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Title: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (20-62, #1)
Post by: SCeltic34 on June 22, 2016, 04:39:42 PM
You know what it is, CelticsBloggers.

It's not an outright pick this time, but the ability to swap picks with the Nets could prove to be another tremendous asset moving forward.  Even though I was confident the Nets would be terrible in 2015-2016, I honestly didn't envision their team finishing 3rd worst in the league.  Bottom 5 maybe, but 3rd worst?  Here's to hoping that the Nets have yet another miserable season.

Salaried Roster for 2016-2017 Season (free agents excluded):
PG: Lin/ Vasquez / Whitehead
SG: Bogdonavic / LeVert / Kilpatrick
SF:  RHJ  / Booker
PF: McCullough / Scola
C: Lopez / Anderson

Unrestricted Free Agents:
Donald Sloan
Sergey Karasev
Henry Sims

Restricted Free Agents:
Markel Brown - QO rescinded
Willie Reed - did not receive QO

Player Option:
Shane Larkin ($1.5 million)
Wayne Ellington ($1.5 million) - opted out of contract
Thomas Robinson ($1.05 million) - opted out of contract

Other Salary Cap Considerations:
Deron Williams ($5.75 million)
Andrea Bargnani ($323k buyout)
Jarrett Jack ($500k guarantee of his $6.3 million salary)
Cap holds - should be minimal per NetsDaily

Projected Salary Cap: $94 million
Estimated Nets cap space: ~$58.1 million
Salary figures are from basketball-reference.com and from  http://www.netsdaily.com/2016/5/28/11804786/latest-estimate-for-nets-cap-space-45-3-million (http://www.netsdaily.com/2016/5/28/11804786/latest-estimate-for-nets-cap-space-45-3-million)

Under Sean Marks, Brooklyn may opt to take a patient approach which could work to our benefit.

The core of the Nets is still weak, and few of their free agents listed above are worth retaining.  If I'm Brooklyn, I keep Markel Brown.  Should come cheap and has potential as a role player.  Kilpatrick was a nice pickup out of the D-League.  He's shown that he can score the ball on a team lacking offense - something the Nets sorely needed from the guard position - but he hasn't proven anything else outside of that yet.

Some things to monitor:

•   The Nets direly need an upgrade at PG.  Who will they bring aboard?   Would Rondo or Conley consider the Nets?
•   Will the Nets trade Lopez and/or Young for future draft picks, or use them as building blocks moving forward? (For now, it sounds like Marks will keep Lopez as a building block)
•   Will they be able to attract any quality players in free agency?  Brooklyn might be a good destination for players looking to re-establish their value in the league, since playing time should be easy to come by. 
•   Will they overpay for mediocre free agent talent - at the possible expense of future flexibility - to put together a respectable team? (I suspect they will not)

It's too early to evaluate, but I'd be shocked if the Nets manage to be a .500 team next season.  Here's to hoping for another great pick.  And hopefully Ainge doesn't trade the rights to swap or the 2018 Nets pick.
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: SCeltic34 on June 22, 2016, 04:40:58 PM
Of note:

If Boston exercises the right to swap picks with Brooklyn, we will convey our 2017 second rounder unless it falls between 31-45.  Ainge is a shrewd man.  Per RealGM:

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2017 second round draft pick from Boston
If Boston exercises its right to swap its 2017 1st round pick for Brooklyn's 2017 1st round pick, then Boston will convey its 2017 2nd round pick to Brooklyn protected for selections 31-45 (if this pick falls within its protected range and is therefore not conveyed, then Boston's obligation to Brooklyn will be extinguished) [Boston-Brooklyn, 7/12/2013]; this potential pick conveyance is the same as the one described in "2017 first round draft pick from Brooklyn" on Boston Incoming
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: max215 on June 22, 2016, 04:42:26 PM
And so it begins again; this should be fun.
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: Eddie20 on June 22, 2016, 04:43:09 PM
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‏@chadfordinsider
How resource poor are the Nets? Virtually every pick in the draft is for sale and I'm still not sure they can get into the first round

Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: Denis998 on June 22, 2016, 04:57:42 PM
May this thread bring us Joy and Happiness next season.
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: alldaboston on June 22, 2016, 04:58:51 PM
Ayyy let's get it!!!
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: GreenCoffeeBean on June 22, 2016, 05:36:31 PM
 Big bets no whammies Big bets no whammies Big bets no whammies Big bets no whammies Big bets no whammies

Top 2 pick in a draft with 2 blue chip prospects so that I don't need to check this board every 15 seconds please.
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: TheSundanceKid on June 23, 2016, 02:13:54 PM
So Thad Young has netted the #20 pick. A positive move for Brooklyn but certainly not going to make them better short term so it looks like a win for us!

My only concern is they might be looking to create cap space to make a splash in FA. They aren't an attractive proposition but still...
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: jpotter33 on June 23, 2016, 02:16:31 PM
Over/under on 16 Brooklyn wins next season?
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: Ed Hollison on June 23, 2016, 02:21:36 PM
My only concern is they might be looking to create cap space to make a splash in FA.

Personally I wouldn’t worry. Which difference-making superstar is going to that team? They have nothing basketball-related to offer any free agent. The best they can do would be to pay the max to someone who isn’t worth the max. Personally I don’t think Prokorov is interested in doing that type of spending any longer, but even if he does, Brooklyn still ends up giving us a high lottery pick in a year.
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: Ed Hollison on June 23, 2016, 02:28:14 PM
This very well could be the worst team in the league next year. Keep in mind that the Sixers are now actively trying to improve under Colangelo, the Lakers will be better adding (presumably) Ingram and who knows in free agency, and that stud core in Minnesota will all be one year older.

That leaves only one other team in the bottom five of last year’s standings besides Brooklyn: the Suns. They could legitimately be a tanking candidate next year, I’d say. But in terms of lottery teams numbered 6-8 you’ve got New Orleans (still have Anthony Davis), New York (actively trying to get better with Rose), Milwaukee (again, solid young core one year older).

Seriously… who else besides Phoenix is going to be worse than Brooklyn next year?
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: TheSundanceKid on June 23, 2016, 02:30:01 PM
My only concern is they might be looking to create cap space to make a splash in FA.

Personally I wouldn’t worry. Which difference-making superstar is going to that team? They have nothing basketball-related to offer any free agent. The best they can do would be to pay the max to someone who isn’t worth the max. Personally I don’t think Prokorov is interested in doing that type of spending any longer, but even if he does, Brooklyn still ends up giving us a high lottery pick in a year.

Yeah it's a minor fear but its new management, they're having a clear out so it's a fresh start. For a guy like Jennings it could be attractive as a place to rebuild his career. At the moment it seems like Marks is building from scratch but it could change over the summer
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: SCeltic34 on June 23, 2016, 07:28:22 PM
Updated salary numbers and roster post Thad Young trade.  To my knowledge they're accurate, but I'm no expert on the CBA.  The new estimated salary cap space for the Nets includes the salary for pick #20.
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: SCeltic34 on June 23, 2016, 07:29:16 PM
Keep an eye out for the Nets possibly trading for Charlotte's #22.

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The Charlotte Hornets have a problem. They need cap space to sign all their free agents ...or at least be in the mix.  So, points out Adrian Wojnarowski, they are willing to do a salary dump, parting with the 22nd pick in the process.

And both Tim Bontemps and Rick Bonnell of the Charlotte Observer thinks one way to do it might involve trading for Jarrett Jack's barely protected contract. Jack of course is recovering from multiple knee injuries and turns 33 in October.

The Nets would have to take on other contracts in the process.

    Sources: Charlotte's offering No. 22 - if team will take contract of Spencer Hawes or Jeremy Lamb. Hornets need space to re-sign free agents
    — Adrian Wojnarowski (@WojVerticalNBA) June 23, 2016

Why not the Nets, asks Bontemps.

    If Charlotte is willing to move the 22nd pick for someone to take on Spencer Hawes or Jeremy Lamb, the Nets have Jarrett Jack. Logical move.
    — Tim Bontemps (@TimBontemps) June 23, 2016

Makes sense, adds Bonnell.

    My buddy @TimBontemps points out that Jarrett Jack's contract is guaranteed for only $500K. Nets possible taker for 22nd pick?
    — Rick Bonnell (@rick_bonnell) June 23, 2016

Indeed, Jack's contract is now $6.3 million, but only $500,000 of it is guaranteed (and if you want, you can stretch that!)  No word yet from the Nets camp, at least according to the Twitterverse.  Of course the night is young.
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: chambers on June 25, 2016, 01:46:59 PM
So are they officially the worst team in the NBA after trading Thad?

Waive Jack, waive Robinson...
My god they'll be awful.
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: BitterJim on June 25, 2016, 01:50:06 PM
I hope they sign Rondo, it would make watching their games at least entertaining

The team will be bad, but Rondo could add the needed bit of flair and hot-headedness
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: SHAQATTACK on June 25, 2016, 01:55:46 PM
Here we go again

I hope they sign Sully

And give him FREE Ice Cream at Ben and Jerrys  ;D
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: hwangjini_1 on June 25, 2016, 01:56:04 PM
So Thad Young has netted the #20 pick. A positive move for Brooklyn but certainly not going to make them better short term so it looks like a win for us!

My only concern is they might be looking to create cap space to make a splash in FA. They aren't an attractive proposition but still...
Perhaps, but do you think they can get someone as good as young and for less money?
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: mef730 on June 25, 2016, 02:17:33 PM
Over/under on 16 Brooklyn wins next season?

I'm guessing over, but only because I think they'll sign a few middling free agents, just enough to push them past the dregs of the league.

Who are the dregs this year, anyway? I suppose Philly has one more year at the bottom. NO needs Davis to stay healthy.

Mike
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: dreamgreen on June 25, 2016, 02:30:10 PM
I bet they go after Turner.
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: mef730 on June 28, 2016, 01:35:13 PM
I love this thread. It always gives me something to come back to when I get cranky about the team. I believe it was Julie Andrews who said it best:

When the draft bites
When free agency stings
When I'm feeling sad
I simply remember the Brooklyn draft picks
And then I don't feel so bad
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: GreenShooter on June 28, 2016, 02:14:32 PM
Brooklyn, Phoenix, Philly and possibly Orlando look like the pick of the litter box right now. Unless we get a top pick with a "franchise" player, this pick is getting traded, even if we have to "get hosed" a little bit. No more young guys needed and we still have their '18 pick. Yabusele and Zizic could be coming over to occupy some roster space by then, if they're also not traded.
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: SparzWizard on June 28, 2016, 02:21:16 PM
Harry Giles to the Celtics!!!  ;D ;D ;D 8)
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: CelticsFan166 on June 28, 2016, 02:24:06 PM
Harry Giles to the Celtics!!!  ;D ;D ;D 8)
Honestly, his 2 torn ACLs scare me. He's already lost some athleticism, I fear he will become another Derrick Rose regardless of talent
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: max215 on June 28, 2016, 02:25:21 PM
Harry Giles to the Celtics!!!  ;D ;D ;D 8)

It sounds like Jackson may be the real gem of this draft, and think about the potential of a defensive trio of Smart-Jackson-Jaylen at the 1-3  8)
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: celticsclay on June 28, 2016, 02:36:38 PM
Brooklyn, Phoenix, Philly and possibly Orlando look like the pick of the litter box right now. Unless we get a top pick with a "franchise" player, this pick is getting traded, even if we have to "get hosed" a little bit. No more young guys needed and we still have their '18 pick. Yabusele and Zizic could be coming over to occupy some roster space by then, if they're also not traded.

I think Orlando has too many average players to be truly awful. Vucevic is an average NBA starting center, Gordon should make the jump to being an average NBA player. Ibaka is obviously above average player. Hezenga should also be improving. It is not a glamorous roster, but certainly a step above historic bad.
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: jambr380 on June 28, 2016, 02:45:45 PM
I just want to get a post in this thread early. Last year's thread probably wins the MVP of threads.

As of right now, I don't see how the Nets aren't the worst team in the year next year.

PHX (new draft choices, players returning from injury), ORL (decent starting five, will probably commit to Fournier with Oladipo gone), Philly/Minny (fantastic young cores).

Teams like Denver, Sac, LAL could surprise in the 'suck' department, but all have superior rosters to the current Nets team.

I expect this to be a fun year...and let's hope Brown really shines!
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: makaveli on June 28, 2016, 03:03:58 PM
Over/under on 16 Brooklyn wins next season?

I'm guessing over, but only because I think they'll sign a few middling free agents, just enough to push them past the dregs of the league.

Who are the dregs this year, anyway? I suppose Philly has one more year at the bottom. NO needs Davis to stay healthy.

Mike
my bet is under, i mean they will most likely sign 3-4 Evan Turner level players who will pad their stats along with Lopez, but that can't and wont get them in many W columns
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: BitterJim on June 28, 2016, 03:27:32 PM
I just want to get a post in this thread early. Last year's thread probably wins the MVP of threads.

As of right now, I don't see how the Nets aren't the worst team in the year next year.

PHX (new draft choices, players returning from injury), ORL (decent starting five, will probably commit to Fournier with Oladipo gone), Philly/Minny (fantastic young cores).

Teams like Denver, Sac, LAL could surprise in the 'suck' department, but all have superior rosters to the current Nets team.

I expect this to be a fun year...and let's hope Brown really shines!

I think it all comes down to free agency.  If they can score some decent players, they could do better than a couple of teams that really tank it.  If they strike out, though, Marks will have to consider trading Lopez for a couple of picks (maybe one in 2017, to go with what will likely be our pick) and trying to set up a good foundation for the team.  They have no reason to tank, but if they look like the worst team in the league, they'll have to at least consider dealing Lopez
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: GratefulCs on June 28, 2016, 05:46:53 PM
Everything's coming up millhouse
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: greece66 on June 28, 2016, 11:26:01 PM
I love this thread. It always gives me something to come back to when I get cranky about the team. I believe it was Julie Andrews who said it best:

When the draft bites
When free agency stings
When I'm feeling sad
I simply remember the Brooklyn draft picks
And then I don't feel so bad

this song is gold  ;D ;D ;D

it's great to know you have an almost guaranteed lottery pick thx to Brooklyn. I mean, even if they sign a couple of decent FAs it's hard to imagine them making it to the playoffs. Having said this, I'll try not to jinx it but being over optimistic   :laugh:
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: trickybilly on June 28, 2016, 11:26:02 PM
Rajon still bleeding green...

http://nesn.com/2016/06/nba-free-agency-rumors-rajon-rondo-nets-have-mutual-interest/
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: Ogaju on June 28, 2016, 11:40:50 PM
looks like the Nets are just bent on not helping us out with their picks. Why are they trying so hard to be competitive?
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: trickybilly on June 29, 2016, 12:10:15 AM
looks like the Nets are just bent on not helping us out with their picks. Why are they trying so hard to be competitive?

Same reason everyone else is trying to be competitive this year... next years FA class.
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: TheSundanceKid on June 29, 2016, 07:08:19 AM
I peg the Nets to be in with a shout for Brandon Jennings this summer on a 1+1 deal. Similar to what happened when we signed Turner. Jennings will want to rebuild his value before the 2017 FA. Other destinations he could go are Memphis, Dallas and Sacramento.

They need to use some of the cap space they have, something like $40m. So expect them to use at least some of that this summer. Even when accounting for youth development they will need depth across the board. I expect them to sign one RFA to a longer term contract. Someone like Sullinger or Dwight Powell or Jordan Clarkson. Someone that might not get matched.

Ultimately I don't expect them to have gained ground over their rivals and I'm guessing a bottom 3 record again this year. Possible contenders are Sacramento in the event of a Boogie trade, Memphis and possibly one other Eastern team depending on how the season goes. I expect Minnesota and Phoenix to keep improving and NO to get Davis healthy
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: Adelaide Celt on July 02, 2016, 02:50:45 PM
Now the Nets have the one and only Justin Hamilton. The hotspot continues to thrive.

http://www.espn.com.au/nba/story/_/id/16686773/justin-hamilton-agrees-2-year-deal-brooklyn-nets
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: SCeltic34 on July 02, 2016, 09:26:33 PM
FA additions so far for the Nets: Lin and Justin Hamilton.

And now they have reached terms with Trevor Booker on a 2-year deal, $18.5 million.  Probably their backup option after missing out on Batum and Bazemore.

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    Confirmed that #Nets have agreement with Trevor Booker as @Tjonessltrib reported earlier.
    — Mike Mazzeo (@MazzESPN) July 2, 2016

According to various sources, Booker will earn $18.5 million over two years, about the same contract they offered Jared Dudley who reportedly turned them down Friday.

Booker, at 6'8" and 228 pounds, is a high energy rebounder and defender at the 4, where the Nets have limited roster resources since trading Thaddeus Young on Draft Night. Booker averaged 5.9 points and 5.7 rebounds this past season in 21 minutes per game. He shot 29.3 percent from deep. Over the past three years, the 28-year-old out of Clemson has missed only 14 games.

Their roster still looks craptastic to me.

Further, the addition of Horford for us basically ensures a mid-high 20's 1st rounder after we swap our pick with them.
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: trickybilly on July 04, 2016, 04:27:00 AM
Just want to write down that it is my prediction that we will have the 5th pick in the 2017 NBA draft.
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: j804 on July 04, 2016, 04:30:38 AM
Haha here we go again here's to a crappy Nets record and at least top 10 pick hopefully
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: trickybilly on July 04, 2016, 09:15:11 AM
This is 6"2 PG Dennis Smith, projected to be the 3rd pick of the draft next year. Perfect to draft him, let him learn during IT's last year and if we can't afford the max for IT, blamo, you have a nice replacement in his sophomore year... committed to NC State.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RguQ7KyRxmI

Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: Emmette Bryant on July 06, 2016, 11:26:12 AM
I'm gonna get my wife a pair of these:

http://store.nba.com/Brooklyn_Nets_Gear/Brooklyn_Nets_Womens_St._Paddys_Day_Super_Tube_Socks_-_Kelly_Green
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: BudweiserCeltic on July 06, 2016, 10:51:43 PM
In other news, with Wade going to the Bulls, Brooklyn pretty much loses their bid on Tyler Johnson.
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: jambr380 on July 06, 2016, 11:04:44 PM
In other news, with Wade going to the Bulls, Brooklyn pretty much loses their bid on Tyler Johnson.

I personally like how they were in the lead to absorb Calderon, but Chicago chose LAL instead. Granted, I don't think Calderon has much to offer, but it's almost like the rest of the league is enjoying the disaster that is happening in BKN. Instead of Calderon, they will likely spend more money on a worse player for a longer contract.

Geez, and not even Tyler Johnson.
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: saltlover on July 06, 2016, 11:13:32 PM
In other news, with Wade going to the Bulls, Brooklyn pretty much loses their bid on Tyler Johnson.

I was thinking that.  The Nets lost out doubly on Wade going to Chicago.  No salary dump and no Tyler Johnson.

I know people are concerned Miami will tank for a year, and they may, but they're still way ahead of the Nets.
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: SCeltic34 on July 06, 2016, 11:29:50 PM
In other news, with Wade going to the Bulls, Brooklyn pretty much loses their bid on Tyler Johnson.

I was thinking that.  The Nets lost out doubly on Wade going to Chicago.  No salary dump and no Tyler Johnson.

I know people are concerned Miami will tank for a year, and they may, but they're still way ahead of the Nets.

The Nets are also eyeing Allen Crabbe, but Woj speculates that the Blazers will match most offers.

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Said Wojnarowski: "By all indications they want to keep him. They developed Allen Crabbe. He's become a very good bench player. Will he be a starter? That remains to be seen... I would be very surprised if one way or another if Allen Crabbe is not back with the Trail Blazers and not playing for them next season."

The Nets have also rescinded the QO to Markel Brown.
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: BudweiserCeltic on July 06, 2016, 11:54:15 PM
What's funny though, is that with these marginal improvements from the Lakers, they're pretty much guaranteeing that they will lose their 2017 draft pick, instead of their 2018 one. If I was a betting man, their 2017 draft pick is going to be quite better than their 2018 one.
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: max215 on July 07, 2016, 12:01:06 AM
The Wade news is excellent for the pick. You'd have to imagine the Heat retain Johnson now.
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: trickybilly on July 07, 2016, 12:14:33 AM
I'm gonna get my wife a pair of these:

http://store.nba.com/Brooklyn_Nets_Gear/Brooklyn_Nets_Womens_St._Paddys_Day_Super_Tube_Socks_-_Kelly_Green

Ordered.
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: TheSundanceKid on July 07, 2016, 10:05:49 AM
The Wade news is excellent for the pick. You'd have to imagine the Heat retain Johnson now.

That could mean they go more stronger for other RFA like Sully. There are still some serviceable players out there for them to improve with. Although I'm pretty hapy with how the summer has gone so far
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: BitterJim on July 07, 2016, 10:13:38 AM
What's funny though, is that with these marginal improvements from the Lakers, they're pretty much guaranteeing that they will lose their 2017 draft pick, instead of their 2018 one. If I was a betting man, their 2017 draft pick is going to be quite better than their 2018 one.

It would have been hard for them to guarantee that they didn't lose their 201 pick, though.  It makes sense for them to try and win games now, and only give Philly a late lottery pick

And, heck, it's the Lakers, they might just get the #1 pick anyway
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: Denis998 on July 07, 2016, 10:22:13 AM
Is there any other team remotely as bad as Brooklyn. I'm trying to figure out what the competition is. Philly got better, Lakers got better, Suns got better and healthy, twolves are a year older, NO is healthy, nuggets got better. The only teams that seemingly got worse are Miami and Dallas
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: CelticsFanFromNYC on July 07, 2016, 10:35:16 AM
Is there any other team remotely as bad as Brooklyn. I'm trying to figure out what the competition is. Philly got better, Lakers got better, Suns got better and healthy, twolves are a year older, NO is healthy, nuggets got better. The only teams that seemingly got worse are Miami and Dallas

Only realistic drop I see is Mavs accepting failure and giving Dirk a farewell tour
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: Smokeeye123 on July 07, 2016, 10:41:31 AM
Is there any other team remotely as bad as Brooklyn. I'm trying to figure out what the competition is. Philly got better, Lakers got better, Suns got better and healthy, twolves are a year older, NO is healthy, nuggets got better. The only teams that seemingly got worse are Miami and Dallas

Dallas and Miami are too good to be worse than Brooklyn.

The Suns and 76ers could easily be worse than Brooklyn though. Especially the suns. I think this is the year that the 76ers actually try and start to build something.
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: Evantime34 on July 07, 2016, 10:44:53 AM
Is there any other team remotely as bad as Brooklyn. I'm trying to figure out what the competition is. Philly got better, Lakers got better, Suns got better and healthy, twolves are a year older, NO is healthy, nuggets got better. The only teams that seemingly got worse are Miami and Dallas
I still think Philly and the Lakers are going to be really bad. Even though they got better, I still do not think they are better than the Nets.

Miami might have gotten worse, but I don't see Bogut and Barnes being a downgrade from an injured Parsons and Zaza for the Mavs.

I think there will be a team that ends up in the bottom five due to injury that we don't expect.

It's crazy that not one team seems to be tanking this year.
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: Denis998 on July 07, 2016, 10:52:47 AM
Is there any other team remotely as bad as Brooklyn. I'm trying to figure out what the competition is. Philly got better, Lakers got better, Suns got better and healthy, twolves are a year older, NO is healthy, nuggets got better. The only teams that seemingly got worse are Miami and Dallas

Dallas and Miami are too good to be worse than Brooklyn.

The Suns and 76ers could easily be worse than Brooklyn though. Especially the suns. I think this is the year that the 76ers actually try and start to build something.
So far philly roster looks like this:
Bayless
Henderson
Simmons
Noel
Okafor
That team is not too shabby. Way better than Brooklyn, just a question of team chemistry.
The Suns also have a respectable young team now;
Bledsoe
Knight
Booker
Chris
Bender

Both of these teams can possibly be in the 10th pick range.
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: slamtheking on July 07, 2016, 10:53:39 AM
Is there any other team remotely as bad as Brooklyn. I'm trying to figure out what the competition is. Philly got better, Lakers got better, Suns got better and healthy, twolves are a year older, NO is healthy, nuggets got better. The only teams that seemingly got worse are Miami and Dallas
I still think Philly and the Lakers are going to be really bad. Even though they got better, I still do not think they are better than the Nets.

Miami might have gotten worse, but I don't see Bogut and Barnes being a downgrade from an injured Parsons and Zaza for the Mavs.

I think there will be a team that ends up in the bottom five due to injury that we don't expect.

It's crazy that not one team seems to be tanking this year.
agreed on the initial overview on tanking -- not even Philly seems to be at it this year.

I predicted a top 5 pick coming from Brooklyn last summer and did even better getting the #3. 

This year I'm going on the record predicting a top 3 pick that we'll be getting from Brooklyn while sending them something between 22-24.   Granted free agency is still going on and trades can still happen prior to the start of the season but at this point I don't see anyone whose roster is as bad as the the Nets have.   

Something I haven't seen mentioned in any other thread is the impact Durant going to GSW will have on the Nets.  Prior to that move, I could envision the Nets moving Brook Lopez to a team looking for a center to put them over the top-->the type of deal that gets them a couple of picks and a young prospect or two to help in their rebuild for the following year.  Now with Durant in GSW, I think it's less likely that there will be teams looking at Lopez as the missing piece to get them to the title since GSW is looking like the presumptive winner of the championship now.  just speculation on my part but I think that move hurt the chances of the Nets moving Lopez and thereby ensuring their (our) pick goes into the lottery at #1.
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: GreenShooter on July 07, 2016, 11:05:41 AM
GSW has pretty much locked up the NBA title (but stranger things have happened, injuries, etc.) but teams are still in it to win in the playoffs, which equals plenty of revenue. I would love that since the networks dished out all of this money to NBA and GSW now has the monopoly on boardwalk and park place, it would be awesome if no one watched the games and the ratings plummeted. I mean what's the point unless you're a bball junkie. Maybe they'll encourage betting on NBA games. It works for the NFL.

Edit: Regarding the Nets, LOL , what a roster. Top 4 pick guaranteed, and this is after they lose the most games but have a chance to fall to number 4 in the lottery. That is all.
And yes, I do wonder if DA traded for Jimmy Butler, would that have changed KD's mind. I personally don't think so.
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: Ed Hollison on July 08, 2016, 07:14:30 AM
Nets signed Allen Crabbe from Portland to a 4 year, $75 million offer sheet. I know nothing about Allen Crabbe and I'm curious to hear what people think about this.
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: ashanm10 on July 08, 2016, 07:19:00 AM
Nets signed Allen Crabbe from Portland to a 4 year, $75 million offer sheet. I know nothing about Allen Crabbe and I'm curious to hear what people think about this.

he is a good player...weird how no one else wanted picked him up..
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: moiso on July 08, 2016, 07:28:34 AM
Nets signed Allen Crabbe from Portland to a 4 year, $75 million offer sheet. I know nothing about Allen Crabbe and I'm curious to hear what people think about this.
Good shooter and average to below average at everything else.
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: A Future of Stevens on July 08, 2016, 07:34:44 AM
Any word if the blazers will match? I know they love the kid, and this isn't crazy for his production. He would atleast help the nets to a few wins.
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: Jiri Welsch on July 08, 2016, 10:12:24 AM
Any chance both Tyler Johnson and Allen Crabbe end up on the Nets? That would be great to see $145 million wrapped up between those two guys.
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: JBcat on July 08, 2016, 10:17:41 AM
Any chance both Tyler Johnson and Allen Crabbe end up on the Nets? That would be great to see $145 million wrapped up between those two guys.

I hope so.  Lol guaranteed lottery picks next 2 years if they continue tying up money like this.
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: JumpingJudkins on July 08, 2016, 10:47:19 AM
Any word if the blazers will match? I know they love the kid, and this isn't crazy for his production. He would atleast help the nets to a few wins.

That's not crazy money for 10 ppg of production, with little contribution other than 3-point shooting?
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: KGs Knee on July 08, 2016, 10:48:54 AM
Any chance both Tyler Johnson and Allen Crabbe end up on the Nets? That would be great to see $145 million wrapped up between those two guys.

I suspect with Wade leaving Miami they will match on TJ.  Have no idea how Portland feels about Crabbe.

I hope Miami does match on TJ, he's a good, young, up and coming player.
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: saltlover on July 08, 2016, 10:49:05 AM
Any chance both Tyler Johnson and Allen Crabbe end up on the Nets? That would be great to see $145 million wrapped up between those two guys.

I hope so.  Lol guaranteed lottery picks next 2 years if they continue tying up money like this.

I'd much rather they don't get them, because their alternatives will be to either not spend money at all this year, or spend it on even worse players.
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: A Future of Stevens on July 08, 2016, 10:57:50 AM
Any chance both Tyler Johnson and Allen Crabbe end up on the Nets? That would be great to see $145 million wrapped up between those two guys.

I hope so.  Lol guaranteed lottery picks next 2 years if they continue tying up money like this.

I'd much rather they don't get them, because their alternatives will be to either not spend money at all this year, or spend it on even worse players.

This guy gets it lol. Any its not like their contracts would be horrendous. They would just represent a few more wins. If they can be robbed of even that, then watch out. Nobody is left, so lets hope they get matched.
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: Moranis on July 08, 2016, 11:01:23 AM
Tyler Johnson is a poison pill contract.  I'm not sure Miami will pick that up, would really crush them in year 3 and 4 of the contract. 

I still think the Nets will be a 30-35 win team. 
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: Kane3387 on July 08, 2016, 11:02:34 AM
Nets signed Allen Crabbe from Portland to a 4 year, $75 million offer sheet. I know nothing about Allen Crabbe and I'm curious to hear what people think about this.

he is a good player...weird how no one else wanted picked him up..

Teams did for sure. Just not at that price. He won't be playing off Lillard and McCollum either.
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: mef730 on July 08, 2016, 01:14:08 PM
Any chance both Tyler Johnson and Allen Crabbe end up on the Nets? That would be great to see $145 million wrapped up between those two guys.

I hope so.  Lol guaranteed lottery picks next 2 years if they continue tying up money like this.

I'd much rather they don't get them, because their alternatives will be to either not spend money at all this year, or spend it on even worse players.

That's my feeling. Worst case scenario for them (and best case for us) is that they can't sign anyone who can contribute anything and end up grossing the rest of the team to the minimum.

I'm not concerned about the Nets making the playoffs, but I am concerned that they pick up just enough middling players not to finish with the worst record in the NBA.

Mike
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: jpotter33 on July 10, 2016, 05:23:37 PM
Really good news today for the Nets pick swap next year:

Blazers match Crabbe's offer sheet from Nets

https://twitter.com/WojVerticalNBA/status/752248250896297984?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

Nets lose Ellington to Heat

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/242789/Wayne-Ellington-Heat-Agree-Upon-Two-Year-$12M-Deal

Looks like Miami WILL match Johnson's offer sheet from Nets

https://twitter.com/ESPNSteinLine/status/752216084229480448?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw


So, a Brooklyn team that was not a very good shooting team just lost a TON of shooting in Crabbe and Ellington, and it looks like they're not going to get Johnson, too. Can't ask for much better than that.
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: csfansince60s on July 10, 2016, 05:25:18 PM
Sully may be next on the list.
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: jpotter33 on July 10, 2016, 05:28:08 PM
Sully may be next on the list.

Yeah, that's what I figured, too. He could actually come in and fill some of the void of Young, though spacing and a lack of athleticism will surely hurt that frontcourt. Teams will just go small against them, and they won't be able to play both Lopez and Sully.
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: Quetzalcoatl on July 10, 2016, 05:32:02 PM
It seems scary in the abstract for Sullinger to go there (in that they might win a few extra games), but really, he couldn't motivate himself in a contract year on a playoff team with a great coaching staff.  What do you think he is going to do on the Nets?
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: BringToughnessBack on July 10, 2016, 05:34:05 PM
Sully and the amazing NYC food like pizza and street dogs  should do wonders for his waistline! I could definitely see the Nets taking a chance on him. I just hope they dont sign him and put him under strict food surveilance and than he starts putting up 20-10 nights regularly. He is talented but frustrating. I dont wish him ill will for any team but the Nets.
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: Ogaju on July 10, 2016, 05:37:26 PM
The Nets are trying their best to improve because we did not thank them for #3 this year.  If we did not thank them for such a beautiful gift why would they tank for us next season.
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: DefenseWinsChamps on July 10, 2016, 05:47:27 PM
Gerald Green, Ray McCallum, JR Smith, Gary Neal, Beno Udrih, Dorell Wright, PJ Hairston, Rasuel Butler, James Anderson, Chase Budinger, Alonzo Gee, Mo Harkless, Terrance Jones, and Jared Sullinger all seem like possibilities.

Many of those guys have attitude problems, which would not fit Marks' new direction. Other guys are not good or are too injury prone. The only guys I'm worried about are the last three.

The Blazers probably can't keep Harkless with the big contract given to Crabbe, but their floor spacing would be terrible with him, RHJ, and Lopez.

Jones and Sullinger seem like good fits for their cap space, especially on a 1+1 deal. But I think both guys in that system would be about getting their own numbers to prove themselves for next off-season, not for the team.

Their cupboard is looking bare. Unless RHJ can get rid of the hitch in his jumpshot, or a recent prospect from Syracuse magically becomes a good NBA player, or Jeremy Lin learns to drive with his left hand and distribute, or Booker makes a Milsap-esque jump, or Lopez becomes the most dominate big in the NBA, or Lavert turns in Wade, or ...

Man I hope everything breaks perfectly for us again.
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: LarBrd33 on July 10, 2016, 06:12:53 PM
Have the Heat matched Tyler Johnson's offer yet?
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: DefenseWinsChamps on July 10, 2016, 06:16:28 PM
Have the Heat matched Tyler Johnson's offer yet?

The talk today was that they were going to, but they have until midnight to officially do it.
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: max215 on July 10, 2016, 06:31:14 PM
Losing out on Crabbe is a big blow. If they lose Johnson also, I'm feeling really good about this pick being top 3 again.
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: ashanm10 on July 10, 2016, 06:52:21 PM
lets hope they lose johnson too and that lopez gets sidelined all year and anyone on their team XD JUST ROT ALREADY AND GIVE US THE NUMBER 1 PICK FOR THE NEXT TWO YEARS!!! MUAHAHAHAHAH :)

Love you Brooklyn ;p <3
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: max215 on July 10, 2016, 07:00:04 PM
The Heat matched as well, outstanding news.
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: jpotter33 on July 10, 2016, 07:02:01 PM
The Heat matched as well, outstanding news.

Yep. I simply just cannot see this being any better than a bottom-three team with both Philly and LA improving significantly (from where they were at, that is).
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: Vox_Populi on July 10, 2016, 07:27:27 PM
So, Josh Jackson or Harry Giles?
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: CelticSooner on July 10, 2016, 07:29:37 PM
What a wonderful day  ;D
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: BringToughnessBack on July 10, 2016, 07:34:37 PM
With Lopez healthy they are a bottom 5 team. If the injury bug returns to him, I envy the team that has that 2017 pick! :)
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: fubar089 on July 10, 2016, 07:50:08 PM
What a wonderful day  ;D
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: Ogaju on July 10, 2016, 07:54:20 PM
Does this mean we are not trading the 17 swap, or the 2018 Bkn pick?
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: Neurotic Guy on July 10, 2016, 08:22:19 PM
Does this mean we are not trading the 17 swap, or the 2018 Bkn pick?

The other way to view this is that Brooklyn's 2017 pick might look to some teams as a top 5 lock.  Perhaps, if a team like Sacramento believes the Nets are going to be terrible, they may feel it is in their best interest to tank 2016-17 by 1st honoring Rudy Gay's trade request and then unloading DeMarcus Cousins to the C's for a package starting with the 2017 swap. 

Sac begins their new rebuild with 2 top 5 picks (own and Nets) in 2017, WCS and Scal -- and whoever else they can get from DA (Smart? Brown? Crowder? Rozier? 2018?).   
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: SCeltic34 on July 10, 2016, 08:23:00 PM
Does this mean we are not trading the 17 swap, or the 2018 Bkn pick?

With the way this offseason has turned out so far for the Nets, and the cost-controlled contracts of 1st rounders with the exploding salary cap (can/will this be renegotiated?), our 2017 swap and 2018 picks are incredibly valuable.  I doubt Ainge surrenders them in a trade without getting a high-caliber star in return.
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: Smokeeye123 on July 10, 2016, 08:34:27 PM
The Heat matched as well, outstanding news.

Yep. I simply just cannot see this being any better than a bottom-three team with both Philly and LA improving significantly (from where they were at, that is).

I still think the Suns will be puke this year but you seem to be right.
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: BudweiserCeltic on July 10, 2016, 09:47:16 PM
Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojVerticalNBA
Free agent guard Greivis Vasquez has agreed to a one-year deal with Brooklyn, league sources tell @TheVertical.
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: hpantazo on July 10, 2016, 09:52:19 PM
Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojVerticalNBA
Free agent guard Greivis Vasquez has agreed to a one-year deal with Brooklyn, league sources tell @TheVertical.


I guess this was something like plan F for the Nets.

I think I just hit the fantasy basketball jackpot with Greivis. He puts up great stats when given serious PT on crappy teams!
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: slightly biased bias fan on July 11, 2016, 02:10:18 AM
Blazers resigns Crabbe and Heat matches Tyler Johnson offer sheet

(http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/5c/5c514680b497feb52be18568efa9386bca4fbc3c96f40a54641410a16edf63d7.jpg)
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: alldaboston on July 11, 2016, 02:26:38 AM
Can someone make me feel a little better?

What good is a watch thread if all that's gonna end up happening is Danny picking another player who can't shoot and isn't gonna be productive for us, but who will play defense, ignite the wet dreams of sports journalists, and make guys like Tommy fall in love with them for their "hustle, grit, heart"? If Danny isn't ever gonna find any talent, what good is the watch thread?

We've had 2 top 6 picks in the last 3 drafts, and they both look like they will end up as role players at best (though I admit to jumping the gun a bit based on Jaylen's summer league thus far). I don't wanna draft 2 more role players with these picks. These picks are our best assets. They're the only thing that keeps me happy about this team's future, quite frankly. We aren't winning anything any time soon, and once the Warriors and Cavaliers fall off, teams like the Blazers, Sixers, Wolves, and Lakers will have their young talent in their prime, ready to dominate. Meanwhile, we will have Isaiah and Al on the wrong side of 30, and guys like Avery and Jae not far behind.

Without these picks, the future is rather bleak. We're kinda stuck between elite and decent, and unless Danny miraculously hits on these next 2 picks, it's looking like we will be stuck in this state for the foreseeable future.

I've been what some here would call a "Danny Apologist" for quite some time, but his drafting really has me p---ed. I can't support him like I used to.

I'm just hoping the many hours we spend on this thread don't go to waste for a role player who can't score but plays defense.

Sorry for the overreactions to summer league thus far. I just had to get this out there.
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: mahcus smaht on July 11, 2016, 02:49:38 AM
Can someone make me feel a little better?

What good is a watch thread if all that's gonna end up happening is Danny picking another player who can't shoot and isn't gonna be productive for us, but who will play defense, ignite the wet dreams of sports journalists, and make guys like Tommy fall in love with them for their "hustle, grit, heart"? If Danny isn't ever gonna find any talent, what good is the watch thread?

We've had 2 top 6 picks in the last 3 drafts, and they both look like they will end up as role players at best (though I admit to jumping the gun a bit based on Jaylen's summer league thus far). I don't wanna draft 2 more role players with these picks. These picks are our best assets. They're the only thing that keeps me happy about this team's future, quite frankly. We aren't winning anything any time soon, and once the Warriors and Cavaliers fall off, teams like the Blazers, Sixers, Wolves, and Lakers will have their young talent in their prime, ready to dominate. Meanwhile, we will have Isaiah and Al on the wrong side of 30, and guys like Avery and Jae not far behind.

Without these picks, the future is rather bleak. We're kinda stuck between elite and decent, and unless Danny miraculously hits on these next 2 picks, it's looking like we will be stuck in this state for the foreseeable future.

I've been what some here would call a "Danny Apologist" for quite some time, but his drafting really has me p---ed. I can't support him like I used to.

I'm just hoping the many hours we spend on this thread don't go to waste for a role player who can't score but plays defense.

Sorry for the overreactions to summer league thus far. I just had to get this out there.
1st off yes you are completely jumping the gun on Jaylen Brown. This draft was a 2 player draft with a big dropoff. Physical limitation project Hield and Murray as role players and Bender and Chriss look a long way from stardom. The other choice would have been Dunn and I would have preferred him but he's older and has a concerning injury history. He's no slam dunk star either. If he was then he would have gone 2nd.

Next year's draft is deeper in terms of star potential so Ainge is likely to land a guy with Ingram type ceiling even if the pick drops to 5 or 6.

Marcus Smarts offense has been disappointing but the other obvious picks there were Vonleh and Randle. Neither are stars.

Don't judge Brown yet. He's got the work ethic and athleticism to make huge improvements to his game.

If there's one thing to be excited about its got to be the Nets '17 swap. Experts are projecting it to be super deep with star potential.

Stars are tough to come by. That's key to realize. The beauty of the Nets picks is that we might get a couple stabs at the top 5 while still building a contender. Remember he only needs to hit on one pick and we are golden.
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: Rondo9 on July 11, 2016, 02:54:58 AM
This overreaction to Brown's summer league games is hilarious.
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: libermaniac on July 11, 2016, 02:55:10 AM
Can someone make me feel a little better?

What good is a watch thread if all that's gonna end up happening is Danny picking another player who can't shoot and isn't gonna be productive for us, but who will play defense, ignite the wet dreams of sports journalists, and make guys like Tommy fall in love with them for their "hustle, grit, heart"? If Danny isn't ever gonna find any talent, what good is the watch thread?

You can bet that Danny would've taken Ingram if the C's had the 2nd pick.  So, this thread is for rooting for the C's to land in the part of the draft that takes any guesswork out of the equation for Danny.  That should make you feel better about this thread, at least.

I haven't written off Jaylen Brown by any stretch.  He seems to be a decent spot up shooter.  His stroke, for instance, looks light years better than Marcus Smart.  Jaylen is just having a very hard time finishing.  But, he looks like he can get his shot off at will and get into the lane.  I think he's something like 5-26 in his three games from the field, but he's probably missed 12 shots in the lane running towards the basket.  1) That's hard to do 2) That isn't really 'shooting' in my book, but rather finishing.  As other posters have mentioned, he seems to have fumblitis, but if/when he starts putting those balls in the bucket, he still has star potential in my book.  I'm not happy about his performance but his potential is undeniable. 

Serious question.  Can someone point out a player who was able to blow by his defenders regularly but was just such a bad finisher that he was a bust?  I can't think of any. 

My guess is Jaylen is pressing a bit and overthinking things and he'll settle down and start to impress us before too long.
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: TheSundanceKid on July 11, 2016, 04:07:14 AM
Can someone make me feel a little better?

What good is a watch thread if all that's gonna end up happening is Danny picking another player who can't shoot and isn't gonna be productive for us, but who will play defense, ignite the wet dreams of sports journalists, and make guys like Tommy fall in love with them for their "hustle, grit, heart"? If Danny isn't ever gonna find any talent, what good is the watch thread?

We've had 2 top 6 picks in the last 3 drafts, and they both look like they will end up as role players at best (though I admit to jumping the gun a bit based on Jaylen's summer league thus far). I don't wanna draft 2 more role players with these picks. These picks are our best assets. They're the only thing that keeps me happy about this team's future, quite frankly. We aren't winning anything any time soon, and once the Warriors and Cavaliers fall off, teams like the Blazers, Sixers, Wolves, and Lakers will have their young talent in their prime, ready to dominate. Meanwhile, we will have Isaiah and Al on the wrong side of 30, and guys like Avery and Jae not far behind.

Without these picks, the future is rather bleak. We're kinda stuck between elite and decent, and unless Danny miraculously hits on these next 2 picks, it's looking like we will be stuck in this state for the foreseeable future.

I've been what some here would call a "Danny Apologist" for quite some time, but his drafting really has me p---ed. I can't support him like I used to.

I'm just hoping the many hours we spend on this thread don't go to waste for a role player who can't score but plays defense.

Sorry for the overreactions to summer league thus far. I just had to get this out there.
Pump the brakes, don't worry. Every year there is an overreaction to summer league. It isn't like the NBA at all, the level and prep is so much lower. It is primed for individual play and not team play. Hence how Simmons can look LeBron like so far. It's not representative of who they will really be.

Secondly you seem to also be down on Marcus too? I've never understood that. If anything he's improved more than some of those drafted ahead of him. This year is a big year for him, look for him to step up his responsibility in the wake of Turner's departure.

Who knows where Brown ends up but don't lose faith just because we haven't had the opportunity to select a slam dunk prospect. Aside from Towns, you have to go back to Davis to find one. The way we are building has a far more solid ground beneath us. Players will appreciate that. I believe reputation matters and everything Ainge is doing is building that.
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: CelticsFanFromNYC on July 11, 2016, 08:08:25 PM
Nets current standpoint makes me feel this pick can turn Golden. If Sac decides to tank as Gay wants out, Id give um something built around  2017 n 2018 picks n Smart for those two
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: CelticSooner on July 11, 2016, 11:42:45 PM
You guys think Brooklyn will offer Waiters? Anyone willing to put on offer sheet on him for that matter? lol
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: fantankerous on July 11, 2016, 11:53:04 PM
You guys think Brooklyn will offer Waiters? Anyone willing to put on offer sheet on him for that matter? lol

BKN should sign him to an offer sheet.  If for no other reason than to curry favor with agents.
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: Future Celtics Owner on July 11, 2016, 11:55:20 PM
You guys think Brooklyn will offer Waiters? Anyone willing to put on offer sheet on him for that matter? lol
OKC have Oladipo and the other guy at sg now....so offering or matching for Waiters for big money does not make sense....

I think they did well as far as drafting Caris Lavert....they did draft him 20th but he is a legit player and his play speaks for itself.....just needs to get healthy.

Okafor was there on the table for the 3rd pick.....wish we traded down with the Wolves for Lavine and the #5 for Dunn and then traded the #5 for Okafor. At least Lavine and Okafor we know can play and have upside still/youth.

DRafting Jaylen with the #3 when there are: Stanley Johnson, Winslow, and even Jabari and others makes me scratch my head a bit.

I think people are angry at the value added based on the value of the picks.....they just did not equal eachother and DA could have done a much better job. Jaylen and Yab are good players and no ones angry at those players or that we selected them, IMO people see that we could have traded down and selected those players while also getting more assets and VALUE

Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: DefenseWinsChamps on July 12, 2016, 12:02:17 AM
You guys think Brooklyn will offer Waiters? Anyone willing to put on offer sheet on him for that matter? lol

It would be excellent to see Waiters eat up 15-20 million of Brooklyn's cap space each year, while eating himself into the forward position and averaging 38% from the floor.
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: saltlover on July 12, 2016, 12:16:07 AM
You guys think Brooklyn will offer Waiters? Anyone willing to put on offer sheet on him for that matter? lol

It would be excellent to see Waiters eat up 15-20 million of Brooklyn's cap space each year, while eating himself into the forward position and averaging 38% from the floor.

I think Brookyln should keep throwing money at restricted free agents.  Either a) they finally get to keep one, or b) they suck up a lot of teams' cap room for next summer.  Tyler Zeller is waiting by the phone!

Someone should sign Moe Harkless.  Blazers have to be out of money, since they need to keep something for McCollum.  Heck, they're encroaching on luxury tax territory at this point.
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: Ilikesports17 on July 12, 2016, 12:56:38 AM
You guys think Brooklyn will offer Waiters? Anyone willing to put on offer sheet on him for that matter? lol
OKC have Oladipo and the other guy at sg now....so offering or matching for Waiters for big money does not make sense....

I think they did well as far as drafting Caris Lavert....they did draft him 20th but he is a legit player and his play speaks for itself.....just needs to get healthy.

Okafor was there on the table for the 3rd pick.....wish we traded down with the Wolves for Lavine and the #5 for Dunn and then traded the #5 for Okafor. At least Lavine and Okafor we know can play and have upside still/youth.

DRafting Jaylen with the #3 when there are: Stanley Johnson, Winslow, and even Jabari and others makes me scratch my head a bit.

I think people are angry at the value added based on the value of the picks.....they just did not equal eachother and DA could have done a much better job. Jaylen and Yab are good players and no ones angry at those players or that we selected them, IMO people see that we could have traded down and selected those players while also getting more assets and VALUE
what are you getting at with this bit?
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: ReadyFor17 on July 12, 2016, 02:52:01 PM
You guys think Brooklyn will offer Waiters? Anyone willing to put on offer sheet on him for that matter? lol
OKC have Oladipo and the other guy at sg now....so offering or matching for Waiters for big money does not make sense....

I think they did well as far as drafting Caris Lavert....they did draft him 20th but he is a legit player and his play speaks for itself.....just needs to get healthy.

Okafor was there on the table for the 3rd pick.....wish we traded down with the Wolves for Lavine and the #5 for Dunn and then traded the #5 for Okafor. At least Lavine and Okafor we know can play and have upside still/youth.

DRafting Jaylen with the #3 when there are: Stanley Johnson, Winslow, and even Jabari and others makes me scratch my head a bit.

I think people are angry at the value added based on the value of the picks.....they just did not equal eachother and DA could have done a much better job. Jaylen and Yab are good players and no ones angry at those players or that we selected them, IMO people see that we could have traded down and selected those players while also getting more assets and VALUE

So instead of drafting Dunn at 5 the Wolves were going to trade the #5 and Lavine for the #3 pick to...draft Dunn?
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: trickybilly on July 13, 2016, 02:32:24 AM
Nets pull of a huge coup, getting Luis Scola on a 1-year deal.

http://www.thescore.com/nba/news/1058577-report-nets-scola-agree-to-1-year-deal

DO NOT TRADE THAT '17 pick under any circumstances. No Blake, No Boogie, No Kareem, Noone.
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: Sixth Man on July 13, 2016, 04:03:16 AM
You guys think Brooklyn will offer Waiters? Anyone willing to put on offer sheet on him for that matter? lol
OKC have Oladipo and the other guy at sg now....so offering or matching for Waiters for big money does not make sense....

I think they did well as far as drafting Caris Lavert....they did draft him 20th but he is a legit player and his play speaks for itself.....just needs to get healthy.

Okafor was there on the table for the 3rd pick.....wish we traded down with the Wolves for Lavine and the #5 for Dunn and then traded the #5 for Okafor. At least Lavine and Okafor we know can play and have upside still/youth.

DRafting Jaylen with the #3 when there are: Stanley Johnson, Winslow, and even Jabari and others makes me scratch my head a bit.

I think people are angry at the value added based on the value of the picks.....they just did not equal eachother and DA could have done a much better job. Jaylen and Yab are good players and no ones angry at those players or that we selected them, IMO people see that we could have traded down and selected those players while also getting more assets and VALUE

Makes perfect sense if Danny is a mind-reader.  Maybe you're giving him too much credit in that regard...or hey, maybe YOU are a mind-reader!  ::)
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: mef730 on July 13, 2016, 01:27:21 PM
Nets pull of a huge coup, getting Luis Scola on a 1-year deal.

http://www.thescore.com/nba/news/1058577-report-nets-scola-agree-to-1-year-deal

DO NOT TRADE THAT '17 pick under any circumstances. No Blake, No Boogie, No Kareem, Noone.

Surprised that we didn't go for him. We have enough cap room left for a long-term max deal. Maybe they'd trade him to us if we gave them their picks back.

Mike
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: GreenShooter on July 13, 2016, 02:07:07 PM
Scola is like 36 years old. He's trending down faaaast. FAAAAASSSSTT!

Speaking of Dunn, how awful does Philly feel about not trading for the 3rd pick in the draft. What a whiff (it looks like right now).
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: mef730 on July 13, 2016, 02:45:46 PM
Scola is like 36 years old. He's trending down faaaast. FAAAAASSSSTT!

Speaking of Dunn, how awful does Philly feel about not trading for the 3rd pick in the draft. What a whiff (it looks like right now).

Nah, it's only summer league. He's beating up on a bunch of 18 and 19-year olds. We'll see how it looks a couple of years from now. But if we were asking for the Lakers or their pick next year, they did the right thing.

Poor Brooklyn. I almost feel bad for them. Almost.

Mike
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: rondofan1255 on July 14, 2016, 01:56:29 AM
 Adrian Wojnarowski Retweeted
Shams Charania ‏@ShamsCharania 38m38 minutes ago

Free agent forward Terrence Jones is nearing agreement on a one-year deal with the New Orleans Pelicans, league sources tell The Vertical.

Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojVerticalNBA 2h2 hours ago

Free agent guard Joe Harris has agreed to a deal with the Brooklyn Nets, league sources tell @TheVertical.
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: Adelaide Celt on July 14, 2016, 11:05:14 AM
So the Nets' roster stands at 13 by my count, just 2 spots left.

Current depth chart

Jeremy Lin/ Greivis Vasquez/ Isaiah Whitehead
Bojan Bogdanovic/ Sean Kilpatrick/ Joe Harris
Rondae Hollis-Jefferson/ Caris LeVert
Luis Scola/ Trevor Booker/ Chris McCullough
Brook Lopez/ Justin Hamilton

Hopefully the last 2 spots are taken up by Summer League scrubs. If that isn't the worst roster in the league it's very close to it.
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: saltlover on July 14, 2016, 11:06:47 AM
So the Nets' roster stands at 13 by my count, just 2 spots left.

Current depth chart

Jeremy Lin/ Greivis Vasquez/ Isaiah Whitehead
Bojan Bogdanovic/ Sean Kilpatrick/ Joe Harris
Rondae Hollis-Jefferson/ Caris LeVert
Luis Scola/ Trevor Booker/ Chris McCullough
Brook Lopez/ Justin Hamilton

Hopefully the last 2 spots are taken up by Summer League scrubs. If that isn't the worst roster in the league it's very close to it.

Trevor Booker is starting over Scola, but regardless, that is the worst roster in the NBA.
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: jambr380 on July 14, 2016, 12:09:31 PM
So the Nets' roster stands at 13 by my count, just 2 spots left.

Current depth chart

Jeremy Lin/ Greivis Vasquez/ Isaiah Whitehead
Bojan Bogdanovic/ Sean Kilpatrick/ Joe Harris
Rondae Hollis-Jefferson/ Caris LeVert
Luis Scola/ Trevor Booker/ Chris McCullough
Brook Lopez/ Justin Hamilton

Hopefully the last 2 spots are taken up by Summer League scrubs. If that isn't the worst roster in the league it's very close to it.

Trevor Booker is starting over Scola, but regardless, that is the worst roster in the NBA.

I know we said this last year (and they still finished third worst), but imagine if Lopez misses any significant time. Wow - that roster is horrible.
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: footey on July 14, 2016, 12:18:35 PM
My one concern is that Riley will try to tank next season, just to mess us up.
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: Silent Storm on July 14, 2016, 12:24:22 PM
Looks like they're about to sign Anthony Bennett: https://twitter.com/MikeAScotto
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: hwangjini_1 on July 14, 2016, 12:32:00 PM
Looks like they're about to sign Anthony Bennett: https://twitter.com/MikeAScotto
and the celtics position in the draft improves yet again!  ;D
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: hwangjini_1 on July 14, 2016, 12:32:33 PM
So the Nets' roster stands at 13 by my count, just 2 spots left.

Current depth chart

Jeremy Lin/ Greivis Vasquez/ Isaiah Whitehead
Bojan Bogdanovic/ Sean Kilpatrick/ Joe Harris
Rondae Hollis-Jefferson/ Caris LeVert
Luis Scola/ Trevor Booker/ Chris McCullough
Brook Lopez/ Justin Hamilton

Hopefully the last 2 spots are taken up by Summer League scrubs. If that isn't the worst roster in the league it's very close to it.
this really really sucks as a team. good gosh, i am soooo happy.
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: Jiri Welsch on July 14, 2016, 12:35:33 PM
My one concern is that Riley will try to tank next season, just to mess us up.

Whiteside, Johnson, Dragic, Winslow alone will win you plenty of games. I'm not sure they can lose as many as BKN even if they're trying.
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: Donoghus on July 14, 2016, 12:38:29 PM
My one concern is that Riley will try to tank next season, just to mess us up.

Whiteside, Johnson, Dragic, Winslow alone will win you plenty of games. I'm not sure they can lose as many as BKN even if they're trying.

BKN is a Brook Lopez injury away from being a sub 15 win team, IMO.

EDIT:  And I might be  generous there.
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: saltlover on July 14, 2016, 12:44:34 PM
My one concern is that Riley will try to tank next season, just to mess us up.

Riley can't tank nearly enough next season to get near the Nets.  Compare their starting lineups, and we'll assume Bosh is done.

Dragic > Lin
Richardson > Bogdanovich
Winslow > RHJ
Williams? < Booker
Whiteside > Lopez

Tyler Johnson and Wayne Ellington, while nothing special, are better than anything the Nets have on their bench.

I don't think the Heat will be good.  Frankly I expect them to be a bottom 8 team.  But it would take a lot for them to drop below the Nets, who shouldn't win 20 games.  There's a big difference between not good, like the Heat, and miserably bad, like the Nets.


Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: TheSundanceKid on July 14, 2016, 12:52:59 PM
It does look like Marks is setting himself up the same way Hinkie did. That is to use cap space to acquire assets as the year goes on. That is a good option for them considering what they were able to acquire for Thad Young. That's good for us too as it will mean less talent on the floor this year
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: Ilikesports17 on July 14, 2016, 12:54:03 PM
My one concern is that Riley will try to tank next season, just to mess us up.

Riley can't tank nearly enough next season to get near the Nets.  Compare their starting lineups, and we'll assume Bosh is done.

Dragic > Lin
Richardson > Bogdanovich
Winslow > RHJ
Williams? < Booker
Whiteside > Lopez

Tyler Johnson and Wayne Ellington, while nothing special, are better than anything the Nets have on their bench.

I don't think the Heat will be good.  Frankly I expect them to be a bottom 8 team.  But it would take a lot for them to drop below the Nets, who shouldn't win 20 games.  There's a big difference between not good, like the Heat, and miserably bad, like the Nets.
I believe the Nets don't even own their first this year.
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: apc on July 14, 2016, 12:55:41 PM
The Nests signed Anthony Bennett, does that means they are raising the white flag ?  ;)
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: saltlover on July 14, 2016, 01:05:42 PM
My one concern is that Riley will try to tank next season, just to mess us up.

Riley can't tank nearly enough next season to get near the Nets.  Compare their starting lineups, and we'll assume Bosh is done.

Dragic > Lin
Richardson > Bogdanovich
Winslow > RHJ
Williams? < Booker
Whiteside > Lopez

Tyler Johnson and Wayne Ellington, while nothing special, are better than anything the Nets have on their bench.

I don't think the Heat will be good.  Frankly I expect them to be a bottom 8 team.  But it would take a lot for them to drop below the Nets, who shouldn't win 20 games.  There's a big difference between not good, like the Heat, and miserably bad, like the Nets.
I believe the Nets don't even own their first this year.

No, but you're telling Celticsblog that the Nets don't own their pick?
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: Jiri Welsch on July 14, 2016, 01:07:54 PM
Quote
  Adrian Wojnarowski
‏@WojVerticalNBA
Free agent guard Randy Foye has agreed on a one-year deal with the Brooklyn Nets, league sources tell @TheVertical.
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: hwangjini_1 on July 14, 2016, 01:08:41 PM
You guys think Brooklyn will offer Waiters? Anyone willing to put on offer sheet on him for that matter? lol
OKC have Oladipo and the other guy at sg now....so offering or matching for Waiters for big money does not make sense....

I think they did well as far as drafting Caris Lavert....they did draft him 20th but he is a legit player and his play speaks for itself.....just needs to get healthy.

Okafor was there on the table for the 3rd pick.....wish we traded down with the Wolves for Lavine and the #5 for Dunn and then traded the #5 for Okafor. At least Lavine and Okafor we know can play and have upside still/youth.

DRafting Jaylen with the #3 when there are: Stanley Johnson, Winslow, and even Jabari and others makes me scratch my head a bit.

I think people are angry at the value added based on the value of the picks.....they just did not equal eachother and DA could have done a much better job. Jaylen and Yab are good players and no ones angry at those players or that we selected them, IMO people see that we could have traded down and selected those players while also getting more assets and VALUE

Makes perfect sense if Danny is a mind-reader.  Maybe you're giving him too much credit in that regard...or hey, maybe YOU are a mind-reader!  ::)
or maybe this board is full of crap on these trade assumptions.
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: Vox_Populi on July 14, 2016, 01:37:49 PM
Quote
  Adrian Wojnarowski
‏@WojVerticalNBA
Free agent guard Randy Foye has agreed on a one-year deal with the Brooklyn Nets, league sources tell @TheVertical.
It gets better. This guy is awful. Shot 35% from the field on OKC on only wide-open looks. Can't defend anyone. Excellent move by Marks.
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: Jiri Welsch on July 14, 2016, 01:41:01 PM
Back of the rotation signings today for BKN.

It looks like their roster is being rounded out going into the year. They're one injury away from a guaranteed Top 3
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: Ilikesports17 on July 14, 2016, 01:42:19 PM
My one concern is that Riley will try to tank next season, just to mess us up.

Riley can't tank nearly enough next season to get near the Nets.  Compare their starting lineups, and we'll assume Bosh is done.

Dragic > Lin
Richardson > Bogdanovich
Winslow > RHJ
Williams? < Booker
Whiteside > Lopez

Tyler Johnson and Wayne Ellington, while nothing special, are better than anything the Nets have on their bench.

I don't think the Heat will be good.  Frankly I expect them to be a bottom 8 team.  But it would take a lot for them to drop below the Nets, who shouldn't win 20 games.  There's a big difference between not good, like the Heat, and miserably bad, like the Nets.
I believe the Nets don't even own their first this year.

No, but you're telling Celticsblog that the Nets don't own their pick?
[dang]. lol Im not sure what happened there. I meant to say the Heat didnt have their pick but this is also incorrect.

Im not quite sure what I was thinking there.

But yes, if anyone was unclear, the Brooklyn Nets do not have their own first next season lol.
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: mef730 on July 14, 2016, 01:47:11 PM
Who is Joe Harris?

Mike
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: saltlover on July 14, 2016, 01:55:01 PM
Who is Joe Harris?

Mike

3rd year player who rode the bench for the Cavs his 1st 1.5 seasons before getting hurt, traded, and released.
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: mef730 on July 14, 2016, 01:58:59 PM
Who is Joe Harris?

Mike

3rd year player who rode the bench for the Cavs his 1st 1.5 seasons before getting hurt, traded, and released.

That's the kind of thing I like to hear!

Mike
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: mef730 on July 14, 2016, 02:01:21 PM
Quote
  Adrian Wojnarowski
‏@WojVerticalNBA
Free agent guard Randy Foye has agreed on a one-year deal with the Brooklyn Nets, league sources tell @TheVertical.
It gets better. This guy is awful. Shot 35% from the field on OKC on only wide-open looks. Can't defend anyone. Excellent move by Marks.

Randy Foye? What kind of idiot would have drafted that guy, anyway?

;)

Mike
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: saltlover on July 14, 2016, 02:10:16 PM
Quote
  Adrian Wojnarowski
‏@WojVerticalNBA
Free agent guard Randy Foye has agreed on a one-year deal with the Brooklyn Nets, league sources tell @TheVertical.
It gets better. This guy is awful. Shot 35% from the field on OKC on only wide-open looks. Can't defend anyone. Excellent move by Marks.

Randy Foye? What kind of idiot would have drafted that guy, anyway?

;)

Mike

Not Ainge if that's what you're referring to.  He knew that Sebastian Telfair was a star in the making.
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on July 14, 2016, 02:19:14 PM
So, Brooklyn is taking fliers on young players to see what they can get from them. And are signing veterans to one year deals as well, maybe to help the young guys on how to properly become and NBA player?

I think this is what Brooklyn should do. They are basically stuck for two years, might as well find some diamonds in the rough while they're at it.
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: Emmette Bryant on July 15, 2016, 02:18:02 AM
http://www.basketballinsiders.com/nba-am-brooklyn-abandons-rebuild/?utm_medium=facebook&utm_source=twitterfeed
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: Adelaide Celt on July 15, 2016, 03:05:43 AM
So Anthony Bennett and Randy Foye round out the roster. Not quite Summer League scrubs but close enough.

Jeremy Lin/ Greivis Vasquez/ Isaiah Whitehead
Bojan Bogdanovic/ Sean Kilpatrick/ Joe Harris
Rondae Hollis-Jefferson/ Caris LeVert/ Randy Foye
Trevor Booker/ Luis Scola/ Anthony Bennett
Brook Lopez/ Justin Hamilton/ Chris McCullough

Allen Crabbe probably would've been the 2nd or 3rd best player on the team if they'd got him. Bad luck  8)
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: ashanm10 on July 15, 2016, 04:23:00 AM
So Anthony Bennett and Randy Foye round out the roster. Not quite Summer League scrubs but close enough.

Jeremy Lin/ Greivis Vasquez/ Isaiah Whitehead
Bojan Bogdanovic/ Sean Kilpatrick/ Joe Harris
Rondae Hollis-Jefferson/ Caris LeVert/ Randy Foye
Trevor Booker/ Luis Scola/ Anthony Bennett
Brook Lopez/ Justin Hamilton/ Chris McCullough

Allen Crabbe probably would've been the 2nd or 3rd best player on the team if they'd got him. Bad luck  8)

thats actually not a bad group, until one or two get plauged with injuries xd
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: TheSundanceKid on July 15, 2016, 06:14:39 AM
http://www.basketballinsiders.com/nba-am-brooklyn-abandons-rebuild/?utm_medium=facebook&utm_source=twitterfeed

I think that article was a little uninformed. His suggestion is basically keep going down onw road and never consider other options. The Nets struck out on Plan A, actually it was probably there plan M or X... and now they are taking on professional guys to round out the roster. It's about culture as much as anything. They are well positioned to take salary dumps during the season for extra picks and they aren't locked into long term money. There are still guys on the roster to develop such as RHJ and Bogdanovic, that PF kid and Levert. They are making sure they keep a level head and are smart in their moves, nothing rash.

All of which fits for us as we care most about this year's pick!
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: SHAQATTACK on July 15, 2016, 07:30:05 AM
Lopez will truely be a one man team this year.
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: Adelaide Celt on September 12, 2016, 10:49:50 AM
Tibor Pleiss would rather play in Turkey than try out for the Nets.

http://www.netsdaily.com/2016/9/11/12877904/tibor-pleiss-may-work-out-with-brooklyn-nets

Here's some more fun reading material  :)

http://www.netsdaily.com/2016/9/5/12799430/and-now-the-most-pessimistic-harshest-assessment-of-the-nets
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: mef730 on September 12, 2016, 11:51:51 AM
Tibor Pleiss would rather play in Turkey than try out for the Nets.

http://www.netsdaily.com/2016/9/11/12877904/tibor-pleiss-may-work-out-with-brooklyn-nets

Here's some more fun reading material  :)

http://www.netsdaily.com/2016/9/5/12799430/and-now-the-most-pessimistic-harshest-assessment-of-the-nets

TP for resuscitating this thread.

Mike
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: slamtheking on September 12, 2016, 11:54:16 AM
So Anthony Bennett and Randy Foye round out the roster. Not quite Summer League scrubs but close enough.

Jeremy Lin/ Greivis Vasquez/ Isaiah Whitehead
Bojan Bogdanovic/ Sean Kilpatrick/ Joe Harris
Rondae Hollis-Jefferson/ Caris LeVert/ Randy Foye
Trevor Booker/ Luis Scola/ Anthony Bennett
Brook Lopez/ Justin Hamilton/ Chris McCullough

Allen Crabbe probably would've been the 2nd or 3rd best player on the team if they'd got him. Bad luck  8)

thats actually not a bad group, until one or two get plauged with injuries xd
it's bad.  only player you can point to on the entire roster who could start for any but the worst teams in the league is Lopez.  even then, there's only Lin and Booker who might actually start for even the worst franchises
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: LarBrd33 on September 12, 2016, 12:55:31 PM
Lopez will truely be a one man team this year.
unless Anthony Bennett is suddenly a superstar. 
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: The One on September 12, 2016, 02:32:25 PM
Lopez will truely be a one man team this year.

I fear Lin could be a fly in the ping pong balls ointment.

Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: Moranis on September 12, 2016, 03:05:16 PM
I'd say that looks like a upper teens, low 20's win team, which should put them right there in contention for the best lottery odds.  Now maybe their young guys really impress and Lin is just what they need (along with Lopez staying healthy), but even then I can't see them winning more than 30 games.  Really just going to be a long season for Brooklyn, which shapes us nicely for Boston.
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: saltlover on September 12, 2016, 03:08:21 PM
Lopez will truely be a one man team this year.

I fear Lin could be a fly in the ping pong balls ointment.

I don't.  He might go off and be the key player in some wins you remember. But he's also going to be the primary cause of at least as many losses that you forget.
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: Granath on September 12, 2016, 03:19:41 PM
Lopez will truely be a one man team this year.

I fear Lin could be a fly in the ping pong balls ointment.

Lin's on his 6th team in 6 years for a reason and that's not because he's a stud.
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: celticsclay on September 12, 2016, 03:41:23 PM
Lopez will truely be a one man team this year.

I fear Lin could be a fly in the ping pong balls ointment.

Lin's on his 6th team in 6 years for a reason and that's not because he's a stud.

he is best served in the role he was in last year, offense against bench units. Ask him to do more than that (which the nets are) and it is trouble.
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: LarBrd33 on September 12, 2016, 06:26:07 PM
So a couple years ago the Nets team that made the playoffs had the following three players other than Lopez receive the most amount of minutes:

Joe Johnson - 14.4 points, 4.8 rebounds, 3.7 assists with 44%/46%/80% shooting in 34.9mpg
Jarret Jack - 12 points, 4.7 assists, 3.1 rebounds with 44%/27%/88% shooting in 28mpg
Deron Williams - 13 points, 6.6 assists, 3.5 rebounds, 39%/37%/83% shooting in 31.1mpg

Last year they lost Deron.   Jack went down with an injury.  Johnson was bought out.  One of their only impact players (RHJ) missed most of the seaosn.  The team was predictably terrible as a result.

Brook Lopez remains an impact player.  My question is, what's the minimal amount of talent that team would need to add around Lopez for you to start getting worried again?  I don't mean contender level... I mean 35-41 wins and a potential accidental playoff berth.    The other thing that was different about last year was that the Eastern Conference wasn't total garbage again... two years ago, two different teams made the playoffs with losing records.  That wasn't the case last year.  So let's define "worst-case" scenario as Brooklyn winning enough games to push their pick outside the Top 10.   Last year 34 wins would have earned the 11th pick.  What would need to happen to that roster for you to think that was possible?
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: Celtics18 on September 12, 2016, 06:33:05 PM
Wow!! Do we really own their pick, unprotected, again?
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: celticsclay on September 12, 2016, 06:43:14 PM
So a couple years ago the Nets team that made the playoffs had the following three players other than Lopez receive the most amount of minutes:

Joe Johnson - 14.4 points, 4.8 rebounds, 3.7 assists with 44%/46%/80% shooting in 34.9mpg
Jarret Jack - 12 points, 4.7 assists, 3.1 rebounds with 44%/27%/88% shooting in 28mpg
Deron Williams - 13 points, 6.6 assists, 3.5 rebounds, 39%/37%/83% shooting in 31.1mpg

Last year they lost Deron.   Jack went down with an injury.  Johnson was bought out.  One of their only impact players (RHJ) missed most of the seaosn.  The team was predictably terrible as a result.

Brook Lopez remains an impact player.  My question is, what's the minimal amount of talent that team would need to add around Lopez for you to start getting worried again?  I don't mean contender level... I mean 35-41 wins and a potential accidental playoff berth.    The other thing that was different about last year was that the Eastern Conference wasn't total garbage again... two years ago, two different teams made the playoffs with losing records.  That wasn't the case last year.  So let's define "worst-case" scenario as Brooklyn winning enough games to push their pick outside the Top 10.   Last year 34 wins would have earned the 11th pick.  What would need to happen to that roster for you to think that was possible?

I think you are also forgetting they lost Thad Young who would probably still be their second best player this season.

I thought if this offseason they had managed to sign, for example, Mike Conley,  he would have been enough of an offensive weapon and distributor that he really could have had a major impact on their record. They also would have needed to sign a few veterans that were not completely washed up (eg scola of 4-5 years ago). Or just solid but unspectacular veterans like Jeff Green or Courtney Lee.

Thad Young was in this category, however his departure really negates the only quality veteran they were able to sign in Lin (who struggles when asked to take on a larger role).  I believe Scola and Foye at this point in their career are truly awful and will make them a worse team.

So to answer your question they are one lower level star and probably at least 2 reasonable veterans from sniffing 40 wins. I mean look at the teams that are project to compete for 40 wins. The Knicks and Bulls each have one star/superstars plus a high number of productive veterans around them. The Knicks are rolling out Noah, Rose, Courtney Lee, Brandon Jennings and Porzingas alongside Carmelo. The bulls have Robin Lopez, Taj Gibson, Rondo, Wade, McDermott etc to roll out. When you are left scratching your head on who in the world could be the Nets 3rd best player it is pretty mind blowing.
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: Granath on September 12, 2016, 07:56:44 PM
So a couple years ago the Nets team that made the playoffs had the following three players other than Lopez receive the most amount of minutes:

Joe Johnson - 14.4 points, 4.8 rebounds, 3.7 assists with 44%/46%/80% shooting in 34.9mpg
Jarret Jack - 12 points, 4.7 assists, 3.1 rebounds with 44%/27%/88% shooting in 28mpg
Deron Williams - 13 points, 6.6 assists, 3.5 rebounds, 39%/37%/83% shooting in 31.1mpg

Last year they lost Deron.   Jack went down with an injury.  Johnson was bought out.  One of their only impact players (RHJ) missed most of the seaosn.  The team was predictably terrible as a result.

Brook Lopez remains an impact player.  My question is, what's the minimal amount of talent that team would need to add around Lopez for you to start getting worried again?  I don't mean contender level... I mean 35-41 wins and a potential accidental playoff berth.    The other thing that was different about last year was that the Eastern Conference wasn't total garbage again... two years ago, two different teams made the playoffs with losing records.  That wasn't the case last year.  So let's define "worst-case" scenario as Brooklyn winning enough games to push their pick outside the Top 10.   Last year 34 wins would have earned the 11th pick.  What would need to happen to that roster for you to think that was possible?

Outside key injuries to every other team?

(1) No injuries
(2) At least one, if not two solid true starters (not guys like Lin) added to the above roster
(3) Lots of luck

I'm still not sure that gets it done. You're right in that the Nets "made the playoffs" two years ago. But let's look closely at that.

(1) They won the 8th spot with 38 wins  in a historically weak East. The East is markedly better now and 38 wins got you the 11th spot last year. The trend of the East seems to be improvement which means that a team that was barely competitive two years ago is no longer as strong as the rest of the competition. In fact, a strong argument that outside of Philly,every single team they finished in front of (NY, Indy, Detroit, Miami, Charlotte and Orlando) has easily surpassed their talent level.

(2) They got to 38 wins with an incredible amount of luck. Really, their playoff slot was remarkable. They won a tiebreaker against Indy. Their point differential was -2.9, which was far worse than Indy (#9, +.3) and Detroit (#12, -1.0). Point differential has been proven time and time again as one of the best statistics in showing relative strengths and so it's impossible to look at their run in 2014 and think it's likely that would happen again.

So it took a historically lucky season for them to make the playoffs in a historically weak division. What was a razor thin margin then is now a huge cavernous gulf. Getting back to their former talent level gets them nowhere near the playoffs now and they're nowhere near that talent level.

Now that's to make the playoffs. To push their pick outside the top 10? The same list as above, except only one solid level starter instead of two. They're a horrible team and it's going to take a miracle for them to finish outside even the bottom 5 this coming year. Frankly, it's not something that I'm going to dwell on at this point. I expect them to move Lopez before the trade deadline before he gets into the last year of his contract and just accept being horrible in order to maximize their few assets so they can try to turn it all around in two years.
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: jpotter33 on September 12, 2016, 08:18:27 PM
Wow!! Do we really own their pick, unprotected, again?

Well, not technically. We only have the ability to switch the pick, so we only have one first rounder this year. The dang Steipien rule screwed us over from fleecing them even harder!  :P
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: LarBrd33 on September 12, 2016, 08:22:51 PM
Wow!! Do we really own their pick, unprotected, again?

Well, not technically. We only have the ability to switch the pick, so we only have one first rounder this year. The dang Steipien rule screwed us over from fleecing them even harder!  :P
The gift that keeps giving.  When the dust finally settles on that trade, it might be the greatest deal in history.  It's already one of the best ever.  As a direct result of that trade we have Isaiah Thomas, Jaylen Brown, James Young and Tyler Zeller... plus the 2017 Brooklyn pick swap and the 2018 Brooklyn pick.   

Can you imagine trading either Jaylen or Thomas for KG + Pierce right now?  Lol
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: Vermont Green on September 13, 2016, 08:56:42 AM
Last season I thought they would be bad but part of my thinking was I assumed Lopez would get hurt at some point.  I was actually wrong about Lopez but they were still bad.

I don't know what the Nets can do.  I don't think they can put enough players around Lopez to actually contend (and if they do, he might get injured) so the logical thing is to trade Lopez and get some picks and young players back.

Even with Lopez, Thad, and Johnson, they weren't good.  Hard to see how they will be good this season (or next).  They probably should trade Lopez before he gets injured and then they are really screwed.
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: The One on September 13, 2016, 09:19:04 AM
Lopez will truely be a one man team this year.

I fear Lin could be a fly in the ping pong balls ointment.

Lin's on his 6th team in 6 years for a reason and that's not because he's a stud.

he is best served in the role he was in last year, offense against bench units. Ask him to do more than that (which the nets are) and it is trouble.

Thanks saltlover, Granath, celticsclay...you've calmed my fears.
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: hpantazo on September 13, 2016, 09:59:23 AM
The Nets are going to be horrible. But, don't underestimate the impact Greivis Vasquez can have on that team. He plays great when given minutes, which he will get on the Nets. I also think their prospects, McCullough and Levert, are pretty talented. They will lose a lot of games, sure, but they are not as horrible as some may think.
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: jpotter33 on September 13, 2016, 11:02:20 AM
Wow!! Do we really own their pick, unprotected, again?

Well, not technically. We only have the ability to switch the pick, so we only have one first rounder this year. The dang Steipien rule screwed us over from fleecing them even harder!  :P
The gift that keeps giving.  When the dust finally settles on that trade, it might be the greatest deal in history.  It's already one of the best ever.  As a direct result of that trade we have Isaiah Thomas, Jaylen Brown, James Young and Tyler Zeller... plus the 2017 Brooklyn pick swap and the 2018 Brooklyn pick.   

Can you imagine trading either Jaylen or Thomas for KG + Pierce right now?  Lol

Definitely one of the better trades in NBA history, specifically recent history.

The other potential deal that fell through with the Clippers would've been pretty dope though, too. It was something like Deandre Jordan and a pick for KG, which while not quite as large of a steal as the Brooklyn deal, it still would've been a majorly lopsided deal that would've screwed the Clippers in the long run.
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: dreamgreen on September 13, 2016, 11:49:00 AM
The Nets are going to be horrible. But, don't underestimate the impact Greivis Vasquez can have on that team. He plays great when given minutes, which he will get on the Nets. I also think their prospects, McCullough and Levert, are pretty talented. They will lose a lot of games, sure, but they are not as horrible as some may think.

Yea but you could say all the bad teams got better but no one really knows till the season starts!
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: dannyboy35 on September 13, 2016, 12:06:36 PM
They sure look bad on paper but they won't be trying to lose and there's always horrible teams trying to do that so unfortunately I don't think we are a lock at a top 4 pick. It sure seems we have to be a lock for a top 6 though and an extremely likely top 5.
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: mef730 on September 13, 2016, 03:04:41 PM
Wow!! Do we really own their pick, unprotected, again?

Well, not technically. We only have the ability to switch the pick, so we only have one first rounder this year. The dang Steipien rule screwed us over from fleecing them even harder!  :P

Not to mention that we have their first rounder again next year, and that one is outright ours.

They sure look bad on paper but they won't be trying to lose and there's always horrible teams trying to do that so unfortunately I don't think we are a lock at a top 4 pick. It sure seems we have to be a lock for a top 6 though and an extremely likely top 5.

No. I'm as pessimistic as they come and I can't figure out a way in which they are not one of the three worst teams. I've tried, if for no other reason than to satisfy the irrational part of me that even considers jinxes. But they are horrible. They're awful. Even if BL were healthy 82 games, which he won't be, they'll still stink.

Try as a I might, I just can't come up with a way to view them as anything but, "yes, they are that bad."

Mike
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: alldaboston on September 13, 2016, 03:38:49 PM
Lol training camps and preseason haven't even started yet and we are already at 12 pages!
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: Ilikesports17 on September 13, 2016, 03:58:07 PM
Wow!! Do we really own their pick, unprotected, again?

Well, not technically. We only have the ability to switch the pick, so we only have one first rounder this year. The dang Steipien rule screwed us over from fleecing them even harder!  :P

Not to mention that we have their first rounder again next year, and that one is outright ours.

They sure look bad on paper but they won't be trying to lose and there's always horrible teams trying to do that so unfortunately I don't think we are a lock at a top 4 pick. It sure seems we have to be a lock for a top 6 though and an extremely likely top 5.

No. I'm as pessimistic as they come and I can't figure out a way in which they are not one of the three worst teams. I've tried, if for no other reason than to satisfy the irrational part of me that even considers jinxes. But they are horrible. They're awful. Even if BL were healthy 82 games, which he won't be, they'll still stink.

Try as a I might, I just can't come up with a way to view them as anything but, "yes, they are that bad."

Mike
Im not as excited as you. I worry about their hustle and coaching. Plus they have a handful of NBA players on that team.
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: celticsclay on September 13, 2016, 05:22:13 PM
Wow!! Do we really own their pick, unprotected, again?

Well, not technically. We only have the ability to switch the pick, so we only have one first rounder this year. The dang Steipien rule screwed us over from fleecing them even harder!  :P

Not to mention that we have their first rounder again next year, and that one is outright ours.

They sure look bad on paper but they won't be trying to lose and there's always horrible teams trying to do that so unfortunately I don't think we are a lock at a top 4 pick. It sure seems we have to be a lock for a top 6 though and an extremely likely top 5.

No. I'm as pessimistic as they come and I can't figure out a way in which they are not one of the three worst teams. I've tried, if for no other reason than to satisfy the irrational part of me that even considers jinxes. But they are horrible. They're awful. Even if BL were healthy 82 games, which he won't be, they'll still stink.

Try as a I might, I just can't come up with a way to view them as anything but, "yes, they are that bad."

Mike
Im not as excited as you. I worry about their hustle and coaching. Plus they have a handful of NBA players on that team.

Who are the handful Lin and Lopez? Maybe you can say RHJ but he has only played 40 games and is probably a below average starter. 
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: jpotter33 on October 11, 2016, 09:14:43 PM
So, I'm watching the Nets play against the Heat on NBATV. Not that this Heat team is really any good either, but the Nets look like they're going to compete on many nights and not just lay down for losses.

Lin is one of those players that will always be able to get his own offense, which will keep them in some games itself, and RHJ is surprising me watching him play. They're going to be bad no matter what, but especially after the Simmons injury in Philly, I don't think they'll run away with the number one worst record. It'll be a pretty close race all season long.

I'm kind of hoping we just ultimately trade the pick for someone like Boogie, which will make this season a bit more enjoyable not stressing over every single win by the Nets lol
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: LarBrd33 on October 11, 2016, 09:52:11 PM
Bennett looks like he might actually make contributions this year.  He always had the tools.  He just hadn't put it together. 
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: tarheelsxxiii on October 11, 2016, 10:09:51 PM
Bennett looks like he might actually make contributions this year.  He always had the tools.  He just hadn't put it together.

With Embiid now "The Process," Bennett may consider adopting "The Revival" this season.
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: alldaboston on October 11, 2016, 10:30:13 PM
So, I'm watching the Nets play against the Heat on NBATV. Not that this Heat team is really any good either, but the Nets look like they're going to compete on many nights and not just lay down for losses.

Lin is one of those players that will always be able to get his own offense, which will keep them in some games itself, and RHJ is surprising me watching him play. They're going to be bad no matter what, but especially after the Simmons injury in Philly, I don't think they'll run away with the number one worst record. It'll be a pretty close race all season long.

I'm kind of hoping we just ultimately trade the pick for someone like Boogie, which will make this season a bit more enjoyable not stressing over every single win by the Nets lol

that's the feeling i have about this nets team too. it's almost like a fresh start for them. they're gonna do better than expected, although i still dont think itll matter too much in the grand scheme of things (i'm making an early prediction of some good lottery luck for us this season).

they still lost by 21 though.
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: Boris Badenov on October 11, 2016, 10:33:07 PM
I look at that roster and see a whole bunch of guys who can't play defense.
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: Ogaju on October 12, 2016, 12:51:18 AM
Celtics should do their part, and beat the Nets in all their confrontations this year.
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: alldaboston on October 12, 2016, 01:04:52 AM
Celtics should do their part, and beat the Nets in all their confrontations this year.

but you just know we'll split the season series with them lol

speaking of which, we play them on thursday huh? i hope we win. we'll win, right?

maybe we split the preseason series with them too.
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: celticsclay on October 12, 2016, 01:09:39 AM
So, I'm watching the Nets play against the Heat on NBATV. Not that this Heat team is really any good either, but the Nets look like they're going to compete on many nights and not just lay down for losses.

Lin is one of those players that will always be able to get his own offense, which will keep them in some games itself, and RHJ is surprising me watching him play. They're going to be bad no matter what, but especially after the Simmons injury in Philly, I don't think they'll run away with the number one worst record. It'll be a pretty close race all season long.

I'm kind of hoping we just ultimately trade the pick for someone like Boogie, which will make this season a bit more enjoyable not stressing over every single win by the Nets lol

I probably agree with your overall point mostly, but kind of weird to see people stressing in a game where they were down 25+ before the benches were emptied. Am
I missing something? Meanwhile the lakers are in overtime In a game lillard scored 30 (but did not play in 4th or overtime)
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: jpotter33 on October 12, 2016, 01:18:13 AM
So, I'm watching the Nets play against the Heat on NBATV. Not that this Heat team is really any good either, but the Nets look like they're going to compete on many nights and not just lay down for losses.

Lin is one of those players that will always be able to get his own offense, which will keep them in some games itself, and RHJ is surprising me watching him play. They're going to be bad no matter what, but especially after the Simmons injury in Philly, I don't think they'll run away with the number one worst record. It'll be a pretty close race all season long.

I'm kind of hoping we just ultimately trade the pick for someone like Boogie, which will make this season a bit more enjoyable not stressing over every single win by the Nets lol

I probably agree with your overall point mostly, but kind of weird to see people stressing in a game where they were down 25+ before the benches were emptied. Am
I missing something? Meanwhile the lakers are in overtime In a game lillard scored 30 (but did not play in 4th or overtime)

They were tied and playing well midway through the third when I made the post. I actually stopped paying attention after that lol

As for the Lakers, I'm not really worried about them. I think they're better than most people give them credit for, and they should win enough to not be a threat to the Nets record.
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: MJohnnyboy on October 12, 2016, 01:34:03 AM
I'm not worried. Every team in the east excluding Philly will be trying to make the playoffs this season (Heck, even Philly could be better than people think). Brooklyn will be seen as a squad teams will use to gain leverage in the playoff race. Brooklyn should be every bit as awful as they were last year, and, like last year, they are a Brook Lopez injury from the absolute worst team in the league.

As for the head-to-head match up with the Nets for this season, remember two things in regards to last season.
1. Every game the Celtics played against the Nets, the Celtics had David Lee on the squad, and at that time, the team was barely hovering over .500 (They were playing at a 50 win pace after they stopped playing D-Lee).
2. Every game the Celtics played against the Nets, the Nets had Thad Young on the squad. That won't be the case this season.
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: alldaboston on October 12, 2016, 02:19:35 AM
So, I'm watching the Nets play against the Heat on NBATV. Not that this Heat team is really any good either, but the Nets look like they're going to compete on many nights and not just lay down for losses.

Lin is one of those players that will always be able to get his own offense, which will keep them in some games itself, and RHJ is surprising me watching him play. They're going to be bad no matter what, but especially after the Simmons injury in Philly, I don't think they'll run away with the number one worst record. It'll be a pretty close race all season long.

I'm kind of hoping we just ultimately trade the pick for someone like Boogie, which will make this season a bit more enjoyable not stressing over every single win by the Nets lol

I probably agree with your overall point mostly, but kind of weird to see people stressing in a game where they were down 25+ before the benches were emptied. Am
I missing something? Meanwhile the lakers are in overtime In a game lillard scored 30 (but did not play in 4th or overtime)

They were tied and playing well midway through the third when I made the post. I actually stopped paying attention after that lol

As for the Lakers, I'm not really worried about them. I think they're better than most people give them credit for, and they should win enough to not be a threat to the Nets record.

the Lakers are gonna be scary good in a couple of years. it sucks to say this, but the core they have is very very nice.

Russell looks like the real deal (minus tonight, he stunk it up pretty bad tonight). now that he's been unleashed from the wrath of Byron Scott, hes gonna have a big year, and i wouldnt be surprised to see him average like 20 a game this year.

Clarkson is a good scoring guard, although i also see him as a chucker at times (walton has him as their 6th man right now, not sure if i agree).

Ingram has struggled thus far, but if he pans out as expected, hes also gonna be a good player.

Randle is a double double machine, although i am not a huge fan of his game personally (cant shoot, cant defend, no right hand, often reckless and with tunnel vision).

then theyve got solid complimentary pieces. they picked Zubac i think at 32nd overall this year, hes a big body and hes from croatia too (he actually was Zizic's backup i think for a bit over as Cibona before moving on to Mega Leks), in terms of pure skillset he probably is better than zizic, at least right now. and maybe my favorite laker (if such a thing exists) after D'Angelo russell is Larry Nance Jr. great defender, good rebounder, explosive, good person overall too (battles crohn's disease as well), showed in summer league that he's worked on his jumper and can have a nice pick and pop game with russell.

basically, theyve got a lot of nice young talent (and coach Walton now), and while i dont like all of them a whole ton, I think they rise up the ranks in the west very quickly.
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: Ilikesports17 on October 12, 2016, 02:36:53 AM
So, I'm watching the Nets play against the Heat on NBATV. Not that this Heat team is really any good either, but the Nets look like they're going to compete on many nights and not just lay down for losses.

Lin is one of those players that will always be able to get his own offense, which will keep them in some games itself, and RHJ is surprising me watching him play. They're going to be bad no matter what, but especially after the Simmons injury in Philly, I don't think they'll run away with the number one worst record. It'll be a pretty close race all season long.

I'm kind of hoping we just ultimately trade the pick for someone like Boogie, which will make this season a bit more enjoyable not stressing over every single win by the Nets lol

I probably agree with your overall point mostly, but kind of weird to see people stressing in a game where they were down 25+ before the benches were emptied. Am
I missing something? Meanwhile the lakers are in overtime In a game lillard scored 30 (but did not play in 4th or overtime)

They were tied and playing well midway through the third when I made the post. I actually stopped paying attention after that lol

As for the Lakers, I'm not really worried about them. I think they're better than most people give them credit for, and they should win enough to not be a threat to the Nets record.

the Lakers are gonna be scary good in a couple of years. it sucks to say this, but the core they have is very very nice.

Russell looks like the real deal (minus tonight, he stunk it up pretty bad tonight). now that he's been unleashed from the wrath of Byron Scott, hes gonna have a big year, and i wouldnt be surprised to see him average like 20 a game this year.

Clarkson is a good scoring guard, although i also see him as a chucker at times (walton has him as their 6th man right now, not sure if i agree).

Ingram has struggled thus far, but if he pans out as expected, hes also gonna be a good player.

Randle is a double double machine, although i am not a huge fan of his game personally (cant shoot, cant defend, no right hand, often reckless and with tunnel vision).

then theyve got solid complimentary pieces. they picked Zubac i think at 32nd overall this year, hes a big body and hes from croatia too (he actually was Zizic's backup i think for a bit over as Cibona before moving on to Mega Leks), in terms of pure skillset he probably is better than zizic, at least right now. and maybe my favorite laker (if such a thing exists) after D'Angelo russell is Larry Nance Jr. great defender, good rebounder, explosive, good person overall too (battles crohn's disease as well), showed in summer league that he's worked on his jumper and can have a nice pick and pop game with russell.

basically, theyve got a lot of nice young talent (and coach Walton now), and while i dont like all of them a whole ton, I think they rise up the ranks in the west very quickly.
eh. Walton is whatever. Sure he led the Warriors to a great record, but Im sure pretty much anyone could have.

Russell looks terrrific but hes got maturity problems. Randle is nice, but he certainly doesnt look like a star. Clarkson is really impressive to me and Ingram's got a lot of bustability.

Im not too worried about them. Us, Minnesota, Detroit, Utah, and Philly all have brighter futures in my opinion.
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: trickybilly on October 12, 2016, 11:27:09 PM
Bennett looks like he might actually make contributions this year.  He always had the tools.  He just hadn't put it together.

http://www.masslive.com/celtics/index.ssf/2016/10/anthony_bennett_a_brooklyn_net.html
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: alldaboston on October 13, 2016, 12:15:29 AM
Bennett looks like he might actually make contributions this year.  He always had the tools.  He just hadn't put it together.

http://www.masslive.com/celtics/index.ssf/2016/10/anthony_bennett_a_brooklyn_net.html

to be fair, it didnt look accidental at all. you can tell it's staged for Shaqtin specifically. just look at his face once he "realizes": "oh, what did i say...." like, im sure it was just a prank
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: trickybilly on October 24, 2016, 11:31:22 PM
http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/17873365/nba-power-rankings-preseason-edition

This trade deadline promises to be exciting if Marc Stein is right here..
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: jpotter33 on October 25, 2016, 12:24:25 AM
http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/17873365/nba-power-rankings-preseason-edition

This trade deadline promises to be exciting if Marc Stein is right here..

What specifically are you pointing to with this comment? I didn't really see anything with this link other than a fairly uncontroversial power rankings list.
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: trickybilly on October 25, 2016, 12:44:03 AM
http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/17873365/nba-power-rankings-preseason-edition

This trade deadline promises to be exciting if Marc Stein is right here..

What specifically are you pointing to with this comment? I didn't really see anything with this link other than a fairly uncontroversial power rankings list.

Brooklyn anchored to the bottom. Value of pick skyrockets if accurate at deadline.
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: libermaniac on October 25, 2016, 03:03:01 AM
http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/17873365/nba-power-rankings-preseason-edition

This trade deadline promises to be exciting if Marc Stein is right here..

What specifically are you pointing to with this comment? I didn't really see anything with this link other than a fairly uncontroversial power rankings list.

Brooklyn anchored to the bottom. Value of pick skyrockets if accurate at deadline.

There is no sense trading the pick until the lottery is done.  In a trade it will likely be valued as the 3rd or 4th pick in the draft.  But, if we trade it away as such and then win the lotto, that would be a huge mistake. 
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: mef730 on October 25, 2016, 03:41:53 PM
NY Post on relaunching the Nets. High hopes for Lin...

http://nypost.com/2016/10/24/relaunching-nets-hold-breath-and-hope-they-already-hit-bottom/

Mike
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: LarBrd33 on October 25, 2016, 04:23:38 PM
There's still a chance that team might play itself out of the bottom 5.   
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: GratefulCs on October 25, 2016, 04:33:49 PM
There's still a chance that team might play itself out of the bottom 5.
i'm worried about this too

They definitely look a little better this year

Plus they won't tank


I'm hoping they trade Lopez while his value is high, but I'm not counting on it

Part of me hopes we trade the picks while the value is high
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: tankcity! on October 25, 2016, 05:05:25 PM
There's still a chance that team might play itself out of the bottom 5.

Yup, they have no incentive to lose. The coach will do everything he can to win so that has to mean something. I'm going to be happy with a top ten pick tbh. Hard to complain if that is what ends up happening.
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: GratefulCs on October 25, 2016, 05:17:32 PM
There's still a chance that team might play itself out of the bottom 5.

Yup, they have no incentive to lose. The coach will do everything he can to win so that has to mean something. I'm going to be happy with a top ten pick tbh. Hard to complain if that is what ends up happening.
it's like the movie major league

The nets are the Indians, and we're that owner who wants them to lose

Except they already moved the team
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: MBunge on October 25, 2016, 05:26:29 PM
The paradox with the Nets is they have no incentive to tank but they have every incentive to trade existing assets.  Brook Lopez is going to be 30 and asking for a max contract before have their own first round pick back and I think they've only got two second round picks through the year 2020.

They need picks and young players with upside and can only get them by trading their veterans.  If you are the Nets, do you tough it out for two more seasons just to deny Boston a better pick or do you take the best deal you can get for Lopez?

Mike
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: hwangjini_1 on October 25, 2016, 05:40:51 PM
The paradox with the Nets is they have no incentive to tank but they have every incentive to trade existing assets.  Brook Lopez is going to be 30 and asking for a max contract before have their own first round pick back and I think they've only got two second round picks through the year 2020.

They need picks and young players with upside and can only get them by trading their veterans.  If you are the Nets, do you tough it out for two more seasons just to deny Boston a better pick or do you take the best deal you can get for Lopez?

Mike
the answer to your question is simple and clear. why punish your own team just to spite another team?

since the draft will not help your team, you ignore it as an option and instead rebuild through trades and free agents.

so they should trade whom you can for what they can to start the rebuild.
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: Ilikesports17 on October 25, 2016, 05:49:24 PM
The paradox with the Nets is they have no incentive to tank but they have every incentive to trade existing assets.  Brook Lopez is going to be 30 and asking for a max contract before have their own first round pick back and I think they've only got two second round picks through the year 2020.

They need picks and young players with upside and can only get them by trading their veterans.  If you are the Nets, do you tough it out for two more seasons just to deny Boston a better pick or do you take the best deal you can get for Lopez?

Mike
the answer to your question is simple and clear. why punish your own team just to spite another team?

since the draft will not help your team, you ignore it as an option and instead rebuild through trades and free agents.

so they should trade whom you can for what they can to start the rebuild.
How much can you get for Brook Lopez?

I doubt they get a top 10 pick for the guy (or equivalent value in a young player) so I think Lopez as a leader and someone who can keep them resembling an NBA team could be more valuable to them long term than the late Lotto pick he might return.
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: celticsclay on October 25, 2016, 05:55:59 PM
Do people really forget they benched their best 2 players for the last 7 games of last year? Why do we keep saying "remember they wont tank." They may have not been tanking but they did the same thing as every other bad team last year.
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: saltlover on October 25, 2016, 05:59:00 PM
The paradox with the Nets is they have no incentive to tank but they have every incentive to trade existing assets.  Brook Lopez is going to be 30 and asking for a max contract before have their own first round pick back and I think they've only got two second round picks through the year 2020.

They need picks and young players with upside and can only get them by trading their veterans.  If you are the Nets, do you tough it out for two more seasons just to deny Boston a better pick or do you take the best deal you can get for Lopez?

Mike
the answer to your question is simple and clear. why punish your own team just to spite another team?

since the draft will not help your team, you ignore it as an option and instead rebuild through trades and free agents.

so they should trade whom you can for what they can to start the rebuild.
How much can you get for Brook Lopez?

I doubt they get a top 10 pick for the guy (or equivalent value in a young player) so I think Lopez as a leader and someone who can keep them resembling an NBA team could be more valuable to them long term than the late Lotto pick he might return.

The Hawks got #12 for a year of Jeff Teague and not taking back any salary.  Lopez at the trade deadline (so 1.5 seasons) is worth at least that.  Especially if the Nets are willing to take back someone who's contract isn't expiring.
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: JBcat on October 25, 2016, 05:59:11 PM
There's still a chance that team might play itself out of the bottom 5.

Yup, they have no incentive to lose. The coach will do everything he can to win so that has to mean something. I'm going to be happy with a top ten pick tbh. Hard to complain if that is what ends up happening.

I could the Nets trying to pump the trade value of some their vets including Lopez by the trade deadline, and then try to sell them off for draft picks/younger players.  If that happens it could be a complete nosedive for the the 2nd half of the year.
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: LarBrd33 on October 25, 2016, 06:05:19 PM
There's still a chance that team might play itself out of the bottom 5.
i'm worried about this too

They definitely look a little better this year

Plus they won't tank


I'm hoping they trade Lopez while his value is high, but I'm not counting on it

Part of me hopes we trade the picks while the value is high
Just curious...

If removing Lopez from that team would guarantee a bottom 3 record from the Nets, would you move the 2018 Brooklyn pick for Lopez?   

Or are you confident enough in Brooklyn's sucktitude this year regardless of Lopez/don't think Lopez would help us.
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: tazzmaniac on October 25, 2016, 06:36:34 PM
This article mentions Celtics, Bucks, Hornets and Blazers as possible destinations for Lopez. 
If the trade deadline is looming and no one else of significance is available, should we try to trade for him without using the Nets picks.  Say for: Amir, Zeller, Celtics 2018 and Memphis 2019? 

http://www.espn.com/blog/nba/rumors/post/_/id/39899/nba-rumor-central-could-the-nets-trade-brook-lopez-this-season
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: moiso on October 25, 2016, 07:40:12 PM
There's still a chance that team might play itself out of the bottom 5.
i'm worried about this too

They definitely look a little better this year

Plus they won't tank


I'm hoping they trade Lopez while his value is high, but I'm not counting on it

Part of me hopes we trade the picks while the value is high
Im worried about finishing 2 or 3, not anything higher than that.  The roster is similarly horrible but they do look like they will try hard, for a while at least.  I wouldn't trade this pick in fear that it won't be a great asset.
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: Ilikesports17 on October 25, 2016, 07:46:07 PM
There's still a chance that team might play itself out of the bottom 5.
i'm worried about this too

They definitely look a little better this year

Plus they won't tank


I'm hoping they trade Lopez while his value is high, but I'm not counting on it

Part of me hopes we trade the picks while the value is high
Im worried about finishing 2 or 3, not anything higher than that.  The roster is similarly horrible but they do like they will try hard, for a while at least.  I wouldn't trade this pick in fear that it won't be a great asset.
Lets keep in mind that during our 2014-2015 playoff run we had one of the least talented rosters in the entire NBA.

Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: hwangjini_1 on October 25, 2016, 08:04:33 PM
There's still a chance that team might play itself out of the bottom 5.
i'm worried about this too

They definitely look a little better this year

Plus they won't tank


I'm hoping they trade Lopez while his value is high, but I'm not counting on it

Part of me hopes we trade the picks while the value is high
Im worried about finishing 2 or 3, not anything higher than that.  The roster is similarly horrible but they do like they will try hard, for a while at least.  I wouldn't trade this pick in fear that it won't be a great asset.
Lets keep in mind that during our 2014-2015 playoff run we had one of the least talented rosters in the entire NBA.
And lets also keep in mind that the nets don't have CBS as their coach. 

The nets had one of the least talented rosters in the NBA for all of last year. It did not seem to help them.
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: Ilikesports17 on October 25, 2016, 08:59:27 PM
There's still a chance that team might play itself out of the bottom 5.
i'm worried about this too

They definitely look a little better this year

Plus they won't tank


I'm hoping they trade Lopez while his value is high, but I'm not counting on it

Part of me hopes we trade the picks while the value is high
Im worried about finishing 2 or 3, not anything higher than that.  The roster is similarly horrible but they do like they will try hard, for a while at least.  I wouldn't trade this pick in fear that it won't be a great asset.
Lets keep in mind that during our 2014-2015 playoff run we had one of the least talented rosters in the entire NBA.
And lets also keep in mind that the nets don't have CBS as their coach. 

The nets had one of the least talented rosters in the NBA for all of last year. It did not seem to help them.
no but Kenny Atkinson is well regarded around the league and the mentality of the Nets this time around seems better. It is within the realm of possibility that last year vets like Johnson Jack and Young were frustrated with the ****iness of the team. The 2016-17 nets seem to have bought into the whole play hard every day thing.

Its unlikely but Im not ready to take it to the bank that this is a bottom 3 team.

I think they are the least talented team in the league. Right now I think they are the worst team in the league.
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: SCeltic34 on October 25, 2016, 09:34:29 PM
I haven't done a good job updating this thread, but there quite honestly wasn't much newsworthy.

Their final roster:

PG: Lin/Vasquez/Whitehead
SG: Foye/Kilpatrick/Harris/LeVert
SF: RHJ/Bogdonovic
PF: Booker/McCullough/Scola/Bennett
C: Lopez/Hamilton

I see a roster that is going to be an absolute disaster defensively.  Bottom 3 in the league.  You won't win many games that way.  I won't say they're a lock to be a bottom 3 team overall, but that roster is downright terrible.

And apparently Foye will miss the game tomorrow with a mild hamstring strain.  LeVert is rehabbing.
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: positivitize on October 25, 2016, 09:43:28 PM
this is the Brooklyn nets this year.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ry8CpIg2fvU
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: max215 on October 25, 2016, 09:44:41 PM
I think Jonathan Isaac winds up being a top 5 pick. This felt like an appropriate place for this (bold?) prediction.
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: Vox_Populi on October 25, 2016, 09:47:00 PM
Brooklyn are starting one player that didn't come off the bench last season. I guess two if you count Hollis-Jefferson before he got hurt.

I expect them to trade Lopez at some point.
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: trickybilly on October 25, 2016, 11:35:09 PM
LOL at the Nets letting Jonathan Simmons through their fingers
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: saltlover on October 25, 2016, 11:39:42 PM
LOL at the Nets letting Jonathan Simmons through their fingers

Ironically, Sean Marks was the guy in San Antonio who found him.
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: ReadyFor17 on October 26, 2016, 10:27:38 AM
Lopez is going to be traded. It would be nonsensical for them to keep him when there is no way they max him after next season (unless they wish to continue as one of the most poorly run teams in sport). No reason for the Celtics to massively overpay, it's a move Brooklyn has to make, and the next best offer would be something like a late first or two from a team whose picks are guaranteed to be in the 20s.

Still not sure why we'd be interested in the player anyway. Doesn't improve our rebounding or provide even close to the dominant paint presence we're looking for. Meanwhile he's going to preside over another 20-something win season. Hard pass.
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: mef730 on October 26, 2016, 03:24:24 PM
Lopez is going to be traded. It would be nonsensical for them to keep him when there is no way they max him after next season (unless they wish to continue as one of the most poorly run teams in sport). No reason for the Celtics to massively overpay, it's a move Brooklyn has to make, and the next best offer would be something like a late first or two from a team whose picks are guaranteed to be in the 20s.

Still not sure why we'd be interested in the player anyway. Doesn't improve our rebounding or provide even close to the dominant paint presence we're looking for. Meanwhile he's going to preside over another 20-something win season. Hard pass.

Agree. He doesn't push us over the top. I'm not giving up a key 1st for him. Maybe our own 2018 and a few other pieces.

My guess is that they could get a better haul for him at the trade deadline than they could today (even though he will be down from 2 years to 1.5), since some team will be desperate, but do they want to risk an injury before that time, which would get them nothing?

Mike
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: TheSundanceKid on October 27, 2016, 11:52:18 AM
Lopez is going to be traded. It would be nonsensical for them to keep him when there is no way they max him after next season (unless they wish to continue as one of the most poorly run teams in sport). No reason for the Celtics to massively overpay, it's a move Brooklyn has to make, and the next best offer would be something like a late first or two from a team whose picks are guaranteed to be in the 20s.

Still not sure why we'd be interested in the player anyway. Doesn't improve our rebounding or provide even close to the dominant paint presence we're looking for. Meanwhile he's going to preside over another 20-something win season. Hard pass.

Agree. He doesn't push us over the top. I'm not giving up a key 1st for him. Maybe our own 2018 and a few other pieces.

My guess is that they could get a better haul for him at the trade deadline than they could today (even though he will be down from 2 years to 1.5), since some team will be desperate, but do they want to risk an injury before that time, which would get them nothing?

Mike

That's the conundrum! I think they should wait though. He seems to be handling his body better now. More so than that it is important for the Nets to not look deeper (even if they are). Leverage will be key for them.

I can certainly see some teams giving up a reasonably good player in return. Someone like Kanter from OKC for example.

I wouldn't want him on this team though, not mobile enough for our system and not good enough to change it
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: Denis998 on October 28, 2016, 09:54:31 PM
Well then...Pacers were just obliterated in the 4th quarter by the nets. In a similar fashion to how they came back against us.
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: A Future of Stevens on October 28, 2016, 09:55:51 PM
So the team most analysts have predicted would be better than us just got destroyed at the end by the worst team in the league. Are we allowed to panick yet or what?
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: libermaniac on October 28, 2016, 10:04:23 PM
So the team most analysts have predicted would be better than us just got destroyed at the end by the worst team in the league. Are we allowed to panick yet or what?
I guess it's ok to be concerned.  They've certainly looked good these first two games.  But, let's see what happens as teams stop overlooking them and prepare for their style of play, etc..

Their roster is still horrible on paper, so we still have to hope.
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: footey on October 28, 2016, 10:04:54 PM
Nets not bad. Jeremy Lin a solid leader. Very smart player.
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: alldaboston on October 28, 2016, 10:06:58 PM
I'm all in on trading the pick. They're better than expected. Some of the top prospects seem injury prone (even though Tatum ended up just having a sprain), and there's a ton of guards. We don't need more guards.

2017 pick + Smart/Rozier + 2018 Celtics pick. The baseline for a Boogie trade. Let's get it done.
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: SCeltic34 on October 28, 2016, 10:08:42 PM
The Pacers put together a pathetic 4th quarter.  Similar to ours, but theirs was for basically the entire quarter.  The bench sputtered, didn't score a field goal for over 5 minutes, then the starters were equally as flat when they came back in.  No ball movement.

I'm disappointed with Paul George.  He's far too comfortable settling for outside shots.  He's far too long, skilled, and athletic to be jacking up all those 3's.

Overall I'm not worried about it.  The Nets are still going to suck.

Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: mef730 on October 28, 2016, 10:10:58 PM
I hate Indiana.

Mike
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: fantankerous on October 28, 2016, 10:11:32 PM
Nets are going to make the playoffs.
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: Vox_Populi on October 28, 2016, 10:11:47 PM
So the team most analysts have predicted would be better than us just got destroyed at the end by the worst team in the league. Are we allowed to panick yet or what?
Which analysts said the Pacers would be better? ESPN, 538, Nylon Calculus, Vegas odds, all have the Celtics as the better team.

Looks like I'll be avoiding this thread until around February.
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: SHAQATTACK on October 28, 2016, 10:16:29 PM
So the team most analysts have predicted would be better than us just got destroyed at the end by the worst team in the league. Are we allowed to panick yet or what?
Which analysts said the Pacers would be better? ESPN, 538, Nylon Calculus, Vegas odds, all have the Celtics as the better team.

Looks like I'll be avoiding this thread until around February.

I think Sir Charles and his gang last night on TNT
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: LarBrd33 on October 28, 2016, 10:19:46 PM
A healthy nets team has always been a concern.  Need them to get decimated by injuries like last year.
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: LarBrd33 on October 28, 2016, 10:22:21 PM
You know it's time to panic, because eddie20 finally removed my warning about Brooklyn from his fanboy signature.  Even he's worried.
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: alldaboston on October 28, 2016, 10:30:32 PM
A healthy nets team has always been a concern.  Need them to get decimated by injuries like last year.

I don't think it's so much the health (it mattered, don't get me wrong, but it wasn't that big of an issue) as it is the personnel and the coaching changes. Atkinson has them playing hard and tough. Lin is huge for them. The dude nearly had a 20-10-10 triple double! Thad Young's departure might have been a blessing in disguise, as they now can have some stretch bigs who can shoot the 3 ball. They're not good at it lol, but it's clearly a shift in offensive philosophy when even Brook Lopez is shooting 3s.

Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: PhoSita on October 28, 2016, 10:35:03 PM
So the team most analysts have predicted would be better than us just got destroyed at the end by the worst team in the league. Are we allowed to panick yet or what?

The Pacers aren't actually very good.  They're gonna be around .500 all year.

I'm pretty sure the Celts will be a lot better than that.


The Nets ... are going to be competitive-ish as long as their main guys are healthy.  Their bench is inexperienced and very not-good.  But Lin is a real NBA point guard.  Lopez is a nice NBA center.  Some of those other guys have real NBA skills.  They'll hang around in more games than we'd like.
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: A Future of Stevens on October 28, 2016, 10:40:33 PM
So the team most analysts have predicted would be better than us just got destroyed at the end by the worst team in the league. Are we allowed to panick yet or what?

The Pacers aren't actually very good.  They're gonna be around .500 all year.

I'm pretty sure the Celts will be a lot better than that.


The Nets ... are going to be competitive-ish as long as their main guys are healthy.  Their bench is inexperienced and very not-good.  But Lin is a real NBA point guard.  Lopez is a nice NBA center.  Some of those other guys have real NBA skills.  They'll hang around in more games than we'd like.

Yea I know. This post was half made in jest, and half in happiness/horror that BRK might not be as bad as predicted, and that IND might not be as good either
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: jpotter33 on October 28, 2016, 10:49:34 PM
I'm kind of glad about this for two reasons: 1) people can calm down about our loss the other night, and 2) it shows that the Pacers are not this near superteam that some are claiming them to be.
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: alldaboston on October 28, 2016, 10:51:59 PM
I'm kind of glad about this for two reasons: 1) people can calm down about our loss the other night, and 2) it shows that the Pacers are not this near superteam that some are claiming them to be.

Excellent. Completely agree with you. It's definitely calmed me down. I was one of those who was very scared of the Pacers. Of course, they have a much tougher time trying to integrate their new pieces, but it's still made me realize that these kinds of things take time to adjust to. Horford isn't gonna come in and be an All Star immediately. It'll take time. As long as we're ready when it comes to playoff time, I'm good.
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: SuddenFame on October 29, 2016, 05:23:11 PM
You know it's time to panic, because eddie20 finally removed my warning about Brooklyn from his fanboy signature.  Even he's worried.
Lol ... Imo, anyone who thinks this Net team is a top three lottery pick is straight outta their mind.
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: BitterJim on October 29, 2016, 05:42:23 PM
You know it's time to panic, because eddie20 finally removed my warning about Brooklyn from his fanboy signature.  Even he's worried.
Lol ... Imo, anyone who thinks this Net team is a top three lottery pick is straight outta their mind.

It's too early to say that.  An injury to Lin would make them easily the worst team in the league.  It's way too early to say where the Nets are gonna finish
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: csfansince60s on October 29, 2016, 05:46:21 PM
You know it's time to panic, because eddie20 finally removed my warning about Brooklyn from his fanboy signature.  Even he's worried.
Lol ... Imo, anyone who thinks this Net team is a top three lottery pick is straight outta their mind.

It's too early to say that.  An injury to Lin would make them easily the worst team in the league.  It's way too early to say where the Nets are gonna finish

Also, it likes like that they will be without Lopez for at least 14 games this season. This from an SB Nation article:

Quote
one league source tells NetsDaily Lopez is unlikely to play in any second game of back-to-back’s this season. That’s 14 games.

http://www.netsdaily.com/2016/10/29/13463736/brooklyn-nets-take-a-trip-to-milwaukee-bucks-mirza-teletovic-trevor-booker#comments

They snuck up on the Pacers, just like they did to us at the end. They got taken lightly. They'll be a bottom 5 team.
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: JBcat on October 29, 2016, 06:08:48 PM
Just read that B Lopez is out tonight to "rest".  Looks like he will be sitting out on the back end of back to back games this year (think that's 14 games). 

Good news for us.
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: mr. dee on October 29, 2016, 09:44:34 PM
Please Bucks don't let it slip up
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: SCeltic34 on October 29, 2016, 09:52:39 PM
You know it's time to panic, because eddie20 finally removed my warning about Brooklyn from his fanboy signature.  Even he's worried.
Lol ... Imo, anyone who thinks this Net team is a top three lottery pick is straight outta their mind.

It's too early to say that.  An injury to Lin would make them easily the worst team in the league.  It's way too early to say where the Nets are gonna finish

Also, it likes like that they will be without Lopez for at least 14 games this season. This from an SB Nation article:

Quote
one league source tells NetsDaily Lopez is unlikely to play in any second game of back-to-back’s this season. That’s 14 games.

http://www.netsdaily.com/2016/10/29/13463736/brooklyn-nets-take-a-trip-to-milwaukee-bucks-mirza-teletovic-trevor-booker#comments

They snuck up on the Pacers, just like they did to us at the end. They got taken lightly. They'll be a bottom 5 team.

That's huge if it's true.  Brook had a terrible first game this season against us, but last season the Nets were absolutely horrid without him on the floor.  Without his presence they probably would have won 12-14 games.

Meanwhile the Pacers who lost pitifully against the Nets last night are getting slaughtered by the Bulls.
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: LarBrd33 on October 29, 2016, 09:54:53 PM
Just read that B Lopez is out tonight to "rest".  Looks like he will be sitting out on the back end of back to back games this year (think that's 14 games). 

Good news for us.
That's not how I read it.  Apparently he has occassionally sat out back end of back-to-back games in the past.  There's been no new injury or anything that I'm aware of so it's probably not going to be anything different this year than in the past.

Tonight was probably more a reaction to 3 games in 4 nights.  He played yesterday (Friday) and also two days before that (Wednesday).   They are also scheduled to play on Monday.   Rest tonight makes some sense.
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: mef730 on October 29, 2016, 09:59:17 PM
BKN on the 2nd night of a BtB, no Lopez and yet Milwaukee is only up by 4.

Mike
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: SCeltic34 on October 29, 2016, 09:59:49 PM
Just read that B Lopez is out tonight to "rest".  Looks like he will be sitting out on the back end of back to back games this year (think that's 14 games). 

Good news for us.
That's not how I read it.  Apparently he has occassionally sat out back end of back-to-back games in the past.  There's been no new injury or anything that I'm aware of so it's probably not going to be anything different this year than in the past.

Tonight was probably more a reaction to 3 games in 4 nights.  He played yesterday (Friday) and also two days before that (Wednesday).   They are also scheduled to play on Monday.   Rest tonight makes some sense.

Resting a healthy player on the 3rd game of the season is practically unheard of, even if it's a back to back. 

He played in back to backs last season, until he was shut down towards the end.
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: TrueFan on October 29, 2016, 10:01:56 PM
BKN on the 2nd night of a BtB, no Lopez and yet Milwaukee is only up by 4.

Mike
The Bucks look terrible so far this year.
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: SCeltic34 on October 29, 2016, 10:03:34 PM
BKN on the 2nd night of a BtB, no Lopez and yet Milwaukee is only up by 4.

Mike
The Bucks look terrible so far this year.

They look like a complete joke.  In just the last two possessions they left a player completely unguarded.
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: MJohnnyboy on October 29, 2016, 10:05:45 PM
The only reason why the Nets look good is because their roster is full of unknowns which means no game film which means no one knows how to game plan for them. Once teams know how to cover the likes of Justin Hamilton and Sean Kilpatrick, the Nets will fall back to earth.
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: Surferdad on October 29, 2016, 10:06:54 PM
Just read that B Lopez is out tonight to "rest".  Looks like he will be sitting out on the back end of back to back games this year (think that's 14 games). 

Good news for us.
That's not how I read it.  Apparently he has occassionally sat out back end of back-to-back games in the past.  There's been no new injury or anything that I'm aware of so it's probably not going to be anything different this year than in the past.

Tonight was probably more a reaction to 3 games in 4 nights.  He played yesterday (Friday) and also two days before that (Wednesday).   They are also scheduled to play on Monday.   Rest tonight makes some sense.

Resting a healthy player on the 3rd game of the season is practically unheard of, even if it's a back to back. 


He played in back to backs last season, until he was shut down towards the end.
I heard Pops rested Parker and Ginobilli on their home opener.   
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: mef730 on October 29, 2016, 10:07:24 PM
That may all be true, but this is not the bottom 3 bkn team that so many of us, myself included, believed they would be. They shouldn't have lost to Indy and Milwaukee should have beaten them easily tonight.

Mike
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: MJohnnyboy on October 29, 2016, 10:09:09 PM
That may all be true, but this is not the bottom 3 bkn team that so many of us, myself included, believed they would be. They shouldn't have lost to Indy and Milwaukee should have beaten them easily tonight.

Mike

It's also possible Indiana and Milwaukee aren't that good.
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: SCeltic34 on October 29, 2016, 10:17:41 PM
Just read that B Lopez is out tonight to "rest".  Looks like he will be sitting out on the back end of back to back games this year (think that's 14 games). 

Good news for us.
That's not how I read it.  Apparently he has occassionally sat out back end of back-to-back games in the past.  There's been no new injury or anything that I'm aware of so it's probably not going to be anything different this year than in the past.

Tonight was probably more a reaction to 3 games in 4 nights.  He played yesterday (Friday) and also two days before that (Wednesday).   They are also scheduled to play on Monday.   Rest tonight makes some sense.

Resting a healthy player on the 3rd game of the season is practically unheard of, even if it's a back to back. 


He played in back to backs last season, until he was shut down towards the end.
I heard Pops rested Parker and Ginobilli on their home opener.

Was that last year?  They both played against the Kings on their home opener this year.

Still extremely uncommon.
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: LarBrd33 on October 29, 2016, 10:25:11 PM
phew
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: SHAQATTACK on October 29, 2016, 10:25:11 PM
Suck n Bucks can t put away Nets ...Parker has layup blocked ...smh

Wow ...that was close ....ugh

Bucks at home struggling
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: mef730 on October 29, 2016, 10:25:30 PM
Whew. BKN comes all the way back and Milwaukee wins on a last-second tip.

Mike
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: SCeltic34 on October 29, 2016, 10:26:51 PM
The Nets have outplayed all 3 of their opponents handily in the 4th quarter.  They deserve credit.

But the Bucks looked really bad on defense.  There were so many defensive breakdowns that really reflects poorly on their coaching.  Should never have been a close game with Brook Lopez out.  They have a lot of tape to watch.
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: Phantom255x on October 29, 2016, 10:28:13 PM
Good lord are the Nets actually going to be a good team this season?

Good thing this draft is DEEP even between picks 5-10... But man it would have been so much better to get a pick between 1-3. Might have to hope the Sixers, Lakers, Pelicans and Suns exceed some expectations and play better than last season. Otherwise Nets pick might end up outside top-5...
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: SHAQATTACK on October 29, 2016, 10:29:27 PM
I'm giving most of the credit to the coach ....he has them  playing ball the right way . That Hamilton is a decent center ...

We got Zeller ...gag
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: SHAQATTACK on October 29, 2016, 10:31:49 PM
Good lord are the Nets actually going to be a good team this season?

Good thing this draft is DEEP even between picks 5-10... But man it would have been so much better to get a pick between 1-3. Might have to hope the Sixers, Lakers, Pelicans and Suns exceed some expectations and play better than last season. Otherwise Nets pick might end up outside top-5...

Suns are just bad.

Philly can t play worth crap without Simmons .

I think Lakers move up in wins , maybe just outside playoffs.
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: LarBrd33 on October 29, 2016, 10:32:07 PM
Just read that B Lopez is out tonight to "rest".  Looks like he will be sitting out on the back end of back to back games this year (think that's 14 games). 

Good news for us.
That's not how I read it.  Apparently he has occassionally sat out back end of back-to-back games in the past.  There's been no new injury or anything that I'm aware of so it's probably not going to be anything different this year than in the past.

Tonight was probably more a reaction to 3 games in 4 nights.  He played yesterday (Friday) and also two days before that (Wednesday).   They are also scheduled to play on Monday.   Rest tonight makes some sense.

Resting a healthy player on the 3rd game of the season is practically unheard of, even if it's a back to back. 

He played in back to backs last season, until he was shut down towards the end.
He sat a random back-to-back with rest last season in early March as well.   My point is that this isn't some new approach where they are holding him out of all back-to-backs.  This is a guy who had significant injury history, but was able to play 73 games last year and 72 games the year before.  Over teh past couple years, he's been less injury prone than Marcus Smart.

Here's the explanation for him missing the game tonight (that they nearly won without him):

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"What we're trying to do with Brook is take the long-term approach, just build him up as the season goes on and increase his minutes. We have a plan in place," Atkinson said. "It's learning the system, it's looking at a long-term approach to how we're going to build him up in terms of minutes as the season goes on. He's got some miles on him."

All I'm saying is don't suggest that Lopez is now sitting out of all back-to-backs based on one game.

Brooklyn is still scary.  As long as Lopez is healthy and they are getting some additional contributions from guys like Lin (something they didn't have last year as their entire team was decimated with injuries), they can play themselves out of the bottom 5.
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: Celtic_Pride777 on October 29, 2016, 10:37:39 PM
At the rate they're playing, Nets might play themselves out of the Bottom 5 teams.

Not sure how much the Brooklyn pick will worth by then....though it might have some trade value nonetheless
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: Denis998 on October 29, 2016, 10:40:43 PM
I think their bench is underestimated by other teams. Thats the group that seems to keep the games close in the 4th quarter.
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: jpotter33 on October 29, 2016, 10:52:34 PM
The Nets have outplayed all 3 of their opponents handily in the 4th quarter.  They deserve credit.

But the Bucks looked really bad on defense.  There were so many defensive breakdowns that really reflects poorly on their coaching.  Should never have been a close game with Brook Lopez out.  They have a lot of tape to watch.

I'm starting to think that they're actually better without Lopez in there. He was hardly even noticeable against us.
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: SCeltic34 on October 29, 2016, 11:58:13 PM
Just read that B Lopez is out tonight to "rest".  Looks like he will be sitting out on the back end of back to back games this year (think that's 14 games). 

Good news for us.
That's not how I read it.  Apparently he has occassionally sat out back end of back-to-back games in the past.  There's been no new injury or anything that I'm aware of so it's probably not going to be anything different this year than in the past.

Tonight was probably more a reaction to 3 games in 4 nights.  He played yesterday (Friday) and also two days before that (Wednesday).   They are also scheduled to play on Monday.   Rest tonight makes some sense.

Resting a healthy player on the 3rd game of the season is practically unheard of, even if it's a back to back. 

He played in back to backs last season, until he was shut down towards the end.
He sat a random back-to-back with rest last season in early March as well.   My point is that this isn't some new approach where they are holding him out of all back-to-backs.  This is a guy who had significant injury history, but was able to play 73 games last year and 72 games the year before.  Over teh past couple years, he's been less injury prone than Marcus Smart.

Here's the explanation for him missing the game tonight (that they nearly won without him):

Quote
"What we're trying to do with Brook is take the long-term approach, just build him up as the season goes on and increase his minutes. We have a plan in place," Atkinson said. "It's learning the system, it's looking at a long-term approach to how we're going to build him up in terms of minutes as the season goes on. He's got some miles on him."

All I'm saying is don't suggest that Lopez is now sitting out of all back-to-backs based on one game.

Brooklyn is still scary. As long as Lopez is healthy and they are getting some additional contributions from guys like Lin (something they didn't have last year as their entire team was decimated with injuries), they can play themselves out of the bottom 5.

March is towards the end of the season, not the 3rd game in October.  I'd actually agree with the Nets approach though - it makes far more sense to preserve Lopez's health.  He's the only major trade chip they have, and the only chance they have of salvaging a 20-25 win season if they hang on to him.

To say that Brooklyn is scary is hyperbole at best.  They do look better than last year - through 3 games.  They're more aggressive and the ball moves better.   Doesn't mean they're a decent team.  They lack what wins in the NBA, which is upper echelon talent.  Not even Popovich could coach that team to a .500 record.

It's only 2 or 3 games.  As an example of overreactions to a small sample size - the worst defensive team in the league through 2 or 3 games, per defensive rating (points allowed per 100 possessions) is the Golden State Warriors at 112.7 rating.  Yet they're widely considered to be the favorite to win it all.

I'm confident that Brooklyn will remain a bottom 5 team in the league.
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: Celtic_Pride777 on October 30, 2016, 12:47:11 AM
Just read that B Lopez is out tonight to "rest".  Looks like he will be sitting out on the back end of back to back games this year (think that's 14 games). 

Good news for us.
That's not how I read it.  Apparently he has occassionally sat out back end of back-to-back games in the past.  There's been no new injury or anything that I'm aware of so it's probably not going to be anything different this year than in the past.

Tonight was probably more a reaction to 3 games in 4 nights.  He played yesterday (Friday) and also two days before that (Wednesday).   They are also scheduled to play on Monday.   Rest tonight makes some sense.

Resting a healthy player on the 3rd game of the season is practically unheard of, even if it's a back to back. 

He played in back to backs last season, until he was shut down towards the end.
He sat a random back-to-back with rest last season in early March as well.   My point is that this isn't some new approach where they are holding him out of all back-to-backs.  This is a guy who had significant injury history, but was able to play 73 games last year and 72 games the year before.  Over teh past couple years, he's been less injury prone than Marcus Smart.

Here's the explanation for him missing the game tonight (that they nearly won without him):

Quote
"What we're trying to do with Brook is take the long-term approach, just build him up as the season goes on and increase his minutes. We have a plan in place," Atkinson said. "It's learning the system, it's looking at a long-term approach to how we're going to build him up in terms of minutes as the season goes on. He's got some miles on him."

All I'm saying is don't suggest that Lopez is now sitting out of all back-to-backs based on one game.

Brooklyn is still scary. As long as Lopez is healthy and they are getting some additional contributions from guys like Lin (something they didn't have last year as their entire team was decimated with injuries), they can play themselves out of the bottom 5.

March is towards the end of the season, not the 3rd game in October.  I'd actually agree with the Nets approach though - it makes far more sense to preserve Lopez's health.  He's the only major trade chip they have, and the only chance they have of salvaging a 20-25 win season if they hang on to him.

To say that Brooklyn is scary is hyperbole at best.  They do look better than last year - through 3 games.  They're more aggressive and the ball moves better.   Doesn't mean they're a decent team.  They lack what wins in the NBA, which is upper echelon talent.  Not even Popovich could coach that team to a .500 record.

It's only 2 or 3 games.  As an example of overreactions to a small sample size - the worst defensive team in the league through 2 or 3 games, per defensive rating (points allowed per 100 possessions) is the Golden State Warriors at 112.7 rating.  Yet they're widely considered to be the favorite to win it all.

I'm confident that Brooklyn will remain a bottom 5 team in the league.

TP. I hope you're right SCeltic34. When it comes to the NBA, the difference between a player drafted in the Top 5, versues one drafted in the Top 10, can be quite significant.
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: trickybilly on October 30, 2016, 05:06:11 AM
Unbelievable. Nets resting Lopez and Foye in a winnable game against Milwaukee. I mean, yeah, cool, good one, rest em up guys....
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: SuddenFame on October 30, 2016, 04:13:52 PM
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"I'd actually agree with the Nets approach though - it makes far more sense to preserve Lopez's health.  He's the only major trade chip they have"

 
How will this strategy help Lopez's trade value?  Having him ride the pine or not even suit up at all will only decrease his trade value and further the notion that he's fragile or not healthy at all.  The guy is 28, not 38. Tim Duncan played more games in his late thirties than this guy does.  He's clearly not 100% if they're doing this....
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: SCeltic34 on October 30, 2016, 05:35:39 PM
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"I'd actually agree with the Nets approach though - it makes far more sense to preserve Lopez's health.  He's the only major trade chip they have"

 
How will this strategy help Lopez's trade value?  Having him ride the pine or not even suit up at all will only decrease his trade value and further the notion that he's fragile or not healthy at all.  The guy is 28, not 38. Tim Duncan played more games in his late thirties than this guy does.  He's clearly not 100% if they're doing this....

Completely disagree.  He's a veteran center in the NBA.  GMs and coaches around the league know his game and what he brings to the table.  Having him sit out doesn't diminish his value.  As is, his value is enough to get the Nets multiple picks, probably a combination of 1st and 2nd rounders, and possibly some young players to add to their rebuild.

On the other hand, if he does suffer a long-term injury, especially to his foot that has been problematic in the past, he basically loses all value and won't fetch the Nets much at all.  That's why they shut him down towards the end of last season.  It doesn't make sense to risk his health since they're not even going to make the playoffs this year.  Even the Nets management has said that wins are not the goal of this season.
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: SuddenFame on October 31, 2016, 05:02:31 AM
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Completely disagree.  He's a veteran center in the NBA.  GMs and coaches around the league know his game and what he brings to the table.  Having him sit out doesn't diminish his value.  As is, his value is enough to get the Nets multiple picks, probably a combination of 1st and 2nd rounders, and possibly some young players to add to their rebuild.

On the other hand, if he does suffer a long-term injury, especially to his foot that has been problematic in the past, he basically loses all value and won't fetch the Nets much at all.  That's why they shut him down towards the end of last season.  It doesn't make sense to risk his health since they're not even going to make the playoffs this year.  Even the Nets management has said that wins are not the goal of this season.

Yeah, vehemently disagree with your entire post & premise.

*No way riding the bench doesn't diminish his value.  It doesn't look good to other gm's.
*There's no way Lopez fetches a basket of picks and players.  They'll get one first round pick, teens to late lottery (8 and upwards), that's if he's 100% healthy.  No one is going to give up the farm for a slow seven footer with an injury history who is not a rim protector.
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: TheSundanceKid on October 31, 2016, 05:39:43 AM
The Nets seem to have come out with a lot of intensity. I expect them to get some early wins. However as the season goes on and teams start to settle into a rhythm I would think the Nets will start to slip. They are playing great right now but I think they have managed to hit a groove sooner than most, I don't think they have an extra gear or two. Other teams do and will start to improve. So as the season goes on the loss streaks will increase and the wins become rarer.

Gotta admire the way they play though, reminds me of us in Brad's first year
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: SCeltic34 on October 31, 2016, 09:43:11 AM
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Completely disagree.  He's a veteran center in the NBA.  GMs and coaches around the league know his game and what he brings to the table.  Having him sit out doesn't diminish his value.  As is, his value is enough to get the Nets multiple picks, probably a combination of 1st and 2nd rounders, and possibly some young players to add to their rebuild.

On the other hand, if he does suffer a long-term injury, especially to his foot that has been problematic in the past, he basically loses all value and won't fetch the Nets much at all.  That's why they shut him down towards the end of last season.  It doesn't make sense to risk his health since they're not even going to make the playoffs this year.  Even the Nets management has said that wins are not the goal of this season.

Yeah, vehemently disagree with your entire post & premise.

*No way riding the bench doesn't diminish his value.  It doesn't look good to other gm's.
*There's no way Lopez fetches a basket of picks and players.  They'll get one first round pick, teens to late lottery (8 and upwards), that's if he's 100% healthy.  No one is going to give up the farm for a slow seven footer with an injury history who is not a rim protector.

I might have been more inclined to agree with you last season, since lots of people were concerned about his foot.  He played the vast majority of games however, including in back to backs and multiple games with heavy minutes.  There was in fact a report that he was having foot pain early last season as well.  He went on to play in the very next game.  As far as we can tell, he's fully healthy since his return last season.

Resting in a back to back to preserve health (in the Nets case, they're being extra cautious) doesn't diminish the value of an established player.

Nowhere did I state that Lopez would fetch "the farm".  He could definitely fetch at least a 1st and some 2nd rounders or some young prospects, particularly for a team that needs a last scoring piece to round out their roster.  He has his deficiencies but he's a very good piece on offense.  He's a pretty decent shotblocker by the way, at 1.7 BPG for his career.  It's his lack of mobility on the perimeter that concerns me defensively.
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: chambers on October 31, 2016, 08:41:09 PM
Bulls are torching the Nets at half time. 21 point lead.
Jeremy Lin gets his stats but the team suffers.
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: MJohnnyboy on October 31, 2016, 09:11:47 PM
Nets are starting to fall back to earth but they have been a good 4th quarter team.
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: max215 on October 31, 2016, 09:27:14 PM
It's become evident that the Nets will live and die by the three. Luckily for us, their roster is comprised of pretty crappy shooters.
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: jpotter33 on October 31, 2016, 09:31:12 PM
It's become evident that the Nets will live and die by the three. Luckily for us, their roster is comprised of pretty crappy shooters.

I keep saying it - but they're the Charlotte Hornets without the defense. There's going to be nights that they are kept in the game by their threeball, but they're going to shoot themselves out of games most nights. They just don't have the personnel, largely like the Hornets, to play that sort of way. I'm still surprised that Charlotte has won so many games with that terrible type of offense, though they're greatly helped by the iso abilities of Batum and Walker.
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: SHAQATTACK on October 31, 2016, 09:31:33 PM
Bulls will be  undefeated Wednesday

Show down in Boston
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: Denis998 on October 31, 2016, 09:42:47 PM
Finally a good loss we can celebrate.
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: guava_wrench on October 31, 2016, 10:05:14 PM
Nets are starting to fall back to earth but they have been a good 4th quarter team.
A 1-2 team falling back to earth? That bodes well for our pick.
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: hwangjini_1 on October 31, 2016, 10:21:49 PM
Nets are starting to fall back to earth but they have been a good 4th quarter team.
Not tonight. ;D
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: knuckleballer on October 31, 2016, 10:29:17 PM
1 win, 3 losses.  Couldn't ask for much more.
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: max215 on October 31, 2016, 10:51:53 PM
It's become evident that the Nets will live and die by the three. Luckily for us, their roster is comprised of pretty crappy shooters.

I keep saying it - but they're the Charlotte Hornets without the defense. There's going to be nights that they are kept in the game by their threeball, but they're going to shoot themselves out of games most nights. They just don't have the personnel, largely like the Hornets, to play that sort of way. I'm still surprised that Charlotte has won so many games with that terrible type of offense, though they're greatly helped by the iso abilities of Batum and Walker.

I'm not sure that's an apt comparison. Charlotte shot a ton of threes last year (4th most), but shot them well (8th in 3P%). What Brooklyn is is our offense from last year: crazy volume, terrible percentage. Except they're coupling that with horrible defense, which is not exactly a recipe for success.
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: alldaboston on October 31, 2016, 11:09:15 PM
I get that it was against the Nets, but these bulls look pretty good...it would be so nice to blow them out on Wednesday and shut up all the bulls fans who think their team is actually a serious contender now
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: trickybilly on November 01, 2016, 12:01:16 AM
I hear the trade a comin'
It's rollin round the bend
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: jpotter33 on November 01, 2016, 01:16:56 AM
It's become evident that the Nets will live and die by the three. Luckily for us, their roster is comprised of pretty crappy shooters.

I keep saying it - but they're the Charlotte Hornets without the defense. There's going to be nights that they are kept in the game by their threeball, but they're going to shoot themselves out of games most nights. They just don't have the personnel, largely like the Hornets, to play that sort of way. I'm still surprised that Charlotte has won so many games with that terrible type of offense, though they're greatly helped by the iso abilities of Batum and Walker.

I'm not sure that's an apt comparison. Charlotte shot a ton of threes last year (4th most), but shot them well (8th in 3P%). What Brooklyn is is our offense from last year: crazy volume, terrible percentage. Except they're coupling that with horrible defense, which is not exactly a recipe for success.

Hmm, I would've never guessed that they were 8th in 3P% last year. Virtually every single time that I watched them, which admittedly was only a handful of times outside of our games against them, they would shoot themselves out of games due to the God-awful three point shots they would take and miss.

Last year we took some bad threes, but I thought Charlotte was way worse and more frequent with their bad three point attempts. We took a lot, but I didn't think a significant percentage of them were actually "bad" shots. But now that I think about it, they do actually have a better roster for that kind of style than I thought - Walker, Lee, Batum, Williams, and Lin were all average to above average (and elite in the case of Williams) three point shooters at their position.

EDIT: And speaking of the Nets, they're leading the league right now with 37.3 three point attempts per game  :o That's 5.5 more than the league-leading Warriors from last season!
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: GC003332 on November 01, 2016, 03:08:34 AM
I look forward to reading Chad Ford's Draft Tiers in regard to next years draft with the way the Nets will perform this season, it will be wonderful.
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: celticon on November 01, 2016, 06:44:21 AM
Two wins in the last ten matches is a bad sign, especially in the begining of the season with three straight losses to the celtics.
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: celticsclay on November 02, 2016, 01:25:10 PM
Hopefully the Nets get a solid home loss tonight to drop to 1-4. This would be a really bad one for them to win as they are have easier games following this at home against an underwelming Charlotte team and Minnesota. If they somehow got to 1-7 I would be very excited. I fear that 2-6 maybe more likely or possibly even 3-5
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: SCeltic34 on November 02, 2016, 08:41:30 PM
The NBA is a strange league.  After scoring 88 points total against the Bulls 2 nights ago, Brooklyn puts up 71 points on 71%(!) shooting against Detroit in the 1st half.  Combination of terrible Detroit defense and the Nets making everything they throw at the basket. 
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: SuddenFame on November 02, 2016, 11:55:33 PM
And people laughed when I said 35-40 wins.  That pick is gonna be worthless.... :(
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: LarBrd33 on November 02, 2016, 11:57:57 PM
And people laughed when I said 35-40 wins.  That pick is gonna be worthless.... :(
barring injury they can be much better than expected.
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: SuddenFame on November 03, 2016, 12:11:53 AM
Exactly, and if guys like RHJ get his shooting stroke figured-out, all bets are off. 
For example, people were giving Jeremy Lin grief the other night because of his lack of assists against the Bulls.  He made a LOT of good passes to open Net players, but they were bricklayers all night. How's that on him, he did his job.  One of the passes Hamilton fumbled away but Lin was charged with the turnover.  Lin can't do everything for them.
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: LarBrd33 on November 03, 2016, 12:13:11 AM
The NBA is a strange league.  After scoring 88 points total against the Bulls 2 nights ago, Brooklyn puts up 71 points on 71%(!) shooting against Detroit in the 1st half.  Combination of terrible Detroit defense and the Nets making everything they throw at the basket.
brook Lopez showed up
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: SCeltic34 on November 03, 2016, 12:21:18 AM
The NBA is a strange league.  After scoring 88 points total against the Bulls 2 nights ago, Brooklyn puts up 71 points on 71%(!) shooting against Detroit in the 1st half.  Combination of terrible Detroit defense and the Nets making everything they throw at the basket.
brook Lopez showed up

They also regressed in the 2nd half, scoring only 38 points, 4 of which came in late game free throws from intentional fouls.  The 1st half was a fluke, but it was substantial enough to get them the win.

And people laughed when I said 35-40 wins.  That pick is gonna be worthless.... :(

Some people came out with this doom and gloom prediction last season too.  They were way off.  The Nets look better this year so far, but it's still very early and I'd argue that 35 wins is a stretch.

I also didn't realize that lottery picks are worthless.  News to me.
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: SCeltic34 on November 03, 2016, 12:26:09 AM
Exactly, and if guys like RHJ get his shooting stroke figured-out, all bets are off. 
For example, people were giving Jeremy Lin grief the other night because of his lack of assists against the Bulls.  He made a LOT of good passes to open Net players, but they were bricklayers all night. How's that on him, he did his job.  One of the passes Hamilton fumbled away but Lin was charged with the turnover.  Lin can't do everything for them.

Lin has looked really good so far.  Crafty player with a very solid offensive game.  Hate to root against him because he plays on the Nets.  He did leave the game with a hamstring strain today, but it didn't look bad.

As for RHJ, he's looked really bad offensively so far.  His shot is still really broken and other areas of his game are extremely underdeveloped.  He's basically limited to scoring as a slasher and on fast breaks.
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: SuddenFame on November 03, 2016, 06:30:05 AM

Some people came out with this doom and gloom prediction last season too.  They were way off.  The Nets look better this year so far, but it's still very early and I'd argue that 35 wins is a stretch.

Not sure what 'doom and gloom' you're talking about. The Nets started 0-9 last season, people all over New England were rejoicing that the C's actually had a shot at a transformative player like Ben Simmons.  At no point last season, did the Nets resemble anything but a dumpster fire, and we all knew they were a surefire top 5 pick once they were twenty games in.

Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: RockinRyA on November 03, 2016, 07:31:33 AM
And people laughed when I said 35-40 wins.  That pick is gonna be worthless.... :(

The Nets are 2-3, which equates to about 33 wins. Which is a top 10 pick last year. Given the depth of next years draft, how is that worthless?
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: GreenShooter on November 03, 2016, 07:36:53 AM
And people laughed when I said 35-40 wins.  That pick is gonna be worthless.... :(
barring injury they can be much better than expected.
They may be better than expected (I predicted a top 3 worse record) but they just won by 8 while shooting 58% from the floor and 48% from 3. That is not going to happen often, if at all, the rest of the season. Let' wait till December to roll around to see what they actually are as a team. They got a road trip coming up so hopefully they'll only win one game (either Phoenix or Lakers), if that, and plummet back to earth.
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: saltlover on November 03, 2016, 07:54:41 AM
And people laughed when I said 35-40 wins.  That pick is gonna be worthless.... :(

The Nets are 2-3, which equates to about 33 wins. Which is a top 10 pick last year. Given the depth of next years draft, how is that worthless?

Not to mention, yesterday they were on pace for 21 wins.  A single game throws "pace" off so early in the season.  They're not a good team.  Brook Lopez was 4-38 for his career shooting 3's before going 4-8 last night.  Congrats to him on a doubling his career total, but I'd bet he's not going to make 4 threes again in a game for his career.
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: TheSundanceKid on November 03, 2016, 08:05:23 AM

Some people came out with this doom and gloom prediction last season too.  They were way off.  The Nets look better this year so far, but it's still very early and I'd argue that 35 wins is a stretch.

Not sure what 'doom and gloom' you're talking about. The Nets started 0-9 last season, people all over New England were rejoicing that the C's actually had a shot at a transformative player like Ben Simmons.  At no point last season, did the Nets resemble anything but a dumpster fire, and we all knew they were a surefire top 5 pick once they were twenty games in.

Ultimately though it doesn't matter at what point in the season they win their games, only how many. The beginning of the season is more unpredictable than the middle and end. Some teams come in better prepared than others. What was clear even in preseason is that the Nets were on the same page early on, working hard for each other and remaining competitive. That will translate into early wins but once the other teams have ramped up the talent gap will start to matter more.

Someone compared it to the Philly team from a few years ago that started well and ended 15-67, the 2nd worst mark in the league.
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: SCeltic34 on November 03, 2016, 09:25:50 AM

Some people came out with this doom and gloom prediction last season too.  They were way off.  The Nets look better this year so far, but it's still very early and I'd argue that 35 wins is a stretch.

Not sure what 'doom and gloom' you're talking about. The Nets started 0-9 last season, people all over New England were rejoicing that the C's actually had a shot at a transformative player like Ben Simmons.  At no point last season, did the Nets resemble anything but a dumpster fire, and we all knew they were a surefire top 5 pick once they were twenty games in.

In other words, some people, both before and after their 0-9 start, kept persisting that the Nets would pick up steam and hit 35 wins.  And they did pick up steam.  Recall that they were one blown Brook Lopez layup away from defeating Golden State on their home turf.  After they picked up a few wins, there was some panicking around here and knee-jerk reactions just like yours, calling the pick "worthless" and urging Danny to trade it away.

They beat Detroit last night (it became a close game in the 4th even after the Nets had led by 21 points in the 3rd quarter) because of an aberration of a 1st half, where they shot 9-13 from 3,  with Lopez hitting 4 of 5, and 71% shooting overall.  That's extremely unlikely to happen again.

I'll be happy to eat crow if the Nets do hit 35 wins.  I just don't see it happening, despite their "good" 2-3 start.
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: SCeltic34 on November 03, 2016, 09:26:53 AM
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Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: hwangjini_1 on November 03, 2016, 10:27:55 AM

Some people came out with this doom and gloom prediction last season too.  They were way off.  The Nets look better this year so far, but it's still very early and I'd argue that 35 wins is a stretch.

Not sure what 'doom and gloom' you're talking about. The Nets started 0-9 last season, people all over New England were rejoicing that the C's actually had a shot at a transformative player like Ben Simmons.  At no point last season, did the Nets resemble anything but a dumpster fire, and we all knew they were a surefire top 5 pick once they were twenty games in.

In other words, some people, both before and after their 0-9 start, kept persisting that the Nets would pick up steam and hit 35 wins.  And they did pick up steam.  Recall that they were one blown Brook Lopez layup away from defeating Golden State on their home turf.  After they picked up a few wins, there was some panicking around here and knee-jerk reactions just like yours, calling the pick "worthless" and urging Danny to trade it away.

They beat Detroit last night (it became a close game in the 4th even after the Nets had led by 21 points in the 3rd quarter) because of an aberration of a 1st half, where they shot 9-13 from 3,  with Lopez hitting 4 of 5, and 71% shooting overall.  That's extremely unlikely to happen again.

I'll be happy to eat crow if the Nets do hit 35 wins.  I just don't see it happening, despite their "good" 2-3 start.
well stated SC34 so a tp is headed your way.

it is too soon to make any accurate or precise predictions, particularly based upon a single game filled with unusually high shooting percentages.

all in all, the nets dont seem to have much talent to start with. add to that that injuries and trades for a rebuild may very well occur and i dont see much to justify the nets doing well this year.

the possibility of a bad, bad season looms large for brooklyn. how bad? that is harder to say right now. but it will be fun to see those loses pile up as the season rolls along.
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: mef730 on November 03, 2016, 10:30:26 AM
Exactly, and if guys like RHJ get his shooting stroke figured-out, all bets are off. 
For example, people were giving Jeremy Lin grief the other night because of his lack of assists against the Bulls.  He made a LOT of good passes to open Net players, but they were bricklayers all night. How's that on him, he did his job.  One of the passes Hamilton fumbled away but Lin was charged with the turnover.  Lin can't do everything for them.

Lin has looked really good so far.  Crafty player with a very solid offensive game.  Hate to root against him because he plays on the Nets.  He did leave the game with a hamstring strain today, but it didn't look bad.

I saw he strained a hamstring but didn't see how bad it was (or wasn't). Fortunately for them, they only have three games in the next week, including a big gap from Friday to Tuesday. Same thing happened last year when Lopez had his foot scare. Right before a three day break.

Mike
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: LarBrd33 on November 03, 2016, 12:34:40 PM
And people laughed when I said 35-40 wins.  That pick is gonna be worthless.... :(

The Nets are 2-3, which equates to about 33 wins. Which is a top 10 pick last year. Given the depth of next years draft, how is that worthless?
boston is still searching for a superstar.  You wouldn't be likely to draft or trade for a superstar with a pick outside the top 5.
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: Quetzalcoatl on November 03, 2016, 12:43:06 PM
And people laughed when I said 35-40 wins.  That pick is gonna be worthless.... :(

The Nets are 2-3, which equates to about 33 wins. Which is a top 10 pick last year. Given the depth of next years draft, how is that worthless?
boston is still searching for a superstar.  You wouldn't be likely to draft or trade for a superstar with a pick outside the top 5.

It's the deepest draft in awhile, they're not making the playoffs or even getting close and if B. Lopez gets hurt, they're the worst team in the League.  Calm yourself, it's going to be be ok.
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: Vermont Green on November 03, 2016, 01:07:01 PM
I was bummed to hear that they beat Detroit.  I doubt they continue to be a 0.400 team (33 wins).  I feel like any pick in the top 5 is great considering the original trade, 6-10 OK, 11 or higher, disappointing (in no case worthless, diminishing yes but not worthless).

I have an idea to hedge our assets.  Trade the 2018 Nets pick back to them and maybe another future first round pick (even the Memphis one that is looking better all the time) and/or one of our current stashes plus Amir for Lopez.  Then they will likely be worse for the 2017 pick and can tank one more year and go for gold in 2018.  I think that is a fair trade for them.  They won't do better for Lopez than a sure fire early lottery pick.  We still get a really good pick in 2017 (without Lopez they are even worse) and Lopez makes us better right away.

Win-Win in my book.

I actually think they will still be bad in 2018 but you never know.  By cashing it in while helping the 2017 pick, we guarantee a certain level of value while giving up both some upside and some risk.  We can then flip Lopez at some point (hoping he doesn't get injured) or see how good we are with our twin towers of Lopez and Horford (who I think would be decent together though not championship level).
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: tankcity! on November 03, 2016, 01:22:35 PM
And people laughed when I said 35-40 wins.  That pick is gonna be worthless.... :(

The Nets are 2-3, which equates to about 33 wins. Which is a top 10 pick last year. Given the depth of next years draft, how is that worthless?
boston is still searching for a superstar.  You wouldn't be likely to draft or trade for a superstar with a pick outside the top 5.

It would be Ainge's fault if he was depending on the Brooklyn picks to land him a superstar. Kind of dumb to rely on something so unknown. We should be happy with a top ten pick. We won the trade. They've had an opportunity to tank or trade the picks for a player.
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: PhoSita on November 03, 2016, 01:30:50 PM
I'm pretty sure the Knicks are worse than the Nets ... please persuade me otherwise.
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: celticsclay on November 03, 2016, 01:36:00 PM
I'm pretty sure the Knicks are worse than the Nets ... please persuade me otherwise.

Well Carmelo alone is better than anything the nets have. Porzingas, lee and Noah are all at least average NBA players.  Even if you hate him Rose is better than Lin. I mean I'm not really sure how you could think this if you are serious. On top of all that, the Nets seem destined to trade their best player because he doesn't fit the scheme they play.
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: SHAQATTACK on November 03, 2016, 02:28:49 PM
I'm pretty sure the Knicks are worse than the Nets ... please persuade me otherwise.

Listening to THe Herd show .....those idiots had Knicks as the 3 or 4 best team in the East. ::)
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: mef730 on November 03, 2016, 02:52:05 PM
I'm pretty sure the Knicks are worse than the Nets ... please persuade me otherwise.

Well Carmelo alone is better than anything the nets have. Porzingas, lee and Noah are all at least average NBA players.  Even if you hate him Rose is better than Lin. I mean I'm not really sure how you could think this if you are serious. On top of all that, the Nets seem destined to trade their best player because he doesn't fit the scheme they play.

I don't think the Nets are better than the Knicks, but I also would have told you that the Nets were going to start the season 0-5. Clearly, they are a much better team than the sum of the individual parts. I know we keep saying that their hot shooting has to cool off eventually, and regression to the mean is a very powerful force, but they look pretty good out there.

I'm at 22-24 wins.

Mike
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: Snakehead on November 03, 2016, 03:00:19 PM
I know we keep saying that their hot shooting has to cool off eventually, and regression to the mean is a very powerful force, but they look pretty good out there.

Mike

I'm sticking to those guns for sure.  They're bad.
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: alldaboston on November 03, 2016, 03:16:54 PM
Just read that Lin is out 2 weeks with a strained hamstring. Should be a good time for lots of Nets losses.
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: The One on November 03, 2016, 03:25:18 PM
Just read that Lin is out 2 weeks with a strained hamstring. Should be a good time for lots of Nets losses.

That's unfortunate for him. But I'll take it.
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: tankcity! on November 03, 2016, 03:36:36 PM
Just read that Lin is out 2 weeks with a strained hamstring. Should be a good time for lots of Nets losses.

That's unfortunate for him. But I'll take it.

Needed it.
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: mef730 on November 03, 2016, 03:45:33 PM
Looks like he will be reevaluated in two weeks. I assume that means he could be out even longer?

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Jeremy Lin has a strained hamstring. The Nets say he will be reevaluated in two weeks. Rookie Isaiah Whitehead, who had five points, four assists and four rebounds in 20 minutes the other night, could see a big boost in playing time until Greivis Vasquez and Randy Foye return.
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Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: chilidawg on November 03, 2016, 03:53:11 PM
Greivous Vasquez and Randy Foye.  Heh Heh.
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: The One on November 03, 2016, 04:09:39 PM
Greivous Vasquez and Randy Foye.  Heh Heh.

Perhaps we could trade them Demetrius for another first rounder.  ;D
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: Big333223 on November 03, 2016, 04:42:52 PM
Through 5 games, no one on the Nets is averaging 28 mpg. Lin would be except he only played 15 minutes and then got hurt last night. But now that means their leading player in minutes is Bojan Bogdanovic with 27 a night.

Someone named Sean Kilpatrick is playing 25 mpg for them and averaging 16.6 ppg. He's 27 and had previously played 35 NBA games in his career.

This team is a mess. During the dog days of the season when other teams are playing for playoff position this team is going to fall apart. I'll be pretty surprised if they win more than 25 games.
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: PhoSita on November 03, 2016, 06:18:56 PM
I'm pretty sure the Knicks are worse than the Nets ... please persuade me otherwise.
I mean I'm not really sure how you could think this if you are serious.

Well, with Lin out I think the Nets are probably solidly worse.


With Lin, it seems to me the Nets have a more credible "premise" as a team.  Lin + Lopez, a handful of serviceable NBA caliber wings in RHJ, Bogdan, and Kilpatrick, and a trio of serviceable skilled veteran big men in Booker, Scola, and Hamilton.


The Knicks have the worst point guard setup this side of Sacramento.  Aside from Lee (an average at best wing at this point), Melo, and Porzingis -- who is being relied upon to do too much offensively -- I am not sure who from that team I would want on my roster.  Noah is burnt toast.
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: Surferdad on November 03, 2016, 07:03:49 PM
I'm pretty sure the Knicks are worse than the Nets ... please persuade me otherwise.
I mean I'm not really sure how you could think this if you are serious.

Well, with Lin out I think the Nets are probably solidly worse.


With Lin, it seems to me the Nets have a more credible "premise" as a team.  Lin + Lopez, a handful of serviceable NBA caliber wings in RHJ, Bogdan, and Kilpatrick, and a trio of serviceable skilled veteran big men in Booker, Scola, and Hamilton.


The Knicks have the worst point guard setup this side of Sacramento.  Aside from Lee (an average at best wing at this point), Melo, and Porzingis -- who is being relied upon to do too much offensively -- I am not sure who from that team I would want on my roster.  Noah is burnt toast.
Oh, but they are a superteam according to Derek Rose.  ;D
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: max215 on November 03, 2016, 07:16:10 PM
I'm pretty sure the Knicks are worse than the Nets ... please persuade me otherwise.
I mean I'm not really sure how you could think this if you are serious.

Well, with Lin out I think the Nets are probably solidly worse.


With Lin, it seems to me the Nets have a more credible "premise" as a team.  Lin + Lopez, a handful of serviceable NBA caliber wings in RHJ, Bogdan, and Kilpatrick, and a trio of serviceable skilled veteran big men in Booker, Scola, and Hamilton.


The Knicks have the worst point guard setup this side of Sacramento.  Aside from Lee (an average at best wing at this point), Melo, and Porzingis -- who is being relied upon to do too much offensively -- I am not sure who from that team I would want on my roster.  Noah is burnt toast.

I'd rather have Sacramento's point guards. Collison (when he's back) and Lawson isn't quite as bad as Rose-Jennings.
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: SuddenFame on November 04, 2016, 05:32:29 AM

In other words, some people, both before and after their 0-9 start, kept persisting that the Nets would pick up steam and hit 35 wins.  And they did pick up steam.  Recall that they were one blown Brook Lopez layup away from defeating Golden State on their home turf.  After they picked up a few wins, there was some panicking around here and knee-jerk reactions just like yours, calling the pick "worthless" and urging Danny to trade it away.

They beat Detroit last night (it became a close game in the 4th even after the Nets had led by 21 points in the 3rd quarter) because of an aberration of a 1st half, where they shot 9-13 from 3,  with Lopez hitting 4 of 5, and 71% shooting overall.  That's extremely unlikely to happen again.


* I disagree with your first point. No matter how you package it, the Nets were hot garbage consistently and throughout the season.  A couple of wins here and there doesn't negate that.
What was their longest win streak? 3 games?
Once Jarrett Jack went down, everyone and their brother knew the Nets were doomed.

* Your second point is way off the mark as well: The Nets were up big because Lin was in the game --once he left, that's when their offensive numbers started to slide.
They had 71 points in the first half, but only 38 in the second because Kilpatrick took over the pg role. I will concede though, that it's unlikely Lopez will continue shooting fifty percent from three, which is just retarded.

Now without Lin, this Nets team is toast in the long run.  We'll see just how much time he misses, the longer the better, cuz in this motion offense that Kenny Atkinson likes to run, Lin is their best player.  Btw, Sean Kilpatrick is a decent enough sparkplug off the bench, but he's the kind of guy the longer he's in the more he's 'exposed'.  He can be an absolute bricklayer some nights.

Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: SuddenFame on November 04, 2016, 05:50:31 AM
I was bummed to hear that they beat Detroit.  I doubt they continue to be a 0.400 team (33 wins).  I feel like any pick in the top 5 is great considering the original trade, 6-10 OK, 11 or higher, disappointing (in no case worthless, diminishing yes but not worthless).

I have an idea to hedge our assets.  Trade the 2018 Nets pick back to them and maybe another future first round pick (even the Memphis one that is looking better all the time) and/or one of our current stashes plus Amir for Lopez.  Then they will likely be worse for the 2017 pick and can tank one more year and go for gold in 2018.  I think that is a fair trade for them.  They won't do better for Lopez than a sure fire early lottery pick.  We still get a really good pick in 2017 (without Lopez they are even worse) and Lopez makes us better right away.

Win-Win in my book.

I actually think they will still be bad in 2018 but you never know.  By cashing it in while helping the 2017 pick, we guarantee a certain level of value while giving up both some upside and some risk.  We can then flip Lopez at some point (hoping he doesn't get injured) or see how good we are with our twin towers of Lopez and Horford (who I think would be decent together though not championship level).

I'm ok with that trade, it seems pretty fair for both sides.  If Danny were to call Brooklyn with that proposal I'm pretty sure Kenny Atkinson and Sean Marks help Brook pack his suitcases and then drive him to Boston personally.  He's just the wrong type of player for that offensive scheme, but he would do wonders for Boston in the paint.
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: SCeltic34 on November 04, 2016, 09:19:00 AM

In other words, some people, both before and after their 0-9 start, kept persisting that the Nets would pick up steam and hit 35 wins.  And they did pick up steam.  Recall that they were one blown Brook Lopez layup away from defeating Golden State on their home turf.  After they picked up a few wins, there was some panicking around here and knee-jerk reactions just like yours, calling the pick "worthless" and urging Danny to trade it away.

They beat Detroit last night (it became a close game in the 4th even after the Nets had led by 21 points in the 3rd quarter) because of an aberration of a 1st half, where they shot 9-13 from 3,  with Lopez hitting 4 of 5, and 71% shooting overall.  That's extremely unlikely to happen again.


* I disagree with your first point. No matter how you package it, the Nets were hot garbage consistently and throughout the season.  A couple of wins here and there doesn't negate that.
What was their longest win streak? 3 games?
Once Jarrett Jack went down, everyone and their brother knew the Nets were doomed.

* Your second point is way off the mark as well: The Nets were up big because Lin was in the game --once he left, that's when their offensive numbers started to slide.
They had 71 points in the first half, but only 38 in the second because Kilpatrick took over the pg role. I will concede though, that it's unlikely Lopez will continue shooting fifty percent from three, which is just retarded.

Now without Lin, this Nets team is toast in the long run.  We'll see just how much time he misses, the longer the better, cuz in this motion offense that Kenny Atkinson likes to run, Lin is their best player.  Btw, Sean Kilpatrick is a decent enough sparkplug off the bench, but he's the kind of guy the longer he's in the more he's 'exposed'.  He can be an absolute bricklayer some nights.

I'd say that the Nets were doomed with or without Jack.  They were still on pace for a win total in the low 20's even when he was healthy.  Lack of depth was one of the primary reasons many of us predicted the Nets to be among the worst teams in the league.  They simply weren't equipped to sustain an injury to a starting player, and we all know that injuries are inevitable in major sports.

As for your 2nd argument, Lin was in the game against the Bulls too.  They scored 88 points total.  Lin played well, but so did the entire team.  It had more to do with Lopez destroying Drummond (who played soft and without effort, probably why he didn't play much int he 2nd half) and everyone draining their 3's, going 9 for 13 in the first half from 3.  They went 4 for 14 in the 2nd half. 

Kilpatrick I agree was a great pickup.  He can score in a multitude of ways and has played very well since being added last season.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (2-3, #10 on 11/2)
Post by: mef730 on November 04, 2016, 08:40:06 PM
Halftime. Charlotte shooting 37% from the field, 31% from 3 and 56% from the line. Only down by seven, which I guess is a good thing. Man, they look awful.

Mike
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (2-3, #10 on 11/2)
Post by: SuddenFame on November 04, 2016, 09:06:16 PM
Halftime. Charlotte shooting 37% from the field, 31% from 3 and 56% from the line. Only down by seven, which I guess is a good thing. Man, they look awful.

Mike

I think Charlotte is a deceptively bad team, imo.  They can be had on any given night by any team, no matter how bad they may be.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (2-3, #10 on 11/2)
Post by: SuddenFame on November 04, 2016, 09:11:34 PM
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As for your 2nd argument, Lin was in the game against the Bulls too.  They scored 88 points total.  Lin played well, but so did the entire team.  It had more to do with Lopez destroying Drummond (who played soft and without effort, probably why he didn't play much int he 2nd half) and everyone draining their 3's, going 9 for 13 in the first half from 3.  They went 4 for 14 in the 2nd half. 

Ok, I'll buy that. Solid point. 
The big takeaway from those numbers is: The Nets really are a streaky team this year.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (2-3, #10 on 11/2)
Post by: A Future of Stevens on November 04, 2016, 09:55:04 PM
Nets lost. Thank goodness. Charlotte doesnt look good at all man.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (2-3, #10 on 11/2)
Post by: jpotter33 on November 04, 2016, 09:56:59 PM
Game. Luckily, Charlotte did enough to squeeze out this win. They're just a pretty streaky team to begin with.

I think once the losses start piling up the Nets will stop playing as hard and being in so many close games.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (2-3, #10 on 11/2)
Post by: A Future of Stevens on November 04, 2016, 10:12:42 PM
I honestly think the Nets are going to exaccerbate and underlying anxiety disorder I dont think I have. It seems like its all nail biters.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (2-3, #10 on 11/2)
Post by: max215 on November 04, 2016, 10:23:27 PM
I honestly think the Nets are going to exaccerbate and underlying anxiety disorder I dont think I have. It seems like its all nail biters.

TP to ease your anxiety lol
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (2-3, #10 on 11/2)
Post by: mef730 on November 05, 2016, 04:18:49 PM
Next game for them is going to be a challenge (for them to lose), at home against Minnesota on Tuesday. Hopefully Towns and Wiggins take it to them.

After that, five straight road games: NYK, Phoenix, LAC, LAL and Oklahoma City. Wow, there are some really crappy teams in the NBA this year. That Phoenix game could be an issue.

Mike
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (2-3, #10 on 11/2)
Post by: LarBrd33 on November 05, 2016, 05:08:37 PM
Lin being out at least two weeks is a great sign.  Hopefully this means they will be riddled with injuries like last year.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (2-3, #10 on 11/2)
Post by: hpantazo on November 05, 2016, 05:14:13 PM
The Nets have quietly managed to put together a collection of talented prospects despite us stealing their own picks.

Rondae Hollis-Jefferson looks great so far.

Isaiah Whitehead is showing some great flashes of potential lately. They paid a record amount of money to get the pick they used on Whitehead.

Caris Levert will be ready to play soon and he was projected as a lottery pick before his injuries, he could end up being a steal for them.

Chris McCullough was also a projected lottery talent before his knee injury.

It also sounds like they will sign Archie Goodwin who showed some great flashes of potential in Phoenix before he requested a trade for lack of playing time and they released him.

I'm quite impressed with the job they've done since replacing Billy King.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (2-3, #10 on 11/2)
Post by: celticsclay on November 05, 2016, 05:57:09 PM
Lin being out at least two weeks is a great sign.  Hopefully this means they will be riddled with injuries like last year.

Yeah aside from their best 2 players having perfect health all year  and joe Johnson staying healthy at 35 till they cut him loose they really got screwed!
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (2-3, #10 on 11/2)
Post by: celticsclay on November 05, 2016, 05:57:57 PM
The Nets have quietly managed to put together a collection of talented prospects despite us stealing their own picks.

Rondae Hollis-Jefferson looks great so far.

Isaiah Whitehead is showing some great flashes of potential lately. They paid a record amount of money to get the pick they used on Whitehead.

Caris Levert will be ready to play soon and he was projected as a lottery pick before his injuries, he could end up being a steal for them.

Chris McCullough was also a projected lottery talent before his knee injury.

It also sounds like they will sign Archie Goodwin who showed some great flashes of potential in Phoenix before he requested a trade for lack of playing time and they released him.

I'm quite impressed with the job they've done since replacing Billy King.
this is pretty much the definition of polishing a turd
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (2-3, #10 on 11/2)
Post by: hpantazo on November 05, 2016, 07:02:02 PM
The Nets have quietly managed to put together a collection of talented prospects despite us stealing their own picks.

Rondae Hollis-Jefferson looks great so far.

Isaiah Whitehead is showing some great flashes of potential lately. They paid a record amount of money to get the pick they used on Whitehead.

Caris Levert will be ready to play soon and he was projected as a lottery pick before his injuries, he could end up being a steal for them.

Chris McCullough was also a projected lottery talent before his knee injury.

It also sounds like they will sign Archie Goodwin who showed some great flashes of potential in Phoenix before he requested a trade for lack of playing time and they released him.

I'm quite impressed with the job they've done since replacing Billy King.
this is pretty much the definition of polishing a turd


No disrespect, but imo, that just reflects your lack of knowledge of prospects and inability to appreciate what the Nets have done so quickly with limited resources. Their new GM is the polar opposite of Billy King so far.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (2-3, #10 on 11/2)
Post by: moiso on November 05, 2016, 08:18:49 PM
Those aren't great prospects.  I like Hollis Jefferson but he can't throw the ball in the ocean.  He's their best prospect but he's not a super high level one.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (2-3, #10 on 11/2)
Post by: SuddenFame on November 06, 2016, 12:32:28 PM

No disrespect, but imo, that just reflects your lack of knowledge of prospects and inability to appreciate what the Nets have done so quickly with limited resources. Their new GM is the polar opposite of Billy King so far.

I hear what you're saying, but the vast majority of the boardies here will never give even a morsel of respect for the kind of job Marks and Atkinson are doing over in Brooklyn.  No team has done more with less than the Nets in the last six months.
The rose-colored glasses ain't ever coming off, in fact, they're bolted on. 
In fact, most Celtics fans, it seems, are 100% absolutely convinced that the C's are getting the number one pick; really just mind-boggling. 

When the Celtics end up having to draft a guy like Marques Bolden, who has no shooting range and lacks explosiveness, instead of having a top five pick, then they'll wish they had cashed-in that lottery chit for a guy like Jokic or Nurkic or Noel.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (2-3, #10 on 11/2)
Post by: RockinRyA on November 06, 2016, 01:00:04 PM

In fact, most Celtics fans, it seems, are 100% absolutely convinced that the C's are getting the number one pick; really just mind-boggling. 

I bet you cant even list 3 posters who said such a thing, let alone most of us  ::)
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (2-3, #10 on 11/2)
Post by: celticsclay on November 06, 2016, 01:05:25 PM
The Nets have quietly managed to put together a collection of talented prospects despite us stealing their own picks.

Rondae Hollis-Jefferson looks great so far.

Isaiah Whitehead is showing some great flashes of potential lately. They paid a record amount of money to get the pick they used on Whitehead.

Caris Levert will be ready to play soon and he was projected as a lottery pick before his injuries, he could end up being a steal for them.

Chris McCullough was also a projected lottery talent before his knee injury.

It also sounds like they will sign Archie Goodwin who showed some great flashes of potential in Phoenix before he requested a trade for lack of playing time and they released him.

I'm quite impressed with the job they've done since replacing Billy King.
this is pretty much the definition of polishing a turd


No disrespect, but imo, that just reflects your lack of knowledge of prospects and inability to appreciate what the Nets have done so quickly with limited resources. Their new GM is the polar opposite of Billy King so far.

Lol. Thanks for inferring my knowledge of prospects because I disagree with you. Didn't realize you were God on prospect value.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (2-3, #10 on 11/2)
Post by: SuddenFame on November 07, 2016, 01:20:17 PM
@RocknRya

What's your point?  I absolutely stand by that statement.  People here ARE convinced that it will be a top pick.  Giving zero credit to what Brooklyn is capable of with a healthy Lopez & Lin. Total hubris when it comes to those Brooklyn picks. 
  Just like I keep seeing posts saying we should trade Jaylen Brown.  What a load of nonsense....
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (2-4, #8 on 11/4)
Post by: mr. dee on November 08, 2016, 01:52:28 AM
Top 10 worst team standings as of today:

1. Pelicans (0-7)
2. Sixers (0-6)
3. Mavs (1-5)
4. Wizards (1-5)
5. Suns (2-5)
6. Wolves (1-4)
7. Nets (2-4)
8. Heat (2-4)
9. Knicks (2-4)
10. Kings (3-5)
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (2-3, #10 on 11/2)
Post by: Quetzalcoatl on November 08, 2016, 02:16:24 AM
@RocknRya

What's your point?  I absolutely stand by that statement.  People here ARE convinced that it will be a top pick.  Giving zero credit to what Brooklyn is capable of with a healthy Lopez & Lin. Total hubris when it comes to those Brooklyn picks. 
  Just like I keep seeing posts saying we should trade Jaylen Brown.  What a load of nonsense....

Lin is out for the next 2 weeks.  They will be like 2-7 to start the season.  They're not a good team even when he's there.  Don't worry
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (2-4, #8 on 11/4)
Post by: trickybilly on November 08, 2016, 09:50:14 PM
Huge 3 from Boggy from Half court to seal the game..
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (2-4, #8 on 11/4)
Post by: SCeltic34 on November 08, 2016, 10:02:01 PM
Atkinson and the Nets players deserve a lot of credit.  At no point last season did they look this good offensively.  The ball moves and they play with confidence.

Not that the TWolves are any good - as a matter of fact they looked really bad at times on both ends of the floor.  Too much hero ball and bad shots.  LaVine is talented but is a black hole on offense.  Their defense was anything but impressive.  Not surprised they're 1-5 despite having what most would consider to be the best collection of young talent in the league.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (2-4, #8 on 11/4)
Post by: SuddenFame on November 08, 2016, 11:47:30 PM
Top 10 worst team standings as of today:

1. Pelicans (0-7)
2. Sixers (0-6)
3. Mavs (1-5)
4. Wizards (1-5)
5. Suns (2-5)
6. Wolves (1-4)
7. Nets (2-4)
8. Heat (2-4)
9. Knicks (2-4)
10. Kings (3-5)

Nets are no longer on that list.
Trade the [dang] pick!
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (2-4, #8 on 11/4)
Post by: RockinRyA on November 09, 2016, 12:04:34 AM
Top 10 worst team standings as of today:

1. Pelicans (0-7)
2. Sixers (0-6)
3. Mavs (1-5)
4. Wizards (1-5)
5. Suns (2-5)
6. Wolves (1-4)
7. Nets (2-4)
8. Heat (2-4)
9. Knicks (2-4)
10. Kings (3-5)

Nets are no longer on that list.
Trade the [dang] pick!

 ::) Making a trade just for the sake of making a trade is what kills franchises.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (2-4, #8 on 11/4)
Post by: mr. dee on November 09, 2016, 12:08:45 AM
Top 10 worst team standings as of today:

1. Pelicans (0-7)
2. Sixers (0-6)
3. Mavs (1-5)
4. Wizards (1-5)
5. Suns (2-5)
6. Wolves (1-4)
7. Nets (2-4)
8. Heat (2-4)
9. Knicks (2-4)
10. Kings (3-5)

Nets are no longer on that list.
Trade the [dang] pick!

3 wins against lottery and borderline teams. There are still 75 games left. Are you giving up that early?

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Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (2-4, #8 on 11/4)
Post by: tazzmaniac on November 09, 2016, 12:27:41 AM
We really need the Nets to be losing now.  If they stay in the playoff hunt, they probably won't move Lopez.  There are just too many poor to mediocre teams.  Lots of bad defense.  Too many opportunities for the Nets to get Wins. 
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (2-4, #8 on 11/4)
Post by: LarBrd33 on November 09, 2016, 12:39:44 AM
Wolves having a rough start.  Brooklyn is Trumping expectations so far.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (2-4, #8 on 11/4)
Post by: alldaboston on November 09, 2016, 12:45:54 AM
Wolves having a rough start.  Brooklyn is Trumping expectations so far.

haha...hah.....ha.........
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (2-4, #8 on 11/4)
Post by: CroCorvus on November 09, 2016, 01:19:49 AM
The Nets are sneaky good (to not be in bottom three)  :'(
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (2-4, #8 on 11/4)
Post by: kraidstar on November 09, 2016, 01:27:37 AM
Wolves having a rough start.  Brooklyn is Trumping expectations so far.

haha...hah.....ha.........

Russians have their hands in both situations. Coincidence? I think not.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (2-4, #8 on 11/4)
Post by: BornReady on November 09, 2016, 01:52:29 AM
I hate how Nets are just winning games
They were projected as a bottom 5 team
Hopefully by the end of season, it all evens out and they return to the bottom
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (3-4, #9 on 11/8)
Post by: Redz on November 09, 2016, 08:27:09 AM
We're a half game away from using our own pick instead.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (3-4, #9 on 11/8)
Post by: TheSundanceKid on November 09, 2016, 09:39:39 AM
Isn't there some kind of unwritten rule that you wait 20 games before judging a team's performance? I feel like that should go for this pick too. here are wild overreactions going on here about the chances of this pick. Chill out, enjoy the basketball and revisit this in a month
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (3-4, #9 on 11/8)
Post by: tankcity! on November 09, 2016, 09:43:30 AM
Celtics really need this pick haha. I don't see any other way unless we wait two years or 3 years for AD. Who knows what our team will be like then. And we might not have the assets.

Trading for Cousins soon is our only hope I imagine.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (3-4, #9 on 11/8)
Post by: mef730 on November 09, 2016, 10:52:06 AM
Isn't there some kind of unwritten rule that you wait 20 games before judging a team's performance?

I think so. But the Nets are about to go on the road for a 5-game series. I'm considering this an early "where the rubber meets the road." If they do any better than 1-4 (playing against NYK, PHX, LAL, LAC, OKC), I will be disappointed.

Mike
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (3-4, #9 on 11/8)
Post by: tankcity! on November 09, 2016, 05:09:49 PM
Hard not to pay attention. This could be devastating for the Celtics
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (3-4, #9 on 11/8)
Post by: alldaboston on November 09, 2016, 05:17:02 PM
Hard not to pay attention. This could be devastating for the Celtics

I'm firmly in the "trade the pick" camp right now. Most of the prospects either have injury concerns already, are guards, or can't really shoot that well (at least from the basic things i've heard thus far). i'm very scared of Giles too, his knee could be a serious issue. If we can get a Boogie or someone like that for a package of the two picks and maybe Smart or Rozier or someone, i'm doing it. the nets are gonna surprise everyone, and they'll make it a much worse pick. heck, if they win tonight, they'll be at .500, like us!
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (3-4, #9 on 11/8)
Post by: A Future of Stevens on November 09, 2016, 09:10:23 PM
Never thought I would say this but I love the knicks. Up 98-72 with 6ish minutes left.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (3-4, #9 on 11/8)
Post by: MJohnnyboy on November 09, 2016, 09:11:35 PM
Never thought I would say this but I love the knicks. Up 98-72 with 6ish minutes left.

Whoa. Weren't the Nets up by double digits in the first half?
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (3-4, #9 on 11/8)
Post by: A Future of Stevens on November 09, 2016, 09:18:30 PM
Never thought I would say this but I love the knicks. Up 98-72 with 6ish minutes left.

Whoa. Weren't the Nets up by double digits in the first half?

Yea I believe so. I think they cut it to a few points going into the 4th, then buried the Nets to start the 4th. Doing us a solid NY.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (3-4, #9 on 11/8)
Post by: max215 on November 09, 2016, 09:20:17 PM
Never thought I would say this but I love the knicks. Up 98-72 with 6ish minutes left.

Whoa. Weren't the Nets up by double digits in the first half?

I believe the Nets were shooting 50% from three at that point; it was an illusion. That's going to happen a lot this year with the volume they shoot.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (3-4, #9 on 11/8)
Post by: celticsclay on November 09, 2016, 09:43:56 PM
Never thought I would say this but I love the knicks. Up 98-72 with 6ish minutes left.

Whoa. Weren't the Nets up by double digits in the first half?

I believe the Nets were shooting 50% from three at that point; it was an illusion. That's going to happen a lot this year with the volume they shoot.

By the way. Randy Foye is awful and should not be in the NBA at this point. He just comes in and shoots ill advised 3 pointers that miss.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (3-4, #9 on 11/8)
Post by: bopna on November 09, 2016, 09:46:31 PM
Never thought I would say this but I love the knicks. Up 98-72 with 6ish minutes left.

Whoa. Weren't the Nets up by double digits in the first half?

I believe the Nets were shooting 50% from three at that point; it was an illusion. That's going to happen a lot this year with the volume they shoot.

By the way. Randy Foye is awful and should not be in the NBA at this point. He just comes in and shoots ill advised 3 pointers that miss.
I betcha though when they play the Cs he goes off...that has been our season so far...other teams role players get career highs over us.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (3-4, #9 on 11/8)
Post by: alldaboston on November 09, 2016, 10:25:10 PM
Never thought I would say this but I love the knicks. Up 98-72 with 6ish minutes left.

Whoa. Weren't the Nets up by double digits in the first half?

I believe the Nets were shooting 50% from three at that point; it was an illusion. That's going to happen a lot this year with the volume they shoot.

By the way. Randy Foye is awful and should not be in the NBA at this point. He just comes in and shoots ill advised 3 pointers that miss.
I betcha though when they play the Cs he goes off...that has been our season so far...other teams role players get career highs over us.

this.

who do we play next, Knicks? Kuzminskas will go off on us.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (3-4, #9 on 11/8)
Post by: Adelaide Celt on November 10, 2016, 12:45:12 AM
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/sources-nets-to-sign-yogi-ferrell-after-releasing-greivis-vasquez-185635019.html

Greivis Vasquez out, Yogi Ferrell in. That's surely a 'net loss'  ;D
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (3-5, #9 on 11/9)
Post by: chambers on November 12, 2016, 08:49:19 AM
Looks like the Pelicans get Holiday back next game which is what our Nets pick desperately needs.

Right now the only single team that is certainly worse than the Nets is the 76ers again.
Other than that, I am almost 100% certain they'll be bottom five.
The Wizards, Kings, Suns all have more talent and are trying to win games this year. The Heat are close to the Nets, but with Dragic, Johnson and Whiteside  and Winslow I think they'll get a few more wins than the Nets.

Jrue Holiday averaged 17 points 7 assists and 5 rebounds last year for the Pelicans and he'll probably help an extra 8-12 wins for them on their current status. Losing Lance hurts them but Holiday coming back is a far greater gain. Getting Tyreke Evans back will be icing on the top.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (3-5, #9 on 11/9)
Post by: tazzmaniac on November 12, 2016, 03:58:20 PM
Looks like the Pelicans get Holiday back next game which is what our Nets pick desperately needs.

Right now the only single team that is certainly worse than the Nets is the 76ers again.
Other than that, I am almost 100% certain they'll be bottom five.
The Wizards, Kings, Suns all have more talent and are trying to win games this year. The Heat are close to the Nets, but with Dragic, Johnson and Whiteside  and Winslow I think they'll get a few more wins than the Nets.

Jrue Holiday averaged 17 points 7 assists and 5 rebounds last year for the Pelicans and he'll probably help an extra 8-12 wins for them on their current status. Losing Lance hurts them but Holiday coming back is a far greater gain. Getting Tyreke Evans back will be icing on the top.
The Mavs and Magic will also be competing for bottom 5.  The TWolves will too if they don't start playing better defense. 
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (3-5, #9 on 11/9)
Post by: mr. dee on November 12, 2016, 10:01:09 PM
Suns outsucking the Nets so far in their game.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (3-5, #9 on 11/9)
Post by: Bostoncelticsforlife7 on November 12, 2016, 11:33:23 PM
Brandon knight is soooooo garbage. Holy Edited.  Profanity and masked profanity are against forum rules and may result in discipline. I usually don't get this p---ed after a Nets win, but every time knight touched the ball he either bricked it or turned it over. Not to mention his defense was terrible. He single handedly lost the game for his team!!! SMFH
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (3-5, #9 on 11/9)
Post by: alldaboston on November 12, 2016, 11:34:48 PM
Wow the lakers won again. I really thought AD would pulverize them (which he did), but i guess he's not enough.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-5, #13 on 11/12)
Post by: PhoSita on November 13, 2016, 04:53:30 AM
We're really counting on a Brook Lopez injury or trade, aren't we?

Sean Mays / Kenny Atkinson doing good work so far, all things considered.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-5, #13 on 11/12)
Post by: mef730 on November 13, 2016, 03:56:12 PM
We're really counting on a Brook Lopez injury or trade, aren't we?

Sean Mays / Kenny Atkinson doing good work so far, all things considered.

We are.

This is all Obama's fault.

Mike
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (3-5, #9 on 11/9)
Post by: blink on November 13, 2016, 04:01:30 PM
Wow the lakers won again. I really thought AD would pulverize them (which he did), but i guess he's not enough.

This lakers roster is actually winning games and looking decent.  I didn't think that would happen this year.  Maybe just a small sample size, but still.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (3-5, #9 on 11/9)
Post by: alldaboston on November 13, 2016, 04:08:44 PM
Wow the lakers won again. I really thought AD would pulverize them (which he did), but i guess he's not enough.

This lakers roster is actually winning games and looking decent.  I didn't think that would happen this year.  Maybe just a small sample size, but still.

Not gonna lie, I find myself rooting for them this year. They look competitive. Walton has done a great job there. I dont think a single player on that team is even playing 30 minutes a game, and yet they get lots of scoring from everyone and have a very potent offense. I love their young core. They're gonna be good for a long time.

I also just noticed i posted all this in the Nets thread...dont know why lol
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-5, #13 on 11/12)
Post by: Big333223 on November 13, 2016, 04:36:54 PM
Still early. I expect the league the normalize once we get into the middle of the season and both Brooklyn and the Lakers will be as bad as predicted.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-5, #13 on 11/12)
Post by: chambers on November 13, 2016, 05:54:06 PM
We're really counting on a Brook Lopez injury or trade, aren't we?

Sean Mays / Kenny Atkinson doing good work so far, all things considered.

We are.

This is all Obama's fault.

Mike

Theyll still be bottom 5 with Lopez healthy. If he goes down they'll challenge Philly fornworst record.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-5, #13 on 11/12)
Post by: LarBrd33 on November 13, 2016, 06:49:52 PM
We're really counting on a Brook Lopez injury or trade, aren't we?

Sean Mays / Kenny Atkinson doing good work so far, all things considered.

We are.

This is all Obama's fault.

Mike

Theyll still be bottom 5 with Lopez healthy. If he goes down they'll challenge Philly fornworst record.
Maybe not.  They were only bottom 5 last year, because half their roster got ravaged by injuries.  Starting to see the impact of having healthy RHJ and a mediocre supporting cast around Lopez. 
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-5, #13 on 11/12)
Post by: TheSundanceKid on November 14, 2016, 07:00:48 AM
We're really counting on a Brook Lopez injury or trade, aren't we?

Sean Mays / Kenny Atkinson doing good work so far, all things considered.

We are.

This is all Obama's fault.

Mike

Theyll still be bottom 5 with Lopez healthy. If he goes down they'll challenge Philly fornworst record.
Maybe not.  They were only bottom 5 last year, because half their roster got ravaged by injuries.  Starting to see the impact of having healthy RHJ and a mediocre supporting cast around Lopez.
Pretty certain that argument got shot down when you made it last year. Last year RHJ was out for some time (a rookie) and they lost Jarrett Jack which probably did affect them. However that is just 2 players with serious injuries, not even half of their starting lineup. Seriously, we've suffered more this year than they did last year.

The Nets will still finish in the bottom 5 when it all shakes out. Even if they don't we should appreciate the fact that we are contending whilst getting a lottery pick
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-5, #13 on 11/12)
Post by: moiso on November 14, 2016, 07:07:22 AM
We're really counting on a Brook Lopez injury or trade, aren't we?

Sean Mays / Kenny Atkinson doing good work so far, all things considered.

We are.

This is all Obama's fault.

Mike

Theyll still be bottom 5 with Lopez healthy. If he goes down they'll challenge Philly fornworst record.
Maybe not.  They were only bottom 5 last year, because half their roster got ravaged by injuries.  Starting to see the impact of having healthy RHJ and a mediocre supporting cast around Lopez.
Pretty certain that argument got shot down when you made it last year. Last year RHJ was out for some time (a rookie) and they lost Jarrett Jack which probably did affect them. However that is just 2 players with serious injuries, not even half of their starting lineup. Seriously, we've suffered more this year than they did last year.

The Nets will still finish in the bottom 5 when it all shakes out. Even if they don't we should appreciate the fact that we are contending whilst getting a lottery pick
That argument gets shot down at least a couple times a week to this day.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-5, #13 on 11/12)
Post by: The One on November 14, 2016, 08:03:29 AM
With all the talented frosh...this might not be a bad year for the pick to be between 5 and 10.

If the pick is kept, there is some nice talent there.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-5, #13 on 11/12)
Post by: hwangjini_1 on November 14, 2016, 08:23:53 AM
We're really counting on a Brook Lopez injury or trade, aren't we?

Sean Mays / Kenny Atkinson doing good work so far, all things considered.

We are.

This is all Obama's fault.

Mike

Theyll still be bottom 5 with Lopez healthy. If he goes down they'll challenge Philly fornworst record.
Maybe not.  They were only bottom 5 last year, because half their roster got ravaged by injuries.  Starting to see the impact of having healthy RHJ and a mediocre supporting cast around Lopez.
Pretty certain that argument got shot down when you made it last year. Last year RHJ was out for some time (a rookie) and they lost Jarrett Jack which probably did affect them. However that is just 2 players with serious injuries, not even half of their starting lineup. Seriously, we've suffered more this year than they did last year.

The Nets will still finish in the bottom 5 when it all shakes out. Even if they don't we should appreciate the fact that we are contending whilst getting a lottery pick
The nets winning percentage before and after the injuries was very similar. They were bad last year from start to finish.

This year? Harder to say. I think Lopez gets moved and the incentive is to play youngsters and see how they fit into the future of the team. I am thinking they will still be a bad team. How bad is the only question.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-5, #13 on 11/12)
Post by: GreenShooter on November 14, 2016, 02:17:13 PM
I can't believe some people are panicking that the Nets won a few games (4!). Even with their torrid pace they are exactly"2" games ahead of the 3rd worse record in the league. Their schedule for the next 6 games (@Lakers; @Clippers, @OKC; vs Portland, vs. C's; @Indiana) is not all that promising for their continued dominance over the league, as only 1 team has a worse record by 1/2 game (Indiana). I see a back to reality moment for the Nets over the next two weeks.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-5, #13 on 11/12)
Post by: Denis998 on November 14, 2016, 02:26:46 PM
I can't believe some people are panicking that the Nets won a few games (4!). Even with their torrid pace they are exactly"2" games ahead of the 3rd worse record in the league. Their schedule for the next 6 games (@Lakers; @Clippers, @OKC; vs Portland, vs. C's; @Indiana) is not all that promising for their continued dominance over the league, as only 1 team has a worse record by 1/2 game (Indiana). I see a back to reality moment for the Nets over the next two weeks.
They have like a quarter of the wins that they had last season, all within the first 1/8 of the season.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-5, #13 on 11/12)
Post by: chambers on November 14, 2016, 03:20:54 PM
We're really counting on a Brook Lopez injury or trade, aren't we?

Sean Mays / Kenny Atkinson doing good work so far, all things considered.

We are.

This is all Obama's fault.

Mike

Theyll still be bottom 5 with Lopez healthy. If he goes down they'll challenge Philly fornworst record.
Maybe not.  They were only bottom 5 last year, because half their roster got ravaged by injuries.  Starting to see the impact of having healthy RHJ and a mediocre supporting cast around Lopez.

Ravaged?
They lost a rookie who had little impact on the W/L column and Jarret Jack about half way through the season. Injuries had absolutely nothing to do with their result, the fact that they had one of the worst rosters and benches in the NBA was why they sucked lol.

You sound like one of those climate change deniers who just won't relent.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-5, #13 on 11/12)
Post by: Granath on November 14, 2016, 03:43:00 PM
I can't believe some people are panicking that the Nets won a few games (4!). Even with their torrid pace they are exactly"2" games ahead of the 3rd worse record in the league. Their schedule for the next 6 games (@Lakers; @Clippers, @OKC; vs Portland, vs. C's; @Indiana) is not all that promising for their continued dominance over the league, as only 1 team has a worse record by 1/2 game (Indiana). I see a back to reality moment for the Nets over the next two weeks.
They have like a quarter of the wins that they had last season, all within the first 1/8 of the season.

*shrug*

At one point they won 4 out of 5 last season which is far better than 4 out of 9. They still finished with 21 wins. The 4 best teams in the East right now are Cleveland, Charlotte, Atlanta and Toronto. The 4 best teams in the West right now are the Clips, Warriors, Spurs and Trail Blazers. They've faced exactly one of those teams during this time. No one they've beaten has a winning
record right now. 

So they're sub-.500 against a weak schedule. Big Deal. Here's the rest of the schedule for the month:

@LAC
@LAL
@OKC
POR
BOS
@IND
SAC
LAC

Every team besides Indy has a winning record. If they go 3-5, then worry. But that looks to me like (at best) a 2-6 or perhaps even 0-8 (and if they do that, they have the same record as they did at this time last year!).

Brooklyn looks like a bad team. Things even out. Relax.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-5, #13 on 11/12)
Post by: footey on November 14, 2016, 04:07:32 PM
I disagree with Granath. I have watched a few of their games this year. They seem more together as a team.  I think they will easily surpass their win total of last year, barring an unforeseen trade (Lopez) or injury.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-5, #13 on 11/12)
Post by: celticsclay on November 14, 2016, 04:25:25 PM
We're really counting on a Brook Lopez injury or trade, aren't we?

Sean Mays / Kenny Atkinson doing good work so far, all things considered.

We are.

This is all Obama's fault.

Mike

Theyll still be bottom 5 with Lopez healthy. If he goes down they'll challenge Philly fornworst record.
Maybe not.  They were only bottom 5 last year, because half their roster got ravaged by injuries.  Starting to see the impact of having healthy RHJ and a mediocre supporting cast around Lopez.

Ravaged?
They lost a rookie who had little impact on the W/L column and Jarret Jack about half way through the season. Injuries had absolutely nothing to do with their result, the fact that they had one of the worst rosters and benches in the NBA was why they sucked lol.

You sound like one of those climate change deniers who just won't relent.

Got to agree that this comment ranks pretty high in the theater of the absurd. The Nets were one of the healthiest teams in all of the NBA last year. Brook Lopez and Thad young stayed 100% healthy all season. Joe Johnson, despite being 35 years old remained healthy the entire time he was on their roster. Losing a late first round pick for a chunk of the season and a middling (should be backup) point guard on the back end of his career for half a season is an extreme abuse of the word "ravage". It is unfortunate they stayed so healthy last year or we could very well have ended up with Simmons on our team.

Edit: Do people realize the Celtics have already dealt with more meaningful injuries this season in the first 9 games than the Nets did the entirety of last season? We are missing our 2nd and 4th and 7th best player. The worst the Nets had to deal with was missing arguably their 4th and 5th best players for a stretches. Let's put that foolishness to rest. 
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-5, #13 on 11/12)
Post by: LarBrd33 on November 14, 2016, 04:59:16 PM
We're really counting on a Brook Lopez injury or trade, aren't we?

Sean Mays / Kenny Atkinson doing good work so far, all things considered.

We are.

This is all Obama's fault.

Mike

Theyll still be bottom 5 with Lopez healthy. If he goes down they'll challenge Philly fornworst record.
Maybe not.  They were only bottom 5 last year, because half their roster got ravaged by injuries.  Starting to see the impact of having healthy RHJ and a mediocre supporting cast around Lopez.

Ravaged?
They lost a rookie who had little impact on the W/L column and Jarret Jack about half way through the season. Injuries had absolutely nothing to do with their result, the fact that they had one of the worst rosters and benches in the NBA was why they sucked lol.

You sound like one of those climate change deniers who just won't relent.
You're talking about a team that made the playoffs two straight years and lost some depth that was then exposed when they saw their star rookie limited to 29 games, saw their starting PG limited to 32 games, saw their former star guard limited to 57 games.  It was a perfect storm of disaster for Brooklyn and we benefited by landing a decent Tier-3 prospect with some theoretical potential out of it.   Here's hoping they end up ravaged by injuries again this year.   If the season ended today, the pick would be #14 right now.   It's concerning... especially when Linsanity returns from injury.   I'm worried that celticsclay might need to retroactively change the topic of his "The most talked about inconsequential trade?" thread to be about the highly regarded KG/Pierce to Brooklyn deal.  If all we get out of it is James YOung, a rookie averaging 7 points, and some mid-to-late first round draft picks, it'll be a big disappointment... especially if you subscribe to the idea that Boston was still a contender when KG and Pierce were moved, which I do not.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-5, #13 on 11/12)
Post by: tazzmaniac on November 14, 2016, 05:08:42 PM
I can't believe some people are panicking that the Nets won a few games (4!). Even with their torrid pace they are exactly"2" games ahead of the 3rd worse record in the league. Their schedule for the next 6 games (@Lakers; @Clippers, @OKC; vs Portland, vs. C's; @Indiana) is not all that promising for their continued dominance over the league, as only 1 team has a worse record by 1/2 game (Indiana). I see a back to reality moment for the Nets over the next two weeks.
They have like a quarter of the wins that they had last season, all within the first 1/8 of the season.

*shrug*

At one point they won 4 out of 5 last season which is far better than 4 out of 9. They still finished with 21 wins. The 4 best teams in the East right now are Cleveland, Charlotte, Atlanta and Toronto. The 4 best teams in the West right now are the Clips, Warriors, Spurs and Trail Blazers. They've faced exactly one of those teams during this time. No one they've beaten has a winning
record right now. 

So they're sub-.500 against a weak schedule. Big Deal. Here's the rest of the schedule for the month:

@LAC
@LAL
@OKC
POR
BOS
@IND
SAC
LAC

Every team besides Indy has a winning record. If they go 3-5, then worry. But that looks to me like (at best) a 2-6 or perhaps even 0-8 (and if they do that, they have the same record as they did at this time last year!).

Brooklyn looks like a bad team. Things even out. Relax.
The Kings also do not have a winning record.  The Nets look more competitive this year and there seem to be more bad teams this year (Lakers 8th in the West).  Three of the Nets losses are 5 points or less.  They are also shooting 16 more 3s per game and scoring 8 more PPG while their defense is basically the same.  Going into the season, it looked like the Nets were a lock for bottom 3 team.  Now it appears they are more like a 5th to 10th worst team. 
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-5, #13 on 11/12)
Post by: celticsclay on November 14, 2016, 05:18:33 PM
We're really counting on a Brook Lopez injury or trade, aren't we?

Sean Mays / Kenny Atkinson doing good work so far, all things considered.

We are.

This is all Obama's fault.

Mike

Theyll still be bottom 5 with Lopez healthy. If he goes down they'll challenge Philly fornworst record.
Maybe not.  They were only bottom 5 last year, because half their roster got ravaged by injuries.  Starting to see the impact of having healthy RHJ and a mediocre supporting cast around Lopez.

Ravaged?
They lost a rookie who had little impact on the W/L column and Jarret Jack about half way through the season. Injuries had absolutely nothing to do with their result, the fact that they had one of the worst rosters and benches in the NBA was why they sucked lol.

You sound like one of those climate change deniers who just won't relent.
You're talking about a team that made the playoffs two straight years and lost some depth that was then exposed when they saw their star rookie limited to 29 games, saw their starting PG limited to 32 games, saw their former star guard limited to 57 games.  It was a perfect storm of disaster for Brooklyn and we benefited by landing a decent Tier-3 prospect with some theoretical potential out of it.   Here's hoping they end up ravaged by injuries again this year.   If the season ended today, the pick would be #14 right now.   It's concerning... especially when Linsanity returns from injury.   I'm worried that celticsclay might need to retroactively change the topic of his "The most talked about inconsequential trade?" thread to be about the highly regarded KG/Pierce to Brooklyn deal.  If all we get out of it is James YOung, a rookie averaging 7 points, and some mid-to-late first round draft picks, it'll be a big disappointment... especially if you subscribe to the idea that Boston was still a contender when KG and Pierce were moved, which I do not.

Wait. So RHJ was a "star rookie" averaging 5.8 points, but Brown is "only" averaging 7 points. You really walked into that one... LOL
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-5, #13 on 11/12)
Post by: GratefulCs on November 14, 2016, 05:22:52 PM
We're really counting on a Brook Lopez injury or trade, aren't we?

Sean Mays / Kenny Atkinson doing good work so far, all things considered.

We are.

This is all Obama's fault.

Mike

Theyll still be bottom 5 with Lopez healthy. If he goes down they'll challenge Philly fornworst record.
Maybe not.  They were only bottom 5 last year, because half their roster got ravaged by injuries.  Starting to see the impact of having healthy RHJ and a mediocre supporting cast around Lopez.

Ravaged?
They lost a rookie who had little impact on the W/L column and Jarret Jack about half way through the season. Injuries had absolutely nothing to do with their result, the fact that they had one of the worst rosters and benches in the NBA was why they sucked lol.

You sound like one of those climate change deniers who just won't relent.
You're talking about a team that made the playoffs two straight years and lost some depth that was then exposed when they saw their star rookie limited to 29 games, saw their starting PG limited to 32 games, saw their former star guard limited to 57 games.  It was a perfect storm of disaster for Brooklyn and we benefited by landing a decent Tier-3 prospect with some theoretical potential out of it.   Here's hoping they end up ravaged by injuries again this year.   If the season ended today, the pick would be #14 right now.   It's concerning... especially when Linsanity returns from injury.   I'm worried that celticsclay might need to retroactively change the topic of his "The most talked about inconsequential trade?" thread to be about the highly regarded KG/Pierce to Brooklyn deal.  If all we get out of it is James YOung, a rookie averaging 7 points, and some mid-to-late first round draft picks, it'll be a big disappointment... especially if you subscribe to the idea that Boston was still a contender when KG and Pierce were moved, which I do not.

Wait. So RHJ was a "star rookie" averaging 5.8 points, but Brown is "only" averaging 7 points. You really walked into that one... LOL
i realize I might be ruining it by even mentioning it, but I think lar is going for the jinx (or reverse jinx)

At least I hope so


Otherwise there's too much weight being placed in these "narratives"
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-5, #13 on 11/12)
Post by: Granath on November 14, 2016, 05:26:00 PM
You're talking about a team that made the playoffs two straight years and lost some depth that was then exposed when they saw their star rookie limited to 29 games, saw their starting PG limited to 32 games, saw their former star guard limited to 57 games.  It was a perfect storm of disaster for Brooklyn and we benefited by landing a decent Tier-3 prospect with some theoretical potential out of it.   Here's hoping they end up ravaged by injuries again this year.   If the season ended today, the pick would be #14 right now.   It's concerning... especially when Linsanity returns from injury.   I'm worried that celticsclay might need to retroactively change the topic of his "The most talked about inconsequential trade?" thread to be about the highly regarded KG/Pierce to Brooklyn deal.  If all we get out of it is James YOung, a rookie averaging 7 points, and some mid-to-late first round draft picks, it'll be a big disappointment... especially if you subscribe to the idea that Boston was still a contender when KG and Pierce were moved, which I do not.

Trying to be selective about your facts doesn't make your statement true. Perhaps your thought process ends with only a surface level understanding of those facts but that doesn't apply to the rest of us.

"Playoff team" - one whose win totals had dropped from 49 to 44 to 38 games.This indicates a team already on a severe downside. Add in how they vastly over-performed in prior seasons as their expected win totals were 46 to 38 to 33 and the trend is very clear. Just because you predicted they'd make a playoff run doesn't mean their decline wasn't glaringly obvious to the rest of us. When I predicted they would win about 25 games it wasn't based on a guess. It was based on a regression to the mean, the increased talent in the Eastern Conf and a continuation of an existing and obvious trend. That's how real analysis is done.

"Star rookie" - drafted 23rd. Not exactly a top 5 talent we're talking about. Said star rookie is averaging 7 ppg this season. Which happens to be the same as James Young (and the same age). I don't think anyone is calling James Young a star.

"Starting PG" - also-ran PG and the team had the same record before and after the loss. There's no quantifiable statistic that showed the loss of Jack made the team worse in any way. They sucked before him. They sucked after him.

A perfect storm would have been losing Lopez and/or Young. Instead the Nets suffered minor injuries to bad or unproven players as does every team in the NBA. Big deal. That team wasn't winning more than 25 games unless they played against D-League teams all year.

You want to insist this because you were wrong ("the Nets are going to win 35 games"), we told you that you were wrong and you decided to stick your fingers in your ears and yell LA LA LA ICANTHEARYOU LA LA LA. Now that the Wins have been tallied and you look even more foolish you want desperately to cling to the notion that somehow their season was ruined by mysterious circumstances. It wasn't. They sucked. They were always going to suck. Get over it because whatever point you're trying to make is going to get lost in the absurdity of your assertions regarding last year's Nets team.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-5, #13 on 11/12)
Post by: LarBrd33 on November 14, 2016, 05:28:41 PM
We're really counting on a Brook Lopez injury or trade, aren't we?

Sean Mays / Kenny Atkinson doing good work so far, all things considered.

We are.

This is all Obama's fault.

Mike

Theyll still be bottom 5 with Lopez healthy. If he goes down they'll challenge Philly fornworst record.
Maybe not.  They were only bottom 5 last year, because half their roster got ravaged by injuries.  Starting to see the impact of having healthy RHJ and a mediocre supporting cast around Lopez.

Ravaged?
They lost a rookie who had little impact on the W/L column and Jarret Jack about half way through the season. Injuries had absolutely nothing to do with their result, the fact that they had one of the worst rosters and benches in the NBA was why they sucked lol.

You sound like one of those climate change deniers who just won't relent.
You're talking about a team that made the playoffs two straight years and lost some depth that was then exposed when they saw their star rookie limited to 29 games, saw their starting PG limited to 32 games, saw their former star guard limited to 57 games.  It was a perfect storm of disaster for Brooklyn and we benefited by landing a decent Tier-3 prospect with some theoretical potential out of it.   Here's hoping they end up ravaged by injuries again this year.   If the season ended today, the pick would be #14 right now.   It's concerning... especially when Linsanity returns from injury.   I'm worried that celticsclay might need to retroactively change the topic of his "The most talked about inconsequential trade?" thread to be about the highly regarded KG/Pierce to Brooklyn deal.  If all we get out of it is James YOung, a rookie averaging 7 points, and some mid-to-late first round draft picks, it'll be a big disappointment... especially if you subscribe to the idea that Boston was still a contender when KG and Pierce were moved, which I do not.

Wait. So RHJ was a "star rookie" averaging 5.8 points, but Brown is "only" averaging 7 points. You really walked into that one... LOL
RHJ had the best Defensive Rating on the entire team and was right behind Lopez in offensive rating.  His absence was sorely missed.    Jaylen Brown is bottom 5 on our team in defensive rating and bottom 4 in offensive rating. 

You can see Jefferson's impact in games like Saturday night when he had 20 points, 13 rebounds, 4 assists, 1 block and 1 steal in a win.

If Brooklyn keeps this type of play up, we'll struggle to have enough assets to trade for a star.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-5, #13 on 11/12)
Post by: LarBrd33 on November 14, 2016, 05:47:15 PM
Regardless of how you felt about this perennial playoff team's suprising injury-plagued misstep last year, I think we can all agree that Brook Lopez is still Brook Lopez.  Jeremy Lin is a significant upgrade over having no starting point guard at all (He's averaging 15 points, 6.2 assists, 4 rebounds and 1.4 assists with 45% shooting... far better than having literally nothing).   I think we can all agree that having arguably their best two-way player (Rondae Hollis-Jefferson) is a lot better than only having him for 32 games.   I think we can all agree that Bojan Bogdanovic's improvement can't be understated (averaging 13 points, 4 rebounds).   I think we can all agree that having Sean Kilpatrick (who averaged 14 points with 46%/36%/90% shooting and was limited to 23 games) is an upgrade over having no scoring off the bench... he's averaging 16 points, 5 rebounds and 3 assists with a very typical Kilpatrick-esque 44%/37%/83% shooting.   I think we can all agree that Trevor Booker (averaging 10 points, 9 rebounds, 2 assists, 2 steals and a block) is a significant upgrade over the supremely overrated Thad Young.  Addition by subtraction.   I think we can all agree that Luis Scola off the bench (he started 76 games last year) is a big upgrade over the injury-riddled body of Andre Bargnani off the bench (limited to just 13.8 minutes per game over the course of just 46 games last year).    Most importantly, we can all agree that Kenny Atkinson is a significant upgrade over the two coaches who took disasterous turns at running the Nets last year before both getting fired (Lionel Hollins and Tony Brown).   

Lastly, I think we can all agree that this potentially significantly improved Nets team could be the 2016 Los Angeles Lakers of the Eastern Conference and theoretically sneak into the playoffs.  If Americans learned anything in the past week, it's that none of us should be counting any chickens too soon.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-5, #13 on 11/12)
Post by: tankcity! on November 14, 2016, 06:01:48 PM
We're really counting on a Brook Lopez injury or trade, aren't we?

Sean Mays / Kenny Atkinson doing good work so far, all things considered.

We are.

This is all Obama's fault.

Mike

Theyll still be bottom 5 with Lopez healthy. If he goes down they'll challenge Philly fornworst record.
Maybe not.  They were only bottom 5 last year, because half their roster got ravaged by injuries.  Starting to see the impact of having healthy RHJ and a mediocre supporting cast around Lopez.

Ravaged?
They lost a rookie who had little impact on the W/L column and Jarret Jack about half way through the season. Injuries had absolutely nothing to do with their result, the fact that they had one of the worst rosters and benches in the NBA was why they sucked lol.

You sound like one of those climate change deniers who just won't relent.
You're talking about a team that made the playoffs two straight years and lost some depth that was then exposed when they saw their star rookie limited to 29 games, saw their starting PG limited to 32 games, saw their former star guard limited to 57 games.  It was a perfect storm of disaster for Brooklyn and we benefited by landing a decent Tier-3 prospect with some theoretical potential out of it.   Here's hoping they end up ravaged by injuries again this year.   If the season ended today, the pick would be #14 right now.   It's concerning... especially when Linsanity returns from injury.   I'm worried that celticsclay might need to retroactively change the topic of his "The most talked about inconsequential trade?" thread to be about the highly regarded KG/Pierce to Brooklyn deal.  If all we get out of it is James YOung, a rookie averaging 7 points, and some mid-to-late first round draft picks, it'll be a big disappointment... especially if you subscribe to the idea that Boston was still a contender when KG and Pierce were moved, which I do not.

Wait. So RHJ was a "star rookie" averaging 5.8 points, but Brown is "only" averaging 7 points. You really walked into that one... LOL
RHJ had the best Defensive Rating on the entire team and was right behind Lopez in offensive rating.  His absence was sorely missed.    Jaylen Brown is bottom 5 on our team in defensive rating and bottom 4 in offensive rating. 

You can see Jefferson's impact in games like Saturday night when he had 20 points, 13 rebounds, 4 assists, 1 block and 1 steal in a win.

If Brooklyn keeps this type of play up, we'll struggle to have enough assets to trade for a star.

I feel like everyone is ignoring this point. Sure Brooklyn may not make the playoffs and the pick ends up at the 8-12 range. Nobody wants that pick. We've had it before and traded it for freaking Telfair.

It's a sad year thus far. At least Smart is playing well, aka french fries. He looks like he's been eating french fries, that's for sure.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-5, #13 on 11/12)
Post by: chambers on November 14, 2016, 06:04:18 PM
We're really counting on a Brook Lopez injury or trade, aren't we?

Sean Mays / Kenny Atkinson doing good work so far, all things considered.

We are.

This is all Obama's fault.

Mike

Theyll still be bottom 5 with Lopez healthy. If he goes down they'll challenge Philly fornworst record.
Maybe not.  They were only bottom 5 last year, because half their roster got ravaged by injuries.  Starting to see the impact of having healthy RHJ and a mediocre supporting cast around Lopez.

Ravaged?
They lost a rookie who had little impact on the W/L column and Jarret Jack about half way through the season. Injuries had absolutely nothing to do with their result, the fact that they had one of the worst rosters and benches in the NBA was why they sucked lol.

You sound like one of those climate change deniers who just won't relent.
You're talking about a team that made the playoffs two straight years and lost some depth that was then exposed when they saw their star rookie limited to 29 games, saw their starting PG limited to 32 games, saw their former star guard limited to 57 games.  It was a perfect storm of disaster for Brooklyn and we benefited by landing a decent Tier-3 prospect with some theoretical potential out of it.   Here's hoping they end up ravaged by injuries again this year.   If the season ended today, the pick would be #14 right now.   It's concerning... especially when Linsanity returns from injury.   I'm worried that celticsclay might need to retroactively change the topic of his "The most talked about inconsequential trade?" thread to be about the highly regarded KG/Pierce to Brooklyn deal.  If all we get out of it is James YOung, a rookie averaging 7 points, and some mid-to-late first round draft picks, it'll be a big disappointment... especially if you subscribe to the idea that Boston was still a contender when KG and Pierce were moved, which I do not.

Wait. So RHJ was a "star rookie" averaging 5.8 points, but Brown is "only" averaging 7 points. You really walked into that one... LOL
RHJ had the best Defensive Rating on the entire team and was right behind Lopez in offensive rating.  His absence was sorely missed.    Jaylen Brown is bottom 5 on our team in defensive rating and bottom 4 in offensive rating. 

You can see Jefferson's impact in games like Saturday night when he had 20 points, 13 rebounds, 4 assists, 1 block and 1 steal in a win.

If Brooklyn keeps this type of play up, we'll struggle to have enough assets to trade for a star.


They still had their 3 best players for the entire season. They had their 6th man, Bogdanovic, for the entire season. They lost a rookie averaging 5 points with some defense, and their 32 year old scrub of a starting PG in Jarrett Jack.

Jarrett Jack was the worst starting point guard in the NBA last season. 26% from 3pt, 4.7 assists, and a +/- of -4.6 for the season. He was absolute trash and was one of the main reasons they were so poor.

They were simply not constructed to win many games. They had the 27th offensive rating and the 29th defensive rating.
Their bench included Andrea Bargani and Thomas Robinson and they literally had a 15 man rotation. In fact 13 of their players averaged over 15 minutes a game, and 10 of their players averaged 20 minutes a game.

You repeatedly stick to the 'decimated by injuries' argument, when we were all saying they weren't deep enough to withstand any injuries and it was why they would suck.

Again, Brook Lopez was healthy. Joe Johnson was healthy. Thadeus Young was healthy.
Shane Larkin took fewer shots, had better percentages, and had the same assist totals as Jack.

You must be trolling at this point.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-5, #13 on 11/12)
Post by: tankcity! on November 14, 2016, 06:06:34 PM
We're really counting on a Brook Lopez injury or trade, aren't we?

Sean Mays / Kenny Atkinson doing good work so far, all things considered.

We are.

This is all Obama's fault.

Mike

Theyll still be bottom 5 with Lopez healthy. If he goes down they'll challenge Philly fornworst record.
Maybe not.  They were only bottom 5 last year, because half their roster got ravaged by injuries.  Starting to see the impact of having healthy RHJ and a mediocre supporting cast around Lopez.

Ravaged?
They lost a rookie who had little impact on the W/L column and Jarret Jack about half way through the season. Injuries had absolutely nothing to do with their result, the fact that they had one of the worst rosters and benches in the NBA was why they sucked lol.

You sound like one of those climate change deniers who just won't relent.
You're talking about a team that made the playoffs two straight years and lost some depth that was then exposed when they saw their star rookie limited to 29 games, saw their starting PG limited to 32 games, saw their former star guard limited to 57 games.  It was a perfect storm of disaster for Brooklyn and we benefited by landing a decent Tier-3 prospect with some theoretical potential out of it.   Here's hoping they end up ravaged by injuries again this year.   If the season ended today, the pick would be #14 right now.   It's concerning... especially when Linsanity returns from injury.   I'm worried that celticsclay might need to retroactively change the topic of his "The most talked about inconsequential trade?" thread to be about the highly regarded KG/Pierce to Brooklyn deal.  If all we get out of it is James YOung, a rookie averaging 7 points, and some mid-to-late first round draft picks, it'll be a big disappointment... especially if you subscribe to the idea that Boston was still a contender when KG and Pierce were moved, which I do not.

Wait. So RHJ was a "star rookie" averaging 5.8 points, but Brown is "only" averaging 7 points. You really walked into that one... LOL
RHJ had the best Defensive Rating on the entire team and was right behind Lopez in offensive rating.  His absence was sorely missed.    Jaylen Brown is bottom 5 on our team in defensive rating and bottom 4 in offensive rating. 

You can see Jefferson's impact in games like Saturday night when he had 20 points, 13 rebounds, 4 assists, 1 block and 1 steal in a win.

If Brooklyn keeps this type of play up, we'll struggle to have enough assets to trade for a star.


They still had their 3 best players for the entire season. They had their 6th man, Bogdanovic, for the entire season. They lost a rookie averaging 5 points with some defense, and their 32 year old scrub of a starting PG in Jarrett Jack.

Jarrett Jack was the worst starting point guard in the NBA last season. 26% from 3pt, 4.7 assists, and a +/- of -4.6 for the season. He was absolute trash and was one of the main reasons they were so poor.

They were simply not constructed to win many games. They had the 27th offensive rating and the 29th defensive rating.
Their bench included Andrea Bargani and Thomas Robinson and they literally had a 15 man rotation. In fact 13 of their players averaged over 15 minutes a game, and 10 of their players averaged 20 minutes a game.

You repeatedly stick to the 'decimated by injuries' argument, when we were all saying they weren't deep enough to withstand any injuries and it was why they would suck.

Again, Brook Lopez was healthy. Joe Johnson was healthy. Thadeus Young was healthy.
Shane Larkin took fewer shots, had better percentages, and had the same assist totals as Jack.

You must be trolling at this point.

You're not taking into account how garbage of a coach Hollins was and how much better Atkinson is...It's pretty evident at this point the pick will not be a top 5 pick.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-5, #13 on 11/12)
Post by: LarBrd33 on November 14, 2016, 06:10:57 PM
We're really counting on a Brook Lopez injury or trade, aren't we?

Sean Mays / Kenny Atkinson doing good work so far, all things considered.

We are.

This is all Obama's fault.

Mike

Theyll still be bottom 5 with Lopez healthy. If he goes down they'll challenge Philly fornworst record.
Maybe not.  They were only bottom 5 last year, because half their roster got ravaged by injuries.  Starting to see the impact of having healthy RHJ and a mediocre supporting cast around Lopez.

Ravaged?
They lost a rookie who had little impact on the W/L column and Jarret Jack about half way through the season. Injuries had absolutely nothing to do with their result, the fact that they had one of the worst rosters and benches in the NBA was why they sucked lol.

You sound like one of those climate change deniers who just won't relent.
You're talking about a team that made the playoffs two straight years and lost some depth that was then exposed when they saw their star rookie limited to 29 games, saw their starting PG limited to 32 games, saw their former star guard limited to 57 games.  It was a perfect storm of disaster for Brooklyn and we benefited by landing a decent Tier-3 prospect with some theoretical potential out of it.   Here's hoping they end up ravaged by injuries again this year.   If the season ended today, the pick would be #14 right now.   It's concerning... especially when Linsanity returns from injury.   I'm worried that celticsclay might need to retroactively change the topic of his "The most talked about inconsequential trade?" thread to be about the highly regarded KG/Pierce to Brooklyn deal.  If all we get out of it is James YOung, a rookie averaging 7 points, and some mid-to-late first round draft picks, it'll be a big disappointment... especially if you subscribe to the idea that Boston was still a contender when KG and Pierce were moved, which I do not.

Wait. So RHJ was a "star rookie" averaging 5.8 points, but Brown is "only" averaging 7 points. You really walked into that one... LOL
RHJ had the best Defensive Rating on the entire team and was right behind Lopez in offensive rating.  His absence was sorely missed.    Jaylen Brown is bottom 5 on our team in defensive rating and bottom 4 in offensive rating. 

You can see Jefferson's impact in games like Saturday night when he had 20 points, 13 rebounds, 4 assists, 1 block and 1 steal in a win.

If Brooklyn keeps this type of play up, we'll struggle to have enough assets to trade for a star.

I feel like everyone is ignoring this point. Sure Brooklyn may not make the playoffs and the pick ends up at the 8-12 range. Nobody wants that pick. We've had it before and traded it for freaking Telfair.

It's a sad year thus far. At least Smart is playing well, aka french fries. He looks like he's been eating french fries, that's for sure.
Timing is everything.  We tried trading the 2016 Brooklyn pick for Okafor at the trade deadline and reportedly came very close, but Philly backed out.  Flash forward a few months, the pick falls outside the top 2, Boston passes on the popular Kris Dunn to take a multi-year project, and Okafor is looking better every game.  Did we blow it by not sweetening the offer back in February?  Maybe.   Likewise, did we have some offers on the table this SUmmer for the 2017 or 2018 Brooklyn picks that we turned down?  Are we going to regret it as Brooklyn threatens for a Playoffs spot?   I sure hope not.  Teams love the idea at landing an unprotected pick that has a chance to land at the top of a good draft.   It gets hairy when the pick falls outside the money zone.  The money zone was 2 picks deep last season.  I hope the money zone is deeper this draft.  For what it's worth, I saw on this Forum that Lonzo Ball is "the real deal" and draftexpress has him going #14 where the Brooklyn pick would fall if the season ended today.  If the money zone is actually that deep, that's encouraging.  Also, there's still a chance that Brooklyn gets ravaged by injuries again.  I'm don't like to wish for NBA players to get injured, but I really hope something happens.  Maybe they'll cash in on Lopez for draft picks and the team will plummet.  Crossing my fingers.   I hope my fears about the Nets are baseless.  I've learned to take nothing for granted in the year 2016, though.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-5, #13 on 11/12)
Post by: tazzmaniac on November 14, 2016, 06:33:42 PM
Lopez is apparently being sat out tonight against the Clippers.  Makes sense resting him in a game that they have little chance to win.  They sat him against the Bucks and ended up losing by two.  So this looks like a pattern to manage his minutes.  If he's going to miss 2 games out of 10 throughout the season that should be a nice boost for our Nets pick. 
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-5, #13 on 11/12)
Post by: LarBrd33 on November 14, 2016, 06:42:08 PM
Lopez is apparently being sat out tonight against the Clippers.  Makes sense resting him in a game that they have little chance to win.  They sat him against the Bucks and ended up losing by two.  So this looks like a pattern to manage his minutes.  If he's going to miss 2 games out of 10 throughout the season that should be a nice boost for our Nets pick.
Great news. 
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-5, #13 on 11/12)
Post by: SCeltic34 on November 14, 2016, 08:10:40 PM
We're really counting on a Brook Lopez injury or trade, aren't we?

Sean Mays / Kenny Atkinson doing good work so far, all things considered.

We are.

This is all Obama's fault.

Mike

Theyll still be bottom 5 with Lopez healthy. If he goes down they'll challenge Philly fornworst record.
Maybe not.  They were only bottom 5 last year, because half their roster got ravaged by injuries.  Starting to see the impact of having healthy RHJ and a mediocre supporting cast around Lopez.

Ravaged?
They lost a rookie who had little impact on the W/L column and Jarret Jack about half way through the season. Injuries had absolutely nothing to do with their result, the fact that they had one of the worst rosters and benches in the NBA was why they sucked lol.

You sound like one of those climate change deniers who just won't relent.
You're talking about a team that made the playoffs two straight years and lost some depth that was then exposed when they saw their star rookie limited to 29 games, saw their starting PG limited to 32 games, saw their former star guard limited to 57 games.  It was a perfect storm of disaster for Brooklyn and we benefited by landing a decent Tier-3 prospect with some theoretical potential out of it.   Here's hoping they end up ravaged by injuries again this year.   If the season ended today, the pick would be #14 right now.   It's concerning... especially when Linsanity returns from injury.   I'm worried that celticsclay might need to retroactively change the topic of his "The most talked about inconsequential trade?" thread to be about the highly regarded KG/Pierce to Brooklyn deal.  If all we get out of it is James YOung, a rookie averaging 7 points, and some mid-to-late first round draft picks, it'll be a big disappointment... especially if you subscribe to the idea that Boston was still a contender when KG and Pierce were moved, which I do not.

Wait. So RHJ was a "star rookie" averaging 5.8 points, but Brown is "only" averaging 7 points. You really walked into that one... LOL
RHJ had the best Defensive Rating on the entire team and was right behind Lopez in offensive rating.  His absence was sorely missed.    Jaylen Brown is bottom 5 on our team in defensive rating and bottom 4 in offensive rating. 

You can see Jefferson's impact in games like Saturday night when he had 20 points, 13 rebounds, 4 assists, 1 block and 1 steal in a win.

If Brooklyn keeps this type of play up, we'll struggle to have enough assets to trade for a star.


They still had their 3 best players for the entire season. They had their 6th man, Bogdanovic, for the entire season. They lost a rookie averaging 5 points with some defense, and their 32 year old scrub of a starting PG in Jarrett Jack.

Jarrett Jack was the worst starting point guard in the NBA last season. 26% from 3pt, 4.7 assists, and a +/- of -4.6 for the season. He was absolute trash and was one of the main reasons they were so poor.

They were simply not constructed to win many games. They had the 27th offensive rating and the 29th defensive rating.
Their bench included Andrea Bargani and Thomas Robinson and they literally had a 15 man rotation. In fact 13 of their players averaged over 15 minutes a game, and 10 of their players averaged 20 minutes a game.

You repeatedly stick to the 'decimated by injuries' argument, when we were all saying they weren't deep enough to withstand any injuries and it was why they would suck.

Again, Brook Lopez was healthy. Joe Johnson was healthy. Thadeus Young was healthy.
Shane Larkin took fewer shots, had better percentages, and had the same assist totals as Jack.

You must be trolling at this point.

This has already been argued to death.  The fact is they won only 21 games, and at no point last season were the Nets - healthy or not - on pace to win 35 games.  Argument over.

What is slightly concerning this season is the Nets actually have played some really good ball in the games that they won, whereas last season they basically looked like trash the entire way.  Atkinson is getting the most out of that team for sure.  Still, there's 73 games left in the season and their schedule gets tougher.  A lot can change across the league.  Teams are still finding themselves. I think that the Nets will finish in the bottom 5, especially if they're going to sit Lopez out a bunch of games.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-5, #13 on 11/12)
Post by: kraidstar on November 14, 2016, 08:44:58 PM
The Nets are like a European team playing against Team USA in the Olympics.

They have little quality talent, so they jack up a ton of threes. Sometimes those threes might carry them to victory.

They are 3rd in the league with 34.2 3pt attempts per game, despite being just 19th in overall FG attempted per game.

But there is precious little slashing or defensive talent there. Once opposing teams start scheming for that, the Nets will be in for a much tougher time.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-5, #13 on 11/12)
Post by: Redz on November 14, 2016, 11:12:51 PM
Clippers up 39-14 after 1. 

Looks like the Nets and Celts won't be tied in the standings after tonight.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-5, #13 on 11/12)
Post by: libermaniac on November 14, 2016, 11:23:54 PM
Clippers up 39-14 after 1. 

Looks like the Nets and Celts won't be tied in the standings after tonight.
Finally a night we can just relax and chalk up the L.  They've been pi$$ing me off with their scrappy play.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-5, #13 on 11/12)
Post by: celticsclay on November 14, 2016, 11:25:15 PM
We're really counting on a Brook Lopez injury or trade, aren't we?

Sean Mays / Kenny Atkinson doing good work so far, all things considered.

We are.

This is all Obama's fault.

Mike

Theyll still be bottom 5 with Lopez healthy. If he goes down they'll challenge Philly fornworst record.
Maybe not.  They were only bottom 5 last year, because half their roster got ravaged by injuries.  Starting to see the impact of having healthy RHJ and a mediocre supporting cast around Lopez.

Ravaged?
They lost a rookie who had little impact on the W/L column and Jarret Jack about half way through the season. Injuries had absolutely nothing to do with their result, the fact that they had one of the worst rosters and benches in the NBA was why they sucked lol.

You sound like one of those climate change deniers who just won't relent.
You're talking about a team that made the playoffs two straight years and lost some depth that was then exposed when they saw their star rookie limited to 29 games, saw their starting PG limited to 32 games, saw their former star guard limited to 57 games.  It was a perfect storm of disaster for Brooklyn and we benefited by landing a decent Tier-3 prospect with some theoretical potential out of it.   Here's hoping they end up ravaged by injuries again this year.   If the season ended today, the pick would be #14 right now.   It's concerning... especially when Linsanity returns from injury.   I'm worried that celticsclay might need to retroactively change the topic of his "The most talked about inconsequential trade?" thread to be about the highly regarded KG/Pierce to Brooklyn deal.  If all we get out of it is James YOung, a rookie averaging 7 points, and some mid-to-late first round draft picks, it'll be a big disappointment... especially if you subscribe to the idea that Boston was still a contender when KG and Pierce were moved, which I do not.

Wait. So RHJ was a "star rookie" averaging 5.8 points, but Brown is "only" averaging 7 points. You really walked into that one... LOL
RHJ had the best Defensive Rating on the entire team and was right behind Lopez in offensive rating.  His absence was sorely missed.    Jaylen Brown is bottom 5 on our team in defensive rating and bottom 4 in offensive rating. 

You can see Jefferson's impact in games like Saturday night when he had 20 points, 13 rebounds, 4 assists, 1 block and 1 steal in a win.

If Brooklyn keeps this type of play up, we'll struggle to have enough assets to trade for a star.


They still had their 3 best players for the entire season. They had their 6th man, Bogdanovic, for the entire season. They lost a rookie averaging 5 points with some defense, and their 32 year old scrub of a starting PG in Jarrett Jack.

Jarrett Jack was the worst starting point guard in the NBA last season. 26% from 3pt, 4.7 assists, and a +/- of -4.6 for the season. He was absolute trash and was one of the main reasons they were so poor.

They were simply not constructed to win many games. They had the 27th offensive rating and the 29th defensive rating.
Their bench included Andrea Bargani and Thomas Robinson and they literally had a 15 man rotation. In fact 13 of their players averaged over 15 minutes a game, and 10 of their players averaged 20 minutes a game.

You repeatedly stick to the 'decimated by injuries' argument, when we were all saying they weren't deep enough to withstand any injuries and it was why they would suck.

Again, Brook Lopez was healthy. Joe Johnson was healthy. Thadeus Young was healthy.
Shane Larkin took fewer shots, had better percentages, and had the same assist totals as Jack.

You must be trolling at this point.

This has already been argued to death.  The fact is they won only 21 games, and at no point last season were the Nets - healthy or not - on pace to win 35 games.  Argument over.

What is slightly concerning this season is the Nets actually have played some really good ball in the games that they won, whereas last season they basically looked like trash the entire way.  Atkinson is getting the most out of that team for sure.  Still, there's 73 games left in the season and their schedule gets tougher.  A lot can change across the league.  Teams are still finding themselves. I think that the Nets will finish in the bottom 5, especially if they're going to sit Lopez out a bunch of games.
people that are being serious realize the nets had unbelievably good health last year. Don't let some jokes from lb make you feel otherwise. I wish they had actually been ravaged. We would have got Ben Simmons!
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-5, #13 on 11/12)
Post by: Denis998 on November 14, 2016, 11:38:15 PM
We're really counting on a Brook Lopez injury or trade, aren't we?

Sean Mays / Kenny Atkinson doing good work so far, all things considered.

We are.

This is all Obama's fault.

Mike

Theyll still be bottom 5 with Lopez healthy. If he goes down they'll challenge Philly fornworst record.
Maybe not.  They were only bottom 5 last year, because half their roster got ravaged by injuries.  Starting to see the impact of having healthy RHJ and a mediocre supporting cast around Lopez.

Ravaged?
They lost a rookie who had little impact on the W/L column and Jarret Jack about half way through the season. Injuries had absolutely nothing to do with their result, the fact that they had one of the worst rosters and benches in the NBA was why they sucked lol.

You sound like one of those climate change deniers who just won't relent.
You're talking about a team that made the playoffs two straight years and lost some depth that was then exposed when they saw their star rookie limited to 29 games, saw their starting PG limited to 32 games, saw their former star guard limited to 57 games.  It was a perfect storm of disaster for Brooklyn and we benefited by landing a decent Tier-3 prospect with some theoretical potential out of it.   Here's hoping they end up ravaged by injuries again this year.   If the season ended today, the pick would be #14 right now.   It's concerning... especially when Linsanity returns from injury.   I'm worried that celticsclay might need to retroactively change the topic of his "The most talked about inconsequential trade?" thread to be about the highly regarded KG/Pierce to Brooklyn deal.  If all we get out of it is James YOung, a rookie averaging 7 points, and some mid-to-late first round draft picks, it'll be a big disappointment... especially if you subscribe to the idea that Boston was still a contender when KG and Pierce were moved, which I do not.

Wait. So RHJ was a "star rookie" averaging 5.8 points, but Brown is "only" averaging 7 points. You really walked into that one... LOL
RHJ had the best Defensive Rating on the entire team and was right behind Lopez in offensive rating.  His absence was sorely missed.    Jaylen Brown is bottom 5 on our team in defensive rating and bottom 4 in offensive rating. 

You can see Jefferson's impact in games like Saturday night when he had 20 points, 13 rebounds, 4 assists, 1 block and 1 steal in a win.

If Brooklyn keeps this type of play up, we'll struggle to have enough assets to trade for a star.


They still had their 3 best players for the entire season. They had their 6th man, Bogdanovic, for the entire season. They lost a rookie averaging 5 points with some defense, and their 32 year old scrub of a starting PG in Jarrett Jack.

Jarrett Jack was the worst starting point guard in the NBA last season. 26% from 3pt, 4.7 assists, and a +/- of -4.6 for the season. He was absolute trash and was one of the main reasons they were so poor.

They were simply not constructed to win many games. They had the 27th offensive rating and the 29th defensive rating.
Their bench included Andrea Bargani and Thomas Robinson and they literally had a 15 man rotation. In fact 13 of their players averaged over 15 minutes a game, and 10 of their players averaged 20 minutes a game.

You repeatedly stick to the 'decimated by injuries' argument, when we were all saying they weren't deep enough to withstand any injuries and it was why they would suck.

Again, Brook Lopez was healthy. Joe Johnson was healthy. Thadeus Young was healthy.
Shane Larkin took fewer shots, had better percentages, and had the same assist totals as Jack.

You must be trolling at this point.

This has already been argued to death.  The fact is they won only 21 games, and at no point last season were the Nets - healthy or not - on pace to win 35 games.  Argument over.

What is slightly concerning this season is the Nets actually have played some really good ball in the games that they won, whereas last season they basically looked like trash the entire way.  Atkinson is getting the most out of that team for sure.  Still, there's 73 games left in the season and their schedule gets tougher.  A lot can change across the league.  Teams are still finding themselves. I think that the Nets will finish in the bottom 5, especially if they're going to sit Lopez out a bunch of games.
people that are being serious realize the nets had unbelievably good health last year. Don't let some jokes from lb make you feel otherwise. I wish they had actually been ravaged. We would have got Ben Simmons!
Last season Brooklyn lost RHJ, Jack, Dwill, Johnson, and Lopez/Young
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-5, #13 on 11/12)
Post by: celticsclay on November 15, 2016, 12:06:58 AM
We're really counting on a Brook Lopez injury or trade, aren't we?

Sean Mays / Kenny Atkinson doing good work so far, all things considered.

We are.

This is all Obama's fault.

Mike

Theyll still be bottom 5 with Lopez healthy. If he goes down they'll challenge Philly fornworst record.
Maybe not.  They were only bottom 5 last year, because half their roster got ravaged by injuries.  Starting to see the impact of having healthy RHJ and a mediocre supporting cast around Lopez.

Ravaged?
They lost a rookie who had little impact on the W/L column and Jarret Jack about half way through the season. Injuries had absolutely nothing to do with their result, the fact that they had one of the worst rosters and benches in the NBA was why they sucked lol.

You sound like one of those climate change deniers who just won't relent.
You're talking about a team that made the playoffs two straight years and lost some depth that was then exposed when they saw their star rookie limited to 29 games, saw their starting PG limited to 32 games, saw their former star guard limited to 57 games.  It was a perfect storm of disaster for Brooklyn and we benefited by landing a decent Tier-3 prospect with some theoretical potential out of it.   Here's hoping they end up ravaged by injuries again this year.   If the season ended today, the pick would be #14 right now.   It's concerning... especially when Linsanity returns from injury.   I'm worried that celticsclay might need to retroactively change the topic of his "The most talked about inconsequential trade?" thread to be about the highly regarded KG/Pierce to Brooklyn deal.  If all we get out of it is James YOung, a rookie averaging 7 points, and some mid-to-late first round draft picks, it'll be a big disappointment... especially if you subscribe to the idea that Boston was still a contender when KG and Pierce were moved, which I do not.

Wait. So RHJ was a "star rookie" averaging 5.8 points, but Brown is "only" averaging 7 points. You really walked into that one... LOL
RHJ had the best Defensive Rating on the entire team and was right behind Lopez in offensive rating.  His absence was sorely missed.    Jaylen Brown is bottom 5 on our team in defensive rating and bottom 4 in offensive rating. 

You can see Jefferson's impact in games like Saturday night when he had 20 points, 13 rebounds, 4 assists, 1 block and 1 steal in a win.

If Brooklyn keeps this type of play up, we'll struggle to have enough assets to trade for a star.


They still had their 3 best players for the entire season. They had their 6th man, Bogdanovic, for the entire season. They lost a rookie averaging 5 points with some defense, and their 32 year old scrub of a starting PG in Jarrett Jack.

Jarrett Jack was the worst starting point guard in the NBA last season. 26% from 3pt, 4.7 assists, and a +/- of -4.6 for the season. He was absolute trash and was one of the main reasons they were so poor.

They were simply not constructed to win many games. They had the 27th offensive rating and the 29th defensive rating.
Their bench included Andrea Bargani and Thomas Robinson and they literally had a 15 man rotation. In fact 13 of their players averaged over 15 minutes a game, and 10 of their players averaged 20 minutes a game.

You repeatedly stick to the 'decimated by injuries' argument, when we were all saying they weren't deep enough to withstand any injuries and it was why they would suck.

Again, Brook Lopez was healthy. Joe Johnson was healthy. Thadeus Young was healthy.
Shane Larkin took fewer shots, had better percentages, and had the same assist totals as Jack.

You must be trolling at this point.

This has already been argued to death.  The fact is they won only 21 games, and at no point last season were the Nets - healthy or not - on pace to win 35 games.  Argument over.

What is slightly concerning this season is the Nets actually have played some really good ball in the games that they won, whereas last season they basically looked like trash the entire way.  Atkinson is getting the most out of that team for sure.  Still, there's 73 games left in the season and their schedule gets tougher.  A lot can change across the league.  Teams are still finding themselves. I think that the Nets will finish in the bottom 5, especially if they're going to sit Lopez out a bunch of games.
people that are being serious realize the nets had unbelievably good health last year. Don't let some jokes from lb make you feel otherwise. I wish they had actually been ravaged. We would have got Ben Simmons!
Last season Brooklyn lost RHJ, Jack, Dwill, Johnson, and Lopez/Young
umm. Do you actually follow the nets? Not trying to be a jerk but being a fairy invested Celtics fan it is hard to believe you would t realize deron Williams was cut before the season. Also Johnson was not injured he was waived and had good health when he was on the nets. Lopez and young were healthy the entire season and were rested at the very end (Lopez will rest even more this year). So yeah... pretty far off on that post.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-5, #13 on 11/12)
Post by: LarBrd33 on November 15, 2016, 12:39:18 AM
Clippers up 39-14 after 1. 

Looks like the Nets and Celts won't be tied in the standings after tonight.
Finally a night we can just relax and chalk up the L.  They've been pi$$ing me off with their scrappy play.
yes let's hope Lopez misses more games like tonight.  Last year proved that the nets can be surprisingly terrible when many of their key players don't suit up.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-5, #13 on 11/12)
Post by: celticsclay on November 15, 2016, 12:43:17 AM
Clippers up 39-14 after 1. 

Looks like the Nets and Celts won't be tied in the standings after tonight.
Finally a night we can just relax and chalk up the L.  They've been pi$$ing me off with their scrappy play.
yes let's hope Lopez misses more games like tonight.  Last year proved that the nets can be surprisingly terrible when many of their key players don't suit up.
lol so ridiculous
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-5, #13 on 11/12)
Post by: GratefulCs on November 15, 2016, 12:44:33 AM
Clippers up 39-14 after 1. 

Looks like the Nets and Celts won't be tied in the standings after tonight.
Finally a night we can just relax and chalk up the L.  They've been pi$$ing me off with their scrappy play.
yes let's hope Lopez misses more games like tonight.  Last year proved that the nets can be surprisingly terrible when many of their key players don't suit up.
we gotta fresh take right here yall
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-5, #13 on 11/12)
Post by: celticsclay on November 15, 2016, 01:19:50 AM
Clippers up 39-14 after 1. 

Looks like the Nets and Celts won't be tied in the standings after tonight.
Finally a night we can just relax and chalk up the L.  They've been pi$$ing me off with their scrappy play.
yes let's hope Lopez misses more games like tonight.  Last year proved that the nets can be surprisingly terrible when many of their key players don't suit up.
we gotta fresh take right here yall
lol I can't wait till they do the 30 for 30 on how the nets were decimated with injuries to their journeyman point guard and late first round pick. It has to be the most injury riddled season in the history of sports to lose 2 players like that.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-5, #13 on 11/12)
Post by: GratefulCs on November 15, 2016, 01:38:07 AM
Clippers up 39-14 after 1. 

Looks like the Nets and Celts won't be tied in the standings after tonight.
Finally a night we can just relax and chalk up the L.  They've been pi$$ing me off with their scrappy play.
yes let's hope Lopez misses more games like tonight.  Last year proved that the nets can be surprisingly terrible when many of their key players don't suit up.
we gotta fresh take right here yall
lol I can't wait till they do the 30 for 30 on how the nets were decimated with injuries to their journeyman point guard and late first round pick. It has to be the most injury riddled season in the history of sports to lose 2 players like that.
we need a 30 for 30 on larbrd33


30 fpr 30:The Man Behind The Dingers
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-5, #13 on 11/12)
Post by: celticsclay on November 15, 2016, 01:41:23 AM
Clippers up 39-14 after 1. 

Looks like the Nets and Celts won't be tied in the standings after tonight.
Finally a night we can just relax and chalk up the L.  They've been pi$$ing me off with their scrappy play.
yes let's hope Lopez misses more games like tonight.  Last year proved that the nets can be surprisingly terrible when many of their key players don't suit up.
we gotta fresh take right here yall
lol I can't wait till they do the 30 for 30 on how the nets were decimated with injuries to their journeyman point guard and late first round pick. It has to be the most injury riddled season in the history of sports to lose 2 players like that.
we need a 30 for 30 on larbrd33


30 fpr 30:The Man Behind The Dingers
I would love that. He was firing heat today!
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-5, #13 on 11/12)
Post by: alldaboston on November 15, 2016, 01:44:16 AM
Clippers up 39-14 after 1. 

Looks like the Nets and Celts won't be tied in the standings after tonight.
Finally a night we can just relax and chalk up the L.  They've been pi$$ing me off with their scrappy play.
yes let's hope Lopez misses more games like tonight.  Last year proved that the nets can be surprisingly terrible when many of their key players don't suit up.
we gotta fresh take right here yall
lol I can't wait till they do the 30 for 30 on how the nets were decimated with injuries to their journeyman point guard and late first round pick. It has to be the most injury riddled season in the history of sports to lose 2 players like that.
we need a 30 for 30 on larbrd33


30 fpr 30:The Man Behind The Dingers

haha i would love this! let's make it a reality, LarBrd!
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-5, #13 on 11/12)
Post by: Granath on November 15, 2016, 07:09:10 AM
Clippers up 39-14 after 1. 

Looks like the Nets and Celts won't be tied in the standings after tonight.
Finally a night we can just relax and chalk up the L.  They've been pi$$ing me off with their scrappy play.
yes let's hope Lopez misses more games like tonight.  Last year proved that the nets can be surprisingly terrible when many of their key players don't suit up.

The more you insist this, the more credibility you lose.

That is if you have any left at this point anyway.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-5, #13 on 11/12)
Post by: celticsclay on November 15, 2016, 12:53:20 PM
Clippers up 39-14 after 1. 

Looks like the Nets and Celts won't be tied in the standings after tonight.
Finally a night we can just relax and chalk up the L.  They've been pi$$ing me off with their scrappy play.
yes let's hope Lopez misses more games like tonight.  Last year proved that the nets can be surprisingly terrible when many of their key players don't suit up.

The more you insist this, the more credibility you lose.

That is if you have any left at this point anyway.
it's just a joke. If we lost RJ Hunter and sullinger for a stretch last year nobody would say we were ravaged by injuries. It's a pretty good comedy bit
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-5, #13 on 11/12)
Post by: mef730 on November 15, 2016, 01:40:30 PM
Clippers up 39-14 after 1. 

Looks like the Nets and Celts won't be tied in the standings after tonight.

No kidding. Any game in which I hear, "The Nets have had a 10-0 run to pull within 17" is okay with me.

Mike
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-5, #13 on 11/12)
Post by: LarBrd33 on November 15, 2016, 02:34:00 PM
Clippers up 39-14 after 1. 

Looks like the Nets and Celts won't be tied in the standings after tonight.
Finally a night we can just relax and chalk up the L.  They've been pi$$ing me off with their scrappy play.
yes let's hope Lopez misses more games like tonight.  Last year proved that the nets can be surprisingly terrible when many of their key players don't suit up.

The more you insist this, the more credibility you lose.

That is if you have any left at this point anyway.
oh no... not my credibility!  How will I ever be a successful Celtic fan without my credibility ?
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-6, #11 on 11/14)
Post by: GC003332 on November 16, 2016, 12:56:57 AM
The Lake Show winning is wonderful
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-6, #11 on 11/14)
Post by: Rondo9 on November 16, 2016, 01:26:50 AM
The Lake Show winning is wonderful

For once.  ;)
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-6, #11 on 11/14)
Post by: alldaboston on November 16, 2016, 01:32:47 AM
The Lake Show winning is wonderful

I dont know, i kinda find myself rooting for them. it's weird, since as a celtics fan im not supposed to, but theyre really fun to watch, and i like some of their players. so for me, this win was extra special
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-6, #11 on 11/14)
Post by: mr. dee on November 16, 2016, 05:46:22 AM
The Lake Show winning is wonderful

I dont know, i kinda find myself rooting for them. it's weird, since as a celtics fan im not supposed to, but theyre really fun to watch, and i like some of their players. so for me, this win was extra special

Nothing wrong with rooting for Lakers. They are our respected rival. You would want them to be just as good as us. Who wouldn't want another Lakers-Celtics finals? Both teams still have ways to go before truly contending for another championship.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-7, #9 on 11/15)
Post by: mr. dee on November 18, 2016, 02:38:55 AM
Today is a pretty good day for our BKN pick

- Wizards won
- Heat won
- Wolves won

The brings them a tie with the Nets. We just need to see the Nets lose against OKC.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-7, #9 on 11/15)
Post by: The One on November 18, 2016, 07:13:00 AM
Just listened to Nate Duncan and Danny Leroux...

Some points they brought out:

1.  They are surviving on math offensively....just chuck up threes and some have to go in.
2.  They can't stop anyone defensively.
3.  Lopez is a perpetual injury concern.
4.  Scouting will catch up to their three point only offense.

So it would seem they are going to get worse as time goes on.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-7, #9 on 11/15)
Post by: chambers on November 18, 2016, 07:51:03 AM
Just listened to Nate Duncan and Danny Leroux...

Some points they brought out:

1.  They are surviving on math offensively....just chuck up threes and some have to go in.
2.  They can't stop anyone defensively.
3.  Lopez is a perpetual injury concern.
4.  Scouting will catch up to their three point only offense.

So it would seem they are going to get worse as time goes on.

sounds about right to me. I would also add that Jeremy Lin is going to ultimately hurt their 3 point chuck and pray scheme. He holds the ball up too much and doesn't kick out enough help their 3 pt offense.
Losing Thad Young will be a big deal to them down the stretch. He was an ironman and extremely reliable on both ends. Ala Brandon Bass in 2010. Losing a player of that caliber on a team that poor,now that's how your team gets worse.

Jeremy Lin is a trade asset. Inflate his numbers on an awful team, sign him to what some dumb GM might think is a good deal in one years time when the cap reality sets in, and hope to get a first round pick out of him for your work.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-7, #9 on 11/15)
Post by: Phantom255x on November 18, 2016, 08:52:12 PM
Umm guys, the Nets are beating the Thunder 51-43 right now..
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-7, #9 on 11/15)
Post by: GratefulCs on November 18, 2016, 09:07:49 PM
Umm guys, the Nets are beating the Thunder 51-43 right now..
thunder with the lead now!
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-7, #9 on 11/15)
Post by: Phantom255x on November 18, 2016, 09:10:21 PM
Umm guys, the Nets are beating the Thunder 51-43 right now..
thunder with the lead now!

Yep great to see. Now let's hope they hold it.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-7, #9 on 11/15)
Post by: GratefulCs on November 18, 2016, 09:50:29 PM
Umm guys, the Nets are beating the Thunder 51-43 right now..
thunder with the lead now!

Yep great to see. Now let's hope they hold it.
Hope and pray

honestly, the thunder/nets game is way more important than C's/warriors
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-7, #9 on 11/15)
Post by: mqtcelticsfan on November 18, 2016, 10:57:20 PM
I'm beginning to think some people may have overreacted to the first few Brooklyn games.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-7, #9 on 11/15)
Post by: TheSundanceKid on November 19, 2016, 03:15:43 PM
I'm beginning to think some people may have overreacted to the first few Brooklyn games.

Surely that's not possible? People don't make irrational judgements on small sample sizes do they? :P
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-8, #9 on 11/18)
Post by: Big333223 on November 19, 2016, 06:09:50 PM
Through 12 games, they're on pace for 27 wins which would've been the 5th worst record in the league last year. I expect that's about where they'll wind up.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-8, #9 on 11/18)
Post by: Phantom255x on November 19, 2016, 07:35:33 PM
Through 12 games, they're on pace for 27 wins which would've been the 5th worst record in the league last year. I expect that's about where they'll wind up.

Fine with that. It's a DEEP DRAFT. Hopefully a big is available around then. Also hope for some lottery luck lol.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-7, #9 on 11/15)
Post by: csfansince60s on November 19, 2016, 08:08:08 PM


Jeremy Lin is a trade asset. Inflate his numbers on an awful team, sign him to what some dumb GM might think is a good deal in one years time when the cap reality sets in, and hope to get a first round pick out of him for your work.

 I would have agreed with this, and it is a well reasoned thought.

I just read this on RealGM, though, and I think Lin has found a home for life in the BK. ( I have to admit that I have a soft spot for Lin, too, as I attended a lot of his college (home) games, and he's a class kid.)

New York Post wrote:
Jeremy Lin has raised the Nets’ profile — and their bottom line

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The Nets didn’t have much direction — other than possibly straight down — before Marks’ arrival. But fans have been engaged by their grit, and the addition of Lin, one of the biggest social media profiles in the entire NBA, has helped as well.

The Nets have signed a number of new commercial partners, with sources telling The Post a half-dozen of them came on board specifically because of Lin. Neither the NBA nor the Nets provided specific figures for Lin’s jersey sales, but sources in both the league and the team confirmed he’s the team’s leading seller.

Lin finished second in the NBA in jersey sales in 2012, essentially selling more in the three months of Linsanity with the Knicks than all but one NBA star had all season. No Net cracked the top 20 last season, but the uber-popular point guard did despite starting just 13 games for the Hornets in Charlotte, a city with less than one-tenth the population of New York.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-8, #9 on 11/18)
Post by: SHAQATTACK on November 19, 2016, 08:08:27 PM
Through 12 games, they're on pace for 27 wins which would've been the 5th worst record in the league last year. I expect that's about where they'll wind up.

Fine with that. It's a DEEP DRAFT. Hopefully a big is available around then. Also hope for some lottery luck lol.

If stupid Danny takes another small man ......I ll be chewing nails .   Unless it MJ or Kobe reincarnated.....he d better take the best center available .....for once please.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-8, #9 on 11/18)
Post by: LarBrd33 on November 19, 2016, 08:43:59 PM
They are undefeated in games where Jeremy Lin and Brook Lopez both play and Lopez gets at least 25 minutes. 

Not looking forward to Lin returning from injury. 
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-8, #9 on 11/18)
Post by: Vox_Populi on November 20, 2016, 03:44:52 PM
Portland should win this afternoon.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-8, #9 on 11/18)
Post by: mahcus smaht on November 20, 2016, 03:47:11 PM
They are undefeated in games where Jeremy Lin and Brook Lopez both play and Lopez gets at least 25 minutes. 

Not looking forward to Lin returning from injury.
2-0

but yea
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-8, #9 on 11/18)
Post by: CroCorvus on November 20, 2016, 03:58:34 PM
This gonna be close. They trading baskets. >:(
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-8, #9 on 11/18)
Post by: Bucketgetter on November 20, 2016, 04:31:30 PM
Lopez is such a beast offensively.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-8, #9 on 11/18)
Post by: celticsclay on November 20, 2016, 04:37:18 PM
They are undefeated in games where Jeremy Lin and Brook Lopez both play and Lopez gets at least 25 minutes. 

Not looking forward to Lin returning from injury.

Lol and they never lost on the third Tuesday of November!
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-8, #9 on 11/18)
Post by: Vox_Populi on November 20, 2016, 04:43:59 PM
Good guy Evan Turner finally not playing like trash to try and help the Celtics.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-8, #9 on 11/18)
Post by: libermaniac on November 20, 2016, 05:22:25 PM
4-9 = 25 win pace
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-8, #9 on 11/18)
Post by: The One on November 20, 2016, 06:12:19 PM
If a Nets opponent has any type of defensive execution, they have a real chance of easily beating this team.

The Nets are a BAD defensive team and that's music to my ears.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-8, #9 on 11/18)
Post by: mef730 on November 20, 2016, 06:26:03 PM
They are undefeated in games where Jeremy Lin and Brook Lopez both play and Lopez gets at least 25 minutes. 

Not looking forward to Lin returning from injury.

Lol and they never lost on the third Tuesday of November!

Not the dreaded third Tuesday in November rule!

Mike
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-8, #9 on 11/18)
Post by: moiso on November 20, 2016, 07:26:29 PM
They are undefeated in games where Jeremy Lin and Brook Lopez both play and Lopez gets at least 25 minutes. 

Not looking forward to Lin returning from injury.
2-0

but yea
Ravaged by injury yet again!
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-8, #9 on 11/18)
Post by: Ilikesports17 on November 20, 2016, 07:35:17 PM
They are undefeated in games where Jeremy Lin and Brook Lopez both play and Lopez gets at least 25 minutes. 

Not looking forward to Lin returning from injury.
2-0

but yea
Ravaged by injury yet again!
With Jeremy Lin, they ARE a much better team. Still probably the least talented team in the NBA, but much better.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-8, #9 on 11/18)
Post by: Vermont Green on November 20, 2016, 08:08:00 PM
In the East, I see only Philly yet again to be lower in the standings but we shall see when Simmons comes back.  They may end up better than the Nets but I see them in the tank running all season.  I think Washington will be a decent team as well as Miami and MIL all out of the tank running eventually.

In the West, I expect Dallas to improve significantly when Dirk comes back but if that injury lingers, who knows.  PHO does have some veteran talent and could have runs but I think they will stay in the tank hunt.  NOP will improve IMO and will be out of the tank discussion fairly soon.

So based on that, I think the bottom 4 tankers are BKN, PHI, PHO, and DAL.  I still like our chances with these picks.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-8, #9 on 11/18)
Post by: chambers on November 20, 2016, 08:23:19 PM
They are undefeated in games where Jeremy Lin and Brook Lopez both play and Lopez gets at least 25 minutes. 

Not looking forward to Lin returning from injury.
2-0

but yea
Ravaged by injury yet again!
With Jeremy Lin, they ARE a much better team. Still probably the least talented team in the NBA, but much better.

I don't think they are. He's awful. He's inefficient, holds the ball, stalls their passing which is key to their 'chuck as many 3's up and hope we shoot over 35%' nightly gameplan.
Yeah he'll get his 14 points and 5 or 6 assists but they are going to be better when their entire roster is involved and their shooters are getting more open 3 looks.
Lin also can't defend a chair, makes it so easy for opposing teams to penetrate and dish to shooters or get to the line.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-9, #6 on 11/20)
Post by: mr. dee on November 20, 2016, 10:16:33 PM
I guess Turner is still helping us in some ways. I hope Sully invite Lopez to Burger King when the Raptors faced the Nets. :D
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-9, #6 on 11/20)
Post by: GratefulCs on November 20, 2016, 10:20:00 PM
I guess Turner is still helping us in some ways. I hope Sully invite Lopez to Burger King when the Raptors faced the Nets. :D
i feel like sully is a rodeo burger kinda guy
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-9, #6 on 11/20)
Post by: trickybilly on November 20, 2016, 11:25:02 PM
I guess Turner is still helping us in some ways. I hope Sully invite Lopez to Burger King when the Raptors faced the Nets. :D

First really good game from ET.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-9, #6 on 11/20)
Post by: Denis998 on November 21, 2016, 12:12:49 AM
Two important wins from the kings and nuggets today. Gives the nets sole possession of the 6th seed, with half a game away from the 4th seed, which would match that of their net rating (4th from last). Realistically I expect to see NOLA, Dallas, and Washington get their acts together and win some games in the near future. 
Also a win-win games tomorrow between miami and philly, and washington and phoenix
Best case would be a ton of teams being separated by a half game for the #2 seed.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-8, #9 on 11/18)
Post by: celticsclay on November 21, 2016, 12:33:18 AM
They are undefeated in games where Jeremy Lin and Brook Lopez both play and Lopez gets at least 25 minutes. 

Not looking forward to Lin returning from injury.
2-0

but yea
Ravaged by injury yet again!

Lol. Do you think they will do a 30 for 30 on the Jarrett Jack injury?
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-8, #9 on 11/18)
Post by: Ilikesports17 on November 21, 2016, 01:16:24 AM
They are undefeated in games where Jeremy Lin and Brook Lopez both play and Lopez gets at least 25 minutes. 

Not looking forward to Lin returning from injury.
2-0

but yea
Ravaged by injury yet again!

Lol. Do you think they will do a 30 for 30 on the Jarrett Jack injury?
What if I told you, they were secretly a playoff team despite never once crawling out of the bottom 6.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-5, #13 on 11/12)
Post by: GreenShooter on November 21, 2016, 07:09:56 AM
I can't believe some people are panicking that the Nets won a few games (4!). Even with their torrid pace they are exactly"2" games ahead of the 3rd worse record in the league. Their schedule for the next 6 games (@Lakers; @Clippers, @OKC; vs Portland, vs. C's; @Indiana) is not all that promising for their continued dominance over the league, as only 1 team has a worse record by 1/2 game (Indiana). I see a back to reality moment for the Nets over the next two weeks.
As predicted (correctly) the Nets are back to (reality) where they belong. No need to panic and no need to stick up for the Nets and how much better they are than last year. They may be but not to the point where they'll finish out of the top 5.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-9, #6 on 11/20)
Post by: chambers on November 21, 2016, 07:53:39 AM
Nuggets beat the Jazz and Kings beat the Raptors. Two great wins for us tonight.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-8, #9 on 11/18)
Post by: saltlover on November 21, 2016, 08:03:49 AM
They are undefeated in games where Jeremy Lin and Brook Lopez both play and Lopez gets at least 25 minutes. 

Not looking forward to Lin returning from injury.
2-0

but yea
Ravaged by injury yet again!

Lol. Do you think they will do a 30 for 30 on the Jarrett Jack injury?
What if I told you, they were secretly a playoff team despite never once crawling out of the bottom 6.

TP.  I kept trying to come up with a witty tagline, but couldn't.  That was solid.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-8, #9 on 11/18)
Post by: moiso on November 21, 2016, 08:04:11 AM
They are undefeated in games where Jeremy Lin and Brook Lopez both play and Lopez gets at least 25 minutes. 

Not looking forward to Lin returning from injury.
2-0

but yea
Ravaged by injury yet again!

Lol. Do you think they will do a 30 for 30 on the Jarrett Jack injury?
That's a great idea.  People need to realize how much of a difference maker Jack is.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-9, #6 on 11/20)
Post by: The One on November 21, 2016, 08:13:37 AM
They currently have the fourth worst point differential at -6.8 ppg.

Orlando (-7.3), Dallas (-7.4), and Philadelphia (-10.4) are currently worse.



Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-8, #9 on 11/18)
Post by: celticsclay on November 21, 2016, 01:53:28 PM
They are undefeated in games where Jeremy Lin and Brook Lopez both play and Lopez gets at least 25 minutes. 

Not looking forward to Lin returning from injury.
2-0

but yea
Ravaged by injury yet again!

Lol. Do you think they will do a 30 for 30 on the Jarrett Jack injury?
That's a great idea.  People need to realize how much of a difference maker Jack is.

I am assuming you are joking, but there are some people that really did believe that. He couldn't make a team this year (was cut by the hawks and beat out by Will Bynum) and hasn't been signed anywhere else. He also was shooting 39% from the field and 30% from 3 and "jacking" 11 shots a game last year. I think he actually makes teams worse when he plays for them. I live in the Bay Area and I remember a few of the radio guys and commentators talking about that. He really killed their ball movement when he was here and it immediately moved a lot better when he was gone. This was also 3 years ago when he was a lot better player.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-8, #9 on 11/18)
Post by: moiso on November 21, 2016, 01:58:10 PM
They are undefeated in games where Jeremy Lin and Brook Lopez both play and Lopez gets at least 25 minutes. 

Not looking forward to Lin returning from injury.
2-0

but yea
Ravaged by injury yet again!

Lol. Do you think they will do a 30 for 30 on the Jarrett Jack injury?
That's a great idea.  People need to realize how much of a difference maker Jack is.

I am assuming you are joking, but there are some people that really did believe that. He couldn't make a team this year (was cut by the hawks and beat out by Will Bynum) and hasn't been signed anywhere else. He also was shooting 39% from the field and 30% from 3 and "jacking" 11 shots a game last year. I think he actually makes teams worse when he plays for them. I live in the Bay Area and I remember a few of the radio guys and commentators talking about that. He really killed their ball movement when he was here and it immediately moved a lot better when he was gone. This was also 3 years ago when he was a lot better player.
I was joking and I agree with you.  A couple people here made it seem like the Nets may have won a championship last year if not for Jack's injury. 
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-9, #6 on 11/20)
Post by: mef730 on November 21, 2016, 02:29:56 PM
Almost one-fifth of the way through the season. Well, that went fast. 13 games isn't quite the first 20 (our artificial cut-off for determining how good a team is, I guess), but close enough. I'm still at 22-24 wins for the Nets. That opinion and $4 will get you a cup of coffee at Starbucks. Nevertheless, this is the internet and I have a keyboard, so here goes...

I had really high (low?) hopes for the Nets. Alas, they do seem to be better than expected. Yes, they have been scoring 3-pointers at a very high rate and teams will eventually start to guard them, but perhaps that's just because, well, they're better than expected. And I know that Jeremy Lin isn't perfect, but he does seem to rise to the occasion.

According to ESPN:

Quote
An update on Lin's status was supposed to be released late last week, but it appears he still remains without a timetable for a return and could be multiple games away from seeing the court. Isaiah Whitehead is fully over his concussion and will re-enter the starting lineup in Lin's place, while Randy Foye is expected to come off the bench behind Whitehead. Lin should be considered day-to-day moving forward until additional information is provided.

Sounds like Lin could be a few more games. Next four games are Boston, @Indy, Sac and LAC. Looks like about 1-3.

Four games after that is an easy stretch. Milwaukee, @Milwaukee, Washington, Denver. 2-2? I'm assuming Lin will be back by December 1, the Milwaukee game.

Wow, the rest of December is tough. Only three home games out of the remaining 11 in the month, with games against LAL (in theory, winnable), Golden State and Charlotte. I like those odds. 3-8 during that time?

With those numbers, they finish 2016 at 10-22 (which is actually better than their current 4-9 on a percentage basis).

The only downside is that there look like there will be more crappy teams than expected. Philly and Phoenix are just bad. If I were them, I'd give Simmons doesn't play this year. New Orleans, Washington, Sacramento and possibly Dallas are threats. I'd like to think that at least Washington and Dallas will pull through for us.

If I'm right, and I rarely am, we're looking at the 4th or 5th worst team.

Mike
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-9, #6 on 11/20)
Post by: The One on November 22, 2016, 10:48:45 AM
FiveThirtyEight's current prediction...tied with Philly for worst record in the league at 25 - 57

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D


http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2017-nba-predictions/

Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-8, #9 on 11/18)
Post by: tankcity! on November 22, 2016, 10:51:55 AM
They are undefeated in games where Jeremy Lin and Brook Lopez both play and Lopez gets at least 25 minutes. 

Not looking forward to Lin returning from injury.
2-0

but yea
Ravaged by injury yet again!

Lol. Do you think they will do a 30 for 30 on the Jarrett Jack injury?
What if I told you, they were secretly a playoff team despite never once crawling out of the bottom 6.

Hahah, I'm dying. Lbbrd really does remind me of Skip Bayless.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-8, #9 on 11/18)
Post by: Spilling Green Dye on November 22, 2016, 11:10:08 AM
They are undefeated in games where Jeremy Lin and Brook Lopez both play and Lopez gets at least 25 minutes. 

Not looking forward to Lin returning from injury.
2-0

but yea
Ravaged by injury yet again!

Lol. Do you think they will do a 30 for 30 on the Jarrett Jack injury?
What if I told you, they were secretly a playoff team despite never once crawling out of the bottom 6.

Hahah, I'm dying. Lbbrd really does remind me of Skip Bayless.

In fairness, it wasn't that Jack was that great, it was that his backup was that awful.  The Nets had horrible depth issues last year which they've somewhat addressed this year.  In watching the games, it also felt like Jack & Lopez were the only 2 people on their team with any level of skill and trying hard to win. 
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-8, #9 on 11/18)
Post by: saltlover on November 22, 2016, 11:19:20 AM
They are undefeated in games where Jeremy Lin and Brook Lopez both play and Lopez gets at least 25 minutes. 

Not looking forward to Lin returning from injury.
2-0

but yea
Ravaged by injury yet again!

Lol. Do you think they will do a 30 for 30 on the Jarrett Jack injury?
What if I told you, they were secretly a playoff team despite never once crawling out of the bottom 6.

Hahah, I'm dying. Lbbrd really does remind me of Skip Bayless.

In fairness, it wasn't that Jack was that great, it was that his backup was that awful.  The Nets had horrible depth issues last year which they've somewhat addressed this year.  In watching the games, it also felt like Jack & Lopez were the only 2 people on their team with any level of skill and trying hard to win.

I think you are completely overvaluing what a healthy Jack brought to that team.  Jack shot under 40% from the floor, and his eFG wasn't much better.  He had a good number of assists, but also a lot of turnovers.  The drop off between Jack and Shane Larkin wasn't particularly steep at all, and that's not meant as a compliment to Shane Larkin.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-9, #6 on 11/20)
Post by: KGs Knee on November 22, 2016, 11:21:15 AM
Brooklyn might be better than last year, but are still a very bad team with a razors thin margin for error.

I expect another top 5 pick from the Nets this year.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-9, #6 on 11/20)
Post by: SHAQATTACK on November 22, 2016, 12:34:27 PM
I'm starting to really hate the Nets again.  Like before KG and Pierce were traded there.

I'd love to see AL and team. .....run Dope Pez out of the gym
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-8, #9 on 11/18)
Post by: celticsclay on November 22, 2016, 01:01:13 PM
They are undefeated in games where Jeremy Lin and Brook Lopez both play and Lopez gets at least 25 minutes. 

Not looking forward to Lin returning from injury.
2-0

but yea
Ravaged by injury yet again!

Lol. Do you think they will do a 30 for 30 on the Jarrett Jack injury?
What if I told you, they were secretly a playoff team despite never once crawling out of the bottom 6.

Hahah, I'm dying. Lbbrd really does remind me of Skip Bayless.

In fairness, it wasn't that Jack was that great, it was that his backup was that awful.  The Nets had horrible depth issues last year which they've somewhat addressed this year.  In watching the games, it also felt like Jack & Lopez were the only 2 people on their team with any level of skill and trying hard to win.

I really don't know what to say if we are going to act like there is a huge difference between Larkin and Jack. Jack was not good at defense, shot a lot of shots at a low percentage, and really pounded the ball on offense. His last couple of teams have all gotten better when he was not playing major minutes. I think they may have actually been better off with Larkin. Both of them are out of the league Larkin is playing in Spain.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-9, #6 on 11/20)
Post by: mef730 on November 22, 2016, 01:05:03 PM
FiveThirtyEight's current prediction...tied with Philly for worst record in the league at 25 - 57

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D


http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2017-nba-predictions/

President Clinton will be thrilled! ;D

Mike
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-9, #6 on 11/20)
Post by: The One on November 22, 2016, 01:11:10 PM
FiveThirtyEight's current prediction...tied with Philly for worst record in the league at 25 - 57

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D


http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2017-nba-predictions/

President Clinton will be thrilled! ;D

Mike

Good one!

LOL!
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-9, #6 on 11/20)
Post by: GC003332 on November 23, 2016, 01:07:12 AM
Good night for the Nets pick , Pelicans,Nuggets and Lakers all winning , never to early to get some separation in case of injuries later on in the season.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-9, #6 on 11/20)
Post by: mr. dee on November 23, 2016, 04:43:05 AM
Mavs still got the worse record in the league. They may already raise the white flag. Either way, both approach could be good for us.

There is a 6-way tie between the Nets, Wolves, Sixers, Wizards and Heat. We need to beat them tomorrow if we want them to get ahead in the tanking standings.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-9, #6 on 11/20)
Post by: chambers on November 23, 2016, 07:13:20 AM
Mavs still got the worse record in the league. They may already raise the white flag. Either way, both approach could be good for us.

There is a 6-way tie between the Nets, Wolves, Sixers, Wizards and Heat. We need to beat them tomorrow if we want them to get ahead in the tanking standings.

I don't think the Mavs will wave the white flag, considering the money they've spent on Mathews, Barnes, Dirk and Bogut.

They will fight and try to make the playoffs. It's just amazing how poorly a team with that much talent that is ALSO coached by Rick Carlisle can do so badly.

edit: I just looked and they've had Deron and Dirk both out with both set to return soon. Barea has gone down for at least 6 weeks but they should still be strong enough to stay out of the bottom 5 or 6 teams.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-9, #6 on 11/20)
Post by: fairweatherfan on November 24, 2016, 01:35:52 AM
Well, it's official - Brooklyn won't win 73. Warriors can breathe easy for another year.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-9, #6 on 11/20)
Post by: trickybilly on November 24, 2016, 02:32:13 AM
Mavs still got the worse record in the league. They may already raise the white flag. Either way, both approach could be good for us.

There is a 6-way tie between the Nets, Wolves, Sixers, Wizards and Heat. We need to beat them tomorrow if we want them to get ahead in the tanking standings.

Bogut, Mesjri, and Powell all might become available soon..
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-9, #6 on 11/20)
Post by: LarBrd33 on November 24, 2016, 02:37:35 AM
Well, it's official - Brooklyn won't win 73. Warriors can breathe easy for another year.
tp.  I'm getting excited.  I keep reading some really incredible things about this draft class and it's amazing to know that we legitimately have a chance at getting one of them without tanking.  I don't want to jinx anything, but it's starting to look like we have a real shot at getting someone special - if we don't trade the pick in a package for a star first.  Ainge is my hero.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-9, #6 on 11/20)
Post by: trickybilly on November 24, 2016, 06:37:56 AM
Kid looks crazy good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Hjkkrwoias
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-10, #3 on 11/23)
Post by: SCeltic34 on November 24, 2016, 07:57:19 PM
As many of us had predicted before the season started, Brooklyn is currently among the worst defensive teams in the league.

Brooklyn stats through 14 games:

Opposing team PPG: 113.1 (29th, 2nd worst in the league)
Defensive rating: 107.9 (26th)
Opposing team FG%: .467 (28th)
Opposing 3-point FG%: .367 (25th)
Opposing eFG%: 52.4% (27th)

There's every reason to believe that their defensive struggles will continue.  Hard to win games when you're this bad on D.  Furthermore, they're 3rd worst in point differential (which is very strongly correlated with a team's record) at -7.7.

Looking promising for our pick.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-10, #3 on 11/23)
Post by: SCeltic34 on November 24, 2016, 08:10:15 PM
In terms of their player status:

Lin - timetable still uncertain
LeVert - started practicing with the team
RHJ - left last night's game with a sore right ankle, x-rays negative
Whitehead - left game with a sore right wrist, x-rays negative
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-10, #3 on 11/23)
Post by: Vox_Populi on November 25, 2016, 11:38:44 AM
No Hollis-Jefferson tonight for Brooklyn. Indiana kind of suck, but Brooklyn will be without two of their best four players. Not really worried about tonight.

It's way to early to assume anything and it probably won't happen, but if Philly end up finishing above them I wouldn't be too shocked anymore.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-10, #3 on 11/23)
Post by: SHAQATTACK on November 25, 2016, 12:01:50 PM
Indy sucks

We should get George and Boogie to go with Horford and Smart.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-10, #3 on 11/23)
Post by: footey on November 25, 2016, 12:08:17 PM
No Hollis-Jefferson tonight for Brooklyn. Indiana kind of suck, but Brooklyn will be without two of their best four players. Not really worried about tonight.

It's way to early to assume anything and it probably won't happen, but if Philly end up finishing above them I wouldn't be too shocked anymore.

Dallas going in tank mode.  Mark Cuban no dummy. 
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-10, #3 on 11/23)
Post by: Vox_Populi on November 25, 2016, 07:17:43 PM
This game got more interesting. No George. Indiana should still win...but who knows with them.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-10, #3 on 11/23)
Post by: mr. dee on November 25, 2016, 07:23:01 PM
Wizards leading early. A win from MIN, WAS and PHI should put Nets ahead on the tank standings, especially if the lose against IND tonight.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-10, #3 on 11/23)
Post by: Emmette Bryant on November 25, 2016, 08:26:29 PM
I hurt my back this morning and I'm laid up at home.  I'm watching the Nets game as I write.

A bad back and the Nets. A perfect combination of sensory hell.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-10, #3 on 11/23)
Post by: mef730 on November 25, 2016, 09:18:27 PM
I hurt my back this morning and I'm laid up at home.  I'm watching the Nets game as I write.

A bad back and the Nets. A perfect combination of sensory hell.

Sorry about your back. Take solace in the fact that, if we put you in the game, bad back and all, you'd still be the third-best player on the Nets.

Mike
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-10, #3 on 11/23)
Post by: Bostoncelticsforlife7 on November 25, 2016, 09:46:40 PM
Brooklyn getting destroyed by Indi, hopefully Miami can hang on to their lead against the Grizzlies
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-10, #3 on 11/23)
Post by: LarBrd33 on November 25, 2016, 09:49:13 PM
Brooklyn getting destroyed by Indi, hopefully Miami can hang on to their lead against the Grizzlies
Every time Brooklyn gets destroyed, part of me that was previously dead inside gets reanimated. 
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-10, #3 on 11/23)
Post by: Emmette Bryant on November 25, 2016, 11:26:57 PM
I hurt my back this morning and I'm laid up at home.  I'm watching the Nets game as I write.

A bad back and the Nets. A perfect combination of sensory hell.

Sorry about your back. Take solace in the fact that, if we put you in the game, bad back and all, you'd still be the third-best player on the Nets.

Mike

Thanks dude I needed the laugh.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-10, #3 on 11/23)
Post by: trickybilly on November 26, 2016, 12:03:09 AM
Brooklyn getting destroyed by Indi, hopefully Miami can hang on to their lead against the Grizzlies
Every time Brooklyn gets destroyed, part of me that was previously dead inside gets reanimated.

It's tempting to think the sky is falling when we get beaten by a strong, seasoned Spurs team with four maybe five future HOFers, by 6 points, but people really need to realize our time is not now. Our time is in three or four years when our team will be ridiculously strong. These games serve as a nice reminder
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-10, #3 on 11/23)
Post by: max215 on November 26, 2016, 12:23:47 AM
Hah, forgot Indie was without PG. That's a pretty bad team to get whooped by. The Nets suck. Meanwhile, early returns from the top prospects have been promising. Jackson, Fultz, Markkanen, Ball, Isaac all looking outstanding. We haven't even seen Giles, Tatum, Bolden yet. Exciting times.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-10, #3 on 11/23)
Post by: tazzmaniac on November 26, 2016, 02:37:20 AM
Brooklyn getting destroyed by Indi, hopefully Miami can hang on to their lead against the Grizzlies
Every time Brooklyn gets destroyed, part of me that was previously dead inside gets reanimated.

It's tempting to think the sky is falling when we get beaten by a strong, seasoned Spurs team with four maybe five future HOFers, by 6 points, but people really need to realize our time is not now. Our time is in three or four years when our team will be ridiculously strong. These games serve as a nice reminder
How will we be ridiculously strong in 3 or 4 years?  I'm not seeing it.  Smart, Thomas and Bradley are due to be paid in two years so we'll most likely lose one of them.  Horford will be 33/34. 
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-10, #3 on 11/23)
Post by: mr. dee on November 26, 2016, 02:44:39 AM
Brooklyn getting destroyed by Indi, hopefully Miami can hang on to their lead against the Grizzlies
Every time Brooklyn gets destroyed, part of me that was previously dead inside gets reanimated.

It's tempting to think the sky is falling when we get beaten by a strong, seasoned Spurs team with four maybe five future HOFers, by 6 points, but people really need to realize our time is not now. Our time is in three or four years when our team will be ridiculously strong. These games serve as a nice reminder
How will we be ridiculously strong in 3 or 4 years?  I'm not seeing it.  Smart, Thomas and Bradley are due to be paid in two years so we'll most likely lose one of them.  Horford will be 33/34.

Im betting that Wyc will be paying the luxury tax just to retain that core if they manage to finish season with 50+ wins in the next two years.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-10, #3 on 11/23)
Post by: Ilikesports17 on November 26, 2016, 02:45:01 AM
Brooklyn getting destroyed by Indi, hopefully Miami can hang on to their lead against the Grizzlies
Every time Brooklyn gets destroyed, part of me that was previously dead inside gets reanimated.

It's tempting to think the sky is falling when we get beaten by a strong, seasoned Spurs team with four maybe five future HOFers, by 6 points, but people really need to realize our time is not now. Our time is in three or four years when our team will be ridiculously strong. These games serve as a nice reminder
How will we be ridiculously strong in 3 or 4 years?  I'm not seeing it.  Smart, Thomas and Bradley are due to be paid in two years so we'll most likely lose one of them.  Horford will be 33/34.
yeah, we are kinda building 2 potential championship cores at once.

The first one has a 2 year timeline to acquire the next star. Say you get a Cousins or a Griffin or some mystery star prior to Smart/AB/Thomas expiring. Then you use Bird rights to keep everyone you need and chase a title with:
Star
Horford
probably 2 of Bradley Smart Thomas
Crowder
whoever of Brown/Rozier/'17/'18 we get to keep while getting star

the other one is if that mystical star never comes to us and we get to '18 FA. In this situation Id advocate keeping 1 of Smart/Bradley/Thomas (I like Smart largely because Thomas's size scares me, Bradley's reliance on his athleticism defensively and more importantly on his jumper scares my and most importantly because I think Marcus's lack of scoring/shooting will make him cheap) then you still keep an oldish Horford and an end of his prime Crowder and build around your 16-18 Nets picks with those guys making up a terrific supporting cast.
Its possible to have
Smart
Crowder
Horford
Rozier
hopefully one of those Euros or Demetrius works out
Brown
'17
'18
perhaps we could still fit a max on top?

In a perfect world, you get your star in FA this year (Griffin?) keep 17 and 18 and Brown and one winfow of contention moves seemlessly into the other.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-10, #3 on 11/23)
Post by: Ilikesports17 on November 26, 2016, 02:46:54 AM
Brooklyn getting destroyed by Indi, hopefully Miami can hang on to their lead against the Grizzlies
Every time Brooklyn gets destroyed, part of me that was previously dead inside gets reanimated.

It's tempting to think the sky is falling when we get beaten by a strong, seasoned Spurs team with four maybe five future HOFers, by 6 points, but people really need to realize our time is not now. Our time is in three or four years when our team will be ridiculously strong. These games serve as a nice reminder
How will we be ridiculously strong in 3 or 4 years?  I'm not seeing it.  Smart, Thomas and Bradley are due to be paid in two years so we'll most likely lose one of them.  Horford will be 33/34.

Im betting that Wyc will be paying the luxury tax just to retain that core if they manage to finish season with 50+ wins in the next two years.
He could and it wouldnt be the dumbest idea. As long Brooklyn '17 or '18 yields a potential superstar

or obviously if Brown looks like he could be one.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-10, #3 on 11/23)
Post by: mr. dee on November 26, 2016, 02:55:25 AM
Brooklyn getting destroyed by Indi, hopefully Miami can hang on to their lead against the Grizzlies
Every time Brooklyn gets destroyed, part of me that was previously dead inside gets reanimated.

It's tempting to think the sky is falling when we get beaten by a strong, seasoned Spurs team with four maybe five future HOFers, by 6 points, but people really need to realize our time is not now. Our time is in three or four years when our team will be ridiculously strong. These games serve as a nice reminder
How will we be ridiculously strong in 3 or 4 years?  I'm not seeing it.  Smart, Thomas and Bradley are due to be paid in two years so we'll most likely lose one of them.  Horford will be 33/34.

Im betting that Wyc will be paying the luxury tax just to retain that core if they manage to finish season with 50+ wins in the next two years.
He could and it wouldnt be the dumbest idea. As long Brooklyn '17 or '18 yields a potential superstar

or obviously if Brown looks like he could be one.

I would also take that one, if not all of those guys are willing to take a hometown discount, just to  keep on contending for a championship. But that depends on how well they will do this season and the following year, especially during the playoffs.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-10, #3 on 11/23)
Post by: tazzmaniac on November 26, 2016, 03:56:13 AM
Brooklyn getting destroyed by Indi, hopefully Miami can hang on to their lead against the Grizzlies
Every time Brooklyn gets destroyed, part of me that was previously dead inside gets reanimated.

It's tempting to think the sky is falling when we get beaten by a strong, seasoned Spurs team with four maybe five future HOFers, by 6 points, but people really need to realize our time is not now. Our time is in three or four years when our team will be ridiculously strong. These games serve as a nice reminder
How will we be ridiculously strong in 3 or 4 years?  I'm not seeing it.  Smart, Thomas and Bradley are due to be paid in two years so we'll most likely lose one of them.  Horford will be 33/34.
yeah, we are kinda building 2 potential championship cores at once.

The first one has a 2 year timeline to acquire the next star. Say you get a Cousins or a Griffin or some mystery star prior to Smart/AB/Thomas expiring. Then you use Bird rights to keep everyone you need and chase a title with:
Star
Horford
probably 2 of Bradley Smart Thomas
Crowder
whoever of Brown/Rozier/'17/'18 we get to keep while getting star

the other one is if that mystical star never comes to us and we get to '18 FA. In this situation Id advocate keeping 1 of Smart/Bradley/Thomas (I like Smart largely because Thomas's size scares me, Bradley's reliance on his athleticism defensively and more importantly on his jumper scares my and most importantly because I think Marcus's lack of scoring/shooting will make him cheap) then you still keep an oldish Horford and an end of his prime Crowder and build around your 16-18 Nets picks with those guys making up a terrific supporting cast.
Its possible to have
Smart
Crowder
Horford
Rozier
hopefully one of those Euros or Demetrius works out
Brown
'17
'18
perhaps we could still fit a max on top?

In a perfect world, you get your star in FA this year (Griffin?) keep 17 and 18 and Brown and one winfow of contention moves seemlessly into the other.
We aren't getting Griffin.  Hayward might be possible but he won't make us a contender.  If the Kings don't stop screwing around, we won't have a chance at Cousins either. 
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-10, #3 on 11/23)
Post by: LarBrd33 on November 26, 2016, 04:11:20 AM
Brooklyn getting destroyed by Indi, hopefully Miami can hang on to their lead against the Grizzlies
Every time Brooklyn gets destroyed, part of me that was previously dead inside gets reanimated.

It's tempting to think the sky is falling when we get beaten by a strong, seasoned Spurs team with four maybe five future HOFers, by 6 points, but people really need to realize our time is not now. Our time is in three or four years when our team will be ridiculously strong. These games serve as a nice reminder
How will we be ridiculously strong in 3 or 4 years?  I'm not seeing it.  Smart, Thomas and Bradley are due to be paid in two years so we'll most likely lose one of them.  Horford will be 33/34.
yeah, we are kinda building 2 potential championship cores at once.

The first one has a 2 year timeline to acquire the next star. Say you get a Cousins or a Griffin or some mystery star prior to Smart/AB/Thomas expiring. Then you use Bird rights to keep everyone you need and chase a title with:
Star
Horford
probably 2 of Bradley Smart Thomas
Crowder
whoever of Brown/Rozier/'17/'18 we get to keep while getting star

the other one is if that mystical star never comes to us and we get to '18 FA. In this situation Id advocate keeping 1 of Smart/Bradley/Thomas (I like Smart largely because Thomas's size scares me, Bradley's reliance on his athleticism defensively and more importantly on his jumper scares my and most importantly because I think Marcus's lack of scoring/shooting will make him cheap) then you still keep an oldish Horford and an end of his prime Crowder and build around your 16-18 Nets picks with those guys making up a terrific supporting cast.
Its possible to have
Smart
Crowder
Horford
Rozier
hopefully one of those Euros or Demetrius works out
Brown
'17
'18
perhaps we could still fit a max on top?

In a perfect world, you get your star in FA this year (Griffin?) keep 17 and 18 and Brown and one winfow of contention moves seemlessly into the other.
i get what you're saying, but I still don't really know who this team could add other than LeBron James to really make it competitive with a team like the Warriors over the next 5-10 years.   The good news is, we should be a 55 win team right now and we could be a sneaky 60+ win team with a major free agent addition.   That will hold us over, keep team very interesting and watchable with hopefully some decent playoff runs over the next several years... but with Golden State checkmating the entire league for the near-to-mid future, our eyes should be on trying to land the elusive superstar prospects to help us contend against teams like the Wolves and Philly in the next generation (2020s).  I'm in favor of keeping the picks for that reason.  While we'll be very good, I doubt we contend for a title in the short-term.  Hopefully Jaylen and Smart continue to develop... our window might be 7-9 years from now when those guys are in their late 20s and the 2017 and 18 draft picks are reaching their prime.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-10, #3 on 11/23)
Post by: The One on November 26, 2016, 07:06:31 AM
The Nets are so bad defensively.

The second worst defensive rating in the last 9 games.

And when Lin comes back that's not getting better.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-11, #3 on 11/25)
Post by: Adelaide Celt on November 27, 2016, 05:36:44 PM
Not expecting much from the Kings today in Brooklyn. We all know how crap they're capable of being. Might be one we just have to concede. Still confident of bottom 3 for Nets.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-11, #3 on 11/25)
Post by: Vox_Populi on November 27, 2016, 05:40:31 PM
No Hollis-Jefferson again. So there's that, at least. I never know what to expect from the Kings though.

I don't want to jinx things, but the Kings really have no business losing to Brooklyn.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-11, #3 on 11/25)
Post by: Monkhouse on November 27, 2016, 06:04:09 PM
Either way Kings losing is a win win to us. If Kings win, Brooklyn loses. If Kings lose to the Nets, Cousins gets disgruntled, and even more considering how bad the Nets are currently right now.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-11, #3 on 11/25)
Post by: LarBrd33 on November 27, 2016, 06:45:36 PM
Either way Kings losing is a win win to us. If Kings win, Brooklyn loses. If Kings lose to the Nets, Cousins gets disgruntled, and even more considering how bad the Nets are currently right now.
I see it as a lose/lose, but I agree with your premise.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-11, #3 on 11/25)
Post by: LarBrd33 on November 27, 2016, 06:46:47 PM
No Hollis-Jefferson again. So there's that, at least. I never know what to expect from the Kings though.

I don't want to jinx things, but the Kings really have no business losing to Brooklyn.
Man... Lin and Hollis-Jefferson both out?  At thanksgiving this year, I gave thanks to the basketball gods for riddling the Nets with injuries again. 

#Blessed
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-11, #3 on 11/25)
Post by: Ogaju on November 27, 2016, 07:37:56 PM
lol Barnes of the Kings just threw a lob pass for Alley Hoop and it went in the basket for three points.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-11, #3 on 11/25)
Post by: Ogaju on November 27, 2016, 07:42:04 PM
Cousins just picked up a technical. If we trade for Cousins we should ask for a concession based on the number of Ts he brings with him. ;D
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-11, #3 on 11/25)
Post by: KG Living Legend on November 27, 2016, 08:05:04 PM
 97-81 Nets Suck. 9 minutes to go in the game.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-11, #3 on 11/25)
Post by: Neurotic Guy on November 27, 2016, 08:07:10 PM

 97-81 Nets lead. 9 minutes to go in the game.

Nets lead?  It's now 99-91 Sac -- Kings need to hang on.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-11, #3 on 11/25)
Post by: KG Living Legend on November 27, 2016, 08:13:12 PM
 My B. 105 to 93. Boogie Cousins with the lead.


 33 pts 11 boards 4 Steals 2 dimes for Boogie on 22 shot's
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-11, #3 on 11/25)
Post by: hwangjini_1 on November 27, 2016, 08:14:04 PM
update: nets are losing by 14 (107-93) with 5:31 in the 4th.

another delicious loss seems to be on the horizon.  ;D

i cant remember another trade in the history of the celtics in my lifetime has has delivered as much entertainment as the one ainge made with the nets. and we get to do this all over again NEXT year too!!  ;D
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-11, #3 on 11/25)
Post by: KG Living Legend on November 27, 2016, 08:16:21 PM

 Brookly Draft picks!!! Clap, Clap, Clap, Clap, Clap!!!
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-11, #3 on 11/25)
Post by: hwangjini_1 on November 27, 2016, 08:19:05 PM
and the nets' wheels have officially come off. now 115 to 96 folks.  ;D
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-11, #3 on 11/25)
Post by: alldaboston on November 27, 2016, 08:19:27 PM
update: nets are losing by 14 (107-93) with 5:31 in the 4th.

another delicious loss seems to be on the horizon.  ;D

i cant remember another trade in the history of the celtics in my lifetime has has delivered as much entertainment as the one ainge made with the nets. and we get to do this all over again NEXT year too!!  ;D

you see this as entertainment? lol, i have to disagree, man. i love that we have the pics, but this stuff is stressful, especially towards the end of the season, when you have to worry about other teams winning or losing and whether you can get the best lottery odds or not.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-11, #3 on 11/25)
Post by: SCeltic34 on November 27, 2016, 08:20:04 PM
The game is blacked out for me for some reason on League Pass.  Looks like DMC is dominating Lopez and the Nets defense continues to be their Achilles heel, allowing 54% shooting.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-11, #3 on 11/25)
Post by: hwangjini_1 on November 27, 2016, 08:21:28 PM
update: nets are losing by 14 (107-93) with 5:31 in the 4th.

another delicious loss seems to be on the horizon.  ;D

i cant remember another trade in the history of the celtics in my lifetime has has delivered as much entertainment as the one ainge made with the nets. and we get to do this all over again NEXT year too!!  ;D

you see this as entertainment? lol, i have to disagree, man. i love that we have the pics, but this stuff is stressful, especially towards the end of the season, when you have to worry about other teams winning or losing and whether you can get the best lottery odds or not.
ha, ha. a tp to placate your stress. but for me, this is fun. the nets clearly suck big time. watching them flounder is fun. even if they make a semblance of a run this year or next the WORST case scenario is a top 10 pick.

life is short. this is fun. and the nets suck.  ;D
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-11, #3 on 11/25)
Post by: Boris Badenov on November 27, 2016, 08:23:35 PM
update: nets are losing by 14 (107-93) with 5:31 in the 4th.

another delicious loss seems to be on the horizon.  ;D

i cant remember another trade in the history of the celtics in my lifetime has has delivered as much entertainment as the one ainge made with the nets. and we get to do this all over again NEXT year too!!  ;D

you see this as entertainment? lol, i have to disagree, man. i love that we have the pics, but this stuff is stressful, especially towards the end of the season, when you have to worry about other teams winning or losing and whether you can get the best lottery odds or not.

You could always become a Nets fan. The end of the season should be pretty relaxing for them.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-11, #3 on 11/25)
Post by: alldaboston on November 27, 2016, 08:24:25 PM
update: nets are losing by 14 (107-93) with 5:31 in the 4th.

another delicious loss seems to be on the horizon.  ;D

i cant remember another trade in the history of the celtics in my lifetime has has delivered as much entertainment as the one ainge made with the nets. and we get to do this all over again NEXT year too!!  ;D

you see this as entertainment? lol, i have to disagree, man. i love that we have the pics, but this stuff is stressful, especially towards the end of the season, when you have to worry about other teams winning or losing and whether you can get the best lottery odds or not.
ha, ha. a tp to placate your stress. but for me, this is fun. the nets clearly suck big time. watching them flounder is fun. even if they make a semblance of a run this year or next the WORST case scenario is a top 10 pick.

life is short. this is fun. and the nets suck.  ;D

lol i guess. it certainly is nice to get a top 10 pick out of them for 3 seasons in a row. TP coming your way too, btw, after an hour. seems i gave you one in another thread, so i have to wait till the restriction ends.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-11, #3 on 11/25)
Post by: KG Living Legend on November 27, 2016, 08:25:40 PM

 120 to 105, with 50 seconds to play!
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-11, #3 on 11/25)
Post by: hwangjini_1 on November 27, 2016, 08:31:43 PM
and its a wrap. the nets are not officially 4-12. if they keep this up they will have a final win count of around 27. that looks like a low draft choice for the celtics to me.  ;D
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-11, #3 on 11/25)
Post by: moiso on November 27, 2016, 08:33:56 PM
update: nets are losing by 14 (107-93) with 5:31 in the 4th.

another delicious loss seems to be on the horizon.  ;D

i cant remember another trade in the history of the celtics in my lifetime has has delivered as much entertainment as the one ainge made with the nets. and we get to do this all over again NEXT year too!!  ;D

you see this as entertainment? lol, i have to disagree, man. i love that we have the pics, but this stuff is stressful, especially towards the end of the season, when you have to worry about other teams winning or losing and whether you can get the best lottery odds or not.
Its a nice side story but I'm nowhere near as emotionally invested this year as I was last year.  I know this draft looks better but last year I was almost more interested in Nets losses than Celtics wins and the big payoff was... Jaylen Brown.   Nothing against Jaylen but I'm not going to be so invested in the Nets being the worst team for 82 games this year.  Maybe I'll care more later in the season.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-11, #3 on 11/25)
Post by: mef730 on November 27, 2016, 08:45:01 PM
and its a wrap. the nets are not officially 4-12. if they keep this up they will have a final win count of around 27. that looks like a low draft choice for the celtics to me.  ;D

I'm not typically one to call out a math error, but the Nets are batting .250 now. If they keep that up, they'll end the season with 20.5 wins, and there's no way I'm letting you cheat me out of 6.5 Nets losses!

:D

Mike
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-11, #3 on 11/25)
Post by: KG Living Legend on November 27, 2016, 08:45:48 PM
update: nets are losing by 14 (107-93) with 5:31 in the 4th.

another delicious loss seems to be on the horizon.  ;D

i cant remember another trade in the history of the celtics in my lifetime has has delivered as much entertainment as the one ainge made with the nets. and we get to do this all over again NEXT year too!!  ;D

you see this as entertainment? lol, i have to disagree, man. i love that we have the pics, but this stuff is stressful, especially towards the end of the season, when you have to worry about other teams winning or losing and whether you can get the best lottery odds or not.
Its a nice side story but I'm nowhere near as emotionally invested this year as I was last year.  I know this draft looks better but last year I was almost more interested in Nets losses than Celtics wins and the big payoff was... Jaylen Brown.   Nothing against Jaylen but I'm not going to be so invested in the Nets being the worst team for 82 games this year.  Maybe I'll care more later in the season.




 Your around be bro because that pick this year should be
waaaaayyyyyy, more valuable than Jaylen Brown.

 I can't wait for the Chad Ford Tiers this year. We might have 5 Tier one talents this year. Maybe more.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-11, #3 on 11/25)
Post by: hwangjini_1 on November 27, 2016, 09:08:15 PM
and its a wrap. the nets are not officially 4-12. if they keep this up they will have a final win count of around 27. that looks like a low draft choice for the celtics to me.  ;D

I'm not typically one to call out a math error, but the Nets are batting .250 now. If they keep that up, they'll end the season with 20.5 wins, and there's no way I'm letting you cheat me out of 6.5 Nets losses!

:D

Mike
well crapavoux!!!! you sir are one hundred percent correct!!! (did i get that math correct?  ;) )

i apolgize for the mistake, and delight in being wrong in the right way.  ;D

a tp to you for your math skills.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-11, #3 on 11/25)
Post by: jdz101 on November 27, 2016, 09:14:00 PM
update: nets are losing by 14 (107-93) with 5:31 in the 4th.

another delicious loss seems to be on the horizon.  ;D

i cant remember another trade in the history of the celtics in my lifetime has has delivered as much entertainment as the one ainge made with the nets. and we get to do this all over again NEXT year too!!  ;D

you see this as entertainment? lol, i have to disagree, man. i love that we have the pics, but this stuff is stressful, especially towards the end of the season, when you have to worry about other teams winning or losing and whether you can get the best lottery odds or not.
Its a nice side story but I'm nowhere near as emotionally invested this year as I was last year.  I know this draft looks better but last year I was almost more interested in Nets losses than Celtics wins and the big payoff was... Jaylen Brown.   Nothing against Jaylen but I'm not going to be so invested in the Nets being the worst team for 82 games this year.  Maybe I'll care more later in the season.




 Your around be bro because that pick this year should be
waaaaayyyyyy, more valuable than Jaylen Brown.

 I can't wait for the Chad Ford Tiers this year. We might have 5 Tier one talents this year. Maybe more.

Nek Minnut Brooklyn get pick 6
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-11, #3 on 11/25)
Post by: Denis998 on November 27, 2016, 09:21:07 PM
Interesting note: Dallas has had one of the hardest schedules thus far facing 12 +.500 teams
http://www.espn.com/nba/standings/_/view/expanded
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-11, #3 on 11/25)
Post by: The One on November 27, 2016, 09:33:20 PM
Pitiful defense...these Nets are BAD.

It's always about the defense.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-11, #3 on 11/25)
Post by: Denis998 on November 27, 2016, 09:40:38 PM
Nets now own the worst net rating in the nba. good sign.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-12, #3 on 11/27)
Post by: Redz on November 28, 2016, 07:47:10 AM
A quality loss for the Nets
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-12, #3 on 11/27)
Post by: green_bballers13 on November 28, 2016, 08:59:31 AM
It appears that the majority of people on this blog think that Brooklyn is a bottom 10 team in the league, and most likely a bottom 5 team.

It is hard for me to envision a scenario where Brooklyn makes the playoffs. I cannot see them improving their roster this year. Does anyone see a path for them to trade Lopez for a better player(s) that pushes them into the playoffs? I don't.

Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-12, #3 on 11/27)
Post by: TheSundanceKid on November 28, 2016, 09:31:02 AM
It appears that the majority of people on this blog think that Brooklyn is a bottom 10 team in the league, and most likely a bottom 5 team.

It is hard for me to envision a scenario where Brooklyn makes the playoffs. I cannot see them improving their roster this year. Does anyone see a path for them to trade Lopez for a better player(s) that pushes them into the playoffs? I don't.

If (when) they trade Lopez I don't think they will necessarily get worse. Ultimately it depends on who they trade him for but I expect it would be a vet filler and a rookie scale guy that a team isn't keen on extending this summer.

As an example it could be us trading Amir and KO for him. I wouldn't do that trade but is a good example from a salary perspective.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-12, #3 on 11/27)
Post by: hwangjini_1 on November 28, 2016, 09:34:18 AM
It appears that the majority of people on this blog think that Brooklyn is a bottom 10 team in the league, and most likely a bottom 5 team.

It is hard for me to envision a scenario where Brooklyn makes the playoffs. I cannot see them improving their roster this year. Does anyone see a path for them to trade Lopez for a better player(s) that pushes them into the playoffs? I don't.
if the trade lopez, it is most likely to be for picks and young players. which means they could suck for another year or two. perfect!  ;D
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-12, #3 on 11/27)
Post by: slamtheking on November 28, 2016, 09:45:50 AM
It appears that the majority of people on this blog think that Brooklyn is a bottom 10 team in the league, and most likely a bottom 5 team.

It is hard for me to envision a scenario where Brooklyn makes the playoffs. I cannot see them improving their roster this year. Does anyone see a path for them to trade Lopez for a better player(s) that pushes them into the playoffs? I don't.
if the trade lopez, it is most likely to be for picks and young players. which means they could suck for another year or two. perfect!  ;D
exactly how I see it.

Nets have to be viewing their picks this coming draft and next as sunk costs that can't be recouped.  They need to acquire other assets in the form of either young prospects and/or first round picks.  Lopez is really the only asset they have that can be used in a trade for those types of assets to get their rebuild underway.   no FA worth much will sign there until that franchise starts to climb out of that hole they're in.

Nets will suck badly this year with or without Lopez but definitely more without him.  they'll probably improve a little next year but not by much -- still be in the lottery and giving us their pick. 
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-12, #3 on 11/27)
Post by: TheSundanceKid on November 29, 2016, 05:01:10 AM
It appears that the majority of people on this blog think that Brooklyn is a bottom 10 team in the league, and most likely a bottom 5 team.

It is hard for me to envision a scenario where Brooklyn makes the playoffs. I cannot see them improving their roster this year. Does anyone see a path for them to trade Lopez for a better player(s) that pushes them into the playoffs? I don't.
if the trade lopez, it is most likely to be for picks and young players. which means they could suck for another year or two. perfect!  ;D
exactly how I see it.

Nets have to be viewing their picks this coming draft and next as sunk costs that can't be recouped.  They need to acquire other assets in the form of either young prospects and/or first round picks.  Lopez is really the only asset they have that can be used in a trade for those types of assets to get their rebuild underway.   no FA worth much will sign there until that franchise starts to climb out of that hole they're in.

Nets will suck badly this year with or without Lopez but definitely more without him.  they'll probably improve a little next year but not by much -- still be in the lottery and giving us their pick.
I think the rising cap has hurt them as much as it hurt our plans in FA. Without the rising cap there would have been more demand for cap clearing deals that they could have taken advantage of. Deals like Zeller and Thornton coming to us for example. Management in Brooklyn is going to have to be smart over the next few years to grow something out of nothing. I wouldn't be surprised if Lopez was traded for smaller veteran assets on longer contracts just to give them a bit more flexibility in future trades
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-12, #3 on 11/27)
Post by: Redz on November 29, 2016, 07:56:02 AM
Linsanity to the rescue?
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-12, #3 on 11/27)
Post by: The One on November 29, 2016, 08:10:13 AM
Linsanity to the rescue?

Not defensively.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-12, #3 on 11/27)
Post by: mef730 on November 29, 2016, 01:35:13 PM
It's about to get interesting. After the Clippers tonight, who have had a couple of humiliating losses and are looking for someone to beat on, the Nets have four games that are all winnable. I'm not saying that they will win them all, but any of them is certainly up for grabs. Back-to-back wins against the same team are hard, so the Nets probably beat Milwaukee in one of those two.

Home against Milwaukee
Away against Milwaukee
Home against Washington
Home against Denver

I don't know much about injuries. Lin was already supposed to be back, but it's clear that the timetable got extended. So if we haven't heard anything by now, is it safe to assume it's a week or so before he's on the court? Or does he have the type of injury where, one day, he's just ready to go and where he is now means nothing? Only the Shadow, and doctors, know. Assuming that it's a week, though, he'll be back in time for December.

Note: In none of the four games above does either team have a BTB in terms of playing consecutive nights, so rest won't be as much of a factor.

Okay, I don't want to turn into Joe Optimism, but their schedule gets very difficult for the rest of December after Denver. Only three of the remaining 11 games in the month are at home, and those games are against the Lakers, GSW and Charlotte. There are no doubt some winnable games in there, including the one at Philadelphia (alas, only the first of four), but the odds would suggest that we are going to be comfortable heading into 2017.

Okay, burning question of the day: If I totaled all the BKN and PHL fans paying attention to their match-up and compared that number to the number of Celtics fans paying attention to that BKN v PHL game, which number would be higher?

Come to think of it, that's probably a gimme. So let me rephrase the question. In column A, we have the number of BKN and PHL fans paying attention to their match-up. In column B, we have the number of CBers paying attention. Which column is higher?

Mike
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-12, #3 on 11/27)
Post by: Quetzalcoatl on November 29, 2016, 08:03:18 PM
Watching Chris Paul in the pick and roll is just amazing.  I feel like I get better personally at basketball every time I watch him.  This game is really great so far.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-12, #3 on 11/27)
Post by: Smokeeye123 on November 29, 2016, 08:52:33 PM
Kings/76ers game tonight is another good win-win type of game for us.

Realistically I don't see how the Nets do any better than the 3rd worst record in the league when the smoke clears. After Brook Lopez and Jeremy Lin their team is D-League players and prospects.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-12, #3 on 11/27)
Post by: SHAQATTACK on November 29, 2016, 09:18:13 PM
Kings/76ers game tonight is another good win-win type of game for us.

Realistically I don't see how the Nets do any better than the 3rd worst record in the league when the smoke clears. After Brook Lopez and Jeremy Lin their team is D-League players and prospects.

Never forget the Nets are a mear Lopez hang nail infection or sprain  losing any and all games he is,out .   Without Lopez they d be lucky to,beat the Red Claws
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-12, #3 on 11/27)
Post by: mr. dee on November 29, 2016, 09:21:23 PM
Another day, another pending blowout loss against the Clippers. It's all good. :D
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-12, #3 on 11/27)
Post by: Vox_Populi on November 29, 2016, 09:21:30 PM
9 straight points by Austin "the Spawn" Rivers to put the Clippers up 16 in the 3rd. Well done lad.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-12, #3 on 11/27)
Post by: Phantom255x on November 29, 2016, 09:28:20 PM
9 straight points by Austin "the Spawn" Rivers to put the Clippers up 16 in the 3rd. Well done lad.

Ainge is a genius, he dealt Austin there to help us out in the long run  :laugh:
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-12, #3 on 11/27)
Post by: trickybilly on November 29, 2016, 09:30:47 PM
Interesting to see how many guys on Tier 1 this year. Looks like it could be at least 3, maybe as high as 5.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-12, #3 on 11/27)
Post by: fantankerous on November 29, 2016, 09:48:47 PM
Clippers getting lazy.  Game's not over yet.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-12, #3 on 11/27)
Post by: Ilikesports17 on November 29, 2016, 09:49:27 PM
Interesting to see how many guys on Tier 1 this year. Looks like it could be at least 3, maybe as high as 5.
Im expecting 0 with a massive second tier.

This is all the tier 1 guys since 09:
Ben Simmons, Blake Griffin, John Wall, Anthony Davis, Andrew Wiggins, Joel Embiid and Jabari Parker.

This draft doesnt seem to have a single one of these types save maybe Fultz.

If he was healthy I could see Giles in there, but too many injuries. 
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-12, #3 on 11/27)
Post by: ImShakHeIsShaq on November 29, 2016, 09:52:22 PM
and everyone cried about us not being good b/c we let mia hang around slightly...
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-12, #3 on 11/27)
Post by: Vox_Populi on November 29, 2016, 09:52:41 PM
Clippers now down 3 with 3 minutes left. Unbelievable choking from Doc's squad.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-12, #3 on 11/27)
Post by: Ogaju on November 29, 2016, 09:58:33 PM
this game is a dandy !!!!
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-12, #3 on 11/27)
Post by: Ogaju on November 29, 2016, 09:59:45 PM
why we didn't trade for Lopez is  beyond me
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-12, #3 on 11/27)
Post by: Phantom255x on November 29, 2016, 10:00:54 PM
Did the Clippers really just choke this... SMH what a bunch of pretenders  >:(
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-12, #3 on 11/27)
Post by: Denis998 on November 29, 2016, 10:01:01 PM
Thats wild, clippers are trash.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-12, #3 on 11/27)
Post by: Vox_Populi on November 29, 2016, 10:03:28 PM
This is hilarious and sad at the same time. Clippers will now have lost three in a row.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-12, #3 on 11/27)
Post by: mr. dee on November 29, 2016, 10:04:25 PM
Wow. I left awhile ago with Clips leading big only to get them see down by 3 in the last minute. LOL Clips still living up to their name as chokers.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-12, #3 on 11/27)
Post by: liam on November 29, 2016, 10:04:57 PM
Wow. I left awhile ago with Clips leading big only to get them see down by 3 in the last minute. LOL Clips still living up to their name as chokers.

Totes Choke!!
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-12, #3 on 11/27)
Post by: Denis998 on November 29, 2016, 10:05:00 PM
at least they tied it...
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-12, #3 on 11/27)
Post by: chambers on November 29, 2016, 10:05:14 PM
CP3!!!!
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-12, #3 on 11/27)
Post by: Ilikesports17 on November 29, 2016, 10:05:37 PM
Are you kidding me LA?
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-12, #3 on 11/27)
Post by: mr. dee on November 29, 2016, 10:05:57 PM
CP3 saving us!
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-12, #3 on 11/27)
Post by: Vox_Populi on November 29, 2016, 10:07:32 PM
I cheered louder for that then I do for some Celtic baskets. I'm disappointed in myself.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-12, #3 on 11/27)
Post by: chambers on November 29, 2016, 10:08:27 PM
btw what the hell is Jeremy Lin wearing? He should be ejected for that.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-12, #3 on 11/27)
Post by: Quetzalcoatl on November 29, 2016, 10:08:34 PM
Whooo and the Nets play the Bucks tomorrow who are currently about to blow out the Cavs.  Lets seal this Nets loss up!
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-12, #3 on 11/27)
Post by: JSD on November 29, 2016, 10:12:56 PM
Clips about to go down to the Nets...
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-12, #3 on 11/27)
Post by: saltlover on November 29, 2016, 10:13:05 PM
Whooo and the Nets play the Bucks tomorrow who are currently about to blow out the Cavs.  Lets seal this Nets loss up!

They play the Bucks Thursday, but otherwise, yeah.  Go Bucks!

Too bad Griffin was rested this game.  Shouldn't be so close.  But it's nice to see Lopez play so many minutes.  That should catch up with him vs. the Bucks.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-12, #3 on 11/27)
Post by: Denis998 on November 29, 2016, 10:13:09 PM
Just tuned into the game. Clippers defense sure does suck. Like there is no help what so ever.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-12, #3 on 11/27)
Post by: alldaboston on November 29, 2016, 10:13:23 PM
[dang], this Kilpatrick kid can score the ball, huh?
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-12, #3 on 11/27)
Post by: LarBrd33 on November 29, 2016, 10:13:36 PM
 Amazing they are able to do this despite being riddled with injuries.  Both Lin and Hollis-Jefferson are out.  They are still undefeated in games Jeremy Lin plays and Lopez gets 25+ minutes.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-12, #3 on 11/27)
Post by: chambers on November 29, 2016, 10:14:46 PM
Whooo and the Nets play the Bucks tomorrow who are currently about to blow out the Cavs.  Lets seal this Nets loss up!

They play the Bucks Thursday, but otherwise, yeah.  Go Bucks!

Too bad Griffin was rested this game.  Shouldn't be so close.  But it's nice to see Lopez play so many minutes.  That should catch up with him vs. the Bucks.

They are going to get sneaky wins like this every now and then, just like they did last year. They are heartbreakers, but when you shoot that many threes, every now and then you're going to win a few- even if it means they'll suck the other 75% of the time.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-12, #3 on 11/27)
Post by: csfansince60s on November 29, 2016, 10:18:57 PM
Weird night tonight.

Cavs losing to Bucks, spurs losing to Magic, Nets beating Clips.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-12, #3 on 11/27)
Post by: SCeltic34 on November 29, 2016, 10:20:02 PM
Terrible in-game management from Doc.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-12, #3 on 11/27)
Post by: Vox_Populi on November 29, 2016, 10:25:31 PM
This is hilarious. Doc tossed.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-12, #3 on 11/27)
Post by: liam on November 29, 2016, 10:26:25 PM
This is hilarious. Doc tossed.

Yeah, way to lose your cool Doc!
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-12, #3 on 11/27)
Post by: alldaboston on November 29, 2016, 10:26:29 PM
what just happened? i turned on the game and saw Doc in a fit of rage

edit: and WHAT is Lin wearing?
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-12, #3 on 11/27)
Post by: saltlover on November 29, 2016, 10:26:34 PM
This is hilarious. Doc tossed.

And Kilpatrick can't make any free throws!
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-12, #3 on 11/27)
Post by: Ilikesports17 on November 29, 2016, 10:27:07 PM
wow Nets blew a chance to ice it.

come through again CP3
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-12, #3 on 11/27)
Post by: csfansince60s on November 29, 2016, 10:27:55 PM
This is hilarious. Doc tossed.

Half hour too late.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-12, #3 on 11/27)
Post by: SCeltic34 on November 29, 2016, 10:28:45 PM
This is one of the most bizarre games in recent memory. 

Blessing that Doc got tossed.  He was pretty [dang] bad tonight.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-12, #3 on 11/27)
Post by: trickybilly on November 29, 2016, 10:29:24 PM
Crazy. What a back breaker for the Nets..
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-12, #3 on 11/27)
Post by: Denis998 on November 29, 2016, 10:29:25 PM
doc tried to fight the ref lol.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-12, #3 on 11/27)
Post by: alldaboston on November 29, 2016, 10:29:35 PM
JAMAL CRAWFORD!
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-12, #3 on 11/27)
Post by: alldaboston on November 29, 2016, 10:30:04 PM
doc tried to fight the ref lol.

the replay in slow motion was so funny! he looked like he was breaking out some dance moves haha
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-12, #3 on 11/27)
Post by: Ilikesports17 on November 29, 2016, 10:30:23 PM
Did paul hit the 3? or Crawford?
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-12, #3 on 11/27)
Post by: Vox_Populi on November 29, 2016, 10:30:45 PM
This is hilarious. Doc tossed.

And Kilpatrick can't make any free throws!

And Crawford ties it. We've all been made dumber by watching this game.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-12, #3 on 11/27)
Post by: Ilikesports17 on November 29, 2016, 10:30:55 PM
Did paul hit the 3? or Crawford?
my bad. it was Crawford.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-12, #3 on 11/27)
Post by: Ogaju on November 29, 2016, 10:32:06 PM
Doc is out...Clippers should roll now.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-12, #3 on 11/27)
Post by: jpotter33 on November 29, 2016, 10:33:21 PM
Just saw the Doc highlight. What was he mad about? Was it an issue with the lady ref again with Paul?
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-12, #3 on 11/27)
Post by: liam on November 29, 2016, 10:36:03 PM
Clippers look gassed!
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-12, #3 on 11/27)
Post by: Vox_Populi on November 29, 2016, 10:37:45 PM
Just saw the Doc highlight. What was he mad about? Was it an issue with the lady ref again with Paul?
Jordan made a free throw to make it a two point game. Nets quickly inbound. Clippers trap. Lauren Holtkamp (lady ref) called a foul on Paul on the double. Doc didn't like it. Ken Mauer calls him for a meh technical, Doc loses his gasket, gets tossed.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-12, #3 on 11/27)
Post by: Silent Storm on November 29, 2016, 10:38:35 PM
Just saw the Doc highlight. What was he mad about? Was it an issue with the lady ref again with Paul?

First, a foul was called when the Clippers were going for the steal and not trying to foul. Then Doc got a technical because the refs claimed he said something that he denied saying, and subsequently had a meltdown.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-12, #3 on 11/27)
Post by: liam on November 29, 2016, 10:38:54 PM
Just saw the Doc highlight. What was he mad about? Was it an issue with the lady ref again with Paul?
Jordan made a free throw to make it a two point game. Nets quickly inbound. Clippers trap. Lauren Holtkamp (lady ref) called a foul on Paul on the double. Doc didn't like it. Ken Mauer calls him for a meh technical, Doc loses his gasket, gets tossed.

It was crazy!
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-12, #3 on 11/27)
Post by: Denis998 on November 29, 2016, 10:38:58 PM
Austin had a wide open look
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-12, #3 on 11/27)
Post by: Ogaju on November 29, 2016, 10:39:34 PM
does Doc have an issue with that official?
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-12, #3 on 11/27)
Post by: alldaboston on November 29, 2016, 10:41:32 PM
smh, off DJ
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-12, #3 on 11/27)
Post by: Ilikesports17 on November 29, 2016, 10:44:35 PM
too bad no Griffin today. would have been an easy win.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-12, #3 on 11/27)
Post by: Denis998 on November 29, 2016, 10:45:02 PM
game.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-12, #3 on 11/27)
Post by: SCeltic34 on November 29, 2016, 10:45:16 PM
None of the Clippers players have figured out that Kilpatrick always crosses over left to right and drives right, even though he's been doing that the entire night.  Low BBIQ.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-12, #3 on 11/27)
Post by: trickybilly on November 29, 2016, 10:45:19 PM
Ugh...
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-12, #3 on 11/27)
Post by: liam on November 29, 2016, 10:45:33 PM
That's got to be it! Kilpatrick!
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-12, #3 on 11/27)
Post by: alldaboston on November 29, 2016, 10:45:39 PM
sigh

kid is a scorer, that's for sure. and whitehead is kinda like Smart. feisty defender, but he actually can drive to the rim lol
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-12, #3 on 11/27)
Post by: Vox_Populi on November 29, 2016, 10:46:22 PM
The Nets deserve this. Clippers gave up a career night to basically a super D-League player. Embarrassing.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-12, #3 on 11/27)
Post by: jpotter33 on November 29, 2016, 10:46:43 PM
does Doc have an issue with that official?

Paul and the lady ref have a long history, and it's seemingly always something controversial when she refs them.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-12, #3 on 11/27)
Post by: SHAQATTACK on November 29, 2016, 10:46:50 PM
Ugh...

Doc 's revenge
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-12, #3 on 11/27)
Post by: alldaboston on November 29, 2016, 10:50:18 PM
does Doc have an issue with that official?

Paul and the lady ref have a long history, and it's seemingly always something controversial when she refs them.

she does make a ton of questionable calls though. not the best ref in the NBA, and it has nothing to do with her gender.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-12, #3 on 11/27)
Post by: LarBrd33 on November 29, 2016, 10:52:40 PM
Lol just saw the clip of Doc flipping out.  Man that was intense.   
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-12, #3 on 11/27)
Post by: liam on November 29, 2016, 10:54:03 PM
does Doc have an issue with that official?

Paul and the lady ref have a long history, and it's seemingly always something controversial when she refs them.

she does make a ton of questionable calls though. not the best ref in the NBA, and it has nothing to do with her gender.

She's not a good ref. The best refs in the NBA are the ones you don't know there names. They call no attention to themselves...
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-12, #3 on 11/27)
Post by: tazzmaniac on November 29, 2016, 11:08:21 PM
does Doc have an issue with that official?

Paul and the lady ref have a long history, and it's seemingly always something controversial when she refs them.

she does make a ton of questionable calls though. not the best ref in the NBA, and it has nothing to do with her gender.

She's not a good ref. The best refs in the NBA are the ones you don't know there names. They call no attention to themselves...
It was a good call.  Paul did commit the foul.  She's the only female ref.  She's not going to blend in. 
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-12, #3 on 11/27)
Post by: Ogaju on November 30, 2016, 12:01:23 AM
I thought there were two female refs, no?
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (5-12, #4 on 11/30)
Post by: tarheelsxxiii on November 30, 2016, 12:04:29 AM
I just noticed this loss and was p---ed until I realized the NBA just didn't make sense today. 
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (4-12, #3 on 11/27)
Post by: tazzmaniac on November 30, 2016, 12:13:02 AM
I thought there were two female refs, no?
Violet Palmer retired so I think Lauren Holtkamp is the only one now.   
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (5-12, #4 on 11/30)
Post by: SHAQATTACK on November 30, 2016, 12:13:40 AM
I just noticed this loss and was p---ed until I realized the NBA just didn't make sense today.

This might be my favorite quote on Celtics blog ever.  TP  ;)
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (5-12, #4 on 11/30)
Post by: jpotter33 on November 30, 2016, 12:35:33 AM
I just noticed this loss and was p---ed until I realized the NBA just didn't make sense today.

Did you see JR Smith hugging Jason Terry in the middle of a play, allowing a Bucks score? lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4d-kuxgsowM
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (5-12, #4 on 11/30)
Post by: tarheelsxxiii on November 30, 2016, 12:52:00 AM
I just noticed this loss and was p---ed until I realized the NBA just didn't make sense today.

Did you see JR Smith hugging Jason Terry in the middle of a play, allowing a Bucks score? lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4d-kuxgsowM

Thank you, my life is complete.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (5-12, #4 on 11/30)
Post by: Adelaide Celt on November 30, 2016, 11:42:45 PM
A mixed bag of results today concerning the Nets pick. Dallas blowing a lead in the 4th quarter against the Spurs, Washington losing to OKC in overtime and Minnesota losing by 2 against the Knicks. On the bright side Miami won in Denver and Phoenix held on to beat Atlanta by 2.

We're still in a good spot. Though this year there seems to be lot more uncertainty about the top picks. Last year's top 2 was easy, Simmons and Ingram, only after that did it get complicated. Right now it's all up in the air.

Obviously there's still a whole season of college ball for players to establish themselves but right now it looks like there could be a lot more pressure picking in the top 5 or so. Danny and co have their work cut out for them.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (5-12, #4 on 11/30)
Post by: tazzmaniac on December 01, 2016, 12:03:03 AM
A mixed bag of results today concerning the Nets pick. Dallas blowing a lead in the 4th quarter against the Spurs, Washington losing to OKC in overtime and Minnesota losing by 2 against the Knicks. On the bright side Miami won in Denver and Phoenix held on to beat Atlanta by 2.

We're still in a good spot. Though this year there seems to be lot more uncertainty about the top picks. Last year's top 2 was easy, Simmons and Ingram, only after that did it get complicated. Right now it's all up in the air.

Obviously there's still a whole season of college ball for players to establish themselves but right now it looks like there could be a lot more pressure picking in the top 5 or so. Danny and co have their work cut out for them.
I'd phrase it as a lot more opportunity.  There will be lots of good young talent to evaluate.  The 1st upperclassman in the DraftExpress mock is at 26. 
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (5-12, #4 on 11/30)
Post by: libermaniac on December 01, 2016, 02:33:24 AM
A mixed bag of results today concerning the Nets pick. Dallas blowing a lead in the 4th quarter against the Spurs, Washington losing to OKC in overtime and Minnesota losing by 2 against the Knicks. On the bright side Miami won in Denver and Phoenix held on to beat Atlanta by 2.

We're still in a good spot. Though this year there seems to be lot more uncertainty about the top picks. Last year's top 2 was easy, Simmons and Ingram, only after that did it get complicated. Right now it's all up in the air.

Obviously there's still a whole season of college ball for players to establish themselves but right now it looks like there could be a lot more pressure picking in the top 5 or so. Danny and co have their work cut out for them.
I'd phrase it as a lot more opportunity.  There will be lots of good young talent to evaluate.  The 1st upperclassman in the DraftExpress mock is at 26.
And a lot less pressure to get a top 2 pick. If the Nets end up with a bottom 4 or 5 record we'll probably get a good pick. Obviously the worse they are the better, but I'm not going to get as stressed this year over every Nets win.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (5-12, #4 on 11/30)
Post by: mef730 on December 01, 2016, 01:58:28 PM
Anyone know anything about Motiejunas?

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/18179922/brooklyn-nets-likely-sign-donatas-motiejunas-offer-sheet

Mike
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (5-12, #4 on 11/30)
Post by: Smartacus on December 01, 2016, 02:50:29 PM
Anyone know anything about Motiejunas?

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/18179922/brooklyn-nets-likely-sign-donatas-motiejunas-offer-sheet

Mike

6'11 Big Euro who shoot's three but is also known to have a well developed low post game. Good Shooter, mediocre rebounder, OK defender. Motie was traded to Detroit last year at the deadline for a 1st but the deal was voided after DM failed his physical.

Some speculated that Van Gundy just had second thoughts and could have allowed the trade go through if he wanted. Motiejunas has battled injuries throughout his career and clearly thinks he's better than what the Rockets were offering him.

Rockets were originally thought to be deciding between Motie and Terrance Jones but ended up signing Ryan Anderson making both expendable.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (5-12, #4 on 11/30)
Post by: celticsclay on December 01, 2016, 03:49:04 PM
I think he was promising but seems to have completely had his career derailed by injuries.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (5-12, #4 on 11/30)
Post by: SCeltic34 on December 01, 2016, 09:50:01 PM
Milwaukee crushing the Nets in t he 2nd half.

I'm still a bit annoyed by the Clippers resting Griffin and blowing a 18 point lead the other night.  Nets could easily be 4-14 after losing the the Bucks tonight.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (5-12, #4 on 11/30)
Post by: csfansince60s on December 01, 2016, 09:56:18 PM
 I've got to step back from the edge after some of these Nets wins.....Like last night which was inexcusable.   Its getting bad, perspective-wise, when Nets win bother me more than Celtics losses .

Doc is definitely not the brightest bulb in the circuit .
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (5-12, #4 on 11/30)
Post by: saltlover on December 01, 2016, 09:58:27 PM
Anyone know anything about Motiejunas?

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/18179922/brooklyn-nets-likely-sign-donatas-motiejunas-offer-sheet

Mike

6'11 Big Euro who shoot's three but is also known to have a well developed low post game. Good Shooter, mediocre rebounder, OK defender. Motie was traded to Detroit last year at the deadline for a 1st but the deal was voided after DM failed his physical.

Some speculated that Van Gundy just had second thoughts and could have allowed the trade go through if he wanted. Motiejunas has battled injuries throughout his career and clearly thinks he's better than what the Rockets were offering him.

Rockets were originally thought to be deciding between Motie and Terrance Jones but ended up signing Ryan Anderson making both expendable.

I expect the Rockets will match the Nets offer sheet.  It doesn't sound like anything more than the first year will be guaranteed.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (5-12, #4 on 11/30)
Post by: trickybilly on December 02, 2016, 11:36:13 AM
I've got to step back from the edge after some of these nets wins   Like last night which are inexcusable.   Its getting  Bad win Nets win bother me more than Celtics losses .

Doc is definitely not the brightest bulb in the circuit .

Agreed so much. Horford is brilliant, but we still don't have a superstar. Cousins is. If this pick stays top 3, we probably only need to add a one of Brown, Bradley, Smart or Crowder, and Terry Rozier and filler.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (5-13, #3 on 12/1)
Post by: chambers on December 02, 2016, 11:39:25 AM
Bucks crush the Nets and they are tied with Milwaukee for 3rd worst record. Only Dallas and 76ers behind them. To think Dallas is only 2 wins behind the Nets is a pretty great feeling. The Nets look more and more like a bottom 3 team, with a Lopez injury away from being the worst team.

Right now the only team that looks like it will hold that other bottom 3 spot is the 76ers.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (5-13, #3 on 12/1)
Post by: trickybilly on December 02, 2016, 12:14:01 PM
Bucks crush the Nets and they are tied with Milwaukee for 3rd worst record. Only Dallas and 76ers behind them. To think Dallas is only 2 wins behind the Nets is a pretty great feeling. The Nets look more and more like a bottom 3 team, with a Lopez injury away from being the worst team.

Right now the only team that looks like it will hold that other bottom 3 spot is the 76ers.

Embiid's minutes restriction just got a little more relaxed today.I think Philly can catch them. Dallas on the other hand...sheesh.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (5-13, #3 on 12/1)
Post by: hpantazo on December 02, 2016, 01:20:25 PM
Bucks crush the Nets and they are tied with Milwaukee for 3rd worst record. Only Dallas and 76ers behind them. To think Dallas is only 2 wins behind the Nets is a pretty great feeling. The Nets look more and more like a bottom 3 team, with a Lopez injury away from being the worst team.

Right now the only team that looks like it will hold that other bottom 3 spot is the 76ers.

Embiid's minutes restriction just got a little more relaxed today.I think Philly can catch them. Dallas on the other hand...sheesh.

Phili is going to get out of he bottom 5 by the end of he season. Embiid will play more minutes, Simmons will start playing, and they will trade Noel for some guard help.

The Suns though I think will get worse and will be a legit contender for the worst record.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (5-13, #3 on 12/1)
Post by: mef730 on December 02, 2016, 01:49:43 PM
Milwaukee, Washington and Denver are the next three games. If they can pull off a 1-2 during that time, I will be very, very excited. The rest of December looks ugly for them.

Mike
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (5-12, #4 on 11/30)
Post by: SCeltic34 on December 02, 2016, 08:51:12 PM
Anyone know anything about Motiejunas?

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/18179922/brooklyn-nets-likely-sign-donatas-motiejunas-offer-sheet

Mike

6'11 Big Euro who shoot's three but is also known to have a well developed low post game. Good Shooter, mediocre rebounder, OK defender. Motie was traded to Detroit last year at the deadline for a 1st but the deal was voided after DM failed his physical.

Some speculated that Van Gundy just had second thoughts and could have allowed the trade go through if he wanted. Motiejunas has battled injuries throughout his career and clearly thinks he's better than what the Rockets were offering him.

Rockets were originally thought to be deciding between Motie and Terrance Jones but ended up signing Ryan Anderson making both expendable.

I expect the Rockets will match the Nets offer sheet.  It doesn't sound like anything more than the first year will be guaranteed.

Nets offer 4-year $37 million to Motiejunas, with the 2 back years non-guaranteed.  Houston is likely to match according to Woj.

http://www.netsdaily.com/2016/12/2/13825794/nets-sign-motiejunas-to-four-year-37-million-offer-sheet (http://www.netsdaily.com/2016/12/2/13825794/nets-sign-motiejunas-to-four-year-37-million-offer-sheet)

The Nets seem to like picking up injured folks - McCullough, LeVert, and Motiejunas, who is coming off of 2 back surgeries.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (5-12, #4 on 11/30)
Post by: csfansince60s on December 02, 2016, 09:18:11 PM
Anyone know anything about Motiejunas?

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/18179922/brooklyn-nets-likely-sign-donatas-motiejunas-offer-sheet

Mike

6'11 Big Euro who shoot's three but is also known to have a well developed low post game. Good Shooter, mediocre rebounder, OK defender. Motie was traded to Detroit last year at the deadline for a 1st but the deal was voided after DM failed his physical.

Some speculated that Van Gundy just had second thoughts and could have allowed the trade go through if he wanted. Motiejunas has battled injuries throughout his career and clearly thinks he's better than what the Rockets were offering him.

Rockets were originally thought to be deciding between Motie and Terrance Jones but ended up signing Ryan Anderson making both expendable.

I expect the Rockets will match the Nets offer sheet.  It doesn't sound like anything more than the first year will be guaranteed.

Nets offer 4-year $37 million to Motiejunas, with the 2 back years non-guaranteed.  Houston is likely to match according to Woj.

http://www.netsdaily.com/2016/12/2/13825794/nets-sign-motiejunas-to-four-year-37-million-offer-sheet (http://www.netsdaily.com/2016/12/2/13825794/nets-sign-motiejunas-to-four-year-37-million-offer-sheet)

The Nets seem to like picking up injured folks - McCullough, LeVert, and Motiejunas, who is coming off of 2 back surgeries.

Sounds like the Hinkie Seventy Stinkers, but at least they had draft picks.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (5-13, #3 on 12/1)
Post by: mr. dee on December 02, 2016, 09:35:07 PM
Wrong thread
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (5-13, #3 on 12/1)
Post by: Quetzalcoatl on December 03, 2016, 06:36:37 PM
I was just about to write "The Nets are getting shut down by the Bucks right now and they're not even over relying on Antetokounmpo.  This might be the blueprint against them going forward" and then Kilpatrick started getting red hot.  I still think the Bucks win it, but the Nets always give me heart attacks.  They have so many close games, granted that they lose, but it's always nice to see them get totally blown out.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (5-13, #3 on 12/1)
Post by: bopna on December 03, 2016, 06:54:15 PM
Cmon Giannis...dont let me down.
Beat em Nets.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (5-13, #3 on 12/1)
Post by: Denis998 on December 03, 2016, 07:08:50 PM
Looks like brooklyn is going to win, if only teams would catch on they get hot in the 2nd half.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (5-13, #3 on 12/1)
Post by: MattyIce on December 03, 2016, 07:18:02 PM
Looks like brooklyn is going to win, if only teams would catch on they get hot in the 2nd half.
nets down 5, don't they have very poor 3rd quarters generally?
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (5-13, #3 on 12/1)
Post by: jpotter33 on December 03, 2016, 07:21:54 PM
Two close losses to the Bucks? I think that makes up for that freak win against the Clippers in Brooklyn.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (5-13, #3 on 12/1)
Post by: danglertx on December 03, 2016, 07:22:05 PM
Looks like the Nets are going to lose.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (5-13, #3 on 12/1)
Post by: SCeltic34 on December 03, 2016, 07:22:12 PM
Bucks starters really stepped up in the last 5-6 minutes of the game after terrible play from their bench.  Kidd's rotations are questionable at times.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (5-13, #3 on 12/1)
Post by: danglertx on December 03, 2016, 07:26:09 PM
The Nets just look like they have nowhere to go with the ball late in close games.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (5-13, #3 on 12/1)
Post by: Denis998 on December 03, 2016, 07:26:12 PM
Looks like I reverse-Jinxed it. :D
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (5-13, #3 on 12/1)
Post by: SHAQATTACK on December 03, 2016, 07:30:57 PM
Looks like I reverse-Jinxed it. :D

Whew ....close .......Nets come though  ;D
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (5-13, #3 on 12/1)
Post by: Vox_Populi on December 03, 2016, 07:31:51 PM
5-14 is about as good as could have been hoped so far.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (5-13, #3 on 12/1)
Post by: Granath on December 03, 2016, 09:30:53 PM
5-14 is exactly the same record they had at this time last year.

In fact the Nets were 7-15 last year.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (5-13, #3 on 12/1)
Post by: chambers on December 03, 2016, 10:09:35 PM
Mavs picking up a nice win (up by 20 in the 3rd so not completely over) vs the Bulls today.

Kind of makes up for the Brooklyn win vs the Clippers the other night.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (5-13, #3 on 12/1)
Post by: Adelaide Celt on December 03, 2016, 10:27:16 PM
Good win by Minnesota in OT too.  :)
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (5-13, #3 on 12/1)
Post by: hwangjini_1 on December 03, 2016, 10:52:09 PM
5-14 is exactly the same record they had at this time last year.

In fact the Nets were 7-15 last year.
if the keep up this pace, the nets will win 21 to 22 games. this year their pick is looking good, once again.  ;D
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (5-13, #3 on 12/1)
Post by: ImShakHeIsShaq on December 03, 2016, 11:11:17 PM
ooh wee that December schedule looks good for us. omg, i can only hope those teams don't sleep on them. 



wait, jan looks even better for us.


wait, oh my sweet baby jesus, the rest of their schedule looks as difficult as i can ask for. please good/great teams do your jobs!!
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (5-13, #3 on 12/1)
Post by: mef730 on December 04, 2016, 11:56:09 AM
ooh wee that December schedule looks good for us. omg, i can only hope those teams don't sleep on them.

That's my only fear, because the Nets don't give up. If somebody falls asleep on them, they might catch up. But after Washington and Denver over the next few days, they may not be the favorite to win a game for the rest of the month.

Mike
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (5-14, #3 on 12/3)
Post by: max215 on December 05, 2016, 04:53:09 PM
Houston has matched DMo's offer sheet per Woj. This was expected, but is a huge win nonetheless.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (5-14, #3 on 12/3)
Post by: footey on December 05, 2016, 05:10:43 PM
It's too bad the 2017 draft lacks bigs the caliber of Embiid, Towns, or Porzingis, because that is what we truly need the most.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (5-14, #3 on 12/3)
Post by: Quetzalcoatl on December 05, 2016, 05:11:54 PM
TP Max, thanks for the news.

The Nets aren't just bad, but they're tying up a bunch of teams with good young cores that could be competition for us with bad cap deals.  Their offer sheets for DMo, Crabbe and that dude on Miami are all going to be real impediments going forward.  Thanks guys.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (5-14, #3 on 12/3)
Post by: saltlover on December 05, 2016, 05:18:08 PM
TP Max, thanks for the news.

The Nets aren't just bad, but they're tying up a bunch of teams with good young cores that could be competition for us with bad cap deals.  Their offer sheets for DMo, Crabbe and that dude on Miami are all going to be real impediments going forward.  Thanks guys.

D-Mo's contract didn't have much in the way of guaranteed money beyond this season, so I don't think Houston will be impeded.  Tyler Johnson, on the other hand, will be an unpleasant contract for the Heat in two seasons.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (5-14, #3 on 12/3)
Post by: SHAQATTACK on December 05, 2016, 05:19:22 PM
It's too bad the 2017 draft lacks bigs the caliber of Embiid, Towns, or Porzingis, because that is what we truly need the most.

Since Shaq and KG s departure

Way to long playing tiny IT ball.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (5-14, #3 on 12/3)
Post by: max215 on December 05, 2016, 06:35:23 PM
It's too bad the 2017 draft lacks bigs the caliber of Embiid, Towns, or Porzingis, because that is what we truly need the most.

Healthy Giles. Of course, the catch is that healthy Giles doesn't exactly exist.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (5-14, #3 on 12/3)
Post by: mr. dee on December 05, 2016, 08:11:31 PM
Wizards is trailing against the Nets by 7. It's only 2nd quarter but I'm worried given how bad Wizard is.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (5-14, #3 on 12/3)
Post by: SHAQATTACK on December 05, 2016, 08:26:18 PM
The tank is strong with Wizz
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (5-14, #3 on 12/3)
Post by: SCeltic34 on December 05, 2016, 08:45:38 PM
Didn't the Wizards sign Scott Brooks to a 5 year contract?  What a grievous mistake that was.  He's among the worst coaches in the NBA and it shows with this year's Wizards team, which has enough talent to be at the very minimum a .500 team.  They looked like a complete mess on defense in the 1st half, both in the half court and in transition.  D-League caliber.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (5-14, #3 on 12/3)
Post by: Quetzalcoatl on December 05, 2016, 08:49:38 PM
The Wiz need to trade John Wall.  They are wasting a really good player's prime and they are losing out on draft position.  Just get some picks and move on.  Why are they trotting this team out?  It's really just sad at this point.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (5-14, #3 on 12/3)
Post by: Vox_Populi on December 05, 2016, 08:50:53 PM
Wizards only down 9 now with 10 left in the 3rd. Please choke Brooklyn.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (5-14, #3 on 12/3)
Post by: trickybilly on December 05, 2016, 09:06:59 PM
Watching Brooklyn and Jaylen only now...
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (5-14, #3 on 12/3)
Post by: chambers on December 05, 2016, 09:10:47 PM
Wizards coming back. Up by 5 points now, thats a 12 point swing thank god
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (5-14, #3 on 12/3)
Post by: Vox_Populi on December 05, 2016, 09:57:02 PM
Wizards were down by 18 in the 2nd. 15 at the half. Come back to win.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (5-14, #3 on 12/3)
Post by: trickybilly on December 05, 2016, 09:59:41 PM
Washington. What a tough team to love.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (5-15, #3 on 12/5)
Post by: mef730 on December 06, 2016, 12:01:21 PM
Feeling pretty good right now. Was thinking that, in this four game stretch of 2X MIL, WAS and DEN, that 1-3 would be a great result. It's hard to beat the same team 2X in a row and I figured that they would beat either WAS or DEN. 0-3 as we head into Denver is a great position.

Of course, that means that during their "rest of December from Hell," they'll probably go 4-7 or 5-6 and beat the Warriors and Cavs, making CBers' heads burst.

Mike
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (5-15, #3 on 12/5)
Post by: hwangjini_1 on December 06, 2016, 12:19:28 PM
Feeling pretty good right now. Was thinking that, in this four game stretch of 2X MIL, WAS and DEN, that 1-3 would be a great result. It's hard to beat the same team 2X in a row and I figured that they would beat either WAS or DEN. 0-3 as we head into Denver is a great position.

Of course, that means that during their "rest of December from Hell," they'll probably go 4-7 or 5-6 and beat the Warriors and Cavs, making CBers' heads burst.

Mike
no need to be pessimistic or negative. the nets really, really suck and why not be hopeful? its almost the holidays, and did i mention that the nets really, really suck?  ;D
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (5-15, #3 on 12/5)
Post by: TrueFan on December 06, 2016, 12:43:54 PM
Feeling pretty good right now. Was thinking that, in this four game stretch of 2X MIL, WAS and DEN, that 1-3 would be a great result. It's hard to beat the same team 2X in a row and I figured that they would beat either WAS or DEN. 0-3 as we head into Denver is a great position.

Of course, that means that during their "rest of December from Hell," they'll probably go 4-7 or 5-6 and beat the Warriors and Cavs, making CBers' heads burst.

Mike
no need to be pessimistic or negative. the nets really, really suck and why not be hopeful? its almost the holidays, and did i mention that the nets really, really suck?  ;D
Right on. I think they are 1-9 in the last ten games. I think a few more losses might break them. Good times.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (5-15, #3 on 12/5)
Post by: celticsclay on December 06, 2016, 12:47:19 PM
Feeling pretty good right now. Was thinking that, in this four game stretch of 2X MIL, WAS and DEN, that 1-3 would be a great result. It's hard to beat the same team 2X in a row and I figured that they would beat either WAS or DEN. 0-3 as we head into Denver is a great position.

Of course, that means that during their "rest of December from Hell," they'll probably go 4-7 or 5-6 and beat the Warriors and Cavs, making CBers' heads burst.

Mike
no need to be pessimistic or negative. the nets really, really suck and why not be hopeful? its almost the holidays, and did i mention that the nets really, really suck?  ;D
Right on. I think they are 1-9 in the last ten games. I think a few more losses might break them. Good times.

Are people really surprised? I feel like a few people thought for some reason RHJ and Mcullough were legit budding young stars. I really thought they had a bunch of bad players on their team after being forced to go with their plan c in free agency. Also, does Lin regret signing there?
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (5-15, #3 on 12/5)
Post by: apc on December 06, 2016, 12:50:07 PM
Feeling pretty good right now. Was thinking that, in this four game stretch of 2X MIL, WAS and DEN, that 1-3 would be a great result. It's hard to beat the same team 2X in a row and I figured that they would beat either WAS or DEN. 0-3 as we head into Denver is a great position.

Of course, that means that during their "rest of December from Hell," they'll probably go 4-7 or 5-6 and beat the Warriors and Cavs, making CBers' heads burst.

Mike
no need to be pessimistic or negative. the nets really, really suck and why not be hopeful? its almost the holidays, and did i mention that the nets really, really suck?  ;D
Right on. I think they are 1-9 in the last ten games. I think a few more losses might break them. Good times.

Are people really surprised? I feel like a few people thought for some reason RHJ and Mcullough were legit budding young stars. I really thought they had a bunch of bad players on their team after being forced to go with their plan c in free agency. Also, does Lin regret signing there?
To be fair, most Celts fans only watch the Nets when they play us, and some guys there sure look like allstars when they play us  ;)
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (5-15, #3 on 12/5)
Post by: Vox_Populi on December 06, 2016, 12:55:01 PM
Per Woj.

Quote
Sources: Donatas Motiejunas will not report to Rockets to take physical and join team. Rockets and RFA's reps discussing next steps.

Rockets options: Leave open current offer/deal and wait, or return Motiejunas to restricted free agency. He couldn't sign w/ Nets for a year

This is hilarious too.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (5-15, #3 on 12/5)
Post by: ImShakHeIsShaq on December 06, 2016, 12:57:31 PM
Feeling pretty good right now. Was thinking that, in this four game stretch of 2X MIL, WAS and DEN, that 1-3 would be a great result. It's hard to beat the same team 2X in a row and I figured that they would beat either WAS or DEN. 0-3 as we head into Denver is a great position.

Of course, that means that during their "rest of December from Hell," they'll probably go 4-7 or 5-6 and beat the Warriors and Cavs, making CBers' heads burst.

Mike
no need to be pessimistic or negative. the nets really, really suck and why not be hopeful? its almost the holidays, and did i mention that the nets really, really suck?  ;D
Right on. I think they are 1-9 in the last ten games. I think a few more losses might break them. Good times.

Are people really surprised? I feel like a few people thought for some reason RHJ and Mcullough were legit budding young stars. I really thought they had a bunch of bad players on their team after being forced to go with their plan c in free agency. Also, does Lin regret signing there?
To be fair, most Celts fans only watch the Nets when they play us, and some guys there sure look like allstars when they play us  ;)

You should really watch more, what's a few more years off your life? Watching the Nets beast on teams early and those teams looking like pure crap in the first half can make anyone go insane but then in the 2nd half Nets implode or teams play a few minutes of basketball and all is right with the world again when The Boston Nets come out victorious (lose)!
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (5-15, #3 on 12/5)
Post by: The One on December 06, 2016, 01:07:12 PM
2nd worst defensive rating.   ;D

2nd worst net rating.   ;D ;D

3rd worst record.   ;D ;D ;D


Woo hoo!!




Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (5-15, #3 on 12/5)
Post by: mef730 on December 06, 2016, 01:11:05 PM
Feeling pretty good right now. Was thinking that, in this four game stretch of 2X MIL, WAS and DEN, that 1-3 would be a great result. It's hard to beat the same team 2X in a row and I figured that they would beat either WAS or DEN. 0-3 as we head into Denver is a great position.

Of course, that means that during their "rest of December from Hell," they'll probably go 4-7 or 5-6 and beat the Warriors and Cavs, making CBers' heads burst.

Mike
no need to be pessimistic or negative. the nets really, really suck and why not be hopeful? its almost the holidays, and did i mention that the nets really, really suck?  ;D

Nope, I refuse to believe that. Until they do what they are supposed to do (lose their games to good teams), I shall be waiting for the other shoe to drop, knowing it is probably going to hit me in the head.

I don't have a choice, I grew up a Red Sox fan. And not like you young whippersnappers these days who think we win a World Series every five years. Nope. I grew up with Bob Stanley. Bucky F'ing Dent. The whole crew.

No, I can't play your reindeer games. I will be happy when Banner #18 is hanging from the rafters, and that will only last for 15 minutes, after which I will start worrying about Banner #19.

Yes, living in my head is very painful and dangerous.

Mike
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (5-15, #3 on 12/5)
Post by: mef730 on December 07, 2016, 09:10:08 PM
Well, I guess you can't lose them all.

Mike
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (5-15, #3 on 12/5)
Post by: csfansince60s on December 07, 2016, 09:12:49 PM
I HATE the Nuggets.

They come in here and kick our butts and are losing by 30 to Brooklyn!?!?!?!
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (5-15, #3 on 12/5)
Post by: SHAQATTACK on December 07, 2016, 09:30:53 PM
I HATE the Nuggets.

They come in here and kick our butts and are losing by 30 to Brooklyn!?!?!?!

I know ...this ...sucks donkey balls ......where is the guy that scored like 24 points in one 1/4 against us ? Now ?
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (5-15, #3 on 12/5)
Post by: Ilikesports17 on December 07, 2016, 09:32:17 PM
I HATE the Nuggets.

They come in here and kick our butts and are losing by 30 to Brooklyn!?!?!?!

I know ...this ...sucks donkey balls ......where is the guy that scored like 24 points in one 1/4 against us ? Now ?
They were down 30??? Its a 5 point game!!!!
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (5-15, #3 on 12/5)
Post by: SCeltic34 on December 07, 2016, 09:32:56 PM
Well they managed to cut it to 5.  Seeing as how bad Denver is, I could live with them going 1-1 against the Nets this season.  But obviously there's no guarantee they win even at home.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (5-15, #3 on 12/5)
Post by: MJohnnyboy on December 07, 2016, 09:33:19 PM
I HATE the Nuggets.

They come in here and kick our butts and are losing by 30 to Brooklyn!?!?!?!

I know ...this ...sucks donkey balls ......where is the guy that scored like 24 points in one 1/4 against us ? Now ?

It was mudiay.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (5-15, #3 on 12/5)
Post by: fairweatherfan on December 07, 2016, 09:33:48 PM
Best/worst part is Nuggets have blown plenty of plays but Brooklyn just insists on playing like they're gonna lose. It's like they got up 30 and then conceded   :D
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (5-15, #3 on 12/5)
Post by: SCeltic34 on December 07, 2016, 09:53:32 PM
What a mistake by Atkinson.  Why is Trevor Booker on the floor at the end of a game when you need to make free throws? 

Denver down 3 with the ball with 13 seconds to play.  Even if Brooklyn wins this game, they're on pace for only 23 wins with a difficult schedule coming up.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (5-15, #3 on 12/5)
Post by: Vox_Populi on December 07, 2016, 09:56:13 PM
Moral victory tonight. More proof Brooklyn truly are mediocre.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (5-15, #3 on 12/5)
Post by: Denis998 on December 07, 2016, 10:05:13 PM
Is Mudiay even good? Was so much hype on him in the draft.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (5-15, #3 on 12/5)
Post by: csfansince60s on December 07, 2016, 10:31:22 PM
Is Mudiay even good? Was so much hype on him in the draft.

He played like Kobe against us.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (6-15, #4 on 12/7)
Post by: mef730 on December 08, 2016, 02:07:32 PM
Look at the Nets schedule for the rest of the month. While there will no doubt be some surprise wins along the way, the next couple of weeks won't be easy for them.

Truthfully, the Nets are doing exactly what we need them to do for us. They're sucking. The teams who aren't living up to expectations are their "competitors" for that bottom slot.

Mike
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (5-15, #3 on 12/5)
Post by: green_bballers13 on December 08, 2016, 02:12:51 PM
Is Mudiay even good? Was so much hype on him in the draft.

Yes, he's good. He's also young. It is crazy to expect players to hit their primes before 26-27.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (6-15, #4 on 12/7)
Post by: celticsclay on December 09, 2016, 03:30:33 PM
Quietly the 76ers won last night. They pulled within one win of the nets. With Noel due back soon and presumably an appearance from Simmons at some point I predict they pass the Nets.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (6-15, #4 on 12/7)
Post by: mef730 on December 09, 2016, 04:31:51 PM
I love the name Spencer Dinwiddie. Even more than I like the name "Yogi."

Mike
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (6-15, #4 on 12/7)
Post by: Emmette Bryant on December 10, 2016, 10:17:48 PM
Spurs are leading the Nets 103-70 at the end of the third quarter.  Looks like the Nets forgot to play defense.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (6-15, #4 on 12/7)
Post by: hwangjini_1 on December 10, 2016, 10:43:10 PM
Spurs are leading the Nets 103-70 at the end of the third quarter.  Looks like the Nets forgot to play defense.
and god bless them for it.  ;D
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (6-15, #4 on 12/7)
Post by: chambers on December 11, 2016, 01:45:36 AM
Spurs are leading the Nets 103-70 at the end of the third quarter.  Looks like the Nets forgot to play defense.
and god bless them for it.  ;D

lol.
Greg Popovich, sent by the lord himself.

Wizards unfortunately lost at home, Mavs lost too.

Good news is that right now the Nets, from a an eye test POV, look like the 2nd or 3rd worst team in the NBA, with a solid chance to be the worst if Ben Simmons gives the 76ers a few more wins and Embid's minutes restrictions are lifted.

At this point in the season we are looking something like a 65% chance of a top 3 pick with that % improving as the season goes along.

Only two teams that are as bad as the Nets are the 76ers and potentially the Wolves- but they should still etch out a few more wins than the Nets.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (6-15, #4 on 12/7)
Post by: jpotter33 on December 11, 2016, 02:52:23 AM
Spurs are leading the Nets 103-70 at the end of the third quarter.  Looks like the Nets forgot to play defense.
and god bless them for it.  ;D

lol.
Greg Popovich, sent by the lord himself.

Wizards unfortunately lost at home, Mavs lost too.

Good news is that right now the Nets, from a an eye test POV, look like the 2nd or 3rd worst team in the NBA, with a solid chance to be the worst if Ben Simmons gives the 76ers a few more wins and Embid's minutes restrictions are lifted.

At this point in the season we are looking something like a 65% chance of a top 3 pick with that % improving as the season goes along.

Only two teams that are as bad as the Nets are the 76ers and potentially the Wolves- but they should still etch out a few more wins than the Nets.

Yeah, you have to think a healthy Simmons helps them out some more, along with Rozier after we send him for Noel.  ;)

But seriously, the Wolves kill me. I thought they'd be fighting for the back-end of the playoffs this year, not one of the worst teams in the league. Their youth kills them in the second half. They can't close games for crap!
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (6-15, #4 on 12/7)
Post by: chambers on December 11, 2016, 07:52:06 AM
Spurs are leading the Nets 103-70 at the end of the third quarter.  Looks like the Nets forgot to play defense.
and god bless them for it.  ;D

lol.
Greg Popovich, sent by the lord himself.

Wizards unfortunately lost at home, Mavs lost too.

Good news is that right now the Nets, from a an eye test POV, look like the 2nd or 3rd worst team in the NBA, with a solid chance to be the worst if Ben Simmons gives the 76ers a few more wins and Embid's minutes restrictions are lifted.

At this point in the season we are looking something like a 65% chance of a top 3 pick with that % improving as the season goes along.

Only two teams that are as bad as the Nets are the 76ers and potentially the Wolves- but they should still etch out a few more wins than the Nets.

Yeah, you have to think a healthy Simmons helps them out some more, along with Rozier after we send him for Noel.  ;)

But seriously, the Wolves kill me. I thought they'd be fighting for the back-end of the playoffs this year, not one of the worst teams in the league. Their youth kills them in the second half. They can't close games for crap!


I know right. They are simply awful in the 2nd half. I'm hoping that their youth and stamina with more experience than last year will get them an extra 5 wins over the 2nd half of the season than they're projecting right now.

Thibs offense is pretty trash too, he's trying to build a defensive ethic there and he's thrown the offense in the bin until the defense is set up.

But yeah, to me they're still 5 wins better than the Nets overall.
All this could change with an injury though so...

Things are looking very, very good for us come draft night.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (6-15, #4 on 12/7)
Post by: tazzmaniac on December 11, 2016, 08:27:57 AM
Spurs are leading the Nets 103-70 at the end of the third quarter.  Looks like the Nets forgot to play defense.
and god bless them for it.  ;D

lol.
Greg Popovich, sent by the lord himself.

Wizards unfortunately lost at home, Mavs lost too.

Good news is that right now the Nets, from a an eye test POV, look like the 2nd or 3rd worst team in the NBA, with a solid chance to be the worst if Ben Simmons gives the 76ers a few more wins and Embid's minutes restrictions are lifted.

At this point in the season we are looking something like a 65% chance of a top 3 pick with that % improving as the season goes along.

Only two teams that are as bad as the Nets are the 76ers and potentially the Wolves- but they should still etch out a few more wins than the Nets.

Yeah, you have to think a healthy Simmons helps them out some more, along with Rozier after we send him for Noel.  ;)

But seriously, the Wolves kill me. I thought they'd be fighting for the back-end of the playoffs this year, not one of the worst teams in the league. Their youth kills them in the second half. They can't close games for crap!


I know right. They are simply awful in the 2nd half. I'm hoping that their youth and stamina with more experience than last year will get them an extra 5 wins over the 2nd half of the season than they're projecting right now.

Thibs offense is pretty trash too, he's trying to build a defensive ethic there and he's thrown the offense in the bin until the defense is set up.

But yeah, to me they're still 5 wins better than the Nets overall.
All this could change with an injury though so...

Things are looking very, very good for us come draft night.
The TWolves defense is bottom 5 again.  Towns, LaVine and Wiggins are all at the very bottom in DRPM.  Hard to build a defensive ethic when your top 3 players suck defensively. 
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (6-16, #4 on 12/10)
Post by: Neurotic Guy on December 11, 2016, 08:28:49 AM
I think the impetus to tank feels less this year in what projects to be a deep draft. The usual suspects are all wanting to nurture there future stars and some seem ready to blossom.  I can't fathom Sixers or Wolves tanking for the top slot rather than trying to Kickstart a winning (or at least trying) culture.  Mavs are a concern though - Dirk is supposedly back next week but they need to start winning soon or they'll be sellers -- virtual tank.

As each Nets loss passes, the idea of trading this year's pick becomes more unacceptable.  Other than guys who are unattainable, I can't see who would be worth spending the pick for. 
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (6-16, #4 on 12/10)
Post by: winsomme on December 11, 2016, 08:52:21 AM
The problem is that Dallas, Philly, Minny, and Miami are all bad basketball teams. They are just plain bad - tank or no tank. And even if they are not tanking now, they will get to a point in the season where it will seem like a lost season, and that at that point they will start tanking.

Minnesota had a chance to be halfway decent, but after watching them some, they are just a bad team. And they are certainly gonna get tired of coach Thibs yelling at them every night. I could see them going sour pretty quickly. They are a terrible outside shooting team.

Don't get me wrong, the Nets are terrible too, but I'm just not sure that that's gonna be enough to get a top 3 pick.

Hopeful but worried. I weirdly just want this season to be over. I hate having to watch the boxscores for another painful Brooklyn win.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (6-16, #4 on 12/10)
Post by: winsomme on December 11, 2016, 08:58:24 AM
If anybody thinks that Cuban isn't going to tank, read this snippet:

Quote
Mark Cuban is unlikely to part ways with the Dallas Mavericks' first round pick this year.

Cuban suggested he would only trade the Mavericks' first rounder, currently projected to be a top-5 selection, in exchange for a top-5 player in the entire NBA.

Cuban referenced the Dallas Cowboys' historical trade of Herschel Walker that setup their success of the 1990s as what it would take to trade the pick.

"If Herschel Walker calls me up and says, ‘That's better than any deal I've ever been involved with,'" Cuban joked.

The 2017 NBA Draft is expected to be one of the deepest in recent memory, particularly at the point guard position.


If he will only trade his pick for a top 5 player, he certainly is banking on that pick being top 5 as well.

He's a smart guy and knows that the quickest way for him to rebuild is to have a terrible season in a year with a lot of talent coming out of college.

Mark Cuban and Pat Reilly do not give a crap about how they are perceived. They will both unabashedly go for these prized picks. There is no doubt in my mind.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (6-16, #4 on 12/10)
Post by: tazzmaniac on December 11, 2016, 09:08:32 AM
The problem is that Dallas, Philly, Minny, and Miami are all bad basketball teams. They are just plain bad - tank or no tank. And even if they are not tanking now, they will get to a point in the season where it will seem like a lost season, and that at that point they will start tanking.

Minnesota had a chance to be halfway decent, but after watching them some, they are just a bad team. And they are certainly gonna get tired of coach Thibs yelling at them every night. I could see them going sour pretty quickly. They are a terrible outside shooting team.

Don't get me wrong, the Nets are terrible too, but I'm just not sure that that's gonna be enough to get a top 3 pick.

Hopeful but worried. I weirdly just want this season to be over. I hate having to watch the boxscores for another painful Brooklyn win.
Phoenix should be added to the list of bad teams that could finish worse than the Nets. 
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (6-16, #4 on 12/10)
Post by: winsomme on December 11, 2016, 09:44:15 AM
The problem is that Dallas, Philly, Minny, and Miami are all bad basketball teams. They are just plain bad - tank or no tank. And even if they are not tanking now, they will get to a point in the season where it will seem like a lost season, and that at that point they will start tanking.

Minnesota had a chance to be halfway decent, but after watching them some, they are just a bad team. And they are certainly gonna get tired of coach Thibs yelling at them every night. I could see them going sour pretty quickly. They are a terrible outside shooting team.

Don't get me wrong, the Nets are terrible too, but I'm just not sure that that's gonna be enough to get a top 3 pick.

Hopeful but worried. I weirdly just want this season to be over. I hate having to watch the boxscores for another painful Brooklyn win.
Phoenix should be added to the list of bad teams that could finish worse than the Nets.

I'm borderline on them and Sacramento.

I think Phoenix has a better mixture of talent than Philly and Minnesota. I'm surprise that that is the case because on paper both Philly and Minny should have more talent. But just watching it play out in games, I'd actually prefer the Suns pieces moving forward. They have a lot of balance and a lot of potential.

Booker, Bender, and Chriss are all potential all star talents, and if Len can become a dependable center, they really have a bright future.

And for now, they have a better chance of winning on a night in and night out basis than Philly and Minnesota.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (6-16, #4 on 12/10)
Post by: Eddie20 on December 11, 2016, 10:08:06 AM
The problem is that Dallas, Philly, Minny, and Miami are all bad basketball teams. They are just plain bad - tank or no tank. And even if they are not tanking now, they will get to a point in the season where it will seem like a lost season, and that at that point they will start tanking.

Minnesota had a chance to be halfway decent, but after watching them some, they are just a bad team. And they are certainly gonna get tired of coach Thibs yelling at them every night. I could see them going sour pretty quickly. They are a terrible outside shooting team.

Don't get me wrong, the Nets are terrible too, but I'm just not sure that that's gonna be enough to get a top 3 pick.

Hopeful but worried. I weirdly just want this season to be over. I hate having to watch the boxscores for another painful Brooklyn win.
Phoenix should be added to the list of bad teams that could finish worse than the Nets.

I'm borderline on them and Sacramento.

I think Phoenix has a better mixture of talent than Philly and Minnesota. I'm surprise that that is the case because on paper both Philly and Minny should have more talent. But just watching it play out in games, I'd actually prefer the Suns pieces moving forward. They have a lot of balance and a lot of potential.

Booker, Bender, and Chriss are all potential all star talents, and if Len can become a dependable center, they really have a bright future.

And for now, they have a better chance of winning on a night in and night out basis than Philly and Minnesota.

I'm beginning to sour on Booker. For a guy that's supposed to be a knockdown shooter he really struggles to shoot the ball. 42% from the field and 34% from 3's last season and 42% from the field and 32% from 3's this season. He's also a negative on the defensive end and doesn't do anything on the floor if it's not scoring. Season averages of 2.6 rpg, 2.8 apg, and 2.5 tov in 32.7 mpg.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (6-16, #4 on 12/10)
Post by: mef730 on December 11, 2016, 07:32:19 PM
My biggest concerns remain Phoenix, Sacramento and Philly, with New Orleans one Anthony Davis injury away from challenging all of them. I think Dallas eventually wins a few and Minnesota pulls together. They're just young; they'll get there.

Phoenix just sucks. SAC sucks also, but they'll outperform if Cousins hangs around. Philly has the talent, but they've got years of practice at losing. That's hard to overcome.

Mike
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (6-16, #4 on 12/10)
Post by: Neurotic Guy on December 11, 2016, 08:10:55 PM
Philly looks to be a winner in Detroit tonight.

Minnesota giving GSW a game. 
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (6-16, #4 on 12/10)
Post by: tarheelsxxiii on December 11, 2016, 08:20:43 PM
Philly looks to be a winner in Detroit tonight.

Minnesota giving GSW a game.

GS got pounded by Memphis last night, they won't lose 2 straight. But bummer re: Philly, nice win for them.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (6-16, #4 on 12/10)
Post by: moiso on December 11, 2016, 08:39:43 PM
If anybody thinks that Cuban isn't going to tank, read this snippet:

Quote
Mark Cuban is unlikely to part ways with the Dallas Mavericks' first round pick this year.

Cuban suggested he would only trade the Mavericks' first rounder, currently projected to be a top-5 selection, in exchange for a top-5 player in the entire NBA.

Cuban referenced the Dallas Cowboys' historical trade of Herschel Walker that setup their success of the 1990s as what it would take to trade the pick.

"If Herschel Walker calls me up and says, ‘That's better than any deal I've ever been involved with,'" Cuban joked.

The 2017 NBA Draft is expected to be one of the deepest in recent memory, particularly at the point guard position.


If he will only trade his pick for a top 5 player, he certainly is banking on that pick being top 5 as well.

He's a smart guy and knows that the quickest way for him to rebuild is to have a terrible season in a year with a lot of talent coming out of college.

Mark Cuban and Pat Reilly do not give a crap about how they are perceived. They will both unabashedly go for these prized picks. There is no doubt in my mind.
But nowhere does he imply that he would try to make his team worse, have healthy players sit out games, or lose games on purpose.  I don't see him doing any of those things.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (6-16, #4 on 12/10)
Post by: SCeltic34 on December 11, 2016, 08:57:07 PM
'Sota up 10 against Golden State after 3.  I don't believe in jinxes, but I'm guessing the TWolves will end up losing because they tend to collapse late game.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (6-16, #4 on 12/10)
Post by: mef730 on December 11, 2016, 09:13:32 PM
GS +5. The dream was good while it lasted.

Mike
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (6-16, #4 on 12/10)
Post by: mef730 on December 12, 2016, 01:37:55 PM
ESPN has Jeremy Lin playing tonight on a minutes restriction. Lin's not the most talented guy in the world, but he's an upgrade from Isaiah Whitehead.

Even worse, they're playing Houston. True, Houston is a different team than it was last year, but those Nets victories still sting.

Mike
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (6-16, #4 on 12/10)
Post by: trickybilly on December 12, 2016, 10:21:14 PM
Ugh, Nets sticking around...

For a guy that is supposed to be injury nightmare, Lopez just keeps on trucking. He hit the deck hard and I thought that he was dead. NOPE, ran the length of the floor and nearly got a steal on the way back. And he's hitting threes like noones business
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (6-16, #4 on 12/10)
Post by: chambers on December 12, 2016, 10:25:41 PM
They are having trouble stopping Lopez, but the Rockets have blown a 12 point lead.

All tied up with with 1 minute left.
...

Make that Houston up 2 with one minute left. Thankyou Mr Harden.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (6-16, #4 on 12/10)
Post by: MattyIce on December 12, 2016, 10:28:21 PM
Ugh, Nets sticking around...

For a guy that is supposed to be injury nightmare, Lopez just keeps on trucking. He hit the deck hard and I thought that he was dead. NOPE, ran the length of the floor and nearly got a steal on the way back. And he's hitting threes like noones business
seriously trade him already
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (6-16, #4 on 12/10)
Post by: chambers on December 12, 2016, 10:29:55 PM
TREVOR ARIZA WITH THE BLOCK!

Thankyou Bball gods!
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (6-16, #4 on 12/10)
Post by: jpotter33 on December 12, 2016, 10:30:01 PM
Two missed free throws down the stretch lol

This is a perfect example of "playing down to the competition" lol
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (6-16, #4 on 12/10)
Post by: trickybilly on December 12, 2016, 10:31:06 PM
Refs killing the Nets...  :police: :police: :police: :police: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (6-16, #4 on 12/10)
Post by: SCeltic34 on December 12, 2016, 10:31:46 PM
Rockets have missed 13 free throws total.  Game shouldn't be this close.  But the Nets deserve credit, scoring 75 points in the 2nd half so far.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (6-16, #4 on 12/10)
Post by: jpotter33 on December 12, 2016, 10:33:53 PM
Well, if Houston can hold on this could be a really good night for the Brooklyn pick.

A Brooklyn loss is always good obviously.

Miami won, which pushes them a couple of wins above Brooklyn.

And Dallas is going to win their game against the Nuggets, which means that Brooklyn will be tied with three other teams for the least amount of wins in the NBA. And with two of those teams trending up right now (Dallas and Philly) and the other with significant young talent that should be winning more than they are (Minny), things are looking great for the pick!

EDIT: Sacramento also plays LAL tonight, so that's another automatic win for us. If Sacramento wins, that's another game they're up on the Nets. If Sacramento loses, it helps the "Boogie Watch" and also gives another win to LAL.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (6-16, #4 on 12/10)
Post by: SCeltic34 on December 12, 2016, 10:34:40 PM
I don't know what's worse -watching Houston slowly blow a 12 point lead to a garbage Nets team or listening to the Rockets announcers.  I'd probably go with the latter since Houston still ended up winning the game.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (6-16, #4 on 12/10)
Post by: Ilikesports17 on December 12, 2016, 10:37:41 PM
Brooklyn loses, Dallas wins, and Brooklyn is a half game out of the worst record in the NBA
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (6-16, #4 on 12/10)
Post by: mef730 on December 12, 2016, 10:40:06 PM
I was watching the Pats game on TV, the BKN game on my iPhone and my wife was carrying on a running conversation about, well, something. Not quite sure what. But there was potential for cardiac arrest.

Mike
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (6-16, #4 on 12/10)
Post by: Neurotic Guy on December 12, 2016, 10:40:13 PM
Brooklyn loses, Dallas wins, and Brooklyn is a half game out of the worst record in the NBA

Miami wins too.  Good night for the pick.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (6-16, #4 on 12/10)
Post by: mef730 on December 12, 2016, 10:48:50 PM
It was a good night for everyone except Cyrus Jones. TPs across the board (except to CJ).

Mike
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (6-16, #4 on 12/10)
Post by: mef730 on December 12, 2016, 10:50:55 PM
It was a good night for everyone except Cyrus Jones. TPs across the board (except to CJ).

Mike

And Matthew Slater.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (6-16, #4 on 12/10)
Post by: Royrebirth on December 12, 2016, 11:00:27 PM
Anyone else worried the Nets won't be too bad with Lin back? ....
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (6-16, #4 on 12/10)
Post by: Rondo9 on December 12, 2016, 11:04:40 PM
Anyone else worried the Nets won't be too bad with Lin back? ....

No.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (6-16, #4 on 12/10)
Post by: mef730 on December 12, 2016, 11:07:08 PM
Anyone else worried the Nets won't be too bad with Lin back? ....

Somewhat. Say what you will about JL, but he's a big step up from Whitehead.

Mike
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (6-16, #4 on 12/10)
Post by: fantankerous on December 12, 2016, 11:19:28 PM
The next three games will be huge for the Celtics' (Nets') draft pick.  All three against bottom feeders.  A 1-2 record would be fantastic.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (6-16, #4 on 12/10)
Post by: Bucketgetter on December 12, 2016, 11:37:04 PM
The next three games will be huge for the Celtics' (Nets') draft pick.  All three against bottom feeders.  A 1-2 record would be fantastic.
Or 0-3  ;D
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (6-16, #4 on 12/10)
Post by: jpotter33 on December 12, 2016, 11:47:05 PM
The next three games will be huge for the Celtics' (Nets') draft pick.  All three against bottom feeders.  A 1-2 record would be fantastic.
Or 0-3  ;D

The Lakers should beat them. They've been much better since getting healthy. And I'd say the Magic should beat them in Orlando, but you never know. The Sixers game is a toss-up, too.

But did you see the schedule after that?

@ Toronto
vs Golden State
@ Cleveland
vs Charlotte
@ Chicago
@ DC
vs Utah
@ Indiana
vs Cleveland

That's a rough 9 games.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (6-17, #4 on 12/12)
Post by: Redz on December 12, 2016, 11:56:14 PM
A half a game back from the top slot!
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (6-17, #4 on 12/12)
Post by: mef730 on December 13, 2016, 11:18:09 PM
Minnesota with the win!

Mike
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (6-17, #4 on 12/12)
Post by: jpotter33 on December 13, 2016, 11:28:48 PM
Minnesota with the win!

Mike

Phoenix tied with New York down the stretch, too!

Man, if Chandler's contract wasn't two more years after this season, I'd love him on the C's. Excellent defender and rebounder, and he perfectly fits the character of our team.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (6-17, #4 on 12/12)
Post by: csfansince60s on December 14, 2016, 12:04:05 AM
Suns win!
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (6-17, #4 on 12/12)
Post by: tarheelsxxiii on December 14, 2016, 12:24:32 AM
Minnesota with the win!

Mike

Phoenix tied with New York down the stretch, too!

Man, if Chandler's contract wasn't two more years after this season, I'd love him on the C's. Excellent defender and rebounder, and he perfectly fits the character of our team.

Wouldn't you take him at a reasonable price anyway?  Doubtful we're landing a big trade / contending anytime soon in the GS/CLE era.  That would make us ridiculously fun to watch and much more competitive, though. 
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (6-17, #4 on 12/12)
Post by: fantankerous on December 14, 2016, 12:45:46 AM
Minnesota with the win!

Mike

Phoenix tied with New York down the stretch, too!

Man, if Chandler's contract wasn't two more years after this season, I'd love him on the C's. Excellent defender and rebounder, and he perfectly fits the character of our team.

Wouldn't you take him at a reasonable price anyway? 

No.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (6-17, #4 on 12/12)
Post by: tarheelsxxiii on December 14, 2016, 12:55:00 AM
Minnesota with the win!

Mike

Phoenix tied with New York down the stretch, too!

Man, if Chandler's contract wasn't two more years after this season, I'd love him on the C's. Excellent defender and rebounder, and he perfectly fits the character of our team.

Wouldn't you take him at a reasonable price anyway? 

No.

To each their own.  Who would you target in trades?
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (6-17, #4 on 12/12)
Post by: trickybilly on December 14, 2016, 02:01:51 AM
This cheese smells like Fultz...
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (6-17, #4 on 12/12)
Post by: Somebody on December 14, 2016, 03:22:00 AM
I'd like Giles if his knees are good
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (6-17, #4 on 12/12)
Post by: chambers on December 14, 2016, 05:39:01 AM
What a great night for our pick.

Magic beat ATL
Wolves beat Chicago
Suns beat New York.

Woooohhooooo!

icing on the cake is if the Lakers can beat the Nets at home. Lakers will come in ready to play vs the Nets, they'll see them as a winnable game and Walton will be p---ed after his early ejection vs Sacto.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (6-17, #4 on 12/12)
Post by: Ed Hollison on December 14, 2016, 07:35:50 AM
Over the next 12 games, the Nets will play 7 on the road, During that stretch they'll play the Warriors, the Raptors, and the Cavs (twice).
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (6-17, #4 on 12/12)
Post by: liam on December 14, 2016, 04:09:51 PM
Go Lakers! ( but only tonight against The Nets!)
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (6-17, #4 on 12/12)
Post by: kraidstar on December 14, 2016, 04:33:15 PM
This game has me worried. Lakers are a lot worse than people realize. Their defense is truly horrific outside of Deng and Mozgov, they fooled a few teams early in the season but have recently been exposed.

The over/under is 228 lol. Gonna be a lot of points.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (6-17, #4 on 12/12)
Post by: Denis998 on December 14, 2016, 04:46:58 PM
This game has me worried. Lakers are a lot worse than people realize. Their defense is truly horrific outside of Deng and Mozgov, they fooled a few teams early in the season but have recently been exposed.

The over/under is 228 lol. Gonna be a lot of points.
their recent slump could also be attributed to their injury troubles.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (6-17, #4 on 12/12)
Post by: saltlover on December 14, 2016, 05:04:10 PM
This game has me worried. Lakers are a lot worse than people realize. Their defense is truly horrific outside of Deng and Mozgov, they fooled a few teams early in the season but have recently been exposed.

The over/under is 228 lol. Gonna be a lot of points.
their recent slump could also be attributed to their injury troubles.

It could, but it's more likely luck catching up with them.  Their point differential before the recent injuries was much closer to their current record than the near .500 team some supposed them to be.  I did the math a couple weeks ago and it predicted they should win 28 games on the year, and they're now on pace for 30.  These sorts of things even themselves out over the course of a season.

Still, I think the Lakers win tonight.  I also think the Nets finish the month with only 8 wins on the season.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (6-17, #4 on 12/12)
Post by: bdm860 on December 14, 2016, 05:19:00 PM
Still, I think the Lakers win tonight.  I also think the Nets finish the month with only 8 wins on the season.

Remember kids, this is the man who accurately predicted the Nets record at the end of November (http://forums.celticsblog.com/index.php?topic=87730.msg2195517#msg2195517), so you can take this to the bank.  ;)
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (6-17, #4 on 12/12)
Post by: moiso on December 14, 2016, 05:34:02 PM
This game has me worried. Lakers are a lot worse than people realize. Their defense is truly horrific outside of Deng and Mozgov, they fooled a few teams early in the season but have recently been exposed.

The over/under is 228 lol. Gonna be a lot of points.
their recent slump could also be attributed to their injury troubles.
Its not called a slump when you just suck.   Cleveland can go through a slump.  Golden State.  Even Boston.  Not the 2016/17 Lakers.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (6-17, #4 on 12/12)
Post by: Vox_Populi on December 14, 2016, 07:12:18 PM
No Lin.

Lakers have no excuse.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (6-17, #4 on 12/12)
Post by: Denis998 on December 14, 2016, 07:19:08 PM
This game has me worried. Lakers are a lot worse than people realize. Their defense is truly horrific outside of Deng and Mozgov, they fooled a few teams early in the season but have recently been exposed.

The over/under is 228 lol. Gonna be a lot of points.
their recent slump could also be attributed to their injury troubles.

It could, but it's more likely luck catching up with them.  Their point differential before the recent injuries was much closer to their current record than the near .500 team some supposed them to be.  I did the math a couple weeks ago and it predicted they should win 28 games on the year, and they're now on pace for 30.  These sorts of things even themselves out over the course of a season.

Still, I think the Lakers win tonight.  I also think the Nets finish the month with only 8 wins on the season.
I got the lakers winning as well, with a big game from Randell.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (6-17, #4 on 12/12)
Post by: Neurotic Guy on December 14, 2016, 07:45:24 PM
Go Lakers!

I can't bring myself to say it, so thanks for doing it for me!
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (6-17, #4 on 12/12)
Post by: Denis998 on December 14, 2016, 08:29:18 PM
Brooklyn has attempted 17 free throws thus far
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (6-17, #4 on 12/12)
Post by: Phantom255x on December 14, 2016, 08:53:00 PM
Bit Off Topic: If the Lakers lose this game as well.. then they would be in an 8 game losing streak and soon entering the bottom of the West (they are like 2.5 games out of the worst record in the West apparently, but also 2.5 games out of the 8 seed lol).

Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (6-17, #4 on 12/12)
Post by: SCeltic34 on December 14, 2016, 08:56:27 PM
If Walton is supposed to be a good coach, it's definitely not evident so far this game.  The Lakers offense looks ragged against the worst defense in the league.  The ball doesn't move and instead each Lakers player takes turns looking for their own shot.  The entire team has 3 assists in the first half.  Walton's also letting Ingram handle the ball, leading to a stagnant offense.

They look pretty bad on defense too.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (6-17, #4 on 12/12)
Post by: Denis998 on December 14, 2016, 09:04:49 PM
If Walton is supposed to be a good coach, it's definitely not evident so far this game.  The Lakers offense looks ragged against the worst defense in the league.  The ball doesn't move and instead each Lakers player takes turns looking for their own shot.  The entire team has 3 assists in the first half.  Walton's also letting Ingram handle the ball, leading to a stagnant offense.

They look pretty bad on defense too.
sounds quite like the warriors offense actually.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (6-17, #4 on 12/12)
Post by: SCeltic34 on December 14, 2016, 09:21:22 PM
If Walton is supposed to be a good coach, it's definitely not evident so far this game.  The Lakers offense looks ragged against the worst defense in the league.  The ball doesn't move and instead each Lakers player takes turns looking for their own shot.  The entire team has 3 assists in the first half.  Walton's also letting Ingram handle the ball, leading to a stagnant offense.

They look pretty bad on defense too.
sounds quite like the warriors offense actually.

Well, it's probably more acceptable if it's Curry, Durant, and Thompson taking those shots for themselves rather than Russell, Ingram, and Randle.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (6-17, #4 on 12/12)
Post by: Phantom255x on December 14, 2016, 09:22:19 PM
The Lakers are winning 70-66, yet this seems like a game the Nets will just hang around and win at the end. Hope I'm proven wrong here.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (6-17, #4 on 12/12)
Post by: guava_wrench on December 14, 2016, 09:23:04 PM
LA pulling ahead in 3rd. Looks like PHI will lose. DAL close so far.

If LA keeps it up, NJ stays .5 out of worst record in league. I would say the season is going quite well.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (6-17, #4 on 12/12)
Post by: guava_wrench on December 14, 2016, 09:23:44 PM
Good to see that the Nets have the league worst point differential.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (6-17, #4 on 12/12)
Post by: CelticsFanFromNYC on December 14, 2016, 09:28:51 PM
Nance Jr. just put Lopez on a poster. Literally may be dunk of the year..
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (6-17, #4 on 12/12)
Post by: Phantom255x on December 14, 2016, 09:37:05 PM
Lakers just can't put them away..
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (6-17, #4 on 12/12)
Post by: Phantom255x on December 14, 2016, 09:42:25 PM
6 minutes to go, Nets up 97-94.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (6-17, #4 on 12/12)
Post by: CelticsFanFromNYC on December 14, 2016, 09:42:37 PM
3 Lakers vs Kilpatrick right now smh.. Lakers defense is nonexistent
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (6-17, #4 on 12/12)
Post by: Denis998 on December 14, 2016, 09:47:40 PM
Im convinced, the Lakers sure to suck.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (6-17, #4 on 12/12)
Post by: Phantom255x on December 14, 2016, 09:48:02 PM
Nets score 5 straight and now lead 102-94... Ugly from the Lakers
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (6-17, #4 on 12/12)
Post by: jpotter33 on December 14, 2016, 09:58:35 PM
Of course the Lakers let us down. Terrible.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (6-17, #4 on 12/12)
Post by: jpotter33 on December 14, 2016, 10:51:57 PM
Well, at least Dallas and Miami both won again to help offset this Brooklyn win a bit.

EDIT: Okay, I lied about Dallas. lol I looked at the wrong score.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (6-17, #4 on 12/12)
Post by: mef730 on December 15, 2016, 08:47:26 AM
I'm going to say something uncharacteristically optimistic: Even after the Lakers game, they are still the 4th worst team in the league and at least two of the three teams behind them are on the upswing. In addition, after a couple of easier road games, their schedule for the rest of December is a disaster. And oh, by the way, if you think December looks tough for them, take a peek at their January schedule.

They're gonna win a couple games over the next several weeks that they should lose, but so will the teams behind them. I'm hoping that, by the end of January, they will be solidly in the bottom 2.

Mike
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (6-17, #4 on 12/12)
Post by: SHAQATTACK on December 15, 2016, 08:53:57 AM
Lakers are fools gold.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (6-17, #4 on 12/12)
Post by: TrueFan on December 15, 2016, 08:58:50 AM
The back end of this month's schedule can't come fast enough. The Nets should lose most of those games.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (6-17, #4 on 12/12)
Post by: TrueFan on December 15, 2016, 09:00:13 AM
If we keep losing more games the Nets fans are going to start a season watch thread for the Cs. We are getting pretty close to lottery status. 
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (7-17, #4 on 12/15)
Post by: trickybilly on December 16, 2016, 09:31:44 PM
Evan Fournier goes on the Christmas card list. Good win by La Magia
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (7-17, #4 on 12/15)
Post by: csfansince60s on December 16, 2016, 09:38:18 PM
Thank you, Magic.

Nets lose.

Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (7-17, #4 on 12/15)
Post by: mef730 on December 16, 2016, 09:38:36 PM
Nice win by Magic. Good thing, too. I wasn't looking forward to telling the kids that we were cancelling the trip to Disney World.

Mike
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (7-17, #4 on 12/15)
Post by: Quetzalcoatl on December 16, 2016, 09:55:31 PM
Nice win by Magic. Good thing, too. I wasn't looking forward to telling the kids that we were cancelling the trip to Disney World.

Mike

Lol TP
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (7-17, #4 on 12/15)
Post by: SCeltic34 on December 16, 2016, 10:03:26 PM
Very important loss for the Nets for sure, seeing as how they play Philly next.  Their schedule gets pretty brutal after that though for the rest of December and early January.

Golden State
at Cleveland
Charlotte
at Chicago
at Washington
Utah
at Indiana
Cleveland
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (7-17, #4 on 12/15)
Post by: SHAQATTACK on December 16, 2016, 10:09:32 PM
Very important loss for the Nets for sure, seeing as how they play Philly next.  Their schedule gets pretty brutal after that though for the rest of December and early January.

Golden State
at Cleveland
Charlotte
at Chicago
at Washington
Utah
at Indiana
Cleveland

Ol be po ' d if some of these teams REST their better stars agaisnt NETS ...it's just our luck ...remember Doc rested Blake and Nets prevailed,......this,could,happen if stars sit out games.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (7-17, #4 on 12/15)
Post by: SCeltic34 on December 16, 2016, 10:24:50 PM
Very important loss for the Nets for sure, seeing as how they play Philly next.  Their schedule gets pretty brutal after that though for the rest of December and early January.

Golden State
at Cleveland
Charlotte
at Chicago
at Washington
Utah
at Indiana
Cleveland

Ol be po ' d if some of these teams REST their better stars agaisnt NETS ...it's just our luck ...remember Doc rested Blake and Nets prevailed,......this,could,happen if stars sit out games.

It's definitely something to be concerned about if the better teams end up having the Nets on the 2nd night of a back to back. 

But I'm banking on the Nets shutting down Lopez towards the end of the season just like they did last year, which basically reduces the Nets chance of winning games against decent teams to nil.  No reason to risk his health in irrelevant games.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (6-17, #4 on 12/12)
Post by: celticsclay on December 16, 2016, 11:26:13 PM
If we keep losing more games the Nets fans are going to start a season watch thread for the Cs. We are getting pretty close to lottery status.

Come on
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (6-17, #4 on 12/12)
Post by: hwangjini_1 on December 16, 2016, 11:31:11 PM
If we keep losing more games the Nets fans are going to start a season watch thread for the Cs. We are getting pretty close to lottery status.

Come on
agreed. and such a comment from someone with the blog name of TrueFan?  ::)
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (7-18, #3 on 12/16)
Post by: csfansince60s on December 18, 2016, 08:35:31 PM
Thank you, 6'ers.

Unexpected win/loss!

Yahoo!!!
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (7-18, #3 on 12/16)
Post by: Vox_Populi on December 18, 2016, 08:36:16 PM
Say it with me: Trust the process.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (7-18, #3 on 12/16)
Post by: Neurotic Guy on December 18, 2016, 08:37:12 PM
Thank you, 6'ers.

Unexpected win/loss!

Yahoo!!!

Sixers and Mavs win. Nets lose. Good day for thr pick.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (7-18, #3 on 12/16)
Post by: JSD on December 18, 2016, 08:38:00 PM
Big 1 point win tonight by the 76ers over the Nets, 108-107.

J. Okafor 0/10


http://cdn.espn.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=400899850
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (7-18, #3 on 12/16)
Post by: Spicoli on December 18, 2016, 08:41:36 PM
This was my first time watching a full Sixers game. My takeaways:

Embiid is a superstar/franchise player if he stays healthy. Literally no weaknesses in his game whatsoever.

Okafor is a relic. He's afraid to do anything other than put his back to the basket, and he's not even really good at that.

Their backcourt is the worst i've probably ever seen. McConnell and Rodriguez are not NBA players.

Once they get Simmons back, and draft a top flight point guard they are going to be very entertaining.

Good win Sixers.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (7-18, #3 on 12/16)
Post by: mef730 on December 18, 2016, 08:41:37 PM
Big 1 point win tonight by the 76ers over the Nets, 108-107.

J. Okafor 0/10


http://cdn.espn.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=400899850

Definitely not a Celtics target. Sure, he can't score, which we love, but where is the defense and grittiness?

Mike
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (7-18, #3 on 12/16)
Post by: csfansince60s on December 18, 2016, 08:41:43 PM
Noel DNP-CD.

Hurt or on the move?
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (7-18, #3 on 12/16)
Post by: Adelaide Celt on December 18, 2016, 08:42:34 PM
Had a good feeling about Philly. Even last season they split the series 2-2 against Brooklyn.

76ers and Miami are the only 2 teams I'm concerned about in the East.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (7-18, #3 on 12/16)
Post by: max215 on December 18, 2016, 08:43:25 PM
Noel DNP-CD.

Hurt or on the move?

Out of the rotation for "the foreseeable future." That's directly from Brett Brown.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (7-18, #3 on 12/16)
Post by: Denis998 on December 18, 2016, 08:44:23 PM
Noel DNP-CD.

Hurt or on the move?
DNP-CD. Their coach said that the only way he would get on the court today is if one of their bigs gets in foul trouble.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (7-18, #3 on 12/16)
Post by: SHAQATTACK on December 18, 2016, 08:45:01 PM
Noel DNP-CD.

Hurt or on the move?

Out of the rotation for "the foreseeable future." That's directly from Brett Brown.

Into CBS lineup .....coming to your TV screen soon
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (7-18, #3 on 12/16)
Post by: hwangjini_1 on December 18, 2016, 08:45:21 PM
Noel DNP-CD.

Hurt or on the move?
DNP-CD. Their coach said that the only way he would get on the court today is if one of their bigs gets in foul trouble.
quite the process they have there in philly isnt it?  ;D
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (7-18, #3 on 12/16)
Post by: Denis998 on December 18, 2016, 08:47:53 PM
Noel DNP-CD.

Hurt or on the move?
DNP-CD. Their coach said that the only way he would get on the court today is if one of their bigs gets in foul trouble.
quite the process they have there in philly isnt it?  ;D
I kinda feel bad for Noel. :(
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (7-18, #3 on 12/16)
Post by: max215 on December 18, 2016, 08:50:52 PM
Noel DNP-CD.

Hurt or on the move?
DNP-CD. Their coach said that the only way he would get on the court today is if one of their bigs gets in foul trouble.
quite the process they have there in philly isnt it?  ;D
I kinda feel bad for Noel. :(

Absolutely. He seems to have a bad attitude, but Philly has likely cost him a ton of money.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (7-18, #3 on 12/16)
Post by: hwangjini_1 on December 18, 2016, 08:58:57 PM
not completely appropriate for a nets thread, but dallas won as well tonight. so, the woeful nets are 0.5 games out of dead last in the nba right now. only one lose behind philly and dallas.  ;D
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (7-18, #3 on 12/16)
Post by: jpotter33 on December 18, 2016, 09:46:44 PM
not completely appropriate for a nets thread, but dallas won as well tonight. so, the woeful nets are 0.5 games out of dead last in the nba right now. only one lose behind philly and dallas.  ;D

Further, they beat the Kings, which is always good for the Boogie Watch.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (7-18, #3 on 12/16)
Post by: trickybilly on December 18, 2016, 09:58:17 PM
not completely appropriate for a nets thread, but dallas won as well tonight. so, the woeful nets are 0.5 games out of dead last in the nba right now. only one lose behind philly and dallas.  ;D

Further, they beat the Kings, which is always good for the Boogie Watch.
(http://pre08.deviantart.net/eaa2/th/pre/f/2016/129/f/b/fb8c70406552081fdf3cecd01b6fa364-da1v82u.jpg)
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (7-18, #3 on 12/16)
Post by: mef730 on December 18, 2016, 10:03:24 PM
not completely appropriate for a nets thread, but dallas won as well tonight. so, the woeful nets are 0.5 games out of dead last in the nba right now. only one lose behind philly and dallas.  ;D

I find that post entirely appropriate for this thread, given its relevance to the draft pick. I have awarded you one Tommy Point for your efforts.

Mike
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (7-19, #3 on 12/18)
Post by: The One on December 19, 2016, 03:30:12 PM
Marc Stein has them dead last on his power rankings. :laugh:

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/18304976/nba-power-rankings-marc-stein-week-9-rankings



Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (7-19, #3 on 12/18)
Post by: mef730 on December 19, 2016, 03:59:17 PM
Marc Stein has them dead last on his power rankings. :laugh:

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/18304976/nba-power-rankings-marc-stein-week-9-rankings

TP, beat me to it.

And now, I am going to write a letter to myself:

Dear Mike,

The Nets are almost at the bottom of the pile. The rest of their games this month are at Toronto, at Cleveland, at Chicago, at Washington, with home games against Golden State and Charlotte (not necessarily in that order). According to Chris Forberg, the Nets are favored to win exactly once in the next 44 games (no idea what the last 12 look like, but I would assume that Lopez will be on the bench for many of them). It looks fantastic.

But understand this: games don't always go as expected. The Nets will not go 1-43. In fact, they probably won't go 0-6 through the end of December. Math just isn't that easy. So when the Bulls blow a close game in a week or NO benches Anthony Davis when the Pels are in town, it's okay. You don't have to get on CB and rant about Rajon Rondo and his 14 turnovers against Jeremy Lin, or scream at the Pelicans because they can't hit free throws. Remember, math works the same for all the other teams, too. Dallas, Philly and even Phoenix will also win games that they aren't supposed to. So enjoy the next few week and revel in the knowledge that Brooklyn still sucks.

Yours truly,
Mike
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (7-19, #3 on 12/18)
Post by: The One on December 19, 2016, 07:04:43 PM
Marc Stein has them dead last on his power rankings. :laugh:

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/18304976/nba-power-rankings-marc-stein-week-9-rankings

TP, beat me to it.

And now, I am going to write a letter to myself:

Dear Mike,

The Nets are almost at the bottom of the pile. The rest of their games this month are at Toronto, at Cleveland, at Chicago, at Washington, with home games against Golden State and Charlotte (not necessarily in that order). According to Chris Forberg, the Nets are favored to win exactly once in the next 44 games (no idea what the last 12 look like, but I would assume that Lopez will be on the bench for many of them). It looks fantastic.

But understand this: games don't always go as expected. The Nets will not go 1-43. In fact, they probably won't go 0-6 through the end of December. Math just isn't that easy. So when the Bulls blow a close game in a week or NO benches Anthony Davis when the Pels are in town, it's okay. You don't have to get on CB and rant about Rajon Rondo and his 14 turnovers against Jeremy Lin, or scream at the Pelicans because they can't hit free throws. Remember, math works the same for all the other teams, too. Dallas, Philly and even Phoenix will also win games that they aren't supposed to. So enjoy the next few week and revel in the knowledge that Brooklyn still sucks.

Yours truly,
Mike


Love that letter!  TP!!!
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (7-18, #3 on 12/16)
Post by: RAAAAAAAANDY on December 19, 2016, 10:25:42 PM
Had a good feeling about Philly. Even last season they split the series 2-2 against Brooklyn.

76ers and Miami are the only 2 teams I'm concerned about in the East.

If Philly can unload a big and de-conflict the two bigs by the time Simmons gets back there isn't a chance they finish behind Brooklyn.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (7-18, #3 on 12/16)
Post by: max215 on December 19, 2016, 10:44:36 PM
Had a good feeling about Philly. Even last season they split the series 2-2 against Brooklyn.

76ers and Miami are the only 2 teams I'm concerned about in the East.

If Philly can unload a big and de-conflict the two bigs by the time Simmons gets back there isn't a chance they finish behind Brooklyn.

Yep. Simmons-Embiid should be enough to keep them firmly ahead of Brooklyn. Furthermore, if Lopez gets moved, Brooklyn will comfortably be the worst team in the league.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (7-18, #3 on 12/16)
Post by: mef730 on December 20, 2016, 09:59:48 AM
Had a good feeling about Philly. Even last season they split the series 2-2 against Brooklyn.

76ers and Miami are the only 2 teams I'm concerned about in the East.

If Philly can unload a big and de-conflict the two bigs by the time Simmons gets back there isn't a chance they finish behind Brooklyn.

Question: Does Philly bring Simmons back even if he's healthy? If I'm them, I'm thinking, "Hmm, no reason to take any chances with this guy. Let him sit and we can have one final year of massive suckage in a draft with some pretty nice guards at the top."

Mike
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (7-18, #3 on 12/16)
Post by: trickybilly on December 20, 2016, 10:04:51 AM
Had a good feeling about Philly. Even last season they split the series 2-2 against Brooklyn.

76ers and Miami are the only 2 teams I'm concerned about in the East.

If Philly can unload a big and de-conflict the two bigs by the time Simmons gets back there isn't a chance they finish behind Brooklyn.

Question: Does Philly bring Simmons back even if he's healthy? If I'm them, I'm thinking, "Hmm, no reason to take any chances with this guy. Let him sit and we can have one final year of massive suckage in a draft with some pretty nice guards at the top."

Mike

In for a penny in for a pound as they say...
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (7-18, #3 on 12/16)
Post by: tazzmaniac on December 20, 2016, 10:26:08 AM
Had a good feeling about Philly. Even last season they split the series 2-2 against Brooklyn.

76ers and Miami are the only 2 teams I'm concerned about in the East.

If Philly can unload a big and de-conflict the two bigs by the time Simmons gets back there isn't a chance they finish behind Brooklyn.

Question: Does Philly bring Simmons back even if he's healthy? If I'm them, I'm thinking, "Hmm, no reason to take any chances with this guy. Let him sit and we can have one final year of massive suckage in a draft with some pretty nice guards at the top."

Mike
They're going to be careful with Simmons recovery but I'd expect to see him playing by February.  I would expect them to manage his playing very carefully like they are with Embiid.
At worst they should end up with two top 10 picks but one of them will probably still be top 5. 

But they need to see what Simmons brings to the table in NBA games.  How well can he run their half court offense?  How good/bad is his jump shooting?  What positions can he defend?  Which teammates does he work best with?  It will affect who they draft or otherwise acquire and who they keep around.  Most importantly they need Simmons and Embiid to get acclimated with playing together.   They want to start next season off with a better team around Simmons and Embiid so that they can start the season with a realistic shot at the playoffs. 
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (7-19, #3 on 12/18)
Post by: mef730 on December 20, 2016, 08:12:35 PM
Lopez out tonight. Put this one on the "trap game" list (healthy scratch).

Mike
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (7-19, #3 on 12/18)
Post by: Adelaide Celt on December 21, 2016, 01:26:01 AM
Can't let a Brooklyn loss pass by without a regulation 'Yay Brooklyn lost' post!  :)

Back to back games against Golden State and Cleveland to come, oh joy.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (7-19, #3 on 12/18)
Post by: ImShakHeIsShaq on December 21, 2016, 01:44:51 AM
i hope we don't end up #1 odds, it got #1 last season but it's not happening this season. 2-3 is fine though.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (7-19, #3 on 12/18)
Post by: Ilikesports17 on December 21, 2016, 02:38:16 AM
i hope we don't end up #1 odds, it got #1 last season but it's not happening this season. 2-3 is fine though.
lol you realize this doesnt make any sense right?
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (7-19, #3 on 12/18)
Post by: ImShakHeIsShaq on December 21, 2016, 03:06:06 AM
i hope we don't end up #1 odds, it got #1 last season but it's not happening this season. 2-3 is fine though.
lol you realize this doesnt make any sense right?

6ers had #1 odds last season and got the #1 pick but the #1 odds doesn't always get the 1st pick. It would be just our luck to be the worst team (BKN) and end up picking 3rd.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (7-19, #3 on 12/18)
Post by: Ilikesports17 on December 21, 2016, 03:09:38 AM
i hope we don't end up #1 odds, it got #1 last season but it's not happening this season. 2-3 is fine though.
lol you realize this doesnt make any sense right?

6ers had #1 odds last season and got the #1 pick but the #1 odds doesn't always get the 1st pick. It would be just our luck to be the worst team (BKN) and end up picking 3rd.
No the #1 odds doesnt always get  the first pick. It gets it 25% of the time. which is more of the time than any other slot.

it still doesnt make any [dang] sense.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (7-19, #3 on 12/18)
Post by: Quetzalcoatl on December 21, 2016, 03:15:53 AM
i hope we don't end up #1 odds, it got #1 last season but it's not happening this season. 2-3 is fine though.

There is a city called Las Vegas that only exists because you believe this
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (7-19, #3 on 12/18)
Post by: ImShakHeIsShaq on December 21, 2016, 03:58:45 AM
i hope we don't end up #1 odds, it got #1 last season but it's not happening this season. 2-3 is fine though.

There is a city called Las Vegas that only exists because you believe this


W/e.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (7-20, #3 on 12/20)
Post by: mef730 on December 21, 2016, 11:20:26 AM
I'll bet that the Celtics don't get the #1 pick. And for anyone who wants to take the bet that they do get the #1 slot, I'll give you 2-1 odds.

;)

Mike
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (7-20, #3 on 12/20)
Post by: Big333223 on December 21, 2016, 05:48:52 PM
I've been living in NY for a few years now and my high school buddies from Maine just gave me my wedding present. The two of them, my wife, and I will be going to the Celtics/Nets game in Brooklyn on March 17. Should be fun.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (7-20, #3 on 12/20)
Post by: Bostoncelticsforlife7 on December 22, 2016, 12:37:11 AM
Thank you Lillard for missing the game winner, we now have the second most ping pong balls :D
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (7-20, #3 on 12/20)
Post by: hwangjini_1 on December 22, 2016, 12:39:28 AM
I'll bet that the Celtics don't get the #1 pick. And for anyone who wants to take the bet that they do get the #1 slot, I'll give you 2-1 odds.

;)

Mike
Done and accepted. The terms? A tp to you, but two tps back to me. Gosh, such high stakes make me giddy!  ;D
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (7-20, #3 on 12/20)
Post by: Vox_Populi on December 22, 2016, 12:45:36 AM
That Dallas vs. Portland game was one of the worst I've ever seen this season.

Great result though.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (7-20, #3 on 12/20)
Post by: Somebody on December 22, 2016, 03:05:03 AM
Really hoping that this pick yields us a real franchise altering talent to go with jaylen (like Giles,Fultz,Jackson,Ball,etc)
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (7-20, #3 on 12/20)
Post by: Adelaide Celt on December 22, 2016, 06:54:06 PM
Not taking today's game for granted after the undue stress Golden State put us through last season.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (7-20, #3 on 12/20)
Post by: mef730 on December 22, 2016, 08:10:46 PM
I'll bet that the Celtics don't get the #1 pick. And for anyone who wants to take the bet that they do get the #1 slot, I'll give you 2-1 odds.

;)

Mike
Done and accepted. The terms? A tp to you, but two tps back to me. Gosh, such high stakes make me giddy!  ;D

As the Olsen twins used to say, you got it dude. :)

Mike
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (7-20, #3 on 12/20)
Post by: mef730 on December 22, 2016, 08:11:51 PM
Not taking today's game for granted after the undue stress Golden State put us through last season.

[dang] Draymond Green, having to go home for the birth of his kid. First Horford, now Green, costing us game time. There's simply too much sex in the NBA.

Mike
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (7-20, #3 on 12/20)
Post by: trickybilly on December 22, 2016, 08:16:03 PM
sorry to bother but WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON IN BROOKLYN
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (7-20, #3 on 12/20)
Post by: tarheelsxxiii on December 22, 2016, 08:16:26 PM
I'll bet that the Celtics don't get the #1 pick. And for anyone who wants to take the bet that they do get the #1 slot, I'll give you 2-1 odds.

;)

Mike
Done and accepted. The terms? A tp to you, but two tps back to me. Gosh, such high stakes make me giddy!  ;D

As the Olsen twins used to say, you got it dude. :)

Mike

How rude...
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (7-20, #3 on 12/20)
Post by: jpotter33 on December 22, 2016, 08:22:43 PM
KD trying to screw the C's over again by having the Warriors throw the game against the Nets.  >:(
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (7-20, #3 on 12/20)
Post by: Vox_Populi on December 22, 2016, 08:23:38 PM
As long as the Warriors don't go down by 30, they can win.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (7-20, #3 on 12/20)
Post by: mef730 on December 22, 2016, 08:47:37 PM
Rats, I knew the Nets would win a few along the way. Just didn't think that this one would be one of them.

Mike
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (7-20, #3 on 12/20)
Post by: apc on December 22, 2016, 08:48:47 PM
Did Crowder give the Nets the blueprints?
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (7-20, #3 on 12/20)
Post by: Denis998 on December 22, 2016, 08:50:24 PM
There is surly no way the nets can beat GSW, Right?! Right?...
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (7-20, #3 on 12/20)
Post by: mef730 on December 22, 2016, 08:55:30 PM
There is surly no way the nets can beat GSW, Right?! Right?...

Alas, any given Thursday...

The Nets took GS into overtime last year in Oakland. I don't know what the mental block for the Warriors is. BKN can't shoot 50% from 3 forever, but it only needs to last for another 24 minutes.

Mike
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (7-20, #3 on 12/20)
Post by: danglertx on December 22, 2016, 09:33:50 PM
Sanity has been restored, GSW are pulling away.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (7-20, #3 on 12/20)
Post by: Neurotic Guy on December 22, 2016, 09:40:11 PM
Minutes away from being tied for most ping-pong balls.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (7-20, #3 on 12/20)
Post by: SCeltic34 on December 22, 2016, 09:41:03 PM
With the quantity of 3's the Nets take, they're bound to have huge quarters or halves here and there.  65 points in the 1st half, but only 31 in the 2nd half with 3 minutes left to go in the game.  Just gotta remember that it's an aberration and that they're not a good team on either end of the floor.  While it seemed questionable that Golden State would win, we all knew that Brooklyn wasn't going to sustain a 16+ point lead against the best team in the league, Draymond Green or not.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (7-20, #3 on 12/20)
Post by: mef730 on December 22, 2016, 09:49:21 PM
Bowed out at halftime when it was a 16-point deficit. Apparently, I didn't miss anything. Still 16 points.

:D

Mike
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (7-20, #3 on 12/20)
Post by: liam on December 22, 2016, 09:57:51 PM
It's really possible that Philly puts together a string of wins at some point this year. We have a very good chance for that # 1 pick. The Nets are the worst team in the NBA.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (7-20, #3 on 12/20)
Post by: mef730 on December 22, 2016, 10:01:47 PM
Now we know why the Nets take so many 3-pointers...

https://www.fatwallet.com/forums/free-stuff/1540054

And Phoenix at Philly tomorrow night. No matter who loses, we win!

Mike

Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (7-20, #3 on 12/20)
Post by: SHAQATTACK on December 22, 2016, 10:07:32 PM
Now we know why the Nets take so many 3-pointers...

https://www.fatwallet.com/forums/free-stuff/1540054

And Phoenix at Philly tomorrow night. No matter who loses, we win!

Mike

Biggest Tank Battle since WWII
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (7-20, #3 on 12/20)
Post by: Bucketgetter on December 22, 2016, 10:10:52 PM
It's really possible that Philly puts together a string of wins at some point this year. We have a very good chance for that # 1 pick. The Nets are the worst team in the NBA.
A very good chance for the best odds for the #1 pick... Not the actual #1 pick. The nets could lose every game from here on out, and we would still only have a 25% chance of getting the #1 pick.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (7-20, #3 on 12/20)
Post by: hwangjini_1 on December 22, 2016, 10:13:03 PM
It's really possible that Philly puts together a string of wins at some point this year. We have a very good chance for that # 1 pick. The Nets are the worst team in the NBA.
A very good chance for the best odds for the #1 pick... Not the actual #1 pick. The nets could lose every game from here on out, and we would still only have a 25% chance of getting the #1 pick.
which would constitute a pretty good chance in the context of what other teams would have.

for me, i am seeing the nets pick as a sure top 5, maybe top 3. i am satisfied with that, and with having an encore performance next year as well.

god, but this is fun.  ;D
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (7-20, #3 on 12/20)
Post by: hpantazo on December 22, 2016, 10:13:32 PM
It's really possible that Philly puts together a string of wins at some point this year. We have a very good chance for that # 1 pick. The Nets are the worst team in the NBA.
A very good chance for the best odds for the #1 pick... Not the actual #1 pick. The nets could lose every game from here on out, and we would still only have a 25% chance of getting the #1 pick.

A top 3 pick in this upcoming draft is as good as the #1 pick in most of the other recent drafts. If the Nets keep up this pace we are golden.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (7-20, #3 on 12/20)
Post by: Adelaide Celt on December 22, 2016, 11:56:47 PM
Had a strange feeling about this game, hence the 'not taking it for granted' post. Glad I missed it because I would've been very annoyed at half time.

No messing around tomorrow Cleveland. Just do your job thanks.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (7-20, #3 on 12/20)
Post by: jpotter33 on December 23, 2016, 12:08:32 AM
Had a strange feeling about this game, hence the 'not taking it for granted' post. Glad I missed it because I would've been very annoyed at half time.

No messing around tomorrow Cleveland. Just do your job thanks.

Lot of potential tomorrow for the pick:

Nets at Cavs - This is almost assuredly a loss and a win for us.

Philly at Phoenix - This is a win either way since these two teams are sandwiched around Brooklyn in the standings, though a Philly win would put the Nets at sole possession of last place for the first time.

Dallas at LAC - This is a likely loss for Dallas, but LAC is without Blake and will be on the second night of a back to back. So a potential opportunity for Dallas to provide some more separation between them and Brooklyn.

Kings at Timberwolves - The Kings are on a roll right now, but hopefully Minny can put a stop on that and provide further separation from Brooklyn, along with hurting Sacramento's playoff potential for the Boogie Watch.

Could be a pretty good night for the pick.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (7-20, #3 on 12/20)
Post by: tarheelsxxiii on December 23, 2016, 02:20:38 AM
^ TP for the info, looking forward to tomorrow night.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (7-20, #3 on 12/20)
Post by: jpotter33 on December 23, 2016, 03:08:38 AM
Had a strange feeling about this game, hence the 'not taking it for granted' post. Glad I missed it because I would've been very annoyed at half time.

No messing around tomorrow Cleveland. Just do your job thanks.

Lot of potential tomorrow for the pick:

Nets at Cavs - This is almost assuredly a loss and a win for us.

Philly at Phoenix - This is a win either way since these two teams are sandwiched around Brooklyn in the standings, though a Philly win would put the Nets at sole possession of last place for the first time.

Dallas at LAC - This is a likely loss for Dallas, but LAC is without Blake and will be on the second night of a back to back. So a potential opportunity for Dallas to provide some more separation between them and Brooklyn.

Kings at Timberwolves - The Kings are on a roll right now, but hopefully Minny can put a stop on that and provide further separation from Brooklyn, along with hurting Sacramento's playoff potential for the Boogie Watch.

Could be a pretty good night for the pick.

Regarding the Dallas at LAC game, Chris Paul left tonight's game with a strained hamstring, so it'd doubtful that he'll play tomorrow night. Dallas could really take that game and gain more ground.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (7-20, #3 on 12/20)
Post by: MattyIce on December 23, 2016, 03:10:45 AM
Had a strange feeling about this game, hence the 'not taking it for granted' post. Glad I missed it because I would've been very annoyed at half time.

No messing around tomorrow Cleveland. Just do your job thanks.

Lot of potential tomorrow for the pick:

Nets at Cavs - This is almost assuredly a loss and a win for us.

Philly at Phoenix - This is a win either way since these two teams are sandwiched around Brooklyn in the standings, though a Philly win would put the Nets at sole possession of last place for the first time.

Dallas at LAC - This is a likely loss for Dallas, but LAC is without Blake and will be on the second night of a back to back. So a potential opportunity for Dallas to provide some more separation between them and Brooklyn.

Kings at Timberwolves - The Kings are on a roll right now, but hopefully Minny can put a stop on that and provide further separation from Brooklyn, along with hurting Sacramento's playoff potential for the Boogie Watch.

Could be a pretty good night for the pick.

don't forget MIA at NOP, win/win (both at 10)
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (7-20, #3 on 12/20)
Post by: bopna on December 23, 2016, 04:20:43 AM
Had a strange feeling about this game, hence the 'not taking it for granted' post. Glad I missed it because I would've been very annoyed at half time.

No messing around tomorrow Cleveland. Just do your job thanks.

Lot of potential tomorrow for the pick:

Nets at Cavs - This is almost assuredly a loss and a win for us.

Philly at Phoenix - This is a win either way since these two teams are sandwiched around Brooklyn in the standings, though a Philly win would put the Nets at sole possession of last place for the first time.

Dallas at LAC - This is a likely loss for Dallas, but LAC is without Blake and will be on the second night of a back to back. So a potential opportunity for Dallas to provide some more separation between them and Brooklyn.

Kings at Timberwolves - The Kings are on a roll right now, but hopefully Minny can put a stop on that and provide further separation from Brooklyn, along with hurting Sacramento's playoff potential for the Boogie Watch.

Could be a pretty good night for the pick.

Regarding the Dallas at LAC game, Chris Paul left tonight's game with a strained hamstring, so it'd doubtful that he'll play tomorrow night. Dallas could really take that game and gain more ground.
Clippers without CP and Blake are gonna freefall. Theyd have enough cushion though as the only have 8 losses.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (7-20, #3 on 12/20)
Post by: SuddenFame on December 23, 2016, 04:44:35 AM

Biggest Tank Battle since WWII

TP for mic drop one-liner
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (7-21, #1 on 12/22)
Post by: Redz on December 23, 2016, 09:16:30 AM
I've been editing the thread title to reflect current record and standings.  This morning's update was extra enjoyable. 
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (7-21, #1 on 12/22)
Post by: GratefulCs on December 23, 2016, 09:19:09 AM
I've been editing the thread title to reflect current record and standings.  This morning's update was extra enjoyable.
TP for the edits!
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (7-21, #1 on 12/22)
Post by: Redz on December 23, 2016, 09:21:46 AM
I've been editing the thread title to reflect current record and standings.  This morning's update was extra enjoyable.
TP for the edits!

Thanks.  The joy of the Nets sucking is its own reward.  My cup runneth over!
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (7-21, #1 on 12/22)
Post by: CelticGuardian on December 23, 2016, 09:28:22 AM
Thank god for superteams, amirite?  ;)

Kevin Durant is brave, yo.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (7-20, #3 on 12/20)
Post by: GreenShooter on December 23, 2016, 11:44:05 AM
Had a strange feeling about this game, hence the 'not taking it for granted' post. Glad I missed it because I would've been very annoyed at half time.

No messing around tomorrow Cleveland. Just do your job thanks.

Lot of potential tomorrow for the pick:

Nets at Cavs - This is almost assuredly a loss and a win for us.

Philly at Phoenix - This is a win either way since these two teams are sandwiched around Brooklyn in the standings, though a Philly win would put the Nets at sole possession of last place for the first time.

Dallas at LAC - This is a likely loss for Dallas, but LAC is without Blake and will be on the second night of a back to back. So a potential opportunity for Dallas to provide some more separation between them and Brooklyn.

Kings at Timberwolves - The Kings are on a roll right now, but hopefully Minny can put a stop on that and provide further separation from Brooklyn, along with hurting Sacramento's playoff potential for the Boogie Watch.

Could be a pretty good night for the pick.

Regarding the Dallas at LAC game, Chris Paul left tonight's game with a strained hamstring, so it'd doubtful that he'll play tomorrow night. Dallas could really take that game and gain more ground.
The betting line for the LAC/Dallas just came out at LAC -6 & CP is listed as ? Dallas still has a chance though, I think.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (7-21, #1 on 12/22)
Post by: max215 on December 23, 2016, 07:01:29 PM
Dirk returns for the Mavs tonight. If he can stay healthy, they should be able to distance themselves from Brooklyn.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (7-21, #1 on 12/22)
Post by: Phantom255x on December 23, 2016, 08:20:51 PM
Lakers are down 57-40 to the Magic and they lost to the Nets a week ago...

Something tells me they could start tanking in the near future. Ugh.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (7-21, #1 on 12/22)
Post by: SHAQATTACK on December 23, 2016, 08:23:17 PM
Cavs with Christmas present , handing Boston Nets loss ......or sure thing blow out on the way
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (7-21, #1 on 12/22)
Post by: SHAQATTACK on December 23, 2016, 08:27:33 PM
Bad
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (7-21, #1 on 12/22)
Post by: SHAQATTACK on December 23, 2016, 08:29:31 PM
bad
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (7-21, #1 on 12/22)
Post by: Neurotic Guy on December 23, 2016, 08:31:07 PM
Lakers are down 57-40 to the Magic and they lost to the Nets a week ago...

Something tells me they could start tanking in the near future. Ugh.

Lord I hate them.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (7-21, #1 on 12/22)
Post by: Phantom255x on December 23, 2016, 08:40:32 PM
Lakers are down 57-40 to the Magic and they lost to the Nets a week ago...

Something tells me they could start tanking in the near future. Ugh.

Lord I hate them.

We all do. Amazing how they go from "potential 6th seed" to potential last place team in the west (Mavs catching up to them).
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (7-21, #1 on 12/22)
Post by: hpantazo on December 23, 2016, 09:04:12 PM
Wow, the Cavs are showing no mercy against the Nets.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (7-21, #1 on 12/22)
Post by: Phantom255x on December 23, 2016, 09:13:15 PM
It's hilarious when people say the Nets are tanking... but we have their pick essentially  :laugh:
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (7-21, #1 on 12/22)
Post by: SHAQATTACK on December 23, 2016, 09:13:43 PM
Wow, the Cavs are showing no mercy against the Nets.

I hope it demoralizes them for rest of the season ...LOL


Scard Lakers will be tanking hard .......and Riley is NOT afraid to tank the Heat .....
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (7-21, #1 on 12/22)
Post by: liam on December 23, 2016, 10:56:31 PM
It's hilarious when people say the Nets are tanking... but we have their pick essentially  :laugh:

And it's a pick swap so....
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (7-21, #1 on 12/22)
Post by: Adelaide Celt on December 23, 2016, 11:05:45 PM
Lakers are down 57-40 to the Magic and they lost to the Nets a week ago...

Something tells me they could start tanking in the near future. Ugh.

Lord I hate them.

We all do. Amazing how they go from "potential 6th seed" to potential last place team in the west (Mavs catching up to them).

At least unlike last season they don't have the ultimate tank commander Byron Scott in charge. Luke Walton hopefully keeps them from getting their pick.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (7-22, #1 on 12/23)
Post by: Ogaju on December 24, 2016, 12:38:03 AM
don't they have to give their pick go Phoenix.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (7-22, #1 on 12/23)
Post by: ImShakHeIsShaq on December 24, 2016, 12:45:48 AM
don't they have to give their pick go Phoenix.

I hope it still isn't top 3 protected because they are on the tank wagon if it is. How many top picks are these teams going to keep getting and still have trash teams?? It's just not fair to the sport or teams who try. The teams who try the least get rewarded the most. Yep, I feel that way even though we are benefiting from it (it's not like bkn is TRYING to be bad though). I don't blame the teams who do it every season b/c it's well within their right but the league needs to fix it!
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (7-22, #1 on 12/23)
Post by: MattyIce on December 24, 2016, 12:57:53 AM
nice win thanks Dallas !
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (7-22, #1 on 12/23)
Post by: Ogaju on December 24, 2016, 01:06:30 AM
Dallas comes through in the clutch.

Our ownership of the Brooklyn franchise makes the season so much more exciting. Many games that we would not care about all of a sudden are so relevant to the Celtics fortune.

Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (7-21, #1 on 12/22)
Post by: tarheelsxxiii on December 24, 2016, 01:15:33 AM
Lakers are down 57-40 to the Magic and they lost to the Nets a week ago...

Something tells me they could start tanking in the near future. Ugh.

Lord I hate them.

We all do. Amazing how they go from "potential 6th seed" to potential last place team in the west (Mavs catching up to them).

At least unlike last season they don't have the ultimate tank commander Byron Scott in charge. Luke Walton hopefully keeps them from getting their pick.

Not a fan or apologist by any stretch, but both Randle and Nance Jr were out tonight with injury and really important to what they do.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (7-21, #1 on 12/22)
Post by: SuddenFame on December 24, 2016, 11:33:28 PM
Lakers are down 57-40 to the Magic and they lost to the Nets a week ago...

Something tells me they could start tanking in the near future. Ugh.

Lord I hate them.

We all do. Amazing how they go from "potential 6th seed" to potential last place team in the west (Mavs catching up to them).

At least unlike last season they don't have the ultimate tank commander Byron Scott in charge. Luke Walton hopefully keeps them from getting their pick.

Not a fan or apologist by any stretch, but both Randle and Nance Jr were out tonight with injury and really important to what they do.

TP for edification
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (7-22, #1 on 12/23)
Post by: liam on December 26, 2016, 08:11:39 PM
It's a win win tonight. Charlotte wins and Nets lose good for us. Nets win Charlotte loses we get some space in the standings, good for us. I'd rather the Nets lose but a win win tonight!
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (7-22, #1 on 12/23)
Post by: jpotter33 on December 26, 2016, 09:00:28 PM
Lin rolled his ankle pretty bad stepping on a foot going up for a layup. Still in the game somehow, but you have to think it's bothering him.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (7-22, #1 on 12/23)
Post by: jpotter33 on December 26, 2016, 09:02:19 PM
Lin rolled his ankle pretty bad stepping on a foot going up for a layup. Still in the game somehow, but you have to think it's bothering him.

Yep, called it. Just had to call timeout and go back to the locker room. That'd be a devastating loss to them in a tough schedule.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (7-22, #1 on 12/23)
Post by: hpantazo on December 26, 2016, 09:05:20 PM
Lin rolled his ankle pretty bad stepping on a foot going up for a layup. Still in the game somehow, but you have to think it's bothering him.

Yep, called it. Just had to call timeout and go back to the locker room. That'd be a devastating loss to them in a tough schedule.

Man, tough year for Lin. Recurring ankle injuries are tough to overcome without a long time off. This will give the Nets more of a chance to develop Whitehead and Levert. Those two guys are part of their future, may as well get them prepped and see what they got
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (7-22, #1 on 12/23)
Post by: SCeltic34 on December 26, 2016, 09:10:21 PM
Lin rolled his ankle pretty bad stepping on a foot going up for a layup. Still in the game somehow, but you have to think it's bothering him.

Yep, called it. Just had to call timeout and go back to the locker room. That'd be a devastating loss to them in a tough schedule.

According to Nets reporters it's his hamstring.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (7-22, #1 on 12/23)
Post by: jpotter33 on December 26, 2016, 09:11:48 PM
Lin rolled his ankle pretty bad stepping on a foot going up for a layup. Still in the game somehow, but you have to think it's bothering him.

Yep, called it. Just had to call timeout and go back to the locker room. That'd be a devastating loss to them in a tough schedule.

Man, tough year for Lin. Recurring ankle injuries are tough to overcome without a long time off. This will give the Nets more of a chance to develop Whitehead and Levert. Those two guys are part of their future, may as well get them prepped and see what they got

Actually, they said it was the hamstring issue again that he went out for, which is even more significant. Already out for this game, and that's probably another several weeks that he's out with the hamstring again. Wow. The Nets could ultimately get a several game cushion for the worst record in that time!
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (7-22, #1 on 12/23)
Post by: jpotter33 on December 26, 2016, 09:13:26 PM
Lin rolled his ankle pretty bad stepping on a foot going up for a layup. Still in the game somehow, but you have to think it's bothering him.

Yep, called it. Just had to call timeout and go back to the locker room. That'd be a devastating loss to them in a tough schedule.

According to Nets reporters it's his hamstring.

Yeah, I just heard that, too. Lin is a pretty tough character to keep on playing after rolling his ankle like that. He was going up off that ankle with full weight on it, too.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (7-22, #1 on 12/23)
Post by: SCeltic34 on December 26, 2016, 09:19:17 PM
Lin rolled his ankle pretty bad stepping on a foot going up for a layup. Still in the game somehow, but you have to think it's bothering him.

Yep, called it. Just had to call timeout and go back to the locker room. That'd be a devastating loss to them in a tough schedule.

According to Nets reporters it's his hamstring.

Yeah, I just heard that, too. Lin is a pretty tough character to keep on playing after rolling his ankle like that. He was going up off that ankle with full weight on it, too.

Yeah that ankle roll definitely looked bad.  The way he injured his hamstring was kind of strange - went for a tough reverse layup and never really got off the ground after he tried to jump.  He walked off the court under his own power but who knows how long he'll be out again.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (7-22, #1 on 12/23)
Post by: Denis998 on December 26, 2016, 09:45:34 PM
It is safe to say the hornets are trash. What are they even good at?
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (7-22, #1 on 12/23)
Post by: jpotter33 on December 26, 2016, 09:50:41 PM
It is safe to say the hornets are trash. What are they even good at?

Giving up leads to the worst team in the league apparently.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (7-22, #1 on 12/23)
Post by: CelticsFanFromNYC on December 26, 2016, 09:51:24 PM
Kilpatrick And Bojan just made back to back clutch 3's smh
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (7-22, #1 on 12/23)
Post by: CelticsFanFromNYC on December 26, 2016, 09:52:30 PM
And now Kemba fumbles the ball .perfect timing smh
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (7-22, #1 on 12/23)
Post by: CelticsFanFromNYC on December 26, 2016, 09:53:49 PM
Everyone  put their prayers into Charlotte basketball!!
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (7-22, #1 on 12/23)
Post by: SCeltic34 on December 26, 2016, 09:54:37 PM
Hornets just couldn't get any stops until those last 2 possessions.  Lopez was killing them and their 3's just happen to be falling tonight.

Clifford's ATO plays haven't been very impressive.  Hopefully he drew up something good here.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (7-22, #1 on 12/23)
Post by: jpotter33 on December 26, 2016, 09:55:25 PM
The good Zeller saves the day!!
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (7-22, #1 on 12/23)
Post by: mqtcelticsfan on December 26, 2016, 09:55:42 PM
Cody Zeller tho
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (7-22, #1 on 12/23)
Post by: SCeltic34 on December 26, 2016, 09:56:24 PM
I have a bad feeling about this last 2.3 seconds.  Hopefully I'm wrong.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (7-22, #1 on 12/23)
Post by: jpotter33 on December 26, 2016, 09:57:45 PM
Omg.. You've got to be kidding me. Charlotte, you should be ashamed.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (7-22, #1 on 12/23)
Post by: CelticsFanFromNYC on December 26, 2016, 09:57:48 PM
Annnnd foye for the winner..
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (7-22, #1 on 12/23)
Post by: SCeltic34 on December 26, 2016, 09:57:54 PM
A Randy Foye 3 for the win.  How unlikely.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (7-22, #1 on 12/23)
Post by: Vox_Populi on December 26, 2016, 09:58:15 PM
Remember Joe Johnson last season? Brooklyn are good for one stupid game winner a season.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (7-22, #1 on 12/23)
Post by: jpotter33 on December 26, 2016, 10:01:16 PM
Well, luckily Minny is putting a whoopin on Atlanta, and Dallas is in a close game with New Prleans. If they both pull out wins and the Sixers can win in Sacramento, then the damage won't be too bad.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (7-22, #1 on 12/23)
Post by: MattyIce on December 26, 2016, 10:05:17 PM
Well, luckily Minny is putting a whoopin on Atlanta, and Dallas is in a close game with New Prleans. If they both pull out wins and the Sixers can win in Sacramento, then the damage won't be too bad.

all that work just to not even overcome one shot
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (7-22, #1 on 12/23)
Post by: MJohnnyboy on December 26, 2016, 10:20:44 PM
Funny, I'm not too mad about the Nets winning this one. Charlotte losing helps our seeding in the east.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (7-22, #1 on 12/23)
Post by: mr. dee on December 26, 2016, 10:42:54 PM
Well, luckily Minny is putting a whoopin on Atlanta, and Dallas is in a close game with New Prleans. If they both pull out wins and the Sixers can win in Sacramento, then the damage won't be too bad.

Ideally we would want Mavs to lose too so they can completely board on that tank ship and send us Bogut for our scraps.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (7-22, #1 on 12/23)
Post by: saltlover on December 26, 2016, 10:51:13 PM
Nets went 15-31 from 3 today.  Normally they shoot under 33%, which is 29th in the league.  Basketball games like this happen sometimes.  If the Nets went 10-31 instead of 15-31, like their season average suggests, they'd have lost by double digits.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-22, #2 on 12/26)
Post by: chilidawg on December 27, 2016, 12:24:53 AM
Sixers up 6, early in the 4th.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-22, #2 on 12/26)
Post by: libermaniac on December 27, 2016, 01:05:00 AM
Sixers got ripped off.  28 seconds to go, Sixers up 1, Cousins tries a cross-over move and dribbles it off Embiid's totally planted foot, Sixers get turnover, but they call it a kicked ball.  Bad call. Cousins then proceeds to nail a 3.  Sixers had one last chance at the buzzer but Embiid's 3 is on line but short.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-22, #2 on 12/26)
Post by: Adelaide Celt on December 27, 2016, 07:36:44 AM
Checked the score on my phone at work and spent the next 5 hours seriously jeopardizing my employment by not having one second of patience with anyone I encountered and generally being an ill-tempered curmudgeon. It's now 11pm, I start work again at 7am and I'm still too annoyed to sleep  >:(

Please Danny just trade the pick (for DeMarcus Cousins of course). This has got to stop. I can't even tell anyone why I get in these foul moods because they wouldn't understand. Good lord I have issues.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-22, #2 on 12/26)
Post by: MattyIce on December 28, 2016, 08:58:53 PM
seriously it seems like Brookline can't miss from 3 >:(
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-22, #2 on 12/26)
Post by: jpotter33 on December 28, 2016, 09:02:46 PM
Checked the score on my phone at work and spent the next 5 hours seriously jeopardizing my employment by not having one second of patience with anyone I encountered and generally being an ill-tempered curmudgeon. It's now 11pm, I start work again at 7am and I'm still too annoyed to sleep  >:(

Please Danny just trade the pick (for DeMarcus Cousins of course). This has got to stop. I can't even tell anyone why I get in these foul moods because they wouldn't understand. Good lord I have issues.

Haha it does suck that you get just as ticked about Brooklyn wins as Celtics losses lol On the other hand, it's fun that there are either Brooklyn/Boston games or relevant games for the Brooklyn pick and/or our standings every night that you get to watch.

Speaking of that, the Bulls down 3 at halftime to Brooklyn  >:(
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-22, #2 on 12/26)
Post by: SHAQATTACK on December 28, 2016, 09:30:37 PM
Boston Nets trying to take Chicago Bulls down .   Bulls are playing like junk ......unless it's the Celtics and they'll shoot lights out .... ::)
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-22, #2 on 12/26)
Post by: SHAQATTACK on December 28, 2016, 09:37:28 PM
Rondo an't helping us tonight
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-22, #2 on 12/26)
Post by: Bostoncelticsforlife7 on December 28, 2016, 09:48:01 PM
Hollis-Jefferson is BAD
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-22, #2 on 12/26)
Post by: Vox_Populi on December 28, 2016, 09:56:16 PM
I'd rather have Kelly than Mirotic. I know that's an obvious observation now.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-22, #2 on 12/26)
Post by: Bostoncelticsforlife7 on December 28, 2016, 09:57:47 PM
I think this might be the ugliest game I've watched all season
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-22, #2 on 12/26)
Post by: jpotter33 on December 28, 2016, 10:01:47 PM
Rondo an't helping us tonight

Chicago, just trade us Butler already!
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-22, #2 on 12/26)
Post by: celticsclay on December 28, 2016, 10:02:39 PM
I'd rather have Kelly than Mirotic. I know that's an obvious observation now.

Mirotic or saric
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-22, #2 on 12/26)
Post by: SHAQATTACK on December 28, 2016, 10:04:00 PM
Rondo sleeping on he bench

What a riot
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-22, #2 on 12/26)
Post by: jpotter33 on December 28, 2016, 10:07:38 PM
And of course Butler goes down when they need him to win the game.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-22, #2 on 12/26)
Post by: Vox_Populi on December 28, 2016, 10:10:04 PM
I'd rather have Kelly than Mirotic. I know that's an obvious observation now.

Mirotic or saric
Saric isn't good either but he's younger and actually passes the ball. Rather have him.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-22, #2 on 12/26)
Post by: SHAQATTACK on December 28, 2016, 10:16:06 PM
How embarrassing to loose to Nets at home ....

Thanks ......do nothing ......sleeping on the bench Rondo

Wade out with Migraine ....

No chance
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-22, #2 on 12/26)
Post by: chambers on December 28, 2016, 10:17:06 PM
God what an awful call on Gibson at a crucial point in the game.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-22, #2 on 12/26)
Post by: SCeltic34 on December 28, 2016, 10:19:35 PM
Hoiberg refuses to pull Mirotic out despite how horrible is and has been this game.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-22, #2 on 12/26)
Post by: chambers on December 28, 2016, 10:20:19 PM
Mirotic is an absolute scrub lol.

Butler is THE MAN though!
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-22, #2 on 12/26)
Post by: MattyIce on December 28, 2016, 10:25:36 PM
How embarrassing to loose to Nets at home ....

Thanks ......do nothing ......sleeping on the bench Rondo

Wade out with Migraine ....

No chance

there's a chance
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-22, #2 on 12/26)
Post by: SCeltic34 on December 28, 2016, 10:26:48 PM
God what an awful call on Gibson at a crucial point in the game.

Yup.  There were a lot of bad calls this game for both sides.  Par for the course.  Thanks NBA officiating.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-22, #2 on 12/26)
Post by: saltlover on December 28, 2016, 10:29:27 PM
Thank you, Jimmy Butler.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-22, #2 on 12/26)
Post by: ImShakHeIsShaq on December 28, 2016, 10:29:38 PM
JBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBB
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-22, #2 on 12/26)
Post by: tarheelsxxiii on December 28, 2016, 10:29:48 PM
Crisis averted. Whew.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-22, #2 on 12/26)
Post by: SCeltic34 on December 28, 2016, 10:29:52 PM
Jimmy Butler.  Please come to Boston.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-22, #2 on 12/26)
Post by: chambers on December 28, 2016, 10:30:28 PM
JIMMY GETS BUCKETS!!!
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-22, #2 on 12/26)
Post by: SCeltic34 on December 28, 2016, 10:30:41 PM
One has to wonder what Atkinson was thinking there.  Why have Bogdonovic out there against Butler?  He's not a good defensive player.  Should've stuck RHJ on him.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-22, #2 on 12/26)
Post by: Vox_Populi on December 28, 2016, 10:30:53 PM
The Devil always always collects his debts.

Jimmy Butler.  Please come to Boston.
Chicago would be as good as Brooklyn without him.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-22, #2 on 12/26)
Post by: celticsclay on December 28, 2016, 10:31:07 PM
It is like they are tanking on purpose
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-22, #2 on 12/26)
Post by: jambr380 on December 28, 2016, 10:31:23 PM
Sweet - I love you, Jimmy!!  :-*
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-22, #2 on 12/26)
Post by: SHAQATTACK on December 28, 2016, 10:31:43 PM
Ha. Ha Ha ...LmBO

Too funny


Boston Nets cod e though again!
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-22, #2 on 12/26)
Post by: trickybilly on December 28, 2016, 10:32:10 PM
What a win.

Why are Brooklyn STILL playing so dam well though
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-22, #2 on 12/26)
Post by: chambers on December 28, 2016, 10:34:33 PM
What a win.

Why are Brooklyn STILL playing so dam well though

They were absolutely awful in that 4th quarter though. And the Bulls were missing Wade.

Thank you jimbo buckets!
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-22, #2 on 12/26)
Post by: SHAQATTACK on December 28, 2016, 10:38:03 PM
Another Boston win !
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-22, #2 on 12/26)
Post by: celticsclay on December 28, 2016, 10:42:01 PM
What a win.

Why are Brooklyn STILL playing so dam well though

They were absolutely awful in that 4th quarter though. And the Bulls were missing Wade.

Thank you jimbo buckets!

How is 8-23 playing well? Are we expecting Washington generals?
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-22, #2 on 12/26)
Post by: Bostoncelticsforlife7 on December 28, 2016, 10:56:36 PM
What a win.

Why are Brooklyn STILL playing so dam well though
That game winner the other night gave them confidence, they should melo out soon
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-22, #2 on 12/26)
Post by: jpotter33 on December 28, 2016, 11:01:30 PM
So, does Lopez get traded before the deadline or not? Can't imagine that they'll be winning hardly anything with him gone.

Who even makes sense for a Lopez trade, though? Wizards? Lakers? Phoenix?
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-22, #2 on 12/26)
Post by: MattyIce on December 29, 2016, 12:31:04 AM
So, does Lopez get traded before the deadline or not? Can't imagine that they'll be winning hardly anything with him gone.

Who even makes sense for a Lopez trade, though? Wizards? Lakers? Phoenix?

portland?
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-23, #2 on 12/28)
Post by: Ogaju on December 29, 2016, 12:48:46 PM
First of all why is this thread in 'Around the NBA' instead of 'Celtic Talk'??

Now to the brilliance of Danny Ainge.

Most of you criticized him for not trading for Butler on draft day. Do you now get his genius. He new he had to leave Manchurians around the league to do his bidding when called upon. One such moment was last night when Butler came through for Danny. ;D
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-23, #2 on 12/28)
Post by: MattyIce on December 29, 2016, 11:17:17 PM
can phoenix just win to help the pick and keep raptors in the 2cd/3rd seed just in case cavs falter?
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-23, #2 on 12/28)
Post by: hpantazo on December 29, 2016, 11:24:07 PM
can phoenix just win to help the pick and keep raptors in the 2cd/3rd seed just in case cavs falter?

Big win by the Suns tonight!
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-23, #2 on 12/28)
Post by: jpotter33 on December 29, 2016, 11:26:03 PM
Now if Dallas can do the same and provide some more separation from Brooklyn in the standings, tonight won't be all lost. Philly was also going to lose in Utah tonight without Embiid, but they could win in Denver tomorrow with him back.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-23, #2 on 12/28)
Post by: csfansince60s on December 29, 2016, 11:33:07 PM
This thread is bad for my blood pressure.

I get far more angry at Nets wins than Cs losses...that's not a good sign.

It makes me hate teams too...like the Hornets.

They beat Miami handily tonight and lose to the Nyets.....same with Denver and Mudiay.



Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-23, #2 on 12/28)
Post by: MattyIce on December 29, 2016, 11:57:08 PM
This thread is bad for my blood pressure.

I get far more angry at Nets wins than Cs losses...that's not a good sign.

It makes me hate teams too...like the Hornets.

They beat Miami handily tonight and lose to the Nyets.....same with Denver and Mudiay.

i know me too, any Nets win puts me in a bad mood for a couple days.

Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-23, #2 on 12/28)
Post by: jpotter33 on December 30, 2016, 12:33:18 AM
Dallas up 10 heading into the 4th. It'd be great if both Phoenix and Dallas provided a 2 win cushion over Brooklyn tonight, even if Philly still stayed a game behind Brooklyn.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-23, #2 on 12/28)
Post by: The One on December 30, 2016, 02:24:36 PM
If Brooklyn wins tonight...they will have the exact same record at this same point last year.

Hoping for a loss.

Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-23, #2 on 12/28)
Post by: CelticGuardian on December 30, 2016, 02:38:15 PM
Fultz baby!!
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-23, #2 on 12/28)
Post by: Phantom255x on December 30, 2016, 08:29:10 PM
Wizard up 20 on the Nets.

8 minutes left in the 3rd quarter.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-23, #2 on 12/28)
Post by: SHAQATTACK on December 30, 2016, 08:30:36 PM
GO WIZ
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-23, #2 on 12/28)
Post by: Ogaju on December 30, 2016, 08:35:21 PM
Washington Celtics beating up on the Nets.

Go Celtics.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-23, #2 on 12/28)
Post by: Phantom255x on December 30, 2016, 09:08:04 PM
Up 17 with 5 minutes to go. GO WIZ!
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-23, #2 on 12/28)
Post by: Ogaju on December 30, 2016, 09:29:50 PM
Up 17 with 5 minutes to go. GO WIZ!

Where are we playing the Nets, Washington or Brooklyn?
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-23, #2 on 12/28)
Post by: Vox_Populi on December 30, 2016, 09:34:10 PM
They have the Jazz next. Who just got George Hill back. Lopez should also struggle against Gobert and they probably won't have Lin.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-23, #2 on 12/28)
Post by: SCeltic34 on December 30, 2016, 10:04:56 PM
Minnesota up 16 on the Bucks with ~5 minutes left to play too.  That would be a nice victory for us. 

Philly up 10 on Denver, but I never count on Philly to win. 
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-23, #2 on 12/28)
Post by: Boris Badenov on December 30, 2016, 10:08:09 PM
Philly is up 10 at the half in Denver. Fingers crossed. Though they seem to be a really bad second half team, based on my casual observation.

If the season ended today we'd have a great chance to get one of Fultz, Smith, Tatum or Jackson. And it'd be a certainty we would get one of those guys or Ball or Monk.

Crazy.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (6-17, #4 on 12/12)
Post by: saltlover on December 30, 2016, 10:08:19 PM
Still, I think the Lakers win tonight.  I also think the Nets finish the month with only 8 wins on the season.

Remember kids, this is the man who accurately predicted the Nets record at the end of November (http://forums.celticsblog.com/index.php?topic=87730.msg2195517#msg2195517), so you can take this to the bank.  ;)

8-24 at the end of December.  I hope you indeed took it to the bank, bdm.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-23, #2 on 12/28)
Post by: jpotter33 on December 30, 2016, 10:18:33 PM
Minnesota up 16 on the Bucks with ~5 minutes left to play too.  That would be a nice victory for us. 

Philly up 10 on Denver, but I never count on Philly to win.

Honestly, that's a win-win game for us. We'd prefer if Philly won due to the Brooklyn pick, but Denver winning also helps the Boogie Trade Watch, since they're the main competitor for the 8th seed in the West right now with the Kings. Will need quite a bit more to get them to actually trade him, though.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-23, #2 on 12/28)
Post by: tarheelsxxiii on December 30, 2016, 10:41:54 PM
Minnesota up 16 on the Bucks with ~5 minutes left to play too.  That would be a nice victory for us. 

Philly up 10 on Denver, but I never count on Philly to win.

Honestly, that's a win-win game for us. We'd prefer if Philly won due to the Brooklyn pick, but Denver winning also helps the Boogie Trade Watch, since they're the main competitor for the 8th seed in the West right now with the Kings. Will need quite a bit more to get them to actually trade him, though.

I appreciate how easy you guys make it for the rest of us to follow BKN's season, but reading this thread makes me realize how obsessive our fanbase is.  Lol.  Pretty awesome, though.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-23, #2 on 12/28)
Post by: Boris Badenov on December 30, 2016, 10:44:30 PM
Minnesota up 16 on the Bucks with ~5 minutes left to play too.  That would be a nice victory for us. 

Philly up 10 on Denver, but I never count on Philly to win.

Honestly, that's a win-win game for us. We'd prefer if Philly won due to the Brooklyn pick, but Denver winning also helps the Boogie Trade Watch, since they're the main competitor for the 8th seed in the West right now with the Kings. Will need quite a bit more to get them to actually trade him, though.

I appreciate how easy you guys make it for the rest of us to follow BKN's season, but reading this thread makes me realize how obsessive our fanbase is.  Lol.  Pretty awesome, though.

My day isn't complete unless I've simmed the lottery at least ten times on www.tankathon.com (http://www.tankathon.com).
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-23, #2 on 12/28)
Post by: tarheelsxxiii on December 30, 2016, 10:47:25 PM
Minnesota up 16 on the Bucks with ~5 minutes left to play too.  That would be a nice victory for us. 

Philly up 10 on Denver, but I never count on Philly to win.

Honestly, that's a win-win game for us. We'd prefer if Philly won due to the Brooklyn pick, but Denver winning also helps the Boogie Trade Watch, since they're the main competitor for the 8th seed in the West right now with the Kings. Will need quite a bit more to get them to actually trade him, though.

I appreciate how easy you guys make it for the rest of us to follow BKN's season, but reading this thread makes me realize how obsessive our fanbase is.  Lol.  Pretty awesome, though.

My day isn't complete unless I've simmed the lottery at least ten times on www.tankathon.com (http://www.tankathon.com).

Wow, thank you for exponentially improving my life / making me neglect everything else important.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-23, #2 on 12/28)
Post by: Ogaju on December 30, 2016, 10:48:45 PM
Philadelphia is a shameful team. How many years in a row is this team going to tank.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-23, #2 on 12/28)
Post by: Boris Badenov on December 30, 2016, 10:57:04 PM
Philadelphia is a shameful team. How many years in a row is this team going to tank.

I don't even think they are tanking any more. They just have the ultimate losing culture.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-23, #2 on 12/28)
Post by: jpotter33 on December 30, 2016, 11:01:10 PM
Minnesota up 16 on the Bucks with ~5 minutes left to play too.  That would be a nice victory for us. 

Philly up 10 on Denver, but I never count on Philly to win.

Honestly, that's a win-win game for us. We'd prefer if Philly won due to the Brooklyn pick, but Denver winning also helps the Boogie Trade Watch, since they're the main competitor for the 8th seed in the West right now with the Kings. Will need quite a bit more to get them to actually trade him, though.

I appreciate how easy you guys make it for the rest of us to follow BKN's season, but reading this thread makes me realize how obsessive our fanbase is.  Lol.  Pretty awesome, though.

My day isn't complete unless I've simmed the lottery at least ten times on www.tankathon.com (http://www.tankathon.com).

Wow, thank you for exponentially improving my life / making me neglect everything else important.

I've watched so much basketball this year it's not even funny. Between C's games, potentially relevant Brooklyn pick games, and potentially relevant trade target games (like Boogie in Sacramento, Butler in Chicago, and George in Indiana), like 75% of games are relevant in some way.  :o

And I'm writing my dissertation full-time at the moment, so literally all I've been doing for the last several weeks is spending time with the wife and kids, writing and research, and basketball. lol Fun times!
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-23, #2 on 12/28)
Post by: PAOBoston on December 30, 2016, 11:11:47 PM
Philadelphia is a shameful team. How many years in a row is this team going to tank.
They aren't tanking. They just suck.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-23, #2 on 12/28)
Post by: jpotter33 on December 30, 2016, 11:14:46 PM
Come on, Philly! Up nine with four to go!
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-23, #2 on 12/28)
Post by: Ogaju on December 30, 2016, 11:17:30 PM
Minnesota up 16 on the Bucks with ~5 minutes left to play too.  That would be a nice victory for us. 

Philly up 10 on Denver, but I never count on Philly to win.

Honestly, that's a win-win game for us. We'd prefer if Philly won due to the Brooklyn pick, but Denver winning also helps the Boogie Trade Watch, since they're the main competitor for the 8th seed in the West right now with the Kings. Will need quite a bit more to get them to actually trade him, though.

I appreciate how easy you guys make it for the rest of us to follow BKN's season, but reading this thread makes me realize how obsessive our fanbase is.  Lol.  Pretty awesome, though.

My day isn't complete unless I've simmed the lottery at least ten times on www.tankathon.com (http://www.tankathon.com).

Wow, thank you for exponentially improving my life / making me neglect everything else important.

I've watched so much basketball this year it's not even funny. Between C's games, potentially relevant Brooklyn pick games, and potentially relevant trade target games (like Boogie in Sacramento, Butler in Chicago, and George in Indiana), like 75% of games are relevant in some way.  :o

And I'm writing my dissertation full-time at the moment, so literally all I've been doing for the last several weeks is spending time with the wife and kids, writing and research, and basketball. lol Fun times!

Don't you wish your dissertation is about basketball.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-23, #2 on 12/28)
Post by: jpotter33 on December 30, 2016, 11:30:03 PM
Wait wait wait, is Embiid really taunting the crowd after only making one out of two free throws? lol

EDIT: Well, he made up for it by making both of those crucial free throws right there.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-23, #2 on 12/28)
Post by: hpantazo on December 30, 2016, 11:32:55 PM
Wait wait wait, is Embiid really taunting the crowd after only making one out of two free throws? lol

Well he just came up with 2 big points when it counts.Thank you Joel for helping our pick.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-23, #2 on 12/28)
Post by: SCeltic34 on December 30, 2016, 11:37:39 PM
That was tanktastic defense by Philly there.  Gave Gallinari an easy dunk
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-23, #2 on 12/28)
Post by: jpotter33 on December 30, 2016, 11:40:34 PM
(https://media.giphy.com/media/d9ltR6odFmQsE/giphy.gif)


Thanks, Philly!
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-23, #2 on 12/28)
Post by: MattyIce on December 30, 2016, 11:42:12 PM
(https://media.giphy.com/media/d9ltR6odFmQsE/giphy.gif)


Thanks, Philly!

maybe
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-23, #2 on 12/28)
Post by: MattyIce on December 30, 2016, 11:43:20 PM
Wow!
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-23, #2 on 12/28)
Post by: jpotter33 on December 30, 2016, 11:43:40 PM
Lol. Only the Sixers could make it that close lol

There was never even a time last year where the Nets were tied or in sole possession of the worst record in the league, right?

This will be the second time it's happened now this season. Crazy!
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-23, #2 on 12/28)
Post by: GratefulCs on December 30, 2016, 11:44:00 PM
We shoulda lost to the heat


Just kidding!!


..

Kinda
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-23, #2 on 12/28)
Post by: KGs Knee on December 30, 2016, 11:46:54 PM
Philadelphia is a shameful team. How many years in a row is this team going to tank.

I don't even think they are tanking any more. They just have the ultimate losing culture.

Unbalanced and young roster.  It's to be expected.  Philly has made some small strides this year, though.

Embiid looks like a legit stud.  Simmons is supposed to be, but who knows.  Ilyasova is a legit 3rd big who can make a big impact in a three-point shooting centric league.  Sergio Rodriguez is a legit backup PG on a reasonable deal.  Saric has shown some potential.  Stauskas has improved.  But it's a slow build right now, it could still go wrong.

Philly really needs to get something for Noel and Okafor.  Stop sitting on the pot before you get stuck eating Edited.  Profanity and masked profanity are against forum rules and may result in discipline..

It's better in Philly than it was, but they still have a long way to go.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-23, #2 on 12/28)
Post by: Ilikesports17 on December 31, 2016, 12:00:58 AM
Philadelphia is a shameful team. How many years in a row is this team going to tank.

I don't even think they are tanking any more. They just have the ultimate losing culture.

Unbalanced and young roster.  It's to be expected.  Philly has made some small strides this year, though.

Embiid looks like a legit stud.  Simmons is supposed to be, but who knows.  Ilyasova is a legit 3rd big who can make a big impact in a three-point shooting centric league.  Sergio Rodriguez is a legit backup PG on a reasonable deal.  Saric has shown some potential.  Stauskas has improved.  But it's a slow build right now, it could still go wrong.

Philly really needs to get something for Noel and Okafor.  Stop sitting on the pot before you get stuck eating ****.

It's better in Philly than it was, but they still have a long way to go.
I've always liked Illyasova. Seems to be a real pest and a clever defender.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-23, #2 on 12/28)
Post by: libermaniac on December 31, 2016, 12:16:35 AM
Crazy finish to that Sixers win.  Philly up 4 with 5.5 seconds, no timeouts for Denver.  Denver inbounds it 3/4 of the court and Embiid almost steals it, but then idiotically fouls Nokic on a 3 with 3.0 seconds left.  Nokic makes the first 2 and then misses the next, and Denver gets the rebound ... the Nuggets SG has a clean look on a 5 foot bank shot, but shoots short ... meanwhile the scorekeepers stops the clock with 1.9 seconds left for at least 1.5 seconds, giving the Nuggets an extra tip attempt ... they miss two and Sixers win. 

I noticed by replaying the play in slow motion that the clock stuck on 1.9 seconds for about a second and a half.  Edited.  Profanity and masked profanity are against forum rules and may result in discipline. kind of BS is that by the hometown scorekeeper?  I have to believe had Denver tipped in the tying shot, they would have reviewed it. But, who knows.  I wonder how often this kind of BS goes on.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-23, #2 on 12/28)
Post by: Bostoncelticsforlife7 on December 31, 2016, 12:17:58 AM
I'm really excited to watch Harry Giles tomorrow at 12:00, I want him to break out sooooo bad.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-23, #2 on 12/28)
Post by: Denis998 on December 31, 2016, 12:23:19 AM
Crazy finish to that Sixers win.  Philly up 4 with 5.5 seconds, no timeouts for Denver.  Denver inbounds it 3/4 of the court and Embiid almost steals it, but then idiotically fouls Nokic on a 3 with 3.0 seconds left.  Nokic makes the first 2 and then misses the next, and Denver gets the rebound ... the Nuggets SG has a clean look on a 5 foot bank shot, but shoots short ... meanwhile the scorekeepers stops the clock with 1.9 seconds left for at least 1.5 seconds, giving the Nuggets an extra tip attempt ... they miss two and Sixers win. 

I noticed by replaying the play in slow motion that the clock stuck on 1.9 seconds for about a second and a half.  **** kind of BS is that by the hometown scorekeeper?  I have to believe had Denver tipped in the tying shot, they would have reviewed it. But, who knows.  I wonder how often this kind of BS goes on.
Even after replay, I still dont know where the foul was.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-23, #2 on 12/28)
Post by: libermaniac on December 31, 2016, 02:43:55 AM
Crazy finish to that Sixers win.  Philly up 4 with 5.5 seconds, no timeouts for Denver.  Denver inbounds it 3/4 of the court and Embiid almost steals it, but then idiotically fouls Nokic on a 3 with 3.0 seconds left.  Nokic makes the first 2 and then misses the next, and Denver gets the rebound ... the Nuggets SG has a clean look on a 5 foot bank shot, but shoots short ... meanwhile the scorekeepers stops the clock with 1.9 seconds left for at least 1.5 seconds, giving the Nuggets an extra tip attempt ... they miss two and Sixers win. 

I noticed by replaying the play in slow motion that the clock stuck on 1.9 seconds for about a second and a half.  **** kind of BS is that by the hometown scorekeeper?  I have to believe had Denver tipped in the tying shot, they would have reviewed it. But, who knows.  I wonder how often this kind of BS goes on.
Even after replay, I still dont know where the foul was.

There was also an "inadvertent whistle" with 2:30 to go when Embiid had made a nice move and was headed towards a layup.  It was as if the fix was in against Philly.  Nice that they still pulled it out.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-24, #1 on 12/30)
Post by: Adelaide Celt on January 02, 2017, 01:24:10 AM
No luck today with Minnesota and Miami both losing.

Only 2 games worth taking note of tomorrow with Utah playing in Brooklyn and the Suns are away against the Clippers.

The following day looks a lot more promising though. Minnesota @ Philadelphia, Washington @ Dallas and Miami @ Phoenix.

Guaranteed a couple of good wins there, the flip side of course is we are also guaranteed a couple of unfortunate losses. Especially hard to choose who to want to win out of the Heat and the Suns...
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-24, #1 on 12/30)
Post by: libermaniac on January 02, 2017, 02:51:59 AM
George Hill will be out tomorrow vs. Brooklyn with concussion symptoms.  Hope they can still take the Nets.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-24, #1 on 12/30)
Post by: libermaniac on January 02, 2017, 08:26:57 PM
It's amazing how the Nets seem to be in every game. Roll over already ;-)
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-24, #1 on 12/30)
Post by: Quetzalcoatl on January 02, 2017, 08:32:41 PM
It's amazing how the Nets seem to be in every game. Roll over already ;-)

It was like this last year, too.  They were a Brook layup from beating Golden State.  Just take solace in the fact that they always roll over in the fact that they always roll over in the 4th quarter.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-24, #1 on 12/30)
Post by: saltlover on January 02, 2017, 08:33:21 PM
It's amazing how the Nets seem to be in every game. Roll over already ;-)

It's fine.  The Jazz will win a close game that leaves them tired for us tomorrow.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-24, #1 on 12/30)
Post by: Phantom255x on January 02, 2017, 08:49:32 PM
It's amazing how the Nets seem to be in every game. Roll over already ;-)

Worst case scenario, the Jazz lose and then hopefully we beat them tomorrow.

Jazz drop in the west standings a bit.

Actually.. that's not too bad. "Gordon Hayward" watch everybody.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-24, #1 on 12/30)
Post by: jpotter33 on January 02, 2017, 09:05:22 PM
They'll really start being out of games once they finally bite the bullet and trade Lopez, which I think most people suspect that they'll do before the deadline.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-24, #1 on 12/30)
Post by: Phantom255x on January 02, 2017, 09:10:42 PM
Nets are up 6 late in the 3rd quarter.

Gordon Hayward must be so frustrated that he wants to leave Utah this summer :laugh:
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-24, #1 on 12/30)
Post by: jpotter33 on January 02, 2017, 09:18:29 PM
Nets are up 6 late in the 3rd quarter.

Gordon Hayward must be so frustrated that he wants to leave Utah this summer :laugh:

I don't quite get the Hayward fascination around here, other than he's one of the few realistic top free agents we could get this summer.

Will it really be justified to pay him basically 20 million more than Crowder? Yeah, he's a better overall player and scorer than Crowder, but Crowder is a better defender and shooter than Hayward.

Also, it's kind of the same issue with Butler or PG - he alone won't move us into contention. We still have to upgrade the big position next to Horford. If we'd trade for Noel and still somehow have room for Hayward this summer, then I'm down for that, though I'd still prefer trading for Butler or PG.

However, I don't think Hayward alone moves the needle much for us, and at the cost it will take to sign him, I'm not sure that he justifiably deserves that contract from us. If we don't upgrade our other big position somehow, then I'd probably rather pay Milsap that kind of money due to him playing a position of need for us, even with how much older than Hayward he is.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-24, #1 on 12/30)
Post by: SCeltic34 on January 02, 2017, 09:19:33 PM
If Utah looks this bad tomorrow, we're going to blow them out by 15+.  They look even worse than Chicago did a few nights back.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-24, #1 on 12/30)
Post by: Phantom255x on January 02, 2017, 09:27:06 PM
Nets are up 6 late in the 3rd quarter.

Gordon Hayward must be so frustrated that he wants to leave Utah this summer :laugh:

I don't quite get the Hayward fascination around here, other than he's one of the few realistic top free agents we could get this summer.

Will it really be justified to pay him basically 20 million more than Crowder? Yeah, he's a better overall player and scorer than Crowder, but Crowder is a better defender and shooter than Hayward.

Also, it's kind of the same issue with Butler or PG - he alone won't move us into contention. We still have to upgrade the big position next to Horford. If we'd trade for Noel and still somehow have room for Hayward this summer, then I'm down for that, though I'd still prefer trading for Butler or PG.

However, I don't think Hayward alone moves the needle much for us, and at the cost it will take to sign him, I'm not sure that he justifiably deserves that contract from us. If we don't upgrade our other big position somehow, then I'd probably rather pay Milsap that kind of money due to him playing a position of need for us, even with how much older than Hayward he is.

I agree with you, but frankly there really isn't anyone who "threads the needle" for us other than a HEALTHY Blake Griffin (emphasis on healthy), or DeMarcus Cousins (who would cost a ton). Maybe PG13? (I have my doubts though).

Hayward fills a need as the smooth #2 scorer alongside IT, because once teams double team and contain IT, someone else needs to step on offense, and that's where the C's have an issue (closest they have to a #2 scorer is Bradley, which isn't a confidence-booster). That's why losing Bradley hurt us a TON in the playoffs last year. Evan Turner was literally our #2 scorer in some of the games (not ideal).

Hayward also has size and can rebound a bit.

I'm only on board because he could be an offensive weapon (IT won't save us EVERY 4th quarter sadly), and he is the most realistic target I believe. Otherwise, you have to delve into the likes of Ibaka/Noel/Millsap, each of them very good but also don't thread the needle" for us either. Adding Millsap makes us the "new Hawks" IMO. Maybe that's a bad reason, but I want this team to make the leap, not stay "middle of the pack" long term.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-24, #1 on 12/30)
Post by: hwangjini_1 on January 02, 2017, 09:32:44 PM
brooklyn is now losing in the 4th to utah, 86-78.

gooooooo jazz!!  ;D

suuuuuuuck nets!!  ;D
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-24, #1 on 12/30)
Post by: Ogaju on January 02, 2017, 09:49:13 PM
Go Boston Jazz. Beat the Nets.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-24, #1 on 12/30)
Post by: jpotter33 on January 02, 2017, 09:49:41 PM
Go Boston Jazz. Beat the Nets.

And then suck tomorrow.  ;)
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-24, #1 on 12/30)
Post by: Ogaju on January 02, 2017, 09:50:31 PM
tomorrow they become Utah again. Hahahahaha !!!
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-24, #1 on 12/30)
Post by: libermaniac on January 02, 2017, 10:17:20 PM
The Nets are alone now - worst record in the association!
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-24, #1 on 12/30)
Post by: mef730 on January 02, 2017, 10:20:06 PM
And, for the first time this season, BKN is in sole possession of the last spot in the league.

"We're number 1! We're number 1!" or, in this case, "They're number 30! They're number 30!"

Mike
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-25, #1 on 1/2)
Post by: saltlover on January 03, 2017, 10:51:53 PM
Sixers with a buzzer beater win moves the Nets to a full game lead for the worst record.  And Dallas just beat Washington to earn win #11.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-25, #1 on 1/2)
Post by: hpantazo on January 03, 2017, 11:05:11 PM
The value of the Nets pick is peaking right as the trade deadline approaches. Combine that with the talent at the top of this draft, and things should get interesting soon.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-25, #1 on 1/2)
Post by: Vox_Populi on January 03, 2017, 11:05:29 PM
Brooklyn have a rough dozen coming up. Pacers, Cavs, Hawks, healthy Pelicans twice, Raptors twice, Hornets, Rockets and Spurs make up 10 of their next 12. The other two are Philly and Miami. Philly have been tough for them these last two seasons though.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-25, #1 on 1/2)
Post by: Boris Badenov on January 04, 2017, 12:33:57 AM
If we don't sweep them this year, I'm going to go bananas.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-25, #1 on 1/2)
Post by: blink on January 04, 2017, 12:43:41 AM
The value of the Nets pick is peaking right as the trade deadline approaches. Combine that with the talent at the top of this draft, and things should get interesting soon.

This 100%.  It sure opens up the options for us.  I kind of hope we keep the pick, but that might not be the best thing for the team.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-25, #1 on 1/2)
Post by: Rondo9 on January 04, 2017, 01:08:08 AM
Edit.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-25, #1 on 1/2)
Post by: slightly biased bias fan on January 04, 2017, 03:40:33 AM
The value of the Nets pick is peaking right as the trade deadline approaches. Combine that with the talent at the top of this draft, and things should get interesting soon.

This 100%.  It sure opens up the options for us.  I kind of hope we keep the pick, but that might not be the best thing for the team.

At the moment Cousins is the only talent worthy of the Brooklyn pick with the possibility of being traded and unless Sacramento go on a huge losing streak, he ain't being moved till the end of the season. Given Butler's rise, he isn't being moved, nor is George as Bird has repeatedly stated.

If I was Brooklyn I would be shopping Lopez for a low lottery pick right now, because he is becoming more and more irrelevant as the season passes and next season they aren't getting anyone substantial either.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-25, #1 on 1/2)
Post by: The One on January 04, 2017, 07:47:41 AM
-7.7

That is Brooklyn's net rating...http://stats.nba.com/teams/advanced/#!?sort=NET_RATING&dir=1

That is the worst in the Association.

Way to go Brooklyn!!!


Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-25, #1 on 1/2)
Post by: mef730 on January 04, 2017, 11:05:34 AM
Last night was one of the best nights our draft pick had (on a night that BKN wasn't playing). 76ers won (after nearly giving me a heart attack along the way; get off your knees, guys, you're blowing the game), Mavs won, Suns won, Lakers won.

And let's not forget this: Since we switch picks with the Nets, every win for us makes their eventual pick worse, helping us in 2018.

Summary:

We are now about 40% of the way through the season.

The Nets are now a game "ahead" in the draft pick, the first time that has happened this year.

There is not a single team in the Western Conference with fewer than 11 wins. That's three games ahead of the Nets. Even better, there are three teams with 11 wins and only four wins separate last place in the west and the eighth freakin' playoff spot. Yes, eight teams are within four wins of each other. That's parity and, hopefully, it means that they will each win enough games against each other to be mediocre, but still better than BKN.

Okay, Miami and Philly still suck (10 and 9 wins, respectively). But the next worst team in the east is Detroit with 16 wins. Yup, twice the number that BKN has.

2016 sucked for Brooklyn. May the suckage continue into 2017.

Mike
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-25, #1 on 1/2)
Post by: libermaniac on January 04, 2017, 12:00:14 PM
There is not a single team in the Western Conference with fewer than 11 wins. That's three games ahead of the Nets. Even better, there are three teams with 11 wins and only four wins separate last place in the west and the eighth freakin' playoff spot. Yes, eight teams are within four wins of each other. That's parity and, hopefully, it means that they will each win enough games against each other to be mediocre, but still better than BKN.

The other thing it hopefully means is that teams will have less incentive to tank, since the playoffs are within reach.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-25, #1 on 1/2)
Post by: Quetzalcoatl on January 04, 2017, 12:08:18 PM
Honestly the further this college season goes, the less impressed with this draft I am.  I really thought it was going to be more special, but top prospects like Dennis "T-Rex" Johnson Jr. and Malik Monk look like shoot first defensive liabilities.  Josh Jackson looks pretty good, but he's not like a once in a generation talent by any means.  I am basically Fultz, Jackson or bust right now.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-25, #1 on 1/2)
Post by: hpantazo on January 04, 2017, 12:35:15 PM
Honestly the further this college season goes, the less impressed with this draft I am.  I really thought it was going to be more special, but top prospects like Dennis "T-Rex" Johnson Jr. and Malik Monk look like shoot first defensive liabilities.  Josh Jackson looks pretty good, but he's not like a once in a generation talent by any means.  I am basically Fultz, Jackson or bust right now.

Agreed. Considering the buzz this draft class has, and that most of the top tier players are guards and we have a ton of guard depth, if we don't see any of these guys as a generational , franchise player talent, then it makes total sense to trade this pick now while the value is sky high.

For example Josh Jackson looks good, but if the most we can hope for from him is a Jimmy Butler level ceiling, then you absolutely trade that pick for Butler who is ready now to help and is already at his peak.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-25, #1 on 1/2)
Post by: jpotter33 on January 04, 2017, 10:17:08 PM
https://twitter.com/MiamiHEAT/status/816827216256323589?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

Not good news for the Brooklyn pick. Winslow likely out for the rest of season after shoulder surgery.

With Riley's virtual admission that they'll be tanking the rest of the year, this Winslow injury will just make it easier for them.

They're the third worst record in the league right now at 10-26. Brooklyn is at 8-25 at the moment. I worry about them down the stretch. I think Philly should stay slightly ahead of Brooklyn for most of the season, especially after Simmons comes back. But I could see the Heat rivaling the Nets for futility at the end of the season, especially if they trade off Dragic.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-25, #1 on 1/2)
Post by: saltlover on January 04, 2017, 10:23:58 PM
https://twitter.com/MiamiHEAT/status/816827216256323589?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

Not good news for the Brooklyn pick. Winslow likely out for the rest of season after shoulder surgery.

With Riley's virtual admission that they'll be tanking the rest of the year, this Winslow injury will just make it easier for them.

They're the third worst record in the league right now at 10-26. Brooklyn is at 8-25 at the moment. I worry about them down the stretch. I think Philly should stay slightly ahead of Brooklyn for most of the season, especially after Simmons comes back. But I could see the Heat rivaling the Nets for futility at the end of the season, especially if they trade off Dragic.

The good news is that the Nets are just a terrible team already.  And I fully expect Lopez to be traded by the deadline, which will far outweigh the loss of Winslow.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-25, #1 on 1/2)
Post by: max215 on January 04, 2017, 10:33:26 PM
https://twitter.com/MiamiHEAT/status/816827216256323589?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

Not good news for the Brooklyn pick. Winslow likely out for the rest of season after shoulder surgery.

With Riley's virtual admission that they'll be tanking the rest of the year, this Winslow injury will just make it easier for them.

They're the third worst record in the league right now at 10-26. Brooklyn is at 8-25 at the moment. I worry about them down the stretch. I think Philly should stay slightly ahead of Brooklyn for most of the season, especially after Simmons comes back. But I could see the Heat rivaling the Nets for futility at the end of the season, especially if they trade off Dragic.

I'm not worried at all. Not only are the Nets terrible, but this draft is ludicrously deep. All we need is a top-7 pick.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-25, #1 on 1/2)
Post by: hpantazo on January 04, 2017, 10:38:32 PM
https://twitter.com/MiamiHEAT/status/816827216256323589?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

Not good news for the Brooklyn pick. Winslow likely out for the rest of season after shoulder surgery.

With Riley's virtual admission that they'll be tanking the rest of the year, this Winslow injury will just make it easier for them.

They're the third worst record in the league right now at 10-26. Brooklyn is at 8-25 at the moment. I worry about them down the stretch. I think Philly should stay slightly ahead of Brooklyn for most of the season, especially after Simmons comes back. But I could see the Heat rivaling the Nets for futility at the end of the season, especially if they trade off Dragic.

The good news is that the Nets are just a terrible team already.  And I fully expect Lopez to be traded by the deadline, which will far outweigh the loss of Winslow.

Yeah. Also, Winslow has missed a lot of games this season already, and James Johnson has filled in really well for him.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-25, #1 on 1/2)
Post by: jpotter33 on January 04, 2017, 10:50:51 PM
I'm hoping they can beat the Kings tonight, though they're without Whiteside. Up 15-8 right now. A Heat win would be killing two birds with one stone.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-25, #1 on 1/2)
Post by: SCeltic34 on January 04, 2017, 10:51:06 PM
https://twitter.com/MiamiHEAT/status/816827216256323589?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

Not good news for the Brooklyn pick. Winslow likely out for the rest of season after shoulder surgery.

With Riley's virtual admission that they'll be tanking the rest of the year, this Winslow injury will just make it easier for them.

They're the third worst record in the league right now at 10-26. Brooklyn is at 8-25 at the moment. I worry about them down the stretch. I think Philly should stay slightly ahead of Brooklyn for most of the season, especially after Simmons comes back. But I could see the Heat rivaling the Nets for futility at the end of the season, especially if they trade off Dragic.

The good news is that the Nets are just a terrible team already.  And I fully expect Lopez to be traded by the deadline, which will far outweigh the loss of Winslow.

I agree it makes the most sense for Brooklyn to trade Lopez, but I believe management has said that they're planning to hang on to him.  I guess we'll see.  I'm not sure which playoff bound team makes sense for him.

I've seen trade ideas on the Nets page from their fans.  Downright delusional stuff, like proposing Lopez to the C's in exchange for Jaylen Brown, Zeller, and a future first rounder, or Lopez to the Lakers for Ingram and Nick Young.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-25, #1 on 1/2)
Post by: jpotter33 on January 04, 2017, 10:55:09 PM
https://twitter.com/MiamiHEAT/status/816827216256323589?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

Not good news for the Brooklyn pick. Winslow likely out for the rest of season after shoulder surgery.

With Riley's virtual admission that they'll be tanking the rest of the year, this Winslow injury will just make it easier for them.

They're the third worst record in the league right now at 10-26. Brooklyn is at 8-25 at the moment. I worry about them down the stretch. I think Philly should stay slightly ahead of Brooklyn for most of the season, especially after Simmons comes back. But I could see the Heat rivaling the Nets for futility at the end of the season, especially if they trade off Dragic.

I'm not worried at all. Not only are the Nets terrible, but this draft is ludicrously deep. All we need is a top-7 pick.

I'm more worried about the trade value of it. If we have any chance of trading it before the deadline, we'd need them to be leading the tankathon race, or at least right there close to it.

I'm also afraid that as the college season goes on there will be a clear consensus cut-off, and we'll end up right on the other side of that cut-off, similar to this past summer's two-man draft. I pretty much guarantee that a trade would've got done if we had the second pick instead of the third pick, let alone the first pick.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-25, #1 on 1/2)
Post by: saltlover on January 04, 2017, 10:59:40 PM
https://twitter.com/MiamiHEAT/status/816827216256323589?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

Not good news for the Brooklyn pick. Winslow likely out for the rest of season after shoulder surgery.

With Riley's virtual admission that they'll be tanking the rest of the year, this Winslow injury will just make it easier for them.

They're the third worst record in the league right now at 10-26. Brooklyn is at 8-25 at the moment. I worry about them down the stretch. I think Philly should stay slightly ahead of Brooklyn for most of the season, especially after Simmons comes back. But I could see the Heat rivaling the Nets for futility at the end of the season, especially if they trade off Dragic.

I'm not worried at all. Not only are the Nets terrible, but this draft is ludicrously deep. All we need is a top-7 pick.

I'm more worried about the trade value of it. If we have any chance of trading it before the deadline, we'd need them to be leading the tankathon race, or at least right there close to it.

I'm also afraid that as the college season goes on there will be a clear consensus cut-off, and we'll end up right on the other side of that cut-off, similar to this past summer's two-man draft. I pretty much guarantee that a trade would've got done if we had the second pick instead of the third pick, let alone the first pick.

Then you're irrationally worried.  The Nets will have a bottom 3 record, and likely bottom 2, by the deadline.  No more than 13 wins by that point.

Also, that two-player draft stuff is also nonsense.  Brown already looks ahead of Ingram.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-25, #1 on 1/2)
Post by: jpotter33 on January 04, 2017, 11:24:08 PM
https://twitter.com/MiamiHEAT/status/816827216256323589?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

Not good news for the Brooklyn pick. Winslow likely out for the rest of season after shoulder surgery.

With Riley's virtual admission that they'll be tanking the rest of the year, this Winslow injury will just make it easier for them.

They're the third worst record in the league right now at 10-26. Brooklyn is at 8-25 at the moment. I worry about them down the stretch. I think Philly should stay slightly ahead of Brooklyn for most of the season, especially after Simmons comes back. But I could see the Heat rivaling the Nets for futility at the end of the season, especially if they trade off Dragic.

I'm not worried at all. Not only are the Nets terrible, but this draft is ludicrously deep. All we need is a top-7 pick.

I'm more worried about the trade value of it. If we have any chance of trading it before the deadline, we'd need them to be leading the tankathon race, or at least right there close to it.

I'm also afraid that as the college season goes on there will be a clear consensus cut-off, and we'll end up right on the other side of that cut-off, similar to this past summer's two-man draft. I pretty much guarantee that a trade would've got done if we had the second pick instead of the third pick, let alone the first pick.

Then you're irrationally worried.  The Nets will have a bottom 3 record, and likely bottom 2, by the deadline.  No more than 13 wins by that point.

Also, that two-player draft stuff is also nonsense.  Brown already looks ahead of Ingram.

Sure, now, but that was the overwhelming impression of that draft, i.e. that it was a two-person draft.

But I agree. I wasn't very high on Ingram at all, and I thought Simmons was the only one who stood out over the rest, though he still had his question marks.

I obviously wanted to trade the pick first, but I'm happy with Brown. I thought 2-8 was pretty much a wash potential-wise. I'm still upset that we didn't try and trade with Sacramento for number 8 and Chriss, though, especially at that price. Chriss and Brown would've made a very, very dynamic and athletic wing duo moving forward.

And I don't expect us to trade the pick at the deadline, either. There's still too much risk involved with where it lands in the lottery that I doubt any team really takes that chance, unless they're really wanting to finish tanking the rest of the season for their own pick, too.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-25, #1 on 1/2)
Post by: max215 on January 04, 2017, 11:26:14 PM
https://twitter.com/MiamiHEAT/status/816827216256323589?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

Not good news for the Brooklyn pick. Winslow likely out for the rest of season after shoulder surgery.

With Riley's virtual admission that they'll be tanking the rest of the year, this Winslow injury will just make it easier for them.

They're the third worst record in the league right now at 10-26. Brooklyn is at 8-25 at the moment. I worry about them down the stretch. I think Philly should stay slightly ahead of Brooklyn for most of the season, especially after Simmons comes back. But I could see the Heat rivaling the Nets for futility at the end of the season, especially if they trade off Dragic.

I'm not worried at all. Not only are the Nets terrible, but this draft is ludicrously deep. All we need is a top-7 pick.

I'm more worried about the trade value of it. If we have any chance of trading it before the deadline, we'd need them to be leading the tankathon race, or at least right there close to it.

I'm also afraid that as the college season goes on there will be a clear consensus cut-off, and we'll end up right on the other side of that cut-off, similar to this past summer's two-man draft. I pretty much guarantee that a trade would've got done if we had the second pick instead of the third pick, let alone the first pick.

Ughhh, I'm becoming more and more convinced that trading the '17 Pick would be a monumental mistake.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-25, #1 on 1/2)
Post by: Monkhouse on January 04, 2017, 11:27:18 PM
If we get the first round pick, I see Ainge trading it for a superstar.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-25, #1 on 1/2)
Post by: jpotter33 on January 04, 2017, 11:28:27 PM
Boy, I'm really glad that Miami matched that Tyler Johnson contract. With his shooting stroke he would've really helped Brooklyn with their high volume of threes that they take.

EDIT: Miami up 10 in Sacramento with 2:30 to go in the first half.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-25, #1 on 1/2)
Post by: GratefulCs on January 04, 2017, 11:30:01 PM
If we get the first round pick, I see Ainge trading it for a superstar.
we're definitely getting a first round pick  ;)
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-25, #1 on 1/2)
Post by: jpotter33 on January 04, 2017, 11:32:38 PM
If we get the first round pick, I see Ainge trading it for a superstar.

Yeah, I can't imagine us keeping it, especially the number one pick. There's so much allure and hyperbole surrounding these players and prospects around the draft that the number one pick is absolutely worth way more than its value. And with how much allure it has, we could get a Boogie/Butler/George type without adding hardly anything else to it, similar to the Love deal.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-25, #1 on 1/2)
Post by: Monkhouse on January 04, 2017, 11:36:36 PM
If we get the first round pick, I see Ainge trading it for a superstar.

Yeah, I can't imagine us keeping it, especially the number one pick. There's so much allure and hyperbole surrounding these players and prospects around the draft that the number one pick is absolutely worth way more than its value. And with how much allure it has, we could get a Boogie/Butler/George type without adding hardly anything else to it, similar to the Love deal.


I do whatever it takes to get Boogie.

All we need is a floor stretching, and big man that can score inside and rebound.

Who do you choose? Boogie, Butler, or George?
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-25, #1 on 1/2)
Post by: max215 on January 04, 2017, 11:46:44 PM
If we get the first round pick, I see Ainge trading it for a superstar.

Yeah, I can't imagine us keeping it, especially the number one pick. There's so much allure and hyperbole surrounding these players and prospects around the draft that the number one pick is absolutely worth way more than its value. And with how much allure it has, we could get a Boogie/Butler/George type without adding hardly anything else to it, similar to the Love deal.

Would you rather have 14 years of Fultz or 1 year of Boogie? Of course, it's not quite that simple, but the new CBA highly incentivizes drafting your own talent.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-25, #1 on 1/2)
Post by: saltlover on January 05, 2017, 12:01:44 AM
If we get the first round pick, I see Ainge trading it for a superstar.

Yeah, I can't imagine us keeping it, especially the number one pick. There's so much allure and hyperbole surrounding these players and prospects around the draft that the number one pick is absolutely worth way more than its value. And with how much allure it has, we could get a Boogie/Butler/George type without adding hardly anything else to it, similar to the Love deal.

Would you rather have 14 years of Fultz or 1 year of Boogie? Of course, it's not quite that simple, but the new CBA highly incentivizes drafting your own talent.

That is not what the new CBA does.  People really need to calm down over this.  Furthermore, the new CBA will expire before any 2017 draftee has a chance to be eligible for the special designated veteran max deal.  So you're really putting the cart before the horse in this instance.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-25, #1 on 1/2)
Post by: clevelandceltic on January 05, 2017, 12:06:04 AM
However it does provide incentives for players to stay where they are so that they can sign for the designated max if they are eligible.

If we get the first round pick, I see Ainge trading it for a superstar.

Yeah, I can't imagine us keeping it, especially the number one pick. There's so much allure and hyperbole surrounding these players and prospects around the draft that the number one pick is absolutely worth way more than its value. And with how much allure it has, we could get a Boogie/Butler/George type without adding hardly anything else to it, similar to the Love deal.

Would you rather have 14 years of Fultz or 1 year of Boogie? Of course, it's not quite that simple, but the new CBA highly incentivizes drafting your own talent.

That is not what the new CBA does.  People really need to calm down over this.  Furthermore, the new CBA will expire before any 2017 draftee has a chance to be eligible for the special designated veteran max deal.  So you're really putting the cart before the horse in this instance.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-25, #1 on 1/2)
Post by: jpotter33 on January 05, 2017, 12:14:19 AM
If we get the first round pick, I see Ainge trading it for a superstar.

Yeah, I can't imagine us keeping it, especially the number one pick. There's so much allure and hyperbole surrounding these players and prospects around the draft that the number one pick is absolutely worth way more than its value. And with how much allure it has, we could get a Boogie/Butler/George type without adding hardly anything else to it, similar to the Love deal.

Would you rather have 14 years of Fultz or 1 year of Boogie? Of course, it's not quite that simple, but the new CBA highly incentivizes drafting your own talent.

Well, it'd be 5 years of Boogie, not one, because he's not getting traded without any assurances, let alone if it's this summer and the possibility of an extend-and-trade is there.

So probably Boogie, if I'm going to be honest, because right now teams simply don't have an answer for him. The top 3 teams in the league (GS, CLE, SAS) literally have 0 answer for someone like Boogie, and the closest they come is 6'9" 238 lbs Tristan Thompson for 6'11" 270 lbs Demarcus Cousins. And we've all seen how effective going big is against the new small-ball trend.

Boogie is a legit MVP contender in Boston, which is something that you can't say about Fultz for quite some time, if ever.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-25, #1 on 1/2)
Post by: max215 on January 05, 2017, 12:19:16 AM
If we get the first round pick, I see Ainge trading it for a superstar.

Yeah, I can't imagine us keeping it, especially the number one pick. There's so much allure and hyperbole surrounding these players and prospects around the draft that the number one pick is absolutely worth way more than its value. And with how much allure it has, we could get a Boogie/Butler/George type without adding hardly anything else to it, similar to the Love deal.

Would you rather have 14 years of Fultz or 1 year of Boogie? Of course, it's not quite that simple, but the new CBA highly incentivizes drafting your own talent.

That is not what the new CBA does.  People really need to calm down over this.  Furthermore, the new CBA will expire before any 2017 draftee has a chance to be eligible for the special designated veteran max deal.  So you're really putting the cart before the horse in this instance.

Well, if Fultz ends up hitting his ceiling he'd have to be willing to turn down a ridiculous amount of money to leave. But you're right, it's a moot point given that the CBA is a 7 year agreement and Fultz wouldn't be eligible for 8 years. Ultimately, my point about control still stands, though. You're effectively guaranteed 9 years of a star draftee; you're guaranteed 1 year of Boogie.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-25, #1 on 1/2)
Post by: green_bballers13 on January 05, 2017, 12:21:39 AM
If we get the first round pick, I see Ainge trading it for a superstar.

Yeah, I can't imagine us keeping it, especially the number one pick. There's so much allure and hyperbole surrounding these players and prospects around the draft that the number one pick is absolutely worth way more than its value. And with how much allure it has, we could get a Boogie/Butler/George type without adding hardly anything else to it, similar to the Love deal.

Would you rather have 14 years of Fultz or 1 year of Boogie? Of course, it's not quite that simple, but the new CBA highly incentivizes drafting your own talent.

Well, it'd be 5 years of Boogie, not one, because he's not getting traded without any assurances, let alone if it's this summer and the possibility of an extend-and-trade is there.

So probably Boogie, if I'm going to be honest, because right now teams simply don't have an answer for him. The top 3 teams in the league (GS, CLE, SAS) literally have 0 answer for someone like Boogie, and the closest they come is 6'9" 238 lbs Tristan Thompson for 6'11" 270 lbs Demarcus Cousins. And we've all seen how effective going big is against the new small-ball trend.

Boogie is a legit MVP contender in Boston, which is something that you can't say about Fultz for quite some time, if ever.

I agree that I like Boogie. Like Durant, he should and will be able to pick which team he signs with next. I don't think a short term trade will affect his decision.

If he wants to sign in Boston, he will. If he wants to sign in LA, he will. The choice will be his.

Knowing this, I don't see a reason to trade for him. In fact, wouldn't Boogie rather go to a team with 3 top picks under the age of 21 who might eventually become stars? Trading such picks doesn't make Boston more enticing for the big man.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-25, #1 on 1/2)
Post by: saltlover on January 05, 2017, 12:27:51 AM
If we get the first round pick, I see Ainge trading it for a superstar.

Yeah, I can't imagine us keeping it, especially the number one pick. There's so much allure and hyperbole surrounding these players and prospects around the draft that the number one pick is absolutely worth way more than its value. And with how much allure it has, we could get a Boogie/Butler/George type without adding hardly anything else to it, similar to the Love deal.

Would you rather have 14 years of Fultz or 1 year of Boogie? Of course, it's not quite that simple, but the new CBA highly incentivizes drafting your own talent.

Well, it'd be 5 years of Boogie, not one, because he's not getting traded without any assurances, let alone if it's this summer and the possibility of an extend-and-trade is there.

So probably Boogie, if I'm going to be honest, because right now teams simply don't have an answer for him. The top 3 teams in the league (GS, CLE, SAS) literally have 0 answer for someone like Boogie, and the closest they come is 6'9" 238 lbs Tristan Thompson for 6'11" 270 lbs Demarcus Cousins. And we've all seen how effective going big is against the new small-ball trend.

Boogie is a legit MVP contender in Boston, which is something that you can't say about Fultz for quite some time, if ever.

I agree that I like Boogie. Like Durant, he should and will be able to pick which team he signs with next. I don't think a short term trade will affect his decision.

If he wants to sign in Boston, he will. If he wants to sign in LA, he will. The choice will be his.

Knowing this, I don't see a reason to trade for him. In fact, wouldn't Boogie rather go to a team with 3 top picks under the age of 21 who might eventually become stars? Trading such picks doesn't make Boston more enticing for the big man.

It is highly unlikely we will have the cap room to sign Boogie in 2018 when he becomes a free agent.  It's been nice having cap room, but all good things come to an end.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-25, #1 on 1/2)
Post by: max215 on January 05, 2017, 12:27:53 AM
If we get the first round pick, I see Ainge trading it for a superstar.

Yeah, I can't imagine us keeping it, especially the number one pick. There's so much allure and hyperbole surrounding these players and prospects around the draft that the number one pick is absolutely worth way more than its value. And with how much allure it has, we could get a Boogie/Butler/George type without adding hardly anything else to it, similar to the Love deal.

Would you rather have 14 years of Fultz or 1 year of Boogie? Of course, it's not quite that simple, but the new CBA highly incentivizes drafting your own talent.

Well, it'd be 5 years of Boogie, not one, because he's not getting traded without any assurances, let alone if it's this summer and the possibility of an extend-and-trade is there.

So probably Boogie, if I'm going to be honest, because right now teams simply don't have an answer for him. The top 3 teams in the league (GS, CLE, SAS) literally have 0 answer for someone like Boogie, and the closest they come is 6'9" 238 lbs Tristan Thompson for 6'11" 270 lbs Demarcus Cousins. And we've all seen how effective going big is against the new small-ball trend.

Boogie is a legit MVP contender in Boston, which is something that you can't say about Fultz for quite some time, if ever.

I'm totally on board with Boogie as a talent, and that MVP line is one I've used many a time, but let's not pretend he doesn't bring tremendous risk with him. I'm just wary of giving up a shot at a dynasty for 3-5 years of trying to overcome the Warriors.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-25, #1 on 1/2)
Post by: saltlover on January 05, 2017, 12:39:03 AM
Lol, Kings go on a 23-2 run vs. Miami, turning a 19-point deficit into a 2-point lead in under 5 minutes of game action.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-25, #1 on 1/2)
Post by: MattyIce on January 05, 2017, 12:47:04 AM
Lol, Kings go on a 23-2 run vs. Miami, turning a 19-point deficit into a 2-point lead in under 5 minutes of game action.

all without boogie , go heat !
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-25, #1 on 1/2)
Post by: jpotter33 on January 05, 2017, 12:55:11 AM
Miami is doing everything it can to give this game away.  ::)
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-25, #1 on 1/2)
Post by: jpotter33 on January 05, 2017, 12:59:53 AM
Miami is doing everything it can to give this game away.  ::)

Tyler Johnson connects on the ugliest go-ahead possession I've ever seen!
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-25, #1 on 1/2)
Post by: MattyIce on January 05, 2017, 01:01:01 AM
Miami is doing everything it can to give this game away.  ::)

Tyler Johnson connects on the ugliest go-ahead possession I've ever seen!

anddd 1! lol
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-25, #1 on 1/2)
Post by: jpotter33 on January 05, 2017, 01:14:15 AM
Thanks Miami! That's a 3 win cushion on Brooklyn now!
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-25, #1 on 1/2)
Post by: Adelaide Celt on January 05, 2017, 01:23:09 AM
Miami won with a starting front court of Willie Reed, Luke Babbitt and Rodney McGruder  :o
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-25, #1 on 1/2)
Post by: libermaniac on January 05, 2017, 02:57:14 AM
Thursday's Nets watch:

Brooklyn at Indiana
Phoenix at Dallas (both 11 win teams)

This is getting really fun.  I think it should be mandatory for Danny to trade for another team's pick EVERY year.  That way I have 2 favorite teams ... twice the fun.  ;)
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-25, #1 on 1/2)
Post by: MattyIce on January 05, 2017, 03:01:44 AM
not happy they play miami 3 times before 2/10
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-25, #1 on 1/2)
Post by: jpotter33 on January 05, 2017, 03:11:38 AM
Thursday's Nets watch:

Brooklyn at Indiana
Phoenix at Dallas (both 11 win teams)

This is getting really fun.  I think it should be mandatory for Danny to trade for another team's pick EVERY year.  That way I have 2 favorite teams ... twice the fun.  ;)

This is true. It was really fun (and nerve-wracking) at the end of last season, too. I want to trade the pick for a star, but I can't deny that between the C's and the Nets pick watch (along with other potential trade target games), I'm watching good, entertaining basketball that I have a stake in almost every night.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-25, #1 on 1/2)
Post by: Adelaide Celt on January 05, 2017, 10:17:01 AM
not happy they play miami 3 times before 2/10

Maybe it's best to play them before then with the trade deadline on Feb 23rd and Whiteside due back soon.

RHJ out with a hip injury for the Pacers game, assume no Lin either.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-25, #1 on 1/2)
Post by: mef730 on January 05, 2017, 10:36:48 AM
not happy they play miami 3 times before 2/10

Maybe it's best to play them before then with the trade deadline on Feb 23rd and Whiteside due back soon.

RHJ out with a hip injury for the Pacers game, assume no Lin either.

Followed by a game against Cleveland tomorrow night. Let's hope KLove's tummy is feeling better.

Mike
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-25, #1 on 1/2)
Post by: saltlover on January 05, 2017, 10:37:57 AM
not happy they play miami 3 times before 2/10

Maybe it's best to play them before then with the trade deadline on Feb 23rd and Whiteside due back soon.

RHJ out with a hip injury for the Pacers game, assume no Lin either.

Followed by a game against Cleveland tomorrow night. Let's hope KLove's tummy is feeling better.

Mike

I more hope that LeBron doesn't decide to rest his ankle.  Cavs can lose to anyone when he's not playing.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-25, #1 on 1/2)
Post by: libermaniac on January 05, 2017, 07:59:26 PM
What do you know, Nets down 1 late in the first half at Indy.  Never any stress free games. LOL
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-25, #1 on 1/2)
Post by: celticsclay on January 05, 2017, 08:07:52 PM
What do you know, Nets down 1 late in the first half at Indy.  Never any stress free games. LOL

Pacers are pretty mediocre this year, that being said they (the pacers) are up 7 at the half. If you worry every time they are in a close game you will drive yourself crazy! They are decent at hanging around usually fade hard in the second half and 4th quarter. Part of this is probably their style of play. Harder to launch tons of 3's at a decent percentage when the legs are dead.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-25, #1 on 1/2)
Post by: tankcity! on January 05, 2017, 08:35:18 PM
Paul George and Teague taking care of business.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-25, #1 on 1/2)
Post by: Quetzalcoatl on January 05, 2017, 08:39:49 PM
This game will forever prevent me from declaring the Nets have lost midgame on CBlog: http://www.netsdaily.com/2016/2/8/10943836/joe-johnson-hits-game-winner-nets-win-105-104

But this game is going very well, let's just say that.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-25, #1 on 1/2)
Post by: libermaniac on January 05, 2017, 11:53:15 PM
What do you know, Nets down 1 late in the first half at Indy.  Never any stress free games. LOL

Pacers are pretty mediocre this year, that being said they (the pacers) are up 7 at the half. If you worry every time they are in a close game you will drive yourself crazy! They are decent at hanging around usually fade hard in the second half and 4th quarter. Part of this is probably their style of play. Harder to launch tons of 3's at a decent percentage when the legs are dead.
My head agrees with you. My heart just can't help but follow each game closely and stress just a bit if an expected loss for the Nets isn't in the bag. I'm a glutton for punishment.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-26, #1 on 1/5)
Post by: Adelaide Celt on January 05, 2017, 11:58:29 PM
Glad the Nets got their routine loss today. A little concerned about the Cavs game tomorrow with LeBron and Love having illness problems and Kyrie missing the last few games with a hamstring injury.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-26, #1 on 1/5)
Post by: mef730 on January 06, 2017, 01:37:01 PM
Glad the Nets got their routine loss today. A little concerned about the Cavs game tomorrow with LeBron and Love having illness problems and Kyrie missing the last few games with a hamstring injury.

Looks like everyone playing for the Cavs, RHJ and Lin questionable for BKN. So far, so good.

There are 14 remaining games in January, but it looks like an uphill battle for the Nets.

Two games against CLE, two against Toronto, Houston, San Antonio. That's probably six losses.

Home and Home against NO and Miami. New Orleans is finally healthy. Maybe these four are 1-3.

Home against Philly, home against Atlanta, at Charlotte, at Minnesota are the remainders. I'm assuming 2-2.

Finally, there is room for the one "swing" game, i.e., an unexpected win. For what it's worth, the Minnesota game is the second night of a back-to-back (as are @Charlotte and @Toronto). My official prediction, which I reserve the right to change at any time, is 3-11 or 4-10. Let's split the difference and call it 3.5-10.5, a .250 winning percentage for the remainder of the month, essentially in-line with their current .235.

Mike

Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-26, #1 on 1/5)
Post by: footey on January 06, 2017, 01:57:18 PM
Glad the Nets got their routine loss today. A little concerned about the Cavs game tomorrow with LeBron and Love having illness problems and Kyrie missing the last few games with a hamstring injury.

Looks like everyone playing for the Cavs, RHJ and Lin questionable for BKN. So far, so good.

There are 14 remaining games in January, but it looks like an uphill battle for the Nets.

Two games against CLE, two against Toronto, Houston, San Antonio. That's probably six losses.

Home and Home against NO and Miami. New Orleans is finally healthy. Maybe these four are 1-3.

Home against Philly, home against Atlanta, at Charlotte, at Minnesota are the remainders. I'm assuming 2-2.

Finally, there is room for the one "swing" game, i.e., an unexpected win. For what it's worth, the Minnesota game is the second night of a back-to-back (as are @Charlotte and @Toronto). My official prediction, which I reserve the right to change at any time, is 3-11 or 4-10. Let's split the difference and call it 3.5-10.5, a .250 winning percentage for the remainder of the month, essentially in-line with their current .235.

Mike

TP for the projected losses, Mike!!
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-26, #1 on 1/5)
Post by: CelticGuardian on January 06, 2017, 03:13:21 PM
you guys think Miami could challenge Nets for that #1 slot? Idk how they would manage that besides faking injuries to Dragic and Whiteside, their wings are abysmal outside of Tyler Johnson, who's just solid. I think Sixers are trying to win games and see a need to put veterans around what's going to be 8 lotto pick players(if you count Stauskas) by 2018.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-26, #1 on 1/5)
Post by: celticsclay on January 06, 2017, 03:33:04 PM
you guys think Miami could challenge Nets for that #1 slot? Idk how they would manage that besides faking injuries to Dragic and Whiteside, their wings are abysmal outside of Tyler Johnson, who's just solid. I think Sixers are trying to win games and see a need to put veterans around what's going to be 8 lotto pick players(if you count Stauskas) by 2018.

Anything is possible, especially with Winslow out who is a starting calibar player and good defensively. However, it is not insignificant that the Heat already have a 3 win lead on them. 3 wins isn't huge when you are talking about teams fighting for playoff seeds and they are winning 45-50 games. However we are more than two months into the season and the Nets have 8, meaning it could be before the end of January before they get more than 11 wins and Miami will have plenty of chances to pick up wins during that period. The Heat play Brooklyn twice the end of this month so that will be significant.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-26, #1 on 1/5)
Post by: mef730 on January 06, 2017, 03:42:19 PM
you guys think Miami could challenge Nets for that #1 slot? Idk how they would manage that besides faking injuries to Dragic and Whiteside, their wings are abysmal outside of Tyler Johnson, who's just solid. I think Sixers are trying to win games and see a need to put veterans around what's going to be 8 lotto pick players(if you count Stauskas) by 2018.

Anything is possible, especially with Winslow out who is a starting calibar player and good defensively. However, it is not insignificant that the Heat already have a 3 win lead on them. 3 wins isn't huge when you are talking about teams fighting for playoff seeds and they are winning 45-50 games. However we are more than two months into the season and the Nets have 8, meaning it could be before the end of January before they get more than 11 wins and Miami will have plenty of chances to pick up wins during that period. The Heat play Brooklyn twice the end of this month so that will be significant.

Definitely but, as you point out, it would take some machinations that aren't necessary with some of the other teams that could "challenge," e.g., Phoenix. Phoenix just sucks. Philly kind of sucks. Miami has some talent, but that talent would need to go down for an extended time.

I think Dallas is over the hump. I think Minnesota is over the hump. I even think that the Lakers (five games ahead of BKN) are going to find it tough to catch them. To me, it's a 3-way race and, with no injuries, BKN's two best players are still Brook and Lin. When BrookLin are Brooklyn's two best players, they start off with a natural advantage for last place.

Mike

Mike
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-26, #1 on 1/5)
Post by: libermaniac on January 06, 2017, 08:40:25 PM
Brooklyn losing by 14 to Cleveland and the Sixers are up 11 at halftime!  :D

Oh wait, they're beating the C's. Doh. So confusing.  ;)
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-26, #1 on 1/5)
Post by: SCeltic34 on January 06, 2017, 08:57:33 PM
Brooklyn's D-League team, the Long Island Nets, have acquired RJ Hunter.  The Nets basically got a 1st rounder from Boston for free if you want to think about it that way.  Though really what they're getting is a D-League caliber player who can't play in the NBA because of his athletic shortcomings and inability to shoot and defend.

http://longisland.dleague.nba.com/news/long-island-nets-acquire-r-j-hunter/ (http://longisland.dleague.nba.com/news/long-island-nets-acquire-r-j-hunter/)
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-26, #1 on 1/5)
Post by: SHAQATTACK on January 06, 2017, 09:15:39 PM
Celtics losing to Philly

Go Celtic Nets
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-26, #1 on 1/5)
Post by: Ogaju on January 06, 2017, 10:07:23 PM
embrace the tank.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-26, #1 on 1/5)
Post by: liam on January 06, 2017, 10:20:41 PM
embrace the tank.

That's a BIG game Sunday for the tank!
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-27, #1 on 1/6)
Post by: mef730 on January 07, 2017, 09:53:13 PM
No idea who this is or how reliable it is, but ESPN picked it up. BKN asking for two firsts for Lopez. I guess that you can ask for anything you want...

Minnesota beating Utah by 10 with 11 minutes to go in the fourth, but there's still a chance that Minnesota could win this one, anyway.

Mike
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-27, #1 on 1/6)
Post by: jpotter33 on January 07, 2017, 09:53:22 PM
TWolves up 11 on the Jazz with 10 minutes to go, and Mavs in a close one down 3 to the Hawks at halftime.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-27, #1 on 1/6)
Post by: Bucketgetter on January 07, 2017, 10:08:00 PM
Did anyone see that Towns putback??
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-27, #1 on 1/6)
Post by: mr. dee on January 07, 2017, 10:18:13 PM
TOR taking pages from GSW yesterday. LOL
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-27, #1 on 1/6)
Post by: jpotter33 on January 07, 2017, 10:41:32 PM
LOL all that young talent, and Minny still sucks. Epic meltdown at the end. They gave up an 11-0 run to end up losing the game by two.

They should comfortably stay ahead of the Nets, but it still would've been nice to get a win for them to increase their lead over the Nets.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-27, #1 on 1/6)
Post by: CroCorvus on January 07, 2017, 10:49:58 PM
Minny is playing horrible and it's not all on that weak bench...
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-27, #1 on 1/6)
Post by: jdz101 on January 07, 2017, 10:52:49 PM
LOL all that young talent, and Minny still sucks. Epic meltdown at the end. They gave up an 11-0 run to end up losing the game by two.

They should comfortably stay ahead of the Nets, but it still would've been nice to get a win for them to increase their lead over the Nets.

With all that athleticism and giant vertical, Wiggins sure doesn't grab many rebounds or block shots/play defense.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-27, #1 on 1/6)
Post by: SHAQATTACK on January 07, 2017, 11:00:19 PM
LOL all that young talent, and Minny still sucks. Epic meltdown at the end. They gave up an 11-0 run to end up losing the game by two.

They should comfortably stay ahead of the Nets, but it still would've been nice to get a win for them to increase their lead over the Nets.

With all that athleticism and giant vertical, Wiggins sure doesn't grab many rebounds or block shots/play defense.

He has a reiatively small frame ,   No rugged type ......  I think brown has a better frame to build on than Wiggins .
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-27, #1 on 1/6)
Post by: moiso on January 07, 2017, 11:00:48 PM
LOL all that young talent, and Minny still sucks. Epic meltdown at the end. They gave up an 11-0 run to end up losing the game by two.

They should comfortably stay ahead of the Nets, but it still would've been nice to get a win for them to increase their lead over the Nets.

With all that athleticism and giant vertical, Wiggins sure doesn't grab many rebounds or block shots/play defense.
Nope.  He's not that good.  Isn't someone like Avery Bradley much better than Wiggins?  I think Bradley would help a team win games a lot more a guy like Wiggins.  By the way Wiggins is the premium brand Ricky Davis, not Jimmy Butler.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-27, #1 on 1/6)
Post by: libermaniac on January 07, 2017, 11:03:39 PM
Minny is just too young with no veteran leadership.  LaVine was stupid waiting for the last shot when you are down 2.  He should get a shot up quickly, so if he misses there is time to foul and hope he misses 1 of 2 so you get one last chance at a 3.  If you feel the need to ISO and take it down to no time, AT LEAST, shoot a 3 so you can win it right there.  Just a young team mistake.  That's why Minny sucks now. 

Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-27, #1 on 1/6)
Post by: jdz101 on January 07, 2017, 11:05:29 PM
LOL all that young talent, and Minny still sucks. Epic meltdown at the end. They gave up an 11-0 run to end up losing the game by two.

They should comfortably stay ahead of the Nets, but it still would've been nice to get a win for them to increase their lead over the Nets.

With all that athleticism and giant vertical, Wiggins sure doesn't grab many rebounds or block shots/play defense.
Nope.  He's not that good.  Isn't someone like Avery Bradley much better than Wiggins?  I think Bradley would help a team win games a lot more a guy like Wiggins.  By the way Wiggins is the premium brand Ricky Davis, not Jimmy Butler.

Yeah calling Butler premium brand Ricky Davis is EXTREMELY rough on Jimmy.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-27, #1 on 1/6)
Post by: MattyIce on January 08, 2017, 03:59:21 AM
it's bad enough when every win by the Nets ruins my night, its worse going to sleep tonight knowing I will wake to possibly having my day and night ruined by a very early game, i may just wake up, turn on the tv and immediately be p---ed:(
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-27, #1 on 1/6)
Post by: Quetzalcoatl on January 08, 2017, 12:26:31 PM
Anyone else watching this game?  Nerlens cannot guard Brook to save his life
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-27, #1 on 1/6)
Post by: Ilikesports17 on January 08, 2017, 12:30:57 PM
Anyone else watching this game?  Nerlens cannot guard Brook to save his life
I just scrolled through the game thread on Liberty Ballers and found a few gems.

Quote
nerlens is the best player ever and Edited.  Profanity and masked profanity are against forum rules and may result in discipline. celticsblog

Quote
A Celtics message board was talking about getting Nerlens for Rozier and Tyler Zeller this morning LOL

I would burn down Jerry Colangelos nursing Home if BC makes that trade

Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-27, #1 on 1/6)
Post by: saltlover on January 08, 2017, 12:36:33 PM
Anyone else watching this game?  Nerlens cannot guard Brook to save his life

I assume it's not nationally televised.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-27, #1 on 1/6)
Post by: Quetzalcoatl on January 08, 2017, 12:49:02 PM
Anyone else watching this game?  Nerlens cannot guard Brook to save his life
I just scrolled through the game thread on Liberty Ballers and found a few gems.

Quote
nerlens is the best player ever and **** celticsblog

Quote
A Celtics message board was talking about getting Nerlens for Rozier and Tyler Zeller this morning LOL

I would burn down Jerry Colangelos nursing Home if BC makes that trade

Ha they're so salty.  Nerlens is the 5th best player on the second worst team in the NBA.  The only reason they don't want Rozier is that they might actually win a couple extra games
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-27, #1 on 1/6)
Post by: Ilikesports17 on January 08, 2017, 01:06:36 PM
Lopez bullying Noel.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-27, #1 on 1/6)
Post by: hpantazo on January 08, 2017, 01:07:31 PM
Lopez bullying Noel.

If he gets abused so easily by guys like Lopez then I'm glad Ainge isn't trading for him as our defensive anchor.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-27, #1 on 1/6)
Post by: Ilikesports17 on January 08, 2017, 01:10:19 PM
Lopez bullying Noel.

If he gets abused so easily by guys like Lopez then I'm glad Ainge isn't trading for him as our defensive anchor.
he is weak, so he gets bullied in the post, but as a weak side shot blocker and in pick and roll he is really quite good.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-27, #1 on 1/6)
Post by: SCeltic34 on January 08, 2017, 02:25:46 PM
Sixers completely outplaying the Nets in the 2nd half.  Turnovers and problems on the defensive end continue to be their primary issues.

I had assumed that this would be a Nets victory since they play much, much better at home.  This is a pleasant surprise to say the least.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-27, #1 on 1/6)
Post by: CroCorvus on January 08, 2017, 02:25:59 PM
Philly up by 10 one minute till the end  ;D
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-27, #1 on 1/6)
Post by: Denis998 on January 08, 2017, 02:27:09 PM
huge win for philly today :D
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-27, #1 on 1/6)
Post by: jpotter33 on January 08, 2017, 02:29:23 PM
Anyone else watching this game?  Nerlens cannot guard Brook to save his life
I just scrolled through the game thread on Liberty Ballers and found a few gems.

Quote
nerlens is the best player ever and **** celticsblog

Quote
A Celtics message board was talking about getting Nerlens for Rozier and Tyler Zeller this morning LOL

I would burn down Jerry Colangelos nursing Home if BC makes that trade

Ha they're so salty.  Nerlens is the 5th best player on the second worst team in the NBA.  The only reason they don't want Rozier is that they might actually win a couple extra games

Most Sixers fans on LB are delusional tankers. A lot of them truly believe they can get the 2017 Nets pick for Noel lol
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-27, #1 on 1/6)
Post by: knuckleballer on January 08, 2017, 02:30:34 PM
The Nets now have a 2 1/2 game lead.  Excellent.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-27, #1 on 1/6)
Post by: max215 on January 08, 2017, 02:31:06 PM
And game! Big win!!!
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-27, #1 on 1/6)
Post by: TheGreenMonster on January 08, 2017, 02:31:29 PM
Nets lose...yaldy
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-27, #1 on 1/6)
Post by: oldtype on January 08, 2017, 02:39:44 PM
This thing is going to be a ridiculously valuable trade chip.  We've never actually had a draft pick in the first tier of any given draft throughout this rebuild.  Tier 1 was 3 players deep in 2014, we had #6.  Tier 1 was 2 players deep in 2016, we had #3.

This year Tier 1 could be anywhere from 3~5 players.  We could have #1,
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-27, #1 on 1/6)
Post by: Vox_Populi on January 08, 2017, 02:43:57 PM
Brooklyn are even worse than they were last season. Impressive.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-27, #1 on 1/6)
Post by: hpantazo on January 08, 2017, 02:49:21 PM
This thing is going to be a ridiculously valuable trade chip.  We've never actually had a draft pick in the first tier of any given draft throughout this rebuild.  Tier 1 was 3 players deep in 2014, we had #6.  Tier 1 was 2 players deep in 2016, we had #3.

This year Tier 1 could be anywhere from 3~5 players.  We could have #1,

Especially when the projected top 3 are point guards and we already have a young all-star point guard. Edited.  Profanity and masked profanity are against forum rules and may result in discipline.s getting real.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-27, #1 on 1/6)
Post by: mef730 on January 08, 2017, 02:57:36 PM
Cheesesteaks for everyone! Okay, can't do that, so we'll go with TPs.

Mike
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-27, #1 on 1/6)
Post by: Bostoncelticsforlife7 on January 08, 2017, 03:05:34 PM
Nice to see our Brooklyn Celtics came through in the clutch and we were able to pull out this huge win
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-27, #1 on 1/6)
Post by: mef730 on January 08, 2017, 03:14:20 PM
it's bad enough when every win by the Nets ruins my night, its worse going to sleep tonight knowing I will wake to possibly having my day and night ruined by a very early game, i may just wake up, turn on the tv and immediately be p---ed:(

Hopefully, this will make you feel a bit better: Let's call the current 11-win teams (Dallas, Miami, Minnesota, Phoenix) the "cohort." Over the next ten games, Dallas has four against other "cohort" teams, Minnesota has three, Phoenix has two and Miami has one. In other words, somebody has to win those games and push their win totals up.

Mike
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-27, #1 on 1/6)
Post by: RAAAAAAAANDY on January 08, 2017, 03:27:14 PM
it's bad enough when every win by the Nets ruins my night, its worse going to sleep tonight knowing I will wake to possibly having my day and night ruined by a very early game, i may just wake up, turn on the tv and immediately be p---ed:(

Hopefully, this will make you feel a bit better: Let's call the current 11-win teams (Dallas, Miami, Minnesota, Phoenix) the "cohort." Over the next ten games, Dallas has four against other "cohort" teams, Minnesota has three, Phoenix has two and Miami has one. In other words, somebody has to win those games and push their win totals up.

Mike

I don't see how the Nets aren't dead last by the end. They are soooooo bad.

Philly gets Simmons back in a month and they're already on like a 23-24 win pace(and getting better, 3-1 in their last 4). Dallas has Dirk, Barnes, and a few other pieces that aren't going anywhere but should be good enough to stave off a collapse. Nugs are a lot better given their rotation has been worked out a bit. Minny just has more talent than Brooklyn. LAL has banked a lot of wins early even if they are god awful. Phoenix has some talent, it doesn't really fit and they play a ton of young guys but I can't imagine them being worse than the disaster up in BKN.

The only team that could get there barring some insane rash of injuries is Miami because Pat Riley will be shameless in his role as tank commander.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-27, #1 on 1/6)
Post by: The One on January 08, 2017, 03:49:21 PM
I am thrilled about the way the Nets have panned out...but we have to remember this:

Worst record chances:

1st pick - 25%
2nd pick - 21.5%
3rd pick - 17.8%
4th pick - 35.7%


Again, I'm ecstatic about the season's development ...just saying...we should be prepared.


Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-27, #1 on 1/6)
Post by: 86MaxwellSmart on January 08, 2017, 03:52:34 PM
I will be spending the next few months, fretting a Nets 3 game win streak.....aaarrgghh.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-27, #1 on 1/6)
Post by: Ilikesports17 on January 08, 2017, 03:53:12 PM
I am thrilled about the way the Nets have panned out...but we have to remember this:

Worst record chances:

1st pick - 25%
2nd pick - 21.5%
3rd pick - 17.8%
4th pick - 35.7%


Again, I'm ecstatic about the season's development ...just saying...we should be prepared.
Anything in the top 5 and Im satisfied.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-27, #1 on 1/6)
Post by: The One on January 08, 2017, 03:57:46 PM
I am thrilled about the way the Nets have panned out...but we have to remember this:

Worst record chances:

1st pick - 25%
2nd pick - 21.5%
3rd pick - 17.8%
4th pick - 35.7%


Again, I'm ecstatic about the season's development ...just saying...we should be prepared.
Anything in the top 5 and Im satisfied.

Me too...a 50 win team plus a top 5 pick...sign me up.

Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-27, #1 on 1/6)
Post by: jpotter33 on January 08, 2017, 04:03:45 PM
Lol did anyone else see the Celtics tweets trolling the 76ers beating the Nets with #TrusttheProcess hashtags? lol

https://twitter.com/celticsblog/status/818168915499028480?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

https://twitter.com/Scott_Souza/status/818186225311948802?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-27, #1 on 1/6)
Post by: jambr380 on January 08, 2017, 04:06:11 PM
I am thrilled about the way the Nets have panned out...but we have to remember this:

Worst record chances:

1st pick - 25%
2nd pick - 21.5%
3rd pick - 17.8%
4th pick - 35.7%


Again, I'm ecstatic about the season's development ...just saying...we should be prepared.
Anything in the top 5 and Im satisfied.

Easy to say on the surface and I don't disagree with the overall concept of being satisfied with a top 5 pick; however, if the Nets finish last and we hear Adam Silver call the Cs name with the 4th pick, I think we will all be a little disappointed.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-27, #1 on 1/6)
Post by: Boris Badenov on January 08, 2017, 04:22:56 PM
Ordinarily for a team like this you'd be worried they take another cost-cutting team's bad contract (but decent player) off its hands.

I don't see that with the new cap, which has essentially made all existing contracts good deals. Does that seem right? Are there any vets who will be available at the deadline, that the Nets could get? (They are clearly in talent-acquisition mode, as the DoMo series of events shows.)

Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-27, #1 on 1/6)
Post by: 86MaxwellSmart on January 08, 2017, 04:27:19 PM
Really think Brook Lopez will be dealt by the deadline---The Nets need First Round Picks Desperately...I think they have no choice.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-27, #1 on 1/6)
Post by: mef730 on January 08, 2017, 04:29:47 PM
Really think Brook Lopez will be dealt by the deadline---The Nets need First Round Picks Desperately...I think they have no choice.

They'll have a mid-20s pick this year. ;)

Mike
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-27, #1 on 1/6)
Post by: max215 on January 08, 2017, 04:40:07 PM
I am thrilled about the way the Nets have panned out...but we have to remember this:

Worst record chances:

1st pick - 25%
2nd pick - 21.5%
3rd pick - 17.8%
4th pick - 35.7%


Again, I'm ecstatic about the season's development ...just saying...we should be prepared.
Anything in the top 5 and Im satisfied.

Easy to say on the surface and I don't disagree with the overall concept of being satisfied with a top 5 pick; however, if the Nets finish last and we hear Adam Silver call the Cs name with the 4th pick, I think we will all be a little disappointed.

It seems like this might be the best draft for that to happen during, though. With "no clear-cut #1," falling from #1 to #4 would likely be less catastrophic than in other years.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-27, #1 on 1/6)
Post by: oldtype on January 08, 2017, 04:41:07 PM
I think Fultz is pretty clear-cut as #1 right now.  He's the "Ben Simmons" of this year's draft.  There's a whole bunch of "Brandon Ingram"s after that.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-27, #1 on 1/6)
Post by: Neurotic Guy on January 08, 2017, 05:11:45 PM
Great developments as far as next year's draft goes.  I think the depth of the draft is giving perennial tankers the freedom to try to establish a winning (rather than tanking) culture.  The Sixers are looking good for 2 picks right now.  The Lakers and Sixers are starting to look like teams that think they can win games.  If this trend continues, then all is good -- Lakers won't get another #2 (of course I just assured that they will) and Philly may end up with 2 picks in the 7-12 range -- good for them, but not as good as it could have been.  I'd guess they'll try to trade up in that scenario. 

Nets are creating some cushion.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-27, #1 on 1/6)
Post by: JBcat on January 08, 2017, 05:38:39 PM
Great developments as far as next year's draft goes.  I think the depth of the draft is giving perennial tankers the freedom to try to establish a winning (rather than tanking) culture.  The Sixers are looking good for 2 picks right now.  The Lakers and Sixers are starting to look like teams that think they can win games.  If this trend continues, then all is good -- Lakers won't get another #2 (of course I just assured that they will) and Philly may end up with 2 picks in the 7-12 range -- good for them, but not as good as it could have been.  I'd guess they'll try to trade up in that scenario. 

Nets are creating some cushion.

I was going to mention it would be great to see Philly win enough games where they don't get a top 5 pick for the simple reason they are in our division.  I'd rather see us, Dallas, Phoenix, Minny, and even Miami get those top 5 picks.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-27, #1 on 1/6)
Post by: SCeltic34 on January 08, 2017, 05:40:56 PM
The Nets are currently on pace to win 18 games.  I'm going to assume that they'll pick up a few wins once Lin gets healthy, but it's doubtful that they win > 20 games this year since they'll either (1) trade Lopez by the deadline or (2) rest Lopez down the stretch of the season if they hang on to him.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-27, #1 on 1/6)
Post by: Neurotic Guy on January 08, 2017, 05:41:56 PM
Great developments as far as next year's draft goes.  I think the depth of the draft is giving perennial tankers the freedom to try to establish a winning (rather than tanking) culture.  The Sixers are looking good for 2 picks right now.  The Lakers and Sixers are starting to look like teams that think they can win games.  If this trend continues, then all is good -- Lakers won't get another #2 (of course I just assured that they will) and Philly may end up with 2 picks in the 7-12 range -- good for them, but not as good as it could have been.  I'd guess they'll try to trade up in that scenario. 

Nets are creating some cushion.

I was going to mention it would be great to see Philly win enough games where they don't get a top 5 pick for the simple reason they are in our division.  I'd rather see us, Dallas, Phoenix, Minny, and even Miami get those top 5 picks.

Not that it's highly meaningful, but we own Minny's 2nd rounder.  Be great to see that be 32.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-27, #1 on 1/6)
Post by: mef730 on January 08, 2017, 07:52:46 PM
What I learned today: I knew that we only had a 25% chance of getting the first pick even if the Nets are the worst team, but I didn't realize that our most likely position is 4th, which is a 36% chance. Ouch:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NBA_draft_lottery

Mike
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-27, #1 on 1/6)
Post by: Neurotic Guy on January 08, 2017, 07:56:02 PM
What I learned today: I knew that we only had a 25% chance of getting the first pick even if the Nets are the worst team, but I didn't realize that our most likely position is 4th, which is a 36% chance. Ouch:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NBA_draft_lottery

Mike

Sort of.  This would mean there is a 64% chance the C's would get top 3.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-27, #1 on 1/6)
Post by: Big333223 on January 08, 2017, 08:21:47 PM
What I learned today: I knew that we only had a 25% chance of getting the first pick even if the Nets are the worst team, but I didn't realize that our most likely position is 4th, which is a 36% chance. Ouch:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NBA_draft_lottery

Mike

Sort of.  This would mean there is a 64% chance the C's would get top 3.
Right.

Everyone always gets in the weeds with the odds stuff and overthinks it. It's actually as simple as it seems: You want the highest pick you can get. Period.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-28, #1 on 1/8)
Post by: mef730 on January 09, 2017, 06:00:54 PM
On a night in which neither Brooklyn nor the Celtics are playing, we are still guaranteed a win, as Dallas and Minnesota square off.

Mike
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-27, #1 on 1/6)
Post by: fairweatherfan on January 09, 2017, 07:14:38 PM
What I learned today: I knew that we only had a 25% chance of getting the first pick even if the Nets are the worst team, but I didn't realize that our most likely position is 4th, which is a 36% chance. Ouch:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NBA_draft_lottery

Mike

Sort of.  This would mean there is a 64% chance the C's would get top 3.

Right. The plurality of outcomes are #4, but the majority of outcomes are better. Also helps that #4 is the absolute worst pick we could get, which is pretty good in this draft.

Best thing to do is, just like last year, focus on the likelihood of a top 5 pick rather than sweating #1. At this point we'd have a 100% chance of a top 5 pick, and that won't change until Brooklyn catches at least two teams. And all while we have a great shot to get at least 50 wins. Great situation to be in.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-28, #1 on 1/8)
Post by: Adelaide Celt on January 09, 2017, 10:24:17 PM
On a night in which neither Brooklyn nor the Celtics are playing, we are still guaranteed a win, as Dallas and Minnesota square off.

Mike

Minnesota up by 11 with 33 seconds left. Game is far from over.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-28, #1 on 1/8)
Post by: SuddenFame on January 09, 2017, 10:28:44 PM
Seems like Dallas could be in Tank Mode now, or very soon.
Miami definitely is, unfortunately. :-\
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-28, #1 on 1/8)
Post by: jdz101 on January 09, 2017, 10:56:58 PM
Seems like Dallas could be in Tank Mode now, or very soon.
Miami definitely is, unfortunately. :-\

Philly are still the big worry IMO.

One embiid tweak away from being horribad.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-28, #1 on 1/8)
Post by: Smokeeye123 on January 10, 2017, 12:05:52 AM
Seems like Dallas could be in Tank Mode now, or very soon.
Miami definitely is, unfortunately. :-\

Philly are still the big worry IMO.

One embiid tweak away from being horribad.
eh, ben simmons might start playing this month, and brook lopez will probably be dealt. We will be fine
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-28, #1 on 1/8)
Post by: knuckleballer on January 10, 2017, 12:18:14 AM
Seems like Dallas could be in Tank Mode now, or very soon.
Miami definitely is, unfortunately. :-\

Philly are still the big worry IMO.

One embiid tweak away from being horribad.
eh, ben simmons might start playing this month, and brook lopez will probably be dealt. We will be fine

I don't understand why people think Ben Simmons can turn an NBA team around.  He couldn't do squat with his college team.  Until he learns to shoot a jump shot, which may never happen, he won't do anything in the NBA.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-28, #1 on 1/8)
Post by: jdz101 on January 10, 2017, 12:20:52 AM
Seems like Dallas could be in Tank Mode now, or very soon.
Miami definitely is, unfortunately. :-\

Philly are still the big worry IMO.

One embiid tweak away from being horribad.
eh, ben simmons might start playing this month, and brook lopez will probably be dealt. We will be fine

I'm not doubting that brooklyn has a really strong chance at first in the lottery.

Just saying that you're still thinking about philly before teams like dallas when it comes to losing tons of games.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-28, #1 on 1/8)
Post by: tazzmaniac on January 10, 2017, 12:26:14 AM
Seems like Dallas could be in Tank Mode now, or very soon.
Miami definitely is, unfortunately. :-\

Philly are still the big worry IMO.

One embiid tweak away from being horribad.
eh, ben simmons might start playing this month, and brook lopez will probably be dealt. We will be fine

I don't understand why people think Ben Simmons can turn an NBA team around.  He couldn't do squat with his college team.  Until he learns to shoot a jump shot, which may never happen, he won't do anything in the NBA.
Simmons didn't have Embiid at LSU. 
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-28, #1 on 1/8)
Post by: mef730 on January 10, 2017, 11:05:42 AM
Seems like Dallas could be in Tank Mode now, or very soon.
Miami definitely is, unfortunately. :-\

Philly are still the big worry IMO.

One embiid tweak away from being horribad.

I'm also worried about Anthony Davis, although they have a hefty lead over BKN. Speaking of which, Brook Lopez has played in 33 of 36 games so far. They must be feeling pretty good about his health.

Mike
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-28, #1 on 1/8)
Post by: bopna on January 10, 2017, 12:06:16 PM
8th thru 12th is very wide open in the West so I dont think teams out west are gonna outright tank. Pelicans are within striking distance of the 8th seed.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-28, #1 on 1/8)
Post by: Smokeeye123 on January 10, 2017, 12:20:45 PM
Seems like Dallas could be in Tank Mode now, or very soon.
Miami definitely is, unfortunately. :-\

Philly are still the big worry IMO.

One embiid tweak away from being horribad.
eh, ben simmons might start playing this month, and brook lopez will probably be dealt. We will be fine

I don't understand why people think Ben Simmons can turn an NBA team around.  He couldn't do squat with his college team.  Until he learns to shoot a jump shot, which may never happen, he won't do anything in the NBA.

Simmons is a phenomenal passer and play maker so they are going to play him at pointguard. Just because he needs to work on his shot doesn't make him bad. He was drafted #1 overall and is going to be more Lebron than Anthony Bennett.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-28, #1 on 1/8)
Post by: footey on January 10, 2017, 12:23:22 PM
When is Simmons scheduled to start playing?
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-28, #1 on 1/8)
Post by: Vermont Green on January 10, 2017, 12:32:46 PM
The standings are very jumbled right now because the teams have all played different numbers of games.  But what could be interesting is if Philly starts to rise and the Lakers start to fall.  Philly would have a double incentive to tank and not let the Lakers into the bottom 3.

If the Lakers do get 1-3 (within the protection for the pick), it becomes unprotected next season and should still be pretty good I guess.  This protection also impacts a pick to Orlando.  If the Lakers fall into 1-3 and keep the pick, a 2019 first round pick to Orlando becomes 2 second round picks.  The Lakers have plenty of reason to tank.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-28, #1 on 1/8)
Post by: Csfan1984 on January 10, 2017, 12:54:31 PM
Seems like Dallas could be in Tank Mode now, or very soon.
Miami definitely is, unfortunately. :-\

Philly are still the big worry IMO.

One embiid tweak away from being horribad.
eh, ben simmons might start playing this month, and brook lopez will probably be dealt. We will be fine

I don't understand why people think Ben Simmons can turn an NBA team around.  He couldn't do squat with his college team.  Until he learns to shoot a jump shot, which may never happen, he won't do anything in the NBA.

Simmons is a phenomenal passer and play maker so they are going to play him at pointguard. Just because he needs to work on his shot doesn't make him bad. He was drafted #1 overall and is going to be more Lebron than Anthony Bennett.
I feel Simmons can become a Grant Hill/ Pippen type  point foward. I wouldn't be him in the level of a LeBron James in terms of game control and impact. But Hill and Pippen is still very good enough to add 6 wins easy as they had good rookie impacts on their clubs.

On another note, I don't think they will play Simmons. Let him be a "Rookie " next year. Let him get 100% and confident in that health.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-28, #1 on 1/8)
Post by: celticsclay on January 10, 2017, 01:12:00 PM
Seems like Dallas could be in Tank Mode now, or very soon.
Miami definitely is, unfortunately. :-\

Philly are still the big worry IMO.

One embiid tweak away from being horribad.
eh, ben simmons might start playing this month, and brook lopez will probably be dealt. We will be fine

I don't understand why people think Ben Simmons can turn an NBA team around.  He couldn't do squat with his college team.  Until he learns to shoot a jump shot, which may never happen, he won't do anything in the NBA.

Simmons is a phenomenal passer and play maker so they are going to play him at pointguard. Just because he needs to work on his shot doesn't make him bad. He was drafted #1 overall and is going to be more Lebron than Anthony Bennett.
I feel Simmons can become a Grant Hill/ Pippen type  point foward. I wouldn't be him in the level of a LeBron James in terms of game control and impact. But Hill and Pippen is still very good enough to add 6 wins easy as they had good rookie impacts on their clubs.

On another note, I don't think they will play Simmons. Let him be a "Rookie " next year. Let him get 100% and confident in that health.

I think Philly is going to keep winning games, which is a good sign because it means their players are improving. Noel and Embiid seem to fit together, Illasova is hitting some shots, covington is playing good defense. Add in Simmons and they are a lot better than the miami and brooklyn squads.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-28, #1 on 1/8)
Post by: mef730 on January 10, 2017, 10:08:58 PM
Love this thread. I know that, if I come here and there are no new posts, the Nets are getting blown out.

Mike
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-28, #1 on 1/8)
Post by: tazzmaniac on January 10, 2017, 10:17:15 PM
When is Simmons scheduled to start playing?
Simmons just started practicing with the team.  I wouldn't expect him to be back until February and then he'll be on a minutes restriction.  So I wouldn't expect him to have a significant effect on their win total. 
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-28, #1 on 1/8)
Post by: Boris Badenov on January 10, 2017, 10:18:12 PM
Quincy Acy played one minute for them tonight and was a +7. If he gets more playing time, they are going to be a powerhouse.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-28, #1 on 1/8)
Post by: mef730 on January 10, 2017, 10:34:09 PM
Quincy Acy played one minute for them tonight and was a +7. If he gets more playing time, they are going to be a powerhouse.

Ya gotta figure, though, that they can't play him more than 30 minutes per game. So he'll only be a +210.

Mike
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-29, #1 on 1/10)
Post by: Phantom255x on January 11, 2017, 09:24:00 PM
Sixers beat the Knicks on a LAST SECOND SHOT LOL 98-97  ;D
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-29, #1 on 1/10)
Post by: LarBrd33 on January 11, 2017, 09:24:35 PM
Sixers beat the Knicks on a LAST SECOND SHOT LOL 98-97  ;D
Awesome.  They have won 4 of their last 5. 
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-29, #1 on 1/10)
Post by: Boris Badenov on January 11, 2017, 09:26:35 PM
Miami is going to be tough. They are showing real commitment and desire.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-29, #1 on 1/10)
Post by: LarBrd33 on January 11, 2017, 09:27:14 PM
76ers have played great since Noel returned.  Top 6 defense in the league.  Simmons should return soon.   Awesome for the Nets pick. 
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-29, #1 on 1/10)
Post by: trickybilly on January 11, 2017, 10:16:54 PM
Sixers beat the Knicks on a LAST SECOND SHOT LOL 98-97  ;D

Ah, so happy... Markelle inches closer while Phil finally gets found out. A guy whose aura, whose entire life, has been lottery-ticketed by one guy.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-29, #1 on 1/10)
Post by: SCeltic34 on January 11, 2017, 10:18:14 PM
Minnesota also about to win against the Rockets, who have been next to unbeatable of late.  An unexpected win that brings them up to 12.  Not that I think they'd finish behind the Nets, but having more breathing room is always welcome.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-29, #1 on 1/10)
Post by: jdz101 on January 11, 2017, 10:23:21 PM
1st in the lottery becomes more and more likely if things keep trending this way.

Just gotta have some luck with the ping pong balls
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-29, #1 on 1/10)
Post by: Vox_Populi on January 11, 2017, 10:24:21 PM
Hopefully Philly continues to bench Okafor. He kills them whenever he's on the floor and giving Noel his minutes gives them an above average NBA caliber center rotation.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-29, #1 on 1/10)
Post by: The One on January 11, 2017, 10:33:52 PM
Hopefully Philly continues to bench Okafor. He kills them whenever he's on the floor and giving Noel his minutes gives them an above average NBA caliber center rotation.

Oh...I thought  Jahlil was hurt.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-29, #1 on 1/10)
Post by: trickybilly on January 11, 2017, 10:36:16 PM
Philly just 7 games out of playoffs!!! LB33's fun bits must be buzzing like a beehive
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-29, #1 on 1/10)
Post by: max215 on January 11, 2017, 10:36:17 PM
Hopefully Philly continues to bench Okafor. He kills them whenever he's on the floor and giving Noel his minutes gives them an above average NBA caliber center rotation.

Oh...I thought  Jahlil was hurt.

Nope. 3 straight DNP-CD.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-29, #1 on 1/10)
Post by: jpotter33 on January 11, 2017, 10:52:49 PM
I didn't even realize the 76ers won! Ric Flair "Wooooooooooooooooooooo!"

(https://m.popkey.co/637629/Wx4k6.gif)
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-29, #1 on 1/10)
Post by: fantankerous on January 11, 2017, 11:01:02 PM
Hopefully Philly continues to bench Okafor. He kills them whenever he's on the floor and giving Noel his minutes gives them an above average NBA caliber center rotation.

Oh...I thought  Jahlil was hurt.

Nope. 3 straight DNP-CD.

Yep.  Because he is an awful player.  Hinkie would still have a job if he drafted the Zinger.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-29, #1 on 1/10)
Post by: colincb on January 11, 2017, 11:01:57 PM
Hopefully Philly continues to bench Okafor. He kills them whenever he's on the floor and giving Noel his minutes gives them an above average NBA caliber center rotation.

Oh...I thought  Jahlil was hurt.
Noel is being showcased. Doubt either are in the Sixers long-term plans, but they have to trade Noel now or lose him for nothing.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-29, #1 on 1/10)
Post by: chambers on January 12, 2017, 01:53:13 AM
76ers win, Minny wins, and Brooklyn are now 3 games clear with the worst record.

Miami will be a threat but Philly are 5-5 in their last 10 games. New York are 2-8 in their last 10 but they are too good to fall to BRK territory.

#1 pick here we come baby.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-29, #1 on 1/10)
Post by: celticsclay on January 12, 2017, 02:11:23 AM
Philly just 7 games out of playoffs!!! LB33's fun bits must be buzzing like a beehive

Lol! His fun bits!
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-29, #1 on 1/10)
Post by: mef730 on January 12, 2017, 01:42:21 PM
Philly just 7 games out of playoffs!!! LB33's fun bits must be buzzing like a beehive

Okay, I know that this is the internet and everything, but it's still possible to overshare. ;)

As a 40+ year Red Sox fan, I've been taught that optimism is a dangerous thing. Hope is a dangerous thing. Hope can drive a man insane. It's got no use on the inside.

Nevertheless, had somebody told me at the beginning of the year that, after 37 games, the Nets would be 1.5 games "in front" and only two teams would be within three games of them, well, my fun bits might have felt a bit like LB33's.

Mike
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-29, #1 on 1/10)
Post by: libermaniac on January 12, 2017, 01:49:11 PM
Anthony Davis is questionable tonight (hip) for game vs. Brooklyn.  That situation will obviously play a major factor in that game.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-29, #1 on 1/10)
Post by: MattyIce on January 12, 2017, 06:47:19 PM
Anthony Davis is questionable tonight (hip) for game vs. Brooklyn.  That situation will obviously play a major factor in that game.

he's out tonight  >:(
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-29, #1 on 1/10)
Post by: clevelandceltic on January 12, 2017, 07:00:08 PM
Brooklyn is almost at the point where they wont be able to win enough games to catch the 2,3,4th place teams. If Miami, Dallas, and the Sixers each win one more game before the Nets do it will be very hard for the Nets to catch them basically assuring the Cs pick is top 4
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-29, #1 on 1/10)
Post by: The One on January 12, 2017, 07:06:41 PM
76ers win, Minny wins, and Brooklyn are now 3 games clear with the worst record.

Miami will be a threat but Philly are 5-5 in their last 10 games. New York are 2-8 in their last 10 but they are too good to fall to BRK territory.

#1 pick here we come baby.

The best odds anyways...worst case would be #4 pick.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-29, #1 on 1/10)
Post by: MattyIce on January 12, 2017, 07:10:09 PM
Brooklyn is almost at the point where they wont be able to win enough games to catch the 2,3,4th place teams. If Miami, Dallas, and the Sixers each win one more game before the Nets do it will be very hard for the Nets to catch them basically assuring the Cs pick is top 4

i expect/fear miami to tank all 3 games they play against bkln in the next 5 weeks, hope your right
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-29, #1 on 1/10)
Post by: clevelandceltic on January 12, 2017, 07:18:41 PM
Brooklyn is almost at the point where they wont be able to win enough games to catch the 2,3,4th place teams. If Miami, Dallas, and the Sixers each win one more game before the Nets do it will be very hard for the Nets to catch them basically assuring the Cs pick is top 4

i expect/fear miami to tank all 3 games they play against bkln in the next 5 weeks, hope your right

Well lets look at the odds here. Brooklyn has won 8 games so far. Miami is currently at 11. If Miami moves to 12 before Brooklyn gets to 9 you are basically talking about Brooklyn having to win at a much higher clip to even tie these other teams let alone pass them. A 4 game lead is pretty big.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-29, #1 on 1/10)
Post by: jdz101 on January 12, 2017, 07:21:13 PM
It looks really good now but anything could still happen. Not even halfway through the season and the nets still have Lin to come back and a possible change of chemiy in a Lopez deal.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-29, #1 on 1/10)
Post by: tazzmaniac on January 12, 2017, 07:38:00 PM
Brooklyn is almost at the point where they wont be able to win enough games to catch the 2,3,4th place teams. If Miami, Dallas, and the Sixers each win one more game before the Nets do it will be very hard for the Nets to catch them basically assuring the Cs pick is top 4

i expect/fear miami to tank all 3 games they play against bkln in the next 5 weeks, hope your right

Well lets look at the odds here. Brooklyn has won 8 games so far. Miami is currently at 11. If Miami moves to 12 before Brooklyn gets to 9 you are basically talking about Brooklyn having to win at a much higher clip to even tie these other teams let alone pass them. A 4 game lead is pretty big.
The Heat have 3 games against the Nets so they could close the gap just losing those.  Teams that are going to tank do need to start soon if they hope to close the gap.   
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-29, #1 on 1/10)
Post by: Ogaju on January 12, 2017, 08:00:39 PM
I see our New Orleans affiliate is playing the Nets tonight... how are they doing?
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-29, #1 on 1/10)
Post by: chilidawg on January 12, 2017, 08:38:04 PM
I see our New Orleans affiliate is playing the Nets tonight... how are they doing?

Nets up 6 at the half.  AD is out for NO with a hip injury, which makes them a pretty bad team.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-29, #1 on 1/10)
Post by: mef730 on January 12, 2017, 08:48:52 PM
I see our New Orleans affiliate is playing the Nets tonight... how are they doing?

Nets up 6 at the half.  AD is out for NO with a hip injury, which makes them a pretty bad team.

Man, the Knicks always find a way to screw us.

Mike
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-29, #1 on 1/10)
Post by: chambers on January 12, 2017, 09:30:09 PM
Tyreke and Holiday are keeping NO in it with 3 mins left.

Gonna be a close one. If the Nets lose this the #1 pick is our destiny!
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-29, #1 on 1/10)
Post by: jpotter33 on January 12, 2017, 09:41:54 PM
Nets absolutely collapsing down the stretch here lol

They've been so bad that it looks like they're purposefully tanking lol
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-29, #1 on 1/10)
Post by: libermaniac on January 12, 2017, 09:43:01 PM
Wow.  This will be a big loss with no Anthony Davis!!!
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-29, #1 on 1/10)
Post by: SCeltic34 on January 12, 2017, 09:43:46 PM
I wasn't able to watch the 1st quarter, but the Pels looked absolutely terrible in the 2nd and a little less terrible in the 3rd.  The fact that they're about to win this game without their best player in AD is a testament to how bad the Nets really are.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-29, #1 on 1/10)
Post by: ImShakHeIsShaq on January 12, 2017, 09:44:07 PM
wow. it's like bkn is tanking for us on purpose!


aww didn't see that soz. yeah jp lol
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-29, #1 on 1/10)
Post by: knuckleballer on January 12, 2017, 09:44:47 PM
Nets absolutely collapsing down the stretch here lol

They've been so bad that it looks like they're purposefully tanking lol

They're hoping for the number one pick.  Shhhh... don't tell them.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-29, #1 on 1/10)
Post by: Neurotic Guy on January 12, 2017, 09:46:36 PM
Building cushion.  Keep it going CNets.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-29, #1 on 1/10)
Post by: ImShakHeIsShaq on January 12, 2017, 09:50:06 PM
i think the nets are tanking for viewers. they probably have celts fans watching and attending their games lol. money haha.   :laugh:
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-29, #1 on 1/10)
Post by: libermaniac on January 12, 2017, 09:50:14 PM
Mavs at Suns later ... win/win game.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-29, #1 on 1/10)
Post by: Phantom255x on January 12, 2017, 09:53:40 PM
We are all so excited... 

Can you imagine how Nets fans feel right now? LOL.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-29, #1 on 1/10)
Post by: max215 on January 12, 2017, 09:53:52 PM
A loss to the Pelicans at home without Davis? Doesn't get much better than that.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-29, #1 on 1/10)
Post by: Vox_Populi on January 12, 2017, 09:54:43 PM
I'd be surprised if they don't trade Lopez.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-29, #1 on 1/10)
Post by: Ogaju on January 12, 2017, 09:55:07 PM
The Boston Pelicans WIN !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-29, #1 on 1/10)
Post by: Ogaju on January 12, 2017, 09:55:34 PM
or should I say New Orleans Celtics??
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-29, #1 on 1/10)
Post by: SCeltic34 on January 12, 2017, 09:56:17 PM
The Pels did us a bunch of huge favors this week.  Lost to us and then beat the Knicks and the Nets.    Thanks New Orleans.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-29, #1 on 1/10)
Post by: jpotter33 on January 12, 2017, 09:58:28 PM
wow. it's like bkn is tanking for us on purpose!


aww didn't see that soz. yeah jp lol

Seriously, they were so bad they looked to be tanking on purpose lol It's great!
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-29, #1 on 1/10)
Post by: tankcity! on January 12, 2017, 10:00:02 PM
On ESPN Boston, they should have Brooklyn Nets updates.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-29, #1 on 1/10)
Post by: jpotter33 on January 12, 2017, 10:01:46 PM
Mavs at Suns later ... win/win game.

I'm undecided on who I want to win that game. The Mavs are closer to the Nets, but theoretically they should be a better team than what they are, which makes me think they'll win more going forward.

The Suns still scare me, though, because they just find ways to lose games, similar to the Nets tonight. But a five win lead on the Nets halfway through the season would just about do it with the Suns I would think.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-29, #1 on 1/10)
Post by: Ogaju on January 12, 2017, 10:02:15 PM
Nets absolutely collapsing down the stretch here lol

They've been so bad that it looks like they're purposefully tanking lol

We own the Nets.... they have to do what we want.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-29, #1 on 1/10)
Post by: The One on January 12, 2017, 10:04:49 PM
The Boston Pelicans WIN !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

JAMBALAYA!!!!!!!
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-29, #1 on 1/10)
Post by: ImShakHeIsShaq on January 12, 2017, 10:30:18 PM
wow. it's like bkn is tanking for us on purpose!


aww didn't see that soz. yeah jp lol

Seriously, they were so bad they looked to be tanking on purpose lol It's great!

I watch their games live or dvr and I honestly can't believe my eyes at times. If it wasn't an absurd thought I would swear their coach is tanking too. It's really weird.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-30, #1 on 1/12)
Post by: LarBrd33 on January 12, 2017, 10:47:40 PM
They are only 22 games under .500.  Let's not get too excited.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-29, #1 on 1/10)
Post by: csfansince60s on January 12, 2017, 10:51:46 PM
We are all so excited... 

Can you imagine how Nets fans feel right now? LOL.

 As much as I am enjoying their losing, I feel really bad for them. Their fans did nothing to deserve this.

Knicks fans, Philly fans, Lakers fans, Cavaliers fans and Warriors fans, I'd be gloating.

Here I'm just thrilled for us and genuinely feel bad for them.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-30, #1 on 1/12)
Post by: slamtheking on January 12, 2017, 10:54:52 PM
We are all so excited... 

Can you imagine how Nets fans feel right now? LOL.

 As much as I am enjoying their losing, I feel really bad for them. Their fans did nothing to deserve this.

Knicks fans, Philly fans, Lakers fans, Cavaliers fans and Warriors fans, I'd be gloating.

Here I'm just thrilled for us and genuinely feel bad for them.
crap happens.  we didn't deserve what happened with Bias or Reggie yet it did.  we really didn't deserve to have Reggie's salary count against our cap either.  we also didn't deserve KG's injury in 2009 nor Perk's injury in the 2010 finals.

what they're enduring now is self inflicted by their management.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-30, #1 on 1/12)
Post by: hpantazo on January 12, 2017, 10:56:02 PM
We are all so excited... 

Can you imagine how Nets fans feel right now? LOL.

 As much as I am enjoying their losing, I feel really bad for them. Their fans did nothing to deserve this.

Knicks fans, Philly fans, Lakers fans, Cavaliers fans and Warriors fans, I'd be gloating.

Here I'm just thrilled for us and genuinely feel bad for them.
crap happens.  we didn't deserve what happened with Bias or Reggie yet it did.  we really didn't deserve to have Reggie's salary count against our cap either. we also didn't deserve KG's injury in 2009 nor Perk's injury in the 2010 finals.

what they're enduring now is self inflicted by their management.

That's the one I am still bitter about. That was all on Stern and his anti-Celtics bias.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-29, #1 on 1/10)
Post by: ImShakHeIsShaq on January 12, 2017, 10:56:44 PM
We are all so excited... 

Can you imagine how Nets fans feel right now? LOL.

 As much as I am enjoying their losing, I feel really bad for them. Their fans did nothing to deserve this.

Knicks fans, Philly fans, Lakers fans, Cavaliers fans and Warriors fans, I'd be gloating.

Here I'm just thrilled for us and genuinely feel bad for them.


I wonder what their fans said at the time of the trade. I really didn't think about their fans but I hear you, I would hate to be them.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-29, #1 on 1/10)
Post by: Celtics18 on January 12, 2017, 10:58:14 PM
We are all so excited... 

Can you imagine how Nets fans feel right now? LOL.

 As much as I am enjoying their losing, I feel really bad for them. Their fans did nothing to deserve this.

Knicks fans, Philly fans, Lakers fans, Cavaliers fans and Warriors fans, I'd be gloating.

Here I'm just thrilled for us and genuinely feel bad for them.

Oh please,  while I have a hard time imagining that the Brooklyn Nets have fans, they definitely deserve this if they exist.

They probably go to the games and cheer for their team "in an ironic way."
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-30, #1 on 1/12)
Post by: mef730 on January 13, 2017, 09:49:34 AM
On a mobile, so I don't know if this link will work but, apparently, Lin was on a Chinese news show last night and " hopes to be back within 1 to 2 weeks. "

What is 1-2 weeks in basketball time?

https://www.google.com/amp/www.netsdaily.com/platform/amp/2017/1/12/14258232/jeremy-lin-tells-chinese-tv-he-hopes-to-be-back-within-one-a-couple-of-weeks

Mike
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-30, #1 on 1/12)
Post by: SuddenFame on January 13, 2017, 01:36:35 PM
Let's hope Lin misses 1 or 2 of those Heat games.  If Dragic and Whiteside suit up, those are winnable games for the Heat and will officially bury the Nets for the rest of the season.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-29, #1 on 1/10)
Post by: SuddenFame on January 13, 2017, 01:41:28 PM
We are all so excited... 

Can you imagine how Nets fans feel right now? LOL.

 As much as I am enjoying their losing, I feel really bad for them. Their fans did nothing to deserve this.

Knicks fans, Philly fans, Lakers fans, Cavaliers fans and Warriors fans, I'd be gloating.

Here I'm just thrilled for us and genuinely feel bad for them.

I completely agree (If it were the Lakers, maaan would I gloat.)
From what I see on the Nets blogs, their fans are very loyal and passionate about the team.  They are in a bad way right now and for the foreseeable future, yet the blogs are still very active and they were really pulling for their trashy players last year and this season. 

I hope the Celtics never get snookered like Prokhorov & Billy King did. 
Gotta suck watching a 50 win division rival get lottery pick after lottery pick while you're in last place.  :-\

They do have a glimmer of hope though, their g.m. Sean Marks made a nice draft pick this year with Caris LaVert.  He looks promising, could be their future.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-30, #1 on 1/12)
Post by: CapnDunks on January 13, 2017, 02:24:39 PM
I live in Brooklyn and work a 5 minute walk from the Barclays center, let me break down Nets fans for you.

75% People who want to wear black jerseys and hats.
20% Band wagoners who wanted to get in at the bottom floor of what looked to be a competitive franchise before Dwill's attitude and Lopez's foot.
5% Real fans who used to watch Kmart and Kidd.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-30, #1 on 1/12)
Post by: SHAQATTACK on January 13, 2017, 03:12:12 PM
I live in Brooklyn and work a 5 minute walk from the Barclays center, let me break down Nets fans for you.

75% People who want to wear black jerseys and hats.
20% Band wagoners who wanted to get in at the bottom floor of what looked to be a competitive franchise before Dwill's attitude and Lopez's foot.
5% Real fans who used to watch Kmart and Kidd.

The whole fan base rides the same taxi to the games
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-29, #1 on 1/10)
Post by: CelticGuardian on January 13, 2017, 03:19:48 PM
We are all so excited... 

Can you imagine how Nets fans feel right now? LOL.

Yeah, whatever you do.. DO NOT go over to NetsDaily. You will actually want to give the poor souls the pick back with how bleak the situation is.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-30, #1 on 1/12)
Post by: mef730 on January 13, 2017, 09:34:01 PM
SAT question for the day:

Black is to White as Isaiah Thomas is to [blank] in the fourth quarter.

No multiple choices necessary.

Mike
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-30, #1 on 1/12)
Post by: SCeltic34 on January 13, 2017, 09:47:40 PM
Toronto was only up 1 going into the 4th but they put up a 42 point 4th quarter.  42 points to Brooklyn's 24.

I admit, I still get annoyed when good teams are losing or only hold marginal leads against the Nets going into the 4th, knowing that there's a very likely chance the Nets will put up a horrible 4th and lose the game. 

Nets now on pace to win 17 games.

Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-30, #1 on 1/12)
Post by: Emmette Bryant on January 13, 2017, 09:48:25 PM
I was watching the Nets on my Ipad while I watched the Celtics on the TV.  The Nets game was really tight up to the 4th quarter.  Now they're getting processed.

Now that I think about it, that's what happens in every Nets game.  ;)
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-30, #1 on 1/12)
Post by: jpotter33 on January 13, 2017, 09:53:34 PM
Minny up big in the middle of the 4th, too, though as bad as they are down the stretch there's no telling if they'll win or not.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-30, #1 on 1/12)
Post by: mef730 on January 13, 2017, 09:57:21 PM
Minny up big in the middle of the 4th, too, though as bad as they are down the stretch there's no telling if they'll win or not.

Wow, where did they come from all of a sudden?

Mike
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-30, #1 on 1/12)
Post by: SCeltic34 on January 13, 2017, 10:02:57 PM
Philly won too.  Don't look now, they're 5-5 in their last 10 games and on a franchise record 3 game win streak.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-30, #1 on 1/12)
Post by: LarBrd33 on January 13, 2017, 10:33:08 PM
Philly won too.  Don't look now, they're 5-5 in their last 10 games and on a franchise record 3 game win streak.
They are 8-7 since December 8th.   
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-30, #1 on 1/12)
Post by: liam on January 13, 2017, 10:38:08 PM
The team we have to worry about are the Heat. They are driving a full on tank at about 90 miles per hour, oh and the Suns just stink.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-30, #1 on 1/12)
Post by: saltlover on January 13, 2017, 10:38:55 PM
Philly won too.  Don't look now, they're 5-5 in their last 10 games and on a franchise record 3 game win streak.
They are 8-7 since December 8th.

And they still have the 5th-worst record in the NBA.  Quality team.

Meanwhile, the Celtics are 12-3 in their last 15, but keep celebrating Philly's month of mediocrity after 3+ years of embarrassing basketball.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-30, #1 on 1/12)
Post by: Smokeeye123 on January 13, 2017, 10:44:47 PM
Philly won too.  Don't look now, they're 5-5 in their last 10 games and on a franchise record 3 game win streak.
They are 8-7 since December 8th.

And they still have the 5th-worst record in the NBA.  Quality team.

Meanwhile, the Celtics are 12-3 in their last 15, but keep celebrating Philly's month of mediocrity after 3+ years of embarrassing basketball.

This is the Nets pick watch thread. The entire point is to root for other bad teams to win. I don't think you get it.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-30, #1 on 1/12)
Post by: trickybilly on January 13, 2017, 10:45:43 PM
Obviously LB33 is right that you can't win without a superstar. But if you suck too hard, you risk losing him to FA. If cousins extends then I'll eat my words but I don think he will. Guys ganging up on scrappy defense first teams with mid-career guys is the new norm..
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-30, #1 on 1/12)
Post by: Smokeeye123 on January 13, 2017, 10:47:26 PM
The team we have to worry about are the Heat. They are driving a full on tank at about 90 miles per hour, oh and the Suns just stink.

Agreed. Two huge games against the heat later this month for the Nets. If they split those we will be in good shape for the pick.

Nets schedule is brutal the next 5 games

Rockets
Raptors
@Pelicans
@Hornets (2nd night of back to back)
Spurs

Only one I see them winning is the Pelicans game but if Davis is back he will obliterate them on the glass.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-30, #1 on 1/12)
Post by: Boris Badenov on January 13, 2017, 11:04:09 PM
The team we have to worry about are the Heat. They are driving a full on tank at about 90 miles per hour, oh and the Suns just stink.

There is separation emerging between the bottom two (us and MIA) and the rest, who are currently 4 games or more behind us.

Writing that makes me realize I'm not going to say "Brooklyn" or "the Nets" any more when discussing the pick. I'm going to say "us" or "the C's," or similar.

Try it out. It feels good.

And by the way: if that really WERE us, if the Celts had done what some have been advocating all along and just thrown the team in the gutter in a blatant effort to tank...this season would STILL be a raging success just based on "our" record. "We" are tanking perfectly.

And we get that along with a team that's actually the 2nd-3rd best team in the East, and could acquire another star without touching that lottery pick. It's like Danny Ainge has somehow taken the "tank" and "contend" parallel universes and melded them.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-30, #1 on 1/12)
Post by: CelticGuardian on January 13, 2017, 11:04:33 PM
I think the Hawks going for a tank too but pull the trigger too late. Dwight Howard just kills everything he touches.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-30, #1 on 1/12)
Post by: tazzmaniac on January 13, 2017, 11:07:58 PM
Obviously LB33 is right that you can't win without a superstar. But if you suck too hard, you risk losing him to FA. If cousins extends then I'll eat my words but I don think he will. Guys ganging up on scrappy defense first teams with mid-career guys is the new norm..
So the Sixers will have 5 more seasons after this one to not suck too hard before Embiid becomes a UFA.  Don't think they have much to worry about other than Embiid's health.   
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-30, #1 on 1/12)
Post by: LarBrd33 on January 13, 2017, 11:13:56 PM
Philly won too.  Don't look now, they're 5-5 in their last 10 games and on a franchise record 3 game win streak.
They are 8-7 since December 8th.

And they still have the 5th-worst record in the NBA.  Quality team.

Meanwhile, the Celtics are 12-3 in their last 15, but keep celebrating Philly's month of mediocrity after 3+ years of embarrassing basketball.
8-7 with Embiid limited to 28 minutes per game and Simmons yet to suit up.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-30, #1 on 1/12)
Post by: jpotter33 on January 13, 2017, 11:19:47 PM
Philly won too.  Don't look now, they're 5-5 in their last 10 games and on a franchise record 3 game win streak.
They are 8-7 since December 8th.

And they still have the 5th-worst record in the NBA.  Quality team.

Meanwhile, the Celtics are 12-3 in their last 15, but keep celebrating Philly's month of mediocrity after 3+ years of embarrassing basketball.
8-7 with Embiid limited to 28 minutes per game and Simmons yet to suit up.

8 wins over the 20/20 Hornets and 6 other non-playoff teams in the:

Knicks
Nets x 2
TWolves
Nuggets
Pistons
Pelicans

Truly "impressive."  ::)
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-30, #1 on 1/12)
Post by: liam on January 13, 2017, 11:22:02 PM
Philly won too.  Don't look now, they're 5-5 in their last 10 games and on a franchise record 3 game win streak.
They are 8-7 since December 8th.

And they still have the 5th-worst record in the NBA.  Quality team.

Meanwhile, the Celtics are 12-3 in their last 15, but keep celebrating Philly's month of mediocrity after 3+ years of embarrassing basketball.
8-7 with Embiid limited to 28 minutes per game and Simmons yet to suit up.

8 wins over the 20/20 Hornets and 6 other non-playoff teams in the:

Knicks
Nets x 2
TWolves
Nuggets
Pistons
Pelicans

Truly "impressive."  ::)

Impressive for what was basically the worst team in the NBA for what like 5 years, more?
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-30, #1 on 1/12)
Post by: LarBrd33 on January 13, 2017, 11:44:19 PM
Philly won too.  Don't look now, they're 5-5 in their last 10 games and on a franchise record 3 game win streak.
They are 8-7 since December 8th.

And they still have the 5th-worst record in the NBA.  Quality team.

Meanwhile, the Celtics are 12-3 in their last 15, but keep celebrating Philly's month of mediocrity after 3+ years of embarrassing basketball.
8-7 with Embiid limited to 28 minutes per game and Simmons yet to suit up.

8 wins over the 20/20 Hornets and 6 other non-playoff teams in the:

Knicks
Nets x 2
TWolves
Nuggets
Pistons
Pelicans

Truly "impressive."  ::)

Impressive for what was basically the worst team in the NBA for what like 5 years, more?
if you guys aren't watching Embiid right now you are missing out on the most entertaining player we've seen in years. 
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-30, #1 on 1/12)
Post by: Ilikesports17 on January 13, 2017, 11:45:30 PM
Philly won too.  Don't look now, they're 5-5 in their last 10 games and on a franchise record 3 game win streak.
They are 8-7 since December 8th.

And they still have the 5th-worst record in the NBA.  Quality team.

Meanwhile, the Celtics are 12-3 in their last 15, but keep celebrating Philly's month of mediocrity after 3+ years of embarrassing basketball.
8-7 with Embiid limited to 28 minutes per game and Simmons yet to suit up.

8 wins over the 20/20 Hornets and 6 other non-playoff teams in the:

Knicks
Nets x 2
TWolves
Nuggets
Pistons
Pelicans

Truly "impressive."  ::)

Impressive for what was basically the worst team in the NBA for what like 5 years, more?
if you guys aren't watching Embiid right now you are missing out on the most entertaining player we've seen in years.
more entertaining right now Thomas or Embiid?

Im taking Thomas, but Embiid is a blast.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-30, #1 on 1/12)
Post by: Adelaide Celt on January 13, 2017, 11:50:43 PM
Looking like it's going to come down to Miami (most concern), Phoenix (2nd most) and Philly (3rd most). Dallas should be OK barring injury and same with Minnesota.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-30, #1 on 1/12)
Post by: saltlover on January 13, 2017, 11:54:30 PM
Philly won too.  Don't look now, they're 5-5 in their last 10 games and on a franchise record 3 game win streak.
They are 8-7 since December 8th.

And they still have the 5th-worst record in the NBA.  Quality team.

Meanwhile, the Celtics are 12-3 in their last 15, but keep celebrating Philly's month of mediocrity after 3+ years of embarrassing basketball.
8-7 with Embiid limited to 28 minutes per game and Simmons yet to suit up.

8 wins over the 20/20 Hornets and 6 other non-playoff teams in the:

Knicks
Nets x 2
TWolves
Nuggets
Pistons
Pelicans

Truly "impressive."  ::)

Impressive for what was basically the worst team in the NBA for what like 5 years, more?

5 years ago they took us to 7 games in the second round of the playoffs.  They aren't the Kings.  I can't believe how excited people get on this board for a team that is 12-25 but has won 5 of 6, while getting disappointed in the 25-15 team that has won 6 games out of 7, and 12 out of 15, that they supposedly root for.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-30, #1 on 1/12)
Post by: LarBrd33 on January 14, 2017, 12:02:02 AM
Philly won too.  Don't look now, they're 5-5 in their last 10 games and on a franchise record 3 game win streak.
They are 8-7 since December 8th.

And they still have the 5th-worst record in the NBA.  Quality team.

Meanwhile, the Celtics are 12-3 in their last 15, but keep celebrating Philly's month of mediocrity after 3+ years of embarrassing basketball.
8-7 with Embiid limited to 28 minutes per game and Simmons yet to suit up.

8 wins over the 20/20 Hornets and 6 other non-playoff teams in the:

Knicks
Nets x 2
TWolves
Nuggets
Pistons
Pelicans

Truly "impressive."  ::)

Impressive for what was basically the worst team in the NBA for what like 5 years, more?
if you guys aren't watching Embiid right now you are missing out on the most entertaining player we've seen in years.
more entertaining right now Thomas or Embiid?

Im taking Thomas, but Embiid is a blast.
well admittedly I'm bias towards Thomas.  He's amazing.  But the entertainment surrounding Embiid transcends baskeball.  That dude is a walking internet meme.   He is legitimately hilarious.  A personality like that is rare.  The entire Embiid experience might be the biggest story of the season outside of Durant joining the Globetrotters. 

Might explain why Embiid has more allstar votes than Thomas.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-30, #1 on 1/12)
Post by: LarBrd33 on January 14, 2017, 12:26:00 AM
This Nets situation is incredible.  We are basically a lock to add a star prospect.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-30, #1 on 1/12)
Post by: Ilikesports17 on January 14, 2017, 12:26:58 AM
Philly won too.  Don't look now, they're 5-5 in their last 10 games and on a franchise record 3 game win streak.
They are 8-7 since December 8th.

And they still have the 5th-worst record in the NBA.  Quality team.

Meanwhile, the Celtics are 12-3 in their last 15, but keep celebrating Philly's month of mediocrity after 3+ years of embarrassing basketball.
8-7 with Embiid limited to 28 minutes per game and Simmons yet to suit up.

8 wins over the 20/20 Hornets and 6 other non-playoff teams in the:

Knicks
Nets x 2
TWolves
Nuggets
Pistons
Pelicans

Truly "impressive."  ::)

Impressive for what was basically the worst team in the NBA for what like 5 years, more?
if you guys aren't watching Embiid right now you are missing out on the most entertaining player we've seen in years.
more entertaining right now Thomas or Embiid?

Im taking Thomas, but Embiid is a blast.
well admittedly I'm bias towards Thomas.  He's amazing.  But the entertainment surrounding Embiid transcends baskeball.  That dude is a walking internet meme.   He is legitimately hilarious.  A personality like that is rare.  The entire Embiid experience might be the biggest story of the season outside of Durant joining the Globetrotters. 

Might explain why Embiid has more allstar votes than Thomas.
I think to a casual basketball fan, the process stuff is hilarious and he is an awesome personality, but for a big time basketball fan, Im taking a 5'9" dude dropping 28 a night and dominating 4th quarters.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-30, #1 on 1/12)
Post by: jpotter33 on January 14, 2017, 08:30:40 PM
Phoenix just beat San Antonio in Mexico City, putting them 5 wins more than the Nets. The gap keeps growing! Now if only Miami would win some more.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-30, #1 on 1/12)
Post by: LarBrd33 on January 14, 2017, 08:43:18 PM
Phoenix just beat San Antonio in Mexico City, putting them 5 wins more than the Nets. The gap keeps growing! Now if only Miami would win some more.
awesome.  Miami seems to be the biggest threat now.  And the Lakers will probably go full-blown tank mode in an effort to keep their pick in this loaded draft.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-30, #1 on 1/12)
Post by: Celtics18 on January 14, 2017, 09:07:24 PM
Philly won too.  Don't look now, they're 5-5 in their last 10 games and on a franchise record 3 game win streak.
They are 8-7 since December 8th.

And they still have the 5th-worst record in the NBA.  Quality team.

Meanwhile, the Celtics are 12-3 in their last 15, but keep celebrating Philly's month of mediocrity after 3+ years of embarrassing basketball.
8-7 with Embiid limited to 28 minutes per game and Simmons yet to suit up.

8 wins over the 20/20 Hornets and 6 other non-playoff teams in the:

Knicks
Nets x 2
TWolves
Nuggets
Pistons
Pelicans

Truly "impressive."  ::)

Impressive for what was basically the worst team in the NBA for what like 5 years, more?
if you guys aren't watching Embiid right now you are missing out on the most entertaining player we've seen in years.

While Embiid sure is talented, I'm not sure I'd agree with the adjective "most."  To me, Giannis, Towns, and Porzingis are all very talented and exciting young players in their own rights. 

I love the international flavor of the next generation.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-30, #1 on 1/12)
Post by: The One on January 14, 2017, 09:11:31 PM
And we get to do this again next year!!   8)  8)
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-30, #1 on 1/12)
Post by: Celtics18 on January 14, 2017, 09:15:48 PM
Double post.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-30, #1 on 1/12)
Post by: The One on January 14, 2017, 09:17:09 PM
Philly won too.  Don't look now, they're 5-5 in their last 10 games and on a franchise record 3 game win streak.
They are 8-7 since December 8th.

And they still have the 5th-worst record in the NBA.  Quality team.

Meanwhile, the Celtics are 12-3 in their last 15, but keep celebrating Philly's month of mediocrity after 3+ years of embarrassing basketball.
8-7 with Embiid limited to 28 minutes per game and Simmons yet to suit up.

8 wins over the 20/20 Hornets and 6 other non-playoff teams in the:

Knicks
Nets x 2
TWolves
Nuggets
Pistons
Pelicans

Truly "impressive."  ::)

Impressive for what was basically the worst team in the NBA for what like 5 years, more?
if you guys aren't watching Embiid right now you are missing out on the most entertaining player we've seen in years.

While Embiid sure is talented, I'm not sure I'd agree with the adjective "most."  To me, Giannis, Towns, and Porzingis are all very talented and exciting young players in their own rights. 

I love the international flavor of the next generation.

"Diversity Tomorrow because today is almost over."
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-30, #1 on 1/12)
Post by: LarBrd33 on January 14, 2017, 09:36:49 PM
Philly won too.  Don't look now, they're 5-5 in their last 10 games and on a franchise record 3 game win streak.
They are 8-7 since December 8th.

And they still have the 5th-worst record in the NBA.  Quality team.

Meanwhile, the Celtics are 12-3 in their last 15, but keep celebrating Philly's month of mediocrity after 3+ years of embarrassing basketball.
8-7 with Embiid limited to 28 minutes per game and Simmons yet to suit up.

8 wins over the 20/20 Hornets and 6 other non-playoff teams in the:

Knicks
Nets x 2
TWolves
Nuggets
Pistons
Pelicans

Truly "impressive."  ::)

Impressive for what was basically the worst team in the NBA for what like 5 years, more?
if you guys aren't watching Embiid right now you are missing out on the most entertaining player we've seen in years.

While Embiid sure is talented, I'm not sure I'd agree with the adjective "most."  To me, Giannis, Towns, and Porzingis are all very talented and exciting young players in their own rights. 

I love the international flavor of the next generation.
Yeah like I said... the entire Embiid Experience is Next-Level entertainment that transcends just basketball.   Like the Sixers having a Shirley Temple night in honor of his favorite drink... or ongoing twitter campaign to make him an all-star so he can get a date with Rihanna... or him convincing Dan Patrick he killed a Lion as a 6 year old and brought it back to his village... or him trolling Chandler Parsons on instagram... or the other day when he came out to Triple H's entrance music and spat water all over himself.   The Embiid experience offers daily shenanigans (https://twitter.com/ChristianCrosby/status/819386763026296833) outside of bball and it's pretty telling that just 27 games into his NBA career he has more all-star votes over an extremely popular and relatable player in the midst of his best season helping his team get far more wins (Thomas).     I haven't seen anything like this since Shaq in terms of a big man becoming this beloved this quickly. 

His on-court personality is equally bombastic.  But then in the actual game, his freakish unicorn offensive ability and game-changing defensive ability are pretty incredible for the young player.  You can already get a sense of how dominant he can be once he adapts to the NBA game and he's unleashed without a minutes restriction.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-30, #1 on 1/12)
Post by: KG Living Legend on January 14, 2017, 09:44:30 PM

 Three reasons to get excited about the 2014 NBA draft.

 Wiggins
 Parker
 Embiid

 Funny thing is all three still have great promise, but as far as who would I take on the Celtics the order is like this. I'll take.

 #1 Embiid
 #2 Parker
 #3 Wiggins
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-30, #1 on 1/12)
Post by: libermaniac on January 14, 2017, 10:24:38 PM
Phoenix just beat San Antonio in Mexico City, putting them 5 wins more than the Nets. The gap keeps growing! Now if only Miami would win some more.
awesome.  Miami seems to be the biggest threat now.  And the Lakers will probably go full-blown tank mode in an effort to keep their pick in this loaded draft.
Miami definitely is a threat but the Lakers are well out of striking distance with 15 wins.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-30, #1 on 1/12)
Post by: Celtics18 on January 14, 2017, 10:29:23 PM
Philly won too.  Don't look now, they're 5-5 in their last 10 games and on a franchise record 3 game win streak.
They are 8-7 since December 8th.

And they still have the 5th-worst record in the NBA.  Quality team.

Meanwhile, the Celtics are 12-3 in their last 15, but keep celebrating Philly's month of mediocrity after 3+ years of embarrassing basketball.
8-7 with Embiid limited to 28 minutes per game and Simmons yet to suit up.

8 wins over the 20/20 Hornets and 6 other non-playoff teams in the:

Knicks
Nets x 2
TWolves
Nuggets
Pistons
Pelicans

Truly "impressive."  ::)

Impressive for what was basically the worst team in the NBA for what like 5 years, more?
if you guys aren't watching Embiid right now you are missing out on the most entertaining player we've seen in years.

While Embiid sure is talented, I'm not sure I'd agree with the adjective "most."  To me, Giannis, Towns, and Porzingis are all very talented and exciting young players in their own rights. 

I love the international flavor of the next generation.
Yeah like I said... the entire Embiid Experience is Next-Level entertainment that transcends just basketball.   Like the Sixers having a Shirley Temple night in honor of his favorite drink... or ongoing twitter campaign to make him an all-star so he can get a date with Rihanna... or him convincing Dan Patrick he killed a Lion as a 6 year old and brought it back to his village... or him trolling Chandler Parsons on instagram... or the other day when he came out to Triple H's entrance music and spat water all over himself.   The Embiid experience offers daily shenanigans (https://twitter.com/ChristianCrosby/status/819386763026296833) outside of bball and it's pretty telling that just 27 games into his NBA career he has more all-star votes over an extremely popular and relatable player in the midst of his best season helping his team get far more wins (Thomas).     I haven't seen anything like this since Shaq in terms of a big man becoming this beloved this quickly. 

His on-court personality is equally bombastic.  But then in the actual game, his freakish unicorn offensive ability and game-changing defensive ability are pretty incredible for the young player.  You can already get a sense of how dominant he can be once he adapts to the NBA game and he's unleashed without a minutes restriction.

Sorry, personal preference.  I'm not that interested in the Rihanna and Shirley Temple and Twitter celebrity stuff.  But, I agree that he's a talented prospect.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-30, #1 on 1/12)
Post by: RockinRyA on January 14, 2017, 11:41:20 PM
Philly won too.  Don't look now, they're 5-5 in their last 10 games and on a franchise record 3 game win streak.
They are 8-7 since December 8th.

And they still have the 5th-worst record in the NBA.  Quality team.

Meanwhile, the Celtics are 12-3 in their last 15, but keep celebrating Philly's month of mediocrity after 3+ years of embarrassing basketball.
8-7 with Embiid limited to 28 minutes per game and Simmons yet to suit up.

8 wins over the 20/20 Hornets and 6 other non-playoff teams in the:

Knicks
Nets x 2
TWolves
Nuggets
Pistons
Pelicans

Truly "impressive."  ::)

Impressive for what was basically the worst team in the NBA for what like 5 years, more?
if you guys aren't watching Embiid right now you are missing out on the most entertaining player we've seen in years.

While Embiid sure is talented, I'm not sure I'd agree with the adjective "most."  To me, Giannis, Towns, and Porzingis are all very talented and exciting young players in their own rights. 

I love the international flavor of the next generation.
Yeah like I said... the entire Embiid Experience is Next-Level entertainment that transcends just basketball.   Like the Sixers having a Shirley Temple night in honor of his favorite drink... or ongoing twitter campaign to make him an all-star so he can get a date with Rihanna... or him convincing Dan Patrick he killed a Lion as a 6 year old and brought it back to his village... or him trolling Chandler Parsons on instagram... or the other day when he came out to Triple H's entrance music and spat water all over himself.   The Embiid experience offers daily shenanigans (https://twitter.com/ChristianCrosby/status/819386763026296833) outside of bball and it's pretty telling that just 27 games into his NBA career he has more all-star votes over an extremely popular and relatable player in the midst of his best season helping his team get far more wins (Thomas).     I haven't seen anything like this since Shaq in terms of a big man becoming this beloved this quickly. 

His on-court personality is equally bombastic.  But then in the actual game, his freakish unicorn offensive ability and game-changing defensive ability are pretty incredible for the young player.  You can already get a sense of how dominant he can be once he adapts to the NBA game and he's unleashed without a minutes restriction.

Beat me to it. I was about to mention Shaq as well. Basketball wise, while I find him vvery entertaining to watch, Im still having a hard time staying glued because of how atrocious the Sixers are.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-30, #1 on 1/12)
Post by: SCeltic34 on January 15, 2017, 12:35:31 AM
Philly won too.  Don't look now, they're 5-5 in their last 10 games and on a franchise record 3 game win streak.
They are 8-7 since December 8th.

And they still have the 5th-worst record in the NBA.  Quality team.

Meanwhile, the Celtics are 12-3 in their last 15, but keep celebrating Philly's month of mediocrity after 3+ years of embarrassing basketball.
8-7 with Embiid limited to 28 minutes per game and Simmons yet to suit up.

8 wins over the 20/20 Hornets and 6 other non-playoff teams in the:

Knicks
Nets x 2
TWolves
Nuggets
Pistons
Pelicans

Truly "impressive."  ::)

Impressive for what was basically the worst team in the NBA for what like 5 years, more?
if you guys aren't watching Embiid right now you are missing out on the most entertaining player we've seen in years.

While Embiid sure is talented, I'm not sure I'd agree with the adjective "most."  To me, Giannis, Towns, and Porzingis are all very talented and exciting young players in their own rights. 

I love the international flavor of the next generation.
Yeah like I said... the entire Embiid Experience is Next-Level entertainment that transcends just basketball.   Like the Sixers having a Shirley Temple night in honor of his favorite drink... or ongoing twitter campaign to make him an all-star so he can get a date with Rihanna... or him convincing Dan Patrick he killed a Lion as a 6 year old and brought it back to his village... or him trolling Chandler Parsons on instagram... or the other day when he came out to Triple H's entrance music and spat water all over himself.   The Embiid experience offers daily shenanigans (https://twitter.com/ChristianCrosby/status/819386763026296833) outside of bball and it's pretty telling that just 27 games into his NBA career he has more all-star votes over an extremely popular and relatable player in the midst of his best season helping his team get far more wins (Thomas).     I haven't seen anything like this since Shaq in terms of a big man becoming this beloved this quickly. 

His on-court personality is equally bombastic.  But then in the actual game, his freakish unicorn offensive ability and game-changing defensive ability are pretty incredible for the young player.  You can already get a sense of how dominant he can be once he adapts to the NBA game and he's unleashed without a minutes restriction.

Jeez.  Mention "Sixers" or "76ers" and any thread on C'sBlog will be hijacked and transformed into one of dozens of LarBrd33's lovefests for Embiid and the 76ers "process".  I simply brought up Philly's recent wins as it relates to Brooklyn's pick, and it devolves into yet another Philly discussion.

Don't get me wrong.  I don't mind your opinions, even though I disagree with most of your basketball assessments - especially your recent assessments of Brooklyn and the quality of their team - and even if they're posted merely to provoke specific reactions from other posters here.  But is there beyond but a few posts where you can bring up discussion other than Embiid's greatness and Philly's purported next decade of dominance?  I think every regular poster here already knows your fetish for the 76ers and their shameless "process" of a rebuild.  There's no need to discuss it over and over.  I'm far more impressed with what Ainge has managed to accomplish of recent than what Hinkie did.  We're 3rd in the East, currently have the best odds at the #1 pick, and have basically a guaranteed top 5 pick.  What other franchise has that?

Back to Brooklyn - and OUR pick.  We're exactly where we want to be.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-30, #1 on 1/12)
Post by: csfansince60s on January 15, 2017, 01:14:34 AM
Philly won too.  Don't look now, they're 5-5 in their last 10 games and on a franchise record 3 game win streak.
They are 8-7 since December 8th.

And they still have the 5th-worst record in the NBA.  Quality team.

Meanwhile, the Celtics are 12-3 in their last 15, but keep celebrating Philly's month of mediocrity after 3+ years of embarrassing basketball.
8-7 with Embiid limited to 28 minutes per game and Simmons yet to suit up.

8 wins over the 20/20 Hornets and 6 other non-playoff teams in the:

Knicks
Nets x 2
TWolves
Nuggets
Pistons
Pelicans

Truly "impressive."  ::)

Impressive for what was basically the worst team in the NBA for what like 5 years, more?
if you guys aren't watching Embiid right now you are missing out on the most entertaining player we've seen in years.

While Embiid sure is talented, I'm not sure I'd agree with the adjective "most."  To me, Giannis, Towns, and Porzingis are all very talented and exciting young players in their own rights. 

I love the international flavor of the next generation.
Yeah like I said... the entire Embiid Experience is Next-Level entertainment that transcends just basketball.   Like the Sixers having a Shirley Temple night in honor of his favorite drink... or ongoing twitter campaign to make him an all-star so he can get a date with Rihanna... or him convincing Dan Patrick he killed a Lion as a 6 year old and brought it back to his village... or him trolling Chandler Parsons on instagram... or the other day when he came out to Triple H's entrance music and spat water all over himself.   The Embiid experience offers daily shenanigans (https://twitter.com/ChristianCrosby/status/819386763026296833) outside of bball and it's pretty telling that just 27 games into his NBA career he has more all-star votes over an extremely popular and relatable player in the midst of his best season helping his team get far more wins (Thomas).     I haven't seen anything like this since Shaq in terms of a big man becoming this beloved this quickly. 

His on-court personality is equally bombastic.  But then in the actual game, his freakish unicorn offensive ability and game-changing defensive ability are pretty incredible for the young player.  You can already get a sense of how dominant he can be once he adapts to the NBA game and he's unleashed without a minutes restriction.

Jeez.  Mention "Sixers" or "76ers" and any thread on C'sBlog will be hijacked and transformed into one of dozens of LarBrd33's lovefests for Embiid and the 76ers "process".  I simply brought up Philly's recent wins as it relates to Brooklyn's pick, and it devolves into yet another Philly discussion.

Don't get me wrong.  I don't mind your opinions, even though I disagree with most of your basketball assessments - especially your recent assessments of Brooklyn and the quality of their team - and even if they're posted merely to provoke specific reactions from other posters here.  But is there beyond but a few posts where you can bring up discussion other than Embiid's greatness and Philly's purported next decade of dominance?  I think every regular poster here already knows your fetish for the 76ers and their shameless "process" of a rebuild.  There's no need to discuss it over and over.  I'm far more impressed with what Ainge has managed to accomplish of recent than what Hinkie did.  We're 3rd in the East, currently have the best odds at the #1 pick, and have basically a guaranteed top 5 pick.  What other franchise has that?

Back to Brooklyn - and OUR pick.  We're exactly where we want to be.

If I could give you 50 TPs for this post, I would.

Here's one to start.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-31, #1 on 1/14)
Post by: Emmette Bryant on January 15, 2017, 02:00:03 AM
Hope it's okay to say that the 76ers lost to the Wiz this evening.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-30, #1 on 1/12)
Post by: LarBrd33 on January 15, 2017, 02:18:06 AM
Philly won too.  Don't look now, they're 5-5 in their last 10 games and on a franchise record 3 game win streak.
They are 8-7 since December 8th.

And they still have the 5th-worst record in the NBA.  Quality team.

Meanwhile, the Celtics are 12-3 in their last 15, but keep celebrating Philly's month of mediocrity after 3+ years of embarrassing basketball.
8-7 with Embiid limited to 28 minutes per game and Simmons yet to suit up.

8 wins over the 20/20 Hornets and 6 other non-playoff teams in the:

Knicks
Nets x 2
TWolves
Nuggets
Pistons
Pelicans

Truly "impressive."  ::)

Impressive for what was basically the worst team in the NBA for what like 5 years, more?
if you guys aren't watching Embiid right now you are missing out on the most entertaining player we've seen in years.

While Embiid sure is talented, I'm not sure I'd agree with the adjective "most."  To me, Giannis, Towns, and Porzingis are all very talented and exciting young players in their own rights. 

I love the international flavor of the next generation.
Yeah like I said... the entire Embiid Experience is Next-Level entertainment that transcends just basketball.   Like the Sixers having a Shirley Temple night in honor of his favorite drink... or ongoing twitter campaign to make him an all-star so he can get a date with Rihanna... or him convincing Dan Patrick he killed a Lion as a 6 year old and brought it back to his village... or him trolling Chandler Parsons on instagram... or the other day when he came out to Triple H's entrance music and spat water all over himself.   The Embiid experience offers daily shenanigans (https://twitter.com/ChristianCrosby/status/819386763026296833) outside of bball and it's pretty telling that just 27 games into his NBA career he has more all-star votes over an extremely popular and relatable player in the midst of his best season helping his team get far more wins (Thomas).     I haven't seen anything like this since Shaq in terms of a big man becoming this beloved this quickly. 

His on-court personality is equally bombastic.  But then in the actual game, his freakish unicorn offensive ability and game-changing defensive ability are pretty incredible for the young player.  You can already get a sense of how dominant he can be once he adapts to the NBA game and he's unleashed without a minutes restriction.

Jeez.  Mention "Sixers" or "76ers" and any thread on C'sBlog will be hijacked and transformed into one of dozens of LarBrd33's lovefests for Embiid and the 76ers "process".  I simply brought up Philly's recent wins as it relates to Brooklyn's pick, and it devolves into yet another Philly discussion.

Don't get me wrong.  I don't mind your opinions, even though I disagree with most of your basketball assessments - especially your recent assessments of Brooklyn and the quality of their team - and even if they're posted merely to provoke specific reactions from other posters here.  But is there beyond but a few posts where you can bring up discussion other than Embiid's greatness and Philly's purported next decade of dominance?  I think every regular poster here already knows your fetish for the 76ers and their shameless "process" of a rebuild.  There's no need to discuss it over and over.  I'm far more impressed with what Ainge has managed to accomplish of recent than what Hinkie did.  We're 3rd in the East, currently have the best odds at the #1 pick, and have basically a guaranteed top 5 pick.  What other franchise has that?

Back to Brooklyn - and OUR pick.  We're exactly where we want to be.
Yeah.  Philly's recent string of wins is great for our Brooklyn pick, for sure.  Also the great thing is that there doesn't seem to be any consensus #1 pick in this draft yet, but multiple players thought to be worthy of a #1 pick.  So even if the pick ends up 5-8, we should be in great position.  Trust the process.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-30, #1 on 1/12)
Post by: Somebody on January 15, 2017, 05:25:32 AM
Philly won too.  Don't look now, they're 5-5 in their last 10 games and on a franchise record 3 game win streak.
They are 8-7 since December 8th.

And they still have the 5th-worst record in the NBA.  Quality team.

Meanwhile, the Celtics are 12-3 in their last 15, but keep celebrating Philly's month of mediocrity after 3+ years of embarrassing basketball.
8-7 with Embiid limited to 28 minutes per game and Simmons yet to suit up.

8 wins over the 20/20 Hornets and 6 other non-playoff teams in the:

Knicks
Nets x 2
TWolves
Nuggets
Pistons
Pelicans

Truly "impressive."  ::)

Impressive for what was basically the worst team in the NBA for what like 5 years, more?
if you guys aren't watching Embiid right now you are missing out on the most entertaining player we've seen in years.

While Embiid sure is talented, I'm not sure I'd agree with the adjective "most."  To me, Giannis, Towns, and Porzingis are all very talented and exciting young players in their own rights. 

I love the international flavor of the next generation.
Yeah like I said... the entire Embiid Experience is Next-Level entertainment that transcends just basketball.   Like the Sixers having a Shirley Temple night in honor of his favorite drink... or ongoing twitter campaign to make him an all-star so he can get a date with Rihanna... or him convincing Dan Patrick he killed a Lion as a 6 year old and brought it back to his village... or him trolling Chandler Parsons on instagram... or the other day when he came out to Triple H's entrance music and spat water all over himself.   The Embiid experience offers daily shenanigans (https://twitter.com/ChristianCrosby/status/819386763026296833) outside of bball and it's pretty telling that just 27 games into his NBA career he has more all-star votes over an extremely popular and relatable player in the midst of his best season helping his team get far more wins (Thomas).     I haven't seen anything like this since Shaq in terms of a big man becoming this beloved this quickly. 

His on-court personality is equally bombastic.  But then in the actual game, his freakish unicorn offensive ability and game-changing defensive ability are pretty incredible for the young player.  You can already get a sense of how dominant he can be once he adapts to the NBA game and he's unleashed without a minutes restriction.

Jeez.  Mention "Sixers" or "76ers" and any thread on C'sBlog will be hijacked and transformed into one of dozens of LarBrd33's lovefests for Embiid and the 76ers "process".  I simply brought up Philly's recent wins as it relates to Brooklyn's pick, and it devolves into yet another Philly discussion.

Don't get me wrong.  I don't mind your opinions, even though I disagree with most of your basketball assessments - especially your recent assessments of Brooklyn and the quality of their team - and even if they're posted merely to provoke specific reactions from other posters here.  But is there beyond but a few posts where you can bring up discussion other than Embiid's greatness and Philly's purported next decade of dominance?  I think every regular poster here already knows your fetish for the 76ers and their shameless "process" of a rebuild.  There's no need to discuss it over and over.  I'm far more impressed with what Ainge has managed to accomplish of recent than what Hinkie did.  We're 3rd in the East, currently have the best odds at the #1 pick, and have basically a guaranteed top 5 pick.  What other franchise has that?

Back to Brooklyn - and OUR pick.  We're exactly where we want to be.
Yeah.  Philly's recent string of wins is great for our Brooklyn pick, for sure.  Also the great thing is that there doesn't seem to be any consensus #1 pick in this draft yet, but multiple players thought to be worthy of a #1 pick.  So even if the pick ends up 5-8, we should be in great position.  Trust the process.
Yeah and as the celtics we should be looking to trade the brk pick to philly if it goes 1 with some more assets like rozier, Mem pick and philly gets something like 3 and 8. I think philly is really desperate for fultz while we can still afford to draft a guy like ball or giles and wait for them to develop. If this happens, I would like to select Giles and monk (gives us a big with star potential and another potential big time scorer).
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-31, #1 on 1/14)
Post by: Vox_Populi on January 15, 2017, 04:05:10 PM
No Lopez tonight and they play Houston. Time to increase our lead in the loss column.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-31, #1 on 1/14)
Post by: Denis998 on January 15, 2017, 04:21:33 PM
Im concerned with this Miami team. I think they can be legitimately worse than Brooklyn.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-31, #1 on 1/14)
Post by: Androslav on January 15, 2017, 04:33:27 PM
Im concerned with this Miami team. I think they can be legitimately worse than Brooklyn.
Me too. They know how to get it done. Winning the title or mini-tanking regardless.
Dallas looks primed for a good week here and there.
Minny will have something figured out at one point.
Lakers are 3rd in losses. Beware. They have a lot to lose there.
We have to look at the loss column, cause that is a certain, secure number. If "we" win there, we are good.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-31, #1 on 1/14)
Post by: libermaniac on January 15, 2017, 04:39:02 PM
We have to look at the loss column, cause that is a certain, secure number.
Couldn't disagree more.  With teams that rarely win, the WIN column is WAY more important than the loss column.  The Lakers have 15 wins.  Brooklyn has 8 wins in 1/2 the season.  By the time Brooklyn gets to 15 wins ... what worst case 25 games from now ... even if the Lakers only win 4 games in that time (which is highly unlikely), the Nets would still have to make up 4 games in the last 16 or so.  Trust me, the Lakers are out of reach.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-31, #1 on 1/14)
Post by: CelticGuardian on January 15, 2017, 05:02:50 PM
This is a historic time to be a C's fan. Jaylen is the first of the Brooklyn Celtics(James Young does not exist) and I can't wait for the other two to get here.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-31, #1 on 1/14)
Post by: Denis998 on January 15, 2017, 05:11:52 PM
Im concerned with this Miami team. I think they can be legitimately worse than Brooklyn.
Me too. They know how to get it done. Winning the title or mini-tanking regardless.
Dallas looks primed for a good week here and there.
Minny will have something figured out at one point.
Lakers are 3rd in losses. Beware. They have a lot to lose there.
We have to look at the loss column, cause that is a certain, secure number. If "we" win there, we are good.
I think the Lakers shouldn't be too much of a problem. From what I have seen, they seem to amass a lead and promptly give it up later in the game. I expect them to get better with that as the season continues to progress.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-31, #1 on 1/14)
Post by: trickybilly on January 15, 2017, 07:41:52 PM
This is a historic time to be a C's fan. Jaylen is the first of the Brooklyn Celtics(James Young does not exist) and I can't wait for the other two to get here.
Well, he is the reason we decided to not make Paul Pierce a lifetime Celtic, so frankly he better be [dang] good. Like Pierce good.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-32, #1 on 1/15)
Post by: Redz on January 15, 2017, 08:17:35 PM
Down 30 with 1:30 to go

I'm updating the standings!
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-32, #1 on 1/15)
Post by: jdz101 on January 15, 2017, 08:23:33 PM
The NBA-wide love affair with the 3 ball continues.

Nets and Rockets just equalled the combined 3 point attempt record with 88 total attempts.

Pretty sure the standing record was a 2OT game though and they just equalled it in regulation.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-32, #1 on 1/15)
Post by: The One on January 15, 2017, 08:59:03 PM
At least they held the Rockets to only 137 pts.

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-32, #1 on 1/15)
Post by: jpotter33 on January 15, 2017, 09:45:53 PM
At this point, can the Nets even realistically catch up to anyone other than the Heat?

The Heat are 2.5 games (3 actual wins) up on the Nets;

The Sixers are 5 games up on them (4 actual wins);

And everyone else is 5 full games/wins above the Nets.

Worst case scenario, I'm not even sure that they win 5 more games this season.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-32, #1 on 1/15)
Post by: saltlover on January 15, 2017, 09:48:04 PM
At this point, can the Nets even realistically catch up to anyone other than the Heat?

The Heat are 2.5 games (3 actual wins) up on the Nets;

The Sixers are 5 games up on them (4 actual wins);

And everyone else is 5 full games/wins above the Nets.

Worst case scenario, I'm not even sure that they win 5 more games this season.

I think the Nets have about 10 more wins in them.  It's very tough to see anyone but the Heat catching them at this point, and even that's unlikely.  Although I dont think Philly wins another game this month, which will her people here a little nervous.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-32, #1 on 1/15)
Post by: Boris Badenov on January 15, 2017, 09:49:00 PM
The NBA-wide love affair with the 3 ball continues.

Nets and Rockets just equalled the combined 3 point attempt record with 88 total attempts.

Pretty sure the standing record was a 2OT game though and they just equalled it in regulation.

I'm not crazy about how it makes the game look, but when you shoot 21-44 as the Rockets did, it's hard to argue that you're shooting it too often.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-32, #1 on 1/15)
Post by: Boris Badenov on January 15, 2017, 09:55:47 PM
At this point, can the Nets even realistically catch up to anyone other than the Heat?

The Heat are 2.5 games (3 actual wins) up on the Nets;

The Sixers are 5 games up on them (4 actual wins);

And everyone else is 5 full games/wins above the Nets.

Worst case scenario, I'm not even sure that they win 5 more games this season.

I think the Nets have about 10 more wins in them.  It's very tough to see anyone but the Heat catching them at this point, and even that's unlikely.  Although I dont think Philly wins another game this month, which will her people here a little nervous.

ESPN's simulator agrees with you (19 wins). And also has Philly falling behind Miami.

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/page/BPI-Playoff-Odds/espn-nba-basketball-power-index-playoff-odds
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-32, #1 on 1/15)
Post by: Ogaju on January 15, 2017, 10:03:54 PM
I almost hit the roof when I saw Boston chance of top 3 pick <0.1

THEN I REMEMBERED that we are actually good, and my excitement at the draft is due to the ineptitude of our Brooklyn affiliate.  ;D

This is all so confusing and hilarious at the same time. I went from incredulity and oh never mind in a nanosecond.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-32, #1 on 1/15)
Post by: fantankerous on January 15, 2017, 10:19:48 PM
At this point, can the Nets even realistically catch up to anyone other than the Heat?

The Heat are 2.5 games (3 actual wins) up on the Nets;

The Sixers are 5 games up on them (4 actual wins);

And everyone else is 5 full games/wins above the Nets.

Worst case scenario, I'm not even sure that they win 5 more games this season.

I think the Nets have about 10 more wins in them.  It's very tough to see anyone but the Heat catching them at this point, and even that's unlikely.  Although I dont think Philly wins another game this month, which will her people here a little nervous.

I agree.  However, Philly plays in Milwaukee tomorrow afternoon after the Bucks played in Atlanta tonight.  It's the quintessential trap game for Milwaukee.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-31, #1 on 1/14)
Post by: CelticGuardian on January 16, 2017, 12:12:15 PM
This is a historic time to be a C's fan. Jaylen is the first of the Brooklyn Celtics(James Young does not exist) and I can't wait for the other two to get here.
Well, he is the reason we decided to not make Paul Pierce a lifetime Celtic, so frankly he better be [dang] good. Like Pierce good.

I have hope Jaylen can become that, or at least Gordon Hayward good with an a even more all around game. He's been showing flashes of what he can do this whole season.

Seriously, this is a dynasty in the making. The amazing little man Isaiah that finishes among the trees, with big bully Mahcus Smaht, and the swiss army knife Al Horford all surrounded by the Brooklyn Celtics, who should all be All Star level players. It would the best show in town if Danny could pull it off.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-32, #1 on 1/15)
Post by: Vox_Populi on January 16, 2017, 05:50:36 PM
Philly up 13 on the Bucks with less than four minutes to go...

Miami are the only real threat for best odds I think.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-32, #1 on 1/15)
Post by: libermaniac on January 16, 2017, 06:17:37 PM
The Heat hosts Dallas this Thursday, btw.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-32, #1 on 1/15)
Post by: mef730 on January 16, 2017, 06:49:32 PM
At this point, can the Nets even realistically catch up to anyone other than the Heat?

The Heat are 2.5 games (3 actual wins) up on the Nets;

The Sixers are 5 games up on them (4 actual wins);

And everyone else is 5 full games/wins above the Nets.

Worst case scenario, I'm not even sure that they win 5 more games this season.

I think the Nets have about 10 more wins in them.  It's very tough to see anyone but the Heat catching them at this point, and even that's unlikely.  Although I dont think Philly wins another game this month, which will her people here a little nervous.

I agree.  However, Philly plays in Milwaukee tomorrow afternoon after the Bucks played in Atlanta tonight.  It's the quintessential trap game for Milwaukee.

And you, my friend, receive a TP for your Nostradamusian prediction.

Mike
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-32, #1 on 1/15)
Post by: ManUp on January 16, 2017, 07:02:01 PM
The Nets are proving me wrong.

I was always under the impression you had to purposefully tank to be worst in the league, but they have absolutely no reason to tank yet there they are.

I guess sometimes you really are just that bad.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-32, #1 on 1/15)
Post by: LarBrd33 on January 16, 2017, 08:29:00 PM
Philly up 13 on the Bucks with less than four minutes to go...

Miami are the only real threat for best odds I think.
Wow, they won again.  They are now 6-1 in Embiid's last 7 games.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-32, #1 on 1/15)
Post by: A Future of Stevens on January 16, 2017, 08:36:40 PM
Philly up 13 on the Bucks with less than four minutes to go...

Miami are the only real threat for best odds I think.
Wow, they won again.  They are now 6-1 in Embiid's last 7 games.

Imagine when simmons gets back, and they may be crazy. Embiid is goijg to make the 76ers a force going forward.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-32, #1 on 1/15)
Post by: LarBrd33 on January 16, 2017, 08:57:28 PM
Philly up 13 on the Bucks with less than four minutes to go...

Miami are the only real threat for best odds I think.
Wow, they won again.  They are now 6-1 in Embiid's last 7 games.

Imagine when simmons gets back, and they may be crazy. Embiid is goijg to make the 76ers a force going forward.
It sounds nuts, but they could actually make the playoffs if they keep this up.  They have an identical 13-26 record to Boston two seasons ago when they abruptly stopped tanking and rallied their way to a 40-42 record and playoffs seed.  Unlike Boston though, they wouldn't rally at the expense of a quality draft pick.  Boston ended up getting the 16th pick, because of that playoff run... but because Philly has swap rights with the Kings, they could theoretically make the playoffs and still end up with a top 10 pick. 

Here's hoping Brooklyn doesn't go on an improbable run.  There's still a lot of games left in this season.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-32, #1 on 1/15)
Post by: A Future of Stevens on January 16, 2017, 09:47:08 PM
Philly up 13 on the Bucks with less than four minutes to go...

Miami are the only real threat for best odds I think.
Wow, they won again.  They are now 6-1 in Embiid's last 7 games.

Imagine when simmons gets back, and they may be crazy. Embiid is goijg to make the 76ers a force going forward.
It sounds nuts, but they could actually make the playoffs if they keep this up.  They have an identical 13-26 record to Boston two seasons ago when they abruptly stopped tanking and rallied their way to a 40-42 record and playoffs seed.  Unlike Boston though, they wouldn't rally at the expense of a quality draft pick.  Boston ended up getting the 16th pick, because of that playoff run... but because Philly has swap rights with the Kings, they could theoretically make the playoffs and still end up with a top 10 pick. 

Here's hoping Brooklyn doesn't go on an improbable run.  There's still a lot of games left in this season.
While I agree with most of what you said, I doubt they will have the right conditions to make the playoffs. I think that their lack of depth outside of the center position combined with the rookie factor would keep them out if it even if they got good quickly.

But the sooner they get good the sooner the East continues to rise.

Also lets not pretend like the Nets have a transcendant center and  potential multi time all star rookie coming to the rescue. They have a Jeremy Lin coming.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-32, #1 on 1/15)
Post by: LarBrd33 on January 16, 2017, 09:51:01 PM
Philly up 13 on the Bucks with less than four minutes to go...

Miami are the only real threat for best odds I think.
Wow, they won again.  They are now 6-1 in Embiid's last 7 games.

Imagine when simmons gets back, and they may be crazy. Embiid is goijg to make the 76ers a force going forward.
It sounds nuts, but they could actually make the playoffs if they keep this up.  They have an identical 13-26 record to Boston two seasons ago when they abruptly stopped tanking and rallied their way to a 40-42 record and playoffs seed.  Unlike Boston though, they wouldn't rally at the expense of a quality draft pick.  Boston ended up getting the 16th pick, because of that playoff run... but because Philly has swap rights with the Kings, they could theoretically make the playoffs and still end up with a top 10 pick. 

Here's hoping Brooklyn doesn't go on an improbable run.  There's still a lot of games left in this season.
While I agree with most of what you said, I doubt they will have the right conditions to make the playoffs. I think that their lack of depth outside of the center position combined with the rookie factor would keep them out if it even if they got good quickly.

But the sooner they get good the sooner the East continues to rise.

Also lets not pretend like the Nets have a transcendant center and  potential multi time all star rookie coming to the rescue. They have a Jeremy Lin coming.
Philly's schedule gets tougher and I think it's pretty unlikely they'd rally with Embiid sitting out back-to-backs.  But it's clear when the kid is on the court, he's progressively getting more and more dominant.  Amongst starting centers, he leads the league in Opponent FG% at the rim.  He's a game changer on that end.  Offensively, he's an automatic 20ppg despite averaging less than 30mpg.   Seems like they should win enough to keep distance above Brooklyn, but I agree it's going to be extremely difficult for them to really flirt with the playoffs this season.   
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-32, #1 on 1/15)
Post by: SHAQATTACK on January 16, 2017, 09:53:27 PM
If they let Simmons play  soon they could make the playoffs
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-32, #1 on 1/15)
Post by: Boris Badenov on January 16, 2017, 10:18:04 PM
I'm getting concerned that I will soon be in "expecting Brooklyn to get the #1 pick even though I know it's a 25% chance" mode.

That's a bad mode to be in. As we all know.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-32, #1 on 1/15)
Post by: chilidawg on January 16, 2017, 10:22:35 PM
Philly up 13 on the Bucks with less than four minutes to go...

Miami are the only real threat for best odds I think.
Wow, they won again.  They are now 6-1 in Embiid's last 7 games.

Imagine when simmons gets back, and they may be crazy. Embiid is goijg to make the 76ers a force going forward.


Here's hoping Brooklyn doesn't go on an improbable run.  There's still a lot of games left in this season.

It does seem improbable, but stranger things have happened.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-32, #1 on 1/15)
Post by: liam on January 16, 2017, 10:44:53 PM
Ever since I said "Phoenix Stinks" on here they haven't stunk...
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-32, #1 on 1/15)
Post by: saltlover on January 16, 2017, 10:49:36 PM
Ever since I said "Phoenix Stinks" on here they haven't stunk...

Time for you to call out Miami.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-32, #1 on 1/15)
Post by: hwangjini_1 on January 16, 2017, 10:58:22 PM
I'm getting concerned that I will soon be in "expecting Brooklyn to get the #1 pick even though I know it's a 25% chance" mode.

That's a bad mode to be in. As we all know.
not so sure i agree. 25% chance is best any team can have. we can at least pretend, make believe, wish upon a star, enjoy the moment now and have fun.

draft wise, it doesnt get any better than this, so enjoy while you can.  ;D
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-32, #1 on 1/15)
Post by: hwangjini_1 on January 16, 2017, 11:00:56 PM
Philly up 13 on the Bucks with less than four minutes to go...

Miami are the only real threat for best odds I think.
Wow, they won again.  They are now 6-1 in Embiid's last 7 games.

Imagine when simmons gets back, and they may be crazy. Embiid is goijg to make the 76ers a force going forward.
simmons might be a great player in the nba. he might be a great passer with serious flaws in shooting and defense and attitude. he might turn out, as some #1s do, as nothing super special.

we just dont know right now. let's wait and see how he does. i expect him to make the sixers better. how could he not???? but how good? let's wait and see.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-32, #1 on 1/15)
Post by: RAAAAAAAANDY on January 16, 2017, 11:01:32 PM
I'm getting concerned that I will soon be in "expecting Brooklyn to get the #1 pick even though I know it's a 25% chance" mode.

That's a bad mode to be in. As we all know.
not so sure i agree. 25% chance is best any team can have. we can at least pretend, make believe, wish upon a star, enjoy the moment now and have fun.

draft wise, it doesnt get any better than this, so enjoy while you can.  ;D

Sixers were a bit higher than that last year actually. But yes the #1 slot is 25%.

Nets are going to be last though, the C's have the top slot for sure.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-32, #1 on 1/15)
Post by: fantankerous on January 17, 2017, 12:50:01 AM
At this point, can the Nets even realistically catch up to anyone other than the Heat?

The Heat are 2.5 games (3 actual wins) up on the Nets;

The Sixers are 5 games up on them (4 actual wins);

And everyone else is 5 full games/wins above the Nets.

Worst case scenario, I'm not even sure that they win 5 more games this season.

I think the Nets have about 10 more wins in them.  It's very tough to see anyone but the Heat catching them at this point, and even that's unlikely.  Although I dont think Philly wins another game this month, which will her people here a little nervous.

I agree.  However, Philly plays in Milwaukee tomorrow afternoon after the Bucks played in Atlanta tonight.  It's the quintessential trap game for Milwaukee.

And you, my friend, receive a TP for your Nostradamusian prediction.

Mike

And a TP back at you. I, of course, bought PowerBall tickets immediately after the game. 😜
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-32, #1 on 1/15)
Post by: max215 on January 17, 2017, 07:15:11 PM
Kyle Lowry will not play against the Nets due to rest. Not great news for the pick, but I'd imagine Toronto's still heavily favored. Worst case scenario we pick up a game on the Raps.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-32, #1 on 1/15)
Post by: Smokeeye123 on January 17, 2017, 07:23:16 PM
Kyle Lowry will not play against the Nets due to rest. Not great news for the pick, but I'd imagine Toronto's still heavily favored. Worst case scenario we pick up a game on the Raps.

TP

Any win is a win for the celtics between these two.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-32, #1 on 1/15)
Post by: celticsclay on January 17, 2017, 08:06:14 PM
Kyle Lowry will not play against the Nets due to rest. Not great news for the pick, but I'd imagine Toronto's still heavily favored. Worst case scenario we pick up a game on the Raps.

I was just about to write this
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-32, #1 on 1/15)
Post by: mef730 on January 17, 2017, 08:10:28 PM
Toronto goes up 11-0, ends quarter down 29-26. Blame Canada.

Mike
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-32, #1 on 1/15)
Post by: MattyIce on January 17, 2017, 08:38:57 PM
seriously?  is bkn going get a win against toronto (although it would help our seeding)? can't they just lay down already?? up 3 at the half >:(
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-32, #1 on 1/15)
Post by: Phantom255x on January 17, 2017, 08:43:03 PM
seriously?  is bkn going get a win against toronto (although it would help our seeding)? can't they just lay down already?? up 3 at the half >:(

Not worried, Toronto will go on one big run in the second half and secure victory.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-32, #1 on 1/15)
Post by: Ogaju on January 17, 2017, 09:02:21 PM
what is Brad doing in Brooklyn... he needs to change the asst coach that is assigned to the Raptors. We (Toronto Celtics) need this win.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-32, #1 on 1/15)
Post by: Quetzalcoatl on January 17, 2017, 09:15:38 PM
BK is the worst 4th qrt team and I'm not worried, but if they have to beat someone, I'm glad its Toronto
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-32, #1 on 1/15)
Post by: Granath on January 17, 2017, 09:18:09 PM
Toronto is now up 11. Not overly worried.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-32, #1 on 1/15)
Post by: Ilikesports17 on January 17, 2017, 09:28:52 PM
Honestly I would have rather Brooklyn taken this one, but can't complain. Is that 11 straight?
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-32, #1 on 1/15)
Post by: Ilikesports17 on January 17, 2017, 09:32:21 PM
Ooh. Miami up 3 in the 4th. That's pretty big if they could pull it off.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-32, #1 on 1/15)
Post by: Vox_Populi on January 17, 2017, 09:42:12 PM
Ooh. Miami up 3 in the 4th. That's pretty big if they could pull it off.
Up 6 now. Can I believe..?
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-32, #1 on 1/15)
Post by: Ogaju on January 17, 2017, 09:42:33 PM
Honestly I would have rather Brooklyn taken this one, but can't complain. Is that 11 straight?

No no no... we can handle Toronto. What we really need is Brooklyn to take care of the Tank.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-32, #1 on 1/15)
Post by: Ogaju on January 17, 2017, 09:44:55 PM
Miami by 11 !!!! Oh Oh
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-32, #1 on 1/15)
Post by: SCeltic34 on January 17, 2017, 09:45:05 PM
Ooh. Miami up 3 in the 4th. That's pretty big if they could pull it off.

It'd be really great if they could pull off the win.  Especially since the Heat play Brooklyn twice soon, on the 25th and 30th if I'm not mistaken.

Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-32, #1 on 1/15)
Post by: MattyIce on January 17, 2017, 09:45:24 PM
Ooh. Miami up 3 in the 4th. That's pretty big if they could pull it off.
Up 6 now. Can I believe..?

11 and the ball...i think...not quite yet
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-32, #1 on 1/15)
Post by: TrueFan on January 17, 2017, 09:46:01 PM
Good night so far for the pick.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-32, #1 on 1/15)
Post by: SCeltic34 on January 17, 2017, 09:48:26 PM
Caris LeVert is the lone bright spot in the misery of the Nets organization.  If he can stay healthy he has the potential to become a nice player.  Good athlete, active defensively, and has some solid skills on offense.  He's had his minutes limited thus far, much to the chagrin of Nets fans, but he's looked good when he gets them.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-32, #1 on 1/15)
Post by: Ogaju on January 17, 2017, 09:48:30 PM
Heat by 14
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-32, #1 on 1/15)
Post by: jpotter33 on January 17, 2017, 09:51:13 PM
Don't screw this up, Heat! This could be yuuuuggggeeeee (Trump voice) for our pick!
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-32, #1 on 1/15)
Post by: Monkhouse on January 17, 2017, 09:51:52 PM
Caris LeVert is the lone bright spot in the misery of the Nets organization.  If he can stay healthy he has the potential to become a nice player.  Good athlete, active defensively, and has some solid skills on offense.  He's had his minutes limited thus far, much to the chagrin of Nets fans, but he's looked good when he gets them.

Yep, I agree, he was a personal binkie of mine. Great slasher with ability to create separation, and potential as a two way player.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-32, #1 on 1/15)
Post by: positivitize on January 17, 2017, 09:53:10 PM
I think a Heat win is more important than a Nets loss right now...

what a weird thing to say and mean...
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-32, #1 on 1/15)
Post by: max215 on January 17, 2017, 09:54:29 PM
Wow, 4-win buffer. That's crazy.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-32, #1 on 1/15)
Post by: Ogaju on January 17, 2017, 09:55:03 PM
what is wrong with Harden????

Stop scoring.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-32, #1 on 1/15)
Post by: positivitize on January 17, 2017, 09:55:16 PM
Wow, 4-win buffer. That's crazy.

I look at it kinda like a 1 win buffer, because I assume the heat will find a way to lose to the nets 3x in a row.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-32, #1 on 1/15)
Post by: Vox_Populi on January 17, 2017, 09:56:04 PM
I was worried, entering this season, that Bogdanovic might get hot enough to win Brooklyn some games, but he's actually just terrible.

I don't know when the Nets will win again.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-32, #1 on 1/15)
Post by: Emmette Bryant on January 17, 2017, 09:58:23 PM
Nets gave up 61 points in the second half imagine that.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-32, #1 on 1/15)
Post by: Ogaju on January 17, 2017, 10:01:25 PM
game over in Miami, Boston wins.

game over in Brooklyn, Boston wins.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-32, #1 on 1/15)
Post by: Smokeeye123 on January 17, 2017, 10:15:32 PM
What a great night for the tankathon!

If the Nets stay at the bottom we will be guarnateed a top 4 pick! And likely a top 3!
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-32, #1 on 1/15)
Post by: Phantom255x on January 17, 2017, 10:17:39 PM
As long as this pick lands Top-2, I'll be ecstatic.

#1 is the dream, #2 would be great too.

Ping Pong Balls better work in our favor with all the dedication we put into this lol, especially considering the Nets are likely finishing dead last this season.

I swear, if the Heat or even the Lakers get a Top-2 pick  >:(
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-32, #1 on 1/15)
Post by: positivitize on January 17, 2017, 10:22:36 PM
Now we just need Dallas to outscore the Bulls over the final 2 minutes...
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-32, #1 on 1/15)
Post by: MattyIce on January 17, 2017, 10:24:25 PM
Dallas win would be the trifecta tonight, one stop away
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-32, #1 on 1/15)
Post by: Ogaju on January 17, 2017, 10:26:32 PM
Timberwolves leading the Spurs... this is approaching Pareto !!!!
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-32, #1 on 1/15)
Post by: jpotter33 on January 17, 2017, 10:27:04 PM
game over in Miami, Boston wins.

game over in Brooklyn, Boston wins.

Dallas beat Chicago, too! And that's another win for us, along with helping the Bulls lose and giving them more incentive to trade Butler!
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-32, #1 on 1/15)
Post by: positivitize on January 17, 2017, 10:28:48 PM
Nets loss? Check.
Heat win? Check.
Dallas win? Check

Come on T-wolves. Let's get 4 in a row!
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-32, #1 on 1/15)
Post by: saltlover on January 17, 2017, 10:29:20 PM
Timberwolves leading the Spurs... this is approaching Pareto !!!!

Not quite how I'd use "Pareto", but TP for the attempt :)
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-32, #1 on 1/15)
Post by: max215 on January 17, 2017, 10:30:01 PM
What a huge night for us...and we didn't even play. Thank you, Danny Ainge (and Billy King)!
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-32, #1 on 1/15)
Post by: Phantom255x on January 17, 2017, 10:33:09 PM
game over in Miami, Boston wins.

game over in Brooklyn, Boston wins.

Dallas beat Chicago, too! And that's another win for us, along with helping the Bulls lose and giving them more incentive to trade Butler!

http://www.celticsblog.com/2017/1/16/14291114/love-him-but-going-after-jimmy-butler-is-a-big-mistake

And this is where I explain why trading for Butler would actually be a mistake.

Though I will admit, 24 points, 9 rebounds, 12 assists. Very nice from Butler tonight.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-32, #1 on 1/15)
Post by: libermaniac on January 17, 2017, 10:34:08 PM
And the Heat host the Mavs on Thursday. Another win for the Cs.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-32, #1 on 1/15)
Post by: hwangjini_1 on January 17, 2017, 10:36:11 PM
Sometimes life is very, very good.  Tps for everyone!
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-32, #1 on 1/15)
Post by: positivitize on January 17, 2017, 10:40:08 PM
Bleh. David Lee playing out of his mind for the spurs. Up 9 on the wolves now with 8 to go.

David lee still finding ways to screw the celtics.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-32, #1 on 1/15)
Post by: Phantom255x on January 17, 2017, 10:41:46 PM
Bleh. David Lee playing out of his mind for the spurs. Up 9 on the wolves now with 8 to go.

David lee still finding ways to screw the celtics.

What's with these Wolves blowing leads so many times.

Didn't they blow like a 15 point lead to the C's earlier this season?
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-32, #1 on 1/15)
Post by: saltlover on January 17, 2017, 10:43:21 PM
Bleh. David Lee playing out of his mind for the spurs. Up 9 on the wolves now with 8 to go.

David lee still finding ways to screw the celtics.

What's with these Wolves blowing leads so many times.

Didn't they blow like a 15 point lead to the C's earlier this season?

They're not good.  It's pretty simple.  Disappointing given the talent level, but still straightforward.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-32, #1 on 1/15)
Post by: nickagneta on January 17, 2017, 10:46:02 PM
Bleh. David Lee playing out of his mind for the spurs. Up 9 on the wolves now with 8 to go.

David lee still finding ways to screw the celtics.

What's with these Wolves blowing leads so many times.

Didn't they blow like a 15 point lead to the C's earlier this season?
It might have something to do with their average player being like 12. Those little kids gotta grow up and learn a thing or two.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-32, #1 on 1/15)
Post by: Emmette Bryant on January 17, 2017, 10:55:01 PM
Bleh. David Lee playing out of his mind for the spurs. Up 9 on the wolves now with 8 to go.

David lee still finding ways to screw the celtics.

What's with these Wolves blowing leads so many times.

Didn't they blow like a 15 point lead to the C's earlier this season?
It might have something to do with their average player being like 12. Those little kids gotta grow up and learn a thing or two.

I really don't mind if the T Wolves lose a bunch more games.  They'd pick ahead of the Lakers, Heat and 76ers.  And don't forget, we get their second round pick.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-32, #1 on 1/15)
Post by: positivitize on January 17, 2017, 11:01:38 PM
oh well. cant win them all
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-32, #1 on 1/15)
Post by: liam on January 17, 2017, 11:01:57 PM
Nets loss? Check.
Heat win? Check.
Dallas win? Check

Come on T-wolves. Let's get 4 in a row!


Great night all the same. That Miami win is huge for the pick! 4 games is going to really hard for Brooklyn to make up...
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-32, #1 on 1/15)
Post by: Ogaju on January 17, 2017, 11:49:33 PM
Timberwolves leading the Spurs... this is approaching Pareto !!!!

Not quite how I'd use "Pareto", but TP for the attempt :)

LOL ... you are of course right...what we need to happen to the Nets is the exact opposite of a Pareto. The Nets must lose for us to win. So it is a lose-win, and not a win-win. I should used 'utopia' instead. TP to you for catching that.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-32, #1 on 1/15)
Post by: konkmv on January 17, 2017, 11:58:06 PM
I would not trade both of nets picks..  Both are top 5... Trade something else top get a bog guy.. And try to get another Harford guy in free agency
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-33, #1 on 1/17)
Post by: mef730 on January 18, 2017, 10:00:59 AM
Three huge wins/losses for us. Among all the glorious nights that our draft pick has had this year, last night was definitely one of the gloriousest.

Mike
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-33, #1 on 1/17)
Post by: libermaniac on January 18, 2017, 10:06:37 PM
Sixers win again.   I don't think they are in the discussion anymore.  I think we'll probably only be focusing on the Heat and perhaps the Suns from here on out.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-33, #1 on 1/17)
Post by: fantankerous on January 18, 2017, 10:33:31 PM
Sixers win again.   I don't think they are in the discussion anymore.  I think we'll probably only be focusing on the Heat and perhaps the Suns from here on out.

I think it's really just Miami we need to worry about.  The Suns would have to be unbelievably bad to make up a five game deficit over their final 41 games. 
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-33, #1 on 1/17)
Post by: fantankerous on January 18, 2017, 10:36:44 PM
It's hard for me to imagine BKN cracking 20 wins this season.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-33, #1 on 1/17)
Post by: libermaniac on January 18, 2017, 10:59:13 PM
Sixers win again.   I don't think they are in the discussion anymore.  I think we'll probably only be focusing on the Heat and perhaps the Suns from here on out.

I think it's really just Miami we need to worry about.  The Suns would have to be unbelievably bad to make up a five game deficit over their final 41 games.
Well, the Heat are 4 games up on the Nets.  So, are you saying the worry is over? ;)
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-33, #1 on 1/17)
Post by: tazzmaniac on January 18, 2017, 11:28:08 PM
Sixers win again.   I don't think they are in the discussion anymore.  I think we'll probably only be focusing on the Heat and perhaps the Suns from here on out.

I think it's really just Miami we need to worry about.  The Suns would have to be unbelievably bad to make up a five game deficit over their final 41 games.
Well, the Heat are 4 games up on the Nets.  So, are you saying the worry is over? ;)
The Heat and Nets play 3 games against each other.  I'll get comfortable when the Heat are 6 games up. 
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-33, #1 on 1/17)
Post by: hwangjini_1 on January 18, 2017, 11:52:09 PM
Another point to keep in mind is that the nets are 1-18 on the road. And, most of their remaining games are on the road. 

This is a good thing.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-33, #1 on 1/17)
Post by: mef730 on January 19, 2017, 11:00:27 AM
Another point to keep in mind is that the nets are 1-18 on the road. And, most of their remaining games are on the road. 

This is a good thing.

True. 22 road, 19 home. Unfortunately, two of those home games are against Miami.

Actually, the home schedule has quite a few winnable games for the Nets.

San Antonio
Miami (2X)
NYK (2X)
Indiana
Toronto
Washington
Memphis
Milwaukee
OKC
Boston
Dalllas
Detroit
Phoenix
Philly
Orlando
Atlanta
Chicago

The plus side is that they have seven games in the first 12 days of April (including Orlando, ATL and Chicago at home). I'm hoping that they sit Lopez like they did last year, and that Atlanta and Chicago are fighting for playoff spots until the last day.

Mike
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-33, #1 on 1/17)
Post by: footey on January 19, 2017, 11:20:37 AM
IF Brooklyn finishes last:

We have a 25% chance of landing the 1st pick.

We have a 44.9% chance of landing a top 2 pick.

We have a 60.5% chance of landing a top 3 pick.

We are guaranteed to land a top 4 pick.

Let's keep this perspective, folks.  Maybe more on getting a top 3 or 4 pick, since the odds are still against us of landing a top 2 pick (which in likelihood will be Fultz and Ball).
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-33, #1 on 1/17)
Post by: The One on January 19, 2017, 11:28:16 AM
IF Brooklyn finishes last:

We have a 25% chance of landing the 1st pick.

We have a 44.9% chance of landing a top 2 pick.

We have a 60.5% chance of landing a top 3 pick.

We are guaranteed to land a top 4 pick.

Let's keep this perspective, folks.  Maybe more on getting a top 3 or 4 pick, since the odds are still against us of landing a top 2 pick (which in likelihood will be Fultz and Ball).

Yes...this a good reminder.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-33, #1 on 1/17)
Post by: libermaniac on January 19, 2017, 12:16:52 PM
IF Brooklyn finishes last:

We have a 25% chance of landing the 1st pick.

We have a 44.9% chance of landing a top 2 pick.

We have a 60.5% chance of landing a top 3 pick.

We are guaranteed to land a top 4 pick.

Let's keep this perspective, folks.  Maybe more on getting a top 3 or 4 pick, since the odds are still against us of landing a top 2 pick (which in likelihood will be Fultz and Ball).

Yes...this a good reminder.
And, if Brooklyn finishes 2nd to last its:

19.9% 1st pick
18.8% 2nd
17.1% 3rd
31.9% 4th
12.3% 5th.

So, the odds don't drop THAT much.  Either way, 1 or 2 puts us in a very enviable position.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-33, #1 on 1/17)
Post by: rondofan1255 on January 19, 2017, 12:20:06 PM
A guaranteed Top 4 or 5 pick in this draft would look good for the C's.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-33, #1 on 1/17)
Post by: CelticGuardian on January 19, 2017, 12:37:58 PM
A guaranteed Top 4 or 5 pick in this draft would look good for the C's.

Still love to get a top 2. One of Fultz or Ball could offer more security and extend our title window beyond IT's prime. What's the feeling on Smart around here? I assume people on this thread are thinking 5 years down the road like me.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-33, #1 on 1/17)
Post by: mef730 on January 19, 2017, 12:55:01 PM
IF Brooklyn finishes last:

We have a 25% chance of landing the 1st pick.

We have a 44.9% chance of landing a top 2 pick.

We have a 60.5% chance of landing a top 3 pick.

We are guaranteed to land a top 4 pick.

Let's keep this perspective, folks.  Maybe more on getting a top 3 or 4 pick, since the odds are still against us of landing a top 2 pick (which in likelihood will be Fultz and Ball).

Nope, no perspective for me. I have no clue what the Nets will do over the summer or what their team will look like next year so, if they have the worst record, I'm going b@lls to the wall that we get the #1 pick this year.

Mike
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-33, #1 on 1/17)
Post by: clevelandceltic on January 19, 2017, 01:09:53 PM
Its going to be hard for the Nets to pass the Heat with one or two more Heat wins. They are on pace for 16 wins while Miami is on pace for 24. Yes they could get hot like Philly but remember these other teams will pick up wins as well over the course of the year. I think its fairly safe to say they will have a top 5 pick.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-33, #1 on 1/17)
Post by: Ed Hollison on January 19, 2017, 01:23:06 PM
IF Brooklyn finishes last:

We have a 25% chance of landing the 1st pick.

We have a 44.9% chance of landing a top 2 pick.

We have a 60.5% chance of landing a top 3 pick.

We are guaranteed to land a top 4 pick.

Let's keep this perspective, folks.  Maybe more on getting a top 3 or 4 pick, since the odds are still against us of landing a top 2 pick (which in likelihood will be Fultz and Ball).

Point taken, but I think your numbers are *slightly* off. I'm using this for reference:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NBA_draft_lottery

Getting the top pick means we have a 46.5% chance of landing in the top 2 and a 53.5% chance of landing 3 or 4. So roughly 50-50.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-33, #1 on 1/17)
Post by: Boris Badenov on January 19, 2017, 01:46:43 PM
IF Brooklyn finishes last:

We have a 25% chance of landing the 1st pick.

We have a 44.9% chance of landing a top 2 pick.

We have a 60.5% chance of landing a top 3 pick.

We are guaranteed to land a top 4 pick.

Let's keep this perspective, folks.  Maybe more on getting a top 3 or 4 pick, since the odds are still against us of landing a top 2 pick (which in likelihood will be Fultz and Ball).

Point taken, but I think your numbers are *slightly* off. I'm using this for reference:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NBA_draft_lottery

Getting the top pick means we have a 46.5% chance of landing in the top 2 and a 53.5% chance of landing 3 or 4. So roughly 50-50.

To correct the number above in case it's not clear from what you write, it's 64.3% in the top 3. 46.5% top 2, as you say.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-33, #1 on 1/17)
Post by: mef730 on January 19, 2017, 02:09:26 PM
Miami hosting Dallas tonight.

It just feels so wrong to be rooting for the Heat...

Mike
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-33, #1 on 1/17)
Post by: libermaniac on January 19, 2017, 02:24:21 PM
Does anyone else hate the way they do the draft lottery?  Announcing them in reverse order.  It's almost too hard to figure out what you are rooting for - e.g. if they announce the 8th pick and it's not the team in the 8th slot, then they've moved up, so when they pick the 7th slot, are we rooting for the 6th team, or the 7th, etc..

I propose they do it live ... choosing one ball at a time (I believe there are 4 balls in total to make each combination).

So, do it as follows:

1) Start with number one pick.  Choose first ball ... give a bit of time for the odds of each team getting that pick given the first ball's value to be updated.  Move on to the second ball, etc.. 

2) Move to second pick.  Same process

3) Third pick, Same process.

I just think this would be a) more straight forward and b ) more suspenseful. 

The way it might play out.  C's start with 25% chance at top pick.  First ball is number 7 ... that increases the C's to 33%.  2nd ball is a 4, that drops the C's down to 28%.  3rd ball is a 3, increasing C's back to 70%, etc..

Thoughts?
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-33, #1 on 1/17)
Post by: rondofan1255 on January 19, 2017, 02:31:08 PM
A guaranteed Top 4 or 5 pick in this draft would look good for the C's.

Still love to get a top 2. One of Fultz or Ball could offer more security and extend our title window beyond IT's prime. What's the feeling on Smart around here? I assume people on this thread are thinking 5 years down the road like me.

who wouldn't love top 2? With guaranteed top 4-5, either way you get a really nice prospect, no matter the result of the lottery. Unlike '07, we won't be discussing a Yi Jianlian type prospect if it's 4-5.

Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-33, #1 on 1/17)
Post by: Vermont Green on January 19, 2017, 05:23:02 PM
Miami hosting Dallas tonight.

It just feels so wrong to be rooting for the Heat...

Mike

Miami has had a tough schedule that gets much softer in the next 12-15 games.  This stretch includes 3 games against Brooklyn.  Miami could seal the deal in the next 12-15 games.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-33, #1 on 1/17)
Post by: footey on January 19, 2017, 05:51:47 PM
IF Brooklyn finishes last:

We have a 25% chance of landing the 1st pick.

We have a 44.9% chance of landing a top 2 pick.

We have a 60.5% chance of landing a top 3 pick.

We are guaranteed to land a top 4 pick.

Let's keep this perspective, folks.  Maybe more on getting a top 3 or 4 pick, since the odds are still against us of landing a top 2 pick (which in likelihood will be Fultz and Ball).

Point taken, but I think your numbers are *slightly* off. I'm using this for reference:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NBA_draft_lottery

Getting the top pick means we have a 46.5% chance of landing in the top 2 and a 53.5% chance of landing 3 or 4. So roughly 50-50.

Thanks for correcting, I misread it.  So we have a 64.3% chance of landing a top 3 pick. Which means more than a 1/3 chance that our pick is number 4. 

That's not cool!! I think they should change the lottery just for this year to give the last place finisher a 99.9999% chance of landing the number 1 pick.

Can someone send me Adam Silver's private number?
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-33, #1 on 1/17)
Post by: MattyIce on January 19, 2017, 09:34:17 PM
miami up 7 with 9 min to go :)
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-33, #1 on 1/17)
Post by: jpotter33 on January 19, 2017, 09:35:50 PM
miami up 7 with 9 min to go :)

If Miami can pull this off, they might legitimately be out of the range for Brooklyn to catch them.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-33, #1 on 1/17)
Post by: Phantom255x on January 19, 2017, 09:41:39 PM
miami up 7 with 9 min to go :)

Tied  :(
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-33, #1 on 1/17)
Post by: Ogaju on January 19, 2017, 09:47:44 PM
LOL at Celtics fans watching Miami vs Dallas with strong interest. **** !!!
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-33, #1 on 1/17)
Post by: hwangjini_1 on January 19, 2017, 09:49:20 PM
Miami now up by 5 with 2:40 left to go!  ;D
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-33, #1 on 1/17)
Post by: MattyIce on January 19, 2017, 09:49:54 PM
LOL at Celtics fans watching Miami vs Dallas with strong interest. **** !!!

strong!
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-33, #1 on 1/17)
Post by: hwangjini_1 on January 19, 2017, 09:50:35 PM
miami up 7 with 9 min to go :)

If Miami can pull this off, they might legitimately be out of the range for Brooklyn to catch them.
Miami and Dallas play each other two more times. I think. Must watch tv! ;D
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-33, #1 on 1/17)
Post by: Phantom255x on January 19, 2017, 09:53:23 PM
Heat up 6. 1 minute to go  ;D
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-33, #1 on 1/17)
Post by: jpotter33 on January 19, 2017, 09:54:30 PM
This is crazy. This pick has become soooo valuable, because the Nets have almost locked up the guaranteed worst record in the league only halfway through the season. They're FIVE WINS (or at least will be after this win against Dallas) behind their closest competitor, which is a gap that is nearly untouchable with how futile the Nets have been this season.

And they haven't even traded Lopez yet!!
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-33, #1 on 1/17)
Post by: hwangjini_1 on January 19, 2017, 09:55:36 PM
Miami now up by 7 with 29 seconds left. This will put Miami 5 wins ahead of the nets. Wonderful!  ;D
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-33, #1 on 1/17)
Post by: hwangjini_1 on January 19, 2017, 09:56:29 PM
Nm
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-33, #1 on 1/17)
Post by: MattyIce on January 19, 2017, 09:56:32 PM
what a big comeback win after the debacle last night!
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-33, #1 on 1/17)
Post by: Ogaju on January 19, 2017, 09:57:05 PM
How many affiliates do the Celtics have in the NBA this year? LOL
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-33, #1 on 1/17)
Post by: Phantom255x on January 19, 2017, 09:57:23 PM
All I have to say, with all the dedication we have shown in this thread and how bad the Nets are truly doing... this pick BETTER be a Top-2 pick.

I'll be outraged if a team like Miami or even the Lakers end up getting a Top-2 pick thanks to lottery luck  >:(
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-33, #1 on 1/17)
Post by: Ogaju on January 19, 2017, 09:58:05 PM
THAT was not a foul.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-33, #1 on 1/17)
Post by: hwangjini_1 on January 19, 2017, 09:59:28 PM
Cripes!!! What the hell is Miami doing? Missing ft! Fouling three point shooters!

Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-33, #1 on 1/17)
Post by: jpotter33 on January 19, 2017, 10:02:29 PM
Miami throwing away the game at the end with the stealth tank attempt!
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-33, #1 on 1/17)
Post by: hwangjini_1 on January 19, 2017, 10:05:44 PM
Up by five. That's a good little Miami team. good boys.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-33, #1 on 1/17)
Post by: Roy H. on January 19, 2017, 10:07:50 PM
I love watching Dirk, but that was too close for comfort.

Nice win, Heat.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-33, #1 on 1/17)
Post by: Ogaju on January 19, 2017, 10:08:12 PM
Game over in Miami, Celtics win.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-33, #1 on 1/17)
Post by: hwangjini_1 on January 19, 2017, 10:10:01 PM
Game over in Miami, Celtics win.
Very good. Tp for you and everyone else here.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-33, #1 on 1/17)
Post by: A Future of Stevens on January 19, 2017, 10:36:36 PM
Game over in Miami, Celtics win.

I cant wait to watch the Brooklyn Celtics
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-33, #1 on 1/17)
Post by: tankcity! on January 19, 2017, 10:43:12 PM
I'm not getting my hopes up. We could still get corked in the lottery. I don't get why we don't get lucky in it. I'm still stewing over Cleveland winning the #1 overall pick. It got them James and Love. Which then led to Durant joining the Warriors.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-33, #1 on 1/17)
Post by: Denis998 on January 19, 2017, 10:54:25 PM
I'm not getting my hopes up. We could still get corked in the lottery. I don't get why we don't get lucky in it. I'm still stewing over Cleveland winning the #1 overall pick. It got them James and Love. Which then led to Durant joining the Warriors.
its ironic that the lottery system ended up ruining the NBA. Who would have thought.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-33, #1 on 1/17)
Post by: Vox_Populi on January 19, 2017, 10:55:56 PM
We are getting Markelle this time. Mark my words.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-33, #1 on 1/17)
Post by: Boris Badenov on January 19, 2017, 11:46:04 PM
Serious question. If we didn't own these 3 picks in a row, would Brooklyn be considered Exhibit A of how "tanking" is ruining the league, and how we need lottery reform?



Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-33, #1 on 1/17)
Post by: Roy H. on January 19, 2017, 11:50:08 PM
Serious question. If we didn't own these 3 picks in a row, would Brooklyn be considered Exhibit A of how "tanking" is ruining the league, and how we need lottery reform?

I think fans would be pretty suspicious of the Thad Young trade. Other than that, though, it's hard to argue tanking. It's a lack of talent. They tried to improve in free agency but struck out.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-33, #1 on 1/17)
Post by: fairweatherfan on January 20, 2017, 12:11:23 AM
Serious question. If we didn't own these 3 picks in a row, would Brooklyn be considered Exhibit A of how "tanking" is ruining the league, and how we need lottery reform?

Definitely by some, but even worse we'd be seeing never-ending multi-thread arguments about whether Brooklyn or the Sixers were tanking it better.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-33, #1 on 1/17)
Post by: SCeltic34 on January 20, 2017, 12:14:57 AM
Serious question. If we didn't own these 3 picks in a row, would Brooklyn be considered Exhibit A of how "tanking" is ruining the league, and how we need lottery reform?

I think fans would be pretty suspicious of the Thad Young trade. Other than that, though, it's hard to argue tanking. It's a lack of talent. They tried to improve in free agency but struck out.

Pretty much.  They've just made a lot of bad moves and haven't been able to attract talent.  They did sign both Lin and Booker to reasonable contracts.  While both are decent vets, they're clearly not going to move the needle much without other established talent on the roster.

If they had traded Lopez for future picks before/during last season or before this season started, that would have certified them as a team dedicated to tanking.  The Process Lite.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-33, #1 on 1/17)
Post by: liam on January 20, 2017, 12:53:27 AM
Miami won again! Great for the pick...
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-33, #1 on 1/17)
Post by: fairweatherfan on January 20, 2017, 01:01:21 AM
Oops, wrong thread. Ignore me!
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-33, #1 on 1/17)
Post by: chambers on January 20, 2017, 03:44:15 AM
Wolves somehow win vs the Clippers, they actually came back from behind down 10 points and managed to claw back.

Kris Dunn and Town were very, very good.
Title: Halfway thru season: Nets have won 8 games and project to win 17 games & #1 pick
Post by: chambers on January 20, 2017, 04:01:09 AM
It just dawned on me that we are favorites to get the #1 NBA draft pick this year.
8 wins, 33 losses.
Looking at 16-18 wins and the worst record in the league.

'It's great but yeah there's still 43 games to go'.

Yeah there are but this week was
pretty significant moment for our top 3 chances because we are now 5 wins clear of the nearest two worst teams (the Heat and the Suns).

With half of the season done, we have a 5 game buffer on securing the best lottery odds.

To see this unfolding as a Celtics fan is pretty special.
To think we'd be seeing this day when Danny made the Pierce/KG trades is just so satisfying and rewarding for being patient with the rebuilding process.

It makes me appreciate what a basketball Genius Danny Ainge is too.
Title: Re: Halfway thru season: Nets have won 8 games and project to win 17 games & #1 pick
Post by: jpotter33 on January 20, 2017, 04:15:38 AM
TP. I don't think any of us really expected this much separation from the pack at this point, but it certainly is great.

The trade value of this pick is certainly as high as can be at this point, too, and combined with the Rudy Gay injury, I seriously wonder if Sacramento might actually consider trading Cousins at this point, especially due to the fact that Philly is playing better and can swap picks with them if they land lower than Philly in the lottery.
Title: Re: Halfway thru season: Nets have won 8 games and project to win 17 games & #1 pick
Post by: BE-Celtic on January 20, 2017, 04:20:30 AM
Having a good team, fun to watch, competing for a top seed in the east while looking at a lottery pick with the best odds for #1 is something all NBA fans can't do. Definitely exciting ! And just for that Danny deserves recognition.

But don't rely on #1 pick too much, or you could be disapointed in the end...
Title: Re: Halfway thru season: Nets have won 8 games and project to win 17 games & #1 pick
Post by: greece66 on January 20, 2017, 06:48:36 AM
this is so amazing... they have10 losses in a row. I never thought the Nets picks would end being so insanely good when the deal was made.

As a side note, the bottom team has only 25% of winning the 1st pick- whereas the % of being 4th are 35.7. The good news tho is that you are guaranteed to be in the top 4.
Title: Re: Halfway thru season: Nets have won 8 games and project to win 17 games & #1 pick
Post by: SHAQATTACK on January 20, 2017, 07:00:05 AM
Sure wish the d trade or sell off Lopez,  that would seal,the deal for next year too.   It's like they have imprisioned him in Siberia , you ARE going to play for use by god one way or the other we are getting our money's worth out of you .   Working him to death ,  going no where .   Without Lopez they are lucky to put up 75 points as a team. 
Title: Re: Halfway thru season: Nets have won 8 games and project to win 17 games & #1 pick
Post by: Bobshot on January 20, 2017, 10:36:41 AM
A reminder that the Nets finishing as the worst team does not guarantee the no.1 pick. In fact, it doesn't occur that often.
Title: Re: Halfway thru season: Nets have won 8 games and project to win 17 games & #1 pick
Post by: chambers on January 20, 2017, 11:32:56 AM
this is so amazing... they have10 losses in a row. I never thought the Nets picks would end being so insanely good when the deal was made.

As a side note, the bottom team has only 25% of winning the 1st pick- whereas the % of being 4th are 35.7. The good news tho is that you are guaranteed to be in the top 4.

TP, great point that I never actually wrote in the OP. It's so significant for our pick because we are guaranteed a top 4 pick.

Thankyou Billy King!
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-33, #1 on 1/17)
Post by: mef730 on January 20, 2017, 11:36:20 AM
Up by five. That's a good little Miami team. good boys.

I picture you talking to a dog. :D

Hey, it seemed to work. Next time Brooklyn is on, you should try, "Roll over. Play dead. Goooodddd doggie..."

Mike
Title: Re: Halfway thru season: Nets have won 8 games and project to win 17 games & #1 pick
Post by: slamtheking on January 20, 2017, 11:44:06 AM
this is so amazing... they have10 losses in a row. I never thought the Nets picks would end being so insanely good when the deal was made.

As a side note, the bottom team has only 25% of winning the 1st pick- whereas the % of being 4th are 35.7. The good news tho is that you are guaranteed to be in the top 4.

TP, great point that I never actually wrote in the OP. It's so significant for our pick because we are guaranteed a top 4 pick.

Thankyou Billy King!
yup, top 4 in this draft is looking really good as opposed to other years when it's been a top 1 or top 2 and we've been just outside that range.
Title: Re: Halfway thru season: Nets have won 8 games and project to win 17 games & #1 pick
Post by: clevelandceltic on January 20, 2017, 11:49:27 AM
I really hope this turns out like the 2015 draft where there were a number of good players at the top. How good could this team be if this pick was in the 14 or 15 draft and they got Towns or Embiid. Wow.

Ok Im back from fantasy land. Im fine with a top 4 pick. Im not going to stress about it. As the OP stated, this lead is becoming so large that I dont see how they dont finish with the worst record in the league. 5 wins is a very large gap to overcome when you consider they have only won 8 so far.
Title: Re: Halfway thru season: Nets have won 8 games and project to win 17 games & #1 pick
Post by: mef730 on January 20, 2017, 11:55:35 AM
Brings me back to November 12, when the Nets were 4-5 and many people were panicking (yes, myself included). In fact, somebody questioned if we would even be needing the swap with BKN (I think it was a joke.).

Since that time, they have gone 4-28. Can you imagine it? What would this board have done if we could somehow have gone into the future and seen where they would be at this point? That we'd be at the halfway point and their closest "competitor" would be four games "behind" them. Unbelievable.

The only thing that the Nets have going for them is that Jeremy Lin will soon return. No, he is not the world's greatest point guard, but their offense clearly plays much better with him on the court.

Mike
Title: Re: Halfway thru season: Nets have won 8 games and project to win 17 games & #1 pick
Post by: Big333223 on January 20, 2017, 11:59:09 AM
I'm too nervous to ever let myself be happy about anything. I won't really be happy until I see the player wearing the Celtics hat next to Adam Silver. But [dang], this is good.
Title: Re: Halfway thru season: Nets have won 8 games and project to win 17 games & #1 pick
Post by: hpantazo on January 20, 2017, 12:07:45 PM
With the trade deadline a few weeks away, the value of this pick has never been higher. Ainge has all the ammo and leverage to make a huge trade if he wants to.
Title: Re: Halfway thru season: Nets have won 8 games and project to win 17 games & #1 pick
Post by: Granath on January 20, 2017, 01:15:08 PM
Brings me back to November 12, when the Nets were 4-5 and many people were panicking (yes, myself included). In fact, somebody questioned if we would even be needing the swap with BKN (I think it was a joke.).

Since that time, they have gone 4-28. Can you imagine it? What would this board have done if we could somehow have gone into the future and seen where they would be at this point? That we'd be at the halfway point and their closest "competitor" would be four games "behind" them. Unbelievable.

The only thing that the Nets have going for them is that Jeremy Lin will soon return. No, he is not the world's greatest point guard, but their offense clearly plays much better with him on the court.

Mike

Yes, actually we can imagine it. Some of us said it was a small sample size against mediocre competition fueled by unsustainable 3 point shooting percentages. The law of averages evened things out.

I still expect that Brooklyn will go on a run towards the end of the season. Their schedule is too favorable, too many home games, too few back-to-backs that they'll get some encouragement at seasons' end. I'm still expecting that they'll win somewhere about 22-23 games.

I said many years ago (when the trade went down) that the 2016-2018 picks may very well end up in the lottery. I said a couple of years ago that the picks may very well end up in the top 5.  I've been steadfastly bullish about these picks because:

(1) Originally you could see that the Nets roster was going to get old FAST. Deron Williams was about to turn 30, KG and Pierce were too old already and thus the only real younger asset the Nets had was Lopez. That was it. That was a team with a very limited window. Also, all the advanced metrics showed that their W-L record was abnormally good for a team with such a poor point differential. In other words, they were overachieving and the team was already getting past their prime.

(2) Without some great trades - and their ownership was a mess which isn't conducive to making great trades - the Nets were going to have to try to restock their roster on one pick in 2015 and a bunch of 2nd rounders. Hitting it out of the park in the lottery is hard enough. Hitting it out of the park with a mid-1st on one try is almost impossible. They were going to have a really hard time back filling the aging talent.

(3) Figuring that the team would be in decline at precisely the same time the cap exploded, I knew that the Nets were not going to be able to overspend to get FAs. When 15-20 teams have max space and the money is the same, the Nets really had very little to offer prospective FAs. So while some people were posting how the Nets were a player for KD this past offseason, I said they would have a hard time getting even 2nd tier FAs. And that's what happened.

That's why I posted years ago that the Nets situation was the worst in the league. No young talent. No picks. No ability to attract FAs. And here it is. Of course, I'm not always right. I said that Trump would never voted into the Oval Office...   ;D
Title: Re: Halfway thru season: Nets have won 8 games and project to win 17 games & #1 pick
Post by: Chris22 on January 20, 2017, 01:23:10 PM
When we made the trade, I thought, "Our future is secure."
We have a great GM, a great coach, and Brooklyn's pick for this year and next year.
The IT trade was also great, as was the Rondo trade.
Title: Re: Halfway thru season: Nets have won 8 games and project to win 17 games & #1 pick
Post by: mef730 on January 20, 2017, 02:18:32 PM

That's why I posted years ago that the Nets situation was the worst in the league. No young talent. No picks. No ability to attract FAs. And here it is. Of course, I'm not always right. I said that Trump would never voted into the Oval Office...   ;D

Look on the bright side. You got the important one right.

Mike
Title: Re: Halfway thru season: Nets have won 8 games and project to win 17 games & #1 pick
Post by: Vino on January 20, 2017, 02:21:36 PM
Can't help but think back a few decades (1986) when I was checking box scores daily to see how Seattle did. For you yungins, we had their pick when we traded Gerald Henderson and ended up with the #2 pick. Red talked up Brad Daugherty who was taken 1st by the Cavs. We got our man, Len Bias at #2. He was thought to be the guy to continue the Celtic dominance of the 80's. As many of us know he died tragically 2 days later of a cocaine overdose. 
Title: Re: Halfway thru season: Nets have won 8 games and project to win 17 games & #1 pick
Post by: rochrist on January 20, 2017, 04:05:34 PM
The best part is that NEXT year they're likely to be just as bad.
Title: Re: Halfway thru season: Nets have won 8 games and project to win 17 games & #1 pick
Post by: CelticGuardian on January 20, 2017, 04:10:36 PM
Can't help but think back a few decades (1986) when I was checking box scores daily to see how Seattle did. For you yungins, we had their pick when we traded Gerald Henderson and ended up with the #2 pick. Red talked up Brad Daugherty who was taken 1st by the Cavs. We got our man, Len Bias at #2. He was thought to be the guy to continue the Celtic dominance of the 80's. As many of us know he died tragically 2 days later of a cocaine overdose.

Maybe this is the basketball gods making it up to us, brother. TP, and faith we will dominate the league yet again.
Title: Re: Halfway thru season: Nets have won 8 games and project to win 17 games & #1 pick
Post by: mahcus smaht on January 20, 2017, 04:10:41 PM
The best part is that NEXT year they're likely to be just as bad.
I think they will be marginally better next year, but what do I know? theyve been worse than Ive expected each of the last two years.
Title: Re: Halfway thru season: Nets have won 8 games and project to win 17 games & #1 pick
Post by: GratefulCs on January 20, 2017, 04:15:26 PM
Having a good team, fun to watch, competing for a top seed in the east while looking at a lottery pick with the best odds for #1 is something all NBA fans can't do. Definitely exciting ! And just for that Danny deserves recognition.

But don't rely on #1 pick too much, or you could be disapointed in the end...
yup

But it'd be nice to have top odds. And then the worst we could do is the 4th pick

A guaranteed top 4 pick would be great
Title: Re: Halfway thru season: Nets have won 8 games and project to win 17 games & #1 pick
Post by: rochrist on January 20, 2017, 06:01:25 PM
The best part is that NEXT year they're likely to be just as bad.
I think they will be marginally better next year, but what do I know? theyve been worse than Ive expected each of the last two years.

Curious why you think they'll be better. They'll probably lose Lopez. No draft picks coming in. A FA would have to be a real masochist to sign there.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-33, #1 on 1/17)
Post by: Vox_Populi on January 20, 2017, 06:54:22 PM
I think Bojan is also gone in FA.
Title: Re: Halfway thru season: Nets have won 8 games and project to win 17 games & #1 pick
Post by: mef730 on January 20, 2017, 09:08:00 PM
Im not going to stress about it. As the OP stated, this lead is becoming so large that I dont see how they dont finish with the worst record in the league. 5 wins is a very large gap to overcome when you consider they have only won 8 so far.

I'm going to say that I'm not gonna stress about it, but I'm sure I will. Ya know, because real life just isn't stressful enough.

Mike
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-33, #1 on 1/17)
Post by: mef730 on January 20, 2017, 09:10:22 PM
Looks like Nets by 12 at the half and Anthony Davis may be injured.

Can't lose 'em all, I guess.

Mike
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-33, #1 on 1/17)
Post by: jpotter33 on January 20, 2017, 09:14:43 PM
Looks like Nets by 12 at the half and Anthony Davis may be injured.

Can't lose 'em all, I guess.

Mike

Eh, this Pelicans team sans Davis came back against the Nets barely a week ago to take the game in Brooklyn, so it's far from over.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-33, #1 on 1/17)
Post by: letsgoblue86 on January 20, 2017, 09:16:03 PM
Looks like Nets by 12 at the half and Anthony Davis may be injured.

Can't lose 'em all, I guess.

Mike
Dude gets hurt a lot...
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-33, #1 on 1/17)
Post by: jambr380 on January 20, 2017, 09:44:57 PM
Looks like Nets by 12 at the half and Anthony Davis may be injured.

Can't lose 'em all, I guess.

Mike

24 pt lead now. I guess we got the wrong end of the 12 pt swing coming out of the half.

I second your latter point...still a bummer, though.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-33, #1 on 1/17)
Post by: chambers on January 20, 2017, 09:52:59 PM
Looks like a Nets win tonight.

Good news is that Robert Covington hit two HUUUUGGGEEE threes and won the game for the 76ers vs the Blazers.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-33, #1 on 1/17)
Post by: liam on January 20, 2017, 09:57:58 PM
Ouch! Brooklyn looks like a win....
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-33, #1 on 1/17)
Post by: hpantazo on January 20, 2017, 09:59:13 PM
Ouch! Brooklyn looks like a win....

[dang]! How bad is NO to get blown out so badly by the Nets! Anthony Davis should demand a trade.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-33, #1 on 1/17)
Post by: LarBrd33 on January 20, 2017, 10:26:11 PM
What the hell happened tonight ?
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-33, #1 on 1/17)
Post by: Vox_Populi on January 20, 2017, 10:32:02 PM
What the hell happened tonight ?
Nets were just hot. One of those games. They went 15-30 on threes, despite being the third worst team by percentage, and an insane 32-35 from the free throw line. Even a broken clock and all that.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-33, #1 on 1/17)
Post by: hwangjini_1 on January 20, 2017, 10:32:32 PM
Trump becomes president. The nets win a game.

Coincidence?
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-33, #1 on 1/17)
Post by: tazzmaniac on January 20, 2017, 10:49:30 PM
143 points.  Yikes!!!  I was just starting to feel really comfortable that they'd end up with the worst record.   Anyone know why Booker and Kilpatrick didn't play and when Lin is expected back? 
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-33, #1 on 1/20)
Post by: TheSundanceKid on January 21, 2017, 01:36:55 AM
NO have got to be close to shipping off Davis now right? He can't even beat Brooklyn ;)
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-33, #1 on 1/20)
Post by: KG Living Legend on January 21, 2017, 02:21:45 AM

 Oh No! Lavert played very well again. 17,6,5 he could be the steal of the draft if healthy.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (8-33, #1 on 1/17)
Post by: Monkhouse on January 21, 2017, 02:58:11 AM
143 points.  Yikes!!!  I was just starting to feel really comfortable that they'd end up with the worst record.   Anyone know why Booker and Kilpatrick didn't play and when Lin is expected back?

Booker I think had some flu or infection problem.

And as for Jeremy Lin, apparently he's on a day to day basis. He could've played tonight, but they DNP-CD'ed just incase.
Quote
Lin remains out with no return date in sight. Isaiah Whitehead and Spencer Dinwiddie haven't really done enough to warrant fantasy consideration in Lin's absence.

Lin is averaging 13.9 points, 5.8 assists, 3.3 rebounds, 1.3 steals and 1.3 3-pointers on a career-high 46.9 shooting percentage from the field this season, but in only 12 games.

Source: Rotoworld.com

Most likely playing it safe, and considering they have literally nothing to lose, except healthy players at this point lol.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-33, #1 on 1/20)
Post by: Rondo9 on January 21, 2017, 03:02:09 AM
Nets had to win sometime
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-33, #1 on 1/20)
Post by: Somebody on January 21, 2017, 05:51:47 AM

 Oh No! Lavert played very well again. 17,6,5 he could be the steal of the draft if healthy.
He'll most likely not be healthy, and he's just having a streak of good games (he wouldn't be anything close to a star I guess, maybe Bradley tier but who knows)
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-33, #1 on 1/20)
Post by: clevelandceltic on January 21, 2017, 10:14:06 AM
The Nets had lost like 10 or 11 in a row. This was a perfect storm. They are still 4 games back in the win column from the Suns and Heat.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-33, #1 on 1/20)
Post by: Phantom255x on January 21, 2017, 10:30:27 AM
Next four against Charlotte, San Antonio, Miami and Cleveland.

Hopefully they get "back on track" and go 0-4 next four games lol.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-33, #1 on 1/20)
Post by: Ogaju on January 21, 2017, 10:38:53 AM
Nets had to win sometime

No they didn't...they need to lose every game.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-33, #1 on 1/20)
Post by: slamtheking on January 21, 2017, 10:47:09 AM
Next four against Charlotte, San Antonio, Miami and Cleveland.

Hopefully they get "back on track" and go 0-4 next four games lol.
hopefully they do but I really think they could pull off wins against charlotte and Miami
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-33, #1 on 1/20)
Post by: mef730 on January 21, 2017, 02:19:50 PM
No Lin tonight. I'd feel that much more comfortable if he missed at least one of the Miami games, preferably both.

Mike
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-33, #1 on 1/20)
Post by: SHAQATTACK on January 21, 2017, 02:37:29 PM
Lakers looked pretty good and hammered Pacers last night .   Their forum seemed not so happy over the nice win and came without Russel too.   LOL....supposedly their future .....or is he really?   I got the feeling , more than half on the Lakers bloggers would have soon they lost .  I don't believe Walton has the green light to tank nor do I think he is a tanking coach .  Who ever heard of Bill Walton giving up and losing on purpose .....I doubt his son will either.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-33, #1 on 1/20)
Post by: hwangjini_1 on January 21, 2017, 09:25:01 PM
And the nets lose again tonight.  This time to the hornets.

Other potentially good news is the heat are leading the bucks by 11 after three quarters. Cross those fingers!  ;D
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-33, #1 on 1/20)
Post by: Adelaide Celt on January 21, 2017, 09:31:22 PM
Phoenix also in a close game with New York.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-34, #1 on 1/21)
Post by: jpotter33 on January 21, 2017, 09:50:49 PM
Wow, so the Nets lost and Miami just won! AND Phoenix is about to win in New York!
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-34, #1 on 1/21)
Post by: MattyIce on January 21, 2017, 09:53:23 PM
WOW!
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-34, #1 on 1/21)
Post by: hwangjini_1 on January 21, 2017, 09:57:24 PM
Wow, wow, wow! BOTH the heat and the suns won tonight. Some good news after all.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-34, #1 on 1/21)
Post by: A Future of Stevens on January 21, 2017, 10:05:11 PM
No whammy no whammy, fultz! Lets keep it going luck.

Well luck and 95% Brooklyn management ineptitude.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-34, #1 on 1/21)
Post by: Vox_Populi on January 21, 2017, 10:23:34 PM
What happens with the Nets is arguably more important than whatever the Celtics do this season, so I'm glad to see Miami make up for the Pelicans game.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-34, #1 on 1/21)
Post by: Adelaide Celt on January 22, 2017, 08:30:20 PM
Suns on 2nd night of a back to back about to beat the Raptors in Toronto.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-34, #1 on 1/21)
Post by: MJohnnyboy on January 22, 2017, 08:36:30 PM
Suns on 2nd night of a back to back about to beat the Raptors in Toronto.

Celtics might not be the only team in a little trouble...
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-34, #1 on 1/21)
Post by: mef730 on January 22, 2017, 09:12:00 PM
Suns on 2nd night of a back to back about to beat the Raptors in Toronto.

That's just awful. I almost feel bad for them. Almost.

Can you admit having to go home and admit to your spouse/girlfriend/whomever that you lost to the Suns? The utter humiliation. As bad as having your buns taped together in high school wrestling.

Mike
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-34, #1 on 1/21)
Post by: hwangjini_1 on January 22, 2017, 09:31:17 PM
Minnesota won.

Phoenix won.

Dallas won.

Over all a good night for the Celtics. ;D
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-34, #1 on 1/21)
Post by: libermaniac on January 22, 2017, 09:32:08 PM
T-wolves won too. Hwangjini beat me to it.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-34, #1 on 1/21)
Post by: Ilikesports17 on January 22, 2017, 09:32:14 PM
Suns on 2nd night of a back to back about to beat the Raptors in Toronto.

That's just awful. I almost feel bad for them. Almost.

Can you admit having to go home and admit to your spouse/girlfriend/whomever that you lost to the Suns? The utter humiliation. As bad as having your buns taped together in high school wrestling.

Mike
Toronto is vulnerable! lets attack the two seed and  berth in the conference finals!
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-34, #1 on 1/21)
Post by: mef730 on January 22, 2017, 09:34:38 PM
Minnesota won.

Phoenix won.

Dallas won.

Over all a good night for the Celtics. ;D

I was actually rooting for Dallas to lose, since I think they are a better team than the Lakers and will make up the wins.

But any 49-point loss by the Lakers is a great consolation prize!

Mike
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-34, #1 on 1/21)
Post by: hwangjini_1 on January 22, 2017, 09:43:52 PM
Minnesota won.

Phoenix won.

Dallas won.

Over all a good night for the Celtics. ;D

I was actually rooting for Dallas to lose, since I think they are a better team than the Lakers and will make up the wins.

But any 49-point loss by the Lakers is a great consolation prize!

Mike
Oh yes yes yes! 49 point humiliating loss for the despicable laker slugs.  Hee, hee that is worth it. Overall, a good evening indeed.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-34, #1 on 1/21)
Post by: Ogaju on January 22, 2017, 09:47:29 PM
nice night for Celtics and Pats.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-34, #1 on 1/21)
Post by: trickybilly on January 22, 2017, 10:16:27 PM
Man, this pick. Holy moly. I know we talk endlessly about it, in terms of trade, Fultz, etc. but it's justified. The possibilities are almost endless, and frankly, I trust Danny not to do something stupid with it. He might not hit a home run, but he won't mess it up..
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-34, #1 on 1/21)
Post by: chambers on January 22, 2017, 11:22:18 PM
Minnesota won.

Phoenix won.

Dallas won.

Over all a good night for the Celtics. ;D

TP's for everyone! It's a celebration b!tches!
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-34, #1 on 1/21)
Post by: LarBrd33 on January 22, 2017, 11:24:45 PM
Obligatory "they are only 25 games under .500.  Let's not get too excited just yet."
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-34, #1 on 1/21)
Post by: TrueFan on January 22, 2017, 11:26:16 PM
The Lakers are starting to look like the second worst team. Hopefully there's too much distance between them and the Nets.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-34, #1 on 1/21)
Post by: LarBrd33 on January 22, 2017, 11:28:33 PM
The Lakers are starting to look like the second worst team. Hopefully there's too much distance between them and the Nets.
and down the stretch the shameful Lakers will be intentionally trying to lose games while Brooklyn will be trying to win.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-34, #1 on 1/21)
Post by: TrueFan on January 22, 2017, 11:36:34 PM
The Lakers are starting to look like the second worst team. Hopefully there's too much distance between them and the Nets.
and down the stretch the shameful Lakers will be intentionally trying to lose games while Brooklyn will be trying to win.
Is their pick this year top 3 protected?
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-34, #1 on 1/21)
Post by: LarBrd33 on January 23, 2017, 12:03:26 AM
The Lakers are starting to look like the second worst team. Hopefully there's too much distance between them and the Nets.
and down the stretch the shameful Lakers will be intentionally trying to lose games while Brooklyn will be trying to win.
Is their pick this year top 3 protected?
yes.  Hence why they are in the bottom 3.   I suspect they will do everything they can to stay there.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-34, #1 on 1/21)
Post by: mef730 on January 23, 2017, 10:40:08 AM
Jeremy Lin reinjured, will be out 3-5 weeks. I'll look for the link.

Mike

ETA: http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/4299/jeremy-lin
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-34, #1 on 1/21)
Post by: hpantazo on January 23, 2017, 10:48:12 AM
The Lakers are starting to look like the second worst team. Hopefully there's too much distance between them and the Nets.
and down the stretch the shameful Lakers will be intentionally trying to lose games while Brooklyn will be trying to win.
Is their pick this year top 3 protected?
yes.  Hence why they are in the bottom 3.   I suspect they will do everything they can to stay there.

They would be in more of a bind than us if they get Fultz or Ball, as they already have Dangelo Russell who is still cheap and young. They will be in Sixers Okafor/Noel territory.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-34, #1 on 1/21)
Post by: The One on January 23, 2017, 11:22:09 AM
I am more worried about the ping pong balls than I am about the Nets.

Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-34, #1 on 1/21)
Post by: mef730 on January 23, 2017, 11:27:54 AM
I am more worried about the ping pong balls than I am about the Nets.

True, but we can't control the ping pong balls whereas, by posting here multiple times per day, we are helping to defeat the Nets.

Mike
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-34, #1 on 1/21)
Post by: nickagneta on January 23, 2017, 11:29:29 AM
I am more worried about the ping pong balls than I am about the Nets.
Me too. I am convinced the Nets are the league's worst team and have 100% confidence they will have the worse record. But I have no faith in lottery balls to give us a top 3 pick, nevermind the first pick
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-34, #1 on 1/21)
Post by: clevelandceltic on January 23, 2017, 11:40:30 AM
This race is just about over. They have 38 games left and need at least 5 wins to tie the Heat. Lets say the Heat play at a 200% clip. That means they will likely win between 6 - 8 more games. Does anyone see the Nets winning 11 -13 out of the next 38?
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-34, #1 on 1/21)
Post by: The One on January 23, 2017, 11:42:18 AM
I am more worried about the ping pong balls than I am about the Nets.

True, but we can't control the ping pong balls whereas, by posting here multiple times per day, we are helping to defeat the Nets.

Mike

LOL...that's awesome!
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-34, #1 on 1/21)
Post by: The One on January 23, 2017, 11:43:55 AM
I am more worried about the ping pong balls than I am about the Nets.
Me too. I am convinced the Nets are the league's worst team and have 100% confidence they will have the worse record. But I have no faith in lottery balls to give us a top 3 pick, nevermind the first pick

I simulated the lottery...I got fourth... >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-34, #1 on 1/21)
Post by: Boris Badenov on January 23, 2017, 11:44:51 AM
I am more worried about the ping pong balls than I am about the Nets.

True, but we can't control the ping pong balls whereas, by posting here multiple times per day, we are helping to defeat the Nets.

Mike

Playing the simulated lottery on "Tankathon" several times a day helps with the ping pong balls. I'm convinced of it.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-34, #1 on 1/21)
Post by: bdm860 on January 23, 2017, 11:52:10 AM
I am more worried about the ping pong balls than I am about the Nets.

True, but we can't control the ping pong balls whereas, by posting here multiple times per day, we are helping to defeat the Nets.

Mike

Playing the simulated lottery on "Tankathon" several times a day helps with the ping pong balls. I'm convinced of it.

I don't know man, all that work we all did last year, and then on lottery night the NBA forgot to hit the "sim lottery" button and so we got stuck with the pre-lottery standings.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-34, #1 on 1/21)
Post by: Emmette Bryant on January 23, 2017, 11:57:20 AM
I am more worried about the ping pong balls than I am about the Nets.

True, but we can't control the ping pong balls whereas, by posting here multiple times per day, we are helping to defeat the Nets.

Mike

 :)
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-34, #1 on 1/21)
Post by: mef730 on January 23, 2017, 12:39:51 PM
I am more worried about the ping pong balls than I am about the Nets.
Me too. I am convinced the Nets are the league's worst team and have 100% confidence they will have the worse record. But I have no faith in lottery balls to give us a top 3 pick, nevermind the first pick

I simulated the lottery...I got fourth... >:( >:( >:(

I did even worse. We finished second, but the Lakers were first.

Out of eight sims, I got the first pick for us only twice, which kind of ticked me off until I remembered, oh, yeah, that whole "math" thing...

Mike
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-34, #1 on 1/21)
Post by: saltlover on January 23, 2017, 12:44:42 PM
I am more worried about the ping pong balls than I am about the Nets.
Me too. I am convinced the Nets are the league's worst team and have 100% confidence they will have the worse record. But I have no faith in lottery balls to give us a top 3 pick, nevermind the first pick

I simulated the lottery...I got fourth... >:( >:( >:(

I did even worse. We finished second, but the Lakers were first.

Out of eight sims, I got the first pick for us only twice, which kind of ticked me off until I remembered, oh, yeah, that whole "math" thing...

Mike

Last time I tried it, we got the fourth pick in 5 of 6 spins, and pick 3 the other time.  I'm staying away.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-34, #1 on 1/21)
Post by: mef730 on January 23, 2017, 07:16:01 PM
Is there anybody playing for the Spurs tonight? Parker, Manu, Gasol, Leonard all sitting.

Mike
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-34, #1 on 1/21)
Post by: Phantom255x on January 23, 2017, 07:23:38 PM
Is there anybody playing for the Spurs tonight? Parker, Manu, Gasol, Leonard all sitting.

Mike

It's okay. David Lee to the rescue  :laugh:
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-34, #1 on 1/21)
Post by: A Future of Stevens on January 23, 2017, 07:26:03 PM
Is there anybody playing for the Spurs tonight? Parker, Manu, Gasol, Leonard all sitting.

Mike

It's okay. David Lee to the rescue  :laugh:
All kidding aside, lee is probably better than anyone on that team other than lopez, kilpatrick, or uninjured lin. Lavert has a good game here and there but I feel is inconsistent.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-34, #1 on 1/21)
Post by: celticsclay on January 23, 2017, 07:26:46 PM
Is there anybody playing for the Spurs tonight? Parker, Manu, Gasol, Leonard all sitting.

Mike

It's okay. David Lee to the rescue  :laugh:

Lavert is out...
All kidding aside, lee is probably better than anyone on that team other than lopez, kilpatrick, or uninjured lin. Lavert has a good game here and there but I feel is inconsistent.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-34, #1 on 1/21)
Post by: Phantom255x on January 23, 2017, 07:27:29 PM
Is there anybody playing for the Spurs tonight? Parker, Manu, Gasol, Leonard all sitting.

Mike

It's okay. David Lee to the rescue  :laugh:
All kidding aside, lee is probably better than anyone on that team other than lopez, kilpatrick, or uninjured lin. Lavert has a good game here and there but I feel is inconsistent.

You take Lopez out of the Nets and man.. what a horrible team (and yes, they are already horrible with him lol). Lin injured as well so...  ;D
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-34, #1 on 1/21)
Post by: ImShakHeIsShaq on January 23, 2017, 07:54:12 PM
Is there anybody playing for the Spurs tonight? Parker, Manu, Gasol, Leonard all sitting.

Mike


LMA is playing.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-34, #1 on 1/21)
Post by: Denis998 on January 23, 2017, 08:30:09 PM
I've watched a ton of Nets games this season, and I gotta say, their commentators might be the most impartial in the NBA.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-34, #1 on 1/21)
Post by: hpantazo on January 23, 2017, 08:31:19 PM
I've watched a ton of Nets games this season, and I gotta say, their commentators might be the most impartial in the NBA.

Well it's easy to be impartial when you don't have anything to hope for.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-34, #1 on 1/21)
Post by: Denis998 on January 23, 2017, 08:40:56 PM
I've watched a ton of Nets games this season, and I gotta say, their commentators might be the most impartial in the NBA.

Well it's easy to be impartial when you don't have anything to hope for.
Would be cool if they get Celtics commentators calling the Nets games.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-34, #1 on 1/21)
Post by: SCeltic34 on January 23, 2017, 08:55:58 PM
I've watched a ton of Nets games this season, and I gotta say, their commentators might be the most impartial in the NBA.

Agreed.  Ian Eagle is a great play by play announcer.  Jim Spanarkel is pretty good too.  Their crew is among the best in pro basketball in my opinion.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-34, #1 on 1/21)
Post by: jpotter33 on January 23, 2017, 09:30:35 PM
I've watched a ton of Nets games this season, and I gotta say, their commentators might be the most impartial in the NBA.

New Orleans has some pretty objective and entertaining commentators, too. They're very knowledgeable about other teams, as well.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-34, #1 on 1/21)
Post by: jpotter33 on January 23, 2017, 09:33:53 PM
Not to jinx anything, but Miami is up 5 on Golden State midway through the 4th.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-34, #1 on 1/21)
Post by: MattyIce on January 23, 2017, 09:43:23 PM
Not to jinx anything, but Miami is up 5 on Golden State midway through the 4th.

would be huge, not as big as a win wednesday night but still big just cause we expected a loss...watching
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-34, #1 on 1/21)
Post by: jpotter33 on January 23, 2017, 10:09:33 PM
Oh wow, Waiters hits a three with .6 to go to put the Heat up 3!!
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-34, #1 on 1/21)
Post by: positivitize on January 23, 2017, 10:09:55 PM
EVERYONE BACK ONTO WAITERS ISLAND!!!
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-34, #1 on 1/21)
Post by: MattyIce on January 23, 2017, 10:10:46 PM
EVERYONE BACK ONTO WAITERS ISLAND!!!

he should have waited .6 seconds lol
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-34, #1 on 1/21)
Post by: jpotter33 on January 23, 2017, 10:11:18 PM
Heat beat the Warriors! Now SIX wins up on the Nets!
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-34, #1 on 1/21)
Post by: positivitize on January 23, 2017, 10:12:52 PM
Heat beat the Warriors! Now SIX wins up on the Nets!

Does that make the Lakers the largest threat to our NETANK?
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-34, #1 on 1/21)
Post by: saltlover on January 23, 2017, 10:16:32 PM
I don't think there's any way a team can finish below the Nets at this point.  And it's really difficult to see much of a change next season, either, unless they're able to steal a couple restricted free agents that pan out.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-34, #1 on 1/21)
Post by: saltlover on January 23, 2017, 10:17:57 PM
Heat beat the Warriors! Now SIX wins up on the Nets!

Does that make the Lakers the largest threat to our NETANK?

Still Miami for now.  They've got three games coming up with Brooklyn to get back in it, although I don't think it matters.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-34, #1 on 1/21)
Post by: hpantazo on January 23, 2017, 10:17:58 PM
Wow! Heat beat GSW and now the Pelicans without AD are about to beat the Cavs. Great night for our pick!
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-34, #1 on 1/21)
Post by: jpotter33 on January 23, 2017, 10:18:44 PM
I don't think there's any way a team can finish below the Nets at this point.  And it's really difficult to see much of a change next season, either, unless they're able to steal a couple restricted free agents that pan out.

That's the crazy thing about it, too. I just don't see how they get better for next year. In fact, once they trade Lopez, which seems inevitable at this point, they'll get even worse in the short-term.

And this year the closest competition for the rest of the year is probably the Lakers, who are clearly in tank mode now that their early season success is done and over with, yet they're still seven wins over the Nets. I'm still not convinced that the Nets win seven more games this season.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-34, #1 on 1/21)
Post by: hpantazo on January 23, 2017, 10:19:06 PM
Heat beat the Warriors! Now SIX wins up on the Nets!

Does that make the Lakers the largest threat to our NETANK?

Still Miami for now.  They've got three games coming up with Brooklyn to get back in it, although I don't think it matters.




At this point I wouldn't be surprised if the Heat steamroll Brooklyn in at least 2 out of those 3 games.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-34, #1 on 1/21)
Post by: max215 on January 23, 2017, 10:23:22 PM
We're approaching an insurmountable gap. Guys, we're looking at #1 odds in a transcendent draft. Oh yeah, and we have the league's second leading scorer and the 3 seed.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-34, #1 on 1/21)
Post by: Vox_Populi on January 23, 2017, 10:24:26 PM
Miami have won four straight.

Face it everyone, the C's are getting that no. 1 pick.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-34, #1 on 1/21)
Post by: hpantazo on January 23, 2017, 10:28:12 PM
Miami have won four straight.

Face it everyone, the C's are getting that no. 1 pick.

Top 4 pick. There is always the lottery
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-34, #1 on 1/21)
Post by: jambr380 on January 23, 2017, 11:06:11 PM
Wow! Heat beat GSW and now the Pelicans without AD are about to beat the Cavs. Great night for our pick!


Imagine how awesome we would feel if we beat Cleveland or GSW - two of the worst teams in the league just did it.

That's why the play the games, I guess.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-35, #1 on 1/23)
Post by: Adelaide Celt on January 23, 2017, 11:49:51 PM
I don't think anybody's even mentioned the fact that the Nets lost to a short handed Spurs team by 26 points today. Can't believe we just took that for granted.  ;D
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-34, #1 on 1/21)
Post by: guava_wrench on January 24, 2017, 12:18:07 AM
EVERYONE BACK ONTO WAITERS ISLAND!!!

he should have waited .6 seconds lol
if he missed, that .6 likely gets consumed during rebound.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-34, #1 on 1/21)
Post by: MattyIce on January 24, 2017, 01:13:46 AM
EVERYONE BACK ONTO WAITERS ISLAND!!!

he should have waited .6 seconds lol
if he missed, that .6 likely gets consumed during rebound.

i meant i was worried gsw had time to score, not seriousluy though as beggers can't be choosers..but in reality i was joking
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-35, #1 on 1/23)
Post by: chambers on January 24, 2017, 07:40:07 AM
Jeremy Lin is out another 3- 5 weeks after further aggravating his hamstring.

Thank god the Nets have been ravaged by injuries like last season  ;)

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/244673/Jeremy-Lin-Out-3-5-More-Weeks-After-Re-Aggravating-Hamstring
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-34, #1 on 1/21)
Post by: mef730 on January 24, 2017, 08:21:27 AM
Heat beat the Warriors! Now SIX wins up on the Nets!

Does that make the Lakers the largest threat to our NETANK?

Still Miami for now.  They've got three games coming up with Brooklyn to get back in it, although I don't think it matters.

I agree. The Lakers are the closest, but there are three games remaining heads-up MIA v BKN. If BKN takes all three and Miami ends up trading somebody, it could be close again.

I was thinking of restarting the thread that slamtheking does every year, tracking draft pick position. We've got five full games on the closest competitor, the Lakers, so it may just be counting down the inevitable but, until it's clinched, I remain nervous.

Mike
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-35, #1 on 1/23)
Post by: nickagneta on January 24, 2017, 10:14:29 AM
Jeremy Lin is out another 3- 5 weeks after further aggravating his hamstring.

Thank god the Nets have been ravaged by injuries like last season  ;)

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/244673/Jeremy-Lin-Out-3-5-More-Weeks-After-Re-Aggravating-Hamstring
I thought the Nets were pretty healthy last year. All they reallt did was lose Jack and RHJ for a half season each. Other than that they were healthy.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-35, #1 on 1/23)
Post by: Granath on January 24, 2017, 10:18:21 AM
Jeremy Lin is out another 3- 5 weeks after further aggravating his hamstring.

Thank god the Nets have been ravaged by injuries like last season  ;)

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/244673/Jeremy-Lin-Out-3-5-More-Weeks-After-Re-Aggravating-Hamstring
I thought the Nets were pretty healthy last year. All they reallt did was lose Jack and RHJ for a half season each. Other than that they were healthy.

I'm pretty sure it was sarcasm given LarBrd's constant BS about how the Nets were totally decimated by injuries last year and trying to use that as an excuse on why they weren't able to compete for a playoff spot.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-35, #1 on 1/23)
Post by: GreenShooter on January 24, 2017, 10:19:50 AM
I think it's 90% certain the Nets will finish with the worst record and 100% they'll finish in the top 3. It's looking good for us. A almost guaranteed top 4 pick in this draft isn't too shabby.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-35, #1 on 1/23)
Post by: Ogaju on January 24, 2017, 10:31:18 AM
Boston should reverse tank and give the Lakers another win when we play them...
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-35, #1 on 1/23)
Post by: Granath on January 24, 2017, 10:41:18 AM
Boston should reverse tank and give the Lakers another win when we play them...

I'll take the better chance at home court during the 1st round of the playoffs versus worrying about the Nets only having a 6 game lead on LAL for the worst record in the NBA.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-35, #1 on 1/23)
Post by: nickagneta on January 24, 2017, 10:48:50 AM
Boston should reverse tank and give the Lakers another win when we play them...
The day the Celtics lose to the Lakers on purpose is the day I stop being a Celtic fan and NBA watcher
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-35, #1 on 1/23)
Post by: slamtheking on January 24, 2017, 10:51:09 AM
Boston should reverse tank and give the Lakers another win when we play them...
did this notion of losing to the Lakers actually get posted here?  talk about a post that would inspire the reinstatement of giving negative TPs
Title: Re: The Official 2016
Post by: Ogaju on January 24, 2017, 10:58:15 AM
Boston should reverse tank and give the Lakers another win when we play them...
did this notion of losing to the Lakers actually get posted here?  talk about a post that would inspire the reinstatement of giving negative TPs

that is a win SlamKing... you have to think critically here. Any Laker win is a LOSS for the Lakers.

In the world of tanking a win is a loss and vice versa.
Title: Re: The Official 2016
Post by: mef730 on January 24, 2017, 11:00:58 AM
Boston should reverse tank and give the Lakers another win when we play them...
did this notion of losing to the Lakers actually get posted here?  talk about a post that would inspire the reinstatement of giving negative TPs

that is a win SlamKing... you have to think critically here. Any Laker win is a LOSS for the Lakers.

In the world of tanking a win is a loss and vice versa.

I've never rooted for the Celtics to tank and would certainly not do so in a game against the Lakers. My goal for that game is to top the 49-point margin by which the Mavs defeated them.

Mike
Title: Re: The Official 2016
Post by: hwangjini_1 on January 24, 2017, 11:17:35 AM
Boston should reverse tank and give the Lakers another win when we play them...
did this notion of losing to the Lakers actually get posted here?  talk about a post that would inspire the reinstatement of giving negative TPs

that is a win SlamKing... you have to think critically here. Any Laker win is a LOSS for the Lakers.

In the world of tanking a win is a loss and vice versa.
no. this is simply evil thinking. no.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-35, #1 on 1/23)
Post by: mef730 on January 24, 2017, 12:07:05 PM
First thought today: The Nets aren't playing tonight, so I don't have to be glued to the TV.

Second thought today: Oh, wait, the Celtics are on.

Priorities in order? Not so much.

Mike
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-35, #1 on 1/23)
Post by: GreenShooter on January 24, 2017, 12:56:54 PM
If the Lakers keep losing and wind up with the first pick, they'll likely select Lonzo Ball. I call "fix is in" if that happens.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-35, #1 on 1/23)
Post by: The One on January 24, 2017, 01:02:04 PM
If the Lakers keep losing and wind up with the first pick, they'll likely select Lonzo Ball. I call "fix is in" if that happens.

I think they trade it for Boogie.
Title: Re: The Official 2016
Post by: SHAQATTACK on January 24, 2017, 01:18:03 PM
Boston should reverse tank and give the Lakers another win when we play them...
did this notion of losing to the Lakers actually get posted here?  talk about a post that would inspire the reinstatement of giving negative TPs

that is a win SlamKing... you have to think critically here. Any Laker win is a LOSS for the Lakers.

In the world of tanking a win is a loss and vice versa.

Peeking in on Lakers blogs .  There seem to be more joy over losing than winning games.    The days of a big market team cheating small market teams out of their star draft picks are over.   Lakers pretty much have to rebuild like anyone else now .    Lakers fans screaming we aren't use to losing for long periods ...my thought .....too bad ...so sad .     Walton s pedigree does not allow him to be a willing tanker . 
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-35, #1 on 1/23)
Post by: clevelandceltic on January 24, 2017, 06:42:19 PM
Boston should reverse tank and give the Lakers another win when we play them...
The day the Celtics lose to the Lakers on purpose is the day I stop being a Celtic fan and NBA watcher

This deserves a thousand TPs
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-35, #1 on 1/23)
Post by: libermaniac on January 24, 2017, 09:28:20 PM
Sixers are going to win again.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-35, #1 on 1/23)
Post by: tazzmaniac on January 24, 2017, 09:31:58 PM
Sixers are going to win again.
And they're doing it without Embiid.  Looks like Noel and Richaun Holmes, their 4th string center, both had good games. 

Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-35, #1 on 1/23)
Post by: hpantazo on January 24, 2017, 09:34:53 PM
Sixers are going to win again.
And they're doing it without Embiid.  Looks like Noel and Richaun Holmes, their 4th string center, both had good games.

Saric had a great game for them tonight.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-35, #1 on 1/23)
Post by: slamtheking on January 24, 2017, 09:43:51 PM
Boston should reverse tank and give the Lakers another win when we play them...
did this notion of losing to the Lakers actually get posted here?  talk about a post that would inspire the reinstatement of giving negative TPs

that is a win SlamKing... you have to think critically here. Any Laker win is a LOSS for the Lakers.

In the world of tanking a win is a loss and vice versa.
no, it's a loss.  a very bad loss.  C's getting wins has a direct impact on their positioning for the playoffs.   C's have no vested interest in the Laker pick, only the Nets pick.  If Lakers keep their pick from the Sixers this year, they're still a long way from getting near a playoff spot in the near and probably not-so-near future.

I don't care what the situations are for either team when they play.  the only thing that matters is beating the Lakers both at home and in LA.   no exceptions to that golden rule
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-35, #1 on 1/23)
Post by: mef730 on January 25, 2017, 08:46:08 AM
Big game tonight, #1 vs. #2. A Miami win tonight would be a big lift.

Other games: Dallas hosting Knicks, Portland hosting Lakers.

Last night's last-second Phoenix loss moved them into a tie for 2nd with Miami. They've still got a shot.

Mike
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-35, #1 on 1/23)
Post by: jpotter33 on January 25, 2017, 07:00:40 PM
Big game with Miami at Brooklyn tonight.

If Miami beats Brooklyn tonight, is it fair to conclude that Miami is no longer a threat to overtake the Nets as the worst team/record in the league? That would put Brooklyn at 9-36 and Miami at 16-30, a full 7 wins above the Nets and 6.5 games in the standings.

I already think that LAL is the biggest threat to the Nets over the Heat, since the Lakers will be outright tanking from here on out, and even at that I think there's a 90% possibility of the Nets ending with the worst record in the NBA in April over the Lakers.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-35, #1 on 1/23)
Post by: Big333223 on January 25, 2017, 07:33:56 PM
Big game with Miami at Brooklyn tonight.

If Miami beats Brooklyn tonight, is it fair to conclude that Miami is no longer a threat to overtake the Nets as the worst team/record in the league? That would put Brooklyn at 9-36 and Miami at 16-30, a full 7 wins above the Nets and 6.5 games in the standings.

I already think that LAL is the biggest threat to the Nets over the Heat, since the Lakers will be outright tanking from here on out, and even at that I think there's a 90% possibility of the Nets ending with the worst record in the NBA in April over the Lakers.
It's funny how fast the Lakers fell. I think most of us figured the Lakers' .500 start was fool's gold but it's taken no time at all to get them into the #2 position in the lottery.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-35, #1 on 1/23)
Post by: libermaniac on January 25, 2017, 09:57:06 PM
Waiters!!!!!!!

3 pointer.  Heat all the way back to take 4 point lead with 6 to go!!!
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-35, #1 on 1/23)
Post by: trickybilly on January 25, 2017, 10:01:26 PM
Mmm, just smelling fultzy these days..

Hassan Whiteside 21 mins, 1 rebound, 1 block  :o
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-35, #1 on 1/23)
Post by: SCeltic34 on January 25, 2017, 10:02:44 PM
Wow.  Wasn't Miami down double digits heading into the 4th?  I was busy watching the C's game but I glanced at the score and it didn't look good.  What a great surprise.  The Heat apparently put together a 38 to 17 4th quarter. 
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-35, #1 on 1/23)
Post by: mef730 on January 25, 2017, 10:04:19 PM
Wow.  Wasn't Miami down double digits heading into the 4th?  I was busy watching the C's game but I glanced at the score and it didn't look good.  What a great surprise.  The Heat apparently put together a 38 to 17 4th quarter.

Hey, why can't the Nets make change for a dollar?

Because they've only got three quarters.

Hee hee hee,
Mike
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-35, #1 on 1/23)
Post by: Monkhouse on January 25, 2017, 10:05:11 PM
Does anyone think the Lakers have a chance of making the playoffs or are they completely screwed?
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-35, #1 on 1/23)
Post by: Monkhouse on January 25, 2017, 10:05:46 PM
Wow.  Wasn't Miami down double digits heading into the 4th?  I was busy watching the C's game but I glanced at the score and it didn't look good.  What a great surprise.  The Heat apparently put together a 38 to 17 4th quarter.

Hey, why can't the Nets make change for a dollar?

Because they've only got three quarters.

Hee hee hee,
Mike

TP.

Oldie, but a goodie.

Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-35, #1 on 1/23)
Post by: Adelaide Celt on January 25, 2017, 10:06:20 PM
Incredible. Nothing more to say.  ;D
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-35, #1 on 1/23)
Post by: clevelandceltic on January 25, 2017, 10:09:11 PM
This race is over. The only interest left is where the Lakers and Sixers finish the year. The Nets have no chance of making up 7 wins.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-35, #1 on 1/23)
Post by: slamtheking on January 25, 2017, 10:11:14 PM
This race is over. The only interest left is where the Lakers and Sixers finish the year. The Nets have no chance of making up 7 wins.
agreed.  even if the Lakers, Miami, etc… go into full on tank mode, they'll still win a few more games this year.  Nets would have to win another 10 games in less than half a season to realistically pass anyone else.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-35, #1 on 1/23)
Post by: clevelandceltic on January 25, 2017, 10:17:16 PM
Lakers dont need to make the playoffs. They just need a few more wins to be in the 6th or 7th spot which they can easily do with another win or 2.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-35, #1 on 1/23)
Post by: clevelandceltic on January 25, 2017, 10:18:31 PM
This race is over. The only interest left is where the Lakers and Sixers finish the year. The Nets have no chance of making up 7 wins.
agreed.  even if the Lakers, Miami, etc… go into full on tank mode, they'll still win a few more games this year.  Nets would have to win another 10 games in less than half a season to realistically pass anyone else.

It was really over when every team went 5 games up but yeah I totally agree with you.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-35, #1 on 1/23)
Post by: Smokeeye123 on January 25, 2017, 10:19:08 PM
I saw they were down 10 halfway through the 4th and was mildly disappointed.

TOO BAD I FORGOT THIS IS THE NETS WE ARE TALKING ABOUT. WOOOOO
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-36, #1 on 1/25)
Post by: Quetzalcoatl on January 25, 2017, 10:34:10 PM
They locked up top odds well in advance of the trade deadline, too!  All options are on the table
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-36, #1 on 1/25)
Post by: max215 on January 25, 2017, 10:51:54 PM
They locked up top odds well in advance of the trade deadline, too!  All options are on the table

Such an incredible position to be in.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-36, #1 on 1/25)
Post by: mahcus smaht on January 25, 2017, 10:53:31 PM
They locked up top odds well in advance of the trade deadline, too!  All options are on the table
Im in disbelief.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-36, #1 on 1/25)
Post by: ImShakHeIsShaq on January 25, 2017, 10:54:02 PM
dal gets another w hehe bottom teams, ty.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-36, #1 on 1/25)
Post by: libermaniac on January 26, 2017, 12:31:51 AM
Let's stop with the "it's over" comments. No need to tempt the basketball gods. Also, the Nets have several winnable games over the next 6 or so games so they could cut it back down to 3 or 4 and make us sweat again. Plus rooting for them to lose is fun!  I'll miss this thread if they lock it up too soon.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-36, #1 on 1/25)
Post by: clevelandceltic on January 26, 2017, 12:43:00 AM
Let's stop with the "it's over" comments. No need to tempt the basketball gods. Also, the Nets have several winnable games over the next 6 or so games so they could cut it back down to 3 or 4 and make us sweat again. Plus rooting for them to lose is fun!  I'll miss this thread if they lock it up too soon.

The numbers support it pretty much being over. Phx is 6 wins up and the next closest teams are 7 up. The Nets have only won 9 game all year. They would have to win 7 of 37 and hope that no team above them wins a game the rest of the year.

Their next 3 games are likely to sink them with the Cavs, Twolves, and Heat again. If they dont win any of those 3 I just dont see how it will be possible.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-35, #1 on 1/23)
Post by: A Future of Stevens on January 26, 2017, 06:20:20 AM
I saw they were down 10 halfway through the 4th and was mildly disappointed.

TOO BAD I FORGOT THIS IS THE NETS WE ARE TALKING ABOUT. WOOOOO

Wait they won?!?!?!?!?! They were down 12 with 7:00 or so to go so I stopped checking it and went to bed.

My god I love the taste of Brooklyn fans tears.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-36, #1 on 1/25)
Post by: Granath on January 26, 2017, 06:25:36 AM
Let's stop with the "it's over" comments. No need to tempt the basketball gods. Also, the Nets have several winnable games over the next 6 or so games so they could cut it back down to 3 or 4 and make us sweat again. Plus rooting for them to lose is fun!  I'll miss this thread if they lock it up too soon.

The numbers support it pretty much being over. Phx is 6 wins up and the next closest teams are 7 up. The Nets have only won 9 game all year. They would have to win 7 of 37 and hope that no team above them wins a game the rest of the year.

Their next 3 games are likely to sink them with the Cavs, Twolves, and Heat again. If they dont win any of those 3 I just dont see how it will be possible.

Most likely you are correct. Still, I'm not counting my chickens before they hatch. The Nets will win some games down the stretch as their schedule is very easy and the majority is at home.

Still, nice position to be in, eh?   ;D
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-36, #1 on 1/25)
Post by: nickagneta on January 26, 2017, 09:18:55 AM
I don't watch every Nets game or flow their score during games anymore. I am 100% confident that this Nets team is the worst in the league, have been since the season started. I am dead sure they will have the worst record at the end of the year.

But the NBA lottery scares the crap out of my hopes for a top two pick. I want Ball or Fultz and the only way that happens is if the ping pong balls are good to us, which they never have been.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-36, #1 on 1/25)
Post by: clevelandceltic on January 26, 2017, 09:56:50 AM
Let's stop with the "it's over" comments. No need to tempt the basketball gods. Also, the Nets have several winnable games over the next 6 or so games so they could cut it back down to 3 or 4 and make us sweat again. Plus rooting for them to lose is fun!  I'll miss this thread if they lock it up too soon.

The numbers support it pretty much being over. Phx is 6 wins up and the next closest teams are 7 up. The Nets have only won 9 game all year. They would have to win 7 of 37 and hope that no team above them wins a game the rest of the year.

Their next 3 games are likely to sink them with the Cavs, Twolves, and Heat again. If they dont win any of those 3 I just dont see how it will be possible.

Most likely you are correct. Still, I'm not counting my chickens before they hatch. The Nets will win some games down the stretch as their schedule is very easy and the majority is at home.

Still, nice position to be in, eh?   ;D

Honestly, iM not saying this from a perspective of hoping the Nets end up with the worst record. Im saying it just based on the numbers. Six or seven wins is alot of wins to make up considering that they only have won 9 in 45 games. Do you really expect them to win 6 or 7 in 35 games? This is also the assumption that the teams infront of them do not win a game the rest of the year which wont happen. 
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-36, #1 on 1/25)
Post by: CroCorvus on January 26, 2017, 10:33:36 AM
This is sooo sad, no fan base should ever go through this seriously lol
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-36, #1 on 1/25)
Post by: nickagneta on January 26, 2017, 10:53:19 AM
This is sooo sad, no fan base should ever go through this seriously lol
I have no problem with Laker, Sixer and Knick fan bases going through years of god awful play for years at a time. Not even a little bit.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-36, #1 on 1/25)
Post by: bopna on January 26, 2017, 11:26:11 AM
This is sooo sad, no fan base should ever go through this seriously lol

Celtic Basketball from 94 to 2007 was awful and terrible...the only bright spot being 2002 but that was foools gold ..The Fakers must have a period of 10 Freakin yrs of crap...yeah they deserve it.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-36, #1 on 1/25)
Post by: bopna on January 26, 2017, 11:30:17 AM
Let's stop with the "it's over" comments. No need to tempt the basketball gods. Also, the Nets have several winnable games over the next 6 or so games so they could cut it back down to 3 or 4 and make us sweat again. Plus rooting for them to lose is fun!  I'll miss this thread if they lock it up too soon.

The numbers support it pretty much being over. Phx is 6 wins up and the next closest teams are 7 up. The Nets have only won 9 game all year. They would have to win 7 of 37 and hope that no team above them wins a game the rest of the year.

Their next 3 games are likely to sink them with the Cavs, Twolves, and Heat again. If they dont win any of those 3 I just dont see how it will be possible.

Most likely you are correct. Still, I'm not counting my chickens before they hatch. The Nets will win some games down the stretch as their schedule is very easy and the majority is at home.

Still, nice position to be in, eh?   ;D

Honestly, iM not saying this from a perspective of hoping the Nets end up with the worst record. Im saying it just based on the numbers. Six or seven wins is alot of wins to make up considering that they only have won 9 in 45 games. Do you really expect them to win 6 or 7 in 35 games? This is also the assumption that the teams infront of them do not win a game the rest of the year which wont happen.

I actually do wish the Nets win sometimes...specially if it specifically helps us like I wouldn't mind a victory against the Hawks, Cavs or Toronto really...the rest of the way they can suck.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-36, #1 on 1/25)
Post by: mef730 on January 26, 2017, 12:43:36 PM
This is sooo sad, no fan base should ever go through this seriously lol
I have no problem with Laker, Sixer and Knick fan bases going through years of god awful play for years at a time. Not even a little bit.

I agree. I have no beef with the Nets. I'm rooting against them because they are in our way, just as I have no beef with the Atlanta Falcons. I wish them both well, unless they are between us and something we want.

I grew up hating the Lakers, Sixers and Knicks. They're personal.

When I started this post, I was thinking that the Nets have a ridiculously easy schedule and could make up the gap. But, after running the numbers below, I'm feeling better, since PHX and LAL also have easier second half schedules. I believe the numbers, not my intuition.

I'm not ready to call the season over, although a statistical analysis would show that it's not going to be easy for the Nets to make up the gap. I think they still have three real competitors for that bottom spot: LAL, Phoenix and Miami (in declining order of "challenger power"). There are currently 12 teams playing >.500, 2 playing at .500 and 14 <.500.

Sadly, strength of schedule counts, and for the Nets schedule gets a bit easier: They've played 25 games so far against teams >.500, 20 games against teams <.500. Of their remaining 37 games, 23 are against teams that are currently .500 or below (two of the 23 are against teams at .500). Of those 23, only six are teams that are .600 or better (including two against us). I'm assuming that Jeremy Lin is out until Mar 1. After 3/1, they have 24 games, 15 of which are against teams below .500 (currently). I have to believe that they are a better team with a well-rested Lin than without one.

Not everything is that bad. They're on the road for 20 of those 37 games. They have no reason to play Brook Lopez in April. Hopefully, the east stays bunched up at the top, because two of their last three games are against the Bulls.

By comparison, the Lakers have 33 games left. Of those games, 15 are against .500 or better teams, 18 against the rest. 16/15 home/road (or vice versa).

Like the Nets, Phoenix also has 37 games remaining, with 22 remaining against <.500 teams.

Miami has 36 games remaining, with 24 of those against the below .500 crowd. They have two games left against BKN, so let's hope the Heat show up for both of those.

The Lakers do seem to be the biggest threat right now, only five games ahead (seven in the win column, three in the loss). Phoenix, at six games back, represents a threat if Eric Bledsoe goes down. The Lakers and Suns have two games against each other remaining.

Of course, if Lopez goes down for any extended period of time, none of the above matters.

After having looked at the numbers, I feel better than I thought I would when I first began to look at the numbers.

Mike
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-36, #1 on 1/25)
Post by: nickagneta on January 26, 2017, 12:54:42 PM
This is sooo sad, no fan base should ever go through this seriously lol
I have no problem with Laker, Sixer and Knick fan bases going through years of god awful play for years at a time. Not even a little bit.

I agree. I have no beef with the Nets. I'm rooting against them because they are in our way, just as I have no beef with the Atlanta Falcons. I wish them both well, unless they are between us and something we want.

I grew up hating the Lakers, Sixers and Knicks. They're personal.

When I started this post, I was thinking that the Nets have a ridiculously easy schedule and could make up the gap. But, after running the numbers below, I'm feeling better, since PHX and LAL also have easier second half schedules. I believe the numbers, not my intuition.

I'm not ready to call the season over, although a statistical analysis would show that it's not going to be easy for the Nets to make up the gap. I think they still have three real competitors for that bottom spot: LAL, Phoenix and Miami (in declining order of "challenger power"). There are currently 12 teams playing >.500, 2 playing at .500 and 14 <.500.

Sadly, strength of schedule counts, and for the Nets schedule gets a bit easier: They've played 25 games so far against teams >.500, 20 games against teams <.500. Of their remaining 37 games, 23 are against teams that are currently .500 or below (two of the 23 are against teams at .500). Of those 23, only six are teams that are .600 or better (including two against us). I'm assuming that Jeremy Lin is out until Mar 1. After 3/1, they have 24 games, 15 of which are against teams below .500 (currently). I have to believe that they are a better team with a well-rested Lin than without one.

Not everything is that bad. They're on the road for 20 of those 37 games. They have no reason to play Brook Lopez in April. Hopefully, the east stays bunched up at the top, because two of their last three games are against the Bulls.

By comparison, the Lakers have 33 games left. Of those games, 15 are against .500 or better teams, 18 against the rest. 16/15 home/road (or vice versa).

Like the Nets, Phoenix also has 37 games remaining, with 22 remaining against <.500 teams.

Miami has 36 games remaining, with 24 of those against the below .500 crowd. They have two games left against BKN, so let's hope the Heat show up for both of those.

The Lakers do seem to be the biggest threat right now, only five games ahead (seven in the win column, three in the loss). Phoenix, at six games back, represents a threat if Eric Bledsoe goes down. The Lakers and Suns have two games against each other remaining.

Of course, if Lopez goes down for any extended period of time, none of the above matters.

After having looked at the numbers, I feel better than I thought I would when I first began to look at the numbers.

Mike
Excellent stuff as usual Mike...TP
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-36, #1 on 1/25)
Post by: Boris Badenov on January 26, 2017, 01:08:22 PM
Here's some perspective on the numbers:

The Nets have played .200 ball to date. Suppose they improve to .333 for the rest of the way, which is a substantial change. They'd end up 21-61.

To "catch" them, the Lakers would need to go 5-28, which is .150 ball, and they've played .327 ball to date.

So basically, this is very, very unlikely to happen.

Now, keep in mind that even if this low-probability event happens, all it does is reduce our chances at the #1 pick from 25% to 20%, and for a top 3 pick from 64% to 56%.

Just to put some numbers on things, if you think there's a 10% chance that someone else catches the Nets, then our probabilities of getting picks are:

#1 pick: 24.5%
Top 3: 63.4%

Whereas if the season ended today, they would be:

#1 pick: 25%
Top 3: 64.3%

The upshot: for all practical purposes, our odds of getting the #1 pick are pretty close to what they'd be if the season ended today, even looking out to the end of the season and allowing for a sensible chance that someone catches BKN.


Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-36, #1 on 1/25)
Post by: CelticGuardian on January 26, 2017, 01:16:22 PM
What are the chances of Caris LeVert spoiling our fun? They seem too far back from the other bad teams and they've never had winning streak to speak of.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-36, #1 on 1/25)
Post by: apc on January 26, 2017, 01:25:45 PM
Due to fact the Nest are not purposely tanking, I think they should be rewarded with a few more ping pong balls.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-36, #1 on 1/25)
Post by: nickagneta on January 26, 2017, 01:40:31 PM
What are the chances of Caris LeVert spoiling our fun? They seem too far back from the other bad teams and they've never had winning streak to speak of.
None. One hot player will never be enough to turn around that abysmal team to start playing .400 ball, which is probably what the Nets would have to play in order to not have the worst record.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-36, #1 on 1/25)
Post by: mef730 on January 26, 2017, 02:02:27 PM
Here's some perspective on the numbers:

The Nets have played .200 ball to date. Suppose they improve to .333 for the rest of the way, which is a substantial change. They'd end up 21-61.

To "catch" them, the Lakers would need to go 5-28, which is .150 ball, and they've played .327 ball to date.

So basically, this is very, very unlikely to happen.

Now, keep in mind that even if this low-probability event happens, all it does is reduce our chances at the #1 pick from 25% to 20%, and for a top 3 pick from 64% to 56%.

Just to put some numbers on things, if you think there's a 10% chance that someone else catches the Nets, then our probabilities of getting picks are:

#1 pick: 24.5%
Top 3: 63.4%

Whereas if the season ended today, they would be:

#1 pick: 25%
Top 3: 64.3%

The upshot: for all practical purposes, our odds of getting the #1 pick are pretty close to what they'd be if the season ended today, even looking out to the end of the season and allowing for a sensible chance that someone catches BKN.

Not totally out of the realm of possibility, given that they went 6-23 after a 10-10 start. But yes, I am cherry picking my numbers and time frame.

Mike
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-36, #1 on 1/25)
Post by: clevelandceltic on January 26, 2017, 02:47:33 PM
Here's some perspective on the numbers:

The Nets have played .200 ball to date. Suppose they improve to .333 for the rest of the way, which is a substantial change. They'd end up 21-61.

To "catch" them, the Lakers would need to go 5-28, which is .150 ball, and they've played .327 ball to date.

So basically, this is very, very unlikely to happen.

Now, keep in mind that even if this low-probability event happens, all it does is reduce our chances at the #1 pick from 25% to 20%, and for a top 3 pick from 64% to 56%.

Just to put some numbers on things, if you think there's a 10% chance that someone else catches the Nets, then our probabilities of getting picks are:

#1 pick: 24.5%
Top 3: 63.4%

Whereas if the season ended today, they would be:

#1 pick: 25%
Top 3: 64.3%

The upshot: for all practical purposes, our odds of getting the #1 pick are pretty close to what they'd be if the season ended today, even looking out to the end of the season and allowing for a sensible chance that someone catches BKN.

Not totally out of the realm of possibility, given that they went 6-23 after a 10-10 start. But yes, I am cherry picking my numbers and time frame.

Mike

Nice work. I will say that it will be hard for the Nets to catch the Lakers considering the Lakers have a 7 game cushion in the win column. Lakers have played 49 games with 33 to go. Even winning 4 of those games puts a ton of pressure on the Nets.

Here is another little nugget. Everyone should be rooting for the Lakers to win as much as possible and heres why. Everyone knows that the Lakers have to give up their pick to the Sixers if its not top 3. What is rarely discussed is the fact that they also owe the Magic a 1st rd pick. If the Lakers keep their pick this year then the 2019 pick they owe becomes 2nd rds. If they lose the pick to the Sixers this year they also lose a 1st in 19.

So all in all everyone should should root for them to win games to not give Philly a good pick but also it wouldnt allow them to keep their 19 pick either.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-36, #1 on 1/25)
Post by: jpotter33 on January 26, 2017, 02:53:38 PM
Here's some perspective on the numbers:

The Nets have played .200 ball to date. Suppose they improve to .333 for the rest of the way, which is a substantial change. They'd end up 21-61.

To "catch" them, the Lakers would need to go 5-28, which is .150 ball, and they've played .327 ball to date.

So basically, this is very, very unlikely to happen.

Now, keep in mind that even if this low-probability event happens, all it does is reduce our chances at the #1 pick from 25% to 20%, and for a top 3 pick from 64% to 56%.

Just to put some numbers on things, if you think there's a 10% chance that someone else catches the Nets, then our probabilities of getting picks are:

#1 pick: 24.5%
Top 3: 63.4%

Whereas if the season ended today, they would be:

#1 pick: 25%
Top 3: 64.3%

The upshot: for all practical purposes, our odds of getting the #1 pick are pretty close to what they'd be if the season ended today, even looking out to the end of the season and allowing for a sensible chance that someone catches BKN.

Not totally out of the realm of possibility, given that they went 6-23 after a 10-10 start. But yes, I am cherry picking my numbers and time frame.

Mike

Nice work. I will say that it will be hard for the Nets to catch the Lakers considering the Lakers have a 7 game cushion in the win column. Lakers have played 49 games with 33 to go. Even winning 4 of those games puts a ton of pressure on the Nets.

Here is another little nugget. Everyone should be rooting for the Lakers to win as much as possible and heres why. Everyone knows that the Lakers have to give up their pick to the Sixers if its not top 3. What is rarely discussed is the fact that they also owe the Magic a 1st rd pick. If the Lakers keep their pick this year then the 2019 pick they owe becomes 2nd rds. If they lose the pick to the Sixers this year they also lose a 1st in 19.

So all in all everyone should should root for them to win games to not give Philly a good pick but also it wouldnt allow them to keep their 19 pick either.

No, we should be hoping for them to lose as much as possible and stay in the bottom two (but not below the Nets!). I'd much rather the Lakers get a top pick this draft that is guard-heavy than the Sixers, who could very well project to be a dominant force with another franchise-level player to add to the mix.

However, with their current winning streak and some luck from the Lakers staying in the top 3, they could ultimately only have a mid lottery pick in this draft, which would slow them down a bit in their development without any real rotation level guards on their roster.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-36, #1 on 1/25)
Post by: clevelandceltic on January 26, 2017, 08:08:30 PM
Here's some perspective on the numbers:

The Nets have played .200 ball to date. Suppose they improve to .333 for the rest of the way, which is a substantial change. They'd end up 21-61.

To "catch" them, the Lakers would need to go 5-28, which is .150 ball, and they've played .327 ball to date.

So basically, this is very, very unlikely to happen.

Now, keep in mind that even if this low-probability event happens, all it does is reduce our chances at the #1 pick from 25% to 20%, and for a top 3 pick from 64% to 56%.

Just to put some numbers on things, if you think there's a 10% chance that someone else catches the Nets, then our probabilities of getting picks are:

#1 pick: 24.5%
Top 3: 63.4%

Whereas if the season ended today, they would be:

#1 pick: 25%
Top 3: 64.3%

The upshot: for all practical purposes, our odds of getting the #1 pick are pretty close to what they'd be if the season ended today, even looking out to the end of the season and allowing for a sensible chance that someone catches BKN.

Not totally out of the realm of possibility, given that they went 6-23 after a 10-10 start. But yes, I am cherry picking my numbers and time frame.

Mike

Nice work. I will say that it will be hard for the Nets to catch the Lakers considering the Lakers have a 7 game cushion in the win column. Lakers have played 49 games with 33 to go. Even winning 4 of those games puts a ton of pressure on the Nets.

Here is another little nugget. Everyone should be rooting for the Lakers to win as much as possible and heres why. Everyone knows that the Lakers have to give up their pick to the Sixers if its not top 3. What is rarely discussed is the fact that they also owe the Magic a 1st rd pick. If the Lakers keep their pick this year then the 2019 pick they owe becomes 2nd rds. If they lose the pick to the Sixers this year they also lose a 1st in 19.

So all in all everyone should should root for them to win games to not give Philly a good pick but also it wouldnt allow them to keep their 19 pick either.

No, we should be hoping for them to lose as much as possible and stay in the bottom two (but not below the Nets!). I'd much rather the Lakers get a top pick this draft that is guard-heavy than the Sixers, who could very well project to be a dominant force with another franchise-level player to add to the mix.

However, with their current winning streak and some luck from the Lakers staying in the top 3, they could ultimately only have a mid lottery pick in this draft, which would slow them down a bit in their development without any real rotation level guards on their roster.

I dont understand this at all. If the Lakers finished 6th and gave the pick up to the Sixers and they lose their 19 1st rd pick why would you be in favor of them keeping the pick and getting a top player?
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-36, #1 on 1/25)
Post by: Ilikesports17 on January 26, 2017, 08:21:32 PM
Here's some perspective on the numbers:

The Nets have played .200 ball to date. Suppose they improve to .333 for the rest of the way, which is a substantial change. They'd end up 21-61.

To "catch" them, the Lakers would need to go 5-28, which is .150 ball, and they've played .327 ball to date.

So basically, this is very, very unlikely to happen.

Now, keep in mind that even if this low-probability event happens, all it does is reduce our chances at the #1 pick from 25% to 20%, and for a top 3 pick from 64% to 56%.

Just to put some numbers on things, if you think there's a 10% chance that someone else catches the Nets, then our probabilities of getting picks are:

#1 pick: 24.5%
Top 3: 63.4%

Whereas if the season ended today, they would be:

#1 pick: 25%
Top 3: 64.3%

The upshot: for all practical purposes, our odds of getting the #1 pick are pretty close to what they'd be if the season ended today, even looking out to the end of the season and allowing for a sensible chance that someone catches BKN.

Not totally out of the realm of possibility, given that they went 6-23 after a 10-10 start. But yes, I am cherry picking my numbers and time frame.

Mike

Nice work. I will say that it will be hard for the Nets to catch the Lakers considering the Lakers have a 7 game cushion in the win column. Lakers have played 49 games with 33 to go. Even winning 4 of those games puts a ton of pressure on the Nets.

Here is another little nugget. Everyone should be rooting for the Lakers to win as much as possible and heres why. Everyone knows that the Lakers have to give up their pick to the Sixers if its not top 3. What is rarely discussed is the fact that they also owe the Magic a 1st rd pick. If the Lakers keep their pick this year then the 2019 pick they owe becomes 2nd rds. If they lose the pick to the Sixers this year they also lose a 1st in 19.

So all in all everyone should should root for them to win games to not give Philly a good pick but also it wouldnt allow them to keep their 19 pick either.

No, we should be hoping for them to lose as much as possible and stay in the bottom two (but not below the Nets!). I'd much rather the Lakers get a top pick this draft that is guard-heavy than the Sixers, who could very well project to be a dominant force with another franchise-level player to add to the mix.

However, with their current winning streak and some luck from the Lakers staying in the top 3, they could ultimately only have a mid lottery pick in this draft, which would slow them down a bit in their development without any real rotation level guards on their roster.

I dont understand this at all. If the Lakers finished 6th and gave the pick up to the Sixers and they lose their 19 1st rd pick why would you be in favor of them keeping the pick and getting a top player?
The Sixers core frightens me more than LAs does. Id rather see the Lakers get a top 3 pick then see Philly get a 3-6 range pick.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-36, #1 on 1/25)
Post by: jambr380 on January 26, 2017, 08:32:59 PM
I absolutely do not want to see the Lakers get an undeserved top pick in this draft and KEEP their '19 pick. Being scared of future Philly is reasonable, but this is the freakin' Lakers we are taking about and we just can't let them pass us in championships. This is like the most important thing in the NBA world.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-36, #1 on 1/25)
Post by: jpotter33 on January 26, 2017, 08:36:15 PM
Here's some perspective on the numbers:

The Nets have played .200 ball to date. Suppose they improve to .333 for the rest of the way, which is a substantial change. They'd end up 21-61.

To "catch" them, the Lakers would need to go 5-28, which is .150 ball, and they've played .327 ball to date.

So basically, this is very, very unlikely to happen.

Now, keep in mind that even if this low-probability event happens, all it does is reduce our chances at the #1 pick from 25% to 20%, and for a top 3 pick from 64% to 56%.

Just to put some numbers on things, if you think there's a 10% chance that someone else catches the Nets, then our probabilities of getting picks are:

#1 pick: 24.5%
Top 3: 63.4%

Whereas if the season ended today, they would be:

#1 pick: 25%
Top 3: 64.3%

The upshot: for all practical purposes, our odds of getting the #1 pick are pretty close to what they'd be if the season ended today, even looking out to the end of the season and allowing for a sensible chance that someone catches BKN.

Not totally out of the realm of possibility, given that they went 6-23 after a 10-10 start. But yes, I am cherry picking my numbers and time frame.

Mike

Nice work. I will say that it will be hard for the Nets to catch the Lakers considering the Lakers have a 7 game cushion in the win column. Lakers have played 49 games with 33 to go. Even winning 4 of those games puts a ton of pressure on the Nets.

Here is another little nugget. Everyone should be rooting for the Lakers to win as much as possible and heres why. Everyone knows that the Lakers have to give up their pick to the Sixers if its not top 3. What is rarely discussed is the fact that they also owe the Magic a 1st rd pick. If the Lakers keep their pick this year then the 2019 pick they owe becomes 2nd rds. If they lose the pick to the Sixers this year they also lose a 1st in 19.

So all in all everyone should should root for them to win games to not give Philly a good pick but also it wouldnt allow them to keep their 19 pick either.

No, we should be hoping for them to lose as much as possible and stay in the bottom two (but not below the Nets!). I'd much rather the Lakers get a top pick this draft that is guard-heavy than the Sixers, who could very well project to be a dominant force with another franchise-level player to add to the mix.

However, with their current winning streak and some luck from the Lakers staying in the top 3, they could ultimately only have a mid lottery pick in this draft, which would slow them down a bit in their development without any real rotation level guards on their roster.

I dont understand this at all. If the Lakers finished 6th and gave the pick up to the Sixers and they lose their 19 1st rd pick why would you be in favor of them keeping the pick and getting a top player?
The Sixers core frightens me more than LAs does. Id rather see the Lakers get a top 3 pick then see Philly get a 3-6 range pick.[/b]

Pretty much this. The Sixers have a nice core of big guys right now, but they're absolutely empty on decent, rotation-level guards. You add someone like a Smith to that group, and they could be dangerous down the line.

The Lakers are much less stacked, and if between the two one of them would become a superteam, I'd rather it be the Lakers in the West rather than the Sixers in the East, let alone our own division.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-36, #1 on 1/25)
Post by: GratefulCs on January 26, 2017, 08:58:49 PM
I absolutely do not want to see the Lakers get an undeserved top pick in this draft and KEEP their '19 pick. Being scared of future Philly is reasonable, but this is the freakin' Lakers we are taking about and we just can't let them pass us in championships. This is like the most important thing in the NBA world.
Bingo
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-36, #1 on 1/25)
Post by: Boris Badenov on January 26, 2017, 09:13:34 PM

The Sixers core frightens me more than LAs does. Id rather see the Lakers get a top 3 pick then see Philly get a 3-6 range pick.[/b]

Pretty much this. The Sixers have a nice core of big guys right now, but they're absolutely empty on decent, rotation-level guards. You add someone like a Smith to that group, and they could be dangerous down the line.

The Lakers are much less stacked, and if between the two one of them would become a superteam, I'd rather it be the Lakers in the West rather than the Sixers in the East, let alone our own division.

I simmed the lottery the other day and Philly got #1 and #4. NOOOOOOOOOO!!!
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-36, #1 on 1/25)
Post by: mef730 on January 27, 2017, 11:23:23 AM

The Sixers core frightens me more than LAs does. Id rather see the Lakers get a top 3 pick then see Philly get a 3-6 range pick.[/b]

Pretty much this. The Sixers have a nice core of big guys right now, but they're absolutely empty on decent, rotation-level guards. You add someone like a Smith to that group, and they could be dangerous down the line.

The Lakers are much less stacked, and if between the two one of them would become a superteam, I'd rather it be the Lakers in the West rather than the Sixers in the East, let alone our own division.

I simmed the lottery the other day and Philly got #1 and #4. NOOOOOOOOOO!!!

Not worried. As you know from having been here a while, the simulator hates us even more than the real lottery does. ;)

Mike
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-36, #1 on 1/25)
Post by: clevelandceltic on January 27, 2017, 01:08:52 PM
Here are the things that I think:

1. I think Philly will end up in the 9th or 10th spot based on Embiid and their current confidence.
2. At 16 wins, the Lakers still have just as much a chance to finish in the 6th spot as they do the 2nd spot despite their current level of play.
3. I would much rather see the Lakers lose their 17 and 19 picks than worry about giving the 17  pick to the Sixers.
4. After rewatching some of the prospects in the 18 draft, I think the top 2 players have higher upsides than players in the 17 draft.
5. Outside of the top 6 minus whatever Giles turns into, Im not worried about Philly or anyone else getting a star player. Could they? Yes but I dont see players than Im willing to bank on being stars.
6. I dont see how this pick isnt top 4 based on how far ahead teams are from Brooklyn.

Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-36, #1 on 1/25)
Post by: Ilikesports17 on January 27, 2017, 01:12:05 PM
Here are the things that I think:

1. I think Philly will end up in the 9th or 10th spot based on Embiid and their current confidence.
2. At 16 wins, the Lakers still have just as much a chance to finish in the 6th spot as they do the 2nd spot despite their current level of play.
3. I would much rather see the Lakers lose their 17 and 19 picks than worry about giving the 17  pick to the Sixers.
4. After rewatching some of the prospects in the 18 draft, I think the top 2 players have higher upsides than players in the 17 draft.
5. Outside of the top 6 minus whatever Giles turns into, Im not worried about Philly or anyone else getting a star player. Could they? Yes but I dont see players than Im willing to bank on being stars.
6. I dont see how this pick isnt top 4 based on how far ahead teams are from Brooklyn.
Whos that? Ayton and Doncic?
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-36, #1 on 1/25)
Post by: nickagneta on January 27, 2017, 02:01:30 PM
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4. After rewatching some of the prospects in the 18 draft, I think the top 2 players have higher upsides than players in the 17 draft.

I see this said every year:

We have to get Wiggins...nah...Towns and Okafor are better we will get one of them next year.
We have to get Towns or Okafor...nah...Simmons and Ingram are better we will get one of them next year.
We have to get Simmons or Ingram...nah...Fultz and Ball are better we will get them next year.
We have to get Ball or Fultz...nah...two guys coming out next year are better.

And people wonder why I don't pay any attention to scouting 17 and 18 year olds
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-36, #1 on 1/25)
Post by: clevelandceltic on January 27, 2017, 02:08:29 PM
Here are the things that I think:

1. I think Philly will end up in the 9th or 10th spot based on Embiid and their current confidence.
2. At 16 wins, the Lakers still have just as much a chance to finish in the 6th spot as they do the 2nd spot despite their current level of play.
3. I would much rather see the Lakers lose their 17 and 19 picks than worry about giving the 17  pick to the Sixers.
4. After rewatching some of the prospects in the 18 draft, I think the top 2 players have higher upsides than players in the 17 draft.
5. Outside of the top 6 minus whatever Giles turns into, Im not worried about Philly or anyone else getting a star player. Could they? Yes but I dont see players than Im willing to bank on being stars.
6. I dont see how this pick isnt top 4 based on how far ahead teams are from Brooklyn.
Whos that? Ayton and Doncic?

I have not seen enough of Doncic to say that he is better than the prospects this year. I was referring to Michael Porter Jr. and Ayton whom I think if engaged and aggressive are higher upside prospects than prospects at the top of this draft. Now I will say this. If Ayton floats like I have seen him in 4 of the 5 games I have seen and if Porter isnt aggressive then these are moot points.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-36, #1 on 1/25)
Post by: celticsclay on January 27, 2017, 02:17:58 PM

The Sixers core frightens me more than LAs does. Id rather see the Lakers get a top 3 pick then see Philly get a 3-6 range pick.[/b]

Pretty much this. The Sixers have a nice core of big guys right now, but they're absolutely empty on decent, rotation-level guards. You add someone like a Smith to that group, and they could be dangerous down the line.

The Lakers are much less stacked, and if between the two one of them would become a superteam, I'd rather it be the Lakers in the West rather than the Sixers in the East, let alone our own division.

I simmed the lottery the other day and Philly got #1 and #4. NOOOOOOOOOO!!!

That is their dream scenario. Here is their latest article on it.

http://www.libertyballers.com/2017/1/27/14395344/land-the-picks-bryan-kings-lakers-are-unpredictable-demarcus-cousins-rudy-gay-russell-clarkson

(A lot of their fans seem resigned to only getting one mid to late round pick)
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-36, #1 on 1/25)
Post by: clevelandceltic on January 27, 2017, 02:35:36 PM
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4. After rewatching some of the prospects in the 18 draft, I think the top 2 players have higher upsides than players in the 17 draft.

I see this said every year:

We have to get Wiggins...nah...Towns and Okafor are better we will get one of them next year.
We have to get Towns or Okafor...nah...Simmons and Ingram are better we will get one of them next year.
We have to get Simmons or Ingram...nah...Fultz and Ball are better we will get them next year.
We have to get Ball or Fultz...nah...two guys coming out next year are better.

And people wonder why I don't pay any attention to scouting 17 and 18 year olds

Well let me be clear. Im not a part of that crowd. Im not even saying that the Cs need to get any player in either draft. I actually wasnt even referring to the Cs when I mentioned the 18 players I was more looking at the fact that the Lakers pick to Philly has no protection next year. It was also an observation about the players next year.

I dont make claims about players that I havent seen. As recently as 3 weeks ago I would have sold that 18 for a player in a heartbeat because I didnt like that in the 4 or 5 times I had seen Ayton play he coasted most of the game. Porter wasnt on my radar but Bamba was whom I like but dont love. After seeing Ayton actually engaged I would put his ceiling higher than  any player in this draft.

You say you dont watch 17 and 18 year olds well thats where you have to begin to form a basis for some of these players because they run into all types of issues in college. FOr instance most are shocked at Towns ability to shoot because he didnt show that in college, well he showed that in the 2 Hoop Summits he played in.

Looking over that list, the guy I said (I didnt post on here at that time) the team must get was Embiid. I liked Towns as a junior more than I liked Wiggins going into college.

I would never say that I am always right but unlike most I pay very little attention to numbers and alot of attention on various skills a guy might have hence why I liked and continue to like Brown more than Ingram which was and is still contrary to popular belief.

Lastly, if you want a frame of reference as to why I think the top 2 next year have more upside than this years top 2 (Fultz whom I love and Tatum whom I really like) go to the espn app and watch Nathan Hale's Michael Porter play and then watch a Tatum game from HS and you will see scoring is much easier for Porter while being a more explosive athlete.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-36, #1 on 1/25)
Post by: RockinRyA on January 27, 2017, 03:13:15 PM
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4. After rewatching some of the prospects in the 18 draft, I think the top 2 players have higher upsides than players in the 17 draft.

I see this said every year:

We have to get Wiggins...nah...Towns and Okafor are better we will get one of them next year.
We have to get Towns or Okafor...nah...Simmons and Ingram are better we will get one of them next year.
We have to get Simmons or Ingram...nah...Fultz and Ball are better we will get them next year.
We have to get Ball or Fultz...nah...two guys coming out next year are better.

And people wonder why I don't pay any attention to scouting 17 and 18 year olds

Towns and Okafor were more enticing than Wiggins because they were both Bigs and Embiid was injured. There's also not much people who are saying they preferred Simmons and Ingram over Towns. SImmons and Ingram was actually preferred by a lot last year than Ball and Fultz because both are guards and we have a ton of those.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-36, #1 on 1/25)
Post by: celticsclay on January 27, 2017, 03:26:11 PM
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4. After rewatching some of the prospects in the 18 draft, I think the top 2 players have higher upsides than players in the 17 draft.

I see this said every year:

We have to get Wiggins...nah...Towns and Okafor are better we will get one of them next year.
We have to get Towns or Okafor...nah...Simmons and Ingram are better we will get one of them next year.
We have to get Simmons or Ingram...nah...Fultz and Ball are better we will get them next year.
We have to get Ball or Fultz...nah...two guys coming out next year are better.

And people wonder why I don't pay any attention to scouting 17 and 18 year olds

Towns and Okafor were more enticing than Wiggins because they were both Bigs and Embiid was injured. There's also not much people who are saying they preferred Simmons and Ingram over Towns. SImmons and Ingram was actually preferred by a lot last year than Ball and Fultz because both are guards and we have a ton of those.

There is definitely a tendency in our society at the moment to really rush towards the next "great thing." This can be seen in articles appearing every year with the headlines like "why next years draft will be absolutely loaded." There is a rush to declare young rookies superstars after a handful of games. A rush to call a team, like the warriors, a clear dynasty, after winning one championship. Just in the past few weeks we have had a rush to call the 76ers a future juggernaut and clear playoff team because they put together 3 weeks of good play.

It wasn't that long ago the Timberwolves were being called extremely loaded. This year it is completely unclear what they have with Dieng, Lavine, Towns and Wiggins.

Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-36, #1 on 1/25)
Post by: clevelandceltic on January 27, 2017, 03:42:44 PM
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4. After rewatching some of the prospects in the 18 draft, I think the top 2 players have higher upsides than players in the 17 draft.

I see this said every year:

We have to get Wiggins...nah...Towns and Okafor are better we will get one of them next year.
We have to get Towns or Okafor...nah...Simmons and Ingram are better we will get one of them next year.
We have to get Simmons or Ingram...nah...Fultz and Ball are better we will get them next year.
We have to get Ball or Fultz...nah...two guys coming out next year are better.

And people wonder why I don't pay any attention to scouting 17 and 18 year olds

Towns and Okafor were more enticing than Wiggins because they were both Bigs and Embiid was injured. There's also not much people who are saying they preferred Simmons and Ingram over Towns. SImmons and Ingram was actually preferred by a lot last year than Ball and Fultz because both are guards and we have a ton of those.


From my seat I would disagree with this. When I watched all three, I had Embiid about 2 notces above Towns as a prospect and about 10 above Okafor. Okafor was not even in the same league as those other two for me. Towns just brought so much to the table even as a HS junior than Okafor that I was really surprised people said Okafor would be the top pick going into the year. I think Towns deal was he played alot of face up as a HS player but Del Harris tried to get him to be a back to the basket guy when he played on the DR national team. Who knows.

If I had to rank players from 2014 - 18 on what I have seen before they became pros I would rank them as follows:
1. Embiid
2. Towns
3. Simmons
4. Ayton
5. Wiggins
6. Porter
7. Fultz
8. Parker
9. Brown

After this spot it becomes foggy. I think you could juggle 5 - 9 but for my eyes the top 4 are pretty static.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-36, #1 on 1/25)
Post by: hwangjini_1 on January 27, 2017, 03:48:32 PM
no doncic? not sure how you compiled this list. please provide the methodology and stats.

thanks.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-36, #1 on 1/25)
Post by: saltlover on January 27, 2017, 03:53:04 PM
no doncic? not sure how you compiled this list. please provide the methodology and stats.

thanks.

He hasn't watched Doncic, and thus has a major gap.  (Not being snarky, cleveland, I just think I remember you saying that to me a day or two ago.)
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-36, #1 on 1/25)
Post by: clevelandceltic on January 27, 2017, 03:56:04 PM
no doncic? not sure how you compiled this list. please provide the methodology and stats.

thanks.

Its based on players I have seen play not stats or based on outside scouting reports. I havent seen Doncic enough to place him anywhere on a prospects list.

I can share what I thought of those players prior to being in the NBA if that helps. Also I need to change that 9 spot to Tatum and make 10 Brown
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-36, #1 on 1/25)
Post by: clevelandceltic on January 27, 2017, 04:00:16 PM
no doncic? not sure how you compiled this list. please provide the methodology and stats.

thanks.

He hasn't watched Doncic, and thus has a major gap.  (Not being snarky, cleveland, I just think I remember you saying that to me a day or two ago.)

That is absolutely correct. I have not seen enough of him to make a definitive statement on him. I have seen very small pieces of action on Doncic. From all reports he is as good as Ayton and Porter but I havent seen it so I try not to make definitive statements.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-36, #1 on 1/25)
Post by: hwangjini_1 on January 27, 2017, 04:01:47 PM
no doncic? not sure how you compiled this list. please provide the methodology and stats.

thanks.

He hasn't watched Doncic, and thus has a major gap.  (Not being snarky, cleveland, I just think I remember you saying that to me a day or two ago.)

That is absolutely correct. I have not seen enough of him to make a definitive statement on him. I have seen very small pieces of action on Doncic. From all reports he is as good as Ayton and Porter but I havent seen it so I try not to make definitive statements.
fair enough. thanks for the response and a tp for you.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-36, #1 on 1/25)
Post by: clevelandceltic on January 27, 2017, 04:03:54 PM
I guess I should qualify my list as to not confuse people. These are the prospects that I have seen on multiple levels and in multiple competitions before they arrived in the NBA. I cant speak to a guy like Duval who I have only seen once and Wendell Carter whom I have seen twice or Doncic who I have only seen snippets of.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-36, #1 on 1/25)
Post by: mef730 on January 27, 2017, 07:31:42 PM
BKN resting or without everyone tonight. Looking forward to the Cavs breaking their streak.

I was hoping that they would play Lopez and rest him tomorrow against Minnesota.

Mike
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-36, #1 on 1/25)
Post by: The One on January 27, 2017, 07:36:56 PM
I hope Cleveland wins tonight and breaks their spirit for the rest of the season.


Was that too harsh?
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-36, #1 on 1/25)
Post by: Phantom255x on January 27, 2017, 07:39:54 PM
If the Cavaliers somehow lose this, then man, Lebron is going to throw a HUGE tantrum and probably trade guys left and right lol.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-36, #1 on 1/25)
Post by: mef730 on January 27, 2017, 07:40:52 PM
I hope Cleveland wins tonight and breaks their spirit for the rest of the season.


Was that too harsh?

No, not harsh enough. The correct answer is, "I hope Cleveland wins tonight and breaks their spirit for the rest of the season, as well as all of next season."

But a TP for close enough. ;)

Mike
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-36, #1 on 1/25)
Post by: csfansince60s on January 27, 2017, 08:23:04 PM
If the Cavaliers somehow lose this, then man, Lebron is going to throw a HUGE tantrum and probably trade guys left and right lol.

TP.... that would be entertaining!
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-36, #1 on 1/25)
Post by: Phantom255x on January 27, 2017, 09:18:23 PM
If the Cavaliers somehow lose this, then man, Lebron is going to throw a HUGE tantrum and probably trade guys left and right lol.

TP.... that would be entertaining!

LOL, but Cavaliers up 20 so business as usual.

That being said.. they actually haven't played great today, but it's the Nets so..
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-36, #1 on 1/25)
Post by: jpotter33 on January 27, 2017, 10:03:28 PM
Miraculously, the Heat are about to finish off a 6 game winning streak against the Bulls tonight.

Apparently my earlier worries of the Heat catching the Nets was a little premature  :o
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-36, #1 on 1/25)
Post by: clevelandceltic on January 27, 2017, 10:19:45 PM
Salt

I watched many of the min Doncic played against the Thunder earlier this year. Very nice player but in no way do I see generational. I need to see much more but mayeb you can enlighten me more on what you have seen.

Also for those that are interested in what I was talking about with the 18 class and MIchael Porter dvr his game tonight on ESPN U at 11pm est.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-36, #1 on 1/25)
Post by: RAAAAAAAANDY on January 28, 2017, 02:00:15 PM
Miraculously, the Heat are about to finish off a 6 game winning streak against the Bulls tonight.

Apparently my earlier worries of the Heat catching the Nets was a little premature  :o

Riley can't be happy about this.

He needs to get Dragic out of there ASAP.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-36, #1 on 1/25)
Post by: jpotter33 on January 28, 2017, 02:40:58 PM
Miraculously, the Heat are about to finish off a 6 game winning streak against the Bulls tonight.

Apparently my earlier worries of the Heat catching the Nets was a little premature  :o

Riley can't be happy about this.

He needs to get Dragic out of there ASAP.

That was supposedly the plan like a month ago, yet nothing has happened yet. He's still probably waiting to take advantage of a desperate franchise like Sacramento wanting to make the playoffs, which would just be so Vlade and Vivek to do.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-36, #1 on 1/25)
Post by: SCeltic34 on January 28, 2017, 03:29:16 PM
I'm not completely ready to write Brooklyn off as a lock for the worst team in the league, as crazy as that sounds given how bad they've been.  Mainly because there's still lots of season left, and other bottom dwelling teams can make pro-tank moves.  It's very likely though.  It's impossible to ask for anything better than what has transpired so far.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-36, #1 on 1/25)
Post by: mef730 on January 28, 2017, 06:24:35 PM
I'm not completely ready to write Brooklyn off as a lock for the worst team in the league, as crazy as that sounds given how bad they've been.  Mainly because there's still lots of season left, and other bottom dwelling teams can make pro-tank moves.  It's very likely though.  It's impossible to ask for anything better than what has transpired so far.

I've been trying not to get too excited, as well, but I've run the numbers every which way and find it very, very difficult for Brooklyn to make up five games in 36. Their schedule is about the same difficultly level as the Lakers' and Suns', their only two real remaining competitors. Either of those two could tank, but it would not only involve a big trade or injury but also require that the Nets stay healthy and don't trade Brook Lopez.

If we want to worry about anything, something that many of us excel at, it should be about ping pong balls. But that's the next step. :)

Mike
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-36, #1 on 1/25)
Post by: rondofan1255 on January 28, 2017, 06:37:12 PM
If we want to worry about anything, something that many of us excel at, it should be about ping pong balls. But that's the next step. :)

Mike

Yeah, the Nets are likely to maximize lottery odds for a Top 3 pick and net at worst a #4 pick. Once the season ends, it all comes down to the lottery which is out of the Brooklyn C's control. I don't think the season could have gone any better for the pick. Last year was more stressful.

I'm not completely ready to write Brooklyn off as a lock for the worst team in the league, as crazy as that sounds given how bad they've been.

If Brook Lopez is traded at the deadline for filler and picks, I'll be ready.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-36, #1 on 1/25)
Post by: chambers on January 28, 2017, 11:32:23 PM
Heat beat the Pistons
Wolves destroy the Nets.

Everything's coming up Millhouse :)
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-36, #1 on 1/25)
Post by: greece66 on January 29, 2017, 06:42:22 AM
Heat beat the Pistons
Wolves destroy the Nets.

Everything's coming up Millhouse :)

wonderful news indeed. TP.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-37, #1 on 1/27)
Post by: SHAQATTACK on January 29, 2017, 08:29:17 AM
Trade Young and Zeller for Lopez. 
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-36, #1 on 1/25)
Post by: bopna on January 29, 2017, 09:10:46 AM
I'm not completely ready to write Brooklyn off as a lock for the worst team in the league, as crazy as that sounds given how bad they've been.  Mainly because there's still lots of season left, and other bottom dwelling teams can make pro-tank moves.  It's very likely though.  It's impossible to ask for anything better than what has transpired so far.

They are a lock for the top 3 worst...even if they get worst you'd have to rely on the lottery...which by my calculations is never a sure bet to lock number one so it ain't rocket science that even 5 to 6 worst record almost always sneek into the top 3.

Lets just not worry about what the Nets are doin because they are what they are...lets not forget 2007 and 1997...both worst or near worst record yet we moved down on draft night.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-37, #1 on 1/27)
Post by: The One on January 29, 2017, 10:01:21 AM
At least Josh Jackson and Jonathan Isaac are balling...so the Celtics could pick one of them after Fultz and Ball are off the board...either one of those guys could be the best player in this draft.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-37, #1 on 1/27)
Post by: adam8 on January 29, 2017, 11:13:52 AM
Pretty amazing that Miami went from just three games up in the win column to not even a threat anymore. I find it pretty amazing that at this moment the heat have the longest winning streak in the NBA and it is by a significant amount, they have won 7 in a row next longest in the entire league is 3 in a row.

If Phoenix and the lakers could just have one good week we might not even need to check up on this anymore.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-37, #1 on 1/27)
Post by: Bostoncelticsforlife7 on January 29, 2017, 02:01:52 PM
Pretty amazing that Miami went from just three games up in the win column to not even a threat anymore. I find it pretty amazing that at this moment the heat have the longest winning streak in the NBA and it is by a significant amount, they have won 7 in a row next longest in the entire league is 3 in a row.

If Phoenix and the lakers could just have one good week we might not even need to check up on this anymore.
I stopped checking up on the standings about a month ago
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-37, #1 on 1/27)
Post by: mef730 on January 30, 2017, 11:18:44 AM
Looks like we're entering a choppy stretch before the All-Star break. This week is soft: At Miami, home against the Knicks and then home against Indy. Miami favored by nine tonight, but that may be the toughest of the three games.

Versus the Knicks on Wednesday, who will be on the 2nd night of a back-to-back. Let's hope that they don't decide to rest Melo against the Nets. That game makes me nervous.

Home against Indy on Friday. Indy is on the first night of a b-t-b, so we again run into potential rest issues.

I don't expect BKN to come out of this three game stretch with more than one win, and I'd almost be ready to call it game over if they don't win any.

Five games after that in nine days. @CLT, then four at home vs. Washington, Miami, Memphis and Milwaukee. They may go winless in that run.

After the break, we've got a seven game road trip. Hee hee.

Mike
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-37, #1 on 1/27)
Post by: saltlover on January 30, 2017, 11:23:20 AM
Looks like we're entering a choppy stretch before the All-Star break. This week is soft: At Miami, home against the Nets and then home against Indy. Miami favored by nine tonight, but that may be the toughest of the three games.

Versus the Knicks on Wednesday, who will be on the 2nd night of a back-to-back. Let's hope that they don't decide to rest Melo against the Nets. That game makes me nervous.

Home against Indy on Friday. Indy is on the first night of a b-t-b, so we again run into potential rest issues.

I don't expect BKN to come out of this three game stretch with more than one win, and I'd almost be ready to call it game over if they don't win any.

Five games after that in nine days. @CLT, then four at home vs. Washington, Miami, Memphis and Milwaukee. They may go winless in that run.

After the break, we've got a seven game road trip. Hee hee.

Mike

I don't know -- I think the Nets can figure out how to lose to themselves.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-37, #1 on 1/27)
Post by: mef730 on January 30, 2017, 11:47:07 AM
Looks like we're entering a choppy stretch before the All-Star break. This week is soft: At Miami, home against the Nets and then home against Indy. Miami favored by nine tonight, but that may be the toughest of the three games.

Versus the Knicks on Wednesday, who will be on the 2nd night of a back-to-back. Let's hope that they don't decide to rest Melo against the Nets. That game makes me nervous.

Home against Indy on Friday. Indy is on the first night of a b-t-b, so we again run into potential rest issues.

I don't expect BKN to come out of this three game stretch with more than one win, and I'd almost be ready to call it game over if they don't win any.

Five games after that in nine days. @CLT, then four at home vs. Washington, Miami, Memphis and Milwaukee. They may go winless in that run.

After the break, we've got a seven game road trip. Hee hee.

Mike

I don't know -- I think the Nets can figure out how to lose to themselves.

Oops, TP.

But if they lose to themselves, isn't that also a win?

Mike
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-37, #1 on 1/27)
Post by: MattyIce on January 30, 2017, 11:54:40 AM
Looks like we're entering a choppy stretch before the All-Star break. This week is soft: At Miami, home against the Nets and then home against Indy. Miami favored by nine tonight, but that may be the toughest of the three games.

Versus the Knicks on Wednesday, who will be on the 2nd night of a back-to-back.
Let's hope that they don't decide to rest Melo against the Nets.
That game makes me nervous.[/glow]

Home against Indy on Friday. Indy is on the first night of a b-t-b, so we again run into potential rest issues.

I don't expect BKN to come out of this three game stretch with more than one win, and I'd almost be ready to call it game over if they don't win any.

Five games after that in nine days. @CLT, then four at home vs. Washington, Miami, Memphis and Milwaukee. They may go winless in that run.

After the break, we've got a seven game road trip. Hee hee.

Mike

I don't know -- I think the Nets can figure out how to lose to themselves.

If i'm Ainge this is when i act like i'm contemplating shipping out the nets pick.....knowing I would never
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-37, #1 on 1/27)
Post by: aingeforthree on January 30, 2017, 12:09:40 PM
At least Josh Jackson and Jonathan Isaac are balling...so the Celtics could pick one of them after Fultz and Ball are off the board...either one of those guys could be the best player in this draft.

It's straight stacked. IMO, Fultz or Jackson will be a Celtic if no trade is made.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-37, #1 on 1/27)
Post by: trickybilly on January 30, 2017, 09:15:30 PM
The Bedford-Stuyvesant Celtics doing their thing again.

Seems like the Heat can't lose lately..

Is it possible they are a buyer at the deadline??
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-37, #1 on 1/27)
Post by: Adelaide Celt on January 30, 2017, 10:57:46 PM
Miami's 8 game winning streak has Pat Riley attempting to tear out his hair.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-37, #1 on 1/27)
Post by: mef730 on January 31, 2017, 08:45:01 AM
Miami's 8 game winning streak has Pat Riley attempting to tear out his hair.

That's the beauty to tanking. A GM can try and tank all they want, but the players and coach refuse to buy in.

Mike
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-37, #1 on 1/27)
Post by: A Future of Stevens on January 31, 2017, 08:48:24 AM
Miami's 8 game winning streak has Pat Riley attempting to tear out his hair.

That's the beauty to tanking. A GM can try and tank all they want, but the players and coach refuse to buy in.

Mike

That's why the Nets went full Billy King. You never go full Billy King. Never.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-37, #1 on 1/27)
Post by: mef730 on January 31, 2017, 02:33:09 PM
Miami's 8 game winning streak has Pat Riley attempting to tear out his hair.

That's the beauty to tanking. A GM can try and tank all they want, but the players and coach refuse to buy in.

Mike

That's why the Nets went full Billy King. You never go full Billy King. Never.

I've never met Billy King. I've never spoken to Billy King. I wouldn't know who he was if I saw him walking down the street.

But I'm pretty sure that I love Billy King.

Mike
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-37, #1 on 1/27)
Post by: CelticGuardian on January 31, 2017, 02:35:54 PM
Miami's 8 game winning streak has Pat Riley attempting to tear out his hair.

That's the beauty to tanking. A GM can try and tank all they want, but the players and coach refuse to buy in.

Mike

That's why the Nets went full Billy King. You never go full Billy King. Never.

I've never met Billy King. I've never spoken to Billy King. I wouldn't know who he was if I saw him walking down the street.

But I'm pretty sure that I love Billy King.

Mike

I'd buy him a Sam Adams and invite him over to see the masterpiece he created on CSNNE.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-37, #1 on 1/27)
Post by: A Future of Stevens on January 31, 2017, 02:41:11 PM
Miami's 8 game winning streak has Pat Riley attempting to tear out his hair.

That's the beauty to tanking. A GM can try and tank all they want, but the players and coach refuse to buy in.

Mike

That's why the Nets went full Billy King. You never go full Billy King. Never.

I've never met Billy King. I've never spoken to Billy King. I wouldn't know who he was if I saw him walking down the street.

But I'm pretty sure that I love Billy King.

Mike

I'd buy him a Sam Adams and invite him over to see the masterpiece he created on CSNNE.

If everything keeps falling into place, I say we retire a jersey with his name on it.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-39, #1 on 1/30)
Post by: mef730 on February 01, 2017, 08:46:11 AM
They did it! Nobody believed in them, but the Lakers pulled a win!

I'm picturing that scene from Rocky IV, when Rocky cut Ivan Drago, and Duke grabbed him in the corner, screaming, "You see Rocky, he's not a machine!! He's a man! You want it more than he does! No pain!"

You see Phoenix, you can do it!

This game against the Knicks tonight does worry me, though. 2nd half of a BtB, Porzingis possibly out.

Mike

Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-39, #1 on 1/30)
Post by: Phantom255x on February 01, 2017, 09:41:45 PM
Melo gets benched in the 3rd..

Knicks take a 6 point lead on BKN. 2 minutes left in the 4th.   ;D
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-39, #1 on 1/30)
Post by: positivitize on February 01, 2017, 10:36:07 PM
Nets lose again.

=D   
=D
=D
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-39, #1 on 1/30)
Post by: celticsclay on February 01, 2017, 10:42:04 PM
Nets lose again.

=D   
=D
=D

This is pretty ridiculous
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-39, #1 on 1/30)
Post by: Ogaju on February 01, 2017, 10:45:45 PM
Nets lose again.

=D   
=D
=D

You mean Celtics win again.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-40, #1 on 2/1)
Post by: Ogaju on February 01, 2017, 10:47:21 PM
Maybe we should have the Nets make attend the draft lottery for us. It is the least we can do at least have them attend the party even if they don't get to eat. lol.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-39, #1 on 1/30)
Post by: knuckleballer on February 01, 2017, 10:48:24 PM
Nets lose again.

=D   
=D
=D

This is pretty ridiculous

Yes and it's pretty awesome!  We are watch a competitive team get better while adding elite prospects just a few years after starting over.  That's great.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-40, #1 on 2/1)
Post by: RockinRyA on February 01, 2017, 10:56:40 PM
What a glorious day!

Celtics win
Raptors lose
Nets win
Hawks lose
Heat win
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-40, #1 on 2/1)
Post by: saltlover on February 01, 2017, 10:57:16 PM
What a glorious day!

Celtics win
Raptors lose
Nets win lose
Hawks lose
Heat win

Corrected.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-40, #1 on 2/1)
Post by: RockinRyA on February 01, 2017, 11:02:14 PM
What a glorious day!

Celtics win
Raptors lose
Nets win lose
Hawks lose
Heat win

Corrected.

sorry lol was too pumped up to notice. a Nets loss is always a win though
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-40, #1 on 2/1)
Post by: The One on February 02, 2017, 01:05:00 PM
The Nets now have a 98.8% percent chance of having the worst record this year!!!



http://www.basketball-reference.com/friv/proj_draft.html
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-40, #1 on 2/1)
Post by: libermaniac on February 02, 2017, 01:43:37 PM
What a glorious day!

Celtics win
Raptors lose
Nets win
Hawks lose
Heat win

So, not sure if you've noticed, but the Heat now have 20 wins.  This list is a bit outdated.  ;)

Only one last team to worry about getting surpassed by the Nets - The Suns.  And they have a 6 win lead.  But, just to keep this thread going, we have to focus on the Suns.

Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-40, #1 on 2/1)
Post by: GreenShooter on February 02, 2017, 02:08:00 PM
The Nets now have a 98.8% percent chance of having the worst record this year!!!



http://www.basketball-reference.com/friv/proj_draft.html
I actually said it was 99% about a week ago but I'll take their word for it :)

Edit: Oops, just double checked that post. I said 90% and 100% they'll finish with a top 3 worst record. I meant 99% haha.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-39, #1 on 1/30)
Post by: mef730 on February 02, 2017, 03:34:48 PM
Nets lose again.

=D   
=D
=D

That game was awful. It was like both teams were trying to lose. I guess the Nets just wanted it more.

Mike
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-39, #1 on 1/30)
Post by: GreenShooter on February 02, 2017, 04:28:59 PM
Nets lose again.

=D   
=D
=D

That game was awful. It was like both teams were trying to lose. I guess the Nets just wanted it more.

Mike
You actually admit to watching the Nets play? God bless (more like help) you!
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-39, #1 on 1/30)
Post by: mef730 on February 02, 2017, 08:13:44 PM
Nets lose again.

=D   
=D
=D

That game was awful. It was like both teams were trying to lose. I guess the Nets just wanted it more.

Mike
You actually admit to watching the Nets play? God bless (more like help) you!

Hee hee

Well, "play" is a relative term...

Mike
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-39, #1 on 1/30)
Post by: Ilikesports17 on February 02, 2017, 08:18:52 PM
Nets lose again.

=D   
=D
=D

That game was awful. It was like both teams were trying to lose. I guess the Nets just wanted it more.

Mike
You actually admit to watching the Nets play? God bless (more like help) you!
Its actually kinda fun to be able to be really invested in rooting for some players you usually look at as either the enemy or just another guy.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-40, #1 on 2/1)
Post by: SHAQATTACK on February 02, 2017, 08:22:03 PM
Every time the Nets drop another game

A dagger is driven though the hearts of Lakers fans.


Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-40, #1 on 2/1)
Post by: csfansince60s on February 02, 2017, 09:15:19 PM
Hopefully Nets find a taker for Lopez before the deadline.

Then the nets could challenge the Red Claws. ;D

Who might want him?





Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-40, #1 on 2/1)
Post by: jdz101 on February 02, 2017, 09:22:32 PM
The most important thing is the lotto luck at this point.

Noone run over any black cats.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-40, #1 on 2/1)
Post by: Ogaju on February 02, 2017, 10:41:56 PM
What a glorious day!

Celtics win
Raptors lose
Nets win lose
Hawks lose
Heat win

Corrected.

sorry lol was too pumped up to notice. a Nets loss is always a win though

This.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-40, #1 on 2/1)
Post by: nickagneta on February 03, 2017, 12:18:21 AM
Don't think it matters if the Nets trade Lopez or not. With him on the team they are on a pace to win 16 games which means the Suns would have to lose every single game the rest of the year in order to overtake the Nets as worst team. With or without Lopez, the Nets are the worst team in the league and it really isn't close..

My only worry is ping pong balls. Has been all year. Has been ever since the Duncan draft lottery.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-40, #1 on 2/1)
Post by: jdz101 on February 03, 2017, 12:53:00 AM
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Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-40, #1 on 2/1)
Post by: Somebody on February 03, 2017, 12:59:41 AM
Don't think it matters if the Nets trade Lopez or not. With him on the team they are on a pace to win 16 games which means the Suns would have to lose every single game the rest of the year in order to overtake the Nets as worst team. With or without Lopez, the Nets are the worst team in the league and it really isn't close..

My only worry is ping pong balls. Has been all year. Has been ever since the Duncan draft lottery.
This. Great post. I won't be surprised if the nba screws us again and gives us the 4th pick
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-40, #1 on 2/1)
Post by: chambers on February 03, 2017, 02:46:28 AM
But they were a playoff team 5 years ago?
And they've been ravaged by injuries...
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-40, #1 on 2/1)
Post by: mef730 on February 03, 2017, 08:31:22 AM
But they were a playoff team 5 years ago?
And they've been ravaged by injuries...

:D

I will say, not having Jeremy Lin does hurt them but, even with him, they're still scraping along the bottom. I've gotta think that, if they look like this, Lopez and Lin get the month of April off. Well, at least Lopez.

33 games to go, six games back, and they just finished a streak of "easy" games, with losses to Minnesota and Miami. Including tonight, six of their next seven are at home, but they've got Indy (who looks good all of a sudden), Toronto (feels weird to be rooting for them; maybe I won't), @CLT (who knows), Washington (who looks like they may never lose again) and Milwaukee (back to "who knows"). March starts off with a six game road trip out west. Start rooting for ping pong balls. And don't forget, it actually worked in our favor last year: Our most likely draft spot was fifth.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NBA_draft_lottery

My only advice is to stay away from the simulators. They hate us and you don't want to get too depressed.

Mike
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-40, #1 on 2/1)
Post by: Darío SpanishFan on February 03, 2017, 08:46:28 AM
I got the nº 1 pick for us every time I've used a simulator. I promise I won't do it again until the lottery to keep the good flavour  :-X
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-40, #1 on 2/1)
Post by: nickagneta on February 03, 2017, 10:31:36 AM
But they were a playoff team 5 years ago?
And they've been ravaged by injuries...

:D

I will say, not having Jeremy Lin does hurt them but, even with him, they're still scraping along the bottom. I've gotta think that, if they look like this, Lopez and Lin get the month of April off. Well, at least Lopez.

39 games to go, six games back, and they just finished a streak of "easy" games, with losses to Minnesota and Miami. Including tonight, six of their next seven are at home, but they've got Indy (who looks good all of a sudden), Toronto (feels weird to be rooting for them; maybe I won't), @CLT (who knows), Washington (who looks like they may never lose again) and Milwaukee (back to "who knows"). March starts off with a six game road trip out west. Start rooting for ping pong balls. And don't forget, it actually worked in our favor last year: Our most likely draft spot was fifth.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NBA_draft_lottery

My only advice is to stay away from the simulators. They hate us and you don't want to get too depressed.

Mike
Your math is off. The Nets only have 33 games left
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-40, #1 on 2/1)
Post by: A Future of Stevens on February 03, 2017, 10:43:07 AM
I got the nº 1 pick for us every time I've used a simulator. I promise I won't do it again until the lottery to keep the good flavour  :-X

TP Dario. I did the same thing. 3x in a row about a week and a half ago. I shut down my computer, and have pledged not to go on a simulator until the lotto. Gotta keep this luck up.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-40, #1 on 2/1)
Post by: mef730 on February 03, 2017, 01:00:16 PM
But they were a playoff team 5 years ago?
And they've been ravaged by injuries...

:D

I will say, not having Jeremy Lin does hurt them but, even with him, they're still scraping along the bottom. I've gotta think that, if they look like this, Lopez and Lin get the month of April off. Well, at least Lopez.

39 games to go, six games back, and they just finished a streak of "easy" games, with losses to Minnesota and Miami. Including tonight, six of their next seven are at home, but they've got Indy (who looks good all of a sudden), Toronto (feels weird to be rooting for them; maybe I won't), @CLT (who knows), Washington (who looks like they may never lose again) and Milwaukee (back to "who knows"). March starts off with a six game road trip out west. Start rooting for ping pong balls. And don't forget, it actually worked in our favor last year: Our most likely draft spot was fifth.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NBA_draft_lottery

My only advice is to stay away from the simulators. They hate us and you don't want to get too depressed.

Mike
Your math is off. The Nets only have 33 games left

TP. Combined it with the 49 that they've already played.

Mike
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-40, #1 on 2/1)
Post by: chambers on February 03, 2017, 09:59:28 PM
Nets came back from 12 points down vs the Pacers....

But thankfully, the Pacers still won :)

Orlando wins too.

BOOM.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-40, #1 on 2/1)
Post by: fantankerous on February 03, 2017, 10:05:46 PM
I got the nº 1 pick for us every time I've used a simulator. I promise I won't do it again until the lottery to keep the good flavour  :-X

TP Dario. I did the same thing. 3x in a row about a week and a half ago. I shut down my computer, and have pledged not to go on a simulator until the lotto. Gotta keep this luck up.

Edited.  Profanity and masked profanity are against forum rules and may result in discipline. mysticism.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-40, #1 on 2/1)
Post by: Phantom255x on February 03, 2017, 10:08:16 PM
With all the effort we've put in.. we better get #1 this summer  :)
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-40, #1 on 2/1)
Post by: SHAQATTACK on February 03, 2017, 10:08:54 PM
Nets came back from 12 points down vs the Pacers....

But thankfully, the Pacers still won :)

Orlando wins too.

BOOM.

We help the fakers by beating them ...LOL
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-40, #1 on 2/1)
Post by: SCeltic34 on February 03, 2017, 10:32:41 PM
Nets lose.
Raptors lose.
Celtics pass the Lakers for all time wins total.
Stevens will coach the All-Star Game.

Today is a good day.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-40, #1 on 2/1)
Post by: A Future of Stevens on February 03, 2017, 10:34:23 PM
I got the nº 1 pick for us every time I've used a simulator. I promise I won't do it again until the lottery to keep the good flavour  :-X

TP Dario. I did the same thing. 3x in a row about a week and a half ago. I shut down my computer, and have pledged not to go on a simulator until the lotto. Gotta keep this luck up.

**** mysticism.

Its superstition. Logically I know it doesnt matter what so ever, statistics are statistics. But, its a fun way for myself to feel involved, even though I know im not. Kind of like an extreme form of this board or sports in general. Fandom.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-40, #1 on 2/1)
Post by: Ogaju on February 03, 2017, 10:36:38 PM
Nets lose.
Raptors lose.
Celtics pass the Lakers for all time wins total.
Stevens will coach the All-Star Game.

Today is a good day.

That is a trifecta plus 1.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-40, #1 on 2/1)
Post by: Adelaide Celt on February 04, 2017, 12:42:50 AM
Yogi Ferrell, who the Nets waived after he played 10 games this season, had a 22 point first half for Dallas against Portland. Has 29 points in the 4th.  ;D
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-40, #1 on 2/1)
Post by: ImShakHeIsShaq on February 04, 2017, 12:53:27 AM
Yogi Ferrell, who the Nets waived after he played 10 games this season, had a 22 point first half for Dallas against Portland. Has 29 points in the 4th.  ;D

wow 9 made 3s.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-40, #1 on 2/1)
Post by: max215 on February 04, 2017, 01:00:35 AM
Yassss, Devin Booker!!!!
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-40, #1 on 2/1)
Post by: saltlover on February 04, 2017, 01:03:31 AM
Nets now a full seven ahead of Phoenix at 16 wins.  With 32 games to go, it's really difficult to see Brooklyn even get 16 wins by the end of the season.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-40, #1 on 2/1)
Post by: Darío SpanishFan on February 04, 2017, 05:46:37 AM
As A Future of Stevens said, it is a mix of superstition and entertainment (TP, buddy). With the Suns win, the moment when we only have to worry about the ping pong balls is more obvious than ever.

It's hard to think the Nets will reach the 16 wins mark, even more if they try to unload some talent at the deadline or rest them to prevent injuries in April.

Edit: I would appreciate some Tommy Points. Currently, I am Tyler Zeller  ;D
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-40, #1 on 2/1)
Post by: slightly biased bias fan on February 04, 2017, 05:58:25 AM
As A Future of Stevens said, it is a mix of superstition and entertainment (TP, buddy). With the Suns win, the moment when we only have to worry about the ping pong balls is more obvious than ever.

It's hard to think the Nets will reach the 16 wins mark, even more if they try to unload some talent at the deadline or rest them to prevent injuries in April.

Edit: I would appreciate some Tommy Points. Currently, I am Tyler Zeller  ;D

Being Tyler Zeller isn't dependant on how many TP's you have but how many posts you've made, so essentially the more you post the better ranked you become including eventually getting stars.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-40, #1 on 2/1)
Post by: Darío SpanishFan on February 04, 2017, 06:47:55 AM
As A Future of Stevens said, it is a mix of superstition and entertainment (TP, buddy). With the Suns win, the moment when we only have to worry about the ping pong balls is more obvious than ever.

It's hard to think the Nets will reach the 16 wins mark, even more if they try to unload some talent at the deadline or rest them to prevent injuries in April.

Edit: I would appreciate some Tommy Points. Currently, I am Tyler Zeller  ;D

Being Tyler Zeller isn't dependant on how many TP's you have but how many posts you've made, so essentially the more you post the better ranked you become including eventually getting stars.

Oh, I thought it was the other way, dependant on TP. Thanks for the explanation, I'm still getting used to the forums working way. One for you...and I'll write some more posts today  8)
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-40, #1 on 2/1)
Post by: The One on February 04, 2017, 06:53:27 AM
Since this year's worst record is pretty much in the bag...do you think they could save some of these losses for next season?

Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-40, #1 on 2/1)
Post by: Neurotic Guy on February 04, 2017, 06:59:36 AM
Unfortunately, the advantage of most pong-pong balls is hasn't been the most secure advantage in the world.

 The other pessimistic view is that one (or both) of our historically biggest rivals will do very well on lottery night. Philly is back to looking like they have a legit shot at two top 5 picks, or, the Lakers pull out another top 3.  The way I look at things, the surest bet on this earth is that LAL will come away with one of the top 2 picks.  I don't believe in conspiracies or fixes, I do believe in Laker luck.  Sadly, on the miniscule chance that Laker Luck doesn't hold, Philly gets yet another great pick.
 
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-40, #1 on 2/1)
Post by: Granath on February 04, 2017, 08:04:11 AM
Since this year's worst record is pretty much in the bag...do you think they could save some of these losses for next season?

Don't worry. With that roster there will be plenty of those.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-40, #1 on 2/1)
Post by: The One on February 04, 2017, 08:09:08 AM
Since this year's worst record is pretty much in the bag...do you think they could save some of these losses for next season?

Don't worry. With that roster there will be plenty of those.

True...I just fear Lin and Lopez catching fire...wait, what?? ;D
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-40, #1 on 2/1)
Post by: LGC88 on February 04, 2017, 08:16:13 AM
Unfortunately, the advantage of most pong-pong balls is hasn't been the most secure advantage in the world.

 The other pessimistic view is that one (or both) of our historically biggest rivals will do very well on lottery night. Philly is back to looking like they have a legit shot at two top 5 picks, or, the Lakers pull out another top 3.  The way I look at things, the surest bet on this earth is that LAL will come away with one of the top 2 picks.  I don't believe in conspiracies or fixes, I do believe in Laker luck.  Sadly, on the miniscule chance that Laker Luck doesn't hold, Philly gets yet another great pick.

I share your point of view.
I see this Nets pick as a sure thing that we'll get one of Fultz, Ball and Jackson. Any of this 3 players will get me excited. I won't be disappointed if we end up #3. I'll be upset only if we end up #4.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-40, #1 on 2/1)
Post by: PAOBoston on February 04, 2017, 08:26:51 AM
I see this as house money. I'm fine with anything in the top 3 of the draft. Ultimately, lookibg back, you will have acquired 3 possible top 3 picks for the corpses of Pierce/KG. That's so freaking amazing.

The ping pong balls usually screw the C's. Hoping for some luck in this draft.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-40, #1 on 2/1)
Post by: saltlover on February 04, 2017, 08:54:26 AM
I see this as house money. I'm fine with anything in the top 3 of the draft. Ultimately, lookibg back, you will have acquired 3 possible top 3 picks for the corpses of Pierce/KG. That's so freaking amazing.

The ping pong balls usually screw the C's. Hoping for some luck in this draft.

Don't forget, we essentially got IT from that trade too.  We used our trade exception from Pierce to get a pick, Zeller, and Thornton from Cleveland a year after we traded Pierce and KG.  Then we traded that very same pick and Thornton to Phoenix at the deadline for IT.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-40, #1 on 2/1)
Post by: PAOBoston on February 04, 2017, 09:03:18 AM
I see this as house money. I'm fine with anything in the top 3 of the draft. Ultimately, lookibg back, you will have acquired 3 possible top 3 picks for the corpses of Pierce/KG. That's so freaking amazing.

The ping pong balls usually screw the C's. Hoping for some luck in this draft.

Don't forget, we essentially got IT from that trade too.  We used our trade exception from Pierce to get a pick, Zeller, and Thornton from Cleveland a year after we traded Pierce and KG.  Then we traded that very same pick and Thornton to Phoenix at the deadline for IT.
Even better. It's like the gift that keeps on giving.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-40, #1 on 2/1)
Post by: The One on February 04, 2017, 10:03:18 AM
I see this as house money. I'm fine with anything in the top 3 of the draft. Ultimately, lookibg back, you will have acquired 3 possible top 3 picks for the corpses of Pierce/KG. That's so freaking amazing.

The ping pong balls usually screw the C's. Hoping for some luck in this draft.

Don't forget, we essentially got IT from that trade too.  We used our trade exception from Pierce to get a pick, Zeller, and Thornton from Cleveland a year after we traded Pierce and KG.  Then we traded that very same pick and Thornton to Phoenix at the deadline for IT.

So will this be the best transaction(s) in Celtics history?
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-40, #1 on 2/1)
Post by: bopna on February 04, 2017, 10:03:35 AM
I see this as house money. I'm fine with anything in the top 3 of the draft. Ultimately, lookibg back, you will have acquired 3 possible top 3 picks for the corpses of Pierce/KG. That's so freaking amazing.

The ping pong balls usually screw the C's. Hoping for some luck in this draft.
If it its the Cs own then yes we have been pretty unlucky. In 1997 and 10 yrs later. For some reason the Cs and the pingping balls are not a good pair. We don't just win it..we always get screwed big time.

The pick though is luckier if its from a trade. Way back in 86 we ended up with the 2nd pick via trade from the Gerald Henderson deal and then now the infamous Billy King heist where we got the 3rd pick from a 3rd worst record..iswear if that 3rd worst record was from the Cs then I bet ya it would have ended up being a 5th pick.

Now anything from a top 3 this year would be nice. Hoping the pingpong balls bounce again for the Nets like it always does in the past.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-40, #1 on 2/1)
Post by: hwangjini_1 on February 04, 2017, 10:24:37 AM
I see this as house money. I'm fine with anything in the top 3 of the draft. Ultimately, lookibg back, you will have acquired 3 possible top 3 picks for the corpses of Pierce/KG. That's so freaking amazing.

The ping pong balls usually screw the C's. Hoping for some luck in this draft.

Don't forget, we essentially got IT from that trade too.  We used our trade exception from Pierce to get a pick, Zeller, and Thornton from Cleveland a year after we traded Pierce and KG.  Then we traded that very same pick and Thornton to Phoenix at the deadline for IT.

So will this be the best transaction(s) in Celtics history?
Better than the Mchale and parish deal? Wow, maybe. But we won't know for another 3-6 years I think.

When that debate arises here, the definition for "best" will probably involve counting the number of chamonships. So we shall see.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-41, #1 on 2/3)
Post by: The One on February 04, 2017, 01:54:00 PM
And they couldn't keep Yogi Ferrell?

Now he's blowing up for Dallas, will be signing a two year deal with the Mavs.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-41, #1 on 2/3)
Post by: Smokeeye123 on February 04, 2017, 02:02:07 PM
So is it assured we are getting a top 4 pick now? Suns won last night and are now 7 games ahead of the Nets.

Need some Fultz or Jackson in my life.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-41, #1 on 2/3)
Post by: Donoghus on February 04, 2017, 02:05:14 PM
So is it assured we are getting a top 4 pick now? Suns won last night and are now 7 games ahead of the Nets.

Need some Fultz or Jackson in my life.

Not assured but certainly within striking distance.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-41, #1 on 2/3)
Post by: Ogaju on February 04, 2017, 02:10:41 PM
pull up the NBA LEAGUE standings, and you will see the shear magnitude of a second half the Nets need to avoid being the last team in the league.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-41, #1 on 2/3)
Post by: libermaniac on February 04, 2017, 02:32:14 PM
So is it assured we are getting a top 4 pick now? Suns won last night and are now 7 games ahead of the Nets.

Need some Fultz or Jackson in my life.
Pretty much. So I guess that means we'll have to freeze this thread. ;)
Too bad because it's my favorite thread. I think we might have to create an anti-Nets thread in two years, even when we don't own their pick, because it's so [dang] fun.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-41, #1 on 2/3)
Post by: hwangjini_1 on February 04, 2017, 02:36:33 PM
So is it assured we are getting a top 4 pick now? Suns won last night and are now 7 games ahead of the Nets.

Need some Fultz or Jackson in my life.
Pretty much. So I guess that means we'll have to freeze this thread. ;)
Too bad because it's my favorite thread. I think we might have to create an anti-Nets thread in two years, even when we don't own their pick, because it's so [dang] fun.
dont worry about the thread. it will come back again next year since the nets will still stink.  ;D

this is really fun.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-41, #1 on 2/3)
Post by: The One on February 04, 2017, 04:32:45 PM
So is it assured we are getting a top 4 pick now? Suns won last night and are now 7 games ahead of the Nets.

Need some Fultz or Jackson in my life.

99.3% chance of the Nets having the worst record this year.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/friv/proj_draft.html


Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-41, #1 on 2/3)
Post by: Ogaju on February 04, 2017, 05:03:53 PM
So is it assured we are getting a top 4 pick now? Suns won last night and are now 7 games ahead of the Nets.

Need some Fultz or Jackson in my life.
Pretty much. So I guess that means we'll have to freeze this thread. ;)
Too bad because it's my favorite thread. I think we might have to create an anti-Nets thread in two years, even when we don't own their pick, because it's so [dang] fun.
dont worry about the thread. it will come back again next year since the nets will still stink.  ;D

this is really fun.

NBA News brought to you by FAKE MEDIA   the league's leading source of fake news.

BKN Nets of the NBA just filed a complaint with the authorities against a certain Danny Ainge a resident of Boston, MA. When asked what the complaint was about, the Nets front office said they were not sure, but thought that a certain deal they struck with said Danny Ainge years ago must violate some law somewhere. Pressed for more details the officer who spoke anonymously because he was not authorized to comment said that said Danny Ainge orchestrated a deal where his organization regardless of their proficiency get to take the Nets lottery picks three years in a row. The authorities were befuddled.

Mr. Ainge was last seen at the Boston Celtics Friday night game against rival los Angeles Lakers. When asked to comment on this development Mr. Ainge said he could not divulge trade secrets, but he reminded the reporter that when the deal was made years ago even his own fan base blasted him for making a terrible deal.

GO CELTICS !!!!
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-41, #1 on 2/3)
Post by: Quetzalcoatl on February 04, 2017, 06:19:31 PM
I wonder if instead of stashing guys overseas, could we set up like a 1 year stint on the Nets instead?  Like wouldnt it be better for Zizic to have played there?  Theyre practically our d league team now anyway, but it might hurt our pick
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-41, #1 on 2/3)
Post by: SCeltic34 on February 04, 2017, 06:53:17 PM
So is it assured we are getting a top 4 pick now? Suns won last night and are now 7 games ahead of the Nets.

Need some Fultz or Jackson in my life.
Pretty much. So I guess that means we'll have to freeze this thread. ;)
Too bad because it's my favorite thread. I think we might have to create an anti-Nets thread in two years, even when we don't own their pick, because it's so [dang] fun.
dont worry about the thread. it will come back again next year since the nets will still stink.  ;D

this is really fun.

Unless I get run over by a truck, mauled by a bear, or meet my end by some other untimely event, yes the thread will be back next year.  I'll aim to have it up right around free agency/draft time like I did this thread.

I'm ready to say with near full certainty that we'll have the #1 odds by the end of the season.  Having watched > 95% of the Nets games over the past 1.5 seasons, I have to say that it will actually be nice to not have to tune into their games as frequently this year.  My blood pressure is pristine and I'd prefer to keep it that way.

Looking ahead, 2018 is very promising.  Brooklyn probably won't pick up any major talent in free agency, and they won't be able to improve much through the draft with a late first rounder (from us) and a late 2nd rounder (again from us).  Further, even if they trade Lopez for additional picks in 2017 or young talent, young players won't win them games in 2018.

Also noteworthy is that Indiana owes Brooklyn a 2nd rounder for 2017 (and beyond if not conveyed), but it's protected 45-60 so it won't be conveyed this season if Indiana makes the playoffs (which they seem likely to do) - unless I'm misreading the fine print.

Quote
2017 second round draft pick to Brooklyn
Indiana's 2nd round pick to Brooklyn protected for selections 45-60 in 2017, 45-60 in 2018, 45-60 in 2019, 45-60 in 2020, 45-60 in 2021 and 45-60 in 2022 and unprotected in 2023 [Brooklyn-Indiana, 7/7/2016]

Edit: I should also add that the Nets owe their own 2017 2nd round pick - unprotected - to Atlanta.  What a bleak future in Brooklyn.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-41, #1 on 2/3)
Post by: hpantazo on February 04, 2017, 07:07:17 PM
Considering how empty their pick cabinet is and how awful they are, it only makes sense for them to trade Lopez for picks or prospects sooner rather than later. If he goes down with a broken foot again they lose the only tradable asset they have.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-41, #1 on 2/3)
Post by: BringToughnessBack on February 04, 2017, 07:53:04 PM
What an amazing situation our team is in. Possible 3 top 3 picks in 3 straight years. I do not see a light at end of tunnel for Nets anytime soon. I wish these picks would continue past 18! Maybe we can trade Horford in 4 years to them for more unprotected firsts. ;D

The only way I release 17 pick is for Cousins....he is the only player that could cause serious issues for the Cavs and he would present a nice obstacle for that large fellow on sixers for next half a decade. 18 is looking like another golden ticket as well.

Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-41, #1 on 2/3)
Post by: Ogaju on February 05, 2017, 01:37:01 PM
NETS down 13 at home to Derozen-less Raptors team and their players are laughing it up on the bench. I think they have given up on the season.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-41, #1 on 2/3)
Post by: saltlover on February 05, 2017, 01:45:21 PM
NETS down 13 at home to Derozen-less Raptors team and their players are laughing it up on the bench. I think they have given up on the season.

Well at least they're all getting along.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-42, #1 on 2/5)
Post by: chambers on February 06, 2017, 11:28:16 PM
Lakers beat Knicks
Suns lose to NO but that's kinda win win.


The ball keeps rolling.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-42, #1 on 2/5)
Post by: jdz101 on February 07, 2017, 12:04:07 AM
Sacramento down 25 to a jimmy butler-less bulls.

Cousins' body language could not be worse than it is right now, and they'll probably give him 200 million dollars.

what a **** show

He could be available with the brooklyn picks, though I doubt he'd turn down 200 milly from that idiotic franchise.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-42, #1 on 2/5)
Post by: The One on February 07, 2017, 09:23:14 AM
Lakers beat Knicks
Suns lose to NO but that's kinda win win.


The ball keeps rolling.

Due to these events...the Nets' odds of having the worst record have INCREASED from 99.3% to 99.5%.

We are REALLY close to putting this puppy to bed (worst record, that is)... ;D

http://www.basketball-reference.com/friv/proj_draft.html

Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-42, #1 on 2/5)
Post by: mef730 on February 07, 2017, 10:37:28 AM
Lakers beat Knicks
Suns lose to NO but that's kinda win win.


The ball keeps rolling.

Due to these events...the Nets' odds of having the worst record have INCREASED from 99.3% to 99.5%.

We are REALLY close to putting this puppy to bed (worst record, that is)... ;D

http://www.basketball-reference.com/friv/proj_draft.html

If the Nets doubled their existing winning percentage for the remainder of the season (i.e., a .352 win percentage), they'd end the season with 20 wins. There is only one other team in the entire NBA that is not within two games of 20 wins: Phoenix at 16.

I'm feeling pretty good.

Mike
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-42, #1 on 2/5)
Post by: celticsclay on February 07, 2017, 06:58:19 PM
Lakers beat Knicks
Suns lose to NO but that's kinda win win.


The ball keeps rolling.

Due to these events...the Nets' odds of having the worst record have INCREASED from 99.3% to 99.5%.

We are REALLY close to putting this puppy to bed (worst record, that is)... ;D

http://www.basketball-reference.com/friv/proj_draft.html

If the Nets doubled their existing winning percentage for the remainder of the season (i.e., a .352 win percentage), they'd end the season with 20 wins. There is only one other team in the entire NBA that is not within two games of 20 wins: Phoenix at 16.

I'm feeling pretty good.

Mike

Are people even following their games anymore?
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-42, #1 on 2/5)
Post by: saltlover on February 07, 2017, 07:15:25 PM
Lakers beat Knicks
Suns lose to NO but that's kinda win win.


The ball keeps rolling.

Due to these events...the Nets' odds of having the worst record have INCREASED from 99.3% to 99.5%.

We are REALLY close to putting this puppy to bed (worst record, that is)... ;D

http://www.basketball-reference.com/friv/proj_draft.html

If the Nets doubled their existing winning percentage for the remainder of the season (i.e., a .352 win percentage), they'd end the season with 20 wins. There is only one other team in the entire NBA that is not within two games of 20 wins: Phoenix at 16.

I'm feeling pretty good.

Mike

Are people even following their games anymore?

I peek at the score so as to not get complacent, but I wouldn't mind if they beat Washington tomorrow, for example.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-42, #1 on 2/5)
Post by: Ogaju on February 07, 2017, 08:05:32 PM
Yeah the Nets made quick business of it this year. They sure put this to bed pretty early.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-42, #1 on 2/5)
Post by: Ogaju on February 07, 2017, 08:09:45 PM
Hornets 54 Nets 37....

The Nets should start saving some of these losses for next season because we need them to lose next year too. Don't spend all your losses on this season guys. We need you to be last in the league by just one game not by 20.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-42, #1 on 2/5)
Post by: Ogaju on February 07, 2017, 08:11:28 PM
Honestly, how do you trade three straight first round picks to a division rival?
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-42, #1 on 2/5)
Post by: BringToughnessBack on February 07, 2017, 08:35:19 PM
I am starting to believe this trade is worse than one Vikings did for Herschel Walker! Hopefully it will lead to a few more banners for our rafters! The Nets never in their wildest nightmares thought they would fall off the cliff this fast.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-42, #1 on 2/5)
Post by: bopna on February 07, 2017, 08:45:26 PM
Lakers beat Knicks
Suns lose to NO but that's kinda win win.


The ball keeps rolling.

Due to these events...the Nets' odds of having the worst record have INCREASED from 99.3% to 99.5%.

We are REALLY close to putting this puppy to bed (worst record, that is)... ;D

http://www.basketball-reference.com/friv/proj_draft.html

If the Nets doubled their existing winning percentage for the remainder of the season (i.e., a .352 win percentage), they'd end the season with 20 wins. There is only one other team in the entire NBA that is not within two games of 20 wins: Phoenix at 16.

I'm feeling pretty good.

Mike

Are people even following their games anymore?

I peek at the score so as to not get complacent, but I wouldn't mind if they beat Washington tomorrow, for example.
Nah...that'll be wishful thinking.
They can't even beat their shadow at this point..but who knows, maybe Beal goes down or what.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-42, #1 on 2/5)
Post by: Ogaju on February 07, 2017, 09:29:35 PM
whew that was close.

Game over in Charlotte, Celtics win.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-42, #1 on 2/5)
Post by: Dannys Chipotle Guy on February 07, 2017, 10:06:38 PM
are 1-21 in their last 22 games.

That is truly remarkable.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-42, #1 on 2/5)
Post by: Ogaju on February 07, 2017, 10:23:37 PM
are 1-21 in their last 22 games.

That is truly remarkable.

yep they locked up the #1 seed before the All-Star break.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-42, #1 on 2/5)
Post by: hwangjini_1 on February 07, 2017, 10:33:33 PM
are 1-21 in their last 22 games.

That is truly remarkable.

I am not quite sure if remarkable is the right word here.  ;D
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-42, #1 on 2/5)
Post by: trickybilly on February 07, 2017, 11:19:47 PM
Thanks Charlotte.

If Chicago can pull off a miracle tomorrow, The Cnetstics and the Warriors will have perfectly opposite records, which appeals to me.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-42, #1 on 2/5)
Post by: Emmette Bryant on February 07, 2017, 11:23:43 PM
are 1-21 in their last 22 games.

That is truly remarkable.

I am not quite sure if remarkable is the right word here.  ;D

I never thought that the Nets would be this bad
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: trickybilly on February 07, 2017, 11:47:30 PM
There's still a chance that team might play itself out of the bottom 5.

I presume this chance has vanished?

 ;D
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: moiso on February 08, 2017, 12:05:19 AM
There's still a chance that team might play itself out of the bottom 5.

I presume this chance has vanished?

 ;D
Yes, they are "ravaged" by a Jeremy Lin injury.
Title: Re: The official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets season watch thread
Post by: Neurotic Guy on February 08, 2017, 01:17:35 AM
There's still a chance that team might play itself out of the bottom 5.

I presume this chance has vanished?

 ;D
Yes, they are "ravaged" by a Jeremy Lin injury.

J. Lin's new mantra when he returns: "28-3.... Anything's possible."

Netsanity.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-43, #1 on 2/7)
Post by: mef730 on February 08, 2017, 04:01:27 PM
30 games left, seven behind.

For the first time all season, I'll be rooting for the Nets tonight. I don't think they have a chance, but I can root for them all the same.

Mike
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-43, #1 on 2/7)
Post by: jpotter33 on February 08, 2017, 09:31:49 PM
I'm not going to lie - I'm secretly hoping for the Nets to win this and put a bit more separation between Boston and Washington. They've built a big enough lead for themselves that they should be safe to win a game like this.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-43, #1 on 2/7)
Post by: MattyIce on February 08, 2017, 09:47:51 PM
I'm not going to lie - I'm secretly hoping for the Nets to win this and put a bit more separation between Boston and Washington. They've built a big enough lead for themselves that they should be safe to win a game like this.

this is the first for me as well, feels weird
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-43, #1 on 2/7)
Post by: jpotter33 on February 08, 2017, 09:56:31 PM
That's a ballsy move by Levert to try and take a charge on that play at the end of the game lol
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-43, #1 on 2/7)
Post by: Phantom255x on February 08, 2017, 10:09:32 PM
Wizards up 111-107. 1:00 to go.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-43, #1 on 2/7)
Post by: Ogaju on February 08, 2017, 10:24:00 PM
Game over in Brooklyn, Celtics win.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-43, #1 on 2/7)
Post by: mr. dee on February 08, 2017, 10:38:58 PM
I was hoping for the Nets to win, actually just this time to gain a cushion over the Wizards in HCA.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-43, #1 on 2/7)
Post by: Ogaju on February 08, 2017, 10:41:26 PM
I was hoping for the Nets to win, actually just this time to gain a cushion over the Wizards in HCA.

That is bad juju..... you wanted Nets to lose every game, you got that in spades.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-43, #1 on 2/7)
Post by: Adelaide Celt on February 09, 2017, 12:07:10 AM
It's a shame some people were conflicted over who they wanted to lose. That was a quality L.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-43, #1 on 2/7)
Post by: Denis998 on February 09, 2017, 12:08:28 AM
It's a shame some people were conflicted over who they wanted to lose. That was a quality L.
yeah really demotivating thats for sure.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-43, #1 on 2/7)
Post by: chambers on February 09, 2017, 03:42:31 AM
Unbelievable how bad this team is lol.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-43, #1 on 2/7)
Post by: hwangjini_1 on February 10, 2017, 04:12:20 PM
a stroll down memory lane folks.

over on Sosh, i found the Nets Daily post from draft day 2013 when the big trade with the nets took place.

the article is not that interesting, but the comments from the nets fans are fun to read.  among my favorites:

"The picks are going to be in the 25-30 range."

"I hope we don't give up Toko Shengelia to Boston."

enjoy on a friday.  ;D

http://www.netsdaily.com/2013/6/27/4472938/nets-acquire-garnett-pierce#comments
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-43, #1 on 2/7)
Post by: The One on February 10, 2017, 04:16:00 PM
a stroll down memory lane folks.

over on Sosh, i found the Nets Daily post from draft day 2013 when the big trade with the nets took place.

the article is not that interesting, but the comments from the nets fans are fun to read.  among my favorites:

"The picks are going to be in the 25-30 range."

"I hope we don't give up Toko Shengelia to Boston."

enjoy on a friday.  ;D

http://www.netsdaily.com/2013/6/27/4472938/nets-acquire-garnett-pierce#comments

Wow...sick burn!

How cruel of you... ;D
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-43, #1 on 2/7)
Post by: The One on February 10, 2017, 04:18:41 PM
Chance of them having one of the two worst records...100%!!!

http://www.basketball-reference.com/friv/proj_draft.html



Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-43, #1 on 2/7)
Post by: saltlover on February 10, 2017, 04:20:56 PM
Chance of them having one of the two worst records...100%!!!

http://www.basketball-reference.com/friv/proj_draft.html

Also, that chart indicates we are 100% to make the playoffs!
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-43, #1 on 2/7)
Post by: Dannys Chipotle Guy on February 10, 2017, 04:32:05 PM
a stroll down memory lane folks.

over on Sosh, i found the Nets Daily post from draft day 2013 when the big trade with the nets took place.

the article is not that interesting, but the comments from the nets fans are fun to read.  among my favorites:

"The picks are going to be in the 25-30 range."

"I hope we don't give up Toko Shengelia to Boston."

enjoy on a friday.  ;D

http://www.netsdaily.com/2013/6/27/4472938/nets-acquire-garnett-pierce#comments

Wow...sick burn!

How cruel of you... ;D
how about this poor fella
"I can't believe I took a risk and upgraded my season tix!
But this is why! BK always pulls a coup!"
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-43, #1 on 2/7)
Post by: 86MaxwellSmart on February 10, 2017, 04:32:55 PM
a stroll down memory lane folks.

over on Sosh, i found the Nets Daily post from draft day 2013 when the big trade with the nets took place.

the article is not that interesting, but the comments from the nets fans are fun to read.  among my favorites:

"The picks are going to be in the 25-30 range."

"I hope we don't give up Toko Shengelia to Boston."

enjoy on a friday.  ;D

http://www.netsdaily.com/2013/6/27/4472938/nets-acquire-garnett-pierce#comments

Billy King---Executive of the Year---! Hysterical-!
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-43, #1 on 2/7)
Post by: kozlodoev on February 10, 2017, 05:48:16 PM
a stroll down memory lane folks.

over on Sosh, i found the Nets Daily post from draft day 2013 when the big trade with the nets took place.

the article is not that interesting, but the comments from the nets fans are fun to read.  among my favorites:

"The picks are going to be in the 25-30 range."

"I hope we don't give up Toko Shengelia to Boston."

enjoy on a friday.  ;D

http://www.netsdaily.com/2013/6/27/4472938/nets-acquire-garnett-pierce#comments

Billy King---Executive of the Year---! Hysterical-!
In fairness, Toko Shengelia did have one fantastic season with the Springfield Armor...
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-43, #1 on 2/7)
Post by: celticsclay on February 10, 2017, 06:01:59 PM
a stroll down memory lane folks.

over on Sosh, i found the Nets Daily post from draft day 2013 when the big trade with the nets took place.

the article is not that interesting, but the comments from the nets fans are fun to read.  among my favorites:

"The picks are going to be in the 25-30 range."

"I hope we don't give up Toko Shengelia to Boston."

enjoy on a friday.  ;D

http://www.netsdaily.com/2013/6/27/4472938/nets-acquire-garnett-pierce#comments

Billy King---Executive of the Year---! Hysterical-!

You know what thought I can see a universe where this all panned out a lot differently than it did.
For starters, it was unlucky they lost Brook for half the season and all the playoffs. He was a bad fit with KG, but Brook would have helped immensely in the playoffs. That being said they had one of those closer than it seems second round exits against the Heat.

They lost the series 4-1 but these games were really close. In game 4 they were tied with 3 minutes left and had the lead a few times in the 4th quarter.

In game 6 they somehow lost despite being up 9 with 3 minutes left in what was a really brutal choke job.

If those two games go differently maybe that team wins the series and the chip.

I know it is easy to make fun of the move and overall it was definitely a bad move. However, a few small things break differently for that trade and it is far from the laughingstock it now comes off as (nobody is laughing at a deal that leads to a championship)
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-43, #1 on 2/7)
Post by: TheTruthFot18 on February 10, 2017, 06:30:01 PM
a stroll down memory lane folks.

over on Sosh, i found the Nets Daily post from draft day 2013 when the big trade with the nets took place.

the article is not that interesting, but the comments from the nets fans are fun to read.  among my favorites:

"The picks are going to be in the 25-30 range."

"I hope we don't give up Toko Shengelia to Boston."

enjoy on a friday.  ;D

http://www.netsdaily.com/2013/6/27/4472938/nets-acquire-garnett-pierce#comments

Quote
Is there protection on the 2016 and 2018 picks?

No one answered this guy because they didn't think it could go south that quickly.  ;D
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-44, #1 on 2/9)
Post by: liam on February 10, 2017, 09:27:30 PM
Maimi up 4 in the 4th quarter! Go Maimi Celtics!
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-45, #1 on 2/10)
Post by: Redz on February 10, 2017, 09:58:20 PM
9 wins and 45 losses makes a tidy .167 Win PCT.  On pace for 14 wins for the season.  Amazing how bad they are!
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-45, #1 on 2/10)
Post by: moiso on February 10, 2017, 10:02:34 PM
They will be fine and scary once they aren't ravaged by injuries to key below average players. ;)
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-45, #1 on 2/10)
Post by: Boris Badenov on February 10, 2017, 10:07:33 PM
This year's lottery slot is a foregone conclusion, but these losses might still increase the value of the 2018 pick.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-45, #1 on 2/10)
Post by: chambers on February 10, 2017, 10:25:40 PM
After the Heat come back to win in Brooklyn, the Nets have lost 12 in a row. Tied a franchise record 14 straight losses at home.

Thankyou Billy King.

Thankyou your holiness Danny Ainge aka God.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-45, #1 on 2/10)
Post by: keepthefaith on February 10, 2017, 10:34:26 PM
Don't forget to root for the Timberwolves to lose too! We get their 2nd this year!
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-45, #1 on 2/10)
Post by: Ogaju on February 10, 2017, 10:36:12 PM
Game over in Brooklyn, Celtics win!!!!
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-45, #1 on 2/10)
Post by: SCeltic34 on February 11, 2017, 12:32:42 AM
This year's lottery slot is a foregone conclusion, but these losses might still increase the value of the 2018 pick.

I think at this point the Nets absolutely need to trade Lopez for future picks/young talent.  That would be tremendous for our 2018 pick.

It just doesn't make sense to limp into next season with a similar squad and a dearth of young talent to build for the future.  LeVert is the lone bright spot on the team.  RHJ does a few good things but is extremely flawed.  Whitehead wouldn't get playing time on a decent team.  The rest of their young players aren't worth anything.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-45, #1 on 2/10)
Post by: CelticsFanFromNYC on February 11, 2017, 12:53:34 AM

Someone on that Nets link that was posted quoted Bill Simmons and thought he was suffering lol

“did u just hear the Celtics traded 2 hall of famers for 3 meaning less draft picks & 1 of the worst contracts in the league” -Bill Simmons
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-45, #1 on 2/10)
Post by: trickybilly on February 11, 2017, 01:25:08 AM
Phoenix pick up another win against old friend Rondo!

This thread is OVER.

Change title to Official Lotto Superstistion Thread
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-45, #1 on 2/10)
Post by: moiso on February 11, 2017, 01:48:38 AM
This year's lottery slot is a foregone conclusion, but these losses might still increase the value of the 2018 pick.

I think at this point the Nets absolutely need to trade Lopez for future picks/young talent.  That would be tremendous for our 2018 pick.

It just doesn't make sense to limp into next season with a similar squad and a dearth of young talent to build for the future.  LeVert is the lone bright spot on the team.  RHJ does a few good things but is extremely flawed.  Whitehead wouldn't get playing time on a decent team.  The rest of their young players aren't worth anything.
You want the ownership who agreed to make the trade to give away all of those draft picks to suddenly smarten up and do the right thing?  Will Ranadive do what we want?  Will Dolan become a model owner?  It makes sense to most people to get whatever they can for Lopez but some of these owners don't approve of what makes sense.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-45, #1 on 2/10)
Post by: The One on February 11, 2017, 09:34:03 AM
Phoenix pick up another win against old friend Rondo!

This thread is OVER.

Change title to Official Lotto Superstistion Thread

http://www.basketball-reference.com/friv/proj_draft.html

You're just about right.

There's now a 99.9% chance that they will finish with the WORST record!

 :laugh:
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-45, #1 on 2/10)
Post by: hwangjini_1 on February 11, 2017, 09:36:42 AM
Phoenix pick up another win against old friend Rondo!

This thread is OVER.

Change title to Official Lotto Superstistion Thread
Over?, it's not over until I say it's over!  ;D
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-45, #1 on 2/10)
Post by: saltlover on February 11, 2017, 09:51:07 AM
This year's lottery slot is a foregone conclusion, but these losses might still increase the value of the 2018 pick.

I think at this point the Nets absolutely need to trade Lopez for future picks/young talent.  That would be tremendous for our 2018 pick.

It just doesn't make sense to limp into next season with a similar squad and a dearth of young talent to build for the future.  LeVert is the lone bright spot on the team.  RHJ does a few good things but is extremely flawed.  Whitehead wouldn't get playing time on a decent team.  The rest of their young players aren't worth anything.
You want the ownership who agreed to make the trade to give away all of those draft picks to suddenly smarten up and do the right thing?  Will Ranadive do what we want?  Will Dolan become a model owner?  It makes sense to most people to get whatever they can for Lopez but some of these owners don't approve of what makes sense.

They are trying to trade Lopez.  The problem has been threefold for them, however.  Firstly, not every team needs him.  Secondly, the Nets have been so bad last year and even more this year, with him healthy both years, undoubtedly teams will question whether he even helps you win games.  Thirdly, teams wanted to see what the new CBA was going to look like before making any trades this season.  That's now out of the way, but the other two problems still exist.

I think he'd be a good acquisition for Portland, but his contract will be tough to fit in there given how much salary they have committed both this year and next.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-45, #1 on 2/10)
Post by: Ogaju on February 11, 2017, 11:18:48 AM
BKN needs to save some losses for next season.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-45, #1 on 2/10)
Post by: Celts Fan 508 on February 11, 2017, 11:30:27 AM
I have read reports that Brooklyn is prepared to offer Otto Porter a max contract after the season.  He will help them but not significantly.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-45, #1 on 2/10)
Post by: Vermont Green on February 11, 2017, 12:01:49 PM
Phoenix pick up another win against old friend Rondo!

This thread is OVER.

Change title to Official Lotto Superstistion Thread
Over?, it's not over until I say it's over!  ;D

Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-45, #1 on 2/10)
Post by: mef730 on February 13, 2017, 03:49:16 PM
I don't have anything substantive to add, I just kind of felt bad for this thread. I didn't want it to feel neglected. It's been like the Giving Tree, and now we're just down to the stump.

Mike
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-45, #1 on 2/10)
Post by: Redz on February 13, 2017, 03:54:16 PM
I don't have anything substantive to add, I just kind of felt bad for this thread. I didn't want it to feel neglected. It's been like the Giving Tree, and now we're just down to the stump.

Mike

The thread may be, but thankfully the Nets giving tree still has much fruit to bear.  Green apples for sure. 

Giving Tree always made me sad as a kid btw
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-45, #1 on 2/10)
Post by: kraidstar on February 13, 2017, 04:45:27 PM
Brooklyn has lost 12 straight, 23 out of 24, and 40 out of 45. We are far removed from their magical 4-5 start. ANd it' snot looking like it'll get much better anytime soon.

After tonight's game against Memphis they host the Bucks.

Then they go on the road for 8 straight games.
@Denver
@Golden State
@Sacto
@Portland
@Utah
@Memphis
@Atlanta
@Dallas

Should be brutal.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-45, #1 on 2/10)
Post by: mef730 on February 13, 2017, 05:21:27 PM
Brooklyn has lost 12 straight, 23 out of 24, and 40 out of 45. We are far removed from their magical 4-5 start. ANd it' snot looking like it'll get much better anytime soon.

After tonight's game against Memphis they host the Bucks.

Then they go on the road for 8 straight games.
@Denver
@Golden State
@Sacto
@Portland
@Utah
@Memphis
@Atlanta
@Dallas

Should be brutal.

You know you're bad when 4-5 can accurately be described as "magical."

Mike
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-45, #1 on 2/10)
Post by: libermaniac on February 13, 2017, 05:43:16 PM
The Suns host New Orleans tonight and the Lakers on Wednesday.  Brooklyn could conceivably be 10 games behind the Suns with 26 to go at the break.   :)
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-45, #1 on 2/10)
Post by: Ogaju on February 13, 2017, 09:39:13 PM
This thread will not be ignored !!!!
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-45, #1 on 2/10)
Post by: trickybilly on February 13, 2017, 09:46:31 PM
Phoenix pick up another win against old friend Rondo!

This thread is OVER.

Change title to Official Lotto Superstistion Thread
Over?, it's not over until I say it's over!  ;D

Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?

Is that an in-joke I don't get, or just more evidence that we are truly in the Trump era.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-45, #1 on 2/10)
Post by: saltlover on February 13, 2017, 09:47:37 PM
Phoenix pick up another win against old friend Rondo!

This thread is OVER.

Change title to Official Lotto Superstistion Thread
Over?, it's not over until I say it's over!  ;D

Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?

Is that an in-joke I don't get, or just more evidence that we are truly in the Trump era.

It's from Animal House.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-45, #1 on 2/10)
Post by: mahcus smaht on February 13, 2017, 09:47:52 PM
Phoenix pick up another win against old friend Rondo!

This thread is OVER.

Change title to Official Lotto Superstistion Thread
Over?, it's not over until I say it's over!  ;D

Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?

Is that an in-joke I don't get, or just more evidence that we are truly in the Trump era.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7vtWB4owdE

cmon man! This is an American classic!
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-45, #1 on 2/10)
Post by: Ogaju on February 13, 2017, 09:51:53 PM
Game over in Brooklyn, Celtics win.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-45, #1 on 2/10)
Post by: mahcus smaht on February 13, 2017, 09:56:26 PM
13 consecutive losses.

The gift that keeps on giving.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-45, #1 on 2/10)
Post by: mef730 on February 14, 2017, 10:01:59 AM
THE MAGIC NUMBER IS 1!

Sorry for the shouting, I'm just excited. BKN is exactly 27 games behind us, with 27 left to go. One Brooklyn loss or Celtics win between now and the end of the season means that they are switching picks with us.*

I don't like to get ahead of myself on these things, but I'm feeling pretty good about this one.

Mike

*Technically, even if we finish ahead of BKN, we could still be in a situation where we wouldn't switch picks. Without involving trades or other teams, a TP to the first person who can tell me how such a situation could occur.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-45, #1 on 2/10)
Post by: Granath on February 15, 2017, 12:47:12 PM
THE MAGIC NUMBER IS 1!

Sorry for the shouting, I'm just excited. BKN is exactly 27 games behind us, with 27 left to go. One Brooklyn loss or Celtics win between now and the end of the season means that they are switching picks with us.*

I don't like to get ahead of myself on these things, but I'm feeling pretty good about this one.

Mike

*Technically, even if we finish ahead of BKN, we could still be in a situation where we wouldn't switch picks. Without involving trades or other teams, a TP to the first person who can tell me how such a situation could occur.

If both the Cs and Brooklyn were in the lottery and the Celtics pick won it/was higher than the Brooklyn pick even if Brooklyn was worse during the regular season.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-45, #1 on 2/10)
Post by: Big333223 on February 15, 2017, 01:07:45 PM
I have read reports that Brooklyn is prepared to offer Otto Porter a max contract after the season.  He will help them but not significantly.
Probably a smart move from them. What if they tried to max out Porter and Ibaka? Would they come together on a team with Lopez and Lin? Could that work?
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-45, #1 on 2/10)
Post by: libermaniac on February 15, 2017, 01:13:15 PM
I have read reports that Brooklyn is prepared to offer Otto Porter a max contract after the season.  He will help them but not significantly.
Probably a smart move from them. What if they tried to max out Porter and Ibaka? Would they come together on a team with Lopez and Lin? Could that work?
Why is that a smart move?  Their smartest move would be to trade Lopez for a first rounder, and take the Philly route of stinking for a few years to get some nice draft picks.  If you add Porter and Ibaka, they are likely to be in the mid-end of the lottery (6th-10th) worst record.  There is still the hope for lotto luck, but there would be a VERY good chance you get picks in the 8th-12th range, that don't help you change your franchise, and then you are stuck in NBA purgatory.  The only way that makes sense is a HUGE overpay on a one year deal just to put butts in the seats since it won't be their pick they are hurting next year.  But, not sure if those players would go for huge one year deals ... maybe.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-45, #1 on 2/10)
Post by: mef730 on February 15, 2017, 01:49:01 PM
THE MAGIC NUMBER IS 1!

Sorry for the shouting, I'm just excited. BKN is exactly 27 games behind us, with 27 left to go. One Brooklyn loss or Celtics win between now and the end of the season means that they are switching picks with us.*

I don't like to get ahead of myself on these things, but I'm feeling pretty good about this one.

Mike

*Technically, even if we finish ahead of BKN, we could still be in a situation where we wouldn't switch picks. Without involving trades or other teams, a TP to the first person who can tell me how such a situation could occur.

If both the Cs and Brooklyn were in the lottery and the Celtics pick won it/was higher than the Brooklyn pick even if Brooklyn was worse during the regular season.

TP to you.

Mike
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-45, #1 on 2/10)
Post by: mef730 on February 15, 2017, 01:52:26 PM
I have read reports that Brooklyn is prepared to offer Otto Porter a max contract after the season.  He will help them but not significantly.
Probably a smart move from them. What if they tried to max out Porter and Ibaka? Would they come together on a team with Lopez and Lin? Could that work?
Why is that a smart move?  Their smartest move would be to trade Lopez for a first rounder, and take the Philly route of stinking for a few years to get some nice draft picks.  If you add Porter and Ibaka, they are likely to be in the mid-end of the lottery (6th-10th) worst record.  There is still the hope for lotto luck, but there would be a VERY good chance you get picks in the 8th-12th range, that don't help you change your franchise, and then you are stuck in NBA purgatory.  The only way that makes sense is a HUGE overpay on a one year deal just to put butts in the seats since it won't be their pick they are hurting next year.  But, not sure if those players would go for huge one year deals ... maybe.

I don't think they would go for huge one-year deals, because there is likely somebody out there willing to offer them huge four-year deals.

You are right about the best option to go all Philly on the NBA, but this ownership team has not shown any common sense so far. Wonder if that'll change.

Mike
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-45, #1 on 2/10)
Post by: Redz on February 15, 2017, 06:36:30 PM
THE MAGIC NUMBER IS 1!

Sorry for the shouting, I'm just excited. BKN is exactly 27 games behind us, with 27 left to go. One Brooklyn loss or Celtics win between now and the end of the season means that they are switching picks with us.*

I don't like to get ahead of myself on these things, but I'm feeling pretty good about this one.

Mike

*Technically, even if we finish ahead of BKN, we could still be in a situation where we wouldn't switch picks. Without involving trades or other teams, a TP to the first person who can tell me how such a situation could occur.

If both the Cs and Brooklyn were in the lottery and the Celtics pick won it/was higher than the Brooklyn pick even if Brooklyn was worse during the regular season.

TP to you.

Mike

Or if we make a trade swapping the picks back again with them I guess. 
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-45, #1 on 2/10)
Post by: Quetzalcoatl on February 15, 2017, 06:44:15 PM
THE MAGIC NUMBER IS 1!

Sorry for the shouting, I'm just excited. BKN is exactly 27 games behind us, with 27 left to go. One Brooklyn loss or Celtics win between now and the end of the season means that they are switching picks with us.*

I don't like to get ahead of myself on these things, but I'm feeling pretty good about this one.

Mike

*Technically, even if we finish ahead of BKN, we could still be in a situation where we wouldn't switch picks. Without involving trades or other teams, a TP to the first person who can tell me how such a situation could occur.

If both the Cs and Brooklyn were in the lottery and the Celtics pick won it/was higher than the Brooklyn pick even if Brooklyn was worse during the regular season.

Yeah but the priority is to get them as bad of a pick as possible in a loaded draft.  I'd much rather them get say Tyler Lydon than Dwayne Bacon.  Plus, someone like Harry Giles could slip to 20 at this point, although it's unlikely.  Let's just win more games and hope that they draft a scrub.  After next year, hopefully they can start getting their act together because I am feeling bad for their fans.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-46, #1 on 2/13)
Post by: trickybilly on February 15, 2017, 07:08:57 PM
Speaking of the swap, another incentive to chase down Cleveland is making sure the Nets get the 27th pick. Not the 26th.

Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-46, #1 on 2/13)
Post by: SHAQATTACK on February 15, 2017, 09:56:14 PM
Get our Mojo back
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-46, #1 on 2/13)
Post by: saltlover on February 15, 2017, 10:08:50 PM
Suns up 20 on the Lakers at halftime.  If the score holds, the Nets would have to double their season win total in their final 26 games to even have a chance of not finishing with the worst record.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-45, #1 on 2/10)
Post by: Celts Fan 508 on February 15, 2017, 10:16:23 PM
I have read reports that Brooklyn is prepared to offer Otto Porter a max contract after the season.  He will help them but not significantly.
Probably a smart move from them. What if they tried to max out Porter and Ibaka? Would they come together on a team with Lopez and Lin? Could that work?
Why is that a smart move?  Their smartest move would be to trade Lopez for a first rounder, and take the Philly route of stinking for a few years to get some nice draft picks.  If you add Porter and Ibaka, they are likely to be in the mid-end of the lottery (6th-10th) worst record.  There is still the hope for lotto luck, but there would be a VERY good chance you get picks in the 8th-12th range, that don't help you change your franchise, and then you are stuck in NBA purgatory.  The only way that makes sense is a HUGE overpay on a one year deal just to put butts in the seats since it won't be their pick they are hurting next year.  But, not sure if those players would go for huge one year deals ... maybe.

I agree, but they play in New York and it has been a disaster for them.  I think Porter is a good fit there because I like his game and he's young.  Trade Lopez for picks and an expiring, try to sign some players to one year deals and build around Porter until you hit in the draft. 

I think being in Brooklyn they could lose that crowd quick if they go full Philly. 
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-45, #1 on 2/10)
Post by: jambr380 on February 15, 2017, 10:26:14 PM
I have read reports that Brooklyn is prepared to offer Otto Porter a max contract after the season.  He will help them but not significantly.
Probably a smart move from them. What if they tried to max out Porter and Ibaka? Would they come together on a team with Lopez and Lin? Could that work?

Why in the world would either Porter or Ibaka sign with BKN, though? They are just dreadful. Since Toronto just traded for Serge, it is likely they sign him to a pretty hefty deal. They can also offer a 5th year which is humongous with his age concerns.

With Porter, he is going to have several teams lined up to offer max or near max offers (including the Wiz). Assuming he wanted to leave, why wouldn't he choose a team like the Cs over BKN? A lot of things would have to really fall right for BKN to sign anybody of consequence. We saw how things went down this past off-season when they had loads of money to spend.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-45, #1 on 2/10)
Post by: mctyson on February 15, 2017, 10:39:03 PM
I have read reports that Brooklyn is prepared to offer Otto Porter a max contract after the season.  He will help them but not significantly.
Probably a smart move from them. What if they tried to max out Porter and Ibaka? Would they come together on a team with Lopez and Lin? Could that work?

Why in the world would either Porter or Ibaka sign with BKN, though? They are just dreadful. Since Toronto just traded for Serge, it is likely they sign him to a pretty hefty deal. They can also offer a 5th year which is humongous with his age concerns.

With Porter, he is going to have several teams lined up to offer max or near max offers (including the Wiz). Assuming he wanted to leave, why wouldn't he choose a team like the Cs over BKN? A lot of things would have to really fall right for BKN to sign anybody of consequence. We saw how things went down this past off-season when they had loads of money to spend.

Money.

I have been of the opinion the Nets have totally blown this rebuild.  They should have traded away every valuable player on their roster last year for whatever draft picks they could get, and bottomed out, even with the Cs having their pick. 

They should then go after every young quality free agent possible, basically with the position that 'it's your team and we will build around you.'  Porter fits this mold.  Unfortunately, they have no assets to fit around him besides other FAs and these guys most likely will be vets who will not let him be the guy.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-45, #1 on 2/10)
Post by: saltlover on February 15, 2017, 10:41:35 PM
I have read reports that Brooklyn is prepared to offer Otto Porter a max contract after the season.  He will help them but not significantly.
Probably a smart move from them. What if they tried to max out Porter and Ibaka? Would they come together on a team with Lopez and Lin? Could that work?

Why in the world would either Porter or Ibaka sign with BKN, though? They are just dreadful. Since Toronto just traded for Serge, it is likely they sign him to a pretty hefty deal. They can also offer a 5th year which is humongous with his age concerns.

With Porter, he is going to have several teams lined up to offer max or near max offers (including the Wiz). Assuming he wanted to leave, why wouldn't he choose a team like the Cs over BKN? A lot of things would have to really fall right for BKN to sign anybody of consequence. We saw how things went down this past off-season when they had loads of money to spend.

Porter's been third fiddle in Washington, he might like the opportunity to show he's capable of being the lead dog.  Of course, he's restricted, and Washington could match (although I'm on record as saying they won't if he's offered the max.)
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-46, #1 on 2/13)
Post by: Ogaju on February 15, 2017, 10:47:15 PM
Game over in Brooklyn, Celtics win.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-45, #1 on 2/10)
Post by: fantankerous on February 15, 2017, 10:58:38 PM
I have read reports that Brooklyn is prepared to offer Otto Porter a max contract after the season.  He will help them but not significantly.
Probably a smart move from them. What if they tried to max out Porter and Ibaka? Would they come together on a team with Lopez and Lin? Could that work?

Why in the world would either Porter or Ibaka sign with BKN, though? They are just dreadful. Since Toronto just traded for Serge, it is likely they sign him to a pretty hefty deal. They can also offer a 5th year which is humongous with his age concerns.

With Porter, he is going to have several teams lined up to offer max or near max offers (including the Wiz). Assuming he wanted to leave, why wouldn't he choose a team like the Cs over BKN? A lot of things would have to really fall right for BKN to sign anybody of consequence. We saw how things went down this past off-season when they had loads of money to spend.

Porter's been third fiddle in Washington, he might like the opportunity to show he's capable of being the lead dog.  Of course, he's restricted, and Washington could match (although I'm on record as saying they won't if he's offered the max.)

Good point.  I don't think Brooklyn will be the only team offering Porter the max though.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-45, #1 on 2/10)
Post by: saltlover on February 15, 2017, 11:06:56 PM
I have read reports that Brooklyn is prepared to offer Otto Porter a max contract after the season.  He will help them but not significantly.
Probably a smart move from them. What if they tried to max out Porter and Ibaka? Would they come together on a team with Lopez and Lin? Could that work?

Why in the world would either Porter or Ibaka sign with BKN, though? They are just dreadful. Since Toronto just traded for Serge, it is likely they sign him to a pretty hefty deal. They can also offer a 5th year which is humongous with his age concerns.

With Porter, he is going to have several teams lined up to offer max or near max offers (including the Wiz). Assuming he wanted to leave, why wouldn't he choose a team like the Cs over BKN? A lot of things would have to really fall right for BKN to sign anybody of consequence. We saw how things went down this past off-season when they had loads of money to spend.

Porter's been third fiddle in Washington, he might like the opportunity to show he's capable of being the lead dog.  Of course, he's restricted, and Washington could match (although I'm on record as saying they won't if he's offered the max.)

Good point.  I don't think Brooklyn will be the only team offering Porter the max though.

I don't either.  But it could be why he'd choose Brooklyn over some other seemingly better situations.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-45, #1 on 2/10)
Post by: jdz101 on February 15, 2017, 11:09:11 PM
I have read reports that Brooklyn is prepared to offer Otto Porter a max contract after the season.  He will help them but not significantly.
Probably a smart move from them. What if they tried to max out Porter and Ibaka? Would they come together on a team with Lopez and Lin? Could that work?

Why in the world would either Porter or Ibaka sign with BKN, though? They are just dreadful. Since Toronto just traded for Serge, it is likely they sign him to a pretty hefty deal. They can also offer a 5th year which is humongous with his age concerns.

With Porter, he is going to have several teams lined up to offer max or near max offers (including the Wiz). Assuming he wanted to leave, why wouldn't he choose a team like the Cs over BKN? A lot of things would have to really fall right for BKN to sign anybody of consequence. We saw how things went down this past off-season when they had loads of money to spend.

Porter's been third fiddle in Washington, he might like the opportunity to show he's capable of being the lead dog.  Of course, he's restricted, and Washington could match (although I'm on record as saying they won't if he's offered the max.)

Good point.  I don't think Brooklyn will be the only team offering Porter the max though.

There will be a large amount of teams offering Porter max money and the Wizards will match.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-46, #1 on 2/13)
Post by: saltlover on February 16, 2017, 12:10:15 AM
Suns get win #18 tonight.  I thought Brooklyn had a real good shot at worst record this season, but I'd be lying if I thought that heading into the All-Star break they'd be at the bottom with only half the wins of the next closest team.  Pretty incredible.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-46, #1 on 2/13)
Post by: Ilikesports17 on February 16, 2017, 12:13:34 AM
Proud to say I was wrong about the Nets again. I thought theyd be around 5th worst.

Here we are at half way and theyve basically locked up the last pick. Unbelieveable.

Last year I thought theyd be 7-10 and they went #3.

Next season Ill have to predict 5th pick again.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-46, #1 on 2/13)
Post by: hwangjini_1 on February 16, 2017, 10:23:35 AM
just a simple update, though, i am not sure why at this stage. the nets still stink. indeed, they stink more now than the did before.

they are currently on a FOURTEEN GAME LOSING STREAK.   :o

i am almost ready to feel sorry for them to be this awful.  :P
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-46, #1 on 2/13)
Post by: Ogaju on February 16, 2017, 10:41:39 AM
Before we start celebrating take a peek back, the Lakers are in full TANK MODE.

I read a couple of Laker fans interacting, and they said Magic has ordered the TANK. And he even says if he was in charge he would welcome Kobe's help. The Lakers are so screwed.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-46, #1 on 2/13)
Post by: saltlover on February 16, 2017, 10:47:48 AM
Before we start celebrating take a peek back, the Lakers are in full TANK MODE.

I read a couple of Laker fans interacting, and they said Magic has ordered the TANK. And he even says if he was in charge he would welcome Kobe's help. The Lakers are so screwed.

The Lakers are welcome to do all they can for the #2 odds, but at this point, they could lose every game and the Nets still won't catch them.  No way is Brooklyn finishing the season on a 10-16 run.  After the break they immediately go on an 8-game trip out West.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-46, #1 on 2/13)
Post by: mef730 on February 16, 2017, 11:56:28 AM
Suns get win #18 tonight.  I thought Brooklyn had a real good shot at worst record this season, but I'd be lying if I thought that heading into the All-Star break they'd be at the bottom with only half the wins of the next closest team.  Pretty incredible.

I thought it would be the Suns, Nets and (somebody else) battling for the bottom spot. Never, in my wildest dreams, did I think they'd be 8.5 games back with 26 to go at the All-Star break.

Unless, of course, the winning streak starts when Jeremy Lin returns after the break. :)

Mike
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-47, #1 on 2/20)
Post by: jpotter33 on February 20, 2017, 01:09:46 AM
Well, it looks like the Kings will at least make things interesting for the Nets next year. They might even be the favorites for the worst team in the league next year at this point.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-46, #1 on 2/13)
Post by: trickybilly on February 20, 2017, 02:47:25 AM
Suns get win #18 tonight.  I thought Brooklyn had a real good shot at worst record this season, but I'd be lying if I thought that heading into the All-Star break they'd be at the bottom with only half the wins of the next closest team.  Pretty incredible.

I thought it would be the Suns, Nets and (somebody else) battling for the bottom spot. Never, in my wildest dreams, did I think they'd be 8.5 games back with 26 to go at the All-Star break.

Unless, of course, the winning streak starts when Jeremy Lin returns after the break. :)

Mike

Wow. IT'S ALL OVER (Joe Rogan)..

TP.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-45, #1 on 2/10)
Post by: Big333223 on February 20, 2017, 10:34:02 AM
I have read reports that Brooklyn is prepared to offer Otto Porter a max contract after the season.  He will help them but not significantly.
Probably a smart move from them. What if they tried to max out Porter and Ibaka? Would they come together on a team with Lopez and Lin? Could that work?

Why in the world would either Porter or Ibaka sign with BKN, though? They are just dreadful. Since Toronto just traded for Serge, it is likely they sign him to a pretty hefty deal. They can also offer a 5th year which is humongous with his age concerns.

With Porter, he is going to have several teams lined up to offer max or near max offers (including the Wiz). Assuming he wanted to leave, why wouldn't he choose a team like the Cs over BKN? A lot of things would have to really fall right for BKN to sign anybody of consequence. We saw how things went down this past off-season when they had loads of money to spend.

Porter's been third fiddle in Washington, he might like the opportunity to show he's capable of being the lead dog.  Of course, he's restricted, and Washington could match (although I'm on record as saying they won't if he's offered the max.)

Good point.  I don't think Brooklyn will be the only team offering Porter the max though.

There will be a large amount of teams offering Porter max money and the Wizards will match.
Maybe Porter wants to live in New York City and have a bigger role on his team. I don't think it's true but it wouldn't be the craziest thing to ever happen in the NBA.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-47, #1 on 2/20)
Post by: saltlover on February 20, 2017, 10:45:37 AM
Well, it looks like the Kings will at least make things interesting for the Nets next year. They might even be the favorites for the worst team in the league next year at this point.

Yet another reason to hope Cousins was holding that team back.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-47, #1 on 2/20)
Post by: Adelaide Celt on February 22, 2017, 08:20:44 PM
Brooklyn trading Bogdanovic and McCullough to Washington for Andrew Nicholson, Marcus Thornton and the Wizards' first round pick this year.

http://nba.nbcsports.com/2017/02/22/report-wizards-trade-first-round-pick-to-get-bojan-bogdanovic-and-chris-mccollough-unload-andrew-nicholson/ (http://nba.nbcsports.com/2017/02/22/report-wizards-trade-first-round-pick-to-get-bojan-bogdanovic-and-chris-mccollough-unload-andrew-nicholson/)
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-47, #1 on 2/20)
Post by: csfansince60s on February 22, 2017, 08:34:44 PM
I REALLY hope that this thread has relevance to us after 3p.m. Tomorrow.

Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-47, #1 on 2/20)
Post by: SHAQATTACK on February 22, 2017, 08:38:39 PM
I REALLY hope that this thread has relevance to us after 3p.m. Tomorrow.

I'm 99.9 % sure nothing is changing .....but Nets getting worse .
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-47, #1 on 2/20)
Post by: jambr380 on February 22, 2017, 08:49:03 PM
At this point, with the Nets so far and away the worst team, the NBA should just award us the #1 pick rather do the lottery. It just wouldn't be fair if another team (or teams) went ahead of us   :P
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-47, #1 on 2/20)
Post by: rondofan1255 on February 23, 2017, 03:33:19 PM
So... Lopez stays, Brooklyn receives a lottery protected WSH 1st (would be 24th pick if season ended today) for Bogdanovic, and they also acquired K.J. McDaniels.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-47, #1 on 2/20)
Post by: libermaniac on February 23, 2017, 03:36:21 PM
This thread lives on!!!  Any PG13 or Butler trade, and it would be RIP.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-47, #1 on 2/20)
Post by: Ogaju on February 24, 2017, 11:02:19 PM
and right on schedule the Nets do not disappoint.

Just give us the #1 pick now.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-47, #1 on 2/20)
Post by: Ogaju on February 24, 2017, 11:07:56 PM
Maybe the Nets can beat GSW tomorrow.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-47, #1 on 2/20)
Post by: mef730 on February 24, 2017, 11:15:22 PM
That's what I love about this thread. On a night when the Celtics can't put it together, I've always got the Nets to point at and laugh.

Mike
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-47, #1 on 2/20)
Post by: jdz101 on February 24, 2017, 11:47:23 PM
Maybe the Nets can beat GSW tomorrow.

https://youtu.be/zBkuNpgACH0 (https://youtu.be/zBkuNpgACH0)
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-47, #1 on 2/20)
Post by: jambr380 on February 24, 2017, 11:54:58 PM
That's what I love about this thread. On a night when the Celtics can't put it together, I've always got the Nets to point at and laugh.

Mike

True, but even now this thread is pretty useless. They are so far and away the worst team in the league that I don't even care that they lose every game now.

Don't get me wrong, I am happy to see them suffer (and us prosper), but you can't get worse than worst.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-47, #1 on 2/20)
Post by: Denis998 on February 25, 2017, 11:03:10 PM
Looks like Lin is back
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-47, #1 on 2/20)
Post by: hpantazo on February 25, 2017, 11:07:21 PM
Looks like Lin is back

Yep, but they moved Bogdanovic, so not much is going to change.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-47, #1 on 2/20)
Post by: Denis998 on February 25, 2017, 11:09:06 PM
Looks like Lin is back

Yep, but they moved Bogdanovic, so not much is going to change.
yeah probably so, Bogd was annoyingly good at times
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-47, #1 on 2/20)
Post by: Denis998 on February 26, 2017, 10:15:51 PM
If it wasn't for that 1 win against NOLA, Brooklyn wound have the longest loosing streak in NBA history with a few games to spare
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-47, #1 on 2/20)
Post by: max215 on February 26, 2017, 10:24:42 PM
If it wasn't for that 1 win against NOLA, Brooklyn wound have the longest loosing streak in NBA history with a few games to spare

Jesus. TP, that's crazy.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-47, #1 on 2/20)
Post by: mef730 on March 01, 2017, 10:56:23 PM
Sacramento is going to be a serious challenger to BKN next year. Good thing they have a 15-game lead already this year. They may not win again for the rest of the season.

Mike
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-47, #1 on 2/20)
Post by: Denis998 on March 02, 2017, 01:02:37 AM
Its nice not having to rage after a Brooklyn win for once
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-47, #1 on 2/20)
Post by: danglertx on March 02, 2017, 01:20:07 AM
The question is, has a team that was actually trying to win ever been this bad?  I don't think so.  They really can't even blame it on injuries this year. 
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-47, #1 on 2/20)
Post by: colincb on March 02, 2017, 01:50:05 AM
The question is, has a team that was actually trying to win ever been this bad?  I don't think so.  They really can't even blame it on injuries this year.

There have been worse teams if that's what you're asking. CHA in 2011-12 had the worst winning percentage of all-time, had a the worst record by 14 games over the next worst team, and had a net margin of -13.9 points. The 1973 Sixers were notoriously bad too.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (9-47, #1 on 2/20)
Post by: ImShakHeIsShaq on March 02, 2017, 03:13:46 AM
The question is, has a team that was actually trying to win ever been this bad?  I don't think so.  They really can't even blame it on injuries this year.

There have been worse teams if that's what you're asking. CHA in 2011-12 had the worst winning percentage of all-time, had a the worst record by 14 games over the next worst team, and had a net margin of -13.9 points. The 1973 Sixers were notoriously bad too.

You forgot the bold part. They are asking if there are other teams who were trying to win with no reason to tank that was as bad as they are. BKN has no reason whatsoever to try and lose but they find a way. If Sacto had the team they fielded tonight, the entire season (chemistry), they would probably beat BKN. They weren't far off tonight.

I have questioned many times this season why BKN looked as if the players and organization were trying to lose on purpose. I swear when they lose it's because they seem to find any and every way to snatch a loss from the jaws of victory. It's baffling at times.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (10-49, #1 on 3/1)
Post by: TheSundanceKid on March 02, 2017, 05:10:02 AM
See now, this is where I'm gonna miss LarBrd33. A Brooklyn win just isn't the same without him. Hope you come back soon brother..

I'm at the point where I find it difficult to cheer a Brooklyn loss (at least publicly). It's just such a wreck at the moment, you kinda have to feel bad for them
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (10-49, #1 on 3/1)
Post by: A Future of Stevens on March 02, 2017, 08:23:30 AM
See now, this is where I'm gonna miss LarBrd33. A Brooklyn win just isn't the same without him. Hope you come back soon brother..

I'm at the point where I find it difficult to cheer a Brooklyn loss (at least publicly). It's just such a wreck at the moment, you kinda have to feel bad for them

I miss his subtle reminder that it isn't too late for BRK to go on a run and make the playoffs, regardless of how miniscule the odds ;)

Come back Lar haha.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (11-52, #1 on 3/8)
Post by: hwangjini_1 on March 09, 2017, 01:19:04 AM
Ho hum. Nets lost again.

This is getting embarrassing. Can the NBA simply forfeit the remaining games for them and save everyone some time?
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (11-52, #1 on 3/8)
Post by: Ogaju on March 09, 2017, 01:25:28 AM
Ho hum. Nets lost again.

This is getting embarrassing. Can the NBA simply forfeit the remaining games for them and save everyone some time?

what would we do with this thread? Who did they play or should I say who did they not play against tonight.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (11-52, #1 on 3/8)
Post by: saltlover on March 09, 2017, 01:27:05 AM
Ho hum. Nets lost again.

This is getting embarrassing. Can the NBA simply forfeit the remaining games for them and save everyone some time?

what would we do with this thread? Who did they play or should I say who did they not play against tonight.

They played Atlanta relatively close, actually.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (11-52, #1 on 3/8)
Post by: Ogaju on March 09, 2017, 01:31:03 AM
Thanks..

Game over in Atlanta, Celtics win.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (11-52, #1 on 3/8)
Post by: mef730 on March 09, 2017, 04:20:15 PM
The magic number is 12!

Mike
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (11-52, #1 on 3/8)
Post by: Royrebirth on March 09, 2017, 04:54:55 PM
I think they're actually very much improved with Lin in the lineup...
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (11-52, #1 on 3/8)
Post by: SCeltic34 on March 09, 2017, 05:05:38 PM
It's comical that after Brooklyn's win over Memphis the other night nobody even cares.  Shows how fortunate we are because we don't even have to stress over whether Brooklyn will leapfrog anyone, even with about 20 games left to go.

I have a strange feeling that Danny is going to package the 2018 Nets pick for a great trade coming up.  Just a hunch.

Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (11-52, #1 on 3/8)
Post by: libermaniac on March 09, 2017, 05:20:45 PM
It's comical that after Brooklyn's win over Memphis the other night nobody even cares.  Shows how fortunate we are because we don't even have to stress over whether Brooklyn will leapfrog anyone, even with about 20 games left to go.

I miss this thread!   But, I'll take the lack of stress.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (11-52, #1 on 3/8)
Post by: mef730 on March 09, 2017, 05:30:25 PM
I think they're actually very much improved with Lin in the lineup...

Sadly, you seem to be correct, even though the sample size is quite small. It looks like they're going to get quite the challenge from Sacramento next year.

Mike
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (11-52, #1 on 3/8)
Post by: Emmette Bryant on March 09, 2017, 09:12:40 PM
https://sports.yahoo.com/news/kenny-atkinson-i-really-believe-that-i-have-to-pay-my-dues-and-its-great-184905654.html
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (11-52, #1 on 3/8)
Post by: jpotter33 on March 09, 2017, 09:34:58 PM
I think they're actually very much improved with Lin in the lineup...

Sadly, you seem to be correct, even though the sample size is quite small. It looks like they're going to get quite the challenge from Sacramento next year.

Mike

But the difference is Sacramento might actually get two top-7 picks in this draft, which could really help them next year.

I'm seeing Tatum and Ntilikina going to them at 6 and 7 right now, so they could have a really nice young core of Ntilikina, Hield, Tatum, Skal, and WCS. That alone should have them as good as Brooklyn, let alone their other vets.

Lopez is almost certainly traded this summer, too, so I think Brooklyn will still be the clear worst team in the league next season.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (11-52, #1 on 3/8)
Post by: TheSundanceKid on March 10, 2017, 05:19:55 AM
Lopez is the key, surely he goes in a draft night trade for a first round pick?

It's early to really debate their potential performance next year but given that this year is basically a done deal now... I wonder what they will do this summer? They will have the ability to throw money at RFAs this year again, which seems to be their best idea.

Perhaps they go for KO, he's a great big man for the new NBA and certainly fits their style of play. Mirotic is another guy in that vein. Jamychal Green or  Alex Len? Pickings are slim this year. This may also be a year when they absorb some contracts into cap space to get some extra picks, teams may look to create cap space to make a run at someone like Chris Paul or Blake Griffin if the Clippers go out in the first round again
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (11-52, #1 on 3/8)
Post by: trickybilly on March 10, 2017, 05:53:45 AM
Lopez is the key, surely he goes in a draft night trade for a first round pick?

It's early to really debate their potential performance next year but given that this year is basically a done deal now... I wonder what they will do this summer? They will have the ability to throw money at RFAs this year again, which seems to be their best idea.

Perhaps they go for KO, he's a great big man for the new NBA and certainly fits their style of play. Mirotic is another guy in that vein. Jamychal Green or  Alex Len? Pickings are slim this year. This may also be a year when they absorb some contracts into cap space to get some extra picks, teams may look to create cap space to make a run at someone like Chris Paul or Blake Griffin if the Clippers go out in the first round again

Agreed that is their best tactic..Who do you have in mind? Mozgov, Nick Young? Vucevic, Fournier?

Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (11-52, #1 on 3/8)
Post by: GreenShooter on March 10, 2017, 06:36:27 AM
Yes, it is early to talk about next year but it's probably a given, especially with the list of FA's this year, that we will have another top 4/5 pick. No way the Nets sign a couple of top FA's and they don't have any other assets to make themselves "better" next year. We'll be tracking the top prospects next year just like we've done for the past 2 years.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (11-52, #1 on 3/8)
Post by: slightly biased bias fan on March 10, 2017, 07:44:39 AM
I have a feeling Brooklyn is going to screw the whole league in restricted free agency by again offering huge deals to players undeserving of them, and a few teams are going to get burned...hopefully not Boston.

Also wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if Rose ended signing with Brooklyn this offseason on a short term deal, which could hurt our odds next season.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (11-52, #1 on 3/8)
Post by: A Future of Stevens on March 10, 2017, 07:46:07 AM
As long as they are a bottom 7 team, we get to have hope. I mean as long as the NBA isn't rigged, and the whole Cleveland thing happened, then anything is possible! Except we have much better odds haha.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (11-52, #1 on 3/8)
Post by: BitterJim on March 10, 2017, 08:16:17 AM
I have a feeling Brooklyn is going to screw the whole league in restricted free agency by again offering huge deals to players undeserving of them, and a few teams are going to get burned...hopefully not Boston.

Also wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if Rose ended signing with Brooklyn this offseason on a short term deal, which could hurt our odds next season.

I think they'll offer Otto Porter a max on the first day of FA and force the Wizards to match (unless the Wizards give a max qualifying offer).  After that, I can see them maybe going after Olynyk, but most of the RFAs that are good enough for the Nets to go after have already signed extensions (McCollum, Oladipo, Adams, Cody Zeller) or are definitely getting matched (Nerlens Noel, Mason Plumlee).

They could go after a guy like MCW or Burke, but I think they're better off going after guys like Jrue Holiday, Paul Millsap, and Danilo Gallinari (although I can't really see them getting any of them except maybe Holiday)
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (11-52, #1 on 3/8)
Post by: mef730 on March 10, 2017, 10:32:52 AM
I have a feeling Brooklyn is going to screw the whole league in restricted free agency by again offering huge deals to players undeserving of them, and a few teams are going to get burned...hopefully not Boston.

Also wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if Rose ended signing with Brooklyn this offseason on a short term deal, which could hurt our odds next season.

Agreed, although it makes no sense from a long-term point of view. Sign a bunch of them and you are a lousy team for the next 4-5 years with minimal ability to build. The best move would be what someone else mentioned: Take on some bad contracts in exchange for future draft picks. They might as well be the Cleveland Browns of the NBA.

Mike
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (11-52, #1 on 3/8)
Post by: Emmette Bryant on March 10, 2017, 11:35:26 AM
http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/18848217/all-backfires-how-brooklyn-nets-rebuilding-nothing
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (11-52, #1 on 3/8)
Post by: Boris Badenov on March 10, 2017, 11:47:17 AM
How many could have predicted that this would be the least eventful thread on CB by February?

Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (11-52, #1 on 3/8)
Post by: mef730 on March 10, 2017, 12:56:31 PM
How many could have predicted that this would be the least eventful thread on CB by February?

Especially with a Brook Lopez injury, albeit a minor one (sprained ankle, out against Dallas tonight).

Mike
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (10-49, #1 on 3/1)
Post by: mef730 on March 10, 2017, 01:10:19 PM
See now, this is where I'm gonna miss LarBrd33. A Brooklyn win just isn't the same without him. Hope you come back soon brother..

I'm at the point where I find it difficult to cheer a Brooklyn loss (at least publicly). It's just such a wreck at the moment, you kinda have to feel bad for them

I miss his subtle reminder that it isn't too late for BRK to go on a run and make the playoffs, regardless of how miniscule the odds ;)

Come back Lar haha.

Too late now! In case there was any question, BKN has officially been eliminated from the playoffs.

Mike
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (11-52, #1 on 3/8)
Post by: mef730 on March 12, 2017, 10:02:47 PM
A collective yawn from CB as Brooklyn beats New York. A new low for the Knicks.

BKN magic number down to ten.

Mike
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (11-52, #1 on 3/8)
Post by: trickybilly on March 12, 2017, 10:39:31 PM
64 days until the lottery. Let's get those voodoo dolls, worry beads, whatever, ready.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (11-52, #1 on 3/8)
Post by: hwangjini_1 on March 12, 2017, 10:58:53 PM
A collective yawn from CB as Brooklyn beats New York. A new low for the Knicks.

BKN magic number down to ten.

Mike
yes, a yawn. amazing isnt it? a few months ago such a win by the nets would have resulted in wide spread angst and agony throughout this blog. predictions about having a worthless pick would have blossomed like so many weeds.

yet here we sit, unfazed by such a victory. ours lives as celtic fans is indeed pretty good right now.  ;D
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (11-52, #1 on 3/8)
Post by: mef730 on March 13, 2017, 12:02:06 PM
A collective yawn from CB as Brooklyn beats New York. A new low for the Knicks.

BKN magic number down to ten.

Mike
yes, a yawn. amazing isnt it? a few months ago such a win by the nets would have resulted in wide spread angst and agony throughout this blog. predictions about having a worthless pick would have blossomed like so many weeds.

yet here we sit, unfazed by such a victory. ours lives as celtic fans is indeed pretty good right now.  ;D

(Mike looks up, nervously seeking out the shoe that will likely fall and hit him squarely in the forehead.)

Mike
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (12-53, #1 on 3/12)
Post by: Quetzalcoatl on March 13, 2017, 01:57:03 PM
The Nets have 12 wins (!) and 17 games remaining.  The Lakers have 20 wins as the next closest team.   So the Nets basically could go 9-8 over the remaining schedule and still give us the best lottery chances even if a 20-46 team loses the next 15 straight.  That is amazing.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (12-53, #1 on 3/12)
Post by: mef730 on March 15, 2017, 11:02:29 AM
And, in other news, the Nets lost.

Magic number now nine.

Mike
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (12-53, #1 on 3/12)
Post by: footey on March 15, 2017, 11:32:47 AM
Lakers have basically announced they are going to try to lose all of their remaining games. So assuming that they do, is it possible the Nets could go .500 and we lose the best lottery odds? Yes, of course it is.  We play them twice, and I must say those two games we should do everything possible to beat them.  Lakers have everything to gain to lose them all, while Nets have nothing to gain.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (12-53, #1 on 3/12)
Post by: libermaniac on March 15, 2017, 11:44:15 AM
Lakers have basically announced they are going to try to lose all of their remaining games. So assuming that they do, is it possible the Nets could go .500 and we lose the best lottery odds? Yes, of course it is.  We play them twice, and I must say those two games we should do everything possible to beat them.  Lakers have everything to gain to lose them all, while Nets have nothing to gain.
They've won 12 out of 66 and you are worried about 8 of 16?
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (12-53, #1 on 3/12)
Post by: makaveli on March 15, 2017, 11:54:44 AM
Lakers have basically announced they are going to try to lose all of their remaining games. So assuming that they do, is it possible the Nets could go .500 and we lose the best lottery odds? Yes, of course it is.  We play them twice, and I must say those two games we should do everything possible to beat them.  Lakers have everything to gain to lose them all, while Nets have nothing to gain.
They've won 12 out of 66 and you are worried about 8 of 16?
exactly, you almost made me look at the standings again. the nets are locked worst record
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (12-53, #1 on 3/12)
Post by: Big333223 on March 16, 2017, 09:14:32 AM
I'm going to the Nets game tomorrow.

If anyone is watching at home, look for the 3 white guys and 1 biracial girl in Celtic swag.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (12-53, #1 on 3/12)
Post by: mef730 on March 16, 2017, 09:28:24 AM
I'm going to the Nets game tomorrow.

If anyone is watching at home, look for the 3 white guys and 1 biracial girl in Celtic swag.

Shouldn't be that tough. You may be the only fans at the game.

Mike
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (12-53, #1 on 3/12)
Post by: Big333223 on March 16, 2017, 10:29:34 AM
I'm going to the Nets game tomorrow.

If anyone is watching at home, look for the 3 white guys and 1 biracial girl in Celtic swag.

Shouldn't be that tough. You may be the only fans at the game.

Mike
lol

If there's anyone else there at all, they'll probably be Celtic fans too.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (12-53, #1 on 3/12)
Post by: footey on March 16, 2017, 10:01:33 PM
Nets about to win again. Lakers still a threat to steal worst record. They will lose all their remaining games. Nets playing better, could see them finishing .500 over schedule balance.

Sure wish Isaiah was playing tomorrow.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (12-53, #1 on 3/12)
Post by: mef730 on March 16, 2017, 10:30:26 PM
Nets about to win again. Lakers still a threat to steal worst record. They will lose all their remaining games. Nets playing better, could see them finishing .500 over schedule balance.

Sure wish Isaiah was playing tomorrow.

I'm trying to reconcile my natural pessimism with the laws of math. I don't want to be too confident that the Nets have this thing locked up but, with the recognition that jinxes don't actually exist, I took a look at their remaining schedule. I can find seven or eight games where they have a reasonable chance of winning (Your definition of reasonable may be different from mine.), but that's still going to be tough and would have to be combined with the Lakers losing every game between here and the end of the year.

Naturally, the Lakers are likely going to be the underdogs in every one of those games, but that's different than actually losing every one of them. Assuming that the Lakers have only a 10% chance of winning in each of those games (almost ludicrously low), there would still only be a 23% chance that they would actually do so. If the Lakers have a 20% chance of winning in each of those games, the likelihood that they lose all of them is 4%.

I think that there's going to be more sweating over the next month than we would have anticipated a few weeks ago, but ultimately, the Nets should have the worst record. Which, needless to say, is also not equivalent to having the first draft pick.

Mike
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (12-53, #1 on 3/12)
Post by: Ogaju on March 16, 2017, 10:32:47 PM
I will not be surprised if the Lakers do not win another game this season. They have no shame.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (12-53, #1 on 3/12)
Post by: hwangjini_1 on March 16, 2017, 10:33:40 PM
Nets about to win again. Lakers still a threat extremely remote possibility to steal worst record. They will lose all their remaining games. Nets playing better, could see them finishing .500 over schedule balance.

Sure wish Isaiah was playing tomorrow.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (13-54, #1 on 3/16)
Post by: Smokeeye123 on March 16, 2017, 10:55:44 PM
Lowkey kind of worried about the nets catching the lakers. Their schedule is easy the rest of the way. We NEED to beat them tomorrow.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (13-54, #1 on 3/16)
Post by: Ogaju on March 16, 2017, 11:03:09 PM
we need to do ourselves a solid tomorrow and beat the Nets.

Nets have done more than their share, we need to contribute to the cause.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (13-54, #1 on 3/16)
Post by: Tr1boy on March 17, 2017, 08:43:35 AM
Nets pretty much to end up with the worst record unless they win all 8 games left and Lakers lose all of theirs

Hope the trend continues for the 2018 season  :laugh:
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (13-54, #1 on 3/16)
Post by: Ogaju on March 19, 2017, 12:36:15 PM
Nets off to a great start in Brooklyn.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (13-54, #1 on 3/16)
Post by: hwangjini_1 on March 19, 2017, 12:41:10 PM
Nets off to a great start in Brooklyn.
not no more!  ;D mavs up 32 to 26 at the end of the first quarter.

gooooooooo mavs!!!  ;D
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (13-54, #1 on 3/16)
Post by: Ogaju on March 19, 2017, 12:54:50 PM
Nets off to a great start in Brooklyn.
not no more!  ;D mavs up 32 to 26 at the end of the first quarter.

gooooooooo mavs!!!  ;D

Like I said sir, Nets off to a great start 8)

I should have added 'Go Celtics' to communicate the sarcasm.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (13-54, #1 on 3/16)
Post by: Ogaju on March 19, 2017, 12:57:53 PM
Jeremy Lin out with sprained left ankle. Sucks for the Lakers.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (13-54, #1 on 3/16)
Post by: TheGreenMonster on March 19, 2017, 01:11:11 PM
Nets behind by 14 at the half
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (13-54, #1 on 3/16)
Post by: Ogaju on March 19, 2017, 01:15:15 PM
Nets behind by 14 at the half

I like to look at that as Celtics ahead by 14 at the half in Brooklyn 8)
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (13-54, #1 on 3/16)
Post by: BringToughnessBack on March 19, 2017, 01:31:45 PM
Sorry to hear about Lin...talk about an injury magnet. Happy to hear that the horrible Nets are even worse without Lin....Go Celtics!
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (13-54, #1 on 3/16)
Post by: RockinRyA on March 19, 2017, 01:54:50 PM
Maybe the Lakers can beat Clev.. Nah its not happening  :(
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (13-54, #1 on 3/16)
Post by: Ogaju on March 19, 2017, 02:05:26 PM
Maybe the Lakers can beat Clev.. Nah its not happening  :(

Cavs deliberately took the night off yesterday against the Clippers so they could get the split today. Tanking
Lakers aint winning.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (13-54, #1 on 3/16)
Post by: Ogaju on March 19, 2017, 02:09:25 PM
why wont the Nets shut down Lopez. This is p---ing me off.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (13-54, #1 on 3/16)
Post by: Ogaju on March 19, 2017, 02:19:53 PM
JJ Barrea is a Celtic today. Nine straight dagger points for Dallas to get some daylight between Dallas and a surging Nets team.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (13-54, #1 on 3/16)
Post by: SHAQATTACK on March 19, 2017, 02:24:25 PM
why wont the Nets shut down Lopez. This is p---ing me off.


No tank to play for ......too stupid to realize he might get injured for NOTHInG .....and his trade value would drop to next to nothing .

Wearing your Star or asset out for nothing is poor business .
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (13-54, #1 on 3/16)
Post by: colincb on March 19, 2017, 02:25:12 PM
JJ Barrea is a Celtic today. Nine straight dagger points for Dallas to get some daylight between Dallas and a surging Nets team.

Surging Nets team?

Anyway,  down 6, 0:26 to go.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (13-54, #1 on 3/16)
Post by: Ogaju on March 19, 2017, 02:25:25 PM
what a game in Brooklyn.... Dallas with a 6 pt lead with about 26.6 seconds left.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (13-54, #1 on 3/16)
Post by: SHAQATTACK on March 19, 2017, 02:25:44 PM
Thank lord for Al .....
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (13-54, #1 on 3/16)
Post by: Ogaju on March 19, 2017, 02:27:37 PM
JJ Barrea is a Celtic today. Nine straight dagger points for Dallas to get some daylight between Dallas and a surging Nets team.

Surging Nets team?

Anyway,  down 6, 0:26 to go.

Yep, surging, cut a 17 point lead down to 2. That is surging.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (13-54, #1 on 3/16)
Post by: Ogaju on March 19, 2017, 02:32:08 PM
Game over in Brooklyn, Celtics win !!!
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (13-54, #1 on 3/16)
Post by: mef730 on March 20, 2017, 12:39:16 PM
Magic number is now 7.

That doesn't mean too much, I just needed a happy thread after that 76ers game.

Mike
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (13-54, #1 on 3/16)
Post by: chilidawg on March 20, 2017, 12:45:50 PM
Magic number is now 7.

That doesn't mean too much, I just needed a happy thread after that 76ers game.

Mike

At least we won the critical game of those two.  Magic number is 5 over Phoenix, 2 over Orlando and 1 for Philly.  Everyone else is eliminated from contention.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (13-54, #1 on 3/16)
Post by: colincb on March 20, 2017, 02:13:18 PM
Magic number is now 7.

That doesn't mean too much, I just needed a happy thread after that 76ers game.

Mike

At least we won the critical game of those two.  Magic number is 5 over Phoenix, 2 over Orlando and 1 for Philly.  Everyone else is eliminated from contention.

The magic numbers are 7, 5, and 2 for BKN to be eliminated from catching LAL, PHX, and ORL, respectively. Any combination of wins by those teams or losses by BKN reduces the magic number. If LAL with 20 wins were to lose all of its remaining games, BKN with 13 wins would not be able to catch them if they lost 7 games by going 6-7 over their last 13 games. The formula is:

Games in (NBA) season +1 - Wins from leading team (LAL, PHX, or ORL) - losses from trailing team (BKN).
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (13-54, #1 on 3/16)
Post by: chilidawg on March 20, 2017, 02:54:12 PM
Magic number is now 7.

That doesn't mean too much, I just needed a happy thread after that 76ers game.

Mike

At least we won the critical game of those two.  Magic number is 5 over Phoenix, 2 over Orlando and 1 for Philly.  Everyone else is eliminated from contention.

The magic numbers are 7, 5, and 2 for BKN to be eliminated from catching LAL, PHX, and ORL, respectively. Any combination of wins by those teams or losses by BKN reduces the magic number. If LAL with 20 wins were to lose all of its remaining games, BKN with 13 wins would not be able to catch them if they lost 7 games by going 6-7 over their last 13 games. The formula is:

Games in (NBA) season +1 - Wins from leading team (LAL, PHX, or ORL) - losses from trailing team (BKN).

Isn't that what I just said?
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (13-54, #1 on 3/16)
Post by: colincb on March 20, 2017, 03:14:03 PM
Magic number is now 7.

That doesn't mean too much, I just needed a happy thread after that 76ers game.

Mike

At least we won the critical game of those two.  Magic number is 5 over Phoenix, 2 over Orlando and 1 for Philly.  Everyone else is eliminated from contention.

The magic numbers are 7, 5, and 2 for BKN to be eliminated from catching LAL, PHX, and ORL, respectively. Any combination of wins by those teams or losses by BKN reduces the magic number. If LAL with 20 wins were to lose all of its remaining games, BKN with 13 wins would not be able to catch them if they lost 7 games by going 6-7 over their last 13 games. The formula is:

Games in (NBA) season +1 - Wins from leading team (LAL, PHX, or ORL) - losses from trailing team (BKN).

Isn't that what I just said?

Yes it is. I misunderstood what you were doing by excluding the magic number for the LAL.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (13-54, #1 on 3/16)
Post by: Emmette Bryant on March 20, 2017, 03:43:01 PM
Magic number is now 7.

That doesn't mean too much, I just needed a happy thread after that 76ers game.

Mike

At least we won the critical game of those two.  Magic number is 5 over Phoenix, 2 over Orlando and 1 for Philly.  Everyone else is eliminated from contention.

The magic numbers are 7, 5, and 2 for BKN to be eliminated from catching LAL, PHX, and ORL, respectively. Any combination of wins by those teams or losses by BKN reduces the magic number. If LAL with 20 wins were to lose all of its remaining games, BKN with 13 wins would not be able to catch them if they lost 7 games by going 6-7 over their last 13 games. The formula is:

Games in (NBA) season +1 - Wins from leading team (LAL, PHX, or ORL) - losses from trailing team (BKN).

Isn't that what I just said?

Yes it is. I misunderstood what you were doing by excluding the magic number for the LAL.

TP to both of you for being polite.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (13-54, #1 on 3/16)
Post by: A Future of Stevens on March 20, 2017, 04:00:10 PM
Magic number is now 7.

That doesn't mean too much, I just needed a happy thread after that 76ers game.

Mike

At least we won the critical game of those two.  Magic number is 5 over Phoenix, 2 over Orlando and 1 for Philly.  Everyone else is eliminated from contention.

The magic numbers are 7, 5, and 2 for BKN to be eliminated from catching LAL, PHX, and ORL, respectively. Any combination of wins by those teams or losses by BKN reduces the magic number. If LAL with 20 wins were to lose all of its remaining games, BKN with 13 wins would not be able to catch them if they lost 7 games by going 6-7 over their last 13 games. The formula is:

Games in (NBA) season +1 - Wins from leading team (LAL, PHX, or ORL) - losses from trailing team (BKN).

Isn't that what I just said?

Yes it is. I misunderstood what you were doing by excluding the magic number for the LAL.

TP to both of you for being polite.

See we arent all rabid hyenas foaming at the mouth to rip into others' fanboy statuses.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (13-54, #1 on 3/16)
Post by: chilidawg on March 20, 2017, 04:02:35 PM
Magic number is now 7.

That doesn't mean too much, I just needed a happy thread after that 76ers game.

Mike

At least we won the critical game of those two.  Magic number is 5 over Phoenix, 2 over Orlando and 1 for Philly.  Everyone else is eliminated from contention.

The magic numbers are 7, 5, and 2 for BKN to be eliminated from catching LAL, PHX, and ORL, respectively. Any combination of wins by those teams or losses by BKN reduces the magic number. If LAL with 20 wins were to lose all of its remaining games, BKN with 13 wins would not be able to catch them if they lost 7 games by going 6-7 over their last 13 games. The formula is:

Games in (NBA) season +1 - Wins from leading team (LAL, PHX, or ORL) - losses from trailing team (BKN).

Isn't that what I just said?

Yes it is. I misunderstood what you were doing by excluding the magic number for the LAL.

TP to both of you for being polite.

See we arent all rabid hyenas foaming at the mouth to rip into others' fanboy statuses.

I'm boring that way.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (13-54, #1 on 3/16)
Post by: Royrebirth on March 20, 2017, 05:06:06 PM
Lin is out for a while for the Nets. Always hate to see people injured – he makes a big difference for them.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (13-54, #1 on 3/16)
Post by: mef730 on March 21, 2017, 07:39:37 PM
Not that it matters for the draft pick but, for the first time in about a zillion weeks, the Nets are out of the cellar in the ESPN power rankings:

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/18959689/nba-power-rankings-marc-stein-week-22-rankings

The new winner? Our favorite team in purple and yellow.

Mike
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (13-54, #1 on 3/16)
Post by: SHAQATTACK on March 21, 2017, 08:30:00 PM
Detroit sucks .
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (13-54, #1 on 3/16)
Post by: moiso on March 21, 2017, 08:30:00 PM
Lin is out for a while for the Nets. Always hate to see people injured – he makes a big difference for them.
Seems like they suck with him and suck without him. 
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (13-54, #1 on 3/16)
Post by: SHAQATTACK on March 21, 2017, 08:32:17 PM
Nets keep on testing their luck and Lopez is gonna get hurt again.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (13-54, #1 on 3/16)
Post by: CelticSooner on March 21, 2017, 09:45:00 PM
I enjoy score watching Nets games lol they aren't catching the Lakers so it's all good.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (13-54, #1 on 3/16)
Post by: jambr380 on March 21, 2017, 09:47:00 PM
You've got to be kidding me - freakin' Brook Lopez...
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (13-54, #1 on 3/16)
Post by: Smokeeye123 on March 21, 2017, 09:49:05 PM
Nooooooooooooooooooo.

I'm hitting the panic button if they beat Phoenix Thursday.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (13-54, #1 on 3/16)
Post by: CelticSooner on March 21, 2017, 09:49:18 PM
Who hit the game winner?
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (13-54, #1 on 3/16)
Post by: Smokeeye123 on March 21, 2017, 09:56:19 PM
Who hit the game winner?

Lopez.

Stepping back to reality I think it's still very likely they still havethe worst record at the end of the season...The Lakers blew it up but to say they wont win at least one more game is pushing it no matter how hard they tank.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (13-54, #1 on 3/16)
Post by: Phantom255x on March 21, 2017, 10:17:02 PM
12 games to go.

Need the Nets to go below .500 this stretch, which would mean 19 wins (still worst in the league regardless what Lakers do).

Maybe the Lakers can end up winning a game and shock all of us?

Every game is important from here on out lol.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (14-56, #1 on 3/21)
Post by: footey on March 21, 2017, 11:34:41 PM
Lakers trailing 67-40. Don't count on their help.
Title: is it possible for nets
Post by: rollie mass on March 22, 2017, 07:44:42 AM
can the lakers challenge the nets for worst record-the nets are playing well while lakers are losing by huge margins
is it possible with number of games left
Title: Re: is it possible for nets
Post by: saltlover on March 22, 2017, 07:52:23 AM
1) No.
2) There are already several threads about this in the last week.
Title: Re: is it possible for nets
Post by: rollie mass on March 22, 2017, 08:12:25 AM
thanks that very good news -sorry for a repeat
Title: Re: is it possible for nets
Post by: Roy H. on March 22, 2017, 08:18:32 AM
Yes, there are enough games left for the Lakers to catch the Nets.
Title: Re: is it possible for nets
Post by: blackbird on March 22, 2017, 08:30:49 AM
I don't think the Lakers will win another game this year, and the Nets only have to go.500 for the rest of the season to tie their record.  Looking at the teams they play, it's definitely possible.
Title: Re: is it possible for nets
Post by: footey on March 22, 2017, 08:54:46 AM
It could get hairy. Lakers getting blown out while Nets fight tooth and nail. C'est la vie.
Title: Re: is it possible for nets
Post by: jbpats on March 22, 2017, 09:02:11 AM
Brought up the same topic last week and actually pointed out that Detroit was a game that the Nets could win and got chastised for it.
The Nets are fighting hard and playing a lot of teams that are throwing in the towel.. I still believe they finish with the worst record but it's definitely going to be a lot closer than any of us anticipated a month or so ago. It does help that glass Lin got injured again.

That being said I don't think it's the end of the world if the Lakers get the #1 pick (or at least the best odds for it), it hurts us if we wanted to trade the pick but I don't see anyway the Lakers don't take Ball who i'd think is #3 on Ainge's board right now. Also, I'd much rather see the Lakers have the pick then the 76ers. The 76ers are a much bigger threat to the Celtics of getting good quickly than the Lakers are, having yet another top 10 pick in Philly this season is not ideal.
Title: Re: is it possible for nets
Post by: Surferdad on March 22, 2017, 09:07:08 AM
The bigger question is whether LAL ends up top-3.  If not, they send the pick to Philly.  I really really don't want that to happen b/c a top-3 player in this draft plus Embiid/Saric/Simmons is a stronger youth core than the C's have now.

EDIT:
Quote
Also, I'd much rather see the Lakers have the pick then the 76ers. The 76ers are a much bigger threat to the Celtics of getting good quickly than the Lakers are, having yet another top 10 pick in Philly this season is not ideal.
Yes exactly jbpats.
Title: Re: is it possible for nets
Post by: hodgy03038 on March 22, 2017, 09:10:00 AM
A few days ago I wasn't worried. Now I am. After the Nets beat Detroit everything changes. They play them again plus there are many other winnable games. They play Detroit again, Chicago twice, Orlando twice, Phoenix and get this Philly twice. Philly could lose just to screw with us. I am worried because there is NO CHANCE of the Lakers winning another game even by accident based on who they play. Not a chance in hell.

Title: Re: is it possible for nets
Post by: jbpats on March 22, 2017, 09:12:55 AM
dupe
Title: Re: is it possible for nets
Post by: jbpats on March 22, 2017, 09:13:24 AM
A few days ago I wasn't worried. Now I am. After the Nets beat Detroit everything changes. They play them again plus there are many other winnable games. They play Detroit again, Chicago twice, Orlando twice, Phoenix and get this Philly twice. Philly could lose just to screw with us. I am worried because there is NO CHANCE of the Lakers winning another game even by accident based on who they play. Not a chance in hell.

Wouldn't it be in Philly's best interest to beat the Nets, they'd only be hurting their own odds by increasing LA's?
Title: Re: is it possible for nets
Post by: fairweatherfan on March 22, 2017, 09:14:53 AM
It's possible but it's incredibly unlikely. Wait until they get within 3 wins before getting nervous about it. And remember of course this is essentially for Ping-Pong balls and guarantees very little.
Title: Re: is it possible for nets
Post by: jbpats on March 22, 2017, 09:21:23 AM
It's possible but it's incredibly unlikely. Wait until they get within 3 wins before getting nervous about it. And remember of course this is essentially for Ping-Pong balls and guarantees very little.

"ping pong balls" the NBA needs to draw the balls live instead of having the folders pre-sealed with draft order.
Title: Re: is it possible for nets
Post by: CelticsFan166 on March 22, 2017, 09:34:23 AM
It's possible but it's incredibly unlikely. Wait until they get within 3 wins before getting nervous about it. And remember of course this is essentially for Ping-Pong balls and guarantees very little.

"ping pong balls" the NBA needs to draw the balls live instead of having the folders pre-sealed with draft order.

...but then they couldn't give their Lakers a top 2 pick every year!
Title: Re: is it possible for nets
Post by: footey on March 22, 2017, 09:59:14 AM
That being said I don't think it's the end of the world if the Lakers get the #1 pick (or at least the best odds for it), it hurts us if we wanted to trade the pick but I don't see anyway the Lakers don't take Ball who i'd think is #3 on Ainge's board right now. Also, I'd much rather see the Lakers have the pick then the 76ers. The 76ers are a much bigger threat to the Celtics of getting good quickly than the Lakers are, having yet another top 10 pick in Philly this season is not ideal.

But the real point is that if Nets don't finish worst, say second worst, instead of having nearly a 50% chance of top 2 pick and about a 66% chance of a top 3 pick (and this is becoming a draft with 3 No. 1 picks), and guaranteed no worse than a 4th pick, our percentage chances of getting top 2 or top 3 go down significantly, and we are only guaranteed a top 5 rather than a top 4, which could mean the difference between drafting Tatum (decent) vs. Isaac (project).
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (14-56, #1 on 3/21)
Post by: chambers on March 22, 2017, 10:21:44 AM
The Nets have won 14 out of 71 games.

Do people really believe they will win 6 out of the remaining 11 games?

All these teams like chicago, Philly, Suns, Orlando will be busting rheir asses to get a cherished win vs the Nets and will be licking their chops to get some stats before the end of the season.

Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (14-56, #1 on 3/21)
Post by: footey on March 22, 2017, 10:44:36 AM
The Nets have won 14 out of 71 games.

Do people really believe they will win 6 out of the remaining 11 games?

All these teams like chicago, Philly, Suns, Orlando will be busting rheir asses to get a cherished win vs the Nets and will be licking their chops to get some stats before the end of the season.

They are 4-6 their last ten games, so yes, I think they can win 6 out of their remaining 11 games.  Their more recent record is a better projector of how they will finish than their season record to date.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (14-56, #1 on 3/21)
Post by: Vox_Populi on March 22, 2017, 10:48:37 AM
It's worth pointing out, maybe, that Detroit are 1-4 the last three seasons in Brooklyn. It's just a bad match-up for them.
Title: Re: is it possible for nets
Post by: BitterJim on March 22, 2017, 10:55:26 AM
It's possible but it's incredibly unlikely. Wait until they get within 3 wins before getting nervous about it. And remember of course this is essentially for Ping-Pong balls and guarantees very little.

"ping pong balls" the NBA needs to draw the balls live instead of having the folders pre-sealed with draft order.

Why? So you can see them compare the combinations to a big list to see who's combo it is? And then, when a combo gets picked for a team that has already moved up in the lotto you can see them draw again? It'd not like the lotto drawing is done completely in secret; each team has a representative there to make sure it's happening fairly. Drawing them live wouldn't make it any more exciting or any harder to rig
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (14-56, #1 on 3/21)
Post by: BitterJim on March 22, 2017, 10:57:09 AM
The Nets have won 14 out of 71 games.

Do people really believe they will win 6 out of the remaining 11 games?

All these teams like chicago, Philly, Suns, Orlando will be busting rheir asses to get a cherished win vs the Nets and will be licking their chops to get some stats before the end of the season.

They are 4-6 their last ten games, so yes, I think they can win 6 out of their remaining 11 games.  Their more recent record is a better projector of how they will finish than their season record to date.

Their more recent record projects them winning 4.4 of their final 11 games. That's still a far cry from 6-5
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (14-56, #1 on 3/21)
Post by: Big333223 on March 22, 2017, 11:20:24 AM
The Nets have won 14 out of 71 games.

Do people really believe they will win 6 out of the remaining 11 games?

All these teams like chicago, Philly, Suns, Orlando will be busting rheir asses to get a cherished win vs the Nets and will be licking their chops to get some stats before the end of the season.

They are 4-6 their last ten games, so yes, I think they can win 6 out of their remaining 11 games.  Their more recent record is a better projector of how they will finish than their season record to date.

Their more recent record projects them winning 4.4 of their final 11 games. That's still a far cry from 6-5
And even if that happened, the Lakers would still have to finish 0-17 (they've got 11 left) for that to matter. Which might happen, the Lakers are tanking about as hard as anyone has ever tanked right now.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (14-56, #1 on 3/21)
Post by: saltlover on March 22, 2017, 11:29:09 AM
The Nets have won 14 out of 71 games.

Do people really believe they will win 6 out of the remaining 11 games?

All these teams like chicago, Philly, Suns, Orlando will be busting rheir asses to get a cherished win vs the Nets and will be licking their chops to get some stats before the end of the season.

They are 4-6 their last ten games, so yes, I think they can win 6 out of their remaining 11 games.  Their more recent record is a better projector of how they will finish than their season record to date.

Their more recent record projects them winning 4.4 of their final 11 games. That's still a far cry from 6-5
And even if that happened, the Lakers would still have to finish 0-17 (they've got 11 left) for that to matter. Which might happen, the Lakers are tanking about as hard as anyone has ever tanked right now.

I still think the Lakers back into a win before the season is done.  The inconsistent Timberwolves come to town on Friday, for example.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (14-56, #1 on 3/21)
Post by: BitterJim on March 22, 2017, 11:43:19 AM
The Nets have won 14 out of 71 games.

Do people really believe they will win 6 out of the remaining 11 games?

All these teams like chicago, Philly, Suns, Orlando will be busting rheir asses to get a cherished win vs the Nets and will be licking their chops to get some stats before the end of the season.

They are 4-6 their last ten games, so yes, I think they can win 6 out of their remaining 11 games.  Their more recent record is a better projector of how they will finish than their season record to date.

Their more recent record projects them winning 4.4 of their final 11 games. That's still a far cry from 6-5
And even if that happened, the Lakers would still have to finish 0-17 (they've got 11 left) for that to matter. Which might happen, the Lakers are tanking about as hard as anyone has ever tanked right now.

I still think the Lakers back into a win before the season is done.  The inconsistent Timberwolves come to town on Friday, for example.

Agreed.  Magic doesn't want the Lakers to win games, but those guys are still gonna be out there busting their balls.  They should sneak in a win or two before the season ends (especially since they host the Timberwolves twice, Sacramento once, and Portland once, plus will play in Minnesota)
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (14-56, #1 on 3/21)
Post by: 86MaxwellSmart on March 22, 2017, 12:06:25 PM
Any chance the Nets shut down Lopez-?

they did late last season.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (14-56, #1 on 3/21)
Post by: footey on March 22, 2017, 12:25:17 PM
The Nets have won 14 out of 71 games.

Do people really believe they will win 6 out of the remaining 11 games?

All these teams like chicago, Philly, Suns, Orlando will be busting rheir asses to get a cherished win vs the Nets and will be licking their chops to get some stats before the end of the season.

They are 4-6 their last ten games, so yes, I think they can win 6 out of their remaining 11 games.  Their more recent record is a better projector of how they will finish than their season record to date.

Their more recent record projects them winning 4.4 of their final 11 games. That's still a far cry from 6-5
And even if that happened, the Lakers would still have to finish 0-17 (they've got 11 left) for that to matter. Which might happen, the Lakers are tanking about as hard as anyone has ever tanked right now.

I still think the Lakers back into a win before the season is done.  The inconsistent Timberwolves come to town on Friday, for example.

Agreed.  Magic doesn't want the Lakers to win games, but those guys are still gonna be out there busting their balls.  They should sneak in a win or two before the season ends (especially since they host the Timberwolves twice, Sacramento once, and Portland once, plus will play in Minnesota)

The Clips hung up over 100 points the first three quarters last night vs. Lakers.  That's ball busting?
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (14-56, #1 on 3/21)
Post by: celticsclay on March 22, 2017, 12:38:40 PM
Any chance the Nets shut down Lopez-?

they did late last season.

If memory serves correct they shut down him and a healthy Thad Young with 7 games left int he season. That is in 4 more games?
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (14-56, #1 on 3/21)
Post by: celticsclay on March 22, 2017, 12:40:45 PM
The Nets have won 14 out of 71 games.

Do people really believe they will win 6 out of the remaining 11 games?

All these teams like chicago, Philly, Suns, Orlando will be busting rheir asses to get a cherished win vs the Nets and will be licking their chops to get some stats before the end of the season.

They are 4-6 their last ten games, so yes, I think they can win 6 out of their remaining 11 games.  Their more recent record is a better projector of how they will finish than their season record to date.

Their more recent record projects them winning 4.4 of their final 11 games. That's still a far cry from 6-5
And even if that happened, the Lakers would still have to finish 0-17 (they've got 11 left) for that to matter. Which might happen, the Lakers are tanking about as hard as anyone has ever tanked right now.

I still think the Lakers back into a win before the season is done.  The inconsistent Timberwolves come to town on Friday, for example.

Agreed.  Magic doesn't want the Lakers to win games, but those guys are still gonna be out there busting their balls.  They should sneak in a win or two before the season ends (especially since they host the Timberwolves twice, Sacramento once, and Portland once, plus will play in Minnesota)

The Clips hung up over 100 points the first three quarters last night vs. Lakers.  That's ball busting?

Yea they are definitely not playing well/trying right now (though their game with cleveland was very competitive).

However, a team like Sacramento is tanking every bit as hard as the Lakers and someone has to win that game.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (14-56, #1 on 3/21)
Post by: mef730 on March 22, 2017, 12:50:47 PM
A few days ago I wasn't worried. Now I am. After the Nets beat Detroit everything changes. They play them again plus there are many other winnable games. They play Detroit again, Chicago twice, Orlando twice, Phoenix and get this Philly twice. Philly could lose just to screw with us. I am worried because there is NO CHANCE of the Lakers winning another game even by accident based on who they play. Not a chance in hell.

A bit of an overstatement. Let's look at the math: Assume that the Lakers have only a 20% chance of winning each individual game (i.e., 20% chance of beating Minnesota, 20% chance of beating Memphis, 20% chance of beating the Clippers, etc.). There's only an 8.5% chance that they will lose every one of them. Even if the Lakers had only a 10% chance of winning each game, the chance that they would lose every one of them is only 31% chance. That's a long way from "not a chance in hell."

The Nets have won 14 out of 71 games.

Do people really believe they will win 6 out of the remaining 11 games?

All these teams like chicago, Philly, Suns, Orlando will be busting rheir asses to get a cherished win vs the Nets and will be licking their chops to get some stats before the end of the season.

Only a small nitpick, but they actually have 12 games remaining. Yes, I do think that there's a chance that they get hot and win half of them, but not much of one.

It's possible but it's incredibly unlikely. Wait until they get within 3 wins before getting nervous about it. And remember of course this is essentially for Ping-Pong balls and guarantees very little.

"ping pong balls" the NBA needs to draw the balls live instead of having the folders pre-sealed with draft order.

Why? So you can see them compare the combinations to a big list to see who's combo it is? And then, when a combo gets picked for a team that has already moved up in the lotto you can see them draw again? It'd not like the lotto drawing is done completely in secret; each team has a representative there to make sure it's happening fairly. Drawing them live wouldn't make it any more exciting or any harder to rig

Actually, I think that would be kind of cool. In a corner of the screen, they could show the changing odds for a team to get #1 as the picks are drawn, like ESPN does with poker. Of course, they'd never do it because people would change the channels as soon as the balls were drawn. Fewer commercials.

Any chance the Nets shut down Lopez-?

they did late last season.

One would hope so, but maybe their egos will get the better of them if they figure that they have a chance not to finish in last.

Mike
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (14-56, #1 on 3/21)
Post by: BitterJim on March 22, 2017, 01:06:03 PM
The Nets have won 14 out of 71 games.

Do people really believe they will win 6 out of the remaining 11 games?

All these teams like chicago, Philly, Suns, Orlando will be busting rheir asses to get a cherished win vs the Nets and will be licking their chops to get some stats before the end of the season.

They are 4-6 their last ten games, so yes, I think they can win 6 out of their remaining 11 games.  Their more recent record is a better projector of how they will finish than their season record to date.

Their more recent record projects them winning 4.4 of their final 11 games. That's still a far cry from 6-5
And even if that happened, the Lakers would still have to finish 0-17 (they've got 11 left) for that to matter. Which might happen, the Lakers are tanking about as hard as anyone has ever tanked right now.

I still think the Lakers back into a win before the season is done.  The inconsistent Timberwolves come to town on Friday, for example.

Agreed.  Magic doesn't want the Lakers to win games, but those guys are still gonna be out there busting their balls.  They should sneak in a win or two before the season ends (especially since they host the Timberwolves twice, Sacramento once, and Portland once, plus will play in Minnesota)

The Clips hung up over 100 points the first three quarters last night vs. Lakers.  That's ball busting?

Trying hard doesn't mean much when there's a large talent disparity, something that is also true with the Nets.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (14-56, #1 on 3/21)
Post by: hwangjini_1 on March 22, 2017, 01:14:03 PM
A few days ago I wasn't worried. Now I am. After the Nets beat Detroit everything changes. They play them again plus there are many other winnable games. They play Detroit again, Chicago twice, Orlando twice, Phoenix and get this Philly twice. Philly could lose just to screw with us. I am worried because there is NO CHANCE of the Lakers winning another game even by accident based on who they play. Not a chance in hell.

A bit of an overstatement. Let's look at the math: Assume that the Lakers have only a 20% chance of winning each individual game (i.e., 20% chance of beating Minnesota, 20% chance of beating Memphis, 20% chance of beating the Clippers, etc.). There's only an 8.5% chance that they will lose every one of them. Even if the Lakers had only a 10% chance of winning each game, the chance that they would lose every one of them is only 31% chance. That's a long way from "not a chance in hell."

The Nets have won 14 out of 71 games.

Do people really believe they will win 6 out of the remaining 11 games?

All these teams like chicago, Philly, Suns, Orlando will be busting rheir asses to get a cherished win vs the Nets and will be licking their chops to get some stats before the end of the season.

Only a small nitpick, but they actually have 12 games remaining. Yes, I do think that there's a chance that they get hot and win half of them, but not much of one.

It's possible but it's incredibly unlikely. Wait until they get within 3 wins before getting nervous about it. And remember of course this is essentially for Ping-Pong balls and guarantees very little.

"ping pong balls" the NBA needs to draw the balls live instead of having the folders pre-sealed with draft order.

Why? So you can see them compare the combinations to a big list to see who's combo it is? And then, when a combo gets picked for a team that has already moved up in the lotto you can see them draw again? It'd not like the lotto drawing is done completely in secret; each team has a representative there to make sure it's happening fairly. Drawing them live wouldn't make it any more exciting or any harder to rig

Actually, I think that would be kind of cool. In a corner of the screen, they could show the changing odds for a team to get #1 as the picks are drawn, like ESPN does with poker. Of course, they'd never do it because people would change the channels as soon as the balls were drawn. Fewer commercials.

Any chance the Nets shut down Lopez-?

they did late last season.

One would hope so, but maybe their egos will get the better of them if they figure that they have a chance not to finish in last.

Mike
where did you come up with this number of 20%? i dont see how the odds for winning any of these games would be that number or equal for each opponent.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (14-56, #1 on 3/21)
Post by: Big333223 on March 22, 2017, 08:45:34 PM
The Nets have won 14 out of 71 games.

Do people really believe they will win 6 out of the remaining 11 games?

All these teams like chicago, Philly, Suns, Orlando will be busting rheir asses to get a cherished win vs the Nets and will be licking their chops to get some stats before the end of the season.

They are 4-6 their last ten games, so yes, I think they can win 6 out of their remaining 11 games.  Their more recent record is a better projector of how they will finish than their season record to date.

Their more recent record projects them winning 4.4 of their final 11 games. That's still a far cry from 6-5
And even if that happened, the Lakers would still have to finish 0-17 (they've got 11 left) for that to matter. Which might happen, the Lakers are tanking about as hard as anyone has ever tanked right now.

I still think the Lakers back into a win before the season is done.  The inconsistent Timberwolves come to town on Friday, for example.

Agreed.  Magic doesn't want the Lakers to win games, but those guys are still gonna be out there busting their balls.  They should sneak in a win or two before the season ends (especially since they host the Timberwolves twice, Sacramento once, and Portland once, plus will play in Minnesota)

The Clips hung up over 100 points the first three quarters last night vs. Lakers.  That's ball busting?

Trying hard doesn't mean much when there's a large talent disparity, something that is also true with the Nets.
Yeah, and they've got young guys with talent that, if they get hot at the right time, could sneak past someone on an off night. Still, I wouldn't be surprised if this was LA's total for the season.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (14-56, #1 on 3/21)
Post by: mef730 on March 23, 2017, 10:38:54 AM
A few days ago I wasn't worried. Now I am. After the Nets beat Detroit everything changes. They play them again plus there are many other winnable games. They play Detroit again, Chicago twice, Orlando twice, Phoenix and get this Philly twice. Philly could lose just to screw with us. I am worried because there is NO CHANCE of the Lakers winning another game even by accident based on who they play. Not a chance in hell.

A bit of an overstatement. Let's look at the math: Assume that the Lakers have only a 20% chance of winning each individual game (i.e., 20% chance of beating Minnesota, 20% chance of beating Memphis, 20% chance of beating the Clippers, etc.). There's only an 8.5% chance that they will lose every one of them. Even if the Lakers had only a 10% chance of winning each game, the chance that they would lose every one of them is only 31% chance. That's a long way from "not a chance in hell."

The Nets have won 14 out of 71 games.

Do people really believe they will win 6 out of the remaining 11 games?

All these teams like chicago, Philly, Suns, Orlando will be busting rheir asses to get a cherished win vs the Nets and will be licking their chops to get some stats before the end of the season.

Only a small nitpick, but they actually have 12 games remaining. Yes, I do think that there's a chance that they get hot and win half of them, but not much of one.

It's possible but it's incredibly unlikely. Wait until they get within 3 wins before getting nervous about it. And remember of course this is essentially for Ping-Pong balls and guarantees very little.

"ping pong balls" the NBA needs to draw the balls live instead of having the folders pre-sealed with draft order.

Why? So you can see them compare the combinations to a big list to see who's combo it is? And then, when a combo gets picked for a team that has already moved up in the lotto you can see them draw again? It'd not like the lotto drawing is done completely in secret; each team has a representative there to make sure it's happening fairly. Drawing them live wouldn't make it any more exciting or any harder to rig

Actually, I think that would be kind of cool. In a corner of the screen, they could show the changing odds for a team to get #1 as the picks are drawn, like ESPN does with poker. Of course, they'd never do it because people would change the channels as soon as the balls were drawn. Fewer commercials.

Any chance the Nets shut down Lopez-?

they did late last season.

One would hope so, but maybe their egos will get the better of them if they figure that they have a chance not to finish in last.

Mike
where did you come up with this number of 20%? i dont see how the odds for winning any of these games would be that number or equal for each opponent.

I pulled it out of my cute little tuchus. Some will be higher, some will be lower. It was just an example. It was a quick glance at their schedule which said, "Hmm, they have about a 30% chance of winning this one, 15% of winning that one, etc." It has absolutely no scientific merit whatsoever, but rather, was a rebuttal to the previous comment that they have no chance of winning any games for the rest of the season. Mathematically, they will likely win one by accident.

Fun fact: If you gave the Lakers just a 6% chance of winning each game individually (an absurdly low number), the chance that they win a game between now and the end of the season is 50%.

Mike
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (14-56, #1 on 3/21)
Post by: hodgy03038 on March 23, 2017, 10:46:51 AM
There is ZERO PERCENT chance that the Lakers who are trying to lose can actually win any of the following games by accident. Absolute ZERO


Minnesota
Portland
Washington
@ Minnesota
@ Clippers
Memphis
San Antonio
Sacramento
Minnesota
New Orleans
Golden State

Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (14-56, #1 on 3/21)
Post by: mef730 on March 23, 2017, 10:52:40 AM
There is ZERO PERCENT chance that the Lakers who are trying to lose can actually win any of the following games by accident. Absolute ZERO


Minnesota
Portland
Washington
@ Minnesota
@ Clippers
Memphis
San Antonio
Sacramento
Minnesota
New Orleans
Golden State

I would happily engage in a friendly wager of 5 TPs that the Lakers win at least one of those games. The loser is responsible for coming back on each of five days to reward the winner.

Mike
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (14-56, #1 on 3/21)
Post by: saltlover on March 23, 2017, 10:56:03 AM
There is ZERO PERCENT chance that the Lakers who are trying to lose can actually win any of the following games by accident. Absolute ZERO


Minnesota
Portland
Washington
@ Minnesota
@ Clippers
Memphis
San Antonio
Sacramento
Minnesota
New Orleans
Golden State

Right, because the Kings are clearly focused on winning right now as opposed to making sure they don't have to give up their draft pick to Chicago, and Minnesota is an amazing team that is 100% guaranteed to beat the Lakers 3 times in the span of two weeks despite being effectively eliminated from playoff competition themselves.  And the Lakers players didn't just lead most of the game vs. Cleveland.

The Lakers players could care less about the draft pick who might come take their job.  They're out there trying to play to stay on an NBA roster next year, prove they're a starter, or play for a contract extension.  They're going to try to win, and odds are the shots will fall for them on a night when they're not falling for their opponent, if nothing else.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (14-56, #1 on 3/21)
Post by: hodgy03038 on March 23, 2017, 11:01:35 AM
There is ZERO PERCENT chance that the Lakers who are trying to lose can actually win any of the following games by accident. Absolute ZERO


Minnesota
Portland
Washington
@ Minnesota
@ Clippers
Memphis
San Antonio
Sacramento
Minnesota
New Orleans
Golden State

I would happily engage in a friendly wager of 5 TPs that the Lakers win at least one of those games. The loser is responsible for coming back on each of five days to reward the winner.

Mike

You are on! It's a win-win for me. If they win a game or more I win. If they lose them all like I expect I win tommy points!

Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (14-56, #1 on 3/21)
Post by: hodgy03038 on March 23, 2017, 11:05:23 AM
There is ZERO PERCENT chance that the Lakers who are trying to lose can actually win any of the following games by accident. Absolute ZERO


Minnesota
Portland
Washington
@ Minnesota
@ Clippers
Memphis
San Antonio
Sacramento
Minnesota
New Orleans
Golden State

Right, because the Kings are clearly focused on winning right now as opposed to making sure they don't have to give up their draft pick to Chicago, and Minnesota is an amazing team that is 100% guaranteed to beat the Lakers 3 times in the span of two weeks despite being effectively eliminated from playoff competition themselves.  And the Lakers players didn't just lead most of the game vs. Cleveland.

The Lakers players could care less about the draft pick who might come take their job.  They're out there trying to play to stay on an NBA roster next year, prove they're a starter, or play for a contract extension.  They're going to try to win, and odds are the shots will fall for them on a night when they're not falling for their opponent, if nothing else.

It's gonna happen. Are you saying the Lakers could or couldn't care less? Watch the Sacramento game which is probably the closest chance they have to stealing a game - they will REST D'Angelo Russell. If you want in on the tommy point bet I will honor it for you as well.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (14-56, #1 on 3/21)
Post by: mef730 on March 23, 2017, 11:15:57 AM
There is ZERO PERCENT chance that the Lakers who are trying to lose can actually win any of the following games by accident. Absolute ZERO


Minnesota
Portland
Washington
@ Minnesota
@ Clippers
Memphis
San Antonio
Sacramento
Minnesota
New Orleans
Golden State

Right, because the Kings are clearly focused on winning right now as opposed to making sure they don't have to give up their draft pick to Chicago, and Minnesota is an amazing team that is 100% guaranteed to beat the Lakers 3 times in the span of two weeks despite being effectively eliminated from playoff competition themselves.  And the Lakers players didn't just lead most of the game vs. Cleveland.

The Lakers players could care less about the draft pick who might come take their job.  They're out there trying to play to stay on an NBA roster next year, prove they're a starter, or play for a contract extension.  They're going to try to win, and odds are the shots will fall for them on a night when they're not falling for their opponent, if nothing else.

It's gonna happen. Are you saying the Lakers could or couldn't care less? Watch the Sacramento game which is probably the closest chance they have to stealing a game - they will REST D'Angelo Russell. If you want in on the tommy point bet I will honor it for you as well.

:)

One TP in advance for optimism. And because that's the only one you're gonna get. ;)

Mike
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (14-56, #1 on 3/21)
Post by: saltlover on March 23, 2017, 11:19:05 AM
There is ZERO PERCENT chance that the Lakers who are trying to lose can actually win any of the following games by accident. Absolute ZERO


Minnesota
Portland
Washington
@ Minnesota
@ Clippers
Memphis
San Antonio
Sacramento
Minnesota
New Orleans
Golden State

Right, because the Kings are clearly focused on winning right now as opposed to making sure they don't have to give up their draft pick to Chicago, and Minnesota is an amazing team that is 100% guaranteed to beat the Lakers 3 times in the span of two weeks despite being effectively eliminated from playoff competition themselves.  And the Lakers players didn't just lead most of the game vs. Cleveland.

The Lakers players could care less about the draft pick who might come take their job.  They're out there trying to play to stay on an NBA roster next year, prove they're a starter, or play for a contract extension.  They're going to try to win, and odds are the shots will fall for them on a night when they're not falling for their opponent, if nothing else.

It's gonna happen. Are you saying the Lakers could or couldn't care less? Watch the Sacramento game which is probably the closest chance they have to stealing a game - they will REST D'Angelo Russell. If you want in on the tommy point bet I will honor it for you as well.

I'm saying the Lakers players still have incentive to win, no matter who's on the court.  Players have individual motivations, and don't care about the draft pick.  Management can't bench everyone.

I only do TP bets where the points going to the winner come from the loser's total, but I don't care enough about this issue to trouble a mod.  If you're right, I'll give you a TP.  You are under no obligation to return the reward.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (14-56, #1 on 3/21)
Post by: chambers on March 23, 2017, 07:59:28 PM
Phoenix destroying Brooklyn early on.

Will be nice to see the nail in the coffin in the Net's efforts to get out of the worst record.

Currently 2 of 11 three point attempts in the 1st quarter.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (14-56, #1 on 3/21)
Post by: MattyIce on March 23, 2017, 08:08:53 PM
Phoenix destroying Brooklyn early on.

Will be nice to see the nail in the coffin in the Net's efforts to get out of the worst record.

Currently 2 of 11 three point attempts in the 1st quarter.
  :(
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (14-56, #1 on 3/21)
Post by: tazzmaniac on March 23, 2017, 08:14:24 PM
There is ZERO PERCENT chance that the Lakers who are trying to lose can actually win any of the following games by accident. Absolute ZERO


Minnesota
Portland
Washington
@ Minnesota
@ Clippers
Memphis
San Antonio
Sacramento
Minnesota
New Orleans
Golden State
If Golden State has 1st place locked up, they'll sit their starters for that last game. 
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (14-56, #1 on 3/21)
Post by: KG Living Legend on March 23, 2017, 08:14:50 PM

 34 to 32 now.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (14-56, #1 on 3/21)
Post by: MattyIce on March 23, 2017, 08:15:53 PM
There is ZERO PERCENT chance that the Lakers who are trying to lose can actually win any of the following games by accident. Absolute ZERO


Minnesota
Portland
Washington
@ Minnesota
@ Clippers
Memphis
San Antonio
Sacramento
Minnesota
New Orleans
Golden State
If Golden State has 1st place locked up, they'll sit their starters for that last game.

if THATS the situation lakers are in. that one win on the final day would boot them out of the bottom slot, the will forfeit the game before winning
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (14-56, #1 on 3/21)
Post by: Phantom255x on March 23, 2017, 08:50:03 PM
Uh oh, Brooklyn up 52-50 at halftime.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (14-56, #1 on 3/21)
Post by: Ilikesports17 on March 23, 2017, 08:52:45 PM
There is ZERO PERCENT chance that the Lakers who are trying to lose can actually win any of the following games by accident. Absolute ZERO


Minnesota
Portland
Washington
@ Minnesota
@ Clippers
Memphis
San Antonio
Sacramento
Minnesota
New Orleans
Golden State
hate to be that guy, but there is a nonzero chance that they win each game.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (14-56, #1 on 3/21)
Post by: CelticSooner on March 23, 2017, 09:03:05 PM
Maybe against the Kings but they may not win another game they are that terrible.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (14-56, #1 on 3/21)
Post by: SHAQATTACK on March 23, 2017, 09:19:32 PM
Nets gonna win at home against these suck teams .
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (12-53, #1 on 3/12)
Post by: MattyIce on March 23, 2017, 09:25:18 PM
Lakers have basically announced they are going to try to lose all of their remaining games. So assuming that they do, is it possible the Nets could go .500 and we lose the best lottery odds? Yes, of course it is.  We play them twice, and I must say those two games we should do everything possible to beat them.  Lakers have everything to gain to lose them all, while Nets have nothing to gain.
They've won 12 out of 66 and you are worried about 8 of 16?

YUP
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (14-56, #1 on 3/21)
Post by: SHAQATTACK on March 23, 2017, 09:29:08 PM
I don 't know how many games away the have left .  But those will all be Losses.   

Issue is some teams rest guys before playoffs if they are not playing for anything .   So there's that angle too.

Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (14-56, #1 on 3/21)
Post by: tazzmaniac on March 23, 2017, 09:35:31 PM
I don 't know how many games away the have left .  But those will all be Losses.   

Issue is some teams rest guys before playoffs if they are not playing for anything .   So there's that angle too.
The Nets have 7 more road games but two of those are against the Sixers and Magic.  They also have two home games against the Sixers and Magic. 
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (14-56, #1 on 3/21)
Post by: jakeopp on March 23, 2017, 09:54:07 PM
Lakers are going to lose out in all likelihood. Nets have a good chance to beat the Magic 2x, they can beat the Sixers, they'll play the Bulls 2x after their season could be over (If Chicago keeps losing like they have been lately, they'll be eliminated & won't care at this point). They also play the Pistons who they've beat 2x already this year.

Reason for concern? You bet.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (14-56, #1 on 3/21)
Post by: Smokeeye123 on March 23, 2017, 10:04:04 PM
I don 't know how many games away the have left .  But those will all be Losses.   

Issue is some teams rest guys before playoffs if they are not playing for anything .   So there's that angle too.
The Nets have 7 more road games but two of those are against the Sixers and Magic.  They also have two home games against the Sixers and Magic.

76ers are competing. They should at worst split the next two against the Nets. Pistons are vying for the 8th seed and have no reason to not try as hard as possible to win. Magic is a toss up but even they arent outright tanking like the lakers or suns.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (14-56, #1 on 3/21)
Post by: SparzWizard on March 23, 2017, 10:51:46 PM
Would suck if the Lakers snatch away the #1 pick from us.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (14-56, #1 on 3/21)
Post by: SparzWizard on March 23, 2017, 10:53:02 PM
Lakers are going to lose out in all likelihood. Nets have a good chance to beat the Magic 2x, they can beat the Sixers, they'll play the Bulls 2x after their season could be over (If Chicago keeps losing like they have been lately, they'll be eliminated & won't care at this point). They also play the Pistons who they've beat 2x already this year.

Reason for concern? You bet.

Should've traded the pick when Danny had the chance.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (15-56, #1 on 3/23)
Post by: footey on March 24, 2017, 12:11:09 AM
Brooklyn just blew out PHX by 28.

Uh oh.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (14-56, #1 on 3/21)
Post by: Somebody on March 24, 2017, 12:51:14 AM
Would suck if the Lakers snatch away the #1 pick from us.
They're getting the number 1 pick, we're only hoping the odds save us from getting screwed again (if the nets are dead last we'd at least be guaranteed a top 4 pick while if they catch the lakers I bet we'll get the 5th pick ala 07)
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (15-56, #1 on 3/23)
Post by: chambers on March 24, 2017, 01:11:49 AM
Brooklyn just blew out PHX by 28.

Uh oh.

Wow i watched the 1st quarter and the Suns were up by 15 points! A 43 point swing must mean they went on a rage from 3 point land.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (14-56, #1 on 3/21)
Post by: chambers on March 24, 2017, 01:16:05 AM
Lakers are going to lose out in all likelihood. Nets have a good chance to beat the Magic 2x, they can beat the Sixers, they'll play the Bulls 2x after their season could be over (If Chicago keeps losing like they have been lately, they'll be eliminated & won't care at this point). They also play the Pistons who they've beat 2x already this year.

Reason for concern? You bet.

Should've traded the pick when Danny had the chance.

He will still have the chance. One of Chicago or Indiana or LAC will want that pick regardless of whether its 1,2 or 3.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (15-56, #1 on 3/23)
Post by: saltlover on March 24, 2017, 01:18:59 AM
Brooklyn just blew out PHX by 28.

Uh oh.

Wow i watched the 1st quarter and the Suns were up by 15 points! A 43 point swing must mean they went on a rage from 3 point land.

Nope.  8-29 from 3 for the game.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (15-56, #1 on 3/23)
Post by: Rida on March 24, 2017, 01:57:36 AM
oh no, please don't tell me this is happening.

Silver is dying to give the lakers the number one pick
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (15-56, #1 on 3/23)
Post by: The One on March 24, 2017, 05:40:15 AM
The Nets will lose the next three.


Fear not...
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (15-56, #1 on 3/23)
Post by: Somebody on March 24, 2017, 07:34:30 AM
oh no, please don't tell me this is happening.

Silver is dying to give the lakers the number one pick
Well as long as we get second we're getting our guy Fultz
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (15-56, #1 on 3/23)
Post by: GreenShooter on March 24, 2017, 09:36:15 AM
The Nets could shut down Lopez, like they did last year,  for the rest of the season pretty soon. But I don't see them shutting down anyone else. Maybe Danny can send them Cleveland's 2nd rounder this year to tank a couple of the winnable games.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (15-56, #1 on 3/23)
Post by: GreenShooter on March 24, 2017, 09:38:58 AM
oh no, please don't tell me this is happening.

Silver is dying to give the lakers the number one pick
Well as long as we get second we're getting our guy Fultz
LA would be pretty dumb to pick Ball over Fultz but I could see it happening. No other team in the lottery would pick Ball over Fultz. I think Fultz is that much better than Ball and he'll be a consensus no. 1 come draft time.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (14-56, #1 on 3/21)
Post by: mef730 on March 24, 2017, 11:19:03 AM
Would suck if the Lakers snatch away the #1 pick from us.

I would love it if the Lakers finished as the worst team and ended up with the fourth pick.

Fun fact, Wins in March:

Golden State: 7
Brooklyn: 6
Cleveland: 5

Mike
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (15-56, #1 on 3/23)
Post by: hpantazo on March 24, 2017, 11:21:01 AM
I personally don't care if we end up with the second worst record. It is unlikely that the team with the worst record will land the #1 pick in the lottery again this year.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (14-56, #1 on 3/21)
Post by: Surferdad on March 24, 2017, 11:23:25 AM
Would suck if the Lakers snatch away the #1 pick from us.

I would love it if the Lakers finished as the worst team and ended up with the fourth pick.

Fun fact, Wins in March:

Golden State: 7
Brooklyn: 6
Cleveland: 5

Mike
Think this through.  In that case, Philly gets 2 lottery picks right?  Add them to Simmons/Saric/Embiid and that is an incredible young core right in our own conference.  Much as I hate the Lakers, I think I would prefer if their pick is top-3 and they get to use it.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (15-56, #1 on 3/23)
Post by: mef730 on March 24, 2017, 11:48:47 AM
I personally don't care if we end up with the second worst record. It is unlikely that the team with the worst record will land the #1 pick in the lottery again this year.

It's no more likely or unlikely than it is in any other year. I'm still hoping for the Nets to have the worst record.

Mike
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (15-56, #1 on 3/23)
Post by: slamtheking on March 24, 2017, 12:36:46 PM
still not worried.  nets have to go 5-6 in their last 11 games just to catch the Lakers and that's if the Lakers close out the season with a 17-game losing streak.  just don't see that happening.  Lakers still have several very winnable games left on their schedule.  Nets have a lot of teams fighting for either playoff spots or respectability on their schedule.  most likely winnable games they have left are 2 each against Philly (who are actually playing to win this year) and Orlando.  all others are teams are either fighting for playoffs or jockeying for better seeds in the playoffs.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (15-56, #1 on 3/23)
Post by: A Future of Stevens on March 24, 2017, 01:56:34 PM
Going to the Wiz Nets tonight, lets get it boys and girls.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (15-56, #1 on 3/23)
Post by: Evantime34 on March 24, 2017, 02:11:10 PM
Going to the Wiz Nets tonight, lets get it boys and girls.
If the Nets beat the Wiz tonight I'll start deciding who I would want us to draft at 5 in a worst case scenario (probably Monk or Markannen)
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (15-56, #1 on 3/23)
Post by: SHAQATTACK on March 24, 2017, 02:26:38 PM
still not worried.  nets have to go 5-6 in their last 11 games just to catch the Lakers and that's if the Lakers close out the season with a 17-game losing streak.  just don't see that happening.  Lakers still have several very winnable games left on their schedule.  Nets have a lot of teams fighting for either playoff spots or respectability on their schedule.  most likely winnable games they have left are 2 each against Philly (who are actually playing to win this year) and Orlando.  all others are teams are either fighting for playoffs or jockeying for better seeds in the playoffs.

That 0-17 I is why ....old lady Buss fired Mitch and Jim Buss to DO exactly that .....the former would not have tanked to the point of total embarrassment.  The woman thinks it's her destiny to fill her daddy shoes .  ::)   On the other hand creepy Magic Johnson has been bad mouth n Mitch and Jim FOR YEArS .....he wanted to totally tank out ...like Philly.     First thing they did was tell their vets to go home.,  forget winning totally this year .  ......what hunk of dog doo.

Lakers have ZERO intention of winning any game ...period .   They would drop a game to the Celtics cheerleaders ....  the Lakers team is just shooting practice for their 20 year olds.   .....till they can get Ball and Paul George.   
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (15-56, #1 on 3/23)
Post by: Evantime34 on March 24, 2017, 02:42:00 PM
still not worried.  nets have to go 5-6 in their last 11 games just to catch the Lakers and that's if the Lakers close out the season with a 17-game losing streak.  just don't see that happening.  Lakers still have several very winnable games left on their schedule.  Nets have a lot of teams fighting for either playoff spots or respectability on their schedule.  most likely winnable games they have left are 2 each against Philly (who are actually playing to win this year) and Orlando.  all others are teams are either fighting for playoffs or jockeying for better seeds in the playoffs.

That 0-17 I is why ....old lady Buss fired Mitch and Jim Buss to DO exactly that .....the former would not have tanked to the point of total embarrassment.  The woman thinks it's her destiny to fill her daddy shoes .  ::)   On the other hand creepy Magic Johnson has been bad mouth n Mitch and Jim FOR YEArS .....he wanted to totally tank out ...like Philly.     First thing they did was tell their vets to go home.,  forget winning totally this year .  ......what hunk of dog doo.

Lakers have ZERO intention of winning any game ...period .   They would drop a game to the Celtics cheerleaders ....  the Lakers team is just shooting practice for their 20 year olds.   .....till they can get Ball and Paul George.   
I don't think they fired Mitch because she wanted to tank. It seems like they fired Mitch because he wasn't able to trade for Cousins.

Zach Lowe and Ramona Shelburne talked about it on his most recent podcast.

I think Jeanie did the right thing, the Lakers haven't improved in a while, haven't been able to sign good quality free agents and blew all their money on Mozgov and Deng.

Agreed that they are not trying to win, if there pick lands outside the top 3 they lose it to the Sixers.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (15-56, #1 on 3/23)
Post by: PhoSita on March 24, 2017, 02:49:59 PM
Securing the worst record in the league is important because the top 4 of this draft is stacked.

Fultz, Ball, Jackson, Tatum, I really don't think you can go wrong.

I'm not too worried.  The Nets were bad enough to get to this point, they won't win enough games to pull ahead of the Lakers.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (15-56, #1 on 3/23)
Post by: bdm860 on March 24, 2017, 03:21:00 PM
I think Jeanie did the right thing, the Lakers haven't improved in a while, haven't been able to sign good quality free agents and blew all their money on Mozgov and Deng.

I think this is something interesting to think about, how bad of a job he did with the Lakers the last few years.  Or at least how much of the aura and magic of the Lakers is gone, or what the expectation is for the Lakers.

Since they moved to LA, they missed the playoffs 4 times total, and never had more than 2 losing seasons in a row in 50+ something years before this current stretch.

Now they're looking at 4 straight losing season where they miss the playoffs.  And we're not just talking about about 4 losing seasons, but the 4 worst seasons in LA Laker history.

Even with Kobe's ridiculous contract extension, did anybody predict 4 straight years of this crap?

At least 3 GMs didn't, as LA traded that protected 2015 first away for Nash in 2012.  You just know they thought that pick never had a chance of landing in the lottery, might as well have been a 2nd rounder.  They're the mighty Lakers.  (Ya know similar to how Brooklyn thought  ;)).

Then in 2015, Phoenix traded it away for Brandon Knight, and Milwaukee apparently would rather have Michael Carter Williams than that pick.  And who knew if Hinkie even thought the pick would be this good, or was he just happy to get any first rounder to tank a few more games (and because MCW isn't that good).  So even in 2015 when the Lakers sucked, it seems like both Phoenix and Milwaukee both thought, "ya they suck this year, but that pick won't be valuable next year when they turn things around."

Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (15-56, #1 on 3/23)
Post by: slamtheking on March 24, 2017, 03:59:42 PM
still not worried.  nets have to go 5-6 in their last 11 games just to catch the Lakers and that's if the Lakers close out the season with a 17-game losing streak.  just don't see that happening.  Lakers still have several very winnable games left on their schedule.  Nets have a lot of teams fighting for either playoff spots or respectability on their schedule.  most likely winnable games they have left are 2 each against Philly (who are actually playing to win this year) and Orlando.  all others are teams are either fighting for playoffs or jockeying for better seeds in the playoffs.

That 0-17 I is why ....old lady Buss fired Mitch and Jim Buss to DO exactly that .....the former would not have tanked to the point of total embarrassment.  The woman thinks it's her destiny to fill her daddy shoes .  ::)   On the other hand creepy Magic Johnson has been bad mouth n Mitch and Jim FOR YEArS .....he wanted to totally tank out ...like Philly.     First thing they did was tell their vets to go home.,  forget winning totally this year .  ......what hunk of dog doo.

Lakers have ZERO intention of winning any game ...period .   They would drop a game to the Celtics cheerleaders ....  the Lakers team is just shooting practice for their 20 year olds.   .....till they can get Ball and Paul George.   
Lakers are not going to close out the season with a 17-game losing streak.  they'll still win 1-2 games.  enough to keep the Nets as worst record
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (15-56, #1 on 3/23)
Post by: SparzWizard on March 24, 2017, 04:19:23 PM
Going to the Wiz Nets tonight, lets get it boys and girls.

I need the Wizards to win tonight. Got to think long-term over a simple playoff position preference.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (15-56, #1 on 3/23)
Post by: A Future of Stevens on March 24, 2017, 05:14:25 PM
Going to the Wiz Nets tonight, lets get it boys and girls.

I need the Wizards to win tonight. Got to think long-term over a simple playoff position preference.

Of course. Im going to be rooting hard for the Wiz. A win keeps them on pace with us, a loss could possibly mess with us for years to come.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (15-56, #1 on 3/23)
Post by: smokeablount on March 24, 2017, 05:45:07 PM
These garbage Nets scrubs had better not suck horribly all year only to get hot in the last 20 games and ruin everything for the rest of us. That would be a typical Celtics draft lottery massacre and I demand restitution for devastating past history, not for it to repeat itself. Brief rant over, Smokeablount out.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (15-56, #1 on 3/23)
Post by: tazzmaniac on March 24, 2017, 05:55:32 PM
I personally don't care if we end up with the second worst record. It is unlikely that the team with the worst record will land the #1 pick in the lottery again this year.
The odds are the same every year.  25% chance for the worst record. 
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (15-56, #1 on 3/23)
Post by: 86MaxwellSmart on March 24, 2017, 05:59:48 PM
still not worried.  nets have to go 5-6 in their last 11 games just to catch the Lakers and that's if the Lakers close out the season with a 17-game losing streak.  just don't see that happening.  Lakers still have several very winnable games left on their schedule.  Nets have a lot of teams fighting for either playoff spots or respectability on their schedule.  most likely winnable games they have left are 2 each against Philly (who are actually playing to win this year) and Orlando.  all others are teams are either fighting for playoffs or jockeying for better seeds in the playoffs.

That 0-17 I is why ....old lady Buss fired Mitch and Jim Buss to DO exactly that .....the former would not have tanked to the point of total embarrassment.  The woman thinks it's her destiny to fill her daddy shoes .  ::)   On the other hand creepy Magic Johnson has been bad mouth n Mitch and Jim FOR YEArS .....he wanted to totally tank out ...like Philly.     First thing they did was tell their vets to go home.,  forget winning totally this year .  ......what hunk of dog doo.

Lakers have ZERO intention of winning any game ...period .   They would drop a game to the Celtics cheerleaders ....  the Lakers team is just shooting practice for their 20 year olds.   .....till they can get Ball and Paul George.   
Lakers are not going to close out the season with a 17-game losing streak.  they'll still win 1-2 games.  enough to keep the Nets as worst record

I disagree---the Lakers are doing everything to LOSE every game...If they do happen to win a game, someone's in big trouble with Magic and Jeanie.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (15-56, #1 on 3/23)
Post by: BringToughnessBack on March 24, 2017, 06:11:41 PM
Only on a Boston blog where the lingering effect of years of Sox devastation still penetrate the minds of so many with the sky is falling mentality. We are actually complaining that we have a 5 game lead over the lakers for the best odds at a draft pick that was gifted to us by Danny's brilliance. 

Even if the Lakers did lose out and the Nets suddenly figure out to win on the road,  it only drops our odds at the number one pick by a few points and yes, I know, we can end up with 5th spot instead of 4th in a loaded draft. Wow, life is tough for us Celtics fans

Screams of Danny should have traded the pick are beyond funny to me....Yes, if only we would have gotten rid of the 1st this year, and next year plus Brown and Smart or Crowder for Butler or George... ::) ;D   Too funny...sky is falling...please save us poor unfortunate fans....
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (15-56, #1 on 3/23)
Post by: smokeablount on March 24, 2017, 06:40:06 PM
Only on a Boston blog where the lingering effect of years of Sox devastation still penetrate the minds of so many with the sky is falling mentality. We are actually complaining that we have a 5 game lead over the lakers for the best odds at a draft pick that was gifted to us by Danny's brilliance. 

Even if the Lakers did lose out and the Nets suddenly figure out to win on the road,  it only drops our odds at the number one pick by a few points and yes, I know, we can end up with 5th spot instead of 4th in a loaded draft. Wow, life is tough for us Celtics fans

Screams of Danny should have traded the pick are beyond funny to me....Yes, if only we would have gotten rid of the 1st this year, and next year plus Brown and Smart or Crowder for Butler or George... ::) ;D   Too funny...sky is falling...please save us poor unfortunate fans....

Would you rather end up with Josh Jackson / Jayson Tatum, or Jonathan Isaac / Lauri Markkanen?  To many here, and to most pro scouts on record, dropping from 4th to 5th would not be good. 

In 2005, the 4th pick was Chris Paul.  The 5th pick was Raymond Felton, and just for context, the next four picks were Martell Webster, Charlie Villanueva, Channing Frye and Ike Diogu.  Which of those 6 players would you have wanted on your favorite team for the past 12 years?

BTW, I have your avatar on a black t-shirt.  That's a TP for you.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (15-56, #1 on 3/23)
Post by: BringToughnessBack on March 24, 2017, 06:54:44 PM
Thanks for the TP..right back at you. I love this avatar!

My point is that even if we get 2nd best odds, I do not believe we drop to 5th. Last year, we broke our curse of falling and locked the 3rd spot and that has worked out pretty good so far.

Mark my words, we end up with 2nd pick at worst this year. I do believe we end up with best odds still though. Lin or Lopez will most likely be rested or tweak something before too long.

I definitely don't want Isaac or Markkanen though....not after this Nets performance this year! ;D
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (15-56, #1 on 3/23)
Post by: nickagneta on March 24, 2017, 07:43:56 PM
You know what would be ironic and yet sadly funny? If, for all the cheering and hoping we do for the Nets to lose and end up being the worst team in the league, that the Lakers, who finish with the 2nd worst record, end up with the #1 pick. People here will be screaming bloody murder that all the Nets had to do was win another game or two and the Celtics could have had the 2nd worst record and won the lottery
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (15-56, #1 on 3/23)
Post by: Phantom255x on March 24, 2017, 08:13:42 PM
Wizards up 63-42 at the half.

So far so good.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (15-56, #1 on 3/23)
Post by: Neurotic Guy on March 24, 2017, 08:59:52 PM
Wizard fan for a night! Thank goodness they are up by 20 with less than 9 minutes to go.   Winnable game for the Lakers tonight (OK, not really).
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (15-56, #1 on 3/23)
Post by: saltlover on March 24, 2017, 09:07:37 PM
Wizard fan for a night! Thank goodness they are up by 20 with less than 9 minutes to go.   Winnable game for the Lakers tonight (OK, not really).

We'll revisit that comment in four hours (well, probably more, since that's past my bedtime.)
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (15-56, #1 on 3/23)
Post by: BringToughnessBack on March 24, 2017, 09:35:56 PM
Sky didnt fall tonight! Cheers all... thank you Nets....
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (15-56, #1 on 3/23)
Post by: smokeablount on March 24, 2017, 09:41:48 PM
Thanks for the TP..right back at you. I love this avatar!

My point is that even if we get 2nd best odds, I do not believe we drop to 5th. Last year, we broke our curse of falling and locked the 3rd spot and that has worked out pretty good so far.

Mark my words, we end up with 2nd pick at worst this year. I do believe we end up with best odds still though. Lin or Lopez will most likely be rested or tweak something before too long.

I definitely don't want Isaac or Markkanen though....not after this Nets performance this year! ;D

I hear ya. I just really, really don't wanna pick 5th. I agreed with everything else. Top 2 would be amazing. I'd love Fultz or Jackson but if DA wants Ball over either I could surely live with that... Just please, not the 5th pick. Or if I'm being greedy, not 4th either haha.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (15-56, #1 on 3/23)
Post by: SHAQATTACK on March 24, 2017, 10:07:04 PM
Come on Celtic Hawks we need ya
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (15-56, #1 on 3/23)
Post by: footey on March 24, 2017, 10:31:46 PM
Thx Wiz. Now lose the rest.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (15-56, #1 on 3/23)
Post by: MJohnnyboy on March 24, 2017, 10:35:46 PM
Thx Wiz. Now lose the rest.

You want them to lose to Cleveland tomorrow?
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (15-56, #1 on 3/23)
Post by: saltlover on March 24, 2017, 10:35:47 PM
Thx Wiz. Now lose the rest.

They can beat Cleveland tomorrow please.  And then lose the rest.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (15-56, #1 on 3/23)
Post by: 86MaxwellSmart on March 25, 2017, 12:17:27 AM
Thx Wiz. Now lose the rest.

They can beat Cleveland tomorrow please.  And then lose the rest.

LeBron got a scratched cornea tonight---won't play tomorrow most likely.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (15-56, #1 on 3/23)
Post by: SHAQATTACK on March 25, 2017, 12:25:52 AM
Thx Wiz. Now lose the rest.

They can beat Cleveland tomorrow please.  And then lose the rest.

LeBron got a scratched cornea tonight---won't play tomorrow most likely.

Meh....he is a Whiner , but not that big of woose.....he ll play .....or his team will get pounded.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (15-56, #1 on 3/23)
Post by: Denis998 on March 25, 2017, 12:42:48 AM
Thx Wiz. Now lose the rest.

They can beat Cleveland tomorrow please.  And then lose the rest.

LeBron got a scratched cornea tonight---won't play tomorrow most likely.

Meh....he is a Whiner , but not that big of woose.....he ll play .....or his team will get pounded.
usually players miss some time with that.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (15-56, #1 on 3/23)
Post by: jpotter33 on March 25, 2017, 12:49:36 AM
Clarkson doing his best to help us out. Has hit 7 of 9 threes tonight, including a four point play on his last attempt. Down 1 with a bit over a minute to go!

EDIT: And they lead by 1 with one minute to go now!
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (15-56, #1 on 3/23)
Post by: MattyIce on March 25, 2017, 12:53:03 AM
grab the rebound!!!
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (15-56, #1 on 3/23)
Post by: SparzWizard on March 25, 2017, 12:59:12 AM
Let's go Lakers!!!


Ugh, I sound so disgusted lol  :-[ :-[
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (15-56, #1 on 3/23)
Post by: jpotter33 on March 25, 2017, 01:02:54 AM
Up 5 in OT! Freaking Clarkson shooting 8-10 on threes!

I was getting a bit nervous about Brooklyn tying LA by the end of the season if they don't hold Lopez out any games, but a win tonight should make that out of the question.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (15-56, #1 on 3/23)
Post by: SHAQATTACK on March 25, 2017, 01:04:58 AM
Maybe a Russell don't want Ball on his team
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (15-56, #1 on 3/23)
Post by: jpotter33 on March 25, 2017, 01:09:44 AM
I'd say that about does it! Pretty much assures us of the top spot in the lottery!

No way they win 6 of their remaining 10 just to tie LAL, let alone if LA wins any of their remaining matchups with Minny.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (15-56, #1 on 3/23)
Post by: Emmette Bryant on March 25, 2017, 01:10:39 AM
Looks like the Lakers are going to win in OT
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (15-56, #1 on 3/23)
Post by: CelticSooner on March 25, 2017, 01:23:09 AM
I'm ecstatic! Lakers don't look like they are done winning after all.  ;D
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (15-56, #1 on 3/23)
Post by: saltlover on March 25, 2017, 01:23:09 AM
Wizard fan for a night! Thank goodness they are up by 20 with less than 9 minutes to go.   Winnable game for the Lakers tonight (OK, not really).

We'll revisit that comment in four hours (well, probably more, since that's past my bedtime.)

Comment revisited.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (15-56, #1 on 3/23)
Post by: BringToughnessBack on March 25, 2017, 01:24:20 AM
Nets lose...check
Lakers win...check
Sky is falling..........
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (15-56, #1 on 3/23)
Post by: SHAQATTACK on March 25, 2017, 01:25:22 AM
Magic Johnson is stomping mad .....a win ....a win .......shaking his fist at D Russell and Randle
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (15-56, #1 on 3/23)
Post by: SHAQATTACK on March 25, 2017, 01:28:43 AM
Hawks can take care of business with Nets in Atlanta
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (15-56, #1 on 3/23)
Post by: Ogaju on March 25, 2017, 02:02:33 AM
Nets lose...check
Lakers win...check
Sky is falling..........

Lakers what????????
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (15-56, #1 on 3/23)
Post by: hodgy03038 on March 25, 2017, 07:15:20 AM
Wizard fan for a night! Thank goodness they are up by 20 with less than 9 minutes to go.   Winnable game for the Lakers tonight (OK, not really).

We'll revisit that comment in four hours (well, probably more, since that's past my bedtime.)

Comment revisited.

Yes! You were right and I was wrong but I am ecstatic!! TP
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (14-56, #1 on 3/21)
Post by: hodgy03038 on March 25, 2017, 07:17:15 AM
There is ZERO PERCENT chance that the Lakers who are trying to lose can actually win any of the following games by accident. Absolute ZERO


Minnesota
Portland
Washington
@ Minnesota
@ Clippers
Memphis
San Antonio
Sacramento
Minnesota
New Orleans
Golden State

I would happily engage in a friendly wager of 5 TPs that the Lakers win at least one of those games. The loser is responsible for coming back on each of five days to reward the winner.

Mike

You are on! It's a win-win for me. If they win a game or more I win. If they lose them all like I expect I win tommy points!

You were right!! I was wrong and I am ecstatic!! Here is your 1st TP
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (15-56, #1 on 3/23)
Post by: footey on March 25, 2017, 08:10:22 AM
Must say I was shocked Lakers won last night, in OT last night. What's our magic number this morning?
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (15-56, #1 on 3/23)
Post by: chilidawg on March 25, 2017, 09:17:11 AM
Must say I was shocked Lakers won last night, in OT last night. What's our magic number this morning?

5, with 10 games to go.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (14-56, #1 on 3/21)
Post by: Darío SpanishFan on March 25, 2017, 10:39:13 AM
There is ZERO PERCENT chance that the Lakers who are trying to lose can actually win any of the following games by accident. Absolute ZERO


Minnesota
Portland
Washington
@ Minnesota
@ Clippers
Memphis
San Antonio
Sacramento
Minnesota
New Orleans
Golden State

 ;D  ZERO
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (14-56, #1 on 3/21)
Post by: mef730 on March 25, 2017, 11:10:58 AM
There is ZERO PERCENT chance that the Lakers who are trying to lose can actually win any of the following games by accident. Absolute ZERO


Minnesota
Portland
Washington
@ Minnesota
@ Clippers
Memphis
San Antonio
Sacramento
Minnesota
New Orleans
Golden State

I would happily engage in a friendly wager of 5 TPs that the Lakers win at least one of those games. The loser is responsible for coming back on each of five days to reward the winner.

Mike

You are on! It's a win-win for me. If they win a game or more I win. If they lose them all like I expect I win tommy points!

You were right!! I was wrong and I am ecstatic!! Here is your 1st TP

;)

Mike
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (15-56, #1 on 3/23)
Post by: Phantom255x on March 25, 2017, 11:47:06 AM
Idk about you guys, but that Lakers win just gave me a HUGE sigh of relief.

I hope Phoenix loses out and LAL win just 1 more.

Then LAL have the tiebreaker over them (better conference record) and they are the 3rd worst record in the league lol.

Now 10 games to go, Nets have to go 6-4 just to tie the Lakers. Not impossible but I think that's unlikely, they probably can go 4-6 at best in that stretch. They also play BOS once in that stretch.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (14-56, #1 on 3/21)
Post by: nickagneta on March 25, 2017, 02:12:49 PM
There is ZERO PERCENT chance that the Lakers who are trying to lose can actually win any of the following games by accident. Absolute ZERO


Minnesota
Portland
Washington
@ Minnesota
@ Clippers
Memphis
San Antonio
Sacramento
Minnesota
New Orleans
Golden State
So I guess the chances were a little higher than 0%, huh?

 ;) :D ;D

I think the Lakers still have another win or two in them before it is all said and done. Lots of bad opponents still to go.

In other words, Brooklyn ain't catching them
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (15-56, #1 on 3/23)
Post by: mef730 on March 25, 2017, 02:15:41 PM
Idk about you guys, but that Lakers win just gave me a HUGE sigh of relief.

I hope Phoenix loses out and LAL win just 1 more.

Then LAL have the tiebreaker over them (better conference record) and they are the 3rd worst record in the league lol.

Now 10 games to go, Nets have to go 6-4 just to tie the Lakers. Not impossible but I think that's unlikely, they probably can go 4-6 at best in that stretch. They also play BOS once in that stretch.

I could be wrong but, for the sake of the lottery, I don't think they have a tiebreaker. I think it's a coin flip. 

Mike
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (15-56, #1 on 3/23)
Post by: kraidstar on March 25, 2017, 02:23:14 PM
Idk about you guys, but that Lakers win just gave me a HUGE sigh of relief.

I hope Phoenix loses out and LAL win just 1 more.

Then LAL have the tiebreaker over them (better conference record) and they are the 3rd worst record in the league lol.

Now 10 games to go, Nets have to go 6-4 just to tie the Lakers. Not impossible but I think that's unlikely, they probably can go 4-6 at best in that stretch. They also play BOS once in that stretch.

I could be wrong but, for the sake of the lottery, I don't think they have a tiebreaker. I think it's a coin flip. 

Mike

You are correct, head to heads etc mean nothing for draft order, it is a random drawing.

http://www.nba.com/2016/news/04/15/ties-broken-for-2016-nba-draft-order-of-selection/
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (15-56, #1 on 3/23)
Post by: fantankerous on March 25, 2017, 02:32:43 PM
Idk about you guys, but that Lakers win just gave me a HUGE sigh of relief.

I hope Phoenix loses out and LAL win just 1 more.

Then LAL have the tiebreaker over them (better conference record) and they are the 3rd worst record in the league lol.

Now 10 games to go, Nets have to go 6-4 just to tie the Lakers. Not impossible but I think that's unlikely, they probably can go 4-6 at best in that stretch. They also play BOS once in that stretch.

I could be wrong but, for the sake of the lottery, I don't think they have a tiebreaker. I think it's a coin flip. 

Mike

You are correct, head to heads etc mean nothing for draft order, it is a random drawing.

http://www.nba.com/2016/news/04/15/ties-broken-for-2016-nba-draft-order-of-selection/

IIRC, for the lottery drawing, in the case of a tie, the number of number combinations would be evenly divided between the tying teams. 
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (15-56, #1 on 3/23)
Post by: MattyIce on March 25, 2017, 02:35:31 PM
Idk about you guys, but that Lakers win just gave me a HUGE sigh of relief.

I hope Phoenix loses out and LAL win just 1 more.

Then LAL have the tiebreaker over them (better conference record) and they are the 3rd worst record in the league lol.

Now 10 games to go, Nets have to go 6-4 just to tie the Lakers. Not impossible but I think that's unlikely, they probably can go 4-6 at best in that stretch. They also play BOS once in that stretch.

I could be wrong but, for the sake of the lottery, I don't think they have a tiebreaker. I think it's a coin flip. 

Mike

You are correct, head to heads etc mean nothing for draft order, it is a random drawing.

http://www.nba.com/2016/news/04/15/ties-broken-for-2016-nba-draft-order-of-selection/

IIRC, for the lottery drawing, in the case of a tie, the number of number combinations would be evenly divided between the tying teams.

i thought it was both of the above...if in the lottery then its even split of extra balls, if out of lottery its a coin flip
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (15-56, #1 on 3/23)
Post by: mef730 on March 25, 2017, 02:53:54 PM
You still need a coin flip, though, in the lottery. If neither team ends up in the top 3, the winner of the flip gets the more favorable spot.

Mike
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (15-56, #1 on 3/23)
Post by: footey on March 25, 2017, 03:25:33 PM
Must say I was shocked Lakers won last night, in OT last night. What's our magic number this morning?

5, with 10 games to go.

Thx TP
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (15-56, #1 on 3/23)
Post by: CelticSooner on March 26, 2017, 01:35:18 PM
Nets may get a win today against this hapless injured Hawks team.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (15-56, #1 on 3/23)
Post by: Ogaju on March 26, 2017, 01:36:22 PM
Nets up by 12 in ATL end of first quarter. ATL has 3 starters out. Why are these teams making it so hard for Cs to get the overall best chance at #1??? How can ATL lose to Nets at home?
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (15-56, #1 on 3/23)
Post by: CelticSooner on March 26, 2017, 01:41:48 PM
Getting blown out. Would be their 7th straight loss.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (15-56, #1 on 3/23)
Post by: saltlover on March 26, 2017, 01:45:24 PM
Mike Dunleavy is an impressive -22 in 7 minutes.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (15-56, #1 on 3/23)
Post by: Darío SpanishFan on March 26, 2017, 01:45:36 PM
Atlanta has possibilities of getting out of the playoffs. They'd better win this one, for them and for us.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (15-56, #1 on 3/23)
Post by: jpotter33 on March 26, 2017, 01:45:56 PM
Nets up by 12 in ATL end of first quarter. ATL has 3 starters out. Why are these teams making it so hard for Cs to get the overall best chance at #1??? How can ATL lose to Nets at home?

Man, and they're on a free fall with a pretty difficult schedule the rest of the way, including another game against the Nets.

Were they resting guys or had guys with actual injuries? They legitimately could fall to the 8th seed at this rate, if not worse.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (15-56, #1 on 3/23)
Post by: saltlover on March 26, 2017, 01:56:25 PM
Nets up by 12 in ATL end of first quarter. ATL has 3 starters out. Why are these teams making it so hard for Cs to get the overall best chance at #1??? How can ATL lose to Nets at home?

Man, and they're on a free fall with a pretty difficult schedule the rest of the way, including another game against the Nets.

Were they resting guys or had guys with actual injuries? They legitimately could fall to the 8th seed at this rate, if not worse.

Actual injuries.  Millsap has missed 5 in a row, and Bazemore has missed 3 in a row.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (15-56, #1 on 3/23)
Post by: CelticSooner on March 26, 2017, 02:01:42 PM
So when do the Nets shutdown Lopez? They are playing too hard even though they suck. Starting to annoy me lol
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (15-56, #1 on 3/23)
Post by: jambr380 on March 26, 2017, 02:16:38 PM
So when do the Nets shutdown Lopez? They are playing too hard even though they suck. Starting to annoy me lol

Hey, at least Fox looks like the lone bright spot in the tourney this year. I REALLY hope BKN doesn't end the year on some crazy run (and that we don't get the 5th pick), though.

Lead down to 7 at the half. Let's go Hawks!
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (15-56, #1 on 3/23)
Post by: Smokeeye123 on March 26, 2017, 03:16:30 PM
Ughhh why must the nets make me sweat like this. STOP WINNING JEEZE
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (15-56, #1 on 3/23)
Post by: Denis998 on March 26, 2017, 03:17:14 PM
This is starting to become a problem
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (15-56, #1 on 3/23)
Post by: jpotter33 on March 26, 2017, 03:19:40 PM
So much for that Lakers win the other night.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (15-56, #1 on 3/23)
Post by: konkmv on March 26, 2017, 03:23:14 PM
Calm down they cannot win 5 out of remainig 9 and the lakers lose them all
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (15-56, #1 on 3/23)
Post by: Denis998 on March 26, 2017, 03:23:14 PM
Is Atlanta primed to miss the playoffs following this loss?
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (15-56, #1 on 3/23)
Post by: Big333223 on March 26, 2017, 03:25:46 PM
Nets leading by 14 with less than 2 to go. With a win this afternoon, the Nets will be 3-1 in their last 4 and 5-4 in their last nine.

To catch LA, they'd have to go the same 5-4 over their final 9 games, and that's if LA loses all of their remaining 10 games.

I still think the #1 lottery odds are safe but Brooklyn is going to make us sweat it out down to the end.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (15-56, #1 on 3/23)
Post by: footey on March 26, 2017, 03:27:53 PM
Is Atlanta primed to miss the playoffs following this loss?

Atlanta can't go higher than where they are. No advantage for them to try to keep 5th seed so they're better off resting their starters for playoffs.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (15-56, #1 on 3/23)
Post by: saltlover on March 26, 2017, 03:30:21 PM
Is Atlanta primed to miss the playoffs following this loss?

Depends when/if Millsap returns.  They're now 0-8 without him and 37-27 with him.  If he returns they're a lock.  If he's out then next 5 games, it's going to be close.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (15-56, #1 on 3/23)
Post by: footey on March 26, 2017, 03:33:43 PM
It's reasonable to project Brooklyn winning 6 of their last 11 games, given their weak schedule and the level they are now playing. Check their schedule. So say the Lakers win 1 of their remaining games, who wins (loses)? I'm on my phone and can't check.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (15-56, #1 on 3/23)
Post by: saltlover on March 26, 2017, 03:35:26 PM
It's reasonable to project Brooklyn winning 6 of their last 11 games, given their weak schedule and the level they are now playing. Check their schedule. So say the Lakers win 1 of their remaining games, who wins (loses)? I'm on my phone and can't check.

The Nets only have 9 games left, not 11.  I don't think 6-3 is reasonable.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (15-56, #1 on 3/23)
Post by: positivitize on March 26, 2017, 03:37:03 PM
It's reasonable to project Brooklyn winning 6 of their last 11 games, given their weak schedule and the level they are now playing. Check their schedule. So say the Lakers win 1 of their remaining games, who wins (loses)? I'm on my phone and can't check.

The Nets only have 9 games left, not 11.  I don't think 6-3 is reasonable.

One of those games is against us too. I think it's more like going 8 games and 6-2.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (15-56, #1 on 3/23)
Post by: Roy H. on March 26, 2017, 03:43:31 PM
It's reasonable to project Brooklyn winning 6 of their last 11 games, given their weak schedule and the level they are now playing. Check their schedule. So say the Lakers win 1 of their remaining games, who wins (loses)? I'm on my phone and can't check.

The Nets only have 9 games left, not 11.  I don't think 6-3 is reasonable.

One of those games is against us too. I think it's more like going 8 games and 6-2.

I think 6-3 is doable.

PHI x 2
DET
ORL x 2
ATL
CHI x 2
BOS

That's a tremendously weak schedule, outside of their game with us.

To answer footey's question, 6 more Nets wins and 1 Lakers win would mean a tie. The teams would split ping pong balls, and a coin flip would determine which team would be the #1 lottery seed.

A Celtics / Lakers coin flip would be a lot of fun, assuming we won it. Haha.

Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (15-56, #1 on 3/23)
Post by: PhoSita on March 26, 2017, 03:43:47 PM
Let's just be glad the Nets didn't have Lin, Lopez, and RHJ healthy and playing together for most of the season.

It's very unlikely they'll overtake the Lakers, and even if they do, they will still finish with a bottom three record.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (15-56, #1 on 3/23)
Post by: libermaniac on March 26, 2017, 03:44:09 PM
It's reasonable to project Brooklyn winning 6 of their last 11 games, given their weak schedule and the level they are now playing. Check their schedule. So say the Lakers win 1 of their remaining games, who wins (loses)? I'm on my phone and can't check.
If there were a tie, they'd essentially split the chances in the lottery and a coin flip would decide who gets top slot in case neither win the lottery.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (15-56, #1 on 3/23)
Post by: saltlover on March 26, 2017, 03:44:34 PM
It's reasonable to project Brooklyn winning 6 of their last 11 games, given their weak schedule and the level they are now playing. Check their schedule. So say the Lakers win 1 of their remaining games, who wins (loses)? I'm on my phone and can't check.

The Nets only have 9 games left, not 11.  I don't think 6-3 is reasonable.

One of those games is against us too. I think it's more like going 8 games and 6-2.

I think 6-3 is doable.

PHI x 2
DET
ORL x 2
ATL
CHI x 2
BOS

That's a tremendously weak schedule, outside of their game with us.

They finish no better than 4-5.

While it's a relatively easy schedule, none are better than 50-50 games for the Nets.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (15-56, #1 on 3/23)
Post by: positivitize on March 26, 2017, 03:59:57 PM
It's reasonable to project Brooklyn winning 6 of their last 11 games, given their weak schedule and the level they are now playing. Check their schedule. So say the Lakers win 1 of their remaining games, who wins (loses)? I'm on my phone and can't check.

The Nets only have 9 games left, not 11.  I don't think 6-3 is reasonable.

One of those games is against us too. I think it's more like going 8 games and 6-2.

I think 6-3 is doable.

PHI x 2
DET
ORL x 2
ATL
CHI x 2
BOS

That's a tremendously weak schedule, outside of their game with us.

To answer footey's question, 6 more Nets wins and 1 Lakers win would mean a tie. The teams would split ping pong balls, and a coin flip would determine which team would be the #1 lottery seed.

A Celtics / Lakers coin flip would be a lot of fun, assuming we won it. Haha.

76ers
@Pistons
Magic
Hawks (2nd night of Back to back)
@76ers
@Magic
Bulls
@Celtics
@Bulls

While the competition level of their final nine games isn't high, 6 out of the remaining nine are either Away games or 2nd night of a B2B game. While I think that the Nets CAN win against teams like Detroit, Chicago, Orlando, and Phili, I don't exactly think that BRK has been consistent enough to be considered favorites in those games. If we ignore home court advantage and call 8 of those games conflip odds, the odds of winning 6 out of 8 coinflips isn't super likely.

Especially because the number of wins needed might increase if LA wins a game or two (possible, if unlikely)
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (15-56, #1 on 3/23)
Post by: Dannys Chipotle Guy on March 26, 2017, 04:06:33 PM
It's reasonable to project Brooklyn winning 6 of their last 11 games, given their weak schedule and the level they are now playing. Check their schedule. So say the Lakers win 1 of their remaining games, who wins (loses)? I'm on my phone and can't check.

The Nets only have 9 games left, not 11.  I don't think 6-3 is reasonable.

One of those games is against us too. I think it's more like going 8 games and 6-2.

I think 6-3 is doable.

PHI x 2
DET
ORL x 2
ATL
CHI x 2
BOS

That's a tremendously weak schedule, outside of their game with us.

They finish no better than 4-5.

While it's a relatively easy schedule, none are better than 50-50 games for the Nets.
There is no such thing as an easy schedule when you have a 22% win percentage.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (15-56, #1 on 3/23)
Post by: footey on March 26, 2017, 04:11:28 PM
It's reasonable to project Brooklyn winning 6 of their last 11 games, given their weak schedule and the level they are now playing. Check their schedule. So say the Lakers win 1 of their remaining games, who wins (loses)? I'm on my phone and can't check.

The Nets only have 9 games left, not 11.  I don't think 6-3 is reasonable.

One of those games is against us too. I think it's more like going 8 games and 6-2.

I think 6-3 is doable.

PHI x 2
DET
ORL x 2
ATL
CHI x 2
BOS

That's a tremendously weak schedule, outside of their game with us.

They finish no better than 4-5.

While it's a relatively easy schedule, none are better than 50-50 games for the Nets.

I disagree. This is realistic outcome for Brooklyn in their remains games:

PHI WIN
@DET LOSE
ORL WIN
ATL WIN
@PHI LOSE
@ORL WIN
CHI WIN
@ BOS LOSE
@ CHI LOSE

Chicago and Detroit are playing terribly and are in danger of falling out of playoff hunt so it wouldn't surprise me to see Nets win last game of season and also beat Detroit and finish with one or two more wins which would boost their win total to 6-7 games. I hope I'm wrong, but this is the only crappy team with no incentive to tank whose coach is coaching to keep his job. Plus they are finally healthy and frankly a lot better than their season record would indicate.

Put another way, if the Nets played Suns or Lakers in a best of 7 series right now, wouldn't most of us pick the Nets not only to win but to do so in 5 or 6 games? 

Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (15-56, #1 on 3/23)
Post by: footey on March 26, 2017, 04:14:23 PM
It's reasonable to project Brooklyn winning 6 of their last 11 games, given their weak schedule and the level they are now playing. Check their schedule. So say the Lakers win 1 of their remaining games, who wins (loses)? I'm on my phone and can't check.

The Nets only have 9 games left, not 11.  I don't think 6-3 is reasonable.

One of those games is against us too. I think it's more like going 8 games and 6-2.

I think 6-3 is doable.

PHI x 2
DET
ORL x 2
ATL
CHI x 2
BOS

That's a tremendously weak schedule, outside of their game with us.

They finish no better than 4-5.

While it's a relatively easy schedule, none are better than 50-50 games for the Nets.
There is no such thing as an easy schedule when you have a 22% win percentage.

Too many fans here confuse Nets season record with how much better they are playing relative to Lakers or PHX in the past two weeks, which i would think is a better indicator of future performance.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (15-56, #1 on 3/23)
Post by: hwangjini_1 on March 26, 2017, 04:14:44 PM
It's reasonable to project Brooklyn winning 6 of their last 11 games, given their weak schedule and the level they are now playing. Check their schedule. So say the Lakers win 1 of their remaining games, who wins (loses)? I'm on my phone and can't check.

The Nets only have 9 games left, not 11.  I don't think 6-3 is reasonable.

One of those games is against us too. I think it's more like going 8 games and 6-2.

I think 6-3 is doable.

PHI x 2
DET
ORL x 2
ATL
CHI x 2
BOS

That's a tremendously weak schedule, outside of their game with us.

They finish no better than 4-5.

While it's a relatively easy schedule, none are better than 50-50 games for the Nets.

I disagree. This is realistic outcome for Brooklyn in their remains games:

PHI WIN
@DET LOSE
ORL WIN
ATL WIN
@PHI LOSE
@ORL WIN
CHI WIN
@ BOS LOSE
@ CHI LOSE

Chicago and Detroit are playing terribly and are in danger of falling out of playoff hunt so it wouldn't surprise me to see Nets win last game of season and also beat Detroit and finish with one or two more wins which would boost their win total to 6-7 games. I hope I'm wrong, but this is the only crappy team with no incentive to tank whose coach is coaching to keep his job. Plus they are finally healthy and frankly a lot better than their season record would indicate.

Put another way, if the Nets played Suns or Lakers in a best of 7 series right now, wouldn't most of us pick the Nets not only to win but to do so in 5 or 6 games?
on the bolded, please:

1. define
2. prove

thank you.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (16-57, #1 on 3/25)
Post by: 86MaxwellSmart on March 26, 2017, 04:15:21 PM
Gettin tight in this place...C'mon BK--Shut down Lopez-!

Of course, maybe they have no incentive to shut him down like they did last season, given his contract situation-?
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (15-56, #1 on 3/23)
Post by: bruinsandceltics on March 26, 2017, 04:25:23 PM

Too many fans here confuse Nets season record with how much better they are playing relative to Lakers or PHX in the past two weeks, which i would think is a better indicator of future performance.

And too many fans here are acting like over coming a 5.5 game deficit with just 9 games left is easy.

Hell the Celtics have a 3 game lead over Toronto with 9 games left for both teams.

It is extremely statistically unlike for a team to over come a deficit like that let alone a 5.5 game deficit.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (16-57, #1 on 3/25)
Post by: SHAQATTACK on March 26, 2017, 04:27:53 PM
No incentive to tank or loose games .   Other than keeping Lopez healthy as trade fodder.

Atlanta probably looses to the Sun too.

Without Milsap Atlanta is truely bad.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (16-57, #1 on 3/25)
Post by: CelticsBR on March 26, 2017, 04:28:12 PM
I don't like the situation, if it wasn't for one or two really lucky shots, the Nets would already have granted the last position. Most teams the Nets will face do not really  care that much about winning anymore.

But I think there are two aspects that make me feel good that the Nets may not reach the Lakers:

They will play Chicago and Detroit, teams that are fighting for a playoff spot against the Heat. The Cs MUST beat the Heat tonight. But both Chicago and Detroit are not good bb teams.

The Lakers have a tough schedule BUT they have 2 games against the Wolves, a team that have a very hard schedule and still  can finish with the 4th worse record. If they consider it to be a 5-man-draft, maybe their staff won't be all that motivated to beat LA. They have lost their last 6 games. They will also play the Kings, a team that has lost 5 in a row and that has no reason to win.

My guess is that the Suns won't win any game until the rest of the season but the Lakers will.

Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (16-57, #1 on 3/25)
Post by: KG Living Legend on March 26, 2017, 04:49:36 PM

 it's absolutely amazing the Nets have 16 , wins and the next closest team has 27 wins. Things just couldn't have worked out any more perfect for Danny Ainge we've been taking the season for granted a little bit this is just amazing.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (15-56, #1 on 3/23)
Post by: footey on March 26, 2017, 04:51:58 PM
It's reasonable to project Brooklyn winning 6 of their last 11 games, given their weak schedule and the level they are now playing. Check their schedule. So say the Lakers win 1 of their remaining games, who wins (loses)? I'm on my phone and can't check.

The Nets only have 9 games left, not 11.  I don't think 6-3 is reasonable.

One of those games is against us too. I think it's more like going 8 games and 6-2.

I think 6-3 is doable.

PHI x 2
DET
ORL x 2
ATL
CHI x 2
BOS

That's a tremendously weak schedule, outside of their game with us.

They finish no better than 4-5.

While it's a relatively easy schedule, none are better than 50-50 games for the Nets.

I disagree. This is realistic outcome for Brooklyn in their remains games:

PHI WIN
@DET LOSE
ORL WIN
ATL WIN
@PHI LOSE
@ORL WIN
CHI WIN
@ BOS LOSE
@ CHI LOSE

Chicago and Detroit are playing terribly and are in danger of falling out of playoff hunt so it wouldn't surprise me to see Nets win last game of season and also beat Detroit and finish with one or two more wins which would boost their win total to 6-7 games. I hope I'm wrong, but this is the only crappy team with no incentive to tank whose coach is coaching to keep his job. Plus they are finally healthy and frankly a lot better than their season record would indicate.

Put another way, if the Nets played Suns or Lakers in a best of 7 series right now, wouldn't most of us pick the Nets not only to win but to do so in 5 or 6 games?
on the bolded, please:

1. define
2. prove

thank you.

1. Define realistic: greater than 50% for each of my projections.
2. Prove: I can't prove a prediction of a future event. But I give Brooklyn better than 50:50 shot on each of their remains home games but less than 50/50 on each of their away games unless the opponent is playing so poorly and motivated to lose (ORL e.g.).

They just beat Atlanta today AT ATL so seems quite reasonable they will beat them in BKLN.

My fear is that they will win more than5 games because Detroit is playing so poorly and I suspect Chicago will be out of playoff hunt by last game of season.

I'd say that is reasonable. You?
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (15-56, #1 on 3/23)
Post by: bruinsandceltics on March 26, 2017, 04:56:33 PM
It's reasonable to project Brooklyn winning 6 of their last 11 games, given their weak schedule and the level they are now playing. Check their schedule. So say the Lakers win 1 of their remaining games, who wins (loses)? I'm on my phone and can't check.

The Nets only have 9 games left, not 11.  I don't think 6-3 is reasonable.

One of those games is against us too. I think it's more like going 8 games and 6-2.

I think 6-3 is doable.

PHI x 2
DET
ORL x 2
ATL
CHI x 2
BOS

That's a tremendously weak schedule, outside of their game with us.

They finish no better than 4-5.

While it's a relatively easy schedule, none are better than 50-50 games for the Nets.

I disagree. This is realistic outcome for Brooklyn in their remains games:

PHI WIN
@DET LOSE
ORL WIN
ATL WIN
@PHI LOSE
@ORL WIN
CHI WIN
@ BOS LOSE
@ CHI LOSE

Chicago and Detroit are playing terribly and are in danger of falling out of playoff hunt so it wouldn't surprise me to see Nets win last game of season and also beat Detroit and finish with one or two more wins which would boost their win total to 6-7 games. I hope I'm wrong, but this is the only crappy team with no incentive to tank whose coach is coaching to keep his job. Plus they are finally healthy and frankly a lot better than their season record would indicate.

Put another way, if the Nets played Suns or Lakers in a best of 7 series right now, wouldn't most of us pick the Nets not only to win but to do so in 5 or 6 games?
on the bolded, please:

1. define
2. prove

thank you.

1. Define realistic: greater than 50% for each of my projections.
2. Prove: I can prove a prediction of a future event. But I give Brooklyn better than 50:50 shot on each of their remains home games but less than 50/50 on each of their away games unless the opponent is playing so poorly and motivated to lose (ORL e.g.).

They just beat Atlanta today AT ATL so seems quite reasonable they will beat them in BKLN.

My fear is that they will win more than5 games because Detroit is playing so poorly and I suspect Chicago will be out of playoff hunt by last game of season.

I'd say that is reasonable. You?

They beat ATL today in ATL with 3 of Atlanta's starters not playing.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (16-57, #1 on 3/25)
Post by: Phantom255x on March 26, 2017, 04:59:29 PM
Would be nice if LAL could squeak out just one more win this season. Not betting on it but that would mean BKN have to finish the season 6-3. Doubt that happens despite their recent "hot stretch"  :laugh:
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (15-56, #1 on 3/23)
Post by: footey on March 26, 2017, 04:59:34 PM
It's reasonable to project Brooklyn winning 6 of their last 11 games, given their weak schedule and the level they are now playing. Check their schedule. So say the Lakers win 1 of their remaining games, who wins (loses)? I'm on my phone and can't check.

The Nets only have 9 games left, not 11.  I don't think 6-3 is reasonable.

One of those games is against us too. I think it's more like going 8 games and 6-2.

I think 6-3 is doable.

PHI x 2
DET
ORL x 2
ATL
CHI x 2
BOS

That's a tremendously weak schedule, outside of their game with us.

They finish no better than 4-5.

While it's a relatively easy schedule, none are better than 50-50 games for the Nets.

I disagree. This is realistic outcome for Brooklyn in their remains games:

PHI WIN
@DET LOSE
ORL WIN
ATL WIN
@PHI LOSE
@ORL WIN
CHI WIN
@ BOS LOSE
@ CHI LOSE

Chicago and Detroit are playing terribly and are in danger of falling out of playoff hunt so it wouldn't surprise me to see Nets win last game of season and also beat Detroit and finish with one or two more wins which would boost their win total to 6-7 games. I hope I'm wrong, but this is the only crappy team with no incentive to tank whose coach is coaching to keep his job. Plus they are finally healthy and frankly a lot better than their season record would indicate.

Put another way, if the Nets played Suns or Lakers in a best of 7 series right now, wouldn't most of us pick the Nets not only to win but to do so in 5 or 6 games?
on the bolded, please:

1. define
2. prove

thank you.

1. Define realistic: greater than 50% for each of my projections.
2. Prove: I can prove a prediction of a future event. But I give Brooklyn better than 50:50 shot on each of their remains home games but less than 50/50 on each of their away games unless the opponent is playing so poorly and motivated to lose (ORL e.g.).

They just beat Atlanta today AT ATL so seems quite reasonable they will beat them in BKLN.

My fear is that they will win more than5 games because Detroit is playing so poorly and I suspect Chicago will be out of playoff hunt by last game of season.

I'd say that is reasonable. You?

They beat ATL today in ATL with 3 of Atlanta's starters not playing.

They are resting for the playoffs. The Nets are playing all their guys for their pride and their contracts including the coaching staff.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (16-57, #1 on 3/25)
Post by: Big333223 on March 26, 2017, 05:03:00 PM
Would be nice if LAL could squeak out just one more win this season. Not betting on it but that would mean BKN have to finish the season 6-3. Doubt that happens despite their recent "hot stretch"  :laugh:
The end of the season, crazy things always happen with some teams quitting, some teams resting guys. The Lakers are young and don't know any better than to just play it out. I'd bet on them winning one more.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (16-57, #1 on 3/25)
Post by: bruinsandceltics on March 26, 2017, 05:21:11 PM
Everyone is extremely worried about Chicago.

They are manhandling the Bucks (who are 11-2 in March) at their place today.

We beat Miami and Chicago is 0.5 game out. We need to do our own part.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (16-57, #1 on 3/25)
Post by: footey on March 26, 2017, 05:39:56 PM
Everyone is extremely worried about Chicago.

They are manhandling the Bucks (who are 11-2 in March) at their place today.

We beat Miami and Chicago is 0.5 game out. We need to do our own part.

I agree with you about doing our part by beating Miami to keep Chicago in the hunt and play hard for the rest of their schedule. Since 2 of their last 3 games are vs. the Nets, it would be great that Chicago had something to play for.  TP.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (16-57, #1 on 3/25)
Post by: Ilikesports17 on March 26, 2017, 05:43:33 PM
Everyone is extremely worried about Chicago.

They are manhandling the Bucks (who are 11-2 in March) at their place today.

We beat Miami and Chicago is 0.5 game out. We need to do our own part.
Butler has 14 assists which means he now has 37 assists in his last 3 games.

What the Edited.  Profanity and masked profanity are against forum rules and may result in discipline.?
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (16-57, #1 on 3/25)
Post by: Green-Bananas on March 26, 2017, 05:49:41 PM
It's nice we can at least talk about how close this is going to be, without being called insults.
If I remember right I was called every name in the book, for saying this could get ugly?

Still hoping I was wrong of course, but I see some of you who were giving me a hard time, are
now the ones who are worrying. That's why its not over til its over. Lets hope we get some
help from the Leprechaun.. 

Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (16-57, #1 on 3/25)
Post by: footey on March 26, 2017, 05:52:22 PM
It's nice we can at least talk about how close this is going to be, without being called insults.
If I remember right I was called every name in the book, for saying this could get ugly?

Still hoping I was wrong of course, but I see some of you who were giving me a hard time, are
now the ones who are worrying. That's why its not over til its over. Lets hope we get some
help from the Leprechaun..

Never gave you a hard time, GB.  Those bananas are beginning to ripen though, LOL.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (16-57, #1 on 3/25)
Post by: Rondo9 on March 26, 2017, 05:53:03 PM
It's nice we can at least talk about how close this is going to be, without being called insults.
If I remember right I was called every name in the book, for saying this could get ugly?

Still hoping I was wrong of course, but I see some of you who were giving me a hard time, are
now the ones who are worrying. That's why its not over til its over. Lets hope we get some
help from the Leprechaun..

Who's insulting you? It's possible it's very unlikely that the Nets win a lot.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (15-56, #1 on 3/23)
Post by: saltlover on March 26, 2017, 05:57:39 PM
It's reasonable to project Brooklyn winning 6 of their last 11 games, given their weak schedule and the level they are now playing. Check their schedule. So say the Lakers win 1 of their remaining games, who wins (loses)? I'm on my phone and can't check.

The Nets only have 9 games left, not 11.  I don't think 6-3 is reasonable.

One of those games is against us too. I think it's more like going 8 games and 6-2.

I think 6-3 is doable.

PHI x 2
DET
ORL x 2
ATL
CHI x 2
BOS

That's a tremendously weak schedule, outside of their game with us.

They finish no better than 4-5.

While it's a relatively easy schedule, none are better than 50-50 games for the Nets.

I disagree. This is realistic outcome for Brooklyn in their remains games:

PHI WIN
@DET LOSE
ORL WIN
ATL WIN
@PHI LOSE
@ORL WIN
CHI WIN
@ BOS LOSE
@ CHI LOSE

Chicago and Detroit are playing terribly and are in danger of falling out of playoff hunt so it wouldn't surprise me to see Nets win last game of season and also beat Detroit and finish with one or two more wins which would boost their win total to 6-7 games. I hope I'm wrong, but this is the only crappy team with no incentive to tank whose coach is coaching to keep his job. Plus they are finally healthy and frankly a lot better than their season record would indicate.

Put another way, if the Nets played Suns or Lakers in a best of 7 series right now, wouldn't most of us pick the Nets not only to win but to do so in 5 or 6 games?
on the bolded, please:

1. define
2. prove

thank you.

1. Define realistic: greater than 50% for each of my projections.
2. Prove: I can prove a prediction of a future event. But I give Brooklyn better than 50:50 shot on each of their remains home games but less than 50/50 on each of their away games unless the opponent is playing so poorly and motivated to lose (ORL e.g.).

They just beat Atlanta today AT ATL so seems quite reasonable they will beat them in BKLN.

My fear is that they will win more than5 games because Detroit is playing so poorly and I suspect Chicago will be out of playoff hunt by last game of season.

I'd say that is reasonable. You?

They beat ATL today in ATL with 3 of Atlanta's starters not playing.

They are resting for the playoffs. The Nets are playing all their guys for their pride and their contracts including the coaching staff.

They are not resting for the playoffs.  Their players have legit injuries.  Now, it may be that Millsap and Bazemore (who've both been out multiple games in a row) will not be available when they next play, but this is not "resting starters against a bad team."  Atlanta's lost 7 in a row, the last 5 without Millsap.  At their current pace, they're going to miss the playoffs altogether.  If their starters are healthy, they will play when they meet a week from today.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (16-57, #1 on 3/25)
Post by: jambr380 on March 26, 2017, 06:02:46 PM
It's nice we can at least talk about how close this is going to be, without being called insults.
If I remember right I was called every name in the book, for saying this could get ugly?

Still hoping I was wrong of course, but I see some of you who were giving me a hard time, are
now the ones who are worrying. That's why its not over til its over. Lets hope we get some
help from the Leprechaun..

It's definitely not 'nice' that we can talk about how close this is going to be. Every name in the book also seems to be a bit hyperbolic, but people did think it was a ridiculous premise...and it still might be. None of these Nets wins lately are enormous surprises, especially today with so may Atl players out.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (16-57, #1 on 3/25)
Post by: PAOBoston on March 26, 2017, 06:07:41 PM
Just sit back and enjoy the show folks. If it's meant to be, it's meant to be. I'm not gonna stress about it. Whatever happena, happens.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (16-57, #1 on 3/25)
Post by: SparzWizard on March 26, 2017, 06:31:22 PM

 it's absolutely amazing the Nets have 16 , wins and the next closest team has 27 wins. Things just couldn't have worked out any more perfect for Danny Ainge we've been taking the season for granted a little bit this is just amazing.

The next closest team has 21 wins and they're the Lakers. Followed by the Phoenix Suns with 22 wins.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (16-57, #1 on 3/25)
Post by: Green-Bananas on March 26, 2017, 06:55:16 PM
Just sit back and enjoy the show folks. If it's meant to be, it's meant to be. I'm not gonna stress about it. Whatever happena, happens.

I agree... It's like a real cool Roller-Coaster, it's fun to get a little scare once in awhile
and enjoy the ride.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (16-57, #1 on 3/25)
Post by: Green-Bananas on March 26, 2017, 07:05:45 PM
It's nice we can at least talk about how close this is going to be, without being called insults.
If I remember right I was called every name in the book, for saying this could get ugly?

Still hoping I was wrong of course, but I see some of you who were giving me a hard time, are
now the ones who are worrying. That's why its not over til its over. Lets hope we get some
help from the Leprechaun..

It's definitely not 'nice' that we can talk about how close this is going to be. Every name in the book also seems to be a bit hyperbolic, but people did think it was a ridiculous premise...and it still might be. None of these Nets wins lately are enormous surprises, especially today with so may Atl players out.

Yea, Every name in the book is a bit over the top... But two weeks ago, I just wanted to discuss
the possibility. At the time I really didn't think the Nets would be playing this good.

It's like they're playing hard to recruit FA's for this summer? Hope they have a hiccup soon.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (16-57, #1 on 3/25)
Post by: PAOBoston on March 26, 2017, 07:19:53 PM
It's nice we can at least talk about how close this is going to be, without being called insults.
If I remember right I was called every name in the book, for saying this could get ugly?

Still hoping I was wrong of course, but I see some of you who were giving me a hard time, are
now the ones who are worrying. That's why its not over til its over. Lets hope we get some
help from the Leprechaun..

It's definitely not 'nice' that we can talk about how close this is going to be. Every name in the book also seems to be a bit hyperbolic, but people did think it was a ridiculous premise...and it still might be. None of these Nets wins lately are enormous surprises, especially today with so may Atl players out.

Yea, Every name in the book is a bit over the top... But two weeks ago, I just wanted to discuss
the possibility. At the time I really didn't think the Nets would be playing this good.

It's like they're playing hard to recruit FA's for this summer? Hope they have a hiccup soon.
The players are playing for pride and to possibly get another contract
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (16-57, #1 on 3/25)
Post by: mef730 on March 26, 2017, 09:24:48 PM
Would be nice if LAL could squeak out just one more win this season. Not betting on it but that would mean BKN have to finish the season 6-3. Doubt that happens despite their recent "hot stretch"  :laugh:

Lakers will win at least one more.

One nice thing is that they have a young team, who are playing for their futures. Players and coaches don't tank. Only GMs do.

Mike
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (16-57, #1 on 3/25)
Post by: saltlover on March 26, 2017, 09:51:24 PM
Would be nice if LAL could squeak out just one more win this season. Not betting on it but that would mean BKN have to finish the season 6-3. Doubt that happens despite their recent "hot stretch"  :laugh:

Lakers will win at least one more.

One nice thing is that they have a young team, who are playing for their futures. Players and coaches don't tank. Only GMs do.

Mike

Coaches with job security tank.  Players don't.   
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (16-57, #1 on 3/25)
Post by: mef730 on March 28, 2017, 03:29:20 PM
Hey, it's not over 'til it's over. Lakers are still in this one for the worst team.

Statistics bear it out. If we use the basketball-reference link from upthread, the chances that the Nets aren't the worst team is up six-fold in the past six weeks. Yup, they are six times as likely to be second-worst as they were in mid-February.






Chances of Nets not being the worst team on Feb 11: 0.1%
Chances of nets not being the worst team on Mar 28: 0.6%

http://www.basketball-reference.com/friv/proj_draft.html

Another six-fold increase and they'll be up to 3.6%!

Mike
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (16-57, #1 on 3/25)
Post by: BitterJim on March 28, 2017, 03:53:05 PM
Hey, it's not over 'til it's over. Lakers are still in this one for the worst team.

Statistics bear it out. If we use the basketball-reference link from upthread, the chances that the Nets aren't the worst team is up six-fold in the past six weeks. Yup, they are six times as likely to be second-worst as they were in mid-February.






Chances of Nets not being the worst team on Feb 11: 0.1%
Chances of nets not being the worst team on Mar 28: 0.6%

http://www.basketball-reference.com/friv/proj_draft.html

Another six-fold increase and they'll be up to 3.6%!

Mike

To add more context to that 0.6%, they say that we have a 2.7% chance to win the finals.  So, they think we are 4.5x as likely to win the finals as the Nets to not have the worst record.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (16-57, #1 on 3/25)
Post by: GreenShooter on March 28, 2017, 04:33:34 PM
What happens if there's a tie for the worst record? Coin flip? Head-to-head record (they're 1-1)? What if Nets, Lakers and Suns finish with 22 wins?
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (16-57, #1 on 3/25)
Post by: saltlover on March 28, 2017, 04:45:34 PM
What happens if there's a tie for the worst record? Coin flip? Head-to-head record (they're 1-1)? What if Nets, Lakers and Suns finish with 22 wins?

They split the odds between 1-2 (or 1-3) equally.  If there are an odd number of combinations, a coin flip decides who gets the extra one.  A coin flip also decides who picks higher in the event no one wins the lottery.

So even if the Nets somehow catch and tie the Lakers, there's still a 50% chance we finish no worse than fourth on lottery night (that's decided a couple days after the season, so we won't be in suspense for a month).
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (16-57, #1 on 3/25)
Post by: Donoghus on March 28, 2017, 04:46:25 PM
What happens if there's a tie for the worst record? Coin flip? Head-to-head record (they're 1-1)? What if Nets, Lakers and Suns finish with 22 wins?

I believe they average out the combinations of the spots between the tied teams.  If that doesn't come out to an even number, then a coin flip is used for that extra combination number.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (16-57, #1 on 3/25)
Post by: mef730 on March 28, 2017, 05:10:46 PM
Hey, it's not over 'til it's over. Lakers are still in this one for the worst team.

Statistics bear it out. If we use the basketball-reference link from upthread, the chances that the Nets aren't the worst team is up six-fold in the past six weeks. Yup, they are six times as likely to be second-worst as they were in mid-February.






Chances of Nets not being the worst team on Feb 11: 0.1%
Chances of nets not being the worst team on Mar 28: 0.6%

http://www.basketball-reference.com/friv/proj_draft.html

Another six-fold increase and they'll be up to 3.6%!

Mike

To add more context to that 0.6%, they say that we have a 2.7% chance to win the finals.  So, they think we are 4.5x as likely to win the finals as the Nets to not have the worst record.

Ahh, I like math even more now.

Mike
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (16-57, #1 on 3/25)
Post by: KG Living Legend on March 28, 2017, 05:16:57 PM

 it's absolutely amazing the Nets have 16 , wins and the next closest team has 27 wins. Things just couldn't have worked out any more perfect for Danny Ainge we've been taking the season for granted a little bit this is just amazing.

The next closest team has 21 wins and they're the Lakers. Followed by the Phoenix Suns with 22 wins.


 Was talking about the Eastern conference.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (16-57, #1 on 3/25)
Post by: footey on March 28, 2017, 06:13:00 PM
Funny how two weeks ago nearly everyone was saying it was impossible for Lakers to catch Nets.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (16-57, #1 on 3/25)
Post by: jpotter33 on March 28, 2017, 07:53:17 PM
Why is Lopez even still playing at this point? It's got to be like a 95% chance that they trade him this summer, since there's no real reason to retain him next summer, so why are they even risking injury for him at this point?
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (16-57, #1 on 3/25)
Post by: ImShakHeIsShaq on March 28, 2017, 08:02:18 PM
Why is Lopez even still playing at this point? It's got to be like a 95% chance that they trade him this summer, since there's no real reason to retain him next summer, so why are they even risking injury for him at this point?

maybe no one wants to pay his price so they may have to keep him. i haven't heard of any interested teams. also winning sticks it to ainge if they get out of last.

lol I don't know why either.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (16-57, #1 on 3/25)
Post by: Big333223 on March 28, 2017, 08:23:25 PM
Why is Lopez even still playing at this point? It's got to be like a 95% chance that they trade him this summer, since there's no real reason to retain him next summer, so why are they even risking injury for him at this point?

maybe no one wants to pay his price so they may have to keep him. i haven't heard of any interested teams. also winning sticks it to ainge if they get out of last.

lol I don't know why either.
Maybe they're trying to instill that winning culture everyone is always talking about. Don't give up until the last game is over.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (16-57, #1 on 3/25)
Post by: Ilikesports17 on March 28, 2017, 08:29:52 PM
Why is Lopez even still playing at this point? It's got to be like a 95% chance that they trade him this summer, since there's no real reason to retain him next summer, so why are they even risking injury for him at this point?

maybe no one wants to pay his price so they may have to keep him. i haven't heard of any interested teams. also winning sticks it to ainge if they get out of last.

lol I don't know why either.
I think its possible they believe a strong finish could give them some level of positive momentum to sell free agents on.

thats all I can think of.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (16-57, #1 on 3/25)
Post by: slamtheking on March 28, 2017, 09:14:09 PM
so, post for the doom and gloomers to ease their panic:
Lakers have a 5 game lead on the Nets in the standings with each having 9 games to play. 

Nets would have to close out 5-4 with the Lakers going 0-9.

Nets have games against these teams remaining:
- 2 against the Sixers
- 1 against Detroit
- 2 against Orlando
- 1 against Atlanta
- 2 against Chicago
- 1 against Boston

They may get 1 against the Sixers who are actually trying to win games and could take 2 against Orlando who are underachieving (I think only 1 is really possible but both games are a possibility) but with everyone else fighting for playoffs or seeding, I don't see Brooklyn picking up more than 3 wins if that much.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (16-57, #1 on 3/25)
Post by: Phantom255x on March 28, 2017, 09:25:32 PM
9 minutes to go and it's tied 86-86.

Come on Philly.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (16-57, #1 on 3/25)
Post by: jpotter33 on March 28, 2017, 09:49:58 PM
Come on, Philly! Give me some peace of mind down the stretch here! I've already got too much to worry about with the Celtics playoff seeding!
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (16-57, #1 on 3/25)
Post by: Phantom255x on March 28, 2017, 09:50:26 PM
8 seconds to go.

Sixers up 104-101!
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (16-57, #1 on 3/25)
Post by: Roy H. on March 28, 2017, 09:55:36 PM
That should do it.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (16-57, #1 on 3/25)
Post by: hwangjini_1 on March 28, 2017, 09:55:40 PM
Thank you sixers!  :D
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (16-57, #1 on 3/25)
Post by: Smokeeye123 on March 28, 2017, 09:55:41 PM
WE ARE ALL 76ERS FANS TONIGHT BOIIIIIIII!!!!

THANK YOU PHILLY!!!!

Our odds of keeping the #1 odds in the draft just went up big time.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (16-57, #1 on 3/25)
Post by: CelticSooner on March 28, 2017, 09:58:34 PM
Nets are determined to make this interesting. Nice win Sixers.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (16-57, #1 on 3/25)
Post by: Ogaju on March 28, 2017, 10:15:29 PM
Game over in Brooklyn, Celtics win.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (16-57, #1 on 3/25)
Post by: Ogaju on March 28, 2017, 10:16:19 PM
WE ARE ALL 76ERS FANS TONIGHT BOIIIIIIII!!!!

THANK YOU PHILLY!!!!

Our odds of keeping the #1 odds in the draft just went up big time.

Don't you mean big league. Magic Number is 4, I think.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (16-57, #1 on 3/25)
Post by: Ilikesports17 on March 28, 2017, 10:22:23 PM
Nets have to finish 5-3 to have a chance at tying the Lakers.

The Nets have not gone 5-3 in any 8 game stretch since the 2014-2015 season.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (16-57, #1 on 3/25)
Post by: Adelaide Celt on March 28, 2017, 10:28:54 PM
Raise the cat

(http://cdnph.upi.com/ph/st/th/3671485358874/2017/i/14853613068774/v2.1/Philadelphia-76ers-fans-Raise-the-cat-after-teams-victories.jpg?lg=4)
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (16-57, #1 on 3/25)
Post by: fairweatherfan on March 28, 2017, 10:32:15 PM
Laker win (eww) against the Wizards would be huge right now!! Go (to hell) Lakers!
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (16-57, #1 on 3/25)
Post by: 86MaxwellSmart on March 28, 2017, 11:36:16 PM
Laker win (eww) against the Wizards would be huge right now!! Go (to hell) Lakers!

Fakers up 3 at halftime
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (16-58, #1 on 3/27)
Post by: 86MaxwellSmart on March 29, 2017, 12:06:15 AM
Fakers up 16 with 15 minutes to go
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (16-58, #1 on 3/27)
Post by: Emmette Bryant on March 29, 2017, 12:14:40 AM
Lakers have made their last 15 shots in a row.

I'll give a TP to anyone on the East Coast who is up paying attention to this game instead of going to bed.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (16-58, #1 on 3/27)
Post by: Ogaju on March 29, 2017, 12:17:12 AM
I am monitoring the game here on the west coast. Not watching, but monitoring. If the Lakers begin to slip I will watch it because that often seems to help the Lakers win.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (16-58, #1 on 3/27)
Post by: SparzWizard on March 29, 2017, 12:20:56 AM
LETS GO LAKERS!!!

Beat Washington to drop them to #4 seed for a potential BOS-WSH playoff game, and distance yourselves from the Brooklyn Draft Race!  ;D
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (16-58, #1 on 3/27)
Post by: CelticSooner on March 29, 2017, 12:23:12 AM
Lakers look like they'll win another game or two regardless of tonight. C's are fine.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (16-58, #1 on 3/27)
Post by: trickybilly on March 29, 2017, 12:24:17 AM
Russel was a nice pick at the end of the day.

GO LAKERS!!

Wait, what the Edited.  Profanity and masked profanity are against forum rules and may result in discipline.?
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (16-58, #1 on 3/27)
Post by: SparzWizard on March 29, 2017, 12:25:38 AM
Russel was a nice pick at the end of the day.

GO LAKERS!!

Wait, what the ****?

Gosh, these days I find myself too easy rooting for the Lakers to win meaningless games, screw their draft game, and miss the playoffs ;D
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (16-58, #1 on 3/27)
Post by: csfansince60s on March 29, 2017, 12:27:25 AM
Was going to post when Fakers up 13at end of 3.

Didn't want to jinx them(us), and now Wiz made lead disappear.

[dang],
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (16-58, #1 on 3/27)
Post by: Ogaju on March 29, 2017, 12:31:03 AM
Lakers are absolutely worthless.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (16-58, #1 on 3/27)
Post by: Ogaju on March 29, 2017, 12:31:45 AM
They are doing all they can to lose the game.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (16-58, #1 on 3/27)
Post by: Ogaju on March 29, 2017, 12:34:38 AM
HAHAHAHA Wizards will not allow the Lakers to tank.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (16-58, #1 on 3/27)
Post by: Ogaju on March 29, 2017, 12:38:23 AM
Nice while it lasted.... Wizards about to go up by 4.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (16-58, #1 on 3/27)
Post by: colincb on March 29, 2017, 12:38:29 AM
Russel was a nice pick at the end of the day.

GO LAKERS!!

Wait, what the ****?

Russell sucks. Decent playmaker, below average shooter, lousy defender.

He's blowing this game.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (16-58, #1 on 3/27)
Post by: Ogaju on March 29, 2017, 12:41:57 AM
Russel was a nice pick at the end of the day.

GO LAKERS!!

Wait, what the ****?

Russell sucks. Decent playmaker, below average shooter, lousy defender.

He's blowing this game.

he single handedly shot Wizards into lead.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (16-58, #1 on 3/27)
Post by: jpotter33 on March 29, 2017, 12:43:00 AM
Randle is worthless. He's a complete mess defensively, and he makes way too many dumb plays overall on both sides of the ball.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (16-58, #1 on 3/27)
Post by: positivitize on March 29, 2017, 12:43:22 AM
LA players are in on the tank
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (16-58, #1 on 3/27)
Post by: SparzWizard on March 29, 2017, 12:46:52 AM
Absolute garbage. That's where the Lakers belong
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (16-58, #1 on 3/27)
Post by: CelticSooner on March 29, 2017, 12:57:31 AM
They've certainly mastered the art. Give the fans something to cheer about all the way until the end.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (16-58, #1 on 3/27)
Post by: Ogaju on March 29, 2017, 12:57:54 AM
Absolute garbage. That's where the Lakers belong

more like the sewage tank.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (16-58, #1 on 3/27)
Post by: 86MaxwellSmart on March 29, 2017, 01:30:53 AM
27 point turnaround in like 13 minutes...WOW---now That's Tanking.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (16-58, #1 on 3/27)
Post by: tarheelsxxiii on March 29, 2017, 01:32:43 AM
Absolute garbage. That's where the Lakers belong

more like the sewage tank.

At the altar with ex-wife #3. 
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (16-58, #1 on 3/27)
Post by: blink on March 29, 2017, 01:43:33 AM
27 point turnaround in like 13 minutes...WOW---now That's Tanking.

Yeah that box score really jumped out at me when I see 37 laker points in the 3rd and like 13 in the fourth.  Makes you question if the players are in on it.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (16-58, #1 on 3/27)
Post by: knuckleballer on March 29, 2017, 02:34:24 AM
27 point turnaround in like 13 minutes...WOW---now That's Tanking.

Yeah that box score really jumped out at me when I see 37 laker points in the 3rd and like 13 in the fourth.  Makes you question if the players are in on it.

I would love to hear a player admit publicly that they were instructed, in one way or another, to lose on purpose.  That would shake the league up.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (16-58, #1 on 3/27)
Post by: mef730 on March 29, 2017, 10:28:07 AM
27 point turnaround in like 13 minutes...WOW---now That's Tanking.

Yeah that box score really jumped out at me when I see 37 laker points in the 3rd and like 13 in the fourth.  Makes you question if the players are in on it.

I would love to hear a player admit publicly that they were instructed, in one way or another, to lose on purpose.  That would shake the league up.

Wonder how many draft picks that would cost the Lakers. Let's put Roger Goodell on the case. We know he believes that truth should never get in the way of a good story.

Mike
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (16-58, #1 on 3/27)
Post by: The One on March 29, 2017, 11:06:12 AM
Larry Nance was a negative 17.

Tyler Ennis was a negative 24 and was 0 - 4 in the fourth quarter.


Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (16-58, #1 on 3/27)
Post by: footey on March 29, 2017, 11:24:54 AM
Randle is worthless. He's a complete mess defensively, and he makes way too many dumb plays overall on both sides of the ball.

But you'd trade him for Marcus Smart, right?
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (16-58, #1 on 3/27)
Post by: GreenShooter on March 29, 2017, 05:32:31 PM
It's OK the Lakers lost last night. It's FKN great that the Nets lost. VERY winnable game can be crossed of the list. They can still pull one out of their arse between now and the end but that was a BIG one in our favor, I thought.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (16-58, #1 on 3/27)
Post by: jpotter33 on March 29, 2017, 05:46:20 PM
Randle is worthless. He's a complete mess defensively, and he makes way too many dumb plays overall on both sides of the ball.

But you'd trade him for Marcus Smart, right?

Surely this is sarcasm lol Because I've long been an ardent supporter of Smart and proponent of picking him over Randle.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (16-58, #1 on 3/27)
Post by: mef730 on March 30, 2017, 11:52:14 AM
On the plus side, Detroit absolutely has to win tonight to have even a prayer of making the playoffs.

Mike
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (16-58, #1 on 3/27)
Post by: slamtheking on March 30, 2017, 12:59:22 PM
8 games left for Nets and LA.  LA has a 5 game lead.  #1 pick going into the lottery is ours.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (16-58, #1 on 3/27)
Post by: hwangjini_1 on March 30, 2017, 03:58:50 PM
and what is also so great is that next year we will have another thread on this exact same topic!  ;D

i wonder how many folks will post the same posts next year as they did this year?

oh, and on draftexpress for 2018, 5 out of the top 6 picks are pf or c. next year will be fun.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (16-58, #1 on 3/27)
Post by: slamtheking on March 30, 2017, 04:16:07 PM
and what is also so great is that next year we will have another thread on this exact same topic!  ;D

i wonder how many folks will post the same posts next year as they did this year?

oh, and on draftexpress for 2018, 5 out of the top 6 picks are pf or c. next year will be fun.
Going into last season I said we'd get 2 top 5 picks  and at worst a top 10 in 2018.  I think next year will be another top 5 pick.  Nets have nothing to entice good free agents to sign with them.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (16-58, #1 on 3/27)
Post by: Ilikesports17 on March 30, 2017, 04:20:38 PM
and what is also so great is that next year we will have another thread on this exact same topic!  ;D

i wonder how many folks will post the same posts next year as they did this year?

oh, and on draftexpress for 2018, 5 out of the top 6 picks are pf or c. next year will be fun.
Going into last season I said we'd get 2 top 5 picks  and at worst a top 10 in 2018.  I think next year will be another top 5 pick.  Nets have nothing to entice good free agents to sign with them.
Ive predicted 7-10 and 3-5 in each of the past 2 years, so ill be sure to low ball them again so we can grab another top 3 pick.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (16-58, #1 on 3/27)
Post by: footey on March 30, 2017, 06:28:37 PM
Randle is worthless. He's a complete mess defensively, and he makes way too many dumb plays overall on both sides of the ball.

But you'd trade him for Marcus Smart, right?

Surely this is sarcasm lol Because I've long been an ardent supporter of Smart and proponent of picking him over Randle.

Yeah it wasn't directed at you, just a general comment on some guys still regretting taking Marcus over Randle no matter what LOL.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (16-58, #1 on 3/27)
Post by: colincb on March 30, 2017, 07:20:45 PM
8 games left for Nets and LA.  LA has a 5 game lead.  #1 pick going into the lottery is ours.

Probably, but not a lock. Good chance Lakers lose all their remaining games. If Chicago is still in the running for the 8th spot at the end, I'd think it's closer to a lock as they play BKN twice in the last 3 games with our game vs BKN sandwiched in the middle.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (16-58, #1 on 3/27)
Post by: celticsclay on March 30, 2017, 07:50:03 PM
8 games left for Nets and LA.  LA has a 5 game lead.  #1 pick going into the lottery is ours.

Probably, but not a lock. Good chance Lakers lose all their remaining games. If Chicago is still in the running for the 8th spot at the end, I'd think it's closer to a lock as they play BKN twice in the last 3 games with our game vs BKN sandwiched in the middle.

I wish Brooklyn was playing anyone besides Detroit right now. Detroit has just been playing like one of the worst teams in the league.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (16-58, #1 on 3/27)
Post by: trickybilly on March 30, 2017, 08:14:34 PM
This game:

Morris >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>everyone else on the court
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (16-58, #1 on 3/27)
Post by: mef730 on March 30, 2017, 09:02:00 PM
and what is also so great is that next year we will have another thread on this exact same topic!  ;D

i wonder how many folks will post the same posts next year as they did this year?

oh, and on draftexpress for 2018, 5 out of the top 6 picks are pf or c. next year will be fun.

I'm already preparing my "indignant frustration" posts, targeted at those games that BKN should have lost and that I'm sure that they're winning just to make me miserable.

But I've got Sacramento as the big loser next year. I think BKN is playing for second-worst.

Mike
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (16-58, #1 on 3/27)
Post by: MattyIce on March 30, 2017, 09:37:08 PM
nice job detroit allowing a 12-2 run after being up by 6
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (16-58, #1 on 3/27)
Post by: Smokeeye123 on March 30, 2017, 09:37:27 PM
Brook Lopez has been the tank derailer as of late.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (16-58, #1 on 3/27)
Post by: trickybilly on March 30, 2017, 09:37:27 PM
UNBELIEVABLE

Brook Lopez with a side-aside 3, followed by a Curry-3
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (16-58, #1 on 3/27)
Post by: Smokeeye123 on March 30, 2017, 09:42:43 PM
MY BOY ISH SMITH THO
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (16-58, #1 on 3/27)
Post by: trickybilly on March 30, 2017, 09:44:01 PM
C'mon Brook, a 45 foot three??
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (16-58, #1 on 3/27)
Post by: Roy H. on March 30, 2017, 09:45:05 PM
Free drinks for Ish next time he's in Boston!
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (16-58, #1 on 3/27)
Post by: Thruthelookingglass on March 30, 2017, 09:46:28 PM
Suspense is killing me.  End it Detroit
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (16-58, #1 on 3/27)
Post by: CelticSooner on March 30, 2017, 09:47:02 PM
Whew. Thought I was going to have to hit the panic button tonight. My god Detroit stinks.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (16-58, #1 on 3/27)
Post by: Roy H. on March 30, 2017, 09:49:19 PM
Whew. Thought I was going to have to hit the panic button tonight. My god Detroit stinks.

Seriously. The Nets shot 37%, got outrebounded by seven, took 5 fewer foul shots, had more turnovers... and they still almost won.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (16-58, #1 on 3/27)
Post by: Smokeeye123 on March 30, 2017, 09:49:31 PM
Another big loss for the Nets! As long as they dont win 5 of their next 7 we are assured a top 4 pick and likely top 3! One of Fultz, Ball, Jackson, or Tatum are going to be wearing Green next year!!
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (16-58, #1 on 3/27)
Post by: colincb on March 30, 2017, 09:49:58 PM
Nets lose, Nets lose, Nets loooooooooooose!!!

Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (16-58, #1 on 3/27)
Post by: footey on March 30, 2017, 09:50:08 PM
3 more to go!!

Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (16-58, #1 on 3/27)
Post by: BringToughnessBack on March 30, 2017, 09:54:34 PM
Great to be Green! Wouldn't be any fun if it was easy. Pistons stink. No wonder they considered dumping Drummond..2 points vs Nets...wow.....-3 for night...pee eew :laugh:
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (16-58, #1 on 3/27)
Post by: positivitize on March 30, 2017, 09:57:21 PM
Magic
Hawks (2nd night of b2b)
@76ers
@Magic
Bulls
@Celtics
@Bulls

Can't lose 3 of these. That number goes down each time the Lakers win.

Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (16-58, #1 on 3/27)
Post by: MattyIce on March 30, 2017, 09:58:45 PM
Great to be Green! Wouldn't be any fun if it was easy. Pistons stink. No wonder they considered dumping Drummond..2 points vs Nets...wow.....-3 for night...pee eew :laugh:

i don't wanna have "fun" anymore! 
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (16-58, #1 on 3/27)
Post by: Rick Robeys Return on March 30, 2017, 10:08:57 PM
3....its a magic number!
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (16-58, #1 on 3/27)
Post by: Smokeeye123 on March 30, 2017, 11:03:54 PM
Magic
Hawks (2nd night of b2b)
@76ers
@Magic
Bulls
@Celtics
@Bulls

Can't lose 3 of these. That number goes down each time the Lakers win.

We will thump the Nets at home, they will at least lose 1 out of the two games with the Bulls who will be playing for the playoffs. They just need a loss against the Magic, Hawks, 76ers or  Magic. My money is on the hawks. (Back to back, revenge game, theyll be healthier, etc.)
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (16-58, #1 on 3/27)
Post by: Ogaju on March 30, 2017, 11:04:20 PM
Game over in Detroit, Celtics win !!!!
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (16-58, #1 on 3/27)
Post by: Ogaju on March 30, 2017, 11:05:11 PM
Nets are trying to win, Lakers are trying to lose... what a season.

Magic number is 3.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (16-59, #1 on 3/30)
Post by: hwangjini_1 on March 30, 2017, 11:56:30 PM
even if the lakers win no more games this season, the nets would need to go 5 and 2 the rest of the way. tough order for a team that bad.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (16-59, #1 on 3/30)
Post by: Ilikesports17 on March 30, 2017, 11:58:26 PM
even if the lakers win no more games this season, the nets would need to go 5 and 2 the rest of the way. tough order for a team that bad.
havent done that since a 5 game win streak at the end of the '14-'15 season.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (16-59, #1 on 3/30)
Post by: SCeltic34 on March 31, 2017, 12:02:57 AM
even if the lakers win no more games this season, the nets would need to go 5 and 2 the rest of the way. tough order for a team that bad.

Yup.  It's not going to happen, especially since they'll rest Brook down the stretch.

Even though I've been really cautious about saying this prematurely, I'll stupidly say it now - Guaranteed top 4 pick.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (16-59, #1 on 3/30)
Post by: aingeforthree on March 31, 2017, 12:18:23 AM
even if the lakers win no more games this season, the nets would need to go 5 and 2 the rest of the way. tough order for a team that bad.

Yup.  It's not going to happen, especially since they'll rest Brook down the stretch.

Even though I've been really cautious about saying this prematurely, I'll stupidly say it now - Guaranteed top 4 pick.

Dang. Ainge is keeping that pick for sure. Got to. You get Fultz, Ball, Jackson, or Tatum.

Sweet.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (16-59, #1 on 3/30)
Post by: CelticsElite on March 31, 2017, 12:22:52 AM
Can't wait for the lottery. It's gonna be nerve wrecking but exciting knowing that as of right now we're nearly guaranteed a top 4 pick. Any of those 4 are good. Even if we get the 5th somehow, fox is a great player.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (16-59, #1 on 3/30)
Post by: GreenShooter on March 31, 2017, 07:32:03 AM
What is the official "magic number" now, 2? That's at least for a tie, right? Lakers have Sacramento and Minnesota at home next week so we may (though now seems unlikely) have to wait until next Friday to officially lock up the "top seed". Brooklyn has Orlando at home but have 4 lose-able games in a row after that (ATL, @Phi, @ORL, CHI). 25% here we come!
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (16-59, #1 on 3/30)
Post by: mef730 on March 31, 2017, 11:58:42 AM
What is the official "magic number" now, 2? That's at least for a tie, right? Lakers have Sacramento and Minnesota at home next week so we may (though now seems unlikely) have to wait until next Friday to officially lock up the "top seed". Brooklyn has Orlando at home but have 4 lose-able games in a row after that (ATL, @Phi, @ORL, CHI). 25% here we come!

2 is a tie, 3 is the win.

Mike
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (16-59, #1 on 3/30)
Post by: BringToughnessBack on March 31, 2017, 07:23:08 PM
What is the official "magic number" now, 2? That's at least for a tie, right? Lakers have Sacramento and Minnesota at home next week so we may (though now seems unlikely) have to wait until next Friday to officially lock up the "top seed". Brooklyn has Orlando at home but have 4 lose-able games in a row after that (ATL, @Phi, @ORL, CHI). 25% here we come!

Scratch 76ers from list of losable games for Nets, they just shut down Covington and Okafor...separate note, the Lakers added one more to the pile of not playing the rest of the year(Zubac).

http://www.nba.com/article/2017/03/31/sixers-shutting-down-jahlil-okafor-and-robert-covington

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nba/2017/03/31/lakers-shut-down-rookie-zubac-for-season-with-ankle-sprain/99881030/
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (16-59, #1 on 3/30)
Post by: Ogaju on March 31, 2017, 09:51:16 PM
Magic number is 2 if we take care of business and beat the Nets.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (16-59, #1 on 3/30)
Post by: nickagneta on March 31, 2017, 10:21:05 PM
What is the official "magic number" now, 2? That's at least for a tie, right? Lakers have Sacramento and Minnesota at home next week so we may (though now seems unlikely) have to wait until next Friday to officially lock up the "top seed". Brooklyn has Orlando at home but have 4 lose-able games in a row after that (ATL, @Phi, @ORL, CHI). 25% here we come!

Scratch 76ers from list of losable games for Nets, they just shut down Covington and Okafor...separate note, the Lakers added one more to the pile of not playing the rest of the year(Zubac).

http://www.nba.com/article/2017/03/31/sixers-shutting-down-jahlil-okafor-and-robert-covington

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nba/2017/03/31/lakers-shut-down-rookie-zubac-for-season-with-ankle-sprain/99881030/
At this pount does it matter? Does anyone here really believe that the Nets are going to win 6 of 7 games while the Lakers lose 7 straight and fall into the 2nd worst record slot? Anyone? Really, anyone at all?
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (16-59, #1 on 3/30)
Post by: Roy H. on March 31, 2017, 10:21:21 PM
Magic number is 2 if we take care of business and beat the Nets.

If we play like we did tonight, that's not a given.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (16-59, #1 on 3/30)
Post by: CelticSooner on April 01, 2017, 06:20:42 PM
Anyone see those last two plays by the Magic. One was hilarious while the other was freakishly athletic. Gordon  :o
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (16-59, #1 on 3/30)
Post by: CelticSooner on April 01, 2017, 08:04:32 PM
No help from the Tragic tonight. Nets now 17-59.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (16-59, #1 on 3/30)
Post by: csfansince60s on April 01, 2017, 08:17:18 PM
No help from the Tragic tonight. Nets now 17-59.

Amazing.

Magic and Gordon gave us all we could handle last night and then roll over vs the Nyets!!!

WTH?!?
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (16-59, #1 on 3/30)
Post by: jakeopp on April 01, 2017, 08:38:02 PM
This is going to be very close by the end of the season. Lakers are tanking to the finish line and i'll be shocked if they win again. The Nets have another easy win against the Magic on 4/6, they play the Sixers who just shut down Okafor & Covington, the Hawks kind of suck lately so I have no expectations there, the Celtics always play them close, Bulls are finally playing better so hopefully they're playing meaningful games on 4/8 and 4/12 at least.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (16-59, #1 on 3/30)
Post by: nickagneta on April 01, 2017, 08:55:53 PM
Posted this in the ototheworrying about the Nets thread:

Over their last 20 games, the Nets are 8-12. Projecting that .400 winning percentage to their last 6 games means they most likely win only 2-3 more games.

Meanwhile the Lakers are 2-18 over their last 20 games and project to win either 0 or 1 game the rest of the way.

Just don't see the Nets catching the Lakers. Especially given each team's schedule. My guess is the Nets end up 2 games behind LA.

Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (16-59, #1 on 3/30)
Post by: 86MaxwellSmart on April 01, 2017, 09:14:00 PM
Just knew that Orlando would wimp out today vs. BK---left it all on the court in Boston last night---now we gotta pray for an Atlanta win tomorrow...They lost today.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (16-59, #1 on 3/30)
Post by: chambers on April 01, 2017, 10:58:32 PM
everything will be fine. Don't the Nets have to winnevery game except one to even make this a conversation? That's not happening  guys relax!
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (16-59, #1 on 3/30)
Post by: Ogaju on April 01, 2017, 11:04:00 PM
Just knew that Orlando would wimp out today vs. BK---left it all on the court in Boston last night---now we gotta pray for an Atlanta win tomorrow...They lost today.

We are number 1 we are going to get the best of each team we play. We have to take care of business and beat the Nets, their magic number becomes two other losses. They will find a way to lose two more. That takes care of the tanking Lakers.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (16-59, #1 on 3/30)
Post by: RockinRyA on April 01, 2017, 11:15:36 PM
The Bulls have been playing better recently and is playing for a playoff spot, I think they end this discussion for us.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (16-59, #1 on 3/30)
Post by: CelticSooner on April 01, 2017, 11:36:59 PM
everything will be fine. Don't the Nets have to winnevery game except one to even make this a conversation? That's not happening  guys relax!

They have to win 4 of 6 to tie the Lakers at the moment. Tomorrow is a huge game. ATL wins and it's a wrap.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (16-59, #1 on 3/30)
Post by: SHAQATTACK on April 01, 2017, 11:53:26 PM
Johnson and Buss have completely tanked the Lakers .  End of story , that's what he wanted for years , he was critical of previous FO ,  for not going the all out route .  They were trying to balance TV rating , fan appeal , walking a tightrope like Danny did between trying to lose and looking like a real NBA team.  He ll tank the Lakers every year till he gets KObe type replacements.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (16-59, #1 on 3/30)
Post by: hpantazo on April 02, 2017, 10:42:31 AM
Johnson and Buss have completely tanked the Lakers .  End of story , that's what he wanted for years , he was critical of previous FO ,  for not going the all out route .  They were trying to balance TV rating , fan appeal , walking a tightrope like Danny did between trying to lose and looking like a real NBA team.  He ll tank the Lakers every year till he gets KObe type replacements.

The majority of the league has been trying that approach for decades now. It rarely works because there are not many Kobe type players.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (16-59, #1 on 3/30)
Post by: SHAQATTACK on April 02, 2017, 10:51:32 AM
Johnson and Buss have completely tanked the Lakers .  End of story , that's what he wanted for years , he was critical of previous FO ,  for not going the all out route .  They were trying to balance TV rating , fan appeal , walking a tightrope like Danny did between trying to lose and looking like a real NBA team.  He ll tank the Lakers every year till he gets KObe type replacements.

The majority of the league has been trying that approach for decades now. It rarely works because there are not many Kobe type players.

There needs to incentives NOT to tank ,  teams should also be rewarded for playing on though adversity .  Throwing away an entire season a in the name , nbelittling the spirt of sport and screw the paying fans to get a top player seems wrong on so many levels.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (16-59, #1 on 3/30)
Post by: GreenShooter on April 02, 2017, 11:20:32 AM
I think the Lakers tanking is more related to the Suns tanking and not trying to catch the Nets. Lakers want to finish at least 2nd worst so they can try to land a top 3 pick. Otherwise, it belongs to Philly. With the Suns on their tail I see the Lakers intentionally losing all of their winnable games (Sacramento, Minnesota and N.O.).
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (16-59, #1 on 3/30)
Post by: Granath on April 02, 2017, 11:36:24 AM
Johnson and Buss have completely tanked the Lakers .  End of story , that's what he wanted for years , he was critical of previous FO ,  for not going the all out route .  They were trying to balance TV rating , fan appeal , walking a tightrope like Danny did between trying to lose and looking like a real NBA team.  He ll tank the Lakers every year till he gets KObe type replacements.

The majority of the league has been trying that approach for decades now. It rarely works because there are not many Kobe type players.

There needs to incentives NOT to tank ,  teams should also be rewarded for playing on though adversity .  Throwing away an entire season a in the name , nbelittling the spirt of sport and screw the paying fans to get a top player seems wrong on so many levels.

The problem is that finding incentives not to tank are exceptionally difficult. Many "incentives" are merely punishments for truly horrible teams. So an even chance for all lottery teams just moves the incentive to tank to teams competing for the #8 playoff spot. If Lebron is in the draft then I'm forgoing that #8 seed to get around a 10% chance to land a once-in-a-generation talent.

My idea is that the lottery chance for the #1 pick for the worst team directly relates to the number of wins multiplied by a factor (like 1.5). So if you tank and end up with 15 wins, the chance for getting the overall #1 is 22.5%. If you win a couple more games (say 20) then your odds go up to 30%. The odds for all the rest of the teams in the lottery are subsequently adjusted as the odds for the overall #1 go up or down.

Of course, this system has problems too. In the case of Brooklyn, they could literally have a reverse incentive to tank. Let's say they traded Lopez for the #10 overall pick. Their incentive to lose games to lower the chance of Boston getting the overall #1 raises their chance to get lucky in the lottery.

There's really no good system to eliminate tanking. It's going to happen. The best thing you can do is to mitigate it, which they've tried to do with the lottery.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (16-59, #1 on 3/30)
Post by: greece66 on April 02, 2017, 11:42:22 AM
I think the Lakers tanking is more related to the Suns tanking and not trying to catch the Nets. Lakers want to finish at least 2nd worst so they can try to land a top 3 pick. Otherwise, it belongs to Philly. With the Suns on their tail I see the Lakers intentionally losing all of their winnable games (Sacramento, Minnesota and N.O.).

The 1-3 protection to their pick is prolly a factor. Next year the pick will be unprotected.

Below are the % for a team to get a pick outside the top 3, based on the position it finishes.

1/35.7%
2/44.2%
3/53.1%
4/ 62.2%
5/ 70.9

Here is the table from tankathon.com

(https://i.gyazo.com/81c22f07216c3f5ac8a4b19b86f10f0d.png)
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (16-59, #1 on 3/30)
Post by: Ogaju on April 02, 2017, 05:45:37 PM
This place is about to blowup in a minute.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (16-59, #1 on 3/30)
Post by: Ogaju on April 02, 2017, 05:47:28 PM
tick tock tick tock...
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (16-59, #1 on 3/30)
Post by: Ogaju on April 02, 2017, 05:52:11 PM
what a season of basketball.... I am sure Brooklyn players eyes are fixed on the game right now. lol
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (16-59, #1 on 3/30)
Post by: Ogaju on April 02, 2017, 05:53:24 PM
Magic number is now 1 if Boston takes care of business and beats the Nets.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (16-59, #1 on 3/30)
Post by: Ogaju on April 02, 2017, 05:54:00 PM
Celtics win in Los Angeles....
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (16-59, #1 on 3/30)
Post by: Smokeeye123 on April 02, 2017, 05:55:15 PM
LAKERSSSS WINNNN!!!!

The magic number is now 2 for the Nets!

Lets go Hawks!
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (16-59, #1 on 3/30)
Post by: positivitize on April 02, 2017, 05:55:16 PM
WOO LAKERS WIN

ugh let me wash my mouth out. that's awful.. i cant even

Edited.  Profanity and masked profanity are against forum rules and may result in discipline. THE LAKERS!
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (16-59, #1 on 3/30)
Post by: Ogaju on April 02, 2017, 05:55:59 PM
LAKERSSSS WINNNN!!!!

The magic number is now 2 for the Nets!

Lets go Hawks!

If Boston beats Nets magic number is 1.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (16-59, #1 on 3/30)
Post by: positivitize on April 02, 2017, 05:59:06 PM
LAKERSSSS WINNNN!!!!

The magic number is now 2 for the Nets!

Lets go Hawks!

If Boston beats Nets magic number is 1.

Nets could lose to Hawks tonight. That would put us playing for the best odds when we play the nets next...
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (16-59, #1 on 3/30)
Post by: hpantazo on April 02, 2017, 05:59:39 PM
LAKERSSSS WINNNN!!!!

The magic number is now 2 for the Nets!

Lets go Hawks!

If Boston beats Nets magic number is 1.

If Atlanta beat the Nets tonight, which they likely will, the magic number will be zero.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (16-59, #1 on 3/30)
Post by: Ogaju on April 02, 2017, 06:00:44 PM
Come on Atlanta, get it done.... so Cs can finish off the Nets. HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (16-59, #1 on 3/30)
Post by: footey on April 02, 2017, 06:01:32 PM
Awesome win by Lakers.

Forget everything I ever said about the Lakers tanking. I was only kidding!!!

Thank you, Magic, for letting them play today!!

Go Hawks!!!  Grab back that 5th seed from the Bucks!!!

Why do I take more joy in the Nets clinching last place than in the Celtics clinching first place.

Need to talk to a shrink, LOL...
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (16-59, #1 on 3/30)
Post by: Ogaju on April 02, 2017, 06:03:28 PM
Awesome win by Lakers.

Forget everything I ever said about the Lakers tanking. I was only kidding!!!

Thank you, Magic, for letting them play today!!

Go Hawks!!!  Grab back that 5th seed from the Bucks!!!

Why do I take more joy in the Nets clinching last place than in the Celtics clinching first place.

Need to talk to a shrink, LOL...

Must suck for the Nets to know that every time they lose the Celtics win, and the Lakers it must suck for them that every time they win now, the Celtics win. HAHAHAHAHAHA !!!!
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (16-59, #1 on 3/30)
Post by: footey on April 02, 2017, 06:08:10 PM
Magic number now 2:  Any combo of Laker/PHX wins and Net losses will clinch it.  With 6 games to go, one of them against us, I like our chances now. 
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (16-59, #1 on 3/30)
Post by: Big333223 on April 02, 2017, 06:10:18 PM
Beautiful win by the Lakers. If Phoenix loses to Houston tonight, they'll be a half game behind LA (and thus a half game "ahead" in the lottery position race). If the Lakers can win another game or 2, decrease the odds of keeping their pick while ensuring Brooklyn stays dead last, I'll gladly root for them for now.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (16-59, #1 on 3/30)
Post by: CelticsElite on April 02, 2017, 06:13:01 PM
Over at the Lakers board they're all mad and fighting each other over the win  ;D :D

http://forums.lakersground.net/viewtopic.php?t=181457&start=675
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (16-59, #1 on 3/30)
Post by: Ogaju on April 02, 2017, 06:22:20 PM
HAHA that is funny.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (16-59, #1 on 3/30)
Post by: Neurotic Guy on April 02, 2017, 06:32:47 PM
Lopez with 18 point first quarter v. Hawks.   Hawks down only 5 with a minute left in the 1st.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (16-59, #1 on 3/30)
Post by: Neurotic Guy on April 02, 2017, 06:38:48 PM
Awesome win by Lakers.

Forget everything I ever said about the Lakers tanking. I was only kidding!!!

Thank you, Magic, for letting them play today!!

Go Hawks!!!  Grab back that 5th seed from the Bucks!!!

Why do I take more joy in the Nets clinching last place than in the Celtics clinching first place.

Need to talk to a shrink, LOL...

Must suck for the Nets to know that every time they lose the Celtics win, and the Lakers it must suck for them that every time they win now, the Celtics win. HAHAHAHAHAHA !!!!

You can add to their discouragement that every time the C's win, the Nets lose.  As of now, the Nets are going to swap  their top 4 pick for the C's #27 (could get as low as 28).   Who would have thought at the time of the trade that the C's would be swapping #26-28 in 2017.  Amazing.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (16-59, #1 on 3/30)
Post by: SHAQATTACK on April 02, 2017, 06:40:44 PM
Over at the Lakers board they're all mad and fighting each other over the win  ;D :D

http://forums.lakersground.net/viewtopic.php?t=181457&start=675

Just like the owners and front office were.  Jim and Mitch mostly wanted to trade and get better and play ball for the fans etc.   Jean Buss and Ervin want to tank the season .   

The non tankers point to Celtics , Bucks , Heat , Jazz ....play n ball ....no quit n.

The other group love Mr Hankie and the tankies

Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (16-59, #1 on 3/30)
Post by: Ogaju on April 02, 2017, 06:42:06 PM
Awesome win by Lakers.

Forget everything I ever said about the Lakers tanking. I was only kidding!!!

Thank you, Magic, for letting them play today!!

Go Hawks!!!  Grab back that 5th seed from the Bucks!!!

Why do I take more joy in the Nets clinching last place than in the Celtics clinching first place.

Need to talk to a shrink, LOL...

Must suck for the Nets to know that every time they lose the Celtics win, and the Lakers it must suck for them that every time they win now, the Celtics win. HAHAHAHAHAHA !!!!

You can add to their discouragement that every time the C's win, the Nets lose.  As of now, the Nets are going to swap  their top 4 pick for the C's #27 (could get as low as 28).   Who would have thought at the time of the trade that the C's would be swapping #26-28 in 2017.  Amazing.

Great point, that was most probably not close to consideration at all. TP!
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (16-59, #1 on 3/30)
Post by: Denis998 on April 02, 2017, 07:03:33 PM
If Brooklyn looses today, we will have full control over having the top seed and best odds in the lottery.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (16-59, #1 on 3/30)
Post by: CelticSooner on April 02, 2017, 07:05:23 PM
Figured the Lakers would win another game but against Memphis? lol

That's a wrap folks.  :D
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (16-59, #1 on 3/30)
Post by: SHAQATTACK on April 02, 2017, 07:07:36 PM
Atlanta sucks bad without Milsap ...hope he can make the diff
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (16-59, #1 on 3/30)
Post by: SHAQATTACK on April 02, 2017, 07:26:30 PM
I think Nets gonna win again.  Hawks play n no defense
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (16-59, #1 on 3/30)
Post by: CelticsElite on April 02, 2017, 07:26:43 PM
Nets are outperforming. They're full of dleaguers and undrafted free agents
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (16-59, #1 on 3/30)
Post by: The One on April 02, 2017, 07:39:19 PM
Lopez is a monstah!!!
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (16-59, #1 on 3/30)
Post by: SHAQATTACK on April 02, 2017, 07:53:18 PM
Lin / Lopez > Hawks  :-X



So much for Howard being a monster on defense ...... worthless corpse
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (16-59, #1 on 3/30)
Post by: SCeltic34 on April 02, 2017, 07:59:40 PM
Howard isn't giving even a sliver of effort out there.  Poor defensive stance and not even making an effort to contest a shot around the painted area.  Not setting good screens for his teammates.  It seems to be partially in response to him not being involved on offense.

I'm so glad he didn't end up with us.  He's the anti-KG.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (16-59, #1 on 3/30)
Post by: CelticsElite on April 02, 2017, 08:00:15 PM
If you want a good laugh, check out the infighting between Lakers fans about their win today  :D
http://forums.lakersground.net/viewtopic.php?t=181457&start=675
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (16-59, #1 on 3/30)
Post by: CelticSooner on April 02, 2017, 08:01:55 PM
Hawks are crap but you dang well they'll play all world against the C's.  ::)
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (16-59, #1 on 3/30)
Post by: Ogaju on April 02, 2017, 08:04:18 PM
Atlanta is garbage.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (16-59, #1 on 3/30)
Post by: footey on April 02, 2017, 08:08:14 PM
If Nets don't trade Lopez in off-season, trading the 2018 Nets pick for the right player makes sense.  I think our days of high lottery value are running out after 2017.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (16-59, #1 on 3/30)
Post by: Neurotic Guy on April 02, 2017, 08:17:46 PM
Dang Hawks -- could have put a nice bow on the weekend. But no. Down 6 with 2:30 left
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (16-59, #1 on 3/30)
Post by: moiso on April 02, 2017, 08:19:03 PM
They will most likely have the least amount of talent in the league next year too.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (16-59, #1 on 3/30)
Post by: Smokeeye123 on April 02, 2017, 08:25:42 PM
Welp, today's still a win for us regardless. It's the same as if the nets did lose.

Just need lose 2 out of 5 more.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (16-59, #1 on 3/30)
Post by: Denis998 on April 02, 2017, 08:42:00 PM
Brooklyn beat Atlanta 3/4 times this season. Atlanta sure does suck
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (16-59, #1 on 3/30)
Post by: SHAQATTACK on April 02, 2017, 08:56:23 PM
Lin makes a big difference .  We were lucky he missed as much ad he dd .

I'm not feeling confident .
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (16-59, #1 on 3/30)
Post by: chambers on April 02, 2017, 08:59:12 PM
Lakers win.

So now Nets still have to win 3 out of 5 games to tie them.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (16-59, #1 on 3/30)
Post by: Big333223 on April 02, 2017, 09:40:47 PM
Lakers win.

So now Nets still have to win 3 out of 5 games to tie them.
Even better, it would have to be 4 out of 5 to tie.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (16-59, #1 on 3/30)
Post by: Roy H. on April 02, 2017, 09:43:34 PM
Lakers win.

So now Nets still have to win 3 out of 5 games to tie them.
Even better, it would have to be 4 out of 5 to tie.

Yeah. Basically, we need to beat the Nets, and then Chicago has to win one of their two games with Brooklyn.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (16-59, #1 on 3/30)
Post by: RockinRyA on April 02, 2017, 10:06:35 PM
I imagine the Lakers fans are p---ed.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (16-59, #1 on 3/30)
Post by: Sketch5 on April 02, 2017, 10:53:00 PM
Lakers win.

So now Nets still have to win 3 out of 5 games to tie them.
Even better, it would have to be 4 out of 5 to tie.

Yeah. Basically, we need to beat the Nets, and then Chicago has to win one of their two games with Brooklyn.

Indy,Chi,Atl,Mil,and Miami are all fighting for the last few playoff spots. Chi should step up to at least one of those games.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (16-59, #1 on 3/30)
Post by: SuddenFame on April 02, 2017, 10:53:34 PM
Figured the Lakers would win another game but against Memphis? lol

That's a wrap folks.  :D

Marc Gasol was out
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (16-59, #1 on 3/30)
Post by: Smitty77 on April 02, 2017, 11:22:05 PM
Lakers win.

So now Nets still have to win 3 out of 5 games to tie them.
Even better, it would have to be 4 out of 5 to tie.

Yeah. Basically, we need to beat the Nets, and then Chicago has to win one of their two games with Brooklyn.

Indy,Chi,Atl,Mil,and Miami are all fighting for the last few playoff spots. Chi should step up to at least one of those games.

I think you forgot Charlotte who had a HUGE win at OKC today!!!

Smitty77

P.S.  Sort of hoping Charlotte gets in as a 7 seed if we are a 2 and an 8 seed if we are a 1 as we live about 45 minutes from their arena in Charlotte!!!  My son and I could FINALLY see the Celtics play in the playoffs!!!!
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (16-59, #1 on 3/30)
Post by: footey on April 04, 2017, 04:51:31 PM
Brooklyn favored by 1.5 @ Philly tonight.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (16-59, #1 on 3/30)
Post by: Phantom255x on April 04, 2017, 04:57:44 PM
Hopefully Philly tonight or Chicago in a few days can beat BKN.

Then BOS can "win the best odds of #1" with a win over BKN April 10  ;D

BKN need to finish 4-1 just to tie LAL/PHO. Doubt that happens, they go 3-2 at best IMO.

Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (16-59, #1 on 3/30)
Post by: CelticSooner on April 04, 2017, 05:05:17 PM
So what's the benefit of Lopez still playing?
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (16-59, #1 on 3/30)
Post by: footey on April 04, 2017, 05:25:01 PM
So what's the benefit of Lopez still playing?

They want him to break the all time Nets scoring record before he gets traded this off season.

I'm serious.

From Nets' Daily at SB Nation (quoting Coach Kenny Atkinson):

"NO REST

Asked Saturday night about resting players, like they did last season, Kenny Atkinson said, “We’re not going to rest. I’ve been saying how important it is for us to finish the season strong, and I do think seeing more of Jeremy together with the group is helpful also. We’d love to have positive momentum going into this important offseason.”

That means Lopez will get a chance to break the career scoring record held by Buck Williams. With six games remaining, Lopez is 90 points short of Williams record."
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (18-59, #1 on 4/4)
Post by: CelticSooner on April 04, 2017, 06:23:52 PM
That's a nice story. I guess you gotta look for something to be positive about when your GM mortgages your future to another team lol
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (18-59, #1 on 4/4)
Post by: csfansince60s on April 04, 2017, 06:37:44 PM
That's a nice story. I guess you gotta look for something to be positive about when your GM mortgages your future to another team lol

True, but another truly stupid Nyets decision.

If Lopez gets injured, his value as a tradable asset really plummets.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (18-59, #1 on 4/4)
Post by: CelticSooner on April 04, 2017, 06:41:02 PM
That's a nice story. I guess you gotta look for something to be positive about when your GM mortgages your future to another team lol

True, but another truly stupid Nyets decision.

If Lopez gets injured, his value as a tradable asset really plummets.

I was being facetious. If he got hurt they'd have no one to blame but themselves.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (18-59, #1 on 4/4)
Post by: tazzmaniac on April 04, 2017, 07:00:49 PM
That's a nice story. I guess you gotta look for something to be positive about when your GM mortgages your future to another team lol

True, but another truly stupid Nyets decision.

If Lopez gets injured, his value as a tradable asset really plummets.
Lopez doesn't have much value.  If he did, he'd have already been traded. 
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (18-59, #1 on 4/4)
Post by: CelticSooner on April 04, 2017, 07:53:54 PM
Nets rolling Philly  ::)
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (18-59, #1 on 4/4)
Post by: apc on April 04, 2017, 07:56:02 PM
And here I tought the Sixers are done tanking  :-\
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (18-59, #1 on 4/4)
Post by: Neurotic Guy on April 04, 2017, 08:09:47 PM
And here I tought the Sixers are done tanking  :-\
It'd be stupid for them to tank tonight.   Putting a nail in the Nets would improve their chances of taking that Lakers pick in this draft.   If the Nets win out (except v. the Celtics) and the Suns/Lakers lose out, the Nets/Celts will be in a 3-way tie for the top slot (I think they'd split the ping-pong balls but would coin flip their way to draft order).  In this scenario, the Sixers are at great risk for losing the pick.   Beating the Nets tonight keeps the possibility open that Lakers/Suns will coin flip for the 2nd/3rd slot heading into the lottery -- leaving the Sixers in decent position to pick up the 4th or 5th pick in this draft. 

But the Nets are rolling tonight.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (18-59, #1 on 4/4)
Post by: mef730 on April 04, 2017, 08:16:33 PM
Nets up by about 140 points at halftime. I think we can write this one off. Makes it that much more important to beat them next week.

Mike
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (18-59, #1 on 4/4)
Post by: CelticSooner on April 04, 2017, 08:19:42 PM
Never expected it to reach this point this late in the season. Didn't want to have to pay attention. Oh well
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (18-59, #1 on 4/4)
Post by: tazzmaniac on April 04, 2017, 08:29:25 PM
And here I tought the Sixers are done tanking  :-\
It'd be stupid for them to tank tonight.   Putting a nail in the Nets would improve their chances of taking that Lakers pick in this draft.   If the Nets win out (except v. the Celtics) and the Suns/Lakers lose out, the Nets/Celts will be in a 3-way tie for the top slot (I think they'd split the ping-pong balls but would coin flip their way to draft order).  In this scenario, the Sixers are at great risk for losing the pick.   Beating the Nets tonight keeps the possibility open that Lakers/Suns will coin flip for the 2nd/3rd slot heading into the lottery -- leaving the Sixers in decent position to pick up the 4th or 5th pick in this draft. 

But the Nets are rolling tonight.
Even if the Lakers finish 3rd worst by themselves, the Sixers only have a 53.1% chance of getting the Lakers pick this year.  Beating the Nets has no effect on a Lakers/Suns coin flip assuming there even is one.  The Sixers are better off losing the rest of their games to ensure they finish 5th worst or possibly 4th worst. 

Edit: Actually the coin flip doesn't really matter.  If the Suns and Lakers finish tied, they would split the ping pong balls for the 2nd and 3rd worst record.  If the Nets, Suns and Lakers all finished tied, they would split the ping pongs balls for 1st, 2nd and 3rd worst records.  As long as the Lakers finish outside the top 3, the Sixers get their pick. 
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (18-59, #1 on 4/4)
Post by: The One on April 04, 2017, 08:34:55 PM
Repeat after me...no need to panic...no need to panic. 
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (18-59, #1 on 4/4)
Post by: footey on April 04, 2017, 08:42:12 PM
Nets are a much better team this past month.

A lot of denial on this board of that fact.

Their performance tonight does not surprise me.

Wouldn't be surprised if that beat us. They're a confident group of late.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (18-59, #1 on 4/4)
Post by: SHAQATTACK on April 04, 2017, 08:45:25 PM
I knew this was going to happen . Suns and Lakers are trying to loose

Others teams that are trying to loose will wind up worse than Nets

Nets trying win.

NBA is screwed up.

Our hope now is Lakers are stupid enough to take Ball
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (18-59, #1 on 4/4)
Post by: slamtheking on April 04, 2017, 08:54:21 PM
still not worried.  Nets have 2 games against the Bulls who are fighting for a playoff spot and the game against the C's.  Nets will 2 or 3 more games.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (18-59, #1 on 4/4)
Post by: Big333223 on April 04, 2017, 08:56:06 PM
I knew this was going to happen . Suns and Lakers are trying to loose

Others teams that are trying to loose will wind up worse than Nets

Nets trying win.

NBA is screwed up.

Our hope now is Lakers are stupid enough to take Ball
This is still unlikely. After this win tonight, the Nets would still have to go 3-1 to catch LA/Phoenix and they've got a game against the C's (fighting for #1) and two games against the Bulls (fighting for the playoffs).

All of this assuming LA and Phoenix lose out.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (18-59, #1 on 4/4)
Post by: csfansince60s on April 04, 2017, 09:36:13 PM
I knew this was going to happen . Suns and Lakers are trying to loose

Others teams that are trying to loose will wind up worse than Nets

Nets trying win.

NBA is screwed up.

Our hope now is Lakers are stupid enough to take Ball

Even IF the Fakers finish with a worse record (see how big that "if " is?), they only have a 1 in 4 chance of getting the first pick. (Just like we actually will...bank it).
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (18-59, #1 on 4/4)
Post by: hpantazo on April 04, 2017, 09:42:00 PM
How many top picks did the NBA give the Cavs to get them back into the marketing spotlight? Kyrie Irving, Anthony Bennett, and Andrew Wiggins?

They gave the Lakers D'angelo Russell and Brandon Ingram, they will give them Fultz this summer. From a league marketing/profit standpoint, the Celtics are doing great, they don't need to help us.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (18-59, #1 on 4/4)
Post by: PhoSita on April 04, 2017, 09:44:00 PM
I console myself with the thought that Josh Jackson and Jayson Tatum are both exciting prospects, and if the Celts get one of them there wouldn't be the same controversy over what it means for the roster as there would be if the Celts draft Fultz or Ball.

If they end up at #5, though, I'll be pretty bummed.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (18-59, #1 on 4/4)
Post by: CelticsElite on April 04, 2017, 09:53:56 PM
Nets are going to end as worst team.. Period.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (18-59, #1 on 4/4)
Post by: jambr380 on April 04, 2017, 09:56:09 PM
141 points? How is that even possible with that roster (even against a depleted Philly team)? Nobody even scored more than 16 points either - that is crazy!

Not a great night for the Cs with the Nets win, Washington win, and Toronto loss (assuming we get the 1 seed, big assumption...)
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (18-59, #1 on 4/4)
Post by: Denis998 on April 04, 2017, 10:08:14 PM
141 points? How is that even possible with that roster (even against a depleted Philly team)? Nobody even scored more than 16 points either - that is crazy!

Not a great night for the Cs with the Nets win, Washington win, and Toronto loss (assuming we get the 1 seed, big assumption...)
They scored 143 on NOLA lol. Brooklyn sometimes gets super hot shooting 3s and doesnt seem to stop making them for that game
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (18-59, #1 on 4/4)
Post by: libermaniac on April 04, 2017, 11:34:01 PM
I console myself with the thought that Josh Jackson and Jayson Tatum are both exciting prospects, and if the Celts get one of them there wouldn't be the same controversy over what it means for the roster as there would be if the Celts draft Fultz or Ball.

If they end up at #5, though, I'll be pretty bummed.

It's possible Fox goes before Tatum, so even 5 might not be the end of the world.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (18-59, #1 on 4/4)
Post by: Big333223 on April 05, 2017, 09:47:07 AM
The Nets had 8 guys score at least 12 points last night. That's kind of crazy.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (18-59, #1 on 4/4)
Post by: footey on April 05, 2017, 09:56:22 AM
Nets are going to end as worst team.. Period.

Oh okay.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (18-59, #1 on 4/4)
Post by: Cman on April 05, 2017, 10:02:43 AM
I knew this was going to happen . Suns and Lakers are trying to loose

Others teams that are trying to loose will wind up worse than Nets

Nets trying win.

NBA is screwed up.

Our hope now is Lakers are stupid enough to take Ball
This is still unlikely. After this win tonight, the Nets would still have to go 3-1 to catch LA/Phoenix and they've got a game against the C's (fighting for #1) and two games against the Bulls (fighting for the playoffs).

All of this assuming LA and Phoenix lose out.

Put differently, at this point, we need the Nets to lose 2 of the remaining 4 games against the Bulls (2), Orlando and Celtics. Bulls and Celtics are fighting for playoff seeding, so those will be hard games for Brooklyn to win.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (18-59, #1 on 4/4)
Post by: jambr380 on April 05, 2017, 10:12:18 AM
On a side note, it shouldn't be surprising at all that the Nets beat the barely D-League Sixers - they are missing almost all of their best players. The sky isn't falling. Frankly, we should feel lucky that the Sixers won in their last meeting.

I agree with others on the Cs and two Bulls matchups. If the Nets win all of those, then you just have to tip your caps.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (18-59, #1 on 4/4)
Post by: fairweatherfan on April 05, 2017, 10:22:04 AM
Nets are a much better team this past month.

A lot of denial on this board of that fact.

Their performance tonight does not surprise me.

Wouldn't be surprised if that beat us. They're a confident group of late.

I don't think there's been much denial that they've played a lot better in March/April, but just of the likelihood of them getting out of the basement in spite of their improvement.

Despite how many wins they've racked up recently they STILL can only lose 1 game and even be able to tie LA and/or Phoenix. Actually passing either requires a win out/lose out scenario. A tie's a good bit more likely than it was a month ago, but the odds are still sharply against it.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (18-59, #1 on 4/4)
Post by: SuddenFame on April 05, 2017, 01:46:22 PM
Nets are going to end as worst team.. Period.

I sure hope you're right.
They could very well take both against the Bulls.  Do the Bulls even have anyone to contain Lopez?

Celtics may not be as motivated to beat them if they're locked into the two seed.

It's not having the #1 pick that's the most important thing, just not falling out of the top 4 is paramount. :'(
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (18-59, #1 on 4/4)
Post by: SuddenFame on April 05, 2017, 01:49:11 PM
The Celtics got very lucky with Jeremy Lin's hamstring this year, that much is certain.
It certainly looks like they are a 35-40% win team with him; Definitely an upgrade over the hot garbage they had last year at the point.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (18-59, #1 on 4/4)
Post by: Phantom255x on April 05, 2017, 02:02:05 PM
Nets are going to end as worst team.. Period.

I sure hope you're right.
They could very well take both against the Bulls.  Do the Bulls even have anyone to contain Lopez?

Celtics may not be as motivated to beat them if they're locked into the two seed.

It's not having the #1 pick that's the most important thing, just not falling out of the top 4 is paramount. :'(

Ainge better be grilling his guys to beat the Nets.

He made the trade, and has a perfect chance to secure "best odds for #1" if they beat BKN.

Ainge better be telling his guys, "no fooling around, win this game or re-consider your plans to stay here next season..."  :laugh:
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (18-59, #1 on 4/4)
Post by: Neurotic Guy on April 05, 2017, 09:17:33 PM
Lakers up 19 half-way through the 2nd quarter.  My hopes are low nonetheless -- unless SAS decides that Leonard and LMA need the rest of the night off (Manu not playing). 
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (18-59, #1 on 4/4)
Post by: mef730 on April 05, 2017, 09:45:44 PM
Lakers up 19 half-way through the 2nd quarter.  My hopes are low nonetheless -- unless SAS decides that Leonard and LMA need the rest of the night off (Manu not playing).

Lakers players must have gotten a real talking-to from the GM. A 26 point lead is now 12 at halftime.

Mike
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (18-59, #1 on 4/4)
Post by: hpantazo on April 05, 2017, 10:02:43 PM
Lakers might pull this one out
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (18-59, #1 on 4/4)
Post by: trickybilly on April 05, 2017, 10:04:04 PM
Lakers might pull this one out

not entirely sure, but I think you in the wrong thread.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (18-59, #1 on 4/4)
Post by: Ilikesports17 on April 05, 2017, 10:04:22 PM
we will make this mildly interesting.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (18-59, #1 on 4/4)
Post by: jpotter33 on April 05, 2017, 10:28:40 PM
Holy hell the Lakers might actually beat the Spurs! Please, please, please do it. That'd make tonight not so bad knowing that we could lock up the best odds by tomorrow.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (18-59, #1 on 4/4)
Post by: saltlover on April 05, 2017, 10:30:22 PM
Holy hell the Lakers might actually beat the Spurs! Please, please, please do it. That'd make tonight not so bad knowing that we could lock up the best odds by tomorrow.

Suns are still in the way, but I'm still not worried.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (18-59, #1 on 4/4)
Post by: hpantazo on April 05, 2017, 10:32:47 PM
Lakers might pull this one out

Lakers about to beat the Nets tonight, virtually guaranteeing the Nets finish with the worst record in the league.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (18-59, #1 on 4/4)
Post by: CelticSooner on April 05, 2017, 10:35:21 PM
Lakers fans have to losing their minds lol
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (18-59, #1 on 4/4)
Post by: jpotter33 on April 05, 2017, 10:36:04 PM
Dude, this is BS. The Lakers are blatantly trying to blow this game now. They don't even have any of their main guys in a close game at the end...
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (18-59, #1 on 4/4)
Post by: tankcity! on April 05, 2017, 10:37:38 PM
Can't wait  for 2018 baby. Hopefully we sign a free agent, Lebron gets older, and we make the big jump.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (18-59, #1 on 4/4)
Post by: jpotter33 on April 05, 2017, 10:38:24 PM
Dude, this is BS. The Lakers are blatantly trying to blow this game now. They don't even have any of their main guys in a close game at the end...

They're so bad they can't even tank appropriately lol

That's potentially a franchise-altering win right there with legitimately two first round picks on the line.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (18-59, #1 on 4/4)
Post by: mef730 on April 05, 2017, 10:38:35 PM
Well, at least we got one win tonight.

Mike
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (18-59, #1 on 4/4)
Post by: Ogaju on April 05, 2017, 10:39:08 PM
LAKERS WIN CELTICS WIN !!!!!
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (18-59, #1 on 4/4)
Post by: jambr380 on April 05, 2017, 10:46:25 PM
That huge 2nd quarter lead dissipated quickly. I can't believe the Lakers were able to hold on when only up by 6 entering the 4th. That is awesome!
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (18-59, #1 on 4/4)
Post by: mef730 on April 05, 2017, 10:47:05 PM
Holy hell the Lakers might actually beat the Spurs! Please, please, please do it. That'd make tonight not so bad knowing that we could lock up the best odds by tomorrow.

Suns are still in the way, but I'm still not worried.

The math is on our side, but I'm still a bit nervous.

Phoenix has three games left after tonight, none of which they will likely win.

Fortunately, Orlando has been showing signs of life, and it's going to be tough for them to beat Chicago twice, given that Chicago is fighting for a playoff spot. And I'd like to assume that we will knock them off in Boston. They have to go 3-1 and hope that Phoenix doesn't win anything. The latter is clearly more likely than the former.

BTW, how's daddyhood?

Mike
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (18-59, #1 on 4/4)
Post by: Denis998 on April 05, 2017, 10:47:33 PM
Now the Suns are a problem lol
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (18-59, #1 on 4/4)
Post by: kraidstar on April 05, 2017, 10:48:16 PM
TPs for all on this otherwise gloomy night!

more good news is that now the Lakers have a 3-game homestand with some very winnable games:
vs Sacto
Vs Min
vs NO
@Golden State (who might be resting all their good players)

Phoenix is a little tougher, but they have a couple winnable games too
vs OKC
vs Dallas
@Sacto
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (18-59, #1 on 4/4)
Post by: 86MaxwellSmart on April 05, 2017, 11:41:11 PM
Now the Suns are a problem lol

it's never cut and dry for the C's when it comes to the NBA Lottery....grrrrr.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (16-59, #1 on 3/30)
Post by: Adelaide Celt on April 05, 2017, 11:45:21 PM
Over at the Lakers board they're all mad and fighting each other over the win  ;D :D

http://forums.lakersground.net/viewtopic.php?t=181457&start=675

Quote
(Don't worry Tankers, next game is the Spurs in SA. We WILL lose that one. LOLOLOL)

I imagine all those Laker fans are living in perfect harmony right now  ;D
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (18-59, #1 on 4/4)
Post by: CelticSooner on April 06, 2017, 12:12:28 AM
Check out the Suns game  :o
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (18-59, #1 on 4/4)
Post by: Neurotic Guy on April 06, 2017, 05:26:24 AM
What a great way ro start the day!  A surprise win by LAL making the magic # just 1 to secure the 2nd best lottery odds.  My hatred for LAL runs so deep that it's really only them that I care about  surpassing the Cs. If the Suns overtake or tie,  I can live with it.  Also would be great to see Lakers in the #3 position heading into the lottery - even though I am 100% certain they'll be lucky on lottery night.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (18-59, #1 on 4/4)
Post by: Somebody on April 06, 2017, 05:49:45 AM
Holy hell the Lakers might actually beat the Spurs! Please, please, please do it. That'd make tonight not so bad knowing that we could lock up the best odds by tomorrow.

Suns are still in the way, but I'm still not worried.

The math is on our side, but I'm still a bit nervous.

Phoenix has three games left after tonight, none of which they will likely win.

Fortunately, Orlando has been showing signs of life, and it's going to be tough for them to beat Chicago twice, given that Chicago is fighting for a playoff spot. And I'd like to assume that we will knock them off in Boston. They have to go 3-1 and hope that Phoenix doesn't win anything. The latter is clearly more likely than the former.

BTW, how's daddyhood?

Mike
Saltlover is now a father? Congratulations on entering fatherhood and I wish your family well
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (18-59, #1 on 4/4)
Post by: Neurotic Guy on April 06, 2017, 06:01:56 AM
The playoff rest variable is making its mark on the lottery odds race.  SAS rested KL, LMA, TP and Mills - none playing more than 18 minutes, mostly in the first half.  Manu didn't play. 
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (18-59, #1 on 4/4)
Post by: saltlover on April 06, 2017, 07:36:03 AM
Holy hell the Lakers might actually beat the Spurs! Please, please, please do it. That'd make tonight not so bad knowing that we could lock up the best odds by tomorrow.

Suns are still in the way, but I'm still not worried.

The math is on our side, but I'm still a bit nervous.

Phoenix has three games left after tonight, none of which they will likely win.

Fortunately, Orlando has been showing signs of life, and it's going to be tough for them to beat Chicago twice, given that Chicago is fighting for a playoff spot. And I'd like to assume that we will knock them off in Boston. They have to go 3-1 and hope that Phoenix doesn't win anything. The latter is clearly more likely than the former.

BTW, how's daddyhood?

Mike

Huge meltdown out of nowhere last night.  Lasted about an hour -- I don't think we'd had one last more than ten minutes before since she was about two weeks old.  But it conveniently started at 8, so it prevented me from watching a different meltdown.

Otherwise it's great, thanks!  ;D
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (18-59, #1 on 4/4)
Post by: slamtheking on April 06, 2017, 08:22:03 AM
Holy hell the Lakers might actually beat the Spurs! Please, please, please do it. That'd make tonight not so bad knowing that we could lock up the best odds by tomorrow.

Suns are still in the way, but I'm still not worried.

The math is on our side, but I'm still a bit nervous.

Phoenix has three games left after tonight, none of which they will likely win.

Fortunately, Orlando has been showing signs of life, and it's going to be tough for them to beat Chicago twice, given that Chicago is fighting for a playoff spot. And I'd like to assume that we will knock them off in Boston. They have to go 3-1 and hope that Phoenix doesn't win anything. The latter is clearly more likely than the former.

BTW, how's daddyhood?

Mike

Huge meltdown out of nowhere last night.  Lasted about an hour -- I don't think we'd had one last more than ten minutes before since she was about two weeks old.  But it conveniently started at 8, so it prevented me from watching a different meltdown.

Otherwise it's great, thanks!  ;D
Congrats on the new family addition.  So, inquiring minds want to know -- do call her "Little Salty" or "Saltine"?   ;D
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (18-59, #1 on 4/4)
Post by: mef730 on April 06, 2017, 12:43:16 PM
Holy hell the Lakers might actually beat the Spurs! Please, please, please do it. That'd make tonight not so bad knowing that we could lock up the best odds by tomorrow.

Suns are still in the way, but I'm still not worried.

The math is on our side, but I'm still a bit nervous.

Phoenix has three games left after tonight, none of which they will likely win.

Fortunately, Orlando has been showing signs of life, and it's going to be tough for them to beat Chicago twice, given that Chicago is fighting for a playoff spot. And I'd like to assume that we will knock them off in Boston. They have to go 3-1 and hope that Phoenix doesn't win anything. The latter is clearly more likely than the former.

BTW, how's daddyhood?

Mike

Huge meltdown out of nowhere last night.  Lasted about an hour -- I don't think we'd had one last more than ten minutes before since she was about two weeks old.  But it conveniently started at 8, so it prevented me from watching a different meltdown.

Otherwise it's great, thanks!  ;D

Wait until you hit the Princess stage...

Mike
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (18-59, #1 on 4/4)
Post by: Green-Bananas on April 06, 2017, 06:42:44 PM
Holy hell the Lakers might actually beat the Spurs! Please, please, please do it. That'd make tonight not so bad knowing that we could lock up the best odds by tomorrow.

Suns are still in the way, but I'm still not worried.

The math is on our side, but I'm still a bit nervous.

Phoenix has three games left after tonight, none of which they will likely win.

Fortunately, Orlando has been showing signs of life, and it's going to be tough for them to beat Chicago twice, given that Chicago is fighting for a playoff spot. And I'd like to assume that we will knock them off in Boston. They have to go 3-1 and hope that Phoenix doesn't win anything. The latter is clearly more likely than the former.

BTW, how's daddyhood?

Mike

Huge meltdown out of nowhere last night.  Lasted about an hour -- I don't think we'd had one last more than ten minutes before since she was about two weeks old.  But it conveniently started at 8, so it prevented me from watching a different meltdown.

Otherwise it's great, thanks!  ;D

Wait until you hit the Princess stage...

Mike

Wait til she hits the college stage $$$
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (18-59, #1 on 4/4)
Post by: Phantom255x on April 06, 2017, 06:44:47 PM
Holy hell the Lakers might actually beat the Spurs! Please, please, please do it. That'd make tonight not so bad knowing that we could lock up the best odds by tomorrow.

Suns are still in the way, but I'm still not worried.

The math is on our side, but I'm still a bit nervous.

Phoenix has three games left after tonight, none of which they will likely win.

Fortunately, Orlando has been showing signs of life, and it's going to be tough for them to beat Chicago twice, given that Chicago is fighting for a playoff spot. And I'd like to assume that we will knock them off in Boston. They have to go 3-1 and hope that Phoenix doesn't win anything. The latter is clearly more likely than the former.

BTW, how's daddyhood?

Mike

Huge meltdown out of nowhere last night.  Lasted about an hour -- I don't think we'd had one last more than ten minutes before since she was about two weeks old.  But it conveniently started at 8, so it prevented me from watching a different meltdown.

Otherwise it's great, thanks!  ;D

Wait until you hit the Princess stage...

Mike

Wait til she hits the college stage $$$

Please, @SaltLover will probably be able to manage all the $$$ aspects just like he manages all the Celtics cap questions around here  :laugh:

Btw, congrats @saltlover!
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (18-59, #1 on 4/4)
Post by: csfansince60s on April 06, 2017, 07:28:45 PM
Holy hell the Lakers might actually beat the Spurs! Please, please, please do it. That'd make tonight not so bad knowing that we could lock up the best odds by tomorrow.

Suns are still in the way, but I'm still not worried.

The math is on our side, but I'm still a bit nervous.

Phoenix has three games left after tonight, none of which they will likely win.

Fortunately, Orlando has been showing signs of life, and it's going to be tough for them to beat Chicago twice, given that Chicago is fighting for a playoff spot. And I'd like to assume that we will knock them off in Boston. They have to go 3-1 and hope that Phoenix doesn't win anything. The latter is clearly more likely than the former.

BTW, how's daddyhood?

Mike

Huge meltdown out of nowhere last night.  Lasted about an hour -- I don't think we'd had one last more than ten minutes before since she was about two weeks old.  But it conveniently started at 8, so it prevented me from watching a different meltdown.

Otherwise it's great, thanks!  ;D

Wait until you hit the Princess stage...

Mike

Wait til she hits the college stage $$$

Congrats, salt!!!!!

But, it's not the $$$$ part when they get to college.

It's that increased vulnerability that you feel as a parent, when your "child" of 18 years is living outside your house/control for the first time....that first night for 3 of my kids was such a Edited.  Profanity and masked profanity are against forum rules and may result in discipline.. Fourth time is coming this fall.

My point: savor the moments, even the "meltdowns". Sadly, the moments don't last forever.

Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (18-59, #1 on 4/4)
Post by: Smokeeye123 on April 06, 2017, 07:43:30 PM
Huge night tonight for the Nets. Lets drive this tank into the garage!
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (18-59, #1 on 4/4)
Post by: Green-Bananas on April 06, 2017, 08:11:15 PM
Holy hell the Lakers might actually beat the Spurs! Please, please, please do it. That'd make tonight not so bad knowing that we could lock up the best odds by tomorrow.

Suns are still in the way, but I'm still not worried.

The math is on our side, but I'm still a bit nervous.

Phoenix has three games left after tonight, none of which they will likely win.

Fortunately, Orlando has been showing signs of life, and it's going to be tough for them to beat Chicago twice, given that Chicago is fighting for a playoff spot. And I'd like to assume that we will knock them off in Boston. They have to go 3-1 and hope that Phoenix doesn't win anything. The latter is clearly more likely than the former.

BTW, how's daddyhood?

Mike

Huge meltdown out of nowhere last night.  Lasted about an hour -- I don't think we'd had one last more than ten minutes before since she was about two weeks old.  But it conveniently started at 8, so it prevented me from watching a different meltdown.

Otherwise it's great, thanks!  ;D

Wait until you hit the Princess stage...

Mike

Wait til she hits the college stage $$$

Please, @SaltLover will probably be able to manage all the $$$ aspects just like he manages all the Celtics cap questions around here  :laugh:

Btw, congrats @saltlover!

Of course he will.. Congratulations and may she be blessed with all the best the world has to offer.
And... Banner 18 in the near future  :)
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (18-59, #1 on 4/4)
Post by: mef730 on April 06, 2017, 08:11:29 PM
They can play us to within an inch of our lives but can't destroy the Nets? Sigh.

If Orlando loses this game, I'm canceling my trip to Disney World.

Mike
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (18-59, #1 on 4/4)
Post by: Smokeeye123 on April 06, 2017, 08:32:58 PM
They can play us to within an inch of our lives but can't destroy the Nets? Sigh.

If Orlando loses this game, I'm canceling my trip to Disney World.

Mike

YOU REVERSED JYNXED US MIKE! GOOD JOB!!

Magic up by 15
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (18-59, #1 on 4/4)
Post by: csfansince60s on April 06, 2017, 08:34:10 PM
They can play us to within an inch of our lives but can't destroy the Nets? Sigh.

If Orlando loses this game, I'm canceling my trip to Disney World.

Mike

And the Edited.  Profanity and masked profanity are against forum rules and may result in discipline.n Hawks are looking like the Cavaliers tonight, even though they lost to the nets last week how the heck does that happen?
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (18-59, #1 on 4/4)
Post by: Smokeeye123 on April 06, 2017, 08:47:31 PM
Jodie Meeks is saving us by draining threes.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (18-59, #1 on 4/4)
Post by: Emmette Bryant on April 06, 2017, 08:47:37 PM
Go Jody Go!
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (18-59, #1 on 4/4)
Post by: Phantom255x on April 06, 2017, 08:53:05 PM
Magic lead down to 7.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (18-59, #1 on 4/4)
Post by: Neurotic Guy on April 06, 2017, 08:53:47 PM
Orlando giving it back - lead suddenly down to 7.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (18-59, #1 on 4/4)
Post by: Phantom255x on April 06, 2017, 09:00:13 PM
7 minutes to go. 7 point lead Bosto.. err... Orlando.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (18-59, #1 on 4/4)
Post by: Neurotic Guy on April 06, 2017, 09:01:17 PM
Orlando Celtics now up a dozen. 6 minutes to go.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (18-59, #1 on 4/4)
Post by: Smokeeye123 on April 06, 2017, 09:04:08 PM
Lead back down to 7!

NOTHING COMES EASY. EVERYTHING MUST BE EARNED!

GO MAGIC!!!
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (18-59, #1 on 4/4)
Post by: Ogaju on April 06, 2017, 09:04:20 PM
lol lets go Celtics !!!
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (18-59, #1 on 4/4)
Post by: Neurotic Guy on April 06, 2017, 09:09:25 PM
2:36 left. Orlando up 8 with 2FTs coming up.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (18-59, #1 on 4/4)
Post by: Roy H. on April 06, 2017, 09:13:09 PM
Back to a 5 point margin with 1:14 left. Stupid Magic, close this out.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (18-59, #1 on 4/4)
Post by: Smokeeye123 on April 06, 2017, 09:13:25 PM
...Lead down to 5 again. I gotta hand it to the Nets they make things interesting.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (18-59, #1 on 4/4)
Post by: Neurotic Guy on April 06, 2017, 09:14:01 PM
Was looking good up 10 with 2 to go. Lead down to 5 with 1:16 left.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (18-59, #1 on 4/4)
Post by: Roy H. on April 06, 2017, 09:14:22 PM
...Lead down to 5 again. I gotta hand it to the Nets they make things interesting.

I blame Jeremy Lin.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (18-59, #1 on 4/4)
Post by: Neurotic Guy on April 06, 2017, 09:15:47 PM
...Lead down to 5 again. I gotta hand it to the Nets they make things interesting.

I blame Jeremy Lin.
All better.  Orlando about to seal it.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (18-59, #1 on 4/4)
Post by: Phantom255x on April 06, 2017, 09:15:55 PM
Magic up 9. WOOT.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (18-59, #1 on 4/4)
Post by: Emmette Bryant on April 06, 2017, 09:18:09 PM
This is wonderful think I'll switch over to the Celtics game.  ;)
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (18-59, #1 on 4/4)
Post by: Smokeeye123 on April 06, 2017, 09:18:33 PM
...Lead down to 5 again. I gotta hand it to the Nets they make things interesting.

I blame Jeremy Lin.

The kid deserves a place in the NBA. He can flat out play.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (18-59, #1 on 4/4)
Post by: Roy H. on April 06, 2017, 09:22:05 PM
We've clinched at least a tie for the best lottery odds, and can't finish with worse than the #5 pick. The Lakers can't catch us, and the magic number is 1 for the Suns.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (18-59, #1 on 4/4)
Post by: colincb on April 06, 2017, 09:23:05 PM
Game over.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (18-59, #1 on 4/4)
Post by: positivitize on April 06, 2017, 09:29:19 PM
Aw yeahhhhh

Nets just need to lose 1 to either us, or the bulls(X2) and best odds are ours.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (18-59, #1 on 4/4)
Post by: hwangjini_1 on April 06, 2017, 09:31:28 PM
Aw yeahhhhh

Nets just need to lose 1 to either us, or the bulls(X2) and best odds are ours.
just the sort of news i needed tonight.

thanks to everyone who kept this thread updated.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (18-59, #1 on 4/4)
Post by: Ogaju on April 06, 2017, 09:31:55 PM
All up to the Celtics now. Magic number is 1.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (18-59, #1 on 4/4)
Post by: positivitize on April 06, 2017, 11:35:13 PM
wooo

hope we take care of business when we play them.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (18-59, #1 on 4/4)
Post by: CelticsElite on April 06, 2017, 11:52:40 PM
Suns still in the race but good progress


Lakers now have a 51.3% chance of losing TWO 1st Rd picks  :D. pure stupidity... a display of utter incompetence by winning two meaningless games.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (18-59, #1 on 4/4)
Post by: GreenShooter on April 07, 2017, 06:58:30 AM
Suns still in the race but good progress


Lakers now have a 51.3% chance of losing TWO 1st Rd picks  :D. pure stupidity... a display of utter incompetence by winning two meaningless games.
Why 2? I know about the protected pick. What else?
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (18-59, #1 on 4/4)
Post by: BitterJim on April 07, 2017, 07:02:25 AM
Suns still in the race but good progress


Lakers now have a 51.3% chance of losing TWO 1st Rd picks  :D. pure stupidity... a display of utter incompetence by winning two meaningless games.
Why 2? I know about the protected pick. What else?

If the pick conveys to Philly this year, then their 2019 pock will go to Orlando (from the Dwight Howard trade). If the pick doesn't convey to Philly, then the pick to Orlando becomes two 2nds
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (18-59, #1 on 4/4)
Post by: MBunge on April 07, 2017, 08:19:55 AM
Suns still in the race but good progress


Lakers now have a 51.3% chance of losing TWO 1st Rd picks  :D. pure stupidity... a display of utter incompetence by winning two meaningless games.
Why 2? I know about the protected pick. What else?

If the pick conveys to Philly this year, then their 2019 pock will go to Orlando (from the Dwight Howard trade). If the pick doesn't convey to Philly, then the pick to Orlando becomes two 2nds

I really don't want the Sixers to get two top 8 picks but it would be too sweet to see that happen to the Lakers.

Mike
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (18-59, #1 on 4/4)
Post by: slamtheking on April 07, 2017, 08:52:49 AM
Suns still in the race but good progress


Lakers now have a 51.3% chance of losing TWO 1st Rd picks  :D. pure stupidity... a display of utter incompetence by winning two meaningless games.
Why 2? I know about the protected pick. What else?

If the pick conveys to Philly this year, then their 2019 pock will go to Orlando (from the Dwight Howard trade). If the pick doesn't convey to Philly, then the pick to Orlando becomes two 2nds

I really don't want the Sixers to get two top 8 picks but it would be too sweet to see that happen to the Lakers.

Mike
truly the definition of a no-win situation for C's fans.  either the Lakers get another top pick this year or the Philly dumpster fire gets 2 top picks this year.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (19-60, #1 on 4/6)
Post by: GreenShooter on April 07, 2017, 11:33:16 AM
If Embiid ever stays healthy I see a early-mid 80's Sixers team (though that team was LOADED with HOF's and All-Stars) in a couple of years, especially if they get the LAL pick this year. Wouldn't mind rehashing that old rivalry, as long as we get a Larry Bird-like talent in the next draft or two :)
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (19-60, #1 on 4/6)
Post by: celticsclay on April 07, 2017, 11:55:16 AM
If Embiid ever stays healthy I see a early-mid 80's Sixers team (though that team was LOADED with HOF's and All-Stars) in a couple of years, especially if they get the LAL pick this year. Wouldn't mind rehashing that old rivalry, as long as we get a Larry Bird-like talent in the next draft or two :)


We are really lucky the 76ers traded Noel for 2 second round picks and that Okafor looks like a bench player. If they had made better selections or gotten more value for those guys we would be looking at a lot scarier situation.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (18-59, #1 on 4/4)
Post by: nickagneta on April 07, 2017, 05:00:33 PM
Suns still in the race but good progress


Lakers now have a 51.3% chance of losing TWO 1st Rd picks  :D. pure stupidity... a display of utter incompetence by winning two meaningless games.
Just further proof that players don't tank. They play to win and sometimes no matter what the GM and head coach try to do to lose, the players are going to win because that's what they get paid to do.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (19-60, #1 on 4/6)
Post by: fubar089 on April 07, 2017, 06:03:33 PM
If Embiid ever stays healthy
He won't.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (18-59, #1 on 4/4)
Post by: jpotter33 on April 07, 2017, 06:06:07 PM
Suns still in the race but good progress


Lakers now have a 51.3% chance of losing TWO 1st Rd picks  :D. pure stupidity... a display of utter incompetence by winning two meaningless games.
Just further proof that players don't tank. They play to win and sometimes no matter what the GM and head coach try to do to lose, the players are going to win because that's what they get paid to do.

That last game against the Spurs Walton didn't even have his starters in at the end. I'm pretty sure the entire bench group finished the game, which was an obvious tanking attempt that still didn't work due to them being up too much to begin with. It's hilarious, because that worthless win could ultimately be franchise altering for them.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (18-59, #1 on 4/4)
Post by: Big333223 on April 07, 2017, 06:09:10 PM
Suns still in the race but good progress


Lakers now have a 51.3% chance of losing TWO 1st Rd picks  :D. pure stupidity... a display of utter incompetence by winning two meaningless games.
Just further proof that players don't tank. They play to win and sometimes no matter what the GM and head coach try to do to lose, the players are going to win because that's what they get paid to do.

That last game against the Spurs Walton didn't even have his starters in at the end. I'm pretty sure the entire bench group finished the game, which was an obvious tanking attempt that still didn't work due to them being up too much to begin with. It's hilarious, because that worthless win could ultimately be franchise altering for them.
I'm imagining for myself a scenario where Popovich and the Spurs actually tanked that game just to Edited.  Profanity and masked profanity are against forum rules and may result in discipline. the Lakers. l ;D
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (18-59, #1 on 4/4)
Post by: jpotter33 on April 07, 2017, 06:10:09 PM
Suns still in the race but good progress


Lakers now have a 51.3% chance of losing TWO 1st Rd picks  :D. pure stupidity... a display of utter incompetence by winning two meaningless games.
Why 2? I know about the protected pick. What else?

If the pick conveys to Philly this year, then their 2019 pock will go to Orlando (from the Dwight Howard trade). If the pick doesn't convey to Philly, then the pick to Orlando becomes two 2nds

I really don't want the Sixers to get two top 8 picks but it would be too sweet to see that happen to the Lakers.

Mike
truly the definition of a no-win situation for C's fans.  either the Lakers get another top pick this year or the Philly dumpster fire gets 2 top picks this year.

The Sixers won't keep both picks either. If they got the 4th and 6th picks, I could see them doing something like trading both of them for Butler or taking a guard with one and trading the other for a vet wing or guard, perhaps like Bledsoe.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (18-59, #1 on 4/4)
Post by: SHAQATTACK on April 07, 2017, 08:04:37 PM
wooo

hope we take care of business when we play them.


I can't bare to watch ...   to much stress  :D
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (19-60, #1 on 4/6)
Post by: CelticSooner on April 07, 2017, 10:55:45 PM
Look at that Suns score. Tonight may be the clincher.  8)
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (19-60, #1 on 4/6)
Post by: Roy H. on April 07, 2017, 11:04:55 PM
Look at that Suns score. Tonight may be the clincher.  8)

Yeah, they've got a 23 point lead at halftime.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (19-60, #1 on 4/6)
Post by: Smokeeye123 on April 07, 2017, 11:22:41 PM
Westbrook a fresh 2-13 shooting tonight.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (19-60, #1 on 4/6)
Post by: Ogaju on April 07, 2017, 11:24:29 PM
Dont look yet but Suns are tanking it out...
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (19-60, #1 on 4/6)
Post by: CelticSooner on April 07, 2017, 11:35:52 PM
lol

There it goes
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (19-60, #1 on 4/6)
Post by: Ogaju on April 07, 2017, 11:38:09 PM
How did Hawks beat LeBron, or did he sit that one out.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (19-60, #1 on 4/6)
Post by: MattyIce on April 07, 2017, 11:41:13 PM
How did Hawks beat LeBron, or did he sit that one out.

actually millsap, dennis, howard and baze sat out
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (19-60, #1 on 4/6)
Post by: chambers on April 07, 2017, 11:54:10 PM
Suns up by 23 points with 9 mins remaining in the 4th quarter. Let's go Suns!
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (19-60, #1 on 4/6)
Post by: footey on April 08, 2017, 12:12:48 AM
112-90, 4 min.

It's official. We clinch the best odds !!!!
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (19-60, #1 on 4/6)
Post by: MJohnnyboy on April 08, 2017, 12:13:12 AM
Phoenix just did us a favor.

That's a first.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (19-60, #1 on 4/6)
Post by: fairweatherfan on April 08, 2017, 12:13:15 AM
Looks like we're about to clinch the #1 slot in the lottery. Guaranteed Top 4.

Which means we've just gotta sweat out the Ping-Pong balls, the prospects, and whether to trade it.  That'll hold us til Summer League :D
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (19-60, #1 on 4/6)
Post by: footey on April 08, 2017, 12:13:30 AM
Top 4 pick guaranteed!!
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (19-60, #1 on 4/6)
Post by: footey on April 08, 2017, 12:14:51 AM
Now let's get some lottery balls!!
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (19-60, #1 on 4/6)
Post by: Ogaju on April 08, 2017, 12:15:32 AM
Fultz to Beantown.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (19-60, #1 on 4/6)
Post by: footey on April 08, 2017, 12:16:43 AM
Watching the game. Suns doing everything they can to prevent Westbrook from getting triple double.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (19-60, #1 on 4/6)
Post by: Ogaju on April 08, 2017, 12:16:43 AM
Now let's get some lottery balls!!

We do not need lottery  balls, we need lottery Fultz.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (19-60, #1 on 4/6)
Post by: Rick Robeys Return on April 08, 2017, 12:18:05 AM
Go Suns, Go!! And there not letting Russ get his triple double!! Bonus.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (19-60, #1 on 4/6)
Post by: SHAQATTACK on April 08, 2017, 12:18:09 AM
Fultz to Beantown.

Fingers crossed

If not let it be Jackson
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (19-60, #1 on 4/6)
Post by: Ogaju on April 08, 2017, 12:20:13 AM
Lets take a moment to thank the Brooklyn Celtics for their performance this season. They really showed true dedication to the cause.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (19-60, #1 on 4/6)
Post by: positivitize on April 08, 2017, 12:22:42 AM
Aw yeh.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (19-60, #1 on 4/6)
Post by: max215 on April 08, 2017, 12:24:21 AM
Now we relax until May 16th.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (19-60, #1 on 4/6)
Post by: Denis998 on April 08, 2017, 12:24:39 AM
We did it guys! Clinched best lottery odds!
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/17/12/7f/17127fce278ec081578d1c3472fa3883.jpg)
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (19-60, #1 on 4/6)
Post by: CelticsElite on April 08, 2017, 12:34:34 AM
And the first pick goes to

(https://cbsboston.files.wordpress.com/2014/01/celtics-draft-lottery.jpg)



Lets hope it finally happens
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (19-60, #1 on 4/6)
Post by: CelticsElite on April 08, 2017, 12:35:45 AM
Fultz to Beantown.
yes! Its gotta happen
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (19-60, #1 on 4/6)
Post by: SHAQATTACK on April 08, 2017, 12:41:54 AM
Now bet ya .....Nets sit Lopez for rest of season ....now that he can''t stink up the Celtics draft pick.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (19-60, #1 on 4/6)
Post by: SHAQATTACK on April 08, 2017, 01:18:45 AM
Thank ya Nets  ;D
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (19-60, #1 on 4/6)
Post by: CelticSooner on April 08, 2017, 01:36:04 AM
Top 3 pick!

Laughing at the Lakers.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (19-60, #1 on 4/6)
Post by: SparzWizard on April 08, 2017, 01:47:00 AM
Now it's time to lock this 155-page thread up, mods?  ;D :angel:
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (19-60, #1 on 4/6)
Post by: Darío SpanishFan on April 08, 2017, 04:00:01 AM
Dream scenary:

Phoenix 1, Celtics 2, Dallas 3, Lakers & Sixers out of top-3.

Phoenix picks Ball, we get Fultz who, as second pick, takes less salary cap than Ball. It would be essential to our chances of signing a max player next summer.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (19-60, #1 on 4/6)
Post by: saltlover on April 08, 2017, 05:16:07 AM
Dream scenary:

Phoenix 1, Celtics 2, Dallas 3, Lakers & Sixers out of top-3.

Phoenix picks Ball, we get Fultz who, as second pick, takes less salary cap than Ball. It would be essential to our chances of signing a max player next summer.

Frankly, if you want a max free agent without too much hassle this summer, you should be rooting for us to pick 4th.  Picking 2nd is still going to require about the same amount of maneuvering as 1st at this point.  Maybe you wouldn't have to dump Demetrius Jackson, but he's not going to be a sticking point in any scenario.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (19-60, #1 on 4/6)
Post by: saltlover on April 08, 2017, 05:16:55 AM
Now we relax until May 16th.

Celtics fans don't relax when it comes to the draft lottery.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (19-60, #1 on 4/6)
Post by: Neurotic Guy on April 08, 2017, 07:12:04 AM
Now we relax until May 16th.

Celtics fans don't relax when it comes to the draft lottery.

Can't relax when Lakers and Suns are dueling for #2 odds.  Each ping-pong ball with Lakers numbers on it are dangerously and Magically lucky.    With two #2 picks in a row, LAL is incapable of losing in the lottery. They'll get #1 or 2  guaranteed.  Not a conspicacy theorist, just a believer in torturous Laker Luck.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (19-60, #1 on 4/6)
Post by: footey on April 08, 2017, 07:45:41 AM
Since Nets obviously didn't tank, Silver should just grant them (us following swap) the 1st pick, and let the lottery be for the 2nd and 3rd picks.

Seems fair, right?

I wish.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (19-60, #1 on 4/6)
Post by: Darío SpanishFan on April 08, 2017, 07:52:04 AM
Dream scenary:

Phoenix 1, Celtics 2, Dallas 3, Lakers & Sixers out of top-3.

Phoenix picks Ball, we get Fultz who, as second pick, takes less salary cap than Ball. It would be essential to our chances of signing a max player next summer.

Frankly, if you want a max free agent without too much hassle this summer, you should be rooting for us to pick 4th.  Picking 2nd is still going to require about the same amount of maneuvering as 1st at this point.  Maybe you wouldn't have to dump Demetrius Jackson, but he's not going to be a sticking point in any scenario.

Yes, buddy. I thought about it, but we can't have Fultz with that pick (even with nº 3). Anyway, just dreaming.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (19-60, #1 on 4/6)
Post by: Ogaju on April 08, 2017, 11:16:49 AM
Since Nets obviously didn't tank, Silver should just grant them (us following swap) the 1st pick, and let the lottery be for the 2nd and 3rd picks.

Seems fair, right?

I wish.

Somebody said the league could mandate that Nets Celtic swap cannot be exercised until after the draft which means that the Nets get to make the pick. LOL. Obviously that is not true, but imagine it was and the Nets pick a scrub worse than the 28  or wherever the Celtics pick.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (19-60, #1 on 4/6)
Post by: hwangjini_1 on April 08, 2017, 11:52:55 AM
i say the league will want to recreate a celtics dynasty and give the celtics the first 5 picks in the next 7 drafts.

there, now go say how "someone said" this.  ;D
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (19-60, #1 on 4/6)
Post by: Ogaju on April 08, 2017, 11:58:18 AM
i say the league will want to recreate a celtics dynasty and give the celtics the first 5 picks in the next 7 drafts.

there, now go say how "someone said" this.  ;D

LOL ..... Actually 'Somebody' is a poster here, and you can check out his/her post in the 'Brooklyn Nets Worst Record in the NBA Party' thread. See, I bet you did not know 'Somebody' was a real poster. LOL.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (19-60, #1 on 4/6)
Post by: BringToughnessBack on April 08, 2017, 12:55:30 PM
Nothing to watch in this thread anymore! When does the 2017-18 Nets watch thread begin? I can't wait.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (19-60, #1 on 4/6)
Post by: hwangjini_1 on April 08, 2017, 01:06:16 PM
i say the league will want to recreate a celtics dynasty and give the celtics the first 5 picks in the next 7 drafts.

there, now go say how "someone said" this.  ;D

LOL ..... Actually 'Somebody' is a poster here, and you can check out his/her post in the 'Brooklyn Nets Worst Record in the NBA Party' thread. See, I bet you did not know 'Somebody' was a real poster. LOL.
right you are and a tp. i had forgotten about "sombebody".
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (19-60, #1 on 4/6)
Post by: CelticSooner on April 08, 2017, 07:18:01 PM
Thanking the Suns once again. I'll tell you Butler is a good player. I wouldn't consider him clutch though.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (19-60, #1 on 4/6)
Post by: KGs Knee on April 08, 2017, 07:43:12 PM
Thanking the Suns once again. I'll tell you Butler is a good player. I wouldn't consider him clutch though.

That step-back, fade away three from the corner when the Bulls were down only 2 points with < 10 seconds left in the game was such a dumb shot.

Butler had Lopez guarding him after a switch and if he just turned the corner on him had an easy path to the basket for a layup and a potential And-1.  Instead, he settled for a very difficult shot that effectively ended the game.

But Brooklyn won that game because they simply played harder the last 5 minutes.  It really is amazing how hard that team continues to play.  I figured they would have shut down guys like Loepz and Lin after they locked up the worst record, since they no longer could play themselves out of the indignity of giving the Celtics the best lottery odds.  Credit to them, though, for playing out the stretch and showing a bit of pride.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (19-60, #1 on 4/6)
Post by: fairweatherfan on April 08, 2017, 08:33:25 PM
Of the many things I love about that 2013 trade, one of the most satisfying is that we built a 50 win team before Brooklyn did  :D
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (19-60, #1 on 4/6)
Post by: MJohnnyboy on April 08, 2017, 08:35:46 PM
Of the many things I love about that 2013 trade, one of the most satisfying is that we built a 50 win team before Brooklyn did  :D

The next step is winning a playoff series. Something Brooklyn actually did with that squad.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (19-60, #1 on 4/6)
Post by: TheSundanceKid on April 09, 2017, 09:46:38 AM
Brooklyn have played really well to close the season. It'll be interesting to see what happens with them this summer. I think they will finally trade Lopez, possibly at draft time. They have two picks in this draft, currently 22 and 26. If they could get one more, or a 2018 pick then they'd be in good shape building a young core going forward.
In the summer I expect them to look strongly at guys like KO. Although he's older than the core they'd be building, he should provide them with a relatively cheap 5 man to build around. Maybe he becomes a good trade asset in a few years.

Overall my expectation for them next year remains pick 5-8, which is what I thought they'd be this year. By the time they get to pick again they should be in much better shape going forward
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (19-60, #1 on 4/6)
Post by: kraidstar on April 09, 2017, 12:04:41 PM
Brooklyn have played really well to close the season. It'll be interesting to see what happens with them this summer. I think they will finally trade Lopez, possibly at draft time. They have two picks in this draft, currently 22 and 26. If they could get one more, or a 2018 pick then they'd be in good shape building a young core going forward.
In the summer I expect them to look strongly at guys like KO. Although he's older than the core they'd be building, he should provide them with a relatively cheap 5 man to build around. Maybe he becomes a good trade asset in a few years.

Overall my expectation for them next year remains pick 5-8, which is what I thought they'd be this year. By the time they get to pick again they should be in much better shape going forward

Every Vegas sports book had them dead last in the league going into this year,  and they were right. What made you think they would be better than that?

And I disagree with the 5-8 position next year, I think they'll be bottom-5 again.

A good run at the end when most other teams have mailed it in doesn't erase four months of historically bad basketball.

And they have few avenues to improve. Any free agent worth his salt knows they are a dead-end location.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (19-60, #1 on 4/6)
Post by: hpantazo on April 09, 2017, 12:40:18 PM
Brooklyn have played really well to close the season. It'll be interesting to see what happens with them this summer. I think they will finally trade Lopez, possibly at draft time. They have two picks in this draft, currently 22 and 26. If they could get one more, or a 2018 pick then they'd be in good shape building a young core going forward.
In the summer I expect them to look strongly at guys like KO. Although he's older than the core they'd be building, he should provide them with a relatively cheap 5 man to build around. Maybe he becomes a good trade asset in a few years.

Overall my expectation for them next year remains pick 5-8, which is what I thought they'd be this year. By the time they get to pick again they should be in much better shape going forward

Every Vegas sports book had them dead last in the league going into this year,  and they were right. What made you think they would be better than that?

And I disagree with the 5-8 position next year, I think they'll be bottom-5 again.

A good run at the end when most other teams have mailed it in doesn't erase four months of historically bad basketball.

And they have few avenues to improve. Any free agent worth his salt knows they are a dead-end location.

They will likely get a bit worse when they move Lopez finally. I also expect the other teams like the Lakers , Sixers and Suns to get better because they will actually have high draft picks to add. The Suns will also have Bender back healthy and more experienced, and the Sixers will get Simmons and Embiid back and add a lottery pick or two.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (19-60, #1 on 4/6)
Post by: KGs Knee on April 09, 2017, 01:50:41 PM
Brooklyn have played really well to close the season. It'll be interesting to see what happens with them this summer. I think they will finally trade Lopez, possibly at draft time. They have two picks in this draft, currently 22 and 26. If they could get one more, or a 2018 pick then they'd be in good shape building a young core going forward.
In the summer I expect them to look strongly at guys like KO. Although he's older than the core they'd be building, he should provide them with a relatively cheap 5 man to build around. Maybe he becomes a good trade asset in a few years.

Overall my expectation for them next year remains pick 5-8, which is what I thought they'd be this year. By the time they get to pick again they should be in much better shape going forward

Every Vegas sports book had them dead last in the league going into this year,  and they were right. What made you think they would be better than that?

And I disagree with the 5-8 position next year, I think they'll be bottom-5 again.

A good run at the end when most other teams have mailed it in doesn't erase four months of historically bad basketball.

And they have few avenues to improve. Any free agent worth his salt knows they are a dead-end location.

Well, Brooklyn was able to sign Jeremy Lin who is a solid player "worth his salt". Brooklyn was also able to sign Tyler Johnson to an offer sheet, who is also clearly "worth his salt". Brooklyn would have to overpay a bit again to lure similar players, and it may not behoove them to since they are getting close to being able to keep their own pick finally. But if they go that route, they definitely could acquire some help in the FA market.

Who knows if they will actually trade Lopez or not. They should if they can get good value for him, which would obviously make them a much worse team in the short term. They also could look to trade Lin at some point if someone makes them a good offer.

But until they actually jettison those players, there exists the chance Brooklyn could easily move up in the standings next year. Probable not very much, but enough to avoid conveying another top 4 pick. Had Jeremy Lin been healthy and not missed so much time this year, Brooklyn probably does finish outside the bottom 5. He's been that critical to whatever little success they have had this season.

Personally, I hope they trade Lopez. Doing that would seemingly almost assure them of being a bottom 3 team yet again.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (19-60, #1 on 4/6)
Post by: max215 on April 09, 2017, 11:50:08 PM
The Lakers are not good at tanking. Landing #1 while they lose their pick would be so sweet.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (19-60, #1 on 4/6)
Post by: kraidstar on April 10, 2017, 01:27:22 AM
Brooklyn have played really well to close the season. It'll be interesting to see what happens with them this summer. I think they will finally trade Lopez, possibly at draft time. They have two picks in this draft, currently 22 and 26. If they could get one more, or a 2018 pick then they'd be in good shape building a young core going forward.
In the summer I expect them to look strongly at guys like KO. Although he's older than the core they'd be building, he should provide them with a relatively cheap 5 man to build around. Maybe he becomes a good trade asset in a few years.

Overall my expectation for them next year remains pick 5-8, which is what I thought they'd be this year. By the time they get to pick again they should be in much better shape going forward

Every Vegas sports book had them dead last in the league going into this year,  and they were right. What made you think they would be better than that?

And I disagree with the 5-8 position next year, I think they'll be bottom-5 again.

A good run at the end when most other teams have mailed it in doesn't erase four months of historically bad basketball.

And they have few avenues to improve. Any free agent worth his salt knows they are a dead-end location.

Well, Brooklyn was able to sign Jeremy Lin who is a solid player "worth his salt". Brooklyn was also able to sign Tyler Johnson to an offer sheet, who is also clearly "worth his salt". Brooklyn would have to overpay a bit again to lure similar players, and it may not behoove them to since they are getting close to being able to keep their own pick finally. But if they go that route, they definitely could acquire some help in the FA market.

Who knows if they will actually trade Lopez or not. They should if they can get good value for him, which would obviously make them a much worse team in the short term. They also could look to trade Lin at some point if someone makes them a good offer.

But until they actually jettison those players, there exists the chance Brooklyn could easily move up in the standings next year. Probable not very much, but enough to avoid conveying another top 4 pick. Had Jeremy Lin been healthy and not missed so much time this year, Brooklyn probably does finish outside the bottom 5. He's been that critical to whatever little success they have had this season.

Personally, I hope they trade Lopez. Doing that would seemingly almost assure them of being a bottom 3 team yet again.

Seriously? You need to go and tell the rest of the NBA GMs ASAP that Lin is such a good player.

Because last I checked he's on his 6th team in 7 years.

And he was what, the 30th-ranked free agent last offseason?
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (19-60, #1 on 4/6)
Post by: TheSundanceKid on April 10, 2017, 08:36:21 AM
Brooklyn have played really well to close the season. It'll be interesting to see what happens with them this summer. I think they will finally trade Lopez, possibly at draft time. They have two picks in this draft, currently 22 and 26. If they could get one more, or a 2018 pick then they'd be in good shape building a young core going forward.
In the summer I expect them to look strongly at guys like KO. Although he's older than the core they'd be building, he should provide them with a relatively cheap 5 man to build around. Maybe he becomes a good trade asset in a few years.

Overall my expectation for them next year remains pick 5-8, which is what I thought they'd be this year. By the time they get to pick again they should be in much better shape going forward

Every Vegas sports book had them dead last in the league going into this year,  and they were right. What made you think they would be better than that?

And I disagree with the 5-8 position next year, I think they'll be bottom-5 again.

A good run at the end when most other teams have mailed it in doesn't erase four months of historically bad basketball.

And they have few avenues to improve. Any free agent worth his salt knows they are a dead-end location.

When Lin has been healthy they haven't performed as a bottom 5 team. The way I look at it every year there will be at least one team going into the season at the start of a rebuild (this year was an exception, probably because of the salary cap jump) so they will be challenging BRK for bottom. Then there's a few young teams who fail to live up to expectation (think Magic, NO in years past) and finally there are the teams like the Lakers who mail it in toward the end of the season.

If Brooklyn went into next season with the same roster I wouldn't be concerned. However I expect them to hit on some RFAs this year as teams won't have the luxury of a booming cap. I could easily see them landing someone like KO or Mirotic who would be a huge upgrade at the PF spot, then sign a guy like Porter (although Was should match) or Hardaway Jr.

If they do trade Lopez then some salary is coming back their way, I expect them to aim to get a mid to late first and then a veteran presence at the least. Whilst they get worse on paper I don't think it affects them too much. Trading him to Chicago for his brother and their 1st this year would be a fairly decent return, perhaps as part of a S&T for Mirotic.

It's an uphill battle for them but to ignore the progress they have made as a team this year is being ignorant
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (19-60, #1 on 4/6)
Post by: Vermont Green on April 10, 2017, 09:14:36 AM
Isn't it  time to rename this thread to:

Quote
The Official 2017-2018 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (0-0,  tied for #1 on 4/10)

And also, thank you Brooklyn Nets for the gift that keeps on giving.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (19-60, #1 on 4/6)
Post by: hodgy03038 on April 10, 2017, 09:29:40 AM
Isn't it  time to rename this thread to:

Quote
The Official 2017-2018 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (0-0,  tied for #1 on 4/10)

And also, thank you Brooklyn Nets for the gift that keeps on giving.

Tied with who? They are 4 games behind Phoenix with 2 to play.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (19-60, #1 on 4/6)
Post by: BitterJim on April 10, 2017, 09:58:51 AM
Isn't it  time to rename this thread to:

Quote
The Official 2017-2018 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (0-0,  tied for #1 on 4/10)

And also, thank you Brooklyn Nets for the gift that keeps on giving.

Tied with who? They are 4 games behind Phoenix with 2 to play.

Tied with everybody with 82 games to play.

Vermont Green is suggesting that, with the worst record locked down, we change this to the 2017-18 season thread (although I disagree, we should wait until after the lottery)
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (19-60, #1 on 4/6)
Post by: kraidstar on April 10, 2017, 11:35:14 AM
Brooklyn have played really well to close the season. It'll be interesting to see what happens with them this summer. I think they will finally trade Lopez, possibly at draft time. They have two picks in this draft, currently 22 and 26. If they could get one more, or a 2018 pick then they'd be in good shape building a young core going forward.
In the summer I expect them to look strongly at guys like KO. Although he's older than the core they'd be building, he should provide them with a relatively cheap 5 man to build around. Maybe he becomes a good trade asset in a few years.

Overall my expectation for them next year remains pick 5-8, which is what I thought they'd be this year. By the time they get to pick again they should be in much better shape going forward

Every Vegas sports book had them dead last in the league going into this year,  and they were right. What made you think they would be better than that?

And I disagree with the 5-8 position next year, I think they'll be bottom-5 again.

A good run at the end when most other teams have mailed it in doesn't erase four months of historically bad basketball.

And they have few avenues to improve. Any free agent worth his salt knows they are a dead-end location.

When Lin has been healthy they haven't performed as a bottom 5 team. The way I look at it every year there will be at least one team going into the season at the start of a rebuild (this year was an exception, probably because of the salary cap jump) so they will be challenging BRK for bottom. Then there's a few young teams who fail to live up to expectation (think Magic, NO in years past) and finally there are the teams like the Lakers who mail it in toward the end of the season.

If Brooklyn went into next season with the same roster I wouldn't be concerned. However I expect them to hit on some RFAs this year as teams won't have the luxury of a booming cap. I could easily see them landing someone like KO or Mirotic who would be a huge upgrade at the PF spot, then sign a guy like Porter (although Was should match) or Hardaway Jr.

If they do trade Lopez then some salary is coming back their way, I expect them to aim to get a mid to late first and then a veteran presence at the least. Whilst they get worse on paper I don't think it affects them too much. Trading him to Chicago for his brother and their 1st this year would be a fairly decent return, perhaps as part of a S&T for Mirotic.

It's an uphill battle for them but to ignore the progress they have made as a team this year is being ignorant



They are the worst team in the NBA by several games. At some point you just need to call a spade a spade. They've played .600 for one month at the end of the season when a lot of their opponents have quit or are openly tanking... woo. That is a low bar to set. Phoenix and the Laker have played well recently too.

I guess we have different definitions of "progress" and "ignorance"

And injuries are part of the game, a lot of the teams they are playing against have lost players. It all evens out.

BTW i'd love to see them get Mirotic. He's like KO minus the BBIQ. He shoots 41% and is one of the worst defenders in the league. He's also 26 already.

Go get him, Sean Marks!
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (19-60, #1 on 4/6)
Post by: Vermont Green on April 10, 2017, 01:39:38 PM
Isn't it  time to rename this thread to:

Quote
The Official 2017-2018 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (0-0,  tied for #1 on 4/10)

And also, thank you Brooklyn Nets for the gift that keeps on giving.

Tied with who? They are 4 games behind Phoenix with 2 to play.

Tied with everybody with 82 games to play.

Vermont Green is suggesting that, with the worst record locked down, we change this to the 2017-18 season thread (although I disagree, we should wait until after the lottery)

I don't want to Jinx the lottery but not sure the 2017-2018 Nets team is going to have much impact on the results of the lottery or vice verse. 
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (19-60, #1 on 4/6)
Post by: mef730 on April 10, 2017, 01:50:56 PM
Brooklyn have played really well to close the season. It'll be interesting to see what happens with them this summer. I think they will finally trade Lopez, possibly at draft time. They have two picks in this draft, currently 22 and 26. If they could get one more, or a 2018 pick then they'd be in good shape building a young core going forward.
In the summer I expect them to look strongly at guys like KO. Although he's older than the core they'd be building, he should provide them with a relatively cheap 5 man to build around. Maybe he becomes a good trade asset in a few years.

Overall my expectation for them next year remains pick 5-8, which is what I thought they'd be this year. By the time they get to pick again they should be in much better shape going forward

Every Vegas sports book had them dead last in the league going into this year,  and they were right. What made you think they would be better than that?

And I disagree with the 5-8 position next year, I think they'll be bottom-5 again.

A good run at the end when most other teams have mailed it in doesn't erase four months of historically bad basketball.

And they have few avenues to improve. Any free agent worth his salt knows they are a dead-end location.

They will likely get a bit worse when they move Lopez finally. I also expect the other teams like the Lakers , Sixers and Suns to get better because they will actually have high draft picks to add. The Suns will also have Bender back healthy and more experienced, and the Sixers will get Simmons and Embiid back and add a lottery pick or two.

I'm worried about the Suns. I'm very worried about the Kings. I have minor worries about the Knicks. I also have minor worries that the Bulls decide to tank 2017-18 and start the long-awaited rebuild.

And, for the purposes of the 17-18 draft, I'm rooting for the Lakers to keep their pick this year. If they keep their pick this year, it's unprotected next year to Philly. No reason to tank.

Mike
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (19-60, #1 on 4/6)
Post by: Ed Hollison on April 10, 2017, 02:07:46 PM
What's the likelihood that they trade Lopez before the start of the season? I would assume they'll try like hell, though I probably would have assumed the same thing a year ago. Without Lopez, they'll be significantly worse.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (19-60, #1 on 4/6)
Post by: mef730 on April 10, 2017, 02:18:32 PM
What's the likelihood that they trade Lopez before the start of the season? I would assume they'll try like hell, though I probably would have assumed the same thing a year ago. Without Lopez, they'll be significantly worse.

High, but it has to be pushing 100% before the trade deadline.

That opinion excludes, of course, the possibility that they have big signings this offseason.

Mike
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (19-60, #1 on 4/6)
Post by: Ogaju on April 10, 2017, 08:39:15 PM
How are the Nets doing tonight, oh wait.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (19-60, #1 on 4/6)
Post by: SHAQATTACK on April 10, 2017, 09:02:18 PM
How are the Nets doing tonight, oh wait.

Who,are they playing tonight ?
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (19-60, #1 on 4/6)
Post by: Phantom255x on April 10, 2017, 09:08:17 PM
How are the Nets doing tonight, oh wait.

Who,are they playing tonight ?

The Celtics Varsity Team is beating the Celtics Junior Varsity Team.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (19-60, #1 on 4/6)
Post by: Ogaju on April 10, 2017, 09:11:25 PM
How are the Nets doing tonight, oh wait.

Who,are they playing tonight ?

They are playing their beneficiary.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (19-60, #1 on 4/6)
Post by: SHAQATTACK on April 10, 2017, 09:21:29 PM
How are the Nets doing tonight, oh wait.

Who,are they playing tonight ?

They are playing their beneficiary.

Us .....Celtics Blog ......say Thank you Brooklin
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (19-60, #1 on 4/6)
Post by: Phantom255x on April 10, 2017, 09:22:58 PM
How are the Nets doing tonight, oh wait.

Who,are they playing tonight ?

They are playing their beneficiary.

Us .....Celtics Blog ......say Thank you Brooklin

I think we should all create our own team and play the Nets tbh.

Celticsblog vs. Brooklyn Nets  :laugh:
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (19-60, #1 on 4/6)
Post by: Ogaju on April 10, 2017, 09:25:50 PM
I have a question.

Why is there a Brooklyn Nets thread on a Celtic Blog? Do the Celtics have an ownership interest in the Nets?
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (19-60, #1 on 4/6)
Post by: Ogaju on April 10, 2017, 10:12:11 PM
the refs are killing Miami.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (19-60, #1 on 4/6)
Post by: slamtheking on April 10, 2017, 10:14:56 PM
Deron Williams is 1 assist from a ignominious triple double -- points, turnovers and assists.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (19-60, #1 on 4/6)
Post by: trickybilly on April 10, 2017, 10:17:22 PM
Tempting to start up the old Official 2018 Brooklyn Nets Watch!!   ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (19-60, #1 on 4/6)
Post by: fairweatherfan on April 10, 2017, 10:29:01 PM
Pretty funny that Brooklyn's going to wind up with almost exactly the same record as last season but they'll be comfortably in #1 instead of #3 and way ahead of the bottom 2.  Cellar teams weren't nearly as atrocious this year.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (19-60, #1 on 4/6)
Post by: SparzWizard on April 10, 2017, 10:31:00 PM
Possibly with the #1 pick in the 2017 draft AND possibly with the #1 seed in the East? Oh baby!
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (19-60, #1 on 4/6)
Post by: positivitize on April 10, 2017, 10:41:47 PM
Tempting to start up the old Official 2018 Brooklyn Nets Watch!!   ;D ;D ;D

Gotta do the Brooklyn Nets Off-Season thread first!
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (19-60, #1 on 4/6)
Post by: SHAQATTACK on April 10, 2017, 11:12:29 PM
Pretty funny that Brooklyn's going to wind up with almost exactly the same record as last season but they'll be comfortably in #1 instead of #3 and way ahead of the bottom 2.  Cellar teams weren't nearly as atrocious this year.

Mr Hinkie was absent
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (19-60, #1 on 4/6)
Post by: Big333223 on April 11, 2017, 10:33:23 AM
Pretty funny that Brooklyn's going to wind up with almost exactly the same record as last season but they'll be comfortably in #1 instead of #3 and way ahead of the bottom 2.  Cellar teams weren't nearly as atrocious this year.
Yeah, we've lucked out with these Brooklyn picks in a number of ways, not the least of which is that there were a ton of teams tanking 2 and 3 years ago and now all of those teams are in a different part of the rebuilding cycle so you don't have the pileup at the bottom that there was for the Wiggins and then Towns drafts. If there was the same kind of tanking going on in the league the Nets might be #5 or #6. But the only real tankers this seasons were LA and Phoenix and no one in the East was trying to lose games (even Philly started to pivot toward winning more this season).
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (19-60, #1 on 4/6)
Post by: mef730 on April 11, 2017, 02:48:13 PM
I have a question.

Why is there a Brooklyn Nets thread on a Celtic Blog? Do the Celtics have an ownership interest in the Nets?

We have a significant equity ownership in their future.

Mike
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (19-60, #1 on 4/6)
Post by: Androslav on April 11, 2017, 03:15:22 PM
I have a question.

Why is there a Brooklyn Nets thread on a Celtic Blog? Do the Celtics have an ownership interest in the Nets?
We are outsourceing tanking via Nets. We have to watch and evaluate how well they are at their job.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (19-60, #1 on 4/6)
Post by: fairweatherfan on April 11, 2017, 03:38:39 PM
I have a question.

Why is there a Brooklyn Nets thread on a Celtic Blog? Do the Celtics have an ownership interest in the Nets?
We are outsourceing tanking via Nets. We have to watch and evaluate how well they are at their job.

Imagine being the Lakers and having to tank by losing your own games a bunch of years in a row  :D
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (20-61, #1 on 4/10)
Post by: fairweatherfan on April 12, 2017, 10:39:12 AM
LOL, the Lakers won yet again and are locked in at #3 now. 

Assuming Brooklyn loses tonight with half their roster sitting, they'll finish between 4-7 games short of catching Phoenix + LA.  This is why a lot of people weren't too worried even as they started heating up late.  It was just too much to get out of the hole they dug over the first 75% of the year.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (20-61, #1 on 4/10)
Post by: mef730 on April 12, 2017, 10:45:41 AM
LOL, the Lakers won yet again and are locked in at #3 now. 

Assuming Brooklyn loses tonight with half their roster sitting, they'll finish between 4-7 games short of catching Phoenix + LA.  This is why a lot of people weren't too worried even as they started heating up late.  It was just too much to get out of the hole they dug over the first 75% of the year.

And I'm rooting for them to finish at #3. If they still owe their pick to PHL next year, it will be unprotected, so I won't have to worry about them tanking.

Mike
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (20-61, #1 on 4/10)
Post by: LGC88 on April 12, 2017, 10:50:31 AM
LOL, the Lakers won yet again and are locked in at #3 now. 

Assuming Brooklyn loses tonight with half their roster sitting, they'll finish between 4-7 games short of catching Phoenix + LA.  This is why a lot of people weren't too worried even as they started heating up late.  It was just too much to get out of the hole they dug over the first 75% of the year.

And I'm rooting for them to finish at #3. If they still owe their pick to PHL next year, it will be unprotected, so I won't have to worry about them tanking.

Mike

Yes, I really hope they get Ball, because they really deserve each other.
1 less team who will tank next year. A win-win for the Celtics.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (20-61, #1 on 4/10)
Post by: fairweatherfan on April 12, 2017, 10:50:47 AM
LOL, the Lakers won yet again and are locked in at #3 now. 

Assuming Brooklyn loses tonight with half their roster sitting, they'll finish between 4-7 games short of catching Phoenix + LA.  This is why a lot of people weren't too worried even as they started heating up late.  It was just too much to get out of the hole they dug over the first 75% of the year.

And I'm rooting for them to finish at #3. If they still owe their pick to PHL next year, it will be unprotected, so I won't have to worry about them tanking.

Mike

The flip side of that is that if they send the 1st to Philly this year, they'll also have to send their 2019 1st to Orlando to fulfill the Dwight Howard trade. Otherwise it turns into 2 2nds.  So there's tradeoffs either way. 

I honestly wouldn't mind them sucking for a 5th straight season next year, high pick or not.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (20-61, #1 on 4/10)
Post by: GreenShooter on April 12, 2017, 01:17:44 PM
We should be onto the 2017-2018 Nets Watch Thread..........
with that said, we all (well, almost all) expect the Nets to suck again. At least suck enough to land a top 10 pick. I am looking forward to following all the top prospects next year and there are a lot of them. I am particularly high on this list of top 7 but would love to land one of the top 4.


Michael Porter
6-10
215
SF
Missouri
HSSr.


DeAndre Ayton
7-0
250
C
Arizona
HSSr.

Luka Doncic
6-7
220
SG/SF
Slovenia
Intl.

Mohamed Bamba
7-0
215
C

Robert Williams
6-9
235
PF/C
Texas A&M

Kevin Knox
6-9
205
SF/PF
Undecided
HSSr.

Wendell Carter
6-10
260
PF/C
Duke
HSSr
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (20-61, #1 on 4/10)
Post by: slamtheking on April 12, 2017, 01:23:57 PM
LOL, the Lakers won yet again and are locked in at #3 now. 

Assuming Brooklyn loses tonight with half their roster sitting, they'll finish between 4-7 games short of catching Phoenix + LA.  This is why a lot of people weren't too worried even as they started heating up late.  It was just too much to get out of the hole they dug over the first 75% of the year.

And I'm rooting for them to finish at #3. If they still owe their pick to PHL next year, it will be unprotected, so I won't have to worry about them tanking.

Mike

The flip side of that is that if they send the 1st to Philly this year, they'll also have to send their 2019 1st to Orlando to fulfill the Dwight Howard trade. Otherwise it turns into 2 2nds.  So there's tradeoffs either way. 

I honestly wouldn't mind them sucking for a 5th straight season next year, high pick or not. in perpetuity

fixed that for you
Title: The Official 2017-2018 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread
Post by: colincb on April 13, 2017, 08:06:14 PM
Nets are chasing Euro guards for the future.

Quote
7 mins ago – via Twitter APOOCH
Anthony Puccio: It seems pretty evident that Milos Teodosic is a main target for the Brooklyn Nets. Sean Marks has visited more than once in the past year.
11 hours ago – via New York Post

Quote
Brooklyn’s interest in Teodosic is well-known. The 30-year-old point guard was voted the best player outside the NBA by league general managers earlier this year, leading Serbia to a silver medal in Rio and CSKA Moscow — Nets owner Mikhail Prokhorov’s old team — to a Euroleague title. Teodosic’s passing has brought comparisons to former Nets great Jason Kidd.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (20-61, #1 on 4/10)
Post by: fairweatherfan on April 13, 2017, 08:46:04 PM
LOL, the Lakers won yet again and are locked in at #3 now. 

Assuming Brooklyn loses tonight with half their roster sitting, they'll finish between 4-7 games short of catching Phoenix + LA.  This is why a lot of people weren't too worried even as they started heating up late.  It was just too much to get out of the hole they dug over the first 75% of the year.

And I'm rooting for them to finish at #3. If they still owe their pick to PHL next year, it will be unprotected, so I won't have to worry about them tanking.

Mike

The flip side of that is that if they send the 1st to Philly this year, they'll also have to send their 2019 1st to Orlando to fulfill the Dwight Howard trade. Otherwise it turns into 2 2nds.  So there's tradeoffs either way. 

I honestly wouldn't mind them sucking for a 5th straight season next year, high pick or not. in perpetuity

fixed that for you

Eh, if they suck in perpetuity the rivalry fades to nothing. Look at the Sixers, most fans under 35 don't even consider them rivals unless they're students of history.

I prefer the arrangement we had in the 60s where the Lakers are really good but we just keep crushing their hopes over and over and over again.
Title: Re: The Official 2017-2018 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread
Post by: mef730 on April 13, 2017, 09:10:51 PM
Nets are chasing Euro guards for the future.

Quote
7 mins ago – via Twitter APOOCH
Anthony Puccio: It seems pretty evident that Milos Teodosic is a main target for the Brooklyn Nets. Sean Marks has visited more than once in the past year.
11 hours ago – via New York Post

Quote
Brooklyn’s interest in Teodosic is well-known. The 30-year-old point guard was voted the best player outside the NBA by league general managers earlier this year, leading Serbia to a silver medal in Rio and CSKA Moscow — Nets owner Mikhail Prokhorov’s old team — to a Euroleague title. Teodosic’s passing has brought comparisons to former Nets great Jason Kidd.

He looks like the cook in "Two Broke Girls."

Mike
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (20-61, #1 on 4/10)
Post by: Darío SpanishFan on April 13, 2017, 10:11:18 PM
As a Euro fan, and I'm sure our Greek buddy can confirm that, it's not good news. You can get very good, savvy players in Europe with no huge salary and helping you win games. Players such as Teodosic, Llull (I know Houston has his rights, but maybe a minor trade could arrange it) and some more can make the Nets competitive. Hopefully they concentrate their efforts on Crabbe, Tyler Johnson and such.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (20-61, #1 on 4/10)
Post by: ashanm10 on April 13, 2017, 11:24:00 PM
It's funny coz Brooklyn couldn't have expected a worse pick swap xD couldn't have been any lower XD
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (20-61, #1 on 4/10)
Post by: Ogaju on April 14, 2017, 01:45:44 AM
Do you think the Nets fans have a thread for the Celtics 2015-2017 season because they had our pick swap? LOL !!!!!
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (20-61, #1 on 4/10)
Post by: Somebody on April 14, 2017, 01:47:24 AM
We should be onto the 2017-2018 Nets Watch Thread..........
with that said, we all (well, almost all) expect the Nets to suck again. At least suck enough to land a top 10 pick. I am looking forward to following all the top prospects next year and there are a lot of them. I am particularly high on this list of top 7 but would love to land one of the top 4.


Michael Porter
6-10
215
SF
Missouri
HSSr.


DeAndre Ayton
7-0
250
C
Arizona
HSSr.

Luka Doncic
6-7
220
SG/SF
Slovenia
Intl.

Mohamed Bamba
7-0
215
C

Robert Williams
6-9
235
PF/C
Texas A&M

Kevin Knox
6-9
205
SF/PF
Undecided
HSSr.

Wendell Carter
6-10
260
PF/C
Duke
HSSr
Favourite guy atm is Bamba
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (20-61, #1 on 4/10)
Post by: Somebody on April 14, 2017, 03:44:11 AM
Do you think the Nets fans have a thread for the Celtics 2015-2017 season because they had our pick swap? LOL !!!!!
They definitely have one because they would desire to minimize the damage done, but apparently this is the worst case scenario for them 😂
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (20-61, #1 on 4/10)
Post by: SHAQATTACK on April 14, 2017, 07:18:26 AM
If they trade Lopez , that is the final tank for next season .   If I was Lopez , I would demand a trade.  Get me to a playoff team .  Nets are least 3-5 years from having much . No use in Lopez hanging around there .

Heck , Lopez would be better off on Knicks or Lakers .
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (20-62, #1)
Post by: Redz on April 14, 2017, 07:33:58 AM
Until next next November my friend.  Ill come back for you.  I promise.

http://www.tankathon.com
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (20-62, #1)
Post by: mef730 on May 08, 2017, 03:35:41 PM
My frustration with the playoffs (even though I'm not actually surprised that it's 2-2) is offset by the fact that the draft lottery is only a whopping eight days away.

Mike
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (20-62, #1)
Post by: trickybilly on May 29, 2017, 02:37:43 AM
Really need to start up the old Nets watch again.

Some FAs might be tempted to go there and start something. Paul Milsap, Kelly Olynyk, Otto Porter
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (20-62, #1)
Post by: mef730 on June 05, 2017, 02:16:31 PM
Really need to start up the old Nets watch again.

Some FAs might be tempted to go there and start something. Paul Milsap, Kelly Olynyk, Otto Porter

Not worried about Milsap, who will have plenty of options, or Porter, who will get matched by Washington. KO? Not sure. I figure he'll have some options, too, and I wonder what kind of premium BKN would have to offer him to join a team where he'll be the BSD after Lopez is gone, i.e., no chance of winning. If his market value is $15m, will BKN have to offer him 20? 22?

Mike
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (20-62, #1)
Post by: Jvalin on June 05, 2017, 02:30:49 PM
Really need to start up the old Nets watch again.

Some FAs might be tempted to go there and start something. Paul Milsap, Kelly Olynyk, Otto Porter

Not worried about Milsap, who will have plenty of options, or Porter, who will get matched by Washington. KO? Not sure. I figure he'll have some options, too, and I wonder what kind of premium BKN would have to offer him to join a team where he'll be the BSD after Lopez is gone, i.e., no chance of winning. If his market value is $15m, will BKN have to offer him 20? 22?

Mike
I'm kind of worried about KCP. The Pistons might not be willing to match a max offer for him.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (20-62, #1)
Post by: mef730 on June 05, 2017, 02:33:29 PM
Really need to start up the old Nets watch again.

Some FAs might be tempted to go there and start something. Paul Milsap, Kelly Olynyk, Otto Porter

Not worried about Milsap, who will have plenty of options, or Porter, who will get matched by Washington. KO? Not sure. I figure he'll have some options, too, and I wonder what kind of premium BKN would have to offer him to join a team where he'll be the BSD after Lopez is gone, i.e., no chance of winning. If his market value is $15m, will BKN have to offer him 20? 22?

Mike
I'm kind of worried about KCP. The Pistons might not be willing to match a max offer for him.

I'm gonna start a free agent thread. TP to tricky for bringing it back.

Mike
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (20-62, #1)
Post by: mef730 on June 05, 2017, 02:40:27 PM
Here you go:

http://forums.celticsblog.com/index.php?topic=91366.new#new

Mike
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (20-62, #1)
Post by: libermaniac on June 05, 2017, 02:42:30 PM
Really need to start up the old Nets watch again.

Some FAs might be tempted to go there and start something. Paul Milsap, Kelly Olynyk, Otto Porter

Not worried about Milsap, who will have plenty of options, or Porter, who will get matched by Washington. KO? Not sure. I figure he'll have some options, too, and I wonder what kind of premium BKN would have to offer him to join a team where he'll be the BSD after Lopez is gone, i.e., no chance of winning. If his market value is $15m, will BKN have to offer him 20? 22?

Mike
I'm kind of worried about KCP. The Pistons might not be willing to match a max offer for him.
KO or KCP will not help the Nets win many more games.  Nothing to worry in regards to these two.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (20-62, #1)
Post by: Quetzalcoatl on June 05, 2017, 03:07:41 PM
I predict that instead of going to the Nets, Portland will do some cap clearing trades and then sign Olynyk to a $100 million contract the next day.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (20-62, #1)
Post by: Granath on June 05, 2017, 03:38:52 PM
Really need to start up the old Nets watch again.

Some FAs might be tempted to go there and start something. Paul Milsap, Kelly Olynyk, Otto Porter

Not worried about Milsap, who will have plenty of options, or Porter, who will get matched by Washington. KO? Not sure. I figure he'll have some options, too, and I wonder what kind of premium BKN would have to offer him to join a team where he'll be the BSD after Lopez is gone, i.e., no chance of winning. If his market value is $15m, will BKN have to offer him 20? 22?

Mike
I'm kind of worried about KCP. The Pistons might not be willing to match a max offer for him.
KO or KCP will not help the Nets win many more games.  Nothing to worry in regards to these two.

TP to you, sir.

Why are people so worried about role players suddenly making the Nets a juggernaut? Both guys have skills but neither appears to move the dial much. KO is really a bench player and KCP at this stage isn't much more than a good defensive player with a mediocre offensive game. Neither move the dial all that much.

Furthermore, if the Nets are going to clutter up their roster with guys making $25m a year who would be bench players for the Celtics, all they're doing is cutting their own throats long term. You can't pay role players that kind of money and field a good team. The Nets know this. Maybe they try to make a run at both because Lopez, KO and KCP would make a team at least somewhat competitive (if still a loser). But then they lose Lopez to FA next year which is one of their few remaining assets. Long term it's counterproductive and the short term gain isn't worth it.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (20-62, #1)
Post by: Darío SpanishFan on June 05, 2017, 03:53:30 PM
Really need to start up the old Nets watch again.

Some FAs might be tempted to go there and start something. Paul Milsap, Kelly Olynyk, Otto Porter

How do you think a 32 year-old all-star or two young, promising players coming from winning teams will go to the worst franchise in the league?

Money is an issue, but not all. They'll get well paid in many other places.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (20-62, #1)
Post by: BitterJim on June 05, 2017, 04:03:00 PM
Really need to start up the old Nets watch again.

Some FAs might be tempted to go there and start something. Paul Milsap, Kelly Olynyk, Otto Porter

Not worried about Milsap, who will have plenty of options, or Porter, who will get matched by Washington. KO? Not sure. I figure he'll have some options, too, and I wonder what kind of premium BKN would have to offer him to join a team where he'll be the BSD after Lopez is gone, i.e., no chance of winning. If his market value is $15m, will BKN have to offer him 20? 22?

Mike
I'm kind of worried about KCP. The Pistons might not be willing to match a max offer for him.
KO or KCP will not help the Nets win many more games.  Nothing to worry in regards to these two.

TP to you, sir.

Why are people so worried about role players suddenly making the Nets a juggernaut? Both guys have skills but neither appears to move the dial much. KO is really a bench player and KCP at this stage isn't much more than a good defensive player with a mediocre offensive game. Neither move the dial all that much.

Furthermore, if the Nets are going to clutter up their roster with guys making $25m a year who would be bench players for the Celtics, all they're doing is cutting their own throats long term. You can't pay role players that kind of money and field a good team. The Nets know this. Maybe they try to make a run at both because Lopez, KO and KCP would make a team at least somewhat competitive (if still a loser). But then they lose Lopez to FA next year which is one of their few remaining assets. Long term it's counterproductive and the short term gain isn't worth it.

They're not.  Some people are worried about a couple of good role players pulling them from the worst team in the NBA to just bottom 5-10 or so, though.  This is a team that already has a star in Brook Lopez and a secondary guy in Jeremy Lin.  Adding a 6th man that fits their system perfectly (Kelly) or a starting shooting guard with a similarly good fit (KCP) could be enough to put them over teams like the Suns, Lakers, and Kings, which would bring down our chances at the #1 (or just a top 3) pick significantly.

Nobody is saying that adding a couple of decent players is gonna make them contenders overnight, but you're crazy if you don't think adding those guys would make them better.  This was a team that was 26th in the league in 3 point percentage, and who's 2nd leading scorer for the season was Sean Kilpatrick.  Adding KCP and Kelly would be bad news for the 2018 Nets pick (but that said, I think it's very unlikely they manage to sign either guy, and signing both isn't even worth considering, both because there's no way they could convince both and because there's no way Marks would tie up $30-$40 million for the next 4 years for those two)
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (20-62, #1)
Post by: mef730 on June 26, 2017, 02:28:58 PM
I fall into the minority of those who think that the Nets may actually benefit this year from the Lopez trade, but we do seem to be small.

As far as I can tell, SAC, despite what is viewed as a good draft, remains the biggest competition for BKN's last place spot. I'm a bit nervous, though, that if Indy goes full rebuild, they could challenge. I also see Orlando as a challenger.

Mike
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (20-62, #1)
Post by: Ilikesports17 on June 26, 2017, 02:42:35 PM
I fall into the minority of those who think that the Nets may actually benefit this year from the Lopez trade, but we do seem to be small.

As far as I can tell, SAC, despite what is viewed as a good draft, remains the biggest competition for BKN's last place spot. I'm a bit nervous, though, that if Indy goes full rebuild, they could challenge. I also see Orlando as a challenger.

Mike
The larger threat to the Nets is not them improving (barring FA additions they will be worse), but other teams sucking more.

Sacremento, Orlando, Chicago and Indiana could all really suck next year. Not too mention the glass house that is the 76ers and the still way to young to win jack Edited.  Profanity and masked profanity are against forum rules and may result in discipline. Suns.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (20-62, #1)
Post by: gouki88 on June 26, 2017, 02:44:44 PM
I fall into the minority of those who think that the Nets may actually benefit this year from the Lopez trade, but we do seem to be small.

As far as I can tell, SAC, despite what is viewed as a good draft, remains the biggest competition for BKN's last place spot. I'm a bit nervous, though, that if Indy goes full rebuild, they could challenge. I also see Orlando as a challenger.

Mike
The larger threat to the Nets is not them improving (barring FA additions they will be worse), but other teams sucking more.

Sacremento, Orlando, Chicago and Indiana could all really suck next year. Not too mention the glass house that is the 76ers and the still way to young to win jack **** Suns.
I still feel as though all the teams you listed have way more talent than the Nets, so I'm quite confident they'll be right at that 18-25 wins type of bad again.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (20-62, #1)
Post by: mef730 on June 26, 2017, 10:42:45 PM
If JJ Reddick went to BKN, how much of a threat would that be? I don't know him well.

Mike

https://sports.yahoo.com/report-nets-sixers-try-land-221431904.html
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (20-62, #1)
Post by: trickybilly on June 29, 2017, 10:48:18 PM
CAN WE START THE NEW THREAD ALREADY...

Nets pick up options on Kilpatrick and Joe Harris (1.5/1 year each), per Wojonator.

Two quality guys.

D-League quality.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (20-62, #1)
Post by: rondofan1255 on June 29, 2017, 10:51:05 PM
CAN WE START THE NEW THREAD ALREADY...

Nets pick up options on Kilpatrick and Joe Harris (1.5/1 year each), per Wojonator.

Two quality guys.

D-League quality.

http://forums.celticsblog.com/index.php?topic=90541.45

Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (20-62, #1)
Post by: jpurthe1 on June 29, 2017, 10:58:29 PM
This Brooklyn Trade just keeps on giving. 2 - #3 picks (Brown, Tatum) & potentially 2 - Top 5 picks next year or 1 and 1 for the next 2 seasons. Just pure joy and love I have for Brooklyn!!!
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (20-62, #1)
Post by: gouki88 on June 29, 2017, 11:51:07 PM
CAN WE START THE NEW THREAD ALREADY...

Nets pick up options on Kilpatrick and Joe Harris (1.5/1 year each), per Wojonator.

Two quality guys.

D-League quality.
Kilpatrick is a pretty solid 13/3/2 guy on decent efficiency. Certainly belongs in the NBA.

Joe Harris however, not quite.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (20-62, #1)
Post by: Ilikesports17 on June 30, 2017, 12:23:45 AM
CAN WE START THE NEW THREAD ALREADY...

Nets pick up options on Kilpatrick and Joe Harris (1.5/1 year each), per Wojonator.

Two quality guys.

D-League quality.
Kilpatrick is a pretty solid 13/3/2 guy on decent efficiency. Certainly belongs in the NBA.

Joe Harris however, not quite.
Sean kilpatrick is a 13/3/2 guy on the Nets alone. Don't think he'd match that production on any other team in the league.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (20-62, #1)
Post by: gouki88 on June 30, 2017, 12:33:39 AM
CAN WE START THE NEW THREAD ALREADY...

Nets pick up options on Kilpatrick and Joe Harris (1.5/1 year each), per Wojonator.

Two quality guys.

D-League quality.
Kilpatrick is a pretty solid 13/3/2 guy on decent efficiency. Certainly belongs in the NBA.

Joe Harris however, not quite.
Sean kilpatrick is a 13/3/2 guy on the Nets alone. Don't think he'd match that production on any other team in the league.
Yeah, I'm not trying to say that those numbers are representative of how good he actually is. But he and Joe Harris are leagues (almost literally) apart.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (20-62, #1)
Post by: trickybilly on June 30, 2017, 03:19:09 AM
CAN WE START THE NEW THREAD ALREADY...

Nets pick up options on Kilpatrick and Joe Harris (1.5/1 year each), per Wojonator.

Two quality guys.

D-League quality.

Ah, well it needs to be pinned. And this one de-pinned..

http://forums.celticsblog.com/index.php?topic=90541.45
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (20-62, #1)
Post by: rondofan1255 on June 30, 2017, 03:29:05 AM
CAN WE START THE NEW THREAD ALREADY...

Nets pick up options on Kilpatrick and Joe Harris (1.5/1 year each), per Wojonator.

Two quality guys.

D-League quality.

Ah, well it needs to be pinned. And this one de-pinned..

http://forums.celticsblog.com/index.php?topic=90541.45

I agree.
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (20-62, #1)
Post by: mef730 on July 11, 2017, 01:48:22 PM
I've sent a note to the mods to ask them to move it. Hopefully it goes soon!

Mike
Title: Re: The Official 2016-2017 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (20-62, #1)
Post by: rondofan1255 on July 12, 2017, 12:44:11 AM
I've sent a note to the mods to ask them to move it. Hopefully it goes soon!

Mike

You're the best! :D