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Celtics Basketball => Celtics Talk => Topic started by: timobusa on February 26, 2013, 02:35:06 PM
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** Burks, asked what it’s like to be playing against a star (Paul Pierce) having a great night: He’s nobody to me, you know? He made some shots. Everybody make shots, you know? It’s just he got a bigger name than everybody else.
I didn't even know who Alec Burks was and I watched the game last night.
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TP for putting Alec Burks' team and # in the title so we'll know who he is :D
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work on those cliches, kid.
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U MAD BRO?
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TP for putting Alec Burks' team and # in the title so we'll know who he is :D
I had to google him. I didn't even notice him in the game.
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Some Jazz fans are complimenting Burks for his comments, saying they show confidence and swagger.
I say it makes him look like an idiot who doesn't respect those who have come before him.
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Some Jazz fans are complimenting Burks for his comments, saying they show confidence and swagger.
I say it makes him look like an idiot who doesn't respect those who have come before him.
I agree. Real recognizes Real. Burks ain't Real. Haha
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I personally LOVE that kind of attitude from players.
I don't want young players (at least on my team) in awe of the stars they're playing against that they grew up watching and emulating. I want them to go out there, and act like going against another nobody at the park, and try to kill them.
I don't care who I am facing, they're nobody to me. I can take them. They're not better than me. I can beat anybody.
That's the kind of attitude I like.
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I personally LOVE that kind of attitude from players.
I don't want young players (at least on my team) in awe of the stars they're playing against that they grew up watching and emulating. I want them to go out there, and act like going against another nobody at the park, and try to kill them.
I don't care who I am facing, they're nobody to me. I can take them. They're not better than me. I can beat anybody.
That's the kind of attitude I like.
I agree with you on what type of attitude I would want my players to have, but there is no need to say it, especially following a loss. Now it just makes him look bad
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He didn't say he was a nobody, he said he was a nobody to him. There is a very big difference in those statements.
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I personally LOVE that kind of attitude from players.
I don't want young players (at least on my team) in awe of the stars they're playing against that they grew up watching and emulating. I want them to go out there, and act like going against another nobody at the park, and try to kill them.
I don't care who I am facing, they're nobody to me. I can take them. They're not better than me. I can beat anybody.
That's the kind of attitude I like.
I gotta say I like it too, though not when it's directed at our guys.
I saw an interview with Mark Jackson awhile back where he said (paraphrased) "When I came into the league I honestly thought I was better than Magic, Isiah, Stockton, and all the other great PGs. I was dead wrong and had absolutely no right to think it but it was a huge benefit for me because it gave me the confidence to succeed at what I was capable of."
Irrational overconfidence is a much better quality in young players than being down on themselves, provided they don't take it too far. Jason Terry's a classic example of someone whose overconfidence helped him excel.
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He didn't say he was a nobody, he said he was a nobody to him. There is a very big difference in those statements.
Plus the question asked of him was asked "what it’s like to be playing against a star (Paul Pierce) having a great night." Should it feel any different playing against a star vs a scrub? Obviously not the most tactful answer, but I'm not hating on it. Not like he went on twitter and just bashed Pierce, he was asked a question.
Dude's played 100 games, and 1600 minutes in the NBA. He's played against probably all the stars already. That's the kind of question you ask rookies in October/November.
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I don't have a problem with it. Pierce for years convinced himself he was the best player in the league. He probably still thinks that, actually. It's part of the reason he's able to still play as well as he does at his age. You have to have confidence when playing basketball. Even playing pick-up ball... if you're the type of guy who thinks every shot you take will be a miss... you'll find you miss a lot. If you think every shot you take will go in... you'll find you make a lot. There's no place for doubt in that sport.
I've personally found that the lower my self esteem.. the worse I happened to play basketball. When I felt amazing about myself, I dominated. There's definitely a mental aspect.
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Not really a big deal.
I'd rather there be a level of competition in the NBA instead of players on opposing teams treating each other to manicures and massages after the game.
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The next time that moron carries a team at the end of the game and into OT (like PP did)maybe he can let us all know here at CB. don't hold your breath though.
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Sounds almost as confident as pierce himself
you're taking it a little out of context...the kid doesn't care about pierce and nor should he he just wanted to win...don't have a problem
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Sounds almost as confident as pierce himself
you're taking it a little out of context...the kid doesn't care about pierce and nor should he he just wanted to win...don't have a problem
Yup, exactly. When you think about it, this is really no different then when Pierce yelled out "we ain't coming back to LA" to Lakers fans in game 2 of the 2010 finals.
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I like Burks. Young dude trying to prove himself and showing some signs of promise. It doesn't upset me that he's not starstruck. He played a pretty good game himself last night.
On another note, I saw that unsuccessful PP iso at the end of regulation coming from 2 miles away. I openly groaned and begged for a pass of any kind before 8 seconds. Watching that same play over and over is torture. He really bounced back and shut me up in OT though. Hell of an OT. That iso just has to go though.
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Sounds like the question kind of set him up for it. What was he suppose to say? "Oh wow it truly was amazing just getting torched by the great Paul Pierce."
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Some Jazz fans are complimenting Burks for his comments, saying they show confidence and swagger.
I say it makes him look like an idiot who doesn't respect those who have come before him.
This.
Hey Alec -
He's The Truth.
You mad? ;D
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Not a big deal. Paul Pierce isn't a big name to non-sports fans to be honest. I'm sure non-sports fans know Kobe (duh), LeBron (duh), Ray Allen (duh), KG (duh), but Pierce is relatively unknown to many young bloods
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Not a big deal. Paul Pierce isn't a big name to non-sports fans to be honest. I'm sure non-sports fans know Kobe (duh), LeBron (duh), Ray Allen (duh), KG (duh), but Pierce is relatively unknown to many young bloods
That was kind of unrelated to what Harris said tho
How could you watch the game yesterday and not know Burks lolz
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Not a big deal. Paul Pierce isn't a big name to non-sports fans to be honest. I'm sure non-sports fans know Kobe (duh), LeBron (duh), Ray Allen (duh), KG (duh), but Pierce is relatively unknown to many young bloods
Why on earth would you think Ray Allen would be as well known as Pierce?
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Not a big deal. Paul Pierce isn't a big name to non-sports fans to be honest. I'm sure non-sports fans know Kobe (duh), LeBron (duh), Ray Allen (duh), KG (duh), but Pierce is relatively unknown to many young bloods
Before I got into basketball I knew who pierce was. Had no idea who ray allen was or KG for that matter.
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What's very ironic about this statement is that Burks says Pierce is a "nobody" to him, while in reality Burks surely does know who Pierce is. On the flip side, Burks may actually be the nobody to Pierce in the sense where Pierce may have no idea who Alec Burks is.
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I don't care that he said it, good for him really. Shouldn't be looking up to the opposition.
But the thread title is just PERFECT and sums it up. LOL.
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I'm not defending what Burks said, but he did make the game-tying basket to send it into OT.
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Only reason I know who he is was because my player on NBA 2k13 got drafted by the Jazz and Burks refused to pass me the ball. I demanded a trade.
EDIT: 2k12
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Well that's awkward, I didn't know who Pierce was for a while.
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Well that's awkward, I didn't know who Pierce was for a while.
He was kind of a big deal in the early 2000's from what I remember. Are you a new fan?
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The title to this thread is letter perfect. :)
He should make that his catch phrase.
In a few years he can be saying "Yi Jianlian, He’s nobody to me, you know? He made some shots. Everybody make shots, you know? It’s just he got a bigger name than everybody else."
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Considering that Pierce just made three very difficult shots to dispatch his team in OT, Burks could have gone with "Pierce has been a great player in this league for a long time. I work hard every day to be able to close out games like that some day."
Instead he went with the "nobody" route. Ironic coming from an NBA nobody whose team just got schooled by a Hall of Famer on their own court.
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Honestly, who cares? When Iverson was a rookie, no less, he had the following dialogue with Jordan:
"He sure has some confidence," said Jordan, who led the Bulls with 31 points. "At one point, I mentioned to him that he was going to have to respect us. If you don't respect anybody else in this league, you have to respect us. He said he doesn't have to respect anybody."
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Well that's awkward, I didn't know who Pierce was for a while.
He was kind of a big deal in the early 2000's from what I remember. Are you a new fan?
I'm in my mid-teens, so yes, very new. Only started watching during 2010 playoffs vs. Heat, and the rest is history!
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Well that's awkward, I didn't know who Pierce was for a while.
He was kind of a big deal in the early 2000's from what I remember. Are you a new fan?
I'm in my mid-teens, so yes, very new. Only started watching during 2010 playoffs vs. Heat, and the rest is history!
Lol. You're making me feel old, and I'm not even that old yet... Haha.
Remind me to not take your comments seriously next time. Young Blood. haha
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"When all is said and done, more is said than done."
It sounds like Burks said more than he actually did. And I still, after watching the game and reading three pages of comments, don't know who he is.
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a nobody calling a 10 time all star and finals MVP a nobody. lol
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"When all is said and done, more is said than done."
It sounds like Burks said more than he actually did. And I still, after watching the game and reading three pages of comments, don't know who he is.
Well, you obviously weren't watching the end of the fourth quarter, when he hit the game-tying shot?
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Paul Pierce is a God of basketball, top 5 SF of all time, believe it
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What Burks said was a bit on the disrespectful side to the Truth, but to look at it from another perspective, this is a young kid trying to establish a name and place for himself in this league. Also Burks was trying to answer a somewhat silly question after a tough loss at home..worse things have been said in similar circumstances. If I’m in that locker room I would have more of a problem with Big Al, a couple of lockers down from Burks, practically admitting his man crush on Pierce. Burks is not a bad player and was a decent character kid in college, he will find a way to play (off of someone’s bench) for a number of years in this league, he is athletic, can shoot the three and has an above average iq. Let’s not forget that incredible layup he converted off the broken play (pass that Hayward shoveled to him, after he made a great cut as Bradley got momentarily distracted watching the play). Also ask Doc if he believes Burks is a nobody…if so why was Bradley defending him? Say what you will about Doc but since the Atlanta debacle (Korver torching Pierce in the 3rd period) he has assigned Bradley to shutdown any opposing wing threats.
The problem with the younger generation of players respecting The Truth’s place among the game’s greats is that his game is for the most part not all of that attractive outside New England residents and Celtic fans. Among his contemporaries (i.e. Bryant, James, McGrady, Wade, Carter, Anthony, Durant etc.) The Truth’s game is the least emulated by younger generations on the playground. In the 40 and over leagues its probably the exact opposite, but the reason is Pierce does more with seemingly less physical tools than any of the notable wings of his generation. Young kids (like Burks) don’t see the footwork that allows Pierce to get create separation to get his shot off, the subtle head and ball fake to get a defender off his feet, the court vision and patience to wait until a player gets to ‘his spot’ to receive a pass, or the brute strength and will to drive pass a stronger defender and convert a layup.
It’s a how high can you jump, how fast can you run type of generation and The Truth unfortunately doesn’t always translate to good tv for many…I happen to disagree big time of course.
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A top notch trash talk quote in a bottom notch scenario.
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I think it is the same attitude that Kendrick Perkins took after getting "posterized" by Blake Griffin. When asked about it, Perk said (http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/01/31/kendrick-perkins-on-blake-griffin-dunk-it-happens/), "It happens...you're going to get dunked on." Burks is saying that players make shots and you're going to get scored on sometimes, so he's not going to treat Pierce as anything special when he goes off on a given night.
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What Burks said was a bit on the disrespectful side to the Truth, but to look at it from another perspective, this is a young kid trying to establish a name and place for himself in this league. Also Burks was trying to answer a somewhat silly question after a tough loss at home..worse things have been said in similar circumstances. If I’m in that locker room I would have more of a problem with Big Al, a couple of lockers down from Burks, practically admitting his man crush on Pierce. Burks is not a bad player and was a decent character kid in college, he will find a way to play (off of someone’s bench) for a number of years in this league, he is athletic, can shoot the three and has an above average iq. Let’s not forget that incredible layup he converted off the broken play (pass that Hayward shoveled to him, after he made a great cut as Bradley got momentarily distracted watching the play). Also ask Doc if he believes Burks is a nobody…if so why was Bradley defending him? Say what you will about Doc but since the Atlanta debacle (Korver torching Pierce in the 3rd period) he has assigned Bradley to shutdown any opposing wing threats.
The problem with the younger generation of players respecting The Truth’s place among the game’s greats is that his game is for the most part not all of that attractive outside New England residents and Celtic fans. Among his contemporaries (i.e. Bryant, James, McGrady, Wade, Carter, Anthony, Durant etc.) The Truth’s game is the least emulated by younger generations on the playground. In the 40 and over leagues its probably the exact opposite, but the reason is Pierce does more with seemingly less physical tools than any of the notable wings of his generation. Young kids (like Burks) don’t see the footwork that allows Pierce to get create separation to get his shot off, the subtle head and ball fake to get a defender off his feet, the court vision and patience to wait until a player gets to ‘his spot’ to receive a pass, or the brute strength and will to drive pass a stronger defender and convert a layup.
It’s a how high can you jump, how fast can you run type of generation and The Truth unfortunately doesn’t always translate to good tv for many…I happen to disagree big time of course.
Very nicely worded. TP
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"When all is said and done, more is said than done."
It sounds like Burks said more than he actually did. And I still, after watching the game and reading three pages of comments, don't know who he is.
Well, you obviously weren't watching the end of the fourth quarter, when he hit the game-tying shot?
I guess not...I will blame the chat room, passing the buck along..... 8)
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I like confidence and brashness in a young player, and that kid from the Jazz has a right to speak his mind.
He's definitely assured himself a place on my "bleep" list with those comments, though. That is, if he ever has enough of a career to warrant me thinking about him at all.
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Al Jefferson should have slapped him around for saying that...
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Al Jefferson should have slapped him around for saying that...
I think that Al was praising Pierce too much.
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Loser.
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Loser.
yea, not really sure why this is a story.
annnd Alec Burkes is who exactly?
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Evidently, he is a player for the Jazz who made a shot.
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Loser.
yea, not really sure why this is a story.
annnd Alec Burkes is who exactly?
A loser.
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Some Jazz fans are complimenting Burks for his comments, saying they show confidence and swagger.
I say it makes him look like an idiot who doesn't respect those who have come before him.
LOL. PP owned the Jazz in the 4th/OT. I think its sour grapes from a player who doesn't want to admit greatness even when he sees it used to devastating effect against his team.
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Not a big deal. Paul Pierce isn't a big name to non-sports fans to be honest. I'm sure non-sports fans know Kobe (duh), LeBron (duh), Ray Allen (duh), KG (duh), but Pierce is relatively unknown to many young bloods
Before I got into basketball I knew who pierce was. Had no idea who ray allen was or KG for that matter.
(http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n114/TIGERRADIATION/images_zps1389042d.jpg)
you had heard of PP but not KG? wow. I had heard of KG just by seeing SI.
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http://jazzfanatical.wordpress.com/2013/02/26/game-57-jazz-vs-celtics-well-at-least-half-the-arena-went-home-happy/ (http://jazzfanatical.wordpress.com/2013/02/26/game-57-jazz-vs-celtics-well-at-least-half-the-arena-went-home-happy/)
** Burks, asked what it’s like to be playing against a star (Paul Pierce) having a great night: He’s nobody to me, you know? He made some shots. Everybody make shots, you know? It’s just he got a bigger name than everybody else.
I didn't even know who Alec Burks was and I watched the game last night.
hey op you should work for the media.
I hardly see what he said (all what he said) as disrespect.
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Some Jazz fans are complimenting Burks for his comments, saying they show confidence and swagger.
Hold on, people in Utah know what the word swagger means?
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http://jazzfanatical.wordpress.com/2013/02/26/game-57-jazz-vs-celtics-well-at-least-half-the-arena-went-home-happy/ (http://jazzfanatical.wordpress.com/2013/02/26/game-57-jazz-vs-celtics-well-at-least-half-the-arena-went-home-happy/)
** Burks, asked what it’s like to be playing against a star (Paul Pierce) having a great night: He’s nobody to me, you know? He made some shots. Everybody make shots, you know? It’s just he got a bigger name than everybody else.
I didn't even know who Alec Burks was and I watched the game last night.
hey op you should work for the media.
I hardly see what he said (all what he said) as disrespect.
Nah, I'd rather not.
I was not instigating anything with this post.
I saw his quote and I thought it was topic worthy.
And Celtic news.
A good conversation starter.
Hence you are here and having we're having a conversation about it.
Why don't YOU work for the media?
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Al Jefferson should have slapped him around for saying that...
I think that Al was praising Pierce too much.
Al Jefferson gave Jeff Green a fist bump after he dunked on his head and put him on a highlight reel/poster for all time. So yeah.
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Not a big deal. Paul Pierce isn't a big name to non-sports fans to be honest. I'm sure non-sports fans know Kobe (duh), LeBron (duh), Ray Allen (duh), KG (duh), but Pierce is relatively unknown to many young bloods
Before I got into basketball I knew who pierce was. Had no idea who ray allen was or KG for that matter.
(http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n114/TIGERRADIATION/images_zps1389042d.jpg)
you had heard of PP but not KG? wow. I had heard of KG just by seeing SI.
Key words "BEFORE I GOT INTO BASKETBALL" keep that in mind. Only reason I heard of pierce is because I saw people with paul pierce jerseys on alot. Never saw a garnett jersey.
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Where others see confidence, I see insecurity. I think confident players can acknowledge the greatness of others, even if they think they're on the same level.
I mean, where did Paul get his "Truth" nickname? From Shaquille O'Neal, a top-10 player all-time. Shaq wasn't too insecure to acknowledge Pierce's greatness.
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Al Jefferson should have slapped him around for saying that...
I think that Al was praising Pierce too much.
Al Jefferson gave Jeff Green a fist bump after he dunked on his head and put him on a highlight reel/poster for all time. So yeah.
Class!
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For half the game I thought Gorman was saying brooks. Had no idea who he was and still don't.