton, Lyles, Plumlee off the bench.
Not a contender, but a real fun team.
Minny has put together a real nice team too, they just added Taj Gibson.
Minny is probably the 6 seed out there if Hayward returns to Utah.Hill - Harris - Chandler - Millsap - Jokic
That'd be one of my favorite starting lineups in the league.
With Murray, Barton, Lyles, Plumlee off the bench.
Not a contender, but a real fun team.
Minny has put together a real nice team too, they just added Taj Gibson.
The west is going to be savage this year.
Oh shoot, thought he would be real good on the C's.Hill - Harris - Chandler - Millsap - Jokic
That'd be one of my favorite starting lineups in the league.
With Murray, Barton, Lyles, Plumlee off the bench.
Not a contender, but a real fun team.
Minny has put together a real nice team too, they just added Taj Gibson.
Not getting the high seed finish for Minny. Yes they added Butler, Teague and Gibson but 3 out of their 5 starters and almost their entire bench are poor to awful defenders. They will score but I see them giving up lots of points too. With a Western Conference schedule they may only win about 40-44 games.Wiggins and KAT could and probably should make substantial leaps.
Not getting the high seed finish for Minny. Yes they added Butler, Teague and Gibson but 3 out of their 5 starters and almost their entire bench are poor to awful defenders. They will score but I see them giving up lots of points too. With a Western Conference schedule they may only win about 40-44 games.
Not getting the high seed finish for Minny. Yes they added Butler, Teague and Gibson but 3 out of their 5 starters and almost their entire bench are poor to awful defenders. They will score but I see them giving up lots of points too. With a Western Conference schedule they may only win about 40-44 games.
The west will be a blood bath this year and a least a couple of good teams will miss the playoffs. It could be so bad that they change the playoff seating rules and just seat the 16 best teams after this...
Not getting the high seed finish for Minny. Yes they added Butler, Teague and Gibson but 3 out of their 5 starters and almost their entire bench are poor to awful defenders. They will score but I see them giving up lots of points too. With a Western Conference schedule they may only win about 40-44 games.
The west will be a blood bath this year and a least a couple of good teams will miss the playoffs. It could be so bad that they change the playoff seating rules and just seat the 16 best teams after this...
At this point, they should revamp the playoff seeding.
Starting when, 2020? Like I just said, we can't pretend LeBron does not exist.We appear to have entered a vicious circle. The West is more talented than the East, so Western teams have to be more aggressive in improving their rosters, which leads to them poaching talent from the East, which makes the East weaker and lessens the need to improve, which makes teams more likely to blow it up and trade their best vets to the West.
Mike
It also makes the East open for us for years to come and 2018 LA pick (2-5) more possible.
Can't just pretend he can't be beaten either.
Not getting the high seed finish for Minny. Yes they added Butler, Teague and Gibson but 3 out of their 5 starters and almost their entire bench are poor to awful defenders. They will score but I see them giving up lots of points too. With a Western Conference schedule they may only win about 40-44 games.
The west will be a blood bath this year and a least a couple of good teams will miss the playoffs. It could be so bad that they change the playoff seating rules and just seat the 16 best teams after this...
At this point, they should revamp the playoff seeding.
Why?
Not getting the high seed finish for Minny. Yes they added Butler, Teague and Gibson but 3 out of their 5 starters and almost their entire bench are poor to awful defenders. They will score but I see them giving up lots of points too. With a Western Conference schedule they may only win about 40-44 games.
The west will be a blood bath this year and a least a couple of good teams will miss the playoffs. It could be so bad that they change the playoff seating rules and just seat the 16 best teams after this...
At this point, they should revamp the playoff seeding.
Why?
Because it's a bit ridiculous there may be multiple teams out west could very well finish with winning records and not make the playoffs. I think it sucks for fanbases of teams that are trying to win to miss out.
Bigger picture, those teams that miss the playoffs end up right back in the lottery so young talent just gets funneled out west.
Yup and the teams that are truly terrible out West have to face higher competition on average than the same type of terrible team in the East. So they are far more likely to finish dead last than an identical roster in the eastern conference. Making it more likely that picks 1-3 end up belonging to a western conference team.Not getting the high seed finish for Minny. Yes they added Butler, Teague and Gibson but 3 out of their 5 starters and almost their entire bench are poor to awful defenders. They will score but I see them giving up lots of points too. With a Western Conference schedule they may only win about 40-44 games.
The west will be a blood bath this year and a least a couple of good teams will miss the playoffs. It could be so bad that they change the playoff seating rules and just seat the 16 best teams after this...
At this point, they should revamp the playoff seeding.
Why?
Because it's a bit ridiculous there may be multiple teams out west could very well finish with winning records and not make the playoffs. I think it sucks for fanbases of teams that are trying to win to miss out.
Bigger picture, those teams that miss the playoffs end up right back in the lottery so young talent just gets funneled out west.
I never considered this point which is well taken.
Sam Amick confirms that Kevin Durant will be signing for $25M. Quite the discount.with all the tv and shoe deal, he wont complain
Sam Amick confirms that Kevin Durant will be signing for $25M. Quite the discount.Holy Edited. Profanity and masked profanity are against forum rules and may result in discipline. wasn't his max ~35 mil.
Sam Amick confirms that Kevin Durant will be signing for $25M. Quite the discount.with all the tv and shoe deal, he wont complain
Sam Amick confirms that Kevin Durant will be signing for $25M. Quite the discount.Holy **** wasn't his max ~35 mil.
Warriors players are taking unprecedented paycuts.
Sam Amick confirms that Kevin Durant will be signing for $25M. Quite the discount.Holy **** wasn't his max ~35 mil.
Warriors players are taking unprecedented paycuts.
Sam Amick confirms that Kevin Durant will be signing for $25M. Quite the discount.Holy **** wasn't his max ~35 mil.
Warriors players are taking unprecedented paycuts.
Easier for everyone to talk paycuts when you are dominating the league.Sam Amick confirms that Kevin Durant will be signing for $25M. Quite the discount.Holy **** wasn't his max ~35 mil.
Warriors players are taking unprecedented paycuts.
I hope IT is taking note of this
Doesn't matter a player taking his market value is the norm. It's not really worth noting that two of their guys took market value when so many guys have taken paycuts.Sam Amick confirms that Kevin Durant will be signing for $25M. Quite the discount.Holy **** wasn't his max ~35 mil.
Warriors players are taking unprecedented paycuts.
Not all of them. What did Iggy sign for?
Sam Amick confirms that Kevin Durant will be signing for $25M. Quite the discount.Holy **** wasn't his max ~35 mil.
Warriors players are taking unprecedented paycuts.
so that Curry can sign a world record contract? It's just hard to imagine there won't be some jealousy there, esp if they don't win another ring next season.Sam Amick confirms that Kevin Durant will be signing for $25M. Quite the discount.Holy **** wasn't his max ~35 mil.
Warriors players are taking unprecedented paycuts.
Yep and yep.
so that Curry can sign a world record contract? It's just hard to imagine there won't be some jealousy there, esp if they don't win another ring next season.Sam Amick confirms that Kevin Durant will be signing for $25M. Quite the discount.Holy **** wasn't his max ~35 mil.
Warriors players are taking unprecedented paycuts.
Yep and yep.
so that Curry can sign a world record contract? It's just hard to imagine there won't be some jealousy there, esp if they don't win another ring next season.Sam Amick confirms that Kevin Durant will be signing for $25M. Quite the discount.Holy **** wasn't his max ~35 mil.
Warriors players are taking unprecedented paycuts.
Yep and yep.
I think Durant did the math with some people and decided the paycut allows him to win more, which multiples his potential shoe sales. There's gotta be a weird explanation
This basically certifies warriors win the next 3 or so championships. Lebron has showed ZERO signs of taking a paycut. He advocates for pay raises and for the max to be abolished. He wanted curry be paid $400 million. He will never take a pay cut and for that greed he will pay by not winning anymore
I think Durant did the math with some people and decided the paycut allows him to win more, which multiples his potential shoe sales. There's gotta be a weird explanation
This basically certifies warriors win the next 3 or so championships. Lebron has showed ZERO signs of taking a paycut. He advocates for pay raises and for the max to be abolished. He wanted curry be paid $400 million. He will never take a pay cut and for that greed he will pay by not winning anymore
Dion Waiters to the Knicks for 3 years, $50m
Sam Amick confirms that Kevin Durant will be signing for $25M. Quite the discount.
Dion Waiters to the Knicks for 3 years, $50m
Apparently it is fake
Darren Collison 20/2 Pacers
https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/882025987864702978
Darren Collison 20/2 Pacers
https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/882025987864702978
Someone on reddit made a list of the still available FAs. I doubt it's 100% accurate, but it's useful.
Dirk Nowitzki PF 39 UFA DAL TBD - - - -
Derrick Rose PG 28 UFA NYK TBD - - - -
Pau Gasol PF 36 UFA SAS TBD - - - -
Gordon Hayward SF 27 UFA UTH TBD - - - -
Jeff Green SF 30 UFA ORL TBD - - - -
Manu Ginobili SG 39 UFA SAS TBD - - - -
Rajon Rondo PG 31 UFA CHI TBD - - - -
Rudy Gay SF 30 UFA SAC TBD - - - -
Arron Afflalo SG 31 UFA SAC TBD - - - -
Tyreke Evans SF 27 UFA SAC TBD - - - -
Zach Randolph PF 35 UFA MEM TBD - - - -
Gerald Henderson SG 29 UFA PHI TBD - - - -
Tiago Splitter PF 32 UFA PHI TBD - - - -
Ersan Ilyasova SF 30 UFA ATL TBD - - - -
Anthony Tolliver PF 32 UFA SAC TBD - - - -
Sergio Rodriguez SG 31 UFA PHI TBD - - - -
George Hill PG 31 UFA UTH TBD - - - -
Tyler Zeller C 27 UFA BOS TBD - - - -
Festus Ezeli C 27 UFA POR TBD - - - -
Aron Baynes PF 30 UFA DET TBD - - - -
Patrick Patterson PF 28 UFA TOR TBD - - - -
Ramon Sessions PG 31 UFA CHA TBD - - - -
Nikola Mirotic PF 26 RFA CHI TBD - - - -
Nick Young SF 32 UFA LAL TBD - - - -
Tony Allen SG 35 UFA MEM TBD - - - -
Roy Hibbert C 30 UFA DEN TBD - - - -
Jonas Jerebko PF 30 UFA BOS TBD - - - -
Mike Dunleavy SF 36 UFA ATL TBD - - - -
Otto Porter Jr. SF 24 RFA WAS TBD - - - -
C.J. Miles SG 30 UFA IND TBD - - - -
Jordan Hill C 29 UFA MIN TBD - - - -
Vince Carter SG 40 UFA MEM TBD - - - -
LaVoy Allen PF 28 UFA IND TBD - - - -
Kris Humphries PF 32 UFA ATL TBD - - - -
Udonis Haslem PF 37 UFA MIA TBD - - - -
James Johnson PF 30 UFA MIA TBD - - - -
Leandro Barbosa SG 34 UFA PHX TBD - - - -
Thabo Sefolosha SF 33 UFA ATL TBD - - - -
Alex Len C 24 RFA PHX TBD - - - -
Nick Collison PF 36 UFA OKC TBD - - - -
Nerlens Noel C 23 RFA DAL TBD - - - -
Paul Pierce SF 39 UFA LAC TBD - - - -
Brandon Rush SG 31 UFA MIN TBD - - - -
Bojan Bogdanovic SF 28 RFA WAS TBD - - - -
Anthony Morrow SG 31 UFA CHI TBD - - - -
K.J. McDaniels SG 24 UFA BKN TBD - - - -
Kentavious Caldwell-Pope SG 24 RFA DET TBD - - -
Dante Cunningham PF 30 UFA NOP TBD - - - -
Dion Waiters SG 25 UFA MIA TBD - - - -
Dewayne Dedmon C 27 UFA SAS TBD - - - -
Zaza Pachulia C 33 UFA GSW TBD - - - -
Trey Burke PG 24 RFA WAS TBD - - - -
Aaron Brooks PG 32 UFA IND TBD - - - -
Randy Foye SG 33 UFA BKN TBD - - - -
Shelvin Mack PG 27 UFA UTH TBD - - - -
Kelly Olynyk C 26 RFA BOS TBD - - - -
Luc Richard Mbah a Moute SF 30 UFA LAC TBD - -
Shabazz Muhammad SF 24 UFA MIN TBD - - -
Adreian Payne PF 26 UFA MIN TBD - - - -
James Young SG 21 UFA BOS TBD - - - -
Joffrey Lauvergne PF 25 RFA CHI TBD - - - -
Tyler Ennis PG 22 UFA LAL TBD - - - -
Mason Plumlee C 27 RFA DEN TBD - - - -
David Lee PF 34 UFA SAS TBD - - - -
Metta World Peace SF 37 UFA LAL TBD - - - -
Brandon Bass PF 32 UFA LAC TBD - - - -
Raymond Felton PG 33 UFA LAC TBD - - - -
Jason Terry SG 39 UFA MIL TBD - - - -
James Jones SG 36 UFA CLE TBD - - - -
Beno Udrih PG 34 UFA DET TBD - - - -
Tim Hardaway Jr. SG 25 RFA ATL TBD - - - -
Reggie Bullock SF 26 RFA DET TBD - - - -
Marreese Speights C 29 UFA LAC TBD - - - -
Nando De Colo PG 30 RFA TOR TBD - - - -
Sasha Vujacic SG 33 UFA NYK TBD - - - -
Gerald Green SG 31 UFA BOS TBD - - - -
JaVale McGee C 29 UFA GSW TBD - - - -
Andre Roberson SG 25 RFA OKC TBD - - - -
Ty Lawson PG 29 UFA SAC TBD - - - -
Alan Anderson SG 34 UFA LAC TBD - - - -
Brandon Jennings PG 27 UFA WAS TBD - - - -
Luke Babbitt SF 28 UFA MIA TBD - - - -
Isaiah Canaan PG 26 UFA CHI TBD - - - -
Willie Reed PF 27 UFA MIA TBD - - - -
Brian Roberts PG 31 UFA CHA TBD - - - -
Thomas Robinson PF 26 UFA LAL TBD - - - -
Ian Clark SG 26 UFA GSW TBD - - - -
Jeff Withey C 27 UFA UTH TBD - - - -
Damjan Rudez SF 31 RFA ORL TBD - - - -
James McAdoo SF 24 UFA GSW TBD - - - -
Christian Wood PF 21 UFA CHA TBD - - - -
Michael Beasley SF 28 UFA MIL TBD - - - -
Darrun Hilliard II SF 24 UFA LAC TBD - - - -
Mike Muscala PF 26 UFA ATL TBD - - - -
Maurice N'dour PF 25 UFA NYK TBD - - - -
Jonathon Simmons SG 27 RFA SAS TBD - - - -
Bobby Brown PG 32 RFA HOU TBD - - - -
JaMychal Green PF 27 RFA MEM TBD - - - -
Donatas Motiejunas PF 26 UFA NOP TBD - - - -
Joel Anthony C 34 UFA SAS TBD - - - -
Alan Williams PF 24 RFA PHX TBD - - - -
Ronnie Price PG 34 UFA PHX TBD - - - -
Deron Williams PG 33 UFA CLE TBD - - - -
Matt Barnes SF 37 UFA GSW TBD - - - -
Norris Cole PG 28 UFA OKC TBD - - - -
Derrick Williams PF 26 UFA CLE TBD - - - -
Omri Casspi SF 29 UFA MIN TBD - - - -
Troy Williams SF 22 RFA HOU TBD - - - -
Dahntay Jones SF 36 UFA CLE TBD - - - -
Alex Poythress SF 23 RFA PHI TBD - - - -
Sam Amick confirms that Kevin Durant will be signing for $25M. Quite the discount.Holy **** wasn't his max ~35 mil.
Warriors players are taking unprecedented paycuts.
I hope IT is taking note of this
Sam Amick confirms that Kevin Durant will be signing for $25M. Quite the discount.Holy **** wasn't his max ~35 mil.
Warriors players are taking unprecedented paycuts.
I hope IT is taking note of this
Someone on reddit made a list of the still available FAs. I doubt it's 100% accurate, but it's useful.
Dirk Nowitzki PF 39 UFA DAL TBD - - - -
Derrick Rose PG 28 UFA NYK TBD - - - -
Pau Gasol PF 36 UFA SAS TBD - - - -
Gordon Hayward SF 27 UFA UTH TBD - - - -
Jeff Green SF 30 UFA ORL TBD - - - -
Manu Ginobili SG 39 UFA SAS TBD - - - -
Rajon Rondo PG 31 UFA CHI TBD - - - -
Rudy Gay SF 30 UFA SAC TBD - - - -
Arron Afflalo SG 31 UFA SAC TBD - - - -
Tyreke Evans SF 27 UFA SAC TBD - - - -
Zach Randolph PF 35 UFA MEM TBD - - - -
Gerald Henderson SG 29 UFA PHI TBD - - - -
Tiago Splitter PF 32 UFA PHI TBD - - - -
Ersan Ilyasova SF 30 UFA ATL TBD - - - -
Anthony Tolliver PF 32 UFA SAC TBD - - - -
Sergio Rodriguez SG 31 UFA PHI TBD - - - -
George Hill PG 31 UFA UTH TBD - - - -
Tyler Zeller C 27 UFA BOS TBD - - - -
Festus Ezeli C 27 UFA POR TBD - - - -
Aron Baynes PF 30 UFA DET TBD - - - -
Patrick Patterson PF 28 UFA TOR TBD - - - -
Ramon Sessions PG 31 UFA CHA TBD - - - -
Nikola Mirotic PF 26 RFA CHI TBD - - - -
Nick Young SF 32 UFA LAL TBD - - - -
Tony Allen SG 35 UFA MEM TBD - - - -
Roy Hibbert C 30 UFA DEN TBD - - - -
Jonas Jerebko PF 30 UFA BOS TBD - - - -
Mike Dunleavy SF 36 UFA ATL TBD - - - -
Otto Porter Jr. SF 24 RFA WAS TBD - - - -
C.J. Miles SG 30 UFA IND TBD - - - -
Jordan Hill C 29 UFA MIN TBD - - - -
Vince Carter SG 40 UFA MEM TBD - - - -
LaVoy Allen PF 28 UFA IND TBD - - - -
Kris Humphries PF 32 UFA ATL TBD - - - -
Udonis Haslem PF 37 UFA MIA TBD - - - -
James Johnson PF 30 UFA MIA TBD - - - -
Leandro Barbosa SG 34 UFA PHX TBD - - - -
Thabo Sefolosha SF 33 UFA ATL TBD - - - -
Alex Len C 24 RFA PHX TBD - - - -
Nick Collison PF 36 UFA OKC TBD - - - -
Nerlens Noel C 23 RFA DAL TBD - - - -
Paul Pierce SF 39 UFA LAC TBD - - - -
Brandon Rush SG 31 UFA MIN TBD - - - -
Bojan Bogdanovic SF 28 RFA WAS TBD - - - -
Anthony Morrow SG 31 UFA CHI TBD - - - -
K.J. McDaniels SG 24 UFA BKN TBD - - - -
Kentavious Caldwell-Pope SG 24 RFA DET TBD - - -
Dante Cunningham PF 30 UFA NOP TBD - - - -
Dion Waiters SG 25 UFA MIA TBD - - - -
Dewayne Dedmon C 27 UFA SAS TBD - - - -
Zaza Pachulia C 33 UFA GSW TBD - - - -
Trey Burke PG 24 RFA WAS TBD - - - -
Aaron Brooks PG 32 UFA IND TBD - - - -
Randy Foye SG 33 UFA BKN TBD - - - -
Shelvin Mack PG 27 UFA UTH TBD - - - -
Kelly Olynyk C 26 RFA BOS TBD - - - -
Luc Richard Mbah a Moute SF 30 UFA LAC TBD - -
Shabazz Muhammad SF 24 UFA MIN TBD - - -
Adreian Payne PF 26 UFA MIN TBD - - - -
James Young SG 21 UFA BOS TBD - - - -
Joffrey Lauvergne PF 25 RFA CHI TBD - - - -
Tyler Ennis PG 22 UFA LAL TBD - - - -
Mason Plumlee C 27 RFA DEN TBD - - - -
David Lee PF 34 UFA SAS TBD - - - -
Metta World Peace SF 37 UFA LAL TBD - - - -
Brandon Bass PF 32 UFA LAC TBD - - - -
Raymond Felton PG 33 UFA LAC TBD - - - -
Jason Terry SG 39 UFA MIL TBD - - - -
James Jones SG 36 UFA CLE TBD - - - -
Beno Udrih PG 34 UFA DET TBD - - - -
Tim Hardaway Jr. SG 25 RFA ATL TBD - - - -
Reggie Bullock SF 26 RFA DET TBD - - - -
Marreese Speights C 29 UFA LAC TBD - - - -
Nando De Colo PG 30 RFA TOR TBD - - - -
Sasha Vujacic SG 33 UFA NYK TBD - - - -
Gerald Green SG 31 UFA BOS TBD - - - -
JaVale McGee C 29 UFA GSW TBD - - - -
Andre Roberson SG 25 RFA OKC TBD - - - -
Ty Lawson PG 29 UFA SAC TBD - - - -
Alan Anderson SG 34 UFA LAC TBD - - - -
Brandon Jennings PG 27 UFA WAS TBD - - - -
Luke Babbitt SF 28 UFA MIA TBD - - - -
Isaiah Canaan PG 26 UFA CHI TBD - - - -
Willie Reed PF 27 UFA MIA TBD - - - -
Brian Roberts PG 31 UFA CHA TBD - - - -
Thomas Robinson PF 26 UFA LAL TBD - - - -
Ian Clark SG 26 UFA GSW TBD - - - -
Jeff Withey C 27 UFA UTH TBD - - - -
Damjan Rudez SF 31 RFA ORL TBD - - - -
James McAdoo SF 24 UFA GSW TBD - - - -
Christian Wood PF 21 UFA CHA TBD - - - -
Michael Beasley SF 28 UFA MIL TBD - - - -
Darrun Hilliard II SF 24 UFA LAC TBD - - - -
Mike Muscala PF 26 UFA ATL TBD - - - -
Maurice N'dour PF 25 UFA NYK TBD - - - -
Jonathon Simmons SG 27 RFA SAS TBD - - - -
Bobby Brown PG 32 RFA HOU TBD - - - -
JaMychal Green PF 27 RFA MEM TBD - - - -
Donatas Motiejunas PF 26 UFA NOP TBD - - - -
Joel Anthony C 34 UFA SAS TBD - - - -
Alan Williams PF 24 RFA PHX TBD - - - -
Ronnie Price PG 34 UFA PHX TBD - - - -
Deron Williams PG 33 UFA CLE TBD - - - -
Matt Barnes SF 37 UFA GSW TBD - - - -
Norris Cole PG 28 UFA OKC TBD - - - -
Derrick Williams PF 26 UFA CLE TBD - - - -
Omri Casspi SF 29 UFA MIN TBD - - - -
Troy Williams SF 22 RFA HOU TBD - - - -
Dahntay Jones SF 36 UFA CLE TBD - - - -
Alex Poythress SF 23 RFA PHI TBD - - - -
Remythe last tweet, I had to pause for a sec bcs Millsap is already in Denver.
This is for saltlover really, but maybe Denver re-signs Gallinari and Atlanta Millsap, and then trade them. Everybody keeps bird rights.
edit in strikethrough
https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/882105205835411456
Gallo trade close to completion. There goes Celtics plan D
Doc trades another young player, 2 if you count the 1st round pick, without ever playing him. Rivers refuses to develop young talent because it is hard.
https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/882105205835411456
Gallo trade close to completion. There goes Celtics plan D
Doc trades another young player, 2 if you count the 1st round pick, without ever playing him. Rivers refuses to develop young talent because it is hard.
What evidence is there that Doc is the one making the deal?
Guy named Jerry West in the mix now...https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/882105205835411456
Gallo trade close to completion. There goes Celtics plan D
Doc trades another young player, 2 if you count the 1st round pick, without ever playing him. Rivers refuses to develop young talent because it is hard.
What evidence is there that Doc is the one making the deal?
He's the GM
George Hill to Sacramento for 3 years, $57m.
Zach Randolph to the Kings. 2 Years/24M.
Are the Kings like a serious basketball team all of a sudden?
Are the Kings like a serious basketball team all of a sudden?
We want LAL to be 2nd worst so the pick conveys and Nets to be worst. That gives us #1 and #2.Zach Randolph to the Kings. 2 Years/24M.
Great news for the Lakers pick, because they should be firmly ahead of the Lakers at this point with ZBo and Hill signed.
Now it'll just be down to Phoenix, who should be better than LA, and some of the Eastern Conference teams for competition of the worst in the league.
George Hill really miscalculated turning down an extension. Utah allegedly offered over $20 million per year.
George Hill really miscalculated turning down an extension. Utah allegedly offered over $20 million per year.
I mean, he's getting nearly the same money at $19M per year, just on a squad that won't win nearly as much as Utah.
However, we should be glad about this, because that might ultimately be what pushes Hayward here.
Are the Kings like a serious basketball team all of a sudden?Hill and Randolph went for the last paycheck. Kings have to give the money somewhere. The west is going to be loaded. These two don't like to lose. But we hope the do the following year. Hill not being a Laker helps us with our pick, IMO he is better than Rondo.
Otto Porter 4 years $106m to Kings. I assume Wiz will match.I would think so but if not the Kings might be a playoff team next year
lol not in the west by a long shot.Otto Porter 4 years $106m to Kings. I assume Wiz will match.I would think so but if not the Kings might be a playoff team next year
JaMychal’s agent, Michael Hodges: "I’m looking at two offer sheets & sign-and-trades. Seems to us Memphis is going in a different direction”
Grizzlies beat writer Ronald Tillery just tweeted:QuoteJaMychal’s agent, Michael Hodges: "I’m looking at two offer sheets & sign-and-trades. Seems to us Memphis is going in a different direction”
I wonder if the C's are one of the S&T's.
Grizzlies beat writer Ronald Tillery just tweeted:QuoteJaMychal’s agent, Michael Hodges: "I’m looking at two offer sheets & sign-and-trades. Seems to us Memphis is going in a different direction”
I wonder if the C's are one of the S&T's.
Very interesting.
I do wonder how that would work with Hayward, though? Could we sign Green to an offer sheet first, and then once it clears do some sort of sign and trade with Utah?
I'm not sure, because that would involve cooperation and patience that I'm not sure we'll get.
Hayward is supposedly signing with the Celtics.
Could we sign Hayward and then S&T for Green? I guess it depends on how much money Green is going to get and what the Celtics are willing to send out to match salary for a fringe starter.Grizzlies beat writer Ronald Tillery just tweeted:QuoteJaMychal’s agent, Michael Hodges: "I’m looking at two offer sheets & sign-and-trades. Seems to us Memphis is going in a different direction”
I wonder if the C's are one of the S&T's.
Very interesting.
I do wonder how that would work with Hayward, though? Could we sign Green to an offer sheet first, and then once it clears do some sort of sign and trade with Utah?
I'm not sure, because that would involve cooperation and patience that I'm not sure we'll get.
Could we sign Hayward and then S&T for Green? I guess it depends on how much money Green is going to get and what the Celtics are willing to send out to match salary for a fringe starter.Grizzlies beat writer Ronald Tillery just tweeted:QuoteJaMychal’s agent, Michael Hodges: "I’m looking at two offer sheets & sign-and-trades. Seems to us Memphis is going in a different direction”
I wonder if the C's are one of the S&T's.
Very interesting.
I do wonder how that would work with Hayward, though? Could we sign Green to an offer sheet first, and then once it clears do some sort of sign and trade with Utah?
I'm not sure, because that would involve cooperation and patience that I'm not sure we'll get.
The Kings are screwing up the 2019 pick. It's all on the Lakers to suck next year now.Yes it is, but so far they are cooperating nicely. I personally would prefer 2 top-5 picks in 2018 than 1 top-5 in 2018 and a crap shoot in 2019 when both Philly and Sac could be a lot better.
Meanwhile, Omri Casspi signs a 1 year deal to join the Warriors.
RFA Otto Porter has reached agreement on a four-year, $104M max deal with Brooklyn Nets, league sources tell The Vertical.
QuoteRFA Otto Porter has reached agreement on a four-year, $104M max deal with Brooklyn Nets, league sources tell The Vertical.
https://twitter.com/shamscharania/status/882413029400424449
Gotta hope Washington matches.
QuoteRFA Otto Porter has reached agreement on a four-year, $104M max deal with Brooklyn Nets, league sources tell The Vertical.
https://twitter.com/shamscharania/status/882413029400424449
Gotta hope Washington matches.
Yeah. Cap Washington out, AND make the Nets stay bad.
PLEASE MATCH IT WASHINGTON!
Free agent forward Patrick Patterson has agreed to a three-year, $16.4M deal with the Oklahoma City Thunder, league sources tell ESPN.
Ugh, I was hoping we could somehow sign Patterson. He would have been a great fit next to Horford. :(QuoteFree agent forward Patrick Patterson has agreed to a three-year, $16.4M deal with the Oklahoma City Thunder, league sources tell ESPN.
https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/882420105191325696
Excellent deal and excellent fit. What an offseason by Sam Presti.
To makeit official....Kelly Olynyk, James Young and Jordan Mickey will be signing with any team but the Celtics. 😁
there the guys who occasionally handed out gatorade to teammates on the benchTo makeit official....Kelly Olynyk, James Young and Jordan Mickey will be signing with any team but the Celtics. 😁
I will miss Kelly somewhat but who are the other two?
QuoteFree agent forward Patrick Patterson has agreed to a three-year, $16.4M deal with the Oklahoma City Thunder, league sources tell ESPN.
https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/882420105191325696
Excellent deal and excellent fit. What an offseason by Sam Presti.
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Free agent guard Nick Young has agreed to a one-year, $5.2M deal with the Golden State Warriors, agent Mark Bartelstein tells ESPN.
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Free agent guard Nick Young has agreed to a one-year, $5.2M deal with the Golden State Warriors, agent Mark Bartelstein tells ESPN.
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Indiana has waived guard Monta Ellis, league sources tell The Vertical.
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Free agent guard Dion Waiters is finalizing a deal with the Miami Heat, league sources tell ESPN.
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Indiana has waived guard Monta Ellis, league sources tell The Vertical.
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Free agent guard Dion Waiters is finalizing a deal with the Miami Heat, league sources tell ESPN.
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Free agent guard Dion Waiters is finalizing a deal with the Miami Heat, league sources tell ESPN.
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Sources: Miami Heat and Dion Waiters are discussing a 4-year, $52 million deal.
Durant, Iguodala and Livingston took less money in part so that the Warriors could add Nick Young?
Good that waiters went to heat. If he went to lakers wouldn't have been great for the pick. Not that he's amazing or anythingMy thoughts exactly. Margin of error is small on that pick. One decent player could be the difference between a bottom 4 team and a bottom 7 team.
Durant, Iguodala and Livingston took less money in part so that the Warriors could add Nick Young?
Why not?
40% 3PT shooter last year. Improved defensively. Another 6'7" dude to add to an already lengthy team.
He could easily take Ian Clark's minutes.
Durant, Iguodala and Livingston took less money in part so that the Warriors could add Nick Young?
Why not?
40% 3PT shooter last year. Improved defensively. Another 6'7" dude to add to an already lengthy team.
He could easily take Ian Clark's minutes.
Durant, Iguodala and Livingston took less money in part so that the Warriors could add Nick Young?
Why not?
40% 3PT shooter last year. Improved defensively. Another 6'7" dude to add to an already lengthy team.
He could easily take Ian Clark's minutes.
Because he's a complete knucklehead that adds nothing but shooting. I'd rather reward my loyal guys.
Casspi is a better player than Nick Young.
Durant, Iguodala and Livingston took less money in part so that the Warriors could add Nick Young?
Why not?
40% 3PT shooter last year. Improved defensively. Another 6'7" dude to add to an already lengthy team.
He could easily take Ian Clark's minutes.
Because he's a complete knucklehead that adds nothing but shooting. I'd rather reward my loyal guys.
Casspi is a better player than Nick Young.
Nick Young is fine and all ... but if I am Kevin Durant, I'd rather have my $5 million.kevin has a 9 figure deal with Nike and a separate 9 figure deal with the team. Something tells me 5 mill isn't worth thinking about
Durant, Iguodala and Livingston took less money in part so that the Warriors could add Nick Young?
Why not?
40% 3PT shooter last year. Improved defensively. Another 6'7" dude to add to an already lengthy team.
He could easily take Ian Clark's minutes.
Because he's a complete knucklehead that adds nothing but shooting. I'd rather reward my loyal guys.
Casspi is a better player than Nick Young.
Andre Roberson has agreed to a new three-year, $30M deal with Oklahoma City, league sources tell ESPN.
QuoteAndre Roberson has agreed to a new three-year, $30M deal with Oklahoma City, league sources tell ESPN.
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Nice deal for OKC.
QuoteAndre Roberson has agreed to a new three-year, $30M deal with Oklahoma City, league sources tell ESPN.
https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/882790853172920321
Nice deal for OKC.
Sam Presti is having a terrific offseason.
Anyone else surprised at how litle Dion Waiters got for his contract? How do you think it affects our guards (AB, IT, Smart)?
Anyone else surprised at how litle Dion Waiters got for his contract? How do you think it affects our guards (AB, IT, Smart)?
No, Waiters couldn't get hardly anything in free agency last year. He has a good half season, but a lot of teams certainly remember his first four seasons of chucking, and were likely wary of giving him a big deal.
It's still starter money -- it's just not top-3-on-a-team money. And that seems correct to me.
QuoteAndre Roberson has agreed to a new three-year, $30M deal with Oklahoma City, league sources tell ESPN.
https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/882790853172920321
Nice deal for OKC.
Sam Presti is having a terrific offseason.
Outside of Durant, he's had an unbelievable year+. Ibaka trade, Grant trade, Payne trade, PG, PatPat, Roberson. Unreal.
QuoteAndre Roberson has agreed to a new three-year, $30M deal with Oklahoma City, league sources tell ESPN.
https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/882790853172920321
Nice deal for OKC.
Sam Presti is having a terrific offseason.
Outside of Durant, he's had an unbelievable year+. Ibaka trade, Grant trade, Payne trade, PG, PatPat, Roberson. Unreal.
Yeah but they're a whole bunch of small trades for relatively inconsequential pieces other than 12 months of Paul George.
Considering he traded Ibaka for that Sabonis/Oladipo pack and signed Oladipo to that giant deal 12 months ago, he then flipped all that for a rental that isn't really going to achieve much going into the future.
OKC are going to be in a world of hurt next offseason when Westbrook and George walk out the door.
Fixed for youQuoteAndre Roberson has agreed to a new three-year, $30M deal with Oklahoma City, league sources tell ESPN.
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Nice deal for OKC.
Sam Presti is having a terrific offseason.
Outside of Durant, he's had an unbelievable year+. Ibaka trade, Grant trade, Payne trade, PG, PatPat, Roberson. Unreal.
Yeah but they're a whole bunch of small trades for relatively inconsequential pieces other than 12 months of Paul George.
Considering he traded Ibaka for that Sabonis/Oladipo pack and signed Oladipo to that giant deal 12 months ago, he then flipped all that for a rental that isn't really going to achieve much going into the future.
OKC are going to be in a world of hurt next offseasonwhenif Westbrook and George walk out the door.
He'll still be able to flip both of them for assets.QuoteAndre Roberson has agreed to a new three-year, $30M deal with Oklahoma City, league sources tell ESPN.
https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/882790853172920321
Nice deal for OKC.
Sam Presti is having a terrific offseason.
Outside of Durant, he's had an unbelievable year+. Ibaka trade, Grant trade, Payne trade, PG, PatPat, Roberson. Unreal.
Yeah but they're a whole bunch of small trades for relatively inconsequential pieces other than 12 months of Paul George.
Considering he traded Ibaka for that Sabonis/Oladipo pack and signed Oladipo to that giant deal 12 months ago, he then flipped all that for a rental that isn't really going to achieve much going into the future.
OKC are going to be in a world of hurt next offseason when Westbrook and George walk out the door.
Rudy Gay to the Spurs for 2/17 with a PO per Woj. Gotta say, the fit's a bit of a head-scratcher.
Rudy Gay to the Spurs for 2/17 with a PO per Woj. Gotta say, the fit's a bit of a head-scratcher.
Rudy Gay to the Spurs for 2/17 with a PO per Woj. Gotta say, the fit's a bit of a head-scratcher.Helps them go small with Aldridge at center alongside two big SFs who can score. Makes them pretty tough to matchup against ... if Rudy Gay can recover enough.
Fixed for youQuoteAndre Roberson has agreed to a new three-year, $30M deal with Oklahoma City, league sources tell ESPN.
https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/882790853172920321
Nice deal for OKC.
Sam Presti is having a terrific offseason.
Outside of Durant, he's had an unbelievable year+. Ibaka trade, Grant trade, Payne trade, PG, PatPat, Roberson. Unreal.
Yeah but they're a whole bunch of small trades for relatively inconsequential pieces other than 12 months of Paul George.
Considering he traded Ibaka for that Sabonis/Oladipo pack and signed Oladipo to that giant deal 12 months ago, he then flipped all that for a rental that isn't really going to achieve much going into the future.
OKC are going to be in a world of hurt next offseasonwhenif Westbrook and George walk out the door.
Rudy Gay to the Spurs for 2/17 with a PO per Woj. Gotta say, the fit's a bit of a head-scratcher.
Speaking of baffling, Sacramento signed Vince Carter for 1/8. They do know they own their pick this year, no?
Speaking of baffling, Sacramento signed Vince Carter for 1/8. They do know they own their pick this year, no?
Vlade Divac believes in winning. Not losing on purpose to get better draft picks.
Speaking of baffling, Sacramento signed Vince Carter for 1/8. They do know they own their pick this year, no?
They got to fill the arena. Vince carter is still a draw.
Vlade Divac believes in winning. Not losing on purpose to get better draft picks.
Alright, then his team is going to stay terrible.
Speaking of baffling, Sacramento signed Vince Carter for 1/8. They do know they own their pick this year, no?
Thought for sure Carter would go ring chasing.
Speaking of baffling, Sacramento signed Vince Carter for 1/8. They do know they own their pick this year, no?
They got to fill the arena. Vince carter is still a draw.
I donyonow what I find more surprising, that the Kings signed him, or that he wanted to play for the Kings.
There is a player option in the final year of James Johnson's four year, $60 million deal with Miami.
QuoteThere is a player option in the final year of James Johnson's four year, $60 million deal with Miami.
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Oh boy. I know he was really good last year, but that deal is going to be rough in a year or two.
Story with @Ianbegley: Restricted free agent Tim Hardaway Jr., has signed a 4-year, $71M offer sheet with New York.
QuoteStory with @Ianbegley: Restricted free agent Tim Hardaway Jr., has signed a 4-year, $71M offer sheet with New York.
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QuoteStory with @Ianbegley: Restricted free agent Tim Hardaway Jr., has signed a 4-year, $71M offer sheet with New York.
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QuoteStory with @Ianbegley: Restricted free agent Tim Hardaway Jr., has signed a 4-year, $71M offer sheet with New York.
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WHAT THE *******************************************
Is that an overpay or underpay
QuoteStory with @Ianbegley: Restricted free agent Tim Hardaway Jr., has signed a 4-year, $71M offer sheet with New York.
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WHAT THE *******************************************
Who are these teams bidding against?
With @wojespn, Knicks' offer sheet to Tim Hardaway Jr. contains a 15% trade kicker, league sources told ESPN. 4th year is a player option.
And it gets WORSE:QuoteWith @wojespn, Knicks' offer sheet to Tim Hardaway Jr. contains a 15% trade kicker, league sources told ESPN. 4th year is a player option.
https://twitter.com/ianbegley/status/883163984836255745
I am so sorry, Knicks fans.
And it gets WORSE:QuoteWith @wojespn, Knicks' offer sheet to Tim Hardaway Jr. contains a 15% trade kicker, league sources told ESPN. 4th year is a player option.
https://twitter.com/ianbegley/status/883163984836255745
I am so sorry, Knicks fans.
Yes, correct. Anything that keeps NYK ahead of BKN is fine by me.And it gets WORSE:QuoteWith @wojespn, Knicks' offer sheet to Tim Hardaway Jr. contains a 15% trade kicker, league sources told ESPN. 4th year is a player option.
https://twitter.com/ianbegley/status/883163984836255745
I am so sorry, Knicks fans.
Wasn't he originally on the Knicks and traded away to Atlanta?
And it gets WORSE:QuoteWith @wojespn, Knicks' offer sheet to Tim Hardaway Jr. contains a 15% trade kicker, league sources told ESPN. 4th year is a player option.
https://twitter.com/ianbegley/status/883163984836255745
I am so sorry, Knicks fans.
Rudy gay: 2 yr $17 mill
Hardaway Jr: 4 yr $71 mill
He's a restricted free agent. If they make a reasonable offer, Atlanta would just match it after waiting a couple days to keep the Knicks cap space tied up.QuoteStory with @Ianbegley: Restricted free agent Tim Hardaway Jr., has signed a 4-year, $71M offer sheet with New York.
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WHAT THE *******************************************
Who are these teams bidding against?
Your guess is as good as mine. For the record, my guess is absolutely no one; the Knicks are just a joke.
He's a restricted free agent. If they make a reasonable offer, Atlanta would just match it after waiting a couple days to keep the Knicks cap space tied up.QuoteStory with @Ianbegley: Restricted free agent Tim Hardaway Jr., has signed a 4-year, $71M offer sheet with New York.
https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/883161190817341440
WHAT THE *******************************************
Who are these teams bidding against?
Your guess is as good as mine. For the record, my guess is absolutely no one; the Knicks are just a joke.
He's a restricted free agent. If they make a reasonable offer, Atlanta would just match it after waiting a couple days to keep the Knicks cap space tied up.QuoteStory with @Ianbegley: Restricted free agent Tim Hardaway Jr., has signed a 4-year, $71M offer sheet with New York.
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WHAT THE *******************************************
Who are these teams bidding against?
Your guess is as good as mine. For the record, my guess is absolutely no one; the Knicks are just a joke.
I know. That doesn't make signing THJ to this contract a good idea.
It's probably in our best interest to have Atlanta match in this case. As long as Carmelo and Porzingis are in NY, they're safe from falling behind Brooklyn. Atlanta will be a lot closer to Brooklyn now, though, and even the little bit of help that Hardaway would bring would help us out in that regard.
Rudy Gay to the Spurs for 2/17 with a PO per Woj. Gotta say, the fit's a bit of a head-scratcher.
Rudy Gay to the Spurs for 2/17 with a PO per Woj. Gotta say, the fit's a bit of a head-scratcher.
Not really, imo. Gay, even if he loses at least some of his quickness/athleticism should still be an absolute cannon off the bench and always seems to play his best, on both ends, against the best. If they could get Afflalo, too, they could very well beat the Warriors, imo, depending on what happens with Parker (I still don't understand how and why they could pass on Jawun Evans at the end of the first round, but whatever) and Ginobili, respectively, of course.
Fwiw, it would also be pretty funny to see the Spurs, as opposed to the Kings, get the most out of Tyreke Evans, Afflalo, and Gay. San Antonio really isn't that far away from being able to win it all, imo, but yeah, they really need to get Afflalo, in addition to a couple of other pieces, to be able to so.
Rudy Gay to the Spurs for 2/17 with a PO per Woj. Gotta say, the fit's a bit of a head-scratcher.
Not really, imo. Gay, even if he loses at least some of his quickness/athleticism should still be an absolute cannon off the bench and always seems to play his best, on both ends, against the best. If they could get Afflalo, too, they could very well beat the Warriors, imo, depending on what happens with Parker (I still don't understand how and why they could pass on Jawun Evans at the end of the first round, but whatever) and Ginobili, respectively, of course.
Fwiw, it would also be pretty funny to see the Spurs, as opposed to the Kings, get the most out of Tyreke Evans, Afflalo, and Gay. San Antonio really isn't that far away from being able to win it all, imo, but yeah, they really need to get Afflalo, in addition to a couple of other pieces, to be able to so.
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Free agent Tyreke Evans has agreed to a one-year, $3.3M deal with the Memphis Grizzlies, league sources tell ESPN.
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Free agent Tyreke Evans has agreed to a one-year, $3.3M deal with the Memphis Grizzlies, league sources tell ESPN.
Free agent Bojan Bogdanovic has agreed to a two-year, $21M deal with the Indiana Pacers, league source tells ESPN.
Pacers locking themselves into mediocrity:QuoteFree agent Bojan Bogdanovic has agreed to a two-year, $21M deal with the Indiana Pacers, league source tells ESPN.
https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/883396703071731712
Pacers locking themselves into mediocrity:QuoteFree agent Bojan Bogdanovic has agreed to a two-year, $21M deal with the Indiana Pacers, league source tells ESPN.
https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/883396703071731712
I have no idea what Indy's doing.
Pacers locking themselves into mediocrity:QuoteFree agent Bojan Bogdanovic has agreed to a two-year, $21M deal with the Indiana Pacers, league source tells ESPN.
https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/883396703071731712
I have no idea what Indy's doing.
Evidently, neither does Kevin Pritchard.
Pacers locking themselves into mediocrity:QuoteFree agent Bojan Bogdanovic has agreed to a two-year, $21M deal with the Indiana Pacers, league source tells ESPN.
https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/883396703071731712
I have no idea what Indy's doing.
Evidently, neither does Kevin Pritchard.
Now the rejected Boston offer makes sense. He apparently has an aversion to quality draft picks.
Jamal Crawford and Atlanta Hawks have come to terms on a buyout, league sources tell ESPN.
QuoteJamal Crawford and Atlanta Hawks have come to terms on a buyout, league sources tell ESPN.
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A potential target.
The 2nd year is only 1.5M guaranteed.Pacers locking themselves into mediocrity:QuoteFree agent Bojan Bogdanovic has agreed to a two-year, $21M deal with the Indiana Pacers, league source tells ESPN.
https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/883396703071731712
I have no idea what Indy's doing.
Evidently, neither does Kevin Pritchard.
Jeff Zillgitt @JeffZillgitt
Cavs have reached a deal with free-agent forward Jeff Green, I'm told.
QuoteJeff Zillgitt @JeffZillgitt
Cavs have reached a deal with free-agent forward Jeff Green, I'm told.
Rudy Gay to the Spurs for 2/17 with a PO per Woj. Gotta say, the fit's a bit of a head-scratcher.
Not really, imo. Gay, even if he loses at least some of his quickness/athleticism should still be an absolute cannon off the bench and always seems to play his best, on both ends, against the best. If they could get Afflalo, too, they could very well beat the Warriors, imo, depending on what happens with Parker (I still don't understand how and why they could pass on Jawun Evans at the end of the first round, but whatever) and Ginobili, respectively, of course.
Fwiw, it would also be pretty funny to see the Spurs, as opposed to the Kings, get the most out of Tyreke Evans, Afflalo, and Gay. San Antonio really isn't that far away from being able to win it all, imo, but yeah, they really need to get Afflalo, in addition to a couple of other pieces, to be able to so.
Honestly don't think they're in the same stratosphere as GSW, nor would they be with a new and improved Gay-Afflalo-etc. Club is so well-run that they seem to overachieve like the Celtics do even after losing so much of their talent. I don't see it. Rudy Gay is dumb, the Spurs are not. But whatever, there's till only two real teams in the NBA.
Breaking: James Harden signs a 4-year, $228 million contract extension with the Houston Rockets through the 2022-23 season. (via Adrian Wojnarkowski)So that averages 57 millions year. That is like over 50% of the cap.
Hold his beer, Steph Curry.
Rudy Gay to the Spurs for 2/17 with a PO per Woj. Gotta say, the fit's a bit of a head-scratcher.
Not really, imo. Gay, even if he loses at least some of his quickness/athleticism should still be an absolute cannon off the bench and always seems to play his best, on both ends, against the best. If they could get Afflalo, too, they could very well beat the Warriors, imo, depending on what happens with Parker (I still don't understand how and why they could pass on Jawun Evans at the end of the first round, but whatever) and Ginobili, respectively, of course.
Fwiw, it would also be pretty funny to see the Spurs, as opposed to the Kings, get the most out of Tyreke Evans, Afflalo, and Gay. San Antonio really isn't that far away from being able to win it all, imo, but yeah, they really need to get Afflalo, in addition to a couple of other pieces, to be able to so.
Honestly don't think they're in the same stratosphere as GSW, nor would they be with a new and improved Gay-Afflalo-etc. Club is so well-run that they seem to overachieve like the Celtics do even after losing so much of their talent. I don't see it. Rudy Gay is dumb, the Spurs are not. But whatever, there's till only two real teams in the NBA.
How is Rudy Gay dumb, lol, and did you miss game 1 of the western conference finals where the Spurs were wiping the floor with the Warriors in Golden State and Leonard was the best player on a court with Curry, Thompson, Durant, and Green? If Lady Zaza doesn't pull the Bill Laimbeer move on Kawhi the Spurs more than likely win that first game and it's hardly a foregone conclusion that the Warriors would have even made the Finals, imo, and I'm not even a Leonard fan, lol ;D.
Breaking: James Harden signs a 4-year, $228 million contract extension with the Houston Rockets through the 2022-23 season. (via Adrian Wojnarkowski)So that averages 57 millions year. That is like over 50% of the cap.
Hold his beer, Steph Curry.
Breaking: James Harden signs a 4-year, $228 million contract extension with the Houston Rockets through the 2022-23 season. (via Adrian Wojnarkowski)So that averages 57 millions year. That is like over 50% of the cap.
Hold his beer, Steph Curry.
Could Dallas make a play for Camelo? He fits their time line for Dirk!
Breaking: James Harden signs a 4-year, $228 million contract extension with the Houston Rockets through the 2022-23 season. (via Adrian Wojnarkowski)So that averages 57 millions year. That is like over 50% of the cap.
Hold his beer, Steph Curry.
The report is being worded poorly. He'll make $228M over the next six years.
Could Dallas make a play for Camelo? He fits their time line for Dirk!
No, because Melo would veto it.
Breaking: James Harden signs a 4-year, $228 million contract extension with the Houston Rockets through the 2022-23 season. (via Adrian Wojnarkowski)So that averages 57 millions year. That is like over 50% of the cap.
Hold his beer, Steph Curry.
The report is being worded poorly. He'll make $228M over the next six years.
even at 6 years that is crazy money. when I first read it in this blog, I thought someone was joking. I guess not. (head spinning)
They are adding numbers together. He had 2 years for $59MM left on his current deal with one year being a player option. This next extension makes the 19-20 option guaranteed. The actual extension is 4/170. Which is about $42MM a year. A little more than Curry gotBreaking: James Harden signs a 4-year, $228 million contract extension with the Houston Rockets through the 2022-23 season. (via Adrian Wojnarkowski)So that averages 57 millions year. That is like over 50% of the cap.
Hold his beer, Steph Curry.
The report is being worded poorly. He'll make $228M over the next six years.
even at 6 years that is crazy money. when I first read it in this blog, I thought someone was joking. I guess not. (head spinning)
Toronto has traded DeMarre Carroll, a future first-round and second-round pick to Brooklyn for Justin Hamilton, league sources tell ESPN.
What on earth is going on in Toronto?!QuoteToronto has traded DeMarre Carroll, a future first-round and second-round pick to Brooklyn for Justin Hamilton, league sources tell ESPN.
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What on earth is going on in Toronto?!QuoteToronto has traded DeMarre Carroll, a future first-round and second-round pick to Brooklyn for Justin Hamilton, league sources tell ESPN.
https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/883906068899909632
Toronto is finalizing a sign-and-trade with Indiana to move Cory Joseph for CJ Miles, league sources tell ESPN.
Sources: Toronto-Indiana deal is agreed in principle. Miles will sign a 3-year, approximately $25M deal with Raptors, with player option.
What on earth is going on in Toronto?!QuoteToronto has traded DeMarre Carroll, a future first-round and second-round pick to Brooklyn for Justin Hamilton, league sources tell ESPN.
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Luxury tax avoidance. They were far over the tax line.
QuoteToronto is finalizing a sign-and-trade with Indiana to move Cory Joseph for CJ Miles, league sources tell ESPN.
https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/884102281884442624QuoteSources: Toronto-Indiana deal is agreed in principle. Miles will sign a 3-year, approximately $25M deal with Raptors, with player option.
https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/884105888839081984
Hope people won't go bat**** when we give IT a 4 year max
QuoteToronto is finalizing a sign-and-trade with Indiana to move Cory Joseph for CJ Miles, league sources tell ESPN.
https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/884102281884442624QuoteSources: Toronto-Indiana deal is agreed in principle. Miles will sign a 3-year, approximately $25M deal with Raptors, with player option.
https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/884105888839081984
That's an interesting move. I love how Miles fits in Toronto, who desperately needed some more outside shooting. Will he start at the 3 for them, or will he come off the bench behind Powell?
Then again, losing Joseph could hurt, especially with as injury prone as Lowry has been.
Free agent center Joffrey Lauvergne has agreed to a deal with the San Antonio Spurs, league sources tell The Vertical.
QuoteFree agent center Joffrey Lauvergne has agreed to a deal with the San Antonio Spurs, league sources tell The Vertical.
https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/884486614570983428
QuoteToronto is finalizing a sign-and-trade with Indiana to move Cory Joseph for CJ Miles, league sources tell ESPN.
https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/884102281884442624QuoteSources: Toronto-Indiana deal is agreed in principle. Miles will sign a 3-year, approximately $25M deal with Raptors, with player option.
https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/884105888839081984
That's an interesting move. I love how Miles fits in Toronto, who desperately needed some more outside shooting. Will he start at the 3 for them, or will he come off the bench behind Powell?
Then again, losing Joseph could hurt, especially with as injury prone as Lowry has been.
Do they have a backup to Lowry now? You have to think that if they are willing to make this move then they must have someone lined up in FA. Rose perhaps? Ty Lawson?
QuoteToronto is finalizing a sign-and-trade with Indiana to move Cory Joseph for CJ Miles, league sources tell ESPN.
https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/884102281884442624QuoteSources: Toronto-Indiana deal is agreed in principle. Miles will sign a 3-year, approximately $25M deal with Raptors, with player option.
https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/884105888839081984
That's an interesting move. I love how Miles fits in Toronto, who desperately needed some more outside shooting. Will he start at the 3 for them, or will he come off the bench behind Powell?
Then again, losing Joseph could hurt, especially with as injury prone as Lowry has been.
Do they have a backup to Lowry now? You have to think that if they are willing to make this move then they must have someone lined up in FA. Rose perhaps? Ty Lawson?
Well they were clearly the biggest losers in the Jose Caulderon derby
QuoteToronto is finalizing a sign-and-trade with Indiana to move Cory Joseph for CJ Miles, league sources tell ESPN.
https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/884102281884442624QuoteSources: Toronto-Indiana deal is agreed in principle. Miles will sign a 3-year, approximately $25M deal with Raptors, with player option.
https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/884105888839081984
That's an interesting move. I love how Miles fits in Toronto, who desperately needed some more outside shooting. Will he start at the 3 for them, or will he come off the bench behind Powell?
Then again, losing Joseph could hurt, especially with as injury prone as Lowry has been.
Do they have a backup to Lowry now? You have to think that if they are willing to make this move then they must have someone lined up in FA. Rose perhaps? Ty Lawson?
Well they were clearly the biggest losers in the Jose Caulderon derby
Delon Wright has been decent. Entering his 3rd year, and at age 25, he should be capable of a larger role, especially if DeRozan is on the court with him. I assume that's their plan, similar to what we're looking for from Rozier now that Bradley was traded. Mid-to-late first round picks might not always have immediate impacts, and they may never become stars, but if they can give you rotational minutes on inexpensive contracts for 2-3 seasons, they can provide you the salary flexibility to fill other holes on your roster with more expensive veterans.
Free agent Reggie Bullock has agreed to a two-year, $5M deal to re-sign with the Detroit Pistons, league sources tell The Vertical.
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DeWayne Dedmon two years, $14 million to Atlanta, I'm told. Player option 2nd season.
Restricted free agent Ron Baker's deal to stay with the Knicks: Two-years, $8.9M, including a player option, league sources tell ESPN.
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Westbrook extension would be the largest in NBA history topping the most recent James Harden extension.
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Sources: Pistons and Pelicans have discussed a potential trade of Reggie Jackson for E'Twaun Moore and Alexis Ajinca. Full story coming soon
https://twitter.com/MikeAScotto/status/884909057756217347
Restricted free agent Ron Baker's deal to stay with the Knicks: Two-years, $8.9M, including a player option, league sources tell ESPN.
https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/884847253436997632
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Westbrook extension would be the largest in NBA history topping the most recent James Harden extension.
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Sources: Pistons and Pelicans have discussed a potential trade of Reggie Jackson for E'Twaun Moore and Alexis Ajinca. Full story coming soon
https://twitter.com/MikeAScotto/status/884909057756217347
Wait...what?!?!?
Reggie Jackson for Etwaun Moore and Ajinca? Wow! Pistons trying to give Reggie Jax away.
Free agent Thabo Sefolosha has agreed to a two-year, $10.5M deal with the Utah Jazz, league sources tell The Vertical.
Sources: Despite committing $18M for Caldwell-Pope, Lakers still trying to find a way to sign Rondo. Lakers have a $4.3M exception to use.
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Kentavious Caldwell-Pope projected $18M salary will fit into the Lakers remaining room. The Lakers had $16.5M in...
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I'm told the Lakers have not decided yet on if Rajon Rondo fits into their plans.
https://twitter.com/MarkG_Medina/status/885001634220322816
QuoteFree agent Thabo Sefolosha has agreed to a two-year, $10.5M deal with the Utah Jazz, league sources tell The Vertical.
https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/885197006318075904
It is not that hard to not be a the bottom 5 team out of 30 teams.Sources: Despite committing $18M for Caldwell-Pope, Lakers still trying to find a way to sign Rondo. Lakers have a $4.3M exception to use.
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Kentavious Caldwell-Pope projected $18M salary will fit into the Lakers remaining room. The Lakers had $16.5M in...
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I'm told the Lakers have not decided yet on if Rajon Rondo fits into their plans.
https://twitter.com/MarkG_Medina/status/885001634220322816
Doing whatever they can to prevent us from getting that pick!
And $16-18 mil a year is a lot to pay for Jrue Holiday's backup isn't it? Unless they're planning on playing Holiday and Jackson together. They don't really have a starting SG.Restricted free agent Ron Baker's deal to stay with the Knicks: Two-years, $8.9M, including a player option, league sources tell ESPN.
https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/884847253436997632
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Westbrook extension would be the largest in NBA history topping the most recent James Harden extension.
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Sources: Pistons and Pelicans have discussed a potential trade of Reggie Jackson for E'Twaun Moore and Alexis Ajinca. Full story coming soon
https://twitter.com/MikeAScotto/status/884909057756217347
Wait...what?!?!?
Reggie Jackson for Etwaun Moore and Ajinca? Wow! Pistons trying to give Reggie Jax away.
Yes they are. But I think it'd be a worse deal for the Pelicans. It'd lock their team that no one shows up for into the luxury tax next year if they retain Cousins with the max. They'd be so far over that even successfully dumping Asik might not be enough.
And $16-18 mil a year is a lot to pay for Jrue Holiday's backup isn't it? Unless they're planning on playing Holiday and Jackson together. They don't really have a starting SG.Restricted free agent Ron Baker's deal to stay with the Knicks: Two-years, $8.9M, including a player option, league sources tell ESPN.
https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/884847253436997632
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Westbrook extension would be the largest in NBA history topping the most recent James Harden extension.
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Sources: Pistons and Pelicans have discussed a potential trade of Reggie Jackson for E'Twaun Moore and Alexis Ajinca. Full story coming soon
https://twitter.com/MikeAScotto/status/884909057756217347
Wait...what?!?!?
Reggie Jackson for Etwaun Moore and Ajinca? Wow! Pistons trying to give Reggie Jax away.
Yes they are. But I think it'd be a worse deal for the Pelicans. It'd lock their team that no one shows up for into the luxury tax next year if they retain Cousins with the max. They'd be so far over that even successfully dumping Asik might not be enough.
And then Detroit can trade Drummond for him? That Van Gundy is one sly fox.And $16-18 mil a year is a lot to pay for Jrue Holiday's backup isn't it? Unless they're planning on playing Holiday and Jackson together. They don't really have a starting SG.Restricted free agent Ron Baker's deal to stay with the Knicks: Two-years, $8.9M, including a player option, league sources tell ESPN.
https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/884847253436997632
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Westbrook extension would be the largest in NBA history topping the most recent James Harden extension.
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Sources: Pistons and Pelicans have discussed a potential trade of Reggie Jackson for E'Twaun Moore and Alexis Ajinca. Full story coming soon
https://twitter.com/MikeAScotto/status/884909057756217347
Wait...what?!?!?
Reggie Jackson for Etwaun Moore and Ajinca? Wow! Pistons trying to give Reggie Jax away.
Yes they are. But I think it'd be a worse deal for the Pelicans. It'd lock their team that no one shows up for into the luxury tax next year if they retain Cousins with the max. They'd be so far over that even successfully dumping Asik might not be enough.
I'd assume they'd play them together, creating a backcourt that would chase AD away.
So 3 more decent players go to the West: KCP, R.Jackson and Sefalosha.We are lucky to have 15 players!
So 3 more decent players go to the West: KCP, R.Jackson and Sefalosha.
So 3 more decent players go to the West: KCP, R.Jackson and Sefalosha.
R. Jackson as in Reggie Jackson?
So 3 more decent players go to the West: KCP, R.Jackson and Sefalosha.
R. Jackson as in Reggie Jackson?
Reggie Jackson hasn't been good since OKC. He never fit in Motor City.
Free agent Jonas Jerebko has agreed to a two-year, $8.2M deal with Utah, league source tells ESPN.
QuoteFree agent Jonas Jerebko has agreed to a two-year, $8.2M deal with Utah, league source tells ESPN.
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Free agent Ersan Ilyasova has agreed to a one-year, $6M deal with the Atlanta Hawks, league sources tell The Vertical.
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Euroleague star center Ekpe Udoh has agreed to a two-year, $6.5M deal with the Utah Jazz, league sources tell The Vertical.
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So, somewhere in the 36 pages of this thread, this may have been mentioned already, but Festus Ezeli was waived on 6/30 by Portland. Do to his injury history, bet we might be able to get him on the cheap. Thoughts?
QuoteFree agent Ersan Ilyasova has agreed to a one-year, $6M deal with the Atlanta Hawks, league sources tell The Vertical.
https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/885350594113814528
QuoteFree agent Ersan Ilyasova has agreed to a one-year, $6M deal with the Atlanta Hawks, league sources tell The Vertical.
https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/885350594113814528
I am very confused what Atlanta's goal is right now. They are rebuilding but now have signed Illasova and Dedmon... I guess dedmon is youngish.. but he isn't a big upside.
QuoteFree agent Ersan Ilyasova has agreed to a one-year, $6M deal with the Atlanta Hawks, league sources tell The Vertical.
https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/885350594113814528
I am very confused what Atlanta's goal is right now. They are rebuilding but now have signed Illasova and Dedmon... I guess dedmon is youngish.. but he isn't a big upside.
Fill out the roster & suck.
http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/19999069/new-orleans-pelicans-meet-free-agent-rajon-rondo Rondo gaining steam with pelicansRondo to the Pels is perfect.
its also perfect if it doesn't work out and the team discombobulated. AD has to spend a whole season with 2 headcases that teams can't get rid of fast enough off their teams. Both rondo and cousins were one time traded for bags of potato chips cuz of their head case issueshttp://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/19999069/new-orleans-pelicans-meet-free-agent-rajon-rondo Rondo gaining steam with pelicansRondo to the Pels is perfect.
Been thinking about our old friend and where he may land.
Thought the NO would be a great fit.
Rondo setting em up
AD throwing em down
its also perfect if it doesn't work out and the team discombobulated. AD has to spend a whole season with 2 headcases that teams can't get rid of fast enough off their teams. Both rondo and cousins were one time traded for bags of potato chips cuz of their head case issueshttp://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/19999069/new-orleans-pelicans-meet-free-agent-rajon-rondo Rondo gaining steam with pelicansRondo to the Pels is perfect.
Been thinking about our old friend and where he may land.
Thought the NO would be a great fit.
Rondo setting em up
AD throwing em down
AD will want out of New Orleans so fast
http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/19999069/new-orleans-pelicans-meet-free-agent-rajon-rondo Rondo gaining steam with pelicans
http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/19999069/new-orleans-pelicans-meet-free-agent-rajon-rondo Rondo gaining steam with pelicans
Makes sense. Could make them good enough that AD never demands trade. How did Rondo and Cousins get along in SAC?
its also perfect if it doesn't work out and the team discombobulated. AD has to spend a whole season with 2 headcases that teams can't get rid of fast enough off their teams. Both rondo and cousins were one time traded for bags of potato chips cuz of their head case issueshttp://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/19999069/new-orleans-pelicans-meet-free-agent-rajon-rondo Rondo gaining steam with pelicansRondo to the Pels is perfect.
Been thinking about our old friend and where he may land.
Thought the NO would be a great fit.
Rondo setting em up
AD throwing em down
AD will want out of New Orleans so fast
So, somewhere in the 36 pages of this thread, this may have been mentioned already, but Festus Ezeli was waived on 6/30 by Portland. Do to his injury history, bet we might be able to get him on the cheap. Thoughts?
So, somewhere in the 36 pages of this thread, this may have been mentioned already, but Festus Ezeli was waived on 6/30 by Portland. Do to his injury history, bet we might be able to get him on the cheap. Thoughts?
I've never understood the fascination with this dude. If we wanted a big guy who offers almost nothing aside from blocking shots we should have signed Amida Brimeh and been done with it.
So, somewhere in the 36 pages of this thread, this may have been mentioned already, but Festus Ezeli was waived on 6/30 by Portland. Do to his injury history, bet we might be able to get him on the cheap. Thoughts?
I've never understood the fascination with this dude. If we wanted a big guy who offers almost nothing aside from blocking shots we should have signed Amida Brimeh and been done with it.
You should look at him a little closer. He's a guy who has averaged 14.6/9.9 during his career, only averaging 28.8 mpg. During his high of 34.2 mpg, he was a 19.3/10.9 guy. BTW, nothing aside from blocks? He averages .9 per game.
This guy can play and is only 26.
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So, somewhere in the 36 pages of this thread, this may have been mentioned already, but Festus Ezeli was waived on 6/30 by Portland. Do to his injury history, bet we might be able to get him on the cheap. Thoughts?
I've never understood the fascination with this dude. If we wanted a big guy who offers almost nothing aside from blocking shots we should have signed Amida Brimeh and been done with it.
You should look at him a little closer. He's a guy who has averaged 14.6/9.9 during his career, only averaging 28.8 mpg. During his high of 34.2 mpg, he was a 19.3/10.9 guy. BTW, nothing aside from blocks? He averages .9 per game.
This guy can play and is only 26.
Getting Nikola Vucevic for the minimum would be something, though :PSo, somewhere in the 36 pages of this thread, this may have been mentioned already, but Festus Ezeli was waived on 6/30 by Portland. Do to his injury history, bet we might be able to get him on the cheap. Thoughts?
I've never understood the fascination with this dude. If we wanted a big guy who offers almost nothing aside from blocking shots we should have signed Amida Brimeh and been done with it.
You should look at him a little closer. He's a guy who has averaged 14.6/9.9 during his career, only averaging 28.8 mpg. During his high of 34.2 mpg, he was a 19.3/10.9 guy. BTW, nothing aside from blocks? He averages .9 per game.
This guy can play and is only 26.
You're referring to Nikola Vucevic, not Ezeli.
QuoteLeague sources tell @ExpressNews news Simmons' with #Magic deal is 3-year deal $20 million all guaranteed. #Spurs
https://twitter.com/JabariJYoung/status/885958178894209024
Free agent Rajon Rondo has reached agreement on a one-year deal with the New Orleans Pelicans, league sources tell The Vertical.
Free agent Rajon Rondo has reached agreement on a one-year deal with the New Orleans Pelicans, league sources tell The Vertical.
QuoteLeague sources tell @ExpressNews news Simmons' with #Magic deal is 3-year deal $20 million all guaranteed. #Spurs
https://twitter.com/JabariJYoung/status/885958178894209024
Because what Orlando really needed is another poor shooter....
Free agent Rajon Rondo has reached agreement on a one-year deal with the New Orleans Pelicans, league sources tell The Vertical.
TP. Will be interesting to see how the Twin Towers of the Pelicans function together.
Rondo is certainly someone they need (guy who can pass the ball to them well lol).
As long as they keep their attitudes in check for the most part, Pels could be a 6-8 seed at best (West just got too stacked now).
Not just any twin towers. The best center and best PF in the game. I'm confident Rondo could make it work but have doubts about Gentry doing so.Free agent Rajon Rondo has reached agreement on a one-year deal with the New Orleans Pelicans, league sources tell The Vertical.
He might make the twin towers thing work.
Holiday to SG?
Free agent Rajon Rondo has reached agreement on a one-year deal with the New Orleans Pelicans, league sources tell The Vertical.
TP. Will be interesting to see how the Twin Towers of the Pelicans function together.
Rondo is certainly someone they need (guy who can pass the ball to them well lol).
As long as they keep their attitudes in check for the most part, Pels could be a 6-8 seed at best (West just got too stacked now).
Hoping it works out. Always going to root for Rondo and the NBA is a better league if that Pelicans team is competitive.
That being said if they flop and are forced to move on from Anthony Davis for a boatload of picks and young assets that would be just fine too.
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Why would Melo want to go to Portland?
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Makes sense for the Blazers. They have all sorts of contracts they'd love to move, and could use a quantity for quality trade. Melo for Harkless, Leonard, Aminu, and Vonleh. Helps fill out the Knicks roster for the next two seasons they were going to be stuck with an unhappy but largely untradable Carmelo taking an equivalent amount of salary. The Knicks can't be quite bad enough to tank, and have too much salary committed over the next three seasons to do it properly anyway, so they might as well get some rotation players and see if they can't steal a playoff berth in an East with few teams trying to compete.
If Melo would be willing to go to Portland, it could actually be the type of trade to help both teams.
Why would Melo want to go to Portland?
Because it's about the only competitive team who can take on his bloated contract.
But his NTC means he is in control of where he goes. I don't see why he would want to leave NYC for Portland. It's not like they could win a championship.Why would Melo want to go to Portland?
Because it's about the only competitive team who can take on his bloated contract.
But his NTC means he is in control of where he goes. I don't see why he would want to leave NYC for Portland. It's not like they could win a championship.Why would Melo want to go to Portland?
Because it's about the only competitive team who can take on his bloated contract.
I'm not sure what he thinks, but I think a troika of Harden/Paul/Melo with a solid supporting cast, is pretty good. To me, the bigger issue with Houston is how will D'Antoni run an up-tempo offense with those guys.But his NTC means he is in control of where he goes. I don't see why he would want to leave NYC for Portland. It's not like they could win a championship.Why would Melo want to go to Portland?
Because it's about the only competitive team who can take on his bloated contract.
Does he think Houston can win a championship?
But his NTC means he is in control of where he goes. I don't see why he would want to leave NYC for Portland. It's not like they could win a championship.Why would Melo want to go to Portland?
Because it's about the only competitive team who can take on his bloated contract.
Got ya' now. TP.But his NTC means he is in control of where he goes. I don't see why he would want to leave NYC for Portland. It's not like they could win a championship.Why would Melo want to go to Portland?
Because it's about the only competitive team who can take on his bloated contract.
I get that. My point is if Melo wants to play for a competitor, Portland could be pretty much the only option. Houston can only do it if they find someone to take Ryan Anderson, and no one seems interested. Melo's other option is giving up about $50 million or so to take a buyout -- I can't see the Knicks being willing to pay him most his contract to play somewhere else.
I'm not saying that I think Melo will be willing -- he seems to want to stay in NY, period. There just aren't many, if any, other options for him to go to. Portland let's him get paid $60 million, compete, and choose to finish out his career wherever he wants for decent money, assuming he doesn't look like a waste of space out there.
I'm not sure what he thinks, but I think a troika of Harden/Paul/Melo with a solid supporting cast, is pretty good. To me, the bigger issue with Houston is how will D'Antoni run an up-tempo offense with those guys.But his NTC means he is in control of where he goes. I don't see why he would want to leave NYC for Portland. It's not like they could win a championship.Why would Melo want to go to Portland?
Because it's about the only competitive team who can take on his bloated contract.
Does he think Houston can win a championship?
Why would Melo want to go to Portland?
Because it's about the only competitive team who can take on his bloated contract.
When you say they can take it on you mean they have outgoing salaries that can make it work right? Doesn't Portland have the highest payroll in the NBA or has that changed with recent signings/contract extensions?
Lillard, McCollum, Nurkic, and Melo would be as entertaining as Harden, CP3, and Melo. And probably more competitive.
Don't think he'd waive his NTC though since one of his banana boat buddies aren't there.
the rockets have 2 ball pounders who aren't effective off the ball. Harden is going to look like okc harden when it's all said and doneLillard, McCollum, Nurkic, and Melo would be as entertaining as Harden, CP3, and Melo. And probably more competitive.
Don't think he'd waive his NTC though since one of his banana boat buddies aren't there.
What?! The Rockets have two top-7 players. The Blazers...don't.
Lillard, McCollum, Nurkic, and Melo would be as entertaining as Harden, CP3, and Melo. And probably more competitive.
Don't think he'd waive his NTC though since one of his banana boat buddies aren't there.
What?! The Rockets have two top-7 players. The Blazers...don't.
Lillard, McCollum, Nurkic, and Melo would be as entertaining as Harden, CP3, and Melo. And probably more competitive.
Don't think he'd waive his NTC though since one of his banana boat buddies aren't there.
What?! The Rockets have two top-7 players. The Blazers...don't.
Lillard, McCollum, Nurkic, and Melo would be as entertaining as Harden, CP3, and Melo. And probably more competitive.
Don't think he'd waive his NTC though since one of his banana boat buddies aren't there.
What?! The Rockets have two top-7 players. The Blazers...don't.
Well we could discuss if CP3 is a top 7 player, but I get your point. However the problem is they both serve essentially the same position on the court. Harden became what he is by having the ball in his hands as much as possible. CP3 has never played off the ball, so there is going to be a problem here
Lillard, McCollum, Nurkic, and Melo would be as entertaining as Harden, CP3, and Melo. And probably more competitive.
Don't think he'd waive his NTC though since one of his banana boat buddies aren't there.
What?! The Rockets have two top-7 players. The Blazers...don't.
I'm not sold on the fit of Harden and CP3. I think there'll definitely be an adjustment period, specifically for CP3. He's used to holding the ball in his hands a lot in a half court setting. We already know Lillard and McCollum can play together - particularly moving off the ball and shooting at a high clip. Add in Nurkic who's a good post presence who's shown he can take advantage when he's given the ball in the post.
I just think Portland's offense is a more natural fit. I can see Melo's role in Portland.
Lillard, McCollum, Nurkic, and Melo would be as entertaining as Harden, CP3, and Melo. And probably more competitive.
Don't think he'd waive his NTC though since one of his banana boat buddies aren't there.
What?! The Rockets have two top-7 players. The Blazers...don't.
Well we could discuss if CP3 is a top 7 player, but I get your point. However the problem is they both serve essentially the same position on the court. Harden became what he is by having the ball in his hands as much as possible. CP3 has never played off the ball, so there is going to be a problem here
Lillard, McCollum, Nurkic, and Melo would be as entertaining as Harden, CP3, and Melo. And probably more competitive.
Don't think he'd waive his NTC though since one of his banana boat buddies aren't there.
What?! The Rockets have two top-7 players. The Blazers...don't.
I'm not sold on the fit of Harden and CP3. I think there'll definitely be an adjustment period, specifically for CP3. He's used to holding the ball in his hands a lot in a half court setting. We already know Lillard and McCollum can play together - particularly moving off the ball and shooting at a high clip. Add in Nurkic who's a good post presence who's shown he can take advantage when he's given the ball in the post.
I just think Portland's offense is a more natural fit. I can see Melo's role in Portland.
I'm not entirely sold on the CP-Harden fit either, but let's not pretend Lillard-McCollum is some great fit. They work together, but they're both really point guards. As for shooting ability, you do realize Paul is a vastly superior shooter to Lillard, right? I think many fail to realize that Paul truly is one of the league's premier shooters. I don't think Melo's a particularly good fit on either team, because both have two ball-dominant players who are better than Melo, but I'd hesitate to say Melo's a better fit with the lesser talents whom he's also less likely to defer to.
Free agent Luc Mbah a Moute has reached an agreement with the Houston Rockets, league sources tell ESPN.
Lillard, McCollum, Nurkic, and Melo would be as entertaining as Harden, CP3, and Melo. And probably more competitive.
Don't think he'd waive his NTC though since one of his banana boat buddies aren't there.
What?! The Rockets have two top-7 players. The Blazers...don't.
I'm not sold on the fit of Harden and CP3. I think there'll definitely be an adjustment period, specifically for CP3. He's used to holding the ball in his hands a lot in a half court setting. We already know Lillard and McCollum can play together - particularly moving off the ball and shooting at a high clip. Add in Nurkic who's a good post presence who's shown he can take advantage when he's given the ball in the post.
I just think Portland's offense is a more natural fit. I can see Melo's role in Portland.
I'm not entirely sold on the CP-Harden fit either, but let's not pretend Lillard-McCollum is some great fit. They work together, but they're both really point guards. As for shooting ability, you do realize Paul is a vastly superior shooter to Lillard, right? I think many fail to realize that Paul truly is one of the league's premier shooters. I don't think Melo's a particularly good fit on either team, because both have two ball-dominant players who are better than Melo, but I'd hesitate to say Melo's a better fit with the lesser talents whom he's also less likely to defer to.
I'm not sure where you're getting this notion that Paul is a vastly better shooter than Lillard. They're both very good to elite-level shooters, and they're both literally at 37% on the dot for their careers. If anything, the case should be made for Lillard being the better shooter, because he's averaging the same percentage at over twice the attempts per game as Paul. Furthermore, the difficulty of Lillard's shots are generally much higher than Paul's shots. Lillard shoots primarily off the dribble from beyond the arc, where Paul (at least in my experience) shoots from long distance just as much off the pass as off the dribble.
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Free agent Luc Mbah a Moute has reached an agreement with the Houston Rockets, league sources tell ESPN.
That's a good fit for them. I like it.
Are there any difference makers left that the Nets could sign, or are they basically done?I think derrick rose is available but doubt nets have much interest
Mike
Lillard, McCollum, Nurkic, and Melo would be as entertaining as Harden, CP3, and Melo. And probably more competitive.
Don't think he'd waive his NTC though since one of his banana boat buddies aren't there.
What?! The Rockets have two top-7 players. The Blazers...don't.
I'm not sold on the fit of Harden and CP3. I think there'll definitely be an adjustment period, specifically for CP3. He's used to holding the ball in his hands a lot in a half court setting. We already know Lillard and McCollum can play together - particularly moving off the ball and shooting at a high clip. Add in Nurkic who's a good post presence who's shown he can take advantage when he's given the ball in the post.
I just think Portland's offense is a more natural fit. I can see Melo's role in Portland.
I'm not entirely sold on the CP-Harden fit either, but let's not pretend Lillard-McCollum is some great fit. They work together, but they're both really point guards. As for shooting ability, you do realize Paul is a vastly superior shooter to Lillard, right? I think many fail to realize that Paul truly is one of the league's premier shooters. I don't think Melo's a particularly good fit on either team, because both have two ball-dominant players who are better than Melo, but I'd hesitate to say Melo's a better fit with the lesser talents whom he's also less likely to defer to.
I'm not sure where you're getting this notion that Paul is a vastly better shooter than Lillard. They're both very good to elite-level shooters, and they're both literally at 37% on the dot for their careers. If anything, the case should be made for Lillard being the better shooter, because he's averaging the same percentage at over twice the attempts per game as Paul. Furthermore, the difficulty of Lillard's shots are generally much higher than Paul's shots. Lillard shoots primarily off the dribble from beyond the arc, where Paul (at least in my experience) shoots from long distance just as much off the pass as off the dribble.
https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/p/paulch01.html
https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/l/lillada01.html
I think it's somewhat misleading to take career numbers for Paul, because he's really elevated himself as a shooter the last ~3 years, performing above his previous career marks in both 3P% and TS%. If we were to split Paul's career into two parts (first 9 seasons, most recent 3), you see an increase in 3P% from 35.7% to 39.3% and TS% from 57.5% to 59.3%. He's improved a lot.
Are there any difference makers left that the Nets could sign, or are they basically done?
Mike
Are there any difference makers left that the Nets could sign, or are they basically done?
Mike
They're done. Saving room for a salary dump trade.
The Nets want to get a top pick in 2019, so don't look for them to make moves this year that might prevent that.
Are there any difference makers left that the Nets could sign, or are they basically done?
Mike
They're done. Saving room for a salary dump trade.
The Nets want to get a top pick in 2019, so don't look for them to make moves this year that might prevent that.
I'm good with that, as long as they earn a top pick in 2018, as well.
Mike
Free agent Luc Mbah a Moute has reached an agreement with the Houston Rockets, league sources tell ESPN.
That's a good fit for them. I like it.
Indeed, another great pickup. Morey's (unsurprisingly) killing it.
Idk why anyone would buy the rockets ... Cp3 and Harden do not work well. And if Melo comes, you now have cp3 and harden standing around watching Melo brick shots. This team got worse and more expensive to run
Idk why anyone would buy the rockets ... Cp3 and Harden do not work well. And if Melo comes, you now have cp3 and harden standing around watching Melo brick shots. This team got worse and more expensive to run
Do you have any evidence of that, or is it just conjecture? Until we see them play, we can't tell if they fit together or not. You may not think that they'll fit, but until we actually see ithem it's just your opinion, not fact.
Personally, I'd take the team with 2 top 15 players over the team with just one
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https://twitter.com/R0BaTO/status/887161657599852544
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He also has no interest in giving up the $54 million in salary they owe him, and I somehow doubt he's give up much of his $8 million trade kicker either. If he really wanted to go to Houston, I'm sure the Knicks would be happy to release him from his contract. But he wants to have his $60 million cake and eat it too.
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https://twitter.com/R0BaTO/status/887161657599852544
He also has no interest in giving up the $54 million in salary they owe him, and I somehow doubt he's give up much of his $8 million trade kicker either. If he really wanted to go to Houston, I'm sure the Knicks would be happy to release him from his contract. But he wants to have his $60 million cake and eat it too.
He allegedly asked for a buyout before the draft and the Knicks said no. Buyouts always mean money's being left on the table by the player. So he was rather recently willing to give up money to get out, but they weren't and claimed they'd explore trades for him. During the press conference yesterday, Mills and Perry both said buying him out wasn't an option for them.
I don't see how Melo did anything in this situation. Even when Phil was publicly blasting him, he handled it well. This is the Knicks realizing Phil destroyed a player's trade value and the offers they're getting are reflecting that.
Paul Pierce to sign with ESPN today, per Jackie MacMullenI had hoped they'd keep him until preseason and start him in Game 1. :-\
Woj reports Spurs are on the verge of resigning Ginobili. A mild surprise as many thought he'd retire but it looks like he's down for one more run. Good for him, he still was able to make some nice plays in the playoffs.
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https://twitter.com/R0BaTO/status/887161657599852544
He also has no interest in giving up the $54 million in salary they owe him, and I somehow doubt he's give up much of his $8 million trade kicker either. If he really wanted to go to Houston, I'm sure the Knicks would be happy to release him from his contract. But he wants to have his $60 million cake and eat it too.
He allegedly asked for a buyout before the draft and the Knicks said no. Buyouts always mean money's being left on the table by the player. So he was rather recently willing to give up money to get out, but they weren't and claimed they'd explore trades for him. During the press conference yesterday, Mills and Perry both said buying him out wasn't an option for them.
I don't see how Melo did anything in this situation. Even when Phil was publicly blasting him, he handled it well. This is the Knicks realizing Phil destroyed a player's trade value and the offers they're getting are reflecting that.
Do you know how much he was willing to give up in a buyout? Because none of the reports I heard indicated he was willing to give up anywhere near $50 million. It's one thing to ask for a release and give up a couple of million. It's another to do the same and give up $50 million.
As Perry starts to shape the front office and impact policy, another realization has washed over the organization: Months of organizational harping on Anthony, driven largely by deposed president of basketball operations Jackson, has dramatically lowered Anthony's trade value. Mills and Perry are evaluating whether it's worth allowing time for Anthony's standing around the NBA to be rebuilt, as opposed to trading him at an all-time low, league sources said.http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/20075037/carmelo-anthony-counting-new-york-knicks-trading-houston-rockets
Yeah like westbrook, harden, and KD? oh wait they won 0 championships and made the finals like once and got destroyed. Sorry but having 3 ball stompers doesn't work. Cp3 and harden both LEAD the league in ball possession timeIdk why anyone would buy the rockets ... Cp3 and Harden do not work well. And if Melo comes, you now have cp3 and harden standing around watching Melo brick shots. This team got worse and more expensive to run
Do you have any evidence of that, or is it just conjecture? Until we see them play, we can't tell if they fit together or not. You may not think that they'll fit, but until we actually see ithem it's just your opinion, not fact.
Personally, I'd take the team with 2 top 15 players over the team with just one
Great players usually find a way to coexist. People were saying the same thing about the Heat with their old big 3. It makes it easier on them sharing the load.
Also see Melo in the Olympics. He can fit in with other great players. Lastly both Melo and and Paul are at an age where it's better for them to take more of a backseat.
Sources: Free agent Rajon Rondo has signed his one-year deal with New Orleans for $3.3M.
https://mobile.twitter.com/basketballtalk/status/887484575001325568
doc on paul s departure
https://mobile.twitter.com/basketballtalk/status/887484575001325568
doc on paul s departure
Ouch! Doc with an uncharacteristic direct shot at CP3! He must be very bitter about Paul walking out on them.
https://mobile.twitter.com/basketballtalk/status/887484575001325568
doc on paul s departure
Ouch! Doc with an uncharacteristic direct shot at CP3! He must be very bitter about Paul walking out on them.
Doc is the one who developed Rondo into a ball dominant PG. He forced his way to LA, where CP3 was already established. It seems like Doc is just deflecting blame here.
https://mobile.twitter.com/basketballtalk/status/887484575001325568
doc on paul s departure
Ouch! Doc with an uncharacteristic direct shot at CP3! He must be very bitter about Paul walking out on them.
Doc is the one who developed Rondo into a ball dominant PG. He forced his way to LA, where CP3 was already established. It seems like Doc is just deflecting blame here.
Exactly. I'm surprised, because Doc is usually the most politically correct coach or GM in the league.
We’ll have ball movement, you know. That’s one of the things, for the most part, that I’ve always preached. With Chris’ skill, you wanted to take advantage of what he could do, and he was a guy that needed the ball to make plays. And he did it so well, you kind of changed to do that.
http://twitter.com/Tom_NBA/status/888056611729702913
Rose close to signing a one year deal with the Cavs.
Not sure how I feel about this, since Rose is surely a better backup than Calderon, but talk about a fall from grace, huh? In 5-6 years he's going to go from league MVP to what amounts to be a bet minimum guy. Crazy how much injuries have affected his career.
http://twitter.com/Tom_NBA/status/888056611729702913
Rose close to signing a one year deal with the Cavs.
Not sure how I feel about this, since Rose is surely a better backup than Calderon, but talk about a fall from grace, huh? In 5-6 years he's going to go from league MVP to what amounts to be a bet minimum guy. Crazy how much injuries have affected his career.
Terrible example in using that OKC team. Westbrook and Harden have both made immense strides since then, and all 3 of those guys are good passers. To call them 'ball stompers' is just ridiculous. The fact is that you have no evidence that Houston won't work, you just don't want it to.Yeah like westbrook, harden, and KD? oh wait they won 0 championships and made the finals like once and got destroyed. Sorry but having 3 ball stompers doesn't work. Cp3 and harden both LEAD the league in ball possession timeIdk why anyone would buy the rockets ... Cp3 and Harden do not work well. And if Melo comes, you now have cp3 and harden standing around watching Melo brick shots. This team got worse and more expensive to run
Do you have any evidence of that, or is it just conjecture? Until we see them play, we can't tell if they fit together or not. You may not think that they'll fit, but until we actually see ithem it's just your opinion, not fact.
Personally, I'd take the team with 2 top 15 players over the team with just one
Great players usually find a way to coexist. People were saying the same thing about the Heat with their old big 3. It makes it easier on them sharing the load.
Also see Melo in the Olympics. He can fit in with other great players. Lastly both Melo and and Paul are at an age where it's better for them to take more of a backseat.
So, somewhere in the 36 pages of this thread, this may have been mentioned already, but Festus Ezeli was waived on 6/30 by Portland. Do to his injury history, bet we might be able to get him on the cheap. Thoughts?
I've never understood the fascination with this dude. If we wanted a big guy who offers almost nothing aside from blocking shots we should have signed Amida Brimeh and been done with it.
You should look at him a little closer. He's a guy who has averaged 14.6/9.9 during his career, only averaging 28.8 mpg. During his high of 34.2 mpg, he was a 19.3/10.9 guy. BTW, nothing aside from blocks? He averages .9 per game.
This guy can play and is only 26.
You're referring to Nikola Vucevic, not Ezeli.
Yeah like westbrook, harden, and KD? oh wait they won 0 championships and made the finals like once and got destroyed. Sorry but having 3 ball stompers doesn't work. Cp3 and harden both LEAD the league in ball possession timeIdk why anyone would buy the rockets ... Cp3 and Harden do not work well. And if Melo comes, you now have cp3 and harden standing around watching Melo brick shots. This team got worse and more expensive to run
Do you have any evidence of that, or is it just conjecture? Until we see them play, we can't tell if they fit together or not. You may not think that they'll fit, but until we actually see ithem it's just your opinion, not fact.
Personally, I'd take the team with 2 top 15 players over the team with just one
Great players usually find a way to coexist. People were saying the same thing about the Heat with their old big 3. It makes it easier on them sharing the load.
Also see Melo in the Olympics. He can fit in with other great players. Lastly both Melo and and Paul are at an age where it's better for them to take more of a backseat.
http://twitter.com/JordanHeckFF/status/888069057488068608
Uh, so some are suggesting that they want Rose to potentially start next to Kyrie. I mean, not that Smith is some perfect fit there at the 2, but could Rose be any worse of a fit at the 2 between Kyrie and Lebron? Non-shooter, non-defender, ball-dominant, constantly injured, etc.
I wonder if this means they're trying to offload Smith's contract for some luxury tax relief? That'd be the only way replacing Smith with Rose makes any sense to me.
I think Cleveland could play Kyrie off the ball when they are both on the court. It might reduce the wear and tear on Kyrie not having to handle the ball as much. Rose will be on the court with the second unit too, no matter how Cleveland tries to sell this in the near term.
He already does that a fair amount as James consistently brings the ball up the court.I think Cleveland could play Kyrie off the ball when they are both on the court. It might reduce the wear and tear on Kyrie not having to handle the ball as much. Rose will be on the court with the second unit too, no matter how Cleveland tries to sell this in the near term.
Why would you have the best ball handler in the entire NBA play off the ball?
I think Cleveland could play Kyrie off the ball when they are both on the court. It might reduce the wear and tear on Kyrie not having to handle the ball as much. Rose will be on the court with the second unit too, no matter how Cleveland tries to sell this in the near term.
Why would you have the best ball handler in the entire NBA play off the ball?
Oh yeah, adding Rose should really help CLE with their Golden State problem.....
He already does that a fair amount as James consistently brings the ball up the court.I think Cleveland could play Kyrie off the ball when they are both on the court. It might reduce the wear and tear on Kyrie not having to handle the ball as much. Rose will be on the court with the second unit too, no matter how Cleveland tries to sell this in the near term.
Why would you have the best ball handler in the entire NBA play off the ball?
Because being a good dribbler has nothing to do with being a good passer, running plays, and creating for teammates.I think Cleveland could play Kyrie off the ball when they are both on the court. It might reduce the wear and tear on Kyrie not having to handle the ball as much. Rose will be on the court with the second unit too, no matter how Cleveland tries to sell this in the near term.
Why would you have the best ball handler in the entire NBA play off the ball?
Not at all, I was merely pointing out that Irving doesn't have the ball in his hand anywhere close to 100% of the time right now because James has it in his so much. I don't really like Rose as the starting SG. I think it is a bad idea. I do however like Rose as the back-up PG that could play with Irving occasionally (so Rose gets like 25 ish minutes a night). When Rose and Irving are on the floor together, I think it makes more sense for Irving to have the ball then Rose, unless Rose is driving to the hole and kicking it out to Irving as Rose is actually quite good going to the glass and drawing contact. Rose is pretty terrible at setting up an offense, though frankly Irving is subpar in that as well (James is one of the best ever at doing that, which is why so much of the offense runs through James and it is also why the Cavs are downright terrible when James is on the bench).He already does that a fair amount as James consistently brings the ball up the court.I think Cleveland could play Kyrie off the ball when they are both on the court. It might reduce the wear and tear on Kyrie not having to handle the ball as much. Rose will be on the court with the second unit too, no matter how Cleveland tries to sell this in the near term.
Why would you have the best ball handler in the entire NBA play off the ball?
Moranis you really think they should just have him play off the ball 100%? I feel like the Cavs could sign Ilgauskas as a backup big and you would support the move. They badly needed defensive minded players to not get blown off the floor by Golden State and they have signed Caulderon and Jeff Green and now possibly Rose. How does that help?
Because being a good dribbler has nothing to do with being a good passer, running plays, and creating for teammates.I think Cleveland could play Kyrie off the ball when they are both on the court. It might reduce the wear and tear on Kyrie not having to handle the ball as much. Rose will be on the court with the second unit too, no matter how Cleveland tries to sell this in the near term.
Why would you have the best ball handler in the entire NBA play off the ball?
Because being a good dribbler has nothing to do with being a good passer, running plays, and creating for teammates.I think Cleveland could play Kyrie off the ball when they are both on the court. It might reduce the wear and tear on Kyrie not having to handle the ball as much. Rose will be on the court with the second unit too, no matter how Cleveland tries to sell this in the near term.
Why would you have the best ball handler in the entire NBA play off the ball?
Because being a good dribbler has nothing to do with being a good passer, running plays, and creating for teammates.I think Cleveland could play Kyrie off the ball when they are both on the court. It might reduce the wear and tear on Kyrie not having to handle the ball as much. Rose will be on the court with the second unit too, no matter how Cleveland tries to sell this in the near term.
Why would you have the best ball handler in the entire NBA play off the ball?
It doesn't even really matter. Rose and Kyrie are both ball-dominant, me-first facilitators. Obvi LeBron is ball-dominant too (unless it's crunch time). No matter how you skin the cat, they'll be circling the drain again in next year's Eastern Conference Finals before getting eliminated by Boston.
Because being a good dribbler has nothing to do with being a good passer, running plays, and creating for teammates.I think Cleveland could play Kyrie off the ball when they are both on the court. It might reduce the wear and tear on Kyrie not having to handle the ball as much. Rose will be on the court with the second unit too, no matter how Cleveland tries to sell this in the near term.
Why would you have the best ball handler in the entire NBA play off the ball?
It doesn't even really matter. Rose and Kyrie are both ball-dominant, me-first facilitators. Obvi LeBron is ball-dominant too (unless it's crunch time). No matter how you skin the cat, they'll be circling the drain again in next year's Eastern Conference Finals before getting eliminated by Boston.
FTFY
Because being a good dribbler has nothing to do with being a good passer, running plays, and creating for teammates.I think Cleveland could play Kyrie off the ball when they are both on the court. It might reduce the wear and tear on Kyrie not having to handle the ball as much. Rose will be on the court with the second unit too, no matter how Cleveland tries to sell this in the near term.
Why would you have the best ball handler in the entire NBA play off the ball?
[Charania] Free agent Udonis Haslem has signed a one-year, minimum deal to return to the Miami Heat, league sources tell The Vertical.
https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/888104856124243968
Reportedly Noel back to Mavs
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https://twitter.com/KeithSmithNBA/status/888758896617299968
He's 37 and has played only 390 minutes over the last two seasons combined (in 53 games over the span). He doesn't have much left.[Charania] Free agent Udonis Haslem has signed a one-year, minimum deal to return to the Miami Heat, league sources tell The Vertical.
https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/888104856124243968
Haslem hasn't retired yet?
Derrick Rose has committed to sign with the Cleveland Cavaliers and completed his physical exam today, league sources tell The Vertical.
Derrick Rose has committed to sign with the Cleveland Cavaliers and completed his physical exam today, league sources tell The Vertical.
Sources: Free agent Pau Gasol's deal to return to Spurs: three years, $48M with a partial guarantee on final year
QuoteSources: Free agent Pau Gasol's deal to return to Spurs: three years, $48M with a partial guarantee on final year
https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/889601791817416704
I think they can get them, as long as Zaza doesn't act like a thug again (which might be asking for too much)QuoteSources: Free agent Pau Gasol's deal to return to Spurs: three years, $48M with a partial guarantee on final year
https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/889601791817416704
Spurs with Gasol and Ginobli back, and they added Rudy Gay. Those guys had GSW on the ropes until they lost Kwahi Leonard. They must believe they can take them if healthy.
A team paying big money to a gasol in 2017 isn't winning anythingThe Spurs aren't winning anything this year, but it's not because they are paying Gasol big money.
QuoteSources: Free agent Pau Gasol's deal to return to Spurs: three years, $48M with a partial guarantee on final year
https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/889601791817416704
QuoteSources: Free agent Pau Gasol's deal to return to Spurs: three years, $48M with a partial guarantee on final year
https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/889601791817416704
16 million for a 40 year old. Sheesh, has that ever happened before?
Portland has traded Allen Crabbe to Brooklyn for Andrew Nicholson, league sources tell ESPN.
Portland has traded Allen Crabbe to Brooklyn for Andrew Nicholson, league sources tell ESPN.
Probably helps them a little bit, but I don't feel like Crabbe really moves the needle at all... probably the first bad move from Marks given Crabbe's contract.
Portland has traded Allen Crabbe to Brooklyn for Andrew Nicholson, league sources tell ESPN.
Probably helps them a little bit, but I don't feel like Crabbe really moves the needle at all... probably the first bad move from Marks given Crabbe's contract.
Wow. Portland cleared a ton of luxury tax there.
Free agent Arron Afflalo has agreed to a one-year deal with the Orlando Magic, league source tells ESPN.
Free agent Arron Afflalo has agreed to a one-year deal with the Orlando Magic, league source tells ESPN.
But... why???
With Fournier, Payton, Mack, Augustin, and Jonathan Simmons, did they need another guard?
Free agent Arron Afflalo has agreed to a one-year deal with the Orlando Magic, league source tells ESPN.
But... why???
With Fournier, Payton, Mack, Augustin, and Jonathan Simmons, did they need another guard?
You need 15 players to fill out a roster. 6 guards seems reasonable. Whether or not that 6th guard should be Afflalo is a different matter, but 5-7 guards is fine.
Free agent Arron Afflalo has agreed to a one-year deal with the Orlando Magic, league source tells ESPN.
But... why???
With Fournier, Payton, Mack, Augustin, and Jonathan Simmons, did they need another guard?
You need 15 players to fill out a roster. 6 guards seems reasonable. Whether or not that 6th guard should be Afflalo is a different matter, but 5-7 guards is fine.
Should've been more clear. I don't get the fit. Reminds me a lot of their signing of Jeff Green last offseason.
Free agent Arron Afflalo has agreed to a one-year deal with the Orlando Magic, league source tells ESPN.
But... why???
With Fournier, Payton, Mack, Augustin, and Jonathan Simmons, did they need another guard?
You need 15 players to fill out a roster. 6 guards seems reasonable. Whether or not that 6th guard should be Afflalo is a different matter, but 5-7 guards is fine.
Should've been more clear. I don't get the fit. Reminds me a lot of their signing of Jeff Green last offseason.
http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/20155116/the-portland-trail-blazers-trading-guard-allen-crabbe-brooklyn-nets-sources-said
Andrew Nicholson to Blazers, who will most likely waive him using the stretch provision.
Crabbe actually waived his trade kicker. It appears he really wanted to be in Brooklyn as that is the team he signed with last off season before the Blazers matched.
Whatever does happen this year we've had it pretty good the last few seasons!http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/20155116/the-portland-trail-blazers-trading-guard-allen-crabbe-brooklyn-nets-sources-said
Andrew Nicholson to Blazers, who will most likely waive him using the stretch provision.
Crabbe actually waived his trade kicker. It appears he really wanted to be in Brooklyn as that is the team he signed with last off season before the Blazers matched.
that 2018 Nets pick looking worst as weeks go by
its too bad they couldn't just stink for one more season ;D
(https://i.gyazo.com/c180ebb1d48ecef91e99fb8b31d0ff75.png)The Magic had a pretty good record with Smith as GM. Could be good. I'm rooting for the King sot figure it out at some point (as long as it doesn't adversely affect that Lakers/Kings pick the C's own).
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Sindarius Thornwell (drafted at 48 this year) signed a three year contract with the Clips.Glad he got picked up. Performed really well all throughout the year, and impressed me.
http://www.thestate.com/sports/college/university-of-south-carolina/usc-mens-basketball/article163789533.html
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https://twitter.com/IanBegley/status/890630628667908097
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Ironic some guy named Cleveland is signed by the Warriors.
Mo Speights minimum deal in Orlando...
What a head scratcher! Turns down a player option for 2.11 and ends up getting slightly less, loses Bird rights, is playing for a non-competitor.
I know he has his limitations.. But Jeeesus.
Mo Speights minimum deal in Orlando...
What a head scratcher! Turns down a player option for 2.11 and ends up getting slightly less, loses Bird rights, is playing for a non-competitor.
I know he has his limitations.. But Jeeesus.
I'm not surprised. I said months ago the players who were going to get squeezed by the new CBA were the NBA's middle class. Max salaries went up, and max players were always going to get theirs. Rookie salaries and cap holds went up even more, also cutting into cap and tax space. Minimum salaries increased substantially as well, including for players on already signed minimum deals who had their salaries bumped. Meanwhile, the revenue split didn't change. The changes to draft picks and minimum salaries alone cost teams $3-5 million, and then if you were maxing a player, add another $3-4 million. Combine that with a cap and luxury tax that came in under projections, and the well of money available for the Speights of the world had completely dried up.
It'll be like that going forward, although in a couple of seasons you'll likely see a few more players get the newly increased non-taxpayer mid-level. Really it's a return to the early days of the last CBA, when rookie salaries and minimum deals took up a lot more space, except this time if there's a cap spike those salaries will jump at the same time, so the middle class really needs to get used to this. It will get a little better for the upper-tier of the middle class when the contracts signed last summer drop off the books, but only so much.
Depends on the skillset and team situation. Role players who are good 3pt shooters are going to get paid. There will be cases like Porter and Holiday where the team cap situation may dictate an overpay. Then you have KCP who had to settle for 1yr/17M and Noel who still isn't signed. The Sixers apparently gave Reddick 15 minutes to decide on their 1yr/23M offer. I'd expect teams teams to play more hardball. I'd expect more agents to start pushing their clients to accept team friendly extensions. For Smart, I'm not sure I'd even go 4 years/40M. Roberson turned down a 4yr/48M extension and had to settle for 3yr/30M. This is a perfect time to have a good GM who doesn't go by impulse or infatuation plus ownership that stays out of the way.Mo Speights minimum deal in Orlando...
What a head scratcher! Turns down a player option for 2.11 and ends up getting slightly less, loses Bird rights, is playing for a non-competitor.
I know he has his limitations.. But Jeeesus.
I'm not surprised. I said months ago the players who were going to get squeezed by the new CBA were the NBA's middle class. Max salaries went up, and max players were always going to get theirs. Rookie salaries and cap holds went up even more, also cutting into cap and tax space. Minimum salaries increased substantially as well, including for players on already signed minimum deals who had their salaries bumped. Meanwhile, the revenue split didn't change. The changes to draft picks and minimum salaries alone cost teams $3-5 million, and then if you were maxing a player, add another $3-4 million. Combine that with a cap and luxury tax that came in under projections, and the well of money available for the Speights of the world had completely dried up.
It'll be like that going forward, although in a couple of seasons you'll likely see a few more players get the newly increased non-taxpayer mid-level. Really it's a return to the early days of the last CBA, when rookie salaries and minimum deals took up a lot more space, except this time if there's a cap spike those salaries will jump at the same time, so the middle class really needs to get used to this. It will get a little better for the upper-tier of the middle class when the contracts signed last summer drop off the books, but only so much.
Thank you thank you thank you. Please keep repeating this.
Perhaps folks might back off the idea that our role players (like Smart) will get $15-20M per. Role players (essentially, non-stars) are lucky to ever see a nickel over the mid level on the open market once the cap spike issues are worked out.
Depends on the skillset and team situation. Role players who are good 3pt shooters are going to get paid. There will be cases like Porter and Holiday where the team cap situation may dictate an overpay. Then you have KCP who had to settle for 1yr/17M and Noel who still isn't signed. The Sixers apparently gave Reddick 15 minutes to decide on their 1yr/23M offer. I'd expect teams teams to play more hardball. I'd expect more agents to start pushing their clients to accept team friendly extensions. For Smart, I'm not sure I'd even go 4 years/40M. Roberson turned down a 4yr/48M extension and had to settle for 3yr/30M. This is a perfect time to have a good GM who doesn't go by impulse or infatuation plus ownership that stays out of the way.Mo Speights minimum deal in Orlando...
What a head scratcher! Turns down a player option for 2.11 and ends up getting slightly less, loses Bird rights, is playing for a non-competitor.
I know he has his limitations.. But Jeeesus.
I'm not surprised. I said months ago the players who were going to get squeezed by the new CBA were the NBA's middle class. Max salaries went up, and max players were always going to get theirs. Rookie salaries and cap holds went up even more, also cutting into cap and tax space. Minimum salaries increased substantially as well, including for players on already signed minimum deals who had their salaries bumped. Meanwhile, the revenue split didn't change. The changes to draft picks and minimum salaries alone cost teams $3-5 million, and then if you were maxing a player, add another $3-4 million. Combine that with a cap and luxury tax that came in under projections, and the well of money available for the Speights of the world had completely dried up.
It'll be like that going forward, although in a couple of seasons you'll likely see a few more players get the newly increased non-taxpayer mid-level. Really it's a return to the early days of the last CBA, when rookie salaries and minimum deals took up a lot more space, except this time if there's a cap spike those salaries will jump at the same time, so the middle class really needs to get used to this. It will get a little better for the upper-tier of the middle class when the contracts signed last summer drop off the books, but only so much.
Thank you thank you thank you. Please keep repeating this.
Perhaps folks might back off the idea that our role players (like Smart) will get $15-20M per. Role players (essentially, non-stars) are lucky to ever see a nickel over the mid level on the open market once the cap spike issues are worked out.
It won't just be role players. I don't think IT will get near a 4yr Max offer. There just aren't that many teams that will have the necessary cap space that need a PG that badly. The PG market is oversaturated. I don't see IT as a player that opposing GMs and owners are going to be infatuated with. They'll see him as overachieving in the Boston scheme. I think he'll end up getting more like 3yr/75M or 4yr/90M.
There wasn't much demand for IT after his King's or Sun's stints. We got him for a late 1st even though he was on a good contract. IT may not be a system guy but he does need to be a focal point of the offense or else his defensive deficiencies start to trump his offense. I just don't see a team that needs IT enough to justify a 4 year near Max deal. Lowry had to settle and I think IT will too. I thought maybe Dallas but they have Smith now.Depends on the skillset and team situation. Role players who are good 3pt shooters are going to get paid. There will be cases like Porter and Holiday where the team cap situation may dictate an overpay. Then you have KCP who had to settle for 1yr/17M and Noel who still isn't signed. The Sixers apparently gave Reddick 15 minutes to decide on their 1yr/23M offer. I'd expect teams teams to play more hardball. I'd expect more agents to start pushing their clients to accept team friendly extensions. For Smart, I'm not sure I'd even go 4 years/40M. Roberson turned down a 4yr/48M extension and had to settle for 3yr/30M. This is a perfect time to have a good GM who doesn't go by impulse or infatuation plus ownership that stays out of the way.Mo Speights minimum deal in Orlando...
What a head scratcher! Turns down a player option for 2.11 and ends up getting slightly less, loses Bird rights, is playing for a non-competitor.
I know he has his limitations.. But Jeeesus.
I'm not surprised. I said months ago the players who were going to get squeezed by the new CBA were the NBA's middle class. Max salaries went up, and max players were always going to get theirs. Rookie salaries and cap holds went up even more, also cutting into cap and tax space. Minimum salaries increased substantially as well, including for players on already signed minimum deals who had their salaries bumped. Meanwhile, the revenue split didn't change. The changes to draft picks and minimum salaries alone cost teams $3-5 million, and then if you were maxing a player, add another $3-4 million. Combine that with a cap and luxury tax that came in under projections, and the well of money available for the Speights of the world had completely dried up.
It'll be like that going forward, although in a couple of seasons you'll likely see a few more players get the newly increased non-taxpayer mid-level. Really it's a return to the early days of the last CBA, when rookie salaries and minimum deals took up a lot more space, except this time if there's a cap spike those salaries will jump at the same time, so the middle class really needs to get used to this. It will get a little better for the upper-tier of the middle class when the contracts signed last summer drop off the books, but only so much.
Thank you thank you thank you. Please keep repeating this.
Perhaps folks might back off the idea that our role players (like Smart) will get $15-20M per. Role players (essentially, non-stars) are lucky to ever see a nickel over the mid level on the open market once the cap spike issues are worked out.
It won't just be role players. I don't think IT will get near a 4yr Max offer. There just aren't that many teams that will have the necessary cap space that need a PG that badly. The PG market is oversaturated. I don't see IT as a player that opposing GMs and owners are going to be infatuated with. They'll see him as overachieving in the Boston scheme. I think he'll end up getting more like 3yr/75M or 4yr/90M.
Time will tell on IT, plain and simple, but several teams will have max room next summer, and it's not clear how many potential max players will move. Again, I'm talking middle class, not stars. Stars still get paid, and IT is not a system player. He had very good numbers in Sacramento for 3 years. His half season in Phoenix was right in line. That he's at All-NBA level in his 6th year in his later 20s isn't the sign of being a system player -- it's the sign of a really good player at the peak of his career.
I do think IT needs a season in between his prior two seasons in terms of quality, such that teams aren't scared he's on his downslope -- he will always be doubted (as this message board is example A of) so he needs to alleviate those doubts.
The primary thing that could work against IT in free agency is if too many major free agents leave their current team. If LeBron leaves, Cleveland is still over the cap, so that's max money leaving the cap pool without a corresponding amount of cap space opening. Same thing with Boogie in New Orleans, Westbrook/George in OKC (if one leaves, OKC has no room, if both leave OKC is still short of max room, but will have a lot of space), Jordan in LA, Paul in Houston, Wiggins in Minnesota, and maybe 1-2 others. If there are a lot of stars on the move next summer, IT could find out there isn't quite the market. I find the above scenarios unlikely but not impossible. More likely than not IT gets the max, or something very close to it (shorter deal, incentives that get the contract up to max, etc.)
As for Smart, he's trickier. Restricted free agents have a tougher time finding contracts because teams don't want to waste the effort negotiating a contract, that, if fair, gets matched. In other words, you only get the player if you overpay. But with Smart, since the Celtics are in the tax, teams might think they will be able to sign him without the fear of the Celtics matching, in which case he's a normal free agent. He's also only going to be 24, which means you are betting that his best basketball is in his future, not last. I could see a few teams being interested, such as Phoenix, Dallas (where he's from), OKC if Westbrook and George leave (and where he went to school), Philly, and Indiana. All of those teams (including OKC with a departed Westbrook and George) will have cap room, are younger teams trying to find players with upside, and will have varying desires to be competitive, but are probably past a tanking stage. If Smart regresses, that's a different story of course, but if he continues to make incremental improvements, I think he'll be a hot commodity amongst several teams who won't be destinations for max stars. People call him a role-player, and he is, but as someone who turned 23 near the end of last season and is in his 3rd year. He's not a 29 year-old role player. There is a real difference, and that difference is potential, which NBA teams continually show they're willing to pay for.
There wasn't much demand for IT after his King's or Sun's stints. We got him for a late 1st even though he was on a good contract. IT may not be a system guy but he does need to be a focal point of the offense or else his defensive deficiencies start to trump his offense. I just don't see a team that needs IT enough to justify a 4 year near Max deal. Lowry had to settle and I think IT will too. I thought maybe Dallas but they have Smith now.Depends on the skillset and team situation. Role players who are good 3pt shooters are going to get paid. There will be cases like Porter and Holiday where the team cap situation may dictate an overpay. Then you have KCP who had to settle for 1yr/17M and Noel who still isn't signed. The Sixers apparently gave Reddick 15 minutes to decide on their 1yr/23M offer. I'd expect teams teams to play more hardball. I'd expect more agents to start pushing their clients to accept team friendly extensions. For Smart, I'm not sure I'd even go 4 years/40M. Roberson turned down a 4yr/48M extension and had to settle for 3yr/30M. This is a perfect time to have a good GM who doesn't go by impulse or infatuation plus ownership that stays out of the way.Mo Speights minimum deal in Orlando...
What a head scratcher! Turns down a player option for 2.11 and ends up getting slightly less, loses Bird rights, is playing for a non-competitor.
I know he has his limitations.. But Jeeesus.
I'm not surprised. I said months ago the players who were going to get squeezed by the new CBA were the NBA's middle class. Max salaries went up, and max players were always going to get theirs. Rookie salaries and cap holds went up even more, also cutting into cap and tax space. Minimum salaries increased substantially as well, including for players on already signed minimum deals who had their salaries bumped. Meanwhile, the revenue split didn't change. The changes to draft picks and minimum salaries alone cost teams $3-5 million, and then if you were maxing a player, add another $3-4 million. Combine that with a cap and luxury tax that came in under projections, and the well of money available for the Speights of the world had completely dried up.
It'll be like that going forward, although in a couple of seasons you'll likely see a few more players get the newly increased non-taxpayer mid-level. Really it's a return to the early days of the last CBA, when rookie salaries and minimum deals took up a lot more space, except this time if there's a cap spike those salaries will jump at the same time, so the middle class really needs to get used to this. It will get a little better for the upper-tier of the middle class when the contracts signed last summer drop off the books, but only so much.
Thank you thank you thank you. Please keep repeating this.
Perhaps folks might back off the idea that our role players (like Smart) will get $15-20M per. Role players (essentially, non-stars) are lucky to ever see a nickel over the mid level on the open market once the cap spike issues are worked out.
It won't just be role players. I don't think IT will get near a 4yr Max offer. There just aren't that many teams that will have the necessary cap space that need a PG that badly. The PG market is oversaturated. I don't see IT as a player that opposing GMs and owners are going to be infatuated with. They'll see him as overachieving in the Boston scheme. I think he'll end up getting more like 3yr/75M or 4yr/90M.
Time will tell on IT, plain and simple, but several teams will have max room next summer, and it's not clear how many potential max players will move. Again, I'm talking middle class, not stars. Stars still get paid, and IT is not a system player. He had very good numbers in Sacramento for 3 years. His half season in Phoenix was right in line. That he's at All-NBA level in his 6th year in his later 20s isn't the sign of being a system player -- it's the sign of a really good player at the peak of his career.
I do think IT needs a season in between his prior two seasons in terms of quality, such that teams aren't scared he's on his downslope -- he will always be doubted (as this message board is example A of) so he needs to alleviate those doubts.
The primary thing that could work against IT in free agency is if too many major free agents leave their current team. If LeBron leaves, Cleveland is still over the cap, so that's max money leaving the cap pool without a corresponding amount of cap space opening. Same thing with Boogie in New Orleans, Westbrook/George in OKC (if one leaves, OKC has no room, if both leave OKC is still short of max room, but will have a lot of space), Jordan in LA, Paul in Houston, Wiggins in Minnesota, and maybe 1-2 others. If there are a lot of stars on the move next summer, IT could find out there isn't quite the market. I find the above scenarios unlikely but not impossible. More likely than not IT gets the max, or something very close to it (shorter deal, incentives that get the contract up to max, etc.)
As for Smart, he's trickier. Restricted free agents have a tougher time finding contracts because teams don't want to waste the effort negotiating a contract, that, if fair, gets matched. In other words, you only get the player if you overpay. But with Smart, since the Celtics are in the tax, teams might think they will be able to sign him without the fear of the Celtics matching, in which case he's a normal free agent. He's also only going to be 24, which means you are betting that his best basketball is in his future, not last. I could see a few teams being interested, such as Phoenix, Dallas (where he's from), OKC if Westbrook and George leave (and where he went to school), Philly, and Indiana. All of those teams (including OKC with a departed Westbrook and George) will have cap room, are younger teams trying to find players with upside, and will have varying desires to be competitive, but are probably past a tanking stage. If Smart regresses, that's a different story of course, but if he continues to make incremental improvements, I think he'll be a hot commodity amongst several teams who won't be destinations for max stars. People call him a role-player, and he is, but as someone who turned 23 near the end of last season and is in his 3rd year. He's not a 29 year-old role player. There is a real difference, and that difference is potential, which NBA teams continually show they're willing to pay for.
As for Smart, defensive oriented players just don't draw big contracts. Unless he makes a big jump in 3pt shooting, I just don't see teams overpaying for him. People always mention the Sixers wanting him but I don't see that. They already have Covington and they need shooters around Simmons. Bradley is the much better fit for the Sixers and he brings veteran leader ship albeit at a significant cost.
You haven't mentioned any specific teams you think might offer IT a 4 year near Max deal. In the West, don't really see any team having much interest except maybe Denver. In the East, maybe Indiana or the Bulls but they'd be better off rebuilding.There wasn't much demand for IT after his King's or Sun's stints. We got him for a late 1st even though he was on a good contract. IT may not be a system guy but he does need to be a focal point of the offense or else his defensive deficiencies start to trump his offense. I just don't see a team that needs IT enough to justify a 4 year near Max deal. Lowry had to settle and I think IT will too. I thought maybe Dallas but they have Smith now.Depends on the skillset and team situation. Role players who are good 3pt shooters are going to get paid. There will be cases like Porter and Holiday where the team cap situation may dictate an overpay. Then you have KCP who had to settle for 1yr/17M and Noel who still isn't signed. The Sixers apparently gave Reddick 15 minutes to decide on their 1yr/23M offer. I'd expect teams teams to play more hardball. I'd expect more agents to start pushing their clients to accept team friendly extensions. For Smart, I'm not sure I'd even go 4 years/40M. Roberson turned down a 4yr/48M extension and had to settle for 3yr/30M. This is a perfect time to have a good GM who doesn't go by impulse or infatuation plus ownership that stays out of the way.Mo Speights minimum deal in Orlando...
What a head scratcher! Turns down a player option for 2.11 and ends up getting slightly less, loses Bird rights, is playing for a non-competitor.
I know he has his limitations.. But Jeeesus.
I'm not surprised. I said months ago the players who were going to get squeezed by the new CBA were the NBA's middle class. Max salaries went up, and max players were always going to get theirs. Rookie salaries and cap holds went up even more, also cutting into cap and tax space. Minimum salaries increased substantially as well, including for players on already signed minimum deals who had their salaries bumped. Meanwhile, the revenue split didn't change. The changes to draft picks and minimum salaries alone cost teams $3-5 million, and then if you were maxing a player, add another $3-4 million. Combine that with a cap and luxury tax that came in under projections, and the well of money available for the Speights of the world had completely dried up.
It'll be like that going forward, although in a couple of seasons you'll likely see a few more players get the newly increased non-taxpayer mid-level. Really it's a return to the early days of the last CBA, when rookie salaries and minimum deals took up a lot more space, except this time if there's a cap spike those salaries will jump at the same time, so the middle class really needs to get used to this. It will get a little better for the upper-tier of the middle class when the contracts signed last summer drop off the books, but only so much.
Thank you thank you thank you. Please keep repeating this.
Perhaps folks might back off the idea that our role players (like Smart) will get $15-20M per. Role players (essentially, non-stars) are lucky to ever see a nickel over the mid level on the open market once the cap spike issues are worked out.
It won't just be role players. I don't think IT will get near a 4yr Max offer. There just aren't that many teams that will have the necessary cap space that need a PG that badly. The PG market is oversaturated. I don't see IT as a player that opposing GMs and owners are going to be infatuated with. They'll see him as overachieving in the Boston scheme. I think he'll end up getting more like 3yr/75M or 4yr/90M.
Time will tell on IT, plain and simple, but several teams will have max room next summer, and it's not clear how many potential max players will move. Again, I'm talking middle class, not stars. Stars still get paid, and IT is not a system player. He had very good numbers in Sacramento for 3 years. His half season in Phoenix was right in line. That he's at All-NBA level in his 6th year in his later 20s isn't the sign of being a system player -- it's the sign of a really good player at the peak of his career.
I do think IT needs a season in between his prior two seasons in terms of quality, such that teams aren't scared he's on his downslope -- he will always be doubted (as this message board is example A of) so he needs to alleviate those doubts.
The primary thing that could work against IT in free agency is if too many major free agents leave their current team. If LeBron leaves, Cleveland is still over the cap, so that's max money leaving the cap pool without a corresponding amount of cap space opening. Same thing with Boogie in New Orleans, Westbrook/George in OKC (if one leaves, OKC has no room, if both leave OKC is still short of max room, but will have a lot of space), Jordan in LA, Paul in Houston, Wiggins in Minnesota, and maybe 1-2 others. If there are a lot of stars on the move next summer, IT could find out there isn't quite the market. I find the above scenarios unlikely but not impossible. More likely than not IT gets the max, or something very close to it (shorter deal, incentives that get the contract up to max, etc.)
As for Smart, he's trickier. Restricted free agents have a tougher time finding contracts because teams don't want to waste the effort negotiating a contract, that, if fair, gets matched. In other words, you only get the player if you overpay. But with Smart, since the Celtics are in the tax, teams might think they will be able to sign him without the fear of the Celtics matching, in which case he's a normal free agent. He's also only going to be 24, which means you are betting that his best basketball is in his future, not last. I could see a few teams being interested, such as Phoenix, Dallas (where he's from), OKC if Westbrook and George leave (and where he went to school), Philly, and Indiana. All of those teams (including OKC with a departed Westbrook and George) will have cap room, are younger teams trying to find players with upside, and will have varying desires to be competitive, but are probably past a tanking stage. If Smart regresses, that's a different story of course, but if he continues to make incremental improvements, I think he'll be a hot commodity amongst several teams who won't be destinations for max stars. People call him a role-player, and he is, but as someone who turned 23 near the end of last season and is in his 3rd year. He's not a 29 year-old role player. There is a real difference, and that difference is potential, which NBA teams continually show they're willing to pay for.
As for Smart, defensive oriented players just don't draw big contracts. Unless he makes a big jump in 3pt shooting, I just don't see teams overpaying for him. People always mention the Sixers wanting him but I don't see that. They already have Covington and they need shooters around Simmons. Bradley is the much better fit for the Sixers and he brings veteran leader ship albeit at a significant cost.
IT had decent interest. As someone only 3 years removed from being pick 60, he wasn't seen as a star, but he ultimately signed for about the 2014 equivalent of what Dion Waiters signed for this year. Desirable, not a star, with some question marks. And then he exceeded those expectations, but that doesn't mean he's a system player. He can score at all three levels, and has proven he is able to play starter minutes at the point without any dip in production, which people he doubted he could do. He's answered those questions. He's going to get paid, and it will hopefully be by Boston. He's no more a system PG than Brady is a system QB.
And I don't know why you bring up Kyle Lowry as a reason IT will get less. He just signed a deal that averages $31 million a year, at age 31, with incentives that take it up to averaging $33.3 million a year. IT will hit free agency two years younger. A max deal with another team next year would average $32.8 million over four years. That's virtually identical to what Lowry got, with an extra year, but again, he'd be two years younger.
I'm done talking about Smart, because every time I talk about him I qualify it with saying that he's young and needs to continue to show a little improvement, and I'm tired of people thinking that 23 year-olds are what they are.
You haven't mentioned any specific teams you think might offer IT a 4 year near Max deal. In the West, don't really see any team having much interest except maybe Denver. In the East, maybe Indiana or the Bulls but they'd be better off rebuilding.There wasn't much demand for IT after his King's or Sun's stints. We got him for a late 1st even though he was on a good contract. IT may not be a system guy but he does need to be a focal point of the offense or else his defensive deficiencies start to trump his offense. I just don't see a team that needs IT enough to justify a 4 year near Max deal. Lowry had to settle and I think IT will too. I thought maybe Dallas but they have Smith now.Depends on the skillset and team situation. Role players who are good 3pt shooters are going to get paid. There will be cases like Porter and Holiday where the team cap situation may dictate an overpay. Then you have KCP who had to settle for 1yr/17M and Noel who still isn't signed. The Sixers apparently gave Reddick 15 minutes to decide on their 1yr/23M offer. I'd expect teams teams to play more hardball. I'd expect more agents to start pushing their clients to accept team friendly extensions. For Smart, I'm not sure I'd even go 4 years/40M. Roberson turned down a 4yr/48M extension and had to settle for 3yr/30M. This is a perfect time to have a good GM who doesn't go by impulse or infatuation plus ownership that stays out of the way.Mo Speights minimum deal in Orlando...
What a head scratcher! Turns down a player option for 2.11 and ends up getting slightly less, loses Bird rights, is playing for a non-competitor.
I know he has his limitations.. But Jeeesus.
I'm not surprised. I said months ago the players who were going to get squeezed by the new CBA were the NBA's middle class. Max salaries went up, and max players were always going to get theirs. Rookie salaries and cap holds went up even more, also cutting into cap and tax space. Minimum salaries increased substantially as well, including for players on already signed minimum deals who had their salaries bumped. Meanwhile, the revenue split didn't change. The changes to draft picks and minimum salaries alone cost teams $3-5 million, and then if you were maxing a player, add another $3-4 million. Combine that with a cap and luxury tax that came in under projections, and the well of money available for the Speights of the world had completely dried up.
It'll be like that going forward, although in a couple of seasons you'll likely see a few more players get the newly increased non-taxpayer mid-level. Really it's a return to the early days of the last CBA, when rookie salaries and minimum deals took up a lot more space, except this time if there's a cap spike those salaries will jump at the same time, so the middle class really needs to get used to this. It will get a little better for the upper-tier of the middle class when the contracts signed last summer drop off the books, but only so much.
Thank you thank you thank you. Please keep repeating this.
Perhaps folks might back off the idea that our role players (like Smart) will get $15-20M per. Role players (essentially, non-stars) are lucky to ever see a nickel over the mid level on the open market once the cap spike issues are worked out.
It won't just be role players. I don't think IT will get near a 4yr Max offer. There just aren't that many teams that will have the necessary cap space that need a PG that badly. The PG market is oversaturated. I don't see IT as a player that opposing GMs and owners are going to be infatuated with. They'll see him as overachieving in the Boston scheme. I think he'll end up getting more like 3yr/75M or 4yr/90M.
Time will tell on IT, plain and simple, but several teams will have max room next summer, and it's not clear how many potential max players will move. Again, I'm talking middle class, not stars. Stars still get paid, and IT is not a system player. He had very good numbers in Sacramento for 3 years. His half season in Phoenix was right in line. That he's at All-NBA level in his 6th year in his later 20s isn't the sign of being a system player -- it's the sign of a really good player at the peak of his career.
I do think IT needs a season in between his prior two seasons in terms of quality, such that teams aren't scared he's on his downslope -- he will always be doubted (as this message board is example A of) so he needs to alleviate those doubts.
The primary thing that could work against IT in free agency is if too many major free agents leave their current team. If LeBron leaves, Cleveland is still over the cap, so that's max money leaving the cap pool without a corresponding amount of cap space opening. Same thing with Boogie in New Orleans, Westbrook/George in OKC (if one leaves, OKC has no room, if both leave OKC is still short of max room, but will have a lot of space), Jordan in LA, Paul in Houston, Wiggins in Minnesota, and maybe 1-2 others. If there are a lot of stars on the move next summer, IT could find out there isn't quite the market. I find the above scenarios unlikely but not impossible. More likely than not IT gets the max, or something very close to it (shorter deal, incentives that get the contract up to max, etc.)
As for Smart, he's trickier. Restricted free agents have a tougher time finding contracts because teams don't want to waste the effort negotiating a contract, that, if fair, gets matched. In other words, you only get the player if you overpay. But with Smart, since the Celtics are in the tax, teams might think they will be able to sign him without the fear of the Celtics matching, in which case he's a normal free agent. He's also only going to be 24, which means you are betting that his best basketball is in his future, not last. I could see a few teams being interested, such as Phoenix, Dallas (where he's from), OKC if Westbrook and George leave (and where he went to school), Philly, and Indiana. All of those teams (including OKC with a departed Westbrook and George) will have cap room, are younger teams trying to find players with upside, and will have varying desires to be competitive, but are probably past a tanking stage. If Smart regresses, that's a different story of course, but if he continues to make incremental improvements, I think he'll be a hot commodity amongst several teams who won't be destinations for max stars. People call him a role-player, and he is, but as someone who turned 23 near the end of last season and is in his 3rd year. He's not a 29 year-old role player. There is a real difference, and that difference is potential, which NBA teams continually show they're willing to pay for.
As for Smart, defensive oriented players just don't draw big contracts. Unless he makes a big jump in 3pt shooting, I just don't see teams overpaying for him. People always mention the Sixers wanting him but I don't see that. They already have Covington and they need shooters around Simmons. Bradley is the much better fit for the Sixers and he brings veteran leader ship albeit at a significant cost.
IT had decent interest. As someone only 3 years removed from being pick 60, he wasn't seen as a star, but he ultimately signed for about the 2014 equivalent of what Dion Waiters signed for this year. Desirable, not a star, with some question marks. And then he exceeded those expectations, but that doesn't mean he's a system player. He can score at all three levels, and has proven he is able to play starter minutes at the point without any dip in production, which people he doubted he could do. He's answered those questions. He's going to get paid, and it will hopefully be by Boston. He's no more a system PG than Brady is a system QB.
And I don't know why you bring up Kyle Lowry as a reason IT will get less. He just signed a deal that averages $31 million a year, at age 31, with incentives that take it up to averaging $33.3 million a year. IT will hit free agency two years younger. A max deal with another team next year would average $32.8 million over four years. That's virtually identical to what Lowry got, with an extra year, but again, he'd be two years younger.
I'm done talking about Smart, because every time I talk about him I qualify it with saying that he's young and needs to continue to show a little improvement, and I'm tired of people thinking that 23 year-olds are what they are.
I mentioned Lowry because he really didn't draw much interest from other teams. Toronto could have played hardball and gotten him for quite a bit less but they were satisfied not having to give him a 4th year.
I didn't say that Smart couldn't improve but I don't expect it. He shot 29% from 3 in 2 college seasons and he's shooting 29% from 3 in 3 NBA seasons. If his 4th season is similar, I don't see him getting any big offers. He'll be 24 and teams aren't going to project significant improvement.
Donatas Motiejunas is still out there on the available free agents list. He's still a young, talented big man who can shoot from outside and post up. That contract ordeal with Houston really hurt his career. Where do you guys think he ends up?
Donatas Motiejunas is still out there on the available free agents list. He's still a young, talented big man who can shoot from outside and post up. That contract ordeal with Houston really hurt his career. Where do you guys think he ends up?
That was the work of the great B.J. Armstrong who lost his client 30 million dollars. Motiejunas should sue.
Not sure if this belongs here, but I can't think of a better thread either.
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http://nba.nbcsports.com/2017/08/06/report-mikhail-prokhorov-might-be-willing-to-sell-nets-if-prices-reaches-2-billion/
(I guess I'll be posting here waiting for the 2017-8 season thread to open)
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http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/20286965/nba-issues-memo-detailing-how-add-rest-schedule
"Some of the new improvements include:
• Eliminating stretches of four games in five days and 18 games in 30 days.
• Reduction of five games in seven nights to just 40 instances across (1.3 per team), down from last year when it was on the schedule 90 times (three per team).
• Reduction in number of back-to-backs to 14.9 per team, down from 16.3 per team. In all, 40 back-to-backs have been eliminated from last season.
• Reduction of single-game road trips by 17 percent.
• Reduction in single-game road trips over 2,000 miles by 67 percent; there are only 11 of them on schedule.
• Increase in weekend games from 549 to 568, much of the boost coming on Saturdays. Previously the NBA avoided Saturdays and Sunday afternoons during football season to dodge conflicts.
Teams that have seen versions of their schedules can petition the league for changes. However, the overall themes will stay intact"
Free agent Donald Sloan, a 5-year NBA veteran, has agreed on a one-year deal with the Washington Wizards, league sources tell The Vertical.
Not sure if this belongs here, but I can't think of a better thread either.
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http://nba.nbcsports.com/2017/08/06/report-mikhail-prokhorov-might-be-willing-to-sell-nets-if-prices-reaches-2-billion/
Might he? That's so generous of him!
Sources: Mavericks to sign center Jeff Withey. @ShamsCharania report. sports.yahoo.com/sources-maveri…Their latest Noel contract trick.
Not sure if this belongs here, but I can't think of a better thread either.
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http://nba.nbcsports.com/2017/08/06/report-mikhail-prokhorov-might-be-willing-to-sell-nets-if-prices-reaches-2-billion/
Not sure if this belongs here, but I can't think of a better thread either.
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http://nba.nbcsports.com/2017/08/06/report-mikhail-prokhorov-might-be-willing-to-sell-nets-if-prices-reaches-2-billion/
I'm a native New Yorker and wouldn't even know he still owns the team if not for following the NBA like I do. He has taken a huge step back away from the limelight. When they made that trade, he was everywhere. Now? Nowhere. He should sell the team.
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http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2728453-pacers-reportedly-filing-charges-against-lakers-for-tampering-with-paul-george
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http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2728453-pacers-reportedly-filing-charges-against-lakers-for-tampering-with-paul-george
Tampering is really hard to prove so Indy must have some sort of proof.
Shabazz Muhammed still without a team?I think he'll re sign with the wolves for the minimum. They have playing time on the wing behind Butler and Wiggins.
Noel reportedly turned down a deal that averaged 17.5M. His head is either way too big or he's getting some really dumb advice.From the Mavs? Jeez...that would be the overpay of the century.
The last couple offseasons it wouldn't have been considering contracts for Mozgov, Biyambo, Mahinmi. But this offseason is for the most part a whole different story (ignore Knicks Hardaway deal). There's no reason for the Mavs to cave in. They should just dare Noel to take the qualifying offer.Noel reportedly turned down a deal that averaged 17.5M. His head is either way too big or he's getting some really dumb advice.From the Mavs? Jeez...that would be the overpay of the century.
See, it still would've been an overpay, same as all those deals were at the time. Teams acted like kids in a sweet store with the cap spike, spending at will. It was widely said at the time that because there was no cap smoothing, some of these teams would get found out a few years later. They did, the Lakers basically crippled their cap, as did the Knicks and Magic.The last couple offseasons it wouldn't have been considering contracts for Mozgov, Biyambo, Mahinmi. But this offseason is for the most part a whole different story (ignore Knicks Hardaway deal). There's no reason for the Mavs to cave in. They should just dare Noel to take the qualifying offer.Noel reportedly turned down a deal that averaged 17.5M. His head is either way too big or he's getting some really dumb advice.From the Mavs? Jeez...that would be the overpay of the century.
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http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2728453-pacers-reportedly-filing-charges-against-lakers-for-tampering-with-paul-george
Tampering is really hard to prove so Indy must have some sort of proof.
Didn't Danny get a fine for sitting next to Durant mother at a UT game? The Lakers will at least get a fine or something.
You didn't just say overpay. You said overpay of the century. I was pointing out that was a severe exaggeration. With the Knicks Hardaway contract, it wouldn't even be the overpay of this offseason. Mozgov, Biyambo, Mahinmi, to name a few, are much worse.See, it still would've been an overpay, same as all those deals were at the time. Teams acted like kids in a sweet store with the cap spike, spending at will. It was widely said at the time that because there was no cap smoothing, some of these teams would get found out a few years later. They did, the Lakers basically crippled their cap, as did the Knicks and Magic.The last couple offseasons it wouldn't have been considering contracts for Mozgov, Biyambo, Mahinmi. But this offseason is for the most part a whole different story (ignore Knicks Hardaway deal). There's no reason for the Mavs to cave in. They should just dare Noel to take the qualifying offer.Noel reportedly turned down a deal that averaged 17.5M. His head is either way too big or he's getting some really dumb advice.From the Mavs? Jeez...that would be the overpay of the century.
The reason that Noel can't get anything this summer is because of contracts like Mozgov clogging other teams' cap space. So he's hard done by in that regard, but anything over $10-12m for Noel is an overpay based on the value of his skillset in the modern NBA.
Ah I see. Yes is was hyperbole to say I overpay of the century.You didn't just say overpay. You said overpay of the century. I was pointing out that was a severe exaggeration. With the Knicks Hardaway contract, it wouldn't even be the overpay of this offseason. Mozgov, Biyambo, Mahinmi, to name a few, are much worse.See, it still would've been an overpay, same as all those deals were at the time. Teams acted like kids in a sweet store with the cap spike, spending at will. It was widely said at the time that because there was no cap smoothing, some of these teams would get found out a few years later. They did, the Lakers basically crippled their cap, as did the Knicks and Magic.The last couple offseasons it wouldn't have been considering contracts for Mozgov, Biyambo, Mahinmi. But this offseason is for the most part a whole different story (ignore Knicks Hardaway deal). There's no reason for the Mavs to cave in. They should just dare Noel to take the qualifying offer.Noel reportedly turned down a deal that averaged 17.5M. His head is either way too big or he's getting some really dumb advice.From the Mavs? Jeez...that would be the overpay of the century.
The reason that Noel can't get anything this summer is because of contracts like Mozgov clogging other teams' cap space. So he's hard done by in that regard, but anything over $10-12m for Noel is an overpay based on the value of his skillset in the modern NBA.
Noel is a good defensive center who can defend on the perimeter. He's very switchable. He also runs the court well as well as finishes on pick and rolls. That's still a good skillset for a center in the modern NBA.
Iman Shumpert also requested a trade after the season, multiple sources told ESPN. Cleveland was in talks to trade Shumpert and his $10.3 million contract to Minnesota or Houston, but both deals fell apart. Logic would tell you that the Cavs will remain motivated to find a team to take Shumpert.
A Cavs source told ESPN simply that the team is "not closing the door" on more trades before training camp opens in late September.
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https://www.si.com/extra-mustard/2017/08/25/kid-asks-brad-stevens-why-celtics-traded-isaiah-thomas
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https://www.si.com/extra-mustard/2017/08/25/kid-asks-brad-stevens-why-celtics-traded-isaiah-thomas
Lol 10 seconds apart.
Chris Haynes @ChrisBHaynes
Nerlens Noel signs 1-year, $4.1 million QO to return to Mavs, league sources tell ESPN. Reported $17M "offer " was non-existent in any form.
1:10 PM · Aug 26, 2017
Wow, that's surprising!
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Sully to the Nets?
Wow. I wonder what it would take to get him. Do you think something like Yabu and the Clippers pick would work? I'm not sure about giving up the Memphis pick, but I think Noel could possibly be available after this disaster of a summer, though he'd have to agree to come here.
Obviously he'll be affordable next summer with even less money to go around, but I'd love his fit here. He'd also be a good young big prospect for us to build around, and he'd also help us with our current lack of bigs:
PG: Irving, Rozier
SG: Brown, Smart
SF: Hayward, Tatum
PF: Horford, Morris
C: Noel, Baynes
He'd hurt our starting lineup spacing a bit, but he'd probably really help our rebounding and defense, especially our interior defense.
If the Nets pick goes to Cleveland, I will have a lot of fun rooting for Sully to tear it up and get Brooklyn to 30 wins. :)(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DIaLQN2UMAANEYo?format=jpg)
Sully to the Nets?
Interesting..here is hoping Sully finds himself in Brooklyn, and puts up daily double doubles for them after our picks and trade become official of course! If not, here is hoping he finds out how good NY area pizza truly is ;D
Nerlens back to Dallas for QOQuoteChris Haynes @ChrisBHaynes
Nerlens Noel signs 1-year, $4.1 million QO to return to Mavs, league sources tell ESPN. Reported $17M "offer " was non-existent in any form.
1:10 PM · Aug 26, 2017
we need rondo to sabatage the pelicans, and sully to sabatage the nets. once in green, always in green(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DIaLQN2UMAANEYo?format=jpg)
Sully to the Nets?
Interesting..here is hoping Sully finds himself in Brooklyn, and puts up daily double doubles for them after our picks and trade become official of course! If not, here is hoping he finds out how good NY area pizza truly is ;D
Just was on Trademachine to play around, and noticed that Gerald Green was on the pay roll.
One year, 5 mill. I'm cool with that if its true, bench needs some vet scoring, and he played well during the playoffs.
"We knew the second practice [after Payne was acquired] that he couldn’t play at [an NBA] level,’’ the source said. “The only reason it took two practices was because we thought maybe it was nerves in the first one.
Bulls likely to waive Pondexter and Cameron Payne. Also, in the article below some embarrassing details about the Bulls FO. I enjoyed this one in particular:Quote"We knew the second practice [after Payne was acquired] that he couldn’t play at [an NBA] level,’’ the source said. “The only reason it took two practices was because we thought maybe it was nerves in the first one.
http://chicago.suntimes.com/sports/source-bulls-got-gar-red-in-the-cameron-payne-trade/
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https://twitter.com/ChrisMannixYS/status/905552124607688704
(https://i.gyazo.com/3c9d26a3524bd5b7a43b169b3e2ec41a.png)Good luck with that (to both Young and the Bucks).
https://twitter.com/ChrisMannixYS/status/905552124607688704
Bulls likely to waive Pondexter and Cameron Payne. Also, in the article below some embarrassing details about the Bulls FO. I enjoyed this one in particular:Quote"We knew the second practice [after Payne was acquired] that he couldn’t play at [an NBA] level,’’ the source said. “The only reason it took two practices was because we thought maybe it was nerves in the first one.
http://chicago.suntimes.com/sports/source-bulls-got-gar-red-in-the-cameron-payne-trade/
How Garpax haven't been fired is beyond me.
Not sure if this belongs here, but I can't think of a better thread either.
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http://nba.nbcsports.com/2017/08/06/report-mikhail-prokhorov-might-be-willing-to-sell-nets-if-prices-reaches-2-billion/
Might he? That's so generous of him!
The Clippers went for that price in 2014, so it's not inconceivable, especially since they own their own building in Brooklyn.
This would be kind of hilarious since it looks like Brooklyn is being run by competent people for once. By the time he sells, they'll probably have finally turned it around.Not sure if this belongs here, but I can't think of a better thread either.
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http://nba.nbcsports.com/2017/08/06/report-mikhail-prokhorov-might-be-willing-to-sell-nets-if-prices-reaches-2-billion/
Might he? That's so generous of him!
The Clippers went for that price in 2014, so it's not inconceivable, especially since they own their own building in Brooklyn.
found an article today claiming Prokhorov is selling.
>Brooklyn Nets owner Mikhail Prokhorov is ready for a long goodbye.
>The Russian billionaire, unable to sell a minority stake in the money-losing NBA franchise, now plans to off-load a controlling stake in the team, two sources close to the situation told The Post.
>However, Prokhorov is hoping to sell the Nets in a two-part process, the sources said. First, the 52-year-old will look to sell a minority piece of the team — but give the buyer the right to buy the entire team in a short period of time — say three years, the sources said. [...]
>Prokhorov acquired the Nets in 2010. There is speculation on why he wants to retain control for a few more seasons.
>“I think he saves face by being a partner in a two-step transaction,” a source said.
http://nypost.com/2017/09/07/mikhail-prokhorovs-complicated-plan-for-selling-undesirable-nets/
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https://twitter.com/IanBegley/status/890630628667908097
Wisconsin's Nigel Hayes has agreed to a partially guaranteed deal with the Knicks, league source tells ESPN.
kinda funny considering..
https://www.google.com/amp/www.nydailynews.com/amp/sports/college/nigel-hayes-trashes-dirty-new-york-wisconsin-florida-article-1.3007022
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https://twitter.com/IanBegley/status/890630628667908097
Oh ffs. Unbelievable.
Wisconsin's Nigel Hayes has agreed to a partially guaranteed deal with the Knicks, league source tells ESPN.
kinda funny considering..
https://www.google.com/amp/www.nydailynews.com/amp/sports/college/nigel-hayes-trashes-dirty-new-york-wisconsin-florida-article-1.3007022
Sigh. Good luck, Nigel. #ShouldHaveBeenACeltic
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https://twitter.com/IanBegley/status/890630628667908097
Oh ffs. Unbelievable.
Wisconsin's Nigel Hayes has agreed to a partially guaranteed deal with the Knicks, league source tells ESPN.
kinda funny considering..
https://www.google.com/amp/www.nydailynews.com/amp/sports/college/nigel-hayes-trashes-dirty-new-york-wisconsin-florida-article-1.3007022
Sigh. Good luck, Nigel. #ShouldHaveBeenACeltic
Ah, yes. The classic "What the hell Danny! You passed right over this obscure undrafted guy from 3 years ago! For what?! See, the man just has a terrible eye for talent. This kid is gonna be Sixth Man of the Year in the Chinese league next year, and you don't even bring him in for a try out?! Terrible!"
I love your takes BLA. They are straight
I can't believe nobody's made a joke about a guy named Cleveland playing for Golden State.
New Orleans is finalizing a training camp deal for free agent center Perry Jones, league source tells ESPN.
Free agent center Tyler Zeller is finalizing a two-year deal with the Brooklyn Nets, league sources tell ESPN.Like this for Zeller
Dude will probably start over Mozgov, think he can earn some money with his next contract after playing a 2 man game with Lin whenever he's on the floor. Also improves the Nets, which is good.Free agent center Tyler Zeller is finalizing a two-year deal with the Brooklyn Nets, league sources tell ESPN.Like this for Zeller
Nets may not be quite as bad as last season. They now have:When Lin was healthy last season they were considerably better than when he wasn't, going 13-23. If that continues this season with their additional new guys they could be similar to that, and win 32 or so games.
D'angelo Russell, Jeremy Lin and Isaiah Whitehead in the backcourt,
Allen Crabbe, Joe Harris, Rondae Hollis-Jefferson, Caris Levert and Demarre Carroll on the wings,
and Zeller, Mozgov, and Trevor Booker inside.
Combine that with no incentive to tank, and they can do alright in the east.
Nets may not be quite as bad as last season. They now have:The worst bigs in the NBA by far
D'angelo Russell, Jeremy Lin and Isaiah Whitehead in the backcourt,
Allen Crabbe, Joe Harris, Rondae Hollis-Jefferson, Caris Levert and Demarre Carroll on the wings,
and Zeller, Mozgov, and Trevor Booker inside.
Combine that with no incentive to tank, and they can do alright in the east.
If Lin is healthy they'll make the playoffs, he's just a special player that seems to improve his team wherever he goes.Nets may not be quite as bad as last season. They now have:When Lin was healthy last season they were considerably better than when he wasn't, going 13-23. If that continues this season with their additional new guys they could be similar to that, and win 32 or so games.
D'angelo Russell, Jeremy Lin and Isaiah Whitehead in the backcourt,
Allen Crabbe, Joe Harris, Rondae Hollis-Jefferson, Caris Levert and Demarre Carroll on the wings,
and Zeller, Mozgov, and Trevor Booker inside.
Combine that with no incentive to tank, and they can do alright in the east.
Nets may not be quite as bad as last season. They now have:When Lin was healthy last season they were considerably better than when he wasn't, going 13-23. If that continues this season with their additional new guys they could be similar to that, and win 32 or so games.
D'angelo Russell, Jeremy Lin and Isaiah Whitehead in the backcourt,
Allen Crabbe, Joe Harris, Rondae Hollis-Jefferson, Caris Levert and Demarre Carroll on the wings,
and Zeller, Mozgov, and Trevor Booker inside.
Combine that with no incentive to tank, and they can do alright in the east.
Actually I really like a Lin-Zeller combo in the PnP or the PnR, Lin is a great fit with Zeller and vice versa. I think they'll overachieve and win 34 games or so.Nets may not be quite as bad as last season. They now have:When Lin was healthy last season they were considerably better than when he wasn't, going 13-23. If that continues this season with their additional new guys they could be similar to that, and win 32 or so games.
D'angelo Russell, Jeremy Lin and Isaiah Whitehead in the backcourt,
Allen Crabbe, Joe Harris, Rondae Hollis-Jefferson, Caris Levert and Demarre Carroll on the wings,
and Zeller, Mozgov, and Trevor Booker inside.
Combine that with no incentive to tank, and they can do alright in the east.
When Lin and Lopez were healthy they were okay, but with Lin and no Lopez they were 0-2 or 0-3. Lin alone didn't win them any games last year, and they haven't brought in anyone that will have an impact similar to Lopez. 32 wins would surprise me (even in the weak East)
Worst wings too.Nets may not be quite as bad as last season. They now have:The worst bigs in the NBA by far
D'angelo Russell, Jeremy Lin and Isaiah Whitehead in the backcourt,
Allen Crabbe, Joe Harris, Rondae Hollis-Jefferson, Caris Levert and Demarre Carroll on the wings,
and Zeller, Mozgov, and Trevor Booker inside.
Combine that with no incentive to tank, and they can do alright in the east.
Worst wings too.Nets may not be quite as bad as last season. They now have:The worst bigs in the NBA by far
D'angelo Russell, Jeremy Lin and Isaiah Whitehead in the backcourt,
Allen Crabbe, Joe Harris, Rondae Hollis-Jefferson, Caris Levert and Demarre Carroll on the wings,
and Zeller, Mozgov, and Trevor Booker inside.
Combine that with no incentive to tank, and they can do alright in the east.
Russell seems to have made strides with all those crazy clips about him this summer, and Lin is no slouch. I'd say they have a pretty good backcourt.Worst wings too.Nets may not be quite as bad as last season. They now have:The worst bigs in the NBA by far
D'angelo Russell, Jeremy Lin and Isaiah Whitehead in the backcourt,
Allen Crabbe, Joe Harris, Rondae Hollis-Jefferson, Caris Levert and Demarre Carroll on the wings,
and Zeller, Mozgov, and Trevor Booker inside.
Combine that with no incentive to tank, and they can do alright in the east.
Gotta be a bottom 5 backcourt too, though that could change if Russell makes strides.
Basically they need 2-3 young guys to be either efficient enough to help in a lot of games or explosive enough to swing the outcome of a few. And even then best case is probably like 32-34 wins.
Russell seems to have made strides with all those crazy clips about him this summer, and Lin is no slouch. I'd say they have a pretty good backcourt.Worst wings too.Nets may not be quite as bad as last season. They now have:The worst bigs in the NBA by far
D'angelo Russell, Jeremy Lin and Isaiah Whitehead in the backcourt,
Allen Crabbe, Joe Harris, Rondae Hollis-Jefferson, Caris Levert and Demarre Carroll on the wings,
and Zeller, Mozgov, and Trevor Booker inside.
Combine that with no incentive to tank, and they can do alright in the east.
Gotta be a bottom 5 backcourt too, though that could change if Russell makes strides.
Basically they need 2-3 young guys to be either efficient enough to help in a lot of games or explosive enough to swing the outcome of a few. And even then best case is probably like 32-34 wins.
Miami Heat guard Josh Richardson is finalizing a 4-year, $42M contract extension, league sources tell ESPN.
Miami Heat guard Josh Richardson is finalizing a 4-year, $42M contract extension, league sources tell ESPN.
Miami Heat guard Josh Richardson is finalizing a 4-year, $42M contract extension, league sources tell ESPN.Alert*Marcus Smart extension watch*Alert
The Indiana Pacers and free agent forward Jarrod Uthoff have agreed to a one-year, partially guaranteed deal, a league source told Basketball Insiders.
Uthoff, who shot 46 percent from beyond the arc in the G-league last year before being called up by the Dallas Mavericks, gives Indiana 20 players heading into training camp.
Uthoff passed on EuroLeague offers as well as offers from three other NBA teams, Basketball Insiders has learned.
The 24-year-old forward averaged 4.4 points and 2.6 rebounds in 12.8 minutes per game while playing in nine games for the Mavericks last season.
QuoteThe Indiana Pacers and free agent forward Jarrod Uthoff have agreed to a one-year, partially guaranteed deal, a league source told Basketball Insiders.
Uthoff, who shot 46 percent from beyond the arc in the G-league last year before being called up by the Dallas Mavericks, gives Indiana 20 players heading into training camp.
Uthoff passed on EuroLeague offers as well as offers from three other NBA teams, Basketball Insiders has learned.
The 24-year-old forward averaged 4.4 points and 2.6 rebounds in 12.8 minutes per game while playing in nine games for the Mavericks last season.
Nooooooooooooo!
Gerald signing with the Bucks.
This is so awesome on so many levels. Hurts the Lakers standings and Rockets, Thunder and Golden State are going to be beaten down come the finals. All we gotta do is outlast Lebron, Love and a hobbled ITgood points. West is going to be a bloodbath where as we can just kick embiid in the knee first round, wear black to the wizards 2nd round, and destroy lebron and friends
Thomas Robinson signed with Khimki Moscow (Russian Team).
Looks like that last roster spot will remain open during the season for flexibility.
Thomas Robinson signed with Khimki Moscow (Russian Team).I hope so. No need to fill it now when there should be much better options later in the year
Looks like that last roster spot will remain open during the season for flexibility.
Thomas Robinson signed with Khimki Moscow (Russian Team).I hope so. No need to fill it now when there should be much better options later in the year
Looks like that last roster spot will remain open during the season for flexibility.
To call it incorrect is overstating it. Yes, they can waive players, but they still get paid, so to be generally avoided. C's did pay Ben Bentil $250k a few years ago, essentially for the flexibility to waive him. However, waiving bigger contracts is a bad use of resources.Thomas Robinson signed with Khimki Moscow (Russian Team).I hope so. No need to fill it now when there should be much better options later in the year
Looks like that last roster spot will remain open during the season for flexibility.
This is often repeated, but incorrect. We aren't tied to a player we sign and can always waive these veteran minimum players for either injury or performance. The Cavs did it last year with Bogut to Sanders to Tavares.
To call it incorrect is overstating it. Yes, they can waive players, but they still get paid, so to be generally avoided. C's did pay Ben Bentil $250k a few years ago, essentially for the flexibility to waive him. However, waiving bigger contracts is a bad use of resources.Thomas Robinson signed with Khimki Moscow (Russian Team).I hope so. No need to fill it now when there should be much better options later in the year
Looks like that last roster spot will remain open during the season for flexibility.
This is often repeated, but incorrect. We aren't tied to a player we sign and can always waive these veteran minimum players for either injury or performance. The Cavs did it last year with Bogut to Sanders to Tavares.
The Bulls and Dwyane Wade have reached agreement on a buyout, per sources.
Sources: Cleveland, San Antonio and Miami are leaders for Dwyane Wade post-Bulls buyout. OKC could become factor too.
Sixers signed Emeka Okafor for their training camp. By this point, I didn't think they'd have any Okafor on their roster but now they have two.With the signing of Amir and bringing in Humphries and Emeka, I can't help but question when these vets are going to get playing time. The sixers front court was already loaded with Embiid, Okafor, Saric, Holmes and Simmons. Emeka and Humphries can only be training camp and preseason fodder.
Sixers signed Emeka Okafor for their training camp. By this point, I didn't think they'd have any Okafor on their roster but now they have two.With the signing of Amir and bringing in Humphries and Emeka, I can't help but question when these vets are going to get playing time. The sixers front court was already loaded with Embiid, Okafor, Saric, Holmes and Simmons. Emeka and Humphries can only be training camp and preseason fodder.
The Humphries signing especially puzzles me. Why would he sign a non-guaranteed deal to sit on the bench. You would think he had to have guaranteed minimum contract offers out their somewhere.
Unless of course, Embiid is still hurt and Okafor is going to be traded as soon as possible.
Sixers signed Emeka Okafor for their training camp. By this point, I didn't think they'd have any Okafor on their roster but now they have two. Thought Emeka retire lol
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Phoenix Suns forward TJ Warren has agreed to a four-year, $50M contract extension, league sources tell ESPN.
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Phoenix Suns forward TJ Warren has agreed to a four-year, $50M contract extension, league sources tell ESPN.
Interesting. No doubt this will be a reference point in the Marcus Smart negotiations. Is this the first guy to get an extension out of that class?
Also, I just saw this slightly scary prediction from RealGM https://basketball.realgm.com/analysis/245269/Previewing-The-2014-Draft-Class-Extension-Market
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Phoenix Suns forward TJ Warren has agreed to a four-year, $50M contract extension, league sources tell ESPN.
Interesting. No doubt this will be a reference point in the Marcus Smart negotiations. Is this the first guy to get an extension out of that class?
Also, I just saw this slightly scary prediction from RealGM https://basketball.realgm.com/analysis/245269/Previewing-The-2014-Draft-Class-Extension-Market
Wow those are some crazy predictions. I think signing Smart to the same deal as Warren would be a good idea but any higher and you may as well wait til the summer. Thats a lot for TJ Warren.Adrian WojnarowskiVerified account @wojespn 34m34 minutes ago
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Phoenix Suns forward TJ Warren has agreed to a four-year, $50M contract extension, league sources tell ESPN.
Interesting. No doubt this will be a reference point in the Marcus Smart negotiations. Is this the first guy to get an extension out of that class?
Also, I just saw this slightly scary prediction from RealGM https://basketball.realgm.com/analysis/245269/Previewing-The-2014-Draft-Class-Extension-Market
Wow those are some crazy predictions. I think signing Smart to the same deal as Warren would be a good idea but any higher and you may as well wait til the summer. Thats a lot for TJ Warren.Adrian WojnarowskiVerified account @wojespn 34m34 minutes ago
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Phoenix Suns forward TJ Warren has agreed to a four-year, $50M contract extension, league sources tell ESPN.
Interesting. No doubt this will be a reference point in the Marcus Smart negotiations. Is this the first guy to get an extension out of that class?
Also, I just saw this slightly scary prediction from RealGM https://basketball.realgm.com/analysis/245269/Previewing-The-2014-Draft-Class-Extension-Market
Adrian WojnarowskiVerified account @wojespn 34m34 minutes ago
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Phoenix Suns forward TJ Warren has agreed to a four-year, $50M contract extension, league sources tell ESPN.
Interesting. No doubt this will be a reference point in the Marcus Smart negotiations. Is this the first guy to get an extension out of that class?
Also, I just saw this slightly scary prediction from RealGM https://basketball.realgm.com/analysis/245269/Previewing-The-2014-Draft-Class-Extension-Market
This article is from March and was based on 2016 free agent contracts. We saw an evening out of the player salaries from most teams this summer and doubt these numbers apply anymore. They are just too high for this very mediocre to poor draft class. If Smart can't inprove his shooting, he probably lands in TJ Warren contract territoryAdrian WojnarowskiVerified account @wojespn 34m34 minutes ago
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Phoenix Suns forward TJ Warren has agreed to a four-year, $50M contract extension, league sources tell ESPN.
Interesting. No doubt this will be a reference point in the Marcus Smart negotiations. Is this the first guy to get an extension out of that class?
Also, I just saw this slightly scary prediction from RealGM https://basketball.realgm.com/analysis/245269/Previewing-The-2014-Draft-Class-Extension-Market
update on IT's recoveryThat's a pretty big chunk of the season. If IT was still in green, I would feel like garbage about that. What's he going to look like after all that time off?
>The All-Star point guard, acquired from Boston this summer in a blockbuster trade, has made progress with his hip injury, and the Cavaliers expect him to be playing games by January. [...] Thomas doesn't need surgery.>
http://www.nba.com/article/2017/09/25/isaiah-thomas-cleveland-cavaliers-injury-return-january