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Around the League => Around the NBA => Topic started by: rondohondo on February 18, 2013, 01:18:20 PM
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Marreese Speights has done himself well after being acquired by the Cleveland Cavaliers. In fact, he's done so well that he might have earned himself a bigger contract than his $4.5 million player option that he can pick up following the 2012-13 season.
And that is why the Cavs might be willing to shop the 25-year-old forward. Though the rumor-mill has not had much chatter regarding Cleveland other than the talk of LeBron James' return to the Cavs come the summer of 2014, Marc Stein of ESPN reported a few weeks back that Cleveland was looking to shed some salaries. Speights could be one of them, especially if the team believes he'll become a free agent. Cleveland would attempt to ship off one or both of Omri Casspi and Daniel Gibson in a trade involving Speights.
http://cleveland.sbnation.com/cleveland-cavaliers/2013/2/18/4001338/cleveland-cavaliers-trade-rumors-2013-deadline-nba?utm_campaign=snsanalytics&utm_medium=referral&utm_source=twitter.com
Definitely would like the c's to get speights if possible, very good offense and solid rebounding for relatively cheap.
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Would like to add him as well but what would we be able to offer for him? The Cavs seem to be looking for young cheap talent or probably a first round pick. Neither of what we should be giving up for Speights. They wont want the salary of Bass.
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Would like to add him as well but what would we be able to offer for him? The Cavs seem to be looking for young cheap talent or probably a first round pick. Neither of what we should be giving up for Speights. They wont want the salary of Bass.
Maybe a three way
Bos sends: lee and filler
Bos gets : speights and gibson
Mem sends trade exception
Mem gets : lee
Cle sends : speights , gibson
Cle gets : trade exception
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Gibson and Speights for Bass! lol Cleveland wont do it but that'd be nice
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Would like to add him as well but what would we be able to offer for him? The Cavs seem to be looking for young cheap talent or probably a first round pick. Neither of what we should be giving up for Speights. They wont want the salary of Bass.
Maybe a three way
Bos sends: lee and filler
Bos gets : speights and gibson
Mem sends trade exception
Mem gets : lee
Cle sends : speights , gibson
Cle gets : trade exception
Why is it always Memphis.
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I mean if its a pure salary dump then we could look at something like this.
http://espn.go.com/nba/trademachine?tradeId=agt5h77 (http://espn.go.com/nba/trademachine?tradeId=agt5h77)
Boston trades: Bass and a second round pick
Boston gets: Speights and Casspi
Cleveland Trades: Speights and Casspi
Gets: Wesely Johnson (4 mil expiring) and draft pick
Phoenix Trades: Johnson
Gets: Bass
Cavs dump 6 mil off next years books and get a draft pick. Suns use some of their cap room to insert a veteran in Bass. Boston gets a young big man and cap relief from Casspi next season. But if Speights option doesnt kick in he might want a bigger contract.
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Only guy it would make sense to trade for Speights is Bass. And Cleveland (like the rest of the league) is not trading a friendly deal for Bass.
Can't trade Terry or Lee for him -- not enough guard depth to justify a marginal pick-up like Speights.
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Only guy it would make sense to trade for Speights is Bass. And Cleveland (like the rest of the league) is not trading a friendly deal for Bass.
Can't trade Terry or Lee for him -- not enough guard depth to justify a marginal pick-up like Speights.
Yeah the C's don't have "filler".
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Only guy it would make sense to trade for Speights is Bass. And Cleveland (like the rest of the league) is not trading a friendly deal for Bass.
Can't trade Terry or Lee for him -- not enough guard depth to justify a marginal pick-up like Speights.
From the story it sounded like the reason they would move Speights is because he might opt out. That would suggest they don't value an expiring much.
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Only guy it would make sense to trade for Speights is Bass.
Speights isn't an upgrade on Bass, so I don't think it makes sense from Boston's perspective.
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From the story it sounded like the reason they would move Speights is because he might opt out. That would suggest they don't value an expiring much.
If they want cap space for the summer of 2014, they don't want to a situation where he declines his option and they have to choose between giving him a long-term deal that decreases their future cap space or losing him for nothing.
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Only guy it would make sense to trade for Speights is Bass.
Speights isn't an upgrade on Bass, so I don't think it makes sense from Boston's perspective.
He is in my book. He's taller a better rebounder and plays the low post offensively. From what I know he's not great defensively, but Bass was thought as a poor defender before he came here as well.
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Only guy it would make sense to trade for Speights is Bass.
Speights isn't an upgrade on Bass, so I don't think it makes sense from Boston's perspective.
He is in my book. He's taller a better rebounder and plays the low post offensively. From what I know he's not great defensively, but Bass was thought as a poor defender before he came here as well.
But then we'd need another PF to stretch the floor. Not Green though
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Would like to add him as well but what would we be able to offer for him? The Cavs seem to be looking for young cheap talent or probably a first round pick. Neither of what we should be giving up for Speights. They wont want the salary of Bass.
Maybe a three way
Bos sends: lee and filler
Bos gets : speights and gibson
Mem sends trade exception
Mem gets : lee
Cle sends : speights , gibson
Cle gets : trade exception
Why is it always Memphis.
because Memphis has a trade exception and a rumored interest in Lee.
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Only guy it would make sense to trade for Speights is Bass.
Speights isn't an upgrade on Bass, so I don't think it makes sense from Boston's perspective.
Not sure many would agree with you on this one...
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Only guy it would make sense to trade for Speights is Bass.
Speights isn't an upgrade on Bass, so I don't think it makes sense from Boston's perspective.
He is in my book. He's taller a better rebounder and plays the low post offensively. From what I know he's not great defensively, but Bass was thought as a poor defender before he came here as well.
But then we'd need another PF to stretch the floor. Not Green though
Honestly how much does the floor need to be spaced when no one is in the middle? Not every guy on the floor has to be able to hit an 18-footer. If the plan was to get him and have him take 15 footers all day I wouldn't want him. Outside of Fab who never plays and Wilcox everyone on this team can shoot well enough, now we need some interior play.
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Only guy it would make sense to trade for Speights is Bass.
Speights isn't an upgrade on Bass, so I don't think it makes sense from Boston's perspective.
Not sure many would agree with you on this one...
And those people are wrong. Or at least, they are wrong in the short term, as I expect most new players to need 2-4 months to get comfortable on defense. I think it's a lateral move, that wouldn't move the team any closer to a title because you still have a huge drop-off behind the top two bigs on the team. If Speights had a couple of years left on his contract, I might feel differently. If Speights is going to decline his player option and move on, then it is a horrible trade for both teams.
Speights is a guy who I think could make this team a contender next season if the Celtics had the full MLE and used it on him. A big man rotation of KG, Bass, a healthy Sullinger, and Speights with occasional cameos by a Jason Collins type fifth big who shows up when the team needs a big body would be a perfectly acceptable situation for the team next season.