2017 second round draft pick from Boston
If Boston exercises its right to swap its 2017 1st round pick for Brooklyn's 2017 1st round pick, then Boston will convey its 2017 2nd round pick to Brooklyn protected for selections 31-45 (if this pick falls within its protected range and is therefore not conveyed, then Boston's obligation to Brooklyn will be extinguished) [Boston-Brooklyn, 7/12/2013]; this potential pick conveyance is the same as the one described in "2017 first round draft pick from Brooklyn" on Boston Incoming
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How resource poor are the Nets? Virtually every pick in the draft is for sale and I'm still not sure they can get into the first round
My only concern is they might be looking to create cap space to make a splash in FA.
My only concern is they might be looking to create cap space to make a splash in FA.
Personally I wouldn’t worry. Which difference-making superstar is going to that team? They have nothing basketball-related to offer any free agent. The best they can do would be to pay the max to someone who isn’t worth the max. Personally I don’t think Prokorov is interested in doing that type of spending any longer, but even if he does, Brooklyn still ends up giving us a high lottery pick in a year.
The Charlotte Hornets have a problem. They need cap space to sign all their free agents ...or at least be in the mix. So, points out Adrian Wojnarowski, they are willing to do a salary dump, parting with the 22nd pick in the process.
And both Tim Bontemps and Rick Bonnell of the Charlotte Observer thinks one way to do it might involve trading for Jarrett Jack's barely protected contract. Jack of course is recovering from multiple knee injuries and turns 33 in October.
The Nets would have to take on other contracts in the process.
Sources: Charlotte's offering No. 22 - if team will take contract of Spencer Hawes or Jeremy Lamb. Hornets need space to re-sign free agents
— Adrian Wojnarowski (@WojVerticalNBA) June 23, 2016
Why not the Nets, asks Bontemps.
If Charlotte is willing to move the 22nd pick for someone to take on Spencer Hawes or Jeremy Lamb, the Nets have Jarrett Jack. Logical move.
— Tim Bontemps (@TimBontemps) June 23, 2016
Makes sense, adds Bonnell.
My buddy @TimBontemps points out that Jarrett Jack's contract is guaranteed for only $500K. Nets possible taker for 22nd pick?
— Rick Bonnell (@rick_bonnell) June 23, 2016
Indeed, Jack's contract is now $6.3 million, but only $500,000 of it is guaranteed (and if you want, you can stretch that!) No word yet from the Nets camp, at least according to the Twitterverse. Of course the night is young.
So Thad Young has netted the #20 pick. A positive move for Brooklyn but certainly not going to make them better short term so it looks like a win for us!Perhaps, but do you think they can get someone as good as young and for less money?
My only concern is they might be looking to create cap space to make a splash in FA. They aren't an attractive proposition but still...
Over/under on 16 Brooklyn wins next season?
Harry Giles to the Celtics!!! ;D ;D ;D 8)Honestly, his 2 torn ACLs scare me. He's already lost some athleticism, I fear he will become another Derrick Rose regardless of talent
Harry Giles to the Celtics!!! ;D ;D ;D 8)
Brooklyn, Phoenix, Philly and possibly Orlando look like the pick of the litter box right now. Unless we get a top pick with a "franchise" player, this pick is getting traded, even if we have to "get hosed" a little bit. No more young guys needed and we still have their '18 pick. Yabusele and Zizic could be coming over to occupy some roster space by then, if they're also not traded.
my bet is under, i mean they will most likely sign 3-4 Evan Turner level players who will pad their stats along with Lopez, but that can't and wont get them in many W columnsOver/under on 16 Brooklyn wins next season?
I'm guessing over, but only because I think they'll sign a few middling free agents, just enough to push them past the dregs of the league.
Who are the dregs this year, anyway? I suppose Philly has one more year at the bottom. NO needs Davis to stay healthy.
Mike
I just want to get a post in this thread early. Last year's thread probably wins the MVP of threads.
As of right now, I don't see how the Nets aren't the worst team in the year next year.
PHX (new draft choices, players returning from injury), ORL (decent starting five, will probably commit to Fournier with Oladipo gone), Philly/Minny (fantastic young cores).
Teams like Denver, Sac, LAL could surprise in the 'suck' department, but all have superior rosters to the current Nets team.
I expect this to be a fun year...and let's hope Brown really shines!
I love this thread. It always gives me something to come back to when I get cranky about the team. I believe it was Julie Andrews who said it best:
When the draft bites
When free agency stings
When I'm feeling sad
I simply remember the Brooklyn draft picks
And then I don't feel so bad
looks like the Nets are just bent on not helping us out with their picks. Why are they trying so hard to be competitive?
Confirmed that #Nets have agreement with Trevor Booker as @Tjonessltrib reported earlier.
— Mike Mazzeo (@MazzESPN) July 2, 2016
According to various sources, Booker will earn $18.5 million over two years, about the same contract they offered Jared Dudley who reportedly turned them down Friday.
Booker, at 6'8" and 228 pounds, is a high energy rebounder and defender at the 4, where the Nets have limited roster resources since trading Thaddeus Young on Draft Night. Booker averaged 5.9 points and 5.7 rebounds this past season in 21 minutes per game. He shot 29.3 percent from deep. Over the past three years, the 28-year-old out of Clemson has missed only 14 games.
In other news, with Wade going to the Bulls, Brooklyn pretty much loses their bid on Tyler Johnson.
In other news, with Wade going to the Bulls, Brooklyn pretty much loses their bid on Tyler Johnson.
In other news, with Wade going to the Bulls, Brooklyn pretty much loses their bid on Tyler Johnson.
I was thinking that. The Nets lost out doubly on Wade going to Chicago. No salary dump and no Tyler Johnson.
I know people are concerned Miami will tank for a year, and they may, but they're still way ahead of the Nets.
Said Wojnarowski: "By all indications they want to keep him. They developed Allen Crabbe. He's become a very good bench player. Will he be a starter? That remains to be seen... I would be very surprised if one way or another if Allen Crabbe is not back with the Trail Blazers and not playing for them next season."
I'm gonna get my wife a pair of these:
http://store.nba.com/Brooklyn_Nets_Gear/Brooklyn_Nets_Womens_St._Paddys_Day_Super_Tube_Socks_-_Kelly_Green
The Wade news is excellent for the pick. You'd have to imagine the Heat retain Johnson now.
What's funny though, is that with these marginal improvements from the Lakers, they're pretty much guaranteeing that they will lose their 2017 draft pick, instead of their 2018 one. If I was a betting man, their 2017 draft pick is going to be quite better than their 2018 one.
Is there any other team remotely as bad as Brooklyn. I'm trying to figure out what the competition is. Philly got better, Lakers got better, Suns got better and healthy, twolves are a year older, NO is healthy, nuggets got better. The only teams that seemingly got worse are Miami and Dallas
Is there any other team remotely as bad as Brooklyn. I'm trying to figure out what the competition is. Philly got better, Lakers got better, Suns got better and healthy, twolves are a year older, NO is healthy, nuggets got better. The only teams that seemingly got worse are Miami and Dallas
Is there any other team remotely as bad as Brooklyn. I'm trying to figure out what the competition is. Philly got better, Lakers got better, Suns got better and healthy, twolves are a year older, NO is healthy, nuggets got better. The only teams that seemingly got worse are Miami and DallasI still think Philly and the Lakers are going to be really bad. Even though they got better, I still do not think they are better than the Nets.
So far philly roster looks like this:Is there any other team remotely as bad as Brooklyn. I'm trying to figure out what the competition is. Philly got better, Lakers got better, Suns got better and healthy, twolves are a year older, NO is healthy, nuggets got better. The only teams that seemingly got worse are Miami and Dallas
Dallas and Miami are too good to be worse than Brooklyn.
The Suns and 76ers could easily be worse than Brooklyn though. Especially the suns. I think this is the year that the 76ers actually try and start to build something.
agreed on the initial overview on tanking -- not even Philly seems to be at it this year.Is there any other team remotely as bad as Brooklyn. I'm trying to figure out what the competition is. Philly got better, Lakers got better, Suns got better and healthy, twolves are a year older, NO is healthy, nuggets got better. The only teams that seemingly got worse are Miami and DallasI still think Philly and the Lakers are going to be really bad. Even though they got better, I still do not think they are better than the Nets.
Miami might have gotten worse, but I don't see Bogut and Barnes being a downgrade from an injured Parsons and Zaza for the Mavs.
I think there will be a team that ends up in the bottom five due to injury that we don't expect.
It's crazy that not one team seems to be tanking this year.
Nets signed Allen Crabbe from Portland to a 4 year, $75 million offer sheet. I know nothing about Allen Crabbe and I'm curious to hear what people think about this.
Nets signed Allen Crabbe from Portland to a 4 year, $75 million offer sheet. I know nothing about Allen Crabbe and I'm curious to hear what people think about this.Good shooter and average to below average at everything else.
Any chance both Tyler Johnson and Allen Crabbe end up on the Nets? That would be great to see $145 million wrapped up between those two guys.
Any word if the blazers will match? I know they love the kid, and this isn't crazy for his production. He would atleast help the nets to a few wins.
Any chance both Tyler Johnson and Allen Crabbe end up on the Nets? That would be great to see $145 million wrapped up between those two guys.
Any chance both Tyler Johnson and Allen Crabbe end up on the Nets? That would be great to see $145 million wrapped up between those two guys.
I hope so. Lol guaranteed lottery picks next 2 years if they continue tying up money like this.
Any chance both Tyler Johnson and Allen Crabbe end up on the Nets? That would be great to see $145 million wrapped up between those two guys.
I hope so. Lol guaranteed lottery picks next 2 years if they continue tying up money like this.
I'd much rather they don't get them, because their alternatives will be to either not spend money at all this year, or spend it on even worse players.
Nets signed Allen Crabbe from Portland to a 4 year, $75 million offer sheet. I know nothing about Allen Crabbe and I'm curious to hear what people think about this.
he is a good player...weird how no one else wanted picked him up..
Any chance both Tyler Johnson and Allen Crabbe end up on the Nets? That would be great to see $145 million wrapped up between those two guys.
I hope so. Lol guaranteed lottery picks next 2 years if they continue tying up money like this.
I'd much rather they don't get them, because their alternatives will be to either not spend money at all this year, or spend it on even worse players.
Sully may be next on the list.
Have the Heat matched Tyler Johnson's offer yet?
The Heat matched as well, outstanding news.
What a wonderful day ;D
Does this mean we are not trading the 17 swap, or the 2018 Bkn pick?
Does this mean we are not trading the 17 swap, or the 2018 Bkn pick?
The Heat matched as well, outstanding news.
Yep. I simply just cannot see this being any better than a bottom-three team with both Philly and LA improving significantly (from where they were at, that is).
Adrian Wojnarowski @WojVerticalNBA
Free agent guard Greivis Vasquez has agreed to a one-year deal with Brooklyn, league sources tell @TheVertical.
Can someone make me feel a little better?1st off yes you are completely jumping the gun on Jaylen Brown. This draft was a 2 player draft with a big dropoff. Physical limitation project Hield and Murray as role players and Bender and Chriss look a long way from stardom. The other choice would have been Dunn and I would have preferred him but he's older and has a concerning injury history. He's no slam dunk star either. If he was then he would have gone 2nd.
What good is a watch thread if all that's gonna end up happening is Danny picking another player who can't shoot and isn't gonna be productive for us, but who will play defense, ignite the wet dreams of sports journalists, and make guys like Tommy fall in love with them for their "hustle, grit, heart"? If Danny isn't ever gonna find any talent, what good is the watch thread?
We've had 2 top 6 picks in the last 3 drafts, and they both look like they will end up as role players at best (though I admit to jumping the gun a bit based on Jaylen's summer league thus far). I don't wanna draft 2 more role players with these picks. These picks are our best assets. They're the only thing that keeps me happy about this team's future, quite frankly. We aren't winning anything any time soon, and once the Warriors and Cavaliers fall off, teams like the Blazers, Sixers, Wolves, and Lakers will have their young talent in their prime, ready to dominate. Meanwhile, we will have Isaiah and Al on the wrong side of 30, and guys like Avery and Jae not far behind.
Without these picks, the future is rather bleak. We're kinda stuck between elite and decent, and unless Danny miraculously hits on these next 2 picks, it's looking like we will be stuck in this state for the foreseeable future.
I've been what some here would call a "Danny Apologist" for quite some time, but his drafting really has me p---ed. I can't support him like I used to.
I'm just hoping the many hours we spend on this thread don't go to waste for a role player who can't score but plays defense.
Sorry for the overreactions to summer league thus far. I just had to get this out there.
Can someone make me feel a little better?
What good is a watch thread if all that's gonna end up happening is Danny picking another player who can't shoot and isn't gonna be productive for us, but who will play defense, ignite the wet dreams of sports journalists, and make guys like Tommy fall in love with them for their "hustle, grit, heart"? If Danny isn't ever gonna find any talent, what good is the watch thread?
Can someone make me feel a little better?Pump the brakes, don't worry. Every year there is an overreaction to summer league. It isn't like the NBA at all, the level and prep is so much lower. It is primed for individual play and not team play. Hence how Simmons can look LeBron like so far. It's not representative of who they will really be.
What good is a watch thread if all that's gonna end up happening is Danny picking another player who can't shoot and isn't gonna be productive for us, but who will play defense, ignite the wet dreams of sports journalists, and make guys like Tommy fall in love with them for their "hustle, grit, heart"? If Danny isn't ever gonna find any talent, what good is the watch thread?
We've had 2 top 6 picks in the last 3 drafts, and they both look like they will end up as role players at best (though I admit to jumping the gun a bit based on Jaylen's summer league thus far). I don't wanna draft 2 more role players with these picks. These picks are our best assets. They're the only thing that keeps me happy about this team's future, quite frankly. We aren't winning anything any time soon, and once the Warriors and Cavaliers fall off, teams like the Blazers, Sixers, Wolves, and Lakers will have their young talent in their prime, ready to dominate. Meanwhile, we will have Isaiah and Al on the wrong side of 30, and guys like Avery and Jae not far behind.
Without these picks, the future is rather bleak. We're kinda stuck between elite and decent, and unless Danny miraculously hits on these next 2 picks, it's looking like we will be stuck in this state for the foreseeable future.
I've been what some here would call a "Danny Apologist" for quite some time, but his drafting really has me p---ed. I can't support him like I used to.
I'm just hoping the many hours we spend on this thread don't go to waste for a role player who can't score but plays defense.
Sorry for the overreactions to summer league thus far. I just had to get this out there.
You guys think Brooklyn will offer Waiters? Anyone willing to put on offer sheet on him for that matter? lol
You guys think Brooklyn will offer Waiters? Anyone willing to put on offer sheet on him for that matter? lolOKC have Oladipo and the other guy at sg now....so offering or matching for Waiters for big money does not make sense....
You guys think Brooklyn will offer Waiters? Anyone willing to put on offer sheet on him for that matter? lol
You guys think Brooklyn will offer Waiters? Anyone willing to put on offer sheet on him for that matter? lol
It would be excellent to see Waiters eat up 15-20 million of Brooklyn's cap space each year, while eating himself into the forward position and averaging 38% from the floor.
what are you getting at with this bit?You guys think Brooklyn will offer Waiters? Anyone willing to put on offer sheet on him for that matter? lolOKC have Oladipo and the other guy at sg now....so offering or matching for Waiters for big money does not make sense....
I think they did well as far as drafting Caris Lavert....they did draft him 20th but he is a legit player and his play speaks for itself.....just needs to get healthy.
Okafor was there on the table for the 3rd pick.....wish we traded down with the Wolves for Lavine and the #5 for Dunn and then traded the #5 for Okafor. At least Lavine and Okafor we know can play and have upside still/youth.
DRafting Jaylen with the #3 when there are: Stanley Johnson, Winslow, and even Jabari and others makes me scratch my head a bit.
I think people are angry at the value added based on the value of the picks.....they just did not equal eachother and DA could have done a much better job. Jaylen and Yab are good players and no ones angry at those players or that we selected them, IMO people see that we could have traded down and selected those players while also getting more assets and VALUE
You guys think Brooklyn will offer Waiters? Anyone willing to put on offer sheet on him for that matter? lolOKC have Oladipo and the other guy at sg now....so offering or matching for Waiters for big money does not make sense....
I think they did well as far as drafting Caris Lavert....they did draft him 20th but he is a legit player and his play speaks for itself.....just needs to get healthy.
Okafor was there on the table for the 3rd pick.....wish we traded down with the Wolves for Lavine and the #5 for Dunn and then traded the #5 for Okafor. At least Lavine and Okafor we know can play and have upside still/youth.
DRafting Jaylen with the #3 when there are: Stanley Johnson, Winslow, and even Jabari and others makes me scratch my head a bit.
I think people are angry at the value added based on the value of the picks.....they just did not equal eachother and DA could have done a much better job. Jaylen and Yab are good players and no ones angry at those players or that we selected them, IMO people see that we could have traded down and selected those players while also getting more assets and VALUE
You guys think Brooklyn will offer Waiters? Anyone willing to put on offer sheet on him for that matter? lolOKC have Oladipo and the other guy at sg now....so offering or matching for Waiters for big money does not make sense....
I think they did well as far as drafting Caris Lavert....they did draft him 20th but he is a legit player and his play speaks for itself.....just needs to get healthy.
Okafor was there on the table for the 3rd pick.....wish we traded down with the Wolves for Lavine and the #5 for Dunn and then traded the #5 for Okafor. At least Lavine and Okafor we know can play and have upside still/youth.
DRafting Jaylen with the #3 when there are: Stanley Johnson, Winslow, and even Jabari and others makes me scratch my head a bit.
I think people are angry at the value added based on the value of the picks.....they just did not equal eachother and DA could have done a much better job. Jaylen and Yab are good players and no ones angry at those players or that we selected them, IMO people see that we could have traded down and selected those players while also getting more assets and VALUE
Nets pull of a huge coup, getting Luis Scola on a 1-year deal.
http://www.thescore.com/nba/news/1058577-report-nets-scola-agree-to-1-year-deal
DO NOT TRADE THAT '17 pick under any circumstances. No Blake, No Boogie, No Kareem, Noone.
Scola is like 36 years old. He's trending down faaaast. FAAAAASSSSTT!
Speaking of Dunn, how awful does Philly feel about not trading for the 3rd pick in the draft. What a whiff (it looks like right now).
So the Nets' roster stands at 13 by my count, just 2 spots left.
Current depth chart
Jeremy Lin/ Greivis Vasquez/ Isaiah Whitehead
Bojan Bogdanovic/ Sean Kilpatrick/ Joe Harris
Rondae Hollis-Jefferson/ Caris LeVert
Luis Scola/ Trevor Booker/ Chris McCullough
Brook Lopez/ Justin Hamilton
Hopefully the last 2 spots are taken up by Summer League scrubs. If that isn't the worst roster in the league it's very close to it.
So the Nets' roster stands at 13 by my count, just 2 spots left.
Current depth chart
Jeremy Lin/ Greivis Vasquez/ Isaiah Whitehead
Bojan Bogdanovic/ Sean Kilpatrick/ Joe Harris
Rondae Hollis-Jefferson/ Caris LeVert
Luis Scola/ Trevor Booker/ Chris McCullough
Brook Lopez/ Justin Hamilton
Hopefully the last 2 spots are taken up by Summer League scrubs. If that isn't the worst roster in the league it's very close to it.
Trevor Booker is starting over Scola, but regardless, that is the worst roster in the NBA.
Looks like they're about to sign Anthony Bennett: https://twitter.com/MikeAScottoand the celtics position in the draft improves yet again! ;D
So the Nets' roster stands at 13 by my count, just 2 spots left.this really really sucks as a team. good gosh, i am soooo happy.
Current depth chart
Jeremy Lin/ Greivis Vasquez/ Isaiah Whitehead
Bojan Bogdanovic/ Sean Kilpatrick/ Joe Harris
Rondae Hollis-Jefferson/ Caris LeVert
Luis Scola/ Trevor Booker/ Chris McCullough
Brook Lopez/ Justin Hamilton
Hopefully the last 2 spots are taken up by Summer League scrubs. If that isn't the worst roster in the league it's very close to it.
My one concern is that Riley will try to tank next season, just to mess us up.
My one concern is that Riley will try to tank next season, just to mess us up.
Whiteside, Johnson, Dragic, Winslow alone will win you plenty of games. I'm not sure they can lose as many as BKN even if they're trying.
My one concern is that Riley will try to tank next season, just to mess us up.
I believe the Nets don't even own their first this year.My one concern is that Riley will try to tank next season, just to mess us up.
Riley can't tank nearly enough next season to get near the Nets. Compare their starting lineups, and we'll assume Bosh is done.
Dragic > Lin
Richardson > Bogdanovich
Winslow > RHJ
Williams? < Booker
Whiteside > Lopez
Tyler Johnson and Wayne Ellington, while nothing special, are better than anything the Nets have on their bench.
I don't think the Heat will be good. Frankly I expect them to be a bottom 8 team. But it would take a lot for them to drop below the Nets, who shouldn't win 20 games. There's a big difference between not good, like the Heat, and miserably bad, like the Nets.
I believe the Nets don't even own their first this year.My one concern is that Riley will try to tank next season, just to mess us up.
Riley can't tank nearly enough next season to get near the Nets. Compare their starting lineups, and we'll assume Bosh is done.
Dragic > Lin
Richardson > Bogdanovich
Winslow > RHJ
Williams? < Booker
Whiteside > Lopez
Tyler Johnson and Wayne Ellington, while nothing special, are better than anything the Nets have on their bench.
I don't think the Heat will be good. Frankly I expect them to be a bottom 8 team. But it would take a lot for them to drop below the Nets, who shouldn't win 20 games. There's a big difference between not good, like the Heat, and miserably bad, like the Nets.
Adrian Wojnarowski
@WojVerticalNBA
Free agent guard Randy Foye has agreed on a one-year deal with the Brooklyn Nets, league sources tell @TheVertical.
or maybe this board is full of crap on these trade assumptions.You guys think Brooklyn will offer Waiters? Anyone willing to put on offer sheet on him for that matter? lolOKC have Oladipo and the other guy at sg now....so offering or matching for Waiters for big money does not make sense....
I think they did well as far as drafting Caris Lavert....they did draft him 20th but he is a legit player and his play speaks for itself.....just needs to get healthy.
Okafor was there on the table for the 3rd pick.....wish we traded down with the Wolves for Lavine and the #5 for Dunn and then traded the #5 for Okafor. At least Lavine and Okafor we know can play and have upside still/youth.
DRafting Jaylen with the #3 when there are: Stanley Johnson, Winslow, and even Jabari and others makes me scratch my head a bit.
I think people are angry at the value added based on the value of the picks.....they just did not equal eachother and DA could have done a much better job. Jaylen and Yab are good players and no ones angry at those players or that we selected them, IMO people see that we could have traded down and selected those players while also getting more assets and VALUE
Makes perfect sense if Danny is a mind-reader. Maybe you're giving him too much credit in that regard...or hey, maybe YOU are a mind-reader! ::)
It gets better. This guy is awful. Shot 35% from the field on OKC on only wide-open looks. Can't defend anyone. Excellent move by Marks.QuoteAdrian Wojnarowski
@WojVerticalNBA
Free agent guard Randy Foye has agreed on a one-year deal with the Brooklyn Nets, league sources tell @TheVertical.
[dang]. lol Im not sure what happened there. I meant to say the Heat didnt have their pick but this is also incorrect.I believe the Nets don't even own their first this year.My one concern is that Riley will try to tank next season, just to mess us up.
Riley can't tank nearly enough next season to get near the Nets. Compare their starting lineups, and we'll assume Bosh is done.
Dragic > Lin
Richardson > Bogdanovich
Winslow > RHJ
Williams? < Booker
Whiteside > Lopez
Tyler Johnson and Wayne Ellington, while nothing special, are better than anything the Nets have on their bench.
I don't think the Heat will be good. Frankly I expect them to be a bottom 8 team. But it would take a lot for them to drop below the Nets, who shouldn't win 20 games. There's a big difference between not good, like the Heat, and miserably bad, like the Nets.
No, but you're telling Celticsblog that the Nets don't own their pick?
Who is Joe Harris?
Mike
Who is Joe Harris?
Mike
3rd year player who rode the bench for the Cavs his 1st 1.5 seasons before getting hurt, traded, and released.
It gets better. This guy is awful. Shot 35% from the field on OKC on only wide-open looks. Can't defend anyone. Excellent move by Marks.QuoteAdrian Wojnarowski
@WojVerticalNBA
Free agent guard Randy Foye has agreed on a one-year deal with the Brooklyn Nets, league sources tell @TheVertical.
It gets better. This guy is awful. Shot 35% from the field on OKC on only wide-open looks. Can't defend anyone. Excellent move by Marks.QuoteAdrian Wojnarowski
@WojVerticalNBA
Free agent guard Randy Foye has agreed on a one-year deal with the Brooklyn Nets, league sources tell @TheVertical.
Randy Foye? What kind of idiot would have drafted that guy, anyway?
;)
Mike
So Anthony Bennett and Randy Foye round out the roster. Not quite Summer League scrubs but close enough.
Jeremy Lin/ Greivis Vasquez/ Isaiah Whitehead
Bojan Bogdanovic/ Sean Kilpatrick/ Joe Harris
Rondae Hollis-Jefferson/ Caris LeVert/ Randy Foye
Trevor Booker/ Luis Scola/ Anthony Bennett
Brook Lopez/ Justin Hamilton/ Chris McCullough
Allen Crabbe probably would've been the 2nd or 3rd best player on the team if they'd got him. Bad luck 8)
http://www.basketballinsiders.com/nba-am-brooklyn-abandons-rebuild/?utm_medium=facebook&utm_source=twitterfeed
Tibor Pleiss would rather play in Turkey than try out for the Nets.
http://www.netsdaily.com/2016/9/11/12877904/tibor-pleiss-may-work-out-with-brooklyn-nets
Here's some more fun reading material :)
http://www.netsdaily.com/2016/9/5/12799430/and-now-the-most-pessimistic-harshest-assessment-of-the-nets
it's bad. only player you can point to on the entire roster who could start for any but the worst teams in the league is Lopez. even then, there's only Lin and Booker who might actually start for even the worst franchisesSo Anthony Bennett and Randy Foye round out the roster. Not quite Summer League scrubs but close enough.
Jeremy Lin/ Greivis Vasquez/ Isaiah Whitehead
Bojan Bogdanovic/ Sean Kilpatrick/ Joe Harris
Rondae Hollis-Jefferson/ Caris LeVert/ Randy Foye
Trevor Booker/ Luis Scola/ Anthony Bennett
Brook Lopez/ Justin Hamilton/ Chris McCullough
Allen Crabbe probably would've been the 2nd or 3rd best player on the team if they'd got him. Bad luck 8)
thats actually not a bad group, until one or two get plauged with injuries xd
Lopez will truely be a one man team this year.unless Anthony Bennett is suddenly a superstar.
Lopez will truely be a one man team this year.
Lopez will truely be a one man team this year.
I fear Lin could be a fly in the ping pong balls ointment.
Lopez will truely be a one man team this year.
I fear Lin could be a fly in the ping pong balls ointment.
Lopez will truely be a one man team this year.
I fear Lin could be a fly in the ping pong balls ointment.
Lin's on his 6th team in 6 years for a reason and that's not because he's a stud.
So a couple years ago the Nets team that made the playoffs had the following three players other than Lopez receive the most amount of minutes:
Joe Johnson - 14.4 points, 4.8 rebounds, 3.7 assists with 44%/46%/80% shooting in 34.9mpg
Jarret Jack - 12 points, 4.7 assists, 3.1 rebounds with 44%/27%/88% shooting in 28mpg
Deron Williams - 13 points, 6.6 assists, 3.5 rebounds, 39%/37%/83% shooting in 31.1mpg
Last year they lost Deron. Jack went down with an injury. Johnson was bought out. One of their only impact players (RHJ) missed most of the seaosn. The team was predictably terrible as a result.
Brook Lopez remains an impact player. My question is, what's the minimal amount of talent that team would need to add around Lopez for you to start getting worried again? I don't mean contender level... I mean 35-41 wins and a potential accidental playoff berth. The other thing that was different about last year was that the Eastern Conference wasn't total garbage again... two years ago, two different teams made the playoffs with losing records. That wasn't the case last year. So let's define "worst-case" scenario as Brooklyn winning enough games to push their pick outside the Top 10. Last year 34 wins would have earned the 11th pick. What would need to happen to that roster for you to think that was possible?
So a couple years ago the Nets team that made the playoffs had the following three players other than Lopez receive the most amount of minutes:
Joe Johnson - 14.4 points, 4.8 rebounds, 3.7 assists with 44%/46%/80% shooting in 34.9mpg
Jarret Jack - 12 points, 4.7 assists, 3.1 rebounds with 44%/27%/88% shooting in 28mpg
Deron Williams - 13 points, 6.6 assists, 3.5 rebounds, 39%/37%/83% shooting in 31.1mpg
Last year they lost Deron. Jack went down with an injury. Johnson was bought out. One of their only impact players (RHJ) missed most of the seaosn. The team was predictably terrible as a result.
Brook Lopez remains an impact player. My question is, what's the minimal amount of talent that team would need to add around Lopez for you to start getting worried again? I don't mean contender level... I mean 35-41 wins and a potential accidental playoff berth. The other thing that was different about last year was that the Eastern Conference wasn't total garbage again... two years ago, two different teams made the playoffs with losing records. That wasn't the case last year. So let's define "worst-case" scenario as Brooklyn winning enough games to push their pick outside the Top 10. Last year 34 wins would have earned the 11th pick. What would need to happen to that roster for you to think that was possible?
Wow!! Do we really own their pick, unprotected, again?
The gift that keeps giving. When the dust finally settles on that trade, it might be the greatest deal in history. It's already one of the best ever. As a direct result of that trade we have Isaiah Thomas, Jaylen Brown, James Young and Tyler Zeller... plus the 2017 Brooklyn pick swap and the 2018 Brooklyn pick.Wow!! Do we really own their pick, unprotected, again?
Well, not technically. We only have the ability to switch the pick, so we only have one first rounder this year. The dang Steipien rule screwed us over from fleecing them even harder! :P
Lopez will truely be a one man team this year.
I fear Lin could be a fly in the ping pong balls ointment.
Lin's on his 6th team in 6 years for a reason and that's not because he's a stud.
he is best served in the role he was in last year, offense against bench units. Ask him to do more than that (which the nets are) and it is trouble.
The gift that keeps giving. When the dust finally settles on that trade, it might be the greatest deal in history. It's already one of the best ever. As a direct result of that trade we have Isaiah Thomas, Jaylen Brown, James Young and Tyler Zeller... plus the 2017 Brooklyn pick swap and the 2018 Brooklyn pick.Wow!! Do we really own their pick, unprotected, again?
Well, not technically. We only have the ability to switch the pick, so we only have one first rounder this year. The dang Steipien rule screwed us over from fleecing them even harder! :P
Can you imagine trading either Jaylen or Thomas for KG + Pierce right now? Lol
The Nets are going to be horrible. But, don't underestimate the impact Greivis Vasquez can have on that team. He plays great when given minutes, which he will get on the Nets. I also think their prospects, McCullough and Levert, are pretty talented. They will lose a lot of games, sure, but they are not as horrible as some may think.
Wow!! Do we really own their pick, unprotected, again?
Well, not technically. We only have the ability to switch the pick, so we only have one first rounder this year. The dang Steipien rule screwed us over from fleecing them even harder! :P
They sure look bad on paper but they won't be trying to lose and there's always horrible teams trying to do that so unfortunately I don't think we are a lock at a top 4 pick. It sure seems we have to be a lock for a top 6 though and an extremely likely top 5.
Im not as excited as you. I worry about their hustle and coaching. Plus they have a handful of NBA players on that team.Wow!! Do we really own their pick, unprotected, again?
Well, not technically. We only have the ability to switch the pick, so we only have one first rounder this year. The dang Steipien rule screwed us over from fleecing them even harder! :P
Not to mention that we have their first rounder again next year, and that one is outright ours.They sure look bad on paper but they won't be trying to lose and there's always horrible teams trying to do that so unfortunately I don't think we are a lock at a top 4 pick. It sure seems we have to be a lock for a top 6 though and an extremely likely top 5.
No. I'm as pessimistic as they come and I can't figure out a way in which they are not one of the three worst teams. I've tried, if for no other reason than to satisfy the irrational part of me that even considers jinxes. But they are horrible. They're awful. Even if BL were healthy 82 games, which he won't be, they'll still stink.
Try as a I might, I just can't come up with a way to view them as anything but, "yes, they are that bad."
Mike
Im not as excited as you. I worry about their hustle and coaching. Plus they have a handful of NBA players on that team.Wow!! Do we really own their pick, unprotected, again?
Well, not technically. We only have the ability to switch the pick, so we only have one first rounder this year. The dang Steipien rule screwed us over from fleecing them even harder! :P
Not to mention that we have their first rounder again next year, and that one is outright ours.They sure look bad on paper but they won't be trying to lose and there's always horrible teams trying to do that so unfortunately I don't think we are a lock at a top 4 pick. It sure seems we have to be a lock for a top 6 though and an extremely likely top 5.
No. I'm as pessimistic as they come and I can't figure out a way in which they are not one of the three worst teams. I've tried, if for no other reason than to satisfy the irrational part of me that even considers jinxes. But they are horrible. They're awful. Even if BL were healthy 82 games, which he won't be, they'll still stink.
Try as a I might, I just can't come up with a way to view them as anything but, "yes, they are that bad."
Mike
Bennett looks like he might actually make contributions this year. He always had the tools. He just hadn't put it together.
So, I'm watching the Nets play against the Heat on NBATV. Not that this Heat team is really any good either, but the Nets look like they're going to compete on many nights and not just lay down for losses.
Lin is one of those players that will always be able to get his own offense, which will keep them in some games itself, and RHJ is surprising me watching him play. They're going to be bad no matter what, but especially after the Simmons injury in Philly, I don't think they'll run away with the number one worst record. It'll be a pretty close race all season long.
I'm kind of hoping we just ultimately trade the pick for someone like Boogie, which will make this season a bit more enjoyable not stressing over every single win by the Nets lol
Celtics should do their part, and beat the Nets in all their confrontations this year.
So, I'm watching the Nets play against the Heat on NBATV. Not that this Heat team is really any good either, but the Nets look like they're going to compete on many nights and not just lay down for losses.
Lin is one of those players that will always be able to get his own offense, which will keep them in some games itself, and RHJ is surprising me watching him play. They're going to be bad no matter what, but especially after the Simmons injury in Philly, I don't think they'll run away with the number one worst record. It'll be a pretty close race all season long.
I'm kind of hoping we just ultimately trade the pick for someone like Boogie, which will make this season a bit more enjoyable not stressing over every single win by the Nets lol
So, I'm watching the Nets play against the Heat on NBATV. Not that this Heat team is really any good either, but the Nets look like they're going to compete on many nights and not just lay down for losses.
Lin is one of those players that will always be able to get his own offense, which will keep them in some games itself, and RHJ is surprising me watching him play. They're going to be bad no matter what, but especially after the Simmons injury in Philly, I don't think they'll run away with the number one worst record. It'll be a pretty close race all season long.
I'm kind of hoping we just ultimately trade the pick for someone like Boogie, which will make this season a bit more enjoyable not stressing over every single win by the Nets lol
I probably agree with your overall point mostly, but kind of weird to see people stressing in a game where they were down 25+ before the benches were emptied. Am
I missing something? Meanwhile the lakers are in overtime In a game lillard scored 30 (but did not play in 4th or overtime)
So, I'm watching the Nets play against the Heat on NBATV. Not that this Heat team is really any good either, but the Nets look like they're going to compete on many nights and not just lay down for losses.
Lin is one of those players that will always be able to get his own offense, which will keep them in some games itself, and RHJ is surprising me watching him play. They're going to be bad no matter what, but especially after the Simmons injury in Philly, I don't think they'll run away with the number one worst record. It'll be a pretty close race all season long.
I'm kind of hoping we just ultimately trade the pick for someone like Boogie, which will make this season a bit more enjoyable not stressing over every single win by the Nets lol
I probably agree with your overall point mostly, but kind of weird to see people stressing in a game where they were down 25+ before the benches were emptied. Am
I missing something? Meanwhile the lakers are in overtime In a game lillard scored 30 (but did not play in 4th or overtime)
They were tied and playing well midway through the third when I made the post. I actually stopped paying attention after that lol
As for the Lakers, I'm not really worried about them. I think they're better than most people give them credit for, and they should win enough to not be a threat to the Nets record.
eh. Walton is whatever. Sure he led the Warriors to a great record, but Im sure pretty much anyone could have.So, I'm watching the Nets play against the Heat on NBATV. Not that this Heat team is really any good either, but the Nets look like they're going to compete on many nights and not just lay down for losses.
Lin is one of those players that will always be able to get his own offense, which will keep them in some games itself, and RHJ is surprising me watching him play. They're going to be bad no matter what, but especially after the Simmons injury in Philly, I don't think they'll run away with the number one worst record. It'll be a pretty close race all season long.
I'm kind of hoping we just ultimately trade the pick for someone like Boogie, which will make this season a bit more enjoyable not stressing over every single win by the Nets lol
I probably agree with your overall point mostly, but kind of weird to see people stressing in a game where they were down 25+ before the benches were emptied. Am
I missing something? Meanwhile the lakers are in overtime In a game lillard scored 30 (but did not play in 4th or overtime)
They were tied and playing well midway through the third when I made the post. I actually stopped paying attention after that lol
As for the Lakers, I'm not really worried about them. I think they're better than most people give them credit for, and they should win enough to not be a threat to the Nets record.
the Lakers are gonna be scary good in a couple of years. it sucks to say this, but the core they have is very very nice.
Russell looks like the real deal (minus tonight, he stunk it up pretty bad tonight). now that he's been unleashed from the wrath of Byron Scott, hes gonna have a big year, and i wouldnt be surprised to see him average like 20 a game this year.
Clarkson is a good scoring guard, although i also see him as a chucker at times (walton has him as their 6th man right now, not sure if i agree).
Ingram has struggled thus far, but if he pans out as expected, hes also gonna be a good player.
Randle is a double double machine, although i am not a huge fan of his game personally (cant shoot, cant defend, no right hand, often reckless and with tunnel vision).
then theyve got solid complimentary pieces. they picked Zubac i think at 32nd overall this year, hes a big body and hes from croatia too (he actually was Zizic's backup i think for a bit over as Cibona before moving on to Mega Leks), in terms of pure skillset he probably is better than zizic, at least right now. and maybe my favorite laker (if such a thing exists) after D'Angelo russell is Larry Nance Jr. great defender, good rebounder, explosive, good person overall too (battles crohn's disease as well), showed in summer league that he's worked on his jumper and can have a nice pick and pop game with russell.
basically, theyve got a lot of nice young talent (and coach Walton now), and while i dont like all of them a whole ton, I think they rise up the ranks in the west very quickly.
Bennett looks like he might actually make contributions this year. He always had the tools. He just hadn't put it together.
Bennett looks like he might actually make contributions this year. He always had the tools. He just hadn't put it together.
http://www.masslive.com/celtics/index.ssf/2016/10/anthony_bennett_a_brooklyn_net.html
http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/17873365/nba-power-rankings-preseason-edition
This trade deadline promises to be exciting if Marc Stein is right here..
http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/17873365/nba-power-rankings-preseason-edition
This trade deadline promises to be exciting if Marc Stein is right here..
What specifically are you pointing to with this comment? I didn't really see anything with this link other than a fairly uncontroversial power rankings list.
http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/17873365/nba-power-rankings-preseason-edition
This trade deadline promises to be exciting if Marc Stein is right here..
What specifically are you pointing to with this comment? I didn't really see anything with this link other than a fairly uncontroversial power rankings list.
Brooklyn anchored to the bottom. Value of pick skyrockets if accurate at deadline.
There's still a chance that team might play itself out of the bottom 5.i'm worried about this too
There's still a chance that team might play itself out of the bottom 5.
it's like the movie major leagueThere's still a chance that team might play itself out of the bottom 5.
Yup, they have no incentive to lose. The coach will do everything he can to win so that has to mean something. I'm going to be happy with a top ten pick tbh. Hard to complain if that is what ends up happening.
The paradox with the Nets is they have no incentive to tank but they have every incentive to trade existing assets. Brook Lopez is going to be 30 and asking for a max contract before have their own first round pick back and I think they've only got two second round picks through the year 2020.the answer to your question is simple and clear. why punish your own team just to spite another team?
They need picks and young players with upside and can only get them by trading their veterans. If you are the Nets, do you tough it out for two more seasons just to deny Boston a better pick or do you take the best deal you can get for Lopez?
Mike
How much can you get for Brook Lopez?The paradox with the Nets is they have no incentive to tank but they have every incentive to trade existing assets. Brook Lopez is going to be 30 and asking for a max contract before have their own first round pick back and I think they've only got two second round picks through the year 2020.the answer to your question is simple and clear. why punish your own team just to spite another team?
They need picks and young players with upside and can only get them by trading their veterans. If you are the Nets, do you tough it out for two more seasons just to deny Boston a better pick or do you take the best deal you can get for Lopez?
Mike
since the draft will not help your team, you ignore it as an option and instead rebuild through trades and free agents.
so they should trade whom you can for what they can to start the rebuild.
How much can you get for Brook Lopez?The paradox with the Nets is they have no incentive to tank but they have every incentive to trade existing assets. Brook Lopez is going to be 30 and asking for a max contract before have their own first round pick back and I think they've only got two second round picks through the year 2020.the answer to your question is simple and clear. why punish your own team just to spite another team?
They need picks and young players with upside and can only get them by trading their veterans. If you are the Nets, do you tough it out for two more seasons just to deny Boston a better pick or do you take the best deal you can get for Lopez?
Mike
since the draft will not help your team, you ignore it as an option and instead rebuild through trades and free agents.
so they should trade whom you can for what they can to start the rebuild.
I doubt they get a top 10 pick for the guy (or equivalent value in a young player) so I think Lopez as a leader and someone who can keep them resembling an NBA team could be more valuable to them long term than the late Lotto pick he might return.
There's still a chance that team might play itself out of the bottom 5.
Yup, they have no incentive to lose. The coach will do everything he can to win so that has to mean something. I'm going to be happy with a top ten pick tbh. Hard to complain if that is what ends up happening.
Just curious...There's still a chance that team might play itself out of the bottom 5.i'm worried about this too
They definitely look a little better this year
Plus they won't tank
I'm hoping they trade Lopez while his value is high, but I'm not counting on it
Part of me hopes we trade the picks while the value is high
Im worried about finishing 2 or 3, not anything higher than that. The roster is similarly horrible but they do look like they will try hard, for a while at least. I wouldn't trade this pick in fear that it won't be a great asset.There's still a chance that team might play itself out of the bottom 5.i'm worried about this too
They definitely look a little better this year
Plus they won't tank
I'm hoping they trade Lopez while his value is high, but I'm not counting on it
Part of me hopes we trade the picks while the value is high
Lets keep in mind that during our 2014-2015 playoff run we had one of the least talented rosters in the entire NBA.Im worried about finishing 2 or 3, not anything higher than that. The roster is similarly horrible but they do like they will try hard, for a while at least. I wouldn't trade this pick in fear that it won't be a great asset.There's still a chance that team might play itself out of the bottom 5.i'm worried about this too
They definitely look a little better this year
Plus they won't tank
I'm hoping they trade Lopez while his value is high, but I'm not counting on it
Part of me hopes we trade the picks while the value is high
And lets also keep in mind that the nets don't have CBS as their coach.Lets keep in mind that during our 2014-2015 playoff run we had one of the least talented rosters in the entire NBA.Im worried about finishing 2 or 3, not anything higher than that. The roster is similarly horrible but they do like they will try hard, for a while at least. I wouldn't trade this pick in fear that it won't be a great asset.There's still a chance that team might play itself out of the bottom 5.i'm worried about this too
They definitely look a little better this year
Plus they won't tank
I'm hoping they trade Lopez while his value is high, but I'm not counting on it
Part of me hopes we trade the picks while the value is high
no but Kenny Atkinson is well regarded around the league and the mentality of the Nets this time around seems better. It is within the realm of possibility that last year vets like Johnson Jack and Young were frustrated with the ****iness of the team. The 2016-17 nets seem to have bought into the whole play hard every day thing.And lets also keep in mind that the nets don't have CBS as their coach.Lets keep in mind that during our 2014-2015 playoff run we had one of the least talented rosters in the entire NBA.Im worried about finishing 2 or 3, not anything higher than that. The roster is similarly horrible but they do like they will try hard, for a while at least. I wouldn't trade this pick in fear that it won't be a great asset.There's still a chance that team might play itself out of the bottom 5.i'm worried about this too
They definitely look a little better this year
Plus they won't tank
I'm hoping they trade Lopez while his value is high, but I'm not counting on it
Part of me hopes we trade the picks while the value is high
The nets had one of the least talented rosters in the NBA for all of last year. It did not seem to help them.
LOL at the Nets letting Jonathan Simmons through their fingers
Lopez is going to be traded. It would be nonsensical for them to keep him when there is no way they max him after next season (unless they wish to continue as one of the most poorly run teams in sport). No reason for the Celtics to massively overpay, it's a move Brooklyn has to make, and the next best offer would be something like a late first or two from a team whose picks are guaranteed to be in the 20s.
Still not sure why we'd be interested in the player anyway. Doesn't improve our rebounding or provide even close to the dominant paint presence we're looking for. Meanwhile he's going to preside over another 20-something win season. Hard pass.
Lopez is going to be traded. It would be nonsensical for them to keep him when there is no way they max him after next season (unless they wish to continue as one of the most poorly run teams in sport). No reason for the Celtics to massively overpay, it's a move Brooklyn has to make, and the next best offer would be something like a late first or two from a team whose picks are guaranteed to be in the 20s.
Still not sure why we'd be interested in the player anyway. Doesn't improve our rebounding or provide even close to the dominant paint presence we're looking for. Meanwhile he's going to preside over another 20-something win season. Hard pass.
Agree. He doesn't push us over the top. I'm not giving up a key 1st for him. Maybe our own 2018 and a few other pieces.
My guess is that they could get a better haul for him at the trade deadline than they could today (even though he will be down from 2 years to 1.5), since some team will be desperate, but do they want to risk an injury before that time, which would get them nothing?
Mike
So the team most analysts have predicted would be better than us just got destroyed at the end by the worst team in the league. Are we allowed to panick yet or what?I guess it's ok to be concerned. They've certainly looked good these first two games. But, let's see what happens as teams stop overlooking them and prepare for their style of play, etc..
So the team most analysts have predicted would be better than us just got destroyed at the end by the worst team in the league. Are we allowed to panick yet or what?Which analysts said the Pacers would be better? ESPN, 538, Nylon Calculus, Vegas odds, all have the Celtics as the better team.
So the team most analysts have predicted would be better than us just got destroyed at the end by the worst team in the league. Are we allowed to panick yet or what?Which analysts said the Pacers would be better? ESPN, 538, Nylon Calculus, Vegas odds, all have the Celtics as the better team.
Looks like I'll be avoiding this thread until around February.
A healthy nets team has always been a concern. Need them to get decimated by injuries like last year.
So the team most analysts have predicted would be better than us just got destroyed at the end by the worst team in the league. Are we allowed to panick yet or what?
So the team most analysts have predicted would be better than us just got destroyed at the end by the worst team in the league. Are we allowed to panick yet or what?
The Pacers aren't actually very good. They're gonna be around .500 all year.
I'm pretty sure the Celts will be a lot better than that.
The Nets ... are going to be competitive-ish as long as their main guys are healthy. Their bench is inexperienced and very not-good. But Lin is a real NBA point guard. Lopez is a nice NBA center. Some of those other guys have real NBA skills. They'll hang around in more games than we'd like.
I'm kind of glad about this for two reasons: 1) people can calm down about our loss the other night, and 2) it shows that the Pacers are not this near superteam that some are claiming them to be.
You know it's time to panic, because eddie20 finally removed my warning about Brooklyn from his fanboy signature. Even he's worried.Lol ... Imo, anyone who thinks this Net team is a top three lottery pick is straight outta their mind.
You know it's time to panic, because eddie20 finally removed my warning about Brooklyn from his fanboy signature. Even he's worried.Lol ... Imo, anyone who thinks this Net team is a top three lottery pick is straight outta their mind.
You know it's time to panic, because eddie20 finally removed my warning about Brooklyn from his fanboy signature. Even he's worried.Lol ... Imo, anyone who thinks this Net team is a top three lottery pick is straight outta their mind.
It's too early to say that. An injury to Lin would make them easily the worst team in the league. It's way too early to say where the Nets are gonna finish
one league source tells NetsDaily Lopez is unlikely to play in any second game of back-to-back’s this season. That’s 14 games.
You know it's time to panic, because eddie20 finally removed my warning about Brooklyn from his fanboy signature. Even he's worried.Lol ... Imo, anyone who thinks this Net team is a top three lottery pick is straight outta their mind.
It's too early to say that. An injury to Lin would make them easily the worst team in the league. It's way too early to say where the Nets are gonna finish
Also, it likes like that they will be without Lopez for at least 14 games this season. This from an SB Nation article:Quoteone league source tells NetsDaily Lopez is unlikely to play in any second game of back-to-back’s this season. That’s 14 games.
http://www.netsdaily.com/2016/10/29/13463736/brooklyn-nets-take-a-trip-to-milwaukee-bucks-mirza-teletovic-trevor-booker#comments
They snuck up on the Pacers, just like they did to us at the end. They got taken lightly. They'll be a bottom 5 team.
Just read that B Lopez is out tonight to "rest". Looks like he will be sitting out on the back end of back to back games this year (think that's 14 games).That's not how I read it. Apparently he has occassionally sat out back end of back-to-back games in the past. There's been no new injury or anything that I'm aware of so it's probably not going to be anything different this year than in the past.
Good news for us.
Just read that B Lopez is out tonight to "rest". Looks like he will be sitting out on the back end of back to back games this year (think that's 14 games).That's not how I read it. Apparently he has occassionally sat out back end of back-to-back games in the past. There's been no new injury or anything that I'm aware of so it's probably not going to be anything different this year than in the past.
Good news for us.
Tonight was probably more a reaction to 3 games in 4 nights. He played yesterday (Friday) and also two days before that (Wednesday). They are also scheduled to play on Monday. Rest tonight makes some sense.
BKN on the 2nd night of a BtB, no Lopez and yet Milwaukee is only up by 4.The Bucks look terrible so far this year.
Mike
BKN on the 2nd night of a BtB, no Lopez and yet Milwaukee is only up by 4.The Bucks look terrible so far this year.
Mike
I heard Pops rested Parker and Ginobilli on their home opener.Just read that B Lopez is out tonight to "rest". Looks like he will be sitting out on the back end of back to back games this year (think that's 14 games).That's not how I read it. Apparently he has occassionally sat out back end of back-to-back games in the past. There's been no new injury or anything that I'm aware of so it's probably not going to be anything different this year than in the past.
Good news for us.
Tonight was probably more a reaction to 3 games in 4 nights. He played yesterday (Friday) and also two days before that (Wednesday). They are also scheduled to play on Monday. Rest tonight makes some sense.
Resting a healthy player on the 3rd game of the season is practically unheard of, even if it's a back to back.
He played in back to backs last season, until he was shut down towards the end.
That may all be true, but this is not the bottom 3 bkn team that so many of us, myself included, believed they would be. They shouldn't have lost to Indy and Milwaukee should have beaten them easily tonight.
Mike
I heard Pops rested Parker and Ginobilli on their home opener.Just read that B Lopez is out tonight to "rest". Looks like he will be sitting out on the back end of back to back games this year (think that's 14 games).That's not how I read it. Apparently he has occassionally sat out back end of back-to-back games in the past. There's been no new injury or anything that I'm aware of so it's probably not going to be anything different this year than in the past.
Good news for us.
Tonight was probably more a reaction to 3 games in 4 nights. He played yesterday (Friday) and also two days before that (Wednesday). They are also scheduled to play on Monday. Rest tonight makes some sense.
Resting a healthy player on the 3rd game of the season is practically unheard of, even if it's a back to back.
He played in back to backs last season, until he was shut down towards the end.
Good lord are the Nets actually going to be a good team this season?
Good thing this draft is DEEP even between picks 5-10... But man it would have been so much better to get a pick between 1-3. Might have to hope the Sixers, Lakers, Pelicans and Suns exceed some expectations and play better than last season. Otherwise Nets pick might end up outside top-5...
He sat a random back-to-back with rest last season in early March as well. My point is that this isn't some new approach where they are holding him out of all back-to-backs. This is a guy who had significant injury history, but was able to play 73 games last year and 72 games the year before. Over teh past couple years, he's been less injury prone than Marcus Smart.Just read that B Lopez is out tonight to "rest". Looks like he will be sitting out on the back end of back to back games this year (think that's 14 games).That's not how I read it. Apparently he has occassionally sat out back end of back-to-back games in the past. There's been no new injury or anything that I'm aware of so it's probably not going to be anything different this year than in the past.
Good news for us.
Tonight was probably more a reaction to 3 games in 4 nights. He played yesterday (Friday) and also two days before that (Wednesday). They are also scheduled to play on Monday. Rest tonight makes some sense.
Resting a healthy player on the 3rd game of the season is practically unheard of, even if it's a back to back.
He played in back to backs last season, until he was shut down towards the end.
"What we're trying to do with Brook is take the long-term approach, just build him up as the season goes on and increase his minutes. We have a plan in place," Atkinson said. "It's learning the system, it's looking at a long-term approach to how we're going to build him up in terms of minutes as the season goes on. He's got some miles on him."
The Nets have outplayed all 3 of their opponents handily in the 4th quarter. They deserve credit.
But the Bucks looked really bad on defense. There were so many defensive breakdowns that really reflects poorly on their coaching. Should never have been a close game with Brook Lopez out. They have a lot of tape to watch.
He sat a random back-to-back with rest last season in early March as well. My point is that this isn't some new approach where they are holding him out of all back-to-backs. This is a guy who had significant injury history, but was able to play 73 games last year and 72 games the year before. Over teh past couple years, he's been less injury prone than Marcus Smart.Just read that B Lopez is out tonight to "rest". Looks like he will be sitting out on the back end of back to back games this year (think that's 14 games).That's not how I read it. Apparently he has occassionally sat out back end of back-to-back games in the past. There's been no new injury or anything that I'm aware of so it's probably not going to be anything different this year than in the past.
Good news for us.
Tonight was probably more a reaction to 3 games in 4 nights. He played yesterday (Friday) and also two days before that (Wednesday). They are also scheduled to play on Monday. Rest tonight makes some sense.
Resting a healthy player on the 3rd game of the season is practically unheard of, even if it's a back to back.
He played in back to backs last season, until he was shut down towards the end.
Here's the explanation for him missing the game tonight (that they nearly won without him):Quote"What we're trying to do with Brook is take the long-term approach, just build him up as the season goes on and increase his minutes. We have a plan in place," Atkinson said. "It's learning the system, it's looking at a long-term approach to how we're going to build him up in terms of minutes as the season goes on. He's got some miles on him."
All I'm saying is don't suggest that Lopez is now sitting out of all back-to-backs based on one game.
Brooklyn is still scary. As long as Lopez is healthy and they are getting some additional contributions from guys like Lin (something they didn't have last year as their entire team was decimated with injuries), they can play themselves out of the bottom 5.
He sat a random back-to-back with rest last season in early March as well. My point is that this isn't some new approach where they are holding him out of all back-to-backs. This is a guy who had significant injury history, but was able to play 73 games last year and 72 games the year before. Over teh past couple years, he's been less injury prone than Marcus Smart.Just read that B Lopez is out tonight to "rest". Looks like he will be sitting out on the back end of back to back games this year (think that's 14 games).That's not how I read it. Apparently he has occassionally sat out back end of back-to-back games in the past. There's been no new injury or anything that I'm aware of so it's probably not going to be anything different this year than in the past.
Good news for us.
Tonight was probably more a reaction to 3 games in 4 nights. He played yesterday (Friday) and also two days before that (Wednesday). They are also scheduled to play on Monday. Rest tonight makes some sense.
Resting a healthy player on the 3rd game of the season is practically unheard of, even if it's a back to back.
He played in back to backs last season, until he was shut down towards the end.
Here's the explanation for him missing the game tonight (that they nearly won without him):Quote"What we're trying to do with Brook is take the long-term approach, just build him up as the season goes on and increase his minutes. We have a plan in place," Atkinson said. "It's learning the system, it's looking at a long-term approach to how we're going to build him up in terms of minutes as the season goes on. He's got some miles on him."
All I'm saying is don't suggest that Lopez is now sitting out of all back-to-backs based on one game.
Brooklyn is still scary. As long as Lopez is healthy and they are getting some additional contributions from guys like Lin (something they didn't have last year as their entire team was decimated with injuries), they can play themselves out of the bottom 5.
March is towards the end of the season, not the 3rd game in October. I'd actually agree with the Nets approach though - it makes far more sense to preserve Lopez's health. He's the only major trade chip they have, and the only chance they have of salvaging a 20-25 win season if they hang on to him.
To say that Brooklyn is scary is hyperbole at best. They do look better than last year - through 3 games. They're more aggressive and the ball moves better. Doesn't mean they're a decent team. They lack what wins in the NBA, which is upper echelon talent. Not even Popovich could coach that team to a .500 record.
It's only 2 or 3 games. As an example of overreactions to a small sample size - the worst defensive team in the league through 2 or 3 games, per defensive rating (points allowed per 100 possessions) is the Golden State Warriors at 112.7 rating. Yet they're widely considered to be the favorite to win it all.
I'm confident that Brooklyn will remain a bottom 5 team in the league.
"I'd actually agree with the Nets approach though - it makes far more sense to preserve Lopez's health. He's the only major trade chip they have"
Quote"I'd actually agree with the Nets approach though - it makes far more sense to preserve Lopez's health. He's the only major trade chip they have"
How will this strategy help Lopez's trade value? Having him ride the pine or not even suit up at all will only decrease his trade value and further the notion that he's fragile or not healthy at all. The guy is 28, not 38. Tim Duncan played more games in his late thirties than this guy does. He's clearly not 100% if they're doing this....
Completely disagree. He's a veteran center in the NBA. GMs and coaches around the league know his game and what he brings to the table. Having him sit out doesn't diminish his value. As is, his value is enough to get the Nets multiple picks, probably a combination of 1st and 2nd rounders, and possibly some young players to add to their rebuild.
On the other hand, if he does suffer a long-term injury, especially to his foot that has been problematic in the past, he basically loses all value and won't fetch the Nets much at all. That's why they shut him down towards the end of last season. It doesn't make sense to risk his health since they're not even going to make the playoffs this year. Even the Nets management has said that wins are not the goal of this season.
QuoteCompletely disagree. He's a veteran center in the NBA. GMs and coaches around the league know his game and what he brings to the table. Having him sit out doesn't diminish his value. As is, his value is enough to get the Nets multiple picks, probably a combination of 1st and 2nd rounders, and possibly some young players to add to their rebuild.
On the other hand, if he does suffer a long-term injury, especially to his foot that has been problematic in the past, he basically loses all value and won't fetch the Nets much at all. That's why they shut him down towards the end of last season. It doesn't make sense to risk his health since they're not even going to make the playoffs this year. Even the Nets management has said that wins are not the goal of this season.
Yeah, vehemently disagree with your entire post & premise.
*No way riding the bench doesn't diminish his value. It doesn't look good to other gm's.
*There's no way Lopez fetches a basket of picks and players. They'll get one first round pick, teens to late lottery (8 and upwards), that's if he's 100% healthy. No one is going to give up the farm for a slow seven footer with an injury history who is not a rim protector.
It's become evident that the Nets will live and die by the three. Luckily for us, their roster is comprised of pretty crappy shooters.
Nets are starting to fall back to earth but they have been a good 4th quarter team.A 1-2 team falling back to earth? That bodes well for our pick.
Nets are starting to fall back to earth but they have been a good 4th quarter team.Not tonight. ;D
It's become evident that the Nets will live and die by the three. Luckily for us, their roster is comprised of pretty crappy shooters.
I keep saying it - but they're the Charlotte Hornets without the defense. There's going to be nights that they are kept in the game by their threeball, but they're going to shoot themselves out of games most nights. They just don't have the personnel, largely like the Hornets, to play that sort of way. I'm still surprised that Charlotte has won so many games with that terrible type of offense, though they're greatly helped by the iso abilities of Batum and Walker.
It's become evident that the Nets will live and die by the three. Luckily for us, their roster is comprised of pretty crappy shooters.
I keep saying it - but they're the Charlotte Hornets without the defense. There's going to be nights that they are kept in the game by their threeball, but they're going to shoot themselves out of games most nights. They just don't have the personnel, largely like the Hornets, to play that sort of way. I'm still surprised that Charlotte has won so many games with that terrible type of offense, though they're greatly helped by the iso abilities of Batum and Walker.
I'm not sure that's an apt comparison. Charlotte shot a ton of threes last year (4th most), but shot them well (8th in 3P%). What Brooklyn is is our offense from last year: crazy volume, terrible percentage. Except they're coupling that with horrible defense, which is not exactly a recipe for success.
And people laughed when I said 35-40 wins. That pick is gonna be worthless.... :(barring injury they can be much better than expected.
The NBA is a strange league. After scoring 88 points total against the Bulls 2 nights ago, Brooklyn puts up 71 points on 71%(!) shooting against Detroit in the 1st half. Combination of terrible Detroit defense and the Nets making everything they throw at the basket.brook Lopez showed up
The NBA is a strange league. After scoring 88 points total against the Bulls 2 nights ago, Brooklyn puts up 71 points on 71%(!) shooting against Detroit in the 1st half. Combination of terrible Detroit defense and the Nets making everything they throw at the basket.brook Lopez showed up
And people laughed when I said 35-40 wins. That pick is gonna be worthless.... :(
Exactly, and if guys like RHJ get his shooting stroke figured-out, all bets are off.
For example, people were giving Jeremy Lin grief the other night because of his lack of assists against the Bulls. He made a LOT of good passes to open Net players, but they were bricklayers all night. How's that on him, he did his job. One of the passes Hamilton fumbled away but Lin was charged with the turnover. Lin can't do everything for them.
Some people came out with this doom and gloom prediction last season too. They were way off. The Nets look better this year so far, but it's still very early and I'd argue that 35 wins is a stretch.
And people laughed when I said 35-40 wins. That pick is gonna be worthless.... :(
They may be better than expected (I predicted a top 3 worse record) but they just won by 8 while shooting 58% from the floor and 48% from 3. That is not going to happen often, if at all, the rest of the season. Let' wait till December to roll around to see what they actually are as a team. They got a road trip coming up so hopefully they'll only win one game (either Phoenix or Lakers), if that, and plummet back to earth.And people laughed when I said 35-40 wins. That pick is gonna be worthless.... :(barring injury they can be much better than expected.
And people laughed when I said 35-40 wins. That pick is gonna be worthless.... :(
The Nets are 2-3, which equates to about 33 wins. Which is a top 10 pick last year. Given the depth of next years draft, how is that worthless?
Some people came out with this doom and gloom prediction last season too. They were way off. The Nets look better this year so far, but it's still very early and I'd argue that 35 wins is a stretch.
Not sure what 'doom and gloom' you're talking about. The Nets started 0-9 last season, people all over New England were rejoicing that the C's actually had a shot at a transformative player like Ben Simmons. At no point last season, did the Nets resemble anything but a dumpster fire, and we all knew they were a surefire top 5 pick once they were twenty games in.
Some people came out with this doom and gloom prediction last season too. They were way off. The Nets look better this year so far, but it's still very early and I'd argue that 35 wins is a stretch.
Not sure what 'doom and gloom' you're talking about. The Nets started 0-9 last season, people all over New England were rejoicing that the C's actually had a shot at a transformative player like Ben Simmons. At no point last season, did the Nets resemble anything but a dumpster fire, and we all knew they were a surefire top 5 pick once they were twenty games in.
well stated SC34 so a tp is headed your way.
Some people came out with this doom and gloom prediction last season too. They were way off. The Nets look better this year so far, but it's still very early and I'd argue that 35 wins is a stretch.
Not sure what 'doom and gloom' you're talking about. The Nets started 0-9 last season, people all over New England were rejoicing that the C's actually had a shot at a transformative player like Ben Simmons. At no point last season, did the Nets resemble anything but a dumpster fire, and we all knew they were a surefire top 5 pick once they were twenty games in.
In other words, some people, both before and after their 0-9 start, kept persisting that the Nets would pick up steam and hit 35 wins. And they did pick up steam. Recall that they were one blown Brook Lopez layup away from defeating Golden State on their home turf. After they picked up a few wins, there was some panicking around here and knee-jerk reactions just like yours, calling the pick "worthless" and urging Danny to trade it away.
They beat Detroit last night (it became a close game in the 4th even after the Nets had led by 21 points in the 3rd quarter) because of an aberration of a 1st half, where they shot 9-13 from 3, with Lopez hitting 4 of 5, and 71% shooting overall. That's extremely unlikely to happen again.
I'll be happy to eat crow if the Nets do hit 35 wins. I just don't see it happening, despite their "good" 2-3 start.
Exactly, and if guys like RHJ get his shooting stroke figured-out, all bets are off.
For example, people were giving Jeremy Lin grief the other night because of his lack of assists against the Bulls. He made a LOT of good passes to open Net players, but they were bricklayers all night. How's that on him, he did his job. One of the passes Hamilton fumbled away but Lin was charged with the turnover. Lin can't do everything for them.
Lin has looked really good so far. Crafty player with a very solid offensive game. Hate to root against him because he plays on the Nets. He did leave the game with a hamstring strain today, but it didn't look bad.
boston is still searching for a superstar. You wouldn't be likely to draft or trade for a superstar with a pick outside the top 5.And people laughed when I said 35-40 wins. That pick is gonna be worthless.... :(
The Nets are 2-3, which equates to about 33 wins. Which is a top 10 pick last year. Given the depth of next years draft, how is that worthless?
boston is still searching for a superstar. You wouldn't be likely to draft or trade for a superstar with a pick outside the top 5.And people laughed when I said 35-40 wins. That pick is gonna be worthless.... :(
The Nets are 2-3, which equates to about 33 wins. Which is a top 10 pick last year. Given the depth of next years draft, how is that worthless?
boston is still searching for a superstar. You wouldn't be likely to draft or trade for a superstar with a pick outside the top 5.And people laughed when I said 35-40 wins. That pick is gonna be worthless.... :(
The Nets are 2-3, which equates to about 33 wins. Which is a top 10 pick last year. Given the depth of next years draft, how is that worthless?
I'm pretty sure the Knicks are worse than the Nets ... please persuade me otherwise.
I'm pretty sure the Knicks are worse than the Nets ... please persuade me otherwise.
I'm pretty sure the Knicks are worse than the Nets ... please persuade me otherwise.
Well Carmelo alone is better than anything the nets have. Porzingas, lee and Noah are all at least average NBA players. Even if you hate him Rose is better than Lin. I mean I'm not really sure how you could think this if you are serious. On top of all that, the Nets seem destined to trade their best player because he doesn't fit the scheme they play.
I know we keep saying that their hot shooting has to cool off eventually, and regression to the mean is a very powerful force, but they look pretty good out there.
Mike
Just read that Lin is out 2 weeks with a strained hamstring. Should be a good time for lots of Nets losses.
Just read that Lin is out 2 weeks with a strained hamstring. Should be a good time for lots of Nets losses.
That's unfortunate for him. But I'll take it.
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Jeremy Lin has a strained hamstring. The Nets say he will be reevaluated in two weeks. Rookie Isaiah Whitehead, who had five points, four assists and four rebounds in 20 minutes the other night, could see a big boost in playing time until Greivis Vasquez and Randy Foye return.
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Greivous Vasquez and Randy Foye. Heh Heh.
I'm pretty sure the Knicks are worse than the Nets ... please persuade me otherwise.I mean I'm not really sure how you could think this if you are serious.
Oh, but they are a superteam according to Derek Rose. ;DI'm pretty sure the Knicks are worse than the Nets ... please persuade me otherwise.I mean I'm not really sure how you could think this if you are serious.
Well, with Lin out I think the Nets are probably solidly worse.
With Lin, it seems to me the Nets have a more credible "premise" as a team. Lin + Lopez, a handful of serviceable NBA caliber wings in RHJ, Bogdan, and Kilpatrick, and a trio of serviceable skilled veteran big men in Booker, Scola, and Hamilton.
The Knicks have the worst point guard setup this side of Sacramento. Aside from Lee (an average at best wing at this point), Melo, and Porzingis -- who is being relied upon to do too much offensively -- I am not sure who from that team I would want on my roster. Noah is burnt toast.
I'm pretty sure the Knicks are worse than the Nets ... please persuade me otherwise.I mean I'm not really sure how you could think this if you are serious.
Well, with Lin out I think the Nets are probably solidly worse.
With Lin, it seems to me the Nets have a more credible "premise" as a team. Lin + Lopez, a handful of serviceable NBA caliber wings in RHJ, Bogdan, and Kilpatrick, and a trio of serviceable skilled veteran big men in Booker, Scola, and Hamilton.
The Knicks have the worst point guard setup this side of Sacramento. Aside from Lee (an average at best wing at this point), Melo, and Porzingis -- who is being relied upon to do too much offensively -- I am not sure who from that team I would want on my roster. Noah is burnt toast.
In other words, some people, both before and after their 0-9 start, kept persisting that the Nets would pick up steam and hit 35 wins. And they did pick up steam. Recall that they were one blown Brook Lopez layup away from defeating Golden State on their home turf. After they picked up a few wins, there was some panicking around here and knee-jerk reactions just like yours, calling the pick "worthless" and urging Danny to trade it away.
They beat Detroit last night (it became a close game in the 4th even after the Nets had led by 21 points in the 3rd quarter) because of an aberration of a 1st half, where they shot 9-13 from 3, with Lopez hitting 4 of 5, and 71% shooting overall. That's extremely unlikely to happen again.
I was bummed to hear that they beat Detroit. I doubt they continue to be a 0.400 team (33 wins). I feel like any pick in the top 5 is great considering the original trade, 6-10 OK, 11 or higher, disappointing (in no case worthless, diminishing yes but not worthless).
I have an idea to hedge our assets. Trade the 2018 Nets pick back to them and maybe another future first round pick (even the Memphis one that is looking better all the time) and/or one of our current stashes plus Amir for Lopez. Then they will likely be worse for the 2017 pick and can tank one more year and go for gold in 2018. I think that is a fair trade for them. They won't do better for Lopez than a sure fire early lottery pick. We still get a really good pick in 2017 (without Lopez they are even worse) and Lopez makes us better right away.
Win-Win in my book.
I actually think they will still be bad in 2018 but you never know. By cashing it in while helping the 2017 pick, we guarantee a certain level of value while giving up both some upside and some risk. We can then flip Lopez at some point (hoping he doesn't get injured) or see how good we are with our twin towers of Lopez and Horford (who I think would be decent together though not championship level).
In other words, some people, both before and after their 0-9 start, kept persisting that the Nets would pick up steam and hit 35 wins. And they did pick up steam. Recall that they were one blown Brook Lopez layup away from defeating Golden State on their home turf. After they picked up a few wins, there was some panicking around here and knee-jerk reactions just like yours, calling the pick "worthless" and urging Danny to trade it away.
They beat Detroit last night (it became a close game in the 4th even after the Nets had led by 21 points in the 3rd quarter) because of an aberration of a 1st half, where they shot 9-13 from 3, with Lopez hitting 4 of 5, and 71% shooting overall. That's extremely unlikely to happen again.
* I disagree with your first point. No matter how you package it, the Nets were hot garbage consistently and throughout the season. A couple of wins here and there doesn't negate that.
What was their longest win streak? 3 games?
Once Jarrett Jack went down, everyone and their brother knew the Nets were doomed.
* Your second point is way off the mark as well: The Nets were up big because Lin was in the game --once he left, that's when their offensive numbers started to slide.
They had 71 points in the first half, but only 38 in the second because Kilpatrick took over the pg role. I will concede though, that it's unlikely Lopez will continue shooting fifty percent from three, which is just retarded.
Now without Lin, this Nets team is toast in the long run. We'll see just how much time he misses, the longer the better, cuz in this motion offense that Kenny Atkinson likes to run, Lin is their best player. Btw, Sean Kilpatrick is a decent enough sparkplug off the bench, but he's the kind of guy the longer he's in the more he's 'exposed'. He can be an absolute bricklayer some nights.
Halftime. Charlotte shooting 37% from the field, 31% from 3 and 56% from the line. Only down by seven, which I guess is a good thing. Man, they look awful.
Mike
As for your 2nd argument, Lin was in the game against the Bulls too. They scored 88 points total. Lin played well, but so did the entire team. It had more to do with Lopez destroying Drummond (who played soft and without effort, probably why he didn't play much int he 2nd half) and everyone draining their 3's, going 9 for 13 in the first half from 3. They went 4 for 14 in the 2nd half.
I honestly think the Nets are going to exaccerbate and underlying anxiety disorder I dont think I have. It seems like its all nail biters.
Lin being out at least two weeks is a great sign. Hopefully this means they will be riddled with injuries like last year.
The Nets have quietly managed to put together a collection of talented prospects despite us stealing their own picks.this is pretty much the definition of polishing a turd
Rondae Hollis-Jefferson looks great so far.
Isaiah Whitehead is showing some great flashes of potential lately. They paid a record amount of money to get the pick they used on Whitehead.
Caris Levert will be ready to play soon and he was projected as a lottery pick before his injuries, he could end up being a steal for them.
Chris McCullough was also a projected lottery talent before his knee injury.
It also sounds like they will sign Archie Goodwin who showed some great flashes of potential in Phoenix before he requested a trade for lack of playing time and they released him.
I'm quite impressed with the job they've done since replacing Billy King.
The Nets have quietly managed to put together a collection of talented prospects despite us stealing their own picks.this is pretty much the definition of polishing a turd
Rondae Hollis-Jefferson looks great so far.
Isaiah Whitehead is showing some great flashes of potential lately. They paid a record amount of money to get the pick they used on Whitehead.
Caris Levert will be ready to play soon and he was projected as a lottery pick before his injuries, he could end up being a steal for them.
Chris McCullough was also a projected lottery talent before his knee injury.
It also sounds like they will sign Archie Goodwin who showed some great flashes of potential in Phoenix before he requested a trade for lack of playing time and they released him.
I'm quite impressed with the job they've done since replacing Billy King.
No disrespect, but imo, that just reflects your lack of knowledge of prospects and inability to appreciate what the Nets have done so quickly with limited resources. Their new GM is the polar opposite of Billy King so far.
In fact, most Celtics fans, it seems, are 100% absolutely convinced that the C's are getting the number one pick; really just mind-boggling.
I bet you cant even list 3 posters who said such a thing, let alone most of us ::)
The Nets have quietly managed to put together a collection of talented prospects despite us stealing their own picks.this is pretty much the definition of polishing a turd
Rondae Hollis-Jefferson looks great so far.
Isaiah Whitehead is showing some great flashes of potential lately. They paid a record amount of money to get the pick they used on Whitehead.
Caris Levert will be ready to play soon and he was projected as a lottery pick before his injuries, he could end up being a steal for them.
Chris McCullough was also a projected lottery talent before his knee injury.
It also sounds like they will sign Archie Goodwin who showed some great flashes of potential in Phoenix before he requested a trade for lack of playing time and they released him.
I'm quite impressed with the job they've done since replacing Billy King.
No disrespect, but imo, that just reflects your lack of knowledge of prospects and inability to appreciate what the Nets have done so quickly with limited resources. Their new GM is the polar opposite of Billy King so far.
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What's your point? I absolutely stand by that statement. People here ARE convinced that it will be a top pick. Giving zero credit to what Brooklyn is capable of with a healthy Lopez & Lin. Total hubris when it comes to those Brooklyn picks.
Just like I keep seeing posts saying we should trade Jaylen Brown. What a load of nonsense....
Top 10 worst team standings as of today:
1. Pelicans (0-7)
2. Sixers (0-6)
3. Mavs (1-5)
4. Wizards (1-5)
5. Suns (2-5)
6. Wolves (1-4)
7. Nets (2-4)
8. Heat (2-4)
9. Knicks (2-4)
10. Kings (3-5)
Top 10 worst team standings as of today:
1. Pelicans (0-7)
2. Sixers (0-6)
3. Mavs (1-5)
4. Wizards (1-5)
5. Suns (2-5)
6. Wolves (1-4)
7. Nets (2-4)
8. Heat (2-4)
9. Knicks (2-4)
10. Kings (3-5)
Nets are no longer on that list.
Trade the [dang] pick!
Top 10 worst team standings as of today:
1. Pelicans (0-7)
2. Sixers (0-6)
3. Mavs (1-5)
4. Wizards (1-5)
5. Suns (2-5)
6. Wolves (1-4)
7. Nets (2-4)
8. Heat (2-4)
9. Knicks (2-4)
10. Kings (3-5)
Nets are no longer on that list.
Trade the [dang] pick!
Wolves having a rough start. Brooklyn is Trumping expectations so far.
Wolves having a rough start. Brooklyn is Trumping expectations so far.
haha...hah.....ha.........
Isn't there some kind of unwritten rule that you wait 20 games before judging a team's performance?
Hard not to pay attention. This could be devastating for the Celtics
Never thought I would say this but I love the knicks. Up 98-72 with 6ish minutes left.
Never thought I would say this but I love the knicks. Up 98-72 with 6ish minutes left.
Whoa. Weren't the Nets up by double digits in the first half?
Never thought I would say this but I love the knicks. Up 98-72 with 6ish minutes left.
Whoa. Weren't the Nets up by double digits in the first half?
Never thought I would say this but I love the knicks. Up 98-72 with 6ish minutes left.
Whoa. Weren't the Nets up by double digits in the first half?
I believe the Nets were shooting 50% from three at that point; it was an illusion. That's going to happen a lot this year with the volume they shoot.
I betcha though when they play the Cs he goes off...that has been our season so far...other teams role players get career highs over us.Never thought I would say this but I love the knicks. Up 98-72 with 6ish minutes left.
Whoa. Weren't the Nets up by double digits in the first half?
I believe the Nets were shooting 50% from three at that point; it was an illusion. That's going to happen a lot this year with the volume they shoot.
By the way. Randy Foye is awful and should not be in the NBA at this point. He just comes in and shoots ill advised 3 pointers that miss.
I betcha though when they play the Cs he goes off...that has been our season so far...other teams role players get career highs over us.Never thought I would say this but I love the knicks. Up 98-72 with 6ish minutes left.
Whoa. Weren't the Nets up by double digits in the first half?
I believe the Nets were shooting 50% from three at that point; it was an illusion. That's going to happen a lot this year with the volume they shoot.
By the way. Randy Foye is awful and should not be in the NBA at this point. He just comes in and shoots ill advised 3 pointers that miss.
Looks like the Pelicans get Holiday back next game which is what our Nets pick desperately needs.The Mavs and Magic will also be competing for bottom 5. The TWolves will too if they don't start playing better defense.
Right now the only single team that is certainly worse than the Nets is the 76ers again.
Other than that, I am almost 100% certain they'll be bottom five.
The Wizards, Kings, Suns all have more talent and are trying to win games this year. The Heat are close to the Nets, but with Dragic, Johnson and Whiteside and Winslow I think they'll get a few more wins than the Nets.
Jrue Holiday averaged 17 points 7 assists and 5 rebounds last year for the Pelicans and he'll probably help an extra 8-12 wins for them on their current status. Losing Lance hurts them but Holiday coming back is a far greater gain. Getting Tyreke Evans back will be icing on the top.
We're really counting on a Brook Lopez injury or trade, aren't we?
Sean Mays / Kenny Atkinson doing good work so far, all things considered.
Wow the lakers won again. I really thought AD would pulverize them (which he did), but i guess he's not enough.
Wow the lakers won again. I really thought AD would pulverize them (which he did), but i guess he's not enough.
This lakers roster is actually winning games and looking decent. I didn't think that would happen this year. Maybe just a small sample size, but still.
We're really counting on a Brook Lopez injury or trade, aren't we?
Sean Mays / Kenny Atkinson doing good work so far, all things considered.
We are.
This is all Obama's fault.
Mike
Maybe not. They were only bottom 5 last year, because half their roster got ravaged by injuries. Starting to see the impact of having healthy RHJ and a mediocre supporting cast around Lopez.We're really counting on a Brook Lopez injury or trade, aren't we?
Sean Mays / Kenny Atkinson doing good work so far, all things considered.
We are.
This is all Obama's fault.
Mike
Theyll still be bottom 5 with Lopez healthy. If he goes down they'll challenge Philly fornworst record.
Pretty certain that argument got shot down when you made it last year. Last year RHJ was out for some time (a rookie) and they lost Jarrett Jack which probably did affect them. However that is just 2 players with serious injuries, not even half of their starting lineup. Seriously, we've suffered more this year than they did last year.Maybe not. They were only bottom 5 last year, because half their roster got ravaged by injuries. Starting to see the impact of having healthy RHJ and a mediocre supporting cast around Lopez.We're really counting on a Brook Lopez injury or trade, aren't we?
Sean Mays / Kenny Atkinson doing good work so far, all things considered.
We are.
This is all Obama's fault.
Mike
Theyll still be bottom 5 with Lopez healthy. If he goes down they'll challenge Philly fornworst record.
That argument gets shot down at least a couple times a week to this day.Pretty certain that argument got shot down when you made it last year. Last year RHJ was out for some time (a rookie) and they lost Jarrett Jack which probably did affect them. However that is just 2 players with serious injuries, not even half of their starting lineup. Seriously, we've suffered more this year than they did last year.Maybe not. They were only bottom 5 last year, because half their roster got ravaged by injuries. Starting to see the impact of having healthy RHJ and a mediocre supporting cast around Lopez.We're really counting on a Brook Lopez injury or trade, aren't we?
Sean Mays / Kenny Atkinson doing good work so far, all things considered.
We are.
This is all Obama's fault.
Mike
Theyll still be bottom 5 with Lopez healthy. If he goes down they'll challenge Philly fornworst record.
The Nets will still finish in the bottom 5 when it all shakes out. Even if they don't we should appreciate the fact that we are contending whilst getting a lottery pick
The nets winning percentage before and after the injuries was very similar. They were bad last year from start to finish.Pretty certain that argument got shot down when you made it last year. Last year RHJ was out for some time (a rookie) and they lost Jarrett Jack which probably did affect them. However that is just 2 players with serious injuries, not even half of their starting lineup. Seriously, we've suffered more this year than they did last year.Maybe not. They were only bottom 5 last year, because half their roster got ravaged by injuries. Starting to see the impact of having healthy RHJ and a mediocre supporting cast around Lopez.We're really counting on a Brook Lopez injury or trade, aren't we?
Sean Mays / Kenny Atkinson doing good work so far, all things considered.
We are.
This is all Obama's fault.
Mike
Theyll still be bottom 5 with Lopez healthy. If he goes down they'll challenge Philly fornworst record.
The Nets will still finish in the bottom 5 when it all shakes out. Even if they don't we should appreciate the fact that we are contending whilst getting a lottery pick
I can't believe some people are panicking that the Nets won a few games (4!). Even with their torrid pace they are exactly"2" games ahead of the 3rd worse record in the league. Their schedule for the next 6 games (@Lakers; @Clippers, @OKC; vs Portland, vs. C's; @Indiana) is not all that promising for their continued dominance over the league, as only 1 team has a worse record by 1/2 game (Indiana). I see a back to reality moment for the Nets over the next two weeks.They have like a quarter of the wins that they had last season, all within the first 1/8 of the season.
Maybe not. They were only bottom 5 last year, because half their roster got ravaged by injuries. Starting to see the impact of having healthy RHJ and a mediocre supporting cast around Lopez.We're really counting on a Brook Lopez injury or trade, aren't we?
Sean Mays / Kenny Atkinson doing good work so far, all things considered.
We are.
This is all Obama's fault.
Mike
Theyll still be bottom 5 with Lopez healthy. If he goes down they'll challenge Philly fornworst record.
I can't believe some people are panicking that the Nets won a few games (4!). Even with their torrid pace they are exactly"2" games ahead of the 3rd worse record in the league. Their schedule for the next 6 games (@Lakers; @Clippers, @OKC; vs Portland, vs. C's; @Indiana) is not all that promising for their continued dominance over the league, as only 1 team has a worse record by 1/2 game (Indiana). I see a back to reality moment for the Nets over the next two weeks.They have like a quarter of the wins that they had last season, all within the first 1/8 of the season.
Maybe not. They were only bottom 5 last year, because half their roster got ravaged by injuries. Starting to see the impact of having healthy RHJ and a mediocre supporting cast around Lopez.We're really counting on a Brook Lopez injury or trade, aren't we?
Sean Mays / Kenny Atkinson doing good work so far, all things considered.
We are.
This is all Obama's fault.
Mike
Theyll still be bottom 5 with Lopez healthy. If he goes down they'll challenge Philly fornworst record.
Ravaged?
They lost a rookie who had little impact on the W/L column and Jarret Jack about half way through the season. Injuries had absolutely nothing to do with their result, the fact that they had one of the worst rosters and benches in the NBA was why they sucked lol.
You sound like one of those climate change deniers who just won't relent.
You're talking about a team that made the playoffs two straight years and lost some depth that was then exposed when they saw their star rookie limited to 29 games, saw their starting PG limited to 32 games, saw their former star guard limited to 57 games. It was a perfect storm of disaster for Brooklyn and we benefited by landing a decent Tier-3 prospect with some theoretical potential out of it. Here's hoping they end up ravaged by injuries again this year. If the season ended today, the pick would be #14 right now. It's concerning... especially when Linsanity returns from injury. I'm worried that celticsclay might need to retroactively change the topic of his "The most talked about inconsequential trade?" thread to be about the highly regarded KG/Pierce to Brooklyn deal. If all we get out of it is James YOung, a rookie averaging 7 points, and some mid-to-late first round draft picks, it'll be a big disappointment... especially if you subscribe to the idea that Boston was still a contender when KG and Pierce were moved, which I do not.Maybe not. They were only bottom 5 last year, because half their roster got ravaged by injuries. Starting to see the impact of having healthy RHJ and a mediocre supporting cast around Lopez.We're really counting on a Brook Lopez injury or trade, aren't we?
Sean Mays / Kenny Atkinson doing good work so far, all things considered.
We are.
This is all Obama's fault.
Mike
Theyll still be bottom 5 with Lopez healthy. If he goes down they'll challenge Philly fornworst record.
Ravaged?
They lost a rookie who had little impact on the W/L column and Jarret Jack about half way through the season. Injuries had absolutely nothing to do with their result, the fact that they had one of the worst rosters and benches in the NBA was why they sucked lol.
You sound like one of those climate change deniers who just won't relent.
The Kings also do not have a winning record. The Nets look more competitive this year and there seem to be more bad teams this year (Lakers 8th in the West). Three of the Nets losses are 5 points or less. They are also shooting 16 more 3s per game and scoring 8 more PPG while their defense is basically the same. Going into the season, it looked like the Nets were a lock for bottom 3 team. Now it appears they are more like a 5th to 10th worst team.I can't believe some people are panicking that the Nets won a few games (4!). Even with their torrid pace they are exactly"2" games ahead of the 3rd worse record in the league. Their schedule for the next 6 games (@Lakers; @Clippers, @OKC; vs Portland, vs. C's; @Indiana) is not all that promising for their continued dominance over the league, as only 1 team has a worse record by 1/2 game (Indiana). I see a back to reality moment for the Nets over the next two weeks.They have like a quarter of the wins that they had last season, all within the first 1/8 of the season.
*shrug*
At one point they won 4 out of 5 last season which is far better than 4 out of 9. They still finished with 21 wins. The 4 best teams in the East right now are Cleveland, Charlotte, Atlanta and Toronto. The 4 best teams in the West right now are the Clips, Warriors, Spurs and Trail Blazers. They've faced exactly one of those teams during this time. No one they've beaten has a winning
record right now.
So they're sub-.500 against a weak schedule. Big Deal. Here's the rest of the schedule for the month:
@LAC
@LAL
@OKC
POR
BOS
@IND
SAC
LAC
Every team besides Indy has a winning record. If they go 3-5, then worry. But that looks to me like (at best) a 2-6 or perhaps even 0-8 (and if they do that, they have the same record as they did at this time last year!).
Brooklyn looks like a bad team. Things even out. Relax.
You're talking about a team that made the playoffs two straight years and lost some depth that was then exposed when they saw their star rookie limited to 29 games, saw their starting PG limited to 32 games, saw their former star guard limited to 57 games. It was a perfect storm of disaster for Brooklyn and we benefited by landing a decent Tier-3 prospect with some theoretical potential out of it. Here's hoping they end up ravaged by injuries again this year. If the season ended today, the pick would be #14 right now. It's concerning... especially when Linsanity returns from injury. I'm worried that celticsclay might need to retroactively change the topic of his "The most talked about inconsequential trade?" thread to be about the highly regarded KG/Pierce to Brooklyn deal. If all we get out of it is James YOung, a rookie averaging 7 points, and some mid-to-late first round draft picks, it'll be a big disappointment... especially if you subscribe to the idea that Boston was still a contender when KG and Pierce were moved, which I do not.Maybe not. They were only bottom 5 last year, because half their roster got ravaged by injuries. Starting to see the impact of having healthy RHJ and a mediocre supporting cast around Lopez.We're really counting on a Brook Lopez injury or trade, aren't we?
Sean Mays / Kenny Atkinson doing good work so far, all things considered.
We are.
This is all Obama's fault.
Mike
Theyll still be bottom 5 with Lopez healthy. If he goes down they'll challenge Philly fornworst record.
Ravaged?
They lost a rookie who had little impact on the W/L column and Jarret Jack about half way through the season. Injuries had absolutely nothing to do with their result, the fact that they had one of the worst rosters and benches in the NBA was why they sucked lol.
You sound like one of those climate change deniers who just won't relent.
i realize I might be ruining it by even mentioning it, but I think lar is going for the jinx (or reverse jinx)You're talking about a team that made the playoffs two straight years and lost some depth that was then exposed when they saw their star rookie limited to 29 games, saw their starting PG limited to 32 games, saw their former star guard limited to 57 games. It was a perfect storm of disaster for Brooklyn and we benefited by landing a decent Tier-3 prospect with some theoretical potential out of it. Here's hoping they end up ravaged by injuries again this year. If the season ended today, the pick would be #14 right now. It's concerning... especially when Linsanity returns from injury. I'm worried that celticsclay might need to retroactively change the topic of his "The most talked about inconsequential trade?" thread to be about the highly regarded KG/Pierce to Brooklyn deal. If all we get out of it is James YOung, a rookie averaging 7 points, and some mid-to-late first round draft picks, it'll be a big disappointment... especially if you subscribe to the idea that Boston was still a contender when KG and Pierce were moved, which I do not.Maybe not. They were only bottom 5 last year, because half their roster got ravaged by injuries. Starting to see the impact of having healthy RHJ and a mediocre supporting cast around Lopez.We're really counting on a Brook Lopez injury or trade, aren't we?
Sean Mays / Kenny Atkinson doing good work so far, all things considered.
We are.
This is all Obama's fault.
Mike
Theyll still be bottom 5 with Lopez healthy. If he goes down they'll challenge Philly fornworst record.
Ravaged?
They lost a rookie who had little impact on the W/L column and Jarret Jack about half way through the season. Injuries had absolutely nothing to do with their result, the fact that they had one of the worst rosters and benches in the NBA was why they sucked lol.
You sound like one of those climate change deniers who just won't relent.
Wait. So RHJ was a "star rookie" averaging 5.8 points, but Brown is "only" averaging 7 points. You really walked into that one... LOL
You're talking about a team that made the playoffs two straight years and lost some depth that was then exposed when they saw their star rookie limited to 29 games, saw their starting PG limited to 32 games, saw their former star guard limited to 57 games. It was a perfect storm of disaster for Brooklyn and we benefited by landing a decent Tier-3 prospect with some theoretical potential out of it. Here's hoping they end up ravaged by injuries again this year. If the season ended today, the pick would be #14 right now. It's concerning... especially when Linsanity returns from injury. I'm worried that celticsclay might need to retroactively change the topic of his "The most talked about inconsequential trade?" thread to be about the highly regarded KG/Pierce to Brooklyn deal. If all we get out of it is James YOung, a rookie averaging 7 points, and some mid-to-late first round draft picks, it'll be a big disappointment... especially if you subscribe to the idea that Boston was still a contender when KG and Pierce were moved, which I do not.
RHJ had the best Defensive Rating on the entire team and was right behind Lopez in offensive rating. His absence was sorely missed. Jaylen Brown is bottom 5 on our team in defensive rating and bottom 4 in offensive rating.You're talking about a team that made the playoffs two straight years and lost some depth that was then exposed when they saw their star rookie limited to 29 games, saw their starting PG limited to 32 games, saw their former star guard limited to 57 games. It was a perfect storm of disaster for Brooklyn and we benefited by landing a decent Tier-3 prospect with some theoretical potential out of it. Here's hoping they end up ravaged by injuries again this year. If the season ended today, the pick would be #14 right now. It's concerning... especially when Linsanity returns from injury. I'm worried that celticsclay might need to retroactively change the topic of his "The most talked about inconsequential trade?" thread to be about the highly regarded KG/Pierce to Brooklyn deal. If all we get out of it is James YOung, a rookie averaging 7 points, and some mid-to-late first round draft picks, it'll be a big disappointment... especially if you subscribe to the idea that Boston was still a contender when KG and Pierce were moved, which I do not.Maybe not. They were only bottom 5 last year, because half their roster got ravaged by injuries. Starting to see the impact of having healthy RHJ and a mediocre supporting cast around Lopez.We're really counting on a Brook Lopez injury or trade, aren't we?
Sean Mays / Kenny Atkinson doing good work so far, all things considered.
We are.
This is all Obama's fault.
Mike
Theyll still be bottom 5 with Lopez healthy. If he goes down they'll challenge Philly fornworst record.
Ravaged?
They lost a rookie who had little impact on the W/L column and Jarret Jack about half way through the season. Injuries had absolutely nothing to do with their result, the fact that they had one of the worst rosters and benches in the NBA was why they sucked lol.
You sound like one of those climate change deniers who just won't relent.
Wait. So RHJ was a "star rookie" averaging 5.8 points, but Brown is "only" averaging 7 points. You really walked into that one... LOL
RHJ had the best Defensive Rating on the entire team and was right behind Lopez in offensive rating. His absence was sorely missed. Jaylen Brown is bottom 5 on our team in defensive rating and bottom 4 in offensive rating.You're talking about a team that made the playoffs two straight years and lost some depth that was then exposed when they saw their star rookie limited to 29 games, saw their starting PG limited to 32 games, saw their former star guard limited to 57 games. It was a perfect storm of disaster for Brooklyn and we benefited by landing a decent Tier-3 prospect with some theoretical potential out of it. Here's hoping they end up ravaged by injuries again this year. If the season ended today, the pick would be #14 right now. It's concerning... especially when Linsanity returns from injury. I'm worried that celticsclay might need to retroactively change the topic of his "The most talked about inconsequential trade?" thread to be about the highly regarded KG/Pierce to Brooklyn deal. If all we get out of it is James YOung, a rookie averaging 7 points, and some mid-to-late first round draft picks, it'll be a big disappointment... especially if you subscribe to the idea that Boston was still a contender when KG and Pierce were moved, which I do not.Maybe not. They were only bottom 5 last year, because half their roster got ravaged by injuries. Starting to see the impact of having healthy RHJ and a mediocre supporting cast around Lopez.We're really counting on a Brook Lopez injury or trade, aren't we?
Sean Mays / Kenny Atkinson doing good work so far, all things considered.
We are.
This is all Obama's fault.
Mike
Theyll still be bottom 5 with Lopez healthy. If he goes down they'll challenge Philly fornworst record.
Ravaged?
They lost a rookie who had little impact on the W/L column and Jarret Jack about half way through the season. Injuries had absolutely nothing to do with their result, the fact that they had one of the worst rosters and benches in the NBA was why they sucked lol.
You sound like one of those climate change deniers who just won't relent.
Wait. So RHJ was a "star rookie" averaging 5.8 points, but Brown is "only" averaging 7 points. You really walked into that one... LOL
You can see Jefferson's impact in games like Saturday night when he had 20 points, 13 rebounds, 4 assists, 1 block and 1 steal in a win.
If Brooklyn keeps this type of play up, we'll struggle to have enough assets to trade for a star.
RHJ had the best Defensive Rating on the entire team and was right behind Lopez in offensive rating. His absence was sorely missed. Jaylen Brown is bottom 5 on our team in defensive rating and bottom 4 in offensive rating.You're talking about a team that made the playoffs two straight years and lost some depth that was then exposed when they saw their star rookie limited to 29 games, saw their starting PG limited to 32 games, saw their former star guard limited to 57 games. It was a perfect storm of disaster for Brooklyn and we benefited by landing a decent Tier-3 prospect with some theoretical potential out of it. Here's hoping they end up ravaged by injuries again this year. If the season ended today, the pick would be #14 right now. It's concerning... especially when Linsanity returns from injury. I'm worried that celticsclay might need to retroactively change the topic of his "The most talked about inconsequential trade?" thread to be about the highly regarded KG/Pierce to Brooklyn deal. If all we get out of it is James YOung, a rookie averaging 7 points, and some mid-to-late first round draft picks, it'll be a big disappointment... especially if you subscribe to the idea that Boston was still a contender when KG and Pierce were moved, which I do not.Maybe not. They were only bottom 5 last year, because half their roster got ravaged by injuries. Starting to see the impact of having healthy RHJ and a mediocre supporting cast around Lopez.We're really counting on a Brook Lopez injury or trade, aren't we?
Sean Mays / Kenny Atkinson doing good work so far, all things considered.
We are.
This is all Obama's fault.
Mike
Theyll still be bottom 5 with Lopez healthy. If he goes down they'll challenge Philly fornworst record.
Ravaged?
They lost a rookie who had little impact on the W/L column and Jarret Jack about half way through the season. Injuries had absolutely nothing to do with their result, the fact that they had one of the worst rosters and benches in the NBA was why they sucked lol.
You sound like one of those climate change deniers who just won't relent.
Wait. So RHJ was a "star rookie" averaging 5.8 points, but Brown is "only" averaging 7 points. You really walked into that one... LOL
You can see Jefferson's impact in games like Saturday night when he had 20 points, 13 rebounds, 4 assists, 1 block and 1 steal in a win.
If Brooklyn keeps this type of play up, we'll struggle to have enough assets to trade for a star.
RHJ had the best Defensive Rating on the entire team and was right behind Lopez in offensive rating. His absence was sorely missed. Jaylen Brown is bottom 5 on our team in defensive rating and bottom 4 in offensive rating.You're talking about a team that made the playoffs two straight years and lost some depth that was then exposed when they saw their star rookie limited to 29 games, saw their starting PG limited to 32 games, saw their former star guard limited to 57 games. It was a perfect storm of disaster for Brooklyn and we benefited by landing a decent Tier-3 prospect with some theoretical potential out of it. Here's hoping they end up ravaged by injuries again this year. If the season ended today, the pick would be #14 right now. It's concerning... especially when Linsanity returns from injury. I'm worried that celticsclay might need to retroactively change the topic of his "The most talked about inconsequential trade?" thread to be about the highly regarded KG/Pierce to Brooklyn deal. If all we get out of it is James YOung, a rookie averaging 7 points, and some mid-to-late first round draft picks, it'll be a big disappointment... especially if you subscribe to the idea that Boston was still a contender when KG and Pierce were moved, which I do not.Maybe not. They were only bottom 5 last year, because half their roster got ravaged by injuries. Starting to see the impact of having healthy RHJ and a mediocre supporting cast around Lopez.We're really counting on a Brook Lopez injury or trade, aren't we?
Sean Mays / Kenny Atkinson doing good work so far, all things considered.
We are.
This is all Obama's fault.
Mike
Theyll still be bottom 5 with Lopez healthy. If he goes down they'll challenge Philly fornworst record.
Ravaged?
They lost a rookie who had little impact on the W/L column and Jarret Jack about half way through the season. Injuries had absolutely nothing to do with their result, the fact that they had one of the worst rosters and benches in the NBA was why they sucked lol.
You sound like one of those climate change deniers who just won't relent.
Wait. So RHJ was a "star rookie" averaging 5.8 points, but Brown is "only" averaging 7 points. You really walked into that one... LOL
You can see Jefferson's impact in games like Saturday night when he had 20 points, 13 rebounds, 4 assists, 1 block and 1 steal in a win.
If Brooklyn keeps this type of play up, we'll struggle to have enough assets to trade for a star.
They still had their 3 best players for the entire season. They had their 6th man, Bogdanovic, for the entire season. They lost a rookie averaging 5 points with some defense, and their 32 year old scrub of a starting PG in Jarrett Jack.
Jarrett Jack was the worst starting point guard in the NBA last season. 26% from 3pt, 4.7 assists, and a +/- of -4.6 for the season. He was absolute trash and was one of the main reasons they were so poor.
They were simply not constructed to win many games. They had the 27th offensive rating and the 29th defensive rating.
Their bench included Andrea Bargani and Thomas Robinson and they literally had a 15 man rotation. In fact 13 of their players averaged over 15 minutes a game, and 10 of their players averaged 20 minutes a game.
You repeatedly stick to the 'decimated by injuries' argument, when we were all saying they weren't deep enough to withstand any injuries and it was why they would suck.
Again, Brook Lopez was healthy. Joe Johnson was healthy. Thadeus Young was healthy.
Shane Larkin took fewer shots, had better percentages, and had the same assist totals as Jack.
You must be trolling at this point.
Timing is everything. We tried trading the 2016 Brooklyn pick for Okafor at the trade deadline and reportedly came very close, but Philly backed out. Flash forward a few months, the pick falls outside the top 2, Boston passes on the popular Kris Dunn to take a multi-year project, and Okafor is looking better every game. Did we blow it by not sweetening the offer back in February? Maybe. Likewise, did we have some offers on the table this SUmmer for the 2017 or 2018 Brooklyn picks that we turned down? Are we going to regret it as Brooklyn threatens for a Playoffs spot? I sure hope not. Teams love the idea at landing an unprotected pick that has a chance to land at the top of a good draft. It gets hairy when the pick falls outside the money zone. The money zone was 2 picks deep last season. I hope the money zone is deeper this draft. For what it's worth, I saw on this Forum that Lonzo Ball is "the real deal" and draftexpress has him going #14 where the Brooklyn pick would fall if the season ended today. If the money zone is actually that deep, that's encouraging. Also, there's still a chance that Brooklyn gets ravaged by injuries again. I'm don't like to wish for NBA players to get injured, but I really hope something happens. Maybe they'll cash in on Lopez for draft picks and the team will plummet. Crossing my fingers. I hope my fears about the Nets are baseless. I've learned to take nothing for granted in the year 2016, though.RHJ had the best Defensive Rating on the entire team and was right behind Lopez in offensive rating. His absence was sorely missed. Jaylen Brown is bottom 5 on our team in defensive rating and bottom 4 in offensive rating.You're talking about a team that made the playoffs two straight years and lost some depth that was then exposed when they saw their star rookie limited to 29 games, saw their starting PG limited to 32 games, saw their former star guard limited to 57 games. It was a perfect storm of disaster for Brooklyn and we benefited by landing a decent Tier-3 prospect with some theoretical potential out of it. Here's hoping they end up ravaged by injuries again this year. If the season ended today, the pick would be #14 right now. It's concerning... especially when Linsanity returns from injury. I'm worried that celticsclay might need to retroactively change the topic of his "The most talked about inconsequential trade?" thread to be about the highly regarded KG/Pierce to Brooklyn deal. If all we get out of it is James YOung, a rookie averaging 7 points, and some mid-to-late first round draft picks, it'll be a big disappointment... especially if you subscribe to the idea that Boston was still a contender when KG and Pierce were moved, which I do not.Maybe not. They were only bottom 5 last year, because half their roster got ravaged by injuries. Starting to see the impact of having healthy RHJ and a mediocre supporting cast around Lopez.We're really counting on a Brook Lopez injury or trade, aren't we?
Sean Mays / Kenny Atkinson doing good work so far, all things considered.
We are.
This is all Obama's fault.
Mike
Theyll still be bottom 5 with Lopez healthy. If he goes down they'll challenge Philly fornworst record.
Ravaged?
They lost a rookie who had little impact on the W/L column and Jarret Jack about half way through the season. Injuries had absolutely nothing to do with their result, the fact that they had one of the worst rosters and benches in the NBA was why they sucked lol.
You sound like one of those climate change deniers who just won't relent.
Wait. So RHJ was a "star rookie" averaging 5.8 points, but Brown is "only" averaging 7 points. You really walked into that one... LOL
You can see Jefferson's impact in games like Saturday night when he had 20 points, 13 rebounds, 4 assists, 1 block and 1 steal in a win.
If Brooklyn keeps this type of play up, we'll struggle to have enough assets to trade for a star.
I feel like everyone is ignoring this point. Sure Brooklyn may not make the playoffs and the pick ends up at the 8-12 range. Nobody wants that pick. We've had it before and traded it for freaking Telfair.
It's a sad year thus far. At least Smart is playing well, aka french fries. He looks like he's been eating french fries, that's for sure.
Lopez is apparently being sat out tonight against the Clippers. Makes sense resting him in a game that they have little chance to win. They sat him against the Bucks and ended up losing by two. So this looks like a pattern to manage his minutes. If he's going to miss 2 games out of 10 throughout the season that should be a nice boost for our Nets pick.Great news.
RHJ had the best Defensive Rating on the entire team and was right behind Lopez in offensive rating. His absence was sorely missed. Jaylen Brown is bottom 5 on our team in defensive rating and bottom 4 in offensive rating.You're talking about a team that made the playoffs two straight years and lost some depth that was then exposed when they saw their star rookie limited to 29 games, saw their starting PG limited to 32 games, saw their former star guard limited to 57 games. It was a perfect storm of disaster for Brooklyn and we benefited by landing a decent Tier-3 prospect with some theoretical potential out of it. Here's hoping they end up ravaged by injuries again this year. If the season ended today, the pick would be #14 right now. It's concerning... especially when Linsanity returns from injury. I'm worried that celticsclay might need to retroactively change the topic of his "The most talked about inconsequential trade?" thread to be about the highly regarded KG/Pierce to Brooklyn deal. If all we get out of it is James YOung, a rookie averaging 7 points, and some mid-to-late first round draft picks, it'll be a big disappointment... especially if you subscribe to the idea that Boston was still a contender when KG and Pierce were moved, which I do not.Maybe not. They were only bottom 5 last year, because half their roster got ravaged by injuries. Starting to see the impact of having healthy RHJ and a mediocre supporting cast around Lopez.We're really counting on a Brook Lopez injury or trade, aren't we?
Sean Mays / Kenny Atkinson doing good work so far, all things considered.
We are.
This is all Obama's fault.
Mike
Theyll still be bottom 5 with Lopez healthy. If he goes down they'll challenge Philly fornworst record.
Ravaged?
They lost a rookie who had little impact on the W/L column and Jarret Jack about half way through the season. Injuries had absolutely nothing to do with their result, the fact that they had one of the worst rosters and benches in the NBA was why they sucked lol.
You sound like one of those climate change deniers who just won't relent.
Wait. So RHJ was a "star rookie" averaging 5.8 points, but Brown is "only" averaging 7 points. You really walked into that one... LOL
You can see Jefferson's impact in games like Saturday night when he had 20 points, 13 rebounds, 4 assists, 1 block and 1 steal in a win.
If Brooklyn keeps this type of play up, we'll struggle to have enough assets to trade for a star.
They still had their 3 best players for the entire season. They had their 6th man, Bogdanovic, for the entire season. They lost a rookie averaging 5 points with some defense, and their 32 year old scrub of a starting PG in Jarrett Jack.
Jarrett Jack was the worst starting point guard in the NBA last season. 26% from 3pt, 4.7 assists, and a +/- of -4.6 for the season. He was absolute trash and was one of the main reasons they were so poor.
They were simply not constructed to win many games. They had the 27th offensive rating and the 29th defensive rating.
Their bench included Andrea Bargani and Thomas Robinson and they literally had a 15 man rotation. In fact 13 of their players averaged over 15 minutes a game, and 10 of their players averaged 20 minutes a game.
You repeatedly stick to the 'decimated by injuries' argument, when we were all saying they weren't deep enough to withstand any injuries and it was why they would suck.
Again, Brook Lopez was healthy. Joe Johnson was healthy. Thadeus Young was healthy.
Shane Larkin took fewer shots, had better percentages, and had the same assist totals as Jack.
You must be trolling at this point.
Clippers up 39-14 after 1.Finally a night we can just relax and chalk up the L. They've been pi$$ing me off with their scrappy play.
Looks like the Nets and Celts won't be tied in the standings after tonight.
people that are being serious realize the nets had unbelievably good health last year. Don't let some jokes from lb make you feel otherwise. I wish they had actually been ravaged. We would have got Ben Simmons!RHJ had the best Defensive Rating on the entire team and was right behind Lopez in offensive rating. His absence was sorely missed. Jaylen Brown is bottom 5 on our team in defensive rating and bottom 4 in offensive rating.You're talking about a team that made the playoffs two straight years and lost some depth that was then exposed when they saw their star rookie limited to 29 games, saw their starting PG limited to 32 games, saw their former star guard limited to 57 games. It was a perfect storm of disaster for Brooklyn and we benefited by landing a decent Tier-3 prospect with some theoretical potential out of it. Here's hoping they end up ravaged by injuries again this year. If the season ended today, the pick would be #14 right now. It's concerning... especially when Linsanity returns from injury. I'm worried that celticsclay might need to retroactively change the topic of his "The most talked about inconsequential trade?" thread to be about the highly regarded KG/Pierce to Brooklyn deal. If all we get out of it is James YOung, a rookie averaging 7 points, and some mid-to-late first round draft picks, it'll be a big disappointment... especially if you subscribe to the idea that Boston was still a contender when KG and Pierce were moved, which I do not.Maybe not. They were only bottom 5 last year, because half their roster got ravaged by injuries. Starting to see the impact of having healthy RHJ and a mediocre supporting cast around Lopez.We're really counting on a Brook Lopez injury or trade, aren't we?
Sean Mays / Kenny Atkinson doing good work so far, all things considered.
We are.
This is all Obama's fault.
Mike
Theyll still be bottom 5 with Lopez healthy. If he goes down they'll challenge Philly fornworst record.
Ravaged?
They lost a rookie who had little impact on the W/L column and Jarret Jack about half way through the season. Injuries had absolutely nothing to do with their result, the fact that they had one of the worst rosters and benches in the NBA was why they sucked lol.
You sound like one of those climate change deniers who just won't relent.
Wait. So RHJ was a "star rookie" averaging 5.8 points, but Brown is "only" averaging 7 points. You really walked into that one... LOL
You can see Jefferson's impact in games like Saturday night when he had 20 points, 13 rebounds, 4 assists, 1 block and 1 steal in a win.
If Brooklyn keeps this type of play up, we'll struggle to have enough assets to trade for a star.
They still had their 3 best players for the entire season. They had their 6th man, Bogdanovic, for the entire season. They lost a rookie averaging 5 points with some defense, and their 32 year old scrub of a starting PG in Jarrett Jack.
Jarrett Jack was the worst starting point guard in the NBA last season. 26% from 3pt, 4.7 assists, and a +/- of -4.6 for the season. He was absolute trash and was one of the main reasons they were so poor.
They were simply not constructed to win many games. They had the 27th offensive rating and the 29th defensive rating.
Their bench included Andrea Bargani and Thomas Robinson and they literally had a 15 man rotation. In fact 13 of their players averaged over 15 minutes a game, and 10 of their players averaged 20 minutes a game.
You repeatedly stick to the 'decimated by injuries' argument, when we were all saying they weren't deep enough to withstand any injuries and it was why they would suck.
Again, Brook Lopez was healthy. Joe Johnson was healthy. Thadeus Young was healthy.
Shane Larkin took fewer shots, had better percentages, and had the same assist totals as Jack.
You must be trolling at this point.
This has already been argued to death. The fact is they won only 21 games, and at no point last season were the Nets - healthy or not - on pace to win 35 games. Argument over.
What is slightly concerning this season is the Nets actually have played some really good ball in the games that they won, whereas last season they basically looked like trash the entire way. Atkinson is getting the most out of that team for sure. Still, there's 73 games left in the season and their schedule gets tougher. A lot can change across the league. Teams are still finding themselves. I think that the Nets will finish in the bottom 5, especially if they're going to sit Lopez out a bunch of games.
Last season Brooklyn lost RHJ, Jack, Dwill, Johnson, and Lopez/Youngpeople that are being serious realize the nets had unbelievably good health last year. Don't let some jokes from lb make you feel otherwise. I wish they had actually been ravaged. We would have got Ben Simmons!RHJ had the best Defensive Rating on the entire team and was right behind Lopez in offensive rating. His absence was sorely missed. Jaylen Brown is bottom 5 on our team in defensive rating and bottom 4 in offensive rating.You're talking about a team that made the playoffs two straight years and lost some depth that was then exposed when they saw their star rookie limited to 29 games, saw their starting PG limited to 32 games, saw their former star guard limited to 57 games. It was a perfect storm of disaster for Brooklyn and we benefited by landing a decent Tier-3 prospect with some theoretical potential out of it. Here's hoping they end up ravaged by injuries again this year. If the season ended today, the pick would be #14 right now. It's concerning... especially when Linsanity returns from injury. I'm worried that celticsclay might need to retroactively change the topic of his "The most talked about inconsequential trade?" thread to be about the highly regarded KG/Pierce to Brooklyn deal. If all we get out of it is James YOung, a rookie averaging 7 points, and some mid-to-late first round draft picks, it'll be a big disappointment... especially if you subscribe to the idea that Boston was still a contender when KG and Pierce were moved, which I do not.Maybe not. They were only bottom 5 last year, because half their roster got ravaged by injuries. Starting to see the impact of having healthy RHJ and a mediocre supporting cast around Lopez.We're really counting on a Brook Lopez injury or trade, aren't we?
Sean Mays / Kenny Atkinson doing good work so far, all things considered.
We are.
This is all Obama's fault.
Mike
Theyll still be bottom 5 with Lopez healthy. If he goes down they'll challenge Philly fornworst record.
Ravaged?
They lost a rookie who had little impact on the W/L column and Jarret Jack about half way through the season. Injuries had absolutely nothing to do with their result, the fact that they had one of the worst rosters and benches in the NBA was why they sucked lol.
You sound like one of those climate change deniers who just won't relent.
Wait. So RHJ was a "star rookie" averaging 5.8 points, but Brown is "only" averaging 7 points. You really walked into that one... LOL
You can see Jefferson's impact in games like Saturday night when he had 20 points, 13 rebounds, 4 assists, 1 block and 1 steal in a win.
If Brooklyn keeps this type of play up, we'll struggle to have enough assets to trade for a star.
They still had their 3 best players for the entire season. They had their 6th man, Bogdanovic, for the entire season. They lost a rookie averaging 5 points with some defense, and their 32 year old scrub of a starting PG in Jarrett Jack.
Jarrett Jack was the worst starting point guard in the NBA last season. 26% from 3pt, 4.7 assists, and a +/- of -4.6 for the season. He was absolute trash and was one of the main reasons they were so poor.
They were simply not constructed to win many games. They had the 27th offensive rating and the 29th defensive rating.
Their bench included Andrea Bargani and Thomas Robinson and they literally had a 15 man rotation. In fact 13 of their players averaged over 15 minutes a game, and 10 of their players averaged 20 minutes a game.
You repeatedly stick to the 'decimated by injuries' argument, when we were all saying they weren't deep enough to withstand any injuries and it was why they would suck.
Again, Brook Lopez was healthy. Joe Johnson was healthy. Thadeus Young was healthy.
Shane Larkin took fewer shots, had better percentages, and had the same assist totals as Jack.
You must be trolling at this point.
This has already been argued to death. The fact is they won only 21 games, and at no point last season were the Nets - healthy or not - on pace to win 35 games. Argument over.
What is slightly concerning this season is the Nets actually have played some really good ball in the games that they won, whereas last season they basically looked like trash the entire way. Atkinson is getting the most out of that team for sure. Still, there's 73 games left in the season and their schedule gets tougher. A lot can change across the league. Teams are still finding themselves. I think that the Nets will finish in the bottom 5, especially if they're going to sit Lopez out a bunch of games.
umm. Do you actually follow the nets? Not trying to be a jerk but being a fairy invested Celtics fan it is hard to believe you would t realize deron Williams was cut before the season. Also Johnson was not injured he was waived and had good health when he was on the nets. Lopez and young were healthy the entire season and were rested at the very end (Lopez will rest even more this year). So yeah... pretty far off on that post.Last season Brooklyn lost RHJ, Jack, Dwill, Johnson, and Lopez/Youngpeople that are being serious realize the nets had unbelievably good health last year. Don't let some jokes from lb make you feel otherwise. I wish they had actually been ravaged. We would have got Ben Simmons!RHJ had the best Defensive Rating on the entire team and was right behind Lopez in offensive rating. His absence was sorely missed. Jaylen Brown is bottom 5 on our team in defensive rating and bottom 4 in offensive rating.You're talking about a team that made the playoffs two straight years and lost some depth that was then exposed when they saw their star rookie limited to 29 games, saw their starting PG limited to 32 games, saw their former star guard limited to 57 games. It was a perfect storm of disaster for Brooklyn and we benefited by landing a decent Tier-3 prospect with some theoretical potential out of it. Here's hoping they end up ravaged by injuries again this year. If the season ended today, the pick would be #14 right now. It's concerning... especially when Linsanity returns from injury. I'm worried that celticsclay might need to retroactively change the topic of his "The most talked about inconsequential trade?" thread to be about the highly regarded KG/Pierce to Brooklyn deal. If all we get out of it is James YOung, a rookie averaging 7 points, and some mid-to-late first round draft picks, it'll be a big disappointment... especially if you subscribe to the idea that Boston was still a contender when KG and Pierce were moved, which I do not.Maybe not. They were only bottom 5 last year, because half their roster got ravaged by injuries. Starting to see the impact of having healthy RHJ and a mediocre supporting cast around Lopez.We're really counting on a Brook Lopez injury or trade, aren't we?
Sean Mays / Kenny Atkinson doing good work so far, all things considered.
We are.
This is all Obama's fault.
Mike
Theyll still be bottom 5 with Lopez healthy. If he goes down they'll challenge Philly fornworst record.
Ravaged?
They lost a rookie who had little impact on the W/L column and Jarret Jack about half way through the season. Injuries had absolutely nothing to do with their result, the fact that they had one of the worst rosters and benches in the NBA was why they sucked lol.
You sound like one of those climate change deniers who just won't relent.
Wait. So RHJ was a "star rookie" averaging 5.8 points, but Brown is "only" averaging 7 points. You really walked into that one... LOL
You can see Jefferson's impact in games like Saturday night when he had 20 points, 13 rebounds, 4 assists, 1 block and 1 steal in a win.
If Brooklyn keeps this type of play up, we'll struggle to have enough assets to trade for a star.
They still had their 3 best players for the entire season. They had their 6th man, Bogdanovic, for the entire season. They lost a rookie averaging 5 points with some defense, and their 32 year old scrub of a starting PG in Jarrett Jack.
Jarrett Jack was the worst starting point guard in the NBA last season. 26% from 3pt, 4.7 assists, and a +/- of -4.6 for the season. He was absolute trash and was one of the main reasons they were so poor.
They were simply not constructed to win many games. They had the 27th offensive rating and the 29th defensive rating.
Their bench included Andrea Bargani and Thomas Robinson and they literally had a 15 man rotation. In fact 13 of their players averaged over 15 minutes a game, and 10 of their players averaged 20 minutes a game.
You repeatedly stick to the 'decimated by injuries' argument, when we were all saying they weren't deep enough to withstand any injuries and it was why they would suck.
Again, Brook Lopez was healthy. Joe Johnson was healthy. Thadeus Young was healthy.
Shane Larkin took fewer shots, had better percentages, and had the same assist totals as Jack.
You must be trolling at this point.
This has already been argued to death. The fact is they won only 21 games, and at no point last season were the Nets - healthy or not - on pace to win 35 games. Argument over.
What is slightly concerning this season is the Nets actually have played some really good ball in the games that they won, whereas last season they basically looked like trash the entire way. Atkinson is getting the most out of that team for sure. Still, there's 73 games left in the season and their schedule gets tougher. A lot can change across the league. Teams are still finding themselves. I think that the Nets will finish in the bottom 5, especially if they're going to sit Lopez out a bunch of games.
yes let's hope Lopez misses more games like tonight. Last year proved that the nets can be surprisingly terrible when many of their key players don't suit up.Clippers up 39-14 after 1.Finally a night we can just relax and chalk up the L. They've been pi$$ing me off with their scrappy play.
Looks like the Nets and Celts won't be tied in the standings after tonight.
lol so ridiculousyes let's hope Lopez misses more games like tonight. Last year proved that the nets can be surprisingly terrible when many of their key players don't suit up.Clippers up 39-14 after 1.Finally a night we can just relax and chalk up the L. They've been pi$$ing me off with their scrappy play.
Looks like the Nets and Celts won't be tied in the standings after tonight.
we gotta fresh take right here yallyes let's hope Lopez misses more games like tonight. Last year proved that the nets can be surprisingly terrible when many of their key players don't suit up.Clippers up 39-14 after 1.Finally a night we can just relax and chalk up the L. They've been pi$$ing me off with their scrappy play.
Looks like the Nets and Celts won't be tied in the standings after tonight.
lol I can't wait till they do the 30 for 30 on how the nets were decimated with injuries to their journeyman point guard and late first round pick. It has to be the most injury riddled season in the history of sports to lose 2 players like that.we gotta fresh take right here yallyes let's hope Lopez misses more games like tonight. Last year proved that the nets can be surprisingly terrible when many of their key players don't suit up.Clippers up 39-14 after 1.Finally a night we can just relax and chalk up the L. They've been pi$$ing me off with their scrappy play.
Looks like the Nets and Celts won't be tied in the standings after tonight.
we need a 30 for 30 on larbrd33lol I can't wait till they do the 30 for 30 on how the nets were decimated with injuries to their journeyman point guard and late first round pick. It has to be the most injury riddled season in the history of sports to lose 2 players like that.we gotta fresh take right here yallyes let's hope Lopez misses more games like tonight. Last year proved that the nets can be surprisingly terrible when many of their key players don't suit up.Clippers up 39-14 after 1.Finally a night we can just relax and chalk up the L. They've been pi$$ing me off with their scrappy play.
Looks like the Nets and Celts won't be tied in the standings after tonight.
I would love that. He was firing heat today!we need a 30 for 30 on larbrd33lol I can't wait till they do the 30 for 30 on how the nets were decimated with injuries to their journeyman point guard and late first round pick. It has to be the most injury riddled season in the history of sports to lose 2 players like that.we gotta fresh take right here yallyes let's hope Lopez misses more games like tonight. Last year proved that the nets can be surprisingly terrible when many of their key players don't suit up.Clippers up 39-14 after 1.Finally a night we can just relax and chalk up the L. They've been pi$$ing me off with their scrappy play.
Looks like the Nets and Celts won't be tied in the standings after tonight.
30 fpr 30:The Man Behind The Dingers
we need a 30 for 30 on larbrd33lol I can't wait till they do the 30 for 30 on how the nets were decimated with injuries to their journeyman point guard and late first round pick. It has to be the most injury riddled season in the history of sports to lose 2 players like that.we gotta fresh take right here yallyes let's hope Lopez misses more games like tonight. Last year proved that the nets can be surprisingly terrible when many of their key players don't suit up.Clippers up 39-14 after 1.Finally a night we can just relax and chalk up the L. They've been pi$$ing me off with their scrappy play.
Looks like the Nets and Celts won't be tied in the standings after tonight.
30 fpr 30:The Man Behind The Dingers
yes let's hope Lopez misses more games like tonight. Last year proved that the nets can be surprisingly terrible when many of their key players don't suit up.Clippers up 39-14 after 1.Finally a night we can just relax and chalk up the L. They've been pi$$ing me off with their scrappy play.
Looks like the Nets and Celts won't be tied in the standings after tonight.
it's just a joke. If we lost RJ Hunter and sullinger for a stretch last year nobody would say we were ravaged by injuries. It's a pretty good comedy bityes let's hope Lopez misses more games like tonight. Last year proved that the nets can be surprisingly terrible when many of their key players don't suit up.Clippers up 39-14 after 1.Finally a night we can just relax and chalk up the L. They've been pi$$ing me off with their scrappy play.
Looks like the Nets and Celts won't be tied in the standings after tonight.
The more you insist this, the more credibility you lose.
That is if you have any left at this point anyway.
Clippers up 39-14 after 1.
Looks like the Nets and Celts won't be tied in the standings after tonight.
oh no... not my credibility! How will I ever be a successful Celtic fan without my credibility ?yes let's hope Lopez misses more games like tonight. Last year proved that the nets can be surprisingly terrible when many of their key players don't suit up.Clippers up 39-14 after 1.Finally a night we can just relax and chalk up the L. They've been pi$$ing me off with their scrappy play.
Looks like the Nets and Celts won't be tied in the standings after tonight.
The more you insist this, the more credibility you lose.
That is if you have any left at this point anyway.
The Lake Show winning is wonderful
The Lake Show winning is wonderful
The Lake Show winning is wonderful
I dont know, i kinda find myself rooting for them. it's weird, since as a celtics fan im not supposed to, but theyre really fun to watch, and i like some of their players. so for me, this win was extra special
Just listened to Nate Duncan and Danny Leroux...
Some points they brought out:
1. They are surviving on math offensively....just chuck up threes and some have to go in.
2. They can't stop anyone defensively.
3. Lopez is a perpetual injury concern.
4. Scouting will catch up to their three point only offense.
So it would seem they are going to get worse as time goes on.
Umm guys, the Nets are beating the Thunder 51-43 right now..thunder with the lead now!
Umm guys, the Nets are beating the Thunder 51-43 right now..thunder with the lead now!
Hope and prayUmm guys, the Nets are beating the Thunder 51-43 right now..thunder with the lead now!
Yep great to see. Now let's hope they hold it.
I'm beginning to think some people may have overreacted to the first few Brooklyn games.
Through 12 games, they're on pace for 27 wins which would've been the 5th worst record in the league last year. I expect that's about where they'll wind up.
Jeremy Lin is a trade asset. Inflate his numbers on an awful team, sign him to what some dumb GM might think is a good deal in one years time when the cap reality sets in, and hope to get a first round pick out of him for your work.
Through 12 games, they're on pace for 27 wins which would've been the 5th worst record in the league last year. I expect that's about where they'll wind up.
Fine with that. It's a DEEP DRAFT. Hopefully a big is available around then. Also hope for some lottery luck lol.
They are undefeated in games where Jeremy Lin and Brook Lopez both play and Lopez gets at least 25 minutes.2-0
Not looking forward to Lin returning from injury.
They are undefeated in games where Jeremy Lin and Brook Lopez both play and Lopez gets at least 25 minutes.
Not looking forward to Lin returning from injury.
They are undefeated in games where Jeremy Lin and Brook Lopez both play and Lopez gets at least 25 minutes.
Not looking forward to Lin returning from injury.
Lol and they never lost on the third Tuesday of November!
Ravaged by injury yet again!They are undefeated in games where Jeremy Lin and Brook Lopez both play and Lopez gets at least 25 minutes.2-0
Not looking forward to Lin returning from injury.
but yea
With Jeremy Lin, they ARE a much better team. Still probably the least talented team in the NBA, but much better.Ravaged by injury yet again!They are undefeated in games where Jeremy Lin and Brook Lopez both play and Lopez gets at least 25 minutes.2-0
Not looking forward to Lin returning from injury.
but yea
With Jeremy Lin, they ARE a much better team. Still probably the least talented team in the NBA, but much better.Ravaged by injury yet again!They are undefeated in games where Jeremy Lin and Brook Lopez both play and Lopez gets at least 25 minutes.2-0
Not looking forward to Lin returning from injury.
but yea
I guess Turner is still helping us in some ways. I hope Sully invite Lopez to Burger King when the Raptors faced the Nets. :Di feel like sully is a rodeo burger kinda guy
I guess Turner is still helping us in some ways. I hope Sully invite Lopez to Burger King when the Raptors faced the Nets. :D
Ravaged by injury yet again!They are undefeated in games where Jeremy Lin and Brook Lopez both play and Lopez gets at least 25 minutes.2-0
Not looking forward to Lin returning from injury.
but yea
What if I told you, they were secretly a playoff team despite never once crawling out of the bottom 6.Ravaged by injury yet again!They are undefeated in games where Jeremy Lin and Brook Lopez both play and Lopez gets at least 25 minutes.2-0
Not looking forward to Lin returning from injury.
but yea
Lol. Do you think they will do a 30 for 30 on the Jarrett Jack injury?
I can't believe some people are panicking that the Nets won a few games (4!). Even with their torrid pace they are exactly"2" games ahead of the 3rd worse record in the league. Their schedule for the next 6 games (@Lakers; @Clippers, @OKC; vs Portland, vs. C's; @Indiana) is not all that promising for their continued dominance over the league, as only 1 team has a worse record by 1/2 game (Indiana). I see a back to reality moment for the Nets over the next two weeks.As predicted (correctly) the Nets are back to (reality) where they belong. No need to panic and no need to stick up for the Nets and how much better they are than last year. They may be but not to the point where they'll finish out of the top 5.
What if I told you, they were secretly a playoff team despite never once crawling out of the bottom 6.Ravaged by injury yet again!They are undefeated in games where Jeremy Lin and Brook Lopez both play and Lopez gets at least 25 minutes.2-0
Not looking forward to Lin returning from injury.
but yea
Lol. Do you think they will do a 30 for 30 on the Jarrett Jack injury?
That's a great idea. People need to realize how much of a difference maker Jack is.Ravaged by injury yet again!They are undefeated in games where Jeremy Lin and Brook Lopez both play and Lopez gets at least 25 minutes.2-0
Not looking forward to Lin returning from injury.
but yea
Lol. Do you think they will do a 30 for 30 on the Jarrett Jack injury?
That's a great idea. People need to realize how much of a difference maker Jack is.Ravaged by injury yet again!They are undefeated in games where Jeremy Lin and Brook Lopez both play and Lopez gets at least 25 minutes.2-0
Not looking forward to Lin returning from injury.
but yea
Lol. Do you think they will do a 30 for 30 on the Jarrett Jack injury?
I was joking and I agree with you. A couple people here made it seem like the Nets may have won a championship last year if not for Jack's injury.That's a great idea. People need to realize how much of a difference maker Jack is.Ravaged by injury yet again!They are undefeated in games where Jeremy Lin and Brook Lopez both play and Lopez gets at least 25 minutes.2-0
Not looking forward to Lin returning from injury.
but yea
Lol. Do you think they will do a 30 for 30 on the Jarrett Jack injury?
I am assuming you are joking, but there are some people that really did believe that. He couldn't make a team this year (was cut by the hawks and beat out by Will Bynum) and hasn't been signed anywhere else. He also was shooting 39% from the field and 30% from 3 and "jacking" 11 shots a game last year. I think he actually makes teams worse when he plays for them. I live in the Bay Area and I remember a few of the radio guys and commentators talking about that. He really killed their ball movement when he was here and it immediately moved a lot better when he was gone. This was also 3 years ago when he was a lot better player.
An update on Lin's status was supposed to be released late last week, but it appears he still remains without a timetable for a return and could be multiple games away from seeing the court. Isaiah Whitehead is fully over his concussion and will re-enter the starting lineup in Lin's place, while Randy Foye is expected to come off the bench behind Whitehead. Lin should be considered day-to-day moving forward until additional information is provided.
What if I told you, they were secretly a playoff team despite never once crawling out of the bottom 6.Ravaged by injury yet again!They are undefeated in games where Jeremy Lin and Brook Lopez both play and Lopez gets at least 25 minutes.2-0
Not looking forward to Lin returning from injury.
but yea
Lol. Do you think they will do a 30 for 30 on the Jarrett Jack injury?
What if I told you, they were secretly a playoff team despite never once crawling out of the bottom 6.Ravaged by injury yet again!They are undefeated in games where Jeremy Lin and Brook Lopez both play and Lopez gets at least 25 minutes.2-0
Not looking forward to Lin returning from injury.
but yea
Lol. Do you think they will do a 30 for 30 on the Jarrett Jack injury?
Hahah, I'm dying. Lbbrd really does remind me of Skip Bayless.
What if I told you, they were secretly a playoff team despite never once crawling out of the bottom 6.Ravaged by injury yet again!They are undefeated in games where Jeremy Lin and Brook Lopez both play and Lopez gets at least 25 minutes.2-0
Not looking forward to Lin returning from injury.
but yea
Lol. Do you think they will do a 30 for 30 on the Jarrett Jack injury?
Hahah, I'm dying. Lbbrd really does remind me of Skip Bayless.
In fairness, it wasn't that Jack was that great, it was that his backup was that awful. The Nets had horrible depth issues last year which they've somewhat addressed this year. In watching the games, it also felt like Jack & Lopez were the only 2 people on their team with any level of skill and trying hard to win.
What if I told you, they were secretly a playoff team despite never once crawling out of the bottom 6.Ravaged by injury yet again!They are undefeated in games where Jeremy Lin and Brook Lopez both play and Lopez gets at least 25 minutes.2-0
Not looking forward to Lin returning from injury.
but yea
Lol. Do you think they will do a 30 for 30 on the Jarrett Jack injury?
Hahah, I'm dying. Lbbrd really does remind me of Skip Bayless.
In fairness, it wasn't that Jack was that great, it was that his backup was that awful. The Nets had horrible depth issues last year which they've somewhat addressed this year. In watching the games, it also felt like Jack & Lopez were the only 2 people on their team with any level of skill and trying hard to win.
FiveThirtyEight's current prediction...tied with Philly for worst record in the league at 25 - 57
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FiveThirtyEight's current prediction...tied with Philly for worst record in the league at 25 - 57
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President Clinton will be thrilled! ;D
Mike
Mavs still got the worse record in the league. They may already raise the white flag. Either way, both approach could be good for us.
There is a 6-way tie between the Nets, Wolves, Sixers, Wizards and Heat. We need to beat them tomorrow if we want them to get ahead in the tanking standings.
Mavs still got the worse record in the league. They may already raise the white flag. Either way, both approach could be good for us.
There is a 6-way tie between the Nets, Wolves, Sixers, Wizards and Heat. We need to beat them tomorrow if we want them to get ahead in the tanking standings.
Well, it's official - Brooklyn won't win 73. Warriors can breathe easy for another year.tp. I'm getting excited. I keep reading some really incredible things about this draft class and it's amazing to know that we legitimately have a chance at getting one of them without tanking. I don't want to jinx anything, but it's starting to look like we have a real shot at getting someone special - if we don't trade the pick in a package for a star first. Ainge is my hero.
No Hollis-Jefferson tonight for Brooklyn. Indiana kind of suck, but Brooklyn will be without two of their best four players. Not really worried about tonight.
It's way to early to assume anything and it probably won't happen, but if Philly end up finishing above them I wouldn't be too shocked anymore.
I hurt my back this morning and I'm laid up at home. I'm watching the Nets game as I write.
A bad back and the Nets. A perfect combination of sensory hell.
Brooklyn getting destroyed by Indi, hopefully Miami can hang on to their lead against the GrizzliesEvery time Brooklyn gets destroyed, part of me that was previously dead inside gets reanimated.
I hurt my back this morning and I'm laid up at home. I'm watching the Nets game as I write.
A bad back and the Nets. A perfect combination of sensory hell.
Sorry about your back. Take solace in the fact that, if we put you in the game, bad back and all, you'd still be the third-best player on the Nets.
Mike
Brooklyn getting destroyed by Indi, hopefully Miami can hang on to their lead against the GrizzliesEvery time Brooklyn gets destroyed, part of me that was previously dead inside gets reanimated.
How will we be ridiculously strong in 3 or 4 years? I'm not seeing it. Smart, Thomas and Bradley are due to be paid in two years so we'll most likely lose one of them. Horford will be 33/34.Brooklyn getting destroyed by Indi, hopefully Miami can hang on to their lead against the GrizzliesEvery time Brooklyn gets destroyed, part of me that was previously dead inside gets reanimated.
It's tempting to think the sky is falling when we get beaten by a strong, seasoned Spurs team with four maybe five future HOFers, by 6 points, but people really need to realize our time is not now. Our time is in three or four years when our team will be ridiculously strong. These games serve as a nice reminder
How will we be ridiculously strong in 3 or 4 years? I'm not seeing it. Smart, Thomas and Bradley are due to be paid in two years so we'll most likely lose one of them. Horford will be 33/34.Brooklyn getting destroyed by Indi, hopefully Miami can hang on to their lead against the GrizzliesEvery time Brooklyn gets destroyed, part of me that was previously dead inside gets reanimated.
It's tempting to think the sky is falling when we get beaten by a strong, seasoned Spurs team with four maybe five future HOFers, by 6 points, but people really need to realize our time is not now. Our time is in three or four years when our team will be ridiculously strong. These games serve as a nice reminder
yeah, we are kinda building 2 potential championship cores at once.How will we be ridiculously strong in 3 or 4 years? I'm not seeing it. Smart, Thomas and Bradley are due to be paid in two years so we'll most likely lose one of them. Horford will be 33/34.Brooklyn getting destroyed by Indi, hopefully Miami can hang on to their lead against the GrizzliesEvery time Brooklyn gets destroyed, part of me that was previously dead inside gets reanimated.
It's tempting to think the sky is falling when we get beaten by a strong, seasoned Spurs team with four maybe five future HOFers, by 6 points, but people really need to realize our time is not now. Our time is in three or four years when our team will be ridiculously strong. These games serve as a nice reminder
He could and it wouldnt be the dumbest idea. As long Brooklyn '17 or '18 yields a potential superstarHow will we be ridiculously strong in 3 or 4 years? I'm not seeing it. Smart, Thomas and Bradley are due to be paid in two years so we'll most likely lose one of them. Horford will be 33/34.Brooklyn getting destroyed by Indi, hopefully Miami can hang on to their lead against the GrizzliesEvery time Brooklyn gets destroyed, part of me that was previously dead inside gets reanimated.
It's tempting to think the sky is falling when we get beaten by a strong, seasoned Spurs team with four maybe five future HOFers, by 6 points, but people really need to realize our time is not now. Our time is in three or four years when our team will be ridiculously strong. These games serve as a nice reminder
Im betting that Wyc will be paying the luxury tax just to retain that core if they manage to finish season with 50+ wins in the next two years.
He could and it wouldnt be the dumbest idea. As long Brooklyn '17 or '18 yields a potential superstarHow will we be ridiculously strong in 3 or 4 years? I'm not seeing it. Smart, Thomas and Bradley are due to be paid in two years so we'll most likely lose one of them. Horford will be 33/34.Brooklyn getting destroyed by Indi, hopefully Miami can hang on to their lead against the GrizzliesEvery time Brooklyn gets destroyed, part of me that was previously dead inside gets reanimated.
It's tempting to think the sky is falling when we get beaten by a strong, seasoned Spurs team with four maybe five future HOFers, by 6 points, but people really need to realize our time is not now. Our time is in three or four years when our team will be ridiculously strong. These games serve as a nice reminder
Im betting that Wyc will be paying the luxury tax just to retain that core if they manage to finish season with 50+ wins in the next two years.
or obviously if Brown looks like he could be one.
We aren't getting Griffin. Hayward might be possible but he won't make us a contender. If the Kings don't stop screwing around, we won't have a chance at Cousins either.yeah, we are kinda building 2 potential championship cores at once.How will we be ridiculously strong in 3 or 4 years? I'm not seeing it. Smart, Thomas and Bradley are due to be paid in two years so we'll most likely lose one of them. Horford will be 33/34.Brooklyn getting destroyed by Indi, hopefully Miami can hang on to their lead against the GrizzliesEvery time Brooklyn gets destroyed, part of me that was previously dead inside gets reanimated.
It's tempting to think the sky is falling when we get beaten by a strong, seasoned Spurs team with four maybe five future HOFers, by 6 points, but people really need to realize our time is not now. Our time is in three or four years when our team will be ridiculously strong. These games serve as a nice reminder
The first one has a 2 year timeline to acquire the next star. Say you get a Cousins or a Griffin or some mystery star prior to Smart/AB/Thomas expiring. Then you use Bird rights to keep everyone you need and chase a title with:
Star
Horford
probably 2 of Bradley Smart Thomas
Crowder
whoever of Brown/Rozier/'17/'18 we get to keep while getting star
the other one is if that mystical star never comes to us and we get to '18 FA. In this situation Id advocate keeping 1 of Smart/Bradley/Thomas (I like Smart largely because Thomas's size scares me, Bradley's reliance on his athleticism defensively and more importantly on his jumper scares my and most importantly because I think Marcus's lack of scoring/shooting will make him cheap) then you still keep an oldish Horford and an end of his prime Crowder and build around your 16-18 Nets picks with those guys making up a terrific supporting cast.
Its possible to have
Smart
Crowder
Horford
Rozier
hopefully one of those Euros or Demetrius works out
Brown
'17
'18
perhaps we could still fit a max on top?
In a perfect world, you get your star in FA this year (Griffin?) keep 17 and 18 and Brown and one winfow of contention moves seemlessly into the other.
i get what you're saying, but I still don't really know who this team could add other than LeBron James to really make it competitive with a team like the Warriors over the next 5-10 years. The good news is, we should be a 55 win team right now and we could be a sneaky 60+ win team with a major free agent addition. That will hold us over, keep team very interesting and watchable with hopefully some decent playoff runs over the next several years... but with Golden State checkmating the entire league for the near-to-mid future, our eyes should be on trying to land the elusive superstar prospects to help us contend against teams like the Wolves and Philly in the next generation (2020s). I'm in favor of keeping the picks for that reason. While we'll be very good, I doubt we contend for a title in the short-term. Hopefully Jaylen and Smart continue to develop... our window might be 7-9 years from now when those guys are in their late 20s and the 2017 and 18 draft picks are reaching their prime.yeah, we are kinda building 2 potential championship cores at once.How will we be ridiculously strong in 3 or 4 years? I'm not seeing it. Smart, Thomas and Bradley are due to be paid in two years so we'll most likely lose one of them. Horford will be 33/34.Brooklyn getting destroyed by Indi, hopefully Miami can hang on to their lead against the GrizzliesEvery time Brooklyn gets destroyed, part of me that was previously dead inside gets reanimated.
It's tempting to think the sky is falling when we get beaten by a strong, seasoned Spurs team with four maybe five future HOFers, by 6 points, but people really need to realize our time is not now. Our time is in three or four years when our team will be ridiculously strong. These games serve as a nice reminder
The first one has a 2 year timeline to acquire the next star. Say you get a Cousins or a Griffin or some mystery star prior to Smart/AB/Thomas expiring. Then you use Bird rights to keep everyone you need and chase a title with:
Star
Horford
probably 2 of Bradley Smart Thomas
Crowder
whoever of Brown/Rozier/'17/'18 we get to keep while getting star
the other one is if that mystical star never comes to us and we get to '18 FA. In this situation Id advocate keeping 1 of Smart/Bradley/Thomas (I like Smart largely because Thomas's size scares me, Bradley's reliance on his athleticism defensively and more importantly on his jumper scares my and most importantly because I think Marcus's lack of scoring/shooting will make him cheap) then you still keep an oldish Horford and an end of his prime Crowder and build around your 16-18 Nets picks with those guys making up a terrific supporting cast.
Its possible to have
Smart
Crowder
Horford
Rozier
hopefully one of those Euros or Demetrius works out
Brown
'17
'18
perhaps we could still fit a max on top?
In a perfect world, you get your star in FA this year (Griffin?) keep 17 and 18 and Brown and one winfow of contention moves seemlessly into the other.
Either way Kings losing is a win win to us. If Kings win, Brooklyn loses. If Kings lose to the Nets, Cousins gets disgruntled, and even more considering how bad the Nets are currently right now.I see it as a lose/lose, but I agree with your premise.
No Hollis-Jefferson again. So there's that, at least. I never know what to expect from the Kings though.Man... Lin and Hollis-Jefferson both out? At thanksgiving this year, I gave thanks to the basketball gods for riddling the Nets with injuries again.
I don't want to jinx things, but the Kings really have no business losing to Brooklyn.
97-81 Nets lead. 9 minutes to go in the game.
update: nets are losing by 14 (107-93) with 5:31 in the 4th.
another delicious loss seems to be on the horizon. ;D
i cant remember another trade in the history of the celtics in my lifetime has has delivered as much entertainment as the one ainge made with the nets. and we get to do this all over again NEXT year too!! ;D
ha, ha. a tp to placate your stress. but for me, this is fun. the nets clearly suck big time. watching them flounder is fun. even if they make a semblance of a run this year or next the WORST case scenario is a top 10 pick.update: nets are losing by 14 (107-93) with 5:31 in the 4th.
another delicious loss seems to be on the horizon. ;D
i cant remember another trade in the history of the celtics in my lifetime has has delivered as much entertainment as the one ainge made with the nets. and we get to do this all over again NEXT year too!! ;D
you see this as entertainment? lol, i have to disagree, man. i love that we have the pics, but this stuff is stressful, especially towards the end of the season, when you have to worry about other teams winning or losing and whether you can get the best lottery odds or not.
update: nets are losing by 14 (107-93) with 5:31 in the 4th.
another delicious loss seems to be on the horizon. ;D
i cant remember another trade in the history of the celtics in my lifetime has has delivered as much entertainment as the one ainge made with the nets. and we get to do this all over again NEXT year too!! ;D
you see this as entertainment? lol, i have to disagree, man. i love that we have the pics, but this stuff is stressful, especially towards the end of the season, when you have to worry about other teams winning or losing and whether you can get the best lottery odds or not.
ha, ha. a tp to placate your stress. but for me, this is fun. the nets clearly suck big time. watching them flounder is fun. even if they make a semblance of a run this year or next the WORST case scenario is a top 10 pick.update: nets are losing by 14 (107-93) with 5:31 in the 4th.
another delicious loss seems to be on the horizon. ;D
i cant remember another trade in the history of the celtics in my lifetime has has delivered as much entertainment as the one ainge made with the nets. and we get to do this all over again NEXT year too!! ;D
you see this as entertainment? lol, i have to disagree, man. i love that we have the pics, but this stuff is stressful, especially towards the end of the season, when you have to worry about other teams winning or losing and whether you can get the best lottery odds or not.
life is short. this is fun. and the nets suck. ;D
Its a nice side story but I'm nowhere near as emotionally invested this year as I was last year. I know this draft looks better but last year I was almost more interested in Nets losses than Celtics wins and the big payoff was... Jaylen Brown. Nothing against Jaylen but I'm not going to be so invested in the Nets being the worst team for 82 games this year. Maybe I'll care more later in the season.update: nets are losing by 14 (107-93) with 5:31 in the 4th.
another delicious loss seems to be on the horizon. ;D
i cant remember another trade in the history of the celtics in my lifetime has has delivered as much entertainment as the one ainge made with the nets. and we get to do this all over again NEXT year too!! ;D
you see this as entertainment? lol, i have to disagree, man. i love that we have the pics, but this stuff is stressful, especially towards the end of the season, when you have to worry about other teams winning or losing and whether you can get the best lottery odds or not.
and its a wrap. the nets are not officially 4-12. if they keep this up they will have a final win count of around 27. that looks like a low draft choice for the celtics to me. ;D
Its a nice side story but I'm nowhere near as emotionally invested this year as I was last year. I know this draft looks better but last year I was almost more interested in Nets losses than Celtics wins and the big payoff was... Jaylen Brown. Nothing against Jaylen but I'm not going to be so invested in the Nets being the worst team for 82 games this year. Maybe I'll care more later in the season.update: nets are losing by 14 (107-93) with 5:31 in the 4th.
another delicious loss seems to be on the horizon. ;D
i cant remember another trade in the history of the celtics in my lifetime has has delivered as much entertainment as the one ainge made with the nets. and we get to do this all over again NEXT year too!! ;D
you see this as entertainment? lol, i have to disagree, man. i love that we have the pics, but this stuff is stressful, especially towards the end of the season, when you have to worry about other teams winning or losing and whether you can get the best lottery odds or not.
well crapavoux!!!! you sir are one hundred percent correct!!! (did i get that math correct? ;) )and its a wrap. the nets are not officially 4-12. if they keep this up they will have a final win count of around 27. that looks like a low draft choice for the celtics to me. ;D
I'm not typically one to call out a math error, but the Nets are batting .250 now. If they keep that up, they'll end the season with 20.5 wins, and there's no way I'm letting you cheat me out of 6.5 Nets losses!
:D
Mike
Its a nice side story but I'm nowhere near as emotionally invested this year as I was last year. I know this draft looks better but last year I was almost more interested in Nets losses than Celtics wins and the big payoff was... Jaylen Brown. Nothing against Jaylen but I'm not going to be so invested in the Nets being the worst team for 82 games this year. Maybe I'll care more later in the season.update: nets are losing by 14 (107-93) with 5:31 in the 4th.
another delicious loss seems to be on the horizon. ;D
i cant remember another trade in the history of the celtics in my lifetime has has delivered as much entertainment as the one ainge made with the nets. and we get to do this all over again NEXT year too!! ;D
you see this as entertainment? lol, i have to disagree, man. i love that we have the pics, but this stuff is stressful, especially towards the end of the season, when you have to worry about other teams winning or losing and whether you can get the best lottery odds or not.
Your around be bro because that pick this year should be
waaaaayyyyyy, more valuable than Jaylen Brown.
I can't wait for the Chad Ford Tiers this year. We might have 5 Tier one talents this year. Maybe more.
It appears that the majority of people on this blog think that Brooklyn is a bottom 10 team in the league, and most likely a bottom 5 team.
It is hard for me to envision a scenario where Brooklyn makes the playoffs. I cannot see them improving their roster this year. Does anyone see a path for them to trade Lopez for a better player(s) that pushes them into the playoffs? I don't.
It appears that the majority of people on this blog think that Brooklyn is a bottom 10 team in the league, and most likely a bottom 5 team.if the trade lopez, it is most likely to be for picks and young players. which means they could suck for another year or two. perfect! ;D
It is hard for me to envision a scenario where Brooklyn makes the playoffs. I cannot see them improving their roster this year. Does anyone see a path for them to trade Lopez for a better player(s) that pushes them into the playoffs? I don't.
exactly how I see it.It appears that the majority of people on this blog think that Brooklyn is a bottom 10 team in the league, and most likely a bottom 5 team.if the trade lopez, it is most likely to be for picks and young players. which means they could suck for another year or two. perfect! ;D
It is hard for me to envision a scenario where Brooklyn makes the playoffs. I cannot see them improving their roster this year. Does anyone see a path for them to trade Lopez for a better player(s) that pushes them into the playoffs? I don't.
I think the rising cap has hurt them as much as it hurt our plans in FA. Without the rising cap there would have been more demand for cap clearing deals that they could have taken advantage of. Deals like Zeller and Thornton coming to us for example. Management in Brooklyn is going to have to be smart over the next few years to grow something out of nothing. I wouldn't be surprised if Lopez was traded for smaller veteran assets on longer contracts just to give them a bit more flexibility in future tradesexactly how I see it.It appears that the majority of people on this blog think that Brooklyn is a bottom 10 team in the league, and most likely a bottom 5 team.if the trade lopez, it is most likely to be for picks and young players. which means they could suck for another year or two. perfect! ;D
It is hard for me to envision a scenario where Brooklyn makes the playoffs. I cannot see them improving their roster this year. Does anyone see a path for them to trade Lopez for a better player(s) that pushes them into the playoffs? I don't.
Nets have to be viewing their picks this coming draft and next as sunk costs that can't be recouped. They need to acquire other assets in the form of either young prospects and/or first round picks. Lopez is really the only asset they have that can be used in a trade for those types of assets to get their rebuild underway. no FA worth much will sign there until that franchise starts to climb out of that hole they're in.
Nets will suck badly this year with or without Lopez but definitely more without him. they'll probably improve a little next year but not by much -- still be in the lottery and giving us their pick.
Linsanity to the rescue?
Kings/76ers game tonight is another good win-win type of game for us.
Realistically I don't see how the Nets do any better than the 3rd worst record in the league when the smoke clears. After Brook Lopez and Jeremy Lin their team is D-League players and prospects.
9 straight points by Austin "the Spawn" Rivers to put the Clippers up 16 in the 3rd. Well done lad.
Interesting to see how many guys on Tier 1 this year. Looks like it could be at least 3, maybe as high as 5.Im expecting 0 with a massive second tier.
Wow. I left awhile ago with Clips leading big only to get them see down by 3 in the last minute. LOL Clips still living up to their name as chokers.
Whooo and the Nets play the Bucks tomorrow who are currently about to blow out the Cavs. Lets seal this Nets loss up!
Whooo and the Nets play the Bucks tomorrow who are currently about to blow out the Cavs. Lets seal this Nets loss up!
They play the Bucks Thursday, but otherwise, yeah. Go Bucks!
Too bad Griffin was rested this game. Shouldn't be so close. But it's nice to see Lopez play so many minutes. That should catch up with him vs. the Bucks.
This is hilarious. Doc tossed.
This is hilarious. Doc tossed.
This is hilarious. Doc tossed.
doc tried to fight the ref lol.
This is hilarious. Doc tossed.
And Kilpatrick can't make any free throws!
Did paul hit the 3? or Crawford?my bad. it was Crawford.
Just saw the Doc highlight. What was he mad about? Was it an issue with the lady ref again with Paul?Jordan made a free throw to make it a two point game. Nets quickly inbound. Clippers trap. Lauren Holtkamp (lady ref) called a foul on Paul on the double. Doc didn't like it. Ken Mauer calls him for a meh technical, Doc loses his gasket, gets tossed.
Just saw the Doc highlight. What was he mad about? Was it an issue with the lady ref again with Paul?
Just saw the Doc highlight. What was he mad about? Was it an issue with the lady ref again with Paul?Jordan made a free throw to make it a two point game. Nets quickly inbound. Clippers trap. Lauren Holtkamp (lady ref) called a foul on Paul on the double. Doc didn't like it. Ken Mauer calls him for a meh technical, Doc loses his gasket, gets tossed.
does Doc have an issue with that official?
Ugh...
does Doc have an issue with that official?
Paul and the lady ref have a long history, and it's seemingly always something controversial when she refs them.
does Doc have an issue with that official?
Paul and the lady ref have a long history, and it's seemingly always something controversial when she refs them.
she does make a ton of questionable calls though. not the best ref in the NBA, and it has nothing to do with her gender.
It was a good call. Paul did commit the foul. She's the only female ref. She's not going to blend in.does Doc have an issue with that official?
Paul and the lady ref have a long history, and it's seemingly always something controversial when she refs them.
she does make a ton of questionable calls though. not the best ref in the NBA, and it has nothing to do with her gender.
She's not a good ref. The best refs in the NBA are the ones you don't know there names. They call no attention to themselves...
I thought there were two female refs, no?Violet Palmer retired so I think Lauren Holtkamp is the only one now.
I just noticed this loss and was p---ed until I realized the NBA just didn't make sense today.
I just noticed this loss and was p---ed until I realized the NBA just didn't make sense today.
I just noticed this loss and was p---ed until I realized the NBA just didn't make sense today.
Did you see JR Smith hugging Jason Terry in the middle of a play, allowing a Bucks score? lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4d-kuxgsowM
A mixed bag of results today concerning the Nets pick. Dallas blowing a lead in the 4th quarter against the Spurs, Washington losing to OKC in overtime and Minnesota losing by 2 against the Knicks. On the bright side Miami won in Denver and Phoenix held on to beat Atlanta by 2.I'd phrase it as a lot more opportunity. There will be lots of good young talent to evaluate. The 1st upperclassman in the DraftExpress mock is at 26.
We're still in a good spot. Though this year there seems to be lot more uncertainty about the top picks. Last year's top 2 was easy, Simmons and Ingram, only after that did it get complicated. Right now it's all up in the air.
Obviously there's still a whole season of college ball for players to establish themselves but right now it looks like there could be a lot more pressure picking in the top 5 or so. Danny and co have their work cut out for them.
And a lot less pressure to get a top 2 pick. If the Nets end up with a bottom 4 or 5 record we'll probably get a good pick. Obviously the worse they are the better, but I'm not going to get as stressed this year over every Nets win.A mixed bag of results today concerning the Nets pick. Dallas blowing a lead in the 4th quarter against the Spurs, Washington losing to OKC in overtime and Minnesota losing by 2 against the Knicks. On the bright side Miami won in Denver and Phoenix held on to beat Atlanta by 2.I'd phrase it as a lot more opportunity. There will be lots of good young talent to evaluate. The 1st upperclassman in the DraftExpress mock is at 26.
We're still in a good spot. Though this year there seems to be lot more uncertainty about the top picks. Last year's top 2 was easy, Simmons and Ingram, only after that did it get complicated. Right now it's all up in the air.
Obviously there's still a whole season of college ball for players to establish themselves but right now it looks like there could be a lot more pressure picking in the top 5 or so. Danny and co have their work cut out for them.
Anyone know anything about Motiejunas?
http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/18179922/brooklyn-nets-likely-sign-donatas-motiejunas-offer-sheet
Mike
Anyone know anything about Motiejunas?
http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/18179922/brooklyn-nets-likely-sign-donatas-motiejunas-offer-sheet
Mike
6'11 Big Euro who shoot's three but is also known to have a well developed low post game. Good Shooter, mediocre rebounder, OK defender. Motie was traded to Detroit last year at the deadline for a 1st but the deal was voided after DM failed his physical.
Some speculated that Van Gundy just had second thoughts and could have allowed the trade go through if he wanted. Motiejunas has battled injuries throughout his career and clearly thinks he's better than what the Rockets were offering him.
Rockets were originally thought to be deciding between Motie and Terrance Jones but ended up signing Ryan Anderson making both expendable.
I've got to step back from the edge after some of these nets wins Like last night which are inexcusable. Its getting Bad win Nets win bother me more than Celtics losses .
Doc is definitely not the brightest bulb in the circuit .
Bucks crush the Nets and they are tied with Milwaukee for 3rd worst record. Only Dallas and 76ers behind them. To think Dallas is only 2 wins behind the Nets is a pretty great feeling. The Nets look more and more like a bottom 3 team, with a Lopez injury away from being the worst team.
Right now the only team that looks like it will hold that other bottom 3 spot is the 76ers.
Bucks crush the Nets and they are tied with Milwaukee for 3rd worst record. Only Dallas and 76ers behind them. To think Dallas is only 2 wins behind the Nets is a pretty great feeling. The Nets look more and more like a bottom 3 team, with a Lopez injury away from being the worst team.
Right now the only team that looks like it will hold that other bottom 3 spot is the 76ers.
Embiid's minutes restriction just got a little more relaxed today.I think Philly can catch them. Dallas on the other hand...sheesh.
Anyone know anything about Motiejunas?
http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/18179922/brooklyn-nets-likely-sign-donatas-motiejunas-offer-sheet
Mike
6'11 Big Euro who shoot's three but is also known to have a well developed low post game. Good Shooter, mediocre rebounder, OK defender. Motie was traded to Detroit last year at the deadline for a 1st but the deal was voided after DM failed his physical.
Some speculated that Van Gundy just had second thoughts and could have allowed the trade go through if he wanted. Motiejunas has battled injuries throughout his career and clearly thinks he's better than what the Rockets were offering him.
Rockets were originally thought to be deciding between Motie and Terrance Jones but ended up signing Ryan Anderson making both expendable.
I expect the Rockets will match the Nets offer sheet. It doesn't sound like anything more than the first year will be guaranteed.
Anyone know anything about Motiejunas?
http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/18179922/brooklyn-nets-likely-sign-donatas-motiejunas-offer-sheet
Mike
6'11 Big Euro who shoot's three but is also known to have a well developed low post game. Good Shooter, mediocre rebounder, OK defender. Motie was traded to Detroit last year at the deadline for a 1st but the deal was voided after DM failed his physical.
Some speculated that Van Gundy just had second thoughts and could have allowed the trade go through if he wanted. Motiejunas has battled injuries throughout his career and clearly thinks he's better than what the Rockets were offering him.
Rockets were originally thought to be deciding between Motie and Terrance Jones but ended up signing Ryan Anderson making both expendable.
I expect the Rockets will match the Nets offer sheet. It doesn't sound like anything more than the first year will be guaranteed.
Nets offer 4-year $37 million to Motiejunas, with the 2 back years non-guaranteed. Houston is likely to match according to Woj.
http://www.netsdaily.com/2016/12/2/13825794/nets-sign-motiejunas-to-four-year-37-million-offer-sheet (http://www.netsdaily.com/2016/12/2/13825794/nets-sign-motiejunas-to-four-year-37-million-offer-sheet)
The Nets seem to like picking up injured folks - McCullough, LeVert, and Motiejunas, who is coming off of 2 back surgeries.
Looks like brooklyn is going to win, if only teams would catch on they get hot in the 2nd half.nets down 5, don't they have very poor 3rd quarters generally?
Looks like I reverse-Jinxed it. :D
5-14 is exactly the same record they had at this time last year.if the keep up this pace, the nets will win 21 to 22 games. this year their pick is looking good, once again. ;D
In fact the Nets were 7-15 last year.
ooh wee that December schedule looks good for us. omg, i can only hope those teams don't sleep on them.
TP Max, thanks for the news.
The Nets aren't just bad, but they're tying up a bunch of teams with good young cores that could be competition for us with bad cap deals. Their offer sheets for DMo, Crabbe and that dude on Miami are all going to be real impediments going forward. Thanks guys.
It's too bad the 2017 draft lacks bigs the caliber of Embiid, Towns, or Porzingis, because that is what we truly need the most.
It's too bad the 2017 draft lacks bigs the caliber of Embiid, Towns, or Porzingis, because that is what we truly need the most.
Feeling pretty good right now. Was thinking that, in this four game stretch of 2X MIL, WAS and DEN, that 1-3 would be a great result. It's hard to beat the same team 2X in a row and I figured that they would beat either WAS or DEN. 0-3 as we head into Denver is a great position.no need to be pessimistic or negative. the nets really, really suck and why not be hopeful? its almost the holidays, and did i mention that the nets really, really suck? ;D
Of course, that means that during their "rest of December from Hell," they'll probably go 4-7 or 5-6 and beat the Warriors and Cavs, making CBers' heads burst.
Mike
Right on. I think they are 1-9 in the last ten games. I think a few more losses might break them. Good times.Feeling pretty good right now. Was thinking that, in this four game stretch of 2X MIL, WAS and DEN, that 1-3 would be a great result. It's hard to beat the same team 2X in a row and I figured that they would beat either WAS or DEN. 0-3 as we head into Denver is a great position.no need to be pessimistic or negative. the nets really, really suck and why not be hopeful? its almost the holidays, and did i mention that the nets really, really suck? ;D
Of course, that means that during their "rest of December from Hell," they'll probably go 4-7 or 5-6 and beat the Warriors and Cavs, making CBers' heads burst.
Mike
Right on. I think they are 1-9 in the last ten games. I think a few more losses might break them. Good times.Feeling pretty good right now. Was thinking that, in this four game stretch of 2X MIL, WAS and DEN, that 1-3 would be a great result. It's hard to beat the same team 2X in a row and I figured that they would beat either WAS or DEN. 0-3 as we head into Denver is a great position.no need to be pessimistic or negative. the nets really, really suck and why not be hopeful? its almost the holidays, and did i mention that the nets really, really suck? ;D
Of course, that means that during their "rest of December from Hell," they'll probably go 4-7 or 5-6 and beat the Warriors and Cavs, making CBers' heads burst.
Mike
To be fair, most Celts fans only watch the Nets when they play us, and some guys there sure look like allstars when they play us ;)Right on. I think they are 1-9 in the last ten games. I think a few more losses might break them. Good times.Feeling pretty good right now. Was thinking that, in this four game stretch of 2X MIL, WAS and DEN, that 1-3 would be a great result. It's hard to beat the same team 2X in a row and I figured that they would beat either WAS or DEN. 0-3 as we head into Denver is a great position.no need to be pessimistic or negative. the nets really, really suck and why not be hopeful? its almost the holidays, and did i mention that the nets really, really suck? ;D
Of course, that means that during their "rest of December from Hell," they'll probably go 4-7 or 5-6 and beat the Warriors and Cavs, making CBers' heads burst.
Mike
Are people really surprised? I feel like a few people thought for some reason RHJ and Mcullough were legit budding young stars. I really thought they had a bunch of bad players on their team after being forced to go with their plan c in free agency. Also, does Lin regret signing there?
Sources: Donatas Motiejunas will not report to Rockets to take physical and join team. Rockets and RFA's reps discussing next steps.
Rockets options: Leave open current offer/deal and wait, or return Motiejunas to restricted free agency. He couldn't sign w/ Nets for a year
To be fair, most Celts fans only watch the Nets when they play us, and some guys there sure look like allstars when they play us ;)Right on. I think they are 1-9 in the last ten games. I think a few more losses might break them. Good times.Feeling pretty good right now. Was thinking that, in this four game stretch of 2X MIL, WAS and DEN, that 1-3 would be a great result. It's hard to beat the same team 2X in a row and I figured that they would beat either WAS or DEN. 0-3 as we head into Denver is a great position.no need to be pessimistic or negative. the nets really, really suck and why not be hopeful? its almost the holidays, and did i mention that the nets really, really suck? ;D
Of course, that means that during their "rest of December from Hell," they'll probably go 4-7 or 5-6 and beat the Warriors and Cavs, making CBers' heads burst.
Mike
Are people really surprised? I feel like a few people thought for some reason RHJ and Mcullough were legit budding young stars. I really thought they had a bunch of bad players on their team after being forced to go with their plan c in free agency. Also, does Lin regret signing there?
Feeling pretty good right now. Was thinking that, in this four game stretch of 2X MIL, WAS and DEN, that 1-3 would be a great result. It's hard to beat the same team 2X in a row and I figured that they would beat either WAS or DEN. 0-3 as we head into Denver is a great position.no need to be pessimistic or negative. the nets really, really suck and why not be hopeful? its almost the holidays, and did i mention that the nets really, really suck? ;D
Of course, that means that during their "rest of December from Hell," they'll probably go 4-7 or 5-6 and beat the Warriors and Cavs, making CBers' heads burst.
Mike
I HATE the Nuggets.
They come in here and kick our butts and are losing by 30 to Brooklyn!?!?!?!
They were down 30??? Its a 5 point game!!!!I HATE the Nuggets.
They come in here and kick our butts and are losing by 30 to Brooklyn!?!?!?!
I know ...this ...sucks donkey balls ......where is the guy that scored like 24 points in one 1/4 against us ? Now ?
I HATE the Nuggets.
They come in here and kick our butts and are losing by 30 to Brooklyn!?!?!?!
I know ...this ...sucks donkey balls ......where is the guy that scored like 24 points in one 1/4 against us ? Now ?
Is Mudiay even good? Was so much hype on him in the draft.
Is Mudiay even good? Was so much hype on him in the draft.
Spurs are leading the Nets 103-70 at the end of the third quarter. Looks like the Nets forgot to play defense.and god bless them for it. ;D
Spurs are leading the Nets 103-70 at the end of the third quarter. Looks like the Nets forgot to play defense.and god bless them for it. ;D
Spurs are leading the Nets 103-70 at the end of the third quarter. Looks like the Nets forgot to play defense.and god bless them for it. ;D
lol.
Greg Popovich, sent by the lord himself.
Wizards unfortunately lost at home, Mavs lost too.
Good news is that right now the Nets, from a an eye test POV, look like the 2nd or 3rd worst team in the NBA, with a solid chance to be the worst if Ben Simmons gives the 76ers a few more wins and Embid's minutes restrictions are lifted.
At this point in the season we are looking something like a 65% chance of a top 3 pick with that % improving as the season goes along.
Only two teams that are as bad as the Nets are the 76ers and potentially the Wolves- but they should still etch out a few more wins than the Nets.
Spurs are leading the Nets 103-70 at the end of the third quarter. Looks like the Nets forgot to play defense.and god bless them for it. ;D
lol.
Greg Popovich, sent by the lord himself.
Wizards unfortunately lost at home, Mavs lost too.
Good news is that right now the Nets, from a an eye test POV, look like the 2nd or 3rd worst team in the NBA, with a solid chance to be the worst if Ben Simmons gives the 76ers a few more wins and Embid's minutes restrictions are lifted.
At this point in the season we are looking something like a 65% chance of a top 3 pick with that % improving as the season goes along.
Only two teams that are as bad as the Nets are the 76ers and potentially the Wolves- but they should still etch out a few more wins than the Nets.
Yeah, you have to think a healthy Simmons helps them out some more, along with Rozier after we send him for Noel. ;)
But seriously, the Wolves kill me. I thought they'd be fighting for the back-end of the playoffs this year, not one of the worst teams in the league. Their youth kills them in the second half. They can't close games for crap!
The TWolves defense is bottom 5 again. Towns, LaVine and Wiggins are all at the very bottom in DRPM. Hard to build a defensive ethic when your top 3 players suck defensively.Spurs are leading the Nets 103-70 at the end of the third quarter. Looks like the Nets forgot to play defense.and god bless them for it. ;D
lol.
Greg Popovich, sent by the lord himself.
Wizards unfortunately lost at home, Mavs lost too.
Good news is that right now the Nets, from a an eye test POV, look like the 2nd or 3rd worst team in the NBA, with a solid chance to be the worst if Ben Simmons gives the 76ers a few more wins and Embid's minutes restrictions are lifted.
At this point in the season we are looking something like a 65% chance of a top 3 pick with that % improving as the season goes along.
Only two teams that are as bad as the Nets are the 76ers and potentially the Wolves- but they should still etch out a few more wins than the Nets.
Yeah, you have to think a healthy Simmons helps them out some more, along with Rozier after we send him for Noel. ;)
But seriously, the Wolves kill me. I thought they'd be fighting for the back-end of the playoffs this year, not one of the worst teams in the league. Their youth kills them in the second half. They can't close games for crap!
I know right. They are simply awful in the 2nd half. I'm hoping that their youth and stamina with more experience than last year will get them an extra 5 wins over the 2nd half of the season than they're projecting right now.
Thibs offense is pretty trash too, he's trying to build a defensive ethic there and he's thrown the offense in the bin until the defense is set up.
But yeah, to me they're still 5 wins better than the Nets overall.
All this could change with an injury though so...
Things are looking very, very good for us come draft night.
Mark Cuban is unlikely to part ways with the Dallas Mavericks' first round pick this year.
Cuban suggested he would only trade the Mavericks' first rounder, currently projected to be a top-5 selection, in exchange for a top-5 player in the entire NBA.
Cuban referenced the Dallas Cowboys' historical trade of Herschel Walker that setup their success of the 1990s as what it would take to trade the pick.
"If Herschel Walker calls me up and says, ‘That's better than any deal I've ever been involved with,'" Cuban joked.
The 2017 NBA Draft is expected to be one of the deepest in recent memory, particularly at the point guard position.
The problem is that Dallas, Philly, Minny, and Miami are all bad basketball teams. They are just plain bad - tank or no tank. And even if they are not tanking now, they will get to a point in the season where it will seem like a lost season, and that at that point they will start tanking.Phoenix should be added to the list of bad teams that could finish worse than the Nets.
Minnesota had a chance to be halfway decent, but after watching them some, they are just a bad team. And they are certainly gonna get tired of coach Thibs yelling at them every night. I could see them going sour pretty quickly. They are a terrible outside shooting team.
Don't get me wrong, the Nets are terrible too, but I'm just not sure that that's gonna be enough to get a top 3 pick.
Hopeful but worried. I weirdly just want this season to be over. I hate having to watch the boxscores for another painful Brooklyn win.
The problem is that Dallas, Philly, Minny, and Miami are all bad basketball teams. They are just plain bad - tank or no tank. And even if they are not tanking now, they will get to a point in the season where it will seem like a lost season, and that at that point they will start tanking.Phoenix should be added to the list of bad teams that could finish worse than the Nets.
Minnesota had a chance to be halfway decent, but after watching them some, they are just a bad team. And they are certainly gonna get tired of coach Thibs yelling at them every night. I could see them going sour pretty quickly. They are a terrible outside shooting team.
Don't get me wrong, the Nets are terrible too, but I'm just not sure that that's gonna be enough to get a top 3 pick.
Hopeful but worried. I weirdly just want this season to be over. I hate having to watch the boxscores for another painful Brooklyn win.
The problem is that Dallas, Philly, Minny, and Miami are all bad basketball teams. They are just plain bad - tank or no tank. And even if they are not tanking now, they will get to a point in the season where it will seem like a lost season, and that at that point they will start tanking.Phoenix should be added to the list of bad teams that could finish worse than the Nets.
Minnesota had a chance to be halfway decent, but after watching them some, they are just a bad team. And they are certainly gonna get tired of coach Thibs yelling at them every night. I could see them going sour pretty quickly. They are a terrible outside shooting team.
Don't get me wrong, the Nets are terrible too, but I'm just not sure that that's gonna be enough to get a top 3 pick.
Hopeful but worried. I weirdly just want this season to be over. I hate having to watch the boxscores for another painful Brooklyn win.
I'm borderline on them and Sacramento.
I think Phoenix has a better mixture of talent than Philly and Minnesota. I'm surprise that that is the case because on paper both Philly and Minny should have more talent. But just watching it play out in games, I'd actually prefer the Suns pieces moving forward. They have a lot of balance and a lot of potential.
Booker, Bender, and Chriss are all potential all star talents, and if Len can become a dependable center, they really have a bright future.
And for now, they have a better chance of winning on a night in and night out basis than Philly and Minnesota.
Philly looks to be a winner in Detroit tonight.
Minnesota giving GSW a game.
If anybody thinks that Cuban isn't going to tank, read this snippet:But nowhere does he imply that he would try to make his team worse, have healthy players sit out games, or lose games on purpose. I don't see him doing any of those things.QuoteMark Cuban is unlikely to part ways with the Dallas Mavericks' first round pick this year.
Cuban suggested he would only trade the Mavericks' first rounder, currently projected to be a top-5 selection, in exchange for a top-5 player in the entire NBA.
Cuban referenced the Dallas Cowboys' historical trade of Herschel Walker that setup their success of the 1990s as what it would take to trade the pick.
"If Herschel Walker calls me up and says, ‘That's better than any deal I've ever been involved with,'" Cuban joked.
The 2017 NBA Draft is expected to be one of the deepest in recent memory, particularly at the point guard position.
If he will only trade his pick for a top 5 player, he certainly is banking on that pick being top 5 as well.
He's a smart guy and knows that the quickest way for him to rebuild is to have a terrible season in a year with a lot of talent coming out of college.
Mark Cuban and Pat Reilly do not give a crap about how they are perceived. They will both unabashedly go for these prized picks. There is no doubt in my mind.
Ugh, Nets sticking around...seriously trade him already
For a guy that is supposed to be injury nightmare, Lopez just keeps on trucking. He hit the deck hard and I thought that he was dead. NOPE, ran the length of the floor and nearly got a steal on the way back. And he's hitting threes like noones business
Brooklyn loses, Dallas wins, and Brooklyn is a half game out of the worst record in the NBA
It was a good night for everyone except Cyrus Jones. TPs across the board (except to CJ).
Mike
Anyone else worried the Nets won't be too bad with Lin back? ....
Anyone else worried the Nets won't be too bad with Lin back? ....
The next three games will be huge for the Celtics' (Nets') draft pick. All three against bottom feeders. A 1-2 record would be fantastic.Or 0-3 ;D
The next three games will be huge for the Celtics' (Nets') draft pick. All three against bottom feeders. A 1-2 record would be fantastic.Or 0-3 ;D
Minnesota with the win!
Mike
Minnesota with the win!
Mike
Phoenix tied with New York down the stretch, too!
Man, if Chandler's contract wasn't two more years after this season, I'd love him on the C's. Excellent defender and rebounder, and he perfectly fits the character of our team.
Minnesota with the win!
Mike
Phoenix tied with New York down the stretch, too!
Man, if Chandler's contract wasn't two more years after this season, I'd love him on the C's. Excellent defender and rebounder, and he perfectly fits the character of our team.
Wouldn't you take him at a reasonable price anyway?
Minnesota with the win!
Mike
Phoenix tied with New York down the stretch, too!
Man, if Chandler's contract wasn't two more years after this season, I'd love him on the C's. Excellent defender and rebounder, and he perfectly fits the character of our team.
Wouldn't you take him at a reasonable price anyway?
No.
This game has me worried. Lakers are a lot worse than people realize. Their defense is truly horrific outside of Deng and Mozgov, they fooled a few teams early in the season but have recently been exposed.their recent slump could also be attributed to their injury troubles.
The over/under is 228 lol. Gonna be a lot of points.
This game has me worried. Lakers are a lot worse than people realize. Their defense is truly horrific outside of Deng and Mozgov, they fooled a few teams early in the season but have recently been exposed.their recent slump could also be attributed to their injury troubles.
The over/under is 228 lol. Gonna be a lot of points.
Still, I think the Lakers win tonight. I also think the Nets finish the month with only 8 wins on the season.
Its not called a slump when you just suck. Cleveland can go through a slump. Golden State. Even Boston. Not the 2016/17 Lakers.This game has me worried. Lakers are a lot worse than people realize. Their defense is truly horrific outside of Deng and Mozgov, they fooled a few teams early in the season but have recently been exposed.their recent slump could also be attributed to their injury troubles.
The over/under is 228 lol. Gonna be a lot of points.
I got the lakers winning as well, with a big game from Randell.This game has me worried. Lakers are a lot worse than people realize. Their defense is truly horrific outside of Deng and Mozgov, they fooled a few teams early in the season but have recently been exposed.their recent slump could also be attributed to their injury troubles.
The over/under is 228 lol. Gonna be a lot of points.
It could, but it's more likely luck catching up with them. Their point differential before the recent injuries was much closer to their current record than the near .500 team some supposed them to be. I did the math a couple weeks ago and it predicted they should win 28 games on the year, and they're now on pace for 30. These sorts of things even themselves out over the course of a season.
Still, I think the Lakers win tonight. I also think the Nets finish the month with only 8 wins on the season.
Go Lakers!
If Walton is supposed to be a good coach, it's definitely not evident so far this game. The Lakers offense looks ragged against the worst defense in the league. The ball doesn't move and instead each Lakers player takes turns looking for their own shot. The entire team has 3 assists in the first half. Walton's also letting Ingram handle the ball, leading to a stagnant offense.sounds quite like the warriors offense actually.
They look pretty bad on defense too.
If Walton is supposed to be a good coach, it's definitely not evident so far this game. The Lakers offense looks ragged against the worst defense in the league. The ball doesn't move and instead each Lakers player takes turns looking for their own shot. The entire team has 3 assists in the first half. Walton's also letting Ingram handle the ball, leading to a stagnant offense.sounds quite like the warriors offense actually.
They look pretty bad on defense too.
Nice win by Magic. Good thing, too. I wasn't looking forward to telling the kids that we were cancelling the trip to Disney World.
Mike
Very important loss for the Nets for sure, seeing as how they play Philly next. Their schedule gets pretty brutal after that though for the rest of December and early January.
Golden State
at Cleveland
Charlotte
at Chicago
at Washington
Utah
at Indiana
Cleveland
Very important loss for the Nets for sure, seeing as how they play Philly next. Their schedule gets pretty brutal after that though for the rest of December and early January.
Golden State
at Cleveland
Charlotte
at Chicago
at Washington
Utah
at Indiana
Cleveland
Ol be po ' d if some of these teams REST their better stars agaisnt NETS ...it's just our luck ...remember Doc rested Blake and Nets prevailed,......this,could,happen if stars sit out games.
If we keep losing more games the Nets fans are going to start a season watch thread for the Cs. We are getting pretty close to lottery status.
agreed. and such a comment from someone with the blog name of TrueFan? ::)If we keep losing more games the Nets fans are going to start a season watch thread for the Cs. We are getting pretty close to lottery status.
Come on
Thank you, 6'ers.
Unexpected win/loss!
Yahoo!!!
Big 1 point win tonight by the 76ers over the Nets, 108-107.
J. Okafor 0/10
http://cdn.espn.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=400899850
Noel DNP-CD.
Hurt or on the move?
Noel DNP-CD.DNP-CD. Their coach said that the only way he would get on the court today is if one of their bigs gets in foul trouble.
Hurt or on the move?
Noel DNP-CD.
Hurt or on the move?
Out of the rotation for "the foreseeable future." That's directly from Brett Brown.
quite the process they have there in philly isnt it? ;DNoel DNP-CD.DNP-CD. Their coach said that the only way he would get on the court today is if one of their bigs gets in foul trouble.
Hurt or on the move?
I kinda feel bad for Noel. :(quite the process they have there in philly isnt it? ;DNoel DNP-CD.DNP-CD. Their coach said that the only way he would get on the court today is if one of their bigs gets in foul trouble.
Hurt or on the move?
I kinda feel bad for Noel. :(quite the process they have there in philly isnt it? ;DNoel DNP-CD.DNP-CD. Their coach said that the only way he would get on the court today is if one of their bigs gets in foul trouble.
Hurt or on the move?
not completely appropriate for a nets thread, but dallas won as well tonight. so, the woeful nets are 0.5 games out of dead last in the nba right now. only one lose behind philly and dallas. ;D
(http://pre08.deviantart.net/eaa2/th/pre/f/2016/129/f/b/fb8c70406552081fdf3cecd01b6fa364-da1v82u.jpg)not completely appropriate for a nets thread, but dallas won as well tonight. so, the woeful nets are 0.5 games out of dead last in the nba right now. only one lose behind philly and dallas. ;D
Further, they beat the Kings, which is always good for the Boogie Watch.
not completely appropriate for a nets thread, but dallas won as well tonight. so, the woeful nets are 0.5 games out of dead last in the nba right now. only one lose behind philly and dallas. ;D
Marc Stein has them dead last on his power rankings. :laugh:
http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/18304976/nba-power-rankings-marc-stein-week-9-rankings
Marc Stein has them dead last on his power rankings. :laugh:
http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/18304976/nba-power-rankings-marc-stein-week-9-rankings
TP, beat me to it.
And now, I am going to write a letter to myself:
Dear Mike,
The Nets are almost at the bottom of the pile. The rest of their games this month are at Toronto, at Cleveland, at Chicago, at Washington, with home games against Golden State and Charlotte (not necessarily in that order). According to Chris Forberg, the Nets are favored to win exactly once in the next 44 games (no idea what the last 12 look like, but I would assume that Lopez will be on the bench for many of them). It looks fantastic.
But understand this: games don't always go as expected. The Nets will not go 1-43. In fact, they probably won't go 0-6 through the end of December. Math just isn't that easy. So when the Bulls blow a close game in a week or NO benches Anthony Davis when the Pels are in town, it's okay. You don't have to get on CB and rant about Rajon Rondo and his 14 turnovers against Jeremy Lin, or scream at the Pelicans because they can't hit free throws. Remember, math works the same for all the other teams, too. Dallas, Philly and even Phoenix will also win games that they aren't supposed to. So enjoy the next few week and revel in the knowledge that Brooklyn still sucks.
Yours truly,
Mike
Had a good feeling about Philly. Even last season they split the series 2-2 against Brooklyn.
76ers and Miami are the only 2 teams I'm concerned about in the East.
Had a good feeling about Philly. Even last season they split the series 2-2 against Brooklyn.
76ers and Miami are the only 2 teams I'm concerned about in the East.
If Philly can unload a big and de-conflict the two bigs by the time Simmons gets back there isn't a chance they finish behind Brooklyn.
Had a good feeling about Philly. Even last season they split the series 2-2 against Brooklyn.
76ers and Miami are the only 2 teams I'm concerned about in the East.
If Philly can unload a big and de-conflict the two bigs by the time Simmons gets back there isn't a chance they finish behind Brooklyn.
Had a good feeling about Philly. Even last season they split the series 2-2 against Brooklyn.
76ers and Miami are the only 2 teams I'm concerned about in the East.
If Philly can unload a big and de-conflict the two bigs by the time Simmons gets back there isn't a chance they finish behind Brooklyn.
Question: Does Philly bring Simmons back even if he's healthy? If I'm them, I'm thinking, "Hmm, no reason to take any chances with this guy. Let him sit and we can have one final year of massive suckage in a draft with some pretty nice guards at the top."
Mike
They're going to be careful with Simmons recovery but I'd expect to see him playing by February. I would expect them to manage his playing very carefully like they are with Embiid.Had a good feeling about Philly. Even last season they split the series 2-2 against Brooklyn.
76ers and Miami are the only 2 teams I'm concerned about in the East.
If Philly can unload a big and de-conflict the two bigs by the time Simmons gets back there isn't a chance they finish behind Brooklyn.
Question: Does Philly bring Simmons back even if he's healthy? If I'm them, I'm thinking, "Hmm, no reason to take any chances with this guy. Let him sit and we can have one final year of massive suckage in a draft with some pretty nice guards at the top."
Mike
i hope we don't end up #1 odds, it got #1 last season but it's not happening this season. 2-3 is fine though.lol you realize this doesnt make any sense right?
i hope we don't end up #1 odds, it got #1 last season but it's not happening this season. 2-3 is fine though.lol you realize this doesnt make any sense right?
No the #1 odds doesnt always get the first pick. It gets it 25% of the time. which is more of the time than any other slot.i hope we don't end up #1 odds, it got #1 last season but it's not happening this season. 2-3 is fine though.lol you realize this doesnt make any sense right?
6ers had #1 odds last season and got the #1 pick but the #1 odds doesn't always get the 1st pick. It would be just our luck to be the worst team (BKN) and end up picking 3rd.
i hope we don't end up #1 odds, it got #1 last season but it's not happening this season. 2-3 is fine though.
i hope we don't end up #1 odds, it got #1 last season but it's not happening this season. 2-3 is fine though.
There is a city called Las Vegas that only exists because you believe this
I'll bet that the Celtics don't get the #1 pick. And for anyone who wants to take the bet that they do get the #1 slot, I'll give you 2-1 odds.Done and accepted. The terms? A tp to you, but two tps back to me. Gosh, such high stakes make me giddy! ;D
;)
Mike
I'll bet that the Celtics don't get the #1 pick. And for anyone who wants to take the bet that they do get the #1 slot, I'll give you 2-1 odds.Done and accepted. The terms? A tp to you, but two tps back to me. Gosh, such high stakes make me giddy! ;D
;)
Mike
Not taking today's game for granted after the undue stress Golden State put us through last season.
I'll bet that the Celtics don't get the #1 pick. And for anyone who wants to take the bet that they do get the #1 slot, I'll give you 2-1 odds.Done and accepted. The terms? A tp to you, but two tps back to me. Gosh, such high stakes make me giddy! ;D
;)
Mike
As the Olsen twins used to say, you got it dude. :)
Mike
There is surly no way the nets can beat GSW, Right?! Right?...
Now we know why the Nets take so many 3-pointers...
https://www.fatwallet.com/forums/free-stuff/1540054
And Phoenix at Philly tomorrow night. No matter who loses, we win!
Mike
It's really possible that Philly puts together a string of wins at some point this year. We have a very good chance for that # 1 pick. The Nets are the worst team in the NBA.A very good chance for the best odds for the #1 pick... Not the actual #1 pick. The nets could lose every game from here on out, and we would still only have a 25% chance of getting the #1 pick.
which would constitute a pretty good chance in the context of what other teams would have.It's really possible that Philly puts together a string of wins at some point this year. We have a very good chance for that # 1 pick. The Nets are the worst team in the NBA.A very good chance for the best odds for the #1 pick... Not the actual #1 pick. The nets could lose every game from here on out, and we would still only have a 25% chance of getting the #1 pick.
It's really possible that Philly puts together a string of wins at some point this year. We have a very good chance for that # 1 pick. The Nets are the worst team in the NBA.A very good chance for the best odds for the #1 pick... Not the actual #1 pick. The nets could lose every game from here on out, and we would still only have a 25% chance of getting the #1 pick.
Had a strange feeling about this game, hence the 'not taking it for granted' post. Glad I missed it because I would've been very annoyed at half time.
No messing around tomorrow Cleveland. Just do your job thanks.
Had a strange feeling about this game, hence the 'not taking it for granted' post. Glad I missed it because I would've been very annoyed at half time.
No messing around tomorrow Cleveland. Just do your job thanks.
Lot of potential tomorrow for the pick:
Nets at Cavs - This is almost assuredly a loss and a win for us.
Philly at Phoenix - This is a win either way since these two teams are sandwiched around Brooklyn in the standings, though a Philly win would put the Nets at sole possession of last place for the first time.
Dallas at LAC - This is a likely loss for Dallas, but LAC is without Blake and will be on the second night of a back to back. So a potential opportunity for Dallas to provide some more separation between them and Brooklyn.
Kings at Timberwolves - The Kings are on a roll right now, but hopefully Minny can put a stop on that and provide further separation from Brooklyn, along with hurting Sacramento's playoff potential for the Boogie Watch.
Could be a pretty good night for the pick.
Had a strange feeling about this game, hence the 'not taking it for granted' post. Glad I missed it because I would've been very annoyed at half time.
No messing around tomorrow Cleveland. Just do your job thanks.
Lot of potential tomorrow for the pick:
Nets at Cavs - This is almost assuredly a loss and a win for us.
Philly at Phoenix - This is a win either way since these two teams are sandwiched around Brooklyn in the standings, though a Philly win would put the Nets at sole possession of last place for the first time.
Dallas at LAC - This is a likely loss for Dallas, but LAC is without Blake and will be on the second night of a back to back. So a potential opportunity for Dallas to provide some more separation between them and Brooklyn.
Kings at Timberwolves - The Kings are on a roll right now, but hopefully Minny can put a stop on that and provide further separation from Brooklyn, along with hurting Sacramento's playoff potential for the Boogie Watch.
Could be a pretty good night for the pick.
Clippers without CP and Blake are gonna freefall. Theyd have enough cushion though as the only have 8 losses.Had a strange feeling about this game, hence the 'not taking it for granted' post. Glad I missed it because I would've been very annoyed at half time.
No messing around tomorrow Cleveland. Just do your job thanks.
Lot of potential tomorrow for the pick:
Nets at Cavs - This is almost assuredly a loss and a win for us.
Philly at Phoenix - This is a win either way since these two teams are sandwiched around Brooklyn in the standings, though a Philly win would put the Nets at sole possession of last place for the first time.
Dallas at LAC - This is a likely loss for Dallas, but LAC is without Blake and will be on the second night of a back to back. So a potential opportunity for Dallas to provide some more separation between them and Brooklyn.
Kings at Timberwolves - The Kings are on a roll right now, but hopefully Minny can put a stop on that and provide further separation from Brooklyn, along with hurting Sacramento's playoff potential for the Boogie Watch.
Could be a pretty good night for the pick.
Regarding the Dallas at LAC game, Chris Paul left tonight's game with a strained hamstring, so it'd doubtful that he'll play tomorrow night. Dallas could really take that game and gain more ground.
Biggest Tank Battle since WWII
I've been editing the thread title to reflect current record and standings. This morning's update was extra enjoyable.TP for the edits!
I've been editing the thread title to reflect current record and standings. This morning's update was extra enjoyable.TP for the edits!
The betting line for the LAC/Dallas just came out at LAC -6 & CP is listed as ? Dallas still has a chance though, I think.Had a strange feeling about this game, hence the 'not taking it for granted' post. Glad I missed it because I would've been very annoyed at half time.
No messing around tomorrow Cleveland. Just do your job thanks.
Lot of potential tomorrow for the pick:
Nets at Cavs - This is almost assuredly a loss and a win for us.
Philly at Phoenix - This is a win either way since these two teams are sandwiched around Brooklyn in the standings, though a Philly win would put the Nets at sole possession of last place for the first time.
Dallas at LAC - This is a likely loss for Dallas, but LAC is without Blake and will be on the second night of a back to back. So a potential opportunity for Dallas to provide some more separation between them and Brooklyn.
Kings at Timberwolves - The Kings are on a roll right now, but hopefully Minny can put a stop on that and provide further separation from Brooklyn, along with hurting Sacramento's playoff potential for the Boogie Watch.
Could be a pretty good night for the pick.
Regarding the Dallas at LAC game, Chris Paul left tonight's game with a strained hamstring, so it'd doubtful that he'll play tomorrow night. Dallas could really take that game and gain more ground.
Lakers are down 57-40 to the Magic and they lost to the Nets a week ago...
Something tells me they could start tanking in the near future. Ugh.
Lakers are down 57-40 to the Magic and they lost to the Nets a week ago...
Something tells me they could start tanking in the near future. Ugh.
Lord I hate them.
Wow, the Cavs are showing no mercy against the Nets.
It's hilarious when people say the Nets are tanking... but we have their pick essentially :laugh:
Lakers are down 57-40 to the Magic and they lost to the Nets a week ago...
Something tells me they could start tanking in the near future. Ugh.
Lord I hate them.
We all do. Amazing how they go from "potential 6th seed" to potential last place team in the west (Mavs catching up to them).
don't they have to give their pick go Phoenix.
Lakers are down 57-40 to the Magic and they lost to the Nets a week ago...
Something tells me they could start tanking in the near future. Ugh.
Lord I hate them.
We all do. Amazing how they go from "potential 6th seed" to potential last place team in the west (Mavs catching up to them).
At least unlike last season they don't have the ultimate tank commander Byron Scott in charge. Luke Walton hopefully keeps them from getting their pick.
Lakers are down 57-40 to the Magic and they lost to the Nets a week ago...
Something tells me they could start tanking in the near future. Ugh.
Lord I hate them.
We all do. Amazing how they go from "potential 6th seed" to potential last place team in the west (Mavs catching up to them).
At least unlike last season they don't have the ultimate tank commander Byron Scott in charge. Luke Walton hopefully keeps them from getting their pick.
Not a fan or apologist by any stretch, but both Randle and Nance Jr were out tonight with injury and really important to what they do.
Lin rolled his ankle pretty bad stepping on a foot going up for a layup. Still in the game somehow, but you have to think it's bothering him.
Lin rolled his ankle pretty bad stepping on a foot going up for a layup. Still in the game somehow, but you have to think it's bothering him.
Yep, called it. Just had to call timeout and go back to the locker room. That'd be a devastating loss to them in a tough schedule.
Lin rolled his ankle pretty bad stepping on a foot going up for a layup. Still in the game somehow, but you have to think it's bothering him.
Yep, called it. Just had to call timeout and go back to the locker room. That'd be a devastating loss to them in a tough schedule.
Lin rolled his ankle pretty bad stepping on a foot going up for a layup. Still in the game somehow, but you have to think it's bothering him.
Yep, called it. Just had to call timeout and go back to the locker room. That'd be a devastating loss to them in a tough schedule.
Man, tough year for Lin. Recurring ankle injuries are tough to overcome without a long time off. This will give the Nets more of a chance to develop Whitehead and Levert. Those two guys are part of their future, may as well get them prepped and see what they got
Lin rolled his ankle pretty bad stepping on a foot going up for a layup. Still in the game somehow, but you have to think it's bothering him.
Yep, called it. Just had to call timeout and go back to the locker room. That'd be a devastating loss to them in a tough schedule.
According to Nets reporters it's his hamstring.
Lin rolled his ankle pretty bad stepping on a foot going up for a layup. Still in the game somehow, but you have to think it's bothering him.
Yep, called it. Just had to call timeout and go back to the locker room. That'd be a devastating loss to them in a tough schedule.
According to Nets reporters it's his hamstring.
Yeah, I just heard that, too. Lin is a pretty tough character to keep on playing after rolling his ankle like that. He was going up off that ankle with full weight on it, too.
It is safe to say the hornets are trash. What are they even good at?
Well, luckily Minny is putting a whoopin on Atlanta, and Dallas is in a close game with New Prleans. If they both pull out wins and the Sixers can win in Sacramento, then the damage won't be too bad.
Well, luckily Minny is putting a whoopin on Atlanta, and Dallas is in a close game with New Prleans. If they both pull out wins and the Sixers can win in Sacramento, then the damage won't be too bad.
Checked the score on my phone at work and spent the next 5 hours seriously jeopardizing my employment by not having one second of patience with anyone I encountered and generally being an ill-tempered curmudgeon. It's now 11pm, I start work again at 7am and I'm still too annoyed to sleep >:(
Please Danny just trade the pick (for DeMarcus Cousins of course). This has got to stop. I can't even tell anyone why I get in these foul moods because they wouldn't understand. Good lord I have issues.
Rondo an't helping us tonight
I'd rather have Kelly than Mirotic. I know that's an obvious observation now.
Saric isn't good either but he's younger and actually passes the ball. Rather have him.I'd rather have Kelly than Mirotic. I know that's an obvious observation now.
Mirotic or saric
How embarrassing to loose to Nets at home ....
Thanks ......do nothing ......sleeping on the bench Rondo
Wade out with Migraine ....
No chance
God what an awful call on Gibson at a crucial point in the game.
Jimmy Butler. Please come to Boston.Chicago would be as good as Brooklyn without him.
What a win.
Why are Brooklyn STILL playing so dam well though
What a win.
Why are Brooklyn STILL playing so dam well though
They were absolutely awful in that 4th quarter though. And the Bulls were missing Wade.
Thank you jimbo buckets!
What a win.That game winner the other night gave them confidence, they should melo out soon
Why are Brooklyn STILL playing so dam well though
So, does Lopez get traded before the deadline or not? Can't imagine that they'll be winning hardly anything with him gone.
Who even makes sense for a Lopez trade, though? Wizards? Lakers? Phoenix?
can phoenix just win to help the pick and keep raptors in the 2cd/3rd seed just in case cavs falter?
This thread is bad for my blood pressure.
I get far more angry at Nets wins than Cs losses...that's not a good sign.
It makes me hate teams too...like the Hornets.
They beat Miami handily tonight and lose to the Nyets.....same with Denver and Mudiay.
Up 17 with 5 minutes to go. GO WIZ!
Still, I think the Lakers win tonight. I also think the Nets finish the month with only 8 wins on the season.
Remember kids, this is the man who accurately predicted the Nets record at the end of November (http://forums.celticsblog.com/index.php?topic=87730.msg2195517#msg2195517), so you can take this to the bank. ;)
Minnesota up 16 on the Bucks with ~5 minutes left to play too. That would be a nice victory for us.
Philly up 10 on Denver, but I never count on Philly to win.
Minnesota up 16 on the Bucks with ~5 minutes left to play too. That would be a nice victory for us.
Philly up 10 on Denver, but I never count on Philly to win.
Honestly, that's a win-win game for us. We'd prefer if Philly won due to the Brooklyn pick, but Denver winning also helps the Boogie Trade Watch, since they're the main competitor for the 8th seed in the West right now with the Kings. Will need quite a bit more to get them to actually trade him, though.
Minnesota up 16 on the Bucks with ~5 minutes left to play too. That would be a nice victory for us.
Philly up 10 on Denver, but I never count on Philly to win.
Honestly, that's a win-win game for us. We'd prefer if Philly won due to the Brooklyn pick, but Denver winning also helps the Boogie Trade Watch, since they're the main competitor for the 8th seed in the West right now with the Kings. Will need quite a bit more to get them to actually trade him, though.
I appreciate how easy you guys make it for the rest of us to follow BKN's season, but reading this thread makes me realize how obsessive our fanbase is. Lol. Pretty awesome, though.
Minnesota up 16 on the Bucks with ~5 minutes left to play too. That would be a nice victory for us.
Philly up 10 on Denver, but I never count on Philly to win.
Honestly, that's a win-win game for us. We'd prefer if Philly won due to the Brooklyn pick, but Denver winning also helps the Boogie Trade Watch, since they're the main competitor for the 8th seed in the West right now with the Kings. Will need quite a bit more to get them to actually trade him, though.
I appreciate how easy you guys make it for the rest of us to follow BKN's season, but reading this thread makes me realize how obsessive our fanbase is. Lol. Pretty awesome, though.
My day isn't complete unless I've simmed the lottery at least ten times on www.tankathon.com (http://www.tankathon.com).
Philadelphia is a shameful team. How many years in a row is this team going to tank.
Minnesota up 16 on the Bucks with ~5 minutes left to play too. That would be a nice victory for us.
Philly up 10 on Denver, but I never count on Philly to win.
Honestly, that's a win-win game for us. We'd prefer if Philly won due to the Brooklyn pick, but Denver winning also helps the Boogie Trade Watch, since they're the main competitor for the 8th seed in the West right now with the Kings. Will need quite a bit more to get them to actually trade him, though.
I appreciate how easy you guys make it for the rest of us to follow BKN's season, but reading this thread makes me realize how obsessive our fanbase is. Lol. Pretty awesome, though.
My day isn't complete unless I've simmed the lottery at least ten times on www.tankathon.com (http://www.tankathon.com).
Wow, thank you for exponentially improving my life / making me neglect everything else important.
Philadelphia is a shameful team. How many years in a row is this team going to tank.They aren't tanking. They just suck.
Minnesota up 16 on the Bucks with ~5 minutes left to play too. That would be a nice victory for us.
Philly up 10 on Denver, but I never count on Philly to win.
Honestly, that's a win-win game for us. We'd prefer if Philly won due to the Brooklyn pick, but Denver winning also helps the Boogie Trade Watch, since they're the main competitor for the 8th seed in the West right now with the Kings. Will need quite a bit more to get them to actually trade him, though.
I appreciate how easy you guys make it for the rest of us to follow BKN's season, but reading this thread makes me realize how obsessive our fanbase is. Lol. Pretty awesome, though.
My day isn't complete unless I've simmed the lottery at least ten times on www.tankathon.com (http://www.tankathon.com).
Wow, thank you for exponentially improving my life / making me neglect everything else important.
I've watched so much basketball this year it's not even funny. Between C's games, potentially relevant Brooklyn pick games, and potentially relevant trade target games (like Boogie in Sacramento, Butler in Chicago, and George in Indiana), like 75% of games are relevant in some way. :o
And I'm writing my dissertation full-time at the moment, so literally all I've been doing for the last several weeks is spending time with the wife and kids, writing and research, and basketball. lol Fun times!
Wait wait wait, is Embiid really taunting the crowd after only making one out of two free throws? lol
(https://media.giphy.com/media/d9ltR6odFmQsE/giphy.gif)
Thanks, Philly!
Philadelphia is a shameful team. How many years in a row is this team going to tank.
I don't even think they are tanking any more. They just have the ultimate losing culture.
I've always liked Illyasova. Seems to be a real pest and a clever defender.Philadelphia is a shameful team. How many years in a row is this team going to tank.
I don't even think they are tanking any more. They just have the ultimate losing culture.
Unbalanced and young roster. It's to be expected. Philly has made some small strides this year, though.
Embiid looks like a legit stud. Simmons is supposed to be, but who knows. Ilyasova is a legit 3rd big who can make a big impact in a three-point shooting centric league. Sergio Rodriguez is a legit backup PG on a reasonable deal. Saric has shown some potential. Stauskas has improved. But it's a slow build right now, it could still go wrong.
Philly really needs to get something for Noel and Okafor. Stop sitting on the pot before you get stuck eating ****.
It's better in Philly than it was, but they still have a long way to go.
Crazy finish to that Sixers win. Philly up 4 with 5.5 seconds, no timeouts for Denver. Denver inbounds it 3/4 of the court and Embiid almost steals it, but then idiotically fouls Nokic on a 3 with 3.0 seconds left. Nokic makes the first 2 and then misses the next, and Denver gets the rebound ... the Nuggets SG has a clean look on a 5 foot bank shot, but shoots short ... meanwhile the scorekeepers stops the clock with 1.9 seconds left for at least 1.5 seconds, giving the Nuggets an extra tip attempt ... they miss two and Sixers win.Even after replay, I still dont know where the foul was.
I noticed by replaying the play in slow motion that the clock stuck on 1.9 seconds for about a second and a half. **** kind of BS is that by the hometown scorekeeper? I have to believe had Denver tipped in the tying shot, they would have reviewed it. But, who knows. I wonder how often this kind of BS goes on.
Crazy finish to that Sixers win. Philly up 4 with 5.5 seconds, no timeouts for Denver. Denver inbounds it 3/4 of the court and Embiid almost steals it, but then idiotically fouls Nokic on a 3 with 3.0 seconds left. Nokic makes the first 2 and then misses the next, and Denver gets the rebound ... the Nuggets SG has a clean look on a 5 foot bank shot, but shoots short ... meanwhile the scorekeepers stops the clock with 1.9 seconds left for at least 1.5 seconds, giving the Nuggets an extra tip attempt ... they miss two and Sixers win.Even after replay, I still dont know where the foul was.
I noticed by replaying the play in slow motion that the clock stuck on 1.9 seconds for about a second and a half. **** kind of BS is that by the hometown scorekeeper? I have to believe had Denver tipped in the tying shot, they would have reviewed it. But, who knows. I wonder how often this kind of BS goes on.
It's amazing how the Nets seem to be in every game. Roll over already ;-)
It's amazing how the Nets seem to be in every game. Roll over already ;-)
It's amazing how the Nets seem to be in every game. Roll over already ;-)
Nets are up 6 late in the 3rd quarter.
Gordon Hayward must be so frustrated that he wants to leave Utah this summer :laugh:
Nets are up 6 late in the 3rd quarter.
Gordon Hayward must be so frustrated that he wants to leave Utah this summer :laugh:
I don't quite get the Hayward fascination around here, other than he's one of the few realistic top free agents we could get this summer.
Will it really be justified to pay him basically 20 million more than Crowder? Yeah, he's a better overall player and scorer than Crowder, but Crowder is a better defender and shooter than Hayward.
Also, it's kind of the same issue with Butler or PG - he alone won't move us into contention. We still have to upgrade the big position next to Horford. If we'd trade for Noel and still somehow have room for Hayward this summer, then I'm down for that, though I'd still prefer trading for Butler or PG.
However, I don't think Hayward alone moves the needle much for us, and at the cost it will take to sign him, I'm not sure that he justifiably deserves that contract from us. If we don't upgrade our other big position somehow, then I'd probably rather pay Milsap that kind of money due to him playing a position of need for us, even with how much older than Hayward he is.
Go Boston Jazz. Beat the Nets.
The value of the Nets pick is peaking right as the trade deadline approaches. Combine that with the talent at the top of this draft, and things should get interesting soon.
The value of the Nets pick is peaking right as the trade deadline approaches. Combine that with the talent at the top of this draft, and things should get interesting soon.
This 100%. It sure opens up the options for us. I kind of hope we keep the pick, but that might not be the best thing for the team.
There is not a single team in the Western Conference with fewer than 11 wins. That's three games ahead of the Nets. Even better, there are three teams with 11 wins and only four wins separate last place in the west and the eighth freakin' playoff spot. Yes, eight teams are within four wins of each other. That's parity and, hopefully, it means that they will each win enough games against each other to be mediocre, but still better than BKN.
Honestly the further this college season goes, the less impressed with this draft I am. I really thought it was going to be more special, but top prospects like Dennis "T-Rex" Johnson Jr. and Malik Monk look like shoot first defensive liabilities. Josh Jackson looks pretty good, but he's not like a once in a generation talent by any means. I am basically Fultz, Jackson or bust right now.
https://twitter.com/MiamiHEAT/status/816827216256323589?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
Not good news for the Brooklyn pick. Winslow likely out for the rest of season after shoulder surgery.
With Riley's virtual admission that they'll be tanking the rest of the year, this Winslow injury will just make it easier for them.
They're the third worst record in the league right now at 10-26. Brooklyn is at 8-25 at the moment. I worry about them down the stretch. I think Philly should stay slightly ahead of Brooklyn for most of the season, especially after Simmons comes back. But I could see the Heat rivaling the Nets for futility at the end of the season, especially if they trade off Dragic.
https://twitter.com/MiamiHEAT/status/816827216256323589?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
Not good news for the Brooklyn pick. Winslow likely out for the rest of season after shoulder surgery.
With Riley's virtual admission that they'll be tanking the rest of the year, this Winslow injury will just make it easier for them.
They're the third worst record in the league right now at 10-26. Brooklyn is at 8-25 at the moment. I worry about them down the stretch. I think Philly should stay slightly ahead of Brooklyn for most of the season, especially after Simmons comes back. But I could see the Heat rivaling the Nets for futility at the end of the season, especially if they trade off Dragic.
https://twitter.com/MiamiHEAT/status/816827216256323589?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
Not good news for the Brooklyn pick. Winslow likely out for the rest of season after shoulder surgery.
With Riley's virtual admission that they'll be tanking the rest of the year, this Winslow injury will just make it easier for them.
They're the third worst record in the league right now at 10-26. Brooklyn is at 8-25 at the moment. I worry about them down the stretch. I think Philly should stay slightly ahead of Brooklyn for most of the season, especially after Simmons comes back. But I could see the Heat rivaling the Nets for futility at the end of the season, especially if they trade off Dragic.
The good news is that the Nets are just a terrible team already. And I fully expect Lopez to be traded by the deadline, which will far outweigh the loss of Winslow.
https://twitter.com/MiamiHEAT/status/816827216256323589?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
Not good news for the Brooklyn pick. Winslow likely out for the rest of season after shoulder surgery.
With Riley's virtual admission that they'll be tanking the rest of the year, this Winslow injury will just make it easier for them.
They're the third worst record in the league right now at 10-26. Brooklyn is at 8-25 at the moment. I worry about them down the stretch. I think Philly should stay slightly ahead of Brooklyn for most of the season, especially after Simmons comes back. But I could see the Heat rivaling the Nets for futility at the end of the season, especially if they trade off Dragic.
The good news is that the Nets are just a terrible team already. And I fully expect Lopez to be traded by the deadline, which will far outweigh the loss of Winslow.
https://twitter.com/MiamiHEAT/status/816827216256323589?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
Not good news for the Brooklyn pick. Winslow likely out for the rest of season after shoulder surgery.
With Riley's virtual admission that they'll be tanking the rest of the year, this Winslow injury will just make it easier for them.
They're the third worst record in the league right now at 10-26. Brooklyn is at 8-25 at the moment. I worry about them down the stretch. I think Philly should stay slightly ahead of Brooklyn for most of the season, especially after Simmons comes back. But I could see the Heat rivaling the Nets for futility at the end of the season, especially if they trade off Dragic.
I'm not worried at all. Not only are the Nets terrible, but this draft is ludicrously deep. All we need is a top-7 pick.
https://twitter.com/MiamiHEAT/status/816827216256323589?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
Not good news for the Brooklyn pick. Winslow likely out for the rest of season after shoulder surgery.
With Riley's virtual admission that they'll be tanking the rest of the year, this Winslow injury will just make it easier for them.
They're the third worst record in the league right now at 10-26. Brooklyn is at 8-25 at the moment. I worry about them down the stretch. I think Philly should stay slightly ahead of Brooklyn for most of the season, especially after Simmons comes back. But I could see the Heat rivaling the Nets for futility at the end of the season, especially if they trade off Dragic.
I'm not worried at all. Not only are the Nets terrible, but this draft is ludicrously deep. All we need is a top-7 pick.
I'm more worried about the trade value of it. If we have any chance of trading it before the deadline, we'd need them to be leading the tankathon race, or at least right there close to it.
I'm also afraid that as the college season goes on there will be a clear consensus cut-off, and we'll end up right on the other side of that cut-off, similar to this past summer's two-man draft. I pretty much guarantee that a trade would've got done if we had the second pick instead of the third pick, let alone the first pick.
https://twitter.com/MiamiHEAT/status/816827216256323589?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
Not good news for the Brooklyn pick. Winslow likely out for the rest of season after shoulder surgery.
With Riley's virtual admission that they'll be tanking the rest of the year, this Winslow injury will just make it easier for them.
They're the third worst record in the league right now at 10-26. Brooklyn is at 8-25 at the moment. I worry about them down the stretch. I think Philly should stay slightly ahead of Brooklyn for most of the season, especially after Simmons comes back. But I could see the Heat rivaling the Nets for futility at the end of the season, especially if they trade off Dragic.
I'm not worried at all. Not only are the Nets terrible, but this draft is ludicrously deep. All we need is a top-7 pick.
I'm more worried about the trade value of it. If we have any chance of trading it before the deadline, we'd need them to be leading the tankathon race, or at least right there close to it.
I'm also afraid that as the college season goes on there will be a clear consensus cut-off, and we'll end up right on the other side of that cut-off, similar to this past summer's two-man draft. I pretty much guarantee that a trade would've got done if we had the second pick instead of the third pick, let alone the first pick.
Then you're irrationally worried. The Nets will have a bottom 3 record, and likely bottom 2, by the deadline. No more than 13 wins by that point.
Also, that two-player draft stuff is also nonsense. Brown already looks ahead of Ingram.
https://twitter.com/MiamiHEAT/status/816827216256323589?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
Not good news for the Brooklyn pick. Winslow likely out for the rest of season after shoulder surgery.
With Riley's virtual admission that they'll be tanking the rest of the year, this Winslow injury will just make it easier for them.
They're the third worst record in the league right now at 10-26. Brooklyn is at 8-25 at the moment. I worry about them down the stretch. I think Philly should stay slightly ahead of Brooklyn for most of the season, especially after Simmons comes back. But I could see the Heat rivaling the Nets for futility at the end of the season, especially if they trade off Dragic.
I'm not worried at all. Not only are the Nets terrible, but this draft is ludicrously deep. All we need is a top-7 pick.
I'm more worried about the trade value of it. If we have any chance of trading it before the deadline, we'd need them to be leading the tankathon race, or at least right there close to it.
I'm also afraid that as the college season goes on there will be a clear consensus cut-off, and we'll end up right on the other side of that cut-off, similar to this past summer's two-man draft. I pretty much guarantee that a trade would've got done if we had the second pick instead of the third pick, let alone the first pick.
If we get the first round pick, I see Ainge trading it for a superstar.we're definitely getting a first round pick ;)
If we get the first round pick, I see Ainge trading it for a superstar.
If we get the first round pick, I see Ainge trading it for a superstar.
Yeah, I can't imagine us keeping it, especially the number one pick. There's so much allure and hyperbole surrounding these players and prospects around the draft that the number one pick is absolutely worth way more than its value. And with how much allure it has, we could get a Boogie/Butler/George type without adding hardly anything else to it, similar to the Love deal.
If we get the first round pick, I see Ainge trading it for a superstar.
Yeah, I can't imagine us keeping it, especially the number one pick. There's so much allure and hyperbole surrounding these players and prospects around the draft that the number one pick is absolutely worth way more than its value. And with how much allure it has, we could get a Boogie/Butler/George type without adding hardly anything else to it, similar to the Love deal.
If we get the first round pick, I see Ainge trading it for a superstar.
Yeah, I can't imagine us keeping it, especially the number one pick. There's so much allure and hyperbole surrounding these players and prospects around the draft that the number one pick is absolutely worth way more than its value. And with how much allure it has, we could get a Boogie/Butler/George type without adding hardly anything else to it, similar to the Love deal.
Would you rather have 14 years of Fultz or 1 year of Boogie? Of course, it's not quite that simple, but the new CBA highly incentivizes drafting your own talent.
If we get the first round pick, I see Ainge trading it for a superstar.
Yeah, I can't imagine us keeping it, especially the number one pick. There's so much allure and hyperbole surrounding these players and prospects around the draft that the number one pick is absolutely worth way more than its value. And with how much allure it has, we could get a Boogie/Butler/George type without adding hardly anything else to it, similar to the Love deal.
Would you rather have 14 years of Fultz or 1 year of Boogie? Of course, it's not quite that simple, but the new CBA highly incentivizes drafting your own talent.
That is not what the new CBA does. People really need to calm down over this. Furthermore, the new CBA will expire before any 2017 draftee has a chance to be eligible for the special designated veteran max deal. So you're really putting the cart before the horse in this instance.
If we get the first round pick, I see Ainge trading it for a superstar.
Yeah, I can't imagine us keeping it, especially the number one pick. There's so much allure and hyperbole surrounding these players and prospects around the draft that the number one pick is absolutely worth way more than its value. And with how much allure it has, we could get a Boogie/Butler/George type without adding hardly anything else to it, similar to the Love deal.
Would you rather have 14 years of Fultz or 1 year of Boogie? Of course, it's not quite that simple, but the new CBA highly incentivizes drafting your own talent.
If we get the first round pick, I see Ainge trading it for a superstar.
Yeah, I can't imagine us keeping it, especially the number one pick. There's so much allure and hyperbole surrounding these players and prospects around the draft that the number one pick is absolutely worth way more than its value. And with how much allure it has, we could get a Boogie/Butler/George type without adding hardly anything else to it, similar to the Love deal.
Would you rather have 14 years of Fultz or 1 year of Boogie? Of course, it's not quite that simple, but the new CBA highly incentivizes drafting your own talent.
That is not what the new CBA does. People really need to calm down over this. Furthermore, the new CBA will expire before any 2017 draftee has a chance to be eligible for the special designated veteran max deal. So you're really putting the cart before the horse in this instance.
If we get the first round pick, I see Ainge trading it for a superstar.
Yeah, I can't imagine us keeping it, especially the number one pick. There's so much allure and hyperbole surrounding these players and prospects around the draft that the number one pick is absolutely worth way more than its value. And with how much allure it has, we could get a Boogie/Butler/George type without adding hardly anything else to it, similar to the Love deal.
Would you rather have 14 years of Fultz or 1 year of Boogie? Of course, it's not quite that simple, but the new CBA highly incentivizes drafting your own talent.
Well, it'd be 5 years of Boogie, not one, because he's not getting traded without any assurances, let alone if it's this summer and the possibility of an extend-and-trade is there.
So probably Boogie, if I'm going to be honest, because right now teams simply don't have an answer for him. The top 3 teams in the league (GS, CLE, SAS) literally have 0 answer for someone like Boogie, and the closest they come is 6'9" 238 lbs Tristan Thompson for 6'11" 270 lbs Demarcus Cousins. And we've all seen how effective going big is against the new small-ball trend.
Boogie is a legit MVP contender in Boston, which is something that you can't say about Fultz for quite some time, if ever.
If we get the first round pick, I see Ainge trading it for a superstar.
Yeah, I can't imagine us keeping it, especially the number one pick. There's so much allure and hyperbole surrounding these players and prospects around the draft that the number one pick is absolutely worth way more than its value. And with how much allure it has, we could get a Boogie/Butler/George type without adding hardly anything else to it, similar to the Love deal.
Would you rather have 14 years of Fultz or 1 year of Boogie? Of course, it's not quite that simple, but the new CBA highly incentivizes drafting your own talent.
Well, it'd be 5 years of Boogie, not one, because he's not getting traded without any assurances, let alone if it's this summer and the possibility of an extend-and-trade is there.
So probably Boogie, if I'm going to be honest, because right now teams simply don't have an answer for him. The top 3 teams in the league (GS, CLE, SAS) literally have 0 answer for someone like Boogie, and the closest they come is 6'9" 238 lbs Tristan Thompson for 6'11" 270 lbs Demarcus Cousins. And we've all seen how effective going big is against the new small-ball trend.
Boogie is a legit MVP contender in Boston, which is something that you can't say about Fultz for quite some time, if ever.
I agree that I like Boogie. Like Durant, he should and will be able to pick which team he signs with next. I don't think a short term trade will affect his decision.
If he wants to sign in Boston, he will. If he wants to sign in LA, he will. The choice will be his.
Knowing this, I don't see a reason to trade for him. In fact, wouldn't Boogie rather go to a team with 3 top picks under the age of 21 who might eventually become stars? Trading such picks doesn't make Boston more enticing for the big man.
If we get the first round pick, I see Ainge trading it for a superstar.
Yeah, I can't imagine us keeping it, especially the number one pick. There's so much allure and hyperbole surrounding these players and prospects around the draft that the number one pick is absolutely worth way more than its value. And with how much allure it has, we could get a Boogie/Butler/George type without adding hardly anything else to it, similar to the Love deal.
Would you rather have 14 years of Fultz or 1 year of Boogie? Of course, it's not quite that simple, but the new CBA highly incentivizes drafting your own talent.
Well, it'd be 5 years of Boogie, not one, because he's not getting traded without any assurances, let alone if it's this summer and the possibility of an extend-and-trade is there.
So probably Boogie, if I'm going to be honest, because right now teams simply don't have an answer for him. The top 3 teams in the league (GS, CLE, SAS) literally have 0 answer for someone like Boogie, and the closest they come is 6'9" 238 lbs Tristan Thompson for 6'11" 270 lbs Demarcus Cousins. And we've all seen how effective going big is against the new small-ball trend.
Boogie is a legit MVP contender in Boston, which is something that you can't say about Fultz for quite some time, if ever.
Lol, Kings go on a 23-2 run vs. Miami, turning a 19-point deficit into a 2-point lead in under 5 minutes of game action.
Miami is doing everything it can to give this game away. ::)
Miami is doing everything it can to give this game away. ::)
Tyler Johnson connects on the ugliest go-ahead possession I've ever seen!
Thursday's Nets watch:
Brooklyn at Indiana
Phoenix at Dallas (both 11 win teams)
This is getting really fun. I think it should be mandatory for Danny to trade for another team's pick EVERY year. That way I have 2 favorite teams ... twice the fun. ;)
not happy they play miami 3 times before 2/10
not happy they play miami 3 times before 2/10
Maybe it's best to play them before then with the trade deadline on Feb 23rd and Whiteside due back soon.
RHJ out with a hip injury for the Pacers game, assume no Lin either.
not happy they play miami 3 times before 2/10
Maybe it's best to play them before then with the trade deadline on Feb 23rd and Whiteside due back soon.
RHJ out with a hip injury for the Pacers game, assume no Lin either.
Followed by a game against Cleveland tomorrow night. Let's hope KLove's tummy is feeling better.
Mike
What do you know, Nets down 1 late in the first half at Indy. Never any stress free games. LOL
My head agrees with you. My heart just can't help but follow each game closely and stress just a bit if an expected loss for the Nets isn't in the bag. I'm a glutton for punishment.What do you know, Nets down 1 late in the first half at Indy. Never any stress free games. LOL
Pacers are pretty mediocre this year, that being said they (the pacers) are up 7 at the half. If you worry every time they are in a close game you will drive yourself crazy! They are decent at hanging around usually fade hard in the second half and 4th quarter. Part of this is probably their style of play. Harder to launch tons of 3's at a decent percentage when the legs are dead.
Glad the Nets got their routine loss today. A little concerned about the Cavs game tomorrow with LeBron and Love having illness problems and Kyrie missing the last few games with a hamstring injury.
Glad the Nets got their routine loss today. A little concerned about the Cavs game tomorrow with LeBron and Love having illness problems and Kyrie missing the last few games with a hamstring injury.
Looks like everyone playing for the Cavs, RHJ and Lin questionable for BKN. So far, so good.
There are 14 remaining games in January, but it looks like an uphill battle for the Nets.
Two games against CLE, two against Toronto, Houston, San Antonio. That's probably six losses.
Home and Home against NO and Miami. New Orleans is finally healthy. Maybe these four are 1-3.
Home against Philly, home against Atlanta, at Charlotte, at Minnesota are the remainders. I'm assuming 2-2.
Finally, there is room for the one "swing" game, i.e., an unexpected win. For what it's worth, the Minnesota game is the second night of a back-to-back (as are @Charlotte and @Toronto). My official prediction, which I reserve the right to change at any time, is 3-11 or 4-10. Let's split the difference and call it 3.5-10.5, a .250 winning percentage for the remainder of the month, essentially in-line with their current .235.
Mike
you guys think Miami could challenge Nets for that #1 slot? Idk how they would manage that besides faking injuries to Dragic and Whiteside, their wings are abysmal outside of Tyler Johnson, who's just solid. I think Sixers are trying to win games and see a need to put veterans around what's going to be 8 lotto pick players(if you count Stauskas) by 2018.
you guys think Miami could challenge Nets for that #1 slot? Idk how they would manage that besides faking injuries to Dragic and Whiteside, their wings are abysmal outside of Tyler Johnson, who's just solid. I think Sixers are trying to win games and see a need to put veterans around what's going to be 8 lotto pick players(if you count Stauskas) by 2018.
Anything is possible, especially with Winslow out who is a starting calibar player and good defensively. However, it is not insignificant that the Heat already have a 3 win lead on them. 3 wins isn't huge when you are talking about teams fighting for playoff seeds and they are winning 45-50 games. However we are more than two months into the season and the Nets have 8, meaning it could be before the end of January before they get more than 11 wins and Miami will have plenty of chances to pick up wins during that period. The Heat play Brooklyn twice the end of this month so that will be significant.
embrace the tank.
LOL all that young talent, and Minny still sucks. Epic meltdown at the end. They gave up an 11-0 run to end up losing the game by two.
They should comfortably stay ahead of the Nets, but it still would've been nice to get a win for them to increase their lead over the Nets.
LOL all that young talent, and Minny still sucks. Epic meltdown at the end. They gave up an 11-0 run to end up losing the game by two.
They should comfortably stay ahead of the Nets, but it still would've been nice to get a win for them to increase their lead over the Nets.
With all that athleticism and giant vertical, Wiggins sure doesn't grab many rebounds or block shots/play defense.
Nope. He's not that good. Isn't someone like Avery Bradley much better than Wiggins? I think Bradley would help a team win games a lot more a guy like Wiggins. By the way Wiggins is the premium brand Ricky Davis, not Jimmy Butler.LOL all that young talent, and Minny still sucks. Epic meltdown at the end. They gave up an 11-0 run to end up losing the game by two.
They should comfortably stay ahead of the Nets, but it still would've been nice to get a win for them to increase their lead over the Nets.
With all that athleticism and giant vertical, Wiggins sure doesn't grab many rebounds or block shots/play defense.
Nope. He's not that good. Isn't someone like Avery Bradley much better than Wiggins? I think Bradley would help a team win games a lot more a guy like Wiggins. By the way Wiggins is the premium brand Ricky Davis, not Jimmy Butler.LOL all that young talent, and Minny still sucks. Epic meltdown at the end. They gave up an 11-0 run to end up losing the game by two.
They should comfortably stay ahead of the Nets, but it still would've been nice to get a win for them to increase their lead over the Nets.
With all that athleticism and giant vertical, Wiggins sure doesn't grab many rebounds or block shots/play defense.
Anyone else watching this game? Nerlens cannot guard Brook to save his lifeI just scrolled through the game thread on Liberty Ballers and found a few gems.
nerlens is the best player ever and Edited. Profanity and masked profanity are against forum rules and may result in discipline. celticsblog
A Celtics message board was talking about getting Nerlens for Rozier and Tyler Zeller this morning LOL
I would burn down Jerry Colangelos nursing Home if BC makes that trade
Anyone else watching this game? Nerlens cannot guard Brook to save his life
Anyone else watching this game? Nerlens cannot guard Brook to save his lifeI just scrolled through the game thread on Liberty Ballers and found a few gems.Quotenerlens is the best player ever and **** celticsblogQuoteA Celtics message board was talking about getting Nerlens for Rozier and Tyler Zeller this morning LOL
I would burn down Jerry Colangelos nursing Home if BC makes that trade
Lopez bullying Noel.
he is weak, so he gets bullied in the post, but as a weak side shot blocker and in pick and roll he is really quite good.Lopez bullying Noel.
If he gets abused so easily by guys like Lopez then I'm glad Ainge isn't trading for him as our defensive anchor.
Anyone else watching this game? Nerlens cannot guard Brook to save his lifeI just scrolled through the game thread on Liberty Ballers and found a few gems.Quotenerlens is the best player ever and **** celticsblogQuoteA Celtics message board was talking about getting Nerlens for Rozier and Tyler Zeller this morning LOL
I would burn down Jerry Colangelos nursing Home if BC makes that trade
Ha they're so salty. Nerlens is the 5th best player on the second worst team in the NBA. The only reason they don't want Rozier is that they might actually win a couple extra games
This thing is going to be a ridiculously valuable trade chip. We've never actually had a draft pick in the first tier of any given draft throughout this rebuild. Tier 1 was 3 players deep in 2014, we had #6. Tier 1 was 2 players deep in 2016, we had #3.
This year Tier 1 could be anywhere from 3~5 players. We could have #1,
it's bad enough when every win by the Nets ruins my night, its worse going to sleep tonight knowing I will wake to possibly having my day and night ruined by a very early game, i may just wake up, turn on the tv and immediately be p---ed:(
it's bad enough when every win by the Nets ruins my night, its worse going to sleep tonight knowing I will wake to possibly having my day and night ruined by a very early game, i may just wake up, turn on the tv and immediately be p---ed:(
Hopefully, this will make you feel a bit better: Let's call the current 11-win teams (Dallas, Miami, Minnesota, Phoenix) the "cohort." Over the next ten games, Dallas has four against other "cohort" teams, Minnesota has three, Phoenix has two and Miami has one. In other words, somebody has to win those games and push their win totals up.
Mike
I am thrilled about the way the Nets have panned out...but we have to remember this:Anything in the top 5 and Im satisfied.
Worst record chances:
1st pick - 25%
2nd pick - 21.5%
3rd pick - 17.8%
4th pick - 35.7%
Again, I'm ecstatic about the season's development ...just saying...we should be prepared.
I am thrilled about the way the Nets have panned out...but we have to remember this:Anything in the top 5 and Im satisfied.
Worst record chances:
1st pick - 25%
2nd pick - 21.5%
3rd pick - 17.8%
4th pick - 35.7%
Again, I'm ecstatic about the season's development ...just saying...we should be prepared.
I am thrilled about the way the Nets have panned out...but we have to remember this:Anything in the top 5 and Im satisfied.
Worst record chances:
1st pick - 25%
2nd pick - 21.5%
3rd pick - 17.8%
4th pick - 35.7%
Again, I'm ecstatic about the season's development ...just saying...we should be prepared.
Really think Brook Lopez will be dealt by the deadline---The Nets need First Round Picks Desperately...I think they have no choice.
I am thrilled about the way the Nets have panned out...but we have to remember this:Anything in the top 5 and Im satisfied.
Worst record chances:
1st pick - 25%
2nd pick - 21.5%
3rd pick - 17.8%
4th pick - 35.7%
Again, I'm ecstatic about the season's development ...just saying...we should be prepared.
Easy to say on the surface and I don't disagree with the overall concept of being satisfied with a top 5 pick; however, if the Nets finish last and we hear Adam Silver call the Cs name with the 4th pick, I think we will all be a little disappointed.
Great developments as far as next year's draft goes. I think the depth of the draft is giving perennial tankers the freedom to try to establish a winning (rather than tanking) culture. The Sixers are looking good for 2 picks right now. The Lakers and Sixers are starting to look like teams that think they can win games. If this trend continues, then all is good -- Lakers won't get another #2 (of course I just assured that they will) and Philly may end up with 2 picks in the 7-12 range -- good for them, but not as good as it could have been. I'd guess they'll try to trade up in that scenario.
Nets are creating some cushion.
Great developments as far as next year's draft goes. I think the depth of the draft is giving perennial tankers the freedom to try to establish a winning (rather than tanking) culture. The Sixers are looking good for 2 picks right now. The Lakers and Sixers are starting to look like teams that think they can win games. If this trend continues, then all is good -- Lakers won't get another #2 (of course I just assured that they will) and Philly may end up with 2 picks in the 7-12 range -- good for them, but not as good as it could have been. I'd guess they'll try to trade up in that scenario.
Nets are creating some cushion.
I was going to mention it would be great to see Philly win enough games where they don't get a top 5 pick for the simple reason they are in our division. I'd rather see us, Dallas, Phoenix, Minny, and even Miami get those top 5 picks.
What I learned today: I knew that we only had a 25% chance of getting the first pick even if the Nets are the worst team, but I didn't realize that our most likely position is 4th, which is a 36% chance. Ouch:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NBA_draft_lottery
Mike
Right.What I learned today: I knew that we only had a 25% chance of getting the first pick even if the Nets are the worst team, but I didn't realize that our most likely position is 4th, which is a 36% chance. Ouch:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NBA_draft_lottery
Mike
Sort of. This would mean there is a 64% chance the C's would get top 3.
What I learned today: I knew that we only had a 25% chance of getting the first pick even if the Nets are the worst team, but I didn't realize that our most likely position is 4th, which is a 36% chance. Ouch:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NBA_draft_lottery
Mike
Sort of. This would mean there is a 64% chance the C's would get top 3.
On a night in which neither Brooklyn nor the Celtics are playing, we are still guaranteed a win, as Dallas and Minnesota square off.
Mike
Seems like Dallas could be in Tank Mode now, or very soon.
Miami definitely is, unfortunately. :-\
eh, ben simmons might start playing this month, and brook lopez will probably be dealt. We will be fineSeems like Dallas could be in Tank Mode now, or very soon.
Miami definitely is, unfortunately. :-\
Philly are still the big worry IMO.
One embiid tweak away from being horribad.
eh, ben simmons might start playing this month, and brook lopez will probably be dealt. We will be fineSeems like Dallas could be in Tank Mode now, or very soon.
Miami definitely is, unfortunately. :-\
Philly are still the big worry IMO.
One embiid tweak away from being horribad.
eh, ben simmons might start playing this month, and brook lopez will probably be dealt. We will be fineSeems like Dallas could be in Tank Mode now, or very soon.
Miami definitely is, unfortunately. :-\
Philly are still the big worry IMO.
One embiid tweak away from being horribad.
Simmons didn't have Embiid at LSU.eh, ben simmons might start playing this month, and brook lopez will probably be dealt. We will be fineSeems like Dallas could be in Tank Mode now, or very soon.
Miami definitely is, unfortunately. :-\
Philly are still the big worry IMO.
One embiid tweak away from being horribad.
I don't understand why people think Ben Simmons can turn an NBA team around. He couldn't do squat with his college team. Until he learns to shoot a jump shot, which may never happen, he won't do anything in the NBA.
Seems like Dallas could be in Tank Mode now, or very soon.
Miami definitely is, unfortunately. :-\
Philly are still the big worry IMO.
One embiid tweak away from being horribad.
eh, ben simmons might start playing this month, and brook lopez will probably be dealt. We will be fineSeems like Dallas could be in Tank Mode now, or very soon.
Miami definitely is, unfortunately. :-\
Philly are still the big worry IMO.
One embiid tweak away from being horribad.
I don't understand why people think Ben Simmons can turn an NBA team around. He couldn't do squat with his college team. Until he learns to shoot a jump shot, which may never happen, he won't do anything in the NBA.
I feel Simmons can become a Grant Hill/ Pippen type point foward. I wouldn't be him in the level of a LeBron James in terms of game control and impact. But Hill and Pippen is still very good enough to add 6 wins easy as they had good rookie impacts on their clubs.eh, ben simmons might start playing this month, and brook lopez will probably be dealt. We will be fineSeems like Dallas could be in Tank Mode now, or very soon.
Miami definitely is, unfortunately. :-\
Philly are still the big worry IMO.
One embiid tweak away from being horribad.
I don't understand why people think Ben Simmons can turn an NBA team around. He couldn't do squat with his college team. Until he learns to shoot a jump shot, which may never happen, he won't do anything in the NBA.
Simmons is a phenomenal passer and play maker so they are going to play him at pointguard. Just because he needs to work on his shot doesn't make him bad. He was drafted #1 overall and is going to be more Lebron than Anthony Bennett.
I feel Simmons can become a Grant Hill/ Pippen type point foward. I wouldn't be him in the level of a LeBron James in terms of game control and impact. But Hill and Pippen is still very good enough to add 6 wins easy as they had good rookie impacts on their clubs.eh, ben simmons might start playing this month, and brook lopez will probably be dealt. We will be fineSeems like Dallas could be in Tank Mode now, or very soon.
Miami definitely is, unfortunately. :-\
Philly are still the big worry IMO.
One embiid tweak away from being horribad.
I don't understand why people think Ben Simmons can turn an NBA team around. He couldn't do squat with his college team. Until he learns to shoot a jump shot, which may never happen, he won't do anything in the NBA.
Simmons is a phenomenal passer and play maker so they are going to play him at pointguard. Just because he needs to work on his shot doesn't make him bad. He was drafted #1 overall and is going to be more Lebron than Anthony Bennett.
On another note, I don't think they will play Simmons. Let him be a "Rookie " next year. Let him get 100% and confident in that health.
When is Simmons scheduled to start playing?Simmons just started practicing with the team. I wouldn't expect him to be back until February and then he'll be on a minutes restriction. So I wouldn't expect him to have a significant effect on their win total.
Quincy Acy played one minute for them tonight and was a +7. If he gets more playing time, they are going to be a powerhouse.
Sixers beat the Knicks on a LAST SECOND SHOT LOL 98-97 ;DAwesome. They have won 4 of their last 5.
Sixers beat the Knicks on a LAST SECOND SHOT LOL 98-97 ;D
Hopefully Philly continues to bench Okafor. He kills them whenever he's on the floor and giving Noel his minutes gives them an above average NBA caliber center rotation.
Hopefully Philly continues to bench Okafor. He kills them whenever he's on the floor and giving Noel his minutes gives them an above average NBA caliber center rotation.
Oh...I thought Jahlil was hurt.
Hopefully Philly continues to bench Okafor. He kills them whenever he's on the floor and giving Noel his minutes gives them an above average NBA caliber center rotation.
Oh...I thought Jahlil was hurt.
Nope. 3 straight DNP-CD.
Noel is being showcased. Doubt either are in the Sixers long-term plans, but they have to trade Noel now or lose him for nothing.Hopefully Philly continues to bench Okafor. He kills them whenever he's on the floor and giving Noel his minutes gives them an above average NBA caliber center rotation.
Oh...I thought Jahlil was hurt.
Philly just 7 games out of playoffs!!! LB33's fun bits must be buzzing like a beehive
Philly just 7 games out of playoffs!!! LB33's fun bits must be buzzing like a beehive
Anthony Davis is questionable tonight (hip) for game vs. Brooklyn. That situation will obviously play a major factor in that game.
76ers win, Minny wins, and Brooklyn are now 3 games clear with the worst record.
Miami will be a threat but Philly are 5-5 in their last 10 games. New York are 2-8 in their last 10 but they are too good to fall to BRK territory.
#1 pick here we come baby.
Brooklyn is almost at the point where they wont be able to win enough games to catch the 2,3,4th place teams. If Miami, Dallas, and the Sixers each win one more game before the Nets do it will be very hard for the Nets to catch them basically assuring the Cs pick is top 4
Brooklyn is almost at the point where they wont be able to win enough games to catch the 2,3,4th place teams. If Miami, Dallas, and the Sixers each win one more game before the Nets do it will be very hard for the Nets to catch them basically assuring the Cs pick is top 4
i expect/fear miami to tank all 3 games they play against bkln in the next 5 weeks, hope your right
The Heat have 3 games against the Nets so they could close the gap just losing those. Teams that are going to tank do need to start soon if they hope to close the gap.Brooklyn is almost at the point where they wont be able to win enough games to catch the 2,3,4th place teams. If Miami, Dallas, and the Sixers each win one more game before the Nets do it will be very hard for the Nets to catch them basically assuring the Cs pick is top 4
i expect/fear miami to tank all 3 games they play against bkln in the next 5 weeks, hope your right
Well lets look at the odds here. Brooklyn has won 8 games so far. Miami is currently at 11. If Miami moves to 12 before Brooklyn gets to 9 you are basically talking about Brooklyn having to win at a much higher clip to even tie these other teams let alone pass them. A 4 game lead is pretty big.
I see our New Orleans affiliate is playing the Nets tonight... how are they doing?
I see our New Orleans affiliate is playing the Nets tonight... how are they doing?
Nets up 6 at the half. AD is out for NO with a hip injury, which makes them a pretty bad team.
Nets absolutely collapsing down the stretch here lol
They've been so bad that it looks like they're purposefully tanking lol
wow. it's like bkn is tanking for us on purpose!
aww didn't see that soz. yeah jp lol
Mavs at Suns later ... win/win game.
Nets absolutely collapsing down the stretch here lol
They've been so bad that it looks like they're purposefully tanking lol
The Boston Pelicans WIN !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
wow. it's like bkn is tanking for us on purpose!
aww didn't see that soz. yeah jp lol
Seriously, they were so bad they looked to be tanking on purpose lol It's great!
We are all so excited...
Can you imagine how Nets fans feel right now? LOL.
crap happens. we didn't deserve what happened with Bias or Reggie yet it did. we really didn't deserve to have Reggie's salary count against our cap either. we also didn't deserve KG's injury in 2009 nor Perk's injury in the 2010 finals.We are all so excited...
Can you imagine how Nets fans feel right now? LOL.
As much as I am enjoying their losing, I feel really bad for them. Their fans did nothing to deserve this.
Knicks fans, Philly fans, Lakers fans, Cavaliers fans and Warriors fans, I'd be gloating.
Here I'm just thrilled for us and genuinely feel bad for them.
crap happens. we didn't deserve what happened with Bias or Reggie yet it did. we really didn't deserve to have Reggie's salary count against our cap either. we also didn't deserve KG's injury in 2009 nor Perk's injury in the 2010 finals.We are all so excited...
Can you imagine how Nets fans feel right now? LOL.
As much as I am enjoying their losing, I feel really bad for them. Their fans did nothing to deserve this.
Knicks fans, Philly fans, Lakers fans, Cavaliers fans and Warriors fans, I'd be gloating.
Here I'm just thrilled for us and genuinely feel bad for them.
what they're enduring now is self inflicted by their management.
We are all so excited...
Can you imagine how Nets fans feel right now? LOL.
As much as I am enjoying their losing, I feel really bad for them. Their fans did nothing to deserve this.
Knicks fans, Philly fans, Lakers fans, Cavaliers fans and Warriors fans, I'd be gloating.
Here I'm just thrilled for us and genuinely feel bad for them.
We are all so excited...
Can you imagine how Nets fans feel right now? LOL.
As much as I am enjoying their losing, I feel really bad for them. Their fans did nothing to deserve this.
Knicks fans, Philly fans, Lakers fans, Cavaliers fans and Warriors fans, I'd be gloating.
Here I'm just thrilled for us and genuinely feel bad for them.
We are all so excited...
Can you imagine how Nets fans feel right now? LOL.
As much as I am enjoying their losing, I feel really bad for them. Their fans did nothing to deserve this.
Knicks fans, Philly fans, Lakers fans, Cavaliers fans and Warriors fans, I'd be gloating.
Here I'm just thrilled for us and genuinely feel bad for them.
I live in Brooklyn and work a 5 minute walk from the Barclays center, let me break down Nets fans for you.
75% People who want to wear black jerseys and hats.
20% Band wagoners who wanted to get in at the bottom floor of what looked to be a competitive franchise before Dwill's attitude and Lopez's foot.
5% Real fans who used to watch Kmart and Kidd.
We are all so excited...
Can you imagine how Nets fans feel right now? LOL.
Minny up big in the middle of the 4th, too, though as bad as they are down the stretch there's no telling if they'll win or not.
Philly won too. Don't look now, they're 5-5 in their last 10 games and on a franchise record 3 game win streak.They are 8-7 since December 8th.
Philly won too. Don't look now, they're 5-5 in their last 10 games and on a franchise record 3 game win streak.They are 8-7 since December 8th.
Philly won too. Don't look now, they're 5-5 in their last 10 games and on a franchise record 3 game win streak.They are 8-7 since December 8th.
And they still have the 5th-worst record in the NBA. Quality team.
Meanwhile, the Celtics are 12-3 in their last 15, but keep celebrating Philly's month of mediocrity after 3+ years of embarrassing basketball.
The team we have to worry about are the Heat. They are driving a full on tank at about 90 miles per hour, oh and the Suns just stink.
The team we have to worry about are the Heat. They are driving a full on tank at about 90 miles per hour, oh and the Suns just stink.
Obviously LB33 is right that you can't win without a superstar. But if you suck too hard, you risk losing him to FA. If cousins extends then I'll eat my words but I don think he will. Guys ganging up on scrappy defense first teams with mid-career guys is the new norm..So the Sixers will have 5 more seasons after this one to not suck too hard before Embiid becomes a UFA. Don't think they have much to worry about other than Embiid's health.
8-7 with Embiid limited to 28 minutes per game and Simmons yet to suit up.Philly won too. Don't look now, they're 5-5 in their last 10 games and on a franchise record 3 game win streak.They are 8-7 since December 8th.
And they still have the 5th-worst record in the NBA. Quality team.
Meanwhile, the Celtics are 12-3 in their last 15, but keep celebrating Philly's month of mediocrity after 3+ years of embarrassing basketball.
8-7 with Embiid limited to 28 minutes per game and Simmons yet to suit up.Philly won too. Don't look now, they're 5-5 in their last 10 games and on a franchise record 3 game win streak.They are 8-7 since December 8th.
And they still have the 5th-worst record in the NBA. Quality team.
Meanwhile, the Celtics are 12-3 in their last 15, but keep celebrating Philly's month of mediocrity after 3+ years of embarrassing basketball.
8-7 with Embiid limited to 28 minutes per game and Simmons yet to suit up.Philly won too. Don't look now, they're 5-5 in their last 10 games and on a franchise record 3 game win streak.They are 8-7 since December 8th.
And they still have the 5th-worst record in the NBA. Quality team.
Meanwhile, the Celtics are 12-3 in their last 15, but keep celebrating Philly's month of mediocrity after 3+ years of embarrassing basketball.
8 wins over the 20/20 Hornets and 6 other non-playoff teams in the:
Knicks
Nets x 2
TWolves
Nuggets
Pistons
Pelicans
Truly "impressive." ::)
if you guys aren't watching Embiid right now you are missing out on the most entertaining player we've seen in years.8-7 with Embiid limited to 28 minutes per game and Simmons yet to suit up.Philly won too. Don't look now, they're 5-5 in their last 10 games and on a franchise record 3 game win streak.They are 8-7 since December 8th.
And they still have the 5th-worst record in the NBA. Quality team.
Meanwhile, the Celtics are 12-3 in their last 15, but keep celebrating Philly's month of mediocrity after 3+ years of embarrassing basketball.
8 wins over the 20/20 Hornets and 6 other non-playoff teams in the:
Knicks
Nets x 2
TWolves
Nuggets
Pistons
Pelicans
Truly "impressive." ::)
Impressive for what was basically the worst team in the NBA for what like 5 years, more?
more entertaining right now Thomas or Embiid?if you guys aren't watching Embiid right now you are missing out on the most entertaining player we've seen in years.8-7 with Embiid limited to 28 minutes per game and Simmons yet to suit up.Philly won too. Don't look now, they're 5-5 in their last 10 games and on a franchise record 3 game win streak.They are 8-7 since December 8th.
And they still have the 5th-worst record in the NBA. Quality team.
Meanwhile, the Celtics are 12-3 in their last 15, but keep celebrating Philly's month of mediocrity after 3+ years of embarrassing basketball.
8 wins over the 20/20 Hornets and 6 other non-playoff teams in the:
Knicks
Nets x 2
TWolves
Nuggets
Pistons
Pelicans
Truly "impressive." ::)
Impressive for what was basically the worst team in the NBA for what like 5 years, more?
8-7 with Embiid limited to 28 minutes per game and Simmons yet to suit up.Philly won too. Don't look now, they're 5-5 in their last 10 games and on a franchise record 3 game win streak.They are 8-7 since December 8th.
And they still have the 5th-worst record in the NBA. Quality team.
Meanwhile, the Celtics are 12-3 in their last 15, but keep celebrating Philly's month of mediocrity after 3+ years of embarrassing basketball.
8 wins over the 20/20 Hornets and 6 other non-playoff teams in the:
Knicks
Nets x 2
TWolves
Nuggets
Pistons
Pelicans
Truly "impressive." ::)
Impressive for what was basically the worst team in the NBA for what like 5 years, more?
well admittedly I'm bias towards Thomas. He's amazing. But the entertainment surrounding Embiid transcends baskeball. That dude is a walking internet meme. He is legitimately hilarious. A personality like that is rare. The entire Embiid experience might be the biggest story of the season outside of Durant joining the Globetrotters.more entertaining right now Thomas or Embiid?if you guys aren't watching Embiid right now you are missing out on the most entertaining player we've seen in years.8-7 with Embiid limited to 28 minutes per game and Simmons yet to suit up.Philly won too. Don't look now, they're 5-5 in their last 10 games and on a franchise record 3 game win streak.They are 8-7 since December 8th.
And they still have the 5th-worst record in the NBA. Quality team.
Meanwhile, the Celtics are 12-3 in their last 15, but keep celebrating Philly's month of mediocrity after 3+ years of embarrassing basketball.
8 wins over the 20/20 Hornets and 6 other non-playoff teams in the:
Knicks
Nets x 2
TWolves
Nuggets
Pistons
Pelicans
Truly "impressive." ::)
Impressive for what was basically the worst team in the NBA for what like 5 years, more?
Im taking Thomas, but Embiid is a blast.
I think to a casual basketball fan, the process stuff is hilarious and he is an awesome personality, but for a big time basketball fan, Im taking a 5'9" dude dropping 28 a night and dominating 4th quarters.well admittedly I'm bias towards Thomas. He's amazing. But the entertainment surrounding Embiid transcends baskeball. That dude is a walking internet meme. He is legitimately hilarious. A personality like that is rare. The entire Embiid experience might be the biggest story of the season outside of Durant joining the Globetrotters.more entertaining right now Thomas or Embiid?if you guys aren't watching Embiid right now you are missing out on the most entertaining player we've seen in years.8-7 with Embiid limited to 28 minutes per game and Simmons yet to suit up.Philly won too. Don't look now, they're 5-5 in their last 10 games and on a franchise record 3 game win streak.They are 8-7 since December 8th.
And they still have the 5th-worst record in the NBA. Quality team.
Meanwhile, the Celtics are 12-3 in their last 15, but keep celebrating Philly's month of mediocrity after 3+ years of embarrassing basketball.
8 wins over the 20/20 Hornets and 6 other non-playoff teams in the:
Knicks
Nets x 2
TWolves
Nuggets
Pistons
Pelicans
Truly "impressive." ::)
Impressive for what was basically the worst team in the NBA for what like 5 years, more?
Im taking Thomas, but Embiid is a blast.
Might explain why Embiid has more allstar votes than Thomas.
Phoenix just beat San Antonio in Mexico City, putting them 5 wins more than the Nets. The gap keeps growing! Now if only Miami would win some more.awesome. Miami seems to be the biggest threat now. And the Lakers will probably go full-blown tank mode in an effort to keep their pick in this loaded draft.
if you guys aren't watching Embiid right now you are missing out on the most entertaining player we've seen in years.8-7 with Embiid limited to 28 minutes per game and Simmons yet to suit up.Philly won too. Don't look now, they're 5-5 in their last 10 games and on a franchise record 3 game win streak.They are 8-7 since December 8th.
And they still have the 5th-worst record in the NBA. Quality team.
Meanwhile, the Celtics are 12-3 in their last 15, but keep celebrating Philly's month of mediocrity after 3+ years of embarrassing basketball.
8 wins over the 20/20 Hornets and 6 other non-playoff teams in the:
Knicks
Nets x 2
TWolves
Nuggets
Pistons
Pelicans
Truly "impressive." ::)
Impressive for what was basically the worst team in the NBA for what like 5 years, more?
if you guys aren't watching Embiid right now you are missing out on the most entertaining player we've seen in years.8-7 with Embiid limited to 28 minutes per game and Simmons yet to suit up.Philly won too. Don't look now, they're 5-5 in their last 10 games and on a franchise record 3 game win streak.They are 8-7 since December 8th.
And they still have the 5th-worst record in the NBA. Quality team.
Meanwhile, the Celtics are 12-3 in their last 15, but keep celebrating Philly's month of mediocrity after 3+ years of embarrassing basketball.
8 wins over the 20/20 Hornets and 6 other non-playoff teams in the:
Knicks
Nets x 2
TWolves
Nuggets
Pistons
Pelicans
Truly "impressive." ::)
Impressive for what was basically the worst team in the NBA for what like 5 years, more?
While Embiid sure is talented, I'm not sure I'd agree with the adjective "most." To me, Giannis, Towns, and Porzingis are all very talented and exciting young players in their own rights.
I love the international flavor of the next generation.
Yeah like I said... the entire Embiid Experience is Next-Level entertainment that transcends just basketball. Like the Sixers having a Shirley Temple night in honor of his favorite drink... or ongoing twitter campaign to make him an all-star so he can get a date with Rihanna... or him convincing Dan Patrick he killed a Lion as a 6 year old and brought it back to his village... or him trolling Chandler Parsons on instagram... or the other day when he came out to Triple H's entrance music and spat water all over himself. The Embiid experience offers daily shenanigans (https://twitter.com/ChristianCrosby/status/819386763026296833) outside of bball and it's pretty telling that just 27 games into his NBA career he has more all-star votes over an extremely popular and relatable player in the midst of his best season helping his team get far more wins (Thomas). I haven't seen anything like this since Shaq in terms of a big man becoming this beloved this quickly.if you guys aren't watching Embiid right now you are missing out on the most entertaining player we've seen in years.8-7 with Embiid limited to 28 minutes per game and Simmons yet to suit up.Philly won too. Don't look now, they're 5-5 in their last 10 games and on a franchise record 3 game win streak.They are 8-7 since December 8th.
And they still have the 5th-worst record in the NBA. Quality team.
Meanwhile, the Celtics are 12-3 in their last 15, but keep celebrating Philly's month of mediocrity after 3+ years of embarrassing basketball.
8 wins over the 20/20 Hornets and 6 other non-playoff teams in the:
Knicks
Nets x 2
TWolves
Nuggets
Pistons
Pelicans
Truly "impressive." ::)
Impressive for what was basically the worst team in the NBA for what like 5 years, more?
While Embiid sure is talented, I'm not sure I'd agree with the adjective "most." To me, Giannis, Towns, and Porzingis are all very talented and exciting young players in their own rights.
I love the international flavor of the next generation.
Miami definitely is a threat but the Lakers are well out of striking distance with 15 wins.Phoenix just beat San Antonio in Mexico City, putting them 5 wins more than the Nets. The gap keeps growing! Now if only Miami would win some more.awesome. Miami seems to be the biggest threat now. And the Lakers will probably go full-blown tank mode in an effort to keep their pick in this loaded draft.
Yeah like I said... the entire Embiid Experience is Next-Level entertainment that transcends just basketball. Like the Sixers having a Shirley Temple night in honor of his favorite drink... or ongoing twitter campaign to make him an all-star so he can get a date with Rihanna... or him convincing Dan Patrick he killed a Lion as a 6 year old and brought it back to his village... or him trolling Chandler Parsons on instagram... or the other day when he came out to Triple H's entrance music and spat water all over himself. The Embiid experience offers daily shenanigans (https://twitter.com/ChristianCrosby/status/819386763026296833) outside of bball and it's pretty telling that just 27 games into his NBA career he has more all-star votes over an extremely popular and relatable player in the midst of his best season helping his team get far more wins (Thomas). I haven't seen anything like this since Shaq in terms of a big man becoming this beloved this quickly.if you guys aren't watching Embiid right now you are missing out on the most entertaining player we've seen in years.8-7 with Embiid limited to 28 minutes per game and Simmons yet to suit up.Philly won too. Don't look now, they're 5-5 in their last 10 games and on a franchise record 3 game win streak.They are 8-7 since December 8th.
And they still have the 5th-worst record in the NBA. Quality team.
Meanwhile, the Celtics are 12-3 in their last 15, but keep celebrating Philly's month of mediocrity after 3+ years of embarrassing basketball.
8 wins over the 20/20 Hornets and 6 other non-playoff teams in the:
Knicks
Nets x 2
TWolves
Nuggets
Pistons
Pelicans
Truly "impressive." ::)
Impressive for what was basically the worst team in the NBA for what like 5 years, more?
While Embiid sure is talented, I'm not sure I'd agree with the adjective "most." To me, Giannis, Towns, and Porzingis are all very talented and exciting young players in their own rights.
I love the international flavor of the next generation.
His on-court personality is equally bombastic. But then in the actual game, his freakish unicorn offensive ability and game-changing defensive ability are pretty incredible for the young player. You can already get a sense of how dominant he can be once he adapts to the NBA game and he's unleashed without a minutes restriction.
Yeah like I said... the entire Embiid Experience is Next-Level entertainment that transcends just basketball. Like the Sixers having a Shirley Temple night in honor of his favorite drink... or ongoing twitter campaign to make him an all-star so he can get a date with Rihanna... or him convincing Dan Patrick he killed a Lion as a 6 year old and brought it back to his village... or him trolling Chandler Parsons on instagram... or the other day when he came out to Triple H's entrance music and spat water all over himself. The Embiid experience offers daily shenanigans (https://twitter.com/ChristianCrosby/status/819386763026296833) outside of bball and it's pretty telling that just 27 games into his NBA career he has more all-star votes over an extremely popular and relatable player in the midst of his best season helping his team get far more wins (Thomas). I haven't seen anything like this since Shaq in terms of a big man becoming this beloved this quickly.if you guys aren't watching Embiid right now you are missing out on the most entertaining player we've seen in years.8-7 with Embiid limited to 28 minutes per game and Simmons yet to suit up.Philly won too. Don't look now, they're 5-5 in their last 10 games and on a franchise record 3 game win streak.They are 8-7 since December 8th.
And they still have the 5th-worst record in the NBA. Quality team.
Meanwhile, the Celtics are 12-3 in their last 15, but keep celebrating Philly's month of mediocrity after 3+ years of embarrassing basketball.
8 wins over the 20/20 Hornets and 6 other non-playoff teams in the:
Knicks
Nets x 2
TWolves
Nuggets
Pistons
Pelicans
Truly "impressive." ::)
Impressive for what was basically the worst team in the NBA for what like 5 years, more?
While Embiid sure is talented, I'm not sure I'd agree with the adjective "most." To me, Giannis, Towns, and Porzingis are all very talented and exciting young players in their own rights.
I love the international flavor of the next generation.
His on-court personality is equally bombastic. But then in the actual game, his freakish unicorn offensive ability and game-changing defensive ability are pretty incredible for the young player. You can already get a sense of how dominant he can be once he adapts to the NBA game and he's unleashed without a minutes restriction.
Yeah like I said... the entire Embiid Experience is Next-Level entertainment that transcends just basketball. Like the Sixers having a Shirley Temple night in honor of his favorite drink... or ongoing twitter campaign to make him an all-star so he can get a date with Rihanna... or him convincing Dan Patrick he killed a Lion as a 6 year old and brought it back to his village... or him trolling Chandler Parsons on instagram... or the other day when he came out to Triple H's entrance music and spat water all over himself. The Embiid experience offers daily shenanigans (https://twitter.com/ChristianCrosby/status/819386763026296833) outside of bball and it's pretty telling that just 27 games into his NBA career he has more all-star votes over an extremely popular and relatable player in the midst of his best season helping his team get far more wins (Thomas). I haven't seen anything like this since Shaq in terms of a big man becoming this beloved this quickly.if you guys aren't watching Embiid right now you are missing out on the most entertaining player we've seen in years.8-7 with Embiid limited to 28 minutes per game and Simmons yet to suit up.Philly won too. Don't look now, they're 5-5 in their last 10 games and on a franchise record 3 game win streak.They are 8-7 since December 8th.
And they still have the 5th-worst record in the NBA. Quality team.
Meanwhile, the Celtics are 12-3 in their last 15, but keep celebrating Philly's month of mediocrity after 3+ years of embarrassing basketball.
8 wins over the 20/20 Hornets and 6 other non-playoff teams in the:
Knicks
Nets x 2
TWolves
Nuggets
Pistons
Pelicans
Truly "impressive." ::)
Impressive for what was basically the worst team in the NBA for what like 5 years, more?
While Embiid sure is talented, I'm not sure I'd agree with the adjective "most." To me, Giannis, Towns, and Porzingis are all very talented and exciting young players in their own rights.
I love the international flavor of the next generation.
His on-court personality is equally bombastic. But then in the actual game, his freakish unicorn offensive ability and game-changing defensive ability are pretty incredible for the young player. You can already get a sense of how dominant he can be once he adapts to the NBA game and he's unleashed without a minutes restriction.
Yeah like I said... the entire Embiid Experience is Next-Level entertainment that transcends just basketball. Like the Sixers having a Shirley Temple night in honor of his favorite drink... or ongoing twitter campaign to make him an all-star so he can get a date with Rihanna... or him convincing Dan Patrick he killed a Lion as a 6 year old and brought it back to his village... or him trolling Chandler Parsons on instagram... or the other day when he came out to Triple H's entrance music and spat water all over himself. The Embiid experience offers daily shenanigans (https://twitter.com/ChristianCrosby/status/819386763026296833) outside of bball and it's pretty telling that just 27 games into his NBA career he has more all-star votes over an extremely popular and relatable player in the midst of his best season helping his team get far more wins (Thomas). I haven't seen anything like this since Shaq in terms of a big man becoming this beloved this quickly.if you guys aren't watching Embiid right now you are missing out on the most entertaining player we've seen in years.8-7 with Embiid limited to 28 minutes per game and Simmons yet to suit up.Philly won too. Don't look now, they're 5-5 in their last 10 games and on a franchise record 3 game win streak.They are 8-7 since December 8th.
And they still have the 5th-worst record in the NBA. Quality team.
Meanwhile, the Celtics are 12-3 in their last 15, but keep celebrating Philly's month of mediocrity after 3+ years of embarrassing basketball.
8 wins over the 20/20 Hornets and 6 other non-playoff teams in the:
Knicks
Nets x 2
TWolves
Nuggets
Pistons
Pelicans
Truly "impressive." ::)
Impressive for what was basically the worst team in the NBA for what like 5 years, more?
While Embiid sure is talented, I'm not sure I'd agree with the adjective "most." To me, Giannis, Towns, and Porzingis are all very talented and exciting young players in their own rights.
I love the international flavor of the next generation.
His on-court personality is equally bombastic. But then in the actual game, his freakish unicorn offensive ability and game-changing defensive ability are pretty incredible for the young player. You can already get a sense of how dominant he can be once he adapts to the NBA game and he's unleashed without a minutes restriction.
Jeez. Mention "Sixers" or "76ers" and any thread on C'sBlog will be hijacked and transformed into one of dozens of LarBrd33's lovefests for Embiid and the 76ers "process". I simply brought up Philly's recent wins as it relates to Brooklyn's pick, and it devolves into yet another Philly discussion.
Don't get me wrong. I don't mind your opinions, even though I disagree with most of your basketball assessments - especially your recent assessments of Brooklyn and the quality of their team - and even if they're posted merely to provoke specific reactions from other posters here. But is there beyond but a few posts where you can bring up discussion other than Embiid's greatness and Philly's purported next decade of dominance? I think every regular poster here already knows your fetish for the 76ers and their shameless "process" of a rebuild. There's no need to discuss it over and over. I'm far more impressed with what Ainge has managed to accomplish of recent than what Hinkie did. We're 3rd in the East, currently have the best odds at the #1 pick, and have basically a guaranteed top 5 pick. What other franchise has that?
Back to Brooklyn - and OUR pick. We're exactly where we want to be.
Yeah. Philly's recent string of wins is great for our Brooklyn pick, for sure. Also the great thing is that there doesn't seem to be any consensus #1 pick in this draft yet, but multiple players thought to be worthy of a #1 pick. So even if the pick ends up 5-8, we should be in great position. Trust the process.Yeah like I said... the entire Embiid Experience is Next-Level entertainment that transcends just basketball. Like the Sixers having a Shirley Temple night in honor of his favorite drink... or ongoing twitter campaign to make him an all-star so he can get a date with Rihanna... or him convincing Dan Patrick he killed a Lion as a 6 year old and brought it back to his village... or him trolling Chandler Parsons on instagram... or the other day when he came out to Triple H's entrance music and spat water all over himself. The Embiid experience offers daily shenanigans (https://twitter.com/ChristianCrosby/status/819386763026296833) outside of bball and it's pretty telling that just 27 games into his NBA career he has more all-star votes over an extremely popular and relatable player in the midst of his best season helping his team get far more wins (Thomas). I haven't seen anything like this since Shaq in terms of a big man becoming this beloved this quickly.if you guys aren't watching Embiid right now you are missing out on the most entertaining player we've seen in years.8-7 with Embiid limited to 28 minutes per game and Simmons yet to suit up.Philly won too. Don't look now, they're 5-5 in their last 10 games and on a franchise record 3 game win streak.They are 8-7 since December 8th.
And they still have the 5th-worst record in the NBA. Quality team.
Meanwhile, the Celtics are 12-3 in their last 15, but keep celebrating Philly's month of mediocrity after 3+ years of embarrassing basketball.
8 wins over the 20/20 Hornets and 6 other non-playoff teams in the:
Knicks
Nets x 2
TWolves
Nuggets
Pistons
Pelicans
Truly "impressive." ::)
Impressive for what was basically the worst team in the NBA for what like 5 years, more?
While Embiid sure is talented, I'm not sure I'd agree with the adjective "most." To me, Giannis, Towns, and Porzingis are all very talented and exciting young players in their own rights.
I love the international flavor of the next generation.
His on-court personality is equally bombastic. But then in the actual game, his freakish unicorn offensive ability and game-changing defensive ability are pretty incredible for the young player. You can already get a sense of how dominant he can be once he adapts to the NBA game and he's unleashed without a minutes restriction.
Jeez. Mention "Sixers" or "76ers" and any thread on C'sBlog will be hijacked and transformed into one of dozens of LarBrd33's lovefests for Embiid and the 76ers "process". I simply brought up Philly's recent wins as it relates to Brooklyn's pick, and it devolves into yet another Philly discussion.
Don't get me wrong. I don't mind your opinions, even though I disagree with most of your basketball assessments - especially your recent assessments of Brooklyn and the quality of their team - and even if they're posted merely to provoke specific reactions from other posters here. But is there beyond but a few posts where you can bring up discussion other than Embiid's greatness and Philly's purported next decade of dominance? I think every regular poster here already knows your fetish for the 76ers and their shameless "process" of a rebuild. There's no need to discuss it over and over. I'm far more impressed with what Ainge has managed to accomplish of recent than what Hinkie did. We're 3rd in the East, currently have the best odds at the #1 pick, and have basically a guaranteed top 5 pick. What other franchise has that?
Back to Brooklyn - and OUR pick. We're exactly where we want to be.
Yeah and as the celtics we should be looking to trade the brk pick to philly if it goes 1 with some more assets like rozier, Mem pick and philly gets something like 3 and 8. I think philly is really desperate for fultz while we can still afford to draft a guy like ball or giles and wait for them to develop. If this happens, I would like to select Giles and monk (gives us a big with star potential and another potential big time scorer).Yeah. Philly's recent string of wins is great for our Brooklyn pick, for sure. Also the great thing is that there doesn't seem to be any consensus #1 pick in this draft yet, but multiple players thought to be worthy of a #1 pick. So even if the pick ends up 5-8, we should be in great position. Trust the process.Yeah like I said... the entire Embiid Experience is Next-Level entertainment that transcends just basketball. Like the Sixers having a Shirley Temple night in honor of his favorite drink... or ongoing twitter campaign to make him an all-star so he can get a date with Rihanna... or him convincing Dan Patrick he killed a Lion as a 6 year old and brought it back to his village... or him trolling Chandler Parsons on instagram... or the other day when he came out to Triple H's entrance music and spat water all over himself. The Embiid experience offers daily shenanigans (https://twitter.com/ChristianCrosby/status/819386763026296833) outside of bball and it's pretty telling that just 27 games into his NBA career he has more all-star votes over an extremely popular and relatable player in the midst of his best season helping his team get far more wins (Thomas). I haven't seen anything like this since Shaq in terms of a big man becoming this beloved this quickly.if you guys aren't watching Embiid right now you are missing out on the most entertaining player we've seen in years.8-7 with Embiid limited to 28 minutes per game and Simmons yet to suit up.Philly won too. Don't look now, they're 5-5 in their last 10 games and on a franchise record 3 game win streak.They are 8-7 since December 8th.
And they still have the 5th-worst record in the NBA. Quality team.
Meanwhile, the Celtics are 12-3 in their last 15, but keep celebrating Philly's month of mediocrity after 3+ years of embarrassing basketball.
8 wins over the 20/20 Hornets and 6 other non-playoff teams in the:
Knicks
Nets x 2
TWolves
Nuggets
Pistons
Pelicans
Truly "impressive." ::)
Impressive for what was basically the worst team in the NBA for what like 5 years, more?
While Embiid sure is talented, I'm not sure I'd agree with the adjective "most." To me, Giannis, Towns, and Porzingis are all very talented and exciting young players in their own rights.
I love the international flavor of the next generation.
His on-court personality is equally bombastic. But then in the actual game, his freakish unicorn offensive ability and game-changing defensive ability are pretty incredible for the young player. You can already get a sense of how dominant he can be once he adapts to the NBA game and he's unleashed without a minutes restriction.
Jeez. Mention "Sixers" or "76ers" and any thread on C'sBlog will be hijacked and transformed into one of dozens of LarBrd33's lovefests for Embiid and the 76ers "process". I simply brought up Philly's recent wins as it relates to Brooklyn's pick, and it devolves into yet another Philly discussion.
Don't get me wrong. I don't mind your opinions, even though I disagree with most of your basketball assessments - especially your recent assessments of Brooklyn and the quality of their team - and even if they're posted merely to provoke specific reactions from other posters here. But is there beyond but a few posts where you can bring up discussion other than Embiid's greatness and Philly's purported next decade of dominance? I think every regular poster here already knows your fetish for the 76ers and their shameless "process" of a rebuild. There's no need to discuss it over and over. I'm far more impressed with what Ainge has managed to accomplish of recent than what Hinkie did. We're 3rd in the East, currently have the best odds at the #1 pick, and have basically a guaranteed top 5 pick. What other franchise has that?
Back to Brooklyn - and OUR pick. We're exactly where we want to be.
Im concerned with this Miami team. I think they can be legitimately worse than Brooklyn.Me too. They know how to get it done. Winning the title or mini-tanking regardless.
We have to look at the loss column, cause that is a certain, secure number.Couldn't disagree more. With teams that rarely win, the WIN column is WAY more important than the loss column. The Lakers have 15 wins. Brooklyn has 8 wins in 1/2 the season. By the time Brooklyn gets to 15 wins ... what worst case 25 games from now ... even if the Lakers only win 4 games in that time (which is highly unlikely), the Nets would still have to make up 4 games in the last 16 or so. Trust me, the Lakers are out of reach.
I think the Lakers shouldn't be too much of a problem. From what I have seen, they seem to amass a lead and promptly give it up later in the game. I expect them to get better with that as the season continues to progress.Im concerned with this Miami team. I think they can be legitimately worse than Brooklyn.Me too. They know how to get it done. Winning the title or mini-tanking regardless.
Dallas looks primed for a good week here and there.
Minny will have something figured out at one point.
Lakers are 3rd in losses. Beware. They have a lot to lose there.
We have to look at the loss column, cause that is a certain, secure number. If "we" win there, we are good.
This is a historic time to be a C's fan. Jaylen is the first of the Brooklyn Celtics(James Young does not exist) and I can't wait for the other two to get here.Well, he is the reason we decided to not make Paul Pierce a lifetime Celtic, so frankly he better be [dang] good. Like Pierce good.
At this point, can the Nets even realistically catch up to anyone other than the Heat?
The Heat are 2.5 games (3 actual wins) up on the Nets;
The Sixers are 5 games up on them (4 actual wins);
And everyone else is 5 full games/wins above the Nets.
Worst case scenario, I'm not even sure that they win 5 more games this season.
The NBA-wide love affair with the 3 ball continues.
Nets and Rockets just equalled the combined 3 point attempt record with 88 total attempts.
Pretty sure the standing record was a 2OT game though and they just equalled it in regulation.
At this point, can the Nets even realistically catch up to anyone other than the Heat?
The Heat are 2.5 games (3 actual wins) up on the Nets;
The Sixers are 5 games up on them (4 actual wins);
And everyone else is 5 full games/wins above the Nets.
Worst case scenario, I'm not even sure that they win 5 more games this season.
I think the Nets have about 10 more wins in them. It's very tough to see anyone but the Heat catching them at this point, and even that's unlikely. Although I dont think Philly wins another game this month, which will her people here a little nervous.
At this point, can the Nets even realistically catch up to anyone other than the Heat?
The Heat are 2.5 games (3 actual wins) up on the Nets;
The Sixers are 5 games up on them (4 actual wins);
And everyone else is 5 full games/wins above the Nets.
Worst case scenario, I'm not even sure that they win 5 more games this season.
I think the Nets have about 10 more wins in them. It's very tough to see anyone but the Heat catching them at this point, and even that's unlikely. Although I dont think Philly wins another game this month, which will her people here a little nervous.
This is a historic time to be a C's fan. Jaylen is the first of the Brooklyn Celtics(James Young does not exist) and I can't wait for the other two to get here.Well, he is the reason we decided to not make Paul Pierce a lifetime Celtic, so frankly he better be [dang] good. Like Pierce good.
At this point, can the Nets even realistically catch up to anyone other than the Heat?
The Heat are 2.5 games (3 actual wins) up on the Nets;
The Sixers are 5 games up on them (4 actual wins);
And everyone else is 5 full games/wins above the Nets.
Worst case scenario, I'm not even sure that they win 5 more games this season.
I think the Nets have about 10 more wins in them. It's very tough to see anyone but the Heat catching them at this point, and even that's unlikely. Although I dont think Philly wins another game this month, which will her people here a little nervous.
I agree. However, Philly plays in Milwaukee tomorrow afternoon after the Bucks played in Atlanta tonight. It's the quintessential trap game for Milwaukee.
Philly up 13 on the Bucks with less than four minutes to go...Wow, they won again. They are now 6-1 in Embiid's last 7 games.
Miami are the only real threat for best odds I think.
Philly up 13 on the Bucks with less than four minutes to go...Wow, they won again. They are now 6-1 in Embiid's last 7 games.
Miami are the only real threat for best odds I think.
It sounds nuts, but they could actually make the playoffs if they keep this up. They have an identical 13-26 record to Boston two seasons ago when they abruptly stopped tanking and rallied their way to a 40-42 record and playoffs seed. Unlike Boston though, they wouldn't rally at the expense of a quality draft pick. Boston ended up getting the 16th pick, because of that playoff run... but because Philly has swap rights with the Kings, they could theoretically make the playoffs and still end up with a top 10 pick.Philly up 13 on the Bucks with less than four minutes to go...Wow, they won again. They are now 6-1 in Embiid's last 7 games.
Miami are the only real threat for best odds I think.
Imagine when simmons gets back, and they may be crazy. Embiid is goijg to make the 76ers a force going forward.
While I agree with most of what you said, I doubt they will have the right conditions to make the playoffs. I think that their lack of depth outside of the center position combined with the rookie factor would keep them out if it even if they got good quickly.It sounds nuts, but they could actually make the playoffs if they keep this up. They have an identical 13-26 record to Boston two seasons ago when they abruptly stopped tanking and rallied their way to a 40-42 record and playoffs seed. Unlike Boston though, they wouldn't rally at the expense of a quality draft pick. Boston ended up getting the 16th pick, because of that playoff run... but because Philly has swap rights with the Kings, they could theoretically make the playoffs and still end up with a top 10 pick.Philly up 13 on the Bucks with less than four minutes to go...Wow, they won again. They are now 6-1 in Embiid's last 7 games.
Miami are the only real threat for best odds I think.
Imagine when simmons gets back, and they may be crazy. Embiid is goijg to make the 76ers a force going forward.
Here's hoping Brooklyn doesn't go on an improbable run. There's still a lot of games left in this season.
Philly's schedule gets tougher and I think it's pretty unlikely they'd rally with Embiid sitting out back-to-backs. But it's clear when the kid is on the court, he's progressively getting more and more dominant. Amongst starting centers, he leads the league in Opponent FG% at the rim. He's a game changer on that end. Offensively, he's an automatic 20ppg despite averaging less than 30mpg. Seems like they should win enough to keep distance above Brooklyn, but I agree it's going to be extremely difficult for them to really flirt with the playoffs this season.While I agree with most of what you said, I doubt they will have the right conditions to make the playoffs. I think that their lack of depth outside of the center position combined with the rookie factor would keep them out if it even if they got good quickly.It sounds nuts, but they could actually make the playoffs if they keep this up. They have an identical 13-26 record to Boston two seasons ago when they abruptly stopped tanking and rallied their way to a 40-42 record and playoffs seed. Unlike Boston though, they wouldn't rally at the expense of a quality draft pick. Boston ended up getting the 16th pick, because of that playoff run... but because Philly has swap rights with the Kings, they could theoretically make the playoffs and still end up with a top 10 pick.Philly up 13 on the Bucks with less than four minutes to go...Wow, they won again. They are now 6-1 in Embiid's last 7 games.
Miami are the only real threat for best odds I think.
Imagine when simmons gets back, and they may be crazy. Embiid is goijg to make the 76ers a force going forward.
Here's hoping Brooklyn doesn't go on an improbable run. There's still a lot of games left in this season.
But the sooner they get good the sooner the East continues to rise.
Also lets not pretend like the Nets have a transcendant center and potential multi time all star rookie coming to the rescue. They have a Jeremy Lin coming.
Philly up 13 on the Bucks with less than four minutes to go...Wow, they won again. They are now 6-1 in Embiid's last 7 games.
Miami are the only real threat for best odds I think.
Imagine when simmons gets back, and they may be crazy. Embiid is goijg to make the 76ers a force going forward.
Here's hoping Brooklyn doesn't go on an improbable run. There's still a lot of games left in this season.
Ever since I said "Phoenix Stinks" on here they haven't stunk...
I'm getting concerned that I will soon be in "expecting Brooklyn to get the #1 pick even though I know it's a 25% chance" mode.not so sure i agree. 25% chance is best any team can have. we can at least pretend, make believe, wish upon a star, enjoy the moment now and have fun.
That's a bad mode to be in. As we all know.
simmons might be a great player in the nba. he might be a great passer with serious flaws in shooting and defense and attitude. he might turn out, as some #1s do, as nothing super special.Philly up 13 on the Bucks with less than four minutes to go...Wow, they won again. They are now 6-1 in Embiid's last 7 games.
Miami are the only real threat for best odds I think.
Imagine when simmons gets back, and they may be crazy. Embiid is goijg to make the 76ers a force going forward.
I'm getting concerned that I will soon be in "expecting Brooklyn to get the #1 pick even though I know it's a 25% chance" mode.not so sure i agree. 25% chance is best any team can have. we can at least pretend, make believe, wish upon a star, enjoy the moment now and have fun.
That's a bad mode to be in. As we all know.
draft wise, it doesnt get any better than this, so enjoy while you can. ;D
At this point, can the Nets even realistically catch up to anyone other than the Heat?
The Heat are 2.5 games (3 actual wins) up on the Nets;
The Sixers are 5 games up on them (4 actual wins);
And everyone else is 5 full games/wins above the Nets.
Worst case scenario, I'm not even sure that they win 5 more games this season.
I think the Nets have about 10 more wins in them. It's very tough to see anyone but the Heat catching them at this point, and even that's unlikely. Although I dont think Philly wins another game this month, which will her people here a little nervous.
I agree. However, Philly plays in Milwaukee tomorrow afternoon after the Bucks played in Atlanta tonight. It's the quintessential trap game for Milwaukee.
And you, my friend, receive a TP for your Nostradamusian prediction.
Mike
Kyle Lowry will not play against the Nets due to rest. Not great news for the pick, but I'd imagine Toronto's still heavily favored. Worst case scenario we pick up a game on the Raps.
Kyle Lowry will not play against the Nets due to rest. Not great news for the pick, but I'd imagine Toronto's still heavily favored. Worst case scenario we pick up a game on the Raps.
seriously? is bkn going get a win against toronto (although it would help our seeding)? can't they just lay down already?? up 3 at the half >:(
Ooh. Miami up 3 in the 4th. That's pretty big if they could pull it off.Up 6 now. Can I believe..?
Honestly I would have rather Brooklyn taken this one, but can't complain. Is that 11 straight?
Ooh. Miami up 3 in the 4th. That's pretty big if they could pull it off.
Ooh. Miami up 3 in the 4th. That's pretty big if they could pull it off.Up 6 now. Can I believe..?
Caris LeVert is the lone bright spot in the misery of the Nets organization. If he can stay healthy he has the potential to become a nice player. Good athlete, active defensively, and has some solid skills on offense. He's had his minutes limited thus far, much to the chagrin of Nets fans, but he's looked good when he gets them.
Wow, 4-win buffer. That's crazy.
game over in Miami, Boston wins.
game over in Brooklyn, Boston wins.
Timberwolves leading the Spurs... this is approaching Pareto !!!!
game over in Miami, Boston wins.
game over in Brooklyn, Boston wins.
Dallas beat Chicago, too! And that's another win for us, along with helping the Bulls lose and giving them more incentive to trade Butler!
Bleh. David Lee playing out of his mind for the spurs. Up 9 on the wolves now with 8 to go.
David lee still finding ways to screw the celtics.
Bleh. David Lee playing out of his mind for the spurs. Up 9 on the wolves now with 8 to go.
David lee still finding ways to screw the celtics.
What's with these Wolves blowing leads so many times.
Didn't they blow like a 15 point lead to the C's earlier this season?
It might have something to do with their average player being like 12. Those little kids gotta grow up and learn a thing or two.Bleh. David Lee playing out of his mind for the spurs. Up 9 on the wolves now with 8 to go.
David lee still finding ways to screw the celtics.
What's with these Wolves blowing leads so many times.
Didn't they blow like a 15 point lead to the C's earlier this season?
It might have something to do with their average player being like 12. Those little kids gotta grow up and learn a thing or two.Bleh. David Lee playing out of his mind for the spurs. Up 9 on the wolves now with 8 to go.
David lee still finding ways to screw the celtics.
What's with these Wolves blowing leads so many times.
Didn't they blow like a 15 point lead to the C's earlier this season?
Nets loss? Check.
Heat win? Check.
Dallas win? Check
Come on T-wolves. Let's get 4 in a row!
Timberwolves leading the Spurs... this is approaching Pareto !!!!
Not quite how I'd use "Pareto", but TP for the attempt :)
Sixers win again. I don't think they are in the discussion anymore. I think we'll probably only be focusing on the Heat and perhaps the Suns from here on out.
Well, the Heat are 4 games up on the Nets. So, are you saying the worry is over? ;)Sixers win again. I don't think they are in the discussion anymore. I think we'll probably only be focusing on the Heat and perhaps the Suns from here on out.
I think it's really just Miami we need to worry about. The Suns would have to be unbelievably bad to make up a five game deficit over their final 41 games.
The Heat and Nets play 3 games against each other. I'll get comfortable when the Heat are 6 games up.Well, the Heat are 4 games up on the Nets. So, are you saying the worry is over? ;)Sixers win again. I don't think they are in the discussion anymore. I think we'll probably only be focusing on the Heat and perhaps the Suns from here on out.
I think it's really just Miami we need to worry about. The Suns would have to be unbelievably bad to make up a five game deficit over their final 41 games.
Another point to keep in mind is that the nets are 1-18 on the road. And, most of their remaining games are on the road.
This is a good thing.
IF Brooklyn finishes last:
We have a 25% chance of landing the 1st pick.
We have a 44.9% chance of landing a top 2 pick.
We have a 60.5% chance of landing a top 3 pick.
We are guaranteed to land a top 4 pick.
Let's keep this perspective, folks. Maybe more on getting a top 3 or 4 pick, since the odds are still against us of landing a top 2 pick (which in likelihood will be Fultz and Ball).
And, if Brooklyn finishes 2nd to last its:IF Brooklyn finishes last:
We have a 25% chance of landing the 1st pick.
We have a 44.9% chance of landing a top 2 pick.
We have a 60.5% chance of landing a top 3 pick.
We are guaranteed to land a top 4 pick.
Let's keep this perspective, folks. Maybe more on getting a top 3 or 4 pick, since the odds are still against us of landing a top 2 pick (which in likelihood will be Fultz and Ball).
Yes...this a good reminder.
A guaranteed Top 4 or 5 pick in this draft would look good for the C's.
IF Brooklyn finishes last:
We have a 25% chance of landing the 1st pick.
We have a 44.9% chance of landing a top 2 pick.
We have a 60.5% chance of landing a top 3 pick.
We are guaranteed to land a top 4 pick.
Let's keep this perspective, folks. Maybe more on getting a top 3 or 4 pick, since the odds are still against us of landing a top 2 pick (which in likelihood will be Fultz and Ball).
IF Brooklyn finishes last:
We have a 25% chance of landing the 1st pick.
We have a 44.9% chance of landing a top 2 pick.
We have a 60.5% chance of landing a top 3 pick.
We are guaranteed to land a top 4 pick.
Let's keep this perspective, folks. Maybe more on getting a top 3 or 4 pick, since the odds are still against us of landing a top 2 pick (which in likelihood will be Fultz and Ball).
IF Brooklyn finishes last:
We have a 25% chance of landing the 1st pick.
We have a 44.9% chance of landing a top 2 pick.
We have a 60.5% chance of landing a top 3 pick.
We are guaranteed to land a top 4 pick.
Let's keep this perspective, folks. Maybe more on getting a top 3 or 4 pick, since the odds are still against us of landing a top 2 pick (which in likelihood will be Fultz and Ball).
Point taken, but I think your numbers are *slightly* off. I'm using this for reference:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NBA_draft_lottery
Getting the top pick means we have a 46.5% chance of landing in the top 2 and a 53.5% chance of landing 3 or 4. So roughly 50-50.
A guaranteed Top 4 or 5 pick in this draft would look good for the C's.
Still love to get a top 2. One of Fultz or Ball could offer more security and extend our title window beyond IT's prime. What's the feeling on Smart around here? I assume people on this thread are thinking 5 years down the road like me.
Miami hosting Dallas tonight.
It just feels so wrong to be rooting for the Heat...
Mike
IF Brooklyn finishes last:
We have a 25% chance of landing the 1st pick.
We have a 44.9% chance of landing a top 2 pick.
We have a 60.5% chance of landing a top 3 pick.
We are guaranteed to land a top 4 pick.
Let's keep this perspective, folks. Maybe more on getting a top 3 or 4 pick, since the odds are still against us of landing a top 2 pick (which in likelihood will be Fultz and Ball).
Point taken, but I think your numbers are *slightly* off. I'm using this for reference:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NBA_draft_lottery
Getting the top pick means we have a 46.5% chance of landing in the top 2 and a 53.5% chance of landing 3 or 4. So roughly 50-50.
miami up 7 with 9 min to go :)
miami up 7 with 9 min to go :)
LOL at Celtics fans watching Miami vs Dallas with strong interest. **** !!!
Miami and Dallas play each other two more times. I think. Must watch tv! ;Dmiami up 7 with 9 min to go :)
If Miami can pull this off, they might legitimately be out of the range for Brooklyn to catch them.
Game over in Miami, Celtics win.Very good. Tp for you and everyone else here.
Game over in Miami, Celtics win.
I'm not getting my hopes up. We could still get corked in the lottery. I don't get why we don't get lucky in it. I'm still stewing over Cleveland winning the #1 overall pick. It got them James and Love. Which then led to Durant joining the Warriors.its ironic that the lottery system ended up ruining the NBA. Who would have thought.
Serious question. If we didn't own these 3 picks in a row, would Brooklyn be considered Exhibit A of how "tanking" is ruining the league, and how we need lottery reform?
Serious question. If we didn't own these 3 picks in a row, would Brooklyn be considered Exhibit A of how "tanking" is ruining the league, and how we need lottery reform?
Serious question. If we didn't own these 3 picks in a row, would Brooklyn be considered Exhibit A of how "tanking" is ruining the league, and how we need lottery reform?
I think fans would be pretty suspicious of the Thad Young trade. Other than that, though, it's hard to argue tanking. It's a lack of talent. They tried to improve in free agency but struck out.
this is so amazing... they have10 losses in a row. I never thought the Nets picks would end being so insanely good when the deal was made.
As a side note, the bottom team has only 25% of winning the 1st pick- whereas the % of being 4th are 35.7. The good news tho is that you are guaranteed to be in the top 4.
Up by five. That's a good little Miami team. good boys.
yup, top 4 in this draft is looking really good as opposed to other years when it's been a top 1 or top 2 and we've been just outside that range.this is so amazing... they have10 losses in a row. I never thought the Nets picks would end being so insanely good when the deal was made.
As a side note, the bottom team has only 25% of winning the 1st pick- whereas the % of being 4th are 35.7. The good news tho is that you are guaranteed to be in the top 4.
TP, great point that I never actually wrote in the OP. It's so significant for our pick because we are guaranteed a top 4 pick.
Thankyou Billy King!
Brings me back to November 12, when the Nets were 4-5 and many people were panicking (yes, myself included). In fact, somebody questioned if we would even be needing the swap with BKN (I think it was a joke.).
Since that time, they have gone 4-28. Can you imagine it? What would this board have done if we could somehow have gone into the future and seen where they would be at this point? That we'd be at the halfway point and their closest "competitor" would be four games "behind" them. Unbelievable.
The only thing that the Nets have going for them is that Jeremy Lin will soon return. No, he is not the world's greatest point guard, but their offense clearly plays much better with him on the court.
Mike
That's why I posted years ago that the Nets situation was the worst in the league. No young talent. No picks. No ability to attract FAs. And here it is. Of course, I'm not always right. I said that Trump would never voted into the Oval Office... ;D
Can't help but think back a few decades (1986) when I was checking box scores daily to see how Seattle did. For you yungins, we had their pick when we traded Gerald Henderson and ended up with the #2 pick. Red talked up Brad Daugherty who was taken 1st by the Cavs. We got our man, Len Bias at #2. He was thought to be the guy to continue the Celtic dominance of the 80's. As many of us know he died tragically 2 days later of a cocaine overdose.
The best part is that NEXT year they're likely to be just as bad.I think they will be marginally better next year, but what do I know? theyve been worse than Ive expected each of the last two years.
Having a good team, fun to watch, competing for a top seed in the east while looking at a lottery pick with the best odds for #1 is something all NBA fans can't do. Definitely exciting ! And just for that Danny deserves recognition.yup
But don't rely on #1 pick too much, or you could be disapointed in the end...
The best part is that NEXT year they're likely to be just as bad.I think they will be marginally better next year, but what do I know? theyve been worse than Ive expected each of the last two years.
Im not going to stress about it. As the OP stated, this lead is becoming so large that I dont see how they dont finish with the worst record in the league. 5 wins is a very large gap to overcome when you consider they have only won 8 so far.
Looks like Nets by 12 at the half and Anthony Davis may be injured.
Can't lose 'em all, I guess.
Mike
Looks like Nets by 12 at the half and Anthony Davis may be injured.Dude gets hurt a lot...
Can't lose 'em all, I guess.
Mike
Looks like Nets by 12 at the half and Anthony Davis may be injured.
Can't lose 'em all, I guess.
Mike
Ouch! Brooklyn looks like a win....
What the hell happened tonight ?Nets were just hot. One of those games. They went 15-30 on threes, despite being the third worst team by percentage, and an insane 32-35 from the free throw line. Even a broken clock and all that.
143 points. Yikes!!! I was just starting to feel really comfortable that they'd end up with the worst record. Anyone know why Booker and Kilpatrick didn't play and when Lin is expected back?
Lin remains out with no return date in sight. Isaiah Whitehead and Spencer Dinwiddie haven't really done enough to warrant fantasy consideration in Lin's absence.
Lin is averaging 13.9 points, 5.8 assists, 3.3 rebounds, 1.3 steals and 1.3 3-pointers on a career-high 46.9 shooting percentage from the field this season, but in only 12 games.
Source: Rotoworld.com
He'll most likely not be healthy, and he's just having a streak of good games (he wouldn't be anything close to a star I guess, maybe Bradley tier but who knows)
Oh No! Lavert played very well again. 17,6,5 he could be the steal of the draft if healthy.
Nets had to win sometime
Next four against Charlotte, San Antonio, Miami and Cleveland.hopefully they do but I really think they could pull off wins against charlotte and Miami
Hopefully they get "back on track" and go 0-4 next four games lol.
Suns on 2nd night of a back to back about to beat the Raptors in Toronto.
Suns on 2nd night of a back to back about to beat the Raptors in Toronto.
Toronto is vulnerable! lets attack the two seed and berth in the conference finals!Suns on 2nd night of a back to back about to beat the Raptors in Toronto.
That's just awful. I almost feel bad for them. Almost.
Can you admit having to go home and admit to your spouse/girlfriend/whomever that you lost to the Suns? The utter humiliation. As bad as having your buns taped together in high school wrestling.
Mike
Minnesota won.
Phoenix won.
Dallas won.
Over all a good night for the Celtics. ;D
Oh yes yes yes! 49 point humiliating loss for the despicable laker slugs. Hee, hee that is worth it. Overall, a good evening indeed.Minnesota won.
Phoenix won.
Dallas won.
Over all a good night for the Celtics. ;D
I was actually rooting for Dallas to lose, since I think they are a better team than the Lakers and will make up the wins.
But any 49-point loss by the Lakers is a great consolation prize!
Mike
Minnesota won.
Phoenix won.
Dallas won.
Over all a good night for the Celtics. ;D
The Lakers are starting to look like the second worst team. Hopefully there's too much distance between them and the Nets.and down the stretch the shameful Lakers will be intentionally trying to lose games while Brooklyn will be trying to win.
Is their pick this year top 3 protected?The Lakers are starting to look like the second worst team. Hopefully there's too much distance between them and the Nets.and down the stretch the shameful Lakers will be intentionally trying to lose games while Brooklyn will be trying to win.
yes. Hence why they are in the bottom 3. I suspect they will do everything they can to stay there.Is their pick this year top 3 protected?The Lakers are starting to look like the second worst team. Hopefully there's too much distance between them and the Nets.and down the stretch the shameful Lakers will be intentionally trying to lose games while Brooklyn will be trying to win.
yes. Hence why they are in the bottom 3. I suspect they will do everything they can to stay there.Is their pick this year top 3 protected?The Lakers are starting to look like the second worst team. Hopefully there's too much distance between them and the Nets.and down the stretch the shameful Lakers will be intentionally trying to lose games while Brooklyn will be trying to win.
I am more worried about the ping pong balls than I am about the Nets.
I am more worried about the ping pong balls than I am about the Nets.Me too. I am convinced the Nets are the league's worst team and have 100% confidence they will have the worse record. But I have no faith in lottery balls to give us a top 3 pick, nevermind the first pick
I am more worried about the ping pong balls than I am about the Nets.
True, but we can't control the ping pong balls whereas, by posting here multiple times per day, we are helping to defeat the Nets.
Mike
I am more worried about the ping pong balls than I am about the Nets.Me too. I am convinced the Nets are the league's worst team and have 100% confidence they will have the worse record. But I have no faith in lottery balls to give us a top 3 pick, nevermind the first pick
I am more worried about the ping pong balls than I am about the Nets.
True, but we can't control the ping pong balls whereas, by posting here multiple times per day, we are helping to defeat the Nets.
Mike
I am more worried about the ping pong balls than I am about the Nets.
True, but we can't control the ping pong balls whereas, by posting here multiple times per day, we are helping to defeat the Nets.
Mike
Playing the simulated lottery on "Tankathon" several times a day helps with the ping pong balls. I'm convinced of it.
I am more worried about the ping pong balls than I am about the Nets.
True, but we can't control the ping pong balls whereas, by posting here multiple times per day, we are helping to defeat the Nets.
Mike
I am more worried about the ping pong balls than I am about the Nets.Me too. I am convinced the Nets are the league's worst team and have 100% confidence they will have the worse record. But I have no faith in lottery balls to give us a top 3 pick, nevermind the first pick
I simulated the lottery...I got fourth... >:( >:( >:(
I am more worried about the ping pong balls than I am about the Nets.Me too. I am convinced the Nets are the league's worst team and have 100% confidence they will have the worse record. But I have no faith in lottery balls to give us a top 3 pick, nevermind the first pick
I simulated the lottery...I got fourth... >:( >:( >:(
I did even worse. We finished second, but the Lakers were first.
Out of eight sims, I got the first pick for us only twice, which kind of ticked me off until I remembered, oh, yeah, that whole "math" thing...
Mike
Is there anybody playing for the Spurs tonight? Parker, Manu, Gasol, Leonard all sitting.
Mike
All kidding aside, lee is probably better than anyone on that team other than lopez, kilpatrick, or uninjured lin. Lavert has a good game here and there but I feel is inconsistent.Is there anybody playing for the Spurs tonight? Parker, Manu, Gasol, Leonard all sitting.
Mike
It's okay. David Lee to the rescue :laugh:
Is there anybody playing for the Spurs tonight? Parker, Manu, Gasol, Leonard all sitting.
Mike
It's okay. David Lee to the rescue :laugh:
Lavert is out...
All kidding aside, lee is probably better than anyone on that team other than lopez, kilpatrick, or uninjured lin. Lavert has a good game here and there but I feel is inconsistent.
All kidding aside, lee is probably better than anyone on that team other than lopez, kilpatrick, or uninjured lin. Lavert has a good game here and there but I feel is inconsistent.Is there anybody playing for the Spurs tonight? Parker, Manu, Gasol, Leonard all sitting.
Mike
It's okay. David Lee to the rescue :laugh:
Is there anybody playing for the Spurs tonight? Parker, Manu, Gasol, Leonard all sitting.
Mike
I've watched a ton of Nets games this season, and I gotta say, their commentators might be the most impartial in the NBA.
Would be cool if they get Celtics commentators calling the Nets games.I've watched a ton of Nets games this season, and I gotta say, their commentators might be the most impartial in the NBA.
Well it's easy to be impartial when you don't have anything to hope for.
I've watched a ton of Nets games this season, and I gotta say, their commentators might be the most impartial in the NBA.
I've watched a ton of Nets games this season, and I gotta say, their commentators might be the most impartial in the NBA.
Not to jinx anything, but Miami is up 5 on Golden State midway through the 4th.
EVERYONE BACK ONTO WAITERS ISLAND!!!
Heat beat the Warriors! Now SIX wins up on the Nets!
Heat beat the Warriors! Now SIX wins up on the Nets!
Does that make the Lakers the largest threat to our NETANK?
I don't think there's any way a team can finish below the Nets at this point. And it's really difficult to see much of a change next season, either, unless they're able to steal a couple restricted free agents that pan out.
Heat beat the Warriors! Now SIX wins up on the Nets!
Does that make the Lakers the largest threat to our NETANK?
Still Miami for now. They've got three games coming up with Brooklyn to get back in it, although I don't think it matters.
Miami have won four straight.
Face it everyone, the C's are getting that no. 1 pick.
Wow! Heat beat GSW and now the Pelicans without AD are about to beat the Cavs. Great night for our pick!
if he missed, that .6 likely gets consumed during rebound.EVERYONE BACK ONTO WAITERS ISLAND!!!
he should have waited .6 seconds lol
if he missed, that .6 likely gets consumed during rebound.EVERYONE BACK ONTO WAITERS ISLAND!!!
he should have waited .6 seconds lol
Heat beat the Warriors! Now SIX wins up on the Nets!
Does that make the Lakers the largest threat to our NETANK?
Still Miami for now. They've got three games coming up with Brooklyn to get back in it, although I don't think it matters.
Jeremy Lin is out another 3- 5 weeks after further aggravating his hamstring.I thought the Nets were pretty healthy last year. All they reallt did was lose Jack and RHJ for a half season each. Other than that they were healthy.
Thank god the Nets have been ravaged by injuries like last season ;)
http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/244673/Jeremy-Lin-Out-3-5-More-Weeks-After-Re-Aggravating-Hamstring
Jeremy Lin is out another 3- 5 weeks after further aggravating his hamstring.I thought the Nets were pretty healthy last year. All they reallt did was lose Jack and RHJ for a half season each. Other than that they were healthy.
Thank god the Nets have been ravaged by injuries like last season ;)
http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/244673/Jeremy-Lin-Out-3-5-More-Weeks-After-Re-Aggravating-Hamstring
Boston should reverse tank and give the Lakers another win when we play them...
Boston should reverse tank and give the Lakers another win when we play them...The day the Celtics lose to the Lakers on purpose is the day I stop being a Celtic fan and NBA watcher
Boston should reverse tank and give the Lakers another win when we play them...did this notion of losing to the Lakers actually get posted here? talk about a post that would inspire the reinstatement of giving negative TPs
Boston should reverse tank and give the Lakers another win when we play them...did this notion of losing to the Lakers actually get posted here? talk about a post that would inspire the reinstatement of giving negative TPs
Boston should reverse tank and give the Lakers another win when we play them...did this notion of losing to the Lakers actually get posted here? talk about a post that would inspire the reinstatement of giving negative TPs
that is a win SlamKing... you have to think critically here. Any Laker win is a LOSS for the Lakers.
In the world of tanking a win is a loss and vice versa.
no. this is simply evil thinking. no.Boston should reverse tank and give the Lakers another win when we play them...did this notion of losing to the Lakers actually get posted here? talk about a post that would inspire the reinstatement of giving negative TPs
that is a win SlamKing... you have to think critically here. Any Laker win is a LOSS for the Lakers.
In the world of tanking a win is a loss and vice versa.
If the Lakers keep losing and wind up with the first pick, they'll likely select Lonzo Ball. I call "fix is in" if that happens.
Boston should reverse tank and give the Lakers another win when we play them...did this notion of losing to the Lakers actually get posted here? talk about a post that would inspire the reinstatement of giving negative TPs
that is a win SlamKing... you have to think critically here. Any Laker win is a LOSS for the Lakers.
In the world of tanking a win is a loss and vice versa.
Boston should reverse tank and give the Lakers another win when we play them...The day the Celtics lose to the Lakers on purpose is the day I stop being a Celtic fan and NBA watcher
Sixers are going to win again.And they're doing it without Embiid. Looks like Noel and Richaun Holmes, their 4th string center, both had good games.
Sixers are going to win again.And they're doing it without Embiid. Looks like Noel and Richaun Holmes, their 4th string center, both had good games.
no, it's a loss. a very bad loss. C's getting wins has a direct impact on their positioning for the playoffs. C's have no vested interest in the Laker pick, only the Nets pick. If Lakers keep their pick from the Sixers this year, they're still a long way from getting near a playoff spot in the near and probably not-so-near future.Boston should reverse tank and give the Lakers another win when we play them...did this notion of losing to the Lakers actually get posted here? talk about a post that would inspire the reinstatement of giving negative TPs
that is a win SlamKing... you have to think critically here. Any Laker win is a LOSS for the Lakers.
In the world of tanking a win is a loss and vice versa.
Big game with Miami at Brooklyn tonight.It's funny how fast the Lakers fell. I think most of us figured the Lakers' .500 start was fool's gold but it's taken no time at all to get them into the #2 position in the lottery.
If Miami beats Brooklyn tonight, is it fair to conclude that Miami is no longer a threat to overtake the Nets as the worst team/record in the league? That would put Brooklyn at 9-36 and Miami at 16-30, a full 7 wins above the Nets and 6.5 games in the standings.
I already think that LAL is the biggest threat to the Nets over the Heat, since the Lakers will be outright tanking from here on out, and even at that I think there's a 90% possibility of the Nets ending with the worst record in the NBA in April over the Lakers.
Wow. Wasn't Miami down double digits heading into the 4th? I was busy watching the C's game but I glanced at the score and it didn't look good. What a great surprise. The Heat apparently put together a 38 to 17 4th quarter.
Wow. Wasn't Miami down double digits heading into the 4th? I was busy watching the C's game but I glanced at the score and it didn't look good. What a great surprise. The Heat apparently put together a 38 to 17 4th quarter.
Hey, why can't the Nets make change for a dollar?
Because they've only got three quarters.
Hee hee hee,
Mike
This race is over. The only interest left is where the Lakers and Sixers finish the year. The Nets have no chance of making up 7 wins.agreed. even if the Lakers, Miami, etc… go into full on tank mode, they'll still win a few more games this year. Nets would have to win another 10 games in less than half a season to realistically pass anyone else.
This race is over. The only interest left is where the Lakers and Sixers finish the year. The Nets have no chance of making up 7 wins.agreed. even if the Lakers, Miami, etc… go into full on tank mode, they'll still win a few more games this year. Nets would have to win another 10 games in less than half a season to realistically pass anyone else.
They locked up top odds well in advance of the trade deadline, too! All options are on the table
They locked up top odds well in advance of the trade deadline, too! All options are on the tableIm in disbelief.
Let's stop with the "it's over" comments. No need to tempt the basketball gods. Also, the Nets have several winnable games over the next 6 or so games so they could cut it back down to 3 or 4 and make us sweat again. Plus rooting for them to lose is fun! I'll miss this thread if they lock it up too soon.
I saw they were down 10 halfway through the 4th and was mildly disappointed.
TOO BAD I FORGOT THIS IS THE NETS WE ARE TALKING ABOUT. WOOOOO
Let's stop with the "it's over" comments. No need to tempt the basketball gods. Also, the Nets have several winnable games over the next 6 or so games so they could cut it back down to 3 or 4 and make us sweat again. Plus rooting for them to lose is fun! I'll miss this thread if they lock it up too soon.
The numbers support it pretty much being over. Phx is 6 wins up and the next closest teams are 7 up. The Nets have only won 9 game all year. They would have to win 7 of 37 and hope that no team above them wins a game the rest of the year.
Their next 3 games are likely to sink them with the Cavs, Twolves, and Heat again. If they dont win any of those 3 I just dont see how it will be possible.
Let's stop with the "it's over" comments. No need to tempt the basketball gods. Also, the Nets have several winnable games over the next 6 or so games so they could cut it back down to 3 or 4 and make us sweat again. Plus rooting for them to lose is fun! I'll miss this thread if they lock it up too soon.
The numbers support it pretty much being over. Phx is 6 wins up and the next closest teams are 7 up. The Nets have only won 9 game all year. They would have to win 7 of 37 and hope that no team above them wins a game the rest of the year.
Their next 3 games are likely to sink them with the Cavs, Twolves, and Heat again. If they dont win any of those 3 I just dont see how it will be possible.
Most likely you are correct. Still, I'm not counting my chickens before they hatch. The Nets will win some games down the stretch as their schedule is very easy and the majority is at home.
Still, nice position to be in, eh? ;D
This is sooo sad, no fan base should ever go through this seriously lolI have no problem with Laker, Sixer and Knick fan bases going through years of god awful play for years at a time. Not even a little bit.
This is sooo sad, no fan base should ever go through this seriously lol
Let's stop with the "it's over" comments. No need to tempt the basketball gods. Also, the Nets have several winnable games over the next 6 or so games so they could cut it back down to 3 or 4 and make us sweat again. Plus rooting for them to lose is fun! I'll miss this thread if they lock it up too soon.
The numbers support it pretty much being over. Phx is 6 wins up and the next closest teams are 7 up. The Nets have only won 9 game all year. They would have to win 7 of 37 and hope that no team above them wins a game the rest of the year.
Their next 3 games are likely to sink them with the Cavs, Twolves, and Heat again. If they dont win any of those 3 I just dont see how it will be possible.
Most likely you are correct. Still, I'm not counting my chickens before they hatch. The Nets will win some games down the stretch as their schedule is very easy and the majority is at home.
Still, nice position to be in, eh? ;D
Honestly, iM not saying this from a perspective of hoping the Nets end up with the worst record. Im saying it just based on the numbers. Six or seven wins is alot of wins to make up considering that they only have won 9 in 45 games. Do you really expect them to win 6 or 7 in 35 games? This is also the assumption that the teams infront of them do not win a game the rest of the year which wont happen.
This is sooo sad, no fan base should ever go through this seriously lolI have no problem with Laker, Sixer and Knick fan bases going through years of god awful play for years at a time. Not even a little bit.
Excellent stuff as usual Mike...TPThis is sooo sad, no fan base should ever go through this seriously lolI have no problem with Laker, Sixer and Knick fan bases going through years of god awful play for years at a time. Not even a little bit.
I agree. I have no beef with the Nets. I'm rooting against them because they are in our way, just as I have no beef with the Atlanta Falcons. I wish them both well, unless they are between us and something we want.
I grew up hating the Lakers, Sixers and Knicks. They're personal.
When I started this post, I was thinking that the Nets have a ridiculously easy schedule and could make up the gap. But, after running the numbers below, I'm feeling better, since PHX and LAL also have easier second half schedules. I believe the numbers, not my intuition.
I'm not ready to call the season over, although a statistical analysis would show that it's not going to be easy for the Nets to make up the gap. I think they still have three real competitors for that bottom spot: LAL, Phoenix and Miami (in declining order of "challenger power"). There are currently 12 teams playing >.500, 2 playing at .500 and 14 <.500.
Sadly, strength of schedule counts, and for the Nets schedule gets a bit easier: They've played 25 games so far against teams >.500, 20 games against teams <.500. Of their remaining 37 games, 23 are against teams that are currently .500 or below (two of the 23 are against teams at .500). Of those 23, only six are teams that are .600 or better (including two against us). I'm assuming that Jeremy Lin is out until Mar 1. After 3/1, they have 24 games, 15 of which are against teams below .500 (currently). I have to believe that they are a better team with a well-rested Lin than without one.
Not everything is that bad. They're on the road for 20 of those 37 games. They have no reason to play Brook Lopez in April. Hopefully, the east stays bunched up at the top, because two of their last three games are against the Bulls.
By comparison, the Lakers have 33 games left. Of those games, 15 are against .500 or better teams, 18 against the rest. 16/15 home/road (or vice versa).
Like the Nets, Phoenix also has 37 games remaining, with 22 remaining against <.500 teams.
Miami has 36 games remaining, with 24 of those against the below .500 crowd. They have two games left against BKN, so let's hope the Heat show up for both of those.
The Lakers do seem to be the biggest threat right now, only five games ahead (seven in the win column, three in the loss). Phoenix, at six games back, represents a threat if Eric Bledsoe goes down. The Lakers and Suns have two games against each other remaining.
Of course, if Lopez goes down for any extended period of time, none of the above matters.
After having looked at the numbers, I feel better than I thought I would when I first began to look at the numbers.
Mike
What are the chances of Caris LeVert spoiling our fun? They seem too far back from the other bad teams and they've never had winning streak to speak of.None. One hot player will never be enough to turn around that abysmal team to start playing .400 ball, which is probably what the Nets would have to play in order to not have the worst record.
Here's some perspective on the numbers:
The Nets have played .200 ball to date. Suppose they improve to .333 for the rest of the way, which is a substantial change. They'd end up 21-61.
To "catch" them, the Lakers would need to go 5-28, which is .150 ball, and they've played .327 ball to date.
So basically, this is very, very unlikely to happen.
Now, keep in mind that even if this low-probability event happens, all it does is reduce our chances at the #1 pick from 25% to 20%, and for a top 3 pick from 64% to 56%.
Just to put some numbers on things, if you think there's a 10% chance that someone else catches the Nets, then our probabilities of getting picks are:
#1 pick: 24.5%
Top 3: 63.4%
Whereas if the season ended today, they would be:
#1 pick: 25%
Top 3: 64.3%
The upshot: for all practical purposes, our odds of getting the #1 pick are pretty close to what they'd be if the season ended today, even looking out to the end of the season and allowing for a sensible chance that someone catches BKN.
Here's some perspective on the numbers:
The Nets have played .200 ball to date. Suppose they improve to .333 for the rest of the way, which is a substantial change. They'd end up 21-61.
To "catch" them, the Lakers would need to go 5-28, which is .150 ball, and they've played .327 ball to date.
So basically, this is very, very unlikely to happen.
Now, keep in mind that even if this low-probability event happens, all it does is reduce our chances at the #1 pick from 25% to 20%, and for a top 3 pick from 64% to 56%.
Just to put some numbers on things, if you think there's a 10% chance that someone else catches the Nets, then our probabilities of getting picks are:
#1 pick: 24.5%
Top 3: 63.4%
Whereas if the season ended today, they would be:
#1 pick: 25%
Top 3: 64.3%
The upshot: for all practical purposes, our odds of getting the #1 pick are pretty close to what they'd be if the season ended today, even looking out to the end of the season and allowing for a sensible chance that someone catches BKN.
Not totally out of the realm of possibility, given that they went 6-23 after a 10-10 start. But yes, I am cherry picking my numbers and time frame.
Mike
Here's some perspective on the numbers:
The Nets have played .200 ball to date. Suppose they improve to .333 for the rest of the way, which is a substantial change. They'd end up 21-61.
To "catch" them, the Lakers would need to go 5-28, which is .150 ball, and they've played .327 ball to date.
So basically, this is very, very unlikely to happen.
Now, keep in mind that even if this low-probability event happens, all it does is reduce our chances at the #1 pick from 25% to 20%, and for a top 3 pick from 64% to 56%.
Just to put some numbers on things, if you think there's a 10% chance that someone else catches the Nets, then our probabilities of getting picks are:
#1 pick: 24.5%
Top 3: 63.4%
Whereas if the season ended today, they would be:
#1 pick: 25%
Top 3: 64.3%
The upshot: for all practical purposes, our odds of getting the #1 pick are pretty close to what they'd be if the season ended today, even looking out to the end of the season and allowing for a sensible chance that someone catches BKN.
Not totally out of the realm of possibility, given that they went 6-23 after a 10-10 start. But yes, I am cherry picking my numbers and time frame.
Mike
Nice work. I will say that it will be hard for the Nets to catch the Lakers considering the Lakers have a 7 game cushion in the win column. Lakers have played 49 games with 33 to go. Even winning 4 of those games puts a ton of pressure on the Nets.
Here is another little nugget. Everyone should be rooting for the Lakers to win as much as possible and heres why. Everyone knows that the Lakers have to give up their pick to the Sixers if its not top 3. What is rarely discussed is the fact that they also owe the Magic a 1st rd pick. If the Lakers keep their pick this year then the 2019 pick they owe becomes 2nd rds. If they lose the pick to the Sixers this year they also lose a 1st in 19.
So all in all everyone should should root for them to win games to not give Philly a good pick but also it wouldnt allow them to keep their 19 pick either.
Here's some perspective on the numbers:
The Nets have played .200 ball to date. Suppose they improve to .333 for the rest of the way, which is a substantial change. They'd end up 21-61.
To "catch" them, the Lakers would need to go 5-28, which is .150 ball, and they've played .327 ball to date.
So basically, this is very, very unlikely to happen.
Now, keep in mind that even if this low-probability event happens, all it does is reduce our chances at the #1 pick from 25% to 20%, and for a top 3 pick from 64% to 56%.
Just to put some numbers on things, if you think there's a 10% chance that someone else catches the Nets, then our probabilities of getting picks are:
#1 pick: 24.5%
Top 3: 63.4%
Whereas if the season ended today, they would be:
#1 pick: 25%
Top 3: 64.3%
The upshot: for all practical purposes, our odds of getting the #1 pick are pretty close to what they'd be if the season ended today, even looking out to the end of the season and allowing for a sensible chance that someone catches BKN.
Not totally out of the realm of possibility, given that they went 6-23 after a 10-10 start. But yes, I am cherry picking my numbers and time frame.
Mike
Nice work. I will say that it will be hard for the Nets to catch the Lakers considering the Lakers have a 7 game cushion in the win column. Lakers have played 49 games with 33 to go. Even winning 4 of those games puts a ton of pressure on the Nets.
Here is another little nugget. Everyone should be rooting for the Lakers to win as much as possible and heres why. Everyone knows that the Lakers have to give up their pick to the Sixers if its not top 3. What is rarely discussed is the fact that they also owe the Magic a 1st rd pick. If the Lakers keep their pick this year then the 2019 pick they owe becomes 2nd rds. If they lose the pick to the Sixers this year they also lose a 1st in 19.
So all in all everyone should should root for them to win games to not give Philly a good pick but also it wouldnt allow them to keep their 19 pick either.
No, we should be hoping for them to lose as much as possible and stay in the bottom two (but not below the Nets!). I'd much rather the Lakers get a top pick this draft that is guard-heavy than the Sixers, who could very well project to be a dominant force with another franchise-level player to add to the mix.
However, with their current winning streak and some luck from the Lakers staying in the top 3, they could ultimately only have a mid lottery pick in this draft, which would slow them down a bit in their development without any real rotation level guards on their roster.
The Sixers core frightens me more than LAs does. Id rather see the Lakers get a top 3 pick then see Philly get a 3-6 range pick.Here's some perspective on the numbers:
The Nets have played .200 ball to date. Suppose they improve to .333 for the rest of the way, which is a substantial change. They'd end up 21-61.
To "catch" them, the Lakers would need to go 5-28, which is .150 ball, and they've played .327 ball to date.
So basically, this is very, very unlikely to happen.
Now, keep in mind that even if this low-probability event happens, all it does is reduce our chances at the #1 pick from 25% to 20%, and for a top 3 pick from 64% to 56%.
Just to put some numbers on things, if you think there's a 10% chance that someone else catches the Nets, then our probabilities of getting picks are:
#1 pick: 24.5%
Top 3: 63.4%
Whereas if the season ended today, they would be:
#1 pick: 25%
Top 3: 64.3%
The upshot: for all practical purposes, our odds of getting the #1 pick are pretty close to what they'd be if the season ended today, even looking out to the end of the season and allowing for a sensible chance that someone catches BKN.
Not totally out of the realm of possibility, given that they went 6-23 after a 10-10 start. But yes, I am cherry picking my numbers and time frame.
Mike
Nice work. I will say that it will be hard for the Nets to catch the Lakers considering the Lakers have a 7 game cushion in the win column. Lakers have played 49 games with 33 to go. Even winning 4 of those games puts a ton of pressure on the Nets.
Here is another little nugget. Everyone should be rooting for the Lakers to win as much as possible and heres why. Everyone knows that the Lakers have to give up their pick to the Sixers if its not top 3. What is rarely discussed is the fact that they also owe the Magic a 1st rd pick. If the Lakers keep their pick this year then the 2019 pick they owe becomes 2nd rds. If they lose the pick to the Sixers this year they also lose a 1st in 19.
So all in all everyone should should root for them to win games to not give Philly a good pick but also it wouldnt allow them to keep their 19 pick either.
No, we should be hoping for them to lose as much as possible and stay in the bottom two (but not below the Nets!). I'd much rather the Lakers get a top pick this draft that is guard-heavy than the Sixers, who could very well project to be a dominant force with another franchise-level player to add to the mix.
However, with their current winning streak and some luck from the Lakers staying in the top 3, they could ultimately only have a mid lottery pick in this draft, which would slow them down a bit in their development without any real rotation level guards on their roster.
I dont understand this at all. If the Lakers finished 6th and gave the pick up to the Sixers and they lose their 19 1st rd pick why would you be in favor of them keeping the pick and getting a top player?
The Sixers core frightens me more than LAs does. Id rather see the Lakers get a top 3 pick then see Philly get a 3-6 range pick.[/b]Here's some perspective on the numbers:
The Nets have played .200 ball to date. Suppose they improve to .333 for the rest of the way, which is a substantial change. They'd end up 21-61.
To "catch" them, the Lakers would need to go 5-28, which is .150 ball, and they've played .327 ball to date.
So basically, this is very, very unlikely to happen.
Now, keep in mind that even if this low-probability event happens, all it does is reduce our chances at the #1 pick from 25% to 20%, and for a top 3 pick from 64% to 56%.
Just to put some numbers on things, if you think there's a 10% chance that someone else catches the Nets, then our probabilities of getting picks are:
#1 pick: 24.5%
Top 3: 63.4%
Whereas if the season ended today, they would be:
#1 pick: 25%
Top 3: 64.3%
The upshot: for all practical purposes, our odds of getting the #1 pick are pretty close to what they'd be if the season ended today, even looking out to the end of the season and allowing for a sensible chance that someone catches BKN.
Not totally out of the realm of possibility, given that they went 6-23 after a 10-10 start. But yes, I am cherry picking my numbers and time frame.
Mike
Nice work. I will say that it will be hard for the Nets to catch the Lakers considering the Lakers have a 7 game cushion in the win column. Lakers have played 49 games with 33 to go. Even winning 4 of those games puts a ton of pressure on the Nets.
Here is another little nugget. Everyone should be rooting for the Lakers to win as much as possible and heres why. Everyone knows that the Lakers have to give up their pick to the Sixers if its not top 3. What is rarely discussed is the fact that they also owe the Magic a 1st rd pick. If the Lakers keep their pick this year then the 2019 pick they owe becomes 2nd rds. If they lose the pick to the Sixers this year they also lose a 1st in 19.
So all in all everyone should should root for them to win games to not give Philly a good pick but also it wouldnt allow them to keep their 19 pick either.
No, we should be hoping for them to lose as much as possible and stay in the bottom two (but not below the Nets!). I'd much rather the Lakers get a top pick this draft that is guard-heavy than the Sixers, who could very well project to be a dominant force with another franchise-level player to add to the mix.
However, with their current winning streak and some luck from the Lakers staying in the top 3, they could ultimately only have a mid lottery pick in this draft, which would slow them down a bit in their development without any real rotation level guards on their roster.
I dont understand this at all. If the Lakers finished 6th and gave the pick up to the Sixers and they lose their 19 1st rd pick why would you be in favor of them keeping the pick and getting a top player?
I absolutely do not want to see the Lakers get an undeserved top pick in this draft and KEEP their '19 pick. Being scared of future Philly is reasonable, but this is the freakin' Lakers we are taking about and we just can't let them pass us in championships. This is like the most important thing in the NBA world.Bingo
The Sixers core frightens me more than LAs does. Id rather see the Lakers get a top 3 pick then see Philly get a 3-6 range pick.[/b]
Pretty much this. The Sixers have a nice core of big guys right now, but they're absolutely empty on decent, rotation-level guards. You add someone like a Smith to that group, and they could be dangerous down the line.
The Lakers are much less stacked, and if between the two one of them would become a superteam, I'd rather it be the Lakers in the West rather than the Sixers in the East, let alone our own division.
The Sixers core frightens me more than LAs does. Id rather see the Lakers get a top 3 pick then see Philly get a 3-6 range pick.[/b]
Pretty much this. The Sixers have a nice core of big guys right now, but they're absolutely empty on decent, rotation-level guards. You add someone like a Smith to that group, and they could be dangerous down the line.
The Lakers are much less stacked, and if between the two one of them would become a superteam, I'd rather it be the Lakers in the West rather than the Sixers in the East, let alone our own division.
I simmed the lottery the other day and Philly got #1 and #4. NOOOOOOOOOO!!!
Here are the things that I think:Whos that? Ayton and Doncic?
1. I think Philly will end up in the 9th or 10th spot based on Embiid and their current confidence.
2. At 16 wins, the Lakers still have just as much a chance to finish in the 6th spot as they do the 2nd spot despite their current level of play.
3. I would much rather see the Lakers lose their 17 and 19 picks than worry about giving the 17 pick to the Sixers.
4. After rewatching some of the prospects in the 18 draft, I think the top 2 players have higher upsides than players in the 17 draft.
5. Outside of the top 6 minus whatever Giles turns into, Im not worried about Philly or anyone else getting a star player. Could they? Yes but I dont see players than Im willing to bank on being stars.
6. I dont see how this pick isnt top 4 based on how far ahead teams are from Brooklyn.
4. After rewatching some of the prospects in the 18 draft, I think the top 2 players have higher upsides than players in the 17 draft.I see this said every year:
Here are the things that I think:Whos that? Ayton and Doncic?
1. I think Philly will end up in the 9th or 10th spot based on Embiid and their current confidence.
2. At 16 wins, the Lakers still have just as much a chance to finish in the 6th spot as they do the 2nd spot despite their current level of play.
3. I would much rather see the Lakers lose their 17 and 19 picks than worry about giving the 17 pick to the Sixers.
4. After rewatching some of the prospects in the 18 draft, I think the top 2 players have higher upsides than players in the 17 draft.
5. Outside of the top 6 minus whatever Giles turns into, Im not worried about Philly or anyone else getting a star player. Could they? Yes but I dont see players than Im willing to bank on being stars.
6. I dont see how this pick isnt top 4 based on how far ahead teams are from Brooklyn.
The Sixers core frightens me more than LAs does. Id rather see the Lakers get a top 3 pick then see Philly get a 3-6 range pick.[/b]
Pretty much this. The Sixers have a nice core of big guys right now, but they're absolutely empty on decent, rotation-level guards. You add someone like a Smith to that group, and they could be dangerous down the line.
The Lakers are much less stacked, and if between the two one of them would become a superteam, I'd rather it be the Lakers in the West rather than the Sixers in the East, let alone our own division.
I simmed the lottery the other day and Philly got #1 and #4. NOOOOOOOOOO!!!
Quote4. After rewatching some of the prospects in the 18 draft, I think the top 2 players have higher upsides than players in the 17 draft.I see this said every year:
We have to get Wiggins...nah...Towns and Okafor are better we will get one of them next year.
We have to get Towns or Okafor...nah...Simmons and Ingram are better we will get one of them next year.
We have to get Simmons or Ingram...nah...Fultz and Ball are better we will get them next year.
We have to get Ball or Fultz...nah...two guys coming out next year are better.
And people wonder why I don't pay any attention to scouting 17 and 18 year olds
Quote4. After rewatching some of the prospects in the 18 draft, I think the top 2 players have higher upsides than players in the 17 draft.I see this said every year:
We have to get Wiggins...nah...Towns and Okafor are better we will get one of them next year.
We have to get Towns or Okafor...nah...Simmons and Ingram are better we will get one of them next year.
We have to get Simmons or Ingram...nah...Fultz and Ball are better we will get them next year.
We have to get Ball or Fultz...nah...two guys coming out next year are better.
And people wonder why I don't pay any attention to scouting 17 and 18 year olds
Quote4. After rewatching some of the prospects in the 18 draft, I think the top 2 players have higher upsides than players in the 17 draft.I see this said every year:
We have to get Wiggins...nah...Towns and Okafor are better we will get one of them next year.
We have to get Towns or Okafor...nah...Simmons and Ingram are better we will get one of them next year.
We have to get Simmons or Ingram...nah...Fultz and Ball are better we will get them next year.
We have to get Ball or Fultz...nah...two guys coming out next year are better.
And people wonder why I don't pay any attention to scouting 17 and 18 year olds
Towns and Okafor were more enticing than Wiggins because they were both Bigs and Embiid was injured. There's also not much people who are saying they preferred Simmons and Ingram over Towns. SImmons and Ingram was actually preferred by a lot last year than Ball and Fultz because both are guards and we have a ton of those.
Quote4. After rewatching some of the prospects in the 18 draft, I think the top 2 players have higher upsides than players in the 17 draft.I see this said every year:
We have to get Wiggins...nah...Towns and Okafor are better we will get one of them next year.
We have to get Towns or Okafor...nah...Simmons and Ingram are better we will get one of them next year.
We have to get Simmons or Ingram...nah...Fultz and Ball are better we will get them next year.
We have to get Ball or Fultz...nah...two guys coming out next year are better.
And people wonder why I don't pay any attention to scouting 17 and 18 year olds
Towns and Okafor were more enticing than Wiggins because they were both Bigs and Embiid was injured. There's also not much people who are saying they preferred Simmons and Ingram over Towns. SImmons and Ingram was actually preferred by a lot last year than Ball and Fultz because both are guards and we have a ton of those.
no doncic? not sure how you compiled this list. please provide the methodology and stats.
thanks.
no doncic? not sure how you compiled this list. please provide the methodology and stats.
thanks.
no doncic? not sure how you compiled this list. please provide the methodology and stats.
thanks.
He hasn't watched Doncic, and thus has a major gap. (Not being snarky, cleveland, I just think I remember you saying that to me a day or two ago.)
fair enough. thanks for the response and a tp for you.no doncic? not sure how you compiled this list. please provide the methodology and stats.
thanks.
He hasn't watched Doncic, and thus has a major gap. (Not being snarky, cleveland, I just think I remember you saying that to me a day or two ago.)
That is absolutely correct. I have not seen enough of him to make a definitive statement on him. I have seen very small pieces of action on Doncic. From all reports he is as good as Ayton and Porter but I havent seen it so I try not to make definitive statements.
I hope Cleveland wins tonight and breaks their spirit for the rest of the season.
Was that too harsh?
If the Cavaliers somehow lose this, then man, Lebron is going to throw a HUGE tantrum and probably trade guys left and right lol.
If the Cavaliers somehow lose this, then man, Lebron is going to throw a HUGE tantrum and probably trade guys left and right lol.
TP.... that would be entertaining!
Miraculously, the Heat are about to finish off a 6 game winning streak against the Bulls tonight.
Apparently my earlier worries of the Heat catching the Nets was a little premature :o
Miraculously, the Heat are about to finish off a 6 game winning streak against the Bulls tonight.
Apparently my earlier worries of the Heat catching the Nets was a little premature :o
Riley can't be happy about this.
He needs to get Dragic out of there ASAP.
I'm not completely ready to write Brooklyn off as a lock for the worst team in the league, as crazy as that sounds given how bad they've been. Mainly because there's still lots of season left, and other bottom dwelling teams can make pro-tank moves. It's very likely though. It's impossible to ask for anything better than what has transpired so far.
If we want to worry about anything, something that many of us excel at, it should be about ping pong balls. But that's the next step. :)
Mike
I'm not completely ready to write Brooklyn off as a lock for the worst team in the league, as crazy as that sounds given how bad they've been.
Heat beat the Pistons
Wolves destroy the Nets.
Everything's coming up Millhouse :)
I'm not completely ready to write Brooklyn off as a lock for the worst team in the league, as crazy as that sounds given how bad they've been. Mainly because there's still lots of season left, and other bottom dwelling teams can make pro-tank moves. It's very likely though. It's impossible to ask for anything better than what has transpired so far.
Pretty amazing that Miami went from just three games up in the win column to not even a threat anymore. I find it pretty amazing that at this moment the heat have the longest winning streak in the NBA and it is by a significant amount, they have won 7 in a row next longest in the entire league is 3 in a row.I stopped checking up on the standings about a month ago
If Phoenix and the lakers could just have one good week we might not even need to check up on this anymore.
Looks like we're entering a choppy stretch before the All-Star break. This week is soft: At Miami, home against the Nets and then home against Indy. Miami favored by nine tonight, but that may be the toughest of the three games.
Versus the Knicks on Wednesday, who will be on the 2nd night of a back-to-back. Let's hope that they don't decide to rest Melo against the Nets. That game makes me nervous.
Home against Indy on Friday. Indy is on the first night of a b-t-b, so we again run into potential rest issues.
I don't expect BKN to come out of this three game stretch with more than one win, and I'd almost be ready to call it game over if they don't win any.
Five games after that in nine days. @CLT, then four at home vs. Washington, Miami, Memphis and Milwaukee. They may go winless in that run.
After the break, we've got a seven game road trip. Hee hee.
Mike
Looks like we're entering a choppy stretch before the All-Star break. This week is soft: At Miami, home against the Nets and then home against Indy. Miami favored by nine tonight, but that may be the toughest of the three games.
Versus the Knicks on Wednesday, who will be on the 2nd night of a back-to-back. Let's hope that they don't decide to rest Melo against the Nets. That game makes me nervous.
Home against Indy on Friday. Indy is on the first night of a b-t-b, so we again run into potential rest issues.
I don't expect BKN to come out of this three game stretch with more than one win, and I'd almost be ready to call it game over if they don't win any.
Five games after that in nine days. @CLT, then four at home vs. Washington, Miami, Memphis and Milwaukee. They may go winless in that run.
After the break, we've got a seven game road trip. Hee hee.
Mike
I don't know -- I think the Nets can figure out how to lose to themselves.
Looks like we're entering a choppy stretch before the All-Star break. This week is soft: At Miami, home against the Nets and then home against Indy. Miami favored by nine tonight, but that may be the toughest of the three games.
Versus the Knicks on Wednesday, who will be on the 2nd night of a back-to-back.Let's hope that they don't decide to rest Melo against the Nets.That game makes me nervous.[/glow]
Home against Indy on Friday. Indy is on the first night of a b-t-b, so we again run into potential rest issues.
I don't expect BKN to come out of this three game stretch with more than one win, and I'd almost be ready to call it game over if they don't win any.
Five games after that in nine days. @CLT, then four at home vs. Washington, Miami, Memphis and Milwaukee. They may go winless in that run.
After the break, we've got a seven game road trip. Hee hee.
Mike
I don't know -- I think the Nets can figure out how to lose to themselves.
At least Josh Jackson and Jonathan Isaac are balling...so the Celtics could pick one of them after Fultz and Ball are off the board...either one of those guys could be the best player in this draft.
Miami's 8 game winning streak has Pat Riley attempting to tear out his hair.
Miami's 8 game winning streak has Pat Riley attempting to tear out his hair.
That's the beauty to tanking. A GM can try and tank all they want, but the players and coach refuse to buy in.
Mike
Miami's 8 game winning streak has Pat Riley attempting to tear out his hair.
That's the beauty to tanking. A GM can try and tank all they want, but the players and coach refuse to buy in.
Mike
That's why the Nets went full Billy King. You never go full Billy King. Never.
Miami's 8 game winning streak has Pat Riley attempting to tear out his hair.
That's the beauty to tanking. A GM can try and tank all they want, but the players and coach refuse to buy in.
Mike
That's why the Nets went full Billy King. You never go full Billy King. Never.
I've never met Billy King. I've never spoken to Billy King. I wouldn't know who he was if I saw him walking down the street.
But I'm pretty sure that I love Billy King.
Mike
Miami's 8 game winning streak has Pat Riley attempting to tear out his hair.
That's the beauty to tanking. A GM can try and tank all they want, but the players and coach refuse to buy in.
Mike
That's why the Nets went full Billy King. You never go full Billy King. Never.
I've never met Billy King. I've never spoken to Billy King. I wouldn't know who he was if I saw him walking down the street.
But I'm pretty sure that I love Billy King.
Mike
I'd buy him a Sam Adams and invite him over to see the masterpiece he created on CSNNE.
Nets lose again.
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Nets lose again.
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Nets lose again.
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This is pretty ridiculous
What a glorious day!
Celtics win
Raptors lose
Netswinlose
Hawks lose
Heat win
What a glorious day!
Celtics win
Raptors lose
Netswinlose
Hawks lose
Heat win
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What a glorious day!
Celtics win
Raptors lose
Nets win
Hawks lose
Heat win
The Nets now have a 98.8% percent chance of having the worst record this year!!!I actually said it was 99% about a week ago but I'll take their word for it :)
http://www.basketball-reference.com/friv/proj_draft.html
Nets lose again.
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You actually admit to watching the Nets play? God bless (more like help) you!Nets lose again.
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That game was awful. It was like both teams were trying to lose. I guess the Nets just wanted it more.
Mike
You actually admit to watching the Nets play? God bless (more like help) you!Nets lose again.
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That game was awful. It was like both teams were trying to lose. I guess the Nets just wanted it more.
Mike
Its actually kinda fun to be able to be really invested in rooting for some players you usually look at as either the enemy or just another guy.You actually admit to watching the Nets play? God bless (more like help) you!Nets lose again.
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That game was awful. It was like both teams were trying to lose. I guess the Nets just wanted it more.
Mike
What a glorious day!
Celtics win
Raptors lose
Netswinlose
Hawks lose
Heat win
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sorry lol was too pumped up to notice. a Nets loss is always a win though
Don't think it matters if the Nets trade Lopez or not. With him on the team they are on a pace to win 16 games which means the Suns would have to lose every single game the rest of the year in order to overtake the Nets as worst team. With or without Lopez, the Nets are the worst team in the league and it really isn't close..This. Great post. I won't be surprised if the nba screws us again and gives us the 4th pick
My only worry is ping pong balls. Has been all year. Has been ever since the Duncan draft lottery.
But they were a playoff team 5 years ago?
And they've been ravaged by injuries...
Your math is off. The Nets only have 33 games leftBut they were a playoff team 5 years ago?
And they've been ravaged by injuries...
:D
I will say, not having Jeremy Lin does hurt them but, even with him, they're still scraping along the bottom. I've gotta think that, if they look like this, Lopez and Lin get the month of April off. Well, at least Lopez.
39 games to go, six games back, and they just finished a streak of "easy" games, with losses to Minnesota and Miami. Including tonight, six of their next seven are at home, but they've got Indy (who looks good all of a sudden), Toronto (feels weird to be rooting for them; maybe I won't), @CLT (who knows), Washington (who looks like they may never lose again) and Milwaukee (back to "who knows"). March starts off with a six game road trip out west. Start rooting for ping pong balls. And don't forget, it actually worked in our favor last year: Our most likely draft spot was fifth.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NBA_draft_lottery
My only advice is to stay away from the simulators. They hate us and you don't want to get too depressed.
Mike
I got the nº 1 pick for us every time I've used a simulator. I promise I won't do it again until the lottery to keep the good flavour :-X
Your math is off. The Nets only have 33 games leftBut they were a playoff team 5 years ago?
And they've been ravaged by injuries...
:D
I will say, not having Jeremy Lin does hurt them but, even with him, they're still scraping along the bottom. I've gotta think that, if they look like this, Lopez and Lin get the month of April off. Well, at least Lopez.
39 games to go, six games back, and they just finished a streak of "easy" games, with losses to Minnesota and Miami. Including tonight, six of their next seven are at home, but they've got Indy (who looks good all of a sudden), Toronto (feels weird to be rooting for them; maybe I won't), @CLT (who knows), Washington (who looks like they may never lose again) and Milwaukee (back to "who knows"). March starts off with a six game road trip out west. Start rooting for ping pong balls. And don't forget, it actually worked in our favor last year: Our most likely draft spot was fifth.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NBA_draft_lottery
My only advice is to stay away from the simulators. They hate us and you don't want to get too depressed.
Mike
I got the nº 1 pick for us every time I've used a simulator. I promise I won't do it again until the lottery to keep the good flavour :-X
TP Dario. I did the same thing. 3x in a row about a week and a half ago. I shut down my computer, and have pledged not to go on a simulator until the lotto. Gotta keep this luck up.
Nets came back from 12 points down vs the Pacers....
But thankfully, the Pacers still won :)
Orlando wins too.
BOOM.
I got the nº 1 pick for us every time I've used a simulator. I promise I won't do it again until the lottery to keep the good flavour :-X
TP Dario. I did the same thing. 3x in a row about a week and a half ago. I shut down my computer, and have pledged not to go on a simulator until the lotto. Gotta keep this luck up.
**** mysticism.
Nets lose.
Raptors lose.
Celtics pass the Lakers for all time wins total.
Stevens will coach the All-Star Game.
Today is a good day.
Yogi Ferrell, who the Nets waived after he played 10 games this season, had a 22 point first half for Dallas against Portland. Has 29 points in the 4th. ;D
As A Future of Stevens said, it is a mix of superstition and entertainment (TP, buddy). With the Suns win, the moment when we only have to worry about the ping pong balls is more obvious than ever.
It's hard to think the Nets will reach the 16 wins mark, even more if they try to unload some talent at the deadline or rest them to prevent injuries in April.
Edit: I would appreciate some Tommy Points. Currently, I am Tyler Zeller ;D
As A Future of Stevens said, it is a mix of superstition and entertainment (TP, buddy). With the Suns win, the moment when we only have to worry about the ping pong balls is more obvious than ever.
It's hard to think the Nets will reach the 16 wins mark, even more if they try to unload some talent at the deadline or rest them to prevent injuries in April.
Edit: I would appreciate some Tommy Points. Currently, I am Tyler Zeller ;D
Being Tyler Zeller isn't dependant on how many TP's you have but how many posts you've made, so essentially the more you post the better ranked you become including eventually getting stars.
Since this year's worst record is pretty much in the bag...do you think they could save some of these losses for next season?
Since this year's worst record is pretty much in the bag...do you think they could save some of these losses for next season?
Don't worry. With that roster there will be plenty of those.
Unfortunately, the advantage of most pong-pong balls is hasn't been the most secure advantage in the world.
The other pessimistic view is that one (or both) of our historically biggest rivals will do very well on lottery night. Philly is back to looking like they have a legit shot at two top 5 picks, or, the Lakers pull out another top 3. The way I look at things, the surest bet on this earth is that LAL will come away with one of the top 2 picks. I don't believe in conspiracies or fixes, I do believe in Laker luck. Sadly, on the miniscule chance that Laker Luck doesn't hold, Philly gets yet another great pick.
I see this as house money. I'm fine with anything in the top 3 of the draft. Ultimately, lookibg back, you will have acquired 3 possible top 3 picks for the corpses of Pierce/KG. That's so freaking amazing.
The ping pong balls usually screw the C's. Hoping for some luck in this draft.
Even better. It's like the gift that keeps on giving.I see this as house money. I'm fine with anything in the top 3 of the draft. Ultimately, lookibg back, you will have acquired 3 possible top 3 picks for the corpses of Pierce/KG. That's so freaking amazing.
The ping pong balls usually screw the C's. Hoping for some luck in this draft.
Don't forget, we essentially got IT from that trade too. We used our trade exception from Pierce to get a pick, Zeller, and Thornton from Cleveland a year after we traded Pierce and KG. Then we traded that very same pick and Thornton to Phoenix at the deadline for IT.
I see this as house money. I'm fine with anything in the top 3 of the draft. Ultimately, lookibg back, you will have acquired 3 possible top 3 picks for the corpses of Pierce/KG. That's so freaking amazing.
The ping pong balls usually screw the C's. Hoping for some luck in this draft.
Don't forget, we essentially got IT from that trade too. We used our trade exception from Pierce to get a pick, Zeller, and Thornton from Cleveland a year after we traded Pierce and KG. Then we traded that very same pick and Thornton to Phoenix at the deadline for IT.
I see this as house money. I'm fine with anything in the top 3 of the draft. Ultimately, lookibg back, you will have acquired 3 possible top 3 picks for the corpses of Pierce/KG. That's so freaking amazing.If it its the Cs own then yes we have been pretty unlucky. In 1997 and 10 yrs later. For some reason the Cs and the pingping balls are not a good pair. We don't just win it..we always get screwed big time.
The ping pong balls usually screw the C's. Hoping for some luck in this draft.
Better than the Mchale and parish deal? Wow, maybe. But we won't know for another 3-6 years I think.I see this as house money. I'm fine with anything in the top 3 of the draft. Ultimately, lookibg back, you will have acquired 3 possible top 3 picks for the corpses of Pierce/KG. That's so freaking amazing.
The ping pong balls usually screw the C's. Hoping for some luck in this draft.
Don't forget, we essentially got IT from that trade too. We used our trade exception from Pierce to get a pick, Zeller, and Thornton from Cleveland a year after we traded Pierce and KG. Then we traded that very same pick and Thornton to Phoenix at the deadline for IT.
So will this be the best transaction(s) in Celtics history?
So is it assured we are getting a top 4 pick now? Suns won last night and are now 7 games ahead of the Nets.
Need some Fultz or Jackson in my life.
So is it assured we are getting a top 4 pick now? Suns won last night and are now 7 games ahead of the Nets.Pretty much. So I guess that means we'll have to freeze this thread. ;)
Need some Fultz or Jackson in my life.
dont worry about the thread. it will come back again next year since the nets will still stink. ;DSo is it assured we are getting a top 4 pick now? Suns won last night and are now 7 games ahead of the Nets.Pretty much. So I guess that means we'll have to freeze this thread. ;)
Need some Fultz or Jackson in my life.
Too bad because it's my favorite thread. I think we might have to create an anti-Nets thread in two years, even when we don't own their pick, because it's so [dang] fun.
So is it assured we are getting a top 4 pick now? Suns won last night and are now 7 games ahead of the Nets.
Need some Fultz or Jackson in my life.
dont worry about the thread. it will come back again next year since the nets will still stink. ;DSo is it assured we are getting a top 4 pick now? Suns won last night and are now 7 games ahead of the Nets.Pretty much. So I guess that means we'll have to freeze this thread. ;)
Need some Fultz or Jackson in my life.
Too bad because it's my favorite thread. I think we might have to create an anti-Nets thread in two years, even when we don't own their pick, because it's so [dang] fun.
this is really fun.
dont worry about the thread. it will come back again next year since the nets will still stink. ;DSo is it assured we are getting a top 4 pick now? Suns won last night and are now 7 games ahead of the Nets.Pretty much. So I guess that means we'll have to freeze this thread. ;)
Need some Fultz or Jackson in my life.
Too bad because it's my favorite thread. I think we might have to create an anti-Nets thread in two years, even when we don't own their pick, because it's so [dang] fun.
this is really fun.
2017 second round draft pick to Brooklyn
Indiana's 2nd round pick to Brooklyn protected for selections 45-60 in 2017, 45-60 in 2018, 45-60 in 2019, 45-60 in 2020, 45-60 in 2021 and 45-60 in 2022 and unprotected in 2023 [Brooklyn-Indiana, 7/7/2016]
NETS down 13 at home to Derozen-less Raptors team and their players are laughing it up on the bench. I think they have given up on the season.
Lakers beat Knicks
Suns lose to NO but that's kinda win win.
The ball keeps rolling.
Lakers beat Knicks
Suns lose to NO but that's kinda win win.
The ball keeps rolling.
Due to these events...the Nets' odds of having the worst record have INCREASED from 99.3% to 99.5%.
We are REALLY close to putting this puppy to bed (worst record, that is)... ;D
http://www.basketball-reference.com/friv/proj_draft.html
Lakers beat Knicks
Suns lose to NO but that's kinda win win.
The ball keeps rolling.
Due to these events...the Nets' odds of having the worst record have INCREASED from 99.3% to 99.5%.
We are REALLY close to putting this puppy to bed (worst record, that is)... ;D
http://www.basketball-reference.com/friv/proj_draft.html
If the Nets doubled their existing winning percentage for the remainder of the season (i.e., a .352 win percentage), they'd end the season with 20 wins. There is only one other team in the entire NBA that is not within two games of 20 wins: Phoenix at 16.
I'm feeling pretty good.
Mike
Lakers beat Knicks
Suns lose to NO but that's kinda win win.
The ball keeps rolling.
Due to these events...the Nets' odds of having the worst record have INCREASED from 99.3% to 99.5%.
We are REALLY close to putting this puppy to bed (worst record, that is)... ;D
http://www.basketball-reference.com/friv/proj_draft.html
If the Nets doubled their existing winning percentage for the remainder of the season (i.e., a .352 win percentage), they'd end the season with 20 wins. There is only one other team in the entire NBA that is not within two games of 20 wins: Phoenix at 16.
I'm feeling pretty good.
Mike
Are people even following their games anymore?
Nah...that'll be wishful thinking.Lakers beat Knicks
Suns lose to NO but that's kinda win win.
The ball keeps rolling.
Due to these events...the Nets' odds of having the worst record have INCREASED from 99.3% to 99.5%.
We are REALLY close to putting this puppy to bed (worst record, that is)... ;D
http://www.basketball-reference.com/friv/proj_draft.html
If the Nets doubled their existing winning percentage for the remainder of the season (i.e., a .352 win percentage), they'd end the season with 20 wins. There is only one other team in the entire NBA that is not within two games of 20 wins: Phoenix at 16.
I'm feeling pretty good.
Mike
Are people even following their games anymore?
I peek at the score so as to not get complacent, but I wouldn't mind if they beat Washington tomorrow, for example.
are 1-21 in their last 22 games.
That is truly remarkable.
are 1-21 in their last 22 games.
That is truly remarkable.
are 1-21 in their last 22 games.
That is truly remarkable.
I am not quite sure if remarkable is the right word here. ;D
There's still a chance that team might play itself out of the bottom 5.
Yes, they are "ravaged" by a Jeremy Lin injury.There's still a chance that team might play itself out of the bottom 5.
I presume this chance has vanished?
;D
Yes, they are "ravaged" by a Jeremy Lin injury.There's still a chance that team might play itself out of the bottom 5.
I presume this chance has vanished?
;D
I'm not going to lie - I'm secretly hoping for the Nets to win this and put a bit more separation between Boston and Washington. They've built a big enough lead for themselves that they should be safe to win a game like this.
I was hoping for the Nets to win, actually just this time to gain a cushion over the Wizards in HCA.
It's a shame some people were conflicted over who they wanted to lose. That was a quality L.yeah really demotivating thats for sure.
a stroll down memory lane folks.
over on Sosh, i found the Nets Daily post from draft day 2013 when the big trade with the nets took place.
the article is not that interesting, but the comments from the nets fans are fun to read. among my favorites:
"The picks are going to be in the 25-30 range."
"I hope we don't give up Toko Shengelia to Boston."
enjoy on a friday. ;D
http://www.netsdaily.com/2013/6/27/4472938/nets-acquire-garnett-pierce#comments
Chance of them having one of the two worst records...100%!!!
http://www.basketball-reference.com/friv/proj_draft.html
how about this poor fellaa stroll down memory lane folks.
over on Sosh, i found the Nets Daily post from draft day 2013 when the big trade with the nets took place.
the article is not that interesting, but the comments from the nets fans are fun to read. among my favorites:
"The picks are going to be in the 25-30 range."
"I hope we don't give up Toko Shengelia to Boston."
enjoy on a friday. ;D
http://www.netsdaily.com/2013/6/27/4472938/nets-acquire-garnett-pierce#comments
Wow...sick burn!
How cruel of you... ;D
a stroll down memory lane folks.
over on Sosh, i found the Nets Daily post from draft day 2013 when the big trade with the nets took place.
the article is not that interesting, but the comments from the nets fans are fun to read. among my favorites:
"The picks are going to be in the 25-30 range."
"I hope we don't give up Toko Shengelia to Boston."
enjoy on a friday. ;D
http://www.netsdaily.com/2013/6/27/4472938/nets-acquire-garnett-pierce#comments
In fairness, Toko Shengelia did have one fantastic season with the Springfield Armor...a stroll down memory lane folks.
over on Sosh, i found the Nets Daily post from draft day 2013 when the big trade with the nets took place.
the article is not that interesting, but the comments from the nets fans are fun to read. among my favorites:
"The picks are going to be in the 25-30 range."
"I hope we don't give up Toko Shengelia to Boston."
enjoy on a friday. ;D
http://www.netsdaily.com/2013/6/27/4472938/nets-acquire-garnett-pierce#comments
Billy King---Executive of the Year---! Hysterical-!
a stroll down memory lane folks.
over on Sosh, i found the Nets Daily post from draft day 2013 when the big trade with the nets took place.
the article is not that interesting, but the comments from the nets fans are fun to read. among my favorites:
"The picks are going to be in the 25-30 range."
"I hope we don't give up Toko Shengelia to Boston."
enjoy on a friday. ;D
http://www.netsdaily.com/2013/6/27/4472938/nets-acquire-garnett-pierce#comments
Billy King---Executive of the Year---! Hysterical-!
a stroll down memory lane folks.
over on Sosh, i found the Nets Daily post from draft day 2013 when the big trade with the nets took place.
the article is not that interesting, but the comments from the nets fans are fun to read. among my favorites:
"The picks are going to be in the 25-30 range."
"I hope we don't give up Toko Shengelia to Boston."
enjoy on a friday. ;D
http://www.netsdaily.com/2013/6/27/4472938/nets-acquire-garnett-pierce#comments
Is there protection on the 2016 and 2018 picks?
This year's lottery slot is a foregone conclusion, but these losses might still increase the value of the 2018 pick.
You want the ownership who agreed to make the trade to give away all of those draft picks to suddenly smarten up and do the right thing? Will Ranadive do what we want? Will Dolan become a model owner? It makes sense to most people to get whatever they can for Lopez but some of these owners don't approve of what makes sense.This year's lottery slot is a foregone conclusion, but these losses might still increase the value of the 2018 pick.
I think at this point the Nets absolutely need to trade Lopez for future picks/young talent. That would be tremendous for our 2018 pick.
It just doesn't make sense to limp into next season with a similar squad and a dearth of young talent to build for the future. LeVert is the lone bright spot on the team. RHJ does a few good things but is extremely flawed. Whitehead wouldn't get playing time on a decent team. The rest of their young players aren't worth anything.
Phoenix pick up another win against old friend Rondo!
This thread is OVER.
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Phoenix pick up another win against old friend Rondo!Over?, it's not over until I say it's over! ;D
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You want the ownership who agreed to make the trade to give away all of those draft picks to suddenly smarten up and do the right thing? Will Ranadive do what we want? Will Dolan become a model owner? It makes sense to most people to get whatever they can for Lopez but some of these owners don't approve of what makes sense.This year's lottery slot is a foregone conclusion, but these losses might still increase the value of the 2018 pick.
I think at this point the Nets absolutely need to trade Lopez for future picks/young talent. That would be tremendous for our 2018 pick.
It just doesn't make sense to limp into next season with a similar squad and a dearth of young talent to build for the future. LeVert is the lone bright spot on the team. RHJ does a few good things but is extremely flawed. Whitehead wouldn't get playing time on a decent team. The rest of their young players aren't worth anything.
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I don't have anything substantive to add, I just kind of felt bad for this thread. I didn't want it to feel neglected. It's been like the Giving Tree, and now we're just down to the stump.
Mike
Brooklyn has lost 12 straight, 23 out of 24, and 40 out of 45. We are far removed from their magical 4-5 start. ANd it' snot looking like it'll get much better anytime soon.
After tonight's game against Memphis they host the Bucks.
Then they go on the road for 8 straight games.
@Denver
@Golden State
@Sacto
@Portland
@Utah
@Memphis
@Atlanta
@Dallas
Should be brutal.
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Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?
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Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?
Is that an in-joke I don't get, or just more evidence that we are truly in the Trump era.
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Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?
Is that an in-joke I don't get, or just more evidence that we are truly in the Trump era.
THE MAGIC NUMBER IS 1!
Sorry for the shouting, I'm just excited. BKN is exactly 27 games behind us, with 27 left to go. One Brooklyn loss or Celtics win between now and the end of the season means that they are switching picks with us.*
I don't like to get ahead of myself on these things, but I'm feeling pretty good about this one.
Mike
*Technically, even if we finish ahead of BKN, we could still be in a situation where we wouldn't switch picks. Without involving trades or other teams, a TP to the first person who can tell me how such a situation could occur.
I have read reports that Brooklyn is prepared to offer Otto Porter a max contract after the season. He will help them but not significantly.Probably a smart move from them. What if they tried to max out Porter and Ibaka? Would they come together on a team with Lopez and Lin? Could that work?
Why is that a smart move? Their smartest move would be to trade Lopez for a first rounder, and take the Philly route of stinking for a few years to get some nice draft picks. If you add Porter and Ibaka, they are likely to be in the mid-end of the lottery (6th-10th) worst record. There is still the hope for lotto luck, but there would be a VERY good chance you get picks in the 8th-12th range, that don't help you change your franchise, and then you are stuck in NBA purgatory. The only way that makes sense is a HUGE overpay on a one year deal just to put butts in the seats since it won't be their pick they are hurting next year. But, not sure if those players would go for huge one year deals ... maybe.I have read reports that Brooklyn is prepared to offer Otto Porter a max contract after the season. He will help them but not significantly.Probably a smart move from them. What if they tried to max out Porter and Ibaka? Would they come together on a team with Lopez and Lin? Could that work?
THE MAGIC NUMBER IS 1!
Sorry for the shouting, I'm just excited. BKN is exactly 27 games behind us, with 27 left to go. One Brooklyn loss or Celtics win between now and the end of the season means that they are switching picks with us.*
I don't like to get ahead of myself on these things, but I'm feeling pretty good about this one.
Mike
*Technically, even if we finish ahead of BKN, we could still be in a situation where we wouldn't switch picks. Without involving trades or other teams, a TP to the first person who can tell me how such a situation could occur.
If both the Cs and Brooklyn were in the lottery and the Celtics pick won it/was higher than the Brooklyn pick even if Brooklyn was worse during the regular season.
Why is that a smart move? Their smartest move would be to trade Lopez for a first rounder, and take the Philly route of stinking for a few years to get some nice draft picks. If you add Porter and Ibaka, they are likely to be in the mid-end of the lottery (6th-10th) worst record. There is still the hope for lotto luck, but there would be a VERY good chance you get picks in the 8th-12th range, that don't help you change your franchise, and then you are stuck in NBA purgatory. The only way that makes sense is a HUGE overpay on a one year deal just to put butts in the seats since it won't be their pick they are hurting next year. But, not sure if those players would go for huge one year deals ... maybe.I have read reports that Brooklyn is prepared to offer Otto Porter a max contract after the season. He will help them but not significantly.Probably a smart move from them. What if they tried to max out Porter and Ibaka? Would they come together on a team with Lopez and Lin? Could that work?
THE MAGIC NUMBER IS 1!
Sorry for the shouting, I'm just excited. BKN is exactly 27 games behind us, with 27 left to go. One Brooklyn loss or Celtics win between now and the end of the season means that they are switching picks with us.*
I don't like to get ahead of myself on these things, but I'm feeling pretty good about this one.
Mike
*Technically, even if we finish ahead of BKN, we could still be in a situation where we wouldn't switch picks. Without involving trades or other teams, a TP to the first person who can tell me how such a situation could occur.
If both the Cs and Brooklyn were in the lottery and the Celtics pick won it/was higher than the Brooklyn pick even if Brooklyn was worse during the regular season.
TP to you.
Mike
THE MAGIC NUMBER IS 1!
Sorry for the shouting, I'm just excited. BKN is exactly 27 games behind us, with 27 left to go. One Brooklyn loss or Celtics win between now and the end of the season means that they are switching picks with us.*
I don't like to get ahead of myself on these things, but I'm feeling pretty good about this one.
Mike
*Technically, even if we finish ahead of BKN, we could still be in a situation where we wouldn't switch picks. Without involving trades or other teams, a TP to the first person who can tell me how such a situation could occur.
If both the Cs and Brooklyn were in the lottery and the Celtics pick won it/was higher than the Brooklyn pick even if Brooklyn was worse during the regular season.
Why is that a smart move? Their smartest move would be to trade Lopez for a first rounder, and take the Philly route of stinking for a few years to get some nice draft picks. If you add Porter and Ibaka, they are likely to be in the mid-end of the lottery (6th-10th) worst record. There is still the hope for lotto luck, but there would be a VERY good chance you get picks in the 8th-12th range, that don't help you change your franchise, and then you are stuck in NBA purgatory. The only way that makes sense is a HUGE overpay on a one year deal just to put butts in the seats since it won't be their pick they are hurting next year. But, not sure if those players would go for huge one year deals ... maybe.I have read reports that Brooklyn is prepared to offer Otto Porter a max contract after the season. He will help them but not significantly.Probably a smart move from them. What if they tried to max out Porter and Ibaka? Would they come together on a team with Lopez and Lin? Could that work?
I have read reports that Brooklyn is prepared to offer Otto Porter a max contract after the season. He will help them but not significantly.Probably a smart move from them. What if they tried to max out Porter and Ibaka? Would they come together on a team with Lopez and Lin? Could that work?
I have read reports that Brooklyn is prepared to offer Otto Porter a max contract after the season. He will help them but not significantly.Probably a smart move from them. What if they tried to max out Porter and Ibaka? Would they come together on a team with Lopez and Lin? Could that work?
Why in the world would either Porter or Ibaka sign with BKN, though? They are just dreadful. Since Toronto just traded for Serge, it is likely they sign him to a pretty hefty deal. They can also offer a 5th year which is humongous with his age concerns.
With Porter, he is going to have several teams lined up to offer max or near max offers (including the Wiz). Assuming he wanted to leave, why wouldn't he choose a team like the Cs over BKN? A lot of things would have to really fall right for BKN to sign anybody of consequence. We saw how things went down this past off-season when they had loads of money to spend.
I have read reports that Brooklyn is prepared to offer Otto Porter a max contract after the season. He will help them but not significantly.Probably a smart move from them. What if they tried to max out Porter and Ibaka? Would they come together on a team with Lopez and Lin? Could that work?
Why in the world would either Porter or Ibaka sign with BKN, though? They are just dreadful. Since Toronto just traded for Serge, it is likely they sign him to a pretty hefty deal. They can also offer a 5th year which is humongous with his age concerns.
With Porter, he is going to have several teams lined up to offer max or near max offers (including the Wiz). Assuming he wanted to leave, why wouldn't he choose a team like the Cs over BKN? A lot of things would have to really fall right for BKN to sign anybody of consequence. We saw how things went down this past off-season when they had loads of money to spend.
I have read reports that Brooklyn is prepared to offer Otto Porter a max contract after the season. He will help them but not significantly.Probably a smart move from them. What if they tried to max out Porter and Ibaka? Would they come together on a team with Lopez and Lin? Could that work?
Why in the world would either Porter or Ibaka sign with BKN, though? They are just dreadful. Since Toronto just traded for Serge, it is likely they sign him to a pretty hefty deal. They can also offer a 5th year which is humongous with his age concerns.
With Porter, he is going to have several teams lined up to offer max or near max offers (including the Wiz). Assuming he wanted to leave, why wouldn't he choose a team like the Cs over BKN? A lot of things would have to really fall right for BKN to sign anybody of consequence. We saw how things went down this past off-season when they had loads of money to spend.
Porter's been third fiddle in Washington, he might like the opportunity to show he's capable of being the lead dog. Of course, he's restricted, and Washington could match (although I'm on record as saying they won't if he's offered the max.)
I have read reports that Brooklyn is prepared to offer Otto Porter a max contract after the season. He will help them but not significantly.Probably a smart move from them. What if they tried to max out Porter and Ibaka? Would they come together on a team with Lopez and Lin? Could that work?
Why in the world would either Porter or Ibaka sign with BKN, though? They are just dreadful. Since Toronto just traded for Serge, it is likely they sign him to a pretty hefty deal. They can also offer a 5th year which is humongous with his age concerns.
With Porter, he is going to have several teams lined up to offer max or near max offers (including the Wiz). Assuming he wanted to leave, why wouldn't he choose a team like the Cs over BKN? A lot of things would have to really fall right for BKN to sign anybody of consequence. We saw how things went down this past off-season when they had loads of money to spend.
Porter's been third fiddle in Washington, he might like the opportunity to show he's capable of being the lead dog. Of course, he's restricted, and Washington could match (although I'm on record as saying they won't if he's offered the max.)
Good point. I don't think Brooklyn will be the only team offering Porter the max though.
I have read reports that Brooklyn is prepared to offer Otto Porter a max contract after the season. He will help them but not significantly.Probably a smart move from them. What if they tried to max out Porter and Ibaka? Would they come together on a team with Lopez and Lin? Could that work?
Why in the world would either Porter or Ibaka sign with BKN, though? They are just dreadful. Since Toronto just traded for Serge, it is likely they sign him to a pretty hefty deal. They can also offer a 5th year which is humongous with his age concerns.
With Porter, he is going to have several teams lined up to offer max or near max offers (including the Wiz). Assuming he wanted to leave, why wouldn't he choose a team like the Cs over BKN? A lot of things would have to really fall right for BKN to sign anybody of consequence. We saw how things went down this past off-season when they had loads of money to spend.
Porter's been third fiddle in Washington, he might like the opportunity to show he's capable of being the lead dog. Of course, he's restricted, and Washington could match (although I'm on record as saying they won't if he's offered the max.)
Good point. I don't think Brooklyn will be the only team offering Porter the max though.
Before we start celebrating take a peek back, the Lakers are in full TANK MODE.
I read a couple of Laker fans interacting, and they said Magic has ordered the TANK. And he even says if he was in charge he would welcome Kobe's help. The Lakers are so screwed.
Suns get win #18 tonight. I thought Brooklyn had a real good shot at worst record this season, but I'd be lying if I thought that heading into the All-Star break they'd be at the bottom with only half the wins of the next closest team. Pretty incredible.
Suns get win #18 tonight. I thought Brooklyn had a real good shot at worst record this season, but I'd be lying if I thought that heading into the All-Star break they'd be at the bottom with only half the wins of the next closest team. Pretty incredible.
I thought it would be the Suns, Nets and (somebody else) battling for the bottom spot. Never, in my wildest dreams, did I think they'd be 8.5 games back with 26 to go at the All-Star break.
Unless, of course, the winning streak starts when Jeremy Lin returns after the break. :)
Mike
Maybe Porter wants to live in New York City and have a bigger role on his team. I don't think it's true but it wouldn't be the craziest thing to ever happen in the NBA.I have read reports that Brooklyn is prepared to offer Otto Porter a max contract after the season. He will help them but not significantly.Probably a smart move from them. What if they tried to max out Porter and Ibaka? Would they come together on a team with Lopez and Lin? Could that work?
Why in the world would either Porter or Ibaka sign with BKN, though? They are just dreadful. Since Toronto just traded for Serge, it is likely they sign him to a pretty hefty deal. They can also offer a 5th year which is humongous with his age concerns.
With Porter, he is going to have several teams lined up to offer max or near max offers (including the Wiz). Assuming he wanted to leave, why wouldn't he choose a team like the Cs over BKN? A lot of things would have to really fall right for BKN to sign anybody of consequence. We saw how things went down this past off-season when they had loads of money to spend.
Porter's been third fiddle in Washington, he might like the opportunity to show he's capable of being the lead dog. Of course, he's restricted, and Washington could match (although I'm on record as saying they won't if he's offered the max.)
Good point. I don't think Brooklyn will be the only team offering Porter the max though.
There will be a large amount of teams offering Porter max money and the Wizards will match.
Well, it looks like the Kings will at least make things interesting for the Nets next year. They might even be the favorites for the worst team in the league next year at this point.
I REALLY hope that this thread has relevance to us after 3p.m. Tomorrow.
Maybe the Nets can beat GSW tomorrow.
That's what I love about this thread. On a night when the Celtics can't put it together, I've always got the Nets to point at and laugh.
Mike
Looks like Lin is back
yeah probably so, Bogd was annoyingly good at timesLooks like Lin is back
Yep, but they moved Bogdanovic, so not much is going to change.
If it wasn't for that 1 win against NOLA, Brooklyn wound have the longest loosing streak in NBA history with a few games to spare
The question is, has a team that was actually trying to win ever been this bad? I don't think so. They really can't even blame it on injuries this year.
The question is, has a team that was actually trying to win ever been this bad? I don't think so. They really can't even blame it on injuries this year.
There have been worse teams if that's what you're asking. CHA in 2011-12 had the worst winning percentage of all-time, had a the worst record by 14 games over the next worst team, and had a net margin of -13.9 points. The 1973 Sixers were notoriously bad too.
See now, this is where I'm gonna miss LarBrd33. A Brooklyn win just isn't the same without him. Hope you come back soon brother..
I'm at the point where I find it difficult to cheer a Brooklyn loss (at least publicly). It's just such a wreck at the moment, you kinda have to feel bad for them
Ho hum. Nets lost again.
This is getting embarrassing. Can the NBA simply forfeit the remaining games for them and save everyone some time?
Ho hum. Nets lost again.
This is getting embarrassing. Can the NBA simply forfeit the remaining games for them and save everyone some time?
what would we do with this thread? Who did they play or should I say who did they not play against tonight.
It's comical that after Brooklyn's win over Memphis the other night nobody even cares. Shows how fortunate we are because we don't even have to stress over whether Brooklyn will leapfrog anyone, even with about 20 games left to go.
I think they're actually very much improved with Lin in the lineup...
I think they're actually very much improved with Lin in the lineup...
Sadly, you seem to be correct, even though the sample size is quite small. It looks like they're going to get quite the challenge from Sacramento next year.
Mike
Lopez is the key, surely he goes in a draft night trade for a first round pick?
It's early to really debate their potential performance next year but given that this year is basically a done deal now... I wonder what they will do this summer? They will have the ability to throw money at RFAs this year again, which seems to be their best idea.
Perhaps they go for KO, he's a great big man for the new NBA and certainly fits their style of play. Mirotic is another guy in that vein. Jamychal Green or Alex Len? Pickings are slim this year. This may also be a year when they absorb some contracts into cap space to get some extra picks, teams may look to create cap space to make a run at someone like Chris Paul or Blake Griffin if the Clippers go out in the first round again
I have a feeling Brooklyn is going to screw the whole league in restricted free agency by again offering huge deals to players undeserving of them, and a few teams are going to get burned...hopefully not Boston.
Also wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if Rose ended signing with Brooklyn this offseason on a short term deal, which could hurt our odds next season.
I have a feeling Brooklyn is going to screw the whole league in restricted free agency by again offering huge deals to players undeserving of them, and a few teams are going to get burned...hopefully not Boston.
Also wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if Rose ended signing with Brooklyn this offseason on a short term deal, which could hurt our odds next season.
How many could have predicted that this would be the least eventful thread on CB by February?
See now, this is where I'm gonna miss LarBrd33. A Brooklyn win just isn't the same without him. Hope you come back soon brother..
I'm at the point where I find it difficult to cheer a Brooklyn loss (at least publicly). It's just such a wreck at the moment, you kinda have to feel bad for them
I miss his subtle reminder that it isn't too late for BRK to go on a run and make the playoffs, regardless of how miniscule the odds ;)
Come back Lar haha.
A collective yawn from CB as Brooklyn beats New York. A new low for the Knicks.yes, a yawn. amazing isnt it? a few months ago such a win by the nets would have resulted in wide spread angst and agony throughout this blog. predictions about having a worthless pick would have blossomed like so many weeds.
BKN magic number down to ten.
Mike
A collective yawn from CB as Brooklyn beats New York. A new low for the Knicks.yes, a yawn. amazing isnt it? a few months ago such a win by the nets would have resulted in wide spread angst and agony throughout this blog. predictions about having a worthless pick would have blossomed like so many weeds.
BKN magic number down to ten.
Mike
yet here we sit, unfazed by such a victory. ours lives as celtic fans is indeed pretty good right now. ;D
Lakers have basically announced they are going to try to lose all of their remaining games. So assuming that they do, is it possible the Nets could go .500 and we lose the best lottery odds? Yes, of course it is. We play them twice, and I must say those two games we should do everything possible to beat them. Lakers have everything to gain to lose them all, while Nets have nothing to gain.They've won 12 out of 66 and you are worried about 8 of 16?
exactly, you almost made me look at the standings again. the nets are locked worst recordLakers have basically announced they are going to try to lose all of their remaining games. So assuming that they do, is it possible the Nets could go .500 and we lose the best lottery odds? Yes, of course it is. We play them twice, and I must say those two games we should do everything possible to beat them. Lakers have everything to gain to lose them all, while Nets have nothing to gain.They've won 12 out of 66 and you are worried about 8 of 16?
I'm going to the Nets game tomorrow.
If anyone is watching at home, look for the 3 white guys and 1 biracial girl in Celtic swag.
lolI'm going to the Nets game tomorrow.
If anyone is watching at home, look for the 3 white guys and 1 biracial girl in Celtic swag.
Shouldn't be that tough. You may be the only fans at the game.
Mike
Nets about to win again. Lakers still a threat to steal worst record. They will lose all their remaining games. Nets playing better, could see them finishing .500 over schedule balance.
Sure wish Isaiah was playing tomorrow.
Nets about to win again. Lakers still athreatextremely remote possibility to steal worst record. They will lose all their remaining games. Nets playing better, could see them finishing .500 over schedule balance.
Sure wish Isaiah was playing tomorrow.
Nets off to a great start in Brooklyn.not no more! ;D mavs up 32 to 26 at the end of the first quarter.
Nets off to a great start in Brooklyn.not no more! ;D mavs up 32 to 26 at the end of the first quarter.
gooooooooo mavs!!! ;D
Nets behind by 14 at the half
Maybe the Lakers can beat Clev.. Nah its not happening :(
why wont the Nets shut down Lopez. This is p---ing me off.
JJ Barrea is a Celtic today. Nine straight dagger points for Dallas to get some daylight between Dallas and a surging Nets team.
JJ Barrea is a Celtic today. Nine straight dagger points for Dallas to get some daylight between Dallas and a surging Nets team.
Surging Nets team?
Anyway, down 6, 0:26 to go.
Magic number is now 7.
That doesn't mean too much, I just needed a happy thread after that 76ers game.
Mike
Magic number is now 7.
That doesn't mean too much, I just needed a happy thread after that 76ers game.
Mike
At least we won the critical game of those two. Magic number is 5 over Phoenix, 2 over Orlando and 1 for Philly. Everyone else is eliminated from contention.
Magic number is now 7.
That doesn't mean too much, I just needed a happy thread after that 76ers game.
Mike
At least we won the critical game of those two. Magic number is 5 over Phoenix, 2 over Orlando and 1 for Philly. Everyone else is eliminated from contention.
The magic numbers are 7, 5, and 2 for BKN to be eliminated from catching LAL, PHX, and ORL, respectively. Any combination of wins by those teams or losses by BKN reduces the magic number. If LAL with 20 wins were to lose all of its remaining games, BKN with 13 wins would not be able to catch them if they lost 7 games by going 6-7 over their last 13 games. The formula is:
Games in (NBA) season +1 - Wins from leading team (LAL, PHX, or ORL) - losses from trailing team (BKN).
Magic number is now 7.
That doesn't mean too much, I just needed a happy thread after that 76ers game.
Mike
At least we won the critical game of those two. Magic number is 5 over Phoenix, 2 over Orlando and 1 for Philly. Everyone else is eliminated from contention.
The magic numbers are 7, 5, and 2 for BKN to be eliminated from catching LAL, PHX, and ORL, respectively. Any combination of wins by those teams or losses by BKN reduces the magic number. If LAL with 20 wins were to lose all of its remaining games, BKN with 13 wins would not be able to catch them if they lost 7 games by going 6-7 over their last 13 games. The formula is:
Games in (NBA) season +1 - Wins from leading team (LAL, PHX, or ORL) - losses from trailing team (BKN).
Isn't that what I just said?
Magic number is now 7.
That doesn't mean too much, I just needed a happy thread after that 76ers game.
Mike
At least we won the critical game of those two. Magic number is 5 over Phoenix, 2 over Orlando and 1 for Philly. Everyone else is eliminated from contention.
The magic numbers are 7, 5, and 2 for BKN to be eliminated from catching LAL, PHX, and ORL, respectively. Any combination of wins by those teams or losses by BKN reduces the magic number. If LAL with 20 wins were to lose all of its remaining games, BKN with 13 wins would not be able to catch them if they lost 7 games by going 6-7 over their last 13 games. The formula is:
Games in (NBA) season +1 - Wins from leading team (LAL, PHX, or ORL) - losses from trailing team (BKN).
Isn't that what I just said?
Yes it is. I misunderstood what you were doing by excluding the magic number for the LAL.
Magic number is now 7.
That doesn't mean too much, I just needed a happy thread after that 76ers game.
Mike
At least we won the critical game of those two. Magic number is 5 over Phoenix, 2 over Orlando and 1 for Philly. Everyone else is eliminated from contention.
The magic numbers are 7, 5, and 2 for BKN to be eliminated from catching LAL, PHX, and ORL, respectively. Any combination of wins by those teams or losses by BKN reduces the magic number. If LAL with 20 wins were to lose all of its remaining games, BKN with 13 wins would not be able to catch them if they lost 7 games by going 6-7 over their last 13 games. The formula is:
Games in (NBA) season +1 - Wins from leading team (LAL, PHX, or ORL) - losses from trailing team (BKN).
Isn't that what I just said?
Yes it is. I misunderstood what you were doing by excluding the magic number for the LAL.
TP to both of you for being polite.
Magic number is now 7.
That doesn't mean too much, I just needed a happy thread after that 76ers game.
Mike
At least we won the critical game of those two. Magic number is 5 over Phoenix, 2 over Orlando and 1 for Philly. Everyone else is eliminated from contention.
The magic numbers are 7, 5, and 2 for BKN to be eliminated from catching LAL, PHX, and ORL, respectively. Any combination of wins by those teams or losses by BKN reduces the magic number. If LAL with 20 wins were to lose all of its remaining games, BKN with 13 wins would not be able to catch them if they lost 7 games by going 6-7 over their last 13 games. The formula is:
Games in (NBA) season +1 - Wins from leading team (LAL, PHX, or ORL) - losses from trailing team (BKN).
Isn't that what I just said?
Yes it is. I misunderstood what you were doing by excluding the magic number for the LAL.
TP to both of you for being polite.
See we arent all rabid hyenas foaming at the mouth to rip into others' fanboy statuses.
Lin is out for a while for the Nets. Always hate to see people injured – he makes a big difference for them.Seems like they suck with him and suck without him.
Who hit the game winner?
Also, I'd much rather see the Lakers have the pick then the 76ers. The 76ers are a much bigger threat to the Celtics of getting good quickly than the Lakers are, having yet another top 10 pick in Philly this season is not ideal.Yes exactly jbpats.
A few days ago I wasn't worried. Now I am. After the Nets beat Detroit everything changes. They play them again plus there are many other winnable games. They play Detroit again, Chicago twice, Orlando twice, Phoenix and get this Philly twice. Philly could lose just to screw with us. I am worried because there is NO CHANCE of the Lakers winning another game even by accident based on who they play. Not a chance in hell.
Wouldn't it be in Philly's best interest to beat the Nets, they'd only be hurting their own odds by increasing LA's?
It's possible but it's incredibly unlikely. Wait until they get within 3 wins before getting nervous about it. And remember of course this is essentially for Ping-Pong balls and guarantees very little.
It's possible but it's incredibly unlikely. Wait until they get within 3 wins before getting nervous about it. And remember of course this is essentially for Ping-Pong balls and guarantees very little.
"ping pong balls" the NBA needs to draw the balls live instead of having the folders pre-sealed with draft order.
That being said I don't think it's the end of the world if the Lakers get the #1 pick (or at least the best odds for it), it hurts us if we wanted to trade the pick but I don't see anyway the Lakers don't take Ball who i'd think is #3 on Ainge's board right now. Also, I'd much rather see the Lakers have the pick then the 76ers. The 76ers are a much bigger threat to the Celtics of getting good quickly than the Lakers are, having yet another top 10 pick in Philly this season is not ideal.
The Nets have won 14 out of 71 games.
Do people really believe they will win 6 out of the remaining 11 games?
All these teams like chicago, Philly, Suns, Orlando will be busting rheir asses to get a cherished win vs the Nets and will be licking their chops to get some stats before the end of the season.
It's possible but it's incredibly unlikely. Wait until they get within 3 wins before getting nervous about it. And remember of course this is essentially for Ping-Pong balls and guarantees very little.
"ping pong balls" the NBA needs to draw the balls live instead of having the folders pre-sealed with draft order.
The Nets have won 14 out of 71 games.
Do people really believe they will win 6 out of the remaining 11 games?
All these teams like chicago, Philly, Suns, Orlando will be busting rheir asses to get a cherished win vs the Nets and will be licking their chops to get some stats before the end of the season.
They are 4-6 their last ten games, so yes, I think they can win 6 out of their remaining 11 games. Their more recent record is a better projector of how they will finish than their season record to date.
And even if that happened, the Lakers would still have to finish 0-17 (they've got 11 left) for that to matter. Which might happen, the Lakers are tanking about as hard as anyone has ever tanked right now.The Nets have won 14 out of 71 games.
Do people really believe they will win 6 out of the remaining 11 games?
All these teams like chicago, Philly, Suns, Orlando will be busting rheir asses to get a cherished win vs the Nets and will be licking their chops to get some stats before the end of the season.
They are 4-6 their last ten games, so yes, I think they can win 6 out of their remaining 11 games. Their more recent record is a better projector of how they will finish than their season record to date.
Their more recent record projects them winning 4.4 of their final 11 games. That's still a far cry from 6-5
And even if that happened, the Lakers would still have to finish 0-17 (they've got 11 left) for that to matter. Which might happen, the Lakers are tanking about as hard as anyone has ever tanked right now.The Nets have won 14 out of 71 games.
Do people really believe they will win 6 out of the remaining 11 games?
All these teams like chicago, Philly, Suns, Orlando will be busting rheir asses to get a cherished win vs the Nets and will be licking their chops to get some stats before the end of the season.
They are 4-6 their last ten games, so yes, I think they can win 6 out of their remaining 11 games. Their more recent record is a better projector of how they will finish than their season record to date.
Their more recent record projects them winning 4.4 of their final 11 games. That's still a far cry from 6-5
And even if that happened, the Lakers would still have to finish 0-17 (they've got 11 left) for that to matter. Which might happen, the Lakers are tanking about as hard as anyone has ever tanked right now.The Nets have won 14 out of 71 games.
Do people really believe they will win 6 out of the remaining 11 games?
All these teams like chicago, Philly, Suns, Orlando will be busting rheir asses to get a cherished win vs the Nets and will be licking their chops to get some stats before the end of the season.
They are 4-6 their last ten games, so yes, I think they can win 6 out of their remaining 11 games. Their more recent record is a better projector of how they will finish than their season record to date.
Their more recent record projects them winning 4.4 of their final 11 games. That's still a far cry from 6-5
I still think the Lakers back into a win before the season is done. The inconsistent Timberwolves come to town on Friday, for example.
And even if that happened, the Lakers would still have to finish 0-17 (they've got 11 left) for that to matter. Which might happen, the Lakers are tanking about as hard as anyone has ever tanked right now.The Nets have won 14 out of 71 games.
Do people really believe they will win 6 out of the remaining 11 games?
All these teams like chicago, Philly, Suns, Orlando will be busting rheir asses to get a cherished win vs the Nets and will be licking their chops to get some stats before the end of the season.
They are 4-6 their last ten games, so yes, I think they can win 6 out of their remaining 11 games. Their more recent record is a better projector of how they will finish than their season record to date.
Their more recent record projects them winning 4.4 of their final 11 games. That's still a far cry from 6-5
I still think the Lakers back into a win before the season is done. The inconsistent Timberwolves come to town on Friday, for example.
Agreed. Magic doesn't want the Lakers to win games, but those guys are still gonna be out there busting their balls. They should sneak in a win or two before the season ends (especially since they host the Timberwolves twice, Sacramento once, and Portland once, plus will play in Minnesota)
Any chance the Nets shut down Lopez-?
they did late last season.
And even if that happened, the Lakers would still have to finish 0-17 (they've got 11 left) for that to matter. Which might happen, the Lakers are tanking about as hard as anyone has ever tanked right now.The Nets have won 14 out of 71 games.
Do people really believe they will win 6 out of the remaining 11 games?
All these teams like chicago, Philly, Suns, Orlando will be busting rheir asses to get a cherished win vs the Nets and will be licking their chops to get some stats before the end of the season.
They are 4-6 their last ten games, so yes, I think they can win 6 out of their remaining 11 games. Their more recent record is a better projector of how they will finish than their season record to date.
Their more recent record projects them winning 4.4 of their final 11 games. That's still a far cry from 6-5
I still think the Lakers back into a win before the season is done. The inconsistent Timberwolves come to town on Friday, for example.
Agreed. Magic doesn't want the Lakers to win games, but those guys are still gonna be out there busting their balls. They should sneak in a win or two before the season ends (especially since they host the Timberwolves twice, Sacramento once, and Portland once, plus will play in Minnesota)
The Clips hung up over 100 points the first three quarters last night vs. Lakers. That's ball busting?
A few days ago I wasn't worried. Now I am. After the Nets beat Detroit everything changes. They play them again plus there are many other winnable games. They play Detroit again, Chicago twice, Orlando twice, Phoenix and get this Philly twice. Philly could lose just to screw with us. I am worried because there is NO CHANCE of the Lakers winning another game even by accident based on who they play. Not a chance in hell.
The Nets have won 14 out of 71 games.
Do people really believe they will win 6 out of the remaining 11 games?
All these teams like chicago, Philly, Suns, Orlando will be busting rheir asses to get a cherished win vs the Nets and will be licking their chops to get some stats before the end of the season.
It's possible but it's incredibly unlikely. Wait until they get within 3 wins before getting nervous about it. And remember of course this is essentially for Ping-Pong balls and guarantees very little.
"ping pong balls" the NBA needs to draw the balls live instead of having the folders pre-sealed with draft order.
Why? So you can see them compare the combinations to a big list to see who's combo it is? And then, when a combo gets picked for a team that has already moved up in the lotto you can see them draw again? It'd not like the lotto drawing is done completely in secret; each team has a representative there to make sure it's happening fairly. Drawing them live wouldn't make it any more exciting or any harder to rig
Any chance the Nets shut down Lopez-?
they did late last season.
And even if that happened, the Lakers would still have to finish 0-17 (they've got 11 left) for that to matter. Which might happen, the Lakers are tanking about as hard as anyone has ever tanked right now.The Nets have won 14 out of 71 games.
Do people really believe they will win 6 out of the remaining 11 games?
All these teams like chicago, Philly, Suns, Orlando will be busting rheir asses to get a cherished win vs the Nets and will be licking their chops to get some stats before the end of the season.
They are 4-6 their last ten games, so yes, I think they can win 6 out of their remaining 11 games. Their more recent record is a better projector of how they will finish than their season record to date.
Their more recent record projects them winning 4.4 of their final 11 games. That's still a far cry from 6-5
I still think the Lakers back into a win before the season is done. The inconsistent Timberwolves come to town on Friday, for example.
Agreed. Magic doesn't want the Lakers to win games, but those guys are still gonna be out there busting their balls. They should sneak in a win or two before the season ends (especially since they host the Timberwolves twice, Sacramento once, and Portland once, plus will play in Minnesota)
The Clips hung up over 100 points the first three quarters last night vs. Lakers. That's ball busting?
where did you come up with this number of 20%? i dont see how the odds for winning any of these games would be that number or equal for each opponent.A few days ago I wasn't worried. Now I am. After the Nets beat Detroit everything changes. They play them again plus there are many other winnable games. They play Detroit again, Chicago twice, Orlando twice, Phoenix and get this Philly twice. Philly could lose just to screw with us. I am worried because there is NO CHANCE of the Lakers winning another game even by accident based on who they play. Not a chance in hell.
A bit of an overstatement. Let's look at the math: Assume that the Lakers have only a 20% chance of winning each individual game (i.e., 20% chance of beating Minnesota, 20% chance of beating Memphis, 20% chance of beating the Clippers, etc.). There's only an 8.5% chance that they will lose every one of them. Even if the Lakers had only a 10% chance of winning each game, the chance that they would lose every one of them is only 31% chance. That's a long way from "not a chance in hell."The Nets have won 14 out of 71 games.
Do people really believe they will win 6 out of the remaining 11 games?
All these teams like chicago, Philly, Suns, Orlando will be busting rheir asses to get a cherished win vs the Nets and will be licking their chops to get some stats before the end of the season.
Only a small nitpick, but they actually have 12 games remaining. Yes, I do think that there's a chance that they get hot and win half of them, but not much of one.It's possible but it's incredibly unlikely. Wait until they get within 3 wins before getting nervous about it. And remember of course this is essentially for Ping-Pong balls and guarantees very little.
"ping pong balls" the NBA needs to draw the balls live instead of having the folders pre-sealed with draft order.
Why? So you can see them compare the combinations to a big list to see who's combo it is? And then, when a combo gets picked for a team that has already moved up in the lotto you can see them draw again? It'd not like the lotto drawing is done completely in secret; each team has a representative there to make sure it's happening fairly. Drawing them live wouldn't make it any more exciting or any harder to rig
Actually, I think that would be kind of cool. In a corner of the screen, they could show the changing odds for a team to get #1 as the picks are drawn, like ESPN does with poker. Of course, they'd never do it because people would change the channels as soon as the balls were drawn. Fewer commercials.Any chance the Nets shut down Lopez-?
they did late last season.
One would hope so, but maybe their egos will get the better of them if they figure that they have a chance not to finish in last.
Mike
Yeah, and they've got young guys with talent that, if they get hot at the right time, could sneak past someone on an off night. Still, I wouldn't be surprised if this was LA's total for the season.And even if that happened, the Lakers would still have to finish 0-17 (they've got 11 left) for that to matter. Which might happen, the Lakers are tanking about as hard as anyone has ever tanked right now.The Nets have won 14 out of 71 games.
Do people really believe they will win 6 out of the remaining 11 games?
All these teams like chicago, Philly, Suns, Orlando will be busting rheir asses to get a cherished win vs the Nets and will be licking their chops to get some stats before the end of the season.
They are 4-6 their last ten games, so yes, I think they can win 6 out of their remaining 11 games. Their more recent record is a better projector of how they will finish than their season record to date.
Their more recent record projects them winning 4.4 of their final 11 games. That's still a far cry from 6-5
I still think the Lakers back into a win before the season is done. The inconsistent Timberwolves come to town on Friday, for example.
Agreed. Magic doesn't want the Lakers to win games, but those guys are still gonna be out there busting their balls. They should sneak in a win or two before the season ends (especially since they host the Timberwolves twice, Sacramento once, and Portland once, plus will play in Minnesota)
The Clips hung up over 100 points the first three quarters last night vs. Lakers. That's ball busting?
Trying hard doesn't mean much when there's a large talent disparity, something that is also true with the Nets.
where did you come up with this number of 20%? i dont see how the odds for winning any of these games would be that number or equal for each opponent.A few days ago I wasn't worried. Now I am. After the Nets beat Detroit everything changes. They play them again plus there are many other winnable games. They play Detroit again, Chicago twice, Orlando twice, Phoenix and get this Philly twice. Philly could lose just to screw with us. I am worried because there is NO CHANCE of the Lakers winning another game even by accident based on who they play. Not a chance in hell.
A bit of an overstatement. Let's look at the math: Assume that the Lakers have only a 20% chance of winning each individual game (i.e., 20% chance of beating Minnesota, 20% chance of beating Memphis, 20% chance of beating the Clippers, etc.). There's only an 8.5% chance that they will lose every one of them. Even if the Lakers had only a 10% chance of winning each game, the chance that they would lose every one of them is only 31% chance. That's a long way from "not a chance in hell."The Nets have won 14 out of 71 games.
Do people really believe they will win 6 out of the remaining 11 games?
All these teams like chicago, Philly, Suns, Orlando will be busting rheir asses to get a cherished win vs the Nets and will be licking their chops to get some stats before the end of the season.
Only a small nitpick, but they actually have 12 games remaining. Yes, I do think that there's a chance that they get hot and win half of them, but not much of one.It's possible but it's incredibly unlikely. Wait until they get within 3 wins before getting nervous about it. And remember of course this is essentially for Ping-Pong balls and guarantees very little.
"ping pong balls" the NBA needs to draw the balls live instead of having the folders pre-sealed with draft order.
Why? So you can see them compare the combinations to a big list to see who's combo it is? And then, when a combo gets picked for a team that has already moved up in the lotto you can see them draw again? It'd not like the lotto drawing is done completely in secret; each team has a representative there to make sure it's happening fairly. Drawing them live wouldn't make it any more exciting or any harder to rig
Actually, I think that would be kind of cool. In a corner of the screen, they could show the changing odds for a team to get #1 as the picks are drawn, like ESPN does with poker. Of course, they'd never do it because people would change the channels as soon as the balls were drawn. Fewer commercials.Any chance the Nets shut down Lopez-?
they did late last season.
One would hope so, but maybe their egos will get the better of them if they figure that they have a chance not to finish in last.
Mike
There is ZERO PERCENT chance that the Lakers who are trying to lose can actually win any of the following games by accident. Absolute ZERO
Minnesota
Portland
Washington
@ Minnesota
@ Clippers
Memphis
San Antonio
Sacramento
Minnesota
New Orleans
Golden State
There is ZERO PERCENT chance that the Lakers who are trying to lose can actually win any of the following games by accident. Absolute ZERO
Minnesota
Portland
Washington
@ Minnesota
@ Clippers
Memphis
San Antonio
Sacramento
Minnesota
New Orleans
Golden State
There is ZERO PERCENT chance that the Lakers who are trying to lose can actually win any of the following games by accident. Absolute ZERO
Minnesota
Portland
Washington
@ Minnesota
@ Clippers
Memphis
San Antonio
Sacramento
Minnesota
New Orleans
Golden State
I would happily engage in a friendly wager of 5 TPs that the Lakers win at least one of those games. The loser is responsible for coming back on each of five days to reward the winner.
Mike
There is ZERO PERCENT chance that the Lakers who are trying to lose can actually win any of the following games by accident. Absolute ZERO
Minnesota
Portland
Washington
@ Minnesota
@ Clippers
Memphis
San Antonio
Sacramento
Minnesota
New Orleans
Golden State
Right, because the Kings are clearly focused on winning right now as opposed to making sure they don't have to give up their draft pick to Chicago, and Minnesota is an amazing team that is 100% guaranteed to beat the Lakers 3 times in the span of two weeks despite being effectively eliminated from playoff competition themselves. And the Lakers players didn't just lead most of the game vs. Cleveland.
The Lakers players could care less about the draft pick who might come take their job. They're out there trying to play to stay on an NBA roster next year, prove they're a starter, or play for a contract extension. They're going to try to win, and odds are the shots will fall for them on a night when they're not falling for their opponent, if nothing else.
There is ZERO PERCENT chance that the Lakers who are trying to lose can actually win any of the following games by accident. Absolute ZERO
Minnesota
Portland
Washington
@ Minnesota
@ Clippers
Memphis
San Antonio
Sacramento
Minnesota
New Orleans
Golden State
Right, because the Kings are clearly focused on winning right now as opposed to making sure they don't have to give up their draft pick to Chicago, and Minnesota is an amazing team that is 100% guaranteed to beat the Lakers 3 times in the span of two weeks despite being effectively eliminated from playoff competition themselves. And the Lakers players didn't just lead most of the game vs. Cleveland.
The Lakers players could care less about the draft pick who might come take their job. They're out there trying to play to stay on an NBA roster next year, prove they're a starter, or play for a contract extension. They're going to try to win, and odds are the shots will fall for them on a night when they're not falling for their opponent, if nothing else.
It's gonna happen. Are you saying the Lakers could or couldn't care less? Watch the Sacramento game which is probably the closest chance they have to stealing a game - they will REST D'Angelo Russell. If you want in on the tommy point bet I will honor it for you as well.
There is ZERO PERCENT chance that the Lakers who are trying to lose can actually win any of the following games by accident. Absolute ZERO
Minnesota
Portland
Washington
@ Minnesota
@ Clippers
Memphis
San Antonio
Sacramento
Minnesota
New Orleans
Golden State
Right, because the Kings are clearly focused on winning right now as opposed to making sure they don't have to give up their draft pick to Chicago, and Minnesota is an amazing team that is 100% guaranteed to beat the Lakers 3 times in the span of two weeks despite being effectively eliminated from playoff competition themselves. And the Lakers players didn't just lead most of the game vs. Cleveland.
The Lakers players could care less about the draft pick who might come take their job. They're out there trying to play to stay on an NBA roster next year, prove they're a starter, or play for a contract extension. They're going to try to win, and odds are the shots will fall for them on a night when they're not falling for their opponent, if nothing else.
It's gonna happen. Are you saying the Lakers could or couldn't care less? Watch the Sacramento game which is probably the closest chance they have to stealing a game - they will REST D'Angelo Russell. If you want in on the tommy point bet I will honor it for you as well.
Phoenix destroying Brooklyn early on.:(
Will be nice to see the nail in the coffin in the Net's efforts to get out of the worst record.
Currently 2 of 11 three point attempts in the 1st quarter.
There is ZERO PERCENT chance that the Lakers who are trying to lose can actually win any of the following games by accident. Absolute ZEROIf Golden State has 1st place locked up, they'll sit their starters for that last game.
Minnesota
Portland
Washington
@ Minnesota
@ Clippers
Memphis
San Antonio
Sacramento
Minnesota
New Orleans
Golden State
There is ZERO PERCENT chance that the Lakers who are trying to lose can actually win any of the following games by accident. Absolute ZEROIf Golden State has 1st place locked up, they'll sit their starters for that last game.
Minnesota
Portland
Washington
@ Minnesota
@ Clippers
Memphis
San Antonio
Sacramento
Minnesota
New Orleans
Golden State
There is ZERO PERCENT chance that the Lakers who are trying to lose can actually win any of the following games by accident. Absolute ZEROhate to be that guy, but there is a nonzero chance that they win each game.
Minnesota
Portland
Washington
@ Minnesota
@ Clippers
Memphis
San Antonio
Sacramento
Minnesota
New Orleans
Golden State
Lakers have basically announced they are going to try to lose all of their remaining games. So assuming that they do, is it possible the Nets could go .500 and we lose the best lottery odds? Yes, of course it is. We play them twice, and I must say those two games we should do everything possible to beat them. Lakers have everything to gain to lose them all, while Nets have nothing to gain.They've won 12 out of 66 and you are worried about 8 of 16?
I don 't know how many games away the have left . But those will all be Losses.The Nets have 7 more road games but two of those are against the Sixers and Magic. They also have two home games against the Sixers and Magic.
Issue is some teams rest guys before playoffs if they are not playing for anything . So there's that angle too.
I don 't know how many games away the have left . But those will all be Losses.The Nets have 7 more road games but two of those are against the Sixers and Magic. They also have two home games against the Sixers and Magic.
Issue is some teams rest guys before playoffs if they are not playing for anything . So there's that angle too.
Lakers are going to lose out in all likelihood. Nets have a good chance to beat the Magic 2x, they can beat the Sixers, they'll play the Bulls 2x after their season could be over (If Chicago keeps losing like they have been lately, they'll be eliminated & won't care at this point). They also play the Pistons who they've beat 2x already this year.
Reason for concern? You bet.
Would suck if the Lakers snatch away the #1 pick from us.They're getting the number 1 pick, we're only hoping the odds save us from getting screwed again (if the nets are dead last we'd at least be guaranteed a top 4 pick while if they catch the lakers I bet we'll get the 5th pick ala 07)
Brooklyn just blew out PHX by 28.
Uh oh.
Lakers are going to lose out in all likelihood. Nets have a good chance to beat the Magic 2x, they can beat the Sixers, they'll play the Bulls 2x after their season could be over (If Chicago keeps losing like they have been lately, they'll be eliminated & won't care at this point). They also play the Pistons who they've beat 2x already this year.
Reason for concern? You bet.
Should've traded the pick when Danny had the chance.
Brooklyn just blew out PHX by 28.
Uh oh.
Wow i watched the 1st quarter and the Suns were up by 15 points! A 43 point swing must mean they went on a rage from 3 point land.
oh no, please don't tell me this is happening.Well as long as we get second we're getting our guy Fultz
Silver is dying to give the lakers the number one pick
LA would be pretty dumb to pick Ball over Fultz but I could see it happening. No other team in the lottery would pick Ball over Fultz. I think Fultz is that much better than Ball and he'll be a consensus no. 1 come draft time.oh no, please don't tell me this is happening.Well as long as we get second we're getting our guy Fultz
Silver is dying to give the lakers the number one pick
Would suck if the Lakers snatch away the #1 pick from us.
Think this through. In that case, Philly gets 2 lottery picks right? Add them to Simmons/Saric/Embiid and that is an incredible young core right in our own conference. Much as I hate the Lakers, I think I would prefer if their pick is top-3 and they get to use it.Would suck if the Lakers snatch away the #1 pick from us.
I would love it if the Lakers finished as the worst team and ended up with the fourth pick.
Fun fact, Wins in March:
Golden State: 7
Brooklyn: 6
Cleveland: 5
Mike
I personally don't care if we end up with the second worst record. It is unlikely that the team with the worst record will land the #1 pick in the lottery again this year.
Going to the Wiz Nets tonight, lets get it boys and girls.If the Nets beat the Wiz tonight I'll start deciding who I would want us to draft at 5 in a worst case scenario (probably Monk or Markannen)
still not worried. nets have to go 5-6 in their last 11 games just to catch the Lakers and that's if the Lakers close out the season with a 17-game losing streak. just don't see that happening. Lakers still have several very winnable games left on their schedule. Nets have a lot of teams fighting for either playoff spots or respectability on their schedule. most likely winnable games they have left are 2 each against Philly (who are actually playing to win this year) and Orlando. all others are teams are either fighting for playoffs or jockeying for better seeds in the playoffs.
I don't think they fired Mitch because she wanted to tank. It seems like they fired Mitch because he wasn't able to trade for Cousins.still not worried. nets have to go 5-6 in their last 11 games just to catch the Lakers and that's if the Lakers close out the season with a 17-game losing streak. just don't see that happening. Lakers still have several very winnable games left on their schedule. Nets have a lot of teams fighting for either playoff spots or respectability on their schedule. most likely winnable games they have left are 2 each against Philly (who are actually playing to win this year) and Orlando. all others are teams are either fighting for playoffs or jockeying for better seeds in the playoffs.
That 0-17 I is why ....old lady Buss fired Mitch and Jim Buss to DO exactly that .....the former would not have tanked to the point of total embarrassment. The woman thinks it's her destiny to fill her daddy shoes . ::) On the other hand creepy Magic Johnson has been bad mouth n Mitch and Jim FOR YEArS .....he wanted to totally tank out ...like Philly. First thing they did was tell their vets to go home., forget winning totally this year . ......what hunk of dog doo.
Lakers have ZERO intention of winning any game ...period . They would drop a game to the Celtics cheerleaders .... the Lakers team is just shooting practice for their 20 year olds. .....till they can get Ball and Paul George.
I think Jeanie did the right thing, the Lakers haven't improved in a while, haven't been able to sign good quality free agents and blew all their money on Mozgov and Deng.
Lakers are not going to close out the season with a 17-game losing streak. they'll still win 1-2 games. enough to keep the Nets as worst recordstill not worried. nets have to go 5-6 in their last 11 games just to catch the Lakers and that's if the Lakers close out the season with a 17-game losing streak. just don't see that happening. Lakers still have several very winnable games left on their schedule. Nets have a lot of teams fighting for either playoff spots or respectability on their schedule. most likely winnable games they have left are 2 each against Philly (who are actually playing to win this year) and Orlando. all others are teams are either fighting for playoffs or jockeying for better seeds in the playoffs.
That 0-17 I is why ....old lady Buss fired Mitch and Jim Buss to DO exactly that .....the former would not have tanked to the point of total embarrassment. The woman thinks it's her destiny to fill her daddy shoes . ::) On the other hand creepy Magic Johnson has been bad mouth n Mitch and Jim FOR YEArS .....he wanted to totally tank out ...like Philly. First thing they did was tell their vets to go home., forget winning totally this year . ......what hunk of dog doo.
Lakers have ZERO intention of winning any game ...period . They would drop a game to the Celtics cheerleaders .... the Lakers team is just shooting practice for their 20 year olds. .....till they can get Ball and Paul George.
Going to the Wiz Nets tonight, lets get it boys and girls.
Going to the Wiz Nets tonight, lets get it boys and girls.
I need the Wizards to win tonight. Got to think long-term over a simple playoff position preference.
I personally don't care if we end up with the second worst record. It is unlikely that the team with the worst record will land the #1 pick in the lottery again this year.The odds are the same every year. 25% chance for the worst record.
Lakers are not going to close out the season with a 17-game losing streak. they'll still win 1-2 games. enough to keep the Nets as worst recordstill not worried. nets have to go 5-6 in their last 11 games just to catch the Lakers and that's if the Lakers close out the season with a 17-game losing streak. just don't see that happening. Lakers still have several very winnable games left on their schedule. Nets have a lot of teams fighting for either playoff spots or respectability on their schedule. most likely winnable games they have left are 2 each against Philly (who are actually playing to win this year) and Orlando. all others are teams are either fighting for playoffs or jockeying for better seeds in the playoffs.
That 0-17 I is why ....old lady Buss fired Mitch and Jim Buss to DO exactly that .....the former would not have tanked to the point of total embarrassment. The woman thinks it's her destiny to fill her daddy shoes . ::) On the other hand creepy Magic Johnson has been bad mouth n Mitch and Jim FOR YEArS .....he wanted to totally tank out ...like Philly. First thing they did was tell their vets to go home., forget winning totally this year . ......what hunk of dog doo.
Lakers have ZERO intention of winning any game ...period . They would drop a game to the Celtics cheerleaders .... the Lakers team is just shooting practice for their 20 year olds. .....till they can get Ball and Paul George.
Only on a Boston blog where the lingering effect of years of Sox devastation still penetrate the minds of so many with the sky is falling mentality. We are actually complaining that we have a 5 game lead over the lakers for the best odds at a draft pick that was gifted to us by Danny's brilliance.
Even if the Lakers did lose out and the Nets suddenly figure out to win on the road, it only drops our odds at the number one pick by a few points and yes, I know, we can end up with 5th spot instead of 4th in a loaded draft. Wow, life is tough for us Celtics fans
Screams of Danny should have traded the pick are beyond funny to me....Yes, if only we would have gotten rid of the 1st this year, and next year plus Brown and Smart or Crowder for Butler or George... ::) ;D Too funny...sky is falling...please save us poor unfortunate fans....
Wizard fan for a night! Thank goodness they are up by 20 with less than 9 minutes to go. Winnable game for the Lakers tonight (OK, not really).
Thanks for the TP..right back at you. I love this avatar!
My point is that even if we get 2nd best odds, I do not believe we drop to 5th. Last year, we broke our curse of falling and locked the 3rd spot and that has worked out pretty good so far.
Mark my words, we end up with 2nd pick at worst this year. I do believe we end up with best odds still though. Lin or Lopez will most likely be rested or tweak something before too long.
I definitely don't want Isaac or Markkanen though....not after this Nets performance this year! ;D
Thx Wiz. Now lose the rest.
Thx Wiz. Now lose the rest.
Thx Wiz. Now lose the rest.
They can beat Cleveland tomorrow please. And then lose the rest.
Thx Wiz. Now lose the rest.
They can beat Cleveland tomorrow please. And then lose the rest.
LeBron got a scratched cornea tonight---won't play tomorrow most likely.
usually players miss some time with that.Thx Wiz. Now lose the rest.
They can beat Cleveland tomorrow please. And then lose the rest.
LeBron got a scratched cornea tonight---won't play tomorrow most likely.
Meh....he is a Whiner , but not that big of woose.....he ll play .....or his team will get pounded.
Wizard fan for a night! Thank goodness they are up by 20 with less than 9 minutes to go. Winnable game for the Lakers tonight (OK, not really).
We'll revisit that comment in four hours (well, probably more, since that's past my bedtime.)
Nets lose...check
Lakers win...check
Sky is falling..........
Wizard fan for a night! Thank goodness they are up by 20 with less than 9 minutes to go. Winnable game for the Lakers tonight (OK, not really).
We'll revisit that comment in four hours (well, probably more, since that's past my bedtime.)
Comment revisited.
There is ZERO PERCENT chance that the Lakers who are trying to lose can actually win any of the following games by accident. Absolute ZERO
Minnesota
Portland
Washington
@ Minnesota
@ Clippers
Memphis
San Antonio
Sacramento
Minnesota
New Orleans
Golden State
I would happily engage in a friendly wager of 5 TPs that the Lakers win at least one of those games. The loser is responsible for coming back on each of five days to reward the winner.
Mike
You are on! It's a win-win for me. If they win a game or more I win. If they lose them all like I expect I win tommy points!
Must say I was shocked Lakers won last night, in OT last night. What's our magic number this morning?
There is ZERO PERCENT chance that the Lakers who are trying to lose can actually win any of the following games by accident. Absolute ZERO
Minnesota
Portland
Washington
@ Minnesota
@ Clippers
Memphis
San Antonio
Sacramento
Minnesota
New Orleans
Golden State
There is ZERO PERCENT chance that the Lakers who are trying to lose can actually win any of the following games by accident. Absolute ZERO
Minnesota
Portland
Washington
@ Minnesota
@ Clippers
Memphis
San Antonio
Sacramento
Minnesota
New Orleans
Golden State
I would happily engage in a friendly wager of 5 TPs that the Lakers win at least one of those games. The loser is responsible for coming back on each of five days to reward the winner.
Mike
You are on! It's a win-win for me. If they win a game or more I win. If they lose them all like I expect I win tommy points!
You were right!! I was wrong and I am ecstatic!! Here is your 1st TP
There is ZERO PERCENT chance that the Lakers who are trying to lose can actually win any of the following games by accident. Absolute ZEROSo I guess the chances were a little higher than 0%, huh?
Minnesota
Portland
Washington
@ Minnesota
@ Clippers
Memphis
San Antonio
Sacramento
Minnesota
New Orleans
Golden State
Idk about you guys, but that Lakers win just gave me a HUGE sigh of relief.
I hope Phoenix loses out and LAL win just 1 more.
Then LAL have the tiebreaker over them (better conference record) and they are the 3rd worst record in the league lol.
Now 10 games to go, Nets have to go 6-4 just to tie the Lakers. Not impossible but I think that's unlikely, they probably can go 4-6 at best in that stretch. They also play BOS once in that stretch.
Idk about you guys, but that Lakers win just gave me a HUGE sigh of relief.
I hope Phoenix loses out and LAL win just 1 more.
Then LAL have the tiebreaker over them (better conference record) and they are the 3rd worst record in the league lol.
Now 10 games to go, Nets have to go 6-4 just to tie the Lakers. Not impossible but I think that's unlikely, they probably can go 4-6 at best in that stretch. They also play BOS once in that stretch.
I could be wrong but, for the sake of the lottery, I don't think they have a tiebreaker. I think it's a coin flip.
Mike
Idk about you guys, but that Lakers win just gave me a HUGE sigh of relief.
I hope Phoenix loses out and LAL win just 1 more.
Then LAL have the tiebreaker over them (better conference record) and they are the 3rd worst record in the league lol.
Now 10 games to go, Nets have to go 6-4 just to tie the Lakers. Not impossible but I think that's unlikely, they probably can go 4-6 at best in that stretch. They also play BOS once in that stretch.
I could be wrong but, for the sake of the lottery, I don't think they have a tiebreaker. I think it's a coin flip.
Mike
You are correct, head to heads etc mean nothing for draft order, it is a random drawing.
http://www.nba.com/2016/news/04/15/ties-broken-for-2016-nba-draft-order-of-selection/
Idk about you guys, but that Lakers win just gave me a HUGE sigh of relief.
I hope Phoenix loses out and LAL win just 1 more.
Then LAL have the tiebreaker over them (better conference record) and they are the 3rd worst record in the league lol.
Now 10 games to go, Nets have to go 6-4 just to tie the Lakers. Not impossible but I think that's unlikely, they probably can go 4-6 at best in that stretch. They also play BOS once in that stretch.
I could be wrong but, for the sake of the lottery, I don't think they have a tiebreaker. I think it's a coin flip.
Mike
You are correct, head to heads etc mean nothing for draft order, it is a random drawing.
http://www.nba.com/2016/news/04/15/ties-broken-for-2016-nba-draft-order-of-selection/
IIRC, for the lottery drawing, in the case of a tie, the number of number combinations would be evenly divided between the tying teams.
Must say I was shocked Lakers won last night, in OT last night. What's our magic number this morning?
5, with 10 games to go.
Nets up by 12 in ATL end of first quarter. ATL has 3 starters out. Why are these teams making it so hard for Cs to get the overall best chance at #1??? How can ATL lose to Nets at home?
Nets up by 12 in ATL end of first quarter. ATL has 3 starters out. Why are these teams making it so hard for Cs to get the overall best chance at #1??? How can ATL lose to Nets at home?
Man, and they're on a free fall with a pretty difficult schedule the rest of the way, including another game against the Nets.
Were they resting guys or had guys with actual injuries? They legitimately could fall to the 8th seed at this rate, if not worse.
So when do the Nets shutdown Lopez? They are playing too hard even though they suck. Starting to annoy me lol
Is Atlanta primed to miss the playoffs following this loss?
Is Atlanta primed to miss the playoffs following this loss?
It's reasonable to project Brooklyn winning 6 of their last 11 games, given their weak schedule and the level they are now playing. Check their schedule. So say the Lakers win 1 of their remaining games, who wins (loses)? I'm on my phone and can't check.
It's reasonable to project Brooklyn winning 6 of their last 11 games, given their weak schedule and the level they are now playing. Check their schedule. So say the Lakers win 1 of their remaining games, who wins (loses)? I'm on my phone and can't check.
The Nets only have 9 games left, not 11. I don't think 6-3 is reasonable.
It's reasonable to project Brooklyn winning 6 of their last 11 games, given their weak schedule and the level they are now playing. Check their schedule. So say the Lakers win 1 of their remaining games, who wins (loses)? I'm on my phone and can't check.
The Nets only have 9 games left, not 11. I don't think 6-3 is reasonable.
One of those games is against us too. I think it's more like going 8 games and 6-2.
It's reasonable to project Brooklyn winning 6 of their last 11 games, given their weak schedule and the level they are now playing. Check their schedule. So say the Lakers win 1 of their remaining games, who wins (loses)? I'm on my phone and can't check.If there were a tie, they'd essentially split the chances in the lottery and a coin flip would decide who gets top slot in case neither win the lottery.
It's reasonable to project Brooklyn winning 6 of their last 11 games, given their weak schedule and the level they are now playing. Check their schedule. So say the Lakers win 1 of their remaining games, who wins (loses)? I'm on my phone and can't check.
The Nets only have 9 games left, not 11. I don't think 6-3 is reasonable.
One of those games is against us too. I think it's more like going 8 games and 6-2.
I think 6-3 is doable.
PHI x 2
DET
ORL x 2
ATL
CHI x 2
BOS
That's a tremendously weak schedule, outside of their game with us.
It's reasonable to project Brooklyn winning 6 of their last 11 games, given their weak schedule and the level they are now playing. Check their schedule. So say the Lakers win 1 of their remaining games, who wins (loses)? I'm on my phone and can't check.
The Nets only have 9 games left, not 11. I don't think 6-3 is reasonable.
One of those games is against us too. I think it's more like going 8 games and 6-2.
I think 6-3 is doable.
PHI x 2
DET
ORL x 2
ATL
CHI x 2
BOS
That's a tremendously weak schedule, outside of their game with us.
To answer footey's question, 6 more Nets wins and 1 Lakers win would mean a tie. The teams would split ping pong balls, and a coin flip would determine which team would be the #1 lottery seed.
A Celtics / Lakers coin flip would be a lot of fun, assuming we won it. Haha.
There is no such thing as an easy schedule when you have a 22% win percentage.It's reasonable to project Brooklyn winning 6 of their last 11 games, given their weak schedule and the level they are now playing. Check their schedule. So say the Lakers win 1 of their remaining games, who wins (loses)? I'm on my phone and can't check.
The Nets only have 9 games left, not 11. I don't think 6-3 is reasonable.
One of those games is against us too. I think it's more like going 8 games and 6-2.
I think 6-3 is doable.
PHI x 2
DET
ORL x 2
ATL
CHI x 2
BOS
That's a tremendously weak schedule, outside of their game with us.
They finish no better than 4-5.
While it's a relatively easy schedule, none are better than 50-50 games for the Nets.
It's reasonable to project Brooklyn winning 6 of their last 11 games, given their weak schedule and the level they are now playing. Check their schedule. So say the Lakers win 1 of their remaining games, who wins (loses)? I'm on my phone and can't check.
The Nets only have 9 games left, not 11. I don't think 6-3 is reasonable.
One of those games is against us too. I think it's more like going 8 games and 6-2.
I think 6-3 is doable.
PHI x 2
DET
ORL x 2
ATL
CHI x 2
BOS
That's a tremendously weak schedule, outside of their game with us.
They finish no better than 4-5.
While it's a relatively easy schedule, none are better than 50-50 games for the Nets.
There is no such thing as an easy schedule when you have a 22% win percentage.It's reasonable to project Brooklyn winning 6 of their last 11 games, given their weak schedule and the level they are now playing. Check their schedule. So say the Lakers win 1 of their remaining games, who wins (loses)? I'm on my phone and can't check.
The Nets only have 9 games left, not 11. I don't think 6-3 is reasonable.
One of those games is against us too. I think it's more like going 8 games and 6-2.
I think 6-3 is doable.
PHI x 2
DET
ORL x 2
ATL
CHI x 2
BOS
That's a tremendously weak schedule, outside of their game with us.
They finish no better than 4-5.
While it's a relatively easy schedule, none are better than 50-50 games for the Nets.
on the bolded, please:It's reasonable to project Brooklyn winning 6 of their last 11 games, given their weak schedule and the level they are now playing. Check their schedule. So say the Lakers win 1 of their remaining games, who wins (loses)? I'm on my phone and can't check.
The Nets only have 9 games left, not 11. I don't think 6-3 is reasonable.
One of those games is against us too. I think it's more like going 8 games and 6-2.
I think 6-3 is doable.
PHI x 2
DET
ORL x 2
ATL
CHI x 2
BOS
That's a tremendously weak schedule, outside of their game with us.
They finish no better than 4-5.
While it's a relatively easy schedule, none are better than 50-50 games for the Nets.
I disagree. This is realistic outcome for Brooklyn in their remains games:
PHI WIN
@DET LOSE
ORL WIN
ATL WIN
@PHI LOSE
@ORL WIN
CHI WIN
@ BOS LOSE
@ CHI LOSE
Chicago and Detroit are playing terribly and are in danger of falling out of playoff hunt so it wouldn't surprise me to see Nets win last game of season and also beat Detroit and finish with one or two more wins which would boost their win total to 6-7 games. I hope I'm wrong, but this is the only crappy team with no incentive to tank whose coach is coaching to keep his job. Plus they are finally healthy and frankly a lot better than their season record would indicate.
Put another way, if the Nets played Suns or Lakers in a best of 7 series right now, wouldn't most of us pick the Nets not only to win but to do so in 5 or 6 games?
Too many fans here confuse Nets season record with how much better they are playing relative to Lakers or PHX in the past two weeks, which i would think is a better indicator of future performance.
on the bolded, please:It's reasonable to project Brooklyn winning 6 of their last 11 games, given their weak schedule and the level they are now playing. Check their schedule. So say the Lakers win 1 of their remaining games, who wins (loses)? I'm on my phone and can't check.
The Nets only have 9 games left, not 11. I don't think 6-3 is reasonable.
One of those games is against us too. I think it's more like going 8 games and 6-2.
I think 6-3 is doable.
PHI x 2
DET
ORL x 2
ATL
CHI x 2
BOS
That's a tremendously weak schedule, outside of their game with us.
They finish no better than 4-5.
While it's a relatively easy schedule, none are better than 50-50 games for the Nets.
I disagree. This is realistic outcome for Brooklyn in their remains games:
PHI WIN
@DET LOSE
ORL WIN
ATL WIN
@PHI LOSE
@ORL WIN
CHI WIN
@ BOS LOSE
@ CHI LOSE
Chicago and Detroit are playing terribly and are in danger of falling out of playoff hunt so it wouldn't surprise me to see Nets win last game of season and also beat Detroit and finish with one or two more wins which would boost their win total to 6-7 games. I hope I'm wrong, but this is the only crappy team with no incentive to tank whose coach is coaching to keep his job. Plus they are finally healthy and frankly a lot better than their season record would indicate.
Put another way, if the Nets played Suns or Lakers in a best of 7 series right now, wouldn't most of us pick the Nets not only to win but to do so in 5 or 6 games?
1. define
2. prove
thank you.
on the bolded, please:It's reasonable to project Brooklyn winning 6 of their last 11 games, given their weak schedule and the level they are now playing. Check their schedule. So say the Lakers win 1 of their remaining games, who wins (loses)? I'm on my phone and can't check.
The Nets only have 9 games left, not 11. I don't think 6-3 is reasonable.
One of those games is against us too. I think it's more like going 8 games and 6-2.
I think 6-3 is doable.
PHI x 2
DET
ORL x 2
ATL
CHI x 2
BOS
That's a tremendously weak schedule, outside of their game with us.
They finish no better than 4-5.
While it's a relatively easy schedule, none are better than 50-50 games for the Nets.
I disagree. This is realistic outcome for Brooklyn in their remains games:
PHI WIN
@DET LOSE
ORL WIN
ATL WIN
@PHI LOSE
@ORL WIN
CHI WIN
@ BOS LOSE
@ CHI LOSE
Chicago and Detroit are playing terribly and are in danger of falling out of playoff hunt so it wouldn't surprise me to see Nets win last game of season and also beat Detroit and finish with one or two more wins which would boost their win total to 6-7 games. I hope I'm wrong, but this is the only crappy team with no incentive to tank whose coach is coaching to keep his job. Plus they are finally healthy and frankly a lot better than their season record would indicate.
Put another way, if the Nets played Suns or Lakers in a best of 7 series right now, wouldn't most of us pick the Nets not only to win but to do so in 5 or 6 games?
1. define
2. prove
thank you.
1. Define realistic: greater than 50% for each of my projections.
2. Prove: I can prove a prediction of a future event. But I give Brooklyn better than 50:50 shot on each of their remains home games but less than 50/50 on each of their away games unless the opponent is playing so poorly and motivated to lose (ORL e.g.).
They just beat Atlanta today AT ATL so seems quite reasonable they will beat them in BKLN.
My fear is that they will win more than5 games because Detroit is playing so poorly and I suspect Chicago will be out of playoff hunt by last game of season.
I'd say that is reasonable. You?
on the bolded, please:It's reasonable to project Brooklyn winning 6 of their last 11 games, given their weak schedule and the level they are now playing. Check their schedule. So say the Lakers win 1 of their remaining games, who wins (loses)? I'm on my phone and can't check.
The Nets only have 9 games left, not 11. I don't think 6-3 is reasonable.
One of those games is against us too. I think it's more like going 8 games and 6-2.
I think 6-3 is doable.
PHI x 2
DET
ORL x 2
ATL
CHI x 2
BOS
That's a tremendously weak schedule, outside of their game with us.
They finish no better than 4-5.
While it's a relatively easy schedule, none are better than 50-50 games for the Nets.
I disagree. This is realistic outcome for Brooklyn in their remains games:
PHI WIN
@DET LOSE
ORL WIN
ATL WIN
@PHI LOSE
@ORL WIN
CHI WIN
@ BOS LOSE
@ CHI LOSE
Chicago and Detroit are playing terribly and are in danger of falling out of playoff hunt so it wouldn't surprise me to see Nets win last game of season and also beat Detroit and finish with one or two more wins which would boost their win total to 6-7 games. I hope I'm wrong, but this is the only crappy team with no incentive to tank whose coach is coaching to keep his job. Plus they are finally healthy and frankly a lot better than their season record would indicate.
Put another way, if the Nets played Suns or Lakers in a best of 7 series right now, wouldn't most of us pick the Nets not only to win but to do so in 5 or 6 games?
1. define
2. prove
thank you.
1. Define realistic: greater than 50% for each of my projections.
2. Prove: I can prove a prediction of a future event. But I give Brooklyn better than 50:50 shot on each of their remains home games but less than 50/50 on each of their away games unless the opponent is playing so poorly and motivated to lose (ORL e.g.).
They just beat Atlanta today AT ATL so seems quite reasonable they will beat them in BKLN.
My fear is that they will win more than5 games because Detroit is playing so poorly and I suspect Chicago will be out of playoff hunt by last game of season.
I'd say that is reasonable. You?
They beat ATL today in ATL with 3 of Atlanta's starters not playing.
Would be nice if LAL could squeak out just one more win this season. Not betting on it but that would mean BKN have to finish the season 6-3. Doubt that happens despite their recent "hot stretch" :laugh:The end of the season, crazy things always happen with some teams quitting, some teams resting guys. The Lakers are young and don't know any better than to just play it out. I'd bet on them winning one more.
Everyone is extremely worried about Chicago.
They are manhandling the Bucks (who are 11-2 in March) at their place today.
We beat Miami and Chicago is 0.5 game out. We need to do our own part.
Everyone is extremely worried about Chicago.Butler has 14 assists which means he now has 37 assists in his last 3 games.
They are manhandling the Bucks (who are 11-2 in March) at their place today.
We beat Miami and Chicago is 0.5 game out. We need to do our own part.
It's nice we can at least talk about how close this is going to be, without being called insults.
If I remember right I was called every name in the book, for saying this could get ugly?
Still hoping I was wrong of course, but I see some of you who were giving me a hard time, are
now the ones who are worrying. That's why its not over til its over. Lets hope we get some
help from the Leprechaun..
It's nice we can at least talk about how close this is going to be, without being called insults.
If I remember right I was called every name in the book, for saying this could get ugly?
Still hoping I was wrong of course, but I see some of you who were giving me a hard time, are
now the ones who are worrying. That's why its not over til its over. Lets hope we get some
help from the Leprechaun..
on the bolded, please:It's reasonable to project Brooklyn winning 6 of their last 11 games, given their weak schedule and the level they are now playing. Check their schedule. So say the Lakers win 1 of their remaining games, who wins (loses)? I'm on my phone and can't check.
The Nets only have 9 games left, not 11. I don't think 6-3 is reasonable.
One of those games is against us too. I think it's more like going 8 games and 6-2.
I think 6-3 is doable.
PHI x 2
DET
ORL x 2
ATL
CHI x 2
BOS
That's a tremendously weak schedule, outside of their game with us.
They finish no better than 4-5.
While it's a relatively easy schedule, none are better than 50-50 games for the Nets.
I disagree. This is realistic outcome for Brooklyn in their remains games:
PHI WIN
@DET LOSE
ORL WIN
ATL WIN
@PHI LOSE
@ORL WIN
CHI WIN
@ BOS LOSE
@ CHI LOSE
Chicago and Detroit are playing terribly and are in danger of falling out of playoff hunt so it wouldn't surprise me to see Nets win last game of season and also beat Detroit and finish with one or two more wins which would boost their win total to 6-7 games. I hope I'm wrong, but this is the only crappy team with no incentive to tank whose coach is coaching to keep his job. Plus they are finally healthy and frankly a lot better than their season record would indicate.
Put another way, if the Nets played Suns or Lakers in a best of 7 series right now, wouldn't most of us pick the Nets not only to win but to do so in 5 or 6 games?
1. define
2. prove
thank you.
1. Define realistic: greater than 50% for each of my projections.
2. Prove: I can prove a prediction of a future event. But I give Brooklyn better than 50:50 shot on each of their remains home games but less than 50/50 on each of their away games unless the opponent is playing so poorly and motivated to lose (ORL e.g.).
They just beat Atlanta today AT ATL so seems quite reasonable they will beat them in BKLN.
My fear is that they will win more than5 games because Detroit is playing so poorly and I suspect Chicago will be out of playoff hunt by last game of season.
I'd say that is reasonable. You?
They beat ATL today in ATL with 3 of Atlanta's starters not playing.
They are resting for the playoffs. The Nets are playing all their guys for their pride and their contracts including the coaching staff.
It's nice we can at least talk about how close this is going to be, without being called insults.
If I remember right I was called every name in the book, for saying this could get ugly?
Still hoping I was wrong of course, but I see some of you who were giving me a hard time, are
now the ones who are worrying. That's why its not over til its over. Lets hope we get some
help from the Leprechaun..
it's absolutely amazing the Nets have 16 , wins and the next closest team has 27 wins. Things just couldn't have worked out any more perfect for Danny Ainge we've been taking the season for granted a little bit this is just amazing.
Just sit back and enjoy the show folks. If it's meant to be, it's meant to be. I'm not gonna stress about it. Whatever happena, happens.
It's nice we can at least talk about how close this is going to be, without being called insults.
If I remember right I was called every name in the book, for saying this could get ugly?
Still hoping I was wrong of course, but I see some of you who were giving me a hard time, are
now the ones who are worrying. That's why its not over til its over. Lets hope we get some
help from the Leprechaun..
It's definitely not 'nice' that we can talk about how close this is going to be. Every name in the book also seems to be a bit hyperbolic, but people did think it was a ridiculous premise...and it still might be. None of these Nets wins lately are enormous surprises, especially today with so may Atl players out.
The players are playing for pride and to possibly get another contractIt's nice we can at least talk about how close this is going to be, without being called insults.
If I remember right I was called every name in the book, for saying this could get ugly?
Still hoping I was wrong of course, but I see some of you who were giving me a hard time, are
now the ones who are worrying. That's why its not over til its over. Lets hope we get some
help from the Leprechaun..
It's definitely not 'nice' that we can talk about how close this is going to be. Every name in the book also seems to be a bit hyperbolic, but people did think it was a ridiculous premise...and it still might be. None of these Nets wins lately are enormous surprises, especially today with so may Atl players out.
Yea, Every name in the book is a bit over the top... But two weeks ago, I just wanted to discuss
the possibility. At the time I really didn't think the Nets would be playing this good.
It's like they're playing hard to recruit FA's for this summer? Hope they have a hiccup soon.
Would be nice if LAL could squeak out just one more win this season. Not betting on it but that would mean BKN have to finish the season 6-3. Doubt that happens despite their recent "hot stretch" :laugh:
Would be nice if LAL could squeak out just one more win this season. Not betting on it but that would mean BKN have to finish the season 6-3. Doubt that happens despite their recent "hot stretch" :laugh:
Lakers will win at least one more.
One nice thing is that they have a young team, who are playing for their futures. Players and coaches don't tank. Only GMs do.
Mike
Hey, it's not over 'til it's over. Lakers are still in this one for the worst team.
Statistics bear it out. If we use the basketball-reference link from upthread, the chances that the Nets aren't the worst team is up six-fold in the past six weeks. Yup, they are six times as likely to be second-worst as they were in mid-February.
Chances of Nets not being the worst team on Feb 11: 0.1%
Chances of nets not being the worst team on Mar 28: 0.6%
http://www.basketball-reference.com/friv/proj_draft.html
Another six-fold increase and they'll be up to 3.6%!
Mike
What happens if there's a tie for the worst record? Coin flip? Head-to-head record (they're 1-1)? What if Nets, Lakers and Suns finish with 22 wins?
What happens if there's a tie for the worst record? Coin flip? Head-to-head record (they're 1-1)? What if Nets, Lakers and Suns finish with 22 wins?
Hey, it's not over 'til it's over. Lakers are still in this one for the worst team.
Statistics bear it out. If we use the basketball-reference link from upthread, the chances that the Nets aren't the worst team is up six-fold in the past six weeks. Yup, they are six times as likely to be second-worst as they were in mid-February.
Chances of Nets not being the worst team on Feb 11: 0.1%
Chances of nets not being the worst team on Mar 28: 0.6%
http://www.basketball-reference.com/friv/proj_draft.html
Another six-fold increase and they'll be up to 3.6%!
Mike
To add more context to that 0.6%, they say that we have a 2.7% chance to win the finals. So, they think we are 4.5x as likely to win the finals as the Nets to not have the worst record.
it's absolutely amazing the Nets have 16 , wins and the next closest team has 27 wins. Things just couldn't have worked out any more perfect for Danny Ainge we've been taking the season for granted a little bit this is just amazing.
The next closest team has 21 wins and they're the Lakers. Followed by the Phoenix Suns with 22 wins.
Why is Lopez even still playing at this point? It's got to be like a 95% chance that they trade him this summer, since there's no real reason to retain him next summer, so why are they even risking injury for him at this point?
Maybe they're trying to instill that winning culture everyone is always talking about. Don't give up until the last game is over.Why is Lopez even still playing at this point? It's got to be like a 95% chance that they trade him this summer, since there's no real reason to retain him next summer, so why are they even risking injury for him at this point?
maybe no one wants to pay his price so they may have to keep him. i haven't heard of any interested teams. also winning sticks it to ainge if they get out of last.
lol I don't know why either.
I think its possible they believe a strong finish could give them some level of positive momentum to sell free agents on.Why is Lopez even still playing at this point? It's got to be like a 95% chance that they trade him this summer, since there's no real reason to retain him next summer, so why are they even risking injury for him at this point?
maybe no one wants to pay his price so they may have to keep him. i haven't heard of any interested teams. also winning sticks it to ainge if they get out of last.
lol I don't know why either.
WE ARE ALL 76ERS FANS TONIGHT BOIIIIIIII!!!!
THANK YOU PHILLY!!!!
Our odds of keeping the #1 odds in the draft just went up big time.
Laker win (eww) against the Wizards would be huge right now!! Go (to hell) Lakers!
Russel was a nice pick at the end of the day.
GO LAKERS!!
Wait, what the ****?
Russel was a nice pick at the end of the day.
GO LAKERS!!
Wait, what the ****?
Russel was a nice pick at the end of the day.
GO LAKERS!!
Wait, what the ****?
Russell sucks. Decent playmaker, below average shooter, lousy defender.
He's blowing this game.
Absolute garbage. That's where the Lakers belong
Absolute garbage. That's where the Lakers belong
more like the sewage tank.
27 point turnaround in like 13 minutes...WOW---now That's Tanking.
27 point turnaround in like 13 minutes...WOW---now That's Tanking.
Yeah that box score really jumped out at me when I see 37 laker points in the 3rd and like 13 in the fourth. Makes you question if the players are in on it.
27 point turnaround in like 13 minutes...WOW---now That's Tanking.
Yeah that box score really jumped out at me when I see 37 laker points in the 3rd and like 13 in the fourth. Makes you question if the players are in on it.
I would love to hear a player admit publicly that they were instructed, in one way or another, to lose on purpose. That would shake the league up.
Randle is worthless. He's a complete mess defensively, and he makes way too many dumb plays overall on both sides of the ball.
Randle is worthless. He's a complete mess defensively, and he makes way too many dumb plays overall on both sides of the ball.
But you'd trade him for Marcus Smart, right?
and what is also so great is that next year we will have another thread on this exact same topic! ;DGoing into last season I said we'd get 2 top 5 picks and at worst a top 10 in 2018. I think next year will be another top 5 pick. Nets have nothing to entice good free agents to sign with them.
i wonder how many folks will post the same posts next year as they did this year?
oh, and on draftexpress for 2018, 5 out of the top 6 picks are pf or c. next year will be fun.
Ive predicted 7-10 and 3-5 in each of the past 2 years, so ill be sure to low ball them again so we can grab another top 3 pick.and what is also so great is that next year we will have another thread on this exact same topic! ;DGoing into last season I said we'd get 2 top 5 picks and at worst a top 10 in 2018. I think next year will be another top 5 pick. Nets have nothing to entice good free agents to sign with them.
i wonder how many folks will post the same posts next year as they did this year?
oh, and on draftexpress for 2018, 5 out of the top 6 picks are pf or c. next year will be fun.
Randle is worthless. He's a complete mess defensively, and he makes way too many dumb plays overall on both sides of the ball.
But you'd trade him for Marcus Smart, right?
Surely this is sarcasm lol Because I've long been an ardent supporter of Smart and proponent of picking him over Randle.
8 games left for Nets and LA. LA has a 5 game lead. #1 pick going into the lottery is ours.
8 games left for Nets and LA. LA has a 5 game lead. #1 pick going into the lottery is ours.
Probably, but not a lock. Good chance Lakers lose all their remaining games. If Chicago is still in the running for the 8th spot at the end, I'd think it's closer to a lock as they play BKN twice in the last 3 games with our game vs BKN sandwiched in the middle.
and what is also so great is that next year we will have another thread on this exact same topic! ;D
i wonder how many folks will post the same posts next year as they did this year?
oh, and on draftexpress for 2018, 5 out of the top 6 picks are pf or c. next year will be fun.
Whew. Thought I was going to have to hit the panic button tonight. My god Detroit stinks.
Great to be Green! Wouldn't be any fun if it was easy. Pistons stink. No wonder they considered dumping Drummond..2 points vs Nets...wow.....-3 for night...pee eew :laugh:
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Can't lose 3 of these. That number goes down each time the Lakers win.
even if the lakers win no more games this season, the nets would need to go 5 and 2 the rest of the way. tough order for a team that bad.havent done that since a 5 game win streak at the end of the '14-'15 season.
even if the lakers win no more games this season, the nets would need to go 5 and 2 the rest of the way. tough order for a team that bad.
even if the lakers win no more games this season, the nets would need to go 5 and 2 the rest of the way. tough order for a team that bad.
Yup. It's not going to happen, especially since they'll rest Brook down the stretch.
Even though I've been really cautious about saying this prematurely, I'll stupidly say it now - Guaranteed top 4 pick.
What is the official "magic number" now, 2? That's at least for a tie, right? Lakers have Sacramento and Minnesota at home next week so we may (though now seems unlikely) have to wait until next Friday to officially lock up the "top seed". Brooklyn has Orlando at home but have 4 lose-able games in a row after that (ATL, @Phi, @ORL, CHI). 25% here we come!
What is the official "magic number" now, 2? That's at least for a tie, right? Lakers have Sacramento and Minnesota at home next week so we may (though now seems unlikely) have to wait until next Friday to officially lock up the "top seed". Brooklyn has Orlando at home but have 4 lose-able games in a row after that (ATL, @Phi, @ORL, CHI). 25% here we come!
At this pount does it matter? Does anyone here really believe that the Nets are going to win 6 of 7 games while the Lakers lose 7 straight and fall into the 2nd worst record slot? Anyone? Really, anyone at all?What is the official "magic number" now, 2? That's at least for a tie, right? Lakers have Sacramento and Minnesota at home next week so we may (though now seems unlikely) have to wait until next Friday to officially lock up the "top seed". Brooklyn has Orlando at home but have 4 lose-able games in a row after that (ATL, @Phi, @ORL, CHI). 25% here we come!
Scratch 76ers from list of losable games for Nets, they just shut down Covington and Okafor...separate note, the Lakers added one more to the pile of not playing the rest of the year(Zubac).
http://www.nba.com/article/2017/03/31/sixers-shutting-down-jahlil-okafor-and-robert-covington
http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nba/2017/03/31/lakers-shut-down-rookie-zubac-for-season-with-ankle-sprain/99881030/
Magic number is 2 if we take care of business and beat the Nets.
No help from the Tragic tonight. Nets now 17-59.
Just knew that Orlando would wimp out today vs. BK---left it all on the court in Boston last night---now we gotta pray for an Atlanta win tomorrow...They lost today.
everything will be fine. Don't the Nets have to winnevery game except one to even make this a conversation? That's not happening guys relax!
Johnson and Buss have completely tanked the Lakers . End of story , that's what he wanted for years , he was critical of previous FO , for not going the all out route . They were trying to balance TV rating , fan appeal , walking a tightrope like Danny did between trying to lose and looking like a real NBA team. He ll tank the Lakers every year till he gets KObe type replacements.
Johnson and Buss have completely tanked the Lakers . End of story , that's what he wanted for years , he was critical of previous FO , for not going the all out route . They were trying to balance TV rating , fan appeal , walking a tightrope like Danny did between trying to lose and looking like a real NBA team. He ll tank the Lakers every year till he gets KObe type replacements.
The majority of the league has been trying that approach for decades now. It rarely works because there are not many Kobe type players.
Johnson and Buss have completely tanked the Lakers . End of story , that's what he wanted for years , he was critical of previous FO , for not going the all out route . They were trying to balance TV rating , fan appeal , walking a tightrope like Danny did between trying to lose and looking like a real NBA team. He ll tank the Lakers every year till he gets KObe type replacements.
The majority of the league has been trying that approach for decades now. It rarely works because there are not many Kobe type players.
There needs to incentives NOT to tank , teams should also be rewarded for playing on though adversity . Throwing away an entire season a in the name , nbelittling the spirt of sport and screw the paying fans to get a top player seems wrong on so many levels.
I think the Lakers tanking is more related to the Suns tanking and not trying to catch the Nets. Lakers want to finish at least 2nd worst so they can try to land a top 3 pick. Otherwise, it belongs to Philly. With the Suns on their tail I see the Lakers intentionally losing all of their winnable games (Sacramento, Minnesota and N.O.).
LAKERSSSS WINNNN!!!!
The magic number is now 2 for the Nets!
Lets go Hawks!
LAKERSSSS WINNNN!!!!
The magic number is now 2 for the Nets!
Lets go Hawks!
If Boston beats Nets magic number is 1.
LAKERSSSS WINNNN!!!!
The magic number is now 2 for the Nets!
Lets go Hawks!
If Boston beats Nets magic number is 1.
Awesome win by Lakers.
Forget everything I ever said about the Lakers tanking. I was only kidding!!!
Thank you, Magic, for letting them play today!!
Go Hawks!!! Grab back that 5th seed from the Bucks!!!
Why do I take more joy in the Nets clinching last place than in the Celtics clinching first place.
Need to talk to a shrink, LOL...
Awesome win by Lakers.
Forget everything I ever said about the Lakers tanking. I was only kidding!!!
Thank you, Magic, for letting them play today!!
Go Hawks!!! Grab back that 5th seed from the Bucks!!!
Why do I take more joy in the Nets clinching last place than in the Celtics clinching first place.
Need to talk to a shrink, LOL...
Must suck for the Nets to know that every time they lose the Celtics win, and the Lakers it must suck for them that every time they win now, the Celtics win. HAHAHAHAHAHA !!!!
Over at the Lakers board they're all mad and fighting each other over the win ;D :D
http://forums.lakersground.net/viewtopic.php?t=181457&start=675
Awesome win by Lakers.
Forget everything I ever said about the Lakers tanking. I was only kidding!!!
Thank you, Magic, for letting them play today!!
Go Hawks!!! Grab back that 5th seed from the Bucks!!!
Why do I take more joy in the Nets clinching last place than in the Celtics clinching first place.
Need to talk to a shrink, LOL...
Must suck for the Nets to know that every time they lose the Celtics win, and the Lakers it must suck for them that every time they win now, the Celtics win. HAHAHAHAHAHA !!!!
You can add to their discouragement that every time the C's win, the Nets lose. As of now, the Nets are going to swap their top 4 pick for the C's #27 (could get as low as 28). Who would have thought at the time of the trade that the C's would be swapping #26-28 in 2017. Amazing.
Lakers win.Even better, it would have to be 4 out of 5 to tie.
So now Nets still have to win 3 out of 5 games to tie them.
Lakers win.Even better, it would have to be 4 out of 5 to tie.
So now Nets still have to win 3 out of 5 games to tie them.
Lakers win.Even better, it would have to be 4 out of 5 to tie.
So now Nets still have to win 3 out of 5 games to tie them.
Yeah. Basically, we need to beat the Nets, and then Chicago has to win one of their two games with Brooklyn.
Figured the Lakers would win another game but against Memphis? lol
That's a wrap folks. :D
Lakers win.Even better, it would have to be 4 out of 5 to tie.
So now Nets still have to win 3 out of 5 games to tie them.
Yeah. Basically, we need to beat the Nets, and then Chicago has to win one of their two games with Brooklyn.
Indy,Chi,Atl,Mil,and Miami are all fighting for the last few playoff spots. Chi should step up to at least one of those games.
So what's the benefit of Lopez still playing?
That's a nice story. I guess you gotta look for something to be positive about when your GM mortgages your future to another team lol
That's a nice story. I guess you gotta look for something to be positive about when your GM mortgages your future to another team lol
True, but another truly stupid Nyets decision.
If Lopez gets injured, his value as a tradable asset really plummets.
Lopez doesn't have much value. If he did, he'd have already been traded.That's a nice story. I guess you gotta look for something to be positive about when your GM mortgages your future to another team lol
True, but another truly stupid Nyets decision.
If Lopez gets injured, his value as a tradable asset really plummets.
And here I tought the Sixers are done tanking :-\It'd be stupid for them to tank tonight. Putting a nail in the Nets would improve their chances of taking that Lakers pick in this draft. If the Nets win out (except v. the Celtics) and the Suns/Lakers lose out, the Nets/Celts will be in a 3-way tie for the top slot (I think they'd split the ping-pong balls but would coin flip their way to draft order). In this scenario, the Sixers are at great risk for losing the pick. Beating the Nets tonight keeps the possibility open that Lakers/Suns will coin flip for the 2nd/3rd slot heading into the lottery -- leaving the Sixers in decent position to pick up the 4th or 5th pick in this draft.
Even if the Lakers finish 3rd worst by themselves, the Sixers only have a 53.1% chance of getting the Lakers pick this year. Beating the Nets has no effect on a Lakers/Suns coin flip assuming there even is one. The Sixers are better off losing the rest of their games to ensure they finish 5th worst or possibly 4th worst.And here I tought the Sixers are done tanking :-\It'd be stupid for them to tank tonight. Putting a nail in the Nets would improve their chances of taking that Lakers pick in this draft. If the Nets win out (except v. the Celtics) and the Suns/Lakers lose out, the Nets/Celts will be in a 3-way tie for the top slot (I think they'd split the ping-pong balls but would coin flip their way to draft order). In this scenario, the Sixers are at great risk for losing the pick. Beating the Nets tonight keeps the possibility open that Lakers/Suns will coin flip for the 2nd/3rd slot heading into the lottery -- leaving the Sixers in decent position to pick up the 4th or 5th pick in this draft.
But the Nets are rolling tonight.
I knew this was going to happen . Suns and Lakers are trying to looseThis is still unlikely. After this win tonight, the Nets would still have to go 3-1 to catch LA/Phoenix and they've got a game against the C's (fighting for #1) and two games against the Bulls (fighting for the playoffs).
Others teams that are trying to loose will wind up worse than Nets
Nets trying win.
NBA is screwed up.
Our hope now is Lakers are stupid enough to take Ball
I knew this was going to happen . Suns and Lakers are trying to loose
Others teams that are trying to loose will wind up worse than Nets
Nets trying win.
NBA is screwed up.
Our hope now is Lakers are stupid enough to take Ball
141 points? How is that even possible with that roster (even against a depleted Philly team)? Nobody even scored more than 16 points either - that is crazy!They scored 143 on NOLA lol. Brooklyn sometimes gets super hot shooting 3s and doesnt seem to stop making them for that game
Not a great night for the Cs with the Nets win, Washington win, and Toronto loss (assuming we get the 1 seed, big assumption...)
I console myself with the thought that Josh Jackson and Jayson Tatum are both exciting prospects, and if the Celts get one of them there wouldn't be the same controversy over what it means for the roster as there would be if the Celts draft Fultz or Ball.
If they end up at #5, though, I'll be pretty bummed.
Nets are going to end as worst team.. Period.
I knew this was going to happen . Suns and Lakers are trying to looseThis is still unlikely. After this win tonight, the Nets would still have to go 3-1 to catch LA/Phoenix and they've got a game against the C's (fighting for #1) and two games against the Bulls (fighting for the playoffs).
Others teams that are trying to loose will wind up worse than Nets
Nets trying win.
NBA is screwed up.
Our hope now is Lakers are stupid enough to take Ball
All of this assuming LA and Phoenix lose out.
Nets are a much better team this past month.
A lot of denial on this board of that fact.
Their performance tonight does not surprise me.
Wouldn't be surprised if that beat us. They're a confident group of late.
Nets are going to end as worst team.. Period.
Nets are going to end as worst team.. Period.
I sure hope you're right.
They could very well take both against the Bulls. Do the Bulls even have anyone to contain Lopez?
Celtics may not be as motivated to beat them if they're locked into the two seed.
It's not having the #1 pick that's the most important thing, just not falling out of the top 4 is paramount. :'(
Lakers up 19 half-way through the 2nd quarter. My hopes are low nonetheless -- unless SAS decides that Leonard and LMA need the rest of the night off (Manu not playing).
Lakers might pull this one out
Holy hell the Lakers might actually beat the Spurs! Please, please, please do it. That'd make tonight not so bad knowing that we could lock up the best odds by tomorrow.
Lakers might pull this one out
Dude, this is BS. The Lakers are blatantly trying to blow this game now. They don't even have any of their main guys in a close game at the end...
Holy hell the Lakers might actually beat the Spurs! Please, please, please do it. That'd make tonight not so bad knowing that we could lock up the best odds by tomorrow.
Suns are still in the way, but I'm still not worried.
Now the Suns are a problem lol
Over at the Lakers board they're all mad and fighting each other over the win ;D :D
http://forums.lakersground.net/viewtopic.php?t=181457&start=675
(Don't worry Tankers, next game is the Spurs in SA. We WILL lose that one. LOLOLOL)
Saltlover is now a father? Congratulations on entering fatherhood and I wish your family wellHoly hell the Lakers might actually beat the Spurs! Please, please, please do it. That'd make tonight not so bad knowing that we could lock up the best odds by tomorrow.
Suns are still in the way, but I'm still not worried.
The math is on our side, but I'm still a bit nervous.
Phoenix has three games left after tonight, none of which they will likely win.
Fortunately, Orlando has been showing signs of life, and it's going to be tough for them to beat Chicago twice, given that Chicago is fighting for a playoff spot. And I'd like to assume that we will knock them off in Boston. They have to go 3-1 and hope that Phoenix doesn't win anything. The latter is clearly more likely than the former.
BTW, how's daddyhood?
Mike
Holy hell the Lakers might actually beat the Spurs! Please, please, please do it. That'd make tonight not so bad knowing that we could lock up the best odds by tomorrow.
Suns are still in the way, but I'm still not worried.
The math is on our side, but I'm still a bit nervous.
Phoenix has three games left after tonight, none of which they will likely win.
Fortunately, Orlando has been showing signs of life, and it's going to be tough for them to beat Chicago twice, given that Chicago is fighting for a playoff spot. And I'd like to assume that we will knock them off in Boston. They have to go 3-1 and hope that Phoenix doesn't win anything. The latter is clearly more likely than the former.
BTW, how's daddyhood?
Mike
Congrats on the new family addition. So, inquiring minds want to know -- do call her "Little Salty" or "Saltine"? ;DHoly hell the Lakers might actually beat the Spurs! Please, please, please do it. That'd make tonight not so bad knowing that we could lock up the best odds by tomorrow.
Suns are still in the way, but I'm still not worried.
The math is on our side, but I'm still a bit nervous.
Phoenix has three games left after tonight, none of which they will likely win.
Fortunately, Orlando has been showing signs of life, and it's going to be tough for them to beat Chicago twice, given that Chicago is fighting for a playoff spot. And I'd like to assume that we will knock them off in Boston. They have to go 3-1 and hope that Phoenix doesn't win anything. The latter is clearly more likely than the former.
BTW, how's daddyhood?
Mike
Huge meltdown out of nowhere last night. Lasted about an hour -- I don't think we'd had one last more than ten minutes before since she was about two weeks old. But it conveniently started at 8, so it prevented me from watching a different meltdown.
Otherwise it's great, thanks! ;D
Holy hell the Lakers might actually beat the Spurs! Please, please, please do it. That'd make tonight not so bad knowing that we could lock up the best odds by tomorrow.
Suns are still in the way, but I'm still not worried.
The math is on our side, but I'm still a bit nervous.
Phoenix has three games left after tonight, none of which they will likely win.
Fortunately, Orlando has been showing signs of life, and it's going to be tough for them to beat Chicago twice, given that Chicago is fighting for a playoff spot. And I'd like to assume that we will knock them off in Boston. They have to go 3-1 and hope that Phoenix doesn't win anything. The latter is clearly more likely than the former.
BTW, how's daddyhood?
Mike
Huge meltdown out of nowhere last night. Lasted about an hour -- I don't think we'd had one last more than ten minutes before since she was about two weeks old. But it conveniently started at 8, so it prevented me from watching a different meltdown.
Otherwise it's great, thanks! ;D
Holy hell the Lakers might actually beat the Spurs! Please, please, please do it. That'd make tonight not so bad knowing that we could lock up the best odds by tomorrow.
Suns are still in the way, but I'm still not worried.
The math is on our side, but I'm still a bit nervous.
Phoenix has three games left after tonight, none of which they will likely win.
Fortunately, Orlando has been showing signs of life, and it's going to be tough for them to beat Chicago twice, given that Chicago is fighting for a playoff spot. And I'd like to assume that we will knock them off in Boston. They have to go 3-1 and hope that Phoenix doesn't win anything. The latter is clearly more likely than the former.
BTW, how's daddyhood?
Mike
Huge meltdown out of nowhere last night. Lasted about an hour -- I don't think we'd had one last more than ten minutes before since she was about two weeks old. But it conveniently started at 8, so it prevented me from watching a different meltdown.
Otherwise it's great, thanks! ;D
Wait until you hit the Princess stage...
Mike
Holy hell the Lakers might actually beat the Spurs! Please, please, please do it. That'd make tonight not so bad knowing that we could lock up the best odds by tomorrow.
Suns are still in the way, but I'm still not worried.
The math is on our side, but I'm still a bit nervous.
Phoenix has three games left after tonight, none of which they will likely win.
Fortunately, Orlando has been showing signs of life, and it's going to be tough for them to beat Chicago twice, given that Chicago is fighting for a playoff spot. And I'd like to assume that we will knock them off in Boston. They have to go 3-1 and hope that Phoenix doesn't win anything. The latter is clearly more likely than the former.
BTW, how's daddyhood?
Mike
Huge meltdown out of nowhere last night. Lasted about an hour -- I don't think we'd had one last more than ten minutes before since she was about two weeks old. But it conveniently started at 8, so it prevented me from watching a different meltdown.
Otherwise it's great, thanks! ;D
Wait until you hit the Princess stage...
Mike
Wait til she hits the college stage $$$
Holy hell the Lakers might actually beat the Spurs! Please, please, please do it. That'd make tonight not so bad knowing that we could lock up the best odds by tomorrow.
Suns are still in the way, but I'm still not worried.
The math is on our side, but I'm still a bit nervous.
Phoenix has three games left after tonight, none of which they will likely win.
Fortunately, Orlando has been showing signs of life, and it's going to be tough for them to beat Chicago twice, given that Chicago is fighting for a playoff spot. And I'd like to assume that we will knock them off in Boston. They have to go 3-1 and hope that Phoenix doesn't win anything. The latter is clearly more likely than the former.
BTW, how's daddyhood?
Mike
Huge meltdown out of nowhere last night. Lasted about an hour -- I don't think we'd had one last more than ten minutes before since she was about two weeks old. But it conveniently started at 8, so it prevented me from watching a different meltdown.
Otherwise it's great, thanks! ;D
Wait until you hit the Princess stage...
Mike
Wait til she hits the college stage $$$
Holy hell the Lakers might actually beat the Spurs! Please, please, please do it. That'd make tonight not so bad knowing that we could lock up the best odds by tomorrow.
Suns are still in the way, but I'm still not worried.
The math is on our side, but I'm still a bit nervous.
Phoenix has three games left after tonight, none of which they will likely win.
Fortunately, Orlando has been showing signs of life, and it's going to be tough for them to beat Chicago twice, given that Chicago is fighting for a playoff spot. And I'd like to assume that we will knock them off in Boston. They have to go 3-1 and hope that Phoenix doesn't win anything. The latter is clearly more likely than the former.
BTW, how's daddyhood?
Mike
Huge meltdown out of nowhere last night. Lasted about an hour -- I don't think we'd had one last more than ten minutes before since she was about two weeks old. But it conveniently started at 8, so it prevented me from watching a different meltdown.
Otherwise it's great, thanks! ;D
Wait until you hit the Princess stage...
Mike
Wait til she hits the college stage $$$
Please, @SaltLover will probably be able to manage all the $$$ aspects just like he manages all the Celtics cap questions around here :laugh:
Btw, congrats @saltlover!
They can play us to within an inch of our lives but can't destroy the Nets? Sigh.
If Orlando loses this game, I'm canceling my trip to Disney World.
Mike
They can play us to within an inch of our lives but can't destroy the Nets? Sigh.
If Orlando loses this game, I'm canceling my trip to Disney World.
Mike
...Lead down to 5 again. I gotta hand it to the Nets they make things interesting.
All better. Orlando about to seal it....Lead down to 5 again. I gotta hand it to the Nets they make things interesting.
I blame Jeremy Lin.
...Lead down to 5 again. I gotta hand it to the Nets they make things interesting.
I blame Jeremy Lin.
Aw yeahhhhhjust the sort of news i needed tonight.
Nets just need to lose 1 to either us, or the bulls(X2) and best odds are ours.
Suns still in the race but good progressWhy 2? I know about the protected pick. What else?
Lakers now have a 51.3% chance of losing TWO 1st Rd picks :D. pure stupidity... a display of utter incompetence by winning two meaningless games.
Suns still in the race but good progressWhy 2? I know about the protected pick. What else?
Lakers now have a 51.3% chance of losing TWO 1st Rd picks :D. pure stupidity... a display of utter incompetence by winning two meaningless games.
Suns still in the race but good progressWhy 2? I know about the protected pick. What else?
Lakers now have a 51.3% chance of losing TWO 1st Rd picks :D. pure stupidity... a display of utter incompetence by winning two meaningless games.
If the pick conveys to Philly this year, then their 2019 pock will go to Orlando (from the Dwight Howard trade). If the pick doesn't convey to Philly, then the pick to Orlando becomes two 2nds
truly the definition of a no-win situation for C's fans. either the Lakers get another top pick this year or the Philly dumpster fire gets 2 top picks this year.Suns still in the race but good progressWhy 2? I know about the protected pick. What else?
Lakers now have a 51.3% chance of losing TWO 1st Rd picks :D. pure stupidity... a display of utter incompetence by winning two meaningless games.
If the pick conveys to Philly this year, then their 2019 pock will go to Orlando (from the Dwight Howard trade). If the pick doesn't convey to Philly, then the pick to Orlando becomes two 2nds
I really don't want the Sixers to get two top 8 picks but it would be too sweet to see that happen to the Lakers.
Mike
If Embiid ever stays healthy I see a early-mid 80's Sixers team (though that team was LOADED with HOF's and All-Stars) in a couple of years, especially if they get the LAL pick this year. Wouldn't mind rehashing that old rivalry, as long as we get a Larry Bird-like talent in the next draft or two :)
Suns still in the race but good progressJust further proof that players don't tank. They play to win and sometimes no matter what the GM and head coach try to do to lose, the players are going to win because that's what they get paid to do.
Lakers now have a 51.3% chance of losing TWO 1st Rd picks :D. pure stupidity... a display of utter incompetence by winning two meaningless games.
If Embiid ever stays healthyHe won't.
Suns still in the race but good progressJust further proof that players don't tank. They play to win and sometimes no matter what the GM and head coach try to do to lose, the players are going to win because that's what they get paid to do.
Lakers now have a 51.3% chance of losing TWO 1st Rd picks :D. pure stupidity... a display of utter incompetence by winning two meaningless games.
I'm imagining for myself a scenario where Popovich and the Spurs actually tanked that game just to Edited. Profanity and masked profanity are against forum rules and may result in discipline. the Lakers. l ;DSuns still in the race but good progressJust further proof that players don't tank. They play to win and sometimes no matter what the GM and head coach try to do to lose, the players are going to win because that's what they get paid to do.
Lakers now have a 51.3% chance of losing TWO 1st Rd picks :D. pure stupidity... a display of utter incompetence by winning two meaningless games.
That last game against the Spurs Walton didn't even have his starters in at the end. I'm pretty sure the entire bench group finished the game, which was an obvious tanking attempt that still didn't work due to them being up too much to begin with. It's hilarious, because that worthless win could ultimately be franchise altering for them.
truly the definition of a no-win situation for C's fans. either the Lakers get another top pick this year or the Philly dumpster fire gets 2 top picks this year.Suns still in the race but good progressWhy 2? I know about the protected pick. What else?
Lakers now have a 51.3% chance of losing TWO 1st Rd picks :D. pure stupidity... a display of utter incompetence by winning two meaningless games.
If the pick conveys to Philly this year, then their 2019 pock will go to Orlando (from the Dwight Howard trade). If the pick doesn't convey to Philly, then the pick to Orlando becomes two 2nds
I really don't want the Sixers to get two top 8 picks but it would be too sweet to see that happen to the Lakers.
Mike
wooo
hope we take care of business when we play them.
Look at that Suns score. Tonight may be the clincher. 8)
How did Hawks beat LeBron, or did he sit that one out.
Now let's get some lottery balls!!
Fultz to Beantown.
Fultz to Beantown.yes! Its gotta happen
Dream scenary:
Phoenix 1, Celtics 2, Dallas 3, Lakers & Sixers out of top-3.
Phoenix picks Ball, we get Fultz who, as second pick, takes less salary cap than Ball. It would be essential to our chances of signing a max player next summer.
Now we relax until May 16th.
Now we relax until May 16th.
Celtics fans don't relax when it comes to the draft lottery.
Dream scenary:
Phoenix 1, Celtics 2, Dallas 3, Lakers & Sixers out of top-3.
Phoenix picks Ball, we get Fultz who, as second pick, takes less salary cap than Ball. It would be essential to our chances of signing a max player next summer.
Frankly, if you want a max free agent without too much hassle this summer, you should be rooting for us to pick 4th. Picking 2nd is still going to require about the same amount of maneuvering as 1st at this point. Maybe you wouldn't have to dump Demetrius Jackson, but he's not going to be a sticking point in any scenario.
Since Nets obviously didn't tank, Silver should just grant them (us following swap) the 1st pick, and let the lottery be for the 2nd and 3rd picks.
Seems fair, right?
I wish.
i say the league will want to recreate a celtics dynasty and give the celtics the first 5 picks in the next 7 drafts.
there, now go say how "someone said" this. ;D
right you are and a tp. i had forgotten about "sombebody".i say the league will want to recreate a celtics dynasty and give the celtics the first 5 picks in the next 7 drafts.
there, now go say how "someone said" this. ;D
LOL ..... Actually 'Somebody' is a poster here, and you can check out his/her post in the 'Brooklyn Nets Worst Record in the NBA Party' thread. See, I bet you did not know 'Somebody' was a real poster. LOL.
Thanking the Suns once again. I'll tell you Butler is a good player. I wouldn't consider him clutch though.
Of the many things I love about that 2013 trade, one of the most satisfying is that we built a 50 win team before Brooklyn did :D
Brooklyn have played really well to close the season. It'll be interesting to see what happens with them this summer. I think they will finally trade Lopez, possibly at draft time. They have two picks in this draft, currently 22 and 26. If they could get one more, or a 2018 pick then they'd be in good shape building a young core going forward.
In the summer I expect them to look strongly at guys like KO. Although he's older than the core they'd be building, he should provide them with a relatively cheap 5 man to build around. Maybe he becomes a good trade asset in a few years.
Overall my expectation for them next year remains pick 5-8, which is what I thought they'd be this year. By the time they get to pick again they should be in much better shape going forward
Brooklyn have played really well to close the season. It'll be interesting to see what happens with them this summer. I think they will finally trade Lopez, possibly at draft time. They have two picks in this draft, currently 22 and 26. If they could get one more, or a 2018 pick then they'd be in good shape building a young core going forward.
In the summer I expect them to look strongly at guys like KO. Although he's older than the core they'd be building, he should provide them with a relatively cheap 5 man to build around. Maybe he becomes a good trade asset in a few years.
Overall my expectation for them next year remains pick 5-8, which is what I thought they'd be this year. By the time they get to pick again they should be in much better shape going forward
Every Vegas sports book had them dead last in the league going into this year, and they were right. What made you think they would be better than that?
And I disagree with the 5-8 position next year, I think they'll be bottom-5 again.
A good run at the end when most other teams have mailed it in doesn't erase four months of historically bad basketball.
And they have few avenues to improve. Any free agent worth his salt knows they are a dead-end location.
Brooklyn have played really well to close the season. It'll be interesting to see what happens with them this summer. I think they will finally trade Lopez, possibly at draft time. They have two picks in this draft, currently 22 and 26. If they could get one more, or a 2018 pick then they'd be in good shape building a young core going forward.
In the summer I expect them to look strongly at guys like KO. Although he's older than the core they'd be building, he should provide them with a relatively cheap 5 man to build around. Maybe he becomes a good trade asset in a few years.
Overall my expectation for them next year remains pick 5-8, which is what I thought they'd be this year. By the time they get to pick again they should be in much better shape going forward
Every Vegas sports book had them dead last in the league going into this year, and they were right. What made you think they would be better than that?
And I disagree with the 5-8 position next year, I think they'll be bottom-5 again.
A good run at the end when most other teams have mailed it in doesn't erase four months of historically bad basketball.
And they have few avenues to improve. Any free agent worth his salt knows they are a dead-end location.
Brooklyn have played really well to close the season. It'll be interesting to see what happens with them this summer. I think they will finally trade Lopez, possibly at draft time. They have two picks in this draft, currently 22 and 26. If they could get one more, or a 2018 pick then they'd be in good shape building a young core going forward.
In the summer I expect them to look strongly at guys like KO. Although he's older than the core they'd be building, he should provide them with a relatively cheap 5 man to build around. Maybe he becomes a good trade asset in a few years.
Overall my expectation for them next year remains pick 5-8, which is what I thought they'd be this year. By the time they get to pick again they should be in much better shape going forward
Every Vegas sports book had them dead last in the league going into this year, and they were right. What made you think they would be better than that?
And I disagree with the 5-8 position next year, I think they'll be bottom-5 again.
A good run at the end when most other teams have mailed it in doesn't erase four months of historically bad basketball.
And they have few avenues to improve. Any free agent worth his salt knows they are a dead-end location.
Well, Brooklyn was able to sign Jeremy Lin who is a solid player "worth his salt". Brooklyn was also able to sign Tyler Johnson to an offer sheet, who is also clearly "worth his salt". Brooklyn would have to overpay a bit again to lure similar players, and it may not behoove them to since they are getting close to being able to keep their own pick finally. But if they go that route, they definitely could acquire some help in the FA market.
Who knows if they will actually trade Lopez or not. They should if they can get good value for him, which would obviously make them a much worse team in the short term. They also could look to trade Lin at some point if someone makes them a good offer.
But until they actually jettison those players, there exists the chance Brooklyn could easily move up in the standings next year. Probable not very much, but enough to avoid conveying another top 4 pick. Had Jeremy Lin been healthy and not missed so much time this year, Brooklyn probably does finish outside the bottom 5. He's been that critical to whatever little success they have had this season.
Personally, I hope they trade Lopez. Doing that would seemingly almost assure them of being a bottom 3 team yet again.
Brooklyn have played really well to close the season. It'll be interesting to see what happens with them this summer. I think they will finally trade Lopez, possibly at draft time. They have two picks in this draft, currently 22 and 26. If they could get one more, or a 2018 pick then they'd be in good shape building a young core going forward.
In the summer I expect them to look strongly at guys like KO. Although he's older than the core they'd be building, he should provide them with a relatively cheap 5 man to build around. Maybe he becomes a good trade asset in a few years.
Overall my expectation for them next year remains pick 5-8, which is what I thought they'd be this year. By the time they get to pick again they should be in much better shape going forward
Every Vegas sports book had them dead last in the league going into this year, and they were right. What made you think they would be better than that?
And I disagree with the 5-8 position next year, I think they'll be bottom-5 again.
A good run at the end when most other teams have mailed it in doesn't erase four months of historically bad basketball.
And they have few avenues to improve. Any free agent worth his salt knows they are a dead-end location.
The Official 2017-2018 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (0-0, tied for #1 on 4/10)
Isn't it time to rename this thread to:QuoteThe Official 2017-2018 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (0-0, tied for #1 on 4/10)
And also, thank you Brooklyn Nets for the gift that keeps on giving.
Isn't it time to rename this thread to:QuoteThe Official 2017-2018 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (0-0, tied for #1 on 4/10)
And also, thank you Brooklyn Nets for the gift that keeps on giving.
Tied with who? They are 4 games behind Phoenix with 2 to play.
Brooklyn have played really well to close the season. It'll be interesting to see what happens with them this summer. I think they will finally trade Lopez, possibly at draft time. They have two picks in this draft, currently 22 and 26. If they could get one more, or a 2018 pick then they'd be in good shape building a young core going forward.
In the summer I expect them to look strongly at guys like KO. Although he's older than the core they'd be building, he should provide them with a relatively cheap 5 man to build around. Maybe he becomes a good trade asset in a few years.
Overall my expectation for them next year remains pick 5-8, which is what I thought they'd be this year. By the time they get to pick again they should be in much better shape going forward
Every Vegas sports book had them dead last in the league going into this year, and they were right. What made you think they would be better than that?
And I disagree with the 5-8 position next year, I think they'll be bottom-5 again.
A good run at the end when most other teams have mailed it in doesn't erase four months of historically bad basketball.
And they have few avenues to improve. Any free agent worth his salt knows they are a dead-end location.
When Lin has been healthy they haven't performed as a bottom 5 team. The way I look at it every year there will be at least one team going into the season at the start of a rebuild (this year was an exception, probably because of the salary cap jump) so they will be challenging BRK for bottom. Then there's a few young teams who fail to live up to expectation (think Magic, NO in years past) and finally there are the teams like the Lakers who mail it in toward the end of the season.
If Brooklyn went into next season with the same roster I wouldn't be concerned. However I expect them to hit on some RFAs this year as teams won't have the luxury of a booming cap. I could easily see them landing someone like KO or Mirotic who would be a huge upgrade at the PF spot, then sign a guy like Porter (although Was should match) or Hardaway Jr.
If they do trade Lopez then some salary is coming back their way, I expect them to aim to get a mid to late first and then a veteran presence at the least. Whilst they get worse on paper I don't think it affects them too much. Trading him to Chicago for his brother and their 1st this year would be a fairly decent return, perhaps as part of a S&T for Mirotic.
It's an uphill battle for them but to ignore the progress they have made as a team this year is being ignorant
Isn't it time to rename this thread to:QuoteThe Official 2017-2018 Brooklyn Nets Season Watch Thread (0-0, tied for #1 on 4/10)
And also, thank you Brooklyn Nets for the gift that keeps on giving.
Tied with who? They are 4 games behind Phoenix with 2 to play.
Tied with everybody with 82 games to play.
Vermont Green is suggesting that, with the worst record locked down, we change this to the 2017-18 season thread (although I disagree, we should wait until after the lottery)
Brooklyn have played really well to close the season. It'll be interesting to see what happens with them this summer. I think they will finally trade Lopez, possibly at draft time. They have two picks in this draft, currently 22 and 26. If they could get one more, or a 2018 pick then they'd be in good shape building a young core going forward.
In the summer I expect them to look strongly at guys like KO. Although he's older than the core they'd be building, he should provide them with a relatively cheap 5 man to build around. Maybe he becomes a good trade asset in a few years.
Overall my expectation for them next year remains pick 5-8, which is what I thought they'd be this year. By the time they get to pick again they should be in much better shape going forward
Every Vegas sports book had them dead last in the league going into this year, and they were right. What made you think they would be better than that?
And I disagree with the 5-8 position next year, I think they'll be bottom-5 again.
A good run at the end when most other teams have mailed it in doesn't erase four months of historically bad basketball.
And they have few avenues to improve. Any free agent worth his salt knows they are a dead-end location.
They will likely get a bit worse when they move Lopez finally. I also expect the other teams like the Lakers , Sixers and Suns to get better because they will actually have high draft picks to add. The Suns will also have Bender back healthy and more experienced, and the Sixers will get Simmons and Embiid back and add a lottery pick or two.
What's the likelihood that they trade Lopez before the start of the season? I would assume they'll try like hell, though I probably would have assumed the same thing a year ago. Without Lopez, they'll be significantly worse.
How are the Nets doing tonight, oh wait.
How are the Nets doing tonight, oh wait.
Who,are they playing tonight ?
How are the Nets doing tonight, oh wait.
Who,are they playing tonight ?
How are the Nets doing tonight, oh wait.
Who,are they playing tonight ?
They are playing their beneficiary.
How are the Nets doing tonight, oh wait.
Who,are they playing tonight ?
They are playing their beneficiary.
Us .....Celtics Blog ......say Thank you Brooklin
Tempting to start up the old Official 2018 Brooklyn Nets Watch!! ;D ;D ;D
Pretty funny that Brooklyn's going to wind up with almost exactly the same record as last season but they'll be comfortably in #1 instead of #3 and way ahead of the bottom 2. Cellar teams weren't nearly as atrocious this year.
Pretty funny that Brooklyn's going to wind up with almost exactly the same record as last season but they'll be comfortably in #1 instead of #3 and way ahead of the bottom 2. Cellar teams weren't nearly as atrocious this year.Yeah, we've lucked out with these Brooklyn picks in a number of ways, not the least of which is that there were a ton of teams tanking 2 and 3 years ago and now all of those teams are in a different part of the rebuilding cycle so you don't have the pileup at the bottom that there was for the Wiggins and then Towns drafts. If there was the same kind of tanking going on in the league the Nets might be #5 or #6. But the only real tankers this seasons were LA and Phoenix and no one in the East was trying to lose games (even Philly started to pivot toward winning more this season).
I have a question.
Why is there a Brooklyn Nets thread on a Celtic Blog? Do the Celtics have an ownership interest in the Nets?
I have a question.We are outsourceing tanking via Nets. We have to watch and evaluate how well they are at their job.
Why is there a Brooklyn Nets thread on a Celtic Blog? Do the Celtics have an ownership interest in the Nets?
I have a question.We are outsourceing tanking via Nets. We have to watch and evaluate how well they are at their job.
Why is there a Brooklyn Nets thread on a Celtic Blog? Do the Celtics have an ownership interest in the Nets?
LOL, the Lakers won yet again and are locked in at #3 now.
Assuming Brooklyn loses tonight with half their roster sitting, they'll finish between 4-7 games short of catching Phoenix + LA. This is why a lot of people weren't too worried even as they started heating up late. It was just too much to get out of the hole they dug over the first 75% of the year.
LOL, the Lakers won yet again and are locked in at #3 now.
Assuming Brooklyn loses tonight with half their roster sitting, they'll finish between 4-7 games short of catching Phoenix + LA. This is why a lot of people weren't too worried even as they started heating up late. It was just too much to get out of the hole they dug over the first 75% of the year.
And I'm rooting for them to finish at #3. If they still owe their pick to PHL next year, it will be unprotected, so I won't have to worry about them tanking.
Mike
LOL, the Lakers won yet again and are locked in at #3 now.
Assuming Brooklyn loses tonight with half their roster sitting, they'll finish between 4-7 games short of catching Phoenix + LA. This is why a lot of people weren't too worried even as they started heating up late. It was just too much to get out of the hole they dug over the first 75% of the year.
And I'm rooting for them to finish at #3. If they still owe their pick to PHL next year, it will be unprotected, so I won't have to worry about them tanking.
Mike
LOL, the Lakers won yet again and are locked in at #3 now.
Assuming Brooklyn loses tonight with half their roster sitting, they'll finish between 4-7 games short of catching Phoenix + LA. This is why a lot of people weren't too worried even as they started heating up late. It was just too much to get out of the hole they dug over the first 75% of the year.
And I'm rooting for them to finish at #3. If they still owe their pick to PHL next year, it will be unprotected, so I won't have to worry about them tanking.
Mike
The flip side of that is that if they send the 1st to Philly this year, they'll also have to send their 2019 1st to Orlando to fulfill the Dwight Howard trade. Otherwise it turns into 2 2nds. So there's tradeoffs either way.
I honestly wouldn't mind them suckingfor a 5th straight season next year, high pick or not.in perpetuity
7 mins ago – via Twitter APOOCH
Anthony Puccio: It seems pretty evident that Milos Teodosic is a main target for the Brooklyn Nets. Sean Marks has visited more than once in the past year.
11 hours ago – via New York Post
Brooklyn’s interest in Teodosic is well-known. The 30-year-old point guard was voted the best player outside the NBA by league general managers earlier this year, leading Serbia to a silver medal in Rio and CSKA Moscow — Nets owner Mikhail Prokhorov’s old team — to a Euroleague title. Teodosic’s passing has brought comparisons to former Nets great Jason Kidd.
LOL, the Lakers won yet again and are locked in at #3 now.
Assuming Brooklyn loses tonight with half their roster sitting, they'll finish between 4-7 games short of catching Phoenix + LA. This is why a lot of people weren't too worried even as they started heating up late. It was just too much to get out of the hole they dug over the first 75% of the year.
And I'm rooting for them to finish at #3. If they still owe their pick to PHL next year, it will be unprotected, so I won't have to worry about them tanking.
Mike
The flip side of that is that if they send the 1st to Philly this year, they'll also have to send their 2019 1st to Orlando to fulfill the Dwight Howard trade. Otherwise it turns into 2 2nds. So there's tradeoffs either way.
I honestly wouldn't mind them suckingfor a 5th straight season next year, high pick or not.in perpetuity
fixed that for you
Nets are chasing Euro guards for the future.Quote7 mins ago – via Twitter APOOCH
Anthony Puccio: It seems pretty evident that Milos Teodosic is a main target for the Brooklyn Nets. Sean Marks has visited more than once in the past year.
11 hours ago – via New York PostQuoteBrooklyn’s interest in Teodosic is well-known. The 30-year-old point guard was voted the best player outside the NBA by league general managers earlier this year, leading Serbia to a silver medal in Rio and CSKA Moscow — Nets owner Mikhail Prokhorov’s old team — to a Euroleague title. Teodosic’s passing has brought comparisons to former Nets great Jason Kidd.
We should be onto the 2017-2018 Nets Watch Thread..........Favourite guy atm is Bamba
with that said, we all (well, almost all) expect the Nets to suck again. At least suck enough to land a top 10 pick. I am looking forward to following all the top prospects next year and there are a lot of them. I am particularly high on this list of top 7 but would love to land one of the top 4.
Michael Porter
6-10
215
SF
Missouri
HSSr.
DeAndre Ayton
7-0
250
C
Arizona
HSSr.
Luka Doncic
6-7
220
SG/SF
Slovenia
Intl.
Mohamed Bamba
7-0
215
C
Robert Williams
6-9
235
PF/C
Texas A&M
Kevin Knox
6-9
205
SF/PF
Undecided
HSSr.
Wendell Carter
6-10
260
PF/C
Duke
HSSr
Do you think the Nets fans have a thread for the Celtics 2015-2017 season because they had our pick swap? LOL !!!!!They definitely have one because they would desire to minimize the damage done, but apparently this is the worst case scenario for them 😂
Really need to start up the old Nets watch again.
Some FAs might be tempted to go there and start something. Paul Milsap, Kelly Olynyk, Otto Porter
I'm kind of worried about KCP. The Pistons might not be willing to match a max offer for him.Really need to start up the old Nets watch again.
Some FAs might be tempted to go there and start something. Paul Milsap, Kelly Olynyk, Otto Porter
Not worried about Milsap, who will have plenty of options, or Porter, who will get matched by Washington. KO? Not sure. I figure he'll have some options, too, and I wonder what kind of premium BKN would have to offer him to join a team where he'll be the BSD after Lopez is gone, i.e., no chance of winning. If his market value is $15m, will BKN have to offer him 20? 22?
Mike
I'm kind of worried about KCP. The Pistons might not be willing to match a max offer for him.Really need to start up the old Nets watch again.
Some FAs might be tempted to go there and start something. Paul Milsap, Kelly Olynyk, Otto Porter
Not worried about Milsap, who will have plenty of options, or Porter, who will get matched by Washington. KO? Not sure. I figure he'll have some options, too, and I wonder what kind of premium BKN would have to offer him to join a team where he'll be the BSD after Lopez is gone, i.e., no chance of winning. If his market value is $15m, will BKN have to offer him 20? 22?
Mike
KO or KCP will not help the Nets win many more games. Nothing to worry in regards to these two.I'm kind of worried about KCP. The Pistons might not be willing to match a max offer for him.Really need to start up the old Nets watch again.
Some FAs might be tempted to go there and start something. Paul Milsap, Kelly Olynyk, Otto Porter
Not worried about Milsap, who will have plenty of options, or Porter, who will get matched by Washington. KO? Not sure. I figure he'll have some options, too, and I wonder what kind of premium BKN would have to offer him to join a team where he'll be the BSD after Lopez is gone, i.e., no chance of winning. If his market value is $15m, will BKN have to offer him 20? 22?
Mike
KO or KCP will not help the Nets win many more games. Nothing to worry in regards to these two.I'm kind of worried about KCP. The Pistons might not be willing to match a max offer for him.Really need to start up the old Nets watch again.
Some FAs might be tempted to go there and start something. Paul Milsap, Kelly Olynyk, Otto Porter
Not worried about Milsap, who will have plenty of options, or Porter, who will get matched by Washington. KO? Not sure. I figure he'll have some options, too, and I wonder what kind of premium BKN would have to offer him to join a team where he'll be the BSD after Lopez is gone, i.e., no chance of winning. If his market value is $15m, will BKN have to offer him 20? 22?
Mike
Really need to start up the old Nets watch again.
Some FAs might be tempted to go there and start something. Paul Milsap, Kelly Olynyk, Otto Porter
KO or KCP will not help the Nets win many more games. Nothing to worry in regards to these two.I'm kind of worried about KCP. The Pistons might not be willing to match a max offer for him.Really need to start up the old Nets watch again.
Some FAs might be tempted to go there and start something. Paul Milsap, Kelly Olynyk, Otto Porter
Not worried about Milsap, who will have plenty of options, or Porter, who will get matched by Washington. KO? Not sure. I figure he'll have some options, too, and I wonder what kind of premium BKN would have to offer him to join a team where he'll be the BSD after Lopez is gone, i.e., no chance of winning. If his market value is $15m, will BKN have to offer him 20? 22?
Mike
TP to you, sir.
Why are people so worried about role players suddenly making the Nets a juggernaut? Both guys have skills but neither appears to move the dial much. KO is really a bench player and KCP at this stage isn't much more than a good defensive player with a mediocre offensive game. Neither move the dial all that much.
Furthermore, if the Nets are going to clutter up their roster with guys making $25m a year who would be bench players for the Celtics, all they're doing is cutting their own throats long term. You can't pay role players that kind of money and field a good team. The Nets know this. Maybe they try to make a run at both because Lopez, KO and KCP would make a team at least somewhat competitive (if still a loser). But then they lose Lopez to FA next year which is one of their few remaining assets. Long term it's counterproductive and the short term gain isn't worth it.
I fall into the minority of those who think that the Nets may actually benefit this year from the Lopez trade, but we do seem to be small.The larger threat to the Nets is not them improving (barring FA additions they will be worse), but other teams sucking more.
As far as I can tell, SAC, despite what is viewed as a good draft, remains the biggest competition for BKN's last place spot. I'm a bit nervous, though, that if Indy goes full rebuild, they could challenge. I also see Orlando as a challenger.
Mike
I still feel as though all the teams you listed have way more talent than the Nets, so I'm quite confident they'll be right at that 18-25 wins type of bad again.I fall into the minority of those who think that the Nets may actually benefit this year from the Lopez trade, but we do seem to be small.The larger threat to the Nets is not them improving (barring FA additions they will be worse), but other teams sucking more.
As far as I can tell, SAC, despite what is viewed as a good draft, remains the biggest competition for BKN's last place spot. I'm a bit nervous, though, that if Indy goes full rebuild, they could challenge. I also see Orlando as a challenger.
Mike
Sacremento, Orlando, Chicago and Indiana could all really suck next year. Not too mention the glass house that is the 76ers and the still way to young to win jack **** Suns.
CAN WE START THE NEW THREAD ALREADY...
Nets pick up options on Kilpatrick and Joe Harris (1.5/1 year each), per Wojonator.
Two quality guys.
D-League quality.
CAN WE START THE NEW THREAD ALREADY...Kilpatrick is a pretty solid 13/3/2 guy on decent efficiency. Certainly belongs in the NBA.
Nets pick up options on Kilpatrick and Joe Harris (1.5/1 year each), per Wojonator.
Two quality guys.
D-League quality.
Sean kilpatrick is a 13/3/2 guy on the Nets alone. Don't think he'd match that production on any other team in the league.CAN WE START THE NEW THREAD ALREADY...Kilpatrick is a pretty solid 13/3/2 guy on decent efficiency. Certainly belongs in the NBA.
Nets pick up options on Kilpatrick and Joe Harris (1.5/1 year each), per Wojonator.
Two quality guys.
D-League quality.
Joe Harris however, not quite.
Yeah, I'm not trying to say that those numbers are representative of how good he actually is. But he and Joe Harris are leagues (almost literally) apart.Sean kilpatrick is a 13/3/2 guy on the Nets alone. Don't think he'd match that production on any other team in the league.CAN WE START THE NEW THREAD ALREADY...Kilpatrick is a pretty solid 13/3/2 guy on decent efficiency. Certainly belongs in the NBA.
Nets pick up options on Kilpatrick and Joe Harris (1.5/1 year each), per Wojonator.
Two quality guys.
D-League quality.
Joe Harris however, not quite.
CAN WE START THE NEW THREAD ALREADY...
Nets pick up options on Kilpatrick and Joe Harris (1.5/1 year each), per Wojonator.
Two quality guys.
D-League quality.
Ah, well it needs to be pinned. And this one de-pinned..
http://forums.celticsblog.com/index.php?topic=90541.45
CAN WE START THE NEW THREAD ALREADY...
Nets pick up options on Kilpatrick and Joe Harris (1.5/1 year each), per Wojonator.
Two quality guys.
D-League quality.
Ah, well it needs to be pinned. And this one de-pinned..
http://forums.celticsblog.com/index.php?topic=90541.45
I've sent a note to the mods to ask them to move it. Hopefully it goes soon!
Mike