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Title: Championship team? *Green colored goggles deactivated*
Post by: Lightskinsmurf on February 19, 2013, 11:51:35 PM
Your best players are pierce and kg, two guys far past their primes. You have a team that loses its identity when KG sits. Collins and wilcox are his backups. Also, bass is your starting PF. Championship team? Not even sure they could win it all in my dreams.
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Post by: BudweiserCeltic on February 19, 2013, 11:53:10 PM
Ah, didn't take long to overreact to a loss against a team we particularly don't match-up well, in a game where the free-throw differential was 36 to 16... color me unconcerned by it.
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Post by: Lightskinsmurf on February 19, 2013, 11:56:11 PM
Ah, didn't take long to overreact to a loss against a team we particularly don't match-up well, in a game where the free-throw differential was 36 to 16... color me unconcerned by it.

I'm not overreacting to anything. I've been consistent about my feelings towards this team since rondo went down and even before that. We weren't a championship team before the loss and we're not now.
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Post by: BudweiserCeltic on February 19, 2013, 11:57:16 PM
Ah, didn't take long to overreact to a loss against a team we particularly don't match-up well, in a game where the free-throw differential was 36 to 16... color me unconcerned by it.

I'm not overreacting to anything. I've been consistent about my feelings towards this team since rondo went down and even before that. We weren't a championship team before the loss and we're not now.

Oh, I know you've been consistent on it, but still an overreaction to a loss.
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Post by: CelticConcourse on February 19, 2013, 11:57:42 PM
Ah, didn't take long to overreact to a loss against a team we particularly don't match-up well, in a game where the free-throw differential was 36 to 16... color me unconcerned by it.

I'm not overreacting to anything. I've been consistent about my feelings towards this team since rondo went down and even before that. We weren't a championship team before the loss and we're not now.

It doesn't matter if we are one now. It only matters if we CAN be one in the Playoffs. Like Cuban said, 5%.
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Post by: Lightskinsmurf on February 19, 2013, 11:59:25 PM
Ah, didn't take long to overreact to a loss against a team we particularly don't match-up well, in a game where the free-throw differential was 36 to 16... color me unconcerned by it.

I'm not overreacting to anything. I've been consistent about my feelings towards this team since rondo went down and even before that. We weren't a championship team before the loss and we're not now.

It doesn't matter if we are one now. It only matters if we CAN be one in the Playoffs. Like Cuban said, 5%.

Uhhhh...unless kg and pierce go back to being 27 and our backup bigs aren't collins and wilcox we won't be one in the playoffs either.
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Post by: action781 on February 20, 2013, 12:34:23 AM
Ah, didn't take long to overreact to a loss against a team we particularly don't match-up well, in a game where the free-throw differential was 36 to 16... color me unconcerned by it.

And Pierce shot 2/14
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Post by: FreeGreen on February 20, 2013, 12:40:24 AM
A close loss to the team with the best home record in basketball?

Abandon ship!!
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Post by: Lightskinsmurf on February 20, 2013, 12:45:23 AM
A close loss to the team with the best home record in basketball?

Abandon ship!!

Yeah, too bad everybody knows the real story.
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Post by: Clench123 on February 20, 2013, 12:56:39 AM
Yea, we play so well without Rondo  ::)
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Post by: Lightskinsmurf on February 20, 2013, 12:59:06 AM
Yea, we play so well without Rondo  ::)

We played real well with him too. ::)
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Post by: ozman on February 20, 2013, 01:53:44 AM
Your best players are pierce and kg, two guys far past their primes. You have a team that loses its identity when KG sits. Collins and wilcox are his backups. Also, bass is your starting PF. Championship team? Not even sure they could win it all in my dreams.

no team should play to loose. sentimental thoughts for kg and pp aside, this team providing we make the playoffs does have a chance to win it all, just like every team that makes the playoffs. we match up well with every team in the east, we have great experience and strengths that that in the playoffs type series, outweigh the flaws.

is it likely? probably not, but you gotta be in it to win it.

i definitely recommend you read current forum topiic. 'the rebuilding myth
http://forums.celticsblog.com/index.php?topic=63019.msg1410972;topicseen#new (http://forums.celticsblog.com/index.php?topic=63019.msg1410972;topicseen#new)'

basically, for every team that has a successful rebuild and becomes contenders in a short amount of time (very very few) there are 10-15 teams whos rebuilding effort gets them stuck in a hold of mediocrity. We are in a good position, good assets, future cap room. and more importantly, we have a team that right now has a chance to make a run in the playoffs.
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Post by: Lightskinsmurf on February 20, 2013, 04:23:08 AM
Your best players are pierce and kg, two guys far past their primes. You have a team that loses its identity when KG sits. Collins and wilcox are his backups. Also, bass is your starting PF. Championship team? Not even sure they could win it all in my dreams.

no team should play to loose. sentimental thoughts for kg and pp aside, this team providing we make the playoffs does have a chance to win it all, just like every team that makes the playoffs.[/color] we match up well with every team in the east, we have great experience and strengths that that in the playoffs type series, outweigh the flaws.

is it likely? probably not, but you gotta be in it to win it.

i definitely recommend you read current forum topiic. 'the rebuilding myth
http://forums.celticsblog.com/index.php?topic=63019.msg1410972;topicseen#new (http://forums.celticsblog.com/index.php?topic=63019.msg1410972;topicseen#new)'

basically, for every team that has a successful rebuild and becomes contenders in a short amount of time (very very few) there are 10-15 teams whos rebuilding effort gets them stuck in a hold of mediocrity. We are in a good position, good assets, future cap room. and more importantly, we have a team that right now has a chance to make a run in the playoffs.

Stopped reading right there. I'm not talking about pipe dreams here. Everybody that plays the lottery has a chance to win as well. The odds are so stacked against you tho its pretty safe to say it ain't happening.
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Post by: Celtics4ever on February 20, 2013, 06:10:43 AM
We are like a 1 in 30 chance.

http://www.oddsshark.com/nba/nba-championship-odds

We were 1 in 25 earlier in Nov.

I don't think we have a realistic chance to win it all.   I will be rooting for us to win though.
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Post by: tyrone biggums on February 20, 2013, 06:26:05 AM
Your best players are pierce and kg, two guys far past their primes. You have a team that loses its identity when KG sits. Collins and wilcox are his backups. Also, bass is your starting PF. Championship team? Not even sure they could win it all in my dreams.

If they have the same roster at 3pm tomorrow then no. If they add a legit center or josh smith for green + bass + pick then yes.
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Post by: Lightskinsmurf on February 20, 2013, 06:29:38 AM
We are like a 1 in 30 chance.

http://www.oddsshark.com/nba/nba-championship-odds

We were 1 in 25 earlier in Nov.

I don't think we have a realistic chance to win it all.   I will be rooting for us to win though.

As will I, its just extremely frustrating because i had high hopes coming into this season.
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Post by: CroCorvus on February 20, 2013, 06:44:44 AM
Of course that we are not chapmionship team in at the moment, it's not like we discovered hot water or something with that...It's all about playing hard and not much else...
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Post by: pearljammer10 on February 20, 2013, 08:05:37 AM
Gotta love rooting for your squad with this type of optimism!
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Post by: wdleehi on February 20, 2013, 08:32:05 AM
Was that really in question? 



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Post by: kgainez on February 20, 2013, 12:03:28 PM
Your best players are pierce and kg, two guys far past their primes. You have a team that loses its identity when KG sits. Collins and wilcox are his backups. Also, bass is your starting PF. Championship team? Not even sure they could win it all in my dreams.

i felt like we do well with KG off the floor in the first 2 or 3 quarters. but in the 4th quarter, I think we panic a bit and KG is the anchor there.

We went up 9 with KG off the floor that one time.

not to mention that when KG and PP are on the floor, ball always defers to them whether they're playing well or not
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Post by: Lightskinsmurf on February 20, 2013, 12:15:11 PM
Your best players are pierce and kg, two guys far past their primes. You have a team that loses its identity when KG sits. Collins and wilcox are his backups. Also, bass is your starting PF. Championship team? Not even sure they could win it all in my dreams.

i felt like we do well with KG off the floor in the first 2 or 3 quarters. but in the 4th quarter, I think we panic a bit and KG is the anchor there.

We went up 9 with KG off the floor that one time.

not to mention that when KG and PP are on the floor, ball always defers to them whether they're playing well or not

Yeah that is really annoying. Shooters shoot but they also miss. If you're off then you're off. I don't wanna say turn down open shots but don't go out of your way to get a shot off if you know its not your night. Pierce will go 1-40 before he stopped shooting.
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Post by: kgainez on February 20, 2013, 12:21:08 PM
Your best players are pierce and kg, two guys far past their primes. You have a team that loses its identity when KG sits. Collins and wilcox are his backups. Also, bass is your starting PF. Championship team? Not even sure they could win it all in my dreams.

i felt like we do well with KG off the floor in the first 2 or 3 quarters. but in the 4th quarter, I think we panic a bit and KG is the anchor there.

We went up 9 with KG off the floor that one time.

not to mention that when KG and PP are on the floor, ball always defers to them whether they're playing well or not

Yeah that is really annoying. Shooters shoot but they also miss. If you're off then you're off. I don't wanna say turn down open shots but don't go out of your way to get a shot off if you know its not your night. Pierce will go 1-40 before he stopped shooting.

true. and it's not like they were bad shots.
there was a PP 3 that made me cringe, but everything else seemed makeable to me.
what do you think about the FT disparity?
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Post by: BballTim on February 20, 2013, 12:44:14 PM
Your best players are pierce and kg, two guys far past their primes. You have a team that loses its identity when KG sits. Collins and wilcox are his backups. Also, bass is your starting PF. Championship team? Not even sure they could win it all in my dreams.

i felt like we do well with KG off the floor in the first 2 or 3 quarters. but in the 4th quarter, I think we panic a bit and KG is the anchor there.

We went up 9 with KG off the floor that one time.

not to mention that when KG and PP are on the floor, ball always defers to them whether they're playing well or not

Yeah that is really annoying. Shooters shoot but they also miss. If you're off then you're off. I don't wanna say turn down open shots but don't go out of your way to get a shot off if you know its not your night. Pierce will go 1-40 before he stopped shooting.

  Otoh we've seen a fair amount of games over the years where PP sucked for 3+ quarters and then lit it up late in the game. It would be interesting to see how well his 4th quarter stats track his stats for the first 3 quarters.
Title: Re: Championship team? *Green colored goggles deactivated*
Post by: Lightskinsmurf on February 20, 2013, 12:53:05 PM
Your best players are pierce and kg, two guys far past their primes. You have a team that loses its identity when KG sits. Collins and wilcox are his backups. Also, bass is your starting PF. Championship team? Not even sure they could win it all in my dreams.

i felt like we do well with KG off the floor in the first 2 or 3 quarters. but in the 4th quarter, I think we panic a bit and KG is the anchor there.

We went up 9 with KG off the floor that one time.

not to mention that when KG and PP are on the floor, ball always defers to them whether they're playing well or not

Yeah that is really annoying. Shooters shoot but they also miss. If you're off then you're off. I don't wanna say turn down open shots but don't go out of your way to get a shot off if you know its not your night. Pierce will go 1-40 before he stopped shooting.

true. and it's not like they were bad shots.
there was a PP 3 that made me cringe, but everything else seemed makeable to me.
what do you think about the FT disparity?

Its to the point now where I no longer trust anyone on this team to make two free throws in a row. *Maybe JET* Even tho it happens  I just always expect at least one miss especially if its late in the game.
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Post by: Lightskinsmurf on February 20, 2013, 12:55:03 PM
Your best players are pierce and kg, two guys far past their primes. You have a team that loses its identity when KG sits. Collins and wilcox are his backups. Also, bass is your starting PF. Championship team? Not even sure they could win it all in my dreams.

i felt like we do well with KG off the floor in the first 2 or 3 quarters. but in the 4th quarter, I think we panic a bit and KG is the anchor there.

We went up 9 with KG off the floor that one time.

not to mention that when KG and PP are on the floor, ball always defers to them whether they're playing well or not

Yeah that is really annoying. Shooters shoot but they also miss. If you're off then you're off. I don't wanna say turn down open shots but don't go out of your way to get a shot off if you know its not your night. Pierce will go 1-40 before he stopped shooting.

  Otoh we've seen a fair amount of games over the years where PP sucked for 3+ quarters and then lit it up late in the game. It would be interesting to see how well his 4th quarter stats track his stats for the first 3 quarters.

Yeah i was going to touch on that. I mean I guess its possible for anyone to catch fire after being cold for a long period of time. Still, id rather not worry or try to get someone going when the game is hanging in the balance. If they aren't already shooting well Id rather go to someone who is.