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Celtics Basketball => Celtics Talk => Topic started by: Vermont Green on February 23, 2013, 07:50:32 PM

Title: Hassan Whiteside Anyone?
Post by: Vermont Green on February 23, 2013, 07:50:32 PM
I saw his name come up in a thread on Warrick.  Sac drafted him early in the second round in 2010 and he signed a $3.8M contract only to get waived after almost 2 seasons and something like 20 games.  He played 1 season at Marshall.  His Dad was a NFL football player.

He appears to be inconsistent in the NBDL at best.  Seems like an intersting project but not sure we have room on the roster for a project with two key injuries and our own project (Melo).
Title: Re: Hassan Whiteside Anyone?
Post by: Eja117 on February 23, 2013, 08:02:06 PM
No thank you. I already ate
Title: Re: Hassan Whiteside Anyone?
Post by: danglertx on February 23, 2013, 08:06:19 PM
Statistically he is far and away the best big man in the D-League and it isn't even close.
Title: Re: Hassan Whiteside Anyone?
Post by: fitzhickey on February 23, 2013, 08:11:11 PM
I wouldn't mind a ten day, and then evaluate what he can do
Title: Re: Hassan Whiteside Anyone?
Post by: danglertx on February 23, 2013, 08:13:13 PM
I wouldn't mind a ten day, and then evaluate what he can do

No reason not to try him on a 10 day.

If you go through the d-league stats on per48, there is nobody else close to giving what he gives in blocks/rebounds/but even more so if you throw in fg%.  That Ohlebrecht guy at least shows up in the top 50 of blocks and rebounds per and shoots a slightly better fg% but apparently he already turned us down.

For comparison, Jerome Jordan seems to be a guy some people like, let us compare.

Jordan blks per48 3.98, reb per48 12.5, fg% .585.  NBDL lists him as the #2 prospect behind Mack.  Not bad.

Whiteside blks per48 7.54, reb per48 23.7, fg% .592.  He is not listed on the top 10 prospect list.   
Title: Re: Hassan Whiteside Anyone?
Post by: danglertx on February 27, 2013, 10:56:32 AM
I don't want to beat a dead horse here but, he played 13 minutes last game, had 7 rebs and 2 blocked shots.  People who know about the game say two things that translate from college, and I'd have to imagine the D-League as well, are defense and rebounding.

If we are looking for a 7ft guy who can block shots and rebound, he certainly seems capable, at least in limited minutes which is what we need.

Give him a shot!
Title: Re: Hassan Whiteside Anyone?
Post by: Birdman on February 27, 2013, 10:58:34 AM
He is too tall for Danny..got to be 6-9 or under
Title: Re: Hassan Whiteside Anyone?
Post by: clover on February 27, 2013, 11:14:33 AM
He is too tall for Danny..got to be 6-9 or under

Ha ha--unless he's injured, then he can be taller.
Title: Re: Hassan Whiteside Anyone?
Post by: Nowee on February 27, 2013, 11:18:52 AM
I like him! A 10 day contract wouldn't hurt!
Title: Re: Hassan Whiteside Anyone?
Post by: Snakehead on February 27, 2013, 11:22:15 AM
Not sure he is even a rebounder, but I'd like to give someone who might be able to protect the rim a shot.
Title: Re: Hassan Whiteside Anyone?
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on February 27, 2013, 11:25:49 AM
At this point any big man should be worth a shot as long as it's a 10 day at first.

Haven't seen him since SacTo, which is not a lot. But I know he's a legitimate 7-footer, so at worst he could atleast bother layups.

Sure, 10 day sounds about right for the start.
Title: Re: Hassan Whiteside Anyone?
Post by: clover on February 27, 2013, 11:49:11 AM
I take it Danny will wait another two days to see if anyone better gets dropped from a team--then he likely will dip into the d-league for a pure center.
Title: Re: Hassan Whiteside Anyone?
Post by: Vermont Green on February 27, 2013, 12:36:32 PM
He appears to be competing with Tim Ohlbrecht (the guy who turned down the 10 day contract from the Celtics) for minutes at center.  Ohlbrecht seems to be the starter, that is why Whiteside only played 13 minutes last game.

The game before last, it appears that Ohlbrecht got into foul trouble and Whiteside got 29 minutes.  All he did was get 13 pts, 15 Rebs, and 4 Blks.

So I guess both the Rio Grande Valley Vipers' Coach and Danny Ainge both like Ohlbrecht much better than Whiteside.

Whiteside must be like Melo, potential galore but just not quite ready for prime time.
Title: Re: Hassan Whiteside Anyone?
Post by: Fred Roberts on February 27, 2013, 12:47:32 PM
Danny is making this decision by Friday right ... given the deadline for adding playoff eligible players?
Title: Re: Hassan Whiteside Anyone?
Post by: clover on February 27, 2013, 12:52:25 PM
Danny is making this decision by Friday right ... given the deadline for adding playoff eligible players?

No, that's a misunderstood deadline.  Players have to be dropped from their old team by the 1st in order to be eligible for another team's playoff roster, but they don't have to be signed by the first.
Title: Re: Hassan Whiteside Anyone?
Post by: LooseCannon on February 27, 2013, 12:53:07 PM
Danny is making this decision by Friday right ... given the deadline for adding playoff eligible players?

The March 1 deadline is for players on a team in the NBA to be waived so they can be eligible for the playoffs if they sign with another team.
Title: Re: Hassan Whiteside Anyone?
Post by: kozlodoev on February 27, 2013, 01:02:42 PM
So I guess both the Rio Grande Valley Vipers' Coach and Danny Ainge both like Ohlbrecht much better than Whiteside.
Well, Ohlbrecht has Whiteside's skills and size, and then  some (e.g., shooting ability). Hard to blame Ainge there.
Title: Re: Hassan Whiteside Anyone?
Post by: erisred on February 27, 2013, 02:43:24 PM
Whiteside was Melo like raw when he was drafted, but that was 3 years ago. He should be much further along in his development by now. What's holding him back?
Title: Re: Hassan Whiteside Anyone?
Post by: kozlodoev on February 27, 2013, 05:10:04 PM
Whiteside was Melo like raw when he was drafted, but that was 3 years ago. He should be much further along in his development by now. What's holding him back?
Why does everyone assume that development is pretty much automatic as time goes by?

Some players just don't pan out, regardless of what you think their "ceiling" might be, or how many minutes they're fed.
Title: Re: Hassan Whiteside Anyone?
Post by: danglertx on February 27, 2013, 06:56:01 PM
So I guess both the Rio Grande Valley Vipers' Coach and Danny Ainge both like Ohlbrecht much better than Whiteside.
Well, Ohlbrecht has Whiteside's skills and size, and then  some (e.g., shooting ability). Hard to blame Ainge there.

Olbrecht has more of an offensive game but he isn't in Whiteside's league defensively.  Olbrecht is at 3 blks per 48 minutes.  Whiteside is at 7.5.  Olbrecht pulls down 13rebs per 48.  Whiteside pulls down almost 24.

Whiteside is 7' with long arms that give him a 7'7" wingspan and super athletic.  Olbrecht is 6'11" and not so much.

Olbrecht shoots .602 fg% and Whiteside .592.  That puts them at 4th and 6th respectively in the D-League.

Olbrecht has already signed with the Rockets and seems to have had an agreement that he would do so all along so whether he is better to sign than Whiteside is kind of a mute point.

One more possible guy from the D-League, or at least one of the most interesting is Will Foster from Soiux Falls.  The important thing to know about him is that he is 7'5".  He doesn't block shots or rebound as well as Whiteside...or shoot free throws, but he is really tall.