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Title: world cup in winter ?!?!?!?
Post by: ederson on July 23, 2013, 07:39:40 AM
FIFA must be kidding us ... They sold (does anyone think otherwise??) the world cup to Qatar and now they realised that mid June it`ll REALLY hot ! So Blatter suggested the WC should be moved to winter!

I really hope UEFA and the major football federations will not agree to this
Title: Re: world cup in winter ?!?!?!?
Post by: Moranis on July 23, 2013, 08:53:12 AM
It is the winter in Brasil next year during the World Cup. 
Title: Re: world cup in winter ?!?!?!?
Post by: CelticConcourse on July 23, 2013, 09:36:59 AM
You may want to do some research on what seasons are.
Title: Re: world cup in winter ?!?!?!?
Post by: Fafnir on July 23, 2013, 09:40:34 AM
It is the winter in Brasil next year during the World Cup.
I think the issue the OP is referring too isn't the season as much as moving the calender date of the World Cup to accommodate the fact that they're playing it in a desert.

Which would screw up all of the soccer leagues all over the world which already build everything around the World Cup and other various international contests.
Title: Re: world cup in winter ?!?!?!?
Post by: Moranis on July 23, 2013, 09:45:13 AM
It is the winter in Brasil next year during the World Cup.
I think the issue the OP is referring too isn't the season as much as moving the calender date of the World Cup to accommodate the fact that they're playing it in a desert.

Which would screw up all of the soccer leagues all over the world which already build everything around the World Cup and other various international contests.
I know.  I was being funny.

All of the stadiums for the World Cup are enclosed and will be air conditioned.  It will be in June/July like always.
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Post by: Fafnir on July 23, 2013, 10:09:20 AM
All of the stadiums for the World Cup are enclosed and will be air conditioned.  It will be in June/July like always.
I hope so.

I wonder whether the AC will hold up to that much constant use.
Title: Re: world cup in winter ?!?!?!?
Post by: Moranis on July 23, 2013, 10:48:14 AM
All of the stadiums for the World Cup are enclosed and will be air conditioned.  It will be in June/July like always.
I hope so.

I wonder whether the AC will hold up to that much constant use.
They have held events before without issue.  Now granted nothing the scale of the World Cup and a number of the stadiums will be new and more or less untested, but Qatar is one of the richest countries in the world.  I think they will be fine.

I still have no idea why Qatar, a country with a population of 250,000 that has never come close to qualifying for the World Cup, was given the host status, but that is a question for a different thread.
Title: Re: world cup in winter ?!?!?!?
Post by: Fafnir on July 23, 2013, 10:51:58 AM

I still have no idea why Qatar,
Really you don't? Bribes, bribes, bribes.

And I'm really skeptical they pull of having so many stadiums work well, especially with their weird modular sort of design.
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Post by: Donoghus on July 23, 2013, 10:52:55 AM
All of the stadiums for the World Cup are enclosed and will be air conditioned.  It will be in June/July like always.
I hope so.

I wonder whether the AC will hold up to that much constant use.
They have held events before without issue.  Now granted nothing the scale of the World Cup and a number of the stadiums will be new and more or less untested, but Qatar is one of the richest countries in the world.  I think they will be fine.

I still have no idea why Qatar, a country with a population of 250,000 that has never come close to qualifying for the World Cup, was given the host status, but that is a question for a different thread.

I think the answer is pretty obvious.   
Title: Re: world cup in winter ?!?!?!?
Post by: Moranis on July 23, 2013, 10:54:43 AM

I still have no idea why Qatar,
Really you don't? Bribes, bribes, bribes.

And I'm really skeptical they pull of having so many stadiums work well, especially with their weird modular sort of design.
Of course I "know", but I still can't believe it happened.  I get Russia.  Big country, good fan base, never hosted before, but Qatar just bothers the crap out of me.  That country should not be hosting the world cup.  I mean more people call Toledo, Ohio home than the entire country of Qatar.  Just odd.
Title: Re: world cup in winter ?!?!?!?
Post by: Celtic on July 23, 2013, 11:47:23 AM

I still have no idea why Qatar,
Really you don't? Bribes, bribes, bribes.

And I'm really skeptical they pull of having so many stadiums work well, especially with their weird modular sort of design.
Of course I "know", but I still can't believe it happened.  I get Russia.  Big country, good fan base, never hosted before, but Qatar just bothers the crap out of me.  That country should not be hosting the world cup.  I mean more people call Toledo, Ohio home than the entire country of Qatar.  Just odd.

Exactly, it's a joke that the world's largest sporting event is going to be in Qatar. Fifa was bribed and gave it to Qatar, rather blatantly I might add. Now Blatter is coming up with ideas to improve the experience, he could have just examined these issues before selection and realized Qatar was/is not a valid host nation. I guess it can be kind of hard to offer any rational analysis when there's a fat stack of cash blocking your view.
Title: Re: world cup in winter ?!?!?!?
Post by: ederson on July 24, 2013, 02:32:46 AM
First of all i should have said january instead of winter to solve the north-south hemi confusion :D

I`ve read Blatter`s comments and his main issue is not the conditions inside the stadiums. We can all make a very safe bet that the A/C will be more than excellent. But what about the life outside the football games? They can`t a/c the whole country !

Which brings us to what Moranis said... They knew about the disadvantages. It`s not only the heat. Islamic laws are not very "compatible" with the western life style. Can you imagine 40.000 english fans not allowed to drink beer in public?
I was in Athens during the CL final Milan -Liverpool and the day of the game the center of the city was burried under tons of beer cans!

I guess the "gift" was too big to reject it.
Title: Re: world cup in winter ?!?!?!?
Post by: LatterDayCelticsfan on September 26, 2013, 06:39:19 AM
And lets not even begin to talk about the laws on gayness.
Title: Re: world cup in winter ?!?!?!?
Post by: ederson on March 19, 2015, 02:04:41 PM
Well it`s official....

Fifa has confirmed that the 2022 World Cup final in Qatar will take place on 18 December.
"excellent" idea ... well done Sepp ...

http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/31975274
Title: Re: world cup in winter ?!?!?!?
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on March 19, 2015, 02:11:31 PM
Well it`s official....

Fifa has confirmed that the 2022 World Cup final in Qatar will take place on 18 December.
"excellent" idea ... well done Sepp ...

http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/31975274

I'm thinking UEFA Champions League. So, do they just abandon that or move it as well?

Someone must have payed A TON of money to keep it in Qatar.
Title: Re: world cup in winter ?!?!?!?
Post by: KGs Knee on March 19, 2015, 04:24:49 PM
Well it`s official....

Fifa has confirmed that the 2022 World Cup final in Qatar will take place on 18 December.
"excellent" idea ... well done Sepp ...

http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/31975274

I'm thinking UEFA Champions League. So, do they just abandon that or move it as well?

Someone must have payed A TON of money to keep it in Qatar.

I think it would be hilarious if the club teams refused to let their players participate in the WC due to CL obligations. FIFA would obviously throw a fit, and probably won't allow it, they do essentially sanction the CL.

But the fact some podunk country like Qatar can throw a bunch of money at FIFA and screw up so many other important competitions is beyond ridiculous. FIFA is no better than the IOC, nothing but a bunch of money-loving, greedy dirtbags.
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Post by: Donoghus on March 19, 2015, 04:33:08 PM
Supposedly this is the reason that Fox was just awarded the 2026 World Cup US TV rights without any open bid process;  that they had raised a stink about the move to the winter because they had bought the rights to the 2022 World Cup under the impression of it being a summer event and no coinciding with NFL or college football in the US. 

That's gonna be one heck of a fall for sports in the US. 
Title: Re: world cup in winter ?!?!?!?
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on March 19, 2015, 04:36:08 PM
Well it`s official....

Fifa has confirmed that the 2022 World Cup final in Qatar will take place on 18 December.
"excellent" idea ... well done Sepp ...

http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/31975274

I'm thinking UEFA Champions League. So, do they just abandon that or move it as well?

Someone must have payed A TON of money to keep it in Qatar.

I think it would be hilarious if the club teams refused to let their players participate in the WC due to CL obligations. FIFA would obviously throw a fit, and probably won't allow it, they do essentially sanction the CL.

But the fact some podunk country like Qatar can throw a bunch of money at FIFA and screw up so many other important competitions is beyond ridiculous. FIFA is no better than the IOC, nothing but a bunch of money-loving, greedy dirtbags.

So they solved the "weather" issue (i mean 75 degrees on a December), what about the slave labor? What about the culture of football in general not matching to Qatars standards (clothing, alcohol, etc.)?

There's a few reason why a Qatar World Cup is a bad idea, yet here we are. I agree, someone has been handsomely paid here for this to be really happening.

I hope so as well, to slap FIFA in the face, that clubs won't allow their players to compete in the WC if they Champions League schedule will be in the same dates.
Title: Re: world cup in winter ?!?!?!?
Post by: D.o.s. on March 19, 2015, 04:44:04 PM
Disgusting stuff.
Title: Re: world cup in winter ?!?!?!?
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on March 19, 2015, 04:54:59 PM
I think the solution here is simple.

Europe, South America and US boycotts the World Cup. If they put out a statement that says their countries will not participate in 2022, I bet you FIFA would be quick on resolving this. If the biggest markets in football (or even two of the three) decides to boycott, that's a huge hit, especially financially.

I don't know if it's going to happen, but that's a surefire solution to this.
Title: Re: world cup in winter ?!?!?!?
Post by: rocknrollforyoursoul on March 19, 2015, 05:29:26 PM
To the OP: Why not? I remember playing soccer in the snow at my high school's winter carnival!  ;D
Title: Re: world cup in winter ?!?!?!?
Post by: ederson on March 20, 2015, 03:51:14 AM
FIFA doesn`t care about CL. In fact FIFA and UEFA don`t get along. Blatter wants a piece of the CL money. That`s why he created the stupid club world cup to replace the intercontinental final.

@Yoki

Whoever had any objections should have made them known earlier. This issue has been around for quite some time and nobody really said anything so imho they all have agreed to this ....