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Title: Monday 4/3: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on November 15, 2016, 09:25:40 PM
I started a thread on this during March Madness last year. Due to all our picks last year, it was a pretty wide net for players in our selection wheelhouse.

This year, I figured we could do top 20 players on Draftexpress and nbadraft.net who are playing on any particular night as things change so much in players rankings.

I missed the first game tonight  with Kentucky in the Chamipons Classic at MSG.

The second game is Duke vs Kansas, on now. ESPN

Players to watch? (I don't know who's injured (Giles?):

Josh Jackson. (UK)
Harry Giles. Duke out
Jayson Tatum Duke out
Grayson Allen Duke
Marques Bolden Duke out
Frank Jackson. Duke

I will try to update this thread as often as I can during the season, but TPs to anyone who updates it.

Gonna watch the game now.

Edit: I know that it's early for this but  I like college hoops,  and I know a lot of folks on here follow the draft stuff early on.




Title: Re: Top 20 draft prospects playing on TV tonight (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: alldaboston on November 15, 2016, 10:13:53 PM
I really like Grayson Allen. Can shoot, is a pretty solid passer from what I've seen, underrated athletically.

Josh Jackson hasn't impressed me today. Just got a Technical foul too.
Title: Re: Top 20 draft prospects playing on TV tonight (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on November 15, 2016, 10:17:55 PM
I really like Grayson Allen. Can shoot, is a pretty solid passer from what I've seen, underrated athletically.

Josh Jackson hasn't impressed me today. Just got a Technical foul too.

Agree about Allen. Can really attack close outs too.

Jackson is a fiery guy, very intense. One of his best traits.
Title: Re: Top 20 draft prospects playing on TV tonight (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: Chief Macho on November 15, 2016, 10:19:51 PM
Call me a homer, but I'd take Lauri Markkanen right now over all our big man for the next five years.  He's like a KO that can actually play.
Title: Re: Top 20 draft prospects playing on TV tonight (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: alldaboston on November 15, 2016, 10:25:12 PM
Call me a homer, but I'd take Lauri Markkanen right now over all our big man for the next five years.  He's like a KO that can actually play.

Curious: what does he do that KO doesn't do? Basically, what's he doing that shows you he "can play" but KO can't?
Title: Re: Top 20 draft prospects playing on TV tonight (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on November 15, 2016, 10:54:36 PM
Malik monk looked pretty good earlier for Kentucky with 23 and 6 rb.

Good handle, looks more a scorer than pure shooter. Good court awareness too.
Title: Re: Top 20 draft prospects playing on TV tonight (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: green_bballers13 on November 15, 2016, 11:56:24 PM
I really like Grayson Allen. Can shoot, is a pretty solid passer from what I've seen, underrated athletically.

Josh Jackson hasn't impressed me today. Just got a Technical foul too.

Agree about Allen. Can really attack close outs too.

Jackson is a fiery guy, very intense. One of his best traits.

I don't see "it" while watching Josh Jackson. Not sure I love his shot. He's being compared to Wiggins. Is he as good as Wiggins was at Kansas, esp on defense? Right now he's projected to be a top 5 pick.

I'm still hoping that Harry Giles drops to us, esp if he sits out the whole year. This lets him recover while studying the game under Coach K. Big time athlete with size. I think he's an Amare or even Blake Griffin type talent.

I'm also interested in a couple of the guards, such as Dennis Smith and Fultz. Either one or Giles and I think it's a big win for the Celtics.
Title: Re: Top 20 draft prospects playing on TV tonight (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on November 16, 2016, 12:45:00 AM
I really like Grayson Allen. Can shoot, is a pretty solid passer from what I've seen, underrated athletically.

Josh Jackson hasn't impressed me today. Just got a Technical foul too.

Agree about Allen. Can really attack close outs too.

Jackson is a fiery guy, very intense. One of his best traits.

I don't see "it" while watching Josh Jackson. Not sure I love his shot. He's being compared to Wiggins. Is he as good as Wiggins was at Kansas, esp on defense? Right now he's projected to be a top 5 pick.

I'm still hoping that Harry Giles drops to us, esp if he sits out the whole year. This lets him recover while studying the game under Coach K. Big time athlete with size. I think he's an Amare or even Blake Griffin type talent.

I'm also interested in a couple of the guards, such as Dennis Smith and Fultz. Either one or Giles and I think it's a big win for the Celtics.

I didn't see enough of Jackson tonight to see for myself what all the pundits see in him. I think he played 14 minutes before fouling out, but he showed flashes and seemed real aggressive.

I agree on Giles and think he can be the high risk/ high reward gamble that Embid was.

I am looking forward to seeing a lot of these other prospects play. Should be a fun season. Right now theyre all just comments on pundits paper and old film.

Title: Re: Top 20 draft prospects playing on TV tonight (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: Denis998 on November 16, 2016, 12:46:46 AM
Markelle Fultz highlights
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDaWXb3RA8g&t=0s
Title: Re: Top 20 draft prospects playing on TV tonight (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: alldaboston on November 16, 2016, 01:06:17 AM
Markelle Fultz highlights
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDaWXb3RA8g&t=0s

Is it just me, or was that the quietest 30 points ever? lol. maybe it's because it looked so easy for him. looked like he was barely trying and he was still getting good looks.
Title: Re: Top 20 draft prospects playing on TV tonight (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on November 16, 2016, 02:03:58 AM
Markelle Fultz highlights
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDaWXb3RA8g&t=0s

Is it just me, or was that the quietest 30 points ever? lol. maybe it's because it looked so easy for him. looked like he was barely trying and he was still getting good looks.

You guys will be able to see Fultz this Sunday night vs Northern Arizona at 8 p.m. On the PAC-12 Network.
Title: Re: Top 20 draft prospects playing on TV tonight (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: alldaboston on November 16, 2016, 02:10:40 AM
Markelle Fultz highlights
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDaWXb3RA8g&t=0s

Is it just me, or was that the quietest 30 points ever? lol. maybe it's because it looked so easy for him. looked like he was barely trying and he was still getting good looks.

You guys will be able to see Fultz this Sunday night vs Northern Arizona at 8 p.m. On the PAC-12 Network.

thanks. looking forward to it.
Title: Re: Top 20 draft prospects playing on TV tonight (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: alewilliam789 on November 16, 2016, 03:39:19 AM
I really like Grayson Allen. Can shoot, is a pretty solid passer from what I've seen, underrated athletically.

Josh Jackson hasn't impressed me today. Just got a Technical foul too.

Agree about Allen. Can really attack close outs too.

Jackson is a fiery guy, very intense. One of his best traits.

I don't see "it" while watching Josh Jackson. Not sure I love his shot. He's being compared to Wiggins. Is he as good as Wiggins was at Kansas, esp on defense? Right now he's projected to be a top 5 pick.

I'm still hoping that Harry Giles drops to us, esp if he sits out the whole year. This lets him recover while studying the game under Coach K. Big time athlete with size. I think he's an Amare or even Blake Griffin type talent.

I'm also interested in a couple of the guards, such as Dennis Smith and Fultz. Either one or Giles and I think it's a big win for the Celtics.

I didn't see enough of Jackson tonight to see for myself what all the pundits see in him. I think he played 14 minutes before fouling out, but he showed flashes and seemed real aggressive.

I agree on Giles and think he can be the high risk/ high reward gamble that Embid was.

I am looking forward to seeing a lot of these other prospects play. Should be a fun season. Right now theyre all just comments on pundits paper and old film.

Praying that we can get a player like Giles. Be a good off-season to our frontcourt to add Giles and then add some seasoned rooks in Ante Zizic and Yabusele. Probably still add a vet in FA or steal, but that would definitely bring our frontcourt an injection of youth and energy that we need.  All on cheap contracts and allow us to potentially bring in another valuable FA.
Title: Re: Top 20 draft prospects playing on TV tonight (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on November 16, 2016, 09:55:36 PM
I really like Grayson Allen. Can shoot, is a pretty solid passer from what I've seen, underrated athletically.

Josh Jackson hasn't impressed me today. Just got a Technical foul too.

Agree about Allen. Can really attack close outs too.

Jackson is a fiery guy, very intense. One of his best traits.

I don't see "it" while watching Josh Jackson. Not sure I love his shot. He's being compared to Wiggins. Is he as good as Wiggins was at Kansas, esp on defense? Right now he's projected to be a top 5 pick.

I'm still hoping that Harry Giles drops to us, esp if he sits out the whole year. This lets him recover while studying the game under Coach K. Big time athlete with size. I think he's an Amare or even Blake Griffin type talent.

I'm also interested in a couple of the guards, such as Dennis Smith and Fultz. Either one or Giles and I think it's a big win for the Celtics.

I didn't see enough of Jackson tonight to see for myself what all the pundits see in him. I think he played 14 minutes before fouling out, but he showed flashes and seemed real aggressive.

I agree on Giles and think he can be the high risk/ high reward gamble that Embid was.

I am looking forward to seeing a lot of these other prospects play. Should be a fun season. Right now theyre all just comments on pundits paper and old film.

Praying that we can get a player like Giles. Be a good off-season to our frontcourt to add Giles and then add some seasoned rooks in Ante Zizic and Yabusele. Probably still add a vet in FA or steal, but that would definitely bring our frontcourt an injection of youth and energy that we need.  All on cheap contracts and allow us to potentially bring in another valuable FA.

Me too on Giles.
A healthy Giles is a franchise player.
Title: Re: Top 20 draft prospects playing on TV tonight (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: The One on November 16, 2016, 10:04:03 PM
Malik monk looked pretty good earlier for Kentucky with 23 and 6 rb.

Good handle, looks more a scorer than pure shooter. Good court awareness too.

I was very impressed with him. And he was killing the three.

Pleasantly surprised.
Title: Re: Top 20 draft prospects playing on TV tonight (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on November 16, 2016, 10:12:21 PM
Malik monk looked pretty good earlier for Kentucky with 23 and 6 rb.

Good handle, looks more a scorer than pure shooter. Good court awareness too.

I was very impressed with him. And he was killing the three.

Pleasantly surprised.

Yah...7/11 from 3 pretty impressive.  Good physical tools too.
Title: Re: Top 20 draft prospects playing on TV tonight (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on November 16, 2016, 10:13:12 PM
UPDATE: Ivan Rabb and Jabari Bird are players to watch later tonight.

Cal plays UC-Irvine at 11 tonight on PAC-12 Network.

EDIT:Rabb out tonight with sore toe.
Title: Re: Top 20 draft prospects playing on TV tonight (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: chilidawg on November 16, 2016, 10:49:14 PM
Markelle Fultz highlights
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDaWXb3RA8g&t=0s

Looks impressive in the highlights, but keep in mind they lost at home to Yale.  Hard to tell if he played winning basketball.
Title: Re: Top 20 draft prospects playing on TV tonight (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on November 16, 2016, 11:11:00 PM
Markelle Fultz highlights
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDaWXb3RA8g&t=0s

Looks impressive in the highlights, but keep in mind they lost at home to Yale.  Hard to tell if he played winning basketball.

Very true.

This might be the second year in a row when the top pick does not make the NCAA tournament.

For Washington to lose to a team that was picked third in the Ivy League in preseason polls and missing its best player is pretty sad.
Title: Re: Top 20 draft prospects playing on TV tonight (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: KG Living Legend on November 17, 2016, 01:37:18 AM
Markelle Fultz highlights
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDaWXb3RA8g&t=0s

Looks impressive in the highlights, but keep in mind they lost at home to Yale.  Hard to tell if he played winning basketball.

Very true.

This might be the second year in a row when the top pick does not make the NCAA tournament.

For Washington to lose to a team that was picked third in the Ivy League in preseason polls and missing its best player is pretty sad.




 Fultz is very talented, but his left-hand dribble is absolutely garbage. He's definitely going to have to work on that.
Title: Re: Top 20 draft prospects playing on TV tonight (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on November 17, 2016, 07:09:26 PM
UPDATE:  Thursday, 11/17

Lonzo Ball's UCLA Bruins vs San Diego at 11 p.m on PAC-12 Network

Melo Trimble at 7 p.m. St Mary's (MD) vs MD on ESPN 3
Title: Re: Top 20 draft prospects playing on TV tonight (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: alldaboston on November 17, 2016, 07:14:56 PM
UPDATE:  Thursday, 11/17

Lonzo Ball's UCLA Bruins vs San Diego at 11 p.m on PAC-12 Network

Melo Trimble at 7 p.m. St Mary's (MD) vs MD on ESPN 3

San Diego State?

I remember SDSU's Malik Pope was very hyped up by Chad Ford a few years ago. it was weird, the guy didn't even play that well, but Ford had him in the lottery, and i think he was one of very few people to have him drafted that high. Wonder what he saw in Pope.
Title: Re: Top 20 draft prospects playing on TV tonight (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on November 17, 2016, 07:47:28 PM
UPDATE:  Thursday, 11/17

Lonzo Ball's UCLA Bruins vs San Diego at 11 p.m on PAC-12 Network

Melo Trimble at 7 p.m. St Mary's (MD) vs MD on ESPN 3

San Diego State?

I remember SDSU's Malik Pope was very hyped up by Chad Ford a few years ago. it was weird, the guy didn't even play that well, but Ford had him in the lottery, and i think he was one of very few people to have him drafted that high. Wonder what he saw in Pope.

 You're right, Pope was pretty hyped, but I think he got injured.

Tonight's game is USD, though, I think, not SDST.

I'm kind of looking forward to seeing Pope play when he's on TV.
Title: Re: Top 20 draft prospects playing on TV tonight (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: green_bballers13 on November 17, 2016, 09:44:29 PM
UPDATE:  Thursday, 11/17

Lonzo Ball's UCLA Bruins vs San Diego at 11 p.m on PAC-12 Network

Melo Trimble at 7 p.m. St Mary's (MD) vs MD on ESPN 3

Lonzo looks interesting. I read a Jason Kidd comparison, which prob. means he'll be nothing like him.

I think I'd rather draft a random guy off of St. Mary's before Melo Trimble. Too small/light. I don't like his shot. Decent handle.

I think Dennis Smith/Harry Giles/Ivan Rabb/Thomas Bryant would be good fits for us.
Title: Re: Top 20 draft prospects playing on TV tonight (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: A Future of Stevens on November 18, 2016, 01:02:23 PM
Highlights from Fultz most recent game. I see a lot of Harden in his game.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Hjkkrwoias (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Hjkkrwoias)

He has such an innate ability to score. Granted its against inferior competition right now, but man we would be so lucky to get this guy.
Title: Re: Top 20 draft prospects playing on TV tonight (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on November 18, 2016, 05:37:37 PM
UPDATE: Friday 11/18

6pm on CBSSN Dennis Smith and Omer Yertseven for NCSt

7pm on Acc/ESPN Jonathan Isaac and Dwayne Bacon for FSU

7pm on ACC/ESPN Tyler Lydon and Tyler Roberson for Syracuse

8pm on ESPN3 Josh Jackson, Devonte Graham and Mykhailiuk for Kansas

10 pm on PAC-12 Network Lauri Markkanen, Rawle Atkins and Alonzo Trier for 'Zona
Title: Re: Top 20 draft prospects playing on TV tonight (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: max215 on November 18, 2016, 05:44:24 PM
Highlights from Fultz most recent game. I see a lot of Harden in his game.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Hjkkrwoias (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Hjkkrwoias)

He has such an innate ability to score. Granted its against inferior competition right now, but man we would be so lucky to get this guy.

I think the "more athletic D'Angelo Russell" comp is spot on. Of course, Russell is also often compared to Harden.
Title: Re: Top 20 draft prospects playing on TV tonight (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: alewilliam789 on November 18, 2016, 06:05:56 PM
UPDATE:  Thursday, 11/17

Lonzo Ball's UCLA Bruins vs San Diego at 11 p.m on PAC-12 Network

Melo Trimble at 7 p.m. St Mary's (MD) vs MD on ESPN 3

Lonzo looks interesting. I read a Jason Kidd comparison, which prob. means he'll be nothing like him.

I think I'd rather draft a random guy off of St. Mary's before Melo Trimble. Too small/light. I don't like his shot. Decent handle.

I think Dennis Smith/Harry Giles/Ivan Rabb/Thomas Bryant would be good fits for us.

Thomas Bryant is not a good NBA player. He's not long enough, athletic enough, and his all around game is severely limited because of this. Don't see the allure with him.
Title: Re: Top 20 draft prospects playing on TV tonight (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: tazzmaniac on November 18, 2016, 07:59:30 PM
UPDATE:  Thursday, 11/17

Lonzo Ball's UCLA Bruins vs San Diego at 11 p.m on PAC-12 Network

Melo Trimble at 7 p.m. St Mary's (MD) vs MD on ESPN 3

Lonzo looks interesting. I read a Jason Kidd comparison, which prob. means he'll be nothing like him.

I think I'd rather draft a random guy off of St. Mary's before Melo Trimble. Too small/light. I don't like his shot. Decent handle.

I think Dennis Smith/Harry Giles/Ivan Rabb/Thomas Bryant would be good fits for us.

Thomas Bryant is not a good NBA player. He's not long enough, athletic enough, and his all around game is severely limited because of this. Don't see the allure with him.
DraftExpress has his wingspan at 7'5.5" and he seems reasonably athletic to me.  What do you mean by his all around game is severely limited? 
Title: Re: Top 20 draft prospects playing on TV tonight (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: alewilliam789 on November 18, 2016, 08:25:32 PM
UPDATE:  Thursday, 11/17

Lonzo Ball's UCLA Bruins vs San Diego at 11 p.m on PAC-12 Network

Melo Trimble at 7 p.m. St Mary's (MD) vs MD on ESPN 3

Lonzo looks interesting. I read a Jason Kidd comparison, which prob. means he'll be nothing like him.

I think I'd rather draft a random guy off of St. Mary's before Melo Trimble. Too small/light. I don't like his shot. Decent handle.

I think Dennis Smith/Harry Giles/Ivan Rabb/Thomas Bryant would be good fits for us.

Thomas Bryant is not a good NBA player. He's not long enough, athletic enough, and his all around game is severely limited because of this. Don't see the allure with him.
DraftExpress has his wingspan at 7'5.5" and he seems reasonably athletic to me.  What do you mean by his all around game is severely limited?
Wow maybe I underestimated his length. For me it's tight hips. Doesn't seem to have the quickest of feet, awkard running motion, and isn't especially explosive. He could potentially become a nice bench player, but not seeing starter quality talent there.
Title: Re: Top 20 draft prospects playing on TV tonight (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: The One on November 19, 2016, 09:18:31 AM
Markkanen had 22pts, 6 rebs, and 3 asts last night for Arizona.

Bridges had 24 pts, 11 rebs, and 6 asts last night for Mich. St.






Title: Re: Top 20 draft prospects playing on TV tonight (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: tazzmaniac on November 19, 2016, 09:41:29 AM
UPDATE:  Thursday, 11/17

Lonzo Ball's UCLA Bruins vs San Diego at 11 p.m on PAC-12 Network

Melo Trimble at 7 p.m. St Mary's (MD) vs MD on ESPN 3

Lonzo looks interesting. I read a Jason Kidd comparison, which prob. means he'll be nothing like him.

I think I'd rather draft a random guy off of St. Mary's before Melo Trimble. Too small/light. I don't like his shot. Decent handle.

I think Dennis Smith/Harry Giles/Ivan Rabb/Thomas Bryant would be good fits for us.

Thomas Bryant is not a good NBA player. He's not long enough, athletic enough, and his all around game is severely limited because of this. Don't see the allure with him.
DraftExpress has his wingspan at 7'5.5" and he seems reasonably athletic to me.  What do you mean by his all around game is severely limited?
Wow maybe I underestimated his length. For me it's tight hips. Doesn't seem to have the quickest of feet, awkard running motion, and isn't especially explosive. He could potentially become a nice bench player, but not seeing starter quality talent there.
Don't know why Bryant is even being mentioned.  Our only 1st should be top 5 and certainly be top 10.  DraftExpress currently has him going 22.  I don't see Bryant going higher than mid-first.  If he does, it will be a lot weaker draft than expected. 
Title: Re: Top 20 draft prospects playing on TV tonight (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: tazzmaniac on November 19, 2016, 10:16:10 AM
Markkanen had 22pts, 6 rebs, and 3 asts last night for Arizona.

Bridges had 24 pts, 11 rebs, and 6 asts last night for Mich. St.
If we do end up using the pick, I'd be good with taking Markkanen and letting Olynyk walk. 
Title: Re: Top 20 draft prospects playing on TV tonight (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on November 20, 2016, 02:50:27 PM
UPDATE: Sunday 11/20

5pm   FSU    Jonathan Isaac, Dwayne Bacon on ACC extra/ESPN

7pm  Mich St       Miles Bridges on BTN

7:30 Xavier         Edmond Sumner on ESPN2

8:00 Washington Markelle Fultz on PAC-12 Network

8:30 NC State     Dennis Smith on CBSSN

9:00 Kentucky    Malik Monk (very impressive this past week), De'Aaron Fox,
                         Isaiah Briscoe and Bam Abedayo on      ESPNU

10:00 UCLA        Lonzo Ball on PAC-12 Network
Title: Re: Top 20 draft prospects playing on TV tonight (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: Celtics4ever on November 20, 2016, 03:43:04 PM
Love this thread nice to scout, thanks.
Title: Re: Top 20 draft prospects playing on TV tonight (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on November 20, 2016, 04:06:42 PM
Love this thread nice to scout, thanks.

Thanks, glad you enjoy it. I know that some of the broadcasts aren't available to all people, but figured that I'd list them.

Didn't list the Duke game at 1 today vs URI, but Grayson Allen is hobbled and the three other projected high draft picks that they have are all injured and haven't played yet.

I will update as often as I can, but it's a long season, and I'm sure that I will miss some days, so if anybody wants to update  on any day, that'll be great.
Title: Re: Top 20 draft prospects playing on TV tonight (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on November 22, 2016, 10:24:35 AM
UPDATE: Tuesday 11/22

Lots of big teams playing today, especially because of the holiday tournaments in Hawaii and Alaska.

3:30 Texas    Jarrett Allen (currently highest rated pure center in the draft)   ESPNU

3:30 UCONN  Terry Larrier     ESPN2

7:00 Syracuse Tylers Lydon and Roberson    ACC Extra/ESPN

9:00 Indiana  OG Anunoby and Thomas Bryant    BTN

10:00 Kansas Josh Jackson and Mykhailiuk         ESPN2

10:30 UNC     Justin Jackson                             ESPN

11:00 Wahington   Markelle Fultz                        PAC-12 Network
Title: Re: Top 20 draft prospects playing on TV tonight (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on November 22, 2016, 05:19:40 PM
Wow, Colorado just kicked Texas' butt.

Jarrett Allen looked like a lost little boy. Not very stron, not agressive at all with going after rebounds or putting it up after he gets one (he kicks it out) and he's taller than eveeryone on the floor. A complete non-factor.

Adebayo (Ky),  Jeanne, Bryany (IND) and Yurtseven (NC ST) look way further along than this guy.

Title: Re: Top 20 draft prospects playing on TV tonight (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on November 22, 2016, 05:27:36 PM
Larrier not playing for UCONN today.

Roxbury's Jalen Adams is lighting it up though.
Title: Re: Top 20 draft prospects playing on TV tonight (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: saltlover on November 22, 2016, 05:38:12 PM
Wow, Colorado just kicked Texas' butt.

Jarrett Allen looked like a lost little boy. Not very stron, not agressive at all with going after rebounds or putting it up after he gets one (he kicks it out) and he's taller than eveeryone on the floor. A complete non-factor.

Adebayo (Ky),  Jeanne, Bryany (IND) and Yurtseven (NC ST) look way further along than this guy.

And Northwestern (!!!) beat Texas even worse yesterday.  Allen was held to 5 points on 6 shots and 5 boards, and was completely outplayed by Northwestern's 6-8 sophomore who had a double-double.
Title: Re: Top 20 draft prospects playing on TV tonight (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on November 22, 2016, 06:05:07 PM
Wow, Colorado just kicked Texas' butt.

Jarrett Allen looked like a lost little boy. Not very stron, not agressive at all with going after rebounds or putting it up after he gets one (he kicks it out) and he's taller than eveeryone on the floor. A complete non-factor.

Adebayo (Ky),  Jeanne, Bryany (IND) and Yurtseven (NC ST) look way further along than this guy.

And Northwestern (!!!) beat Texas even worse yesterday.  Allen was held to 5 points on 6 shots and 5 boards, and was completely outplayed by Northwestern's 6-8 sophomore who had a double-double.

Wow!

He could go from #13 on DExpress to off the board. He's not even in nbadraft.net's top 60.
Title: Re: Top 20 draft prospects playing on TV tonight (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on November 22, 2016, 11:03:13 PM
Thomas Bryant just capped a Hoosier comeback with a rugged offensive rebound and attempted put-back where he got fouled.  He calmly made two free throws to tie The Fort Wayne Mastodons ( how's that for a nickname)!

OT!

EDIT: Mastodons shock 3rd ranked Hoosiers!

 I love college basketball!
Title: Re: Top 20 draft prospects playing on TV tonight (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: tazzmaniac on November 24, 2016, 01:12:37 AM
Top prospects to watch on 11/24

12:00 on ESPN  Michigan   Myles Bridges

12:30 on ESPNU   Florida State    Johnathan Isaac

10:30 on FS1   Arizona   Lauri Markkanen

11:00 on ESPN2   UCLA   Lonzo Ball   
Title: Re: Top 20 draft prospects playing on TV tonight (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on November 25, 2016, 12:42:05 PM
Top prospects to watch on 11/24

12:00 on ESPN  Michigan   Myles Bridges

12:30 on ESPNU   Florida State    Johnathan Isaac

10:30 on FS1   Arizona   Lauri Markkanen

11:00 on ESPN2   UCLA   Lonzo Ball

TP...thanks
Title: Re: Top 20 draft prospects playing on TV tonight (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on November 25, 2016, 12:44:40 PM
UPDATE: Friday 11/25

7 p.m. (SECN) Kentucky: Malik Monk, De'Aaron Fox, Bam Abedayo

10 p.m. (FS1) Arizona    ; Lauri Markkanen, Alonzo Trier, Rawle Alkins
Title: Re: Top 20 draft prospects playing on TV tonight (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: tazzmaniac on November 26, 2016, 03:13:43 AM
UPDATE: Friday 11/25

7 p.m. (SECN) Kentucky: Malik Monk, De'Aaron Fox, Bam Abedayo

10 p.m. (FS1) Arizona    ; Lauri Markkanen, Alonzo Trier, Rawle Alkins
Trier is not playing and apparently Arizona hasn't said why or when he will play.  Some speculation it is an eligibility issue.  Didn't know Alkins was a prospect.  Hasn't stood out in the games I've watched. 

Kentucky is fun to watch.  Malik Monk is a highlight reel in the open court.  Bam looked much better.  Moves incredibly well for such a large man.  Love Fox.  He really knows how to run an offense but works well without the ball too. 

Lauri Markkanen continues to look like a good replacement for KO.  He doesn't play like a freshman. 

Also caught Kansas and UCLA games.  Josh Jackson is looking much better since Self told him to be more assertive.  Active on offense and defense with a few freshman lapses.  Excellent passer.  Lonzo Ball looked better than in the 1st game I saw of him.  Thought he was more of a chucker but he's really pass 1st.  Funky shot but he's making a high percentage. 


Title: Re: Top 20 draft prospects playing on TV tonight (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: tazzmaniac on November 26, 2016, 03:22:35 AM
Top prospect viewing on 11/26. 

Duke @ 12:00 on ACC network - Still no Giles, Taytum and Bolden.  Have to settle for Allen and Jackson. 

NC State @ 4:00 on ACC network - Dennis Smith


Title: Re: Top 20 draft prospects playing on TV tonight (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on November 27, 2016, 01:19:26 PM
UPDATE: Sunday November 27

4 p.m. Indiana...... O.G. Anunoby and Thomas Bryant on ESPN3

8:30   UCLA..........Lonzo Ball on ESPN
Title: Re: Top 20 draft prospects playing on TV tonight (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on November 27, 2016, 10:31:46 PM
UPDATE: Friday 11/25

7 p.m. (SECN) Kentucky: Malik Monk, De'Aaron Fox, Bam Abedayo

10 p.m. (FS1) Arizona    ; Lauri Markkanen, Alonzo Trier, Rawle Alkins
".............  Lonzo Ball looked better than in the 1st game I saw of him.  Thought he was more of a chucker but he's really pass 1st.  Funky shot but he's making a high percentage.

Lonzo Ball does it ALL!

Man,16-10-5 and 4/9 from three  with at least two blocks inside the paint and MVP of the Wooden Legacy Tourney.

 Despite being  obviously the most skilled player on the floor, his biggest contribution to me was the maturity and  leadership beyond his years that he demonstrated. On one play, he grabbed his teammate, Holiday, so that he wouldn't go after a Texas A&M player after he was hard fouled.  One another, he was barking at his teammate Alford to bring the ball across half-court quicker to avoid a violation.

Skill, poise, leadership and situational awareness. The kid has it all!
Title: Re: Top 20 draft prospects playing on TV tonight (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: Monkhouse on November 27, 2016, 11:51:13 PM
UPDATE: Friday 11/25

7 p.m. (SECN) Kentucky: Malik Monk, De'Aaron Fox, Bam Abedayo

10 p.m. (FS1) Arizona    ; Lauri Markkanen, Alonzo Trier, Rawle Alkins
".............  Lonzo Ball looked better than in the 1st game I saw of him.  Thought he was more of a chucker but he's really pass 1st.  Funky shot but he's making a high percentage.

Lonzo Ball does it ALL!

Man,16-10-5 and 4/9 from three  with at least two blocks inside the paint and MVP of the Wooden Legacy Tourney.

 Despite being  obviously the most skilled player on the floor, his biggest contribution to me was the maturity and  leadership beyond his years that he demonstrated. On one play, he grabbed his teammate, Holiday, so that he wouldn't go after a Texas A&M player after he was hard fouled.  One another, he was barking at his teammate Alford to bring the ball across half-court quicker to avoid a violation.

Skill, poise, leadership and situational awareness. The kid has it all!

I like him, but I'm really interested in watching more Tatum and Jackson... Giles definitely looks interesting, of course his injury history is concerning, but his potential as a two way player with LMA-like qualities is certainly tantalizing..
Title: Re: Top 20 draft prospects playing on TV tonight (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on November 28, 2016, 12:05:24 AM
UPDATE: Friday 11/25

7 p.m. (SECN) Kentucky: Malik Monk, De'Aaron Fox, Bam Abedayo

10 p.m. (FS1) Arizona    ; Lauri Markkanen, Alonzo Trier, Rawle Alkins
".............  Lonzo Ball looked better than in the 1st game I saw of him.  Thought he was more of a chucker but he's really pass 1st.  Funky shot but he's making a high percentage.

Lonzo Ball does it ALL!

Man,16-10-5 and 4/9 from three  with at least two blocks inside the paint and MVP of the Wooden Legacy Tourney.

 Despite being  obviously the most skilled player on the floor, his biggest contribution to me was the maturity and  leadership beyond his years that he demonstrated. On one play, he grabbed his teammate, Holiday, so that he wouldn't go after a Texas A&M player after he was hard fouled.  One another, he was barking at his teammate Alford to bring the ball across half-court quicker to avoid a violation.

Skill, poise, leadership and situational awareness. The kid has it all!

I like him, but I'm really interested in watching more Tatum and Jackson... Giles definitely looks interesting, of course his injury history is concerning, but his potential as a two way player with LMA-like qualities is certainly tantalizing..

Tatum, Bolden and Giles, I hope we all get to see soon.

Seen Jackson a couple of times and not overly impressed like I have been with Ball.

Monk is one to watch.

Edit: Monkhouse to watch Monk...TP
Title: Re: Top 20 draft prospects playing on TV tonight (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: Monkhouse on November 28, 2016, 12:10:25 AM
UPDATE: Friday 11/25

7 p.m. (SECN) Kentucky: Malik Monk, De'Aaron Fox, Bam Abedayo

10 p.m. (FS1) Arizona    ; Lauri Markkanen, Alonzo Trier, Rawle Alkins
".............  Lonzo Ball looked better than in the 1st game I saw of him.  Thought he was more of a chucker but he's really pass 1st.  Funky shot but he's making a high percentage.

Lonzo Ball does it ALL!

Man,16-10-5 and 4/9 from three  with at least two blocks inside the paint and MVP of the Wooden Legacy Tourney.

 Despite being  obviously the most skilled player on the floor, his biggest contribution to me was the maturity and  leadership beyond his years that he demonstrated. On one play, he grabbed his teammate, Holiday, so that he wouldn't go after a Texas A&M player after he was hard fouled.  One another, he was barking at his teammate Alford to bring the ball across half-court quicker to avoid a violation.

Skill, poise, leadership and situational awareness. The kid has it all!

I like him, but I'm really interested in watching more Tatum and Jackson... Giles definitely looks interesting, of course his injury history is concerning, but his potential as a two way player with LMA-like qualities is certainly tantalizing..

Tatum, Bolden and Giles, I hope we all get to see soon.

Seen Jackson a couple of times and not overly impressed like I have been with Ball.

Monk is one to watch.

I like Ball, but man... His shot just looks weird and awkward... I don't know, can he really get it over defenses in the NBA?

I fear for someone who's at a height advantage for his position, will end up becoming like a better MCW. A slightly above rotational back up PG, that could start on some teams, but ultimately is better off the bench or spark starting minutes ala Shaun Livingston.

And TP back at ya lol. I love Malik Monk. But isn't he going like in the late lottery? I just don't see him top 7 pick potential, which I assume we're picking at?
Title: Re: Top 20 draft prospects playing on TV tonight (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on November 28, 2016, 12:33:33 AM
UPDATE: Friday 11/25

7 p.m. (SECN) Kentucky: Malik Monk, De'Aaron Fox, Bam Abedayo

10 p.m. (FS1) Arizona    ; Lauri Markkanen, Alonzo Trier, Rawle Alkins
".............  Lonzo Ball looked better than in the 1st game I saw of him.  Thought he was more of a chucker but he's really pass 1st.  Funky shot but he's making a high percentage.

Lonzo Ball does it ALL!

Man,16-10-5 and 4/9 from three  with at least two blocks inside the paint and MVP of the Wooden Legacy Tourney.

 Despite being  obviously the most skilled player on the floor, his biggest contribution to me was the maturity and  leadership beyond his years that he demonstrated. On one play, he grabbed his teammate, Holiday, so that he wouldn't go after a Texas A&M player after he was hard fouled.  One another, he was barking at his teammate Alford to bring the ball across half-court quicker to avoid a violation.

Skill, poise, leadership and situational awareness. The kid has it all!

I like him, but I'm really interested in watching more Tatum and Jackson... Giles definitely looks interesting, of course his injury history is concerning, but his potential as a two way player with LMA-like qualities is certainly tantalizing..

Tatum, Bolden and Giles, I hope we all get to see soon.

Seen Jackson a couple of times and not overly impressed like I have been with Ball.

Monk is one to watch.

I like Ball, but man... His shot just looks weird and awkward... I don't know, can he really get it over defenses in the NBA?

I fear for someone who's at a height advantage for his position, will end up becoming like a better MCW. A slightly above rotational back up PG, that could start on some teams, but ultimately is better off the bench or spark starting minutes ala Shaun Livingston.

And TP back at ya lol. I love Malik Monk. But isn't he going like in the late lottery? I just don't see him top 7 pick potential, which I assume we're picking at?

Latest draft express (updated tonight at 11:57 ) has Monk at 5 just behind Ball.

And you're right about that low release from Ball, but he gets it off pretty quickly and he's pretty long in his own right.

Title: Re: Top 20 draft prospects playing on TV tonight (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on November 28, 2016, 05:14:43 PM
UPDATE:   Monday 11/28

7 p.m. Kentucky:     Malik Monk, De'Aaron Fox, Bam Abedayo and  Isaiah Briscoe
                               
                                on ESPN2

Kentucky is the only notable game tonight.

If you're bored, also on at 11 p.m. on PAC12 Network is Chris Boucher (almost 24 years old ), Jordan Bell and Dillon Brooks for Oregon, all projected 2nd rounders.
Title: Re: Top 20 draft prospects playing on TV tonight (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: hwangjini_1 on November 28, 2016, 05:52:25 PM
UPDATE: Friday 11/25

7 p.m. (SECN) Kentucky: Malik Monk, De'Aaron Fox, Bam Abedayo

10 p.m. (FS1) Arizona    ; Lauri Markkanen, Alonzo Trier, Rawle Alkins
".............  Lonzo Ball looked better than in the 1st game I saw of him.  Thought he was more of a chucker but he's really pass 1st.  Funky shot but he's making a high percentage.

Lonzo Ball does it ALL!

Man,16-10-5 and 4/9 from three  with at least two blocks inside the paint and MVP of the Wooden Legacy Tourney.

 Despite being  obviously the most skilled player on the floor, his biggest contribution to me was the maturity and  leadership beyond his years that he demonstrated. On one play, he grabbed his teammate, Holiday, so that he wouldn't go after a Texas A&M player after he was hard fouled.  One another, he was barking at his teammate Alford to bring the ball across half-court quicker to avoid a violation.

Skill, poise, leadership and situational awareness. The kid has it all!

I like him, but I'm really interested in watching more Tatum and Jackson... Giles definitely looks interesting, of course his injury history is concerning, but his potential as a two way player with LMA-like qualities is certainly tantalizing..

Tatum, Bolden and Giles, I hope we all get to see soon.

Seen Jackson a couple of times and not overly impressed like I have been with Ball.

Monk is one to watch.

I like Ball, but man... His shot just looks weird and awkward... I don't know, can he really get it over defenses in the NBA?

I fear for someone who's at a height advantage for his position, will end up becoming like a better MCW. A slightly above rotational back up PG, that could start on some teams, but ultimately is better off the bench or spark starting minutes ala Shaun Livingston.

And TP back at ya lol. I love Malik Monk. But isn't he going like in the late lottery? I just don't see him top 7 pick potential, which I assume we're picking at?

Latest draft express (updated tonight at 11:57 ) has Monk at 5 just behind Ball.

And you're right about that low release from Ball, but he gets it off pretty quickly and he's pretty long in his own right.
speaking of draftexpress, giles is now at #13. wow, what a drop. they dont explain why. is it because of not playing? or something about his recovery/injuries?
Title: Re: Top 20 draft prospects playing on TV tonight (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on November 28, 2016, 06:59:57 PM
UPDATE: Friday 11/25

7 p.m. (SECN) Kentucky: Malik Monk, De'Aaron Fox, Bam Abedayo

10 p.m. (FS1) Arizona    ; Lauri Markkanen, Alonzo Trier, Rawle Alkins
".............  Lonzo Ball looked better than in the 1st game I saw of him.  Thought he was more of a chucker but he's really pass 1st.  Funky shot but he's making a high percentage.

Lonzo Ball does it ALL!

Man,16-10-5 and 4/9 from three  with at least two blocks inside the paint and MVP of the Wooden Legacy Tourney.

 Despite being  obviously the most skilled player on the floor, his biggest contribution to me was the maturity and  leadership beyond his years that he demonstrated. On one play, he grabbed his teammate, Holiday, so that he wouldn't go after a Texas A&M player after he was hard fouled.  One another, he was barking at his teammate Alford to bring the ball across half-court quicker to avoid a violation.

Skill, poise, leadership and situational awareness. The kid has it all!

I like him, but I'm really interested in watching more Tatum and Jackson... Giles definitely looks interesting, of course his injury history is concerning, but his potential as a two way player with LMA-like qualities is certainly tantalizing..

Tatum, Bolden and Giles, I hope we all get to see soon.

Seen Jackson a couple of times and not overly impressed like I have been with Ball.

Monk is one to watch.

I like Ball, but man... His shot just looks weird and awkward... I don't know, can he really get it over defenses in the NBA?

I fear for someone who's at a height advantage for his position, will end up becoming like a better MCW. A slightly above rotational back up PG, that could start on some teams, but ultimately is better off the bench or spark starting minutes ala Shaun Livingston.

And TP back at ya lol. I love Malik Monk. But isn't he going like in the late lottery? I just don't see him top 7 pick potential, which I assume we're picking at?

Latest draft express (updated tonight at 11:57 ) has Monk at 5 just behind Ball.

And you're right about that low release from Ball, but he gets it off pretty quickly and he's pretty long in his own right.
speaking of draftexpress, giles is now at #13. wow, what a drop. they dont explain why. is it because of not playing? or something about his recovery/injuries?

Great observation.

I saw that too and was wondering the same.

For everyone's sake, let's hope it's the former.

The more talent at the top, the better.
Title: Re: Top 20 draft prospects playing on TV tonight (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: tazzmaniac on November 28, 2016, 07:15:28 PM
UPDATE:   Monday 11/28

7 p.m. Kentucky:     Malik Monk, De'Aaron Fox, Bam Abedayo and  Isaiah Briscoe
                               
                                on ESPN2

Kentucky is the only notable game tonight.

If you're bored, also on at 11 p.m. on PAC12 Network is Chris Boucher (almost 24 years old ), Jordan Bell and Dillon Brooks for Oregon, all projected 2nd rounders.
Florida State is playing on ESPNU right now.  Unfortunately, I don't get that channel anymore.  Been looking forward to seeing Isaac. 
Title: Re: Top 20 draft prospects playing on TV tonight (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: tazzmaniac on November 28, 2016, 07:26:27 PM
UPDATE: Friday 11/25

7 p.m. (SECN) Kentucky: Malik Monk, De'Aaron Fox, Bam Abedayo

10 p.m. (FS1) Arizona    ; Lauri Markkanen, Alonzo Trier, Rawle Alkins
".............  Lonzo Ball looked better than in the 1st game I saw of him.  Thought he was more of a chucker but he's really pass 1st.  Funky shot but he's making a high percentage.

Lonzo Ball does it ALL!

Man,16-10-5 and 4/9 from three  with at least two blocks inside the paint and MVP of the Wooden Legacy Tourney.

 Despite being  obviously the most skilled player on the floor, his biggest contribution to me was the maturity and  leadership beyond his years that he demonstrated. On one play, he grabbed his teammate, Holiday, so that he wouldn't go after a Texas A&M player after he was hard fouled.  One another, he was barking at his teammate Alford to bring the ball across half-court quicker to avoid a violation.

Skill, poise, leadership and situational awareness. The kid has it all!

I like him, but I'm really interested in watching more Tatum and Jackson... Giles definitely looks interesting, of course his injury history is concerning, but his potential as a two way player with LMA-like qualities is certainly tantalizing..

Tatum, Bolden and Giles, I hope we all get to see soon.

Seen Jackson a couple of times and not overly impressed like I have been with Ball.

Monk is one to watch.

I like Ball, but man... His shot just looks weird and awkward... I don't know, can he really get it over defenses in the NBA?

I fear for someone who's at a height advantage for his position, will end up becoming like a better MCW. A slightly above rotational back up PG, that could start on some teams, but ultimately is better off the bench or spark starting minutes ala Shaun Livingston.

And TP back at ya lol. I love Malik Monk. But isn't he going like in the late lottery? I just don't see him top 7 pick potential, which I assume we're picking at?

Latest draft express (updated tonight at 11:57 ) has Monk at 5 just behind Ball.

And you're right about that low release from Ball, but he gets it off pretty quickly and he's pretty long in his own right.
speaking of draftexpress, giles is now at #13. wow, what a drop. they dont explain why. is it because of not playing? or something about his recovery/injuries?
It would be nice if they'd put a bit of commentary explaining the movement.  Jayson Tatum isn't playing either and he only dropped a spot or two.  Unless there is something significant, I don't see how Giles could drop below Rabb. 
Title: Re: Top 20 draft prospects playing on TV tonight (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on November 28, 2016, 07:27:06 PM
UPDATE:   Monday 11/28

7 p.m. Kentucky:     Malik Monk, De'Aaron Fox, Bam Abedayo and  Isaiah Briscoe
                               
                                on ESPN2

Kentucky is the only notable game tonight.

If you're bored, also on at 11 p.m. on PAC12 Network is Chris Boucher (almost 24 years old ), Jordan Bell and Dillon Brooks for Oregon, all projected 2nd rounders.
Florida State is playing on ESPNU right now.  Unfortunately, I don't get that channel anymore.  Been looking forward to seeing Isaac.

Thanks..also....Dwayne Bacon was a potential first rounder last year in many mocks.  He is fun to watch too.
Title: Re: Top 20 draft prospects playing on TV tonight (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: tazzmaniac on November 28, 2016, 08:19:41 PM
UPDATE:   Monday 11/28

7 p.m. Kentucky:     Malik Monk, De'Aaron Fox, Bam Abedayo and  Isaiah Briscoe
                               
                                on ESPN2

Kentucky is the only notable game tonight.

If you're bored, also on at 11 p.m. on PAC12 Network is Chris Boucher (almost 24 years old ), Jordan Bell and Dillon Brooks for Oregon, all projected 2nd rounders.
Florida State is playing on ESPNU right now.  Unfortunately, I don't get that channel anymore.  Been looking forward to seeing Isaac.

Thanks..also....Dwayne Bacon was a potential first rounder last year in many mocks.  He is fun to watch too.
Hopefully I'll get to judge that with my own eyes before too much longer. 

Another prospect to keep an eye on is Robert Williams for Texas A&M.  NBA folks at the NBA tournament apparently said he'd go in the 1st round and he's 31 on the new DraftExpress mock.  He looked raw but good against UCLA. 
Title: Re: Top 20 draft prospects playing on TV tonight (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on November 28, 2016, 09:15:25 PM
UPDATE:   Monday 11/28

7 p.m. Kentucky:     Malik Monk, De'Aaron Fox, Bam Abedayo and  Isaiah Briscoe
                               
                                on ESPN2

Kentucky is the only notable game tonight.

If you're bored, also on at 11 p.m. on PAC12 Network is Chris Boucher (almost 24 years old ), Jordan Bell and Dillon Brooks for Oregon, all projected 2nd rounders.
Florida State is playing on ESPNU right now.  Unfortunately, I don't get that channel anymore.  Been looking forward to seeing Isaac.

Thanks..also....Dwayne Bacon was a potential first rounder last year in many mocks.  He is fun to watch too.
Hopefully I'll get to judge that with my own eyes before too much longer. 

Another prospect to keep an eye on is Robert Williams for Texas A&M.  NBA folks at the NBA tournament apparently said he'd go in the 1st round and he's 31 on the new DraftExpress mock.  He looked raw but good against UCLA.

I agree on Williams.  He impressed me in that game too. Especially with his aggression. Big, strong, quick. Had some great blocks. On one he got T'd up for using the F word after a loud block. (Glad the refs are getting tighter on that in college). He learned, though, and on his next block acted like he'd been there before. Nice to see that.
Title: Re: Top 20 draft prospects playing on TV tonight (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: tazzmaniac on November 28, 2016, 11:08:00 PM
Prospect viewing for 11/29 

6:30  FS1 -  Xavier: Edmond Sumner

8:00 ESPN3 - Kansas: Josh Jackson

9:00  ESPNU -  N.C. State: Dennis Smith

9:30 ESPN - Duke:  Grayson Allen  vs.  Michigan State:  Myles Bridges




Title: Re: Top 20 draft prospects playing on TV tonight (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on November 30, 2016, 06:46:25 PM
Prospect viewing for 11/29 

6:30  FS1 -  Xavier: Edmond Sumner

8:00 ESPN3 - Kansas: Josh Jackson

9:00  ESPNU -  N.C. State: Dennis Smith

9:30 ESPN - Duke:  Grayson Allen  vs.  Michigan State:  Myles Bridges

Sumner had some nice dishes last night, but held scoreless for 1st half vs poor competition.

Smith was kept under wraps by a pretty good looking Illini team.

Bridges (as the tread on him suggests) is definitely a climber and has all the tools of a top 10 pick.

Grayson Allen was 5/11 from 3.
Title: Re: Top 20 draft prospects playing on TV tonight (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: chilidawg on November 30, 2016, 06:51:19 PM
The couple times I've seen duke this year I thought Kennard looked better than Allen.  Haven't seen any talk about him.
Title: Re: Top 20 draft prospects playing on TV tonight (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on November 30, 2016, 06:54:27 PM
UPDATE Wednesday, November 30

9 p.m. PAC -12 Network........................ Arizona..... Markkanen, Atkins, Trier

9:15 ESPN...........................UNC vs Ind...OG Anunoby, Thomas Bryant (ind)
                                                               Justin Jackson, Isaiah Hicks (UNC)
9:15 ESPNU.........................Clemson ...Jaron Blossongame

11:00 PAc-12.......................UCLA........Lonzo Ball (my favorite next to a
                                                          Healthy Giles, if that happens)           
Title: Re: Top 20 draft prospects playing on TV tonight (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: tazzmaniac on November 30, 2016, 07:07:41 PM
The couple times I've seen duke this year I thought Kennard looked better than Allen.  Haven't seen any talk about him.
Kennard's not on the DraftExpress mock and he's a 2nd rounder in the NBADraft.net mock.  There's a good chance he returns for his junior season.  Allen is projected by both as late 1st round. 
Title: Re: Top 20 draft prospects playing on TV tonight (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on November 30, 2016, 07:15:57 PM
The couple times I've seen duke this year I thought Kennard looked better than Allen.  Haven't seen any talk about him.
Kennard's not on the DraftExpress mock and he's a 2nd rounder in the NBADraft.net mock.  There's a good chance he returns for his junior season.  Allen is projected by both as late 1st round.

Allen has been injured with a turf toe type injury, but he keeps playing and he's a tough guy. Also, with the three star freshmen out,  he's been asked to carry a huge load.

 When these guys return he will be able to be far more efficient with all these better players around him, and I think we will see him climb  in the mocks, getting healthier physically and having a lot more help.
Title: Re: Top 20 draft prospects playing on TV tonight (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: tazzmaniac on November 30, 2016, 07:20:46 PM
UPDATE Wednesday, November 30

9 p.m. PAC -12 Network........................ Arizona..... Markkanen, Atkins, Trier

9:15 ESPN...........................UNC vs Ind...OG Anunoby, Thomas Bryant (ind)
                                                               Justin Jackson, Isaiah Hicks (UNC)
9:15 ESPNU.........................Clemson ...Jaron Blossongame

11:00 PAc-12.......................UCLA........Lonzo Ball (my favorite next to a
                                                          Healthy Giles, if that happens)           
I'm like a kid in a candy store.  I'm overwhelmed by all the choices.  Way too many talented players to have to choose just one. 
Title: Re: Top 20 draft prospects playing on TV tonight (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on November 30, 2016, 09:03:31 PM
UPDATE Wednesday, November 30

9 p.m. PAC -12 Network........................ Arizona..... Markkanen, Atkins, Trier

9:15 ESPN...........................UNC vs Ind...OG Anunoby, Thomas Bryant (ind)
                                                               Justin Jackson, Isaiah Hicks (UNC)
9:15 ESPNU.........................Clemson ...Jaron Blossongame

11:00 PAc-12.......................UCLA........Lonzo Ball (my favorite next to a
                                                          Healthy Giles, if that happens)           
I'm like a kid in a candy store.  I'm overwhelmed by all the choices.  Way too many talented players to have to choose just one.

And it's only gonna get better with all the holiday tourneys and all. ;D
Title: Re: Top 20 draft prospects playing on TV tonight (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on December 02, 2016, 06:40:33 PM
UPDATE: Friday, December 2nd

7 p.m. ESPN3    Indiana:   OG Anunoby, Thomas Bryant

9:30    ESPNU    Texas:     Jarrett Allen

EDIT:Anunoby out "indefinitely" with sprained ankle
Title: Re: Top 20 draft prospects playing on TV tonight (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: tazzmaniac on December 03, 2016, 01:55:43 AM
12/3 - Good time to be a coach potato and watch top prospects all day 

12:30  CBS -  UCLA vs Kentucky:  Ball, Monk, Fox, Bam, ...   

3:30  ESPN -  Kansas: Josh Jackson

3:30  ESPN2 -  Xavier:  Edmond Sumner

4:00  Pac12 NW -  Cal:  Rabb

4:30  ACC NW - N.C. State:  Dennis Smith

4:30  Big Ten NW - Michigan State:  Bridges

5:30  ESPN -  Arizona:  Markkanen

5:30  ESPN2 -  Duke:  Frank Jackson and Allen    (Still no Giles, Tatum or Bolden) 




Title: Re: Top 20 draft prospects playing on TV tonight (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on December 03, 2016, 10:22:25 AM
12/3 - Good time to be a coach potato and watch top prospects all day 

12:30  CBS -  UCLA vs Kentucky:  Ball, Monk, Fox, Bam, ...   

3:30  ESPN -  Kansas: Josh Jackson

3:30  ESPN2 -  Xavier:  Edmond Sumner

4:00  Pac12 NW -  Cal:  Rabb

4:30  ACC NW - N.C. State:  Dennis Smith

4:30  Big Ten NW - Michigan State:  Bridges

5:30  ESPN -  Arizona:  Markkanen

5:30  ESPN2 -  Duke:  Frank Jackson and Allen    (Still no Giles, Tatum or Bolden)

TP, tazz. Thanks for the update!

Ball and Monk are two of the players I've most enjoyed watching so far.

When Giles, Bolden and Tatum are ready to play for Duke. they will show why Duke got many pre-season #1 rankings. Sounds like they have been participating in practices (not sure to what extent) and it sounds like Bolden and Tatum especially are close. Here's a little blurb on their status.

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Harry Giles, the No. 2 rated recruit in the 2016 class, underwent a minor knee surgery before the season and was expected to be out six weeks. It's been almost eight weeks, and he's remained at the end of the bench for Duke. Giles has appeared in warmups the past week for Duke, and it's entirely possible that he could make his return soon. Of the three freshmen, however, he will likely be the last to make a return.

The other two freshmen who have not appeared in games -- Jayson Tatum and Marques Bolden -- are in a similar situation as Giles. They've participated in warmups, but still, no action.

Tatum suffered a sprained foot in a late October practice, and Bolden suffered a lower leg injury that has held him out.

http://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/its-entirely-possible-that-all-these-injuries-end-up-making-duke-even-better/
Title: Re: Top 20 draft prospects playing on TV tonight (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: tazzmaniac on December 03, 2016, 10:59:23 AM
12/3 - Good time to be a coach potato and watch top prospects all day 

12:30  CBS -  UCLA vs Kentucky:  Ball, Monk, Fox, Bam, ...   

3:30  ESPN -  Kansas: Josh Jackson

3:30  ESPN2 -  Xavier:  Edmond Sumner

4:00  Pac12 NW -  Cal:  Rabb

4:30  ACC NW - N.C. State:  Dennis Smith

4:30  Big Ten NW - Michigan State:  Bridges

5:30  ESPN -  Arizona:  Markkanen

5:30  ESPN2 -  Duke:  Frank Jackson and Allen    (Still no Giles, Tatum or Bolden)

TP, tazz. Thanks for the update!

Ball and Monk are two of the players I've most enjoyed watching so far.

When Giles, Bolden and Tatum are ready to play for Duke. they will show why Duke got many pre-season #1 rankings. Sounds like they have been participating in practices (not sure to what extent) and it sounds like Bolden and Tatum especially are close. Here's a little blurb on their status.

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Harry Giles, the No. 2 rated recruit in the 2016 class, underwent a minor knee surgery before the season and was expected to be out six weeks. It's been almost eight weeks, and he's remained at the end of the bench for Duke. Giles has appeared in warmups the past week for Duke, and it's entirely possible that he could make his return soon. Of the three freshmen, however, he will likely be the last to make a return.

The other two freshmen who have not appeared in games -- Jayson Tatum and Marques Bolden -- are in a similar situation as Giles. They've participated in warmups, but still, no action.

Tatum suffered a sprained foot in a late October practice, and Bolden suffered a lower leg injury that has held him out.

http://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/its-entirely-possible-that-all-these-injuries-end-up-making-duke-even-better/
TP for the injury update. 
Title: Re: Top 20 draft prospects playing on TV tonight (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: Chief Macho on December 03, 2016, 12:52:18 PM
watch this zona game tonight and tell me what you guys think of Kobi Simmons.  Athletic freak. 
Title: Re: Top 20 draft prospects playing on TV tonight (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: chilidawg on December 03, 2016, 01:18:24 PM
Watching UCLA Kentucky right now, ridiculous athleticism on both teams.  Very small sample size impressions:

Ball has an easy handle, very skilled with the ball.  A little lackadaisical overall unless he has the ball.  Had a great D possession blocking Monk when he tried to drive on him, followed up by getting schooled by Fox on a drive.  Kids.

Fox is explosive and has a great crossover.

Adebayo certainly looks the part of Biyambo type player, active and athletic big.  Anibigobu from UCLA also fits that description, hadn't heard of him.
Title: Re: Top 20 draft prospects playing on TV tonight (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: chilidawg on December 03, 2016, 03:30:57 PM
Nice win for UCLA on the road.  Ball really has great court vision and handles.  Good athlete with great length for a point.  UCLA's ball movement was outstanding until late in the game when both teams were clearly tiring.  Draft Express has a nice piece out on his impact on the team: http://www.draftexpress.com/article/Lonzo-Ball-Transforming-UCLA-5727/.

Leaf and Holiday both impressed off the bench for UCLA.  Fox looked like the best player for Kentucky, and Adebayo was certainly a beast inside.  Adebayo also shot well from the line which will be big for a player with his skillset.
Title: Re: Top 20 draft prospects playing on TV tonight (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: tazzmaniac on December 03, 2016, 04:43:41 PM
Nice win for UCLA on the road.  Ball really has great court vision and handles.  Good athlete with great length for a point.  UCLA's ball movement was outstanding until late in the game when both teams were clearly tiring.  Draft Express has a nice piece out on his impact on the team: http://www.draftexpress.com/article/Lonzo-Ball-Transforming-UCLA-5727/.

Leaf and Holiday both impressed off the bench for UCLA.  Fox looked like the best player for Kentucky, and Adebayo was certainly a beast inside.  Adebayo also shot well from the line which will be big for a player with his skillset.
Ball has exceeded my expectations.  Better all around player than I thought and he's effective without the ball.  Coming in as a freshman and taking charge of an experienced team says a lot for his maturity and leadership. 

Fox is on his way to becoming my favorite (not best) player in this draft.  Just needs to develop his jump shot.  Adebayo has looked better each time I've seen him.  For someone so large, to be able to step out on the perimeter and defend so well is very impressive. 
Title: Re: Top 20 draft prospects playing on TV tonight (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: chilidawg on December 03, 2016, 06:09:02 PM
Nice win for UCLA on the road.  Ball really has great court vision and handles.  Good athlete with great length for a point.  UCLA's ball movement was outstanding until late in the game when both teams were clearly tiring.  Draft Express has a nice piece out on his impact on the team: http://www.draftexpress.com/article/Lonzo-Ball-Transforming-UCLA-5727/.

Leaf and Holiday both impressed off the bench for UCLA.  Fox looked like the best player for Kentucky, and Adebayo was certainly a beast inside.  Adebayo also shot well from the line which will be big for a player with his skillset.
Ball has exceeded my expectations.  Better all around player than I thought and he's effective without the ball.  Coming in as a freshman and taking charge of an experienced team says a lot for his maturity and leadership. 

Fox is on his way to becoming my favorite (not best) player in this draft.  Just needs to develop his jump shot.  Adebayo has looked better each time I've seen him.  For someone so large, to be able to step out on the perimeter and defend so well is very impressive.

I didn't know anything about Fox coming in to today's game, but his jump shot looked pretty solid.   He's got good size for a point too.

I noticed the same thing about Adebayo.  If he develops some offensive skills he'll be a real force. 
Title: Re: Top 20 draft prospects playing on TV tonight (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: Denis998 on December 03, 2016, 06:18:35 PM
Looks like Tatum is back from injury today. He is currently playing.
Title: Re: Top 20 draft prospects playing on TV tonight (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: tazzmaniac on December 03, 2016, 07:48:33 PM
Looks like Tatum is back from injury today. He is currently playing.
Bolden played too.  So now just need Giles back.  DraftExpress has Tatum and Jackson as the same size but Tatum appears significantly bigger. 
Title: Re: Top 20 draft prospects playing on TV tonight (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on December 04, 2016, 10:04:18 AM
UPDATE:  Sunday, 12/4


2 p.m. ACC/NS  Clemson    Jaron Blossomgame

4 p.m. ESPN2   Indiana   Thomas Bryant  and OG Anunoby (May not play, ankle)

4 p.m. CBSSN      Fla. St.    Jonathan Isaac, Dwayne Bacon

Title: Re: Top 20 draft prospects playing on TV tonight (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: chilidawg on December 04, 2016, 04:50:06 PM
Draft Express has a couple good videos up on Ball and Fox from yesterday's game.

http://www.draftexpress.com/article/Matchup-Video-Lonzo-Ball-vs-Kentucky-5730/

http://www.draftexpress.com/article/Matchup-Video-DeAaron-Fox-vs-UCLA-5729/

Does anyone else find it impossible to listen to these with the sound on?  Just brutal music choices.
Title: Re: Top 20 draft prospects playing on TV tonight (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: alewilliam789 on December 04, 2016, 05:11:56 PM
Looks like Tatum is back from injury today. He is currently playing.
Bolden played too.  So now just need Giles back.  DraftExpress has Tatum and Jackson as the same size but Tatum appears significantly bigger.
Yeah really liked what I saw from Bolden. Used his length to change shots around the rim, exhibited a back to the basket game, and was grabbing O-Reb. He really looks like the game changing talent that we need in the frontcourt to make us a dangerous team. Definitely can't wait to see more!!
Title: Re: Top 20 draft prospects playing on TV tonight (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on December 04, 2016, 05:34:02 PM
Looks like Tatum is back from injury today. He is currently playing.
Bolden played too.  So now just need Giles back.  DraftExpress has Tatum and Jackson as the same size but Tatum appears significantly bigger.
Yeah really liked what I saw from Bolden. Used his length to change shots around the rim, exhibited a back to the basket game, and was grabbing O-Reb. He really looks like the game changing talent that we need in the frontcourt to make us a dangerous team. Definitely can't wait to see more!!

TP...That's good news about Bolden. The more bigs at the top of the draft, the better for us and our pick. Right now Giles (?), Markkanen and Raab are the only ones deserving to be in the top 20. Jarrett Allen from Texas looks a long way away and I only see his stock slipping before it might go up again.

Thomas Bryant is someone that could move up in the mocks. He's on now with Indiana, but I haven't been able to watch.
Title: Re: Top 20 draft prospects playing on TV tonight (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on December 04, 2016, 05:36:05 PM
Draft Express has a couple good videos up on Ball and Fox from yesterday's game.

http://www.draftexpress.com/article/Matchup-Video-Lonzo-Ball-vs-Kentucky-5730/

http://www.draftexpress.com/article/Matchup-Video-DeAaron-Fox-vs-UCLA-5729/

Does anyone else find it impossible to listen to these with the sound on?  Just brutal music choices.

TP, 'dawg, and thanks for the vids.

Ball's presence, maturity and leadership impress me as well as his skills. (I know that i've said this before)

Fox's under control quickness is extremely impressive.
Title: Re: Top 20 draft prospects playing on TV tonight (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: tazzmaniac on December 04, 2016, 05:39:07 PM
Looks like Tatum is back from injury today. He is currently playing.
Bolden played too.  So now just need Giles back.  DraftExpress has Tatum and Jackson as the same size but Tatum appears significantly bigger.
Yeah really liked what I saw from Bolden. Used his length to change shots around the rim, exhibited a back to the basket game, and was grabbing O-Reb. He really looks like the game changing talent that we need in the frontcourt to make us a dangerous team. Definitely can't wait to see more!!
Only saw part of the 2nd half so didn't get to see Bolden too much.  Bolden is going to have to look really, really good to make it into the top 5 of this draft.  Next viewing is Tuesday at 9:00 on ESPN.  Maybe Giles will be playing too. 
Title: Re: Top 20 draft prospects playing on TV tonight (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: alewilliam789 on December 04, 2016, 05:40:06 PM
Looks like Tatum is back from injury today. He is currently playing.
Bolden played too.  So now just need Giles back.  DraftExpress has Tatum and Jackson as the same size but Tatum appears significantly bigger.
Yeah really liked what I saw from Bolden. Used his length to change shots around the rim, exhibited a back to the basket game, and was grabbing O-Reb. He really looks like the game changing talent that we need in the frontcourt to make us a dangerous team. Definitely can't wait to see more!!

TP...That's good news about Bolden. The more bigs at the top of the draft, the better for us and our pick. Right now Giles (?), Markkanen and Raab are the only ones deserving to be in the top 20. Jarrett Allen from Texas looks a long way away and I only see his stock slipping before it might go up again.

Thomas Bryant is someone that could move up in the mocks. He's on now with Indiana, but I haven't been able to watch.

If I were the Celtics as for today and let's say we ended up with the 5th overall pick this would be my big board:
1. Jaysom Tatum
2.Marques Bolden
3. Ivan Rabb
4. Harry Giles
5. De'Aaron Fox

God this is such a deep and exciting draft!!!!!
Title: Re: Top 20 draft prospects playing on TV tonight (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on December 04, 2016, 05:47:37 PM
Looks like Tatum is back from injury today. He is currently playing.
Bolden played too.  So now just need Giles back.  DraftExpress has Tatum and Jackson as the same size but Tatum appears significantly bigger.
Yeah really liked what I saw from Bolden. Used his length to change shots around the rim, exhibited a back to the basket game, and was grabbing O-Reb. He really looks like the game changing talent that we need in the frontcourt to make us a dangerous team. Definitely can't wait to see more!!
Only saw part of the 2nd half so didn't get to see Bolden too much.  Bolden is going to have to look really, really good to make it into the top 5 of this draft.  Next viewing is Tuesday at 9:00 on ESPN.  Maybe Giles will be playing too.

I missed Bryant today. Did/are you watching him. If so, what do you think. He has looked real solid to me in other games that I saw him.
Title: Re: Top 20 draft prospects playing on TV tonight (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: positivitize on December 04, 2016, 06:17:40 PM
Draft Express has a couple good videos up on Ball and Fox from yesterday's game.

http://www.draftexpress.com/article/Matchup-Video-Lonzo-Ball-vs-Kentucky-5730/

http://www.draftexpress.com/article/Matchup-Video-DeAaron-Fox-vs-UCLA-5729/

Does anyone else find it impossible to listen to these with the sound on?  Just brutal music choices.

TP, 'dawg, and thanks for the vids.

Ball's presence, maturity and leadership impress me as well as his skills. (I know that i've said this before)

Fox's under control quickness is extremely impressive.

Ball looks bad. If he struggles vs the strength and athleticism of UK, he'll struggle vs the strength and athleticism of the NBA.

It looks cool when he pulls up from long range and they go in, but he's gotta shoot it a lot better than 2-8 if he's gonna keep that Edited.  Profanity and masked profanity are against forum rules and may result in discipline. up. This kid has B-U-S-T written all over him.
Title: Re: Top 20 draft prospects playing on TV tonight (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: tazzmaniac on December 04, 2016, 07:14:13 PM
Looks like Tatum is back from injury today. He is currently playing.
Bolden played too.  So now just need Giles back.  DraftExpress has Tatum and Jackson as the same size but Tatum appears significantly bigger.
Yeah really liked what I saw from Bolden. Used his length to change shots around the rim, exhibited a back to the basket game, and was grabbing O-Reb. He really looks like the game changing talent that we need in the frontcourt to make us a dangerous team. Definitely can't wait to see more!!
Only saw part of the 2nd half so didn't get to see Bolden too much.  Bolden is going to have to look really, really good to make it into the top 5 of this draft.  Next viewing is Tuesday at 9:00 on ESPN.  Maybe Giles will be playing too.

I missed Bryant today. Did/are you watching him. If so, what do you think. He has looked real solid to me in other games that I saw him.
I didn't see today's game but I've seen him in a few others this year.  Bryant looks like a solid college player but I don't see him being a lottery pick in this draft.  Someone on here compared him to Embiid but I don't see it. 
Title: Re: Top 20 draft prospects playing on TV tonight (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on December 04, 2016, 08:12:45 PM
Funny, this time of year the mocks are all over the place. Nbadraft.net has Bryant in the 40s but DRaftexpress has him at 22, not far from the lottery, with plenty of time to move up...or down.

The times that I've watched him, he's looked real solid, kind of an anchor for the team. This from NBA draft.net:

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Strengths: Possesses great length with a 7'5 wingspan, a 9'3.5 standing reach and solid athleticism … Competitor. Plays with great intensity, passion, and aggression … Hustles hard, runs the floor well ... Great finisher around the basket … Finishes well in transition but also knows how to play in a half court setting … Great rebounder. Crashes the glass on offense. Does an excellent job of keeping the ball high on offensive rebounds and not letting smaller defenders get a hand on it … Can face up and shoot, all the way out to the three if the defender is sagging off … Reliable, good teammate who has the ability to put his team on his back ... Active, doesn’t take plays off. Isn’t the type to stand around and wait for something to happen … Good defender. Active hands. Protects the paint, blocks shots, good help defender … Isn’t afraid to bang in the paint … His intensity and desire gives him a lot of promise as these are qualities you don't often find in a talented young bigman ...

Weaknesses: Not the most fluid or athletic player, but his great intensity helps combat this ... His great length gives him shot blocking potential, however he lacks explosive leaping ability ... Feet appear somewhat anchored to the floor as he isn't good at moving laterally ... Still needs to develop his low post game ... While he makes a high percentage of his shots in the paint, he needs to develop his footwork and back to the basket game moving forward ... He has made strides in filling out his frame over the past few years but still has room to get stronger ...

Outlook: Indiana landed a good one in Thomas Bryant. He does have an unorthodox playing style, one coach described as “awkward but effective”. Bryant has done a great job against players who received more praise by evaluators, often times outplaying them. After losing five top 100 players last season, he has stepped up as the leader of a very talented Huntington Prep team and should contribute as soon as he arrives on campus at Indiana.


Having a hard time thinking of a comp for him. They say Chris Kaman.
Title: Re: Top 20 draft prospects playing on TV tonight (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: hwangjini_1 on December 04, 2016, 08:30:57 PM
Draft Express has a couple good videos up on Ball and Fox from yesterday's game.

http://www.draftexpress.com/article/Matchup-Video-Lonzo-Ball-vs-Kentucky-5730/

http://www.draftexpress.com/article/Matchup-Video-DeAaron-Fox-vs-UCLA-5729/

Does anyone else find it impossible to listen to these with the sound on?  Just brutal music choices.
Geez, it is just one video of just one game, but ball looked utterly lost on defense. He has zero idea of how to play off a pick and basically didn't seem to care much.
Title: Re: Top 20 draft prospects playing on TV tonight (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: alewilliam789 on December 04, 2016, 08:44:20 PM
Anyone as impressed with Ivan Rabb as I am? Guy looks like a lock for a top 5 pick even in this deep draft. Is averaging per 40 numbers of 25 ppg and 13 rpg!!! I was watching his game and he was hitting beautiful post fadeaways, finishing around the rim, and working on the block.

I think I'm falling in love with the idea of Ivan Rabb in a Celtics uniform.
Title: Re: Top 20 draft prospects playing on TV tonight (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on December 04, 2016, 09:58:09 PM
Draft Express has a couple good videos up on Ball and Fox from yesterday's game.

http://www.draftexpress.com/article/Matchup-Video-Lonzo-Ball-vs-Kentucky-5730/

http://www.draftexpress.com/article/Matchup-Video-DeAaron-Fox-vs-UCLA-5729/

Does anyone else find it impossible to listen to these with the sound on?  Just brutal music choices.
Geez, it is just one video of just one game, but ball looked utterly lost on defense. He has zero idea of how to play off a pick and basically didn't seem to care much.

I appreciate your candor of acknowledging "one video, one game".

Ball had a rough start heaving 3s especially. But, he came through when he needed to with some really timely plays.

He led his team to a win at Rupp, historically a difficult place to play, against the deserved #1 team in the country. Kentucky has arguably 4 players (Fox, Abedayo, Monk, who I think is their best player right now and Briscoe) who are better athletes than anyone except Ball on UCLA.

It took Ball a while to adjust to this type of collective athleticism that he has never faced before in a hostile environment, all the while playing all but 2 minutes of the game. His 38 minutes was more than any player on either team, as a freshman on a team with a bunch of upperclassmen. This is Ball's team, and he led them to a win.

And really, even if you look at the stat-line closely, he and Fox were not that far apart, despite the fact that Fox had a better supporting cast.

Ball and Fox are pretty close in my mind right now. Fox is an electric player, Ball is a winner.
Title: Re: Top 20 draft prospects playing on TV tonight (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: BitterJim on December 04, 2016, 10:08:10 PM
Anyone as impressed with Ivan Rabb as I am? Guy looks like a lock for a top 5 pick even in this deep draft. Is averaging per 40 numbers of 25 ppg and 13 rpg!!! I was watching his game and he was hitting beautiful post fadeaways, finishing around the rim, and working on the block.

I think I'm falling in love with the idea of Ivan Rabb in a Celtics uniform.

I wish he had come out last year. A Brown-Rabb draft would have been great for us. I'm not sure that we'll have an opportunity to take him this year, unless something drastic happens to either make him jump way up (which would be great) or the Nets go on a run
Title: Re: Top 20 draft prospects playing on TV tonight (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: chilidawg on December 05, 2016, 08:54:17 AM
Draft Express has a couple good videos up on Ball and Fox from yesterday's game.

http://www.draftexpress.com/article/Matchup-Video-Lonzo-Ball-vs-Kentucky-5730/

http://www.draftexpress.com/article/Matchup-Video-DeAaron-Fox-vs-UCLA-5729/

Does anyone else find it impossible to listen to these with the sound on?  Just brutal music choices.
Geez, it is just one video of just one game, but ball looked utterly lost on defense. He has zero idea of how to play off a pick and basically didn't seem to care much.

I appreciate your candor of acknowledging "one video, one game".

Ball had a rough start heaving 3s especially. But, he came through when he needed to with some really timely plays.

He led his team to a win at Rupp, historically a difficult place to play, against the deserved #1 team in the country. Kentucky has arguably 4 players (Fox, Abedayo, Monk, who I think is their best player right now and Briscoe) who are better athletes than anyone except Ball on UCLA.

It took Ball a while to adjust to this type of collective athleticism that he has never faced before in a hostile environment, all the while playing all but 2 minutes of the game. His 38 minutes was more than any player on either team, as a freshman on a team with a bunch of upperclassmen. This is Ball's team, and he led them to a win.

And really, even if you look at the stat-line closely, he and Fox were not that far apart, despite the fact that Fox had a better supporting cast.

Ball and Fox are pretty close in my mind right now. Fox is an electric player, Ball is a winner.

Watching the game I got a pretty similar impression of Ball.  Lots of warts in his game, but has amazing court vision and length.  People keep dissing the form on his shot but I didn't think it was too bad, a little low on the release, but he's quick with it.  Has real NBA range.  Moves well, very fluid.  Needs to work on his strength and defensive intensity.
Title: Re: Top 20 draft prospects playing on TV tonight (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on December 05, 2016, 05:04:08 PM
Not many potential draft picks to watch tonight.

UPDATE: Monday 12/5

7 p.m. ESPN2  Syracuse (the two Tylers, Lydon and Roberson)
                     vs UCONN (Amida Bridah)

8 p.m. SECN   Texas A&M   Robert Williams (this kid could be a monster)
Title: Re: Top 20 draft prospects playing on TV tonight (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on December 05, 2016, 07:15:22 PM
I just turned off the Syracuse UConn game. Couldn't watch.

PAINFUL

5 1/2 minutes into the game and the score was 3-2.

PITIFUL
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Post by: csfansince60s on December 06, 2016, 10:29:29 AM
UPDATE: Tuesday 12/6.....lots of draftees in action

7 p.m. ESPNU  MSU     Miles Bridges

7 p.m. ACCN    FSU     Jonathan Isaac, Dwayne Bacon

7 p.m. FS1       Cal      Ivan Rabb

8 p.m. ESPN3    Kan    Josh Jackson

9 p.m. ESPN      Duke  Tatum, Bolden, Allen (no Giles yet)

9 p.m. ESPN2    Texas  Jarrett Allen

10 p.m. PAC12N Arizona Markkanen, Alkins
Title: Re: Tuesday 12/6:Top 20 draft prospects playing on TV tonight (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: saltlover on December 06, 2016, 11:01:11 AM
Michigan has a pretty weak frontcourt.  If Jarrett Allen can't get it going against them tonight, we need to take him off this list.
Title: Re: Top 20 draft prospects playing on TV tonight (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: Evantime34 on December 06, 2016, 11:06:11 AM
UPDATE: Tuesday 12/6.....lots of draftees in action

7 p.m. ESPNU  MSU     Miles Bridges

7 p.m. ACCN    FSU     Jonathan Isaac, Dwayne Bacon

7 p.m. FS1       Cal      Ivan Rabb

8 p.m. ESPN3    Kan    Josh Jackson

9 p.m. ESPN      Duke  Tatum, Bolden, Allen (no Giles yet)

9 p.m. ESPN2    Texas  Jarrett Allen

10 p.m. PAC12N Arizona Markkanen, Alkins
I didn't know Tatum and Bolden are coming back. That is great news, I'm excited to watch Tatum especially.

From the clips I've seen of him, he reminds me of Paul Pierce. I think long term him and Jaylen will have enough size to be our starting 3/4 combo that switches everything.
Title: Re: Tuesday 12/6:Top 20 draft prospects playing on TV tonight (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on December 06, 2016, 11:46:57 AM
Michigan has a pretty weak frontcourt.  If Jarrett Allen can't get it going against them tonight, we need to take him off this list.

I agree....Allen has looked weak (physically and mentally) and lost the times that I have seen him.

I didn't see his last game vs "Bama, but he started and only played 19 minutes with 0 RB, 0 Assts, 0 steals, 1 block, 3 TO and 4 fouls.
Title: Re: Top 20 draft prospects playing on TV tonight (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on December 06, 2016, 12:00:16 PM
UPDATE: Tuesday 12/6.....lots of draftees in action

7 p.m. ESPNU  MSU     Miles Bridges

7 p.m. ACCN    FSU     Jonathan Isaac, Dwayne Bacon

7 p.m. FS1       Cal      Ivan Rabb

8 p.m. ESPN3    Kan    Josh Jackson

9 p.m. ESPN      Duke  Tatum, Bolden, Allen (no Giles yet)

9 p.m. ESPN2    Texas  Jarrett Allen

10 p.m. PAC12N Arizona Markkanen, Alkins
I didn't know Tatum and Bolden are coming back. That is great news, I'm excited to watch Tatum especially.

From the clips I've seen of him, he reminds me of Paul Pierce. I think long term him and Jaylen will have enough size to be our starting 3/4 combo that switches everything.

This is their second game back. Tatum played 20 minutes and Bolden 12 in that first game. Supposedly Giles has been practicing with the team but no word on when he's going to play for the first time.

this from the Duke Chronicle:

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The good news for the Blue Devils is that Tatum and Bolden showed flashes of what made them two of the most highly-touted recruits in the country a year ago. Although Tatum finished with 10 points on just 2-of-8 shooting from the floor in 20 minutes before cramping up, the swingman showed the ability to get to the basket at will in transition.

Bolden was the first player off the bench for Duke Saturday and was largely held in check outside of consecutive putbacks in the second half. The big man finished with seven points and five rebounds in just 12 minutes, but will likely see more time Tuesday.

Duke's being cautious with them as they should be.
Title: Re: Tuesday 12/6:Top 20 draft prospects playing on TV tonight (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: chilidawg on December 06, 2016, 11:42:10 PM
Caught the second half of the Duke game, Tatum was very impressive.  A more polished Jaylen Brown. Kennard continues to impress.  No Bolden.
Title: Re: Tuesday 12/6:Top 20 draft prospects playing on TV tonight (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: saltlover on December 07, 2016, 12:08:39 AM
Michigan has a pretty weak frontcourt.  If Jarrett Allen can't get it going against them tonight, we need to take him off this list.

I agree....Allen has looked weak (physically and mentally) and lost the times that I have seen him.

I didn't see his last game vs "Bama, but he started and only played 19 minutes with 0 RB, 0 Assts, 0 steals, 1 block, 3 TO and 4 fouls.

Another poor outing by Allen.  6 points and 4 boards in 3-6 shooting.  Also 4 TOs and fouled out.  Michigan's bigs, who both look like 2018 second rounders at best, thoroughly outplayed him.

Allen needs to be dropped from this thread.  He would be foolish to enter the draft the way he's played, and teams would be foolish to draft him.
Title: Re: Tuesday 12/6:Top 20 draft prospects playing on TV tonight (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on December 07, 2016, 12:20:19 AM
Michigan has a pretty weak frontcourt.  If Jarrett Allen can't get it going against them tonight, we need to take him off this list.

I agree....Allen has looked weak (physically and mentally) and lost the times that I have seen him.

I didn't see his last game vs "Bama, but he started and only played 19 minutes with 0 RB, 0 Assts, 0 steals, 1 block, 3 TO and 4 fouls.

Another poor outing by Allen.  6 points and 4 boards in 3-6 shooting.  Also 4 TOs and fouled out.  Michigan's bigs, who both look like 2018 second rounders at best, thoroughly outplayed him.

Allen needs to be dropped from this thread.  He would be foolish to enter the draft the way he's played, and teams would be foolish to draft him.

Thanks for the update...he's OUTTA HERE!!

Only game I could catch tonite was second half of Zona. Markkanen runs the floor well, has good court awareness and a silky smooth 3 🏀🏀🏀.

Rawle Alkins. Really impressed me on one play. Made a steal in the lane, started the break, fed a streaking player down court who missed a layup but Alkins ,trailing the play, skied and made a LOUD jam follow.

Alkins is physically very impressive for a freshman guard. 6'4", 225. Compared to aTyreke and Sir Lance by nbadraft.net.
Title: Re: Tuesday 12/6:Top 20 draft prospects playing on TV tonight (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: Csfan1984 on December 07, 2016, 12:22:29 AM
I was high on Allen but have to agree he is falling out of possible 2017 draft consideration.  He seems like he can still have moments in college but to go for the draft you have to dominate to some degree in college IMO. He just isn't ready.
Title: Re: Wednesday 12/7:Top 20 draft prospects playing on TV tonight (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on December 07, 2016, 09:30:18 AM
Potential Draftees on tonight:

UPDATE: Wednesday, 12/7

7 p.m.   FS1     Cal           Ivan Rabb

8 p.m.   SEC/ESPN (regional)   KY           Monk, Fox, Adebayo

8 p.m.   SEC/ESPN (regional)  Texas A&M   Robert Williams

9 p.m.   PAC12N   Xavier     Edmond Sumner

11 p.m. ESPN2     Washington   Markelle Fultz
Title: Re: Tuesday 12/6:Top 20 draft prospects playing on TV tonight (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: chilidawg on December 07, 2016, 10:05:34 AM
I was high on Allen but have to agree he is falling out of possible 2017 draft consideration.  He seems like he can still have moments in college but to go for the draft you have to dominate to some degree in college IMO. He just isn't ready.

DE agrees with you, they've taken him out of the 2017 Mock and put him in 2018.
Title: Re: Wednesday 12/7:Top 20 draft prospects playing on TV tonight (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: chilidawg on December 07, 2016, 10:10:14 AM
Washington against Gonzaga will be an opportunity to see Fultz against good competition.
Title: Re: Wednesday 12/7:Top 20 draft prospects playing on TV tonight (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: Denis998 on December 07, 2016, 11:28:39 PM
Tatum is the real deal. He is gonna go 2nd in the draft.
Title: Re: Wednesday 12/7:Top 20 draft prospects playing on TV tonight (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: alewilliam789 on December 07, 2016, 11:52:44 PM
Tatum is the real deal. He is gonna go 2nd in the draft.
Preach!! Tp
Title: Re: Wednesday 12/7:Top 20 draft prospects playing on TV tonight (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on December 08, 2016, 12:07:40 AM
Washington against Gonzaga will be an opportunity to see Fultz against good competition.

Washington is getting destroyed at the half by the Zags 47-22.

Fultz a non-factor. Some of these games he's starting to have the same impact as Ben Simmons at LSU....and that's not a compliment.

I've watched him a few times and really haven't been wowed.
Title: Re: Thursday 12/8: Top 20 draft prospects playing on TV tonight (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on December 08, 2016, 08:22:04 PM
Slim pickin's tonight, but only in quantity:

UPDATE: Thursday, December 8

9 p.m. ESPNU       Florida State    Jonathan Isaac (This kid could go top 5)
                                                 Dwayne Bacon
                                               
Title: Re: Wednesday 12/7:Top 20 draft prospects playing on TV tonight (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: KG Living Legend on December 08, 2016, 08:44:12 PM
Tatum is the real deal. He is gonna go 2nd in the draft.



 I called that first. You can take seconds though..
Title: Re: Thursday 12/8: Top 20 draft prospects playing on TV tonight (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: GreenShooter on December 09, 2016, 06:50:55 AM
Yeah, saw some of that Duke game on Tuesday. They handled Florida pretty easily, considering a couple of their top players didn't play well (Allen) or didn't play much (Bolden) or didn't play at all (Giles). They have a very experienced and deep back-court that can shoot the lights out so that'll take them deep in the tourney. That is one loaded, deep team. Kentucky-esque from 2 years ago.
Title: Re: Wednesday 12/7:Top 20 draft prospects playing on TV tonight (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: A Future of Stevens on December 09, 2016, 07:23:07 AM
Tatum is the real deal. He is gonna go 2nd in the draft.



 I called that first. You can take seconds though..

Honestly Im quickly falling in love with tatum. The guy is enormous for a wing, plays a herky jerky stylw, is a very good shooter, and is a good rebounder. Im starting to want him if we dont trade the pick. He could be our paul pierce in a few years.
Title: Re: Saturday 12/10 Top 20 draft prospects playing on TV tonight (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: tazzmaniac on December 10, 2016, 01:55:34 AM
12/10 Prospect watching

Noon  ESPN2 -   Arizona:  Markkanen

3:15   ESPN -  Kansas:  Josh Jackson

4:00   Big Ten   -  Indiana:  Bryant,  Anunoby (still out?)

4:00   ACC   -  NC State:  Dennis Smith

5:15   ESPN  -   Duke:  Tatum, Bolden, Allen, Giles (still out?)

5:30  FOX  -  Xavier:   Sumner

8:00  ESPN2  -  UCLA:   Ball

8:00  SEC  -  Texas A&M:  Robert Williams 

10:30  Pac12   -  California:  Rabb

Title: Re: Saturday 12/10 Top 20 draft prospects playing on TV tonight (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on December 10, 2016, 10:50:39 AM
12/10 Prospect watching

Noon  ESPN2 -   Arizona:  Markkanen

3:15   ESPN -  Kansas:  Josh Jackson

4:00   Big Ten   -  Indiana:  Bryant,  Anunoby (still out?)

4:00   ACC   -  NC State:  Dennis Smith

5:15   ESPN  -   Duke:  Tatum, Bolden, Allen, Giles (still out?)

5:30  FOX  -  Xavier:   Sumner

8:00  ESPN2  -  UCLA:   Ball

8:00  SEC  -  Texas A&M:  Robert Williams 

10:30  Pac12   -  California:  Rabb

TP, tazz, thanks for the update.
Four other players to keep an eye on:

in the Duke Game, Kennard is rising in the polls (very scary team when/if all healthy)

2 p.m. BTN  Michigan State  Miles Bridges

3:15   ESPN Kansas    Josh Jackson

7 p.m. CBSSN San Diego State Malik Pope

Title: Re: Saturday 12/10 Top 20 draft prospects playing on TV tonight (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: tazzmaniac on December 10, 2016, 02:46:40 PM
12/10 Prospect watching

Noon  ESPN2 -   Arizona:  Markkanen

3:15   ESPN -  Kansas:  Josh Jackson

4:00   Big Ten   -  Indiana:  Bryant,  Anunoby (still out?)

4:00   ACC   -  NC State:  Dennis Smith

5:15   ESPN  -   Duke:  Tatum, Bolden, Allen, Giles (still out?)

5:30  FOX  -  Xavier:   Sumner

8:00  ESPN2  -  UCLA:   Ball

8:00  SEC  -  Texas A&M:  Robert Williams 

10:30  Pac12   -  California:  Rabb

TP, tazz, thanks for the update.
Four other players to keep an eye on:

in the Duke Game, Kennard is rising in the polls (very scary team when/if all healthy)

2 p.m. BTN  Michigan State  Miles Bridges

3:15   ESPN Kansas    Josh Jackson

7 p.m. CBSSN San Diego State Malik Pope
Miles Bridges is out a few weeks with an ankle injury.  Looks like Harry Giles 1st game may be Dec 19. 
Title: Re: Saturday 12/10 Top 20 draft prospects playing on TV tonight (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: chilidawg on December 10, 2016, 08:20:36 PM
Duke crushes UNLV.   Tatum looked good, in a limited role.  Allen had a monster game.   Bolden didn't impress, he's a legit big dude, but looked slow and didn't flash much in the way of skill.
Title: Re: Saturday 12/10 Top 20 draft prospects playing on TV tonight (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on December 10, 2016, 08:51:19 PM
Big-time shoot out at Pauley pavilion.

UCLA 50-Michigan 50 at half.

Mich 12/16 from 3.

UCLA10-14.

More and more impressed by Ball.
Title: Re: Saturday 12/10 Top 20 draft prospects playing on TV tonight (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: cons on December 10, 2016, 10:12:26 PM
yeah put me on the ball bandwagon. wow. jason kidd esque w a better jumper.  hoping we get him big time.
Title: Re: Saturday 12/10 Top 20 draft prospects playing on TV tonight (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: tazzmaniac on December 10, 2016, 10:15:11 PM
Big-time shoot out at Pauley pavilion.

UCLA 50-Michigan 50 at half.

Mich 12/16 from 3.

UCLA10-14.

More and more impressed by Ball.
Need to add Leaf to the prospect list.  If he keeps playing as well as he has so far, he probably should put himself in this draft. 
Title: Re: Saturday 12/10 Top 20 draft prospects playing on TV tonight (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: chilidawg on December 11, 2016, 12:52:16 PM
Big-time shoot out at Pauley pavilion.

UCLA 50-Michigan 50 at half.

Mich 12/16 from 3.

UCLA10-14.

More and more impressed by Ball.
Need to add Leaf to the prospect list.  If he keeps playing as well as he has so far, he probably should put himself in this draft.

Leaf looked good against Kentucky too.  Aggressive and athletic with range.

Tacko Fall is pretty far down most mocks, but this video of him having a strong game against Villanova makes him looking intriguing.  He's just huge and moves pretty well.
Title: Re: Saturday 12/10 Top 20 draft prospects playing on TV tonight (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: hwangjini_1 on December 11, 2016, 01:07:17 PM
yeah put me on the ball bandwagon. wow. jason kidd esque w a better jumper.  hoping we get him big time.
i dont know. i watched only part of one game and when ball was called upon to play defense he was absolutely terrible. i mean, lost in the woods on switches, went for many fakes, and often just seemed to not really care about it.

it might be only time he was like that. but it worried me.
Title: Re: Saturday 12/10 Top 20 draft prospects playing on TV tonight (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: tazzmaniac on December 11, 2016, 01:36:14 PM
12/11 Prospect watching


3:00  ESPN  -  Kentucky:  Monk, Fox, Bam

4:00  ESPNU  -  Florida State:   Isaac



Title: Re: Saturday 12/10 Top 20 draft prospects playing on TV tonight (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on December 11, 2016, 05:30:28 PM
Dwayne Bacon lighting it up for FSU.

I like Isaac a lot, but Bacon has improved tremendously, and will go first round this year.

Last year, he was in the first round mocks for most of the year.  He pulled out of the draft to return to school. Not only did he show maturity by doing that, but he is gone from someone who was touted mainly for his  Athletic talents and worked very hard over the summer on many aspects of his game. He shot 26% from three point Land last year and is up to 40% this year.
Title: Re: Saturday 12/10 Top 20 draft prospects playing on TV tonight (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: A Future of Stevens on December 11, 2016, 05:43:16 PM
Dwayne Bacon lighting it up for FSU.

I like Isaac a lot, but Bacon has improved tremendously, and will go first round this year.

Last year, he was in the first round mocks for most of the year.  He pulled out of the draft to return to school. Not only did he show maturity by doing that, but he is gone from someone who was touted mainly for his  Athletic talents and worked very hard over the summer on many aspects of his game. He shot 26% from three point Land last year and is up to 40% this year.

That is awesome to hear about Bacon. Im just curious why staying in college is viewed as a sign of maturity? Because he recognized he is not ready and stayed? (Honestly curious about your view point) Because in a vacuum personally I view staying in college as not ready to test yourself in the real world against much better competition. I think it takes a ton of maturity to realize it will be tough, but to go to the league now because you have that kind of confidence in yourself.
Title: Re: Saturday 12/10 Top 20 draft prospects playing on TV tonight (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on December 11, 2016, 05:55:52 PM
Dwayne Bacon lighting it up for FSU.

I like Isaac a lot, but Bacon has improved tremendously, and will go first round this year.

Last year, he was in the first round mocks for most of the year.  He pulled out of the draft to return to school. Not only did he show maturity by doing that, but he is gone from someone who was touted mainly for his  Athletic talents and worked very hard over the summer on many aspects of his game. He shot 26% from three point Land last year and is up to 40% this year.

That is awesome to hear about Bacon. Im just curious why staying in college is viewed as a sign of maturity? Because he recognized he is not ready and stayed? (Honestly curious about your view point) Because in a vacuum personally I view staying in college as not ready to test yourself in the real world against much better competition. I think it takes a ton of maturity to realize it will be tough, but to go to the league now because you have that kind of confidence in yourself.

TP....interesting, thoughtful point of view.

Funny, the announcers were talking exactly about his recognizing that his game wasn't ready and how hard Bacon worked over the summer because " he didn't just want to make it to the next level, but to able to contribute substantially as soon as he got there."

They just said, after a Bacon 'and one, that he has become so much more efficient this year.

EDIT: but yeah, from a purely personal pov, anytime someone delays gratification for a greater reward down the road, that is indicative of maturity to me.
Title: Re: Tuesday 12/13 Top 20 draft prospects playing on TV tonight (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on December 13, 2016, 01:28:04 PM
UPDATE: Tuesday, 12/13

Slow night for prospects. Maybe final exam time?

7 p.m.   ESPNU     Jaron Blossomgame

10 p.m.  PAC-12N   Oregon (these guys will all likely be 2nd rounders, but                     
                                         fun to watch)
                             the 3 Bs: Boucher, Brooks and Bell
Title: Re: Tuesday 12/13 Top 20 draft prospects playing on TV tonight (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on December 13, 2016, 11:56:23 PM
Chris Boucher, 23/18/5 blocks tonight.

Big game coming up later this month vs UCLA.

Look for Oregon to give them a run for their money.
Title: Re: Saturday 12/10 Top 20 draft prospects playing on TV tonight (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: trickybilly on December 14, 2016, 02:16:59 AM
Dwayne Bacon lighting it up for FSU.

I like Isaac a lot, but Bacon has improved tremendously, and will go first round this year.

Last year, he was in the first round mocks for most of the year.  He pulled out of the draft to return to school. Not only did he show maturity by doing that, but he is gone from someone who was touted mainly for his  Athletic talents and worked very hard over the summer on many aspects of his game. He shot 26% from three point Land last year and is up to 40% this year.

That is awesome to hear about Bacon. Im just curious why staying in college is viewed as a sign of maturity? Because he recognized he is not ready and stayed? (Honestly curious about your view point) Because in a vacuum personally I view staying in college as not ready to test yourself in the real world against much better competition. I think it takes a ton of maturity to realize it will be tough, but to go to the league now because you have that kind of confidence in yourself.

Also, you need to cash in on your stock at its highest. If Bennett had stayed longer he probably wouldn't have got that behemoth rookie deal...
Title: Re: Wednesday 12/14: Top draft prospects playing on TV tonight (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on December 14, 2016, 05:41:22 PM
UPDATE:

Wednesday December 14

10:30    PAC-12N     UCLA      Ball, Leaf

11:00    ESPNU        Arizona   Markkanen, Alkins, Simmons
Title: Re: Saturday 12/10 Top 20 draft prospects playing on TV tonight (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: A Future of Stevens on December 14, 2016, 06:18:05 PM
Dwayne Bacon lighting it up for FSU.

I like Isaac a lot, but Bacon has improved tremendously, and will go first round this year.

Last year, he was in the first round mocks for most of the year.  He pulled out of the draft to return to school. Not only did he show maturity by doing that, but he is gone from someone who was touted mainly for his  Athletic talents and worked very hard over the summer on many aspects of his game. He shot 26% from three point Land last year and is up to 40% this year.

That is awesome to hear about Bacon. Im just curious why staying in college is viewed as a sign of maturity? Because he recognized he is not ready and stayed? (Honestly curious about your view point) Because in a vacuum personally I view staying in college as not ready to test yourself in the real world against much better competition. I think it takes a ton of maturity to realize it will be tough, but to go to the league now because you have that kind of confidence in yourself.

TP....interesting, thoughtful point of view.

Funny, the announcers were talking exactly about his recognizing that his game wasn't ready and how hard Bacon worked over the summer because " he didn't just want to make it to the next level, but to able to contribute substantially as soon as he got there."

They just said, after a Bacon 'and one, that he has become so much more efficient this year.

EDIT: but yeah, from a purely personal pov, anytime someone delays gratification for a greater reward down the road, that is indicative of maturity to me.

Very interesting TP. The more I think about it, the less I can say staying in college OR going to the nba are signs of maturity. For example, the point you said about working on your game shows maturity, while some players may stay because they dont want to change their future (sign of immaturity.)

On the other hand, going to the nba right away because you think you are a top dog and dont have to work on your game is a sign of immaturity. Or if you realize you have reached the peak of your college development, and you can only get better against much better players (even as a freshy), that is mature. Or say you grew up in poverty, your parents live in poverty, and you are projected as a first round pick. You decide that while you love college, your family needs you to escape the cycle of poverty, so you go pro. Worst case scenario you bust hard, and ONLY make a few million. Your family is most likely better off now (assuming you dont blow it like an idiot.) That is a mature decision.

Basically I think I cant say its immature or mature one way or the other. Anyone can make either decision, and their personal reasons are what make it mature or immature. TP for giving me fuel to think about this more.
Title: Re: Saturday 12/10 Top 20 draft prospects playing on TV tonight (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on December 14, 2016, 07:47:52 PM


Very interesting TP. The more I think about it, the less I can say staying in college OR going to the nba are signs of maturity. For example, the point you said about working on your game shows maturity, while some players may stay because they dont want to change their future (sign of immaturity.)

On the other hand, going to the nba right away because you think you are a top dog and dont have to work on your game is a sign of immaturity. Or if you realize you have reached the peak of your college development, and you can only get better against much better players (even as a freshy), that is mature. Or say you grew up in poverty, your parents live in poverty, and you are projected as a first round pick. You decide that while you love college, your family needs you to escape the cycle of poverty, so you go pro. Worst case scenario you bust hard, and ONLY make a few million. Your family is most likely better off now (assuming you dont blow it like an idiot.) That is a mature decision.

Basically I think I cant say its immature or mature one way or the other. Anyone can make either decision, and their personal reasons are what make it mature or immature. TP for giving me fuel to think about this more.

TP back atcha for the incisive, insightful post.

You got right to the core of the matter, inferring that motive and circumstance are far more determinative of maturity than specific acts in isolation. I agree.

Regarding Bacon, this from nbadraft.net prior to the 2015-2016 season. He was projected first round last year. Bacon probably didn't read this (or maybe he did) but it sure seems like that in retrospect that he took his Weaknesses (criticisms) to heart.

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Strengths: Bacon is a wiry and long guard that can get off the ground explosively ... Explosive leaper ... Is lightening quick in the open floor ... Active in all areas and can have an impact from anywhere on the court ... Excels when going through the lane ... Terrific at finishing at the rim ... Will find creative ways to get contested shots to drop ... Plays well above the rim ... Improved his jump shot over his high school career ... Can now effectively score the ball from many spots on the court ... Has deep range ... Has the traits to develop into a high-level defender ... At his best and most comfortable on offense with the ball in his hand ... Dribbles the ball like a point guard ... Has the ball on a string at all times ... Able to both start and finish any fast break ... Uses his size to look over the defense and spot open players in traffic ... Capable of getting into the lane whenever he wants too ... Uses his length to wreak havoc in passing lanes ... Athletic enough to stick with just about any player on the perimeter ...

Weaknesses: Needs to develop a greater understanding of the game ... Can score at will, but seems to be naive to some of the subtle nuances of basketball ... Has to become better at playing off the ball ... Also will need to develop a midrange game as he continues to move up in levels of play ... Capable of making deep threes, yet isn't as consistent of a shooter as one would expect ... Has a tendency to let his demeanor and attitude change depending on whether he is having a good game or not ... Often interacts too much with referees and opposing players ... Teeters the line between cocky and confident ... Needs to show front offices that he has the desire and love of the game to put in the necessary work to become a great player ...

Notes: Selected to 2015 McDonald's All-American and Jordan Brand Classic games ... Measured in at 6'5" 202 lbs with a 6'8" wingspan at 2013 Nike Elite 100 camp ... Looked to have noticeably filled out his frame during the 2015 high school all-star events ...

Overall: Bacon has the skill and size to make an immediate impact next year at Florida State. His main areas of development will come in terms of personality. He could probably suit up in a NBA game now and score, but needs to continue to sharpen his all around game. It will be interesting to see how he meshes with Xavier Rathan-Mayes at FSU next year, was always the alpha dog (even at Oak Hill Academy). If he is capable of putting everything together could become one of the best prospects in the entire 2016 class.

Brandon Jefferson 7/9/15

Title: Re: Thursday 12/15: Top draft prospects playing on TV tonight (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on December 15, 2016, 05:53:17 PM
UPDATE: Thursday, 12/15

Pretty slim pickings tonite:

7 p.m.     ESPNU   NC State     Smith, Yurtseven still suspended
Title: Re: Thursday 12/15: Top draft prospects playing on TV tonight (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on December 15, 2016, 07:04:00 PM
I was wrong.

Prized recruit, Yurtseven will play in his first NCAA game back from suspension foR NC State.
Title: Re: Thursday 12/15: Top draft prospects playing on TV tonight (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: tazzmaniac on December 16, 2016, 11:46:23 PM
Saturday 12/18  Prospect watching

Noon  ESPN2 -  Arizona: Markannen vs.  Texas A&M: Robert Williams

Noon  ESPN  -  Syracuse:  Lydon

1:30   FS2  -   Florida St:  Isaaac, Bacon

3:00   CBS  -   UCLA:   Ball, Leaf

5:00   BTN   -   Indiana:  Anunoby, Bryant

5:45   CBS   -   Kentucky:  Fox, Monk, Bam

7:00  ESPN2  -   Kansas:  Jackson

8:00   FS1  -  Xavier:  Sumner

8:00   Pac12   -   California:  Rabb



Title: Re: Thursday 12/15: Top draft prospects playing on TV tonight (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on December 17, 2016, 12:24:40 PM
Saturday 12/18  Prospect watching

Noon  ESPN2 -  Arizona: Markannen vs.  Texas A&M: Robert Williams

Noon  ESPN  -  Syracuse:  Lydon

1:30   FS2  -   Florida St:  Isaaac, Bacon

3:00   CBS  -   UCLA:   Ball, Leaf

5:00   BTN   -   Indiana:  Anunoby, Bryant

5:45   CBS   -   Kentucky:  Fox, Monk, Bam

7:00  ESPN2  -   Kansas:  Jackson

8:00   FS1  -  Xavier:  Sumner

8:00   Pac12   -   California:  Rabb

TP, tazz for the update.

Also, if anyone is up late and wants to watch college hoops, Oregon is playing at 11:00 EST on ESPN2;

4 fun guys to watch there are, who will most likely be 2nd round picks, but I can see Boucher sneaking into the first:

Boucher
Bell
Brooks
Dorsey.

This Oregon team is gaining steam and I look forward to them hosting UCLA later this month. I think that they have a shot a beating them.
Title: Re: Thursday 12/15: Top draft prospects playing on TV tonight (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: Chief Macho on December 17, 2016, 12:29:02 PM
dang,  robert williams,  ordinary name,  extraordinary prospect.  dudes a beast.
Title: Re: Thursday 12/15: Top draft prospects playing on TV tonight (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on December 17, 2016, 12:56:43 PM
 I am on the Williams bandwagon. I have been on it since the John Wooden classic title game versus UCLA A few weeks ago.  The guy can one  The floor, rebound like an animal and block shots with the fiesta competitive nature.

The other two guys that I like today who played for Arizona aside from Markkanen are Alkins and Simons, probably second rounders.
Title: Re: Thursday 12/15: Top draft prospects playing on TV tonight (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: tazzmaniac on December 17, 2016, 02:29:56 PM
I am on the Williams bandwagon. I have been on it since the John Wooden classic title game versus UCLA A few weeks ago.  The guy can one  The floor, rebound like an animal and block shots with the fiesta competitive nature.

The other two guys that I like today who played for Arizona aside from Markkanen are Alkins and Simons, probably second rounders.
Markannen and Williams looked really good today.  Didn't realize Alkins was just a freshmen.  He and Simmons would probably be better off staying at Arizona for another year.  Another potential prospect is Allonzo Trier.  He looked good in his freshman season but is now in some NCAA limbo.  If it goes on much longer, he ought to leave and go to the D League. 
Title: Re: Thursday 12/15: Top draft prospects playing on TV tonight (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: Chief Macho on December 17, 2016, 03:07:51 PM
all the zona kids could use another year.  simmons and markaanen need the weight room.  alkins needs to refine his skills.   saw them play in tucson recently.  alkins already has the nba body like richard jefferson.   

trier is a scorer. not sure what he does in the nba.
Title: Re: Thursday 12/15: Top draft prospects playing on TV tonight (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: tazzmaniac on December 17, 2016, 05:32:43 PM
all the zona kids could use another year.  simmons and markaanen need the weight room.  alkins needs to refine his skills.   saw them play in tucson recently.  alkins already has the nba body like richard jefferson.   

trier is a scorer. not sure what he does in the nba.
Markkanen will be a lottery pick.  Probably top 10.  He's not going to gain anything by staying at Arizona for another year.  He'll develop better with NBA training and coaching. 
Title: Re: Thursday 12/15: Top draft prospects playing on TV tonight (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: max215 on December 17, 2016, 07:34:09 PM
Malik Monk is absolutely unconscious.
Title: Re: Thursday 12/15: Top draft prospects playing on TV tonight (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: hwangjini_1 on December 18, 2016, 01:19:38 AM
Not sure exactly where to put this, here it is.

http://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/harry-giles-close-to-return-from-injury-says-duke-assistant-jeff-capel/

We may see Giles soon.
Title: Re: Thursday 12/15: Top draft prospects playing on TV tonight (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: GreenShooter on December 18, 2016, 10:36:06 AM
Not sure exactly where to put this, here it is.

http://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/harry-giles-close-to-return-from-injury-says-duke-assistant-jeff-capel/

We may see Giles soon.
It was already posted in the Harry Giles thread that he may make his debut on Monday. Thanks for that link though as there wasn't one in his thread.
Title: Re: Thursday 12/15: Top draft prospects playing on TV tonight (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: tazzmaniac on December 18, 2016, 11:58:23 AM
To recap yesterday, Kentucky versus North Carolina was a great game and really fun to watch.  Monk and Fox showed why they're top 10 prospects.  I'll give kudos to Justin Jackson who I haven't thought much of.  He really stepped up and hit some tough shots to offset Monk's onslaught.  Hopefully there will be a repeat in the final four. 

Arizona versus Texas A&M turned into a real nail biter at the end with Robert Williams being the key for A&M's comeback.  If he keeps improving, he could end up late lottery.  Markkanen showed all the skills for an NBA stretch 4.  If the Nets pick isn't top 5, I'd be happy taking him to replace Olynyk. 

Also got to watch Ball and Jackson perform well again and Tyler Lydon stepped up to have a very nice game. 
 
Title: Re: Sunday12/18: Top draft prospects playing on TV tonight (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: chilidawg on December 18, 2016, 12:11:12 PM
Yeah that Kentucky Carolina game was insane.  Thought NC was going to pull it out, but Monk hit a big shot.  Monk was unconscious, but I still come away even more impressed with Fox.  As you said, Jackson seems to be really emerging, he's always been an intriguing player because of his length and athleticism, finally starting to develop consistent offensive skills.
Title: Re: Thursday 12/15: Top draft prospects playing on TV tonight (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: tazzmaniac on December 18, 2016, 12:11:57 PM
Prospect viewing for 12/18 is rather slim. 

2:00  ACCN  -  NC State:  Dennis Smith

7:00  BTN   -   Michigan State:   Bridges

8:00   PAC12   -   Washington:  Fultz   

 
Title: Re: Sunday12/18: Top draft prospects playing on TV tonight (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on December 18, 2016, 12:12:26 PM
UPDATE:

Sunday 12/18

2 p.m. ACC/ESPN  NC ST               Smith

4 p.m ESPNU        Clemson            Blossomgame

8 p.m PAC-12       Washington        Fultz

EDIT : tazz, you beat me...haha...TP.....also I think Bridges still out
Title: Re: Sunday12/18: Top draft prospects playing on TV tonight (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: tazzmaniac on December 18, 2016, 12:26:23 PM
UPDATE:

Sunday 12/18

2 p.m. ACC/ESPN  NC ST               Smith

4 p.m ESPNU        Clemson            Blossomgame

8 p.m PAC-12       Washington        Fultz

EDIT : tazz, you beat me...haha...TP.....also I think Bridges still out
TP back at you.  I'd forgotten Bridges was out.
Title: Re: Sunday12/18: Top draft prospects playing on TV tonight (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: tazzmaniac on December 18, 2016, 12:58:37 PM
Yeah that Kentucky Carolina game was insane.  Thought NC was going to pull it out, but Monk hit a big shot.  Monk was unconscious, but I still come away even more impressed with Fox.  As you said, Jackson seems to be really emerging, he's always been an intriguing player because of his length and athleticism, finally starting to develop consistent offensive skills.
Most enjoyable complete game I've seen in quite a while.  Felt like every possession mattered which is unusual for a high scoring game.  Jackson hasn't stood out to me in the past.  Had a Jeff Green vibe.  After this performance, I wouldn't mind if we used the TWolves 2nd on him. 

Fox is my favorite player in this draft class.  He's not the best player or the best fit for our current roster but I'd be hyped if we got him.  Just so much fun to watch him.  Other than his 3pt shooting which can be worked on, he's everything I want a PG to be. 
Title: Re: Sunday12/18: Top draft prospects playing on TV tonight (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: tazzmaniac on December 19, 2016, 01:14:17 AM
Prospect watching for 12/19

2:00  ACCN  -   Florida State:  Isaac

7:00  ESPN2  -  Duke:  Tatum, Bolden, Giles (1st game back?), Allen ...

8:00  BTN   -   Indiana:  Anunoby, Bryant

Title: Re: Sunday12/18: Top draft prospects playing on TV tonight (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on December 19, 2016, 11:46:50 AM
Prospect watching for 12/19

2:00  ACCN  -   Florida State:  Isaac

7:00  ESPN2  -  Duke:  Tatum, Bolden, Giles (1st game back?), Allen ...

8:00  BTN   -   Indiana:  Anunoby, Bryant

TP...good head's up on early FSU game (2p.m. on a Monday?...weird)

Two other players to watch:

For FSU: Dwayne Bacon (their best player so far and projected first rounder in '16, he will go first round this year)

For Duke: Kennard (also their best player so far due to others' injuries)
Title: Re: Monday12/19: Top draft prospects playing on TV tonight (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on December 19, 2016, 07:22:23 PM
Harry Giles playing his first minutes of NCAA ball RIGHT NOW!!!!

EDIT: Looked very tentative in his first stint. (Understandable, I guess.)

Additional Edit: commentator at halftime said it looked like he was dragging his left leg, so maybe not ready. :(
Title: Re: Monday12/19: Top draft prospects playing on TV tonight (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: tazzmaniac on December 19, 2016, 11:11:11 PM
Harry Giles playing his first minutes of NCAA ball RIGHT NOW!!!!

EDIT: Looked very tentative in his first stint. (Understandable, I guess.)

Additional Edit: commentator at halftime said it looked like he was dragging his left leg, so maybe not ready. :(
That was rather anticlimactic.  Hopefully Giles will get some more playing time next time.

Prospect watching for 12/20 

6:30  FS1  -  Xavier:  Sumner

9:00  Pac12   -   Arizona:  Markkanen

 
Title: Re: Monday12/19: Top draft prospects playing on TV tonight (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: tarheelsxxiii on December 19, 2016, 11:26:27 PM
Harry Giles playing his first minutes of NCAA ball RIGHT NOW!!!!

EDIT: Looked very tentative in his first stint. (Understandable, I guess.)

Additional Edit: commentator at halftime said it looked like he was dragging his left leg, so maybe not ready. :(
That was rather anticlimactic.  Hopefully Giles will get some more playing time next time.

Prospect watching for 12/20 

6:30  FS1  -  Xavier:  Sumner

9:00  Pac12   -   Arizona:  Markkanen

Sounds horrible, but I lol'd.  Kid has blown out both knees by age 18.  Seems almost unprecedented for a talent of his caliber.  Plenty of healthy elite prospects to choose from this draft.  Would be an interesting scenario if BKN landed outside the top 3 and Giles slid, though...   
Title: Re: Monday12/19: Top draft prospects playing on TV tonight (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: GreenShooter on December 20, 2016, 08:19:31 AM
Harry Giles playing his first minutes of NCAA ball RIGHT NOW!!!!

EDIT: Looked very tentative in his first stint. (Understandable, I guess.)

Additional Edit: commentator at halftime said it looked like he was dragging his left leg, so maybe not ready. :(
That was rather anticlimactic.  Hopefully Giles will get some more playing time next time.

Prospect watching for 12/20 

6:30  FS1  -  Xavier:  Sumner

9:00  Pac12   -   Arizona:  Markkanen
I really hope we (BKN) don't slide down far enough to pick this kid. I'd rather pick one of the top guards than him. I still think he may return to school but he's too much of a Frank Kaminsky/Kelly Olynyk for my liking.
Title: Re: Monday12/19: Top draft prospects playing on TV tonight (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: tazzmaniac on December 20, 2016, 10:01:46 AM
Harry Giles playing his first minutes of NCAA ball RIGHT NOW!!!!

EDIT: Looked very tentative in his first stint. (Understandable, I guess.)

Additional Edit: commentator at halftime said it looked like he was dragging his left leg, so maybe not ready. :(
That was rather anticlimactic.  Hopefully Giles will get some more playing time next time.

Prospect watching for 12/20 

6:30  FS1  -  Xavier:  Sumner

9:00  Pac12   -   Arizona:  Markkanen
I really hope we (BKN) don't slide down far enough to pick this kid. I'd rather pick one of the top guards than him. I still think he may return to school but he's too much of a Frank Kaminsky/Kelly Olynyk for my liking.
I'd say Markkanen could replace Olynyk now and he's 6 years younger.  He's probably not a top 5 pick in this draft.  If the Nets pick slides out of the top 5 or so, I'd be fine with taking Markkanen and letting Olynyk walk.  However my preference in that scenario would probably be to take Fox.   
Title: Re: Monday12/19: Top draft prospects playing on TV tonight (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: tazzmaniac on December 21, 2016, 12:47:04 AM
Top prospect watching for 12/2012/21

6:00  ESPN2  -   Duke:  Giles (2nd game back), Tatum, Bolden, Allen ...

7:00  ESPN   -    Kentucky:   Fox, Monk, Bam   vs   Louisville    Fun rivalry game to watch

9:00  ESPNU   -   Clemson:   Blossomgame

10:00  ESPN2   -  California:  Rabb

11:00  PAC12    -   UCLA:   Ball, Leaf 



Title: Re: Monday12/19: Top draft prospects playing on TV tonight (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: GreenShooter on December 21, 2016, 06:54:55 AM
Top prospect watching for 12/20

6:00  ESPN2  -   Duke:  Giles (2nd game back), Tatum, Bolden, Allen ...

7:00  ESPN   -    Kentucky:   Fox, Monk, Bam   vs   Louisville    Fun rivalry game to watch

9:00  ESPNU   -   Clemson:   Blossomgame

10:00  ESPN2   -  California:  Rabb

11:00  PAC12    -   UCLA:   Ball, Leaf
You may want to change the date for these games :)
Title: Re: Monday12/19: Top draft prospects playing on TV tonight (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: tazzmaniac on December 21, 2016, 08:26:15 AM
Top prospect watching for 12/20

6:00  ESPN2  -   Duke:  Giles (2nd game back), Tatum, Bolden, Allen ...

7:00  ESPN   -    Kentucky:   Fox, Monk, Bam   vs   Louisville    Fun rivalry game to watch

9:00  ESPNU   -   Clemson:   Blossomgame

10:00  ESPN2   -  California:  Rabb

11:00  PAC12    -   UCLA:   Ball, Leaf
You may want to change the date for these games :)
Thanks.  TP
Title: Re: Wednesday 12/21: Top draft prospects playing on TV tonight (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on December 21, 2016, 09:57:52 AM
This on Giles:

Quote
“It’s just a matter of him being in shape,” Duke coach Mike Krzyzewski said. “He hasn’t played in 14 months.”

For Giles, playing as a reserve and in limited minutes might take time to get used to.

“Just trying to figure it out, trying to get used to the speed. It was fast, too,” he said. “Just trying to figure it out and get a feel for it.

“Frustrating because how it went. … It was terrible, my performance. I just have to get better. … That was shaking the rust off, getting the kinks out.”

http://www.foxsports.com/college-basketball/story/duke-freshman-giles-ready-for-more-action-vs-elon-122016

It's going to take a while.
Title: Re: Wednesday 12/21: Top draft prospects playing on TV tonight (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: tankcity! on December 21, 2016, 11:24:00 AM
This on Giles:

Quote
“It’s just a matter of him being in shape,” Duke coach Mike Krzyzewski said. “He hasn’t played in 14 months.”

For Giles, playing as a reserve and in limited minutes might take time to get used to.

“Just trying to figure it out, trying to get used to the speed. It was fast, too,” he said. “Just trying to figure it out and get a feel for it.

“Frustrating because how it went. … It was terrible, my performance. I just have to get better. … That was shaking the rust off, getting the kinks out.”

http://www.foxsports.com/college-basketball/story/duke-freshman-giles-ready-for-more-action-vs-elon-122016

It's going to take a while.

Hopefully it does so we can nab him by trading for another first round pick
Title: Re: Wednesday 12/21: Top draft prospects playing on TV tonight (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on December 21, 2016, 08:41:34 PM
Some interesting stuff on Duke game today.

Giles only played5-6 minutes,  A couple of rebounds a point and a couple of fouls.

Bolden only 3 minutes, zero stat-line.

Greyson Allen was involved in ANOTHER (3 or 4 now, I think) intentional tripping incident. Then he lost his mind like a spoiled, bully child on the bench after the call.....National TV game....lots of NBA scouts there....what are you thinking, man?

Kennard was the best player on the floor again, very efficient, but Tatum had 4 blocks and looks like an NBA player already. Top 3 for me right now.
Title: Re: Wednesday 12/21: Top draft prospects playing on TV tonight (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: tazzmaniac on December 21, 2016, 09:45:55 PM
Some interesting stuff on Duke game today.

Giles only played5-6 minutes,  A couple of rebounds a point and a couple of fouls.

Bolden only 3 minutes, zero stat-line.

Greyson Allen was involved in ANOTHER (3 or 4 now, I think) intentional tripping incident. Then he lost his mind like a spoiled, bully child on the bench after the call.....National TV game....lots of NBA scouts there....what are you thinking, man?

Kennard was the best player on the floor again, very efficient, but Tatum had 4 blocks and looks like an NBA player already. Top 3 for me right now.
Going to be a while before we can truly evaluate Giles.  He's clearly not comfortable on the court yet and there's little connection with his teammates. 

Don't want Allen even with our worst 2nd.  Coach K shouldn't have played him in the 2nd half.  He needs to be suspended for a couple games and given some counseling.   
Title: Re: Thursday 12/22: Top draft prospects playing on TV tonight (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on December 22, 2016, 10:04:07 AM
UPDATE: Thursday 12/22 (not much tonight, Cs on anyway)

Potential draftees to watch tonight:

7:00 ACC/ESPN    NC State      Dennis Smith

9:00 CBSSN.        Kansas.        Josh Jackson and 3 potential 2nd rounders: Mykhailiuk, Mason, Vick
Title: Re: Tuesday 12/27: Draft prospects playing on TV tonight (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on December 27, 2016, 09:27:09 AM
UPDATE: not much on tonight, conference pay starts in earnest tomorrow

Tuesday 12/27

7:00 ACCN    Syracuse     the two Tylers, Lydon and Roberson

9:00 ESPN    Mich State    Miles Bridges (doubtful)
Title: Re: Wednesday 12/28: Draft prospects playing on TV tonight (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on December 28, 2016, 10:39:59 AM
UPDATE: Wednesday 12/28: at long last, CONFERENCE PLAY

5 p.m.   ESPN2   Fla St      Isaac, Bacon


6:30     BTN       Indiana    Anunoby (questionable), Bryant

6:30     FS1        'Nova      Josh Hart

7:00     ACCN (regional) Clemson   Blossomgame

7:00     ACCN (regional) NC St       Smith

7:00     ESPNU    UNC      Justin Jackson

9:00     PAC12N  UCLA/Oregon  Ball, Leaf/Boucher, Brooks, Bell (I'm really looking forward to this game; don't count out Oregon)
Title: Re: Wednesday 12/28: Draft prospects playing on TV tonight (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: coffee425 on December 28, 2016, 10:47:00 AM
I see no reason why Harry Giles should even come out this year.
It's a loaded draft and his stock is at an all-time low. Take the year to rehab and dominate college basketball next year.
Title: Re: Wednesday 12/28: Draft prospects playing on TV tonight (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on December 28, 2016, 11:06:30 AM
I see no reason why Harry Giles should even come out this year.
It's a loaded draft and his stock is at an all-time low. Take the year to rehab and dominate college basketball next year.

TP.

With all the anticipation and hype of Giles even just playing a game, I think that even the possibility of what you suggest has been lost and so hasn't been considered by many.

In support of your argument, assuming that he works his way back to playing health, that would be a prudent decision, both health-wise and draft stock-wise.

The flip side is that if he doesn't come out and gets re-injured, he's done. Look at Noel and Embiid. Injured, but still got taken in the lottery. Some team will take a chance on Giles this year, especially if he falls to later lottery. That's guaranteed $$$ for Giles, with the only down-side being that he could've made more, if he stayed and IF he remained healthy.

Also, next year's draft is loaded with bigs.

Tough decision. But I think that the short-term guaranteed $$$ is too much to pass up.
Title: Re: Wednesday 12/28: Draft prospects playing on TV tonight (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: gift on December 28, 2016, 11:43:03 AM
I see no reason why Harry Giles should even come out this year.
It's a loaded draft and his stock is at an all-time low. Take the year to rehab and dominate college basketball next year.

Giles should absolutely leave after the year. Worst case scenario he's a first round, guaranteed contract pick right now (possibly still top 10 depending on how the year goes).

Worst case if he stays in school and gets injured again, he never has a professional basketball career.
Title: Re: Wednesday 12/28: Draft prospects playing on TV tonight (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on December 28, 2016, 09:34:22 PM
Ducks taking it to UCLA early.


Bruins coming back.

Great game as advertised.

Conference play is real college basketball. Finally!
Title: Re: Wednesday 12/28: Draft prospects playing on TV tonight (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: clevelandceltic on December 28, 2016, 09:52:09 PM
Next year might be loaded with bigs but a healthy Giles is a much better prospect than the guys next year.


I see no reason why Harry Giles should even come out this year.
It's a loaded draft and his stock is at an all-time low. Take the year to rehab and dominate college basketball next year.

TP.

With all the anticipation and hype of Giles even just playing a game, I think that even the possibility of what you suggest has been lost and so hasn't been considered by many.

In support of your argument, assuming that he works his way back to playing health, that would be a prudent decision, both health-wise and draft stock-wise.

The flip side is that if he doesn't come out and gets re-injured, he's done. Look at Noel and Embiid. Injured, but still got taken in the lottery. Some team will take a chance on Giles this year, especially if he falls to later lottery. That's guaranteed $$$ for Giles, with the only down-side being that he could've made more, if he stayed and IF he remained healthy.

Also, next year's draft is loaded with bigs.

Tough decision. But I think that the short-term guaranteed $$$ is too much to pass up.
Title: Re: Wednesday 12/28: Draft prospects playing on TV tonight (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on December 28, 2016, 09:55:37 PM
Next year might be loaded with bigs but a healthy Giles is a much better prospect than the guys next year.


I see no reason why Harry Giles should even come out this year.
It's a loaded draft and his stock is at an all-time low. Take the year to rehab and dominate college basketball next year.

TP.

With all the anticipation and hype of Giles even just playing a game, I think that even the possibility of what you suggest has been lost and so hasn't been considered by many.

In support of your argument, assuming that he works his way back to playing health, that would be a prudent decision, both health-wise and draft stock-wise.

The flip side is that if he doesn't come out and gets re-injured, he's done. Look at Noel and Embiid. Injured, but still got taken in the lottery. Some team will take a chance on Giles this year, especially if he falls to later lottery. That's guaranteed $$$ for Giles, with the only down-side being that he could've made more, if he stayed and IF he remained healthy.

Also, next year's draft is loaded with bigs.

Tough decision. But I think that the short-term guaranteed $$$ is too much to pass up.

I completely agree.

A healthy Giles is potentially a generational talent.

The healthy part is what may make a Giles go for the lesser, surer money this year, though.
Title: Re: Wednesday 12/28: Draft prospects playing on TV tonight (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: green_bballers13 on December 28, 2016, 10:19:20 PM
I think Giles is a top 10 pick without any production at Duke. I don't think he should pass up the opportunity to make millions to go back to Duke. If he plays well, he's still going to be a top 10 pick next year (prob top 3). If he doesn't play well and/or gets hurt, his stock would plummet further.
Title: Re: Wednesday 12/28: Draft prospects playing on TV tonight (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on December 28, 2016, 11:17:31 PM
Dillon Brooks hits a 3 to beat UCLA at the buzzer!!!

Wow.....just WOW!
Title: Re: Thursday 12/29: Draft prospects playing on TV tonight (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on December 29, 2016, 11:25:18 AM
UPDATE: Thursday 12/29

7:00 SECN       Texas A&M      Robert Williams

8:00 ESPN2      Kentucky        Fox, Monk, Adebayo
Title: Re: Wednesday 12/28: Draft prospects playing on TV tonight (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: chilidawg on December 29, 2016, 12:26:21 PM
Dillon Brooks hits a 3 to beat UCLA at the buzzer!!!

Wow.....just WOW!

Another great game.  Ball had an average game, disappeared for long stretches, but was dominant late in the game.  Very impressive in a couple of back to back isolation sets in the last couple of minutes.  Leaf showed flashes but wasn't that impressive.  UCLA as a whole looked disinterested in defense in the first half.  I think they think they can just out score everybody.
Title: Re: Friday 12/30: Draft prospects playing on TV tonight (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on December 30, 2016, 10:13:54 AM
UPDATE: Friday, December 30

Conference play continues.

6:00 BTN      Michigan State     Miles Bridges (doubtful)

9:00 ESPN2  Kansas                Josh Jackson, Mykhailiuk (possible 2nd rounder)

10 p.m. FS1 Oregon                Brooks, Dorsey, Boucher, Bell (2nd rounders)

11 p.m. PAC12N  UCLA            Ball, Leaf

11 p.m. ESPN2   Ariz/Cal          Markkanen, Rabb, (Alkins/Kobe Simmons 2nds?)
Title: Re: Friday 12/30: Draft prospects playing on TV tonight (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: tazzmaniac on December 31, 2016, 11:32:08 AM
Prospect game watching for 12/31

12:00  ESPN2   Duke: Giles, Tatum, Bolden, Kennard

12:00  ACCN    Clemson:  Blossomgame

12:30  CBS       Indiana:  Anunoby, Bryant

2:00    ESPNU   Florida St:  Isaac

4:30   ACCN     NC State:  Smith Jr

Title: Re: Saturday 12/31: Draft prospects playing on TV tonight (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on December 31, 2016, 11:57:41 AM
Prospect game watching for 12/31

12:00  ESPN2   Duke: Giles, Tatum, Bolden, Kennard

12:00  ACCN    Clemson:  Blossomgame

12:30  CBS       Indiana:  Anunoby, Bryant

2:00    ESPNU   Florida St:  Isaac

4:30   ACCN     NC State:  Smith Jr

TP, tazz, thanks for the update....glad they suspended Grayson Allen....lot of talent, hopefully it sinks in

some good stuff to watch today

Keep an eye on Bacon on FSU, and Josh Hart for 'Nova and Justin Jackson for UNC
Title: Re: Friday 12/30: Draft prospects playing on TV tonight (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: footey on December 31, 2016, 12:07:49 PM
Hope Giles gets PT.
Title: Re: Friday 12/30: Draft prospects playing on TV tonight (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on December 31, 2016, 01:28:47 PM
Hope Giles gets PT.

Not a ton of minutes for him in first half.

Think he had 4 pts 3 or 4 rebounds.

Not Duke's best game, so far. VaTech slapping them around. Kennard again looks like Duke's best player.
Title: Re: Saturday 12/31: Draft prospects playing on TV tonight (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: Bostoncelticsforlife7 on December 31, 2016, 01:33:41 PM
This is Giles best game so far. He has 4 points 5 rebounds and an assists in 2/5 shooting. He is having trouble playing defense without fouling tho
Title: Re: Friday 12/30: Draft prospects playing on TV tonight (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: Bostoncelticsforlife7 on December 31, 2016, 01:36:32 PM
Prospect game watching for 12/31

12:00  ESPN2   Duke: Giles, Tatum, Bolden, Kennard

12:00  ACCN    Clemson:  Blossomgame

12:30  CBS       Indiana:  Anunoby, Bryant

2:00    ESPNU   Florida St:  Isaac

4:30   ACCN     NC State:  Smith Jr
TP thanks for the update. Do you know what channel ACCN is on Bright House? Or do you have to buy the channel?
Title: Re: Friday 12/30: Draft prospects playing on TV tonight (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on December 31, 2016, 01:44:17 PM
Prospect game watching for 12/31

12:00  ESPN2   Duke: Giles, Tatum, Bolden, Kennard

12:00  ACCN    Clemson:  Blossomgame

12:30  CBS       Indiana:  Anunoby, Bryant

2:00    ESPNU   Florida St:  Isaac

4:30   ACCN     NC State:  Smith Jr
TP thanks for the update. Do you know what channel ACCN is on Bright House? Or do you have to buy the channel?

Maybe this will help:

http://www.syracuse.com/axeman/index.ssf/2016/09/how_to_find_acc_network_extra.html
Title: Re: Saturday 12/31: Draft prospects playing on TV tonight (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: BlackCeltic on December 31, 2016, 05:49:40 PM
Dennis Smith Jr. can't do anything against Miami's PG, who happens to be taking it to him on the offensive end as well. I like him but not with a top 5 draft pick.
Title: Re: Sunday 1/1: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on January 01, 2017, 10:34:21 AM
UPDATE: Sunday 1/1

Potential draftees playing today (Happy New Year)

12:30 ESPNU     Syracuse:   the two Tylers, Lydon and Roberson

5:00 CBSSN      SD State    Malik Pope

8:00 PAC12N     Arizona      Markkanen, and Alkins and Simmons (possible 2nds)

8:30 ESPNU      Washington Fultz (the crappy coach makes this a tough team to watch)

10:00 PAC12N  California     Rabb
Title: Re: Tuesday 1/3 : Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on January 03, 2017, 11:22:17 AM
UPDATE: Tuesday 1/3

Conference play in full swing:

7 p.m. ESPN      Indiana          Anunoby, Bryant

7 p.m. ESPN2    Clemson         Blossomgame

9 p.m. ESPN     Kentucky and A&M   Fox, Adebayo, Monk, Robert Williams

9 p.m. ESPN2   Kansas            Josh Jackson, Mykhailiuk
Title: Re: Tuesday 1/3 : Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: Bostoncelticsforlife7 on January 03, 2017, 02:47:32 PM
UPDATE: Tuesday 1/3

Conference play in full swing:

7 p.m. ESPN      Indiana          Anunoby, Bryant

7 p.m. ESPN2    Clemson         Blossomgame

9 p.m. ESPN     Kentucky and A&M   Fox, Adebayo, Monk, Robert Williams

9 p.m. ESPN2   Kansas            Josh Jackson, Mykhailiuk
TP these post are really helpful thanks
Title: Re: Tuesday 1/3 : Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: Bostoncelticsforlife7 on January 03, 2017, 10:09:24 PM
Has anyone been watching the Kansas game? Josh Jackson has 15 points 5 assists and 5 rebounds at halftime
Title: Re: Tuesday 1/3 : Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on January 03, 2017, 10:19:10 PM
Has anyone been watching the Kansas game? Josh Jackson has 15 points 5 assists and 5 rebounds at halftime

Thanks...that's the better game to watch right now.

Kentucky laying a whooping on A&M 60-32.
Title: Re: Wednesday 1/4 : Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on January 04, 2017, 12:36:43 PM
UPDATE: Wednesday 1/4

Lot of action and draft prospects on tonight folks!!

6:30 BTN    Mich St      Miles Bridges (he's  back)

6:30 FS1    'Nova         Josh Hart

7:00 ESPN2 Duke         Tatum, Giles, Bolden, Kennard (Allen still suspended)

7:00 ACCN  Syracuse    Tylers Louden and Roberson

8:00 ESPNN Baylor/IO St  Johnathan Motley/Monte Morris

9:00 ACCN  NC St         Smith Jr/ Yurtseven

9:00 ESPN2 Wash/Ore   Fultz/Boucher, Brooks, Bell, Dorsey

11:00 ESPN2 SD St/Nevada   Malik Pope/Cam Oliver

Title: Re: Wednesday 1/4 : Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: Bostoncelticsforlife7 on January 04, 2017, 01:49:53 PM
Giles and fultz both televised!?!! This is going to be fun especially with me being the biggest Giles fanboy
Title: Re: Wednesday 1/4 : Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: GreenShooter on January 04, 2017, 02:13:09 PM
UPDATE: Wednesday 1/4

Lot of action and draft prospects on tonight folks!!

6:30 BTN    Mich St      Miles Bridges (he's  back)

6:30 FS1    'Nova         Josh Hart

7:00 ESPN2 Duke         Tatum, Giles, Bolden, Kennard (Allen still suspended)

7:00 ACCN  Syracuse    Tylers Louden and Roberson

8:00 ESPNN Baylor/IO St  Johnathan Motley/Monte Morris

9:00 ACCN  NC St         Smith Jr/ Yurtseven

9:00 ESPN2 Wash/Ore   Fultz/Boucher, Brooks, Bell, Dorsey

11:00 ESPN2 SD St/Nevada   Malik Pope/Cam Oliver
I like that you added Kennard to the Duke lineup. He is moving up the draft board, I think. Was hoping to obtain a bottom 3rd of 1st round pick and scoop him up but now it may not happen.
Again, thanks for these lists!
Title: Re: Wednesday 1/4 : Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: footey on January 04, 2017, 02:16:07 PM
I know he is on no one's radar, but that Kennard kid is a very good basketball player.  He may struggle at the NBA level, but I have yet to see a more complete college player this season. Very impressive skill set. Love his game.
Title: Re: Wednesday 1/4 : Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: CelticGuardian on January 04, 2017, 02:23:47 PM
I know he is on no one's radar, but that Kennard kid is a very good basketball player.  He may struggle at the NBA level, but I have yet to see a more complete college player this season. Very impressive skill set. Love his game.

Yeah he's been keeping that Duke team a float. I feel their prospects have been dissappointing so far aside from Kennard. Grayson Allen is just a ghost right now, is Tatum injured?
Title: Re: Wednesday 1/4 : Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: Bostoncelticsforlife7 on January 04, 2017, 02:33:15 PM
I know he is on no one's radar, but that Kennard kid is a very good basketball player.  He may struggle at the NBA level, but I have yet to see a more complete college player this season. Very impressive skill set. Love his game.

Yeah he's been keeping that Duke team a float. I feel their prospects have been dissappointing so far aside from Kennard. Grayson Allen is just a ghost right now, is Tatum injured?
No Tatum has really impressed me. He just got back like 5 or 6 games ago and he's already playing great. Giles is coming along too he hasn't played in 1 and a half years so a little rust is to be expected
Title: Re: Wednesday 1/4 : Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on January 04, 2017, 06:30:51 PM
UPDATE: Wednesday 1/4

Lot of action and draft prospects on tonight folks!!

6:30 BTN    Mich St      Miles Bridges (he's  back)

6:30 FS1    'Nova         Josh Hart

7:00 ESPN2 Duke         Tatum, Giles, Bolden, Kennard (Allen still suspended)

7:00 ACCN  Syracuse    Tylers Louden and Roberson

8:00 ESPNN Baylor/IO St  Johnathan Motley/Monte Morris

9:00 ACCN  NC St         Smith Jr/ Yurtseven

9:00 ESPN2 Wash/Ore   Fultz/Boucher, Brooks, Bell, Dorsey

11:00 ESPN2 SD St/Nevada   Malik Pope/Cam Oliver
I like that you added Kennard to the Duke lineup. He is moving up the draft board, I think. Was hoping to obtain a bottom 3rd of 1st round pick and scoop him up but now it may not happen.
Again, thanks for these lists!

You're welcome. I enjoy doing it, especially now that conference play has started and things have heated up.

I obviously agree with you and footey about Kennard. TP to both of you for your observations. In the beginning of the thread, I didn't include him, but in every Duke game that I have watched, he has been the best player on the floor. Maybe not the best prospect, but definitely the best basketball player.

I think he'll go in the 20s and I think Josh Hart will be a first rounder too.
Title: Re: Wednesday 1/4 : Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: Bostoncelticsforlife7 on January 04, 2017, 06:45:07 PM
Ughhh Grayson Allen is playing, probably means less minutes for Giles...
Title: Re: Wednesday 1/4 : Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on January 04, 2017, 07:08:54 PM
Ughhh Grayson Allen is playing, probably means less minutes for Giles...

Wow, only one game suspension for the tripping tantrum thrower.

That being said, I think Allen is underrated. He just needs to stop being an idiot
Title: Re: Wednesday 1/4 : Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: saltlover on January 04, 2017, 07:21:43 PM
Ughhh Grayson Allen is playing, probably means less minutes for Giles...

Wow, only one game suspension for the tripping tantrum thrower.

That being said, I think Allen is underrated. He just needs to stop being an idiot

Accordingly, he's appropriately rated.
Title: Re: Wednesday 1/4 : Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: Bostoncelticsforlife7 on January 04, 2017, 07:44:53 PM
Man Dukes rotation are weird. Giles get subbed in and plays 2 minutes then gets subbed out, comes back 2 minutes later and played 2 minutes then gets subbed out again, weird...

That might just be how college teams play, I don't usually watch college ball  a lot so I wouldn't know
Title: Re: Wednesday 1/4 : Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: saltlover on January 04, 2017, 08:30:54 PM
Man Dukes rotation are weird. Giles get subbed in and plays 2 minutes then gets subbed out, comes back 2 minutes later and played 2 minutes then gets subbed out again, weird...

That might just be how college teams play, I don't usually watch college ball  a lot so I wouldn't know

That's not how most teams play.  I assume it's to help Giles build back up his endurance, since he's been out for so long.
Title: Re: Wednesday 1/4 : Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: Bostoncelticsforlife7 on January 04, 2017, 08:57:28 PM
Harry Giles double double  8)

10 points 12 rebounds
Title: Re: Wednesday 1/4 : Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on January 04, 2017, 09:46:56 PM
Miles Bridges back after missing 7 games with high ankle sprain.

Izzo was cautious and only played him 17 minutes. He got 6 and 6 though with 2 LOUD jams.

Here's one:

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/video?gameId=400915074


i'm glad to see the explosiveness is still there

Lottery talent.
Title: Re: Wednesday 1/4 : Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: max215 on January 04, 2017, 10:32:01 PM
I'm all in on Markelle Fultz. What an incredible player.
Title: Re: Wednesday 1/4 : Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: The One on January 04, 2017, 10:54:19 PM
Miles Bridges back after missing 7 games with high ankle sprain.

Izzo was cautious and only played him 17 minutes. He got 6 and 6 though with 2 LOUD jams.

Here's one:

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/video?gameId=400915074


i'm glad to see the explosiveness is still there

Lottery talent.

I agree...plus he has a pro body now.

And thanks for all the updates!!
Title: Re: Wednesday 1/4 : Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on January 04, 2017, 10:59:02 PM
I'm all in on Markelle Fultz. What an incredible player.

Great skills, no doubt. It's too bad he plays for such a crappy team. Just like LSU and Simmons last year, we will never get to see him in any meaningful games since his team doesn't have a prayer in the world of making the NCAAs.

 Big-time players make big-time plays in crunch time. The closest that Fultz has gotten to that this year was New Year's night playing against rival Washington state   He had two drives at the end of the game that were crucial but he couldn't finish.

Again, the talent is there. I would just like to see him perform in some pressure situations.

Title: Re: Wednesday 1/4 : Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: footey on January 04, 2017, 11:01:31 PM
I'm all in on Markelle Fultz. What an incredible player.

Great skills, no doubt. It's too bad he plays for such a crappy team. Just like LSU and Simmons last year, we will never get to see him in any meaningful games since his team doesn't have a prayer in the world of making the NCAAs.

 Big-time players make big-time plays in crunch time. The closest that Fultz has gotten to that this year was New Year's night playing against rival Washington state   He had two drives at the end of the game that were crucial but he couldn't finish.

Again, the talent is there. I would just like to see him perform in some pressure situations.

Don't they play UCLA a couple of times?
Title: Re: Wednesday 1/4 : Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on January 04, 2017, 11:05:31 PM
Miles Bridges back after missing 7 games with high ankle sprain.

Izzo was cautious and only played him 17 minutes. He got 6 and 6 though with 2 LOUD jams.

Here's one:

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/video?gameId=400915074


i'm glad to see the explosiveness is still there

Lottery talent.

I agree...plus he has a pro body now.

And thanks for all the updates!!

A pro's body and he's only 18 years old...scary.

Check out his strengths video on draftexpress:

http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Miles-Bridges-81785/

And you're welcome on the updates👍. Labor of love.
Title: Re: Wednesday 1/4 : Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on January 04, 2017, 11:10:46 PM
I'm all in on Markelle Fultz. What an incredible player.

Great skills, no doubt. It's too bad he plays for such a crappy team. Just like LSU and Simmons last year, we will never get to see him in any meaningful games since his team doesn't have a prayer in the world of making the NCAAs.

 Big-time players make big-time plays in crunch time. The closest that Fultz has gotten to that this year was New Year's night playing against rival Washington state   He had two drives at the end of the game that were crucial but he couldn't finish.

Again, the talent is there. I would just like to see him perform in some pressure situations.

Don't they play UCLA a couple of times?

Yeah, you're right. February 4th and march 1st. Zona twice too.

But they lost to YALE!?!? Hard for me to really gauge the guy on a team like this.
Title: Re: Wednesday 1/4 : Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: chilidawg on January 04, 2017, 11:21:32 PM
I'm all in on Markelle Fultz. What an incredible player.

Great skills, no doubt. It's too bad he plays for such a crappy team. Just like LSU and Simmons last year, we will never get to see him in any meaningful games since his team doesn't have a prayer in the world of making the NCAAs.

 Big-time players make big-time plays in crunch time. The closest that Fultz has gotten to that this year was New Year's night playing against rival Washington state   He had two drives at the end of the game that were crucial but he couldn't finish.

Again, the talent is there. I would just like to see him perform in some pressure situations.

Don't they play UCLA a couple of times?

Yeah, you're right. February 4th and march 1st. Zona twice too.

But they lost to YALE!?!? Hard for me to really gauge the guy on a team like this.

The skills certainly are there, but he's playing in a totally non competitive environment.  Lost by 20+ at home tonight to a good Oregon team.  Simmons was far more impressive to my memory, and LSU was at least competitive in the SEC.  His ability to finish at the rim is excellent, but to me the athleticism isn't truly elite, and he just doesn't seem to be making his team better.  As others have said, it's just tough to get a really good read on him.
Title: Re: Wednesday 1/4 : Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: Bostoncelticsforlife7 on January 04, 2017, 11:59:50 PM
I'm all in on Markelle Fultz. What an incredible player.

Great skills, no doubt. It's too bad he plays for such a crappy team. Just like LSU and Simmons last year, we will never get to see him in any meaningful games since his team doesn't have a prayer in the world of making the NCAAs.

 Big-time players make big-time plays in crunch time. The closest that Fultz has gotten to that this year was New Year's night playing against rival Washington state   He had two drives at the end of the game that were crucial but he couldn't finish.

Again, the talent is there. I would just like to see him perform in some pressure situations.
TP My thoughts exactly. I am I'm impressed with the talent but I want to see if he has the clutch gene.
Title: Re: Thursday 1/5 : Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on January 05, 2017, 11:07:18 AM
UPDATE: Thursday 1/5

Light schedule tonight:


9:00  ESPN       UCLA/California          Ball, Leaf/Rabb

10:00  FS1       Arizona                     Markkanen, Alkins, Kobe Simmons
Title: Re: Thursday 1/5 : Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: tazzmaniac on January 05, 2017, 11:29:49 AM
UPDATE: Thursday 1/5

Light schedule tonight:


9:00  ESPN       UCLA/California          Ball, Leaf/Rabb

10:00  FS1       Arizona                     Markkanen, Alkins, Kobe Simmons
I don't know if I can handle listening to Walton two nights in a row.  Especially with UCLA playing. 
Title: Re: Thursday 1/5 : Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on January 05, 2017, 09:21:00 PM
Ball and Leaf on right now looking like they deserve their lofty draft status.

Leaf with a big-time poster.
Title: Re: Thursday 1/5 : Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: Bostoncelticsforlife7 on January 07, 2017, 02:11:39 AM
So it on espn.com it says that the Giles game tomorrow at 2 is not televised. Does anyone know if there is a way to watch it?
Title: Re: Thursday 1/5 : Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: knuckleballer on January 07, 2017, 02:19:36 AM
So it on espn.com it says that the Giles game tomorrow at 2 is not televised. Does anyone know if there is a way to watch it?

It will be on NESN.
Title: Re: Thursday 1/5 : Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: tazzmaniac on January 07, 2017, 02:58:37 AM
The prospect watching cup runneth over for 1/7

1:30  CBS  -  Texas A&M:  Williams

2:00  ACCN  -  Duke:  Giles, Tatum, Bolden, Kennard, Allen

2:00  ACCN  -  Florida State:  Isaac, Bacon

2:30   FS1   -  Xavier:  Sumner

3:00  ESPNU  -   Clemson:  Blossomgame

5:00  ESPNU  -   Indiana:  Anunoby, Bryant

7:15  ESPN2  -  Kansas:   Jackson

7:30  FS1  -  Villanova:  Hart

8:00  ESPN  -   NC State:  Smith Jr

8:30  SECN  -   Kentucky:   Fox, Monk, Bam

9:30  PAC12  -  Arizona:  Markkanen
Title: Re: Thursday 1/5 : Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: Bostoncelticsforlife7 on January 07, 2017, 04:20:36 AM
So it on espn.com it says that the Giles game tomorrow at 2 is not televised. Does anyone know if there is a way to watch it?

It will be on NESN.
Do you know what channel that is on if you have bright house?
Title: Re: Thursday 1/5 : Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on January 07, 2017, 08:43:26 AM
The prospect watching cup runneth over for 1/7

1:30  CBS  -  Texas A&M:  Williams

2:00  ACCN  -  Duke:  Giles, Tatum, Bolden, Kennard, Allen

2:00  ACCN  -  Florida State:  Isaac, Bacon

2:30   FS1   -  Xavier:  Sumner

3:00  ESPNU  -   Clemson:  Blossomgame

5:00  ESPNU  -   Indiana:  Anunoby, Bryant

7:15  ESPN2  -  Kansas:   Jackson

7:30  FS1  -  Villanova:  Hart

8:00  ESPN  -   NC State:  Smith Jr

8:30  SECN  -   Kentucky:   Fox, Monk, Bam

9:30  PAC12  -  Arizona:  Markkanen

TP, tazz, thanks for the update, and congrats on 2nd star!!

A few more prospects that we can check out today:

1:00 ESPN           Mich State:   Miles Bridges (2nd game back)

1:00 ACCN          Syracuse:    Tyler Lydon

3:00  PAC12N     Washington:    Fultz

And here's a bonus, under the radar Big East beast who will likely get drafted this year, if he comes out:

2:00  CBSN       Creighton:     Justin Patton (blossoming and worth a look)
Title: Re: Thursday 1/5 : Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: tazzmaniac on January 07, 2017, 01:28:07 PM
The prospect watching cup runneth over for 1/7

1:30  CBS  -  Texas A&M:  Williams

2:00  ACCN  -  Duke:  Giles, Tatum, Bolden, Kennard, Allen

2:00  ACCN  -  Florida State:  Isaac, Bacon

2:30   FS1   -  Xavier:  Sumner

3:00  ESPNU  -   Clemson:  Blossomgame

5:00  ESPNU  -   Indiana:  Anunoby, Bryant

7:15  ESPN2  -  Kansas:   Jackson

7:30  FS1  -  Villanova:  Hart

8:00  ESPN  -   NC State:  Smith Jr

8:30  SECN  -   Kentucky:   Fox, Monk, Bam

9:30  PAC12  -  Arizona:  Markkanen

TP, tazz, thanks for the update, and congrats on 2nd star!!

A few more prospects that we can check out today:

1:00 ESPN           Mich State:   Miles Bridges (2nd game back)

1:00 ACCN          Syracuse:    Tyler Lydon

3:00  PAC12N     Washington:    Fultz

And here's a bonus, under the radar Big East beast who will likely get drafted this year, if he comes out:

2:00  CBSN       Creighton:     Justin Patton (blossoming and worth a look)
TP on the additions and bonus prospect.  If all these possibilities actually come out, we could get a nice addition with the TWolves 2nd. 
Title: Re: Saturday 1/7 : Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: Bostoncelticsforlife7 on January 07, 2017, 01:51:00 PM
Can some one please help me I don't have watch ESPN on my phone because my dad doesn't know our bright house username and password but I really want to watch the Giles game is there any way I can watch it on tv?
Title: Re: Saturday 1/7 : Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: Bostoncelticsforlife7 on January 07, 2017, 01:53:39 PM
Nvm I found it on my guide haha
Title: Re: Saturday 1/7 : Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: Bostoncelticsforlife7 on January 07, 2017, 02:31:25 PM
I hate Dukes new coach, he doesn't play Giles at all
Title: Re: Saturday 1/7 : Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: CelticsFan166 on January 07, 2017, 03:29:13 PM
Giles beasting now
Title: Re: Saturday 1/7 : Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: Phantom255x on January 07, 2017, 05:57:17 PM
Giles had 12 points and 5 rebounds in 24 minutes

Tatum had 22 points and 6 rebounds in 30 minutes.

Good showings today and Giles is getting more minutes and putting up numbers now. Giles did have 5 fouls today.
Title: Re: Saturday 1/7 : Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: SHAQATTACK on January 07, 2017, 06:01:24 PM
I've been watching OB Wan nobe ..of Indiana
Title: Re: Saturday 1/7 : Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: SHAQATTACK on January 07, 2017, 06:03:35 PM
Giles had 12 points and 5 rebounds in 24 minutes

Tatum had 22 points and 6 rebounds in 30 minutes.

Good showings today and Giles is getting more minutes and putting up numbers now. Giles did have 5 fouls today.

I'm impressed with Giles .....he has the same kinda Davis and Embiid skills
Title: Re: Saturday 1/7 : Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: Bostoncelticsforlife7 on January 07, 2017, 07:42:37 PM
Giles had 12 points and 5 rebounds in 24 minutes

Tatum had 22 points and 6 rebounds in 30 minutes.

Good showings today and Giles is getting more minutes and putting up numbers now. Giles did have 5 fouls today.
Yeah I was really impressed with Giles today. Last game all of his points were on lobs, put back layups, and a wide open dunk. Today he showed he can be dominant in the post which is really good for his stock if he can continue to improve on that.
Title: Re: Saturday 1/7 : Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: tazzmaniac on January 08, 2017, 12:37:48 AM
Games for 1/8

1:00   ESPN  -  NC State:  Smith Jr

8:00   FS1   -  UCLA:   Ball, Leaf

10:00   ESPNU   -   California:  Rabb

Title: Re: Sunday 1/8 : Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on January 08, 2017, 03:05:41 PM
Justin Patton of Creighton vs Providence yesterday: 20/6/3/1.


Runs the floor, passes, rebounds, blocks shots: late bloomer who has a good chance to go in first round.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yUHINxNHWnc
Title: Re: Sunday 1/8 : Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: chilidawg on January 08, 2017, 08:37:43 PM
Watching UCLA now and man, I still think Ball is the best player I've seen.  They're playing an overmatched Stanford team, but he's just dominating at both ends.  Most engaged I've seen him defensively, he's contesting and blocking shots and getting steals.  At the offensive end he's hitting NBA 3's, making full court passes, finishing alley oops and facilitating the offense.  Pretty impressive.
Title: Re: Sunday 1/8 : Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: KG Living Legend on January 08, 2017, 08:52:14 PM
Watching UCLA now and man, I still think Ball is the best player I've seen.  They're playing an overmatched Stanford team, but he's just dominating at both ends.  Most engaged I've seen him defensively, he's contesting and blocking shots and getting steals.  At the offensive end he's hitting NBA 3's, making full court passes, finishing alley oops and facilitating the offense.  Pretty impressive.



 That's a Tp C Dawg. Anytime you mention my boy Lonzo the best player in the draft.  I secretly would take him over Fultz.

 He's an inspiring basketball player. How can you not Love this kids game.
Title: Re: Sunday 1/8 : Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: trickybilly on January 08, 2017, 08:56:32 PM
Justin Patton of Creighton vs Providence yesterday: 20/6/3/1.


Runs the floor, passes, rebounds, blocks shots: late bloomer who has a good chance to go in first round.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yUHINxNHWnc

Could be a nice Minny second rounder option. See how he looks in Summer League..

Reminds me of younger slimmer Bynum
Title: Re: Sunday 1/8 : Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: tazzmaniac on January 10, 2017, 02:09:07 AM
Prospect watching for 1/10

7:00  ESPN  -  Kentucky:  Monk, Fox, Bam

7:00  FS1  -  Xavier:  Sumner  vs  Villanova:  Hart

7:00  ESPNU  -  Syracuse:  Lydon

8:00  ACCN  -  Duke:  Giles, Tatum, Bolden, Kennard, Allen vs Florida State:  Isaac, Bacon

9:00  ESPN  -  Indiana:  Anunoby, Bryant

9:00  ESPN2  -  Kansas:  Jackson
Title: Re: Sunday 1/8 : Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: chilidawg on January 10, 2017, 12:40:39 PM
I wish we got the ACC channel so I could watch Duke-FSU, that'll be some great prospect watching.
Title: Re: Sunday 1/8 : Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: lantinm on January 10, 2017, 01:37:58 PM
Chilidawg - if you get ESPN through your cable provider, then just download WatchESPN on your phone and sign in with your cable login and password and then you can watch the game. WatchESPN is affiliated with the ACC Network. I already looked at the ESPN listings for tonight and the Duke game will be shown on the app. You can also Chromecast from the WatchESPN app too.


Edit: You can also just go to ESPN's homepage and click on "Watch" and then sign in with your cable login and password and watch that way too.
Title: Re: Sunday 1/8 : Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on January 10, 2017, 01:48:37 PM
Chilldawg - if you get ESPN through your cable provider, then just download WatchESPN on your phone and sign in with your cable login and password and then you can watch the game. WatchESPN is affiliated with the ACC Network. I already looked at the ESPN listings for tonight and the Duke game will be shown on the app. You can also Chromecast from the WatchESPN app too.

TP, latinm for the respose and 'dawg for the question and tazz for the update.

Some people have pm'd me about that and I should have put it in this thread.
Title: Re: Sunday 1/8 : Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: chilidawg on January 10, 2017, 02:36:31 PM
Thanks for the tip, will give that a try.  Can you do the WatchEspn thing on a laptop?
Title: Re: Sunday 1/8 : Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: lantinm on January 10, 2017, 02:44:13 PM
Thanks for the tip, will give that a try.  Can you do the WatchEspn thing on a laptop?


Yup.  Once you sign in with your cable provider's login and password, you'll then see a tab for "Live" and "Upcoming".  Keep in mind that certain regions are blacked out.  Click on the game and it will show you a blackout map (if blackout restrictions apply).
Title: Re: Sunday 1/8 : Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: tazzmaniac on January 10, 2017, 10:24:23 PM
Thanks for the tip, will give that a try.  Can you do the WatchEspn thing on a laptop?


Yup.  Once you sign in with your cable provider's login and password, you'll then see a tab for "Live" and "Upcoming".  Keep in mind that certain regions are blacked out.  Click on the game and it will show you a blackout map (if blackout restrictions apply).
They have replays of games too.  I would assume those aren't subject to blackout. 
Title: Re: Sunday 1/8 : Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: Phantom255x on January 10, 2017, 10:30:20 PM
Giles had only 5 points and 2 rebounds in just 10 minutes.

Tatum had 21 points and 4 rebounds in 38 minutes.

Duke lost though.
Title: Re: Sunday 1/8 : Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: mr. dee on January 10, 2017, 10:32:04 PM
I think Duke is just being cautious with Giles. With March Madness coming up, they'll need him to win the championship.
Title: Re: Sunday 1/8 : Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on January 11, 2017, 10:31:45 AM
UPDATEE: Wednesday 1/11

Potential draftees on tonight:

7:00 BTN        Mich St.         Miles Bridges

8:00 ESPN2     UNC              Justin Jackson

8:30 SECN      A&M              Robert Williams

9:00 ACCN      NC St            DSJ

9:00 FS1        Creighton       Justin Patton (his star is rising)
Title: Re: Sunday 1/8 : Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on January 11, 2017, 10:47:26 AM
Giles had only 5 points and 2 rebounds in just 10 minutes.

Tatum had 21 points and 4 rebounds in 38 minutes.

Duke lost though.

I think Duke is just being cautious with Giles. With March Madness coming up, they'll need him to win the championship.

I agree.

I think that he's being real cautious himself, too and looks real tentative out there, almost non-existent. Guy's a ghost right now.
Title: Re: Sunday 1/8 : Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: Phantom255x on January 11, 2017, 11:14:07 AM
Giles had only 5 points and 2 rebounds in just 10 minutes.

Tatum had 21 points and 4 rebounds in 38 minutes.

Duke lost though.

I think Duke is just being cautious with Giles. With March Madness coming up, they'll need him to win the championship.

I agree.

I think that he's being real cautious himself, too and looks real tentative out there, almost non-existent. Guy's a ghost right now.

Oh yeah, no doubt, I'm aware they are being cautious with Giles.

I'm getting real impressed with Tatum though. Fultz/Ball are the ideal Top-2 but Tatum has looked real solid this season.
Title: Re: Sunday 1/8 : Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: tazzmaniac on January 11, 2017, 07:18:24 PM
Giles had only 5 points and 2 rebounds in just 10 minutes.

Tatum had 21 points and 4 rebounds in 38 minutes.

Duke lost though.

I think Duke is just being cautious with Giles. With March Madness coming up, they'll need him to win the championship.

I agree.

I think that he's being real cautious himself, too and looks real tentative out there, almost non-existent. Guy's a ghost right now.

Oh yeah, no doubt, I'm aware they are being cautious with Giles.

I'm getting real impressed with Tatum though. Fultz/Ball are the ideal Top-2 but Tatum has looked real solid this season.
Giles looks quite bad.  His defense is terrible and he's justifiably a foul magnet.  When he's running the court, he looks more like a long distance runner in cruise mode rather than a basketball player.  Right now, he's not big enough or strong enough to play center.  He's a PF who hasn't shown any outside shooting.  He's done a little bit offensively but the only real positive is that he appears to be a good rebounder.  At this point, I would not use a top 10 pick on him in this strong draft. 
Title: Re: Sunday 1/8 : Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: clevelandceltic on January 11, 2017, 08:11:21 PM
Giles had only 5 points and 2 rebounds in just 10 minutes.

Tatum had 21 points and 4 rebounds in 38 minutes.

Duke lost though.

I think Duke is just being cautious with Giles. With March Madness coming up, they'll need him to win the championship.

I agree.

I think that he's being real cautious himself, too and looks real tentative out there, almost non-existent. Guy's a ghost right now.

Oh yeah, no doubt, I'm aware they are being cautious with Giles.

I'm getting real impressed with Tatum though. Fultz/Ball are the ideal Top-2 but Tatum has looked real solid this season.
Giles looks quite bad.  His defense is terrible and he's justifiably a foul magnet.  When he's running the court, he looks more like a long distance runner in cruise mode rather than a basketball player.  Right now, he's not big enough or strong enough to play center.  He's a PF who hasn't shown any outside shooting.  He's done a little bit offensively but the only real positive is that he appears to be a good rebounder.  At this point, I would not use a top 10 pick on him in this strong draft.

He looked horrible last night but Im not going to use that game as a barometer. He hasnt played in awhile. When I look at him, I look to see what would work if he never was better than this. Now I will say this, I dont think you can really eval him til the end of next month. I think you can only look for certain things that could work. He is two months behind everyone else and it can be seen in his D and conditioning.
Title: Re: Sunday 1/8 : Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: tazzmaniac on January 12, 2017, 02:22:37 AM
Giles had only 5 points and 2 rebounds in just 10 minutes.

Tatum had 21 points and 4 rebounds in 38 minutes.

Duke lost though.

I think Duke is just being cautious with Giles. With March Madness coming up, they'll need him to win the championship.

I agree.

I think that he's being real cautious himself, too and looks real tentative out there, almost non-existent. Guy's a ghost right now.

Oh yeah, no doubt, I'm aware they are being cautious with Giles.

I'm getting real impressed with Tatum though. Fultz/Ball are the ideal Top-2 but Tatum has looked real solid this season.
Giles looks quite bad.  His defense is terrible and he's justifiably a foul magnet.  When he's running the court, he looks more like a long distance runner in cruise mode rather than a basketball player.  Right now, he's not big enough or strong enough to play center.  He's a PF who hasn't shown any outside shooting.  He's done a little bit offensively but the only real positive is that he appears to be a good rebounder.  At this point, I would not use a top 10 pick on him in this strong draft.

He looked horrible last night but Im not going to use that game as a barometer. He hasnt played in awhile. When I look at him, I look to see what would work if he never was better than this. Now I will say this, I dont think you can really eval him til the end of next month. I think you can only look for certain things that could work. He is two months behind everyone else and it can be seen in his D and conditioning.
I've seen 3 or 4 of the games he's played and this was representative of his play.  I agree that he's behind the curve but other than his rebounding I'm not seeing anything that projects that well considering the hype.  I watched his DraftExpress strengths video and its not that impressive.  He seems to have center skills in a PF body at this point.  Not sure who his upside projection would be. 
Title: Re: Thursday 1/12 : Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on January 12, 2017, 10:22:23 AM
UPDATE: Thursday, 1/12


7:00 ACCN     Clemson       Blossomgame

9:00 FS1        Was/Cal       Fultz/Rabb

9:00 ESPN2    Arizona        Markkanen, Alkins, Kobe Simmons

11:00 FS1      UCLA           Ball, Leaf
Title: Re: Sunday 1/8 : Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: The One on January 12, 2017, 10:27:41 AM
Giles had only 5 points and 2 rebounds in just 10 minutes.

Tatum had 21 points and 4 rebounds in 38 minutes.

Duke lost though.

I think Duke is just being cautious with Giles. With March Madness coming up, they'll need him to win the championship.

I agree.

I think that he's being real cautious himself, too and looks real tentative out there, almost non-existent. Guy's a ghost right now.

Oh yeah, no doubt, I'm aware they are being cautious with Giles.

I'm getting real impressed with Tatum though. Fultz/Ball are the ideal Top-2 but Tatum has looked real solid this season.
Giles looks quite bad.  His defense is terrible and he's justifiably a foul magnet.  When he's running the court, he looks more like a long distance runner in cruise mode rather than a basketball player.  Right now, he's not big enough or strong enough to play center.  He's a PF who hasn't shown any outside shooting.  He's done a little bit offensively but the only real positive is that he appears to be a good rebounder.  At this point, I would not use a top 10 pick on him in this strong draft.

He looked horrible last night but Im not going to use that game as a barometer. He hasnt played in awhile. When I look at him, I look to see what would work if he never was better than this. Now I will say this, I dont think you can really eval him til the end of next month. I think you can only look for certain things that could work. He is two months behind everyone else and it can be seen in his D and conditioning.
I've seen 3 or 4 of the games he's played and this was representative of his play.  I agree that he's behind the curve but other than his rebounding I'm not seeing anything that projects that well considering the hype.  I watched his DraftExpress strengths video and its not that impressive.  He seems to have center skills in a PF body at this point.  Not sure who his upside projection would be.

He's struggling now, understandably.

But his body of work before college...Goodman mentioned that he's the second best prospect he's seen in the last decade.
Title: Re: Thursday 1/12 : Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: chilidawg on January 12, 2017, 06:26:33 PM
For the Dennis Smith fans, here's a good video of Joel Berry thoroughly out playing him in a Carolina rout:

http://www.draftexpress.com/article/Joel-Berry-vs-NC-State---Matchup-Video-5777/

Followed that up with an unimpressive performance in a loss to Boston College.

Title: Re: Thursday 1/12 : Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on January 12, 2017, 06:32:17 PM
For the Dennis Smith fans, here's a good video of Joel Berry thoroughly out playing him in a Carolina rout:

http://www.draftexpress.com/article/Joel-Berry-vs-NC-State---Matchup-Video-5777/

Followed that up with an unimpressive performance in a loss to Boston College.

From the times that I have seen him, I haven't been that impressed either, and I doubt that Ainge was impressed at Conte with him. Smith didn't stand out at all. And irrespective of his hops, another barely 6 foot point guard!?!?.... no thanks
Title: Re: Sunday 1/8 : Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: clevelandceltic on January 12, 2017, 06:47:45 PM
Giles had only 5 points and 2 rebounds in just 10 minutes.

Tatum had 21 points and 4 rebounds in 38 minutes.

Duke lost though.

I think Duke is just being cautious with Giles. With March Madness coming up, they'll need him to win the championship.

I agree.

I think that he's being real cautious himself, too and looks real tentative out there, almost non-existent. Guy's a ghost right now.

Oh yeah, no doubt, I'm aware they are being cautious with Giles.

I'm getting real impressed with Tatum though. Fultz/Ball are the ideal Top-2 but Tatum has looked real solid this season.
Giles looks quite bad.  His defense is terrible and he's justifiably a foul magnet.  When he's running the court, he looks more like a long distance runner in cruise mode rather than a basketball player.  Right now, he's not big enough or strong enough to play center.  He's a PF who hasn't shown any outside shooting.  He's done a little bit offensively but the only real positive is that he appears to be a good rebounder.  At this point, I would not use a top 10 pick on him in this strong draft.

He looked horrible last night but Im not going to use that game as a barometer. He hasnt played in awhile. When I look at him, I look to see what would work if he never was better than this. Now I will say this, I dont think you can really eval him til the end of next month. I think you can only look for certain things that could work. He is two months behind everyone else and it can be seen in his D and conditioning.
I've seen 3 or 4 of the games he's played and this was representative of his play.  I agree that he's behind the curve but other than his rebounding I'm not seeing anything that projects that well considering the hype.  I watched his DraftExpress strengths video and its not that impressive.  He seems to have center skills in a PF body at this point.  Not sure who his upside projection would be.

I dont mean to argue but I really cant let this stand. His game right now is no where close to what is was before. The only thing that is close is his rebounding and even that isnt what is was in terms of his effort. I say this having watched games from his freshman year, his junior year early, his junior year late, his U19 games, his AAU games, and bits of his mixtapes which I dont put high value on.

You say what is translatable. The guy has great hands and that can be seen in his ability to grab boards right now. His ability to put the ball on the deck an go the full length of the floor and finish with authority is something of high value. He can shoot from 18ft but he has a flat shot.

Some of these things he has yet to show at the college level. Again I dont worry about seeing any of this until the end of next month. If he comes close to what he was I dont see how he gets passed on for some of these players if he is healthy.
Title: Re: Thursday 1/12 : Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: clevelandceltic on January 12, 2017, 06:51:50 PM
For all these players its about seeing them over time so what did they look like in game 1 vs 30. Or if you have seen them in HS like Ainge then 1 vs 70. Remember not all skills are shown in particular games on stretches of games or even in the college season at all.
Title: Re: Thursday 1/12 : Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: tazzmaniac on January 14, 2017, 12:19:21 AM
Prospect watching for 1/14

12:00  ACCN   -   Clemson:  Blossomgame

12:00  ESPN   -   Duke:  Giles, Tatum, Bolden, Kennard, Allen

12:00  FS1   -    Villanova:   Hart

1:00    FS2   -    Creighton:   Patton

1:00    CBS   -   Texas A&M:   Williams

2:00    FS1   -    Xavier:   Sumner

2:00    ESPN2   -   Kansas:   Jackson

2:00    ESPN    -    Florida State:   Isaac, Bacon

4:00    ESPN    -    Kentucky:   Fox, Monk, Bam

4:00    ACCN    -    Syracuse:   Lydon

4:00    PAC12  -   California:  Rabb

6:00    PAC12   -   UCLA:   Ball, Leaf

8:00    PAC12   -   Washington:   Fultz


Title: Re: Thursday 1/12 : Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on January 14, 2017, 09:19:29 AM
Prospect watching for 1/14

12:00  ACCN   -   Clemson:  Blossomgame

12:00  ESPN   -   Duke:  Giles, Tatum, Bolden, Kennard, Allen

12:00  FS1   -    Villanova:   Hart

1:00    FS2   -    Creighton:   Patton

1:00    CBS   -   Texas A&M:   Williams

2:00    FS1   -    Xavier:   Sumner

2:00    ESPN2   -   Kansas:   Jackson

2:00    ESPN    -    Florida State:   Isaac, Bacon

4:00    ESPN    -    Kentucky:   Fox, Monk, Bam

4:00    ACCN    -    Syracuse:   Lydon

4:00    PAC12  -   California:  Rabb

6:00    PAC12   -   UCLA:   Ball, Leaf

8:00    PAC12   -   Washington:   Fultz

TP, tazz, thanks for the update!

Lots of watching today.

Looking forward to watching Patton play, but not so much vs Truman State?
Title: Re: Thursday 1/12 : Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: tazzmaniac on January 14, 2017, 12:39:59 PM
Prospect watching for 1/14

12:00  ACCN   -   Clemson:  Blossomgame

12:00  ESPN   -   Duke:  Giles, Tatum, Bolden, Kennard, Allen

12:00  FS1   -    Villanova:   Hart

1:00    FS2   -    Creighton:   Patton

1:00    CBS   -   Texas A&M:   Williams

2:00    FS1   -    Xavier:   Sumner

2:00    ESPN2   -   Kansas:   Jackson

2:00    ESPN    -    Florida State:   Isaac, Bacon

4:00    ESPN    -    Kentucky:   Fox, Monk, Bam

4:00    ACCN    -    Syracuse:   Lydon

4:00    PAC12  -   California:  Rabb

6:00    PAC12   -   UCLA:   Ball, Leaf

8:00    PAC12   -   Washington:   Fultz

TP, tazz, thanks for the update!

Lots of watching today.

Looking forward to watching Patton play, but not so much vs Truman State?
Only have seen Patton in one game so far but looks interesting.  Want to compare him to Williams who i really like. 
Title: Re: Sunday 1/8 : Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: Ilikesports17 on January 14, 2017, 12:57:41 PM
Giles had only 5 points and 2 rebounds in just 10 minutes.

Tatum had 21 points and 4 rebounds in 38 minutes.

Duke lost though.

I think Duke is just being cautious with Giles. With March Madness coming up, they'll need him to win the championship.

I agree.

I think that he's being real cautious himself, too and looks real tentative out there, almost non-existent. Guy's a ghost right now.

Oh yeah, no doubt, I'm aware they are being cautious with Giles.

I'm getting real impressed with Tatum though. Fultz/Ball are the ideal Top-2 but Tatum has looked real solid this season.
Giles looks quite bad.  His defense is terrible and he's justifiably a foul magnet.  When he's running the court, he looks more like a long distance runner in cruise mode rather than a basketball player.  Right now, he's not big enough or strong enough to play center.  He's a PF who hasn't shown any outside shooting.  He's done a little bit offensively but the only real positive is that he appears to be a good rebounder.  At this point, I would not use a top 10 pick on him in this strong draft.

He looked horrible last night but Im not going to use that game as a barometer. He hasnt played in awhile. When I look at him, I look to see what would work if he never was better than this. Now I will say this, I dont think you can really eval him til the end of next month. I think you can only look for certain things that could work. He is two months behind everyone else and it can be seen in his D and conditioning.
I've seen 3 or 4 of the games he's played and this was representative of his play.  I agree that he's behind the curve but other than his rebounding I'm not seeing anything that projects that well considering the hype.  I watched his DraftExpress strengths video and its not that impressive.  He seems to have center skills in a PF body at this point.  Not sure who his upside projection would be.

He's struggling now, understandably.

But his body of work before college...Goodman mentioned that he's the second best prospect he's seen in the last decade.
yeah, but that body of work is pretty limited and two major knee injuries ago.

Cliff Alexander was the #2 prospect his year and he didnt have debilitating injuries and he went undrafted.
Title: Re: Sunday 1/8 : Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: clevelandceltic on January 14, 2017, 01:04:05 PM
Giles had only 5 points and 2 rebounds in just 10 minutes.

Tatum had 21 points and 4 rebounds in 38 minutes.

Duke lost though.

I think Duke is just being cautious with Giles. With March Madness coming up, they'll need him to win the championship.

I agree.

I think that he's being real cautious himself, too and looks real tentative out there, almost non-existent. Guy's a ghost right now.

Oh yeah, no doubt, I'm aware they are being cautious with Giles.

I'm getting real impressed with Tatum though. Fultz/Ball are the ideal Top-2 but Tatum has looked real solid this season.
Giles looks quite bad.  His defense is terrible and he's justifiably a foul magnet.  When he's running the court, he looks more like a long distance runner in cruise mode rather than a basketball player.  Right now, he's not big enough or strong enough to play center.  He's a PF who hasn't shown any outside shooting.  He's done a little bit offensively but the only real positive is that he appears to be a good rebounder.  At this point, I would not use a top 10 pick on him in this strong draft.

He looked horrible last night but Im not going to use that game as a barometer. He hasnt played in awhile. When I look at him, I look to see what would work if he never was better than this. Now I will say this, I dont think you can really eval him til the end of next month. I think you can only look for certain things that could work. He is two months behind everyone else and it can be seen in his D and conditioning.
I've seen 3 or 4 of the games he's played and this was representative of his play.  I agree that he's behind the curve but other than his rebounding I'm not seeing anything that projects that well considering the hype.  I watched his DraftExpress strengths video and its not that impressive.  He seems to have center skills in a PF body at this point.  Not sure who his upside projection would be.

He's struggling now, understandably.

But his body of work before college...Goodman mentioned that he's the second best prospect he's seen in the last decade.
yeah, but that body of work is pretty limited and two major knee injuries ago.

Cliff Alexander was the #2 prospect his year and he didnt have debilitating injuries and he went undrafted.

Did you see Cliff Alexander in HS? I did and the two arent comparable. Giles much more skilled than Alexander.

Look at the Skal that played at Kentucky. He was #2 as well. It all depends on the skillset of the player.
Title: Re: Sunday 1/8 : Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: Ilikesports17 on January 14, 2017, 01:23:20 PM
Giles had only 5 points and 2 rebounds in just 10 minutes.

Tatum had 21 points and 4 rebounds in 38 minutes.

Duke lost though.

I think Duke is just being cautious with Giles. With March Madness coming up, they'll need him to win the championship.

I agree.

I think that he's being real cautious himself, too and looks real tentative out there, almost non-existent. Guy's a ghost right now.

Oh yeah, no doubt, I'm aware they are being cautious with Giles.

I'm getting real impressed with Tatum though. Fultz/Ball are the ideal Top-2 but Tatum has looked real solid this season.
Giles looks quite bad.  His defense is terrible and he's justifiably a foul magnet.  When he's running the court, he looks more like a long distance runner in cruise mode rather than a basketball player.  Right now, he's not big enough or strong enough to play center.  He's a PF who hasn't shown any outside shooting.  He's done a little bit offensively but the only real positive is that he appears to be a good rebounder.  At this point, I would not use a top 10 pick on him in this strong draft.

He looked horrible last night but Im not going to use that game as a barometer. He hasnt played in awhile. When I look at him, I look to see what would work if he never was better than this. Now I will say this, I dont think you can really eval him til the end of next month. I think you can only look for certain things that could work. He is two months behind everyone else and it can be seen in his D and conditioning.
I've seen 3 or 4 of the games he's played and this was representative of his play.  I agree that he's behind the curve but other than his rebounding I'm not seeing anything that projects that well considering the hype.  I watched his DraftExpress strengths video and its not that impressive.  He seems to have center skills in a PF body at this point.  Not sure who his upside projection would be.

He's struggling now, understandably.

But his body of work before college...Goodman mentioned that he's the second best prospect he's seen in the last decade.
yeah, but that body of work is pretty limited and two major knee injuries ago.

Cliff Alexander was the #2 prospect his year and he didnt have debilitating injuries and he went undrafted.

Did you see Cliff Alexander in HS? I did and the two arent comparable. Giles much more skilled than Alexander.

Look at the Skal that played at Kentucky. He was #2 as well. It all depends on the skillset of the player.
No I havent seen nearly any pre-college tape for anyone.

Skillset is very important thats a good point. I still think its important to note that the evaluation of  Giles is based on roughly half of a high school career. Thats not even accounting for the explosion-sapping injuries he faced.

Title: Re: Sunday 1/8 : Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: clevelandceltic on January 14, 2017, 01:38:42 PM
Giles had only 5 points and 2 rebounds in just 10 minutes.

Tatum had 21 points and 4 rebounds in 38 minutes.

Duke lost though.

I think Duke is just being cautious with Giles. With March Madness coming up, they'll need him to win the championship.

I agree.

I think that he's being real cautious himself, too and looks real tentative out there, almost non-existent. Guy's a ghost right now.

Oh yeah, no doubt, I'm aware they are being cautious with Giles.

I'm getting real impressed with Tatum though. Fultz/Ball are the ideal Top-2 but Tatum has looked real solid this season.
Giles looks quite bad.  His defense is terrible and he's justifiably a foul magnet.  When he's running the court, he looks more like a long distance runner in cruise mode rather than a basketball player.  Right now, he's not big enough or strong enough to play center.  He's a PF who hasn't shown any outside shooting.  He's done a little bit offensively but the only real positive is that he appears to be a good rebounder.  At this point, I would not use a top 10 pick on him in this strong draft.

He looked horrible last night but Im not going to use that game as a barometer. He hasnt played in awhile. When I look at him, I look to see what would work if he never was better than this. Now I will say this, I dont think you can really eval him til the end of next month. I think you can only look for certain things that could work. He is two months behind everyone else and it can be seen in his D and conditioning.
I've seen 3 or 4 of the games he's played and this was representative of his play.  I agree that he's behind the curve but other than his rebounding I'm not seeing anything that projects that well considering the hype.  I watched his DraftExpress strengths video and its not that impressive.  He seems to have center skills in a PF body at this point.  Not sure who his upside projection would be.

He's struggling now, understandably.

But his body of work before college...Goodman mentioned that he's the second best prospect he's seen in the last decade.
yeah, but that body of work is pretty limited and two major knee injuries ago.

Cliff Alexander was the #2 prospect his year and he didnt have debilitating injuries and he went undrafted.

Did you see Cliff Alexander in HS? I did and the two arent comparable. Giles much more skilled than Alexander.

Look at the Skal that played at Kentucky. He was #2 as well. It all depends on the skillset of the player.
No I havent seen nearly any pre-college tape for anyone.

Skillset is very important thats a good point. I still think its important to note that the evaluation of  Giles is based on roughly half of a high school career. Thats not even accounting for the explosion-sapping injuries he faced.
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Well you also have to consider his AAU and Team USA career. Alexander was very much a run and jump big who was 6'8. Alexander could block shots really run and jump however his skill level wasnt the highest. His understanding of rebounding is not on the level of Giles even right now. Giles has the ability to board outside his area. Giles could also put the ball on the floor and showed signs of an outside shot. I cant say the same for Alexander.
Title: Re: Saturday 1/14 : Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: SHAQATTACK on January 14, 2017, 01:43:47 PM
Giles

You gotta take him
Title: Re: Saturday 1/14 : Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: mr. dee on January 15, 2017, 06:08:47 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aTivQVuhqs0

The guy is so tough. Never afraid to absorb contact. I don't care if he can't shoot. He have the winning mentality and toughness of Smart.

edit: He's playing Smart's team. LOL
Title: Re: Sunday 1/15 : Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on January 15, 2017, 09:02:38 AM
UPDATE: Sunday  1/15

12:00 BTN      Indiana      Anunoby (3), Bryant (31)

1:30   CBS     Mich St      Miles Bridges (22)

6:30  ESPN     NC St        DSJ (4), Yurtseven (14)

Numbers next to names are jersey numbers; makes it easier to jump right in.
Title: Re: Saturday 1/14 : Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: Bostoncelticsforlife7 on January 15, 2017, 01:29:32 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aTivQVuhqs0

The guy is so tough. Never afraid to absorb contact. I don't care if he can't shoot. He have the winning mentality and toughness of Smart.

edit: He's playing Smart's team. LOL
Jackson is definitely though but I don't think he is anywhere close to smart.
Title: Re: Saturday 1/14 : Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: SHAQATTACK on January 15, 2017, 01:46:22 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aTivQVuhqs0

The guy is so tough. Never afraid to absorb contact. I don't care if he can't shoot. He have the winning mentality and toughness of Smart.

edit: He's playing Smart's team. LOL
Jackson is definitely though but I don't think he is anywhere close to smart.

Yup....Smart is a special type personality ,  like kG ,  insane competitor. 
Title: Re: Saturday 1/14 : Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: hwangjini_1 on January 15, 2017, 02:19:53 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aTivQVuhqs0

The guy is so tough. Never afraid to absorb contact. I don't care if he can't shoot. He have the winning mentality and toughness of Smart.

edit: He's playing Smart's team. LOL
i understand your points. jackson maybe THE best all around athlete and basketball player in this draft, except for his shooting. it is really, really bad.

if the celtics take jackson, there is really no way the team can put smart and jackson out there together since both, right now, are poor shooters.
Title: Re: Saturday 1/14 : Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: mr. dee on January 15, 2017, 07:14:34 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aTivQVuhqs0

The guy is so tough. Never afraid to absorb contact. I don't care if he can't shoot. He have the winning mentality and toughness of Smart.

edit: He's playing Smart's team. LOL
i understand your points. jackson maybe THE best all around athlete and basketball player in this draft, except for his shooting. it is really, really bad.

if the celtics take jackson, there is really no way the team can put smart and jackson out there together since both, right now, are poor shooters.

Celtics can just switch Smart with AB off the bench since Smart can play both with both IT and AB. Jackson will just replace Smart as the playmaker off the bench. Unlike Smart, he takes more smarter (no pun intended) shot selection and capable of playing off the ball. If people wanted Simmons, I can't see how they don't want Jackson who is much more competitive.

He's arguably a better playmaker than Fultz or Ball.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kaP4QCK1pZs

I can see the bench next season with decent spacing. Just pick your poison

Yabu
Jackson
Brown
Kelly (If resigned)
AB
Zizic
Green (If resigned)

Plus, i'm a bit more worried about both Fultz and Ball. Draftexpress labelled "Casual Approach" for both of those kids. That's the same weakness Wiggins, Barnes, OJ Mayo, Jeff Green, Rudy Gay and Beasley had. Not a good sign if their motor come and goes.They may not be build for highly competitive basketball and Washington isn't exactly a good college ball team either.
Title: Re: Monday 1/16 : Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on January 16, 2017, 11:43:10 AM
UPDATE: Monday 1/16

Draft prospects playing today:

2:00 FS1  Xavier/Creighton   Edmond Sumner (4)/Justin Patton (23)

6:30 FS1  Villanova              Josh Hart (3)

7:00 ESPN Syracuse/UNC      Lydon (20)/Justin Jackson (44)

9:00 ESPN Kansas/IO St        Josh Jackson (11), Mykhailiuk (10)/Monte Morris (11)

Jersey numbers in parentheses.


EDIT: Another potential first rounder to check out: 8:00 ESPN3 Valparaiso    Alec Peters (25)
Title: Re: Saturday 1/14 : Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: DefenseWinsChamps on January 16, 2017, 12:02:11 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aTivQVuhqs0

The guy is so tough. Never afraid to absorb contact. I don't care if he can't shoot. He have the winning mentality and toughness of Smart.

edit: He's playing Smart's team. LOL
i understand your points. jackson maybe THE best all around athlete and basketball player in this draft, except for his shooting. it is really, really bad.

if the celtics take jackson, there is really no way the team can put smart and jackson out there together since both, right now, are poor shooters.

Celtics can just switch Smart with AB off the bench since Smart can play both with both IT and AB. Jackson will just replace Smart as the playmaker off the bench. Unlike Smart, he takes more smarter (no pun intended) shot selection and capable of playing off the ball. If people wanted Simmons, I can't see how they don't want Jackson who is much more competitive.

He's arguably a better playmaker than Fultz or Ball.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kaP4QCK1pZs

I can see the bench next season with decent spacing. Just pick your poison

Yabu
Jackson
Brown
Kelly (If resigned)
AB
Zizic
Green (If resigned)

Plus, i'm a bit more worried about both Fultz and Ball. Draftexpress labelled "Casual Approach" for both of those kids. That's the same weakness Wiggins, Barnes, OJ Mayo, Jeff Green, Rudy Gay and Beasley had. Not a good sign if their motor come and goes.They may not be build for highly competitive basketball and Washington isn't exactly a good college ball team either.

I like Jackson, but I don't think he is the best player in this draft. He reminds me of Josh Childress. He's a playmaker. He's versatile. But I don't think he is an all-star. Modern day comparison would be something like a Wilson Chandler.

If everything broke perfectly and he developed a jump shot, there's a chance he can be Jimmy Butler-lite, but his free throw rate indicates that is unlikely.

If we were picking 6-10, I'd be all for it, but there are other guys who have a higher ceiling and less weaknesses.
Title: Re: Monday 1/16 : Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: tankcity! on January 16, 2017, 12:39:47 PM
Patton looks great. Thanks for the find. This is going to be a good draft.
Title: Re: Saturday 1/14 : Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: tankcity! on January 16, 2017, 12:55:02 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aTivQVuhqs0

The guy is so tough. Never afraid to absorb contact. I don't care if he can't shoot. He have the winning mentality and toughness of Smart.

edit: He's playing Smart's team. LOL
i understand your points. jackson maybe THE best all around athlete and basketball player in this draft, except for his shooting. it is really, really bad.

if the celtics take jackson, there is really no way the team can put smart and jackson out there together since both, right now, are poor shooters.

I think a fair comp for Jackson may be Iggy at best. I think Josh Childress is a good floor.
Title: Re: Saturday 1/14 : Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: tankcity! on January 16, 2017, 01:00:14 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aTivQVuhqs0

The guy is so tough. Never afraid to absorb contact. I don't care if he can't shoot. He have the winning mentality and toughness of Smart.

edit: He's playing Smart's team. LOL
i understand your points. jackson maybe THE best all around athlete and basketball player in this draft, except for his shooting. it is really, really bad.

if the celtics take jackson, there is really no way the team can put smart and jackson out there together since both, right now, are poor shooters.

Celtics can just switch Smart with AB off the bench since Smart can play both with both IT and AB. Jackson will just replace Smart as the playmaker off the bench. Unlike Smart, he takes more smarter (no pun intended) shot selection and capable of playing off the ball. If people wanted Simmons, I can't see how they don't want Jackson who is much more competitive.

He's arguably a better playmaker than Fultz or Ball.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kaP4QCK1pZs

I can see the bench next season with decent spacing. Just pick your poison

Yabu
Jackson
Brown
Kelly (If resigned)
AB
Zizic
Green (If resigned)

Plus, i'm a bit more worried about both Fultz and Ball. Draftexpress labelled "Casual Approach" for both of those kids. That's the same weakness Wiggins, Barnes, OJ Mayo, Jeff Green, Rudy Gay and Beasley had. Not a good sign if their motor come and goes.They may not be build for highly competitive basketball and Washington isn't exactly a good college ball team either.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVjD_Oongow
Title: Re: Monday 1/16 : Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: tazzmaniac on January 16, 2017, 01:16:55 PM
UPDATE: Monday 1/16

Draft prospects playing today:

2:00 FS1  Xavier                  Edmond Sumner (4)

6:30 FS1  Villanova              Josh Hart (3)

7:00 ESPN Syracuse/UNC      Lydon (20)/Justin Jackson (44)

9:00 ESPN Kansas/IO St        Josh Jackson (11), Mykhailiuk (10)/Monte Morris (11)

Jersey numbers in parentheses.


EDIT: Another potential first rounder to check out: 8:00 ESPN3 Valparaiso    Alec Peters (25)
Xavier plays Creighton so you missed one of your favorites, Patton (23).   
Title: Re: Monday 1/16 : Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on January 16, 2017, 01:29:27 PM
UPDATE: Monday 1/16

Draft prospects playing today:

2:00 FS1  Xavier                  Edmond Sumner (4)

6:30 FS1  Villanova              Josh Hart (3)

7:00 ESPN Syracuse/UNC      Lydon (20)/Justin Jackson (44)

9:00 ESPN Kansas/IO St        Josh Jackson (11), Mykhailiuk (10)/Monte Morris (11)

Jersey numbers in parentheses.


EDIT: Another potential first rounder to check out: 8:00 ESPN3 Valparaiso    Alec Peters (25)
Xavier plays Creighton so you missed one of your favorites, Patton (23).

TP, tazz, thanks for the catch!! Will edit my post!! and watch game
Title: Re: Tuesday 1/17 : Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on January 17, 2017, 12:41:20 PM
UPDATE: Tuesday 1/17

Some good draftees to watch tonight. Too bad they're all on at the same time!!!

Lots of channel flipping!

7:00 SECN   Texas A&M    Robert Williams (44)

7:00 ESPN    Kentucky     Monk (5), Fox (0), Bam (3)

7:00 ESPN2  Baylor         Jonathan Motley (5)

7:00 ESPNU NC ST          DSJ (4), Yurtseven (14)
Title: Re:Wednesday 1/18 : Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on January 18, 2017, 11:15:09 AM
UPDATE: Wednesday 1/18

More prospects to look at, especially as mocks get updated!!

6:30 SECN     South Carolina/Florida    PJ Dozier (15)/Devin Robinson (1) (2nd rounders)

7:00 BTN       Indiana                         Anunoby (3) and Bryant (31)

7:00 ACCN    FSU/ND                         Isaac (1), Bacon (4)/VJ Beacham (3) (2nd)

8:00 ACCN    Wake                            John Collins (20)

9:00 ESPNU   Ok State                       Jawun Evans (1)

11:00 ESPNU Washington                   Fultz (20)
Title: Re: Monday 1/16 : Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: footey on January 18, 2017, 11:20:53 AM
WatchedcKentucky last night. Fox very interesting.
Title: Re: Monday 1/16 : Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on January 18, 2017, 02:17:39 PM
WatchedcKentucky last night. Fox very interesting.

Great athleticism...not a great shooter....maybe like an Elfrid Payton/Rondo mix.

Isaiah Briscoe impresses me on that team, despite the big names of Fox, Monk and Bam.
Title: Re: Monday 1/16 : Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: tazzmaniac on January 18, 2017, 05:11:35 PM
WatchedcKentucky last night. Fox very interesting.
The refs made that a tough game to watch.  Fox is my favorite prospect to watch but he's got to improve his shooting.  Fultz and Ball will go ahead of him but I'd definitely take Fox over Smith. 
Title: Re: Saturday 1/14 : Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: KG Living Legend on January 18, 2017, 06:12:42 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aTivQVuhqs0

The guy is so tough. Never afraid to absorb contact. I don't care if he can't shoot. He have the winning mentality and toughness of Smart.

edit: He's playing Smart's team. LOL
Jackson is definitely though but I don't think he is anywhere close to smart.

Yup....Smart is a special type personality ,  like kG ,  insane competitor.


 That's why drafting Jackson would be sweet. Operation Wolfpack.
Title: Re: Thursday 1/19 : Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on January 19, 2017, 01:05:27 PM
UPDATE: Thursday 1/19

Draft prospects playing tonight:

7:00 ESPN     Maryland      Melo Trimble (2)

9:00 ESPN     Louisville/Clem     Mitchell (45)/ Blossomgame (5)

9:00 ESPN2  Cal/Ore        Rabb (1)/Boucher (25), Brooks (24), Bell (1), Dorsey (5)

9:00 PAC-12 Arizona        Markkanen (10), Alkins (1), Kobe Simmons (2)

11:00 FS1   UCLA            Ball (2), Leaf (22)



Title: Re: Thursday 1/19 : Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: The One on January 19, 2017, 01:48:58 PM
Thank you csfansince60s!
Title: Re: Thursday 1/19 : Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: tazzmaniac on January 21, 2017, 02:31:53 AM
Lot of prospect watching with a few good games for 1/22

12:00   ESPN   -   Syracuse:  Lydon (20)

12:00   FOX   -   Villanova:   Hart (3)

12:00   ESPN2  -   Texas A&M:  Williams (44)

12:00   ACCN   -   North Carolina:  Jackson (44)

 2:00    ESPN   -  Louisville vs Florida State:   Mitchell (45) / Isaac (1), Bacon (4)
                             Good game to watch Isaac against a tough defense

 2:00    CBS    -   Kansas:   Jackson (11)

 2:00    ACCN   -   NC State:   Smith (4), Yurtseven (14)

 2:30    FS1     -   Creighton:   Patton (23)

 4:00   CBS   -   Arizona vs  UCLA:   Markkanen (10),  Trier (35) / Ball (2), Leaf (22)
                           Trier's 1st game back. 

 4:00   ESPN   -   Michigan State vs  Indiana:   Bridges (22) / Bryant (31)

 6:00   ESPN   -   South Carolina vs Kentucky:  Fox (0), Monk (5), Bam (3)

 8:00   PAC12   -   Washington:  Fultz (20)

 8:00   ESPNU   -   Baylor:  Motley (5) 

 8:15   ESPN   -  Duke:   Giles (1), Tatum (0), Bolden (20), Allen (3), Kennard (5)

10:30  PAC12   -  California:  Rabb (1)
Title: Re: Thursday 1/19 : Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: Bostoncelticsforlife7 on January 21, 2017, 01:17:21 PM
Lot of prospect watching with a few good games for 1/22

12:00   ESPN   -   Syracuse:  Lydon (20)

12:00   FOX   -   Villanova:   Hart (3)

12:00   ESPN2  -   Texas A&M:  Williams (44)

12:00   ACCN   -   North Carolina:  Jackson (44)

 2:00    ESPN   -  Louisville vs Florida State:   Mitchell (45) / Isaac (1), Bacon (4)
                             Good game to watch Isaac against a tough defense

 2:00    CBS    -   Kansas:   Jackson (11)

 2:00    ACCN   -   NC State:   Smith (4), Yurtseven (14)

 2:30    FS1     -   Creighton:   Patton (23)

 4:00   CBS   -   Arizona vs  UCLA:   Markkanen (10),  Trier (35) / Ball (2), Leaf (22)
                           Trier's 1st game back. 

 4:00   ESPN   -   Michigan State vs  Indiana:   Bridges (22) / Bryant (31)

 6:00   ESPN   -   South Carolina vs Kentucky:  Fox (0), Monk (5), Bam (3)

 8:00   PAC12   -   Washington:  Fultz (20)

 8:00   ESPNU   -   Baylor:  Motley (5) 

 8:15   ESPN   -  Duke:   Giles (1), Tatum (0), Bolden (20), Allen (3), Kennard (5)

10:30  PAC12   -  California:  Rabb (1)
Thanks Tazz, TP. There is a lot of prospects playing today, I think I'll watch the fultz game since I haven't been paying much attention to him
Title: Re: Thursday 1/19 : Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: Bostoncelticsforlife7 on January 21, 2017, 01:19:22 PM
I'm not giving up on my guys Harry Giles. I still have faith that he will be a top 3 pick come draft time. I'm hoping for a 20 point game for him today
Title: Re: Thursday 1/19 : Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: chilidawg on January 21, 2017, 03:48:03 PM
Watching Kansas/Texas, and the most impressive guy on the floor has been Jarret Allen.  Lean, agile 7 footer, he's got 19/16 with 3 blocks with 10 minutes still to go.  6 turnovers though.  Obviously a work in progress, but he's shown a good mid range game and the ability to put it on the floor against close outs. 
Title: Re: Thursday 1/19 : Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: tazzmaniac on January 21, 2017, 04:59:57 PM
Watching Kansas/Texas, and the most impressive guy on the floor has been Jarret Allen.  Lean, agile 7 footer, he's got 19/16 with 3 blocks with 10 minutes still to go.  6 turnovers though.  Obviously a work in progress, but he's shown a good mid range game and the ability to put it on the floor against close outs.
I'll have to try to catch the game in replay.  Jarrett Allen started the season as a late lottery projection in the DraftExpress 2017 mock but he played so poorly that they pushed him back to their 2018 mock. 
Title: Re: Saturday 1/22 : Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on January 21, 2017, 09:07:00 PM
Watching Kansas/Texas, and the most impressive guy on the floor has been Jarret Allen.  Lean, agile 7 footer, he's got 19/16 with 3 blocks with 10 minutes still to go.  6 turnovers though.  Obviously a work in progress, but he's shown a good mid range game and the ability to put it on the floor against close outs.
I'll have to try to catch the game in replay.  Jarrett Allen started the season as a late lottery projection in the DraftExpress 2017 mock but he played so poorly that they pushed him back to their 2018 mock.

Agree. He was a non-factor in so many games that we stopped including him in the prospects to be watched. He was , I think 13-14 on nbadraft.net.early in the season.... then his play made him deservedly disappear.
Title: Re: Thursday 1/19 : Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: Tr1boy on January 21, 2017, 09:15:20 PM
I'm not giving up on my guys Harry Giles. I still have faith that he will be a top 3 pick come draft time. I'm hoping for a 20 point game for him today

0 pts in the 1at half

Tatum with 2 points

What is going on with these prospects
Title: Re: Saturday 1/22: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: Celtics4ever on January 21, 2017, 09:41:25 PM
Not impressed with Tatum's defense or ball awareness.
Title: Re: Thursday 1/19 : Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: Boris Badenov on January 21, 2017, 09:48:14 PM
I'm not giving up on my guys Harry Giles. I still have faith that he will be a top 3 pick come draft time. I'm hoping for a 20 point game for him today

0 pts in the 1at half

Tatum with 2 points

What is going on with these prospects

If this continues there will be real separation between the top 4 and the rest of these guys.

Title: Re: Thursday 1/19 : Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: DefenseWinsChamps on January 21, 2017, 09:52:13 PM
I'm not giving up on my guys Harry Giles. I still have faith that he will be a top 3 pick come draft time. I'm hoping for a 20 point game for him today

0 pts in the 1at half

Tatum with 2 points

What is going on with these prospects

Cept for Isaac, and Fultz
Title: Re: Saturday 1/22: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: tazzmaniac on January 22, 2017, 03:19:39 AM
Duke actually looked like a good basketball team in the 2nd half rather than just a bunch of talented players.  Coach Capel putting Allen, Kennard and Giles to the bench was a great move.  Makes no sense for them to start their 3 worst defensive players.  Giles and at least one of Allen or Kennard need to come off the bench from now on. 

Tatum looked much better in the 2nd half.  He made some aggressive drives to the basket.  Bolden played by far his best game both offensively and defensively. Finally showed why he was projected as a late lottery pick.  Giles continues to look bad.  Plays lousy defense and fouls a lot while doing it. 

Isaac continues to look better and better.  I would not be surprised if he ends up being the top non-guard in the draft. 

Fox is definitely the key cog for Kentucky.  Their offense collapsed when he went out with a twisted ankle in the 1st half.  Monk showed some aggressiveness driving to the basket a bit rather than just settling for jumpers.  Hopefully he keeps it up when Fox gets back. 

Only caught the 2nd half of the game but Patton was in foul trouble again.  2nd game in a row where I've seen him pickup a stupid 4th foul.  He did make a rather acrobatic, for a 7' center, catch and layup on the fast break.  He moves well defensively but he's not an imposing defensive presence.   

Robert Williams probably had his best game (18pts, 12rebs) so far.  I'd really like to have a late lottery pick to take him.  He's a raw prospect but further along than I initially thought.  Excellent defense, good rebounding and a surprising post game. 

Getting old.  Fell asleep during the UCLA/Arizona game and missed the last 10 minutes.  Ball and Markkanen both looked good up to that point.  Not sure how Ball's shot works but he gets it off quick and it goes in so that's all that matters.  Ball showed he could drive the lane successfully a few times.   Markannen's shot looks great and it goes in like you expect it to.  He's more Dirk than Porzingis. 
Title: Re: Sunday 1/22: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on January 22, 2017, 10:35:04 AM
EDIT!!!!!

My apologies for earlier update. I mistakenly put the games for next Sunday, the 29th. I am a big dope!!!

Sorry  for any inconveniences that this may have caused people.

UPDATE: Sunday 1/22

Draft prospects for today:

2:00 CBS   Xavier    Sumner (4)

6:30 ESPMU Clemson Blossomgame (5)

Mea culpa!
Title: Re: Sunday 1/23: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: Denis998 on January 22, 2017, 10:38:13 AM
UPDATE: Sunday 1/23

Draft prospects for today:

Lot of choices before football, especially at 1:00 p.m.

1:00 CBS         MichSt        Bridges (22)

1:00 Fox          'Nova          Hart (3)

1:00 ACCN       NCSt/ Lou   DSJ (4), Yurtseven (14)/ Mitchell (45)

3:30 FOX         'Zona          Markkanen (10), Trier (35), Alkins (1), Simmons (2)

4:30 BTN         Purdue        Caleb

6:00 FS1         Xavier          Edmond Sumner  (4)

6:30 BTN         Indiana        Bryant (31), Anunoby (3)

8:30 ESPNU     Cal               Rabb (1)
OG is out for the season with knee surgery.
Title: Re: Sunday 1/23: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on January 22, 2017, 10:52:30 AM
UPDATE: Sunday 1/23

Draft prospects for today:

Lot of choices before football, especially at 1:00 p.m.

1:00 CBS         MichSt        Bridges (22)

1:00 Fox          'Nova          Hart (3)

1:00 ACCN       NCSt/ Lou   DSJ (4), Yurtseven (14)/ Mitchell (45)

3:30 FOX         'Zona          Markkanen (10), Trier (35), Alkins (1), Simmons (2)

4:30 BTN         Purdue        Caleb

6:00 FS1         Xavier          Edmond Sumner  (4)

6:30 BTN         Indiana        Bryant (31), Anunoby (3)

8:30 ESPNU     Cal               Rabb (1)
OG is out for the season with knee surgery.

TP, forgot, thanks...fixed.
Title: Re: Thursday 1/19 : Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: Bostoncelticsforlife7 on January 22, 2017, 11:03:20 AM
I'm not giving up on my guys Harry Giles. I still have faith that he will be a top 3 pick come draft time. I'm hoping for a 20 point game for him today

0 pts in the 1at half

Tatum with 2 points

What is going on with these prospects
I don't know, duke is not looking too good right now
Title: Re: Sunday 1/23: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: tazzmaniac on January 22, 2017, 11:50:44 AM
UPDATE: Sunday 1/23

Draft prospects for today:

Lot of choices before football, especially at 1:00 p.m.

1:00 CBS         MichSt        Bridges (22)

1:00 Fox          'Nova          Hart (3)

1:00 ACCN       NCSt/ Lou   DSJ (4), Yurtseven (14)/ Mitchell (45)

3:30 FOX         'Zona          Markkanen (10), Trier (35), Alkins (1), Simmons (2)

4:30 BTN         Purdue        Caleb Swanigan (50)  2nd rounder

6:00 FS1         Xavier          Edmond Sumner  (4)

6:30 BTN         Indiana        Bryant (31)

8:30 ESPNU     Cal               Rabb (1)
It should be Sunday 1/22.  Looks like I screwed you up with my previous post saying Saturday 1/22. 

As for the games, the only top 25 game ESPN shows today is Xavier at 1:00.  Did you look at the wrong day? 
Title: Re: Sunday 1/23: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on January 22, 2017, 01:51:36 PM
UPDATE: Sunday 1/23

Draft prospects for today:

Lot of choices before football, especially at 1:00 p.m.

1:00 CBS         MichSt        Bridges (22)

1:00 Fox          'Nova          Hart (3)

1:00 ACCN       NCSt/ Lou   DSJ (4), Yurtseven (14)/ Mitchell (45)

3:30 FOX         'Zona          Markkanen (10), Trier (35), Alkins (1), Simmons (2)

4:30 BTN         Purdue        Caleb Swanigan (50)  2nd rounder

6:00 FS1         Xavier          Edmond Sumner  (4)

6:30 BTN         Indiana        Bryant (31)

8:30 ESPNU     Cal               Rabb (1)
It should be Sunday 1/22.  Looks like I screwed you up with my previous post saying Saturday 1/22. 

As for the games, the only top 25 game ESPN shows today is Xavier at 1:00.  Did you look at the wrong day?

Tazz, TP, you're right....stupid me had the games for next Sunday, the 29th...apologies everyone!!!

Will fix.
Title: Re: Monday 1/23: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on January 23, 2017, 09:33:42 AM
UPDATE: Monday 1/23

Potential draftees playing tonight:

7:00 ESPN   NCSt             DSJ(4),Yurtseven(14)
                  Duke             Tatum(0),Giles(1), Kennard(5), Bolden(20), Allen(3)

7:00 ESPNU Ok St            Jawun Evans (1)

9:00 ESPN   Texas            Jarrett Allen (31) (looked very week early in season)
                               
                                                         
                                                                   

         
Title: Re: Tuesday 1/24: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on January 24, 2017, 11:35:36 AM
UPDATE: Tuesday 1/24

Potential draftees today:

6:30 SECN     SCarolina       PJ Dozier (15)

7:00 BTN       MD                Melo Trimble (2)

7:00 ESPN2   MichSt/Purdue   Bridges (22)/Caleb Swanigan (50)

7:00 ESPNU   Louisville         Mitchell (45)

8:00 ACCN    Wake/Syr        Collins (20), Lydon (20)

8:00 ACCN     ND                 VJ Beacham (3)

8:00 FS1       'Nova              Josh Hart (3)

9:00 ESPN     Kentucky        Fox (0), Bam (3), Monk (5)

9:00 ESPNU   IOSt/ KSt       Morris (11)/Iwundu (25)
Title: Re: Wednesday 1/25: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on January 25, 2017, 10:25:41 AM
UPDATE: Wednesday 1/25

7:00 ACCN        Florida St     Isaac(1), Bacon(4)

7:30 ESPN2       A&M            Robt. Wms  (44)

8:00 ESPNews   Baylor          Motley(5)

9:00 SECN        Florida          Robinson (1)

10:00 CBSSN    Nevada         Cam Oliver (0)

11:00 FS1         UCLA           Ball (2), Leaf (22)

11:00 ESPNU     Wash           Fultz (20)
Title: Re: Thursday 1/26: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on January 26, 2017, 01:32:30 PM
UPDATE: Thursday 1/26

8:00 ESPN      UNC        Justin Jackson (44), Isaiah Hicks (4)

9:00 ESPN2   Indiana    Bryant (31)

9:30 PAC-12  'Arizona   Markkanen (10), Alkins (1), Trier (35), Kobe Simmons (2)

10:30 FS1     Oregon        Boucher (25), Bell (1), Brooks (24), Dorsey (5)
Title: Re: Friday 1/27: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on January 27, 2017, 11:52:23 AM
Friday: 1/27

only one game with a potential draftee tonight:

8:00 ESPN3      Valparaiso     Alec Peters (25) (Late first, doubt early second)
Title: Re: Saturday 1/28: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: tazzmaniac on January 28, 2017, 12:33:47 AM
Prospect watching and 1 top matchup for Saturday 1/28

12:00   ESPN   -   Texas A&M:  Robert Williams (44)

12:00   ESPN2  -   Florida State vs.  Syracuse:  Isaac (1), Bacon (4) /  Lydon (20)

 2:30    FS1   -    Creighton:  Patton (23)

 3:00    ACCN  -  Duke:  Tatum (0), Giles (1), Bolden (20), Kennard (5), Allen (3)

 6:15    ESPN  -  Kansas vs Kentucky:   Jackson (11) / Fox (0), Monk (5), Bam (3)

 
Title: Re: Saturday 1/28: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on January 28, 2017, 12:34:22 AM
UPDATE: Saturday 1/28

Potential Draftees playing today: Lots to watch folks!!

12:00 ESPN     A&M       Robt Wms (44)

12:00 ESPNU   ND         VJ Beacham (3)

12:00 ACCN     Clemson    Blossomgame (5)

12:00 ESPN2 FSU/Syr       Isaac (1), Bacon (4)/Lydon (20)

1:00 CBS         UNC        Justin Jackson (44), Tony Bradley (5)

2:00 ESPN2     KSt.         Iwundu (25)

2:15 BTN         MD          Melo Trimble (2)

2:30 FS1        Creighton  Justin Patton (23)

3:00 ACCN     Duke/Wake Tatum(0), Giles(1),Kennard(5), Allen(3), Bolden(20)/ John Collins (20)

4:00 ESPNU    OKSt        Jawun Evans (1)

4:00 ESPN      Texas        Jarret Allen (31)

4:00 ESPN2    IOSt/Vandy   Monte Morris(11), Luke Kornet (3)

4:00 CBSSN   Nevada       Cam Oliver (0)

6:00 ESPN2   Baylor         Motley (5)

6:15 ESPN     UK/KU        Monk(5), Fox(0),Bam(3)/Josh Jackson(11), Mykhailiuk (10)

8:30 SECN     SCarolina    PJ Dozier (15)

9:30 PAC-12  Oregon       Boucher (25), Bell (1), Brooks (24), Dorsey (5)

Title: Re: Saturday 1/28: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: Bostoncelticsforlife7 on January 28, 2017, 10:33:07 AM
UPDATE: Saturday 1/28

Potential Draftees playing today: Lots to watch folks!!

12:00 ESPN     A&M       Robt Wms (44)

12:00 ESPNU   ND         VJ Beacham (3)

12:00 ACCN     Clemson    Blossomgame (5)

12:00 ESPN2 FSU/Syr       Isaac (1), Bacon (4)/Lydon (20)

1:00 CBS         UNC        Justin Jackson (44), Tony Bradley (5)

2:00 ESPN2     KSt.         Iwundu (25)

2:15 BTN         MD          Melo Trimble (2)

2:30 FS1        Creighton  Justin Patton (23)

3:00 ACCN     Duke/Wake Tatum(0), Giles(1),Kennard(5), Allen(3), Bolden(20)/ John Collins (20)

4:00 ESPNU    OKSt        Jawun Evans (1)

4:00 ESPN      Texas        Jarret Allen (31)

4:00 ESPN2    IOSt/Vandy   Monte Morris(11), Luke Kornet (3)

4:00 CBSSN   Nevada       Cam Oliver (0)

6:00 ESPN2   Baylor         Motley (5)

6:15 ESPN     UK/KU        Monk(5), Fox(0),Bam(3)/Josh Jackson(11), Mykhailiuk (10)

8:30 SECN     SCarolina    PJ Dozier (15)

9:30 PAC-12  Oregon       Boucher (25), Bell (1), Brooks (24), Dorsey (5)
TP csfan. My guy Giles playing today, lets go!!!
Title: Re: Saturday 1/28: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: Bostoncelticsforlife7 on January 28, 2017, 10:34:04 AM
I'm still waiting on the 20 point game from him, its gotta come soon ;)
Title: Re: Saturday 1/28: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on January 28, 2017, 04:43:25 PM
I'm still waiting on the 20 point game from him, its gotta come soon ;)

TP, rooting for Giles too.

The more quality in the draft, the more valuable our pick.

Do you think there is a chance that he doesn't come out this year?

I know the $$$$ is huge, even a later first rounder is given life-changing, guaranteed money.

I'm stuck in a conference and haven't been able to watch all these games, so going nuts.
Title: Re: Saturday 1/28: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: Bostoncelticsforlife7 on January 28, 2017, 05:35:05 PM
I'm still waiting on the 20 point game from him, its gotta come soon ;)

TP, rooting for Giles too.

The more quality in the draft, the more valuable our pick.

Do you think there is a chance that he doesn't come out this year?

I know the $$$$ is huge, even a later first rounder is given life-changing, guaranteed money.

I'm stuck in a conference and haven't been able to watch all these games, so going nuts.
You know at the beginning of the season I was hearing people saying that he should stay another year and I though they were crazy considering his injury history and how risky it'll be, but now that I've been watching him for a couple of months I'm starting to think that he should. He has so much talent and he is capable of sooo much more than what he is doing right now. Plus if he comes out too early and raw he could be the next James Young.

Ps sorry you missed the duke game it was pretty crazy, Luke kennard hit the game winner and score 30 points in the second half on 10/10 shooting
Title: Re: Saturday 1/28: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: max215 on January 28, 2017, 06:42:39 PM
This Kentucky-Kansas game on ESPN is must watch TV for all C's fans. Early observation: Malik Monk is going to be a dominant scorer.
Title: Re: Saturday 1/28: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on January 28, 2017, 07:32:10 PM
I'm still waiting on the 20 point game from him, its gotta come soon ;)

TP, rooting for Giles too.

The more quality in the draft, the more valuable our pick.

Do you think there is a chance that he doesn't come out this year?

I know the $$$$ is huge, even a later first rounder is given life-changing, guaranteed money.

I'm stuck in a conference and haven't been able to watch all these games, so going nuts.
You know at the beginning of the season I was hearing people saying that he should stay another year and I though they were crazy considering his injury history and how risky it'll be, but now that I've been watching him for a couple of months I'm starting to think that he should. He has so much talent and he is capable of sooo much more than what he is doing right now. Plus if he comes out too early and raw he could be the next James Young.

Ps sorry you missed the duke game it was pretty crazy, Luke kennard hit the game winner and score 30 points in the second half on 10/10 shooting

On the road, coming home, but I heard about Kennard's exploits. He has been THE best player on that team all year along. Kid can play. I'd love to have him...winner.

And, yeah, about Giles, staying in school would be the best thing for his basketball development and to increase his draft stock, but the downside risk of him doing so is FAR too great. He gets hurt again, he'll be a 2nd rounder at best, with no guaranteed $$$. TP, thanks for the update.

Hoping to make it home in time to catch the Cs 2nd half. Oregon will be a good team to watch tonight too.

EDIT: Anybody watch Patton? Kid's going lottery, Isaac top 5. Been saying both for awhile.
Title: Re: Saturday 1/28: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: The One on January 28, 2017, 08:01:43 PM
Josh Jackson looking good!

Jonathan Isaac had 12 boards!

Title: Re: Saturday 1/28: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: notthebowler on January 28, 2017, 08:30:05 PM
This Kentucky-Kansas game on ESPN is must watch TV for all C's fans. Early observation: Malik Monk is going to be a dominant scorer.

TP to you; not for the opinion, but for spelling dominant and not dominate. You may be the only one on the Internet!
Title: Re: Saturday 1/28: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: chilidawg on January 28, 2017, 10:59:27 PM
This Kentucky-Kansas game on ESPN is must watch TV for all C's fans. Early observation: Malik Monk is going to be a dominant scorer.

Monk cooled off after a hot start.  I still think he's undersized and one dimensional, although he is a great athlete, no doubt.

Jackson was the best looking prospect to me, great all around game and his shot seems to be coming around. 2-5 from 3 today after going 6-9 his previous two games.
Title: Re: Saturday 1/28: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: mr. dee on January 28, 2017, 11:03:18 PM
Jackson were much more impressive against Kentucky than Ball. People undervalue the versatility he brings.
Title: Re: Saturday 1/28: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on January 28, 2017, 11:07:02 PM
Anybody watching Oregon versus Colorado? Very entertaining.

Both exciting teams with underrated talent.

And the Ducks uniforms just like their football uniforms are insane. I think you can see them in the dark.
Title: Re: Saturday 1/28: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: DefenseWinsChamps on January 28, 2017, 11:08:50 PM
Jackson impressed again.

Why is it that I still don't feel comfortable saying he is the best player in this draft? What is it about his game that makes me feel concerned that he can't star in the NBA?

I have no idea, but I can't shake the feeling.
Title: Re: Saturday 1/28: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: mr. dee on January 28, 2017, 11:11:20 PM
Jackson impressed again.

Why is it that I still don't feel comfortable saying he is the best player in this draft? What is it about his game that makes me feel concerned that he can't star in the NBA?

I have no idea, but I can't shake the feeling.

What if I told you Fultz could end up as another Dion Waiters?
Title: Re: Saturday 1/28: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: Denis998 on January 28, 2017, 11:11:33 PM
Jackson impressed again.

Why is it that I still don't feel comfortable saying he is the best player in this draft? What is it about his game that makes me feel concerned that he can't star in the NBA?

I have no idea, but I can't shake the feeling.
its probably because he cant shoot.
Title: Re: Saturday 1/28: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on January 28, 2017, 11:11:50 PM
This Kentucky-Kansas game on ESPN is must watch TV for all C's fans. Early observation: Malik Monk is going to be a dominant scorer.

TP to you; not for the opinion, but for spelling dominant and not dominate. You may be the only one on the Internet!

Agree...people blow my mind that way, mixing verbs and adjectives.... messed up!

They're, their and there too!
Title: Re: Saturday 1/28: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: Tr1boy on January 28, 2017, 11:15:25 PM
Jackson impressed again.

Why is it that I still don't feel comfortable saying he is the best player in this draft? What is it about his game that makes me feel concerned that he can't star in the NBA?

I have no idea, but I can't shake the feeling.


A picture perfect jump stroke is prob why =p

You know who has one? Parker or Wiggins. But I rather have a guy like Josh Jackson any day of the week
Title: Re: Saturday 1/28: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: Tr1boy on January 28, 2017, 11:16:37 PM
Jackson impressed again.

Why is it that I still don't feel comfortable saying he is the best player in this draft? What is it about his game that makes me feel concerned that he can't star in the NBA?

I have no idea, but I can't shake the feeling.

What if I told you Fultz could end up as another Dion Waiters?

Yikesss

More likely a beal or mccollum vs Waiters
Title: Re: Saturday 1/28: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: Tr1boy on January 28, 2017, 11:21:22 PM
Josh Jackson looking good!

Jonathan Isaac had 12 boards!

For me I would be happy with one of Isaac, Jackson, Fultz

Jayson Tatum (8pts today) and Giles(6pts) looking like garbage right now. Kennards Duke best player
Title: Re: Saturday 1/28: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: Tr1boy on January 28, 2017, 11:30:56 PM
Josh jackson beast game
https://www.youtube.com/shared?ci=FFbf3sCzsms

Jonathan Isaac nice game vs Syracuse
https://www.youtube.com/shared?ci=32rEqNNFmFo
Title: Re: Saturday 1/28: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: Bostoncelticsforlife7 on January 28, 2017, 11:31:04 PM
Jackson impressed again.

Why is it that I still don't feel comfortable saying he is the best player in this draft? What is it about his game that makes me feel concerned that he can't star in the NBA?

I have no idea, but I can't shake the feeling.
its probably because he cant shoot.
And because his shot is extremely ugly

Edit: my bad I didn't know that joke was already made, all credit to triboy
Title: Re: Saturday 1/28: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: chambers on January 28, 2017, 11:34:36 PM
my top 5

Fultz
Isaac
Smith
Ball
Jackson
Title: Re: Saturday 1/28: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: Tr1boy on January 28, 2017, 11:38:23 PM
Josh jackson beast game
https://www.youtube.com/shared?ci=FFbf3sCzsms

Jonathan Isaac nice game vs Syracuse
https://www.youtube.com/shared?ci=32rEqNNFmFo

Jackson is a baller.. top handles/passing skills for a forward
Title: Re: Saturday 1/28: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on January 29, 2017, 12:07:10 AM
UPDATE: Sunday 1/29

Draft prospects for today:

Lot of choices especially at 1:00 p.m.

1:00 CBS         MichSt        Bridges (22)

1:00 Fox          'Nova          Hart (3)

1:00 ACCN       NCSt/ Lou   DSJ (4), Yurtseven (14)/ Mitchell (45)

3:30 FOX        Wash/ AZ     FULTZ (20) Markkanen (10), Trier (35), Alkins (1), Simmons (2)

4:30 BTN         Purdue        Caleb Swanigan (50)  2nd rounder

6:00 FS1         Xavier          Edmond Sumner  (4)

6:30 BTN         Indiana        Bryant (31)

8:30 ESPNU     Cal               Rabb (1)
Title: Re: Saturday 1/28: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: KG Living Legend on January 29, 2017, 12:37:46 AM
I'm still waiting on the 20 point game from him, its gotta come soon ;)

TP, rooting for Giles too.

The more quality in the draft, the more valuable our pick.

Do you think there is a chance that he doesn't come out this year?

I know the $$$$ is huge, even a later first rounder is given life-changing, guaranteed money.

I'm stuck in a conference and haven't been able to watch all these games, so going nuts.

. In the flip side if Giles comes out and Slides maybe Danny Can go get him like the Sun's did with Chriss.
Title: Re: Saturday 1/28: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: mr. dee on January 29, 2017, 12:38:07 AM
Josh jackson beast game
https://www.youtube.com/shared?ci=FFbf3sCzsms

Jonathan Isaac nice game vs Syracuse
https://www.youtube.com/shared?ci=32rEqNNFmFo

Jackson is a baller.. top handles/passing skills for a forward

Not to mention very elite versatile defender.
Title: Re: Saturday 1/28: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on January 29, 2017, 12:42:20 AM
I'm still waiting on the 20 point game from him, its gotta come soon ;)

TP, rooting for Giles too.

The more quality in the draft, the more valuable our pick.

Do you think there is a chance that he doesn't come out this year?

I know the $$$$ is huge, even a later first rounder is given life-changing, guaranteed money.

I'm stuck in a conference and haven't been able to watch all these games, so going nuts.

. In the flip side if Giles comes out and Slides maybe Danny Can go get him like the Sun's did with Chriss.

Would love that.

If Giles doesn't get a promise for the first round, it may be unlikely, but he could stay in school .
Title: Re: Saturday 1/28: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: Tr1boy on January 29, 2017, 01:00:07 AM
I'm still waiting on the 20 point game from him, its gotta come soon ;)

TP, rooting for Giles too.

The more quality in the draft, the more valuable our pick.

Do you think there is a chance that he doesn't come out this year?

I know the $$$$ is huge, even a later first rounder is given life-changing, guaranteed money.

I'm stuck in a conference and haven't been able to watch all these games, so going nuts.

. In the flip side if Giles comes out and Slides maybe Danny Can go get him like the Sun's did with Chriss.

Would love that.

If Giles doesn't get a promise for the first round, it may be unlikely, but he could stay in school .

He is already fallen out of the lotto

The bigger question mark is Tatum

He is healthy and self destruction .... Close to falling out of the top 10 if you ask me
Title: Re: Sunday 1/29: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: KG Living Legend on January 29, 2017, 02:32:46 AM
 Tatum I cooled on quickly after initially liking him. Just not that athletic. If your not a great defender you better bring more than midrange scoring on Brad's team.
Title: Re: Sunday 1/29: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: The One on January 29, 2017, 07:41:35 AM
Jackson can really drive. Nice dribbling!
Title: Re: Sunday 1/29: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: chilidawg on January 29, 2017, 11:38:05 AM
Fultz against Arizona's talented backcourt should be a good test for him.
Title: Re: Saturday 1/28: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: Smokeeye123 on January 29, 2017, 11:48:12 AM
Josh jackson beast game
https://www.youtube.com/shared?ci=FFbf3sCzsms

Jonathan Isaac nice game vs Syracuse
https://www.youtube.com/shared?ci=32rEqNNFmFo

Jackson is a baller.. top handles/passing skills for a forward

Not to mention very elite versatile defender.

Add me to the lovefest. Really like what I saw from that video. Unselfish willing passer who can play D, drive to the rim, and shoot. Obviously tough to see exactly how good someone is just from a highlight video but I like what I see.
Title: Re: Sunday 1/29: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: max215 on January 29, 2017, 12:13:35 PM
Arizona-Washington this afternoon is another must-watch for us.
Title: Re: Saturday 1/28: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: max215 on January 29, 2017, 12:20:03 PM
This Kentucky-Kansas game on ESPN is must watch TV for all C's fans. Early observation: Malik Monk is going to be a dominant scorer.

Monk cooled off after a hot start.  I still think he's undersized and one dimensional, although he is a great athlete, no doubt.

Jackson was the best looking prospect to me, great all around game and his shot seems to be coming around. 2-5 from 3 today after going 6-9 his previous two games.

I've come around on Monk, because he's as good of a pure shooter as the recent Kentucky 2-guards, and while being an inferior playmaker, has the athleticism that a guy like Jamal Murray lacks. It's just hard for me to see Monk not being a great scorer, which has a lot of value. Jackson looked really good, but his shot worries me. I think it likely has to be rebuilt entirely, and that's quite the undertaking. However, his floor appears to be fairly high with his athleticism, motor, creation ability, defense, size.
Title: Re: Sunday 1/29: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: footey on January 29, 2017, 12:36:52 PM
Watching game yesterday, Jackson looks like he'd fit into our team seamlessly. Very team oriented. Chances look good we will get one of Fultz, Ball or Jackso, which is pretty cool.
Title: Re: Sunday 1/29: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: max215 on January 29, 2017, 12:38:35 PM
Watching game yesterday, Jackson looks like he'd fit into our team seamlessly. Very team oriented. Chances look good we will get one of Fultz, Ball or Jackso, which is pretty cool.

I don't mean this to be disparaging toward Jackson or Danny, but Jackson is the quintessential Danny Ainge player...both in terms of the good and the bad.
Title: Re: Sunday 1/29: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on January 29, 2017, 12:43:13 PM
Arizona-Washington this afternoon is another must-watch for us.

I agree.

Two guys to especially watch aside from the obvious (Fultz/Markkanen) are Rawle Alkins and Alonzo Trier.

Alkins is 6'4" and 225, strong, quick and explosive. He is underrated. If Alkins guards him, this will be a good test for Fultz.

Trier, who was projected by many for the first round before the year started, has only been back 2 games from an NCAA PED suspension that allowed him to play no games before last week, even though he could travel and practice with the team.

Ainge there for this game? I thought that I heard that somewhere.
Title: Re: Sunday 1/29: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on January 29, 2017, 01:36:44 PM
DSJ getting owned by the long, quick, tough Louisville D right now. Saddled with two fouls early though.

Mitchell lighting it up early for Louisville.
Title: Re: Sunday 1/29: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: tazzmaniac on January 29, 2017, 03:24:47 PM
DSJ getting owned by the long, quick, tough Louisville D right now. Saddled with two fouls early though.

Mitchell lighting it up early for Louisville.
DSJ is the one prospect I have no interest in.  Same thing happened to him against North Carolina.   
Title: Re: Sunday 1/29: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: Ilikesports17 on January 29, 2017, 03:27:43 PM
DSJ getting owned by the long, quick, tough Louisville D right now. Saddled with two fouls early though.

Mitchell lighting it up early for Louisville.
DSJ is the one prospect I have no interest in.  Same thing happened to him against North Carolina.
I dont want him or Fox to be BPA because neither can play off ball or defend the 2.

Ball and Fultz can do both, making them far better fits with Isaiah/Smart.
Title: Re: Sunday 1/29: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: max215 on January 29, 2017, 04:24:43 PM
DSJ getting owned by the long, quick, tough Louisville D right now. Saddled with two fouls early though.

Mitchell lighting it up early for Louisville.
DSJ is the one prospect I have no interest in.  Same thing happened to him against North Carolina.
I dont want him or Fox to be BPA because neither can play off ball or defend the 2.

Ball and Fultz can do both, making them far better fits with Isaiah/Smart.

I'd bet neither of those guys ends up top 4 according to consensus opinion come draft time, so nothing to worry about.
Title: Re: Sunday 1/29: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: Ilikesports17 on January 29, 2017, 04:42:02 PM
DSJ getting owned by the long, quick, tough Louisville D right now. Saddled with two fouls early though.

Mitchell lighting it up early for Louisville.
DSJ is the one prospect I have no interest in.  Same thing happened to him against North Carolina.
I dont want him or Fox to be BPA because neither can play off ball or defend the 2.

Ball and Fultz can do both, making them far better fits with Isaiah/Smart.

I'd bet neither of those guys ends up top 4 according to consensus opinion come draft time, so nothing to worry about.
DX has them at 3 and 6 respectively, but I think you are right. Isaac Tatum and Jackson all seem like they could be better prospects. Especially if Isaac continues his strong play.
Title: Re: Sunday 1/29: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: chilidawg on January 29, 2017, 04:44:23 PM
Arizona-Washington this afternoon is another must-watch for us.

I agree.

Two guys to especially watch aside from the obvious (Fultz/Markkanen) are Rawle Alkins and Alonzo Trier.

Alkins is 6'4" and 225, strong, quick and explosive. He is underrated. If Alkins guards him, this will be a good test for Fultz.

Trier, who was projected by many for the first round before the year started, has only been back 2 games from an NCAA PED suspension that allowed him to play no games before last week, even though he could travel and practice with the team.

Ainge there for this game? I thought that I heard that somewhere.

Arizona making Fultz work hard, 4-11 in the first half.  Allen is mostly matched up with him.  Markanenn with zero impact in the first half.  Washington playing good team D, beating up on the bigger Arizona team inside.
Title: Re: Sunday 1/29: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: Tr1boy on January 29, 2017, 04:44:23 PM
Watch this extended clip of Jackson vs Monk ... Shows the game as it progresses

But its all Jackson in the 2nd half. Kansas was trailing badly after the 1st as well.... The ending play by Jackson...  Ainge would approve.

https://www.youtube.com/shared?ci=0Zg7o9KKdMg
Title: Re: Sunday 1/29: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: max215 on January 29, 2017, 05:19:07 PM
DSJ getting owned by the long, quick, tough Louisville D right now. Saddled with two fouls early though.

Mitchell lighting it up early for Louisville.
DSJ is the one prospect I have no interest in.  Same thing happened to him against North Carolina.
I dont want him or Fox to be BPA because neither can play off ball or defend the 2.

Ball and Fultz can do both, making them far better fits with Isaiah/Smart.

I'd bet neither of those guys ends up top 4 according to consensus opinion come draft time, so nothing to worry about.
DX has them at 3 and 6 respectively, but I think you are right. Isaac Tatum and Jackson all seem like they could be better prospects. Especially if Isaac continues his strong play.

Yeah, I don't see Fox rising higher and expect Smith to fall a bit. I actually really like Fox, but we know what he is, and that's limited with his shot. Smith is really solid as well, but I think a lot of his success can be attributed to exceptional athleticism at the college level, which is fairly diminished in the NBA where nearly everyone is an exceptional athlete. I will say, though, that both of these guys, despite their faults, are superior prospects to Kris Dunn in my eyes, which speaks to the quality and depth of this PG class.
Title: Re: Sunday 1/29: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: chilidawg on January 29, 2017, 05:41:02 PM
Arizona-Washington this afternoon is another must-watch for us.

I agree.

Two guys to especially watch aside from the obvious (Fultz/Markkanen) are Rawle Alkins and Alonzo Trier.

Alkins is 6'4" and 225, strong, quick and explosive. He is underrated. If Alkins guards him, this will be a good test for Fultz.

Trier, who was projected by many for the first round before the year started, has only been back 2 games from an NCAA PED suspension that allowed him to play no games before last week, even though he could travel and practice with the team.

Ainge there for this game? I thought that I heard that somewhere.

Arizona making Fultz work hard, 4-11 in the first half.  Allen is mostly matched up with him.  Markanenn with zero impact in the first half.  Washington playing good team D, beating up on the bigger Arizona team inside.

Not much different in the 2nd half.  Markanen hit a couple of 3's but didn't have much impact otherwise.  Fultz continued to struggle against Allen, who I would describe as the player of the game.

Still not convinced that Fultz is a clear #1.  I'd put Ball and Jackson in the same tier, and persnonally would take either one over Fultz.

Title: Re: Sunday 1/29: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: Tr1boy on January 29, 2017, 06:09:11 PM
Arizona-Washington this afternoon is another must-watch for us.

I agree.

Two guys to especially watch aside from the obvious (Fultz/Markkanen) are Rawle Alkins and Alonzo Trier.

Alkins is 6'4" and 225, strong, quick and explosive. He is underrated. If Alkins guards him, this will be a good test for Fultz.

Trier, who was projected by many for the first round before the year started, has only been back 2 games from an NCAA PED suspension that allowed him to play no games before last week, even though he could travel and practice with the team.

Ainge there for this game? I thought that I heard that somewhere.

Arizona making Fultz work hard, 4-11 in the first half.  Allen is mostly matched up with him.  Markanenn with zero impact in the first half.  Washington playing good team D, beating up on the bigger Arizona team inside.

Not much different in the 2nd half.  Markanen hit a couple of 3's but didn't have much impact otherwise.  Fultz continued to struggle against Allen, who I would describe as the player of the game.

Still not convinced that Fultz is a clear #1.  I'd put Ball and Jackson in the same tier, and persnonally would take either one over Fultz.

Agreed. Fultz is still a nice talent...just not a magical one like many think here. I rather draft Jacksom or Isaac.

Fultz 8 for 23- 16 points
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/boxscore?gameId=400915648
Title: Re: Monday 1/30: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on January 30, 2017, 12:07:48 PM
UPDATE: Monday 1/30

Only two games, but with Duke with 5 potential draftees (shouldn't they be doing better than they are?)

7:00 ESPN    Duke/ND   Kennard(5), Allen(3), Tatum(0), Giles(1), Bolden(3)
                                   VJ Beacham(3)

9:00 ESPN    OK State   Jawun Evans(1); Oklahoma has an intersecting freshman to watch who will probably be on draft boards next year: Kristian Doolittle(11)
Title: Re: Monday 1/30: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on January 30, 2017, 07:32:23 PM
Watching local (New Bedford) product for ND outplaying everyone on Duke so far.

Bonzie Colson, a junior and Beacham, a senior, looking good early.
Title: Re: Sunday 1/29: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: tankcity! on January 30, 2017, 07:45:10 PM
Arizona-Washington this afternoon is another must-watch for us.

I agree.

Two guys to especially watch aside from the obvious (Fultz/Markkanen) are Rawle Alkins and Alonzo Trier.

Alkins is 6'4" and 225, strong, quick and explosive. He is underrated. If Alkins guards him, this will be a good test for Fultz.

Trier, who was projected by many for the first round before the year started, has only been back 2 games from an NCAA PED suspension that allowed him to play no games before last week, even though he could travel and practice with the team.

Ainge there for this game? I thought that I heard that somewhere.

Arizona making Fultz work hard, 4-11 in the first half.  Allen is mostly matched up with him.  Markanenn with zero impact in the first half.  Washington playing good team D, beating up on the bigger Arizona team inside.

Not much different in the 2nd half.  Markanen hit a couple of 3's but didn't have much impact otherwise.  Fultz continued to struggle against Allen, who I would describe as the player of the game.

Still not convinced that Fultz is a clear #1.  I'd put Ball and Jackson in the same tier, and persnonally would take either one over Fultz.

Agreed. Fultz is still a nice talent...just not a magical one like many think here. I rather draft Jacksom or Isaac.

Fultz 8 for 23- 16 points
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/boxscore?gameId=400915648

Your guy Jackson has no moves. He's just taking advantage with his height and athleticism. Winslow looked just as good on offense in college. That's the counter on him. He could be an anemic offensive player like Smart. I'd rather take my chances on Fultz and hope he turns into Harden
Title: Re: Monday 1/30: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: Bostoncelticsforlife7 on January 30, 2017, 07:59:34 PM
Man it really is upsetting watching a talent like Giles continue to perform like this... He is exactly what we need
Title: Re: Sunday 1/29: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: CelticGuardian on January 30, 2017, 08:05:40 PM
Arizona-Washington this afternoon is another must-watch for us.

I agree.

Two guys to especially watch aside from the obvious (Fultz/Markkanen) are Rawle Alkins and Alonzo Trier.

Alkins is 6'4" and 225, strong, quick and explosive. He is underrated. If Alkins guards him, this will be a good test for Fultz.

Trier, who was projected by many for the first round before the year started, has only been back 2 games from an NCAA PED suspension that allowed him to play no games before last week, even though he could travel and practice with the team.

Ainge there for this game? I thought that I heard that somewhere.

Arizona making Fultz work hard, 4-11 in the first half.  Allen is mostly matched up with him.  Markanenn with zero impact in the first half.  Washington playing good team D, beating up on the bigger Arizona team inside.

Not much different in the 2nd half.  Markanen hit a couple of 3's but didn't have much impact otherwise.  Fultz continued to struggle against Allen, who I would describe as the player of the game.

Still not convinced that Fultz is a clear #1.  I'd put Ball and Jackson in the same tier, and persnonally would take either one over Fultz.

Agreed. Fultz is still a nice talent...just not a magical one like many think here. I rather draft Jacksom or Isaac.

Fultz 8 for 23- 16 points
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/boxscore?gameId=400915648

Your guy Jackson has no moves. He's just taking advantage with his height and athleticism. Winslow looked just as good on offense in college. That's the counter on him. He could be an anemic offensive player like Smart. I'd rather take my chances on Fultz and hope he turns into Harden

What we don't need is a guy that can just do one thing or the other. One just needs to look around the league to see that the team that usually has a chance to get to the big dance has a stud that not only plays that defense, not only grabs rebounds, , or has a high BBIQ with his passing but can also create his own offense and take over a game. It is what will make this Nets pick worth all the fuzz. I see two dynamic players in college. What's out there overseas?
Title: Re: Monday 1/30: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: chilidawg on January 31, 2017, 12:24:53 AM
Watching local (New Bedford) product for ND outplaying everyone on Duke so far.

Bonzie Colson, a junior and Beacham, a senior, looking good early.

This must have been really early because Duke was up 12 at the half, won by 10.

Tatum had 19 and 14. Giles 5 and 4, and four fouls.
Title: Re: Monday 1/30: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on January 31, 2017, 09:02:26 AM
Watching local (New Bedford) product for ND outplaying everyone on Duke so far.

Bonzie Colson, a junior and Beacham, a senior, looking good early.

This must have been really early because Duke was up 12 at the half, won by 10.

Tatum had 19 and 14. Giles 5 and 4, and four fouls.

It was,.......first 4-8 minutes.

When Tatum went down, later in the game trying to sky over that guy and he got called for an offensive foul was a scary moment. Took him a long time to get up.
Title: Re: Tuesday 1/31: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on January 31, 2017, 09:16:32 AM
UPDATE: Tuesday 1/31

Prospects to watch tonight, mostly jammed up at 7:00::::


7:00 ESPN     Maryland     Melo Trimble (2)

7:00 ESPN2   UNC            Justin Jackson (44), Isaiah Hicks (4)

7:00 ESPNU   Wake          Collins (20)

7:00 FS1       Creighton    Justin Patton (23), hopefully stay out of foul trouble

9:00 ESPN     Kentucky     Fox (0), Bam (3), Monk (5)

9:00 ESPNU   A&M/Vandy  Robt Wms (44)/Kornet (3)

9:00 ESPN2   Io St           Monte Morris (11)
Title: Re: Tuesday 1/31: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on January 31, 2017, 11:41:03 PM
Malik Monk may be one dimensional, but holy crap!, is he something in that one dimension.

UK WITHOUT Fox, down to GA at Rupp for most of the game, and Monk takes over in 2nd half and then ties it to send it into OT.

Then, 2 3s from way downtown, and a deuce and two FTs, and a great alley-oop assist to 💥 Bam to dominate OT.

6pts in first half....ended up with 37.

Title: Re: Tuesday 1/31: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on February 01, 2017, 02:36:03 PM
UPDATE: Wednesday 2/1

Lot of action tonight!

6:30 BTN     Indiana     Bryant (31)

7:00 ACCN   Clemson   Blossomgame (5)

7:00 FS1     'Nova        Hart  (3)

7:30 ESPNews  KSt       Iwundu (25)

8:00 ACCN   FSU          Isaac (1), bacon (4)

8:30 BTN     Purdue      Swanigan(50)

9:00 SECN   SC            PJ Dozier  (15)

9:00 ESPNU  Texas       Jarrett Allen (31)

9:00 PAC-12 UCLA        Ball (2), Leaf (22)

9:00 ESPN2  KU/Baylor  Josh Jackson (10), Mikhailiuk (10)/Motley (5)

9:00 FS1      Xavier       Edmund Sumner (4)

11:00 ESPNU  Wash      Fultz (20)

Title: Re: Thursday 2/2: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on February 02, 2017, 10:42:01 AM
UPDATE: Thursday 2/2

Potential draftees playing tonight:

7:00 ESPN2     Florida      Robinson (1)

7:00 ESPN       Mich St     Bridges (22)

8:00 ESPN3    Valparaiso  Alec Peters (25)

9:00 ESPN2     Arizona    Markkanen(10), Alkins(1), Simmons(2), Trier(35)

9:00 FS1        Oregon    Boucher(25), Bell(1), Brooks(24), Dorsey(5)

9:00 PAC-12   Cal          Rabb (1)

Title: Re: Saturday 2/4: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: tazzmaniac on February 04, 2017, 10:26:33 AM
Prospect watching for 2/4

12:00   ESPN2    Syracuse: Lydon (20)

 1:00    CBS       Duke:   Tatum (0), Giles (1), Bolden (20), Kennard (5), Allen (3)

 1:00    ESPN3    Valparaiso:   Peters (25)

 2:00    ESPN      Kansas:    Jackson (11)

 3:00    FOX        Creighton:     Patton (23)

 3:00    ACCN      NC State:      Smith Jr (4)

 3:00    ACCN      Louisville:    Mitchell (45)

 3:00   ACCN       Wake Forest:  Collins (20)

 3:00   ESPNN     Baylor:  Motley (5)

 4:00    ESPN      Arizona vs Oregon:  Markkanen (10), Trier (35), Simmons (2)

 8:00    CBSSN    Villanova:     Hart (3)

 8:15    ESPN      Kentucky:   Fox (0), Monk (5), Bam (3)

 9:00    ESPNU   Texas A&M:    Williams (44)

 9:15    PAC12    UCLA vs Washington:    Ball (2), Leaf (22)  / Fultz (20)
Title: Re: Saturday 2/4: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: A Future of Stevens on February 04, 2017, 10:29:12 AM
Im a little p---ed that I cant access the Washington-UCLA game. Is the PAC 12 broadcast on channels in the Northeast? Lol
Title: Re: Saturday 2/4: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on February 04, 2017, 10:31:25 AM
Im a little p---ed that I cant access the Washington-UCLA game. Is the PAC 12 broadcast on channels in the Northeast? Lol

I get it here just north of Boston on Comcast xfinity sports package.
Title: Re: Saturday 2/4: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: footey on February 04, 2017, 11:20:21 AM
Can't believe Washington UCLA isn't nationally broadcast. Two best players in upcoming draft facing each other. Dumb.
Title: Re: Saturday 2/4: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: KG Living Legend on February 04, 2017, 11:27:50 AM
Can't believe Washington UCLA isn't nationally broadcast. Two best players in upcoming draft facing each other. Dumb.


 Tell me about it.


 I'm going to stream this game on reddit tonight. If someone has a better stream please post here.
Title: Re: Saturday 2/4: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on February 04, 2017, 11:39:36 AM
Can't believe Washington UCLA isn't nationally broadcast. Two best players in upcoming draft facing each other. Dumb.


 Tell me about it.


 I'm going to stream this game on reddit tonight. If someone has a better stream please post here.

I can understand the major networks not carrying the game as it is at 10:30, but why not one of the ESPNs?

Maybe it's a PAC-12N rights thing.
Title: Re: Saturday 2/4: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: Ogaju on February 04, 2017, 12:13:56 PM
PAC12 commissioner is incompetent. He does not get the conference good deals at all. The Pac12 is making bad deals, and the conference is not winning any more. It is time to get a commissioner that will make the PAC12 great again.
Title: Re: Saturday 2/4: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on February 04, 2017, 03:27:15 PM
Caleb Swanigan increasing his draft stick putting up 26/10 today vs MD.

Game was on at noon. Anybody else watch?

EDIT: Also, Frank Mason and Monte Morris in a duel at Lawrence.
Title: Re: Saturday 2/4: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: chilidawg on February 04, 2017, 05:38:21 PM
Caleb Swanigan increasing his draft stick putting up 26/10 today vs MD.

Game was on at noon. Anybody else watch?

EDIT: Also, Frank Mason and Monte Morris in a duel at Lawrence.

Mason and Morris will both end up having good careers in the Assosciation.

Arizona getting absolutely pummeled by Oregon.  Markannen has been matched up with Dillon Brooks and just has no chance defensively.  Oregon up 69-32 midway second half.
Title: Re: Saturday 2/4: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on February 04, 2017, 07:26:35 PM
Caleb Swanigan increasing his draft stick putting up 26/10 today vs MD.

Game was on at noon. Anybody else watch?

EDIT: Also, Frank Mason and Monte Morris in a duel at Lawrence.

Mason and Morris will both end up having good careers in the Assosciation.

Arizona getting absolutely pummeled by Oregon.  Markannen has been matched up with Dillon Brooks and just has no chance defensively.  Oregon up 69-32 midway second half.

Yeah, Morris has been in my updates for awhile. So has Swanigan.  Gonna have to add Mason.

 And don't sleep on that Oregon team. They beat UCLA up in Eugene and whipped the crap out of Arizona today, the supposed two best teams in the conference. They will make some serious noise in the NCAAs.

They have four players who could be drafted, and I've been listing them in the updates also for a long time. Brooks, Boucher, Bell and Dorsey.

EDIT: And TP and congrats on your 1000's post!!!
Title: Re: Saturday 2/4: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: KG Living Legend on February 04, 2017, 10:45:24 PM

 Fultz vs Lonzo Ball Live right now. Watch it here.

 http://www.DO NOT SHARE COPYRIGHTED STREAMStv.me/basketball/451788/1/ucla-at-washington-stream.html
Title: Re: Saturday 2/4: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on February 04, 2017, 10:48:45 PM

 Fultz vs Lonzo Ball Live right now. Watch it here.

 http://www.DO NOT SHARE COPYRIGHTED STREAMStv.me/basketball/451788/1/ucla-at-washington-stream.html

Fultz in a "win-win"  situation here. If he outplays Ball, he's better, if he doesn't the excuse is Ball has the far superior supporting cast .

Good player on a bad team. Hard to gauge Fultz for me.
Title: Re: Saturday 2/4: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: Denis998 on February 04, 2017, 10:52:11 PM

 Fultz vs Lonzo Ball Live right now. Watch it here.

 http://www.DO NOT SHARE COPYRIGHTED STREAMStv.me/basketball/451788/1/ucla-at-washington-stream.html

Fultz in a "win-win"  situation here. If he outplays Ball, he's better, if he doesn't the excuse is Ball has the far superior supporting cast .

Good player on a bad team. Hard to gauge Fultz for me.
Just watching the game, Fultz's team really is terrible. Fultz went up for the 3 comming off the screen, and the big that set the screen just gave up on it leading to Ball blocking the shot.
Title: Re: Saturday 2/4: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: KG Living Legend on February 04, 2017, 10:55:32 PM

 Fultz vs Lonzo Ball Live right now. Watch it here.

 http://www.DO NOT SHARE COPYRIGHTED STREAMStv.me/basketball/451788/1/ucla-at-washington-stream.html

Fultz in a "win-win"  situation here. If he outplays Ball, he's better, if he doesn't the excuse is Ball has the far superior supporting cast .

Good player on a bad team. Hard to gauge Fultz for me.
Just watching the game, Fultz's team really is terrible. Fultz went up for the 3 comming off the screen, and the big that set the screen just gave up on it leading to Ball blocking the shot.



 Would you say that Ball is the better player slash better winner slash more ready to bring wins to the Celtics right now.
Title: Re: Saturday 2/4: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on February 04, 2017, 11:00:36 PM

 Fultz vs Lonzo Ball Live right now. Watch it here.

 http://www.DO NOT SHARE COPYRIGHTED STREAMStv.me/basketball/451788/1/ucla-at-washington-stream.html

Fultz in a "win-win"  situation here. If he outplays Ball, he's better, if he doesn't the excuse is Ball has the far superior supporting cast .

Good player on a bad team. Hard to gauge Fultz for me.
Just watching the game, Fultz's team really is terrible. Fultz went up for the 3 comming off the screen, and the big that set the screen just gave up on it leading to Ball blocking the shot.



 Would you say that Ball is the better player slash better winner slash more ready to bring wins to the Celtics right now.

I would and have felt this way for awhile..
Title: Re: Saturday 2/4: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: KG Living Legend on February 04, 2017, 11:02:45 PM

 Fultz vs Lonzo Ball Live right now. Watch it here.

 http://www.DO NOT SHARE COPYRIGHTED STREAMStv.me/basketball/451788/1/ucla-at-washington-stream.html

Fultz in a "win-win"  situation here. If he outplays Ball, he's better, if he doesn't the excuse is Ball has the far superior supporting cast .

Good player on a bad team. Hard to gauge Fultz for me.
Just watching the game, Fultz's team really is terrible. Fultz went up for the 3 comming off the screen, and the big that set the screen just gave up on it leading to Ball blocking the shot.



 Would you say that Ball is the better player slash better winner slash more ready to bring wins to the Celtics right now.

I would and have felt this way for awhile..




 My Brother! That's a TP right there my good Man!



 Fultzs talent is undeniable. It's his lack of passion and casual approach I think is his only weaknesses.
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Post by: csfansince60s on February 05, 2017, 11:33:43 AM
UPDATE: Sunday 2/5 SUPER SUNDAY!!!!!!!!

Draftees to watch (small slate because of THE BOWL):



12:30 ESPNU        Clemson/FSU     Isaac (1), Bacon (4)/Blossomgame (5)

1:00  CBS             Indiana             Bryant (31)

1:00 ESPNews       UNC/ND            Justin Jackson (44), I. Hicks (4)

2:00 BTN              Iowa                 Peter Jok (14)

4:30 ESPN            California          Rabb (1)
Title: Re: Saturday 2/4: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: tankcity! on February 05, 2017, 11:47:17 AM

 Fultz vs Lonzo Ball Live right now. Watch it here.

 http://www.DO NOT SHARE COPYRIGHTED STREAMStv.me/basketball/451788/1/ucla-at-washington-stream.html

Fultz in a "win-win"  situation here. If he outplays Ball, he's better, if he doesn't the excuse is Ball has the far superior supporting cast .

Good player on a bad team. Hard to gauge Fultz for me.
Just watching the game, Fultz's team really is terrible. Fultz went up for the 3 comming off the screen, and the big that set the screen just gave up on it leading to Ball blocking the shot.



 Would you say that Ball is the better player slash better winner slash more ready to bring wins to the Celtics right now.

I would and have felt this way for awhile..

I wasn't sure what to make of the game between the top two prospects. I preferred Fultz going in but Ball was impressive. I wish he could do something about his shot release. You've been watching these games, and you found Patton, so I think you're right on Ball.
Title: Re: Saturday 2/4: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on February 05, 2017, 11:53:20 AM

 Fultz vs Lonzo Ball Live right now. Watch it here.

 http://www.DO NOT SHARE COPYRIGHTED STREAMStv.me/basketball/451788/1/ucla-at-washington-stream.html

Fultz in a "win-win"  situation here. If he outplays Ball, he's better, if he doesn't the excuse is Ball has the far superior supporting cast .

Good player on a bad team. Hard to gauge Fultz for me.
Just watching the game, Fultz's team really is terrible. Fultz went up for the 3 comming off the screen, and the big that set the screen just gave up on it leading to Ball blocking the shot.



 Would you say that Ball is the better player slash better winner slash more ready to bring wins to the Celtics right now.

I would and have felt this way for awhile..

I wasn't sure what to make of the game between the top two prospects. I preferred Fultz going in but Ball was impressive. I wish he could do something about his shot release. You've been watching these games, and you found Patton, so I think you're right on Ball.

Thanks, I hope that I am.

The "clutch gene" is the other variable here. Ball has it in spades.

Fultz, I'm not sure about. I'm not saying that he doesn't have it, but that there have been very few instances this year when the game was on the line and he had to come through. And, Washington sucks so bad that they wont make the NCAAs, so we won't see him under pressure there either.
Title: Re: Sunday 2/5: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on February 06, 2017, 11:47:33 AM
UPDATE: Monday 2/6

Just a couple of games tonight:

7:00 ESPN     Louisville       Mitchell (45)

9:00 ESPN     KU/KSt         Josh Jackson (10), Mikhailiuk (11)/Iwundu (25)
Title: Re: Sunday 2/5: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: The One on February 06, 2017, 12:32:03 PM
UPDATE: Monday 2/6

Just a couple of games tonight:

7:00 ESPN     Louisville       Mitchell (45)

9:00 ESPN     KU/KSt         Josh Jackson (10), Mikhailiuk (11)/Iwundu (25)

TP to you!

I wonder what Josh Jackson has to do to be considered for the #1 spot.
Title: Re: Monday 2/6: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on February 06, 2017, 01:26:47 PM
UPDATE: Monday 2/6

Just a couple of games tonight:

7:00 ESPN     Louisville       Mitchell (45)

9:00 ESPN     KU/KSt         Josh Jackson (10), Mikhailiuk (11)/Iwundu (25)

TP to you!

I wonder what Josh Jackson has to do to be considered for the #1 spot.






I hope Jackson gets there soon, because he has ALMOST every skill to be the #1 rated prospect, and the rest of his game/attributes are elite, including his "heart".

The only (I know it's a big ONLY for a lot of people on here, especially with Danny's propensity to draft athletic, high IQ, coachable, fiery players who aren't exactly great shooters) thing holding him back from being #1 is his shot.

55% free-throw shooting gives a lot of people pause to select him#1.

There is hope, though, especially regarding his 3pt%. He stands at 33% for the season, and he is improving. He is 13/33 at 39% in his last 10 games and 11/21 at 52% in his last 5 games.

Let's hope he keeps showing improvement. I'd love to see him at #1, but Fultz seems pretty entrenched there.

And TP back atcha..
Title: Re: Sunday 2/5: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: A Future of Stevens on February 06, 2017, 01:42:19 PM
UPDATE: Monday 2/6

Just a couple of games tonight:

7:00 ESPN     Louisville       Mitchell (45)

9:00 ESPN     KU/KSt         Josh Jackson (10), Mikhailiuk (11)/Iwundu (25)

TP to you!

I wonder what Josh Jackson has to do to be considered for the #1 spot.

One analysis of him I saw made the comment "He would have gone #1 ten years ago." I think that blurb accurately represents where he is. He is great at everything except shooting, and since the league has trended toward shooting, he is devalued.

It's not even just that his numbers are bad, his shot looks like it has fundamental flaws. His hitch is nasty.

Other than drastically altering his shot, he doesn't have a shot at #1 right now.
Title: Re: Sunday 2/5: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: KG Living Legend on February 06, 2017, 02:01:20 PM
UPDATE: Monday 2/6

Just a couple of games tonight:

7:00 ESPN     Louisville       Mitchell (45)

9:00 ESPN     KU/KSt         Josh Jackson (10), Mikhailiuk (11)/Iwundu (25)

TP to you!

I wonder what Josh Jackson has to do to be considered for the #1 spot.

One analysis of him I saw made the comment "He would have gone #1 ten years ago." I think that blurb accurately represents where he is. He is great at everything except shooting, and since the league has trended toward shooting, he is devalued.

It's not even just that his numbers are bad, his shot looks like it has fundamental flaws. His hitch is nasty.

Other than drastically altering his shot, he doesn't have a shot at #1 right now.


 Ball at least has a shot at #1 overall and his shot is worse than Jackson's. But it goes in like Steph Curry's does.
Title: Re: Sunday 2/5: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: chilidawg on February 06, 2017, 03:00:13 PM
UPDATE: Monday 2/6

Just a couple of games tonight:

7:00 ESPN     Louisville       Mitchell (45)

9:00 ESPN     KU/KSt         Josh Jackson (10), Mikhailiuk (11)/Iwundu (25)

TP to you!

I wonder what Josh Jackson has to do to be considered for the #1 spot.

Improve his free throw shooting, which seems to be the best predictor of future shooting success.
Title: Re: Monday 2/6: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: green_bballers13 on February 06, 2017, 03:01:12 PM
If we are to knock Jackson's shooting mechanics, I don't see how we can give Ball a pass. Both have unorthodox shots. Whether or not they will be able to maintain such mechanics in the NBA will be seen. Both appear to be great athletes, and are young enough to make changes.

I still prefer Fultz, Jackson, Ball, Isaac, and Tatum in that order.

Likely upsides:

Fultz- taller Lillard/Harden w some D (hopefully)
Ball- Jason Kidd
Jackson- Kawhi
Isaac- Rashard Lewis
Tatum- Pierce
Title: Re: Sunday 2/5: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: CelticGuardian on February 06, 2017, 03:06:36 PM
UPDATE: Monday 2/6

Just a couple of games tonight:

7:00 ESPN     Louisville       Mitchell (45)

9:00 ESPN     KU/KSt         Josh Jackson (10), Mikhailiuk (11)/Iwundu (25)

TP to you!

I wonder what Josh Jackson has to do to be considered for the #1 spot.

One analysis of him I saw made the comment "He would have gone #1 ten years ago." I think that blurb accurately represents where he is. He is great at everything except shooting, and since the league has trended toward shooting, he is devalued.

It's not even just that his numbers are bad, his shot looks like it has fundamental flaws. His hitch is nasty.

Other than drastically altering his shot, he doesn't have a shot at #1 right now.


 Ball at least has a shot at #1 overall and his shot is worse than Jackson's. But it goes in like Steph Curry's does.

Not like Curry's. Catch and shoot yeah, but no pull ups or moving threes. If there are highlights they are usually awkward AF and Ball is usually laying on the floor because he's leaning back so much on those type of shots, his balance goes out the window taking contested shots.
Title: Re: Tuesday 2/7: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on February 07, 2017, 11:19:28 AM
UPDATE: Tuesday 2/7

Draftees playing tonight:

6:00 BTN       MD     Melo Trimble (2)

6:30 SECN     SC   PJ Dozier (15)

7:00 ESPN2   FLA    Robinson (1)

7:00 ESPN     KY     Fox (0), Bam, (3), Monk (5)

7:00 ESPNews  Wake/ND    Collins (20)/VJ Beacham (3)

7:00 FS1      'Nova  Josh Hart (4)

8:00 ACCN    Syr/Clem   Lydon(20)/Blossomgame (5)

8:30 SECN    Vandy       Luke Kornet (3)

9:00 ESPN2   IO ST/Tex   Monte Morris (11)/Jarret Allen (31)

9:00 ESPN2   Mich St     Bridges (22)
Title: Re: Wednesday 2/8: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on February 08, 2017, 12:23:37 PM
UPDATE: Wednesday 2/8

Potential draftees playing today:



7:00 ESPN2     NCSt/FSU     DSJ (4), Yurtseven(14)/Isaac(1), Bacon (4)

7:00 ESPN       Baylor/OKSt  Motley (5)/Jawun Evans (1)

8:30 SECN       A&M             Robt Williams (44)

9:00 BTN        Iowa             Jok (14)

11:00 ESPNU   Cal               Rabb (1)

11:00 FS1       Arizona         Markkanen(10), Alkins (1), Simmons (2), Trier (35)

11:00 CBSSN  Nevada         Cam Oliver (0)

Title: Re: Wednesday 2/8: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on February 08, 2017, 07:33:41 PM
Jonathan Isaac looking more and more like a top 3 player.

Got FSU's first seven points.....blocks, steals, pressing.

DSJ getting swallowed up early.

Lot of bball to go, but FSU really dominating.
Title: Re: Thursday 2/9: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on February 09, 2017, 01:15:13 PM
UPDATE: Thursday 2/9

7:00 ESPN2     Purdue/Indiana     Swanigan(50)/Bryant(31) battle of the BIGS!!

8:00 ESPN       UNC/Duke    JustinJackson(44), I Hicks(4)/Tatum(0), Giles(1), Allen(3), Kennard (5), Bolden (20)......Tobacco Road battle...Duke with more raw talent/UNC with the better team

8:00 ESPN3   Valparaiso      Alec Peters (25)

10:00 FS1     Washington   Fultz (20)

10:00 ESPN   UCLA/Oregon Ball(2), Leaf(22)/Boucher(25), Bell(1), Brooks(24), Dorsey (5).....BEST GAME OF THE NIGHT....UCLA wants revenge for getting beaten up in Eugene....Oregon has a lot of underrated talent, so it will be a good test for Ball and Co.

Last night: Issac in my top 4 now: Last night 21 pts 7 'bounds in 24 minutes; DSJ 8 points/6 asst in 35 minutes not very impressive.

Fultz and DSJ have the same excuses made for them: they're on bad teams so they get no help. That IS one way of looking at it. And then there's another.

   
Title: Re: Thursday 2/9: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on February 10, 2017, 12:05:51 AM
UCLA down 19, come back and win led by Lonzo Ball.

18/11 huge in crunch time>>>>>CLUTCH GENE.

The game lived up to its billing. Both potential elite 8 teams.

Anybody watch Fultz tonite?
Title: Re: Thursday 2/9: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: max215 on February 10, 2017, 12:09:41 AM
UCLA down 19, come back and win led by Lonzo Ball.

18/11 huge in crunch time>>>>>CLUTCH GENE.

The game lived up to its billing. Both potential elite 8 teams.

Anybody watch Fultz tonite?

He didn't play; Washington got bludgeoned.
Title: Re: Thursday 2/9: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on February 10, 2017, 12:18:06 AM
UCLA down 19, come back and win led by Lonzo Ball.

18/11 huge in crunch time>>>>>CLUTCH GENE.

The game lived up to its billing. Both potential elite 8 teams.

Anybody watch Fultz tonite?

He didn't play; Washington got bludgeoned.

TP....thanks for the info....Injured?

Colorado is a pretty good team. Underrated.

PAC-12 is a pretty impressive conference this year.
Title: Re: Thursday 2/9: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: max215 on February 10, 2017, 12:26:51 AM
UCLA down 19, come back and win led by Lonzo Ball.

18/11 huge in crunch time>>>>>CLUTCH GENE.

The game lived up to its billing. Both potential elite 8 teams.

Anybody watch Fultz tonite?

He didn't play; Washington got bludgeoned.

TP....thanks for the info....Injured?

Colorado is a pretty good team. Underrated.

PAC-12 is a pretty impressive conference this year.

Sore knee IIRC. It doesn't sound serious.
Title: Re: Friday 2/10: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on February 10, 2017, 11:11:22 AM
UPDATE: Friday 2/10

NO GAMES WITH POTENTIAL DRAFTEES TONIGHT

Mainly Ivies and small unranked schools.

Big day, tomorrow, Saturday. 21 games to watch!!!
Title: Re: Saturday 2/11: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on February 11, 2017, 09:36:22 AM
UPDATE: Saturday 2/11

SO MANY GAMES, SO LITTLE TIME!!

Lots of games and potential draftees to look at today!!!

12:00 ESPN2      A&M/FLA          Robt Wms (44)/Robinson (1)

12:00 ACCN       NCSt/Wake       DSJ (4), Yurtseven (14)/Collins (20)

12:00 ESPN        KSt                  Wesley Iwundu (25)

1:00   CBS         KY                   Fox (0), Bam (3), Monk (5)

1:00  ACCn       Syracuse           Lydon (20)   

1:00  ACCN       Clem/Duke        Blossomgame (5)/Tatum(0), Giles (1), Allen(3), Kennard (5), Bolden (20)

2:00  ESPNU      Baylor              Motley (5)

2:00  ESPN        Kansas            Josh Jackson (11), Mikhailiuk (10)

2:00  FS1          Creighton        Justin Patton (23)

2:30 FOX          'Nova               Josh Hart  (3)

3:30 SECN        Vandy              Luke Kornet (3)

4:00 ESPN2      Tex/OKSt          Jarrett Allen (31)/Jawun Evans (1)

4:00 ESPN        Maryland           Melo Trimble  (2)

4:30 FS1          Washington      Fultz (20)

6:00 BTN        IO/MSU             Jok (14)/Bridges (22)

6:00 ESPN       FSU/ND            Isaac (1), Bacon (4)/VJ Beacham (3)

6:00 ESPN2     Iowa State        Monte Morris (11)

8:00 ESPN2    South Car          PJ Dozier (15)

8:00 ESPN3    Valparaiso          Alec Peters (25)

10:00 ESPN2  Arizona             Markkanen(10), Alkins (1), Simmons (2), Trier (35)

10:30 PAC-12 Oregon             Boucher(25), Bell (1), Brooks (24), Dorsey (5)






       

Title: Re: Saturday 2/11: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on February 11, 2017, 08:04:32 PM
Anybody watch Florida State get annihilated by Notre Dame?

I missed it, but I was wondering how VJ Beacham played?
Title: Re: Saturday 2/11: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: Ilikesports17 on February 11, 2017, 08:08:01 PM
Anybody watch Florida State get annihilated by Notre Dame?

I missed it, but I was wondering how VJ Beacham played?
Beachem was unremarkable, Isaac was awful and Bonzie Colson looked like Charles Barkley.

33 and 13 for the big fella.
Title: Re: Saturday 2/11: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on February 11, 2017, 08:43:40 PM
Anybody watch Florida State get annihilated by Notre Dame?

I missed it, but I was wondering how VJ Beacham played?
Beachem was unremarkable, Isaac was awful and Bonzie Colson looked like Charles Barkley.

33 and 13 for the big fella.

TP, thanks for the info.

Colson is a local boy from New Bedford. He looked good vs Duke early in the game about two weeks ago.

Watching South Carolina, and Sindarius Thornwell is someone I'm going to have to add to the Updates.

He had 44pts and 22 TRB (10 ORB) in his last game, the announcers said, and he has 15 of SC's first 17 tonight. He was one of 4 candidates for SEC player of the year, according to the commentators, along with Monk, Fox and Matin (maybe I have to include him too) from Georgia.

EDIT: Thornwell's massive game was in a quadruple OT loss to 'Bama where he broke Pistol Pete's SEC FT record with 25 made. That must've been a helluva game.
Title: Re: Sunday 2/12: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on February 12, 2017, 11:04:48 AM
UPDATE: Sunday 2/12

Only 4 games with potential draftees; one new guy to check out. (new to updates)

1:00 CBS      Indiana        Thomas Bryant (31)

2:00 CBSSN  Memphis      Dedric Lawson (1)*********

4:00 CBSSN  Nevada        Cam Oliver (0)

5:00 FS1       UCLA           Ball (2), Leaf (22)


*********Dedric Lawson-6'8'', 225 with 7'2" wingspan 19.37 year old Soph

35mpg  19.5ppg/ 10.1rpg/3.5apg/ 2.3bpg/1.4spg/74%FT but only .258 from 3
stat stuffer SF/PF with great body control, averages only 2.6 PF  in 35 minutes
Title: Re: Monday 2/13: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on February 13, 2017, 01:13:30 PM
UPDATE: Monday 2/13

Potential draftees for tonight:

7:00 ESPN     Syracuse/Louisville    Tyler Lydon (20), Donovan Mitchell (45)

7:00 ESPNU   Baylor                      Jonathan Motley (5)

9:00 ESPN     Kansas                   Josh Jackson(11), Mikhailiuk(10), Frank Mason(0)

9:00 CBSSN  Villanova                  Josh Hart (3)



Title: Re: Tuesday 2/14: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on February 14, 2017, 10:49:53 AM
UPDATE: Tuesday 2/14

7:00 SECN     Florida       Robinson (1)

7:00 ESPN     Kentucky    Fox (0), Bam (3), Monk (5)

7:00 BTN       Purdue      Swanigan (50)

7:00 ESPNU   Notre Dame  VJ Beacham (3), Bonzie Colson (35)

7:00 ACCN    Wake/Clem   Collins (20), Blossomgame (5)

9:00 ESPNU   Georgia      Yante Maten (1)

9:00 ESPN2   Texas         Jarrett Allen (31)

9:00 ESPN    Mich St       Miles Bridges (22)
Title: Re: Tuesday 2/14: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: The One on February 14, 2017, 11:21:13 AM
UPDATE: Tuesday 2/14

7:00 SECN     Florida       Robinson (1)

7:00 ESPN     Kentucky    Fox (0), Bam (3), Monk (5)

7:00 BTN       Purdue      Swanigan (50)

7:00 ESPNU   Notre Dame  VJ Beacham (3), Bonzie Colson (35)

7:00 ACCN    Wake/Clem   Collins (20), Blossomgame (5)

9:00 ESPNU   Georgia      Yante Maten (1)

9:00 ESPN2   Texas         Jarrett Allen (31)

9:00 ESPN    Mich St       Miles Bridges (22)

TP for the yeoman's work on this!

Hope my man Biggie Swanigan can keep the double-doubles rolling!
Title: Re: Tuesday 2/14: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on February 14, 2017, 06:24:45 PM

TP for the yeoman's work on this!

Hope my man Biggie Swanigan can keep the double-doubles rolling!

TP back atcha! Glad people are checking the prospects out and watching these games. I am learning a lot. i have added some new names. Funny, but there are a lot of players who are in nbadraft.net and not draftexpress and vice versa. Lot of talent this year. My head is spinning.

In watching the South Carolina game for VJ Dozier who is in the mocks and in the broadcast learned about Sindarius Thornwell and Georgia's Maten who were listed with Monk and Fox as the 4 candidates for SEC Player of the Year. So now I'm including them.

Your guy Swanigan dominated Bryant and Indiana last week. Good call!!

Check out New Bedford's Bonzie for ND tonight. Entertaining to watch...will go in the late second probably, but he is a high energy guy and fun to watch. Collins and Allen really playing well too.

EDIT: It blows my head that we are getting one of Fultz/Ball/Jackson(my current favorite)/Isaac(maybe top 3)/Tatum.
Title: Re: Tuesday 2/14: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: tazzmaniac on February 14, 2017, 07:22:36 PM

TP for the yeoman's work on this!

Hope my man Biggie Swanigan can keep the double-doubles rolling!

TP back atcha! Glad people are checking the prospects out and watching these games. I am learning a lot. i have added some new names. Funny, but there are a lot of players who are in nbadraft.net and not draftexpress and vice versa. Lot of talent this year. My head is spinning.

In watching the South Carolina game for VJ Dozier who is in the mocks and in the broadcast learned about Syndavious Thornwell and Georgia's Maten who were listed with Monk and Fox as the 4 candidates for SEC Player of the Year. So now I'm including them.

Your guy Swanigan dominated Bryant and Indiana last week. Good call!!

Check out New Bedford's Bonzie for ND tonight. Entertaining to watch...will go in the late second probably, but he is a high energy guy and fun to watch. Collins and Allen really playing well too.

EDIT: It blows my head that we are getting one of Fultz/Ball/Jackson(my current favorite)/Isaac(maybe top 3)/Tatum.
Those are my top 5 but probably have Jackson ahead of Ball.  Considering all the talent it is not surprising that NBADraft.net and DraftExpress has significant differences.  I'd expect the teams' draft boards to vary more than usual. 
Title: Re: Tuesday 2/14: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on February 14, 2017, 07:37:47 PM
I agree.....

So much talent.......it's going to be a real exciting draft.....so many different foreign players too in all the mocks. So you're exactly right in that teams big boards will be very different after the first 5 or so.

I think more 2nd rounders will make teams than usual.

NCAAs should be cool too with players stock rising and falling.

Even now is cool getting to watch players values change.

Too bad we won't be able to watch Fultz......maybe Washington gets an NIT bid and we can see him there.
Title: Re: Wednesday 2/15: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on February 15, 2017, 01:03:24 PM
UPDATE: Wednesday 2/15

6:30 CBSSN     South Carolina      Sindarius Thornwell (0), PJ Dozier (15)

7:00 BTN         Maryland              Melo Trimble (2)

7:00 ESPN2     IOSt/KSt              Morris (11)/Iwundu (25)

8:00 ACCN      UNC/NCSt            Jackson (44), I Hicks (4)/DSJ (4), Yurtseven (14)

8:00 CBSSN    Creighton             Justin Patton (23)

9:00 ESPN2     Duke                   Tatum(0), Giles(1), Allen(3), Kennard(5), Bolden(20)

9:00 BTN        Indiana                Bryant (31)

9:00 ESPNU    OKSt                   Jawun Evans (1)

9:00 ESPN3    Nevada                Cam Oliver (0)

10:00 CBSSN SDSt                    Malik Pope (21) 
Title: Re: Wednesday 2/15: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: saltlover on February 15, 2017, 01:08:57 PM
Giles is barely involved at this point.  At some point it almost seems fruitless to list him.  His draft prospects are becoming ever more questionable, and there's little to see in games anyway.
Title: Re: Wednesday 2/15: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on February 15, 2017, 01:26:32 PM
Giles is barely involved at this point.  At some point it almost seems fruitless to list him.  His draft prospects are becoming ever more questionable, and there's little to see in games anyway.

I agree. Sad state of affairs for him.

Wonder if he'll come out. I think someone will take a chance with him late first. Maybe if he has a  promise, he'll come out. That guaranteed money will be too much for him to pass up.
Title: Re: Wednesday 2/15: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: tazzmaniac on February 15, 2017, 07:27:52 PM
Giles is barely involved at this point.  At some point it almost seems fruitless to list him.  His draft prospects are becoming ever more questionable, and there's little to see in games anyway.

I agree. Sad state of affairs for him.

Wonder if he'll come out. I think someone will take a chance with him late first. Maybe if he has a  promise, he'll come out. That guaranteed money will be too much for him to pass up.
Giles and Bolden seem to play in the 1st halves but then the rotation gets shortened in the 2nd halves.  Also depends on the team they are playing.  Against North Carolina, I think Giles and Bolden were on the court at the same time. 

If Giles gets assessed as a probable mid 1st pick, I think he'll come out.  If he's assessed as a late 1st, he'll probably return to Duke. 
Title: Re: Wednesday 2/15: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on February 16, 2017, 02:34:22 PM
They are getting real short minutes.

Big decision for Giles.....life changing, potentially.

It's a gamble either way. If he gets a promise late first round and he decides to do another year at Duke to increase his value and then gets hurt again, he's screwed.

If he comes out and gets picked late first, while that's guaranteed $$$, if he returns to form and approaches his potential, he'll be working for peanuts (relatively speaking) and he'll be locked up for 3-4 years and probably won't be a happy camper.

If I were he, if I'm guaranteed even a late first, I'm coming out and taking the $$$, because there is a chance he could never play again.

Tough, tough decision.
Title: Re: Thursday 2/16: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on February 16, 2017, 02:43:28 PM
UPDATE: Thursday 2/16

Not many games tonight. Fultz is a gametime decision:


7:00 ESPN2      A&M/Vandy      Robert Williams (44)/Luke Kornet (3)

9:00 FS1          Arizona           Markkanen(10), Alkins(1), Simmons(2),Trier(35)

9:00 ESPN        Oregon           Boucher(25), Bell(1), Brooks(24), Dorsey (5)

9:00 ESPN2      Memphis         Dedric Lawson (0)*********

11:00 FS1        Washington    Fultz (20)?????


*********Dedric Lawson-6'8'', 225 with 7'2" wingspan 19.37 year old Soph     
Title: Re: Friday 2/17: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on February 17, 2017, 10:02:45 AM
UPDATE: Friday 2/17

Only 2 games tonight:

7:00 ESPN2        Valparaiso           Alec Peters (25)

10:00 FS1          California             Rabb (1)
Title: Re: Saturday 2/18: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on February 18, 2017, 10:54:35 AM
UPDATE: Saturday 2/18

Enjoy today, guys: lots of games to keep you occupied.

12:00 ACCN      Clemson     Blossomgame (5)

12:00 ESPN      ND/NCSt     VJ Beacham (3), Bonzie(35)/DSJ (4), Yurtseven (14)

12:30 Fox         Villanova     Josh Hart (3)

1:00  ACCN       Duke           Tatum (0), Giles (1), Allen (3), Kennard (5), Bolden (20)

1:00  ACCN       Louisville     Donovan Mitchell (45)

1:00  CBS         Kansas/Baylor  Josh Jackson (11), Mikhailiuk (10)/Motley (5)

2:00 LHN         Texas           Jarrett Allen (31)

2:00 BTN          Iowa           Peter Jok (14)

3:00 FOX          Oregon        Bell (1), Boucher (25), Brooks (24), Dorsey (5)

4:00 ESPNU      A&M            Robert Williams (44)

4:00 ESPN       Mich St/Purdue    Miles Bridges (22)/Caleb Swanigan (50)

4:00 ESPN2      Florida State   Isaac (1), Bacon (4)

6:00 ESPN  Kentucky/ GA    Fox (0), Bam (3), Monk (5)/  Yante Maten (1)

6:00 ESPNews  Iowa State    Monte Morris (11)

8:00 ESPN2     AZ/Wash      Markkanen (10), Alkins (1), Simmons (2),Trier(35)/ Fultz (20)

8:00 ESPNU      Ok St         Jawun Evans (1)

8:15 ESPN       UNC          Justin Jackson (44), I Hicks (4)

8:30 SECN      SC/Vandy    Sindarius Thornwell (0)*******,PJ Dozier (15)/ Luke Kornet (3)

10:00 PAC-12   UCLA         Ball (2), Leaf (22)


************Thornwell had massive 44/22 vs 'Bama in 4OT loss
Title: Re: Sunday 2/19: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on February 19, 2017, 09:03:07 AM
UPDATE: Sunday 2/19

Potential draftees today:


12:00  CBS     Maryland         Melo Trimble (2)

2:00   ESPN3   Valparaiso        Alec Peters (25)

3:30   FS1      Creighton       Justin Patton (23)

4:00   CBSSN  SD St            Malik Pope (21)

6:30 ESPNU    Syracuse        Tyler Lydon (20)   
Title: Re: Sunday 2/19: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on February 20, 2017, 08:46:24 AM
UPDATE: Monday 2/20

How about a little distraction from Boogie Fever/Hangover:

Potential draftees playing today:



7:00 ESPNU           Florida St          Isaac (1), Bacon (4)

9:00 ESPN             Texas               Jarrett Allen (31)

9:00 ESPNU           Iowa St            Monte Morris (11)
Title: Re: Tuesday 2/21: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on February 21, 2017, 10:47:47 AM
UPDATE: Tuesday 2/21

6:00 BTN        Purdue          Swanigan (50)

7:00 SECN     SC/FLA          Thornwell (0), PJ Dozier (15)/Devin Robinson

7:00 ESPNU   Clemson       Blossomgame (5)

7:00 ESPN2   Baylor           Motley (5)

8:00 ACCN    NCSt/GT        DSJ (4), Yurtseven (14)/Ben Lammers (44)

8:00 ESPN3  Valparaiso     Alec Peters (25)

9:00 SECN    KY                Fox (0), Bam (3), Monk(5)

9:00 ESPN    Ind/IO          Bryant (31)/Jok (14)




Title: Re: Tuesday 2/21: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: Phantom255x on February 21, 2017, 10:51:23 AM
I wonder if this is going to continue after Thursday IF they trade the 2017 Nets Pick.

I doubt they do but who knows.
Title: Re: Tuesday 2/21: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on February 21, 2017, 08:15:22 PM
I wonder if this is going to continue after Thursday IF they trade the 2017 Nets Pick.

I doubt they do but who knows.

If they trade it, and I don't think that they will, I can do something on late firsts and second rounders.

Great question...hadn't thought of it. TP
Title: Re: Tuesday 2/21: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: Phantom255x on February 21, 2017, 08:23:07 PM
I wonder if this is going to continue after Thursday IF they trade the 2017 Nets Pick.

I doubt they do but who knows.

If they trade it, and I don't think that they will, I can do something on late firsts and second rounders.

Great question...hadn't thought of it. TP

Lol yeah I honestly never thought of it until now.

It seems if it does get moved, it will be only for PG13, not Butler (as reports claim).
Title: Re: Tuesday 2/21: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on February 21, 2017, 08:48:38 PM
I wonder if this is going to continue after Thursday IF they trade the 2017 Nets Pick.

I doubt they do but who knows.

If they trade it, and I don't think that they will, I can do something on late firsts and second rounders.

Great question...hadn't thought of it. TP

Lol yeah I honestly never thought of it until now.

It seems if it does get moved, it will be only for PG13, not Butler (as reports claim).

The Nets season watch thread will be less relevant also. Actually almost irrelevant..
 Again don't think it's going to happen.

If we do trade for George, I hope we keep Brown and Smart.
Title: Re: Tuesday 2/21: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on February 22, 2017, 12:14:26 PM
UPDATE: Wednesday 1/22

6:30 SECN          Vandy          Luke Kornet (3)

7:00 ESPN          Syr/Duke      Lydon(20)/Tatum(0), Giles(1),Allen (3),Kennard(1),Bolden(20)

7:00 ACCN         Wake            John Collins (20)

7:00 ESPN2        Kansas        Josh Jackson (11), Mikhailiuk (10)

8:00 SECN         A&M              Robt Williams (44)

8:30 BTN           Maryland       Melo Trimble (2)

9:00 ESPN        UNC/Lou        Jackson (44), I. Hicks (4)/Donovan Mitchell (45)

9:00 ESPN2      Ore/Cal         Boucher(25), Bell(1), Dorsey (5), Brooks (24)/ RABB (1)

9:00 ESPNU     KSt/OkSt        Wesley Iwundu (25)/Jawun Evans

9:00 FS1         "Nova             Josh hart (3)

10:00 ESPN3    Nevada         Cam Oliver (0)

11:00 CBSSN    SDSt             Malik Pope   (21)   

                       
Title: Re: Tuesday 2/21: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: footey on February 22, 2017, 12:28:09 PM
UPDATE: Wednesday 1/22

6:30 SECN          Vandy          Luke Kornet (3)

7:00 ESPN          Syr/Duke      Lydon(20)/Tatum(0), Giles(1),Allen (3),Kennard(1),Bolden(20)

7:00 ACCN         Wake            John Collins (20)

7:00 ESPN2        Kansas        Josh Jackson (11), Mikhailiuk (10)

8:00 SECN         A&M              Robt Williams (44)

8:30 BTN           Maryland       Melo Trimble (2)

9:00 ESPN        UNC/Lou        Jackson (44), I. Hicks (4)/Donovan Mitchell (45)

9:00 ESPN2      Ore/Cal         Boucher(25), Bell(1), Dorsey (5), Brooks (24)/ RABB (1)

9:00 ESPNU     KSt/OkSt        Wesley Iwundu (25)/Jawun Evans

9:00 FS1         "Nova             Josh hart (3)

10:00 ESPN3    Nevada         Cam Oliver (0)

11:00 CBSSN    SDSt             Malik Pope   (21)   

                       

TP.  Will definitely watch Kansas and Duke games tonight!  Jackson and Tatum!  Bless DVR!!
Title: Re: Tuesday 2/21: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on February 22, 2017, 06:37:56 PM


TP.  Will definitely watch Kansas and Duke games tonight!  Jackson and Tatum!  Bless DVR!!

Thanks...back atcha....and I'm going to do exactly the same thing....plus flip during commercials to Wake to watch John Collins. He has been impressing me lately.

Jackson is in my top 3 now. If we got #1, I'd think about trading down to 2-3 to get him or maybe taking him at 1.

He checks every box emphatically except shooting...and I know that's a big EXCEPT.
Title: Re: Wednesday 2/22: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: knuckleballer on February 22, 2017, 08:48:11 PM
Great game between Duke and Syracuse.  Tie game with four minutes left.  Tatum having a huge game.  I really think he's in the top four discussion with Jackson, Ball, and Fultz. 
Title: Re: Wednesday 2/22: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: saltlover on February 22, 2017, 08:55:09 PM
Great game between Duke and Syracuse.  Tie game with four minutes left.  Tatum having a huge game.  I really think he's in the top four discussion with Jackson, Ball, and Fultz.

I do too.  He's really picked it up in the last month or so.  Very easy to see why he was so highly rated.

Dennis Smith Jr. still gets a lot of talk in the top 3-4 as well. 1-2 times a game (the 3 or so games I've seen of him) he makes a play that has me stand up off my couch in awe.  And then at least that many times he makes plays that cause me to really hope he's not a Celtic next year.  He's someone it's easy to see a team falling in love with -- he's just so athletic.  But he's also someone that I could just as easily see fall, because he can be so erratic too.
Title: Re: Wednesday 2/22: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on February 22, 2017, 08:59:40 PM
Great game between Duke and Syracuse.  Tie game with four minutes left.  Tatum having a huge game.  I really think he's in the top four discussion with Jackson, Ball, and Fultz.

Wow, what an ending...just Wow!
Title: Re: Wednesday 2/22: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: knuckleballer on February 22, 2017, 09:05:23 PM
Great game between Duke and Syracuse.  Tie game with four minutes left.  Tatum having a huge game.  I really think he's in the top four discussion with Jackson, Ball, and Fultz.

Wow, what an ending...just Wow!

Banking in a last second forced three pointer.  That's just crazy.

Tatum went for 19 points, 13 rebounds, and 6 assists.  He's really come alive recently.  His 3 point shooting is now up to around 40%.
Title: Re: Wednesday 2/22: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on February 22, 2017, 09:17:01 PM
Great game between Duke and Syracuse.  Tie game with four minutes left.  Tatum having a huge game.  I really think he's in the top four discussion with Jackson, Ball, and Fultz.

Wow, what an ending...just Wow!

Banking in a last second forced three pointer.  That's just crazy.

Tatum went for 19 points, 13 rebounds, and 6 assists.  He's really come alive recently.  His 3 point shooting is now up to around 40%.

I agree with you and salt.....Tatum would be a great consolation prize if we miss on Jackson and Fultz.
Title: Re: Thursday 2/23: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on February 23, 2017, 09:41:20 AM
UPDATE: (and hopefully not the last one for potential first rounders for this year)

THURSDAY, February 23rd (trade deadline day)

7:00 ESPN2     Michigan State     Miles Bridges (22)

7:00 ESPN       Memphis             Dedric Lawson (0) **************

9:00 ESPN2     UCLA                  Ball (2), Leaf (22)

10:00 PAC12   Arizona               Markkanen (10),Alkins (1), Simmons(2),Trier(35)


*********Dedric Lawson-6'8'', 225 with 7'2" wingspan 19.37 year old Soph     
Title: Re: Wednesday 2/22: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: footey on February 23, 2017, 09:49:40 AM
Great game between Duke and Syracuse.  Tie game with four minutes left.  Tatum having a huge game.  I really think he's in the top four discussion with Jackson, Ball, and Fultz.

Wow, what an ending...just Wow!

Banking in a last second forced three pointer.  That's just crazy.

Tatum went for 19 points, 13 rebounds, and 6 assists.  He's really come alive recently.  His 3 point shooting is now up to around 40%.

Jackson posted 15/11/4 despite turning his ankle early, and getting into foul trouble in 2nd half.  He posted those #s in 26 minutes. Tatum played entire 40.

I think Celtics will focus in on taking either Jackson or Tatum (unless Ball really intrigues Danny, hard to tell how he fits in. Fultz I doubt Danny will care for).  A case can be made for each. My personal favorite right now is Jackson. He just seems to have a basketball team brain, where he is never forcing anything, loves to involve his team-mates, and just glides across the floor old school, like Drexler and Dr. J.  So fundamentally sound. He actually had an off game last night, was a little disappointing defensively at times, which is unusual. I think his ankle had something to do with his unusual display of tentativeness.
Title: Re: Thursday 2/23: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on February 23, 2017, 10:01:26 AM
Thanks for the Jackson update.

I was going to DVR both the Duke and kansas games but got pre-occupied and was flipping back and forth. I didn't know about Jackson being hampered by the ankle. He still looked great.

He's my #1 choice right now. As you said, footey, his fluidity and then his explosion and the burn that he has to compete constantly are impressive.

His 3pt shooting is coming around. He is the type of athlete with that burn to improve, so his shot will get there with the amount of work that he is willing to put in.

Title: Re: Thursday 2/23: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: chilidawg on February 23, 2017, 03:04:50 PM
We now resume our regularly scheduled coverage of the draft.
Title: Re: Thursday 2/23: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: Casperian on February 23, 2017, 03:10:42 PM
Personally, I will be very disappointed if we end up with Tatum. Typical low-ceiling guy, in my opinion.
Title: Re: Thursday 2/23: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on February 23, 2017, 03:26:57 PM
We now resume our regularly scheduled coverage of the draft.

Tp, chil, glad to still be doing this...glad we didn't trade BK pick, but no small moves?

WTH?
Title: Re: Thursday 2/23: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: CelticGuardian on February 23, 2017, 03:28:57 PM
Personally, I will be very disappointed if we end up with Tatum. Typical low-ceiling guy, in my opinion.

Yeah, I don't like him either. A lot of people here do for some reason.. his HS hype gets mentioned a lot but if that's a determining factor then Lonzo Ball is the consensus #1 pick.
Title: Re: Thursday 2/23: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: footey on February 23, 2017, 03:36:55 PM
Will scout Ball tonight. Pretty cool we will get one of top 4.
Title: Re: Thursday 2/23: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: tazzmaniac on February 23, 2017, 03:41:51 PM
Personally, I will be very disappointed if we end up with Tatum. Typical low-ceiling guy, in my opinion.

Yeah, I don't like him either. A lot of people here do for some reason.. his HS hype gets mentioned a lot but if that's a determining factor then Lonzo Ball is the consensus #1 pick.
Jackson was the highest ranked out of high school with Giles 2nd. 

https://sites.google.com/site/rscihoops/home/2016-final
http://www.draftexpress.com/RSCI/2016/
Title: Re: Friday 2/24: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on February 24, 2017, 08:14:03 AM
UPDATE: Friday 2/24


Only 2 games tonight....Full slate tomorrow with Arizona vs UCLA the standout at 8:15


7:30 ESPN3     Valparaiso            Alec Peters (25)

10:00 FS1       California              Ivan Rabb (1)
Title: Re: Thursday 2/23: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: The One on February 24, 2017, 08:37:58 AM
Personally, I will be very disappointed if we end up with Tatum. Typical low-ceiling guy, in my opinion.

Could happen but I think it probably shakes out like this for this excellent front office...

1. Fultz
2. Ball
3. Jackson
4. Isaac

I would be surprised if Tatum snuck in there.
Title: Re: Thursday 2/23: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: footey on February 24, 2017, 08:52:26 AM
Personally, I will be very disappointed if we end up with Tatum. Typical low-ceiling guy, in my opinion.

Could happen but I think it probably shakes out like this for this excellent front office...

1. Fultz
2. Ball
3. Jackson
4. Isaac

I would be surprised if Tatum snuck in there.

1. Jackson
2. Fultz
3. Ball
4. Tatum

I like Ball better than Fultz, but tougher to fit into our current team, particularly Isaiah.

Jackson not only best fit for our team. He is the best player in the draft. I think that is Danny's target. If we can't get him, more likely to trade the pick.

Tatum more likely selected ahead of Isaac. Has an NBA body.
Title: Re: Thursday 2/23: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: Casperian on February 24, 2017, 09:00:45 AM

Tatum more likely selected ahead of Isaac. Has an NBA body.

Which is precisely why he's looking good in college, imo. He has a rather mature body and a polished game, but his overall athleticism is nothing to write home about. We see prospects like that every year, and most of the time they are good, but unspectacular NBA players.

I think his absolute best case scenario is a Danny Granger-type, which is nice, but nothing to get excited about, either. Top 5 is definitely too high for my taste.
Title: Re: Saturday 2/25: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on February 25, 2017, 11:33:27 AM

UPDATE    Saturday 2/25


12:00 ACCN     FSU/Clem          Isaac (1), Bacon (4)/Blossomgame (5)

12:00 ACCN     UNC                  Jackson (44), I. Hicks (4)

12:00 ESPN     NCSt                 DSJ (4), Yurtseven (14)

1:00 SECN      SouthCar            Sindarius Thornwell (0), PJ Dozier

2:00 CBS        FLA/KY               Robinson (1), Fox (0), Bam (3), Monk (5)

2:00 ESPNU    OKSt                  Jawun Evans (1)

3:00 FS1        Creighton/'Nova  Justin Patton (23)/Josh Hart (3)

4:00 ESPNU   Vandy                 Luke Kornet (3)

4:00 ESPN2   Purdue               Caleb Swanigan (50)

4:00 CBS      Duke                 Tatum(0), Giles(1), Allen(3), Kennard(5), Bolden(20)

4:00 PAC12   Oregon            Boucher(25), Bell(1), Brooks(24), Dorsey(5)

4:00 ESPN    Baylor/IOSt          Motley(5)/Monte Morris (11)

6:00 SECN    Georgia           Yante Maten (1)

6:00 ESPN    Kansas/Tex      Josh Jackson(11), Mikhailiuk(10)/Jarret Allen (31)

6:00 ESPN    MD/IO              Melo Trimble(2)/Jok (14)

6:00 ESPNU KSt                 Wesley Iwundu (25)

6:00 CBSSN Nevada           Cam Oliver (0)

8:00 ESPN2   A&M              Robt Wms (44)

8:00 BTN     Indiana           Thomas Bryant (31)

8:00 CBSSN SDSt             Malik Pope (21)

8:00 ESPN   UCLA/'Zona   Ball(2), Leaf(22)/Markkanen(10)Alkins (1), Simmons (2), Trier (35)







Title: Re: Saturday 2/25: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: tazzmaniac on February 25, 2017, 11:55:53 AM

UPDATE    Saturday 2/25


12:00 ACCN     FSU/Clem          Isaac (1), Bacon (4)/Blossomgame (5)

12:00 ACCN     UNC                  Jackson (44), I. Hicks (4)

12:00 ESPN     NCSt                 DSJ (4), Yurtseven (14)

1:00 SECN      SouthCar            Sindarius Thornwell (0), PJ Dozier

2:00 CBS        FLA/KY               Robinson (1), Fox (0), Bam (3), Monk (5)

2:00 ESPNU    OKSt                  Jawun Evans (1)

3:00 FS1        Creighton/'Nova  Justin Patton (23)/Josh Hart (3)

4:00 ESPNU   Vandy                 Luke Kornet (3)

4:00 ESPN2   Purdue               Caleb Swanigan (50)

4:00 CBS      Duke                 Tatum(0), Giles(1), Allen(3), Kennard(5), Bolden(20)

4:00 PAC12   Oregon            Boucher(25), Bell(1), Brooks(24), Dorsey(5)

4:00 ESPN    Baylor/IOSt          Motley(5)/Monte Morris (11)

6:00 SECN    Georgia           Yante Maten (1)

6:00 ESPN    Kansas/Tex      Josh Jackson(11), Mikhailiuk(10)/Jarret Allen (31)

6:00 ESPN    MD/IO              Melo Trimble(2)/Jok (14)

6:00 ESPNU KSt                 Wesley Iwundu (25)

6:00 CBSSN Nevada           Cam Oliver (0)

8:00 ESPN2   A&M              Robt Wms (44)

8:00 BTN     Indiana           Thomas Bryant (31)

8:00 CBSSN SDSt             Malik Pope (21)

8:00 ESPN   UCLA/'Zona   Ball(2), Leaf(22)/Markkanen(10)Alkins (1), Simmons (2), Trier (35)
TP for you.  Glad we still have our pick.  Would have been hard to watch Fultz, Jackson, Ball, etc. without it. 
Title: Re: Saturday 2/25: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: footey on February 25, 2017, 12:33:46 PM
TP 60's keeping this alive. Big day today to scout picks!!
Title: Re: Saturday 2/25: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on February 25, 2017, 02:50:22 PM
TP 60's keeping this alive. Big day today to scout picks!!

My pleasure...and back atcha. Glad we have a pick to look forward to and dream about. So much talent in this draft, including a bunch of internationals, that we're likely to get stash talent in the 2nd.

DVRs hummin' and channels flippin' today!
Title: Re: Saturday 2/25: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: Celts Fan 508 on February 25, 2017, 03:54:52 PM
Monk is going off this half, 24 points in the second half so far.  Total 27 points in 27 minutes.

Still 6 minutes to go.
Title: Re: Saturday 2/25: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on February 25, 2017, 05:11:25 PM
Monk is going off this half, 24 points in the second half so far.  Total 27 points in 27 minutes.

Still 6 minutes to go.

He is an explosive scorer.… And he can shoot the three.

Two problems: 1. He is only 6'2" and foa a SG in the pros, that's problematic and 2. He doesn't do much else.
Title: Re: Saturday 2/25: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: Celts Fan 508 on February 25, 2017, 07:06:14 PM
Monk is going off this half, 24 points in the second half so far.  Total 27 points in 27 minutes.

Still 6 minutes to go.

He is an explosive scorer.… And he can shoot the three.

Two problems: 1. He is only 6'2" and foa a SG in the pros, that's problematic and 2. He doesn't do much else.

Someone will draft him with the hope of him playing the point.  Who's the best scorer in the draft in your opinion between Fultz, Monk, and Tatum?
Title: Re: Saturday 2/25: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on February 25, 2017, 07:50:26 PM
Monk is going off this half, 24 points in the second half so far.  Total 27 points in 27 minutes.

Still 6 minutes to go.

He is an explosive scorer.… And he can shoot the three.

Two problems: 1. He is only 6'2" and foa a SG in the pros, that's problematic and 2. He doesn't do much else.

Someone will draft him with the hope of him playing the point.  Who's the best scorer in the draft in your opinion between Fultz, Monk, and Tatum?

Great question, TP.

I think that Monk is easily the best pure scorer.

I like Josh Jackson as the best player.
Title: Re: Saturday 2/25: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: knuckleballer on February 25, 2017, 08:57:21 PM
Ball is having a great game.  His court vision, awareness, and instincts are amazing.  He's so fun to watch.
Title: Re: Saturday 2/25: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on February 25, 2017, 09:29:26 PM
Ball is having a great game.  His court vision, awareness, and instincts are amazing.  He's so fun to watch.

I wish he would be a little more selfish. He is entertaining though.

Trier playing out of his mind.

He's going to jump into the first round unfortunately.

Was hoping we had a shot for him in second.

EDIT:And how big and strong is Alkins for a point guard? He's like a mini-'Reke.


Title: Re: Saturday 2/25: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: knuckleballer on February 25, 2017, 10:23:31 PM
Ball is having a great game.  His court vision, awareness, and instincts are amazing.  He's so fun to watch.

I wish he would be a little more selfish. He is entertaining though.

Trier playing out of his mind.

He's going to jump into the first round unfortunately.

Was hoping we had a shot for him in second.

EDIT:And how big and strong is Alkins for a point guard? He's like a mini-'Reke.

I wasn't familiar with Trier.  He had a great game.  Draftexpress has him at 51, so he could be available in the second round.
Title: Re: Saturday 2/25: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on February 25, 2017, 10:59:13 PM
Ball is having a great game.  His court vision, awareness, and instincts are amazing.  He's so fun to watch.

I wish he would be a little more selfish. He is entertaining though.

Trier playing out of his mind.

He's going to jump into the first round unfortunately.

Was hoping we had a shot for him in second.

EDIT:And how big and strong is Alkins for a point guard? He's like a mini-'Reke.

I wasn't familiar with Trier.  He had a great game.  Draftexpress has him at 51, so he could be available in the second round.

He missed the first 20 or so games of the season on a PED related suspension. In many early drafts in November and into December, he was in the late first, early second.

They were expecting big things from him this year, but the suspension stunted his draft projection in a big way. It has cost him a lot of $$$$.

A 6'5" SG who can take it to the rack and hit 3s coming out of a good program. He'll be a bargain for someone.
Title: Re: Sunday 2/26: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on February 26, 2017, 08:25:53 AM
UPDATE: Sunday 2/26


1:00 ESPN       Valparaiso      Alec Peters (25)

2:00 CBSSN     Syr/LOU         Tyler Lydon (20)/Donovan Mitchell (45)

4:00 CBS         Mich St            Miles Bridges (22)

5:00 CBSSN     Memphis         Dedric Lawson (0)

6:30 ESPNU     ND/GTech        VJ Beacham (3), Bonzie Colson (35)/Ben Lammers (44)

8:30 ESPNU     WASH             Markelle Fultz (20)     

Title: Re: Monday 2/27: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on February 27, 2017, 09:47:19 AM
UPDATE: Monday 2/27

Not a lot of action tonight guys: this is the last week of regular season games ending Sunday.

Potential draftees playing today:


7:00 ESPN       UNC          Justin Jackson (44), I Hicks (4)

7:00 ESPNU    Baylor        Motley (5)

9:00 ESPN      Kansas      Josh Jackson (11), Mikhailiuk (10)

Title: Re: Monday 2/27: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: chilidawg on February 27, 2017, 09:55:16 AM
Always worth watching when Jackson is playing.
Title: Re: Monday 2/27: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: footey on February 27, 2017, 09:58:48 AM
Really enjoy watching Kansas' games. I've caught about 5 so far.  Jackson continues to impress, even when he has an off game, like he did vs. Texas last Saturday, where he had a hard time finishing a lot of his drives.  He continues to gain confidence in his outside shooting.

Of all the high draft choices, I feel he will slip most seamlessly into our regular rotation right away, even more so than Jaylen Brown did.   Seems Celtics are trending towards stock-piling talented players who can defend multiple positions (Brown, Smart) and Jackson more than anyone fits that mold.  If we are fortunate to draft him, makes me wonder if we really want to break the bank to go after Hayward.
Title: Re: Monday 2/27: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on February 27, 2017, 11:09:20 AM
Really enjoy watching Kansas' games. I've caught about 5 so far.  Jackson continues to impress, even when he has an off game, like he did vs. Texas last Saturday, where he had a hard time finishing a lot of his drives.  He continues to gain confidence in his outside shooting.

Of all the high draft choices, I feel he will slip most seamlessly into our regular rotation right away, even more so than Jaylen Brown did.   Seems Celtics are trending towards stock-piling talented players who can defend multiple positions (Brown, Smart) and Jackson more than anyone fits that mold.  If we are fortunate to draft him, makes me wonder if we really want to break the bank to go after Hayward.

I am on board with drafting Jackson.

Smart/Jaylen/Jackson/Crowder as defenders at the 1-2-3-4????

Teams wont want to be playing us.
Title: Re: Tuesday 2/28: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on February 28, 2017, 09:08:28 AM
UPDATE: Tuesday 2/28

6:30 BTN     MD          Melo Trimble (2)

6:30 FS1     GTown     Peak (0), Pryor (23)

7:00 ESPNU  SC          Thornwell (0), Dozier (15)

7:00 SECN    A&M       Robt Wms (44)

7:00 ESPN2  IND/Pur   Bryant (31)/Swanigan (50)

7:00 ESPN    FSU/Duke      Isaac(1),Bacon(4)/Tatum(0),Giles(1),Allen(3), Kennard(5), Bolden (20)

8:00 CBSSN  Creighton     Justin Patton (23)

9:00 ESPN    KY/Vandy      Fox(0), Bam(3), Monk(50)/Kornet (3)

9:00 ESPNU  GTech           Ben Lammers (44)

9:00 ESPN2 OKSt/IOSt     Jawun Evans (1)/Monte Morris (11)
Title: Re: Tuesday 2/28: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: The One on February 28, 2017, 07:23:50 PM
Thanks for this!

Isaac looking good so far.
Title: Re: Tuesday 2/28: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: clevelandceltic on February 28, 2017, 10:44:15 PM
I think Issac must have gone to bench and watch the President's address after the 1st 8 min of the game. I dont see any reason why a team would take him over Tatum or Jackson at this point unless they see him being a dominate defensive player.
Title: Re: Tuesday 2/28: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on February 28, 2017, 11:07:16 PM
I think Issac must have gone to bench and watch the President's address after the 1st 8 min of the game. I dont see any reason why a team would take him over Tatum or Jackson at this point unless they see him being a dominate defensive player.

I agree.

Josh Jackson, especially, is such a dominant physical presence and is smoothly relentless.


EDIT: KY came back from 19 down to beat Vandy....impressive.


Title: Re: Wednesday 3/1: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on March 01, 2017, 10:48:05 AM
UPDATE: Wednesday 3/1

6:30 SECN     Georgia          Yante Maten (1)

7:00 ESPN2    FLA               Devin Robinson (1)

7:00 BTN       Michigan         Moritz Wagner (13)*********

8:00 ACCN    Clem/NCSt     Blossomgame(5)/ DSJ (4), Yurtseven (14)

8:00 ACCN    ND                VJ Beacham(3), Bonzie Colson(35)

9:00 ESPN2   Texas            Jarrett Allen (31)

9:00 BTN      MichSt           Miles Bridges (22)

9:00 ACCN   Lou/Wake       Donovan Mitchell(45)/John Collins (20)

9:00 ESPNU  KSt               Wesley Iwundu (25)

10:00 CBSSN  SDSt          Malik Pope (21)

11:00 FS1     Wash/UCLA  Fultz (20)/Ball(2), Leaf (22)

   
Title: Re: Wednesday 3/1: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: footey on March 01, 2017, 10:52:26 AM
Thanks, CS Fan.  Will watch the game tonight between Fultz and Ball with great interest.  While I remain in Jackson's court, could see scenario play out where we could draft one of these two. If we commit to IT long term, I could see Fultz being drafted, since he can be that second go to guy who can create his own offense, which we so desperately need.  I don't think we take Ball unless we want to rebuild the team and trade IT. 

Title: Re: Wednesday 3/1: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on March 01, 2017, 11:22:45 AM
Good article on Ball vs Fultz:

http://www.dailynews.com/sports/20170228/uclas-lonzo-ball-washingtons-markelle-fultz-different-but-equally-good

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hey’re dead even, according to one NBA scout.

UCLA’s Lonzo Ball and Washington’s Markelle Fultz have entirely different strengths, but that only makes deciphering which is the better NBA prospect a more difficult task.

The two freshman point guards will share a court for the second time this season when Washington (9-19, 2-14 Pac-12) visits No. 3 UCLA (26-3, 13-3) Wednesday night.

UCLA clearly demonstrated that Ball is surrounded by more talent than his Washington counterpart when the Bruins left Seattle Feb. 4 with a 107-66 victory. Fultz’s 25 accounted for 38 percent of his team’s points. Ball’s 22 were just 21 percent of UCLA’s total.

“Lonzo is not the scorer that Fultz is, but I’m convinced that if I said ‘Go be a scorer,’ Zo could do that,” UCLA coach Steve Alford said. “Lonzo has just made an impression on our program in every phase of the game, how you pass, how you dribble, the shots we take, how we defend...There’s a great culture around Lonzo and a lot of that has to do with who he is as a person.”

According a bevy of experts, Fultz and Ball will be the top two picks in the 2017 NBA draft, in that order. They are projected to go first and second by ESPN’s Chad Ford, DraftExpress.net and NBADraft.net, among others.

Fultz is such a dynamic scorer, he would be a shooting guard at the next level if he were taller than 6-foot-4, according to an NBA scout. In addition, his impact across the board is so historically great that Fultz is the only college basketball player in the last 25 years to average 20 points, five rebounds and five assists. The fifth-leading scorer in the country is on pace for the highest Pac-12 scoring average in 20 years.

Ball can counter that with his status as the only player in the country averaging at least 10 points, seven assists and four rebounds — his actual averages are 14.8 points, a nation-leading 7.6 assists and 6.1 rebounds.

At 6-6, Ball has the size to play either guard position, but is the only true point guard among the best crop of prospects at the position in recent memory. He not only has exceptional vision, but a unique compliment that augments his most identifiable strength.

“He’s got vision and balls,” an NBA scout said. “When he gets an outlet and turns and sees (the) floor, he has all nine people in view. Now his balls come into play because he’s not afraid to throw that pass. Ball isn’t the athlete that Fultz is, but his length and his vision offset a little of what he lacks athletically. And he’s not stiff. He’s not Bryce Alford.”
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Fultz needs to improve cerebrally to run a team at the next level, according to the scout, while the largest concern surrounding Ball is his unconventional shooting form.

Despite being right-handed, Ball shoots from the left side of his head. He requires more space between him and the defender because his release point is lower with his shooting arm angled across his face.

“He’ll be fine the first time through, but there’s a bunch of guys on NBA coaching staffs who will figure out how to take that shot away, guys with more time than Pac-12 coaches,” the NBA scout said. “It’s going to be on him to prove us wrong, to prove that he can make it. But He can’t physically release it as high as someone who shoots it on the right side of his head. Some of it is offset by his height, but when a 6-6, 6-7 guy is guarding him it’s going to be a problem, I think.”

I especially like the part saying Ball has "vision and balls."
Title: Re: Wednesday 3/1: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: clevelandceltic on March 01, 2017, 11:41:14 AM
Good article on Ball vs Fultz:

http://www.dailynews.com/sports/20170228/uclas-lonzo-ball-washingtons-markelle-fultz-different-but-equally-good

Quote
hey’re dead even, according to one NBA scout.

UCLA’s Lonzo Ball and Washington’s Markelle Fultz have entirely different strengths, but that only makes deciphering which is the better NBA prospect a more difficult task.

The two freshman point guards will share a court for the second time this season when Washington (9-19, 2-14 Pac-12) visits No. 3 UCLA (26-3, 13-3) Wednesday night.

UCLA clearly demonstrated that Ball is surrounded by more talent than his Washington counterpart when the Bruins left Seattle Feb. 4 with a 107-66 victory. Fultz’s 25 accounted for 38 percent of his team’s points. Ball’s 22 were just 21 percent of UCLA’s total.

“Lonzo is not the scorer that Fultz is, but I’m convinced that if I said ‘Go be a scorer,’ Zo could do that,” UCLA coach Steve Alford said. “Lonzo has just made an impression on our program in every phase of the game, how you pass, how you dribble, the shots we take, how we defend...There’s a great culture around Lonzo and a lot of that has to do with who he is as a person.”

According a bevy of experts, Fultz and Ball will be the top two picks in the 2017 NBA draft, in that order. They are projected to go first and second by ESPN’s Chad Ford, DraftExpress.net and NBADraft.net, among others.

Fultz is such a dynamic scorer, he would be a shooting guard at the next level if he were taller than 6-foot-4, according to an NBA scout. In addition, his impact across the board is so historically great that Fultz is the only college basketball player in the last 25 years to average 20 points, five rebounds and five assists. The fifth-leading scorer in the country is on pace for the highest Pac-12 scoring average in 20 years.

Ball can counter that with his status as the only player in the country averaging at least 10 points, seven assists and four rebounds — his actual averages are 14.8 points, a nation-leading 7.6 assists and 6.1 rebounds.

At 6-6, Ball has the size to play either guard position, but is the only true point guard among the best crop of prospects at the position in recent memory. He not only has exceptional vision, but a unique compliment that augments his most identifiable strength.

“He’s got vision and balls,” an NBA scout said. “When he gets an outlet and turns and sees (the) floor, he has all nine people in view. Now his balls come into play because he’s not afraid to throw that pass. Ball isn’t the athlete that Fultz is, but his length and his vision offset a little of what he lacks athletically. And he’s not stiff. He’s not Bryce Alford.”
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Fultz needs to improve cerebrally to run a team at the next level, according to the scout, while the largest concern surrounding Ball is his unconventional shooting form.

Despite being right-handed, Ball shoots from the left side of his head. He requires more space between him and the defender because his release point is lower with his shooting arm angled across his face.

“He’ll be fine the first time through, but there’s a bunch of guys on NBA coaching staffs who will figure out how to take that shot away, guys with more time than Pac-12 coaches,” the NBA scout said. “It’s going to be on him to prove us wrong, to prove that he can make it. But He can’t physically release it as high as someone who shoots it on the right side of his head. Some of it is offset by his height, but when a 6-6, 6-7 guy is guarding him it’s going to be a problem, I think.”

I especially like the part saying Ball has "vision and balls."

The last two sentences are of a great concern to me. In addition to this he doesnt have a great 1st step and isnt that strong so I wonder how much his game will really change from the dynamics that we see now. I can see him playing off the ball alot to allow for him to be effective in the HC just like they do now.

Im not a huge Ball fan. I have him 4th on my board due to the concerns I have about him.
Title: Re: Thursday 3/2: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on March 02, 2017, 08:51:25 AM
UPDATE: Thursday 3/2

9:00 ESPN      IO/Wisc     Peter Jok (14)/Nigel Hayes (10), Ethan Hopp (22)

9:00 ESPNU    Memphis    Dedric Lawson (1)

11:00 ESPNU  Cal/Utah    Ivan Rabb (1)/ Kyle Kuzma (35)
Title: Re: Friday 3/3: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on March 03, 2017, 10:19:21 AM
UPDATE; Friday 3/3

One game tonight.

HUGE day tomorrow. 25 games on with potential draftees.

7:00 ESPN2 IOSt/WVa     Monte Morris (11), Deonte Burton (30)
Title: Re: Thursday 3/2: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: chilidawg on March 03, 2017, 10:40:03 AM
UPDATE: Thursday 3/2

9:00 ESPN      IO/Wisc     Peter Jok (14)/Nigel Hayes (10), Ethan Hopp (22)

9:00 ESPNU    Memphis    Dedric Lawson (1)

11:00 ESPNU  Cal/Utah    Ivan Rabb (1)/ Kyle Kuzma (35)

I watched most of the Wisc./Iowa game and didn't come away impressed by any of those 3.  Jok maybe has a future as a 3 and D guy, athletic and shoots 92% on FTs,  but he sure didn't look good last night.
Title: Re: Thursday 3/2: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: saltlover on March 03, 2017, 11:49:45 AM
UPDATE: Thursday 3/2

9:00 ESPN      IO/Wisc     Peter Jok (14)/Nigel Hayes (10), Ethan Hopp (22)

9:00 ESPNU    Memphis    Dedric Lawson (1)

11:00 ESPNU  Cal/Utah    Ivan Rabb (1)/ Kyle Kuzma (35)

I watched most of the Wisc./Iowa game and didn't come away impressed by any of those 3.  Jok maybe has a future as a 3 and D guy, athletic and shoots 92% on FTs,  but he sure didn't look good last night.

Happ (not Hopp) is an end-of-the-second big to me.  He's more likely to have a solid career in Europe than the US, in my opinion, but he could carve out a reserve career in the NBA.  Good passer, good post game, good footwork for positioning on rebounds.  But he's not center-sized, and he's probably not quick enough to guard the modern NBA stretch four.  He'd probably need to show his fundamentals are good enough to overcome his lack of size, and let him play as a backup 5 in the NBA.  I don't think he can manage the four.

I've never like Peter Jok's game.  Don't know why.  He's also second-round material, as is Nigel Hayes, who's surprisingly shown an inability to handle a larger load the last two seasons.  I thought he'd be a real good NBA player a couple of years ago -- now, he' just another guy to take a flyer on.

Of the three, I think Hayes is the most likely to get drafted.  I don't really think any will be in the NBA five years from now.
Title: Re: Saturday 3/4: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on March 04, 2017, 11:53:59 AM
UPDATE: Saturday 3/4

12pm  CBS     KY/A&M     Fox(0), Bam (3), Monk (5)/Robt Wms (44)

1:00   ESPN    Ind            Bryant (31)

1:00 ESPNews  KSt         Iwundu (25)

2:00 ESPN2    GA           Yante Maten (1)

2:00 ESPN     FLA/Vandy   Robinson (1)/Kornet (3)

2:00 BTN       MSU/Md     Bridges (22)/Trimble (2)

2:00 CBS      ND/LOU      Beacham(3), Bonzie(35)/Mitchell (45)

2:00 PAC12   CAL           Rabb (1)

4:00 ESPN    BAY/Tex      Motley (5)/Allen (31)

4:00 ACCN   GT/Syr       Lammers (44)/Lydon (20)

4:00 ACCN   CLEM         Blossomgame (5)

4:00 PAC12  Utah          Kuzma (35)

4:00 CBS     AZ             Markkanen(10), Alkins (1), Simmons (2), Trier (35)

4:00 ESPN2  Memphis    Dedric Lawson (1)

4:30 ACCN   Wake         John Collins (20)

6:00 ESPN2  Oregon      Boucher (25), Bell (1), Brooks (24), Dorsey (5)

6:00 ESPN   Kansas/OKSt  JJackson (11), Mikhailiuk (10),Mason (0)/Evans (1)

6:30 PAC12  WASH       Fultz (20)??????????????unlikely

8:00 ESPN3  Nev          Cam Oliver (0)

8:15 ESPN   Duke/UNC  Tatum (0), Giles (1), Allen (3), Kennard (5), Bolden (20)/Justin Jackson (44), Isaiah Hicks (4)........Tobacco Road, Baby!!!!

8:30 SECN   SC            Thornwell(0), Dozier (15)

10PM CBSSN  SDSt       Pope (21)

10:30 ESPN   UCLA       Ball (2), Leaf (22)         

Title: Re: Saturday 3/4: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: chilidawg on March 04, 2017, 12:16:13 PM
Quite a lineup.  I've got the flu, so I might be doing some prospect watch bingeing.
Title: Re: Saturday 3/4: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: libermaniac on March 04, 2017, 12:22:26 PM
What are the numbers in parentheses?
Title: Re: Saturday 3/4: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on March 04, 2017, 12:26:04 PM
What are the numbers in parentheses?

Jersey numbers.....announcers aren't always on top of things
Title: Re: Saturday 3/4: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on March 04, 2017, 09:13:02 PM
Now Grayson Allen has added elbows to the face/head to his tripping, dirty tricks.

Boy this Duke team is tough to root for. Like Kennard, but UNC is giving Duke all they can handle.
Title: Re: Saturday 3/4: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: KG Living Legend on March 04, 2017, 09:34:07 PM
Now Grayson Allen has added elbows to the face/head to his tripping, dirty tricks.

Boy this Duke team is tough to root for. Like Kennard, but UNC is giving Duke all they can handle.




 Did you see last game when one of Allen's tripping victim's got revenge and Tripped Allen back? Classic!
Title: Re: Saturday 3/4: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on March 04, 2017, 09:44:35 PM
Now Grayson Allen has added elbows to the face/head to his tripping, dirty tricks.

Boy this Duke team is tough to root for. Like Kennard, but UNC is giving Duke all they can handle.




 Did you see last game when one of Allen's tripping victim's got revenge and Tripped Allen back? Classic!

TP....makes me feel better.… What goes around should come around!
Title: Re: Sunday 3/5: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on March 05, 2017, 09:51:53 AM
UPDATE:   Sunday 3/5

only a few games today.


1:00 BTN     Iowa::::::::::::::::::::::::Peter Jok (14)

4:30 CBS     Purdue:::::::::::::::::::::Caleb Swanigan (50)

8:00 BTN    Michigan::::::::::::::::::::Moritz Wagner (13)

For most teams, regular season ends today (or yesterday).

This week Conference Championship Tournaments start (tomorrow, I think.)


Then a week from today:Selection Sunday.

Then this:

Round                    Site    Date(s)
Selection Sunday    N/A    March 12
First Four       Dayton    March 14-15
First/Second    Buffalo    March 16&18
First/Second    Milw    March 16&18
First/Second    Orlando    March 16&18
First/Second    S L City    March 16&18
First/Second    Grville    March 17&19
First/Second    Ind    March 17&19
First/Second    Tulsa    March 17&19
First/Second    Sac    March 17&19
Midwest Regional    K C    March 23&25
West Regional    San Jose    March 23&25
South Regional    Memphis    March 24&26
East Regional    New York    March 24&26
Final Four      Phoenix    April 1&3
Title: Re: Sunday 3/5: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: chilidawg on March 05, 2017, 11:00:54 AM
 A few observations from watching yesterday's games:

Jarrett Allen continues to impress, to me he ought to be in the top 10 discussion.  Long, athletic, good touch around the basket and at least a mid range face up game.  He's a project for sure, but lots of upside.  Reminds me of WCS, with more offensive polish.

Motley from Baylor is solid, but doesn't have Allen's upside.  Certainly looks the part of a rotation player in the NBA, ought to be a mid to late first rounder.

Jackson looked awesome again.  The way he flies around the court (with the greatest of ease) combined with his length just really makes him stand out as an athlete, and he has excellent court vision and a sense of the game.  The shot is at least average.  To me, if you think the shot will improve, he's the number one pick.

Frank Mason really ought to be in the conversation as an early 2nd/late first pick.  What more does the guy have to do?

Tatum had an up and down game against Carolina.  Created a number of good looks for himself, but failed to convert on a number of them.  Shot well from 3.  Not nearly the fluid athlete that Jackson is, but he can elevate.

Kennard continues to impress.  He reminds me of a poor man's Harden, similar size, got that same herky jerky crafty lefty thing going on.

All of this submitted with the caveat that I'm frequently wrong.
Title: Re: Sunday 3/5: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on March 05, 2017, 11:47:56 AM
A few observations from watching yesterday's games:

Jarrett Allen continues to impress, to me he ought to be in the top 10 discussion.  Long, athletic, good touch around the basket and at least a mid range face up game.  He's a project for sure, but lots of upside.  Reminds me of WCS, with more offensive polish.

Motley from Baylor is solid, but doesn't have Allen's upside.  Certainly looks the part of a rotation player in the NBA, ought to be a mid to late first rounder.

Jackson looked awesome again.  The way he flies around the court (with the greatest of ease) combined with his length just really makes him stand out as an athlete, and he has excellent court vision and a sense of the game.  The shot is at least average.  To me, if you think the shot will improve, he's the number one pick.

Frank Mason really ought to be in the conversation as an early 2nd/late first pick.  What more does the guy have to do?

Tatum had an up and down game against Carolina.  Created a number of good looks for himself, but failed to convert on a number of them.  Shot well from 3.  Not nearly the fluid athlete that Jackson is, but he can elevate.

Kennard continues to impress.  He reminds me of a poor man's Harden, similar size, got that same herky jerky crafty lefty thing going on.

All of this submitted with the caveat that I'm frequently wrong.

TP, dawg....good summary/analysis. Kennard has consistently been the best player on the floor for Duke all season. Mason has carried Kansas in scoring in many games too.

The ND/Lou game had good performances by Donovan Mitchell (he's going to rise) and Beacham (17/8 with 2 blks) and Bonzie Colson. Colson is a local (New Bedford) guy that I started including because of his flashes. He's undersized for a PF, BUT draws fouls, can shoot 3s and craves out space real well. He had 20/5 with 1 steal yesterday.
Title: Re: Sunday 3/5: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: footey on March 05, 2017, 11:56:31 AM
Isaac box scores seem to have declined last couple of weeks. Anyone who follows him know what the story is?
Title: Re: Saturday 3/4: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: KG Living Legend on March 05, 2017, 12:22:23 PM
Now Grayson Allen has added elbows to the face/head to his tripping, dirty tricks.

Boy this Duke team is tough to root for. Like Kennard, but UNC is giving Duke all they can handle.




 Did you see last game when one of Allen's tripping victim's got revenge and Tripped Allen back? Classic!

TP....makes me feel better.… What goes around should come around!




 Right back at you C's fan.
Title: Re: Sunday 3/5: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: chilidawg on March 05, 2017, 01:35:29 PM
A few observations from watching yesterday's games:

Jarrett Allen continues to impress, to me he ought to be in the top 10 discussion.  Long, athletic, good touch around the basket and at least a mid range face up game.  He's a project for sure, but lots of upside.  Reminds me of WCS, with more offensive polish.

Motley from Baylor is solid, but doesn't have Allen's upside.  Certainly looks the part of a rotation player in the NBA, ought to be a mid to late first rounder.

Jackson looked awesome again.  The way he flies around the court (with the greatest of ease) combined with his length just really makes him stand out as an athlete, and he has excellent court vision and a sense of the game.  The shot is at least average.  To me, if you think the shot will improve, he's the number one pick.

Frank Mason really ought to be in the conversation as an early 2nd/late first pick.  What more does the guy have to do?

Tatum had an up and down game against Carolina.  Created a number of good looks for himself, but failed to convert on a number of them.  Shot well from 3.  Not nearly the fluid athlete that Jackson is, but he can elevate.

Kennard continues to impress.  He reminds me of a poor man's Harden, similar size, got that same herky jerky crafty lefty thing going on.

All of this submitted with the caveat that I'm frequently wrong.

TP, dawg....good summary/analysis. Kennard has consistently been the best player on the floor for Duke all season. Mason has carried Kansas in scoring in many games too.

The ND/Lou game had good performance by Donovan Mitchell (he's going to rise) and Beacham (17/8 with 2 blks) and Bonzie Colson. Colson is a local (New Bedford) guy that I started including because of his flashes. He's undersized for a PF, BUT draws fouls, can shoot 3s and craves out space real well. He had 20/5 with 1 steal yesterday.

Thanks.  Colson is an interesting one, certainly isn't going to wow you with his athleticism or size, but manages impact the game in many ways.  Diaw is a good comparison I think.  A guy who has been both really good and really bad over the years, depending on what system he's in. 

Beachem I like as a 2nd round 3 and D guy, he certainly ticks all the boxes for me.  Mitchell impresses me less, seems a little undersized for the 2, and more of a volume scorer than an efficient guy.   Looks like he doesn't have a lot of length either.
Title: Re: Sunday 3/5: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: KG Living Legend on March 05, 2017, 01:47:06 PM
Isaac box scores seem to have declined last couple of weeks. Anyone who follows him know what the story is?



 He's just not that good. At least not yet.

 I'm my mind it's.

 Fultz
 Ball
 Jackson
 Tatum

 Then everyone else.
Title: Re: Sunday 3/5: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: Bostoncelticsforlife7 on March 05, 2017, 04:28:39 PM
Isaac box scores seem to have declined last couple of weeks. Anyone who follows him know what the story is?



 He's just not that good. At least not yet.

 I'm my mind it's.

 Fultz
 Ball
 Jackson
 Tatum

 Then everyone else.
He has problems similar to Ingram, he isn't playing as aggressive as he should be
Title: Re: Sunday 3/5: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: chilidawg on March 05, 2017, 05:13:29 PM
Isaac box scores seem to have declined last couple of weeks. Anyone who follows him know what the story is?




 He's just not that good. At least not yet.

 I'm my mind it's.

 Fultz
 Ball
 Jackson
 Tatum

 Then everyone else.
He has problems similar to Ingram, he isn't playing as aggressive as he should be


Ingram didn't have that problem at Duke.
Title: Re: Monday 3/6: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on March 06, 2017, 09:21:00 AM
UPDATE: Monday 3/6



9:00 ESPN     Gonzaga        Zach Collins (32), Nigel Wms-Goss (5)



Tomorrow, Tuesday, the ACC Tourney Starts at noon at the Barclays Center.

Wednesday, the other big conference tourneys start!!!
Title: Re: Sunday 3/5: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: green_bballers13 on March 06, 2017, 09:33:05 AM
Isaac box scores seem to have declined last couple of weeks. Anyone who follows him know what the story is?


Yeah- I'm not sure that I'm interested in a poor man's Ingram.



 He's just not that good. At least not yet.

 I'm my mind it's.

 Fultz
 Ball
 Jackson
 Tatum

 Then everyone else.
He has problems similar to Ingram, he isn't playing as aggressive as he should be


Ingram didn't have that problem at Duke.

Yeah, I'm not interested in a poor mans Ingram.
Title: Re: Tuesday 3/7: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on March 07, 2017, 10:06:06 AM
UPDATE:  Tuesday 3/7

These games are at the ACC Tourney at The Barclays Center in BK.

Today may be the last time to see DSJ and some of these other prospects play.


12:00   ESPN2   NCSt/Clem      DSJ (4),Yurtseven(14)/Blossomgame (5)

2:00     ESPN2   Wake              John Collins (20)

7:00     ESPNU   GTECH            Ben Lammers (44)
Title: Re: Tuesday 3/7: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on March 07, 2017, 06:13:02 PM
Danny in Brooklyn watching ACC Tourney.

DSJ looked horrible. Bad stat line too in 35+ minutes: 7/3/8. I've watched him play in 5-6 games this year, and every time I've watched him?????...I really don't get the hype.

Blossomgame had 22 after a slow start and looked decent. (Old, I know)

John Collins looks like a man out there and put up some pretty good numbers: 19/11/1/1/1.

Wonder if Danny staying to see GT and Lammers?

Anybody going to watch?
Title: Re: Tuesday 3/7: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: chilidawg on March 07, 2017, 10:41:24 PM
I don't know if he's NBA material, but if you like old school big guys Karnowski is a pleasure to watch.
Title: Re: Tuesday 3/7: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on March 07, 2017, 11:22:04 PM
I don't know if he's NBA material, but if you like old school big guys Karnowski is a pleasure to watch.

I agree. He is fun to watch.

He is one man-mountain big, scary dude. 15/10/2/2/4 yesterday.

Didn't move as bad as a 300 pounder normally would.
Title: Re: Tuesday 3/7: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: colincb on March 08, 2017, 12:36:24 AM
 Jonathan Givony‏Verified account @DraftExpress 11h11 hours ago

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Dennis Smith having an absolute dud of a potential final college game. 2 points (1-7 FG), 4 turnovers. Getting lit up by Shelton Mitchell.


Ouch.
Title: Re: Tuesday 3/7: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: chilidawg on March 08, 2017, 08:19:57 AM
I don't know if he's NBA material, but if you like old school big guys Karnowski is a pleasure to watch.

I agree. He is fun to watch.

He is one man-mountain big, scary dude. 15/10/2/2/4 yesterday.

Didn't move as bad as a 300 pounder normally would.

Yeah, he's not fast, but he does get up and down the court, had one nice finish on the break, and doesn't appear that he's really winded.  Showed a nice touch out to the free throw line and he's a good passer.  He'd be worth a 2nd round pick, D League contract I think.
Title: Re: Sunday 3/5: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: Csfan1984 on March 08, 2017, 08:28:41 AM
Isaac box scores seem to have declined last couple of weeks. Anyone who follows him know what the story is?


Yeah- I'm not sure that I'm interested in a poor man's Ingram.



 He's just not that good. At least not yet.

 I'm my mind it's.

 Fultz
 Ball
 Jackson
 Tatum

 Then everyone else.
He has problems similar to Ingram, he isn't playing as aggressive as he should be


Ingram didn't have that problem at Duke.

Yeah, I'm not interested in a poor mans Ingram.
I'm very much interested in a poor man's Giannis. Isaac was /been banged up and facing tough defenses. In the beginning of the year he wasn't consider a guy to target. After a few games that turned, so that along with an injury slowed him down. He is still a top 10 pick.
Title: Re: Wednesday 3/8: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on March 08, 2017, 09:25:37 AM
UPDATE:  Wednesday 3/8

Players to watch:


12:00 ESPN     Syracuse          Tyler Lydon (20)

2:00 ESPN       Clem/DUKE       Blossomgame(5)/Tatum (0), Giles (1), Allen (3), Kennard (5), Bolden (20)

5:30 PAC12     California          Rabb (1)

7:00 FS1        Georgetown      Peak (0), Pryor (23), Govan (15)

7:00 ESPN2    Wake Forest      John Collins (20)

9:00 ESPNU    Texas               Jarrett Allen (31), Andrew Jones (1)

11:00 PAC12   Washington     Fultz.....looks like he's played his last game http://www.kitsapsun.com/story/sports/college/2017/03/08/fultz-wont-play-uw-pac-12-opener/98888496/
 
Title: Re: Wednesday 3/8: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: knuckleballer on March 08, 2017, 03:29:22 PM
Tatum looks darn good in the first half of this game.  I'm thrilled that he's basically the worst case scenario with Fultz, Ball, and Jackson ahead of him.  Our future is bright.
Title: Re: Wednesday 3/8: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: saltlover on March 08, 2017, 04:01:14 PM
Tatum looks darn good in the first half of this game.  I'm thrilled that he's basically the worst case scenario with Fultz, Ball, and Jackson ahead of him.  Our future is bright.

He looks even better in the second half.  And yeah, I really like that Tatum is our pick's floor.
Title: Re: Wednesday 3/8: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: clevelandceltic on March 08, 2017, 05:00:08 PM
Tatum looks darn good in the first half of this game.  I'm thrilled that he's basically the worst case scenario with Fultz, Ball, and Jackson ahead of him.  Our future is bright.

He looks even better in the second half.  And yeah, I really like that Tatum is our pick's floor.

Im fine with them taking Tatum. I think he would be a great fit for a team looking for someone who can create a shot. Someone that can switch on defense and in need of size on the wing.
Title: Re: Wednesday 3/8: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on March 08, 2017, 10:27:57 PM
Tatum looks darn good in the first half of this game.  I'm thrilled that he's basically the worst case scenario with Fultz, Ball, and Jackson ahead of him.  Our future is bright.

He looks even better in the second half.  And yeah, I really like that Tatum is our pick's floor.

This is exciting. One of Fultz, Ball, Jackson, Tatum.....wow.

20 games to watch tomorrow.

Wish we had another later first. Still, so much talent including internationals, that Danny's second round drafting prowess could get us some talent there too.
Title: Re: Wednesday 3/8: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: chilidawg on March 09, 2017, 12:43:58 AM
Tatum looks darn good in the first half of this game.  I'm thrilled that he's basically the worst case scenario with Fultz, Ball, and Jackson ahead of him.  Our future is bright.

He looks even better in the second half.  And yeah, I really like that Tatum is our pick's floor.

This is exciting. One of Fultz, Ball, Jackson, Tatum.....wow.

20 games to watch tomorrow.

Wish we had another later first. Still, so much talent including internationals, that Danny's second round drafting prowess could get us some talent there too.

Lots of intriguing big men mocked in the middle of the first: Allen, Patton, Hartenstein, Williams, Rabb.
Title: Re: Wednesday 3/8: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on March 09, 2017, 01:07:17 AM
Tatum looks darn good in the first half of this game.  I'm thrilled that he's basically the worst case scenario with Fultz, Ball, and Jackson ahead of him.  Our future is bright.

He looks even better in the second half.  And yeah, I really like that Tatum is our pick's floor.

This is exciting. One of Fultz, Ball, Jackson, Tatum.....wow.

20 games to watch tomorrow.

Wish we had another later first. Still, so much talent including internationals, that Danny's second round drafting prowess could get us some talent there too.

Lots of intriguing big men mocked in the middle of the first: Allen, Patton, Hartenstein, Williams, Rabb.

Agree,.....plus,, Giles, Swanigan, Leaf, Bam and Collins.

LOT of big talent there.
Title: Re: Thursday 3/9: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on March 09, 2017, 09:49:25 AM
UPDATE: Thursday 3/9

12:00 BTN     Michigan         Moritz Wagner (13)

12:00 ESPN   UNC               Jackson(44), IHicks (4), Bradley (5)

12:00 FS1     'Nova             Josh Hart (3)

12:30 ESPN2 OKSt/IOSt      Jawun Evans(1)/Monte Morris (11)

1:00 SECN    Georgia           Yante Maten (1)

2:00 ESPN    Louis/Duke     Mitchell(45)/Tatum(0), Giles (1), Allen (3), Kennard (5), Frank Jackson (15), Bolden (20)

2:25 BTN     Mich St            Miles Bridges (22)

2:30 ESPN2  Kansas           Mason (0), Josh Jackson (11) OUT SUSPENDED, Mikhailiuk (10)

3:00 PAC12  Oregon           Bell(1), Dorsey (5), Brooks (24), Boucher (25)

3:00 CBSSN  Nevada          Cam Oliver (0)

5:30 PAC12  Cal/Utah         Rabb (1)/Kuzma (35)

6:30 ESPN2  Ind/IO            Bryant (31)/Jok (14)

7:00 ESPNU  Texas             Jarrett Allen (31)/Andrew Jones (1)

7:00 SECN   A&M/Vandy     Robt Wms (44)/Luke Kornet (3)

7:00 ESPN   Fla St              Isaac (1), Bacon (4)

9:00 ESPNU  KSt/Bay         Wesley Iwundu (25)/ Motley (5)

9:00 ESPN    ND                 VJ Beacham (3), Bonzie Colson (35)

9:00 PAC12   Arizona          Markkanen(10), Alkins (1), Simmons (2), Trier (35)

9:30 FS1     Creighton        Justin Patton (23)

11:30 ESPN    UCLA           Ball(2), Leaf (22), Ike Anigbogu (13)

11:30 CBSSN   SDSt         Malik Pope (21)



   
Title: Re: Thursday 3/9: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: knuckleballer on March 09, 2017, 05:16:06 PM
Tatum led his team with 25 points on 9-15 shooting in a tough win.  Josh Jackson was suspended and his team lost.  Who do you want?  I think it's a tough call, but I want Tatum.  He reminds me so much of Pierce.
Title: Re: Thursday 3/9: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on March 09, 2017, 09:56:09 PM
Tatum led his team with 25 points on 9-15 shooting in a tough win.  Josh Jackson was suspended and his team lost.  Who do you want?  I think it's a tough call, but I want Tatum.  He reminds me so much of Pierce.

Tatum had a good game at the right time. Would've had 28 but that 3 got disallowed. He's got real skills already with room to grow both physically and head-wise.

Jacksons second incident within a month is a concern. Glad the KU administration gave him a slap and suspended him for a tournament (even though just a conference tourney) game. Not sure they would've done it next week in the field of 64. He's a great prospect though.

I'm thrilled,as I've said many times, to be getting one of Fulton, Ball, Jackson or Tatum.
Title: Re: Thursday 3/9: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: chilidawg on March 10, 2017, 12:15:07 AM
Tatum led his team with 25 points on 9-15 shooting in a tough win.  Josh Jackson was suspended and his team lost.  Who do you want?  I think it's a tough call, but I want Tatum.  He reminds me so much of Pierce.

Just one game for each of them.
Title: Re: Thursday 3/9: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: tazzmaniac on March 10, 2017, 02:01:39 AM
Harry Giles has fallen to 25 in the DraftExpress mock.  He really needs to stay at Duke another year.  My favorite big, Robert Williams, is up to #10 in their mock.  Really hoping that Ainge does a draft day trade to get him. 
Title: Re: Thursday 3/9: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: trickybilly on March 10, 2017, 05:09:36 AM
Harry Giles has fallen to 25 in the DraftExpress mock.  He really needs to stay at Duke another year.  My favorite big, Robert Williams, is up to #10 in their mock.  Really hoping that Ainge does a draft day trade to get him.

Whiteside for a '17 pick swap, Rozier and Crowder and we take Williams at 14?

 
Title: Re: Thursday 3/9: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on March 10, 2017, 07:47:49 AM
Harry Giles has fallen to 25 in the DraftExpress mock.  He really needs to stay at Duke another year.  My favorite big, Robert Williams, is up to #10 in their mock.  Really hoping that Ainge does a draft day trade to get him.

I like Williams too. A lot of bigs in the 10-30 range.. a lot (13).

Williams, Hartenstine, Bridges, Leaf, Patton, Jarrett Allen, Rabb, Giles, Swanigan, Bam, Motley, Lydon and my favorite Collins.

Love to get a shot at one.
Title: Re: Thursday 3/9: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: A Future of Stevens on March 10, 2017, 07:53:14 AM
I haven't watched any tape at all on R. Williams, but his measurables look awesome. My question is, can he play PF or is he best as an undersized center? I know his length helps make up for it, but hey if he is a PF man is he enormous.
Title: Re: Thursday 3/9: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on March 10, 2017, 08:10:21 AM
UPDATE: Friday 3/10

12:00 ESPN     Mich/Purdue        Moritz Wagner (13)/Swanigan (50)

1:00 ESPN       GA/KY                  Yante Maten(1)/Fox(0), Bam(3), Monk(5)

2:00 ESPN2     Memphis             Dedric Lawson (1)

2:00 ESPN       MichSt                 Miles Bridges (22)

3:00 SECN      SCarolina             Thornwell (0), PJ Dozier (15)

6:30 BTN        Ind/Wisc               Bryant(31)/Nigel Hayes (10)

6:30 FS1         "Nova                  Josh Hart (3)

7:00 SECN     FLA/Vandy            Devon Robinson(1)/Luke Kornet (3)

7:00 ESPN     Duke/UNC            Tatum(0), Giles(1),Allen(3), Kennard(5), FJackson(15)/Justin Jackson(44), Isaiah Hicks (4), Bradley (5)
7:00 ESPN2  Iowa State           Monte Morris (11)

8:55 BTN      MD                        Melo Trimble (2)

9:00 ESPN2   KSt                      Wesley Iwundu (25)

9:00 ESPN    ND/FSU                Beacham(3), Colson (35)/Isaac (1), Bacon (4)

9:00 FS1      Creighton             Justin Patton (23)

10:00 CBSSN   Nevada            Cam Oliver (0)

11:00 ESPN    UCLA/AZ            Ball (2), Leaf (22)/Markkanen(10), Alkins(1), Simmons(2),Trier(35)
Title: Re: Thursday 3/9: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: tazzmaniac on March 10, 2017, 04:19:01 PM
I haven't watched any tape at all on R. Williams, but his measurables look awesome. My question is, can he play PF or is he best as an undersized center? I know his length helps make up for it, but hey if he is a PF man is he enormous.
He mostly play PF at Texas A&M.  He's a raw prospect who is more advanced defensively.  I think he compares favorably to Noel.  Much better rebounder, 20lbs heavier/stronger, more blocks not as many steals, moves/runs pretty well but not as good as Noel.  With his movement, leaping and length, he closes out well on 3pt shooters. 

Here are his highlights from the Kentucky game.  He's pretty good mid-range but he's not a 3pt shooter even though he makes one at the end.  He's got a decent back to the basket post game.  Willing but not always good passer.   
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7EmF8YCBGM4 

Title: Re: Thursday 3/9: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: chilidawg on March 11, 2017, 09:11:56 AM
Anyone see Duke-Carolina yesterday?  I'm curious how Giles looked, from the box he had a nice contribution, 6 points, 7 rebounds, 4 blocks.  Would be great if he had a nice late season run and got himself back in the lottery mix.
Title: Re: Thursday 3/9: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on March 11, 2017, 09:57:37 AM
Anyone see Duke-Carolina yesterday?  I'm curious how Giles looked, from the box he had a nice contribution, 6 points, 7 rebounds, 4 blocks.  Would be great if he had a nice late season run and got himself back in the lottery mix.

The best that I've seen him look all year. He had a great tip-in in the first half and this great flash hope for the future in the second:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bB08FiJXJXg

He was actually running the floor and mixing it up a little inside.
Title: Re: Saturday 3/11: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on March 11, 2017, 12:08:05 PM
UPDATE   Saturday 3/11

1:00 ESPN     Kentucky     Fox (0), Bam(3), Monk (5)

1:00 CBSSN   URI            E.C. Matthews (0)

1:00 CBS     Michigan       Moritz Wagner (13)

3:00 ESPN     Vandy         Luke Kornet (3)

3:30 CBS     Wisconsin     Nigel Hayes  (10)

5:30 FOX     Creighton/"Nova    Justin Patton (23)/Josh Hart (3)

6:00 ESPN   Iowa State    Deonte Burton (30), Monte Morris (11)

9:00 ESPN     ND/Duke    Beacham(3), Colson(35)/Tatum(0), Giles (1), Allen (3),
Kennard (5), FJackson (15), Bolden (20)

11:00 ESPN   AZ/ORE     Markkanen(1), Alkins (1), Simmons (2), Trier(35)/Boucher(25), Bell (1), Brooks(24), Dorsey (5)
Title: Re: Thursday 3/9: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: footey on March 11, 2017, 12:10:45 PM
Anyone see Duke-Carolina yesterday?  I'm curious how Giles looked, from the box he had a nice contribution, 6 points, 7 rebounds, 4 blocks.  Would be great if he had a nice late season run and got himself back in the lottery mix.

The best that I've seen him look all year. He had a great tip-in in the first half and this great flash hope for the future in the second:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bB08FiJXJXg

He was actually running the floor and mixing it up a little inside.

Starting to get his confidence back. Someone is going to steal him if he stays in the draft.
Title: Re: Saturday 3/11: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: footey on March 11, 2017, 12:13:08 PM
UPDATE   Saturday 3/11

1:00 ESPN     Kentucky     Fox (0), Bam(3), Monk (5)

1:00 CBSSN   URI            E.C. Matthews (0)

1:00 CBS     Michigan       Moritz Wagner (13)

3:00 ESPN     Vandy         Luke Kornet (3)

3:30 CBS     Wisconsin     Nigel Hayes  (10)

5:30 FOX     Creighton/"Nova    Justin Patton (23)/Josh Hart (3)

6:00 ESPN   Iowa State    Deonte Burton (30), Monte Morris (11)

9:00 ESPN     ND/Duke    Beacham(3), Colson(35)/Tatum(0), Giles (1), Allen (3),
Kennard (5), FJackson (15), Bolden (20)

11:00 ESPN   AZ/ORE     Markkanen(1), Alkins (1), Simmons (2), Trier(35)/Boucher(25), Bell (1), Brooks(24), Dorsey (5)

Thanks, CSFS60's.  Seems like Tatum is really locking in as a top 4 pick in the draft. He has flown by Isaac.  Would be a decent "consolation prize" if we land at 4. 
Title: Re: Saturday 3/11: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on March 11, 2017, 12:59:42 PM
  Seems like Tatum is really locking in as a top 4 pick in the draft. He has flown by Isaac.  Would be a decent "consolation prize" if we land at 4.

I know I keep repeating this over and over like a little kid, but to be guaranteed one of Fultz/Ball/Jackson/Tatum?........... man, we are blessed.
Title: Re: Saturday 3/11: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: clevelandceltic on March 11, 2017, 01:41:36 PM
UPDATE   Saturday 3/11

1:00 ESPN     Kentucky     Fox (0), Bam(3), Monk (5)

1:00 CBSSN   URI            E.C. Matthews (0)

1:00 CBS     Michigan       Moritz Wagner (13)

3:00 ESPN     Vandy         Luke Kornet (3)

3:30 CBS     Wisconsin     Nigel Hayes  (10)

5:30 FOX     Creighton/"Nova    Justin Patton (23)/Josh Hart (3)

6:00 ESPN   Iowa State    Deonte Burton (30), Monte Morris (11)

9:00 ESPN     ND/Duke    Beacham(3), Colson(35)/Tatum(0), Giles (1), Allen (3),
Kennard (5), FJackson (15), Bolden (20)

11:00 ESPN   AZ/ORE     Markkanen(1), Alkins (1), Simmons (2), Trier(35)/Boucher(25), Bell (1), Brooks(24), Dorsey (5)

Thanks, CSFS60's.  Seems like Tatum is really locking in as a top 4 pick in the draft. He has flown by Isaac.  Would be a decent "consolation prize" if we land at 4.

We cant be sure that he will be there at 4. I saw a report that some GM's have him at 1. Im not saying I have him at 1 but I have him at 2. A wing is more valuable than a PG especially one that projects to have trouble scoring like Ball. All Im saying is that its not a lock that he is sitting there at 4.
Title: Re: Saturday 3/11: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: footey on March 11, 2017, 03:07:57 PM
UPDATE   Saturday 3/11

1:00 ESPN     Kentucky     Fox (0), Bam(3), Monk (5)

1:00 CBSSN   URI            E.C. Matthews (0)

1:00 CBS     Michigan       Moritz Wagner (13)

3:00 ESPN     Vandy         Luke Kornet (3)

3:30 CBS     Wisconsin     Nigel Hayes  (10)

5:30 FOX     Creighton/"Nova    Justin Patton (23)/Josh Hart (3)

6:00 ESPN   Iowa State    Deonte Burton (30), Monte Morris (11)

9:00 ESPN     ND/Duke    Beacham(3), Colson(35)/Tatum(0), Giles (1), Allen (3),
Kennard (5), FJackson (15), Bolden (20)

11:00 ESPN   AZ/ORE     Markkanen(1), Alkins (1), Simmons (2), Trier(35)/Boucher(25), Bell (1), Brooks(24), Dorsey (5)

Thanks, CSFS60's.  Seems like Tatum is really locking in as a top 4 pick in the draft. He has flown by Isaac.  Would be a decent "consolation prize" if we land at 4.

We cant be sure that he will be there at 4. I saw a report that some GM's have him at 1. Im not saying I have him at 1 but I have him at 2. A wing is more valuable than a PG especially one that projects to have trouble scoring like Ball. All Im saying is that its not a lock that he is sitting there at 4.

Interesting but my point is that any of the top 4 is going to be a strong addition. My fav is Jackson.
Title: Re: Saturday 3/11: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: sahara on March 11, 2017, 03:52:38 PM
Markkanen dropped 29pts against UCLA. I remember watching games live when his dad blocked shots in the 90´s here (he was really good). It´s almost uneblievable that we finally have a prospect like Lauri from the tiny nation of ours.
Title: Re: Saturday 3/11: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: clevelandceltic on March 11, 2017, 03:54:19 PM
UPDATE   Saturday 3/11

1:00 ESPN     Kentucky     Fox (0), Bam(3), Monk (5)

1:00 CBSSN   URI            E.C. Matthews (0)

1:00 CBS     Michigan       Moritz Wagner (13)

3:00 ESPN     Vandy         Luke Kornet (3)

3:30 CBS     Wisconsin     Nigel Hayes  (10)

5:30 FOX     Creighton/"Nova    Justin Patton (23)/Josh Hart (3)

6:00 ESPN   Iowa State    Deonte Burton (30), Monte Morris (11)

9:00 ESPN     ND/Duke    Beacham(3), Colson(35)/Tatum(0), Giles (1), Allen (3),
Kennard (5), FJackson (15), Bolden (20)

11:00 ESPN   AZ/ORE     Markkanen(1), Alkins (1), Simmons (2), Trier(35)/Boucher(25), Bell (1), Brooks(24), Dorsey (5)

Thanks, CSFS60's.  Seems like Tatum is really locking in as a top 4 pick in the draft. He has flown by Isaac.  Would be a decent "consolation prize" if we land at 4.

We cant be sure that he will be there at 4. I saw a report that some GM's have him at 1. Im not saying I have him at 1 but I have him at 2. A wing is more valuable than a PG especially one that projects to have trouble scoring like Ball. All Im saying is that its not a lock that he is sitting there at 4.

Interesting but my point is that any of the top 4 is going to be a strong addition. My fav is Jackson.

I agree for the most part. I like Jackson alot but he presents challenges with his current shooting. I will say that when you put the best players on the floor he is usually top 3 which means alot to me. Adding Ball Im not as certain.  But I agree in general though.
Title: Re: Saturday 3/11: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on March 11, 2017, 07:26:54 PM
Anybody watching Iowa State vs WVA?

Boy can Monte Morris and Deonte Burton play.

This team will make some noise in the Big Dance.
Title: Re: Saturday 3/11: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on March 11, 2017, 10:26:46 PM
Bonzie Colson so far the best player on the floor against Duke in ACC Championship game halfway through the second half.

The New Bedford guy is ballin'.

EDIT: I jinxed him. Sprained his ankle with 8 min to go.....came back in after a few possessions after walking it off in the tunnel, but did nothing after that.

Tatum.....wow.
Title: Re: Sunday 3/12: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on March 12, 2017, 10:44:37 AM
UPDATE: SELECTION SUNDAY 3/13


12:30 CBS     URI          E.C. Matthews (0)

1:00  ESPN    Kentucky  Fox (0), Bam(3), Monk (5)

3:00 CBS      Mich/Wisc   Moritz Wagner (13)/Nigel Hayes (10)
Title: Re: Sunday 3/12: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on March 12, 2017, 03:16:11 PM
REMINDER:

SELECTION SUNDAY COVERAGE

5:30 CBS
Title: Re: Sunday 3/12: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: Ilikesports17 on March 12, 2017, 03:21:05 PM
TP for keeping track of this all year. Ill try to fire some more your way later.

This thread has been super helpful and allowed me to catch more college basketball than I usually do.
Title: Re: Sunday 3/12: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: footey on March 12, 2017, 03:24:04 PM
TP for keeping track of this all year. Ill try to fire some more your way later.

This thread has been super helpful and allowed me to catch more college basketball than I usually do.

Totally agree.
Title: Re: Sunday 3/12: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: KG Living Legend on March 12, 2017, 03:58:02 PM
TP for keeping track of this all year. Ill try to fire some more your way later.

This thread has been super helpful and allowed me to catch more college basketball than I usually do.

Totally agree.



 Agreed..Nice job C's fan Tp.
Title: Re: Saturday 3/11: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: blink on March 12, 2017, 04:10:41 PM
Anybody watching Iowa State vs WVA?

Boy can Monte Morris and Deonte Burton play.

This team will make some noise in the Big Dance.

As an Iowa State Alum, this makes me very happy.
so did this:

http://ftw.usatoday.com/2017/03/iowa-state-cyclones-deonte-burton-alley-oop-poster-dunk-big-12-championship-highlight-video (http://ftw.usatoday.com/2017/03/iowa-state-cyclones-deonte-burton-alley-oop-poster-dunk-big-12-championship-highlight-video)
Title: Re: Sunday 3/12: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on March 12, 2017, 07:11:46 PM
TP for keeping track of this all year. Ill try to fire some more your way later.

This thread has been super helpful and allowed me to catch more college basketball than I usually do.

Totally agree.



 Agreed..Nice job C's fan Tp.

Thanks guys....and TPs to footey, KGL and Ilike for the kind words.

It has been fun and instructive for me personally about the depth of this draft class and college hoops in general, so I've really enjoyed doing it. Shout-out to tazzmaniac for filling in the few days that I couldn't do it.

Hard to believe that Nov 15th was when we started this. 4 months goes by fast, but it truly has been a labor of love, and I'd be lying if I said that it doesn't make me feel like I have given back to Csblog for all the hours of enjoyment that Csblog and posters like you guys have given me. Psyched that the thread has gotten over 25,000 views and counting.

I'll keep doing it till Championship Monday and do it again next year. 
Title: Re: Saturday 3/11: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on March 12, 2017, 07:18:14 PM
Anybody watching Iowa State vs WVA?

Boy can Monte Morris and Deonte Burton play.

This team will make some noise in the Big Dance.

As an Iowa State Alum, this makes me very happy.
so did this:

http://ftw.usatoday.com/2017/03/iowa-state-cyclones-deonte-burton-alley-oop-poster-dunk-big-12-championship-highlight-video (http://ftw.usatoday.com/2017/03/iowa-state-cyclones-deonte-burton-alley-oop-poster-dunk-big-12-championship-highlight-video)

Burton is a force of nature. Cyclone is an apt name for him. great clip.

Monte Morris is going to make a good pro. Rock steady with an assist to turnover ratio off almost 6 to 1.....staggering
Title: Re: Sunday 3/12: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: chilidawg on March 13, 2017, 12:59:25 AM
My favorite thread on the blog.
Title: Re: Sunday 3/12: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on March 13, 2017, 09:18:53 PM
My favorite thread on the blog.

TP, chili....thanks!
Title: Re: Monday 3/13: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on March 13, 2017, 09:21:27 PM
LATE UPDATE: Tuesday, 3/14

This one snuck up on me. Better late than never.

9:00 truTV     Kansas St/Wake Forest    Wesley Iwundu(25)/John Collins (20)

EDIT: guess I was mistakenly early...apologies
Title: Re: Monday 3/13: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: The One on March 13, 2017, 09:25:44 PM
Thank you csfansince60s!
Title: Re: Tuesday 3/14: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on March 14, 2017, 02:50:56 PM
UPDATE: Tuesday 3/14

NCAA Tournament First Four Game for 11th seed

9:00 truTV     Wake/KSt         John Collins(20)/Wesley Iwundu (25)


NIT Opening Round

7:00 ESPNU    Clemson          Blossomgame (5)

9:00 ESPN      GTech/Ind        Ben Lammers (44)/Thomas Bryant (31)

10:00 ESPNU   Utah               Kuzma (35)

11:15 ESPN2 California           Rabb (1)       
Title: Re: Tuesday 3/14: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on March 14, 2017, 07:04:21 PM
UPDATE: Tuesday 3/14

NCAA Tournament First Four Game for 11th seed

9:00 truTV     Wake/KSt         John Collins(20)/Wesley Iwundu (25)


NIT Opening Round

7:00 ESPNU    Clemson          Blossomgame (5)

9:00 ESPN      GTech/Ind        Ben Lammers (44)/Thomas Bryant (31)

10:00 ESPNU   Utah               Kuzma (35)

11:15 ESPN2 California           Rabb (1)       

Tomorrow will be the 2nd First 4 game with PC playing USC for the 11th seed.

Also, a bunch of NIT games.
Title: Re: Wednesday 3/15: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on March 15, 2017, 08:29:27 AM
UPDATE: Wednesday 3/15

NIT Schedule

7:00 ESPN3     Georgia          Yante Maten (1)

7:00 ESPN2     Syracuse        Tyler Lydon (2)

9:00 ESPN2     Iowa              Peter Jok (14)



Tomorrow: First round of NCAAs
Title: Re: Thurssday 3/16: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on March 16, 2017, 08:57:36 AM
UPDATE: Thursday 3/16


NCAA TOURNAMENT FIRST ROUND


12:15 CBS      Notre Dame           VJ Beacham (3), Bonzie Colson (35)

2:00  TBS       Gonzaga                Nigel Wm_Goss(5), Zach Collins (32), Karnowski (24)

3:10  truTV    Florida                    Devin Robinson (1)   

4:30 TBS       Vandy                   Luke Kornet (3)

6:50 TNT       Maryland              Melo Trimble (2)

7:10 CBS       Villanaova             Josh Hart (3), Jalen Brunson  (1)

7:27 truTV     Purdue                  Caleb Swanigan (50)

9:20 TNT       Florida State         Isaac(1), Bacon (4)

9:40 CBS      Wisconsin              Nigel Hayes (10)

9:50 TBS      Arizona                  Markkanen (10), Trier (35), Alkins (1), Simmons (2)

9:57 truTV   Nevada/IOSt          Cam Oliver (0)/Monte Morris (11)/Deonte Burton (30) 
Title: Re: Friday 3/17: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on March 17, 2017, 09:30:21 AM
UPDATE: Friday, March 17th

NCAA Tournament First Round/2nd Day


12:15 CBS      OKSt/Mich        Jawun Evans(1), Moritz Wagner (13)

12:40 truTV    Baylor              Motley (5)

2:00 TBS        Oregon            Bell(1), Dorsey (5), Brooks (24)

2:45 CBS       Louisville          Donovan Mitchell (45)

4:00 TNT       UNC                 Justin Jackson(44), I Hicks (4), Tony Bradley (5)

4:30 TBS      URI/Creighton    EC Matthews(0), Justin Patton (23)

6:50 TNT       Kansas             Josh jackson (11), Mason (0), Mikhailiuk (10)

7;20 TBS      Duke                 Tatum(0), Giles(1), Allen(3), Kennard (5), FJackson(15), Bolden (20)

7:27 truTV    KSt                  Wesley Iwindu (25)

9:20 TNT      MichSt              Miles Bridges (22)

9:40 CBS     Kentucky           Fox(0), Bam(3), Monk (5)

9:50 TBS     SCarolina           Thornwell(0), PJ Dozier(15)

9:17 truTV   UCLA                Ball (2), Leaf (22), Ike Anigbogu (13)





Title: Re: Friday 3/17: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: saltlover on March 17, 2017, 10:20:22 AM
I'd add DJ Wilson to the Michigan-OK State list.  Of the Michigan stretch bigs, I think he's the one more likely to leave school this year as opposed to Wagner.

Also, he's not listed on most mock draft lists, but Derrick Walton Jr. of Michigan is totally an Ainge/Stevens PG.  Good from the 3 and FT line, plus rebounder for the position, and a total gamer.  He's the type of player they might select with one of their 2nds in the 50s and give a Two-way contract to.  If Michigan has a deep run in the tourney, it will be due to him, and his name will start popping up more.  He dealt with recurring ankle injuries his sophomore and junior years, which held him back, but this year he's been healthy all season and is playing terrifically.  Caleb Swanigan was player of the year, but Walton is tops in the conference in many of the advanced stats -- offensive rating, offensive box plus-minus, win shares.
Title: Re: Friday 3/17: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: smokeablount on March 17, 2017, 10:56:20 AM
I'd add DJ Wilson to the Michigan-OK State list.  Of the Michigan stretch bigs, I think he's the one more likely to leave school this year as opposed to Wagner.

Also, he's not listed on most mock draft lists, but Derrick Walton Jr. of Michigan is totally an Ainge/Stevens PG.  Good from the 3 and FT line, plus rebounder for the position, and a total gamer.  He's the type of player they might select with one of their 2nds in the 50s and give a Two-way contract to.  If Michigan has a deep run in the tourney, it will be due to him, and his name will start popping up more.  He dealt with recurring ankle injuries his sophomore and junior years, which held him back, but this year he's been healthy all season and is playing terrifically.  Caleb Swanigan was player of the year, but Walton is tops in the conference in many of the advanced stats -- offensive rating, offensive box plus-minus, win shares.

Good digging, can't say I can speak much to good second rounders this year, been too caught up in the top of the draft and those 4-6 guys.  I feel like Alonzo Trier could be a solid pro, but not fully sold, and not sure he drops to round 2 either.
Title: Re: Friday 3/17: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: saltlover on March 17, 2017, 02:38:26 PM
I'd add DJ Wilson to the Michigan-OK State list.  Of the Michigan stretch bigs, I think he's the one more likely to leave school this year as opposed to Wagner.

Also, he's not listed on most mock draft lists, but Derrick Walton Jr. of Michigan is totally an Ainge/Stevens PG.  Good from the 3 and FT line, plus rebounder for the position, and a total gamer.  He's the type of player they might select with one of their 2nds in the 50s and give a Two-way contract to.  If Michigan has a deep run in the tourney, it will be due to him, and his name will start popping up more.  He dealt with recurring ankle injuries his sophomore and junior years, which held him back, but this year he's been healthy all season and is playing terrifically.  Caleb Swanigan was player of the year, but Walton is tops in the conference in many of the advanced stats -- offensive rating, offensive box plus-minus, win shares.

DJ Wilson finished with 19 points on 6-12, along with 5 boards and 4 blocks.
Derrick Walton Jr. had 26 on 7-13 (including 6-9 from 3), 11 assists, 5 boards, 2 steals, 1 block and 2 charges drawn.

Both proved me right today.  If you didn't watch the game, find the replay.  It was definitely the best-played game of the tournament so far.
Title: Re: Friday 3/17: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on March 18, 2017, 09:02:33 AM
UPDATE:      Saturday, March 18th

NCAA Tournament; 2nd Round



12:10 CBS     Notre Dame        VJ Beacham (3), Bonzie Colson (35)

2:40  CBS      Villanova/Wisc     Josh Hart (3), Jalen Brunson (1)/Nigel Hayes (10)

5:15  CBS      Gonzaga       Nigel Wms-Goss(5),Zach Collins(32),Karnowski(24)

6:10  TNT      Florida State       Jonathan Isaac (1), Dwayne Bacon (4)

7:45  CBS     Arizona              Markkanen(10), Trier (35), Alkins(1), Simmons (2)

8:40  TNT     Florida                Devin Robinson (1)

9:40  TBS    IowaSt/Pur    Monte Morris(11), Deonte Burton(30)/Swanigan (50)

Title: Re: Sunday 3/19: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on March 19, 2017, 09:31:04 AM
UPDATE:      Sunday, March 19th


NCAA Tournament: 2nd Round


12:10 CBS          Michigan/Louis     Wagner (13), Wilson(5), Walton(10)/Mitchell (45)

2:40   CBS          Kentucky              Fox(0), Bam(3), Monk (5)

5:15   CBS          Mich St/Kansas     Bridges (22)/Jackson(11), Mason (0), Mikhailiuk (10)

6:10   TNT           UNC                     Jackson(44), IHicks (4), Tony Bradley (15)

7:10   TBS          URI/Ore                EC Matthews(0)/Bell(1), Dorsey (5), Brooks (24)

7:45   truTV       Baylor                   Motley (5)

8:40   TNT         SC/Duke               Thornwell(0), PJ Dozier(15)/Tatum(0),Giles(1), Allen(3), Kennard (5), FJackson(15), Bolden(20)

9:40  TBS         UCLA                     Ball(2), Leaf (22), Ike Anigbogu (13)
Title: Re: Sunday 3/19: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: hodgy03038 on March 19, 2017, 10:03:52 AM
I watched some of the Arizona game last night and I have to say I was not impressed at all with Markkanen.

Title: Re: Sunday 3/19: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: tazzmaniac on March 19, 2017, 10:37:48 AM
I watched some of the Arizona game last night and I have to say I was not impressed at all with Markkanen.
Why not?  What were you expecting?  16pt 11reb 2blks is not bad at all.  I've become more impressed with Markkanen as the season has progressed.  He started off staying on the perimeter and just being a very good 3pt shooter.  Now he's battling inside with bigs and starting to drive to the basket on occasion. 
Title: Re: Sunday 3/19: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: hodgy03038 on March 19, 2017, 10:40:25 AM
I watched some of the Arizona game last night and I have to say I was not impressed at all with Markkanen.
Why not?  What were you expecting?  16pt 11reb 2blks is not bad at all.  I've become more impressed with Markkanen as the season has progressed.  He started off staying on the perimeter and just being a very good 3pt shooter.  Now he's battling inside with bigs and starting to drive to the basket on occasion.

Most people here (including me) think that Kelly is passive. This kid's picture is in the dictionary for passive.
Title: Re: Sunday 3/19: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on March 19, 2017, 12:01:06 PM
UPDATE: Sunday 3/19

NIT Tournament


12:00 ESPN     Ga Tech       Ben Lammers (44)

5:00  ESPN2    Iowa           Peter Jok (14)
Title: Re: Sunday 3/19: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: tazzmaniac on March 19, 2017, 01:13:36 PM
I watched some of the Arizona game last night and I have to say I was not impressed at all with Markkanen.
Why not?  What were you expecting?  16pt 11reb 2blks is not bad at all.  I've become more impressed with Markkanen as the season has progressed.  He started off staying on the perimeter and just being a very good 3pt shooter.  Now he's battling inside with bigs and starting to drive to the basket on occasion.

Most people here (including me) think that Kelly is passive. This kid's picture is in the dictionary for passive.
I might have agreed with you at the beginning of the season but not anymore.  Markkanen has  been more active and has showed a more diversified game as the season progressed.  I'd say Isaac is more passive than Markkanen. 
Title: Re: Sunday 3/19: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on March 19, 2017, 09:09:57 PM
Sindarius Thornwell, first 7 of SC's11 points.

If SC has a chance vs Duke, it will be because of Thornwell.

Had 44/21 game vs'Bama this year.
Title: Re: Sunday 3/19: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: liam on March 19, 2017, 09:33:34 PM
I watched some of the Arizona game last night and I have to say I was not impressed at all with Markkanen.
Why not?  What were you expecting?  16pt 11reb 2blks is not bad at all.  I've become more impressed with Markkanen as the season has progressed.  He started off staying on the perimeter and just being a very good 3pt shooter.  Now he's battling inside with bigs and starting to drive to the basket on occasion.

Most people here (including me) think that Kelly is passive. This kid's picture is in the dictionary for passive.

Markkanen looks slow footed to me and I think he'll end up as an off the bench shooter on a good team.
Title: Re: Sunday 3/19: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on March 19, 2017, 11:20:08 PM
Sindarius Thornwell, first 7 of SC's11 points.

If SC has a chance vs Duke, it will be because of Thornwell.

Had 44/21 game vs'Bama this year.

Congrats to Thornwell and the Gamecocks for their victory over Duke and their first Sweet 16 ever.
Title: Re: Sunday 3/19: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: footey on March 19, 2017, 11:42:21 PM
Ball and Jackson looking good.

Tatum had a disappointing game.
Title: Re: Sunday 3/19: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: liam on March 20, 2017, 12:21:27 AM
Ball and Jackson looking good.

Tatum had a disappointing game.

I watched the UCLA game and Ball was Amazing! I don't know if he'll be able to defend his position in the NBA but with Smart and Bradley we'd probably be able to cover for that.
Title: Re: Sunday 3/19: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: KG Living Legend on March 20, 2017, 12:36:10 AM

 Lonzo Ball just domimanting the second half against Cincinnati. What a talent. Best player in the Draft.
Title: Re: Sunday 3/19: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: tarheelsxxiii on March 20, 2017, 12:38:35 AM
Ball and Jackson looking good.

Tatum had a disappointing game.

I watched the UCLA game and Ball was Amazing! I don't know if he'll be able to defend his position in the NBA but with Smart and Bradley we'd probably be able to cover for that.

You just caused all the IT critics here some serious mental anguish.
Title: Re: Sunday 3/19: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: Ilikesports17 on March 20, 2017, 12:40:54 AM
Ball and Jackson looking good.

Tatum had a disappointing game.

I watched the UCLA game and Ball was Amazing! I don't know if he'll be able to defend his position in the NBA but with Smart and Bradley we'd probably be able to cover for that.

You just caused all the IT critics here some serious mental anguish.
A Lonzo Ball IT backcourt would be so lethal offensively but so horrible defensively.

Fultz at least projects to be able to defend both the 1 and 2 making him a better fit long term with IT.
Title: Re: Sunday 3/19: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on March 20, 2017, 12:41:28 AM
We're on the same page with liking Jackson#1.👍

Hope we get him, but still psyched about getting one of Jackson, Ball, Fultz, Tatum.

Like to get a late first to get one of the numerous quality bigs.

I'd take a chance on Thomas Bryant if he's still there for our early second.
Title: Re: Sunday 3/19: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on March 20, 2017, 12:44:19 AM

 Lonzo Ball just domimanting the second half against Cincinnati. What a talent. Best player in the Draft.

WINNER!
Title: Re: Sunday 3/19: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: tarheelsxxiii on March 20, 2017, 12:57:22 AM
Ball and Jackson looking good.

Tatum had a disappointing game.

I watched the UCLA game and Ball was Amazing! I don't know if he'll be able to defend his position in the NBA but with Smart and Bradley we'd probably be able to cover for that.

You just caused all the IT critics here some serious mental anguish.
A Lonzo Ball IT backcourt would be so lethal offensively but so horrible defensively.

Fultz at least projects to be able to defend both the 1 and 2 making him a better fit long term with IT.

Agreed on that backcourt, and would much prefer Fultz for his fit in a lot of areas.  Whatever happens, it's nice to be drafting another top talent to go with Brown. 
Title: Re: Sunday 3/19: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: KG Living Legend on March 20, 2017, 12:58:28 AM

 Lonzo Ball just domimanting the second half against Cincinnati. What a talent. Best player in the Draft.

WINNER!



 Plus one C's fan!

 You know what the most important stat in basketball is? Winning.

 Last year UCLA went 15 Wins and 17 losses.

 With Ball leading the way. Right now they are at 30 wins and 4 losses. TJ leaf is nice but ball transformed the team.

 Finally. Ball made The Little guy from UCLA's job 100% easier this year. Their PG Alford has had a ball playing with him this year.
Title: Re: Sunday 3/19: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on March 20, 2017, 07:28:39 PM

 Lonzo Ball just domimanting the second half against Cincinnati. What a talent. Best player in the Draft.

WINNER!



 Plus one C's fan!

 You know what the most important stat in basketball is? Winning.

 Last year UCLA went 15 Wins and 17 losses.

 With Ball leading the way. Right now they are at 30 wins and 4 losses. TJ leaf is nice but ball transformed the team.

 Finally. Ball made The Little guy from UCLA's job 100% easier this year. Their PG Alford has had a ball playing with him this year.

back atcha!

Ball/Jackson/Fultz/Tatum....wow!!!
Title: Re: Sunday 3/19: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on March 21, 2017, 09:49:06 AM
UPDATE: Tuesday March 21st


NIT Tournament


9:00 ESPN2       GA Tech         Ben Lammers (44)
Title: Re: Tuesday 3/21: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: A Future of Stevens on March 21, 2017, 11:51:15 AM
Josh Jackson is easily my favorite player left in the tourney. He has made me a Kansas fan (not really, but I plan on catching the rest of their games.)

There is just something so engaging about seeing a player of his talent level making all of the little plays. His movement off the ball is amazing. It is like he is playing basketball even when he isn't involved in the play in any shape or form.
Title: Re: Thursday 3/23: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on March 23, 2017, 06:31:36 PM
UPDATE: Thursday, March 23rd


NCAA TOURNAMENT



7:09 CBS   Mich/ORE     3Ws: Wagner(13), Wilson(5),Walton(10)/Bell(1), Dorsey(5),Brooks(5)


7:39 TBS   Gonzaga      Zach Collins (13), Nigel Wms-Goss (5), Karnowski (24)


9:39 CBS  Purdue/Kansas    Swanigan(50)/Josh Jackson(11), Mikhailiuk (10), MasonIII (0)


10:07 TBS  Xavier/Arizona   Trevon Bluiett (5)/ Markkanen(10),Trier(35), Alkins (1),Simmons (2)

Title: Re: Thursday 3/23: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on March 23, 2017, 11:51:34 PM
Frank MasonIII AND Devonte Graham 52 points for that backcourt! 😳

Mason, like Kennard at Duke, many times looked like the best player on the floor this year.

Kansas  outscored Purdue something like 73-33 from later in the first half onward.

Juggernaut.
Title: Re: Friday 3/24: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on March 24, 2017, 04:06:08 PM
UPDATE:  Friday March 24th


NCAA TOURNAMENT



7:09 CBS       UNC       Justin Jackson(44), I Hicks(4), Tony Bradley (5)


7:29 TBS       SC/Bayl    Thornwell(0), PJ Dozier (15)/Motley (5)


9:39 CBS      UCLA/KY   Ball(2), Leaf (22), Anigbogu (13)/Fox(0), Bam(3), Monk (5)


9:59 TBS      Wisc/FLA   Hayes(10), Happ(22)/Devin Robinson(1) (like this kid A LOT)

Title: Re: Friday 3/24: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on March 24, 2017, 06:07:55 PM
Predictions for tonight?

TP to whoever gets most right!!! (multiple winners allowed)

I got:

NC (too much talent/experience)
SC (underrated; Thornwell explodes)
UCLA (beat them at Lexington, will do it again, too deep)
Wisc (experience tops athleticism here)
Title: Re: Friday 3/24: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: tazzmaniac on March 24, 2017, 06:19:11 PM
Predictions for tonight?

TP to whoever gets most right!!! (multiple winners allowed)

I got:

NC (too much talent/experience)
SC (underrated; Thornwell explodes)
UCLA (beat them at Lexington, will do it again, too deep)
Wisc (experience tops athleticism here)
Since I'm from SEC country, I'll go NC, SC, Kentucky and Florida. 
Title: Re: Friday 3/24: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: smokeablount on March 24, 2017, 06:51:05 PM
Predictions for tonight?

TP to whoever gets most right!!! (multiple winners allowed)

I got:

NC (too much talent/experience)
SC (underrated; Thornwell explodes)
UCLA (beat them at Lexington, will do it again, too deep)
Wisc (experience tops athleticism here)
Since I'm from SEC country, I'll go NC, SC, Kentucky and Florida.

UNC, SC, Kentucky, Wisconsin.  Mostly I'm rooting for Kentucky to beat UCLA.
Title: Re: Friday 3/24: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on March 24, 2017, 07:03:28 PM
Predictions for tonight?

TP to whoever gets most right!!! (multiple winners allowed)

I got:

NC (too much talent/experience)
SC (underrated; Thornwell explodes)
UCLA (beat them at Lexington, will do it again, too deep)
Wisc (experience tops athleticism here)
Since I'm from SEC country, I'll go NC, SC, Kentucky and Florida.

UNC, SC, Kentucky, Wisconsin.  Mostly I'm rooting for Kentucky to beat UCLA.


Hard to disagree with you. Difficult to beat a real good team like KY twice in the same year. Plus hard to root for ANY LA team. ;D I get it.
Title: Re: Friday 3/24: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: tazzmaniac on March 24, 2017, 07:08:19 PM
Predictions for tonight?

TP to whoever gets most right!!! (multiple winners allowed)

I got:

NC (too much talent/experience)
SC (underrated; Thornwell explodes)
UCLA (beat them at Lexington, will do it again, too deep)
Wisc (experience tops athleticism here)
Since I'm from SEC country, I'll go NC, SC, Kentucky and Florida.

UNC, SC, Kentucky, Wisconsin.  Mostly I'm rooting for Kentucky to beat UCLA.


Hard to disagree with you. Difficult to beat a real good team like KY twice in the same year. Plus hard to root for ANY LA team. ;D I get it.
I want to see a UNC and Kentucky rematch.  That was a great game. 
Title: Re: Friday 3/24: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: smokeablount on March 24, 2017, 09:23:05 PM
Predictions for tonight?

TP to whoever gets most right!!! (multiple winners allowed)

I got:

NC (too much talent/experience)
SC (underrated; Thornwell explodes)
UCLA (beat them at Lexington, will do it again, too deep)
Wisc (experience tops athleticism here)
Since I'm from SEC country, I'll go NC, SC, Kentucky and Florida.

UNC, SC, Kentucky, Wisconsin.  Mostly I'm rooting for Kentucky to beat UCLA.


Hard to disagree with you. Difficult to beat a real good team like KY twice in the same year. Plus hard to root for ANY LA team. ;D I get it.
I want to see a UNC and Kentucky rematch.  That was a great game.

Agre with both your reasons... Also I bet on Kansas to win it all before the tourney, just put a hedge bet on Kentucky today at +1000. If Kentucky gets hot I think they have the best chance to beat Kansas. We shall see. If UNC wins it all I will be peeved.
Title: Re: Friday 3/24: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: YoungOne87 on March 24, 2017, 10:37:12 PM
balls defense and jumper looking more than suspect to me..
Title: Re: Friday 3/24: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: SHAQATTACK on March 24, 2017, 10:43:16 PM
Foxx. Has got handles like crazy and a IT like touch for shooting.

I'll take Foxx over Ball "thank you
Title: Re: Friday 3/24: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: hwangjini_1 on March 24, 2017, 10:43:16 PM
balls defense and jumper looking more than suspect to me..
cant speak to the jumper since he certainly can score. but his defense in the game tonight seems almost lazy.

but this is the first time i have seen him really so it's hard to generalize off of this for me.
Title: Re: Friday 3/24: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: SHAQATTACK on March 24, 2017, 10:46:26 PM
balls defense and jumper looking more than suspect to me..
cant speak to the jumper since he certainly can score. but his defense in the game tonight seems almost lazy.

but this is the first time i have seen him really so it's hard to generalize off of this for me.

Ball is not much on defense I agree.   The NBA guys are gonna play 10 X more aggressive.......he is almost KO shy on defense .

Ball has great passing and court vision .......Foxx looks like the next Super star
Title: Re: Friday 3/24: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: liam on March 24, 2017, 11:39:37 PM
balls defense and jumper looking more than suspect to me..
cant speak to the jumper since he certainly can score. but his defense in the game tonight seems almost lazy.

but this is the first time i have seen him really so it's hard to generalize off of this for me.

Ball is not much on defense I agree.   The NBA guys are gonna play 10 X more aggressive.......he is almost KO shy on defense .

Ball has great passing and court vision .......Foxx looks like the next Super star

Monk and Fox both badly out playing Ball.
Title: Re: Friday 3/24: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: footey on March 24, 2017, 11:55:09 PM
Fox just put himself in the top 3-4 conversation. Very impressive.
Title: Re: Friday 3/24: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: droopdog7 on March 24, 2017, 11:55:56 PM
I think we're seeing why ball is not the#1 pick.  Great vision, but just isn't enough of a scorer.  Jason Kidd still carved out a [dang] good career but the lack of offense matters.
Title: Re: Friday 3/24: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: footey on March 24, 2017, 11:57:37 PM
Ball was off tonight but still a helluva player. Still should go too 2-3.
Title: Re: Friday 3/24: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: hwangjini_1 on March 24, 2017, 11:58:15 PM
I think we're seeing why ball is not the#1 pick.  Great vision, but just isn't enough of a scorer.  Jason Kidd still carved out a [dang] good career but the lack of offense matters.
kid played great defense. i havent see that from ball yet.
Title: Re: Friday 3/24: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: Denis998 on March 24, 2017, 11:58:55 PM
What a great game, great to see Lonzo Ball lose
Title: Re: Friday 3/24: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: tazzmaniac on March 25, 2017, 01:20:30 AM
Predictions for tonight?

TP to whoever gets most right!!! (multiple winners allowed)

I got:

NC (too much talent/experience)
SC (underrated; Thornwell explodes)
UCLA (beat them at Lexington, will do it again, too deep)
Wisc (experience tops athleticism here)
Since I'm from SEC country, I'll go NC, SC, Kentucky and Florida.

UNC, SC, Kentucky, Wisconsin.  Mostly I'm rooting for Kentucky to beat UCLA.


Hard to disagree with you. Difficult to beat a real good team like KY twice in the same year. Plus hard to root for ANY LA team. ;D I get it.
I want to see a UNC and Kentucky rematch.  That was a great game.

Agre with both your reasons... Also I bet on Kansas to win it all before the tourney, just put a hedge bet on Kentucky today at +1000. If Kentucky gets hot I think they have the best chance to beat Kansas. We shall see. If UNC wins it all I will be peeved.
SEC! SEC! SEC!  And get the UNC Kentucky rematch.  Worked out perfectly.
Title: Re: Friday 3/24: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on March 25, 2017, 01:26:10 AM
Predictions for tonight?

TP to whoever gets most right!!! (multiple winners allowed)

I got:

NC (too much talent/experience)
SC (underrated; Thornwell explodes)
UCLA (beat them at Lexington, will do it again, too deep)
Wisc (experience tops athleticism here)
Since I'm from SEC country, I'll go NC, SC, Kentucky and Florida.

UNC, SC, Kentucky, Wisconsin.  Mostly I'm rooting for Kentucky to beat UCLA.


Hard to disagree with you. Difficult to beat a real good team like KY twice in the same year. Plus hard to root for ANY LA team. ;D I get it.
I want to see a UNC and Kentucky rematch.  That was a great game.

Agre with both your reasons... Also I bet on Kansas to win it all before the tourney, just put a hedge bet on Kentucky today at +1000. If Kentucky gets hot I think they have the best chance to beat Kansas. We shall see. If UNC wins it all I will be peeved.
SEC! SEC! SEC!  And get the UNC Kentucky rematch.  Worked out perfectly.

TP....we have a winner!
Title: Re: Friday 3/24: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: Mlewis1392 on March 25, 2017, 01:30:00 AM
Everyone compares Ball to Kidd but against Kentucky today he looked like Rondo to me
Title: Re: Friday 3/24: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: SHAQATTACK on March 25, 2017, 01:38:14 AM
Everyone compares Ball to Kidd but against Kentucky today he looked like Rondo to me

Yup.....I saw some nice passes.  Barely average Defense at best , low energy ,  he avoided contact , seemed to,avoid probing into the paint.   

Worst , Ball seemed to shrink when the pressure got turned up. 

He will be lucky to be taken 4 or 5 pick now . 

Big mouth father go home
Title: Re: Friday 3/24: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: MattyIce on March 25, 2017, 01:50:05 AM
Everyone compares Ball to Kidd but against Kentucky today he looked like Rondo to me

Yup.....I saw some nice passes.  Barely average Defense at best , low energy ,  he avoided contact , seemed to,avoid probing into the paint.   

Worst , Ball seemed to shrink when the pressure got turned up. 

He will be lucky to be taken 4 or 5 pick now . 

Big mouth father go home

I agree but I think it's unlikely lakers pass on him, wont fall past them, good riddance...unless of course we end up with him..and then HOF here we come
Title: Re: Friday 3/24: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: tazzmaniac on March 25, 2017, 09:48:32 AM
Everyone compares Ball to Kidd but against Kentucky today he looked like Rondo to me

Yup.....I saw some nice passes.  Barely average Defense at best , low energy ,  he avoided contact , seemed to,avoid probing into the paint.   

Worst , Ball seemed to shrink when the pressure got turned up. 

He will be lucky to be taken 4 or 5 pick now . 

Big mouth father go home
It is amazing how people on here take a single performance and use it to define a player.  Only a freshman, Ball came in and took control of a veteran team.  Without him, UCLA probably would not have made the tournament.  He's a team focused, pass oriented player.  He can be effective with and without the ball.  He certainly has areas to work on but so do all the other draftees. 

This performance will mean little for his draft prospects.  His body of work this season is impressive.  He'll need to perform well in the workouts but I expect he'll still go top 3.  If the Lakers keep their pick, I think he goes there.  Then they can move Russell to SG where he should be.   For us, I definitely prefer Fultz or Jackson. 
Title: Re: Saturday 3/25: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on March 25, 2017, 11:20:28 AM
UPDATE: Saturday March 25th


ELITE 8: NCAA Men's Tournament



6:09 TBS   Xavier/Zags   Trevon Bluiett(5)/Z Collins(13), Wms-Goss(5),Karnowski(24)



8:49 TBS  Ore/Kan   Bell(1), Dorsey(5), Brooks(24)/Jackson(11),Mason III(0), Mikhailiuk(10)
Title: Re: Friday 3/24: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: droopdog7 on March 25, 2017, 12:40:14 PM
Everyone compares Ball to Kidd but against Kentucky today he looked like Rondo to me

Yup.....I saw some nice passes.  Barely average Defense at best , low energy ,  he avoided contact , seemed to,avoid probing into the paint.   

Worst , Ball seemed to shrink when the pressure got turned up. 

He will be lucky to be taken 4 or 5 pick now . 

Big mouth father go home
It is amazing how people on here take a single performance and use it to define a player.  Only a freshman, Ball came in and took control of a veteran team.  Without him, UCLA probably would not have made the tournament.  He's a team focused, pass oriented player.  He can be effective with and without the ball.  He certainly has areas to work on but so do all the other draftees. 

This performance will mean little for his draft prospects.  His body of work this season is impressive.  He'll need to perform well in the workouts but I expect he'll still go top 3.  If the Lakers keep their pick, I think he goes there.  Then they can move Russell to SG where he should be.   For us, I definitely prefer Fultz or Jackson.
Yeah, I'm not overreacting to one game.  Kids still a talent.  My point is that he's nit the number 1 pick because he doesn't score.  Saying he's no better than number 2 isn't exactly killing the guy.
Title: Re: Friday 3/24: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: tazzmaniac on March 25, 2017, 12:55:02 PM
Everyone compares Ball to Kidd but against Kentucky today he looked like Rondo to me

Yup.....I saw some nice passes.  Barely average Defense at best , low energy ,  he avoided contact , seemed to,avoid probing into the paint.   

Worst , Ball seemed to shrink when the pressure got turned up. 

He will be lucky to be taken 4 or 5 pick now .  

Big mouth father go home
It is amazing how people on here take a single performance and use it to define a player.  Only a freshman, Ball came in and took control of a veteran team.  Without him, UCLA probably would not have made the tournament.  He's a team focused, pass oriented player.  He can be effective with and without the ball.  He certainly has areas to work on but so do all the other draftees. 

This performance will mean little for his draft prospects.  His body of work this season is impressive.  He'll need to perform well in the workouts but I expect he'll still go top 3.  If the Lakers keep their pick, I think he goes there.  Then they can move Russell to SG where he should be.   For us, I definitely prefer Fultz or Jackson.
Yeah, I'm not overreacting to one game.  Kids still a talent.  My point is that he's nit the number 1 pick because he doesn't score.  Saying he's no better than number 2 isn't exactly killing the guy.
I was responding to the comment above that he'd be lucky to go 4 or 5 now.  For us, I'd take Fultz and Jackson ahead of Ball.  The Lakers would probably take Ball first. 
Title: Re: Saturday 3/25: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: tazzmaniac on March 25, 2017, 12:59:32 PM
Don't think I've see it mentioned but Robert Williams decided to return to Arkansas for his sophomore season.  Really like him so hopefully it works out well for him but I think it is a bad idea to turn down lottery money.  He should have at least declare and gone through the process and then withdrawn at the end. 

Title: Re: Saturday 3/25: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: hwangjini_1 on March 25, 2017, 09:56:33 PM
well, this might be our last chance to see jackson in a college game. at half time oregon has 44 to kansas' 33.

jackson has ZERO points. both ball and jackson seem to be rolling over.  :P

UPDATE: now 52 to 37, oregon ahead still.
Title: Re: Saturday 3/25: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: Tr1boy on March 25, 2017, 10:08:07 PM
this out of nowhere player Jordan Bell .... impressive

6'10 pf... good rebounder... energy player... pretty explosive/strong... decent passer and improved shooter
Title: Re: Saturday 3/25: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: hwangjini_1 on March 25, 2017, 10:24:01 PM
oregon up by 12 with 8:21 left. jackson finally scoring. he is 2-6 and 0-1 from three point land. oh, and 0-2 with his FT.  :o
Title: Re: Saturday 3/25: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: tarheelsxxiii on March 25, 2017, 10:29:27 PM
Kinda sucks that one of UNC / UK will be bounced after tomorrow, while Gonzaga has to beat one of Florida / S. Carolina to make the Finals. 
Title: Re: Saturday 3/25: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: jpotter33 on March 25, 2017, 10:32:03 PM
Jackson's defense is seriously impressive. I question how good he can be offensively, but he certainly has the tools and mentality to be a superb NBA defender.
Title: Re: Saturday 3/25: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on March 25, 2017, 10:32:59 PM
this out of nowhere player Jordan Bell .... impressive

6'10 pf... good rebounder... energy player... pretty explosive/strong... decent passer and improved shooter

Been including Bell along with Brooks and Dorsey on the updates for this thread everytime Oregon has played since mid-December. Boucher, too.

If Boucher didn't have a season ending ACL, I would've picked Oregon to win it all in a couple of my brackets. He's 24-25 years old, so may not have been picked 2nd round, but he's a vet who paired real well with Bell.

Bell has really stepped up since Chris Boucher went down.
Title: Re: Saturday 3/25: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: Ogaju on March 25, 2017, 10:34:23 PM
this out of nowhere player Jordan Bell .... impressive

6'10 pf... good rebounder... energy player... pretty explosive/strong... decent passer and improved shooter

Is that the Draymond Green of this draft?
Title: Re: Saturday 3/25: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: hwangjini_1 on March 25, 2017, 10:34:45 PM
my man jackson now has 10 points and 9 rebounds....all of which may be too little, too late.  :-[

still 4:52 left, but kansas down by 11.
Title: Re: Saturday 3/25: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: SHAQATTACK on March 25, 2017, 10:38:08 PM
That Bell can play pretty well for a big.
Title: Re: Saturday 3/25: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: hwangjini_1 on March 25, 2017, 10:42:25 PM
kansas coming back!!! 66 to 60, kansas down by 6 with 2:49 left.

UPDATE: well, now oregon leads 72 to 60 with less than a minute to go. adios kansas and jackson.

is tatum the only top four pick left playing now?
Title: Re: Saturday 3/25: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: jpotter33 on March 25, 2017, 10:45:56 PM
Jackson actually reminds me a lot of Smart in the few games that I've watched him. He does a lot of the little things to help you win - plays excellent D, dishes the ball, rebounds, etc.
Title: Re: Saturday 3/25: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: SHAQATTACK on March 25, 2017, 10:46:31 PM
I still take Jackson over the Lavar family .



Title: Re: Saturday 3/25: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: liam on March 25, 2017, 10:49:45 PM
Jackson actually reminds me a lot of Smart in the few games that I've watched him. He does a lot of the little things to help you win - plays excellent D, dishes the ball, rebounds, etc.


He's like a bigger, better shooting Smart. Now that's scary!
Title: Re: Saturday 3/25: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: chilidawg on March 25, 2017, 10:51:21 PM
kansas coming back!!! 66 to 60, kansas down by 6 with 2:49 left.

UPDATE: well, now oregon leads 72 to 60 with less than a minute to go. adios kansas and jackson.

is tatum the only top four pick left playing now?

Tatum is long gone too.  Monk and Fox are the top prospects left.
Title: Re: Saturday 3/25: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: chilidawg on March 25, 2017, 10:53:15 PM
this out of nowhere player Jordan Bell .... impressive

6'10 pf... good rebounder... energy player... pretty explosive/strong... decent passer and improved shooter

Is that the Draymond Green of this draft?

He doesn't have anything like Green's offensive game, but he's a great defender and rebounder.  Needs to be able to at least hit a midrange jumper to make it at the next level.
Title: Re: Saturday 3/25: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: chilidawg on March 25, 2017, 10:54:06 PM
Where's Tyler Dorsey in your mock?  ;)
Title: Re: Saturday 3/25: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: footey on March 25, 2017, 10:56:09 PM
That Oregon team played great. Did not see that coming.

Jackson's early foul trouble really hurt Kansas rhythm.

Title: Re: Saturday 3/25: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on March 25, 2017, 11:04:56 PM
UPDATE: Sunday 3/26



NCAA Mens Tournament: Elite 8 2nd Day



2:20 CBS  S Carolina/FLA  Sindarius Thornwell(0),PJ Dozier(15)/D Robinson(1)


5:05 CBS   KY/UNC     Fox(0), Monk(5), Bam(3)/Jackson(44), Hicks (4), Tony
 Bradley(5)

i'm picking the Carolinas: SC and UNC.

Who does everybody else have? 



EDIT: TPs to all who posted tonight.

Not many more of the updates left.

NIT (Tue/Thur) next week and the NCAA Final Four/Championship Game next weekend.       
Title: Re: Saturday 3/25: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: hwangjini_1 on March 25, 2017, 11:17:22 PM
kansas coming back!!! 66 to 60, kansas down by 6 with 2:49 left.

UPDATE: well, now oregon leads 72 to 60 with less than a minute to go. adios kansas and jackson.

is tatum the only top four pick left playing now?

Tatum is long gone too.  Monk and Fox are the top prospects left.
thanks. i had forgotten about duke being bumped. tp for the correction.  ;D
Title: Re: Sunday 3/26: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: trickybilly on March 27, 2017, 03:44:46 AM
nbadraft.net has Sindarius Thornwell going at pick 38 to... The Boston Celtics.

Really think it would be nice to pick him up as a back-up 2 if/when we ship out Avery/Rozier.

Title: Re: Sunday 3/26: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: Celtics4ever on March 27, 2017, 06:29:25 AM
Quote
is tatum the only top four pick left playing now?

He went out even earlier and was gone about a week ago.

http://ftw.usatoday.com/2017/03/duke-basketball-south-carolina-march-madness-loss
Title: Re: Sunday 3/26: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: gouki88 on March 27, 2017, 10:14:54 AM
nbadraft.net has Sindarius Thornwell going at pick 38 to... The Boston Celtics.

Really think it would be nice to pick him up as a back-up 2 if/when we ship out Avery/Rozier.
I love this guys game to be honest. Lights out shooter and a 6'9" wingspan to boot.

It also has us taking Beachem and Boucher later in the 2nd round, which is interesting. I'd much rather take a flyer on someone like Alpha Kaba than Boucher, mainly due to age, or even a guy like Nigel Hayes.

However it is very unlikely that we either a) keep the picks or b) keep the guys we take.
Title: Re: Tuesday 3/28: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on March 28, 2017, 01:55:55 PM
UPDATE: Tuesday, March 28th


NIT SEMIS


7:00 ESPN     Georgia Tech     Ben Lammers (44)


Thursday Night, NIT Finals
Title: Re: Sunday 3/26: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on March 28, 2017, 01:58:32 PM
nbadraft.net has Sindarius Thornwell going at pick 38 to... The Boston Celtics.

Really think it would be nice to pick him up as a back-up 2 if/when we ship out Avery/Rozier.
I love this guys game to be honest. Lights out shooter and a 6'9" wingspan to boot.

It also has us taking Beachem and Boucher later in the 2nd round, which is interesting. I'd much rather take a flyer on someone like Alpha Kaba than Boucher, mainly due to age, or even a guy like Nigel Hayes.

However it is very unlikely that we either a) keep the picks or b) keep the guys we take.

TP, gouki.

Thornwell came to my attention after a 44/22 game vs "Bama in conference play, and after that game I started to include him in this thread's updates.

Granted, it was a quadruple OT game, but still very impressive stats. Kid's as tough as nails and gets to the line A TON!!
Title: Re: Sunday 3/26: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: chilidawg on March 28, 2017, 07:28:03 PM
nbadraft.net has Sindarius Thornwell going at pick 38 to... The Boston Celtics.

Really think it would be nice to pick him up as a back-up 2 if/when we ship out Avery/Rozier.
I love this guys game to be honest. Lights out shooter and a 6'9" wingspan to boot.

It also has us taking Beachem and Boucher later in the 2nd round, which is interesting. I'd much rather take a flyer on someone like Alpha Kaba than Boucher, mainly due to age, or even a guy like Nigel Hayes.

However it is very unlikely that we either a) keep the picks or b) keep the guys we take.

Second round mocks are far more useless than even first round ones.  At this stage, they're not taking team needs into account (and won't usually until after the lottery).  They're useful mostly as a general idea of where a guy might go, e.g. late in the second round.

That said, I think Thornwell looks like a good pickup with our Minny 2nd, although I'd guess he's going to go higher.  Lots of other potential good picks in that range; Bell, Bryant, Jeanne, and Motley look good to me.

Hopefully we'll restock with Euro stashes with the later picks.
Title: Re: Saturday 4/1: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on March 31, 2017, 06:38:41 PM
UPDATE:  Saturday, April 1st 2017


FINAL FOUR


6:09 CBS      SC/Zags       Thornwell(0), Dozier(15)/Collins(13), Wms-Goss (5),Karnowski(24)


8:49 CBS    ORE/UNC       Bell(1), Dorsey(5), Brooks (24)/Jackson(44),Hicks(4),Bradley(5)     
Title: Re: Monday 4/3: Draft prospects playing on TV today (ongoing) 2017 Draft
Post by: csfansince60s on April 03, 2017, 11:55:36 AM
UPDATE: Monday 4/3


National Championsip Game




9:20 CBS    Zags/UNC  Collins(13), Wms-Goss (5),Karnowski(24)/Jackson(44),Hicks(4),Bradley(5)


Last update of the year. Great Year.


Over 30,000 views....hope everyone enjoyed the ride. It has been fun. We'll do it AGAIN next year.