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Title: Nets (4-1) at Celtics (1-6) Preseason Game #8 10/23
Post by: FLCeltsFan on October 22, 2013, 09:11:10 PM
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Brooklyn Nets (4-1) at  Boston Celtics (1-6)
Wednesday, October 23, 2013
7:00 PM ET
Preseason Game #8 Road Game #4
TV:   ESPN, CSNNE,YES
Radio: 98.5 The Sports Hub (FM)
TD Garden

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Probable Starters

PG: Jordan Crawford
SG: Avery Bradley
SF: Gerald Wallace
PF: Brandon Bass
C:  Jared Sullinger

Player to Watch
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Celtics fans are still waiting for a break out game from Jeff Green.  This will be his last opportunity in the preseason so hopefully will take his own words to heart and show some aggressiveness in this one.

Celtics Roster
Chris Babb
Brandon Bass
Damen Bell-Holter
Keith Bogans
Avery Bradley
MarShon Brooks
Jordan Crawford
Vitor Faverani
Jeff Green
Kris Humphries
Courtney Lee
Kelly Olynyk
Phil Pressey
Rajon Rondo
DeShawn Sims
Jared Sullinger
Kammron Taylor
Gerald Wallace

Injuries
Rajon Rondo (ACL)  out
Keith Bogans (thumb) questionable

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Probable Starters
PG: Shaun Livingston
SG: Joe Johnson
SF: Alan Anderson
PF: Andray Blatche
C:  Brook Lopez

Player to Watch
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The Celtics are undersized other than Faverani and so Brook Lopez could have a big game. 

Nets Roster
Alan Anderson
Andray Blatche
Reggie Evans
Gary Forbes
Kevin Garnett
Jorge Gutierrez
Marko Jaric
Joe Johnson
Chris Johnson
Andrei Kirilenko
Shaun Livingston
Brook Lopez
Paul Pierce
Mason Plumlee
Tornike Shengelia
Tyshawn Taylor
Mirza Teletovic
Jason Terry
Deron Williams

Injuries
Kevin Garnett (rest) OUT
Paul Pierce  (Rest) OUT
Tornike Shengelia  (knee)OUT
Deron Williams   (ankle)  OUT
Andrei Kirilenko (back)  OUT

Game Notes:  There's no telling who Brad will start.  One of the key matchups would be at center.  Jared Sullinger, who has started at center, would be undersized against Brook Lopez.  I'd like to see Vitor Faverani get his chance to see what he can do against Lopez. 

After their last game, Gerald Wallace had some strong words for his team, calling them out for lack of effort.  According to coach Stevens, they responded with one of their best practices of the preseason on Tuesday.  How they respond in this game will have a lot to say about them as a team.  I expect them to play with energy and effort in this one.

Paul Pierce and Kevin Garnett will sit this one out for rest, and so their first trip back in the regular season will have more meaning.  On the other hand, Jason Terry is expected to make his preseason debut in this game against his former team. 

Keith Bogans practiced on Tuesday and will be a game time decision for this game.  Phil Pressey is expected to return to the rotation after sitting out the past 2 games with a sprained ankle.  Deron Williams and Andrei Kirilenko will be out for the Nets as will Tornike Shengelia. 

Keys to the Game
Play with Energy
Rebound
Defend
Play as a Team

Title: Re: Nets (4-1) at Celtics (1-6) Preseason Game #8 10/23
Post by: LatterDayCelticsfan on October 23, 2013, 02:38:46 PM
Thank goodness preseason is over!
Title: Re: Nets (4-1) at Celtics (1-6) Preseason Game #8 10/23
Post by: bello_man09 on October 23, 2013, 02:49:57 PM
lets go Celtics !!!
Title: Re: Nets (4-1) at Celtics (1-6) Preseason Game #8 10/23
Post by: furball on October 23, 2013, 02:54:20 PM
No Lopez and no Joe Johnson either according to Coach Kidd. 

http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/brooklyn-nets/post/_/id/12996/no-nets-starters-to-play-in-boston?ex_cid=espnapi_public
Title: Re: Nets (4-1) at Celtics (1-6) Preseason Game #8 10/23
Post by: kozlodoev on October 23, 2013, 02:58:48 PM
Time to see Wallace, Green and Olynyk together in the starting lineup.
Title: Re: Nets (4-1) at Celtics (1-6) Preseason Game #8 10/23
Post by: 2short on October 23, 2013, 03:34:24 PM
Time to see Wallace, Green and Olynyk together in the starting lineup.
I'd be okay with that or Fav as starting frontline.  Tough to have final preseason game when we need to see how guys are playing together and we aren't going against starters.  Interesting to watch bradley and terry go at it.
Title: Re: Nets (4-1) at Celtics (1-6) Preseason Game #8 10/23
Post by: kozlodoev on October 23, 2013, 03:41:32 PM
Time to see Wallace, Green and Olynyk together in the starting lineup.
I'd be okay with that or Fav as starting frontline.  Tough to have final preseason game when we need to see how guys are playing together and we aren't going against starters.  Interesting to watch bradley and terry go at it.
Heck, I'd have Olynyk and Fav until Sullinger learns how to stay off the three pointers and the cheeseburgers.
Title: Re: Nets (4-1) at Celtics (1-6) Preseason Game #8 10/23
Post by: hwangjini_1 on October 23, 2013, 04:59:02 PM
Time to see Wallace, Green and Olynyk together in the starting lineup.

geez, if we see a lot of this combo i dont expect many rebounds to fall to the celtics. olynyk is not a good rebounder and he is better than green.

actually, i would think sully would fit better than olynyk here, though i like olynyk's game a lot. sully down low for rebounds works better.

though the best combo in terms of a mix of low post and outside shooting may be:

green, olynyk, and sully. sully down low. olynyk to stretch the floor and shoot. green to shoot and cut to the basket. though i admit defense may be a problem.

of course, pg is still another problem isnt it? ;D

but in any case, thanks to flc and goooooo celtics!!!

Title: Re: Nets (4-1) at Celtics (1-6) Preseason Game #8 10/23
Post by: thirstyboots18 on October 23, 2013, 05:17:22 PM
Hey....the guys from CLNSRadio will be having a pregame podcast with interaction in the CelticsBlog Chat Room at 6:00 p.m. EST.

Come join us for a warmup.
Title: Re: Nets (4-1) at Celtics (1-6) Preseason Game #8 10/23
Post by: D.o.s. on October 23, 2013, 05:30:58 PM
Bold Predictions

Jared Sullinger goes 1-4 on 3 point shots.

Jeff Green has one of those games that inspires fresh debate about the merit of his play.

The Celtics win 98-91

Mike Gorman stops taking the game seriously with 5:31 left in the 2nd quarter.
Title: Re: Nets (4-1) at Celtics (1-6) Preseason Game #8 10/23
Post by: clover on October 23, 2013, 05:32:57 PM
Time to see Wallace, Green and Olynyk together in the starting lineup.

You've got your wish, koz:

A. Sherrod Blakely ‏@SherrodbCSN 43s

Bradley, Wallace, green and Olynyk will start tonight for the #Celtics. The fifth starter likely to be Faverani. #CelticsTalk
Title: Re: Nets (4-1) at Celtics (1-6) Preseason Game #8 10/23
Post by: clover on October 23, 2013, 05:33:52 PM
Time to see Wallace, Green and Olynyk together in the starting lineup.

You've got your wish, koz
Title: Re: Nets (4-1) at Celtics (1-6) Preseason Game #8 10/23
Post by: VitorSullyandKOFan on October 23, 2013, 06:06:00 PM
Time to see Wallace, Green and Olynyk together in the starting lineup.

You've got your wish, koz:

A. Sherrod Blakely ‏@SherrodbCSN 43s

Bradley, Wallace, green and Olynyk will start tonight for the #Celtics. The fifth starter likely to be Faverani. #CelticsTalk

KO and Vitor starting makes me happy!!!!
Title: Re: Nets (4-1) at Celtics (1-6) Preseason Game #8 10/23
Post by: SHAQATTACK on October 23, 2013, 06:58:52 PM
KO and Fav should start........Bass should come off the bench.......he just seems suited , always has  for this role.

I hope Pressey is going tone back.   REAL. Soon .........the young Celtics really need a true Point guard out there.   The team seems so much more fluid when Pressey is playing.

I hate AB At the point spot....not natural for him.

Hope Hump brings his A game.
Title: Re: Nets (4-1) at Celtics (1-6) Preseason Game #8 10/23
Post by: Surferdad on October 23, 2013, 07:07:11 PM
Thank goodness preseason is over!
I am feeling the opposite. I wish preseason could go on forever.... Now the games will actually count!
Title: Re: Nets (4-1) at Celtics (1-6) Preseason Game #8 10/23
Post by: Surferdad on October 23, 2013, 07:09:55 PM
Nice gangsta bling on Abby
Title: Re: Nets (4-1) at Celtics (1-6) Preseason Game #8 10/23
Post by: SCeltic34 on October 23, 2013, 07:10:42 PM
Glad PP and KG stayed in Brooklyn.  Small crowd tonight with the Red Sox game going on.  They deserve a full house for their return with a long, long standing ovation.
Title: Re: Nets (4-1) at Celtics (1-6) Preseason Game #8 10/23
Post by: Who on October 23, 2013, 07:16:33 PM
Nice baseline bounce pass by Olynyk to Faverani.
Title: Re: Nets (4-1) at Celtics (1-6) Preseason Game #8 10/23
Post by: steefp2 on October 23, 2013, 07:16:39 PM
Great instincts by Faverani. Saw that Olynyk was stuck and made the right cut immediately. Good pass aswell.
Title: Re: Nets (4-1) at Celtics (1-6) Preseason Game #8 10/23
Post by: Who on October 23, 2013, 07:18:37 PM
I love big point guards. So nice seeing someone like S.Livingston finishing inside.
Title: Re: Nets (4-1) at Celtics (1-6) Preseason Game #8 10/23
Post by: steefp2 on October 23, 2013, 07:18:45 PM
Offense is terrible. Turrible i say!
Title: Re: Nets (4-1) at Celtics (1-6) Preseason Game #8 10/23
Post by: Birdman on October 23, 2013, 07:20:07 PM
Nets 2nd team is kicking our 1st team behind..going to be a looooong year
Title: Re: Nets (4-1) at Celtics (1-6) Preseason Game #8 10/23
Post by: kozlodoev on October 23, 2013, 07:23:54 PM
Our best lineup so far finally started a game. I like it more than anything else I've seen so far -- yet again. Execution isn't perfect, and these are the Nets' reserves, but there's at least a semblance of an offensive plan. And some rebounding and interior defense (both Olynyk and Faverani were very good with help defense early on).

Although at this rate, Bradley will play himself out in favor of Pressey, too.
Title: Re: Nets (4-1) at Celtics (1-6) Preseason Game #8 10/23
Post by: Who on October 23, 2013, 07:27:00 PM
Backdoor baseline cut by Bradley!

Good pass by J.Crawford.
Title: Re: Nets (4-1) at Celtics (1-6) Preseason Game #8 10/23
Post by: Who on October 23, 2013, 07:29:05 PM
If Faverani keeps playing like this, he is going to need a lot more than 15-20mpg.
Title: Re: Nets (4-1) at Celtics (1-6) Preseason Game #8 10/23
Post by: steefp2 on October 23, 2013, 07:29:16 PM
Great block by Faverani. Really loving this kid but [dang] Crawford is resorting to his old ways. Terrible shot selection.
Title: Re: Nets (4-1) at Celtics (1-6) Preseason Game #8 10/23
Post by: Surferdad on October 23, 2013, 07:29:28 PM
Vitor looks like our starting center.  Couple of blocks, couple of offensive tip outs, a three, size and strength.
Title: Re: Nets (4-1) at Celtics (1-6) Preseason Game #8 10/23
Post by: Tr1boy on October 23, 2013, 07:30:11 PM
Vitor looking great out there. Looks like we have found our starting center for the start of the year
Title: Re: Nets (4-1) at Celtics (1-6) Preseason Game #8 10/23
Post by: timobusa on October 23, 2013, 07:31:04 PM
El Hombre is the man. And yes I am aware that this translates as "A man is the man." LOL
Title: Re: Nets (4-1) at Celtics (1-6) Preseason Game #8 10/23
Post by: blink on October 23, 2013, 07:31:23 PM
If Faverani keeps playing like this, he is going to need a lot more than 15-20mpg.

Exactly.  If Fav can at least protect the rim somewhat we get a lot better on d.  I like his hustle and effort.  Easy to cheer for.
Title: Re: Nets (4-1) at Celtics (1-6) Preseason Game #8 10/23
Post by: BleedGreen1989 on October 23, 2013, 07:33:29 PM
If Faverani keeps playing like this, he is going to need a lot more than 15-20mpg.

Yup.

Fav for team captain!  ;D
Title: Re: Nets (4-1) at Celtics (1-6) Preseason Game #8 10/23
Post by: Who on October 23, 2013, 07:34:32 PM
G: J.Crawford vs Ty Taylor = neutral
G: C.Lee vs Gutierrez = advantage Boston
F: J.Green vs C.Johnson = advantage Boston
F: Bass vs R.Evans = advantage Boston
C: Faverani vs Plumlee = advantage Boston

Brooklyn have a very weak lineup on the floor right now.
Title: Re: Nets (4-1) at Celtics (1-6) Preseason Game #8 10/23
Post by: hpantazo on October 23, 2013, 07:36:00 PM
no Sullinger tonight? Is he hurt?
Title: Re: Nets (4-1) at Celtics (1-6) Preseason Game #8 10/23
Post by: 2short on October 23, 2013, 07:36:52 PM
no Sullinger tonight? Is he hurt?
gorman mentioned he was sick
Title: Re: Nets (4-1) at Celtics (1-6) Preseason Game #8 10/23
Post by: Tr1boy on October 23, 2013, 07:37:30 PM
waive Jcraw please Ainge
Title: Re: Nets (4-1) at Celtics (1-6) Preseason Game #8 10/23
Post by: blink on October 23, 2013, 07:38:06 PM
Fav sits down and we see a lot of easy dribble penetration from the nets.
Title: Re: Nets (4-1) at Celtics (1-6) Preseason Game #8 10/23
Post by: SCeltic34 on October 23, 2013, 07:38:10 PM
That was Crawful.  Gets scored on twice, takes a bad shot, then can't even get it over half court with 5 seconds on the clock.
Title: Re: Nets (4-1) at Celtics (1-6) Preseason Game #8 10/23
Post by: Shamrocker on October 23, 2013, 07:38:25 PM
Don't quite know what Stevens sees in Crawford. I prefer Pressey. Better distributor, better defender, better team player.
Title: Re: Nets (4-1) at Celtics (1-6) Preseason Game #8 10/23
Post by: hpantazo on October 23, 2013, 07:39:07 PM
no Sullinger tonight? Is he hurt?
gorman mentioned he was sick

ah...ok, thanks, TP
Title: Re: Nets (4-1) at Celtics (1-6) Preseason Game #8 10/23
Post by: blink on October 23, 2013, 07:40:31 PM
Nets 2nd unit is pretty good.  Even with a lot of bad shots by blatche the are up and playing better than us.
Title: Re: Nets (4-1) at Celtics (1-6) Preseason Game #8 10/23
Post by: 2short on October 23, 2013, 07:41:37 PM
Don't quite know what Stevens sees in Crawford. I prefer Pressey. Better distributor, better defender, better team player.
yep crawford early in preseason looked like a changed man, last 2-3 games he has regressed to his last year self which is a guy i don't even want on the team
while lee hasn't played that great, he is a team guy and works really hard on defense
Title: Re: Nets (4-1) at Celtics (1-6) Preseason Game #8 10/23
Post by: SHAQATTACK on October 23, 2013, 07:41:58 PM
I must be the only dinosaur left who thinks the Celtics play better with. 7 foot center , or true center to control the paint.

Title: Re: Nets (4-1) at Celtics (1-6) Preseason Game #8 10/23
Post by: Chief on October 23, 2013, 07:44:05 PM
I cut Crawford right now. Tell him to get up, clean out his locker, and leave the arena.
Title: Re: Nets (4-1) at Celtics (1-6) Preseason Game #8 10/23
Post by: Who on October 23, 2013, 07:44:54 PM
These Brooklyn lineups are terrible.

Non-NBA players, third stringers and one below average regular reserve. Awful.
Title: Re: Nets (4-1) at Celtics (1-6) Preseason Game #8 10/23
Post by: Chief on October 23, 2013, 07:45:22 PM
I must be the only dinosaur left who thinks the Celtics play better with. 7 foot center , or true center to control the paint.

Me too.
Title: Re: Nets (4-1) at Celtics (1-6) Preseason Game #8 10/23
Post by: Shamrocker on October 23, 2013, 07:45:46 PM
These Brooklyn lineups are terrible.

Non-NBA players, third stringers and one below average regular reserve. Awful.

And yet we're trailing...
Title: Re: Nets (4-1) at Celtics (1-6) Preseason Game #8 10/23
Post by: timobusa on October 23, 2013, 07:46:16 PM
Rondo like pass by pressey
Title: Re: Nets (4-1) at Celtics (1-6) Preseason Game #8 10/23
Post by: European NBA fan on October 23, 2013, 07:49:09 PM
So Faverani and Pressey are the good news of the preseason. Much more NBA ready than I had feared. Vitor looks like a real steal.
Title: Re: Nets (4-1) at Celtics (1-6) Preseason Game #8 10/23
Post by: SHAQATTACK on October 23, 2013, 07:50:08 PM
Rondo like pass by pressey

Like this kid.......this needs the best point guard  out there.     .....

Title: Re: Nets (4-1) at Celtics (1-6) Preseason Game #8 10/23
Post by: steefp2 on October 23, 2013, 07:51:30 PM
Man i love me some Pressey. Great passes.
Title: Re: Nets (4-1) at Celtics (1-6) Preseason Game #8 10/23
Post by: Shamrocker on October 23, 2013, 07:51:39 PM
Can we start Pressey and sit AB? Maybe I'm getting ahead of myself but .....
Title: Re: Nets (4-1) at Celtics (1-6) Preseason Game #8 10/23
Post by: SHAQATTACK on October 23, 2013, 07:52:37 PM
I  like true. ......centers and true point guards on my  ideal Celtics team



Title: Re: Nets (4-1) at Celtics (1-6) Preseason Game #8 10/23
Post by: Shamrocker on October 23, 2013, 07:53:22 PM
Tommy says " Bradley has always been a scorer." I guess he has a liberal definition of what a "scorer" is.
Title: Re: Nets (4-1) at Celtics (1-6) Preseason Game #8 10/23
Post by: steefp2 on October 23, 2013, 07:55:37 PM
Flopping should be an offensive foul no ? Don't wanna compare it to football (soccer) but there, if you flop (and they notice it or don't buy it) then you get a yellow card (two yellow cards and you're out without a replacement).

Title: Re: Nets (4-1) at Celtics (1-6) Preseason Game #8 10/23
Post by: steefp2 on October 23, 2013, 07:58:50 PM
Edited for profanity.  Please do not do it again. Jason Terry, ofcourse he's knocking down shots now...
Title: Re: Nets (4-1) at Celtics (1-6) Preseason Game #8 10/23
Post by: SHAQATTACK on October 23, 2013, 07:58:57 PM
Team is a mess without Pressey out there.

These guys are use to having a floor coach or leader .......they are not self sufficient like Pierce and Garnet or vet.
Title: Re: Nets (4-1) at Celtics (1-6) Preseason Game #8 10/23
Post by: blink on October 23, 2013, 08:00:57 PM
Ko with a few good smart def series.  If he plays within himself on d is can play smart.
Title: Re: Nets (4-1) at Celtics (1-6) Preseason Game #8 10/23
Post by: VitorSullyandKOFan on October 23, 2013, 08:02:01 PM
I want to see KO in the post.
Title: Re: Nets (4-1) at Celtics (1-6) Preseason Game #8 10/23
Post by: timobusa on October 23, 2013, 08:02:14 PM
I like this back court of Pressey and Bradley.
Title: Re: Nets (4-1) at Celtics (1-6) Preseason Game #8 10/23
Post by: timobusa on October 23, 2013, 08:02:51 PM
Although, I wish, Pressey was 5 inches taller.
Title: Re: Nets (4-1) at Celtics (1-6) Preseason Game #8 10/23
Post by: blink on October 23, 2013, 08:02:56 PM
Livingston is a bad matchup for PP.  PP is too small.  gotta keep Avery on him or lee
Title: Re: Nets (4-1) at Celtics (1-6) Preseason Game #8 10/23
Post by: SHAQATTACK on October 23, 2013, 08:03:11 PM
KO is not a showboat

He is breaking into the league at his own pace.

Smart
Title: Re: Nets (4-1) at Celtics (1-6) Preseason Game #8 10/23
Post by: SHAQATTACK on October 23, 2013, 08:05:52 PM
El Hombre

A actual center..........


Who would have thunk ......
Title: Re: Nets (4-1) at Celtics (1-6) Preseason Game #8 10/23
Post by: bello_man09 on October 23, 2013, 08:06:46 PM
ab keeps smoking these lay ups!!!
Title: Re: Nets (4-1) at Celtics (1-6) Preseason Game #8 10/23
Post by: timobusa on October 23, 2013, 08:06:51 PM
El Hombre can finish with either hand, great instincts too.

FAV!
Title: Re: Nets (4-1) at Celtics (1-6) Preseason Game #8 10/23
Post by: Mazingerz on October 23, 2013, 08:07:04 PM
El Hombre

A actual center..........


Who would have thunk ......

Where does Ainge find these guys?
Title: Re: Nets (4-1) at Celtics (1-6) Preseason Game #8 10/23
Post by: SHAQATTACK on October 23, 2013, 08:07:11 PM
Hombre doing work
Title: Re: Nets (4-1) at Celtics (1-6) Preseason Game #8 10/23
Post by: steefp2 on October 23, 2013, 08:07:17 PM
Faverani beasting. Nimble and strong, inside and outside. Loving it.
Title: Re: Nets (4-1) at Celtics (1-6) Preseason Game #8 10/23
Post by: VitorSullyandKOFan on October 23, 2013, 08:08:34 PM
Maybe I am very optimistic but I think Fav can be a starting caliber player.
Title: Re: Nets (4-1) at Celtics (1-6) Preseason Game #8 10/23
Post by: steefp2 on October 23, 2013, 08:09:45 PM
Maybe I am very optimistic but I think Fav can be a starting caliber player.

Optimism is all we have so go for it. And i'm with you on it.
Title: Re: Nets (4-1) at Celtics (1-6) Preseason Game #8 10/23
Post by: blink on October 23, 2013, 08:10:36 PM
After this first 1/2 is there anyone who can say it is a bad idea to start fav now?  I know I know, just one game but the potential is there and the size is there.
Title: Re: Nets (4-1) at Celtics (1-6) Preseason Game #8 10/23
Post by: Tr1boy on October 23, 2013, 08:10:53 PM
Pressey >>>> Jcraw.

Really liking the Pressey and AB backcourt combo
Title: Re: Nets (4-1) at Celtics (1-6) Preseason Game #8 10/23
Post by: SHAQATTACK on October 23, 2013, 08:11:07 PM
Maybe I am very optimistic but I think Fav can be a starting caliber player.

On this team.......he is ....he is all we have ........

All this worthless power forwards and nothing shooting guards that can't play a lick of team basketball

Small ball sucks a large one.
Title: Re: Nets (4-1) at Celtics (1-6) Preseason Game #8 10/23
Post by: blink on October 23, 2013, 08:12:02 PM
Pressey >>>> Jcraw.

Really liking the Pressey and AB backcourt combo

I agree 100%.  I just wish pressey was taller.
Title: Re: Nets (4-1) at Celtics (1-6) Preseason Game #8 10/23
Post by: VitorSullyandKOFan on October 23, 2013, 08:12:42 PM
Maybe I am very optimistic but I think Fav can be a starting caliber player.

Optimism is all we have so go for it. And i'm with you on it.

He has the tools to be starter

-Rim protection
-Rebounding
-Good Hands
-Solid post game
-Good Finisher
Title: Re: Nets (4-1) at Celtics (1-6) Preseason Game #8 10/23
Post by: Tr1boy on October 23, 2013, 08:12:58 PM
After this first 1/2 is there anyone who can say it is a bad idea to start fav now?  I know I know, just one game but the potential is there and the size is there.

This is the last game of the pre season. Fav has climbed up the charts and should be starter come game 1.

Olynyk not really getting passes again but instead is doing alot of other things for the team. Like fratello is saying, his defense has been excellent
Title: Re: Nets (4-1) at Celtics (1-6) Preseason Game #8 10/23
Post by: European NBA fan on October 23, 2013, 08:13:10 PM
Maybe I am very optimistic but I think Fav can be a starting caliber player.

I believe he might be a bit ahead of the curve compared to how a guy like Pekovic came into the league.
Title: Re: Nets (4-1) at Celtics (1-6) Preseason Game #8 10/23
Post by: European NBA fan on October 23, 2013, 08:15:27 PM
Btw. The reason KG and Pierce travelled with the Nets to Boston:

Steve Bulpett @SteveBHoop
Quote
Pierce and Garnett made Nets rookie Mason Plumlee get them fresh Red Sox gear today. They're in town but not at the Garden.
Title: Re: Nets (4-1) at Celtics (1-6) Preseason Game #8 10/23
Post by: Tr1boy on October 23, 2013, 08:15:37 PM
Pressey >>>> Jcraw.

Really liking the Pressey and AB backcourt combo

I agree 100%.  I just wish pressey was taller.

If he was, likely he be a 1st round pick. In time i can see him becoming a solid backup like JJ Barera is today.
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Post by: Surferdad on October 23, 2013, 08:15:57 PM
Pressey >>>> Jcraw.

Really liking the Pressey and AB backcourt combo

I agree 100%.  I just wish pressey was taller.
Pressey
AB
Green
Sully
Fav
Starting lineup. First off bench: Wallace, Bass.
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Post by: Mazingerz on October 23, 2013, 08:18:54 PM
Pressey >>>> Jcraw.

Really liking the Pressey and AB backcourt combo

I agree 100%.  I just wish pressey was taller.
Pressey
AB
Green
Sully
Fav
Starting lineup. First off bench: Wallace, Bass.

I think Wallace, then KO frst off from the bench than Bass
Title: Re: Nets (4-1) at Celtics (1-6) Preseason Game #8 10/23
Post by: letsgoblue86 on October 23, 2013, 08:20:32 PM
Just caught a glance at Wyc in a box at the Sox game....should he be at TD Garden instead?
Title: Re: Nets (4-1) at Celtics (1-6) Preseason Game #8 10/23
Post by: timobusa on October 23, 2013, 08:21:03 PM
Just caught a glance at Wyc in a box at the Sox game....should he be at TD Garden instead?

He's hanging out with KG and Truth
Title: Re: Nets (4-1) at Celtics (1-6) Preseason Game #8 10/23
Post by: SHAQATTACK on October 23, 2013, 08:29:01 PM
Need that ....version of Jeff Green

Forever
Title: Re: Nets (4-1) at Celtics (1-6) Preseason Game #8 10/23
Post by: Surferdad on October 23, 2013, 08:32:09 PM
Just caught a glance at Wyc in a box at the Sox game....should he be at TD Garden instead?
No way. Sox game much more important. He may be the owner but so what?
Title: Re: Nets (4-1) at Celtics (1-6) Preseason Game #8 10/23
Post by: SHAQATTACK on October 23, 2013, 08:34:15 PM
Hombre and Wallace care.
Title: Re: Nets (4-1) at Celtics (1-6) Preseason Game #8 10/23
Post by: timobusa on October 23, 2013, 08:35:09 PM
El Hombre is a weapon!!!!
Title: Re: Nets (4-1) at Celtics (1-6) Preseason Game #8 10/23
Post by: Surferdad on October 23, 2013, 08:36:16 PM
Three run gapper by Napoli!
Title: Re: Nets (4-1) at Celtics (1-6) Preseason Game #8 10/23
Post by: SHAQATTACK on October 23, 2013, 08:39:11 PM
kO robbed
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Post by: blink on October 23, 2013, 08:41:48 PM
I like Fav with KO.  Good inside out combo.  They just need a lot of game experience.  Would like to see KO look for his shot a bit more.  But like others have said he is playing within himself and not making dumb plays, so that is good .
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Post by: blink on October 23, 2013, 08:42:32 PM
Just what I wanted to see KO!
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Post by: timobusa on October 23, 2013, 08:43:18 PM
Put Pressey in there!
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Post by: timobusa on October 23, 2013, 08:44:19 PM
FAVERANI!!!!!!
Title: Re: Nets (4-1) at Celtics (1-6) Preseason Game #8 10/23
Post by: Surferdad on October 23, 2013, 08:44:36 PM
I'm watching KO on both ends. He is raw and slow and unsure if he should take his shot. Not ready for prime time.
Title: Re: Nets (4-1) at Celtics (1-6) Preseason Game #8 10/23
Post by: VitorSullyandKOFan on October 23, 2013, 08:47:47 PM
Fav with 6 blocks!!!!!
Title: Re: Nets (4-1) at Celtics (1-6) Preseason Game #8 10/23
Post by: timobusa on October 23, 2013, 08:48:55 PM
I'm watching KO on both ends. He is raw and slow and unsure if he should take his shot. Not ready for prime time.

He will be fine.
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Post by: Tr1boy on October 23, 2013, 08:50:14 PM
I love how the more Olynyk plays the better he gets in the game.  He is all over the court right now and in the zone with his jump shot
Title: Re: Nets (4-1) at Celtics (1-6) Preseason Game #8 10/23
Post by: VitorSullyandKOFan on October 23, 2013, 08:50:31 PM
Pressey,AB,Green,KO and Fav should be the starting lineup.
Title: Re: Nets (4-1) at Celtics (1-6) Preseason Game #8 10/23
Post by: SHAQATTACK on October 23, 2013, 08:51:42 PM
KO.  Is efficient

He doesn't waste energy.........he is like Sully,   Way ahead for a rookie big.

He is looking better on defense every game

Thanks Ron Adams !
Title: Re: Nets (4-1) at Celtics (1-6) Preseason Game #8 10/23
Post by: Surferdad on October 23, 2013, 08:52:02 PM
Pressey,AB,Green,KO and Fav should be the starting lineup.
Replace KO with Sully, no?
Title: Re: Nets (4-1) at Celtics (1-6) Preseason Game #8 10/23
Post by: SHAQATTACK on October 23, 2013, 08:53:14 PM
Team is so much better with Pressey in there,   Just think .....can't wait see Rondo
Title: Re: Nets (4-1) at Celtics (1-6) Preseason Game #8 10/23
Post by: VitorSullyandKOFan on October 23, 2013, 08:53:33 PM
Pressey,AB,Green,KO and Fav should be the starting lineup.
Replace KO with Sully, no?

I like KO and Fav together.
Title: Re: Nets (4-1) at Celtics (1-6) Preseason Game #8 10/23
Post by: SHAQATTACK on October 23, 2013, 08:55:01 PM
Pressey,AB,Green,KO and Fav should be the starting lineup.
Replace KO with Sully, no?

They got equal minutes coming  I think,  both have certain strengths

Key is Pressey And Fav in the game   As much as possible
Title: Re: Nets (4-1) at Celtics (1-6) Preseason Game #8 10/23
Post by: Adelaide Celt on October 23, 2013, 08:56:02 PM
My mother is at this game tonight. Really hope they get the win.

Faverani looking like one heck of a find. Credit D. Ainge :)
Title: Re: Nets (4-1) at Celtics (1-6) Preseason Game #8 10/23
Post by: SHAQATTACK on October 23, 2013, 08:56:14 PM
I dread Crawford and bass
Title: Re: Nets (4-1) at Celtics (1-6) Preseason Game #8 10/23
Post by: Boston Garden Leprechaun on October 23, 2013, 08:57:38 PM
LET'S GO CELTICS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Nets (4-1) at Celtics (1-6) Preseason Game #8 10/23
Post by: Chief on October 23, 2013, 08:58:22 PM
I dread Crawford and bass

TP
Title: Re: Nets (4-1) at Celtics (1-6) Preseason Game #8 10/23
Post by: Tr1boy on October 23, 2013, 08:58:46 PM
Edited.  Profanity and masked profanity are against forum rules and may result in discipline. is wrong with Crawford??
Title: Re: Nets (4-1) at Celtics (1-6) Preseason Game #8 10/23
Post by: Tr1boy on October 23, 2013, 09:00:09 PM
I dread Crawford and bass

TP

I don't mind Bass but want Jcraw gone. I rather keep babb in case we need threes pronto
Title: Re: Nets (4-1) at Celtics (1-6) Preseason Game #8 10/23
Post by: Chief on October 23, 2013, 09:00:49 PM
**** is wrong with Crawford??

He thinks he's at the park.
Title: Re: Nets (4-1) at Celtics (1-6) Preseason Game #8 10/23
Post by: Surferdad on October 23, 2013, 09:01:37 PM
Pressey,AB,Green,KO and Fav should be the starting lineup.
Replace KO with Sully, no?

I like KO and Fav together.
I know what you are saying about an inside-out game from the bigs. However, KO is just too raw and I don't think 3 rookies in the starting lineup will happen.
Title: Re: Nets (4-1) at Celtics (1-6) Preseason Game #8 10/23
Post by: Chief on October 23, 2013, 09:02:05 PM
I dread Crawford and bass

TP

I don't mind Bass but want Jcraw gone. I rather keep babb in case we need threes pronto

Bass's defense is so bad. He's usually two steps late on most rotations.
Title: Re: Nets (4-1) at Celtics (1-6) Preseason Game #8 10/23
Post by: SHAQATTACK on October 23, 2013, 09:03:14 PM
I'm eating Halloween "Bass".  Candy.....


Butterfingers.......yummy
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Post by: timobusa on October 23, 2013, 09:07:18 PM
UH OH!!!! GREEN!
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Post by: SHAQATTACK on October 23, 2013, 09:08:30 PM
Dislocated.  :o


Please no :'(
Title: Re: Nets (4-1) at Celtics (1-6) Preseason Game #8 10/23
Post by: Neurotic Guy on October 23, 2013, 09:09:58 PM
Maybe a bad funny bone?
Title: Re: Nets (4-1) at Celtics (1-6) Preseason Game #8 10/23
Post by: timobusa on October 23, 2013, 09:11:37 PM
Maybe a bad funny bone?

Ya i think he got hit going up for that shot. like right on the elbow
Title: Re: Nets (4-1) at Celtics (1-6) Preseason Game #8 10/23
Post by: SHAQATTACK on October 23, 2013, 09:11:43 PM
Bass.  Please finish
Title: Re: Nets (4-1) at Celtics (1-6) Preseason Game #8 10/23
Post by: Neurotic Guy on October 23, 2013, 09:18:33 PM
Can't wait to see Vitor in a real NBA game. 
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Post by: VitorSullyandKOFan on October 23, 2013, 09:20:26 PM
15pts 7reb 6blk in 24 minutes that's very good.
Title: Re: Nets (4-1) at Celtics (1-6) Preseason Game #8 10/23
Post by: Tr1boy on October 23, 2013, 09:20:41 PM
Is Brooks officially not part of the rotation??

Humphries also only played 5 minutes.

These guys don't have the highest bbiq also
Title: Re: Nets (4-1) at Celtics (1-6) Preseason Game #8 10/23
Post by: Surferdad on October 23, 2013, 09:21:30 PM
Can't wait to see Vitor in a real NBA game.
All these guys really, but Vitor has a lot of euro experience so will be good to see how it translates.
Title: Re: Nets (4-1) at Celtics (1-6) Preseason Game #8 10/23
Post by: SHAQATTACK on October 23, 2013, 09:21:49 PM
Brooks to the Lakers for Meeks
Title: Re: Nets (4-1) at Celtics (1-6) Preseason Game #8 10/23
Post by: timobusa on October 23, 2013, 09:21:54 PM
Is Brooks officially not part of the rotation??

Humphries also only played 5 minutes.

These guys don't have the highest bbiq also

I don't mind Brooks, but Humph is better than what I've expected. He should play at least 10 15 minutes per game
Title: Re: Nets (4-1) at Celtics (1-6) Preseason Game #8 10/23
Post by: Boston Garden Leprechaun on October 23, 2013, 09:22:11 PM
WHEN THE HELL IS SULLY COMING BACK?????????
Title: Re: Nets (4-1) at Celtics (1-6) Preseason Game #8 10/23
Post by: Boston Garden Leprechaun on October 23, 2013, 09:23:34 PM
I was on the treadmill at the gym watching the game and I do like to see our guys crashing the boards  after a shot on offense UNLIKE doc cry me a rivers. SO REFRESHING!!!!
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Post by: VitorSullyandKOFan on October 23, 2013, 09:23:59 PM
WHEN THE HELL IS SULLY COMING BACK?????????

He's fine. Missed the game because of sickness.
Title: Re: Nets (4-1) at Celtics (1-6) Preseason Game #8 10/23
Post by: Boston Garden Leprechaun on October 23, 2013, 09:24:04 PM
Brooks to the Lakers for Meeks

cheeks
Title: Re: Nets (4-1) at Celtics (1-6) Preseason Game #8 10/23
Post by: Boston Garden Leprechaun on October 23, 2013, 09:24:52 PM
WHEN THE HELL IS SULLY COMING BACK?????????

He's fine. Missed the game because of sickness.

thanks!  :)
Title: Re: Nets (4-1) at Celtics (1-6) Preseason Game #8 10/23
Post by: letsgoblue86 on October 23, 2013, 09:25:39 PM
Bradley still can't shoot
Title: Re: Nets (4-1) at Celtics (1-6) Preseason Game #8 10/23
Post by: SHAQATTACK on October 23, 2013, 09:26:08 PM
Hump is ok for a kardashian ....LoL.....
Title: Re: Nets (4-1) at Celtics (1-6) Preseason Game #8 10/23
Post by: SHAQATTACK on October 23, 2013, 09:34:05 PM
Woo hoo

KO.  .....wow :o
Title: Re: Nets (4-1) at Celtics (1-6) Preseason Game #8 10/23
Post by: Tr1boy on October 23, 2013, 09:34:25 PM
KO !! love it
Title: Re: Nets (4-1) at Celtics (1-6) Preseason Game #8 10/23
Post by: blink on October 23, 2013, 09:35:32 PM
Yes KO really flashing some talent
Title: Re: Nets (4-1) at Celtics (1-6) Preseason Game #8 10/23
Post by: Tr1boy on October 23, 2013, 09:37:40 PM
where is Surferdad ?? I wonder what he thought of that KO basket
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Post by: slamtheking on October 23, 2013, 09:38:23 PM
finally looked more like a team than in any other game so far.

take away for the night: our starters du jour are better than other team's scrubs.  too bad they're not better than another team's starters.
Title: Re: Nets (4-1) at Celtics (1-6) Preseason Game #8 10/23
Post by: SHAQATTACK on October 23, 2013, 09:38:30 PM
This year.......

Well..........I'll take this win

Each win......no matter how shallow ......is sweet this year
Title: Re: Nets (4-1) at Celtics (1-6) Preseason Game #8 10/23
Post by: VitorSullyandKOFan on October 23, 2013, 09:38:49 PM
KO should shoot more and Faverani is a beast.
Title: Re: Nets (4-1) at Celtics (1-6) Preseason Game #8 10/23
Post by: Surferdad on October 23, 2013, 09:40:04 PM
where is Surferdad ?? I wonder what he thought of that KO basket
Right here dude.  I like KO, very much, but he does not have a complete game.  He is a mediocre rebounder, he is slow on the defensive switches, and just needs some seasoning.
Title: Re: Nets (4-1) at Celtics (1-6) Preseason Game #8 10/23
Post by: SHAQATTACK on October 23, 2013, 09:41:43 PM
Sully and KO ......will be a force by the end of the year.........just need a couple young Stud Stars to go with them and a nice Center to help Fav
Title: Re: Nets (4-1) at Celtics (1-6) Preseason Game #8 10/23
Post by: Tr1boy on October 23, 2013, 09:44:06 PM
- Happy for the win, but it was only against the nets , so can't get too excited.

- Faverani was tonights MVP. A total game, plus 6 blocks. Danny seriously made up with the blunder of picking Melo , getting this kid

- Jeff Green even though again didn't shoot at an efficient rate was alot more agressive. Got to the line. Really liked seeing this.

- Gerald Wallace is a crazy player. His energy never waivers and looks like he could play the whole game without an issue. Terrific shape

- AB had a decent game. Just played to his strengths and made some nice basket

- Birthday boy JCRAW was horrific once again. Looks like Brooks is also not part of the regular rotation. Its the right call. Just a pure selfish player.

Nice win and hope we can build from it
Title: Re: Nets (4-1) at Celtics (1-6) Preseason Game #8 10/23
Post by: Tr1boy on October 23, 2013, 09:48:29 PM
where is Surferdad ?? I wonder what he thought of that KO basket
Right here dude.  I like KO, very much, but he does not have a complete game.  He is a mediocre rebounder, he is slow on the defensive switches, and just needs some seasoning.

Surferdad c'mon. You dwell on the negative too much.  Olynyk already has a got out of jail free card being that he is a rookie. Rookie's are suppose to make alot more mistakes and look dead lost out there.

Olynyk didn't score 20 or had 10 rebounds, but he also played a good game, had like 1 turnover and made some clutch baskets down the line.  If you expect the world from him or expect him to be like KG, you are not going to get that. But he is ahead of the curve already.
Title: Re: Nets (4-1) at Celtics (1-6) Preseason Game #8 10/23
Post by: SHAQATTACK on October 23, 2013, 09:50:03 PM
Pressey led all players. .....+8.   When h is on th court .....he only played 10 minutes.

Pressey  needs to play. 2 x.  That min   Or C's to win games.

aB ...just isn't a point guard.......
Title: Re: Nets (4-1) at Celtics (1-6) Preseason Game #8 10/23
Post by: timobusa on October 23, 2013, 09:51:18 PM
where is Surferdad ?? I wonder what he thought of that KO basket
Right here dude.  I like KO, very much, but he does not have a complete game.  He is a mediocre rebounder, he is slow on the defensive switches, and just needs some seasoning.

Surferdad c'mon. You dwell on the negative too much.  Olynyk already has a got out of jail free card being that he is a rookie. Rookie's are suppose to make alot more mistakes and look dead lost out there.

Olynyk didn't score 20 or had 10 rebounds, but he also played a good game, had like 1 turnover and made some clutch baskets down the line.  If you expect the world from him or expect him to be like KG, you are not going to get that. But he is ahead of the curve already.

He actually has 0 turnovers my friend.
Title: Re: Nets (4-1) at Celtics (1-6) Preseason Game #8 10/23
Post by: timobusa on October 23, 2013, 09:53:27 PM
I know there are tons of Bass haters, but he played well tonight, 16 points 9 rebounds 3 of them were offensive rebounds 6-10 from the field, and 1 block in 17 minutes.

Him and Faverani were the best players tonight. Heck, most of our players not named Jcraw were pretty good tonight. lol
Title: Re: Nets (4-1) at Celtics (1-6) Preseason Game #8 10/23
Post by: VitorSullyandKOFan on October 23, 2013, 09:56:22 PM
Now I want to beat down the Raps for trash talking the C's.
Title: Re: Nets (4-1) at Celtics (1-6) Preseason Game #8 10/23
Post by: SHAQATTACK on October 23, 2013, 10:00:06 PM
Respect to Bass for his efforts to night.

Glade Brooks sat.........bet DA had something to do with that ....Brooks  needed. Some attitude adjustment

Title: Re: Nets (4-1) at Celtics (1-6) Preseason Game #8 10/23
Post by: Tr1boy on October 23, 2013, 10:00:40 PM
I know there are tons of Bass haters, but he played well tonight, 16 points 9 rebounds 3 of them were offensive rebounds 6-10 from the field, and 1 block in 17 minutes.

Him and Faverani were the best players tonight. Heck, most of our players not named Jcraw were pretty good tonight. lol

I have never in my life understood the hate for Bass. He has limitations. Thats why he was drafted in the 2nd round. But he possesses a long wingspan, can guard multiple positions, doesn't take a play off and has decent basketball iq now. He is competitive.

There is no point of trading a guy like Bass. He has a fair contract and a good role model for the younger guys to look up to.
Title: Re: Nets (4-1) at Celtics (1-6) Preseason Game #8 10/23
Post by: timobusa on October 23, 2013, 10:02:32 PM
I know there are tons of Bass haters, but he played well tonight, 16 points 9 rebounds 3 of them were offensive rebounds 6-10 from the field, and 1 block in 17 minutes.

Him and Faverani were the best players tonight. Heck, most of our players not named Jcraw were pretty good tonight. lol

I have never in my life understood the hate for Bass. He has limitations. Thats why he was drafted in the 2nd round. But he possesses a long wingspan, can guard multiple positions, doesn't take a play off and has decent basketball iq now. He is competitive.

There is no point of trading a guy like Bass. He has a fair contract and a good role model for the younger guys to look up to.

Agreed.
But you know some fans, if he's not the next KG or Mchale he's a scrub. LOL!!
Title: Re: Nets (4-1) at Celtics (1-6) Preseason Game #8 10/23
Post by: Surferdad on October 23, 2013, 10:03:21 PM
where is Surferdad ?? I wonder what he thought of that KO basket
Right here dude.  I like KO, very much, but he does not have a complete game.  He is a mediocre rebounder, he is slow on the defensive switches, and just needs some seasoning.

Surferdad c'mon. You dwell on the negative too much.  Olynyk already has a got out of jail free card being that he is a rookie. Rookie's are suppose to make alot more mistakes and look dead lost out there.

Olynyk didn't score 20 or had 10 rebounds, but he also played a good game, had like 1 turnover and made some clutch baskets down the line.  If you expect the world from him or expect him to be like KG, you are not going to get that. But he is ahead of the curve already.
Dont over-interpret my criticism. Of course I give him a rookie pass. I'm just saying he is not a starter right now. Like I said, I like him very much but so far we have only seen him in pre-season against teams that are not putting their best out there.
Title: Re: Nets (4-1) at Celtics (1-6) Preseason Game #8 10/23
Post by: VitorSullyandKOFan on October 23, 2013, 10:04:24 PM
Bass is great for a contender but on a rebuild team his flaws will infuriate the fans.
Title: Re: Nets (4-1) at Celtics (1-6) Preseason Game #8 10/23
Post by: blink on October 23, 2013, 10:05:59 PM
If this was our typical starting and bench rotations until Rondo gets back (with the exception of Sully)  I am all for it.  I like the starting 5 of Avery, Green, Wallace, KO and Vitor.  I just hope Stevens settles on a rotation that allows our young players to develop. 

Not sure if KO is best starting or coming off the bench, but he fit in well tonight.  Either way KO should be getting 25+/- min a game along w/ Sully.

Hopefully by the time Rondo comes back, Pressey has enough experience to be a decent backup point, then we can leave crawford on the bench as a 'break glass in an emergency' type player.  DA can then search for good deals for Hump, Crawford, Brooks, Bass, Lee, and Wallace if their are suitors...

Although, if Bass and Lee can play like they did off the bench tonight, they can be provide some veteran leadership.  I just wish we could count on them for 20 good min each a night.  Not sure though.  Lee hasn't been able to hit the side of a barn with his 3's before tonight.
Title: Re: Nets (4-1) at Celtics (1-6) Preseason Game #8 10/23
Post by: Tr1boy on October 23, 2013, 10:08:59 PM
where is Surferdad ?? I wonder what he thought of that KO basket
Right here dude.  I like KO, very much, but he does not have a complete game.  He is a mediocre rebounder, he is slow on the defensive switches, and just needs some seasoning.

Surferdad c'mon. You dwell on the negative too much.  Olynyk already has a got out of jail free card being that he is a rookie. Rookie's are suppose to make alot more mistakes and look dead lost out there.

Olynyk didn't score 20 or had 10 rebounds, but he also played a good game, had like 1 turnover and made some clutch baskets down the line.  If you expect the world from him or expect him to be like KG, you are not going to get that. But he is ahead of the curve already.
Dont over-interpret my criticism. Of course I give him a rookie pass. I'm just saying he is not a starter right now. Like I said, I like him very much but so far we have only seen him in pre-season against teams that are not putting their best out there.

agreed. But you have to also try to get over the fact , he is and likely never will be a good rebounder for his height. Its the same deal with Nowitzki (or nowitzki later in his career). But that doesn't mean he is not a complete player. Unlike some taller guys, he can move well to cause issues on the defensive end, is a better passer than some guards and has alot more tricks we haven't seen yet.

As he gets seasoned, gets stronger, faster, he will be able to bang on the inside more. But still will likely be only good for 7 rebounds a game. He will make it up in other ways though and you just got to make sure you got a good rebounder by his side. He is more like a PF/SF vs PF/C
Title: Re: Nets (4-1) at Celtics (1-6) Preseason Game #8 10/23
Post by: Surferdad on October 23, 2013, 10:12:00 PM
Bass is great for a contender but on a rebuild team his flaws will infuriate the fans.
That's right. His best fit is as a big coming off the bench. I fear he will get a starting nod on this team.
Title: Re: Nets (4-1) at Celtics (1-6) Preseason Game #8 10/23
Post by: VitorSullyandKOFan on October 23, 2013, 10:13:04 PM
where is Surferdad ?? I wonder what he thought of that KO basket
Right here dude.  I like KO, very much, but he does not have a complete game.  He is a mediocre rebounder, he is slow on the defensive switches, and just needs some seasoning.

Surferdad c'mon. You dwell on the negative too much.  Olynyk already has a got out of jail free card being that he is a rookie. Rookie's are suppose to make alot more mistakes and look dead lost out there.

Olynyk didn't score 20 or had 10 rebounds, but he also played a good game, had like 1 turnover and made some clutch baskets down the line.  If you expect the world from him or expect him to be like KG, you are not going to get that. But he is ahead of the curve already.
Dont over-interpret my criticism. Of course I give him a rookie pass. I'm just saying he is not a starter right now. Like I said, I like him very much but so far we have only seen him in pre-season against teams that are not putting their best out there.

agreed. But you have to also try to get over the fact , he is and likely never will be a good rebounder for his height. Its the same deal with Nowitzki (or nowitzki later in his career). But that doesn't mean he is not a complete player. Unlike some taller guys, he can move well to cause issues on the defensive end, is a better passer than some guards and has alot more tricks we haven't seen yet.

As he gets seasoned, gets stronger, faster, he will be able to bang on the inside more. But still will likely be only good for 7 rebounds a game. He will make it up in other ways though and you just got to make sure you got a good rebounder by his side. He is more like a PF/SF vs PF/C

I agree he will never be a good rebounder but his IQ, passing and mobility will make up for it and he's not bad defensively he just need to learn the rotations. What are your thoughts on Faverani?
Title: Re: Nets (4-1) at Celtics (1-6) Preseason Game #8 10/23
Post by: timobusa on October 23, 2013, 10:14:22 PM
Bass is great for a contender but on a rebuild team his flaws will infuriate the fans.
That's right. His best fit is as a big coming off the bench. I fear he will get a starting nod on this team.

I think Sully is gonna start over Bass. Maybe KO or Humph, Bass is great coming off the bench with instant offense.
Title: Re: Nets (4-1) at Celtics (1-6) Preseason Game #8 10/23
Post by: Surferdad on October 23, 2013, 10:17:15 PM
where is Surferdad ?? I wonder what he thought of that KO basket
Right here dude.  I like KO, very much, but he does not have a complete game.  He is a mediocre rebounder, he is slow on the defensive switches, and just needs some seasoning.

Surferdad c'mon. You dwell on the negative too much.  Olynyk already has a got out of jail free card being that he is a rookie. Rookie's are suppose to make alot more mistakes and look dead lost out there.

Olynyk didn't score 20 or had 10 rebounds, but he also played a good game, had like 1 turnover and made some clutch baskets down the line.  If you expect the world from him or expect him to be like KG, you are not going to get that. But he is ahead of the curve already.
Dont over-interpret my criticism. Of course I give him a rookie pass. I'm just saying he is not a starter right now. Like I said, I like him very much but so far we have only seen him in pre-season against teams that are not putting their best out there.

agreed. But you have to also try to get over the fact , he is and likely never will be a good rebounder for his height. Its the same deal with Nowitzki (or nowitzki later in his career). But that doesn't mean he is not a complete player. Unlike some taller guys, he can move well to cause issues on the defensive end, is a better passer than some guards and has alot more tricks we haven't seen yet.

As he gets seasoned, gets stronger, faster, he will be able to bang on the inside more. But still will likely be only good for 7 rebounds a game. He will make it up in other ways though and you just got to make sure you got a good rebounder by his side. He is more like a PF/SF vs PF/C
That makes sense.  He is really a point-forward, which could work in certain situations. In fact, he will create matchup problems for opposing forwards who won't be able to keep up with his ball handling or passing. As far as rebounding, I suspect he needs to get stronger which is hard to do during the season.  By next year he will be better all around.
Title: Re: Nets (4-1) at Celtics (1-6) Preseason Game #8 10/23
Post by: Tr1boy on October 23, 2013, 10:17:22 PM
where is Surferdad ?? I wonder what he thought of that KO basket
Right here dude.  I like KO, very much, but he does not have a complete game.  He is a mediocre rebounder, he is slow on the defensive switches, and just needs some seasoning.

Surferdad c'mon. You dwell on the negative too much.  Olynyk already has a got out of jail free card being that he is a rookie. Rookie's are suppose to make alot more mistakes and look dead lost out there.

Olynyk didn't score 20 or had 10 rebounds, but he also played a good game, had like 1 turnover and made some clutch baskets down the line.  If you expect the world from him or expect him to be like KG, you are not going to get that. But he is ahead of the curve already.
Dont over-interpret my criticism. Of course I give him a rookie pass. I'm just saying he is not a starter right now. Like I said, I like him very much but so far we have only seen him in pre-season against teams that are not putting their best out there.

agreed. But you have to also try to get over the fact , he is and likely never will be a good rebounder for his height. Its the same deal with Nowitzki (or nowitzki later in his career). But that doesn't mean he is not a complete player. Unlike some taller guys, he can move well to cause issues on the defensive end, is a better passer than some guards and has alot more tricks we haven't seen yet.

As he gets seasoned, gets stronger, faster, he will be able to bang on the inside more. But still will likely be only good for 7 rebounds a game. He will make it up in other ways though and you just got to make sure you got a good rebounder by his side. He is more like a PF/SF vs PF/C

I agree he will never be a good rebounder but his IQ, passing and mobility will make up for it and he's not bad defensively he just need to learn the rotations. What are your thoughts on Faverani?

He is a quick learner unlike Fab Melo. He is already a much better player vs pre season game 1 version.

This might sound crazy, but he kind of reminds of a poor man tim duncan. Just his overall game, potential effect he can have on both ends and ridiculous wingspan. He is smarter than i thought
Title: Re: Nets (4-1) at Celtics (1-6) Preseason Game #8 10/23
Post by: VitorSullyandKOFan on October 23, 2013, 10:19:25 PM
where is Surferdad ?? I wonder what he thought of that KO basket
Right here dude.  I like KO, very much, but he does not have a complete game.  He is a mediocre rebounder, he is slow on the defensive switches, and just needs some seasoning.

Surferdad c'mon. You dwell on the negative too much.  Olynyk already has a got out of jail free card being that he is a rookie. Rookie's are suppose to make alot more mistakes and look dead lost out there.

Olynyk didn't score 20 or had 10 rebounds, but he also played a good game, had like 1 turnover and made some clutch baskets down the line.  If you expect the world from him or expect him to be like KG, you are not going to get that. But he is ahead of the curve already.
Dont over-interpret my criticism. Of course I give him a rookie pass. I'm just saying he is not a starter right now. Like I said, I like him very much but so far we have only seen him in pre-season against teams that are not putting their best out there.

agreed. But you have to also try to get over the fact , he is and likely never will be a good rebounder for his height. Its the same deal with Nowitzki (or nowitzki later in his career). But that doesn't mean he is not a complete player. Unlike some taller guys, he can move well to cause issues on the defensive end, is a better passer than some guards and has alot more tricks we haven't seen yet.

As he gets seasoned, gets stronger, faster, he will be able to bang on the inside more. But still will likely be only good for 7 rebounds a game. He will make it up in other ways though and you just got to make sure you got a good rebounder by his side. He is more like a PF/SF vs PF/C

I agree he will never be a good rebounder but his IQ, passing and mobility will make up for it and he's not bad defensively he just need to learn the rotations. What are your thoughts on Faverani?

He is a quick learner unlike Fab Melo. He is already a much better player vs pre season game 1 version.

This might sound crazy, but he kind of reminds of a poor man tim duncan. Just his overall game, potential effect he can have on both ends and ridiculous wingspan. He is smarter than i thought

I see a little bit of Marc Gasol in him too.
Title: Re: Nets (4-1) at Celtics (1-6) Preseason Game #8 10/23
Post by: SHAQATTACK on October 23, 2013, 10:24:20 PM
One thang I did NOT miss tonight........

The dreaded Bass and Sully in the same lineup ...

They just don't compliment each other well at all.

Everybody in the world knows this surely DA and Brad know this  :-\

I think Bass realizes this,  he plays so much better without Sully.

I love Sully to death......but when h is our center things tend to go to crap really fast.

Sully an Bass should NEVER be in the game together ,   They should be paired with KO or Fav .

They need a center with them to defend the paint.  .....at all times......they are not small ball players..
Title: Re: Nets (4-1) at Celtics (1-6) Preseason Game #8 10/23
Post by: blink on October 23, 2013, 10:31:28 PM
where is Surferdad ?? I wonder what he thought of that KO basket
Right here dude.  I like KO, very much, but he does not have a complete game.  He is a mediocre rebounder, he is slow on the defensive switches, and just needs some seasoning.

Surferdad c'mon. You dwell on the negative too much.  Olynyk already has a got out of jail free card being that he is a rookie. Rookie's are suppose to make alot more mistakes and look dead lost out there.

Olynyk didn't score 20 or had 10 rebounds, but he also played a good game, had like 1 turnover and made some clutch baskets down the line.  If you expect the world from him or expect him to be like KG, you are not going to get that. But he is ahead of the curve already.
Dont over-interpret my criticism. Of course I give him a rookie pass. I'm just saying he is not a starter right now. Like I said, I like him very much but so far we have only seen him in pre-season against teams that are not putting their best out there.

agreed. But you have to also try to get over the fact , he is and likely never will be a good rebounder for his height. Its the same deal with Nowitzki (or nowitzki later in his career). But that doesn't mean he is not a complete player. Unlike some taller guys, he can move well to cause issues on the defensive end, is a better passer than some guards and has alot more tricks we haven't seen yet.

As he gets seasoned, gets stronger, faster, he will be able to bang on the inside more. But still will likely be only good for 7 rebounds a game. He will make it up in other ways though and you just got to make sure you got a good rebounder by his side. He is more like a PF/SF vs PF/C

I agree he will never be a good rebounder but his IQ, passing and mobility will make up for it and he's not bad defensively he just need to learn the rotations. What are your thoughts on Faverani?

He is a quick learner unlike Fab Melo. He is already a much better player vs pre season game 1 version.

This might sound crazy, but he kind of reminds of a poor man tim duncan. Just his overall game, potential effect he can have on both ends and ridiculous wingspan. He is smarter than i thought

I see a little bit of Marc Gasol in him too.

I was going to say that too.  He looked very comfortable handling the ball, and his moves / posture / handle reminds me of M Gasol a bit too. 
Title: Re: Nets (4-1) at Celtics (1-6) Preseason Game #8 10/23
Post by: D.o.s. on October 24, 2013, 12:38:29 AM
Only got to catch the first half. Loved the passing from Crawford (to a cutting AB for a bucket and for what should've been a bucket from Bass) and Pressey. Faverani looked great, too.

Moral victories, and a real victory.

Now can the regular season start please?