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Celtics Basketball => Celtics Talk => Topic started by: rondohondo on February 20, 2013, 04:53:03 PM
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The Boston Celtics and Brooklyn Nets have discussed a trade for Celtics star Paul Pierce, league sources told Yahoo! Sports.
The Nets' offer centered on forward Kris Humphries, guard MarShon Brooks and a first-round draft pick, but the Celtics want a more substantial package to consider moving Pierce, league sources said.
"The Celtics still highly value Pierce and it wouldn't make sense to trade him for that kind of a package if they're keeping Kevin Garnett," one league source said.
Boston has shown interest in guard Mirza Teletovic and securing another possible first-round pick, but the Nets have shown no inclination to pay that steep of a price for Pierce.
Boston had interest in guard C.J. Watson in a separate deal, but Brooklyn doesn't want to part with him, sources said.
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Eh. They didn't want him last year, I don't think this will amount to much
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Eh. They didn't want him last year, I don't think this will amount to much
The story was that Pierce shot the proposal down, not Brooklyn/NJ.
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Well I would trade PP for Smith, but I can't think of someone I really want off the Nets.
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Eh. They didn't want him last year, I don't think this will amount to much
The story was that Pierce shot the proposal down, not Brooklyn/NJ.
He doesn't have a no trade though....
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Nets don't have any assets that they would move for Pierce that I'd find attractive.
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Eh. They didn't want him last year, I don't think this will amount to much
The story was that Pierce shot the proposal down, not Brooklyn/NJ.
Wouldn't he just shoot it down again this year? There's no difference really
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Eh. They didn't want him last year, I don't think this will amount to much
The story was that Pierce shot the proposal down, not Brooklyn/NJ.
He doesn't have a no trade though....
Threat of retirement would do it.
No way the Nets would want to trade a lottery pick for a player who they credibly believed would retire.
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Eh. They didn't want him last year, I don't think this will amount to much
The story was that Pierce shot the proposal down, not Brooklyn/NJ.
Wouldn't he just shoot it down again this year? There's no difference really
They'd be giving up nothing close to the value of a lottery pick this year.
Plus Deron is there long term now, JJ too. Easier to sell Pierce on the team now as they're playoff bound.
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Eh. They didn't want him last year, I don't think this will amount to much
The story was that Pierce shot the proposal down, not Brooklyn/NJ.
Wouldn't he just shoot it down again this year? There's no difference really
They'd be giving up nothing close to the value of a lottery pick this year.
Plus Deron is there long term now, JJ too. Easier to sell Pierce on the team now as they're playoff bound.
I thought it'd be harder since they have less assets and aren't looking to cut salary (since they aren't rebuildin' and Mr. Russian is rich)
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Eh. They didn't want him last year, I don't think this will amount to much
The story was that Pierce shot the proposal down, not Brooklyn/NJ.
He doesn't have a no trade though....
He doesn't have a no trade, but I think he still has considerable power simply by refusing to report somewhere or threatening retirement. So it was definitely reported by some that Pierce killed a potential deal that would have landed us the Nets lotto pick. Fwiw, that pick ended up going to Portland and they used it to take Damian Lillard. Could have used it on Harrison Barnes or (my personal favorite) Andre Drummond, though.
Some report it differently, though. I heard the Nets turned it down. But really I still lean towards the story that Pierce killed it... because that Gerald Wallace deal seemed like a panic move and I think they would have preferred Pierce over Wallace.
Just an FYI, back in 2005 the Celtics tried to trade Pierce to Portland for an instant-expiring Nick Van Exel contract and the #3 pick that would have been used to take Chris Paul. Ainge was very high on Chris Paul at the time. Apparently Pierce killed that one too. I don't think you need a "no trade" clause to kill a deal... you just have to throw a stink about playing somewhere. It's the reason why I continue to think it's unlikely Pierce or KG get moved. They'd have to want to play somewhere... especially at this point where they both have a foot in retirement already.
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The Nets have virtually no desireable assets of any kind. All of their players (or their contracts) are terrible.
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There are only two players I would trade Pierce to the Nets for and I don't think the Nets are going to move Deron Williams or Brook Lopez for Pierce. If I'm Boston and I want to go into rebuilding I might consider the following trade:
Pierce, Green, Bass, Terry
for
Wallace, Humphries, Evans, Taylor, Teletovic, Brooks, Blatche, 2013 1st
Basically clears out Boston's dead weight (and Pierce which would hurt) for Wallace's dead weight (smaller combined and more easily moved in the future), Humphries next year expiring contract (making him very valuable this summer), and a bunch of young guys (or vets on good deals).
Probably wouldn't do it, but I wouldn't immediately hang up the phone laughting either.
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Just saw on realgm they offered Humprhies Brooks and a pick for Pierce.. YUCK
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The Boston Celtics and Brooklyn Nets have discussed a trade for Celtics star Paul Pierce, league sources told Yahoo! Sports.
The Nets' offer centered on forward Kris Humphries, guard MarShon Brooks and a first-round draft pick, but the Celtics want a more substantial package to consider moving Pierce, league sources said.
Boston has shown interest in forward Mirza Teletovic and securing another possible first-round pick, but the Nets have shown no inclination to pay that steep of a price for Pierce.
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so, the nets want to give us their trash for Pierce? no thanks...
Brooks/Humphries who have been underwhelming this year and a pick in the 20's for Pierce...sorry but Nope
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The Boston Celtics and Brooklyn Nets have discussed a trade for Celtics star Paul Pierce, league sources told Yahoo! Sports.
The Nets' offer centered on forward Kris Humphries, guard MarShon Brooks and a first-round draft pick, but the Celtics want a more substantial package to consider moving Pierce, league sources said.
Boston has shown interest in forward Mirza Teletovic and securing another possible first-round pick, but the Nets have shown no inclination to pay that steep of a price for Pierce.
Wow. Laugh, and then hang up the phone. What a one-sided deal. Pierce hasn't declined that much.
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I just threw up in my mouth.
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The Boston Celtics and Brooklyn Nets have discussed a trade for Celtics star Paul Pierce, league sources told Yahoo! Sports.
The Nets' offer centered on forward Kris Humphries, guard MarShon Brooks and a first-round draft pick, but the Celtics want a more substantial package to consider moving Pierce, league sources said.
Boston has shown interest in forward Mirza Teletovic and securing another possible first-round pick, but the Nets have shown no inclination to pay that steep of a price for Pierce.
Wow. Laugh, and then hang up the phone. What a one-sided deal.
I wouldn't call Teletovic "steep price". Guy clearly has a lot to learn.
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What the heck kind of offer is that. Horrrrible. Good job for turning it down, Danny.
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Ae they crazy? I'm offended by this nonsen...
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Im still waiting on the Celtics 1 sided trade where we turn crap into gold. Unfortunately I think we used it up on the mchale parish and KG deals
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Wow, call me crazy but I would've taken that.
Humphries is a very good rebounder and Brooks can become an excellent shooting guard
Plus a draft pick for a 35 year old small forward? Take the sentimitality out of it, and this would've been a good deal for the Celts.
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Celtics have expressed interest in MIRZA? :'3
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Wow, call me crazy but I would've taken that.
Humphries is a very good rebounder and Brooks can become an excellent shooting guard
Plus a draft pick for a 35 year old small forward? Take the sentimitality out of it, and this would've been a good deal for the Celts.
You're crazy ;D
But Pierce means a lot more to us than his on-court abilities. If he is traded, tremors will be felt in Tajikistan; he means a LOT
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Wow, call me crazy but I would've taken that.
Humphries is a very good rebounder and Brooks can become an excellent shooting guard
Plus a draft pick for a 35 year old small forward? Take the sentimitality out of it, and this would've been a good deal for the Celts.
Humphries is on a huge contract, has been generally inefficient this season, has bad blood with Garnett, and is generally resented around the league because of the Kim Kardashian story.
And Brooks has come down to earth hard this season too. This trade has the potential to leave you with a big wad of nothing a year from now.
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The Boston Celtics and Brooklyn Nets have discussed a trade for Celtics star Paul Pierce, league sources told Yahoo! Sports.
The Nets' offer centered on forward Kris Humphries, guard MarShon Brooks and a first-round draft pick, but the Celtics want a more substantial package to consider moving Pierce, league sources said.
"The Celtics still highly value Pierce and it wouldn't make sense to trade him for that kind of a package if they're keeping Kevin Garnett," one league source said.
Boston has shown interest in guard Mirza Teletovic and securing another possible first-round pick, but the Nets have shown no inclination to pay that steep of a price for Pierce.
Boston had interest in guard C.J. Watson in a separate deal, but Brooklyn doesn't want to part with him, sources said.
Blech. If that's the best offer the Celtics can get for Pierce, he isn't headed anywhere.
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Wow, call me crazy but I would've taken that.
Humphries is a very good rebounder and Brooks can become an excellent shooting guard
Plus a draft pick for a 35 year old small forward? Take the sentimitality out of it, and this would've been a good deal for the Celts.
Humphries lost his job to Reggie Evans (think about that for a moment) and MarShon Brooks is their third-string SG and plays no defense. Their pick is in the early-to-mid 20's and therefore wouldn't be especially valuable either.
Again, laughable.
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Wow, call me crazy but I would've taken that.
Humphries is a very good rebounder and Brooks can become an excellent shooting guard
Plus a draft pick for a 35 year old small forward? Take the sentimitality out of it, and this would've been a good deal for the Celts.
Humphries is on a huge contract, has been generally inefficient this season, has bad blood with Garnett, and is generally resented around the league because of the Kim Kardashian story.
Not to mention Rondo tried to knock his block off (well, ok, the modern NBA equivalent) earlier this year. Don't think there's much love for Humphries in this locker room. KG would probably only communicate with him through a series of DMXesque barks.
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Horrible. Two bums for pierce? No way
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Lol...nets trying to catch Danny while he's drunk or something?
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Wow, call me crazy but I would've taken that.
Humphries is a very good rebounder and Brooks can become an excellent shooting guard
Plus a draft pick for a 35 year old small forward? Take the sentimitality out of it, and this would've been a good deal for the Celts.
you're crazy ;)
2 scrubs and a crap pick for a hall of fame player still playing well?
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Is this report legit? I am actually having a hard time believe Brooklyn would offer that much for Pierce and that the Celtics would turn it down.
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Wow, call me crazy but I would've taken that.
Humphries is a very good rebounder and Brooks can become an excellent shooting guard
Plus a draft pick for a 35 year old small forward? Take the sentimitality out of it, and this would've been a good deal for the Celts.
Humphries is on a huge contract, has been generally inefficient this season, has bad blood with Garnett, and is generally resented around the league because of the Kim Kardashian story.
And Brooks has come down to earth hard this season too. This trade has the potential to leave you with a big wad of nothing a year from now.
Hum, well... Pierce for a good young rebounder, a good young SG and good high draft pick would be a reasonably good offer. Unfortunately, what the Nets offered doesn't qualify on any counts. I suspect that was a "throw something up and and let's see if Danny is desperate/crazy enough to take it" type of offer. He's probably been fielding quite a few of those over the last few days.
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Is this report legit? I am actually having a hard time believe Brooklyn would offer that much for Pierce and that the Celtics would turn it down.
League sources via Yahoo Sports. As legit as it gets.
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Is this report legit? I am actually having a hard time believe Brooklyn would offer that much for Pierce and that the Celtics would turn it down.
League sources via Yahoo Sports. As legit as it gets.
Got it, thanks! Wonder if Brooklyn would up the ante (Gerald Wallace, Reggie Evans, etc.)
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I'd be shocked if the Nets even had the stones to suggest this trade. Its...just silly. At first, I thought it was Brook Lopez, not Brooks...which I still wouldn't be crazy about (Lopez is wildly overrated), but this is just a silly offer. If they actually offered it, I think that doesn't say much about their front office.
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Is this report legit? I am actually having a hard time believe Brooklyn would offer that much for Pierce and that the Celtics would turn it down.
League sources via Yahoo Sports. As legit as it gets.
Got it, thanks! Wonder if Brooklyn would up the ante (Gerald Wallace, Reggie Evans, etc.)
Gerald Wallace makes Jeff Green's contract look like a steal. Evans does one thing well and sucks at everything else.
I'm not fond of giving up genuine assets for another team's slop. That sounds like... like the reverse of most of the trade proposals on CelticsBlog.
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Is this report legit? I am actually having a hard time believe Brooklyn would offer that much for Pierce and that the Celtics would turn it down.
Never liked pierce and haven't watched Humphries and that other scrub this season?
Idk I don't understand
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Remember when most posters here loved Marshon Brooks and were ticked at Danny for "trading" him?
Granted he's better than JJJ but it's funny to see him widely considered a scrub a year later.
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Boston has shown interest in guard Mirza Teletovic and securing another possible first-round pick, but the Nets have shown no inclination to pay that steep of a price for Pierce.
Well, I like Teletovic way more than Humphries or Brooks, so I think Teletovic and multiple firsts would be my minimum request to begin a conversation that lasts more than a couple of minutes.
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Teletovic + a #1 is considered a "steep price"?
Haha. Wow.
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Teletovic + a #1 is considered a "steep price"?
Haha. Wow.
Yeah, that's ridiculous.
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pretty lame offer by the nets. But IF and its a big if they offer
Humphries, Brooks, Teletovic and a 1st , Danny will really think about it
I've had my eyes on this kid Teletovic before. He is the next coming of Gallianari. Or you could say it the other way around since Galla is younger
But he has the exact same game, just had barely any chance to play
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-g4LengCbo4 (did a # on us)
From the clip that drop back jumper from the key, would be near unstoppable
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Teletovic + a #1 is considered a "steep price"?
Haha. Wow.
well its Teletovic + a couple of 1st picks + Humprhies. Thats why . Not only Teletovic and a 1st
For the long term, its a robbery for the celts.
Honestly i would consider long and hard for Humphris, Brooks, Teletovic and a 1st.
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From the clip that drop back jumper from the key, would be near unstoppable
Yup, can't stop this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhW3fz_xpcI
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It's funny -- I was telling a buddy this morning that the Nets would probably offer Hump, Marshon and a 1st for Pierce and it came true. I still wouldn't deal Pierce for that package, but I am interested in a few of the Nets assets. To make the salaries match, Hump would have to be included. I would list their assets as follows:
1. 1st-round picks
2. Rights to Bojan Bogdanovic
3. Marshon Brooks
4. Mirza Teletovic
5. Tornike Shengelia
6. Rights to Ilkan Karaman
7. 2nd-round picks
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From the clip that drop back jumper from the key, would be near unstoppable
Yup, can't stop this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhW3fz_xpcI
lol . That was actually kind of funny
You just picked the worse of the worse he has done prob ever. The guy doesn't play for 3 or 4 games and is asked to step in a score. Its sort of unfair
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lol . That was actually kind of funny
You just picked the worse of the worse he has done prob ever. The guy doesn't play for 3 or 4 games and is asked to step in a score. Its sort of unfair
I agree, but the Celtics highlights were cherry picking as well. Split the difference, and we're getting somewhere.
A skilled big man may be an intriguing asset, but it's far from a give how he'll pan out. I hear Nets fans like him, though given their options at PF this doesn't mean much.
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Hum, well... Pierce for a good young rebounder, a good young SG and good high draft pick would be a reasonably good offer. Unfortunately, what the Nets offered doesn't qualify on any counts. I suspect that was a "throw something up and and let's see if Danny is desperate/crazy enough to take it" type of offer. He's probably been fielding quite a few of those over the last few days.
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That was my initial reaction. I understand Hump is disliked for being a Kardashian pretty boy, but he's a very good rebounder. And Marshon Brooks was projected to be a very good scorer in the 2011 draft. So that, plus a draft pick I think is a very solid offer for a 35 year old small forward.
I know Paul is a Celtics legend but I am just looking at it from a different perspective
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Apparently Vescey tweeted that it's confirmed Ainge offered Pierce to the Nets for a "top 2-3 player, likely Joe Johnson".
Thoughts?
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Hey, any time you can trade Paul Pierce for a 27 year old rookie with a PER of 12 you do it, right?
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Apparently Vescey tweeted that it's confirmed Ainge offered Pierce to the Nets for a "top 2-3 player, likely Joe Johnson".
Thoughts?
We're becoming the Timberwolves of shooting guards.