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Title: It's Official - The Las Vegas Raiders
Post by: Moranis on March 27, 2017, 02:38:51 PM
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/raiders-get-nfl-owners-blessing-to-move-to-las-vegas-180842628.html
Title: Re: It's Official - The Las Vegas Raiders
Post by: slamtheking on March 27, 2017, 03:09:50 PM
didn't think any team in a major sport would ever be allowed to move to Vegas due to the concerns of gambling influencing the sport (more than it already does).
Title: Re: It's Official - The Las Vegas Raiders
Post by: Donoghus on March 27, 2017, 03:10:37 PM
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Title: Re: It's Official - The Las Vegas Raiders
Post by: Surferdad on March 27, 2017, 03:33:12 PM
didn't think any team in a major sport would ever be allowed to move to Vegas due to the concerns of gambling influencing the sport (more than it already does).
"I'm shocked, shocked to hear that gambling is ongoing in this establishment!"
- Casablanca
Title: Re: It's Official - The Las Vegas Raiders
Post by: hpantazo on March 27, 2017, 03:42:44 PM
It's only a matter of time now until they get an NBA team, and that team will become a top free agent destination.
Title: Re: It's Official - The Las Vegas Raiders
Post by: Surferdad on March 27, 2017, 03:53:54 PM
It's only a matter of time now until they get an NBA team, and that team will become a top free agent destination.
Sure because top free agents will want to waste the reminder of their careers on an expansion club with no hope of winning a title.   ;D

Point is that weather is no longer the dominating factor.  We are back to winning, what a concept.
Title: Re: It's Official - The Las Vegas Raiders
Post by: Moranis on March 27, 2017, 04:08:28 PM
didn't think any team in a major sport would ever be allowed to move to Vegas due to the concerns of gambling influencing the sport (more than it already does).
NHL already approved a team.  NFL is now #2. 
Title: Re: It's Official - The Las Vegas Raiders
Post by: Donoghus on March 27, 2017, 04:13:09 PM
didn't think any team in a major sport would ever be allowed to move to Vegas due to the concerns of gambling influencing the sport (more than it already does).
NHL already approved a team.  NFL is now #2.

Golden Knights didn't relocate.  They're expansion.
Title: Re: It's Official - The Las Vegas Raiders
Post by: CoachBo on March 27, 2017, 04:33:20 PM
The one remaining question:

Why does Mark Davis have a coif like a 6-year-old kid?

Man, those Davis men and their hair ...
Title: Re: It's Official - The Las Vegas Raiders
Post by: Moranis on March 27, 2017, 04:42:52 PM
didn't think any team in a major sport would ever be allowed to move to Vegas due to the concerns of gambling influencing the sport (more than it already does).
NHL already approved a team.  NFL is now #2.

Golden Knights didn't relocate.  They're expansion.
I know and I know he said move, but for his overall theme, an expansion team is basically the same thing as a relocation (i.e. gambling).
Title: Re: It's Official - The Las Vegas Raiders
Post by: rocknrollforyoursoul on March 27, 2017, 05:56:54 PM
It's only a matter of time now until they get an NBA team.

If this is true, hopefully it's a relocation葉he NBA already has a couple dozen players who don't belong in the league.

As for Vegas being home to pro sports teams, clearly the idea of making money is much more important than any concerns about illegal gambling. To me, Vegas just doesn't seem like a sports town. "Golden Knights" sounds like a low-low-minor-league team, and "Raiders" doesn't say "Vegas" to me at all.
Title: Re: It's Official - The Las Vegas Raiders
Post by: saltlover on March 27, 2017, 06:20:29 PM
It's only a matter of time now until they get an NBA team.

If this is true, hopefully it's a relocation葉he NBA already has a couple dozen players who don't belong in the league.

As for Vegas being home to pro sports teams, clearly the idea of making money is much more important than any concerns about illegal gambling. To me, Vegas just doesn't seem like a sports town. "Golden Knights" sounds like a low-low-minor-league team, and "Raiders" doesn't say "Vegas" to me at all.

I have a feeling Vegas and Seattle get expansion teams right around the time the next media deal is being negotiated.  Vegas has a metro population of nearly 2 million, and has more than doubled in size since 1990.

And the quality of players has increased at a much faster rate than has the number of teams.  The league won't be hurt for an extra 30 bodies in the league.
Title: Re: It's Official - The Las Vegas Raiders
Post by: rocknrollforyoursoul on March 27, 2017, 06:47:57 PM
It's only a matter of time now until they get an NBA team.

If this is true, hopefully it's a relocation葉he NBA already has a couple dozen players who don't belong in the league.

As for Vegas being home to pro sports teams, clearly the idea of making money is much more important than any concerns about illegal gambling. To me, Vegas just doesn't seem like a sports town. "Golden Knights" sounds like a low-low-minor-league team, and "Raiders" doesn't say "Vegas" to me at all.

I have a feeling Vegas and Seattle get expansion teams right around the time the next media deal is being negotiated.  Vegas has a metro population of nearly 2 million, and has more than doubled in size since 1990.

And the quality of players has increased at a much faster rate than has the number of teams.  The league won't be hurt for an extra 30 bodies in the league.

I think it will be hurt. In fact, I'd like to see the NBA eliminate a couple of teams.
Title: Re: It's Official - The Las Vegas Raiders
Post by: saltlover on March 27, 2017, 07:09:46 PM
It's only a matter of time now until they get an NBA team.

If this is true, hopefully it's a relocation葉he NBA already has a couple dozen players who don't belong in the league.

As for Vegas being home to pro sports teams, clearly the idea of making money is much more important than any concerns about illegal gambling. To me, Vegas just doesn't seem like a sports town. "Golden Knights" sounds like a low-low-minor-league team, and "Raiders" doesn't say "Vegas" to me at all.

I have a feeling Vegas and Seattle get expansion teams right around the time the next media deal is being negotiated.  Vegas has a metro population of nearly 2 million, and has more than doubled in size since 1990.

And the quality of players has increased at a much faster rate than has the number of teams.  The league won't be hurt for an extra 30 bodies in the league.

I think it will be hurt. In fact, I'd like to see the NBA eliminate a couple of teams.

There were 27 teams in 1990, when the US population was 250 million.  Now there are 30 teams and the population is 315 million.  So while the population has grown 25%, the number of NBA players has grown about 11%.  Furthermore, the game has greatly expanded internationally, meaning that there is an even greater pool of talent to draw from than merely accounting for population growth alone.  Basketball has also seen an uptick in popularity, meaning there are enough fans to support the extra teams.

Two more teams would be just fine.  Reducing teams would be a significant loss.
Title: Re: It's Official - The Las Vegas Raiders
Post by: Donoghus on March 27, 2017, 07:13:21 PM

Two more teams would be just fine.  Reducing teams would be a significant loss.

Not to mention a peeved off player's union.
Title: Re: It's Official - The Las Vegas Raiders
Post by: rocknrollforyoursoul on March 27, 2017, 07:34:48 PM

Two more teams would be just fine.  Reducing teams would be a significant loss.

Not to mention a peeved off player's union.

Yeah, I have no expectation, or even real hope, that contraction will ever happen this side of the Apocalypse. Just a personal preference.
Title: Re: It's Official - The Las Vegas Raiders
Post by: nickagneta on March 27, 2017, 08:01:50 PM
It's only a matter of time now until they get an NBA team.

If this is true, hopefully it's a relocation葉he NBA already has a couple dozen players who don't belong in the league.

As for Vegas being home to pro sports teams, clearly the idea of making money is much more important than any concerns about illegal gambling. To me, Vegas just doesn't seem like a sports town. "Golden Knights" sounds like a low-low-minor-league team, and "Raiders" doesn't say "Vegas" to me at all.

I have a feeling Vegas and Seattle get expansion teams right around the time the next media deal is being negotiated.  Vegas has a metro population of nearly 2 million, and has more than doubled in size since 1990.

And the quality of players has increased at a much faster rate than has the number of teams.  The league won't be hurt for an extra 30 bodies in the league.
This I don't agree with. In fact, I think the number of top echilon players in the league has decreased as a percentage of players in the league since the late 1980s and early 1990s.
Title: Re: It's Official - The Las Vegas Raiders
Post by: Moranis on April 27, 2017, 10:28:50 PM
It's only a matter of time now until they get an NBA team.

If this is true, hopefully it's a relocation葉he NBA already has a couple dozen players who don't belong in the league.

As for Vegas being home to pro sports teams, clearly the idea of making money is much more important than any concerns about illegal gambling. To me, Vegas just doesn't seem like a sports town. "Golden Knights" sounds like a low-low-minor-league team, and "Raiders" doesn't say "Vegas" to me at all.

I have a feeling Vegas and Seattle get expansion teams right around the time the next media deal is being negotiated.  Vegas has a metro population of nearly 2 million, and has more than doubled in size since 1990.

And the quality of players has increased at a much faster rate than has the number of teams.  The league won't be hurt for an extra 30 bodies in the league.
This I don't agree with. In fact, I think the number of top echilon players in the league has decreased as a percentage of players in the league since the late 1980s and early 1990s.
I think if you actually went through the players you wouldn't find that to be the case