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Title: What happens if we do not pick up Pierce's option?
Post by: ctrey on March 29, 2013, 04:38:12 PM
I would like some clarification on this please.

What would count against the cap? Would it get us under it enough to go after some decent free agents?

Could someone give me an overview on this please? I have been hard pressed to find details regarding this.
Title: Re: What happens if we do not pick up Pierce's option?
Post by: CelticConcourse on March 29, 2013, 04:43:16 PM
I believe only the guaranteed portion (somewhere between 4 and 5 million) would count towards the cap, and Pierce would no longer be able to resign with us next season.
Title: Re: What happens if we do not pick up Pierce's option?
Post by: Lucky17 on March 29, 2013, 04:43:39 PM
http://data.shamsports.com/content/pages/data/salaries/celtics.jsp

Pierce's final year is guaranteed (by now) for only $5 million, so that's what would count against the Celtics' cap next season if they decided to release him.

Not sure what happens if Pierce were to retire: whether the full $5 million would hit all at once, or if it could be spread out, or if there'd be no financial hit for the Celtics at all. I doubt there'd be no cost to the C's, but am not 100% positive.
Title: Re: What happens if we do not pick up Pierce's option?
Post by: KGs Knee on March 29, 2013, 04:51:10 PM
There's a number of different thing sthat could happen with Pierce this off-season.

-We keep him at his full $15m (approx)
-We release him, and owe him $5m
-We trade him
-We amnesty him (owe him the full $15m, but it doesn't against the cap)
-Pierce retires (which could entail a number of different scenarios of it's own)

It's really just too hard to tell which direction Ainge is going to go in, with there being so many options.
Title: Re: What happens if we do not pick up Pierce's option?
Post by: ctrey on March 29, 2013, 04:59:04 PM
Thanks everybody. That helps clear things up. So I guess if we did not pick up the option we would be at around 60 million in contracts next year which is still over the cap of 58 million.
Title: Re: What happens if we do not pick up Pierce's option?
Post by: ScoobyDoo on March 29, 2013, 07:23:03 PM
We figure out a way to sign Josh Smith , keep Pierce and KG, raise #19 - Pierce and KG retire and we go from there...

KG / Free agent Center / Wilcox / Melo
Josh Smith / Sullinger / Bass
Pierce / Jeff Green / Free agent
Bradley / Lee / Crawford
Rondo / TWill/ Barbosa   

:)
Title: Re: What happens if we do not pick up Pierce's option?
Post by: krook on March 29, 2013, 10:45:51 PM
We figure out a way to sign Josh Smith , keep Pierce and KG, raise #19 - Pierce and KG retire and we go from there...

KG / Free agent Center / Wilcox / Melo
Josh Smith / Sullinger / Bass
Pierce / Jeff Green / Free agent
Bradley / Lee / Crawford
Rondo / TWill/ Barbosa   

:)

that will never ever happen
Title: Re: What happens if we do not pick up Pierce's option?
Post by: celticmania on March 29, 2013, 11:57:05 PM
What happens when a player retires with more years on left  their contract?
Title: Re: What happens if we do not pick up Pierce's option?
Post by: celticsleyte on March 30, 2013, 04:14:28 AM
There's a number of different thing sthat could happen with Pierce this off-season.

-We keep him at his full $15m (approx)
-We release him, and owe him $5m
-We trade him
-We amnesty him (owe him the full $15m, but it doesn't against the cap)
-Pierce retires (which could entail a number of different scenarios of it's own)

It's really just too hard to tell which direction Ainge is going to go in, with there being so many options.

If we did amnesty Pierce he would likely draw a large bid and we would have to pay the difference but much less than 15 million. I think it is most likely we either trade him or keep him.  I do not anticipate amnesty or buyout. Paul is definately worth the ten million dollars difference above his buyout.
Title: Re: What happens if we do not pick up Pierce's option?
Post by: coco on March 30, 2013, 10:20:09 AM
At lot of PP future will depend on how far we go in the playoffs and/or how ugly we lose.
Title: Re: What happens if we do not pick up Pierce's option?
Post by: clover on March 30, 2013, 12:02:11 PM
We figure out a way to sign Josh Smith , keep Pierce and KG, raise #19 - Pierce and KG retire and we go from there...

KG / Free agent Center / Wilcox / Melo
Josh Smith / Sullinger / Bass
Pierce / Jeff Green / Free agent
Bradley / Lee / Crawford
Rondo / TWill/ Barbosa   

:)

that will never ever happen

What, you don't like a 16-man team?  ;)
Title: Re: What happens if we do not pick up Pierce's option?
Post by: makaveli on March 30, 2013, 12:28:07 PM
Keep Pierce, pretty please
Title: Re: What happens if we do not pick up Pierce's option?
Post by: CelticConcourse on March 30, 2013, 02:11:30 PM
At lot of PP future will depend on how far we go in the playoffs and/or how ugly we lose.

Agree