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CelticsStrong => Comments & Remarks => Topic started by: wdleehi on February 24, 2013, 05:26:18 PM

Title: Time to give the Perk-Green trade talk a break.
Post by: wdleehi on February 24, 2013, 05:26:18 PM
Do we really need to rehash this every time someone has a good or bad stretch?




Is there really anything new to say?



Has anyone involved in this changed their opinion?   


No. 


Instead we hear the same pointless bickering over and over from the same posters again and again (and yes, I get sucked in more then I want to be)





Give it a break.  (not a mod order, just frustrated at looking at the level of "I told you so" and "you lack understanding of basketball" comments.  The "stats" and "beyond stats" argument)

No one is going to change their mind.  No one is going to come up with a new proof. 



Just let it go. 




(now the mod warning.  Do not make a single argument for the trade vs. against the trade on here.  I will delete it.  And any comment I see that I take as a personal attack on anyone will be treated as a post warning attack)
Title: Re: Time to give the Perk-Green trade talk a break.
Post by: fairweatherfan on February 24, 2013, 05:35:35 PM
(now the mod warning.  Do not make a single argument for the trade vs. against the trade on here.  I will delete it.  And any comment I see that I take as a personal attack on anyone will be treated as a post warning attack)

If we can't talk about the trade, I guess the purpose of this thread is to discuss whether the other threads are constructive or not? 

I'd say that rehashing the trade gets annoying sometimes, but when we find topics irritating or repetitive, we're all free to avoid them.  I don't like silly trade proposal threads, so I usually don't even look at them.  Doesn't have to be any different here, especially since it seems to be confined to one thread right now. 

I'd also add that a lot of posters don't spend as much time here as you or I, so what seems like the same recycled arguments to us may be fresh conversation topics for them.
Title: Re: Time to give the Perk-Green trade talk a break.
Post by: CelticConcourse on February 24, 2013, 05:38:25 PM
Keep it in one thread. No need to make thirty threads about the same topic.
Title: Re: Time to give the Perk-Green trade talk a break.
Post by: wdleehi on February 24, 2013, 05:38:30 PM
(now the mod warning.  Do not make a single argument for the trade vs. against the trade on here.  I will delete it.  And any comment I see that I take as a personal attack on anyone will be treated as a post warning attack)

If we can't talk about the trade, I guess the purpose of this thread is to discuss whether the other threads are constructive or not? 

I'd say that talk of the trade gets annoying sometimes, but when we find topics irritating or repetitive, we're all free to avoid them.  I don't like silly trade proposal threads, so I usually don't even look at them.  Doesn't have to be any different here, especially since it seems to be confined to one thread right now. 

I'd also add that a lot of posters don't spend as much time here as you or I, so what seems like the same recycled arguments to us may be fresh conversation topics for them.


If it was new posters all the time, I would agree with the last part, but it's not.  It is the same posters that get sucked in time after time. 


And I didn't say this was a rule or site issue.  It is just a repetitive annoyance around here that I am venting about in a hopefully constructive way without interrupting that actual discussion. 
Title: Re: Time to give the Perk-Green trade talk a break.
Post by: dark_lord on February 25, 2013, 05:24:43 PM
my two cents....

it is an interesting discussion and one that played/plays a big change in dynamic of the franchise, both when it happened and the future. 

censorship is not the solution.  make one designated thread about that topic. if people dont follow the rules of the blog in that thread, do what mods do. 

my two cents
Title: Re: Time to give the Perk-Green trade talk a break.
Post by: wdleehi on February 25, 2013, 05:40:27 PM
my two cents....

it is an interesting discussion and one that played/plays a big change in dynamic of the franchise, both when it happened and the future. 

censorship is not the solution.  make one designated thread about that topic. if people dont follow the rules of the blog in that thread, do what mods do. 

my two cents


Please show me at any point where censorship came in? 


Did I shut down those threads?  Did I go on there and change the topic?  Did I troll those threads? 


Please do not get on the "censorship" horse with me and try to derail this thread.
Title: Re: Time to give the Perk-Green trade talk a break.
Post by: dark_lord on February 25, 2013, 05:43:40 PM
my two cents....

it is an interesting discussion and one that played/plays a big change in dynamic of the franchise, both when it happened and the future. 

censorship is not the solution.  make one designated thread about that topic. if people dont follow the rules of the blog in that thread, do what mods do. 

my two cents


Please show me at any point where censorship came in? 


Did I shut down those threads?  Did I go on there and change the topic?  Did I troll those threads? 


Please do not get on the "censorship" horse with me and try to derail this thread.

maybe i am misinterpreting it then.  i was under the assumption you wanted to stop all green/perkins trade talk.

im not "trying to derail" the thread, was just giving my opinion that having one green/perk trade thread would probably be the best solution instead of encouraging people not to discuss it.

was just providing a possible solution to appease ur frustrations and thos that would want to discuss/read about the trade
Title: Re: Time to give the Perk-Green trade talk a break.
Post by: jdz101 on March 04, 2013, 10:49:02 PM
(now the mod warning.  Do not make a single argument for the trade vs. against the trade on here.  I will delete it.  And any comment I see that I take as a personal attack on anyone will be treated as a post warning attack)

If we can't talk about the trade, I guess the purpose of this thread is to discuss whether the other threads are constructive or not? 

I'd say that talk of the trade gets annoying sometimes, but when we find topics irritating or repetitive, we're all free to avoid them.  I don't like silly trade proposal threads, so I usually don't even look at them.  Doesn't have to be any different here, especially since it seems to be confined to one thread right now. 

I'd also add that a lot of posters don't spend as much time here as you or I, so what seems like the same recycled arguments to us may be fresh conversation topics for them.


If it was new posters all the time, I would agree with the last part, but it's not.  It is the same posters that get sucked in time after time. 


And I didn't say this was a rule or site issue.  It is just a repetitive annoyance around here that I am venting about in a hopefully constructive way without interrupting that actual discussion.

I've gotten to the point now where I've given up because I don't think there should even be an argument any more.

I'll leave it there.
Title: Re: Time to give the Perk-Green trade talk a break.
Post by: Boris Badenov on March 04, 2013, 11:27:32 PM
OK, so now we are now arguing about whether we can argue about something. This has reached a whole new level.

For my part, I don't mind it if people want to keep arguing about the same thing. What annoys me is when someone hijacks a completely unrelated thread by inserting a random Perk/Green trade reference that sends everyone off.

But as long as people don't do that and instead confine their bickering to the right places, they can have at it. I mean, if we limited over-reactions to a few good/bad games by Celtic (or former Celtic) players here, about 80% of threads about players (and the team overall) would disappear. This place is like a Master's seminar in bipolar disorder.
Title: Re: Time to give the Perk-Green trade talk a break.
Post by: CelticConcourse on March 04, 2013, 11:40:04 PM
This place is like a Master's seminar in bipolar disorder.

I love your posts  :-[
Title: Re: Time to give the Perk-Green trade talk a break.
Post by: ItStaysYang on March 05, 2013, 12:03:21 AM
Then for what purpose did you make this thread? Purely for attention?
Title: Re: Time to give the Perk-Green trade talk a break.
Post by: 1dude on March 05, 2013, 12:20:25 AM
I love the perk-green trade!


LOL
Title: Re: Time to give the Perk-Green trade talk a break.
Post by: LarBrd33 on March 05, 2013, 12:20:45 AM
that trade would have been a home-freakin-run had Shaq stayed healthy. 
Title: Re: Time to give the Perk-Green trade talk a break.
Post by: guava_wrench on March 05, 2013, 12:48:51 AM
One good way to get people to not talk about something is to not start a thread about it.
Title: Can we end the talk about no longer discussing the Perk-Green trade?
Post by: guava_wrench on March 05, 2013, 12:53:40 AM
 ;D
Title: Re: Can we end the talk about no longer discussing the Perk-Green trade?
Post by: jdz101 on March 05, 2013, 01:23:12 AM
Man, you know better than to discuss the discussion about the lack of perk trade discussion.
Title: Re: Time to give the Perk-Green trade talk a break.
Post by: jojowhite10 on March 05, 2013, 01:56:03 AM
I don't understand why my friends all seem to think of elephants when I'm screaming "ELEPHANT! ELEPHANT!" over there in the corner of the room.
Title: Re: Time to give the Perk-Green trade talk a break.
Post by: Roy H. on March 05, 2013, 02:02:56 AM
I don't understand why my friends all seem to think of elephants when I'm screaming "ELEPHANT! ELEPHANT!" over there in the corner of the room.

that trade would have been a home-freakin-run had Shaq stayed healthy. 

At the time this thread was started, there was another Perk / Green thread that was active and generating discussion.
Title: Re: Time to give the Perk-Green trade talk a break.
Post by: CelticConcourse on March 05, 2013, 04:21:42 PM
Arguing about whether we can argue about arguing something too much! Harharhar!
Title: Re: Time to give the Perk-Green trade talk a break.
Post by: Vermont Green on March 05, 2013, 04:56:57 PM
Maybe what should be done is to combine the two topics that have the most dissention and resiliency; somehow splice together a tread about Rondo with the Perk-Green Trade topic.  Kind of like the Jeopardy before and after category:

Rondo is can't shoot...shoot we never should have traded Perk.

OK, maybe this wasn't such a good idea after all.

Title: Re: Time to give the Perk-Green trade talk a break.
Post by: ScottHow on March 05, 2013, 05:12:04 PM
I find that not many people ever change their opinion based on another persons stance. So if you are annoyed with that you'd have to close just about every thread
Title: Re: Time to give the Perk-Green trade talk a break.
Post by: CelticConcourse on March 05, 2013, 05:15:09 PM
I find that not many people ever change their opinion based on another persons stance. So if you are annoyed with that you'd have to close just about every thread

"not many people" -- debatable.

Good arguments sway my mind usually. But, most people can't make convincing arguments.
Title: Re: Time to give the Perk-Green trade talk a break.
Post by: BballTim on March 05, 2013, 05:41:04 PM
Good arguments sway my mind usually. But, most people can't make convincing arguments.

  This should be the slogan for the forums.
Title: Re: Time to give the Perk-Green trade talk a break.
Post by: Prof. Clutch on March 05, 2013, 06:18:42 PM
In the spirit of discussing unnecessary threads, I think this very thread fits that mold perfectly.  CB has always taken the "if you don't like it, go somewhere else" stance with its posters, that seems like a good attitude to take in regards to any thread you're not interested in.  If it harms no one and doesn't break the site rules, then ignore it and find a different thread that interests you.  As others have already pointed out in this thread, creating a new thread about a topic you don't want people to discuss probably isn't the most effective method for making it go away.  No offense.
Title: Re: Time to give the Perk-Green trade talk a break.
Post by: dark_lord on March 05, 2013, 07:34:50 PM
In the spirit of discussing unnecessary threads, I think this very thread fits that mold perfectly.  CB has always taken the "if you don't like it, go somewhere else" stance with its posters, that seems like a good attitude to take in regards to any thread you're not interested in.  If it harms no one and doesn't break the site rules, then ignore it and find a different thread that interests you.  As others have already pointed out in this thread, creating a new thread about a topic you don't want people to discuss probably isn't the most effective method for making it go away.  No offense.

tp