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Title: Why can't we rebound like this all the time?
Post by: Chris22 on March 20, 2017, 11:37:21 PM
Tonight is what it looked like when teams tried to get offensive rebounds.
Why can't we do this all the time?
Title: Re: Why can't we rebound like this all the time?
Post by: rocknrollforyoursoul on March 20, 2017, 11:43:48 PM
Tonight is what it looked like when teams tried to get offensive rebounds.
Why can't we do this all the time?

I'm glad it happened, but I feel like it's a mirage, like I'm actually lost in the desert and this didn't really happen.
Title: Re: Why can't we rebound like this all the time?
Post by: smokeablount on March 21, 2017, 12:01:07 AM
Them losing Gortat probably helped out a lot. It seemed like 2 of Jason Smith, Markief Morris and Otto Porter were their big guys for most of the night, and we exploited that. Even IT rebounded well.
Title: Re: Why can't we rebound like this all the time?
Post by: Chris22 on March 21, 2017, 04:04:15 AM
Tonight is what it looked like when teams tried to get offensive rebounds.
Why can't we do this all the time?

I'm glad it happened, but I feel like it's a mirage, like I'm actually lost in the desert and this didn't really happen.

I felt like we went back in time to the 1980's when teams actually crashed the offensive boards.
Guess what?
It works.
Title: Re: Why can't we rebound like this all the time?
Post by: saltlover on March 21, 2017, 04:12:48 AM
Tonight is what it looked like when teams tried to get offensive rebounds.
Why can't we do this all the time?

Because on most nights the other team tries to rebound as well.  I liked our effort on the boards, but that IT tip in at the end of the third amongst three Washington frontcourt players should pretty much describe the effort that team had for most of the night.

We could do better on many nights, but to do this well takes help from the opppsition.
Title: Re: Why can't we rebound like this all the time?
Post by: Surferdad on March 21, 2017, 07:24:12 AM
Them losing Gortat probably helped out a lot. It seemed like 2 of Jason Smith, Markief Morris and Otto Porter were their big guys for most of the night, and we exploited that. Even IT rebounded well.
I missed the game, but if Gortat went down, that explains a lot.
Title: Re: Why can't we rebound like this all the time?
Post by: Tr1boy on March 21, 2017, 07:57:01 AM
Bc we cant

Team rebounding is a consistent inconsistent thing

This is why you need one or two bonafide rebounders on your team
Title: Re: Why can't we rebound like this all the time?
Post by: Eja117 on March 21, 2017, 07:58:45 AM
Because our bigs are soft
Title: Re: Why can't we rebound like this all the time?
Post by: Moranis on March 21, 2017, 08:30:36 AM
Bc we cant

Team rebounding is a consistent inconsistent thing

This is why you need one or two bonafide rebounders on your team
exactly.  Inconsistent rebounders will rebound inconsistently.
Title: Re: Why can't we rebound like this all the time?
Post by: hwangjini_1 on March 21, 2017, 08:37:03 AM
Bc we cant

Team rebounding is a consistent inconsistent thing

This is why you need one or two bonafide rebounders on your team
exactly.  Inconsistent rebounders will rebound inconsistently.
But will they do so inconsistently?  ;D
Title: Re: Why can't we rebound like this all the time?
Post by: SHAQATTACK on March 21, 2017, 08:49:41 AM
I think Rozier , Smart , Bradley , Brown and Crowder  do put the effort in.  Sometimes Al.

The rest of the team I have no faith much in rebounds .

IT has a pass on rebounds.

Our bigs DO NOT
Title: Re: Why can't we rebound like this all the time?
Post by: chilidawg on March 21, 2017, 09:13:37 AM
Because our bigs are soft

Nothing as gutless as anonymous internet posters calling pro athletes battling with other 7', 250 pound pro athletes soft.

This thread is soft.
Title: Re: Why can't we rebound like this all the time?
Post by: Chris22 on March 21, 2017, 09:20:14 AM
The players are not soft. For years coaches have told players that getting back on defense is more important than going for offensive rebounds. Obviously a conscious decision was made to go for offensive rebounds.
Title: Re: Why can't we rebound like this all the time?
Post by: kozlodoev on March 21, 2017, 10:39:30 AM
Them losing Gortat probably helped out a lot. It seemed like 2 of Jason Smith, Markief Morris and Otto Porter were their big guys for most of the night, and we exploited that. Even IT rebounded well.
I missed the game, but if Gortat went down, that explains a lot.
Gortat played ~12 minutes or so. You're not going to outrebound teams with Morris and Jason Smith in the front court -- not even the Celtics :D.
Title: Re: Why can't we rebound like this all the time?
Post by: saltlover on March 21, 2017, 10:58:24 AM
Them losing Gortat probably helped out a lot. It seemed like 2 of Jason Smith, Markief Morris and Otto Porter were their big guys for most of the night, and we exploited that. Even IT rebounded well.
I missed the game, but if Gortat went down, that explains a lot.

Gortat didn't go down.  He's been ineffective the last month or so, and was benched.  He's 34, and was run into the ground early in the year.  He averaged 35 minutes in October/November, over 36 minutes in December, 32-33 minutes in January and February, and under 24 minutes in March.

I've been saying for months that the Wizards were going to crash late in the season, because they relied way too much on their starters early on in the season, and that is coming home to roost.
Title: Re: Why can't we rebound like this all the time?
Post by: smokeablount on March 21, 2017, 11:02:58 AM
Them losing Gortat probably helped out a lot. It seemed like 2 of Jason Smith, Markief Morris and Otto Porter were their big guys for most of the night, and we exploited that. Even IT rebounded well.
I missed the game, but if Gortat went down, that explains a lot.

Gortat didn't go down.  He's been ineffective the last month or so, and was benched.  He's 34, and was run into the ground early in the year.  He averaged 35 minutes in October/November, over 36 minutes in December, 32-33 minutes in January and February, and under 24 minutes in March.

I've been saying for months that the Wizards were going to crash late in the season, because they relied way too much on their starters early on in the season, and that is coming home to roost.

Gonna need a source on that, I was there and he ran into the lockerroom. I didn't see him come back out though I'm not certain about that, but I'm certain he ran down the tunnel.
Title: Re: Why can't we rebound like this all the time?
Post by: Eja117 on March 21, 2017, 11:18:41 AM
Because our bigs are soft

Nothing as gutless as anonymous internet posters calling pro athletes battling with other 7', 250 pound pro athletes soft.

This thread is soft.
Oh those poor poor pro athletes getting consistently outrebounded. How dare we? Don't we realize they do battle other pro athletes? And get consistently beat?

Btw....are you really "battling" with other bigs if you are consistently outrebounded by Avery Bradley?

If our bigs aren't soft then Avery is He Man Master of the Universe.
Title: Re: Why can't we rebound like this all the time?
Post by: RockinRyA on March 21, 2017, 11:58:13 AM
Because our bigs are soft

Nothing as gutless as anonymous internet posters calling pro athletes battling with other 7', 250 pound pro athletes soft.

This thread is soft.
Oh those poor poor pro athletes getting consistently outrebounded. How dare we? Don't we realize they do battle other pro athletes? And get consistently beat?

Btw....are you really "battling" with other bigs if you are consistently outrebounded by Avery Bradley?

If our bigs aren't soft then Avery is He Man Master of the Universe.

Still, his point stands. "Nothing as gutless as anonymous internet posters calling pro athletes battling with other 7', 250 pound pro athletes soft."
Title: Re: Why can't we rebound like this all the time?
Post by: Eja117 on March 21, 2017, 12:25:28 PM
Because our bigs are soft

Nothing as gutless as anonymous internet posters calling pro athletes battling with other 7', 250 pound pro athletes soft.

This thread is soft.
Oh those poor poor pro athletes getting consistently outrebounded. How dare we? Don't we realize they do battle other pro athletes? And get consistently beat?

Btw....are you really "battling" with other bigs if you are consistently outrebounded by Avery Bradley?

If our bigs aren't soft then Avery is He Man Master of the Universe.

Still, his point stands. "Nothing as gutless as anonymous internet posters calling pro athletes battling with other 7', 250 pound pro athletes soft."
Give me a radio or tv contract and I'll say it all day.

He gets $25 million to play soft and lazy

I get nothing to say what everyone sees publicly and is thinking.

Also the point doesn't stand because I've said it out loud on social media many times. What do you suppose posters are afraid of? That Al Horford will come to our houses? That other posters will disagree with us?

Doesn't change that they bigs are soft.

I guess by this theory the posters that are the cheerleaders are very courageous.
Title: Re: Why can't we rebound like this all the time?
Post by: saltlover on March 21, 2017, 01:04:24 PM
Them losing Gortat probably helped out a lot. It seemed like 2 of Jason Smith, Markief Morris and Otto Porter were their big guys for most of the night, and we exploited that. Even IT rebounded well.
I missed the game, but if Gortat went down, that explains a lot.

Gortat didn't go down.  He's been ineffective the last month or so, and was benched.  He's 34, and was run into the ground early in the year.  He averaged 35 minutes in October/November, over 36 minutes in December, 32-33 minutes in January and February, and under 24 minutes in March.

I've been saying for months that the Wizards were going to crash late in the season, because they relied way too much on their starters early on in the season, and that is coming home to roost.

Gonna need a source on that, I was there and he ran into the lockerroom. I didn't see him come back out though I'm not certain about that, but I'm certain he ran down the tunnel.

I was watching the Wizards broadcast (I live in DC) and a) he was on the bench in uniform, and b) they did not say he was unavailable to return.  I've found nothing that says he was hurt, and it's tough to provide a source for a negative statement (that he was not hurt).  It looked like they just stuck with Jason Smith.  Gortat had a -7 rating yesterday in only 12 minutes.  He's been at a -4.4 per 100 possessions this month (he's been positive every other month this season, generally far above zero).  I'm fairly sure this was a lineup switch because he's played poorly all month, Smith was playing well, and they wanted to win the game.  As I said, they've already his minutes by over 25% from February into March, and his lack of minutes was an extension of that.
Title: Re: Why can't we rebound like this all the time?
Post by: kozlodoev on March 21, 2017, 01:06:15 PM
Give me a radio or tv contract and I'll say it all day.
Sorry, Felger's got that market cornered ;)
Title: Re: Why can't we rebound like this all the time?
Post by: smokeablount on March 21, 2017, 01:54:21 PM
Them losing Gortat probably helped out a lot. It seemed like 2 of Jason Smith, Markief Morris and Otto Porter were their big guys for most of the night, and we exploited that. Even IT rebounded well.
I missed the game, but if Gortat went down, that explains a lot.

Gortat didn't go down.  He's been ineffective the last month or so, and was benched.  He's 34, and was run into the ground early in the year.  He averaged 35 minutes in October/November, over 36 minutes in December, 32-33 minutes in January and February, and under 24 minutes in March.

I've been saying for months that the Wizards were going to crash late in the season, because they relied way too much on their starters early on in the season, and that is coming home to roost.

Gonna need a source on that, I was there and he ran into the lockerroom. I didn't see him come back out though I'm not certain about that, but I'm certain he ran down the tunnel.

I was watching the Wizards broadcast (I live in DC) and a) he was on the bench in uniform, and b) they did not say he was unavailable to return.  I've found nothing that says he was hurt, and it's tough to provide a source for a negative statement (that he was not hurt).  It looked like they just stuck with Jason Smith.  Gortat had a -7 rating yesterday in only 12 minutes.  He's been at a -4.4 per 100 possessions this month (he's been positive every other month this season, generally far above zero).  I'm fairly sure this was a lineup switch because he's played poorly all month, Smith was playing well, and they wanted to win the game.  As I said, they've already his minutes by over 25% from February into March, and his lack of minutes was an extension of that.

Sounds credible to me, except the part about playing Jason Smith because they wanted to win  ;).  I wonder why he ran into the locker room.  Bathroom break?
Title: Re: Why can't we rebound like this all the time?
Post by: Eja117 on March 21, 2017, 02:21:48 PM
Give me a radio or tv contract and I'll say it all day.
Sorry, Felger's got that market cornered ;)
See that's a very good conversation.

Is Felger gutless or courageous?  I lean towards him being a tad tough because he's an outsider saying things we don't necessarily want to hear, but I don't think it takes a ton of guts to be a pessimist or a devil's advocate.