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Title: Celtics (23-50) at Bulls (41-32) Game #74 3/31/14
Post by: FLCeltsFan on March 30, 2014, 10:13:57 PM
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Boston Celtics (23-50) at Chicago Bulls (41-32)
Monday, March 31, 2014
8:00 PM ET
Game #74, Road Game #36
TV: CSNNE, CSN-Chicago, NBA-LP ?(DTV)/755(Xfinity)
Radio: WBZ, ESPN 1000
United Center

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Probable Starters
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PG: Jerryd Bayless................................................SG Avery Bradley
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C: Kris Humphries
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SF: Jeff Green ................................. ............PF Brandon Bass

Celtics Reserves
Joel Anthony
Chris Johnson
Phil Pressey
Chris Babb
Jared Sullinger
Kelly Olynyk

Injuries
Keith Bogans (personal) out
Vitor Faverani (knee) out
Gerald Wallace (knee) out
Rajon Rondo (rest/broadcasting career)  out

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Probable Starters
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PG: Kirk Hinrich ............................................. SG: Jimmy Butler
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C: Joakim Noah
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Bulls Reserves

Taj Gibson
Nazr Mohammed
DJ Augustin
Erik Murphy
Tony Snell
Jimmer Fredette
Tornike Shengelia

Injuries

Derrick Rose (knee) out

Game Notes
The Celtics travel to Chicago to take on the Bulls for the second straight night.  For the first time since 1978, the Celtics are completing their second straight home and home set.  They are coming off a 5 point loss at home to these same Bulls and will be looking for some revenge in this one. 

The Celtics will look a bit different in this game than they did in Sunday's game because Rajon Rondo is still sitting out the second of back to back games.  Instead, Rondo will be filling in for Tommy Heinsohn on the broadcasting team with Mike Gorman.  That might end up being a lot better than the game.  You should definitely tune in.  Jerryd Bayless will be starting at the point in his place. 

The Celtics have been playing hard and staying in games with a chance to win at the end but they just can't seem to go that little extra and get the end.  They have to clamp down on defense and get some stops at the end of games instead of allowing teams to go on a run to end the game. 

Key Matchups
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Kris Humphries vs Joakim Noah
The biggest task ahead of the Celtics when facing the Bulls is slowing down Joakim Noah. In their first meeting this season, Noah posted 17 points, 11 rebounds and 9 assists and came close to a triple double in Sunday's game. He is playing very good basketball and containing him will be crucial to getting a win in this game. Humphries did a good job while he was in the game but for some reason he wasn't on the court at the end of the game. 

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Jerryd Bayless vs DJ Augustin
Augustin had a career game on Sunday.  He scored 33 points on 14 shots.  Augustin comes off the bench and so he isn't actually matched up against Bayless.  He will be matched up against Bayless some of the time and against Bradley or Pressey some of the time.  Whoever is on the court must make an effort to slow this guy down. 

Keys to the Game
Defense- The Bulls shot 53% from the field and 50% from beyond the arc in Sunday's game.  The Celtics must do a better job of playing defense.  When you allow a team to shoot that high a percentage, it's tough to win. 

Rebound - The Celtics must continue to crash the boards as a team. Rebounding takes effort and the Celtics must be the team that wins the rebounding battle.  The Celtics out-rebounded the Bulls 39-31 on Sunday and they must put out and even better effort in this game. 

Set the Pace - The Celtics have to run on every possession. They need to move the ball up the court quickly and get easy shots before the Bulls tough defense gets set up.  Without Rondo in this one, it will be harder, but it may be the Celtics only hope. 

Be Aggressive - The Celtics must be the more aggressive team. They have to win the 50/50 balls and be aggressive in going to the hoop, rebounding, and defending. They have to be the team that wants it more.

Finish Strong
- The Celtics played hard and stayed with the Bulls throughout the game but just didn't have a finishing kick to get over the top.  This has happened too many times this season.  They are in the game with a chance to win right up until the end but just can't close it out.   Perhaps some of this is in the coach's decisions at the end.   In spite of his strong game, Kris Humphries wasn't on the court down the stretch.  The Celtics have to find a way to finish games strong and not allow teams to pull ahead at the end. 

X-Factors
Revenge and Pride
The Celtics are playing for pride and they will be looking to avenge Sunday's loss.  Will that be enough to help them pull out a win against a tough Chicago team?
Title: Re: Celtics (23-50) at Bulls (41-32) Game #74 3/31/14
Post by: ImShakHeIsShaq on March 30, 2014, 10:55:10 PM
TY FL. We win this one! Let's go!
Title: Re: Celtics (23-50) at Bulls (41-32) Game #74 3/31/14
Post by: FLCeltsFan on March 30, 2014, 11:00:59 PM
TP for first post in the thread!   Go Celtics!
Title: Re: Celtics (23-50) at Bulls (41-32) Game #74 3/31/14
Post by: ImShakHeIsShaq on March 30, 2014, 11:04:32 PM
Ty. I know you have us winning too. I just hope we come out hitting the Bulls the way they tossed us around tonight, just pushing us around without a care! We need to get someone to go in just for a hard foul... try Joel b/c Sully can't get another flagrant LOL.
Title: Re: Celtics (23-50) at Bulls (41-32) Game #74 3/31/14
Post by: D.o.s. on March 31, 2014, 07:27:21 PM
Time for the game almost.
Title: Re: Celtics (23-50) at Bulls (41-32) Game #74 3/31/14
Post by: Quetzalcoatl on March 31, 2014, 08:10:54 PM
Tommy needs to film some of these promos he's doing for Rondo for Jumbotron use.  They are too amazing and everyone would go nuts for him
Title: Re: Celtics (23-50) at Bulls (41-32) Game #74 3/31/14
Post by: hpantazo on March 31, 2014, 08:27:45 PM
Is Rondo doing color? How does he sounds so far?
Title: Re: Celtics (23-50) at Bulls (41-32) Game #74 3/31/14
Post by: Mr October on March 31, 2014, 08:30:15 PM
I missed most of the first, but this is fun having Rondo as part of the announcing team. This should happen more often with injured players, just on occasion.
Title: Re: Celtics (23-50) at Bulls (41-32) Game #74 3/31/14
Post by: Mr October on March 31, 2014, 08:34:56 PM
Is Rondo doing color? How does he sounds so far?

He's no Scal. But it's nice to hear him. Mike does a good job of asking him questions if Rondo gets too quiet. Nice compliments for Johnson just now.
Title: Re: Celtics (23-50) at Bulls (41-32) Game #74 3/31/14
Post by: Mr October on March 31, 2014, 08:37:15 PM
Rondo is sticking around for the second quarter.  :)

He was remarking how Johnson fit right in as a pro from day one. He is confident. Isn't afraid of tough defensive assignments.
Title: Re: Celtics (23-50) at Bulls (41-32) Game #74 3/31/14
Post by: Chief on March 31, 2014, 08:44:47 PM
A lot of awkward silence during tonight's commentary.
Title: Re: Celtics (23-50) at Bulls (41-32) Game #74 3/31/14
Post by: Mr October on March 31, 2014, 08:47:39 PM
A lot of awkward silence during tonight's commentary.

Yeah quite a lot. lol

The guys in Green look crisp tonight.
Title: Re: Celtics (23-50) at Bulls (41-32) Game #74 3/31/14
Post by: Chief on March 31, 2014, 08:48:39 PM
Hey Bass, box out !
Title: Re: Celtics (23-50) at Bulls (41-32) Game #74 3/31/14
Post by: Eja117 on March 31, 2014, 08:50:39 PM
Is Rondo doing color? How does he sounds so far?
Terrible actually
Title: Re: Celtics (23-50) at Bulls (41-32) Game #74 3/31/14
Post by: Eja117 on March 31, 2014, 08:51:56 PM
Rondo just said Jeff Green is the most athletic player on the team "by far" with Bass as 2nd. I think we can cut him off now. That's absurd. In a Hunger Games scenario Jeff Green never gets off his podium for lack of motivation.
Title: Re: Celtics (23-50) at Bulls (41-32) Game #74 3/31/14
Post by: Neurotic Guy on March 31, 2014, 08:57:35 PM
C's outplaying the Bulls in this quarter.  Hustle and defense.   
Title: Re: Celtics (23-50) at Bulls (41-32) Game #74 3/31/14
Post by: Chief on March 31, 2014, 08:57:49 PM
Bradley is starting to annoy me. Not that he shoots too much, but that he is really not that talented.
Title: Re: Celtics (23-50) at Bulls (41-32) Game #74 3/31/14
Post by: Mr October on March 31, 2014, 09:05:26 PM
Bradley is starting to annoy me. Not that he shoots too much, but that he is really not that talented.

Yeah. He has a really hard time dribbling the ball. This is his 4th year as a pro. How long do we play the potential card with him?

With a guard, you kind of know more or less what you have by the time they are in their 4th year. Bradley is good at defending point guards and smaller shooting guards. And he can hit long 2s pretty well. The shooting has yet to be seen in the pressure cooker of the playoffs.
Title: Re: Celtics (23-50) at Bulls (41-32) Game #74 3/31/14
Post by: slamtheking on March 31, 2014, 09:06:11 PM
amazed we're able to hang around with the Bulls.   lots of hustle the past couple of games. 

thought Noah was a really underrated player.  after seeing him these past couple of games without Rose, I'm even more impressed with how good he is.   

Title: Re: Celtics (23-50) at Bulls (41-32) Game #74 3/31/14
Post by: slamtheking on March 31, 2014, 09:06:54 PM
Bradley is starting to annoy me. Not that he shoots too much, but that he is really not that talented.

Yeah. He has a really hard time dribbling the ball. This is his 4th year as a pro. How long do we play the potential card with him?

With a guard, you kind of know more or less what you have by the time they are in their 4th year. Bradley is good at defending point guards and smaller shooting guards. And he can hit long 2s pretty well. The shooting has yet to be seen in the pressure cooker of the playoffs.

the 'potential' label came off after last year when he was mostly healthy. 
Title: Re: Celtics (23-50) at Bulls (41-32) Game #74 3/31/14
Post by: hpantazo on March 31, 2014, 09:10:54 PM
Bradley is starting to annoy me. Not that he shoots too much, but that he is really not that talented.

Yeah. He has a really hard time dribbling the ball. This is his 4th year as a pro. How long do we play the potential card with him?

With a guard, you kind of know more or less what you have by the time they are in their 4th year. Bradley is good at defending point guards and smaller shooting guards. And he can hit long 2s pretty well. The shooting has yet to be seen in the pressure cooker of the playoffs.

the 'potential' label came off after last year when he was mostly healthy.

we should have traded him last year
Title: Re: Celtics (23-50) at Bulls (41-32) Game #74 3/31/14
Post by: Chief on March 31, 2014, 09:17:48 PM
What did Max do the first half?
Title: Re: Celtics (23-50) at Bulls (41-32) Game #74 3/31/14
Post by: Eja117 on March 31, 2014, 09:22:35 PM
Bradley is starting to annoy me. Not that he shoots too much, but that he is really not that talented.
He's hurt....again
Title: Re: Celtics (23-50) at Bulls (41-32) Game #74 3/31/14
Post by: Chief on March 31, 2014, 09:23:41 PM
Bradley is starting to annoy me. Not that he shoots too much, but that he is really not that talented.
He's hurt....again

I don't give that guy more than 3 million a year.
Title: Re: Celtics (23-50) at Bulls (41-32) Game #74 3/31/14
Post by: Chief on March 31, 2014, 09:25:10 PM
Maybe Chris Babb will get some run.
Title: Re: Celtics (23-50) at Bulls (41-32) Game #74 3/31/14
Post by: D.o.s. on March 31, 2014, 09:26:50 PM
Bradley is starting to annoy me. Not that he shoots too much, but that he is really not that talented.

Yeah. He has a really hard time dribbling the ball. This is his 4th year as a pro. How long do we play the potential card with him?

With a guard, you kind of know more or less what you have by the time they are in their 4th year. Bradley is good at defending point guards and smaller shooting guards. And he can hit long 2s pretty well. The shooting has yet to be seen in the pressure cooker of the playoffs.

Or anywhere, except for one small flash in one season.

Bradley is starting to annoy me. Not that he shoots too much, but that he is really not that talented.
He's hurt....again

I don't give that guy more than 3 million a year.

Like it or not, I gotta side with Bill Russell on this one -- staying on the floor is part of how you have to measure the success of an athlete. I won't be unhappy when he's no longer our starting shooting guard.
Title: Re: Celtics (23-50) at Bulls (41-32) Game #74 3/31/14
Post by: Rondo9 on March 31, 2014, 09:31:45 PM
Bradley is starting to annoy me. Not that he shoots too much, but that he is really not that talented.

Yeah. He has a really hard time dribbling the ball. This is his 4th year as a pro. How long do we play the potential card with him?

With a guard, you kind of know more or less what you have by the time they are in their 4th year. Bradley is good at defending point guards and smaller shooting guards. And he can hit long 2s pretty well. The shooting has yet to be seen in the pressure cooker of the playoffs.

the 'potential' label came off after last year when he was mostly healthy.

Bradley is 23 years old and already an 2nd team all nba defender. While he still needs work his offense has improved and he's better suited in off the ball situations.
Title: Re: Celtics (23-50) at Bulls (41-32) Game #74 3/31/14
Post by: Chief on March 31, 2014, 09:37:27 PM
Why can't Bass be this aggressive in the post every night?


The answer. It's easier to pick and pop.
Title: Re: Celtics (23-50) at Bulls (41-32) Game #74 3/31/14
Post by: SHAQATTACK on March 31, 2014, 09:38:34 PM
No way the Bulls win this game
Title: Re: Celtics (23-50) at Bulls (41-32) Game #74 3/31/14
Post by: Rondo9 on March 31, 2014, 09:39:23 PM
Why can't Bass be this aggressive in the post every night?


The answer. It's easier to pick and pop.

And he's not really good in the post.
Title: Re: Celtics (23-50) at Bulls (41-32) Game #74 3/31/14
Post by: SHAQATTACK on March 31, 2014, 09:41:28 PM
Bass to the rescue
Title: Re: Celtics (23-50) at Bulls (41-32) Game #74 3/31/14
Post by: Chief on March 31, 2014, 09:42:22 PM
Why can't Bass be this aggressive in the post every night?


The answer. It's easier to pick and pop.

And he's not really good in the post.

He is worse at team defense and rebounding. And have we talked about his hands?
Title: Re: Celtics (23-50) at Bulls (41-32) Game #74 3/31/14
Post by: SHAQATTACK on March 31, 2014, 09:46:26 PM
Why can't Bass be this aggressive in the post every night?


The answer. It's easier to pick and pop.

And he's not really good in the post.

He is worse at team defense and rebounding. And have we talked about his hands?

Bass.....

Ol concrete mitts
Title: Re: Celtics (23-50) at Bulls (41-32) Game #74 3/31/14
Post by: Chief on March 31, 2014, 09:51:02 PM
Why can't Bass be this aggressive in the post every night?


The answer. It's easier to pick and pop.

And he's not really good in the post.

He is worse at team defense and rebounding. And have we talked about his hands?

Bass.....

Ol concrete mitts

Lol. TP!
Title: Re: Celtics (23-50) at Bulls (41-32) Game #74 3/31/14
Post by: Eja117 on March 31, 2014, 09:52:25 PM
Bradley is starting to annoy me. Not that he shoots too much, but that he is really not that talented.

Yeah. He has a really hard time dribbling the ball. This is his 4th year as a pro. How long do we play the potential card with him?

With a guard, you kind of know more or less what you have by the time they are in their 4th year. Bradley is good at defending point guards and smaller shooting guards. And he can hit long 2s pretty well. The shooting has yet to be seen in the pressure cooker of the playoffs.

the 'potential' label came off after last year when he was mostly healthy.

Bradley is 23 years old and already an 2nd team all nba defender. While he still needs work his offense has improved and he's better suited in off the ball situations.
When was the last time you saw Bradley play great, or even good, defense?
Title: Re: Celtics (23-50) at Bulls (41-32) Game #74 3/31/14
Post by: slamtheking on March 31, 2014, 09:56:30 PM
Bradley is starting to annoy me. Not that he shoots too much, but that he is really not that talented.

Yeah. He has a really hard time dribbling the ball. This is his 4th year as a pro. How long do we play the potential card with him?

With a guard, you kind of know more or less what you have by the time they are in their 4th year. Bradley is good at defending point guards and smaller shooting guards. And he can hit long 2s pretty well. The shooting has yet to be seen in the pressure cooker of the playoffs.

the 'potential' label came off after last year when he was mostly healthy.

Bradley is 23 years old and already an 2nd team all nba defender. While he still needs work his offense has improved and he's better suited in off the ball situations.
When was the last time you saw Bradley play great, or even good, defense?
for me, the proverbial bloom came off his rose when Felton torched him in the playoffs last year.  haven't seen anything this year close to the D he played when healthy his first 3 years.
Title: Re: Celtics (23-50) at Bulls (41-32) Game #74 3/31/14
Post by: Chief on March 31, 2014, 09:58:34 PM
Although I count 5 players on defense, it always seems the Celtics play 4 against 5.
Title: Re: Celtics (23-50) at Bulls (41-32) Game #74 3/31/14
Post by: Rondo9 on March 31, 2014, 09:58:58 PM
Bradley is starting to annoy me. Not that he shoots too much, but that he is really not that talented.

Yeah. He has a really hard time dribbling the ball. This is his 4th year as a pro. How long do we play the potential card with him?

With a guard, you kind of know more or less what you have by the time they are in their 4th year. Bradley is good at defending point guards and smaller shooting guards. And he can hit long 2s pretty well. The shooting has yet to be seen in the pressure cooker of the playoffs.

the 'potential' label came off after last year when he was mostly healthy.

Bradley is 23 years old and already an 2nd team all nba defender. While he still needs work his offense has improved and he's better suited in off the ball situations.
When was the last time you saw Bradley play great, or even good, defense?
for me, the proverbial bloom came off his rose when Felton torched him in the playoffs last year.  haven't seen anything this year close to the D he played when healthy his first 3 years.

Has Felton really torched him? Other than two 20 plus games (which were both losses) Felton was largely average. I think he's playing very good defense just that he's preserving himself on offense.
Title: Re: Celtics (23-50) at Bulls (41-32) Game #74 3/31/14
Post by: Mazingerz on March 31, 2014, 10:00:02 PM
Bradley is starting to annoy me. Not that he shoots too much, but that he is really not that talented.

Yeah. He has a really hard time dribbling the ball. This is his 4th year as a pro. How long do we play the potential card with him?

With a guard, you kind of know more or less what you have by the time they are in their 4th year. Bradley is good at defending point guards and smaller shooting guards. And he can hit long 2s pretty well. The shooting has yet to be seen in the pressure cooker of the playoffs.

the 'potential' label came off after last year when he was mostly healthy.

Bradley is 23 years old and already an 2nd team all nba defender. While he still needs work his offense has improved and he's better suited in off the ball situations.
When was the last time you saw Bradley play great, or even good, defense?
for me, the proverbial bloom came off his rose when Felton torched him in the playoffs last year.  haven't seen anything this year close to the D he played when healthy his first 3 years.

Has Felton really torched him? Other than two 20 plus games (which were both losses) Felton was largely average. I think he's playing very good defense just that he's preserving himself on offense.

Preserving his body for his CHUCKING SKILLS ON OFFENSE
Title: Re: Celtics (23-50) at Bulls (41-32) Game #74 3/31/14
Post by: Rondo9 on March 31, 2014, 10:05:19 PM
Bradley is starting to annoy me. Not that he shoots too much, but that he is really not that talented.

Yeah. He has a really hard time dribbling the ball. This is his 4th year as a pro. How long do we play the potential card with him?

With a guard, you kind of know more or less what you have by the time they are in their 4th year. Bradley is good at defending point guards and smaller shooting guards. And he can hit long 2s pretty well. The shooting has yet to be seen in the pressure cooker of the playoffs.

the 'potential' label came off after last year when he was mostly healthy.

Bradley is 23 years old and already an 2nd team all nba defender. While he still needs work his offense has improved and he's better suited in off the ball situations.
When was the last time you saw Bradley play great, or even good, defense?
for me, the proverbial bloom came off his rose when Felton torched him in the playoffs last year.  haven't seen anything this year close to the D he played when healthy his first 3 years.

Has Felton really torched him? Other than two 20 plus games (which were both losses) Felton was largely average. I think he's playing very good defense just that he's preserving himself on offense.

Preserving his body for his CHUCKING SKILLS ON OFFENSE

Well someone needs to pick up the scoring slack though I do wish he drive more often and get fouled. He got to work on his ball handling.
Title: Re: Celtics (23-50) at Bulls (41-32) Game #74 3/31/14
Post by: Chief on March 31, 2014, 10:05:25 PM
Bayless is all or nothing.
Title: Re: Celtics (23-50) at Bulls (41-32) Game #74 3/31/14
Post by: Eja117 on March 31, 2014, 10:10:05 PM
Bradley is starting to annoy me. Not that he shoots too much, but that he is really not that talented.

Yeah. He has a really hard time dribbling the ball. This is his 4th year as a pro. How long do we play the potential card with him?

With a guard, you kind of know more or less what you have by the time they are in their 4th year. Bradley is good at defending point guards and smaller shooting guards. And he can hit long 2s pretty well. The shooting has yet to be seen in the pressure cooker of the playoffs.

the 'potential' label came off after last year when he was mostly healthy.

Bradley is 23 years old and already an 2nd team all nba defender. While he still needs work his offense has improved and he's better suited in off the ball situations.
When was the last time you saw Bradley play great, or even good, defense?
for me, the proverbial bloom came off his rose when Felton torched him in the playoffs last year.  haven't seen anything this year close to the D he played when healthy his first 3 years.

Has Felton really torched him? Other than two 20 plus games (which were both losses) Felton was largely average. I think he's playing very good defense just that he's preserving himself on offense.

Preserving his body for his CHUCKING SKILLS ON OFFENSE

Well someone needs to pick up the scoring slack though I do wish he drive more often and get fouled. He got to work on his ball handling.
If he drove more he'd get hurt more, which hardly seems possible
Title: Re: Celtics (23-50) at Bulls (41-32) Game #74 3/31/14
Post by: D.o.s. on March 31, 2014, 10:13:14 PM
AH, that multiquote makes my eyes bleed.

Eja just made me spit my tea onto myself with that last one, though. TP.
Title: Re: Celtics (23-50) at Bulls (41-32) Game #74 3/31/14
Post by: SHAQATTACK on March 31, 2014, 10:16:03 PM
Goodnite to all

Tank s.   A lot
Title: Re: Celtics (23-50) at Bulls (41-32) Game #74 3/31/14
Post by: slamtheking on March 31, 2014, 10:33:59 PM
Bradley is starting to annoy me. Not that he shoots too much, but that he is really not that talented.

Yeah. He has a really hard time dribbling the ball. This is his 4th year as a pro. How long do we play the potential card with him?

With a guard, you kind of know more or less what you have by the time they are in their 4th year. Bradley is good at defending point guards and smaller shooting guards. And he can hit long 2s pretty well. The shooting has yet to be seen in the pressure cooker of the playoffs.

the 'potential' label came off after last year when he was mostly healthy.

Bradley is 23 years old and already an 2nd team all nba defender. While he still needs work his offense has improved and he's better suited in off the ball situations.
When was the last time you saw Bradley play great, or even good, defense?
for me, the proverbial bloom came off his rose when Felton torched him in the playoffs last year.  haven't seen anything this year close to the D he played when healthy his first 3 years.

Has Felton really torched him? Other than two 20 plus games (which were both losses) Felton was largely average. I think he's playing very good defense just that he's preserving himself on offense.
has he?  yes he did.  every game Felton did whatever he wanted.  scoring isn't everything a PG does.  Felton picked apart the C's defense by constantly driving by AB or passing with little hindrance from AB

Felton IS average, that's my point.  If AB played the level of D he's supposed to play, Felton doesn't have ANY 20 point games and more importantly, he doesn't carve up the D with his drives and passing
Title: Re: Celtics (23-50) at Bulls (41-32) Game #74 3/31/14
Post by: Rondo9 on March 31, 2014, 10:37:44 PM
Bradley is starting to annoy me. Not that he shoots too much, but that he is really not that talented.

Yeah. He has a really hard time dribbling the ball. This is his 4th year as a pro. How long do we play the potential card with him?

With a guard, you kind of know more or less what you have by the time they are in their 4th year. Bradley is good at defending point guards and smaller shooting guards. And he can hit long 2s pretty well. The shooting has yet to be seen in the pressure cooker of the playoffs.

the 'potential' label came off after last year when he was mostly healthy.

Bradley is 23 years old and already an 2nd team all nba defender. While he still needs work his offense has improved and he's better suited in off the ball situations.
When was the last time you saw Bradley play great, or even good, defense?
for me, the proverbial bloom came off his rose when Felton torched him in the playoffs last year.  haven't seen anything this year close to the D he played when healthy his first 3 years.

Has Felton really torched him? Other than two 20 plus games (which were both losses) Felton was largely average. I think he's playing very good defense just that he's preserving himself on offense.
has he?  yes he did.  every game Felton did whatever he wanted.  scoring isn't everything a PG does.  Felton picked apart the C's defense by constantly driving by AB or passing with little hindrance from AB

Felton IS average, that's my point.  If AB played the level of D he's supposed to play, Felton doesn't have ANY 20 point games and more importantly, he doesn't carve up the D with his drives and passing

Yet the Knicks shot a subpar percentage. Besides those twenty point games resulted in losses and the games the knicks did win, it had less to do with Felton than the Celtics woeful offense. Rondo was missed in that series.
Title: Re: Celtics (23-50) at Bulls (41-32) Game #74 3/31/14
Post by: DesertDweller on April 01, 2014, 01:12:56 AM
Here's what I hope happens just for the benefit of the slug tankers. we get one of the three best players in the lottery and the guy falls flat on his freakin' face and then all of the nobodys go on to get us in the playoffs because they no longer have to hear some idiot buzzing in their ear about tanking anymore!!!!!!!!!!
9 more games like this losing to a bunch of bottom feeders and none of these guys will have any morale left in them.
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