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Title: With 6 weeks till the trade deadline, is anyone safe? What are you hoping for ?
Post by: chambers on January 04, 2014, 08:36:18 AM
So there's slightly over 6 weeks until the trade deadline. Rondo may be back by the end of January but it's doubtful he plays any meaningful minutes till February.

So who is safe? And who is likely to go?
I think the most likely players to go are Bass, Avery Bradley and Courtney Lee. Humphries and Bogans are there too with their expirings.

The Western conference semi-contenders are going to need to beef up and teams like Portland, Houston and the Clippers may look to either shore up their benches or maintain future flexibility.

Realistically, I don't think anyone is safe. Everyone will be shopped because it's Ainge's job to see what kind of value he can get back in return. Rondo and Sully are the two safest but they will also be the two highest in demand.

For me the most telling part about our future, and his future plans will be how hard he tries to secure a top 10 pick over the next 6-7 weeks.
*I think to do so, he'll have to move Bass and Bradley. Even a few small moves like this would surely cement us in the bottom 10 teams given their roles on our team.
It's not like they're great players, their stats are average to below average but they are great role players/bench guys on any contender and thus are keeping us in that category of team that makes the playoffs simply because everyone sucks more than us- which he recently stated was not the best outcome for the Celtics this year.

OR, does Ainge simply shop around, but ultimately stand pat and let this team play it out if nothing above average presents itself? It seems doing so is meddling in mediocrity ( by keeping this squad together) which isn't Ainge's style- but he may feel that's the best option long term. It also depends on what he values more...the lottery pick or the value in return he gets for guys like Bass and Lee.
My hope is that he moves as many older vets as possible, and even if the returns are lower than expected, that he pulls the trigger so our young guys and rookies get as much time as possible. I would not be surprised to see Avery Bradley moved, so Courtney Lee can build up his own trade value come draft night- bringing Brooks in as a rotation two guard.

It's going to be an exciting 6 weeks because if moves are made, there's a great chance they'll be indicative of his long term plans.

What do you think will happen?
What do you hope will happen?

Fire away.
Title: Re: With 6 weeks till the trade deadline, is anyone safe? What are you hoping for ?
Post by: BleedGreen1989 on January 04, 2014, 08:45:54 AM
I don't see Avery being traded. Teams usually don't trade for RFA unless they are stars.

I think I'm the last guy to hop off the Lee bandwagon. He's solid, but no real place on this team.

Bass should be able to be moved fairly easy. I doubt Danny will get much for him but maybe a late first? Disappointing prospect?

I'd be absolutely floored to see Rondo get traded. IF he gets moved, it'll be this summer.

Humphries would be a terrific addition for contenders, but his large salary may make it hard to match.
Title: Re: With 6 weeks till the trade deadline, is anyone safe? What are you hoping for ?
Post by: More Banners on January 04, 2014, 09:12:56 AM
I don't see Avery being traded. Teams usually don't trade for RFA unless they are stars.

I think I'm the last guy to hop off the Lee bandwagon. He's solid, but no real place on this team.

Bass should be able to be moved fairly easy. I doubt Danny will get much for him but maybe a late first? Disappointing prospect?

I'd be absolutely floored to see Rondo get traded. IF he gets moved, it'll be this summer.

Humphries would be a terrific addition for contenders, but his large salary may make it hard to match.

The only thing about Lee is that he and Rondo are the only guards under contract for next year, pretty much.  I really wouldn't want to fill out an entire new roster if Bradley and Crawford get long term offers.

But I would make sense to move his contract to resign Bradley.
Title: Re: With 6 weeks till the trade deadline, is anyone safe? What are you hoping for ?
Post by: Celtics4ever on January 04, 2014, 09:38:43 AM
If we are going after Lowry them Rondo becomes expendable.   I could see us trying to pawn him off on Detroit for Monroe.  Lowry is a good passer not great like Rondo but he is a better shooter.   Monroe would be your C, Sully PF and and Green SF.  If this happens they keep AB at SG. 

However, I heard AB was the guy we are dangling for Lowry.
Title: Re: With 6 weeks till the trade deadline, is anyone safe? What are you hoping for ?
Post by: BleedGreen1989 on January 04, 2014, 09:44:37 AM
If we are going after Lowry them Rondo becomes expendable.   I could see us trying to pawn him off on Detroit for Monroe.  Lowry is a good passer not great like Rondo but he is a better shooter.   Monroe would be your C, Sully PF and and Green SF.  If this happens they keep AB at SG. 

However, I heard AB was the guy we are dangling for Lowry.

Source on Lowry trade?
Title: Re: With 6 weeks till the trade deadline, is anyone safe? What are you hoping for ?
Post by: D.o.s. on January 04, 2014, 10:04:02 AM
If we are going after Lowry them Rondo becomes expendable.   I could see us trying to pawn him off on Detroit for Monroe.  Lowry is a good passer not great like Rondo but he is a better shooter.   Monroe would be your C, Sully PF and and Green SF.  If this happens they keep AB at SG. 

However, I heard AB was the guy we are dangling for Lowry.

Source on Lowry trade?

http://www.cbssports.com/nba/writer/ken-berger/24396660/asik-staying-put-for-now-and-more-nba-trade-buzz

I don't know where the Bradley bit came from.
Title: Re: With 6 weeks till the trade deadline, is anyone safe? What are you hoping for ?
Post by: BleedGreen1989 on January 04, 2014, 10:10:50 AM
If we are going after Lowry them Rondo becomes expendable.   I could see us trying to pawn him off on Detroit for Monroe.  Lowry is a good passer not great like Rondo but he is a better shooter.   Monroe would be your C, Sully PF and and Green SF.  If this happens they keep AB at SG. 

However, I heard AB was the guy we are dangling for Lowry.

Source on Lowry trade?

http://www.cbssports.com/nba/writer/ken-berger/24396660/asik-staying-put-for-now-and-more-nba-trade-buzz

I don't know where the Bradley bit came from.

Yeah, I was referring to his Bradley comment.
Title: Re: With 6 weeks till the trade deadline, is anyone safe? What are you hoping for ?
Post by: More Banners on January 04, 2014, 11:03:52 AM
If we are going after Lowry them Rondo becomes expendable.   I could see us trying to pawn him off on Detroit for Monroe.  Lowry is a good passer not great like Rondo but he is a better shooter.   Monroe would be your C, Sully PF and and Green SF.  If this happens they keep AB at SG. 

However, I heard AB was the guy we are dangling for Lowry.

Lowry as 3rd guard?
Title: Re: With 6 weeks till the trade deadline, is anyone safe? What are you hoping for ?
Post by: wedman8 on January 04, 2014, 11:32:16 AM
Would you make this trade happen if you were Danny?

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=n55mrhh
Title: Re: With 6 weeks till the trade deadline, is anyone safe? What are you hoping for ?
Post by: GreenWarrior on January 04, 2014, 11:34:02 AM
I am hoping we get rid of our bad contracts. and while I'm sure no one is safe, I believe DA would listen to any offer, and consider any offer that made us better. I honestly feel rondo will not be traded and that it's probably never been considered.
Title: Re: With 6 weeks till the trade deadline, is anyone safe? What are you hoping for ?
Post by: PhoSita on January 04, 2014, 11:34:55 AM
I'm hoping to see as many of the vets unloaded for expiring contracts and minor assets as possible.

The team isn't very good.  If there's any way to unload future salary and clear up more playing time for the younger guys (especially Vitor and KO), I'd love to see that happen.
Title: Re: With 6 weeks till the trade deadline, is anyone safe? What are you hoping for ?
Post by: Endless Paradise on January 04, 2014, 11:36:11 AM
If we are going after Lowry them Rondo becomes expendable.   I could see us trying to pawn him off on Detroit for Monroe.  Lowry is a good passer not great like Rondo but he is a better shooter.   Monroe would be your C, Sully PF and and Green SF.  If this happens they keep AB at SG. 

However, I heard AB was the guy we are dangling for Lowry.

Lowry as 3rd guard?

If you want to deal with the headache he'd cause by not starting on what he'd consider a mediocre team, sure.  Houston traded him specifically for that reason and he's notoriously headstrong.  Plus, he's going to be looking for a pay increase (which he'll certainly get with the season he's having) and it doesn't make much sense to me to overpay for a guy you want to use as a backup.
Title: Re: With 6 weeks till the trade deadline, is anyone safe? What are you hoping for ?
Post by: BleedGreen1989 on January 04, 2014, 11:37:51 AM
If we are going after Lowry them Rondo becomes expendable.   I could see us trying to pawn him off on Detroit for Monroe.  Lowry is a good passer not great like Rondo but he is a better shooter.   Monroe would be your C, Sully PF and and Green SF.  If this happens they keep AB at SG. 

However, I heard AB was the guy we are dangling for Lowry.

Lowry as 3rd guard?

If you want to deal with the headache he'd caused by not starting on what he'd consider a mediocre team, sure.  Houston traded him specifically for that reason and he's notoriously headstrong.

A lot of the things people say about Lowry, people tend to say about Rajon Rondo.
Title: Re: With 6 weeks till the trade deadline, is anyone safe? What are you hoping for ?
Post by: Evantime34 on January 04, 2014, 11:40:30 AM
I'm hoping to see as many of the vets unloaded for expiring contracts and minor assets as possible.

The team isn't very good.  If there's any way to unload future salary and clear up more playing time for the younger guys (especially Vitor and KO), I'd love to see that happen.
Completely agree.

On a side note, I hop Rondo comes back soon because I expect him to really help the stock of Bass and Green who are the two guys that I think we could trade and would actually bring us back something worthwile.
Title: Re: With 6 weeks till the trade deadline, is anyone safe? What are you hoping for ?
Post by: PhoSita on January 04, 2014, 11:44:59 AM
I'm hoping to see as many of the vets unloaded for expiring contracts and minor assets as possible.

The team isn't very good.  If there's any way to unload future salary and clear up more playing time for the younger guys (especially Vitor and KO), I'd love to see that happen.
Completely agree.

On a side note, I hop Rondo comes back soon because I expect him to really help the stock of Bass and Green who are the two guys that I think we could trade and would actually bring us back something worthwile.

I'd like to see Rondo come back and look good and healthy, too.  Though I must admit I'd prefer that his healthy return not vault the team to just barely making the playoffs.
Title: Re: With 6 weeks till the trade deadline, is anyone safe? What are you hoping for ?
Post by: Evantime34 on January 04, 2014, 11:55:19 AM
I'm hoping to see as many of the vets unloaded for expiring contracts and minor assets as possible.

The team isn't very good.  If there's any way to unload future salary and clear up more playing time for the younger guys (especially Vitor and KO), I'd love to see that happen.
Completely agree.

On a side note, I hop Rondo comes back soon because I expect him to really help the stock of Bass and Green who are the two guys that I think we could trade and would actually bring us back something worthwile.

I'd like to see Rondo come back and look good and healthy, too.  Though I must admit I'd prefer that his healthy return not vault the team to just barely making the playoffs.
My dream scenario is we play poorly on this west coast trip (which is probable), move all the veterans or young players and picks. Then Rondo comes back and we go on a winning streak, but end up just missing out on the playoffs. After that the basketball gods make up for us not getting high picks in the Duncan and Durant drafts by vaulting us into the top 3.

At that point our winning streak will have enticed free agents by letting them know w have good young players as well as adding a top flight draft pick.
Title: Re: With 6 weeks till the trade deadline, is anyone safe? What are you hoping for ?
Post by: Endless Paradise on January 04, 2014, 11:55:55 AM
If we are going after Lowry them Rondo becomes expendable.   I could see us trying to pawn him off on Detroit for Monroe.  Lowry is a good passer not great like Rondo but he is a better shooter.   Monroe would be your C, Sully PF and and Green SF.  If this happens they keep AB at SG. 

However, I heard AB was the guy we are dangling for Lowry.

Lowry as 3rd guard?

If you want to deal with the headache he'd caused by not starting on what he'd consider a mediocre team, sure.  Houston traded him specifically for that reason and he's notoriously headstrong.

A lot of the things people say about Lowry, people tend to say about Rajon Rondo.

It's not just stuff people say about him; it's stuff he's acknowledged and owned up to:

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“There was a stretch there where I wasn’t playing as much, I was only playing 15, 16 minutes a game so it was one of those things where I came into keep the lead or maintain (it)” said Lowry. “It definitely set me back, set us back, with that type of relationship; it’s definitely taken longer but that’s what happens when you have a brand new team pretty much. We had new pieces coming in, and we made a trade, other guys coming back, had injuries in and out, it always sets you back a little bit.”

http://www.thestar.com/sports/raptors/2013/04/15/raptors_point_guard_kyle_lowry_says_and_coach_dwane_casey_are_building_a_solid_bond.html

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Lowry does not believe he and Goran Dragic, his successor as the starting point guard this season, will both return to the roster next season. Lowry was even less confident he and Rockets coach Kevin McHale can successfully coexist.

"I don't think so," Lowry, 26, said. "I honestly think it would be tough. Things have to be addressed. The situation would have to be addressed.

"If things aren't addressed coaching-wise, I guess I have to be moved.""We're both capable starters. We both want it. It's going to have to be a situation where they make a decision on one of us.

http://blog.chron.com/ultimaterockets/2012/05/disgruntled-lowry-feels-its-his-time-to-move-on/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
Title: Re: With 6 weeks till the trade deadline, is anyone safe? What are you hoping for ?
Post by: Surferdad on January 04, 2014, 12:17:27 PM
So there's slightly over 6 weeks until the trade deadline. Rondo may be back by the end of January but it's doubtful he plays any meaningful minutes till February.

So who is safe? And who is likely to go?
I think the most likely players to go are Bass, Avery Bradley and Courtney Lee. Humphries and Bogans are there too with their expirings.

The Western conference semi-contenders are going to need to beef up and teams like Portland, Houston and the Clippers may look to either shore up their benches or maintain future flexibility.

Realistically, I don't think anyone is safe. Everyone will be shopped because it's Ainge's job to see what kind of value he can get back in return. Rondo and Sully are the two safest but they will also be the two highest in demand.

For me the most telling part about our future, and his future plans will be how hard he tries to secure a top 10 pick over the next 6-7 weeks.
*I think to do so, he'll have to move Bass and Bradley. Even a few small moves like this would surely cement us in the bottom 10 teams given their roles on our team.
It's not like they're great players, their stats are average to below average but they are great role players/bench guys on any contender and thus are keeping us in that category of team that makes the playoffs simply because everyone sucks more than us- which he recently stated was not the best outcome for the Celtics this year.

OR, does Ainge simply shop around, but ultimately stand pat and let this team play it out if nothing above average presents itself? It seems doing so is meddling in mediocrity ( by keeping this squad together) which isn't Ainge's style- but he may feel that's the best option long term. It also depends on what he values more...the lottery pick or the value in return he gets for guys like Bass and Lee.
My hope is that he moves as many older vets as possible, and even if the returns are lower than expected, that he pulls the trigger so our young guys and rookies get as much time as possible. I would not be surprised to see Avery Bradley moved, so Courtney Lee can build up his own trade value come draft night- bringing Brooks in as a rotation two guard.

It's going to be an exciting 6 weeks because if moves are made, there's a great chance they'll be indicative of his long term plans.

What do you think will happen?
What do you hope will happen?

Fire away.
I understand why you started this thread, but it is really an impossible question to answer.  Anyone can be traded (even Rondo or Sully), depending upn what comes back in return. What are the greatest needs of this team?  A defensive rebounding center?  A true SG?  Who is available? Even if those questions can be answered, Ainge may do nothing. The team sucks right now and are headed out on a tough WC road trip. If Danny is tanking, his best move may be no move.  Let Hump and Bogans expire. Pick up the pieces post-season when the draft order is known.
Title: Re: With 6 weeks till the trade deadline, is anyone safe? What are you hoping for ?
Post by: BballTim on January 04, 2014, 12:29:55 PM
If we are going after Lowry them Rondo becomes expendable.   I could see us trying to pawn him off on Detroit for Monroe.  Lowry is a good passer not great like Rondo but he is a better shooter.   Monroe would be your C, Sully PF and and Green SF.  If this happens they keep AB at SG. 

However, I heard AB was the guy we are dangling for Lowry.

Lowry as 3rd guard?

If you want to deal with the headache he'd caused by not starting on what he'd consider a mediocre team, sure.  Houston traded him specifically for that reason and he's notoriously headstrong.

A lot of the things people say about Lowry, people tend to say about Rajon Rondo.

  One player's been on the same team for his entire career and his team claims to have no interest in trading him, the other (same age) is headed for his 4th team. Obviously the difference in talent affects this but one player's been shopped/traded because of (rumored) issues, the other hasn't.
Title: Re: With 6 weeks till the trade deadline, is anyone safe? What are you hoping for ?
Post by: slamtheking on January 04, 2014, 12:46:18 PM
pretty bland but honest: I hope Danny moves the vets for young players and picks. 

Hump, Bogans, Bass and Lee could all help a contender.  Even if he can't get a pick this year but has to go out to 2016/17/18 to collect that pick, I'm fine with it.  I don't see Wallace going anywhere until he's on the last year of his deal.

it's nothing flashy but I would be more than a bit surprised if at least 2 of the vets  aren't moved in a deal that builds towards the future
Title: Re: With 6 weeks till the trade deadline, is anyone safe? What are you hoping for ?
Post by: More Banners on January 04, 2014, 12:59:03 PM
If we are going after Lowry them Rondo becomes expendable.   I could see us trying to pawn him off on Detroit for Monroe.  Lowry is a good passer not great like Rondo but he is a better shooter.   Monroe would be your C, Sully PF and and Green SF.  If this happens they keep AB at SG. 

However, I heard AB was the guy we are dangling for Lowry.

Lowry as 3rd guard?

If you want to deal with the headache he'd caused by not starting on what he'd consider a mediocre team, sure.  Houston traded him specifically for that reason and he's notoriously headstrong.

A lot of the things people say about Lowry, people tend to say about Rajon Rondo.

It's not just stuff people say about him; it's stuff he's acknowledged and owned up to:

Quote
“There was a stretch there where I wasn’t playing as much, I was only playing 15, 16 minutes a game so it was one of those things where I came into keep the lead or maintain (it)” said Lowry. “It definitely set me back, set us back, with that type of relationship; it’s definitely taken longer but that’s what happens when you have a brand new team pretty much. We had new pieces coming in, and we made a trade, other guys coming back, had injuries in and out, it always sets you back a little bit.”

http://www.thestar.com/sports/raptors/2013/04/15/raptors_point_guard_kyle_lowry_says_and_coach_dwane_casey_are_building_a_solid_bond.html

Quote
Lowry does not believe he and Goran Dragic, his successor as the starting point guard this season, will both return to the roster next season. Lowry was even less confident he and Rockets coach Kevin McHale can successfully coexist.

"I don't think so," Lowry, 26, said. "I honestly think it would be tough. Things have to be addressed. The situation would have to be addressed.

"If things aren't addressed coaching-wise, I guess I have to be moved.""We're both capable starters. We both want it. It's going to have to be a situation where they make a decision on one of us.

http://blog.chron.com/ultimaterockets/2012/05/disgruntled-lowry-feels-its-his-time-to-move-on/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

While I can't imagine anyone not getting along with Kevin McHale, I can surely imagine a young headstrong player wanting time and feeling at least equal to his usurper.

I can see that player going at it like hell against Rondo in practice, and being a great 3rd guard in a 3-guard rotation on a team making a run, which we might do if we had ROndo back and an upper tier center in the near future.
Title: Re: With 6 weeks till the trade deadline, is anyone safe? What are you hoping for ?
Post by: Celtics4ever on January 04, 2014, 02:50:46 PM
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Source on Lowry trade?

It is or was not a reliable source, my son read it on a Facebook Celtics Fan page so it is next to worthless folks, my bad.
   
Title: Re: With 6 weeks till the trade deadline, is anyone safe? What are you hoping for ?
Post by: LooseCannon on January 05, 2014, 12:22:02 AM
I expect the Celtics to acquire zero first-round picks between now and the trade deadline.

What I hope to happen is that Ainge makes a ridiculous trade that catches everyone by surprise, first by being consummated without a rumor, second by being a buyer rather than a seller, and third by swindling another GM on a level not thought possible.
Title: Re: With 6 weeks till the trade deadline, is anyone safe? What are you hoping for ?
Post by: Mattson on January 05, 2014, 05:45:13 AM
Either keep this team intact (improvement should come through the Draft) or trade pieces that land assets (either a young stud or a pick).

Keep Rondo.
Title: Re: With 6 weeks till the trade deadline, is anyone safe? What are you hoping for ?
Post by: pokeKingCurtis on January 05, 2014, 08:21:24 AM
I'm a little disappointed after the Asik trade fell through. Am itching for a semi-major trade.

I know standing pat will serve us very well, but improving the team (ideally with a big) would be very very nice.

We would have multiple picks to go along with the said improvement. We'd likely be giving up pieces that don't fit and aren't in the big picture. We'd be looking very attractive as an FA destination with coach Stevens.




I also hope and think Ainge finds some use for the TE.
Title: Re: With 6 weeks till the trade deadline, is anyone safe? What are you hoping for ?
Post by: SHAQATTACK on January 05, 2014, 08:53:53 AM
Not expecting anything .....unless DA finds a way to get Asik .......which I have little faith at this point.

Hoping DA get on board the tank train a he sees his pick vales climbing .......tank the last six games for sure.

Title: Re: With 6 weeks till the trade deadline, is anyone safe? What are you hoping for ?
Post by: D.o.s. on January 05, 2014, 09:29:03 AM
I expect the Celtics to acquire zero first-round picks between now and the trade deadline.

What I hope to happen is that Ainge makes a ridiculous trade that catches everyone by surprise, first by being consummated without a rumor, second by being a buyer rather than a seller, and third by swindling another GM on a level not thought possible.

I kind of agree with this, even though I'm struggling to see it happen outside my mind's eye.
Title: Re: With 6 weeks till the trade deadline, is anyone safe? What are you hoping for ?
Post by: billysan on January 05, 2014, 10:03:56 AM
I want to see more playing time for Vitor and Olynyk with Sullinger playing PF instead of center. I want to see Rondo return healthy before the end of the season. I want to see a trade only if it improves us or brings back first round picks with some possible value.

I hope we draft well and find a decent trade. I hope Olynyk and Vitor improve significantly for next season. I hope we keep both of these with Sullinger as our nucleous of bigs. I hope a Marquee FA becomes available and we have the cap space to sign him this offseason.

I havent seen anyone mention Marshon Brooks. He is another likely expiring that could net us 2+ million in cap space or trade filler. With 12+ million for Hump, 5+ million for Bogans and 2+ million for Brooks we should be well under the cap and able to sign someone.

Just as a side note, has anyone else noticed there is a bunch of wings/PG's in the upper tier (top 20) of this draft and not many big men? Like 16 to 4 by my count. For me this means we may want to hang on to our 'extra' bigs as long as possible because teams who do not land a needed big in the draft will likely want to trade for one.
Title: Re: With 6 weeks till the trade deadline, is anyone safe? What are you hoping for ?
Post by: ben_from_boston on January 05, 2014, 10:22:06 AM
Don't trade Rondo.
Due to his off-the-charts intelligence and ability to abstract detail he will always be learning and adapting, always improving. There is no ceiling for Rondo because, for him, playing basketball is a continuous education. Even when he will be 35 years old. This separates him from 99% of the NBA.
Most NBA think they're alpha. Compared to collegiate, sure. Not compared to Rondo.
The regular season is Rondo's laboratory, his testing ground. Then he literally bends the game to his will in the the playoffs (Lebron can do this, KD can, Melo can't, blah blah beta).
I do understand that anyone is expendable depending on the return. But really.

Yeah I know, I sound like I'm riding Rondo's you-know-what. Whatever.

Keep this guy.

And all y'all foolish if you think he can't shoot..
Title: Re: With 6 weeks till the trade deadline, is anyone safe? What are you hoping for ?
Post by: wdleehi on January 05, 2014, 11:09:48 AM
Trade Wallace for any shorter contract. 


Bass and Lee for shorter contracts or cheaper role players.


Green for a shorter contract and a lower payed, not reached their near star ceiling young player.  (Or a first round draft pick of a team trying to make the eighth seed)
Title: Re: With 6 weeks till the trade deadline, is anyone safe? What are you hoping for ?
Post by: biggs on January 05, 2014, 11:10:40 AM
Doubt this would happens, but how about Lou Williams?
Title: Re: With 6 weeks till the trade deadline, is anyone safe? What are you hoping for ?
Post by: D.o.s. on January 05, 2014, 11:37:05 AM
Doubt this would happens, but how about Lou Williams?

We already have Crawford, right?
Title: Re: With 6 weeks till the trade deadline, is anyone safe? What are you hoping for ?
Post by: tyrone biggums on January 05, 2014, 11:47:24 AM
Players that are safe
-Olynyk
-Sullinger
-Rondo

Players that are probably safe
-Wallace (contract)
-Bradley (Ainge sees him as part of the future it seems)
-Vitor
-Green

Trade Bait
-Humphries
-Lee
-Bogans
-Pressey
-Clippers 2015
-Crawford
-Bass

What I think will happen is that Ainge takes on another contract using Hump's expiring in order to collect another 2014 1st. Lee and Bass will be moved for an expiring and a pick as the first move would probably put the Celtics closer to the luxury tax threshold. I do not think Asik is coming even though it makes sense. Could also see Ainge package Bass Lee and the 2015 Clippers pick for an expiring and a 2014 pick too.
Title: Re: With 6 weeks till the trade deadline, is anyone safe? What are you hoping for ?
Post by: Sketch5 on January 05, 2014, 12:13:14 PM
Players that are safe
-Olynyk
-Sullinger
-Rondo

Players that are probably safe
-Wallace (contract)
-Bradley (Ainge sees him as part of the future it seems)
-Vitor
-Green

Trade Bait
-Humphries
-Lee
-Bogans
-Pressey
-Clippers 2015
-Crawford
-Bass

What I think will happen is that Ainge takes on another contract using Hump's expiring in order to collect another 2014 1st. Lee and Bass will be moved for an expiring and a pick as the first move would probably put the Celtics closer to the luxury tax threshold. I do not think Asik is coming even though it makes sense. Could also see Ainge package Bass Lee and the 2015 Clippers pick for an expiring and a 2014 pick too.

This is very realistic.
 
I can see Green getting moved along with any first rounders that DA can pick up to make a move for Parker on draft night. I also wouldn't be surprised if Rondo was in the mix to move up. I hope not, but wouldn't surprise me.
Title: Re: With 6 weeks till the trade deadline, is anyone safe? What are you hoping for ?
Post by: SHAQATTACK on January 05, 2014, 12:27:42 PM
Wiggins and K Love
Title: Re: With 6 weeks till the trade deadline, is anyone safe? What are you hoping for ?
Post by: Jailan34 on January 05, 2014, 01:03:14 PM
Players that are safe
-Olynyk
-Sullinger
-Rondo

Players that are probably safe
-Wallace (contract)
-Bradley (Ainge sees him as part of the future it seems)
-Vitor
-Green

Trade Bait
-Humphries
-Lee
-Bogans
-Pressey
-Clippers 2015
-Crawford
-Bass

What I think will happen is that Ainge takes on another contract using Hump's expiring in order to collect another 2014 1st. Lee and Bass will be moved for an expiring and a pick as the first move would probably put the Celtics closer to the luxury tax threshold. I do not think Asik is coming even though it makes sense. Could also see Ainge package Bass Lee and the 2015 Clippers pick for an expiring and a 2014 pick too.

This is very realistic.
 
I can see Green getting moved along with any first rounders that DA can pick up to make a move for Parker on draft night. I also wouldn't be surprised if Rondo was in the mix to move up. I hope not, but wouldn't surprise me.

If a team is bad enough to acquire the number 1 overall pick, they will NOT be trading it for Jeff Green and some first rounders. They'd be crazy.
Title: Re: With 6 weeks till the trade deadline, is anyone safe? What are you hoping for ?
Post by: Surferdad on January 05, 2014, 03:19:37 PM
Players that are safe
-Olynyk
-Sullinger
-Rondo

Players that are probably safe
-Wallace (contract)
-Bradley (Ainge sees him as part of the future it seems)
-Vitor
-Green

Trade Bait
-Humphries
-Lee
-Bogans
-Pressey
-Clippers 2015
-Crawford
-Bass

What I think will happen is that Ainge takes on another contract using Hump's expiring in order to collect another 2014 1st. Lee and Bass will be moved for an expiring and a pick as the first move would probably put the Celtics closer to the luxury tax threshold. I do not think Asik is coming even though it makes sense. Could also see Ainge package Bass Lee and the 2015 Clippers pick for an expiring and a 2014 pick too.

This is very realistic.
 
I can see Green getting moved along with any first rounders that DA can pick up to make a move for Parker on draft night. I also wouldn't be surprised if Rondo was in the mix to move up. I hope not, but wouldn't surprise me.

If a team is bad enough to acquire the number 1 overall pick, they will NOT be trading it for Jeff Green and some first rounders. They'd be crazy.
Correct. It makes no sense to "move down" in this draft if you are in the lottery.

I also not not agree with moving some of our expiring contracts for picks only to acquire other expiring contracts. The way I see it, this team already has plenty of draft picks, so they might as well hold onto Hump, Bogans and Brooks and let them expire.  Then go out and make a splash in the FA market to go with a core of Rondo, Green, Sully, Bradley.
Title: Re: With 6 weeks till the trade deadline, is anyone safe? What are you hoping for ?
Post by: Surferdad on January 05, 2014, 03:23:44 PM
Players that are safe
-Olynyk
-Sullinger
-Rondo

Players that are probably safe
-Wallace (contract)
-Bradley (Ainge sees him as part of the future it seems)
-Vitor
-Green

Trade Bait
-Humphries
-Lee
-Bogans
-Pressey
-Clippers 2015
-Crawford
-Bass

What I think will happen is that Ainge takes on another contract using Hump's expiring in order to collect another 2014 1st. Lee and Bass will be moved for an expiring and a pick as the first move would probably put the Celtics closer to the luxury tax threshold. I do not think Asik is coming even though it makes sense. Could also see Ainge package Bass Lee and the 2015 Clippers pick for an expiring and a 2014 pick too.

This is very realistic.
 
I can see Green getting moved along with any first rounders that DA can pick up to make a move for Parker on draft night. I also wouldn't be surprised if Rondo was in the mix to move up. I hope not, but wouldn't surprise me.

If a team is bad enough to acquire the number 1 overall pick, they will NOT be trading it for Jeff Green and some first rounders. They'd be crazy.
Correct. It makes no sense to "move down" in this draft if you are in the lottery. So the odds of the C's moving up into the lottery are zero.

I also not not agree with moving some of our expiring contracts for picks only to acquire other expiring contracts. The way I see it, this team already has plenty of draft picks, so they might as well hold onto Hump, Bogans and Brooks and let them expire.  Then go out and make a splash in the FA market to go with a core of Rondo, Green, Sully, Bradley.
Title: Re: With 6 weeks till the trade deadline, is anyone safe? What are you hoping for ?
Post by: billysan on January 05, 2014, 04:28:56 PM
Players that are safe
-Olynyk
-Sullinger
-Rondo

Players that are probably safe
-Wallace (contract)
-Bradley (Ainge sees him as part of the future it seems)
-Vitor
-Green

Trade Bait
-Humphries
-Lee
-Bogans
-Pressey
-Clippers 2015
-Crawford
-Bass

What I think will happen is that Ainge takes on another contract using Hump's expiring in order to collect another 2014 1st. Lee and Bass will be moved for an expiring and a pick as the first move would probably put the Celtics closer to the luxury tax threshold. I do not think Asik is coming even though it makes sense. Could also see Ainge package Bass Lee and the 2015 Clippers pick for an expiring and a 2014 pick too.

This is very realistic.
 
I can see Green getting moved along with any first rounders that DA can pick up to make a move for Parker on draft night. I also wouldn't be surprised if Rondo was in the mix to move up. I hope not, but wouldn't surprise me.

If a team is bad enough to acquire the number 1 overall pick, they will NOT be trading it for Jeff Green and some first rounders. They'd be crazy.
Correct. It makes no sense to "move down" in this draft if you are in the lottery.

I also not not agree with moving some of our expiring contracts for picks only to acquire other expiring contracts. The way I see it, this team already has plenty of draft picks, so they might as well hold onto Hump, Bogans and Brooks and let them expire.   Then go out and make a splash in the FA market to go with a core of Rondo, Green, Sully, Bradley.

I agree except I would have no problem including Jeff Green or Avery Bradley in any trade that netted us more future first rounders or a proven rotation level big man preferably a center. Does not have to be a 2014 pick for me. They are replaceable via the draft IMO.