CelticsStrong

Celtics Basketball => Game Threads => Topic started by: FLCeltsFan on February 15, 2017, 10:10:24 PM

Title: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: FLCeltsFan on February 15, 2017, 10:10:24 PM
(http://images.footballfanatics.com/FFImage/thumb.aspx?i=/productImages/_806000/ff_806589_xl.jpg) at (http://images.footballfanatics.com/FFImage/thumb.aspx?i=/productImages/_806000/ff_806588_xl.jpg)
Boston Celtics (37-19) at Chicago Bulls (27-29)
Thursday, February 16, 1917
8:00 PM ET
Game #57, Road Game #29
TV: TNT
Radio: 98.5 Sports Hub,  WLS AM 890
United Center

(http://hockey.ballparks.com/NHL/ChicagoBlackhawks/aerial.jpg)

Probable Starting Matchups 
Point Guard
(http://ak-static.cms.nba.com/wp-content/uploads/headshots/nba/latest/260x190/202738.png)  vs  (http://ak-static.cms.nba.com/wp-content/uploads/headshots/nba/latest/260x190/1626170.png)
Isaiah Thomas vs Jerian Grant

Shooting Guard 

(http://ak-static.cms.nba.com/wp-content/uploads/headshots/nba/latest/260x190/203935.png)  vs  (http://ak-static.cms.nba.com/wp-content/uploads/headshots/nba/latest/260x190/203487.png)
Marcus Smart vs Michael Carter-Williams 

Small Forward
(http://ak-static.cms.nba.com/wp-content/uploads/headshots/nba/latest/260x190/203109.png)  vs  (http://ak-static.cms.nba.com/wp-content/uploads/headshots/nba/latest/260x190/202710.png)
Jae Crowder  vs  Jimmy Butler

Power Forward
(http://ak-static.cms.nba.com/wp-content/uploads/headshots/nba/latest/260x190/201143.png)  vs  (http://ak-static.cms.nba.com/wp-content/uploads/headshots/nba/latest/260x190/201959.png)
Al Horford vs Taj Gibson

Center
(http://ak-static.cms.nba.com/wp-content/uploads/headshots/nba/latest/260x190/101161.png)  vs  (http://ak-static.cms.nba.com/wp-content/uploads/headshots/nba/latest/260x190/201577.png)
Amir Johnson vs Robin Lopez

(http://i.cdn.turner.com/nba/nba/assets/logos/teams/primary/web/BOS.svg) Reserves
Gerald Green
Demetrius Jackson
Jonas Jerebko
Jordan Mickey
Terry Rozier
James Young
Tyler Zeller
Kelly Olynyk

Injuries
Avery Bradley   (Achilles)  out
Jaylen Brown  (hip) out

Head Coach
Brad Stevens

(http://imgc.allpostersimages.com/images/P-473-488-90/76/7627/S4SF300Z/posters/chicago-bulls-united-center-2013.jpg)

(http://i.cdn.turner.com/nba/nba/assets/logos/teams/primary/web/CHI.svg) Reserves
Rajon Rondo
Isaiah Canaan
Michael Carter-Williams
Christiano Felicio
Doug McDermott
Bobby Portis
Denzel Valentine

Injuries
Dwyane Wade (wrist)  questionable
Nikola Mirotic  (back) questionable
Paul Zipser   (ankle)  out

Head Coach

Fred Hoiberg

Game Notes

The Celtics travel to Chicago to take on the Bulls for the 3rd of 4 meetings this season.  The Celtics won the series last season 2-1.  The series is 1-1 after the first two meetings.  The Celtics lost in Chicago 105-99 in the Bulls home opener and then won in Boston 107-100 two nights later. They will meet once more on March 12. 

The Celtics are playing in the second of back to back games and then will be off until after the All Star game.   Like last season, the Celtics seem to play very well in back to back games.  They are 9-3 on the second night of back to back games this season and 4-2 when the games are home/road. 

Rajon Rondo started in the first two games against the Celtics but he has hit a rough patch with his new team and has been coming off the bench for them, but is still playing well as a reserve.   We all have memories of National TV Rondo, who could make an appearance in this game, since it is on TNT.  The Celtics are 17-11 on the road while the Bulls are 16-11 at home.   

Avery Bradley (Achilles) and Jaylen Brown (hip) will miss this game.  Both are expected back after the All Star break.  Paul Zipzer (ankle) is out for the Bulls.  Dwyane Wade (wrist) and Nikola Mirotic (back) are both listed as questionable, although personally, I expect Wade to play because he really dislikes the Celtics. 

 
Key Matchups

(http://ak-static.cms.nba.com/wp-content/uploads/headshots/nba/latest/260x190/203109.png)  vs  (http://ak-static.cms.nba.com/wp-content/uploads/headshots/nba/latest/260x190/202710.png)
Jae Crowder  vs  Jimmy Butler
The Bulls resident star is Jimmy Butler.  There have been a lot of trade rumors swirling around him over the summer and again leading up to the trade deadline with many of them involving the Celtics.  He even spent soom time working out with Celtics rookie Jaylen Brown over the summer.  But for now,  Butler is the enemy and it will be up to Jae to keep him from having a big game.   Butler  is averaging 24.4 points, 6.3 rebounds, and 4.9 assists, and 1.9 steals per game. He averaged 23.5 points in the first two games vs the Celtics this season.
   
(http://ak-static.cms.nba.com/wp-content/uploads/headshots/nba/latest/260x190/201143.png)  vs  (http://ak-static.cms.nba.com/wp-content/uploads/headshots/nba/latest/260x190/201959.png)
Al Horford vs Taj Gibson
Taj Gibson is playing well for the Bulls, averaging 11.6 points, 6.9 rebounds, and 1.1 assists.  The Celtics especially need to keep him off the boards and away from the basket. 

Honorable Mention
Terry Rozier vs Rajon Rondo
Even if Rondo comes off the bench,  he will definitely want to get a win against his former team.  He always seemed to play his best when on national TV and so Rozier, or whoever is matched up against him will need to keep him from having a big game. 

Keys to the Game
Defense -  The Celtics have some very good defenders and could have one of the top defensive teams in the league, however, for much of the season they have not played very good defense.  Each player needs to make defense a priority and be sure to have each others' backs on team defense. The Bulls are 7th in the league, allowing just 102.8 points per game.  The Bulls will be playing tough defense and so the Celtics must match their defensive intensity. 

Rebound - The Celtics can't score if they don't have the ball.  Much of rebounding is effort and desire and so the Celtics must put out the extra effort on the boards to give themselves extra possessions as well as to limit the Bulls fast break opportunities and second chance points.  The Bulls are 2nd in rebounding with 46.4 per game and first with 12.8 offensive rebounds per game.     The Celtics have to give that extra effort to go after rebounds. 

Be Aggressive
- The Celtics must be aggressive on both ends of the court.  They have to be the more aggressive team going for loose balls, on defense, on the boards, and in going to the hoop.    They have to play like they want it more for 48 minutes. 

Take Care of the Ball
- The Celtics turned the ball over 22 times against the Sixers and they have to take better care of the ball in this one.  They have to focus on their passes and ball handling to keep the Bulls from getting fast break points off of Celtics turnovers. 

Be Smart on Offense
- The Celtics need to move the ball to find the open man for easier shots.  They have to take open shots when they get them and not be too unselfish.   The Bulls are 6th in the league in defending the 3point line and allow just 8.9 per game and so if their 3's aren't falling, they need to take the ball inside. 

X-Factors
Back to Back
The Celtics are playing in back to back games after a West coast road trip.  They have been very good on the second night of back to back games and hopefully they can continue that in this game.  Hopefully fatigue won't be a factor down the stretch. 

National TV Rondo
When Rondo played for the Celtics he always seemed to have another gear that he went to when the game was on national TV.   He has not been starting for the Bulls but still may  have that extra level he can take it to, especially against his former team. 

Officiating
Officiating will always be an x-factor.  Some crews call every little bit of contact that takes the flow out of the game.  Some crews let them play.  Some refs have an agenda against a team, a coach or a player.  All of these things can alter the way a game is played and the ability of a team to play well.
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: saltlover on February 15, 2017, 10:11:19 PM
First!

Let's finish out the string before the break!  Go Celtics, and thanks FLC for a great season of game threads!
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: esel1000 on February 15, 2017, 10:12:16 PM
First!

Thought I finally had it lol...
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: FLCeltsFan on February 15, 2017, 10:13:06 PM
TP to saltlover for being the first to post in the game thread!   


GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO Celtics!!   Let's go into the All Star break on a win streak!!! 
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: saltlover on February 15, 2017, 10:13:30 PM
First!

Thought I finally had it lol...

Haha, it's competive out here! TP for the hustle.
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: Bostoncelticsforlife7 on February 15, 2017, 10:14:39 PM
I'm so excited, the sixers game was CRAZZYYYYYY
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: jambr380 on February 15, 2017, 10:17:00 PM
I swear people are just hitting refresh every few seconds nowadays. Congrats SL, you already contribute so much to this community - well deserved  ;D

And of course a TP to FLC - great thread, as always!
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: tarheelsxxiii on February 15, 2017, 10:18:25 PM
6th!
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: Celts Fan 508 on February 15, 2017, 10:18:29 PM
Can't wait, great write up
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: trickybilly on February 15, 2017, 10:20:41 PM
Hope Wade is out. He always seems to get up for games against us.

GO C's!!
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: csfansince60s on February 15, 2017, 10:21:05 PM
Let's go Cs!!

Let's end a great stretch of games with a win!

We're in great shape for a win with a grueling back to back after a lone home game after a long road trip.

Dumb NBA schedulers, but we're good in back to backs.  Let's show'em.

Go Cs!
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: jdz101 on February 16, 2017, 04:42:46 AM
Blow em out and go into the break on a well-earned high.  :D
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: mr. dee on February 16, 2017, 05:52:30 AM
Do people even sleep on this board? LOL
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: apc on February 16, 2017, 06:27:03 AM
FL, you forgot Rondo  :).

Washington playing Pacers . Hopefully we put some distance between us.
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: hodgy03038 on February 16, 2017, 07:51:54 AM
Darn #14 today - usually #13. Go Celts! Let's go out strong!!
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: Surferdad on February 16, 2017, 08:32:44 AM
I swear people are just hitting refresh every few seconds nowadays. Congrats SL, you already contribute so much to this community - well deserved  ;D

And of course a TP to FLC - great thread, as always!
Based on message time-stamps, FlCelts put up this thread about 15 minutes after the Sixers game ended.  Maybe that's a hint as to when to look for a new game thread.   ;)
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: FLCeltsFan on February 16, 2017, 10:21:50 AM
FL, you forgot Rondo  :).

Washington playing Pacers . Hopefully we put some distance between us.

Got him there now.  I originally put him in the starters and then moved him back to the bench and forgot to put his name in there.  TP for catching it!   Thanks!
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: Phantom255x on February 16, 2017, 06:34:16 PM
So tonight begins IT and Brad's "recruitment of Butler"  ;)

Bulls game tonight, then the All Star Break/Game.
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: rondohondo on February 16, 2017, 06:39:53 PM
So tonight begins IT and Brad's "recruitment of Butler"  ;)

Bulls game tonight, then the All Star Break/Game.

Its gonna cost 1 of AB/Crowder plus nets 17 , I think I do it

AB, Zellar, brk 17 and a 2nd or 2

Still have amirs contract brk 18, bos18, clips and mem first rd picks to move for a legit center.
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: csfansince60s on February 16, 2017, 07:02:14 PM
Light on the wing tonight.

Green a late scratch to join AB and JB.
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: rondohondo on February 16, 2017, 07:09:49 PM
(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-pkBkKJUpCCs/VzyTrsQS5-I/AAAAAAAARa4/eyAptEuUlvAKTLxhUwHWTie67DDQEvydACLcB/s1600/isaiah.butler.jpg)
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: Ilikesports17 on February 16, 2017, 07:16:35 PM
Light on the wing tonight.

Green a late scratch to join AB and JB.
Another opportunity for Jimmy. Hes starting to pick up some momentum.

Edit: Jimmy here refers to James Young if that wasnt clear.
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: SHAQATTACK on February 16, 2017, 07:18:19 PM
I'm calling it

Butler goes for 44 points

Bull still come up short
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: LilRip on February 16, 2017, 07:30:55 PM
All eyes are on Jimmy but I'll be looking at Smart. Another good game with over 15 points and efficient shooting and that would make it 3 in a row and 4 of his last 5.
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: Chief on February 16, 2017, 07:45:54 PM
I'm calling it

Butler goes for 44 points

Bull still come up short

No one goes for 44 with Smart on them.
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: Ilikesports17 on February 16, 2017, 07:51:28 PM
I'm calling it

Butler goes for 44 points

Bull still come up short

No one goes for 44 with Smart on them.
Crowder(a good defender in his own right) will start on Butler.
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: mr. dee on February 16, 2017, 07:58:50 PM
They better win this one. Wizards is currently blowing out the Pacers.
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: kraidstar on February 16, 2017, 07:59:49 PM
Good god, that "music" by Travis Scott on TNT's pregame show was awful.

Not to mention half the performance was muted out because he kept dropping F-bombs, at least one of which TNT completely missed.

What a hack.
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: jpotter33 on February 16, 2017, 08:05:35 PM
Man, this Bulls team is just all out of whack.
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: liam on February 16, 2017, 08:06:40 PM
Amir looking good early!
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: blink on February 16, 2017, 08:08:47 PM
Hoiberg picked the wrong team to coach for...
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: liam on February 16, 2017, 08:11:05 PM
Hoiberg picked the wrong team to coach for...

I thought the Bulls picked the wrong coach.
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: blink on February 16, 2017, 08:11:50 PM
Hoiberg picked the wrong team to coach for...

I thought the Bulls picked the wrong coach.

I kind of agree with that too.  Hoiberg would have been much better in Minn coaching a younger group of guys.
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: liam on February 16, 2017, 08:12:59 PM
Hoiberg picked the wrong team to coach for...

I thought the Bulls picked the wrong coach.

I kind of agree with that too.  Hoiberg would have been much better in Minn coaching a younger group of guys.

Yeah, or those Pelicans...
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: jpotter33 on February 16, 2017, 08:13:12 PM
Amir for MVP! lol
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: blink on February 16, 2017, 08:14:04 PM
Amir for MVP! lol

Amir is playing GREAT
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: liam on February 16, 2017, 08:15:44 PM
If they were giving away Lopez for a couple of 2nds or late 1st he'd be a good Celtic.
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: blink on February 16, 2017, 08:16:27 PM
This game is an Amir vs Lopez battle!
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: celticslove on February 16, 2017, 08:16:51 PM
crowder still on his brick streak
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: liam on February 16, 2017, 08:17:00 PM
This game is a Amir vs Lopez battle!

Battle of titians !
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: Phantom255x on February 16, 2017, 08:17:40 PM
So far so good.

They are missing Wade but we are missing Brown and Bradley so..
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: jpotter33 on February 16, 2017, 08:18:28 PM
Amir for MVP! lol

Amir is playing GREAT

A Chicago first round matchup would actually be an ideal matchup for this starting lineup with Amir and Al. Don't really need to worry about having Al chasing Gibson out too far on the perimeter.
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: RJ87 on February 16, 2017, 08:19:01 PM
If they were giving away Lopez for a couple of 2nds or late 1st he'd be a good Celtic.

He has 2 years left on his deal after this season. Seems like Danny doesnt want to add long term money to the books for a non-star.
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: jpotter33 on February 16, 2017, 08:19:27 PM
So far so good.

They are missing Wade but we are missing Brown and Bradley so..

I've always thought Wade was one of those bigger guard matchups that we always have a hard time with, especially with the undersized backcourt of IT and AB.
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: blink on February 16, 2017, 08:20:25 PM
Amir for MVP! lol

Amir is playing GREAT

A Chicago first round matchup would actually be an ideal matchup for this starting lineup with Amir and Al. Don't really need to worry about having Al chasing Gibson out too far on the perimeter.

Yeah, I don't think the Bulls scare the C's much over a 7 game series.  Unless Wade and Rondo time warp themselves back in time 5-6 years.
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: jpotter33 on February 16, 2017, 08:21:59 PM
It's cute that Rondo is actually putting in effort on defense tonight on a national tv game against his former team.

I'm so glad we don't have to deal with his wishy-washy arse anymore.
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: blink on February 16, 2017, 08:22:43 PM
If they were giving away Lopez for a couple of 2nds or late 1st he'd be a good Celtic.

I would agree with that.  He seems like a hustle guy that would help us.
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: liam on February 16, 2017, 08:23:31 PM
If they were giving away Lopez for a couple of 2nds or late 1st he'd be a good Celtic.

He has 2 years left on his deal after this season. Seems like Danny doesnt want to add long term money to the books for a non-star.

Yeah, and he's not any kind of large improvement, but would be nice.
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: Clench123 on February 16, 2017, 08:25:28 PM
It's cute that Rondo is actually putting in effort on defense tonight on a national tv game against his former team.

I'm so glad we don't have to deal with his wishy-washy arse anymore.

Yea that used to irk me
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: jpotter33 on February 16, 2017, 08:29:49 PM
Brad back to not staggering one of IT or Al with the bench.
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: positivitize on February 16, 2017, 08:34:11 PM
Just tuned in. How're we doing? How's Smart?
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: liam on February 16, 2017, 08:34:15 PM
Run, Run, Run!
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: jpotter33 on February 16, 2017, 08:34:20 PM
Need to keep pushing the ball off of stops and even made baskets. Clearly the Bulls can't effectively guard in transition and the fastbreak.
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: kraidstar on February 16, 2017, 08:34:20 PM
With the exception of Zeller, every Boston player on the floor in that last segment was drafted by the Celtics.

Pretty nice, good to see the kids playing well!
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: jpotter33 on February 16, 2017, 08:38:12 PM
Rozier making his case to be a central part of that fabled Jimmy Butler trade!
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: Celts Fan 508 on February 16, 2017, 08:38:53 PM
With the exception of Zeller, every Boston player on the floor in that last segment was drafted by the Celtics.

Pretty nice, good to see the kids playing well!

That's an awesome point, TP,
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: jpotter33 on February 16, 2017, 08:40:23 PM
Come on, KO, Portis is becoming your daddy at this point.
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: Chief on February 16, 2017, 08:41:06 PM
I still love Rondo.
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: jpotter33 on February 16, 2017, 08:42:11 PM
How dysfunctional is this Bulls team? Check out what Valentine and Canaan are doing on the bench while the game is being played lol ::)

https://twitter.com/iamvega1982/status/832398536708915200
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: Celts Fan 508 on February 16, 2017, 08:42:35 PM
Come on, KO, Portis is becoming your daddy at this point.

I keep going back and forth watching this game in my mind of who the better pick was between Rozier or Portis.
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: liam on February 16, 2017, 08:45:45 PM
Wow, letting up...
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: Chief on February 16, 2017, 08:46:16 PM
I love McHale.
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: liam on February 16, 2017, 08:49:12 PM
I love McHale.

He's the post low post player I've seen.
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: Phantom255x on February 16, 2017, 08:59:53 PM
Thoughts on Butler?

15 points, 5 assists, 2 rebounds.
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: SHAQATTACK on February 16, 2017, 09:01:12 PM
I love McHale.

More than the Chief ?
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: Chief on February 16, 2017, 09:02:17 PM
I love McHale.

More than the Chief ?

On commentary,  yes.
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: Rosco917 on February 16, 2017, 09:02:59 PM
I think Smart playing along side of IT allows Thomas to let the game more come to him.

Smart has better ball handling skills, and play making skills than Bradley. As good as a defender as Bradley is, Smart is bigger, and stronger. They pair well. Other than Bradley being a better scorer in general.
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: Chief on February 16, 2017, 09:03:12 PM
Thoughts on Butler?

15 points, 5 assists, 2 rebounds.

2018 Nets pick good. Probably. 
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: Phantom255x on February 16, 2017, 09:04:38 PM
Thoughts on Butler?

15 points, 5 assists, 2 rebounds.

2018 Nets pick good. Probably.

Yeah I mean it's clear he won't get us past CLE.

So why even trade the 2017 Nets Pick + a ton more just to get him...
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: SHAQATTACK on February 16, 2017, 09:04:38 PM
I still love Rondo.

Yeah I had the Rondo shirts .   I'll never forget the pain he played though for his team..
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: Chief on February 16, 2017, 09:05:49 PM
If you noticed an extra tp,  you can thank the chief!  :)
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: jpotter33 on February 16, 2017, 09:07:07 PM
I think Smart playing along side of IT allows Thomas to let the game more come to him.

Smart has better ball handling skills, and play making skills than Bradley. As good as a defender as Bradley is, Smart is bigger, and stronger. They pair well. Other than Bradley being a better scorer in general.

Yep. It's just a better overall fit with much more versatility. AB is too limited in his offense, and his size is a detriment when combined with IT.

It's another reason why I think trading for Butler to put at the 2 between IT and Jae would work extremely well.
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: SHAQATTACK on February 16, 2017, 09:07:11 PM
Thoughts on Butler?

15 points, 5 assists, 2 rebounds.

He is a good fit for CBS ....no question

He makes few mistakes and has the motor . 

He is clutch , and might STEAL this game for the Bulls
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: Celts Fan 508 on February 16, 2017, 09:07:19 PM
If you noticed an extra tp,  you can thank the chief!  :)

Right back at you
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: Phantom255x on February 16, 2017, 09:08:58 PM
Thoughts on Butler?

15 points, 5 assists, 2 rebounds.

He is a good fit for CBS ....no question

He makes few mistakes and has the motor . 

He is clutch , and might STEAL this game .

Yeah my gut tells me Butler is going to go OFF. Might end with 35-40 points.

Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: Chief on February 16, 2017, 09:09:09 PM
Thoughts on Butler?

15 points, 5 assists, 2 rebounds.

2018 Nets pick good. Probably.

Yeah I mean it's clear he won't get us past CLE.

So why even trade the 2017 Nets Pick + a ton more just to get him...

Yeah, you just can't give up the 2017 pick. But as long as you keep Smart, Jaylen, and 2017 pick, I think u are good to go.
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: Phantom255x on February 16, 2017, 09:11:11 PM
Thoughts on Butler?

15 points, 5 assists, 2 rebounds.

2018 Nets pick good. Probably.

Yeah I mean it's clear he won't get us past CLE.

So why even trade the 2017 Nets Pick + a ton more just to get him...

Yeah, you just can't give up the 2017 pick. But as long as you keep Smart, Jaylen, and 2017 pick, I think u are good to go.

I'd try again in the summer.

I mean, if they choose their direction (rebuilding), and all it really takes is 2017 Nets Pick, Bradley, Zeller, 2019 MEMPHIS OR CLIPPERS First Rounder, and another 1-2 "lower assets", that's fine.

If we plan on extending IT+Smart, then Bradley is the "odd man out" here.

But for now, yeah I'm not making the deal.
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: SHAQATTACK on February 16, 2017, 09:12:58 PM
Thoughts on Butler?

15 points, 5 assists, 2 rebounds.

2018 Nets pick good. Probably.

Yeah I mean it's clear he won't get us past CLE.

So why even trade the 2017 Nets Pick + a ton more just to get him...

Yeah, you just can't give up the 2017 pick. But as long as you keep Smart, Jaylen, and 2017 pick, I think u are good to go.

I'm on board with the above plan too.     This 2017 pick maybe epic for Boston
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: jpotter33 on February 16, 2017, 09:17:43 PM
So Crowder is having another one of his disappearing acts again, huh?
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: liam on February 16, 2017, 09:18:09 PM
So Crowder is having another one of his disappearing acts again, huh?

Got his hands full on defense...
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: Chief on February 16, 2017, 09:19:20 PM
So Crowder is having another one of his disappearing acts again, huh?

Got his hands full on defense...

He doesn't like these Butler trade talks.
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: liam on February 16, 2017, 09:20:26 PM
So Crowder is having another one of his disappearing acts again, huh?

Got his hands full on defense...

He doesn't like these Butler trade talks.

I thought Butler was his buddy.
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: Phantom255x on February 16, 2017, 09:21:04 PM
So Crowder is having another one of his disappearing acts again, huh?

Got his hands full on defense...

He doesn't like these Butler trade talks.

I thought Butler was his buddy.

Not this again lol.

Are we really going to gauge trade targets and FA targets based on how Crowder feels about them?  :laugh:
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: liam on February 16, 2017, 09:21:48 PM
Brad needs some shooters on the floor.
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: Clench123 on February 16, 2017, 09:22:22 PM
We are better than this
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: liam on February 16, 2017, 09:23:13 PM
The last game before the All Star game is always crazy.
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: Phantom255x on February 16, 2017, 09:23:16 PM
What's new.

Getting out rebounded by another Eastern Conference Playoff Team..  ::)
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: YoungOne87 on February 16, 2017, 09:23:20 PM
bulls hitting a lot of prayers..
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: SHAQATTACK on February 16, 2017, 09:23:35 PM
So Crowder is having another one of his disappearing acts again, huh?

Got his hands full on defense...

He doesn't like these Butler trade talks.

I'm not sure WHO would be the sacrificial lambs would be  to get JB .    I hope not Brown or My man Zizic .....I want to see what this kid can bring to the table.
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: jpotter33 on February 16, 2017, 09:23:47 PM
Hmm, imagine that, the Chicago Bulls bigs are outrebounding us by 13.

You better make that rim protection AND rebounding that you're looking to upgrade, Danny.
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: liam on February 16, 2017, 09:24:24 PM
Just getting out worked. Brad needs to work that bench more.
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: Rosco917 on February 16, 2017, 09:24:57 PM
Hmm, imagine that, the Chicago Bulls bigs are outrebounding us by 13.

You better make that rim protection AND rebounding that you're looking to upgrade, Danny.



this^
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: Chief on February 16, 2017, 09:25:28 PM
So Crowder is having another one of his disappearing acts again, huh?

Got his hands full on defense...

He doesn't like these Butler trade talks.

I'm not sure WHO would be the sacrificial lambs would be  to get JB .    I hope not Brown or My man Zizic .....I want to see what this kid can bring to the table.

Please be Bradley.
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: liam on February 16, 2017, 09:28:01 PM
Butler gets to the line.
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: Chief on February 16, 2017, 09:28:30 PM
Sleepwalking our way into all star weekend.
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: SHAQATTACK on February 16, 2017, 09:28:47 PM
Butler gets to the line.

We are missing Brown,  he would be effective against the Bulls.
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: jpotter33 on February 16, 2017, 09:28:54 PM
Once again, our bigs are just getting outclassed by their bigs, especially on the boards.
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: liam on February 16, 2017, 09:30:03 PM
Once again, our bigs are just getting outclassed by their bigs, especially on the boards.

We are missing A LOT of shots. Rebounding is always bad.
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: jpotter33 on February 16, 2017, 09:31:18 PM
HOW MANY FREAKING OFFENSIVE REBOUNDS ARE WE GOING TO GIVE UP?

Final game before the trade deadline, so maybe one more +20 rebound differential will get Danny off his arse and force him to do something about this issue.
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: Rosco917 on February 16, 2017, 09:31:28 PM
Can not have Kelly as the only big.
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: liam on February 16, 2017, 09:31:32 PM
Yeah, offensive glass is Bulls bread and butter tonight...
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: Chief on February 16, 2017, 09:31:50 PM
Rondo changed shoes.
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: YoungOne87 on February 16, 2017, 09:32:14 PM
they almost doubled our rebounds at 36-19...
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: liam on February 16, 2017, 09:32:49 PM
they almost doubled our rebounds at 36-19...

Yeah, it's pretty bad...
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: jpotter33 on February 16, 2017, 09:32:53 PM
That a boy, JJ. Get in there and bring some toughness to our bigs!
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: Chief on February 16, 2017, 09:33:01 PM
I love JJ.
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: jdz101 on February 16, 2017, 09:33:12 PM
We cant even grab a rebound....

Its amazing that this is a 3 point game tbh
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: SHAQATTACK on February 16, 2017, 09:33:49 PM
Bradley is out BIG rebounder at 6 " 1 ....he is out .....Brown leaps and fights for boards ...out .....Green probably not wanting to pressure his foot ....no help ....JJ with smashed face . 

We are up chits creek
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: Chief on February 16, 2017, 09:33:55 PM
they almost doubled our rebounds at 36-19...

Yeah, it's pretty bad...

I'd we trade for Butler, Lopez needs to be included.
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: liam on February 16, 2017, 09:33:59 PM
We cant even grab a rebound....

Its amazing that this is a 3 point game tbh

The Bulls defense is bad.
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: jpotter33 on February 16, 2017, 09:34:16 PM
Once again, our bigs are just getting outclassed by their bigs, especially on the boards.

We are missing A LOT of shots. Rebounding is always bad.

Yeah, that's the thing. Our guards and shooting have to make up for our bigs' weaknesses, and if they're off on a night, then we can be exposed in that regard, which is why I am a little worried about facing a team like Chicago in the first round with as big as they are. We simply have to have some sort of upgrade in the bigs rotation.
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: SHAQATTACK on February 16, 2017, 09:36:51 PM
Drummond could straighten out this rebounding situation.....on a night like this

Drummond would be Lopez daddy
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: jpotter33 on February 16, 2017, 09:37:28 PM
Ugh, KO is such a bad PnR defender. Just gave Lopez a mile to shoot that jumpshot.
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: jdz101 on February 16, 2017, 09:39:46 PM
Ugh, KO is such a bad PnR defender. Just gave Lopez a mile to shoot that jumpshot.

Its also the guard's responsibility to do a better job on that switch and not just turn his back and run away from the ball.
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: Chief on February 16, 2017, 09:39:47 PM
Somebody put a body on Portis.

Please!!!!!!
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: The_Truth on February 16, 2017, 09:40:36 PM
IT time!
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: mr. dee on February 16, 2017, 09:43:57 PM
Ugh, KO is such a bad PnR defender. Just gave Lopez a mile to shoot that jumpshot.

Tbf, Lopez is not that good of a jumpshooter.
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: SHAQATTACK on February 16, 2017, 09:44:21 PM
IT time!

Miller Time here  ;D
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: SCeltic34 on February 16, 2017, 09:44:35 PM
Smart and IT will guide us to victory.
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: jpotter33 on February 16, 2017, 09:45:05 PM
Would like to see us post up Smart on Rondo or Grant. Not sure why they haven't been doing that yet.
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: Clench123 on February 16, 2017, 09:45:21 PM
Please, bench Rosier
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: Chief on February 16, 2017, 09:46:41 PM
Would like to see us post up Smart on Rondo or Grant. Not sure why they haven't been doing that yet.

They did it and Marcus scored.

Why would CBS want to do that again? :'(
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: jpotter33 on February 16, 2017, 09:48:00 PM
What in the world is Rozier doing? A terrible oop pass and then a bad three? And please STOP OVERDRIBBLING!!
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: SHAQATTACK on February 16, 2017, 09:48:26 PM
Would like to see us post up Smart on Rondo or Grant. Not sure why they haven't been doing that yet.

They did it and Marcus scored.

Why would CBS want to do that again? :'(

I think ....CBS is not a post up type of guy .......it always seems to be his second or third option.
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: celticslove on February 16, 2017, 09:49:30 PM
What in the world is Rozier doing? A terrible oop pass and then a bad three? And please STOP OVERDRIBBLING!!
bailed out by Kelly luckily, this kid is clueless setting up.
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: CroCorvus on February 16, 2017, 09:50:28 PM
Swithcing on Rondo and MCW is... um plain dumb...
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: jdz101 on February 16, 2017, 09:50:28 PM
What in the world is Rozier doing? A terrible oop pass and then a bad three? And please STOP OVERDRIBBLING!!
bailed out by Kelly luckily, this kid is clueless setting up.

Ibaka wasnt worth trading Rozier tho.  :o
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: liam on February 16, 2017, 09:50:54 PM
What in the world is Rozier doing? A terrible oop pass and then a bad three? And please STOP OVERDRIBBLING!!
bailed out by Kelly luckily, this kid is clueless setting up.

Kelly is a very heady player. You can run an offense through him(Kelly not Rozier)
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: liam on February 16, 2017, 09:51:41 PM
What in the world is Rozier doing? A terrible oop pass and then a bad three? And please STOP OVERDRIBBLING!!
bailed out by Kelly luckily, this kid is clueless setting up.

Ibaka wasnt worth trading Rozier tho.  :o

If true, Danny must see something I don't.
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: jpotter33 on February 16, 2017, 09:52:37 PM
Ha! IT just totally spun Felicio around on that pass lol
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: jdz101 on February 16, 2017, 09:53:18 PM
Isaiah just grabbing jersey on defense....sign of a tired player
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: jpotter33 on February 16, 2017, 09:54:48 PM
Ugghh, KO's offense has been stellar, but our defense by the bigs is just so freaking terrible. We better have an upgrade somehow at the deadline.
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: Ilikesports17 on February 16, 2017, 09:56:31 PM
I don't enjoy watching Terry Rozier or Gerald Green despite their athleticism
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: Clench123 on February 16, 2017, 09:56:35 PM
Let's shock the world and win the Larry O'Brian trophy this year.  Yes, this year. 
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: liam on February 16, 2017, 09:56:41 PM
Kelly with some good D on Butler... Kelly's having a really good game.
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: esel1000 on February 16, 2017, 09:56:48 PM
Congrats IT
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: Clench123 on February 16, 2017, 09:57:18 PM
But then again i'm a bit tipsy lol
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: jpotter33 on February 16, 2017, 09:59:22 PM
OK, IT, let's not overly force it now.
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: Ilikesports17 on February 16, 2017, 10:00:13 PM
Isaiah looks exhausted
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: jpotter33 on February 16, 2017, 10:00:13 PM
OK, IT, let's not overly force it now.

There you go.
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: vgulab on February 16, 2017, 10:00:57 PM
41st straight 20+ game for IT, new Celtics record...
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: jpotter33 on February 16, 2017, 10:01:43 PM
OK, IT, let's not overly force it now.

There you go.

And there's bad, forcing IT again.
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: Chief on February 16, 2017, 10:03:16 PM
Let Marcus run the team.
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: jpotter33 on February 16, 2017, 10:06:40 PM
WHAT?! How is that effing ref trying to call that on the ground?!
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: tarheelsxxiii on February 16, 2017, 10:07:14 PM
The Bobby Portis that has barely left Chicago's bench all season goes off for 19 and 7 on our frontcourt.  Frustrating as heck.
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: liam on February 16, 2017, 10:07:45 PM
WHAT?! How is that effing ref trying to call that on the ground?!

Yeah, not a good call....
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: liam on February 16, 2017, 10:08:28 PM
Call corrected...
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: Chief on February 16, 2017, 10:09:39 PM
WHAT?! How is that effing ref trying to call that on the ground?!


That ref was so animated.

(https://media.giphy.com/media/zaK7Dm0YIOsVi/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: liam on February 16, 2017, 10:09:57 PM
Free throw shooting contest now...
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: jpotter33 on February 16, 2017, 10:10:49 PM
Another game of IT giveth offensively and taketh away defensively lol
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: YoungOne87 on February 16, 2017, 10:11:03 PM
cant get a crucial stop...
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: hwangjini_1 on February 16, 2017, 10:11:07 PM
I can't watch the game  why is IT fouling everyone now?
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: jpotter33 on February 16, 2017, 10:11:36 PM
Horford doesn't even chase rebounds anymore. Ridiculous.

And we're completely reliant on IT offensively in the 4th. We just can't continue to win like that.
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: liam on February 16, 2017, 10:11:50 PM
I can't watch the game  why is IT fouling everyone now?

I think he's exhausted....
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: Chief on February 16, 2017, 10:12:17 PM
Horford doesn't even chase rebounds anymore. Ridiculous.

Is he on the court? Lol
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: alewilliam789 on February 16, 2017, 10:12:36 PM
Horford has to go man. This guy is a joke. I literally just watched us get a stop, he boxed out Taj Gibson, let the ball bounce right past him and land right in the hands of Gibson. That's just staight embarrassing
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: Denis998 on February 16, 2017, 10:12:39 PM
Bad effort from Horford, didnt even chase the board
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: jpotter33 on February 16, 2017, 10:12:42 PM
Horford doesn't even chase rebounds anymore. Ridiculous.

Is he on the court? Lol

Yeah, Gibson is powning him.
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: liam on February 16, 2017, 10:12:46 PM
Horford doesn't even chase rebounds anymore. Ridiculous.

Is he on the court? Lol

No
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: tarheelsxxiii on February 16, 2017, 10:13:36 PM
I can't watch the game  why is IT fouling everyone now?

He's running around on his hands and foaming at the mouth.  The CDC has no word yet on the potential cause, but will keep you updated.  :)
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: Banner18now! on February 16, 2017, 10:13:45 PM
I have never seen a team so bad out boxing out and not chase rebounds as this Celtics team.
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: bostonsportsforlife on February 16, 2017, 10:13:53 PM
Smart with the ice cold strip!!
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: Clench123 on February 16, 2017, 10:13:55 PM
Smart is the true MVP!
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: jpotter33 on February 16, 2017, 10:13:55 PM
SMAAHHHHHHTTTTT! THE EFFING HEART AND SOUL OF OUR DEFENSE!!
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on February 16, 2017, 10:13:57 PM
Jimmy Butler is an All-Star?

(http://nbashoesdb.com/images/jugadores/3345.png)
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: hwangjini_1 on February 16, 2017, 10:13:57 PM
Smart with a steal?  ;D
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: alewilliam789 on February 16, 2017, 10:13:59 PM
Smart just saved Horford's 4ss
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: positivitize on February 16, 2017, 10:13:59 PM
Marcus Smart. Wins. Basketball games.

It would not be smart to trade him.
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: trickybilly on February 16, 2017, 10:14:08 PM
So, yet another game Marcus virtually single-handedly wins..
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: Chief on February 16, 2017, 10:14:08 PM
You can't go out Smart. Especially in the 4th.

Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: manl_lui on February 16, 2017, 10:14:15 PM
Smart just wants it! every game!
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: Ilikesports17 on February 16, 2017, 10:14:18 PM
This dude.
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: liam on February 16, 2017, 10:14:25 PM
Smart again!
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: jpotter33 on February 16, 2017, 10:14:30 PM
Horford doesn't even chase rebounds anymore. Ridiculous.

Is he on the court? Lol

No

Yes he was. He was guarding Gibson whenever he got that offensive rebound before the time out.
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: Clench123 on February 16, 2017, 10:14:30 PM
Never ever trade that dude
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: Bucketgetter on February 16, 2017, 10:14:32 PM
Bailed out by Smart again.
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: Ogaju on February 16, 2017, 10:14:42 PM
MAHCUS SMAHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: Denis998 on February 16, 2017, 10:14:51 PM
MOST CLUTCH DEFENSIVE PLAYER?
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: YoungOne87 on February 16, 2017, 10:14:58 PM
finally a stop and we secured the ball!
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: Ilikesports17 on February 16, 2017, 10:15:03 PM
If smart started talking about 1st team all defense I think he'd make it.
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: YoungOne87 on February 16, 2017, 10:15:58 PM
what a poor shot -.-
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: liam on February 16, 2017, 10:16:00 PM
Horford doesn't even chase rebounds anymore. Ridiculous.

Is he on the court? Lol

No

Yes he was. He was guarding Gibson whenever he got that offensive rebound before the time out.

didn't see him ::)
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: Chief on February 16, 2017, 10:16:02 PM
Horford doesn't even chase rebounds anymore. Ridiculous.

Is he on the court? Lol

No

Yes he was. He was guarding Gibson whenever he got that offensive rebound before the time out.

He was. I was making a joke. 
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: bello_man09 on February 16, 2017, 10:16:15 PM
what was that...
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: Chief on February 16, 2017, 10:16:49 PM
Let them play refs!!! :police:
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: hwangjini_1 on February 16, 2017, 10:16:55 PM
Wow. What a finish to the game. One stop and the win folks.
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: jpotter33 on February 16, 2017, 10:16:57 PM
Uggh, I'm not sure how confident I am in our team's defense at this moment to make this last stop. Smart is the only one that consistently defends at a high level anymore.
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: Atzar on February 16, 2017, 10:17:14 PM
I think this team needs more of a scheme in crunch time than 'give the ball to IT'.  He's phenomenal, but we have other guys who can score too and a few of his shots in the fourth tonight have just been wild.
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: Ilikesports17 on February 16, 2017, 10:17:26 PM
Isaiah needs this all star break and we need to be back at full strength  to take some of the load off him.
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: Clench123 on February 16, 2017, 10:17:39 PM
Am i the only one who saw Olynyk's right hand hooked that entire play?
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: Ilikesports17 on February 16, 2017, 10:17:56 PM
Uggh, I'm not sure how confident I am in our team's defense at this moment to make this last stop. Smart is the only one that consistently defends at a high level anymore.
Sure, but Butler is the only Bull touching the ball rn.
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: liam on February 16, 2017, 10:18:08 PM
I think this team needs more of a scheme in crunch time than 'give the ball to IT'.  He's phenomenal, but we have other guys who can score too and a few of his shots in the fourth tonight have just been wild.

Kelly should've gotten a shot, he's got his confidence back!
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: jpotter33 on February 16, 2017, 10:18:11 PM
I think this team needs more of a scheme in crunch time than 'give the ball to IT'.  He's phenomenal, but we have other guys who can score too and a few of his shots in the fourth tonight have just been wild.

Yep. Tonight he's forced quite a bit more than usual in the 4th.
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: Ogaju on February 16, 2017, 10:18:30 PM
CELTICS WIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

BUT THE REFS TAKE IT AWAY.
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: Ogaju on February 16, 2017, 10:18:43 PM
OH NO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! REFS GETTING INVOLVED IN GAME DECIDING PLAY.
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on February 16, 2017, 10:18:49 PM
Sorry, that's just a BS call. BS CALL!
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: liam on February 16, 2017, 10:18:52 PM
Am i the only one who saw Olynyk's right hand hooked that entire play?

I didn't catch that.
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: Roy H. on February 16, 2017, 10:18:54 PM
You've gotta be kidding me.  That's one of the worst calls I've ever seen.
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: Celtic Fan Forever on February 16, 2017, 10:19:02 PM
You gotta be kidding
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: jpotter33 on February 16, 2017, 10:19:06 PM
OMG THIS REF... AND IT ISN'T EVEN THE ONE WITH THE CLEAR VIEW OF THE FOUL. WHAT BS!
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: BASS_THUMPER on February 16, 2017, 10:19:11 PM
wow
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: Chief on February 16, 2017, 10:19:28 PM
Let them play refs!!! :police:

U got to be kidding me!
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: BASS_THUMPER on February 16, 2017, 10:19:35 PM
he got em
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: hwangjini_1 on February 16, 2017, 10:19:39 PM
Edited.  Profanity and masked profanity are against forum rules and may result in discipline..
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: liam on February 16, 2017, 10:19:42 PM
wow,,,,,
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: Neurotic Guy on February 16, 2017, 10:19:57 PM
Unbelievably bad call.  Unreal - that never gets called.  Unbelievable.
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: Ilikesports17 on February 16, 2017, 10:19:58 PM
Are you kidding?
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: alewilliam789 on February 16, 2017, 10:20:04 PM
Well we can legitimately say the ref determined the otucome of this game
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: Banner18now! on February 16, 2017, 10:20:14 PM
terrible call but terrible shot selection by Isiah out them in this spot
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: Cman on February 16, 2017, 10:20:23 PM
Come on refs. BS.
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: Rosco917 on February 16, 2017, 10:20:37 PM
BS
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: Celtic Fan Forever on February 16, 2017, 10:20:57 PM
Time for a game winner
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: Neurotic Guy on February 16, 2017, 10:20:58 PM
Stolen game.
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: hwangjini_1 on February 16, 2017, 10:21:10 PM
A tp for anyone who can,post a vdeo of that final foul please.  Thanks.
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: Chief on February 16, 2017, 10:21:11 PM
Literally incompetent.
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on February 16, 2017, 10:21:17 PM
Good job winning this game, refs.

That's just a bull dung call.
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: BASS_THUMPER on February 16, 2017, 10:21:20 PM
how much time left
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: liam on February 16, 2017, 10:21:29 PM
That's why you want "Stars"
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: rocknrollforyoursoul on February 16, 2017, 10:21:29 PM
So let me get this straight ... they just lost on free throws with no time left?
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: Roy H. on February 16, 2017, 10:21:33 PM
That ref should be suspended. If we miss a top seed by 1 game, it's because of this totally phantom call.
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: Atzar on February 16, 2017, 10:21:43 PM
That's a horrible call.  Just brutal.
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: Ilikesports17 on February 16, 2017, 10:21:46 PM
A tp for anyone who can,post a cpvideo of that final foul please.  Thanks.
I would but I didn't see a foul so I'm not sure what to post
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: wayupnorth on February 16, 2017, 10:21:52 PM
What a bunch of ****.

Not a foul. Clear game giveaway unless Brad pulls something out of his hat.

Man that aggravates me.
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: GetLucky on February 16, 2017, 10:21:53 PM
That's the most mad I've ever seen Brad. Probably justified, too. Let's see if he gets the last laugh with his SOB play.
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: TomHeinsohn on February 16, 2017, 10:22:02 PM
Count on a make up call here
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: Clench123 on February 16, 2017, 10:22:09 PM
The league should really look into this one.  It's BS.
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: Vox_Populi on February 16, 2017, 10:22:13 PM
Joke call
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: hwangjini_1 on February 16, 2017, 10:22:17 PM
how much time left
.08 seconds
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: blink on February 16, 2017, 10:22:29 PM
that was the worst call I have seen all year.  Smart at worst grazed butler's elbow.  had NO impact on his shot
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: BASS_THUMPER on February 16, 2017, 10:22:39 PM
we gonna win this!!

sippin
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: liam on February 16, 2017, 10:22:41 PM
A tp for anyone who can,post a cpvideo of that final foul please.  Thanks.
I would but I didn't see a foul so I'm not sure what to post

No one saw it cause it wasn't there....
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: Snakehead on February 16, 2017, 10:22:44 PM
Awful call.
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: BASS_THUMPER on February 16, 2017, 10:23:07 PM
how much time left
.08 seconds


plenty of time....
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: angryguy77 on February 16, 2017, 10:23:10 PM
All my years watching this game, and I've never seen that weak of a call at the end.....
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: JOMVP on February 16, 2017, 10:23:11 PM
Guarentee this final play has 10 times more contact than the Smart foul and it doesnt get called.
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: rocknrollforyoursoul on February 16, 2017, 10:23:37 PM
Bad call notwithstanding, why did the Cs even let the Bulls keep this close? Clearly inferior team, Boston should've put them away earlier.
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: Chief on February 16, 2017, 10:23:37 PM
that was the worst call I have seen all year.  Smart at worst grazed butler's elbow.  had NO impact on his shot

Marcus should get the benefit of the doubt defensively.
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: BASS_THUMPER on February 16, 2017, 10:24:03 PM
oh man

im a lil ticked
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: jpotter33 on February 16, 2017, 10:24:18 PM
Horford gets contact on the shot - no call. Unfreakingbelievable. SO BS.
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: angryguy77 on February 16, 2017, 10:24:39 PM
Now I remember why my interest in this league is not what it once was.
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: wayupnorth on February 16, 2017, 10:24:50 PM
Man that p---es off.


What a load of crap.
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: chicagoceltic on February 16, 2017, 10:24:51 PM
A tp for anyone who can,post a vdeo of that final foul please.  Thanks.
Trick request...you are asking for the impossible because there was not foul.
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: alewilliam789 on February 16, 2017, 10:25:00 PM
No call on Horford when it's  essentially the same thing
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on February 16, 2017, 10:25:10 PM
That is such BILL CRIPES!!!

Waited until Jimmy Butler missed the shot before the "foul" was called, not to mention that the ref who called WASN'T EVEN IN THE VICINITY of the play.

That was blatant, blatant incompetence.
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: BASS_THUMPER on February 16, 2017, 10:25:21 PM
he didnt touch him
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: hwangjini_1 on February 16, 2017, 10:25:23 PM
Again, a tp for anyone. Who can post a video of the final foul by smart. Sigh.
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: manl_lui on February 16, 2017, 10:25:48 PM
that's a very very poor way to lose a game :(
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: Clench123 on February 16, 2017, 10:25:49 PM
Olynyk's right arm was hooked that entire second to the last play.
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: liam on February 16, 2017, 10:26:00 PM
And that will be the trouble playing the Bulls BS calls at the end... Wow... Crappy ending to a good game.
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: Chief on February 16, 2017, 10:26:05 PM
No call on Horford when it's  essentially the same thing

Of course. That ref is a loser.
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: BASS_THUMPER on February 16, 2017, 10:26:28 PM
bad call but a good game

oly balled!!
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: TomHeinsohn on February 16, 2017, 10:26:31 PM
Why were we excited about Horford?
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: hwangjini_1 on February 16, 2017, 10:26:43 PM
Disappointing game. But the team can rest up now. They need it.
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: kraidstar on February 16, 2017, 10:26:44 PM
Butler on the last play:

"D-Wade taught me that move."

Yeah, toss up a  prayer and let the crooked refs bail you out. It actually is a LOT like D-Wade.
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: MJohnnyboy on February 16, 2017, 10:27:11 PM
Here's the clip.

https://twitter.com/ESPNNBA/status/832430885160968193

Bull Edited.  Profanity and masked profanity are against forum rules and may result in discipline..
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: Banner18now! on February 16, 2017, 10:27:53 PM
Celtics are not that good of a second seed. If Ainge can't make a move this team can't get past the second round. Can't beat Whashington, Cleveland or Toronto and they will play one of this teams in the second round. Horford is a decent player it just sucks they had to give him max money because he is not even close to a max player. He was a straight up bum tonight.
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: CroCorvus on February 16, 2017, 10:28:02 PM
Yeah look at the refs all you want but you played stupid game. Our pick n roll coverage was disaster. IT finishing all is not acceptable in serious games. We are a regular team still....
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: nickagneta on February 16, 2017, 10:28:03 PM
What complete utter freaking nonsense. One horrible call on one end and then you swallow your whistle with more contact on the other end. Boston didn't lose this game...they got jobbed.
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: Roy H. on February 16, 2017, 10:28:08 PM
Why were we excited about Horford?

Because he's really good?

It's hard to blame a guy for missing a jumper with 0.9 seconds left.
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: BASS_THUMPER on February 16, 2017, 10:28:12 PM
all on da bow

busted
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: Clench123 on February 16, 2017, 10:28:17 PM
This is what happens when you toy with opponents and play down to competition thinking you can always pull off a close game in the 4th.  Seriously i blame our team for this loss.
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: celticslove on February 16, 2017, 10:28:22 PM
wow that was bogus, energy draining call turrrrible!!!
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: hwangjini_1 on February 16, 2017, 10:28:30 PM
Here's the clip.

https://twitter.com/ESPNNBA/status/832430885160968193

Bull ****.
YOU ARE BULL****TING ME, They call THAT a foul with the game on the line??? 

I. Don't usually blame the refs, but this was a rob job. Cripes.
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: jpotter33 on February 16, 2017, 10:28:34 PM
Still shouldn't have come down to that. IT simply can't force 3-4 bad shots in the 4th quarter like he did, and Brad has to go to somebody else occasionally in the 4th. Also, if our incompetent bigs could actually have just rebounded the ball once on one of those last possessions, none of that would've happened.

Do something about these issues, Danny.
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: Clench123 on February 16, 2017, 10:28:54 PM
We deserve this loss
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: Chief on February 16, 2017, 10:29:07 PM
https://twitter.com/BillSimmons/status/832429361189957634
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: MJohnnyboy on February 16, 2017, 10:29:14 PM
As frustrating as that last call was, what the Edited.  Profanity and masked profanity are against forum rules and may result in discipline. was that late game execution? Celtics had to put it away. You know, when we rely too much on IT, it gets to the point where teams expect that.
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: alewilliam789 on February 16, 2017, 10:29:26 PM
Refs should never dictate the last play of the game with a bail out foul call unless it is the most blatant foul call you have ever seen!!!!!!!!!! I've seen people get slapped across both the arm and the face and no call. You want to know why? Because good officials want to just have a clean game, not determine the outcome of the game
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: hwangjini_1 on February 16, 2017, 10:29:45 PM
Still shouldn't have come down to that. IT simply can't force 3-4 bad shots in the 4th quarter like he did, and Brad has to go to somebody else occasionally in the 4th. Also, if our incompetent bigs could actually have just rebounded the ball once on one of those last possessions, none of that would've happened.

Do something about these issues, Danny.
True, but this exact formula has worked so many times before.

But your basic point stands and is spot on.
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: Rosco917 on February 16, 2017, 10:29:57 PM
Out rebounded 51 to 31, we're lucky it was that close.

15 to 4 on offensive rebounds.
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: Clench123 on February 16, 2017, 10:30:17 PM
A loss well deserved
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: cltc5 on February 16, 2017, 10:30:25 PM
Yeah look at the refs all you want but you played stupid game. Our pick n roll coverage was disaster. IT finishing all is not acceptable in serious games. We are a regular team still....

Yep.  Shut down down the stretch
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: Vox_Populi on February 16, 2017, 10:31:00 PM
Anywho, I do hope Danny can get some rebounding. Mediocre teams keep it close because the Celtics can't end defensive possessions.
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: vgulab on February 16, 2017, 10:31:13 PM
I didn't like the 5 who were in the game on that last play. Why BS didn't put Green and Rozier in the game for the last second?

But still terrible refs
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: Ilikesports17 on February 16, 2017, 10:31:21 PM
Second time this year Marcus has won a game with his defense and a star has been given a bullsht whistle

First Lillard now Jimmy

When do refs learn Smart is a special defender and you shouldn't just assume a foul?
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: jpotter33 on February 16, 2017, 10:32:33 PM
Out rebounded 51 to 31, we're lucky it was that close.

15 to 4 on offensive rebounds.

Someone want to tweet this to Danny Ainge to get him to stop sitting on his hands watching our team get abused on the boards every single night?
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: mr. dee on February 16, 2017, 10:33:09 PM
Even the Bulls fan felt lucky about that call. At least they admit that was a horsepoop call.
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: Denis998 on February 16, 2017, 10:33:24 PM
I didn't like the 5 who were in the game on that last play. Why BS didn't put Green and Rozier in the game for the last second?

But still terrible refs
lobs and things like that
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: cltc5 on February 16, 2017, 10:33:26 PM
Still shouldn't have come down to that. IT simply can't force 3-4 bad shots in the 4th quarter like he did, and Brad has to go to somebody else occasionally in the 4th. Also, if our incompetent bigs could actually have just rebounded the ball once on one of those last possessions, none of that would've happened.

Do something about these issues, Danny.

He won't and we'll ride off into the sunset in the second round ready to put the same show out next year.  Rinse and repeat.  Oh what fun ::)
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: celtics2030 on February 16, 2017, 10:33:56 PM
I am not going to blame MArcus for that, tough tough call. IM like wow how do you call that.


When I watch the replay and this is just as a fan watching im telling myself , Marcus didn't have to extend that far , he wasnt blocking the shot or even making it difficult for butler with that extention.,...he extended almost like he wanted to tap on his elbow.

Again this was only as a fan watching and wishing he wouldn't have extended.

I still believe that it doesn't get called like 80% of the time, and those 20% are only with players like Lebron, Wade, Durant type players.
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: jpotter33 on February 16, 2017, 10:34:12 PM
Horford and Johnson both had 2 freaking rebounds tonight. They were LITERALLY outrebounded by every single other person that played outside of James Young and Zeller.

This simply can't happen.
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: celtics2030 on February 16, 2017, 10:35:17 PM
Horrific Horford
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: cltc5 on February 16, 2017, 10:35:37 PM
A loss well deserved

We heard you the first time. Now sit down child. Jesus why are you repeating the same thing over again trying to get a response.

Well it worked didn't it?
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: Clench123 on February 16, 2017, 10:35:37 PM
If we play the bulls in the first round and play this garbage basketball it's going to be another 1st round exit.  This game is not on Danny or Stevens or anybody but the sorry azz lazy players we have.  The bulls has always been a bad match-up for us.  If we face them in the first round, good luck.
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: BASS_THUMPER on February 16, 2017, 10:36:51 PM
A loss well deserved

We heard you the first time. Now sit down child. Jesus why are you repeating the same thing over again trying to get a response.

Well it worked didn't it?

tickled me a lil bit



*sippin*
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: bdm860 on February 16, 2017, 10:39:16 PM
Bulls get some lucky breaks this year.  Reminds me of that phantom foul call on Cousins when Wade blew the layup.
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: Clench123 on February 16, 2017, 10:39:55 PM
It seems like this team only plays the 4th quarter.  It's frustrating...cruising through 1st half and hoping to put teams away on IT's 4th quarter enigma 
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: Clench123 on February 16, 2017, 10:42:52 PM
A loss well deserved

We heard you the first time. Now sit down child. Jesus why are you repeating the same thing over again trying to get a response.

Well it worked didn't it?
I'm sick of him tbh. This dude is a constant negative splotch on this forum that instead of showing constructive criticism in analysis of this team he just displays outright negative crap that usually does nothing, but perpetuate negativity through this forum. At lest jpotter, while being severly critical at times, gives thoughtful analysis and gives factual info to back his opinion

Blah blah blah...deal with with it.  I don't blindly follow this team.  Constructive criticism is pointing out that we cruise through three quarters expecting to win the game on the 4th.  Is that not true?  Stats supports my argument on this.  What do you have, Sherlock?
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: bopna on February 16, 2017, 10:43:00 PM
Man I hate it when the refs decide the outcome.
Its not a foul by any means. If it was then all contacts will be foul becauar it wasn't even a contact..it was a slightest touch.

How I wish the NBA can change its rules for this type of situation. Review every last second foul if it will determine outcome of games and be able to rescind calls if there is an inadvertent whistle.
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: Denis998 on February 16, 2017, 10:43:58 PM
Just so you guys know who the idiot that made that call. Hes from LA so probably has lakers ties.

(http://lasportshub.com/files/2016/01/byron-scott-j.t.-orr-kobe-bryant-nba-new-orleans-pelicans-los-angeles-lakers.jpg)

http://www.nba.com/article/2016/12/30/clippers-doc-rivers-austin-rivers-ejected-houston

http://www.nbra.net/nba-officials/referee-biographies/j-t-orr/

Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: hwangjini_1 on February 16, 2017, 10:45:15 PM
Out rebounded 51 to 31, we're lucky it was that close.

15 to 4 on offensive rebounds.

Someone want to tweet this to Danny Ainge to get him to stop sitting on his hands watching our team get abused on the boards every single night?
Didn't he already say so himself? Along with his unwillingness to mortgage the future for a rental this season.
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: hwangjini_1 on February 16, 2017, 10:47:38 PM
A loss well deserved

We heard you the first time. Now sit down child. Jesus why are you repeating the same thing over again trying to get a response.

Well it worked didn't it?
I'm sick of him tbh. This dude is a constant negative splotch on this forum that instead of showing constructive criticism in analysis of this team he just displays outright negative crap that usually does nothing, but perpetuate negativity through this forum. At lest jpotter, while being severly critical at times, gives thoughtful analysis and gives factual info to back his opinion

Blah blah blah...deal with with it.  I don't blindly follow this team.  Constructive criticism is pointing out that we cruise through three quarters expecting to win the game on the 4th.  Is that not true?  Stats supports my argument on this.  What do you have, Sherlock?
Clench, in all honesty, the comment on your level of negativity was spot on. Please think about that for a while and the affect it has on others here.

 This is a good community.
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: cltc5 on February 16, 2017, 10:48:55 PM
A loss well deserved

We heard you the first time. Now sit down child. Jesus why are you repeating the same thing over again trying to get a response.

Well it worked didn't it?
I'm sick of him tbh. This dude is a constant negative splotch on this forum that instead of showing constructive criticism in analysis of this team he just displays outright negative crap that usually does nothing, but perpetuate negativity through this forum. At lest jpotter, while being severly critical at times, gives thoughtful analysis and gives factual info to back his opinion

Blah blah blah...deal with with it.  I don't blindly follow this team.  Constructive criticism is pointing out that we cruise through three quarters expecting to win the game on the 4th.  Is that not true?  Stats supports my argument on this.  What do you have, Sherlock?

I like your style ;D. People really get butt hurt if you say anything bad about this team around here.  We are who we are.  An ecf exit at best.  And I'm sorry,  when your  sits on assets year after year and hopes to get lucky while your team still needs glaring issues addressed, it creates plenty of room for criticism. 
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: alewilliam789 on February 16, 2017, 10:49:13 PM
A loss well deserved

We heard you the first time. Now sit down child. Jesus why are you repeating the same thing over again trying to get a response.

Well it worked didn't it?
I'm sick of him tbh. This dude is a constant negative splotch on this forum that instead of showing constructive criticism in analysis of this team he just displays outright negative crap that usually does nothing, but perpetuate negativity through this forum. At lest jpotter, while being severly critical at times, gives thoughtful analysis and gives factual info to back his opinion

Blah blah blah...deal with with it.  I don't blindly follow this team.  Constructive criticism is pointing out that we cruise through three quarters expecting to win the game on the 4th.  Is that not true?  Stats supports my argument on this.  What do you have, Sherlock?
Blah, blah, blah really does fit your dialogue very well. Mostly because that's the quality of a lot of your posts.

Difference between blindly following a team, constructive criticism, and just being negative to be negative.
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: Smitty77 on February 16, 2017, 10:49:37 PM
If we play the bulls in the first round and play this garbage basketball it's going to be another 1st round exit.  This game is not on Dann or Stevens or anybody else but the sorry azz lazy players we have.  The bulls has always been a bad match-up for us.  If we face them in the first round, good luck.

I WANT to play the Bulls SO very badly!!!  Give us the Bulls in the first round.  The Bulls got us coming on the back end of a back to back with a first team All-NBA defender and our second leading scorer out, as well a Jaylen being out.  Don't even begin to compare Wade's overall game with the impact of having BOTH Avery AND Jaylen out. 

The Bulls are STILL an UNDER .500 team and we are 17 games OVER .500!!!

And WHY is no one calling out Crowder with his 7 points and 3 rebounds and his 0-4 shooting from three??

Smitty77
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: cltc5 on February 16, 2017, 10:51:01 PM
A loss well deserved

We heard you the first time. Now sit down child. Jesus why are you repeating the same thing over again trying to get a response.

Well it worked didn't it?
I'm sick of him tbh. This dude is a constant negative splotch on this forum that instead of showing constructive criticism in analysis of this team he just displays outright negative crap that usually does nothing, but perpetuate negativity through this forum. At lest jpotter, while being severly critical at times, gives thoughtful analysis and gives factual info to back his opinion

Blah blah blah...deal with with it.  I don't blindly follow this team.  Constructive criticism is pointing out that we cruise through three quarters expecting to win the game on the 4th.  Is that not true?  Stats supports my argument on this.  What do you have, Sherlock?
Clench, in all honesty, the comment on your level of negativity was spot on. Please think about that for a while and the affect it has on others here.

 This is a good community.

Did trump sign another executive order for people to read and react to posts? 
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: jpotter33 on February 16, 2017, 10:53:16 PM
Brad taking a subtle shot at Horford mentioning we didn't run down some balls late that we should've. Still ticks me off. I'm really starting to question the defensive reputation of our $26M man, especially if we keep playing him out of position, though he's obviously not much better down low banging with the bigs.

Al - 7 points, 2 REBOUNDS, 3 assists, 1 block and a  -10

Amir - 10 points, 2 REBOUNDS, 2 blocks, 1 steal and a -5

Lopez - 15 points, 8 REBOUNDS, 2 assists, 2 blocks and a +6

Gibson - 12 points, 9 REBOUNDS, 2 assists,  and a +7

Smart was the only starter in the positives, and the entire bench was.
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: Clench123 on February 16, 2017, 10:53:41 PM
A loss well deserved

We heard you the first time. Now sit down child. Jesus why are you repeating the same thing over again trying to get a response.

Well it worked didn't it?
I'm sick of him tbh. This dude is a constant negative splotch on this forum that instead of showing constructive criticism in analysis of this team he just displays outright negative crap that usually does nothing, but perpetuate negativity through this forum. At lest jpotter, while being severly critical at times, gives thoughtful analysis and gives factual info to back his opinion

Blah blah blah...deal with with it.  I don't blindly follow this team.  Constructive criticism is pointing out that we cruise through three quarters expecting to win the game on the 4th.  Is that not true?  Stats supports my argument on this.  What do you have, Sherlock?
Clench, in all honesty, the comment on your level of negativity was spot on. Please think that for a while and theaffect it has on others here.

Negativity?  Seriously?  Most of my comments here is me complimenting these players.  Go back, if you can, and read my positive comments and what you guys consider "negative" comments and you'd see that my compliments outweigh my criticisms.  It's just that you guys only focus on when I go nuts because the team is losing a game.  The fact, which the analysts continue to point out, is that we've won so many close games this season.  What does that say about us?  If you watch those games we don't wake up until the opponent wake up.  That's how we've played most games the entire season.  These are facts.  What's the negativity in that?  It doesn't work in boxing, taking punches to the face for 11 rounds only to win the 12th and expect to win the match, why should it work in basketball?
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: hwangjini_1 on February 16, 2017, 10:54:27 PM
A loss well deserved

We heard you the first time. Now sit down child. Jesus why are you repeating the same thing over again trying to get a response.

Well it worked didn't it?
I'm sick of him tbh. This dude is a constant negative splotch on this forum that instead of showing constructive criticism in analysis of this team he just displays outright negative crap that usually does nothing, but perpetuate negativity through this forum. At lest jpotter, while being severly critical at times, gives thoughtful analysis and gives factual info to back his opinion

Blah blah blah...deal with with it.  I don't blindly follow this team.  Constructive criticism is pointing out that we cruise through three quarters expecting to win the game on the 4th.  Is that not true?  Stats supports my argument on this.  What do you have, Sherlock?
Clench, in all honesty, the comment on your level of negativity was spot on. Please think about that for a while and the affect it has on others here.

 This is a good community.

Did trump sign another executive order for people to read and react to posts?
You may have posted in the wrong thread because this makes no sense here and contributesnothing to a civil conversation.
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: BASS_THUMPER on February 16, 2017, 10:54:51 PM
lip sync

were ll cool j at

smh
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: Chief on February 16, 2017, 10:56:22 PM
lip sync

were ll cool j at

smh

Dude the opening act for Mariah?
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: BASS_THUMPER on February 16, 2017, 10:59:17 PM
lip sync

were ll cool j at

smh

Dude the opening act for Mariah?


LOL

yeah..
also he need to pull his pants ..he showin is fruit of the looms
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: alewilliam789 on February 16, 2017, 11:00:13 PM
A loss well deserved

We heard you the first time. Now sit down child. Jesus why are you repeating the same thing over again trying to get a response.

Well it worked didn't it?
I'm sick of him tbh. This dude is a constant negative splotch on this forum that instead of showing constructive criticism in analysis of this team he just displays outright negative crap that usually does nothing, but perpetuate negativity through this forum. At lest jpotter, while being severly critical at times, gives thoughtful analysis and gives factual info to back his opinion

Blah blah blah...deal with with it.  I don't blindly follow this team.  Constructive criticism is pointing out that we cruise through three quarters expecting to win the game on the 4th.  Is that not true?  Stats supports my argument on this.  What do you have, Sherlock?
Clench, in all honesty, the comment on your level of negativity was spot on. Please think about that for a while and the affect it has on others here.

 This is a good community.

Did trump sign another executive order for people to read and react to posts?

It's just like this, Why do you consistently need to post negative comments on your own teams blog for no reason other than you can? Sure he has a right, as do I to have a response about his posts. I just don't see the point of being blatantly negative for no reason repeatedly.

We don't need to be blindly faithful to the team, but we should have both positive and negative commentary on our FAVORITE team that we follow so closely that we come to a blog forum and spend hours of our lives on.

When a team is second in the East with one All Star and on pace to win 50 games, there should be some level of solid positive commentary that you can have on your FAVORITE team.
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: trickybilly on February 16, 2017, 11:00:19 PM
A loss well deserved

We heard you the first time. Now sit down child. Jesus why are you repeating the same thing over again trying to get a response.

Well it worked didn't it?
I'm sick of him tbh. This dude is a constant negative splotch on this forum that instead of showing constructive criticism in analysis of this team he just displays outright negative crap that usually does nothing, but perpetuate negativity through this forum. At lest jpotter, while being severly critical at times, gives thoughtful analysis and gives factual info to back his opinion

Blah blah blah...deal with with it.  I don't blindly follow this team.  Constructive criticism is pointing out that we cruise through three quarters expecting to win the game on the 4th.  Is that not true?  Stats supports my argument on this.  What do you have, Sherlock?
Clench, in all honesty, the comment on your level of negativity was spot on. Please think about that for a while and the affect it has on others here.

 This is a good community.

Did trump sign another executive order for people to read and react to posts?
You may have posted in the wrong thread because this makes no sense here and contributesnothing to a civil conversation.

I smirked. Combining Trump, CB Posters, and our Offensive Set Strategy: we'll played.

If you can't see the beautiful and increasing butt-hurt fighting going on here post loss, well...
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: FTH1054@gmail.com on February 16, 2017, 11:01:40 PM
The hard part of this game to me is sometime tomorrow afternoon the League Office will announce that the call on Smart was a bad call and should have not been made. Regardless, are effort as a team on the boards tonight was not there.
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: BASS_THUMPER on February 16, 2017, 11:05:22 PM
The hard part of this game to me is sometime tomorrow afternoon the League Office will announce that the call on Smart was a bad call and should have not been made. Regardless, are effort as a team on the boards tonight was not there.


LOL

TP!!

hook him fam!!
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: rocknrollforyoursoul on February 16, 2017, 11:08:25 PM
Still shouldn't have come down to that. IT simply can't force 3-4 bad shots in the 4th quarter like he did, and Brad has to go to somebody else occasionally in the 4th. Also, if our incompetent bigs could actually have just rebounded the ball once on one of those last possessions, none of that would've happened.

Do something about these issues, Danny.

My thoughts exactly.

Boston came into this game 10 GAMES better than the Bulls.

Boston was the home team.

Boston shot only 4 of 16 on threes in the second half.

Boston got outrebounded for the game by 20. TWENTY.

This shouldn't have been clinging to a 1-point lead with mere seconds left.

And Smart, being a great defensive player, should be able to contest a shot without getting that close to the shooter's arm.
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: fantankerous on February 16, 2017, 11:10:07 PM
A loss well deserved

We heard you the first time. Now sit down child. Jesus why are you repeating the same thing over again trying to get a response.

Well it worked didn't it?
I'm sick of him tbh. This dude is a constant negative splotch on this forum that instead of showing constructive criticism in analysis of this team he just displays outright negative crap that usually does nothing, but perpetuate negativity through this forum. At lest jpotter, while being severly critical at times, gives thoughtful analysis and gives factual info to back his opinion

Blah blah blah...deal with with it.  I don't blindly follow this team.  Constructive criticism is pointing out that we cruise through three quarters expecting to win the game on the 4th.  Is that not true?  Stats supports my argument on this.  What do you have, Sherlock?
Clench, in all honesty, the comment on your level of negativity was spot on. Please think that for a while and theaffect it has on others here.

Negativity?  Seriously?  Most of my comments here is me complimenting these players.  Go back, if you can, and read my positive comments and what you guys consider "negative" comments and you'd see that my compliments outweigh my criticisms.  It's just that you guys only focus on when I go nuts because the team is losing a game.  The fact, which the analysts continue to point out, is that we've won so many close games this season.  What does that say about us?  If you watch those games we don't wake up until the opponent wake up.  That's how we've played most games the entire season.  These are facts.  What's the negativity in that?  It doesn't work in boxing, taking punches to the face for 11 rounds only to win the 12th and expect to win the match, why should it work in basketball?

Whether it's positivity or negativity is immaterial.  Clench is simply an awful human being. 
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: cltc5 on February 16, 2017, 11:10:30 PM
A loss well deserved

We heard you the first time. Now sit down child. Jesus why are you repeating the same thing over again trying to get a response.

Well it worked didn't it?
I'm sick of him tbh. This dude is a constant negative splotch on this forum that instead of showing constructive criticism in analysis of this team he just displays outright negative crap that usually does nothing, but perpetuate negativity through this forum. At lest jpotter, while being severly critical at times, gives thoughtful analysis and gives factual info to back his opinion

Blah blah blah...deal with with it.  I don't blindly follow this team.  Constructive criticism is pointing out that we cruise through three quarters expecting to win the game on the 4th.  Is that not true?  Stats supports my argument on this.  What do you have, Sherlock?
Clench, in all honesty, the comment on your level of negativity was spot on. Please think about that for a while and the affect it has on others here.

 This is a good community.

Did trump sign another executive order for people to read and react to posts?

It's just like this, Why do you consistently need to post negative comments on your own teams blog for no reason other than you can? Sure he has a right, as do I to have a response about his posts. I just don't see the point of being blatantly negative for no reason repeatedly.

We don't need to be blindly faithful to the team, but we should have both positive and negative commentary on our FAVORITE team that we follow so closely that we come to a blog forum and spend hours of our lives on.

When a team is second in the East with one All Star and on pace to win 50 games, there should be some level of solid positive commentary that you can have on your FAVORITE team.

Ummmm maybe you shouldn't spend hours of your life on a blog caring about what's said about a team by usernames.  Let's start there.
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: cltc5 on February 16, 2017, 11:12:22 PM
Still shouldn't have come down to that. IT simply can't force 3-4 bad shots in the 4th quarter like he did, and Brad has to go to somebody else occasionally in the 4th. Also, if our incompetent bigs could actually have just rebounded the ball once on one of those last possessions, none of that would've happened.

Do something about these issues, Danny.

My thoughts exactly.

Boston came into this game 10 GAMES better than the Bulls.

Boston was the home team.

Boston shot only 4 of 16 on threes in the second half.

Boston got outrebounded for the game by 20. TWENTY.

This shouldn't have been clinging to a 1-point lead with mere seconds left.

And Smart, being a great defensive player, should be able to contest a shot without getting that close to the shooter's arm.

Bulls were the home team but you know #alternativefacts
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: rocknrollforyoursoul on February 16, 2017, 11:14:45 PM
Still shouldn't have come down to that. IT simply can't force 3-4 bad shots in the 4th quarter like he did, and Brad has to go to somebody else occasionally in the 4th. Also, if our incompetent bigs could actually have just rebounded the ball once on one of those last possessions, none of that would've happened.

Do something about these issues, Danny.

My thoughts exactly.

Boston came into this game 10 GAMES better than the Bulls.

Boston was the home team.

Boston shot only 4 of 16 on threes in the second half.

Boston got outrebounded for the game by 20. TWENTY.

This shouldn't have been clinging to a 1-point lead with mere seconds left.

And Smart, being a great defensive player, should be able to contest a shot without getting that close to the shooter's arm.

Bulls were the home team but you know #alternativefacts

HAHA. Oops. My bad!  ;D

Doesn't change my point, though. Shouldn't even have been a close game.
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: alewilliam789 on February 16, 2017, 11:14:53 PM
A loss well deserved

We heard you the first time. Now sit down child. Jesus why are you repeating the same thing over again trying to get a response.

Well it worked didn't it?
I'm sick of him tbh. This dude is a constant negative splotch on this forum that instead of showing constructive criticism in analysis of this team he just displays outright negative crap that usually does nothing, but perpetuate negativity through this forum. At lest jpotter, while being severly critical at times, gives thoughtful analysis and gives factual info to back his opinion

Blah blah blah...deal with with it.  I don't blindly follow this team.  Constructive criticism is pointing out that we cruise through three quarters expecting to win the game on the 4th.  Is that not true?  Stats supports my argument on this.  What do you have, Sherlock?
Clench, in all honesty, the comment on your level of negativity was spot on. Please think about that for a while and the affect it has on others here.

 This is a good community.

Did trump sign another executive order for people to read and react to posts?

It's just like this, Why do you consistently need to post negative comments on your own teams blog for no reason other than you can? Sure he has a right, as do I to have a response about his posts. I just don't see the point of being blatantly negative for no reason repeatedly.

We don't need to be blindly faithful to the team, but we should have both positive and negative commentary on our FAVORITE team that we follow so closely that we come to a blog forum and spend hours of our lives on.

When a team is second in the East with one All Star and on pace to win 50 games, there should be some level of solid positive commentary that you can have on your FAVORITE team.

Ummmm maybe you shouldn't spend hours of your life on a blog caring about what's said about a team by usernames.  Let's start there.

You realize that we just spent about an hour on this blog commenting about the game. Probably close to two hours. I can guarantee considering the sheer amount of Tps and posts you have had that you probably have spent, as I said, hours on here.

So if you are going to ask me that:
1. Why are you commenting on my post because based on you ideology you shouldn't care about my response?
2. Why are you on here so much as well?

By the way I'm sure you can ask the regulars that I'm rarely on here anymore.
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: fantankerous on February 16, 2017, 11:14:57 PM
As a Looper who attended this game, it was both dissapointing  and understandable.  The mid season doldrums are confusing and annoying.
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: jpotter33 on February 16, 2017, 11:15:19 PM
IT and Smart had some choice words about that last call. IT was much more explicit with it being a "horrible call that cost us the game" than Smart, who pretty much said Jimmy got the foul because he screamed for it and he got punished for playing good D. I still don't see how you can call that a foul but not the steal by Smart on Jimmy the play before, which had much more contact.

https://twitter.com/ByJayKing/status/832441630095466498?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

https://twitter.com/ByJayKing/status/832440512611246080?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: cltc5 on February 16, 2017, 11:15:57 PM
Still shouldn't have come down to that. IT simply can't force 3-4 bad shots in the 4th quarter like he did, and Brad has to go to somebody else occasionally in the 4th. Also, if our incompetent bigs could actually have just rebounded the ball once on one of those last possessions, none of that would've happened.

Do something about these issues, Danny.

My thoughts exactly.

Boston came into this game 10 GAMES better than the Bulls.

Boston was the home team.

Boston shot only 4 of 16 on threes in the second half.

Boston got outrebounded for the game by 20. TWENTY.

This shouldn't have been clinging to a 1-point lead with mere seconds left.

And Smart, being a great defensive player, should be able to contest a shot without getting that close to the shooter's arm.

Bulls were the home team but you know #alternativefacts

HAHA. Oops. My bad!  ;D

Doesn't change my point.

Yep lots of factors.  Still shoulda won but ah well
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: alewilliam789 on February 16, 2017, 11:18:02 PM
IT and Smart had some choice words about that last call. IT was much more explicit with it being a "horrible call that cost us the game" than Smart, who pretty much said Jimmy got the foul because he screamed for it and he got punished for playing good D. I still don't see how you can call that a foul but that the steal by Smart on Jimmy the play before, which had much more contact.

https://twitter.com/ByJayKing/status/832441630095466498?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

https://twitter.com/ByJayKing/status/832440512611246080?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

Yup even if he slightly touched his elbow, it's like a universal unspoken ref rule that you DO NOT EVER make that call that could inevitably influence the outcome of the game directly. 
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: jpotter33 on February 16, 2017, 11:20:57 PM
IT and Smart had some choice words about that last call. IT was much more explicit with it being a "horrible call that cost us the game" than Smart, who pretty much said Jimmy got the foul because he screamed for it and he got punished for playing good D. I still don't see how you can call that a foul but that the steal by Smart on Jimmy the play before, which had much more contact.

https://twitter.com/ByJayKing/status/832441630095466498?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

https://twitter.com/ByJayKing/status/832440512611246080?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

Yup even if he slightly touched his elbow, it's like a universal unspoken ref rule that you DO NOT EVER make that call that could inevitably influence the outcome of the game directly.

For real. And correct me if I'm wrong, but simply TOUCHING the elbow isn't necessarily a foul. A foul must actually AFFECT the shooting motion or ability of the offensive player. If that's the case, then I don't think there's any justification whatsoever for calling that a foul.
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: jpotter33 on February 16, 2017, 11:23:19 PM
And let's also not forget, this was another schedule loss given to us by the league in favor of the Bulls.

We got the Bulls on their opening night on a back to back for our first two games of the season in the first loss, and tonight was also on a back to back and the sixth city in nine nights for us.

Those are both pretty much schedule losses, let alone the several significant injuries we're dealing with and the fact that it's right before the All-Star Break.

EDIT: And to pile on, let's also not forget the Houston game where the refs also directly stole the game from us on the bogus Bradley three call. Took 15 seconds to analyze whether it was a 2 or a 3, yet they did it wrong and ended up costing us the game by losing by 1 point.
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: Smitty77 on February 16, 2017, 11:26:20 PM
Still shouldn't have come down to that. IT simply can't force 3-4 bad shots in the 4th quarter like he did, and Brad has to go to somebody else occasionally in the 4th. Also, if our incompetent bigs could actually have just rebounded the ball once on one of those last possessions, none of that would've happened.

Do something about these issues, Danny.

My thoughts exactly.

Boston came into this game 10 GAMES better than the Bulls.

Boston was the home team.

Boston shot only 4 of 16 on threes in the second half.

Boston got outrebounded for the game by 20. TWENTY.

This shouldn't have been clinging to a 1-point lead with mere seconds left.

And Smart, being a great defensive player, should be able to contest a shot without getting that close to the shooter's arm.

Bulls were the home team but you know #alternativefacts

HAHA. Oops. My bad!  ;D

Doesn't change my point, though. Shouldn't even have been a close game.

We were playing in a back to back and Chicago was NOT!!

Smitty77
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: alewilliam789 on February 16, 2017, 11:29:32 PM
IT and Smart had some choice words about that last call. IT was much more explicit with it being a "horrible call that cost us the game" than Smart, who pretty much said Jimmy got the foul because he screamed for it and he got punished for playing good D. I still don't see how you can call that a foul but that the steal by Smart on Jimmy the play before, which had much more contact.

https://twitter.com/ByJayKing/status/832441630095466498?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

https://twitter.com/ByJayKing/status/832440512611246080?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

Yup even if he slightly touched his elbow, it's like a universal unspoken ref rule that you DO NOT EVER make that call that could inevitably influence the outcome of the game directly.

For real. And correct me if I'm wrong, but simply TOUCHING the elbow isn't necessarily a foul. A foul must actually AFFECT the shooting motion or ability of the offensive player. If that's the case, then I don't think there's any justification whatsoever for calling that a foul.

Well it depends on the type of shot. From personal experience playing basketball, if it's a layup and you knick their elbow, absolutely not. On jumpshots it gets a lot trickier because even if he did slightly nudge his elbow it could dramatically affect a jumpshot making it short. That's probably why they called the foul because the shot was so short and it implied physical contact.

Now on this "foul" specifically? Absolutely not. Smart, if he did even make contact with Butler, it was probably the most miniscule form of contact between a jumpshooter and a defender and compounding the issue it was late. With both this call being the deciding factor and the fact that the there was almost no/minuscule contact between Butler and Smart, it shouldn't have been called
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: MBunge on February 16, 2017, 11:37:52 PM
It's hard to complain about anything else when the Bulls came into this game ready to rollover and play dead if Boston had just supplied a little pressure.  But while the defense has improved a little, the improvement is more situational than consistent.  We try to play good D when we need to, rather than starting with a certain defensive effort as a given.

We've become so good offensively that we can largely get by with that in the regular season, but when we let a team hang around and IT doesn't have an MVP fourth quarter?  This is what happens.

Mike
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: Denis998 on February 16, 2017, 11:41:31 PM
Isaiah and Smart are the true leaders of this team.

Also let it be known, On this day, the Ball Did Lie

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kH0-QR9IzM4
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: nickagneta on February 16, 2017, 11:57:31 PM
Say what you want about whether the Celtics should have taken Chicago but they were fighting an uphill battle from the beginning. This was their 6th game, in their 6th city, in 9 days, playing all without their starting SG, who is their second leading scorer. My guess is this team is pretty darn tired right now. That they were in this game and should have won it if not for a horrible call seems like a pretty positive thing to take away from it all
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: 86MaxwellSmart on February 17, 2017, 12:13:21 AM
All the videos from ground view, looked like Marcus grazed his elbow---but the overhead camera showed he did NOT touch him.

https://twitter.com/psucarney/status/832432657535492102

Watch how the ref waits for the shot to miss before he blows the whistle---and CLEARLY from this angle, there was no contact from Marcus.
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: knuckleballer on February 17, 2017, 12:24:11 AM
All the videos from ground view, looked like Marcus grazed his elbow---but the overhead camera showed he did NOT touch him.

https://twitter.com/psucarney/status/832432657535492102

Watch how the ref waits for the shot to miss before he blows the whistle---and CLEARLY from this angle, there was no contact from Marcus.

Making a bad call is one thing, but waiting until after the shot missed to call the foul is reprehensible.  The league should suspend him for that.
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: jpotter33 on February 17, 2017, 12:29:01 AM
All the videos from ground view, looked like Marcus grazed his elbow---but the overhead camera showed he did NOT touch him.

https://twitter.com/psucarney/status/832432657535492102

Watch how the ref waits for the shot to miss before he blows the whistle---and CLEARLY from this angle, there was no contact from Marcus.

Where's the aerial view? I don't think I've seen that one yet. Regardless, it's pretty ridiculous, and the ref clearly waited for the shot to miss before calling. That's just terrible, and I'm glad both IT and Smart called him out on that. I hope IT makes an even bigger fuss about it when it comes out by the NBA that it was the wrong call.

Just the millionth example of why we need at least one coach's challenges a game - to stop incompetent officiating like this from influencing the results of the game.
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: KG Living Legend on February 17, 2017, 12:29:52 AM
All the videos from ground view, looked like Marcus grazed his elbow---but the overhead camera showed he did NOT touch him.

https://twitter.com/psucarney/status/832432657535492102

Watch how the ref waits for the shot to miss before he blows the whistle---and CLEARLY from this angle, there was no contact from Marcus.



 Omg Max! That angle is horrendous!  I'm going to put that Ref on my Punch him in a dark Alley list!

 +1
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: Monkhouse on February 17, 2017, 12:45:51 AM
Say what you want about whether the Celtics should have taken Chicago but they were fighting an uphill battle from the beginning. This was their 6th game, in their 6th city, in 9 days, playing all without their starting SG, who is their second leading scorer. My guess is this team is pretty darn tired right now. That they were in this game and should have won it if not for a horrible call seems like a pretty positive thing to take away from it all

Being heavily out rebounded, and the fact we had some really sloppy turnovers, I definitely do agree the fact we almost stole this game literally one bad foul call away should give our team some props.

We came away with a loss, but man was it a frustrating and nail biting one.
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: angryguy77 on February 17, 2017, 12:55:05 AM
Celts are to blame for not executing down the stretch.  However, there is 0 excuse for the ref to make that call. I've seen guys get abused at that point in the game and not get sent to the line. In fact, I expect that type of play to be allowed given how much I've seen that happen.

This call is an illustration of why the NBA is considered a joke by so many.  I get refs will miss a call, but there is 0 excuse for that one to be made. This crew should be suspended for a few games. But that won't happen.
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: 86MaxwellSmart on February 17, 2017, 12:56:54 AM
Celts are to blame for not executing down the stretch.  However, there is 0 excuse for the ref to make that call. I've seen guys get abused at that point in the game and not get sent to the line. In fact, I expect that type of play to be allowed given how much I've seen that happen.

This call is an illustration of why the NBA is considered a joke by so many.  I get refs will miss a call, but there is 0 excuse for that one to be made. This crew should be suspended for a few games. But that won't happen.

Should give each coach a Challenge on fouls...at least 1 a game.
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: makaveli on February 17, 2017, 04:11:08 AM
i wish i heard tommy calling this one, horendus call, one of the worst in the whole season
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: RockinRyA on February 17, 2017, 06:09:38 AM
Say what you want about whether the Celtics should have taken Chicago but they were fighting an uphill battle from the beginning. This was their 6th game, in their 6th city, in 9 days, playing all without their starting SG, who is their second leading scorer. My guess is this team is pretty darn tired right now. That they were in this game and should have won it if not for a horrible call seems like a pretty positive thing to take away from it all

Yup. Same sentiments as usual nick. TP
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: Irish Stew on February 17, 2017, 06:20:24 AM
All I took out of this game is that we are probably going to really struggle with our late game half court offense during the playoffs without a true second option.
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: Celtics4ever on February 17, 2017, 06:26:16 AM
Hard to win, when three of our starters scored in single digits.  Horford, Crowder and Marcus shot poorly.

You take a chance when you let the game be close enough for the refs to decide it.  It happens sometimes  folks.   

This is why I think Ainge should make a move. I think we are a great team to watch every night but we have our warts.  We got outrebounded by 20, and he needs to get a big.
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: RockinRyA on February 17, 2017, 07:26:29 AM
All I took out of this game is that we are probably going to really struggle with our late game half court offense during the playoffs without a true second option.

Our second option is injured. That's not the problem, its the rebounding.
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: TomHeinsohn on February 17, 2017, 07:36:23 AM
Smart should not have lingered on the court - he needs to avoid anything that will damage or perpetuate the perception that NBA refs seem to hold on him. Bad move by a great player.
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: ssspence on February 17, 2017, 07:55:40 AM
This is why I think Ainge should make a move.

I don't think the context of this game is evidence of why the Cs should make a move right now. Any move should be on the basis of getting closer to winning a title, and most of the conditions of this game are not particularly reflective of that.

We got outrebounded by 20, and he needs to get a big.

2008 team was a sub-par rebounding team too. Yes, it'd be good to improve this area, but a knee jerk trade for a rebounder who rings not much else would be a waste.
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: Trifecta on February 17, 2017, 08:14:16 AM
This is why I think Ainge should make a move.

I don't think the context of this game is evidence of why the Cs should make a move right now. Any move should be on the basis of getting closer to winning a title, and most of the conditions of this game are not particularly reflective of that.

We got outrebounded by 20, and he needs to get a big.

2008 team was a sub-par rebounding team too. Yes, it'd be good to improve this area, but a knee jerk trade for a rebounder who rings not much else would be a waste.

The 08 team was an average rebounding team (12th in RPG) but they were 3rd in rebounding margin.. In comparison, this year's team is 28th in RPG and 26th in differential.. I agree with you though, a move for just a rebounder wouldn't make much sense.
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: ssspence on February 17, 2017, 08:33:48 AM
This is why I think Ainge should make a move.

I don't think the context of this game is evidence of why the Cs should make a move right now. Any move should be on the basis of getting closer to winning a title, and most of the conditions of this game are not particularly reflective of that.

We got outrebounded by 20, and he needs to get a big.

2008 team was a sub-par rebounding team too. Yes, it'd be good to improve this area, but a knee jerk trade for a rebounder who rings not much else would be a waste.

The 08 team was an average rebounding team (12th in RPG) but they were 3rd in rebounding margin.. In comparison, this year's team is 28th in RPG and 26th in differential.. I agree with you though, a move for just a rebounder wouldn't make much sense.

I know they're worse this year than 2008. But we're still a worse team than that team, obviously. We're saying the same thing, I think -- we're not one move away. Adding PJ Brown isn't going to get us over the hump. We still need star players on this team, and meaningful assets shouldn't be wasted on marginally players.

Exhibit A: Passing on Serge Ibaka was 100% the right move.
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: Humble G on February 17, 2017, 08:41:02 AM
I agree with that a Rebounding Big would greatly help but we cannot afford a knee jerk reaction trade that hurts us in the long run.

As weird as this seems typing, The thing to remember is we have been without our best rebounder;Avery Bradley. He leads the team with 6.9, Horford 2nd with 6.6.
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: ssspence on February 17, 2017, 08:58:14 AM
I agree with that a Rebounding Big would greatly help but we cannot afford a knee jerk reaction trade that hurts us in the long run.

As weird as this seems typing, The thing to remember is we have been without our best rebounder;Avery Bradley. He leads the team with 6.9, Horford 2nd with 6.6.

Ha, excellent point. Tp.
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: gift on February 17, 2017, 09:01:40 AM
The call at the end was the worst I've seen in a long time. Can't remember a worse one off the top of my head.
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: Surferdad on February 17, 2017, 09:03:35 AM
Say what you want about whether the Celtics should have taken Chicago but they were fighting an uphill battle from the beginning. This was their 6th game, in their 6th city, in 9 days, playing all without their starting SG, who is their second leading scorer. My guess is this team is pretty darn tired right now. That they were in this game and should have won it if not for a horrible call seems like a pretty positive thing to take away from it all
Second leading scorer and leading rebounder, AB is.

Wow, didn't realize it was their 6th city in 9 days.
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: RockinRyA on February 17, 2017, 09:12:06 AM
Hard to win, when three of our starters scored in single digits.  Horford, Crowder and Marcus shot poorly.

You take a chance when you let the game be close enough for the refs to decide it.  It happens sometimes  folks.   

This is why I think Ainge should make a move. I think we are a great team to watch every night but we have our warts.  We got outrebounded by 20, and he needs to get a big.

Crowder has played poorly in this road trip (at least in the games he played)
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: Billz401 on February 17, 2017, 09:13:14 AM
https://youtu.be/gFSYcV525pc
For those who would like another look at the Phantom Foul frame by frame. Also watch the ref on the baseline who made the call watch the ball all the way until it bricks and then calls the foul. Also for what it's worth the spread was -1 celtics
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: A Future of Stevens on February 17, 2017, 09:15:37 AM
When I watched sportscenter this morning, it honestly looked like contact was made on the elbow. Granted that call isn't made 99/100 times, and the ref totally watched to see if it went in, but by the rules it looked like a foul.

However, I am convinced if the exact same motions were made by a "superstar" we wouldn't be having this discussion. For example, if it was LBJ, people would be talking about how his defense won the game on the last play, like Smarts should have.
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: celtics2030 on February 17, 2017, 09:50:58 AM
This is why I think Ainge should make a move.

I don't think the context of this game is evidence of why the Cs should make a move right now. Any move should be on the basis of getting closer to winning a title, and most of the conditions of this game are not particularly reflective of that.

We got outrebounded by 20, and he needs to get a big.

2008 team was a sub-par rebounding team too. Yes, it'd be good to improve this area, but a knee jerk trade for a rebounder who rings not much else would be a waste.

The 08 team was an average rebounding team (12th in RPG) but they were 3rd in rebounding margin.. In comparison, this year's team is 28th in RPG and 26th in differential.. I agree with you though, a move for just a rebounder wouldn't make much sense.

Those teams year by year were told to get back on defense and not go for any offensive rebounds. IM guessing 1 or 2 rebounds more a game added to those would have made that 08 team a top 5 rebounding team
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: Smitty77 on February 17, 2017, 09:51:10 AM
I sent this email to a friend of mine:

I would have helped IF we had NOT got out-rebounded by 20!!!  Hello Danny, were YOU watching??

That being said, Horford ONLY had 2 Edited.  Profanity and masked profanity are against forum rules and may result in discipline.ing rebounds and had a PER of 6.  Crowder had a PER of 3 and was 0-3 from three!!!

That being said, this was a back to back for us and we were playing in our 6th city in 9 days!!!!!  No AB and no Jaylen (you can diss him all you want to, but he was (is) coming around and is a solid defender that could have really helped vs. Butler!!!!).

Good news is that we are still 17 games OVER .500 and still in 2nd place in the East (barely) and AB is supposed to be back after the break and we ONLY have 12 more road games and ONLY 4 back to backs left.  Cleveland has 15 more road games left and 7 back to backs.  Washington has 17 more road games and 6 back to backs.

We better take advantage of those FACTS.

And, Danny, please HUMOR us and get us a rebounder on or by February 23rd!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Smitty77
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: Celtics4ever on February 17, 2017, 03:52:28 PM
Quote
I don't think the context of this game is evidence of why the Cs should make a move right now. Any move should be on the basis of getting closer to winning a title, and most of the conditions of this game are not particularly reflective of that.

If you can't see we got pounded on the boards by 20 rebounds then I truly feel sorry for you.  Do you really think that we can win a title with the team as it stands.   I will remind Carslisle said that we could reach the finals, he did not say we could win it.

Quote
2008 team was a sub-par rebounding team too. Yes, it'd be good to improve this area, but a knee jerk trade for a rebounder who rings not much else would be a waste.

This is not the 2008 team.  That team had three surefire Hall of Famers, we have perhaps one now.    They were clear favorites we are not now.   It is a utterly  irrelevent comparison of apples and oranges.  Our compostion is nothing like that team.   What the heck were you thinking man?

BTW, I did not say anything about a rebounder who only rebounds.  I said we need a big.  .   I think we need a big, even Ainge admits this but I think we are looking for a skilled one.
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: bdm860 on February 17, 2017, 04:51:03 PM
Last 2 minute report.

http://official.nba.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/4/2017/02/L2M-BOS-CHI-02-16-17.pdf

It was the correct call for the Smart foul on Butler and the correct no call on Horford's last second shot attempt.
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: saltlover on February 17, 2017, 04:53:39 PM
Last 2 minute report.

http://official.nba.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/4/2017/02/L2M-BOS-CHI-02-16-17.pdf

It was the correct call for the Smart foul on Butler and the correct call no call on Horford's last second shot attempt.

Of course it was...
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: Irish Stew on February 17, 2017, 05:37:57 PM
All I took out of this game is that we are probably going to really struggle with our late game half court offense during the playoffs without a true second option.

Our second option is injured. That's not the problem, its the rebounding.

 Bradley has not been nor will he ever be a true second option for a deep playoff team/contender. He is, however, a fine two-way complementary player.
Title: Re: Celtics (37-19) at Bulls (27-29) Game #57 2/16/17
Post by: Rondo9 on February 17, 2017, 05:49:16 PM
All I took out of this game is that we are probably going to really struggle with our late game half court offense during the playoffs without a true second option.

Our second option is injured. That's not the problem, its the rebounding.

 Bradley has not been nor will he ever be a true second option for a deep playoff team/contender. He is, however, a fine two-way complementary player.

But he's their 2nd leading scorer who would've helped this team in the game.