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Title: Free Agent Big Men / Possible buyouts
Post by: rondohondo on February 21, 2013, 05:15:47 PM
Kenyon Martin
 Lou Amundson
Darko
Dampier
Troy Murphy
Jermaine O'Neal ( buyout)
Ben Wallace   
Greg Oden ( out for the year)
Chris Kaman (buyout)
Elton Brand ( buyout)

Who am I missing ?
Title: Re: Free Agent Big Men / Possible buyouts
Post by: CelticConcourse on February 21, 2013, 05:17:23 PM
You are missing Hamed "perpetual beast mode" Haddadi
Title: Re: Free Agent Big Men / Possible buyouts
Post by: barefacedmonk on February 21, 2013, 05:19:56 PM
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Knicks have agreed to sign veteran forward Kenyon Martin to a 10-day contract, a source told Yahoo! Sports.

- Marc Spears on Twitter
Title: Re: Free Agent Big Men / Possible buyouts
Post by: Eddie20 on February 21, 2013, 05:24:54 PM
Kenyon Martin
 Lou Amundson
Darko
Dampier
Troy Murphy
Jermaine O'Neal ( buyout)
Ben Wallace    (buyout)
Greg Oden ( out for the year)
Chris Kaman (buyout)
Elton Brand ( buyout)

Who am I missing ?

He's not on a team
Title: Re: Free Agent Big Men / Possible buyouts
Post by: crownontherocks on February 21, 2013, 05:25:55 PM
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Knicks have agreed to sign veteran forward Kenyon Martin to a 10-day contract, a source told Yahoo! Sports.

- Marc Spears on Twitter

Thats what happens when you wait wayyy to long
Title: Re: Free Agent Big Men / Possible buyouts
Post by: kgfor3 on February 21, 2013, 05:26:04 PM
How about Samardo Samuels?
Title: Re: Free Agent Big Men / Possible buyouts
Post by: crownontherocks on February 21, 2013, 05:27:55 PM
We have 2 spots left?
Title: Re: Free Agent Big Men / Possible buyouts
Post by: ImShakHeIsShaq on February 21, 2013, 05:32:27 PM
We have 2 spots left?

Yep. We had 2 b4 TWill, 1 with him... now we just did a 2 for 1 trade... 2 spots left.
Title: Re: Free Agent Big Men / Possible buyouts
Post by: LooseCannon on February 21, 2013, 05:42:08 PM
D-League options include:
Henry Sims
Brian Butch
Luke Harangody
Mickel Gladness
James Mays
Chris Wright
DaJuan Summers
Jerome Jordan

Some of those guys will be better than a washed-up veteran.
Title: Re: Free Agent Big Men / Possible buyouts
Post by: Spicoli on February 21, 2013, 05:56:48 PM
Kenyon Martin
 Lou Amundson
Darko
Dampier
Troy Murphy
Jermaine O'Neal ( buyout)
Ben Wallace   
Greg Oden ( out for the year)
Chris Kaman (buyout)
Elton Brand ( buyout)

Who am I missing ?

No Dalembert as a potential buyout candidate? He or Kaman are really the only ones i'd consider signing.
Title: Re: Free Agent Big Men / Possible buyouts
Post by: LooseCannon on February 21, 2013, 06:01:44 PM
The Bucks aren't buying out Dalembert while they have legitimate playoff hopes.
Title: Re: Free Agent Big Men / Possible buyouts
Post by: Lucky17 on February 21, 2013, 06:03:28 PM
The Bucks aren't buying out Dalembert while they have legitimate playoff hopes.

QFT. If the Bucks had dealt him at the deadline for a major player, it might have happened. Thought it would come to pass, but no.
Title: Re: Free Agent Big Men / Possible buyouts
Post by: BudweiserCeltic on February 21, 2013, 06:05:56 PM
From the current crop, Lou Amundson has my interest for one of the spots. Let's infuse our team with speed.
Title: Re: Free Agent Big Men / Possible buyouts
Post by: Chief Macho on February 21, 2013, 06:07:04 PM
Scal?  Could be worse.
Title: Re: Free Agent Big Men / Possible buyouts
Post by: barefacedmonk on February 21, 2013, 06:07:16 PM
From the current crop, Lou Amundson has my interest for one of the spots. Let's infuse our team with speed.

Pat Riley seems very interested in signing him.
Title: Re: Free Agent Big Men / Possible buyouts
Post by: greenhead85 on February 21, 2013, 06:09:45 PM
Elton Brand is the best player available in that group. Rebounder, shot blocker and very good mid range jumper and can even finish strong on the break. He's got mental and physical toughness too. Take him Danny if he's bought out.
Title: Re: Free Agent Big Men / Possible buyouts
Post by: LooseCannon on February 21, 2013, 06:18:40 PM
Thinking long-term, I prefer to find a player who can be signed for a second year that is either a team option or unguaranteed.
Title: Re: Free Agent Big Men / Possible buyouts
Post by: KG_ended_Bias on February 21, 2013, 06:19:24 PM
How about Darko? oh wait we had him & never played him. Doubt he would do us a favor now. Sucks because he's a perfect piece to what we need right now.
Title: Re: Free Agent Big Men / Possible buyouts
Post by: rocknrollforyoursoul on February 21, 2013, 06:22:52 PM
How about Darko? oh wait we had him & never played him. Doubt he would do us a favor now. Sucks because he's a perfect piece to what we need right now.

You're right, he really would've come in handy this season (thanks, Doc).

Of the guys listed, I might be okay with ANY of them, simply because we need more bigs, but the only two whom I think could really contribute would be Kaman and Brand.
Title: Re: Free Agent Big Men / Possible buyouts
Post by: gar on February 21, 2013, 06:29:39 PM
Think there may be more to Darko's mysterious disappearance. I think the C's did him a favor so he could be closer to home. Now that his season is winding down would not be surprised to see him back.

Title: Re: Free Agent Big Men / Possible buyouts
Post by: Texstyles on February 21, 2013, 06:36:03 PM
What about Yi Jillian ? I know he has been a train reck but he us a 7 footer 250lbs,and in China avg. 16pts 10 reb. I would try him out in a 10 day contract.
Title: Re: Free Agent Big Men / Possible buyouts
Post by: kozlodoev on February 21, 2013, 06:37:44 PM
Elton Brand is the best player available in that group. Rebounder, shot blocker and very good mid range jumper and can even finish strong on the break. He's got mental and physical toughness too. Take him Danny if he's bought out.
Zero chance. He's currently getting 20+ minutes for the Mavericks.
Title: Re: Free Agent Big Men / Possible buyouts
Post by: crownontherocks on February 21, 2013, 06:39:25 PM
What about Yi Jillian ? I know he has been a train reck but he us a 7 footer 250lbs,and in China avg. 16pts 10 reb. I would try him out in a 10 day contract.

I think his team made the championship. I thought i read wont be done for 3 weeks
Title: Re: Free Agent Big Men / Possible buyouts
Post by: LooseCannon on February 21, 2013, 06:44:15 PM
If you want a guy playing in Europe with a track record in the NBA of being a good rebounder, why not try to figure out when Shelden Williams becomes available?
Title: Re: Free Agent Big Men / Possible buyouts
Post by: D Dub on February 21, 2013, 06:47:01 PM
if Hakim Warrick becomes available, that's the guy I want
Title: Re: Free Agent Big Men / Possible buyouts
Post by: Texstyles on February 21, 2013, 06:50:02 PM
What about Yi Jillian ? I know he has been a train reck but he us a 7 footer 250lbs,and in China avg. 16pts 10 reb. I would try him out in a 10 day contract.

I think his team made the championship. I thought i read wont be done for 3 weeks

Wasn't T.Williams on the same team
Title: Re: Free Agent Big Men / Possible buyouts
Post by: CelticConcourse on February 21, 2013, 06:53:49 PM
What about Yi Jillian ? I know he has been a train reck but he us a 7 footer 250lbs,and in China avg. 16pts 10 reb. I would try him out in a 10 day contract.

I think his team made the championship. I thought i read wont be done for 3 weeks

Wasn't T.Williams on the same team

Yi ain't a train wreck. He's just not a good NBA player. He fares well internationally
Title: Re: Free Agent Big Men / Possible buyouts
Post by: LarBrd33 on February 21, 2013, 06:57:18 PM
Jason terry.. the Celtics are going nowhere fast and looking to feed minutes to their young guards Bradley, Lee and Crawford.   Expect to see Terry bought out so he can join a contender.


Kidding...
Title: Re: Free Agent Big Men / Possible buyouts
Post by: crownontherocks on February 21, 2013, 06:58:38 PM
What about Yi Jillian ? I know he has been a train reck but he us a 7 footer 250lbs,and in China avg. 16pts 10 reb. I would try him out in a 10 day contract.

I think his team made the championship. I thought i read wont be done for 3 weeks

Wasn't T.Williams on the same team

I think so but t will he left the team on personal reasons
Title: Re: Free Agent Big Men / Possible buyouts
Post by: connor on February 21, 2013, 07:02:03 PM
What about Yi Jillian ? I know he has been a train reck but he us a 7 footer 250lbs,and in China avg. 16pts 10 reb. I would try him out in a 10 day contract.

I think his team made the championship. I thought i read wont be done for 3 weeks

Wasn't T.Williams on the same team

T. Will was released from his contract due to a death in the family back home. The team he left will still be playing for at least 3 weeks.
Title: Re: Free Agent Big Men / Possible buyouts
Post by: eugen on February 21, 2013, 07:09:01 PM
Do waste your time. Nobody is coming.
Title: Re: Free Agent Big Men / Possible buyouts
Post by: csfansince60s on February 21, 2013, 07:12:21 PM
The Bucks aren't buying out Dalembert while they have legitimate playoff hopes.

QFT. If the Bucks had dealt him at the deadline for a major player, it might have happened. Thought it would come to pass, but no.

Bucks have no intention of dumping Dalembert. He has been playing very well over the past 5 weeks or so. He has played well as a starter when Sanders has been hurt and sick. He has backed Sanders up well during that time too.
He is far too valuable to the Bucks now.

Ainge waited way too long on him. He shoulda bought low a month and a half ago. I hate it when people do what I am doing now. You know, coulda, woulda, shoulda.

 But Ainge, man, WTHuck!! You were there at Denver and LA, you saw those games and the way those guys attacked the paint against us, even with KG in.  You've seen how we've needed all year rebounders and rim protectors.

Man am I frustrated. Spent 9-4 today waiting...for what?

Sorry for the rant.

Title: Re: Free Agent Big Men / Possible buyouts
Post by: LooseCannon on February 21, 2013, 07:16:06 PM
Ainge waited way too long on him. He shoulda bought low a month and a half ago. I hate it when people do what I am doing now. You know, coulda, woulda, shoulda.

Ainge had nothing reasonable to offer.  The Celtics need to find an additional big who is better than Wilcox, not swap Bass for an upgrade.  The best hope was that the Bucks fade out of the playoff race and can't find a way to dump Dalembert's contract at the deadline, so Milwaukee buys him out.  The Bucks are still in it, so that didn't happen.
Title: Re: Free Agent Big Men / Possible buyouts
Post by: csfansince60s on February 21, 2013, 07:18:47 PM
Ainge waited way too long on him. He shoulda bought low a month and a half ago. I hate it when people do what I am doing now. You know, coulda, woulda, shoulda.

Ainge had nothing reasonable to offer.  The Celtics need to find an additional big who is better than Wilcox, not swap Bass for an upgrade.  The best hope was that the Bucks fade out of the playoff race and can't find a way to dump Dalembert's contract at the deadline, so Milwaukee buys him out.  The Bucks are still in it, so that didn't happen.

The Bucks wanted a 2. They got one in Redick. We had 2s to offer.
Title: Re: Free Agent Big Men / Possible buyouts
Post by: LooseCannon on February 21, 2013, 07:30:57 PM
No 2s in the right contract situation who seemed like a good fit for the Bucks.
Title: Re: Free Agent Big Men / Possible buyouts
Post by: Lucky17 on February 21, 2013, 07:33:03 PM
Do waste your time. Nobody is coming.

Better tell Danny Ainge that, since he's reportedly said they will look to find one or two bigs in the next few weeks.
Title: Re: Free Agent Big Men / Possible buyouts
Post by: Geo123 on February 21, 2013, 07:58:50 PM
Do waste your time. Nobody is coming.

Well that's just wrong.  It may be someone you don't like but I guarantee they pick up 1 or 2 bigs...
Title: Re: Free Agent Big Men / Possible buyouts
Post by: chambers on February 21, 2013, 08:08:14 PM
Well id take JO in a heartbeat, can guard the paint while KG sits and has been injury free since he underwent the German knee treatment. Knows our system and is playing better than he has in last 5 years
Title: Re: Free Agent Big Men / Possible buyouts
Post by: KG_ended_Bias on February 21, 2013, 08:12:08 PM
Well id take JO in a heartbeat, can guard the paint while KG sits and has been injury free since he underwent the German knee treatment. Knows our system and is playing better than he has in last 5 years
I 2nd that! Hope he & Doc by-gones are just that. But OKC really wants him also.
Title: Re: Free Agent Big Men / Possible buyouts
Post by: BleedGreen1989 on February 21, 2013, 08:17:57 PM
Well id take JO in a heartbeat, can guard the paint while KG sits and has been injury free since he underwent the German knee treatment. Knows our system and is playing better than he has in last 5 years
I 2nd that! Hope he & Doc by-gones are just that. But OKC really wants him also.

Agreed. Can't hurt and he has been healthy and productive
Title: Re: Free Agent Big Men / Possible buyouts
Post by: albas89 on February 21, 2013, 08:18:22 PM
Well id take JO in a heartbeat, can guard the paint while KG sits and has been injury free since he underwent the German knee treatment. Knows our system and is playing better than he has in last 5 years
He gets treated by the best medical staff in the league in Phoenix... and Celtics' medical staff might be one of the worst.
I don't think he wants to come back anyway, he didn't exactly leave Boston under the best circumstances!

However, if I somehow knew he'd stay healthy for the rest of the season, I'd take him in a heartbeat too.
Title: Re: Free Agent Big Men / Possible buyouts
Post by: danglertx on February 21, 2013, 08:28:19 PM
I still don't get what is up with Hassan Whiteside.  Statistically he dominates the D-Leaugue's per48 holding the #1 spot in rebounding and blocked shots, but hardly plays since getting traded to Houston's affiliate.

He falls out of bed and blocks 2 shots.  He is top ten, seventh I think, in fg% as well.  He is a legit 7 footer who is athletic, jumps well, and runs well. Why not have this guy play 10 minutes a game? 

I can see the replies now, "because he sucks."  Well if he sucks why is he grabbing rebounds and blocking shots at a better clip than anyone else in the D-League?  I watched him play the Red Claws and after he swatted two shots of people driving the Red Claws went into a 3pt shooting contest offense only.

We need a guy who can block shots and rebound.  Seems like a fit.
Title: Re: Free Agent Big Men / Possible buyouts
Post by: csfansince60s on February 21, 2013, 08:29:29 PM
JO is not walking thru that door.

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/226295/ONeal-Not-Seeking-Buyout-From-Suns

Scratch another big off the list. Keeping track, Danny?
Title: Re: Free Agent Big Men / Possible buyouts
Post by: danglertx on February 21, 2013, 08:33:10 PM
Well id take JO in a heartbeat, can guard the paint while KG sits and has been injury free since he underwent the German knee treatment. Knows our system and is playing better than he has in last 5 years
He gets treated by the best medical staff in the league in Phoenix... and Celtics' medical staff might be one of the worst.
I don't think he wants to come back anyway, he didn't exactly leave Boston under the best circumstances!

However, if I somehow knew he'd stay healthy for the rest of the season, I'd take him in a heartbeat too.

I don't think calling our staff one of the worst is particularly fair.  They did save two people's lives last year.  And OKC, their medical staff cost them a draft pick, certainly ours has to be better than them.
Title: Re: Free Agent Big Men / Possible buyouts
Post by: celticpride07 on February 21, 2013, 08:45:28 PM
Maybe shaq will come out of retirement...
Title: Re: Free Agent Big Men / Possible buyouts
Post by: Celtics4ever on February 21, 2013, 08:57:40 PM
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JO is not walking thru that door.

Thank GOD!

Anyone remember these headlines?


www.celticstown.com/2012/03/16/what-in-the-world-is-going-on-with-jermaine-oneal/

http://hoops-nation.com/community/topic/32552-celtics-pursuing-jj-hickson-jermaine-oneal-wants-a-buyout-to-play-in-miami-ray-allen-available/

I can't believe some of you want him back?
Title: Re: Free Agent Big Men / Possible buyouts
Post by: CelticConcourse on February 21, 2013, 08:58:39 PM
Jermaine O'Neal is up there on most-hated Celtics

Doesn't contribute, then when he leaves he says he was being underutilized.
Title: Re: Free Agent Big Men / Possible buyouts
Post by: rmitchell222003 on February 21, 2013, 09:03:21 PM
Ben Wallace... He will be more effective than Collins and Wilcox
Title: Re: Free Agent Big Men / Possible buyouts
Post by: csfansince60s on February 21, 2013, 09:46:25 PM
I still don't get what is up with Hassan Whiteside.  Statistically he dominates the D-Leaugue's per48 holding the #1 spot in rebounding and blocked shots, but hardly plays since getting traded to Houston's affiliate.

He falls out of bed and blocks 2 shots.  He is top ten, seventh I think, in fg% as well.  He is a legit 7 footer who is athletic, jumps well, and runs well. Why not have this guy play 10 minutes a game? 

I can see the replies now, "because he sucks."  Well if he sucks why is he grabbing rebounds and blocking shots at a better clip than anyone else in the D-League?  I watched him play the Red Claws and after he swatted two shots of people driving the Red Claws went into a 3pt shooting contest offense only.

We need a guy who can block shots and rebound.  Seems like a fit.

+1 on Whiteside, you have mentioned him before, and I think he's worth a shot despite some derogatory stuff on this board about his basketball IQ.

Here's a great article on him written around the first of the year:

http://www.ridiculousupside.com/2012/12/29/3810252/hassan-whiteside-is-silencing-his-doubters-with-recent-strong-play

"Questions about basketball IQ swirled again, yet teams were drawn to Whiteside's obvious physical abilities. His 7'7" wingspan makes him an ideal shot blocker, rebounder, and defensive weapon in the paint.
 
On the offensive end of the floor, he has great feel around the rim and finishes strong. Whiteside is also a perimeter threat who can knock down the occasional shot from behind the arc and is accurate from mid-range as well.


And this on his potential from NBAdraft.net:

"NBA Comparison: Marcus Camby/Tyson Chandler

Strengths: A legit 7-footer with excellent size, strength and potential ... Has good agility and run/jump athleticism ... Very intriguing combination of physical attributes (7-feet and 230 lbs with a 7-6 wingspan) and an explosive athlete ... Imposing defensive presence due to his length and leaping ability ... Already a force defensively averaging 4.4 blocks per game in just over 20 minutes per game (through his first 7 games) ... An excellent rebounder, using his size and strength well on the glass at both ends ... Shows an exuberance for the game and should continue to develop as he gains experience ... Shows some nice things offensively with developing post skills and touch on his shot ... He is still in the early stages in his offensive development, so sticking around college 2-3 years would benefit him in the long run


Worth a look.
Title: Re: Free Agent Big Men / Possible buyouts
Post by: danglertx on February 21, 2013, 10:18:10 PM
Wow cool.  Finally someone agrees with me.  ;D

I think he went to China last season.  That has a way of getting someone's attention.  I don't need the guy to join MENSA, I just want someone that makes guards respect us when they drive.
Title: Re: Free Agent Big Men / Possible buyouts
Post by: BudweiserCeltic on February 22, 2013, 11:58:58 AM
Steve Bulpett ‏@SteveBHoop
From today's Herald, big man names C's have discussed: Jerome Jordan, Tim Ohlbrecht, Shavlik Randolph, Louis Amundson, D.J. White.
Title: Re: Free Agent Big Men / Possible buyouts
Post by: ssspence on February 22, 2013, 12:19:53 PM
What about Diop? He seems like a classic vet buyout candidate.
Title: Re: Free Agent Big Men / Possible buyouts
Post by: kozlodoev on February 22, 2013, 01:01:45 PM
What about Diop? He seems like a classic vet buyout candidate.
He'd be great, if he wasn't quite horrible. An illustrative example how a Kendrick Perkins type turns out without the work ethic.
Title: Re: Free Agent Big Men / Possible buyouts
Post by: Geo123 on February 22, 2013, 01:03:05 PM
Kenyon Martin
 Lou Amundson
Darko
Dampier
Troy Murphy
Jermaine O'Neal ( buyout)
Ben Wallace   
Greg Oden ( out for the year)
Chris Kaman (buyout)
Elton Brand ( buyout)

Who am I missing ?

No Dalembert as a potential buyout candidate? He or Kaman are really the only ones i'd consider signing.

There is no way either Dalembertor Kaman get bought out. The Buck traded for JJ to try and make a playoff push and you don't get rid of a big for nothing. They could have traded him.  Same goes for Kaman, plus he's hurt right now...   
Title: Re: Free Agent Big Men / Possible buyouts
Post by: kozlodoev on February 22, 2013, 01:03:22 PM
Steve Bulpett ‏@SteveBHoop
From today's Herald, big man names C's have discussed: Jerome Jordan, Tim Ohlbrecht, Shavlik Randolph, Louis Amundson, D.J. White.
Olbrecht is an intriguing prospect. Size, rebounding, shot blocking. Worth a shot, I think.

http://www.nba.com/dleague/playerfile/tim_ohlbrecht/

http://www.nbadraft.net/players/tim-ohlbrecht
Title: Re: Free Agent Big Men / Possible buyouts
Post by: barefacedmonk on February 22, 2013, 01:16:35 PM
Found this: List of free agents (http://hoopshype.com/free_agency.htm)
Title: Re: Free Agent Big Men / Possible buyouts
Post by: BudweiserCeltic on February 22, 2013, 01:24:05 PM
Steve Bulpett ‏@SteveBHoop
From today's Herald, big man names C's have discussed: Jerome Jordan, Tim Ohlbrecht, Shavlik Randolph, Louis Amundson, D.J. White.
Olbrecht is an intriguing prospect. Size, rebounding, shot blocking. Worth a shot, I think.

http://www.nba.com/dleague/playerfile/tim_ohlbrecht/

http://www.nbadraft.net/players/tim-ohlbrecht

And a good free-throw shooter apparently.
Title: Re: Free Agent Big Men / Possible buyouts
Post by: arctic 3.0 on February 22, 2013, 01:24:16 PM
Steve Bulpett ‏@SteveBHoop
From today's Herald, big man names C's have discussed: Jerome Jordan, Tim Ohlbrecht, Shavlik Randolph, Louis Amundson, D.J. White.
Olbrecht is an intriguing prospect. Size, rebounding, shot blocking. Worth a shot, I think.

http://www.nba.com/dleague/playerfile/tim_ohlbrecht/

http://www.nbadraft.net/players/tim-ohlbrecht

Sounds good, though the quote on nba draft about his lack of passion for the game smacks of patty o' . Something  Kg just don't abide
Title: Re: Free Agent Big Men / Possible buyouts
Post by: arctic 3.0 on February 22, 2013, 01:34:20 PM
Found this: List of free agents (http://hoopshype.com/free_agency.htm)
Earl Barron light us up a few years back when he was with the knicks
Title: Re: Free Agent Big Men / Possible buyouts
Post by: D Dub on February 22, 2013, 01:36:06 PM
Can't believe ORL is about to waive Hakim Warrick. 
Stretch 4, talented defender. Would be perfect for our system.

Title: Re: Free Agent Big Men / Possible buyouts
Post by: Nowee on February 22, 2013, 01:58:02 PM
I still don't get what is up with Hassan Whiteside.  Statistically he dominates the D-Leaugue's per48 holding the #1 spot in rebounding and blocked shots, but hardly plays since getting traded to Houston's affiliate.

He falls out of bed and blocks 2 shots.  He is top ten, seventh I think, in fg% as well.  He is a legit 7 footer who is athletic, jumps well, and runs well. Why not have this guy play 10 minutes a game? 

I can see the replies now, "because he sucks."  Well if he sucks why is he grabbing rebounds and blocking shots at a better clip than anyone else in the D-League?  I watched him play the Red Claws and after he swatted two shots of people driving the Red Claws went into a 3pt shooting contest offense only.

We need a guy who can block shots and rebound.  Seems like a fit.
TP for thinking the same!
Title: Re: Free Agent Big Men / Possible buyouts
Post by: ssspence on February 22, 2013, 03:07:43 PM
What about Diop? He seems like a classic vet buyout candidate.
He'd be great, if he wasn't quite horrible. An illustrative example how a Kendrick Perkins type turns out without the work ethic.

A better comparison is Jason Collins. He's a capable defender, but can't buy a bucket. He'd certainly be worth considering under the circumstances.
Title: Re: Free Agent Big Men / Possible buyouts
Post by: vjcsmoke on February 22, 2013, 04:00:38 PM
I still don't get what is up with Hassan Whiteside.  Statistically he dominates the D-Leaugue's per48 holding the #1 spot in rebounding and blocked shots, but hardly plays since getting traded to Houston's affiliate.

He falls out of bed and blocks 2 shots.  He is top ten, seventh I think, in fg% as well.  He is a legit 7 footer who is athletic, jumps well, and runs well. Why not have this guy play 10 minutes a game? 

I can see the replies now, "because he sucks."  Well if he sucks why is he grabbing rebounds and blocking shots at a better clip than anyone else in the D-League?  I watched him play the Red Claws and after he swatted two shots of people driving the Red Claws went into a 3pt shooting contest offense only.

We need a guy who can block shots and rebound.  Seems like a fit.

+1 on Whiteside, you have mentioned him before, and I think he's worth a shot despite some derogatory stuff on this board about his basketball IQ.

Here's a great article on him written around the first of the year:

http://www.ridiculousupside.com/2012/12/29/3810252/hassan-whiteside-is-silencing-his-doubters-with-recent-strong-play

"Questions about basketball IQ swirled again, yet teams were drawn to Whiteside's obvious physical abilities. His 7'7" wingspan makes him an ideal shot blocker, rebounder, and defensive weapon in the paint.
 
On the offensive end of the floor, he has great feel around the rim and finishes strong. Whiteside is also a perimeter threat who can knock down the occasional shot from behind the arc and is accurate from mid-range as well.


And this on his potential from NBAdraft.net:

"NBA Comparison: Marcus Camby/Tyson Chandler

Strengths: A legit 7-footer with excellent size, strength and potential ... Has good agility and run/jump athleticism ... Very intriguing combination of physical attributes (7-feet and 230 lbs with a 7-6 wingspan) and an explosive athlete ... Imposing defensive presence due to his length and leaping ability ... Already a force defensively averaging 4.4 blocks per game in just over 20 minutes per game (through his first 7 games) ... An excellent rebounder, using his size and strength well on the glass at both ends ... Shows an exuberance for the game and should continue to develop as he gains experience ... Shows some nice things offensively with developing post skills and touch on his shot ... He is still in the early stages in his offensive development, so sticking around college 2-3 years would benefit him in the long run


Worth a look.

Sounds like the next Stiemsma.  only taller.  maybe Danny will take a look!
Title: Re: Free Agent Big Men / Possible buyouts
Post by: Rtpas11 on February 22, 2013, 05:42:42 PM
I'm hoping Blatche gets waived.... We sure need him
Title: Re: Free Agent Big Men / Possible buyouts
Post by: Who on February 22, 2013, 05:49:30 PM
What about Diop? He seems like a classic vet buyout candidate.
I liked Diop a lot a few years. I haven't really seen him play since he tore his achilles. That is a scary injury to come back from. Really hurts a player's mobility.

Depending on how well he recovered from that torn achilles, Diop may or may not be a good option to pursue if waived.
Title: Re: Free Agent Big Men / Possible buyouts
Post by: eugen on February 22, 2013, 05:55:19 PM
Eddie Curry is a good center, not too old and experience
Title: Re: Free Agent Big Men / Possible buyouts
Post by: WeMadeIt17 on February 22, 2013, 05:55:47 PM
Would take Curry at this point..
Title: Re: Free Agent Big Men / Possible buyouts
Post by: BudweiserCeltic on February 22, 2013, 06:01:50 PM
What about Diop? He seems like a classic vet buyout candidate.
I liked Diop a lot a few years. I haven't really seen him play since he tore his achilles. That is a scary injury to come back from. Really hurts a player's mobility.

Depending on how well he recovered from that torn achilles, Diop may or may not be a good option to pursue if waived.

I'm on the same boat. Don't know how he is at the moment, but my most vivid memory of him is believing that if Dallas had played him more against Golden State, they wouldn't have lost that series.

That Dallas playoff team had one of the worst coaching performances in recent memory, Avery Johnson.
Title: Re: Free Agent Big Men / Possible buyouts
Post by: CroCorvus on February 22, 2013, 06:14:34 PM
Any chance that any of these guys get released?

Brendan Haywood,
Tyrus Thomas,
Kwame Brown,
Chris Kaman,
Dexter Pittman,
Nazr Mohammed,
Drew Gooden,
Joel Przybilla,
Anthony Randolph,
Jared Jeffries,
Al Harrington,
Hakim Warrick,
Andris Biendrins,
Hamed Haddadi,
Jermaine O'Neal.
Title: Re: Free Agent Big Men / Possible buyouts
Post by: kozlodoev on February 22, 2013, 06:34:39 PM
I'm hoping Blatche gets waived.... We sure need him
Blatche is getting 20 mpg with Brooklyn.
Title: Re: Free Agent Big Men / Possible buyouts
Post by: Tr1boy on February 22, 2013, 06:42:53 PM
Still puzzled by Ohlbrecht rejecting unless he is the midst of multiple offers and the celts one was the least attractive.

DJ White i guess it is. Has the build of a Reggie Evans. But better athleticism and not as good rebounding skills (unless he improved from his China stint).

Look at his game stats for last year with the bobcats and he was putting up 6 boards in like 20 min =[

I still think Danny should also consider Rick Jackson.
Title: Re: Free Agent Big Men / Possible buyouts
Post by: vgulab on February 22, 2013, 06:51:48 PM
I've come up with 4 groups of possible big men for C's:

1.Hakim Warrick ( this is a group of guys who can really help the team and i've found only 1 guy for this group)

2.Tony Battie, Erick Dampier, Ben Wallace, Juwan Howard
(group of veterans who can give us Collins contribution of some 8min per game)

3.Mickell Gladness, Jarvis Varnado, Hassan Whiteside, Louis Amundson, Keith Benson, Sean Williams ( group of good defenders but young and with a little expirience)

4.Earl Barron, Josh Harrellson, Brad Miller, Luke Harangody, Troy Murphy, Samardo Samuels, DaJuan Summers
(group of guys who can be a liability at the defensive end but they all got some skills for scoring or rebounding)
Title: Re: Free Agent Big Men / Possible buyouts
Post by: BleedGreen1989 on February 22, 2013, 06:52:19 PM
Any chance that any of these guys get released?

Brendan Haywood,
Tyrus Thomas,
Kwame Brown,
Chris Kaman,
Dexter Pittman,
Nazr Mohammed,
Drew Gooden,
Joel Przybilla,
Anthony Randolph,
Jared Jeffries,
Al Harrington,
Hakim Warrick,
Andris Biendrins,
Hamed Haddadi,
Jermaine O'Neal.

Don't know for the life of me why GS never amnestied Biendrins
Title: Re: Free Agent Big Men / Possible buyouts
Post by: Bankshot on February 22, 2013, 06:53:56 PM
Found this: List of free agents (http://hoopshype.com/free_agency.htm)
Earl Barron light us up a few years back when he was with the knicks

Darko is on the list.  Does that mean he's coming back to the NBA?  Will he be willing to rejoin the Celtics?
Title: Re: Free Agent Big Men / Possible buyouts
Post by: LooseCannon on February 22, 2013, 07:00:51 PM
Don't know for the life of me why GS never amnestied Biendrins

Because they are idiots.  In fact, you can pretty much ignore anyone who holds up the Warriors as a model franchise to emulate in building a roster.

The long story is that Golden State amnestied the expiring contract of Charlie Bell, rescinded their qualifying offer to Reggie Williams, and waived Jeremy Lin to create the cap space needed to sign DeAndre Jordan to an offer sheet that the Clippers had no problem deciding to match.

Title: Re: Free Agent Big Men / Possible buyouts
Post by: kozlodoev on February 22, 2013, 07:06:55 PM
Don't know for the life of me why GS never amnestied Biendrins

Because they are idiots.  In fact, you can pretty much ignore anyone who holds up the Warriors as a model franchise to emulate in building a roster.

The long story is that Golden State amnestied the expiring contract of Charlie Bell, rescinded their qualifying offer to Reggie Williams, and waived Jeremy Lin to create the cap space needed to sign DeAndre Jordan to an offer sheet that the Clippers had no problem deciding to match.
Biedrins, on the other hand, is a curious case. He had three quite promising seasons, then fell off a cliff  ::)