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Celtics Basketball => Celtics Talk => Topic started by: billysan on October 12, 2013, 12:20:18 PM
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As we watch this new group trying to establish it's identity, we have a couple of roles that need to be filled. Spark off the bench, defensive stopper, enforcer and crunch time scorer or go-to guy.
Who will be the go-to guy until Rondo comes back?
I think it will be Jared Sullinger. He can take it down low and draw a foul or hit the jumper. Second choice is Gerald Wallace but not if he is shooting long range. If we need a 3pt shot then I guess Jordan Crawford.
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Andrew wiggins
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Andrew wiggins
I have not seen him play at all, but from what I have read it doesn't seem he will be a big time scorer, more of an all around player.
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Andrew wiggins
I have not seen him play at all, but from what I have read it doesn't seem he will be a big time scorer, more of an all around player.
You must not spend a ton of time here. I keep reading that he's pretty much guaranteed to be a LeBron-level player.
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C,mon guys getting Wiggins is unrealistic I think we get a top 10 pick but not Wiggins.
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From what I've seen in the preseason, I would have to say Sullinger by far, with Wallace 2nd, and Green third. Sullinger is the most confident, talented scorer we have right now without Rondo, and he can score inside and hit from long distance.
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I think Brandon Bass is the obvious choice to run a play for. I see him having the most composure in a final shot situation.
If we are unable to run a play for an open shot, the choice becomes much harder. You want to say you'd give it to Green for a drive to the rim, but under pressure I'm not sure that's a much better option than a ridiculous Jordan Crawford step-back.
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When was Rondo ever our crunch time bucket maker ??
Outside of a few unexpected games/playoff games, if Rondo is the guy you want to have as your game closer than your in trouble.
It should be jeff green, but he has gone back to hibernation mode again and no ones sure when he will wake up.
Olynyk has potential. Loved what Pressey did at the end vs the knick, though it was only against rookies. That was a difficult , clutch basket.
I guess its a wait a see situation. Worse case we got a ton of picks coming up to get a guy who can close out games.
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This implies that we will actually have an NBA-caliber "go to guy". Based on what I have seen so far in preseason, I am not so sure.
I get it, in a close game at the end, we will have to call a play for someone. They will probably just have to go with the hot hand in that situation.
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We don't have one. That's why this team finishes under .500.
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Chris Babb
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If we are setting up a legitimate play, then Jeff Green makes the most sense - especially since he has the ability to create if things fall short.
If we are going Pierce iso-style, then the far and away choice is Crawford. He is simply the best player on the team at creating off the dribble - either for himself or to an open man.
I saw the Bass idea and that could work if you could legitimately get him a 15-17 foot jump shot, otherwise it totally falls apart.
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Andrew wiggins
Please, this.
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Andrew wiggins
I have not seen him play at all, but from what I have read it doesn't seem he will be a big time scorer, more of an all around player.
You must not spend a ton of time here. I keep reading that he's pretty much guaranteed to be a LeBron-level player.
Is pretty much the same guarantee that we land him.
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This implies that we will actually have an NBA-caliber "go to guy". Based on what I have seen so far in preseason, I am not so sure.
I get it, in a close game at the end, we will have to call a play for someone. They will probably just have to go with the hot hand in that situation.
Yeah, the guy who's probably out "best" player now (Gerald Wallace) said pretty clearly that we're a team without a go-to guy. I mean, really... Crash? Bass? AB? Green? Not a one of them you can put in an iso and expect them to create a game-winner. Tough season ahead...
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When was Rondo ever our crunch time bucket maker ??
Outside of a few unexpected games/playoff games, if Rondo is the guy you want to have as your game closer than your in trouble.
I agree and would also say that he is 'mostly' not ideal because of erratic free throw shooting. He can certainly create a shot and draw contact though cant he? A closer has to be a high percentage free throw guy with few exceptions.
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There is no go-to guy. The sooner we all get used to that the better.
At times it will be enjoyable -- there will be games where 6 or 7 guys score in double digits.
Other games, the team will head into the fourth quarter with fewer than 50 points and it will be excruciating to watch this team try to put the ball in the basket.
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I guess Green's going to lead the team in shots but I don't think it's going to be by a big margin. One, he doesn't have the ball skills or the history of being a great scorer to where he's going to control the ball a lot and be able to dictate how many chances he gets. Two, there are a lot of guys on this team who like to shoot and aren't shy about it-- Bradley, Bass, Sullinger, Crawford, Wallace, etc. I mean whenever the ball freaking touches Bass' hands, he almost always holds it and seems to at least think of shooting. With Pierce and KG gone and Bass being one of the elder statesman on the team, I think he's going to take even greater offensive license. He's one of the sneakiest ball-stoppers in the league.
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rondo is our only go to guy but since it was until he gets back
i went with jeff green and other being KO
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Bass
when did a preseason *practice* game show a players worth?
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Bass
when did a preseason *practice* game show a players worth?
Usually, I'd agree with this sentiment.
But what's the difference between a preseason game and a regular season game, this season? Are the objectives any different? Is the rotation going to be much tighter or any more consistent?
We might all have an easier time this season if we just look at it like an entire 82 game preseason.
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There is no go to person. That is the one obvious conclusion looking at this team so far. We just need to sit tight until we can land a "go to player". Right now we have a bunch of role players and mid-level or rising talent.
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I don't think we have one here. It may be a long season where we only win 30 games (or less maybe) but I look for improvement and learning of our future core as a measure of this season's success.
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Bass
OP. say go-to ......not. Goat too
Messin. ;)
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Jeff Green...he won us a few games last year with the last shot. I guarantee his number gets called the most for the last shot and leading up to it in the 4th...Don't let this preseason fool you...
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I think Stevens will go to whomever is hot. I say this because the NYC game he went to Babb for the last shot. Babb was the hot hand.
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We don't have one. That's why this team finishes under .500.
bingo! this thread is just a trick question, right? the celtics have no go-to guy right now.
they have plenty of guys who will dribble into double teams or toss up a prayer with 5 seconds left on the shot clock.
after watching the past few games, it is clear the celtics are far better at the fast break than the half court game. in the waining seconds of a close game the celtics will have a LOT of trouble scoring baskets...unless babb can continue shooting 3s at 80% or so. ;)
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Don't laugh.......Crawford.
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Question: Who will be our go-to guy?
Answer: It will be a bum-fight over a steak between Marshon Brooks and Jordan Crawford, and it will be GLORIOUS.
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Don't laugh.......Crawford.
More likely to cry.