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Beyond the Association => Other Basketball => Topic started by: Eja117 on August 09, 2015, 09:36:33 PM
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I think Nerlens Noel would have a good game as would Jeremi Grant.
I don't know enough about the WNBA.
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If you strongly disagree a WNBA all star team could beat the 76ers....could they have beaten Duke?
How about Oak Hill Academy?
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Absolutely not.
I think it depends on the Duke team, but the WNBA team probably beats them. Oak hill gets stomped. Even the worst professional NBA player is still made up of some of the 450 best basketball players on the planet, something that's often forgotten since they only play each other -- something similar is true of the WNBA. The college and high school players don't stand a chance, ever.
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Absolutely not.
I think it depends on the Duke team, but the WNBA team probably beats them. Oak hill gets stomped. Even the worst professional NBA player is still made up of some of the 450 best basketball players on the planet, something that's often forgotten since they only play each other -- something similar is true of the WNBA. The college and high school players don't stand a chance, ever.
I guess to be fair part of the reason the 76ers looked so bad was that they were being coached to lose for draft position. If the game doesn't count and they are allowed to win they probably would.
So for the WNBA team to have any chance they have to be filling in for an NBA team that got sick and the game counts. Then they'd have a much better chance.
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I wonder if the WNBA team could beat sorta a middle of the road half way decent Euro team or a Chinese League team or Japanese league team. Something kinda like that.
I don't think they could typically beat a decent NBDL team.
Somebody needs to set this up.
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Without question. A WNBA team would wipe the floor with the 76ers, mainly because the WNBA players are smart and utilize this strange thing called 'fundamentals,' lol ;D. *facepalm* I can't even watch the Uconn women anymore for the same reason - you see more real basketball in 2 minutes of one of their games than you do during an entire NBA season. Seriously. It's incredibly frustrating to watch. That's when there were rumors of Ainge hiring a college coach before they signed Stevens, I was praying that he'd somehow snagged Geno away from Storrs, lol ;D. He'd coach circles around any, well, coach, in the league today, imo.
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Without question. A WNBA team would wipe the floor with the 76ers, mainly because the WNBA players are smart and utilize this strange thing called 'fundamentals,' lol ;D. *facepalm* I can't even watch the Uconn women anymore for the same reason - you see more real basketball in 2 minutes of one of their games than you do during an entire NBA season. Seriously. It's incredibly frustrating to watch. That's when there were rumors of Ainge hiring a college coach before they signed Stevens, I was praying that he'd somehow snagged Geno away from Storrs, lol ;D. He'd coach circles around any, well, coach, in the league today, imo.
This is sarcasm, right? That's what the smileys mean?
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Without question. A WNBA team would wipe the floor with the 76ers, mainly because the WNBA players are smart and utilize this strange thing called 'fundamentals,' lol ;D. *facepalm* I can't even watch the Uconn women anymore for the same reason - you see more real basketball in 2 minutes of one of their games than you do during an entire NBA season. Seriously. It's incredibly frustrating to watch. That's when there were rumors of Ainge hiring a college coach before they signed Stevens, I was praying that he'd somehow snagged Geno away from Storrs, lol ;D. He'd coach circles around any, well, coach, in the league today, imo.
This is sarcasm, right? That's what the smileys mean?
Has to be sarcasm. I would really like to see the 76ers or any team play the best all star team in the WNBA, could be a shut out. Someone will say I'm wrong but I believe I am not and I am not taking anything away from the ladies.....they do have skill but they are not men and never went through male puberty.
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The WNBA all stars couldn't beat a small junior college in the middle of nowhere's team.
I had this debate many times since Brittney Griner was at Baylor and I am a Baylor alumni. She dominated the NCAA and is pretty dominant in the WNBA. She towers over everyone else in the WNBA and she is shorter than Jonas Jerebko and as thin as a rail. She also has a vert about like mine which is pathetic. Every decent juco team is running out 6'9" full grown men. These are guys who are spiking down dunks while she just barely gets it over the rim. It isn't even close.
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without a doubt in my mind.
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Something I learned about women's basketball recently. All the best D1 programs play against male practice teams. Teams like UConn, Tenseness, Duke, etc. They're playing against guys who in most cases aren't good enough to even play college basketball at any level (maybe D3 though). These are guys who were most likely good players at low level local high schools, but not good enough to play college.
They have to put rules in for the male practice team players, no dunking, no alley oops, no blocking shots, because they're trying to simulate women's competition. Otherwise those practice teams would dominate every scrimmage.
Think about it this way. What percentage of 76ers can dunk a basketball? Probably every single one of them. At worst, does any team in the league ever have more than one or two guys that can't dunk? Now think about the greatest WNBA team that could ever be assembled? How many of them can dunk a basketball? As of at least a a few years ago, only 3 players had ever dunked in a WNBA game, and only Britney Griner has done it more than twice. To me, that just shows how much more physically dominate men are than women. Not that women's basketball can't be enjoyed, they just can't match up against men.
Similarly in tennis, back in '98 Venus and Serena Williams challeneged any man ranked 200 or below. So Karsten Braasch (ranked #203) played them one afternoon and killed them 6-1 and 6-2. Braasch said afterwards, "500 and above, no chance." He added that he had played like someone ranked 600th in order to keep the game "fun."
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The WNBA all stars couldn't beat a small junior college in the middle of nowhere's team.
I had this debate many times since Brittney Griner was at Baylor and I am a Baylor alumni. She dominated the NCAA and is pretty dominant in the WNBA. She towers over everyone else in the WNBA and she is shorter than Jonas Jerebko and as thin as a rail. She also has a vert about like mine which is pathetic. Every decent juco team is running out 6'9" full grown men. These are guys who are spiking down dunks while she just barely gets it over the rim. It isn't even close.
There are 100 high school teams in every state that could beat a WNBA Allstar team. People just don't understand the physical gulf between men and women and I don't understand why. When I was inhigh school we had an annual tradition that the girls varsity team would scrimmage the boys freshman team. My freshman year the girls were ranked in the top 5 in the state. We (the freshman boys) won 2 games all year. We were embarrassingly bad. We beat them by over 60 points and that was with the coaches officiating in a way that made it a joke (giving the boys 3 seconds to get the ball in bounds, 2 seconds in the lane, etc. There is a massive difference between men and women that will never be overcome with any amount of training. There is nothing wrong with saying that.
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To try to shed some light on the topic, see the attached link. http://forums.bigsoccer.com/threads/uswnt-vs-u-17-usmnt.1939180/
A few years ago the women's national soccer team played against the U-17 boys team (that's under 17 or 16 and under) and lost 8-2. They have played a few times over the years to give the women practice against stronger, faster competition. The boys always win.
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A) I don't think eja is being serious, B) I don't think anyone is seriously saying the WNBA teams would win?
I just can't reconcile my dislike of Duke.
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I have been a WNBA fan since day 1 and love the league. They wouldn't stand a chance. They just don't have the athletic ability to hang with guys. Skills? Yes. But in basketball you can just out athletic people.
BTW, at least some of the WNBA teams, like my beloved Mercury, practice against men all the time. I don't know if they have special rules (I don't know how good the guys are and if they would need them).
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With some of the questionable talent evaluation and strategy that is put forth on this board, I'm not surprised a decent percent of the people here this a WNBA team could beat an NBA team.
A better question would be could a team made up of celticsblog posters beat a WNBA team if given enough time to practice?
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absolutely not, I'm not sexist or anything, but I think a man's power and strength alone can get them a lot of points. With Nerlen Noel's height and strength, all he gotta do is post all day. Not to mention athleticism, I just do not think any WNBA team can match up with a 76er team when it comes to speed, power, and strength
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Absolutely not. It's a different game
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With some of the questionable talent evaluation and strategy that is put forth on this board, I'm not surprised a decent percent of the people here this a WNBA team could beat an NBA team.
A better question would be could a team made up of celticsblog posters beat a WNBA team if given enough time to practice?
Fantastic. I'm in if it happens..
And why can't it? We have plenty of business professionals, a host of lawyers, etc. Pretty sure we could get the backing, handle the legal issues, and put together a respectable 8...
Try outs in September, coordinated by rollie mass, and a potential Xmas day showdown on Spike TV? Easy game.
Let's break out the knee pads, Icy Hot, and double pump fakes, fellas.
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no chance.
I'm pretty sure a Men's high school championship team would destroy a WNBA all-star team.
Take the top 10 WNBA players in the world and put them up against Oak Hill or something... Oak Hill would annihilate them. Just too much size, strength, speed and athleticism.
However, that said... if Brad Stevens is coaching the WNBA team, I think they could win 40 games and make the NBA playoffs in the Eastern Conference.
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Also, you guys realize that there is no rule that says a women can not play in the NBA. If the WNBA allstar team could even come close to beating the 76ers wouldn't some of those girls get NBA contracts? Think about it.
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This type of debate happens every time Alabama Football or Kentucky bball or some other powerhouse college programs put together a really good squad.
Bottom line... The Sixers don't have an NBA caliber PG on their roster yet two of the guys(Canaan and Jackson) scored nearly 20 PPG in college at good efficiency. That should tell you everything you need to know about the bloodbath that a game between a college/women's team and pro men would look like.
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Also, you guys realize that there is no rule that says a women can not play in the NBA. If the WNBA allstar team could even come close to beating the 76ers wouldn't some of those girls get NBA contracts? Think about it.
I guess Maya Moore is about the same size as Isaiah Thomas. I wonder what would happen if they played 1-on-1...
But full game of WNBA players vs Oak Hill wouldn't go very well. WNBA Centers are like 6'4. Oak Hill's starting lineup contains a 7 footer, 6'10 player, 6'7 player and two 6'6 players. Good luck.
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Think of it this way: the best WNBA player isn't as good as the worst NBA player. No way is a game even close.
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The Sixers have never even had the worst record in the league since they've started tanking, yet people still keep posing these strange hypotheticals specifically about that team.
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With some of the questionable talent evaluation and strategy that is put forth on this board, I'm not surprised a decent percent of the people here this a WNBA team could beat an NBA team.
A better question would be could a team made up of celticsblog posters beat a WNBA team if given enough time to practice?
I think we'd get crushed
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All true statements but intelligence and effort matters too and I haven't seen the 76ers play like that since the days of Allen Iverson.
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Think of it this way: the best WNBA player isn't as good as the worst NBA player. No way is a game even close.
I agree.
If the NBA average players ....like Jeff Green or Amir .....are playing for keeps......they women would dang lucky to get off any shot . Every shot would be blocked , passes stolen , Most all stopped in their tracks in the paint . These long guys can just reach out and take the ball out of weak hands . Like candy from kids.
Not sure they could even beat any bad D League team either ever.
Women would stomp the Celtics bloggers .....easy
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Wnba allstar team might have a shot against the best high school men's team, not sure though
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correct me if I'm wrong but this thread is really about the relative futility of the 76ers, right?
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Depends, is anyone here over 6'6"? Anyone play college ball?
The sad truth is that girls can not do anything boys can do despite what your teachers told you.
On another note, could a man have a sex change operation and play in the WNBA? i know it works for free drinks on ladies night, but in the WNBA?
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Depends, is anyone here over 6'6"? Anyone play college ball?
The sad truth is that girls can not do anything boys can do despite what your teachers told you.
On another note, could a man have a sex change operation and play in the WNBA? i know it works for free drinks on ladies night, but in the WNBA?
Before you do anything rash, just know that the WNBA doesn't pay that well. The minimum salary is only about $35K. The average is about $75K. Not worth what you are suggesting. ;D
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correct me if I'm wrong but this thread is really about the relative futility of the 76ers, right?
Ya I think you are wrong. I think it's about the futility of the sixers as well as the relative skill level of wnba players
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Depends, is anyone here over 6'6"? Anyone play college ball?
The sad truth is that girls can not do anything boys can do despite what your teachers told you.
On another note, could a man have a sex change operation and play in the WNBA? i know it works for free drinks on ladies night, but in the WNBA?
A man who had a sex change played women's tennis, back in the 70s or 80s. It would be hard to disallow.
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correct me if I'm wrong but this thread is really about the relative futility of the 76ers, right?
Ya I think you are wrong. I think it's about the futility of the sixers as well as the relative skill level of wnba players
Right -- it's the "you play ball like a girl" of CB threads, aimed at the 76ers.
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I picked the 76ers because last year they had very little NBA talent. I know the Wolves finished worse, but I just could not see a WNBA team beating up on Wiggins or even Adrian Payne and Anthony Bennet.
I figured with the 76ers at least Nerlens is really young and skinny.
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Depends, is anyone here over 6'6"? Anyone play college ball?
The sad truth is that girls can not do anything boys can do despite what your teachers told you.
On another note, could a man have a sex change operation and play in the WNBA? i know it works for free drinks on ladies night, but in the WNBA?
Fallon Fox is doing it in professional mma and trying to get into the UFC, though she's causing quite a bit of controversy doing it. There's also this ;D:
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/7d/6a/45/7d6a4535c11cbf05a1f8fa3e7e0d7d9c.jpg)
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Depends, is anyone here over 6'6"? Anyone play college ball?
The sad truth is that girls can not do anything boys can do despite what your teachers told you.
On another note, could a man have a sex change operation and play in the WNBA? i know it works for free drinks on ladies night, but in the WNBA?
Fallon Fox is doing it in professional mma and trying to get into the UFC, though she's causing quite a bit of controversy doing it. There's also this ;D:
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/7d/6a/45/7d6a4535c11cbf05a1f8fa3e7e0d7d9c.jpg)
There's also this (but it goes the other way with a woman playing on a mens team).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFITaQSXxP0
I watched it a couple of months ago on Amazon Prime (so probably also on Netflix), and it was actually pretty enjoyable, in the so bad it's good kinda way. Cute basketball film from the 70's, starring Welcome back Kotter and Griff from Married with Children.
Also hilarious to see how times have changed. PG movie from the 70's with lots of homophobic and racial slurs, guys smoking weed, etc., stuff that wouldn't fly even in a PG-13 movie today.
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correct me if I'm wrong but this thread is really about the relative futility of the 76ers, right?
Ya I think you are wrong. I think it's about the futility of the sixers as well as the relative skill level of wnba players
Right -- it's the "you play ball like a girl" of CB threads, aimed at the 76ers.
No I don't think so.
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Depends, is anyone here over 6'6"? Anyone play college ball?
The sad truth is that girls can not do anything boys can do despite what your teachers told you.
On another note, could a man have a sex change operation and play in the WNBA? i know it works for free drinks on ladies night, but in the WNBA?
I did, although not well. I'm sure others have.
Real talk: Could we at least lose by single digits? Question open to all...
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That's ridiculous. Just as ridiculous as a top college team beating the worst team in the NBA. Just wouldn't happen.
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All true statements but intelligence and effort matters too and I haven't seen the 76ers play like that since the days of Allen Iverson.
They play harder than a lot of AI era teams, the idea that they don't give a good effort every night is a bunch of baloney. Most young teams play fast and dumb, Sixers are no exception to that.
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Didn't two women just become Army Rangers?
Does this show on some level an elite woman can be better at certain stuff than a non elite man?
I mean 5 women Army Rangers vs 5 male average infantry or even Marines....
I still think some day it is within the realm of possibility you will see a woman in a men's major sports team. It has to happen at the college level first, but I don't see it as impossible.
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Depends, is anyone here over 6'6"? Anyone play college ball?
The sad truth is that girls can not do anything boys can do despite what your teachers told you.
On another note, could a man have a sex change operation and play in the WNBA? i know it works for free drinks on ladies night, but in the WNBA?
A man who had a sex change played women's tennis, back in the 70s or 80s. It would be hard to disallow.
renee richards is the woman in question.
as far as hemingway's bolded remark, i assume you are speaking strictly of certain sports. though that was not totally clear. and by the way, for a fun and interesting time i highly suggest this video... "kick like a girl."
it is fun to watch the "mighty cheetahs" in action. ;D
http://www.kicklikeagirlmovie.com/
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All true statements but intelligence and effort matters too and I haven't seen the 76ers play like that since the days of Allen Iverson.
They play harder than a lot of AI era teams, the idea that they don't give a good effort every night is a bunch of baloney. Most young teams play fast and dumb, Sixers are no exception to that.
My own personal feelings on what the Sixers are doing aside, I've actually been quite impressed with the job Brett Brown has done there keeping those guys on the right track. They play hard, they don't pack it in and play lazy. When your losing that much, and you basically know from the get-go that it's gonna be like that, it can be really hard to get your guys to keep focused and playing hard, and Brown has done a very good job with that.
If the whole plan works out (which I'm not convinced it will, but whatever) I hope Brown is still around to be the coach. I'd like to see what he could do with a legit NBA team.
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Maybe if the 5 point line was added they would have a shot.
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No, now stop being disrespectful.
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the WNBA team probably doesn't score more than 10 points. The 6ers would probably score every time down the floor. A decent division one boys high school team would beat the WNBA all-stars as well.
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the WNBA team probably doesn't score more than 10 points. The 6ers would probably score every time down the floor. A decent division one boys high school team would beat the WNBA all-stars as well.
TP+. Was just going to mention that it would be a victory for the WNBA team to break double digits in points. The 76ers squad is made up of guys that are at least in the top 400 basketball players on planet earth. Hell, they weren't even the worst team in the NBA. These guys beat several NBA teams last year. If they wanted to run up the score, they could make a mockery of the game. 180-8 or something along those lines. And this isn't bashing the WNBA. They are very talented. But there is absolutely no comparison.
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There is no WNBA team that could beat any D League team let alone an NBA team lol.
I dunno why you picked the 76ers because they were the 3rd worst team weren't they?
But yeah there would be 25 teams in high school that would beat the WNBA all star team...probably more.
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Hell no...an WNBA all star team would get killed by any random division 3 men's team and I would say any mid level high school team.
Have you seen Brittney Griner play? She is the most dominant big in the WNBA..and she looks un-coordinated as hell..I remember there were questions if she could make it to the NBA after her dominant career in college..she would get destroyed...keep in mind that she is probably the most athletic woman's player of all time and against guys she would be an absolute scrub.
It's weird but..women's basketball is the only sport where I'm delusional enough to think that if I trained hard enough I could keep up with the players in the WNBA..never think that with any other woman's sports...I just think women for whatever reason are not as good at basketball as other sports. I hope this doesn't sound sexist lol...and btw obviously I would not be able to keep up with the WNBA but that thought at least enters my mind..
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Not if the guys were trying .
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Hell no...an WNBA all star team would get killed by any random division 3 men's team and I would say any mid level high school team.
Have you seen Brittney Griner play? She is the most dominant big in the WNBA..and she looks un-coordinated as hell..I remember there were questions if she could make it to the NBA after her dominant career in college..she would get destroyed...keep in mind that she is probably the most athletic woman's player of all time and against guys she would be an absolute scrub.
It's weird but..women's basketball is the only sport where I'm delusional enough to think that if I trained hard enough I could keep up with the players in the WNBA..never think that with any other woman's sports...I just think women for whatever reason are not as good at basketball as other sports. I hope this doesn't sound sexist lol...and btw obviously I would not be able to keep up with the WNBA but that thought at least enters my mind..
I went to the source of all knowledge (Wikipedia!) and typed in D3 basketball....I got several divisions. I randomly clicked on some division I never heard of.
So then I had a choice of teams......Finlandia...never heard of em, but I couldn't pass up a team like Finlandia.
Here is their roster.....http://www.fulions.com/roster.aspx?path=mbball
Their biggest player is a 6ft 6 sophomore. He played 6.3 minutes per game last year where he got a fg% of .250 and a ft% of .375. They have one guy that's 5ft 8. He's a junior and a lot better. He plays 25.2 minutes per game and has percentages of .344fg and .714ft. His assists to to ratio is a tiny bit better than 1 to 1.
Finlandia had a record of 12-13 last year and were far better at home.
I think the WNBA all star team's got this.
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Nope, they would stand no chance. Noel would have like 30+ blocks.
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3165608/America-s-World-Cup-soccer-winning-women-beat-MEN-says-man-Landon-Donovan-calls-ultimate-match-Alex-Morgan-says-Bring-on.html
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http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/columns/story?columnist=wojciechowski_gene&id=5969758&sportCat=ncb
Hmm...that writer is a tad biased in UConn's favor. Nevetheless
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Hell no...an WNBA all star team would get killed by any random division 3 men's team and I would say any mid level high school team.
Have you seen Brittney Griner play? She is the most dominant big in the WNBA..and she looks un-coordinated as hell..I remember there were questions if she could make it to the NBA after her dominant career in college..she would get destroyed...keep in mind that she is probably the most athletic woman's player of all time and against guys she would be an absolute scrub.
It's weird but..women's basketball is the only sport where I'm delusional enough to think that if I trained hard enough I could keep up with the players in the WNBA..never think that with any other woman's sports...I just think women for whatever reason are not as good at basketball as other sports. I hope this doesn't sound sexist lol...and btw obviously I would not be able to keep up with the WNBA but that thought at least enters my mind..
I went to the source of all knowledge (Wikipedia!) and typed in D3 basketball....I got several divisions. I randomly clicked on some division I never heard of.
So then I had a choice of teams......Finlandia...never heard of em, but I couldn't pass up a team like Finlandia.
Here is their roster.....http://www.fulions.com/roster.aspx?path=mbball
Their biggest player is a 6ft 6 sophomore. He played 6.3 minutes per game last year where he got a fg% of .250 and a ft% of .375. They have one guy that's 5ft 8. He's a junior and a lot better. He plays 25.2 minutes per game and has percentages of .344fg and .714ft. His assists to to ratio is a tiny bit better than 1 to 1.
Finlandia had a record of 12-13 last year and were far better at home.
I think the WNBA all star team's got this.
they would still be way more athletic and stronger..honestly it would be a close game because this team doesn't look very good at all but they would still beat the WNBA all stars...the rebounding advantage alone would be too much to overcome...you listed a guy that was 5"8..how many wnba players would be that height? Look at the heights of this years WNBA all star team and you"ll see a bunch of 5"8 and 5"9 players and 6"2-6"4 power forward and centers...Even though the finlandia team looks underwhelming when compared to other mens teams..they would still physically overmatch any wnba team.
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but you know what...the skill level of the wnba players woild be much higher..It's hard to say because I feel like a motivated mens team would get pretty much every rebound..I think it'll be close...If you have a physical advantage even if you are not as skilled..you can win.
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I knew a guy who played no college ball and said he and his friends were beating a final four women's team so bad at half that they didnt even come back out to play. NO chance the WNBA team beats a professional men's team, unless the game counts in the loss column for the 76ers draft that is.
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I knew a guy who played no college ball and said he and his friends were beating a final four women's team so bad at half that they didnt even come back out to play. NO chance the WNBA team beats a professional men's team, unless the game counts in the loss column for the 76ers draft that is.
A bunch of guys just played a pick up game with a final four women's team and crushed em?
Were the women exhausted or trying or playing everyone? I'm extremely dubious on this one
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Have you ever played a competitive sport against women? Do you really think that a woman is going to do any damage against a guy inside? Imagine a a 6'5'' lady trying to post up a guy who played basketball even in high school. She doesnt have the strength. Didnt women first dunk in a college game just a few years ago?
This is not meant to be a knock against women or women's sports but when you are comparing sports that involve size, speed, strength and stamina it's not only unfair to say they would beat men it's also absurd. Yes, I do mean a group of guys who played on an organized YMCA team and who were all excellent athletes and yes they did play against a women's final four team and yes the women did not come out for the second half because they were getting beat too bad. Be dubious all you want but you are wrong.
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I just looked around online to see if I could find vertical jump measures for women's sports. I didnt find much but the record for the University of Nebraska's women's volleyball was 25 inches done in 2001. I could jump 25 inches in 8th grade and 35 when I was a senior in high school, not college. And, that was done without even working at it. I'm sorry but a team of WNBA all stars would get absolutely killed by the 6'ers.
Wilt is the only player to ever dislocate and opponents shoulder during a blocked shot but if the WN BA played the 76ers that record would be gone. If it were a real game and you told Philly that each player on the winning team would receive a half million dollars and each on the losing would get nothing, Philly would win by 60 points.
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the real question is...would they beat finlandia?
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Edit: wrong thread.
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Yeah I don't know why this is a real question. Women are weaker then men. Sports that involve strength, speed, etc. women have no shot at all. Even sports like tennis, which involve far more skill, the power advantage would still be incredible. I mean take Serena who is a couple of wins away from the calendar year Grand Slam. Sure she could beat a lot of men, but she couldn't beat the top men, and it wouldn't be close. Just too much power and speed, and tennis is one of the few sports where power is minimized. And I know this because I watch mixed doubles. The power difference is quite large.
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Have you ever played a competitive sport against women? Do you really think that a woman is going to do any damage against a guy inside? Imagine a a 6'5'' lady trying to post up a guy who played basketball even in high school. She doesnt have the strength. Didnt women first dunk in a college game just a few years ago?
This is not meant to be a knock against women or women's sports but when you are comparing sports that involve size, speed, strength and stamina it's not only unfair to say they would beat men it's also absurd. Yes, I do mean a group of guys who played on an organized YMCA team and who were all excellent athletes and yes they did play against a women's final four team and yes the women did not come out for the second half because they were getting beat too bad. Be dubious all you want but you are wrong.
Yes I have. I had a ranking in all 3 fencing weapons. Went to fence an All-American to be on practically her first day of using a saber (she had been good with a foil till then) and she dominated me. Interestingly there was another all - american to be that I helped train. Even years later I think I might crush her. She just seemed slower and whatnot. That said I could be wrong.
I admit that was more of a skill issue, and far less a physical issue like football or something
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Yeah I don't know why this is a real question. Women are weaker then men. Sports that involve strength, speed, etc. women have no shot at all. Even sports like tennis, which involve far more skill, the power advantage would still be incredible. I mean take Serena who is a couple of wins away from the calendar year Grand Slam. Sure she could beat a lot of men, but she couldn't beat the top men, and it wouldn't be close. Just too much power and speed, and tennis is one of the few sports where power is minimized. And I know this because I watch mixed doubles. The power difference is quite large.
Funny story - back in 1998 Venus + Serena Williams said they thought they could beat any man outside the top 200. So a guy named Karsten Braach, ranked #203 took them up on it around the Australian Open:
"Before the matches, Braasch played a round of golf in the morning, drank a couple of beers, smoked a few cigarettes, and then played the Williams sisters for a set each, one after the other. He defeated Serena, 6-1, and Venus, 6-2. Serena said afterwards "I didn't know it would be that hard. I hit shots that would have been winners on the women's tour and he got to them easily."" http://www.topendsports.com/sport/tennis/men-v-women.htm (http://www.topendsports.com/sport/tennis/men-v-women.htm)
Even in tennis where the players don't directly interact it's no real contest. Add actual physical contact and the edge gets even wider. It's just not plausible.
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Yeah I don't know why this is a real question. Women are weaker then men. Sports that involve strength, speed, etc. women have no shot at all. Even sports like tennis, which involve far more skill, the power advantage would still be incredible. I mean take Serena who is a couple of wins away from the calendar year Grand Slam. Sure she could beat a lot of men, but she couldn't beat the top men, and it wouldn't be close. Just too much power and speed, and tennis is one of the few sports where power is minimized. And I know this because I watch mixed doubles. The power difference is quite large.
Funny story - back in 1998 Venus + Serena Williams said they thought they could beat any man outside the top 200. So a guy named Karsten Braach, ranked #203 took them up on it around the Australian Open:
"Before the matches, Braasch played a round of golf in the morning, drank a couple of beers, smoked a few cigarettes, and then played the Williams sisters for a set each, one after the other. He defeated Serena, 6-1, and Venus, 6-2. Serena said afterwards "I didn't know it would be that hard. I hit shots that would have been winners on the women's tour and he got to them easily."" http://www.topendsports.com/sport/tennis/men-v-women.htm (http://www.topendsports.com/sport/tennis/men-v-women.htm)
Even in tennis where the players don't directly interact it's no real contest. Add actual physical contact and the edge gets even wider. It's just not plausible.
Yep, though Serena is a lot better now then when she was 16 in 1998. Still would lose easily against any top man (and I don't just mean top ten when I say top man, I mean more like top 100). I would be interested in seeing her face a top 200 guy at this time (someone like Marton Fucsovics who is presently ranked 200 though peaked at 135 last year).
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NBA has the best players in the world, even on the 6ers. No, over before it starts. I would pay to see them try. Hell, people pay to see Globetrotters and they routinely scorch opponents.
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Have you ever played a competitive sport against women? Do you really think that a woman is going to do any damage against a guy inside? Imagine a a 6'5'' lady trying to post up a guy who played basketball even in high school. She doesnt have the strength. Didnt women first dunk in a college game just a few years ago?
This is not meant to be a knock against women or women's sports but when you are comparing sports that involve size, speed, strength and stamina it's not only unfair to say they would beat men it's also absurd. Yes, I do mean a group of guys who played on an organized YMCA team and who were all excellent athletes and yes they did play against a women's final four team and yes the women did not come out for the second half because they were getting beat too bad. Be dubious all you want but you are wrong.
Yes I have. I had a ranking in all 3 fencing weapons. Went to fence an All-American to be on practically her first day of using a saber (she had been good with a foil till then) and she dominate me. Interestingly there was another all - american to be that I helped train. Even years later I think I might crush her. She just seemed slower and whatnot. That said I could be wrong.
I admit that was more of a skill issue, and far less a physical issue like football or something
Remind me to specify nerf guns or something if I challenge you to a duel.
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Have you ever played a competitive sport against women? Do you really think that a woman is going to do any damage against a guy inside? Imagine a a 6'5'' lady trying to post up a guy who played basketball even in high school. She doesnt have the strength. Didnt women first dunk in a college game just a few years ago?
This is not meant to be a knock against women or women's sports but when you are comparing sports that involve size, speed, strength and stamina it's not only unfair to say they would beat men it's also absurd. Yes, I do mean a group of guys who played on an organized YMCA team and who were all excellent athletes and yes they did play against a women's final four team and yes the women did not come out for the second half because they were getting beat too bad. Be dubious all you want but you are wrong.
Yes I have. I had a ranking in all 3 fencing weapons. Went to fence an All-American to be on practically her first day of using a saber (she had been good with a foil till then) and she dominate me. Interestingly there was another all - american to be that I helped train. Even years later I think I might crush her. She just seemed slower and whatnot. That said I could be wrong.
I admit that was more of a skill issue, and far less a physical issue like football or something
Remind me to specify nerf guns or something if I challenge you to a duel.
A while ago I spoke to the 2nd all american and explained I've been sword fighting with nerf swords with the young boy for like 3 years now. It's really hard because he gets in low and goes at my legs like Yoda and I'm not used to defending in there. Over time I've gotten better to the point I can stop him left handed but it was very hard for a while. She thought this was hilarious.
I should also be more specific. I didn't mean I had earned like a world ranking or something. Fencers earn rankings from E up to A. I got up to a C which is where you earn automatic Es in the other two, which is what happened. (A B gets you Ds, and an A gets you Cs).
18 year old recruits on a college team with high aspirations would be generally in the C to A range (mostly Bs), but I saw an E once. I did decent against some As or former As here and there. Fenced an Olympian to be and didn't make a fool of myself.
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So, yeah, Nerf guns it is. ;D