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Title: 2K: Playing As Next Year's Team
Post by: PhoSita on July 03, 2015, 12:45:32 PM
So, I have July 3rd off and have nothing better to do.  Therefore, naturally, I'm playing a bunch of 2K, and doing it as our own beloved Celtics.

Superstar difficulty.  My own sliders (which skew defensive).  Real Player FG% on shots and free throws.  12 minute quarters.

In place of Terry Rozier, RJ Hunter, and Jordan Mickey, I am using Trey Burke, Jeremy Lamb, and Lou Amundson, respectively.

I traded Evan Turner for Moe Harkless.  No other trades.

Depth chart

Quote
Thomas
Bradley
Crowder
Sullinger
Amir
-----
Smart
Olynyk
Zeller
Jerebko
Rozier (Burke)
-----
Hunter (Lamb)
Harkless
Mickey (Amundson)
----
Wallace
Young


Here's the box score from Game 1 against the Nets.

(http://s24.postimg.org/54gyzgch1/Boxscore_3.png)

(http://s12.postimg.org/j9i6tiq3h/Boxscore_1.png)

(http://s13.postimg.org/4i7xpo4uf/Boxscore_2.png)


Most of the game I played with two distinct lineups.  I don't like doing 5 man substitutions, but it seemed appropriate with this team.  The bench unit played more or less as well as the starters.

Thomas scored 18 in the first half but didn't do much in the second.

The Nets were not a difficult team to beat.  Only Lopez and Deron gave me any trouble.

Six players in double figures, and one basket away from a 7th.  I like to see that.
Title: Re: 2K: Playing As Next Year's Team
Post by: TheFlex on July 03, 2015, 12:59:02 PM
Atta boy Isaiah!

Don't think Burke is the right sub for Rozier. I'd go Tony Wroten. And for Mickey, I'd go Jeremy Evans or someone like that.
Title: Re: 2K: Playing As Next Year's Team
Post by: JoeyAinge on July 03, 2015, 01:04:44 PM
Seems about right
Title: Re: 2K: Playing As Next Year's Team
Post by: PhoSita on July 03, 2015, 01:08:47 PM
Atta boy Isaiah!

Don't think Burke is the right sub for Rozier. I'd go Tony Wroten. And for Mickey, I'd go Jeremy Evans or someone like that.

Tony Wroten is 6'6'' so it's not the greatest comp.  I picked a guy I knew I wouldn't be able to put up huge stat lines with.  Wroten is cheese in 2K.

Burke is a comp for Rozier I saw on a couple sites.  It was either him or Dennis Schroder.  But he's another easy-cheese guy.

I'm not really expecting to use Amundson / Mickey so it doesn't matter much.  I just wanted a 6'8''ish guy who rebounds and defends but who is solidly a third or fourth stringer.  Jeremy Evans was my first thought, but it turns out he's at least 20 pounds lighter than Mickey. 
Title: Re: 2K: Playing As Next Year's Team
Post by: The One on July 03, 2015, 01:29:24 PM
I love 2k!

And Q*bert!!!
Title: Re: 2K: Playing As Next Year's Team
Post by: LarBrd33 on July 03, 2015, 01:30:27 PM
Sim an entire season. Do they win less than 30 games?

Did you have to manually create the rookies or did you find an updated roster.  If you made them yourself, make sure they are all 1 star players with 1.5 star potential.  The rookies will be non factors.
Title: Re: 2K: Playing As Next Year's Team
Post by: Celts Fan 508 on July 03, 2015, 01:35:51 PM
You can download the roster including the rookies, there was a thread on here this week about how to do it
Title: Re: 2K: Playing As Next Year's Team
Post by: PhoSita on July 03, 2015, 01:48:13 PM
You can download the roster including the rookies, there was a thread on here this week about how to do it

I don't really like using fan-made rookies.

As for simming the season, that's not really the point.  I don't need to see the 30 win season where the team's leading scorer is Thomas with 15 points and everybody else is averaging under 10 and the team has a 42% field goal percentage on the year.

The 2K simulation engine is pretty draconian toward low-talent teams.
Title: Re: 2K: Playing As Next Year's Team
Post by: PhoSita on July 03, 2015, 01:48:46 PM
Sim an entire season. Do they win less than 30 games?

Did you have to manually create the rookies or did you find an updated roster.  If you made them yourself, make sure they are all 1 star players with 1.5 star potential.  The rookies will be non factors.

I'm using players that already exist who I believe are decent analogs for what we can expect out of the rookies.
Title: Re: 2K: Playing As Next Year's Team
Post by: cltc5 on July 03, 2015, 01:51:38 PM
Has Sully lost any weight?   That's my concern
Title: Re: 2K: Playing As Next Year's Team
Post by: hodgy03038 on July 03, 2015, 01:56:18 PM
Has Sully lost any weight?   That's my concern

He was asking the same thing about you. Why are YOU concerned with his weight  ;D
Title: Re: 2K: Playing As Next Year's Team
Post by: D.o.s. on July 03, 2015, 01:58:50 PM
Sim an entire season. Do they win less than 30 games?

Did you have to manually create the rookies or did you find an updated roster.  If you made them yourself, make sure they are all 1 star players with 1.5 star potential.  The rookies will be non factors.

I'm using players that already exist who I believe are decent analogs for what we can expect out of the rookies.

I was also expecting a Sim'd season with updated rosters around the league.

I am disappoint.
Title: Re: 2K: Playing As Next Year's Team
Post by: PhoSita on July 03, 2015, 02:05:04 PM
Sim an entire season. Do they win less than 30 games?

Did you have to manually create the rookies or did you find an updated roster.  If you made them yourself, make sure they are all 1 star players with 1.5 star potential.  The rookies will be non factors.

I'm using players that already exist who I believe are decent analogs for what we can expect out of the rookies.

I was also expecting a Sim'd season with updated rosters around the league.

I am disappoint.

Sorry, maybe I'll do that later, but I'm interested in actually playing as the team for the moment.


Title: Re: 2K: Playing As Next Year's Team
Post by: PhoSita on July 03, 2015, 02:11:23 PM
Game #2 was pretty ugly.

The Rockets were the opponent.

Harden and Dwight dominated. 

Harden - 43 pts 8 reb 7 ast on 16-28 shooting, 4-9 from 3, 7-7 FT.

Dwight - 20 pts 14 reb 2 ast 1 stl on 9-15 shooting, 2-2 FT.


Was a 2 point game with 5 minutes or so left.  Turned into a de-facto blowout because Isaiah couldn't hit shots and Harden took over.

Really couldn't score in the paint all game.  The Rockets really dominated the paint in general.  Not a huge surprise.

(http://s23.postimg.org/4tav4rm3f/Boxscore_6.png)

(http://s3.postimg.org/u9wslhkmb/Boxscore_4.png)

(http://s12.postimg.org/vpbjr75nh/Boxscore_5.png)


Plus-minus tells the story in this one: The starting lineup got boned.
Title: Re: 2K: Playing As Next Year's Team
Post by: D.o.s. on July 03, 2015, 02:17:31 PM
Sim an entire season. Do they win less than 30 games?

Did you have to manually create the rookies or did you find an updated roster.  If you made them yourself, make sure they are all 1 star players with 1.5 star potential.  The rookies will be non factors.

I'm using players that already exist who I believe are decent analogs for what we can expect out of the rookies.

I was also expecting a Sim'd season with updated rosters around the league.

I am disappoint.

Sorry, maybe I'll do that later, but I'm interested in actually playing as the team for the moment.

Pfft. Actually play the game. What are you doing, trying to have fun?

Weirdo.
Title: Re: 2K: Playing As Next Year's Team
Post by: cltc5 on July 03, 2015, 02:18:26 PM
Has Sully lost any weight?   That's my concern

He was asking the same thing about you. Why are YOU concerned with his weight  ;D

Tell him yes I have.  I'm concerned because he's FAT!  How's your personal road to 300lbs going? ;D
Title: Re: 2K: Playing As Next Year's Team
Post by: PhoSita on July 03, 2015, 02:21:48 PM
Sim an entire season. Do they win less than 30 games?

Did you have to manually create the rookies or did you find an updated roster.  If you made them yourself, make sure they are all 1 star players with 1.5 star potential.  The rookies will be non factors.

I'm using players that already exist who I believe are decent analogs for what we can expect out of the rookies.

I was also expecting a Sim'd season with updated rosters around the league.

I am disappoint.

Sorry, maybe I'll do that later, but I'm interested in actually playing as the team for the moment.

Pfft. Actually play the game. What are you doing, trying to have fun?

Weirdo.

Something like that.   ;D


Through two games, I'm averaging about 33 three point attempts per game.  Actually shooting a decent percentage, too.  I like to see that.
Title: Re: 2K: Playing As Next Year's Team
Post by: PhoSita on July 03, 2015, 03:48:40 PM
Game 3 against the Mavs was a bloodbath.  Not really close at any point.  I won't post the box score, just the team comparison.

Marcus Smart and Rozier (aka Trey Burke) had their best scoring games yet.

Smart - 15 pts 5 reb 4 ast 1 stl 6-11 FG 3-5 3P in 21 minutes
Rozier (Burke) - 12 pts 6 ast 2 reb 2 st 5-8 FG 2-2 3P in 16 min

Otherwise, was not a great game. 



(http://s17.postimg.org/7r9o9q6lb/Boxscore_7.png)


Some things that stand out about the team, which are not surprising since it's basically the same team as we had this past year.

- Scoring in the paint is very difficult for this team.  Very little inside presence.

- Defending the paint is very difficult for this team.  Also very little inside presence on that end.

- The team is set up well to run a modern, pick and roll heavy offense with lots of moving the ball around the perimeter.  Drive and kick is better with Thomas and Rozier both able to play that way. 

- Trouble is, there just aren't enough shot makers.  Too many guys who can take threes but not really make them very often, very consistently, or with a quick release.

- The starting lineup and the bench lineup are pretty much neck and neck in terms of effectiveness.  That's a blessing and a curse, for obvious reasons.
Title: Re: 2K: Playing As Next Year's Team
Post by: TheFlex on July 03, 2015, 03:54:38 PM
Game 3 against the Mavs was a bloodbath.  Not really close at any point.  I won't post the box score, just the team comparison.

Marcus Smart and Rozier (aka Trey Burke) had their best scoring games yet.

Smart - 15 pts 5 reb 4 ast 1 stl 6-11 FG 3-5 3P in 21 minutes
Rozier (Burke) - 12 pts 6 ast 2 reb 2 st 5-8 FG 2-2 3P in 16 min

Otherwise, was not a great game. 



(http://s17.postimg.org/7r9o9q6lb/Boxscore_7.png)


Some things that stand out about the team, which are not surprising since it's basically the same team as we had this past year.

- Scoring in the paint is very difficult for this team.  Very little inside presence.

- Defending the paint is very difficult for this team.  Also very little inside presence on that end.

- The team is set up well to run a modern, pick and roll heavy offense with lots of moving the ball around the perimeter.  Drive and kick is better with Thomas and Rozier both able to play that way. 

- Trouble is, there just aren't enough shot makers.  Too many guys who can take threes but not really make them very often, very consistently, or with a quick release.

- The starting lineup and the bench lineup are pretty much neck and neck in terms of effectiveness.  That's a blessing and a curse, for obvious reasons.

I usually kill it with Sully in the post on 2k.
Title: Re: 2K: Playing As Next Year's Team
Post by: TheTruthFot18 on July 03, 2015, 03:54:51 PM
Atta boy Isaiah!

Don't think Burke is the right sub for Rozier. I'd go Tony Wroten. And for Mickey, I'd go Jeremy Evans or someone like that.

I also play with the Celtics and have Isiah coming off the bench. I'll sim a few games to move the season along and I notice when I do the AI has IT playing 36+ mins (I have him capped at 30) and going for ~25ppg. Crazy.
Title: Re: 2K: Playing As Next Year's Team
Post by: Eddie20 on July 03, 2015, 03:59:13 PM
Sim an entire season. Do they win less than 30 games?

Did you have to manually create the rookies or did you find an updated roster.  If you made them yourself, make sure they are all 1 star players with 1.5 star potential.  The rookies will be non factors.

Better yet, sim the entire season and let us know how many games Embiid actually plays.
Title: Re: 2K: Playing As Next Year's Team
Post by: PhoSita on July 03, 2015, 04:00:11 PM

I usually kill it with Sully in the post on 2k.

I usually go to him in the post a few times a game at least, depending on matchups.  I don't like to force the issue in the post, though, because I find it interrupts my flow and leads to turnovers.

For the most part I just run a succession of pick and rolls and move the ball around the perimeter until I see an opening.  I run a lot of pick and pops with Sullinger, Olynyk, and Amir, even if I end up passing to the weak side.  That's one thing I like about this team -- you can always run a pick and pop with any of the big men that get on the floor.

Unlike in real life, Bradley takes very few mid-range jumpers for me.  He's almost entirely corner threes, with the occasional fast-break point or catch and shoot jumper from the baseline.