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Around the League => Transaction Ideas and Rumors => Topic started by: Kane3387 on January 04, 2014, 01:58:17 PM
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Bynum straight up for hump.
We waive him and management saves 6 mill. Or we have what amounts to a 15 million dollar non-guaranteed contract for next year. Similar to a trade exception.
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Probably been floated already. I'd say it's a light possibility.
I'd rather see the Cs send Uncle Snooze and C Lee to the Cavs for Bynum, Gee and a pick (preferably the worse of their two firsts this year, if not the better of their two seconds).
Then trade Bass, and we talkin' cap room this summer.
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sorry -- repost.
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Probably been floated already. I'd say it's a light possibility.
I'd rather see the Cs send Uncle Snooze and C Lee to the Cavs for Bynum, Gee and a pick (preferably the worse of their two firsts this year, if not the better of their two seconds).
Then trade Bass, and we talkin' cap room this summer.
That's funny. TP.
I actually had just checked that exact same trade on the checker, except I was thinking of us taking back Waiters instead of a pick - not because I like Waiters, but because I can't see what we'd do with another pick.
The general idea that CLE should be acquiring established players makes a lot of sense to me. Time is running out if they want to keep Kyrie. And, they do need help at SF and SG. I think Irving and Lee could be a great fit.
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Actually I would keep Humphries and re-sign him for 2/12 after the season....he is incredibly effective
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Probably been floated already. I'd say it's a light possibility.
I'd rather see the Cs send Uncle Snooze and C Lee to the Cavs for Bynum, Gee and a pick (preferably the worse of their two firsts this year, if not the better of their two seconds).
Then trade Bass, and we talkin' cap room this summer.
That's funny. TP.
I actually had just checked that exact same trade on the checker, except I was thinking of us taking back Waiters instead of a pick - not because I like Waiters, but because I can't see what we'd do with another pick.
The general idea that CLE should be acquiring established players makes a lot of sense to me. Time is running out if they want to keep Kyrie. And, they do need help at SF and SG. I think Irving and Lee could be a great fit.
Green would be a good fit with Irving, also. What the Cavs need is guys who can score on the wing without having the ball in their hands much at all. Jeff fits the bill. Lee does, as well, though he'll always be a stop-gap option as a starter.
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Probably been floated already. I'd say it's a light possibility.
I'd rather see the Cs send Uncle Snooze and C Lee to the Cavs for Bynum, Gee and a pick (preferably the worse of their two firsts this year, if not the better of their two seconds).
Then trade Bass, and we talkin' cap room this summer.
That's funny. TP.
I actually had just checked that exact same trade on the checker, except I was thinking of us taking back Waiters instead of a pick - not because I like Waiters, but because I can't see what we'd do with another pick.
The general idea that CLE should be acquiring established players makes a lot of sense to me. Time is running out if they want to keep Kyrie. And, they do need help at SF and SG. I think Irving and Lee could be a great fit.
Yeah I considered the notion of Waiters before deciding on Gee (expiring) and the pick, because a) I don't care that much about acquiring him, b) i don't really care to pay him high rookie scale, and c) CLE might balk.
Lemme put it this way... i wouldn't sweat it either way. I'd still do the deal, but would prefer the pick. I want assets to trade with Bogans on draft day.
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Humph for Bynum makes alot of sense for both teams. If it comes down to just waiving him I could see the cave doing this.
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Wouldn't the Cavs be inclined to go after a SF?
I understand the Gasol rumor and Hump suggestion, but I think they would be better suited by going after a small forward. They have nothing there.
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Wouldn't the Cavs be inclined to go after a SF?
I understand the Gasol rumor and Hump suggestion, but I think they would be better suited by going after a small forward. They have nothing there.
Bynum doesn't wanna play in Cleveland.
I'd imagine they need a less losing season in the worst way, for the sake of developing the kids and for the sake of keeping Kyrie. Keeping Bynum hurts their cause and Bynum has a lot of leverage as far as his destinations go.
This is what confuses me...re: Houston-Asik. Asik is like Bynum at this point. Literally cap space being burned for nothing. Literally a contract that's not producing. Considering that a championship is already well within reach, and considering that we're throwing in a first, why won't they get rid of that empty contract? Worst case scenario, they use our first to dump the long term contract of Lee/Bass and they'd still be able to re-up Parsons.
That said, I love Hump. I don't want him to go to the Cavs...where the front office thinks signing Mike Brown is a good idea :(... Love you Hump!
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I don't get it...why would we do this?
Reason 1: To save money
Hump's $12M contract already comes off the books after this season.
Reason 2: To free cap space right now
Unless you want the money freed up now so that Boston can go after a free agent, but even then why? This year the Celtics are somewhere in between garbage and mediocre. Adding a MLE player sure as hell will not make the Celtics even remotely competitive this year.
Reason 3: To get Bynum on the team
Bynum mentally is probably the second worst NBA player in this league after Dwight...hell he might even be WORSE than Dwight. The guy is a medical disaster who's career may be over before the end of this season (see: Brandon Roy). The only difference is that Roy was actually a good player with a good attitude. Bynum is a talented player with a horrible attitude.
Hump has probably been out most consistent (and arguably our best) player this year. He has played with the same outstanding effort every night regardless of whether he plays 5 minutes or 25 - he's been the ultimate professional. No complaining, even at the start of the season when he was practically a bench warmer. He's pretty much putting up double-double numbers on a per-36 minute basis, his attitude has been great AND he's a $12M expiring contract. He should actually have pretty good value as a trade asset so why trade him for a useless tub that nobody wants?
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Actually I would keep Humphries and re-sign him for 2/12 after the season....he is incredibly effective
Agreed if bass is traded id want Ainge to look at resigning hump
Also I think it's bad karma to trade a good team player,teammate for one of the worst in league to save money
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Bynum doesn't wanna play in Cleveland.
He doesn't want to play period.
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Actually I would keep Humphries and re-sign him for 2/12 after the season....he is incredibly effective
Agreed if bass is traded id want Ainge to look at resigning hump
Also I think it's bad karma to trade a good team player,teammate for one of the worst in league to save money
I was all for the trade (if Hump isn't in our plans), but you are right. It really stinks to trade a good team mate for a cancer to save money.
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I would pass on Bynum if he played for free..he is trouble and wouldn't want him on this team
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I don't get it...why would we do this?
Reason 1: To save money
Hump's $12M contract already comes off the books after this season.
Reason 2: To free cap space right now
Unless you want the money freed up now so that Boston can go after a free agent, but even then why? This year the Celtics are somewhere in between garbage and mediocre. Adding a MLE player sure as hell will not make the Celtics even remotely competitive this year.
Reason 3: To get Bynum on the team
Bynum mentally is probably the second worst NBA player in this league after Dwight...hell he might even be WORSE than Dwight. The guy is a medical disaster who's career may be over before the end of this season (see: Brandon Roy). The only difference is that Roy was actually a good player with a good attitude. Bynum is a talented player with a horrible attitude.
Hump has probably been out most consistent (and arguably our best) player this year. He has played with the same outstanding effort every night regardless of whether he plays 5 minutes or 25 - he's been the ultimate professional. No complaining, even at the start of the season when he was practically a bench warmer. He's pretty much putting up double-double numbers on a per-36 minute basis, his attitude has been great AND he's a $12M expiring contract. He should actually have pretty good value as a trade asset so why trade him for a useless tub that nobody wants?
The logic behind this trade would be to save 6mill in a non winning season. This also helps in any future trades this season, it would keep the Cs 6 mill away from the luxury tax giving more flexibility.
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Hw about NO....we do not want Bynum for anyone..ever.....he is the current worst head case in the league.....!!! Once he gets hear, he will revert to his ways....ruin all aspects of TEAM inside and out....there is no saving this guy..!!!
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No.
How about Humphries and Green for Gasol though?
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Hw about NO....we do not want Bynum for anyone..ever.....he is the current worst head case in the league.....!!! Once he gets hear, he will revert to his ways....ruin all aspects of TEAM inside and out....there is no saving this guy..!!!
So you wouldn't deal Crash for him?
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One positive to this deal:
Bynum's got a tradeable, non-guaranteed contract for next year. So does Bogans.
In theory, you could combine those two non-guaranteed deals with some other assets to land a max free agent. Plus, we'd still have the trade exception to bring in another player.
I'm not sure that we'd have enough room under the luxury tax apron to make all that work, or who there are for free agents / guys on the trade block. It's the most realistic way of landing a premium free agent in a trade / S&T, though.
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No need to to blow the 6 million in cap savings right away on an MLE sized contract. Fill out the roster with vet min guys like Jason Collins and then make proper moves in the off season
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I don't get it...why would we do this?
Reason 1: To save money
Hump's $12M contract already comes off the books after this season.
Reason 2: To free cap space right now
Unless you want the money freed up now so that Boston can go after a free agent, but even then why? This year the Celtics are somewhere in between garbage and mediocre. Adding a MLE player sure as hell will not make the Celtics even remotely competitive this year.
Reason 3: To get Bynum on the team
Bynum mentally is probably the second worst NBA player in this league after Dwight...hell he might even be WORSE than Dwight. The guy is a medical disaster who's career may be over before the end of this season (see: Brandon Roy). The only difference is that Roy was actually a good player with a good attitude. Bynum is a talented player with a horrible attitude.
Hump has probably been out most consistent (and arguably our best) player this year. He has played with the same outstanding effort every night regardless of whether he plays 5 minutes or 25 - he's been the ultimate professional. No complaining, even at the start of the season when he was practically a bench warmer. He's pretty much putting up double-double numbers on a per-36 minute basis, his attitude has been great AND he's a $12M expiring contract. He should actually have pretty good value as a trade asset so why trade him for a useless tub that nobody wants?
Id do it bc bynums contract is line Erik dampers from a few years ago. Dallas used that contract to acquire Tyson chandler for nothing. They won a title. It could basically be used in a max deal sign and trade for any max guy next year.
The dust chip:
Read these links. Roy points to this too with his comments about adding bogans to it.
http://mavericks.scout.com/2/1021263.html
http://m.bleacherreport.com/articles/459265-dampiers-odd-contract-makes-him-nbas-dust-chip
For all those really wanting us to get a melo type player, this is how it realistically gets done without destroying our roster.
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Keep Humphries...If he starts and Rondo makes successful comeback the C 's will have a better team last years.