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Title: Danny Ainge tells Rondo He Won't Be Dealt
Post by: lightspeed5 on February 20, 2013, 02:37:45 PM
Danny Ainge has assured Rajon Rondo's agent that the Boston Celtics will not trade him.

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/226235/Rondo-Assured-By-Celtics-He-Wont-Be-Dealt

I think the scary part is he hasn't told KG or pierce this.
Title: Re: Danny Ainge tells Rondo He Won't Be Dealt
Post by: BudweiserCeltic on February 20, 2013, 02:42:06 PM
Danny: I'll trade Rondo if the right deal comes along, I don't think there'll be one this year.

Duffy: He [Ainge] was emphatic that they would not trade Rajon Rondo.
Title: Re: Danny Ainge tells Rondo He Won't Be Dealt
Post by: Onslaught on February 20, 2013, 03:59:12 PM
He hasn't got to tell KG this. KG can't be traded unless he's ok with it so in a way KG is telling Ainge " I won't be dealt."
Title: Re: Danny Ainge tells Rondo He Won't Be Dealt
Post by: LooseCannon on February 20, 2013, 04:27:58 PM
Maybe Rondo's agent just likes to talk to the media more.
Title: Re: Danny Ainge tells Rondo He Won't Be Dealt
Post by: Chief Macho on February 20, 2013, 04:36:46 PM
Hope Ainge gets canned.  Dude is worthless since '08
Title: Re: Danny Ainge tells Rondo He Won't Be Dealt
Post by: CelticConcourse on February 20, 2013, 04:38:25 PM
Hope Ainge gets canned.  Dude is worthless since '08

<I haven't been a fan that long but...>

I like the picks for Sully and Bradley (jury still out on Melo)
And I liked his move to get Lee as well
Resigning Rondo looks like a steal too (CHEAP contract)
Title: Re: Danny Ainge tells Rondo He Won't Be Dealt
Post by: LarBrd33 on February 20, 2013, 04:40:09 PM
Hope Ainge gets canned.  Dude is worthless since '08
I think most of his moves had a pretty sound logic behind it.  And this team has remained competitive far longer than it should have. 
Title: Re: Danny Ainge tells Rondo He Won't Be Dealt
Post by: Sketch5 on February 20, 2013, 05:07:59 PM
Hope Ainge gets canned.  Dude is worthless since '08

Considering the team has had most of its money tied up in three players.Almost 36 mill just on two of the for the last few seasons, he's done pretty well keeping the team competitive.

Injuries have been the down fall of the team, just bad luck. We had Kg go down. Then Shaq and the other O"Neal couldnt get healthy.

 last season missed out on West, Green and Wilcox out with Heart issues, almost had Mayo but the sound's like the team wasn't happy about Ray leaving(how did that turn out?) AB gets hurt, Rays ankle are bad, and PP knee is bad, yet they still get to game seven in the EC.

This season is the same,Rondo. Barbosa and Sully, Darko with family. Its not really DA's fault we haven't done better, its been horrible luck, but we've been in the thick of it just about every year since '08. Not too many teams can say that.

His job is to keep the team in the playoffs, compete in them every year and keep the fans coming for every game, even against teams like the Bobcats. So until we don't make the for three years, then you can he's been worthless.
 
Title: Re: Danny Ainge tells Rondo He Won't Be Dealt
Post by: SHAQATTACK on February 20, 2013, 05:14:40 PM
but.......he never said " forever".  ............immediate future , maybe till next season, and maybe not........

very vague statement.

he isn't giving Rondo away,    he'll let Rondo heal,  come back,   and how his value rates to the Celtics vs trades will determine his future

Title: Re: Danny Ainge tells Rondo He Won't Be Dealt
Post by: cman88 on February 20, 2013, 05:31:48 PM
im not sure why some fans are so quick to want to ship Rondo out of town.

Pierce/Garnett sentimentality aside I can understand as they are older players close to retirement.

but you've got a young Allstar Point guard on a cheap contract..what do you want to trade him for? unless its a top tier star
Title: Re: Danny Ainge tells Rondo He Won't Be Dealt
Post by: LooseCannon on February 20, 2013, 06:32:03 PM
im not sure why some fans are so quick to want to ship Rondo out of town.

Because they (wrongly) think that he is a non-All-Star talent who hurts the team when healthy.
Title: Re: Danny Ainge tells Rondo He Won't Be Dealt
Post by: BudweiserCeltic on February 20, 2013, 06:35:20 PM
im not sure why some fans are so quick to want to ship Rondo out of town.

Because they (wrongly) think that he is a non-All-Star talent who hurts the team when healthy.

Or maybe they (correctly) figure that they have a prime opportunity to upgrade the roster substantially with a player that it's out for the season, in what could be one of the last remaining shots at the title on this current window... regardless if Ainge decides to start rebuilding next season or not.

You have to maximize this opportunity, and if takes Rondo to do it, you do it.
Title: Re: Danny Ainge tells Rondo He Won't Be Dealt
Post by: esel1000 on February 20, 2013, 06:37:15 PM
im not sure why some fans are so quick to want to ship Rondo out of town.

Because they (wrongly) think that he is a non-All-Star talent who hurts the team when healthy.

I love Rondo and what he brings to this team. I only support trading him if the KG trade goes through and we get Bledsoe and Jordan and Bledsoe proves himself to be a good starting pg for the rest of the year. If thats the case you trade Rondo for additional talent. Other than that, I want him on this team
Title: Re: Danny Ainge tells Rondo He Won't Be Dealt
Post by: BballTim on February 20, 2013, 07:20:14 PM
im not sure why some fans are so quick to want to ship Rondo out of town.

Because they (wrongly) think that he is a non-All-Star talent who hurts the team when healthy.

Or maybe they (correctly) figure that they have a prime opportunity to upgrade the roster substantially with a player that it's out for the season, in what could be one of the last remaining shots at the title on this current window... regardless if Ainge decides to start rebuilding next season or not.

You have to maximize this opportunity, and if takes Rondo to do it, you do it.

  You won't get a good return for an injured player and you'll pretty much be insuring that it's the last shot on this current window.

Title: Re: Danny Ainge tells Rondo He Won't Be Dealt
Post by: BudweiserCeltic on February 20, 2013, 07:30:38 PM
im not sure why some fans are so quick to want to ship Rondo out of town.

Because they (wrongly) think that he is a non-All-Star talent who hurts the team when healthy.

Or maybe they (correctly) figure that they have a prime opportunity to upgrade the roster substantially with a player that it's out for the season, in what could be one of the last remaining shots at the title on this current window... regardless if Ainge decides to start rebuilding next season or not.

You have to maximize this opportunity, and if takes Rondo to do it, you do it.

  You won't get a good return for an injured player and you'll pretty much be insuring that it's the last shot on this current window.

1) We'll see if the return is good. If it isn't there, it isn't there.

2) Considering that we have this exact roster pretty much signed up for 3 years, I don't see the long behind the "insuring it's the last shot on this current window" idea.
Title: Re: Danny Ainge tells Rondo He Won't Be Dealt
Post by: BballTim on February 20, 2013, 07:47:02 PM
im not sure why some fans are so quick to want to ship Rondo out of town.

Because they (wrongly) think that he is a non-All-Star talent who hurts the team when healthy.

Or maybe they (correctly) figure that they have a prime opportunity to upgrade the roster substantially with a player that it's out for the season, in what could be one of the last remaining shots at the title on this current window... regardless if Ainge decides to start rebuilding next season or not.

You have to maximize this opportunity, and if takes Rondo to do it, you do it.

  You won't get a good return for an injured player and you'll pretty much be insuring that it's the last shot on this current window.

1) We'll see if the return is good. If it isn't there, it isn't there.

2) Considering that we have this exact roster pretty much signed up for 3 years, I don't see the long behind the "insuring it's the last shot on this current window" idea.

  The fact that it's signed up for 3 more years is why you don't trade Rondo for players who won't more likely than not put you over the top. If you trade your best asset for lesser players to help your chances this year and don't win the title then it's a bad move.
Title: Re: Danny Ainge tells Rondo He Won't Be Dealt
Post by: LooseCannon on February 20, 2013, 10:01:12 PM
im not sure why some fans are so quick to want to ship Rondo out of town.

Because they (wrongly) think that he is a non-All-Star talent who hurts the team when healthy.

Or maybe they (correctly) figure that they have a prime opportunity to upgrade the roster substantially with a player that it's out for the season, in what could be one of the last remaining shots at the title on this current window... regardless if Ainge decides to start rebuilding next season or not.

You have to maximize this opportunity, and if takes Rondo to do it, you do it.

Does that mean you would trade an injured Sullinger for an inferior but useful talent who can at least play this season and is capable of being a solid rotational player on a contender?
Title: Re: Danny Ainge tells Rondo He Won't Be Dealt
Post by: BudweiserCeltic on February 20, 2013, 10:05:38 PM
im not sure why some fans are so quick to want to ship Rondo out of town.

Because they (wrongly) think that he is a non-All-Star talent who hurts the team when healthy.

Or maybe they (correctly) figure that they have a prime opportunity to upgrade the roster substantially with a player that it's out for the season, in what could be one of the last remaining shots at the title on this current window... regardless if Ainge decides to start rebuilding next season or not.

You have to maximize this opportunity, and if takes Rondo to do it, you do it.

Does that mean you would trade an injured Sullinger for an inferior but useful talent who can at least play this season and is capable of being a solid rotational player on a contender?

Let me put it this way, I'd trade Rondo for Al Jefferson without a second thought. I'd trade Rondo for Dwight without a second thought. I'd probably do the Milsap deal too, but not too high on it simply because I don't like playing Bass alongisde another undersized player. A package around Gortat could be interesting.

Having trouble finding who could be had or who has been rumored that could be had with Sullinger, so I'd need to see some examples. But it's questionable.

Other than what a player of the caliber above could do for this team this season, with an outside chance of them remaining here at the very least, it's that I'm very comfortable with our crop of guards we have currently, so willing to make a deal for Rondo for a player I might not have considered were he healthy this year. That's really not the case with Sully and our big man situation.
Title: Re: Danny Ainge tells Rondo He Won't Be Dealt
Post by: LooseCannon on February 20, 2013, 10:12:11 PM
Having trouble finding who could be had or who has been rumored that could be had with Sullinger, so I'd need to see some examples. But it's questionable.

Let's say Sullinger, Melo, and Barbosa for JJ Hickson or Mozgov.
Title: Re: Danny Ainge tells Rondo He Won't Be Dealt
Post by: BudweiserCeltic on February 20, 2013, 10:16:43 PM
Having trouble finding who could be had or who has been rumored that could be had with Sullinger, so I'd need to see some examples. But it's questionable.

Let's say Sullinger, Melo, and Barbosa for JJ Hickson or Mozgov.

Of course you do the Hickson deal, that's a no brainer. Don't care for Mozgov, so no. Don't think he's enough value for Sully vs. what he would contribute for us this year, something that might be available around without having to do a trade.