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Title: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: cbd2016 on August 01, 2016, 12:43:02 PM
carry on back and forth discussion here please.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Evantime34 on August 01, 2016, 12:44:32 PM
If anyone is interested in the 11th pick, please pm me in the next 6 minutes.

Also TP to the OP for creating a thread.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on August 01, 2016, 12:48:25 PM
I want to move the discussion back to James Harden.

I guess it is correct that franchise players are a premium, but I think there are going to be players available at 1.20 who may not be able to score 27 a game, but can do 20. And having a 2nd rounder will help that player get some help.

Of course this is just my opinion, but my experience in this Draft tells me that losing a 2nd is huge. A 2nd rounder normally are still borderline All-Star players, and that's something I think you want to be in the fray with to get some.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: BleedGreen1989 on August 01, 2016, 12:49:05 PM
I am not participating so I will merely be hanging out to critique your selections.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on August 01, 2016, 12:50:13 PM
But this is just me, I'd take Dray over Harden. I have Green higher by three spots over James Harden. I understand that Harden is a scoring machine, but I'd rather have Green's versatility and all around play.

Uh, James Harden's fairly versatile himself: 6.1 rebounds, 7.5 assists.

Offensively he is. But the assists numbers and rebounding can be covered by Draymond, with an added defensive and position versatility. Dray may not score 27 a game, but I'd rather have him and find a scorer than have Harden and find a glue guy who's as good as Draymond, because it will be very difficult to do compare to getting scorers.

Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: nickagneta on August 01, 2016, 12:55:57 PM
Draymond's all around game, position versatility, very good scoring, and excellent defense combined that he knows what it takes to win a title, couldn't be passed up by me. Out of the top 10 players or so oy Lebron, Steph, Kawhi and Draymond know what it takes to win it all. I preferred Green over Kawhi.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: BleedGreen1989 on August 01, 2016, 12:58:38 PM
But this is just me, I'd take Dray over Harden. I have Green higher by three spots over James Harden. I understand that Harden is a scoring machine, but I'd rather have Green's versatility and all around play.

Uh, James Harden's fairly versatile himself: 6.1 rebounds, 7.5 assists.

Offensively he is. But the assists numbers and rebounding can be covered by Draymond, with an added defensive and position versatility. Dray may not score 27 a game, but I'd rather have him and find a scorer than have Harden and find a glue guy who's as good as Draymond, because it will be very difficult to do compare to getting scorers.

I think you're underestimsting how hard it is to find scorers who can legitimately be #1 options on good teams. Lots of guys score 20 or more a game. Ironically, 20 guys to be exact. However, a large group of them play for pretty medicore teams.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on August 01, 2016, 12:58:48 PM
I may have just made the first controversial pick of the Draft.

I love that I got KAT though. Not a lot of Centers today can do what he does.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on August 01, 2016, 12:59:32 PM
But this is just me, I'd take Dray over Harden. I have Green higher by three spots over James Harden. I understand that Harden is a scoring machine, but I'd rather have Green's versatility and all around play.

Uh, James Harden's fairly versatile himself: 6.1 rebounds, 7.5 assists.

Offensively he is. But the assists numbers and rebounding can be covered by Draymond, with an added defensive and position versatility. Dray may not score 27 a game, but I'd rather have him and find a scorer than have Harden and find a glue guy who's as good as Draymond, because it will be very difficult to do compare to getting scorers.

I think you're underestimsting how hard it is to find scorers who can legitimately be #1 options on good teams. Lots of guys score 20 or more a game. Ironically, 20 guys to be exact. However, a large group of them play for pretty medicore teams.

True, but Dray can make it easy for them as he can playmaker himself.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: snively on August 01, 2016, 12:59:46 PM
But this is just me, I'd take Dray over Harden. I have Green higher by three spots over James Harden. I understand that Harden is a scoring machine, but I'd rather have Green's versatility and all around play.

Uh, James Harden's fairly versatile himself: 6.1 rebounds, 7.5 assists.

Offensively he is. But the assists numbers and rebounding can be covered by Draymond, with an added defensive and position versatility. Dray may not score 27 a game, but I'd rather have him and find a scorer than have Harden and find a glue guy who's as good as Draymond, because it will be very difficult to do compare to getting scorers.



It'll be interesting. With the modified snake, I think it will be hard to surround a high picked Draymond with enough scoring talent to build a championship caliber offense.

If CB gms are like the real ones, PPG is going to fly off the board pretty quick
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: wdleehi on August 01, 2016, 01:00:40 PM
I may have just made the first controversial pick of the Draft.

I love that I got KAT though. Not a lot of Centers today can do what he does.

He was on my list of two at that point.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: snively on August 01, 2016, 01:01:17 PM
But this is just me, I'd take Dray over Harden. I have Green higher by three spots over James Harden. I understand that Harden is a scoring machine, but I'd rather have Green's versatility and all around play.

Uh, James Harden's fairly versatile himself: 6.1 rebounds, 7.5 assists.

Offensively he is. But the assists numbers and rebounding can be covered by Draymond, with an added defensive and position versatility. Dray may not score 27 a game, but I'd rather have him and find a scorer than have Harden and find a glue guy who's as good as Draymond, because it will be very difficult to do compare to getting scorers.



I'd also add that I think Dray needs the right set-up to playmake at a high volume. He's not a primary creator. Needs others to create initial disruption of the D.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: RJ87 on August 01, 2016, 01:02:35 PM
I may have just made the first controversial pick of the Draft.

I love that I got KAT though. Not a lot of Centers today can do what he does.

I seriously considered KAT at #9, but I thought Boogie was a safer choice.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Celtic Fan Forever on August 01, 2016, 01:04:12 PM
Well I've moved all over the place today, but I'm happy to get Paul George at 11 and reunite him with the only coach he's ever had in Frank Vogel.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: The Walker Wiggle on August 01, 2016, 01:04:22 PM
I may have just made the first controversial pick of the Draft.

I love that I got KAT though. Not a lot of Centers today can do what he does.

If it's a reach, it's not by much. Even if he's not top 12, he still might be the best center in the league as soon as next season.

Draymond at 5 is the draft's first controversial pick.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Evantime34 on August 01, 2016, 01:04:33 PM
I may have just made the first controversial pick of the Draft.

I love that I got KAT though. Not a lot of Centers today can do what he does.
I was debating between Paul George, and KAT at 11. Couldn't decide, so I wanted to move back.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Who on August 01, 2016, 01:04:48 PM
Before the draft, I thought Draymond Green would be one of the most fun players to build a team around. Such a team player. Does all the things that make life easier for everyone around him. Great opportunity to build a fun team that plays tough defense and shares the ball.

I think OKC will be one of the top teams in this CB League.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Celtic Fan Forever on August 01, 2016, 01:06:05 PM
Thoughts on the Paul George selection? I actually really wanted him at 8.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: The Walker Wiggle on August 01, 2016, 01:07:32 PM
I think OKC will be one of the top teams in this CB League.

After one pick? I may not agree, but I still like that you're giving Dray the Michael Jordan treatment.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Evantime34 on August 01, 2016, 01:07:57 PM
Thoughts on the Paul George selection? I actually really wanted him at 8.
He's great, can defend, shoot the heck out of the ball and create his own shot.

Last year their offense struggled because he had to create everything for them. This year I think playing at an uptempo pace with faster players will set him to score much more easily.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on August 01, 2016, 01:10:39 PM
Thoughts on the Paul George selection? I actually really wanted him at 8.

Its great value at #11 to get not only a franchise player, but a potential LeBron "stopper".

Good value pick.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: The Walker Wiggle on August 01, 2016, 01:11:53 PM
I may have just made the first controversial pick of the Draft.

I love that I got KAT though. Not a lot of Centers today can do what he does.

I seriously considered KAT at #9, but I thought Boogie was a safer choice.

Agree. I would've had a hard time passing over Cousins for Towns. When he's dialed in, he's the tougher cover. But it's an interesting question. Demarcus will also waste a lot more possessions.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on August 01, 2016, 01:12:32 PM
I love that people are digging the KAT pick.

There's someone there on the top of my board before him, but I could not resist him being a Center, a position where there's not a lot of talent that can be effective in both ends of the floor.

Speaking of which. I wonder where that guy I debated taking at #12 ends up. He's dropping mightily.

Edit: He got picked. I debated between Dame or KAT.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Who on August 01, 2016, 01:13:13 PM
I think OKC will be one of the top teams in this CB League.

After one pick? I may not agree, but I still like that you're giving Dray the Michael Jordan treatment.

I was bored a week or two ago and excited for this CB draft so I did a couple of mocks for fun of 3-4 rounds each time and every time Draymond Green's team was one of the top teams.

Draymond Green was just a very easy player to put other players alongside and have things work at a high level. To build a strong defensive team. To build a good passing team. To build a team that fits together.

That plus Nick being a good drafter is why I would bet on OKC being one of the top teams.

Some other players were more talented but I found were more difficult to build around.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: The Walker Wiggle on August 01, 2016, 01:14:28 PM
Thoughts on the Paul George selection? I actually really wanted him at 8.

Its great value at #11 to get not only a franchise player, but a potential LeBron "stopper".

Good value pick.

I rank him a step below "franchise." That 42.5% FG% and falling is tough. Still it's a great get.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Celtic Fan Forever on August 01, 2016, 01:14:40 PM
I love that people are digging the KAT pick.

There's someone there on the top of my board before him, but I could not resist him being a Center, a position where there's not a lot of talent that can be effective in both ends of the floor.

Speaking of which. I wonder where that guy I debated taking at #12 ends up. He's dropping mightily.


I love KAT, he's gonna be a top 5 player in the next few years. I considered him back when I had the 8th pick, but didn't feel like going the TOFT route. Still though, heck of a guy to build a team around.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: DinoGanga on August 01, 2016, 01:16:07 PM
Thoughts on the Paul George selection? I actually really wanted him at 8.

Its great value at #11 to get not only a franchise player, but a potential LeBron "stopper".

Good value pick.

No one stops LeBron!  8)
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on August 01, 2016, 01:16:51 PM
The Sacramento Kings select Damian Lillard

Lillard and Kawhi is a sick duo that compliment each other perfectly. I'm interested to see the pieces you put around them

Sort of does, but here's my little concern.

The next SacTo is the 4th round, right? There are some good depth pieces there, but will it be good enough to compliment these two?
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on August 01, 2016, 01:17:51 PM
Thoughts on the Paul George selection? I actually really wanted him at 8.

Its great value at #11 to get not only a franchise player, but a potential LeBron "stopper".

Good value pick.

No one stops LeBron!  8)

Was my comment tantamount to treason in LeBron's kingdom?

Mercy, your Highness.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: The Walker Wiggle on August 01, 2016, 01:18:02 PM
Edit: He got picked. I debated between Dame or KAT.

Lillard's probably not even the best PG available, but I loved, LOVED, how he stepped into the leadership role in Portland this past season. One of those rare guys that welcomes the pressures of being a cornerstone, along with the recognition and the paycheck.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: DinoGanga on August 01, 2016, 01:20:12 PM
Thoughts on the Paul George selection? I actually really wanted him at 8.

Its great value at #11 to get not only a franchise player, but a potential LeBron "stopper".

Good value pick.

No one stops LeBron!  8)

Was my comment tantamount to treason in LeBron's kingdom?

Mercy, your Highness.


You are forgiven through the mighty grace of King LeBron and his mighty Hairline
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: snively on August 01, 2016, 01:21:42 PM
Edit: He got picked. I debated between Dame or KAT.

Lillard's probably not even the best PG available, but I loved, LOVED, how he stepped into the leadership role in Portland this past season. One of those rare guys that welcomes the pressures of being a cornerstone, along with the recognition and the paycheck.

Having a high-volume/explosive scorer next to Kawhi makes the rest of the roster construction easier too (though there are some names that would have tempted me more @ #14).
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on August 01, 2016, 01:22:06 PM
I love that people are digging the KAT pick.

There's someone there on the top of my board before him, but I could not resist him being a Center, a position where there's not a lot of talent that can be effective in both ends of the floor.

Speaking of which. I wonder where that guy I debated taking at #12 ends up. He's dropping mightily.


I love KAT, he's gonna be a top 5 player in the next few years. I considered him back when I had the 8th pick, but didn't feel like going the TOFT route. Still though, heck of a guy to build a team around.

Thats a good thing about KAT. He's a TOTF pick, yet his first season is great enough to consider him a franchise player.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Celtic Fan Forever on August 01, 2016, 01:27:11 PM
Thoughts on the Paul George selection? I actually really wanted him at 8.

Its great value at #11 to get not only a franchise player, but a potential LeBron "stopper".

Good value pick.

No one stops LeBron!  8)

(http://cache.boston.com/resize/bonzai-fba/Globe_Photo/2008/06/30/1214881296_2085/300h.jpg)

Just because I couldn't use any current guys, but man do I miss Posey.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Gainesville Celtic on August 01, 2016, 01:31:33 PM
carry on back and forth discussion here please.

Just FYI, i'm not gonna monitor this thread much at all..... It's up to y'all to keep things ubuntu.

PLEASE BE COOL
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on August 01, 2016, 01:55:44 PM
I'm seriously debating putting Karl Towns at PF?

I'd be selfish and ask anyone if you think that's a good idea...
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: green_bballers13 on August 01, 2016, 02:01:28 PM
I may have just made the first controversial pick of the Draft.

I love that I got KAT though. Not a lot of Centers today can do what he does.

I thought Draymond Green was the first controversial pick. I'm not saying I don't think he's really good, I just don't think he's the 5th best player in the NBA. I would have pulled the trigger on Westbrook well before Green.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: wdleehi on August 01, 2016, 02:01:51 PM
I'm seriously debating putting Karl Towns at PF?

I'd be selfish and ask anyone if you think that's a good idea...


Really depends on who is the best big man when you draft your next big man.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: max215 on August 01, 2016, 02:09:17 PM
I'm seriously debating putting Karl Towns at PF?

I'd be selfish and ask anyone if you think that's a good idea...

I think it's a waste of his talent. His shooting at the center makes him special. Great PF vs. Special C.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Who on August 01, 2016, 02:11:31 PM
I'm seriously debating putting Karl Towns at PF?

I'd be selfish and ask anyone if you think that's a good idea...

It's doable. Towns is skilled enough to play the PF offensively and mobile enough to play PFs on defense.

.... but I like him more at center.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on August 01, 2016, 02:13:37 PM
I'm seriously debating putting Karl Towns at PF?

I'd be selfish and ask anyone if you think that's a good idea...


Really depends on who is the best big man when you draft your next big man.

I just looked at his defensive highlights, and he can cover guards good enough when switched. Which tells me he maybe quick enough to play PF.

Very interesting scenario I got here.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on August 01, 2016, 02:15:36 PM
I'm seriously debating putting Karl Towns at PF?

I'd be selfish and ask anyone if you think that's a good idea...

It's doable. Towns is skilled enough to play the PF offensively and mobile enough to play PFs on defense.

.... but I like him more at center.

My thing is I don't want him defending very physical Centers that can draw a ton of fouls on him, or tax him too much physically by banging.

Not that he can't handle it, but if it means reducing his fouls and physical punishment, I might consider this depending on who's left on the board.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: snively on August 01, 2016, 02:20:52 PM
I'm seriously debating putting Karl Towns at PF?

I'd be selfish and ask anyone if you think that's a good idea...

It's doable. Towns is skilled enough to play the PF offensively and mobile enough to play PFs on defense.

.... but I like him more at center.

My thing is I don't want him defending very physical Centers that can draw a ton of fouls on him, or tax him too much physically by banging.

Not that he can't handle it, but if it means reducing his fouls and physical punishment, I might consider this depending on who's left on the board.

According to BB-Ref, he played 98% of his minutes at C last year and fouls/punishment were not an issue (only 3.4 fouls per 36 and he played a complete season at 32 mpg).

Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on August 01, 2016, 02:25:21 PM
I'm seriously debating putting Karl Towns at PF?

I'd be selfish and ask anyone if you think that's a good idea...

It's doable. Towns is skilled enough to play the PF offensively and mobile enough to play PFs on defense.

.... but I like him more at center.

My thing is I don't want him defending very physical Centers that can draw a ton of fouls on him, or tax him too much physically by banging.

Not that he can't handle it, but if it means reducing his fouls and physical punishment, I might consider this depending on who's left on the board.

According to BB-Ref, he played 98% of his minutes at C last year and fouls/punishment were not an issue (only 3.4 fouls per 36 and he played a complete season at 32 mpg).

Thank you, that's good to know that fouls aren't a problem. Please accept my TP, Snively. 

I'm still intrigued by this idea, though. Really am...
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Gainesville Celtic on August 01, 2016, 02:30:50 PM
Lunch is over. DRAFT REOPENED.

KG's knee can make his pick any time...  pick is due at 2:39:59
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: RJ87 on August 01, 2016, 02:41:33 PM
Whoa. Horford at #16.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: snively on August 01, 2016, 02:42:30 PM
Horford this early a little bit of a surprise to me - would have had him in the early 20s. Maybe the last playoffs has biased me too much against him.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: max215 on August 01, 2016, 02:42:43 PM
Whoa. Horford at #16.

It is the Celtics Blog Draft.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: max215 on August 01, 2016, 02:43:15 PM
Horford this early a little bit of a surprise to me - would have had him in the early 20s. Maybe the last playoffs has biased me too much against him.

I thought he'd be there for me at #30 if I was lucky.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: KGs Knee on August 01, 2016, 02:44:40 PM
Whoa. Horford at #16.

I had him ranked #13 on my board.

I'll admit, though, my board is based purely on advanced statistical information.  I took several metrics from various sources and weighted them, and then combined into a final "score".  I'm picking strictly based on that board.

We'll see what happens.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on August 01, 2016, 02:47:44 PM
Whoa. Horford at #16.

Yep. I think that's a big reach.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Celtic Fan Forever on August 01, 2016, 02:48:20 PM
Whoa. Horford at #16.

Yep. I think that's a big reach.

Agreed, was looking at him as a high second rounder or very late first
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: RJ87 on August 01, 2016, 02:49:41 PM
Whoa. Horford at #16.

It is the Celtics Blog Draft.

Touche.

Definitely had him a 2nd round guy.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: The Walker Wiggle on August 01, 2016, 02:50:37 PM
Whoa. Horford at #16.

Yep. I think that's a big reach.

He wouldn't have gotten past me. He's an All-Star at either the 4 or 5. I don't see how guys can tout Draymond as top 5 and not acknowledge Horford top 20.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: KGs Knee on August 01, 2016, 02:50:52 PM
But even from a subjective standpoint, Horford ain't no 2nd rd pick.

That's crazy pants talk.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: RJ87 on August 01, 2016, 02:52:14 PM
Whoa. Horford at #16.

Yep. I think that's a big reach.

He wouldn't have gotten past me. He's an All-Star at either the 4 or 5. I don't see how guys can tout Draymond as top 5 and not acknowledge Horford top 20.

You guys? I never said Draymond was Top 5....
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Denis998 on August 01, 2016, 02:52:25 PM
League sources say that The Notorious S.V.G. is getting excited for his upcoming pick.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on August 01, 2016, 02:54:54 PM
But even from a subjective standpoint, Horford ain't no 2nd rd pick.

That's crazy pants talk.

No, definitely not. But with the talent available, it's not hard to see why it's looking like a reach.

BTW, speaking of talent available, someone is slipping. 18th pick in and that guy is still available? Good value pick to whoever picks him.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: RJ87 on August 01, 2016, 02:57:37 PM
But even from a subjective standpoint, Horford ain't no 2nd rd pick.

That's crazy pants talk.

No, definitely not. But with the talent available, it's not hard to see why it's looking like a reach.

BTW, speaking of talent available, someone is slipping. 18th pick in and that guy is still available? Good value pick to whoever picks him.

I think I know how you're talking about. He was on my short list with KAT - I didn't think Cousins would be around at #9.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: snively on August 01, 2016, 03:00:35 PM
Whoa. Horford at #16.

Yep. I think that's a big reach.

He wouldn't have gotten past me. He's an All-Star at either the 4 or 5. I don't see how guys can tout Draymond as top 5 and not acknowledge Horford top 20.

Al's decline on the boards/disembowelment at the hands of TT the last two years have soured me on him a bit.

He's still an excellent player, but he has a vulnerability that's hard to work around.

I'd want to pair him with a major glass-eater/physical presence but at the same time I wouldn't want to push him to the 4 (where he's a less impactful player everywhere but the glass, IMHO).
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: riah32 on August 01, 2016, 03:03:43 PM
No thoughts on my selection of Butler?
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Celtic Fan Forever on August 01, 2016, 03:06:12 PM
No thoughts on my selection of Butler?

I like it, solid value. One of the 2 guys I was looking to trade up for.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: KGs Knee on August 01, 2016, 03:07:07 PM
Whoa. Horford at #16.

Yep. I think that's a big reach.

He wouldn't have gotten past me. He's an All-Star at either the 4 or 5. I don't see how guys can tout Draymond as top 5 and not acknowledge Horford top 20.

Al's decline on the boards/disembowelment at the hands of TT the last two years have soured me on him a bit.

He's still an excellent player, but he has a vulnerability that's hard to work around.

I'd want to pair him with a major glass-eater/physical presence but at the same time I wouldn't want to push him to the 4 (where he's a less impactful player everywhere but the glass, IMHO).

I still like him at lot at PF. I think his passing from the high post is on the level of the Gasol's. The stats back it up.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: KGs Knee on August 01, 2016, 03:07:38 PM
No thoughts on my selection of Butler?

He was rated higher on my board than his draft selection.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: snively on August 01, 2016, 03:07:43 PM
No thoughts on my selection of Butler?

Excellent 2-way player and good closer. My nitpick is he's a better #2 guy than a #1 and you had a pretty good #1 option on the board there.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Evantime34 on August 01, 2016, 03:08:47 PM
Would have loved to get Blake or Jimmy but I'm happy to select Klay Thompson.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Denis998 on August 01, 2016, 03:09:02 PM
Blake Griffin is now a Bad Boy of Detroit.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: max215 on August 01, 2016, 03:10:02 PM
Anyone looking to move a second round pick?
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Evantime34 on August 01, 2016, 03:10:09 PM
Blake Griffin is now a Bad Boy of Detroit.
He was number one on board, really wish you had went in another direction
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: snively on August 01, 2016, 03:10:29 PM
Blake Griffin at #19 my favorite value pick so far. A go-to guy with a chance to put another top 40 talent next to him in the 2nd round.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Celtic Fan Forever on August 01, 2016, 03:11:47 PM
This draft shows you just how insanely ridiculous the Warriors top 4 is in real life. 3 of them in the top 5 and the 4th at the end of the top 20, wow. Not saying I necessarily agree with Draymond at 5 but still wow.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Denis998 on August 01, 2016, 03:12:41 PM
Blake Griffin is now a Bad Boy of Detroit.
He was number one on board, really wish you had went in another direction
Klay was a close 2nd on my list. Both dropped quite a bit.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: RJ87 on August 01, 2016, 03:14:21 PM
Blake Griffin is now a Bad Boy of Detroit.
He was number one on board, really wish you had went in another direction
Klay was a close 2nd on my list. Both dropped quite a bit.

Blake was #1 on my board originally - I thought people may worry about his injury but he could have a monster bounce back season.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: wdleehi on August 01, 2016, 03:18:44 PM
Blake Griffin is now a Bad Boy of Detroit.
He was number one on board, really wish you had went in another direction
Klay was a close 2nd on my list. Both dropped quite a bit.

Blake was #1 on my board originally - I thought people may worry about his injury but he could have a monster bounce back season.

I have Blake high (top 10) but really didn't want to build another team around him.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on August 01, 2016, 03:20:25 PM
Thought.

Blake is an awesome value pick at that spot. Broderline franchise player. Top 15 for sure.

I'm interested in how Memphis will build around Klay. Great two way player, and he has shown on spurts that he can be the guy.

The Jimmy Butler pick is decent to me. Its always great to have a two way player, but I rated Kyle Lowry ahead of him.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: max215 on August 01, 2016, 03:21:02 PM
Ughhh. I wanted Point Giannis.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on August 01, 2016, 03:21:52 PM
Still think one guy is dropping drastically. I think this guy is a top 15 talent and he's still available.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: wdleehi on August 01, 2016, 03:22:14 PM
Thought.

Blake is an awesome value pick at that spot. Broderline franchise player. Top 15 for sure.

I'm interested in how Memphis will build around Klay. Great two way player, and he has shown on spurts that he can be the guy.

The Jimmy Butler pick is decent to me. Its always great to have a two way player, but I rated Kyle Lowry ahead of him.
 

I think Lowry is a reach here considering who is still available.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on August 01, 2016, 03:23:52 PM
Thought.

Blake is an awesome value pick at that spot. Broderline franchise player. Top 15 for sure.

I'm interested in how Memphis will build around Klay. Great two way player, and he has shown on spurts that he can be the guy.

The Jimmy Butler pick is decent to me. Its always great to have a two way player, but I rated Kyle Lowry ahead of him.
 

I think Lowry is a reach here considering who is still available.

Oh yes, I agree.

I just rated Lowry Higher than Jimmy Butler.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on August 01, 2016, 03:24:29 PM
Ughhh. I wanted Point Giannis.

Welcome to the CB Draft, my friend. This may happen a lot more.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: RJ87 on August 01, 2016, 03:24:41 PM
Still think one guy is dropping drastically. I think this guy is a top 15 talent and he's still available.

I'm curious to know who you're talking about.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: wdleehi on August 01, 2016, 03:25:24 PM
Thought.

Blake is an awesome value pick at that spot. Broderline franchise player. Top 15 for sure.

I'm interested in how Memphis will build around Klay. Great two way player, and he has shown on spurts that he can be the guy.

The Jimmy Butler pick is decent to me. Its always great to have a two way player, but I rated Kyle Lowry ahead of him.
 

I think Lowry is a reach here considering who is still available.

Oh yes, I agree.

I just rated Lowery Higher than Jimmy Butler.

I think Butler is a good value here.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: wdleehi on August 01, 2016, 03:26:20 PM
Still think one guy is dropping drastically. I think this guy is a top 15 talent and he's still available.

I'm curious to know who you're talking about.


Number 1 rule of drafts, don't mention those who are not picked.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: The Walker Wiggle on August 01, 2016, 03:27:55 PM
Ughhh. I wanted Point Giannis.

Welcome to the CB Draft, my friend. This may happen a lot more.

(http://i.imgur.com/yH0qW0s.gif)

GM THE Walker "I can spell Antetokounmpo" Wiggle
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on August 01, 2016, 03:28:43 PM
John Wall finally got picked.

I thought he's a top 15 talent. Dropped to 22. Good pickup by NOP.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on August 01, 2016, 03:31:07 PM
Still think one guy is dropping drastically. I think this guy is a top 15 talent and he's still available.

I'm curious to know who you're talking about.

He got picked so I can mention him now.

John Wall.

Its crazy that he lasted at 22. Surely he should have been top 15.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: RJ87 on August 01, 2016, 03:31:37 PM
Still think one guy is dropping drastically. I think this guy is a top 15 talent and he's still available.

I'm curious to know who you're talking about.


Number 1 rule of drafts, don't mention those who are not picked.

I know, just stating my curiosity  :)
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Denis998 on August 01, 2016, 03:34:55 PM
Draft is going to get quite interesting here.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: The Walker Wiggle on August 01, 2016, 03:43:48 PM
John Wall finally got picked.

I thought he's a top 15 talent. Dropped to 22. Good pickup by NOP.

I don't think it was such an unpredictable fall though. The point guard position is so deep right now. Wall's arguably better than Lowry and Lillard, likely better than Irving, but it's a rough argument with several other All Star-calibre talents yet to be drafted.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: The Walker Wiggle on August 01, 2016, 03:45:01 PM
On the topic of All-Stars. This is Giannis's year. Count on it.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: RJ87 on August 01, 2016, 03:45:24 PM
Looking to move up in the 2nd round, if anyone wants to talk.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: green_bballers13 on August 01, 2016, 03:59:18 PM
Looking to move 5.29. I'd trade it with a later pick for two picks after 5.29.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: max215 on August 01, 2016, 04:12:38 PM
DeAndre gone too :(
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: wdleehi on August 01, 2016, 04:13:44 PM
The first position run of the draft looks to be a center run.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: KGs Knee on August 01, 2016, 04:20:08 PM
The first position run of the draft looks to be a center run.

It makes sense.  The last few picks have been auto-picks, and centers still always rate highly in advanced metrics.  Both DeAndre and Whiteside were very, very high on my board.

My board is basically a computation of: VORP + WS + BPM + RPM + WS/48 + PIE + PER (weighted by category)

I did make a few adjustments for players that should have been higher but weren't because of games missed (injury).  Blake I had to adjust up the most (some 50+ spots).  Put him at #15.

I'm going to be interested to see how far off advanced stats are versus subjective opinions.  Kind of an experiment, if anything.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Evantime34 on August 01, 2016, 04:22:33 PM
The first position run of the draft looks to be a center run.

It makes sense.  The last few picks have been auto-picks, and centers still always rate highly in advanced metrics.  Both DeAndre and Whiteside were very, very high on my board.

My board is basically a computation of: VORP + WS + BPM + RPM + WS/48 + PIE + PER (weighted by category)

I did make a few adjustments for players that should have been higher but weren't because of games missed (injury).  Blake I had to adjust up the most (some 50+ spots).  Put him at #15.

I'm going to be interested to see how far off advanced stats are versus subjective opinions.  Kind of an experiment, if anything.
I'm using most of those metrics for reference then making my own order. Your way sounds a lot more scientific.

I also had a run on centers on my board (in fact I called a run on centers to end the 1st/start the 2nd in a slack convo with AirBelinelli)
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: wdleehi on August 01, 2016, 04:24:38 PM
Any thoughts on teaming up Irving and Drummond?   
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: max215 on August 01, 2016, 04:24:50 PM
Noooooooooooooooooo. The auto picks are all guys I want.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Who on August 01, 2016, 04:27:24 PM
Noooooooooooooooooo. The auto picks are all guys I want.
Bad luck to miss out on Millsap. He dropped pretty far.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Evantime34 on August 01, 2016, 04:27:39 PM
Any thoughts on teaming up Irving and Drummond?
Like teaming up Jackson and Drummond so you know they will fit together. Except Iriving is a lot better than Jackson.

That would cause a big problem in the pick and roll.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: snively on August 01, 2016, 04:30:05 PM
There go the bigs
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: The Walker Wiggle on August 01, 2016, 04:31:18 PM
I have no idea how I'd rank Jordan, Drummond, and Whiteside?
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: snively on August 01, 2016, 04:32:44 PM
Any thoughts on teaming up Irving and Drummond?   

Need someone who misses more shots to pair with Drummond ;)
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: The Walker Wiggle on August 01, 2016, 04:35:44 PM
Any thoughts on teaming up Irving and Drummond?
Like teaming up SOME GUY OFF THE STREET and Drummond so you know they will fit together. Except Iriving is a lot better than SOME GUY OFF THE STREET.

That would cause a big problem in the pick and roll.

(http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view4/20131219/4928545/antetokounmpo-o.gif)
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: snively on August 01, 2016, 04:36:39 PM
I have no idea how I'd rank Jordan, Drummond, and Whiteside?

That order seems right to me. Jordan the most proven defender. Drummond quicker and better defensively than Whiteside.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on August 01, 2016, 04:37:57 PM
So much for me putting KAT at PF.

Personally, I'm not even sure he's going to last, but I thought a Hassan Whiteside - Karl Anthony Towns duo would be a beast defensively.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: RJ87 on August 01, 2016, 05:14:03 PM
So much for me putting KAT at PF.

Personally, I'm not even sure he's going to last, but I thought a Hassan Whiteside - Karl Anthony Towns duo would be a beast defensively.

Whiteside scares me a little, just seems poised to regress after he got his payday.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Denis998 on August 01, 2016, 05:18:40 PM
Forming a draft list for round 2 is proving to be challenging.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Celtic Fan Forever on August 01, 2016, 05:26:54 PM
Forming a draft list for round 2 is proving to be challenging.

Yup. A couple of guys have definitely slipped though. I'm curious to see how it plays out before my pick at 11.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Denis998 on August 01, 2016, 05:30:31 PM
Forming a draft list for round 2 is proving to be challenging.

Yup. A couple of guys have definitely slipped though. I'm curious to see how it plays out before my pick at 11.
likewise at 12. Already got a top 12 but its challenging to rank them, hopefully some surprise picks by other teams make my life a bit easier.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on August 01, 2016, 06:46:37 PM
Forming a draft list for round 2 is proving to be challenging.

Yup. A couple of guys have definitely slipped though. I'm curious to see how it plays out before my pick at 11.
likewise at 12. Already got a top 12 but its challenging to rank them, hopefully some surprise picks by other teams make my life a bit easier.

I need to make a list of 20. And already I'm pulling hairs.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Rondo2287 on August 01, 2016, 08:15:17 PM
I got 2.16, looking to move up.  Anybody looking to move back hit me up.  You will be the first pick after lunch break which is a nice perk
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: wdleehi on August 01, 2016, 08:30:38 PM
Looks like I am just sitting out the next round.   Will be much to expensive for me to jump back up to the 2nd round. 
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Rondo2287 on August 01, 2016, 08:34:23 PM
Looks like I am just sitting out the next round.   Will be much to expensive for me to jump back up to the 2nd round.

Lotta good talent still out there
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: RJ87 on August 01, 2016, 08:37:08 PM
Looks like I am just sitting out the next round.   Will be much to expensive for me to jump back up to the 2nd round.

Can't even get any traction in trade talks to move up from 24. Some GM's tightening up.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Celts Fan 508 on August 01, 2016, 09:57:57 PM
Round 2 pick 2 listening to offers, dont want to drop back too far (past 14)
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: max215 on August 01, 2016, 10:10:08 PM
Thoughts on the trade?
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Rondo2287 on August 01, 2016, 10:26:00 PM
So as not to hijack the draft thread I am psyched about Melo, ideally he will see time at the 3 and at the 4 with LMA as the center in a small ball lineup
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Celtic Fan Forever on August 01, 2016, 10:27:53 PM
So as not to hijack the draft thread I am psyched about Melo, ideally he will see time at the 3 and at the 4 with LMA as the center in a small ball lineup

Absolute steal, can't believe Melo dropped out of the first
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Celts Fan 508 on August 01, 2016, 10:29:10 PM
Rondo you left me scrambling now
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: The Walker Wiggle on August 01, 2016, 10:29:39 PM
Thoughts on the trade?

Let's see who's available at 2.16. But my first impression, solid deal.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Rondo2287 on August 01, 2016, 10:36:38 PM
Hard to believe melo is only two years older than horford
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: RJ87 on August 01, 2016, 10:38:59 PM
Hard to believe melo is only two years older than horford

My favorite thing about that trade is that you got the 4th round pick. You lose the 3rd rounder but you can still round out your team well.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: KGs Knee on August 02, 2016, 08:37:56 AM
Hard to believe melo is only two years older than horford

My favorite thing about that trade is that you got the 4th round pick. You lose the 3rd rounder but you can still round out your team well.

IDK...that drop from 3.16 to 4.30 is huge.  Probably more than the value gained jumping from 2.16 to 2.1.  I guess the crux of the matter is how Melo is actually viewed.  If we're actually basing his value on his production and affect on the game, it's a bad trade.  But if his value is being based on his subjective value, which is probably a bit higher due to his name still carrying a certain cache, than it is probably a good deal.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Rondo2287 on August 02, 2016, 08:47:47 AM
Hard to believe melo is only two years older than horford

My favorite thing about that trade is that you got the 4th round pick. You lose the 3rd rounder but you can still round out your team well.

IDK...that drop from 3.16 to 4.30 is huge.  Probably more than the value gained jumping from 2.16 to 2.1.  I guess the crux of the matter is how Melo is actually viewed.  If we're actually basing his value on his production and affect on the game, it's a bad trade.  But if his value is being based on his subjective value, which is probably a bit higher due to his name still carrying a certain cache, than it is probably a good deal.

I think Carmelo is still pretty solid.  A clear top 20 player TODAY.  Melo has been stuck on a crappy team the last 2-3 years thats in transition with a bad coach and questionable management.  In the right situation i think he is a very very valuable piece. 
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: RJ87 on August 02, 2016, 09:05:22 AM
I still have interest in moving up, but I'm starting to feel better about one of my guys falling to 24.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Rondo2287 on August 02, 2016, 09:06:35 AM
Millsap and Gasol is going to be a monster frontcourt to try and defend.  Woof
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: ChillyWilly on August 02, 2016, 09:08:38 AM
Millsap and Gasol is going to be a monster frontcourt to try and defend.  Woof

I was working on deals since 7am for that pick unfortunately my asking price was too much.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: BleedGreen1989 on August 02, 2016, 09:12:19 AM
Kevin Love

Mk

Good pick, I was debating between him and Melo at 1

Thanks Rondo.

KLove is a top 10 player when he's not playing with LeBron.


Mk

(Feverishly scribbling down in DKC notepad)
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: BleedGreen1989 on August 02, 2016, 09:12:54 AM
It will be easier to comment too when we start to draft enough players for a Rosters Thread.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: KGs Knee on August 02, 2016, 09:16:24 AM
Hard to believe melo is only two years older than horford

My favorite thing about that trade is that you got the 4th round pick. You lose the 3rd rounder but you can still round out your team well.

IDK...that drop from 3.16 to 4.30 is huge.  Probably more than the value gained jumping from 2.16 to 2.1.  I guess the crux of the matter is how Melo is actually viewed.  If we're actually basing his value on his production and affect on the game, it's a bad trade.  But if his value is being based on his subjective value, which is probably a bit higher due to his name still carrying a certain cache, than it is probably a good deal.

I think Carmelo is still pretty solid.  A clear top 20 player TODAY.  Melo has been stuck on a crappy team the last 2-3 years thats in transition with a bad coach and questionable management.  In the right situation i think he is a very very valuable piece. 

I had him ranked #30 per my super secret statistical model.

Per that model you potentially lost 0.20 pts in total score, which would be roughly the equivalent of a full win share.

But subjectively, having a second "go-to" scorer might very well overcome that difference.

Like I said yesterday, I'm using this draft as one big science experiment.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: KGs Knee on August 02, 2016, 09:19:06 AM
Kevin Love

Mk

Good pick, I was debating between him and Melo at 1

Thanks Rondo.

KLove is a top 10 player when he's not playing with LeBron.


Mk

(Feverishly scribbling down in DKC notepad)

LOL!
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: BleedGreen1989 on August 02, 2016, 09:22:22 AM
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Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Celts Fan 508 on August 02, 2016, 09:30:20 AM
I have the 2nd pick in the 3rd round, looking to move back to a later pick in round 3 and pick up an additional pick if anyone is interested.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: BigAlTheFuture on August 02, 2016, 10:03:30 AM
PM me for trades
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: nickagneta on August 02, 2016, 10:06:04 AM
Lookingvto move up into the early part of round three. Anyone looking to move down send me a PM
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Rondo2287 on August 02, 2016, 10:23:11 AM
Dang Whiteside and Simmons makes for a fun/athletic team
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: RJ87 on August 02, 2016, 10:26:17 AM
I wanted Simmons bad.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: wdleehi on August 02, 2016, 10:29:41 AM
Dang Whiteside and Simmons makes for a fun/athletic team


Though I wonder if in real life you would want to put those two together.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: The Rondo Show on August 02, 2016, 10:29:57 AM
Looking to acquire another pick soonish
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: The Rondo Show on August 02, 2016, 10:30:50 AM
Dang Whiteside and Simmons makes for a fun/athletic team


Though I wonder if in real life you would want to put those two together.
Yeah you would
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: airbelinelli on August 02, 2016, 10:54:40 AM
I now still have not picked any players. Please tell me if I'm being dumb or not.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: RJ87 on August 02, 2016, 11:02:11 AM
I now still have not picked any players. Please tell me if I'm being dumb or not.

didn't you pick Andre Drummond?
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: airbelinelli on August 02, 2016, 11:04:58 AM
That pick was dealt as well
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: BleedGreen1989 on August 02, 2016, 11:14:23 AM
I now still have not picked any players. Please tell me if I'm being dumb or not.

Idk if I'd say dumb, but you need to eventually draft some high-end players or you'll end up with a deep but overall fairly mediocre team.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: snively on August 02, 2016, 12:00:39 PM
That pick was dealt as well

Who to?
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on August 02, 2016, 12:03:05 PM
With pick 2.8, the Brooklyn Nets select Andrew Wiggins

Ah, darn it.

Thought he was going to last. Good pick.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: RJ87 on August 02, 2016, 12:12:01 PM
With pick 2.8, the Brooklyn Nets select Andrew Wiggins

Ah, darn it.

Thought he was going to last. Good pick.

There was one guy who's slipping who may have been a better fit, but I love Wiggins' talent.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Celts Fan 508 on August 02, 2016, 12:15:26 PM
With pick 2.8, the Brooklyn Nets select Andrew Wiggins

Ah, darn it.

Thought he was going to last. Good pick.

There was one guy who's slipping who may have been a better fit, but I love Wiggins' talent.

I almost took Wiggins over Prozingis but I felt that he was too similar to my first round choice of DeRozan
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on August 02, 2016, 12:49:56 PM
Love the Nikola Jokic pick.

Underrated in value, and a very good player overall.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Denis998 on August 02, 2016, 12:54:25 PM
Thoughts on the CJ pick?
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: snively on August 02, 2016, 12:54:41 PM
Love the Nikola Jokic pick.

Underrated in value, and a very good player overall.

Denver had playoff-caliber point differential when he was on the court and a bottom 5 differential when he was off - for a rook, that's pretty incredible. Pretty much the opposite of another young guy I can't mention here.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Celtic Fan Forever on August 02, 2016, 12:55:19 PM
Love the Nikola Jokic pick.

Underrated in value, and a very good player overall.

Thanks. I really didn't feel like going the TOTF route again, but he's just too good to pass up all around, and I think he can get to that next level sooner rather than later.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: snively on August 02, 2016, 12:55:24 PM
Thoughts on the CJ pick?

Nice scoring, but I think you left some more complete players on the board.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: The Walker Wiggle on August 02, 2016, 12:58:09 PM
Thoughts on the CJ pick?

Nice scoring, but I think you left some more complete players on the board.

Nah, I love him and I'm encouraged by how well he shouldered the increased workload last season.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: The Walker Wiggle on August 02, 2016, 12:59:28 PM
This pick might seem a bit surprising to some, but this guy is a monster in the advanced stats department. Top 25 in VORP and WS/48 and top 10 in real plus minus... as a rookie. Per 36 stats of:  16.5 ppg  11.6 rpg and 3.9 apg.

With the 11th pick in the 2nd round, Orlando selects Nikola Jokic



Love this pick.

Does everything you want from an offensive center - shoots, passes, rebounds, scores inside. His defensive plus-minus stats are pretty excellent too.

Oof. Where's MK? I've been on board with Big Honey since last offseason, I never imagined he'd go Round 2 though. That's on me.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Denis998 on August 02, 2016, 01:01:41 PM
Thoughts on the CJ pick?

Nice scoring, but I think you left some more complete players on the board.
I was torn between him and another player, figured a good pg will still be around in the 3rd round
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Evantime34 on August 02, 2016, 01:07:09 PM
Thoughts on the CJ pick?

Nice scoring, but I think you left some more complete players on the board.

Nah, I love him and I'm encouraged by how well he shouldered the increased workload last season.
Agreed, McCollum is very good. A young player who can shoot like him is extremely valuable in them modern NBA.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on August 02, 2016, 01:08:00 PM

Thoughts on the CJ pick?

Solid pick. His 20 ppg scoring is great, and because CJ can play either guard spots, it's leaving you a lot of versatility in the upcoming rounds.

Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: The Walker Wiggle on August 02, 2016, 01:11:03 PM
Love the Nikola Jokic pick.

Underrated in value, and a very good player overall.

He went top 50, and ahead of a couple of recent All Star big men, so not underrated at all. I'll be watching next season. His metrics are phenomenal, but he also only played 35 minutes once.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: RJ87 on August 02, 2016, 01:11:55 PM
There's a pretty good guy that's slipping right now.

EDIT: It wasn't D.Wade.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: RJ87 on August 02, 2016, 01:31:36 PM
Was really torn with this pick but with pick 2.14 Indiana Pacers select Rudy Gobert.

Jimmy and Gobert should make a strong defensive tandem.

...Still a guy I see slipping.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: ChillyWilly on August 02, 2016, 01:31:40 PM
Thoughts on the CJ pick?

I like it. He went in the range I thought he would.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: The Walker Wiggle on August 02, 2016, 01:39:50 PM
Giannis Antetokounmpo and Danilo Gallinari

Hot takes?
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Rondo2287 on August 02, 2016, 01:42:47 PM
Giannis Antetokounmpo and Danilo Gallinari

Hot takes?

Zeus and Jupiter
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: DinoGanga on August 02, 2016, 01:58:08 PM
How much does a players injury history weigh into this?
Do we assume everyone is healthy for the matchups?
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Denis998 on August 02, 2016, 01:58:56 PM
Surprised how my #2 rank player has fallen so far
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: snively on August 02, 2016, 01:59:14 PM
Giannis Antetokounmpo and Danilo Gallinari

Hot takes?

Really tough to match-up with at 3/4, but Gallo's injuries have to factor in - misses 30+% of every season and that's without counting the entire season he lost.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Who on August 02, 2016, 02:01:36 PM
How much does a players injury history weigh into this?
Do we assume everyone is healthy for the matchups?

It is very subjective. People deal with it differently.

If you have a player who is assumed to be injured for part of the season your team will likely be docked on regular season W-L. So a lower playoff seed or miss the playoffs altogether. In the playoffs, most give benefit of the doubt that players are healthy. Some will not and if they are important players then that will likely be enough to lose that playoff series.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Gainesville Celtic on August 02, 2016, 02:18:10 PM
How much does a players injury history weigh into this?
Do we assume everyone is healthy for the matchups?

It is very subjective. People deal with it differently.

If you have a player who is assumed to be injured for part of the season your team will likely be docked on regular season W-L. So a lower playoff seed or miss the playoffs altogether. In the playoffs, most give benefit of the doubt that players are healthy. Some will not and if they are important players then that will likely be enough to lose that playoff series.

Yeah i've always looked at it (a) if these teams started playing in Oct. like the real NBA so a guy like B. Griffin who still has questions about his health might still miss 20 games.and (b) a team with an "injury-prone" guy needs, like the real NBA, depth behind him.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: The Walker Wiggle on August 02, 2016, 02:29:41 PM
Giannis Antetokounmpo and Danilo Gallinari

Hot takes?

Really tough to match-up with at 3/4, but Gallo's injuries have to factor in - misses 30+% of every season and that's without counting the entire season he lost.

I'm optimistic. He's 100%, played for Italy this summer, in fact, could've finished out last season  but Denver had no reason to bring him back off that ankle sprain. He's healthier than Blake Griffin right now. But, I agree he's one a handful of top 50-60 players with a injury concerns. (Am I the only guy that would've liked to see Paul George take the summer off?)

The same thinking did scare me off another first round talent, and Walker Wiggle favorite, still on the board.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Celts Fan 508 on August 02, 2016, 02:34:19 PM
Giannis Antetokounmpo and Danilo Gallinari

Hot takes?

Really tough to match-up with at 3/4, but Gallo's injuries have to factor in - misses 30+% of every season and that's without counting the entire season he lost.

I'm optimistic. He's 100%, played for Italy this summer, in fact, could've finished out last season  but Denver had no reason to bring him back off that ankle sprain. He's healthier than Blake Griffin right now. But, I agree he's one a handful of top 50-60 players with a injury concerns. (Am I the only guy that would've liked to see Paul George take the summer off?)

The same thinking did scare me off another first round talent, and Walker Wiggle favorite, still on the board.

i think he was just picked
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: The Walker Wiggle on August 02, 2016, 02:36:37 PM
Giannis Antetokounmpo and Danilo Gallinari

Hot takes?

Really tough to match-up with at 3/4, but Gallo's injuries have to factor in - misses 30+% of every season and that's without counting the entire season he lost.

I'm optimistic. He's 100%, played for Italy this summer, in fact, could've finished out last season  but Denver had no reason to bring him back off that ankle sprain. He's healthier than Blake Griffin right now. But, I agree he's one a handful of top 50-60 players with a injury concerns. (Am I the only guy that would've liked to see Paul George take the summer off?)

The same thinking did scare me off another first round talent, and Walker Wiggle favorite, still on the board.

i think he was just picked

Not even the guy! But same argument. NBA should shorten the season by 10-15 games, eliminate back-to-backs entirely. The 82 game grind is brutal.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: The Walker Wiggle on August 02, 2016, 02:38:36 PM
With Pick 2.16, the Portland Trailblazers select Marc Gasol.

Great pick, one of the league's best defenders. Is he underrated now or is his foot to blame for his drop? Tough for me to justify Jokic over Gasol if both are 100%.

Combo of underrated and hurt. For example, I think he's clearly better than Horford, who went 12th IIRC.

I love the pick, but I prefer Horford particularly for the modern game. Marc is strictly a five and he defines a teams style on offense and defense far more than Horford.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Celts Fan 508 on August 02, 2016, 02:39:18 PM
Giannis Antetokounmpo and Danilo Gallinari

Hot takes?

Really tough to match-up with at 3/4, but Gallo's injuries have to factor in - misses 30+% of every season and that's without counting the entire season he lost.

I'm optimistic. He's 100%, played for Italy this summer, in fact, could've finished out last season  but Denver had no reason to bring him back off that ankle sprain. He's healthier than Blake Griffin right now. But, I agree he's one a handful of top 50-60 players with a injury concerns. (Am I the only guy that would've liked to see Paul George take the summer off?)

The same thinking did scare me off another first round talent, and Walker Wiggle favorite, still on the board.

i think he was just picked

Not even the guy! But same argument. NBA should shorten the season by 10-15 games, eliminate back-to-backs entirely. The 82 game grind is brutal.

I agree, I know who you are talking about too (I think).
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: RJ87 on August 02, 2016, 02:40:03 PM
Giannis Antetokounmpo and Danilo Gallinari

Hot takes?

Really tough to match-up with at 3/4, but Gallo's injuries have to factor in - misses 30+% of every season and that's without counting the entire season he lost.

I'm optimistic. He's 100%, played for Italy this summer, in fact, could've finished out last season  but Denver had no reason to bring him back off that ankle sprain. He's healthier than Blake Griffin right now. But, I agree he's one a handful of top 50-60 players with a injury concerns. (Am I the only guy that would've liked to see Paul George take the summer off?)

The same thinking did scare me off another first round talent, and Walker Wiggle favorite, still on the board.

i think he was just picked

Not even the guy! But same argument. NBA should shorten the season by 10-15 games, eliminate back-to-backs entirely. The 82 game grind is brutal.

I think I know who you're talking about, I considered at 2.8.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Celts Fan 508 on August 02, 2016, 02:49:14 PM
Giannis Antetokounmpo and Danilo Gallinari

Hot takes?

Really tough to match-up with at 3/4, but Gallo's injuries have to factor in - misses 30+% of every season and that's without counting the entire season he lost.

I'm optimistic. He's 100%, played for Italy this summer, in fact, could've finished out last season  but Denver had no reason to bring him back off that ankle sprain. He's healthier than Blake Griffin right now. But, I agree he's one a handful of top 50-60 players with a injury concerns. (Am I the only guy that would've liked to see Paul George take the summer off?)

The same thinking did scare me off another first round talent, and Walker Wiggle favorite, still on the board.

i think he was just picked

Not even the guy! But same argument. NBA should shorten the season by 10-15 games, eliminate back-to-backs entirely. The 82 game grind is brutal.

Taken now?
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: The Walker Wiggle on August 02, 2016, 03:02:05 PM
Taken now?

I LOVE to watch Bledsoe bulldoze big men in the lane. And he was playing with a new found level of control last season. 20.4 points, 6.1 assists and 4 rebounds per? This has been a crazy second round.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Evantime34 on August 02, 2016, 03:04:15 PM
Taking offers to move back or out of the 2nd. Please PM me.

Anyone who is in the DKC league please hit me up on Slack.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Celts Fan 508 on August 02, 2016, 03:04:49 PM
Taken now?

I LOVE to watch Bledsoe bulldoze big men in the lane. And he was playing with a new found level of control last season. 20.4 points, 6.1 assists and 4 rebounds per? This has been a crazy second round.

Thats who I assumed you were talking about, certainly based upon talent he would have gone much much earlier, just seems injury prone, probably because of how aggressive he always plays.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Who on August 02, 2016, 03:10:26 PM
Taken now?

I LOVE to watch Bledsoe bulldoze big men in the lane. And he was playing with a new found level of control last season. 20.4 points, 6.1 assists and 4 rebounds per? This has been a crazy second round.

Thats who I assumed you were talking about, certainly based upon talent he would have gone much much earlier, just seems injury prone, probably because of how aggressive he always plays.

I was looking at Bledsoe's missed games earlier. It goes:

1st year = full season
2nd year = injured, half season
3rd year = full season
4th year = injured, half season
5th year = full season
6th year = injured, almost half a season

One full season. Then one half season. One full season. Then one half season ...

So he's due a full season next year, right?
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Celts Fan 508 on August 02, 2016, 03:12:38 PM
Taken now?

I LOVE to watch Bledsoe bulldoze big men in the lane. And he was playing with a new found level of control last season. 20.4 points, 6.1 assists and 4 rebounds per? This has been a crazy second round.

Thats who I assumed you were talking about, certainly based upon talent he would have gone much much earlier, just seems injury prone, probably because of how aggressive he always plays.

I was looking at Bledsoe's missed games earlier. It goes:

1st year = full season
2nd year = injured, half season
3rd year = full season
4th year = injured, half season
5th year = full season
6th year = injured, almost half a season

One full season. Then one half season. One full season. Then one half season ...

So he's due a full season next year, right?

I hope so, would certainly help the Celtics pick plus he is fun to watch.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: airbelinelli on August 02, 2016, 03:23:00 PM
Taken now?

I LOVE to watch Bledsoe bulldoze big men in the lane. And he was playing with a new found level of control last season. 20.4 points, 6.1 assists and 4 rebounds per? This has been a crazy second round.

Thats who I assumed you were talking about, certainly based upon talent he would have gone much much earlier, just seems injury prone, probably because of how aggressive he always plays.

I was looking at Bledsoe's missed games earlier. It goes:

1st year = full season
2nd year = injured, half season
3rd year = full season
4th year = injured, half season
5th year = full season
6th year = injured, almost half a season

One full season. Then one half season. One full season. Then one half season ...

So he's due a full season next year, right?

I'm using this if anyone tries to use the injury argument on Bledsoe. Thanks for that.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on August 02, 2016, 03:26:31 PM
I'm not sure where I'm going now.

It feels like the Towns-Middleton combo is the same as Towns-Wiggins, only with less athleticism but better shooting. Wanted a PG or a Ball Handler in that's spot and I was robbed.

Thanks a lot for taking Eric Bledsoe and Andre Iguodala (you know who you guys are), and ruining my plan in the process.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Denis998 on August 02, 2016, 03:31:18 PM
Thoughts on Reggie Jackson at 20? Stats almost identical to Isaiah thomas
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Who on August 02, 2016, 03:32:45 PM
Thoughts on Reggie Jackson at 20? Stats almost identical to Isaiah thomas

I was hoping he would slip a bit further. Very good PG.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Evantime34 on August 02, 2016, 03:34:24 PM
Does anyone think I could get away with having Klay Thompson play the 3?

Also, please PM me if you are interested in 2.23
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Who on August 02, 2016, 03:35:17 PM
Does anyone think I could get away with having Klay Thompson play the 3?
Yep. Klay can defend the 3 and he will be even more difficult to defend on the other end.

Rebounding will take a bit of a hit though.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: RJ87 on August 02, 2016, 03:35:20 PM
Does anyone think I could get away with having Klay Thompson play the 3?

IMO, he has the size to play the 3.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on August 02, 2016, 03:38:14 PM
Does anyone think I could get away with having Klay Thompson play the 3?

Also, please PM me if you are interested in 2.23

Didn't we settle this at the DKC side already? Yah can't.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: RJ87 on August 02, 2016, 03:38:56 PM
My other guy is still hanging around... Maybe could've stayed at 24 after all lol.

EDIT: There he goes at 23.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: airbelinelli on August 02, 2016, 04:05:30 PM
So here's what the Warriors look like heading into day 3:

PG: Eric Bledsoe
SG: Bradley Beal
SF:
PF:
C: Myles Turner

With two picks tomorrow to fill out the rest of the roster.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: The Walker Wiggle on August 02, 2016, 04:11:13 PM
With Pick 2.22, the Cleveland Cavaliers select Serge Ibaka.
Great pick! You probably already know how I feel about Ibaka.

Thanks. Surprised a 3 and D PF/ small ball C ( how many of those exist? ) like him lasted this long.
People overall seem to be down on him, I gauged interest in him in the DKC and people weren't willing to give up a ton.

Declining numbers for two straight seasons is a little disconcerting, particularly his rebound rate. Donovan's choice to forge ahead with Brooks' plan to make him a stretch 4/5 doesn't fully explain his struggles. A contract year as the alpha dog in Orlando is going to decide a lot. Still worst case scenario you got a playoff-tested elite shot blocker who moves well laterally and knocks down open jumpers.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: DinoGanga on August 02, 2016, 04:12:11 PM
Can LeBron play the 4 full time?
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: The Walker Wiggle on August 02, 2016, 04:13:38 PM
Can LeBron play the 4 full time?

You'll have to ask him, since he decides everything in your organization now.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: DinoGanga on August 02, 2016, 04:15:05 PM
He said yes and slapped me across the head for being insolent
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: The Walker Wiggle on August 02, 2016, 04:19:21 PM
He said yes and slapped me across the head for being insolent

I know this is a game of pretend, but I'm not sure I believe you get a face to face meeting with James in early August.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Kane3387 on August 02, 2016, 05:16:57 PM
I'm not sure where I'm going now.

It feels like the Towns-Middleton combo is the same as Towns-Wiggins, only with less athleticism but better shooting. Wanted a PG or a Ball Handler in that's spot and I was robbed.

Thanks a lot for taking Eric Bledsoe and Andre Iguodala (you know who you guys are), and ruining my plan in the process.

Haha you can always make an offer on iggy if you want too
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Denis998 on August 02, 2016, 05:24:51 PM
What do you guys think about my picks so far,Blake Griffin, CJ McCollum, and Reggie Jackson. Great shooting from the outside for good floor spacing which gives Blake good room to operate for drives and post ups. Blake is also an excellent passer so he should be able to find the open man.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: snively on August 02, 2016, 05:28:01 PM
What do you guys think about my picks so far,Blake Griffin, CJ McCollum, and Reggie Jackson. Great shooting from the outside for good floor spacing which gives Blake good room to operate for drives and post ups. Blake is also an excellent passer so he should be able to find the open man.

A ton of offensive talent. Great for run and gun basketball. Just need to get some rebounding and defensive length to fill the gaps without ruining your spacing.

I think SVG would love to work with this group.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Who on August 02, 2016, 05:56:14 PM
After two rounds, my favourite teams / duos are:

(1) Milwaukee = CP3 & D-Howard
(2) Sacramento = Lillard & Kawhi

I also really like GSW UTA (Towns, Middleton) and Orlando (P.George, N.Jokic).

I really like the idea of Orlando's offense built around Jokic in the high post (like Marc Gasol) and with Paul George as a playmaking wing. Golden State have something similar as well. Great opportunities to build team orientated offenses around those stars. A lot of highly skilled unselfish play. Especially with those two centers. I love offenses built around skilled centers.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on August 02, 2016, 05:57:55 PM
After two rounds, my favourite teams / duos are:

(1) Milwaukee = CP3 & D-Howard
(2) Sacramento = Lillard & Kawhi

I also really like GSW (Towns, Middleton) and Orlando (P.George, N.Jokic).

I really like the idea of Orlando's offense built around Jokic in the high post (like Marc Gasol) and with Paul George as a playmaking wing. Golden State have something similar as well. Great opportunities to build team orientated offenses around those stars. A lot of highly skilled unselfish play. Especially with those two centers. I love offenses built around skilled centers.

It's Utah, Who. The DKC League had yah confused.

But thank you.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: BigAlTheFuture on August 02, 2016, 06:01:20 PM
If you're interested in either Bosh or Westbrook, let me know.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Who on August 02, 2016, 06:03:05 PM
What do you guys think about my picks so far,Blake Griffin, CJ McCollum, and Reggie Jackson. Great shooting from the outside for good floor spacing which gives Blake good room to operate for drives and post ups. Blake is also an excellent passer so he should be able to find the open man.

I like it. Two guards who can create off the dribble out on the perimeter. Blake Griffin as an inside-outside scorer and additional playmaker. Gives you three guys who can make plays both for themselves but also for other players as well. Tough to defend against.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Rondo2287 on August 02, 2016, 06:03:33 PM
After two rounds, my favourite teams / duos are:

(1) Milwaukee = CP3 & D-Howard
(2) Sacramento = Lillard & Kawhi

I also really like GSW UTA (Towns, Middleton) and Orlando (P.George, N.Jokic).

I really like the idea of Orlando's offense built around Jokic in the high post (like Marc Gasol) and with Paul George as a playmaking wing. Golden State have something similar as well. Great opportunities to build team orientated offenses around those stars. A lot of highly skilled unselfish play. Especially with those two centers. I love offenses built around skilled centers.

No love for Carmelo and Aldridge?
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Rondo2287 on August 02, 2016, 06:05:04 PM
Pick 4.15 is on the block
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: airbelinelli on August 02, 2016, 06:09:20 PM
Posted before but didn't get much.

I have Bledsoe, beal and Turner who do I target with my two other picks tomorrow?
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: RJ87 on August 02, 2016, 06:12:52 PM
Still surprised Brad Beal fell behind McCollum - is that the injury history at play?
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on August 02, 2016, 06:14:17 PM
Posted before but didn't get much.

I have Bledsoe, beal and Turner who do I target with my two other picks tomorrow?

How about you give them to me? LOL.

Honestly, I think you've recovered well after not having a 1st round pick.

I wanted Eric Bledsoe but you took him two picks ahead I believe, that's a great pick. I think he stays healthy enough this season, and when he's healthy, he's a great player.

Bradley Beal is who I'm concerned with injury wise. That kid has not played a full season in any of his year's in the NBA. It might look like I we could expect a few more games missed from him. 
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Who on August 02, 2016, 06:15:32 PM
After two rounds, my favourite teams / duos are:

(1) Milwaukee = CP3 & D-Howard
(2) Sacramento = Lillard & Kawhi

I also really like GSW UTA (Towns, Middleton) and Orlando (P.George, N.Jokic).

I really like the idea of Orlando's offense built around Jokic in the high post (like Marc Gasol) and with Paul George as a playmaking wing. Golden State have something similar as well. Great opportunities to build team orientated offenses around those stars. A lot of highly skilled unselfish play. Especially with those two centers. I love offenses built around skilled centers.

No love for Carmelo and Aldridge?

Not sure yet. It has a lot of potential (two top 20/25 players) but ...

I am little apprehensive about them as a pairing. Both are high-usage offensive players. Neither are prolific passers. Both play a fair bit of one-on-one basketball. Neither are high efficiency offensive players or defensive leaders. I worry that it could devolve into a his turn / my turn type of team (because of the amount of touches they both need) without the right players around them.

So I think the next few picks for this duo are more important than the above combos. So I gave those other combos have a bit of an advantage with that (for now at least). Then again, if things go well Melo & Aldridge could jump right up to the top group. They have that potential in them. Not sure either way yet. So I left them off.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on August 02, 2016, 06:17:49 PM
Still surprised Brad Beal fell behind McCollum - is that the injury history at play?

That and probably efficiency. Percentage wise, CJ McCollum could be deemed as a better shooter than the two.

Add to it that McCollum can play the point if needed.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Denis998 on August 02, 2016, 06:25:36 PM
Still surprised Brad Beal fell behind McCollum - is that the injury history at play?

That and probably efficiency. Percentage wise, CJ McCollum could be deemed as a better shooter than the two.

Add to it that McCollum can play the point if needed.
Just about sums it up. Beal's injury history was main factor, and CJ is either equal or better than Beal in almost all categories.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Celts Fan 508 on August 02, 2016, 06:39:48 PM
I have the second pick in round 2, willing to drop back a bit if anyone wants to move up
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: KGs Knee on August 02, 2016, 06:45:23 PM
Horford and/or Conley are available for trade discussion
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Evantime34 on August 02, 2016, 07:08:20 PM
Gauging interest in Klay Thompson. Please PM/Slack me with offer for him.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: mkogav on August 02, 2016, 09:09:06 PM
3.4 and 4.27 are available for a good player and a 6th rounder.

Mk
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Celts Fan 508 on August 02, 2016, 09:09:53 PM
3.2 has been traded
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Denis998 on August 02, 2016, 09:12:25 PM
Can Blake play small ball 5 in spurts?
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: The Walker Wiggle on August 02, 2016, 09:26:38 PM
OK don't see him so....

with the #29 pick the Toronto Raptors select Brook Lopez

Brook is tough to build around but that's a lot of talent and scoring this late.
So is Rubio though

True, though not to the same degree, IMO. Rubio has major deficiencies as a scorer and shooter but he's a remarkable player in every other category. Lopez is an excellent scorer but has major deficiencies elsewhere (in just about every area).

Just got home. Thank you commish for your help. I gave him a list of 20 guys (approximately how many picks before mine) and Brook Lopez was #4 on the list. I love the pick as my BPA, and getting out of the NBA abyss that is Brooklyn will help Lopez. I love having a 30 pt scorer and a 20 pt scorer with my first two picks. It helps that one of them is 7 ft tall.

Brook Lopez is not a great defensive player. He has, however, averaged over 18 points, 7.5 rebounds, and almost two blocks per game over his career playing on mediocre-to-bad teams. He has never had anything close to Steph Curry on his team. Lopez benefits more than almost any other player with a change of scenery.

Tough to build around? If he was my best player, I could see that (my team would be the Nets). However, I picked the player who has won the last 2 MVPs as my best player.

I imagine you're not building around Rubio either. That's why you drafted Durant. Rubio reminds me of a less-athletic, less competitive Rondo.

I was hoping he would fall to me, great pick!

I had season tickets for the Nets' first three seasons in Brooklyn and have long considered Lopez underrated. He's the best value pick of the round. (I don't know how to rate Bosh...) He's put his injury troubles behind him and was a nightly threat for 20 despite drawing heavy attention while playing without an starting caliber point guard for most of the year. He's a threat from anywhere inside the arc, works the offensive glass (13th) and draws fouls at a high rate (23rd). He ranked top 40 in real +/- ahead of Anthony Davis, LMA, Blake, and Melo last season. There's also a successful blue print for pairing Curry with a traditional big man.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: max215 on August 02, 2016, 09:39:56 PM
Can Blake play small ball 5 in spurts?

Absolutely. He doesn't provide rim protection, but he's a game changer on offense.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: max215 on August 02, 2016, 09:40:25 PM
Sorry for the delay on the pick, I'm considering my options.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Gainesville Celtic on August 02, 2016, 09:43:38 PM
Sorry for the delay on the pick, I'm considering my options.

You're under no obligation to pick. Take the time you need...
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Celts Fan 508 on August 02, 2016, 09:47:08 PM
What do you think of my trade?

I got 3.30, 4.1, and 10.1 for 3.2, 4.29, 12.29
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Kane3387 on August 02, 2016, 09:58:12 PM
Sorry for the delay on the pick, I'm considering my options.

You're under no obligation to pick. Take the time you need...

Max,

Just bc he says that doesn't actually mean that he means it.  ;D
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: max215 on August 02, 2016, 10:26:32 PM
Sorry for the delay on the pick, I'm considering my options.

You're under no obligation to pick. Take the time you need...

Max,

Just bc he says that doesn't actually mean that he means it.  ;D

Haha, pick's in.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Kane3387 on August 02, 2016, 11:11:52 PM
Sorry for the delay on the pick, I'm considering my options.

You're under no obligation to pick. Take the time you need...

Max,

Just bc he says that doesn't actually mean that he means it.  ;D

Haha, pick's in.

 :laugh:
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: ChillyWilly on August 03, 2016, 09:22:19 AM
Unfortunately my pick lands at a time I'll be taking my son to the arcade today. I have a no electronics rule while out with my family. I'm sure most of you can relate to the tiny glowing screen rule.

My pick is at 3.5 (pick due at 11:50am) which as of this post is only 4 away. I'd like to send my top 4 player list to some reliable who doesn't have a pick coming up before me.

Worst come to worst I'll send it to the commish if no one steps up.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Celts Fan 508 on August 03, 2016, 09:24:23 AM
Unfortunately my pick lands at a time I'll be taking my son to the arcade today. I have a no electronics rule while out with my family. I'm sure most of you can relate to the tiny glowing screen rule.

My pick is at 3.5 (pick due at 11:50am) which as of this post is only 4 away. I'd like to send my top 4 player list to some reliable who doesn't have a pick coming up before me.

Worst come to worst I'll send it to the commish if no one steps up.

Send it to me, I pick last this round so no conflict
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: KGs Knee on August 03, 2016, 09:29:57 AM
Unfortunately my pick lands at a time I'll be taking my son to the arcade today. I have a no electronics rule while out with my family. I'm sure most of you can relate to the tiny glowing screen rule.

My pick is at 3.5 (pick due at 11:50am) which as of this post is only 4 away. I'd like to send my top 4 player list to some reliable who doesn't have a pick coming up before me.

Worst come to worst I'll send it to the commish if no one steps up.

I think it would be advisable to send it to the GC, even if you do send it to someone else.  Better to avoid any future dispute this way.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Gainesville Celtic on August 03, 2016, 09:43:25 AM
Unfortunately my pick lands at a time I'll be taking my son to the arcade today. I have a no electronics rule while out with my family. I'm sure most of you can relate to the tiny glowing screen rule.

My pick is at 3.5 (pick due at 11:50am) which as of this post is only 4 away. I'd like to send my top 4 player list to some reliable who doesn't have a pick coming up before me.

Worst come to worst I'll send it to the commish if no one steps up.

I think it would be advisable to send it to the GC, even if you do send it to someone else.  Better to avoid any future dispute this way.

No need to send it to me too --- in the 6 or so CB drafts (and many fantasy league drafts we've done this same way) i don't know that I can remember another GM who volunteered to take a list -- presumably b/c they have time and will be online -- missing a pick.

Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: KGs Knee on August 03, 2016, 09:54:07 AM
Unfortunately my pick lands at a time I'll be taking my son to the arcade today. I have a no electronics rule while out with my family. I'm sure most of you can relate to the tiny glowing screen rule.

My pick is at 3.5 (pick due at 11:50am) which as of this post is only 4 away. I'd like to send my top 4 player list to some reliable who doesn't have a pick coming up before me.

Worst come to worst I'll send it to the commish if no one steps up.

I think it would be advisable to send it to the GC, even if you do send it to someone else.  Better to avoid any future dispute this way.

No need to send it to me too --- in the 6 or so CB drafts (and many fantasy league drafts we've done this same way) i don't know that I can remember another GM who volunteered to take a list -- presumably b/c they have time and will be online -- missing a pick.



Fair enough.

I certainly wasn't suggesting anyone would try any funny business.  I just prefer to cover my bases.  Stuff happens.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Evantime34 on August 03, 2016, 11:34:44 AM
If anyone has someone there dying to pick, I'm taking offers to move back from the 8th pick in the third round.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on August 03, 2016, 11:56:52 AM
Man, it looks like very slim picking in this third round for me.

Everyone that got picked is in my draft board, and that board is slowly getting thin. Better hit a home run in this third...

Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Rondo2287 on August 03, 2016, 12:30:19 PM
Big three of
Holiday, Carmelo, and Aldridge.  Loving it
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: snively on August 03, 2016, 01:38:00 PM
Big three of
Holiday, Carmelo, and Aldridge.  Loving it

Nice get with Holiday - considered him pretty strongly late in the 2nd.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: The Walker Wiggle on August 03, 2016, 01:49:43 PM
With the 10th pick of the 3rd round the Philadelphia 76ers select Nerlens Noel.

(http://www.basketusa.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/nerlens-noel-1.jpg)

Dang. I was hoping the Philly effect would dump him down to me.

(http://i.imgur.com/yH0qW0s.gif)
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: KGs Knee on August 03, 2016, 02:47:30 PM
So after Rd 3 I have Horford - Parsons - Conley

I think that's an excellent foundation, I'm happy.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: nickagneta on August 03, 2016, 02:53:29 PM
Looking to move up into the 3rd round from 4.5. PM me any teams that have a 3rd round pick left and want to move down a bit
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Evantime34 on August 03, 2016, 03:11:28 PM
Really like the two combo forwards I'm going to start at the 3 and 4 in Aaron Gordon and Jabari Parker. I think both have super star upside. Gordon can take the more difficult match up on defense and help cover up for Jabari's d.

Thoughts on my team so far? I have 3 4ths tomorrow, that should help fill out my roster.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: ChillyWilly on August 03, 2016, 03:21:45 PM
TP to Celts Fan 508 for hooking me up so I could sneak in some family time this afternoon.

Trying to build this roster has been a challenge for me since I inherited Mike Malone as a coach (Was he really the first coach selected?). He definately runs a style I, as a fan, do not enjoy however my job as GM is to get the players to match his coaching style.

Spent a lot of time since taking over Denver watching Mike Malone's teams play from youtube videos. I'm 173% certain I have 0 idea who his protypical point guard would be.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: KGs Knee on August 03, 2016, 03:32:20 PM
Really like the two combo forwards I'm going to start at the 3 and 4 in Aaron Gordon and Jabari Parker. I think both have super star upside. Gordon can take the more difficult match up on defense and help cover up for Jabari's d.

Thoughts on my team so far? I have 3 4ths tomorrow, that should help fill out my roster.

So, as of this moment you have Klay, Parker and Gordon?  With three picks tomorrow?

That's a very solid foundation.  Should be a good team for a long time.  Probably not quite ready for the big stage right yet, but with some good picks next round you'll be right in the mix for the playoffs.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Who on August 03, 2016, 03:35:51 PM
TP to Celts Fan 508 for hooking me up so I could sneak in some family time this afternoon.

Trying to build this roster has been a challenge for me since I inherited Mike Malone as a coach (Was he really the first coach selected?). He definately runs a style I, as a fan, do not enjoy however my job as GM is to get the players to match his coaching style.

Spent a lot of time since taking over Denver watching Mike Malone's teams play from youtube videos. I'm 173% certain I have 0 idea who his protypical point guard would be.

It was a missed pick. I think Mike Malone was the last coach picked which I was surprised at. I had him in the late teens. I don't think he has a single style. He seems adaptable in his systems and to his players. He had success with Isaiah Thomas at PG in Sacramento. Then Darren Collison. I thought he handled Mudiay (a raw talent) well last year. All three guys quite different from one another. I'd say you have a lot of flexibility in what type of team / system & players you select.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: DinoGanga on August 03, 2016, 03:38:14 PM
I stressed all night in choosing who to pair with LeBron and Jae, I choose Bradley over Jonas Val and Jrue Holiday.Was I wrong?
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Kane3387 on August 03, 2016, 03:39:40 PM
lol  :blank:
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: KGs Knee on August 03, 2016, 03:40:10 PM
Cavs select deangelo Russell

wrong thread
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Kane3387 on August 03, 2016, 03:41:27 PM
Cavs select deangelo Russell

wrong thread

My bad. Thanks
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on August 03, 2016, 03:44:02 PM
C: Jonas Valanciunas
F: Karl-Anthony Towns
F:
G: Khris Middleton
G:

Solid young team with talent. I'm probably not doing a good service for Towns putting him at PF, but Valanciunas' rebounding, toughness and physicality is too much to pass.

Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: ChillyWilly on August 03, 2016, 03:49:44 PM
I stressed all night in choosing who to pair with LeBron and Jae, I choose Bradley over Jonas Val and Jrue Holiday.Was I wrong?

I think Bradley is way underrated by even Celtics fans. I had him top 4 on my big board when you made your pick. AB would be a great starting SG on a championship team that already has an Alpha go to scorer.

The argument that he's undersized for the 2 is hogwash. Top defensive guard in the league (even before last season) who has 0 issue getting his shot off with a man in his grill. There are so many little things about Avery's game while watching tape of him it makes me giddy. My biggest beef with him is he doesn't have the tightest handle.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Evantime34 on August 03, 2016, 03:51:20 PM
C: Jonas Valanciunas
F: Karl-Anthony Towns
F:
G: Khris Middleton
G:

Solid young team with talent. I'm probably not doing a good service for Towns putting him at PF, but Valanciunas' rebounding, toughness and physicality is too much to pass.
I think going big like that in today's day and age is a bad idea. I guess if everyone in your lineup besides Val can shoot it will be ok. But having two 7 footers can really gum up spacing and make you slow on close outs imo.

Watching the Celtics last year really reinforced my feeling that teams are most successful when they have no more than one guy who can't shoot/create off the dribble on the floor at a time.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: RJ87 on August 03, 2016, 03:53:52 PM
Am I the only one getting absolutely nothing done at work right now?
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on August 03, 2016, 03:54:44 PM
C: Jonas Valanciunas
F: Karl-Anthony Towns
F:
G: Khris Middleton
G:

Solid young team with talent. I'm probably not doing a good service for Towns putting him at PF, but Valanciunas' rebounding, toughness and physicality is too much to pass.
I think going big like that in today's day and age is a bad idea. I guess if everyone in your lineup besides Val can shoot it will be ok. But having two 7 footers can really gum up spacing and make you slow on close outs imo.

Watching the Celtics last year really reinforced my feeling that teams are most successful when they have no more than one guy who can't shoot/create off the dribble on the floor at a time.

Yeah. But Towns is quick enough to play PF I think were solid defensively.

For sure I still need some sort of a stretch 4, but I could start with this lineup and stagger the positions.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: DinoGanga on August 03, 2016, 03:56:21 PM
I stressed all night in choosing who to pair with LeBron and Jae, I choose Bradley over Jonas Val and Jrue Holiday.Was I wrong?

I think Bradley is way underrated by even Celtics fans. I had him top 4 on my big board when you made your pick. AB would be a great starting SG on a championship team that already has an Alpha go to scorer.

The argument that he's undersized for the 2 is hogwash. Top defensive guard in the league (even before last season) who has 0 issue getting his shot off with a man in his grill. There are so many little things about Avery's game while watching tape of him it makes me giddy. My biggest beef with him is he doesn't have the tightest handle.



Whew! I feel better.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: RJ87 on August 03, 2016, 04:00:54 PM
Trade Announcement

Cavs trade D'Angelo Russell, 13.17, and 13.22

Nets trade 4.23, 5.24, and 7.8

Slight overpay on my part, but Russell is going to be good. The 2nd half of his rookie year showed serious potential.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Who on August 03, 2016, 04:01:24 PM
I stressed all night in choosing who to pair with LeBron and Jae, I choose Bradley over Jonas Val and Jrue Holiday.Was I wrong?
I like Avery the best of that trio. 
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Who on August 03, 2016, 04:03:29 PM
Really like the two combo forwards I'm going to start at the 3 and 4 in Aaron Gordon and Jabari Parker. I think both have super star upside. Gordon can take the more difficult match up on defense and help cover up for Jabari's d.

Thoughts on my team so far? I have 3 4ths tomorrow, that should help fill out my roster.

Fun group. I like the interchangeability of those 3 guys -- Klay, Jabari and A.Gordon.

They mesh nicely together. Klay as the sharpshooter and scorer. Jabari offers more of an isolation threat when needed. More of a physical power 3. Aaron Gordon is a glue guy forward who does all the other things. One of the top young defensive players in the league. I think they will combine very well with one another.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Evantime34 on August 03, 2016, 04:07:40 PM
Really like the two combo forwards I'm going to start at the 3 and 4 in Aaron Gordon and Jabari Parker. I think both have super star upside. Gordon can take the more difficult match up on defense and help cover up for Jabari's d.

Thoughts on my team so far? I have 3 4ths tomorrow, that should help fill out my roster.

Fun group. I like the interchangeability of those 3 guys -- Klay, Jabari and A.Gordon.

They mesh nicely together. Klay as the sharpshooter and scorer. Jabari offers more of an isolation threat when needed. More of a physical power 3. Aaron Gordon is a glue guy forward who does all the other things. One of the top young defensive players in the league. I think they will combine very well with one another.
Thanks man. TP!

I have 3 picks tomorrow. What areas do you think I should target?
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Celts Fan 508 on August 03, 2016, 04:08:22 PM
Trade Announcement

Cavs trade D'Angelo Russell, 13.17, and 13.22

Nets trade 4.23, 5.24, and 7.8

Slight overpay on my part, but Russell is going to be good. The 2nd half of his rookie year showed serious potential.

D'Angelo and Cousins in the same locker room, that will be nuts.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: RJ87 on August 03, 2016, 04:10:35 PM
Trade Announcement

Cavs trade D'Angelo Russell, 13.17, and 13.22

Nets trade 4.23, 5.24, and 7.8

Slight overpay on my part, but Russell is going to be good. The 2nd half of his rookie year showed serious potential.

D'Angelo and Cousins in the same locker room, that will be nuts.

Nets have a "No Recording in the Locker Room" policy.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Evantime34 on August 03, 2016, 04:10:40 PM
Trade Announcement

Cavs trade D'Angelo Russell, 13.17, and 13.22

Nets trade 4.23, 5.24, and 7.8

Slight overpay on my part, but Russell is going to be good. The 2nd half of his rookie year showed serious potential.

D'Angelo and Cousins in the same locker room, that will be nuts.
I love those guys individually, but both need to be surrounded by high effort guys that can play defense. Not really a fan of the pairing (although I love the value where D'Angelo was picked)
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: nickagneta on August 03, 2016, 04:12:30 PM
OKC Thunder

PG: Jeff Teague
SG: Rodney Hood
SF:
PF: Ryan Anderson
PF/C: Draymond Green
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: airbelinelli on August 03, 2016, 04:12:39 PM
So I didn't pick early but I have 5 guys selected through 3 rounds:

Bledsoe, Beal, Turner, Winslow, Ingram.

Thoughts?
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: RJ87 on August 03, 2016, 04:14:33 PM
OKC Thunder

PG: Jeff Teague
SG: Rodney Hood
SF:
PF: Ryan Anderson
PF/C: Draymond Green

I love the Rodney Hood pick. Not sure about Dray being a full time center without a defensive upgrade at the 4.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Who on August 03, 2016, 04:23:03 PM
Really like the two combo forwards I'm going to start at the 3 and 4 in Aaron Gordon and Jabari Parker. I think both have super star upside. Gordon can take the more difficult match up on defense and help cover up for Jabari's d.

Thoughts on my team so far? I have 3 4ths tomorrow, that should help fill out my roster.

Fun group. I like the interchangeability of those 3 guys -- Klay, Jabari and A.Gordon.

They mesh nicely together. Klay as the sharpshooter and scorer. Jabari offers more of an isolation threat when needed. More of a physical power 3. Aaron Gordon is a glue guy forward who does all the other things. One of the top young defensive players in the league. I think they will combine very well with one another.
Thanks man. TP!

I have 3 picks tomorrow. What areas do you think I should target?

I think you can put just about anything next to those guys.

You could be a halfcourt team. Or you could be a run and gun team. They can do both.

You can have a post-up center. Or a defensive center. Either will work well here.

Maybe avoid a high usage PG. Just to make sure Jabari and Klay get their touches. But almost all those PGs are off the board already anyway.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: nickagneta on August 03, 2016, 04:27:36 PM
OKC Thunder

PG: Jeff Teague
SG: Rodney Hood
SF:
PF: Ryan Anderson
PF/C: Draymond Green
Dray will be playing a lot of time at the 4. Anderson is probably my sixth man, if my draft board goes as planned

I love the Rodney Hood pick. Not sure about Dray being a full time center without a defensive upgrade at the 4.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: KGs Knee on August 03, 2016, 04:32:22 PM
C: Jonas Valanciunas
F: Karl-Anthony Towns
F:
G: Khris Middleton
G:

Solid young team with talent. I'm probably not doing a good service for Towns putting him at PF, but Valanciunas' rebounding, toughness and physicality is too much to pass.
I think going big like that in today's day and age is a bad idea. I guess if everyone in your lineup besides Val can shoot it will be ok. But having two 7 footers can really gum up spacing and make you slow on close outs imo.

Watching the Celtics last year really reinforced my feeling that teams are most successful when they have no more than one guy who can't shoot/create off the dribble on the floor at a time.

While I'm not beholden to any specific style, I do prefer the "twin towers" style the most.  But this isn't to say that going with just a single traditional big is a bad idea, it's obviously not.

But I do disagree that going big is a bad idea.  I think with so many teams going smaller and smaller now is the perfect time to zig while everyone else zags.  Dominate the paint, dominate the glass, and force the other team to adjust.  It takes the right pairing, but if done properly is the perfect foil to small ball.

For the record, I love the JVal-KAT duo, that is going to be hard to match up with for most teams.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Evantime34 on August 03, 2016, 04:41:32 PM
Really like the two combo forwards I'm going to start at the 3 and 4 in Aaron Gordon and Jabari Parker. I think both have super star upside. Gordon can take the more difficult match up on defense and help cover up for Jabari's d.

Thoughts on my team so far? I have 3 4ths tomorrow, that should help fill out my roster.

Fun group. I like the interchangeability of those 3 guys -- Klay, Jabari and A.Gordon.

They mesh nicely together. Klay as the sharpshooter and scorer. Jabari offers more of an isolation threat when needed. More of a physical power 3. Aaron Gordon is a glue guy forward who does all the other things. One of the top young defensive players in the league. I think they will combine very well with one another.
Thanks man. TP!

I have 3 picks tomorrow. What areas do you think I should target?

I think you can put just about anything next to those guys.

You could be a halfcourt team. Or you could be a run and gun team. They can do both.

You can have a post-up center. Or a defensive center. Either will work well here.

Maybe avoid a high usage PG. Just to make sure Jabari and Klay get their touches. But almost all those PGs are off the board already anyway.
I was considering drafting a player who defends one's but is more of a floor spacer on offense rather than a ball dominant guy. I'm just worried that if I add an off ball guy at the one that my team won't be able to run our offense on O.

Agree the ball dominant PG are mostly gone.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: airbelinelli on August 03, 2016, 04:43:20 PM
Looking to move into the 4th. Have a 5th and will give a 10th for an end of draft pick (12-13)
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Evantime34 on August 03, 2016, 04:46:07 PM
C: Jonas Valanciunas
F: Karl-Anthony Towns
F:
G: Khris Middleton
G:

Solid young team with talent. I'm probably not doing a good service for Towns putting him at PF, but Valanciunas' rebounding, toughness and physicality is too much to pass.
I think going big like that in today's day and age is a bad idea. I guess if everyone in your lineup besides Val can shoot it will be ok. But having two 7 footers can really gum up spacing and make you slow on close outs imo.

Watching the Celtics last year really reinforced my feeling that teams are most successful when they have no more than one guy who can't shoot/create off the dribble on the floor at a time.

While I'm not beholden to any specific style, I do prefer the "twin towers" style the most.  But this isn't to say that going with just a single traditional big is a bad idea, it's obviously not.

But I do disagree that going big is a bad idea.  I think with so many teams going smaller and smaller now is the perfect time to zig while everyone else zags.  Dominate the paint, dominate the glass, and force the other team to adjust.  It takes the right pairing, but if done properly is the perfect foil to small ball.

For the record, I love the JVal-KAT duo, that is going to be hard to match up with for most teams.
Maybe the Warriors have shifted my view, but I think in today's league it is much easier for a small team to handle bigs than for big team to play defense against smalls.

Due to the illegal defense rules allow for creative trapping, smaller teams like the Warriors can get stop post ups before they begin.

With small teams, big teams are forced to guard everyone on the perimeter, so if you have one slower player that guy can get abused in the pick and roll.

I'm very curious to see if there will be teams who try to go big and how those teams fare next year.

When a big team goes against a small team, good
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Who on August 03, 2016, 04:50:57 PM
If Smart had of dropped another 6 picks, I was liking the idea of putting him under D'Antoni

PG: Dragic
SG: Smart
SF: DeMarre Carroll
PF:
 C: Anthony Davis

I think that could have been a fun scrappy crew.

Not wholly convinced Smart was right for D'Antoni but definitely intrigued by it. Some secondary ball-handling and passing. Versatile defending. I think Smart would have liked the quick shot selection and lots of 3s. Extra rebounding. I was thinking of Landry Fields doing well under D'Antoni as well. That Smart would have some similarities to Fields as an off the ball SG when Fields had a career year under D'Antoni shooting the ball.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: KGs Knee on August 03, 2016, 04:52:15 PM
C: Jonas Valanciunas
F: Karl-Anthony Towns
F:
G: Khris Middleton
G:

Solid young team with talent. I'm probably not doing a good service for Towns putting him at PF, but Valanciunas' rebounding, toughness and physicality is too much to pass.
I think going big like that in today's day and age is a bad idea. I guess if everyone in your lineup besides Val can shoot it will be ok. But having two 7 footers can really gum up spacing and make you slow on close outs imo.

Watching the Celtics last year really reinforced my feeling that teams are most successful when they have no more than one guy who can't shoot/create off the dribble on the floor at a time.

While I'm not beholden to any specific style, I do prefer the "twin towers" style the most.  But this isn't to say that going with just a single traditional big is a bad idea, it's obviously not.

But I do disagree that going big is a bad idea.  I think with so many teams going smaller and smaller now is the perfect time to zig while everyone else zags.  Dominate the paint, dominate the glass, and force the other team to adjust.  It takes the right pairing, but if done properly is the perfect foil to small ball.

For the record, I love the JVal-KAT duo, that is going to be hard to match up with for most teams.
Maybe the Warriors have shifted my view, but I think in today's league it is much easier for a small team to handle bigs than for big team to play defense against smalls.

Due to the illegal defense rules allow for creative trapping, smaller teams like the Warriors can get stop post ups before they begin.

With small teams, big teams are forced to guard everyone on the perimeter, so if you have one slower player that guy can get abused in the pick and roll.

I'm very curious to see if there will be teams who try to go big and how those teams fare next year.

When a big team goes against a small team, good

Yeah, and I kind of hate the Warriors for it.

They're one team, with a really unique roster that can't really be duplicated.  Yet everyone is trying to, in my opinion, to their own detriment.

But that's the NBA, it's the ultimate copy cat league. 
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: KGs Knee on August 03, 2016, 04:57:14 PM
Thoughts on my current trio of Conley - Parsons - Horford?

So far, I've simply drafted BPA (per my board which is assuredly different than just about everyones- there are still 8 players left in my top 40).  But from here on out I'll need to draft for fit, as well, or make trades.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: snively on August 03, 2016, 05:13:54 PM
Thoughts on my current trio of Conley - Parsons - Horford?

So far, I've simply drafted BPA (per my board which is assuredly different than just about everyones- there are still 8 players left in my top 40).  But from here on out I'll need to draft for fit, as well, or make trades.

Hard to ask for a steadier 2-way duo than Conley and Horford. Excellent defenders, efficient and versatile offensive players who rarely turn it over.

Then a supremely versatile wing in Parsons who will work really well with those two offensively. Sort of 2004 Pistons model you're working towards.

Problems I'd want to address are rebounding and defensive toughness.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: KGs Knee on August 03, 2016, 05:26:19 PM
Thoughts on my current trio of Conley - Parsons - Horford?

So far, I've simply drafted BPA (per my board which is assuredly different than just about everyones- there are still 8 players left in my top 40).  But from here on out I'll need to draft for fit, as well, or make trades.

Hard to ask for a steadier 2-way duo than Conley and Horford. Excellent defenders, efficient and versatile offensive players who rarely turn it over.

Then a supremely versatile wing in Parsons who will work really well with those two offensively. Sort of 2004 Pistons model you're working towards.

Problems I'd want to address are rebounding and defensive toughness.

Yeah, I agree rebounding is an area I'll need to shore up before long.

I had really wanted to trade up for JVal, but alas, he was taken right as I was about to throw out what probably was a stupid offer.  Probably got saved a bit there.

While personally I have no issue playing Horford at either C or PF, I gather that's not a popular opinion.

Anyways, TP for the feedback!
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Rondo2287 on August 03, 2016, 05:37:40 PM
Thoughts on Holiday- Carmelo- Aldridge?
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on August 03, 2016, 06:54:11 PM
Thoughts on my current trio of Conley - Parsons - Horford?

So far, I've simply drafted BPA (per my board which is assuredly different than just about everyones- there are still 8 players left in my top 40).  But from here on out I'll need to draft for fit, as well, or make trades.

I agree with Snively, Horford and Conley are steady great players that will give you a steady supply of defense and good decisions on the court.

Chandler Parsons has tailed off a bit, but he is coming off an injury. He seems to be a good fit with these three. I question the scoring though. As good as Conley and Horford is, they are not high volume, "give the ball to me" scorers. I'm not sure if Parsons is that guy as well, and he's on a downspin.

Are those positions the next in line for the next couple of rounds?
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on August 03, 2016, 06:55:53 PM
Thoughts on Holiday- Carmelo- Aldridge?

Plenty of firepower wiht LMA and Melo on the team. Jrue adds some third option scoring if needed, a good ball handler to bring the ball to either two, and stabilizes the defense at the PG spot.

Defensively though, Melo and LMA aren't the quickest, and they may get exposed vs quicker opposition.

Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: KGs Knee on August 03, 2016, 07:12:44 PM
Thoughts on Holiday- Carmelo- Aldridge?

Despite the fact that I'm not a big fan of Holiday, I think this is probably one of the better trios so far.

Do you plan on adding a center or do you plan on starting LMA there?
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: KGs Knee on August 03, 2016, 07:16:31 PM
Thoughts on my current trio of Conley - Parsons - Horford?

So far, I've simply drafted BPA (per my board which is assuredly different than just about everyones- there are still 8 players left in my top 40).  But from here on out I'll need to draft for fit, as well, or make trades.

I agree with Snively, Horford and Conley are steady great players that will give you a steady supply of defense and good decisions on the court.

Chandler Parsons has tailed off a bit, but he is coming off an injury. He seems to be a good fit with these three. I question the scoring though. As good as Conley and Horford is, they are not high volume, "give the ball to me" scorers. I'm not sure if Parsons is that guy as well, and he's on a downspin.

Are those positions the next in line for the next couple of rounds?

I'll admit, I'm not a huge fan of Parsons, but he is a very versatile offensive player, and I expect him to have a much better season this year in Memphis. His post ASG numbers last year were fantastic.   Over 17 ppg on 40%+ three point shooting.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Rondo2287 on August 03, 2016, 07:32:16 PM
Thoughts on Holiday- Carmelo- Aldridge?

Despite the fact that I'm not a big fan of Holiday, I think this is probably one of the better trios so far.

Do you plan on adding a center or do you plan on starting LMA there?

Honestly it will be dependent on who is available.  I think LMA at the 5 would have an advantage offensively against any center, and could defensively handle the majority. 

I think LMA at the 5 and Melo at the 4 would expose a lot of teams defensively. 
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Rondo2287 on August 03, 2016, 07:36:50 PM
Thoughts on Holiday- Carmelo- Aldridge?

Plenty of firepower wiht LMA and Melo on the team. Jrue adds some third option scoring if needed, a good ball handler to bring the ball to either two, and stabilizes the defense at the PG spot.

Defensively though, Melo and LMA aren't the quickest, and they may get exposed vs quicker opposition.

I think LMA is fine defensively, Melo is Melo.  Jrue is elite defensively.  My plan is to add defense around scorers.  Honestly not sure how Jrue slipped so far.  He was a far better PG than some picked before him and is only 26
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on August 03, 2016, 07:38:29 PM
Thoughts on Holiday- Carmelo- Aldridge?

Despite the fact that I'm not a big fan of Holiday, I think this is probably one of the better trios so far.

Do you plan on adding a center or do you plan on starting LMA there?

Honestly it will be dependent on who is available.  I think LMA at the 5 would have an advantage offensively against any center, and could defensively handle the majority. 

I think LMA at the 5 and Melo at the 4 would expose a lot of teams defensively.

Yeah. I'd go with this route. LMA is a competent enough rim protector to play C. My only concern is will LMA be able to handle physical centers like Dwight Howard without having foul trouble?
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Rondo2287 on August 03, 2016, 07:41:15 PM
Thoughts on Holiday- Carmelo- Aldridge?

Despite the fact that I'm not a big fan of Holiday, I think this is probably one of the better trios so far.

Do you plan on adding a center or do you plan on starting LMA there?

Honestly it will be dependent on who is available.  I think LMA at the 5 would have an advantage offensively against any center, and could defensively handle the majority. 

I think LMA at the 5 and Melo at the 4 would expose a lot of teams defensively.

Yeah. I'd go with this route. LMA is a competent enough rim protector to play C. My only concern is will LMA be able to handle physical centers like Dwight Howard without having foul trouble?

First, how many centers could he not handle?  Maybe 5 out of 30 starting cemters?  Second how many of hose 5 could handle his offensive game off the dribble/ midrange away from the basket
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: KGs Knee on August 03, 2016, 07:53:20 PM
Thoughts on Holiday- Carmelo- Aldridge?

Despite the fact that I'm not a big fan of Holiday, I think this is probably one of the better trios so far.

Do you plan on adding a center or do you plan on starting LMA there?

Honestly it will be dependent on who is available.  I think LMA at the 5 would have an advantage offensively against any center, and could defensively handle the majority. 

I think LMA at the 5 and Melo at the 4 would expose a lot of teams defensively.

Yeah. I'd go with this route. LMA is a competent enough rim protector to play C. My only concern is will LMA be able to handle physical centers like Dwight Howard without having foul trouble?

First, how many centers could he not handle?  Maybe 5 out of 30 starting cemters?  Second how many of hose 5 could handle his offensive game off the dribble/ midrange away from the basket

Well, FWIW, LMA's team have made a pretty concerted effort to avoid playing him at the 5 pretty much his entire career.  Although that seems more due to his lack of desire to play the position.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Rondo2287 on August 03, 2016, 07:56:35 PM
Thoughts on Holiday- Carmelo- Aldridge?

Despite the fact that I'm not a big fan of Holiday, I think this is probably one of the better trios so far.

Do you plan on adding a center or do you plan on starting LMA there?

Honestly it will be dependent on who is available.  I think LMA at the 5 would have an advantage offensively against any center, and could defensively handle the majority. 

I think LMA at the 5 and Melo at the 4 would expose a lot of teams defensively.

Yeah. I'd go with this route. LMA is a competent enough rim protector to play C. My only concern is will LMA be able to handle physical centers like Dwight Howard without having foul trouble?

First, how many centers could he not handle?  Maybe 5 out of 30 starting cemters?  Second how many of hose 5 could handle his offensive game off the dribble/ midrange away from the basket

Well, FWIW, LMA's team have made a pretty concerted effort to avoid playing him at the 5 pretty much his entire career.  Although that seems more due to his lack of desire to play the position.

I know, KG also didn't want to play the 5 for the celts.  Was much more effective when he played there though
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: snively on August 03, 2016, 07:57:58 PM
Thoughts on Holiday- Carmelo- Aldridge?

Despite the fact that I'm not a big fan of Holiday, I think this is probably one of the better trios so far.

Do you plan on adding a center or do you plan on starting LMA there?

Honestly it will be dependent on who is available.  I think LMA at the 5 would have an advantage offensively against any center, and could defensively handle the majority. 

I think LMA at the 5 and Melo at the 4 would expose a lot of teams defensively.

Yeah. I'd go with this route. LMA is a competent enough rim protector to play C. My only concern is will LMA be able to handle physical centers like Dwight Howard without having foul trouble?

First, how many centers could he not handle?  Maybe 5 out of 30 starting cemters?  Second how many of hose 5 could handle his offensive game off the dribble/ midrange away from the basket

LMA at the 5 defensively is less about individual defensive match-ups than team D. He's just not the impact defender that you want at the 5 - not a big time deterrent at the rim, not a big hustle guy, not super physical. Good rebounder and mobile so he's not a liability, but playing him at the 5 puts pressure on you to fill the rest of the roster with high intensity defenders if you want to field a strong defensive squad.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Rondo2287 on August 03, 2016, 08:03:11 PM
Thoughts on Holiday- Carmelo- Aldridge?

Despite the fact that I'm not a big fan of Holiday, I think this is probably one of the better trios so far.

Do you plan on adding a center or do you plan on starting LMA there?

Honestly it will be dependent on who is available.  I think LMA at the 5 would have an advantage offensively against any center, and could defensively handle the majority. 

I think LMA at the 5 and Melo at the 4 would expose a lot of teams defensively.

Yeah. I'd go with this route. LMA is a competent enough rim protector to play C. My only concern is will LMA be able to handle physical centers like Dwight Howard without having foul trouble?

First, how many centers could he not handle?  Maybe 5 out of 30 starting cemters?  Second how many of hose 5 could handle his offensive game off the dribble/ midrange away from the basket

LMA at the 5 defensively is less about individual defensive match-ups than team D. He's just not the impact defender that you want at the 5 - not a big time deterrent at the rim, not a big hustle guy, not super physical. Good rebounder and mobile so he's not a liability, but playing him at the 5 puts pressure on you to fill the rest of the roster with high intensity defenders if you want to field a strong defensive squad.

That's fair, but Jrue is part of that with having an elite perimeter defender
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on August 03, 2016, 08:08:43 PM
Thoughts on Holiday- Carmelo- Aldridge?

Despite the fact that I'm not a big fan of Holiday, I think this is probably one of the better trios so far.

Do you plan on adding a center or do you plan on starting LMA there?

Honestly it will be dependent on who is available.  I think LMA at the 5 would have an advantage offensively against any center, and could defensively handle the majority. 

I think LMA at the 5 and Melo at the 4 would expose a lot of teams defensively.

Yeah. I'd go with this route. LMA is a competent enough rim protector to play C. My only concern is will LMA be able to handle physical centers like Dwight Howard without having foul trouble?

First, how many centers could he not handle?  Maybe 5 out of 30 starting cemters?  Second how many of hose 5 could handle his offensive game off the dribble/ midrange away from the basket

It's not just defending the Centers one on one, it's all the stuff.

Not blowing my own horn here, but Jonas Valanciunas is a bruising, tough Center. Yes, he may not have the quick foot speed to defend LMA, but for every missed shot, you're going to expect LMA trying to fight J-Val on the paint for positioning, that's going to be tough, and taxing for him.

It will be physically demanding for Aldridge to go against the likes of Dwight Howard, DeAndre Jordan, Hassan Whiteside and I count a few more. He does have the size, and a big advantage offensively vs those guys, which is why it's not bad to lean towards playing him at Center. I'm just saying that could be the only set back.

Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on August 03, 2016, 08:11:17 PM
OKC Thunder

PG: Jeff Teague
SG: Rodney Hood
SF:
PF: Ryan Anderson
PF/C: Draymond Green

A lot of shooting and spacing on this team, perfect for a Teague-Green pick and roll.

But can Draymond go full-time Center for the rest of the games? I get playing him on small ball lineup spurts, but I'm not sure he's a capable 30+ minutes a game at C exclusive.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Evantime34 on August 03, 2016, 08:21:27 PM
OKC Thunder

PG: Jeff Teague
SG: Rodney Hood
SF:
PF: Ryan Anderson
PF/C: Draymond Green

A lot of shooting and spacing on this team, perfect for a Teague-Green pick and roll.

But can Draymond go full-time Center for the rest of the games? I get playing him on small ball lineup spurts, but I'm not sure he's a capable 30+ minutes a game at C exclusive.
I think he could get a center in the next 2-4 rounds play him 20 minutes a game and that issue is solved. I agree that 30+ minutes a game over the course of the season would cause him to break down.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: The Walker Wiggle on August 03, 2016, 09:22:33 PM
Pretend Sam Hinkie's 2016-17 Philadelphia 76ers:

#PointGiannis
SG
SF Danilo Gallinari
PF
C Nerlens Noel

For those of you wondering, my guys NEARLY cover the full 22'9" to the three point arc. We've got 7'1", 7'3", and 7'4" wingspans. Thoughts? I'm happy to return the favor.

(http://i.amz.mshcdn.com/PZq8lE1FEURj8oAGwamc25BfWgs=/950x534/2015%2F09%2F13%2Ffa%2FAP_57158292.c4792.jpg)
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: nickagneta on August 03, 2016, 09:24:59 PM
OKC Thunder

PG: Jeff Teague
SG: Rodney Hood
SF:
PF: Ryan Anderson
PF/C: Draymond Green

A lot of shooting and spacing on this team, perfect for a Teague-Green pick and roll.

But can Draymond go full-time Center for the rest of the games? I get playing him on small ball lineup spurts, but I'm not sure he's a capable 30+ minutes a game at C exclusive.
I think he could get a center in the next 2-4 rounds play him 20 minutes a game and that issue is solved. I agree that 30+ minutes a game over the course of the season would cause him to break down.
As I stated earlier. Its most likely that Anderson ends up being my sixth man and Dray starts at the four and plays minutes there. But I only have 4 guys for a five man sport so I just listed it that way. With another wing, this would be my small ball lineup, but it won't be my starting lineup.

I took Anderson because I loved him as a space making PF in a small ball lineup and loved that he could give my bench a high scoring threat that can shoot the three. I envision Dray taking on a larger scoring role on a regular basis than the 3rd option he is with the real life Warriors. Anderson being able to bring 17 PPG off the bench is huge for my offense
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: The Walker Wiggle on August 03, 2016, 10:41:39 PM
Marcus smart.
I like this pick. He can take pressure off of Steph on defense.

Smart is awesome. Does so much to help his teammates on D.

Brook Lopez too. Beef up the perimeter D to limit how much is asked of Brook on D.

Also belatedly, jealous of the Smart pick. I'm expecting a big leap from Marcus this season and would've loved to pair him with Giannis in the backcourt.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: max215 on August 03, 2016, 10:53:54 PM
George Hill
Oladipo
Hayward
PF
Marc Gasol

We might lack superstar talent, but that's four high quality two-way players.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Gainesville Celtic on August 03, 2016, 10:56:04 PM
Kemba Walker
Some guy
Another guy
Derrick Favors
One more guy

what we lack in overall talent we make up for in guys named Kemba and Derrick.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: airbelinelli on August 03, 2016, 11:30:56 PM
PG: Eric Bledsoe
SG: Bradley Beal
SF: Justice Winslow/ Brandon Ingram
PF: ;)
C: Myles Turner

Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: airbelinelli on August 03, 2016, 11:32:30 PM
Kemba Walker
Some guy
Another guy
Derrick Favors
One more guy

what we lack in overall talent we make up for in guys named Kemba and Derrick.

I love those two together, but I think overall youre lacking in some talent. You need some BPA picks in the next two rounds that also fit in their roles to ensure your team is still competitive.

There are lots of guys still available and you have the picks, just seal the deal with your starting 5 and you're good.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: airbelinelli on August 03, 2016, 11:33:33 PM
George Hill
Oladipo
Hayward
PF
Marc Gasol

We might lack superstar talent, but that's four high quality two-way players.

Absolutley love it. I dont think marcs injuries will affect him past this year, and the rest of the team fits pretty well. One thing you're missing is some shooting. Get that and were jiving
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Who on August 04, 2016, 07:07:40 AM
Houston Rockets

C: Anthony Davis
PF: Nikola Mirotic
SF: DeMarre Carroll
SG:
PG: Goran Dragic

Mike D'Antoni as head coach. Run and gun basketball.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Rondo2287 on August 04, 2016, 07:49:15 AM
Houston Rockets

C: Anthony Davis
PF: Nikola Mirotic
SF: DeMarre Carroll
SG:
PG: Goran Dragic

Mike D'Antoni as head coach. Run and gun basketball.

Love this team so far.  It would be awesome seeing what Davis can do in this system
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Kane3387 on August 04, 2016, 09:59:34 AM
Cleveland Cavaliers

C:
PF: Serge Ibaka
SF:
SG: Brandon Knight
PG: Andre Igoudala
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Gainesville Celtic on August 04, 2016, 10:02:30 AM
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Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: KGs Knee on August 04, 2016, 10:03:45 AM
Cleveland Cavaliers

C:
PF: Serge Ibaka
SF:
SG: Brandon Knight
PG: Andre Igoudala


Interesting that you chose to list Iggy as the PG and Knight as the SG.

But I guess they're probably interchangeable.  Iggy takes the tougher defensive assignment, and both share the ball handling duties.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Evantime34 on August 04, 2016, 10:08:37 AM
Please take a moment to check the roster thread, if I don't have all your players down, let me know.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on August 04, 2016, 10:20:19 AM
Cleveland Cavaliers

C:
PF: Serge Ibaka
SF:
SG: Brandon Knight
PG: Andre Igoudala


Interesting that you chose to list Iggy as the PG and Knight as the SG.

But I guess they're probably interchangeable.  Iggy takes the tougher defensive assignment, and both share the ball handling duties.

Yeah, I think Iggy can be slotted at SG but still be the main ball handler though. It's really just about semantics here, but I see the logic in it.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: KGs Knee on August 04, 2016, 10:30:31 AM
Cleveland Cavaliers

C:
PF: Serge Ibaka
SF:
SG: Brandon Knight
PG: Andre Igoudala


Interesting that you chose to list Iggy as the PG and Knight as the SG.

But I guess they're probably interchangeable.  Iggy takes the tougher defensive assignment, and both share the ball handling duties.

Yeah, I think Iggy can be slotted at SG but still be the main ball handler though. It's really just about semantics here, but I see the logic in it.

Yeah, I would think Knight brings the ball up the court but Iggy runs the half court offense.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Who on August 04, 2016, 10:42:04 AM
I really like the chemistry between B.Knight and Iggy. I think that will work really well.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: BigAlTheFuture on August 04, 2016, 10:56:52 AM
PHX Suns

PG: Russell Westbrook
SG: TBD
SF: Trevor Ariza
PF: Chris Bosh
C: Tristan Thompson

Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: snively on August 04, 2016, 11:46:33 AM
PHX Suns

PG: Russell Westbrook
SG: TBD
SF: Trevor Ariza
PF: Chris Bosh
C: Tristan Thompson



That Bosh pick was pretty ballsy. Tremendous combination of high-end star and roleplayer talent if he's healthy.

Even without him, I think you are looking like a decent imitation of the Wizards LeBron team with AB and Jae as support pieces.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on August 04, 2016, 11:47:31 AM
PHX Suns

PG: Russell Westbrook
SG: TBD
SF: Trevor Ariza
PF: Chris Bosh
C: Tristan Thompson

Chris Bosh playing will make this one of the favorites. But I think it will contend for a Playoff spot if he isn't. There's plenty of defense here, and Rus is a stud.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: KGs Knee on August 04, 2016, 12:18:43 PM
PHX Suns

PG: Russell Westbrook
SG: TBD
SF: Trevor Ariza
PF: Chris Bosh
C: Tristan Thompson

Chris Bosh playing will make this one of the favorites. But I think it will contend for a Playoff spot if he isn't. There's plenty of defense here, and Rus is a stud.

Ugh, I hope this isn't going to make anyone angry, but I'm considering Bosh as "out" for this draft. There's zero credible evidence I have seen that suggest he will actually ever play again. Wasn't even on my draft board.

I know he wants to, but that doesn't mean anyone will let him.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: wdleehi on August 04, 2016, 12:21:21 PM
PHX Suns

PG: Russell Westbrook
SG: TBD
SF: Trevor Ariza
PF: Chris Bosh
C: Tristan Thompson

Chris Bosh playing will make this one of the favorites. But I think it will contend for a Playoff spot if he isn't. There's plenty of defense here, and Rus is a stud.

Ugh, I hope this isn't going to make anyone angry, but I'm considering Bosh as "out" for this draft. There's zero credible evidence I have seen that suggest he will actually ever play again. Wasn't even on my draft board.

I know he wants to, but that doesn't mean anyone will let him.

I agree.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on August 04, 2016, 12:21:51 PM
PHX Suns

PG: Russell Westbrook
SG: TBD
SF: Trevor Ariza
PF: Chris Bosh
C: Tristan Thompson

Chris Bosh playing will make this one of the favorites. But I think it will contend for a Playoff spot if he isn't. There's plenty of defense here, and Rus is a stud.

Ugh, I hope this isn't going to make anyone angry, but I'm considering Bosh as "out" for this draft. There's zero credible evidence I have seen that suggest he will actually ever play again. Wasn't even on my draft board.

I know he wants to, but that doesn't mean anyone will let him.

To be fair, I am too.

But Rus, TT and Ariza make for a competent defensive team. If BATF can get a competent 2nd scorer next to them, they could make some noise.

Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: KGs Knee on August 04, 2016, 12:26:30 PM
PHX Suns

PG: Russell Westbrook
SG: TBD
SF: Trevor Ariza
PF: Chris Bosh
C: Tristan Thompson

Chris Bosh playing will make this one of the favorites. But I think it will contend for a Playoff spot if he isn't. There's plenty of defense here, and Rus is a stud.

Ugh, I hope this isn't going to make anyone angry, but I'm considering Bosh as "out" for this draft. There's zero credible evidence I have seen that suggest he will actually ever play again. Wasn't even on my draft board.

I know he wants to, but that doesn't mean anyone will let him.

To be fair, I am too.

But Rus, TT and Ariza make for a competent defensive team. If BATF can get a competent 2nd scorer next to them, they could make some noise.



Yeah, love the Ariza pick, I'm obviously a huge fan. Anyone in the league that shall not be mentioned can attest.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Celtic Fan Forever on August 04, 2016, 12:45:56 PM
C: Nikola Jokic
F:
F: Paul George
G: Kent Bazemore
G: Patrick Beverley


Thoughts? Comments? Criticisms?
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: KGs Knee on August 04, 2016, 12:58:01 PM
C: Nikola Jokic
F:
F: Paul George
G: Kent Bazemore
G: Patrick Beverley


Thoughts? Comments? Criticisms?

This is going to be a fantastic defensive team. But it will need to be, not a whole of of offensive creators outside of PG13. Points will be tough to come by I suspect.

On a side note, I was totally bummed you picked Jokic. He was very high on my draft board, advanced stats love him.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Evantime34 on August 04, 2016, 01:03:46 PM
Thoughts on my starting unit?
Kris Dunn
Klay Thompson
Aaron Gordon
Jabari Parker
Joakim Noah

Other than Parker, I think all my starters are plus defenders. My big question is whether Parker, Gordon and Dunn can shoot the 3.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on August 04, 2016, 01:05:50 PM
I'm all aboard the Sell Derrick Rose train!

Just to remind everyone that he's still capable of these kind of games.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V76fOxfsCZo
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Celtic Fan Forever on August 04, 2016, 01:08:01 PM
Thoughts on my starting unit?
Kris Dunn
Klay Thompson
Aaron Gordon
Jabari Parker
Joakim Noah

Other than Parker, I think all my starters are plus defenders. My big question is whether Parker, Gordon and Dunn can shoot the 3.

I like what you've got so far but share the same concern. I'd consider adding a 3 and D guy and bringing in Parker as instant offense off the bench, as I think Gordon is better off at the 4. Could be a great defensive unit.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: nickagneta on August 04, 2016, 01:08:24 PM
Looking to get into the late 4th. Have 5.26 and will bump you up in other rounds or send you another pick. PM me
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: mkogav on August 04, 2016, 01:11:00 PM
C: Nikola Jokic
F:
F: Paul George
G: Kent Bazemore
G: Patrick Beverley


Thoughts? Comments? Criticisms?

This is going to be a fantastic defensive team. But it will need to be, not a whole of of offensive creators outside of PG13. Points will be tough to come by I suspect.

On a side note, I was totally bummed you picked Jokic. He was very high on my draft board, advanced stats love him.

As the season progressed, DEN started running their offence through Big Honey in the high post. His shooting ability and amazing passing skillz opened up a new world of offense for the Nuggets.

Don't take my word for it. There are far more reprutable sourses available

Building The Nuggets' Frontcourt Around Nikola Jokic  (http://basketball.realgm.com/analysis/241340/Building-The-Nuggets-Frontcourt-Around-Nikola-Jokic)

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Jokic has the passing chops to not only survive, but thrive in this setting, as evidenced by the fact that the rookie big is currently fifth in assist percentage (min. 1,000 minutes, 6-10 or taller) behind the likes of Blake Griffin, the Gasol brothers and a Greek, basketball destroying machine in Milwaukee

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When Jokic signed a four-year deal after a relatively non-descript summer league, it rightfully flew under the radar (though props to the Denver Stiffs DKC's mkogav for noting his potential way back in July December of 2014).


Nikola Jokic’s future is at power forward (http://milehighsports.com/nikola-jokics-future-is-at-power-forward/)

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Very few players, frontcourt or backcourt, have the shooting, vision and basketball IQ that Jokic brings to the table. Having another non-shooter in Faried next to Emmanuel Mudiay does nothing but clog the lane. Bringing in Jokic instead provides a high post playmaker and an extra shooter. This should un-clog the lane that has been difficult for Mudiay to navigate thus far, as well as take a bit of pressure off of the young point guard.

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Jokic already is shooting 33 percent from the three-point line and has a solid midrange floater from the center of the court. He also has shown the Dirk-one-foot-step-back shot from the baseline to complement his diverse post game.

Mk
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on August 04, 2016, 01:13:08 PM
Thoughts on my starting unit?
Kris Dunn
Klay Thompson
Aaron Gordon
Jabari Parker
Joakim Noah

Other than Parker, I think all my starters are plus defenders. My big question is whether Parker, Gordon and Dunn can shoot the 3.

Agreed on you sentiments. Might I add that we don't know how efficient can Kris Dunn be in his rookie year, so it's a very tricky thing to judge at this point.

Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Evantime34 on August 04, 2016, 01:15:12 PM
C: Nikola Jokic
F:
F: Paul George
G: Kent Bazemore
G: Patrick Beverley


Thoughts? Comments? Criticisms?
Really like the defense, but my concern is shot creation. The Indiana offense really stalled last year because George was the only one who could consistently create. Jokic will help, since you can run the offense through him, but I would like to see you add another play maker. Either a guy who can create his own shot or a guy who can create for others (my preference)
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: snively on August 04, 2016, 01:17:29 PM
Thoughts on my starting unit?
Kris Dunn
Klay Thompson
Aaron Gordon
Jabari Parker
Joakim Noah

Other than Parker, I think all my starters are plus defenders. My big question is whether Parker, Gordon and Dunn can shoot the 3.

Reminds me of the pre-Shaq Miami team with D-Wade, Odom, Butler as the young guns and Eddie Jones and Brian Grant as the veteran cogs.

Great young foundation that can compete now, but just a little too young to contend.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: snively on August 04, 2016, 01:19:12 PM
C: Nikola Jokic
F:
F: Paul George
G: Kent Bazemore
G: Patrick Beverley


Thoughts? Comments? Criticisms?
Really like the defense, but my concern is shot creation. The Indiana offense really stalled last year because George was the only one who could consistently create. Jokic will help, since you can run the offense through him, but I would like to see you add another play maker. Either a guy who can create his own shot or a guy who can create for others (my preference)

Yep - that group is begging for a dynamic 6th man in the backcourt.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Evantime34 on August 04, 2016, 01:19:53 PM
Thoughts on my starting unit?
Kris Dunn
Klay Thompson
Aaron Gordon
Jabari Parker
Joakim Noah

Other than Parker, I think all my starters are plus defenders. My big question is whether Parker, Gordon and Dunn can shoot the 3.

Agreed on you sentiments. Might I add that we don't know how efficient can Kris Dunn be in his rookie year, so it's a very tricky thing to judge at this point.
Yeah, agreed on Dunn. I would have liked a pg with more experience but I think Dunn is the best available. Plus, he's so big that if I bring in another pg he can give me minutes at the 2.

Even though we do our judging after everyone is selected, it will be hard to really get an accurate read on my team until the season starts. I think Jabari and Gordon are due for break out years and will be the best player on both their respective teams.

Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on August 04, 2016, 01:23:32 PM
From CBHoopsHype

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Rumor has it that the CB Utah Jazz have put C Jonas Valanciunas on the trading block. According to a reliable source, the Jazz are "not really wanting to part ways with the big Lithuanian, but would be willing to trade him if any proposed moves would make sense, and/or right price." Interesting development that will be followed up ASAP.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Evantime34 on August 04, 2016, 01:23:32 PM
Thoughts on my starting unit?
Kris Dunn
Klay Thompson
Aaron Gordon
Jabari Parker
Joakim Noah

Other than Parker, I think all my starters are plus defenders. My big question is whether Parker, Gordon and Dunn can shoot the 3.

Reminds me of the pre-Shaq Miami team with D-Wade, Odom, Butler as the young guns and Eddie Jones and Brian Grant as the veteran cogs.

Great young foundation that can compete now, but just a little too young to contend.
I loved that team. I'm going to try to add some more vets in the next few rounds. In general I don't think this team will get voted highly when we finish drafting, but I do think it will be a team that gets a lot of credit once the season plays out.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Bucketgetter on August 04, 2016, 01:26:43 PM
PG - Damian Lillard
SG - Kentavious Caldwell-Pope
SF - Kawhi Leonard
PF - Marvin Williams
C - TBD

Any thoughts on my starting 4 or ideas on the center spot? I was going for Steven Adams but he went two spots ahead of me.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Evantime34 on August 04, 2016, 01:29:21 PM
PG - Damian Lillard
SG - Kentavious Caldwell-Pope
SF - Kawhi Leonard
PF - Marvin Williams
C - TBD

Any thoughts on my starting 4 or ideas on the center spot? I was going for Steven Adams but he went two spots ahead of me.
Love that team. Every guy except Lillard is a plus defender who can shoot. I'd add the best mobile shot blocker available and your lineup is ready to go.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Who on August 04, 2016, 01:34:32 PM
Thoughts on my starting unit?
Kris Dunn
Klay Thompson
Aaron Gordon
Jabari Parker
Joakim Noah

Other than Parker, I think all my starters are plus defenders. My big question is whether Parker, Gordon and Dunn can shoot the 3.

Love Kris Dunn. Hugely talented player.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on August 04, 2016, 01:38:44 PM
Here's the Utah Jazz as it stands right now.

C: Jonas Valanciunas
F: Karl-Anthony Towns
F:
G: Khris Middleton
G: Derrick Rose

Have at it, folks. I'd really appreciate the feedback and will try to return the favor.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: wdleehi on August 04, 2016, 01:42:43 PM
Here's the Utah Jazz as it stands right now.

C: Jonas Valanciunas
F: Karl-Anthony Towns
F:
G: Khris Middleton
G: Derrick Rose

Have at it, folks. I'd really appreciate the feedback and will try to return the favor.


Looks like the start of a playoff team in a vacuum. 
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: wdleehi on August 04, 2016, 01:43:39 PM
Knicks of now

PG Irving
SG TBA
SF TBA
PF Marcus Morris
C  Drummond



Two picks tomorrow. 
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on August 04, 2016, 01:44:26 PM
Here's the Utah Jazz as it stands right now.

C: Jonas Valanciunas
F: Karl-Anthony Towns
F:
G: Khris Middleton
G: Derrick Rose

Have at it, folks. I'd really appreciate the feedback and will try to return the favor.


Looks like the start of a playoff team in a vacuum.

You mean this is the year I finally make the Playoffs?
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Bucketgetter on August 04, 2016, 01:46:29 PM
Here's the Utah Jazz as it stands right now.

C: Jonas Valanciunas
F: Karl-Anthony Towns
F:
G: Khris Middleton
G: Derrick Rose

Have at it, folks. I'd really appreciate the feedback and will try to return the favor.
If D Rose can't succeed with that supporting cast around him, he can't succeed with anything. It's a championship level team if you believe in Rose.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: snively on August 04, 2016, 01:48:38 PM
Knicks select Marcus Morris



[dang] you. I really thought he was going to make it to me this round.

Baffled his brother went before him, Marcus is clearly the better player.

Just to explain my thought process in preferring Markieff.

Marcus had a strong year for Detroit while Markieff was stinking it up early for Phoenix, but I think Markieff has been the more talented brother with better peak production for their entire careers.

Marcus smoother on the perimeter, but softer in the paint and on the boards and thus stuck with more of the downsides of the 3/4 tweener than Kieff, who has been able to hack it as a pure 4.

The stats bear this out - Kieff is the more prolific scorer, the better rebounder and the better defender. And once he got out of Phoenix (where he was dogging it) and got settled in Washington, he immediately snapped out of his dreadful offensive funk (career low .46TS%) and returned to peak form.

His last 20 games to finish out the season with Washington: 27 mpg, 14/6 on 49/37/71 shooting splits (also 2nd best in the rotation after Wall in terms of raw plus/minus). Per 36, that's 18/8 on 55+ TS%, on par with his excellent work with Phoenix the prior two years.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on August 04, 2016, 01:55:03 PM
Knicks of now

PG Irving
SG TBA
SF TBA
PF Marcus Morris
C  Drummond



Two picks tomorrow.

Darn. I love how Kyrie fits with those two.

There's good enough defense on the front court, and good chemistry in the process. Rebounding should not be a concern with Drummond. And when needed, Kyrie can take over the offense.

It's a core of a complete looking team.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: The Rondo Show on August 04, 2016, 02:14:11 PM
PG:
SG: Fournier
SF:
PF: Simmons
C: Whiteside

Picking in the back-middle of the first is very difficult. Hoping to upgrade my team a bit. Let me know.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on August 04, 2016, 02:20:14 PM
PG:
SG: Fournier
SF:
PF: Simmons
C: Whiteside

Picking in the back-middle of the first is very difficult. Hoping to upgrade my team a bit. Let me know.

It's looking like a decent trio, TRS, but there's not a lot of star power (if I may) here at the moment.

The next couple of rounds is going to be tricky for you. I'd like to see how the team will shape up, as there are some holes you have to fill here.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Celtic Fan Forever on August 04, 2016, 02:46:25 PM
Devin Booker was an amazing pick at this point, I was trying to trade up to get him.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: airbelinelli on August 04, 2016, 03:05:26 PM
PG: Eric Bledsoe
SG: Bradley Beal
SF: Justice Winslow/ Brandon Ingram
PF:
C: Myles Turner/ Steven Adams

I moved back twice so my high end isn't quite there but I like the fit and versatility. I need the right power forward but would love some feedback/thoughts
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on August 04, 2016, 03:14:27 PM
PG: Eric Bledsoe
SG: Bradley Beal
SF: Justice Winslow/ Brandon Ingram
PF:
C: Myles Turner/ Steven Adams

I moved back twice so my high end isn't quite there but I like the fit and versatility. I need the right power forward but would love some feedback/thoughts

You don't want to play Myles Turner at PF? Wasn't he playing that position this year?

It's still hard for me to fathom that either Bradley Beal or Eric Bledsoe will play more that 60 games each. I can see Bledsoe having a healthy season, but not Beal. That's going to hurt.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Who on August 04, 2016, 03:20:36 PM
PG: Eric Bledsoe
SG: Bradley Beal
SF: Justice Winslow/ Brandon Ingram
PF:
C: Myles Turner/ Steven Adams

I moved back twice so my high end isn't quite there but I like the fit and versatility. I need the right power forward but would love some feedback/thoughts

You don't want to play Myles Turner at PF? Wasn't he playing that position this year?

It's still hard for me to fathom that either Bradley Beal or Eric Bledsoe will play more that 60 games each. I can see Bledsoe having a healthy season, but not Beal. That's going to hurt.

Yes, I like Myles at the PF as well. Give Adams 28-32mpg. Stagger the subs to give Turner the remaining minutes at center. Have Turner split his time (roughly 50-50) between PF and C.

I would start Turner and Adams together and bring a PF off the bench as a 6th man. Turner and Adams would give GSW a very strong defensive mindset to open up games.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: The Walker Wiggle on August 04, 2016, 03:22:58 PM
Devin Booker was an amazing pick at this point, I was trying to trade up to get him.

(https://media.giphy.com/media/3oEdv3F6gzBh8diueA/giphy.gif)

YOU were trying. I tried 4.1, I tried 4.2, I tried 4.3, I tried 4.4...
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: riah32 on August 04, 2016, 03:28:40 PM
I love the roster that I have assembled so far:
Pg: Rondo
Sg: Butler
Sf:  Harisson Barnes
Pf:
C: Rudy Gobert
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: KGs Knee on August 04, 2016, 03:39:00 PM
Charlotte after round 4:

C- Al Horford
F- Yo Momma
F- Chandler Parsons
G- Otto Porter
G- Mike Conley Jr

Thots?
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Celtic Fan Forever on August 04, 2016, 03:41:57 PM
Thoughts on adding Tyreke Evans as a 6th man? I like how he fits as some instant offense/playmaking off the bench.

Orlando after 4 rounds:

C: Nikola Jokic
F:
F: Paul George
G: Kent Bazemore
G: Patrick Beverley

6th man: Tyreke Evans

Can slide George up to the 4 and put Tyreke at the 3 for some small ball lineups.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: KGs Knee on August 04, 2016, 03:44:34 PM
Thoughts on adding Tyreke Evans as a 6th man? I like how he fits as some instant offense/playmaking off the bench.

Orlando after 4 rounds:

C: Nikola Jokic
F:
F: Paul George
G: Kent Bazemore
G: Patrick Beverley

6th man: Tyreke Evans

Can slide George up to the 4 and put Tyreke at the 3 for some small ball lineups.

Tyreke is a nice addition.  You found the additional playmaker needed to keep the offense flowing.  He's really upped his three point shooting as well, which is a great bonus.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Kane3387 on August 04, 2016, 03:47:47 PM
Cleveland Cavaliers

 C: Greg Monroe
PF: Serge Ibaka
SF:
SG: Brandon Knight
PG: Andre Igoudala
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Celtic Fan Forever on August 04, 2016, 03:47:53 PM
Charlotte after round 4:

C- Al Horford
F- Yo Momma
F- Chandler Parsons
G- Otto Porter
G- Mike Conley Jr

Thots?

I like Porter, always looked at him as more of a 3 than a 2 though. I'd definitely go after someone who can rebound at the 4 though, as I see that as your team's main weakness right now.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Celtic Fan Forever on August 04, 2016, 03:50:10 PM
Cleveland Cavaliers

 C: Greg Monroe
PF: Serge Ibaka
SF:
SG: Brandon Knight
PG: Andre Igoudala

Monroe is tremendous value at the end of the 4th. I like his fit with Ibaka too, I think they compliment each other very well as Ibaka will space the floor and play defense whereas Monroe can operate down low and control the glass.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: KGs Knee on August 04, 2016, 03:56:23 PM
Charlotte after round 4:

C- Al Horford
F- Yo Momma
F- Chandler Parsons
G- Otto Porter
G- Mike Conley Jr

Thots?

I like Porter, always looked at him as more of a 3 than a 2 though. I'd definitely go after someone who can rebound at the 4 though, as I see that as your team's main weakness right now.

Depending on who is available, Horford may be my PF.  I actually like him as a PF better, but am fine with him at C.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Rondo2287 on August 04, 2016, 04:24:17 PM
LA Lakers through 4 rounds

Jrue Holiday
Wes Matthews
Carmelo Anthony
Lamarcus Aldridge

Loving the defense I was able to add at the guard spots the past two rounds to go with Melo and LMA
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: DinoGanga on August 04, 2016, 04:49:17 PM
Wizards through four rounds

Elfrid Payton
Avery Bradley
Jae Crowder
LeBron James
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: snively on August 04, 2016, 04:54:40 PM
Charlotte after round 4:

C- Al Horford
F- Yo Momma
F- Chandler Parsons
G- Otto Porter
G- Mike Conley Jr

Thots?

A little bit lacking in explosiveness on the perimeter playing oversized like that but should help on the boards and defensively. Lots of shooting. Still on track to keep turnovers way down.

If you get a real physical force in Yo Momma's place, that should bring the starting unit together nicely.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: snively on August 04, 2016, 04:56:58 PM
Wizards through four rounds

Elfrid Payton
Avery Bradley
Jae Crowder
LeBron James

Payton's a tough fit with LBJ but the PG cupboard got raided so I'm not sure there was a better option for you there. Nice to get another ballhandler with AB and Jae's limitations in that regard.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: pearljammer10 on August 04, 2016, 05:01:14 PM
Very happy with how the Boston Celtics are turning out. Championship talent meets above average youth.

PG: Tony Parker
SG:
SF: Al Farouq Aminu
PF: Dirk Nowitzki
C:  Deandre Jordan
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: ChillyWilly on August 04, 2016, 05:03:14 PM
I get the feeling I'm building the 2011 All-Star team
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Rondo2287 on August 04, 2016, 05:03:34 PM
Wizards through four rounds

Elfrid Payton
Avery Bradley
Jae Crowder
LeBron James

I think floor spacing is going to be a real problem for this team.   Other teams can really pack the paint against Lebron
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: KGs Knee on August 04, 2016, 05:04:36 PM
New look Hornets:

C- Al Horford
F- Yo Momma
F- Chandler Parsons
G- JR Smith
G- Mike Conley Jr

Picks 5.3 and 5.25 coming up
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Gainesville Celtic on August 04, 2016, 05:05:32 PM
Interesting mix at Dallas

PG: Kemba Walker
SG:
SF: Otto Porter
PF: Derrick Favors
 C: Marcin Gortat

Size and athleticism.

thanks Who... that's the plan.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on August 04, 2016, 05:08:31 PM
Charlotte after round 4:

C- Al Horford
F- Yo Momma
F- Chandler Parsons
G- Otto Porter
G- Mike Conley Jr

Thots?

With Yo Momma at the PF spot, it should give you tremendous size on the frontcourt.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: snively on August 04, 2016, 05:12:33 PM
I get the feeling I'm building the 2011 All-Star team

Totally forgot about D-Will! Still a solid PG with his size, range, vision and handles. Glad Dino didn't grab him for the LBJ Wizards!
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: KGs Knee on August 04, 2016, 05:14:39 PM
Quote from: Yoki_IsTheName link=topic=86751.msg2153856#msg2153856

With Yo Momma at the PF spot, it should give you tremendous size on the frontcourt.

You saying yo momma a big lady, eh?

You shouldn't talk about the woman that gave birth to you like that.  :P
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Kane3387 on August 04, 2016, 05:35:19 PM
Wizards through four rounds

Elfrid Payton
Avery Bradley
Jae Crowder
LeBron James

Payton's a tough fit with LBJ but the PG cupboard got raided so I'm not sure there was a better option for you there. Nice to get another ballhandler with AB and Jae's limitations in that regard.

Lbj controls the ball so much he essentially is the PG
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Celts Fan 508 on August 04, 2016, 05:39:51 PM
Wizards through four rounds

Elfrid Payton
Avery Bradley
Jae Crowder
LeBron James

Payton's a tough fit with LBJ but the PG cupboard got raided so I'm not sure there was a better option for you there. Nice to get another ballhandler with AB and Jae's limitations in that regard.

Lbj controls the ball so much he essentially is the PG

Payton is a ball dominant no shot pg, makes it tough to pair with LBJ.  Payton might be running the second team on his team, so not sure until he is done drafting. 
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: mkogav on August 04, 2016, 05:42:22 PM
The Minnesota Timberwolves will run up the score on everyone:

Quote
PG   Isaiah Thomas
SG   J.J.Redick
SF   
PF   Kevin Love
C   
6th   Jamal Crawford

Outside of KLove locking down Curry, will they be able to stop anyone?

(http://i.giphy.com/UX6PWpbCawpeo.gif)

Mk
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Rondo2287 on August 04, 2016, 05:57:14 PM
Wizards through four rounds

Elfrid Payton
Avery Bradley
Jae Crowder
LeBron James

Payton's a tough fit with LBJ but the PG cupboard got raided so I'm not sure there was a better option for you there. Nice to get another ballhandler with AB and Jae's limitations in that regard.

Lbj controls the ball so much he essentially is the PG

Payton off the ball on offense is a liability
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: pearljammer10 on August 04, 2016, 06:02:10 PM
LA Lakers through 4 rounds

Jrue Holiday
Wes Matthews
Carmelo Anthony
Lamarcus Aldridge

Loving the defense I was able to add at the guard spots the past two rounds to go with Melo and LMA

Really like the Anothony Aldridge pairing.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: snively on August 04, 2016, 06:06:57 PM
LA Lakers through 4 rounds

Jrue Holiday
Wes Matthews
Carmelo Anthony
Lamarcus Aldridge

Loving the defense I was able to add at the guard spots the past two rounds to go with Melo and LMA

Really like the Anothony Aldridge pairing.

Should be noted that Wes Matthews isn't much defensively any more after that Achilles injury.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: KGs Knee on August 04, 2016, 06:18:55 PM
LA Lakers through 4 rounds

Jrue Holiday
Wes Matthews
Carmelo Anthony
Lamarcus Aldridge

Loving the defense I was able to add at the guard spots the past two rounds to go with Melo and LMA

Really like the Anothony Aldridge pairing.

Should be noted that Wes Matthews isn't much defensively any more after that Achilles injury.

Yeah, despite the fact his minutes were right on par with his career averages, his stats were down pretty much across the board (sub 40% shooting).  And he did look a good bit slower, which really affected his defense.   But he's still relatively young enough to bounce back.

Not the worst fit in the world, but him and Holiday combined are a risky back court duo.  Gonna need a reliable backup there.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Celts Fan 508 on August 04, 2016, 06:40:09 PM
The Minnesota Timberwolves will run up the score on everyone:

Quote
PG   Isaiah Thomas
SG   J.J.Redick
SF   
PF   Kevin Love
C   
6th   Jamal Crawford

Outside of KLove locking down Curry, will they be able to stop anyone?



Mk

I know this is fake, but I would love to see that team play, would be a lot of fun, unfortunately you have the wrong coach for that type of team.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Celtic Fan Forever on August 04, 2016, 07:06:00 PM
The Minnesota Timberwolves will run up the score on everyone:

Quote
PG   Isaiah Thomas
SG   J.J.Redick
SF   
PF   Kevin Love
C   
6th   Jamal Crawford

Outside of KLove locking down Curry, will they be able to stop anyone?



Mk

I know this is fake, but I would love to see that team play, would be a lot of fun, unfortunately you have the wrong coach for that type of team.

Thibs will get a headache trying to get those guys to play defense.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: DinoGanga on August 04, 2016, 07:56:51 PM
Wizards through four rounds

Elfrid Payton
Avery Bradley
Jae Crowder
LeBron James

Payton's a tough fit with LBJ but the PG cupboard got raided so I'm not sure there was a better option for you there. Nice to get another ballhandler with AB and Jae's limitations in that regard.

Lbj controls the ball so much he essentially is the PG

Payton off the ball on offense is a liability


Him and Smart are gonna find their shot and become All Stars soon. :o
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: The Rondo Show on August 04, 2016, 08:15:34 PM
PG:
SG: Fournier
SF: Stanley
PF: Simmons
C: Whiteside

Please help my team. Looking for a trade
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Kane3387 on August 04, 2016, 08:45:15 PM
Cleveland Cavaliers

 C: Greg Monroe
PF: Serge Ibaka
SF:
SG: Brandon Knight
PG: Andre Igoudala

Monroe is tremendous value at the end of the 4th. I like his fit with Ibaka too, I think they compliment each other very well as Ibaka will space the floor and play defense whereas Monroe can operate down low and control the glass.

Thanks and with 7 picks in the next three rounds I like where my team is at. I look around the league and think these four guys can match up with most teams. I think they all complement one another well.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: snively on August 04, 2016, 09:53:20 PM
PG:
SG: Fournier
SF: Stanley
PF: Simmons
C: Whiteside

Please help my team. Looking for a trade

Might be good to go young and own the future.  A lot of really good young talent still left on the board and you've already got a great combo with Stanley and Simmons. Fournier only 23 too.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: The Walker Wiggle on August 04, 2016, 10:55:50 PM
Cleveland Cavaliers

C: Greg Monroe
PF: Serge Ibaka
SF:
SG: Brandon Knight
PG: Andre Igoudala

Monroe is tremendous value at the end of the 4th. I like his fit with Ibaka too, I think they compliment each other very well as Ibaka will space the floor and play defense whereas Monroe can operate down low and control the glass.

Thanks and with 7 picks in the next three rounds I like where my team is at. I look around the league and think these four guys can match up with most teams. I think they all complement one another well.

Seven picks in the next three rounds? Wow. I'm a long time fan of Iguodala, Ibaka and Knight. And that's an excellent defensive foundation. On offense, I do wonder, who's your first option? Second? I'd like to see Ibaka get more opportunities around the basket than he has in OKC the past two seasons. His game has suffered as he's been pushed towards the corners. What's Monroe's jumper like?

You may want to line up Knight at the 1. Though I'm fine with the current arrangement, I tried to run Andre as my point forward back on my CB Draft 2012 Warriors (Ginobili, Klay Thompson, Iguodala, Anthony Davis, Channing Frye) and got left out the playoffs. For whatever that's worth. (Oh look, I'm trying it again.)
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Kane3387 on August 05, 2016, 12:39:04 AM
Cleveland Cavaliers

C: Greg Monroe
PF: Serge Ibaka
SF:
SG: Brandon Knight
PG: Andre Igoudala

Monroe is tremendous value at the end of the 4th. I like his fit with Ibaka too, I think they compliment each other very well as Ibaka will space the floor and play defense whereas Monroe can operate down low and control the glass.

Thanks and with 7 picks in the next three rounds I like where my team is at. I look around the league and think these four guys can match up with most teams. I think they all complement one another well.

Seven picks in the next three rounds? Wow. I'm a long time fan of Iguodala, Ibaka and Knight. And that's an excellent defensive foundation. On offense, I do wonder, who's your first option? Second? I'd like to see Ibaka get more opportunities around the basket than he has in OKC the past two seasons. His game has suffered as he's been pushed towards the corners. What's Monroe's jumper like?

You may want to line up Knight at the 1. Though I'm fine with the current arrangement, I tried to run Andre as my point forward back on my CB Draft 2012 Warriors (Ginobili, Klay Thompson, Iguodala, Anthony Davis, Channing Frye) and got left out the playoffs. For whatever that's worth. (Oh look, I'm trying it again.)

Davis and Klay were pretty raw as far as NBA seasoning goes than tho. I think that hurt you more than running iggy at the one. Werent iggy and Manu your first two picks? I seem to remember ppl being high on that backcourt at the conclusion of round 2.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: RJ87 on August 05, 2016, 08:31:06 AM
Looking to move 6.7 and 9.24 to get into the 5th round (also alternatively interested in dealing 9.24 and 11.24 to get into round 7)
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: nickagneta on August 05, 2016, 10:29:39 AM
Looking to move 6.7 and 9.24 to get into the 5th round (also alternatively interested in dealing 9.24 and 11.24 to get into round 7)
I have 6.5 and 9.3 to offer  to get into the 5th round. PM me.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on August 05, 2016, 10:30:15 AM
With 5.1 the Trailblazers select Thaddeus Young. Sorry if the round isn't open, but I'm going to have limited access for the next couple of hours.

Thadd was one of my three BPA picks. Underrated small ball four, plus defender who eats off junk shots. One of my favorites in Brooklyn these past two seasons.

One of the best players left. If only he can shoot threes, he's the perfect small ball 4.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: mkogav on August 05, 2016, 11:13:40 AM
The Minnesota Timberwolves will run up the score on everyone:

Quote
PG   Isaiah Thomas
SG   J.J.Redick
SF   
PF   Kevin Love
C    Robin Lopez
6th  Jamal Crawford


Outside of KLove locking down Curry, will they be able to stop anyone?



Mk

I know this is fake, but I would love to see that team play, would be a lot of fun, unfortunately you have the wrong coach for that type of team.

I believe the opposite.

Teams with great individual defenders don't necessarily need a great defensive coach. A team like my CB Wolves who don't have great/plus individual defenders outside of Lopez, need a coach like Thibs who can create/motivate great team defensive play from it's players.

Thibs will get a headache trying to get those guys to play defense.

Thib's will loose his voice after the first 30 minutes of practice rather than 60 minutes.

(http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/2552805/TOMragin.gif)



Mk
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on August 05, 2016, 11:20:49 AM
I only have THREE guys on my draft board, so for the love of God DO NOT PICK ALL OF THEM!

Also, solid pick KGK with Andrew Bogut. Always have been my favorite player. I worry that your starting front court is a little slow, though?
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: RJ87 on August 05, 2016, 11:28:48 AM
With the 5th pick in the 5th Round the Denver Nuggets select Monta Ellis

Interesting team Chilly's building there.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: The Walker Wiggle on August 05, 2016, 01:37:07 PM
Pretend Sam Hinkie's 2016-17 Philadelphia 76ers:

#PointGiannis
PG/SG Devin Booker
SF Danilo Gallinari
PF Amir Johnson
C Nerlens Noel

I NEARLY covered the full 22'9" to the three point arc with my first three picks (7'1", 7'3", and 7'4" wingspans) Thoughts? I've got one more pick this round. Can I start Johnson? Should I play Gallo as a stretch 4? Do I need a traditional point guard more or another big? I'm happy to return the favor.

(http://i.amz.mshcdn.com/PZq8lE1FEURj8oAGwamc25BfWgs=/950x534/2015%2F09%2F13%2Ffa%2FAP_57158292.c4792.jpg)
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Denis998 on August 05, 2016, 01:58:41 PM
Thoughts on my roster so far?
Reggie Jackson
CJ McCollum
--------------------------
Blake Griffin
Gorgui Dieng
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: nickagneta on August 05, 2016, 01:59:19 PM
Pretend Sam Hinkie's 2016-17 Philadelphia 76ers:

#PointGiannis
PG/SG Devin Booker
SF Danilo Gallinari
PF Amir Johnson
C Nerlens Noel

I NEARLY covered the full 22'9" to the three point arc with my first three picks (7'1", 7'3", and 7'4" wingspans) Thoughts? I've got one more pick this round. Can I start Johnson? Should I play Gallo as a stretch 4? Do I need a traditional point guard more or another big? I'm happy to return the favor.

(http://i.amz.mshcdn.com/PZq8lE1FEURj8oAGwamc25BfWgs=/950x534/2015%2F09%2F13%2Ffa%2FAP_57158292.c4792.jpg)
Devin Booker is a great playmaker and passer and can share ball handling/PG duties with Giannis. But between Amir and Nerlens you have little to no front court scoring. I think you need a backup up front that can put the ball in the hoop on a regular basis
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: mkogav on August 05, 2016, 02:01:02 PM
#PointGiannis
PG/SG Devin Booker
SF Danilo Gallinari
PF Amir Johnson
C Nerlens Noel

I NEARLY covered the full 22'9" to the three point arc with my first three picks (7'1", 7'3", and 7'4" wingspans) Thoughts?

Crazy!!

Can I start Johnson?

Amir is certainly startable. IMO, he's better suited coming off the bench behind Noel, with a PF who has 3pt range starting at the 4.

Should I play Gallo as a stretch 4?

He can play stretch 4 depending on the rest of the lineup. Gallo can not be depended on to start at the 4.

Do I need a traditional point guard more or another big?

Your teams needs a secondary ball handler when one of Giannis or Booker are on the bench. This player doesn't need to be a traditional PG b/c Booker or Giannis will have the ball in his hands. A better fit would be a shooting PG with 3pt range.

Choosing between a secondary ball handling guard and a big, I believe your team's biggest need right now is a PF/C who can shoot the 3.

Mk
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: The Rondo Show on August 05, 2016, 02:02:41 PM
Offense:

PG: Simmons
SG: Gordon
SF: Fournier
PF: Johnson
C: Whiteside

Defense:

PG: Gordon
SG: Fournier
SF: Johnson
PF: Simmons
C: Whiteside
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Who on August 05, 2016, 02:05:49 PM
Pretend Sam Hinkie's 2016-17 Philadelphia 76ers:

#PointGiannis
PG/SG Devin Booker
SF Danilo Gallinari
PF Amir Johnson
C Nerlens Noel

I NEARLY covered the full 22'9" to the three point arc with my first three picks (7'1", 7'3", and 7'4" wingspans) Thoughts? I've got one more pick this round. Can I start Johnson? Should I play Gallo as a stretch 4? Do I need a traditional point guard more or another big? I'm happy to return the favor.

Tough to play Amir and Noel together. Very little offense in that duo. And then you add Giannis who cannot shoot either. Hard to have effective spacing with that trio. So, I would be inclined to bring Amir off the bench.

I would go with a traditional PG over another big man and use Giannis as a PG on offense but have him defend SF or PF. I think it will be hard to find a big with enough offense to balance out your team. Easier I expect to find a quality option at PG who can defend and shoot. You can always go with a combo guard type rather than a PG. Or even draft a SF and slide Gallo to PF and keep Giannis at PG defensively. So, I think you could draft any position 1 through 4 and make it work so long as that player can shoot the ball.

I would avoid a ball dominant PG though. Need someone who is happy to let Giannis do his thing and then give Gallo and Booker plenty of touches as well. Decentralized playmaking (not PG-centric). More of a Derek Fisher type PG.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on August 05, 2016, 02:10:19 PM
The Indiana Pacers use pick 5.14 to select Kenneth Faried to complete are starting 5.

Pg: rondo
Sg: Butler
Sf: Barnes
Pf: Faried
C: Gobert

I'm not liking the spacing this team can provide. Harrison Barnes seems to be the only reliable 3PT shooter in that bunch.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Who on August 05, 2016, 02:12:07 PM
The Indiana Pacers use pick 5.14 to select Kenneth Faried to complete are starting 5.

Pg: rondo
Sg: Butler
Sf: Barnes
Pf: Faried
C: Gobert

I'm not liking the spacing this team can provide. Harrison Barnes seems to be the only reliable 3PT shooter in that bunch.

Faried would be a great option as a bench player. I have always loved the instant-energy he brings off the bench. Inspires the rest of his team.

Then find a PF who can shoot and start him to balance out the starting lineup.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on August 05, 2016, 02:16:28 PM
Thoughts on my roster so far?
Reggie Jackson
CJ McCollum
--------------------------
Blake Griffin
Gorgui Dieng

It's good that you have added a somewhat known defender at the C spot.

Plenty of scoring from your squad, but I'm concerned defensively, especially on the backcourt with McCollum and Jackson not really particularly known in that department. Adding Dieng helps the defense a little bit, but you may need a piece that can defend the guards coming off the bench.

Then again, Reggie and CJ can just outscore the other back court, so there's that...
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on August 05, 2016, 02:17:53 PM
The Indiana Pacers use pick 5.14 to select Kenneth Faried to complete are starting 5.

Pg: rondo
Sg: Butler
Sf: Barnes
Pf: Faried
C: Gobert

I'm not liking the spacing this team can provide. Harrison Barnes seems to be the only reliable 3PT shooter in that bunch.

Faried would be a great option as a bench player. I have always loved the instant-energy he brings off the bench. Inspires the rest of his team.

Then find a PF who can shoot and start him to balance out the starting lineup.

Or play Harrison Barnes at PF and find a winger that can shoot?
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Who on August 05, 2016, 02:18:49 PM
The Indiana Pacers use pick 5.14 to select Kenneth Faried to complete are starting 5.

Pg: rondo
Sg: Butler
Sf: Barnes
Pf: Faried
C: Gobert

I'm not liking the spacing this team can provide. Harrison Barnes seems to be the only reliable 3PT shooter in that bunch.

Faried would be a great option as a bench player. I have always loved the instant-energy he brings off the bench. Inspires the rest of his team.

Then find a PF who can shoot and start him to balance out the starting lineup.

Or play Harrison Barnes at PF and find a winger that can shoot?

Yep, that will work.

Potential for a dynamite running team with Rondo at PG and H.Barnes at PF.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: RJ87 on August 05, 2016, 02:29:24 PM
The Cleveland Cavaliers use pick 5.16 to select Joe Johnson

Really good value in the 5th round.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Kane3387 on August 05, 2016, 02:30:15 PM
Cleveland Cavaliers

 C: Greg Monroe
PF: Serge Ibaka
SF: Joe Johnson
SG: Brandon Knight
PG: Andre Igoudala
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on August 05, 2016, 02:37:18 PM
Cleveland Cavaliers

 C: Greg Monroe
PF: Serge Ibaka
SF: Joe Johnson
SG: Brandon Knight
PG: Andre Igoudala

Good, well balanced team right there.

Plenty of capable ball handlers. Versatile defenders. Post scoring with adequate spacing to provide room to grow.

And now, add a late game performer. Love this squad.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on August 05, 2016, 03:04:31 PM
2016 CB Draft Utah Jazz Roster:

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(http://d2cwpp38twqe55.cloudfront.net/req/201604170/images/players/middlkh01.png)(http://d2cwpp38twqe55.cloudfront.net/req/201604170/images/players/rosede01.png)



Have at it, ladies and gents.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Evantime34 on August 05, 2016, 03:16:45 PM
The Memphis Grizzlies select Willie Cauley-Stein.
Oh, bummer ... only a few picks away!

I loved the idea of WCS backing up & playing alongside Anthony Davis. So much speed & length. Ah well.

Great pick.
Didn't want to clutter up the draft thread so I'll respond to this here.

Thanks! Even  though watching him play with Anthony Davis would have been fun. I'm sure learning from Joakim Noah will really help WCS.

I expect Sacto to play much better defense under their new coach. When this happens I'm sure WCS will be a big factor.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on August 05, 2016, 03:20:56 PM
Well, at least I'm getting one of the three, not bad...

With pick 5.19 of the 2016 CB Draft, the Utah Jazz selects a guy who's solid on both ends of the court, and not only is underrated, but has been a CB Draft Favorite of GM Yoki.

Wilson Chandler

(http://thatsenuff.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Nuggets-Wilson-Chandler-courtesy-nba.jpg)

And he's ready to go this year.

Chandler did not occur to me. I like his game and the pick. He's healthy?

He missed the entire season last year, but from an article from The Denver Post on July 7th, he's been "cleared to play 5 on 5" since June.

http://www.denverpost.com/2016/07/07/wilson-chandler-denver-nuggets-hip-rehab/

He should be good to go this year. And if he is, he's a 14 ppg guy, shooting 34% from 3 and will provide solid defense from the SF spot.

Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Kane3387 on August 05, 2016, 04:02:12 PM
Cleveland Cavaliers

 C: Greg Monroe
PF: Serge Ibaka
SF: Joe Johnson
SG: Brandon Knight
PG: Andre Igoudala

Bench:

Kyle Korver
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: RJ87 on August 05, 2016, 04:06:48 PM
Trade Announcement

Memphis sends Kris Dunn and Kelly Olynyk

Brooklyn sends D'Angelo Russell and 10.7

Thoughts, anyone?

PG: Dunn
SG: Wiggins
SF:
PF: Olynyk
C: Cousins
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Evantime34 on August 05, 2016, 04:06:51 PM
Any thoughts on the deal I just made?

Trade Announcement

Memphis sends Kris Dunn and Kelly Olynyk

Brooklyn sends D'Angelo Russell and 10.7
I think D'Angelo is going to become a star this year. I really wanted to add shooting out of the pg position.

D'Angelo
Klay
Aaron Gordon
Jabari Parker
Noah/WCS
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: nickagneta on August 05, 2016, 04:12:29 PM
After five rounds the Oklahoma City Thunder

PG: Jeff Teague
SG: Rodney Hood
SF: C. J. Miles
PF: Draymond Green
C: Mason Plumlee

Bench: Ryan Anderson
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: ChillyWilly on August 05, 2016, 04:17:56 PM
With the 5th pick in the 5th Round the Denver Nuggets select Monta Ellis

Interesting team Chilly's building there.

Polite way of saying "What the heck is this rookie GM doing?"  :laugh:
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: airbelinelli on August 05, 2016, 04:18:00 PM
The Golden State Squad:

PG: Eric Bledsoe, Jeremy Lin
SG: Bradley Beal
SF: Justice Winslow, Brandon Ingram
PF: Myles Turner
C: Steven Adams
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: KGs Knee on August 05, 2016, 04:20:18 PM
Charlotte Hornets

Coach: Steve Clifford

F- Andrew Bogut
F- Al Horford
F- Chandler Parsons
G- JR Smith
G- Mike Conley Jr

6th Man- Tyler Johnson


I dunno, I really like this team.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: KGs Knee on August 05, 2016, 04:22:45 PM
With the 5th pick in the 5th Round the Denver Nuggets select Monta Ellis

Interesting team Chilly's building there.

Polite way of saying "What the heck is this rookie GM doing?"  :laugh:

It's a good squad.

I really like the front court pairing.  Very skilled and versatile offensively.

I'm less excited about the perimeter, though.  Good talent, but not really fan favorites.  May be a tough sell around these parts.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: RJ87 on August 05, 2016, 04:30:04 PM
With the 5th pick in the 5th Round the Denver Nuggets select Monta Ellis

Interesting team Chilly's building there.

Polite way of saying "What the heck is this rookie GM doing?"  :laugh:

Haha, not at all. Monta's personally one of my favorite guards and Gay's underrated, just don't know about that pairing if you don't have a catch & shoot PG.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: KGs Knee on August 05, 2016, 04:35:06 PM
With the 5th pick in the 5th Round the Denver Nuggets select Monta Ellis

Interesting team Chilly's building there.

Polite way of saying "What the heck is this rookie GM doing?"  :laugh:

Haha, not at all. Monta's personally one of my favorite guards and Gay's underrated, just don't know about that pairing if you don't have a catch & shoot PG.

Isn't that kind of DWill's game at this point?

22.5% of his attempts last year were catch and shoot threes, which he made at a 39.7% rate.

http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/101114/tracking/shots/
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: snively on August 05, 2016, 04:38:39 PM
Charlotte Hornets

Coach: Steve Clifford

F- Andrew Bogut
F- Al Horford
F- Chandler Parsons
G- JR Smith
G- Mike Conley Jr

6th Man- Tyler Johnson


I dunno, I really like this team.

Just missing a good combo forward so you can get Horford some more time at the 5 (not hard since Bogut is such a short minute guy nowadays).
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: RJ87 on August 05, 2016, 04:39:29 PM
With the 5th pick in the 5th Round the Denver Nuggets select Monta Ellis

Interesting team Chilly's building there.

Polite way of saying "What the heck is this rookie GM doing?"  :laugh:

Haha, not at all. Monta's personally one of my favorite guards and Gay's underrated, just don't know about that pairing if you don't have a catch & shoot PG.

Isn't that kind of DWill's game at this point?

22.5% of his attempts last year were catch and shoot threes, which he made at a 39.7% rate.

http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/101114/tracking/shots/

Fair enough - I was looking at the raw 34% stat. Didn't realize how much pull-ups dragged down his percentage.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: RJ87 on August 05, 2016, 04:40:51 PM
Charlotte Hornets

Coach: Steve Clifford

F- Andrew Bogut
F- Al Horford
F- Chandler Parsons
G- JR Smith
G- Mike Conley Jr

6th Man- Tyler Johnson


I dunno, I really like this team.

Just missing a good combo forward so you can get Horford some more time at the 5 (not hard since Bogut is such a short minute guy nowadays).

Parsons is actually pretty good as a small ball 4 if Horford needs minutes at the 5.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Gainesville Celtic on August 05, 2016, 04:41:59 PM
Dallas Mavericks

PG - Kemba Walker
SG - (Got my eye on someone... worse-comes-to-worse Coach Carlisle becomes player-coach)
SF - Otto Porter
PF - Derrick Favors
C - Marcin Gortat

6th man - Zach Randloph
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: snively on August 05, 2016, 04:46:51 PM
Charlotte Hornets

Coach: Steve Clifford

F- Andrew Bogut
F- Al Horford
F- Chandler Parsons
G- JR Smith
G- Mike Conley Jr

6th Man- Tyler Johnson


I dunno, I really like this team.

Just missing a good combo forward so you can get Horford some more time at the 5 (not hard since Bogut is such a short minute guy nowadays).

Parsons is actually pretty good as a small ball 4 if Horford needs minutes at the 5.

Not on the boards. Especially since Charlotte is pretty small with their guard rotation already.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: wdleehi on August 05, 2016, 04:49:55 PM
Dallas Mavericks

PG - Kemba Walker
SG - (Got my eye on someone... worse-comes-to-worse Coach Carlisle becomes player-coach)
SF - Otto Porter
PF - Derrick Favors
C - Marcin Gortat

6th man - Zach Randloph


I like the size.  Should contend for playoffs in a vacuum.   Lacks that playoff go to guy.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: wdleehi on August 05, 2016, 04:51:02 PM
Charlotte Hornets

Coach: Steve Clifford

F- Andrew Bogut
F- Al Horford
F- Chandler Parsons
G- JR Smith
G- Mike Conley Jr

6th Man- Tyler Johnson


I dunno, I really like this team.


Very solid and deep team. 
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: wdleehi on August 05, 2016, 04:52:15 PM
The Golden State Squad:

PG: Eric Bledsoe, Jeremy Lin
SG: Bradley Beal
SF: Justice Winslow, Brandon Ingram
PF: Myles Turner
C: Steven Adams


I think unless one of the SF plays some SG, too much raw talent at SF and not enough talent that you can trust to be healthy at the G spot. 
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: wdleehi on August 05, 2016, 04:55:33 PM
The Now Knicks

PG  Irving
SG C. Lee
SF Shabazz Muhammad
PF Marcus Morris
C  Drummond
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Gainesville Celtic on August 05, 2016, 04:57:18 PM
Dallas Mavericks

PG - Kemba Walker
SG - (Got my eye on someone... worse-comes-to-worse Coach Carlisle becomes player-coach)
SF - Otto Porter
PF - Derrick Favors
C - Marcin Gortat

6th man - Zach Randloph


I like the size.  Should contend for playoffs in a vacuum.   Lacks that playoff go to guy.


yeah huh? uh...

(http://media.giphy.com/media/yoJC2Ij3h23mPrWzsI/giphy.gif)


8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8)

;D
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: KGs Knee on August 05, 2016, 05:04:02 PM
Charlotte Hornets

Coach: Steve Clifford

F- Andrew Bogut
F- Al Horford
F- Chandler Parsons
G- JR Smith
G- Mike Conley Jr

6th Man- Tyler Johnson


I dunno, I really like this team.

Just missing a good combo forward so you can get Horford some more time at the 5 (not hard since Bogut is such a short minute guy nowadays).

Parsons is actually pretty good as a small ball 4 if Horford needs minutes at the 5.

Not on the boards. Especially since Charlotte is pretty small with their guard rotation already.

Well, Parsons averaged the same number of defensive rebounds per game (4.2 DRPG) as guys like Gallinari, Marcus Morris, Harrison Barnes, ect..  So he's not totally devoid of that ability. He just offers next to nothing on the offensive glass.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: KGs Knee on August 05, 2016, 05:09:19 PM
The Now Knicks

PG  Irving
SG C. Lee
SF Shabazz Muhammad
PF Marcus Morris
C  Drummond

Other than Shabazz, who I thought was a bit of a reach, I really like this team.

Plenty of spacing for Kyrie to do his thing, and the Drummond/Morris pairing is very stout as a defensive small ball unit.

I might look for a bit of a more traditional PF to match up with bigger front courts, and a bit more play making on the wings, though.  As is, I think you're probably a lock for a playoff spot, at the moment.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on August 05, 2016, 05:15:28 PM
Oh, me too, Mr. Me too.

C: Jonas Valanciunas
F: Karl-Anthony Towns
F: Wilson Chandler
G: Khris Middleton
G: Derrick Rose

What ya guys think?
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: snively on August 05, 2016, 05:16:57 PM
Charlotte Hornets

Coach: Steve Clifford

F- Andrew Bogut
F- Al Horford
F- Chandler Parsons
G- JR Smith
G- Mike Conley Jr

6th Man- Tyler Johnson


I dunno, I really like this team.

Just missing a good combo forward so you can get Horford some more time at the 5 (not hard since Bogut is such a short minute guy nowadays).

Parsons is actually pretty good as a small ball 4 if Horford needs minutes at the 5.

Not on the boards. Especially since Charlotte is pretty small with their guard rotation already.

Well, Parsons averaged the same number of defensive rebounds per game (4.2 DRPG) as guys like Gallinari, Marcus Morris, Harrison Barnes, ect..  So he's not totally devoid of that ability. He just offers next to nothing on the offensive glass.

I  think Parsons works as a small-ball 4 next to a paint behemoth, but next to Horford and a bunch of small guards, I think it opens up too many problems on the defensive glass while completely waving the white flag on the glass on the other end.

Obviously there are offensive advantages that might make it worth it, but a combo forward with a bit more beef or hustle I think would bring that group together better.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: snively on August 05, 2016, 05:19:18 PM
Oh, me too, Mr. Me too.

C: Jonas Valanciunas
F: Karl-Anthony Towns
F: Wilson Chandler
G: Khris Middleton
G: Derrick Rose

What ya guys think?

I like it until Rose. The size 2-5 is pretty remarkable - very intimidating on both ends. But I think Rose actively makes his teams worse by sucking possessions away from more efficient teammates and playing poor defense. As a 6th man he might be salvageable, but I'd keep him away from your starters.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Bucketgetter on August 05, 2016, 05:29:12 PM
Sacramento Kings

Damian Lillard
Kentavious Caldwell-Pope
Kawhi Leonard
Marvin Williams
John Henson

What do ya'll think? I tried getting a better Center, but I shouldn't have missed my pick. Overall I think Henson does what I want though, Shot blocker, good PnR defender, athletic. I was going for Capela.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: KGs Knee on August 05, 2016, 05:29:43 PM
Charlotte Hornets

Coach: Steve Clifford

F- Andrew Bogut
F- Al Horford
F- Chandler Parsons
G- JR Smith
G- Mike Conley Jr

6th Man- Tyler Johnson


I dunno, I really like this team.

Just missing a good combo forward so you can get Horford some more time at the 5 (not hard since Bogut is such a short minute guy nowadays).

Parsons is actually pretty good as a small ball 4 if Horford needs minutes at the 5.

Not on the boards. Especially since Charlotte is pretty small with their guard rotation already.

Well, Parsons averaged the same number of defensive rebounds per game (4.2 DRPG) as guys like Gallinari, Marcus Morris, Harrison Barnes, ect..  So he's not totally devoid of that ability. He just offers next to nothing on the offensive glass.

I  think Parsons works as a small-ball 4 next to a paint behemoth, but next to Horford and a bunch of small guards, I think it opens up too many problems on the defensive glass while completely waving the white flag on the glass on the other end.

Obviously there are offensive advantages that might make it worth it, but a combo forward with a bit more beef or hustle I think would bring that group together better.

Fair enough.  I don't quite see it that way, rebounding seems to correlate with winning less and less in the NBA with each passing year.

That said, it's not like I intend on ignoring the matter either.  But if the biggest criticism of my team is rebounding when I'm going small, I can live with that.

TP for your thoughts!
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on August 05, 2016, 05:30:53 PM
Sacramento Kings

Damian Lillard
Kentavious Caldwell-Pope
Kawhi Leonard
Marvin Williams
John Henson

What do ya'll think? I tried getting a better Center, but I shouldn't have missed my pick. Overall I think Henson does what I want though, Shot blocker, good PnR defender, athletic. I was going for Capela.

Love the defense on from the wings. KCP relieves Lillard vs elite PG's himself. Henson should do a fine enough job protecting the paint and not have to worry about offensive production with Lillard and Kawhi being able to carry the load.

Love this team. Great job.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: KGs Knee on August 05, 2016, 05:38:09 PM
Oh, me too, Mr. Me too.

C: Jonas Valanciunas
F: Karl-Anthony Towns
F: Wilson Chandler
G: Khris Middleton
G: Derrick Rose

What ya guys think?

I'm with Snively, Derrick Rose just really....ugh....IDK.

He just hasn't adjusted his game to his lack of explosiveness to stay effective.  It's like he refuses to accept reality.  Take a guy like Wade, he's accepted his athleticism is gone and developed that "old man" game, and as a result is still a very effective player even in his advanced age.  Rose needs a new bag of tricks or he won't be around much longer.

But don't worry Yoki, 2-5 that is an excellent lineup.  Maybe seek out a trade or try to find a PG in the next round, if there are any decent one's left.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on August 05, 2016, 05:39:12 PM
Oh, me too, Mr. Me too.

C: Jonas Valanciunas
F: Karl-Anthony Towns
F: Wilson Chandler
G: Khris Middleton
G: Derrick Rose

What ya guys think?

I like it until Rose. The size 2-5 is pretty remarkable - very intimidating on both ends. But I think Rose actively makes his teams worse by sucking possessions away from more efficient teammates and playing poor defense. As a 6th man he might be salvageable, but I'd keep him away from your starters.

Yeah, the Rose defensive issues needs to be addressed in the next few rounds, but as far as sucking possessions, I think this is a team in which he could do it once in a while and not have a worry.

Outside of Karl-Anthony Towns, the rest of the team aren't ball dominant players, and don't need to be ball dominant to be effective. He can be high usage on this team and not have a dropoff in production with the rest of the team.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on August 05, 2016, 05:50:25 PM
Oh, me too, Mr. Me too.

C: Jonas Valanciunas
F: Karl-Anthony Towns
F: Wilson Chandler
G: Khris Middleton
G: Derrick Rose

What ya guys think?

I'm with Snively, Derrick Rose just really....ugh....IDK.

He just hasn't adjusted his game to his lack of explosiveness to stay effective.  It's like he refuses to accept reality.  Take a guy like Wade, he's accepted his athleticism is gone and developed that "old man" game, and as a result is still a very effective player even in his advanced age.  Rose needs a new bag of tricks or he won't be around much longer.


He did average 16 a game this year, three times he dropped 30 or more, on a team in which the fit is just horrible for both him and Jimmy Butler. He averaged 21.9 points, 5 rebounds, 6 assists on 44% shooting in March last year, and looked like the Rose of old.

We can say this is a better fit team for his style, even though that style has lost half a step. The D-Rose is still there, maybe not as explosive, but it's still there. The fit on last year's RL Bulls was just horrible for him, having a teammate who pretty much plays the same style as him. Not on this team, where's he's surrounded by shooters and a big man who doesn't pound the ball fro 5-7 seconds to be effective.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Kane3387 on August 05, 2016, 06:14:23 PM
Cleveland Cavaliers

 C: Greg Monroe
PF: Serge Ibaka
SF: Joe Johnson
SG: Brandon Knight
PG: Andre Igoudala

Bench:

Kyle Korver

Feel free to discuss more  8)
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: nickagneta on August 05, 2016, 06:21:26 PM
After five rounds the Oklahoma City Thunder

PG: Jeff Teague
SG: Rodney Hood
SF: C. J. Miles
PF: Draymond Green
C: Mason Plumlee

Bench: Ryan Anderson

No comments?
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: RJ87 on August 05, 2016, 06:30:37 PM
Cleveland Cavaliers

 C: Greg Monroe
PF: Serge Ibaka
SF: Joe Johnson
SG: Brandon Knight
PG: Andre Igoudala

Bench:

Kyle Korver

Feel free to discuss more  8)

I like this group a lot. Might need one more defensive guard.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Kane3387 on August 05, 2016, 07:07:11 PM
After five rounds the Oklahoma City Thunder

PG: Jeff Teague
SG: Rodney Hood
SF: C. J. Miles
PF: Draymond Green
C: Mason Plumlee

Bench: Ryan Anderson

No comments?

You did a nice job surrounding draymond with players who can play off ball and still excel while doing so. I'm a fan of Plumlee but I like the lineup with Anderson at the 4 and Green at Center. Your death lineup version I guess.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: KGs Knee on August 05, 2016, 08:11:24 PM
After five rounds the Oklahoma City Thunder

PG: Jeff Teague
SG: Rodney Hood
SF: C. J. Miles
PF: Draymond Green
C: Mason Plumlee

Bench: Ryan Anderson

No comments?

You did a nice job surrounding draymond with players who can play off ball and still excel while doing so. I'm a fan of Plumlee but I like the lineup with Anderson at the 4 and Green at Center. Your death lineup version I guess.

Well, I would go so far as to call it a death lineup, the defense won't be as good with Ryno in there.

None the less, I like what Nick has done with this group. Hood was a sneaky good pick.

And any team that has multiple Blue Devils is going to get good marks from me!
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: KGs Knee on August 05, 2016, 08:16:49 PM
Cleveland Cavaliers

 C: Greg Monroe
PF: Serge Ibaka
SF: Joe Johnson
SG: Brandon Knight
PG: Andre Igoudala

Bench:

Kyle Korver

Feel free to discuss more  8)

How did you get so many picks in the next two rounds? By the time Monday is over this is likely going to be one of the deepest teams in the draft.

I'd try to focus a bit more on defense with some of those upcoming picks, though, because outside of Ibaka and Iggy, none of the others really offer much on that end.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Who on August 05, 2016, 08:30:22 PM
Cleveland Cavaliers

 C: Greg Monroe
PF: Serge Ibaka
SF: Joe Johnson
SG: Brandon Knight
PG: Andre Igoudala

Bench:

Kyle Korver

Feel free to discuss more  8)

How did you get so many picks in the next two rounds? By the time Monday is over this is likely going to be one of the deepest teams in the draft.

I'd try to focus a bit more on defense with some of those upcoming picks, though, because outside of Ibaka and Iggy, none of the others really offer much on that end.

I really like Brandon Knight's defense when he gets to defend PGs. I think he is one of the better defensive PGs in the league. Below average at defending SGs though. He doesn't like defending guys bigger than him.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Rondo2287 on August 05, 2016, 09:01:42 PM
Cleveland Cavaliers

 C: Greg Monroe
PF: Serge Ibaka
SF: Joe Johnson
SG: Brandon Knight
PG: Andre Igoudala

Bench:

Kyle Korver

Feel free to discuss more  8)

How did you get so many picks in the next two rounds? By the time Monday is over this is likely going to be one of the deepest teams in the draft.

I'd try to focus a bit more on defense with some of those upcoming picks, though, because outside of Ibaka and Iggy, none of the others really offer much on that end.

Deepest but no elite talent.  Not a top 35 player on that team which doesn't bode well in the NBA
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Kane3387 on August 06, 2016, 12:19:22 AM
Cleveland Cavaliers

 C: Greg Monroe
PF: Serge Ibaka
SF: Joe Johnson
SG: Brandon Knight
PG: Andre Igoudala

Bench:

Kyle Korver

Feel free to discuss more  8)

How did you get so many picks in the next two rounds? By the time Monday is over this is likely going to be one of the deepest teams in the draft.

I'd try to focus a bit more on defense with some of those upcoming picks, though, because outside of Ibaka and Iggy, none of the others really offer much on that end.

Deepest but no elite talent.  Not a top 35 player on that team which doesn't bode well in the NBA

I don't know about that. Finals MVP is nothing to sniff at.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Who on August 08, 2016, 11:21:11 AM
Houston Rockets with coach Mike D'Antoni

 C: Anthony Davis
PF: Nikola Mirotic
SF: DeMarre Carroll
SG: Gary Harris
PG: Goran Dragic

Bench: Kyle Anderson (PF/SF)
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: snively on August 08, 2016, 11:30:39 AM
Houston Rockets with coach Mike D'Antoni

 C: Anthony Davis
PF: Nikola Mirotic
SF: DeMarre Carroll
SG: Gary Harris
PG: Goran Dragic

Bench: Kyle Anderson (PF/SF)


AD would put up 30/15 with this squad.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: snively on August 08, 2016, 12:00:53 PM
The Utah Jazz is happy to select Shaun Livingston for the 6.12th pick.

Need a solid backup with Derrick Rose on the team, and there's nothing more solid than S.Dot.

Livingston-Middleton-WilsonChandler-KAT-Val

If you start Livingston over Rose (which I'd recommend) this is a monstrously huge team. 2 7 footers and not a single starter under 6'7.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on August 08, 2016, 12:15:33 PM
The Utah Jazz is happy to select Shaun Livingston for the 6.12th pick.

Need a solid backup with Derrick Rose on the team, and there's nothing more solid than S.Dot.

Livingston-Middleton-WilsonChandler-KAT-Val

If you start Livingston over Rose (which I'd recommend) this is a monstrously huge team. 2 7 footers and not a single starter under 6'7.

That's actually the plan. I may have to start Shaun there if the voters would likely think it's better.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Kane3387 on August 08, 2016, 12:18:23 PM
Cleveland Cavaliers

 C: Greg Monroe
PF: Serge Ibaka
SF: Joe Johnson
SG: Brandon Knight
PG: Andre Igoudala

Bench:

Kyle Korver
Thabo Sefolosha
Al Jefferson
Taj Gibson
Brandon Jennings
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: RJ87 on August 08, 2016, 02:25:53 PM
C: Demarcus Cousins
PF: Kelly Olynyk
SF: Omri Casspi
SG: Andrew Wiggins
PG: Kris Dunn

Thoughts?
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Denis998 on August 08, 2016, 03:34:35 PM
Reggie Jackson
CJ McCollum
Rondae Hollis-Jefferson
Blake Griffin
Gorgui Dieng------Joel Embiid

Thoughts so far?
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: max215 on August 08, 2016, 03:36:44 PM
George Hill
Victor Oladipo/Hezonja
Hayward
Thad Young/Dragan
Marc Gasol
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Celtic Fan Forever on August 08, 2016, 04:00:11 PM
C: Demarcus Cousins
PF: Kelly Olynyk
SF: Omri Casspi
SG: Andrew Wiggins
PG: Kris Dunn

Thoughts?

I really like the shooting from the forward spots, definitely helps open up the paint for Boogie and driving lanes for Wiggins. Would like to see you add a little more defense upfront in the upcoming rounds.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Celtic Fan Forever on August 08, 2016, 04:04:36 PM
Reggie Jackson
CJ McCollum
Rondae Hollis-Jefferson
Blake Griffin
Gorgui Dieng------Joel Embiid

Thoughts so far?

I like this team. Reggie and CJ will be great running the pick and roll with Blake, and RHJ adds some needed wing defense. I'd ideally add another 3 and D guy or a stretch 4 in order to play Blake at 5 when you go small.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on August 08, 2016, 04:05:40 PM
The Utah Jazz is starting to become a team.

C: Jonas Valanciunas
F: Karl-Anthony Towns
F: Wilson Chandler / Quincy Pondexter
G: Khris Middleton
G: Derrick Rose / Shaun Livingston

Have at it, ladies and gents.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: The Walker Wiggle on August 08, 2016, 04:06:43 PM
I’m just now catching up with Round 6, still wanted to co-sign the best picks of the round.

Pick 6.29 the Atlanta Hawks select Tyson Chandler

#1 Why weren’t guys running up the walls on this one? Maybe Tyson Chandler can’t give you 35 minutes a night anymore, but he’s a starting caliber center, former NBA champion, former DPOY, who can give you a double-double in 26 minutes per (from Feburary through the end of the season, he put up 9.5 PTS and 9.3 REB while shooting 67.5% from the floor - 89.8% ON ALLEY-OOPS). Who else is grabbing 20 rebounds in one night? Drummond? DeAndre? Hassan?

The Utah Jazz is happy to select Shaun Livingston for the 6.12th pick.

Need a solid backup with Derrick Rose on the team, and there's nothing more solid than S.Dot.

#2 I’m as happy with Yoki’s Livingston pick as I am down on his Derrick Rose pick. In fact, Shaun could teach Derrick a thing or two, as a franchise talent forced to remake his game following a series of career threatening injuries. One of four guys I was looking at with 5.29.

Houston takes Gary Harris at 6.4.

#3 And this was the third. I took Crabbe because he can credibly give me some minutes at the 3 and he edges out Harris as a shooter, but Gary has the higher ceiling (His eFG% leapt from 35.3% to 53.8% last year!) and is already among the league’s best striping ball handlers on the perimeter.  I was so disappointed when Ainge passed on him for James Young.

With the 16th pick in the 6th round the Dallas Mavericks select Josh Richardson

Honorable mention. I wasn’t looking at him in Round 6 but I’m high on this rook.

My worst picks?

The Toronto Raptors select Jaylen Brown with 6.9

I hope to be wrong, but I fully expect Jaylen to bust. Poor shooting, poor decision making, elite athleticism but not elite size. Worst of all, just not that fun to watch last year. What’s his absolute ceiling, short Corey Maggette?

Miami/KG Living Legend sent me a list... at 6.18 he takes Jerami Grant

I love his aggression and he comes from great stock, but it’s hard to envision Grant as more than defensive specialist /9th man on a competitive team.


Worst post of the 6th round:

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If Who is our most astute commentator, MK has been our most entertaining. He’s just not in game shape. Sad.

Oog Ogg.

Fixed.

(http://s.ecrater.com/stores/75577/4932c3025caed_75577b.jpg)

Hey, Gainesville is running the least controversial CB Draft I’ve ever been a part of and still posting gems on the fly. Appreciate it while it happens you heathens. 
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: pearljammer10 on August 08, 2016, 04:07:38 PM
New look Boston Celtics under coach Brad Stevens:

PG: Tony Parker
SG: Alec Burks/Manu Ginobili
SF: Al Farouq-Aminu/Jared Dudley
PF: Dirk Nowitzki
C:  Deandre Jordan

Thoughts?
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on August 08, 2016, 04:09:33 PM
New look Boston Celtics under coach Brad Stevens:

PG: Tony Parker
SG: Alec Burks/Manu Ginobili
SF: Al Farouq-Aminu/Jared Dudley
PF: Dirk Nowitzki
C:  Deandre Jordan

Thoughts?

I hate this team because you picked The Chief. He was supposed to be a Jazz.

Thats all I have to say.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: wdleehi on August 08, 2016, 04:17:21 PM

The Now Knicks

PG  Irving
SG C. Lee
SF Shabazz Muhammad
PF Marcus Morris
C  Drummond


Bench
SG Hield
PF/C Sullinger
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: pearljammer10 on August 08, 2016, 04:18:11 PM
"I hope to be wrong, but I fully expect Jaylen to bust. Poor shooting, poor decision making, elite athleticism but not elite size. Worst of all, just not that fun to watch last year. What’s his absolute ceiling, short Corey Maggette?"

Corey Maggette had career averages of 16 points, 5 rebounds and 2 assists per game and shot 32% from three. His best years he was a 22 and 6 guy. He was also a knucklehead. Jaylen Brown has an incredible work ethic and mentality and I would be estatic if he produces like Corey Maggette.

Brown is also 1-2 inches bigger than Maggette so I don't see the ceiling comparison.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: snively on August 08, 2016, 04:23:41 PM
The Magic putting together a killer team.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Celtic Fan Forever on August 08, 2016, 04:23:52 PM
Thoughts on the Magic after 7 rounds?

C: Nikola Jokic / Ian Mahinmi
F: Mirza Teletovic
F: Paul George / Tyreke Evans
G: Kent Bazemore
G: Patrick Beverley / Patty Mills
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Celtic Fan Forever on August 08, 2016, 04:26:02 PM
The Magic putting together a killer team.

Thanks, Bulls are looking pretty strong as well. Definitely looking at a potential playoff battle at some point. I just hope you guys blow a 3-1 lead and Durant hops to Orlando  ;D
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: riah32 on August 08, 2016, 04:42:39 PM
Not sure how I feel about my team? Willing to blow it all up if it makes sense.

Pg: Rondo/Muddiay
Sg:Butler
Sf: Barnes
Pf:Faried/Jerebko
C: Gobert
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: snively on August 08, 2016, 04:45:55 PM
Not sure how I feel about my team? Willing to blow it all up if it makes sense.

Pg: Rondo/Muddiay
Sg:Butler
Sf: Barnes
Pf:Faried/Jerebko
C: Gobert

Start Jerebko (or bring in another wing to push Barnes down to PF) and I like it quite a bit.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: KGs Knee on August 08, 2016, 04:55:58 PM
Charlotte Hornets

Coach: Steve Clifford

C- Andrew Bogut
F- Al Horford
F- Chandler Parsons
G- JR Smith
G- Mike Conley Jr

Bench: PJ Tucker, Tyler Johnson


I dunno, I really like this team.

Just missing a good combo forward so you can get Horford some more time at the 5 (not hard since Bogut is such a short minute guy nowadays).

How about now?
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: snively on August 08, 2016, 04:59:20 PM
Charlotte Hornets

Coach: Steve Clifford

C- Andrew Bogut
F- Al Horford
F- Chandler Parsons
G- JR Smith
G- Mike Conley Jr

Bench: PJ Tucker, Tyler Johnson


I dunno, I really like this team.

Just missing a good combo forward so you can get Horford some more time at the 5 (not hard since Bogut is such a short minute guy nowadays).

How about now?

Yeah, I like Tucker's physical toughness with this group. Nice guy to pit against the power 3s/quick 4s that are too much for Parsons.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: The Walker Wiggle on August 08, 2016, 05:04:24 PM
Yeah, I like Tucker's physical toughness with this group. Nice guy to pit against the power 3s/quick 4s that are too much for Parsons.

Snively, you've been doing nice work this draft. Real recognizes real.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BEfIX1YCQAA0B3d.jpg)
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: snively on August 08, 2016, 05:06:01 PM
Yeah, I like Tucker's physical toughness with this group. Nice guy to pit against the power 3s/quick 4s that are too much for Parsons.

Snively, you've been doing nice work this draft. Real recognizes real.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BEfIX1YCQAA0B3d.jpg)

Still peeved you got Nerlens.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Celtic Fan Forever on August 08, 2016, 05:06:58 PM
Thoughts on the Magic after 7 rounds?

C: Nikola Jokic / Ian Mahinmi
F: Mirza Teletovic
F: Paul George / Tyreke Evans
G: Kent Bazemore
G: Patrick Beverley / Patty Mills


No thoughts on Orlando?
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: KGs Knee on August 08, 2016, 05:08:05 PM
The Magic putting together a killer team.

Yeah, I just now realized LeBron James and Paul George are both in my division.

[shakes fist in disgust]
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: snively on August 08, 2016, 05:17:21 PM
Thoughts on the Magic after 7 rounds?

C: Nikola Jokic / Ian Mahinmi
F: Mirza Teletovic
F: Paul George / Tyreke Evans
G: Kent Bazemore
G: Patrick Beverley / Patty Mills


No thoughts on Orlando?

Really great mix of talents. Love having dynamic shot creators like Tyreke and Puppy Mills to balance out the 3/D Bazemore/Beverley tandem. Then getting a defender like Mahinmi to back up Jokic.

Worried a bit about your PF spot, but there's some good talent out there to shore that up.

Another concern that just came to me is Vogel and how he struggled to optimize a similar roster with Indy last year (with Monta and Tyreke in similar roles). But I think Jokic does a lot to alleviate that. Indy didn't have anybody like him last year. The passing and post-up game. Should alleviate some of the pressure on the backcourt.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Who on August 08, 2016, 05:18:09 PM
Thoughts on the Magic after 7 rounds?

C: Nikola Jokic / Ian Mahinmi
F: Mirza Teletovic
F: Paul George / Tyreke Evans
G: Kent Bazemore
G: Patrick Beverley / Patty Mills


No thoughts on Orlando?

I love the contrast of Beverley / Mills.

Beverley more of a stopper, a defensive orientated PG. Then Patty Mills with a burst of offense and 3 pointers off the bench. Great change of style options.

Mills will work great next to Tyreke Evans as well. Worked very well off of Manu Ginobili when Ginobili was creating off the dribble. Comfortable off the ball.

I love the fit. The chemistry. Of those relationships.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: green_bballers13 on August 08, 2016, 05:20:59 PM
I wanted to wait til this afternoon before I put my team out there to be critiqued:

Toronto Raptors

Guards: Steph Curry, Marcus Smart, Ray Allen
Wings: Paul Pierce, Jaylen Brown
Bigs: B. Lopez, Bobby Portis, Ersan Illyasova, KG

I could use another useful wing, backup center, and backup pg. Picks 8.2 and 10.2 are available.

Any thoughts on this team so far?
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Celtic Fan Forever on August 08, 2016, 05:28:30 PM
I wanted to wait til this afternoon before I put my team out there to be critiqued:

Toronto Raptors

Guards: Steph Curry, Marcus Smart, Ray Allen
Wings: Paul Pierce, Jaylen Brown
Bigs: B. Lopez, Bobby Portis, Ersan Illyasova, KG

I could use another useful wing, backup center, and backup pg. Picks 8.2 and 10.2 are available.

Any thoughts on this team so far?

As much as I absolutely love the big 3 reunion, I think you reached on all 3 of them. I'm a big fan of the Smart/Curry backcourt, and I like how Lopez fits next to Ilyasova/Portis. I think you need a good 3 and D wing, one of your 3's is too young and the other is too old  ;D
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: snively on August 08, 2016, 05:29:46 PM
I wanted to wait til this afternoon before I put my team out there to be critiqued:

Toronto Raptors

Guards: Steph Curry, Marcus Smart, Ray Allen
Wings: Paul Pierce, Jaylen Brown
Bigs: B. Lopez, Bobby Portis, Ersan Illyasova, KG

I could use another useful wing, backup center, and backup pg. Picks 8.2 and 10.2 are available.

Any thoughts on this team so far?

Smart will benefit hugely from playing with Curry - will open up all kinds of lanes for him and allow him to be a much better playmaker than he's been so far.

And the Curry Lopez pick and roll will be deadly. Lopez is an incredible finisher out of pick and roll.

My issues are the defensive issues you've got popping everywhere in your frontcourt. Lopez really slow and a bad fit with other slow guys (Pierce, Ersan).

Then going so green with Portis and Jaylen - both guys not ready for featured roles at this point in their careers.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Kane3387 on August 08, 2016, 05:38:09 PM
Cleveland Cavaliers

 C: Greg Monroe
PF: Serge Ibaka
SF: Joe Johnson
SG: Brandon Knight
PG: Andre Igoudala

Bench:

Kyle Korver
Thabo Sefolosha
Al Jefferson
Taj Gibson
Brandon Jennings
Michael Carter Williams
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: green_bballers13 on August 08, 2016, 05:38:10 PM
I agree with your thoughts at SF. I do think people are largely pessimistic of Jaylen Brown's ability. I think that he can come in and play defense today. I will roll out more of my team philosophy during the Press Conferences, but when JB is put on a leash (ie passing to a shooter like Steph instead of taking the 3), he can be a useful player, especially if he and Smart are both guarding the other team's best scorers.

The Big 3 are old, so they won't be playing much until the playoffs (not even 20 mpg). They are on limited minutes to mentor the young players. Given this experience, Smart and Brown should be able to come in off the bench to contribute high energy minutes in the playoffs.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Kane3387 on August 08, 2016, 05:38:40 PM
Cleveland Cavaliers

 C: Greg Monroe
PF: Serge Ibaka
SF: Joe Johnson
SG: Brandon Knight
PG: Andre Igoudala

Bench:

Kyle Korver
Thabo Sefolosha
Al Jefferson
Taj Gibson
Brandon Jennings
Michael Carter Williams

Bump
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Who on August 08, 2016, 05:39:47 PM
Is it just me or does the the quality of the backup PGs kinda stink from here on out?

I had no idea how much weaker the PG position his now vs a few years ago.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Celtic Fan Forever on August 08, 2016, 05:40:43 PM
Cleveland Cavaliers

 C: Greg Monroe
PF: Serge Ibaka
SF: Joe Johnson
SG: Brandon Knight
PG: Andre Igoudala

Bench:

Kyle Korver
Thabo Sefolosha
Al Jefferson
Taj Gibson
Brandon Jennings
Michael Carter Williams

Very solid, deep team. Good combo of shooters/scorers (Korver, Jennings, Knight, Johnson), Low post bigs (Monroe, Big Al), and defense (Ibaka, Sefolosha, Iggy, Gibson). I worry about the lack of star power, who is your go to guy in crunch time?
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Celtic Fan Forever on August 08, 2016, 05:41:41 PM
Is it just me or does the the quality of the backup PGs kinda stink from here on out?

I had no idea how much weaker the PG position his now vs a few years ago.

Yup, meanwhile the quality of back-up bigs is the strongest I've seen it.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Kane3387 on August 08, 2016, 05:45:33 PM
Cleveland Cavaliers

 C: Greg Monroe
PF: Serge Ibaka
SF: Joe Johnson
SG: Brandon Knight
PG: Andre Igoudala

Bench:

Kyle Korver
Thabo Sefolosha
Al Jefferson
Taj Gibson
Brandon Jennings
Michael Carter Williams

Very solid, deep team. Good combo of shooters/scorers (Korver, Jennings, Knight, Johnson), Low post bigs (Monroe, Big Al), and defense (Ibaka, Sefolosha, Iggy, Gibson). I worry about the lack of star power, who is your go to guy in crunch time?

There really isn't a specific one. Don't mind putting the ball in Joe johnsons hand but matchups and what guy is rolling or exploiting his matchup the best would be the first option.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: snively on August 08, 2016, 06:00:22 PM
Is it just me or does the the quality of the backup PGs kinda stink from here on out?

I had no idea how much weaker the PG position his now vs a few years ago.

The last few drafts have been PG wastelands - making it tough to find quality back-ups to replace the guys who are aging out. Keeping a lot of mediocre journeymen in the pool.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: wdleehi on August 08, 2016, 07:14:12 PM

The Now Knicks

PG  Irving
SG C. Lee
SF Shabazz Muhammad
PF Marcus Morris
C  Drummond


Bench
SG Hield
PF/C Sullinger


No comments?
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: wdleehi on August 08, 2016, 07:15:44 PM
Thoughts on the Magic after 7 rounds?

C: Nikola Jokic / Ian Mahinmi
F: Mirza Teletovic
F: Paul George / Tyreke Evans
G: Kent Bazemore
G: Patrick Beverley / Patty Mills


No thoughts on Orlando?


I think you need Evans playmaking ability in the starting lineup.

Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: wdleehi on August 08, 2016, 07:18:52 PM
I wanted to wait til this afternoon before I put my team out there to be critiqued:

Toronto Raptors

Guards: Steph Curry, Marcus Smart, Ray Allen
Wings: Paul Pierce, Jaylen Brown
Bigs: B. Lopez, Bobby Portis, Ersan Illyasova, KG

I could use another useful wing, backup center, and backup pg. Picks 8.2 and 10.2 are available.

Any thoughts on this team so far?

With Curry, you really need a starting quality SF.   Right now, your options are to far out of the prime.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: wdleehi on August 08, 2016, 07:20:38 PM
Cleveland Cavaliers

 C: Greg Monroe
PF: Serge Ibaka
SF: Joe Johnson
SG: Brandon Knight
PG: Andre Igoudala

Bench:

Kyle Korver
Thabo Sefolosha
Al Jefferson
Taj Gibson
Brandon Jennings
Michael Carter Williams


I think you are set up to make a trade to condense the talent. 
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: wdleehi on August 08, 2016, 07:30:42 PM
The Utah Jazz is starting to become a team.

C: Jonas Valanciunas
F: Karl-Anthony Towns
F: Wilson Chandler / Quincy Pondexter
G: Khris Middleton
G: Derrick Rose / Shaun Livingston

Have at it, ladies and gents.


I like Towns.  I would look for a good smaller PF as the third big man to finish the rotation. 
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on August 08, 2016, 07:48:02 PM
The Utah Jazz is starting to become a team.

C: Jonas Valanciunas
F: Karl-Anthony Towns
F: Wilson Chandler / Quincy Pondexter
G: Khris Middleton
G: Derrick Rose / Shaun Livingston

Have at it, ladies and gents.


I like Towns.  I would look for a good smaller PF as the third big man to finish the rotation.

That's the plan, the idea is to start Jonas and KAT with a 3rd big (a PF who can play small ball hopefully) and just stagger the positions.

Unfortunately, the target was Jonas Jerebko and he has been picked, so I need to shuffle the remaining names and see if there's someone who can slot in as the 3rd big. There are about 3 more names I see there, hopefully any of them land at 8.12.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: snively on August 08, 2016, 07:59:00 PM
The Utah Jazz is starting to become a team.

C: Jonas Valanciunas
F: Karl-Anthony Towns
F: Wilson Chandler / Quincy Pondexter
G: Khris Middleton
G: Derrick Rose / Shaun Livingston

Have at it, ladies and gents.


I like Towns.  I would look for a good smaller PF as the third big man to finish the rotation.

That's the plan, the idea is to start Jonas and KAT with a 3rd big (a PF who can play small ball hopefully) and just stagger the positions.

Unfortunately, the target was Jonas Jerebko and he has been picked, so I need to shuffle the remaining names and see if there's someone who can slot in as the 3rd big. There are about 3 more names I see there, hopefully any of them land at 8.12.

Sorry, but I plan on taking all 3 with my next pick.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on August 08, 2016, 08:03:10 PM
The Utah Jazz is starting to become a team.

C: Jonas Valanciunas
F: Karl-Anthony Towns
F: Wilson Chandler / Quincy Pondexter
G: Khris Middleton
G: Derrick Rose / Shaun Livingston

Have at it, ladies and gents.


I like Towns.  I would look for a good smaller PF as the third big man to finish the rotation.

That's the plan, the idea is to start Jonas and KAT with a 3rd big (a PF who can play small ball hopefully) and just stagger the positions.

Unfortunately, the target was Jonas Jerebko and he has been picked, so I need to shuffle the remaining names and see if there's someone who can slot in as the 3rd big. There are about 3 more names I see there, hopefully any of them land at 8.12.

Sorry, but I plan on taking all 3 with my next pick.

I will quit. I swear.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on August 08, 2016, 08:43:27 PM

The Now Knicks

PG  Irving
SG C. Lee
SF Shabazz Muhammad
PF Marcus Morris
C  Drummond


Bench
SG Hield
PF/C Sullinger


No comments?

I'll give one.

Good to great team. There's enough balance of offense and defense to make a deep run with this team.

Love Courtney Lee here (my pick that you stole), he relieves Kyrie of the tough defensive assignment in case he gets matched up vs quicker PG's.

I dig Shabazz Muhammad here. He plays on the block mostly as a PF in a SF spot. Likes to post and attack the offensive boards. There's enough spacing to accommodate his inside heavy game and Drummond's.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Evantime34 on August 08, 2016, 08:53:22 PM
I'm really regretting the series of deals I made to move out of the 6th and 7th. It looks like talent is going to drop off a cliff sooner rather than later.

Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Gainesville Celtic on August 08, 2016, 11:04:08 PM
PG - Kemba Walker / Cory Joseph
SG - Josh Richardson / E'Twaun Moore
SF - Otto Porter / Matt Barnes
PF - Derrick Favors / Zach Randolph
C - Marcin Gortat / (Favors)

I've come to really like how this team has come together. Agree/disagree?
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: RJ87 on August 09, 2016, 08:55:00 AM
PG - Kemba Walker / Cory Joseph
SG - Josh Richardson / E'Twaun Moore
SF - Otto Porter / Matt Barnes
PF - Derrick Favors / Zach Randolph
C - Marcin Gortat / (Favors)

I've come to really like how this team has come together. Agree/disagree?

A lot of length. Would probably be a great defensive squad. I do worry about them being able to score enough oustide of Kemba.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: RJ87 on August 09, 2016, 08:59:00 AM
Thoughts on the Magic after 7 rounds?

C: Nikola Jokic / Ian Mahinmi
F: Mirza Teletovic
F: Paul George / Tyreke Evans
G: Kent Bazemore
G: Patrick Beverley / Patty Mills


No thoughts on Orlando?


I think you need Evans playmaking ability in the starting lineup.

Yeah, I'd actually consider starting Evans at PG.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Gainesville Celtic on August 09, 2016, 09:03:51 AM
Thoughts on the Magic after 7 rounds?

C: Nikola Jokic / Ian Mahinmi
F: Mirza Teletovic
F: Paul George / Tyreke Evans
G: Kent Bazemore
G: Patrick Beverley / Patty Mills


No thoughts on Orlando?


I think you need Evans playmaking ability in the starting lineup.

Yeah, I'd actually consider starting Evans at PG.

I've heard/read in multiple outlets that N.O. is going into the season assuming that Tyreke isn't going to play/contribute this year at all:

http://www.sportingnews.com/nba/news/pelicans-tyreke-evans-knee-injury-new-orleans-pelicans-miss-start-of-season/k7bwluswcqfw1bkgdd161y2ij

Quote
"He's not going to be ready for the start of the season," coach Alvin Gentry said, via The Lowe Post podcast. "So that's hard. He won't be ready for the start of the season. He's in a rehab situation. So, I think for us, we've just got to move forward with our season. And then if he comes back and he's able to help us, I think that just adds icing to the cake."
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Celtic Fan Forever on August 09, 2016, 09:27:50 AM
Thoughts on the Magic after 7 rounds?

C: Nikola Jokic / Ian Mahinmi
F: Mirza Teletovic
F: Paul George / Tyreke Evans
G: Kent Bazemore
G: Patrick Beverley / Patty Mills


No thoughts on Orlando?


I think you need Evans playmaking ability in the starting lineup.

Yeah, I'd actually consider starting Evans at PG.

I've heard/read in multiple outlets that N.O. is going into the season assuming that Tyreke isn't going to play/contribute this year at all:

http://www.sportingnews.com/nba/news/pelicans-tyreke-evans-knee-injury-new-orleans-pelicans-miss-start-of-season/k7bwluswcqfw1bkgdd161y2ij

Quote
"He's not going to be ready for the start of the season," coach Alvin Gentry said, via The Lowe Post podcast. "So that's hard. He won't be ready for the start of the season. He's in a rehab situation. So, I think for us, we've just got to move forward with our season. And then if he comes back and he's able to help us, I think that just adds icing to the cake."

You clearly haven't seen his Instagram GC. The guy's been working out like crazy, and the Orlando trainers will have him ready sooner than later.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Gainesville Celtic on August 09, 2016, 09:35:21 AM
Thoughts on the Magic after 7 rounds?

C: Nikola Jokic / Ian Mahinmi
F: Mirza Teletovic
F: Paul George / Tyreke Evans
G: Kent Bazemore
G: Patrick Beverley / Patty Mills


No thoughts on Orlando?


I think you need Evans playmaking ability in the starting lineup.

Yeah, I'd actually consider starting Evans at PG.

I've heard/read in multiple outlets that N.O. is going into the season assuming that Tyreke isn't going to play/contribute this year at all:

http://www.sportingnews.com/nba/news/pelicans-tyreke-evans-knee-injury-new-orleans-pelicans-miss-start-of-season/k7bwluswcqfw1bkgdd161y2ij

Quote
"He's not going to be ready for the start of the season," coach Alvin Gentry said, via The Lowe Post podcast. "So that's hard. He won't be ready for the start of the season. He's in a rehab situation. So, I think for us, we've just got to move forward with our season. And then if he comes back and he's able to help us, I think that just adds icing to the cake."

You clearly haven't seen his Instagram GC. The guy's been working out like crazy, and the Orlando trainers will have him ready sooner than later.

You're right of my 820,281,995 IG follows, Tyreke didn't make the cut  ;D ;D
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: BigAlTheFuture on August 09, 2016, 10:23:16 AM
Russell Westbrook
Tony Allen
Trevor Ariza/Corey Brewer
Chris Bosh/Trey Lyles
Tristan Thompson

Let's make some trades...
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Celts Fan 508 on August 09, 2016, 11:29:58 AM
Ok have at it:

Hawks

1-  Dennis Schroder
2- DeMar DeRozan
3- Loul Deng
4- Kristaps Porzingis
5- Tyson Chandler

Bench
Lou Williams
TJ Warren
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Celtic Fan Forever on August 09, 2016, 11:41:16 AM
Ok have at it:

Hawks

1-  Dennis Schroder
2- DeMar DeRozan
3- Loul Deng
4- Kristaps Porzingis
5- Tyson Chandler

Bench
Lou Williams
TJ Warren

Solid pieces that fit pretty well together. I like Lou Will for instant offense off the bench, you can slide Porzingis to the 5 and go Schroeder/Lou/DeRozan/Deng/KP for smaller lineups. My main concern is its hard to tell just how Porzingis will develop, though the future does seem bright. I'd also bring in another good big man with your next pick since Tyson can't give you over 30 minutes a game these days.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Celts Fan 508 on August 09, 2016, 11:46:06 AM
Ok have at it:

Hawks

1-  Dennis Schroder
2- DeMar DeRozan
3- Loul Deng
4- Kristaps Porzingis
5- Tyson Chandler

Bench
Lou Williams
TJ Warren

Solid pieces that fit pretty well together. I like Lou Will for instant offense off the bench, you can slide Porzingis to the 5 and go Schroeder/Lou/DeRozan/Deng/KP for smaller lineups. My main concern is its hard to tell just how Porzingis will develop, though the future does seem bright. I'd also bring in another good big man with your next pick since Tyson can't give you over 30 minutes a game these days.

TP, I agree about needing more bigs.  I am a huge Porzingis fan, his skill set is so unique for a guy his size.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: snively on August 09, 2016, 11:52:32 AM
Love bucketgetter's Boban pick. My favorite player to watch in the league. Just a comically huge guy who moves in slow motion but plays hard, has great touch and dunks anything in an 8 foot radius of the hoop without leaving his feet.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: DinoGanga on August 09, 2016, 12:20:50 PM
WASHINGTON WIZARDS

PG Darren Collison - Elfrid Payton
SG Avery Bradley - Seth Curry
SF Jae Crowder -
PF LeBron James -
C  Jusuf Nurkic - Meyers Leonard

Thoughts?
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Bucketgetter on August 09, 2016, 12:21:21 PM
Love bucketgetter's Boban pick. My favorite player to watch in the league. Just a comically huge guy who moves in slow motion but plays hard, has great touch and dunks anything in an 8 foot radius of the hoop without leaving his feet.
That was my goal with the pick, to take someone you wanted because you took Capela from me!  :D
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: airbelinelli on August 09, 2016, 12:27:11 PM
WASHINGTON WIZARDS

PG Darren Collison - Elfrid Payton
SG Avery Bradley - Seth Curry
SF Jae Crowder -
PF LeBron James - Meyers Leonard
C  Jusuf Nurkic -

Thoughts?

Leonard is not a 4. He needs to be a stretch 5 which I think makes him an even better fit for your team.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: RJ87 on August 09, 2016, 12:35:31 PM
WASHINGTON WIZARDS

PG Darren Collison - Elfrid Payton
SG Avery Bradley - Seth Curry
SF Jae Crowder -
PF LeBron James - Meyers Leonard
C  Jusuf Nurkic -

Thoughts?

I love your frontcourt, but your PG rotation is too ball dominant. I think you have to start Leonard at the 5 for more spacing for Collison and Lebron.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Denis998 on August 09, 2016, 12:37:33 PM
Need some thoughts on my current roster, think everything is coming up Milhouse. Added a good back up pg in Ish, and a stretch 4 in Leuer.
Reggie Jackson - Ish Smith
CJ McCollum
Rondae Hollis-Jefferson
Blake Griffin - Jon Leuer
Gorgui Dieng - Joel Embiid

Not sure if I want to start Embiid, he should be healthy at the start of the season.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: snively on August 09, 2016, 01:03:42 PM
WASHINGTON WIZARDS

PG Darren Collison - Elfrid Payton
SG Avery Bradley - Seth Curry
SF Jae Crowder -
PF LeBron James - Meyers Leonard
C  Jusuf Nurkic -

Thoughts?

I love your frontcourt, but your PG rotation is too ball dominant. I think you have to start Leonard at the 5 for more spacing for Collison and Lebron.

I disagree on Leonard. I like Nurkic's bull in a china shop game better, and LeBron likes to play alongside a physical paint presence (Varejao/Thompson/Mozgov).

I think Collison/AB give pretty good spacing and Collison is used to playing off-ball. Crowder's less reliable but he's still a threat. Don't think Leonard's shooting is enough of a bump to sacrifice the physicality you get with Nurkic.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: snively on August 09, 2016, 01:04:21 PM
Need some thoughts on my current roster, think everything is coming up Milhouse. Added a good back up pg in Ish, and a stretch 4 in Leuer.
Reggie Jackson - Ish Smith
CJ McCollum
Rondae Hollis-Jefferson
Blake Griffin - Jon Leuer
Gorgui Dieng - Joel Embiid

Not sure if I want to start Embiid, he should be healthy at the start of the season.

Does Rondae count as his own back-up with the hyphenation?
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Kane3387 on August 09, 2016, 01:45:02 PM
WASHINGTON WIZARDS

PG Darren Collison - Elfrid Payton
SG Avery Bradley - Seth Curry
SF Jae Crowder -
PF LeBron James -
C  Jusuf Nurkic - Meyers Leonard

Thoughts?

You have Lebron. You're a contender. And likely the favorite to win it all. This team could use another creator tho. I see this team being a little too dependent on James to create all the offensive opportunity in the halfcourt. Kyrie Irving was a big help in Lebron winning a ring this year. I think at lebrons age and with the mileage he has accrued he needs another dude who can get his in isolation.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Celtic Fan Forever on August 09, 2016, 01:48:29 PM
WASHINGTON WIZARDS

PG Darren Collison - Elfrid Payton
SG Avery Bradley - Seth Curry
SF Jae Crowder -
PF LeBron James -
C  Jusuf Nurkic - Meyers Leonard

Thoughts?

You have Lebron. You're a contender. And likely the favorite to win it all. This team could use another creator tho. I see this team being a little too dependent on James to create all the offensive opportunity in the halfcourt. Kyrie Irving was a big help in Lebron winning a ring this year. I think at lebrons age and with the mileage he has accrued he needs another dude who can get his in isolation.


(http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/2665195/pg3.gif)

Better watch out LeBron
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: max215 on August 09, 2016, 01:51:07 PM
Anyone looking to build for the future?  I have Dragan Bender and am willing to discuss moving him.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Denis998 on August 09, 2016, 02:16:10 PM
Need some thoughts on my current roster, think everything is coming up Milhouse. Added a good back up pg in Ish, and a stretch 4 in Leuer.
Reggie Jackson - Ish Smith
CJ McCollum
Rondae Hollis-Jefferson
Blake Griffin - Jon Leuer
Gorgui Dieng - Joel Embiid

Not sure if I want to start Embiid, he should be healthy at the start of the season.

Does Rondae count as his own back-up with the hyphenation?
Yeah he essentially counts as two different people
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: snively on August 09, 2016, 02:30:57 PM
Need some thoughts on my current roster, think everything is coming up Milhouse. Added a good back up pg in Ish, and a stretch 4 in Leuer.
Reggie Jackson - Ish Smith
CJ McCollum
Rondae Hollis-Jefferson
Blake Griffin - Jon Leuer
Gorgui Dieng - Joel Embiid

Not sure if I want to start Embiid, he should be healthy at the start of the season.

Does Rondae count as his own back-up with the hyphenation?
Yeah he essentially counts as two different people

I was tempted to construct an All-Hyphen-Team (AHT).

MCW
KCP
MKG/RHJ
KAT
WCS

With 4 still undrafted guys to spare.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: nickagneta on August 09, 2016, 02:50:41 PM
Oklahoma City Thunder

PG: Jeff Teague
SG: Rodney Hood
SF: C. J. Miles
PF: Draymond Green
C: Mason Plumlee

Bench: Ryan Anderson, Leandro Barbosa, Jeremy Lamb
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Celtic Fan Forever on August 09, 2016, 02:52:09 PM
Need some thoughts on my current roster, think everything is coming up Milhouse. Added a good back up pg in Ish, and a stretch 4 in Leuer.
Reggie Jackson - Ish Smith
CJ McCollum
Rondae Hollis-Jefferson
Blake Griffin - Jon Leuer
Gorgui Dieng - Joel Embiid

Not sure if I want to start Embiid, he should be healthy at the start of the season.

Does Rondae count as his own back-up with the hyphenation?
Yeah he essentially counts as two different people

I was tempted to construct an All-Hyphen-Team (AHT).

MCW
KCP
MKG/RHJ
KAT
WCS

With 4 still undrafted guys to spare.

Are you planning on getting Pops Mensah-Bonsu's ban lifted and convincing him to come out of retirement?
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: RJ87 on August 09, 2016, 02:54:36 PM
Really hoping my guy falls to me at 9.24, but I'm not feeling confident :-\
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Celtic Fan Forever on August 09, 2016, 02:56:43 PM
Really hoping my guy falls to me at 9.24, but I'm not feeling confident :-\

Don't worry I'll pick him at 9.23 (probably not, all my guys were just picked)
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: airbelinelli on August 09, 2016, 03:09:15 PM
Haven't posted in awhile as I didn't pick for a bit. What do you guys think?

PG: Eric Bledsoe/ Jeremy Lin
SG: Bradley beal/ Gerald Henderson
SF: Justice Winslow/ Brandon Ingram
PF: Myles Turner/ Doug McDermott
C: Steven Adams/ Brandon Bass

I think this team fits together really well offering the right amount of shooting, pace, defense etc. I don't have a high level star but the total is more than the sum of the parts.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: AB_Celtic on August 09, 2016, 03:36:29 PM
Haven't posted in awhile as I didn't pick for a bit. What do you guys think?

PG: Eric Bledsoe/ Jeremy Lin
SG: Bradley beal/ Gerald Henderson
SF: Justice Winslow/ Brandon Ingram
PF: Myles Turner/ Doug McDermott
C: Steven Adams/ Brandon Bass

I think this team fits together really well offering the right amount of shooting, pace, defense etc. I don't have a high level star but the total is more than the sum of the parts.

I like the Bass pick -- gives you a mobile big man to put next to Turner at C when Adams isn't playing.

I hope the rotation you posted above is the way it is just because you want to have two at every position. In my mind, your rotation should look a lot more like:

PG: Bledsoe / Lin
SG: Beal / Henderson
SF: Winslow / McDermott / Ingram
PF: Turner / Bass
C: Adams

Utilize that three-man rotation at PF/C, with McDermott or Winslow taking spot minutes at PF.  Something like:

PF: Turner (20) / Bass (18) / Winslow (10)
C: Adams: (32) / Turner (16)

Lin and Henderson were both great pickups given injury concerns with Bledsoe and Beal. Both can start in their place.

You do have a lot of flexibility here, with the ability to floor shooting-first, defense-first, small ball, or huge ball teams. I think that's what I like most about the team.

Ingram is an enticing prospect but kind of the odd man out here.

Aim to pick up a deep bench big, preferably with the ability to knock down a three here and there.


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This message brought to you by a totally unbiased AB_C who hasn't provided input on any of these picks whatsoever.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: RJ87 on August 09, 2016, 03:40:47 PM
Really hoping my guy falls to me at 9.24, but I'm not feeling confident :-\

Don't worry I'll pick him at 9.23 (probably not, all my guys were just picked)



I'm going off the list KG Living Legend/Miami previously sent for pick 8.13...  :-\

Domantas Sabonis

And there he goes..
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: riah32 on August 09, 2016, 04:09:29 PM
My team is starting to round out nicely.

Rondo/Rivers
Butler/Muddiay
Harrison Barnes/ Beasely
Jerebko/Faried
Gobert

Starting Jerbko gives me spacing and allows Faried to bring some energy of the bench.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: airbelinelli on August 09, 2016, 04:17:40 PM
My team is starting to round out nicely.

Rondo/Rivers
Butler/Muddiay
Harrison Barnes/ Beasely
Jerebko/Faried
Gobert

Starting Jerbko gives me spacing and allows Faried to bring some energy of the bench.

Not quite sure I buy Muddiay as a shooting guard. He really needs the ball in his hand to be effective, and has not shown much talent shooting. I'd look to shift him to backup PG and get someone to fill in at the 2
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: riah32 on August 09, 2016, 04:23:29 PM
My team is starting to round out nicely.

Rondo/Rivers
Butler/Muddiay
Harrison Barnes/ Beasely
Jerebko/Faried
Gobert

Starting Jerbko gives me spacing and allows Faried to bring some energy of the bench.

Not quite sure I buy Muddiay as a shooting guard. He really needs the ball in his hand to be effective, and has not shown much talent shooting. I'd look to shift him to backup PG and get someone to fill in at the 2

Probably should have specified Muddiay will be guarding the SG position but will be the primary ball handler for the second unit.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Rondo2287 on August 09, 2016, 04:23:42 PM
LA Lakers

PG: Jrue Holiday/JJ Barea
SG: Wes Mathews/Kevin Martin/Dion Waiters
SF: Carmelo Anthony/Dion Waiters
PF: Lamarcus Aldridge/Melo
C: Zaza Pachulia / Kosta Koufos
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Celtic Fan Forever on August 09, 2016, 04:27:35 PM
Magic through 9 rounds:

C: Nikola Jokic / Ian Mahinmi
F: Mirza Teletovic / Kyle O'Quinn
F: Paul George / Tyreke Evans
G: Kent Bazemore / Terrence Ross
G: Patrick Beverley / Patty Mills


I like the way my team has shaped out. I got great shooters around Paul George (Mirza, Ross, Mills) guys that can help lock up the perimeter ( Bazemore, Beverley) a great 6th man in Tyreke, and probably one of the best back up bigs in the game in Mahinmi. Not to mention Jokic is criminally underrated and only going to get better, his playmaking abilities and skill at center will take a lot of pressure off PG13.

Thoughts? Concerns? Criticisms?
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: RJ87 on August 09, 2016, 04:34:06 PM
Through Round 9:

C: DeMarcus Cousins
PF: Kelly Olynyk
SF: Omri Casspi
SG: Andrew Wiggins
PG: Kris Dunn

Bench:
G: Jerryd Bayless
F/C: Nene Hilario

Starting to really like this team. I have to hit some homeruns with my late picks, but overall I like where it is.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Denis998 on August 09, 2016, 04:42:35 PM
Interesting fact is that my team features 3 current Pistons IRL.
How many players do you guys have that play for your team IRL?
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: BigAlTheFuture on August 09, 2016, 04:58:29 PM
Russell Westbrook/Trey Burke
Tony Allen/Corey Brewer
Trevor Ariza/Larry Nance Jr.
Chris Bosh/Trey Lyles
Tristan Thompson

DEFENSE
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: RJ87 on August 09, 2016, 05:04:23 PM
Russell Westbrook/Trey Burke
Tony Allen/Corey Brewer
Trevor Ariza/Larry Nance Jr.
Chris Bosh/Trey Lyles
Tristan Thompson

DEFENSE

Lots of defense, but you're going to need Ariza and Bosh to really step up from the 3pt line for optimal spacing for Russell Westbrook.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: KGs Knee on August 09, 2016, 05:24:33 PM
Charlotte Hornets

Coach: Steve Clifford

C- Andrew Bogut | Marreese Speights
F- Al Horford | PJ Tucker
F- Chandler Parsons | Joe Ingles
G- JR Smith | Tyler Johnson
G- Mike Conley Jr | Raul Neto

Probably not your biggest "names" coming off the bench, but they are pretty efficient players and good to very good three point shooters.  In fact, the only guy on this team that cant shoot three's is Bogut.  Everyone else is above 38% expect Horford (34%) and Conley (36%).
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Rondo2287 on August 09, 2016, 05:24:50 PM
Russell Westbrook/Trey Burke
Tony Allen/Corey Brewer
Trevor Ariza/Larry Nance Jr.
Chris Bosh/Trey Lyles
Tristan Thompson

DEFENSE

I'm not trying to be a jerk, but how can we be comfortable that Bosh is going to play this season?
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: KGs Knee on August 09, 2016, 05:31:31 PM
Russell Westbrook/Trey Burke
Tony Allen/Corey Brewer
Trevor Ariza/Larry Nance Jr.
Chris Bosh/Trey Lyles
Tristan Thompson

DEFENSE

I'm not trying to be a jerk, but how can we be comfortable that Bosh is going to play this season?

I listed him (in my mind) before the draft as "out" indefinitely.

But I feel the same, I honestly don't know what to do.  I don't want to be mean about it.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: KGs Knee on August 09, 2016, 05:32:39 PM
Otherwise, BigAl's Sun's are top notch.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: snively on August 09, 2016, 05:34:26 PM
Russell Westbrook/Trey Burke
Tony Allen/Corey Brewer
Trevor Ariza/Larry Nance Jr.
Chris Bosh/Trey Lyles
Tristan Thompson

DEFENSE

I'm not trying to be a jerk, but how can we be comfortable that Bosh is going to play this season?

I listed him (in my mind) before the draft as "out" indefinitely.

But I feel the same, I honestly don't know what to do.  I don't want to be mean about it.

Well I do want to be mean about it. Barring new info, nobody should expect Bosh to play.

Kevin Durant asked me to pass along his gratitude for sabotaging Russell Westbrook.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Who on August 09, 2016, 05:35:09 PM
Charlotte Hornets

Coach: Steve Clifford

C- Andrew Bogut | Marreese Speights
F- Al Horford | PJ Tucker
F- Chandler Parsons | Joe Ingles
G- JR Smith | Tyler Johnson
G- Mike Conley Jr | Raul Neto

Probably not your biggest "names" coming off the bench, but they are pretty efficient players and good to very good three point shooters.  In fact, the only guy on this team that cant shoot three's is Bogut.  Everyone else is above 38% expect Horford (34%) and Conley (36%).

I like the look of Raul Neto. Got some quickness and feistiness to him. A competitor.

I think he can do more outside of that clogged Utah Jazz offense as well.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on August 09, 2016, 05:35:30 PM
This is the Utah Jazz roster after 9 rounds

C: Jonas Valanciunas
 
F: Karl-Anthony Town / Mike Scott

F: Wilson Chandler / Quincy Pondexter

F: Khris Middleton / Jonathon Simmons

G: Derrick Rose / Shaun Livingston


Seems like a decent, fun team.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Who on August 09, 2016, 05:38:40 PM
Through Round 9:

C: DeMarcus Cousins
PF: Kelly Olynyk
SF: Omri Casspi
SG: Andrew Wiggins
PG: Kris Dunn

Bench:
G: Jerryd Bayless
F/C: Nene Hilario

Starting to really like this team. I have to hit some homeruns with my late picks, but overall I like where it is.

I like the small ball option there

C: Cousins
F: Casspi
F: Wiggins
G: Bayless
G: Dunn

I also love the idea of Cousins & Nene alongside one another against bigger frontlines.
And Olynyk can work so well alongside either Cousins or Nene.
Strong big man rotation.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: KGs Knee on August 09, 2016, 05:45:56 PM
This is the Utah Jazz roster after 9 rounds

C: Jonas Valanciunas
 
F: Karl-Anthony Town / Mike Scott

F: Wilson Chandler / Quincy Pondexter

F: Khris Middleton / Jonathon Simmons

G: Derrick Rose / Shaun Livingston


Seems like a decent, fun team.

I like the balance of this roster very much.  But I just realized, neither of your SF's played last year.  I assume both are good to go this year, but I'll be interested to hear what you expect from them in your presser.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: BigAlTheFuture on August 09, 2016, 05:46:04 PM
-patiently waiting for Woj to report that Bosh will play next season before he CB Draft voting starts-
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: RJ87 on August 09, 2016, 05:49:09 PM
Through Round 9:

C: DeMarcus Cousins
PF: Kelly Olynyk
SF: Omri Casspi
SG: Andrew Wiggins
PG: Kris Dunn

Bench:
G: Jerryd Bayless
F/C: Nene Hilario

Starting to really like this team. I have to hit some homeruns with my late picks, but overall I like where it is.

I like the small ball option there

C: Cousins
F: Casspi
F: Wiggins
G: Bayless
G: Dunn

I also love the idea of Cousins & Nene alongside one another against bigger frontlines.
And Olynyk can work so well alongside either Cousins or Nene.
Strong big man rotation.

I was considering starting Bayless and moving Casspi to the bench because he does so well in that role IRL. Never thought about moving Olynyk to the bench, but now I'm seriously considering it.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: BigAlTheFuture on August 09, 2016, 05:59:27 PM
Russell Westbrook/Trey Burke
Tony Allen/Corey Brewer
Trevor Ariza/Larry Nance Jr.
Chris Bosh/Trey Lyles
Tristan Thompson

DEFENSE

I'm not trying to be a jerk, but how can we be comfortable that Bosh is going to play this season?

Coming from Chris Bosh's DKC owner. I commend you sir.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: KGs Knee on August 09, 2016, 06:02:08 PM
Russell Westbrook/Trey Burke
Tony Allen/Corey Brewer
Trevor Ariza/Larry Nance Jr.
Chris Bosh/Trey Lyles
Tristan Thompson

DEFENSE

I'm not trying to be a jerk, but how can we be comfortable that Bosh is going to play this season?

Coming from Chris Bosh's DKC owner. I commend you sir.

Well, all of us over there (collectively) did tell him the same thing, "NO Bosh".

Fair is fair.

But yeah, if you can prove otherwise, I'll listen.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on August 09, 2016, 06:03:00 PM
This is the Utah Jazz roster after 9 rounds

C: Jonas Valanciunas
 
F: Karl-Anthony Town / Mike Scott

F: Wilson Chandler / Quincy Pondexter

F: Khris Middleton / Jonathon Simmons

G: Derrick Rose / Shaun Livingston


Seems like a decent, fun team.

I like the balance of this roster very much.  But I just realized, neither of your SF's played last year.  I assume both are good to go this year, but I'll be interested to hear what you expect from them in your presser.

Glad you mentioned about Wilson Chandler's and Q-Pon's health concerns.

http://www.denverpost.com/2016/07/07/wilson-chandler-denver-nuggets-hip-rehab/

Some interesting tidbit here.

Quote
He was cleared to play 5-on-5 in June.

As for Pondexter...

http://www.cbssports.com/fantasy/basketball/news/pelicans-quincy-pondexter-expected-to-be-healthy-for-training-camp/

Quote
The 28-year-old expects to be 100 percent healthy by the time training camp for the upcoming season begins in the fall.

It's reasonable to expect for them to start slow as they could be rusty, but they should be good to go.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: BigAlTheFuture on August 09, 2016, 06:04:41 PM
Russell Westbrook/Trey Burke
Tony Allen/Corey Brewer
Trevor Ariza/Larry Nance Jr.
Chris Bosh/Trey Lyles
Tristan Thompson

DEFENSE

I'm not trying to be a jerk, but how can we be comfortable that Bosh is going to play this season?

Coming from Chris Bosh's DKC owner. I commend you sir.

Well, all of us over there (collectively) did tell him the same thing, "NO Bosh".

Fair is fair.

But yeah, if you can prove otherwise, I'll listen.

True -
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Kane3387 on August 09, 2016, 07:04:30 PM
Cleveland Cavaliers

 C: Greg Monroe
PF: Serge Ibaka
SF: Joe Johnson
SG: Brandon Knight
PG: Andre Igoudala

Bench:

Kyle Korver
Thabo Sefolosha
Al Jefferson
Taj Gibson
Brandon Jennings
Michael Carter Williams
Richard Jefferson
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Who on August 09, 2016, 07:26:34 PM
Cleveland Cavaliers

 C: Greg Monroe
PF: Serge Ibaka
SF: Joe Johnson
SG: Brandon Knight
PG: Andre Igoudala

Bench:

Kyle Korver
Thabo Sefolosha
Al Jefferson
Taj Gibson
Brandon Jennings
Michael Carter Williams
Richard Jefferson

Why start Joe Johnson over Kyle Korver?

I'm not sure JJ is better than Korver anymore. I think Korver is more mobile in team defense. JJ a bit more physical man-to-man defender. Similar rebounders. JJ a better handle and passer off the dribble. Korver demands more attention off the ball. Better mover off the ball. Better shooter and more efficient. JJ a bit more of a varied scorer but not sure how much you want him creating one-on-one because his efficiency takes a hit.

I mean, you have Iggy and B.Knight doing the majority of the ball-handling and playmaking already. Then G.Monroe in the post. Is JJ's more varied offensive game more valuable in this situation than Korver's higher efficiency sniping?

I am not sure. It is close but I think I'd go with Korver over JJ.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: wdleehi on August 09, 2016, 07:31:02 PM
Cleveland Cavaliers

 C: Greg Monroe
PF: Serge Ibaka
SF: Joe Johnson
SG: Brandon Knight
PG: Andre Igoudala

Bench:

Kyle Korver
Thabo Sefolosha
Al Jefferson
Taj Gibson
Brandon Jennings
Michael Carter Williams
Richard Jefferson



Very deep, but no one that will likely make the difference deep in the playoffs. 


Playoffs, probably.   (honestly, until we compare teams, hard to know)

Title contender, not without a big move.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: wdleehi on August 09, 2016, 07:33:08 PM
LA Lakers

PG: Jrue Holiday/JJ Barea
SG: Wes Mathews/Kevin Martin/Dion Waiters
SF: Carmelo Anthony/Dion Waiters
PF: Lamarcus Aldridge/Melo
C: Zaza Pachulia / Kosta Koufos

I believe it is a playoff level team but needs a defensive swing off the bench. 


I also think Koufos is the better C.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: wdleehi on August 09, 2016, 07:35:14 PM
Through Round 9:

C: DeMarcus Cousins
PF: Kelly Olynyk
SF: Omri Casspi
SG: Andrew Wiggins
PG: Kris Dunn

Bench:
G: Jerryd Bayless
F/C: Nene Hilario

Starting to really like this team. I have to hit some homeruns with my late picks, but overall I like where it is.


Definitely a team that has future success.  I don't like Nene as the main reserve big man though.  He is a big man physically breaking down.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: wdleehi on August 09, 2016, 07:37:36 PM
Russell Westbrook/Trey Burke
Tony Allen/Corey Brewer
Trevor Ariza/Larry Nance Jr.
Chris Bosh/Trey Lyles
Tristan Thompson

DEFENSE


If Bosh was to ever come back (which I don't think will happen)  a dangerous team.   Without him, a less talented team then when Westbrook had to lead the Thunder without Durrant.   Great individual stats, but the team results not as great.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: wdleehi on August 09, 2016, 07:39:06 PM
Charlotte Hornets

Coach: Steve Clifford

C- Andrew Bogut | Marreese Speights
F- Al Horford | PJ Tucker
F- Chandler Parsons | Joe Ingles
G- JR Smith | Tyler Johnson
G- Mike Conley Jr | Raul Neto

Probably not your biggest "names" coming off the bench, but they are pretty efficient players and good to very good three point shooters.  In fact, the only guy on this team that cant shoot three's is Bogut.  Everyone else is above 38% expect Horford (34%) and Conley (36%).


Low end playoff team perhaps.  Depends on how Parsons bounces back.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: wdleehi on August 09, 2016, 07:45:56 PM


The Now Knicks

PG  Irving
SG C. Lee
SF Shabazz Muhammad
PF Marcus Morris
C  Drummond


Bench
SG Hield
PF/C Sullinger
PF/C Marquese Chriss



I will be honest, I didn't expect to go with two rookies, but they were just to great of values when I picked them.   I mean, which real NBA team would trade the veteran players drafted around them (in this game) for them?
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Rondo2287 on August 09, 2016, 07:47:15 PM


The Now Knicks

PG  Irving
SG C. Lee
SF Shabazz Muhammad
PF Marcus Morris
C  Drummond


Bench
SG Hield
PF/C Sullinger
PF/C Marquese Chriss



I will be honest, I didn't expect to go with two rookies, but they were just to great of values when I picked them.   I mean, which real NBA team would trade the veteran players drafted around them (in this game) for them?

How did the change in he hack a shaq rules effect your strategy? 
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: KGs Knee on August 09, 2016, 07:50:29 PM
Charlotte Hornets

Coach: Steve Clifford

C- Andrew Bogut | Marreese Speights
F- Al Horford | PJ Tucker
F- Chandler Parsons | Joe Ingles
G- JR Smith | Tyler Johnson
G- Mike Conley Jr | Raul Neto

Probably not your biggest "names" coming off the bench, but they are pretty efficient players and good to very good three point shooters.  In fact, the only guy on this team that cant shoot three's is Bogut.  Everyone else is above 38% expect Horford (34%) and Conley (36%).


Low end playoff team perhaps.  Depends on how Parsons bounces back.

I figured some (most???) might say that.  Roster lacks a sure-fire top 10 player.  You can't get far in a CB draft it seems without one.

Nearly impossible to get one though from smack dab in the middle of the draft without giving up an arm and a leg, however.

I'll say this though, I've looked at the roster that do have sure-fire top 10 players, and none truly seem to have the complimentary talent that makes them truly stand out.  Not like I've seen from past CB draft champions.

Voting should be interesting, I'm don't see any one team that sticks out as a front runner.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: wdleehi on August 09, 2016, 07:54:22 PM


The Now Knicks

PG  Irving
SG C. Lee
SF Shabazz Muhammad
PF Marcus Morris
C  Drummond


Bench
SG Hield
PF/C Sullinger
PF/C Marquese Chriss



I will be honest, I didn't expect to go with two rookies, but they were just to great of values when I picked them.   I mean, which real NBA team would trade the veteran players drafted around them (in this game) for them?

How did the change in he hack a shaq rules effect your strategy?


Not to much.  I always like to have a strong big man.  It will help the team allowing Drummond to be out there the last two minutes of all quarters without taking the ball out of Irvings hands. 
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: wdleehi on August 09, 2016, 07:56:40 PM
Charlotte Hornets

Coach: Steve Clifford

C- Andrew Bogut | Marreese Speights
F- Al Horford | PJ Tucker
F- Chandler Parsons | Joe Ingles
G- JR Smith | Tyler Johnson
G- Mike Conley Jr | Raul Neto

Probably not your biggest "names" coming off the bench, but they are pretty efficient players and good to very good three point shooters.  In fact, the only guy on this team that cant shoot three's is Bogut.  Everyone else is above 38% expect Horford (34%) and Conley (36%).


Low end playoff team perhaps.  Depends on how Parsons bounces back.

I figured some (most???) might say that.  Roster lacks a sure-fire top 10 player.  You can't get far in a CB draft it seems without one.

Nearly impossible to get one though from smack dab in the middle of the draft without giving up an arm and a leg, however.

I'll say this though, I've looked at the roster that do have sure-fire top 10 players, and none truly seem to have the complimentary talent that makes them truly stand out.  Not like I've seen from past CB draft champions.

Voting should be interesting, I'm don't see any one team that sticks out as a front runner.


Always true about picking in the middle.   I think this might have been my highest drafting point. 


Yep, the cost to trade up is huge.  Of course, the most successful to trade down are the ones that do the best job arguing up their teams.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Who on August 09, 2016, 08:04:00 PM
Charlotte Hornets

Coach: Steve Clifford

C- Andrew Bogut | Marreese Speights
F- Al Horford | PJ Tucker
F- Chandler Parsons | Joe Ingles
G- JR Smith | Tyler Johnson
G- Mike Conley Jr | Raul Neto

Probably not your biggest "names" coming off the bench, but they are pretty efficient players and good to very good three point shooters.  In fact, the only guy on this team that cant shoot three's is Bogut.  Everyone else is above 38% expect Horford (34%) and Conley (36%).


Low end playoff team perhaps.  Depends on how Parsons bounces back.

I figured some (most???) might say that.  Roster lacks a sure-fire top 10 player.  You can't get far in a CB draft it seems without one.

Nearly impossible to get one though from smack dab in the middle of the draft without giving up an arm and a leg, however.

I'll say this though, I've looked at the roster that do have sure-fire top 10 players, and none truly seem to have the complimentary talent that makes them truly stand out.  Not like I've seen from past CB draft champions.

Voting should be interesting, I'm don't see any one team that sticks out as a front runner.

Agreed. There seems to be a great deal of parity this year.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: snively on August 09, 2016, 08:09:30 PM
Charlotte Hornets

Coach: Steve Clifford

C- Andrew Bogut | Marreese Speights
F- Al Horford | PJ Tucker
F- Chandler Parsons | Joe Ingles
G- JR Smith | Tyler Johnson
G- Mike Conley Jr | Raul Neto

Probably not your biggest "names" coming off the bench, but they are pretty efficient players and good to very good three point shooters.  In fact, the only guy on this team that cant shoot three's is Bogut.  Everyone else is above 38% expect Horford (34%) and Conley (36%).


Low end playoff team perhaps.  Depends on how Parsons bounces back.

I figured some (most???) might say that.  Roster lacks a sure-fire top 10 player.  You can't get far in a CB draft it seems without one.

Nearly impossible to get one though from smack dab in the middle of the draft without giving up an arm and a leg, however.

I'll say this though, I've looked at the roster that do have sure-fire top 10 players, and none truly seem to have the complimentary talent that makes them truly stand out.  Not like I've seen from past CB draft champions.

Voting should be interesting, I'm don't see any one team that sticks out as a front runner.

Agreed. There seems to be a great deal of parity this year.

30 team draft - harder to load up on stars and top-shelf roleplayers. I think the Pistons probably got the best spot in the draft once Blake fell to them.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: KGs Knee on August 09, 2016, 08:10:30 PM
There seems to be a great deal of parity this year.

I think is mainly because we haven't really seen a true "blockbuster" trade yet.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: snively on August 09, 2016, 08:11:40 PM
The Kings trading into two first round picks gave them an edge too.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Denis998 on August 09, 2016, 08:34:13 PM
The Kings trading into two first round picks gave them an edge too.
looking at your roster, you have done a great job drafting. Team works rather well built around KD.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: nickagneta on August 09, 2016, 08:50:42 PM
Oklahoma City Thunder

PG: Jeff Teague
SG: Rodney Hood
SF: C. J. Miles
PF: Draymond Green
C: Mason Plumlee

Bench: Ryan Anderson, Leandro Barbosa, Jeremy Lamb
No one ever comments,on my Thunder.    :-[
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Who on August 09, 2016, 08:59:12 PM
Oklahoma City Thunder

PG: Jeff Teague
SG: Rodney Hood
SF: C. J. Miles
PF: Draymond Green
C: Mason Plumlee

Bench: Ryan Anderson, Leandro Barbosa, Jeremy Lamb
No one ever comments,on my Thunder.    :-[

I find them a tough team to figure out. Unusual composition of players.

I do really like the passing of Draymond and Plumlee though. Impressive passing combo. That is what stands out the most to me. Those two players. Their passing, their mobility defensively and their rebounding.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: nickagneta on August 09, 2016, 11:23:51 PM
Oklahoma City Thunder

PG: Jeff Teague
SG: Rodney Hood
SF: C. J. Miles
PF: Draymond Green
C: Mason Plumlee

Bench: Ryan Anderson, Leandro Barbosa, Jeremy Lamb
No one ever comments,on my Thunder.    :-[

I find them a tough team to figure out. Unusual composition of players.

I do really like the passing of Draymond and Plumlee though. Impressive passing combo. That is what stands out the most to me. Those two players. Their passing, their mobility defensively and their rebounding.
I was going for a team that with Dray, Plumlee and Teague could pass the ball around but also have two long wings that could shoot the three for spacing. I wanted Ryan Andeerson off the bench for his three point shooting and scoring as well as spacing in a small ball team where Dray/Ryan/Lamb or Miles/Hood/Teague or Barbosa could go small and run and shoot from the outside. My next to picks are probably going to be defensive minded players
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Kane3387 on August 09, 2016, 11:44:40 PM
Cleveland Cavaliers

 C: Greg Monroe
PF: Serge Ibaka
SF: Joe Johnson
SG: Brandon Knight
PG: Andre Igoudala

Bench:

Kyle Korver
Thabo Sefolosha
Al Jefferson
Taj Gibson
Brandon Jennings
Michael Carter Williams
Richard Jefferson



Very deep, but no one that will likely make the difference deep in the playoffs. 


Playoffs, probably.   (honestly, until we compare teams, hard to know)

Title contender, not without a big move.

I get everything you say for sure. Typically teams like mine with so much depth tend to perform well in the regular season because they can withstand the grind of an 82 game season better.

In regards to playoffs that will certainly be dependent on matchups. I will say that unlike the RL league there aren't really any juggernaut teams in this league that can overwhelm you with talent. The stars are too spread out amongst the league and no team has a collection of them. I think this league is pretty wide open honestly.

Does anyone even have a big 3? I know melo and Aldridge are paired up and there are some other good duos but the fact there really aren't any big threes says something about the parity we have.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: riah32 on August 10, 2016, 01:41:26 AM
Oklahoma City Thunder

PG: Jeff Teague
SG: Rodney Hood
SF: C. J. Miles
PF: Draymond Green
C: Mason Plumlee

Bench: Ryan Anderson, Leandro Barbosa, Jeremy Lamb
No one ever comments,on my Thunder.    :-[

I find them a tough team to figure out. Unusual composition of players.

I do really like the passing of Draymond and Plumlee though. Impressive passing combo. That is what stands out the most to me. Those two players. Their passing, their mobility defensively and their rebounding.
I was going for a team that with Dray, Plumlee and Teague could pass the ball around but also have two long wings that could shoot the three for spacing. I wanted Ryan Andeerson off the bench for his three point shooting and scoring as well as spacing in a small ball team where Dray/Ryan/Lamb or Miles/Hood/Teague or Barbosa could go small and run and shoot from the outside. My next to picks are probably going to be defensive minded players

I like what you got going on in Okc a nice mixture of kind guys and veterans. I think your right to be looking for a couple of defensive minded guys with your next to picks.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Rondo2287 on August 10, 2016, 06:35:01 AM
Cleveland Cavaliers

 C: Greg Monroe
PF: Serge Ibaka
SF: Joe Johnson
SG: Brandon Knight
PG: Andre Igoudala

Bench:

Kyle Korver
Thabo Sefolosha
Al Jefferson
Taj Gibson
Brandon Jennings
Michael Carter Williams
Richard Jefferson



Very deep, but no one that will likely make the difference deep in the playoffs. 


Playoffs, probably.   (honestly, until we compare teams, hard to know)

Title contender, not without a big move.

I get everything you say for sure. Typically teams like mine with so much depth tend to perform well in the regular season because they can withstand the grind of an 82 game season better.

In regards to playoffs that will certainly be dependent on matchups. I will say that unlike the RL league there aren't really any juggernaut teams in this league that can overwhelm you with talent. The stars are too spread out amongst the league and no team has a collection of them. I think this league is pretty wide open honestly.

Does anyone even have a big 3? I know melo and Aldridge are paired up and there are some other good duos but the fact there really aren't any big threes says something about the parity we have.

Melo Aldridge and Holiday is probably the best three man core in this game so far
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: KG Living Legend on August 10, 2016, 08:07:41 AM
 Any feedback on My Squad other than its too young.

 My big three is Lowry, Wade, Okafor lol.

 Okafor
 Randle
 Turner
 Wade
 Lowry

 Thon Maker
 Sabonis
 J. Grant
 Valentine
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Rondo2287 on August 10, 2016, 08:17:51 AM
Any feedback on My Squad other than its too young.

 My big three is Lowry, Wade, Okafor lol.

 Okafor
 Randle
 Turner
 Wade
 Lowry

 Thon Maker
 Sabonis
 J. Grant
 Valentine

I would like the overall tone of the team much more if you moved wade for a promising young two guard.  A beal caliber player.  You would then have a core that could really grow together the next couple of years and be a solid TOTF
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: KGs Knee on August 10, 2016, 08:43:58 AM
Melo Aldridge and Holiday is probably the best three man core in this game so far

Give this man the "Modesty" award, folks!  8)

But being serious for a moment, the stats say otherwise.

Just looking at my own top 3 players (Horford/Conley/Parsons) they rank better across most all of the advanced stats available  (VORP/WS/BPM/PIE/PER/WS48).

Take this with a grain of salt, but the formula I came up with prior to the draft gives the Horford/Conley/Parsons trio a 'score' of 16.21, while the trio of Aldridge/Anthony/Holiday has a 'score' of 16.18.  Your trio missed 35 games, mine missed 47 (average of 4 per player).

I'd be interested to hear your reasoning why you think the numbers are wrong.  I'm not saying anything definitive here, just curious as to your thoughts on this.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Rondo2287 on August 10, 2016, 08:54:19 AM
Melo Aldridge and Holiday is probably the best three man core in this game so far

Give this man the "Modesty" award, folks!  8)

But being serious for a moment, the stats say otherwise.

Just looking at my own top 3 players (Horford/Conley/Parsons) they rank better across most all of the advanced stats available  (VORP/WS/BPM/PIE/PER/WS48).

Take this with a grain of salt, but the formula I came up with prior to the draft gives the Horford/Conley/Parsons trio a 'score' of 16.21, while the trio of Aldridge/Anthony/Holiday has a 'score' of 16.18.  Your trio missed 35 games, mine missed 47 (average of 4 per player).

I'd be interested to hear your reasoning why you think the numbers are wrong.  I'm not saying anything definitive here, just curious as to your thoughts on this.

I would say the formula you came up with is incorrect.  I would say ask any executive in the league would that rather have Aldridge or Horford they would all say Aldridge.  Ask any celtics fan they would say Aldridge. 

Ask the same group Carmelo or Parsons and same thing.  Is parsons on Team USA?

Conley and Holiday is probably a wash
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: KGs Knee on August 10, 2016, 09:07:35 AM
Melo Aldridge and Holiday is probably the best three man core in this game so far

Give this man the "Modesty" award, folks!  8)

But being serious for a moment, the stats say otherwise.

Just looking at my own top 3 players (Horford/Conley/Parsons) they rank better across most all of the advanced stats available  (VORP/WS/BPM/PIE/PER/WS48).

Take this with a grain of salt, but the formula I came up with prior to the draft gives the Horford/Conley/Parsons trio a 'score' of 16.21, while the trio of Aldridge/Anthony/Holiday has a 'score' of 16.18.  Your trio missed 35 games, mine missed 47 (average of 4 per player).

I'd be interested to hear your reasoning why you think the numbers are wrong.  I'm not saying anything definitive here, just curious as to your thoughts on this.

I would say the formula you came up with is incorrect.  I would say ask any executive in the league would that rather have Aldridge or Horford they would all say Aldridge.  Ask any celtics fan they would say Aldridge. 

Ask the same group Carmelo or Parsons and same thing.  Is parsons on Team USA?

Conley and Holiday is probably a wash

So, basically it's all subjective.  Those stats don't matter.  Fair enough.

I'll agree about Carmelo and Parsons.  Carmelo can take over a game on offense, Parsons can't.  FWIW, Parson is more efficient.

I'm surprised as many Celtics fans are down on Horford.  The guy is an advanced stats stud.  Tops in the group above, by a wide margin actually.  It doesn't matter how you manipulate those stats, the outcome is the same.  Made it farther in the playoffs than LMA, and as the top player on the team.  I really like both players, though.

Conley and Holiday were separated by 0.01 total score, so yeah pretty close.  Conley played 9 less games, so his scores in VORP and WS took a slight hit. But, to turn it around for a moment, subjectively, nobody is taking Holiday ahead of Conley.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Rondo2287 on August 10, 2016, 09:20:05 AM
Melo Aldridge and Holiday is probably the best three man core in this game so far

Give this man the "Modesty" award, folks!  8)

But being serious for a moment, the stats say otherwise.

Just looking at my own top 3 players (Horford/Conley/Parsons) they rank better across most all of the advanced stats available  (VORP/WS/BPM/PIE/PER/WS48).

Take this with a grain of salt, but the formula I came up with prior to the draft gives the Horford/Conley/Parsons trio a 'score' of 16.21, while the trio of Aldridge/Anthony/Holiday has a 'score' of 16.18.  Your trio missed 35 games, mine missed 47 (average of 4 per player).

I'd be interested to hear your reasoning why you think the numbers are wrong.  I'm not saying anything definitive here, just curious as to your thoughts on this.

I would say the formula you came up with is incorrect.  I would say ask any executive in the league would that rather have Aldridge or Horford they would all say Aldridge.  Ask any celtics fan they would say Aldridge. 

Ask the same group Carmelo or Parsons and same thing.  Is parsons on Team USA?

Conley and Holiday is probably a wash

So, basically it's all subjective.  Those stats don't matter.  Fair enough.

I'll agree about Carmelo and Parsons.  Carmelo can take over a game on offense, Parsons can't.  FWIW, Parson is more efficient.

I'm surprised as many Celtics fans are down on Horford.  The guy is an advanced stats stud.  Tops in the group above, by a wide margin actually.  It doesn't matter how you manipulate those stats, the outcome is the same.  Made it farther in the playoffs than LMA, and as the top player on the team.  I really like both players, though.

Conley and Holiday were separated by 0.01 total score, so yeah pretty close.  Conley played 9 less games, so his scores in VORP and WS took a slight hit. But, to turn it around for a moment, subjectively, nobody is taking Holiday ahead of Conley.

Horford stunk in the playoffs 12.5ppg 8.5 rpg on 43% shooting against the celtics who have no interior defenders and the cavs with TT

Aldridge on the other hand averaged 21.9 points per game on 8.3 rpg, and 52% shooting
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Evantime34 on August 10, 2016, 09:20:16 AM
Melo Aldridge and Holiday is probably the best three man core in this game so far

Give this man the "Modesty" award, folks!  8)

But being serious for a moment, the stats say otherwise.

Just looking at my own top 3 players (Horford/Conley/Parsons) they rank better across most all of the advanced stats available  (VORP/WS/BPM/PIE/PER/WS48).

Take this with a grain of salt, but the formula I came up with prior to the draft gives the Horford/Conley/Parsons trio a 'score' of 16.21, while the trio of Aldridge/Anthony/Holiday has a 'score' of 16.18.  Your trio missed 35 games, mine missed 47 (average of 4 per player).

I'd be interested to hear your reasoning why you think the numbers are wrong.  I'm not saying anything definitive here, just curious as to your thoughts on this.

I would say the formula you came up with is incorrect.  I would say ask any executive in the league would that rather have Aldridge or Horford they would all say Aldridge.  Ask any celtics fan they would say Aldridge. 

Ask the same group Carmelo or Parsons and same thing.  Is parsons on Team USA?

Conley and Holiday is probably a wash
Agree on Melo on Aldridge being clearly better than Parsons and Horford. However, Conley and Holliday isn't close to a wash, mostly because Holiday can't make it through a season without getting hurt. Conley is much better.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Rondo2287 on August 10, 2016, 09:23:30 AM
Melo Aldridge and Holiday is probably the best three man core in this game so far

Give this man the "Modesty" award, folks!  8)

But being serious for a moment, the stats say otherwise.

Just looking at my own top 3 players (Horford/Conley/Parsons) they rank better across most all of the advanced stats available  (VORP/WS/BPM/PIE/PER/WS48).

Take this with a grain of salt, but the formula I came up with prior to the draft gives the Horford/Conley/Parsons trio a 'score' of 16.21, while the trio of Aldridge/Anthony/Holiday has a 'score' of 16.18.  Your trio missed 35 games, mine missed 47 (average of 4 per player).

I'd be interested to hear your reasoning why you think the numbers are wrong.  I'm not saying anything definitive here, just curious as to your thoughts on this.

I would say the formula you came up with is incorrect.  I would say ask any executive in the league would that rather have Aldridge or Horford they would all say Aldridge.  Ask any celtics fan they would say Aldridge. 

Ask the same group Carmelo or Parsons and same thing.  Is parsons on Team USA?

Conley and Holiday is probably a wash
Agree on Melo on Aldridge being clearly better than Parsons and Horford. However, Conley and Holliday isn't close to a wash, mostly because Holiday can't make it through a season without getting hurt. Conley is much better.

2016 GP
Conley 56
Holiday 65

Conley: 15.3 PPG, 2.9 rpg, 6.1 apg, 42% FG, 36% 3p

Jrue:  16.8 ppg, 3.0 rpg, 6.0 apg, 44% fg, 33% 3p
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Evantime34 on August 10, 2016, 09:26:11 AM
I really like my team. It's not going to be a team that gets favorable voting after this is all over, however when we look back at this league a year from now the quality of my team will be obvious.

D'Angelo Russell
Klay Thompson/Roberson
Aaron Gordon/Oubre
Jabari Parker/Saric
Joakim Noah/WCS

This team has quality shooting, a lot of athleticism and plus length at every position. Russell is my smallest player at 6'5. Memphis' length is really going to bother people.

I predict that by this time next year D'Angelo, Gordon and Parker will all be the best players on their respective teams, while Saric, Roberson and WCS should all be starting for their NBA teams.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: KGs Knee on August 10, 2016, 09:35:10 AM

Horford stunk in the playoffs 12.5ppg 8.5 rpg on 43% shooting against the celtics who have no interior defenders and the cavs with TT

Aldridge on the other hand averaged 21.9 points per game on 8.3 rpg, and 52% shooting

It wasn't Al's best playoff run, that's for certain.

But really, looking at their career number, the only thing Aldridge does considerable better is score more points.  They're either even, or Horford has the better numbers otherwise.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/pcm_finder.cgi?request=1&sum=1&y1=2016&p1=horfoal01&y2=2016&p2=aldrila01&p3=&p4=&p5=&p6=

So really, the crux of it is LMA scores more?  Just find it interesting.  Not even really debating it, per se.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Rondo2287 on August 10, 2016, 09:37:05 AM

Horford stunk in the playoffs 12.5ppg 8.5 rpg on 43% shooting against the celtics who have no interior defenders and the cavs with TT

Aldridge on the other hand averaged 21.9 points per game on 8.3 rpg, and 52% shooting

It wasn't Al's best playoff run, that's for certain.

But really, looking at their career number, the only thing Aldridge does considerable better is score more points.  They're either even, or Horford has the better numbers otherwise.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/pcm_finder.cgi?request=1&sum=1&y1=2016&p1=horfoal01&y2=2016&p2=aldrila01&p3=&p4=&p5=&p6=

So really, the crux of it is LMA scores more?  Just find it interesting.  Not even really debating it, per se.

Seemingly against decent competition Horford turtled while LMA performed well
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: KGs Knee on August 10, 2016, 09:37:17 AM
I really like my team. It's not going to be a team that gets favorable voting after this is all over, however when we look back at this league a year from now the quality of my team will be obvious.

D'Angelo Russell
Klay Thompson/Roberson
Aaron Gordon/Oubre
Jabari Parker/Saric
Joakim Noah/WCS

This team has quality shooting, a lot of athleticism and plus length at every position. Russell is my smallest player at 6'5. Memphis' length is really going to bother people.

I predict that by this time next year D'Angelo, Gordon and Parker will all be the best players on their respective teams, while Saric, Roberson and WCS should all be starting for their NBA teams.

Yeah, in couple years, this could very likely be an elite squad.  A "TOTF" with a very near future, so to speak.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Rondo2287 on August 10, 2016, 09:42:22 AM
I really like my team. It's not going to be a team that gets favorable voting after this is all over, however when we look back at this league a year from now the quality of my team will be obvious.

D'Angelo Russell
Klay Thompson/Roberson
Aaron Gordon/Oubre
Jabari Parker/Saric
Joakim Noah/WCS

This team has quality shooting, a lot of athleticism and plus length at every position. Russell is my smallest player at 6'5. Memphis' length is really going to bother people.

I predict that by this time next year D'Angelo, Gordon and Parker will all be the best players on their respective teams, while Saric, Roberson and WCS should all be starting for their NBA teams.

I like the Noah WCS pairing alot, I think WCS can learn alot from Noah
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: KGs Knee on August 10, 2016, 09:43:14 AM

Horford stunk in the playoffs 12.5ppg 8.5 rpg on 43% shooting against the celtics who have no interior defenders and the cavs with TT

Aldridge on the other hand averaged 21.9 points per game on 8.3 rpg, and 52% shooting

It wasn't Al's best playoff run, that's for certain.

But really, looking at their career number, the only thing Aldridge does considerable better is score more points.  They're either even, or Horford has the better numbers otherwise.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/pcm_finder.cgi?request=1&sum=1&y1=2016&p1=horfoal01&y2=2016&p2=aldrila01&p3=&p4=&p5=&p6=

So really, the crux of it is LMA scores more?  Just find it interesting.  Not even really debating it, per se.

Seemingly against decent competition Horford turtled while LMA performed well

So we don't expect Horford to rebound and have a better playoff run this year?  I sure hope he does.  Just my own opinion here, but I think his addition pushes the C's to 55 wins this year, 7 better than last year.

I mean, he's never been the volume scorer LMA is, but he makes up for it in plenty of other areas.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Evantime34 on August 10, 2016, 10:02:17 AM

Horford stunk in the playoffs 12.5ppg 8.5 rpg on 43% shooting against the celtics who have no interior defenders and the cavs with TT

Aldridge on the other hand averaged 21.9 points per game on 8.3 rpg, and 52% shooting

It wasn't Al's best playoff run, that's for certain.

But really, looking at their career number, the only thing Aldridge does considerable better is score more points.  They're either even, or Horford has the better numbers otherwise.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/pcm_finder.cgi?request=1&sum=1&y1=2016&p1=horfoal01&y2=2016&p2=aldrila01&p3=&p4=&p5=&p6=

So really, the crux of it is LMA scores more?  Just find it interesting.  Not even really debating it, per se.

Seemingly against decent competition Horford turtled while LMA performed well

So we don't expect Horford to rebound and have a better playoff run this year?  I sure hope he does.  Just my own opinion here, but I think his addition pushes the C's to 55 wins this year, 7 better than last year.

I mean, he's never been the volume scorer LMA is, but he makes up for it in plenty of other areas.
Even though Horford's individual numbers weren't great last year, I thought that his defense was a big reason we couldn't score at all against Atlanta (and why they had one of the best defenses in the league last regular season).

LMA is a better scorer and rebounder than Horford, but I think Horford does everything else better. LMA is suited to be a franchise scorer, while Horford is suited to be the guy next to the franchise scorer that does everything else to make sure his team wins.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: snively on August 10, 2016, 10:05:36 AM

Horford stunk in the playoffs 12.5ppg 8.5 rpg on 43% shooting against the celtics who have no interior defenders and the cavs with TT

Aldridge on the other hand averaged 21.9 points per game on 8.3 rpg, and 52% shooting

It wasn't Al's best playoff run, that's for certain.

But really, looking at their career number, the only thing Aldridge does considerable better is score more points.  They're either even, or Horford has the better numbers otherwise.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/pcm_finder.cgi?request=1&sum=1&y1=2016&p1=horfoal01&y2=2016&p2=aldrila01&p3=&p4=&p5=&p6=

So really, the crux of it is LMA scores more?  Just find it interesting.  Not even really debating it, per se.

Seemingly against decent competition Horford turtled while LMA performed well

So we don't expect Horford to rebound and have a better playoff run this year?  I sure hope he does.  Just my own opinion here, but I think his addition pushes the C's to 55 wins this year, 7 better than last year.

I mean, he's never been the volume scorer LMA is, but he makes up for it in plenty of other areas.

He is a better and more committed defender than LMA which counts for a lot, but his inability to scale up his offensive game up beyond PNR finishes and spot-up Js (a la old KG) is a definite problem if you don't have a premiere scorer on your team. His last 2 playoff showings against Tristan Thompson on the glass also undermined some of his defensive impact.

Both guys are similar enough in overall talent to be comparable, but have some limitations that need to be accounted for.

I think a swap would actually serve you both pretty well. The Hornets are short on offensive horsepower at the top while the Lakers have a bit of surplus and majorly lack on D.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: KGs Knee on August 10, 2016, 10:10:45 AM

LMA is a better scorer and rebounder than Horford

Scorer, yes.  Rebounder, no.

Horford averages 0.5 reb more for their careers, 0.9 more per 36 career, and 0.3 less in the playoffs, but 0.7 more per 36 in the playoffs.  They're pretty much equal rebounding wise, with a slight edge to Horford.

Just interesting to me that scoring alone is worth that much to in (some/most/all) people's opinions.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: snively on August 10, 2016, 10:23:06 AM

LMA is a better scorer and rebounder than Horford

Scorer, yes.  Rebounder, no.

Horford averages 0.5 reb more for their careers, 0.9 more per 36 career, and 0.3 less in the playoffs, but 0.7 more per 36 in the playoffs.  They're pretty much equal rebounding wise, with a slight edge to Horford.

Just interesting to me that scoring alone is worth that much to in (some/most/all) people's opinions.

LMA had poor rebounding numbers early in his career, but a lot of that had to do with playing with rebounding beasts (Oden, Przybilla, Camby). As soon as he was paired with Robin Lopez (a box out on the defensive glass guy who has always put up pedestrian defensive rebounding numbers) his rebounding soared.

Contrast with Horford who has always played with undersized combo forwards and has instead seen his rebounding decline. Early on his athleticism and motor gave him the edge in my book, but now that they're both entering their 30s, I think Aldridge's superior size, length and bulk make him the better rebounder.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Evantime34 on August 10, 2016, 10:30:21 AM

LMA is a better scorer and rebounder than Horford

Scorer, yes.  Rebounder, no.

Horford averages 0.5 reb more for their careers, 0.9 more per 36 career, and 0.3 less in the playoffs, but 0.7 more per 36 in the playoffs.  They're pretty much equal rebounding wise, with a slight edge to Horford.

Just interesting to me that scoring alone is worth that much to in (some/most/all) people's opinions.
Over the length of their careers maybe Horford is better, but the last 3 years Aldridge has been better. Even ignoring offensive rebounds (which the Hawks don't really chase, so that effects Horford's numbers more than Aldridges) Aldridge collected 23.5% of available defensive rebounds while Horford only collected 19.8% of defensive rebounds.

Personally I'd rather have Horford on my team (both in the cb draft and in real life) than Aldridge, but I think Aldridge is a more marquee guy when discussing who has the best big 3.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Who on August 10, 2016, 10:56:16 AM
I really like my team. It's not going to be a team that gets favorable voting after this is all over, however when we look back at this league a year from now the quality of my team will be obvious.

D'Angelo Russell
Klay Thompson/Roberson
Aaron Gordon/Oubre
Jabari Parker/Saric
Joakim Noah/WCS

This team has quality shooting, a lot of athleticism and plus length at every position. Russell is my smallest player at 6'5. Memphis' length is really going to bother people.

I predict that by this time next year D'Angelo, Gordon and Parker will all be the best players on their respective teams, while Saric, Roberson and WCS should all be starting for their NBA teams.

I really like Saric pickup. He looks a great fit in that mix.

Aaron Gordon = defensive stopper and glue guy
Jabari Parker = scorer, midrange and isolation
Dario Saric = playmaking forward

That is a fun mix of the skills. I really like that trio.

I like A.Roberson as well. Another defensive stopper off the bench. Useful player. 
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Evantime34 on August 10, 2016, 10:58:47 AM
I really like my team. It's not going to be a team that gets favorable voting after this is all over, however when we look back at this league a year from now the quality of my team will be obvious.

D'Angelo Russell
Klay Thompson/Roberson
Aaron Gordon/Oubre
Jabari Parker/Saric
Joakim Noah/WCS

This team has quality shooting, a lot of athleticism and plus length at every position. Russell is my smallest player at 6'5. Memphis' length is really going to bother people.

I predict that by this time next year D'Angelo, Gordon and Parker will all be the best players on their respective teams, while Saric, Roberson and WCS should all be starting for their NBA teams.

I really like Saric pickup. He looks a great fit in that mix.

Aaron Gordon = defensive stopper and glue guy
Jabari Parker = scorer, midrange and isolation
Dario Saric = playmaking forward

That is a fun mix of the skills. I really like that trio.

I like A.Roberson as well. Another defensive stopper off the bench. Useful player.
I think a big determining factor on my team success will be how well that trio shoots 3's. Jabari and Gordon both showed signs of being able to hit 3's in the second half of their respective seasons.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: snively on August 10, 2016, 11:23:43 AM
My Bulls regular rotation is pretty much set now (still a bit of room for situational subs/injury insurance, but not much):

Ricky Rubio / Ramon Sessions
Danny Green/ Iman Shumpert
Kevin Durant / Gerald Green
Markieff Morris / Trevor Booker
Clint Capela / Channing Frye

Initially was hoping for more of a Monta Ellis 6th man type to yin and yang with Rubio, but I'm warming up to the Sessions/Gerald scoring combo off the bench - going for the Lin/Lamb type dynamic that worked so well for Charlotte to start the year.

Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Celtic Fan Forever on August 10, 2016, 12:04:20 PM
Orlando rotation pretty much set through 10 rounds:

C: Nikola Jokic / Ian Mahinmi
F:  Mirza Teletovic /Kyle O'Quinn / Lavoy Allen
F:  Paul George / Tyreke Evans
G: Kent Bazemore / Terrence Ross
G: Patrick Beverley / Patty Mills

I love my team, I think it's a great mix of talents and has plenty of opportunity for versatile lineups. I'd love some feedback though.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Who on August 10, 2016, 12:10:06 PM
Orlando rotation pretty much set through 10 rounds:

C: Nikola Jokic / Ian Mahinmi
F:  Mirza Teletovic /Kyle O'Quinn / Lavoy Allen
F:  Paul George / Tyreke Evans
G: Kent Bazemore / Terrence Ross
G: Patrick Beverley / Patty Mills

I love my team, I think it's a great mix of talents and has plenty of opportunity for versatile lineups. I'd love some feedback though.

I love your bench.

* Tyreke Evans is an excellent 6th man.
* Patty Mills, Terrence Ross and Tyreke is surely one of the best perimeter benches.
* Lot of size and muscle with Mahinmi, Kyle O'Quinn and Lavoy Allen.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on August 10, 2016, 12:15:07 PM
The Jazz 10 man rotation should be all set here, the rest will just be filled up with reserves in case of injuries.

C: Jonas Valanciunas / David Lee

F: Karl-Anthony Towns / Mike Scott

F: Wilson Chandler / Quincy Pondexter

G: Khris Middleton / Jonathon Simmons

G: Derrick Rose / Shaun Livingston


I hope this squad makes it to my very first CB Draft Playoffs. 4th times the charm! 
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Celts Fan 508 on August 10, 2016, 12:34:57 PM
I really like my team. It's not going to be a team that gets favorable voting after this is all over, however when we look back at this league a year from now the quality of my team will be obvious.

D'Angelo Russell
Klay Thompson/Roberson
Aaron Gordon/Oubre
Jabari Parker/Saric
Joakim Noah/WCS

This team has quality shooting, a lot of athleticism and plus length at every position. Russell is my smallest player at 6'5. Memphis' length is really going to bother people.

I predict that by this time next year D'Angelo, Gordon and Parker will all be the best players on their respective teams, while Saric, Roberson and WCS should all be starting for their NBA teams.

I really like Saric pickup. He looks a great fit in that mix.

Aaron Gordon = defensive stopper and glue guy
Jabari Parker = scorer, midrange and isolation
Dario Saric = playmaking forward

That is a fun mix of the skills. I really like that trio.

I like A.Roberson as well. Another defensive stopper off the bench. Useful player.
I think a big determining factor on my team success will be how well that trio shoots 3's. Jabari and Gordon both showed signs of being able to hit 3's in the second half of their respective seasons.

The thing with Saric is that although he makes some great passes, he has been a turnover machine.  He contributes in a lot of ways, but after watching him play a lot, I am not as sold on him as I once was.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: airbelinelli on August 10, 2016, 12:36:11 PM
Starters:
PG: Eric Bledsoe
SG: Bradley Beal
SF: Justice Winslow
PF: Myles Turner
C: Steven Adams

Bench:
PG: Jeremy Lin
G/F: Brandon Ingram
F: Doug McDermott
F/C: Brandon Bass
SG/SF: Gerald Henderson
F: Josh McRoberts

Haven't gotten much feedback on this team outside of my co-GM AB posting a lovely writeup. I see this as a team that could make the playoffs this year in the mid-lower tier but also has one of the highest potentials with ETs team. The team can be molded to play many different styles successfully, and the inteligent players are great fits in GSs offense.

What do you guys think? I'll try and give some write-ups for other teams this afternoon.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: AB_Celtic on August 10, 2016, 12:38:07 PM
Justise*

<3
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Celts Fan 508 on August 10, 2016, 12:38:50 PM


Hawks

1-  Dennis Schroder
2- DeMar DeRozan
3- Loul Deng
4- Kristaps Porzingis
5- Tyson Chandler

Bench
Lou Williams
TJ Warren
Jose Calderon
David West
Jordan Hill


Thoughts?
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Evantime34 on August 10, 2016, 01:02:10 PM


Hawks

1-  Dennis Schroder
2- DeMar DeRozan
3- Loul Deng
4- Kristaps Porzingis
5- Tyson Chandler

Bench
Lou Williams
TJ Warren
Jose Calderon
David West
Jordan Hill


Thoughts?
I would move Chandler out of the starting lineup then have Porzingis at the 5, Deng at the 4, and have a 2/3 of Warren/Derozan Calderon/DeRozan or Williams/DeRozan.

Chandler looked cooked last year, Porzingis was best at the 5 last year and Deng was best at the 4.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Evantime34 on August 10, 2016, 01:06:49 PM
Starters:
PG: Eric Bledsoe
SG: Bradley Beal
SF: Justice Winslow
PF: Myles Turner
C: Steven Adams

Bench:
PG: Jeremy Lin
G/F: Brandon Ingram
F: Doug McDermott
F/C: Brandon Bass
SG/SF: Gerald Henderson
F: Josh McRoberts

Haven't gotten much feedback on this team outside of my co-GM AB posting a lovely writeup. I see this as a team that could make the playoffs this year in the mid-lower tier but also has one of the highest potentials with ETs team. The team can be molded to play many different styles successfully, and the intelligent players are great fits in GSs offense.

What do you guys think? I'll try and give some write-ups for other teams this afternoon.
I really like this team, my only issue is that I prefer Turner at the 5 to the 4 and would worry about the spacing of a Winslow, Turner, Adams frontcourt since two of those guys aren't shooters.

I'm a fan of most of the players on your team. I really love bringing Ingram and McBuckets off the bench to provide an infusion of shooting. Thought McRoberts in the last round was an excellent pick. Although he wasn't great last year, when he was in Charlotte they ran a lot of offense through him and he was very important to that team.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Who on August 10, 2016, 01:23:31 PM


Hawks

1-  Dennis Schroder
2- DeMar DeRozan
3- Loul Deng
4- Kristaps Porzingis
5- Tyson Chandler

Bench
Lou Williams
TJ Warren
Jose Calderon
David West
Jordan Hill


Thoughts?
I would move Chandler out of the starting lineup then have Porzingis at the 5, Deng at the 4, and have a 2/3 of Warren/Derozan Calderon/DeRozan or Williams/DeRozan.

Chandler looked cooked last year, Porzingis was best at the 5 last year and Deng was best at the 4.

Agreed

I think Atlanta needs more shooting in it's starting lineup. Schroder, DeRozan and Deng are dodgy shooters. Going small and moving Porzingis to get an extra shooter on the court instead of a garbage man center (offensively speaking) would ease a lot of issues offensively.

I'd probably go with TJ Warren.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Celts Fan 508 on August 10, 2016, 01:33:46 PM


Hawks

1-  Dennis Schroder
2- DeMar DeRozan
3- Loul Deng
4- Kristaps Porzingis
5- Tyson Chandler

Bench
Lou Williams
TJ Warren
Jose Calderon
David West
Jordan Hill


Thoughts?
I would move Chandler out of the starting lineup then have Porzingis at the 5, Deng at the 4, and have a 2/3 of Warren/Derozan Calderon/DeRozan or Williams/DeRozan.

Chandler looked cooked last year, Porzingis was best at the 5 last year and Deng was best at the 4.

Agreed

I think Atlanta needs more shooting in it's starting lineup. Schroder, DeRozan and Deng are dodgy shooters. Going small and moving Porzingis to get an extra shooter on the court instead of a garbage man center (offensively speaking) would ease a lot of issues offensively.

I'd probably go with TJ Warren.

Deng shot .344% from 3 last year and .355% the year before, with a minimum of 220 attempts each of those 2 years.  I do think starting Porzingis over Chandler might open things more, but DeRozan shot .338% from 3 point land this past season as well.  Im torn on starting lineup, I like Lou Williams off of the bench as my scorer.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Who on August 10, 2016, 01:46:50 PM


Hawks

1-  Dennis Schroder
2- DeMar DeRozan
3- Loul Deng
4- Kristaps Porzingis
5- Tyson Chandler

Bench
Lou Williams
TJ Warren
Jose Calderon
David West
Jordan Hill


Thoughts?
I would move Chandler out of the starting lineup then have Porzingis at the 5, Deng at the 4, and have a 2/3 of Warren/Derozan Calderon/DeRozan or Williams/DeRozan.

Chandler looked cooked last year, Porzingis was best at the 5 last year and Deng was best at the 4.

Agreed

I think Atlanta needs more shooting in it's starting lineup. Schroder, DeRozan and Deng are dodgy shooters. Going small and moving Porzingis to get an extra shooter on the court instead of a garbage man center (offensively speaking) would ease a lot of issues offensively.

I'd probably go with TJ Warren.

Deng shot .344% from 3 last year and .355% the year before, with a minimum of 220 attempts each of those 2 years.  I do think starting Porzingis over Chandler might open things more, but DeRozan shot .338% from 3 point land this past season as well.  Im torn on starting lineup, I like Lou Williams off of the bench as my scorer.

I didn't say that well. Deng is a useful 3 point shooter just not an above average one. You don't want to be depending on him as your best 3 point shooter amongst starting PG, SG, SF. That is not a comfortable situation.

In terms of Deng at SF -- is that his quickness, ball-handling, slashing, outside shooting and passing are all average or worse. Change him to PF and all of those things becomes pluses for him and he becomes a much more dynamic offensive threat.

Deng was going for 10-11pts and 5reb a game as a SF.

After Miami changed their lineup and moved Deng to PF, Deng was up to 15ppg and 8rpg.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Celts Fan 508 on August 10, 2016, 01:51:42 PM


Hawks

1-  Dennis Schroder
2- DeMar DeRozan
3- Loul Deng
4- Kristaps Porzingis
5- Tyson Chandler

Bench
Lou Williams
TJ Warren
Jose Calderon
David West
Jordan Hill


Thoughts?
I would move Chandler out of the starting lineup then have Porzingis at the 5, Deng at the 4, and have a 2/3 of Warren/Derozan Calderon/DeRozan or Williams/DeRozan.

Chandler looked cooked last year, Porzingis was best at the 5 last year and Deng was best at the 4.

Agreed

I think Atlanta needs more shooting in it's starting lineup. Schroder, DeRozan and Deng are dodgy shooters. Going small and moving Porzingis to get an extra shooter on the court instead of a garbage man center (offensively speaking) would ease a lot of issues offensively.

I'd probably go with TJ Warren.

Deng shot .344% from 3 last year and .355% the year before, with a minimum of 220 attempts each of those 2 years.  I do think starting Porzingis over Chandler might open things more, but DeRozan shot .338% from 3 point land this past season as well.  Im torn on starting lineup, I like Lou Williams off of the bench as my scorer.

I didn't say that well. Deng is a useful 3 point shooter just not an above average one. You don't want to be depending on him as your best 3 point shooter amongst starting PG, SG, SF. That is not a comfortable situation.

In terms of Deng at SF -- is that his quickness, ball-handling, slashing, outside shooting and passing are all average or worse. Change him to PF and all of those things becomes pluses for him and he becomes a much more dynamic offensive threat.

Deng was going for 10-11pts and 5reb a game as a SF.

After Miami changed their lineup and moved Deng to PF, Deng was up to 15ppg and 8rpg.

TP, that makes more sense to me.  That is kind of how I was leaning, I was just worried about Porzingis matching up against a select few centers.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: snively on August 10, 2016, 01:53:28 PM


Hawks

1-  Dennis Schroder
2- DeMar DeRozan
3- Loul Deng
4- Kristaps Porzingis
5- Tyson Chandler

Bench
Lou Williams
TJ Warren
Jose Calderon
David West
Jordan Hill


Thoughts?
I would move Chandler out of the starting lineup then have Porzingis at the 5, Deng at the 4, and have a 2/3 of Warren/Derozan Calderon/DeRozan or Williams/DeRozan.

Chandler looked cooked last year, Porzingis was best at the 5 last year and Deng was best at the 4.

Agreed

I think Atlanta needs more shooting in it's starting lineup. Schroder, DeRozan and Deng are dodgy shooters. Going small and moving Porzingis to get an extra shooter on the court instead of a garbage man center (offensively speaking) would ease a lot of issues offensively.

I'd probably go with TJ Warren.

Deng shot .344% from 3 last year and .355% the year before, with a minimum of 220 attempts each of those 2 years.  I do think starting Porzingis over Chandler might open things more, but DeRozan shot .338% from 3 point land this past season as well.  Im torn on starting lineup, I like Lou Williams off of the bench as my scorer.

I didn't say that well. Deng is a useful 3 point shooter just not an above average one. You don't want to be depending on him as your best 3 point shooter amongst starting PG, SG, SF. That is not a comfortable situation.

In terms of Deng at SF -- is that his quickness, ball-handling, slashing, outside shooting and passing are all average or worse. Change him to PF and all of those things becomes pluses for him and he becomes a much more dynamic offensive threat.

Deng was going for 10-11pts and 5reb a game as a SF.

After Miami changed their lineup and moved Deng to PF, Deng was up to 15ppg and 8rpg.

Yeah - Charlotte trying to defend Deng with Kaminsky in the playoffs made him a very dangerous scorer again - put up 19/7/2 on 69TS% that series.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: The Rondo Show on August 10, 2016, 02:27:50 PM
PG: Eric Gordon / Dante Exum
SG: Evan Fournier /
SF: Stanley Johnson / Bojan Bogdonavic
PF: Ben Simmons / Luc Richard Mbah a Moute / Thomas Robinson
C: Hassan Whiteside / Jakob Poeltl
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Celtic Fan Forever on August 10, 2016, 02:45:32 PM
PG: Eric Gordon / Dante Exum
SG: Evan Fournier /
SF: Stanley Johnson / Bojan Bogdonavic
PF: Ben Simmons / Luc Richard Mbah a Moute / Thomas Robinson
C: Hassan Whiteside / Jakob Poeltl

I'm assuming Simmons is your de-facto PG, I don't think Gordon can really run an offense. I like the shooting around Simmons and Whiteside though: Bojan, Fournier and Gordon are all knock down shooters. I love Stanley Johnson but I think you need a little more defense on the perimeter, EG has definitely lost a step. The big wildcard right now is Exum, I think if he comes in healthy and ready to go it could be a huge lift for your team.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: mkogav on August 10, 2016, 02:49:56 PM
Your Minnesota Timberwolves!

Quote
PG: Isaiah Thomas / Shelvin Mack   
SG: J.J.Redick  / Jamal Crawford   
SF: Maurice Harkless / Justin Anderson   
PF: Kevin Love / Boris Diaw   
C:  Robin Lopez / Cody Zeller / Jason Smith

Mk
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: snively on August 10, 2016, 03:17:31 PM
Your Minnesota Timberwolves!

Quote
PG: Isaiah Thomas / Shelvin Mack   
SG: J.J.Redick  / Jamal Crawford   
SF: Maurice Harkless / Justin Anderson   
PF: Kevin Love / Boris Diaw   
C:  Robin Lopez / Cody Zeller / Jason Smith

Mk

I'd love seeing this team play. IT's speed and dynamism working with Love, Redick's hustle, secondary ball-handling and volume shooting. Lopez so active too and Zeller a great transition 5 behind him. And Harkless would enjoy a great offensive. boost as the leak out guy on fast breaks.

Diaw so fun for transition teams too with his positional versatility and passing.

Not crazy about Crawford with all that scoring already in your backcourt. I'd look to move him for another athletic wing.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: mkogav on August 10, 2016, 03:35:49 PM
Your Minnesota Timberwolves!

Quote
PG: Isaiah Thomas / Shelvin Mack   
SG: J.J.Redick  / Jamal Crawford   
SF: Maurice Harkless / Justin Anderson   
PF: Kevin Love / Boris Diaw   
C:  Robin Lopez / Cody Zeller / Jason Smith

Mk

I'd love seeing this team play. IT's speed and dynamism working with Love, Redick's hustle, secondary ball-handling and volume shooting. Lopez so active too and Zeller a great transition 5 behind him. And Harkless would enjoy a great offensive. boost as the leak out guy on fast breaks.

Diaw so fun for transition teams too with his positional versatility and passing.

Not crazy about Crawford with all that scoring already in your backcourt. I'd look to move him for another athletic wing.

Thanks for the feedback. This would be a fun team, not only to watch, I believe Wolves fans would love routing for a team like this, which would win 50-55 games each season.

I like Crawford as 6th man. IRL, he already plays with CP3, Redick, and Blake. I believes he balances the scoring out with the second unit.

Mk
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Denis998 on August 10, 2016, 03:44:06 PM
Thoughts on today's new additions? Added Tim Hardaway and Lance Thomas. Not the biggest names, but are high impact guys off the bench.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: pearljammer10 on August 10, 2016, 03:47:09 PM
The CB draft Boston Celtics are flying under the radar.

PG: Tony Parker/Mo Williams
SG: Alec Burks/Manu Ginobili
SF: Al Faroq-Aminu/Jared Dudley/Tony Snell
PF: Dirk Nowitzki/JaMychal Green
C:  Deandre Jordan/Roy Hibbert/Alex Len
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Celtic Fan Forever on August 10, 2016, 03:58:05 PM
The CB draft Boston Celtics are flying under the radar.

PG: Tony Parker/Mo Williams
SG: Alec Burks/Manu Ginobili
SF: Al Faroq-Aminu/Jared Dudley/Tony Snell
PF: Dirk Nowitzki/JaMychal Green
C:  Deandre Jordan/Roy Hibbert/Alex Len

I like the talent, but I question how they will hold up over an 82 game season. Burks is the only guy on the right side of 30 in your backcourt, and Dirk (as great as he's been) is 38 years old. I do really like the Dirk/DeAndre frontcourt though, and Dudley is a great small ball 4 option off the bench. Only thing I'd do is try to add more youth/athleticism in the backcourt, because I think your team will struggle against teams with those type of players.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Rondo2287 on August 10, 2016, 04:02:22 PM
I now have 4 backup pg's jameer Nelson, Ray Felton, tyus jones and JJ barea.  If somebody is interested in making a move I am interested in defensive minded wing players
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: pearljammer10 on August 10, 2016, 04:39:03 PM
The CB draft Boston Celtics are flying under the radar.

PG: Tony Parker/Mo Williams
SG: Alec Burks/Manu Ginobili
SF: Al Faroq-Aminu/Jared Dudley/Tony Snell
PF: Dirk Nowitzki/JaMychal Green
C:  Deandre Jordan/Roy Hibbert/Alex Len

I like the talent, but I question how they will hold up over an 82 game season. Burks is the only guy on the right side of 30 in your backcourt, and Dirk (as great as he's been) is 38 years old. I do really like the Dirk/DeAndre frontcourt though, and Dudley is a great small ball 4 option off the bench. Only thing I'd do is try to add more youth/athleticism in the backcourt, because I think your team will struggle against teams with those type of players.

Completely agree. Good assessment.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: RJ87 on August 10, 2016, 04:58:01 PM
PG: Kris Dunn/Jerryd Bayless
SG: Greivis Vasquez
SF: Andrew Wiggins/Omri Casspi
PF: Kelly Olynyk
C: Demarcus Cousins/Nene Hilario

Starting Greivis at the 2 for now so I can put Wiggins at SF and shifting Omri to the bench. Still filling out my bench, but I think Bayless can play the 1 or 2, Omri can play off the bench at either forward position, and Nene can play spot minutes at 4 or 5. Trying to play with flexibility, but still have some holes to fill.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: snively on August 10, 2016, 05:00:04 PM
Your Minnesota Timberwolves!

Quote
PG: Isaiah Thomas / Shelvin Mack   
SG: J.J.Redick  / Jamal Crawford   
SF: Maurice Harkless / Justin Anderson   
PF: Kevin Love / Boris Diaw   
C:  Robin Lopez / Cody Zeller / Jason Smith

Mk

I'd love seeing this team play. IT's speed and dynamism working with Love, Redick's hustle, secondary ball-handling and volume shooting. Lopez so active too and Zeller a great transition 5 behind him. And Harkless would enjoy a great offensive. boost as the leak out guy on fast breaks.

Diaw so fun for transition teams too with his positional versatility and passing.

Not crazy about Crawford with all that scoring already in your backcourt. I'd look to move him for another athletic wing.

Thanks for the feedback. This would be a fun team, not only to watch, I believe Wolves fans would love routing for a team like this, which would win 50-55 games each season.

I like Crawford as 6th man. IRL, he already plays with CP3, Redick, and Blake. I believes he balances the scoring out with the second unit.

Mk

IT is much more of a scorer than CP3 and a much worse defender - hard to play him with Crawford. I just don't think that pairing works.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on August 10, 2016, 05:46:40 PM
After 11 rounds:

C: Jonas Valanciunas / David Lee

F: Karl-Anthony Towns / Mike Scott

F: Wilson Chandler / Quincy Pondexter

G: Khris Middleton / Jonathon Simmons

G: Derrick Rose / Shaun Livingston / Ty Lawson

Whatt'ya guys think?
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Rondo2287 on August 10, 2016, 05:56:41 PM
After 11 rounds:

C: Jonas Valanciunas / David Lee

F: Karl-Anthony Towns / Mike Scott

F: Wilson Chandler / Quincy Pondexter

G: Khris Middleton / Jonathon Simmons

G: Derrick Rose / Shaun Livingston / Ty Lawson

Whatt'ya guys think?

I think you need PG help need a better third stronger than lawson
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on August 10, 2016, 05:59:17 PM
After 11 rounds:

C: Jonas Valanciunas / David Lee

F: Karl-Anthony Towns / Mike Scott

F: Wilson Chandler / Quincy Pondexter

G: Khris Middleton / Jonathon Simmons

G: Derrick Rose / Shaun Livingston / Ty Lawson

Whatt'ya guys think?

I think you need PG help need a better third stronger than lawson

Wait, you mean I need one more PG? I have three really good ones (two of them are questionable health and mentality wise but really good none the less), I still need help there?
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: snively on August 10, 2016, 06:04:59 PM
After 11 rounds:

C: Jonas Valanciunas / David Lee

F: Karl-Anthony Towns / Mike Scott

F: Wilson Chandler / Quincy Pondexter

G: Khris Middleton / Jonathon Simmons

G: Derrick Rose / Shaun Livingston / Ty Lawson

Whatt'ya guys think?

I think you need PG help need a better third stronger than lawson

Wait, you mean I need one more PG? I have three really good ones (two of them are questionable health and mentality wise but really good none the less), I still need help there?

I think you'll find the prevailing consensus to be that both guys are toast, akin to the C's grabbing Starbury in 2009.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: RJ87 on August 10, 2016, 06:10:50 PM
After 11 rounds:

C: Jonas Valanciunas / David Lee

F: Karl-Anthony Towns / Mike Scott

F: Wilson Chandler / Quincy Pondexter

G: Khris Middleton / Jonathon Simmons

G: Derrick Rose / Shaun Livingston / Ty Lawson

Whatt'ya guys think?

I think you need PG help need a better third stronger than lawson

Wait, you mean I need one more PG? I have three really good ones (two of them are questionable health and mentality wise but really good none the less), I still need help there?

I think you'll find the prevailing consensus to be that both guys are toast, akin to the C's grabbing Starbury in 2009.

Derrick shows flashes, but he's refused to adapt his game post-injury. So you basically get 1 of 3 D.Rose's: 1-Injured, 2-Uninjured But Mediocre, 3-Flashes of MVP... Unforunately, D.Rose #2 is what you're most likely to get for most stretches.

As far as Ty Lawson, I have no confidence in his ability to bounce back into form. Small guys age badly, and it's even worse when it's accelerated by alcohol abuse.

But Shaun Livingston is legit. I actually think you should start him.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: green_bballers13 on August 10, 2016, 06:14:00 PM
Toronto Raptors after 11:

pg: steph curry, marcus smart
sg: smart, jaylen brown, paul pierce, ray allen
sf: james johnson, brown, dunleavy, pierce
pf: patrick patterson, carl landry, ersan illyasova, bobby portis, kg, james johnson
c: brook lopez, patterson, portis, kg

What I like about this team is that there's a lot of versatility- multiple players can defend multiple positions. Besides a backup pg, backup 7fter, and lebron james, what else do you think is wrong with the Raptors?
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: airbelinelli on August 10, 2016, 06:16:27 PM
PG: Kris Dunn/Jerryd Bayless
SG: Greivis Vasquez
SF: Andrew Wiggins/Omri Casspi
PF: Kelly Olynyk
C: Demarcus Cousins/Nene Hilario

Starting Greivis at the 2 for now so I can put Wiggins at SF and shifting Omri to the bench. Still filling out my bench, but I think Bayless can play the 1 or 2, Omri can play off the bench at either forward position, and Nene can play spot minutes at 4 or 5. Trying to play with flexibility, but still have some holes to fill.

I like the idea here, but wish you had built this roster without trading down so much. I think you're asking a lot of wiggins to be the second banana next to Cousins. He hasn't yet shown that takeover offensive ability, and I don't think the pieces still available will be able to give you the depth needed to cover.

I do however really like the Kelly/DMC big man combo, and if Dunn and Wiggins blow up I'll be eating my words.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: RJ87 on August 10, 2016, 06:17:56 PM
Toronto Raptors after 11:

pg: steph curry, marcus smart
sg: smart, jaylen brown, paul pierce, ray allen
sf: james johnson, brown, dunleavy, pierce
pf: patrick patterson, carl landry, ersan illyasova, bobby portis, kg, james johnson
c: brook lopez, patterson, portis, kg

What I like about this team is that there's a lot of versatility- multiple players can defend multiple positions. Besides a backup pg, backup 7fter, and lebron james, what else do you think is wrong with the Raptors?

I like the Curry/Smart backcourt A LOT, but you're 2 guard rotation scares me. Brown might be able to give you minutes there, but Pierce is more of a small-ball PF at this point in his career than he is as a SG. Ray Allen may not even come out of retirement.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: RJ87 on August 10, 2016, 06:28:24 PM
PG: Kris Dunn/Jerryd Bayless
SG: Greivis Vasquez
SF: Andrew Wiggins/Omri Casspi
PF: Kelly Olynyk
C: Demarcus Cousins/Nene Hilario

Starting Greivis at the 2 for now so I can put Wiggins at SF and shifting Omri to the bench. Still filling out my bench, but I think Bayless can play the 1 or 2, Omri can play off the bench at either forward position, and Nene can play spot minutes at 4 or 5. Trying to play with flexibility, but still have some holes to fill.

I like the idea here, but wish you had built this roster without trading down so much. I think you're asking a lot of wiggins to be the second banana next to Cousins. He hasn't yet shown that takeover offensive ability, and I don't think the pieces still available will be able to give you the depth needed to cover.

I do however really like the Kelly/DMC big man combo, and if Dunn and Wiggins blow up I'll be eating my words.

My rebuttal without taking away from my eagerly anticipated press conference: Wiggins has already proven he can be a 20 point scorer in the league. I think second banana is exactly where he should be - pairing him with a dominant big man should open up things more for him (as we saw glimpses of last year with him next to KAT).
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Celts Fan 508 on August 10, 2016, 06:58:54 PM
After 11 rounds:

C: Jonas Valanciunas / David Lee

F: Karl-Anthony Towns / Mike Scott

F: Wilson Chandler / Quincy Pondexter

G: Khris Middleton / Jonathon Simmons

G: Derrick Rose / Shaun Livingston / Ty Lawson

Whatt'ya guys think?

I think you need PG help need a better third stronger than lawson

Wait, you mean I need one more PG? I have three really good ones (two of them are questionable health and mentality wise but really good none the less), I still need help there?

I think you'll find the prevailing consensus to be that both guys are toast, akin to the C's grabbing Starbury in 2009.

I agree with this, DRose should absolutely be on your bench, both he and Lawson are a shell of their former selves.

I really like the KAT-Jonas-Mike Scott bigs combo and Middleton as a shooting guard, but maybe try to trade for a better point guard before this is over would be my only suggestion.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: snively on August 10, 2016, 07:06:51 PM
Toronto Raptors after 11:

pg: steph curry, marcus smart
sg: smart, jaylen brown, paul pierce, ray allen
sf: james johnson, brown, dunleavy, pierce
pf: patrick patterson, carl landry, ersan illyasova, bobby portis, kg, james johnson
c: brook lopez, patterson, portis, kg

What I like about this team is that there's a lot of versatility- multiple players can defend multiple positions. Besides a backup pg, backup 7fter, and lebron james, what else do you think is wrong with the Raptors?

Really like Patterson and Johnson - badly needed infusion of defensive ability.

Your big problem now is possessions. Patterson/Lopez is a bad rebounding tandem. And their back-ups are either too old, too gimpy or too green.

Then on the wings you have a bunch of old fogies who will struggle to rebound or create turnovers. Leaves you very dependent on 3 guys - Smart/Johnson/Brown - with major shooting/scoring issues for D and quickness, which really crowds the court for your 2 big guns.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Rondo2287 on August 10, 2016, 07:29:00 PM
Melo lighting it up tonight in the olympics
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on August 10, 2016, 07:49:24 PM
After 11 rounds:

C: Jonas Valanciunas / David Lee

F: Karl-Anthony Towns / Mike Scott

F: Wilson Chandler / Quincy Pondexter

G: Khris Middleton / Jonathon Simmons

G: Derrick Rose / Shaun Livingston / Ty Lawson

Whatt'ya guys think?

I think you need PG help need a better third stronger than lawson

Wait, you mean I need one more PG? I have three really good ones (two of them are questionable health and mentality wise but really good none the less), I still need help there?

I think you'll find the prevailing consensus to be that both guys are toast, akin to the C's grabbing Starbury in 2009.

I agree with this, DRose should absolutely be on your bench, both he and Lawson are a shell of their former selves.

I really like the KAT-Jonas-Mike Scott bigs combo and Middleton as a shooting guard, but maybe try to trade for a better point guard before this is over would be my only suggestion.

I just feel the need to defend my guy here.

1. Derrick Rose isn't toast. He's not 2011 Rose either, but I'm not going there. This is a guy who averaged 17.3 points, 3.1 rebounds. 4.6 assists, 0.7 steals, shooting 46.8% and 37.5% from 3PT.

That is on a team in which the fit is horrible and the spacing is suspect. He'll have a much more open room to operate with this team, and he doesn't have to share the court with a fellow ball dominant guy. He can take the reigns here again and be effective.

During that timeline, he had a stretch of three games where he dropped 28, 26 and 24 points respectively, all shooting well above 50%. He also had a 30 point game (he had two this year actually, one is pre all-star) in that span.

2. Derrick Rose also played 66 games, there is some optimism here that he can stay relatively healthy.

3. He's not toast. Not yet.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5nh7hy0d_c

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V76fOxfsCZo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4S8WYpCSoA

4. If all else doesn't work, there's ever reliable Shaun Livingston who can be a reliable starter, as he shown in last season's Playoffs. Ty Lawson has some issues, but he's ultra talented in his own right, and is a really good 3rd PG option.


Edit: I forgot to mention that those stats are after the All-Star break. Sorry... I had it in mind and forgot to mention it. My apologies.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Bucketgetter on August 10, 2016, 08:21:55 PM
Yoki, where did you get those percentages? Rose shot 42% last year, and 29% from 3. His career averages are 44%, and 30% from 3. He has never shot 37.5% from 3 in any season.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Who on August 10, 2016, 08:26:20 PM
Yoki, where did you get those percentages? Rose shot 42% last year, and 29% from 3. His career averages are 44%, and 30% from 3. He has never shot 37.5% from 3 in any season.

They are D-Rose's stats from after the All-Star break. 21 games.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: wdleehi on August 10, 2016, 08:29:18 PM
The Now Knicks

PG  Irving
SG C. Lee
SF Shabazz Muhammad
PF Marcus Morris
C  Drummond


Bench
PG N. Cole
SG Hield
SF/SG V. Carter
PF/C Sullinger
PF/C Marquese Chriss
C Tyler Zeller


Happy to add some vet depth that can help the team while the rookies get their feet wet.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Rondo2287 on August 10, 2016, 08:34:15 PM
Yoki, where did you get those percentages? Rose shot 42% last year, and 29% from 3. His career averages are 44%, and 30% from 3. He has never shot 37.5% from 3 in any season.

They are D-Rose's stats from after the All-Star break. 21 games.

Woof cherry picking stats without citing the context.  Rough move Yoki
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Who on August 10, 2016, 08:36:34 PM
Toronto Raptors after 11:

pg: steph curry, marcus smart
sg: smart, jaylen brown, paul pierce, ray allen
sf: james johnson, brown, dunleavy, pierce
pf: patrick patterson, carl landry, ersan illyasova, bobby portis, kg, james johnson
c: brook lopez, patterson, portis, kg

What I like about this team is that there's a lot of versatility- multiple players can defend multiple positions. Besides a backup pg, backup 7fter, and lebron james, what else do you think is wrong with the Raptors?

Really like Patterson and Johnson - badly needed infusion of defensive ability.

Your big problem now is possessions. Patterson/Lopez is a bad rebounding tandem. And their back-ups are either too old, too gimpy or too green.

Then on the wings you have a bunch of old fogies who will struggle to rebound or create turnovers. Leaves you very dependent on 3 guys - Smart/Johnson/Brown - with major shooting/scoring issues for D and quickness, which really crowds the court for your 2 big guns.

Yes, I really like that as well. The starting lineup looks much more balanced.

I love the defensive energy and rebounding of Smart and James Johnson. Having two such highly skilled jump-shooting big men as Patterson and Brook Lopez will ease any offensive concerns with them as a starting duo on the wings.

I like Carl Landry as your best option at backup center (as your roster stands right now). I like him and Ilyasova as Toronto's main bigs off the bench. Very dangerous duo offensively. Then Portis as the 5th big man. KG as the 6th big.

The bench on the perimeter needs some work. A backup PG. I agree that Jaylen Brown is your best option at SG for the time being because he is the only one quick enough to defend that position. Then have Pierce and Dunleavy duke it out for the backup SF minutes. There are still plenty of options of useful bench guards available at PG and SG so you can address them with your final picks if need be.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Who on August 10, 2016, 08:46:56 PM
The Now Knicks

PG  Irving
SG C. Lee
SF Shabazz Muhammad
PF Marcus Morris
C  Drummond


Bench
PG N. Cole
SG Hield
SF/SG V. Carter
PF/C Sullinger
PF/C Marquese Chriss
C Tyler Zeller


Happy to add some vet depth that can help the team while the rookies get their feet wet.

I loved the Tyler Zeller pickup. Great value late in the draft. I really like Zeller and Sully off your bench. Then Chriss as the 5th big with potential to become a long term starter down the road. Quality bench bigs.

It would be nice to add a defensive wing as a different option from Vince and Hield.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on August 10, 2016, 09:05:09 PM
Yoki, where did you get those percentages? Rose shot 42% last year, and 29% from 3. His career averages are 44%, and 30% from 3. He has never shot 37.5% from 3 in any season.

They are D-Rose's stats from after the All-Star break. 21 games.

Woof cherry picking stats without citing the context.  Rough move Yoki

It's not cherry picking when it's true. The last half of the season, he was doing great. And recent stats matter, right?  ;)

And I believe I did mention it's after the All-Star break.

Edit: I didn't.

WHOOPS. Sorry. I had that in mind, guess I forgot to add it... Ah crabs... Sorry. Sorry. Sorry.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: max215 on August 10, 2016, 10:53:02 PM
George Hill/Chalmers
Oladipo/Hezonja
Hayward/Luwawu
Thad Young/Dwight Powell/Bender
Marc Gasol/Dedmon

Thoughts? My only concern is that the bench seriously lacks experience.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: max215 on August 10, 2016, 11:04:11 PM
Additionally, if anyone needs bigs and has wings, let me know.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Who on August 10, 2016, 11:07:46 PM
George Hill/Chalmers
Oladipo/Hezonja
Hayward/Luwawu
Thad Young/Dwight Powell/Bender
Marc Gasol/Dedmon

Thoughts? My only concern is that the bench seriously lacks experience.

I think your starting 5 is one of the best in the league.

I love the Marc Gasol & Thaddeus Young relationship. The speed and athleticism of Thaddeus Young vs the size of Marc Gasol. Gasol's high post game coupled with Thaddeus' slashing. I think those two complement one another very well.

I also really like Oladipo and Hayward next to George Hill. Two wings who like to create with the basketball next to a low usage PG. A setup PG. And a facilitating center in Marc Gasol.

The synergy is absolutely fantastic in this group.

Not sure about the bench though.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: nickagneta on August 10, 2016, 11:29:10 PM
OKC Thunder

PG: Jeff Teague/Leandro Barbosa
SG: Rodney Hood/Brandon Rush
SF: C. J. Miles/Jeremy Lamb
PF: Draymond Green/Ryan Anderson
C: Mason Plumlee/Tiago Splitter
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: airbelinelli on August 10, 2016, 11:33:55 PM
OKC Thunder

PG: Jeff Teague/Leandro Barbosa
SG: Rodney Hood/Brandon Rush
SF: C. J. Miles/Jeremy Lamb
PF: Draymond Green/Ryan Anderson
C: Mason Plumlee/Tiago Splitter

I really like what you did getting some good passers to go with Draymond especially Plumlee and a holefully healthy Splitter. I think Hood is very underrated and he's a fantastic fit on this team as well. I love the shooting off the bench, but the lack of defense hurts. Barbosa/Rush/Lamb/Anderson/Splitter will let in more than they can score. Get some defensive guys with the remaining picks.

 I think the only issue I have, is you don't necessarily have a pure scorer to help take the offensive load off of Draymond. Teague is a fine player but hes not necessarily the passer needed to work with Green.

Overall well done building around Green, but not perfect.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Denis998 on August 11, 2016, 12:42:39 AM
Looks like my roster is filling out well. I feel like I can play both big or small lineups
What do you guys think of my bench, I really like it but I feel like there are a few guys that might not be common names

Reggie Jackson --- Ish Smith
CJ McCollum --- Tim Hardaway Jr. --- RJ Hunter
Rondae Hollis-Jefferson --- Lance Thomas
Blake Griffin --- Jon Leuer
Gorgui Dieng --- Joel Embiid
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: snively on August 11, 2016, 01:42:47 AM
Looks like my roster is filling out well. I feel like I can play both big or small lineups
What do you guys think of my bench, I really like it but I feel like there are a few guys that might not be common names

Reggie Jackson --- Ish Smith
CJ McCollum --- Tim Hardaway Jr. --- RJ Hunter
Rondae Hollis-Jefferson --- Lance Thomas
Blake Griffin --- Jon Leuer
Gorgui Dieng --- Joel Embiid

Scary to depend on Embiid as your primary big man back-up. Could be good, could be lousy, could be complete unavailable. I'd get some big man insurance for him ASAP.

Would like to see a defensive alternate for Leuer as well - he really struggles defensively for as good as he shoots the ball.

I'd go defense with all of your remaining picks - you have an extraordinarily explosive offensive team with your top 3 guys, but RHJ is your only genuinely good defender (Griffin and Dieng solid too, but they have some limitations as defensive bigs - Dieng a bit of a lightweight who can get manhandled and Griffin handicapped a bit by his standing reach)
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: KG Living Legend on August 11, 2016, 06:34:25 AM
 Any suggestions on who you would Start at the three for this team.

 Okafor Sabonis
 Randle Maker Ellenson
 Evan Turner/ Jeramai Grant/ Caris Levert
 Wade Valentine
 Lowry

 Levert is like a more athletic Evan Turner, that can shoot the three .446% from three last year.

 Grant is a very good defender , he can get you 13 ppg 6 rpg 2 bpg 1 spg per 36.

 Turner is rock solid but doesn't space the floor.

 Valentine is my guy and can really shoot it but will struggle some on Defense.

 If anyone has a three and D SF on the block let me know. I have tons of Bigs.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Rondo2287 on August 11, 2016, 07:18:05 AM
Any suggestions on who you would Start at the three for this team.

 Okafor Sabonis
 Randle Maker Ellenson
 Evan Turner/ Jeramai Grant/ Caris Levert
 Wade Valentine
 Lowry

 Levert is like a more athletic Evan Turner, that can shoot the three .446% from three last year.

 Grant is a very good defender , he can get you 13 ppg 6 rpg 2 bpg 1 spg per 36.

 Turner is rock solid but doesn't space the floor.

 Valentine is my guy and can really shoot it but will struggle some on Defense.

 If anyone has a three and D SF on the block let me know. I have tons of Bigs.
I think your starting lineup is fine, I wouldn't overthink it
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Celts Fan 508 on August 11, 2016, 10:29:32 AM
Yoki, where did you get those percentages? Rose shot 42% last year, and 29% from 3. His career averages are 44%, and 30% from 3. He has never shot 37.5% from 3 in any season.

They are D-Rose's stats from after the All-Star break. 21 games.

Woof cherry picking stats without citing the context.  Rough move Yoki

It's not cherry picking when it's true. The last half of the season, he was doing great. And recent stats matter, right?  ;)

And I believe I did mention it's after the All-Star break.

Edit: I didn't.

WHOOPS. Sorry. I had that in mind, guess I forgot to add it... Ah crabs... Sorry. Sorry. Sorry.

You also need to factor in that the Bulls were 2.2 points worse when Rose was on the floor.  Additionally he couldn't even get to 1 Win Share with all of his minutes that is pathetic.  Plus he is an alleged  rapist who will hopefully be suspended for a significant portion of the season. 

You might be right but I will never root for a player like that regardless of what team they play for.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Bucketgetter on August 11, 2016, 12:13:24 PM
Sacramento Kings

PG Damian Lillard / Wade Baldwin IV / D.J. Augustin
SG Kentavious Caldwell-Pope / Rodney Stuckey
SF Kawhi Leonard / Taurean Prince
PF Marvin Williams / Andrew Nicholson
C  John Henson / Boban Marjanovic / Jeff Withey

This is my squad through 12. Any comments or concerns?
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: BigAlTheFuture on August 11, 2016, 12:15:48 PM
Sacramento Kings

PG Damian Lillard / Wade Baldwin IV / D.J. Augustin
SG Kentavious Caldwell-Pope / Rodney Stuckey
SF Kawhi Leonard / Taurean Prince
PF Marvin Williams / Andrew Nicholson
C  John Henson / Boban Marjanovic / Jeff Withey

This is my squad through 12. Any comments or concerns?

1-4 is fantastic. I'm a bit skeptical about your C position. Bench is mediocre as well. 1-4 can hang with anybody though.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: riah32 on August 11, 2016, 12:42:15 PM
Looking for a trade to try to make my team better.
Pg: Rondo/Rivers
Sg: Butler/Mudiay/Meeks/Richardson
Sf:  Harrison Barnes/Beasely
Pf:  Jerebko/Faried
C:   Gobert/Asik
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: RJ87 on August 11, 2016, 01:07:35 PM
Updated Brooklyn Nets through 12

Starters
C: DeMarcus Cousins
PF: Kelly Olynyk
SF: Andrew Wiggins
SG: Jerryd Bayless/Greivis Vasquez
PG: Kris Dunn

Bench
F: Omri Casspi
G: Greivis Vasquez/Jerryd Bayless
F/C: Nene Hilario
PF: Kris Humphries
SG: Nik Stauskas

Still not sure who gets the starting nod at the 2.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: snively on August 11, 2016, 01:17:10 PM
Updated Brooklyn Nets through 12

Starters
C: DeMarcus Cousins
PF: Kelly Olynyk
SF: Andrew Wiggins
SG: Jerryd Bayless/Greivis Vasquez
PG: Kris Dunn

Bench
F: Omri Casspi
G: Greivis Vasquez/Jerryd Bayless
F/C: Nene Hilario
PF: Kris Humphries
SG: Nik Stauskas

Still not sure who gets the starting nod at the 2.


The guard depth in the league just sucks now.

I'd look for a trade if I were you to address that 2-guard spot.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: pearljammer10 on August 11, 2016, 01:19:09 PM
Boston after today's round:

Tony Parker/Mo Williams
Alec Burks/Manu Ginobili/KJ McDaniels
Al Farouq-Aminu/Jared Dudley/Tony Snell
Dirk Nowitzki/JaMychal Green
Deandre Jordan/Roy Hibbert/Alex Len
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: max215 on August 11, 2016, 01:34:54 PM
Sacramento Kings

PG Damian Lillard / Wade Baldwin IV / D.J. Augustin
SG Kentavious Caldwell-Pope / Rodney Stuckey
SF Kawhi Leonard / Taurean Prince
PF Marvin Williams / Andrew Nicholson
C  John Henson / Boban Marjanovic / Jeff Withey

This is my squad through 12. Any comments or concerns?

I love it.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: RJ87 on August 11, 2016, 01:39:24 PM
Updated Brooklyn Nets through 12

Starters
C: DeMarcus Cousins
PF: Kelly Olynyk
SF: Andrew Wiggins
SG: Jerryd Bayless/Greivis Vasquez
PG: Kris Dunn

Bench
F: Omri Casspi
G: Greivis Vasquez/Jerryd Bayless
F/C: Nene Hilario
PF: Kris Humphries
SG: Nik Stauskas

Still not sure who gets the starting nod at the 2.


The guard depth in the league just sucks now.

I'd look for a trade if I were you to address that 2-guard spot.

Yeah, I'm going to try to do something but it takes two to tango...I think I'll have to go with a big lineup of Dunn/Wiggins/Casspi/Olynyk/Cousins.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: snively on August 11, 2016, 02:03:50 PM
Sacramento Kings

PG Damian Lillard / Wade Baldwin IV / D.J. Augustin
SG Kentavious Caldwell-Pope / Rodney Stuckey
SF Kawhi Leonard / Taurean Prince
PF Marvin Williams / Andrew Nicholson
C  John Henson / Boban Marjanovic / Jeff Withey

This is my squad through 12. Any comments or concerns?


Feeling good about stealing Capela from you.  Otherwise your starting line-up would be pretty intimidating.

As of now, you've got a fearsome offensive team, with tremendous perimeter defense and a nice blend of talents (a little green with Baldwin/Prince but the skill-sets are right).

But your big man rotation has a ton of question marks, especially at the 5.

Personally, I'd start Boban and try to use him like Indy use to use Hibbert - with all that defensive quickness around him, his super-slowness won't be as big an issue, and he can focus on his strengths playing off all that offensive talent.

Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Bucketgetter on August 11, 2016, 03:08:22 PM
Sacramento Kings

PG Damian Lillard / Wade Baldwin IV / D.J. Augustin
SG Kentavious Caldwell-Pope / Rodney Stuckey
SF Kawhi Leonard / Taurean Prince
PF Marvin Williams / Andrew Nicholson
C  John Henson / Boban Marjanovic / Jeff Withey

This is my squad through 12. Any comments or concerns?


Feeling good about stealing Capela from you.  Otherwise your starting line-up would be pretty intimidating.

As of now, you've got a fearsome offensive team, with tremendous perimeter defense and a nice blend of talents (a little green with Baldwin/Prince but the skill-sets are right).

But your big man rotation has a ton of question marks, especially at the 5.

Personally, I'd start Boban and try to use him like Indy use to use Hibbert - with all that defensive quickness around him, his super-slowness won't be as big an issue, and he can focus on his strengths playing off all that offensive talent.
I was thinking about starting Boban, but I think Henson is safer and less likely to get exposed on D. Henson doesn't offer much on offense but I don't really need him to do a lot given my "fearsome offense"  ;D Boban is also raw and hasn't played that much, so some voters might not respect his true awesomeness.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: mkogav on August 11, 2016, 03:09:34 PM
Looking for a trade to try to make my team better.
Pg: Rondo/Rivers
Sg: Butler/Mudiay/Meeks/Richardson
Sf:  Harrison Barnes/Beasely
Pf:  Jerebko/Faried
C:   Gobert/Asik

Mudiay is not a SG. Rivers is a combo guard, I would suggest swapping those two or moving Richardson up to backup SG and Rivers to 3d string PG behind Rondo/Mudiay.

I like that you are playing Jerebko over Faried... not that Jerebko is anything except 'ok'. Faried is terrible.

Here's a lineup that I really like:

Pg: Rondo/Mudiay/Rivers
Sg: Butler/Meeks
Sf:  Richardson/Beasely
Pf:  Harrison Barnes/Jerebko/Faried
C:   Gobert/Asik

Barnes and Jerebko don't make the toughest PF combo. With Gobert guarding the rim, it's probably ok.

Mk
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: mkogav on August 11, 2016, 03:16:09 PM
Sacramento Kings

PG Damian Lillard / Wade Baldwin IV / D.J. Augustin
SG Kentavious Caldwell-Pope / Rodney Stuckey
SF Kawhi Leonard / Taurean Prince
PF Marvin Williams / Andrew Nicholson
C  John Henson / Boban Marjanovic / Jeff Withey

This is my squad through 12. Any comments or concerns?


That is one of the better squads that I have seen. I really like the Lillard / Kawhi pairing.

A couple of thoughts:

1. D.J. should be the backup PG, not a rookie.

2. Backup PF is thin. I guess Henson could spot some minutes there to. You could really use a guy like DWest (via trade).

2. You need a decent backup SF and a veteran low usage/playoff tested C, e.g. Birdman recently played this role for the Heat.

Mk
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: riah32 on August 11, 2016, 03:19:38 PM
Looking for a trade to try to make my team better.
Pg: Rondo/Rivers
Sg: Butler/Mudiay/Meeks/Richardson
Sf:  Harrison Barnes/Beasely
Pf:  Jerebko/Faried
C:   Gobert/Asik

Mudiay is not a SG. Rivers is a combo guard, I would suggest swapping those two or moving Richardson up to backup SG and Rivers to 3d string PG behind Rondo/Mudiay.

I like that you are playing Jerebko over Faried... not that Jerebko is anything except 'ok'. Faried is terrible.

Here's a lineup that I really like:

Pg: Rondo/Mudiay/Rivers
Sg: Butler/Meeks
Sf:  Richardson/Beasely
Pf:  Harrison Barnes/Jerebko/Faried
C:   Gobert/Asik

Barnes and Jerebko don't make the toughest PF combo. With Gobert guarding the rim, it's probably ok.

Mk

I forgot to mention that I put mudiay as the back Sg because he will more than likely cover the Sg spot on defense and will have primary ball handling duties and rivers will play of the ball.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Bucketgetter on August 11, 2016, 03:41:06 PM
Sacramento Kings

PG Damian Lillard / Wade Baldwin IV / D.J. Augustin
SG Kentavious Caldwell-Pope / Rodney Stuckey
SF Kawhi Leonard / Taurean Prince
PF Marvin Williams / Andrew Nicholson
C  John Henson / Boban Marjanovic / Jeff Withey

This is my squad through 12. Any comments or concerns?


That is one of the better squads that I have seen. I really like the Lillard / Kawhi pairing.

A couple of thoughts:

1. D.J. should be the backup PG, not a rookie.

2. Backup PF is thin. I guess Henson could spot some minutes there to. You could really use a guy like DWest (via trade).

2. You need a decent backup SF and a veteran low usage/playoff tested C, e.g. Birdman recently played this role for the Heat.

Mk
I figure D.J. is a good 3rd stringer in case Baldwin stumbles out the gate, but I would like to give him a shot next to Stuckey because he is a good fit with him. Stuckey can take some of the ball handling duties and allow Baldwin to play off ball. But D.J. is a good option if Baldwin doesn't work. Thanks for the feedback MK.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: airbelinelli on August 11, 2016, 04:12:55 PM
Team is just about rounding into its final form. Let me know what you guys all think. The positions are pretty fluid especially the frontcourt, but I like the way it looks

PG: Bledsoe/Lin/Harris
SG: Beal/Henderson/ Ingram
SF: Winslow/ McDermott/Ingram/Acy
PF: Turner/McRoberts/Acy/Hernangomez
C: Adams/Turner/Felicio

I still firmly believe this is a playoff team, and also one of the frontrunners for highest potential.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Celtic Fan Forever on August 11, 2016, 04:24:13 PM
Orlando through 13 rounds:

C: Nikola Jokic / Ian Mahinmi / Chris Andersen
F: Mirza Teletovic / Kyle O'Quinn / Lavoy Allen
F: Paul George / Tyreke Evans
G: Kent Bazemore / Terrence Ross / Gary Neal
G: Patrick Beverley / Patty Mills / Toney Douglas
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: snively on August 11, 2016, 04:29:01 PM
Sacramento Kings

PG Damian Lillard / Wade Baldwin IV / D.J. Augustin
SG Kentavious Caldwell-Pope / Rodney Stuckey
SF Kawhi Leonard / Taurean Prince
PF Marvin Williams / Andrew Nicholson
C  John Henson / Boban Marjanovic / Jeff Withey

This is my squad through 12. Any comments or concerns?


Feeling good about stealing Capela from you.  Otherwise your starting line-up would be pretty intimidating.

As of now, you've got a fearsome offensive team, with tremendous perimeter defense and a nice blend of talents (a little green with Baldwin/Prince but the skill-sets are right).

But your big man rotation has a ton of question marks, especially at the 5.

Personally, I'd start Boban and try to use him like Indy use to use Hibbert - with all that defensive quickness around him, his super-slowness won't be as big an issue, and he can focus on his strengths playing off all that offensive talent.
I was thinking about starting Boban, but I think Henson is safer and less likely to get exposed on D. Henson doesn't offer much on offense but I don't really need him to do a lot given my "fearsome offense"  ;D Boban is also raw and hasn't played that much, so some voters might not respect his true awesomeness.

I don't rate Henson much on D. Blocks shots but gets pushed around. Not the kind of guy who can anchor a D. He's more harmful offensively than he is helpful defensively.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: RJ87 on August 11, 2016, 04:40:40 PM
Starters
C: DeMarcus Cousins
PF: Kelly Olynyk
SF: Andrew Wiggins
SG: Jerryd Bayless
PG: Kris Dunn

Bench
F: Omri Casspi
G: Greivis Vasquez
F/C: Nene Hilario
PF: Kris Humphries
SG: Nik Stauskas
F/C: Deyonta Davis
F/C: Skal Labissière
PG: Demetrius Jackson

Went for a youth moment at the back of the draft. If anyone has a young wing for one of my young bigs, PM me.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on August 11, 2016, 04:45:09 PM
Alright. Pending some issues with draft choices, this SHOULD be it.

2016 CB Draft Utah Jazz

C: Jonas Valanciunas / David Lee / Anderson Varejao

F: Karl-Anthony Towns / Mike Scott / Josh Smith

F: Wilson Chandler / Quincy Pondexter

G: Khris Middleton / Jonathon Simmons

G: Derrick Rose / Shaun Livingston / Ty Lawson

I gotta say, if this is 2012, that third wave seems to be the makings of a decent starting line-up.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: riah32 on August 11, 2016, 04:58:19 PM
Have trouble finding a dance partner, err I mean trade partner lol.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: BigAlTheFuture on August 11, 2016, 05:01:02 PM
PG: Russell Westbrook/Trey Burke
SG: Tony Allen/Troy Daniels/Justin Holiday
SF: Trevor Ariza/Corey Brewer
PF: Trey Lyles/Larry Nance Jr./Mike Muscala
C: Tristan Thompson/Joffrey Lauvergne

Inactive: Chris Bosh

I think I have a really strong bench.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on August 11, 2016, 05:02:53 PM
PG: Russell Westbrook/Trey Burke
SG: Tony Allen/Troy Daniels/Justin Holiday
SF: Trevor Ariza/Corey Brewer
PF: Trey Lyles/Larry Nance Jr./Mike Muscala
C: Tristan Thompson/Joffrey Lauvergne

Inactive: Chris Bosh

I think I have a really strong bench.

I wish Memphis gives Troy Daniels a chance.

Always have been a fan of that kid since I saw him beat Portland in the Playoffs. How is he not getting atleast 15 minutes a game is beyond be. He's not good on defense, but he isn't too terrible to not warrant playing time. And he can shoot the lights out.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: snively on August 11, 2016, 05:04:35 PM
PG: Russell Westbrook/Trey Burke
SG: Tony Allen/Troy Daniels/Justin Holiday
SF: Trevor Ariza/Corey Brewer
PF: Trey Lyles/Larry Nance Jr./Mike Muscala
C: Tristan Thompson/Joffrey Lauvergne

Inactive: Chris Bosh

I think I have a really strong bench.

I wish Memphis gives Troy Daniels a chance.

Always have been a fan of that kid since I saw him beat Portland in the Playoffs. How is he not getting atleast 15 minutes a game is beyond be. He's not good on defense, but he isn't too terrible to not warrant playing time. And he can shoot the lights out.

He worked well with Big Al in Charlotte.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: airbelinelli on August 11, 2016, 05:09:12 PM
Orlando through 13 rounds:

C: Nikola Jokic / Ian Mahinmi / Chris Andersen
F: Mirza Teletovic / Kyle O'Quinn / Lavoy Allen
F: Paul George / Tyreke Evans
G: Kent Bazemore / Terrence Ross / Gary Neal
G: Patrick Beverley / Patty Mills / Toney Douglas

Who do you play through on offense? Is it just Paul George? I almost like George at the 4 and Reke coming in and taking a lot more PG/ballhandling duties.

Something to think about for the playoffs
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Celtic Fan Forever on August 11, 2016, 05:17:04 PM
Orlando through 13 rounds:

C: Nikola Jokic / Ian Mahinmi / Chris Andersen
F: Mirza Teletovic / Kyle O'Quinn / Lavoy Allen
F: Paul George / Tyreke Evans
G: Kent Bazemore / Terrence Ross / Gary Neal
G: Patrick Beverley / Patty Mills / Toney Douglas

Who do you play through on offense? Is it just Paul George? I almost like George at the 4 and Reke coming in and taking a lot more PG/ballhandling duties.

Something to think about for the playoffs

A good amount of offense can be run through Jokic in the high post as well, he had a similar assist percentage to Horford and Marc Gasol this year as a rookie. But yeah I definitely plan on playing a solid amount of small ball with Paul at the 4 and Tyreke handling the playmaking duties. I feel like my point guards can all excell off the ball, Beverley and Mills are very active and great spot up guys. They should mesh well with Evans.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: DinoGanga on August 11, 2016, 06:51:40 PM
Guys don't hold back honest opinion 82-0 or 81-1?

PG: Darren Collison / Elfrid Payton / Tim Frazier
SG: Avery Bradley / Seth Curry
SF: Jae Crowder / Shaun Kilpatrick
PF: LeBron James / Derrick Williams / JJ Hickson
C: Jusuf Nurkic / Meyers Leonard / Nikola Pekovic

I wanted to draft Rondo Smart and Olynyk just to listen to the discussions
About LeBron pairing up with basically the Celts but whatever.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: DinoGanga on August 11, 2016, 06:54:19 PM
Anyone remember the worst roster LeBron ever took to the finals?
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Who on August 11, 2016, 07:04:23 PM
Guys don't hold back honest opinion 82-0 or 81-1?

PG: Darren Collison / Elfrid Payton / Tim Frazier
SG: Avery Bradley / Seth Curry
SF: Jae Crowder / Shaun Kilpatrick
PF: LeBron James / Derrick Williams / JJ Hickson
C: Jusuf Nurkic / Meyers Leonard / Nikola Pekovic

I wanted to draft Rondo Smart and Olynyk just to listen to the discussions
About LeBron pairing up with basically the Celts but whatever.

I really like your starting lineup. One of the best in the league. Maybe the best. I love LeBron next to Crowder and Avery Bradley. I think that will work very well. Nurkic and Darren Collison round the starting unit nicely.

I like Elfrid Payton and Seth Curry as your backup guards. The backup frontcourt players are more of a question mark but the rest of the team is strong enough to overcome that. Derrick Williams should be useful enough.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Bucketgetter on August 11, 2016, 07:09:40 PM
Sacramento Kings

PG Damian Lillard / Wade Baldwin IV / D.J. Augustin
SG Kentavious Caldwell-Pope / Rodney Stuckey
SF Kawhi Leonard / Taurean Prince
PF Marvin Williams / Andrew Nicholson
C  John Henson / Boban Marjanovic / Jeff Withey

This is my squad through 12. Any comments or concerns?


Feeling good about stealing Capela from you.  Otherwise your starting line-up would be pretty intimidating.

As of now, you've got a fearsome offensive team, with tremendous perimeter defense and a nice blend of talents (a little green with Baldwin/Prince but the skill-sets are right).

But your big man rotation has a ton of question marks, especially at the 5.

Personally, I'd start Boban and try to use him like Indy use to use Hibbert - with all that defensive quickness around him, his super-slowness won't be as big an issue, and he can focus on his strengths playing off all that offensive talent.
I was thinking about starting Boban, but I think Henson is safer and less likely to get exposed on D. Henson doesn't offer much on offense but I don't really need him to do a lot given my "fearsome offense"  ;D Boban is also raw and hasn't played that much, so some voters might not respect his true awesomeness.

I don't rate Henson much on D. Blocks shots but gets pushed around. Not the kind of guy who can anchor a D. He's more harmful offensively than he is helpful defensively.
Thats true, and if I am in the playoffs against a guy like Cousins or Drummond, I would strongly consider starting Boban so I don't get muscled around. TP for the suggestions.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: KGs Knee on August 11, 2016, 07:49:49 PM
This is probably the final version of the CBD Charlotte Hornets:

C- Andrew Bogut | Marreese Speights
F- Al Horford | Brandon Bass
F- Chandler Parsons | PJ Tucker | Joe Ingles
G- JR Smith | Tyler Johnson
G- Mike Conley Jr | Raul Neto | Marcelo Huertas

I'm pleased with the versatility, fit, and ability to play both big or small and up tempo or more half court oriented. Should be a solid defensive team that can attack on offense in a variety of ways and can be a threat from the perimeter shooting the ball from all 5 positions.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Kane3387 on August 11, 2016, 10:25:55 PM
Cleveland Cavaliers

 C: Greg Monroe
PF: Serge Ibaka
SF: Joe Johnson
SG: Brandon Knight
PG: Andre Igoudala

Bench:

Kyle Korver
Thabo Sefolosha
Al Jefferson
Taj Gibson
Brandon Jennings
Michael Carter Williams
Richard Jefferson
Udonis Haslem
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: KG Living Legend on August 12, 2016, 04:53:08 AM

 Does this team look any better with two role players in the starting five and then bring Randle and Turner off the bench.

 Okafor
 Sabonis
 J. Grant
 Wade
 Lowry

 Sabonis can guard screen and role better than Randle and plays his role very well.

 Lowry, Wade, Grant provides a very good Defensive unit and the bigs rebound well.

 Bring Turner and Randle off the bench where they can be agrresive and score more. Or would you just start Randle and Turner and sacrifice defense.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Soytiz on August 12, 2016, 06:01:17 AM
The NOP:

C - Vucevic
F - Covington
F - Batum
G - Clarkson
G - Wall

Bench:

G/F - Will Barton
C - Timofey Mozgov
F/C - Terrence Jones
G - Jerian Grant
F/C - Luis Scola
G - Tony Wroten
F/C - Justin Hamilton
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Who on August 12, 2016, 07:37:17 AM
Cleveland Cavaliers

 C: Greg Monroe
PF: Serge Ibaka
SF: Joe Johnson
SG: Brandon Knight
PG: Andre Igoudala

Bench:

Kyle Korver
Thabo Sefolosha
Al Jefferson
Taj Gibson
Brandon Jennings
Michael Carter Williams
Richard Jefferson
Udonis Haslem

I love your bench. Probably the best in the CB League.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Who on August 12, 2016, 08:11:32 AM
The NOP:

C - Vucevic
F - Covington
F - Batum
G - Clarkson
G - Wall

Bench:

G/F - Will Barton
C - Timofey Mozgov
F/C - Terrence Jones
G - Jerian Grant
F/C - Luis Scola
G - Tony Wroten
F/C - Justin Hamilton

Not sure how well Clarkson and Wall will play together. I liked Clarkson better as your 6th man when he can come in, be ball-dominant and take a lot of shots. I thought Clarkson struggled to play with other ball-dominant guards in LAL. I think Wall would be tough for him.

Clarkson is really only effective when he is allowed to have the ball in his hands and that won't happen much when playing alongside John Wall. And after Wall you have Nic Batum as your secondary ball-handler (superior passer to Clarkson) and you need to Vucevic a large dose of touches as well. So there isn't much time on the ball there for Clarkson to work with in the starting lineup. Clarkson would be awesome as a scoring guard off the bench though. I think he'd work very well in that role.

I love the shooting around John Wall. That will make his life so much easier and make him much more effective offensively. Vucevic is an excellent jump-shooting center. Nic Batum is lights out from SF. Going small and playing Covington at PF gives you one of the best jump-shooting frontcourts in the league. It will be a nightmare for opposing teams to try and help on John Wall's penetration without giving up open jumpers to those guys.

I like Will Barton as a starting SG if you do move Clarkson back to the bench. I like the length 2-4 with Barton, Batum and Covington. And John Wall too. Big PG. Lots of ability to switch on defense and play active help defense jumping into passing lanes with all that length. Barton and Wall would also give you a great rebounding backcourt. Deadly transition team as well 1-4.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: nickagneta on August 12, 2016, 09:09:43 AM
OKC

Starters

PG: Jeff Teague
SG: Rodney Hood
SF: C. J. Miles
PF: Draymond Green
C: Mason Plumlee

Bench

PG: Leandro Barbosa/Brian Robets
SG: Brandon Rush
SF: Alonzo Gee/Jeremy Lamb
PF: Ryan Anderson
C: Tiago Splitter

This team will have multiple small ball line ups, one defensive lineup with length, a bigs lineup, and the starting lineup
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Who on August 12, 2016, 09:25:47 AM
OKC

Starters

PG: Jeff Teague
SG: Rodney Hood
SF: C. J. Miles
PF: Draymond Green
C: Mason Plumlee

Bench

PG: Leandro Barbosa/Brian Robets
SG: Brandon Rush
SF: Alonzo Gee/Jeremy Lamb
PF: Ryan Anderson
C: Tiago Splitter

This team will have multiple small ball line ups, one defensive lineup with length, a bigs lineup, and the starting lineup

I'd play B.Roberts as my backup PG and keep Barbosa at SG. I don't think Barbosa would fare well at PG these days. Barbosa has gotten older and is more comfortable at SG. I'd go with Brandon Rush as my backup SF and use Alonzo Gee (defensive specialist) and Jeremy Lamb as my 3rd stringers.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Soytiz on August 12, 2016, 09:30:31 AM
The NOP:

C - Vucevic
F - Covington
F - Batum
G - Clarkson
G - Wall

Bench:

G/F - Will Barton
C - Timofey Mozgov
F/C - Terrence Jones
G - Jerian Grant
F/C - Luis Scola
G - Tony Wroten
F/C - Justin Hamilton

Not sure how well Clarkson and Wall will play together. I liked Clarkson better as your 6th man when he can come in, be ball-dominant and take a lot of shots. I thought Clarkson struggled to play with other ball-dominant guards in LAL. I think Wall would be tough for him.

Clarkson is really only effective when he is allowed to have the ball in his hands and that won't happen much when playing alongside John Wall. And after Wall you have Nic Batum as your secondary ball-handler (superior passer to Clarkson) and you need to Vucevic a large dose of touches as well. So there isn't much time on the ball there for Clarkson to work with in the starting lineup. Clarkson would be awesome as a scoring guard off the bench though. I think he'd work very well in that role.

I love the shooting around John Wall. That will make his life so much easier and make him much more effective offensively. Vucevic is an excellent jump-shooting center. Nic Batum is lights out from SF. Going small and playing Covington at PF gives you one of the best jump-shooting frontcourts in the league. It will be a nightmare for opposing teams to try and help on John Wall's penetration without giving up open jumpers to those guys.

I like Will Barton as a starting SG if you do move Clarkson back to the bench. I like the length 2-4 with Barton, Batum and Covington. And John Wall too. Big PG. Lots of ability to switch on defense and play active help defense jumping into passing lanes with all that length. Barton and Wall would also give you a great rebounding backcourt. Deadly transition team as well 1-4.

Noted! Was thinking about that too and basically the reason I posted the lineup... Thanks a bunch!
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Gainesville Celtic on August 12, 2016, 09:56:51 AM
PG   Kemba Walker
SG   Josh Richardson
SF   Otto Porter
PF   Derrick Favors
C   Marcin Gortat
   
Rotation
6   Zach Randolph
7   E'Twaun Moore
8   Cory Joseph
9   Matt Barnes (or Morrow or Baynes situationally)
   
Bench
B1   Anthony Morrow
B2   Aron Baynes
B3   Richaun Holmes
B4   T.J. McConnell
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: wdleehi on August 12, 2016, 10:11:42 AM

The Now Knicks

PG  Irving
SG C. Lee
SF Shabazz Muhammad
PF Marcus Morris
C  Drummond


Bench
PG N. Cole
SG Hield
SF/SG V. Carter
SF Prince (the old guy)
SF/PF Livio Jean-Charles
PF/C Sullinger
PF/C Marquese Chriss
C Tyler Zeller


Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: nickagneta on August 12, 2016, 10:15:34 AM
OKC

Starters

PG: Jeff Teague
SG: Rodney Hood
SF: C. J. Miles
PF: Draymond Green
C: Mason Plumlee

Bench

PG: Leandro Barbosa/Brian Robets
SG: Brandon Rush
SF: Alonzo Gee/Jeremy Lamb
PF: Ryan Anderson
C: Tiago Splitter

This team will have multiple small ball line ups, one defensive lineup with length, a bigs lineup, and the starting lineup

I'd play B.Roberts as my backup PG and keep Barbosa at SG. I don't think Barbosa would fare well at PG these days. Barbosa has gotten older and is more comfortable at SG. I'd go with Brandon Rush as my backup SF and use Alonzo Gee (defensive specialist) and Jeremy Lamb as my 3rd stringers.
Thanks Who but I figured when Rush and Barbosa were in the game, Draymond would be in there with them and he would become the point forward that facilitates the offense. Barbosa would just have to bring up the ball and get it to Dray, which I think he is capable of. I also don't like having Roberts, Leando and Rush as a second team trio as that would make the team way to small.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: wdleehi on August 12, 2016, 10:32:14 AM
PG   Kemba Walker
SG   Josh Richardson
SF   Otto Porter
PF   Derrick Favors
C   Marcin Gortat
   
Rotation
6   Zach Randolph
7   E'Twaun Moore
8   Cory Joseph
9   Matt Barnes (or Morrow or Baynes situationally)
   
Bench
B1   Anthony Morrow
B2   Aron Baynes
B3   Richaun Holmes
B4   T.J. McConnell


Love your PG and big man rotation.  I think there is a lot for your starting swings to prove.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Who on August 12, 2016, 11:20:47 AM
Houston Rockets

Coach Mike D'Antoni

Starters

 C: Anthony Davis
PF: Nikola Mirotic
SF: DeMarre Carroll
SG: Gary Harris
PG: Goran Dragic

Bench Rotation - Sergio Rodriguez, Terry Rozier, Kyle Anderson, Festus Ezeli

Deep Bench - Ben McLemore, Reggie Bullock, Kyle Singler, Anthony Tolliver, Brandon Wright
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: snively on August 12, 2016, 11:43:11 AM
Pretty much final Hoiberg Bulls:

PG Rubio / Sessions / Watson
SG Danny Green / Shumpert / H. Thompson
SF Durant / Gerald Green / (Zipser)
PF Markieff Morris / T. Booker / (Zipser)
C Capela / Frye / Mejri

Kicking myself for going Thompson over Bjelica (I blame the newborn for keeping me up at night), but otherwise pretty pleased with the overall roster.

Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: wdleehi on August 12, 2016, 12:13:26 PM


The Now Knicks

PG  Irving
SG C. Lee
SF Shabazz Muhammad
PF Marcus Morris
C  Drummond


Bench
PG N. Cole
PG Tyler Ulis
SG Hield
SF/SG V. Carter
SF Prince (the old guy)
SF/PF Livio Jean-Charles
PF/C Sullinger
PF/C Marquese Chriss
C Tyler Zeller
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Celtic Fan Forever on August 12, 2016, 12:15:35 PM
Houston Rockets

Coach Mike D'Antoni

Starters

 C: Anthony Davis
PF: Nikola Mirotic
SF: DeMarre Carroll
SG: Gary Harris
PG: Goran Dragic

Bench Rotation - Sergio Rodriguez, Terry Rozier, Kyle Anderson, Festus Ezeli

Deep Bench - Ben McLemore, Reggie Bullock, Kyle Singler, Anthony Tolliver, Brandon Wright

Great squad. I love Davis as a center in D'Antoni's offense, and plenty of shooting around him as well. Dragic is very underrated, and you have solid 3 and D wings in Harris and Carroll. My only concern is Rodriguez as your primary backup guard since he's a bit of an unknown in NBA play, but other than that is a very solid contender.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: wdleehi on August 12, 2016, 12:35:51 PM
Pretty much final Hoiberg Bulls:

PG Rubio / Sessions / Watson
SG Danny Green / Shumpert / H. Thompson
SF Durant / Gerald Green / (Zipser)
PF Markieff Morris / T. Booker / (Zipser)
C Capela / Frye / Mejri

Kicking myself for going Thompson over Bjelica (I blame the newborn for keeping me up at night), but otherwise pretty pleased with the overall roster.


I like the team except for the C depth.  Really needed a vet defender off the bench.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: snively on August 12, 2016, 12:42:07 PM
Pretty much final Hoiberg Bulls:

PG Rubio / Sessions / Watson
SG Danny Green / Shumpert / H. Thompson
SF Durant / Gerald Green / (Zipser)
PF Markieff Morris / T. Booker / (Zipser)
C Capela / Frye / Mejri

Kicking myself for going Thompson over Bjelica (I blame the newborn for keeping me up at night), but otherwise pretty pleased with the overall roster.


I like the team except for the C depth.  Really needed a vet defender off the bench.

I guess I like Mejri more than most - did a really nice job filling in for Zaza down the stretch for the Mavs and played a significant part in their last-ditch April run that got them into the playoffs.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: snively on August 12, 2016, 12:51:20 PM


The Now Knicks

PG  Irving
SG C. Lee
SF Shabazz Muhammad
PF Marcus Morris
C  Drummond


Bench
PG N. Cole
PG Tyler Ulis
SG Hield
SF/SG V. Carter
SF Prince (the old guy)
SF/PF Livio Jean-Charles
PF/C Sullinger
PF/C Marquese Chriss
C Tyler Zeller


Irving/Drummond a strong foundation, and excellent support pieces in Lee, Morris, Hield and Sully. Really like Livio and Chriss as development projects.

SF and back-up PG are the areas I'd go after you for - Muhammad a net negative despite his prolific scoring and nobody reliable to sub in for him (VC and Prince too old). Just don't like Norris Cole as a primary back-up. Ulis I really like as 3rd string though.


Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Celts Fan 508 on August 12, 2016, 12:54:02 PM
Anyone have a solid backup 3 that they will consider trading?  If so send me an offer
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: wdleehi on August 12, 2016, 12:57:16 PM


The Now Knicks

PG  Irving
SG C. Lee
SF Shabazz Muhammad
PF Marcus Morris
C  Drummond


Bench
PG N. Cole
PG Tyler Ulis
SG Hield
SF/SG V. Carter
SF Prince (the old guy)
SF/PF Livio Jean-Charles
PF/C Sullinger
PF/C Marquese Chriss
C Tyler Zeller


Irving/Drummond a strong foundation, and excellent support pieces in Lee, Morris, Hield and Sully. Really like Livio and Chriss as development projects.

SF and back-up PG are the areas I'd go after you for - Muhammad a net negative despite his prolific scoring and nobody reliable to sub in for him (VC and Prince too old). Just don't like Norris Cole as a primary back-up. Ulis I really like as 3rd string though.

Cole is fine for regular season and there will not be a need for a lot of key minutes in the playoff. 

As for SF, the mix of Carter and Morris sliding over from PF with Sully playing more PF minutes will keep the position covered.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on August 12, 2016, 01:20:12 PM
CB Draft Utah Jazz

C: Jonas Valanciunas / David Lee / Anderson Varejao

F: Karl-Anthony Towns / Mike Scott / Josh Smith

F: Wilson Chandler / Quincy Pondexter / James Ennis

G: Khris Middleton / Jonathon Simmon

G: Derrick Rose / Shaun Livingston / Ty Lawson

This is good to go, folks. Bring it.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: max215 on August 12, 2016, 02:49:08 PM
CB Draft Utah Jazz

C: Jonas Valanciunas / David Lee / Anderson Varejao

F: Karl-Anthony Towns / Mike Scott / Josh Smith

F: Wilson Chandler / Quincy Pondexter / James Ennis

G: Khris Middleton / Jonathon Simmon

G: Derrick Rose / Shaun Livingston / Ty Lawson

This is good to go, folks. Bring it.

Personally, I think Towns at the 4 is a huge waste.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: airbelinelli on August 12, 2016, 03:13:25 PM
PG: Bledsoe/Lin/ Harris
SG: Beal/ Henderson/Robinson III
SF: Winslow/McDermott/Ingram/Acy
PF: Turner/ McRoberts/Acy/Hernangomez
C: Adams/ Turner/ Felicio/ McRoberts

Deep, flexible, young, and well coached with Kerr at the helm. Where you you think these guys would land?


Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: wdleehi on August 12, 2016, 04:13:31 PM
The Now Finished Knicks (therefor, the team gets the Edgar treatment)





PG  Irving
SG C. Lee
SF Shabazz Muhammad
PF Marcus Morris
C  Drummond


Bench
PG N. Cole
PG Tyler Ulis
SG Hield
SF/SG V. Carter
SF Prince (the old guy)
SF/PF Livio Jean-Charles
PF/C Sullinger
PF/C Marquese Chriss
C Tyler Zeller
PF/C N. Collison
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: KGs Knee on August 12, 2016, 05:38:32 PM
Pretty much final Hoiberg Bulls:

PG Rubio / Sessions / Watson
SG Danny Green / Shumpert / H. Thompson
SF Durant / Gerald Green / (Zipser)
PF Markieff Morris / T. Booker / (Zipser)
C Capela / Frye / Mejri

Kicking myself for going Thompson over Bjelica (I blame the newborn for keeping me up at night), but otherwise pretty pleased with the overall roster.


I like the team except for the C depth.  Really needed a vet defender off the bench.

I think you'd see this team close out games with a Rubio - D Green - Shumpert - Durant - Morris lineup.  Put their best offensive lineup on the court.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: KGs Knee on August 12, 2016, 05:43:57 PM
Houston Rockets

Coach Mike D'Antoni

Starters

 C: Anthony Davis
PF: Nikola Mirotic
SF: DeMarre Carroll
SG: Gary Harris
PG: Goran Dragic

Bench Rotation - Sergio Rodriguez, Terry Rozier, Kyle Anderson, Festus Ezeli

Deep Bench - Ben McLemore, Reggie Bullock, Kyle Singler, Anthony Tolliver, Brandon Wright

This roster probably fits it's CBD coach better than any other team.  D'Antoni was made to coach an uptempo team like this with a fast and crafty PG and an elite offensive big man.  Davis gives a bit of defensive credibility here too (along with a few others).

I expect this team will still be closer to the bottom defensively, but will be overwhelming on offense.  Be interesting to see if this team can achieve more than those old Suns teams.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on August 12, 2016, 05:46:45 PM
CB Draft Utah Jazz

C: Jonas Valanciunas / David Lee / Anderson Varejao

F: Karl-Anthony Towns / Mike Scott / Josh Smith

F: Wilson Chandler / Quincy Pondexter / James Ennis

G: Khris Middleton / Jonathon Simmon

G: Derrick Rose / Shaun Livingston / Ty Lawson

This is good to go, folks. Bring it.

Personally, I think Towns at the 4 is a huge waste.

He plays with Gorgui Dieng most of the time and it turned out fine.

Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: pearljammer10 on August 12, 2016, 06:24:16 PM
The final Boston Celtics...

PG: Tony Parker/Mo Williams/Shabazz Napier
SG: Alec Burks/Manu Ginobili/KJ McDaniels
SF: Al Farouq-Aminu/Jared Dudely/Tony Snell
PF: Dirk Nowitzki/JaMychal Green
C:  Deandre Jordan/Roy Hibbert/Alex Len

Proven championship talent, established young athletes, balance of offense and defense on both starting lines and the bench, rebounding, defense...This team will win ball games.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: snively on August 12, 2016, 06:53:35 PM
The final Boston Celtics...

PG: Tony Parker/Mo Williams/Shabazz Napier
SG: Alec Burks/Manu Ginobili/KJ McDaniels
SF: Al Farouq-Aminu/Jared Dudely/Tony Snell
PF: Dirk Nowitzki/JaMychal Green
C:  Deandre Jordan/Roy Hibbert/Alex Len

Proven championship talent, established young athletes, balance of offense and defense on both starting lines and the bench, rebounding, defense...This team will win ball games.

4 scoring guards in the rotation: that's where they all got to!
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Celtic Fan Forever on August 12, 2016, 07:06:56 PM
Post draft roster for Orlando, need to cut 1 (probably Mickey or Clark)

PG: Patrick Beverley / Patty Mills / Toney Douglas
SG: Kent Bazemore / Terrence Ross / Gary Neal/ Ian Clark
SF: Paul George / Tyreke Evans
PF: Mirza Teletovic / Kyle O'Quinn / Lavoy Allen / Jordan Mickey
C:  Nikola Jokic / Ian Mahinmi / Chris Andersen
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: nickagneta on August 12, 2016, 08:02:10 PM
Unless I make a trade the Oklahoma City Thunder

PG: Jeff Teague/ Leandro Barbosa/ Brian Roberts
SG: Rodney Hood/ Brandon Rush
SF: C. J. Miles/ Alonzo Gee/ Jeremy Lamb
PF: Draymond Green/ Ryan Anderson/ Dante Cunningham
C: Mason Plumlee/ Tiago Splitter/ Jason Thompson

If you want to discuss trades, PM me. Anything possible.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Bucketgetter on August 12, 2016, 09:15:15 PM
If you're interested in any of my players, PM me. Roster is in my signature, and I would be targeting a big, physical center.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Celtic Fan Forever on August 13, 2016, 12:02:55 AM
Jokic looking real good in Olympic play.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: RJ87 on August 13, 2016, 10:43:11 AM
Current Nets roster.

C: DeMarcus Cousins/Nene Hilario/Deyonta Davis
PF: Kelly Olynyk/Kris Humphries/Skal Labissière
SF: Omri Casspi/Chase Budinger/Caron Butler
SG: Andrew Wiggins/Jerryd Bayless/Nik Stauskas
PG: Kris Dunn/Greivis Vasquez/Demetrius Jackson

If you have any interest in trades, PM me.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on August 13, 2016, 11:06:44 AM
Jokic looking real good in Olympic play.

Yeah, he balled yesterday vs the big boys of basketball. He's looking to be a really good player and could end up being a star in the next 2 years.

Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Celts Fan 508 on August 13, 2016, 01:51:54 PM
The Atlanta Hawks

PG-  Dennis Schroder-  Jose Calderon-  Isaiah Canaan
SG-  DeMar DeRozan- Lou Williams- Malcolm Brogdon
SF-  TJ Warren- (DeRozan)- Luke Babbitt- Jake Layman
PF-  Luol   Deng- David West- (Babbitt)
C- Kristaps Porzingis- Tyson Chandler- Jordan Hill


Im looking for another SF if anyone wants to make a trade today.  PM me if interested.

Also, do we have set times for the press conferences, I have been busy on a paper for grad school and missed the announcement, I will go back and look.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: KGs Knee on August 13, 2016, 03:07:07 PM
Also, do we have set times for the press conferences

I was wondering this myself
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Celts Fan 508 on August 13, 2016, 05:43:59 PM
Also, do we have set times for the press conferences

I was wondering this myself

Southeast and Southwest are Monday, not sure of the times yet though
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Gainesville Celtic on August 14, 2016, 10:42:41 AM
Also, do we have set times for the press conferences

I was wondering this myself

Southeast and Southwest are Monday, not sure of the times yet though

no set times. I'll make a post tonight. (Sorry my wife was in the ER yedterday (she's ok)
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: wdleehi on August 14, 2016, 02:30:20 PM
Also, do we have set times for the press conferences

I was wondering this myself

Southeast and Southwest are Monday, not sure of the times yet though

no set times. I'll make a post tonight. (Sorry my wife was in the ER yedterday (she's ok)


Glad your wife is OK.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: RJ87 on August 14, 2016, 09:36:33 PM
Also, do we have set times for the press conferences

I was wondering this myself

Southeast and Southwest are Monday, not sure of the times yet though

no set times. I'll make a post tonight. (Sorry my wife was in the ER yedterday (she's ok)

Hope all is well with your wife.
Title: Re: 2016 CB Draft: Discussion thread
Post by: Gainesville Celtic on August 14, 2016, 10:46:28 PM
thanks for the sentiments ya'll. We got good news (and ended up at the beach today) so she's fine, but it was worrisome yesterday.

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Southwest Division (http://forums.celticsblog.com/index.php?topic=86862.msg2157278#new) and Southeast Division (http://forums.celticsblog.com/index.php?topic=86863.msg2157279#new) press conferences start tomorrow (Monday).
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Monday 8/15 - Southwest & Southeast
Tuesday 8/16 - Northwest & Central
Wednesday 8/17 - Pacific & Atlantic

Thurs & Fri - Voting for playoffs

Week of Aug. 22 -- Playoff matchups





from the rules (if you want to see some from the 2013 CBD:
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1. After the draft each team will, on a day assigned to their division, post a press conference introducing their final team, describing why they put the roster together that way and any other salient or extraneous info. Here are just a few examples from the 2013 CB Draft (http://forums.celticsblog.com/index.php?board=70.20):

Houston Rockets' 2013 CB Draft presser (http://forums.celticsblog.com/index.php?topic=67442.msg1547171#msg1547171) (by BigAltheFuture)
Atlanta Hawks' 2013 CB Draft presser (http://forums.celticsblog.com/index.php?topic=67441.msg1547026#msg1547026) (by Champkind)
Cleveland Cavs 2013 CB Draft presser (http://forums.celticsblog.com/index.php?topic=67439.msg1545562#msg1545562) (by AB_Celtic)