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Title: Spurs (37-15) at Celtics (19-34) Game #54 2/12/14
Post by: FLCeltsFan on February 11, 2014, 09:28:56 PM
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San Antonio Spurs (37-15) at Boston Celtics (19-34)
Wednesday, February 12, 2014
7:30 PM ET
Regular Season Game #54 Home Game #28
TV: CSN-NE, FSSW, NBA-LP 755(DTV)/756(Xfinity)
Radio: WBZ, WOAI
TD Garden

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(http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/.element/img/2.0/sect/basketball/nba/teampages/toppers/celtics_514x96.jpg)
PG(http://assets.espn.go.com/i/nba/profiles/players/65x90/4149.jpg)SG(http://www.nba.com/media/playerfile/gerald_wallace.jpg)SF(http://www.nba.com/media/playerfile/jeff_green.jpg)PF(http://www.nba.com/media/playerfile/brandon_bass.jpg)C(http://www.nba.com/media/playerfile/jared_sullinger.jpg)
Probable Starters
PG: Rajon Rondo
SG: Gerald Wallace
SF: Jeff Green
PF: Brandon Bass
C: Jared Sullinger

Celtics Reserves

Kelly Olynyk
Jerryd Bayless
Joel Anthony
Chris Johnson
Kris Humphries

Injuries
Keith Bogans (personal) out
Vitor Faverani (knee) day to day
Avery Bradley (ankle) day to day
Brandon Bass (eye)  day to day

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(http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/.element/img/2.0/sect/basketball/nba/teampages/toppers/spurs_514x96.jpg)
Probable Starters
PG(http://www.nba.com/media/playerfile/nando_de_colo.jpg)SG(http://www.nba.com/media/playerfile/marco_belinelli.jpg)SF(http://www.nba.com/media/playerfile/danny_green.jpg)PF(http://www.nba.com/media/playerfile/tim_duncan.jpg)C(http://www.nba.com/media/playerfile/boris_diaw.jpg)
PG: Nando DeColo
SG: Marco Belinelli
SF: Danny Green
PF: Tim Duncan
C: Boris Diaw

Spurs Reserves
Matt Bonner
Jeff Ayres
Cory Joseph
Aron Baynes

Injuries
Tiago Splitter (shin) out
Manu Ginobili (hamstring) out
Kawhi Leonard  (hand)  out
Tony Parker (back) out
Patrick Mills  (ankle) questionable

Game Notes

The Spurs visit the Celtics for their second and final meeting this season and their final game before the All Star break.  The Spurs won their first meeting 104-93 in Boston and the Celtics will be looking for some payback in this one. 

The Spurs have won 5 straight against the Celtics.  Both teams are 5-5 in their last 10 games.  The Celtics are 11-16 at home while the Spurs are 19-7 on the road.   

The Spurs are coming off a loss to the Pistons and have won 4 of their last 6 games.  The Celtics, after winning just 3 out of 19 games, have won 4 of their last 5 games.  They are coming off a win over the Bucks.

The Spurs have been battling injury problems and come into this game short handed with 3 players out and 2 more questionable.  The Celtics may be a little short handed themselves with Bass and Bradley both day to day  Rondo is expected back in the lineup after missing the last game for precautionary reasons because the games were back to back.

It appears that Parker will sit this one out and looking at their depth chart, I'm going to guess that they will start DeColo and Bellinelli in the back court.   

Key Matchups
(http://i.cdn.turner.com/nba/nba/media/act_brandon_bass.jpg)vs(http://www.nba.com/media/act_tim_duncan.jpg)
Brandon Bass vs Tim Duncan
If Brandon Bass can play in this game, he will have his hands full in this matchup. Duncan still brings a lot to the table, especially defensively. Duncan is averaging 15.4 points 10.0 rebounds and 2.08 blocks per game.  He is great at getting position for rebounds and tip ins and Bass and the other Celtics bigs need to concentrate on keeping him away from the basket.

(http://www.nba.com/media/act_jared_sullinger.jpg)vs(http://www.nba.com/media/act_boris_diaw.jpg)
Jared Sullinger vs Boris Diaw
With so many out for the Spurs, it's hard to tell who will be starting where.  Regardless of who starts for the Spurs, though, Jared Sullinger is going to be key for the Celtics no matter who he is matched up with.

Keys to the Game
Play 48 Minutes - The Celtics tend to have periods in the game where they can't make snots, let up on defense and turn the ball over.  They have to find a way to be more consistent and play strong for all 48 minutes. 

Rebound - Much of rebounding is effort and desire. The Celtics need to do both if they hope to beat a tough Spurs team and they will need to crash the boards to prevent second chance and fast break points from the Spurs.

Be Aggressive - The Celtics must be aggressive in going after loose balls, taking the ball to the hoop and playing in your face defense. When they get lazy and allow teams to beat them to loose balls and rebounds and when they settle for jumpers and don't go to the basket, they are very beatable. They have to be the more aggressive team from the opening tip to the final buzzer.

Run, Run, Run - The Celtics are not a great half court team. They have to run in order to get easy opportunities before the defenses set up, especially against a good defensive team like the Spurs. They need to run on every possession and take advantage of the Spurs age and injuries.

X-Factors
Injuries and Looking Ahead
Once again, injuries and who is not on the court could affect the outcome of this game.  Also, with the All Star break after this game, they may get caught looking ahead and not concentrating on this game.   
Title: Re: Spurs (37-15) at Celtics (19-34) Game #54 2/12/14
Post by: j804 on February 11, 2014, 10:02:10 PM
TP FL

Rondo gets up for this game and we win by 10. Tankers cry.
Title: Re: Spurs (37-15) at Celtics (19-34) Game #54 2/12/14
Post by: Clench123 on February 11, 2014, 10:16:40 PM
I have a feeling we might pull off a win in this one but I'm hoping NOT.
Title: Re: Spurs (37-15) at Celtics (19-34) Game #54 2/12/14
Post by: Fafnir on February 11, 2014, 11:19:23 PM
Spurs have been running over bad teams all season, so I'm not optimistic about this game.
Title: Re: Spurs (37-15) at Celtics (19-34) Game #54 2/12/14
Post by: SHAQATTACK on February 12, 2014, 12:04:51 AM
I think we have a decent chance to will win a game here we really shouldn't. .


I think they will overlook the lowly Celtics and get beat.
Title: Re: Spurs (37-15) at Celtics (19-34) Game #54 2/12/14
Post by: SparzWizard on February 12, 2014, 12:19:57 AM
121-88

Spurs tear the Celtics apart. Tankers rejoice!
Title: Re: Spurs (37-15) at Celtics (19-34) Game #54 2/12/14
Post by: D.o.s. on February 12, 2014, 12:45:47 AM
Per the NBA tv ticker during the Blazers/Thunder game, Tony Parker's sitting out this one.
Title: Re: Spurs (37-15) at Celtics (19-34) Game #54 2/12/14
Post by: LatterDayCelticsfan on February 12, 2014, 11:31:14 AM
As for My BOLD PREDICTIONS. Jared Sullinger grabs his 1st triple double. Jeff Green gets 10 rebounds, 5 steals and 5 blocks, while Brad Stevens gets a beer from Greg Poppovitch
Title: Re: Spurs (37-15) at Celtics (19-34) Game #54 2/12/14
Post by: SHAQATTACK on February 12, 2014, 07:13:33 PM
We are doomed to lose this game without Brandon Bass
Title: Re: Spurs (37-15) at Celtics (19-34) Game #54 2/12/14
Post by: ImShakHeIsShaq on February 12, 2014, 07:21:35 PM
We are doomed to lose this game without Brandon Bass

Bass is out?
Title: Re: Spurs (37-15) at Celtics (19-34) Game #54 2/12/14
Post by: Nerf DPOY on February 12, 2014, 07:27:26 PM
Anybody else hear Tommy in the pre-game say something to the effect of  "All these people sitting in their living rooms talking about trading guys like they're playing Monopoly....and then our friends in the media drumming up these trades to get people to call in their crappy talk shows....Jeff Green is a good player!!...."

I didn't get it word for word but it was my favorite pre-game moment in recent memory.
Title: Re: Spurs (37-15) at Celtics (19-34) Game #54 2/12/14
Post by: SHAQATTACK on February 12, 2014, 07:28:31 PM
We are doomed to lose this game without Brandon Bass

Bass is out?

Thought I read that somewhere ...?
Title: Re: Spurs (37-15) at Celtics (19-34) Game #54 2/12/14
Post by: ImShakHeIsShaq on February 12, 2014, 07:33:46 PM
Anybody else hear Tommy in the pre-game say something to the effect of  "All these people sitting in their living rooms talking about trading guys like they're playing Monopoly....and then our friends in the media drumming up these trades to get people to call in their crappy talk shows....Jeff Green is a good player!!...."

I didn't get it word for word but it was my favorite pre-game moment in recent memory.

No but I feel Tommy on that.
Title: Re: Spurs (37-15) at Celtics (19-34) Game #54 2/12/14
Post by: SCeltic34 on February 12, 2014, 07:42:33 PM
Bass gets abused twice in a row by Diaw.
Title: Re: Spurs (37-15) at Celtics (19-34) Game #54 2/12/14
Post by: hwangjini_1 on February 12, 2014, 07:43:54 PM
looks like a good game to watch "the kids develop."  ;D

regardless..... goooooo celtics!!!
Title: Re: Spurs (37-15) at Celtics (19-34) Game #54 2/12/14
Post by: Chief on February 12, 2014, 07:45:42 PM
You can't have Rondo and Wallace on the court together.
Title: Re: Spurs (37-15) at Celtics (19-34) Game #54 2/12/14
Post by: nickagneta on February 12, 2014, 07:48:49 PM
It would be nice if Sully could put in some of these offensive rebound bunnies he has gotten.
Title: Re: Spurs (37-15) at Celtics (19-34) Game #54 2/12/14
Post by: Tr1boy on February 12, 2014, 07:52:16 PM
You can't have Rondo and Wallace on the court together.

yup.
Title: Re: Spurs (37-15) at Celtics (19-34) Game #54 2/12/14
Post by: manl_lui on February 12, 2014, 07:52:33 PM
o wow, that Rondo 3 pointer this year
Title: Re: Spurs (37-15) at Celtics (19-34) Game #54 2/12/14
Post by: Boston Garden Leprechaun on February 12, 2014, 07:53:07 PM
You can't have Rondo and Wallace on the court together.

we don't need wallace on the court at all.
Title: Re: Spurs (37-15) at Celtics (19-34) Game #54 2/12/14
Post by: Vox_Populi on February 12, 2014, 07:53:43 PM
If Rondo can even hit the corner 3 at a high percentage, a la Parker, I would take it.

Although I'll take 3s from anywhere.  :)
Title: Re: Spurs (37-15) at Celtics (19-34) Game #54 2/12/14
Post by: Tr1boy on February 12, 2014, 07:54:24 PM
Rajon Allen?
Title: Re: Spurs (37-15) at Celtics (19-34) Game #54 2/12/14
Post by: nickagneta on February 12, 2014, 07:55:17 PM
Its getting more and more evident that someone worked very hard on their shot while being out for a year.

Good for you Rondo!!!
Title: Re: Spurs (37-15) at Celtics (19-34) Game #54 2/12/14
Post by: Spicoli on February 12, 2014, 07:55:30 PM
Rondo making 3's increases his value dramatically in my opinion. He would basically be a clone of Jason Kidd which is a good thing.
Title: Re: Spurs (37-15) at Celtics (19-34) Game #54 2/12/14
Post by: Quetzalcoatl on February 12, 2014, 07:59:36 PM
Olynyk needs to just not bite on fakes and he'd be twice the player he is now. 
Title: Re: Spurs (37-15) at Celtics (19-34) Game #54 2/12/14
Post by: beklog on February 12, 2014, 08:01:11 PM
You can't leave Wallace on the court.

fixed  ;D
Title: Re: Spurs (37-15) at Celtics (19-34) Game #54 2/12/14
Post by: Quetzalcoatl on February 12, 2014, 08:02:00 PM
I hate that walking call.  Mainly because whenever I play with anybody over the age of 40 they call me for it constantly.
Title: Re: Spurs (37-15) at Celtics (19-34) Game #54 2/12/14
Post by: SCeltic34 on February 12, 2014, 08:02:15 PM
KO doing a great job so far.
Title: Re: Spurs (37-15) at Celtics (19-34) Game #54 2/12/14
Post by: Who on February 12, 2014, 08:02:32 PM
Belinelli is having a great season. He was such a streaky shooter when he first came into the league. Making 50% FG% and 45% 3PT this season. Impressive growth.
Title: Re: Spurs (37-15) at Celtics (19-34) Game #54 2/12/14
Post by: Tr1boy on February 12, 2014, 08:04:31 PM
Belinelli is having a great season. He was such a streaky shooter when he first came into the league. Making 50% FG% and 45% 3PT this season. Impressive growth.

He also looks like a young Sylverster Stallone
Title: Re: Spurs (37-15) at Celtics (19-34) Game #54 2/12/14
Post by: Tr1boy on February 12, 2014, 08:05:12 PM
KO not hesitating as much anymore

Great to see. Kid is skilled people will see
Title: Re: Spurs (37-15) at Celtics (19-34) Game #54 2/12/14
Post by: nickagneta on February 12, 2014, 08:05:35 PM
KO doing a great job so far.
Meh...he basically gave Matt Bonner 5 pts. Everything positive this kid does is undone by his atrocious defense.
Title: Re: Spurs (37-15) at Celtics (19-34) Game #54 2/12/14
Post by: Eddie20 on February 12, 2014, 08:05:37 PM
It would be nice if Sully could put in some of these offensive rebound bunnies he has gotten.

Nick, is Kelly O starting to grow on you?
Title: Re: Spurs (37-15) at Celtics (19-34) Game #54 2/12/14
Post by: Tr1boy on February 12, 2014, 08:09:50 PM
2nd unit better than the 1st so far
Title: Re: Spurs (37-15) at Celtics (19-34) Game #54 2/12/14
Post by: Who on February 12, 2014, 08:09:55 PM
G: Pressey
G: Bayless
G: Chris Johnson
F: Olynyk
F: Humphries

This is an embarrassingly bad lineup.
Title: Re: Spurs (37-15) at Celtics (19-34) Game #54 2/12/14
Post by: Quetzalcoatl on February 12, 2014, 08:10:25 PM
Can you imagine this team with a healthy Rondo and a top 5 pick?  We're not really that bad.  I mean we're bad, don't get me wrong, but we're not that bad
Title: Re: Spurs (37-15) at Celtics (19-34) Game #54 2/12/14
Post by: Vox_Populi on February 12, 2014, 08:11:14 PM
Good energy. 
Title: Re: Spurs (37-15) at Celtics (19-34) Game #54 2/12/14
Post by: SCeltic34 on February 12, 2014, 08:11:24 PM
KO doing a great job so far.
Meh...he basically gave Matt Bonner 5 pts. Everything positive this kid does is undone by his atrocious defense.

Yeah he made the mistake on Bonner, but otherwise is doing a terrific job.  Not gonna nitpick with a rookie.
Title: Re: Spurs (37-15) at Celtics (19-34) Game #54 2/12/14
Post by: Tr1boy on February 12, 2014, 08:12:13 PM
G: Pressey
G: Bayless
G: Chris Johnson
F: Olynyk
F: Humphries

This is an embarrassingly bad lineup.

What is the problem?

We have comeback now to take the lead. Its better than the starting lineup so far
Title: Re: Spurs (37-15) at Celtics (19-34) Game #54 2/12/14
Post by: danglertx on February 12, 2014, 08:12:24 PM
Its almost like Olynyk has learned how to go up and grab rebounds with two hands the last couple games.  He is really working the defensive boards.
Title: Re: Spurs (37-15) at Celtics (19-34) Game #54 2/12/14
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on February 12, 2014, 08:12:54 PM
Looks like KO is being comfortable in shooting that rock. And nice to see he's making them.
Title: Re: Spurs (37-15) at Celtics (19-34) Game #54 2/12/14
Post by: Eddie20 on February 12, 2014, 08:13:19 PM
KO doing a great job so far.
Meh...he basically gave Matt Bonner 5 pts. Everything positive this kid does is undone by his atrocious defense.

Wait, what? Bonner hit 2 baskets, one in transition and one on a deep three where Olynyk had a hand in his face. Not much to gripe about Olynyk. He's playing confident offensively, capable defensively, and battling on the glass.

Just enjoy the Olynyk ride, because it's not going to end as soon as you predicted.
Title: Re: Spurs (37-15) at Celtics (19-34) Game #54 2/12/14
Post by: BleedGreen1989 on February 12, 2014, 08:14:31 PM
KO doing a great job so far.
Meh...he basically gave Matt Bonner 5 pts. Everything positive this kid does is undone by his atrocious defense.

Least he's got 6 boards
Title: Re: Spurs (37-15) at Celtics (19-34) Game #54 2/12/14
Post by: nickagneta on February 12, 2014, 08:15:18 PM
It would be nice if Sully could put in some of these offensive rebound bunnies he has gotten.

Nick, is Kelly O starting to grow on you?
I guess you will just never understand my problem with Olynyk.

Simply put, I hate weak, finesse, offensively minded big men that can't play defense, and that's exactly what Olynyk is. If he makes it past his rookie contract, its going to be because someone wants a stretch four off the bench that can score against bad second team defensive big men.

He is showing skills on one side of the ball but is completely awful on the other.

 
Title: Re: Spurs (37-15) at Celtics (19-34) Game #54 2/12/14
Post by: Eddie20 on February 12, 2014, 08:15:39 PM
G: Pressey
G: Bayless
G: Chris Johnson
F: Olynyk
F: Humphries

This is an embarrassingly bad lineup.

What is the problem?

We have comeback now to take the lead. Its better than the starting lineup so far

I agree. That lineup plays incredibly hard.
Title: Re: Spurs (37-15) at Celtics (19-34) Game #54 2/12/14
Post by: Mr October on February 12, 2014, 08:16:02 PM
Nice defense, Boris.... Haha.
Title: Re: Spurs (37-15) at Celtics (19-34) Game #54 2/12/14
Post by: beklog on February 12, 2014, 08:18:00 PM
Wow our 2nd unit is taking over the Spurs
Title: Re: Spurs (37-15) at Celtics (19-34) Game #54 2/12/14
Post by: Mr October on February 12, 2014, 08:18:37 PM
San Antonio is so good at finding 3 and D guys.
Title: Re: Spurs (37-15) at Celtics (19-34) Game #54 2/12/14
Post by: Vox_Populi on February 12, 2014, 08:19:17 PM
All I remember of Mills from last year was his towel waving. Now he's added some muscle and turned into a heat check guy.
Title: Re: Spurs (37-15) at Celtics (19-34) Game #54 2/12/14
Post by: Eddie20 on February 12, 2014, 08:20:42 PM
It would be nice if Sully could put in some of these offensive rebound bunnies he has gotten.

Nick, is Kelly O starting to grow on you?
I guess you will just never understand my problem with Olynyk.

Simply put, I hate weak, finesse, offensively minded big men that can't play defense, and that's exactly what Olynyk is. If he makes it past his rookie contract, its going to be because someone wants a stretch four off the bench that can score against bad second team defensive big men.

He is showing skills on one side of the ball but is completely awful on the other.

Do you know how many people used that same description on Dirk? What I see is a highly skilled offensive player, that has only played 65 total games (NCAA/NBA) since 2011 because of the redshirt, and continues to improve in all aspects of the game as his confidence grows.
Title: Re: Spurs (37-15) at Celtics (19-34) Game #54 2/12/14
Post by: Tr1boy on February 12, 2014, 08:20:59 PM
KO on his way for another double double.

Nick, what do you think?
Title: Re: Spurs (37-15) at Celtics (19-34) Game #54 2/12/14
Post by: Chief on February 12, 2014, 08:25:52 PM
I hope Bill Russell lives to 125.
Title: Re: Spurs (37-15) at Celtics (19-34) Game #54 2/12/14
Post by: nickagneta on February 12, 2014, 08:25:54 PM
You guys see what you want, I will see what I want. I don't like a certain type of player and Olynyk is exactly that type of player. You're not going to change that in me, I'm too old and set in my ways to love those types of players.
Title: Re: Spurs (37-15) at Celtics (19-34) Game #54 2/12/14
Post by: LarBrd33 on February 12, 2014, 08:27:01 PM
Oly can pass
Title: Re: Spurs (37-15) at Celtics (19-34) Game #54 2/12/14
Post by: Chief on February 12, 2014, 08:28:27 PM
I hate Wallace.
Title: Re: Spurs (37-15) at Celtics (19-34) Game #54 2/12/14
Post by: LarBrd33 on February 12, 2014, 08:29:14 PM
Wallace actually still has game.  I think with a defined role, he could average close to what he did in his prime.  If we trade Jeff Green, I kind of expect Wallace to get a big boost
Title: Re: Spurs (37-15) at Celtics (19-34) Game #54 2/12/14
Post by: Clench123 on February 12, 2014, 08:29:32 PM
I hope Bill Russell lives to 125.

Me too
Title: Re: Spurs (37-15) at Celtics (19-34) Game #54 2/12/14
Post by: Chief on February 12, 2014, 08:30:10 PM
Wallace actually still has game.  I think with a defined role, he could average close to what he did in his prime.  If we trade Jeff Green, I kind of expect Wallace to get a big boost

He can't shoot.
Title: Re: Spurs (37-15) at Celtics (19-34) Game #54 2/12/14
Post by: Mr October on February 12, 2014, 08:30:24 PM
It would be nice if Sully could put in some of these offensive rebound bunnies he has gotten.

Nick, is Kelly O starting to grow on you?
I guess you will just never understand my problem with Olynyk.

Simply put, I hate weak, finesse, offensively minded big men that can't play defense, and that's exactly what Olynyk is. If he makes it past his rookie contract, its going to be because someone wants a stretch four off the bench that can score against bad second team defensive big men.

He is showing skills on one side of the ball but is completely awful on the other.

Do you know how many people used that same description on Dirk? What I see is a highly skilled offensive player, that has only played 65 total games (NCAA/NBA) since 2011 because of the redshirt, and continues to improve in all aspects of the game as his confidence grows.

Dirk had/has the transcendent shooting touch of an elite guard. There has never been a 7 footer who could shoot and score the way he did/does. Dirk in his younger days was also very athletic.

I like olynyk. But the dirk comparisons are unfair to him.
Title: Re: Spurs (37-15) at Celtics (19-34) Game #54 2/12/14
Post by: Chief on February 12, 2014, 08:31:38 PM
Do you think Stevens starts that pathetic starting lineup in the 2nd half?
Title: Re: Spurs (37-15) at Celtics (19-34) Game #54 2/12/14
Post by: Quetzalcoatl on February 12, 2014, 08:34:00 PM
Wallace actually still has game.  I think with a defined role, he could average close to what he did in his prime.  If we trade Jeff Green, I kind of expect Wallace to get a big boost

There is no way he could average close to 19.4 pts, 6 r, 3.5 a, 1 blk and 2 steals a game on .449 fg% again.  He was a legit all-star
Title: Re: Spurs (37-15) at Celtics (19-34) Game #54 2/12/14
Post by: hwangjini_1 on February 12, 2014, 08:34:52 PM
KO doing a great job so far.
i assume you mean on offense and the boards. on defense he is simply too slow and lacks lateral movement to keep up with spurs who attack the basket. he will improve with coaching, not a lot, but some.

olly did have a very nice move to the basket earlier. nice to see him developing more confidence on offense.
Title: Re: Spurs (37-15) at Celtics (19-34) Game #54 2/12/14
Post by: Celtics18 on February 12, 2014, 08:36:31 PM
It would be nice if Sully could put in some of these offensive rebound bunnies he has gotten.

Nick, is Kelly O starting to grow on you?
I guess you will just never understand my problem with Olynyk.

Simply put, I hate weak, finesse, offensively minded big men that can't play defense, and that's exactly what Olynyk is. If he makes it past his rookie contract, its going to be because someone wants a stretch four off the bench that can score against bad second team defensive big men.

He is showing skills on one side of the ball but is completely awful on the other.

Do you know how many people used that same description on Dirk? What I see is a highly skilled offensive player, that has only played 65 total games (NCAA/NBA) since 2011 because of the redshirt, and continues to improve in all aspects of the game as his confidence grows.

Dirk had/has the transcendent shooting touch of an elite guard. There has never been a 7 footer who could shoot and score the way he did/does. Dirk in his younger days was also very athletic.

I like olynyk. But the dirk comparisons are unfair to him.

Sorry, but Dirk was never "very athletic."
Title: Re: Spurs (37-15) at Celtics (19-34) Game #54 2/12/14
Post by: Neurotic Guy on February 12, 2014, 08:38:03 PM
It would be nice if Sully could put in some of these offensive rebound bunnies he has gotten.

Nick, is Kelly O starting to grow on you?
I guess you will just never understand my problem with Olynyk.

Simply put, I hate weak, finesse, offensively minded big men that can't play defense, and that's exactly what Olynyk is. If he makes it past his rookie contract, its going to be because someone wants a stretch four off the bench that can score against bad second team defensive big men.

He is showing skills on one side of the ball but is completely awful on the other.

I guess the answer is, he IS growing on you. 

A while back you said he won't be on an NBA roster 2 years from now. Then you said he won't be on an NBA roster after his rookie contract. Now you say he'll only be on an NBA roster after his rookie contract if someone wants an offense-only stretch four off the bench.  At this pace, you will be in love with Olynyk's game by December, 2019. 
Title: Re: Spurs (37-15) at Celtics (19-34) Game #54 2/12/14
Post by: Sully7 on February 12, 2014, 08:38:18 PM
I love all the KO hate when he's a plus 7 and our undersized center (Sully) is a minus 17.  Big men take time.  I'll give the kid another year before my opinion is fully formed on him.
Title: Re: Spurs (37-15) at Celtics (19-34) Game #54 2/12/14
Post by: Chief on February 12, 2014, 08:39:17 PM
I love all the KO hate when he's a plus 7 and our undersized center (Sully) is a minus 17.  Big men take time.  I'll give the kid another year before my opinion is fully formed on him.

TP!
Title: Re: Spurs (37-15) at Celtics (19-34) Game #54 2/12/14
Post by: Chief on February 12, 2014, 08:40:20 PM
It would be nice if Sully could put in some of these offensive rebound bunnies he has gotten.

Nick, is Kelly O starting to grow on you?
I guess you will just never understand my problem with Olynyk.

Simply put, I hate weak, finesse, offensively minded big men that can't play defense, and that's exactly what Olynyk is. If he makes it past his rookie contract, its going to be because someone wants a stretch four off the bench that can score against bad second team defensive big men.

He is showing skills on one side of the ball but is completely awful on the other.

I guess the answer is, he IS growing on you. 

A while back you said he won't be on an NBA roster 2 years from now. Then you said he won't be on an NBA roster after his rookie contract. Now you say he'll only be on an NBA roster after his rookie contract if someone wants an offense-only stretch four off the bench.  At this pace, you will be in love with Olynyk's game by December, 2019.
Lol
Title: Re: Spurs (37-15) at Celtics (19-34) Game #54 2/12/14
Post by: danglertx on February 12, 2014, 08:40:57 PM
It would be nice if Sully could put in some of these offensive rebound bunnies he has gotten.

Nick, is Kelly O starting to grow on you?
I guess you will just never understand my problem with Olynyk.

Simply put, I hate weak, finesse, offensively minded big men that can't play defense, and that's exactly what Olynyk is. If he makes it past his rookie contract, its going to be because someone wants a stretch four off the bench that can score against bad second team defensive big men.

He is showing skills on one side of the ball but is completely awful on the other.

Do you know how many people used that same description on Dirk? What I see is a highly skilled offensive player, that has only played 65 total games (NCAA/NBA) since 2011 because of the redshirt, and continues to improve in all aspects of the game as his confidence grows.

Dirk had/has the transcendent shooting touch of an elite guard. There has never been a 7 footer who could shoot and score the way he did/does. Dirk in his younger days was also very athletic.

I like olynyk. But the dirk comparisons are unfair to him.

Durant?

I get why people who haven't played a lot of organized basketball think KO plays bad defense.  I'm not going to say he is a dynamic defender but when his man scores it is generally due to him helping out his teammates.  Case in point was that Bonner three.  He was late getting to Bonnor because he was preventing a layup from a cutter on the wing.

His 1 v 1 defense is usually solid.  When Demarcus Cousins was destroying Sully, KO took him for a spell and shut him down including a forced turnover.  He has also learned how to keep his hand straight up and jump, making players have to finish over him near the rim.  He has been forcing a lot of misses like that recently.

Overall, the guy is a Rookie and white in the NBA.  I think his future in the NBA might be the Larry Bird kind of small forward with Sully and an inside defensive minded C.

He has made HUGE strides already this year from the kid Hansborough threw around in that first game against Toronto.  He plays so much tougher now inside fighting for rebounds.
Title: Re: Spurs (37-15) at Celtics (19-34) Game #54 2/12/14
Post by: nickagneta on February 12, 2014, 08:44:15 PM
It would be nice if Sully could put in some of these offensive rebound bunnies he has gotten.

Nick, is Kelly O starting to grow on you?
I guess you will just never understand my problem with Olynyk.

Simply put, I hate weak, finesse, offensively minded big men that can't play defense, and that's exactly what Olynyk is. If he makes it past his rookie contract, its going to be because someone wants a stretch four off the bench that can score against bad second team defensive big men.

He is showing skills on one side of the ball but is completely awful on the other.

I guess the answer is, he IS growing on you. 

A while back you said he won't be on an NBA roster 2 years from now. Then you said he won't be on an NBA roster after his rookie contract. Now you say he'll only be on an NBA roster after his rookie contract if someone wants an offense-only stretch four off the bench.  At this pace, you will be in love with Olynyk's game by December, 2019.
LOL...I think you are missing all the ifs and coulds I put in there.

If he gets past his second year he could....

If he gets past his rookie contract he could...

If someone wants a certain type of player he could...

 ;) :D ;D
Title: Re: Spurs (37-15) at Celtics (19-34) Game #54 2/12/14
Post by: SCeltic34 on February 12, 2014, 08:45:53 PM
It would be nice if Sully could put in some of these offensive rebound bunnies he has gotten.

Nick, is Kelly O starting to grow on you?
I guess you will just never understand my problem with Olynyk.

Simply put, I hate weak, finesse, offensively minded big men that can't play defense, and that's exactly what Olynyk is. If he makes it past his rookie contract, its going to be because someone wants a stretch four off the bench that can score against bad second team defensive big men.

He is showing skills on one side of the ball but is completely awful on the other.

Do you know how many people used that same description on Dirk? What I see is a highly skilled offensive player, that has only played 65 total games (NCAA/NBA) since 2011 because of the redshirt, and continues to improve in all aspects of the game as his confidence grows.

Dirk had/has the transcendent shooting touch of an elite guard. There has never been a 7 footer who could shoot and score the way he did/does. Dirk in his younger days was also very athletic.

I like olynyk. But the dirk comparisons are unfair to him.

Durant?

I get why people who haven't played a lot of organized basketball think KO plays bad defense.  I'm not going to say he is a dynamic defender but when his man scores it is generally due to him helping out his teammates.  Case in point was that Bonner three.  He was late getting to Bonnor because he was preventing a layup from a cutter on the wing.

His 1 v 1 defense is usually solid.  When Demarcus Cousins was destroying Sully, KO took him for a spell and shut him down including a forced turnover.  He has also learned how to keep his hand straight up and jump, making players have to finish over him near the rim.  He has been forcing a lot of misses like that recently.

Overall, the guy is a Rookie and white in the NBA.  I think his future in the NBA might be the Larry Bird kind of small forward with Sully and an inside defensive minded C.

He has made HUGE strides already this year from the kid Hansborough threw around in that first game against Toronto.  He plays so much tougher now inside fighting for rebounds.

KO is waaaaaaaaay to slow to play SF.  Gotsa be a stretch big.
Title: Re: Spurs (37-15) at Celtics (19-34) Game #54 2/12/14
Post by: Vox_Populi on February 12, 2014, 08:51:56 PM
The Spurs are going over the pick on Rondo. Shame he doesn't have all his speed back.
Title: Re: Spurs (37-15) at Celtics (19-34) Game #54 2/12/14
Post by: Chief on February 12, 2014, 08:53:16 PM
I respect but hate the Spurs.
Title: Re: Spurs (37-15) at Celtics (19-34) Game #54 2/12/14
Post by: SHAQATTACK on February 12, 2014, 08:53:45 PM
Tommy ..senile  ;D

Bass has great hands  :o
Title: Re: Spurs (37-15) at Celtics (19-34) Game #54 2/12/14
Post by: nickagneta on February 12, 2014, 08:58:36 PM
Is it just me or is this free flow offense with very little emphasis on set plays and lots of emphasis on ball movement and individual shot creation just not the best style for Rajon Rondo's skill set?
Title: Re: Spurs (37-15) at Celtics (19-34) Game #54 2/12/14
Post by: Mr October on February 12, 2014, 08:58:46 PM
It would be nice if Sully could put in some of these offensive rebound bunnies he has gotten.

Nick, is Kelly O starting to grow on you?
I guess you will just never understand my problem with Olynyk.

Simply put, I hate weak, finesse, offensively minded big men that can't play defense, and that's exactly what Olynyk is. If he makes it past his rookie contract, its going to be because someone wants a stretch four off the bench that can score against bad second team defensive big men.

He is showing skills on one side of the ball but is completely awful on the other.

Do you know how many people used that same description on Dirk? What I see is a highly skilled offensive player, that has only played 65 total games (NCAA/NBA) since 2011 because of the redshirt, and continues to improve in all aspects of the game as his confidence grows.

Dirk had/has the transcendent shooting touch of an elite guard. There has never been a 7 footer who could shoot and score the way he did/does. Dirk in his younger days was also very athletic.

I like olynyk. But the dirk comparisons are unfair to him.

Sorry, but Dirk was never "very athletic."

...compared to olynyk?

Young dirk could get above the rim, and had great speed to go with his still great footwork. Here is a quick example:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uC7Uuysepn0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uC7Uuysepn0)

Very athletic doesnt have to mean Vince carter or Lebron James.
Title: Re: Spurs (37-15) at Celtics (19-34) Game #54 2/12/14
Post by: danglertx on February 12, 2014, 08:59:08 PM
It would be nice if Sully could put in some of these offensive rebound bunnies he has gotten.

Nick, is Kelly O starting to grow on you?
I guess you will just never understand my problem with Olynyk.

Simply put, I hate weak, finesse, offensively minded big men that can't play defense, and that's exactly what Olynyk is. If he makes it past his rookie contract, its going to be because someone wants a stretch four off the bench that can score against bad second team defensive big men.

He is showing skills on one side of the ball but is completely awful on the other.

Do you know how many people used that same description on Dirk? What I see is a highly skilled offensive player, that has only played 65 total games (NCAA/NBA) since 2011 because of the redshirt, and continues to improve in all aspects of the game as his confidence grows.

Dirk had/has the transcendent shooting touch of an elite guard. There has never been a 7 footer who could shoot and score the way he did/does. Dirk in his younger days was also very athletic.

I like olynyk. But the dirk comparisons are unfair to him.

Durant?

I get why people who haven't played a lot of organized basketball think KO plays bad defense.  I'm not going to say he is a dynamic defender but when his man scores it is generally due to him helping out his teammates.  Case in point was that Bonner three.  He was late getting to Bonnor because he was preventing a layup from a cutter on the wing.

His 1 v 1 defense is usually solid.  When Demarcus Cousins was destroying Sully, KO took him for a spell and shut him down including a forced turnover.  He has also learned how to keep his hand straight up and jump, making players have to finish over him near the rim.  He has been forcing a lot of misses like that recently.

Overall, the guy is a Rookie and white in the NBA.  I think his future in the NBA might be the Larry Bird kind of small forward with Sully and an inside defensive minded C.

He has made HUGE strides already this year from the kid Hansborough threw around in that first game against Toronto.  He plays so much tougher now inside fighting for rebounds.

KO is waaaaaaaaay to slow to play SF.  Gotsa be a stretch big.

I disagree.  When he has matched up on SFs this year he has done very well.  A lot of times Dirk plays SF.  Gallinari does.  Durant does, although he is quick, I'm just pointing out 7ft guys who play SF.
Title: Re: Spurs (37-15) at Celtics (19-34) Game #54 2/12/14
Post by: SHAQATTACK on February 12, 2014, 08:59:48 PM
Is it just me or is this free flow offense with very little emphasis on set plays and lots of emphasis on ball movement and individual shot creation just not the best style for Rajon Rondo's skill set?


I sense this as well.
Title: Re: Spurs (37-15) at Celtics (19-34) Game #54 2/12/14
Post by: Chief on February 12, 2014, 09:05:06 PM
Is RoboCop going to be a bust?
Title: Re: Spurs (37-15) at Celtics (19-34) Game #54 2/12/14
Post by: Mazingerz on February 12, 2014, 09:05:17 PM
Is it just me or is this free flow offense with very little emphasis on set plays and lots of emphasis on ball movement and individual shot creation just not the best style for Rajon Rondo's skill set?


I sense this as well.

The sense of the force, is strong with you, young padwan
Title: Re: Spurs (37-15) at Celtics (19-34) Game #54 2/12/14
Post by: SCeltic34 on February 12, 2014, 09:05:52 PM
It would be nice if Sully could put in some of these offensive rebound bunnies he has gotten.

Nick, is Kelly O starting to grow on you?
I guess you will just never understand my problem with Olynyk.

Simply put, I hate weak, finesse, offensively minded big men that can't play defense, and that's exactly what Olynyk is. If he makes it past his rookie contract, its going to be because someone wants a stretch four off the bench that can score against bad second team defensive big men.

He is showing skills on one side of the ball but is completely awful on the other.

Do you know how many people used that same description on Dirk? What I see is a highly skilled offensive player, that has only played 65 total games (NCAA/NBA) since 2011 because of the redshirt, and continues to improve in all aspects of the game as his confidence grows.

Dirk had/has the transcendent shooting touch of an elite guard. There has never been a 7 footer who could shoot and score the way he did/does. Dirk in his younger days was also very athletic.

I like olynyk. But the dirk comparisons are unfair to him.

Durant?

I get why people who haven't played a lot of organized basketball think KO plays bad defense.  I'm not going to say he is a dynamic defender but when his man scores it is generally due to him helping out his teammates.  Case in point was that Bonner three.  He was late getting to Bonnor because he was preventing a layup from a cutter on the wing.

His 1 v 1 defense is usually solid.  When Demarcus Cousins was destroying Sully, KO took him for a spell and shut him down including a forced turnover.  He has also learned how to keep his hand straight up and jump, making players have to finish over him near the rim.  He has been forcing a lot of misses like that recently.

Overall, the guy is a Rookie and white in the NBA.  I think his future in the NBA might be the Larry Bird kind of small forward with Sully and an inside defensive minded C.

He has made HUGE strides already this year from the kid Hansborough threw around in that first game against Toronto.  He plays so much tougher now inside fighting for rebounds.

KO is waaaaaaaaay to slow to play SF.  Gotsa be a stretch big.

I disagree.  When he has matched up on SFs this year he has done very well.  A lot of times Dirk plays SF.  Gallinari does.  Durant does, although he is quick, I'm just pointing out 7ft guys who play SF.

Should the C's make the playoffs in the next few years, I don't think KO matching up with the likes of LeBron, Paul George, and Melo is ideal.
Title: Re: Spurs (37-15) at Celtics (19-34) Game #54 2/12/14
Post by: SHAQATTACK on February 12, 2014, 09:06:45 PM
Is RoboCop going to be a bust?

I think so
Title: Re: Spurs (37-15) at Celtics (19-34) Game #54 2/12/14
Post by: danglertx on February 12, 2014, 09:07:58 PM
I don't think there are many guys in the league you'd like to match up against those three.  If that is your criteria we aren't going to field a SF.
Title: Re: Spurs (37-15) at Celtics (19-34) Game #54 2/12/14
Post by: Chief on February 12, 2014, 09:11:09 PM
Im no tanker! Let's win this one!!
Title: Re: Spurs (37-15) at Celtics (19-34) Game #54 2/12/14
Post by: SHAQATTACK on February 12, 2014, 09:12:51 PM
Im no tanker! Let's win this one!!


I think it's winnable .

We need to pick up the effort .......and defense
Title: Re: Spurs (37-15) at Celtics (19-34) Game #54 2/12/14
Post by: Tr1boy on February 12, 2014, 09:13:12 PM
What a nice drive and finish by KO.

You rarely see big players that can dribble and score with their off hand
Title: Re: Spurs (37-15) at Celtics (19-34) Game #54 2/12/14
Post by: Mr October on February 12, 2014, 09:17:48 PM
What a nice drive and finish by KO.

You rarely see big players that can dribble and score with their off hand

I cant wait to see how he looks after adding some more strength to his frame. I like his scrappy game!
Title: Re: Spurs (37-15) at Celtics (19-34) Game #54 2/12/14
Post by: Chief on February 12, 2014, 09:21:08 PM
What a nice drive and finish by KO.

You rarely see big players that can dribble and score with their off hand



I cant wait to see how he looks after adding some more strength to his frame. I like his scrappy game!

Me too.
Title: Re: Spurs (37-15) at Celtics (19-34) Game #54 2/12/14
Post by: SHAQATTACK on February 12, 2014, 09:22:14 PM
What a nice drive and finish by KO.

You rarely see big players that can dribble and score with their off hand

I cant wait to see how he looks after adding some more strength to his frame. I like his scrappy game!

Yeah....he is too timid ......can't be shy in the NBA
Title: Re: Spurs (37-15) at Celtics (19-34) Game #54 2/12/14
Post by: Tr1boy on February 12, 2014, 09:22:35 PM
can Rondo just stay in front of his man?

He is always trying to steal the ball. I don't get it
Title: Re: Spurs (37-15) at Celtics (19-34) Game #54 2/12/14
Post by: nickagneta on February 12, 2014, 09:23:51 PM
Duncan putting on a clinic as to how to be a real big man in the NBA.
Title: Re: Spurs (37-15) at Celtics (19-34) Game #54 2/12/14
Post by: SHAQATTACK on February 12, 2014, 09:25:25 PM
Duncan putting on a clinic as to how to be a real big man in the NBA.


Yup...he is killing us same way Dirk did.......glade when they are gone
Title: Re: Spurs (37-15) at Celtics (19-34) Game #54 2/12/14
Post by: Mr October on February 12, 2014, 09:25:36 PM
What a nice drive and finish by KO.

You rarely see big players that can dribble and score with their off hand

I cant wait to see how he looks after adding some more strength to his frame. I like his scrappy game!

Yeah....he is too timid ......can't be shy in the NBA

He has a lot of good instincts. If he could just hold his ground a little more, he would make a big step towards being a high quality role player.
Title: Re: Spurs (37-15) at Celtics (19-34) Game #54 2/12/14
Post by: Chief on February 12, 2014, 09:25:48 PM
Duncan putting on a clinic as to how to be a real big man in the NBA.

He looks 10 years younger tonight.
Title: Re: Spurs (37-15) at Celtics (19-34) Game #54 2/12/14
Post by: SCeltic34 on February 12, 2014, 09:26:44 PM
I don't think there are many guys in the league you'd like to match up against those three.  If that is your criteria we aren't going to field a SF.

But that's not the point. 

On a night to night basis, KO's best position is not at SF, and it certainly isn't ideal defensively for the C's.  I would bet my bank account that you will never see a consistent starting lineup with KO at SF because it's simply just a bad idea.
Title: Re: Spurs (37-15) at Celtics (19-34) Game #54 2/12/14
Post by: esel1000 on February 12, 2014, 09:27:19 PM
Rondo has six 3s in the last two games, crazy
Title: Re: Spurs (37-15) at Celtics (19-34) Game #54 2/12/14
Post by: beklog on February 12, 2014, 09:27:40 PM
can Rondo just stay in front of his man?

He is always trying to steal the ball. I don't get it

same 'ol Rondo
Title: Re: Spurs (37-15) at Celtics (19-34) Game #54 2/12/14
Post by: SHAQATTACK on February 12, 2014, 09:27:49 PM
What a nice drive and finish by KO.

You rarely see big players that can dribble and score with their off hand

I cant wait to see how he looks after adding some more strength to his frame. I like his scrappy game!

Yeah....he is too timid ......can't be shy in the NBA

He has a lot of good instincts. If he could just hold his ground a little more, he would make a big step towards being a high quality role player.

Aldridge built himself up one summer years back ......weight room and was a different player from then on ...his confidence soared
Title: Re: Spurs (37-15) at Celtics (19-34) Game #54 2/12/14
Post by: Mr October on February 12, 2014, 09:28:07 PM
Duncan putting on a clinic as to how to be a real big man in the NBA.

He looks 10 years younger tonight.

He has looked great for the past 2 seasons! It's amazing how he still performs with all that mileage.
Title: Re: Spurs (37-15) at Celtics (19-34) Game #54 2/12/14
Post by: Chief on February 12, 2014, 09:28:44 PM
Just trade Jeff Green right now!
Title: Re: Spurs (37-15) at Celtics (19-34) Game #54 2/12/14
Post by: beklog on February 12, 2014, 09:29:59 PM
Rondo has six 3s in the last two games, crazy

6/9 from the arc!!

move over Korver!!
Title: Re: Spurs (37-15) at Celtics (19-34) Game #54 2/12/14
Post by: Tr1boy on February 12, 2014, 09:30:09 PM
Duncan putting on a clinic as to how to be a real big man in the NBA.

He looks 10 years younger tonight.

He has looked great for the past 2 seasons! It's amazing how he still performs with all that mileage.

Mr Cool. He just keeps trucking.

Lucky for him he has a 7'6 wingspan
Title: Re: Spurs (37-15) at Celtics (19-34) Game #54 2/12/14
Post by: pokeKingCurtis on February 12, 2014, 09:30:28 PM
Just trade Jeff Green right now!

I wish Stevens would just bench his ass.
Title: Re: Spurs (37-15) at Celtics (19-34) Game #54 2/12/14
Post by: SHAQATTACK on February 12, 2014, 09:30:42 PM
Just trade Jeff Green right now!


This second ?

Can I finish my beer ?
Title: Re: Spurs (37-15) at Celtics (19-34) Game #54 2/12/14
Post by: SCeltic34 on February 12, 2014, 09:31:55 PM
How many calls is Duncan gonna get?
Title: Re: Spurs (37-15) at Celtics (19-34) Game #54 2/12/14
Post by: Chief on February 12, 2014, 09:31:58 PM
Just trade Jeff Green right now!


This second ?

Can I finish my beer ?
OK, after your beer. But you got to trade Bass too.
Title: Re: Spurs (37-15) at Celtics (19-34) Game #54 2/12/14
Post by: Mr October on February 12, 2014, 09:32:05 PM
Just trade Jeff Green right now!


This second ?

Can I finish my beer ?

TP
Title: Re: Spurs (37-15) at Celtics (19-34) Game #54 2/12/14
Post by: LarBrd33 on February 12, 2014, 09:33:46 PM
Rondo has had 4 solid games in a row.   I just traded Jameer Nelson for him in one of my fantasy Bball leagues. I hope he keeps this up. 
Title: Re: Spurs (37-15) at Celtics (19-34) Game #54 2/12/14
Post by: SHAQATTACK on February 12, 2014, 09:33:57 PM
Just trade Jeff Green right now!


This second ?

Can I finish my beer ?
OK, after your beer. But you got to trade Bass too.

Hang on ....
Title: Re: Spurs (37-15) at Celtics (19-34) Game #54 2/12/14
Post by: Mr October on February 12, 2014, 09:33:59 PM
Ugggg, the clear path review needs to go away. Either it's clear or it's not. I cant remeber the last time an official overturned his verdict on a clear path call.

What a waste of time.
Title: Re: Spurs (37-15) at Celtics (19-34) Game #54 2/12/14
Post by: SHAQATTACK on February 12, 2014, 09:36:42 PM
San Antonio .....

Will be sorry


When we get.J. Parker
[ :)
Title: Re: Spurs (37-15) at Celtics (19-34) Game #54 2/12/14
Post by: SCeltic34 on February 12, 2014, 09:36:54 PM
In other news, Paul Pierce has 25 points on 9-11 shooting in 22 minutes against the Bobcats.  Still ballin'.
Title: Re: Spurs (37-15) at Celtics (19-34) Game #54 2/12/14
Post by: pokeKingCurtis on February 12, 2014, 09:37:41 PM
First option?
Title: Re: Spurs (37-15) at Celtics (19-34) Game #54 2/12/14
Post by: esel1000 on February 12, 2014, 09:38:01 PM
So Rondo can't shoot?
Title: Re: Spurs (37-15) at Celtics (19-34) Game #54 2/12/14
Post by: LarBrd33 on February 12, 2014, 09:38:15 PM
In other news, Paul Pierce has 25 points on 9-11 shooting in 22 minutes against the Bobcats.  Still ballin'.
I hope we can sign him in the offseason to play back up to Wiggins.
Title: Re: Spurs (37-15) at Celtics (19-34) Game #54 2/12/14
Post by: SHAQATTACK on February 12, 2014, 09:39:42 PM
In other news, Paul Pierce has 25 points on 9-11 shooting in 22 minutes against the Bobcats.  Still ballin'.
I hope we can sign him in the offseason to play back up to Parker
That's better :)
Title: Re: Spurs (37-15) at Celtics (19-34) Game #54 2/12/14
Post by: SCeltic34 on February 12, 2014, 09:40:02 PM
Gotta revisit Nickagenta's comment because he's right.  KO's defense this game has been atrocious, worse than normal.  Torched by Diaw all night then doesn't pick up Bonner?  Seriously KO.
Title: Re: Spurs (37-15) at Celtics (19-34) Game #54 2/12/14
Post by: SCeltic34 on February 12, 2014, 09:40:57 PM
In other news, Paul Pierce has 25 points on 9-11 shooting in 22 minutes against the Bobcats.  Still ballin'.
I hope we can sign him in the offseason to play back up to Wiggins.

We can dream can't we?  ;D
Title: Re: Spurs (37-15) at Celtics (19-34) Game #54 2/12/14
Post by: Mr October on February 12, 2014, 09:41:08 PM
In other news, Paul Pierce has 25 points on 9-11 shooting in 22 minutes against the Bobcats.  Still ballin'.

The Truth
Title: Re: Spurs (37-15) at Celtics (19-34) Game #54 2/12/14
Post by: LarBrd33 on February 12, 2014, 09:41:18 PM
So Rondo can't shoot?
He's shot very well over the past 4 games.  He hasn't taken a single free throw in that span, though.   If his shot is improved to the point that he doesn't need to penetrate as much, it will do wonders for his longevity.

But it's also probably just law of averages.  He shot horribly over his first handful of games.  Things are averaging out.
Title: Re: Spurs (37-15) at Celtics (19-34) Game #54 2/12/14
Post by: Chief on February 12, 2014, 09:42:13 PM
Gotta revisit Nickagenta's comment because he's right.  KO's defense this game has been atrocious, worse than normal.  Torched by Diaw all night then doesn't pick up Bonner?  Seriously KO.

Oddly enough,because they both are so unorthodox, they do it to a lot of big men.
Title: Re: Spurs (37-15) at Celtics (19-34) Game #54 2/12/14
Post by: Eddie20 on February 12, 2014, 09:42:34 PM
Is it just me or is this free flow offense with very little emphasis on set plays and lots of emphasis on ball movement and individual shot creation just not the best style for Rajon Rondo's skill set?

I sense this as well.

Yeah, he's better in 1/4 type offense where the ball is predominately in his hands and he's setting up teammates.
Title: Re: Spurs (37-15) at Celtics (19-34) Game #54 2/12/14
Post by: Chief on February 12, 2014, 09:44:40 PM
KO brings the ball down after the catch. Keep it high!
Title: Re: Spurs (37-15) at Celtics (19-34) Game #54 2/12/14
Post by: SCeltic34 on February 12, 2014, 09:44:56 PM
Gotta revisit Nickagenta's comment because he's right.  KO's defense this game has been atrocious, worse than normal.  Torched by Diaw all night then doesn't pick up Bonner?  Seriously KO.

Oddly enough,because they both are so unorthodox, they do it to a lot of big men.

True
Title: Re: Spurs (37-15) at Celtics (19-34) Game #54 2/12/14
Post by: LarBrd33 on February 12, 2014, 09:46:06 PM
Is it just me or is this free flow offense with very little emphasis on set plays and lots of emphasis on ball movement and individual shot creation just not the best style for Rajon Rondo's skill set?

I sense this as well.

Yeah, he's better in 1/4 type offense where the ball is predominately in his hands and he's setting up teammates.
If he can shoot like he has over the past 4 games, it will fit him fine.  But traditionally, it seemed the best way to make up for his lack of shooting was to surround him with guys who could hit open shots.  He's always been good at attacking the basket and finding open guys on kick-outs.  The ball has to be in his hand, though, because defenses traditionally don't respect Rondo's shooting ability.
Title: Re: Spurs (37-15) at Celtics (19-34) Game #54 2/12/14
Post by: hwangjini_1 on February 12, 2014, 09:46:15 PM
and a double double for olly.  ;D
Title: Re: Spurs (37-15) at Celtics (19-34) Game #54 2/12/14
Post by: Vox_Populi on February 12, 2014, 09:47:23 PM
So Rondo can't shoot?
The 3 point shot looks better, even if it is a small sample size. Now for the free throws.
Title: Re: Spurs (37-15) at Celtics (19-34) Game #54 2/12/14
Post by: Tr1boy on February 12, 2014, 09:47:30 PM
and a double double for olly.  ;D

sweet. Nice defensive play at the end of the game also.

Celts have to lob to olynyk and forget it. The guy can catch balls well out of his area. Great hands
Title: Re: Spurs (37-15) at Celtics (19-34) Game #54 2/12/14
Post by: SHAQATTACK on February 12, 2014, 09:47:35 PM
KO needs a personal trainer and live in the weight room this off season.

Too much baby fat .......add more muscle and a bit of aggressive attitude




Title: Re: Spurs (37-15) at Celtics (19-34) Game #54 2/12/14
Post by: danglertx on February 12, 2014, 09:48:55 PM
Gotta revisit Nickagenta's comment because he's right.  KO's defense this game has been atrocious, worse than normal.  Torched by Diaw all night then doesn't pick up Bonner?  Seriously KO.

I gotta wonder if you guys really even watch the game.  Why didn't he pick up Bonner?  Because he was under the basket on the other end setting a screen for Bayless to get an easy lay up.  Bass has to pick up Bonnner because KO was busting up the other end to get someone else an easy basket while Bonner was cherry picking at the other end.
Title: Re: Spurs (37-15) at Celtics (19-34) Game #54 2/12/14
Post by: Tr1boy on February 12, 2014, 09:49:26 PM
poor defensive effort by Rondo again tonight.  In two weeks, there are no more excuses

When pressey and bayless were in the game, their pgs had a tough time getting settled in the half court
Title: Re: Spurs (37-15) at Celtics (19-34) Game #54 2/12/14
Post by: SCeltic34 on February 12, 2014, 09:51:13 PM
Gotta revisit Nickagenta's comment because he's right.  KO's defense this game has been atrocious, worse than normal.  Torched by Diaw all night then doesn't pick up Bonner?  Seriously KO.

I gotta wonder if you guys really even watch the game.  Why didn't he pick up Bonner?  Because he was under the basket on the other end setting a screen for Bayless to get an easy lay up.  Bass has to pick up Bonnner because KO was busting up the other end to get someone else an easy basket while Bonner was cherry picking at the other end.

Guess I missed the front end of that play, my computer sits away from my TV.  But of course I watch the games, I don't come to a game thread just for the hell of it.
Title: Re: Spurs (37-15) at Celtics (19-34) Game #54 2/12/14
Post by: Tr1boy on February 12, 2014, 09:51:25 PM
KO needs a personal trainer and live in the weight room this off season.

I bet he will come next season with a much better body. Something in the shape of Humphries . Sullinger also needs to get into shape
Title: Re: Spurs (37-15) at Celtics (19-34) Game #54 2/12/14
Post by: pokeKingCurtis on February 12, 2014, 09:53:23 PM
So Rondo can't shoot?
The 3 point shot looks better, even if it is a small sample size. Now for the free throws.

Yes. 50%.

But he went 1-4 in one of his first games back. Hit both his free throws in subsequent games.
Title: Re: Spurs (37-15) at Celtics (19-34) Game #54 2/12/14
Post by: ImShakHeIsShaq on February 12, 2014, 09:55:17 PM
I'm only gonna say these few words...


Jeff Green.
Title: Re: Spurs (37-15) at Celtics (19-34) Game #54 2/12/14
Post by: SHAQATTACK on February 12, 2014, 09:55:31 PM
KO needs a personal trainer and live in the weight room this off season.

I bet he will come next season with a much better body. Something in the shape of Humphries . Sullinger also needs to get into shape

I think KO will get the message ...hit the weight room

Sully ...is another matter ....he just has that big ol rump style booty thing ......great for moving people out .......sorta of his secret weapon .......

Sully gives em

The Rump.a Bump under the bucket  ;D
Title: Re: Spurs (37-15) at Celtics (19-34) Game #54 2/12/14
Post by: SHAQATTACK on February 12, 2014, 09:56:43 PM
I'm only gonna say these few words...


Jeff Green.

Jeff

Is that now a four letter word?
Title: Re: Spurs (37-15) at Celtics (19-34) Game #54 2/12/14
Post by: esel1000 on February 12, 2014, 10:01:34 PM
We are what we are... we lose to teams with an ounce of talent, and either barely beat or beat up on teams amazingly worse than us (Bucks, Kings, etc). I feel like we're going to be saying goodbye to a lot of players next week, and our talent level will be on par with teams like the Bucks and we basically lose out.

Just a hunch... I doubt DA wants this team winning 30 games
Title: Re: Spurs (37-15) at Celtics (19-34) Game #54 2/12/14
Post by: Mr October on February 12, 2014, 10:08:46 PM
We are what we are... we lose to teams with an ounce of talent, and either barely beat or beat up on teams amazingly worse than us (Bucks, Kings, etc). I feel like we're going to be saying goodbye to a lot of players next week, and our talent level will be on par with teams like the Bucks and we basically lose out.

Just a hunch... I doubt DA wants this team winning 30 games

The celtics have had 2 quality wins in the last 2 months. The wizards and the raptors. They probably won't reach 30 wins, even if they dont trade talent away.
Title: Re: Spurs (37-15) at Celtics (19-34) Game #54 2/12/14
Post by: Mazingerz on February 12, 2014, 10:33:51 PM
I'm only gonna say these few words...


Jeff Green.

Jeff

Is that now a four letter word?

Jeff You man  ;D
Title: Re: Spurs (37-15) at Celtics (19-34) Game #54 2/12/14
Post by: D.o.s. on February 12, 2014, 11:04:17 PM
Pretty competitive game for the most part, Tim Duncan did his thing, though.

Can someone teach Knockout how to play defense?
Title: Re: Spurs (37-15) at Celtics (19-34) Game #54 2/12/14
Post by: DesertDweller on February 13, 2014, 02:12:45 AM
Tonight's game was true proof why we need a big man. Tim Duncan shredded us.

Is it me or does it seem like every well known player that comes in here gets way too many calls.  like Duncan tonight, our guys weren't even laying a hand on the guy but that whistle was chirping away.  and it seems the calls are more flagrant when we're playing home!!!
Title: Re: Spurs (37-15) at Celtics (19-34) Game #54 2/12/14
Post by: Celtics4ever on February 13, 2014, 05:58:10 AM
Tim Duncan had a nice game for sure.   Sully looked like he was 5 inches shorter than him.   Duncan scored way above this season averages.   Either Duncan has grown or Sully is the shortest 6-9 in the history of the world.   He looked 6-7 last night.   I am beginning to think Sully might be a bottom feeder.   Great against teams without a solid big man but exposed against a true big.

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Is it me or does it seem like every well known player that comes in here gets way too many calls.  like Duncan tonight, our guys weren't even laying a hand on the guy but that whistle was chirping away.  and it seems the calls are more flagrant when we're playing home!!!

It's not just you.

Diaw killed us too.
Title: Re: Spurs (37-15) at Celtics (19-34) Game #54 2/12/14
Post by: Fafnir on February 13, 2014, 09:40:09 AM
Tim Duncan had a nice game for sure.   Sully looked like he was 5 inches shorter than him.   Duncan scored way above this season averages.   Either Duncan has grown or Sully is the shortest 6-9 in the history of the world.   He looked 6-7 last night.   I am beginning to think Sully might be a bottom feeder.   Great against teams without a solid big man but exposed against a true big.

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Is it me or does it seem like every well known player that comes in here gets way too many calls.  like Duncan tonight, our guys weren't even laying a hand on the guy but that whistle was chirping away.  and it seems the calls are more flagrant when we're playing home!!!

It's not just you.

Diaw killed us too.
Reports were that he was sick in bed till shoot around.

I don't think he's a bottom feeder he's done pretty well against premium NBA big men as well as bad ones. He's just not consistent yet. Not a surprise given he's played only 92 NBA games.
Title: Re: Spurs (37-15) at Celtics (19-34) Game #54 2/12/14
Post by: DesertDweller on February 13, 2014, 10:50:37 AM
Sully is a beast that hasn't even started learning but his lift is limited. his game is boxing out people and positioning.  I love that one arm rebound. he has great hands and I think next year he will make 6th man honors.
Title: Re: Spurs (37-15) at Celtics (19-34) Game #54 2/12/14
Post by: Surferdad on February 13, 2014, 07:43:59 PM
We are what we are... we lose to teams with an ounce of talent, and either barely beat or beat up on teams amazingly worse than us (Bucks, Kings, etc). I feel like we're going to be saying goodbye to a lot of players next week, and our talent level will be on par with teams like the Bucks and we basically lose out.

Just a hunch... I doubt DA wants this team winning 30 games

The celtics have had 2 quality wins in the last 2 months. The wizards and the raptors. They probably won't reach 30 wins, even if they dont trade talent away.
Yeah but why not stack the odds in favor of more ping pong balls. Ainge has done a great job of putting together a semblance of team which is really not that good. Great cover for the tanking. This trade deadline is his chance to flip the tank switch on high and power through the final half-season towards the lottery.  ;D
Title: Re: Spurs (37-15) at Celtics (19-34) Game #54 2/12/14
Post by: BballTim on February 13, 2014, 07:54:53 PM
Tim Duncan had a nice game for sure.   Sully looked like he was 5 inches shorter than him.   Duncan scored way above this season averages.   Either Duncan has grown or Sully is the shortest 6-9 in the history of the world.   He looked 6-7 last night.   I am beginning to think Sully might be a bottom feeder.   Great against teams without a solid big man but exposed against a true big.

  That probably explains his earlier game (19/17) against the Spurs.
Title: Re: Spurs (37-15) at Celtics (19-34) Game #54 2/12/14
Post by: Tr1boy on February 13, 2014, 08:25:08 PM
Sully was sick.  Even at his worse he doesn't play like last night

Title: Re: Spurs (37-15) at Celtics (19-34) Game #54 2/12/14
Post by: Celtics4ever on February 13, 2014, 08:30:52 PM
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That probably explains his earlier game (19/17) against the Spurs.

He had trouble with Hibbert too.  Tall guys bother him.  Splitter was guarding him too that game this last game it was Duncan and he was nuetralized.  Pop adjusts Sully didn't.  Remember his performance against Dwight.

6' 7.75" w/o shoes.
Title: Re: Spurs (37-15) at Celtics (19-34) Game #54 2/12/14
Post by: Tr1boy on February 13, 2014, 08:32:59 PM
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That probably explains his earlier game (19/17) against the Spurs.

He had trouble with Hibbert too.  Tall guys bother him.  Splitter was guarding him too that game this last game it was Duncan and he was nuetralized.  Pop adjusts Sully didn't.  Remember his performance against Dwight.

6' 7.75" w/o shoes.

Sullinger is pf.  He is guarding out of position. I want to see what kind of job Zbo or Dwest can do on him.