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Title: Bobcats granted permission to change their name to the Hornets
Post by: syfy9 on July 20, 2013, 12:08:04 AM
https://twitter.com/rick_bonnell/status/336584508017094656 (https://twitter.com/rick_bonnell/status/336584508017094656)

http://blogs.charlotte.com/inside_the_nba/2013/07/its-official-bobcats-will-become-the-hornets.html (http://blogs.charlotte.com/inside_the_nba/2013/07/its-official-bobcats-will-become-the-hornets.html)

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  By a unanimous vote of the league’s owners at a Las Vegas resort, the Bobcats were granted permission Thursday to change their nickname to the Hornets. That change will take effect after the 2013-14 season, allowing enough lead time to switch uniforms, logos and signage in and around Time
Warner Cable Arena.
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Once the NBA approved the Pelicans name, Jordan formally requested the Hornets name in May, in time to complete the transition by the start of the 2014-15 season.
Title: Re: Bobcats granted permission to change their name to the Hornets
Post by: hpantazo on July 20, 2013, 12:23:12 AM
It's nice to have them back to their appropriate name, even if it's not really the same franchise. Bobcats was an awful team name, although Pelicans has it beat.
Title: Re: Bobcats granted permission to change their name to the Hornets
Post by: GreenEnvy on July 20, 2013, 01:02:23 AM
Now Utah should change their name so New Orleans can have it back.
Title: Re: Bobcats granted permission to change their name to the Hornets
Post by: hpantazo on July 20, 2013, 01:08:39 AM
Now Utah should change their name so New Orleans can have it back.

Yep, and the Twolves can change back to the Lakers, that would be great!
Title: Re: Bobcats granted permission to change their name to the Hornets
Post by: LooseCannon on July 20, 2013, 01:14:43 AM
I don't see what's so great about Hornets as a team name.
Title: Re: Bobcats granted permission to change their name to the Hornets
Post by: syfy9 on July 20, 2013, 01:19:54 AM
I don't see what's so great about Hornets as a team name.

I'm not the biggest fan of the name either, but I'd think for mainly 2 reasons:

1. Charlotte has only ever experienced a popular, winning culture as the Hornets. The Larry Johnson era was pretty exciting for them. I still see a bunch of Charlotte Hornets snap-backs being popular even today.

2. Nobody in the entire universe has ever uttered the words "I like the Bobcats team name".  ;D
Title: Re: Bobcats granted permission to change their name to the Hornets
Post by: Mr Green on July 20, 2013, 02:51:05 AM
I don't see what's so great about Hornets as a team name.

I read somewhere that it has something to do with a regiment in North Carolina during the Civil War. Bobcats came about because the then owner's first name was Bob.

It's nice to have them back to their appropriate name, even if it's not really the same franchise. Bobcats was an awful team name, although Pelicans has it beat.

Pelicans is a great name for a team out of Louisiana.
Title: Re: Bobcats granted permission to change their name to the Hornets
Post by: SparzWizard on July 20, 2013, 03:16:21 AM
At least the Bobcats made the playoffs once! Too bad their lives ended quick by the hands of the Stan Van Gundy-led Magic  :(
Title: Re: Bobcats granted permission to change their name to the Hornets
Post by: Onslaught on July 20, 2013, 11:17:01 AM
I don't see what's so great about Hornets as a team name.
1. We have lots of Hornets here.

2. It's the name the city voted for back when we first got the team. So the people of Charlotte picked it. We had nothing to do with the Bobcats name and most of us don't like
it or the colors. Or MJ as an owner either.
Title: Re: Bobcats granted permission to change their name to the Hornets
Post by: hwangjini_1 on July 20, 2013, 12:34:31 PM
It's nice to have them back to their appropriate name, even if it's not really the same franchise. Bobcats was an awful team name, although Pelicans has it beat.

i agree. to be honest i am at a loss as to how anyone could believe pelicans is a great name for a pro sports team. not only is it a dorky looking animal, it conjures up images of being awkward.

but to each their own.
Title: Re: Bobcats granted permission to change their name to the Hornets
Post by: SHAQATTACK on July 20, 2013, 12:54:06 PM
hurray !

I was a Hornets fan in the early years  ,  always C's first ,  but they were closer to me .

I hate when teams STEAL a cities name for a team.

New Orleans is Music... Should be the jAZZ ......great name for that city..........Jazz is a stupid name for a city in Utah
Utah is nothing ...name them the saltlickers....

Glade Hornets are returning..maybe decent basketball will follow .
Title: Re: Bobcats granted permission to change their name to the Hornets
Post by: BudweiserCeltic on July 20, 2013, 12:57:59 PM
I really detest franchise names moving from one city to another. If a team is relocated, they should acquire a new name and leave the name available to its old city in the case a team returns to it.
Title: Re: Bobcats granted permission to change their name to the Hornets
Post by: Mr Green on July 21, 2013, 06:47:03 AM
It's nice to have them back to their appropriate name, even if it's not really the same franchise. Bobcats was an awful team name, although Pelicans has it beat.

i agree. to be honest i am at a loss as to how anyone could believe pelicans is a great name for a pro sports team. not only is it a dorky looking animal, it conjures up images of being awkward.

but to each their own.

New Orleans is in Louisiana, which is the Pelican State.

Pelicans is a non-offensive, easily marketable, family friendly name that's unique to its locality.

What you would propose as a better alternative?
Title: Re: Bobcats granted permission to change their name to the Hornets
Post by: Fafnir on July 21, 2013, 07:38:11 AM
Yeah the fact that the franchise was named after the owner, who wasn't a good owner in my view, is enough of a reason to change it.
Title: Re: Bobcats granted permission to change their name to the Hornets
Post by: Mr Green on July 21, 2013, 08:33:46 AM
Now Utah should change their name so New Orleans can have it back.

If that does happen one day, I'd like to see the name New Orleans Jazz Hands.
Title: Re: Bobcats granted permission to change their name to the Hornets
Post by: jambr380 on July 21, 2013, 08:50:58 AM
I agree that as the Hornets, Charlotte was more exciting (not sure their current roster can bring back that excitement), but I hate how in a few years, it's just going to be assumed that this is the same old Charlotte Hornets that had Larry Johnson, Zo, Muggsy, etc...analysts will compare current statistics to the 90s era Hornets when really those comparisons belong to the Pelicans.

It's good that they have their team name back, I just wish that everybody wouldn't pretend that it's the same Hornets.
Title: Re: Bobcats granted permission to change their name to the Hornets
Post by: the_Bird on July 21, 2013, 08:54:26 AM
Now Utah should change their name so New Orleans can have it back.

The LAKERS should now give up their name, so it can go back to Minnesota where it actually makes sense!
Title: Re: Bobcats granted permission to change their name to the Hornets
Post by: Onslaught on July 21, 2013, 11:06:18 AM
I agree that as the Hornets, Charlotte was more exciting (not sure their current roster can bring back that excitement), but I hate how in a few years, it's just going to be assumed that this is the same old Charlotte Hornets that had Larry Johnson, Zo, Muggsy, etc...analysts will compare current statistics to the 90s era Hornets when really those comparisons belong to the Pelicans.

It's good that they have their team name back, I just wish that everybody wouldn't pretend that it's the same Hornets.

I don't know. Both teams had owners who wouldn't spend money.
Title: Re: Bobcats granted permission to change their name to the Hornets
Post by: Kiorrik on July 21, 2013, 11:07:39 AM
It's nice to have them back to their appropriate name, even if it's not really the same franchise. Bobcats was an awful team name, although Pelicans has it beat.

i agree. to be honest i am at a loss as to how anyone could believe pelicans is a great name for a pro sports team. not only is it a dorky looking animal, it conjures up images of being awkward.

but to each their own.

New Orleans is in Louisiana, which is the Pelican State.

Pelicans is a non-offensive, easily marketable, family friendly name that's unique to its locality.

What you would propose as a better alternative?
Hornets.

ZINGGG
Title: Re: Bobcats granted permission to change their name to the Hornets
Post by: PhoSita on July 21, 2013, 12:33:05 PM
I agree that as the Hornets, Charlotte was more exciting (not sure their current roster can bring back that excitement), but I hate how in a few years, it's just going to be assumed that this is the same old Charlotte Hornets that had Larry Johnson, Zo, Muggsy, etc...analysts will compare current statistics to the 90s era Hornets when really those comparisons belong to the Pelicans.

It's good that they have their team name back, I just wish that everybody wouldn't pretend that it's the same Hornets.

Meh, almost nobody associated with the Pelicans now had anything to do with those good Hornets teams.

Whereas, on the other hand, the people of Carolina were fans of that team and invested their emotion into it.

So in my view the Charlotte Hornets fans have more ownership of those old Hornets teams than anybody else.


For the same reason I don't care that whenever there's a new Sonics team, people will associate that franchise's history with the Sonics, even though that team is technically the Thunder now.
Title: Re: Bobcats granted permission to change their name to the Hornets
Post by: Onslaught on July 21, 2013, 01:50:41 PM
We also have lots of old, original Hornets players that still live in Charlotte. Muggsy Bogues and Dell Curry still live here along with Robert Parish and probably more that I don't know of. And Curry works for the now Charlotte Hornets as well. Other people like Rex Chapman, Mike Gminski, Kelly Tripucka have been seen around and just came to the Buzz party in downtown Charlotte what the name change became official.

Most of you've probably not had a team you really liked/loved taken away from you. I think bringing back our name, colors and Hugo will only help things.

We even have a history with the mascot name. Hugo was the same name of the hurricane that blasted Charlotte years ago doing all kinds of damage.
Title: Re: Bobcats granted permission to change their name to the Hornets
Post by: KGs Knee on July 21, 2013, 03:47:20 PM
This is the first, and only thing MJ has done right, as a GM/owner.

Baby steps.
Title: Re: Bobcats granted permission to change their name to the Hornets
Post by: jambr380 on July 21, 2013, 05:34:40 PM
I agree that as the Hornets, Charlotte was more exciting (not sure their current roster can bring back that excitement), but I hate how in a few years, it's just going to be assumed that this is the same old Charlotte Hornets that had Larry Johnson, Zo, Muggsy, etc...analysts will compare current statistics to the 90s era Hornets when really those comparisons belong to the Pelicans.

It's good that they have their team name back, I just wish that everybody wouldn't pretend that it's the same Hornets.

Meh, almost nobody associated with the Pelicans now had anything to do with those good Hornets teams.

Whereas, on the other hand, the people of Carolina were fans of that team and invested their emotion into it.

So in my view the Charlotte Hornets fans have more ownership of those old Hornets teams than anybody else.


For the same reason I don't care that whenever there's a new Sonics team, people will associate that franchise's history with the Sonics, even though that team is technically the Thunder now.

But where do Bobcats historical statistics figure in? Does Charlotte get those AND all those of the Hornets? Is this technically like the first season of a New Orleans team or do they get everything since the Bobcats began?

Also, even though all players are gone, things like: trades, draft position, fa signings all had a major hand in what both teams are today.

The Ravens won the Super Bowl not too long after they moved from Cleveland. Was it fair that Browns fans had to celebrate their new crappy franchise while Baltimore fans got to reap the benefits of years of putting the perfect team together? Although now, they use those same historical figures of new Browns players and compare them to those of old (An example I saw was, 'Will Weeden ever be like Kosar / Testaverde?').

I get why cities change back to the names they had when they enjoyed success...it's just a bit confusing.
Title: Re: Bobcats granted permission to change their name to the Hornets
Post by: SHAQATTACK on July 21, 2013, 05:56:46 PM
This is the first, and only thing MJ has done right, as a GM/owner.

Baby steps.


YUP.....  my home state .....may have to watch with more interest now the Celtics are rebuilding

MJ sucks as an owner