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Beyond the Association => Maine Celtics / G-League => Topic started by: ummidkme on January 03, 2014, 04:20:47 AM

Title: Red Claws Update
Post by: ummidkme on January 03, 2014, 04:20:47 AM
I figure we will need a thread soon about the Red Claws with Brooks down there and Rondo soon to follow (maybe).

BROOKS DEBUTS IN MAINE: MarShon Brooks, assigned to the Maine Red Claws on Wednesday, scored 27 points on 9-of-18 shooting with four rebounds and three assists over 31:23 in his D-League debut. Brooks was a team-best plus-12. During his weekly appearance on Boston sports radio 98.5 the SportsHub, Celtics president of basketball operations Danny Ainge noted, "MarShon, he’s been stuck behind Avery [Bradley] and Courtney [Lee]. Avery is having a terrific year; Courtney is having very good year, also. He hasn’t gotten an opportunity to play in games... [and] we just want him to stay ready. We’re not going to have him there long, he’ll be with us most of the time." Ainge noted Maine is a chance for Brooks to get game reps and stay ready for when an opportunity presents itself with the parent club.

Courtesy of ESPN Celtics Blog

http://espn.go.com/blog/boston/celtics/post/_/id/4709747/notebook-time-to-protect-sullinger#more
Title: Re: Red Claws Update
Post by: dark_lord on January 03, 2014, 02:38:40 PM
i so don't want rondo playing in maine!
Title: Re: Red Claws Update
Post by: ummidkme on January 03, 2014, 03:40:27 PM
More on Brooks: http://www.celticslife.com/2014/01/marshon-brooks-does-his-best-fab-melo.html

More on Rondo: http://espn.go.com/blog/boston/celtics/post/_/id/4709779/rondo-would-embrace-camping-with-claws

Boston Celtics point guard Rajon Rondo confirmed Thursday that a stint with the Maine Red Claws of the NBA Development League is a possibility as he navigates the final stages of his rehab from ACL surgery and said that he'd embrace the idea of being one of the league's first superstars to travel that path.

"I think that’s what [the D-League is] for," Rondo told reporters in Chicago (video HERE) before the Celtics visited the Bulls. "I’d probably be the first guy to do that, but it doesn’t make a difference. I want to make sure I’m healthy and I handle it the right way. I don't want my first [game-like action] to be with the Celtics. I haven't had a preseason. I haven't had a training camp. Right now, this is pretty much my training camp."

Rondo added, "It’s an idea, definitely. That’s more game-like speed. With our schedule, with the Celtics, we don’t get a chance to play a lot of pickup, so [the Red Claws] might be a possibility."

With Rondo preparing to travel out west with the Celtics on a five-game road trip starting Sunday in Oklahoma City, it's unclear when Rondo might join Maine for practice and/or game reps.

"You just never know," said Rondo. "I might pop up and just play. [Reporters] won’t get the memo. You’ll have to catch me on YouTube or something. But I don’t know. It’ll be like an overnight decision."
Title: Re: Red Claws Update
Post by: dark_lord on January 03, 2014, 03:45:50 PM
the "franchise" player should not mess around with the d-league.  if he gets injured playing in a d-league game, its on the organization's head.  i understand rondo being open to the idea, but the execs need to put a stop to it.  play in practice and nba games (even if in small increments and not many minutes)
Title: Re: Red Claws Update
Post by: blink on January 03, 2014, 03:56:37 PM
I agree.  I hope rondo doesn't start playing pick up games with the Red Claws.  He needs to be with the team.

I am fine with Brooks going there, and I honestly hope he doesn't come back to the C's. 

I would MUCH rather have Babb come back.  Babb at least puts in the effort, is a great shooter and probably a better fit for our team.
Title: Re: Red Claws Update
Post by: D.o.s. on January 03, 2014, 04:03:37 PM
You guys don't think that a player like Rondo doing a rehab stint in the D-League would be a good thing for both organizations, not to mention the player himself?

Especially for teams like the Spurs and Celtics who have direct and hybrid (respectively) ownership over D-League teams?

I think that someone like Rondo or Rose doing end-of-rehab games in the D-League is an excellent way to ditch the premise of " messing around and playing pickup games with the Red Claws," reaction to that organization, and that the NBA is eager to lift that label as well.
Title: Re: Red Claws Update
Post by: dark_lord on January 04, 2014, 12:32:59 AM

I think that someone like Rondo or Rose doing end-of-rehab games in the D-League is an excellent way to ditch the premise of " messing around and playing pickup games with the Red Claws," reaction to that organization, and that the NBA is eager to lift that label as well.

i could care less about the image of the nba/d-league....i dont want our best player to potentially get hurt in that environment.  if he gets hurt in practice or in a nba game, so be it....it happens.  but if he ever got hurt in the d-league id be upset and think the execs should be held accountable for allowing that decision to be made.
Title: Re: Red Claws Update
Post by: kraidstar on January 04, 2014, 01:04:30 AM
in baseball guys always go to the minors when coming back from major injuries. and baseball has been doing this forever.
minors are good for rehabbing players because they can compete and get up to speed without having to push themselves as hard as they would in the pros.
so yeah, going to the red claws is a good idea.
Title: Re: Red Claws Update
Post by: dark_lord on January 04, 2014, 01:11:14 AM
in baseball guys always go to the minors when coming back from major injuries. and baseball has been doing this forever.
minors are good for rehabbing players because they can compete and get up to speed without having to push themselves as hard as they would in the pros.
so yeah, going to the red claws is a good idea.

baseball and basketball are apples/oranges.  so the comparison doesn't work imo
Title: Re: Red Claws Update
Post by: Yenohb on January 04, 2014, 09:35:59 PM
Another great game from Brooks in a loss against Springfield:
26 pts, 11 rebs, 6 ast..

Romero Osby also ballin with 24 pts, 7 rebs, 4-6 3PM-A..
Title: Re: Red Claws Update
Post by: Redz on January 04, 2014, 09:41:58 PM
in baseball guys always go to the minors when coming back from major injuries. and baseball has been doing this forever.
minors are good for rehabbing players because they can compete and get up to speed without having to push themselves as hard as they would in the pros.
so yeah, going to the red claws is a good idea.

baseball and basketball are apples/oranges.  so the comparison doesn't work imo

Though the NBA/D-League relationship has definitely been trending more this way than in the past. The name of the league itself speaks to that.  The old CBA was much more of a guns for hire league. 
Title: Re: Red Claws Update
Post by: Sketch5 on January 04, 2014, 10:25:28 PM

I think that someone like Rondo or Rose doing end-of-rehab games in the D-League is an excellent way to ditch the premise of " messing around and playing pickup games with the Red Claws," reaction to that organization, and that the NBA is eager to lift that label as well.

i could care less about the image of the nba/d-league....i dont want our best player to potentially get hurt in that environment.  if he gets hurt in practice or in a nba game, so be it....it happens.  but if he ever got hurt in the d-league id be upset and think the execs should be held accountable for allowing that decision to be made.

He could get hurt first game out in the NBA where the guys are faster and stronger that he's going up against. Jordan played against NC players when he was rehabbing his foot, why should Rondo be any different?

When the D-League came about teams talked about using the system for injured players. This could be beneficial to teams were the coach doesn't have to worry about playing time and winning games, let the D-league coach worry about that. Also the player just has to worry about getting right, and not worry if he's hurting the team.

Players get hurt, part of the game, it really doesn't matter where and when. Didn't Bynum get hurt bowling, are we going to keep players from bowling now?   
Title: Re: Red Claws Update
Post by: SHAQATTACK on January 04, 2014, 10:36:13 PM
Brooks being sent to Siberia

Could there be a colder place than Maine in the dead of winter.  ;D

I d be like send me to FLORIDA.   D League. .........know  I'm  sayn
Title: Re: Red Claws Update
Post by: dark_lord on January 05, 2014, 08:59:12 PM
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He could get hurt first game out in the NBA where the guys are faster and stronger that he's going up against. Jordan played against NC players when he was rehabbing his foot, why should Rondo be any different?

yes, he could get hurt his first nba game back.  injuries happen.  my point is if he is to get hurt, id rather it be in an nba practice or an nba game.


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Players get hurt, part of the game, it really doesn't matter where and when. Didn't Bynum get hurt bowling, are we going to keep players from bowling now?   

yes injuries are part of the game.  however, for me, it does matter where and when (refer to my earlier post)

\ if he gets hurt in practice or in a nba game, so be it....it happens.  but if he ever got hurt in the d-league id be upset and think the execs should be held accountable for allowing that decision to be made.


as far as the bynum/bowling remark...don't be ridiculous in an attempt to make a point.
Title: Re: Red Claws Update
Post by: D.o.s. on January 05, 2014, 09:06:15 PM
Brooks being sent to Siberia

Could there be a colder place than Maine in the dead of winter.  ;D

I d be like send me to FLORIDA.   D League. .........know  I'm  sayn

Portland's not that bad in the winter. No worse than Boston, anyway.

For what it's worth, PJ and Mike just made all of Sketch's points on the television.
Title: Re: Red Claws Update
Post by: LatterDayCelticsfan on January 06, 2014, 03:14:00 AM
Rondo could also get hurt shovelling snow on the driveway.
Title: Re: Red Claws Update
Post by: pokeKingCurtis on January 06, 2014, 09:21:31 PM
The official CELTICS Youtube channel has Brooks's highlights up. (Not the Red Claws' Youtube channel, not OfficialCelticsHD, the actual official Celtics channel)

They never did this for Fab...maybe they're high on Brooks? Or are they pumping up Brooks's trade value?

What GM in the NBA would use youtube video to scout players anyway...probably Dolan.

Haha.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mahZm1k2U5g
Title: Re: Red Claws Update
Post by: D.o.s. on January 06, 2014, 11:50:06 PM
The RedClaws game is going to be streamed on Youtube tomorrow at 6:30, if you need something to check out other than the Nuggets game.
Title: Re: Red Claws Update
Post by: pokeKingCurtis on January 07, 2014, 12:25:29 AM
The RedClaws game is going to be streamed on Youtube tomorrow at 6:30, if you need something to check out other than the Nuggets game.

All D-League games are streamed free on Youtube, FYI in case anyone doesn't know.
Title: Re: Red Claws Update
Post by: dark_lord on January 12, 2014, 11:34:42 AM
in baseball guys always go to the minors when coming back from major injuries. and baseball has been doing this forever.
minors are good for rehabbing players because they can compete and get up to speed without having to push themselves as hard as they would in the pros.
so yeah, going to the red claws is a good idea.

baseball and basketball are apples/oranges.  so the comparison doesn't work imo

Though the NBA/D-League relationship has definitely been trending more this way than in the past. The name of the league itself speaks to that.  The old CBA was much more of a guns for hire league.

im not comparing the two sports in terms of a minor league, im talking about the difference between the two sports and the ability to get injured playing that sport. 
Title: Re: Red Claws Update
Post by: D.o.s. on January 12, 2014, 12:40:46 PM
in baseball guys always go to the minors when coming back from major injuries. and baseball has been doing this forever.
minors are good for rehabbing players because they can compete and get up to speed without having to push themselves as hard as they would in the pros.
so yeah, going to the red claws is a good idea.

baseball and basketball are apples/oranges.  so the comparison doesn't work imo

Though the NBA/D-League relationship has definitely been trending more this way than in the past. The name of the league itself speaks to that.  The old CBA was much more of a guns for hire league.

im not comparing the two sports in terms of a minor league, im talking about the difference between the two sports and the ability to get injured playing that sport.

You can get injured doing anything, though. That's the point.
Title: Re: Red Claws Update
Post by: LatterDayCelticsfan on January 12, 2014, 11:00:23 PM
So how are the Red Claws actually doing?
Title: Re: Red Claws Update
Post by: pokeKingCurtis on January 25, 2014, 06:20:42 PM
Vitor's there
Title: Re: Red Claws Update
Post by: LatterDayCelticsfan on January 25, 2014, 11:00:17 PM
13 points 7 rebounds 3 assists for Vitor
Title: Re: Red Claws Update
Post by: Smitty77 on January 25, 2014, 11:40:12 PM
13 points 7 rebounds 3 assists for Vitor

AND 6 stinking fouls in LESS than 26 minutes.  OUCH!!!!

Smitty77
Title: Re: Red Claws Update
Post by: Yenohb on January 26, 2014, 04:54:09 AM
I Like Frank Gaines' game.
Title: Re: Red Claws Update
Post by: clover on January 26, 2014, 05:14:28 AM
The official CELTICS Youtube channel has Brooks's highlights up. (Not the Red Claws' Youtube channel, not OfficialCelticsHD, the actual official Celtics channel)

They never did this for Fab...maybe they're high on Brooks? Or are they pumping up Brooks's trade value?

What GM in the NBA would use youtube video to scout players anyway...probably Dolan.

Haha.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mahZm1k2U5g

I guess you got your answer on that one.
Title: Re: Red Claws Update
Post by: LatterDayCelticsfan on February 02, 2014, 01:42:52 PM
Faverani sent back to the claws for some 'breakfast.' Gets 2 double doubles in 2 games and is back in time for the lunch time tip off. Is he being shopped Marshon Brooks style?