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Title: Bailey Howell
Post by: Big333223 on April 04, 2017, 09:05:59 PM
How did I not know this? I've been aware of him forever. I've read about him in a number of Celtic books and knew his numbers as a Celtics pretty well off hand but, for some reason, always thought he was Black. Nope. White.

Anyone else have any Celtic-related misconceptions that they held for way too long before finding out the truth?
Title: Re: Never Knew Bailey Howell Was White
Post by: KG Living Legend on April 04, 2017, 09:19:25 PM

 No but this thread will be locked just because the subject is about race.
Title: Re: Never Knew Bailey Howell Was White
Post by: Emmette Bryant on April 04, 2017, 10:15:03 PM
Bailey Howell could stroke it.  He's one of the reasons that Bill Russell won his last few championships.
Title: Re: Never Knew Bailey Howell Was White
Post by: trickybilly on April 05, 2017, 12:31:58 AM
I still think James Young will have a career.
Title: Re: Never Knew Bailey Howell Was White
Post by: kozlodoev on April 05, 2017, 07:24:27 AM

 No but this thread will be locked just because the subject is about race.
No idea what you're talking about. This thread is about Bailey Howell.  8)
Title: Re: Never Knew Bailey Howell Was White
Post by: Surferdad on April 05, 2017, 08:38:02 AM

 No but this thread will be locked just because the subject is about race.
No idea what you're talking about. This thread is about Bailey Howell.  8)
Shut it down.
Title: Re: Never Knew Bailey Howell Was White
Post by: kozlodoev on April 05, 2017, 10:01:32 AM

 No but this thread will be locked just because the subject is about race.
No idea what you're talking about. This thread is about Bailey Howell.  8)
Shut it down.
Lock her up...

... oh wait, that's a different chant.
Title: Re: Bailey Howell
Post by: Donoghus on April 05, 2017, 10:04:45 AM
I edited the title.  I certainly appreciate the discussion of Bailey Howell but we really don't need to focus on the race aspect of him.
Title: Re: Bailey Howell
Post by: Big333223 on April 05, 2017, 03:36:30 PM
Upon further investigation, I think I've been confusing Howell with Wayne Embry all these years. I knew Howell's stats but Emrby, for whatever reason, is the guy I've had in my head.

Embry wasn't a very big part of the Celtics but he was on the championship team in '68 had made a handful of all star games for the Cincinnati Royals in the early 60's.  He was only with the Celtics for 2 seasons. Howell was in Boston for 4 seasons, 3 times averaging over 19 ppg and twice for championship teams. Looking over his numbers from those first 3 seasons in green, he completed a pretty devastating scoring trifecta with John Havlicek and Sam Jones.
Title: Re: Bailey Howell
Post by: hardlyyardley on April 05, 2017, 05:12:23 PM
Howell was an All-Star with Detroit before another great Auerbach deal trading Mel Counts for him...he is in a great photo of game action photo of Russell vs Wilt....#18 before Cowens
Title: Re: Bailey Howell
Post by: Big333223 on April 06, 2017, 10:19:17 AM
Anyone watching the game on ESPN last night catch Hubie Brown's trivia question? Only once in Celtic history have 3 Celtics averaged 20+ ppg in one year. Who were they?
Title: Re: Bailey Howell
Post by: footey on April 06, 2017, 11:38:42 AM
I listened to Johnny Most broadcast of Bailey Howell's first game as a Celtic, in 1966. And every game after for the next 10 years.

It was Bill Russell's first year as player-coach.

I recall Howell played very well that game, and for the next 3 seasons with the Celtics.

Some of my happiest memories as a Celtic fan.
Title: Re: Bailey Howell
Post by: fairweatherfan on April 06, 2017, 12:07:03 PM
Anyone watching the game on ESPN last night catch Hubie Brown's trivia question? Only once in Celtic history have 3 Celtics averaged 20+ ppg in one year. Who were they?

Yeah, and then he's like "most people will get Havlicek and Sam Jones" as if the average fan's gonna go there instead of guessing it's one of the modern Big 3s. 

But the third of course is the man of the hour, the demographically ambiguous Mr Howell.
Title: Re: Bailey Howell
Post by: Big333223 on April 06, 2017, 01:44:30 PM
Anyone watching the game on ESPN last night catch Hubie Brown's trivia question? Only once in Celtic history have 3 Celtics averaged 20+ ppg in one year. Who were they?

Yeah, and then he's like "most people will get Havlicek and Sam Jones" as if the average fan's gonna go there instead of guessing it's one of the modern Big 3s. 

But the third of course is the man of the hour, the demographically ambiguous Mr Howell.
Hubie invoking Howell's name on national TV was the only joy I got out of last night.