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Title: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: FLCeltsFan on March 25, 2013, 08:52:57 PM
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New York Knicks (42-26)  at  Boston Celtics (36-33)
Tuesday, March 26, 2013
7:00 PM ET
Regular Season Game #70 – Home Game #35
TV:   TNT, TSN2
Radio: WEEI, ESPN NY, ESPNR
TD Garden

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Probable Starters
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PG: #0 Avery Bradley .................................................... SG: #11 Courtney Lee
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C: #30 Brandon Bass 
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SF: #34 Paul Pierce .............................................. PF #8 Jeff Green
Celtics Reserves
Jason Terry
Chris Wilcox
Jordan Crawford
DJ White
Shavlik Randolph
Terrence Williams

Injuries
Courtney Lee (ankle) day to day
Kevin Garnett (foot/ankle)  out
Rajon Rondo (knee) out
Jared Sullinger (back) out

D-League
Fab Melo

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Probable Starters
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PG:  Pablo Prigioni   ............................................  SG: Raymond Felton
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C: Kenyon Martin
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SF: Carmelo Anthony ............................................. PF:Iman Shumpert

Knicks Reserves
James White
JR Smith
Chris Copeland
Steve Novak
Marcus Camby
Jason Kidd

Injuries
Tyson Chandler (knee/neck)  questionable
Amar'e Stoudemire  (knee)  out
Kurt Thomas (foot) out
Rasheed Wallace (foot) out

Game Notes
The Celtics and Knicks class for the 3rd time this season at a time when both clubs are battling injuries and also battling for playoff position.   These two teams would also meet in the first round if the standings stay the way they are. 

The Knicks are in the 2nd spot, tied record-wise with the Pacers, who are in 3rd.  Brooklyn is 2 games behind both teams in 4th.  The Celtics are sitting in the 7th spot, 2 games in front of Milwaukee for the dreaded 8th spot and 2 games behind Chicago in 6th.  There certainly could be a shake up in those standings as we go down the stretch toward the playoffs. 

The Celtics won the first meeting in New York 102-96 as KG got into Carmelo Anthony's head as they clashed during the game and Melo taking it to  the locker room and even outside the buses.  New York returned the favor in Boston, beating the Celtics 89-86 in spite of a triple double from Rajon Rondo. 

The Celtics have lost 4 in a row while the Knicks have won their last 4 games.   The Knicks are 5-5 in their last 10 games while the Celtics are 4-6.  The Knicks are a decent road team with an 18-16 record away from MSG.  The Celtics have played well at home with a 24-10 record.  The Celtics need to win this game in spite of the injuries.

Key Matchups
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Paul Pierce vs  Carmelo Anthony
This is always a good matchup.  Both are very strong and they play each other tough.  They also seem to bring out the best in each other.  Paul Pierce once said that Melo was his toughest matchup so others may need to step up if the Celtics are to win this. 

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Jeff Green vs Iman Shumpert
I had to double check several times to be sure that they had Shumpert starting at the 4.  But he started at PF in the last game and, according to the game notes, is supposed to start there again.  That gives Jeff Green a 4 inch advantage and hopefully he can take advantage of it. 

Honorable Mention

Brandon Bass vs Kenyon Martin
Bass should be quicker than Martin and hopefully will have the advantage in this matchup.  Bass will need to play physically though to match up with KMart who is a tough and physical player.  Chandler is listed as questionable and hopefully he will sit this one out because he would be tough for the Celtics to match up with. 

Keys to the Game

Defense
-  The Celtics have to make defense their priority in this game especially because the Knicks can be a very dangerous offensive team.   Whatever needs to be fixed for the Celtics to get back on track must begin on the defensive end.   The Celtics must especially guard the perimeter as the Knicks are shooting 37% from beyond the arc and they aren't shy about shooting them. 

Rebound
- The Celtics are no longer last in the league in rebounding but close to it, at 29th with 39.7 per game.  The Knicks are 23rd with 40.9 rebounds per game.  The Celtics have got to crash the boards as a team and win the battle on the glass if they want to win this game.   When they put out the effort on the boards, they usually play better all around. 

Be Aggressive - The Celtics must be the more aggressive team, especially against the Knicks who are very aggressive themselves.  They have to be aggressive in going to the hoop and not settle for jumpers, especially if the jumpers aren't falling.  They must be aggressive on the boards and in going after loose balls and winning the 50/50 plays.  The more aggressive team gets the calls from the officials and that will be important in this game.   We know that the Knicks will be aggressive and so the Celtics have to match that intensity.   

Reserves -   Injuries have hit both of these teams.  The Celtics lost Rondo, Sully, then Barbosa and now Courtney Lee and KG.  Doc said that Lee probably will play but KG is definitely out.  Jason Terry is the only player on the Celtics bench this game that was on the bench the last time these two teams played in January.   The Celtics must find chemistry  among the players on the court, many of them new to the team.    The play of the reserves against the Grizzlies gives hope for this game.  Hopefully they can play well again.   

X-Factors
Injuries and Officiating
Both teams have been hit with injuries.   Both players have to scramble to come up with a different game plan and to fill in for missing players.   The team that does this best should come out on top. 

In many of the Knicks games I've watched this season, they got a lot of help from the officials.  Hopefully they call a fair game in this one.  It's hard to win playing 5 on 8.   The Celtics must adjust to the officiating if the calls start to go against them.   
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: FLCeltsFan on March 26, 2013, 06:38:59 PM
Less than half an hour before game time and no posts.  Wow!  Where's everybody???

Lee out

Jordan Crawford starting. Terry off the bench
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: aporel#18 on March 26, 2013, 06:40:13 PM
Nice game thread, and congrats on your 2000+1 TPs, FL  ;)

I like the Jeff Green vs Iman Shumpert matchup.

Go Celtics!
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: GreenFaith1819 on March 26, 2013, 06:41:08 PM
I guess some have already begun to write us off, lol.

TP for the write-up, FL - thank you.

Looking forward to a good showing tonight from our C's.
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: aporel#18 on March 26, 2013, 06:41:58 PM
Less than half an hour before game time and no posts.  Wow!  Where's everybody???

Lee out

Jordan Crawford starting. Terry off the bench

Forum is going reaaaaallyyy sloooow.

Jordan Crawford will have a beast game.
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: FLCeltsFan on March 26, 2013, 06:44:47 PM
Tyson Chandler out tonight too.

TP to aporel#18 and GreenFaith1819 for being the first to show up.

And thanks for the TP's and the congrats.  Wow!  I had no idea I had that many :)   
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: The Rondo Show on March 26, 2013, 07:00:33 PM
BEAT NY!
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: The Rondo Show on March 26, 2013, 07:04:17 PM
Less than half an hour before game time and no posts.  Wow!  Where's everybody???

Lee out

Jordan Crawford starting. Terry off the bench

Oh boy
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: The Rondo Show on March 26, 2013, 07:09:10 PM
Forum Empty for a Knicks game?????
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: CelticsFan9 on March 26, 2013, 07:11:46 PM
Very winnable game.

Need Green to perform well and defend Melo.

Hopefully Crawford can have a nice showing with the start.
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: The Rondo Show on March 26, 2013, 07:21:23 PM
THis is like a preseason game right now
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: get_banners on March 26, 2013, 07:22:38 PM
brandon bass has to be able to hold on to the ball at some point, right?
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: CelticConcourse on March 26, 2013, 07:24:02 PM
brandon bass has to be able to hold on to the ball at some point, right?

I read on ESPN, I believe, that Bass has the lowest turnover percentage on our team. Hmmm...

And yea. Craw used to start every game in WAS. I like him as a starter.
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: lon3lytoaster on March 26, 2013, 07:24:41 PM
Brandon Bass is a joke.. Mark Blount had better hands.
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: Who on March 26, 2013, 07:25:04 PM
brandon bass has to be able to hold on to the ball at some point, right?

I read on ESPN, I believe, that Bass has the lowest turnover percentage on our team. Hmmm...

And yea. Craw used to start every game in WAS. I like him as a starter.

Bass is a spot-up jump-shooter. Those guys should have very low turnover rates.
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: lon3lytoaster on March 26, 2013, 07:26:19 PM
Avery is the worst finisher I've seen in a minute, too.
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: The Rondo Show on March 26, 2013, 07:27:47 PM
This is disgusting basketball

No intensity at all
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: CelticsFan9 on March 26, 2013, 07:27:49 PM
Serious question:

Will either team break 90?
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: bello_man09 on March 26, 2013, 07:28:41 PM
wow this is going to be a long game
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: MVPPierceNoJoke on March 26, 2013, 07:29:39 PM
Serious question:

Will either team break 90?

I was thinking 80
It may be like the last time we played the Bulls
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: Chief on March 26, 2013, 07:29:46 PM
Doc, play White and we might win.
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: lon3lytoaster on March 26, 2013, 07:31:14 PM
I don't know any one on this TNT broadcast. At all.

Did they finally get the hint their usual announcers are awful?
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: MVPPierceNoJoke on March 26, 2013, 07:31:52 PM
I don't know any one on this TNT broadcast. At all.

Did they finally get the hint their usual announcers are awful?

They are doing the NCAA tournament this week
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: Chief on March 26, 2013, 07:32:01 PM
Does Bass at center make anyone else nauseous?
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: The Rondo Show on March 26, 2013, 07:32:16 PM
This is so so hard to watch

Nobody on either team is playing any defense yet nobody can score
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: Who on March 26, 2013, 07:32:47 PM
Doc, play White and we might win.
Might be a tough game to get DJ White floor time.

Knicks playing small quick perimeter orientated lineups.
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: lon3lytoaster on March 26, 2013, 07:33:03 PM
I don't know any one on this TNT broadcast. At all.

Did they finally get the hint their usual announcers are awful?

They are doing the NCAA tournament this week

Oh I [somehow] didn't think of that. Better than Breen, though so ill take it.
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: Who on March 26, 2013, 07:33:27 PM
Does Bass at center make anyone else nauseous?
This should be Chris Wilcox instead of Bass.
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: Chief on March 26, 2013, 07:33:34 PM
Doc, play White and we might win.
Might be a tough game to get DJ White floor time.

Knicks playing small quick perimeter orientated lineups.

Even more reason to go big!!!
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: Who on March 26, 2013, 07:34:18 PM
I love Kenyon Martin.
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: The Rondo Show on March 26, 2013, 07:34:25 PM
Avery!
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: Chief on March 26, 2013, 07:34:45 PM
Nice pass by Crawford.
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: Who on March 26, 2013, 07:35:09 PM
Doc, play White and we might win.
Might be a tough game to get DJ White floor time.

Knicks playing small quick perimeter orientated lineups.

Even more reason to go big!!!

The matchup is in their favour. Carmelo Anthony (PF) can defend DJ White a hell of a lot better than DJ White can defend Carmelo or JR Smith.

Gotta stay small.
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: kozlodoev on March 26, 2013, 07:35:17 PM
Bradley better pan out as a perennial all-defense first-teamer, because his offensive skills are poor and regressing.
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: lon3lytoaster on March 26, 2013, 07:36:04 PM
And Crawford's hurt. Amazing.

Or maybe not too bad, thankfully.
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: The Rondo Show on March 26, 2013, 07:36:11 PM
Good follow by Green
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: MVPPierceNoJoke on March 26, 2013, 07:36:42 PM
Why is Bradley pressing like that when the team is in the penatly
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: The Rondo Show on March 26, 2013, 07:36:58 PM
How did Wilcox miss that?

If Crawford is actually hurt I'm going to cry no joke
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: Who on March 26, 2013, 07:37:19 PM
I was going to say Wilcox did a nice job avoiding the turnover there but then he goes and blows the layup.
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: Chief on March 26, 2013, 07:38:14 PM
Doc, play White and we might win.
Might be a tough game to get DJ White floor time.

Knicks playing small quick perimeter orientated lineups.

Even more reason to go big!!!

The matchup is in their favour. Carmelo Anthony (PF) can defend DJ White a hell of a lot better than DJ White can defend Carmelo or JR Smith.

Gotta stay small.

Teams stay big against us all the time and usually win.
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: Galeto on March 26, 2013, 07:38:23 PM
Bradley can be so annoying.  Why has he fouled twice 45 feet from the basket?  He does it every game.  They're always going to call it so back off a bit.  Why can't he do that?  Those fouls along with Crawford's dumb swiping foul just gave the Knicks two points from the line.  They were so unnecessary.
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: Who on March 26, 2013, 07:38:55 PM
I kind of wonder if the C's wouldn't be better off if Jordan Crawford went down with an injury.
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: lon3lytoaster on March 26, 2013, 07:39:55 PM
Bradley better pan out as a perennial all-defense first-teamer, because his offensive skills are poor and regressing.

He used to move exceptionally well without the ball. Must've forgotten how to do that effectively. Tis a shame.
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: The Rondo Show on March 26, 2013, 07:40:31 PM
Nice shot by JC
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: Who on March 26, 2013, 07:40:37 PM
Nice turnaround J by Crawford over Kidd
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: MVPPierceNoJoke on March 26, 2013, 07:40:48 PM
I kind of wonder if the C's wouldn't be better off if Jordan Crawford went down with an injury.

That would mean more Terry, so no way
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: The Rondo Show on March 26, 2013, 07:41:11 PM
Lol Jordan Crawford is fun to watch
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: MVPPierceNoJoke on March 26, 2013, 07:41:52 PM
JR Smith vs Crawford
Who is going to shoot there team out of the game first?
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: Who on March 26, 2013, 07:42:06 PM
I still can't get over how many teams passed up on Kenyon Martin this season.
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: The Rondo Show on March 26, 2013, 07:42:35 PM
Crawford is owning
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: The Rondo Show on March 26, 2013, 07:42:48 PM
I still can't get over how many teams passed up on Kenyon Martin this season.

Thanks Danny Ainge

Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: Who on March 26, 2013, 07:42:54 PM
Neither team can defend one another.

Neither side has anywhere near enough help/team defense + rim protection.
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: lon3lytoaster on March 26, 2013, 07:42:57 PM
Crawford is more than a dumb chucker. Didn't know that prior to a couple weeks ago. Pleasant surprise.
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: NocturnalRebel on March 26, 2013, 07:43:45 PM
That was a nice pass by Crawford.
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on March 26, 2013, 07:44:24 PM
Let's go CELTICS!

Hope Jordan Crawford continue this pace. He's doing really good.
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: lon3lytoaster on March 26, 2013, 07:44:28 PM
I still can't get over how many teams passed up on Kenyon Martin this season.

Thanks Danny Ainge

Our chemistry is obviously invaluable and KMart would have disrupted that. Obviously.  >:(
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: get_banners on March 26, 2013, 07:45:16 PM
look, another touch/non foul called on us. i love being the home team and getting all these crappy calls...against us.
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: NocturnalRebel on March 26, 2013, 07:45:32 PM
Refs cheesin on that call.
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: Big Rondo on March 26, 2013, 07:46:07 PM
Crawford is our future long term solution at backup point guard.
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: Galeto on March 26, 2013, 07:46:49 PM
Was it really necessary to take Pierce out for the last 45 seconds of the first?  Yeah, Pierce is going to be so much more energized later in the game because of it.
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: CelticsFan9 on March 26, 2013, 07:47:02 PM
Why did Williams pass out of that drive?  He had an open lane, plus Crawford had a defender near him who successfully closed him out.

T-Will needs to be more aggressive getting to the rim.  It's not like he can't finish when he gets there.
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: YouCantHandleTheTruth! on March 26, 2013, 07:47:54 PM
as always, quarters for the Celtics last 11 minutes. The last one is only played by the opponent.
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: Chief on March 26, 2013, 07:48:16 PM
Crawford is our future long term solution at backup point guard.

For once, I'd like our backup pg to be a true pg.
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: Who on March 26, 2013, 07:48:56 PM
Crawford is our future long term solution at backup point guard.

For once, I'd like our backup pg to be a true pg.

Will Bynum please!
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: BleedGreen1989 on March 26, 2013, 07:49:37 PM
I still can't get over how many teams passed up on Kenyon Martin this season.

Yea celtics could certainly use a motivated Martin right now. Somebody on the roster must of had an issue with him otherwise it makes no sense
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: CelticsFan9 on March 26, 2013, 07:50:56 PM
Crawford is our future long term solution at backup point guard.

For once, I'd like our backup pg to be a true pg.

Will Bynum please!

Is he a FA this summer?
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: get_banners on March 26, 2013, 07:53:33 PM
that's a foul? that's ridiculous. our guys have had worse shots without any calls on the other end.
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: Chief on March 26, 2013, 07:53:57 PM
Paul Piece at pf. :P
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: Who on March 26, 2013, 07:54:51 PM
Crawford is our future long term solution at backup point guard.

For once, I'd like our backup pg to be a true pg.

Will Bynum please!

Is he a FA this summer?

Yes, his contract ends this summer. W.Bynum was being paid $3.23 million. He will probably get something similar this time around. So I am thinking to split the MLE between W.Bynum and a second player.
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: Meadowlark_Scal on March 26, 2013, 07:54:56 PM
BOY AM i glad doc didn't play KG until he got hurt like he did the last three years.yup, doc is such a great, knowledge-able coach.!!! Good thing we didn't play fab melo, we don't need backup bigs.or sign K-mart either....bah..we need 100 guards....!
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: Meadowlark_Scal on March 26, 2013, 07:55:31 PM
Paul Piece at pf. :P
Chief....
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: Who on March 26, 2013, 07:57:18 PM
We need another quick forward with legitimate size. Someone who can help P.Pierce and J.Green grab a breather against lineups like this Knicks one tonight.

We needed someone like a Donte Greene (6-11, 240lbs) or Damion James (6-8, 230lbs) rather than adding two other guards in Terrence Williams + Jordan Crawford.
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: CelticsFan9 on March 26, 2013, 07:57:26 PM
Crawford is our future long term solution at backup point guard.

For once, I'd like our backup pg to be a true pg.

Will Bynum please!

Is he a FA this summer?

Yes, his contract ends this summer. W.Bynum was being paid $3.23 million. He will probably get something similar this time around. So I am thinking to split the MLE between W.Bynum and a second player.

TP for the great idea.  Bynum could make a great backup to Rondo.

Then you've got Williams as the third stringer PG, and that's some decent depth.
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: kozlodoev on March 26, 2013, 07:58:07 PM
Bradley better pan out as a perennial all-defense first-teamer, because his offensive skills are poor and regressing.

He used to move exceptionally well without the ball. Must've forgotten how to do that effectively. Tis a shame.
Well, he now has the ball more. The problem is when he tries to do something with it, it typically ends in a horrifying layup attempt. He shouldn't be taking it to the rack unless it's a wide-open shot.

Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: The Rondo Show on March 26, 2013, 07:58:25 PM
Copeland just got destroyed
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: Who on March 26, 2013, 07:58:54 PM
Wow, Pierce just blew by Copeland with ease. Horrible defense.
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: kozlodoev on March 26, 2013, 07:59:04 PM
Copeland just got destroyed
How is this not a flagrant foul, he never made a play on the ball.
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on March 26, 2013, 07:59:10 PM
How does Paul make that head and shoulder fake move so easy?

I tried it so many times, never worked for me.
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: Meadowlark_Scal on March 26, 2013, 07:59:35 PM
who is covering sith..pp cannot...
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: Meadowlark_Scal on March 26, 2013, 08:00:22 PM
i HATE help defense....who are you helping.....leaving novak is a bad idea...
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: Who on March 26, 2013, 08:00:41 PM
Crazy New York lineup .... no interior player. All shooters.

G - Prigioni
G - Kidd
F - JR Smith
F - Copeland
C - Novak
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: letsgoblue86 on March 26, 2013, 08:01:07 PM
Wow, it's early but these refs have made some bad calls.
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: Meadowlark_Scal on March 26, 2013, 08:01:10 PM
How does Paul make that head and shoulder fake move so easy?

I tried it so many times, never worked for me.

Hahaha, gotta tp you on that...keep trying...i missed it.....but it was funny..!
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: CelticsFan9 on March 26, 2013, 08:01:18 PM
who is covering sith..pp cannot...

Well, we've got this kid Avery Bradley that's pretty good at defense, or at least that's what I've heard.

Maybe someone should notify Doc...
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: Meadowlark_Scal on March 26, 2013, 08:02:18 PM
who is covering sith..pp cannot...

Well, we've got this kid Avery Bradley that's pretty good at defense, or at least that's what I've heard.

Maybe someone should notify Doc...

maybe SOMEONE should TELL smith....he doesn't seem to notice either.....
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: MVPPierceNoJoke on March 26, 2013, 08:03:29 PM
How does Paul make that head and shoulder fake move so easy?

I tried it so many times, never worked for me.

Hahaha, gotta tp you on that...keep trying...i missed it.....but it was funny..!

He always gets the younger guys that one. I love it
And I have also tried it
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: tonyto3690 on March 26, 2013, 08:04:21 PM
BOY AM i glad doc didn't play KG until he got hurt like he did the last three years.yup, doc is such a great, knowledge-able coach.!!! Good thing we didn't play fab melo, we don't need backup bigs.or sign K-mart either....bah..we need 100 guards....!

If we had given Fab Melo even 10 minutes per game, we would probably be 10 games below .500 right now.

Sorry, signing guys just because they play a position is pretty stupid.  We had Collins, Wilcox, KG, Bass, Green, Sullinger.  The bigman problem shouldn't have been an issue.  Bass has taken 3 steps back, Sullinger had back surgery, and Wilcox has also taken a step back.  No one could have seen EVERYTHING going wrong.  By your logic we should have had Rondo, Bradley, Pierce and 12 big men on the roster.

Just stupid logic.  Injuries happen, Sometimes you get unlucky.  If the Heat had Lebron go down, how good do you think they'd be?  We had been playing inspired basketball without two starters including our superstar PG and best rebounder in SUllinger.
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: get_banners on March 26, 2013, 08:04:33 PM
more free points for the knicks. way to go, refs.
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: Chief on March 26, 2013, 08:04:38 PM
Paul Piece at pf. :P
Chief....

It's Knick layup city right now. Pierce probably can cover the other pf, but it kills the Celtics team defense.

Even Woodson said, "they have no shot blockers".
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: tonyto3690 on March 26, 2013, 08:05:23 PM
who is covering sith..pp cannot...

Well, we've got this kid Avery Bradley that's pretty good at defense, or at least that's what I've heard.

Maybe someone should notify Doc...

maybe SOMEONE should TELL smith....he doesn't seem to notice either.....

Yeah, I'm a big Doc supporter, but not having Bradley on him seems pretty stupid.
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: The Rondo Show on March 26, 2013, 08:06:21 PM
Smh
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: CelticsFan9 on March 26, 2013, 08:06:53 PM
Just make it to the playoffs...just make it to the playoffs...just make it to the playoffs.

God this is awful.
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on March 26, 2013, 08:07:35 PM
Knicks are pulling away.

Fight back Celtics.
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: Meadowlark_Scal on March 26, 2013, 08:07:39 PM
BOY AM i glad doc didn't play KG until he got hurt like he did the last three years.yup, doc is such a great, knowledge-able coach.!!! Good thing we didn't play fab melo, we don't need backup bigs.or sign K-mart either....bah..we need 100 guards....!

If we had given Fab Melo even 10 minutes per game, we would probably be 10 games below .500 right now.

Sorry, signing guys just because they play a position is pretty stupid.  We had Collins, Wilcox, KG, Bass, Green, Sullinger.  The bigman problem shouldn't have been an issue.  Bass has taken 3 steps back, Sullinger had back surgery, and Wilcox has also taken a step back.  No one could have seen EVERYTHING going wrong.  By your logic we should have had Rondo, Bradley, Pierce and 12 big men on the roster.

Just stupid logic.  Injuries happen, Sometimes you get unlucky.  If the Heat had Lebron go down, how good do you think they'd be?  We had been playing inspired basketball without two starters including our superstar PG and best rebounder in SUllinger.
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your experience is showing. ::)
k mart was sitting there, and we all know it...except you that is....and your idea of melo is weak..as if you saw him play more than garb ::)ge mins...and guess what...any games back is not an issue if you make the playoffs, and have a totally HEALTHY KG.....if you ever watched the celtics before you would have known that kg goes down EVERY JAN for the last 3 years...from over use......playing a lot would teach you that.and some maturity...it may come to you yet.
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: Chief on March 26, 2013, 08:08:34 PM
I just saw Jeff Green at center. That is stupid!!!!! Don't tell me match-ups, either.
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: kozlodoev on March 26, 2013, 08:09:41 PM
who is covering sith..pp cannot...

Well, we've got this kid Avery Bradley that's pretty good at defense, or at least that's what I've heard.

Maybe someone should notify Doc...

maybe SOMEONE should TELL smith....he doesn't seem to notice either.....

Yeah, I'm a big Doc supporter, but not having Bradley on him seems pretty stupid.
I hear that Bradley kid is sitting on the bench with 2 fouls. Maybe he should stop fouling in the front court.

edit: Also, he now single-handedly gifted 4 points in 10 seconds to the Knicks. That's just dandy.
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: Who on March 26, 2013, 08:10:55 PM
Paul Piece at pf. :P
Chief....

It's Knick layup city right now. Pierce probably can cover the other pf, but it kills the Celtics team defense.

Even Woodson said, "they have no shot blockers".

It wouldn't matter. They would still be 20 feet from the basket defending Novak and Melo at the three point line.

It's going to be tough to get a shot-blocker in there (in the paint) until Kenyon Martin returns.
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: MVPPierceNoJoke on March 26, 2013, 08:11:04 PM
Watching this team turn the ball over 20 times a game really kills me
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: Chief on March 26, 2013, 08:11:08 PM
Doc is getting out-coached.
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: NocturnalRebel on March 26, 2013, 08:11:19 PM
Pierce bit on that one
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: Galeto on March 26, 2013, 08:12:18 PM
Bradley's really sucked lately, on both sides of the ball.  I don't know why he's picked up more ballhandling responsibilities.  He's not a creator or a ballhandler.  Just have in the corner, please.
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: Who on March 26, 2013, 08:12:18 PM
Doc is getting out-coached.
I don't think he is getting out-coached. The other team just has more horses.

Doc doesn't have the options on his bench to respond. No KG. Very little big man talent outside of KG. No forwards with size outside of Pierce/Green. Too many undersized guards.
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: YouCantHandleTheTruth! on March 26, 2013, 08:12:25 PM
AB is turning into a case: he's playing horribly as of lately, his defense went down and his O is back at his rookie year.
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: kozlodoev on March 26, 2013, 08:12:39 PM
Doc is getting out-coached.
I agree, he should have subbed himself in for Avery Bradley -- couldn't have been any worse.
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: The Rondo Show on March 26, 2013, 08:12:51 PM
Crawford is the only one giving 110%
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: CelticsFan9 on March 26, 2013, 08:13:05 PM
This team does an exceptional job of not showing up.
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: tonyto3690 on March 26, 2013, 08:13:30 PM
who is covering sith..pp cannot...

Well, we've got this kid Avery Bradley that's pretty good at defense, or at least that's what I've heard.

Maybe someone should notify Doc...

maybe SOMEONE should TELL smith....he doesn't seem to notice either.....

Yeah, I'm a big Doc supporter, but not having Bradley on him seems pretty stupid.
I hear that Bradley kid is sitting on the bench with 2 fouls. Maybe he should stop fouling in the front court.

edit: Also, he now single-handedly gifted 4 points in 10 seconds to the Knicks. That's just dandy.
No he's not.

He's guarding Pargioni.  The most unathletic PG in the NBA and is like 40 IIRC.

Terry should be on him, and Bradley on the guy who is lighting us up.
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: Meadowlark_Scal on March 26, 2013, 08:13:59 PM
I just saw Jeff Green at center. That is stupid!!!!! Don't tell me match-ups, either.
s soon as sully went out.....and we traded wilcox..should have signed kmart.....or one big anyway.....terry got hip checked there..
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: Who on March 26, 2013, 08:14:57 PM
Really missing Courtney Lee here. Not enough defensive pressure at SG + SF with J.Terry and J.Crawford out there together in this uber-small lineup.
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: CelticsFan9 on March 26, 2013, 08:14:58 PM
Bradley...
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: Meadowlark_Scal on March 26, 2013, 08:15:03 PM
or have terry cover a low maint guy like novak.....novak does nothing but 3's.....easy to cover.....then terry can be fresh for shooting....wish w ehad rondo...
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: The Rondo Show on March 26, 2013, 08:15:07 PM
Is there a worse finisher than Bradley??
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: YouCantHandleTheTruth! on March 26, 2013, 08:15:12 PM
Terry is officially back into sleep mode like at the beginning of the season
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: lon3lytoaster on March 26, 2013, 08:15:31 PM
Bradley.. What in the?..
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: tonyto3690 on March 26, 2013, 08:15:38 PM
Crawford is the only Celtic not playing like complete garbage right now.

Disgusting.
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: kozlodoev on March 26, 2013, 08:15:42 PM
This will be a 20 point game at halftime, which is great -- I'll be able to go cook pizza and play LOTRO with no remorse.
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: CelticsFan9 on March 26, 2013, 08:15:46 PM
Remember when this game was tied at 35?  Neither do I.
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: Galeto on March 26, 2013, 08:15:51 PM
Bradley is an atrocious finisher who also doesn't get to the line.  My goodness.  Just play defense, please.  Just focus on that.
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: MVPPierceNoJoke on March 26, 2013, 08:15:58 PM
Im waiting for Allan Ray and Wally to check in
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: Who on March 26, 2013, 08:16:26 PM
or have terry cover a low maint guy like novak.....novak does nothing but 3's.....easy to cover.....then terry can be fresh for shooting....wish w ehad rondo...
Good idea. I like that but I would prefer to see them hide Jordan Crawford on Novak over Terry.
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: MVPPierceNoJoke on March 26, 2013, 08:16:46 PM
This will be a 20 point game at halftime, which is great -- I'll be able to go cook pizza and play LOTRO with no remorse.

Im thinking the U.S. and Mexico game
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: Meadowlark_Scal on March 26, 2013, 08:16:51 PM
smith is tough..re is green.?
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: timobusa on March 26, 2013, 08:17:00 PM
I love these refs........

So many fouls not called. wow
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: The Rondo Show on March 26, 2013, 08:17:09 PM
Nice play by Pierce!

Why cant he shoot FT's?
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: Who on March 26, 2013, 08:17:33 PM
Due to the dearth of options at SG/SF with J.Green + Pierce playing big man slots, I would keep Wilcox out there against Novak. Stick Wilcox in a bunch of pick and rolls and take advantage of the Knicks weak team + interior defense.
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: The Rondo Show on March 26, 2013, 08:18:04 PM
Fight! Just like that!
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: Meadowlark_Scal on March 26, 2013, 08:18:06 PM
there the C's go with some rebounding...nice.
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: The Rondo Show on March 26, 2013, 08:18:42 PM
Soft
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: letsgoblue86 on March 26, 2013, 08:18:47 PM
Definitely not a foul...except maybe on Melo for all that elbowing he does
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: Meadowlark_Scal on March 26, 2013, 08:18:54 PM
melo is tough....wilcox can cover him..?  green cannot cover him AND be a scorer......
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: MVPPierceNoJoke on March 26, 2013, 08:19:00 PM
Terry is officially back into sleep mode like at the beginning of the season

The Celtics should buy him out
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: kozlodoev on March 26, 2013, 08:19:27 PM
This will be a 20 point game at halftime, which is great -- I'll be able to go cook pizza and play LOTRO with no remorse.

Im thinking the U.S. and Mexico game
Or maybe the Big Bang Theory marathon on TBS. So many choices, so little time...
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: JOMVP on March 26, 2013, 08:19:45 PM
Doesnt matter who the player is... they will beat Jeff Green to the boards. Mugsy Bogues would rebound over that guy.
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: YouCantHandleTheTruth! on March 26, 2013, 08:19:54 PM
That must be Jeff Green brother
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: Chief on March 26, 2013, 08:19:55 PM
Doc is getting out-coached.
I don't think he is getting out-coached. The other team just has more horses.

Doc doesn't have the options on his bench to respond. No KG. Very little big man talent outside of KG. No forwards with size outside of Pierce/Green. Too many undersized guards.

Knicks don't have Chandler, Amare, ...

I guess the Knicks are on a 25 game win streak. Nobody can guard journeyman Novak. All teams must go small to face these Knicks.

All I see is playing small ball but being down 14.  Making JR Smith look like Bernard King.
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: Meadowlark_Scal on March 26, 2013, 08:20:04 PM
Definitely not a foul...except maybe on Melo for all that elbowing he does
you are sooo right..melo is a constant elbow machine.like lebron jr...! No d howard jr.!
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: timobusa on March 26, 2013, 08:20:14 PM
**** here felton, you know that was a foul.

the knicks have been getting all the calls.
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: Meadowlark_Scal on March 26, 2013, 08:21:29 PM
Doc is getting out-coached.
I don't think he is getting out-coached. The other team just has more horses.

Doc doesn't have the options on his bench to respond. No KG. Very little big man talent outside of KG. No forwards with size outside of Pierce/Green. Too many undersized guards.

Knicks don't have Chandler, Amare, ...

I guess the Knicks are on a 25 game win streak. Nobody can guard journeyman Novak. All teams must go small to face these Knicks.

All I see is playing small ball but being down 14.  Making JR Smith look like Bernard King.
Bernard KING.man e was a scoring MACHINE..a ball hog too, but i think he had a high % of made shots though.....right..?
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: KGs Knee on March 26, 2013, 08:21:46 PM
I think I'm gonna do exactly what the C's are doing; take a nap.

Yawn!
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: Meadowlark_Scal on March 26, 2013, 08:22:26 PM
man if ny had chandler and amare..we would be DOUBLE-Toast..!
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: MVPPierceNoJoke on March 26, 2013, 08:24:07 PM
We should trade Jeff Green and our pick for Batum
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: Who on March 26, 2013, 08:25:13 PM
Doc is getting out-coached.
I don't think he is getting out-coached. The other team just has more horses.

Doc doesn't have the options on his bench to respond. No KG. Very little big man talent outside of KG. No forwards with size outside of Pierce/Green. Too many undersized guards.

Knicks don't have Chandler, Amare, ...

I guess the Knicks are on a 25 game win streak. Nobody can guard journeyman Novak. All teams must go small to face these Knicks.

All I see is playing small ball but being down 14.  Making JR Smith look like Bernard King.

Unfortunately, I think all of Doc's big man options are unable to defend Novak. All of them struggle to defend three point shooting bigs. Garnett is the only big on the roster who does that well.

If Doc had better big men and didn't use them, then it would be his fault. But he doesn't have the talent. Not in terms of overall big man talent or the defensive range required to defend a perimeter big like Novak. His hands are tied.

I am all for playing big against this Knicks team if you have the right personnel but this Boston team today doesn't have that.
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: Meadowlark_Scal on March 26, 2013, 08:25:33 PM
i like that commercial with dr drew..old school..nice pic too..pocket pass..LOL....!
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: aporel#18 on March 26, 2013, 08:25:55 PM
Ok, Doc, you are right with the pace thing, but everybody but you can see your players don't want to pick up the pace... stop the small ball nonsense and put the Chinese 3 in the game.

Bad game so far, refs are horrible but Celtics are not playing.

Go Celtics! Come back and beat the Knucklebockers!
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: The Rondo Show on March 26, 2013, 08:26:25 PM
man if ny had chandler and amare..we would be DOUBLE-Toast..!

If we had Rondo, Sully, Lee, and KG we probably wouldn't be
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: Who on March 26, 2013, 08:26:35 PM
I wonder if Wilcox could cover a three point shooter like Novak. It has been awhile since I have seen him try to defend someone like that. He has been defending interior players almost all the time here.

Bass certainly can't. I don't think DJ White or Shavlik Randolph can either.
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: Meadowlark_Scal on March 26, 2013, 08:27:10 PM
true, but novak is preety easy to deny the ball from....he is no ray allen.....he moves little, he can basically just shoot a 3....with little movement....i know, he did that fake.....but just in his face....he has nothing.
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: Chief on March 26, 2013, 08:27:55 PM
man if ny had chandler and amare..we would be DOUBLE-Toast..!

Did you get to see the game the other night? Down about 25, Doc put White and Randolph in. Celtics come roaring back. In 7 minutes Whites has 4 pts, 2 rebounds, and 4 blocks. Randolph had 2 points,4 rebounds, and 1 block. Could of had more points but missed a couple fts.
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: Meadowlark_Scal on March 26, 2013, 08:28:36 PM
I bet wilcox could cover him.he moves well...as we see on those alley-oops....all he has to do is just stay with him then no one will pass to him.
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: Who on March 26, 2013, 08:28:56 PM
true, but novak is preety easy to deny the ball from....he is no ray allen.....he moves little, he can basically just shoot a 3....with little movement....i know, he did that fake.....but just in his face....he has nothing.
It is the team defense sequences that cause problems for bigs. Knowing when and how to play help defense off of a shooter like Novak. Lots of bigs struggle with that.

Getting caught in no-mans land.
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: Meadowlark_Scal on March 26, 2013, 08:30:05 PM
man if ny had chandler and amare..we would be DOUBLE-Toast..!

Did you get to see the game the other night? Down about 25, Doc put White and Randolph in. Celtics come roaring back. In 7 minutes Whites has 4 pts, 2 rebounds, and 4 blocks. Randolph had 2 points,4 rebounds, and 1 block. Could of had more points but missed a couple fts.
no..i wish i saw that....they should be in now....the way he has the ones out there..we have little chance to win this way....i would give them a few to see....they are HUNGRY too.....they will dig in..!
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: Chief on March 26, 2013, 08:30:54 PM
true, but novak is preety easy to deny the ball from....he is no ray allen.....he moves little, he can basically just shoot a 3....with little movement....i know, he did that fake.....but just in his face....he has nothing.

Yeah, just put Terry on him. Heck, play a box and 1. But have some bigs defending the paint.
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: danglertx on March 26, 2013, 08:32:00 PM
Doc is allergic to size.  Instead of making them match up with us, he'd rather they get to put the players out there they want.

Regardless of size, we could just use some energy.  Bass and Wilcox aren't bringing it at all.
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: Chief on March 26, 2013, 08:32:12 PM
man if ny had chandler and amare..we would be DOUBLE-Toast..!

Did you get to see the game the other night? Down about 25, Doc put White and Randolph in. Celtics come roaring back. In 7 minutes Whites has 4 pts, 2 rebounds, and 4 blocks. Randolph had 2 points,4 rebounds, and 1 block. Could of had more points but missed a couple fts.
no..i wish i saw that....they should be in now....the way he has the ones out there..we have little chance to win this way....i would give them a few to see....they are HUNGRY too.....they will dig in..!

Hungry big men!!!! Gobbling up rebounds and blocking shots!!!
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: The Rondo Show on March 26, 2013, 08:32:14 PM
Maybe put some effort in the second half
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: Meadowlark_Scal on March 26, 2013, 08:32:22 PM
true, but novak is preety easy to deny the ball from....he is no ray allen.....he moves little, he can basically just shoot a 3....with little movement....i know, he did that fake.....but just in his face....he has nothing.
It is the team defense sequences that cause problems for bigs. Knowing when and how to play help defense off of a shooter like Novak. Lots of bigs struggle with that.

Getting caught in no-mans land.
\
i guess....i am still amazed that players get fooled on picks....i just yelll out pick, and say you stay high, i take the low roll guy....you know..the talk fixes it..but....i am not nba.....
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: Chief on March 26, 2013, 08:33:12 PM
Doc is allergic to size.  Instead of making them match up with us, he'd rather they get to put the players out there they want.

Regardless of size, we could just use some energy.  Bass and Wilcox aren't bringing it at all.

TP this blogger!!! :)
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: Meadowlark_Scal on March 26, 2013, 08:33:49 PM
man if ny had chandler and amare..we would be DOUBLE-Toast..!
right maybe white or randy can cover melo...?  should try them.we got nothing going as it is.....

Did you get to see the game the other night? Down about 25, Doc put White and Randolph in. Celtics come roaring back. In 7 minutes Whites has 4 pts, 2 rebounds, and 4 blocks. Randolph had 2 points,4 rebounds, and 1 block. Could of had more points but missed a couple fts.
no..i wish i saw that....they should be in now....the way he has the ones out there..we have little chance to win this way....i would give them a few to see....they are HUNGRY too.....they will dig in..!

Hungry big men!!!! Gobbling up rebounds and blocking shots!!!
right maybe white or randy can cover melo...?  should try them.we got nothing going as it is.....
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: The Rondo Show on March 26, 2013, 08:33:57 PM
Doc is allergic to size.  Instead of making them match up with us, he'd rather they get to put the players out there they want.

Regardless of size, we could just use some energy.  Bass and Wilcox aren't bringing it at all.

Agreed
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: timobusa on March 26, 2013, 08:34:16 PM
I hope Doc puts Shav and White in, so we can have somewhat of a presence in the paint.

Doc, make some adjustments please.
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: Chief on March 26, 2013, 08:35:03 PM
true, but novak is preety easy to deny the ball from....he is no ray allen.....he moves little, he can basically just shoot a 3....with little movement....i know, he did that fake.....but just in his face....he has nothing.
It is the team defense sequences that cause problems for bigs. Knowing when and how to play help defense off of a shooter like Novak. Lots of bigs struggle with that.

Getting caught in no-mans land.
\
i guess....i am still amazed that players get fooled on picks....i just yelll out pick, and say you stay high, i take the low roll guy....you know..the talk fixes it..but....i am not nba.....

Sounds like an old vet there.  :)
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: Meadowlark_Scal on March 26, 2013, 08:35:37 PM
Doc is allergic to size.  Instead of making them match up with us, he'd rather they get to put the players out there they want.

Regardless of size, we could just use some energy.  Bass and Wilcox aren't bringing it at all.

Agreed
hahaha, gotta find you to give the TP...allergic..first time i heard it that way....LOL..nice..! He is...
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: Chief on March 26, 2013, 08:36:44 PM
I hope Doc puts Shav and White in, so we can have somewhat of a presence in the paint.

Doc, make some adjustments please.

Doc making halftime adjustments? We talked about that the other night when Hollins did it to us. I can't remember the last time Doc did.
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: Who on March 26, 2013, 08:37:04 PM
true, but novak is preety easy to deny the ball from....he is no ray allen.....he moves little, he can basically just shoot a 3....with little movement....i know, he did that fake.....but just in his face....he has nothing.
It is the team defense sequences that cause problems for bigs. Knowing when and how to play help defense off of a shooter like Novak. Lots of bigs struggle with that.

Getting caught in no-mans land.
\
i guess....i am still amazed that players get fooled on picks....i just yelll out pick, and say you stay high, i take the low roll guy....you know..the talk fixes it..but....i am not nba.....

You could maybe tell your big not to look to help on team defense and stay at home with the shooter. You will have the same problems with your team defense + rebounding (since your big is 20 feet from the hoop) as your smaller lineups.

But you might be able to create better advantage offensively with (1) an interior scorer + offensive rebounder (not Bass) rather than  (2) by going small with an extra guard who can create on the perimeter.
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: The Rondo Show on March 26, 2013, 08:37:33 PM
I hope Doc puts Shav and White in, so we can have somewhat of a presence in the paint.

Doc, make some adjustments please.

That's asking a lot for the highest paid coach in the nba
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: Meadowlark_Scal on March 26, 2013, 08:38:06 PM
Right on CHIEF...thanks..! oh, it is Uncle Drew..he looks like MARTIN..when he plays the security guard..LOL...so crazy funny with that old guy talk....did anyone else see it......?
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: Meadowlark_Scal on March 26, 2013, 08:39:17 PM
I hope Doc puts Shav and White in, so we can have somewhat of a presence in the paint.

Doc, make some adjustments please.

That's asking a lot for the highest paid coach in the nba

Doc needs to run the WHOLE game like it is a last minute play..LOL
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: The Rondo Show on March 26, 2013, 08:40:21 PM
Crawford is cash money
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: NocturnalRebel on March 26, 2013, 08:40:34 PM
I hope Doc gave them an ear full in tha locker room. He can't be satisfied with this effort. This team is frustrating to watch right now. Careless turnovers and not finishing at tha rim when tha opening is there. They have to play harder and pick it up in tha second half.
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: Chief on March 26, 2013, 08:40:44 PM
I hope Doc puts Shav and White in, so we can have somewhat of a presence in the paint.

Doc, make some adjustments please.

That's asking a lot for the highest paid coach in the nba

Doc needs to run the WHOLE game like it is a last minute play..LOL

Pierce ISO?
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: Meadowlark_Scal on March 26, 2013, 08:41:18 PM
true, but novak is preety easy to deny the ball from....he is no ray allen.....he moves little, he can basically just shoot a 3....with little movement....i know, he did that fake.....but just in his face....he has nothing.
It is the team defense sequences that cause problems for bigs. Knowing when and how to play help defense off of a shooter like Novak. Lots of bigs struggle with that.

Getting caught in no-mans land.
\
i guess....i am still amazed that players get fooled on picks....i just yelll out pick, and say you stay high, i take the low roll guy....you know..the talk fixes it..but....i am not nba.....

You could maybe tell your big not to look to help on team defense and stay at home with the shooter. You will have the same problems with your team defense + rebounding (since your big is 20 feet from the hoop) as your smaller lineups.

But you might be able to create better advantage offensively with (1) an interior scorer + offensive rebounder (not Bass) rather than  (2) by going small with an extra guard who can create on the perimeter.
Nice...man.I could use you and Chief on my team as strategist specialists..i jsut yell "TALK", MOVE, and EARN the FOUL...no and1..LOL.
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: The Rondo Show on March 26, 2013, 08:41:46 PM
I hope Doc puts Shav and White in, so we can have somewhat of a presence in the paint.

Doc, make some adjustments please.

That's asking a lot for the highest paid coach in the nba

Doc needs to run the WHOLE game like it is a last minute play..LOL

Pierce ISO?

hahaha i was just about to say that
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: Chief on March 26, 2013, 08:42:15 PM
When Bass is your rebounding leader, you're in trouble.
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: Meadowlark_Scal on March 26, 2013, 08:42:34 PM
Green.nice ..melo only responds to body D..gotta body him early.....
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: The Rondo Show on March 26, 2013, 08:43:39 PM
No pass Bass SMH
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: Meadowlark_Scal on March 26, 2013, 08:43:44 PM
I hope Doc puts Shav and White in, so we can have somewhat of a presence in the paint.

Doc, make some adjustments please.

That's asking a lot for the highest paid coach in the nba

Doc needs to run the WHOLE game like it is a last minute play..LOL

Pierce ISO?

hahaha i was just about to say that
OHNO...not that...a FIVE year old could come around and steal that.....got me there...LOL...i meant...oh well...
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: tonyto3690 on March 26, 2013, 08:44:19 PM
Well they finally are playing with some energy.

We'll see if it lasts.
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: Meadowlark_Scal on March 26, 2013, 08:44:43 PM
BASS is built likea truck..but doesn't really use it well....he CAN dunk strong.but not often enough.....
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: Chief on March 26, 2013, 08:45:00 PM
I'm quite happy with Crawford tonight. Some very nice passes.
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: The Rondo Show on March 26, 2013, 08:45:00 PM
Bass has to be taken out
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: The Rondo Show on March 26, 2013, 08:45:36 PM
PLEASE take Bass out and PLEASE keep feeding Green at the top of the key
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: Meadowlark_Scal on March 26, 2013, 08:45:47 PM
i think bass must have grown up as a skiiny kidthen somehow got big fast.because he doesn't know how big he is..he should be stronger.....
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: Galeto on March 26, 2013, 08:46:17 PM
Why is Bass playing?  He's loss two offensive rebounds and they keep going to him in the post when he's one of the worst post plays in the game.  Doc is horrible.  Oh my gosh.
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: Who on March 26, 2013, 08:46:24 PM
Bass shouldn't be used against K-Mart. This is when Boston can get an interior player on easily. Against K-Mart. It's Chris Wilcox time!!
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: YouCantHandleTheTruth! on March 26, 2013, 08:46:30 PM
Bass should be benched forever. He sucks, period.
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: Meadowlark_Scal on March 26, 2013, 08:46:33 PM
PLEASE take Bass out and PLEASE keep feeding Green at the top of the key
you could be destined for a lot of tp's here.LOL...
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: Who on March 26, 2013, 08:47:02 PM
Ahhh, Pierce telegraphed that pass. Threw it too early too.
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: The Rondo Show on March 26, 2013, 08:47:27 PM
Great advance pass by Green


Pierce's turnovers are unacceptable
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: Meadowlark_Scal on March 26, 2013, 08:47:32 PM
THAT...is how you get it up the floor.....!
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: Who on March 26, 2013, 08:47:47 PM
Oh, excellent job by Jeff Green pulling that rebound over Kenyon Martin and then dribbling out and making the quick long pass to an open Pierce for the easy layup.

Great plays by Jeff Green.
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: The Rondo Show on March 26, 2013, 08:48:10 PM
Keep feeding Green!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: Chief on March 26, 2013, 08:48:10 PM
PLEASE take Bass out and PLEASE keep feeding Green at the top of the key
you could be destined for a lot of tp's here.LOL...

Already gave him 1.
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: Chief on March 26, 2013, 08:49:00 PM
Oh, excellent job by Jeff Green pulling that rebound over Kenyon Martin and then dribbling out and making the quick long pass to an open Pierce for the easy layup.

Great plays by Jeff Green.

Yes, Yes.
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: Meadowlark_Scal on March 26, 2013, 08:49:18 PM
PLEASE take Bass out and PLEASE keep feeding Green at the top of the key
you could be destined for a lot of tp's here.LOL...

Already gave him 1.
we need to shorten that karma thing....you need a tp too..!
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: Who on March 26, 2013, 08:49:55 PM
I'm quite happy with Crawford tonight. Some very nice passes.
Yeah, he is having a really great game offensively. Playing well.
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: Meadowlark_Scal on March 26, 2013, 08:50:20 PM
Feed the GREEN....you got something there.!
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: Galeto on March 26, 2013, 08:50:27 PM
Why can't Doc at least try to have Randolph or White in there instead of Bass?  You can't make a comeback if you can't finish defensive possessions.  Bass is one of the worst players in the game.  A big who is severely below-average in every aspect of the besides mid-range jumpers should not be getting heavy playing time.  How many times can he screw up without being taken out. 
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: dinome18 on March 26, 2013, 08:51:29 PM
Why do Danny and Doc continue to watch this team lose games bc of rebounding and second chance points and do nothing to solve it.  ???
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: Chief on March 26, 2013, 08:51:43 PM
Crawford can keep the starting sg spot. 21 points already, some nice assists, 5 rebounds, and 9-10 from the line.
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: tgreanier on March 26, 2013, 08:52:40 PM
Bass needs to just go away. Far away.
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: The Rondo Show on March 26, 2013, 08:52:58 PM
THank god for Jeff Green's long arms lol
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: Who on March 26, 2013, 08:53:15 PM
Ugh, now Bradley telegraphs the pass. Shumpert unlikely not to come away with it there.

A bit more care with the ball please.
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: Chief on March 26, 2013, 08:53:25 PM
I didn't think Doc liked to switch on defense. But Bass always does. I see him guarding Smith, Lebron, Kobe...
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: NocturnalRebel on March 26, 2013, 08:54:19 PM
Wow Bass. Should have just let it went out
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: The Rondo Show on March 26, 2013, 08:54:53 PM
Avery wanted the poster
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: The Rondo Show on March 26, 2013, 08:56:13 PM
Wow
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: Fafnir on March 26, 2013, 08:56:41 PM
It'd be nice to get a fair shake on the calls this game, very similar contact and C's can't buy a call.
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: Meadowlark_Scal on March 26, 2013, 08:56:52 PM
lame call..kidd stepped inot that pick-bnlock
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: The Rondo Show on March 26, 2013, 08:57:01 PM
Doc Rivers is senile with this lineup
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: Tr1boy on March 26, 2013, 08:57:11 PM
the last two possession by crawford. These are the reasons why i don't like this kid. Just wild
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: tonyto3690 on March 26, 2013, 08:57:18 PM
Why do Danny and Doc continue to watch this team lose games bc of rebounding and second chance points and do nothing to solve it.  ???

Because quality bigmen who can rebound and defend are a very expensive luxury that are hard to find.

You're acting like they are purposefully ignoring it or don't see it.  Sorry, Dwight Howards don't grow on trees. 
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: Shamrocker on March 26, 2013, 08:57:24 PM
I love AB, but he really needs to attend a shooting clinic this summer. Or hire a shot doctor.
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: Galeto on March 26, 2013, 08:58:52 PM
Doc and Ainge are something else.  Doc doesn't give guys without a track record a chance.  So what does Ainge do?  Sign two journey man guys from China who will only play during blowouts or against Charlotte, leaving Bass free to crap all over the team. 
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: The Rondo Show on March 26, 2013, 08:58:56 PM
Why do Danny and Doc continue to watch this team lose games bc of rebounding and second chance points and do nothing to solve it.  ???

Because quality bigmen who can rebound and defend are a very expensive luxury that are hard to find.

You're acting like they are purposefully ignoring it or don't see it.  Sorry, Dwight Howards don't grow on trees.

He can at least TRY to get his money's worth with ONE of these big men we have sitting on the bench lol
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: Shamrocker on March 26, 2013, 08:59:58 PM
Why do Danny and Doc continue to watch this team lose games bc of rebounding and second chance points and do nothing to solve it.  ???

Because quality bigmen who can rebound and defend are a very expensive luxury that are hard to find.

You're acting like they are purposefully ignoring it or don't see it.  Sorry, Dwight Howards don't grow on trees.

He can at least TRY to get his money's worth with ONE of these big men we have sitting on the bench lol

I agree with this.
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: The Rondo Show on March 26, 2013, 09:00:01 PM
Doc and Ainge are something else.  Doc doesn't give guys without a track record a chance.  So what does Ainge do?  Sign two journey man guys from China who will only play during blowouts or against Charlotte, leaving Bass free to crap all over the team.

haha well said
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: NocturnalRebel on March 26, 2013, 09:00:20 PM
Sometimes I wonder how Danny feels when he signs players that Doc doesn't even play.
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: Fafnir on March 26, 2013, 09:01:48 PM
Why do Danny and Doc continue to watch this team lose games bc of rebounding and second chance points and do nothing to solve it.  ???

Because quality bigmen who can rebound and defend are a very expensive luxury that are hard to find.

You're acting like they are purposefully ignoring it or don't see it.  Sorry, Dwight Howards don't grow on trees.

He can at least TRY to get his money's worth with ONE of these big men we have sitting on the bench lol
With the Knicks going small why would we go big? Its not like White/Randolph are going to punish the Knicks.
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: Who on March 26, 2013, 09:02:18 PM
Ohh, another put-back slam dunk by Kenyon Martin.

Man, I wish Danny would've signed that guy.
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: Meadowlark_Scal on March 26, 2013, 09:02:29 PM
Sometimes I wonder how Danny feels when he signs players that Doc doesn't even play.
THAT is what I'm saying....and he never does.guys he had in oct-nov-dec..he could have run them then at least...see what they can become...at least trade bait....!
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: dinome18 on March 26, 2013, 09:02:46 PM
Why do Danny and Doc continue to watch this team lose games bc of rebounding and second chance points and do nothing to solve it.  ???

Because quality bigmen who can rebound and defend are a very expensive luxury that are hard to find.
Such a well thought out retort. ;D

You're acting like they are purposefully ignoring it or don't see it.  Sorry, Dwight Howards don't grow on trees.
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: The Rondo Show on March 26, 2013, 09:02:53 PM
Ohh, another put-back slam dunk by Kenyon Martin.

Man, I wish Danny would've signed that guy.

Or Birdman

Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: Fafnir on March 26, 2013, 09:03:00 PM
Ohh, another put-back slam dunk by Kenyon Martin.

Man, I wish Danny would've signed that guy.
Yeah, him or birdman would be really helpful right now.
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: Chief on March 26, 2013, 09:03:15 PM
Why do Danny and Doc continue to watch this team lose games bc of rebounding and second chance points and do nothing to solve it.  ???

Because quality bigmen who can rebound and defend are a very expensive luxury that are hard to find.

You're acting like they are purposefully ignoring it or don't see it.  Sorry, Dwight Howards don't grow on trees.

He can at least TRY to get his money's worth with ONE of these big men we have sitting on the bench lol

I agree with this.

Me too
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: Shamrocker on March 26, 2013, 09:03:44 PM
Why do Danny and Doc continue to watch this team lose games bc of rebounding and second chance points and do nothing to solve it.  ???

Because quality bigmen who can rebound and defend are a very expensive luxury that are hard to find.

You're acting like they are purposefully ignoring it or don't see it.  Sorry, Dwight Howards don't grow on trees.

He can at least TRY to get his money's worth with ONE of these big men we have sitting on the bench lol
With the Knicks going small why would we go big? Its not like White/Randolph are going to punish the Knicks.

You do realize we're having trouble rebounding, right?
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: Who on March 26, 2013, 09:03:46 PM
Ohh, another put-back slam dunk by Kenyon Martin.

Man, I wish Danny would've signed that guy.

Or Birdman

I wanted both of them. I still think they would have been a great combo off the bench. Given the team's backup big men some much needed physical toughness, interior defense and rebounding.
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: Fafnir on March 26, 2013, 09:03:51 PM
Fringe NBA players aren't our salvation. The sad truth is that Bass is a better player than both of them.
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: Meadowlark_Scal on March 26, 2013, 09:03:58 PM
Ohh, another put-back slam dunk by Kenyon Martin.

Man, I wish Danny would've signed that guy.
he talked about it in the herald today....well doc did....evasion tactics.....doc said..we would have signed him right away, if he was a guard....LOL....not really like that but....
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: Chief on March 26, 2013, 09:05:21 PM
How many point does it take before Doc makes adjustments?

Small ball is not working. That's what the Knicks wanted. They are better at it than us.
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: Galeto on March 26, 2013, 09:06:04 PM
Doc might be the worst coach in the NBA.  If the Celtics hadn't gotten Thibs, he might've gotten fired years ago.
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: Chief on March 26, 2013, 09:06:21 PM
How many point does it take before Doc makes adjustments?

Small ball is not working. That's what the Knicks wanted. They are better at it than us.

Never mind. Adjustments made. Jeff Green at center. :'(
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: Who on March 26, 2013, 09:06:26 PM
Kidd is a fantastic leader. His mental toughness was such an under-rated factor in Dallas' run to a Championship. Never panics no matter the situation. Just keeps competing and playing with urgency, focus and always team-orientated. No matter whether they are up 10 or down 20. Plays the same way.

A great example to his teammates.
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: Meadowlark_Scal on March 26, 2013, 09:06:39 PM
Sunday Heat vs SA...go SA..!!!
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: dinome18 on March 26, 2013, 09:06:47 PM
Why do Danny and Doc continue to watch this team lose games bc of rebounding and second chance points and do nothing to solve it.  ???

Because quality bigmen who can rebound and defend are a very expensive luxury that are hard to find.

You're acting like they are purposefully ignoring it or don't see it.  Sorry, Dwight Howards don't grow on trees.
Such a well thought out retort. Good grief! ;D
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: The Rondo Show on March 26, 2013, 09:07:06 PM
Might be time to hit the bench tonight
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: timobusa on March 26, 2013, 09:07:18 PM
Fringe NBA players aren't our salvation. The sad truth is that Bass is a better player than both of them.

Sure doesn't look like it.
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: Chief on March 26, 2013, 09:07:37 PM
Just stupid...Some coaches would get fired for crap like this.
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: Shamrocker on March 26, 2013, 09:08:01 PM
Might be time to hit the bench tonight

Yup, clear the bench and see if they can bring us back, like last game.
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: Fafnir on March 26, 2013, 09:08:08 PM
Fringe NBA players aren't our salvation. The sad truth is that Bass is a better player than both of them.

Sure doesn't look like it.
But its true. Bass is a nba rotation level player, Randolph/White couldn't even get a minimum contract at the start of the season.
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: aporel#18 on March 26, 2013, 09:08:21 PM
Put the Chinese 3 ASAP, Doc

We're not getting the "keep the game close" ref treatment, surprise surprise...

Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: The Rondo Show on March 26, 2013, 09:09:19 PM
Ball don't lie
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: timobusa on March 26, 2013, 09:09:28 PM
Seriously though, why don't we fight small with big?


And these refs are so biased. It's unbelievable.
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: Fafnir on March 26, 2013, 09:09:29 PM
Nothing like getting a snow job by the refs when you're at home, yikes.
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: Chief on March 26, 2013, 09:09:50 PM
3 guards and 2 sfs on the floor for the Celtics. I wonder why we are down 15?
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: The Rondo Show on March 26, 2013, 09:10:30 PM
Not fair
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: Who on March 26, 2013, 09:10:56 PM
Out-gunned tonight

Melo and JR Smith have 52 points between them.

Terry another no-show performance. Pierce has been too quiet. Too many turnovers too. Green and Crawford have done well but they haven't gotten enough help.
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: Fafnir on March 26, 2013, 09:11:09 PM
Seriously though, why don't we fight small with big?


And these refs are so biased. It's unbelievable.
Because we haven't been able to guard them with our small line up. Its not likely to get better with shaky defensive bigs trying to cover shooters.

Ugh Smith is killing us tonight.
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: Shamrocker on March 26, 2013, 09:11:15 PM
Nothing like getting a snow job by the refs when you're at home, yikes.

Less to do with the refs, more to do with Doc's rotations.
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: NocturnalRebel on March 26, 2013, 09:11:31 PM
Fringe NBA players aren't our salvation. The sad truth is that Bass is a better player than both of them.

Doesn't mean shouldn't play them though.
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: Chief on March 26, 2013, 09:11:57 PM
Fringe NBA players aren't our salvation. The sad truth is that Bass is a better player than both of them.

Sure doesn't look like it.
But its true. Bass is a nba rotation level player, Randolph/White couldn't even get a minimum contract at the start of the season.

Right now, the way he has been playing, Bass would have a hard time making some teams.
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: aporel#18 on March 26, 2013, 09:12:00 PM
Not fair

SterNBA at its finest... but we don't deserve anything playing like this.
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: Fafnir on March 26, 2013, 09:12:15 PM
Out-gunned tonight

Melo and JR Smith have 52 points between them.

Terry another no-show performance. Pierce has been too quiet. Too many turnovers too. Green and Crawford have done well but they haven't gotten enough help.
Terry has been such a disappointment.

Can't seem to be an impact guy no matter what combination they put out there with him.
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: Who on March 26, 2013, 09:12:36 PM
Seriously though, why don't we fight small with big?
Because our bigs are not good enough to force them away (or punish) their small ball lineups.

Our big men suck.
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: Meadowlark_Scal on March 26, 2013, 09:12:37 PM
Okay, look at the score.....WHAT could it hurt to put Randy and or White in.....remember the word BACKUP, as in.guys we might NEED in the playoffs should an injury happen..play 'em now..it will not hurt worse than we already are....and we might get something back for our investment.....!
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: Chief on March 26, 2013, 09:12:58 PM
Nothing like getting a snow job by the refs when you're at home, yikes.

Less to do with the refs, more to do with Doc's rotations.

TP!!!
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: Galeto on March 26, 2013, 09:13:10 PM
Fringe NBA players aren't our salvation. The sad truth is that Bass is a better player than both of them.

Sure doesn't look like it.
But its true. Bass is a nba rotation level player, Randolph/White couldn't even get a minimum contract at the start of the season.

The way Bass has been playing, he would not get a minimum contract either if he was a free agent. 

If they're both worse than Bass, so be it but maybe their specific skills will be better for this team.  Another thing, how about holding Bass accountable for his horrible play.  Maybe it will light a fire under him and make him play better. 
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: dinome18 on March 26, 2013, 09:13:19 PM
We are shooting 3% higher than the Knicks right now, same made FT's. Down 15
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: Fafnir on March 26, 2013, 09:13:31 PM
Seriously though, why don't we fight small with big?
Because our bigs are not good enough to force them away (or punish) their small ball lineups.
And they'll pick us apart defensively with little to no gain on the boards or down low offensively.
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: Meadowlark_Scal on March 26, 2013, 09:13:38 PM
we need Nicky FLash...!
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: tonyto3690 on March 26, 2013, 09:14:14 PM
Why do Danny and Doc continue to watch this team lose games bc of rebounding and second chance points and do nothing to solve it.  ???

Because quality bigmen who can rebound and defend are a very expensive luxury that are hard to find.

You're acting like they are purposefully ignoring it or don't see it.  Sorry, Dwight Howards don't grow on trees.

He can at least TRY to get his money's worth with ONE of these big men we have sitting on the bench lol
Are you really so naive to think you know better than Doc and Ainge- the two paid professionals who get millions of dollars to evaluate and coach basketball players?

If Doc thought they'd be anything better than massive liabilities they'd be playing.  Crawford started playing immediately because Doc didn't think he'd be a massive liability and would help the team. 

Having a 7 footer who is slower than molasses and is awful is NOT better than a guy who is 6'8 and mediocre.
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: Who on March 26, 2013, 09:14:58 PM
Gotta get this to single digits quickly to have a chance at a comeback.

It's going to be tough to get stops against this Knicks team. Need to catch fire offensively.
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: The Rondo Show on March 26, 2013, 09:15:06 PM
Good job Terrence!
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: kozlodoev on March 26, 2013, 09:15:17 PM
we need Nicky FLash...!
No, we need Nicky Beef. And pray he's 7 feet tall at least.
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: tonyto3690 on March 26, 2013, 09:15:47 PM
Avery Bradley has been awful.

Jason Kidd and Pargioni have been beating him off the dribble and he hasn't been able to hit anything.
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: Fafnir on March 26, 2013, 09:15:50 PM
Fringe NBA players aren't our salvation. The sad truth is that Bass is a better player than both of them.

Sure doesn't look like it.
But its true. Bass is a nba rotation level player, Randolph/White couldn't even get a minimum contract at the start of the season.

The way Bass has been playing, he would not get a minimum contract either if he was a free agent. 

This isn't true. Bass is shooting around the same percentage as last year, rebounding the same, and overall playing a similar level of defense.

He's not shooting as much though, and that's a problem he has to provide scoring with his skillset.
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: timobusa on March 26, 2013, 09:15:59 PM
we need Nicky FLash...!

close.

haha
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: The Rondo Show on March 26, 2013, 09:16:01 PM
Avery got toasted by Kidd

brutal
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: Chief on March 26, 2013, 09:16:08 PM
Layup city, Doc.
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: Galeto on March 26, 2013, 09:16:10 PM
Bass is re-entering the game.  It's over, if it wasn't already.
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: The Rondo Show on March 26, 2013, 09:16:47 PM
Feed Terrence
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: Fafnir on March 26, 2013, 09:17:04 PM
Avery got toasted by Kidd

brutal
Yeah Bradley hasn't gotten it done tonight, none of our guards have defensively.
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: Shamrocker on March 26, 2013, 09:17:56 PM
Fringe NBA players aren't our salvation. The sad truth is that Bass is a better player than both of them.

Sure doesn't look like it.
But its true. Bass is a nba rotation level player, Randolph/White couldn't even get a minimum contract at the start of the season.

The way Bass has been playing, he would not get a minimum contract either if he was a free agent. 

This isn't true. Bass is shooting around the same percentage as last year, rebounding the same, and overall playing a similar level of defense.

He's not shooting as much though, and that's a problem he has to provide scoring with his skillset.

Brandon, is that you???  ;)
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: Who on March 26, 2013, 09:18:11 PM
Bass' play is depressing. Need more scoring from him.

I have no belief in his ability to improve as a defender or rebounder (he is what he is) but at least he used to be a good bench scorer. He got around 15 points per 36 minutes for 4-5 years. His scoring is down a third per minute (10 points per 36 minutes) this season. Gotta get him scoring again.

That bloody contract. Going to be so difficult to trade. Negative trade value.
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: kozlodoev on March 26, 2013, 09:18:26 PM
Trading baskets just isn't going to cut it right now.
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: The Rondo Show on March 26, 2013, 09:18:46 PM
Terrence!!
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: Meadowlark_Scal on March 26, 2013, 09:19:19 PM
we need Nicky FLash...!

close.

haha
owe ya a tp...karma waiting..love those ads...!
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: Who on March 26, 2013, 09:20:01 PM
The perimeter defense at the point of attack has been really weak tonight.

No interior defense to help them out. They needed a super-game and they didn't bring it. Courtney Lee would have been of great help tonight.
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: Fafnir on March 26, 2013, 09:20:15 PM
Bass' play is depressing. Need more scoring from him.

I have no belief in his ability to improve as a defender or rebounder (he is what he is) but at least he used to be a good bench scorer. He got around 15 points per 36 minutes for 4-5 years. His scoring is down a third per minute (10 points per 36 minutes) this season. Gotta get him scoring again.

That bloody contract. Going to be so difficult to trade. Negative trade value.
We used to  get him a ton of pick and pop shots every game and he killed on them. He shot poorly to start the season and since then he just hasn't been aggressive with his shot, nor has the team continued to work those looks for him.

Now with Rondo gone, there are far less chances for that anyways though....
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: timobusa on March 26, 2013, 09:20:28 PM
Terrence gonna cut this lead down to 5. Then doc is gonna bring in bass and run plays for him and terry. then new york will be back up 15
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: Meadowlark_Scal on March 26, 2013, 09:20:49 PM
Bass' play is depressing. Need more scoring from him.

I have no belief in his ability to improve as a defender or rebounder (he is what he is) but at least he used to be a good bench scorer. He got around 15 points per 36 minutes for 4-5 years. His scoring is down a third per minute (10 points per 36 minutes) this season. Gotta get him scoring again.

That bloody contract. Going to be so difficult to trade. Negative trade value.

trade him for BBD..LOL...and i hate BBD..where is chicken mcnugget dippin-glen-davis.?
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: Chief on March 26, 2013, 09:21:07 PM
Trading baskets just isn't going to cut it right now.

All that is going to happen with this lineup. Doc is a fool.
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: Fafnir on March 26, 2013, 09:21:16 PM
The perimeter defense at the point of attack has been really weak tonight.

No interior defense to help them out. They needed a super-game and they didn't bring it. Courtney Lee would have been of great help tonight.
Team just looks tired both mentally and physically.
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: Galeto on March 26, 2013, 09:22:05 PM
Fringe NBA players aren't our salvation. The sad truth is that Bass is a better player than both of them.

Sure doesn't look like it.
But its true. Bass is a nba rotation level player, Randolph/White couldn't even get a minimum contract at the start of the season.

The way Bass has been playing, he would not get a minimum contract either if he was a free agent. 

This isn't true. Bass is shooting around the same percentage as last year, rebounding the same, and overall playing a similar level of defense.

He's not shooting as much though, and that's a problem he has to provide scoring with his skillset.

There is no way to win against your argument.  Since Bass got a chance in the NBA and a contract, therefore he is automatically better. 

Do I think Randolph and White are saviors?  Of course not.  But are you really against even giving those two guys a chance when Bass is playing a scrub level?  They have nothing to lose except by more points.
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: Meadowlark_Scal on March 26, 2013, 09:23:27 PM
announcer said ..."doc loved darko....then darko wasn't happy with his playing time and left"..ya think....?
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: Fafnir on March 26, 2013, 09:25:29 PM
Fringe NBA players aren't our salvation. The sad truth is that Bass is a better player than both of them.

Sure doesn't look like it.
But its true. Bass is a nba rotation level player, Randolph/White couldn't even get a minimum contract at the start of the season.

The way Bass has been playing, he would not get a minimum contract either if he was a free agent. 

This isn't true. Bass is shooting around the same percentage as last year, rebounding the same, and overall playing a similar level of defense.

He's not shooting as much though, and that's a problem he has to provide scoring with his skillset.

There is no way to win against your argument.  Since Bass got a chance in the NBA and a contract, therefore he is automatically better. 

Do I think Randolph and White are saviors?  Of course not.  But are you really against even giving those two guys a chance when Bass is playing a scrub level?  They have nothing to lose except by more points.
There is no way to "win" against your argument either, as White/Randolph aren't going to suddenly be given 27 MPG to "prove" they're worse than Bass.

Backup big men are the backup QBs of Celticsblog. Even when they quit on the team.
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: Meadowlark_Scal on March 26, 2013, 09:26:04 PM
how can melo jsut bull it in with no foul....he is lebron jr with those shoulders......
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: The Rondo Show on March 26, 2013, 09:26:21 PM
I have tickets to Bos @ NYK on Sunday


Hopefully we dont make asses out of ourselves again
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: Who on March 26, 2013, 09:26:41 PM
Ah okay, this is where I give up on the game. Down 17 with 6 minutes left.
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: tonyto3690 on March 26, 2013, 09:27:35 PM
What a freaking pathetic showing.  Pathetic.  Terrible on so many levels.

When Jason Kidd and Pargioni are getting to the rim at will you know you're pathetic.

Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: Chief on March 26, 2013, 09:27:55 PM
1. Why am i still watching?

2. Does Doc really think this team can comeback?

3. Do you think the Celtics will get eliminated in the 1st round?
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: Meadowlark_Scal on March 26, 2013, 09:27:59 PM
I have tickets to Bos @ NYK on Sunday


Hopefully we dont make asses out of ourselves again
bring beer money.and a few nips in yo pockett.LOL...!
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: Shamrocker on March 26, 2013, 09:28:23 PM
1. Why am i still watching?

2. Does Doc really think this team can comeback?

3. Do you think the Celtics will get eliminated in the 1st round?
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: Meadowlark_Scal on March 26, 2013, 09:29:25 PM
1. Why am i still watching?

2. Does Doc really think this team can comeback?

3. Do you think the Celtics will get eliminated in the 1st round?
#3, a good chance of it.....
#2 does doc....THINK....?
#1.?
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: Fafnir on March 26, 2013, 09:29:32 PM
Yikes I just looked at the TO numbers. Ugly, 19 to 7.
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: timobusa on March 26, 2013, 09:29:36 PM
What a freaking pathetic showing.  Pathetic.  Terrible on so many levels.

When Jason Kidd and Pargioni are getting to the rim at will you know you're pathetic.

those guys are 75 years old combined.

somethings must be bothering avery bradley tonight.
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: Lightskinsmurf on March 26, 2013, 09:30:06 PM
"This game is already boring me and making me sleepy." This is what I typed at the start of the game before falling asleep. I just woke up, glad I went to sleep lol.
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: Galeto on March 26, 2013, 09:30:39 PM
Fringe NBA players aren't our salvation. The sad truth is that Bass is a better player than both of them.

Sure doesn't look like it.
But its true. Bass is a nba rotation level player, Randolph/White couldn't even get a minimum contract at the start of the season.

The way Bass has been playing, he would not get a minimum contract either if he was a free agent. 

This isn't true. Bass is shooting around the same percentage as last year, rebounding the same, and overall playing a similar level of defense.

He's not shooting as much though, and that's a problem he has to provide scoring with his skillset.

There is no way to win against your argument.  Since Bass got a chance in the NBA and a contract, therefore he is automatically better. 

Do I think Randolph and White are saviors?  Of course not.  But are you really against even giving those two guys a chance when Bass is playing a scrub level?  They have nothing to lose except by more points.
There is no way to "win" against your argument either, as White/Randolph aren't going to suddenly be given 27 MPG to "prove" they're worse than Bass.

Backup big men are the backup QBs of Celticsblog. Even when they quit on the team.

Are you seriously saying Bass is a rotation quality player right now?  Are we arguing about that?  There's a very good chance that Randolph and White are worse or the same but even if the chance that they're better FOR WHAT THIS TEAM needs, aka rebounding, is tiny, why not at least give them a chance.  They're on the roster, they're signed for the year, why are they on the team if a crap player like Bass is going to play heavy minutes.  That's a huge failing by Doc and Ainge, no?
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: Fafnir on March 26, 2013, 09:30:43 PM
What a freaking pathetic showing.  Pathetic.  Terrible on so many levels.

When Jason Kidd and Pargioni are getting to the rim at will you know you're pathetic.

those guys are 75 years old combined.

somethings must be bothering avery bradley tonight.
Could be, or just a bad game. Not like he's getting help from the rest of the team.
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: Meadowlark_Scal on March 26, 2013, 09:30:48 PM
RANDY-TIME....!
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: reelbig4 on March 26, 2013, 09:30:58 PM
Doc Rivers sucks big time!!!
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: Shamrocker on March 26, 2013, 09:31:03 PM
1. Why am i still watching?

2. Does Doc really think this team can comeback?

3. Do you think the Celtics will get eliminated in the 1st round?

I'll play...

1. Waiting for Doc to unleash DJ and Randolph

2. No.

3. Likely, yes
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: The Rondo Show on March 26, 2013, 09:31:09 PM
Watch us come roaring back now lol
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: timobusa on March 26, 2013, 09:31:15 PM
shav is in, lets start this run!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: Who on March 26, 2013, 09:31:40 PM
3. Do you think the Celtics will get eliminated in the 1st round?

I think the first round is going to be pretty much a 50-50 proposition. They have very little real separation from any of the teams around them. New York, Brooklyn, Indiana, Atlanta. All would be tough series'. Winnable but also losable. Could go either way. Very little in it.

Maybe a slight edge to Boston. Say 52-48. Hardly any separation. So closely matched to the teams around them in the East and below Miami. 
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: Chief on March 26, 2013, 09:31:58 PM
Even though we don't always agree, I'm trying to give everyone a TP. I truly enjoy all the company while watching the games.
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: The Rondo Show on March 26, 2013, 09:32:20 PM
Randolph with 2 rebounds in 30 seconds lol
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: Meadowlark_Scal on March 26, 2013, 09:32:30 PM
randy with a nice rebound.then they shoulda fed him on the baseline.....
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: aporel#18 on March 26, 2013, 09:33:43 PM
Put DJ also, Doc...

This is one of those nights, yeah.

Go Celtics!
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: CelticsFan9 on March 26, 2013, 09:33:44 PM
Even though we don't always agree, I'm trying to give everyone a TP. I truly enjoy all the company while watching the games.

Right back atcha.  Been a tough night for all.
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: The Rondo Show on March 26, 2013, 09:34:06 PM
Shavlik for MVP
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: Meadowlark_Scal on March 26, 2013, 09:34:21 PM
Even though we don't always agree, I'm trying to give everyone a TP. I truly enjoy all the company while watching the games.
Ya me too.....sorry to the guy i went off on.please do not lead off with calling me or anyone names...just respond to the post...we are ALL here for the SAME team...!
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: Fafnir on March 26, 2013, 09:34:38 PM

Are you seriously saying Bass is a rotation quality player right now?  Are we arguing about that?  There's a very good chance that Randolph and White are worse or the same but even if the chance that they're better FOR WHAT THIS TEAM needs, aka rebounding, is tiny, why not at least give them a chance.  They're on the roster, they're signed for the year, why are they on the team if a crap player like Bass is going to play heavy minutes.  That's a huge failing by Doc and Ainge, no?
Bass is a rotation caliber player. He's not a starting level player who should be getting 30+ as de facto center which is what he's been put into with KG out. He really shouldn't be getting 30 minutes at PF either.

DJ White is barely a better rebounder than Bass and a much worse defender.

Randolph has gotten so few minutes the past few years I have no idea what he's capable of. The few stretches I've seen him this year he was pretty bad on the glass though. (Charlotte? Just got muscled around a lot)
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: Boston Garden Leprechaun on March 26, 2013, 09:35:05 PM
5 STRAIGHT LOSSES! marvelous! just marvelous! at this rate we will fall to the 8th seed and get swept in 4 by the heat.
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: Meadowlark_Scal on March 26, 2013, 09:35:20 PM
Even though we don't always agree, I'm trying to give everyone a TP. I truly enjoy all the company while watching the games.

Right back atcha.  Been a tough night for all.
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: Galeto on March 26, 2013, 09:35:32 PM
I have to say, Ainge going on a signing frenzy in the Chinese League and then trading for a player in Crawford who had been kicked out of the rotation of a struggling team is not looking for him right now. 
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: The Rondo Show on March 26, 2013, 09:35:53 PM
It's funny how Bass gets White's garbage time minutes too

Shavlik is a monster
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: timobusa on March 26, 2013, 09:35:56 PM
23 fouls to 16.

wooot woot
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: Fafnir on March 26, 2013, 09:36:09 PM
5 STRAIGHT LOSSES! marvelous! just marvelous! at this rate we will fall to the 8th seed and get swept in 4 by the heat.
Fortunately for us the Bucks have been equally bad.
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: NocturnalRebel on March 26, 2013, 09:36:47 PM
This team could have used Randolph's hustle a long time ago.
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: MVPPierceNoJoke on March 26, 2013, 09:37:02 PM
1. Why am i still watching?

2. Does Doc really think this team can comeback?

3. Do you think the Celtics will get eliminated in the 1st round?

1 You like to complain
2 No
3 Yes in 7
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: Lightskinsmurf on March 26, 2013, 09:37:20 PM
5 STRAIGHT LOSSES! marvelous! just marvelous! at this rate we will fall to the 8th seed and get swept in 4 by the heat.

Lol
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: Chief on March 26, 2013, 09:37:32 PM
Randolph looking good. If you like rebounds.
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: Galeto on March 26, 2013, 09:37:50 PM

Are you seriously saying Bass is a rotation quality player right now?  Are we arguing about that?  There's a very good chance that Randolph and White are worse or the same but even if the chance that they're better FOR WHAT THIS TEAM needs, aka rebounding, is tiny, why not at least give them a chance.  They're on the roster, they're signed for the year, why are they on the team if a crap player like Bass is going to play heavy minutes.  That's a huge failing by Doc and Ainge, no?
Bass is a rotation caliber player. He's not a starting level player who should be getting 30+ as de facto center which is what he's been put into with KG out. He really shouldn't be getting 30 minutes at PF either.

DJ White is barely a better rebounder than Bass and a much worse defender.

Randolph has gotten so few minutes the past few years I have no idea what he's capable of. The few stretches I've seen him this year he was pretty bad on the glass though. (Charlotte? Just got muscled around a lot)

Second game against Charlotte Randolph rebounded exremely well.  That's been the only game since their loss against OKC that they've outrebounded the opposition.  If there's a tiny chance that Randolph can rebound effectively for this team, it's worth it.  To have Bass stand in the way is just nonsense. 
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: Meadowlark_Scal on March 26, 2013, 09:38:02 PM
Thing here is..randy goes for rebounds, and gets them.think about it.the guy has been SITTING for 3 quarters..still comes in and is dogmatic....imagine if he was played with some team and coach support....like a REAL player....he can rebound and dunk......
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: NocturnalRebel on March 26, 2013, 09:38:48 PM
And Bass has been a non-factor for most of this game and Doc still has him on tha court.
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: Meadowlark_Scal on March 26, 2013, 09:39:11 PM
Randolph looking good. If you like rebounds.
Well..I think I do...! LOL..!
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: lightspeed5 on March 26, 2013, 09:39:25 PM
blow it up
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: The Rondo Show on March 26, 2013, 09:39:27 PM
Randolph looking good. If you like rebounds.

A what?

-Doc RIvers
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: CelticsFan9 on March 26, 2013, 09:39:30 PM
You know, as I'm slowly slipping into denial, I've developed a theory.

Boston is throwing away the regular season so that all the other teams think they're toast.  Think about it, NY probably relishes playing us now, as they think, "Wow, we've beaten them in their house two straight times!  They got nothing on us!"

Then, we'll go back in the time machine, and stun everyone and win the championship.  Book it.

Alright, it's probably time for me to go to bed.
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: Meadowlark_Scal on March 26, 2013, 09:40:01 PM
I actually like BOUNDS .AND REBOUNDS..!
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: MVPPierceNoJoke on March 26, 2013, 09:40:31 PM
Avery wowwwwwwww
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: Meadowlark_Scal on March 26, 2013, 09:41:10 PM
Randolph looking good. If you like rebounds.

A what?

-Doc RIvers

Doc.."We don't need to rebound, just get back on defense"...anyone give him an IQ test befroe he signed the deal...?
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: CelticsFan9 on March 26, 2013, 09:41:20 PM
Shav's dunk was totally better than LeBron's.
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: Chief on March 26, 2013, 09:41:39 PM
1. Why am i still watching?

2. Does Doc really think this team can comeback?

3. Do you think the Celtics will get eliminated in the 1st round?

1 You like to complain Post the truth
2 No
3 Yes in 7 4

Fixed it.
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: Meadowlark_Scal on March 26, 2013, 09:41:48 PM
In MY world...Rebounds ARE defense..!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: Galeto on March 26, 2013, 09:42:07 PM
There was a game in 2008 when they were getting blasted on the boards and trailing.  Up to that point, Powe had barely played at all.  Doc decided in the third quarter to give Powe a chance and he completely turned the board situation around by himself.  From that point on, Powe was a rotation regular and there's a good chance the Celtics wouldn't have won a championship without him being in the rotation in the Finals.  Just the simple fact that someone isn't in the rotation doesn't mean they can't play.  Doc not infallible. 

I can't even understand his mindset.  Isn't he frustrated with Bass too?  Is he trying to torture fans by keeping him out there minute after minute after minute?
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: Shamrocker on March 26, 2013, 09:42:21 PM
We all love AB. It's tough to see him struggle this mightily on offense. 
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: Meadowlark_Scal on March 26, 2013, 09:42:24 PM
1. Why am i still watching?

2. Does Doc really think this team can comeback?

3. Do you think the Celtics will get eliminated in the 1st round?

1 You like to complain Post the truth
2 No
3 Yes in 7 4

Fixed it.
funny..good one..!
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: timobusa on March 26, 2013, 09:42:31 PM
Shaq's dunk was totally better than LeBron's.

Shav's so dominant you thought he was Shaq!
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: NocturnalRebel on March 26, 2013, 09:42:39 PM
So how was everyone's day?
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: Meadowlark_Scal on March 26, 2013, 09:43:07 PM
There was a game in 2008 when they were getting blasted on the boards and trailing.  Up to that point, Powe had barely played at all.  Doc decided in the third quarter to give Powe a chance and he completely turned the board situation around by himself.  From that point on, Powe was a rotation regular and there's a good chance the Celtics wouldn't have won a championship without him being in the rotation in the Finals.  Just the simple fact that someone isn't in the rotation doesn't mean they can't play.  Doc not infallible. 

I can't even understand his mindset.  Isn't he frustrated with Bass too?  Is he trying to torture fans by keeping him out there minute after minute after minute?
..!
oh you sooo nailed it.....! TP
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: CelticsFan9 on March 26, 2013, 09:43:21 PM
Shaq's dunk was totally better than LeBron's.

Shav's so dominant you thought he was Shaq!

Yeah, I mean they are practically twins.   ;D
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: Chief on March 26, 2013, 09:45:05 PM
In MY world...Rebounds ARE defense..!!!!!!!!

I think we live in the same neighborhood.
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: Boston Garden Leprechaun on March 26, 2013, 09:45:19 PM
1. Why am i still watching?

2. Does Doc really think this team can comeback?

3. Do you think the Celtics will get eliminated in the 1st round?

1 You like to complain Post the truth
2 No
3 Yes in 7 4

Fixed it.

TP!!!!!!!!!!!!    8)
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: Lightskinsmurf on March 26, 2013, 09:45:41 PM
blow it up

Ha!
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: lightspeed5 on March 26, 2013, 09:45:48 PM
was avery exposed?
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: timobusa on March 26, 2013, 09:45:55 PM
Shaq's dunk was totally better than LeBron's.

Shav's so dominant you thought he was Shaq!

Yeah, I mean they are practically twins.   ;D

Haha, is it just me or does Shavs shorts looks like its gonna drop down any moment?
Get that tied tight.
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: timobusa on March 26, 2013, 09:46:49 PM
was avery exposed?

yeah, he can only defend guards that are 34 and younger.
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: Chief on March 26, 2013, 09:47:42 PM
1. Why am i still watching?

2. Does Doc really think this team can comeback?

3. Do you think the Celtics will get eliminated in the 1st round?

1 You like to complain Post the truth
2 No
3 Yes in 7 4

Fixed it.

TP!!!!!!!!!!!!    8)

Already gave you 1. :)
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: Galeto on March 26, 2013, 09:50:51 PM
One would think after losing game 7 in 2010 because they got pounded on the boards that Ainge and Doc would try to upgrade the rebounding capability of this team.  Instead, they might be even worse on the boards.  It's not the system.  This team is rebounding just like they're capable of, which is doubly frustrating.  Nice planning!
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: CelticsFan9 on March 26, 2013, 09:50:56 PM
Shaq's dunk was totally better than LeBron's.

Shav's so dominant you thought he was Shaq!

Yeah, I mean they are practically twins.   ;D

Haha, is it just me or does Shavs shorts looks like its gonna drop down any moment?
Get that tied tight.

You've got it all wrong, that's considered 'hip' in China.  Shav's bringin' that swag to the US!

My boy is trend-settin'!
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: ImShakHeIsShaq on March 26, 2013, 09:52:23 PM
Say what you want in defense of Doc but what exactly does Shav have to do to see playing time?????? WHAT????????


5 mins his line: 2pts, 4rbs, and a steal.



I can't with Doc anymore, I'm full!
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: timobusa on March 26, 2013, 09:53:02 PM
Shaq's dunk was totally better than LeBron's.

Shav's so dominant you thought he was Shaq!

Yeah, I mean they are practically twins.   ;D

Haha, is it just me or does Shavs shorts looks like its gonna drop down any moment?
Get that tied tight.

You've got it all wrong, that's considered 'hip' in China.  Shav's bringin' that swag to the US!

My boy is trend-settin'!

Hahaha! He has so much swag its saggin down his shorts!
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: Who on March 26, 2013, 09:53:28 PM
Fringe NBA players aren't our salvation. The sad truth is that Bass is a better player than both of them.

Sure doesn't look like it.
But its true. Bass is a nba rotation level player, Randolph/White couldn't even get a minimum contract at the start of the season.

The way Bass has been playing, he would not get a minimum contract either if he was a free agent. 

This isn't true. Bass is shooting around the same percentage as last year, rebounding the same, and overall playing a similar level of defense.

He's not shooting as much though, and that's a problem he has to provide scoring with his skillset.

There is no way to win against your argument.  Since Bass got a chance in the NBA and a contract, therefore he is automatically better. 

Do I think Randolph and White are saviors?  Of course not.  But are you really against even giving those two guys a chance when Bass is playing a scrub level?  They have nothing to lose except by more points.
There is no way to "win" against your argument either, as White/Randolph aren't going to suddenly be given 27 MPG to "prove" they're worse than Bass.

Backup big men are the backup QBs of Celticsblog. Even when they quit on the team.

Are you seriously saying Bass is a rotation quality player right now?  Are we arguing about that?  There's a very good chance that Randolph and White are worse or the same but even if the chance that they're better FOR WHAT THIS TEAM needs, aka rebounding, is tiny, why not at least give them a chance.  They're on the roster, they're signed for the year, why are they on the team if a crap player like Bass is going to play heavy minutes.  That's a huge failing by Doc and Ainge, no?

With Bass playing at this lower level (below his true ability), I think DJ White is about his equal. I still play Bass ahead of White due to his quicker feet defensively but it is close. I would like to see DJ White get some of Bass' playing time. Get Bass down to 20-24mpg and White up to 5-10mpg.

Not sure how much S.Randolph improved since his last tour in the NBA so hard to rate him. I did previously him rate him lower than DJ White and current Bass based on his previous post-injury NBA play though. But his stats in China and improved jumper make an interesting case that he has improved some since then. I doubt he has improved enough to overtake DJ White or B.Bass.
Title: Re: Knicks (42-26) at Celtics (36-33) 3/26
Post by: kozlodoev on March 26, 2013, 11:24:44 PM
DJ White is quite worthless... well, not worthless, but doesn't give you anything you don't already have.

Randolph, on the other hand, seems like the only big we have at this time who is able to get any rebounds. Time to play him.