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Around the League => Transaction Ideas and Rumors => Topic started by: krook on May 08, 2013, 10:07:18 AM
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since we got MLE left this is the center we can only acquire for cheaper price,
what do we expect from this guy?
if denver offers more than 3 maybe exact 4million (pass?)
overpaying too much?
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since we got MLE left this is the center we can only acquire for cheaper price,
what do we expect from this guy?
if denver offers more than 3 maybe exact 4million (pass?)
overpaying too much?
Since you have started three other threads of this in the past that didn't exactly stick, maybe you should get a hint and give it a rest?
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since we got MLE left this is the center we can only acquire for cheaper price,
what do we expect from this guy?
if denver offers more than 3 maybe exact 4million (pass?)
overpaying too much?
Since you have started three other threads of this in the past that didn't exactly stick, maybe you should get a hint and give it a rest?
feel free to comment ^_^
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I would expect Mozgov to be a backup center here behind Garnett.
I think there are two different roles he could have within that backup center designation. A medium sized bench role and a miniature sized bench role.
(1) If Boston landed a starting caliber big man (Josh Smith please!) then Mozgov's minutes would be severely limited behind that new big man, Garnett and Sullinger. So Mozgov would probably only play about 5-10 minutes a game and only get 2-3pts and 2rpg.
(2) If Boston fails to get such a big man, then Sully likely starts alongside KG with Bass taking over the backup PF duties. Sully would double up and play some minutes at center alongside Bass but would still leave an increased amount of minutes for Mozgov. Probably 12-15mpg when roster is fully healthy that would go up to around 20mpg over the course of the season due to injuries. I think 4-5pts and 4-5rpg would be expected in that role.
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Mozgov wouldn't be a bad addition to the Celtics. The only problem I can see is how would he develop under Doc? I guess it'll be safe to say he'll easily average 3PPG, and 2.5RPG under 5-12 minutes. Then switch him out for Shavlik, so KG only has to play 20 minutes.
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Mozgov wouldn't be a bad addition to the Celtics. The only problem I can see is how would he develop under Doc?
How did he develop under everyone else who coached him (that's right, it took him about a season to find himself on the end of the bench and/or unceremoniously dumped).
The guy will be 27 in July. He is what it is. And what he is is not all that great. As a matter of fact it's quite mediocre.
Can't believe I have to discuss that yet again.
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I think Mozgov makes perfect sense for the Celtics regardless of whether they blow it up or come back for another run with the whole gang.
If KG and PP are coming back he is a solid rotation big who can do a bit of everything and most importantly has size. He doesn't provide the rebounding that you might hope for, but his defense and offense are can make up for it.
If KG and PP aren't coming back Mozgov can either be our cost effective and respectable (but still well below average) starting center while we tank or he can be the back up to whomever we bring in to be our starting center.
The real question is what would we have to give up for him. The nuggets are reportedly going to extend a qualifying offer so it'd have to be a sign and trade most likely. I'd do something like Bass and our 2013 first for Mozgov and Anthony Randolph (I'm very high on Randolph).
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Mozgov will be a restricted free agent. Denver would almost certainly match an offer sheet at the MLE level. I think they would match even if he gets $6-7m per year. I also think that Mozgov would prefer to go to a team where he thinks he can start, even if it is a bad team. I do not think he would want to be a Celtic if his likely role is backing up KG.
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since we got MLE left this is the center we can only acquire for cheaper price,
what do we expect from this guy?
if denver offers more than 3 maybe exact 4million (pass?)
overpaying too much?
Since you have started three other threads of this in the past that didn't exactly stick, maybe you should get a hint and give it a rest?
NEVER!!
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Mozgov wouldn't be a bad addition to the Celtics. The only problem I can see is how would he develop under Doc?
How did he develop under everyone else who coached him (that's right, it took him about a season to find himself on the end of the bench and/or unceremoniously dumped).
The guy will be 27 in July. He is what it is. And what he is is not all that great. As a matter of fact it's quite mediocre.
Can't believe I have to discuss that yet again.
Woe is you. If you don't want to discuss it again then ignore the post.
Honestly, never seen so much negativity from a forum poster, on any forum.
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Mozgov wouldn't be a bad addition to the Celtics. The only problem I can see is how would he develop under Doc?
How did he develop under everyone else who coached him (that's right, it took him about a season to find himself on the end of the bench and/or unceremoniously dumped).
The guy will be 27 in July. He is what it is. And what he is is not all that great. As a matter of fact it's quite mediocre.
Can't believe I have to discuss that yet again.
Woe is you. If you don't want to discuss it again then ignore the post.
Honestly, never seen so much negativity from a forum poster, on any forum.
Much as I'd like to ignore it, it still keep popping up in my Latest Forum Topics.
We only get 10, you know - it's precious real estate there.
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0/0. He ain't comin' to Bost'n
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I think Mozgov makes perfect sense for the Celtics regardless of whether they blow it up or come back for another run with the whole gang.
If KG and PP are coming back he is a solid rotation big who can do a bit of everything and most importantly has size. He doesn't provide the rebounding that you might hope for, but his defense and offense are can make up for it.
If KG and PP aren't coming back Mozgov can either be our cost effective and respectable (but still well below average) starting center while we tank or he can be the back up to whomever we bring in to be our starting center.
The real question is what would we have to give up for him. The nuggets are reportedly going to extend a qualifying offer so it'd have to be a sign and trade most likely. I'd do something like Bass and our 2013 first for Mozgov and Anthony Randolph (I'm very high on Randolph).
randolph given those minutes gives them a descent rebounds and points, they got player that have a lot of potential and should be given minutes, like fournier randolph etc;
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I'm all for paying Mosgov the MLE.
I've seen enough in the Olympics and on some stints that he can contribute to us. He's tough and gritty. He's decent offensively with a solid jump shot from about 13-15 feet.
Make him KG's back up Center? Heck, start him WITH KG.
See him make some work in Miami.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMNF-FqCh2A (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMNF-FqCh2A)
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I'm all for paying Mosgov the MLE.
I've seen enough in the Olympics and on some stints that he can contribute to us. He's tough and gritty. He's decent offensively with a solid jump shot from about 13-15 feet.
Make him KG's back up Center? Heck, start him WITH KG.
See him make some work in Miami.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMNF-FqCh2A (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMNF-FqCh2A)
agree...since we don't have any MLE left but him and our mle match the salary, yes i want him and melo and shavlik as center, if we can add eddy curry or ben wallace or cole aldrich or someone acquirable maybe ben wallace? lets go for another run
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I'm all for paying Mosgov the MLE.
I've seen enough in the Olympics and on some stints that he can contribute to us. He's tough and gritty. He's decent offensively with a solid jump shot from about 13-15 feet.
Make him KG's back up Center? Heck, start him WITH KG.
See him make some work in Miami.
he will be your starter?
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I love how I can select at least 80% of all the options in krook's polls.
You're awesome krook.
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I love how I can select at least 80% of all the options in krook's polls.
You're awesome krook.
after talking to everyone and analyzing our salary cap situation
i'm certain that pierce and kg will comeback since free agents right now sucks...
and since we cannot afford j-smoove and big al and that's the truth, with our remaining MLE of 3 i think
the only centers available are impossible to get
bosh 20 million
biedrins 12million
big al 15million
josh max contract
mozgov 3million
cole aldrich
kaman huge contract also
the only person i can think of is mozgov
and since by trading rondo and not having an exchange legit pure ball-handler PG, i keep him, than lose for nothing, and since trading pp and kg gives us crap players, i rather keep both of them... and even they retire gives us only half of there salaries, still in hard cap because of rondo salary green bass terry lee,
and if trade of bass comes, do it...since i think wilcox wont be resign (maybe), white crawford traded for sure maybe even melo...if adding picks won't give us gortat varejao big al etc; i rather not make a trade and make another run, and by trading green, lee and terry, and having no replacements, injured barbosa, tony allen korver barnes all in max contract, i'll stick with the same line-ups besides chemistry is here already
resign pierce kg comes back, doc rivers coach again
we all need to rely on draft
alex len
kenny kadji
kelly olynx
+ 1 pg or sf that is what we need right now
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and the truth hurts again
bass 3 years
terry 3 years
green 3 years
i'm a GM of a team i won't do that trade, unless maybe u add picks and maybe bradley and sully
terry + Bass both 3 years contract is hard to trade
that is the problem
ainge talk to oden...he is around 3million i think or 4 million
if pierce was traded kg was not here, welcome to rebuilding, like houston type, trying to acquire star players... as reggie miller says let them play, if they decide to retire now...that's the time to rebuild but after loosing 1st round exit without sully and rondo out...
i don't think kg will walk out like that
pierce stated he wants to play, celtics or somewhere
not sure on kg, unless pierce is back, i don't rely on green saving us on offense i still need those 9 rebounds 21 points of pierce...
if its mozgov and oden then so be it
mozgov is much better upgrade on fab melo
given 20minutes per game in a different system defense...
doc style is shoot the ball if you missed, go back to opponents basket and defense, that is why without kg our offensive rebounds sucks...smith sucks on half-court, mozgov is back to basket type of player...i think he can fit in our system...
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and the truth hurts again
bass 3 years
terry 3 years
green 3 years
i'm a GM of a team i won't do that trade, unless maybe u add picks and maybe bradley and sully
terry + Bass both 3 years contract is hard to trade
that is the problem
ainge talk to oden...he is around 3million i think or 4 million
if pierce was traded kg was not here, welcome to rebuilding, like houston type, trying to acquire star players... as reggie miller says let them play, if they decide to retire now...that's the time to rebuild but after loosing 1st round exit without sully and rondo out...
i don't think kg will walk out like that
pierce stated he wants to play, celtics or somewhere
not sure on kg, unless pierce is back, i don't rely on green saving us on offense i still need those 9 rebounds 21 points of pierce...
if its mozgov and oden then so be it
mozgov is much better upgrade on fab melo
given 20minutes per game in a different system defense...
doc style is shoot the ball if you missed, go back to opponents basket and defense, that is why without kg our offensive rebounds sucks...smith sucks on half-court, mozgov is back to basket type of player...i think he can fit in our system...
Yeah, some of Green's time last year was at the 4, when he pulled down more boards. But still, the difference in TRBs/36 between Pierce and Green was only 6.8 to 5.4, and Green should be healthier and better next year, while Pierce is in decline.
Pierce scored 20.0 pts/36 to Green's 16.6, but Green shot higher %'s for FGs, 3PTs, and FTs--and Pierce clearly was more the first option.
I'll be very surprised if Green isn't the starting 3 on opening day next year.
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i used him as starter or back-up in my 2k13..we all know he is less rebounding, but what i like about him is he can low post and jump shots, he scored 18points a game, with rondo dishing the ball
thank god its 2k13
but hell yeah he can score than melo and wilcox
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I automatically knew the OP of this thread..LOl. Timofey aught to give you some sort of compensation for the way you've rallied for him the ENTIRE season..lol. ;D