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Around the League => Around the NBA => Topic started by: Phantom255x on February 17, 2017, 10:05:26 PM
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http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/18705368/paul-george-noncommittal-signing-contract-extension-indiana-pacers
So as the ESPN report says and as @jpotter33 posted on the forums, Paul George is hesitant on signing an extension with the Pacers, because he wants to play for a "winning team", and the Pacers haven't been that great and are likely to be stuck in mediocrity for years to come.
Unless Bird can somehow bring another star to Indiana and another solid role player between now and the start of next season, Indiana will likely stay a fringe playoff team and NOT be a Top-4 team in the East. There was lots of hope especially when they added Teague, but it hasn't gotten them to Top-3 or Top-4 in the East as they hoped (now they are more a "distant 6th seed" and just 2 games ahead of the 8 seed).
McHale got Ainge and Boston Kevin Garnett, now maybe Larry Bird can help us out ;D :P
I don't expect a trade to happen at the deadline, but if the Pacers continue to frustrate the rest of the season and in the playoffs (early exit), George may officially want out, and who but the Boston Celtics will come on knocking with their trade talks this summer.
IT says he will no doubt recruit at the deadline, but he won't say specifically "which players" he will recruit. After this report came out though, PG13 better be one of his priorities now.
For the season, PG13 is averaging 22/6/3 in ~36 MPG, though he hasn't done that well recently although part of that may be the frustration settling in with the Pacers these days.
My trade idea for PG13:
2017 Brooklyn Pick, Avery Bradley, Tyler Zeller, Terry Rozier, 2018 Boston First Rounder and 2019 Grizzlies OR Clippers First Rounder (their choice) for PG13. Sound fair?
Anyways, we can use this thread to monitor PG13 for the rest of the season, and for any developments that come up between now and this June.
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Shouldn't we call it a wish thread? There is less than zero chance that Bird trades George short of a package no one will offer. Just lock it.
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Shouldn't we call it a wish thread? There is less than zero chance that Bird trades George short of a package no one will offer. Just lock it.
If we went by that logic, the other threads like Boogie, Butler, etc. would be locked too.
And if PG13 decides he's had enough of Indiana after this season, I don't think Bird has much of a choice. He won't be cheap obviously but his price may go down a tad bit.
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@jpotter is like a legitimate source now. If he reported something in contradiction to Woj, I'd take our guy's word for it.
Time for a serious hypothetical, phantom. Bird calls your cell phone and leaves the following voicemail: "Phantom, my dude! Listen, I'll call Danny and send over PG for your proposed package, if you agree to never post on Celticsblog again. I love your work there, but you're hurting my guys' trade values."
What do you do? The right answer will earn you a lot of TPs, so choose wisely...
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Shouldn't we call it a wish thread? There is less than zero chance that Bird trades George short of a package no one will offer. Just lock it.
We're gonna lock you for persistent intolerance, buddy. If this was AOL and I had a punter, you'd be offline right.about.now!
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Shouldn't we call it a wish thread? There is less than zero chance that Bird trades George short of a package no one will offer. Just lock it.
We're gonna lock you for persistent intolerance, buddy. If this was AOL and I had a punter, you'd be offline right.about.now!
Neat.
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Shouldn't we call it a wish thread? There is less than zero chance that Bird trades George short of a package no one will offer. Just lock it.
If we went by that logic, the other threads like Boogie, Butler, etc. would be locked too.
Exactly.
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@jpotter is like a legitimate source now. If he reported something in contradiction to Woj, I'd take our guy's word for it.
Time for a serious hypothetical, phantom. Bird calls your cell phone and leaves the following voicemail: "Phantom, my dude! Listen, I'll call Danny and send over PG for your proposed package, if you agree to never post on Celticsblog again. I love your work there, but you're hurting my guys' trade values."
What do you do? The right answer will earn you a lot of TPs, so choose wisely...
I mean.. couldn't I just create another account afterwards?
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Shouldn't we call it a wish thread? There is less than zero chance that Bird trades George short of a package no one will offer. Just lock it.
Why lock the thread? Besides Paul George future with the Pacers up in the air right now.
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Shouldn't we call it a wish thread? There is less than zero chance that Bird trades George short of a package no one will offer. Just lock it.
Why lock the thread? Besides Paul George future with the Pacers up in the air right now.
It's actually not at all. Fans of other teams just wish it could be.
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Shouldn't we call it a wish thread? There is less than zero chance that Bird trades George short of a package no one will offer. Just lock it.
Why lock the thread? Besides Paul George future with the Pacers up in the air right now.
It's actually not at all. Fans of other teams just wish it could be.
George is not committed to staying long term with the Pacers compared to Cousins who reportedly plans on signing an extension. It could change later, but right now the George's future is up in the air.
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@jpotter is like a legitimate source now. If he reported something in contradiction to Woj, I'd take our guy's word for it.
Time for a serious hypothetical, phantom. Bird calls your cell phone and leaves the following voicemail: "Phantom, my dude! Listen, I'll call Danny and send over PG for your proposed package, if you agree to never post on Celticsblog again. I love your work there, but you're hurting my guys' trade values."
What do you do? The right answer will earn you a lot of TPs, so choose wisely...
I mean.. couldn't I just create another account afterwards?
No, you'd be monitored like the the Russians on the eastern seaboard...
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Shouldn't we call it a wish thread? There is less than zero chance that Bird trades George short of a package no one will offer. Just lock it.
Why lock the thread? Besides Paul George future with the Pacers up in the air right now.
It's actually not at all. Fans of other teams just wish it could be.
George is not committed to staying long term with the Pacers compared to Cousins who reportedly plans on signing an extension. It could change later, but right now the George's future is up in the air.
Thanks for the update.
Might I suggest a new handle?
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Shouldn't we call it a wish thread? There is less than zero chance that Bird trades George short of a package no one will offer. Just lock it.
Why lock the thread? Besides Paul George future with the Pacers up in the air right now.
It's actually not at all. Fans of other teams just wish it could be.
George is not committed to staying long term with the Pacers compared to Cousins who reportedly plans on signing an extension. It could change later, but right now the George's future is up in the air.
Thanks for the update.
Might I suggest a new handle?
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No chance in hell Larry trades George to Danny.
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Shouldn't we call it a wish thread? There is less than zero chance that Bird trades George short of a package no one will offer. Just lock it.
Why lock the thread? Besides Paul George future with the Pacers up in the air right now.
It's actually not at all. Fans of other teams just wish it could be.
This.
Mike (I really am Mike.)
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Shouldn't we call it a wish thread? There is less than zero chance that Bird trades George short of a package no one will offer. Just lock it.
Why lock the thread? Besides Paul George future with the Pacers up in the air right now.
It's actually not at all. Fans of other teams just wish it could be.
This.
Mike (I really am Mike.)
So if the Pacers frustrate in the second half of the season and have an early playoff exit, PG13 will definitely still stay with Indiana? I doubt it.
But maybe it is just me wishing that.
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Interesting read by Greg Doyel of the Indy Star. Nothing particularly new but....
http://www.indystar.com/story/sports/columnists/gregg-doyel/2017/02/20/doyel-clock-ticking-paul-georges-time-pacers/98131762/
The timer is set to the summer of 2018, when Paul George can leave the Pacers as a free agent. And during All-Star Weekend in New Orleans, George came clean and basically said the words out loud: He just might do it.
Paul George is watching. The clock is ticking. Larry Bird has a decision to make, and to understand his thought process, understand this: Bird publicly has said the 20-year-old Turner could be "maybe the best" player in franchise history, and privately he believes Turner (15.6 points, 7.2 rebounds, 2.1 blocks) can be the foundation of an NBA championship team, even if George leaves.
That's the future, but in some ways the future is now. The trade deadline is Thursday. Even if Bird wants to do something, what can he offer of value beyond Teague’s expiring contract or a 2017 first-round pick in the late teens?
What I find more interesting, however, is the attitude of pacer fans to George. If you visit chicago boards, you'll find almost all their fans hover between opposed and strongly opposed to moving Butler...but not indy fans:
I kinda want to see him gone half the time he does not play hard and complains a lot he does not act like a star
Since 2010 its been a win/win for both. Now George wants to win a ring, and that ain't happening in Indy.
Hopefully. Pacers don't need a guy as selfish as he is. Get all you can for him in a trade.
Larry should consider traded him to the Celtics and get those nets picks
Something is happening here...
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So, something tells me tonight was the second to last game for Paul George at Indiana.
Although Boston losing this Chicago series certainly isn't ideal...
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I love George. Dude shows up for the playoffs can score everywhere, guard 4 positions, hes pretty young etc etc. but if we lose to Chicago I will not be confident that we can keep him here past next year.
If we trade for George we would have to find a way to add serious big man help.
Now, if the team can show up over the next week, Ill be more inclined.
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I love George. Dude shows up for the playoffs can score everywhere, guard 4 positions, hes pretty young etc etc. but if we lose to Chicago I will not be confident that we can keep him here past next year.
If we trade for George we would have to find a way to add serious big man help.
Now, if the team can show up over the next week, Ill be more inclined.
Yeah no way Ainge pays a premium for George without a long term commitment.
He probably wouldn't agree to it either.
Ideally if we could add PG13 + Griffin + Zizic, that would be sweet.
But I think another trade would be made OR hopefully a veteran big man or two signs here cheap... idk honestly..
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I love George. Dude shows up for the playoffs can score everywhere, guard 4 positions, hes pretty young etc etc. but if we lose to Chicago I will not be confident that we can keep him here past next year.
If we trade for George we would have to find a way to add serious big man help.
Now, if the team can show up over the next week, Ill be more inclined.
Yeah no way Ainge pays a premium for George without a long term commitment.
He probably wouldn't agree to it either.
Ideally if we could add PG13 + Griffin + Zizic, that would be sweet.
But I think another trade would be made OR hopefully a veteran big man or two signs here cheap... idk honestly..
unless we pull our head out of our asses and get to the conference finals, George wont agree to an extension.
Id gamble on it, and pull the trigger, but as you say wed need a tough big man. I cant think of any off the top of my head.
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Im curious as to why George wants to sign in LA if that's true. They are a dumpster fire and if they lose their pick this year and in 2019 they are going to be completely wrecked as a franchise.
I'd revisit trading for him this offseason if our pick lands top 2. Bradley or Smart + Crowder and the pick is what id offer if he agrees to sign.
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Today could be George's last game of his career WITH INDIANA.
But my biggest fear is the Lakers get PG13 for "dirt cheap" this summer, considering he would love to play for the Lakers and I'm sure Bird would trade him for "something" than lose him for absolutely nothing.
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Today could be George's last game of his career WITH INDIANA.
But my biggest fear is the Lakers get PG13 for "dirt cheap" this summer, considering he would love to play for the Lakers and I'm sure Bird would trade him for "something" than lose him for absolutely nothing.
Really dont see it happening. George wont sign an extension with a Edited. Profanity and masked profanity are against forum rules and may result in discipline.ty team like LA even if he loves the Lakers and it is way to big a risk to trade their young assets for Paul George who could turn around and walk. a
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Today could be George's last game of his career WITH INDIANA.
But my biggest fear is the Lakers get PG13 for "dirt cheap" this summer, considering he would love to play for the Lakers and I'm sure Bird would trade him for "something" than lose him for absolutely nothing.
Really dont see it happening. George wont sign an extension with a ****ty team like LA even if he loves the Lakers and it is way to big a risk to trade their young assets for Paul George who could turn around and walk. a
Yeah, but with Magic Johnson at the helm and if they get to keep their Top-3 pick, it might entice him a bit more.
But PG13 has called out his teammates in the playoffs, so I'm sure he'll call out almost everyone on the Lakers for being trash night in and night out :laugh:
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I'm sure why the argument of "Don't get him he will leave for nothing next year".
I mean, if he does, then you get your cap space back for another star. And before he does well you have him in your team.Yes you might lose assets. But you have to see what the deal is first. As we saw here, all of our players are not made for playoffs anyway.
In the case of a BKN pick well, sometimes you gotta take a risk. If we keep the picks and they end up badly (Bust, Injury...), we might also have regrets, maybe bigger ones.
I don't know tho, just asking opinions
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Yeah, but with Magic Johnson at the helm and if they get to keep their Top-3 pick, it might entice him a bit more.
I think Magic was a great player but a poor coach, Since, Coaching is more similar to GMing, I think that this means that he won't be as good as a GM as your giving him credit.
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Yeah, but with Magic Johnson at the helm and if they get to keep their Top-3 pick, it might entice him a bit more.
I think Magic was a great player but a poor coach, Since, Coaching is more similar to GMing, I think that this means that he won't be as good as a GM as your giving him credit.
Even I think Magic will be overrated as a GM. But obviously lots of guys in the league (players) respect Magic, and that could mean something.
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You want be watching much of Paul George for another 6 months after today... Looks like a sweep.
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George has carried this team all series, but unfortunately I think he's packed it in today as well.
4/17 shooting (23.5%), just 12 points and 6 rebounds.
He's played tremendous defense for much of the game, but it's the same thing where not many other guys are stepping up.
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You want be watching much of Paul George for another 6 months after today... Looks like a sweep.
Yep, though now it's down to a 6 point game. PG13 needs to go rogue ASAP, or it's a sweep.
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Paul George can take his playoff futility to the Lakers.
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Bleak day in Indy for their fans .
Losing the series and maybe George too .
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Can we lock this thread now, since George has gone fishing? By the way, what happened to the DeMarcus Cousins watch thread?
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LOCK--?
This is just getting started.
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Can we lock this thread now, since George has gone fishing? By the way, what happened to the DeMarcus Cousins watch thread?
Idk about the Cousins one, but what do you mean lock this thread because he's gone fishing?
Isn't that the point? As @86MaxwellSmart said, it's just getting started.
The Paul George watch THIS SUMMER.
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Yeah I think this one needs to stay open, the real story is if anything happens this summer with him. He might not be able to take down the cavs by himself but he doesn't have to if he comes to Boston.
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https://youtu.be/yolq6iMeOdA
Yeah...this cat is flying the coop... :o
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Can we lock this thread now, since George has gone fishing? By the way, what happened to the DeMarcus Cousins watch thread?
I don't understand why people like to shut down free speech around here, same with the Cavaliers thread, someone tried to have it locked also.
That kind of attitude is why I hardly post here.
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Can we lock this thread now, since George has gone fishing? By the way, what happened to the DeMarcus Cousins watch thread?
I don't understand why people like to shut down free speech around here, same with the Cavaliers thread, someone tried to have it locked also.
That kind of attitude is why I hardly post here.
You champion free speech, yet you seem so riled by my attempt at a joke after George was eliminated. This is really hypocrisy at its height.
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What do you guys think?
http://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/nba-trade-rumors-paul-george-told-ex-pacers-teammates-he-wants-to-join-lakers/
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What do you guys think?
http://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/nba-trade-rumors-paul-george-told-ex-pacers-teammates-he-wants-to-join-lakers/
Well he was always open about it...
He loves LA and there is a 60% chance he is traded for the fakers if the lakers gives up most of their younglings and be left with PG and a bunch of scrubs...well IDK if he will like to dwell with a 30 win team like that.
Or wait out the yr and join the Fakers as a FA wheere he can be signed outright without mortgaging the future which is the best option for the Fakers....i mean they ain't winning in 2018 anyway so just wait things out.
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What do you guys think?
http://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/nba-trade-rumors-paul-george-told-ex-pacers-teammates-he-wants-to-join-lakers/
Don't buy it. Maybe if they make some other moves first but he is a competitor and we will be option #1.
Other option is Chicago where he could join Butler but I think we are certainly option numero uno.
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What do you guys think?
http://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/nba-trade-rumors-paul-george-told-ex-pacers-teammates-he-wants-to-join-lakers/
It pains me that he loves LA rather than Boston. But hey... Everyone makes mistakes :D
IT was a Lakers fan and Paul Pierce came from LA i guess.
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I wasn't that high on PG 1 until I realized how much of a offensive fire power he is, in this playoff series against the Cavs.
Yes, he was basically going toe to toe with Lebron, in his Miami days, but he somehow had a DPOY-Like Hibbert, a swiss army knife verison of Stephenson, and Granger by his side to be his mentor and emotional support.
This guy can really score.
Unfortunately he's still immature, and has shown time and time again that he just isn't built to be a vocal leader. But there's nothing wrong with that. Most people cannot lead their teams, which is why Boston alongside Isaiah Thomas, and Horford makes sense in terms of being able to be the leaders, and help PG13 shine.
I'm not even concerned about the Lakers part.
How many players have said that? LMA said that Lakers was one of his preference, until he blew them off. Howard was dead set on re-signing with the Lakers originally, then opted out.
I mean if you think about how many players were linked to signing with the Lakers, the Lakers would've had one of the most stacked lineups in NBA history. :angel:
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That being said, the trade I'm a little hesistant on... I would need a 100% handshake guarantee before I put any picks like the Nets on board...
George is better than AB and Crowder combined respectively in my opinion.
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I wasn't that high on PG 1 until I realized how much of a offensive fire power he is, in this playoff series against the Cavs.
Yes, he was basically going toe to toe with Lebron, in his Miami days, but he somehow had a DPOY-Like Hibbert, a swiss army knife verison of Stephenson, and Granger by his side to be his mentor and emotional support.
This guy can really score.
Unfortunately he's still immature, and has shown time and time again that he just isn't built to be a vocal leader. But there's nothing wrong with that. Most people cannot lead their teams, which is why Boston alongside Isaiah Thomas, and Horford makes sense in terms of being able to be the leaders, and help PG13 shine.
I'm not even concerned about the Lakers part.
How many players have said that? LMA said that Lakers was one of his preference, until he blew them off. Howard was dead set on re-signing with the Lakers originally, then opted out.
I mean if you think about how many players were linked to signing with the Lakers, the Lakers would've had one of the most stacked lineups in NBA history. :angel:
-Gasol- -Howard-
-Bryant- -Artest-
-Nash-
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I wasn't that high on PG 1 until I realized how much of a offensive fire power he is, in this playoff series against the Cavs.
Yes, he was basically going toe to toe with Lebron, in his Miami days, but he somehow had a DPOY-Like Hibbert, a swiss army knife verison of Stephenson, and Granger by his side to be his mentor and emotional support.
This guy can really score.
Unfortunately he's still immature, and has shown time and time again that he just isn't built to be a vocal leader. But there's nothing wrong with that. Most people cannot lead their teams, which is why Boston alongside Isaiah Thomas, and Horford makes sense in terms of being able to be the leaders, and help PG13 shine.
I'm not even concerned about the Lakers part.
How many players have said that? LMA said that Lakers was one of his preference, until he blew them off. Howard was dead set on re-signing with the Lakers originally, then opted out.
I mean if you think about how many players were linked to signing with the Lakers, the Lakers would've had one of the most stacked lineups in NBA history. :angel:
-Gasol- -Howard-
-Bryant- -Artest-
-Nash-
He said "stacked lineup," not "first-round fodder"
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I wasn't that high on PG 1 until I realized how much of a offensive fire power he is, in this playoff series against the Cavs.
Yes, he was basically going toe to toe with Lebron, in his Miami days, but he somehow had a DPOY-Like Hibbert, a swiss army knife verison of Stephenson, and Granger by his side to be his mentor and emotional support.
This guy can really score.
Unfortunately he's still immature, and has shown time and time again that he just isn't built to be a vocal leader. But there's nothing wrong with that. Most people cannot lead their teams, which is why Boston alongside Isaiah Thomas, and Horford makes sense in terms of being able to be the leaders, and help PG13 shine.
I'm not even concerned about the Lakers part.
How many players have said that? LMA said that Lakers was one of his preference, until he blew them off. Howard was dead set on re-signing with the Lakers originally, then opted out.
I mean if you think about how many players were linked to signing with the Lakers, the Lakers would've had one of the most stacked lineups in NBA history. :angel:
-Gasol- -Howard-
-Bryant- -Artest-
-Nash-
I remember one of my ex close friends was telling me the championship was set in stone when they got an aging Nash, and a malcontent Howard who forced his way out of a good situation, and I just rolled my eyes. (Especially after I saw what they gave up, and what their entire roster looked like.) ;D ;D ;D
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I mean, Paul George can go to the Lakers.
Then spend a few years with mediocre records.
Then even when they get good enough to make the playoffs, will get spanked by the likes of Golden State, San Antonio, Houston, etc.
West is much harder to navigate than the East, especially with Lebron aging. I mean, if PG13 joined one of TOR, WAS, BOS, I think they give Cleveland fits in a playoff series. That's how Lebron had trouble between 2008-2010 when BOS put together a great team.
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You can say goodbye to the Paul George saga because he's going to the Lakers.
http://www.sportingnews.com/nba/news/paul-george-nba-trade-rumors-contract-lakers-news-pacers-magic-johnson/zvl28kvs3msi17p0sd5eot406
"A SoCal native, he’s been talking about playing for his hometown team, the Lakers, for a long time. He’s never made his long-term intentions a secret within the Pacers’ locker room, according to former teammates. He wants to wear the purple and gold."
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You can say goodbye to the Paul George saga because he's going to the Lakers.
http://www.sportingnews.com/nba/news/paul-george-nba-trade-rumors-contract-lakers-news-pacers-magic-johnson/zvl28kvs3msi17p0sd5eot406
"A SoCal native, he’s been talking about playing for his hometown team, the Lakers, for a long time. He’s never made his long-term intentions a secret within the Pacers’ locker room, according to former teammates. He wants to wear the purple and gold."
Do you really believe that?
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Good, I wouldn't want him here anyway. We need good character guys, no more Marcus Smarts/ Ron Artests.
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You can say goodbye to the Paul George saga because he's going to the Lakers.
http://www.sportingnews.com/nba/news/paul-george-nba-trade-rumors-contract-lakers-news-pacers-magic-johnson/zvl28kvs3msi17p0sd5eot406
"A SoCal native, he’s been talking about playing for his hometown team, the Lakers, for a long time. He’s never made his long-term intentions a secret within the Pacers’ locker room, according to former teammates. He wants to wear the purple and gold."
Same thing was said about Derozan, Love, Aldridge, etc., until it didn't happen.
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Good, I wouldn't want him here anyway. We need good character guys, no more Marcus Smarts/ Ron Artests.
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Just so the "Paul George watch" is on time :)
http://reiter.radio.cbssports.com/2017/04/25/danny-granger-cant-fault-paul-george-if-he-leaves-indiana/ (http://reiter.radio.cbssports.com/2017/04/25/danny-granger-cant-fault-paul-george-if-he-leaves-indiana/)
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If he wanted to go to LA why not pick the Clippers instead?
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If he wanted to go to LA why not pick the Clippers instead?
That's a good point
Then again, he probably grew up hating Sterling and the team
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Good, I wouldn't want him here anyway. We need good character guys, no more Marcus Smarts/ Ron Artests.
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Let's see... He flips off the fans, vandalizes rookies cars, bullies rookies on the team, starts fights with members of teams, etc etc
Does this not sound like Ron Artest? Reminiscent of Carl Everett too....
For the life of me, I will never understand the love affair Celtics Nation has with this guy. I think he's a really bad apple.
The day Danny trades him away for peanuts is gonna be a good day for the Shamrock.
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Good, I wouldn't want him here anyway. We need good character guys, no more Marcus Smarts/ Ron Artests.
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Let's see... He flips off the fans, vandalizes rookies cars, bullies rookies on the team, starts fights with members of teams, etc etc
Does this not sound like Ron Artest? [/b] Reminiscent of Carl Everett too....
For the life of me, I will never understand the love affair Celtics Nation has with this guy. I think he's a really bad apple.
The day Danny trades him away for peanuts is gonna be a good day for the Shamrock.
Draymond Green, KG, Bird, Rodman, and Jordan for example all did similar things like that.
And yet teams want them?
As for the bolded part about Smart reminding you of Artest.
I don't know... Ask James Harden how he feels about that...
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Good, I wouldn't want him here anyway. We need good character guys, no more Marcus Smarts/ Ron Artests.
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Let's see... He flips off the fans, vandalizes rookies cars, bullies rookies on the team, starts fights with members of teams, etc etc
Does this not sound like Ron Artest? Reminiscent of Carl Everett too....
For the life of me, I will never understand the love affair Celtics Nation has with this guy. I think he's a really bad apple.
The day Danny trades him away for peanuts is gonna be a good day for the Shamrock.
Lol it's hilarious how far you're reaching here. You clearly have no axe to grind at all.
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Good, I wouldn't want him here anyway. We need good character guys, no more Marcus Smarts/ Ron Artests.
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Let's see... He flips off the fans, vandalizes rookies cars, bullies rookies on the team, starts fights with members of teams, etc etc
Does this not sound like Ron Artest? Reminiscent of Carl Everett too....
For the life of me, I will never understand the love affair Celtics Nation has with this guy. I think he's a really bad apple.
The day Danny trades him away for peanuts is gonna be a good day for the Shamrock.
I can't believe I come on here, and the first thing I read is this.. ::)
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I wonder, if this team had Paul George right now with this current team (yes, it's a completely hypothetical scenario), could this team be legitimate contenders?
PG13 can shoot 3s at a fairly decent rate, but is also a Top-5 two-way player in the league, can score very well, and can even take over playoff games at times. I think BOS are a much deeper team than Indiana.
It's just a shame he's likely going LAL and/or not likely to agree to a long term commitment if he did come to Boston.
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Good, I wouldn't want him here anyway. We need good character guys, no more Marcus Smarts/ Ron Artests.
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Let's see... He flips off the fans, vandalizes rookies cars, bullies rookies on the team, starts fights with members of teams, etc etc
Does this not sound like Ron Artest? Reminiscent of Carl Everett too....
For the life of me, I will never understand the love affair Celtics Nation has with this guy. I think he's a really bad apple.
The day Danny trades him away for peanuts is gonna be a good day for the Shamrock.
Lol it's hilarious how far you're reaching here. You clearly have no axe to grind at all.
Wow you should be thankful the heart and soul he puts out there every game not bash him you're clueless
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I dont buy the PG/L.A. thing at all.
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I dont buy the PG/L.A. thing at all.
I think it's all smoke but it doesn't change the fact that for PG13 to come to Boston at all, he'd have to agree to a long term commitment, which I truthfully doubt happens. Then the Lakers may use their cap space to get him in 2018 FA. Unless another team trades for him this summer (I doubt the Lakers will want to give up a ton for him this summer either if he's an expiring).
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I honestly can't remember the last big time free agent to sign with the Lakers besides Shaq, which was 20 years ago now.
When George does become a free agent, will Bird be willing to be a part of a sign-and-trade with the Lakers, to help make that team relevant again? And if Bird won't agree to a sign-and-trade to the Lakers, will George be willing to leave all of that money on the table and still go there?
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http://www.indycornrows.com/2017/4/26/15435998/early-trends-from-all-nba-ballots-dont-favor-paul-george
Pretty interesting read. Looks like Paul George could end up not getting a ton of $$$ from Indiana if not selected, and that could lead to a likelier chance of a trade or him just leaving Indiana outright after next season. Not being selected could cost him $70M extra that he could have gotten from IND if he was selected.
Again, these are just trends/quick analysis so far.
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http://www.indycornrows.com/2017/4/26/15435998/early-trends-from-all-nba-ballots-dont-favor-paul-george
Pretty interesting read. Looks like Paul George could end up not getting a ton of $$$ from Indiana if not selected, and that could lead to a likelier chance of a trade or him just leaving Indiana outright after next season. Not being selected could cost him $70M extra that he could have gotten from IND if he was selected.
Again, these are just trends/quick analysis so far.
Well, Bird made a mistake in the first place when he said he was open to discussions. He lowered Paul value a tiny bit. On the other end, everyone who watched the series against the Cavs knows what George is worth...
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I dont buy the PG/L.A. thing at all.
Has he ever said anything on the record about LA? I still haven't seen anything.
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I dont buy the PG/L.A. thing at all.
Has he ever said anything on the record about LA? I still haven't seen anything.
I think he did. You've got this quote in a recent article :
A SoCal native, he’s (George) been talking about playing for his hometown team, the Lakers, for a long time. He’s never made his long-term intentions a secret within the Pacers’ locker room, according to former teammates. He wants to wear the purple and gold.
Source : http://www.silverscreenandroll.com/2017/4/24/15411986/la-lakers-trade-rumors-paul-george-wants-to-wear-purple-and-gold (http://www.silverscreenandroll.com/2017/4/24/15411986/la-lakers-trade-rumors-paul-george-wants-to-wear-purple-and-gold)
That's what I found without digging deep. This could very well be an idea/rumor that comes from nowhere cause there is no actual quote from George, but I think he loves the Lakers, and he might have said somewhere he considered it. I'll keep searching such a quote. I think it exists.
EDIT : All I find is posts like "Per rumors and his teammates, George openly says he wants to play there blablabla".
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I dont buy the PG/L.A. thing at all.
Has he ever said anything on the record about LA? I still haven't seen anything.
I think he did. You've got this quote in a recent article :
A SoCal native, he’s (George) been talking about playing for his hometown team, the Lakers, for a long time. He’s never made his long-term intentions a secret within the Pacers’ locker room, according to former teammates. He wants to wear the purple and gold.
Source : http://www.silverscreenandroll.com/2017/4/24/15411986/la-lakers-trade-rumors-paul-george-wants-to-wear-purple-and-gold (http://www.silverscreenandroll.com/2017/4/24/15411986/la-lakers-trade-rumors-paul-george-wants-to-wear-purple-and-gold)
That's what I found without digging deep. This could very well be an idea/rumor that comes from nowhere cause there is no actual quote from George, but I think he loves the Lakers, and he might have said somewhere he considered it. I'll keep searching such a quote. I think it exists.
Yeah, that's the only thing I've been able to find as well. Nothing from George directly. I'll take any other reporting as rumor.
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Larry bird stepping down as president. Will they blow up the team now
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Larry bird stepping down as president. Will they blow up the team now
I think they have no choice unless they somehow can add another star (doubtful).
Even if they don't want to, Paul George could force them to.
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Paul George's "laker love" is massively overblown. He grew up more of a Clippers fan. Also, it seems like his priority is to win, something LA won't being doing much of in the near future - even if they somehow got George.
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Paul George's "laker love" is massively overblown. He grew up more of a Clippers fan. Also, it seems like his priority is to win, something LA won't being doing much of in the near future - even if they somehow got George.
Well maybe the Clippers could be a threat then too? :P
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George wants to win, that's why he doesn't want to be in Indiana anymore. Hard to see him with lakers if he wants to win
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I hate the Heat , but he is a perfect fit .
They would right up in the top four east conference teams.
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I hate the Heat , but he is a perfect fit .
They would right up in the top four east conference teams.
I know Miami was the hottest team the 2nd half of the season, but adding Paul George to that mix just reminds me of the Pacers team of a few years ago when they couldn't get over the hump.
Dragic = George Hill
Hibbert = Whiteside
Any of Miami's wing's = Lance Stephenson.
I don't think Miami is a true threat in the east with him. Better than this year certainly, but not so sure a threat in the East.
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Paul George's "laker love" is massively overblown. 0He grew up more of a Clippers fan. Also, it seems like his priority is to win, something LA won't being doing much of in the near future - even if they somehow got George.
Maybe that should be the red flag. ;)
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http://www.indycornrows.com/2017/4/26/15435998/early-trends-from-all-nba-ballots-dont-favor-paul-george
Pretty interesting read. Looks like Paul George could end up not getting a ton of $$$ from Indiana if not selected, and that could lead to a likelier chance of a trade or him just leaving Indiana outright after next season. Not being selected could cost him $70M extra that he could have gotten from IND if he was selected.
Again, these are just trends/quick analysis so far.
Well, Bird made a mistake in the first place when he said he was open to discussions. He lowered Paul value a tiny bit. On the other end, everyone who watched the series against the Cavs knows what George is worth...
I don't buy the idea that acknowledging you'd take calls on someone lowers their value somehow. Generally speaking, NBA GMs are smart guys that are plugged into backroom channels, they know exactly who's unhappy and, like anyone with access to the internet, they know whos going into the last year of their contracts. It's like the Philly fans that thought Colangelo somehow let the cat out of the bag when he acknowledged that having four single-position players at the same position wasn't sustainable - how was that ever a secret?
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Hey, Paul George, you see that?
You can be a part of this, AND take us even further! Fill most of our remaining needs/weaknesses too.
Won't get this chance at La La Land for a LONG TIME.
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Appeared on the Jimmy Kimmel show last night. Obviously talked Lakers... :P
He plans on working out with Kobe, but also says that "he loves Indy".
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Appeared on the Jimmy Kimmel show last night. Obviously talked Lakers... :P
He plans on working out with Kobe, but also says that "he loves Indy".
Maybe when he goes to work out with Kobe, he'll run into Isaiah.
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Appeared on the Jimmy Kimmel show last night. Obviously talked Lakers... :P
He plans on working out with Kobe, but also says that "he loves Indy".
Maybe when he goes to work out with Kobe, he'll run into Isaiah.
Maybe we should send Brad Stevens as well to "monitor" their workouts :laugh:
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Paul George at the 4 is like the perfect player for our team, but he doesn't want to play PF and doesn't seem like he'd be super loyal to us. It's tough but I think he'd have pretty much the biggest impact of any of the realistic targets for us, as long as we aren't giving away any starters, Smart, KO, Brown, Zizic or BK 17. I don't know if BK 18, Yabu and Rozier with some kind of salary magic is enough though.
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Nate Taylor: Paul George: “I’m a Pacer. There’s no way around that. This is my team, my group & this is where I’m at.” – via Twitter ByNateTaylor
Nate Taylor: Paul George on trade rumors about him: “They’re all crazy, but they’re all expected.” – via Twitter ByNateTaylor
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Nate Taylor: Paul George: “I’m a Pacer. There’s no way around that. This is my team, my group & this is where I’m at.” – via Twitter ByNateTaylor
Nate Taylor: Paul George on trade rumors about him: “They’re all crazy, but they’re all expected.” – via Twitter ByNateTaylor
He's staying another year.
Lakers aren't trading assets when they could just sign him outright NEXT summer.
And Cavaliers don't have anything else besides Love to trade for him, and IND would want back some good picks (1st rounders at least) and a solid young piece or two.
Maybe a 3-team deal but idk if teams feel the incentive to help CLE like that, and there aren't too many teams with valuable assets like multiple first rounders they'd probably be willing to give up for K. Love. And the teams that do also have some cap issues (Blazers for example, I believe).
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https://twitter.com/ZachLowe_NBA/status/876612131680071680
Lets begin.
(My bad. Didn't realize this tweet was posted on the other thread already. Connection problems are really screwing with me now LOL)
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Something tells me the Lakers have decided they'll just wait for George in 2018 FA.
They probably feel confident no deal will happen between BOS-IND either. Lakers now don't have too many assets to acquire PG13 unless they are willing to trade Ingram, OR Clarkson+Randle.
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Something tells me the Lakers have decided they'll just wait for George in 2018 FA.
They probably feel confident no deal will happen between BOS-IND either. Lakers now don't have too many assets to acquire PG13 unless they are willing to trade Ingram, OR Clarkson+Randle.
Lakers really have an unproven coach .....he was just figure head for the great team West assembled and Kerr coached . He has not proven anything to me , he maybe Doc Rivers at best. So there is that . They fired Mitch who had GM experience out the wazoo in title years.
None of the Lakers other than Lopez has experienced playoffs . They only know losing . Ball has never played one mi ute of NBa basketball and is a kid .
why would George even choose to be by himself in a worse situation than Pacers .
I think all this speculation of Geoerge playing fr LA is based on Magic running his mouth about getting Lebron to play there . I think this is a bunch of COW PIES , Lebron is not going to LA to play with Clarkson and their garbage of Randle and skinny twig Ingram . He is better off in Cleveland with Irving and Love and Thompson . .....they could use a REAL coach th.
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Pfft Ainge just stay the course. I'm over the PG13 and FA mess. I don't think he's that much help as I and many people said before....WHOES GETTING THE REBOUNDS?? We keep suggesting gutting an entire roster that was freaking #1 on the dang east!! Why?? Just stay the course and we will be fine.
Summer league roster
Jackson
Brown
Nader
Taytum
Semi
That's entertaining to watch for summer league for me, kid about y'all. Next season we have a chance at another #1 pick and a #2 pick. You can flip those picks into WHATEVER YOU WANT. I mean even curry or Durant can become available for that. Hell we could even use the picks for goodness sake and haul out a PG and a Center. Like all the options are on the table, what's the point in rushing? Even the FA class is better for what we need. Just get our 7ft softy back for trade bait and run it how it is in my opinion.
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Refuse to get sucked into the blackhole of PG rumors until I see something legit
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So apparently, the C's have sent back an offer to the Pacers after their initial attempt at the biggest robbery known to mankind... :laugh:
https://twitter.com/CelticGreen2017/status/880620827464658944
Celtics Get: Paul George
Pacers Get: Jae Crowder, 2018 Lakers Pick, 2019 Clippers OR Grizzlies Pick, and CASH
Now I kind of think to make salaries all work, assuming we sign Hayward, we may also need to add another player to this (sorry, Bradley :'( ), and I think it's obvious at this point, IND would take back Grizzlies pick, not the "worthless Clippers one lol.
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http://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/report-paul-george-intrigued-by-idea-of-playing-with-gordon-hayward/
Boston is reportedly looking to add both Paul George and Gordon Hayward this offseason, and to the pleasure of Celtics fans, George finds the idea of playing with Utah's star free agent 'intriguing,' according to a report from ESPN.
George has informed Indiana he won't re-sign with the team when he hits the free agent market in 2018 and prefers to head to L.A. when the time comes. But a potential teaming of Hayward and George in Boston to go with a developing core of Isaiah Thomas, Al Horford, Avery Bradley, Jayson Tatum and Jaylen Brown could be enough to change the mind of the four-time All-Star.
Of course, a lot has to happen to pair that duo together. Hayward will hit the free-agent market on Saturday and he can sign with any franchise of his choosing. George, however, would need to be acquired via trade to make that happen this offseason. And although he's told Indiana he won't be back after next season, the Celtics claim his asking price is still steep at this juncture.
Whether it's current players or draft assets, Boston has plenty of pieces to potentially get a deal done. But parting ways with those assets and risking the chance of losing George to free agency next summer is a major factor that could play into the Celtics' approach in free agency and whether it trades for George this offseason.
Man, IDK with Paul George anymore. Does he:
A. Want To Sign With LAL In 2018 REGARDLESS WHATEVER HAPPENS.
B. Want To Sign With LAL In 2018 IF He Gets A "Sidekick" There.
C. Does He Really Want To Play With Hayward, And For Long Term?
D. Does He Want To Win?
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So apparently, the C's have sent back an offer to the Pacers after their initial attempt at the biggest robbery known to mankind... :laugh:
https://twitter.com/CelticGreen2017/status/880620827464658944
Celtics Get: Paul George
Pacers Get: Jae Crowder, 2018 Lakers Pick, 2019 Clippers OR Grizzlies Pick, and CASH
Now I kind of think to make salaries all work, assuming we sign Hayward, we may also need to add another player to this (sorry, Bradley :'( ), and I think it's obvious at this point, IND would take back Grizzlies pick, not the "worthless Clippers one lol.
That should get it done...
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So apparently, the C's have sent back an offer to the Pacers after their initial attempt at the biggest robbery known to mankind... :laugh:
https://twitter.com/CelticGreen2017/status/880620827464658944
Celtics Get: Paul George
Pacers Get: Jae Crowder, 2018 Lakers Pick, 2019 Clippers OR Grizzlies Pick, and CASH
Now I kind of think to make salaries all work, assuming we sign Hayward, we may also need to add another player to this (sorry, Bradley :'( ), and I think it's obvious at this point, IND would take back Grizzlies pick, not the "worthless Clippers one lol.
That should get it done...
It should, but it looks like Indiana is literally asking for the moon here.
First we have to see what happens with Hayward, too.
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Didn't know where to ask and didn't want to start a thread. Sorry if I missed an answer to this question posed by someone else.
I want to ask a question that I haven't seen (recently anyway). Why can't one of these players (Blake/Hayward) take less than max so we can build a better team? Why do we assume neither would be open to that? Why not go in saying that we have other things lined up (PG13) but we want to know if you will take less money so we can save on assets/players to add/keep for our roster?
I want to know why they can't take a 2yr deal and have the 2nd year a player option so they can opt out and then allow us to RAIN money on them w/ Bird Rights? Take less to boost the roster for just one season.
How much less would one of them have to take so we don't have to send more than 1 of AB/Crowder/Smart+ to Indy (out in a trade in general)?
I'm asking because I want us to keep AB, I love him. Hehe
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So apparently, the C's have sent back an offer to the Pacers after their initial attempt at the biggest robbery known to mankind... :laugh:
https://twitter.com/CelticGreen2017/status/880620827464658944
Celtics Get: Paul George
Pacers Get: Jae Crowder, 2018 Lakers Pick, 2019 Clippers OR Grizzlies Pick, and CASH
Now I kind of think to make salaries all work, assuming we sign Hayward, we may also need to add another player to this (sorry, Bradley :'( ), and I think it's obvious at this point, IND would take back Grizzlies pick, not the "worthless Clippers one lol.
uuhhhh dont we have to match contracts? or is that what CASH means?
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So apparently, the C's have sent back an offer to the Pacers after their initial attempt at the biggest robbery known to mankind... :laugh:
https://twitter.com/CelticGreen2017/status/880620827464658944
Celtics Get: Paul George
Pacers Get: Jae Crowder, 2018 Lakers Pick, 2019 Clippers OR Grizzlies Pick, and CASH
Now I kind of think to make salaries all work, assuming we sign Hayward, we may also need to add another player to this (sorry, Bradley :'( ), and I think it's obvious at this point, IND would take back Grizzlies pick, not the "worthless Clippers one lol.
uuhhhh dont we have to match contracts? or is that what CASH means?
We have to send Bradley out in a separate trade and receive no incoming salary, only future draft picks .
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Didn't know where to ask and didn't want to start a thread. Sorry if I missed an answer to this question posed by someone else.
I want to ask a question that I haven't seen (recently anyway). Why can't one of these players (Blake/Hayward) take less than max so we can build a better team? Why do we assume neither would be open to that? Why not go in saying that we have other things lined up (PG13) but we want to know if you will take less money so we can save on assets/players to add/keep for our roster?
I want to know why they can't take a 2yr deal and have the 2nd year a player option so they can opt out and then allow us to RAIN money on them w/ Bird Rights? Take less to boost the roster for just one season.
How much less would one of them have to take so we don't have to send more than 1 of AB/Crowder/Smart+ to Indy (out in a trade in general)?
I'm asking because I want us to keep AB, I love him. Hehe
I'm not sure exactly how much of a paycut they'd have to take, but it's an interesting thought. Plus, even if Hayward stayed in Utah, he likely would only get 3M more since he would opt out after like the 3rd year and go for another huge contract.
Plus, you already have Isaiah who could command max or close to max, and Smart will be due for a contract (which shouldn't be too hefty, but still a decent one).
I think this is something Ainge could discuss with them at meetings, but I'm curious if Ainge is willing (or allowed) to talk with George after July 1 about all this. Just to see where his head is at and how he'd feel if the C's landed Hayward.
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Didn't know where to ask and didn't want to start a thread. Sorry if I missed an answer to this question posed by someone else.
I want to ask a question that I haven't seen (recently anyway). Why can't one of these players (Blake/Hayward) take less than max so we can build a better team? Why do we assume neither would be open to that? Why not go in saying that we have other things lined up (PG13) but we want to know if you will take less money so we can save on assets/players to add/keep for our roster?
I want to know why they can't take a 2yr deal and have the 2nd year a player option so they can opt out and then allow us to RAIN money on them w/ Bird Rights? Take less to boost the roster for just one season.
How much less would one of them have to take so we don't have to send more than 1 of AB/Crowder/Smart+ to Indy (out in a trade in general)?
I'm asking because I want us to keep AB, I love him. Hehe
We won't have bird rights after one year, so we would need cap space to sign him, ala KD with GS this summer, which we won't have.
Bradley is simply part of the price that will likely have to be paid for Hayward/George.
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Didn't know where to ask and didn't want to start a thread. Sorry if I missed an answer to this question posed by someone else.
I want to ask a question that I haven't seen (recently anyway). Why can't one of these players (Blake/Hayward) take less than max so we can build a better team? Why do we assume neither would be open to that? Why not go in saying that we have other things lined up (PG13) but we want to know if you will take less money so we can save on assets/players to add/keep for our roster?
I want to know why they can't take a 2yr deal and have the 2nd year a player option so they can opt out and then allow us to RAIN money on them w/ Bird Rights? Take less to boost the roster for just one season.
How much less would one of them have to take so we don't have to send more than 1 of AB/Crowder/Smart+ to Indy (out in a trade in general)?
I'm asking because I want us to keep AB, I love him. Hehe
We won't have bird rights after one year, so we would need cap space to sign him, ala KD with GS this summer, which we won't have.
Bradley is simply part of the price that will likely have to be paid for Hayward/George.
Yeah plus it would be difficult for EVERYONE to get minutes (still have Brown, Tatum as well).
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Wizards want to trade Otto Porter and draft pick for Paul George? What is this even
http://www.slamonline.com/nba/wizards-otto-porter-sign-and-trade-paul-george/?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=referral#LUBoYFRwz1IhXpyb.97
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Wizards want to trade Otto Porter and draft pick for Paul George? What is this even
http://www.slamonline.com/nba/wizards-otto-porter-sign-and-trade-paul-george/?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=referral#LUBoYFRwz1IhXpyb.97
And yet they want us to give up Nets Pick, Lakers Pick and like 2 starters... ::)