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Title: KG, PP, Perk & Big Baby on Ray leaving
Post by: slightly biased bias fan on May 08, 2017, 11:12:51 PM
https://twitter.com/KGArea21/status/861768141696679936/video/1
Title: Re: KG, PP, Perk & Big Baby on Ray leaving
Post by: JSD on May 08, 2017, 11:25:03 PM
Glad they finally addressed this head on.

Thanks and TP for posting.
Title: Re: KG, PP, Perk & Big Baby on Ray leaving
Post by: JSD on May 08, 2017, 11:30:16 PM
Cliff notes:

Nobody was upset with Ray leaving per-say, it was the fashion in which he did it. Not reaching out to anyone and just dipping out, even after many deep and family oriented experiences with all those guys. Everyone spoke on the situation BUT Rondo, who took a pass. Obvious bad blood there from something even deeper that went on.
Title: Re: KG, PP, Perk & Big Baby on Ray leaving
Post by: SparzWizard on May 08, 2017, 11:32:49 PM
Still hate Ray Allen for the way he left, and how we lost Game 3 of the 2010 Finals. He saved LeBron his career in 2013.

Title: Re: KG, PP, Perk & Big Baby on Ray leaving
Post by: blink on May 08, 2017, 11:35:54 PM
I was just happy to see all those guys in the same room again.  TP for sharing.
Title: Re: KG, PP, Perk & Big Baby on Ray leaving
Post by: CelticsElite on May 09, 2017, 12:01:43 AM
I knew it was rumored that ray was mad at doc cuz of AB getting minutes but cool to see paul admit a and confirm that. It's a really interesting nugget of info and makes ray look more like a diva.

Also crazy to see this legendary Celtic core back together
Title: Re: KG, PP, Perk & Big Baby on Ray leaving
Post by: Kuberski33 on May 09, 2017, 12:12:41 AM
What I took from it is no one's extending the olive branch to Ray anytime soon. Also interesting that Rondo said the Bulls felt that if he hand't gotten hurt they'd have have swept the Celtics.
Title: Re: KG, PP, Perk & Big Baby on Ray leaving
Post by: CelticsElite on May 09, 2017, 12:24:40 AM

https://twitter.com/kgarea21/status/861748186716581892

Doc surprised them. Sam Cassell works for TNT I think and was there to lol
Title: Re: KG, PP, Perk & Big Baby on Ray leaving
Post by: CelticsElite on May 09, 2017, 12:45:50 AM
It seems a lot of the guys Did not like that Danny didnt bring back  james Posey (and others from the championship team like Eddie House) : https://twitter.com/kgarea21/status/861788252176502784
Title: Re: KG, PP, Perk & Big Baby on Ray leaving
Post by: cousytoheinsohn on May 09, 2017, 01:18:42 AM
What I took from it is no one's extending the olive branch to Ray anytime soon. Also interesting that Rondo said the Bulls felt that if he hand't gotten hurt they'd have have swept the Celtics.

As much as I hate to admit it, it sure was looking that way.
Title: Re: KG, PP, Perk & Big Baby on Ray leaving
Post by: cousytoheinsohn on May 09, 2017, 01:19:36 AM
https://twitter.com/KGArea21/status/861768141696679936/video/1

Many thanks for passing this along to everyone.
Title: Re: KG, PP, Perk & Big Baby on Ray leaving
Post by: RockinRyA on May 09, 2017, 01:45:04 AM
I knew it was rumored that ray was mad at doc cuz of AB getting minutes but cool to see paul admit a and confirm that. It's a really interesting nugget of info and makes ray look more like a diva.

Also crazy to see this legendary Celtic core back together

This is what Ive been saying all along. But no, all people tell me that it was just Allen leaving that they were mad and they have no right.

There was silence from Ray before his decision. Look, its fine for Ray not to tell Danny beforehand, or even Doc. But these people were his brothers, he should have the courtesy to give them a heads up.
Title: Re: KG, PP, Perk & Big Baby on Ray leaving
Post by: CelticSooner on May 09, 2017, 01:56:15 AM
Watching all the Area 21 videos from this. Some good stuff. KG is just a funny dude.  :)
Title: Re: KG, PP, Perk & Big Baby on Ray leaving
Post by: bdm860 on May 09, 2017, 08:25:54 AM
Hilarious.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C_XIdOhXYAA4fmV.jpg:large)


I know slightly biased bias fan and CelticsElite have already posted a few clips, but everybody needs to go check out https://twitter.com/KGArea21, there's probably over an hours worth of videos of KG, Pierce, Perk, and Rondo discussing a bunch of different things.
Title: Re: KG, PP, Perk & Big Baby on Ray leaving
Post by: CelticsElite on May 09, 2017, 04:25:16 PM
Was a good time and great to watch. They're a funny bunch
Title: Re: KG, PP, Perk & Big Baby on Ray leaving
Post by: GreenFaith1819 on May 09, 2017, 04:43:10 PM
Cool to see the bunch back together again.

That championship season (and the next 2-3 years after) meant SO MUCH to us as Celtics fans.

If Paul, KG, Perk, Rondo and BB are truly upset at HOW he left then I can understand that. But even after almost 10 YEARS they still holding a grudge?

Just let it go. Whether or not Ray even comes around let it be on HIM - not on THEM.

They're letting this beef cloud over how special those years were.

Just let it go.
Title: Re: KG, PP, Perk & Big Baby on Ray leaving
Post by: celts10 on May 09, 2017, 04:46:11 PM
https://twitter.com/KGArea21/status/861768141696679936/video/1

And shortly following the Area 21 segment, Ray chose to display a new FB post which shows him in his Heat jersey going to the rim over Rondo.

http://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/look-ray-allen-responds-to-2008-celtics-in-facebook-post-and-its-not-pleasant/
Title: Re: KG, PP, Perk & Big Baby on Ray leaving
Post by: tankcity! on May 09, 2017, 04:47:04 PM
Cool to see the bunch back together again.

That championship season (and the next 2-3 years after) meant SO MUCH to us as Celtics fans.

If Paul, KG, Perk, Rondo and BB are truly upset at HOW he left then I can understand that. But even after almost 10 YEARS they still holding a grudge?

Just let it go. Whether or not Ray even comes around let it be on HIM - not on THEM.

They're letting this beef cloud over how special those years were.

Just let it go.

Let it go how? What do you want them to do? I don't think Ray Allen has even tried reaching out to them. I mean they were asked a question and responded. They have clearly moved on and are happy with each other. Ray Allen doesn't want to be a part of that. He made it pretty clear he doesn't care with his Facebook reply today. You should check out his facebook page. He's in Miami gear. He is not a Celtic, lol. He doesn't see himself that way.
Title: Re: KG, PP, Perk & Big Baby on Ray leaving
Post by: celts10 on May 09, 2017, 04:50:19 PM
Cool to see the bunch back together again.

That championship season (and the next 2-3 years after) meant SO MUCH to us as Celtics fans.

If Paul, KG, Perk, Rondo and BB are truly upset at HOW he left then I can understand that. But even after almost 10 YEARS they still holding a grudge?

Just let it go. Whether or not Ray even comes around let it be on HIM - not on THEM.

They're letting this beef cloud over how special those years were.

Just let it go.

I was as ticked as anyone when Ray left but its been five years now. Hell, even Perkins joined LeBron to ring chase in Cleveland (2015) and just this season Rondo and DWade became teammates. Just let it go, I have to agree.
Title: Re: KG, PP, Perk & Big Baby on Ray leaving
Post by: GreenFaith1819 on May 09, 2017, 04:53:41 PM
Cool to see the bunch back together again.

That championship season (and the next 2-3 years after) meant SO MUCH to us as Celtics fans.

If Paul, KG, Perk, Rondo and BB are truly upset at HOW he left then I can understand that. But even after almost 10 YEARS they still holding a grudge?

Just let it go. Whether or not Ray even comes around let it be on HIM - not on THEM.

They're letting this beef cloud over how special those years were.

Just let it go.

Let it go how? What do you want them to do? I don't think Ray Allen has even tried reaching out to them. I mean they were asked a question and responded. They have clearly moved on and are happy with each other. Ray Allen doesn't want to be a part of that. He made it pretty clear he doesn't care with his Facebook reply today. You should check out his facebook page. He's in Miami gear. He is not a Celtic, lol. He doesn't see himself that way.

I saw the facebook post and thought it was pretty cool and funny, myself.

Doesn't make me any less of a Celtics fan either.

If Rondo is offended (or any Celtics fan for that matter) they should MAN (or WOMAN) up.

The fact that the five of them even discussed it on air like this means that it must still be an issue for them as well.

Whatever.

Fast forward from the contending years nearly all of them out either retired or out of the NBA, and the few that are left are hanging on by threads.
Title: Re: KG, PP, Perk & Big Baby on Ray leaving
Post by: GreenFaith1819 on May 09, 2017, 05:00:14 PM
Look, the fact that that Facebook post had only ONE CELTIC on it should let us know (in an overt manner) who Ray may have had an issue with.

For me, I'll always remember his good times in Green. If it wasn't for Ray Allen KG wouldn't have even went to BOS.
Title: Re: KG, PP, Perk & Big Baby on Ray leaving
Post by: goCeltics on May 09, 2017, 05:45:22 PM
seems ray was the bad teammate not rajon, i always suspected it that ray gets favourable coverage from the media because he is so friendly with them, whilst rajon couldn't care less.

it will be quite embrassing for ray if they decide to retire his number and none of his ex teammates show up.
Title: Re: KG, PP, Perk & Big Baby on Ray leaving
Post by: goCeltics on May 09, 2017, 05:48:13 PM
i don't understand if ray just had the issue with rajon how come he doesn't communicate with the rest of his teammates, tells ya something right there
Title: Re: KG, PP, Perk & Big Baby on Ray leaving
Post by: RJ87 on May 09, 2017, 05:51:33 PM
Look, the fact that that Facebook post had only ONE CELTIC on it should let us know (in an overt manner) who Ray may have had an issue with.

For me, I'll always remember his good times in Green. If it wasn't for Ray Allen KG wouldn't have even went to BOS.

The funny thing is that Rondo was the only one who didn't comment on it last night. I also thought Pierce confirming that Ray was unhappy with Avery taking some of his minutes was also telling.
Title: Re: KG, PP, Perk & Big Baby on Ray leaving
Post by: CelticsElite on May 09, 2017, 05:52:08 PM
Ray Allen deleted his childish Facebook post... this guy is such a diva



https://twitter.com/espnforsberg/status/861951464754692096
Title: Re: KG, PP, Perk & Big Baby on Ray leaving
Post by: Roy H. on May 09, 2017, 05:58:30 PM
Ray Allen deleted his childish Facebook post... this guy is such a diva



https://twitter.com/espnforsberg/status/861951464754692096

(http://media.masslive.com/celtics_impact/photo/Screen%20Shot%202017-05-09%20at%209.59.56%20AM.png)

It cracked me up. Life's not that serious.
Title: Re: KG, PP, Perk & Big Baby on Ray leaving
Post by: celticsclay on May 09, 2017, 06:12:13 PM
2 thoughts

Big baby looks really awful for being 31.. I do worry about his long term health.

As for this, I generally have to take the stance that if 6-8 guys all feel like a guy did something wrong (some of them with very very different personality as kg, pierce, rondo and perkins are very different), the guy probably did something pretty wrong.
Title: Re: KG, PP, Perk & Big Baby on Ray leaving
Post by: CelticsElite on May 09, 2017, 06:14:30 PM
2 thoughts

Big baby looks really awful for being 31.. I do worry about his long term health.

As for this, I generally have to take the stance that if 6-8 guys all feel like a guy did something wrong (some of them with very very different personality as kg, pierce, rondo and perkins are very different), the guy probably did something pretty wrong.
agreed. People like pierce and baby don't seem like the type to hold a grudge unless it was serious 
Title: Re: KG, PP, Perk & Big Baby on Ray leaving
Post by: tazzmaniac on May 09, 2017, 06:28:11 PM
Nets fans ought to be grateful that Allen left.  Ainge could have at least gotten an additional pick swap in the trade. 
Title: Re: KG, PP, Perk & Big Baby on Ray leaving
Post by: JSD on May 09, 2017, 06:33:36 PM
Ray Allen deleted his childish Facebook post... this guy is such a diva



https://twitter.com/espnforsberg/status/861951464754692096

(http://media.masslive.com/celtics_impact/photo/Screen%20Shot%202017-05-09%20at%209.59.56%20AM.png)

It cracked me up. Life's not that serious.

Well [dang]...

Ray Allen with no chill 😂
Title: Re: KG, PP, Perk & Big Baby on Ray leaving
Post by: CelticSooner on May 09, 2017, 06:34:36 PM
The irony of that whole thing was everyone there got traded except the one that wasn't, Ray. I found that funny.

When I'm old and gray that always be my team. Special groups like that don't come around very often. Any beef with Ray will be squashed eventually.
Title: Re: KG, PP, Perk & Big Baby on Ray leaving
Post by: csfansince60s on May 09, 2017, 06:38:44 PM
2 thoughts

Big baby looks really awful for being 31.. I do worry about his long term health.

As for this, I generally have to take the stance that if 6-8 guys all feel like a guy did something wrong (some of them with very very different personality as kg, pierce, rondo and perkins are very different), the guy probably did something pretty wrong.
agreed. People like pierce and baby don't seem like the type to hold a grudge unless it was serious

TP to both of you.

The Cs offered RA 12 million for 2 years with a NO TRADE CLAUSE. If that's not a huge, expensive, committing olive branch, I don't know what is. The cHeat offered him 3 mil/year.

Judas didn't leave his  brethren to chase a ring (that was only incidental and the ultimate pork job/icing on the cake). He left to the team that he did, the enemy, the cHeat, so he could give a big middle finger to Ainge, Doc and Rondo, his brothers in arms (PP and KG, especially), be [dang]ed. He didn't care who he hurt in sticking it to his targets.

He's a traitor, he's a Judas, and I'm praying that Markelle Fultz gets #20. No rafters for you little Ray Ray, you're a cHeat.
Title: Re: KG, PP, Perk & Big Baby on Ray leaving
Post by: Ogaju on May 09, 2017, 06:49:51 PM
Nets fans ought to be grateful that Allen left.  Ainge could have at least gotten an additional pick swap in the trade.

This is the post of the day.....lol TP!
Title: Re: KG, PP, Perk & Big Baby on Ray leaving
Post by: CelticsElite on May 09, 2017, 11:05:44 PM
Ray Allen deleted his childish Facebook post... this guy is such a diva



https://twitter.com/espnforsberg/status/861951464754692096

(http://media.masslive.com/celtics_impact/photo/Screen%20Shot%202017-05-09%20at%209.59.56%20AM.png)

It cracked me up. Life's not that serious.
http://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/ray-allen-says-facebook-picture-of-him-against-2008-celtics-is-the-work-of-hackers/

Ray is now claiming he didn't post it and was hacked. Lol sure
Title: Re: KG, PP, Perk & Big Baby on Ray leaving
Post by: RockinRyA on May 09, 2017, 11:26:14 PM
The irony of that whole thing was everyone there got traded except the one that wasn't, Ray. I found that funny.

When I'm old and gray that always be my team. Special groups like that don't come around very often. Any beef with Ray will be squashed eventually.

Ray traded his home, his friends for a ring. I'd never do that. When we are old its better to have all of these relationships than just another accomplishment.

And the stupid thing is, he couldve gotten both if he just talked to the guys before leaving. I mean, just ask PP and KG out for coffee or whatever Ray is drinking and tell them your feelings before leaving.
Title: Re: KG, PP, Perk & Big Baby on Ray leaving
Post by: Moranis on May 09, 2017, 11:59:57 PM
I'm reminded of this article and with a lot of quotes from Pierce a few years back.

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/12690080/washington-wizards-paul-pierce-speaks-truth

Ray was always distant and PP didn't seem to mind how Allen left back then.
Title: Re: KG, PP, Perk & Big Baby on Ray leaving
Post by: Boston Garden Leprechaun on May 20, 2017, 11:35:11 PM
Still hate Ray Allen for the way he left, and how we lost Game 3 of the 2010 Finals. He saved LeBron his career in 2013.



kawhi missing that FT cost the spurs back to back titles against lebron.
Title: Re: KG, PP, Perk & Big Baby on Ray leaving
Post by: tenn_smoothie on May 21, 2017, 03:38:19 AM
Still hate Ray Allen for the way he left, and how we lost Game 3 of the 2010 Finals. He saved LeBron his career in 2013.



kawhi missing that FT cost the spurs back to back titles against lebron.

Sorry, but it wasn't the missed free throw. It was Coach "Genius" Popovich inexplicably taking his best rebounders out of the game and allowing Miami the second shots - I was screaming at the TV when he did it.