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Title: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: FLCeltsFan on March 05, 2017, 10:09:38 PM
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Boston Celtics (40-23) at Los Angeles Clippers (37-25)
Monday, March 6, 2017
10:30 PM ET
Regular Season Game #64, Road Game #34
TV: TNT, CSNNE, Prime Ticket
Radio: 100.7 WZLX, AM570 LA Sports
Staples Center

(http://inquisidor71.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/staplescenter.jpg)

Probable Starting Matchups
Point Guard

(http://ak-static.cms.nba.com/wp-content/uploads/headshots/nba/latest/260x190/202738.png) vs (http://ak-static.cms.nba.com/wp-content/uploads/headshots/nba/latest/260x190/101108.png)
Isaiah Thomas vs Chris Paul

Shooting Guard
(http://ak-static.cms.nba.com/wp-content/uploads/headshots/nba/latest/260x190/202340.png) vs (http://ak-static.cms.nba.com/wp-content/uploads/headshots/nba/latest/260x190/200755.png)
Avery Bradley vs JJ Redick

Small Forward
(http://ak-static.cms.nba.com/wp-content/uploads/headshots/nba/latest/260x190/203109.png) vs (http://ak-static.cms.nba.com/wp-content/uploads/headshots/nba/latest/260x190/201601.png)
Jae Crowder vs Luc Mbah a Moute

Power Forward
(http://ak-static.cms.nba.com/wp-content/uploads/headshots/nba/latest/260x190/201973.png) vs (http://ak-static.cms.nba.com/wp-content/uploads/headshots/nba/latest/260x190/201933.png)
Jonas Jerebko vs Blake Griffin

Center
(http://ak-static.cms.nba.com/wp-content/uploads/headshots/nba/latest/260x190/101161.png) vs (http://ak-static.cms.nba.com/wp-content/uploads/headshots/nba/latest/260x190/201599.png)
Amir Johnson vs DeAndre Jordan

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Celtics Reserves
Marcus Smart
Gerald Green
Terry Rozier
James Young
Tyler Zeller
Kelly Olynyk
Demetrius Jackson
Jordan Mickey

Injuries
Avery Bradley (hamstring) probable
Al Horford (elbow) questionable

Head Coach

Brad Stevens

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/56/Clippers_vs_Suns.jpg/320px-Clippers_vs_Suns.jpg)

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Clippers Reserves
Alan Anderson
Brandon Bass
Jamal Crawford
Raymond Felton
Brice Johnson
Wesley Johnson
Paul Pierce
Austin Rivers
Marreese Speights
Diamond Stone

Injuries

Brice Johnson (knee) questionable

Head Coach
Doc Rivers

Game Notes
The Celtics come off a heartbreaking loss to the Phoenix Suns to take on the Los Angeles Clippers for the second and final time this season.   The Celtics won the first meeting in Boston 107-102 in an emotional game as Paul Pierce played his last game at the TD Garden.  They were missing Chris Paul in that game but he is back for the Clippers now. 

The schedule makers didn't do the Celtics any favors when they scheduled this trip.  They played the Lakers at the Staples Center on Friday and instead of staying in LA to play the Clippers in the same building, they scheduled a trip to Phoenix for Sunday and a turn around to play the Clippers on Monday back at the Staples Center. 

The Celtics are playing on the second night of back to back games.  The short handed Celtics lost to the Suns on Sunday as Tyler Ulis hit a last second shot to give the Suns the win.  The Celtics are 9-5 on the second night of back to back games.  This is their first back to back set where both games are on the road. 

Both teams are 6-4 in their last 10 games.  Since the All Star break, the Celtics are 3-3.  The Clippers are 2-4 since the break.  Both teams have dealt with injuries.  The Celtics were finally healthy for a couple of games and then injuries hit once again.  The Clippers finally got Chris Paul back and are mostly healthy now.  The Celtics are 19-14 on the road while the Clippers are 19-10 at home.

Avery Bradley missed the game against the Suns with a sore hamstring but it sounded like it was mostly precautionary and Avery said that he planned to play in this game.  Whether the  training staff lets him play remains to be seen.  If Avery can't play, expect Jaylen Brown to start in his place. 

Al Horford also missed the game against the Suns.  He reportedly sprained his elbow going for a block against the LA Lakers on Friday night.  There was no timetable given for his return but it wasn't considered to be serious so hopefully he will return soon.  They could really use him in this game against Blake Griffin.  If he can't play, Jonas Jerebko will more than likely get the start once again.  Diamond Stone is questionable for the Clippers with a knee injury.

While not as emotional as Paul Pierce's final game in the Garden,  this should be an emotional game for The Truth as he faces the team that he played with for 15 seasons for the final time.  I imagine that Doc Rivers will encourage the Clippers to beat his former team.  It can't sit will with him that the team that he left for a contender because he didn't want to go through a rebuild has a better record than his current team. 

Standings Reset
The Celtics dropped to 3 games behind the idle Cavaliers.  Washington scored a 1 point win over the Magic, who led most of the game, to move to within 2 games of the Celtics.  The idle Raptors moved to 3 games behind the Celtics.  Atlanta is 5 games behind the Celtics. 

The Cavaliers play at Miami, the team that beat them by 28 points in Cleveland on Friday.    The Hawks host the Golden State Warriors. The Wizards and Raptors are off on Monday night.


Key Matchups

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Jonas Jerebko vs Blake Griffin
Griffin is averaging 22.2 points, 8.6 rebounds, and 5.1 assists per game.  He is very athletic and is always a threat to score and to grab rebounds for second chance points.  The Celtics need to keep him off the boards and must stay with him on defense to keep him from having a big game. 
Griffin is shooting 44% from beyond the arc in his last 10 games and so it will be important to cover him on the three point line as well as driving to the basket.

(http://ak-static.cms.nba.com/wp-content/uploads/headshots/nba/latest/260x190/202738.png) vs (http://ak-static.cms.nba.com/wp-content/uploads/headshots/nba/latest/260x190/101108.png)
Isaiah Thomas vs Chris Paul
Chris Paul missed the first meeting between these two teams but should be good to go for this one.  He is averaging 17.5 points, 9.7 assists, and 2.2 steals per game.  This is another team with tough back courts to defend.  Expect Marcus, Avery, Jaylen or Jae to try to keep Chris Paul in check if he begins to have a big game.

Honorable Mention
Avery Bradley vs JJ Redick
Hopefully Avery will be good to go because his defense will be needed to keep Redick from having a big game.  He is averaging 14.8 points, and shooting 43.7% from the field and 41.6% from beyond the arc.  It will be key to keep a good defender on him at all times. 

Keys to the Game
Defense - Defense wins games and the Celtics need to play tough team defense.  The Clippers average 107.9 points per game and so the Celtics will need to slow them down and not get into a shoot out with them. The Celtics defense has been up and down this season but they will need to make it a priority in this game.   

Rebound - The Celtics can't score if they don't have the ball. Much of rebounding is effort and desire and so the Celtics must put out the extra effort on the boards to give themselves extra possessions as well as to limit the Clippers fast break opportunities and second chance points. The Clippers will easily turn rebounds into points.  The Clippers average 43.3 rebounds per game while the Celtics average 41.4 rebounds per game.  They have to  put in the work to win the battle of the boards. 

Energy and Effort - The Celtics have to come out with energy and have to play harder than the Clippers.  100% effort from every Celtic will be needed to get a win in this one, especially if either Bradley or Horford or both can't play.   They have to be the more aggressive team and be the team that wants it more.  The Celtics will have to play harder and with more effort.

Take Care of the Ball - The Celtics need to move the ball to find the open man but they need to make careful passes and not turn the ball over.  At times the Celtics seem to lose focus and get careless and turn the ball over several times in a row.   The Clippers will turn those miscues into points on the other end. 

Play 48 Minutes - The Celtics seem to play very well at times, sometimes starting off strong and sometimes finishing strong. But then at other times, they seem to fade away after a fast start or they start out sluggish and have to spend the rest of the game playing catch up.  They have to make an effort to play hard and keep their focus from the starting tip until the final buzzer. 

X-Factors
Focus on the Road- The Celtics are playing the 3rd game of a tough 5 game road trip.  They are 1-1 so far after an easy win over the Lakers and a heartbreaking loss to the Suns.  They have the Golden State Warriors coming up on Wednesday but they can't afford to look ahead.  They have to focus on the game at hand and block out all the distractions of playing on the road. 

Officiating - The officiating is an x factor for every game.  Every officiating crew calls games differently.  Some call every little foul making it difficult to get any rhythm and some let the teams play.  Some refs have an agenda and call the game for or against a particular team or player.  And there are always star calls no matter who the referees are.  Expect Chris Paul and Blake Griffin to get their share of those.   Regardless of how the game is called, the Celtics need to play through it and keep their focus.   
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: SparzWizard on March 05, 2017, 10:10:46 PM
Thanks FLCeltsFan!
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: Ogaju on March 05, 2017, 10:10:56 PM
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Boston Celtics (40-23) at Los Angeles Clippers (37-25)
Monday, March 6, 2017
10:30 PM ET
Regular Season Game #64, Road Game #34
TV: TNT, CSNNE, Prime Ticket
Radio: 100.7 WZLX, AM570 LA Sports
Staples Center

(http://inquisidor71.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/staplescenter.jpg)

Probable Starting Matchups
Point Guard

(http://ak-static.cms.nba.com/wp-content/uploads/headshots/nba/latest/260x190/202738.png) vs (http://ak-static.cms.nba.com/wp-content/uploads/headshots/nba/latest/260x190/101108.png)
Isaiah Thomas vs Chris Paul

Shooting Guard
(http://ak-static.cms.nba.com/wp-content/uploads/headshots/nba/latest/260x190/202340.png) vs (http://ak-static.cms.nba.com/wp-content/uploads/headshots/nba/latest/260x190/200755.png)
Avery Bradley vs JJ Redick

Small Forward
(http://ak-static.cms.nba.com/wp-content/uploads/headshots/nba/latest/260x190/203109.png) vs (http://ak-static.cms.nba.com/wp-content/uploads/headshots/nba/latest/260x190/201601.png)
Jae Crowder vs Luc Mbah a Moute

Power Forward
(http://ak-static.cms.nba.com/wp-content/uploads/headshots/nba/latest/260x190/201973.png) vs (http://ak-static.cms.nba.com/wp-content/uploads/headshots/nba/latest/260x190/201933.png)
Jonas Jerebko vs Blake Griffin

Center
(http://ak-static.cms.nba.com/wp-content/uploads/headshots/nba/latest/260x190/101161.png) vs (http://ak-static.cms.nba.com/wp-content/uploads/headshots/nba/latest/260x190/201599.png)
Amir Johnson vs DeAndre Jordan

(http://www.sportsecyclopedia.com/nba/boston/00-Celticslogos.gif)
Celtics Reserves
Marcus Smart
Gerald Green
Terry Rozier
James Young
Tyler Zeller
Kelly Olynyk
Demetrius Jackson
Jordan Mickey

Injuries
Avery Bradley (hamstring) probable
Al Horford (elbow) questionable

Head Coach

Brad Stevens

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/56/Clippers_vs_Suns.jpg/320px-Clippers_vs_Suns.jpg)

(http://www.sportsecyclopedia.com/nba/lac/00-LAclipperslogos.gif)
Clippers Reserves
Alan Anderson
Brandon Bass
Jamal Crawford
Raymond Felton
Brice Johnson
Wesley Johnson
Paul Pierce
Austin Rivers
Marreese Speights
Diamond Stone

Injuries

Brice Johnson (knee) questionable

Head Coach
Doc Rivers

Game Notes
The Celtics come off a heartbreaking loss to the Phoenix Suns to take on the Los Angeles Clippers for the second and final time this season.   The Celtics won the first meeting in Boston 107-102 in an emotional game as Paul Pierce played his last game at the TD Garden.  They were missing Chris Paul in that game but he is back for the Clippers now. 

The schedule makers didn't do the Celtics any favors when they scheduled this trip.  They played the Lakers at the Staples Center on Friday and instead of staying in LA to play the Clippers in the same building, they scheduled a trip to Phoenix for Sunday and a turn around to play the Clippers on Monday back at the Staples Center. 

The Celtics are playing on the second night of back to back games.  The short handed Celtics lost to the Suns on Sunday as Tyler Ulis hit a last second shot to give the Suns the win.  The Celtics are 9-5 on the second night of back to back games.  This is their first back to back set where both games are on the road. 

Both teams are 6-4 in their last 10 games.  Since the All Star break, the Celtics are 3-3.  The Clippers are 2-4 since the break.  Both teams have dealt with injuries.  The Celtics were finally healthy for a couple of games and then injuries hit once again.  The Clippers finally got Chris Paul back and are mostly healthy now.  The Celtics are 19-14 on the road while the Clippers are 19-10 at home.

Avery Bradley missed the game against the Suns with a sore hamstring but it sounded like it was mostly precautionary and Avery said that he planned to play in this game.  Whether the  training staff lets him play remains to be seen.  If Avery can't play, expect Jaylen Brown to start in his place. 

Al Horford also missed the game against the Suns.  He reportedly sprained his elbow going for a block against the LA Lakers on Friday night.  There was no timetable given for his return but it wasn't considered to be serious so hopefully he will return soon.  They could really use him in this game against Blake Griffin.  If he can't play, Jonas Jerebko will more than likely get the start once again.  Diamond Stone is questionable for the Clippers with a knee injury.

While not as emotional as Paul Pierce's final game in the Garden,  this should be an emotional game for The Truth as he faces the team that he played with for 15 seasons for the final time.  I imagine that Doc Rivers will encourage the Clippers to beat his former team.  It can't sit will with him that the team that he left for a contender because he didn't want to go through a rebuild has a better record than his current team. 

Standings Reset
The Celtics dropped to 3 games behind the idle Cavaliers.  Washington scored a 1 point win over the Magic, who led most of the game, to move to within 2 games of the Celtics.  The idle Raptors moved to 3 games behind the Celtics.  Atlanta is 5 games behind the Celtics. 

The Cavaliers play at Miami, the team that beat them by 28 points in Cleveland on Friday.    The Hawks host the Golden State Warriors. The Wizards and Raptors are off on Monday night.


Key Matchups

(http://ak-static.cms.nba.com/wp-content/uploads/headshots/nba/latest/260x190/201973.png) vs (http://ak-static.cms.nba.com/wp-content/uploads/headshots/nba/latest/260x190/201933.png)
Jonas Jerebko vs Blake Griffin
Griffin is averaging 22.2 points, 8.6 rebounds, and 5.1 assists per game.  He is very athletic and is always a threat to score and to grab rebounds for second chance points.  The Celtics need to keep him off the boards and must stay with him on defense to keep him from having a big game. 
Griffin is shooting 44% from beyond the arc in his last 10 games and so it will be important to cover him on the three point line as well as driving to the basket.

(http://ak-static.cms.nba.com/wp-content/uploads/headshots/nba/latest/260x190/202738.png) vs (http://ak-static.cms.nba.com/wp-content/uploads/headshots/nba/latest/260x190/101108.png)
Isaiah Thomas vs Chris Paul
Chris Paul missed the first meeting between these two teams but should be good to go for this one.  He is averaging 17.5 points, 9.7 assists, and 2.2 steals per game.  This is another team with tough back courts to defend.  Expect Marcus, Avery, Jaylen or Jae to try to keep Chris Paul in check if he begins to have a big game.

Honorable Mention
Avery Bradley vs JJ Redick
Hopefully Avery will be good to go because his defense will be needed to keep Redick from having a big game.  He is averaging 14.8 points, and shooting 43.7% from the field and 41.6% from beyond the arc.  It will be key to keep a good defender on him at all times. 

Keys to the Game
Defense - Defense wins games and the Celtics need to play tough team defense.  The Clippers average 107.9 points per game and so the Celtics will need to slow them down and not get into a shoot out with them. The Celtics defense has been up and down this season but they will need to make it a priority in this game.   

Rebound - The Celtics can't score if they don't have the ball. Much of rebounding is effort and desire and so the Celtics must put out the extra effort on the boards to give themselves extra possessions as well as to limit the Clippers fast break opportunities and second chance points. The Clippers will easily turn rebounds into points.  The Clippers average 43.3 rebounds per game while the Celtics average 41.4 rebounds per game.  They have to  put in the work to win the battle of the boards. 

Energy and Effort - The Celtics have to come out with energy and have to play harder than the Clippers.  100% effort from every Celtic will be needed to get a win in this one, especially if either Bradley or Horford or both can't play.   They have to be the more aggressive team and be the team that wants it more.  The Celtics will have to play harder and with more effort.

Take Care of the Ball - The Celtics need to move the ball to find the open man but they need to make careful passes and not turn the ball over.  At times the Celtics seem to lose focus and get careless and turn the ball over several times in a row.   The Clippers will turn those miscues into points on the other end. 

Play 48 Minutes - The Celtics seem to play very well at times, sometimes starting off strong and sometimes finishing strong. But then at other times, they seem to fade away after a fast start or they start out sluggish and have to spend the rest of the game playing catch up.  They have to make an effort to play hard and keep their focus from the starting tip until the final buzzer. 

X-Factors
Focus on the Road- The Celtics are playing the 3rd game of a tough 5 game road trip.  They are 1-1 so far after an easy win over the Lakers and a heartbreaking loss to the Suns.  They have the Golden State Warriors coming up on Wednesday but they can't afford to look ahead.  They have to focus on the game at hand and block out all the distractions of playing on the road. 

Officiating - The officiating is an x factor for every game.  Every officiating crew calls games differently.  Some call every little foul making it difficult to get any rhythm and some let the teams play.  Some refs have an agenda and call the game for or against a particular team or player.  And there are always star calls no matter who the referees are.  Expect Chris Paul and Blake Griffin to get their share of those.   Regardless of how the game is called, the Celtics need to play through it and keep their focus.   

Go Celtics
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: FLCeltsFan on March 05, 2017, 10:11:20 PM
TP to SparzWizard for being the first to post in the game thread!!!


Goooooooooooooooooooooo Celtics!!!! 
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: Ogaju on March 05, 2017, 10:11:25 PM
1st

TP FlcF............

For a great game thread. Lets get this one against the Clippers.

Edit: SW ...got first position.. lol
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: hwangjini_1 on March 05, 2017, 10:12:11 PM
1st
next to other posters!

such is life sometimes. but at least we all have another fabulous game thread from flc, which means the celtics will actually hit their [dang]ed free throws for this game!!!  >:(

a tp for flc, as ever.

and, as ever, goooooooooooo celtics!!!!
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: FLCeltsFan on March 05, 2017, 10:14:04 PM
And a TP to Ogaju for missing first by just 10 seconds.   

Goooo Celtics!!!! 
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: FLCeltsFan on March 05, 2017, 10:19:30 PM
1st
next to other posters!

such is life sometimes. but at least we all have another fabulous game thread from flc, which means the celtics will actually hit their [dang]ed free throws for this game!!!  >:(

a tp for flc, as ever.

and, as ever, goooooooooooo celtics!!!!
And a TP to hwangjini for always giving me a smile and being very close to first.    I'm surprised that you didn't mention the flasks at the top - After that loss to the Suns,  I think we all need a drink or two.  (Although I'll make mine Apple Cider :) ) 
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: hwangjini_1 on March 06, 2017, 12:00:44 AM
1st
next to other posters!

such is life sometimes. but at least we all have another fabulous game thread from flc, which means the celtics will actually hit their [dang]ed free throws for this game!!!  >:(

a tp for flc, as ever.

and, as ever, goooooooooooo celtics!!!!
And a TP to hwangjini for always giving me a smile and being very close to first.    I'm surprised that you didn't mention the flasks at the top - After that loss to the Suns,  I think we all need a drink or two.  (Although I'll make mine Apple Cider :) )
Ha, ha, ha. I almost did mention them. But i thought we all didn't anymore encouragement after the suns game.  ;) and by the way, apple cider can be pretty strong stuff. ;D

P.s. Really terrific game thread once more flc. Here is an extra tp, just... because.
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: hodgy03038 on March 06, 2017, 06:34:55 AM
Go Celts! This will be tough especially on the boards.
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: Surferdad on March 06, 2017, 07:22:10 AM
No way I can watch this one live.  Wash the PHO loss right out of your hair.  GO CELTICS.
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: Phantom255x on March 06, 2017, 04:27:43 PM
Celtics do seem to "answer the call" coming off horrible losses/losing stretches.

Last season, they were struggling, losing quite a bit for a stretch, then ended the Warriors 54-game home winning streak on April Fools Day.

A week ago, blowout loss to ATL, lost to Toronto, but came back and beat Cleveland.

Hopefully the C's are "hungry" tonight and come out strong. Need a W. MUST-WIN.

Warriors Wednesday night. Can't afford to go 0-3 from Sunday through Thursday.
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: hodgy03038 on March 06, 2017, 04:52:29 PM
Has anyone heard anything on Horford? I haven't seen anything.
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: FLCeltsFan on March 06, 2017, 06:08:54 PM
Has anyone heard anything on Horford? I haven't seen anything.
Latest is that both Avery and Horford are game time decisions.  Avery more likely to play than Horford. 
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: LaBran Jaymes on March 06, 2017, 07:20:20 PM
This will be a tough game. We will need to focus fire.
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: hwangjini_1 on March 06, 2017, 07:24:01 PM
This will be a tough game. We will need to focus fire.
Welcome to cb, and have a tp. No one here should have zero tps.   ;D
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: trickybilly on March 06, 2017, 07:30:43 PM
Has anyone heard anything on Horford? I haven't seen anything.
Latest is that both Avery and Horford are game time decisions.  Avery more likely to play than Horford.

Rest Horford at all costs I say. DO NOT want to be without him come playoffs.
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: Phantom255x on March 06, 2017, 07:36:55 PM
Has anyone heard anything on Horford? I haven't seen anything.
Latest is that both Avery and Horford are game time decisions.  Avery more likely to play than Horford.

Rest Horford at all costs I say. DO NOT want to be without him come playoffs.

Yeah we NEED him in the playoffs.

Without him our front court is trash to a whole new level (and even with him it's bad - though that's not really on Horford either).
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: tarheelsxxiii on March 06, 2017, 07:40:27 PM
Nice to see another scheduled win here.  We will be sitting pretty at 41-23 by the end of the night.
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: mctyson on March 06, 2017, 07:51:10 PM
Has anyone heard anything on Horford? I haven't seen anything.
Latest is that both Avery and Horford are game time decisions.  Avery more likely to play than Horford.

Rest Horford at all costs I say. DO NOT want to be without him come playoffs.

Sneaky reality but the Celtics have kind of been doing that with all players this season.  They know they are good and know they need everyone healthy come playoffs.
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: FLCeltsFan on March 06, 2017, 08:51:28 PM
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Just spoke to @celtics Avery Bradley. He said he's "definitely" playing tonight vs #LAClippers. #Celticstalk
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: hpantazo on March 06, 2017, 08:53:44 PM
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Just spoke to @celtics Avery Bradley. He said he's "definitely" playing tonight vs #LAClippers. #Celticstalk

Great news! Hopefully Horforfd is back too, we need him more than Bradley.
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: Ogaju on March 06, 2017, 09:08:28 PM
At LA Live having dinner before game. It is amazing how many Celtics fans here. Hope we get this win gooooooo Celtics.
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: jpotter33 on March 06, 2017, 09:18:56 PM
Good grief - Al (elbow) and JJ (flu) both out tonight. Freaking small ball galore.

EDIT: Fifth starter still yet to be determined. I'm not sure who would be best. Our two best options to guard Blake in Al and JJ are out, so I guess you have to go Kelly? But he's been so objectively bad lately that he might go Mickey. Could just fully commit to small ball and go IT, AB, Brown, Crowder, and Amir. At least we'd be difficult to guard.
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: Phantom255x on March 06, 2017, 09:37:12 PM
Good grief - Al (elbow) and JJ (flu) both out tonight. Freaking small ball galore.

Well they did say it wasn't serious.

So Al Horford is out until the playoffs with that logic..  :laugh:

(That wouldn't be too bad though. 100% healthy for playoffs? Yes please.)
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: RockinRyA on March 06, 2017, 09:43:36 PM
Good grief - Al (elbow) and JJ (flu) both out tonight. Freaking small ball galore.

EDIT: Fifth starter still yet to be determined. I'm not sure who would be best. Our two best options to guard Blake in Al and JJ are out, so I guess you have to go Kelly? But he's been so objectively bad lately that he might go Mickey. Could just fully commit to small ball and go IT, AB, Brown, Crowder, and Amir. At least we'd be difficult to guard.

Yeah I'd go with that lineup. Don't wanna start Kelly and end up having no backup. At least 1 of Kelly or Amir should be playing at all times. The question is who is gonna sub Crowder? Coz I dont trust Mickey.
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: Phantom255x on March 06, 2017, 09:58:10 PM
Cleveland lost. Another opportunity. Better take this C's.
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: jpotter33 on March 06, 2017, 09:59:13 PM
Good grief - Al (elbow) and JJ (flu) both out tonight. Freaking small ball galore.

EDIT: Fifth starter still yet to be determined. I'm not sure who would be best. Our two best options to guard Blake in Al and JJ are out, so I guess you have to go Kelly? But he's been so objectively bad lately that he might go Mickey. Could just fully commit to small ball and go IT, AB, Brown, Crowder, and Amir. At least we'd be difficult to guard.

Yeah I'd go with that lineup. Don't wanna start Kelly and end up having no backup. At least 1 of Kelly or Amir should be playing at all times. The question is who is gonna sub Crowder? Coz I dont trust Mickey.

You're probably right. Blake would foul out KO rather quickly. At least that small unit would give IT plenty of spacing to penetrate and plenty of shooting around him.
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: Vox_Populi on March 06, 2017, 10:10:03 PM
Losing games like yesterday's really reduce the margin for error on nights where a win is very unlikely, like tonight. Celtics haven't been playing well their last 6 or so games barring the game against Cleveland. Won't care if they lose really, since they're heavily outmatched and tired, but I hope they look better.
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: Denis998 on March 06, 2017, 10:10:54 PM
This is going to be a rough one, I feel that Zeller is going to start today
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: jambr380 on March 06, 2017, 10:16:51 PM
At LA Live having dinner before game. It is amazing how many Celtics fans here. Hope we get this win gooooooo Celtics.

I was in LA last on the weekend last month when the Cs played the Lakers and Clips...unfortunately, both were home games for us (luckily I was in Vegas for the Pats Super Bowl, though). Have a great time!
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: Chief on March 06, 2017, 10:41:15 PM
This is going to be a rough one, I feel that Zeller is going to start today

 :'(
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: jpotter33 on March 06, 2017, 10:43:02 PM
This is going to be a rough one, I feel that Zeller is going to start today

 :'(

Robb is saying they're starting small, but doesn't give an actual player. I'm guessing it's Brown. I guess we'll see in a minute at tip-off.
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: BitterJim on March 06, 2017, 10:45:38 PM
So it looks like Jaylen gets the start. Good to see, but Jae needs to cover Blake and that won't be easy
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: mr. dee on March 06, 2017, 10:45:55 PM
Starting 5: IT-AB-JB-JC-AJ
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: Clench123 on March 06, 2017, 10:46:05 PM
[dang], Al is out again?
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: max215 on March 06, 2017, 10:46:07 PM
I don't have high hopes for this one, but go Celts!
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: BitterJim on March 06, 2017, 10:46:10 PM
This is going to be a rough one, I feel that Zeller is going to start today

 :'(

Robb is saying they're starting small, but doesn't give an actual player. I'm guessing it's Brown. I guess we'll see in a minute at tip-off.

It is Brown
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: JSD on March 06, 2017, 10:46:23 PM
JB starting at the 4
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: Clench123 on March 06, 2017, 10:47:17 PM
I don't have high hopes for this one, but go Celts!

Yeah, me either.
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: BitterJim on March 06, 2017, 10:47:31 PM
JB starting at the 4

Brown at the 3, Jae at the 4. Brown can't cover Blake at all, Crowder can at least get in the way
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: RockinRyA on March 06, 2017, 10:48:06 PM
This is going to be a rough one, I feel that Zeller is going to start today

 :'(

Lol I totally forgot Zeller was still in the lineup. I was already thinking about Mickey as the only other big off the bench aside from Olynyk.
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: liam on March 06, 2017, 10:49:27 PM
Slow start...
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: jpotter33 on March 06, 2017, 10:49:56 PM
That's a ridiculous three by IT.
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: liam on March 06, 2017, 10:50:44 PM
That's a ridiculous three by IT.

And our only bucket so far!
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: blink on March 06, 2017, 10:51:08 PM
oh dear DJ fro the line...
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: jpotter33 on March 06, 2017, 10:51:29 PM
Rookie refs.  ::)
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: max215 on March 06, 2017, 10:51:38 PM
Greeaaaaaaaaaaat Isaiah has 2 fouls.
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: liam on March 06, 2017, 10:53:02 PM
Greeaaaaaaaaaaat Isaiah has 2 fouls.

Chris Paul is the master of forcing these cheap fouls...
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: mr. dee on March 06, 2017, 10:53:18 PM
Brad should put Brown with the second unit and swap him with Jerebko. Clipper's size is just too much for this small ball lineup.
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: jpotter33 on March 06, 2017, 10:53:57 PM
Crowder and Brown are really going to have to hit the boards for us to have a chance tonight.
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: liam on March 06, 2017, 10:54:29 PM
Brad should put Brown with the second unit and swap him with Jerebko. Clipper's size is just too much for this small ball lineup.

Brown has all our rebounds so far!
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: jpotter33 on March 06, 2017, 10:54:45 PM
Brad should put Brown with the second unit and swap him with Jerebko. Clipper's size is just too much for this small ball lineup.

JJ is out with the flu.
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: Chief on March 06, 2017, 10:54:53 PM
Our bench unit scares me tonight 

Please ko!
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: jpotter33 on March 06, 2017, 10:55:08 PM
Sounds like a TON of C's fans in LA. I LOVE IT!!
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: max215 on March 06, 2017, 10:55:18 PM
Awesome effort by Jaylen!
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: Chief on March 06, 2017, 10:56:17 PM
Nice pass.
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: liam on March 06, 2017, 10:56:23 PM
Awesome effort by Jaylen!

He's gonna have to have a big night tonight!
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: liam on March 06, 2017, 10:57:11 PM
Nice pass.

Beauty
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: Chief on March 06, 2017, 10:57:15 PM
Get up rookie!
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: jpotter33 on March 06, 2017, 10:57:27 PM
Awesome effort by Jaylen!

Really actually reminded me of Griffin with that powerful first step going to the basket.
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: liam on March 06, 2017, 10:57:31 PM
Brown!
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: liam on March 06, 2017, 10:58:32 PM
Lot of cheap shots taken on Brown! Unleash Kelly ; )
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: jpotter33 on March 06, 2017, 10:58:39 PM
These announcers are awesome lol I love Mchale, and Rip and Anthony are pretty good, too.
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: liam on March 06, 2017, 10:59:37 PM
These announcers are awesome lol I love Mchale, and Rip and Anthony are pretty good, too.

McHale and Tommy are my current favorites...
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: mr. dee on March 06, 2017, 11:00:05 PM
What's with this long review in the 1st Q?
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: BitterJim on March 06, 2017, 11:00:21 PM
Glad to see that wasn't a flagrant, that was incidental contact
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: liam on March 06, 2017, 11:01:06 PM
What's with this long review in the 1st Q?

They always take too long. They need a video ref on the sidelines it would take two seconds!
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: liam on March 06, 2017, 11:01:31 PM
Go Jaylen!
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: liam on March 06, 2017, 11:03:01 PM
Wow, this game is going to take forever!
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: blink on March 06, 2017, 11:03:32 PM
how is the play where jaylen runs into Redick not a foul on someone??
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: Clench123 on March 06, 2017, 11:04:20 PM
I'm loving Jaylen.  Kid's got attitude...love it.
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: mr. dee on March 06, 2017, 11:05:33 PM
Nobody cares about Pierce outside Boston, unfortunately.
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: SHAQATTACK on March 06, 2017, 11:06:00 PM
how is the play where jaylen runs into Redick not a foul on someone??

It is in another dimension.
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: liam on March 06, 2017, 11:06:18 PM
I'm loving Jaylen.  Kid's got attitude...love it.

Me too! He won't back down. He's gonna be something else next year. I'm really enjoying this kid all the way from summer league. You can clean up your game but you can't teach talent!
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: mr. dee on March 06, 2017, 11:06:40 PM
Nice play by Smart
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: jpotter33 on March 06, 2017, 11:07:48 PM
Seriously, what is wrong with KO? The kid is completely sabotaging his contract this summer. He can't even hit wide open jumpers anymore. I remember in years past he was nearly automatic from there.
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: mr. dee on March 06, 2017, 11:08:39 PM
Should have dared Griffin to shoot that 3
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: liam on March 06, 2017, 11:08:49 PM
Seriously, what is wrong with KO? The kid is completely sabotaging his contract this summer.

There does look like something is wrong with him?
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: mr. dee on March 06, 2017, 11:09:16 PM
Seriously, what is wrong with KO? The kid is completely sabotaging his contract this summer.

There does look like something is wrong with him?

His hair already look so wrong  ;D
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: max215 on March 06, 2017, 11:10:57 PM
We're relying very heavily on jumpers. Take it to the hoop.
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: jpotter33 on March 06, 2017, 11:11:11 PM
What a block by Amir!!

I also think a win tonight would go a long way in having Griffin actually considering us this summer, if he even considers leaving LA at all.
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: SHAQATTACK on March 06, 2017, 11:11:29 PM
Seriously, what is wrong with KO? The kid is completely sabotaging his contract this summer.

There does look like something is wrong with him?

His hair already look so wrong  ;D

Coutee s
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: Chief on March 06, 2017, 11:12:12 PM
Seriously, what is wrong with KO? The kid is completely sabotaging his contract this summer. He can't even hit wide open jumpers anymore. I remember in years past he was nearly automatic from there.

He goes through hot and cold streaks like no one I can remember.  Hopefully he comes out of it tonight.
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: blink on March 06, 2017, 11:12:20 PM
What a block by Amir!!

I also think a win tonight would go a long way in having Griffin actually considering us this summer, if he even considers leaving LA at all.

Amir is quietly having a really good game..
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: liam on March 06, 2017, 11:12:32 PM
What a block by Amir!!

I also think a win tonight would go a long way in having Griffin actually considering us this summer, if he even considers leaving LA at all.

If they don't win this year, and I doubt they will, The Clippers need to break it up!
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: saltlover on March 06, 2017, 11:12:54 PM
I love that Brad got the entire quarter out of IT despite the two quick fouls.  So many coaches would have reflexively pulled him.
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: liam on March 06, 2017, 11:13:04 PM
What a block by Amir!!

I also think a win tonight would go a long way in having Griffin actually considering us this summer, if he even considers leaving LA at all.

Amir is quietly having a really good game..

It's one of his fountain of youth games.
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: hwangjini_1 on March 06, 2017, 11:13:10 PM
Can't watch the game, only play by play.  How the Celtics look so far?
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: jpotter33 on March 06, 2017, 11:13:10 PM
Question - are we a better defensive team without Horford?  There was an article I read today that was positing this.

I mean, having a 2/3/4/5 of AB, Jaylen, Jae, and Amir might make a bit more sense defensively than having Al at the 4. Sure, we're small and that hurts, but it's not like Al's presence would've helped that much on the boards anyways.
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: Chief on March 06, 2017, 11:13:21 PM
What a block by Amir!!

I also think a win tonight would go a long way in having Griffin actually considering us this summer, if he even considers leaving LA at all.

I think it's a good career move.
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: Chief on March 06, 2017, 11:14:24 PM
Can't watch the game, only play by play.  How the Celtics look so far?

Scrappy.  Marcus came to play.
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: liam on March 06, 2017, 11:14:35 PM
Can't watch the game, only play by play.  How the Celtics look so far?

The Celtics started a little slow but they look good tonight!
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: Denis998 on March 06, 2017, 11:15:51 PM
This is going to be a rough one, I feel that Zeller is going to start today

 :'(

Robb is saying they're starting small, but doesn't give an actual player. I'm guessing it's Brown. I guess we'll see in a minute at tip-off.
dodged a bullet there
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: jpotter33 on March 06, 2017, 11:15:51 PM
Question - are we a better defensive team without Horford?  There was an article I read today that was positing this.

I mean, having a 2/3/4/5 of AB, Jaylen, Jae, and Amir might make a bit more sense defensively than having Al at the 4. Sure, we're small and that hurts, but it's not like Al's presence would've helped that much on the boards anyways.

Just held a very offensively talented team to 22 in the first quarter.
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: saltlover on March 06, 2017, 11:16:03 PM
Question - are we a better defensive team without Horford?  There was an article I read today that was positing this.

I mean, having a 2/3/4/5 of AB, Jaylen, Jae, and Amir might make a bit more sense defensively than having Al at the 4. Sure, we're small and that hurts, but it's not like Al's presence would've helped that much on the boards anyways.

No, we are not.  Al in that lineup instead of Amir is superior.
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: Chief on March 06, 2017, 11:16:13 PM
KO can't get a break.
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: liam on March 06, 2017, 11:16:21 PM
Are we going to see Jackson tonight?
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: Denis998 on March 06, 2017, 11:16:22 PM
Can't watch the game, only play by play.  How the Celtics look so far?

Scrappy.  Marcus came to play.
like always :D
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: hwangjini_1 on March 06, 2017, 11:16:24 PM
Ahead after one quarter and on the road. Not a bad start.

And thanks for the info everyone. Tps abound. ;D
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: BitterJim on March 06, 2017, 11:19:08 PM
Question - are we a better defensive team without Horford?  There was an article I read today that was positing this.

I mean, having a 2/3/4/5 of AB, Jaylen, Jae, and Amir might make a bit more sense defensively than having Al at the 4. Sure, we're small and that hurts, but it's not like Al's presence would've helped that much on the boards anyways.

No, we are not.  Al in that lineup instead of Amir is superior.

Agreed. The problem isnt Al, it's that Amir and Al are a bad combo
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: liam on March 06, 2017, 11:20:05 PM
Cheap call on Jaylen there! Handcheck...
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: BitterJim on March 06, 2017, 11:20:58 PM
Such a Smart play there
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: liam on March 06, 2017, 11:21:22 PM
Rozier is a slow mo car wreak.
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: jpotter33 on March 06, 2017, 11:21:37 PM
Question - are we a better defensive team without Horford?  There was an article I read today that was positing this.

I mean, having a 2/3/4/5 of AB, Jaylen, Jae, and Amir might make a bit more sense defensively than having Al at the 4. Sure, we're small and that hurts, but it's not like Al's presence would've helped that much on the boards anyways.

No, we are not.  Al in that lineup instead of Amir is superior.

Oh, of course. But that's not what I was really meaning. I was meaning with just one traditional big in there. Of course an IT, AB, JB, JC, and AH fivesome would be better defensively.

EDIT: I was just wondering if even being this small we could be superior defensively.
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: mr. dee on March 06, 2017, 11:21:46 PM
Rozier strikes again ::)
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: liam on March 06, 2017, 11:22:34 PM
Rozier strikes again ::)

Brad must owe him money or something....
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: jpotter33 on March 06, 2017, 11:22:44 PM
Still not sure why Rozier is running the offense or handling the ball as much as he is with Smart in there.
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: Chief on March 06, 2017, 11:23:14 PM
When is the last time ko hit a three?
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: mr. dee on March 06, 2017, 11:23:18 PM
Nice hustle by Brown
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: Clench123 on March 06, 2017, 11:23:44 PM
Rosier (yea, I didn't spell his name right, sue me) is awful
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: liam on March 06, 2017, 11:23:47 PM
Jaylen got us an extra possession and Rozier burned it.
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: mr. dee on March 06, 2017, 11:24:07 PM
Doc is mad right now.
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: max215 on March 06, 2017, 11:24:39 PM
Oh, hopefully that's not a concussion.
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: Clench123 on March 06, 2017, 11:24:42 PM
Concussion
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: Chief on March 06, 2017, 11:24:55 PM
Does Young hit the shots in practice?
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: GratefulCs on March 06, 2017, 11:25:09 PM
is it a law that all clippers must snap their head back on every play?
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: mr. dee on March 06, 2017, 11:26:08 PM
Clippers are really cursed.
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: BitterJim on March 06, 2017, 11:26:24 PM
Does Young hit the shots in practice?

I don't know, but he's 10/27 (37%) so far this season, so he's done okay in games (although I think he's had a lot of open looks)
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Post by: jambr380 on March 06, 2017, 11:26:59 PM
Still not sure why Rozier is running the offense or handling the ball as much as he is with Smart in there.

Dude, be careful, tankcity might be watching!  :P
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Post by: saltlover on March 06, 2017, 11:26:59 PM
Question - are we a better defensive team without Horford?  There was an article I read today that was positing this.

I mean, having a 2/3/4/5 of AB, Jaylen, Jae, and Amir might make a bit more sense defensively than having Al at the 4. Sure, we're small and that hurts, but it's not like Al's presence would've helped that much on the boards anyways.

No, we are not.  Al in that lineup instead of Amir is superior.

Agreed. The problem isnt Al, it's that Amir and Al are a bad combo

Al and Amir are +7.7 per 100 possessions when on the court.  No player has a better net rating when paired with Horford.  There might be some noise in there, of course, but the data doesn't show that they are a bad combo.
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: liam on March 06, 2017, 11:28:38 PM
Rozier with a nice pass.
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Post by: jpotter33 on March 06, 2017, 11:29:00 PM
AB should never attempt alley-oop passes.
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Post by: liam on March 06, 2017, 11:29:17 PM
Jaylen is a cheap call magnet tonight!
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Post by: BitterJim on March 06, 2017, 11:29:27 PM
Question - are we a better defensive team without Horford?  There was an article I read today that was positing this.

I mean, having a 2/3/4/5 of AB, Jaylen, Jae, and Amir might make a bit more sense defensively than having Al at the 4. Sure, we're small and that hurts, but it's not like Al's presence would've helped that much on the boards anyways.

No, we are not.  Al in that lineup instead of Amir is superior.

Agreed. The problem isnt Al, it's that Amir and Al are a bad combo

Al and Amir are +7.7 per 100 possessions when on the court.  No player has a better net rating when paired with Horford.  There might be some noise in there, of course, but the data doesn't show that they are a bad combo.

What are the offensive and defensive ratings for that combo? They're good offensively, but I think that combo is a source of a lot of our defensive issues
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: max215 on March 06, 2017, 11:29:55 PM
Jaylen picks up 2 BS fouls, finally commits one real one, and is now stapled to the bench. Ughhh.
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: jambr380 on March 06, 2017, 11:29:58 PM
AB should never attempt alley-oop passes.

Maybe he just wants to make Brown look REALLY good!
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Post by: liam on March 06, 2017, 11:30:25 PM
AB should never attempt alley-oop passes.

AB passes like he needs glasses.
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Post by: jpotter33 on March 06, 2017, 11:30:49 PM
Good take by Rozier. I still wonder why he never dunks, though. He's more than capable of it.
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Post by: BitterJim on March 06, 2017, 11:31:47 PM
Kelly cleaning up on the offensive glass
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Post by: liam on March 06, 2017, 11:32:02 PM
Good take by Rozier. I still wonder why he never dunks, though. He's more than capable of it.

Rozier having a good stretch...
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Post by: mr. dee on March 06, 2017, 11:32:19 PM
There you go Rozier
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Post by: Vox_Populi on March 06, 2017, 11:32:25 PM
Kelly cleaning up on the offensive glass
I love it
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Post by: liam on March 06, 2017, 11:32:52 PM
Kelly cleaning up on the offensive glass
I love it

4 Offensive rebounds already!
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Post by: Denis998 on March 06, 2017, 11:33:19 PM
If you call Rozier a shooting guard hes actually quite decent. A PG? not so much
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: mr. dee on March 06, 2017, 11:33:27 PM
I guess the good Olynyk decided to show up.
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: jambr380 on March 06, 2017, 11:33:43 PM
Good take by Rozier. I still wonder why he never dunks, though. He's more than capable of it.

The announcers said, 'Rozier with the hard attack,' and I thought they said 'heart-attack'. It seems he makes every shot more complicated than it needs to be.

Now, he may actually figure out these difficult shots, which will make him a very good scorer, but he does still miss too many lay-ups. Glad to see him knock down the 3, though!
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: liam on March 06, 2017, 11:33:54 PM
This is a good game so far I hope I can stay up 'till the end!
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: jpotter33 on March 06, 2017, 11:34:55 PM
Question - are we a better defensive team without Horford?  There was an article I read today that was positing this.

I mean, having a 2/3/4/5 of AB, Jaylen, Jae, and Amir might make a bit more sense defensively than having Al at the 4. Sure, we're small and that hurts, but it's not like Al's presence would've helped that much on the boards anyways.

No, we are not.  Al in that lineup instead of Amir is superior.

Agreed. The problem isnt Al, it's that Amir and Al are a bad combo

Al and Amir are +7.7 per 100 possessions when on the court.  No player has a better net rating when paired with Horford.  There might be some noise in there, of course, but the data doesn't show that they are a bad combo.

What are the offensive and defensive ratings for that combo? They're good offensively, but I think that combo is a source of a lot of our defensive issues

I think it's matchup specific, too. Like against Love and Cleveland, that's a bad matchup, as we saw in the only matchup they've both been available where Love torched Al.

Both of the Morris twins have had bouts of success against Horford's perimeter D, too, along with Marvin Williams in Charlotte. Essentially, Al struggles with the stretch 4's that are quicker and can stretch beyond the three point line.
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Post by: Bucketgetter on March 06, 2017, 11:35:23 PM
This is a good game so far I hope I can stay up 'till the end!
As long as we keep winning, I don't sleep!
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Post by: liam on March 06, 2017, 11:35:33 PM
Good take by Rozier. I still wonder why he never dunks, though. He's more than capable of it.

The announcers said, 'Rozier with the hard attack,' and I thought they said 'heart-attack'. It seems he makes every shot more complicated than it needs to be.

Now, he may actually figure out these difficult shots, which will make him a very good scorer, but he does still miss too many lay-ups. Glad to see him knock down the 3, though!

That's a good nick name for Rozier - The Heart Attack! He gives me one every game!
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: GratefulCs on March 06, 2017, 11:35:48 PM
these jerseys suck

i wanna puke everytime i see them
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Post by: BitterJim on March 06, 2017, 11:36:37 PM
If you call Rozier a shooting guard hes actually quite decent. A PG? not so much

I look at him as a Landry Barbosa type player
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: GratefulCs on March 06, 2017, 11:36:50 PM
Good take by Rozier. I still wonder why he never dunks, though. He's more than capable of it.

The announcers said, 'Rozier with the hard attack,' and I thought they said 'heart-attack'. It seems he makes every shot more complicated than it needs to be.

Now, he may actually figure out these difficult shots, which will make him a very good scorer, but he does still miss too many lay-ups. Glad to see him knock down the 3, though!

That's a good nick name for Rozier - The Heart Attack! He gives me one every game!
scary terry
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Post by: BitterJim on March 06, 2017, 11:37:17 PM
these jerseys suck

i wanna puke everytime i see them

I don't mind them

I really hate the grey sleeved jerseys
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: SHAQATTACK on March 06, 2017, 11:37:17 PM
I guess the good Olynyk decided to show up.

What's he look like?
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: saltlover on March 06, 2017, 11:37:26 PM
Question - are we a better defensive team without Horford?  There was an article I read today that was positing this.

I mean, having a 2/3/4/5 of AB, Jaylen, Jae, and Amir might make a bit more sense defensively than having Al at the 4. Sure, we're small and that hurts, but it's not like Al's presence would've helped that much on the boards anyways.

No, we are not.  Al in that lineup instead of Amir is superior.

Agreed. The problem isnt Al, it's that Amir and Al are a bad combo

Al and Amir are +7.7 per 100 possessions when on the court.  No player has a better net rating when paired with Horford.  There might be some noise in there, of course, but the data doesn't show that they are a bad combo.

What are the offensive and defensive ratings for that combo? They're good offensively, but I think that combo is a source of a lot of our defensive issues

NBA.com actually has it as a +8.0 net rating -- 112.5 to 104.5.  Not a stellar defensive rating, but it's not especially poor either.  Not good at defensive rebounding tho.
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: liam on March 06, 2017, 11:37:45 PM
If you call Rozier a shooting guard hes actually quite decent. A PG? not so much

I look at him as a Landry Barbosa type player

Barbosa smoother and more fundamentally sound.
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Post by: Clench123 on March 06, 2017, 11:38:07 PM
IT smh
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Post by: liam on March 06, 2017, 11:38:18 PM
I guess the good Olynyk decided to show up.

What's he look like?

Getting a lot of boards tonight.
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: BitterJim on March 06, 2017, 11:39:04 PM
I guess the good Olynyk decided to show up.

What's he look like?

He's got Hulk Hogan's hair on his head and Donald Trump's hair on his chin
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: saltlover on March 06, 2017, 11:39:08 PM
Question - are we a better defensive team without Horford?  There was an article I read today that was positing this.

I mean, having a 2/3/4/5 of AB, Jaylen, Jae, and Amir might make a bit more sense defensively than having Al at the 4. Sure, we're small and that hurts, but it's not like Al's presence would've helped that much on the boards anyways.

No, we are not.  Al in that lineup instead of Amir is superior.

Agreed. The problem isnt Al, it's that Amir and Al are a bad combo

Al and Amir are +7.7 per 100 possessions when on the court.  No player has a better net rating when paired with Horford.  There might be some noise in there, of course, but the data doesn't show that they are a bad combo.

What are the offensive and defensive ratings for that combo? They're good offensively, but I think that combo is a source of a lot of our defensive issues

I think it's matchup specific, too. Like against Love and Cleveland, that's a bad matchup, as we saw in the only matchup they've both been available where Love torched Al.

Both of the Morris twins have had bouts of success against Horford's perimeter D, too, along with Marvin Williams in Charlotte. Essentially, Al struggles with the stretch 4's that are quicker and can stretch beyond the three point line.

Al leads all NBA centers in 3-point shots defended.
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Post by: jpotter33 on March 06, 2017, 11:39:16 PM
I love Smart in the post.
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: liam on March 06, 2017, 11:39:56 PM
I guess the good Olynyk decided to show up.

What's he look like?

He's got Hulk Hogan's hair on his head and Donald Trump's hair on his chin

Ouch!
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Post by: BitterJim on March 06, 2017, 11:40:26 PM
If you call Rozier a shooting guard hes actually quite decent. A PG? not so much

I look at him as a Landry Barbosa type player

Barbosa smoother and more fundamentally sound.

No doubt, but Terry I think will be a similar player. Not as good (and never gonna win a 6MOY award like Barbosa did), but I think he can have a similar role and impact
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: liam on March 06, 2017, 11:40:35 PM
I love Smart in the post.

He makes the easy pass for the good play.
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: Chief on March 06, 2017, 11:41:09 PM
I guess the good Olynyk decided to show up.

What's he look like?

(http://wikipicky.com/uploads/sportcelebrity/Sue%20Bird.jpg)
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: liam on March 06, 2017, 11:41:10 PM
If you call Rozier a shooting guard hes actually quite decent. A PG? not so much

I look at him as a Landry Barbosa type player

Barbosa smoother and more fundamentally sound.

No doubt, but Terry I think will be a similar player. Not as good (and never gonna win a 6MOY award like Barbosa did), but I think he can have a similar role and impact

Maybe so. That would be awesome for us.
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Post by: rondohondo on March 06, 2017, 11:41:57 PM
Marcus is turning into a beast when he posts up
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Post by: mr. dee on March 06, 2017, 11:42:01 PM
Smart abusing Paul in the post
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Post by: liam on March 06, 2017, 11:42:18 PM
Smart looks like a 10 year pro out there.
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: jpotter33 on March 06, 2017, 11:42:25 PM
Question - are we a better defensive team without Horford?  There was an article I read today that was positing this.

I mean, having a 2/3/4/5 of AB, Jaylen, Jae, and Amir might make a bit more sense defensively than having Al at the 4. Sure, we're small and that hurts, but it's not like Al's presence would've helped that much on the boards anyways.

No, we are not.  Al in that lineup instead of Amir is superior.

Agreed. The problem isnt Al, it's that Amir and Al are a bad combo

Al and Amir are +7.7 per 100 possessions when on the court.  No player has a better net rating when paired with Horford.  There might be some noise in there, of course, but the data doesn't show that they are a bad combo.

What are the offensive and defensive ratings for that combo? They're good offensively, but I think that combo is a source of a lot of our defensive issues

I think it's matchup specific, too. Like against Love and Cleveland, that's a bad matchup, as we saw in the only matchup they've both been available where Love torched Al.

Both of the Morris twins have had bouts of success against Horford's perimeter D, too, along with Marvin Williams in Charlotte. Essentially, Al struggles with the stretch 4's that are quicker and can stretch beyond the three point line.

Al leads all NBA centers in 3-point shots defended.

Does that account for both makes and misses, or does "defended" mean missed threes?

EDIT: And calling Al a "center" is a bit of a misnomer, too, because he plays a lot of his minutes as the PF next to Amir.
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Post by: SHAQATTACK on March 06, 2017, 11:43:48 PM
I love Smart in the post.

I love Smart in a post , with a ghost, eating toast  ;D
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: Chief on March 06, 2017, 11:43:48 PM
Marcus is turning into a beast when he posts up

He and Jaylen should live there.
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: GratefulCs on March 06, 2017, 11:44:02 PM
these jerseys suck

i wanna puke everytime i see them

I don't mind them

I really hate the grey sleeved jerseys
the only alternate ones i like are the st. patricks day ones with gold

GOLD SHOULD BE THE ALTERNATE COLOR

it makes sense!  who's making these decisions? freaking marketing team. trying to make a buck

Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: SHAQATTACK on March 06, 2017, 11:45:22 PM
Marcus is turning into a beast when he posts up

He and Jaylen should live there.

With their son Kelly ... ;)
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: BitterJim on March 06, 2017, 11:46:00 PM
Question - are we a better defensive team without Horford?  There was an article I read today that was positing this.

I mean, having a 2/3/4/5 of AB, Jaylen, Jae, and Amir might make a bit more sense defensively than having Al at the 4. Sure, we're small and that hurts, but it's not like Al's presence would've helped that much on the boards anyways.

No, we are not.  Al in that lineup instead of Amir is superior.

Agreed. The problem isnt Al, it's that Amir and Al are a bad combo

Al and Amir are +7.7 per 100 possessions when on the court.  No player has a better net rating when paired with Horford.  There might be some noise in there, of course, but the data doesn't show that they are a bad combo.

What are the offensive and defensive ratings for that combo? They're good offensively, but I think that combo is a source of a lot of our defensive issues

NBA.com actually has it as a +8.0 net rating -- 112.5 to 104.5.  Not a stellar defensive rating, but it's not especially poor either.  Not good at defensive rebounding tho.

104.5 isn't too bad considering that the team's defensive rating is 105.7. A bit odd to see considering that that pairing doesn't pass the eye test for me (although it could have to do with that pairing often playing with other good defenders)
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: liam on March 06, 2017, 11:46:22 PM
Marcus is turning into a beast when he posts up

He and Jaylen should live there.

With their son Kelly ... ;)

Kelly with 7 boards already tonight!
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Post by: Chief on March 06, 2017, 11:46:53 PM
I love when Marcus battles the bigs in the defensive post too.
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: liam on March 06, 2017, 11:47:10 PM
Zeller coming in!
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: BitterJim on March 06, 2017, 11:47:15 PM
If you call Rozier a shooting guard hes actually quite decent. A PG? not so much

I look at him as a Landry Barbosa type player

Barbosa smoother and more fundamentally sound.

No doubt, but Terry I think will be a similar player. Not as good (and never gonna win a 6MOY award like Barbosa did), but I think he can have a similar role and impact

Maybe so. That would be awesome for us.

It'll be awesome for the next team that gives him a chance. He'll never turn into that player here
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: SHAQATTACK on March 06, 2017, 11:47:53 PM
Marcus is turning into a beast when he posts up

He and Jaylen should live there.

With their son Kelly ... ;)

Kelly with 7 boards already tonight!

STUD
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Post by: liam on March 06, 2017, 11:48:10 PM
Worst lob pass ever!
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: SHAQATTACK on March 06, 2017, 11:48:36 PM
I love when Marcus battles the bigs in the defensive post too.


Old old school ....Dennis Johnson
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Post by: mr. dee on March 06, 2017, 11:49:01 PM
LOL, Crowder
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Post by: jpotter33 on March 06, 2017, 11:49:13 PM
Smart!!
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Post by: RockinRyA on March 06, 2017, 11:49:37 PM
lol Zeller is not an alley-oop guy. *Kendrick Perkins is not an alley-oop guy*
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: BitterJim on March 06, 2017, 11:49:43 PM
Smart!!

Should have burned more time, though
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: max215 on March 06, 2017, 11:50:02 PM
Zeller sucks.
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: Chief on March 06, 2017, 11:50:06 PM
Another Tyler Zeller defensive special.
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: Vox_Populi on March 06, 2017, 11:50:10 PM
Zeller still sucks
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: SHAQATTACK on March 06, 2017, 11:50:36 PM
Doc ......coaching his tail off tonight
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: Denis998 on March 06, 2017, 11:50:43 PM
Trashcan at it again!
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: liam on March 06, 2017, 11:50:57 PM
Not a good ending for the quarter.
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: Vox_Populi on March 06, 2017, 11:51:02 PM
I love Smart though. Every game he competes.
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: SHAQATTACK on March 06, 2017, 11:51:22 PM
Zeller still sucks


He is worth a used ham sandwich
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: manl_lui on March 06, 2017, 11:51:31 PM
is it just me or is IT kind of reckless and more wild since the all star break
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: csfansince60s on March 06, 2017, 11:51:32 PM
Zeller still sucks

Guy's ineptitude is disgusting.

Talk about someone hitting the lottery to be filler in a trade.
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: GratefulCs on March 06, 2017, 11:51:47 PM
watching smart develop this year has been an incredible experience

I LOVE SMAHT
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: BitterJim on March 06, 2017, 11:51:50 PM
Good first half for the most part, hopefully we keep it together in the 3rd quarter.
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: GratefulCs on March 06, 2017, 11:52:58 PM
is it just me or is IT kind of reckless and more wild since the all star break
his ego is like the housing bubble in 2008

 ;D
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: SHAQATTACK on March 06, 2017, 11:53:03 PM
is it just me or is IT kind of reckless and more wild since the all star break

Being a world wide stud and star may gene increased his skull size a bit
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: BitterJim on March 06, 2017, 11:54:11 PM
Zeller still sucks

Guys ineptitude is disgusting.

Talk about someone hitting the lottery to be filler in a trade.

Zeller got lucky and imma let you finish, but Keith Bogans had the greatest sudden winfall of all time (and didn't even sit on the bench to get it)
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: saltlover on March 06, 2017, 11:54:24 PM
Question - are we a better defensive team without Horford?  There was an article I read today that was positing this.

I mean, having a 2/3/4/5 of AB, Jaylen, Jae, and Amir might make a bit more sense defensively than having Al at the 4. Sure, we're small and that hurts, but it's not like Al's presence would've helped that much on the boards anyways.

No, we are not.  Al in that lineup instead of Amir is superior.

Agreed. The problem isnt Al, it's that Amir and Al are a bad combo

Al and Amir are +7.7 per 100 possessions when on the court.  No player has a better net rating when paired with Horford.  There might be some noise in there, of course, but the data doesn't show that they are a bad combo.

What are the offensive and defensive ratings for that combo? They're good offensively, but I think that combo is a source of a lot of our defensive issues

I think it's matchup specific, too. Like against Love and Cleveland, that's a bad matchup, as we saw in the only matchup they've both been available where Love torched Al.

Both of the Morris twins have had bouts of success against Horford's perimeter D, too, along with Marvin Williams in Charlotte. Essentially, Al struggles with the stretch 4's that are quicker and can stretch beyond the three point line.

Al leads all NBA centers in 3-point shots defended.

Does that account for both makes and misses, or does "defended" mean missed threes?

EDIT: And calling Al a "center" is a bit of a misnomer, too, because he plays a lot of his minutes as the PF next to Amir.

It accounts for makes and misses.  Players shoot 32.6% on 3s when defended by him, which is 17th of 69 centers who defend at least one three per game.

NBA.com calls him a center -- I just filtered by his position.  But he plays fewer than half his minutes with Amir on the court, so he's appropriately classified.
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: SHAQATTACK on March 06, 2017, 11:54:39 PM
Smart loves playing against the big name players .  Likes to pee on their corn flakes
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: Ogaju on March 06, 2017, 11:55:16 PM
Worst display of shooting I have possibly ever seen by the Celtics. How does it look on TV?
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: rocknrollforyoursoul on March 07, 2017, 12:02:22 AM
Worst display of shooting I have possibly ever seen by the Celtics. How does it look on TV?

I think they shot worse against Phoenix—barely over 30%, I think; tonight they're at 36%. But yeah, that's still pretty bad.

This has been a rough sports night for me. The Bruins had a chance to tie the Senators for sixth in the East but lost to the Senators 4-2; and the dang Grizzlies let the Nets win (Sean Kilpatrick got to the line 17 TIMES!). Come on, Cs!!!
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: manl_lui on March 07, 2017, 12:03:09 AM
is it just me or is IT kind of reckless and more wild since the all star break
his ego is like the housing bubble in 2008

 ;D

so you're saying we should short Thomas  ;)
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: hwangjini_1 on March 07, 2017, 12:03:10 AM
Half time and still ahead. I'll take that.

Smart's stat line looks real good.how is he looking?
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: saltlover on March 07, 2017, 12:06:56 AM
Half time and still ahead. I'll take that.

Smart's stat line looks real good.how is he looking?

Better than his box score line, like normal.   ;D
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: Ogaju on March 07, 2017, 12:07:01 AM
Celtic nation representing at Staples. So proud to be a Celtic fan.
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: chilidawg on March 07, 2017, 12:07:15 AM
is it just me or is IT kind of reckless and more wild since the all star break
his ego is like the housing bubble in 2008

 ;D

so you're saying we should short Thomas  ;)

A little late for that, wouldn't you say.
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: hwangjini_1 on March 07, 2017, 12:09:34 AM
Half time and still ahead. I'll take that.

Smart's stat line looks real good.how is he looking?

Better than his box score line, like normal.   ;D
Ha, ha.  Good one. Tp for the wit.
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: chilidawg on March 07, 2017, 12:09:54 AM
Worst display of shooting I have possibly ever seen by the Celtics. How does it look on TV?

Lots of good ball movement, getting good shots, just can't make em.  A couple of the worst alley oops ever though.
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: jpotter33 on March 07, 2017, 12:11:53 AM
Question - are we a better defensive team without Horford?  There was an article I read today that was positing this.

I mean, having a 2/3/4/5 of AB, Jaylen, Jae, and Amir might make a bit more sense defensively than having Al at the 4. Sure, we're small and that hurts, but it's not like Al's presence would've helped that much on the boards anyways.

No, we are not.  Al in that lineup instead of Amir is superior.

Agreed. The problem isnt Al, it's that Amir and Al are a bad combo

Al and Amir are +7.7 per 100 possessions when on the court.  No player has a better net rating when paired with Horford.  There might be some noise in there, of course, but the data doesn't show that they are a bad combo.

What are the offensive and defensive ratings for that combo? They're good offensively, but I think that combo is a source of a lot of our defensive issues

I think it's matchup specific, too. Like against Love and Cleveland, that's a bad matchup, as we saw in the only matchup they've both been available where Love torched Al.

Both of the Morris twins have had bouts of success against Horford's perimeter D, too, along with Marvin Williams in Charlotte. Essentially, Al struggles with the stretch 4's that are quicker and can stretch beyond the three point line.

Al leads all NBA centers in 3-point shots defended.

Does that account for both makes and misses, or does "defended" mean missed threes?

EDIT: And calling Al a "center" is a bit of a misnomer, too, because he plays a lot of his minutes as the PF next to Amir.

It accounts for makes and misses.  Players shoot 32.6% on 3s when defended by him, which is 17th of 69 centers who defend at least one three per game.

NBA.com calls him a center -- I just filtered by his position.  But he plays fewer than half his minutes with Amir on the court, so he's appropriately classified.

Do they have particular matchup statistics? I'd be interested to see which teams' players he defends better and worse.
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: jpotter33 on March 07, 2017, 12:13:00 AM
Bae and Amir!!
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: liam on March 07, 2017, 12:14:05 AM
Bae and Amir!!

That was something!
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: footey on March 07, 2017, 12:14:07 AM
Brown an underrated passer
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: jpotter33 on March 07, 2017, 12:14:35 AM
OMG AB! Two Sportcenter highlight reels tonight on Paul!!
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: liam on March 07, 2017, 12:14:37 AM
Brown an underrated passer

Yeah, he sees the floor well.
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: Clench123 on March 07, 2017, 12:15:10 AM
Avery!
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: max215 on March 07, 2017, 12:16:40 AM
Jaylen has been really impressive as a passer today.
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: saltlover on March 07, 2017, 12:16:50 AM
Question - are we a better defensive team without Horford?  There was an article I read today that was positing this.

I mean, having a 2/3/4/5 of AB, Jaylen, Jae, and Amir might make a bit more sense defensively than having Al at the 4. Sure, we're small and that hurts, but it's not like Al's presence would've helped that much on the boards anyways.

No, we are not.  Al in that lineup instead of Amir is superior.

Agreed. The problem isnt Al, it's that Amir and Al are a bad combo

Al and Amir are +7.7 per 100 possessions when on the court.  No player has a better net rating when paired with Horford.  There might be some noise in there, of course, but the data doesn't show that they are a bad combo.

What are the offensive and defensive ratings for that combo? They're good offensively, but I think that combo is a source of a lot of our defensive issues

I think it's matchup specific, too. Like against Love and Cleveland, that's a bad matchup, as we saw in the only matchup they've both been available where Love torched Al.

Both of the Morris twins have had bouts of success against Horford's perimeter D, too, along with Marvin Williams in Charlotte. Essentially, Al struggles with the stretch 4's that are quicker and can stretch beyond the three point line.

Al leads all NBA centers in 3-point shots defended.

Does that account for both makes and misses, or does "defended" mean missed threes?

EDIT: And calling Al a "center" is a bit of a misnomer, too, because he plays a lot of his minutes as the PF next to Amir.

It accounts for makes and misses.  Players shoot 32.6% on 3s when defended by him, which is 17th of 69 centers who defend at least one three per game.

NBA.com calls him a center -- I just filtered by his position.  But he plays fewer than half his minutes with Amir on the court, so he's appropriately classified.

Do they have particular matchup statistics? I'd be interested to see which teams' players he defends better and worse.

You can filter by team if you're the type of person who likes to draw conclusions from small sample sizes.
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: Clench123 on March 07, 2017, 12:17:17 AM
I love sticking it to Doc Rivers.  Pls win this game.
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: jpotter33 on March 07, 2017, 12:18:06 AM
This Celtics team is so perplexing.

Does the defensive intensity/efficiency really all boil down to effort? How do we go from last night's terrible overall game, including D, to tonight's elite-level D?

On paper, this is a team that should destroy our defense.
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: liam on March 07, 2017, 12:18:13 AM
Jaylen has been really impressive as a passer today.

He should have at least 7 assist tonight but for fouls and fumbles...
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: jpotter33 on March 07, 2017, 12:19:00 AM
IT getting MVP chants in LA. Wow. lol
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: saltlover on March 07, 2017, 12:20:47 AM
This Celtics team is so perplexing.

Does the defensive intensity/efficiency really all boil down to effort? How do we go from last night's terrible overall game, including D, to tonight's elite-level D?

On paper, this is a team that should destroy our defense.

Avery Bradley is 1st-team All-Defense for a reason.  The Clippers rely a lot on Chris Paul creating looks for everyone.  That's not happening today.
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: manl_lui on March 07, 2017, 12:20:48 AM
Avery!

followed by another hamstring soreness the next day  ;D ;D ;D

ok now I feel bad saying it
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: Clench123 on March 07, 2017, 12:20:52 AM
This Celtics team is so perplexing.

Does the defensive intensity/efficiency really all boil down to effort? How do we go from last night's terrible overall game, including D, to tonight's elite-level D?

On paper, this is a team that should destroy our defense.

You knew the answer, man.  You answered it yourself.  EFFORT

We play down to our opponents and that, sometimes, bite us in the ass.
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: Denis998 on March 07, 2017, 12:21:35 AM
MVP chants in Staples Center...unreal
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: Emmette Bryant on March 07, 2017, 12:22:10 AM
Wow Lisa Leslie looks like a mama kangaroo and Marcus Smart looks like he belongs in her pouch.
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: Vox_Populi on March 07, 2017, 12:22:10 AM
Rebounding has been mostly very good.
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: Clench123 on March 07, 2017, 12:22:19 AM
Avery!

followed by another hamstring soreness the next day  ;D ;D ;D

ok now I feel bad saying it

Lol.  Only if dude can stay healthy smh
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: max215 on March 07, 2017, 12:22:27 AM
MVP chants in Staples Center...unreal

A tribute to PP at Staples feels even weirder.
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: jpotter33 on March 07, 2017, 12:25:28 AM
This Celtics team is so perplexing.

Does the defensive intensity/efficiency really all boil down to effort? How do we go from last night's terrible overall game, including D, to tonight's elite-level D?

On paper, this is a team that should destroy our defense.

Avery Bradley is 1st-team All-Defense for a reason.  The Clippers rely a lot on Chris Paul creating looks for everyone.  That's not happening today.

True, on the other hand, IT has guarded him for large sections of the game, too. I also think the Clips' offense has been a bit overrated this season, too, largely due to their quick start to the season.

But AB's presence back in the lineup has clearly made us a much better defensive team, even if earlier in the season he was putting his ball-hawking defense on the backburner to try and stay healthy (that's the prevailing opinion for his early season defensive woes anyways). Glad to see him back to his ball-hawking ways. We're a much better team with him like that.
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: liam on March 07, 2017, 12:27:44 AM
Ouch.
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: mr. dee on March 07, 2017, 12:28:03 AM
LOL, with the Kelly tango move
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: liam on March 07, 2017, 12:28:14 AM
Need to close out better than this.
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: Vox_Populi on March 07, 2017, 12:28:17 AM
Crowder can't miss those threes.
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: liam on March 07, 2017, 12:29:32 AM
Crowder can't miss those threes.

He's a way off tonight!
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: jpotter33 on March 07, 2017, 12:31:05 AM
Geeze, Kelly is about worthless anymore.
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: Clench123 on March 07, 2017, 12:31:11 AM
Crowder can't miss those threes.

He's a way off tonight!

I love Crowder, man.  Don't pick on my guy, he's been great for us this season.
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: liam on March 07, 2017, 12:31:28 AM
I have a hankern for some more Jaylen Brown!!
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: liam on March 07, 2017, 12:32:05 AM
Crowder can't miss those threes.

He's a way off tonight!

I love Crowder, man.  Don't pick on my guy, he's been great for us this season.

I love him too but he's off tonight.
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: tarheelsxxiii on March 07, 2017, 12:32:36 AM
Isaiah is so nasty.
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: Kuberski33 on March 07, 2017, 12:33:08 AM
Poor Olynyk getting zero respect from the refs tonight.
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: liam on March 07, 2017, 12:33:25 AM
Poor Olynyk getting zero respect from the refs tonight.

Yeah, BS call...
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: jpotter33 on March 07, 2017, 12:33:38 AM
Crowder can't miss those threes.

He's a way off tonight!

I love Crowder, man.  Don't pick on my guy, he's been great for us this season.

I love him too but he's off tonight.

He's got 8 rebounds, so that makes up for it.
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: liam on March 07, 2017, 12:34:24 AM
Crowder can't miss those threes.

He's a way off tonight!

I love Crowder, man.  Don't pick on my guy, he's been great for us this season.

I love him too but he's off tonight.

He's got 8 rebounds, so that makes up for it.

Yeah, he's still playing hard.
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: Vox_Populi on March 07, 2017, 12:34:37 AM
Mickey! Mickey!
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: Clench123 on March 07, 2017, 12:35:26 AM
Crawford is awake.  Not good.
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: manl_lui on March 07, 2017, 12:35:33 AM
Brown back in with a minute'ish left to go in the 3rd? risky move?
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: Kuberski33 on March 07, 2017, 12:36:48 AM
Brad getting zero out of the end of the bench over past 2 minutes.
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: liam on March 07, 2017, 12:37:09 AM
How does Rozier get 6 shots?
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: RockinRyA on March 07, 2017, 12:37:14 AM
Rozier -8 Young -7 Zeller -3 Mickey -6

Yup.
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: max215 on March 07, 2017, 12:37:30 AM
We're so done.
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: jpotter33 on March 07, 2017, 12:37:49 AM
Griffin better get T'ed up for that little outburst at the end.
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: Kuberski33 on March 07, 2017, 12:37:53 AM
T up Griffin.  He fouled Young on that rebound and he's whining.
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: hwangjini_1 on March 07, 2017, 12:38:01 AM
Crawford is unconscious shooting right now. Dang
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: mr. dee on March 07, 2017, 12:38:10 AM
Are you kidding me?!
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: chilidawg on March 07, 2017, 12:38:21 AM
Summer league lineup getting smoked.
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: hwangjini_1 on March 07, 2017, 12:38:33 AM
We're so done.
Lot of game left. Celtics can win this.
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: Vox_Populi on March 07, 2017, 12:38:47 AM
Ah, well.
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: Clench123 on March 07, 2017, 12:38:58 AM
KG couldn't even say Ray Allen's name lol
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: Kuberski33 on March 07, 2017, 12:39:01 AM
Rozier -8 Young -7 Zeller -3 Mickey -6

Yup.
These guys need to do better than that.  Awful.
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: liam on March 07, 2017, 12:39:22 AM
KG couldn't even say Ray Allen's name lol

Me either...
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: liam on March 07, 2017, 12:40:37 AM
Rozier -8 Young -7 Zeller -3 Mickey -6

Yup.
These guys need to do better than that.  Awful.

Need to run the offense out of the post with that unit through either Smart or Jaylan, they both can pass...
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: rocknrollforyoursoul on March 07, 2017, 12:40:51 AM
Slippin' away?
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: mr. dee on March 07, 2017, 12:41:21 AM
Rozier -8 Young -7 Zeller -3 Mickey -6

Yup.
These guys need to do better than that.  Awful.

Need to run the offense out of the post with that unit through either Smart or Jaylan, they both can pass...

Aside from Smart and Brown, that unit have low BBIQ.
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: jpotter33 on March 07, 2017, 12:41:33 AM
Some pitbull defense by Smart right there!
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: jpotter33 on March 07, 2017, 12:41:48 AM
Big Jimmy Young!!
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: jpotter33 on March 07, 2017, 12:43:07 AM
Please, please, please - can we just sit KO? Go freaking small the rest of the game for all I care. I can't watch this guy give up any more points for us tonight.
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: KG Living Legend on March 07, 2017, 12:43:22 AM
IT getting MVP chants in LA. Wow. lol




 L.A. the strangest place on Earth. Home to Hollywierd and The Clippers.
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: Clench123 on March 07, 2017, 12:44:00 AM
Rozier sucks!
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: liam on March 07, 2017, 12:44:10 AM
Please, please, please - can we just sit KO? Go freaking small the rest of the game for all I care. I can't watch this guy give up any more points for us tonight.

I hate that call on Kelly it's a no call.
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: Kuberski33 on March 07, 2017, 12:44:22 AM
Danny this is why you needed to get some bench help at the deadline...
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: liam on March 07, 2017, 12:45:27 AM
I took something to help me sleep so this is gooding the very exciting to keep me awake!
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: Clench123 on March 07, 2017, 12:47:16 AM
This is going to be a tough game to win...
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: tarheelsxxiii on March 07, 2017, 12:47:28 AM
Why is James Young playing basketball?
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: Vox_Populi on March 07, 2017, 12:47:35 AM
Just not enough talent tonight unfortunately.
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: Clench123 on March 07, 2017, 12:48:05 AM
Rozier sucks!

I'm never comfortable with Rozier in the game
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: jpotter33 on March 07, 2017, 12:48:07 AM
Why is James Young playing basketball?

I'm kind of wondering why both him and Rozier were guarding Crawford the last two consecutive possessions.
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: mr. dee on March 07, 2017, 12:48:31 AM
Smart is the only one holding this unit.
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: hwangjini_1 on March 07, 2017, 12:48:57 AM
Geez, getting killed by the corpse of Jamal Crawford.  :P
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: lrybrd on March 07, 2017, 12:49:24 AM
KO is awful!!! His minutes need to be cut.  He is an absolute liability. 
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: Clench123 on March 07, 2017, 12:50:22 AM
Last night, if we had won, could've made up for tonight's loss, smh  argghhhh...
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: lrybrd on March 07, 2017, 12:51:29 AM
The officiating in ti]his league is awful!!! Wait to see if the ball goes in and, if not, blood the whistle!  Ridiculous!!!
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: droopdog7 on March 07, 2017, 12:51:41 AM
KO is awful!!! His minutes need to be cut.  He is an absolute liability.
And who would you play in his place?
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: manl_lui on March 07, 2017, 12:52:07 AM
I like Rozier, he's a good player, but I just don't think he fits our system
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: rocknrollforyoursoul on March 07, 2017, 12:53:18 AM
Geez, getting killed by the corpse of Jamal Crawford.  :P

Don't forget the corpse of Raymond Felton.
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: Kuberski33 on March 07, 2017, 12:53:18 AM
KO is awful!!! His minutes need to be cut.  He is an absolute liability.
He continues to be really bad on his off nights.  And this is one of those nights.
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: Clench123 on March 07, 2017, 12:54:22 AM
To be honest, I'm glad for this loss.
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: jpotter33 on March 07, 2017, 12:55:20 AM
Yeah, this is all guard/small forward lineup isn't going to work working, Brad...
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: lrybrd on March 07, 2017, 12:55:20 AM
We're in the bonus the rest of the quarter.  Time to start jacking 3s!!! smh
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: Kuberski33 on March 07, 2017, 12:55:20 AM
Geez, getting killed by the corpse of Jamal Crawford.  :P

Don't forget the corpse of Raymond Felton.
Felton looks like he belongs in an Over-40 league
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: droopdog7 on March 07, 2017, 12:55:22 AM
The officiating in ti]his league is awful!!! Wait to see if the ball goes in and, if not, blood the whistle!  Ridiculous!!!
Its not ridiculous.  I love that they do that.  No need to pile unnecessary fouls on guys.  I wish college refs did the same thing.
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: mr. dee on March 07, 2017, 12:55:36 AM
Here comes hero-ball IT ::)
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: Vox_Populi on March 07, 2017, 12:55:56 AM
First half was enjoyable at least. Can't be too unhappy all things considered. Clippers are better, Celtics were tired and hurt. Night fellas.
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: Walter Moss on March 07, 2017, 12:56:16 AM
good bye 2nd place
good bye
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: Ilikesports17 on March 07, 2017, 12:56:18 AM
To be honest, I'm glad for this loss.
::)
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: hwangjini_1 on March 07, 2017, 12:56:29 AM
Well, it was fun while it lasted.

Clips just not missing anything and Celtics not shooting well from outside. Bad combo.
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: jpotter33 on March 07, 2017, 12:56:49 AM
KO is awful!!! His minutes need to be cut.  He is an absolute liability.
And who would you play in his place?

This towel boy...


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Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: Ilikesports17 on March 07, 2017, 12:56:59 AM
First half was enjoyable at least. Can't be too unhappy all things considered. Clippers are better, Celtics were tired and hurt. Night fellas.
Im not sure the Clippers are better.
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: droopdog7 on March 07, 2017, 12:57:27 AM
Here comes hero-ball IT ::)
I mean, does it matter?  We're getting our ass handed to us.
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: mr. dee on March 07, 2017, 12:57:38 AM
Well, it was fun while it lasted.

Clips just not missing anything and Celtics not shooting well from outside. Bad combo.

Brad was kinda stupid not putting Smart on Crawford. He let Rozier and Young get torched by an old chucker.
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: mr. dee on March 07, 2017, 12:58:47 AM
Here comes hero-ball IT ::)
I mean, does it matter?  We're getting our ass handed to us.

It matters because there are still lots of minutes to play and get their act together.
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: Kuberski33 on March 07, 2017, 12:59:00 AM
Sucks that they tossed away the Phoenix game because they're now staring at 3 L's in a row with GS next.
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: jpotter33 on March 07, 2017, 12:59:05 AM
Well, this is why you win the games you are supposed to win, like, you know, against the third worst team in the league last night. Can't count on a win on the second night of a back to back, in an away game, without two of your top eight rotation players, including your second best player.

At this pace we'll be lucky to be in second place by the time we make it back home.
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: MBunge on March 07, 2017, 12:59:23 AM
Somebody has to ask Stevens about that line up after the game, right? 

Mike
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: droopdog7 on March 07, 2017, 12:59:53 AM
Here comes hero-ball IT ::)
I mean, does it matter?  We're getting our ass handed to us.

It matters because there are still lots of minutes to play and get their act together.
Not anymore.  Down 17 with five to go.
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: Kuberski33 on March 07, 2017, 01:00:25 AM
Olynyk really sucked tonight.
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: Clench123 on March 07, 2017, 01:00:51 AM
To be honest, I'm glad for this loss.
::)

Yes.  It teaches us that EVERY advantage in this league is valuable.  EVERY ****ing advantage. 

When you buy into your own hype so much (it's not only limited to players), you come up  short.

These guys needed to be brought down back to earth.  We haven't, except maybe one or two games, played basketball with gusto this season.

This is Clippers' game to lose but if we had won games we supposed to have won, we wouldn't be this apprehensive.
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: rocknrollforyoursoul on March 07, 2017, 01:01:13 AM
Aye carumba. This is getting out of hand quickly.

They'll probably get slaughtered by the Warriors on national TV Wednesday, and probably get owned again by Denver's bigs on Friday.

Not to mention that the Nets won tonight, and Boston's blowing a chance to gain ground on Cleveland.

This is shaping up to be a great week.
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: MVPPierceNoJoke on March 07, 2017, 01:01:56 AM
I feel like they gave both of these two games away. Horford does not do much while he is out there, but he eats a lot of minutes up. If Kelly plays this much in the playoffs, the Celtics get bounced in the first round.
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: trickybilly on March 07, 2017, 01:01:59 AM
Most concerning aspect of this game is not that we are shooting badly, but are getting few good looks...
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: droopdog7 on March 07, 2017, 01:02:00 AM
Somebody has to ask Stevens about that line up after the game, right? 

Mike
This ain't game seven.  Sometimes you put guys out there and hope they don't implode.  Let them learn through the fire. 
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: jpotter33 on March 07, 2017, 01:03:01 AM
Olynyk has really sucked tonight for awhile.

FTFY.
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: blink on March 07, 2017, 01:03:39 AM
what the heck happened, i stopped watching at 1/2 time for a while to work on my taxes and then come back to see we are down 17...wth?
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: YoungOne87 on March 07, 2017, 01:03:41 AM
Management doesnt care about this season, so why dont we at least develope our young players more?
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: Denis998 on March 07, 2017, 01:04:03 AM
crawford just torched us
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: Ilikesports17 on March 07, 2017, 01:04:04 AM
not over quite yet.

basically over, but not yet.
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: droopdog7 on March 07, 2017, 01:04:39 AM
I feel like they gave both of these two games away. Horford does not do much while he is out there, but he eats a lot of minutes up. If Kelly plays this much in the playoffs, the Celtics get bounced in the first round.
Were losing by double digits, we're not giving this one away.  We're getting taken the cleaners.
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: MBunge on March 07, 2017, 01:04:42 AM
Somebody has to ask Stevens about that line up after the game, right? 

Mike
This ain't game seven.  Sometimes you put guys out there and hope they don't implode.  Let them learn through the fire.

There is NEVER going to a situation where THAT line up is going to work.

Mike
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: mr. dee on March 07, 2017, 01:04:55 AM
what the heck happened, i stopped watching at 1/2 time for a while to work on my taxes and then come back to see we are down 17...wth?

Rozier-Olynyk-Young happened
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: tankcity! on March 07, 2017, 01:05:51 AM
We're not winning a championship this year. Love the progress of Smart and Brown so far. Been joyful to watch. Games like this make it clear that KO shouldn't be here long term. Looks like we're figuring out our future rotation for the coming years. Jerebko shouldn't be resigned either
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: knuckleballer on March 07, 2017, 01:06:21 AM
Olynyk really sucked tonight.

He sure has.  He seems to be regressing on both sides of the ball.
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: droopdog7 on March 07, 2017, 01:06:32 AM
Somebody has to ask Stevens about that line up after the game, right? 

Mike
This ain't game seven.  Sometimes you put guys out there and hope they don't implode.  Let them learn through the fire.

There is NEVER going to a situation where THAT line up is going to work.

Mike
So let's burn up the starters on a back to back.  There's a bigger picture here.
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: jpotter33 on March 07, 2017, 01:07:00 AM
Well, per usual, our three guard rotation of IT, AB, and Smart are the only ones to really do anything out there and be effective tonight. Most nights you can throw Crowder in that hat, too, and Brown will eventually get there, too.

But that's the problem - our bigs just aren't consistent enough and don't always give us what we need to win.
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: SparzWizard on March 07, 2017, 01:07:12 AM
Aye carumba. This is getting out of hand quickly.

They'll probably get slaughtered by the Warriors on national TV Wednesday, and probably get owned again by Denver's bigs on Friday.

Not to mention that the Nets won tonight, and Boston's blowing a chance to gain ground on Cleveland.

This is shaping up to be a great week.

A Brooklyn win and a Celtics loss is a bad day. Now Lakers are slowly closing in. The Celtics will get creamed at Oracle before losing in the Altitude. 1-4 road trip? The silver lining to all this is that the Celtics swept the Lakers though lol.
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: knuckleballer on March 07, 2017, 01:07:13 AM
We really missed Horford tonight.
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: MVPPierceNoJoke on March 07, 2017, 01:07:17 AM
Were losing by double digits, we're not giving this one away.  We're getting taken the cleaners.
[/quote]

Good teams are suppose to not blow double digit leads. I know it is a back to back,  but after losing the way they did yesterday you would think they would have played more inspiring.
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: CelticSooner on March 07, 2017, 01:08:00 AM
This team is annoying to watch. I don't feel like they have maximized the talent this year.
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: liam on March 07, 2017, 01:08:33 AM
This team is annoying to watch. I don't feel like they have maximized the talent this year.

Which team?
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: droopdog7 on March 07, 2017, 01:08:36 AM
We really missed Horford tonight.
Wha t the heck happened to hordord anyway?
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: jpotter33 on March 07, 2017, 01:09:09 AM
Lol Zeller is absolute garbage, right along with KO.

But it's so ridiculous that Crawford "falls down" from contact up top on the hands. lol Flopper.
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: knuckleballer on March 07, 2017, 01:09:19 AM
We really missed Horford tonight.
Wha t the heck happened to hordord anyway?

Elbow.  I think day to day.
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: YoungOne87 on March 07, 2017, 01:09:53 AM
Knowing that olynyk is this terrible in a contract year is very alarming, he didnt develope much in his 4 years.
Hopefully we dont re sign him.
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: SparzWizard on March 07, 2017, 01:09:56 AM
Jamal Crawford, the best 4-point play player in the NBA.
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: mr. dee on March 07, 2017, 01:10:25 AM
I'm done watching. I know this isn't our season but its frustrating to see this team roll over and give away home court advantage like last year.
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: knuckleballer on March 07, 2017, 01:10:31 AM
Dare I say it.  Bring back Sully.  We could use him and he knows the system.  Cut Mickey or Jackson.
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: liam on March 07, 2017, 01:10:56 AM
Punching in a wet bag tonight....
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: jpotter33 on March 07, 2017, 01:11:10 AM
We're not winning a championship this year. Love the progress of Smart and Brown so far. Been joyful to watch. Games like this make it clear that KO shouldn't be here long term. Looks like we're figuring out our future rotation for the coming years. Jerebko shouldn't be resigned either

We actually agree on something!

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Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: rocknrollforyoursoul on March 07, 2017, 01:11:23 AM
what the heck happened, i stopped watching at 1/2 time for a while to work on my taxes and then come back to see we are down 17...wth?

I think it's fair to say you blinked, and you missed a bunch? ;D

This is shaping up to be a big L, and perhaps the saddest aspect of it is that 99% of the reasoning for it (from fans, at least) will be "Horford was out," "Jaylen was out," and "second half of a back-to-back," and almost no accountability regarding the players who were there. The Clippers have had some struggles this year, DJ's bricking FTs left and right, and Crawford's like 100 years old, and still Boston can't hang with them.
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: droopdog7 on March 07, 2017, 01:12:12 AM
Were losing by double digits, we're not giving this one away.  We're getting taken the cleaners.

Good teams are suppose to not blow double digit leads. I know it is a back to back,  but after losing the way they did yesterday you would think they would have played more inspiring.
[/quote]You can't be serious.  A double digit lead in the NBA is meaningless until you get to the fourth quarter.  Before that everything is just postering.  Or did you just start watching the NBA?
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: CelticSooner on March 07, 2017, 01:12:42 AM
Would anybody be surprised to see them beat GS and get stomped by Denver? Just so inconsistent.
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: Kuberski33 on March 07, 2017, 01:12:43 AM
Too many games like this one is why Olynyk won't be back next year.
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: Clench123 on March 07, 2017, 01:12:55 AM
We're not winning a championship this year.

We could've won one.  I said that with no shred of doubt.  With all the misfortunes that Cleveland and the Warriors are faced with, Banner 18 would've been sure fire.

But no...Danny's apologist never fails.  The puppets who, forever, marginalize their inteligence for some know-it-all GM.  It's funny how the same critics forever question the worst GMs in the league but their own.

Smh.  Danny screwed up big time.  I never backed away from that and I'm glad few smart people around here agrees. 

Yea, draft Balls or Fultz (however tha **** his name is spelled), then what?  What happens to IT and all others guys whose contracts are due?

Reality is going to kick in soon enough for these people around here, if it hasn't already.  1st round bounce.  2nd at best, and 7 to 8 years of thesame.
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: Ilikesports17 on March 07, 2017, 01:14:33 AM
We're not winning a championship this year.

We could've won one.  I said that with no shred of doubt.  With all the misfortunes that Cleveland and the Warriors are faced with, Banner 18 would've been sure fire.

But no...Danny's apologist never fails.  The puppets who, forever, marginalize their inteligence for some know-it-all GM.  It's funny how the same critics forever question the worst GMs in the league but their own.

Smh.  Danny screwed up big time.  I never backed away from that and I'm glad few smart people around here agrees. 

Yea, draft Balls or Fultz (however tha **** his name is spelled), then what?  What happens to IT and all others guys whose contracts are due?

Reality is going to kick in soon enough for these people around here, if it hasn't already.  1st round bounce.  2nd at best.
if you think banner 18 was sure fire you are stupid.
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: knuckleballer on March 07, 2017, 01:14:43 AM
This team is annoying to watch. I don't feel like they have maximized the talent this year.

They have been maximizing talent/over achieving ever since hiring Stevens.  We are expecting them to keep building on that, but this team doesn't have enough talent to contend no matter how good the coaching is.  I like this team and its direction, maximizing talent isn't the issue.  Elite talent is.
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: rocknrollforyoursoul on March 07, 2017, 01:14:59 AM
Somebody has to ask Stevens about that line up after the game, right? 

Mike
This ain't game seven.  Sometimes you put guys out there and hope they don't implode.  Let them learn through the fire.

There is NEVER going to a situation where THAT line up is going to work.

Mike
So let's burn up the starters on a back to back.  There's a bigger picture here.

This might sound silly, but sometimes I wonder why teams play certain games. If back-to-backs are always a bad thing (and it seems they are), why bother playing them? Why can't professional athletes play effectively for two consecutive nights? If they can't do so, why does the league keep scheduling back-to-backs? Just seems silly to me, especially since it's a built-in excuse for every time Boston lays one of these eggs.
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: jpotter33 on March 07, 2017, 01:15:13 AM
I think people are overreacting a bit to this game. Without Horford and JJ, we never should've won this game. This LA team is right there with us as the 5th/6th best team in the league, and losing Horford and JJ for us is like them losing Griffin and Speights. And let's not forget that this is the second night of a back to back for us.

If we're healthy, we can still definitely win in both Golden State and Denver. I actually think Denver is a tougher game for us than Golden State.
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: Ilikesports17 on March 07, 2017, 01:15:48 AM
Somebody has to ask Stevens about that line up after the game, right? 

Mike
This ain't game seven.  Sometimes you put guys out there and hope they don't implode.  Let them learn through the fire.

There is NEVER going to a situation where THAT line up is going to work.

Mike
So let's burn up the starters on a back to back.  There's a bigger picture here.

This might sound silly, but sometimes I wonder why teams play certain games. If back-to-backs are always a bad thing (and it seems they are), why bother playing them? Why can't professional athletes play effectively for two consecutive nights? If they can't do so, why does the league keep scheduling back-to-backs? Just seems silly to me, especially since it's a built-in excuse for every time Boston lays one of these eggs.
I may be wrong but Im pretty sure that we are above average on second night of back to backs.
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: blink on March 07, 2017, 01:15:58 AM
what the heck happened, i stopped watching at 1/2 time for a while to work on my taxes and then come back to see we are down 17...wth?

I think it's fair to say you blinked, and you missed a bunch? ;D

This is shaping up to be a big L, and perhaps the saddest aspect of it is that 99% of the reasoning for it (from fans, at least) will be "Horford was out," "Jaylen was out," and "second half of a back-to-back," and almost no accountability regarding the players who were there. The Clippers have had some struggles this year, DJ's bricking FTs left and right, and Crawford's like 100 years old, and still Boston can't hang with them.

yeah i watched when we were ahead, I should have just stopped at that.

Looks like Crawford heated up in the 2nd half, and no one from the C's did. 

We do need an upgrade in the front court, KO has been regressing, Zellar is garbage for 9/10 games.
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: rocknrollforyoursoul on March 07, 2017, 01:16:40 AM
Would anybody be surprised to see them beat GS and get stomped by Denver? Just so inconsistent.

No. I also wouldn't be surprised to see them lose both; in fact, I'm kind of expecting it. Winning both would probably be the most surprising outcome for me.
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: 86MaxwellSmart on March 07, 2017, 01:16:53 AM
This Loss sits Squarely on Kelly Olynyk.

His 3rd Quarter stretch of BONE-Headed, Weak/Soft Alleged Basketball, turned ALL of the momentum in the Clippers favor---and Brad did not yank him, or call a timeout.

ALL his fault---he Sucks.
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: CelticSooner on March 07, 2017, 01:17:03 AM
This team is annoying to watch. I don't feel like they have maximized the talent this year.

They have been maximizing talent/over achieving ever since hiring Stevens.  We are expecting them to keep building on that, but this team doesn't have enough talent to contend no matter how good the coaching is.  I like this team and its direction, maximizing talent isn't the issue.  Elite talent is.

Maybe some of these guys are worse players than I think? That could certainly be true.
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: Clench123 on March 07, 2017, 01:17:06 AM
We're not winning a championship this year.

We could've won one.  I said that with no shred of doubt.  With all the misfortunes that Cleveland and the Warriors are faced with, Banner 18 would've been sure fire.

But no...Danny's apologist never fails.  The puppets who, forever, marginalize their inteligence for some know-it-all GM.  It's funny how the same critics forever question the worst GMs in the league but their own.

Smh.  Danny screwed up big time.  I never backed away from that and I'm glad few smart people around here agrees. 

Yea, draft Balls or Fultz (however tha **** his name is spelled), then what?  What happens to IT and all others guys whose contracts are due?

Reality is going to kick in soon enough for these people around here, if it hasn't already.  1st round bounce.  2nd at best.
if you think banner 18 was sure fire you are stupid.

Unless you are too ****ing dumb to think that trading for Cousins (whom we would've gotten without having to give up any major picks), Jimmy and/or George wouldn't topple depleted Cavs or Warriors. 

****ing moron.
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: knuckleballer on March 07, 2017, 01:17:08 AM
Too many games like this one is why Olynyk won't be back next year.

I hope he's back.  That said, he needs to be a 15-25 minute player depending on matchups.  Tonight was not a good matchup for him.  The problem is we don't have enough depth at big man defense, rebounding, and rim defense.
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: mr. dee on March 07, 2017, 01:17:21 AM
This team is annoying to watch. I don't feel like they have maximized the talent this year.

They have been maximizing talent/over achieving ever since hiring Stevens.  We are expecting them to keep building on that, but this team doesn't have enough talent to contend no matter how good the coaching is.  I like this team and its direction, maximizing talent isn't the issue.  Elite talent is.

It doesn't need to be an elite talent, a.k.a. superstars. We just need solid players who can sustain production without our starters. It was a lineup of Young, Olynyk and Rozier that started to lay an pile of dung on the court and Steven's super small line up was the nail in the coffin.
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: rocknrollforyoursoul on March 07, 2017, 01:18:34 AM
Somebody has to ask Stevens about that line up after the game, right? 

Mike
This ain't game seven.  Sometimes you put guys out there and hope they don't implode.  Let them learn through the fire.

There is NEVER going to a situation where THAT line up is going to work.

Mike
So let's burn up the starters on a back to back.  There's a bigger picture here.

This might sound silly, but sometimes I wonder why teams play certain games. If back-to-backs are always a bad thing (and it seems they are), why bother playing them? Why can't professional athletes play effectively for two consecutive nights? If they can't do so, why does the league keep scheduling back-to-backs? Just seems silly to me, especially since it's a built-in excuse for every time Boston lays one of these eggs.
I may be wrong but Im pretty sure that we are above average on second night of back to backs.

I think you're right, but that never lessens the excuse-making when they do drop one.
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: jpotter33 on March 07, 2017, 01:19:01 AM
Smart with a 21 point night on efficient shooting, of course along with stellar defense, too. Just more and more signs of development from this kid.

EDIT: And as I say that, he makes a stellar defensive play on Griffin.
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: mr. dee on March 07, 2017, 01:20:14 AM
Meanwhile, on the west, Spurs are just few games away from taking away GSW's spot.
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: Denis998 on March 07, 2017, 01:20:23 AM
Thats a new one from Smart
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: droopdog7 on March 07, 2017, 01:20:50 AM
This team is annoying to watch. I don't feel like they have maximized the talent this year.

They have been maximizing talent/over achieving ever since hiring Stevens.  We are expecting them to keep building on that, but this team doesn't have enough talent to contend no matter how good the coaching is.  I like this team and its direction, maximizing talent isn't the issue.  Elite talent is.

Maybe some of these guys are worse players than I think? That could certainly be true.
We have one very good player (IT), one good player (Al), and a bunch of role players, some of which are not very good.  So yeah, we've been overachieving for a while.
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: tankcity! on March 07, 2017, 01:21:50 AM
This team is annoying to watch. I don't feel like they have maximized the talent this year.

They have been maximizing talent/over achieving ever since hiring Stevens.  We are expecting them to keep building on that, but this team doesn't have enough talent to contend no matter how good the coaching is.  I like this team and its direction, maximizing talent isn't the issue.  Elite talent is.
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Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: CelticSooner on March 07, 2017, 01:22:12 AM
This team is annoying to watch. I don't feel like they have maximized the talent this year.

They have been maximizing talent/over achieving ever since hiring Stevens.  We are expecting them to keep building on that, but this team doesn't have enough talent to contend no matter how good the coaching is.  I like this team and its direction, maximizing talent isn't the issue.  Elite talent is.

Maybe some of these guys are worse players than I think? That could certainly be true.
We have one very good player (IT), one good player (Al), and a bunch of role players, some of which are not very good.  So yeah, we've been overachieving for a while.

That's why I don't have any attachment to anyone on the roster.
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: MVPPierceNoJoke on March 07, 2017, 01:22:16 AM
Kelly the Ogre gave all the momentum to the Clippers. Letting Speights get back to back rebounds over him
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: rocknrollforyoursoul on March 07, 2017, 01:22:18 AM
Smart with a 21 point night on efficient shooting, of course along with stellar defense, too. Just more and more signs of development from this kid.

EDIT: And as I say that, he makes a stellar defensive play on Griffin.

I think you've touched on what will be the ultimate takeaway from this season—the improvement of Smart and Brown—because the team is likely not going beyond the second round.
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: jpotter33 on March 07, 2017, 01:22:59 AM
https://twitter.com/GwashburnGlobe/status/838996380320317440?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

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Besides Smart and Thomas, rest of #Celtics are 18-for-52 FG.

Add Bradley to that mix, and the rest of the C's are 13 for 40. Pathetic. We have such a need for an upgrade in the bigs.
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: Clench123 on March 07, 2017, 01:23:16 AM
Meh.
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: rocknrollforyoursoul on March 07, 2017, 01:23:40 AM
Boston surrendered 73 second-half points. 'Nuff said.
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: Clench123 on March 07, 2017, 01:24:20 AM
This Loss sits Squarely on Kelly Olynyk.

It's on no one but Danny Ainge
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: Ilikesports17 on March 07, 2017, 01:24:39 AM
We're not winning a championship this year.

We could've won one.  I said that with no shred of doubt.  With all the misfortunes that Cleveland and the Warriors are faced with, Banner 18 would've been sure fire.

But no...Danny's apologist never fails.  The puppets who, forever, marginalize their inteligence for some know-it-all GM.  It's funny how the same critics forever question the worst GMs in the league but their own.

Smh.  Danny screwed up big time.  I never backed away from that and I'm glad few smart people around here agrees. 

Yea, draft Balls or Fultz (however tha **** his name is spelled), then what?  What happens to IT and all others guys whose contracts are due?

Reality is going to kick in soon enough for these people around here, if it hasn't already.  1st round bounce.  2nd at best.
if you think banner 18 was sure fire you are stupid.

Unless you are too ****ing dumb to think that trading for Cousins (whom we would've gotten without having to give up any major picks), Jimmy or George wouldn't topple depleted Cavs or Warriors. 

****ing moron.
lol

Theres two things you cant fully evaluate

1. How much of a moron/negative personality is Cousins. Is he actually that toxic? I dont know. I wanted to trade for him. I think Ainge has a better evaluation of that and frankly just how low the price was makes me more confident that Cousins is really that toxic.

2. The prices for Butler/George

Prices could have easily been prohibitive for Butler and George and Cousins is the only one of those guys likely to make us favorites over Cleveland.

To say any player out there save Lebron James makes banner 18 a sure thing is to demonstrate a fundamental misunderstanding of sports.

The 07 Patriots didnt win the superbowl, the 73-9 Warriors lost last years finals.

dont call me a Edited.  Profanity and masked profanity are against forum rules and may result in discipline.ing moron for not having emotional overreactions.

Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: tankcity! on March 07, 2017, 01:24:52 AM
This team is annoying to watch. I don't feel like they have maximized the talent this year.

They have been maximizing talent/over achieving ever since hiring Stevens.  We are expecting them to keep building on that, but this team doesn't have enough talent to contend no matter how good the coaching is.  I like this team and its direction, maximizing talent isn't the issue.  Elite talent is.


It doesn't need to be an elite talent, a.k.a. superstars. We just need solid players who can sustain production without our starters. It was a lineup of Young, Olynyk and Rozier that started to lay an pile of dung on the court and Steven's super small line up was the nail in the coffin.

How about this team makes it past the first round before you say we only need better bench players to win a ring. I totally disagree. I'm not sure we can beat Toronto or the Wizards in the playoffs. The playoffs are a completely different game. It's a halfcourt game. So hold your horse man. Let's see how these guys perform in the playoffs first. I personally think we need another star while keeping the core roster intact.
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: jpotter33 on March 07, 2017, 01:25:01 AM
Smart with a 21 point night on efficient shooting, of course along with stellar defense, too. Just more and more signs of development from this kid.

EDIT: And as I say that, he makes a stellar defensive play on Griffin.

I think you've touched on what will be the ultimate takeaway from this season—the improvement of Smart and Brown—because the team is likely not going beyond the second round.

Eh, it'll depend on the matchup. I think we have a pretty large edge on Washington, but I could certainly see Toronto beating us, even with homecourt advantage.
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: SparzWizard on March 07, 2017, 01:25:25 AM
Meanwhile, on the west, Spurs are just few games away from taking away GSW's spot.

On the other hand, Celtics are NOW 3 games behind Cleveland, and Washington is 1.5 games behind Boston.

And Washington visits the woeful Suns tomorrow. Haaaahahahaha.  :'(
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: Ilikesports17 on March 07, 2017, 01:26:57 AM
Smart with a 21 point night on efficient shooting, of course along with stellar defense, too. Just more and more signs of development from this kid.

EDIT: And as I say that, he makes a stellar defensive play on Griffin.

I think you've touched on what will be the ultimate takeaway from this season—the improvement of Smart and Brown—because the team is likely not going beyond the second round.
The development of Smart and Brown along with the Nets futility are the most important things from this season. Isaiah's emergence as a superstar probably belongs there too.
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: tankcity! on March 07, 2017, 01:27:17 AM
Also, one fair complaint on Ainge is are we ever going to get a rim protector? It's like we prefer soft bigs. I don't get. I really don't understand how Ainge expects us to compete with players like Draymond Green and Tristan Thompson.
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: Ilikesports17 on March 07, 2017, 01:27:38 AM
Smart with a 21 point night on efficient shooting, of course along with stellar defense, too. Just more and more signs of development from this kid.

EDIT: And as I say that, he makes a stellar defensive play on Griffin.

I think you've touched on what will be the ultimate takeaway from this season—the improvement of Smart and Brown—because the team is likely not going beyond the second round.

Eh, it'll depend on the matchup. I think we have a pretty large edge on Washington, but I could certainly see Toronto beating us, even with homecourt advantage.
luckily a Toronto-Boston matchup seems unlikely at the moment .

I dont see us pulling into the 1 seed and I dont see Toronto getting 3rd without Lowry.
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: Kuberski33 on March 07, 2017, 01:28:12 AM
Boston surrendered 73 second-half points. 'Nuff said.
Says it all
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: 86MaxwellSmart on March 07, 2017, 01:28:27 AM
Kelly the Ogre gave all the momentum to the Clippers. Letting Speights get back to back rebounds over him

not to mention his idiot turnovers on the offensive end...game was turned 180 degrees in a blink of his Canadian eye.
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: SparzWizard on March 07, 2017, 01:28:32 AM
Also, one fair complaint on Ainge is are we ever going to get a rim protector? It's like we prefer soft bigs. I don't get. I really don't understand how Ainge expects us to compete with players like Draymond Green and Tristan Thompson.

He just wants it to fit into Brad's usual system, or somewhere along those lines. By getting soft bigs.
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: tankcity! on March 07, 2017, 01:29:07 AM
Can't wait for the draft in the summer. Should be exciting
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: Ilikesports17 on March 07, 2017, 01:29:49 AM
Also, one fair complaint on Ainge is are we ever going to get a rim protector? It's like we prefer soft bigs. I don't get. I really don't understand how Ainge expects us to compete with players like Draymond Green and Tristan Thompson.
Its a bit confusing. Smart and Crowder are basically iron men on the perimeter, but down low we have Kelly Horford and Amir.

Zizic and Yabu fit the bill physically, but you cant count on them to come over and be NBA players.

Ainge does need to find some toughness down low before this team really competes.

Im still down to sign Sully. Hes tough and hes strong down low.
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: tankcity! on March 07, 2017, 01:32:11 AM
Also, one fair complaint on Ainge is are we ever going to get a rim protector? It's like we prefer soft bigs. I don't get. I really don't understand how Ainge expects us to compete with players like Draymond Green and Tristan Thompson.
Its a bit confusing. Smart and Crowder are basically iron men on the perimeter, but down low we have Kelly Horford and Amir.

Zizic and Yabu fit the bill physically, but you cant count on them to come over and be NBA players.

Ainge does need to find some toughness down low before this team really competes.

Im still down to sign Sully. Hes tough and hes strong down low.

I agree, sully was a tough player. I'm hopeful of Zizic. So sick of Olynk and Jerebko lol
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: MVPPierceNoJoke on March 07, 2017, 01:33:23 AM
Also, one fair complaint on Ainge is are we ever going to get a rim protector? It's like we prefer soft bigs. I don't get. I really don't understand how Ainge expects us to compete with players like Draymond Green and Tristan Thompson.

He just wants it to fit into Brad's usual system, or somewhere along those lines. By getting soft bigs.
Ya, Ainge pooped his pants by letting Toronto get Ibaka for basically nothing
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: Clench123 on March 07, 2017, 01:33:27 AM
We're not winning a championship this year.

We could've won one.  I said that with no shred of doubt.  With all the misfortunes that Cleveland and the Warriors are faced with, Banner 18 would've been sure fire.

But no...Danny's apologist never fails.  The puppets who, forever, marginalize their inteligence for some know-it-all GM.  It's funny how the same critics forever question the worst GMs in the league but their own.

Smh.  Danny screwed up big time.  I never backed away from that and I'm glad few smart people around here agrees. 

Yea, draft Balls or Fultz (however tha **** his name is spelled), then what?  What happens to IT and all others guys whose contracts are due?

Reality is going to kick in soon enough for these people around here, if it hasn't already.  1st round bounce.  2nd at best.
if you think banner 18 was sure fire you are stupid.

Unless you are too ****ing dumb to think that trading for Cousins (whom we would've gotten without having to give up any major picks), Jimmy or George wouldn't topple depleted Cavs or Warriors. 

****ing moron.
lol

Theres two things you cant fully evaluate

1. How much of a moron/negative personality is Cousins. Is he actually that toxic? I dont know. I wanted to trade for him. I think Ainge has a better evaluation of that and frankly just how low the price was makes me more confident that Cousins is really that toxic.

2. The prices for Butler/George

Prices could have easily been prohibitive for Butler and George and Cousins is the only one of those guys likely to make us favorites over Cleveland.

To say any player out there save Lebron James makes banner 18 a sure thing is to demonstrate a fundamental misunderstanding of sports.

The 07 Patriots didnt win the superbowl, the 73-9 Warriors lost last years finals.

dont call me a ****ing moron for not having emotional overreactions.

Yea, compare football to basketball.  Here's where it would've been advisable for me to cut off this ridiculous back-and-fourth.  How is comparing, fundamentally, two completely different sports in an effort to bolster the empty points you're trying to make?  How about we compare compare basketball to boxing?  As long as the two are sports, why not?

Stop the nonsense.  I didn't say a player.  I mentioned 2 to 3 names.  MORONS always twist situations to fit their ridiculous assertions. 

Read what I said, and post your **** again.  How about that? 
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: jpotter33 on March 07, 2017, 01:33:34 AM
Smart with a 21 point night on efficient shooting, of course along with stellar defense, too. Just more and more signs of development from this kid.

EDIT: And as I say that, he makes a stellar defensive play on Griffin.

I think you've touched on what will be the ultimate takeaway from this season—the improvement of Smart and Brown—because the team is likely not going beyond the second round.

Eh, it'll depend on the matchup. I think we have a pretty large edge on Washington, but I could certainly see Toronto beating us, even with homecourt advantage.
luckily a Toronto-Boston matchup seems unlikely at the moment .

I dont see us pulling into the 1 seed and I dont see Toronto getting 3rd without Lowry.

Yeah, I don't see us getting the one seed either, even though Cleveland has been giving us EVERY opportunity to do so. Ultimately, it won't matter anyways. We're not beating Cleveland even with homecourt advantage. But still, I do wonder if that would give us a bit more pull with free agents, along with giving us a chance to make it a closer series with Cleveland, if we even make it that far.

But like I said, I still like our chances of a HEALTHY C's squad against Washington in the second round. We swept them for a reason last year, and we haven't been healthy at all when facing them this year. But I feel MUCH, MUCH more confident about our chances with them with homecourt advantage rather than not having homecourt advantage.

Then again, we have to get past the first found first. Chicago could make things difficult for us, but I don't anticipate serious issues with any of the other potential opponents.
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: Clench123 on March 07, 2017, 01:35:34 AM
And I'm tipsy.  So, please, pardon the grammatical errors, but as long as you understand what I'm trying to say, it's all good.  A drunk man never tell tales. 
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: SparzWizard on March 07, 2017, 01:37:55 AM
Smart with a 21 point night on efficient shooting, of course along with stellar defense, too. Just more and more signs of development from this kid.

EDIT: And as I say that, he makes a stellar defensive play on Griffin.

I think you've touched on what will be the ultimate takeaway from this season—the improvement of Smart and Brown—because the team is likely not going beyond the second round.

Eh, it'll depend on the matchup. I think we have a pretty large edge on Washington, but I could certainly see Toronto beating us, even with homecourt advantage.
luckily a Toronto-Boston matchup seems unlikely at the moment .

I dont see us pulling into the 1 seed and I dont see Toronto getting 3rd without Lowry.

Yeah, I don't see us getting the one seed either, even though Cleveland has been giving us EVERY opportunity to do so. Ultimately, it won't matter anyways. We're not beating Cleveland even with homecourt advantage. But still, I do wonder if that would give us a bit more pull with free agents, along with giving us a chance to make it a closer series with Cleveland, if we even make it that far.

But like I said, I still like our chances of a HEALTHY C's squad against Washington in the second round. We swept them for a reason last year, and we haven't been healthy at all when facing them this year. But I feel MUCH, MUCH more confident about our chances with them with homecourt advantage rather than not having homecourt advantage.

Then again, we have to get past the first found first. Chicago could make things difficult for us, but I don't anticipate serious issues with any of the other potential opponents.

Indeed. Let's not get too ahead of ourselves and talk about Washington. Focus on first-round opponents first. Chicago is always tough whether it's in TD Garden or in United Center.
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: tankcity! on March 07, 2017, 01:38:43 AM
Smart with a 21 point night on efficient shooting, of course along with stellar defense, too. Just more and more signs of development from this kid.

EDIT: And as I say that, he makes a stellar defensive play on Griffin.

I think you've touched on what will be the ultimate takeaway from this season—the improvement of Smart and Brown—because the team is likely not going beyond the second round.

Eh, it'll depend on the matchup. I think we have a pretty large edge on Washington, but I could certainly see Toronto beating us, even with homecourt advantage.
luckily a Toronto-Boston matchup seems unlikely at the moment .

I dont see us pulling into the 1 seed and I dont see Toronto getting 3rd without Lowry.

Yeah, I don't see us getting the one seed either, even though Cleveland has been giving us EVERY opportunity to do so. Ultimately, it won't matter anyways. We're not beating Cleveland even with homecourt advantage. But still, I do wonder if that would give us a bit more pull with free agents, along with giving us a chance to make it a closer series with Cleveland, if we even make it that far.

But like I said, I still like our chances of a HEALTHY C's squad against Washington in the second round. We swept them for a reason last year, and we haven't been healthy at all when facing them this year. But I feel MUCH, MUCH more confident about our chances with them with homecourt advantage rather than not having homecourt advantage.

Then again, we have to get past the first found first. Chicago could make things difficult for us, but I don't anticipate serious issues with any of the other potential opponents.

Horford makes a huge difference imo because it's less minutes for jerebko and Olynk. Hard to make a judgement on the team without Horford playing. I think we have the coach and players to get to the ECF too. Just not going to get too high or low from the results.

Hopefully Stevens shortens the rotation and plays Brown more instead of JJ. Seriously, that guy has the slowest release in the world. I'm also worried about Crowder. He's been bad at 3s since February
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: Ilikesports17 on March 07, 2017, 01:44:34 AM
We're not winning a championship this year.

We could've won one.  I said that with no shred of doubt.  With all the misfortunes that Cleveland and the Warriors are faced with, Banner 18 would've been sure fire.

But no...Danny's apologist never fails.  The puppets who, forever, marginalize their inteligence for some know-it-all GM.  It's funny how the same critics forever question the worst GMs in the league but their own.

Smh.  Danny screwed up big time.  I never backed away from that and I'm glad few smart people around here agrees. 

Yea, draft Balls or Fultz (however tha **** his name is spelled), then what?  What happens to IT and all others guys whose contracts are due?

Reality is going to kick in soon enough for these people around here, if it hasn't already.  1st round bounce.  2nd at best.
if you think banner 18 was sure fire you are stupid.

Unless you are too ****ing dumb to think that trading for Cousins (whom we would've gotten without having to give up any major picks), Jimmy or George wouldn't topple depleted Cavs or Warriors. 

****ing moron.
lol

Theres two things you cant fully evaluate

1. How much of a moron/negative personality is Cousins. Is he actually that toxic? I dont know. I wanted to trade for him. I think Ainge has a better evaluation of that and frankly just how low the price was makes me more confident that Cousins is really that toxic.

2. The prices for Butler/George

Prices could have easily been prohibitive for Butler and George and Cousins is the only one of those guys likely to make us favorites over Cleveland.

To say any player out there save Lebron James makes banner 18 a sure thing is to demonstrate a fundamental misunderstanding of sports.

The 07 Patriots didnt win the superbowl, the 73-9 Warriors lost last years finals.

dont call me a ****ing moron for not having emotional overreactions.

Yea, compare football to basketball.  Here's where it would've been advisable for me to cut off this ridiculous back-and-fourth.  How is comparing, fundamentally, two completely two different sports in an effort to bolster the empty points you're trying to make?  How about we compare compare basketball to boxing?  As long as the two are sports, why not?

Stop the nonsense.  I didn't say a player.  I mentioned 2 to 3 names.  MORONS always twist situations to fit their ridiculous assertions. 

Read what I said, and post your **** again.  How about that?
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We could've won one.  I said that with no shred of doubt.  With all the misfortunes that Cleveland and the Warriors are faced with, Banner 18 would've been sure fire.
by definition you claim that a championship would have been guaranteed beyond all doubt. Meaning effectively there is a 0% chance we do not win a championship. In sports, even basketball, this is never true. Thats my main objective, but Ill move past that for now.

You go on to list the conditions at which we could win a championship.
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Unless you are too ****ing dumb to think that trading for Cousins (whom we would've gotten without having to give up any major picks), Jimmy or George wouldn't topple depleted Cavs or Warriors. 
trading for a, b or c means trading for one of the three.

had you said Cousins AND Jimmy or George the debate would be slightly different.

As such, I am left to evaluate 3 players.

I dont believe that the addition Butler or George would immediately make us favorites over Cleveland. Perhaps with the Love injury it makes it a toss-up. Cousins, assuming his sanity (which is something just about every NBA GM decided not to do) probably makes us favorites over the Cavs and potentially even favorites over the Durantless Warriors. Probably a toss-up vs. the Warriors if KD is healthy (those are some very optimistic projections).

All that said, even the most green eyed Celtic homer would concede that there would still be non-trivial chance that we win a championship. Thus a ring would not be surefire.
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: Ilikesports17 on March 07, 2017, 01:46:27 AM
And I'm tipsy.  So, please, pardon the grammatical errors, but as long as you understand what I'm trying to say, it's all good.  A drunk man never tell tales.
no but they say illogical things like saying a championship is "surefire"
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: Dannys Chipotle Guy on March 07, 2017, 01:47:37 AM
We're not winning a championship this year.

We could've won one.  I said that with no shred of doubt.  With all the misfortunes that Cleveland and the Warriors are faced with, Banner 18 would've been sure fire.

But no...Danny's apologist never fails.  The puppets who, forever, marginalize their inteligence for some know-it-all GM.  It's funny how the same critics forever question the worst GMs in the league but their own.

Smh.  Danny screwed up big time.  I never backed away from that and I'm glad few smart people around here agrees. 

Yea, draft Balls or Fultz (however tha **** his name is spelled), then what?  What happens to IT and all others guys whose contracts are due?

Reality is going to kick in soon enough for these people around here, if it hasn't already.  1st round bounce.  2nd at best.
if you think banner 18 was sure fire you are stupid.

Unless you are too ****ing dumb to think that trading for Cousins (whom we would've gotten without having to give up any major picks), Jimmy or George wouldn't topple depleted Cavs or Warriors. 

****ing moron.
lol

Theres two things you cant fully evaluate

1. How much of a moron/negative personality is Cousins. Is he actually that toxic? I dont know. I wanted to trade for him. I think Ainge has a better evaluation of that and frankly just how low the price was makes me more confident that Cousins is really that toxic.

2. The prices for Butler/George

Prices could have easily been prohibitive for Butler and George and Cousins is the only one of those guys likely to make us favorites over Cleveland.

To say any player out there save Lebron James makes banner 18 a sure thing is to demonstrate a fundamental misunderstanding of sports.

The 07 Patriots didnt win the superbowl, the 73-9 Warriors lost last years finals.

dont call me a ****ing moron for not having emotional overreactions.

Yea, compare football to basketball.  Here's where it would've been advisable for me to cut off this ridiculous back-and-fourth.  How is comparing, fundamentally, two completely two different sports in an effort to bolster the empty points you're trying to make?  How about we compare compare basketball to boxing?  As long as the two are sports, why not?

Stop the nonsense.  I didn't say a player.  I mentioned 2 to 3 names.  MORONS always twist situations to fit their ridiculous assertions. 

Read what I said, and post your **** again.  How about that?
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We could've won one.  I said that with no shred of doubt.  With all the misfortunes that Cleveland and the Warriors are faced with, Banner 18 would've been sure fire.
by definition you claim that a championship would have been guaranteed beyond all doubt. Meaning effectively there is a 0% chance we do not win a championship. In sports, even basketball, this is never true. Thats my main objective, but Ill move past that for now.

You go on to list the conditions at which we could win a championship.
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Unless you are too ****ing dumb to think that trading for Cousins (whom we would've gotten without having to give up any major picks), Jimmy or George wouldn't topple depleted Cavs or Warriors. 
trading for a, b or c means trading for one of the three.

had you said Cousins AND Jimmy or George the debate would be slightly different.

As such, I am left to evaluate 3 players.

I dont believe that the addition Butler or George would immediately make us favorites over Cleveland. Perhaps with the Love injury it makes it a toss-up. Cousins, assuming his sanity (which is something just about every NBA GM decided not to do) probably makes us favorites over the Cavs and potentially even favorites over the Durantless Warriors. Probably a toss-up vs. the Warriors if KD is healthy (those are some very optimistic projections).

All that said, even the most green eyed Celtic homer would concede that there would still be non-trivial chance that we win a championship. Thus a ring would not be surefire.
I think we had a real opportunity at a ring this year, but you are correct. To call it a surefire banner is foolhardy.
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: iadera on March 07, 2017, 01:48:50 AM
We were +13 in 3rd and again terrible 4th quarter! We need a shrink!
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: Clench123 on March 07, 2017, 01:52:40 AM
We're not winning a championship this year.

We could've won one.  I said that with no shred of doubt.  With all the misfortunes that Cleveland and the Warriors are faced with, Banner 18 would've been sure fire.

But no...Danny's apologist never fails.  The puppets who, forever, marginalize their inteligence for some know-it-all GM.  It's funny how the same critics forever question the worst GMs in the league but their own.

Smh.  Danny screwed up big time.  I never backed away from that and I'm glad few smart people around here agrees. 

Yea, draft Balls or Fultz (however tha **** his name is spelled), then what?  What happens to IT and all others guys whose contracts are due?

Reality is going to kick in soon enough for these people around here, if it hasn't already.  1st round bounce.  2nd at best.
if you think banner 18 was sure fire you are stupid.

Unless you are too ****ing dumb to think that trading for Cousins (whom we would've gotten without having to give up any major picks), Jimmy or George wouldn't topple depleted Cavs or Warriors. 

****ing moron.
lol

Theres two things you cant fully evaluate

1. How much of a moron/negative personality is Cousins. Is he actually that toxic? I dont know. I wanted to trade for him. I think Ainge has a better evaluation of that and frankly just how low the price was makes me more confident that Cousins is really that toxic.

2. The prices for Butler/George

Prices could have easily been prohibitive for Butler and George and Cousins is the only one of those guys likely to make us favorites over Cleveland.

To say any player out there save Lebron James makes banner 18 a sure thing is to demonstrate a fundamental misunderstanding of sports.

The 07 Patriots didnt win the superbowl, the 73-9 Warriors lost last years finals.

dont call me a ****ing moron for not having emotional overreactions.

Yea, compare football to basketball.  Here's where it would've been advisable for me to cut off this ridiculous back-and-fourth.  How is comparing, fundamentally, two completely two different sports in an effort to bolster the empty points you're trying to make?  How about we compare compare basketball to boxing?  As long as the two are sports, why not?

Stop the nonsense.  I didn't say a player.  I mentioned 2 to 3 names.  MORONS always twist situations to fit their ridiculous assertions. 

Read what I said, and post your **** again.  How about that?
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We could've won one.  I said that with no shred of doubt.  With all the misfortunes that Cleveland and the Warriors are faced with, Banner 18 would've been sure fire.
by definition you claim that a championship would have been guaranteed beyond all doubt. Meaning effectively there is a 0% chance we do not win a championship. In sports, even basketball, this is never true. Thats my main objective, but Ill move past that for now.

You go on to list the conditions at which we could win a championship.
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Unless you are too ****ing dumb to think that trading for Cousins (whom we would've gotten without having to give up any major picks), Jimmy or George wouldn't topple depleted Cavs or Warriors. 
trading for a, b or c means trading for one of the three.

had you said Cousins AND Jimmy or George the debate would be slightly different.

As such, I am left to evaluate 3 players.

I dont believe that the addition Butler or George would immediately make us favorites over Cleveland. Perhaps with the Love injury it makes it a toss-up. Cousins, assuming his sanity (which is something just about every NBA GM decided not to do) probably makes us favorites over the Cavs and potentially even favorites over the Durantless Warriors. Probably a toss-up vs. the Warriors if KD is healthy (those are some very optimistic projections).

All that said, even the most green eyed Celtic homer would concede that there would still be non-trivial chance that we win a championship. Thus a ring would not be surefire.

Are you this stupid?  Don't try and be technical when I'm too impaired for it even though I know that you know what I"m talking about.  I wouldn't have put in parenthesis "whom we would've gotten without having to give up any major picks" if I only meant one player.  I would've just named Cousins and that would've been it.  I put that sentence in parenthesis with the knowledge that we would still be the highest bidder for either George or Butler or both had we traded for Cousins, whose trade alone would've made us competitive and on par with the Cavs.

Cut the BS.  I'm not here to argue semantics.  I said what I said and what I said is what I said.  Don't try twisting my words.
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: mr. dee on March 07, 2017, 01:53:41 AM
This team is annoying to watch. I don't feel like they have maximized the talent this year.

They have been maximizing talent/over achieving ever since hiring Stevens.  We are expecting them to keep building on that, but this team doesn't have enough talent to contend no matter how good the coaching is.  I like this team and its direction, maximizing talent isn't the issue.  Elite talent is.


It doesn't need to be an elite talent, a.k.a. superstars. We just need solid players who can sustain production without our starters. It was a lineup of Young, Olynyk and Rozier that started to lay an pile of dung on the court and Steven's super small line up was the nail in the coffin.

How about this team makes it past the first round before you say we only need better bench players to win a ring. I totally disagree. I'm not sure we can beat Toronto or the Wizards in the playoffs. The playoffs are a completely different game. It's a halfcourt game. So hold your horse man. Let's see how these guys perform in the playoffs first. I personally think we need another star while keeping the core roster intact.

Did 2004 Pistons have MVP calibre players? How about the 2014 Spurs? Duncan is far from his former MVP caliber self and Kawhi was just starting to tap the potential within him that year, just close but not quite the superstar yet. 2002 Kings who was arguably the real champs didn't have superstars either. I'd say that if we manage to make it far in this year's playoffs, depth will be a huge factor for this team. If you mean All-Star calibre player, we can just produce them as signing or trading one in the market will be expensive.

But yes, I agree that we should look first how this current team will go to determine who's to stay and who's to go.
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: Clench123 on March 07, 2017, 01:54:49 AM
And I'm tipsy.  So, please, pardon the grammatical errors, but as long as you understand what I'm trying to say, it's all good.  A drunk man never tell tales.
no but they say illogical things like saying a championship is "surefire"

Like making a surefire prediction that the Warriors are the favorites to win the championship had everything gone their way?
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: jpotter33 on March 07, 2017, 02:05:05 AM
Smart with a 21 point night on efficient shooting, of course along with stellar defense, too. Just more and more signs of development from this kid.

EDIT: And as I say that, he makes a stellar defensive play on Griffin.

I think you've touched on what will be the ultimate takeaway from this season—the improvement of Smart and Brown—because the team is likely not going beyond the second round.

Eh, it'll depend on the matchup. I think we have a pretty large edge on Washington, but I could certainly see Toronto beating us, even with homecourt advantage.
luckily a Toronto-Boston matchup seems unlikely at the moment .

I dont see us pulling into the 1 seed and I dont see Toronto getting 3rd without Lowry.

Yeah, I don't see us getting the one seed either, even though Cleveland has been giving us EVERY opportunity to do so. Ultimately, it won't matter anyways. We're not beating Cleveland even with homecourt advantage. But still, I do wonder if that would give us a bit more pull with free agents, along with giving us a chance to make it a closer series with Cleveland, if we even make it that far.

But like I said, I still like our chances of a HEALTHY C's squad against Washington in the second round. We swept them for a reason last year, and we haven't been healthy at all when facing them this year. But I feel MUCH, MUCH more confident about our chances with them with homecourt advantage rather than not having homecourt advantage.

Then again, we have to get past the first found first. Chicago could make things difficult for us, but I don't anticipate serious issues with any of the other potential opponents.

Horford makes a huge difference imo because it's less minutes for jerebko and Olynk. Hard to make a judgement on the team without Horford playing. I think we have the coach and players to get to the ECF too. Just not going to get too high or low from the results.

Hopefully Stevens shortens the rotation and plays Brown more instead of JJ. Seriously, that guy has the slowest release in the world. I'm also worried about Crowder. He's been bad at 3s since February

Yep. Nothing you can really take away from tonight. The fact that we were even in the game and leading for most of the game on the second night of a back to back with several injuries to key rotation players says more than anything.

Further, with regard to Washington, we haven't played them with our full starting five yet, missing two starters in two of the games. And every game they were virtually fully healthy, too, so fully healthy, I think we have their number.

Game 1 - No Al or Jae; they were healthy
Game 2 - No Amir, Bradley, or Brown; they were healthy outside of end of the bench players
Game 3 - No Bradley ; they were healthy
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: Ilikesports17 on March 07, 2017, 02:13:34 AM
And I'm tipsy.  So, please, pardon the grammatical errors, but as long as you understand what I'm trying to say, it's all good.  A drunk man never tell tales.
no but they say illogical things like saying a championship is "surefire"

Like making a surefire prediction that the Warriors are the favorites to win the championship had everything gone their way?
"had everything gone their way" is a really important qualifier here.
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: Ilikesports17 on March 07, 2017, 02:15:55 AM
We're not winning a championship this year.

We could've won one.  I said that with no shred of doubt.  With all the misfortunes that Cleveland and the Warriors are faced with, Banner 18 would've been sure fire.

But no...Danny's apologist never fails.  The puppets who, forever, marginalize their inteligence for some know-it-all GM.  It's funny how the same critics forever question the worst GMs in the league but their own.

Smh.  Danny screwed up big time.  I never backed away from that and I'm glad few smart people around here agrees. 

Yea, draft Balls or Fultz (however tha **** his name is spelled), then what?  What happens to IT and all others guys whose contracts are due?

Reality is going to kick in soon enough for these people around here, if it hasn't already.  1st round bounce.  2nd at best.
if you think banner 18 was sure fire you are stupid.

Unless you are too ****ing dumb to think that trading for Cousins (whom we would've gotten without having to give up any major picks), Jimmy or George wouldn't topple depleted Cavs or Warriors. 

****ing moron.
lol

Theres two things you cant fully evaluate

1. How much of a moron/negative personality is Cousins. Is he actually that toxic? I dont know. I wanted to trade for him. I think Ainge has a better evaluation of that and frankly just how low the price was makes me more confident that Cousins is really that toxic.

2. The prices for Butler/George

Prices could have easily been prohibitive for Butler and George and Cousins is the only one of those guys likely to make us favorites over Cleveland.

To say any player out there save Lebron James makes banner 18 a sure thing is to demonstrate a fundamental misunderstanding of sports.

The 07 Patriots didnt win the superbowl, the 73-9 Warriors lost last years finals.

dont call me a ****ing moron for not having emotional overreactions.

Yea, compare football to basketball.  Here's where it would've been advisable for me to cut off this ridiculous back-and-fourth.  How is comparing, fundamentally, two completely two different sports in an effort to bolster the empty points you're trying to make?  How about we compare compare basketball to boxing?  As long as the two are sports, why not?

Stop the nonsense.  I didn't say a player.  I mentioned 2 to 3 names.  MORONS always twist situations to fit their ridiculous assertions. 

Read what I said, and post your **** again.  How about that?
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We could've won one.  I said that with no shred of doubt.  With all the misfortunes that Cleveland and the Warriors are faced with, Banner 18 would've been sure fire.
by definition you claim that a championship would have been guaranteed beyond all doubt. Meaning effectively there is a 0% chance we do not win a championship. In sports, even basketball, this is never true. Thats my main objective, but Ill move past that for now.

You go on to list the conditions at which we could win a championship.
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Unless you are too ****ing dumb to think that trading for Cousins (whom we would've gotten without having to give up any major picks), Jimmy or George wouldn't topple depleted Cavs or Warriors. 
trading for a, b or c means trading for one of the three.

had you said Cousins AND Jimmy or George the debate would be slightly different.

As such, I am left to evaluate 3 players.

I dont believe that the addition Butler or George would immediately make us favorites over Cleveland. Perhaps with the Love injury it makes it a toss-up. Cousins, assuming his sanity (which is something just about every NBA GM decided not to do) probably makes us favorites over the Cavs and potentially even favorites over the Durantless Warriors. Probably a toss-up vs. the Warriors if KD is healthy (those are some very optimistic projections).

All that said, even the most green eyed Celtic homer would concede that there would still be non-trivial chance that we win a championship. Thus a ring would not be surefire.

Are you this stupid?  Don't try and be technical when I'm too impaired for it even though I know that you know what I"m talking about.  I wouldn't have put in parenthesis "whom we would've gotten without having to give up any major picks" if I only meant one player.  I would've just named Cousins and that would've been it.  I put that sentence in parenthesis with the knowledge that we would still be the highest bidder for either George or Butler or both had we traded for Cousins, whose trade alone would've made us competitive and on par with the Cavs.

Cut the BS.  I'm not here to argue semantics. I said what I said and what I said is what I said.  Don't try twisting my words.
lol you are a mess rn
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: tarheelsxxiii on March 07, 2017, 02:31:13 AM
There will be a ban, but if Roy is running this ship, I believe the sentence will be fair and just. 

I gave you both TPs for showing more aggression than our frontcourt ever does.
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: CelticSince83 on March 07, 2017, 02:34:12 AM
This team is annoying to watch. I don't feel like they have maximized the talent this year.

They have been maximizing talent/over achieving ever since hiring Stevens.  We are expecting them to keep building on that, but this team doesn't have enough talent to contend no matter how good the coaching is.  I like this team and its direction, maximizing talent isn't the issue.  Elite talent is.


It doesn't need to be an elite talent, a.k.a. superstars. We just need solid players who can sustain production without our starters. It was a lineup of Young, Olynyk and Rozier that started to lay an pile of dung on the court and Steven's super small line up was the nail in the coffin.

How about this team makes it past the first round before you say we only need better bench players to win a ring. I totally disagree. I'm not sure we can beat Toronto or the Wizards in the playoffs. The playoffs are a completely different game. It's a halfcourt game. So hold your horse man. Let's see how these guys perform in the playoffs first. I personally think we need another star while keeping the core roster intact.

Did 2004 Pistons have MVP calibre players? How about the 2014 Spurs? Duncan is far from his former MVP caliber self and Kawhi was just starting to tap the potential within him that year, just close but not quite the superstar yet. 2002 Kings who was arguably the real champs didn't have superstars either. I'd say that if we manage to make it far in this year's playoffs, depth will be a huge factor for this team. If you mean All-Star calibre player, we can just produce them as signing or trading one in the market will be expensive.

But yes, I agree that we should look first how this current team will go to determine who's to stay and who's to go.

Not the point, but are you sure the 2002 Kings did not have a superstar?
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: Clench123 on March 07, 2017, 03:07:12 AM
We're not winning a championship this year.

We could've won one.  I said that with no shred of doubt.  With all the misfortunes that Cleveland and the Warriors are faced with, Banner 18 would've been sure fire.

But no...Danny's apologist never fails.  The puppets who, forever, marginalize their inteligence for some know-it-all GM.  It's funny how the same critics forever question the worst GMs in the league but their own.

Smh.  Danny screwed up big time.  I never backed away from that and I'm glad few smart people around here agrees. 

Yea, draft Balls or Fultz (however tha **** his name is spelled), then what?  What happens to IT and all others guys whose contracts are due?

Reality is going to kick in soon enough for these people around here, if it hasn't already.  1st round bounce.  2nd at best.
if you think banner 18 was sure fire you are stupid.

Unless you are too ****ing dumb to think that trading for Cousins (whom we would've gotten without having to give up any major picks), Jimmy or George wouldn't topple depleted Cavs or Warriors. 

****ing moron.
lol

Theres two things you cant fully evaluate

1. How much of a moron/negative personality is Cousins. Is he actually that toxic? I dont know. I wanted to trade for him. I think Ainge has a better evaluation of that and frankly just how low the price was makes me more confident that Cousins is really that toxic.

2. The prices for Butler/George

Prices could have easily been prohibitive for Butler and George and Cousins is the only one of those guys likely to make us favorites over Cleveland.

To say any player out there save Lebron James makes banner 18 a sure thing is to demonstrate a fundamental misunderstanding of sports.

The 07 Patriots didnt win the superbowl, the 73-9 Warriors lost last years finals.

dont call me a ****ing moron for not having emotional overreactions.

Yea, compare football to basketball.  Here's where it would've been advisable for me to cut off this ridiculous back-and-fourth.  How is comparing, fundamentally, two completely two different sports in an effort to bolster the empty points you're trying to make?  How about we compare compare basketball to boxing?  As long as the two are sports, why not?

Stop the nonsense.  I didn't say a player.  I mentioned 2 to 3 names.  MORONS always twist situations to fit their ridiculous assertions. 

Read what I said, and post your **** again.  How about that?
Quote
We could've won one.  I said that with no shred of doubt.  With all the misfortunes that Cleveland and the Warriors are faced with, Banner 18 would've been sure fire.
by definition you claim that a championship would have been guaranteed beyond all doubt. Meaning effectively there is a 0% chance we do not win a championship. In sports, even basketball, this is never true. Thats my main objective, but Ill move past that for now.

You go on to list the conditions at which we could win a championship.
Quote
Unless you are too ****ing dumb to think that trading for Cousins (whom we would've gotten without having to give up any major picks), Jimmy or George wouldn't topple depleted Cavs or Warriors. 
trading for a, b or c means trading for one of the three.

had you said Cousins AND Jimmy or George the debate would be slightly different.

As such, I am left to evaluate 3 players.

I dont believe that the addition Butler or George would immediately make us favorites over Cleveland. Perhaps with the Love injury it makes it a toss-up. Cousins, assuming his sanity (which is something just about every NBA GM decided not to do) probably makes us favorites over the Cavs and potentially even favorites over the Durantless Warriors. Probably a toss-up vs. the Warriors if KD is healthy (those are some very optimistic projections).

All that said, even the most green eyed Celtic homer would concede that there would still be non-trivial chance that we win a championship. Thus a ring would not be surefire.

Are you this stupid?  Don't try and be technical when I'm too impaired for it even though I know that you know what I"m talking about.  I wouldn't have put in parenthesis "whom we would've gotten without having to give up any major picks" if I only meant one player.  I would've just named Cousins and that would've been it.  I put that sentence in parenthesis with the knowledge that we would still be the highest bidder for either George or Butler or both had we traded for Cousins, whose trade alone would've made us competitive and on par with the Cavs.

Cut the BS.  I'm not here to argue semantics. I said what I said and what I said is what I said.  Don't try twisting my words.
lol you are a mess rn

Yea...that's the meat of that post  ::)

Danny's apologist never seize to surprise me.  That unfallable savior snoozed on his own hype at the deadline and lost, and his supporter has no foresight to decipher reality from delusion.  That's the saddest part to me.
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: RockinRyA on March 07, 2017, 03:12:30 AM
Clench the fortuneteller at it again  ::)

Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: Celtics4ever on March 07, 2017, 06:33:55 AM
I think on paper than LAC are more talented than us and they showed it last night.  They are just in the West they would probably be a top three team and in the East and push us down the Totem pole.

We did not have Horford and JJ and we were thin in the front court.   As a poster stated yesterday reactions to wins and losses are pretty severe here.  Let the knee jerk reactions begin!
Title: Re: Celtics (40-23) at Clippers (37-25) Game #64 3/6/17
Post by: jambr380 on March 07, 2017, 08:59:38 AM
I think on paper than LAC are more talented than us and they showed it last night.  They are just in the West they would probably be a top three team and in the East and push us down the Totem pole.

We did not have Horford and JJ and we were thin in the front court.   As a poster stated yesterday reactions to wins and losses are pretty severe here.  Let the knee jerk reactions begin!

Eh, I'm not so sure. We were without our [borderline] all-star big (and another rotation PF) playing away on the 2nd night of a back to back against a mostly healthy and rejuvenated Clippers team. The way we played defense in the 1st half may have otherwise been sustainable.

Add in the fact that outside of IT and Smart, or offense was absolutely atrocious. I'm just not 100% sure the Clips are better than the Cs, but it is certainly close.