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Title: A handful of Bruins fans are making Boston look racist and classless
Post by: Roy H. on May 02, 2014, 01:14:10 PM
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Boston Bruins president Cam Neely on Friday denounced those who directed racial slurs at P.K. Subban via social media after the Canadiens forward scored the winning goal in Montreal's playoff victory over Boston on Thursday night.

"The racist, classless views expressed by an ignorant group of individuals following Thursday's game via digital media are in no way a reflection of anyone associated with the Bruins organization," Neely said in a statement issued by the team.

Subban, who is black, scored his second goal of Game 1 of the Eastern Conference semifinals at 4:17 of the second overtime to give the Canadiens a 4-3 win over the Bruins. Following the game, a few Twitter users posted racial slurs disparaging him.

In April 2012, the Bruins issued a similar statement after Washington Capitals forward Joel Ward, who is also black, was the target of racial slurs after he scored the overtime goal that eliminated the Bruins from the Stanley Cup playoffs in the first round.

Seriously?  Way to fit into a stereotype, morons.
Title: Re: A handful of Bruins fans are making Boston look racist and classless
Post by: D.o.s. on May 02, 2014, 01:24:01 PM
If the shoe fits...

or, another favorite, "all stereotypes are rooted in some sort of truth."
Title: Re: A handful of Bruins fans are making Boston look racist and classless
Post by: Quetzalcoatl on May 02, 2014, 01:51:44 PM
If the shoe fits...

or, another favorite, "all stereotypes are rooted in some sort of truth."

That kind of thinking is the problem to begin with.
Title: Re: A handful of Bruins fans are making Boston look racist and classless
Post by: D.o.s. on May 02, 2014, 01:55:12 PM
 ;)
Title: Re: A handful of Bruins fans are making Boston look racist and classless
Post by: SparzWizard on May 02, 2014, 01:59:14 PM
Another reason added to why people outside of Boston hates Boston Sports teams. Besides our collective championship banners and titles and all.

Sighhhh.
Title: Re: A handful of Bruins fans are making Boston look racist and classless
Post by: Smokeeye123 on May 02, 2014, 02:28:33 PM
Wish the team didn't release a statement. This wouldnt of been a 'thing' if they didnt. If PK scored in overtime against any other team in the NHL you'd get the same handful of comments on twitter.

Our governor is black, Boston isn't a particularly racist city.
Title: Re: A handful of Bruins fans are making Boston look racist and classless
Post by: Celtics18 on May 02, 2014, 02:35:04 PM
I was kind of wondering if this says more about Boston/New England sports fans or if it says more about hockey fans?

Anyway, it's pathetic and shameful.  I'm glad Cam Neely gave a response, whether he had to or not, if for no other reasons than to categorically let those ignorant morons know that he and the organization is not on their side.
Title: Re: A handful of Bruins fans are making Boston look racist and classless
Post by: D.o.s. on May 02, 2014, 02:36:31 PM
Wish the team didn't release a statement. This wouldnt of been a 'thing' if they didnt. If PK scored in overtime against any other team in the NHL you'd get the same handful of comments on twitter.

Our governor is black, Boston isn't a particularly racist city.



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Title: Re: A handful of Bruins fans are making Boston look racist and classless
Post by: LooseCannon on May 02, 2014, 02:41:51 PM
Wish the team didn't release a statement. This wouldnt of been a 'thing' if they didnt. If PK scored in overtime against any other team in the NHL you'd get the same handful of comments on twitter.

Our governor is black, Boston isn't a particularly racist city.

Isn't that a bit like saying that you can't be racist if you hire black people (and clothe and feed them)?

The point of calling attention to misbehavior is to make sure it is a "thing".  Do you think racism won't exist if you don't mention it?
Title: Re: A handful of Bruins fans are making Boston look racist and classless
Post by: Smokeeye123 on May 02, 2014, 04:12:16 PM
Wish the team didn't release a statement. This wouldnt of been a 'thing' if they didnt. If PK scored in overtime against any other team in the NHL you'd get the same handful of comments on twitter.

Our governor is black, Boston isn't a particularly racist city.

Isn't that a bit like saying that you can't be racist if you hire black people (and clothe and feed them)?

The point of calling attention to misbehavior is to make sure it is a "thing".  Do you think racism won't exist if you don't mention it?

No but I'd rather it be pushed under the rug then editorialized and beaten to death for 3 days while I have to listen Skip Bayless and friends jaw about it.  Racisim will probably always exist. And I probably should of put more examples of how inclusive MA is. Gay marriage is legal, etc. People in MA are no more racist than people in Maine or  Pennsylvania. It just offends me when people use blanket terms saying all of Boston is racist on websites and such.
Title: Re: A handful of Bruins fans are making Boston look racist and classless
Post by: incoherent on May 02, 2014, 04:25:17 PM
Was listening to WEEI after the Capitals beat us, they were saying that literally every single racist comment made on twitter was coming from accounts that were created in cities outside of new england. 

I dont know if that was really the case, they claimed to have research it, nor do I know if this is the case now. But I think these idiots just like to be racist when they can be regardless if they are fans of the team or not.
Title: Re: A handful of Bruins fans are making Boston look racist and classless
Post by: hwangjini_1 on May 02, 2014, 04:44:38 PM
Another reason added to why people outside of Boston hates Boston Sports teams. Besides our collective championship banners and titles and all.

Sighhhh.
exactly. racist statements would never appear in places such as LA.
Title: Re: A handful of Bruins fans are making Boston look racist and classless
Post by: BigAlTheFuture on May 02, 2014, 06:08:56 PM
Another reason added to why people outside of Boston hates Boston Sports teams. Besides our collective championship banners and titles and all.

Sighhhh.
exactly. racist statements would never appear in places such as LA.

Lol.... They happen everywhere. Don't tell me there would be NONE in LA. that's false
Title: Re: A handful of Bruins fans are making Boston look racist and classless
Post by: BigAlTheFuture on May 02, 2014, 06:09:44 PM
Wish the team didn't release a statement. This wouldnt of been a 'thing' if they didnt. If PK scored in overtime against any other team in the NHL you'd get the same handful of comments on twitter.

Our governor is black, Boston isn't a particularly racist city.



(http://booksnobbery.files.wordpress.com/2014/03/wait-what-mal.gif?w=560)

Are you from Boston or do you live in Boston?
Title: Re: A handful of Bruins fans are making Boston look racist and classless
Post by: D.o.s. on May 02, 2014, 06:16:27 PM
Wish the team didn't release a statement. This wouldnt of been a 'thing' if they didnt. If PK scored in overtime against any other team in the NHL you'd get the same handful of comments on twitter.

Our governor is black, Boston isn't a particularly racist city.



(http://booksnobbery.files.wordpress.com/2014/03/wait-what-mal.gif?w=560)

Are you from Boston or do you live in Boston?

I lived in Boston for a time. I wasn't born there. 

Have you lived in enough cities to identify Boston as one that "isn't particularly racist"?

Either way, like the Cannon said, that kind of equivocation (Black Governor = not a racist city) is silly.
Title: Re: A handful of Bruins fans are making Boston look racist and classless
Post by: Eja117 on May 02, 2014, 06:16:39 PM
Does anyone know exactly how many of these tweets or what not actually happened? Like what percentage? And how many were tweeted by I guess the Tampa Bay fans (that's who the Canadiens beat last week, right?)
Title: Re: A handful of Bruins fans are making Boston look racist and classless
Post by: BigAlTheFuture on May 02, 2014, 06:21:33 PM
Wish the team didn't release a statement. This wouldnt of been a 'thing' if they didnt. If PK scored in overtime against any other team in the NHL you'd get the same handful of comments on twitter.

Our governor is black, Boston isn't a particularly racist city.



(http://booksnobbery.files.wordpress.com/2014/03/wait-what-mal.gif?w=560)

Are you from Boston or do you live in Boston?

I lived in Boston for a time. I wasn't born there. 

Have you lived in enough cities to identify Boston as one that "isn't particularly racist"?

I currently live in Boston. Dorchester, Mass specifically for most of my childhood and part of my adult life. I've also lived in Texas, New Jersey, and New Hampshire for short periods of time.

And yes, I would say that Boston is just about the same as those places. Probably have seen more racism in Texas and New Hampshire than I have in Boston.
Title: Re: A handful of Bruins fans are making Boston look racist and classless
Post by: greg683x on May 02, 2014, 06:24:56 PM
Wish the team didn't release a statement. This wouldnt of been a 'thing' if they didnt. If PK scored in overtime against any other team in the NHL you'd get the same handful of comments on twitter.

Our governor is black, Boston isn't a particularly racist city.



(http://booksnobbery.files.wordpress.com/2014/03/wait-what-mal.gif?w=560)

lol tp.  that picture says it all
Title: Re: A handful of Bruins fans are making Boston look racist and classless
Post by: SparzWizard on May 02, 2014, 06:26:12 PM
Another reason added to why people outside of Boston hates Boston Sports teams. Besides our collective championship banners and titles and all.

Sighhhh.
exactly. racist statements would never appear in places such as LA.

Lol.... They happen everywhere. Don't tell me there would be NONE in LA. that's false

Actually I live in LA as a Celtics fan and there are so many people hyping up about Donald Sterling racial nonsense. I'm even more shocked that he's an alumni from my state university. But...what a disappointment. But anyways...
Title: Re: A handful of Bruins fans are making Boston look racist and classless
Post by: Celtics4ever on May 02, 2014, 06:30:24 PM
Sell the Bruins to Sterling?  JK

Usually it is a few that ruin it for everybody or make all look bad.  I didn't even know Hockey was played this time of year.
Title: Re: A handful of Bruins fans are making Boston look racist and classless
Post by: GreenWarrior on May 02, 2014, 06:49:31 PM
honestly when I first heard this I was like "ohhh, here we go!" but then I got to thinking that if the world perceives us as racist over what a few morons say on twitter then it's on them for not realizing they don't represent the whole. 
Title: Re: A handful of Bruins fans are making Boston look racist and classless
Post by: sahara on May 02, 2014, 06:54:31 PM
I know this has nothing to do with American history, but I am white and my people have been slaved since about 1100yr. We got our independence at 1917. We had to fight for our independece twice after that. After 800 years of opressison we finally had our freedom, and we are white people.
Title: Re: A handful of Bruins fans are making Boston look racist and classless
Post by: indeedproceed on May 02, 2014, 07:02:58 PM
The story is a non-story, a piece of easily generated hack journalism.

Id be more convinced if they looked at all tweets during PK's goals, and looked at the volume of racist comments, and then also looked at all tweets during pivotal goals.

Otherwise, it's pretty meaningless, with nothing to compare it to.
Title: Re: A handful of Bruins fans are making Boston look racist and classless
Post by: Roy H. on May 02, 2014, 07:05:07 PM
Wish the team didn't release a statement. This wouldnt of been a 'thing' if they didnt. If PK scored in overtime against any other team in the NHL you'd get the same handful of comments on twitter.

Our governor is black, Boston isn't a particularly racist city.



(http://booksnobbery.files.wordpress.com/2014/03/wait-what-mal.gif?w=560)

Are you from Boston or do you live in Boston?

I lived in Boston for a time. I wasn't born there. 

Have you lived in enough cities to identify Boston as one that "isn't particularly racist"?

I currently live in Boston. Dorchester, Mass specifically for most of my childhood and part of my adult life. I've also lived in Texas, New Jersey, and New Hampshire for short periods of time.

And yes, I would say that Boston is just about the same as those places. Probably have seen more racism in Texas and New Hampshire than I have in Boston.

I lived near Andrew Square for a couple of years.  I definitely saw my share of Southie racism, worse than what I've seen other places. 

But, I've mostly lived in the Northeast and Northwest.  Also, what one might see in Southie is a lot different than different spots in and around the city.  I didn't see any racism at all when I lived in Lexington.
Title: Re: A handful of Bruins fans are making Boston look racist and classless
Post by: sahara on May 02, 2014, 07:07:46 PM
I know this has nothing to do with American history, but I am white and my people have been slaved since about 1100yr. We got our independence at 1917. We had to fight for our independece twice after that. After 800 years of opressison we finally had our freedom, and we are white people.

And my ancestors were highly valuable because they had blonde hair and blue eyes, they were freaks to the slavemasters.
Title: Re: A handful of Bruins fans are making Boston look racist and classless
Post by: Roy H. on May 02, 2014, 07:08:55 PM
I know this has nothing to do with American history, but I am white and my people have been slaved since about 1100yr. We got our independence at 1917. We had to fight for our independece twice after that. After 800 years of opressison we finally had our freedom, and we are white people.

And my ancestors were highly valuable because they had blonde hair and blue eyes, they were freaks to the slavemasters.

I'm curious, where did this happen?
Title: Re: A handful of Bruins fans are making Boston look racist and classless
Post by: sahara on May 02, 2014, 07:12:01 PM
I know this has nothing to do with American history, but I am white and my people have been slaved since about 1100yr. We got our independence at 1917. We had to fight for our independece twice after that. After 800 years of opressison we finally had our freedom, and we are white people.

And my ancestors were highly valuable because they had blonde hair and blue eyes, they were freaks to the slavemasters.

I'm curious, where did this happen?

Modern Finland. Sweden and Russia have played as like a toy.
Title: Re: A handful of Bruins fans are making Boston look racist and classless
Post by: Roy H. on May 02, 2014, 07:17:20 PM
Does anyone know exactly how many of these tweets or what not actually happened? Like what percentage? And how many were tweeted by I guess the Tampa Bay fans (that's who the Canadiens beat last week, right?)

I read that there were 17,000 tweets referencing Subban and a slur, but that wasn't broken down by racist posts vs. people re-tweeting and condemning the racist posts.  (I wonder, if you retweet the n-word several times to condemn its use, is that counterproductive?)
Title: Re: A handful of Bruins fans are making Boston look racist and classless
Post by: CelticD on May 02, 2014, 07:27:08 PM
this has been the case for a looooong time. gotta take the good wit the bad. wen fans rooted "lets go celtics!" for 4 minutes straight everybody was like "yaaaaa boston has REAL fans". but now that its sumthin bad its "nooooo this does not reflect what boston is, or respresents." gotta take the good and the bad unfortunately.
Title: Re: A handful of Bruins fans are making Boston look racist and classless
Post by: Eja117 on May 02, 2014, 09:55:20 PM
Does anyone know exactly how many of these tweets or what not actually happened? Like what percentage? And how many were tweeted by I guess the Tampa Bay fans (that's who the Canadiens beat last week, right?)

I read that there were 17,000 tweets referencing Subban and a slur, but that wasn't broken down by racist posts vs. people re-tweeting and condemning the racist posts.  (I wonder, if you retweet the n-word several times to condemn its use, is that counterproductive?)
Does anyone know how many Bruins tweets there were overall or how many people watched the game?
Title: Re: A handful of Bruins fans are making Boston look racist and classless
Post by: LooseCannon on May 03, 2014, 12:09:43 PM
No but I'd rather it be pushed under the rug then editorialized and beaten to death for 3 days while I have to listen Skip Bayless and friends jaw about it.

Wanting to push things under the rug was David Stern's method for dealing with Donald Sterling.
Title: Re: A handful of Bruins fans are making Boston look racist and classless
Post by: Finkelskyhook on May 03, 2014, 12:46:03 PM
Does anyone know exactly how many of these tweets or what not actually happened? Like what percentage? And how many were tweeted by I guess the Tampa Bay fans (that's who the Canadiens beat last week, right?)

I read that there were 17,000 tweets referencing Subban and a slur, but that wasn't broken down by racist posts vs. people re-tweeting and condemning the racist posts.  (I wonder, if you retweet the n-word several times to condemn its use, is that counterproductive?)

It won't be broken down because what the result would completely defeat the narrative.
Title: Re: A handful of Bruins fans are making Boston look racist and classless
Post by: greg683x on May 03, 2014, 12:52:05 PM
Wish the team didn't release a statement. This wouldnt of been a 'thing' if they didnt. If PK scored in overtime against any other team in the NHL you'd get the same handful of comments on twitter.

Our governor is black, Boston isn't a particularly racist city.



(http://booksnobbery.files.wordpress.com/2014/03/wait-what-mal.gif?w=560)

Are you from Boston or do you live in Boston?

I lived in Boston for a time. I wasn't born there. 

Have you lived in enough cities to identify Boston as one that "isn't particularly racist"?

I currently live in Boston. Dorchester, Mass specifically for most of my childhood and part of my adult life. I've also lived in Texas, New Jersey, and New Hampshire for short periods of time.

And yes, I would say that Boston is just about the same as those places. Probably have seen more racism in Texas and New Hampshire than I have in Boston.

I think the point of him posting that animated gif has been lost.  Boston can be the most unracist city ever but using the black governor to get your point across was silly and in bad taste.  There must not be a lot of racism in america then, because Obama's our president.

Title: Re: A handful of Bruins fans are making Boston look racist and classless
Post by: LooseCannon on May 03, 2014, 12:52:11 PM
Does anyone know exactly how many of these tweets or what not actually happened? Like what percentage? And how many were tweeted by I guess the Tampa Bay fans (that's who the Canadiens beat last week, right?)

I read that there were 17,000 tweets referencing Subban and a slur, but that wasn't broken down by racist posts vs. people re-tweeting and condemning the racist posts.  (I wonder, if you retweet the n-word several times to condemn its use, is that counterproductive?)

It won't be broken down because what the result would completely defeat the narrative.

There are some people interested in defeating the narrative.  They can do their own data analysis and prove that the narrative is wrong.  Or they can do the data analysis and sit on the results if it proves the narrative is right.
Title: Re: A handful of Bruins fans are making Boston look racist and classless
Post by: D.o.s. on May 03, 2014, 01:22:42 PM
Wish the team didn't release a statement. This wouldnt of been a 'thing' if they didnt. If PK scored in overtime against any other team in the NHL you'd get the same handful of comments on twitter.

Our governor is black, Boston isn't a particularly racist city.



(http://booksnobbery.files.wordpress.com/2014/03/wait-what-mal.gif?w=560)

Are you from Boston or do you live in Boston?

I lived in Boston for a time. I wasn't born there. 

Have you lived in enough cities to identify Boston as one that "isn't particularly racist"?

I currently live in Boston. Dorchester, Mass specifically for most of my childhood and part of my adult life. I've also lived in Texas, New Jersey, and New Hampshire for short periods of time.

And yes, I would say that Boston is just about the same as those places. Probably have seen more racism in Texas and New Hampshire than I have in Boston.

I think the point of him posting that animated gif has been lost.  Boston can be the most unracist city ever but using the black governor to get your point across was silly and in bad taste.  There must not be a lot of racism in america then, because Obama's our president.

TP for getting it.