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Around the League => The Draft => Topic started by: KG Living Legend on January 29, 2017, 01:10:43 AM
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I'd like to talk about Jackson joining the Celtics.
Crowder and Brown looked great playing together. Is there room for Jackson to play major minutes.
I love Jackson. Stevens would too. He might like him better than Brown based on his defensive effort which is awesome.
What a difficult decision for Ainge. So many different ways to build this team.
Jackson/Crowder/Brown would be a handful for years to come for other teams.
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Wanted to add that more than any other player in this draft, Jackson is a grind it out for 48 mins type of guy.
When you keep adding guys like Smart, Jackson, Brown, Crowder, Bradley. Your gonna be tough to beat.
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With his defensive intensity, he's definitely a Celtics type of player.
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20 points 10 guards and the best player on the court vs Kentucky, and Kansas won.
Side note 5 Kansas players are witnesses to a alleged rape case of a 16 year old on Kansas campus or just off campus.
No discipline yet, we will wait for more details in the coming days.
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I really think people on here need to cool their jets about Boston getting the 1st pick this draft as even if Brooklyn finishes with the best odds, we still have a greater chance at getting the 4th pick than the 1st, in reality Josh Jackson may be the best we can get as he seems to be ranked 4th-5th range atm so more discussions about players like Jackson, Tatum, Fox ect... the better.
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Striking out on Fultz could be a blessing in disguise. Just like we strike out on Ingram and Simmons because Jaylen is looking better than Ingram in limited minutes and Simmons has yet to play.
Fultz have yet to impress me. He got handles and scoring, but can he consistently put up stats without the ball and compete against tougher competition?
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With his defensive intensity, he's definitely a Celtics type of player.
absolutely
He is also underrated on the offensive end. I believe with practice he can make open 3s/FTs with consistentcy. Already a heck of a ball handler, passer
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nvm
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Would absolutely love this guy. I will be extremely OK with missing out on the #1 or #2 pick in the draft as long as we can get #3. Any of Fultz, Ball, Jackson I'd be extremely happy with, but Jackson is the one I'm most excited about.
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I really think people on here need to cool their jets about Boston getting the 1st pick this draft as even if Brooklyn finishes with the best odds, we still have a greater chance at getting the 4th pick than the 1st, in reality Josh Jackson may be the best we can get as he seems to be ranked 4th-5th range atm so more discussions about players like Jackson, Tatum, Fox ect... the better.
Why can't you let them dream about the 1st pick. Do you ruin Christmas for kids too?
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Dare I say Jackson reminds me of Lebron? A thinner version
Those drive and dish offs are Lebronesque... has the "it" factor
What a comeback thanks to Jackson
https://www.youtube.com/shared?ci=0Zg7o9KKdMg
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Dare I say Jackson reminds me of Lebron? A thinner version
Those drive and dish offs are Lebronesque... has the "it" factor
What a comeback vs Kentucky thanks to Jackson
Dare I say Jackson reminds me of Lebron? A thinner version
Those drive and dish offs are Lebronesque... has the "it" factor
What a comeback thanks to Jackson
https://www.youtube.com/shared?ci=0Zg7o9KKdMg
You shouldnt say that. Not if you want anyone to take your posts seriously.
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Dare I say Jackson reminds me of Lebron? A thinner version
Those drive and dish offs are Lebronesque... has the "it" factor
What a comeback vs Kentucky thanks to Jackson
Dare I say Jackson reminds me of Lebron? A thinner version
Those drive and dish offs are Lebronesque... has the "it" factor
What a comeback thanks to Jackson
https://www.youtube.com/shared?ci=0Zg7o9KKdMg
You shouldnt say that. Not if you want anyone to take your posts seriously.
So tell me. What other explosive forward in the nba is able to drive past his man in an iso situation and dish off to the open man under the basket? Who does this remind you of?
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Mods, please change this to Josh Jackson Hype Thread.
Seriously, I like him, but Lebron he is not.
A better Matt Barnes he is. Smart. Plays hard. Physical. Hitched jumpshot. Good passer. Athletic.
Starter upside. Fringe all-star upside.
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Dare I say Jackson reminds me of Lebron? A thinner version
Those drive and dish offs are Lebronesque... has the "it" factor
What a comeback vs Kentucky thanks to Jackson
Dare I say Jackson reminds me of Lebron? A thinner version
Those drive and dish offs are Lebronesque... has the "it" factor
What a comeback thanks to Jackson
https://www.youtube.com/shared?ci=0Zg7o9KKdMg
You shouldnt say that. Not if you want anyone to take your posts seriously.
So tell me. What other explosive forward in the nba is able to drive past his man in an iso situation and dish off to the open man under the basket? Who does this move remind you of?
No one jumps off the page to me.
Comparing him to Lebron is ridiculous.
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Dare I say Jackson reminds me of Lebron? A thinner version
Those drive and dish offs are Lebronesque... has the "it" factor
What a comeback vs Kentucky thanks to Jackson
Dare I say Jackson reminds me of Lebron? A thinner version
Those drive and dish offs are Lebronesque... has the "it" factor
What a comeback thanks to Jackson
https://www.youtube.com/shared?ci=0Zg7o9KKdMg
You shouldnt say that. Not if you want anyone to take your posts seriously.
So tell me. What other explosive forward in the nba is able to drive past his man in an iso situation and dish off to the open man under the basket? Who does this remind you of?
Remeber that JJ is in the NCAA, not NBA.
He reminds me of Winslow. With better court sense and worse defense. More explosiveness, less strenght.
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Before the season Jackson was known as someone with great ability in all dimensions of basketball, except shooting he sucked majorly. This is no small flaw.
But, I just checked his stats today and his 3 point shooting is now at 32.7%. Not good, but improved over his earlier numbers.
If he can really shoot, then he might go number one in the draft.
This bears watching.
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Dare I say Jackson reminds me of Lebron? A thinner version
Those drive and dish offs are Lebronesque... has the "it" factor
What a comeback vs Kentucky thanks to Jackson
Dare I say Jackson reminds me of Lebron? A thinner version
Those drive and dish offs are Lebronesque... has the "it" factor
What a comeback thanks to Jackson
https://www.youtube.com/shared?ci=0Zg7o9KKdMg
You shouldnt say that. Not if you want anyone to take your posts seriously.
So tell me. What other explosive forward in the nba is able to drive past his man in an iso situation and dish off to the open man under the basket? Who does this remind you of?
Remeber that JJ is in the NCAA, not NBA.
He reminds me of Winslow. With better court sense and worse defense. More explosiveness, less strenght.
Ah. A more explosive, weaker Justice Winslow is actually a really good comp. I loved Winslow out of Duke. Still think hes gonna be a really nice player.
They guy Jackson reminds me of the most is Terrence Williams+ an inch or two and way improved finishing ability around the rim.
Jackson could be a star. He could feasibly even be a superstar. Lebron James? please.
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Before the season Jackson was known as someone with great ability in all dimensions of basketball, except shooting he sucked majorly. This is no small flaw.
But, I just checked his stats today and his 3 point shooting is now at 32.7%. Not good, but improved over his earlier numbers.
If he can really shoot, then he might go number one in the draft.
This bears watching.
Agree it's all about his shot. With a good one he's number 1. With a below average one he's around pick 4.
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Before the season Jackson was known as someone with great ability in all dimensions of basketball, except shooting he sucked majorly. This is no small flaw.
But, I just checked his stats today and his 3 point shooting is now at 32.7%. Not good, but improved over his earlier numbers.
If he can really shoot, then he might go number one in the draft.
This bears watching.
Agree it's all about his shot. With a good one he's number 1. With a below average one he's around pick 4.
Last 3 games he is 8 for 15 from 3 pt land
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Dare I say Jackson reminds me of Lebron? A thinner version
Those drive and dish offs are Lebronesque... has the "it" factor
What a comeback vs Kentucky thanks to Jackson
Dare I say Jackson reminds me of Lebron? A thinner version
Those drive and dish offs are Lebronesque... has the "it" factor
What a comeback thanks to Jackson
https://www.youtube.com/shared?ci=0Zg7o9KKdMg
You shouldnt say that. Not if you want anyone to take your posts seriously.
So tell me. What other explosive forward in the nba is able to drive past his man in an iso situation and dish off to the open man under the basket? Who does this remind you of?
Remeber that JJ is in the NCAA, not NBA.
He reminds me of Winslow. With better court sense and worse defense. More explosiveness, less strenght.
How does a Jackson to Winslow comparison make sense?
Winslow is like 6'5. He can dunk in space. Lots of space. Jackson is an explosive freak. Winslow dreams one day he can handle/drive by his man like Jackson.
Compare Winslow to Smart or Crowder. Not Jackson
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Dare I say Jackson reminds me of Lebron? A thinner version
Those drive and dish offs are Lebronesque... has the "it" factor
What a comeback vs Kentucky thanks to Jackson
Dare I say Jackson reminds me of Lebron? A thinner version
Those drive and dish offs are Lebronesque... has the "it" factor
What a comeback thanks to Jackson
https://www.youtube.com/shared?ci=0Zg7o9KKdMg
You shouldnt say that. Not if you want anyone to take your posts seriously.
So tell me. What other explosive forward in the nba is able to drive past his man in an iso situation and dish off to the open man under the basket? Who does this remind you of?
Remeber that JJ is in the NCAA, not NBA.
He reminds me of Winslow. With better court sense and worse defense. More explosiveness, less strenght.
How does a Jackson to Winslow comparison make sense?
Winslow is like 6'5. He can dunk in space. Lots of space. Jackson is an explosive freak. Winslow dreams one day he can handle/drive by his man like Jackson.
Compare Winslow to Smart or Crowder. Not Jackson
In fairness, he's not an explosive freak. Gerald Green is. T-max was. Carter was. Lebron was. Wiggins is.
Jackson is not on that level, although he will be a good athlete compared to other NBA players.
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Dare I say Jackson reminds me of Lebron? A thinner version
Those drive and dish offs are Lebronesque... has the "it" factor
What a comeback vs Kentucky thanks to Jackson
Dare I say Jackson reminds me of Lebron? A thinner version
Those drive and dish offs are Lebronesque... has the "it" factor
What a comeback thanks to Jackson
https://www.youtube.com/shared?ci=0Zg7o9KKdMg
You shouldnt say that. Not if you want anyone to take your posts seriously.
So tell me. What other explosive forward in the nba is able to drive past his man in an iso situation and dish off to the open man under the basket? Who does this remind you of?
Remeber that JJ is in the NCAA, not NBA.
He reminds me of Winslow. With better court sense and worse defense. More explosiveness, less strenght.
How does a Jackson to Winslow comparison make sense?
Winslow is like 6'5. He can dunk in space. Lots of space. Jackson is an explosive freak. Winslow dreams one day he can handle/drive by his man like Jackson.
Compare Winslow to Smart or Crowder. Not Jackson
winslow-->Jackson is similar in terms of athleticism to Jackson-->James
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Dare I say Jackson reminds me of Lebron? A thinner version
Those drive and dish offs are Lebronesque... has the "it" factor
What a comeback vs Kentucky thanks to Jackson
Dare I say Jackson reminds me of Lebron? A thinner version
Those drive and dish offs are Lebronesque... has the "it" factor
What a comeback thanks to Jackson
https://www.youtube.com/shared?ci=0Zg7o9KKdMg
You shouldnt say that. Not if you want anyone to take your posts seriously.
So tell me. What other explosive forward in the nba is able to drive past his man in an iso situation and dish off to the open man under the basket? Who does this remind you of?
Remeber that JJ is in the NCAA, not NBA.
He reminds me of Winslow. With better court sense and worse defense. More explosiveness, less strenght.
How does a Jackson to Winslow comparison make sense?
Winslow is like 6'5. He can dunk in space. Lots of space. Jackson is an explosive freak. Winslow dreams one day he can handle/drive by his man like Jackson.
Compare Winslow to Smart or Crowder. Not Jackson
In fairness, he's not an explosive freak. Gerald Green is. T-max was. Carter was. Lebron was. Wiggins is.
Jackson is not on that level, although he will be a good athlete compared to other NBA players.
Are you joking? He is every bit the athlete as some you listed. Watch below ....
https://www.youtube.com/shared?ci=WVpMmAi2ILs
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Dare I say Jackson reminds me of Lebron? A thinner version
Those drive and dish offs are Lebronesque... has the "it" factor
What a comeback vs Kentucky thanks to Jackson
Dare I say Jackson reminds me of Lebron? A thinner version
Those drive and dish offs are Lebronesque... has the "it" factor
What a comeback thanks to Jackson
https://www.youtube.com/shared?ci=0Zg7o9KKdMg
You shouldnt say that. Not if you want anyone to take your posts seriously.
So tell me. What other explosive forward in the nba is able to drive past his man in an iso situation and dish off to the open man under the basket? Who does this remind you of?
Remeber that JJ is in the NCAA, not NBA.
He reminds me of Winslow. With better court sense and worse defense. More explosiveness, less strenght.
How does a Jackson to Winslow comparison make sense?
Winslow is like 6'5. He can dunk in space. Lots of space. Jackson is an explosive freak. Winslow dreams one day he can handle/drive by his man like Jackson.
Compare Winslow to Smart or Crowder. Not Jackson
In fairness, he's not an explosive freak. Gerald Green is. T-max was. Carter was. Lebron was. Wiggins is.
Jackson is not on that level, although he will be a good athlete compared to other NBA players.
Are you joking? He is every bit the athlete as some you listed. Watch below ....
https://www.youtube.com/shared?ci=WVpMmAi2ILs
It's a good dunk, but it's not the same as those other guys. When you realize that he has a funky jumpshot and he is not as good of a shooter as those other (more athletic) guys I listed at the same age, it seems like he has a lower ceiling than some of the other guys.
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Dare I say Jackson reminds me of Lebron? A thinner version
Those drive and dish offs are Lebronesque... has the "it" factor
What a comeback vs Kentucky thanks to Jackson
Dare I say Jackson reminds me of Lebron? A thinner version
Those drive and dish offs are Lebronesque... has the "it" factor
What a comeback thanks to Jackson
https://www.youtube.com/shared?ci=0Zg7o9KKdMg
You shouldnt say that. Not if you want anyone to take your posts seriously.
So tell me. What other explosive forward in the nba is able to drive past his man in an iso situation and dish off to the open man under the basket? Who does this remind you of?
Remeber that JJ is in the NCAA, not NBA.
He reminds me of Winslow. With better court sense and worse defense. More explosiveness, less strenght.
How does a Jackson to Winslow comparison make sense?
Winslow is like 6'5. He can dunk in space. Lots of space. Jackson is an explosive freak. Winslow dreams one day he can handle/drive by his man like Jackson.
Compare Winslow to Smart or Crowder. Not Jackson
In fairness, he's not an explosive freak. Gerald Green is. T-max was. Carter was. Lebron was. Wiggins is.
Jackson is not on that level, although he will be a good athlete compared to other NBA players.
Are you joking? He is every bit the athlete as some you listed. Watch below ....
https://www.youtube.com/shared?ci=WVpMmAi2ILs
Its a nice dunk and he is a very good athlete, but comparing him to Lebron James is insulting to one of the two greatest players of all time.
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Dare I say Jackson reminds me of Lebron? A thinner version
Those drive and dish offs are Lebronesque... has the "it" factor
What a comeback vs Kentucky thanks to Jackson
Dare I say Jackson reminds me of Lebron? A thinner version
Those drive and dish offs are Lebronesque... has the "it" factor
What a comeback thanks to Jackson
https://www.youtube.com/shared?ci=0Zg7o9KKdMg
You shouldnt say that. Not if you want anyone to take your posts seriously.
So tell me. What other explosive forward in the nba is able to drive past his man in an iso situation and dish off to the open man under the basket? Who does this remind you of?
Remeber that JJ is in the NCAA, not NBA.
He reminds me of Winslow. With better court sense and worse defense. More explosiveness, less strenght.
How does a Jackson to Winslow comparison make sense?
Winslow is like 6'5. He can dunk in space. Lots of space. Jackson is an explosive freak. Winslow dreams one day he can handle/drive by his man like Jackson.
Compare Winslow to Smart or Crowder. Not Jackson
In fairness, he's not an explosive freak. Gerald Green is. T-max was. Carter was. Lebron was. Wiggins is.
Jackson is not on that level, although he will be a good athlete compared to other NBA players.
Are you joking? He is every bit the athlete as some you listed. Watch below ....
https://www.youtube.com/shared?ci=WVpMmAi2ILs
Its a nice dunk and he is a very good athlete, but comparing him to Lebron James is insulting to one of the two greatest players of all time.
Let me ask you. How did anybody know Lebron was going to turn out to be this good?
Just by watching HS ball?? There are many High Schoolers that look every bit as impressive as Lebron prior to College ....
My point is, nobody knew KG was going to turn out like he did or Lebron turn out like he did
I'm not saying Jackson will be good as Lebron.... I even said a thinner version (which is not as powerful as the man beast version). But Jackson and Lebron do share several similarities. Ball Handling, Passing, versatile defense to name a few. And both are not sharpshooters .... Lebron has turned into a semi decent shooter in the recent 5 years since the start of his career
I would like to compare Jackson to another player...but there are none. He is not really like Leonard. Certainly not like Matt Barnes. If you can name a more accurate player to compare Jackson to, I will take that
again watch these two plays and tell me, this is not Lebronesque. And in addition which other forwards in the league can pull this off in crunch time.
At 3:50 and 4:18
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pIgGrhUU-Ks
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I would not be disappointed if we took him third after Ball and Fultz.
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Dare I say Jackson reminds me of Lebron? A thinner version
Those drive and dish offs are Lebronesque... has the "it" factor
What a comeback vs Kentucky thanks to Jackson
Dare I say Jackson reminds me of Lebron? A thinner version
Those drive and dish offs are Lebronesque... has the "it" factor
What a comeback thanks to Jackson
https://www.youtube.com/shared?ci=0Zg7o9KKdMg
You shouldnt say that. Not if you want anyone to take your posts seriously.
So tell me. What other explosive forward in the nba is able to drive past his man in an iso situation and dish off to the open man under the basket? Who does this remind you of?
Remeber that JJ is in the NCAA, not NBA.
He reminds me of Winslow. With better court sense and worse defense. More explosiveness, less strenght.
How does a Jackson to Winslow comparison make sense?
Winslow is like 6'5. He can dunk in space. Lots of space. Jackson is an explosive freak. Winslow dreams one day he can handle/drive by his man like Jackson.
Compare Winslow to Smart or Crowder. Not Jackson
In fairness, he's not an explosive freak. Gerald Green is. T-max was. Carter was. Lebron was. Wiggins is.
Jackson is not on that level, although he will be a good athlete compared to other NBA players.
Are you joking? He is every bit the athlete as some you listed. Watch below ....
https://www.youtube.com/shared?ci=WVpMmAi2ILs
Its a nice dunk and he is a very good athlete, but comparing him to Lebron James is insulting to one of the two greatest players of all time.
Let me ask you. How did anybody know Lebron was going to turn out to be this good?
Just by watching HS ball?? There are many High Schoolers that look every bit as impressive as Lebron prior to College ....
My point is, nobody knew KG was going to turn out like he did or Lebron turn out like he did
I'm not saying Jackson will be good as Lebron.... I even said a thinner version (which is not as powerful as the man beast version). But Jackson and Lebron do share several similarities. Ball Handling, Passing, versatile defense to name a few. And both are not sharpshooters .... Lebron has turned into a semi decent shooter in the recent 5 years since the start of his career
I would like to compare Jackson to another player...but there are none. He is not really like Leonard. Certainly not like Matt Barnes. If you can name a more accurate player to compare Jackson to, I will take that
again watch these two plays and tell me, this is not Lebronesque. And in addition which other forwards in the league can pull this off in crunch time.
At 3:50 and 4:18
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pIgGrhUU-Ks
Lebron was probably the most hyped player of the past 30 years.
I would advise you not to compare him to anyone if the best comp you can come up with is Lebron. Jackson is a good passer, but hes not the brilliant mind James is. At 19 years old James put up an a/to ratio of 5.9:3.5 in the NBA. Jackson is 3.1:2.5 in college.
Lebron is also far more explosive.
So yeah, the Lebron comp is good if you restrict it to athleticism handle and passing, then acknowledge that Lebron was much better at passing and was a much better athlete.
then its a fine comp.
Jimmy Butler is perhaps a better comparison, but even that seems a bit strained. When you compare a 19 year old kid to Lebron James you make yourself look foolish.
I like Jackson a lot, but I wouldnt compare anyone in the last 10 drafts, to Lebron James.
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I love how people knock Jackson's competition but praise Fultz in a much worse conference.
But lets not crown Jackson as the next Lebron yet.
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I would not be disappointed if we took him third after Ball and Fultz.
I would.
Can anyone explain how he differs from Jaylen Brown (who is already not his roster)? An elite athlete who puts 110% effort, especially one defense, but can't shoot.
I'll admit I haven't watched any college ball this year but I have been reading reports constantly about the top players from summer until now.
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If you can name a more accurate player to compare Jackson to, I will take that
Some people actually compared his game to Grant Hill, but I wouldn't go that far either.
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I would not be disappointed if we took him third after Ball and Fultz.
I would.
Can anyone explain how he differs from Jaylen Brown (who is already not his roster)? An elite athlete who puts 110% effort, especially one defense, but can't shoot.
I'll admit I haven't watched any college ball this year but I have been reading reports constantly about the top players from summer until now.
there were some questions about Browns BBIQ, whereas Jackson has brilliant court vision and projects as a very good passer. Brown struggled at the rim, while Jackson is very good at finishing. Brown has a ton of potential on defense based on his physical profile, Jackson is already a good defender and his physical profile will allow him to get better. Also, Brown had serious questions about his handle, while Jacksons is more advanced and hes more creative getting to the rim.
Brown has a more fixable jumper and a better frame to pack on muscle/strength. Brown is also longer, despite being about 2 inches shorter.
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Brown is more raw than Jackson but he's projected to be a better shooter in the long run and fits better at the 2 spot in his young career. Jackson is the more refined player and better leader but both have the killer factor in them.
Brown = the silent but cold-blooded assasin
Jackson = The KG/Draymond type intense player.
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I would not be disappointed if we took him third after Ball and Fultz.
I would.
Can anyone explain how he differs from Jaylen Brown (who is already not his roster)? An elite athlete who puts 110% effort, especially one defense, but can't shoot.
I'll admit I haven't watched any college ball this year but I have been reading reports constantly about the top players from summer until now.
Better playmaker, motor, and defender. I think Brown's shot is fundamentally sound, though. Jackson's is not.
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Dare I say Jackson reminds me of Lebron? A thinner version
Those drive and dish offs are Lebronesque... has the "it" factor
What a comeback vs Kentucky thanks to Jackson
Dare I say Jackson reminds me of Lebron? A thinner version
Those drive and dish offs are Lebronesque... has the "it" factor
What a comeback thanks to Jackson
https://www.youtube.com/shared?ci=0Zg7o9KKdMg
You shouldnt say that. Not if you want anyone to take your posts seriously.
So tell me. What other explosive forward in the nba is able to drive past his man in an iso situation and dish off to the open man under the basket? Who does this remind you of?
Remeber that JJ is in the NCAA, not NBA.
He reminds me of Winslow. With better court sense and worse defense. More explosiveness, less strenght.
How does a Jackson to Winslow comparison make sense?
Winslow is like 6'5. He can dunk in space. Lots of space. Jackson is an explosive freak. Winslow dreams one day he can handle/drive by his man like Jackson.
Compare Winslow to Smart or Crowder. Not Jackson
Yeah no offense, but that's a horrible comp.
Sometimes you don't need to make comps. Jackson is unique and a hell of a prospect.
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Brown is more raw than Jackson but he's projected to be a better shooter in the long run and fits better at the 2 spot in his young career. Jackson is the more refined player and better leader but both have the killer factor in them.
Brown = the silent but cold-blooded assasin
Jackson = The KG/Draymond type intense player.
If Brown develops his shot, the two could be absolutely terrifying together on both sides of the ball.
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Brown is more raw than Jackson but he's projected to be a better shooter in the long run and fits better at the 2 spot in his young career. Jackson is the more refined player and better leader but both have the killer factor in them.
Brown = the silent but cold-blooded assasin
Jackson = The KG/Draymond type intense player.
If Brown develops his shot, the two could be absolutely terrifying together on both sides of the ball.
Brown has proven he can make the open 3. 3 in crunch time
What more do people expect?
His game does not resolve around shooting the ball. He is more effective driving, operating from the post, transition buckets
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As long as jackson and brown dont shoot poorly with lack of confidence like MKG, Hollis Jefferson Iam happy
The jump shot is more about preventing their man/ds sagging off of them... Keep the defense off balance
What you dont want with athletes like these is to turn into an antoine walker and just keep chucking from the outside, wasting their slashing ability/athleticism
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Here is a post from SoSH I agree with. I could not copy the link to the U.K. Versus Kansas game. Sorry.
If Jackson really has learned how to shoot well from outside, I hope the Celtics pick him number one.
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So Josh Jackson puts up 20 points, 10 rebounds, three assists and two steals line against KY and hit 2 key 3Ps to start the 2nd half. Perhaps more importantly, he is 8-14 from 3P range over the last three games. Below are highlights. One thing that immediately strikes me is his handles.
Seems like he's a better prospect than Jaylen Brown was at the same stage? Also, since he will be leading his team in the tourney and Fultz will not, I wouldn't be surprised if he goes #1.
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Brown is more raw than Jackson but he's projected to be a better shooter in the long run and fits better at the 2 spot in his young career. Jackson is the more refined player and better leader but both have the killer factor in them.
Brown = the silent but cold-blooded assasin
Jackson = The KG/Draymond type intense player.
If Brown develops his shot, the two could be absolutely terrifying together on both sides of the ball.
Brown has proven he can make the open 3. 3 in crunch time
What more do people expect?
His game does not resolve around shooting the ball. He is more effective driving, operating from the post, transition buckets
If you want to play them together for big minutes one needs to be a threat from deep. The need to be able to make open 3s. Right now, Brown is a 31% shooter from deep. That isnt good enough if you dont surround him with shooters. Jackson-Brown would have bad spacing and limit the effectiveness of both players.
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Here is a post from SoSH I agree with. I could not copy the link to the U.K. Versus Kansas game. Sorry.
If Jackson really has learned how to shoot well from outside, I hope the Celtics pick him number one.
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So Josh Jackson puts up 20 points, 10 rebounds, three assists and two steals line against KY and hit 2 key 3Ps to start the 2nd half. Perhaps more importantly, he is 8-14 from 3P range over the last three games. Below are highlights. One thing that immediately strikes me is his handles.
Seems like he's a better prospect than Jaylen Brown was at the same stage? Also, since he will be leading his team in the tourney and Fultz will not, I wouldn't be surprised if he goes #1.
He is a better prospect than Jaylen was. No doubt.
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Jaylen's lateral agility, especially his eurosteps, are the thing that set him apart as an athlete. Few players in the NBA have that raw ability. Jackson has good agility, but not at Jaylen's elite level.
I think Jaylen is more explosive off of one feet that Jackson too. Although Jackson is a little more explosive off of two feet. Jaylen's wingspan is better than Jackson's, too.
Jaylen's form wasn't broken like Jackson's, who, unless he removes the hitch, will probably struggle with consistency. His free throw percentage is the best indication that he will struggle with shooting in the pros.
Jackson has good court vision, but it's not like Jaylen didn't have pretty good court vision in his own right (2 apg).
All in all, I don't think you can say "No doubt" that Jackson is a better prospect than Jaylen last year. I think I'd still rather have Jaylen.
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I really think people on here need to cool their jets about Boston getting the 1st pick this draft as even if Brooklyn finishes with the best odds, we still have a greater chance at getting the 4th pick than the 1st, in reality Josh Jackson may be the best we can get as he seems to be ranked 4th-5th range atm so more discussions about players like Jackson, Tatum, Fox ect... the better.
Bloody oath!
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Jaylen's lateral agility, especially his eurosteps, are the thing that set him apart as an athlete. Few players in the NBA have that raw ability. Jackson has good agility, but not at Jaylen's elite level.
I think Jaylen is more explosive off of one feet that Jackson too. Although Jackson is a little more explosive off of two feet. Jaylen's wingspan is better than Jackson's, too.
Jaylen's form wasn't broken like Jackson's, who, unless he removes the hitch, will probably struggle with consistency. His free throw percentage is the best indication that he will struggle with shooting in the pros.
Jackson has good court vision, but it's not like Jaylen didn't have pretty good court vision in his own right (2 apg).
All in all, I don't think you can say "No doubt" that Jackson is a better prospect than Jaylen last year. I think I'd still rather have Jaylen.
I dont think there is any doubt.
The Chad Ford Tier system is flawed but on Jan 20th (prior to Jackson going 8/14 from 3 and having a signature performance against Kentucky) Jackson was a consensus 2nd tier player.
Brown was 3rd tier with some votes in the 4th tier.
Jackson is a better prospect.
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Jaylen's lateral agility, especially his eurosteps, are the thing that set him apart as an athlete. Few players in the NBA have that raw ability. Jackson has good agility, but not at Jaylen's elite level.
I think Jaylen is more explosive off of one feet that Jackson too. Although Jackson is a little more explosive off of two feet. Jaylen's wingspan is better than Jackson's, too.
Jaylen's form wasn't broken like Jackson's, who, unless he removes the hitch, will probably struggle with consistency. His free throw percentage is the best indication that he will struggle with shooting in the pros.
Jackson has good court vision, but it's not like Jaylen didn't have pretty good court vision in his own right (2 apg).
All in all, I don't think you can say "No doubt" that Jackson is a better prospect than Jaylen last year. I think I'd still rather have Jaylen.
I dont think there is any doubt.
The Chad Ford Tier system is flawed but on Jan 20th (prior to Jackson going 8/14 from 3 and having a signature performance against Kentucky) Jackson was a consensus 2nd tier player.
Brown was 3rd tier with some votes in the 4th tier.
Jackson is a better prospect.
Meh.
I just did several comparisons of them as players that showed they are at least comparable.
And you site Chad Ford.
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Jaylen's lateral agility, especially his eurosteps, are the thing that set him apart as an athlete. Few players in the NBA have that raw ability. Jackson has good agility, but not at Jaylen's elite level.
I think Jaylen is more explosive off of one feet that Jackson too. Although Jackson is a little more explosive off of two feet. Jaylen's wingspan is better than Jackson's, too.
Jaylen's form wasn't broken like Jackson's, who, unless he removes the hitch, will probably struggle with consistency. His free throw percentage is the best indication that he will struggle with shooting in the pros.
Jackson has good court vision, but it's not like Jaylen didn't have pretty good court vision in his own right (2 apg).
All in all, I don't think you can say "No doubt" that Jackson is a better prospect than Jaylen last year. I think I'd still rather have Jaylen.
I dont think there is any doubt.
The Chad Ford Tier system is flawed but on Jan 20th (prior to Jackson going 8/14 from 3 and having a signature performance against Kentucky) Jackson was a consensus 2nd tier player.
Brown was 3rd tier with some votes in the 4th tier.
Jackson is a better prospect.
Yeah and how are those tiers working out in regards to Brown? I would say not well.
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Jaylen is not a bad passer but Jackon have an amazing court vision for a forward. His passing and court vision alone separates him from the likes of Winslow, Johnson and MKG. He also have the quick first-step that these guys lack.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kaP4QCK1pZs
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Jaylen's lateral agility, especially his eurosteps, are the thing that set him apart as an athlete. Few players in the NBA have that raw ability. Jackson has good agility, but not at Jaylen's elite level.
I think Jaylen is more explosive off of one feet that Jackson too. Although Jackson is a little more explosive off of two feet. Jaylen's wingspan is better than Jackson's, too.
Jaylen's form wasn't broken like Jackson's, who, unless he removes the hitch, will probably struggle with consistency. His free throw percentage is the best indication that he will struggle with shooting in the pros.
Jackson has good court vision, but it's not like Jaylen didn't have pretty good court vision in his own right (2 apg).
All in all, I don't think you can say "No doubt" that Jackson is a better prospect than Jaylen last year. I think I'd still rather have Jaylen.
I dont think there is any doubt.
The Chad Ford Tier system is flawed but on Jan 20th (prior to Jackson going 8/14 from 3 and having a signature performance against Kentucky) Jackson was a consensus 2nd tier player.
Brown was 3rd tier with some votes in the 4th tier.
Jackson is a better prospect.
Meh.
I just did several comparisons of them as players that showed they are at least comparable.
And you site Chad Ford.
Ford surveys league execs and asks for their takes on the players. He has the place each player in a tier.
Now its possible that Ford doesnt actually do this and is lying, but none of the tiers take into account Fords actual scouting ability. Its why the tier system is valuable.
I like Brown but jackson is seen as a superior prospect.
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Jaylen's lateral agility, especially his eurosteps, are the thing that set him apart as an athlete. Few players in the NBA have that raw ability. Jackson has good agility, but not at Jaylen's elite level.
I think Jaylen is more explosive off of one feet that Jackson too. Although Jackson is a little more explosive off of two feet. Jaylen's wingspan is better than Jackson's, too.
Jaylen's form wasn't broken like Jackson's, who, unless he removes the hitch, will probably struggle with consistency. His free throw percentage is the best indication that he will struggle with shooting in the pros.
Jackson has good court vision, but it's not like Jaylen didn't have pretty good court vision in his own right (2 apg).
All in all, I don't think you can say "No doubt" that Jackson is a better prospect than Jaylen last year. I think I'd still rather have Jaylen.
I dont think there is any doubt.
The Chad Ford Tier system is flawed but on Jan 20th (prior to Jackson going 8/14 from 3 and having a signature performance against Kentucky) Jackson was a consensus 2nd tier player.
Brown was 3rd tier with some votes in the 4th tier.
Jackson is a better prospect.
Yeah and how are those tiers working out in regards to Brown? I would say not well.
I think they underrated him, but that doesnt make him a better prospect than Jackson. I think Jackson is the better prospect and outside of a Celtics fan blog I really dont think that would be a controversial opinion.
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Jackson is better because compare their 1st years in college..
Jackson is a leader.... Brown is a weapon
Jackson understands how to use the floor/teammates almost like how a pg thinks vs Brown who plays a more simplier/instictive game
Jackson would be a tremendous addition for the current Celtics core. He immediately helps with rebounding, ball handling duties, passing and makes the Celts team more explosive.
Instead of IT4 dancing around with the ball alot of the times, Jackson will be able to relieve the pressure and take on the pg duties or find a way to score on his own. I can see lots of Jackson to IT4 kickouts as well. Jackson to Horford drop offs. Jackson to AB/Crowder/KO for the 3. Jackson to Brown for alley hoops... I would love to see this
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https://theringer.com/josh-jacksons-achilles-heel-will-keep-him-from-going-no-1-3ed0b79a4768#.xim2wuiwj
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https://theringer.com/josh-jacksons-achilles-heel-will-keep-him-from-going-no-1-3ed0b79a4768#.xim2wuiwj
Good article, but the stats are a month old. His 3 point shooting is up to 32%, FT still stuck around 55%. Like so many athletic prospects, how he shoots will determine how good a player he is.
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https://theringer.com/josh-jacksons-achilles-heel-will-keep-him-from-going-no-1-3ed0b79a4768#.xim2wuiwj
Good article, but the stats are a month old. His 3 point shooting is up to 32%, FT still stuck around 55%. Like so many athletic prospects, how he shoots will determine how good a player he is.
If he keeps shooting the ball the way he has been lately, he will be fine
He needs to make teams pay for sagging off of him (which they are doing more of)
You slow down Jackson/have him hit the wall with his jump shot you have a better chance to win
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in the 48 hours leading up to the blue-blood battle, it seemed like everyone was resigned to the inevitability that Edrice "Bam" Adebayo would have his way with a depleted Jayhawks frontcourt. The only unknown was how dominant his double-double would be in front of scouts from what Fox Sports' Aaron Torres estimated as 25 NBA teams
In Adebayo's place, it was Kansas' de facto power forward who balled out in his audition for the pros, as Jackson finished with 20 points, 10 rebounds, three assists and two steals—including what was effectively a game-sealing putback layup with just over a minute remaining.
Hope one was a Celtics representative
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in the 48 hours leading up to the blue-blood battle, it seemed like everyone was resigned to the inevitability that Edrice "Bam" Adebayo would have his way with a depleted Jayhawks frontcourt. The only unknown was how dominant his double-double would be in front of scouts from what Fox Sports' Aaron Torres estimated as 25 NBA teams
In Adebayo's place, it was Kansas' de facto power forward who balled out in his audition for the pros, as Jackson finished with 20 points, 10 rebounds, three assists and two steals—including what was effectively a game-sealing putback layup with just over a minute remaining.
Hope one was a Celtics representative
you can bet The Celtics had a few guys at a game with Monk and Jackson.
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Darius Miles without baggage? Good prospect. Miles was a good passer, and willing (but woeful) shooter like Jackson.
That's a pretty good prospect.
Or, if he is as good of a ball-handler as some on here think, what about Evan Turner comparison?
Edit: Josh Smith? Gerald Wallace?
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Darius Miles without baggage? Good prospect. Miles was a good passer, and willing (but woeful) shooter like Jackson.
That's a pretty good prospect.
Or, if he is as good of a ball-handler as some on here think, what about Evan Turner comparison?
Edit: Josh Smith? Gerald Wallace?
None of those guys.. jackson handles the ball better than all listed
I still say a poor man Lebron comparison describes best
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I see Jackson as an athletic Evan Turner. And an athletic version of Turner is an All-Star caliber talent. So is Gerald Wallace in his prime. I'll take those at top 3 pick anytime.
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I see Jackson as an athletic Evan Turner. And an athletic version of Turner is an All-Star caliber talent. So is Gerald Wallace in his prime. I'll take those at top 3 pick anytime.
Turner handles are loose. He cant make it all the way to the basket majority of the time.
He cant protect the rim. And only is an average rebounder
If anything Turner is more like a sg
I think a more intense smarter Michael Beasley comparison might work... Then again Beasley is a better shooter
The only two forwards I can recently think of that are multi talented, handles, passing, bbiq, explosiveness, (cant shoot) are Lebron and Simmons...
Simmons committment on the defensive end is questionable though
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I see Jackson as an athletic Evan Turner. And an athletic version of Turner is an All-Star caliber talent. So is Gerald Wallace in his prime. I'll take those at top 3 pick anytime.
Turner handles are loose. He cant make it all the way to the basket majority of the time.
He cant protect the rim. And only is an average rebounder
If anything Turner is more like a sg
I think a more intense smarter Michael Beasley comparison might work... Then again Beasley is a better shooter
The only two forwards I can recently think of that are multi talented, handles, passing, bbiq, explosiveness, (cant shoot) are Lebron and Simmons...
Simmons committment on the defensive end is questionable though
Turner is probably a better rebounder than Jackson. comparable passers. Turner is a better/more creative finisher, but Jackson is way more athletic and explosive allowing him to be a better scorer.
The real issue with the comp is defense where Jackson can potential be an all-defense guy.
Simmons is a much better passer and rebounder than Jackson.
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I see Jackson as an athletic Evan Turner. And an athletic version of Turner is an All-Star caliber talent. So is Gerald Wallace in his prime. I'll take those at top 3 pick anytime.
Turner handles are loose. He cant make it all the way to the basket majority of the time.
He cant protect the rim. And only is an average rebounder
If anything Turner is more like a sg
I think a more intense smarter Michael Beasley comparison might work... Then again Beasley is a better shooter
The only two forwards I can recently think of that are multi talented, handles, passing, bbiq, explosiveness, (cant shoot) are Lebron and Simmons...
Simmons committment on the defensive end is questionable though
Turner is probably a better rebounder than Jackson. comparable passers. Turner is a better/more creative finisher, but Jackson is way more athletic and explosive allowing him to be a better scorer.
The real issue with the comp is defense where Jackson can potential be an all-defense guy.
Simmons is a much better passer and rebounder than Jackson.
Are you talking defense or offense? Because Jackson is a better offensive rebounder than turner or simmons... Just relentless/effort
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Point forward skills analysis by draftexpress
https://www.youtube.com/shared?ci=pnO0L5kpElM
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I see Jackson as an athletic Evan Turner. And an athletic version of Turner is an All-Star caliber talent. So is Gerald Wallace in his prime. I'll take those at top 3 pick anytime.
Turner handles are loose. He cant make it all the way to the basket majority of the time.
He cant protect the rim. And only is an average rebounder
If anything Turner is more like a sg
I think a more intense smarter Michael Beasley comparison might work... Then again Beasley is a better shooter
The only two forwards I can recently think of that are multi talented, handles, passing, bbiq, explosiveness, (cant shoot) are Lebron and Simmons...
Simmons committment on the defensive end is questionable though
Turner is probably a better rebounder than Jackson. comparable passers. Turner is a better/more creative finisher, but Jackson is way more athletic and explosive allowing him to be a better scorer.
The real issue with the comp is defense where Jackson can potential be an all-defense guy.
Simmons is a much better passer and rebounder than Jackson.
Are you talking defense or offense? Because Jackson is a better offensive rebounder than turner or simmons... Just relentless/effort
defense.
I care about defensive rebounding much more.
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Point forward skills analysis by draftexpress
https://www.youtube.com/shared?ci=pnO0L5kpElM
honestly the guy he reminds me of the most is terrence williams + finishing ability.
Obviously a far superior prospect, but thats the guy that I keep coming back to.
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Point forward skills analysis by draftexpress
https://www.youtube.com/shared?ci=pnO0L5kpElM
honestly the guy he reminds me of the most is terrence williams + finishing ability.
Obviously a far superior prospect, but thats the guy that I keep coming back to.
A rich man Matt Barnes, Terrence Williams + finishing ability?/ really?
Terrence Williams is 6'5 and has a below bbiq. That is why he is no longer in the league
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He is now the #3 prospect on the draftexpress board.
http://www.draftexpress.com/rankings/Top-100-Prospects/
3. Josh Jackson
SF (Kansas - Freshman)
19.9 years old | 6'8" | 203 lbs
2016-17 NCAA (21 GP)
15.7 PPG 6.7 RPG 3.1 APG 24.6 PER
Keep in mind he plays way better defense than either Fultz or Ball.
And defense is half of the game.
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How can Jackson be considered to go number 2 or 3 on this draft with 55% ft shooting? Good prospect yes and he is not a PG which is important for this draft but Fultz, Ball and Smith are for sure better long term prospects than Josh
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Point forward skills analysis by draftexpress
https://www.youtube.com/shared?ci=pnO0L5kpElM
honestly the guy he reminds me of the most is terrence williams + finishing ability.
Obviously a far superior prospect, but thats the guy that I keep coming back to.
A rich man Matt Barnes, Terrence Williams + finishing ability?/ really?
Terrence Williams is 6'5 and has a below bbiq. That is why he is no longer in the league
Yeah, I think it's safe to say he will be somewhere between Terrence Williams and Lebron James.
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He is now the #3 prospect on the draftexpress board.
http://www.draftexpress.com/rankings/Top-100-Prospects/
3. Josh Jackson
SF (Kansas - Freshman)
19.9 years old | 6'8" | 203 lbs
2016-17 NCAA (21 GP)
15.7 PPG 6.7 RPG 3.1 APG 24.6 PER
Keep in mind he plays way better defense than either Fultz or Ball.
And defense is half of the game.
Is defense really half the game? How come guys like Tony Allen and Thabo Sefolosha are overlooked for massive contracts/All Star games that James Harden and Carmelo Anthony get?
I think offense is valued at 1.5-2x as much as defense in the NBA.
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He is now the #3 prospect on the draftexpress board.
http://www.draftexpress.com/rankings/Top-100-Prospects/
3. Josh Jackson
SF (Kansas - Freshman)
19.9 years old | 6'8" | 203 lbs
2016-17 NCAA (21 GP)
15.7 PPG 6.7 RPG 3.1 APG 24.6 PER
Keep in mind he plays way better defense than either Fultz or Ball.
And defense is half of the game.
Is defense really half the game? How come guys like Tony Allen and Thabo Sefolosha are overlooked for massive contracts/All Star games that James Harden and Carmelo Anthony get?
I think offense is valued at 1.5-2x as much as defense in the NBA.
Yes but smart teams know defense is worth at least half
The spurs are the spurs bc of leonards defense
No knock on timely offense required. But defense wins championships.
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Point forward skills analysis by draftexpress
https://www.youtube.com/shared?ci=pnO0L5kpElM
honestly the guy he reminds me of the most is terrence williams + finishing ability.
Obviously a far superior prospect, but thats the guy that I keep coming back to.
A rich man Matt Barnes, Terrence Williams + finishing ability?/ really?
Terrence Williams is 6'5 and has a below bbiq. That is why he is no longer in the league
Yeah, I think it's safe to say he will be somewhere between Terrence Williams and Lebron James.
So you finally agree... A poor man Lebron
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He is now the #3 prospect on the draftexpress board.
http://www.draftexpress.com/rankings/Top-100-Prospects/
3. Josh Jackson
SF (Kansas - Freshman)
19.9 years old | 6'8" | 203 lbs
2016-17 NCAA (21 GP)
15.7 PPG 6.7 RPG 3.1 APG 24.6 PER
Keep in mind he plays way better defense than either Fultz or Ball.
And defense is half of the game.
Is defense really half the game? How come guys like Tony Allen and Thabo Sefolosha are overlooked for massive contracts/All Star games that James Harden and Carmelo Anthony get?
I think offense is valued at 1.5-2x as much as defense in the NBA.
I think you are right when it comes to individuals. I think this is due to the fact that there is a relatively wider range of effective offensive output than effective defensive output by individual players. So the value is found in the variance from player to player. The difference between most defensive players is less so there is less relative space for value to be found.
Basketball is an offensive sport, so the default is scoring. No one shuts down an offense by themselves, but one player can create offense (for themselves and others).
Of course, this changes when talking about team defense and I think it's generally accepted that individually good defenders will contribute better to good team defense.
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Going to have to keep an eye on the investigation of a rape at KU.
Five players have been named as witnesses - no charges - and the list includes Jackson.
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Going to have to keep an eye on the investigation of a rape at KU.
Five players have been named as witnesses - no charges - and the list includes Jackson.
I read as a witness , not accused
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How about Scottie Pippen as a comparison?
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How about Scottie Pippen as a comparison?
Kind of... Not bad
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How about Scottie Pippen as a comparison?
Kind of... Not bad
He has the tools to be sure, but I'm wouldn't hold my hopes up for that. Andre Igoudala is the better comp IMO.
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How about Scottie Pippen as a comparison?
Kind of... Not bad
He has the tools to be sure, but I'm wouldn't hold my hopes up for that. Andre Igoudala is the better comp IMO.
And iguadala compares to pippen
But the slight disconnect is that both iggy and pippen are sg/sf
And jackson is a sf/pf
I keep thinking Gerald Wallace. But he didnt have very good perimeter skills.
Whwt about Tim Thomas or Antawn Jamieson?
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Jamieson is a good one. But what about Grant Hill.
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Jamieson is a good one. But what about Grant Hill.
Not sure about Hill
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Going to have to keep an eye on the investigation of a rape at KU.
Five players have been named as witnesses - no charges - and the list includes Jackson.
I read as a witness , not accused
Which is exactly what I said.
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Point forward skills analysis by draftexpress
https://www.youtube.com/shared?ci=pnO0L5kpElM
honestly the guy he reminds me of the most is terrence williams + finishing ability.
Obviously a far superior prospect, but thats the guy that I keep coming back to.
A rich man Matt Barnes, Terrence Williams + finishing ability?/ really?
Terrence Williams is 6'5 and has a below bbiq. That is why he is no longer in the league
Yeah, I think it's safe to say he will be somewhere between Terrence Williams and Lebron James.
So you finally agree... A poor man Lebron
Sure, a less athletic, weaker, smaller in every sense outside of hair, less intelligent, worse passing Lebron with a weaker handle and a much more broken jump shot.
Likewise he is a longer, taller, more intelligent, better passing, more explosive and finishing version of Terrence Williams.
Hes more likely to follow Terrence William's career arc than he is Lebron James.
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Grant Hill, Penny Hardaway and a less explosive but way better at defense version of Russell Westbrook? how about those guys?
All of them seem way to generous. I hate comparing draft picks to hall of famers.
Thats why I refuse to acknowledge a Lebron comp.
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Point forward skills analysis by draftexpress
https://www.youtube.com/shared?ci=pnO0L5kpElM
honestly the guy he reminds me of the most is terrence williams + finishing ability.
Obviously a far superior prospect, but thats the guy that I keep coming back to.
A rich man Matt Barnes, Terrence Williams + finishing ability?/ really?
Terrence Williams is 6'5 and has a below bbiq. That is why he is no longer in the league
Yeah, I think it's safe to say he will be somewhere between Terrence Williams and Lebron James.
So you finally agree... A poor man Lebron
Sure, a less athletic, weaker, smaller in every sense outside of hair, less intelligent, worse passing Lebron with a weaker handle and a much more broken jump shot.
Hence a poor man Lebron
You forgot to add Jackson is a better rim protector and thief than Lebron on the defensive end
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Point forward skills analysis by draftexpress
https://www.youtube.com/shared?ci=pnO0L5kpElM
honestly the guy he reminds me of the most is terrence williams + finishing ability.
Obviously a far superior prospect, but thats the guy that I keep coming back to.
A rich man Matt Barnes, Terrence Williams + finishing ability?/ really?
Terrence Williams is 6'5 and has a below bbiq. That is why he is no longer in the league
Yeah, I think it's safe to say he will be somewhere between Terrence Williams and Lebron James.
So you finally agree... A poor man Lebron
Sure, a less athletic, weaker, smaller in every sense outside of hair, less intelligent, worse passing Lebron with a weaker handle and a much more broken jump shot.
Hence a poor man Lebron
You forgot to add Jackson is a better rim protector and thief than Lebron on the defensive end
he gives more effort than Lebron on defense, but Lebron is a better defender at every level, save maybe defending point gaurds.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qpvBhIUqNcM
how about a poor-mans giannis.
I really hate comparing people to lebron even if you throw "poor-mans" before it. He is the best player of the past 20 years.
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http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nba-draft-stock-watch-euro-sensation-making-waves-193103069.html
He is fearless and grimey!
"Josh Jackson, Kansas
Small forward
6-foot-8, freshman
Age: 19
NBA general managers flocked to Rupp Arena in Lexington, Ky., on Saturday to watch a rare non-conference late January game between two of the most talented teams in college basketball. Despite Kentucky starting five McDonald’s All-Americans, it was Jackson – the Jayhawks’ lone McDonald’s All-American – who stole the show in the 79-73 Jayhawks victory with 20 points, 10 rebounds, three assists and two steals.
One of the things NBA personnel like about Jackson is his fearlessness. He was in attack mode all game against Kentucky, making plays defensively and on the glass, while also demonstrating an extremely high basketball IQ by creating for his teammates. His jumper is hardly a thing of beauty, but he’s been finding a way to make shots lately, hitting eight of his last 14 3-point attempts and bringing his 3-point percentage up to 33 percent.
Although it’s difficult to project Jackson as the sort of go-to scoring presence a franchise might want from a top-three pick – he also turns 20 next week, which makes him much older than most freshmen in this class – he does so many different things that NBA front offices are beginning to view him as an Andre Iguodala-type who helps win games with his versatility and competitiveness."
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http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nba-draft-stock-watch-euro-sensation-making-waves-193103069.html
He is fearless and grimey!
"Josh Jackson, Kansas
Small forward
6-foot-8, freshman
Age: 19
NBA general managers flocked to Rupp Arena in Lexington, Ky., on Saturday to watch a rare non-conference late January game between two of the most talented teams in college basketball. Despite Kentucky starting five McDonald’s All-Americans, it was Jackson – the Jayhawks’ lone McDonald’s All-American – who stole the show in the 79-73 Jayhawks victory with 20 points, 10 rebounds, three assists and two steals.
One of the things NBA personnel like about Jackson is his fearlessness. He was in attack mode all game against Kentucky, making plays defensively and on the glass, while also demonstrating an extremely high basketball IQ by creating for his teammates. His jumper is hardly a thing of beauty, but he’s been finding a way to make shots lately, hitting eight of his last 14 3-point attempts and bringing his 3-point percentage up to 33 percent.
Although it’s difficult to project Jackson as the sort of go-to scoring presence a franchise might want from a top-three pick – he also turns 20 next week, which makes him much older than most freshmen in this class – he does so many different things that NBA front offices are beginning to view him as an Andre Iguodala-type who helps win games with his versatility and competitiveness."
Get the number 11 jersey ready
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Point forward skills analysis by draftexpress
https://www.youtube.com/shared?ci=pnO0L5kpElM
honestly the guy he reminds me of the most is terrence williams + finishing ability.
Obviously a far superior prospect, but thats the guy that I keep coming back to.
A rich man Matt Barnes, Terrence Williams + finishing ability?/ really?
Terrence Williams is 6'5 and has a below bbiq. That is why he is no longer in the league
Yeah, I think it's safe to say he will be somewhere between Terrence Williams and Lebron James.
So you finally agree... A poor man Lebron
Sure, a less athletic, weaker, smaller in every sense outside of hair, less intelligent, worse passing Lebron with a weaker handle and a much more broken jump shot.
Hence a poor man Lebron
You forgot to add Jackson is a better rim protector and thief than Lebron on the defensive end
he gives more effort than Lebron on defense, but Lebron is a better defender at every level, save maybe defending point gaurds.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qpvBhIUqNcM
how about a poor-mans giannis.
I really hate comparing people to lebron even if you throw "poor-mans" before it. He is the best player of the past 20 years.
Different body, style
Giannia is closer to Grant Hill
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Are there any videos of Josh Jackson that you guys have seen that made you think that he is the next great Celtic?
I've spent some time on youtube and think that I'd like Tatum and Fultz more.
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Are there any videos of Josh Jackson that you guys have seen that made you think that he is the next great Celtic?
I've spent some time on youtube and think that I'd like Tatum and Fultz more.
https://www.youtube.com/shared?ci=MJ2UqkgkjAI
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Are there any videos of Josh Jackson that you guys have seen that made you think that he is the next great Celtic?
I've spent some time on youtube and think that I'd like Tatum and Fultz more.
He has more lift then Tatum and his handle is a bit tighter. Quicker side to side then Tatum also.
Tatum is more composed and has a nicer looking jumpshot.
Overall I would say Jackson is just more dynamic and that gives him a higher ceiling.
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Are there any videos of Josh Jackson that you guys have seen that made you think that he is the next great Celtic?
I've spent some time on youtube and think that I'd like Tatum and Fultz more.
https://www.youtube.com/shared?ci=MJ2UqkgkjAI
Two things stand out to me. He is already impressive with his off hand dribbling and passing. He can go both ways and pass with either hand.
The other is he is quick with his second jump. There was a play he missed a layup and he was the first guy to react on his second jump. I know Brad Stevens is big on how fast a guy is on their second jump ability.
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Are there any videos of Josh Jackson that you guys have seen that made you think that he is the next great Celtic?
I've spent some time on youtube and think that I'd like Tatum and Fultz more.
https://www.youtube.com/shared?ci=MJ2UqkgkjAI
TP. That video is impressive. He looks very athletic. Do you think he works well with Jaylen Brown?
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Are there any videos of Josh Jackson that you guys have seen that made you think that he is the next great Celtic?
I've spent some time on youtube and think that I'd like Tatum and Fultz more.
https://www.youtube.com/shared?ci=MJ2UqkgkjAI
TP. That video is impressive. He looks very athletic. Do you think he works well with Jaylen Brown?
At first I thought he wouldn't but Brown has been playing some two lately so I'm more opened to adding a 6'8 player. It's possible.
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Are there any videos of Josh Jackson that you guys have seen that made you think that he is the next great Celtic?
I've spent some time on youtube and think that I'd like Tatum and Fultz more.
https://www.youtube.com/shared?ci=MJ2UqkgkjAI
Two things stand out to me. He is already impressive with his off hand dribbling and passing. He can go both ways and pass with either hand.
The other is he is quick with his second jump. There was a play he missed a layup and he was the first guy to react on his second jump. I know Brad Stevens is big on how fast a guy is on their second jump ability.
He cannot finish lefty at all, though.
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Are there any videos of Josh Jackson that you guys have seen that made you think that he is the next great Celtic?
I've spent some time on youtube and think that I'd like Tatum and Fultz more.
https://www.youtube.com/shared?ci=MJ2UqkgkjAI
Two things stand out to me. He is already impressive with his off hand dribbling and passing. He can go both ways and pass with either hand.
The other is he is quick with his second jump. There was a play he missed a layup and he was the first guy to react on his second jump. I know Brad Stevens is big on how fast a guy is on their second jump ability.
He cannot finish lefty at all, though.
Even IT who is great at finishing at the rim will try to use his strong hand on the opposite side.
The times he does use his right it never looks as easy as when IT finishes with his left.
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Are there any videos of Josh Jackson that you guys have seen that made you think that he is the next great Celtic?
I've spent some time on youtube and think that I'd like Tatum and Fultz more.
https://www.youtube.com/shared?ci=MJ2UqkgkjAI
Two things stand out to me. He is already impressive with his off hand dribbling and passing. He can go both ways and pass with either hand.
The other is he is quick with his second jump. There was a play he missed a layup and he was the first guy to react on his second jump. I know Brad Stevens is big on how fast a guy is on their second jump ability.
He cannot finish lefty at all, though.
Yes he can.
Watch 0:53 and 8:25
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Are there any videos of Josh Jackson that you guys have seen that made you think that he is the next great Celtic?
I've spent some time on youtube and think that I'd like Tatum and Fultz more.
https://www.youtube.com/shared?ci=MJ2UqkgkjAI
TP. That video is impressive. He looks very athletic. Do you think he works well with Jaylen Brown?
Absolutely
Could be a devastating pair... On both ends
Jackson for Brown alleys would be a thing of a beauty
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Another positive check for Jackson: he shows up in big games against the best opponents.
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Are there any videos of Josh Jackson that you guys have seen that made you think that he is the next great Celtic?
I've spent some time on youtube and think that I'd like Tatum and Fultz more.
https://www.youtube.com/shared?ci=MJ2UqkgkjAI
TP. That video is impressive. He looks very athletic. Do you think he works well with Jaylen Brown?
Absolutely
Could be a devastating pair... On both ends
Jackson for Brown alleys would be a thing of a beauty
Not as pretty as Ball to Brown.
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I like this kid more and more. He show up big time vs Baylor. Great hustle everywhere on the court.
Nice to see that Jackson will be a very nice consolation price in case we end up #3 on ping pong balls.
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Another positive check for Jackson: he shows up in big games against the best opponents.
This. I'd like to see this on Fultz or Ball.
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We need this kidsnd better not take an fn pg! >:(
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MkG1Jmuw5S4
vs Baylor
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We need this kidsnd better not take an fn pg! >:(
23 pts/10 reb last night vs #2 Baylor... Tough win for Kansas
https://www.youtube.com/shared?ci=HcSeUNKyXzA
2 clutch 3s... amazing prospect.
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He is gamer...comes up big when it really counts.
A kind of taller Marcus.
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Like this kid. Has good size and athleticism. Would be a nice pairing with Jaylen for the future. Seems like a work horse blue collar gritty type of guy that the C's usually get a hard on for (see Bradley, Smart, Brown, etc) when they evaluate their draft picks.
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Like this kid. Has good size and athleticism. Would be a nice pairing with Jaylen for the future. Seems like a work horse blue collar gritty type of guy that the C's usually get a hard on for (see Bradley, Smart, Brown, etc) when they evaluate their draft picks.
I want the number 1 pick...
If danny bypasses Jackson for anothet player...i will trust his judgement...cant see how jackson is not impressing/will not impress
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His shot selection is quite good, he's like what you would get if you Goten/Trunks-fusion danced KO and Smart.
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In the past, I have been scared of the C's drafting a guy with a questionable jump shot because we were a bad shooting team.
Now that the C's are shooting so well, I'd be fine gambling on a guy with a questionable jump shot if he did everything else well. I think Josh Jackson is that guy.
His defense could probably help us immediately and as he develops I think he could become a star.
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Now that the C's are shooting so well, I'd be fine gambling on a guy with a questionable jump shot if he did everything else well. I think Josh Jackson is that guy.
Even if it means endless forum posts about how good he could be if he only fixed he shot?
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Now that the C's are shooting so well, I'd be fine gambling on a guy with a questionable jump shot if he did everything else well. I think Josh Jackson is that guy.
Even if it means endless forum posts about how good he could be if he only fixed he shot?
He was never considered a non shooter
I couldnt care less if there is a little hitch....as long as he can make the open jump shot/3 pt shot
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http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2690731-win-over-baylor-shows-kansas-will-go-as-far-as-josh-jackson-takes-them
Jackson late game defensive plays key to win over Baylor. Has shot 10-18 from 3 point land in the past 4 games
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Now that the C's are shooting so well, I'd be fine gambling on a guy with a questionable jump shot if he did everything else well. I think Josh Jackson is that guy.
Even if it means endless forum posts about how good he could be if he only fixed he shot?
He was never considered a non shooter
I couldnt care less if there is a little hitch....as long as he can make the open jump shot/3 pt shot
His shot has always been considered questionable, at best.
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Now that the C's are shooting so well, I'd be fine gambling on a guy with a questionable jump shot if he did everything else well. I think Josh Jackson is that guy.
Even if it means endless forum posts about how good he could be if he only fixed he shot?
Well the Smart naysayers are turning the corner finally even though Marcus still struggles from deep...only took three years haha.
Jackson will be a scorer in the NBA, so if he struggles from three he will be forgiven much more quickly than Smart..one hopes!
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Now that the C's are shooting so well, I'd be fine gambling on a guy with a questionable jump shot if he did everything else well. I think Josh Jackson is that guy.
Even if it means endless forum posts about how good he could be if he only fixed he shot?
He was never considered a non shooter
I couldnt care less if there is a little hitch....as long as he can make the open jump shot/3 pt shot
His shot has always been considered questionable, at best.
He has shot 10-18 from 3 point land in the past 4 games
But he gets no credit from you. I get it, you just dont like him
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Now that the C's are shooting so well, I'd be fine gambling on a guy with a questionable jump shot if he did everything else well. I think Josh Jackson is that guy.
Even if it means endless forum posts about how good he could be if he only fixed he shot?
He was never considered a non shooter
I couldnt care less if there is a little hitch....as long as he can make the open jump shot/3 pt shot
His shot has always been considered questionable, at best.
He has shot 10-18 from 3 point land in the past 4 games
But he gets no credit from you. I get it, you just dont like him
So I don't like him because I don't think a FOUR game sample of EIGHTEEN shots is enough?
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Jackson vs Iowa St.
https://www.youtube.com/shared?ci=mkANrd-oGJ0
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Tough loss for jackson and kansas in O/T
Jackson another double double...but was guarded really tightly. Two guys at all times waiting for him
Shot 1-3 from the 3 point line. This would have been a game he could have used the long range shot a little more.
Mason was the focal point on the offense in this game
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Now that the C's are shooting so well, I'd be fine gambling on a guy with a questionable jump shot if he did everything else well. I think Josh Jackson is that guy.
Even if it means endless forum posts about how good he could be if he only fixed he shot?
He was never considered a non shooter
I couldnt care less if there is a little hitch....as long as he can make the open jump shot/3 pt shot
His shot has always been considered questionable, at best.
He has shot 10-18 from 3 point land in the past 4 games
But he gets no credit from you. I get it, you just dont like him
So I don't like him because I don't think a FOUR game sample of EIGHTEEN shots is enough?
I think too much is being questioned about his shot. The slight hitch can be fixed. has fixed his shot, it's still not amazing, but you have to respect it and thats all you need.
Scal said the NBA is going to the 3pt shot, and at some point teams will scheme against it. to have a guy who can get to the hoop like Jackson and Brown will be YUGE in a couple years. Jackson is smooth on the court, great handles, finishes and passes well. Kinda reminds me of a more athletic Steve Smith. Not a great outside threat, but has to respected, but 6'8" pt forward who plays inside the pt line.
I could see Jackson playing the 2 from the get go. He's not big enough for the 4 and some times the 3, but he's quick enough to play the 2 and his length would be great on D against other 2's.
He doesn't have to be a great 3pt shooter, but a respectable one that will open up the rest of his game.
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55% FT shooting!!!
Smitty77
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IynYymxIpHs
Single-handedly willed his team back in the game with his D and hustle. You can teach shooting but you can't teach desire, motor and leadership. This guy have all.
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The kid is grit and grime.
He totally fits into the Celtics culture.
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any top 4 pick will be just fine... i think we will select 2nd..
but the real fun will be if we get a top 5 pick next year....
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IynYymxIpHs
Single-handedly willed his team back in the game with his D and hustle. You can teach shooting but you can't teach desire, motor and leadership. This guy have all.
I haven't seen the highlights yet, but that sounds like Smart haha. We need a star player, not a role player....Let me see the highlights, hopefully Jackson looks good on both sides.
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i just watched the highlights. I really like this guy. He's freaking good.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IynYymxIpHs
Single-handedly willed his team back in the game with his D and hustle. You can teach shooting but you can't teach desire, motor and leadership. This guy have all.
I haven't seen the highlights yet, but that sounds like Smart haha. We need a star player, not a role player....Let me see the highlights, hopefully Jackson looks good on both sides.
If Smart could finish in the paint with loud dunks he would be considerably better than he is now.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IynYymxIpHs
Single-handedly willed his team back in the game with his D and hustle. You can teach shooting but you can't teach desire, motor and leadership. This guy have all.
I haven't seen the highlights yet, but that sounds like Smart haha. We need a star player, not a role player....Let me see the highlights, hopefully Jackson looks good on both sides.
We need impact players, not empty stat padders. I don't think people would like to play against a 6'8", more athletic version of Smart.
He will transform other teams into winner if not drafted by the Celtics.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IynYymxIpHs
Single-handedly willed his team back in the game with his D and hustle. You can teach shooting but you can't teach desire, motor and leadership. This guy have all.
I haven't seen the highlights yet, but that sounds like Smart haha. We need a star player, not a role player....Let me see the highlights, hopefully Jackson looks good on both sides.
Then maybe watch some video before you post. Better yet, watch a game so you can see the full impact of his game. Lots of guys look good in the highlights.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IynYymxIpHs
Single-handedly willed his team back in the game with his D and hustle. You can teach shooting but you can't teach desire, motor and leadership. This guy have all.
I haven't seen the highlights yet, but that sounds like Smart haha. We need a star player, not a role player....Let me see the highlights, hopefully Jackson looks good on both sides.
yeah, the two huge differences between the two are that Jackson is actually a pretty gifted finisher in the paint and that Jackson is an explosive athlete.
Give Smart finishing ability and above the rim athleticism and hes a star.
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Keep going guys ...LOL ...maybe you ll convert me from Fultz
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Keep going guys ...LOL ...maybe you ll convert me from Fultz
Josh Jackson 18 pts vs KSU(KU win). 2-3 from 3 pt land
He is 11 for 20 in the last 5-6 games. 57 percent.
https://www.youtube.com/shared?ci=bdCc1zK-F3s
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IynYymxIpHs
Single-handedly willed his team back in the game with his D and hustle. You can teach shooting but you can't teach desire, motor and leadership. This guy have all.
I haven't seen the highlights yet, but that sounds like Smart haha. We need a star player, not a role player....Let me see the highlights, hopefully Jackson looks good on both sides.
yeah, the two huge differences between the two are that Jackson is actually a pretty gifted finisher in the paint and that Jackson is an explosive athlete.
Give Smart finishing ability and above the rim athleticism and hes a star.
Exactly
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Keep going guys ...LOL ...maybe you ll convert me from Fultz
Josh Jackson 18 pts vs KSU(KU win). 2-3 from 3 pt land
He is 11 for 20 in the last 5-6 games. 57 percent.
https://www.youtube.com/shared?ci=bdCc1zK-F3s
Coach Self said that they would not be messing with his shot this year...they would leave it to the pro coaching staffs.
But he's on a hot streak now...so let that ride baby ride!!
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Keep going guys ...LOL ...maybe you ll convert me from Fultz
Josh Jackson 18 pts vs KSU(KU win). 2-3 from 3 pt land
He is 11 for 20 in the last 5-6 games. 57 percent.
https://www.youtube.com/shared?ci=bdCc1zK-F3s
Coach Self said that they would not be messing with his shot this year...they would leave it to the pro coaching staffs.
But he's on a hot streak now...so let that ride baby ride!!
Teams are sagging off of him more to prevent his elite slashing ability
And he is making them pay
What a defender. Perfect fit
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Keep going guys ...LOL ...maybe you ll convert me from Fultz
Josh Jackson 18 pts vs KSU(KU win). 2-3 from 3 pt land
He is 11 for 20 in the last 5-6 games. 57 55 percent.
https://www.youtube.com/shared?ci=bdCc1zK-F3s
FTFY
That's some really great shooting from him recently, but can he keep it up? Or is he gonna be just another streaky shooter like Smart?
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Probably can't go wrong with taking a flyer on Fultz, Ball, or Jackson. Each might be a #1 pick on a given year.
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Kid is killing it vs. Texas Tech. Triboy is in heaven. Starting to see Jackson's appeal. So effortless and intense at the same time. Looking very comfortable from the 3. And great handle and unselfish. Would fit in well with our team.
Thank you Brooklyn.
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Kid is killing it vs. Texas Tech. Triboy is in heaven. Starting to see Jackson's appeal. So effortless and intense at the same time. Looking very comfortable from the 3. And great handle and unselfish. Would fit in well with our team.
Thank you Brooklyn.
His increased confidence from three is encouraging. Shooting won't be a strength for him, but a willingness to shoot has value in and of itself. Outside of his shot, he's close to flawless, though. He's a really excellent prospect.
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Holy crap.
I have only watched the second half, and I have already decided this was the guy I wanted. Wow. I am beyond impressed. Everything he has done this game has been perfect. I had been and still am a big fan of Fultz and Ball, but now it even appears Jackson has fully corrected that hitch in his form. He has that intangible effect on winning like Marcus with the staggering athleticism and elite talent of Jaylen.
Nobody wears 11 on the Celtics right now, but next year I hope that changes.
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Holy crap.
I have only watched the second half, and I have already decided this was the guy I wanted. Wow. I am beyond impressed. Everything he has done this game has been perfect. I had been and still am a big fan of Fultz and Ball, but now it even appears Jackson has fully corrected that hitch in his form. He has that intangible effect on winning like Marcus with the staggering athleticism and elite talent of Jaylen.
Nobody wears 11 on the Celtics right now, but next year I hope that changes.
Just WOW
31 pts tonight, 11 rebounds, 2-4 from the 3 pt line.
Jackson is a winner... unfortunately at this rate , unless the Celts win the 1st pick, Jackson won't be available
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Holy crap.
I have only watched the second half, and I have already decided this was the guy I wanted. Wow. I am beyond impressed. Everything he has done this game has been perfect. I had been and still am a big fan of Fultz and Ball, but now it even appears Jackson has fully corrected that hitch in his form. He has that intangible effect on winning like Marcus with the staggering athleticism and elite talent of Jaylen.
Nobody wears 11 on the Celtics right now, but next year I hope that changes.
Just WOW
31 pts tonight, 11 rebounds, 2-4 from the 3 pt line.
Jackson is a winner... unfortunately at this rate , unless the Celts win the 1st pick, Jackson won't be available
There is a chance that other teams are not convinced about his shooting. Fultz and Ball are more popular than Jackson AFAIK and projected to be #1 and #2 respectively.
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Holy crap.
I have only watched the second half, and I have already decided this was the guy I wanted. Wow. I am beyond impressed. Everything he has done this game has been perfect. I had been and still am a big fan of Fultz and Ball, but now it even appears Jackson has fully corrected that hitch in his form. He has that intangible effect on winning like Marcus with the staggering athleticism and elite talent of Jaylen.
Nobody wears 11 on the Celtics right now, but next year I hope that changes.
Just WOW
31 pts tonight, 11 rebounds, 2-4 from the 3 pt line.
Jackson is a winner... unfortunately at this rate , unless the Celts win the 1st pick, Jackson won't be available
There is a chance that other teams are not convinced about his shooting. Fultz and Ball are more popular than Jackson AFAIK and projected to be #1 and #2 respectively.
For a guy that can't shoot he is shooting the 3 at about 55 percent the last 6 games
Also he did this for the last shot today... Everyone keeps bagging on his shooting and he keeps proving people wrong
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3OSowvAkRKU
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This is great news. The value of our Brooklyn pick keeps climbing as a trading chip too. It is pretty much a given Brooklyn will finish with worst record and therefore guaranteed of picking no worse than 4th. If Isaac continues to play well, a team is guaranteed a stud no matter where the pick lands.
I must say, I would be delighted with any of Ball, Fultz or Jackson. And Isaac as consolation prize.
Wowzer.
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Holy crap.
I have only watched the second half, and I have already decided this was the guy I wanted. Wow. I am beyond impressed. Everything he has done this game has been perfect. I had been and still am a big fan of Fultz and Ball, but now it even appears Jackson has fully corrected that hitch in his form. He has that intangible effect on winning like Marcus with the staggering athleticism and elite talent of Jaylen.
Nobody wears 11 on the Celtics right now, but next year I hope that changes.
Just WOW
31 pts tonight, 11 rebounds, 2-4 from the 3 pt line.
Jackson is a winner... unfortunately at this rate , unless the Celts win the 1st pick, Jackson won't be available
There is a chance that other teams are not convinced about his shooting. Fultz and Ball are more popular than Jackson AFAIK and projected to be #1 and #2 respectively.
For a guy that can't shoot he is shooting the 3 at about 55 percent the last 6 games
Also he did this for the last shot today... Everyone keeps bagging on his shooting and he keeps proving people wrong
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3OSowvAkRKU
His continued bad free throw shooting suggests that this hot streak from 3 is a fluke. Also, as nice as it was to see him hit a clutch free throw, he did miss the first one.
I love Jackson and you obviously do to, but it's OK to admit a guy has a flaw.
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Holy crap.
I have only watched the second half, and I have already decided this was the guy I wanted. Wow. I am beyond impressed. Everything he has done this game has been perfect. I had been and still am a big fan of Fultz and Ball, but now it even appears Jackson has fully corrected that hitch in his form. He has that intangible effect on winning like Marcus with the staggering athleticism and elite talent of Jaylen.
Nobody wears 11 on the Celtics right now, but next year I hope that changes.
Just WOW
31 pts tonight, 11 rebounds, 2-4 from the 3 pt line.
Jackson is a winner... unfortunately at this rate , unless the Celts win the 1st pick, Jackson won't be available
There is a chance that other teams are not convinced about his shooting. Fultz and Ball are more popular than Jackson AFAIK and projected to be #1 and #2 respectively.
For a guy that can't shoot he is shooting the 3 at about 55 percent the last 6 games
Also he did this for the last shot today... Everyone keeps bagging on his shooting and he keeps proving people wrong
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3OSowvAkRKU
His continued bad free throw shooting suggests that this hot streak from 3 is a fluke. Also, as nice as it was to see him hit a clutch free throw, he did miss the first one.
I love Jackson and you obviously do to, but it's OK to admit a guy has a flaw.
Every player has a flaw. Not sure where that gets you on this. The guy played great.
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Holy crap.
I have only watched the second half, and I have already decided this was the guy I wanted. Wow. I am beyond impressed. Everything he has done this game has been perfect. I had been and still am a big fan of Fultz and Ball, but now it even appears Jackson has fully corrected that hitch in his form. He has that intangible effect on winning like Marcus with the staggering athleticism and elite talent of Jaylen.
Nobody wears 11 on the Celtics right now, but next year I hope that changes.
Just WOW
31 pts tonight, 11 rebounds, 2-4 from the 3 pt line.
Jackson is a winner... unfortunately at this rate , unless the Celts win the 1st pick, Jackson won't be available
There is a chance that other teams are not convinced about his shooting. Fultz and Ball are more popular than Jackson AFAIK and projected to be #1 and #2 respectively.
For a guy that can't shoot he is shooting the 3 at about 55 percent the last 6 games
Also he did this for the last shot today... Everyone keeps bagging on his shooting and he keeps proving people wrong
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3OSowvAkRKU
His continued bad free throw shooting suggests that this hot streak from 3 is a fluke. Also, as nice as it was to see him hit a clutch free throw, he did miss the first one.
I love Jackson and you obviously do to, but it's OK to admit a guy has a flaw.
Every player has a flaw. Not sure where that gets you on this. The guy played great.
I was responding to the idea that Jacksons shooting is not a flaw right now because he made 1/2 free throws to win the game and he has shot a high % from deep.
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Holy crap.
I have only watched the second half, and I have already decided this was the guy I wanted. Wow. I am beyond impressed. Everything he has done this game has been perfect. I had been and still am a big fan of Fultz and Ball, but now it even appears Jackson has fully corrected that hitch in his form. He has that intangible effect on winning like Marcus with the staggering athleticism and elite talent of Jaylen.
Nobody wears 11 on the Celtics right now, but next year I hope that changes.
Just WOW
31 pts tonight, 11 rebounds, 2-4 from the 3 pt line.
Jackson is a winner... unfortunately at this rate , unless the Celts win the 1st pick, Jackson won't be available
There is a chance that other teams are not convinced about his shooting. Fultz and Ball are more popular than Jackson AFAIK and projected to be #1 and #2 respectively.
For a guy that can't shoot he is shooting the 3 at about 55 percent the last 6 games
Also he did this for the last shot today... Everyone keeps bagging on his shooting and he keeps proving people wrong
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3OSowvAkRKU
Wow. triboy, that 55% from 3 the last six games is IDENTICAL to his FT% for the entire YEAR!!!!
Smitty77
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Holy crap.
I have only watched the second half, and I have already decided this was the guy I wanted. Wow. I am beyond impressed. Everything he has done this game has been perfect. I had been and still am a big fan of Fultz and Ball, but now it even appears Jackson has fully corrected that hitch in his form. He has that intangible effect on winning like Marcus with the staggering athleticism and elite talent of Jaylen.
Nobody wears 11 on the Celtics right now, but next year I hope that changes.
Just WOW
31 pts tonight, 11 rebounds, 2-4 from the 3 pt line.
Jackson is a winner... unfortunately at this rate , unless the Celts win the 1st pick, Jackson won't be available
There is a chance that other teams are not convinced about his shooting. Fultz and Ball are more popular than Jackson AFAIK and projected to be #1 and #2 respectively.
For a guy that can't shoot he is shooting the 3 at about 55 percent the last 6 games
Also he did this for the last shot today... Everyone keeps bagging on his shooting and he keeps proving people wrong
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3OSowvAkRKU
Wow. triboy, that 55% from 3 the last six games is IDENTICAL to his FT% for the entire YEAR!!!!
Smitty77
Before you get too excited Mr. Fultz fan watch this Jackson highlights
31 pts, 11 reb, 4 assist, 1 turnover.. game winning ft
https://www.youtube.com/shared?ci=ckrxUlh-gvo
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Holy crap.
I have only watched the second half, and I have already decided this was the guy I wanted. Wow. I am beyond impressed. Everything he has done this game has been perfect. I had been and still am a big fan of Fultz and Ball, but now it even appears Jackson has fully corrected that hitch in his form. He has that intangible effect on winning like Marcus with the staggering athleticism and elite talent of Jaylen.
Nobody wears 11 on the Celtics right now, but next year I hope that changes.
Just WOW
31 pts tonight, 11 rebounds, 2-4 from the 3 pt line.
Jackson is a winner... unfortunately at this rate , unless the Celts win the 1st pick, Jackson won't be available
There is a chance that other teams are not convinced about his shooting. Fultz and Ball are more popular than Jackson AFAIK and projected to be #1 and #2 respectively.
For a guy that can't shoot he is shooting the 3 at about 55 percent the last 6 games
Also he did this for the last shot today... Everyone keeps bagging on his shooting and he keeps proving people wrong
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3OSowvAkRKU
Wow. triboy, that 55% from 3 the last six games is IDENTICAL to his FT% for the entire YEAR!!!!
Smitty77
Before you get too excited Mr. Fultz fan watch this Jackson highlights
31 pts, 11 reb, 4 assist, 1 turnover.. game winning ft
https://www.youtube.com/shared?ci=ckrxUlh-gvo
You know NOTHING about me IF you think I am a Fultz fan!!!! I have NEVER EVER said I was a Fultz fan!!! Not even verbally, and you of course would NOT know that!!!! NEVER!!!
I am however an Isaac fan!!!!
Smitty77
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Holy crap.
I have only watched the second half, and I have already decided this was the guy I wanted. Wow. I am beyond impressed. Everything he has done this game has been perfect. I had been and still am a big fan of Fultz and Ball, but now it even appears Jackson has fully corrected that hitch in his form. He has that intangible effect on winning like Marcus with the staggering athleticism and elite talent of Jaylen.
Nobody wears 11 on the Celtics right now, but next year I hope that changes.
Just WOW
31 pts tonight, 11 rebounds, 2-4 from the 3 pt line.
Jackson is a winner... unfortunately at this rate , unless the Celts win the 1st pick, Jackson won't be available
There is a chance that other teams are not convinced about his shooting. Fultz and Ball are more popular than Jackson AFAIK and projected to be #1 and #2 respectively.
For a guy that can't shoot he is shooting the 3 at about 55 percent the last 6 games
Also he did this for the last shot today... Everyone keeps bagging on his shooting and he keeps proving people wrong
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3OSowvAkRKU
Wow. triboy, that 55% from 3 the last six games is IDENTICAL to his FT% for the entire YEAR!!!!
Smitty77
Before you get too excited Mr. Fultz fan watch this Jackson highlights
31 pts, 11 reb, 4 assist, 1 turnover.. game winning ft
https://www.youtube.com/shared?ci=ckrxUlh-gvo
You know NOTHING about me IF you think I am a Fultz fan!!!! I have NEVER EVER said I was a Fultz fan!!! Not even verbally, and you of course would NOT know that!!!! NEVER!!!
I am however an Isaac fan!!!!
Smitty77
Isaac was a no-show vs. ND today for whatever that's worth.
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This is great news. The value of our Brooklyn pick keeps climbing as a trading chip too. It is pretty much a given Brooklyn will finish with worst record and therefore guaranteed of picking no worse than 4th. If Isaac continues to play well, a team is guaranteed a stud no matter where the pick lands.
I must say, I would be delighted with any of Ball, Fultz or Jackson. And Isaac as consolation prize.
Wowzer.
yeah great news indeed. Worst case we get a potential all star, best case we land a potential superstar
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Holy crap.
I have only watched the second half, and I have already decided this was the guy I wanted. Wow. I am beyond impressed. Everything he has done this game has been perfect. I had been and still am a big fan of Fultz and Ball, but now it even appears Jackson has fully corrected that hitch in his form. He has that intangible effect on winning like Marcus with the staggering athleticism and elite talent of Jaylen.
Nobody wears 11 on the Celtics right now, but next year I hope that changes.
Just WOW
31 pts tonight, 11 rebounds, 2-4 from the 3 pt line.
Jackson is a winner... unfortunately at this rate , unless the Celts win the 1st pick, Jackson won't be available
There is a chance that other teams are not convinced about his shooting. Fultz and Ball are more popular than Jackson AFAIK and projected to be #1 and #2 respectively.
For a guy that can't shoot he is shooting the 3 at about 55 percent the last 6 games
Also he did this for the last shot today... Everyone keeps bagging on his shooting and he keeps proving people wrong
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3OSowvAkRKU
Wow. triboy, that 55% from 3 the last six games is IDENTICAL to his FT% for the entire YEAR!!!!
Smitty77
Before you get too excited Mr. Fultz fan watch this Jackson highlights
31 pts, 11 reb, 4 assist, 1 turnover.. game winning ft
https://www.youtube.com/shared?ci=ckrxUlh-gvo
You know NOTHING about me IF you think I am a Fultz fan!!!! I have NEVER EVER said I was a Fultz fan!!! Not even verbally, and you of course would NOT know that!!!! NEVER!!!
I am however an Isaac fan!!!!
Smitty77
Isaac was a no-show vs. ND today for whatever that's worth.
Yup only 4 pts from Isaac...
He has been inconsistent the last several games...
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Holy crap.
I have only watched the second half, and I have already decided this was the guy I wanted. Wow. I am beyond impressed. Everything he has done this game has been perfect. I had been and still am a big fan of Fultz and Ball, but now it even appears Jackson has fully corrected that hitch in his form. He has that intangible effect on winning like Marcus with the staggering athleticism and elite talent of Jaylen.
Nobody wears 11 on the Celtics right now, but next year I hope that changes.
Just WOW
31 pts tonight, 11 rebounds, 2-4 from the 3 pt line.
Jackson is a winner... unfortunately at this rate , unless the Celts win the 1st pick, Jackson won't be available
There is a chance that other teams are not convinced about his shooting. Fultz and Ball are more popular than Jackson AFAIK and projected to be #1 and #2 respectively.
For a guy that can't shoot he is shooting the 3 at about 55 percent the last 6 games
Also he did this for the last shot today... Everyone keeps bagging on his shooting and he keeps proving people wrong
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3OSowvAkRKU
Wow. triboy, that 55% from 3 the last six games is IDENTICAL to his FT% for the entire YEAR!!!!
Smitty77
Before you get too excited Mr. Fultz fan watch this Jackson highlights
31 pts, 11 reb, 4 assist, 1 turnover.. game winning ft
https://www.youtube.com/shared?ci=ckrxUlh-gvo
You know NOTHING about me IF you think I am a Fultz fan!!!! I have NEVER EVER said I was a Fultz fan!!! Not even verbally, and you of course would NOT know that!!!! NEVER!!!
I am however an Isaac fan!!!!
Smitty77
Isaac was a no-show vs. ND today for whatever that's worth.
Yup only 4 pts from Isaac...
He has been inconsistent the last several games...
I certainly did NOT expect you to apologize for YOUR BLATANT and FALSE statement of me being a Fultz fan. Man up triboy and apologize!!! Can you do that?????????????
Did you watch the NC State game?? I did. He scored the first 7 points in a 7-0 start triboy. He scored 21 points, had 7 rebounds, 1 block, and 1 steal in ONLY 24 stinking minutes!!!!! That is inconsistent HOW triboy??????????
He did have a bad game vs. Clemson in a game they won by 48.
In the game before that, Miami, he had 15 points, 7 rebounds, 2 assists, 3 steals, and 1 block.
And the 4 point game tonight was bad, but he ONLY took 6 shots, and he did have 6 rebounds, 3 steals, and 1 block.
Now, back to that apology about calling me a Fultz fan. I am waiting very IMPATIENTLY!!!!
Smitty77
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Holy crap.
I have only watched the second half, and I have already decided this was the guy I wanted. Wow. I am beyond impressed. Everything he has done this game has been perfect. I had been and still am a big fan of Fultz and Ball, but now it even appears Jackson has fully corrected that hitch in his form. He has that intangible effect on winning like Marcus with the staggering athleticism and elite talent of Jaylen.
Nobody wears 11 on the Celtics right now, but next year I hope that changes.
Just WOW
31 pts tonight, 11 rebounds, 2-4 from the 3 pt line.
Jackson is a winner... unfortunately at this rate , unless the Celts win the 1st pick, Jackson won't be available
There is a chance that other teams are not convinced about his shooting. Fultz and Ball are more popular than Jackson AFAIK and projected to be #1 and #2 respectively.
For a guy that can't shoot he is shooting the 3 at about 55 percent the last 6 games
Also he did this for the last shot today... Everyone keeps bagging on his shooting and he keeps proving people wrong
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3OSowvAkRKU
Wow. triboy, that 55% from 3 the last six games is IDENTICAL to his FT% for the entire YEAR!!!!
Smitty77
Before you get too excited Mr. Fultz fan watch this Jackson highlights
31 pts, 11 reb, 4 assist, 1 turnover.. game winning ft
https://www.youtube.com/shared?ci=ckrxUlh-gvo
You know NOTHING about me IF you think I am a Fultz fan!!!! I have NEVER EVER said I was a Fultz fan!!! Not even verbally, and you of course would NOT know that!!!! NEVER!!!
I am however an Isaac fan!!!!
Smitty77
Isaac was a no-show vs. ND today for whatever that's worth.
Yup only 4 pts from Isaac...
He has been inconsistent the last several games...
I certainly did NOT expect you to apologize for YOUR BLATANT and FALSE statement of me being a Fultz fan. Man up triboy and apologize!!! Can you do that?????????????
Did you watch the NC State game?? I did. He scored the first 7 points in a 7-0 start triboy. He scored 21 points, had 7 rebounds, 1 block, and 1 steal in ONLY 24 stinking minutes!!!!! That is inconsistent HOW triboy??????????
He did have a bad game vs. Clemson in a game they won by 48.
In the game before that, Miami, he had 15 points, 7 rebounds, 2 assists, 3 steals, and 1 block.
And the 4 point game tonight was bad, but he ONLY took 6 shots, and he did have 6 rebounds, 3 steals, and 1 block.
Now, back to that apology about calling me a Fultz fan. I am waiting very IMPATIENTLY!!!!
Smitty77
ok ok Mr Isaac Fan... how dare I say you are a fan of Fultz
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Holy crap.
I have only watched the second half, and I have already decided this was the guy I wanted. Wow. I am beyond impressed. Everything he has done this game has been perfect. I had been and still am a big fan of Fultz and Ball, but now it even appears Jackson has fully corrected that hitch in his form. He has that intangible effect on winning like Marcus with the staggering athleticism and elite talent of Jaylen.
Nobody wears 11 on the Celtics right now, but next year I hope that changes.
Just WOW
31 pts tonight, 11 rebounds, 2-4 from the 3 pt line.
Jackson is a winner... unfortunately at this rate , unless the Celts win the 1st pick, Jackson won't be available
There is a chance that other teams are not convinced about his shooting. Fultz and Ball are more popular than Jackson AFAIK and projected to be #1 and #2 respectively.
For a guy that can't shoot he is shooting the 3 at about 55 percent the last 6 games
Also he did this for the last shot today... Everyone keeps bagging on his shooting and he keeps proving people wrong
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3OSowvAkRKU
Wow. triboy, that 55% from 3 the last six games is IDENTICAL to his FT% for the entire YEAR!!!!
Smitty77
Before you get too excited Mr. Fultz fan watch this Jackson highlights
31 pts, 11 reb, 4 assist, 1 turnover.. game winning ft
https://www.youtube.com/shared?ci=ckrxUlh-gvo
You know NOTHING about me IF you think I am a Fultz fan!!!! I have NEVER EVER said I was a Fultz fan!!! Not even verbally, and you of course would NOT know that!!!! NEVER!!!
I am however an Isaac fan!!!!
Smitty77
Isaac was a no-show vs. ND today for whatever that's worth.
Yup only 4 pts from Isaac...
He has been inconsistent the last several games...
I certainly did NOT expect you to apologize for YOUR BLATANT and FALSE statement of me being a Fultz fan. Man up triboy and apologize!!! Can you do that?????????????
Did you watch the NC State game?? I did. He scored the first 7 points in a 7-0 start triboy. He scored 21 points, had 7 rebounds, 1 block, and 1 steal in ONLY 24 stinking minutes!!!!! That is inconsistent HOW triboy??????????
He did have a bad game vs. Clemson in a game they won by 48.
In the game before that, Miami, he had 15 points, 7 rebounds, 2 assists, 3 steals, and 1 block.
And the 4 point game tonight was bad, but he ONLY took 6 shots, and he did have 6 rebounds, 3 steals, and 1 block.
Now, back to that apology about calling me a Fultz fan. I am waiting very IMPATIENTLY!!!!
Smitty77
Are you gonna apologize for not knowing what inconsistent means.
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Holy crap.
I have only watched the second half, and I have already decided this was the guy I wanted. Wow. I am beyond impressed. Everything he has done this game has been perfect. I had been and still am a big fan of Fultz and Ball, but now it even appears Jackson has fully corrected that hitch in his form. He has that intangible effect on winning like Marcus with the staggering athleticism and elite talent of Jaylen.
Nobody wears 11 on the Celtics right now, but next year I hope that changes.
Just WOW
31 pts tonight, 11 rebounds, 2-4 from the 3 pt line.
Jackson is a winner... unfortunately at this rate , unless the Celts win the 1st pick, Jackson won't be available
There is a chance that other teams are not convinced about his shooting. Fultz and Ball are more popular than Jackson AFAIK and projected to be #1 and #2 respectively.
For a guy that can't shoot he is shooting the 3 at about 55 percent the last 6 games
Also he did this for the last shot today... Everyone keeps bagging on his shooting and he keeps proving people wrong
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3OSowvAkRKU
Wow. triboy, that 55% from 3 the last six games is IDENTICAL to his FT% for the entire YEAR!!!!
Smitty77
Before you get too excited Mr. Fultz fan watch this Jackson highlights
31 pts, 11 reb, 4 assist, 1 turnover.. game winning ft
https://www.youtube.com/shared?ci=ckrxUlh-gvo
You know NOTHING about me IF you think I am a Fultz fan!!!! I have NEVER EVER said I was a Fultz fan!!! Not even verbally, and you of course would NOT know that!!!! NEVER!!!
I am however an Isaac fan!!!!
Smitty77
Isaac was a no-show vs. ND today for whatever that's worth.
Yup only 4 pts from Isaac...
He has been inconsistent the last several games...
I certainly did NOT expect you to apologize for YOUR BLATANT and FALSE statement of me being a Fultz fan. Man up triboy and apologize!!! Can you do that?????????????
Did you watch the NC State game?? I did. He scored the first 7 points in a 7-0 start triboy. He scored 21 points, had 7 rebounds, 1 block, and 1 steal in ONLY 24 stinking minutes!!!!! That is inconsistent HOW triboy??????????
He did have a bad game vs. Clemson in a game they won by 48.
In the game before that, Miami, he had 15 points, 7 rebounds, 2 assists, 3 steals, and 1 block.
And the 4 point game tonight was bad, but he ONLY took 6 shots, and he did have 6 rebounds, 3 steals, and 1 block.
Now, back to that apology about calling me a Fultz fan. I am waiting very IMPATIENTLY!!!!
Smitty77
Isaac is still a nice looking prospect, but can you really say he is better than Jackson at this point?
There is more to the game than a picture perfect jump shooting stroke....
While Isaacs upside is no doubt higher than Jackson's, Jackson is amazing right now. He is playing better and better while the season is getting more stressful. More scouts coming to see him. It isn't phasing him
You can laugh at his FT shooting percentage (almost identical to his 3 pt shooting percentage - last 6 games) but because he does almost everything else at a top level, this little weakness doesn't really matter at this point
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Holy crap.
I have only watched the second half, and I have already decided this was the guy I wanted. Wow. I am beyond impressed. Everything he has done this game has been perfect. I had been and still am a big fan of Fultz and Ball, but now it even appears Jackson has fully corrected that hitch in his form. He has that intangible effect on winning like Marcus with the staggering athleticism and elite talent of Jaylen.
Nobody wears 11 on the Celtics right now, but next year I hope that changes.
Just WOW
31 pts tonight, 11 rebounds, 2-4 from the 3 pt line.
Jackson is a winner... unfortunately at this rate , unless the Celts win the 1st pick, Jackson won't be available
There is a chance that other teams are not convinced about his shooting. Fultz and Ball are more popular than Jackson AFAIK and projected to be #1 and #2 respectively.
For a guy that can't shoot he is shooting the 3 at about 55 percent the last 6 games
Also he did this for the last shot today... Everyone keeps bagging on his shooting and he keeps proving people wrong
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3OSowvAkRKU
Wow. triboy, that 55% from 3 the last six games is IDENTICAL to his FT% for the entire YEAR!!!!
Smitty77
Before you get too excited Mr. Fultz fan watch this Jackson highlights
31 pts, 11 reb, 4 assist, 1 turnover.. game winning ft
https://www.youtube.com/shared?ci=ckrxUlh-gvo
You know NOTHING about me IF you think I am a Fultz fan!!!! I have NEVER EVER said I was a Fultz fan!!! Not even verbally, and you of course would NOT know that!!!! NEVER!!!
I am however an Isaac fan!!!!
Smitty77
Isaac was a no-show vs. ND today for whatever that's worth.
Yup only 4 pts from Isaac...
He has been inconsistent the last several games...
I certainly did NOT expect you to apologize for YOUR BLATANT and FALSE statement of me being a Fultz fan. Man up triboy and apologize!!! Can you do that?????????????
Did you watch the NC State game?? I did. He scored the first 7 points in a 7-0 start triboy. He scored 21 points, had 7 rebounds, 1 block, and 1 steal in ONLY 24 stinking minutes!!!!! That is inconsistent HOW triboy??????????
He did have a bad game vs. Clemson in a game they won by 48.
In the game before that, Miami, he had 15 points, 7 rebounds, 2 assists, 3 steals, and 1 block.
And the 4 point game tonight was bad, but he ONLY took 6 shots, and he did have 6 rebounds, 3 steals, and 1 block.
Now, back to that apology about calling me a Fultz fan. I am waiting very IMPATIENTLY!!!!
Smitty77
ok ok Mr Isaac Fan... how dare I say you are a fan of Fultz
If that's as close to an apology as I am going to get, I will take it:-))
Smitty77
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Holy crap.
I have only watched the second half, and I have already decided this was the guy I wanted. Wow. I am beyond impressed. Everything he has done this game has been perfect. I had been and still am a big fan of Fultz and Ball, but now it even appears Jackson has fully corrected that hitch in his form. He has that intangible effect on winning like Marcus with the staggering athleticism and elite talent of Jaylen.
Nobody wears 11 on the Celtics right now, but next year I hope that changes.
Just WOW
31 pts tonight, 11 rebounds, 2-4 from the 3 pt line.
Jackson is a winner... unfortunately at this rate , unless the Celts win the 1st pick, Jackson won't be available
There is a chance that other teams are not convinced about his shooting. Fultz and Ball are more popular than Jackson AFAIK and projected to be #1 and #2 respectively.
For a guy that can't shoot he is shooting the 3 at about 55 percent the last 6 games
Also he did this for the last shot today... Everyone keeps bagging on his shooting and he keeps proving people wrong
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3OSowvAkRKU
Wow. triboy, that 55% from 3 the last six games is IDENTICAL to his FT% for the entire YEAR!!!!
Smitty77
Before you get too excited Mr. Fultz fan watch this Jackson highlights
31 pts, 11 reb, 4 assist, 1 turnover.. game winning ft
https://www.youtube.com/shared?ci=ckrxUlh-gvo
You know NOTHING about me IF you think I am a Fultz fan!!!! I have NEVER EVER said I was a Fultz fan!!! Not even verbally, and you of course would NOT know that!!!! NEVER!!!
I am however an Isaac fan!!!!
Smitty77
Isaac was a no-show vs. ND today for whatever that's worth.
Yup only 4 pts from Isaac...
He has been inconsistent the last several games...
I certainly did NOT expect you to apologize for YOUR BLATANT and FALSE statement of me being a Fultz fan. Man up triboy and apologize!!! Can you do that?????????????
Did you watch the NC State game?? I did. He scored the first 7 points in a 7-0 start triboy. He scored 21 points, had 7 rebounds, 1 block, and 1 steal in ONLY 24 stinking minutes!!!!! That is inconsistent HOW triboy??????????
He did have a bad game vs. Clemson in a game they won by 48.
In the game before that, Miami, he had 15 points, 7 rebounds, 2 assists, 3 steals, and 1 block.
And the 4 point game tonight was bad, but he ONLY took 6 shots, and he did have 6 rebounds, 3 steals, and 1 block.
Now, back to that apology about calling me a Fultz fan. I am waiting very IMPATIENTLY!!!!
Smitty77
Are you gonna apologize for not knowing what inconsistent means.
Are you triboy's BIG brother???:-)))) I am feeling GANGED up on here:-))) I need to find a safe zone:_)))))
I do think that triboy is a BIG boy and can really take up for himself.
Also, I will take 3 steal on a BAD night any time. Have you watched him played perimeter D?? I have NOT seen a 6'10" play perimeter D like this in my lifetime, and I am about to turn 52.
Smitty77
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Holy crap.
I have only watched the second half, and I have already decided this was the guy I wanted. Wow. I am beyond impressed. Everything he has done this game has been perfect. I had been and still am a big fan of Fultz and Ball, but now it even appears Jackson has fully corrected that hitch in his form. He has that intangible effect on winning like Marcus with the staggering athleticism and elite talent of Jaylen.
Nobody wears 11 on the Celtics right now, but next year I hope that changes.
Just WOW
31 pts tonight, 11 rebounds, 2-4 from the 3 pt line.
Jackson is a winner... unfortunately at this rate , unless the Celts win the 1st pick, Jackson won't be available
There is a chance that other teams are not convinced about his shooting. Fultz and Ball are more popular than Jackson AFAIK and projected to be #1 and #2 respectively.
For a guy that can't shoot he is shooting the 3 at about 55 percent the last 6 games
Also he did this for the last shot today... Everyone keeps bagging on his shooting and he keeps proving people wrong
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3OSowvAkRKU
Wow. triboy, that 55% from 3 the last six games is IDENTICAL to his FT% for the entire YEAR!!!!
Smitty77
Before you get too excited Mr. Fultz fan watch this Jackson highlights
31 pts, 11 reb, 4 assist, 1 turnover.. game winning ft
https://www.youtube.com/shared?ci=ckrxUlh-gvo
You know NOTHING about me IF you think I am a Fultz fan!!!! I have NEVER EVER said I was a Fultz fan!!! Not even verbally, and you of course would NOT know that!!!! NEVER!!!
I am however an Isaac fan!!!!
Smitty77
Isaac was a no-show vs. ND today for whatever that's worth.
Yup only 4 pts from Isaac...
He has been inconsistent the last several games...
I certainly did NOT expect you to apologize for YOUR BLATANT and FALSE statement of me being a Fultz fan. Man up triboy and apologize!!! Can you do that?????????????
Did you watch the NC State game?? I did. He scored the first 7 points in a 7-0 start triboy. He scored 21 points, had 7 rebounds, 1 block, and 1 steal in ONLY 24 stinking minutes!!!!! That is inconsistent HOW triboy??????????
He did have a bad game vs. Clemson in a game they won by 48.
In the game before that, Miami, he had 15 points, 7 rebounds, 2 assists, 3 steals, and 1 block.
And the 4 point game tonight was bad, but he ONLY took 6 shots, and he did have 6 rebounds, 3 steals, and 1 block.
Now, back to that apology about calling me a Fultz fan. I am waiting very IMPATIENTLY!!!!
Smitty77
Isaac is still a nice looking prospect, but can you really say he is better than Jackson at this point?
There is more to the game than a picture perfect jump shooting stroke....
While Isaacs upside is no doubt higher than Jackson's, Jackson is amazing right now. He is playing better and better while the season is getting more stressful. More scouts coming to see him. It isn't phasing him
You can laugh at his FT shooting percentage (almost identical to his 3 pt shooting percentage - last 6 games) but because he does almost everything else at a top level, this little weakness doesn't really matter at this point
My real argument here is that we do NOT need a PG/SG (see Fultz and Ball) and we do NOT need a SF IMHO!! Jackson is either a SG or a SF at the next level. Why did we draft Jaylen Brown this past year? That is my argument and where I am coming from. I think that Isaac will put on weight and will be able to play 4 positions in his career.
That being said, Jackson is a GREAT player and he WILL become a better FT shooter!!!!:-)))))
Smitty77
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Holy crap.
I have only watched the second half, and I have already decided this was the guy I wanted. Wow. I am beyond impressed. Everything he has done this game has been perfect. I had been and still am a big fan of Fultz and Ball, but now it even appears Jackson has fully corrected that hitch in his form. He has that intangible effect on winning like Marcus with the staggering athleticism and elite talent of Jaylen.
Nobody wears 11 on the Celtics right now, but next year I hope that changes.
Just WOW
31 pts tonight, 11 rebounds, 2-4 from the 3 pt line.
Jackson is a winner... unfortunately at this rate , unless the Celts win the 1st pick, Jackson won't be available
There is a chance that other teams are not convinced about his shooting. Fultz and Ball are more popular than Jackson AFAIK and projected to be #1 and #2 respectively.
For a guy that can't shoot he is shooting the 3 at about 55 percent the last 6 games
Also he did this for the last shot today... Everyone keeps bagging on his shooting and he keeps proving people wrong
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3OSowvAkRKU
Wow. triboy, that 55% from 3 the last six games is IDENTICAL to his FT% for the entire YEAR!!!!
Smitty77
Before you get too excited Mr. Fultz fan watch this Jackson highlights
31 pts, 11 reb, 4 assist, 1 turnover.. game winning ft
https://www.youtube.com/shared?ci=ckrxUlh-gvo
You know NOTHING about me IF you think I am a Fultz fan!!!! I have NEVER EVER said I was a Fultz fan!!! Not even verbally, and you of course would NOT know that!!!! NEVER!!!
I am however an Isaac fan!!!!
Smitty77
Isaac was a no-show vs. ND today for whatever that's worth.
Yup only 4 pts from Isaac...
He has been inconsistent the last several games...
I certainly did NOT expect you to apologize for YOUR BLATANT and FALSE statement of me being a Fultz fan. Man up triboy and apologize!!! Can you do that?????????????
Did you watch the NC State game?? I did. He scored the first 7 points in a 7-0 start triboy. He scored 21 points, had 7 rebounds, 1 block, and 1 steal in ONLY 24 stinking minutes!!!!! That is inconsistent HOW triboy??????????
He did have a bad game vs. Clemson in a game they won by 48.
In the game before that, Miami, he had 15 points, 7 rebounds, 2 assists, 3 steals, and 1 block.
And the 4 point game tonight was bad, but he ONLY took 6 shots, and he did have 6 rebounds, 3 steals, and 1 block.
Now, back to that apology about calling me a Fultz fan. I am waiting very IMPATIENTLY!!!!
Smitty77
Isaac is still a nice looking prospect, but can you really say he is better than Jackson at this point?
There is more to the game than a picture perfect jump shooting stroke....
While Isaacs upside is no doubt higher than Jackson's, Jackson is amazing right now. He is playing better and better while the season is getting more stressful. More scouts coming to see him. It isn't phasing him
You can laugh at his FT shooting percentage (almost identical to his 3 pt shooting percentage - last 6 games) but because he does almost everything else at a top level, this little weakness doesn't really matter at this point
My real argument here is that we do NOT need a PG/SG (see Fultz and Ball) and we do NOT need a SF IMHO!! Jackson is either a SG or a SF at the next level. Why did we draft Jaylen Brown this past year? That is my argument and where I am coming from. I think that Isaac will put on weight and will be able to play 4 positions in his career.
That being said, Jackson is a GREAT player and he WILL become a better FT shooter!!!!:-)))))
Smitty77
Jackson is a great rebounder and could play 4 once he fill his body out.
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Holy crap.
I have only watched the second half, and I have already decided this was the guy I wanted. Wow. I am beyond impressed. Everything he has done this game has been perfect. I had been and still am a big fan of Fultz and Ball, but now it even appears Jackson has fully corrected that hitch in his form. He has that intangible effect on winning like Marcus with the staggering athleticism and elite talent of Jaylen.
Nobody wears 11 on the Celtics right now, but next year I hope that changes.
Just WOW
31 pts tonight, 11 rebounds, 2-4 from the 3 pt line.
Jackson is a winner... unfortunately at this rate , unless the Celts win the 1st pick, Jackson won't be available
There is a chance that other teams are not convinced about his shooting. Fultz and Ball are more popular than Jackson AFAIK and projected to be #1 and #2 respectively.
For a guy that can't shoot he is shooting the 3 at about 55 percent the last 6 games
Also he did this for the last shot today... Everyone keeps bagging on his shooting and he keeps proving people wrong
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3OSowvAkRKU
Wow. triboy, that 55% from 3 the last six games is IDENTICAL to his FT% for the entire YEAR!!!!
Smitty77
Before you get too excited Mr. Fultz fan watch this Jackson highlights
31 pts, 11 reb, 4 assist, 1 turnover.. game winning ft
https://www.youtube.com/shared?ci=ckrxUlh-gvo
You know NOTHING about me IF you think I am a Fultz fan!!!! I have NEVER EVER said I was a Fultz fan!!! Not even verbally, and you of course would NOT know that!!!! NEVER!!!
I am however an Isaac fan!!!!
Smitty77
Isaac was a no-show vs. ND today for whatever that's worth.
Yup only 4 pts from Isaac...
He has been inconsistent the last several games...
I certainly did NOT expect you to apologize for YOUR BLATANT and FALSE statement of me being a Fultz fan. Man up triboy and apologize!!! Can you do that?????????????
Did you watch the NC State game?? I did. He scored the first 7 points in a 7-0 start triboy. He scored 21 points, had 7 rebounds, 1 block, and 1 steal in ONLY 24 stinking minutes!!!!! That is inconsistent HOW triboy??????????
He did have a bad game vs. Clemson in a game they won by 48.
In the game before that, Miami, he had 15 points, 7 rebounds, 2 assists, 3 steals, and 1 block.
And the 4 point game tonight was bad, but he ONLY took 6 shots, and he did have 6 rebounds, 3 steals, and 1 block.
Now, back to that apology about calling me a Fultz fan. I am waiting very IMPATIENTLY!!!!
Smitty77
Isaac is still a nice looking prospect, but can you really say he is better than Jackson at this point?
There is more to the game than a picture perfect jump shooting stroke....
While Isaacs upside is no doubt higher than Jackson's, Jackson is amazing right now. He is playing better and better while the season is getting more stressful. More scouts coming to see him. It isn't phasing him
You can laugh at his FT shooting percentage (almost identical to his 3 pt shooting percentage - last 6 games) but because he does almost everything else at a top level, this little weakness doesn't really matter at this point
My real argument here is that we do NOT need a PG/SG (see Fultz and Ball) and we do NOT need a SF IMHO!! Jackson is either a SG or a SF at the next level. Why did we draft Jaylen Brown this past year? That is my argument and where I am coming from. I think that Isaac will put on weight and will be able to play 4 positions in his career.
That being said, Jackson is a GREAT player and he WILL become a better FT shooter!!!!:-)))))
Smitty77
Jackson is a great rebounder and could play 4 once he fill his body out.
He could play PF in the NBA, but he likely will NOT!!
From nbadraft.net:
Measured 6'7.75 (in shoes) 203 lbs, with a 6'9.75’’ wingspan at the 2016 Hoop Summit ... Also measured an 8’3’’ standing reach at the Hoop Summit, but this measurement could have been sanEdited. Profanity and masked profanity are against forum rules and may result in discipline.ged to get a higher vertical leap number, or simply erroneous ... He’s measured a 8’8.5’’-8’9.75’’ standing reach at various USA Basketball camps over the years.
He is listed as a SG/SF on nbadraft.net as well:
http://www.nbadraft.net/players/josh-jackson
As for Isaac, he is listed as a SF/PF:
http://www.nbadraft.net/players/jonathan-isaac
Here are his measurements from 2015 from the same site:
Notes: Measured 6’10’’ in shoes, with a 7'0’’ wingspan and 185 lbs at the 2015 Nike Basketball Academy ...
Here are more updated measurements from 2016:
2016 Hoop Summit NA 6' 10.5" 205 7' 1.25" 9' 0.5" NA NA NA
Those are QUITE DIFFERENT!!!!
Smitty77
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Holy crap.
I have only watched the second half, and I have already decided this was the guy I wanted. Wow. I am beyond impressed. Everything he has done this game has been perfect. I had been and still am a big fan of Fultz and Ball, but now it even appears Jackson has fully corrected that hitch in his form. He has that intangible effect on winning like Marcus with the staggering athleticism and elite talent of Jaylen.
Nobody wears 11 on the Celtics right now, but next year I hope that changes.
Just WOW
31 pts tonight, 11 rebounds, 2-4 from the 3 pt line.
Jackson is a winner... unfortunately at this rate , unless the Celts win the 1st pick, Jackson won't be available
There is a chance that other teams are not convinced about his shooting. Fultz and Ball are more popular than Jackson AFAIK and projected to be #1 and #2 respectively.
For a guy that can't shoot he is shooting the 3 at about 55 percent the last 6 games
Also he did this for the last shot today... Everyone keeps bagging on his shooting and he keeps proving people wrong
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3OSowvAkRKU
Wow. triboy, that 55% from 3 the last six games is IDENTICAL to his FT% for the entire YEAR!!!!
Smitty77
Before you get too excited Mr. Fultz fan watch this Jackson highlights
31 pts, 11 reb, 4 assist, 1 turnover.. game winning ft
https://www.youtube.com/shared?ci=ckrxUlh-gvo
You know NOTHING about me IF you think I am a Fultz fan!!!! I have NEVER EVER said I was a Fultz fan!!! Not even verbally, and you of course would NOT know that!!!! NEVER!!!
I am however an Isaac fan!!!!
Smitty77
Isaac was a no-show vs. ND today for whatever that's worth.
Yup only 4 pts from Isaac...
He has been inconsistent the last several games...
I certainly did NOT expect you to apologize for YOUR BLATANT and FALSE statement of me being a Fultz fan. Man up triboy and apologize!!! Can you do that?????????????
Did you watch the NC State game?? I did. He scored the first 7 points in a 7-0 start triboy. He scored 21 points, had 7 rebounds, 1 block, and 1 steal in ONLY 24 stinking minutes!!!!! That is inconsistent HOW triboy??????????
He did have a bad game vs. Clemson in a game they won by 48.
In the game before that, Miami, he had 15 points, 7 rebounds, 2 assists, 3 steals, and 1 block.
And the 4 point game tonight was bad, but he ONLY took 6 shots, and he did have 6 rebounds, 3 steals, and 1 block.
Now, back to that apology about calling me a Fultz fan. I am waiting very IMPATIENTLY!!!!
Smitty77
Isaac is still a nice looking prospect, but can you really say he is better than Jackson at this point?
There is more to the game than a picture perfect jump shooting stroke....
While Isaacs upside is no doubt higher than Jackson's, Jackson is amazing right now. He is playing better and better while the season is getting more stressful. More scouts coming to see him. It isn't phasing him
You can laugh at his FT shooting percentage (almost identical to his 3 pt shooting percentage - last 6 games) but because he does almost everything else at a top level, this little weakness doesn't really matter at this point
My real argument here is that we do NOT need a PG/SG (see Fultz and Ball) and we do NOT need a SF IMHO!! Jackson is either a SG or a SF at the next level. Why did we draft Jaylen Brown this past year? That is my argument and where I am coming from. I think that Isaac will put on weight and will be able to play 4 positions in his career.
That being said, Jackson is a GREAT player and he WILL become a better FT shooter!!!!:-)))))
Smitty77
Jackson is a great rebounder and could play 4 once he fill his body out.
He could play PF in the NBA, but he likely will NOT!!
From nbadraft.net:
Measured 6'7.75 (in shoes) 203 lbs, with a 6'9.75’’ wingspan at the 2016 Hoop Summit ... Also measured an 8’3’’ standing reach at the Hoop Summit, but this measurement could have been san****ged to get a higher vertical leap number, or simply erroneous ... He’s measured a 8’8.5’’-8’9.75’’ standing reach at various USA Basketball camps over the years.
He is listed as a SG/SF on nbadraft.net as well:
http://www.nbadraft.net/players/josh-jackson
As for Isaac, he is listed as a SF/PF:
http://www.nbadraft.net/players/jonathan-isaac
Here are his measurements from 2015 from the same site:
Notes: Measured 6’10’’ in shoes, with a 7'0’’ wingspan and 185 lbs at the 2015 Nike Basketball Academy ...
Here are more updated measurements from 2016:
2016 Hoop Summit NA 6' 10.5" 205 7' 1.25" 9' 0.5" NA NA NA
Those are QUITE DIFFERENT!!!!
Smitty77
Jackson does not have a 8'3 reach... for sure that measurement was an error
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Holy crap.
I have only watched the second half, and I have already decided this was the guy I wanted. Wow. I am beyond impressed. Everything he has done this game has been perfect. I had been and still am a big fan of Fultz and Ball, but now it even appears Jackson has fully corrected that hitch in his form. He has that intangible effect on winning like Marcus with the staggering athleticism and elite talent of Jaylen.
Nobody wears 11 on the Celtics right now, but next year I hope that changes.
Just WOW
31 pts tonight, 11 rebounds, 2-4 from the 3 pt line.
Jackson is a winner... unfortunately at this rate , unless the Celts win the 1st pick, Jackson won't be available
There is a chance that other teams are not convinced about his shooting. Fultz and Ball are more popular than Jackson AFAIK and projected to be #1 and #2 respectively.
For a guy that can't shoot he is shooting the 3 at about 55 percent the last 6 games
Also he did this for the last shot today... Everyone keeps bagging on his shooting and he keeps proving people wrong
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3OSowvAkRKU
Wow. triboy, that 55% from 3 the last six games is IDENTICAL to his FT% for the entire YEAR!!!!
Smitty77
Before you get too excited Mr. Fultz fan watch this Jackson highlights
31 pts, 11 reb, 4 assist, 1 turnover.. game winning ft
https://www.youtube.com/shared?ci=ckrxUlh-gvo
You know NOTHING about me IF you think I am a Fultz fan!!!! I have NEVER EVER said I was a Fultz fan!!! Not even verbally, and you of course would NOT know that!!!! NEVER!!!
I am however an Isaac fan!!!!
Smitty77
Isaac was a no-show vs. ND today for whatever that's worth.
Yup only 4 pts from Isaac...
He has been inconsistent the last several games...
I certainly did NOT expect you to apologize for YOUR BLATANT and FALSE statement of me being a Fultz fan. Man up triboy and apologize!!! Can you do that?????????????
Did you watch the NC State game?? I did. He scored the first 7 points in a 7-0 start triboy. He scored 21 points, had 7 rebounds, 1 block, and 1 steal in ONLY 24 stinking minutes!!!!! That is inconsistent HOW triboy??????????
He did have a bad game vs. Clemson in a game they won by 48.
In the game before that, Miami, he had 15 points, 7 rebounds, 2 assists, 3 steals, and 1 block.
And the 4 point game tonight was bad, but he ONLY took 6 shots, and he did have 6 rebounds, 3 steals, and 1 block.
Now, back to that apology about calling me a Fultz fan. I am waiting very IMPATIENTLY!!!!
Smitty77
Isaac is still a nice looking prospect, but can you really say he is better than Jackson at this point?
There is more to the game than a picture perfect jump shooting stroke....
While Isaacs upside is no doubt higher than Jackson's, Jackson is amazing right now. He is playing better and better while the season is getting more stressful. More scouts coming to see him. It isn't phasing him
You can laugh at his FT shooting percentage (almost identical to his 3 pt shooting percentage - last 6 games) but because he does almost everything else at a top level, this little weakness doesn't really matter at this point
My real argument here is that we do NOT need a PG/SG (see Fultz and Ball) and we do NOT need a SF IMHO!! Jackson is either a SG or a SF at the next level. Why did we draft Jaylen Brown this past year? That is my argument and where I am coming from. I think that Isaac will put on weight and will be able to play 4 positions in his career.
That being said, Jackson is a GREAT player and he WILL become a better FT shooter!!!!:-)))))
Smitty77
Jackson is a great rebounder and could play 4 once he fill his body out.
He could play PF in the NBA, but he likely will NOT!!
From nbadraft.net:
Measured 6'7.75 (in shoes) 203 lbs, with a 6'9.75’’ wingspan at the 2016 Hoop Summit ... Also measured an 8’3’’ standing reach at the Hoop Summit, but this measurement could have been san****ged to get a higher vertical leap number, or simply erroneous ... He’s measured a 8’8.5’’-8’9.75’’ standing reach at various USA Basketball camps over the years.
He is listed as a SG/SF on nbadraft.net as well:
http://www.nbadraft.net/players/josh-jackson
As for Isaac, he is listed as a SF/PF:
http://www.nbadraft.net/players/jonathan-isaac
Here are his measurements from 2015 from the same site:
Notes: Measured 6’10’’ in shoes, with a 7'0’’ wingspan and 185 lbs at the 2015 Nike Basketball Academy ...
Here are more updated measurements from 2016:
2016 Hoop Summit NA 6' 10.5" 205 7' 1.25" 9' 0.5" NA NA NA
Those are QUITE DIFFERENT!!!!
Smitty77
Im not sure I buy that we dont need a SF. What Im seeing is that Jaylen has some real advantages playing the 2 with his ability to post up. I can see them keeping him there long term. In addition, i think this team is fairly small on the wing. They only have 2 guys with any size on the wing. I think that is a legit issue on this team. Another wing with length would be a great thing in my book.
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I in NO way will be upset if we end up with Jax!! He is more ready to help NOW than Isaac, but I think Isaac ends up being the BEST player taken in this draft.
Smitty77
P.S. You make a decent argument about our SF situation too.
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How is he 20 as a freshman? I was 17 my freshman year
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How is he 20 as a freshman? I was 17 my freshman year
Must have been held back. Usually college freshman go in at 18, and turn 19 sometime during the year. He just turned 20 on February 10th, so he seems to be the perfect age for a sophomore.
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How is he 20 as a freshman? I was 17 my freshman year
Must have been held back. Usually college freshman go in at 18, and turn 19 sometime during the year. He just turned 20 on February 10th, so he seems to be the perfect age for a sophomore.
interesting, maybe his parents held him back a year for an athletic advantage
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WOW
just WOW
my favourite draft prospect for the C's!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kh3PRRFhBsc
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WOW
just WOW
my favourite draft prospect for the C's!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kh3PRRFhBsc
Very nice game. Pressure doesnt seem like it phases Jackson
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How is he 20 as a freshman? I was 17 my freshman year
Usually that means he had academic issues.
When was his birthday? Maybe he just turned 20. Entering college at 19 is only 1 year behind.
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He reminds me of Dr. J, not just the 'fro, the way he glides around the court. He doesn't force anything, let's the game come to him.
He would be able to contribute right away to an NBA team, probably more so than Fultz or Ball. Very poised.
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Very skilled player.
But I remain concerned about the off-court stuff. There's now a car vandalism that his name has been attached to in the media.
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/18609289/lagerald-vick-josh-jackson-kansas-jayhawks-eyed-vandalism-case
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Very skilled player.
But I remain concerned about the off-court stuff. There's now a car vandalism that his name has been attached to in the media.
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/18609289/lagerald-vick-josh-jackson-kansas-jayhawks-eyed-vandalism-case
Well that's not good.
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Very skilled player.
But I remain concerned about the off-court stuff. There's now a car vandalism that his name has been attached to in the media.
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/18609289/lagerald-vick-josh-jackson-kansas-jayhawks-eyed-vandalism-case
thanks for the article. but you say "remain." what else causes concern in this area for you?
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Very skilled player.
But I remain concerned about the off-court stuff. There's now a car vandalism that his name has been attached to in the media.
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/18609289/lagerald-vick-josh-jackson-kansas-jayhawks-eyed-vandalism-case
not really concerned about this
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He reminds me of Dr. J, not just the 'fro, the way he glides around the court. He doesn't force anything, let's the game come to him.
He would be able to contribute right away to an NBA team, probably more so than Fultz or Ball. Very poised.
I agree
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Anyone watching WVU vs. Kansas right now?
just looking at the box score Jackson is 3-12 with just 12 points but he does have 9 rebounds 4 steals and perhaps most importantly 6-8 on free throws.
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If he had range and a consistent jump shot, he'd be in consideration for the first pick.
If Boston picks 3 or 4, he might be in a Celtics uniform next season.
Long term who has more upside: Jackson, Isaac or Fultz?
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Kawhi, Durant, Lillard? I'll take any of em....
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If he had range and a consistent jump shot, he'd be in consideration for the first pick.
If Boston picks 3 or 4, he might be in a Celtics uniform next season.
Long term who has more upside: Jackson, Isaac or Fultz?
Ball
Never was good at multiple choice.
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Anyone watching WVU vs. Kansas right now?
just looking at the box score Jackson is 3-12 with just 12 points but he does have 9 rebounds 4 steals and perhaps most importantly 6-8 on free throws.
he ended up shooting 4-13 I believe ...but had other nice stats across the board
Not his best game but still Kansas wins in OT.
Jackson performance highlights
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tWC5UVsQ6VU
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I'm really starting to come around on Jackson. Kudos to Triboy for pushing him. At first I didn't see much special. But the more I watch him the more I get excited. His versatility on offense and defense is preeminent. Stevens system places a high value on that quality. He can cover multiple positions with ease, can play 3 positions on offense, nice handle. Has that Marcus Smart intensity gene. Plus very team oriented. One knock is his outside shot which he seems to have solved. Also helps he plays a position where we are not as deep. And Jaylen could play more off guard when we want to go big.
Jackson would be able to contribute good minutes right away. More mature player than Ball or Fultz.
I am down to selecting him or Ball if given the choice. Ball seems transcendent type who gets best out of his teammates like Magic and Kidd.
Fultz will put up great numbers in NBA but I'm skeptical he will improve our team much. I still think he will be number one pick but if we land top choice could see Danny trading down 1-2 slots to take either Ball or Jackson.
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Of the top prospects, IMO, Jackson would fit in with our team personality and chemistry the best. He gets after it on defense, shares the ball, and has defensive versatility. If we keep the pick, I wouldn't be at all surprised to see Jackson in green next year.
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Watching Kansas Baylor right now, and Jackson is just dominating defensively. Getting deflections, steals, post blocks, transition blocks.
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God I love Jackson.
I want him so badly
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So does anybody want to compare Josh Jackson and Andrew Wiggins as prospects?
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Watching Kansas Baylor right now, and Jackson is just dominating defensively. Getting deflections, steals, post blocks, transition blocks.
Fit like a glove under CBS
Beast
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So does anybody want to compare Josh Jackson and Andrew Wiggins as prospects?
No. They dont compare... Couldnt be more different
Jackson > Wiggins
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So does anybody want to compare Josh Jackson and Andrew Wiggins as prospects?
No. They dont compare... Couldnt be more different
Jackson > Wiggins
Preach
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I'm really starting to come around on Jackson. Kudos to Triboy for pushing him. At first I didn't see much special. But the more I watch him the more I get excited. His versatility on offense and defense is preeminent. Stevens system places a high value on that quality. He can cover multiple positions with ease, can play 3 positions on offense, nice handle. Has that Marcus Smart intensity gene. Plus very team oriented. One knock is his outside shot which he seems to have solved. Also helps he plays a position where we are not as deep. And Jaylen could play more off guard when we want to go big.
Jackson would be able to contribute good minutes right away. More mature player than Ball or Fultz.
I am down to selecting him or Ball if given the choice. Ball seems transcendent type who gets best out of his teammates like Magic and Kidd.
Fultz will put up great numbers in NBA but I'm skeptical he will improve our team much. I still think he will be number one pick but if we land top choice could see Danny trading down 1-2 slots to take either Ball or Jackson.
i agree with most of the points on jackson, however, i was not aware that he has solved his shooting woes. please let me know what the basis is for saying his outside shooting problems are solved.
thanks.
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I'm really starting to come around on Jackson. Kudos to Triboy for pushing him. At first I didn't see much special. But the more I watch him the more I get excited. His versatility on offense and defense is preeminent. Stevens system places a high value on that quality. He can cover multiple positions with ease, can play 3 positions on offense, nice handle. Has that Marcus Smart intensity gene. Plus very team oriented. One knock is his outside shot which he seems to have solved. Also helps he plays a position where we are not as deep. And Jaylen could play more off guard when we want to go big.
Jackson would be able to contribute good minutes right away. More mature player than Ball or Fultz.
I am down to selecting him or Ball if given the choice. Ball seems transcendent type who gets best out of his teammates like Magic and Kidd.
Fultz will put up great numbers in NBA but I'm skeptical he will improve our team much. I still think he will be number one pick but if we land top choice could see Danny trading down 1-2 slots to take either Ball or Jackson.
i agree with most of the points on jackson, however, i was not aware that he has solved his shooting woes. please let me know what the basis is for saying his outside shooting problems are solved.
thanks.
He is shooting approx 55 percent from 3 pt land in the last 8 games
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I'm really starting to come around on Jackson. Kudos to Triboy for pushing him. At first I didn't see much special. But the more I watch him the more I get excited. His versatility on offense and defense is preeminent. Stevens system places a high value on that quality. He can cover multiple positions with ease, can play 3 positions on offense, nice handle. Has that Marcus Smart intensity gene. Plus very team oriented. One knock is his outside shot which he seems to have solved. Also helps he plays a position where we are not as deep. And Jaylen could play more off guard when we want to go big.
Jackson would be able to contribute good minutes right away. More mature player than Ball or Fultz.
I am down to selecting him or Ball if given the choice. Ball seems transcendent type who gets best out of his teammates like Magic and Kidd.
Fultz will put up great numbers in NBA but I'm skeptical he will improve our team much. I still think he will be number one pick but if we land top choice could see Danny trading down 1-2 slots to take either Ball or Jackson.
i agree with most of the points on jackson, however, i was not aware that he has solved his shooting woes. please let me know what the basis is for saying his outside shooting problems are solved.
thanks.
He is shooting approx 55 percent from 3 pt land in the last 8 games
Which would be a sign that he's headed in the right direction, not that he has "solved" his issues. I love Jackson, but he definitely needs to continue to improve his shooting. Lots of bricks today.
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He have the poise, tenacity and defensive IQ. Definitely the most NBA ready among the top prospects.
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16 pts vs baylor
https://www.youtube.com/shared?ci=b423fD9MDpw
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He have the poise, tenacity and defensive IQ. Definitely the most NBA ready among the top prospects.
just to reinforce your point, here is a post from SoSH about jackson. i officially want the celtics to draft this guy.
http://sonsofsamhorn.net/index.php?threads/2017-nba-draft-thread.16589/page-7
...this Marc Spears article from last June with a few quotes to make this possibility even more tantalizing: http://theundefeated.com/features/hes-got-a-game-to-match-his-mouth/.
(1) Toughest player Josh Jackson has ever had to play against: Jaylen Brown (its in the video, not the article.
(2) Fran Fraschilla compared Jackson's competitive drive to: KG. And does this sound like anyone from the Cs: “Every drill, he wants to be first. . . . . Every scrimmage, he wants to be the best. He just has an alpha dog mentality. He still has things he has to work on to improve. But in this class going into college next year, he’s as intense a player as there is in terms of his attitude as I’ve seen in the last five to 10 years. . . . Kevin Durant took my breath away with his talent. But this kid, he wants to win every single drill. Whoever is on the court who is considered at his level, he wants to guard them and dominate them.”
(3) In a pickup game in Detroit two years go. [Draymond] Green chose to guard Jackson and made a point to trash-talk to him and stop him from scoring. While Green accomplished his defensive goal, he respected Jackson for never backing down. They’ve been close ever since.
(4) Jackson even started a chess club so he and Brown can play on the road together.
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Looks like he sprained ankle in first half of TCU game. Hope not serious.
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Back in game.
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This kid is looking more and more like what we need. He's incredibly athletic, tries hard on defense and plays sound basketball. I'm as sold on Jackson as I am on Fultz, I would hate for the Lakers to have him.
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"Duke freshman Jayson Tatum is one of the best one-on-one scorers in the country, and Jackson made his life miserable when the two faced off at the practices for the McDonald’s All American Game last year. One Eastern Conference executive told me that the top players in his class are scared of what Jackson can do defensively."
https://theringer.com/kansas-jayhawks-bill-self-josh-jackson-big-12-titles-576e5191c5ac#.pv4ec1jr7
If we don't trade this year's pick...take this kid PLEASE.
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Makes a great consolation prize if one and two go elsewhere - as they inevitably will.
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Jackson has grown on me. I used to think he was premium Matt Barnes, but now I think he is more.
What it comes down to for me is: Is he good enough of a player to pick early even if he never develops a consistent outside shot?
My answer: Yes. He is. His passing, driving, finishing, defense, and rebounding are all pretty impressive. The intangibles continue to be heralded as well.
His shot has been coming along lately, but I seriously wonder if, with that form, he will ever be consistent. More likely that he will be just good enough to make defenders respect him, with occasional hot games thrown in.
I'm a little concerned about three things: 1) What was the deal with that vandalism thing? Does he have questionable maturity/character? 2) Every year there is a guy with great intangibles who gets taken too early and becomes a role player instead of a star. Is he that guy? 3) Ball and Fultz are both elite prospect. It's ballsy to take him over them.
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If DA doesn't make a move today, Jackson is some one I'd be happy with going forward. If Brown continues to improve in a few years we could have a core of Smart,Brown,Jackson, and this doesn't include our stashes over seas.
I can see why DA and Stevens may not make a move right away.
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"Duke freshman Jayson Tatum is one of the best one-on-one scorers in the country, and Jackson made his life miserable when the two faced off at the practices for the McDonald’s All American Game last year. One Eastern Conference executive told me that the top players in his class are scared of what Jackson can do defensively."
https://theringer.com/kansas-jayhawks-bill-self-josh-jackson-big-12-titles-576e5191c5ac#.pv4ec1jr7
If we don't trade this year's pick...take this kid PLEASE.
I'm in total agreement. Love this kid.
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Me too. Keep the pick. He will contribute right away.
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Jackson fills a need for Boston but have a feeling if they get #1 they take Fultz
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Jackson fills a need for Boston but have a feeling if they get #1 they take Fultz
Disagree. I don't think Fultz is a Celtic. Doesn't make his teammates better. If Ball or Jackson were on that Washington team they would be better. Fultz doesn't have personality to lead team. Reminds me of Derek Rose.
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15 pts/11 reb...congrats Kansas
https://www.youtube.com/shared?ci=EnKFjeC9P6E
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Jackson fills a need for Boston but have a feeling if they get #1 they take Fultz
Disagree. I don't think Fultz is a Celtic. Doesn't make his teammates better. If Ball or Jackson were on that Washington team they would be better. Fultz doesn't have personality to lead team. Reminds me of Derek Rose.
I prefer Ball...a bigger guard who adds another demension to them or Jackson. Fultz to me is just more of what they have
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15 pts/11 reb...congrats Kansas
https://www.youtube.com/shared?ci=EnKFjeC9P6E
The more and more I see this kid, I'm fine with DA not moving the pick for some one. I can see him playing the 2 with Smart and Brown. Thats a lot of defense right there at the wings.
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15 pts/11 reb...congrats Kansas
https://www.youtube.com/shared?ci=EnKFjeC9P6E
The more and more I see this kid, I'm fine with DA not moving the pick for some one. I can see him playing the 2 with Smart and Brown. Thats a lot of defense right there at the wings.
Versatile trio
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just an update. jackson is now shooting 36.6% from 3 point land. his FT % still is awful at 56%.
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just an update. jackson is now shooting 36.6% from 3 point land. his FT % still is awful at 56%.
Just compare Jackson to Iggy. Feel better?
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Just bc of one weakness (he could tidy up in anyways)
There is no need to "drown" the prospect...especially when he is pretty darn good in..
Excellent offensive rebounder, shot blocker, ball handler, passer , slasher , explosive, motor, toughness, iq and the list goes on
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just an update. jackson is now shooting 36.6% from 3 point land. his FT % still is awful at 56%.
Just compare Jackson to Iggy. Feel better?
i wasnt "feeling" anything on jackson. i just updated some stats. the 3 point percentage has gone up and once was 27% i think. good news.
ft% was and is poor. not good news.
i was not convinced jackson was worth the number one pick given his shooting percentages. but now, ft can be fixed i think. if his 3 point shooting is for real, he may be worth the number one pick.
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just an update. jackson is now shooting 36.6% from 3 point land. his FT % still is awful at 56%.
Just compare Jackson to Iggy. Feel better?
If Iggy was 2" taller. Feel even better??
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Is he the most "Lebron-like" prospect we've had since Lebron? I mean obviously, he will never be as good as Lebron, but the skillset seems to be similar: elite athleticism, measurables, defense, slashing, good handles, some playmaking ability, shaky but maybe fixable jump shot.
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Is he the most "Lebron-like" prospect we've had since Lebron? I mean obviously, he will never be as good as Lebron, but the skillset seems to be similar: elite athleticism, measurables, defense, slashing, good handles, some playmaking ability, shaky but maybe fixable jump shot.
Exactly...a poor man version
Its all of these things you listed plus aggression, rising to the occasion
He needs take care of his social life though and not hang around bad apples...
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Mistake to compare him to Lebron. He doesn't play the same way. Lebron is much more of a facilitator, more ball dominant. Really a big PG.
Jackson is more of a jack of all trades, let's the game come to him, makes a good basketball decision almost every moment he's on the floor. He moves the ball, he drives when there is room, good handle, he takes the open shot, he boxes out for rebounds, he defends multiple positions.
His movement on the court is not at all like Lebron. He glides like Dr. J or Clyde Drexler. Old school, in a good way. Fundamentally one of the soundest college freshmen I have seen in quite some time.
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11pts/12reb.. tough game. KU squeak a win
https://www.youtube.com/shared?ci=D4LbGcej0F8
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This kid is SO grit and grime!
Even when he's not having an A+ game, he contributes and gives max effort...hope he's drafted and comes to the Celtics.
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Was sloppy last night but I've watched him 6-7 games now and have never seen him take a play off. Always trying to make the right play.
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Was sloppy last night but I've watched him 6-7 games now and have never seen him take a play off. Always trying to make the right play.
Yes... He is like a taller Marcus Smart. Strong rebounder
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Uh oh...is Josh Jackson being a Jerk!
http://www.freep.com/story/sports/college/2017/02/24/josh-jackson-kansas-basketball/98364078/
"Kansas star freshman Josh Jackson (Detroit) has been charged with misdemeanor criminal damage after allegedly vandalizing a woman’s car outside a Lawrence bar."
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Uh oh...is Josh Jackson being a Jerk!
http://www.freep.com/story/sports/college/2017/02/24/josh-jackson-kansas-basketball/98364078/
"Kansas star freshman Josh Jackson (Detroit) has been charged with misdemeanor criminal damage after allegedly vandalizing a woman’s car outside a Lawrence bar."
Old news
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Does Josh Jackson have the highest ceiling in this draft? He really sounds like a Danny Ainge guy. I'm thinking if the Celtics get the #1 pick, it would be Jackson, while others may be crying for Fultz or Ball. It would be such an Ainge move, and maybe again, the right one.
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Does Josh Jackson have the highest ceiling in this draft? He really sounds like a Danny Ainge guy. I'm thinking if the Celtics get the #1 pick, it would be Jackson, while others may be crying for Fultz or Ball. It would be such an Ainge move, and maybe again, the right one.
Not the highest... That belongs to Isaac, Fultz
But ceiling plus has 'it' now..he is ahead of the race
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I think JJ has jumped ahead of Fultz. The decent chance that we get either of them is very exciting.
Upside:
Jackson- Kawhi/Wiggins
Fultz- Harden/Lillard
I feel that Lonzo Ball, Isaac, Monk, and Tatum are in the next tier for the Celtics.
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Does Josh Jackson have the highest ceiling in this draft? He really sounds like a Danny Ainge guy. I'm thinking if the Celtics get the #1 pick, it would be Jackson, while others may be crying for Fultz or Ball. It would be such an Ainge move, and maybe again, the right one.
I've been saying this for weeks. TP for agreeing with me!!
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Does Josh Jackson have the highest ceiling in this draft? He really sounds like a Danny Ainge guy. I'm thinking if the Celtics get the #1 pick, it would be Jackson, while others may be crying for Fultz or Ball. It would be such an Ainge move, and maybe again, the right one.
I've been saying this for weeks. TP for agreeing with me!!
Feel the same way. Jackson strikes me as a "Celtics type" player. He fits the mold of what they look for. Tough, physically mature, explosive defender, issues shooting (lol). I think the C's would be very happy to draft this guy and it would totally be an Ainge move. Seeing a threesome of Smart-Brown-Jackson terrorize opposing offenses one day might be worth the wait of developing this young players.
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Tp to trifboy. You've been on his bandwagon since the beginning. Would still rather have fultz, but Jackson is my number 2.
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Vs okc state ...19 pts, 9 reb, 4 assist
https://www.youtube.com/shared?ci=jkWRPxD8OZI
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Tp to trifboy. You've been on his bandwagon since the beginning. Would still rather have fultz, but Jackson is my number 2.
:laugh:
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I have to admit that I have been really impressed with JJ's improvement through the year, and his play has been super impressive. I haven't watched Fultz or Ball play as much as I have Jackson, so maybe I am biased, but the trio of Smart / Brown / Jackson seems like a great trio for the future.
Great size & strength, great desire to win, lots of intangibles, athleticism off the charts. All 3 seem to be able to play multiple positions which in the event of us losing either AB or IT in the next few years due to whatever reason.
Jackson completely seems like a Danny Ainge / celtics type player. If he can keep improving like he has this year, I would say his ceiling has to be close to that of Fultz / Ball with better defense right now, and better size. He seems like he could play interchanging from 2, 3 or even 4 in small ball after a couple years of bulking up.
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I have to admit that I have been really impressed with JJ's improvement through the year, and his play has been super impressive. I haven't watched Fultz or Ball play as much as I have Jackson, so maybe I am biased, but the trio of Smart / Brown / Jackson seems like a great trio for the future.
Great size & strength, great desire to win, lots of intangibles, athleticism off the charts. All 3 seem to be able to play multiple positions which in the event of us losing either AB or IT in the next few years due to whatever reason.
Jackson completely seems like a Danny Ainge / celtics type player. If he can keep improving like he has this year, I would say his ceiling has to be close to that of Fultz / Ball with better defense right now, and better size. He seems like he could play interchanging from 2, 3 or even 4 in small ball after a couple years of bulking up.
I'd love Jackson, and would take him over Ball for a few reasons. But Fultz still has to be number 1, and viewed with a higher ceiling. He's been the better player over most of the season, and is also nearly 16 younger than Jackson (who is much closer to Jaylen Brown in terms of age). One really needs to remember that age gap when comparing the two, especially in terms of ceiling. Jackson is older than many sophomores despite officially being a freshman.
But Jackson seems to be an easy fit on the Celtics in terms of style of play, unquestionably.
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Heard a great NBA comparison for Josh Jackson,
Scottie Pippen/Josh Smith hybrid
Thoughts?
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But Fultz still has to be number 1, and viewed with a higher ceiling. He's been the better player over most of the season, and is also nearly 16 younger than Jackson (who is much closer to Jaylen Brown in terms of age).
For all Fultz greateness his team still stinks. 9-21
http://www.gohuskies.com/schedule.aspx?path=mbball
And he has missed he last three games with sore knees,
Washington last played on Feb. 18 and Fultz had a week to rest his knee, but was unable to receive medical clearance.
“He hasn’t done much,” Romar said Friday when asked about Fultz. “We just want to keep him calm. With this being a long week. … He’ll probably do a little more today (Friday), but we haven’t had him do a whole lot.”
Pressed a further, Romar said it’s difficult for Fultz to play in games with little rest between them.
http://www.seattletimes.com/sports/uw-husky-basketball/washingtons-markelle-fultz-misses-third-game-due-sore-knee/
Great stats when he plays, though
http://www.gohuskies.com/roster.aspx?rp_id=3418
But sore knees, and losing team mean pass! Those are big warning signs
Oh I forgot this is Celticsblog and everything will be hunky-dory once he comes to Boston, those knees will heal, he will instantly be transformed into a winner. Gimme a break!
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I officially pass on Fults now
Even if his talent is true i don't want a player with knee problems at this young age
(especially it's not accidental injury)
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Heard a great NBA comparison for Josh Jackson,
Scottie Pippen/Josh Smith hybrid
Thoughts?
Interesting comparison
I would say more like a Pippen/AntawnJamieson. .. or Iggy/Jamieson hybrid
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Jackson suspended 1 game
https://www.google.ca/amp/s/kansascity.relaymedia.com/amp/sports/college/big-12/university-of-kansas/article137140073.html
Not happy he keeps racking up problems outside of the court.. if this doesnt set him straight, I dont think the Celts should draft him. Wake up Josh cmon
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I wonder if he is now off the board for the Celtics.
Who needs those headaches?
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I wonder if he is now off the board for the Celtics.
Who needs those headaches?
Immature but hardly justifies removing him from board. Must say the accumulation of things may end up defining him. Hope that is not the case.
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If this is what is public...what is there behind the scenes?
Really like his game...but dem off court decisions though. :o
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If this is what is public...what is there behind the scenes?
Really like his game...but dem off court decisions though. :o
Yeah, Have to admit I never made a bad decision when I was 19. Bet you never did either. ::)
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If this is what is public...what is there behind the scenes?
Really like his game...but dem off court decisions though. :o
Yeah, Have to admit I never made a bad decision when I was 19. Bet you never did either. ::)
Hardly his only one in Lawrence.
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If this is what is public...what is there behind the scenes?
Really like his game...but dem off court decisions though. :o
Yeah, Have to admit I never made a bad decision when I was 19. Bet you never did either. ::)
Hardly his only one in Lawrence.
"The one-game suspension stems from a Feb. 2 traffic incident that Jackson told Self about Monday. Jackson is scheduled to appear in Lawrence Municipal Court this month after being cited for three traffic violations."
"In a separate matter, Jackson faces one misdemeanor charge of criminal property damage. He is scheduled to be arraigned on April 12 in Douglas County District Court."
https://www.google.com/amp/s/kansascity.relaymedia.com/amp/sports/college/big-12/university-of-kansas/article137140073.html
I'm starting to lose count.
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so he's a bad driver
i'd still draft him
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As talented as he is, his lack of judgement off the court is concerning. Imagine knowing you have the potential to be a top 3 in the NBA draft and still doing all these reckless things. After what happened to our franchise in 1986, I do not believe it is ever wise to draft a talented player when you know they show poor judgement again and again. We most likely did not know of the 86 issues off the court but now in this day of social media and coverage on everything, we do now.
There is enough talent in this draft not to take a chance on him. Draft the most talented player available that shows good judgement on and off the court...
I pass on Josh Jackson
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so he's a bad driver
i'd still draft him
http://thebiglead.com/2017/02/25/kansas-josh-jackson-charged-with-damaging-womens-basketball-players-car-disciplined-in-house/
Oh man!
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As talented as he is, his lack of judgement off the court is concerning. Imagine knowing you have the potential to be a top 3 in the NBA draft and still doing all these reckless things. After what happened to our franchise in 1986, I do not believe it is ever wise to draft a talented player when you know they show poor judgement again and again. We most likely did not know of the 86 issues off the court but now in this day of social media and coverage on everything, we do now.
There is enough talent in this draft not to take a chance on him. Draft the most talented player available that shows good judgement on and off the court...
I pass on Josh Jackson
Seems like he is definitely hanging out with the wrong people also
At the nba level he will need to "waste" them
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As talented as he is, his lack of judgement off the court is concerning. Imagine knowing you have the potential to be a top 3 in the NBA draft and still doing all these reckless things. After what happened to our franchise in 1986, I do not believe it is ever wise to draft a talented player when you know they show poor judgement again and again. We most likely did not know of the 86 issues off the court but now in this day of social media and coverage on everything, we do now.
There is enough talent in this draft not to take a chance on him. Draft the most talented player available that shows good judgement on and off the court...
I pass on Josh Jackson
Seems like he is definitely hanging out with the wrong people also
At the nba level he will need to "waste" them
definitely concerning that he is demonstrating such poor judgement right now.
When hes a millionaire, those decisions arent likely to get a ton better.
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As talented as he is, his lack of judgement off the court is concerning. Imagine knowing you have the potential to be a top 3 in the NBA draft and still doing all these reckless things. After what happened to our franchise in 1986, I do not believe it is ever wise to draft a talented player when you know they show poor judgement again and again. We most likely did not know of the 86 issues off the court but now in this day of social media and coverage on everything, we do now.
There is enough talent in this draft not to take a chance on him. Draft the most talented player available that shows good judgement on and off the court...
I pass on Josh Jackson
If we are picking 4th and he is available, you may want to re-think that position.
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As talented as he is, his lack of judgement off the court is concerning. Imagine knowing you have the potential to be a top 3 in the NBA draft and still doing all these reckless things. After what happened to our franchise in 1986, I do not believe it is ever wise to draft a talented player when you know they show poor judgement again and again. We most likely did not know of the 86 issues off the court but now in this day of social media and coverage on everything, we do now.
There is enough talent in this draft not to take a chance on him. Draft the most talented player available that shows good judgement on and off the court...
I pass on Josh Jackson
If we are picking 4th and he is available, you may want to re-think that position.
No way I pass him up at 4.
The character stuff is concerning, but Id still take a long look at him at #2.
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This suspension seems like Kansas trying to save face for the way they treated his vandalism of that womens player's car.
They suspend him for a game they arent worried about and get to pretend they care about his issues.
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I wonder if he is now off the board for the Celtics.
Who needs those headaches?
right, the next thing we know he will be getting into bar fights and being stabbed while in LA. we all know where that sort of behavior inevitably leads a young nba player.
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If this is what is public...what is there behind the scenes?
Really like his game...but dem off court decisions though. :o
Yeah, Have to admit I never made a bad decision when I was 19. Bet you never did either. ::)
Hardly his only one in Lawrence.
"The one-game suspension stems from a Feb. 2 traffic incident that Jackson told Self about Monday. Jackson is scheduled to appear in Lawrence Municipal Court this month after being cited for three traffic violations."
"In a separate matter, Jackson faces one misdemeanor charge of criminal property damage. He is scheduled to be arraigned on April 12 in Douglas County District Court."
https://www.google.com/amp/s/kansascity.relaymedia.com/amp/sports/college/big-12/university-of-kansas/article137140073.html
I'm starting to lose count.
let me help. 4.
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Hope jackson cleans up soon
I just keep thinking what a dream fit he would be for this lineup..
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so he's a bad driver
i'd still draft him
I would still draft him too and give him a personal driver :D
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Ainge won't touch him (for better or worse), he's too character-oriented. May be the same for Ball / his dad -- he likes guys with potential, esp athletically, that could benefit from coaching BBIQ and work-ethic.
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Ainge won't touch him (for better or worse), he's too character-oriented. May be the same for Ball / his dad -- he likes guys with potential, esp athletically, that could benefit from coaching BBIQ and work-ethic.
who Jackson?? he is still very young.... all these "frat" like incidents , happen in college
If he doesn't occur another problem after the 1 game suspension, I think everything will be cool
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Ainge won't touch him (for better or worse), he's too character-oriented. May be the same for Ball / his dad -- he likes guys with potential, esp athletically, that could benefit from coaching BBIQ and work-ethic.
Disagree Tarheels. If can Jackson or Ball are the most talented players on the board when we pick than that's who we will take.
. Neither player has major red flags.
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Ainge won't touch him (for better or worse), he's too character-oriented. May be the same for Ball / his dad -- he likes guys with potential, esp athletically, that could benefit from coaching BBIQ and work-ethic.
Well, he did take Smart after the whole fan-pushing incident, so who knows.
Of course, if you believe Smart's story of the situation, it's hard to blame him, though he still shouldn't have done it. That's a bit different than Jackson's stuff.
Let's just hope we get adults anyways. 8)
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Suspension about to cost Kansas.. first round exit about to happen.
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Suspension about to cost Kansas.. first round exit about to happen.
Yup, but why did they suspend him? I'm confused about why he was suspended. What did he do?
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Per NBC Sports:
Kansas suspended the freshman for its Big 12 tournament opener after receiving three citations for a hit-and-run. He was already facing a misdemeanor property-damage charge for allegedly damaging the car of Kansas women’s basketball player who was previously found to be the victim of domestic violence by one of Jackson’s teammates.
I think I'm still interested in him!
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Per NBC Sports:
Kansas suspended the freshman for its Big 12 tournament opener after receiving three citations for a hit-and-run. He was already facing a misdemeanor property-damage charge for allegedly damaging the car of Kansas women’s basketball player who was previously found to be the victim of domestic violence by one of Jackson’s teammates.
I think I'm still interested in him!
This sounds like a situation where we fans cannot have much to add. Ainge will get to meet him and talk to his coaches and learn about who he is. We as fans will never know enough to pass judgment one way or another.
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Per NBC Sports:
Kansas suspended the freshman for its Big 12 tournament opener after receiving three citations for a hit-and-run. He was already facing a misdemeanor property-damage charge for allegedly damaging the car of Kansas women’s basketball player who was previously found to be the victim of domestic violence by one of Jackson’s teammates.
I think I'm still interested in him!
i may be mistaken, but i think i read that the hit-and-run involved backing up into another car, then driving away without leaving a note.
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Jackson has already apologized to his coach and teammates... next game he misses is not a big big deal
MM tourney still around the corner
I expect Jackson to raise the intensity for the tourney
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Saltlover has convinced me that Danny wants Fultz which I get, because he has the greatest ability to create his own shot. But still a huge fan of Jackson, think he would fit right into our team team. Either one of those two guys could fit into our team roster. Ball is an incredible talent but we may have to move pieces for him to fit, especially IT. I don't see that happening.
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Saltlover has convinced me that Danny wants Fultz which I get, because he has the greatest ability to create his own shot.
He has taken plenty of guys who can't create their own shot like Smart, whom I love, but an NBA step he does not have. KO has struggled to get his shot off at times. He has taken guys who do not shoot well, like Sully or Smart (Now Smart affects a game in so many other ways). So I would not think it is a given that he will pick a guy who can get his own shot but we do need offensive help.
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Saltlover has convinced me that Danny wants Fultz which I get, because he has the greatest ability to create his own shot.
He has taken plenty of guys who can't create their own shot like Smart, whom I love, but an NBA step he does not have. KO has struggled to get his shot off at times. He has taken guys who do not shoot well, like Sully or Smart (Now Smart affects a game in so many other ways). So I would not think it is a given that he will pick a guy who can get his own shot but we do need offensive help.
Guys like that are hard to find especially in the middle of rounds. He had repeatedly made clear how much he would like another guy like that.
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Saltlover has convinced me that Danny wants Fultz which I get, because he has the greatest ability to create his own shot. But still a huge fan of Jackson, think he would fit right into our team team. Either one of those two guys could fit into our team roster. Ball is an incredible talent but we may have to move pieces for him to fit, especially IT. I don't see that happening.
And Jackson can't create his own shot?
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I'm no expert on college games . I ve watched Fultz some tho , and have been watching video of Ball and Jackson highlights.
I wonder ....WHO gets the boot if Jackson is the Celtics pick. He sounds like a Celtic type player . Big motor . Seems he d create a log jam at SF
What happens to Crowder , who is on a great contract , or Brown who has scary good athletic skills and now a lot of serious NBA minutes on the court under his belt.
It seems hard to imagine Celtics don't land one of either....Ball, Jackson or Fultz with Nets pick.
Will be interesting to see WHO Danny and CBS thinks will help the most.
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Saltlover has convinced me that Danny wants Fultz which I get, because he has the greatest ability to create his own shot. But still a huge fan of Jackson, think he would fit right into our team team. Either one of those two guys could fit into our team roster. Ball is an incredible talent but we may have to move pieces for him to fit, especially IT. I don't see that happening.
And Jackson can't create his own shot?
Well, yeah, but it doesn't go in as much LOL.
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Weird draft class in that all 3 top prospects have non-basketball potential risks.
I get the feeling that even if we land the 1st pick, Ainge could do something weird like taking Isaac or Tatum.
It would be easier to talk me into taking Isaac at 1 now, than talking me into taking Jaylen at 3 last year...
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I'm no expert on college games . I ve watched Fultz some tho , and have been watching video of Ball and Jackson highlights.
I wonder ....WHO gets the boot if Jackson is the Celtics pick. He sounds like a Celtic type player . Big motor . Seems he d create a log jam at SF
What happens to Crowder , who is on a great contract , or Brown who has scary good athletic skills and now a lot of serious NBA minutes on the court under his belt.
It seems hard to imagine Celtics don't land one of either....Ball, Jackson or Fultz with Nets pick.
Will be interesting to see WHO Danny and CBS thinks will help the most.
Good post.....the other factor here is Hayward, which makes your question even more interesting.
I hate to say it (because he is my favorite Celtic and the final connection to the PP/KG years) but it's got to be Avery who has to go, both contractually and positionally.
Fultz, IT, Smart, Brown and Haywood could all play the 2. And if it's Jackson, both he and Crowder can play the 3/4, with Brown and Hayward at the 2/3. If it's Ball, IT can play off the ball like he does. with Smart. If it's Tatum, same as Jackson, he's a 3/4 with Crowder.
I apologize for repeating this over and over, but the fact that we will get one of Fultz, Ball, Jackson or Tatum is a phenomenal situation to be in.
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I feel the need to correct (or at least challenge) an assumption about Jackson's role on the Celtics with Jaylen Brown also here. Generally people seem to assume Jaylen will be the 2/3 and Jackson the 3/4. I think that's backwards. While Jackson is taller in terms of pure height, Jaylen is both longer in terms of reach, and thicker in terms of weight. He will be the 3/4, and Jackson the 2/3.
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I feel the need to correct (or at least challenge) an assumption about Jackson's role on the Celtics with Jaylen Brown also here. Generally people seem to assume Jaylen will be the 2/3 and Jackson the 3/4. I think that's backwards. While Jackson is taller in terms of pure height, Jaylen is both longer in terms of reach, and thicker in terms of weight. He will be the 3/4, and Jackson the 2/3.
Good post, salt, and the numbers do back you up. 20lbs heavier, 2" longer wingspan, 3" longer standing reach. The feel/eye tests don't convince me though.
Watching them both in college a pretty fair amount, Jaylen looked and felt like a 2/3 and Jackson a 3/4 ( although Stevens' position-less 🏀 with swings and wings and things almost makes our discussion and classification of these players moot, albeit interesting and enjoyable).
Jaylen for Cal, both on O and D, was on the perimeter almost exclusively (that coach's offense especially was pretty unimaginative) where he either shot 3s or drive to the hoop and guarded the other team's 2s and 3s. Jackson is under the hoop far more on D. He seems to have the mindset of a rim protector and is more aggressive rebounding the ball. On O he has been on the perimeter more in the past month because he has been shooting the 3 much better, but his bread and butter is being aggressive on the O glass keeping balls alive and posting up more than Jaylen. At least that's how it looks to me and feels.
All I know is that both of them love to go coast to coast......quickly......JB the better shooter and JJ the master passer. I'd love to see them play together for us pushing the ball like that....that would be something!
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I feel the need to correct (or at least challenge) an assumption about Jackson's role on the Celtics with Jaylen Brown also here. Generally people seem to assume Jaylen will be the 2/3 and Jackson the 3/4. I think that's backwards. While Jackson is taller in terms of pure height, Jaylen is both longer in terms of reach, and thicker in terms of weight. He will be the 3/4, and Jackson the 2/3.
I bet Jackson has a longer reach... I wouldnt be surprised by the combine he is 6'8.5 or 6'9
Jackson is willing to stick his nose under the basket more to grab rebounds/alter shots vs Brown...which makes him more of 3/4 vs 2/3 imo
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I feel the need to correct (or at least challenge) an assumption about Jackson's role on the Celtics with Jaylen Brown also here. Generally people seem to assume Jaylen will be the 2/3 and Jackson the 3/4. I think that's backwards. While Jackson is taller in terms of pure height, Jaylen is both longer in terms of reach, and thicker in terms of weight. He will be the 3/4, and Jackson the 2/3.
I bet Jackson has a longer reach... I wouldnt be surprised by the combine he is 6'8.5 or 6'9
Jackson is willing to stick his nose under the basket more to grab rebounds/alter shots vs Brown...which makes him more of 3/4 vs 2/3 imo
Well considering that Josh Jackson is what.....less than 2 months younger than Brown, if we assume one is still growing, we can assume that of the other one is also, or vice versa. The fact of the matter is that while he is taller than Brown by roughly an inch, Brown's wingspan is utterly elite (+5,) while Jackson's is only meh (+a little under 2). Also brown is a lot beefier than Jackson, so I agree with your assessment of positioning, but lets wait until the combine until we just start magically adding height to players. I am going to call BS that you can spot when a player has grown half an inch. I respect you, but that is absurd haha.
*the + stat refers to wingspan length above height
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I feel the need to correct (or at least challenge) an assumption about Jackson's role on the Celtics with Jaylen Brown also here. Generally people seem to assume Jaylen will be the 2/3 and Jackson the 3/4. I think that's backwards. While Jackson is taller in terms of pure height, Jaylen is both longer in terms of reach, and thicker in terms of weight. He will be the 3/4, and Jackson the 2/3.
Watching Jackson play, he plays a lot at the 4 position, and seems to do real well. Hits the boards a lot, defends bigger guys well, just seems to fit that 3/4 position physically more than Jaylen would. The fact that we can debate it underscores the nice interchangeability having players like Jaylen, Jackson (if drafted) or even Hayward (if signed as FA) would provide us, not to mention Smart and even Crowder. Especially on defense, where we rely alot on switching. Brad's defensive system is really a hybrid zone and man, given the great extent guys switch on picks. Having hybrid players like this are a real asset.
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Per NBC Sports:
Kansas suspended the freshman for its Big 12 tournament opener after receiving three citations for a hit-and-run. He was already facing a misdemeanor property-damage charge for allegedly damaging the car of Kansas women’s basketball player who was previously found to be the victim of domestic violence by one of Jackson’s teammates.
I think I'm still interested in him!
i may be mistaken, but i think i read that the hit-and-run involved backing up into another car, then driving away without leaving a note.
I'm not worried. Given the ease of parking in Boston, never mind the kindness and consideration of Boston drivers, particularly in heavy traffic, there's no way a new guy to the city could have trouble driving here.
Mike
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Per NBC Sports:
Kansas suspended the freshman for its Big 12 tournament opener after receiving three citations for a hit-and-run. He was already facing a misdemeanor property-damage charge for allegedly damaging the car of Kansas women’s basketball player who was previously found to be the victim of domestic violence by one of Jackson’s teammates.
I think I'm still interested in him!
i may be mistaken, but i think i read that the hit-and-run involved backing up into another car, then driving away without leaving a note.
I'm not worried. Given the ease of parking in Boston, never mind the kindness and consideration of Boston drivers, particularly in heavy traffic, there's no way a new guy to the city could have trouble driving here.
Mike
Haha, TP.
Hopefully Jackson would hire a driver so he didn't have to worry about any of the Boston streets. I agree that if you can't avoid accidents in Kansas, you don't have a prayer in Boston.
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Per NBC Sports:
Kansas suspended the freshman for its Big 12 tournament opener after receiving three citations for a hit-and-run. He was already facing a misdemeanor property-damage charge for allegedly damaging the car of Kansas women’s basketball player who was previously found to be the victim of domestic violence by one of Jackson’s teammates.
I think I'm still interested in him!
i may be mistaken, but i think i read that the hit-and-run involved backing up into another car, then driving away without leaving a note.
I'm not worried. Given the ease of parking in Boston, never mind the kindness and consideration of Boston drivers, particularly in heavy traffic, there's no way a new guy to the city could have trouble driving here.
Mike
TP made my day. LOL
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I feel the need to correct (or at least challenge) an assumption about Jackson's role on the Celtics with Jaylen Brown also here. Generally people seem to assume Jaylen will be the 2/3 and Jackson the 3/4. I think that's backwards. While Jackson is taller in terms of pure height, Jaylen is both longer in terms of reach, and thicker in terms of weight. He will be the 3/4, and Jackson the 2/3.
I bet Jackson has a longer reach... I wouldnt be surprised by the combine he is 6'8.5 or 6'9
Jackson is willing to stick his nose under the basket more to grab rebounds/alter shots vs Brown...which makes him more of 3/4 vs 2/3 imo
Im gonna agree with SL here.
Brown has a longer standing reach (3 inches) and is 20 pounds heavier than Jackson.
I think early in their careers they will both be best at the 2/3, but Brown certainly has the better body type and athletic profile to play the 4.
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I feel the need to correct (or at least challenge) an assumption about Jackson's role on the Celtics with Jaylen Brown also here. Generally people seem to assume Jaylen will be the 2/3 and Jackson the 3/4. I think that's backwards. While Jackson is taller in terms of pure height, Jaylen is both longer in terms of reach, and thicker in terms of weight. He will be the 3/4, and Jackson the 2/3.
sorry to beat an old horse, but CBS doesnt see positions this way. i think having two swings such as jackson and brown would not put them at odds with one another's playing.
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I feel the need to correct (or at least challenge) an assumption about Jackson's role on the Celtics with Jaylen Brown also here. Generally people seem to assume Jaylen will be the 2/3 and Jackson the 3/4. I think that's backwards. While Jackson is taller in terms of pure height, Jaylen is both longer in terms of reach, and thicker in terms of weight. He will be the 3/4, and Jackson the 2/3.
sorry to beat an old horse, but CBS doesnt see positions this way. i think having two swings such as jackson and brown would not put them at odds with one another's playing.
OK, so are they both swings?
or are they both wings?
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I feel the need to correct (or at least challenge) an assumption about Jackson's role on the Celtics with Jaylen Brown also here. Generally people seem to assume Jaylen will be the 2/3 and Jackson the 3/4. I think that's backwards. While Jackson is taller in terms of pure height, Jaylen is both longer in terms of reach, and thicker in terms of weight. He will be the 3/4, and Jackson the 2/3.
sorry to beat an old horse, but CBS doesnt see positions this way. i think having two swings such as jackson and brown would not put them at odds with one another's playing.
OK, so are they both swings?
or are they both wings?
Sfs able to play as stretch 4 and power guard
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http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/18872747/josh-jackson-attorney-seeking-no-charges-allegedly-offered-pay-family
Trouble just seems to follow this guy around... :-\
Wow...just wow!!
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My problem with Jackson isn't necessarily that he vandalized a car, its WHOS car he vandalized. While sure it could be coincidence that he damaged her car, she was still the victim of domestic abuse by one of his teammates. Might it be unrelated? Maybe.
But celtic pride makes me feel cautious about someone who would go out of his way to continue to victimize a victim of assault just because its one of his friends. For his sake I hope there is more to the story, but if not, he just looks like a predator.
Edit: Removed my link, beat me to it The One, TP.
So not only did he damage the car of a victim of one of his friends, he also tried to pay her off for silence. Not loving his attitude at all. At what point do we stop saying he is being a stupid kid, and do we acknowledge he has actual personality flaws? I mean the guy isn't Greg Hardy, but he is no angel.
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My problem with Jackson isn't necessarily that he vandalized a car, its WHOS car he vandalized. While sure it could be coincidence that he damaged her car, she was still the victim of domestic abuse by one of his teammates. Might it be unrelated? Maybe.
But celtic pride makes me feel cautious about someone who would go out of his way to continue to victimize a victim of assault just because its one of his friends. For his sake I hope there is more to the story, but if not, he just looks like a predator.
Edit: Removed my link, beat me to it The One, TP.
So not only did he damage the car of a victim of one of his friends, he also tried to pay her off for silence. Not loving his attitude at all. At what point do we stop saying he is being a stupid kid, and do we acknowledge he has actual personality flaws? I mean the guy isn't Greg Hardy, but he is no angel.
He will learn from this
Im not worried
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My problem with Jackson isn't necessarily that he vandalized a car, its WHOS car he vandalized. While sure it could be coincidence that he damaged her car, she was still the victim of domestic abuse by one of his teammates. Might it be unrelated? Maybe.
But celtic pride makes me feel cautious about someone who would go out of his way to continue to victimize a victim of assault just because its one of his friends. For his sake I hope there is more to the story, but if not, he just looks like a predator.
Edit: Removed my link, beat me to it The One, TP.
So not only did he damage the car of a victim of one of his friends, he also tried to pay her off for silence. Not loving his attitude at all. At what point do we stop saying he is being a stupid kid, and do we acknowledge he has actual personality flaws? I mean the guy isn't Greg Hardy, but he is no angel.
He will learn from this
Im not worried
That's a BIG risk triboy...are you willing to put your name on the dotted line to select him at #3 overall in a loaded draft?
Due to this whole mess, Tatum and Isaac are now on the same level as Jackson...if I'm running the Celtics' Big Board.
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Horford
Jackson
Brown
AB
IT4
KO/Zizic
Yabu/KO
Crowder
Smart
Rozier
;D
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My problem with Jackson isn't necessarily that he vandalized a car, its WHOS car he vandalized. While sure it could be coincidence that he damaged her car, she was still the victim of domestic abuse by one of his teammates. Might it be unrelated? Maybe.
But celtic pride makes me feel cautious about someone who would go out of his way to continue to victimize a victim of assault just because its one of his friends. For his sake I hope there is more to the story, but if not, he just looks like a predator.
Edit: Removed my link, beat me to it The One, TP.
So not only did he damage the car of a victim of one of his friends, he also tried to pay her off for silence. Not loving his attitude at all. At what point do we stop saying he is being a stupid kid, and do we acknowledge he has actual personality flaws? I mean the guy isn't Greg Hardy, but he is no angel.
He will learn from this
Im not worried
That's a BIG risk triboy...are you willing to put your name on the dotted line to select him at #3 overall in a loaded draft?
Due to this whole mess, Tatum and Isaac are now on the same level as Jackson...if I'm running the Celtics' Big Board.
Blame Jacksons attorney ... Read the story. It was the attorney ... Jackson is very young.
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My problem with Jackson isn't necessarily that he vandalized a car, its WHOS car he vandalized. While sure it could be coincidence that he damaged her car, she was still the victim of domestic abuse by one of his teammates. Might it be unrelated? Maybe.
But celtic pride makes me feel cautious about someone who would go out of his way to continue to victimize a victim of assault just because its one of his friends. For his sake I hope there is more to the story, but if not, he just looks like a predator.
Edit: Removed my link, beat me to it The One, TP.
So not only did he damage the car of a victim of one of his friends, he also tried to pay her off for silence. Not loving his attitude at all. At what point do we stop saying he is being a stupid kid, and do we acknowledge he has actual personality flaws? I mean the guy isn't Greg Hardy, but he is no angel.
He will learn from this
Im not worried
That's a BIG risk triboy...are you willing to put your name on the dotted line to select him at #3 overall in a loaded draft?
Due to this whole mess, Tatum and Isaac are now on the same level as Jackson...if I'm running the Celtics' Big Board.
Blame Jacksons attorney ... Read the story. It was the attorney ... Jackson is very young.
Look I will put my name on the line to say we should take him 2nd, that's not the issue. I just want people to understand that we will have to really be careful because as of right now, he isn't a good person.
What makes you think he will learn from this? There is no evidence that he will. None that he wont, but there is none that he will.
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Horford
Jackson
Brown
AB
IT4
KO/Zizic
Yabu/KO
Crowder
Smart
Rozier
;D
co-sign
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I feel the need to correct (or at least challenge) an assumption about Jackson's role on the Celtics with Jaylen Brown also here. Generally people seem to assume Jaylen will be the 2/3 and Jackson the 3/4. I think that's backwards. While Jackson is taller in terms of pure height, Jaylen is both longer in terms of reach, and thicker in terms of weight. He will be the 3/4, and Jackson the 2/3.
sorry to beat an old horse, but CBS doesnt see positions this way. i think having two swings such as jackson and brown would not put them at odds with one another's playing.
OK, so are they both swings?
or are they both wings?
Once they both develop I think either could play any position 2-4 and switch on defense 1-4.
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My problem with Jackson isn't necessarily that he vandalized a car, its WHOS car he vandalized. While sure it could be coincidence that he damaged her car, she was still the victim of domestic abuse by one of his teammates. Might it be unrelated? Maybe.
But celtic pride makes me feel cautious about someone who would go out of his way to continue to victimize a victim of assault just because its one of his friends. For his sake I hope there is more to the story, but if not, he just looks like a predator.
Edit: Removed my link, beat me to it The One, TP.
So not only did he damage the car of a victim of one of his friends, he also tried to pay her off for silence. Not loving his attitude at all. At what point do we stop saying he is being a stupid kid, and do we acknowledge he has actual personality flaws? I mean the guy isn't Greg Hardy, but he is no angel.
I've got more of a problem with KU letting Vick player after finding that he likely kicked Calvert in the face.
But, my guess is that this incident had more to do with retaliation for Calvert throwing her drink on Vick, rather than for something that occurred before Jackson got to KU. As for paying her off, these type of settlements happen all the time.
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Just take Fultz and not worry :D
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My problem with Jackson isn't necessarily that he vandalized a car, its WHOS car he vandalized. While sure it could be coincidence that he damaged her car, she was still the victim of domestic abuse by one of his teammates. Might it be unrelated? Maybe.
But celtic pride makes me feel cautious about someone who would go out of his way to continue to victimize a victim of assault just because its one of his friends. For his sake I hope there is more to the story, but if not, he just looks like a predator.
Edit: Removed my link, beat me to it The One, TP.
So not only did he damage the car of a victim of one of his friends, he also tried to pay her off for silence. Not loving his attitude at all. At what point do we stop saying he is being a stupid kid, and do we acknowledge he has actual personality flaws? I mean the guy isn't Greg Hardy, but he is no angel.
He will learn from this
Im not worried
That's a BIG risk triboy...are you willing to put your name on the dotted line to select him at #3 overall in a loaded draft?
Due to this whole mess, Tatum and Isaac are now on the same level as Jackson...if I'm running the Celtics' Big Board.
Blame Jacksons attorney ... Read the story. It was the attorney ... Jackson is very young.
Look I will put my name on the line to say we should take him 2nd, that's not the issue. I just want people to understand that we will have to really be careful because as of right now, he isn't a good person.
What makes you think he will learn from this? There is no evidence that he will. None that he wont, but there is none that he will.
Draymond Green isn't a good person. Dennis Rodman wasn't a good person. Kobe also had his rape case issue. Chief had his weed struggles but none of them killed the locker room or team chemistry.
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My problem with Jackson isn't necessarily that he vandalized a car, its WHOS car he vandalized. While sure it could be coincidence that he damaged her car, she was still the victim of domestic abuse by one of his teammates. Might it be unrelated? Maybe.
But celtic pride makes me feel cautious about someone who would go out of his way to continue to victimize a victim of assault just because its one of his friends. For his sake I hope there is more to the story, but if not, he just looks like a predator.
Edit: Removed my link, beat me to it The One, TP.
So not only did he damage the car of a victim of one of his friends, he also tried to pay her off for silence. Not loving his attitude at all. At what point do we stop saying he is being a stupid kid, and do we acknowledge he has actual personality flaws? I mean the guy isn't Greg Hardy, but he is no angel.
He will learn from this
Im not worried
That's a BIG risk triboy...are you willing to put your name on the dotted line to select him at #3 overall in a loaded draft?
Due to this whole mess, Tatum and Isaac are now on the same level as Jackson...if I'm running the Celtics' Big Board.
Blame Jacksons attorney ... Read the story. It was the attorney ... Jackson is very young.
Look I will put my name on the line to say we should take him 2nd, that's not the issue. I just want people to understand that we will have to really be careful because as of right now, he isn't a good person.
What makes you think he will learn from this? There is no evidence that he will. None that he wont, but there is none that he will.
Draymond Green isn't a good person. Dennis Rodman wasn't a good person. Kobe also had his rape case issue. Chief had his weed struggles but none of them killed the locker room or team chemistry.
There's still time for Green to do that.
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My problem with Jackson isn't necessarily that he vandalized a car, its WHOS car he vandalized. While sure it could be coincidence that he damaged her car, she was still the victim of domestic abuse by one of his teammates. Might it be unrelated? Maybe.
But celtic pride makes me feel cautious about someone who would go out of his way to continue to victimize a victim of assault just because its one of his friends. For his sake I hope there is more to the story, but if not, he just looks like a predator.
Edit: Removed my link, beat me to it The One, TP.
So not only did he damage the car of a victim of one of his friends, he also tried to pay her off for silence. Not loving his attitude at all. At what point do we stop saying he is being a stupid kid, and do we acknowledge he has actual personality flaws? I mean the guy isn't Greg Hardy, but he is no angel.
He will learn from this
Im not worried
That's a BIG risk triboy...are you willing to put your name on the dotted line to select him at #3 overall in a loaded draft?
Due to this whole mess, Tatum and Isaac are now on the same level as Jackson...if I'm running the Celtics' Big Board.
Blame Jacksons attorney ... Read the story. It was the attorney ... Jackson is very young.
Look I will put my name on the line to say we should take him 2nd, that's not the issue. I just want people to understand that we will have to really be careful because as of right now, he isn't a good person.
What makes you think he will learn from this? There is no evidence that he will. None that he wont, but there is none that he will.
Draymond Green isn't a good person. Dennis Rodman wasn't a good person. Kobe also had his rape case issue. Chief had his weed struggles but none of them killed the locker room or team chemistry.
There's still time for Green to do that.
Maybe but they already won one with him. I'll take any off court baggage as long as they don't bring it in locker room and the court and lead us to banner 18 and up.
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Looking like Dr. J out there tonight.
He's the best player in this draft. Get him, Danny.
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Looking like Dr. J out there tonight.
He's the best player in this draft. Get him, Danny.
Lakers will 100 % take Ball first. , should they get first pick.....which I fully expect.
I ll settle for Jackson ;D
Or Fultz ;D
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They can have Ball.
I want Jackson.
A much more complete player than Tatum.
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My problem with Jackson isn't necessarily that he vandalized a car, its WHOS car he vandalized. While sure it could be coincidence that he damaged her car, she was still the victim of domestic abuse by one of his teammates. Might it be unrelated? Maybe.
But celtic pride makes me feel cautious about someone who would go out of his way to continue to victimize a victim of assault just because its one of his friends. For his sake I hope there is more to the story, but if not, he just looks like a predator.
Edit: Removed my link, beat me to it The One, TP.
So not only did he damage the car of a victim of one of his friends, he also tried to pay her off for silence. Not loving his attitude at all. At what point do we stop saying he is being a stupid kid, and do we acknowledge he has actual personality flaws? I mean the guy isn't Greg Hardy, but he is no angel.
He will learn from this
Im not worried
That's a BIG risk triboy...are you willing to put your name on the dotted line to select him at #3 overall in a loaded draft?
Due to this whole mess, Tatum and Isaac are now on the same level as Jackson...if I'm running the Celtics' Big Board.
Blame Jacksons attorney ... Read the story. It was the attorney ... Jackson is very young.
Look I will put my name on the line to say we should take him 2nd, that's not the issue. I just want people to understand that we will have to really be careful because as of right now, he isn't a good person.
What makes you think he will learn from this? There is no evidence that he will. None that he wont, but there is none that he will.
Draymond Green isn't a good person. Dennis Rodman wasn't a good person. Kobe also had his rape case issue. Chief had his weed struggles but none of them killed the locker room or team chemistry.
There's still time for Green to do that.
Maybe but they already won one with him. I'll take any off court baggage as long as they don't bring it in locker room and the court and lead us to banner 18 and up.
He also already cost them a championship by getting suspended for hitting the opponent in the nuts. Not many guys out there you can say that about.
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Im glad Danny is sitting at home watching the tourney. These performances are so over hyped and I mean that for all players.
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Josh Jackson is good man.
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17 points, 7 rebounds on 8-12 shooting. Pretty nice from Jackson!
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Jackson was on level 6 tonight
Not even trying all that hard...
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My problem with Jackson isn't necessarily that he vandalized a car, its WHOS car he vandalized. While sure it could be coincidence that he damaged her car, she was still the victim of domestic abuse by one of his teammates. Might it be unrelated? Maybe.
But celtic pride makes me feel cautious about someone who would go out of his way to continue to victimize a victim of assault just because its one of his friends. For his sake I hope there is more to the story, but if not, he just looks like a predator.
Edit: Removed my link, beat me to it The One, TP.
So not only did he damage the car of a victim of one of his friends, he also tried to pay her off for silence. Not loving his attitude at all. At what point do we stop saying he is being a stupid kid, and do we acknowledge he has actual personality flaws? I mean the guy isn't Greg Hardy, but he is no angel.
He will learn from this
Im not worried
That's a BIG risk triboy...are you willing to put your name on the dotted line to select him at #3 overall in a loaded draft?
Due to this whole mess, Tatum and Isaac are now on the same level as Jackson...if I'm running the Celtics' Big Board.
Blame Jacksons attorney ... Read the story. It was the attorney ... Jackson is very young.
Look I will put my name on the line to say we should take him 2nd, that's not the issue. I just want people to understand that we will have to really be careful because as of right now, he isn't a good person.
What makes you think he will learn from this? There is no evidence that he will. None that he wont, but there is none that he will.
Draymond Green isn't a good person. Dennis Rodman wasn't a good person. Kobe also had his rape case issue. Chief had his weed struggles but none of them killed the locker room or team chemistry.
There's still time for Green to do that.
Maybe but they already won one with him. I'll take any off court baggage as long as they don't bring it in locker room and the court and lead us to banner 18 and up.
He also already cost them a championship by getting suspended for hitting the opponent in the nuts. Not many guys out there you can say that about.
That T was a joke anyway. Should have called it during the game, not after LeBron complained about it in the post game.
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17 points, 7 rebounds on 8-12 shooting. Pretty nice from Jackson!
In 23 minutes. Typical efficiency from this guy.
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Josh Jackson vs UC Davis // NCAA Tournament // 3.17.17 // 17 Pts, 7 Rebs . Kansas wins
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bK5-JwlC6Sc
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good match up happening right now... Miles Bridges vs Josh Jackson
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/game?gameId=400947223
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What a stud Jackson is.
Hoping we land him, I take him #1
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yeah I hope DA was watching this game. Jackson a huge difference maker. Maybe I haven't seen Fultz play enough, but I don't see how he has a higher ceiling than Jackson. Jackson just abusing Michigan State.
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Jackson blows by Bridges for dunk...game over...
23 pts today. Kansas to face Purdue next - sweet 16
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xjGLw246NOc
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yeah I hope DA was watching this game. Jackson a huge difference maker. Maybe I haven't seen Fultz play enough, but I don't see how he has a higher ceiling than Jackson. Jackson just abusing Michigan State.
you bet he is...
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This is great for our pick. If Jackson emerges as a legitimate top pick contender it becomes more valuable. Maybe its now considered a 3 person draft.
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Remember James Young looked dang good too during his tournament.... ;D
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Remember James Young looked dang good too during his tournament.... ;D
We dont know how decent Young is , as CBS does not play him
The times we have seen him this season, he has performed quite nicely... then goes back to th bench
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Remember James Young looked dang good too during his tournament.... ;D
We dont know how decent Young is , as CBS does not play him
You don't think one thing has something to do with the other?
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Josh was great out there today, especially the time when the team fed him the ball. Is it just me or does he seem to be bigger than 6'8?
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This is great for our pick. If Jackson emerges as a legitimate top pick contender it becomes more valuable. Maybe its now considered a 3 person draft.
Several of us (cfan60's, triboy, me, among a few others) have been touting this kid for over a month.
Jackson is a basketball player. Very high IQ. Even when he is having an off game he still figures out how to help the team. Really hope we draft him. My one worry is that he will rise to become the consensus number 1 pick, and we wont hold the pick. Almost wishing he would have a bad game and exit tourney early. Lay low in the weeds. Ha ha.
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This is great for our pick. If Jackson emerges as a legitimate top pick contender it becomes more valuable. Maybe its now considered a 3 person draft.
Several of us (cfan60's, triboy, me, among a few others) have been touting this kid for over a month.
Jackson is a basketball player. Very high IQ. Even when he is having an off game he still figures out how to help the team. Really hope we draft him. My one worry is that he will rise to become the consensus number 1 pick, and we wont hold the pick. Almost wishing he would have a bad game and exit tourney early. Lay low in the weeds. Ha ha.
eh. ball Fultz and Tatum are also great prospects.
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So its official its a two man draft? Jackson and Fultz.
Do we have a Fultz thread?
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So its official its a two man draft? Jackson and Fultz.
Do we have a Fultz thread?
Yea its an on again off again flame thread where people talk about how their binkies are better than Fultz. Alot of Fultz supporters have kind of moved on in regards to how good Fultz is. Everybody knows he is good at everything.
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http://www.espn.com/espn/now?nowId=21-0635279468079881622-4
Long time NBA GM says there's probably 4 number one picks in this draft (Fultz, Ball, Jackson, and Tatum). That's GREAT for our pick. I still prefer Fultz, but I'd probably be fine with Jackson or Tatum, too. I'm just not really a fan of Ball.
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Yea its an on again off again flame thread where people talk about how their binkies are better than Fultz. Alot of Fultz supporters have kind of moved on in regards to how good Fultz is. Everybody knows he is good at everything.
Except winning, let the excuses begin and they ignore his knees.
I would have liked to see him in the Tourney but his team did not make it there. There are other young teams that made it. So nix that one, the team not being good is one that I hear most in regards to their poor record.
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This is great for our pick. If Jackson emerges as a legitimate top pick contender it becomes more valuable. Maybe its now considered a 3 person draft.
Several of us (cfan60's, triboy, me, among a few others) have been touting this kid for over a month.
Jackson is a basketball player. Very high IQ. Even when he is having an off game he still figures out how to help the team. Really hope we draft him. My one worry is that he will rise to become the consensus number 1 pick, and we wont hold the pick. Almost wishing he would have a bad game and exit tourney early. Lay low in the weeds. Ha ha.
;D
exactly... Jackson just looks more explosive than anyone else on the floor, plus bbiq plus skills....
seriously he is not even breaking a sweat so far in this tourney
there were a few games this season where I saw him really stepping up in intensity and those ones either involved scouts attending games and or Graham, Mason Jr. struggling
i mean he doesn't take plays off anyways...but just knowing he has a afterburn button he can hit at any point...
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Michigan State vs. Kansas: Josh Jackson 23 points
I really feel this game encapsulates Jackson's skill set perfectly.
Rim protection: https://youtu.be/2Lg0LsF2YPo?t=5s
Ball handling: https://youtu.be/2Lg0LsF2YPo?t=12s
Post-up & finish: https://youtu.be/2Lg0LsF2YPo?t=19s
3 point range: https://youtu.be/2Lg0LsF2YPo?t=28s
Defensive awareness: https://youtu.be/2Lg0LsF2YPo?t=46s
Attacking the basket: https://youtu.be/2Lg0LsF2YPo?t=1m
Creating his own shot: https://youtu.be/2Lg0LsF2YPo?t=1m11s
Athleticism: https://youtu.be/2Lg0LsF2YPo?t=1m39s
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Michigan State vs. Kansas: Josh Jackson 23 points
I really feel this game encapsulates Jackson's skill set perfectly.
Rim protection: https://youtu.be/2Lg0LsF2YPo?t=5s
Ball handling: https://youtu.be/2Lg0LsF2YPo?t=12s
Post-up & finish: https://youtu.be/2Lg0LsF2YPo?t=19s
3 point range: https://youtu.be/2Lg0LsF2YPo?t=28s
Defensive awareness: https://youtu.be/2Lg0LsF2YPo?t=46s
Attacking the basket: https://youtu.be/2Lg0LsF2YPo?t=1m
Creating his own shot: https://youtu.be/2Lg0LsF2YPo?t=1m11s
Athleticism: https://youtu.be/2Lg0LsF2YPo?t=1m39s
rim-protection and 3 point range are not really part of Jacksons skill set as far as Im concerned.
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Michigan State vs. Kansas: Josh Jackson 23 points
I really feel this game encapsulates Jackson's skill set perfectly.
Rim protection: https://youtu.be/2Lg0LsF2YPo?t=5s
Ball handling: https://youtu.be/2Lg0LsF2YPo?t=12s
Post-up & finish: https://youtu.be/2Lg0LsF2YPo?t=19s
3 point range: https://youtu.be/2Lg0LsF2YPo?t=28s
Defensive awareness: https://youtu.be/2Lg0LsF2YPo?t=46s
Attacking the basket: https://youtu.be/2Lg0LsF2YPo?t=1m
Creating his own shot: https://youtu.be/2Lg0LsF2YPo?t=1m11s
Athleticism: https://youtu.be/2Lg0LsF2YPo?t=1m39s
rim-protection and 3 point range are not really part of Jacksons skill set as far as Im concerned.
Skill set means he has the ability to do these skills, just because he can't perform some of them on a high level NOW doesn't mean down the road he won't be elite at either.
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im dreaming of a Smart, Jackson, Brown perimeter defense. :o
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Yea its an on again off again flame thread where people talk about how their binkies are better than Fultz. Alot of Fultz supporters have kind of moved on in regards to how good Fultz is. Everybody knows he is good at everything.
Except winning, let the excuses begin and they ignore his knees.
I would have liked to see him in the Tourney but his team did not make it there. There are other young teams that made it. So nix that one, the team not being good is one that I hear most in regards to their poor record.
What notable guys that ended up winning it all (besides the super stacked UK and Duke teams) in college, and became star players in the NBA?
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I watched that entire Kansas game. It's pretty hard not to fall in love with Jackson. I think he's better than Ball at this point. I'd still take Fultz, but Wouldn't be upset if we took Jackson. I mean he really wasn't breaking a sweat out there. Funny thing is that Kevin O'Connor believes his shooting is a mirage. I don't understand why he doesn't believe in Jacksons shooting ability. It looks pretty sweet to me.
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I watched that entire Kansas game. It's pretty hard not to fall in love with Jackson. I think he's better than Ball at this point. I'd still take Fultz, but Wouldn't be upset if we took Jackson. I mean he really wasn't breaking a sweat out there. Funny thing is that Kevin O'Connor believes his shooting is a mirage. I don't understand why he doesn't believe in Jacksons shooting ability. It looks pretty sweet to me.
2-4 from 3
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Some good information here:
"Jackson and Bridges are such incredible athletes that the minor flaws in their physical dimensions — Jackson’s lack of strength, Bridges’s lack of length — aren’t normally a huge issue. However, they were both exposed when they were forced to go up against someone who was just as athletic as they were. Once they get to the NBA, that will happen all the time."
"According to the tracking numbers at Synergy Sports, Jackson is averaging 0.882 points per possession in the post, putting him in the 60th percentile of college players, and that number could go even higher if he’s playing as a small forward in the NBA, where he’ll face shorter defenders."
https://theringer.com/2017-ncaa-tournament-kansas-michigan-state-josh-jackson-miles-bridges-6ceb55e0a39e#.u1evy2r1b
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Higlights vs msu
That first block....wauhhh
https://youtu.be/2Lg0LsF2YPo
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I would have liked to see Jackson vs Fultz in College .
Sure we ll see it in the NBA
Lakers vs Celtics ?
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I posted this question in the Jayson Tatum thread. Note that I like Jackson over Tatum:
First off, I really like Jayson Tatum and am psyched that he may be our worse case scenario.
It sounds like people are thinking Tatum is an NBA power forward. Am I right on that? Because I've also read here that Josh Jackson is a wing and Jaylen is a better fit to play 4 than Josh.
Tatum is 6'8" and 205 lbs, averaging 16.8 points, 7.3 reb, 45% FG% and 34% 3FG%.
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/4065648/jayson-tatum
Jackson is 6'8", 207 lbs, averaging 16.6 points, 7.1 reb, 52% FG% and 38% 3FG%.
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/4066297/josh-jackson
I always saw Tatum as a small forward, and I didn't even know how close the stats were between them except for Jackson's better passing and Tatum's better FT shooting. Do people think he's more of a PF, and if so, why is hardly no one saying Jackson can be a PF with the same physical measurements, a high FG%, lower FT%, and nearly identical scoring and rebounding #'s?
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I watched that entire Kansas game. It's pretty hard not to fall in love with Jackson. I think he's better than Ball at this point. I'd still take Fultz, but Wouldn't be upset if we took Jackson. I mean he really wasn't breaking a sweat out there. Funny thing is that Kevin O'Connor believes his shooting is a mirage. I don't understand why he doesn't believe in Jacksons shooting ability. It looks pretty sweet to me.
2-4 from 3
Not only that, almost 39% from 3 point range on the season. And he hit some fantastic turnaround jumpers that I'm dying to see consistently from Jaylen. I honestly wonder if the mirage is GMs are putting out this info about doubting his shooting, because Tatum is shooting 34% and I'm not hearing anyone questioning his 3PT shooting nearly as loudly. He's been shooting like 50% for nearly as much of the year as he shot 28%, and against better teams too.
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I posted this question in the Jayson Tatum thread. Note that I like Jackson over Tatum:
First off, I really like Jayson Tatum and am psyched that he may be our worse case scenario.
It sounds like people are thinking Tatum is an NBA power forward. Am I right on that? Because I've also read here that Josh Jackson is a wing and Jaylen is a better fit to play 4 than Josh.
Tatum is 6'8" and 205 lbs, averaging 16.8 points, 7.3 reb, 45% FG% and 34% 3FG%.
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/4065648/jayson-tatum
Jackson is 6'8", 207 lbs, averaging 16.6 points, 7.1 reb, 52% FG% and 38% 3FG%.
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/4066297/josh-jackson
I always saw Tatum as a small forward, and I didn't even know how close the stats were between them except for Jackson's better passing and Tatum's better FT shooting. Do people think he's more of a PF, and if so, why is hardly no one saying Jackson can be a PF with the same physical measurements, a high FG%, lower FT%, and nearly identical scoring and rebounding #'s?
I dont think either are power forwards. They can play it in some matchups but its not something they will play full time.
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Big game vs Purdue tonight
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I posted this question in the Jayson Tatum thread. Note that I like Jackson over Tatum:
First off, I really like Jayson Tatum and am psyched that he may be our worse case scenario.
It sounds like people are thinking Tatum is an NBA power forward. Am I right on that? Because I've also read here that Josh Jackson is a wing and Jaylen is a better fit to play 4 than Josh.
Tatum is 6'8" and 205 lbs, averaging 16.8 points, 7.3 reb, 45% FG% and 34% 3FG%.
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/4065648/jayson-tatum
Jackson is 6'8", 207 lbs, averaging 16.6 points, 7.1 reb, 52% FG% and 38% 3FG%.
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/4066297/josh-jackson
I always saw Tatum as a small forward, and I didn't even know how close the stats were between them except for Jackson's better passing and Tatum's better FT shooting. Do people think he's more of a PF, and if so, why is hardly no one saying Jackson can be a PF with the same physical measurements, a high FG%, lower FT%, and nearly identical scoring and rebounding #'s?
I've seen this kind of thinking too, and I'm not sure why. Both seem at home on the wing, and their body types both indicate that playing at SF would be better, yet many still think Tatum is a PF.
My understanding is that both could play PF in certain lineups, but it is definitely not either of their preferred position.
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I posted this question in the Jayson Tatum thread. Note that I like Jackson over Tatum:
First off, I really like Jayson Tatum and am psyched that he may be our worse case scenario.
It sounds like people are thinking Tatum is an NBA power forward. Am I right on that? Because I've also read here that Josh Jackson is a wing and Jaylen is a better fit to play 4 than Josh.
Tatum is 6'8" and 205 lbs, averaging 16.8 points, 7.3 reb, 45% FG% and 34% 3FG%.
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/4065648/jayson-tatum
Jackson is 6'8", 207 lbs, averaging 16.6 points, 7.1 reb, 52% FG% and 38% 3FG%.
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/4066297/josh-jackson
I always saw Tatum as a small forward, and I didn't even know how close the stats were between them except for Jackson's better passing and Tatum's better FT shooting. Do people think he's more of a PF, and if so, why is hardly no one saying Jackson can be a PF with the same physical measurements, a high FG%, lower FT%, and nearly identical scoring and rebounding #'s?
I've seen this kind of thinking too, and I'm not sure why. Both seem at home on the wing, and their body types both indicate that playing at SF would be better, yet many still think Tatum is a PF.
My understanding is that both could play PF in certain lineups, but it is definitely not either of their preferred position.
Tatum body shape (wide shoulders, top heavy) , lack of "fast twitch", tendecy to battle down low for rebounds/alter shots, makes him a better candidate to play pf imo
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I posted this question in the Jayson Tatum thread. Note that I like Jackson over Tatum:
First off, I really like Jayson Tatum and am psyched that he may be our worse case scenario.
It sounds like people are thinking Tatum is an NBA power forward. Am I right on that? Because I've also read here that Josh Jackson is a wing and Jaylen is a better fit to play 4 than Josh.
Tatum is 6'8" and 205 lbs, averaging 16.8 points, 7.3 reb, 45% FG% and 34% 3FG%.
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/4065648/jayson-tatum
Jackson is 6'8", 207 lbs, averaging 16.6 points, 7.1 reb, 52% FG% and 38% 3FG%.
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/4066297/josh-jackson
I always saw Tatum as a small forward, and I didn't even know how close the stats were between them except for Jackson's better passing and Tatum's better FT shooting. Do people think he's more of a PF, and if so, why is hardly no one saying Jackson can be a PF with the same physical measurements, a high FG%, lower FT%, and nearly identical scoring and rebounding #'s?
I've seen this kind of thinking too, and I'm not sure why. Both seem at home on the wing, and their body types both indicate that playing at SF would be better, yet many still think Tatum is a PF.
My understanding is that both could play PF in certain lineups, but it is definitely not either of their preferred position.
Tatum body shape (wide shoulders, top heavy) , lack of "fast twitch", tendecy to battle down low for rebounds/alter shots, makes him a better candidate to play pf imo
I agree with that, but I still think he's best suited to playing SF - or at least at the moment. His body type reminds me a little of Danny Granger's, especially if he's able to pack on 20 or so pounds.
I prefer Jackson over Tatum, but he is a really nice consolation prize in our worst case scenario.
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I posted this question in the Jayson Tatum thread. Note that I like Jackson over Tatum:
First off, I really like Jayson Tatum and am psyched that he may be our worse case scenario.
It sounds like people are thinking Tatum is an NBA power forward. Am I right on that? Because I've also read here that Josh Jackson is a wing and Jaylen is a better fit to play 4 than Josh.
Tatum is 6'8" and 205 lbs, averaging 16.8 points, 7.3 reb, 45% FG% and 34% 3FG%.
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/4065648/jayson-tatum
Jackson is 6'8", 207 lbs, averaging 16.6 points, 7.1 reb, 52% FG% and 38% 3FG%.
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/4066297/josh-jackson
I always saw Tatum as a small forward, and I didn't even know how close the stats were between them except for Jackson's better passing and Tatum's better FT shooting. Do people think he's more of a PF, and if so, why is hardly no one saying Jackson can be a PF with the same physical measurements, a high FG%, lower FT%, and nearly identical scoring and rebounding #'s?
I've seen this kind of thinking too, and I'm not sure why. Both seem at home on the wing, and their body types both indicate that playing at SF would be better, yet many still think Tatum is a PF.
My understanding is that both could play PF in certain lineups, but it is definitely not either of their preferred position.
Tatum body shape (wide shoulders, top heavy) , lack of "fast twitch", tendecy to battle down low for rebounds/alter shots, makes him a better candidate to play pf imo
I agree with that, but I still think he's best suited to playing SF - or at least at the moment. His body type reminds me a little of Danny Granger's, especially if he's able to pack on 20 or so pounds.
I prefer Jackson over Tatum, but he is a really nice consolation prize in our worst case scenario.
I think come the combine tatum will impress.... Either an inch taller, longer wingspan or reach ... Or all the above. His ability to stretch as a 4 will be nice.... So he doesnt giveup much at the defensive end and also because of his perimeter skills may cause opposing 4s headaches on offense....
But as a sf the advantages become thin.... He can overpower sfs but that is not really his game. On defense for a sf versatality, perimeter D are important today. Again not his biggest strongsuit
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JAckson after a slow start is heating up...
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/boxscore?gameId=400947321
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Jackson looks huge, like Durant size. His fro probably helps him seem a bit bigger, but he looks like he has legit size for a wing in the NBA.
I do not like his shot, though. He seems to dip the ball even more than Smart, which is problematic for long-term efficiency.
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Jackson looks huge, like Durant size. His fro probably helps him seem a bit bigger, but he looks like he has legit size for a wing in the NBA.
I do not like his shot, though. He seems to dip the ball even more than Smart, which is problematic for long-term efficiency.
Jackson nowhere close to Durant's height.
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I posted this question in the Jayson Tatum thread. Note that I like Jackson over Tatum:
First off, I really like Jayson Tatum and am psyched that he may be our worse case scenario.
It sounds like people are thinking Tatum is an NBA power forward. Am I right on that? Because I've also read here that Josh Jackson is a wing and Jaylen is a better fit to play 4 than Josh.
Tatum is 6'8" and 205 lbs, averaging 16.8 points, 7.3 reb, 45% FG% and 34% 3FG%.
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/4065648/jayson-tatum
Jackson is 6'8", 207 lbs, averaging 16.6 points, 7.1 reb, 52% FG% and 38% 3FG%.
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/4066297/josh-jackson
I always saw Tatum as a small forward, and I didn't even know how close the stats were between them except for Jackson's better passing and Tatum's better FT shooting. Do people think he's more of a PF, and if so, why is hardly no one saying Jackson can be a PF with the same physical measurements, a high FG%, lower FT%, and nearly identical scoring and rebounding #'s?
I've seen this kind of thinking too, and I'm not sure why. Both seem at home on the wing, and their body types both indicate that playing at SF would be better, yet many still think Tatum is a PF.
My understanding is that both could play PF in certain lineups, but it is definitely not either of their preferred position.
Tatum body shape (wide shoulders, top heavy) , lack of "fast twitch", tendecy to battle down low for rebounds/alter shots, makes him a better candidate to play pf imo
I agree with that, but I still think he's best suited to playing SF - or at least at the moment. His body type reminds me a little of Danny Granger's, especially if he's able to pack on 20 or so pounds.
I prefer Jackson over Tatum, but he is a really nice consolation prize in our worst case scenario.
I think come the combine tatum will impress.... Either an inch taller, longer wingspan or reach ... Or all the above. His ability to stretch as a 4 will be nice.... So he doesnt giveup much at the defensive end and also because of his perimeter skills may cause opposing 4s headaches on offense....
But as a sf the advantages become thin.... He can overpower sfs but that is not really his game. On defense for a sf versatality, perimeter D are important today. Again not his biggest strongsuit
I'm a Jackson fan too, but like Tatum if we fall to 4. He has a Peirce feel too him. Not saying as good, who knows, but a guy not super athletic, but good foot work, who can work the post and bang inside.
I could see Jackson playing the two(yes BS doesn't have positions), but he seems smooth and quick enough like PG13 to play the off guard, and Brown will be better suited long term at the SF and be that hard nose driver like Butler....
If we don't trade our pick and sign Hayward, having Brown and Jackson off the bench with Smart is one defensive nightmare for the opposing teams bench.
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Jackson looks huge, like Durant size. His fro probably helps him seem a bit bigger, but he looks like he has legit size for a wing in the NBA.
I do not like his shot, though. He seems to dip the ball even more than Smart, which is problematic for long-term efficiency.
Jackson nowhere close to Durant's height.
plus he has really short arms for his height.
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I posted this question in the Jayson Tatum thread. Note that I like Jackson over Tatum:
First off, I really like Jayson Tatum and am psyched that he may be our worse case scenario.
It sounds like people are thinking Tatum is an NBA power forward. Am I right on that? Because I've also read here that Josh Jackson is a wing and Jaylen is a better fit to play 4 than Josh.
Tatum is 6'8" and 205 lbs, averaging 16.8 points, 7.3 reb, 45% FG% and 34% 3FG%.
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/4065648/jayson-tatum
Jackson is 6'8", 207 lbs, averaging 16.6 points, 7.1 reb, 52% FG% and 38% 3FG%.
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/4066297/josh-jackson
I always saw Tatum as a small forward, and I didn't even know how close the stats were between them except for Jackson's better passing and Tatum's better FT shooting. Do people think he's more of a PF, and if so, why is hardly no one saying Jackson can be a PF with the same physical measurements, a high FG%, lower FT%, and nearly identical scoring and rebounding #'s?
I've seen this kind of thinking too, and I'm not sure why. Both seem at home on the wing, and their body types both indicate that playing at SF would be better, yet many still think Tatum is a PF.
My understanding is that both could play PF in certain lineups, but it is definitely not either of their preferred position.
Tatum body shape (wide shoulders, top heavy) , lack of "fast twitch", tendecy to battle down low for rebounds/alter shots, makes him a better candidate to play pf imo
I agree with that, but I still think he's best suited to playing SF - or at least at the moment. His body type reminds me a little of Danny Granger's, especially if he's able to pack on 20 or so pounds.
I prefer Jackson over Tatum, but he is a really nice consolation prize in our worst case scenario.
I think come the combine tatum will impress.... Either an inch taller, longer wingspan or reach ... Or all the above. His ability to stretch as a 4 will be nice.... So he doesnt giveup much at the defensive end and also because of his perimeter skills may cause opposing 4s headaches on offense....
But as a sf the advantages become thin.... He can overpower sfs but that is not really his game. On defense for a sf versatality, perimeter D are important today. Again not his biggest strongsuit
I'm a Jackson fan too, but like Tatum if we fall to 4. He has a Peirce feel too him. Not saying as good, who knows, but a guy not super athletic, but good foot work, who can work the post and bang inside.
I could see Jackson playing the two(yes BS doesn't have positions), but he seems smooth and quick enough like PG13 to play the off guard, and Brown will be better suited long term at the SF and be that hard nose driver like Butler....
If we don't trade our pick and sign Hayward, having Brown and Jackson off the bench with Smart is one defensive nightmare for the opposing teams bench.
I think Jackson will be best suited at the 2 out of the gate. His quickness and fluidity make that a nice fit. Hes no where near strong enough to play the 4 right now on a regular basis.
To use Brad's position lingo, both Brown and Jackson should be wings.
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Jackson looks huge, like Durant size. His fro probably helps him seem a bit bigger, but he looks like he has legit size for a wing in the NBA.
I do not like his shot, though. He seems to dip the ball even more than Smart, which is problematic for long-term efficiency.
Jackson nowhere close to Durant's height.
plus he has really short arms for his height.
No he doesn't. He doesn't have long arms, but his wingspan is still greater than his height. That said, he's nothing like Durant in terms of size. That's confusing him with Jonathan Isaac.
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Jackson looks huge, like Durant size. His fro probably helps him seem a bit bigger, but he looks like he has legit size for a wing in the NBA.
I do not like his shot, though. He seems to dip the ball even more than Smart, which is problematic for long-term efficiency.
Jackson nowhere close to Durant's height.
plus he has really short arms for his height.
No he doesn't. He doesn't have long arms, but his wingspan is still greater than his height. That said, he's nothing like Durant in terms of size. That's confusing him with Jonathan Isaac.
I had heard that his wingspan was somewhat troubling and would prevent him from ever playing the 4.
Turns out thats not quite right. Instead his thin frame should prevent him from playing the 4.
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I posted this question in the Jayson Tatum thread. Note that I like Jackson over Tatum:
First off, I really like Jayson Tatum and am psyched that he may be our worse case scenario.
It sounds like people are thinking Tatum is an NBA power forward. Am I right on that? Because I've also read here that Josh Jackson is a wing and Jaylen is a better fit to play 4 than Josh.
Tatum is 6'8" and 205 lbs, averaging 16.8 points, 7.3 reb, 45% FG% and 34% 3FG%.
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/4065648/jayson-tatum
Jackson is 6'8", 207 lbs, averaging 16.6 points, 7.1 reb, 52% FG% and 38% 3FG%.
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/4066297/josh-jackson
I always saw Tatum as a small forward, and I didn't even know how close the stats were between them except for Jackson's better passing and Tatum's better FT shooting. Do people think he's more of a PF, and if so, why is hardly no one saying Jackson can be a PF with the same physical measurements, a high FG%, lower FT%, and nearly identical scoring and rebounding #'s?
I've seen this kind of thinking too, and I'm not sure why. Both seem at home on the wing, and their body types both indicate that playing at SF would be better, yet many still think Tatum is a PF.
My understanding is that both could play PF in certain lineups, but it is definitely not either of their preferred position.
Tatum body shape (wide shoulders, top heavy) , lack of "fast twitch", tendecy to battle down low for rebounds/alter shots, makes him a better candidate to play pf imo
I agree with that, but I still think he's best suited to playing SF - or at least at the moment. His body type reminds me a little of Danny Granger's, especially if he's able to pack on 20 or so pounds.
I prefer Jackson over Tatum, but he is a really nice consolation prize in our worst case scenario.
I think come the combine tatum will impress.... Either an inch taller, longer wingspan or reach ... Or all the above. His ability to stretch as a 4 will be nice.... So he doesnt giveup much at the defensive end and also because of his perimeter skills may cause opposing 4s headaches on offense....
But as a sf the advantages become thin.... He can overpower sfs but that is not really his game. On defense for a sf versatality, perimeter D are important today. Again not his biggest strongsuit
I'm a Jackson fan too, but like Tatum if we fall to 4. He has a Peirce feel too him. Not saying as good, who knows, but a guy not super athletic, but good foot work, who can work the post and bang inside.
I could see Jackson playing the two(yes BS doesn't have positions), but he seems smooth and quick enough like PG13 to play the off guard, and Brown will be better suited long term at the SF and be that hard nose driver like Butler....
If we don't trade our pick and sign Hayward, having Brown and Jackson off the bench with Smart is one defensive nightmare for the opposing teams bench.
I think Jackson will be best suited at the 2 out of the gate. His quickness and fluidity make that a nice fit. Hes no where near strong enough to play the 4 right now on a regular basis.
To use Brad's position lingo, both Brown and Jackson should be wings.
Jackson is a wing, but long-term Brown is a swing. That 7-foot wingspan and strong frame will let him guard the 4 as he gains more experience.
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Jackson looks huge, like Durant size. His fro probably helps him seem a bit bigger, but he looks like he has legit size for a wing in the NBA.
I do not like his shot, though. He seems to dip the ball even more than Smart, which is problematic for long-term efficiency.
Jackson nowhere close to Durant's height.
plus he has really short arms for his height.
According to DraftExpress his measurements are 6'7.8" in shoes and 6'9.8" wingspan...this isn't short at all.
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Barkley said Jackson plays like a free safety. He's athletic enough to double everyone.
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I posted this question in the Jayson Tatum thread. Note that I like Jackson over Tatum:
First off, I really like Jayson Tatum and am psyched that he may be our worse case scenario.
It sounds like people are thinking Tatum is an NBA power forward. Am I right on that? Because I've also read here that Josh Jackson is a wing and Jaylen is a better fit to play 4 than Josh.
Tatum is 6'8" and 205 lbs, averaging 16.8 points, 7.3 reb, 45% FG% and 34% 3FG%.
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/4065648/jayson-tatum
Jackson is 6'8", 207 lbs, averaging 16.6 points, 7.1 reb, 52% FG% and 38% 3FG%.
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/4066297/josh-jackson
I always saw Tatum as a small forward, and I didn't even know how close the stats were between them except for Jackson's better passing and Tatum's better FT shooting. Do people think he's more of a PF, and if so, why is hardly no one saying Jackson can be a PF with the same physical measurements, a high FG%, lower FT%, and nearly identical scoring and rebounding #'s?
I've seen this kind of thinking too, and I'm not sure why. Both seem at home on the wing, and their body types both indicate that playing at SF would be better, yet many still think Tatum is a PF.
My understanding is that both could play PF in certain lineups, but it is definitely not either of their preferred position.
First TP for you G.
I said a while ago I found the Celtics PF of the future Josh Jackson. It got mixed reviews.
Now in the NBA if he gains 10 pounds he can play it IMO.
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Jackson can play power forward in small ball lineup. If you want to put a label on him, he's a point forward. Has great court awareness and vision, pushes it up quickly, kind of similar to Ball in that way. He will be able to pblow by bigger power forwards in NBA and post up smaller 3's. I think he would thrive in Brad's system and this roster.
Man, if Nets beat Wiz in DC tonight I'm officially going to worry whether Jackson will be available when we pick.
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I knew that he caused property damage.
I did not know that he threatened to beat a woman up.
He's 6'8"...she's 5'9".
http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaab/2017/03/16/affidavit-josh-jackson-threatened-to-beat-womens-player/99270048/
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I knew that he caused property damage.
I did not know that he threatened to beat a woman up.
He's 6'8"...she's 5'9".
http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaab/2017/03/16/affidavit-josh-jackson-threatened-to-beat-womens-player/99270048/
He definitely has an edge to him, that's for sure.
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Jackson can play power forward in small ball lineup. If you want to put a label on him, he's a point forward. Has great court awareness and vision, pushes it up quickly, kind of similar to Ball in that way. He will be able to pblow by bigger power forwards in NBA and post up smaller 3's. I think he would thrive in Brad's system and this roster.
Man, if Nets beat Wiz in DC tonight I'm officially going to worry whether Jackson will be available when we pick.
Given the standings, that's a tough choice, but yeah I would have to root for the Wiz too.
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http://www.nbadraft.net
Recent mock has the Celts taking Jackson 1st :laugh:
Lakers take Ball, Suns take Fultz, Magic take Fox, 76ers Tatum
Looks good
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I posted this question in the Jayson Tatum thread. Note that I like Jackson over Tatum:
First off, I really like Jayson Tatum and am psyched that he may be our worse case scenario.
It sounds like people are thinking Tatum is an NBA power forward. Am I right on that? Because I've also read here that Josh Jackson is a wing and Jaylen is a better fit to play 4 than Josh.
Tatum is 6'8" and 205 lbs, averaging 16.8 points, 7.3 reb, 45% FG% and 34% 3FG%.
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/4065648/jayson-tatum
Jackson is 6'8", 207 lbs, averaging 16.6 points, 7.1 reb, 52% FG% and 38% 3FG%.
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/4066297/josh-jackson
I always saw Tatum as a small forward, and I didn't even know how close the stats were between them except for Jackson's better passing and Tatum's better FT shooting. Do people think he's more of a PF, and if so, why is hardly no one saying Jackson can be a PF with the same physical measurements, a high FG%, lower FT%, and nearly identical scoring and rebounding #'s?
I've seen this kind of thinking too, and I'm not sure why. Both seem at home on the wing, and their body types both indicate that playing at SF would be better, yet many still think Tatum is a PF.
My understanding is that both could play PF in certain lineups, but it is definitely not either of their preferred position.
First TP for you G.
I said a while ago I found the Celtics PF of the future Josh Jackson. It got mixed reviews.
Now in the NBA if he gains 10 pounds he can play it IMO.
Right back at you!
But honestly that would be quite interesting, because I can easily see him doing that. With that athleticism he could be anything at power forward. I can't quite think of a comparison (maybe a playmaking rich mans Marvin Williams), but it could be very interesting.
Wherever he plays, Jackson and Brown on the court at the same time would be a plain nightmare for the opposition.
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what to do what to do Josh Jackson is playing, and I want to watch Cavs Wizards.
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two quick fouls on Jackson he is on the bench with 17 left in the first.
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poor 1st half for Jackson
early fouls and 0 points
he has to get it going in the 2nd half.... Oregon came to play. Playing very tough
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what to do what to do Josh Jackson is playing, and I want to watch Cavs Wizards.
What the Cavs/Wiz. You'll have about eight minutes per game to watch Jackson next year after Ainge drafts him.
Mike
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Chad Finn of the Boston Globe said Yesterday that Jackson plays like a Celtic and Ball plays like a Laker. I agree.
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Chad Finn of the Boston Globe said Yesterday that Jackson plays like a Celtic and Ball plays like a Laker. I agree.
True ......I thought the same ......Lakers want show boating glitz , TV ready players/ divas ..not guys who want to fight in the trenchs .
Paul George is born to be a Laker too.
Celtics are the tuff underdog , chip on shoulder , hard hat , work a holic crowd ........don't mix with Laker divas
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I'm still on the Fultz or Jackson train now .....for better or worse,
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If we pick #1 overall It's gotta be Fultz. If we pick 2-4 it has to be Jackson if he is available. It might work out because I cant see the Lakers passing on Ball even though hed be redundant to their roster.
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was hitting the jump shot at a nice rate...except for last night
at the nba level may have more room to operate. jump shot needs to keep improving (especially FT)
needs to add more strength
I like Jackson better than Tatum...but I'm ok with Jackson, Fultz or Tatum with one of the Nets pick... No Ball and his headache dad
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He was very tentative after picking up 2nd foul and did not assert aggressive play until well into the 2nd half when it was too little too late.
The Oregon game really showed how much Kansas was diminished without aggressive Jackson in lineup. Also showed how Jackson can't play traditional power forward role at NBA level, lacks the size and length. Small ball lineup, sure, but not to start games. If we take him, I envision JB playing majority of his time as two guard, the 3 in small ball lineup, and Jackson the 3 and the 4 in the small ball lineup. They can play these roles off the bench initially until they mature, at which time they will start. IT gets Max extension. Of course if we sign Hayward this may need re-thinking. I'm skeptical that we will, though. If we draft Jackson, signing Griffin makes better sense position wise.
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http://fox4kc.com/2017/03/19/court-docs-josh-jackson-threatened-to-beat-womens-player/
http://www.foxsports.com/kansas-city/story/some-kansas-jayhawks-fans-struggling-to-reconcile-off-court-issues-with-on-court-success-032117
" He would beat her ass"...wow, perfect person not for the Celtics roster. Do we really believe that DA and BS didn't want Cousins but somehow they will want Josh Jackson on this team? I highly doubt it.
Call me skeptical he gets picked top 3 unless its by a team that makes risky choices of players who have shown off the court issues. I doubt the Kings would make the choice, 76ers could as he would become best buddies with Okafor, Lakers doubtful(LA would be fire for this player).
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If you want to take as fact something a potential litigant alleges in an affidavit, knock yourself out and good luck in making sense in this litigious world of ours.
I prefer to let the Celtics do a thorough due diligence to separate fact from fiction. If they determine he has violent tendencies, they will look to draft someone else. But if not, they will give serious consider to drafting him.
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Biggest issue with Josh Jackson is his 57% FT percentage. I think that can change and be improved (see Marcus Smart) but he has to be a 70% shooter to be a great NBA player.
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http://fox4kc.com/2017/03/19/court-docs-josh-jackson-threatened-to-beat-womens-player/
http://www.foxsports.com/kansas-city/story/some-kansas-jayhawks-fans-struggling-to-reconcile-off-court-issues-with-on-court-success-032117
" He would beat her ass"...wow, perfect person not for the Celtics roster. Do we really believe that DA and BS didn't want Cousins but somehow they will want Josh Jackson on this team? I highly doubt it.
Call me skeptical he gets picked top 3 unless its by a team that makes risky choices of players who have shown off the court issues. I doubt the Kings would make the choice, 76ers could as he would become best buddies with Okafor, Lakers doubtful(LA would be fire for this player).
He does have to watch his "temper"
saw a few display of temper tantrums last night on court.... lucky he didn't get a technical
basically on one play , Bell blocks his shot and he was shouting goaltending.... on another play he tries to block Bells shot and gets called for the foul... starts yelling at the refs, "this is unfair" or something along those lines
I know it is a crucial game...but at the NBA level its going to be like that all the time...
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Biggest issue with Josh Jackson is his 57% FT percentage. I think that can change and be improved (see Marcus Smart) but he has to be a 70% shooter to be a great NBA player.
Smart was a career 75% free throw shooter in college.
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Biggest issue with Josh Jackson is his 57% FT percentage. I think that can change and be improved (see Marcus Smart) but he has to be a 70% shooter to be a great NBA player.
Smart was a career 75% free throw shooter in college.
Fultz and Ball were below 70% too, I guess there's no good players.
Fultz is escaping scrutiny because he hasn't played in a month. It's awfully easy to spend time finding things wrong with these guys, and often more useful to focus on what they can do.
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If you want to take as fact something a potential litigant alleges in an affidavit, knock yourself out and good luck in making sense in this litigious world of ours.
I prefer to let the Celtics do a thorough due diligence to separate fact from fiction. If they determine he has violent tendencies, they will look to draft someone else. But if not, they will give serious consider to drafting him.
https://www.google.com/amp/nba.nbcsports.com/2017/03/08/josh-jackson-potential-top-three-nba-draft-pick-suspended-by-kansas-after-hit-and-run/amp/
So, when his college suspended him for hit and run and leaving scene afterwards, that was imaginary as well. There is a pattern starting to occur here. His team suspended him for his actions. We will see what comes out in this other case but even Jackson admits he did stuff before. Someone who leaves scene after doing damage to another's property is a criminal act and is a light onto the character of that person.
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If you want to take as fact something a potential litigant alleges in an affidavit, knock yourself out and good luck in making sense in this litigious world of ours.
I prefer to let the Celtics do a thorough due diligence to separate fact from fiction. If they determine he has violent tendencies, they will look to draft someone else. But if not, they will give serious consider to drafting him.
https://www.google.com/amp/nba.nbcsports.com/2017/03/08/josh-jackson-potential-top-three-nba-draft-pick-suspended-by-kansas-after-hit-and-run/amp/
So, when his college suspended him for hit and run and leaving scene afterwards, that was imaginary as well. There is a pattern starting to occur here. His team suspended him for his actions. We will see what comes out in this other case but even Jackson admits he did stuff before. Someone who leaves scene after doing damage to another's property is a criminal act and is a light onto the character of that person.
Not saying it's right, but it's could also be an act of a scared kid.
I knew a kid, two years ahead of me. Massive jerk. I saw him lift a kid up and slam him into the table at the library, and then spit in the teachers face. About 7 or 8 years later he cam into the store I was assistant managing and he was the nicest guy. He partnered up with his dad builing houses, and Would go to Haiti and help build homes for people in need. And then would take a hand full of guys and put them up and have them work for him over the summer so they could send money home to their families.
That saying, kids can do some dumb crap, hopefully he's learned from this. Only one on one meetings with the coaching staff can really get a hold of his character and see if he's learned and regretted what he's done.
Plus we drafted Smart and he shoved a guy in the Stands. He's got a bit of punk in him, but he's our punk and I'm glad for it....
Until he takes an off balanced 3......
But then he makes up for it by ripping the ball our of some ones hands. :)
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I'd be thrilled with Jackson as the pick, but he projects as a small forward.
Question... don't you think that would cause a log jam at the 3?
Crowder, Brown, Jackson, where would his minutes come from? Both Brown and Jackson need to develop.
While Fultz, IMO is a star waiting to happen. He really has no glaring weakness. He's gonna be a scorer at the 1 or the 2, something we desperately need. A player that can find his offense when he wants. He has good size and length too.
Unfortunately, Ball comes attached with a 200 pound wart on his back, called Lavar. If Lavar doesn't get his way, and his son doesn't go to his favorite team, the Lakers, this idiot will constantly be second guessing the organization in the media. The dude is trouble.
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I'd be thrilled with Jackson as the pick, but he projects as a small forward.
Question... don't you think that would cause a log jam at the 3?
Crowder, Brown, Jackson, where would his minutes come from? Both Brown and Jackson need to develop.
While Fultz, IMO is a star waiting to happen. He really has no glaring weakness. He's gonna be a scorer at the 1 or the 2, something we desperately need. A player that can find his offense when he wants. He has good size and length too.
Unfortunately, Ball comes attached with a 200 pound wart on his back, called Lavar. If Lavar doesn't get his way, and his son doesn't go to his favorite team, the Lakers, this idiot will constantly be second guessing the organization in the media. The dude is trouble.
Well once these guys develop physically Brown and Jackson would be able to play the 2-4, Crowder can play the 3 and the 4. So the minutes would come with them playing next to each other.
Don't shortchange Lavar, he's probably closer to 300 than he is to 200.
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I'd be thrilled with Jackson as the pick, but he projects as a small forward.
Question... don't you think that would cause a log jam at the 3?
Crowder, Brown, Jackson, where would his minutes come from? Both Brown and Jackson need to develop.
While Fultz, IMO is a star waiting to happen. He really has no glaring weakness. He's gonna be a scorer at the 1 or the 2, something we desperately need. A player that can find his offense when he wants. He has good size and length too.
Unfortunately, Ball comes attached with a 200 pound wart on his back, called Lavar. If Lavar doesn't get his way, and his son doesn't go to his favorite team, the Lakers, this idiot will constantly be second guessing the organization in the media. The dude is trouble.
The minutes will be a squeeze, no doubt about it.
Jacksons quickness and ability as a ball-handler and passer combined with his size should allow him to be effective as a 2 and 3 and even a 4 in really small stretches. Brown should also be able to play the 4 more next year, so they could play a lot together.
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I'd be thrilled with Jackson as the pick, but he projects as a small forward.
Question... don't you think that would cause a log jam at the 3?
Crowder, Brown, Jackson, where would his minutes come from? Both Brown and Jackson need to develop.
While Fultz, IMO is a star waiting to happen. He really has no glaring weakness. He's gonna be a scorer at the 1 or the 2, something we desperately need. A player that can find his offense when he wants. He has good size and length too.
Unfortunately, Ball comes attached with a 200 pound wart on his back, called Lavar. If Lavar doesn't get his way, and his son doesn't go to his favorite team, the Lakers, this idiot will constantly be second guessing the organization in the media. The dude is trouble.
The minutes will be a squeeze, no doubt about it.
Jacksons quickness and ability as a ball-handler and passer combined with his size should allow him to be effective as a 2 and 3 and even a 4 in really small stretches. Brown should also be able to play the 4 more next year, so they could play a lot together.
I think minutes shouldn't be too much of a problem next year. Gerald and Young combined for 700 minutes at the wing, so those minutes are there for the taking. And Jerebko should have about 1200 by the time the season is done -- those will largely be available for Crowder, Brown, and Jackson.
Minutes will get tight at that position if Hayward is signed, however. But you worry about those luxuries when you have to, not in advance.
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I'd be thrilled with Jackson as the pick, but he projects as a small forward.
Question... don't you think that would cause a log jam at the 3
Unfortunately, Ball comes attached with a 325 pound wart on his back, called Lavar.
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Josh Jackson: Why NBA Teams Are Tanking This Year by BBALLBREAKDOWN
Needs to improve - shot and handle...but has potential to be a really good player.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8xVQiKtLCio
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Josh Jackson: Why NBA Teams Are Tanking This Year by BBALLBREAKDOWN
Needs to improve - shot and handle...but has potential to be a really good player.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8xVQiKtLCio
TP, that's a really good scouting report.
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Currently NBADraft.net has Jackons #1 and going to the Celtics. I think this is the first big draft site that I've seen that doesn't have Fultz going #1.
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Currently NBADraft.net has Jackons #1 and going to the Celtics. I think this is the first big draft site that I've seen that doesn't have Fultz going #1.
nbadraft.net is a scam. Possible the worst mockdraft site around. It seems like they rank the prospects based off of name mentions from a google search.
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Currently NBADraft.net has Jackons #1 and going to the Celtics. I think this is the first big draft site that I've seen that doesn't have Fultz going #1.
nbadraft.net is a scam. Possible the worst mockdraft site around. It seems like they rank the prospects based off of name mentions from a google search.
To your point, they've also got De'Aaron Fox #4, ahead of Jason Tatum. Only place I've seen that, too.
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Currently NBADraft.net has Jackons #1 and going to the Celtics. I think this is the first big draft site that I've seen that doesn't have Fultz going #1.
nbadraft.net is a scam. Possible the worst mockdraft site around. It seems like they rank the prospects based off of name mentions from a google search.
Josh Jackson is rated a "100" prospect on there and Fultz is a "99", so it's not even for fit purposes. That being said, NBAdraft.net is the worst site on the internet for this stuff.
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Thought I would throw up Jackson's Draft Express extended scouting report videos for the good folks of Cs blog here.
Strengths - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jDAwfVf8jfQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jDAwfVf8jfQ)
Weaknesses - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YCqOIlHx9g (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YCqOIlHx9g)
He has easily worked his way into the 2nd best player in this draft in my book. His off the ball movement and activity is just so refreshing to see from a player with his athletic gifts.
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Thought I would throw up Jackson's Draft Express extended scouting report videos for the good folks of Cs blog here.
Strengths - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jDAwfVf8jfQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jDAwfVf8jfQ)
Weaknesses - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YCqOIlHx9g (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YCqOIlHx9g)
He has easily worked his way into the 2nd best player in this draft in my book. His off the ball movement and activity is just so refreshing to see from a player with his athletic gifts.
Yeah, I've got him ahead of Ball, too. There's just something about Ball that makes me nervous his game won't translate when he's playing against bigger, stronger, faster defenses. I could be totally wrong, but I worry.
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Jackson could be a nice player.
The hitch in his jumpshot is awful though and he is often way out of control going to the rim.
Defensive awareness and ability are probably the best in this draft.
Fultz is just a way better player on the offensive end and it puts him on his own in the franchise potential category for me.
Jackson is also more than a year older than most of these guys.
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I 0% think DA would draft JJ. JJ is the type of player DA likes, but I'd say more than that, DA has shown a preference for high-character individuals. With the crime and controversy that surfaced surrounding JJ, I don't think we take him.
You might think of Smart as an exception, but I think the scenario was vastly different.
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I 0% think DA would draft JJ. JJ is the type of player DA likes, but I'd say more than that, DA has shown a preference for high-character individuals. With the crime and controversy that surfaced surrounding JJ, I don't think we take him.
You might think of Smart as an exception, but I think the scenario was vastly different.
Oh please. Crime and controversy? Not saying he's an angel, but you're not drafting him because he kicked a car and left scene of hitting a parked car? Cmon.
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double post
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I 0% think DA would draft JJ. JJ is the type of player DA likes, but I'd say more than that, DA has shown a preference for high-character individuals. With the crime and controversy that surfaced surrounding JJ, I don't think we take him.
You might think of Smart as an exception, but I think the scenario was vastly different.
Oh please. Crime and controversy? Not saying he's an angel, but you're not drafting him because he kicked a car and left scene of hitting a parked car? Cmon.
"TULSA, Okla. (AP) — One day before top-seeded Kansas opens NCAA Tournament play, court officials released an affidavit that said freshman star Josh Jackson threatened to “beat” a women’s basketball player during a confrontation in December."
http://www.denverpost.com/2017/03/16/josh-jackson-kansas-threatened-woman/
Ainge has a history of liking high character individuals – why we didn't take DMC for example. See here for more:
http://www.celticsblog.com/2015/7/27/9053791/celtics-building-a-cast-of-high-character-guys
When the top 4-5 players are all so good, I think every "little" bit matters, even the intangibles.
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I 0% think DA would draft JJ. JJ is the type of player DA likes, but I'd say more than that, DA has shown a preference for high-character individuals. With the crime and controversy that surfaced surrounding JJ, I don't think we take him.
You might think of Smart as an exception, but I think the scenario was vastly different.
Oh please. Crime and controversy? Not saying he's an angel, but you're not drafting him because he kicked a car and left scene of hitting a parked car? Cmon.
"TULSA, Okla. (AP) — One day before top-seeded Kansas opens NCAA Tournament play, court officials released an affidavit that said freshman star Josh Jackson threatened to “beat” a women’s basketball player during a confrontation in December."
http://www.denverpost.com/2017/03/16/josh-jackson-kansas-threatened-woman/
Ainge has a history of liking high character individuals – why we didn't take DMC for example. See here for more:
http://www.celticsblog.com/2015/7/27/9053791/celtics-building-a-cast-of-high-character-guys
When the top 4-5 players are all so good, I think every "little" bit matters, even the intangibles.
An affidavit is meaningless. You act like it was a judgment.
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Hey footey, I am in no way trying to be belligerent with you – I value your opinion, and this is just what I think.
But an affidavit is literally a sworn statement before the criminal justice system, which actually holds weight in court. These statements are consistent with his misdemeanor in destruction of property / vandalism – he was actually charged for the vandalism which came after he made these threats to that same girl whose property he vandalized.
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Hey footey, I am in no way trying to be belligerent with you – I value your opinion, and this is just what I think.
But an affidavit is literally a sworn statement before the criminal justice system, which actually holds weight in court. These statements are consistent with his misdemeanor in destruction of property / vandalism – he was actually charged for the vandalism which came after he made these threats to that same girl whose property he vandalized.
affidavit is a declaration under oath that is true, but as you know very well oath testimony is not always true. Think about it for a minute, almost every court trial involves witnesses that testify under oath to different versions on the same subject. So take the affidavit for what it is worth, it is not a legal finding by a judge or jury.
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So will character issues knock josh Jackson out of the top 3 picks or is he just too talented?
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Question for those of you familiar with his game. How much would Josh Jackson help our rebounding woes? Is the too skinny to maintain position, or will his wiry strength and elite athleticism help him grab tons of rebounds?
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Honestly there's just two guys we should be considering atm, Fultz and Tatum. Period.
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Question for those of you familiar with his game. How much would Josh Jackson help our rebounding woes? Is the too skinny to maintain position, or will his wiry strength and elite athleticism help him grab tons of rebounds?
Thon Maker, despite lacking muscles is helping the Bucks in boards and defense somehow. Jackson maybe shorter, but he's more complete and have the same intensity Maker have.
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Jackson maybe shorter, but he's more complete and have the same intensity Maker have.
I think he has more intensity in all honesty.
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Question for those of you familiar with his game. How much would Josh Jackson help our rebounding woes? Is the too skinny to maintain position, or will his wiry strength and elite athleticism help him grab tons of rebounds?
From a physical standpoint, I think he's kind of like Harrison Barnes with a better motor, in that everyone was surprised when Barnes was guarding Zach Randolph in the playoffs a few years ago because he's so thin, but he's strong (wiry, like you said). I get that same impression watching Josh Jackson. Their offensive games are very different, but I do see physical similarities.
And Jackson was a better rebounder in college than Barnes was - 7.4 rpg compared to 5.8 and 5.2 in Barnes' 2 years at UNC.
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Honestly there's just two guys we should be considering atm, Fultz and Tatum. Period.
Your daft Jackson is the best player. Period. Ainge Edited. Profanity and masked profanity are against forum rules and may result in discipline.s this up and we're done. We don't need another dam pg or Tatum who is small and will be a project. Jackson is nba ready!
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Honestly there's just two guys we should be considering atm, Fultz and Tatum. Period.
Your daft Jackson is the best player. Period. Ainge ****s this up and we're done. We don't need another dam pg or Tatum who is small and will be a project. Jackson is nba ready!
Tatum is 6'8" with a 6'11 wingspan and has the most polished iso scoring game in the draft.
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I am not sold on either. I see a lot of Evan Turner in both. Ball scares me too.
I am OK if we take Suomalainen Isomies Lauri Markkanen if we can't get Fultz.
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Honestly there's just two guys we should be considering atm, Fultz and Tatum. Period.
Your daft Jackson is the best player. Period. Ainge ****s this up and we're done. We don't need another dam pg or Tatum who is small and will be a project. Jackson is nba ready!
and yet tatum and jackson are listed at the same height.
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Honestly there's just two guys we should be considering atm, Fultz and Tatum. Period.
Your daft Jackson is the best player. Period. Ainge ****s this up and we're done. We don't need another dam pg or Tatum who is small and will be a project. Jackson is nba ready!
and yet tatum and jackson are listed at the same height.
And Jackson is a 56% FT shooter. I like the athleticism and general court movement/presence but he has a funky shot. I do not see Jackson as any kind of a slam dunk. He is as much of a crap shoot as nearly every other draft pick every year. You could take Tatum, Jackson, Ball and a few others and pull their names out of a hat and have an equal chance of determining their future NBA career value as trying to draw conclusions from one year of college play.
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Honestly there's just two guys we should be considering atm, Fultz and Tatum. Period.
Your daft Jackson is the best player. Period. Ainge ****s this up and we're done. We don't need another dam pg or Tatum who is small and will be a project. Jackson is nba ready!
Tatum is longer, has a bigger frame and weighs more than Jackson but he is small? how exactly is Tatum more of a project than Jackson?
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The big problem with jackson is his terrible shooting, whether its from the field or free throw.
Do we really need another layup shooting athlete? We have brown, smart, and it with the same layup style. Can we please get some outside shooting to space the floor ?
I'm with the guy saying fultz or Tatum. its not even drafting for need, I see Both fultz and Tatum seem to have advanced shooting ability from anywhere, tatums 3 is a bit more unknown but his stroke looks nice. Tatum has great size and and all around game seems better than jackson
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The big problem with jackson is his terrible shooting, whether its from the field or free throw.
Do we really need another layup shooting athlete? We have brown, smart, and it with the same layup style. Can we please get some outside shooting to space the floor ?
I'm with the guy saying fultz or Tatum. its not even drafting for need, I see Both fultz and Tatum seem to have advanced shooting ability from anywhere, tatums 3 is a bit more unknown but his stroke looks nice. Tatum has great size and and all around game seems better than jackson
Hindsight is 20/20. But one thing is sure. Intagibles translate well in the league, especially with a guy with physical gifts and NBA ready game. This is like Smart and Exum all over again. Exum can shoot much better than Smart, but can't find his groove since turning pro so far. I don't mind taking Fultz or Tatum since they are my second choices but their mindsets reminds me of Wiggins and Exum.
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The big problem with jackson is his terrible shooting, whether its from the field or free throw.
Do we really need another layup shooting athlete? We have brown, smart, and it with the same layup style. Can we please get some outside shooting to space the floor ?
I'm with the guy saying fultz or Tatum. its not even drafting for need, I see Both fultz and Tatum seem to have advanced shooting ability from anywhere, tatums 3 is a bit more unknown but his stroke looks nice. Tatum has great size and and all around game seems better than jackson
iM not sure what you mean by layup stle but I think shot creation is a big need on this team and is highly valued in this league thus I like Tatum and Fultz more than most.
I alo think the team could use a greater variety of attacking teams. You have alot of slashers but not many ball handlers and shot creators. I think thats really needed on this team.
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Agreed 100%. We need shot creators and more variety.
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The big problem with jackson is his terrible shooting, whether its from the field or free throw.
Do we really need another layup shooting athlete? We have brown, smart, and it with the same layup style. Can we please get some outside shooting to space the floor ?
I'm with the guy saying fultz or Tatum. its not even drafting for need, I see Both fultz and Tatum seem to have advanced shooting ability from anywhere, tatums 3 is a bit more unknown but his stroke looks nice. Tatum has great size and and all around game seems better than jackson
I am not quite sure what you mean by terrible shooting. Early on in the season, sure. His 3 point shooting was bad.
But, over the final 17 games he played he shot 48% from 3 point range. He took 52 three pointers and made 25 of them.
Terrible shooting that is not.
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This guy is a liability at the free throw line and can't shoot. Pass
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This guy is a liability at the free throw line and can't shoot. Pass
Why do you think he cannot improve his free throws? That does happen.
Also, fultz is a poor free throw shooter as well. Should the Celtics pass on him as well?
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This guy is a liability at the free throw line and can't shoot. Pass
Why do you think he cannot improve his free throws? That does happen.
Also, fultz is a poor free throw shooter as well. Should the Celtics pass on him as well?
have you seen Josh's form? He is old too kind of late to fix things
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This guy is a liability at the free throw line and can't shoot. Pass
Why do you think he cannot improve his free throws? That does happen.
Also, fultz is a poor free throw shooter as well. Should the Celtics pass on him as well?
have you seen Josh's form? He is old too kind of late to fix things
Old? HAHA, sorry but that is just a narrative of people clutching at straws looking for weaknesses to write about Jackson. No one is too old to learn, grow or change anything, with the right attitude. Jackson is 20 and will not turn 21 till next year, to put that in perspective Jimmy Butler was 21 turning 22 when he was drafted and was thought to be only a defensive stopper when drafted. Steph Curry was 21 also and was thought to only be a small, weak jump shooting two guard. Draymond Green was 22, fat, undersized, couldn't shoot period and is now 27 and still adding to his game.
IMO Fultz has the lowest floor but Jackson has the highest ceiling. He could easily guard 1-4 at the NBA level and could even be a less long version of Draymond Green with better athleticism, capable of being a Kawhi type of two way talent given time.
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The big problem with jackson is his terrible shooting, whether its from the field or free throw.
Do we really need another layup shooting athlete? We have brown, smart, and it with the same layup style. Can we please get some outside shooting to space the floor ?
I'm with the guy saying fultz or Tatum. its not even drafting for need, I see Both fultz and Tatum seem to have advanced shooting ability from anywhere, tatums 3 is a bit more unknown but his stroke looks nice. Tatum has great size and and all around game seems better than jackson
I am not quite sure what you mean by terrible shooting. Early on in the season, sure. His 3 point shooting was bad.
But, over the final 17 games he played he shot 48% from 3 point range. He took 52 three pointers and made 25 of them.
Terrible shooting that is not.
justice Winlsow shot 42% from deep and 64% from the line. In the NBA those numbers have become 26 from 3 and 66 from the line.
Free throws tend to lie less than three pointers.
Jackson shot 57% from the line and 38% from deep. His shot is also more broken than Winslows was.
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Glad we wont get jackson
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The big problem with jackson is his terrible shooting, whether its from the field or free throw.
Do we really need another layup shooting athlete? We have brown, smart, and it with the same layup style. Can we please get some outside shooting to space the floor ?
I'm with the guy saying fultz or Tatum. its not even drafting for need, I see Both fultz and Tatum seem to have advanced shooting ability from anywhere, tatums 3 is a bit more unknown but his stroke looks nice. Tatum has great size and and all around game seems better than jackson
I am not quite sure what you mean by terrible shooting. Early on in the season, sure. His 3 point shooting was bad.
But, over the final 17 games he played he shot 48% from 3 point range. He took 52 three pointers and made 25 of them.
Terrible shooting that is not.
justice Winlsow shot 42% from deep and 64% from the line. In the NBA those numbers have become 26 from 3 and 66 from the line.
Free throws tend to lie less than three pointers.
Jackson shot 57% from the line and 38% from deep. His shot is also more broken than Winslows was.
and fultz shot 65% FT while long shot 67% FT. after all is said and done, we will see how all the rookies do. i am patient. ;D
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Jackson trying to shoot the 3 without dipping the ball... omg
Maybe he should go back to dipping the ball... not a smooth stroke... choppy
What's the rush Josh? He really needs a good shooting coach to fine tune his mechanics.
(May 31st)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ifyRHDdhjqg
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Josh Jackson is gonna be soooooo good.
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Jackson trying to shoot the 3 without dipping the ball... omg
Maybe he should go back to dipping the ball... not a smooth stroke... choppy
What's the rush Josh? He really needs a good shooting coach to fine tune his mechanics.
(May 31st)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ifyRHDdhjqg
That was painful to watch
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Josh Jackson is gonna be soooooo good.
Hopefully for someone else.
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Josh Jackson is gonna be soooooo good.
Hopefully for someone else.
yeah, Fultz should be even better.
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Josh Jackson is gonna be soooooo good.
Hopefully for someone else.
yeah, Fultz should be even better.
Hopefully :). I mean, even as I throw out a bunch of trade ideas and the like I can't see him taking anyone else, let alone trading the pick, after all that's come out about his interest in the guy. I just wish that I knew more about that knee, but don't we all? Fultz also better not be a James Harden type of player, either, imo, but that's just because I can't stand "The Beard" ::), lol ;D.
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The same Phoenix guy who broke Nash to L.A. is saying Jackson has a promise from either the Lakers or Philly, and that it's likely the Lakers because Philly hasn't worked him out yet.
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Never got the hype with this kid. can't dribble, can't shoot, doesn't create for others, i'll pass. And I don't buy that hes gonna be some terror on the defensive end either. He's a poverty version of wiggins basically imo.
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Never got the hype with this kid. can't dribble, can't shoot, i'll pass. And I don't buy that hes gonna be some terror on the defensive end either. He's a poverty version of wiggins basically imo.
The other way around sir. I agree shooting needs work
But Wiggins motor cant compare to Jacksons
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Never got the hype with this kid. can't dribble, can't shoot, i'll pass. And I don't buy that hes gonna be some terror on the defensive end either. He's a poverty version of wiggins basically imo.
The other way around sir. I agree shooting needs work
But Wiggins motor cant compare to Jacksons
Again I never really saw this "motor" ppl have been clamoring about. And hustle only gets you so far in the league, just look at Smarts game at the moment. I don't want to come across pompous though, the kid could turn out to be a great player, you just never know, but if I was a GM picking in the top 3/5 I'd be leery of him.
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The same Phoenix guy who broke Nash to L.A. is saying Jackson has a promise from either the Lakers or Philly, and that it's likely the Lakers because Philly hasn't worked him out yet.
So either DA is taking Ball(cringe) or Ball is dropping to the Suns or Further.....Lavar is going to happy. LOL
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Never got the hype with this kid. can't dribble, can't shoot, i'll pass. And I don't buy that hes gonna be some terror on the defensive end either. He's a poverty version of wiggins basically imo.
The other way around sir. I agree shooting needs work
But Wiggins motor cant compare to Jacksons
Again I never really saw this "motor" ppl have been clamoring about. And hustle only gets you so far in the league, just look at Smarts game at the moment. I don't want to come across pompous though, the kid could turn out to be a great player, you just never know, but if I was a GM picking in the top 3/5 I'd be leery of him.
I watched about 10 of his games. Great motor. Highest bbiq I've seen in a college freshman ever.
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speculation is that he got a promise from LA.
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Never got the hype with this kid. can't dribble, can't shoot, doesn't create for others, i'll pass. And I don't buy that hes gonna be some terror on the defensive end either. He's a poverty version of wiggins basically imo.
Not sure where you get the "can't dribble", his handle looked excellent for a sf to me. Great passer, defender, and shot well from 3. Mid range game needs work, but overall he's more advanced offensively than JB was.
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Never got the hype with this kid. can't dribble, can't shoot, doesn't create for others, i'll pass. And I don't buy that hes gonna be some terror on the defensive end either. He's a poverty version of wiggins basically imo.
can't dribble and can't shoot. Sounds like Dannys type of guy lol
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Never got the hype with this kid. can't dribble, can't shoot, doesn't create for others, i'll pass. And I don't buy that hes gonna be some terror on the defensive end either. He's a poverty version of wiggins basically imo.
can't dribble and can't shoot. Sounds like Dannys type of guy lol
Doesnt create for others is BS. Hes a very good passer. Hes also a much better defender than Wiggins. Like he is an elite defender. Wiggins sucks.
If you want to make a mean comp, I think Id go with Justice Winslow or MKG.
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Never got the hype with this kid. can't dribble, can't shoot, doesn't create for others, i'll pass. And I don't buy that hes gonna be some terror on the defensive end either. He's a poverty version of wiggins basically imo.
can't dribble and can't shoot. Sounds like Dannys type of guy lol
Doesnt create for others is BS. Hes a very good passer. Hes also a much better defender than Wiggins. Like he is an elite defender. Wiggins sucks.
If you want to make a mean comp, I think Id go with Justice Winslow or MKG.
Agree. Jackson a GREAT passer. Very unselfish. Stevens will love him.
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They're saying Jackson's mom is a problem. Lol that's what stephen a smith said. What's with the basketball parents being loud now
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Never got the hype with this kid. can't dribble, can't shoot, doesn't create for others, i'll pass. And I don't buy that hes gonna be some terror on the defensive end either. He's a poverty version of wiggins basically imo.
can't dribble and can't shoot. Sounds like Dannys type of guy lol
This is Jacksons response to you...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EywJ6BjWMuQ