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Title: Who will the Celtics draft with the top two picks in the 2018 draft?
Post by: PaulAllen on June 18, 2017, 12:34:12 AM
Thats for all you overreacting, non processing, with no linear thinking so called fans who want Ainge fired ...


...dropped the mic
Title: Re: Who will the Celtics draft with the top two picks in the 2018 draft?
Post by: max215 on June 18, 2017, 12:35:18 AM
If we end up with Doncic and Porter, that'd be pretty cool. The odds of that happening are well under 1%.
Title: Re: Who will the Celtics draft with the top two picks in the 2018 draft?
Post by: tarheelsxxiii on June 18, 2017, 12:36:56 AM
They'll be traded for three picks in 2019.
Title: Re: Who will the Celtics draft with the top two picks in the 2018 draft?
Post by: Mean Gerald Green on June 18, 2017, 12:40:09 AM
Porter and Ayton
Title: Re: Who will the Celtics draft with the top two picks in the 2018 draft?
Post by: gouki88 on June 18, 2017, 12:42:11 AM
Incredibly unlikely that we even get two top 5 picks, let alone the top 2. Knowing our luck, Brooklyn will end up with pick #5, and LAL will get #6 so instead we get Sacramento's pick next year. Which turns out to be #8
Title: Re: Who will the Celtics draft with the top two picks in the 2018 draft?
Post by: CelticsElite on June 18, 2017, 12:45:13 AM
I view it as 2 dice rolls for the top pick. I think Danny really likes porter jr, and is comfortable leaving with any of the top 4 elite prospects as concession prizes if it doesn't work out (ayton, doncic, bamba)
Title: Re: Who will the Celtics draft with the top two picks in the 2018 draft?
Post by: CelticsElite on June 18, 2017, 12:46:36 AM
If we end up with Doncic and Porter, that'd be pretty cool. The odds of that happening are well under 1%.
how are the odds of that happening under 1%? The nets were the worst team this year. Lakers 3rd worst team. The chances of getting 1 as of right now is significantly higher than 1%. Its higher than 25%
Title: Re: Who will the Celtics draft with the top two picks in the 2018 draft?
Post by: PhoSita on June 18, 2017, 12:47:58 AM
It's funny how the draft next year or the year after is always so much stronger than this year's draft.
Title: Re: Who will the Celtics draft with the top two picks in the 2018 draft?
Post by: max215 on June 18, 2017, 12:49:33 AM
It's funny how the draft next year or the year after is always so much stronger than this year's draft.

The draft next year is significantly inferior to the draft this year. I'll say that right now. The likely #1 pick (Luka Doncic) might be the best prospect out of the two drafts, but we've done absolutely nothing to increase our chances of getting him.
Title: Re: Who will the Celtics draft with the top two picks in the 2018 draft?
Post by: gouki88 on June 18, 2017, 12:49:48 AM
If we end up with Doncic and Porter, that'd be pretty cool. The odds of that happening are well under 1%.
how are the odds of that happening under 1%? The nets were the worst team this year. Lakers 3rd worst team. The chances of getting 1 as of right now is significantly higher than 1%. Its higher than 25%
Well we don't get the LA pick if it's #1, so there's that. Plus Brooklyn and/or LA may improve, we never know.

What we do know is that after years of trying, the one time we get the #1 we throw it away.
Title: Re: Who will the Celtics draft with the top two picks in the 2018 draft?
Post by: max215 on June 18, 2017, 12:50:11 AM
If we end up with Doncic and Porter, that'd be pretty cool. The odds of that happening are well under 1%.
how are the odds of that happening under 1%? The nets were the worst team this year. Lakers 3rd worst team. The chances of getting 1 as of right now is significantly higher than 1%. Its higher than 25%

It mathematically cannot possibly be higher than 25%.
Title: Re: Who will the Celtics draft with the top two picks in the 2018 draft?
Post by: gouki88 on June 18, 2017, 12:50:38 AM
It's funny how the draft next year or the year after is always so much stronger than this year's draft.
So much potential  ;)
Title: Re: Who will the Celtics draft with the top two picks in the 2018 draft?
Post by: Ilikesports17 on June 18, 2017, 12:51:00 AM
It's funny how the draft next year or the year after is always so much stronger than this year's draft.
I think that's a bit unfair.

No one really hyped '13, '14 was supposed to be awesome, '15 was supposed to have great big men but be much worse than '15, '16 was the Ben Simmons draft, and '17 was supposed to be really deep at the top. '18 is supposed to suck but be great at the top.

Most of those ended up correct.
Title: Re: Who will the Celtics draft with the top two picks in the 2018 draft?
Post by: CelticsElite on June 18, 2017, 12:52:52 AM
If we end up with Doncic and Porter, that'd be pretty cool. The odds of that happening are well under 1%.
how are the odds of that happening under 1%? The nets were the worst team this year. Lakers 3rd worst team. The chances of getting 1 as of right now is significantly higher than 1%. Its higher than 25%
Well we don't get the LA pick if it's #1, so there's that. Plus Brooklyn and/or LA may improve, we never know.

What we do know is that after years of trying, the one time we get the #1 we throw it away.
the Lakers won't be worst team. Nets and suns were way worse
Title: Re: Who will the Celtics draft with the top two picks in the 2018 draft?
Post by: CelticsElite on June 18, 2017, 12:53:47 AM
It's funny how the draft next year or the year after is always so much stronger than this year's draft.

The draft next year is significantly inferior to the draft this year. I'll say that right now. The likely #1 pick (Luka Doncic) might be the best prospect out of the two drafts, but we've done absolutely nothing to increase our chances of getting him.
the point isn't its better, but weluxury the luxury to roll dice twice now on a draft that has better prospects that aren't pure guards (we have 6)
Title: Re: Who will the Celtics draft with the top two picks in the 2018 draft?
Post by: max215 on June 18, 2017, 12:55:11 AM
It's funny how the draft next year or the year after is always so much stronger than this year's draft.

The draft next year is significantly inferior to the draft this year. I'll say that right now. The likely #1 pick (Luka Doncic) might be the best prospect out of the two drafts, but we've done absolutely nothing to increase our chances of getting him.
the point isn't its better, but weluxury the luxury to roll dice twice now on a draft that has better prospects that aren't pure guards (we have 6)

The guards on our roster are meaningless. Markelle Fultz was the leader of the next great Celtics team.
Title: Re: Who will the Celtics draft with the top two picks in the 2018 draft?
Post by: Ilikesports17 on June 18, 2017, 12:56:55 AM
If we end up with Doncic and Porter, that'd be pretty cool. The odds of that happening are well under 1%.
how are the odds of that happening under 1%? The nets were the worst team this year. Lakers 3rd worst team. The chances of getting 1 as of right now is significantly higher than 1%. Its higher than 25%
Well we don't get the LA pick if it's #1, so there's that. Plus Brooklyn and/or LA may improve, we never know.

What we do know is that after years of trying, the one time we get the #1 we throw it away.
the Lakers won't be worst team. Nets and suns were way worse
Pretty sure I read that they were the worst team in the NBA in games without Jrue Holiday.

That said, I agree. Don't see them finishing last.
Title: Re: Who will the Celtics draft with the top two picks in the 2018 draft?
Post by: CelticsElite on June 18, 2017, 01:21:00 AM
We are in a good spot in next year draft. That's for sure
Title: Re: Who will the Celtics draft with the top two picks in the 2018 draft?
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on June 18, 2017, 01:32:30 AM
We passed on the #1 overall pick. At this point, does it matter who we draft at #3?

We are obviously looking ahead for the 2018 draft.

Title: Re: Who will the Celtics draft with the top two picks in the 2018 draft?
Post by: Tr1boy on June 18, 2017, 01:36:37 AM
Best part about this situation is that the Lakers will be sweating all season...... It won't matter if they have the 10th worst record.  Until lottery night...Celtics will have them by the ...

Isn't this in itself amazing  ;D
Title: Re: Who will the Celtics draft with the top two picks in the 2018 draft?
Post by: Tr1boy on June 18, 2017, 01:38:27 AM
We passed on the #1 overall pick. At this point, does it matter who we draft at #3?

We are obviously looking ahead for the 2018 draft.

can you stop hanging out in the darkside

Lots of good things to like about the potential #3 picks.... they can all do a few things at an elite level

Considered blue chip prospects
Title: Re: Who will the Celtics draft with the top two picks in the 2018 draft?
Post by: Ilikesports17 on June 18, 2017, 01:38:51 AM
Best part about this situation is that the Lakers will be sweating all season...... It won't matter if they have the 10th worst record.  Until lottery night...Celtics will have them by the ...

Isn't this in itself amazing  ;D
The Celtics will be sweating just as much.
Title: Re: Who will the Celtics draft with the top two picks in the 2018 draft?
Post by: Tr1boy on June 18, 2017, 01:40:40 AM
Best part about this situation is that the Lakers will be sweating all season...... It won't matter if they have the 10th worst record.  Until lottery night...Celtics will have them by the ...

Isn't this in itself amazing  ;D
The Celtics will be sweating just as much.

why?   Worst case pick turns into the 2019 Kings pick.   Kings won't be good for a long time
Title: Re: Who will the Celtics draft with the top two picks in the 2018 draft?
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on June 18, 2017, 01:44:38 AM
We passed on the #1 overall pick. At this point, does it matter who we draft at #3?

We are obviously looking ahead for the 2018 draft.

can you stop hanging out in the darkside

Lots of good things to like about the potential #3 picks.... they can all do a few things at an elite level

Considered blue chip prospects

Fine.

I want us to draft Dennis Smith, Jr.

If we're gambling, then might as well go full "I need tuition for college so I'm going to Vegas and use all the money I have left" gamble.
Title: Re: Who will the Celtics draft with the top two picks in the 2018 draft?
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on June 18, 2017, 01:46:22 AM
Best part about this situation is that the Lakers will be sweating all season...... It won't matter if they have the 10th worst record.  Until lottery night...Celtics will have them by the ...

Isn't this in itself amazing  ;D
The Celtics will be sweating just as much.

why?   Worst case pick turns into the 2019 Kings pick.   Kings won't be good for a long time

Two years is a long freaking time.

I know it's the Kings, but if they hit jackpots on #5 and #10, that 2019 pick could turn ugly for us.
Title: Re: Who will the Celtics draft with the top two picks in the 2018 draft?
Post by: Tr1boy on June 18, 2017, 01:47:51 AM
We passed on the #1 overall pick. At this point, does it matter who we draft at #3?

We are obviously looking ahead for the 2018 draft.

can you stop hanging out in the darkside

Lots of good things to like about the potential #3 picks.... they can all do a few things at an elite level

Considered blue chip prospects

Fine.

I want us to draft Dennis Smith, Jr.

If we're gambling, then might as well go full "I need tuition for college so I'm going to Vegas and use all the money I have left" gamble.

you never know with Danny

He could trade the #3 for #5, #10 and a future Kings 1st

then pick Smith Jr. and Markkanen. 
Title: Re: Who will the Celtics draft with the top two picks in the 2018 draft?
Post by: Ilikesports17 on June 18, 2017, 01:47:57 AM
Best part about this situation is that the Lakers will be sweating all season...... It won't matter if they have the 10th worst record.  Until lottery night...Celtics will have them by the ...

Isn't this in itself amazing  ;D
The Celtics will be sweating just as much.

why?   Worst case pick turns into the 2019 Kings pick.   Kings won't be good for a long time
i don't think sac willl be good but I'm worried the pick trends closer to 10, which would be a bit of a bummer.
Title: Re: Who will the Celtics draft with the top two picks in the 2018 draft?
Post by: GreenEnvy on June 18, 2017, 01:54:44 AM
It's funny how the draft next year or the year after is always so much stronger than this year's draft.

The draft next year is significantly inferior to the draft this year. I'll say that right now. The likely #1 pick (Luka Doncic) might be the best prospect out of the two drafts, but we've done absolutely nothing to increase our chances of getting him.

If you're certain Doncic is going first, I'll be ecstatic to "settle" for Porter AND Ayton.
Title: Re: Who will the Celtics draft with the top two picks in the 2018 draft?
Post by: Tr1boy on June 18, 2017, 02:03:24 AM
Best part about this situation is that the Lakers will be sweating all season...... It won't matter if they have the 10th worst record.  Until lottery night...Celtics will have them by the ...

Isn't this in itself amazing  ;D
The Celtics will be sweating just as much.

why?   Worst case pick turns into the 2019 Kings pick.   Kings won't be good for a long time
i don't think sac willl be good but I'm worried the pick trends closer to 10, which would be a bit of a bummer.

they traded Cousins last year...Gay is not coming back.    They are starting from scratch.  Infancy stage

Look at the 76ers and Wolves...how many years were they in the basement before they started to win a game or two

I'm confident its going to take a while
Title: Re: Who will the Celtics draft with the top two picks in the 2018 draft?
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on June 18, 2017, 02:03:55 AM
We passed on the #1 overall pick. At this point, does it matter who we draft at #3?

We are obviously looking ahead for the 2018 draft.

can you stop hanging out in the darkside

Lots of good things to like about the potential #3 picks.... they can all do a few things at an elite level

Considered blue chip prospects

Fine.

I want us to draft Dennis Smith, Jr.

If we're gambling, then might as well go full "I need tuition for college so I'm going to Vegas and use all the money I have left" gamble.

you never know with Danny

He could trade the #3 for #5, #10 and a future Kings 1st

then pick Smith Jr. and Markkanen.

This is NEVER GOING TO HAPPEN.

The Kings just saw the Sixers take the #1 pick for the #3 and a protected Lakers pick. Why wouild they give up more value than the Sixers give the #1 overall for a much inferior asset?

They can be dumb, but they're not this dumb.
Title: Re: Who will the Celtics draft with the top two picks in the 2018 draft?
Post by: Beat LA on June 18, 2017, 02:26:09 AM
They'll be traded for three picks in 2019.

Lol ;D, beat me to describing a similar scenario.  TP. 
Title: Re: Who will the Celtics draft with the top two picks in the 2018 draft?
Post by: Beat LA on June 18, 2017, 02:27:54 AM
We passed on the #1 overall pick. At this point, does it matter who we draft at #3?

We are obviously looking ahead for the 2018 draft.

can you stop hanging out in the darkside

Lots of good things to like about the potential #3 picks.... they can all do a few things at an elite level

Considered blue chip prospects

Fine.

I want us to draft Dennis Smith, Jr.

If we're gambling, then might as well go full "I need tuition for college so I'm going to Vegas and use all the money I have left" gamble.

you never know with Danny

He could trade the #3 for #5, #10 and a future Kings 1st

then pick Smith Jr. and Markkanen.

This is NEVER GOING TO HAPPEN.

The Kings just saw the Sixers take the #1 pick for the #3 and a protected Lakers pick. Why wouild they give up more value than the Sixers give the #1 overall for a much inferior asset?

They can be dumb, but they're not this dumb.

What about 3 for 5, 10, and 34 in this year's draft?  Would they do that?
Title: Re: Who will the Celtics draft with the top two picks in the 2018 draft?
Post by: PhoSita on June 18, 2017, 02:54:24 AM
Ainge will trade down for more picks in 2019 and 2020.
Title: Re: Who will the Celtics draft with the top two picks in the 2018 draft?
Post by: CelticsElite on June 25, 2017, 12:20:43 AM
Pic of Ainge scouting one of Mr "almost 8 foot wing span" for 2018

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C876vjsU0AAYyU4.jpg:large)

The ainge wingspan draft theory continues
Title: Re: Who will the Celtics draft with the top two picks in the 2018 draft?
Post by: Tr1boy on June 25, 2017, 12:34:46 AM
Thats for all you overreacting, non processing, with no linear thinking so called fans who want Ainge fired ...


...dropped the mic

hoping for one of bamba or ayton....its time the Celts to pick up a legit big player

i'm not sold on Porter Jr.    ... He can shoot and is 6'10 but has poor handles, avg passing skills. Defensively he needs to tighten up his footwork to be able to stay in front of quicker player.

Doncic is slow ... offensively he will present some problems for smaller, dumber defenders....but defensively he is going to have issues against nba quickness/explosiveness

I bet also one or two of these 5-10 prospects are going to climb up the board ...  Its a strong PF/C draft
Title: Re: Who will the Celtics draft with the top two picks in the 2018 draft?
Post by: OldSchoolDude on June 25, 2017, 12:38:10 AM
As a notorious IT hater, I hope one of them is Luka Doncic, since he can play point and he's 6'7.  The other pick can be any one of Porter, Ayton, or Bamba. 
Title: Re: Who will the Celtics draft with the top two picks in the 2018 draft?
Post by: Tr1boy on June 25, 2017, 12:43:39 AM
As a notorious IT hater, I hope one of them is Luka Doncic, since he can play point and he's 6'7.  The other pick can be any one of Porter, Ayton, or Bamba.

How is Doncic going to handle/stay in front of Irving/Currys of the world??

Also from what i have seen of Doncic so far...he tends to be pass happy vs scoring some points/driving in finishing around the basket.  He can shoot and has a high iq.   Just haven't seen much killer instincts/alpha dog from him
Title: Re: Who will the Celtics draft with the top two picks in the 2018 draft?
Post by: GreenEnvy on June 25, 2017, 12:53:39 AM
This draft was touted as Fultz, Ball, Tatum, Jackson.

The next consists of Porter, Ayton, Doncic, Bamba.

If we have a choice of two, I'll be ecstatic.

Personally, I'd take Porter and Ayton.
Title: Re: Who will the Celtics draft with the top two picks in the 2018 draft?
Post by: gouki88 on June 25, 2017, 12:57:54 AM
As a notorious IT hater, I hope one of them is Luka Doncic, since he can play point and he's 6'7.  The other pick can be any one of Porter, Ayton, or Bamba.

How is Doncic going to handle/stay in front of Irving/Currys of the world??

Also from what i have seen of Doncic so far...he tends to be pass happy vs scoring some points/driving in finishing around the basket.  He can shoot and has a high iq.   Just haven't seen much killer instincts/alpha dog from him
He can't be any worse at that than IT can he  ;D

I think that in part may be due to him playing for Madrid, one of the top teams outside of the NBA, more than anything. It's probably part of the gameplan more than anything, as he's dishing to quite a few former NBA players.
Title: Re: Who will the Celtics draft with the top two picks in the 2018 draft?
Post by: OldSchoolDude on June 25, 2017, 01:08:10 AM
As a notorious IT hater, I hope one of them is Luka Doncic, since he can play point and he's 6'7.  The other pick can be any one of Porter, Ayton, or Bamba.

How is Doncic going to handle/stay in front of Irving/Currys of the world??

Also from what i have seen of Doncic so far...he tends to be pass happy vs scoring some points/driving in finishing around the basket.  He can shoot and has a high iq.   Just haven't seen much killer instincts/alpha dog from him

This video shows him staying in front of Westbrook, so I think he'll do just fine against the Irving/Currys of the world.  Oh, and he is 17 in the video and a starter and a key player for Real Madrid's A team. 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9sPxV4YGNa0
Title: Re: Who will the Celtics draft with the top two picks in the 2018 draft?
Post by: loco_91 on June 26, 2017, 11:22:01 AM
If we get Doncic, I don't care who else we pick. My guess for next year's top 4 is that it will go Doncic-Ayton-Porter-Bamba. Doncic will be the second coming of Magic Johnson, Bamba will be a Gobert clone, and Ayton and Porter will be decent players but not stars.
Title: Re: Who will the Celtics draft with the top two picks in the 2018 draft?
Post by: PaulAllen on June 26, 2017, 11:28:53 AM
As of right now Porter and Ayton look like the real thing ...
everyone is is pretty far behind ..
Bomba could be special but I think he needs to add lots of mudcle
Carter looks the most ready and is a sleeper
Title: Re: Who will the Celtics draft with the top two picks in the 2018 draft?
Post by: greece66 on June 26, 2017, 11:29:42 AM
It's funny how the draft next year or the year after is always so much stronger than this year's draft.

I came here to make the same comment lol

Next year's draft is always the best.
Title: Re: Who will the Celtics draft with the top two picks in the 2018 draft?
Post by: coffee425 on June 26, 2017, 11:46:37 AM
Porter and Ayton
two most versatile offensive players

Doncic and Bamba
best playmaker and best defensive prospect.

Title: Re: Who will the Celtics draft with the top two picks in the 2018 draft?
Post by: SparzWizard on June 26, 2017, 11:48:14 AM
It's funny how the draft next year or the year after is always so much stronger than this year's draft.

I came here to make the same comment lol

Next year's draft is always the best.

They been saying that since the Andrew Wiggins/Jabari Parker/Joel Embiid draft.
Title: Re: Who will the Celtics draft with the top two picks in the 2018 draft?
Post by: GreenShooter on June 26, 2017, 11:49:32 AM
Just draft Marvin Bagley and wait a year :)
Title: Re: Who will the Celtics draft with the top two picks in the 2018 draft?
Post by: Roy H. on June 26, 2017, 11:51:38 AM
I view it as 2 dice rolls for the top pick. I think Danny really likes porter jr, and is comfortable leaving with any of the top 4 elite prospects as concession prizes if it doesn't work out (ayton, doncic, bamba)

We've only got one dice roll for the #1 pick, via BRK.

The LAL / SAC pick doesn't convey to us if it's first overall.
Title: Re: Who will the Celtics draft with the top two picks in the 2018 draft?
Post by: Ilikesports17 on June 26, 2017, 11:52:43 AM
It's funny how the draft next year or the year after is always so much stronger than this year's draft.

I came here to make the same comment lol

Next year's draft is always the best.
Not really true.

Each draft has its characteristics that get pushed hard from a year or so before.

2013(iirc) was never hyped.

2014 was supposed to be awesome with a lot of star potential guys and superstar prospects in Wiggins and Parker. A year before that draft people were getting really excited about Wiggins Parker Smart and Randle. That draft was still seen as an elite draft up through draft nigh.

2015 was supposed to be the big man draft. Okafor, towns and Turner. It remained the big man draft with 3 bigs going in the first 4 picks.

2016 was the Ben Simmons draft. He was the prize and he remained the prize.

2017 was supposed to be stacked and deep, with an unreal freshman class. This remained the take on the draft through today. Draft set record for freshman taken at the top and according to fords tiers it's the deepest draft at the top since they started tracking tiers.

Next year's draft had been seen as crazy top heavy. A five player draft. Let's see if it pans out that way.
Title: Re: Who will the Celtics draft with the top two picks in the 2018 draft?
Post by: KG Living Legend on June 26, 2017, 12:37:14 PM
It's funny how the draft next year or the year after is always so much stronger than this year's draft.

The draft next year is significantly inferior to the draft this year. I'll say that right now. The likely #1 pick (Luka Doncic) might be the best prospect out of the two drafts, but we've done absolutely nothing to increase our chances of getting him.




 The #1 pick right now is Michael Porter JR.
Title: Re: Who will the Celtics draft with the top two picks in the 2018 draft?
Post by: Smokeeye123 on June 26, 2017, 12:51:30 PM
Trade Horford and #1 and #2 for Davis.

Davis
George
Tatum
Brown
IT

= Banner 18
Title: Re: Who will the Celtics draft with the top two picks in the 2018 draft?
Post by: jakeopp on June 26, 2017, 01:00:25 PM
As a notorious IT hater, I hope one of them is Luka Doncic, since he can play point and he's 6'7.  The other pick can be any one of Porter, Ayton, or Bamba.

How is Doncic going to handle/stay in front of Irving/Currys of the world??

Also from what i have seen of Doncic so far...he tends to be pass happy vs scoring some points/driving in finishing around the basket.  He can shoot and has a high iq.   Just haven't seen much killer instincts/alpha dog from him

This video shows him staying in front of Westbrook, so I think he'll do just fine against the Irving/Currys of the world.  Oh, and he is 17 in the video and a starter and a key player for Real Madrid's A team. 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9sPxV4YGNa0

Yeah he definitely didn't look out of place in this video. He was everywhere on offense, passing ability is elite already. Definitely didn't look "too slow." Even blocked Enes Kanter it looked like on one play lol.
Title: Re: Who will the Celtics draft with the top two picks in the 2018 draft?
Post by: GreenShooter on June 26, 2017, 01:26:45 PM
Doncic played in the toughest pro league other than NBA. Kids his age, no matter how talented, rarely get the minutes he did. He more than held his own. If he dominates this year and shows more athletic ability/explosiveness then he will challenge for the No.1 pick. I just think his lack of size is only thing keeping him from being consensus right now.If he was 6'9 or bigger then forget about it. Therefore, if the C's get lucky again, they'll trade down to 2 or 3 again (barring LAL pick falling in same range). I think it's going to be the 2019 pick we will need to keep an eye on as I don't see LAL being the bottom feeder they've lately, unless they get lucky for us in the lottery. Just too many teams blowing it up & turning to young players knowing they have no chance but to build through the draft for now. I can't wait for the initial FA/trade season to be over so I can make up a power rankings list to see exactly where we may stand as far as the LAL team is concerned. Not worried at all about Brooklyn improving this year so they'll again be a lock for a top 5 pick.
Title: Re: Who will the Celtics draft with the top two picks in the 2018 draft?
Post by: CELTICSofBOSTON on June 26, 2017, 01:32:32 PM
Imagine the future trio of:

Michael Porter Jr.
Jayson Tatum
Jaylen Brown
Title: Re: Who will the Celtics draft with the top two picks in the 2018 draft?
Post by: gouki88 on June 26, 2017, 01:48:30 PM
Imagine the future trio of:

Michael Porter Jr.
Jayson Tatum
Jaylen Brown
You mean the Awesome Foursome of:

DeAndre Ayton
Michael Porter Jr.
Jayson Tatum
Jaylen Brown

right?  ;D
Title: Re: Who will the Celtics draft with the top two picks in the 2018 draft?
Post by: hwangjini_1 on June 26, 2017, 02:32:04 PM
Incredibly unlikely that we even get two top 5 picks, let alone the top 2. Knowing our luck, Brooklyn will end up with pick #5, and LAL will get #6 so instead we get Sacramento's pick next year. Which turns out to be #8
based upon the latest lottery, knowing our luck the celtics do get #1 and #2. you cant get any luckier than the celtics just did. so to somehow invoke bad luck as a historical constant makes no sense.
Title: Re: Who will the Celtics draft with the top two picks in the 2018 draft?
Post by: Ilikesports17 on June 26, 2017, 02:40:14 PM
If this draft remains the 4 player draft it's pegged to be (it won't) and we get 2 top 4 picks (we won't) then id like 1 perimeter guy and 1 big. Who it is, I don't much care.
Title: Re: Who will the Celtics draft with the top two picks in the 2018 draft?
Post by: gouki88 on June 26, 2017, 02:42:51 PM
Incredibly unlikely that we even get two top 5 picks, let alone the top 2. Knowing our luck, Brooklyn will end up with pick #5, and LAL will get #6 so instead we get Sacramento's pick next year. Which turns out to be #8
based upon the latest lottery, knowing our luck the celtics do get #1 and #2. you cant get any luckier than the celtics just did. so to somehow invoke bad luck as a historical constant makes no sense.
Let me reverse jinx in peace  ;D

I've talked about Celtic bad luck to friends prior to the last two drafts and we've done pretty darn well, so I'm (forgive me) Trusting the Process  ;)
Title: Re: Who will the Celtics draft with the top two picks in the 2018 draft?
Post by: OldSchoolDude on June 26, 2017, 03:50:06 PM
Doncic played in the toughest pro league other than NBA. Kids his age, no matter how talented, rarely get the minutes he did. He more than held his own. If he dominates this year and shows more athletic ability/explosiveness then he will challenge for the No.1 pick. I just think his lack of size is only thing keeping him from being consensus right now.If he was 6'9 or bigger then forget about it. Therefore, if the C's get lucky again, they'll trade down to 2 or 3 again (barring LAL pick falling in same range). I think it's going to be the 2019 pick we will need to keep an eye on as I don't see LAL being the bottom feeder they've lately, unless they get lucky for us in the lottery. Just too many teams blowing it up & turning to young players knowing they have no chance but to build through the draft for now. I can't wait for the initial FA/trade season to be over so I can make up a power rankings list to see exactly where we may stand as far as the LAL team is concerned. Not worried at all about Brooklyn improving this year so they'll again be a lock for a top 5 pick.

He's a 6'7 point guard, that's awesome hight. 
Title: Re: Who will the Celtics draft with the top two picks in the 2018 draft?
Post by: OldSchoolDude on June 26, 2017, 04:22:37 PM
Doncic and Porter are at the top of our unofficial draft board for 2018.

http://www.masslive.com/celtics/index.ssf/2017/06/boston_celtics_draft_2018_big.html


Title: Re: Who will the Celtics draft with the top two picks in the 2018 draft?
Post by: gouki88 on June 26, 2017, 04:27:09 PM
Doncic and Porter are at the top of our unofficial draft board for 2018.

http://www.masslive.com/celtics/index.ssf/2017/06/boston_celtics_draft_2018_big.html
I doubt DA could go past these big men prospects (or I hope he can't).
Title: Re: Who will the Celtics draft with the top two picks in the 2018 draft?
Post by: blackbird on June 26, 2017, 04:34:55 PM
Sorry, but we can't get the Lakers pick next year. Levar Ball already spoke into existence that they are making the playoffs.
Title: Re: Who will the Celtics draft with the top two picks in the 2018 draft?
Post by: clevelandceltic on June 26, 2017, 05:43:24 PM
I dont think they would take both players if they got the top 2 picks. I think they would trade one of those picks.
Title: Re: Who will the Celtics draft with the top two picks in the 2018 draft?
Post by: GreenShooter on June 27, 2017, 06:59:53 AM
Doncic played in the toughest pro league other than NBA. Kids his age, no matter how talented, rarely get the minutes he did. He more than held his own. If he dominates this year and shows more athletic ability/explosiveness then he will challenge for the No.1 pick. I just think his lack of size is only thing keeping him from being consensus right now.If he was 6'9 or bigger then forget about it. Therefore, if the C's get lucky again, they'll trade down to 2 or 3 again (barring LAL pick falling in same range). I think it's going to be the 2019 pick we will need to keep an eye on as I don't see LAL being the bottom feeder they've lately, unless they get lucky for us in the lottery. Just too many teams blowing it up & turning to young players knowing they have no chance but to build through the draft for now. I can't wait for the initial FA/trade season to be over so I can make up a power rankings list to see exactly where we may stand as far as the LAL team is concerned. Not worried at all about Brooklyn improving this year so they'll again be a lock for a top 5 pick.

He's a 6'7 point guard, that's awesome hight.
I've watched several videos of Doncic. He's 6'6 tops. He looks like a guard. I've seen where he's listed as 6'8. Doesn't really matter much. Just didn't want people to expect a Jayson Tatum-sized SG. That's all fine as he could grow as he's just turned 18 a few months ago.
Title: Re: Who will the Celtics draft with the top two picks in the 2018 draft?
Post by: Tr1boy on June 27, 2017, 07:09:36 AM
Bamba or Ayton
Title: Re: Who will the Celtics draft with the top two picks in the 2018 draft?
Post by: saltlover on June 27, 2017, 07:35:14 AM
I think Brad would love having the ability to put out the following lineup:

Doncic
Brown
Tatum
Crowder
Porter Jr.

It'd be his positionless basketball dream.
Title: Re: Who will the Celtics draft with the top two picks in the 2018 draft?
Post by: GreenShooter on June 27, 2017, 09:12:51 AM
I think Brad would love having the ability to put out the following lineup:

Doncic
Brown
Tatum
Crowder
Porter Jr.

It'd be his positionless basketball dream.
Doncic is not a PG and will not be one at the NBA level. Not sure who will play the point on the above team. No real high level ball handler in that group, not even as good as Marcus or Avery.
Title: Re: Who will the Celtics draft with the top two picks in the 2018 draft?
Post by: CelticsElite on July 13, 2017, 03:14:44 PM
I think Brad would love having the ability to put out the following lineup:

Doncic
Brown
Tatum
Crowder
Porter Jr.

It'd be his positionless basketball dream.
Doncic is not a PG and will not be one at the NBA level. Not sure who will play the point on the above team. No real high level ball handler in that group, not even as good as Marcus or Avery.
how is doncic not a PG. his best skill seems to be passing
Title: Re: Who will the Celtics draft with the top two picks in the 2018 draft?
Post by: Tr1boy on July 13, 2017, 03:35:04 PM
Bamba and Ayton

Return of the twin towers.
Title: Re: Who will the Celtics draft with the top two picks in the 2018 draft?
Post by: Tr1boy on July 13, 2017, 03:36:08 PM
I think Brad would love having the ability to put out the following lineup:

Doncic
Brown
Tatum
Crowder
Porter Jr.

It'd be his positionless basketball dream.
Doncic is not a PG and will not be one at the NBA level. Not sure who will play the point on the above team. No real high level ball handler in that group, not even as good as Marcus or Avery.
how is doncic not a PG. his best skill seems to be passing

Bc he is slowwww

Wouldnt be surprised if he becomes Rubio part 2

Remember how Legendary they made Rubio sound prior to the draft
Title: Re: Who will the Celtics draft with the top two picks in the 2018 draft?
Post by: CelticsElite on July 13, 2017, 03:40:20 PM
I think Brad would love having the ability to put out the following lineup:

Doncic
Brown
Tatum
Crowder
Porter Jr.

It'd be his positionless basketball dream.
Doncic is not a PG and will not be one at the NBA level. Not sure who will play the point on the above team. No real high level ball handler in that group, not even as good as Marcus or Avery.
how is doncic not a PG. his best skill seems to be passing

Bc he is slowwww

Wouldnt be surprised if he becomes Rubio part 2

Remember how Legendary they made Rubio sound prior to the draft
haha true. But you never know.
Title: Re: Who will the Celtics draft with the top two picks in the 2018 draft?
Post by: saltlover on July 13, 2017, 03:55:16 PM
I think Brad would love having the ability to put out the following lineup:

Doncic
Brown
Tatum
Crowder
Porter Jr.

It'd be his positionless basketball dream.
Doncic is not a PG and will not be one at the NBA level. Not sure who will play the point on the above team. No real high level ball handler in that group, not even as good as Marcus or Avery.
how is doncic not a PG. his best skill seems to be passing

Bc he is slowwww

Wouldnt be surprised if he becomes Rubio part 2

Remember how Legendary they made Rubio sound prior to the draft

Doncic, in his first season in Euroleague during which he turned 18, scored more points, had more rebounds, an equal amount of assists, and shot much more efficiently (about 10 percentage points better from 2 and 3) as Rubio did in his first 3 seasons, through the age of 19.  And Doncic has about 4 inches on Rubio.

Doncic blows Rubio out of the water -- they're just not comparable.  If I had to pick an NBA player who's game is most similar to Doncic, I'd pick Hayward, ironically.  Except he's so far ahead of Hayward at the same age you can't compare them either.  A do-it-all forward who doesn't have the elite size and athleticism of a LeBron or Kawhi, but is very skilled.  And given his age, neither Doncic's size nor athleticism is remotely a finished product.  But his skill is unparalleled at his age.
Title: Re: Who will the Celtics draft with the top two picks in the 2018 draft?
Post by: Tr1boy on July 13, 2017, 03:56:28 PM
I think Brad would love having the ability to put out the following lineup:

Doncic
Brown
Tatum
Crowder
Porter Jr.

It'd be his positionless basketball dream.
Doncic is not a PG and will not be one at the NBA level. Not sure who will play the point on the above team. No real high level ball handler in that group, not even as good as Marcus or Avery.
how is doncic not a PG. his best skill seems to be passing

Bc he is slowwww

Wouldnt be surprised if he becomes Rubio part 2

Remember how Legendary they made Rubio sound prior to the draft
haha true. But you never know.

If he turns out to be Petrovic or Manu...

But both of these guys could score. Manu is mr clutch
Title: Re: Who will the Celtics draft with the top two picks in the 2018 draft?
Post by: CELTICSofBOSTON on July 13, 2017, 03:58:53 PM
one of them has to be Ayton.

the other is Michael Porter Jr.  Unfortunately, it is very unlikely that Bagley joins the class.
Title: Re: Who will the Celtics draft with the top two picks in the 2018 draft?
Post by: jay on July 13, 2017, 04:00:23 PM
We end up getting picks 5,6.  Ainge trys to trade up but no one will deal.

We get Collin Sexton and Wendell Carter.
Title: Re: Who will the Celtics draft with the top two picks in the 2018 draft?
Post by: Tr1boy on July 13, 2017, 04:03:48 PM
one of them has to be Ayton.

the other is Michael Porter Jr.  Unfortunately, it is very unlikely that Bagley joins the class.

Why ?

Well if not we can pick him with the 2019 pick

Bagley and Barrett are sick
Title: Re: Who will the Celtics draft with the top two picks in the 2018 draft?
Post by: CelticsElite on July 13, 2017, 04:06:41 PM
one of them has to be Ayton.

the other is Michael Porter Jr.  Unfortunately, it is very unlikely that Bagley joins the class.

Why ?

Well if not we can pick him with the 2019 pick

Bagley and Barrett are sick
we don't have a 2019 pick unless the lakers do good. Lol
Title: Re: Who will the Celtics draft with the top two picks in the 2018 draft?
Post by: clevelandceltic on July 13, 2017, 04:13:14 PM
I think it would be Bamba and Porter. Both have been long time Team USA players. Bamba is highly intellegent. I think Ayton will have to prove alot this year for Ainge to take him. Mainly in the work ethic department. Dont have an opinion on how he would feel about Doncic.

Just some quick thoughts.
Title: Re: Who will the Celtics draft with the top two picks in the 2018 draft?
Post by: CelticsElite on July 16, 2017, 03:09:59 PM
I think bamba could be underrated. If he comes out guns blazing in college and ayton still has this motor issues, bamba should stay in front of him in mocks
Title: Re: Who will the Celtics draft with the top two picks in the 2018 draft?
Post by: green_bballers13 on July 16, 2017, 03:17:24 PM
Sign me up for Bamba, Ayton, Porter, or Robert Williams.

I'm less enthused by Doncic, mainly because he doesn't seem that explosive. He appears to have a polished offensive game. Don't we already have a similar player in Hayward?

I'd normally say pick BPA, but I really don't think the Celtics need another 6'7/6'8 player.
Title: Re: Who will the Celtics draft with the top two picks in the 2018 draft?
Post by: CELTICSofBOSTON on July 16, 2017, 03:34:31 PM
I've actually read that Bamba has serious motor issues as well.  Like Ayton, he does not consistently play hard.

He also gets injured frequently according to his profile on DraftExpress.

I want Ayton and Bagley iii if possible.

Then Michael Porter Jr.
Then Bamba.

I don't like Doncic as much as most people here.
Title: Re: Who will the Celtics draft with the top two picks in the 2018 draft?
Post by: BigDogPitbull on July 16, 2017, 04:56:11 PM
Ayton
Title: Re: Who will the Celtics draft with the top two picks in the 2018 draft?
Post by: Tr1boy on July 16, 2017, 04:59:05 PM
I will grateful if one of the nets/lakers picks land in the top 5

BPA

we could use a big player to take over Horfords spot in 2 years though
Title: Re: Who will the Celtics draft with the top two picks in the 2018 draft?
Post by: PAOBoston on July 16, 2017, 05:02:25 PM
Honest to god truth is I'd be ecstatic with any sort of combination of the aforementioned prospects should the Cs be lucky enough to get two top 5 picks.

In a perfect world, they would draft a big and a wing for me.

Ainge is going to look like an effing genius is he somehow comes up with Brown/Tatum/Porter/Ayton after 3 years of drafting. 4 legit blue chip prospects on the roster without tanking. And imagine if all those guys actually pan out too? They have to add a statue of Ainge next to Red.
Title: Re: Who will the Celtics draft with the top two picks in the 2018 draft?
Post by: Hank Finkel on July 16, 2017, 05:14:00 PM
I will grateful if one of the nets/lakers picks land in the top 5

BPA

we could use a big player to take over Horfords spot in 2 years though
Exactly,  Horford has one or two good years left.  We need someone to be ready to replace him. The sooner the better
Title: Re: Who will the Celtics draft with the top two picks in the 2018 draft?
Post by: Dino Pitino on July 16, 2017, 05:36:47 PM
I'd want them to trade down from 1 & 2 to 3 & 4 or 4 & 5 because they see little separation between the top 5 and they get two extra top 1sts in 2019/2020.  8)
Title: Re: Who will the Celtics draft with the top two picks in the 2018 draft?
Post by: mef730 on July 16, 2017, 05:51:39 PM
one of them has to be Ayton.

the other is Michael Porter Jr.  Unfortunately, it is very unlikely that Bagley joins the class.

Why ?

Well if not we can pick him with the 2019 pick

Bagley and Barrett are sick
we don't have a 2019 pick unless the lakers do good. Lol

And even if they do, we still won't have a top 2019 pick because we won't get SAC's pick if it comes in at #1. If Bagley doesn't come out this year, we have virtually no chance of getting him next year, except in the very unlikely scenario where SAC gives us the #2 pick and somebody is good enough to get selected before Bagley.

Mike
Title: Re: Who will the Celtics draft with the top two picks in the 2018 draft?
Post by: JHTruth on July 16, 2017, 06:24:32 PM
Sign me up for Bamba, Ayton, Porter, or Robert Williams.

I'm less enthused by Doncic, mainly because he doesn't seem that explosive. He appears to have a polished offensive game. Don't we already have a similar player in Hayward?

I'd normally say pick BPA, but I really don't think the Celtics need another 6'7/6'8 player.

Doncic would be more a long term replacement for IT. My guess we'll gun for one of Bagley or Porter, and then Doncic.

That would give us a long term starting 5 of Doncic/Brown/Tatum/Bagley or Porter/Zizic
Title: Re: Who will the Celtics draft with the top two picks in the 2018 draft?
Post by: CelticsElite on July 16, 2017, 06:35:25 PM
one of them has to be Ayton.

the other is Michael Porter Jr.  Unfortunately, it is very unlikely that Bagley joins the class.

Why ?

Well if not we can pick him with the 2019 pick

Bagley and Barrett are sick
we don't have a 2019 pick unless the lakers do good. Lol

And even if they do, we still won't have a top 2019 pick because we won't get SAC's pick if it comes in at #1. If Bagley doesn't come out this year, we have virtually no chance of getting him next year, except in the very unlikely scenario where SAC gives us the #2 pick and somebody is good enough to get selected before Bagley.

Mike
true but these mocks always change. I think Dennis smith and josh Jackson were #1 back and forth before the season started last year. You can see how things change with hype. Fultz had a good year so he had a lot of hype
Title: Re: Who will the Celtics draft with the top two picks in the 2018 draft?
Post by: GreenShooter on July 21, 2017, 09:45:34 AM
Some people on here are underselling Porter. He'll be the best player in the draft (after Bagley :) )
This could be our chance to be the GSW of the East, if we can somehow land those two beasts.
I like Bamba and Ayton but I'd take Porter and Bagley first without question. I'm a BIG Bagley fan.
Title: Re: Who will the Celtics draft with the top two picks in the 2018 draft?
Post by: Atzar on July 21, 2017, 10:08:27 AM
Bagley & trade.

Plenty of time to change my mind, but I'm not as high on these other potential top picks as most people seem to be.  But Bagley looks like a monster.
Title: Re: Who will the Celtics draft with the top two picks in the 2018 draft?
Post by: JHTruth on July 21, 2017, 11:03:03 AM
Some people on here are underselling Porter. He'll be the best player in the draft (after Bagley :) )
This could be our chance to be the GSW of the East, if we can somehow land those two beasts.
I like Bamba and Ayton but I'd take Porter and Bagley first without question. I'm a BIG Bagley fan.

I'll take EITHER Porter or Bagley and then Doncic. Doncic/Brown/Tatum/Bagley or Porter/Zizic looks unstoppable to me.

Bench of Rozier/Nader/Yabu/Theis?
Title: Re: Who will the Celtics draft with the top two picks in the 2018 draft?
Post by: CelticsElite on July 22, 2017, 01:52:29 AM
We are so loaded with talent it doesn't matter who we get out of the top 5. We will come out winning as long as we get 1. Love all 5. If we can somehow get 3 of them that would be great lol

Title: Re: Who will the Celtics draft with the top two picks in the 2018 draft?
Post by: CelticsElite on July 22, 2017, 01:57:32 AM
one of them has to be Ayton.

the other is Michael Porter Jr.  Unfortunately, it is very unlikely that Bagley joins the class.
why is it unlikely? Bagley is taking summer courses for the purpose of joining the class. Andre Drummond did this very same thing