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Title: 2014 Pick 2: Interest Thread
Post by: AB_Celtic on February 22, 2014, 01:14:34 PM
It's time again for the CelticsBlog Pick 2 Draft!

The Pick 2 Draft, for those who are unfamiliar, is a fantasy basketball game. There are no winners and losers; it's supposed to be a laid-back and fun exercise.

In the first round of the draft, each GM selects an NBA franchise. You then pick two players from that franchise as "keepers." All subsequent rounds proceed as they would in a normal fantasy draft - in reverse, fixed order of the franchise selections - with each GM selecting one player. Last year, salaries counted and had to be taken into account when drafting. That could be an option again this year, but we'll likely let the people decide that.

Here's a link to last year's draft thread. Take a peek at it if you're still a little fuzzy on the details.
http://forums.celticsblog.com/index.php?topic=62814.0

And here's a link to some of the final rosters.
http://forums.celticsblog.com/index.php?topic=63242.0

This is just the interest thread. If you want to take part in the game this year, reply saying so. We're likely looking for at a minimum 20 GMs, but could go up to 30 if there's enough interest.

Again, this is a fun, relaxed game, so if you've been looking to get involved in some of the CelticsBlog drafts but have been intimidated, this is a great place to start! Additionally, some GMs in years past have worked together as co-GMs, so that option is available to you as well.

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LIKELY SCHEDULE

Friday, February 28 - Franchise and draft order announced

Monday, March 3 - First half of franchise round
Tuesday, March 4 - Second half of franchise round
Wednesday, March 5 - Round 1
Thursday, March 6 - Round 2
Friday, March 7 - Round 3

Monday, March 10 - Round 4
Tuesday, March 11 - Round 5
Wednesday, March 12 - Round 6
Thursday, March 13 - Rounds 7, 8
Friday, March 14 - Rounds 9, 10

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INTERESTED GMs
1. AB_Celtic
2. rondoallaturca
3. airbelinelli
4. BleedGreen1989
5. BigAlTheFuture
6. celticpride07
7. Who
8. Young Nick
9. fitzhickey
10. slamtheking
11. Yoki_isTheName
12. Evantime34
13. Merovech
14. nickagneta
15. Enzzo
16. pearljammer10
17. Moranis
18. Kobe2684
19. JBcat
20. foulweatherfan
Title: Re: 2014 Pick 2: Interest thread
Post by: rondoallaturca on February 22, 2014, 01:24:08 PM
Sure, why not? Sign me up!
Title: Re: 2014 Pick 2: Interest thread
Post by: airbelinelli on February 22, 2014, 01:25:40 PM
In.
Title: Re: 2014 Pick 2: Interest thread
Post by: indeedproceed on February 22, 2014, 01:31:35 PM
I'm not going to participate, but I will be monitoring the draft closely so I can take comments you guys say about my DKC guys and use them against you. Cheers, and hope this goes awesome!
Title: Re: 2014 Pick 2: Interest thread
Post by: BleedGreen1989 on February 22, 2014, 01:34:49 PM
I'm down with the get down
Title: Re: 2014 Pick 2: Interest thread
Post by: BigAlTheFuture on February 22, 2014, 01:36:29 PM
I'll play
Title: Re: 2014 Pick 2: Interest thread
Post by: celticpride07 on February 22, 2014, 02:01:50 PM
I'm interested
Title: Re: 2014 Pick 2: Interest thread
Post by: Lucky17 on February 22, 2014, 02:20:41 PM
I'm going to pass right now. But like IP, I'll lurk, and remember. I'll always remember.
Title: Re: 2014 Pick 2: Interest thread
Post by: Who on February 22, 2014, 02:26:09 PM
I'm interested too.
Title: Re: 2014 Pick 2: Interest thread
Post by: Young Nick on February 22, 2014, 02:39:41 PM
I am what one might describe as interested in participating in such a league.
Title: Re: 2014 Pick 2: Interest thread
Post by: AB_Celtic on February 22, 2014, 02:51:22 PM
Likely schedule:



Friday, February 28 - Franchise and draft order announced

Monday, March 3 - First half of franchise round
Tuesday, March 4 - Second half of franchise round
Wednesday, March 5 - Round 1
Thursday, March 6 - Round 2
Friday, March 7 - Round 3

Monday, March 10 - Round 4
Tuesday, March 11 - Round 5
Wednesday, March 12 - Round 6
Thursday, March 13 - Rounds 7, 8
Friday, March 14 - Rounds 9, 10
Title: Re: 2014 Pick 2: Interest thread
Post by: fitzhickey on February 22, 2014, 07:16:39 PM
Sign me up!
Title: Re: 2014 Pick 2: Interest thread
Post by: slamtheking on February 22, 2014, 08:52:36 PM
I'm in == always a great time.
Title: Re: 2014 Pick 2: Interest thread
Post by: RebusRankin on February 22, 2014, 11:20:47 PM
Going to have to pass. Will watch and remember as IP and Lucky have stated.
Title: Re: 2014 Pick 2: Interest thread
Post by: BleedGreen1989 on February 23, 2014, 07:16:33 AM
Would be nice to have some non-DKC GM's in here
Title: Re: 2014 Pick 2: Interest thread
Post by: JBcat on February 23, 2014, 09:54:46 AM
Would love to but unfortunately work will get in the way during the day for the draft.  Lol
Title: Re: 2014 Pick 2: Interest thread
Post by: BigAlTheFuture on February 23, 2014, 02:18:20 PM
Would love to but unfortunately work will get in the way during the day for the draft.  Lol

You can leave a list for someone and they can make a selection for you.
Title: Re: 2014 Pick 2: Interest thread
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on February 23, 2014, 04:11:27 PM
Would love to join if there's room.
Title: Re: 2014 Pick 2: Interest thread
Post by: BleedGreen1989 on February 24, 2014, 09:53:34 AM
Bump
Title: Re: 2014 Pick 2: Interest thread
Post by: slamtheking on February 24, 2014, 11:22:26 AM
Would love to but unfortunately work will get in the way during the day for the draft.  Lol

You can leave a list for someone and they can make a selection for you.
that's definitely a necessity.  have been able to work with the mods to pick early or late based on my work schedule as well.  hoping that's the case this time around as well
Title: Re: 2014 Pick 2: Interest thread
Post by: Evantime34 on February 24, 2014, 11:33:42 AM
I would join.
Title: Re: 2014 Pick 2: Interest thread
Post by: AB_Celtic on February 24, 2014, 12:29:30 PM
Would love to but unfortunately work will get in the way during the day for the draft.  Lol

You can leave a list for someone and they can make a selection for you.
that's definitely a necessity.  have been able to work with the mods to pick early or late based on my work schedule as well.  hoping that's the case this time around as well

I should be able to take lists if nobody else can, and if it means that more people can sign up. We need at least 20 GMs for this to be realistic.
Title: Re: 2014 Pick 2: Interest thread
Post by: fitzhickey on February 24, 2014, 03:31:13 PM
Bump.
Title: Re: 2014 Pick 2: Interest thread
Post by: KGs Knee on February 24, 2014, 05:33:39 PM
I'll be interested to see if enough interest is garnered to make this feasible.

I'd rather pass myself, but could probably pull it off if it comes down to a numbers game and my playing allowed it to proceed.
Title: Re: 2014 Pick 2: Interest thread
Post by: AB_Celtic on February 24, 2014, 09:19:00 PM
Need more GMs! Sign up!
Title: Re: 2014 Pick 2: Interest thread
Post by: BleedGreen1989 on February 25, 2014, 09:45:30 AM
Bump
Title: Re: 2014 Pick 2: Interest thread
Post by: Roy H. on February 25, 2014, 09:48:56 AM
I will help out a bit, and am always around for advice, but I won't be able to participate this year.

If anybody is on the fence, I'll say that this is my favorite of the "drafts", just because it's the most chill.  No competition, very little criticism (constructive or otherwise)...  just put together a team and talk about it.
Title: Re: 2014 Pick 2: Interest thread
Post by: AB_Celtic on February 25, 2014, 10:44:45 AM
Bump
Title: Re: 2014 Pick 2: Interest thread
Post by: Merovech on February 26, 2014, 10:27:18 AM
It's been a while, but I'm back and I need to redeem picking Mo Williams and ruining my great late round steals.
Title: Re: 2014 Pick 2: Interest thread
Post by: BigAlTheFuture on February 26, 2014, 11:28:17 AM
It's been a while, but I'm back and I need to redeem picking Mo Williams and ruining my great late round steals.

Nice.
Title: Re: 2014 Pick 2: Interest thread
Post by: fitzhickey on February 26, 2014, 03:35:08 PM
C'mon guys...
Title: Re: 2014 Pick 2: Interest thread
Post by: Roy H. on February 26, 2014, 03:41:32 PM
You guys can always modify the rules, to have GMs pick two teams, and pick one player from each team.  Or, pick two players from the two teams.  Or however you want to run it.

It's an off year; experiment!
Title: Re: 2014 Pick 2: Interest thread. NEED GMs!!! SIGN UP!!! ADVENTURE!!!
Post by: AB_Celtic on February 26, 2014, 03:55:42 PM
Bump; this is a ton of fun. If you're on the fence, sign up. You won't regret it!
Title: Re: 2014 Pick 2: Interest thread. NEED GMs!!! SIGN UP!!! ADVENTURE!!!
Post by: Merovech on February 26, 2014, 03:57:13 PM
Bump; this is a ton of fun. If you're on the fence, sign up. You won't regret it!

It really is.
Title: Re: 2014 Pick 2: Interest thread. NEED GMs!!! SIGN UP!!! ADVENTURE!!!
Post by: BigAlTheFuture on February 26, 2014, 03:59:17 PM
Pretty surprised this hasn't gotten more interest. Spots filled up fast previous years.
Title: Re: 2014 Pick 2: Interest thread. NEED GMs!!! SIGN UP!!! ADVENTURE!!!
Post by: indeedproceed on February 26, 2014, 04:00:47 PM
Bitin' my style with the title. I like it.
Title: Re: 2014 Pick 2: Interest thread. NEED GMs!!! SIGN UP!!! ADVENTURE!!!
Post by: OTART SRIEN on February 26, 2014, 04:49:51 PM
Cheers Governors!

I'd love to try my hand in one of your drafting competitions if you'll have me. Would be a real treat to be able to run my own basketball club.
Title: Re: 2014 Pick 2: Interest thread. NEED GMs!!! SIGN UP!!! ADVENTURE!!!
Post by: nickagneta on February 26, 2014, 05:14:52 PM
I'll play if you guys have a commish to run it and need more GMs
Title: Re: 2014 Pick 2: Interest thread. NEED GMs!!! SIGN UP!!! ADVENTURE!!!
Post by: AB_Celtic on February 26, 2014, 09:04:33 PM
Cheers Governors!

I'd love to try my hand in one of your drafting competitions if you'll have me. Would be a real treat to be able to run my own basketball club.

Not sure if SeriOus.
Title: Re: 2014 Pick 2: Interest thread
Post by: slamtheking on February 26, 2014, 09:32:57 PM
You guys can always modify the rules, to have GMs pick two teams, and pick one player from each team.  Or, pick two players from the two teams.  Or however you want to run it.

It's an off year; experiment!
unless I win, in that case, it was anything but an 'off' year  ;D
Title: Re: 2014 Pick 2: Interest thread. NEED GMs!!! SIGN UP!!! ADVENTURE!!!
Post by: AB_Celtic on February 27, 2014, 11:03:10 AM
Due to lack of interest, we're going to push back the draft a week. If enough people haven't signed up by then, we'll modify the rules.
Title: Re: 2014 Pick 2: Interest thread. NEED GMs!!! SIGN UP!!! ADVENTURE!!!
Post by: Enzzo on February 27, 2014, 11:22:44 AM
I'll join. Are contracts and salaries involved or is it just pick a player?
Title: Re: 2014 Pick 2: Interest thread. NEED GMs!!! SIGN UP!!! ADVENTURE!!!
Post by: BleedGreen1989 on February 27, 2014, 12:10:21 PM
I'll join. Are contracts and salaries involved or is it just pick a player?

Still up in the air.

We did salaries last year and I personally like the aspect of the numbers game, but it's traditionally done without salaries.
Title: Re: 2014 Pick 2: Interest thread. NEED GMs!!! SIGN UP!!! ADVENTURE!!!
Post by: rondoallaturca on February 27, 2014, 12:16:11 PM
If we're hard-pressed for more participants, why don't we stop at 15 GMs and let everyone manage two teams?
Title: Re: 2014 Pick 2: Interest thread. NEED GMs!!! SIGN UP!!! ADVENTURE!!!
Post by: slamtheking on February 27, 2014, 12:29:43 PM
preferred the no-salary version to simply develop the best team.

Also, if we're going with a 2-team approach, we should probably consider a rule about trading between the teams managed by one person.  I could see some lopsided deals happening where 1 of the teams is loaded and the other one is making the current Sixers look like all-stars
Title: Re: 2014 Pick 2: Interest thread. NEED GMs!!! SIGN UP!!! ADVENTURE!!!
Post by: AB_Celtic on February 27, 2014, 12:36:58 PM
Definitely no trading between one's two teams.

However, if we can get to 20 teams today, I think that's enough GMs to do one team per GM. We'll give it a little more time.

Also, I'm happy to assume the role of Commissioner, but we'll need at least one more to process any trades that I might make.
Title: Re: 2014 Pick 2: Interest thread. NEED GMs!!! SIGN UP!!! ADVENTURE!!!
Post by: Merovech on February 27, 2014, 01:15:21 PM
I'd prefer no or little consideration to salaries.
Title: Re: 2014 Pick 2: Interest thread. NEED GMs!!! SIGN UP!!! ADVENTURE!!!
Post by: pearljammer10 on February 27, 2014, 01:18:36 PM
If there's room I'll partake even though it seems DKC heavy already. I'll give it a whirl.
Title: Re: 2014 Pick 2: Interest thread. NEED GMs!!! SIGN UP!!! ADVENTURE!!!
Post by: BigAlTheFuture on February 27, 2014, 01:20:38 PM
I'd prefer no or little consideration to salaries.

Same.
Title: Re: 2014 Pick 2: Interest thread. ONLY NEED 4 MORE GMs!!! SIGN UP!!!
Post by: Moranis on February 27, 2014, 02:28:52 PM
I suppose I can join though I'm not sure how much time I will have, but AB has offered to take a list if necessary.
Title: Re: 2014 Pick 2: Interest thread. ONLY NEED 3 MORE GMs!!! SIGN UP!!!
Post by: Kobe2684 on February 27, 2014, 02:51:09 PM
AB, I am happy to join as a GM
Title: Re: 2014 Pick 2: Interest thread. ONLY NEED 2 MORE GMs!!! SIGN UP!!!
Post by: AB_Celtic on February 27, 2014, 03:38:39 PM
Two more, guys! We'll announce the draft order tomorrow if we have 20 by then.
Title: Re: 2014 Pick 2: Interest thread. ONLY NEED 2 MORE GMs!!! SIGN UP!!!
Post by: BleedGreen1989 on February 27, 2014, 03:49:30 PM
Two more, guys! We'll announce the draft order tomorrow if we have 20 by then.

I made a post over on RealGM's Celtic board.

It's very active and some good people over there.
Title: Re: 2014 Pick 2: Interest thread. ONLY NEED 2 MORE GMs!!! SIGN UP!!!
Post by: indeedproceed on February 27, 2014, 03:54:41 PM
Two more, guys! We'll announce the draft order tomorrow if we have 20 by then.

I made a post over on RealGM's Celtic board.

It's very active and some good people over there.

Bangarang, Peter! We've never tried that one before.
Title: Re: 2014 Pick 2: Interest thread. ONLY NEED 2 MORE GMs!!! SIGN UP!!!
Post by: AB_Celtic on February 27, 2014, 03:59:23 PM
Here's an interesting rule change that I want to hear some feedback on.

If a team does not get selected in the Franchise round, then none of the players on that team are eligible for later rounds. Thoughts?

Looking like we won't do salaries, though.
Title: Re: 2014 Pick 2: Interest thread. ONLY NEED 2 MORE GMs!!! SIGN UP!!!
Post by: Moranis on February 27, 2014, 04:04:12 PM
Here's an interesting rule change that I want to hear some feedback on.

If a team does not get selected in the Franchise round, then none of the players on that team are eligible for later rounds. Thoughts?

Looking like we won't do salaries, though.
I think you have to do that otherwise some of the teams might be quite stacked.
Title: Re: 2014 Pick 2: Interest thread. ONLY NEED 2 MORE GMs!!! SIGN UP!!!
Post by: BigAlTheFuture on February 27, 2014, 04:04:42 PM
Here's an interesting rule change that I want to hear some feedback on.

If a team does not get selected in the Franchise round, then none of the players on that team are eligible for later rounds. Thoughts?

Looking like we won't do salaries, though.

If we have 20 GMs. That's 10 teams that won't get picked. Lets say each team has 12 players, that's 120 players that would be ineligible. I don't think I like that idea. I think the players that are on teams that didn't get pick should all be available for the player's draft.
Title: Re: 2014 Pick 2: Interest thread. ONLY NEED 2 MORE GMs!!! SIGN UP!!!
Post by: Roy H. on February 27, 2014, 04:09:38 PM
Here's an interesting rule change that I want to hear some feedback on.

If a team does not get selected in the Franchise round, then none of the players on that team are eligible for later rounds. Thoughts?

Looking like we won't do salaries, though.

If we have 20 GMs. That's 10 teams that won't get picked. Lets say each team has 12 players, that's 120 players that would be ineligible. I don't think I like that idea. I think the players that are on teams that didn't get pick should all be available for the player's draft.

I'm not a huge fan, either, just because it takes a lot of interesting players out of the mix.  The better the players available, the more interest there will be in later rounds, etc. 

That's just my suggestion, though; you guys are in charge.
Title: Re: 2014 Pick 2: Interest thread
Post by: JBcat on February 27, 2014, 04:57:58 PM
Would love to but unfortunately work will get in the way during the day for the draft.  Lol

You can leave a list for someone and they can make a selection for you.

If someone can actually do this for me I'm in and put my list together tonight.
Title: Re: 2014 Pick 2: Interest thread
Post by: AB_Celtic on February 27, 2014, 05:11:35 PM
Would love to but unfortunately work will get in the way during the day for the draft.  Lol

You can leave a list for someone and they can make a selection for you.

If someone can actually do this for me I'm in and put my list together tonight.

At the very least, I'll be able to take lists for select times, and I'm sure others are willing to help out too.
Title: Re: 2014 Pick 2: Interest thread. ONLY NEED 1 MORE GM!!! SIGN UP!!!
Post by: fitzhickey on February 27, 2014, 05:48:51 PM
Join everyone!
Title: Re: 2014 Pick 2: Interest thread. ONLY NEED 2 MORE GMs!!! SIGN UP!!!
Post by: Merovech on February 27, 2014, 07:10:46 PM
Here's an interesting rule change that I want to hear some feedback on.

If a team does not get selected in the Franchise round, then none of the players on that team are eligible for later rounds. Thoughts?

Looking like we won't do salaries, though.

Not a fan of this idea.
Title: Re: 2014 Pick 2: Interest thread. ONLY NEED 1 MORE GM!!! SIGN UP!!!
Post by: AB_Celtic on February 27, 2014, 07:52:12 PM
Still need one more GM
Title: Re: 2014 Pick 2: Interest thread. ONLY NEED 1 MORE GM!!! SIGN UP!!!
Post by: fairweatherfan on February 27, 2014, 07:55:55 PM
Fine, I'll do it. 
Title: Re: 2014 Pick 2: Interest thread. ONLY NEED 1 MORE GM!!! SIGN UP!!!
Post by: AB_Celtic on February 27, 2014, 08:00:01 PM
Fine, I'll do it.

< thumbs up >
Title: Re: 2014 Pick 2: Interest thread. SIGNUP DEADLINE MIDNIGHT EST
Post by: AB_Celtic on February 27, 2014, 08:14:55 PM
Alright, the game is on. I'll allow people to join until midnight tonight, but after that I'm closing the signup and determining the draft order.

This weekend will be a good time to discuss rules and such.
Title: Re: 2014 Pick 2: Interest thread. ONLY NEED 1 MORE GM!!! SIGN UP!!!
Post by: fairweatherfan on February 27, 2014, 09:50:51 PM
Fine, I'll do it.

< thumbs up >

Just when I think I'm out, they PULL ME BACK IN!!

...it is a really fun game though.  Join up!
Title: Re: 2014 Pick 2: Interest thread. ONLY NEED 1 MORE GM!!! SIGN UP!!!
Post by: nickagneta on February 28, 2014, 08:57:18 AM
Fine, I'll do it.

< thumbs up >

Just when I think I'm out, they PULL ME BACK IN!!

...it is a really fun game though.  Join up!
I know how you feel big man.
Title: Re: 2014 Pick 2: Interest thread. SIGNUP DEADLINE MIDNIGHT EST
Post by: BleedGreen1989 on February 28, 2014, 09:10:24 AM
I've agreed to be a commish, but I think AB and I would like a 3rd possibly.

Between school and work, there's going to be times I'll have no access to a computer but I'll gladly assist people when I'm on.
Title: Re: 2014 Pick 2: Interest thread. SIGNUP DEADLINE MIDNIGHT EST
Post by: KGs Knee on February 28, 2014, 09:14:22 AM
I've agreed to be a commish, but I think AB and I would like a 3rd possibly.

Between school and work, there's going to be times I'll have no access to a computer but I'll gladly assist people when I'm on.

sent AB a pm earlier...

although I got the same school/work issue  (I do work nights so maybe that will help)
Title: Re: 2014 Pick 2: Interest thread. ONLY NEED 2 MORE GMs!!! SIGN UP!!!
Post by: Moranis on February 28, 2014, 09:31:59 AM
Here's an interesting rule change that I want to hear some feedback on.

If a team does not get selected in the Franchise round, then none of the players on that team are eligible for later rounds. Thoughts?

Looking like we won't do salaries, though.

If we have 20 GMs. That's 10 teams that won't get picked. Lets say each team has 12 players, that's 120 players that would be ineligible. I don't think I like that idea. I think the players that are on teams that didn't get pick should all be available for the player's draft.

I'm not a huge fan, either, just because it takes a lot of interesting players out of the mix.  The better the players available, the more interest there will be in later rounds, etc. 

That's just my suggestion, though; you guys are in charge.
I certainly see that, but it does sort of almost weight it better to be one of the last team selections as you will get two #1's and a #2 (I mean after OKC, HOU, and MIA - in no particular order - there aren't any other teams that have two #1 type players unless you also get the #1 from another team).
Title: Re: 2014 Pick 2: Interest thread. SIGNUP DEADLINE MIDNIGHT EST
Post by: Moranis on February 28, 2014, 09:33:39 AM
The one question I have is, how are injured players treated?  For example, would I want Rose on my team even though he isn't going to play again this year?  Will people still consider him a near MVP player or a guy that isn't even on a roster?
Title: Re: 2014 Pick 2: Interest thread. SIGNUP DEADLINE MIDNIGHT EST
Post by: BleedGreen1989 on February 28, 2014, 09:37:55 AM
The one question I have is, how are injured players treated?  For example, would I want Rose on my team even though he isn't going to play again this year?  Will people still consider him a near MVP player or a guy that isn't even on a roster?

This varies.

I tend to think (significantly) injured players should be looked at as such.

A healthy Rose is likely a top-10 pick, but right now it's tough to argue that he can lead your team.
Title: Re: 2014 Pick 2: Interest thread. ONLY NEED 2 MORE GMs!!! SIGN UP!!!
Post by: slamtheking on February 28, 2014, 10:06:24 AM
Here's an interesting rule change that I want to hear some feedback on.

If a team does not get selected in the Franchise round, then none of the players on that team are eligible for later rounds. Thoughts?

Looking like we won't do salaries, though.

If we have 20 GMs. That's 10 teams that won't get picked. Lets say each team has 12 players, that's 120 players that would be ineligible. I don't think I like that idea. I think the players that are on teams that didn't get pick should all be available for the player's draft.

I'm not a huge fan, either, just because it takes a lot of interesting players out of the mix.  The better the players available, the more interest there will be in later rounds, etc. 

That's just my suggestion, though; you guys are in charge.
agreed.  all players should be available, including injured.  if someone doesn't take Chicago but someone wants to take Rose to build a team for the future, let them.
Title: Re: 2014 Pick 2: Interest thread. SIGNUP DEADLINE MIDNIGHT EST
Post by: Merovech on February 28, 2014, 01:11:07 PM
The one question I have is, how are injured players treated?  For example, would I want Rose on my team even though he isn't going to play again this year?  Will people still consider him a near MVP player or a guy that isn't even on a roster?

He doesn't play this year but is a great asset for the future.