Just watched the last 5 minutes of Yale/Baylor. That set basketball back years between Yale's inability to figure out a full court press & Baylor's just general stupidity. That's why I'll take NBA over NCAA every day of the week.
Would love see Holy Cross shock the world tomm night & become the first 16 seed to beat a 1 seed.
I'm definitely starting to regret my Little Rock pick. They really cannot shoot to save their lives.
This Purdue game is something else. Double OT now.
I'm definitely starting to regret my Little Rock pick. They really cannot shoot to save their lives.
Don't mind eating my words here. Unbelievable win for my bracket! What a comeback by Little Rock!!
This Purdue game is something else. Double OT now.
Purdue's coach can't coach.
Wow. How he allowed a 15-3 run against his team is beyond me. And then his best player, AJ Hammons, could not even get a touch.
Utah vs Gonzaga tomorrow (Poeltl vs Sabonis) is going to be a good one!
I know I am in the minority, but I hate the NCAA Tournament. I think it's the worst way to crown a champion. There's no advantage to being a higher seed. Can we please get the first 2 rounds at home of the higher seed, and then move the sweet 16 on to neutral courts?
I know I am in the minority, but I hate the NCAA Tournament. I think it's the worst way to crown a champion. There's no advantage to being a higher seed. Can we please get the first 2 rounds at home of the higher seed, and then move the sweet 16 on to neutral courts?
Highest seeds generally get something close to homecourt - UNC and/or Duke almost always get to play in Raleigh or Greensboro for example. Even when they aren't as close the tourney's structured so they travel less. The main advantage is that you're playing inferior teams, though.
I think the problem with actual HCA is scheduling and $. The NCAA doesn't want to have to use a tiny venue like Cameron Indoor for their marquee event when they could sell 4x the tickets in a bigger arena.
Utah vs Gonzaga tomorrow (Poeltl vs Sabonis) is going to be a good one!I was really impressed by Poeltl last night. If we draft at 4/5 I'd consider him. He has great footwork, solid quickness, and sets hard screens. When he got the ball with good position it was an automatic 2 and he was difficult to handle in the pick and roll. On defense he directed their entire defense and kept people out of the paint.
I know I am in the minority, but I hate the NCAA Tournament. I think it's the worst way to crown a champion. There's no advantage to being a higher seed. Can we please get the first 2 rounds at home of the higher seed, and then move the sweet 16 on to neutral courts?
Highest seeds generally get something close to homecourt - UNC and/or Duke almost always get to play in Raleigh or Greensboro for example. Even when they aren't as close the tourney's structured so they travel less. The main advantage is that you're playing inferior teams, though.
I think the problem with actual HCA is scheduling and $. The NCAA doesn't want to have to use a tiny venue like Cameron Indoor for their marquee event when they could sell 4x the tickets in a bigger arena.
A couple problems I have:
1) Read a good article from Joe Lunardi explaining how poorly the committee did scheduling teams close to their respective areas. For example, I think Oregon is playing in Providence Rhode Island.
2) Right you're supposed to play an inferior team, but in this format it gives everyone an equal chance. That's fine if that's what you're going for, but then seeding is pointless. That's like Golden State playing a one game series against Utah on a neutral court. Utah could win that game even though they're the 'inferior opponent'
3) I get the money thing, and that's why the tournament will never change because of how much money it makes, but the Women's tournament have HCA in the first 2 rounds, so it can be done.
I know I am in the minority, but I hate the NCAA Tournament. I think it's the worst way to crown a champion. There's no advantage to being a higher seed. Can we please get the first 2 rounds at home of the higher seed, and then move the sweet 16 on to neutral courts?
Highest seeds generally get something close to homecourt - UNC and/or Duke almost always get to play in Raleigh or Greensboro for example. Even when they aren't as close the tourney's structured so they travel less. The main advantage is that you're playing inferior teams, though.
I think the problem with actual HCA is scheduling and $. The NCAA doesn't want to have to use a tiny venue like Cameron Indoor for their marquee event when they could sell 4x the tickets in a bigger arena.
A couple problems I have:
1) Read a good article from Joe Lunardi explaining how poorly the committee did scheduling teams close to their respective areas. For example, I think Oregon is playing in Providence Rhode Island.
2) Right you're supposed to play an inferior team, but in this format it gives everyone an equal chance. That's fine if that's what you're going for, but then seeding is pointless. That's like Golden State playing a one game series against Utah on a neutral court. Utah could win that game even though they're the 'inferior opponent'
3) I get the money thing, and that's why the tournament will never change because of how much money it makes, but the Women's tournament have HCA in the first 2 rounds, so it can be done.
I respect your points but I don't think seeding is "pointless" when you're playing inferior teams. Even though everything gets settled on the court and everyone starts 0-0, there's a big difference between UNC having to play FGCU and USC vs, say, Purdue and Kentucky to get to the Sweet 16. Sure, the lower seed could win, but what's the alternative? Series are impractical, and any format that virtually guarantees the best team wins calls into question why those lesser teams should even be allowed in. Upsets are part of the equation and make the tournament more exciting in my opinion.
Oregon is playing in Spokane, Washington BTW.
I respect your points but I don't think seeding is "pointless" when you're playing inferior teams. Even though everything gets settled on the court and everyone starts 0-0, there's a big difference between UNC having to play FGCU and USC vs, say, Purdue and Kentucky to get to the Sweet 16. Sure, the lower seed could win, but what's the alternative? Series are impractical, and any format that virtually guarantees the best team wins calls into question why those lesser teams should even be allowed in. Upsets are part of the equation and make the tournament more exciting in my opinion.
Oregon is playing in Spokane, Washington BTW.
4) I agree a 1 seed playing a 16 seed matters. The stats prove it. Never has a 1 seed lost. As you go down the list and get to that 8-9 matchup you start seeing them matter less. What advantage did Baylor have over yale yesterday? Or Little Rock over Purdue? They didn't have one, so that means that 5 seed was meaningless.
5) Sorry for the mess up on that Oregon statement, maybe if they win they need to go to Providence? I thought I remembered them being connected to Providence, but I could be totally mistaken.
In nearly every sport you work towards the highest seed you can be because it offers some sort of advantage. In nearly every sport it's a home court/field advantage. The NCAA gives no advantage to the higher seed in this tournament. They play close to their campus that's it. In a one game winner take all format it's an even playing field, in my opinion. It's a game of basketball, anyone can win. If that's the case then being the higher seed does not matter. IF you play the game at home then it does matter. Would Duke have lost to Mercer and Lehigh at home? Probably not, but because of the format they were offered no advantage to being a 2 seed.the advantage to seeding is that the teams deemed stronger get to play against teams deemed weaker. That in and of itself is a huge advantage that allows the vast bulk of the higher seeded teams to advance.
Tell you what, this Jordan Matthews kid looks pretty good. Is he on the draft radar?
Jaylen Brown has been unimpressive. In fact, his poor defense and ballhandling have stood out to me, as opposed to anything positive. He should probably stay in school another year, but I suspect his draft stock will be too high after workouts.
Yeah, I have no interest in drafting him with the Brooklyn pick anymore, but if we can use the Mavs pick to trade up a few spots and grab him I would be happy. He looks like all he can do is score in transition.Tell you what, this Jordan Matthews kid looks pretty good. Is he on the draft radar?
Jaylen Brown has been unimpressive. In fact, his poor defense and ballhandling have stood out to me, as opposed to anything positive. He should probably stay in school another year, but I suspect his draft stock will be too high after workouts.
Yeah, was high on Brown but this unimpressive showing might hit his draft stock. Which is good for us I think.
I really believe there is still a ton to work with there, and if he drops, he could be withing reach if we could move up using the Dallas and our pick.
California, though, man. I have them going to the Elite 8, very unimpressive perfomance.
Safe to say that Hawaii will pull the upset. Cal very awful today, Jordan Matthews and Ivan Rabb helped their draft stock a bit, while Jaylen Brown looks like could use another year in school, or be contended to be a 6-10 pick.I picked MSU to win the whole thing. I have never had my title team losing in the first round. I've been watching the Cal game, do you know why MSU is playing so poorly.
Meanwhile...
Michigan State has 13 minutes to escape what could be the biggest upset of the year. Middle Tennessee has given their best punch and their holding them off.
Safe to say that Hawaii will pull the upset. Cal very awful today, Jordan Matthews and Ivan Rabb helped their draft stock a bit, while Jaylen Brown looks like could use another year in school, or be contended to be a 6-10 pick.I picked MSU to win the whole thing. I have never had my title team losing in the first round. I've been watching the Cal game, do you know why MSU is playing so poorly.
Meanwhile...
Michigan State has 13 minutes to escape what could be the biggest upset of the year. Middle Tennessee has given their best punch and their holding them off.
I'm definitely biased but Malachai Richardson of Syracuse is gonna be a baller. Already is pretty good for the college level.
I'm definitely biased but Malachai Richardson of Syracuse is gonna be a baller. Already is pretty good for the college level.
Friends don't let friends draft Syracuse players.
Safe to say that Hawaii will pull the upset. Cal very awful today, Jordan Matthews and Ivan Rabb helped their draft stock a bit, while Jaylen Brown looks like could use another year in school, or be contended to be a 6-10 pick.
I'm definitely biased but Malachai Richardson of Syracuse is gonna be a baller. Already is pretty good for the college level.
Friends don't let friends draft Syracuse players.
A 6'6" Point Guard. I likey, even if it's a Syracuse guy.
Safe to say that Hawaii will pull the upset. Cal very awful today, Jordan Matthews and Ivan Rabb helped their draft stock a bit, while Jaylen Brown looks like could use another year in school, or be contended to be a 6-10 pick.
A GM who uses a top 10 pick on a guy like Jaylen Brown, with no discernible NBA level skill, doesn't like his job very much.
Safe to say that Hawaii will pull the upset. Cal very awful today, Jordan Matthews and Ivan Rabb helped their draft stock a bit, while Jaylen Brown looks like could use another year in school, or be contended to be a 6-10 pick.
A GM who uses a top 10 pick on a guy like Jaylen Brown, with no discernible NBA level skill, doesn't like his job very much.
Eh? He's still athletically gifted. And there are some core guys for Cal that are missing. Kid is 19 and knows how to get to the rim and be a weapon in transition. All we saw today is just telling us he needs a lot more work to be complete than people normally though.
I probably won't take him in the top 3 however, but I'd gamble on him on a top 5-10 pick. There's still a good amount of upside there.
So Cal loses & Michigan State is in trouble at the moment. Quite the game window right now.
Safe to say that Hawaii will pull the upset. Cal very awful today, Jordan Matthews and Ivan Rabb helped their draft stock a bit, while Jaylen Brown looks like could use another year in school, or be contended to be a 6-10 pick.
A GM who uses a top 10 pick on a guy like Jaylen Brown, with no discernible NBA level skill, doesn't like his job very much.
Eh? He's still athletically gifted. And there are some core guys for Cal that are missing. Kid is 19 and knows how to get to the rim and be a weapon in transition. All we saw today is just telling us he needs a lot more work to be complete than people normally though.
I probably won't take him in the top 3 however, but I'd gamble on him on a top 5-10 pick. There's still a good amount of upside there.
I'd let him go back to school with the hope of building his skills and becoming a top 5 pick, or I'd let somebody else take the risk in the top 10.
If he fell to the end of the lottery, I'd take a chance.
But there isn't a single thing he does I would feel confident in him doing at the NBA level, other than finishing an open dunk, and that's a lowwww bar. I like my top 10 picks to have a higher floor than that.
I'd pick him at about 8 right now. Right after SImmons, Ingram, Murray, Poeltl, Bender, Dunn and Hield. A case could be made for Ellenson as well. But at 8 or 9 I don't see a better option.Safe to say that Hawaii will pull the upset. Cal very awful today, Jordan Matthews and Ivan Rabb helped their draft stock a bit, while Jaylen Brown looks like could use another year in school, or be contended to be a 6-10 pick.
A GM who uses a top 10 pick on a guy like Jaylen Brown, with no discernible NBA level skill, doesn't like his job very much.
Eh? He's still athletically gifted. And there are some core guys for Cal that are missing. Kid is 19 and knows how to get to the rim and be a weapon in transition. All we saw today is just telling us he needs a lot more work to be complete than people normally though.
I probably won't take him in the top 3 however, but I'd gamble on him on a top 5-10 pick. There's still a good amount of upside there.
I'd pick him at about 8 right now. Right after SImmons, Ingram, Murray, Poeltl, Bender, Dunn and Hield. A case could be made for Ellenson as well. But at 8 or 9 I don't see a better option.Safe to say that Hawaii will pull the upset. Cal very awful today, Jordan Matthews and Ivan Rabb helped their draft stock a bit, while Jaylen Brown looks like could use another year in school, or be contended to be a 6-10 pick.
A GM who uses a top 10 pick on a guy like Jaylen Brown, with no discernible NBA level skill, doesn't like his job very much.
Eh? He's still athletically gifted. And there are some core guys for Cal that are missing. Kid is 19 and knows how to get to the rim and be a weapon in transition. All we saw today is just telling us he needs a lot more work to be complete than people normally though.
I probably won't take him in the top 3 however, but I'd gamble on him on a top 5-10 pick. There's still a good amount of upside there.
I think he'll be ready defensively long before he's ready on offense. If, as he develops he can guard 4's it will help him a lot, because at the 4 it would be a lot easier for him to drive to the hoop.
I just think the chance that Brown is another Shabazz Muhammad or Terrence Williams is high, at least if he doesn't spend more time in college learning the game.
This Darnell Harris kid looks good ... but he's 24 years old. So not that surprising.
I'd pick him at about 8 right now. Right after SImmons, Ingram, Murray, Poeltl, Bender, Dunn and Hield. A case could be made for Ellenson as well. But at 8 or 9 I don't see a better option.Safe to say that Hawaii will pull the upset. Cal very awful today, Jordan Matthews and Ivan Rabb helped their draft stock a bit, while Jaylen Brown looks like could use another year in school, or be contended to be a 6-10 pick.
A GM who uses a top 10 pick on a guy like Jaylen Brown, with no discernible NBA level skill, doesn't like his job very much.
Eh? He's still athletically gifted. And there are some core guys for Cal that are missing. Kid is 19 and knows how to get to the rim and be a weapon in transition. All we saw today is just telling us he needs a lot more work to be complete than people normally though.
I probably won't take him in the top 3 however, but I'd gamble on him on a top 5-10 pick. There's still a good amount of upside there.
I think he'll be ready defensively long before he's ready on offense. If, as he develops he can guard 4's it will help him a lot, because at the 4 it would be a lot easier for him to drive to the hoop.
Do you think Brown would get a chance to learn the game at the NBA level on this Celts team? As things stand now, he'd probably spend his first two years in the D-League like James Young.
I think he can learn a lot in the practices and working with the coaches in the offseason. I also think development can happen in the d-league where you can work out with coaches everyday. Working with Crowder in training camp could really benefit him.I'd pick him at about 8 right now. Right after SImmons, Ingram, Murray, Poeltl, Bender, Dunn and Hield. A case could be made for Ellenson as well. But at 8 or 9 I don't see a better option.Safe to say that Hawaii will pull the upset. Cal very awful today, Jordan Matthews and Ivan Rabb helped their draft stock a bit, while Jaylen Brown looks like could use another year in school, or be contended to be a 6-10 pick.
A GM who uses a top 10 pick on a guy like Jaylen Brown, with no discernible NBA level skill, doesn't like his job very much.
Eh? He's still athletically gifted. And there are some core guys for Cal that are missing. Kid is 19 and knows how to get to the rim and be a weapon in transition. All we saw today is just telling us he needs a lot more work to be complete than people normally though.
I probably won't take him in the top 3 however, but I'd gamble on him on a top 5-10 pick. There's still a good amount of upside there.
I think he'll be ready defensively long before he's ready on offense. If, as he develops he can guard 4's it will help him a lot, because at the 4 it would be a lot easier for him to drive to the hoop.
Do you think Brown would get a chance to learn the game at the NBA level on this Celts team? As things stand now, he'd probably spend his first two years in the D-League like James Young.
The think about Brown is that his intangibles are also a red flag so I'd pass. Can't play + no effort no please
That's an eye opening upset. Wow.
why wasn't Deyonta Davis playing, their interior defense was awful
why wasn't Deyonta Davis playing, their interior defense was awful
Because he's do raw and inexperienced unfortunately.
But right now he just busted a #2 seed and made those "teenagers" (Their 3 best players, Costello, Valentine and Forbes, are all 22) cry. I take it you're a Spartans fan?The think about Brown is that his intangibles are also a red flag so I'd pass. Can't play + no effort no please
Yeah.
I'm all for drafting guys who can play the 3, but I think there'll be better options for that in the middle of the 1st round. You have to be able to shoot and defend to be a 3-and-D guy, and there's no telling if Brown will be able to do either.
This Michigan State game is funny.
A team of teenagers getting beaten up by a team featuring fully grown men. Darnell Harris is 24 years old. About the same age as half of the Celtics roster. He'll be selling cars or adjusting insurance claims a couple years from now.
why wasn't Deyonta Davis playing, their interior defense was awful
Because he's do raw and inexperienced unfortunately.
I don't know, it seemed like an obvious change, since they couldn't stop those high energy bigs from tennessee.
Anyways, just positive things from Valentine, I'm taking him with the Mavs pick
But right now he just busted a #2 seed and made those "teenagers" (Their 3 best players, Costello, Valentine and Forbes, are all 22) cry. I take it you're a Spartans fan?The think about Brown is that his intangibles are also a red flag so I'd pass. Can't play + no effort no please
Yeah.
I'm all for drafting guys who can play the 3, but I think there'll be better options for that in the middle of the 1st round. You have to be able to shoot and defend to be a 3-and-D guy, and there's no telling if Brown will be able to do either.
This Michigan State game is funny.
A team of teenagers getting beaten up by a team featuring fully grown men. Darnell Harris is 24 years old. About the same age as half of the Celtics roster. He'll be selling cars or adjusting insurance claims a couple years from now.
But right now he just busted a #2 seed and made those "teenagers" (Their 3 best players, Costello, Valentine and Forbes, are all 22) cry. I take it you're a Spartans fan?The think about Brown is that his intangibles are also a red flag so I'd pass. Can't play + no effort no please
Yeah.
I'm all for drafting guys who can play the 3, but I think there'll be better options for that in the middle of the 1st round. You have to be able to shoot and defend to be a 3-and-D guy, and there's no telling if Brown will be able to do either.
This Michigan State game is funny.
A team of teenagers getting beaten up by a team featuring fully grown men. Darnell Harris is 24 years old. About the same age as half of the Celtics roster. He'll be selling cars or adjusting insurance claims a couple years from now.
I just think it's funny. NCAA basketball is a big mess, but for two weeks every year we pretend its exciting and the results of this tourney mean something.
Ok? The results of every sports game don't actually mean anything, and you have posted 12144 times pretending the NBA means something.But right now he just busted a #2 seed and made those "teenagers" (Their 3 best players, Costello, Valentine and Forbes, are all 22) cry. I take it you're a Spartans fan?The think about Brown is that his intangibles are also a red flag so I'd pass. Can't play + no effort no please
Yeah.
I'm all for drafting guys who can play the 3, but I think there'll be better options for that in the middle of the 1st round. You have to be able to shoot and defend to be a 3-and-D guy, and there's no telling if Brown will be able to do either.
This Michigan State game is funny.
A team of teenagers getting beaten up by a team featuring fully grown men. Darnell Harris is 24 years old. About the same age as half of the Celtics roster. He'll be selling cars or adjusting insurance claims a couple years from now.
I just think it's funny. NCAA basketball is a big mess, but for two weeks every year we pretend its exciting and the results of this tourney mean something.
I'm definitely biased but Malachai Richardson of Syracuse is gonna be a baller. Already is pretty good for the college level.
Friends don't let friends draft Syracuse players.
Let them waste somebody else's money learning how to play NBA ball their first 4-5 years in the league.
Ok? The results of every sports game don't actually mean anything, and you have posted 12144 times pretending the NBA means something.
But right now he just busted a #2 seed and made those "teenagers" (Their 3 best players, Costello, Valentine and Forbes, are all 22) cry. I take it you're a Spartans fan?The think about Brown is that his intangibles are also a red flag so I'd pass. Can't play + no effort no please
Yeah.
I'm all for drafting guys who can play the 3, but I think there'll be better options for that in the middle of the 1st round. You have to be able to shoot and defend to be a 3-and-D guy, and there's no telling if Brown will be able to do either.
This Michigan State game is funny.
A team of teenagers getting beaten up by a team featuring fully grown men. Darnell Harris is 24 years old. About the same age as half of the Celtics roster. He'll be selling cars or adjusting insurance claims a couple years from now.
I just think it's funny. NCAA basketball is a big mess, but for two weeks every year we pretend its exciting and the results of this tourney mean something.
Yeah, its called being a sports fan.
Just because you find the NBA more interesting doesn't mean you should be belittling NCAA fans. Saying "we pretend its exciting and that the results mean anything" might be true for you, so say I don't find it exciting and then stop watching the games and posting on a thread titled 2016 NCAA Tournament.
Ok? The results of every sports game don't actually mean anything, and you have posted 12144 times pretending the NBA means something.
Yeah, that's the thing, I think the NBA is much more interesting and meaningful than NCAA basketball. I really don't care about the NCAA as more than a passing amusement except for scouting potential NBA prospects.
Shocker, I hold that opinion as a frequent poster on an NBA fan forum.
How does Jaylen Brown only end up with 4 points in his last game? Cs should stay clear. Take Buddy if we end up with the 4th pick.
Payton II looked good. Cs take him with the 2nd rounder Philly pick.
How does Jaylen Brown only end up with 4 points in his last game? Cs should stay clear. Take Buddy if we end up with the 4th pick.
Payton II looked good. Cs take him with the 2nd rounder Philly pick.
Lol. I'd love buddy or Murray. But brown seems like ainge's kinda guy. I wouldn't be surprised if he took him 2nd over all. Heck, Danny wanted Winslow 4th last year!
But right now he just busted a #2 seed and made those "teenagers" (Their 3 best players, Costello, Valentine and Forbes, are all 22) cry. I take it you're a Spartans fan?The think about Brown is that his intangibles are also a red flag so I'd pass. Can't play + no effort no please
Yeah.
I'm all for drafting guys who can play the 3, but I think there'll be better options for that in the middle of the 1st round. You have to be able to shoot and defend to be a 3-and-D guy, and there's no telling if Brown will be able to do either.
This Michigan State game is funny.
A team of teenagers getting beaten up by a team featuring fully grown men. Darnell Harris is 24 years old. About the same age as half of the Celtics roster. He'll be selling cars or adjusting insurance claims a couple years from now.
I just think it's funny. NCAA basketball is a big mess, but for two weeks every year we pretend its exciting and the results of this tourney mean something.
Yeah, its called being a sports fan.
I'm a fan of lots of sports, but I find NCAA basketball to be mostly chaotic and ugly, and I think March Madness is more about rampant betting and providing casual fans with the spectacle of inevitable upsets than anything else.
I'm a fan of basketball, and a lot of what ends up on the TV this time of March is on par with a Suns - Sixers match.
The allure of the NCAAs has to do with the breadth of it's reach. Every area of the country is represented and every conference represented....and every teams fans think that they have a chance at some glory, be it by defeating a much higher ranked team, or making the Sweet Sixteen, the Elite Eight, the Final Four or becoming national champs.
Yale's win yesterday and MTSU's win over MSU today were great theater. And granted, especially in the first round, there are probably 4-5 clunkers for every one of those, but those closely contested upsets make it all worth it to me.
College basketball, like college football has an electricity about it because of the age, passion and closeness that the fans (especially the student body and alums, like Tommy at The Cross) share.
Is the talent level better than the Suns/Sixers? No. But the buzz and excitement for many is far superior.
The allure of the NCAAs has to do with the breadth of it's reach. Every area of the country is represented and every conference represented....and every teams fans think that they have a chance at some glory, be it by defeating a much higher ranked team, or making the Sweet Sixteen, the Elite Eight, the Final Four or becoming national champs.
Yale's win yesterday and MTSU's win over MSU today were great theater. And granted, especially in the first round, there are probably 4-5 clunkers for every one of those, but those closely contested upsets make it all worth it to me.
College basketball, like college football has an electricity about it because of the age, passion and closeness that the fans (especially the student body and alums, like Tommy at The Cross) share.
Is the talent level better than the Suns/Sixers? No. But the buzz and excitement for many is far superior.
I understand all of that, but I don't feel a particular affinity with any of the teams that tends to make it into the tournament. I'm too cynical about the whole NCAA enterprise to get caught up in rooting for the "cindarella" teams I've never heard of.
I'm just a fan of basketball. Great team basketball, and great individual talents. Neither tends to be on display very often in the tournament.
Maybe if my alma mater had a more competitive program .... but nope. That's not in the cards. Doesn't appear to be for a long time.
man, the #5 and 6 seeds are being pounded this year. never seen so many first round upsets that i can recall.
and best of all MSU was bumped in the first round. ha, ha...so many folks had them winning it all.
by the way, i loath MSU so i am one happy camper right now. ;D
my guess the number of perfect pools is close to zero after only one round. and the upsets are so widespread that virtually EVERYONE'S pool is getting pounded. so it may even things out a bit.man, the #5 and 6 seeds are being pounded this year. never seen so many first round upsets that i can recall.
and best of all MSU was bumped in the first round. ha, ha...so many folks had them winning it all.
by the way, i loath MSU so i am one happy camper right now. ;D
Doh, I'm one of them. And sad thing I'm in 3 pools and I didn't hedge my bets against MSU. Thank god for a sweet 16 tourny that starts next week or I'd be totally done.
Some of the potential 1st round draftees who are on today:good info. TP
Ingram, Grayson Allen 2:40
Jamaal Murray, Skal, Ullis 5:15
Malcolm Brogdon 7:10
Jakob Poeltl vs Sabonis 8:40
Dunn, Bryce Johnson 9:40
Ingram and Allen are putting on a show against Yale.
Tar Heels still alive, looking good. Dunn was in foul trouble for most of the night. Showed some flashes, walks around like D Wade, but left something to be desired. Bentil had a really nice game, though - seems he can stretch the floor pretty well for his size.
Didn't watch Utah but feel vindicated for having referred to Poeltl as "Timofey Mozgov" in another thread recently. All set with that selection at #4-5... would rather reach on Jamal Murray (or even Dunn).
id take him at 3Tar Heels still alive, looking good. Dunn was in foul trouble for most of the night. Showed some flashes, walks around like D Wade, but left something to be desired. Bentil had a really nice game, though - seems he can stretch the floor pretty well for his size.
Didn't watch Utah but feel vindicated for having referred to Poeltl as "Timofey Mozgov" in another thread recently. All set with that selection at #4-5... would rather reach on Jamal Murray (or even Dunn).
What about Hield? Would you take him at 4 or 5?
Tar Heels still alive, looking good. Dunn was in foul trouble for most of the night. Showed some flashes, walks around like D Wade, but left something to be desired. Bentil had a really nice game, though - seems he can stretch the floor pretty well for his size.
Didn't watch Utah but feel vindicated for having referred to Poeltl as "Timofey Mozgov" in another thread recently. All set with that selection at #4-5... would rather reach on Jamal Murray (or even Dunn).
What about Hield? Would you take him at 4 or 5?
Tar Heels still alive, looking good. Dunn was in foul trouble for most of the night. Showed some flashes, walks around like D Wade, but left something to be desired. Bentil had a really nice game, though - seems he can stretch the floor pretty well for his size.
Didn't watch Utah but feel vindicated for having referred to Poeltl as "Timofey Mozgov" in another thread recently. All set with that selection at #4-5... would rather reach on Jamal Murray (or even Dunn).
how is Gonzaga beating anyone an upset anymore?
how is Gonzaga beating anyone an upset anymore?
Yup....that talk is from the 70's .
Some potential draftees playing today:
12:10 Jarrod Uthoff
2:40. Demetrius Jackson
5:15. Buddy Hield
7:10. Diamond Stone, Melo Trimble, Layman, Carter
8:40. Nigel Hayes
9:40. Deandre Bembry
Some potential draftees playing today:
12:10 Jarrod Uthoff
2:40. Demetrius Jackson
5:15. Buddy Hield
7:10. Diamond Stone, Melo Trimble, Layman, Carter
8:40. Nigel Hayes
9:40. Deandre Bembry
Amazing how few potential first round picks are left in the tournament. By my count (using Draft Express's top 30), only Ingram, Hield, D. Jackson, Stone, Sabonis, Allen and Johnson. 7 of the top 30 prospects.
I'm all a board on the Hield bandwagon and there's still room! Join me!
What do people think of Jamal Murray of Kentucky? I really like his ability to read defenses, his shooting/driving game, and his point guard skills as a 2.
(Sorry if he was already mentioned, I didn't read the whole thread)
I'm all a board on the Hield bandwagon and there's still room! Join me!
What do people think of Jamal Murray of Kentucky? I really like his ability to read defenses, his shooting/driving game, and his point guard skills as a 2.
(Sorry if he was already mentioned, I didn't read the whole thread)
Phone messed up the above post... But Hield and Murray are my top two choices outside of the top 2. We need guys with the potential to be elite scorers (if we don't trade the pick)
finally get to see Buddy play in a live game.
Beginning of the 1st -finally get to see Buddy play in a live game.
Maybe after the game can you perhaps give us a small summary, let us know how he was? I, for one, am super busy today and can't watch the game
Beginning of the 1st -finally get to see Buddy play in a live game.
Maybe after the game can you perhaps give us a small summary, let us know how he was? I, for one, am super busy today and can't watch the game
so far not overly ball dominant, picks his spots. Playing good defense (fights over screens), altered a shot or two. Good court vision. Seems to stand around though, watching the plays develop, and not moving without the ball too much. Has missed all 3 shots though (might be the main focus of the defense to pressure him)
Middle -
Looking for the ball more, has a few baskets, and a few missed heat check 3s. Seems a step slow on defense. Not the most athletic guy out there but seems to work with what he has. Paul Pierce type of guy if he was a guard.
in the second half he was unstoppable. Dominated the game.Beginning of the 1st -finally get to see Buddy play in a live game.
Maybe after the game can you perhaps give us a small summary, let us know how he was? I, for one, am super busy today and can't watch the game
so far not overly ball dominant, picks his spots. Playing good defense (fights over screens), altered a shot or two. Good court vision. Seems to stand around though, watching the plays develop, and not moving without the ball too much. Has missed all 3 shots though (might be the main focus of the defense to pressure him)
Middle -
Looking for the ball more, has a few baskets, and a few missed heat check 3s. Seems a step slow on defense. Not the most athletic guy out there but seems to work with what he has. Paul Pierce type of guy if he was a guard.
Solid job. Thanks. TP
in the second half he was unstoppable. Dominated the game.Beginning of the 1st -finally get to see Buddy play in a live game.
Maybe after the game can you perhaps give us a small summary, let us know how he was? I, for one, am super busy today and can't watch the game
so far not overly ball dominant, picks his spots. Playing good defense (fights over screens), altered a shot or two. Good court vision. Seems to stand around though, watching the plays develop, and not moving without the ball too much. Has missed all 3 shots though (might be the main focus of the defense to pressure him)
Middle -
Looking for the ball more, has a few baskets, and a few missed heat check 3s. Seems a step slow on defense. Not the most athletic guy out there but seems to work with what he has. Paul Pierce type of guy if he was a guard.
Solid job. Thanks. TP
Phone messed up the above post... But Hield and Murray are my top two choices outside of the top 2. We need guys with the potential to be elite scorers (if we don't trade the pick)
Yep. Originally I wanted Brown but he's not exactly the scorer we need. And the last thing I want is another "scrappy, gritty defender" type of player. We need offensive talent and Murray/Hield are just that.
The A&M - Northern Iowa game was amazing. Aggies were down 12 with under 50 seconds in regulation. They somehow came back to force overtime. But that wasn't enough, so they forced double overtime on a late 3. Epic game, although I feel bad for the Northern Iowa kids.
The A&M - Northern Iowa game was amazing. Aggies were down 12 with under 50 seconds in regulation. They somehow came back to force overtime. But that wasn't enough, so they forced double overtime on a late 3. Epic game, although I feel bad for the Northern Iowa kids.
The A&M - Northern Iowa game was amazing. Aggies were down 12 with under 50 seconds in regulation. They somehow came back to force overtime. But that wasn't enough, so they forced double overtime on a late 3. Epic game, although I feel bad for the Northern Iowa kids.
insane game!!!
That, along with ND's tip-in win with 1.5 on the clock and Koenig's three at the buzzer to cap a crazy Wisconsin comeback over Xavier, and I can't understand how some basketball fans can't get excited about the NCAAs.
i also have a feeling that the Oregon/St. Joe's game will be closer than many thought.
How about this Gonzaga player ...Wilcsher .....? Boy seems to have a nice KO stroke from three .....looks very confident offensive player.....?
am watching hield right now. he is great shooter, fearless and confident.
his defense seems fine, but his ball handling is so-so.
but he has made a number of silly decisions with the ball. driving into 3 defenders, getting stuck under the basket.
he tries hard, i just have to wonder whether this is typical of his decision making.
How about this Gonzaga player ...Wilcsher .....? Boy seems to have a nice KO stroke from three .....looks very confident offensive player.....?
TP, SHAQ.....thinking the same thing.....liked him so much was thinking of starting a thread on him.
We should have him in for a workout. He's like #85 on Draftexpress, but with a great story.
http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Kyle-Wiltjer-5959/
Transfer from KY. Redshirted to work on his body like KO did. Not very athletic and will be 24 by time season starts, but man can he score !!!
Plays 34 minutes a game, averages over 20 pts and shoots 3s at better than 40% and an excellent FT shooter.
Hield should be the #3 pick in this draft.Saw a graphic that said 45% or so of his makes are from 3. Hope he has other facets as well. So far he has all threes and a putback. Want to see some drives and some separation from defenders, not just threes.
He's a flat out sensational scorer.
his ball handling is not particularly good either. but he can shoot, no doubt.Hield should be the #3 pick in this draft.Saw a graphic that said 45% or so of his makes are from 3. Hope he has other facets as well. So far he has all threes and a putback. Want to see some drives and some separation from defenders, not just threes.
He's a flat out sensational scorer.
Hield should be the #3 pick in this draft.
He's a flat out sensational scorer.
Hield should be the #3 pick in this draft.Saw a graphic that said 45% or so of his makes are from 3. Hope he has other facets as well. So far he has all threes and a putback. Want to see some drives and some separation from defenders, not just threes.
He's a flat out sensational scorer.
maybe, but not in this game. i must be missing it all. i see uneven passing, mediocre ball handling, and some bad decisions. yes, yes, yes he can shoot like crazy. and his step back jump shot will work well in the nba.Hield should be the #3 pick in this draft.
He's a flat out sensational scorer.
I agree, and he does the little things too. Great consolation prize after Ingram and Simmons.
maybe, but not in this game. i must be missing it all. i see uneven passing, mediocre ball handling, and some bad decisions. yes, yes, yes he can shoot like crazy. and his step back jump shot will work well in the nba.Hield should be the #3 pick in this draft.
He's a flat out sensational scorer.
I agree, and he does the little things too. Great consolation prize after Ingram and Simmons.
it is the rest of his game that i find to be pedestrian.
Hield should be the #3 pick in this draft.Saw a graphic that said 45% or so of his makes are from 3. Hope he has other facets as well. So far he has all threes and a putback. Want to see some drives and some separation from defenders, not just threes.
He's a flat out sensational scorer.
you really have something against threes in today's NBA?
Hield should be the #3 pick in this draft.Saw a graphic that said 45% or so of his makes are from 3. Hope he has other facets as well. So far he has all threes and a putback. Want to see some drives and some separation from defenders, not just threes.
He's a flat out sensational scorer.
you really have something against threes in today's NBA?
Hield should be the #3 pick in this draft.Saw a graphic that said 45% or so of his makes are from 3. Hope he has other facets as well. So far he has all threes and a putback. Want to see some drives and some separation from defenders, not just threes.
He's a flat out sensational scorer.
you really have something against threes in today's NBA?
No clue how you got that from my post. I love the three ball. I just said a big portion of his game is the three ball. If that shot isn't falling, I'd like to know that he has other avenues to score.
Heck, everyone here is angry bc smart's FGA are like 35% threes. I'm just saying it's something to monitor with buddy as well.
if, god forbid, the celtics pick at #6, i would be completely on board with hield. his shot will play well with CBS coaching.maybe, but not in this game. i must be missing it all. i see uneven passing, mediocre ball handling, and some bad decisions. yes, yes, yes he can shoot like crazy. and his step back jump shot will work well in the nba.Hield should be the #3 pick in this draft.
He's a flat out sensational scorer.
I agree, and he does the little things too. Great consolation prize after Ingram and Simmons.
it is the rest of his game that i find to be pedestrian.
He is a bit turnover prone (almost 3 per game), but a lot of that has to do with the double and sometimes triple-teams that he faces. He rebounds well for his position (almost 6 per game) and moves without the ball well, considering he plays almost 35 per game.
if, god forbid, the celtics pick at #6, i would be completely on board with hield. his shot will play well with CBS coaching.maybe, but not in this game. i must be missing it all. i see uneven passing, mediocre ball handling, and some bad decisions. yes, yes, yes he can shoot like crazy. and his step back jump shot will work well in the nba.Hield should be the #3 pick in this draft.
He's a flat out sensational scorer.
I agree, and he does the little things too. Great consolation prize after Ingram and Simmons.
it is the rest of his game that i find to be pedestrian.
He is a bit turnover prone (almost 3 per game), but a lot of that has to do with the double and sometimes triple-teams that he faces. He rebounds well for his position (almost 6 per game) and moves without the ball well, considering he plays almost 35 per game.
ha, ha, ha...i love the optimism. a tp for you my fine friend. ;Dif, god forbid, the celtics pick at #6, i would be completely on board with hield. his shot will play well with CBS coaching.maybe, but not in this game. i must be missing it all. i see uneven passing, mediocre ball handling, and some bad decisions. yes, yes, yes he can shoot like crazy. and his step back jump shot will work well in the nba.Hield should be the #3 pick in this draft.
He's a flat out sensational scorer.
I agree, and he does the little things too. Great consolation prize after Ingram and Simmons.
it is the rest of his game that i find to be pedestrian.
He is a bit turnover prone (almost 3 per game), but a lot of that has to do with the double and sometimes triple-teams that he faces. He rebounds well for his position (almost 6 per game) and moves without the ball well, considering he plays almost 35 per game.
Nets beating the Pacers. That is a possibility. That's a moot issue, though as we are winning the lottery this year. ;)
Hield should be the #3 pick in this draft.
He's a flat out sensational scorer.
I'm definitely biased but Malachi Richardson of Syracuse is gonna be a baller. Already is pretty good for the college level.
M A L A C H A I .................... look it up !!!!holy moley!!! THREE of the #1 seeds have played so far, and ALL THREE have lost. i dont ever recall that happening this way before. :o
M A L A C H A I .................... look it up !!!!holy moley!!! THREE of the #1 seeds have played so far, and ALL THREE have lost. i dont ever recall that happening this way before. :o
i bet a whole bunch of people are tearing up their pool sheets now.
ha, ha...who would have predicted this? i feel sorry for that writer.M A L A C H A I .................... look it up !!!!holy moley!!! THREE of the #1 seeds have played so far, and ALL THREE have lost. i dont ever recall that happening this way before. :o
i bet a whole bunch of people are tearing up their pool sheets now.
its funny because Yahoo or MSN just had a story that was titled 'why the final four will be made up of all number 1 seeds'
Will Syracuse's Richardson be in the draft? The kid has grit
Villanova looks like a scary team. Bounced somewhat early in year's past but must consider that one was to eventual national champs (UK), too. Hope Heels don't run into them along the way.
Oh my goodness ... what a shot!