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Other Discussions => Off Topic => Games / Gambling / Fantasy Sports => Topic started by: Eja117 on May 12, 2017, 11:32:58 AM
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First trade of off season and I believe I have changed the spreadsheet correctly
Y'all Hate receives from Dirty Disciples
Monta Ellis
Tony Parker
Picks 20,23,40
Dirty Disciples receives from Y'all Hate
Ben McLemore
Dante Exum
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1spHa96xNsAfynx2ncu_Rrj3FFe8OvbaaPGvGipjotrk/edit#gid=1547713434
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interesting trade.
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What do you think D?
Hill is a FA... and when G.H. Signs with us Utah will go into full rebuild and Exum will play nasty defense and work on being a descent 10 point, 6 Assist and 4.5 rebounds a game..... LOL.
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What do you think D?
Hill is a FA... and when G.H. Signs with us Utah will go into full rebuild and Exum will play nasty defense and work on being a descent 10 point, 6 Assist and 4.5 rebounds a game..... LOL.
My biggest fear was that Hill would sign elsewhere opening the door to big minutes for Exum (or conversely, a trade of Exum allowing big minutes).
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Hill is going back back to the Spurs.... just kidding, i have no clue... He should anyway. When has he been a FA? When he signed with ATL, or did he get traded there?
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interesting trade.
At first I thought Diggles got crushed in this trade, but now I am with you. It's just plain interesting to me
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Sometimes I post more than once. Makes it easier for me to find
Toine's Boys sends TB's 2018 2nd
Y'all Hate sends 2017 #26 pick
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Toines Boys receive 2017 #10 pick.
Toine's Boys trade #26 pick and gives Gainesville the right to swap 2018 1sts with TB
Interesting. I will have a tad more to say about this soon. We've never done this that I'm aware of but I don't think we have a rule against it.
I don't have a big problem with it per se. I just want to make sure we're on the same page.
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Toines Boys receive 2017 #10 pick.
Toine's Boys trade #26 pick and gives Gainesville the right to swap 2018 1sts with TB
Interesting. I will have a tad more to say about this soon. We've never done this that I'm aware of but I don't think we have a rule against it.
I think we have done swaps before. It's been a while. I may be mixing up the H2H league.
This is an interesting gamble by GC. It's possible that GC ends up with one of the elite 2018 prospects. For that, it's worth the gamble. At the same time, there will be at least one really good prospect available at #10 this fall.
Mk
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Just thinking out loud.
I like the league to be as NBAish as possible (in a manner of speaking) partly for simplicity and whatnot.
My research tells me a major reason pick swaps happen is that there is a rule in the NBA that a team can't trade first rounders in consecutive years. So that's why the Celts and Nets pick swapped this year. The Nets COULDN'T trade their pick this year, because the Celts got their picks last year and next. But they could swap.
I care not.
However....to point out...this is why there was/is no danger at all of the Nets trading away a swap righted pick (and really the Celts couldn't either.)
If Toines and Gains do this they have to keep their picks for the year right? Like Gains can't trade to someone the right to swap with Toines. By the same token Toines can't trade something or other ....like say to the guy right above Gains thinking "that's where I'll pick anyway"
Like the picks have to be kept and untraded until final standings/lottery takes place and the trade activates or expires.
Then they could conceivably trade their newly acquired (or kept) pick should they want to.
Right?
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Just thinking out loud.
I like the league to be as NBAish as possible (in a manner of speaking) partly for simplicity and whatnot.
My research tells me a major reason pick swaps happen is that there is a rule in the NBA that a team can't trade first rounders in consecutive years. So that's why the Celts and Nets pick swapped this year. The Nets COULDN'T trade their pick this year, because the Celts got their picks last year and next. But they could swap.
I care not.
However....to point out...this is why there was/is no danger at all of the Nets trading away a swap righted pick (and really the Celts couldn't either.)
If Toines and Gains do this they have to keep their picks for the year right? Like Gains can't trade to someone the right to swap with Toines. By the same token Toines can't trade something or other ....like say to the guy right above Gains thinking "that's where I'll pick anyway"
Like the picks have to be kept and untraded until final standings/lottery takes place and the trade activates or expires.
Then they could conceivably trade their newly acquired (or kept) pick should they want to.
Right?
I'm good with that explanation. I'm happy with not trading my/GCs 1st next season until after the draft lottery occurs. We execute this deal, I use #10 in this draft, and we keep our picks, non-traceable, until after the draft lottery next year.
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Toines Boys receive 2017 #10 pick.
Toine's Boys trade #26 pick and gives Gainesville the right to swap 2018 1sts with TB
Interesting. I will have a tad more to say about this soon. We've never done this that I'm aware of but I don't think we have a rule against it.
I think we have done swaps before. It's been a while. I may be mixing up the H2H league.
Mk
We def. have in the H2H league (though outlawed mulitple *swaps* and 2nd round swaps/conditions b/c SOMEONE (an ex-GM) was getting out of hand with it).
I think Eja's right -- no rule against it here.
Just thinking out loud.
I like the league to be as NBAish as possible (in a manner of speaking) partly for simplicity and whatnot.
My research tells me a major reason pick swaps happen is that there is a rule in the NBA that a team can't trade first rounders in consecutive years. So that's why the Celts and Nets pick swapped this year. The Nets COULDN'T trade their pick this year, because the Celts got their picks last year and next. But they could swap.
I care not.
However....to point out...this is why there was/is no danger at all of the Nets trading away a swap righted pick (and really the Celts couldn't either.)
If Toines and Gains do this they have to keep their picks for the year right? Like Gains can't trade to someone the right to swap with Toines. By the same token Toines can't trade something or other ....like say to the guy right above Gains thinking "that's where I'll pick anyway"
Like the picks have to be kept and untraded until final standings/lottery takes place and the trade activates or expires.
Then they could conceivably trade their newly acquired (or kept) pick should they want to.
Right?
Actually I'd disagree, though I do think folks should be clear.
In the absence of a rule (or Commish edict) I'd say this is how it works.
The Gainesville Red Claws' pick retains the right to swap with TB's pick.
Obviously I'm betting/hoping that TB finishes lower than the GRC, so unless i get a really good offer am unwilling to trade my pick -- that is eligible to be swapped for TBs.
But let's say Utah get's tired of Gobert and Jokic and offers both for my pick. Utah would get the GRC pick -- which has with it the option of swapping with the TB pick.
Or, let's say Eja offers David Nawaba to TB for his 2018 #1 pick. Eja would be getting the TB with the understanding that while it may be projected as #3 when he dealt for it, is eligible to drop from #3 to #20, where Gainevsille is picking after shocking the league with an improbable title followed by a Celtics-like swap for TB's #3 pick.
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TL;DR --- i think the picks can be traded but the swap rights go with the picks to the new owners, they don't stay with Gainesville/Toines.
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That's a fair point. I hadn't thought of it like that. I guess I'd be fine with that if everyone else is I think.
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In the unlikely scenario that yahoo adds a two way contract roster spot (I doubt it will happen. Seems unnecessary) I'd prefer we add it. Just another way to play the game as it changes. That said I have no strong opinion.
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I agree...
Side note...Brandon Knight tore his ACL. Anyone interested in trading a 2018 draft picks for him?
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Utah Flash sends: UF 2018 1 and 2, picks 30 and 31, Andre Roberson
Eja sends: #18, #39, Joe Harris
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Wow~ pretty fair trade for this year.....but long term I think Eja wins this one.
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Wow~ pretty fair trade for this year.....but long term I think Eja wins this one.
It's a bit of an overpay on my part. Oh well, more power to Eja.
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Mk
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If Utah gets a starter or solid rotation guy and I don't.....oi vey. Although Roberson is a young starter. I got that
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Tyrion/eja sends
Tyreke Evans, Demare Carroll, picks 31, 33, Mindaugus Kuzminskas
Toins sends
His own 2018 first (which notably Gains has a right to swap his for) and Edy Tavares
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What is Toines boys Cb Name?
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hpantazo....on the google docs spreadsheet the first tab (and there's about a million) has our identities
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I have renewed the league and sent out a message. Unfortunately my subject line is a bad one. It say to pick keepers. If you actually open and read the message you'd see it says to pick the keepers right after the draft. Don't pick keepers now. Pick them right after the draft. I'll start paying attention to this soon
Right now I just need everyone to check in with me
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Do we have a tentative draft date?
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Nope. We still have an absentee GM and the other league I believe will draft first. I'm thinking 2nd Sunday night of September or so. Do we have a replacement GM lined up?
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Brahma Bulls sends to Birdman Devin Booker and the number 7 pick in this years draft
Birdman sends to Brahma the numbers 2 and 24 pick in this years draft
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Brahma Bulls sends to Birdman Devin Booker and the number 7 pick in this years draft
Birdman sends to Brahma the numbers 2 and 24 pick in this years draft
Nice trade for Birdman. There will be some great players available at #7, and Booker is worth the trade down.
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Thanks to Brahma Bull for the trade..we went back and forth on some trade ideas..hate to lose the 2nd pick but getting Booker back and getting 7th pick was too hard to pass up
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My updated roster
Myles Turner
Jahill Okafor
Devin Booker
Emmanuel Mudiay
Patrick Beverly
Trey Myles
Shabazz Mohammed
T J Warren
Tim Frazier
Terrence Ross
Justin Anderson
Rodney McGruder
Guershown Yasbule
Jon Leur
Sean Kilpatrick
C J Miles
Jermi Grant
Jonathan Issac
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Myles Turner and Devin Booker are not going anywhere..everyone else is on the block
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Utah Flash sends: Mario Hezonja
Yall Hate sends: #23 and #32
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Utah Flash sends: Mario Hezonja
Yall Hate sends: #23 and #32
[dang] you Y'all Hate! I just couldn't beat out your offer for super mario!
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Google docs is cool.... Can these be pass word protected if I wanted to put work stuff up?
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Utah Flash sends: Mario Hezonja
Yall Hate sends: #23 and #32
[dang] you Y'all Hate! I just couldn't beat out your offer for super mario!
It was a tough deal to make. I believe in Super Mario. He's had a bit of a raw deal in ORL. With all of the deals that the new Magic GM/President made this summer, it pretty clear they aren't paving an easy road to PT for him this season. I expect he'll be traded this season or next off season. Hopefully he'll get a shot with a new team.
I'll be watching closely for sure.
Mk
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Google docs is cool.... Can these be pass word protected if I wanted to put work stuff up?
I believe all docs are private by default. I am not sure about Eja's doc. I have one I use for all things fbb. No one else can access it. Google doc does allow an owner of a privet doc to invite others to view/edit.
Mk
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Utah Flash sends: Mario Hezonja
Yall Hate sends: #23 and #32
[dang] you Y'all Hate! I just couldn't beat out your offer for super mario!
It was a tough deal to make. I believe in Super Mario. He's had a bit of a raw deal in ORL. With all of the deals that the new Magic GM/President made this summer, it pretty clear they aren't paving an easy road to PT for him this season. I expect he'll be traded this season or next off season. Hopefully he'll get a shot with a new team.
I'll be watching closely for sure.
Mk
Given my history of horrifically losing any and all trades I make, I suspect MK will turn my two draft picks into 10 time all stars and Hezonja will flame out of the NBA this year and leave the league. :o :o :o
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Utah Flash sends: Mario Hezonja
Yall Hate sends: #23 and #32
[dang] you Y'all Hate! I just couldn't beat out your offer for super mario!
It was a tough deal to make. I believe in Super Mario. He's had a bit of a raw deal in ORL. With all of the deals that the new Magic GM/President made this summer, it pretty clear they aren't paving an easy road to PT for him this season. I expect he'll be traded this season or next off season. Hopefully he'll get a shot with a new team.
I'll be watching closely for sure.
Mk
Given my history of horrifically losing any and all trades I make, I suspect MK will turn my two draft picks into 10 time all stars and Hezonja will flame out of the NBA this year and leave the league. :o :o :o
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Mk
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Another deal to be announced in the morning when I modify this post...nope...later. I'm lazy and a tad sleep deprived right now
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Another deal to be announced in the morning when I modify this post...nope...later. I'm lazy and a tad sleep deprived right now
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Mk
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Brahma sends to MMSB MKG and pick 12
MMSB sends to Brahma pick 6
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Brahma sends to MMSB MKG and pick 12
MMSB sends to Brahma pick 6
like trade for both teams
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Brahma sends to MMSB MKG and pick 12
MMSB sends to Brahma pick 6
like trade for both teams
Same. It's a solid deal for sure.
Mk
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My updated roster
Myles Turner
Jahill Okafor
Devin Booker
Emmanuel Mudiay
Patrick Beverly
Trey Myles
Shabazz Mohammed
T J Warren
Tim Frazier
Terrence Ross
Justin Anderson
Rodney McGruder
Guershown Yasbule
Jon Leur
Sean Kilpatrick
C J Miles
Jermi Grant
Jonathan Issac
my roster so far
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Final roster:
C--Myles Turner
C--Jahill Okafor
C--Jon Leur
F--Jonathan Isaac
F--Trey Lyles
F--Guershown Yasbule
F--Terrence Ross
F--C J Miles
F--Shabzz Mohammed
F--T J Warren
G--Devin Booker
G--Emmanuel Mudiay
G--Patrick Beverly
G--Justin Anderson
G--Tim Frazier
G--Sean Kilpatrick
Cuts:
Rodney McGruder
Jerami Grant
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LUCKY'S STRIKES CUTS:
THABO SEFELOSHA
REGGIE BULLOCK
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cuts due Sunday Oct 1 @ noon
Make your cuts in this thread or if you aren't on CB in the yahoo site
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Ok. Rosters are set and so is waiver priority. The league is a go
I would have liked to have waivers set for a few days further into the season but I can't figure it out without getting tricky.
Check your rosters.
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I think on paper I won my trade with Pitts. But I wonder what he's up to
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I think on paper I won my trade with Pitts. But I wonder what he's up to
haha i've thought that before in deals with Pitts -- and i was wrong every time.
I prefer Pitts' end of the deal in this case.
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I think on paper I won my trade with Pitts. But I wonder what he's up to
Same thing he does every year. Acquire first round picks, then package them for a star in the middle of the season when lower tier teams start thinking about next season.
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I think on paper I won my trade with Pitts. But I wonder what he's up to
Same thing he does every year. Acquire first round picks, then package them for a star in the middle of the season when lower tier teams start thinking about next season.
Maybe. I like the two player that Eja landed in the deal.
Mk
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I think on paper I won my trade with Pitts. But I wonder what he's up to
Same thing he does every year. Acquire first round picks, then package them for a star in the middle of the season when lower tier teams start thinking about next season.
Maybe. I like the two player that Eja landed in the deal.
Mk
Yes - I like Kennard as well (and, for that matter Teodisic).
But if history is any indication, Pitts will put together a Zubac, and two first round picks for a 40-50ppg guy.
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I thought about that. But then I thought to myself...wait a second. I have more picks than him. I have a lot more picks than him. I could do that.
I mean I took his 2nd rounder from him. I gave him a pick I hope will be at the very tail end of the lottery at absolute worstish.
I like the depth I have now and the assets
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I am very annoyed yahoo has taken away both smack talk and polls. Very annoying
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I'm in 3 leagues with Utah Flash. In one league he has Hayward and Mirotic and in another he has Mirotic.
It's been a bad week for Utah.
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Yeah, rough start to the season for Mk for sure. Mk knows how to bounce back though.
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I finally get my 24 hours of looking down on all of you....barely
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Yeah, rough start to the season for Mk for sure. Mk knows how to bounce back though.
Zeller (3 Leagues) and Smart (1 League) are unexpectedly out tonight to.
When it rains it’s in Utah, it pours.
Mk
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I'd like to point out R Lopez has 22 f points in the first quarter. He's gonna have a good year.
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Yo I stayed with it, while you declined offers and didn't play with it
Never knew about the next level til eja did it
I stayed committed while you GMs baby-sitted
I smash you critics like a deep 3 from Reddick
Come and get it, ignored by everyone in Pittsburgh
I be catching draft picks while Wade Baldwin be catching Champ's kids
So what the yuck am I supposed to do?
I pop curses and offer trades at each and all of you
A heartless basterd, good and plastered
My style's like you if you weren't so flaccid
Never come down! Pass it around cuz you can't handle it
Hang Hollywood Utahs by they Soul Train laminates
What's the difference between me and you? (What?)
About 500 points, 3 all stars and 2 starters too
Until my death, like David Koresh
I suggest Y'all hold yer breath 'til ain't none left
Yo that's the difference
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Yo I stayed with it, while you declined offers and didn't play with it
Never knew about the next level til eja did it
I stayed committed while you GMs baby-sitted
I smash you critics like a deep 3 from Reddick
Come and get it, ignored by everyone in Pittsburgh
I be catching draft picks while Wade Baldwin be catching Champ's kids
So what the yuck am I supposed to do?
I pop curses and offer trades at each and all of you
A heartless basterd, good and plastered
My style is like the reaction from too much acid
Never come down! Pass it around if you can't handle it
Hang Hollywood Utahs by they Soul Train laminates
What's the difference between me and you? (What?)
About 500 points, 3 all stars and 2 starters too
Until my death, like David Koresh
I suggest Y'all hold yer breath 'til ain't none left
Yo that's the difference
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Mk