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Title: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on February 18, 2013, 11:50:23 AM
Someone has to start, right?

Let's discuss teams here. What you like about it? What you don't like about others? What are you up to with the current lineup you have?

And, discuss...
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: CelticConcourse on February 18, 2013, 11:51:36 AM
Suggestions for mine? Randolph/M. Gasol

I know I need wings... and a PG >.> at a cheap price
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on February 18, 2013, 11:52:26 AM
Suggestions for mine? Randolph/M. Gasol

I know I need wings... and a PG >.> at a cheap price

There are still a ton of solid PG's out there available. Most of them are relatively cheap. You have a solid big man foundation already.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Atzar on February 18, 2013, 11:59:23 AM
Suggestions for mine? Randolph/M. Gasol

I know I need wings... and a PG >.> at a cheap price

At the PG spot, I'd give some serious thought to the guy who already plays with those two.  Underrated, good defender, and his shooting ability gives ZBo and Gasol room to work inside.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: CelticConcourse on February 18, 2013, 12:07:19 PM
Suggestions for mine? Randolph/M. Gasol

I know I need wings... and a PG >.> at a cheap price

At the PG spot, I'd give some serious thought to the guy who already plays with those two.  Underrated, good defender, and his shooting ability gives ZBo and Gasol room to work inside.

Too much $$
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: fairweatherfan on February 18, 2013, 12:10:53 PM
Suggestions for mine? Randolph/M. Gasol

I know I need wings... and a PG >.> at a cheap price

At the PG spot, I'd give some serious thought to the guy who already plays with those two.  Underrated, good defender, and his shooting ability gives ZBo and Gasol room to work inside.

Too much $$

Then I'd say find a wing scorer you're willing to spend on - most of the cheaper PGs will still be around in the 2nd.

Or just go bananas and get a 3rd high-caliber big and just pummel teams down low, or flip one of the 3 later when options get low and teams get desperate.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Who on February 18, 2013, 12:13:37 PM
Suggestions for mine? Randolph/M. Gasol

I know I need wings... and a PG >.> at a cheap price

At the PG spot, I'd give some serious thought to the guy who already plays with those two.  Underrated, good defender, and his shooting ability gives ZBo and Gasol room to work inside.

Too much $$

Then I'd say find a wing scorer you're willing to spend on - most of the cheaper PGs will still be around in the 2nd.

Or just go bananas and get a 3rd high-caliber big and just pummel teams down low, or flip one of the 3 later when options get low and teams get desperate.

I go with wing scorer (if I were Memphis).
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: airbelinelli on February 18, 2013, 12:15:09 PM
Got a starting three of Lawson Beal and Faried. A ton of youth and cap room do I go for big players now or keep developing a young core with cap room that will win in the future
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: fairweatherfan on February 18, 2013, 12:17:33 PM
Got a starting three of Lawson Beal and Faried. A ton of youth and cap room do I go for big players now or keep developing a young core with cap room that will win in the future

I'd just go BPA as long as the BP isn't an older guy.  You'll have to spend some salary somewhere since we have a floor, but a lot of guys will drop due to being overpaid.  You've got the room to take those high $ players earlier or take cheaper guys now and scoop up some freefallers later.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on February 18, 2013, 12:18:33 PM
Chicago Bulls: After 1

PG - TBD
SG - Andre Iguodala
SF - Luol Deng
PF - TBD
C  - Joakim Noah

A lot of money tied up unfortunately.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: airbelinelli on February 18, 2013, 12:26:00 PM
Chicago Bulls: After 1

PG - TBD
SG - Andre Iguodala
SF - Luol Deng
PF - TBD
C  - Joakim Noah

A lot of money tied up unfortunately.
someone that can put the ball in the net but also isnt a liability defensively  get two of those and its scary
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Atzar on February 18, 2013, 12:28:44 PM
What do people think the new-look Washington Wizards?

Tony Parker, Pau Gasol, and Nikola Pekovic.  No current 2nd-rounder (something I'm working to rectify) but a pile of picks in the third and fourth rounds.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: BigAlTheFuture on February 18, 2013, 12:30:23 PM
Dallas Mavericks

PG: Rubio
SG: Mayo
SF: Pierce
PF: Nowitzki
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: airbelinelli on February 18, 2013, 12:33:55 PM
What do people think the new-look Washington Wizards?

Tony Parker, Pau Gasol, and Nikola Pekovic.  No current 2nd-rounder (something I'm working to rectify) but a pile of picks in the third and fourth rounds.

I would say the big thing is finding in that pile of picks you have is finding and athletic defending big man
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Who on February 18, 2013, 12:36:06 PM
Chicago Bulls: After 1

PG - TBD
SG - Andre Iguodala
SF - Luol Deng
PF - TBD
C  - Joakim Noah

A lot of money tied up unfortunately.

I am intrigued by the idea of going small with that group. Sliding Deng over to PF and Iggy to SF. Getting more jump-shooting and dribble penetration into the lineup in the process.

It could be tough getting enough offense together if going with a more conventional lineup. Anyways, just an idea. Something to consider.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: CelticConcourse on February 18, 2013, 12:36:47 PM
Chicago Bulls: After 1

PG - TBD
SG - Andre Iguodala
SF - Luol Deng
PF - TBD
C  - Joakim Noah

A lot of money tied up unfortunately.

I am intrigued by the idea of going small with that group. Sliding Deng over to PF and Iggy to SF. Getting more jump-shooting and dribble penetration into the lineup in the process.

It could be tough getting enough offense together if going with a more conventional lineup. Anyways, just an idea. Something to consider.

And getting murdered on the glass
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: airbelinelli on February 18, 2013, 12:37:36 PM
From watching Deng as a PF im not convinced thats the right way to go

Great wing defender but his offense just isnt the same in the post as it is when he plays against 3's
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: AB_Celtic on February 18, 2013, 12:38:32 PM
Milwaukee Bucks after 1

PG - Brandon Jennings
SG - Monta Ellis
SF -
PF - David Lee
C -

Looking to move one of the guards but open to suggestions beyond that.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: wdleehi on February 18, 2013, 12:41:39 PM
Warriors

PG Curry
SG Thompson
SF  Gallinari


55.88 million left to use.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Who on February 18, 2013, 12:42:06 PM
What do people think the new-look Washington Wizards?

Tony Parker, Pau Gasol, and Nikola Pekovic.  No current 2nd-rounder (something I'm working to rectify) but a pile of picks in the third and fourth rounds.

I don't like Pau Gasol and Pekovic together.

It is the same spacing issues offensively that Pau Gasol has suffered through with Dwight Howard and Andrew Bynum. Both players want the same real estate (low post touches) and Pekovic won't play away from the basket so Pau Gasol will be forced to spend an inordinate amount of time in the high post shooting jumpers. Their individual and combined lack of quickness/mobility defensively will be a negative too.

I love Pau Gasol and I fully agree that he has some top seasons left in him. I like Pekovic quite a bit too but I don't like the two of them together. I don't think they fit well.

Someone like Millsap would've been perfect for Pau Gasol and Tony Parker.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: wdleehi on February 18, 2013, 12:42:59 PM
Dallas Mavericks

PG: Rubio
SG: Mayo
SF: Pierce
PF: Nowitzki


Set up.  No need to make a big move at this point.  Just wait and grab the best dirty job big on the board.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Who on February 18, 2013, 12:44:24 PM
Dallas Mavericks

PG: Rubio
SG: Mayo
SF: Pierce
PF: Nowitzki


Set up.  No need to make a big move at this point.  Just wait and grab the best dirty job big on the board.

Needs a defensive center with quickness and mobility to protect Dirk.

No slow-footed plodders.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Who on February 18, 2013, 12:46:27 PM
Chicago Bulls: After 1

PG - TBD
SG - Andre Iguodala
SF - Luol Deng
PF - TBD
C  - Joakim Noah

A lot of money tied up unfortunately.

I am intrigued by the idea of going small with that group. Sliding Deng over to PF and Iggy to SF. Getting more jump-shooting and dribble penetration into the lineup in the process.

It could be tough getting enough offense together if going with a more conventional lineup. Anyways, just an idea. Something to consider.

And getting murdered on the glass

They would need to give up some rebounding but if they can get a large enough boost offensively, it may be worth doing so.

Luol Deng will give them a close to average rebounder at PF. Iggy is a plus rebounder. Noah is one of the best rebounders in the league. If Chicago have solid rebounders in the backcourt, they will still be a middle of the pack or better rebounding team.

They wouldn't get murdered on the boards.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: CelticConcourse on February 18, 2013, 12:47:56 PM
Chicago Bulls: After 1

PG - TBD
SG - Andre Iguodala
SF - Luol Deng
PF - TBD
C  - Joakim Noah

A lot of money tied up unfortunately.

I am intrigued by the idea of going small with that group. Sliding Deng over to PF and Iggy to SF. Getting more jump-shooting and dribble penetration into the lineup in the process.

It could be tough getting enough offense together if going with a more conventional lineup. Anyways, just an idea. Something to consider.

And getting murdered on the glass

They would need to give up some rebounding but if they can get a large enough boost offensively, it may be worth doing so.

Luol Deng will give them a close to average rebounder at PF. Iggy is a plus rebounder. Noah is one of the best rebounders in the league. If Chicago have solid rebounders in the backcourt, they will still be a middle of the pack or better rebounding team.

They wouldn't get murdered on the boards.

I don't know about Luol Deng boxing out PFs, but OK
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Atzar on February 18, 2013, 01:07:04 PM
What do people think the new-look Washington Wizards?

Tony Parker, Pau Gasol, and Nikola Pekovic.  No current 2nd-rounder (something I'm working to rectify) but a pile of picks in the third and fourth rounds.

I don't like Pau Gasol and Pekovic together.

It is the same spacing issues offensively that Pau Gasol has suffered through with Dwight Howard and Andrew Bynum. Both players want the same real estate (low post touches) and Pekovic won't play away from the basket so Pau Gasol will be forced to spend an inordinate amount of time in the high post shooting jumpers. Their individual and combined lack of quickness/mobility defensively will be a negative too.

I love Pau Gasol and I fully agree that he has some top seasons left in him. I like Pekovic quite a bit too but I don't like the two of them together. I don't think they fit well.

Someone like Millsap would've been perfect for Pau Gasol and Tony Parker.

I like Gasol playing at the PF spot a lot more than at center.  I think he lacks strength as a center and can be bullied.  That's why I wanted to pair him with a bruiser like Pek - let somebody else play bully ball so he doesn't have to. 

On offense, the low post is Gasol's territory.  I actually don't like Pekovic as much down there.  In the post, I see him as a brute-force player without a lot of skill.  I like him more as a super-garbage man - set picks, be mobile, cut, crash the glass hard.  He's an excellent offensive rebounder, and combined with Gasol's interior passing ability he'll still get his touches.  But I didn't draft him to be a low post iso kind of player. 
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: indeedproceed on February 18, 2013, 01:10:00 PM
This sucks. I've been spending my president's day watching New Girl, (hating it but the entire second season is on Hulu), and reading stuff on Liberty Ballers about Andrew Bynum.

Its kind of a weird mix between desperate optimism and attempted pragmatic desperate optimism.

http://www.libertyballers.com/2013/2/6/3939558/philadelphia-76ers-andrew-bynum-knee-injury-update

PARRRTAYYYYYYY
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: KGs Knee on February 18, 2013, 01:12:01 PM
This sucks. I've been spending my president's day watching New Girl, (hating it but the entire second season is on Hulu), and reading stuff on Liberty Ballers about Andrew Bynum.

Its kind of a weird mix between desperate optimism and attempted pragmatic desperate optimism.

http://www.libertyballers.com/2013/2/6/3939558/philadelphia-76ers-andrew-bynum-knee-injury-update

PARRRTAYYYYYYY

Not our fault you traded your 1st round pick for a chronically injured center, who likes smoochy nootchies.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on February 18, 2013, 01:13:04 PM
This sucks. I've been spending my president's day watching New Girl, (hating it but the entire second season is on Hulu), and reading stuff on Liberty Ballers about Andrew Bynum.

Its kind of a weird mix between desperate optimism and attempted pragmatic desperate optimism.

http://www.libertyballers.com/2013/2/6/3939558/philadelphia-76ers-andrew-bynum-knee-injury-update

PARRRTAYYYYYYY

Hey, New Girlnis cool. Zooey is great.

Not sure about Bynum though as to how great he is.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Who on February 18, 2013, 01:14:54 PM
What do people think the new-look Washington Wizards?

Tony Parker, Pau Gasol, and Nikola Pekovic.  No current 2nd-rounder (something I'm working to rectify) but a pile of picks in the third and fourth rounds.

I don't like Pau Gasol and Pekovic together.

It is the same spacing issues offensively that Pau Gasol has suffered through with Dwight Howard and Andrew Bynum. Both players want the same real estate (low post touches) and Pekovic won't play away from the basket so Pau Gasol will be forced to spend an inordinate amount of time in the high post shooting jumpers. Their individual and combined lack of quickness/mobility defensively will be a negative too.

I love Pau Gasol and I fully agree that he has some top seasons left in him. I like Pekovic quite a bit too but I don't like the two of them together. I don't think they fit well.

Someone like Millsap would've been perfect for Pau Gasol and Tony Parker.

I like Gasol playing at the PF spot a lot more than at center.  I think he lacks strength as a center and can be bullied.  That's why I wanted to pair him with a bruiser like Pek - let somebody else play bully ball so he doesn't have to. 

On offense, the low post is Gasol's territory.  I actually don't like Pekovic as much down there.  In the post, I see him as a brute-force player without a lot of skill.  I like him more as a super-garbage man - set picks, be mobile, cut, crash the glass hard.  He's an excellent offensive rebounder, and combined with Gasol's interior passing ability he'll still get his touches.  But I didn't draft him to be a low post iso kind of player.

I like Pau Gasol at either PF or C.

If at PF, I like Pau playing alongside a center who is comfortable in the high post. Someone who can vacate that space in the paint and allow Pau to take advantage of his post game against smaller defenders. Like Marc Gasol does for him on the Spanish National team (or for Z-Bo in Memphis).

Pekovic won't do that for Pau. He wants to be in the paint smacking people around.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Atzar on February 18, 2013, 01:18:23 PM
What do people think the new-look Washington Wizards?

Tony Parker, Pau Gasol, and Nikola Pekovic.  No current 2nd-rounder (something I'm working to rectify) but a pile of picks in the third and fourth rounds.

I don't like Pau Gasol and Pekovic together.

It is the same spacing issues offensively that Pau Gasol has suffered through with Dwight Howard and Andrew Bynum. Both players want the same real estate (low post touches) and Pekovic won't play away from the basket so Pau Gasol will be forced to spend an inordinate amount of time in the high post shooting jumpers. Their individual and combined lack of quickness/mobility defensively will be a negative too.

I love Pau Gasol and I fully agree that he has some top seasons left in him. I like Pekovic quite a bit too but I don't like the two of them together. I don't think they fit well.

Someone like Millsap would've been perfect for Pau Gasol and Tony Parker.

I like Gasol playing at the PF spot a lot more than at center.  I think he lacks strength as a center and can be bullied.  That's why I wanted to pair him with a bruiser like Pek - let somebody else play bully ball so he doesn't have to. 

On offense, the low post is Gasol's territory.  I actually don't like Pekovic as much down there.  In the post, I see him as a brute-force player without a lot of skill.  I like him more as a super-garbage man - set picks, be mobile, cut, crash the glass hard.  He's an excellent offensive rebounder, and combined with Gasol's interior passing ability he'll still get his touches.  But I didn't draft him to be a low post iso kind of player.

I like Pau Gasol at either PF or C.

If at PF, I like Pau playing alongside a center who is comfortable in the high post. Someone who can vacate that space in the paint and allow Pau to take advantage of his post game against smaller defenders. Like Marc Gasol does for him on the Spanish National team (or for Z-Bo in Memphis).

Pekovic won't do that for Pau. He wants to be in the paint smacking people around.

What about a guy like Stoudemire?  Do you think he'd fit with Pau?
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Who on February 18, 2013, 01:26:42 PM
What do people think the new-look Washington Wizards?

Tony Parker, Pau Gasol, and Nikola Pekovic.  No current 2nd-rounder (something I'm working to rectify) but a pile of picks in the third and fourth rounds.

I don't like Pau Gasol and Pekovic together.

It is the same spacing issues offensively that Pau Gasol has suffered through with Dwight Howard and Andrew Bynum. Both players want the same real estate (low post touches) and Pekovic won't play away from the basket so Pau Gasol will be forced to spend an inordinate amount of time in the high post shooting jumpers. Their individual and combined lack of quickness/mobility defensively will be a negative too.

I love Pau Gasol and I fully agree that he has some top seasons left in him. I like Pekovic quite a bit too but I don't like the two of them together. I don't think they fit well.

Someone like Millsap would've been perfect for Pau Gasol and Tony Parker.

I like Gasol playing at the PF spot a lot more than at center.  I think he lacks strength as a center and can be bullied.  That's why I wanted to pair him with a bruiser like Pek - let somebody else play bully ball so he doesn't have to. 

On offense, the low post is Gasol's territory.  I actually don't like Pekovic as much down there.  In the post, I see him as a brute-force player without a lot of skill.  I like him more as a super-garbage man - set picks, be mobile, cut, crash the glass hard.  He's an excellent offensive rebounder, and combined with Gasol's interior passing ability he'll still get his touches.  But I didn't draft him to be a low post iso kind of player.

I like Pau Gasol at either PF or C.

If at PF, I like Pau playing alongside a center who is comfortable in the high post. Someone who can vacate that space in the paint and allow Pau to take advantage of his post game against smaller defenders. Like Marc Gasol does for him on the Spanish National team (or for Z-Bo in Memphis).

Pekovic won't do that for Pau. He wants to be in the paint smacking people around.

What about a guy like Stoudemire?  Do you think he'd fit with Pau?

Yep, very well.

I also think that power forward from Indiana would work very well with Pau.

Plus, a bigger more defensive capable option, the Wizards big man who joined from Denver would also be very good alongside Pau.

All three players would be deadly in the pick and roll game with Tony Parker too.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Atzar on February 18, 2013, 01:35:11 PM
Yep, very well.

I also think that power forward from Indiana would work very well with Pau.

Plus, a bigger more defensive capable option, the Wizards big man who joined from Denver would also be very good alongside Pau.

All three players would be deadly in the pick and roll game with Tony Parker too.

Came really close to drafting that guy on the Wizards.  He has played well in limited minutes for them this year.  Ultimately, I was scared off by the fact that he can't stay on the court. 
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: CelticConcourse on February 18, 2013, 01:35:53 PM
How does this look?

PG: Greivis Vásquez (13.9ppg | 9.4apg | 4.6rpg)
$1,191,240 - $2,150,188 - $3,203,780

PF: Zach Randolph (15.6ppg | 11.5apg | 0.5bpg)
$16,500,000 - $17,800,000 - $16,500,000

C: Marc Gasol (13.8ppg | 7.8rpg | 1.7bpg)
$13,891,359 - $14,860,523 - $15,829,688   
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Atzar on February 18, 2013, 01:45:48 PM
How does this look?

PG: Greivis Vásquez (13.9ppg | 9.4apg | 4.6rpg)
$1,191,240 - $2,150,188 - $3,203,780

PF: Zach Randolph (15.6ppg | 11.5apg | 0.5bpg)
$16,500,000 - $17,800,000 - $16,500,000

C: Marc Gasol (13.8ppg | 7.8rpg | 1.7bpg)
$13,891,359 - $14,860,523 - $15,829,688

Not crazy about Vasquez.  Would have much preferred Jeff Teague, if you wanted somebody cheap (although his deal is expiring... not sure how much we're taking that into consideration).  Still think Mike Conley fits that team well and is pretty inexpensive for what he provides. 
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: CelticConcourse on February 18, 2013, 01:49:46 PM
How does this look?

PG: Greivis Vásquez (13.9ppg | 9.4apg | 4.6rpg)
$1,191,240 - $2,150,188 - $3,203,780

PF: Zach Randolph (15.6ppg | 11.5apg | 0.5bpg)
$16,500,000 - $17,800,000 - $16,500,000

C: Marc Gasol (13.8ppg | 7.8rpg | 1.7bpg)
$13,891,359 - $14,860,523 - $15,829,688

Not crazy about Vasquez.  Would have much preferred Jeff Teague, if you wanted somebody cheap (although his deal is expiring... not sure how much we're taking that into consideration).  Still think Mike Conley fits that team well and is pretty inexpensive for what he provides.

He's averaging the numbers Rondo had the year before he got $44 mil, and still has two more years on contract
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Atzar on February 18, 2013, 01:51:26 PM
How does this look?

PG: Greivis Vásquez (13.9ppg | 9.4apg | 4.6rpg)
$1,191,240 - $2,150,188 - $3,203,780

PF: Zach Randolph (15.6ppg | 11.5apg | 0.5bpg)
$16,500,000 - $17,800,000 - $16,500,000

C: Marc Gasol (13.8ppg | 7.8rpg | 1.7bpg)
$13,891,359 - $14,860,523 - $15,829,688

Not crazy about Vasquez.  Would have much preferred Jeff Teague, if you wanted somebody cheap (although his deal is expiring... not sure how much we're taking that into consideration).  Still think Mike Conley fits that team well and is pretty inexpensive for what he provides.

He's averaging the numbers Rondo had the year before he got $44 mil, and still has two more years on contract

I see him as a case of "somebody has to get the stats" on a very bad team that has been without Eric Gordon for most of the year.  14 points on 13 shots doesn't impress me.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: CelticConcourse on February 18, 2013, 01:52:45 PM
How does this look?

PG: Greivis Vásquez (13.9ppg | 9.4apg | 4.6rpg)
$1,191,240 - $2,150,188 - $3,203,780

PF: Zach Randolph (15.6ppg | 11.5apg | 0.5bpg)
$16,500,000 - $17,800,000 - $16,500,000

C: Marc Gasol (13.8ppg | 7.8rpg | 1.7bpg)
$13,891,359 - $14,860,523 - $15,829,688

Not crazy about Vasquez.  Would have much preferred Jeff Teague, if you wanted somebody cheap (although his deal is expiring... not sure how much we're taking that into consideration).  Still think Mike Conley fits that team well and is pretty inexpensive for what he provides.

He's averaging the numbers Rondo had the year before he got $44 mil, and still has two more years on contract

I see him as a case of "somebody has to get the stats" on a very bad team that has been without Eric Gordon for most of the year.  14 points on 13 shots doesn't impress me.

But he averages third most assists in the league. 9.4, he should have fun passing to Gasol and ZBo. FG% still going upwards, young player who has rising stock
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: airbelinelli on February 18, 2013, 01:54:16 PM
Not quite sold on Vasquez yet especially with the other PG's available. He wouldve been a great option had he fallen but I do think some of those numbers are just because he happens to bring the ball up and somehow NBA teams will score regardless
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Atzar on February 18, 2013, 01:55:44 PM
I see him as a case of "somebody has to get the stats" on a very bad team that has been without Eric Gordon for most of the year.  14 points on 13 shots doesn't impress me.

But he averages third most assists in the league. 9.4, he should have fun passing to Gasol and ZBo.

Except Vasquez won't be running the offense in Memphis.  The Grizzlies run much more through ZBo and Marc Gasol than they do a traditional PG.  Vasquez's passing ability is diminished on that team. 
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: CelticConcourse on February 18, 2013, 01:56:58 PM
I see him as a case of "somebody has to get the stats" on a very bad team that has been without Eric Gordon for most of the year.  14 points on 13 shots doesn't impress me.

But he averages third most assists in the league. 9.4, he should have fun passing to Gasol and ZBo.

Except Vasquez won't be running the offense in Memphis.  The Grizzlies run much more through ZBo and Marc Gasol than they do a traditional PG.  Vasquez's passing ability is diminished on that team.

Looks like we'll just have to lead the league in assisting then.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: CelticsFan9 on February 18, 2013, 01:57:44 PM
Vasquez isn't as great as his stats make him out to be.

The guy is a poor shooter, poor finisher,and a poor defender.

Bad pick for Memphis.  Way better options available at that spot.  Very disappointing.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Rondo2287 on February 18, 2013, 02:01:48 PM
PG:
SG: Batum 15.3 ppg, 5.9 Rpg, 4.9 apg
SG: Granger 18.7 ppg, 5 Rpg, 1.8 apg (11-12)
PF: Millsap  15.1 ppg, 7.4 rpg, 2.6 apg
C:  Horford  16.2 ppg, 9.8 rpg. 3.2 apg

All under 30 years old.  Love the balanced attack that these guys represent.  Also love the defense and team first mentality that these guys have.  Not too many headcases here.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: CelticsFan9 on February 18, 2013, 02:05:19 PM
PG:
SG: Batum 15.3 ppg, 5.9 Rpg, 4.9 apg
SG: Granger 18.7 ppg, 5 Rpg, 1.8 apg (11-12)
PF: Millsap  15.1 ppg, 7.4 rpg, 2.6 apg
C:  Horford  16.2 ppg, 9.8 rpg. 3.2 apg

All under 30 years old.  Love the balanced attack that these guys represent.  Also love the defense and team first mentality that these guys have.  Not too many headcases here.

The thing I like about your team is that they can play a 'blue collar' style but then produce lots of exciting highlights at the same time.

Great combo of players.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Rondo2287 on February 18, 2013, 02:14:07 PM
PG:
SG: Batum 15.3 ppg, 5.9 Rpg, 4.9 apg
SG: Granger 18.7 ppg, 5 Rpg, 1.8 apg (11-12)
PF: Millsap  15.1 ppg, 7.4 rpg, 2.6 apg
C:  Horford  16.2 ppg, 9.8 rpg. 3.2 apg

All under 30 years old.  Love the balanced attack that these guys represent.  Also love the defense and team first mentality that these guys have.  Not too many headcases here.

The thing I like about your team is that they can play a 'blue collar' style but then produce lots of exciting highlights at the same time.

Great combo of players.

Thanks, thats what I was going for since I knew I would get a top 10 player in the league.  Go for a grind it out type of game.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: KGs Knee on February 18, 2013, 02:14:20 PM
Brooklyn Nets ($83.11m)

PG:
SG: Kobe Bryant ($27.85m)- 26.8 PPG//5.3 RPG//5.6 APG//.566 TS%
SF: Kawhi Leonard ($1.81m)- 10.5 PPG//5.5 RPG//.402 3P%/.608 TS%
PF:
  C: Brook Lopez ($13.67m)- 19.0 PPG//7.4 RPG//2.2 BLK//.556 TS%

Total salary: $43.33
Remaining salary: $39.78m
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Rondo2287 on February 18, 2013, 02:15:02 PM
Brooklyn Nets ($83.11m)

PG:
SG: Kobe Bryant ($27.85m)- 26.8 PPG//5.3 RPG//5.6 APG//.566 TS%
SF: Kawhi Leonard ($1.81m)- 10.5 PPG//5.5 RPG//.402 3P%/.608 TS%
PF:
  C: Brook Lopez ($13.67m)- 19.0 PPG//7.4 RPG//2.2 BLK//.556 TS%

Total salary: $43.33
Remaining salary: $39.78m

Ha, we have roughly the same salary, you have 39 mill remaining I have 25 mill.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Rondo2287 on February 18, 2013, 02:26:12 PM
PG:
SG: Batum 15.3 ppg, 5.9 Rpg, 4.9 apg
SG: Granger 18.7 ppg, 5 Rpg, 1.8 apg (11-12)
PF: Millsap  15.1 ppg, 7.4 rpg, 2.6 apg
C:  Horford  16.2 ppg, 9.8 rpg. 3.2 apg

All under 30 years old.  Love the balanced attack that these guys represent.  Also love the defense and team first mentality that these guys have.  Not too many headcases here.

The thing I like about your team is that they can play a 'blue collar' style but then produce lots of exciting highlights at the same time.

Great combo of players.

Thanks, thats what I was going for since I knew I would get a top 10 player in the league.  Go for a grind it out type of game.

Also, the shortest player on my team so far is 6'8".  whoever is defending us will enjoy that im sure.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: airbelinelli on February 18, 2013, 02:26:35 PM
still dont truly understand this but oh well.... I guess at this point I'm more worried about getting above the cap floor but having that much extra cash must be nice
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Rondo2287 on February 18, 2013, 02:29:30 PM
still dont truly understand this but oh well.... I guess at this point I'm more worried about getting above the cap floor but having that much extra cash must be nice

What are you having trouble understanding? 
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: airbelinelli on February 18, 2013, 02:40:39 PM
I just didnt know how teams actual cap carries over into a pick two draft of players when that issue and disparity could've been fixed but i guess its just another thing to take into account when choosing keepers
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: RebusRankin on February 18, 2013, 04:58:14 PM
Portland

PG: Lillard
SG
SF
PF: David West
C: Lamarcus Aldridge

Thoughts?
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Evantime34 on February 18, 2013, 05:01:12 PM
5- Larry Sanders
4- Blake Griffin
3-
2-
1- Chris Paul
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: nickagneta on February 18, 2013, 05:18:32 PM
Lakers

PG: Deron Williams
SG:
SF:                 (Andrei Kirilenko)
PF: Andrei Kirilenko
C: Dwight Howard
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: CelticConcourse on February 18, 2013, 05:21:26 PM
5- Larry Sanders
4- Blake Griffin
3-
2-
1- Chris Paul

Needs good spot-up shooters and three-point threats for spacing

Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: CelticsFan9 on February 18, 2013, 05:24:41 PM
Wall
Bradley
Hayward
Gibson
?

Thoughts?
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: wdleehi on February 18, 2013, 05:34:45 PM
Wall
Bradley
Hayward
Gibson
?

Thoughts?


Setup to take on bad contracts to get extra 1sts.

I see the worst team in the NBA. 
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: wdleehi on February 18, 2013, 05:35:29 PM
Lakers

PG: Deron Williams
SG:
SF:                 (Andrei Kirilenko)
PF: Andrei Kirilenko
C: Dwight Howard


This year, not so much.



But boy, next year, if they bounce back and play up to their talent, watch out.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: wdleehi on February 18, 2013, 05:36:38 PM
5- Larry Sanders
4- Blake Griffin
3-
2-
1- Chris Paul


Short.


Going to be a good team because of the two keeper but I think Griffin would be better suited next to a bigger big man (though I love how Sanders is playing)
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: CelticConcourse on February 18, 2013, 05:36:48 PM
PG: Greivis Vásquez (13.9ppg | 9.4apg | 4.6rpg)
$1,191,240 - $2,150,188 - $3,203,780

SG:

SF:

PF: Zach Randolph (15.6ppg | 11.5apg | 0.5bpg)
$16,500,000 - $17,800,000 - $16,500,000

C: Marc Gasol (13.8ppg | 7.8rpg | 1.7bpg)
$13,891,359 - $14,860,523 - $15,829,688

Thoughts?
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: wdleehi on February 18, 2013, 05:38:10 PM
still dont truly understand this but oh well.... I guess at this point I'm more worried about getting above the cap floor but having that much extra cash must be nice

What are you having trouble understanding?


Can we call them the "B-Team"?



A lot of talented guys, sometimes all-stars, but no A-list talent to carry them over.  (even the Detroit team had an A-list talent who liked to play as a B star)
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: wdleehi on February 18, 2013, 05:38:48 PM
PG: Greivis Vásquez (13.9ppg | 9.4apg | 4.6rpg)
$1,191,240 - $2,150,188 - $3,203,780

SG:

SF:

PF: Zach Randolph (15.6ppg | 11.5apg | 0.5bpg)
$16,500,000 - $17,800,000 - $16,500,000

C: Marc Gasol (13.8ppg | 7.8rpg | 1.7bpg)
$13,891,359 - $14,860,523 - $15,829,688

Thoughts?


I think their actual PG would have been better.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: wdleehi on February 18, 2013, 05:39:15 PM

Warriors

PG Curry
SG Thompson
SF  Gallinari


55.88 million left to use.


Trying this one again.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: nickagneta on February 18, 2013, 05:40:06 PM
Lakers

PG: Deron Williams
SG:
SF:                 (Andrei Kirilenko)
PF: Andrei Kirilenko
C: Dwight Howard


This year, not so much.



But boy, next year, if they bounce back and play up to their talent, watch out.
Yeah, I can understand some pessimism based on the way Williams and Howard have performed this year fighting most of the year through nagging injuries, but I still wouldn't right them off come late season or playoffs as that is still months away and both could heal.

An off season without back surgery or playing in the Olympics will probably be good for both though and next year, I would expect huge things.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: CelticConcourse on February 18, 2013, 05:40:57 PM
PG: Greivis Vásquez (13.9ppg | 9.4apg | 4.6rpg)
$1,191,240 - $2,150,188 - $3,203,780

SG:

SF:

PF: Zach Randolph (15.6ppg | 11.5apg | 0.5bpg)
$16,500,000 - $17,800,000 - $16,500,000

C: Marc Gasol (13.8ppg | 7.8rpg | 1.7bpg)
$13,891,359 - $14,860,523 - $15,829,688

Thoughts?


I think their actual PG would have been better.

He can't assist or rebound nearly as well though. I can see my team leading the league in rebounding and assisting. ;D Who else should I look to add now that I have Mr. Vasquez?
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: nickagneta on February 18, 2013, 05:43:54 PM

Warriors

PG Curry
SG Thompson
SF  Gallinari


55.88 million left to use.


Trying this one again.
The shooting and long range bombing are off the chart great. The defense.......

Still, they are young and with some bigs that can rebound and defend and a bench that can score, the start of something good.

I got to tell you though, having an Avery Bradley type to start and bring Klay Thompson off the bench in the shooter/scorer/6th man role would absolutely make your back court dynamic.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: nickagneta on February 18, 2013, 05:46:53 PM
PG: Greivis Vásquez (13.9ppg | 9.4apg | 4.6rpg)
$1,191,240 - $2,150,188 - $3,203,780

SG:

SF:

PF: Zach Randolph (15.6ppg | 11.5apg | 0.5bpg)
$16,500,000 - $17,800,000 - $16,500,000

C: Marc Gasol (13.8ppg | 7.8rpg | 1.7bpg)
$13,891,359 - $14,860,523 - $15,829,688

Thoughts?


I think their actual PG would have been better.
I actually suggested this to CC before the draft started(or close to it). He wasn't liking the idea.

Say what you want but having your top three guys and keeping your familiarity with each other is huge in my book, especially if you are a title contender in real life.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: RebusRankin on February 18, 2013, 05:48:10 PM

Warriors

PG Curry
SG Thompson
SF  Gallinari


55.88 million left to use.


Trying this one again.

Amazing offense and shooting. Not sure on the D.

Would look for a low post scorer in round 2. A defensive wing soon too that could possibly start.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: KGs Knee on February 18, 2013, 05:49:29 PM
Any thoughts on my Nets?

Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: RebusRankin on February 18, 2013, 05:49:49 PM
Lakers

PG: Deron Williams
SG:
SF:                 (Andrei Kirilenko)
PF: Andrei Kirilenko
C: Dwight Howard

Dwight and Williams need to bounce back but still a solid team this year. Next year, quite possibly a deadly contender.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: TheTruthFot18 on February 18, 2013, 05:54:13 PM
OKC

Durant and Westbrook...

Sitting on the last pick but willing to use that in a trade for a big.

Any suggestions?
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: RebusRankin on February 18, 2013, 05:58:54 PM
Looking for feedback on Portland.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: wdleehi on February 18, 2013, 05:59:53 PM

Warriors

PG Curry
SG Thompson
SF  Gallinari


55.88 million left to use.


Trying this one again.

Amazing offense and shooting. Not sure on the D.

Would look for a low post scorer in round 2. A defensive wing soon too that could possibly start.

Definitely looking big.  Defensive wings can wait.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Who on February 18, 2013, 06:07:55 PM

Warriors

PG Curry
SG Thompson
SF  Gallinari


55.88 million left to use.


Trying this one again.

Why didn't you keep David Lee?
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: CelticsFan9 on February 18, 2013, 06:12:02 PM
Wall
Bradley
Hayward
Gibson
?

Thoughts?


Setup to take on bad contracts to get extra 1sts.

I see the worst team in the NBA.

I'm rebuilding big time, so I'm glad you said this.

I'm banking on development from Wall and Bradley.  If they can develop jumpers, I think I can have a top backcourt.  The defense is there, no question, but offensively, we're going to struggle mightily.

Hayward and Gibson are good glue guys who bring defense.  Both are great rebounders for their positions, and if I can find a 5 who can step out and shoot the mid-range jumper, it opens up lanes for Wall to drive.

In three or four years, my team could be very, very good.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: airbelinelli on February 18, 2013, 06:13:57 PM
Thoughts on my young core
Lawson
Beal
Faried
and a ton of cap room
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: nickagneta on February 18, 2013, 06:17:12 PM
Looking for feedback on Portland.
Really like the LMA and West pairing. I know LMA plays mostly PF but I think he's big and strong enough to hold down the center position and actually has great stats as a center.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: wdleehi on February 18, 2013, 06:52:42 PM

Warriors

PG Curry
SG Thompson
SF  Gallinari


55.88 million left to use.


Trying this one again.

Why didn't you keep David Lee?


Just not a huge fan.  He plays better as a small C then a PF, but I don't like playing the small C type ball. 


Throw in his contract, I went with the good shooting, showing good improvement in his second season SG.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Celtic Fan Forever on February 18, 2013, 07:03:21 PM
Toronto Raptors:
C:
PF: Serge Ibaka $2,253,061
SF: Rudy Gay $16,460,532
SG:
PG: Kyle Lowry $5,750,000

$45.8 mil left, and the 3rd pick in each round from here on. Thoughts? Concerns? Suggestions?
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: BleedGreen1989 on February 18, 2013, 07:05:28 PM
how about mine?
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: ronaldo943 on February 18, 2013, 07:07:10 PM
how about mine?

Two rebounding machines but you will need to get some high value with those 2 second rounders
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: BleedGreen1989 on February 18, 2013, 07:10:01 PM
how about mine?

Two rebounding machines but you will need to get some high value with those 2 second rounders

looking for young assets with an eye to the future. Need a defensive wing and a decent young pg
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Edgar on February 18, 2013, 07:10:57 PM
Al Jefferson         $15,000,000
Derrick Favors        $4,753,320
Derrick Rose         $16,400,000
Pick No.2 Tomorrow   


Used 36.2
Remaining Around 37.0 or something like that
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: KCattheStripe on February 18, 2013, 07:11:17 PM
Detroit:

C: Drummond  2.3
PF: Monroe  3.2
SF: Chandler Parsons .88
SG:
PG:

64 Million in cap space.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: TheTruthFot18 on February 18, 2013, 07:14:02 PM
Detroit:

C: Drummond  2.3
PF: Monroe  3.2
SF: Chandler Parsons .88
SG:
PG:

64 Million in cap space.

So much cap room you could go back and fill it up with Agent Zero's contract
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: KGs Knee on February 18, 2013, 07:39:01 PM
Looking for feedback on Portland.

LMA and West is smooth.  Nice tandem!

Lilard is a promising young guard.  Need a wing with size, badly.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: KGs Knee on February 18, 2013, 07:45:16 PM
Detroit:

C: Drummond  2.3
PF: Monroe  3.2
SF: Chandler Parsons .88
SG:
PG:

64 Million in cap space.
I really like this as young team for the future, solid core to start with.

The problem I see potentially, is reaching the salary floor without taking on too many long-term bad contracts for mediocre players.  Probably best to find one really bad contract.

A former (Celtic/Sun/Hawk) comes to mind.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: nickagneta on February 18, 2013, 07:49:49 PM
I guess people are also putting in their salaries and cap so here goes:

Lakers

PG: Deron Williams $17.18 million
SG:
SF:
PF: Andrei Kirilenko $9.78 million
C: Dwight Howard $19.54 million

Total salary spent: $46.5 million
Cap remaining: $52.8 million


Nice, I should still be able to sign two max players, if any are left.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: KGs Knee on February 18, 2013, 07:51:16 PM
Al Jefferson         $15,000,000
Derrick Favors        $4,753,320
Derrick Rose         $16,400,000
Pick No.2 Tomorrow   


Used 36.2
Remaining Around 37.0 or something like that

Should be good, so long as Rose can be his old self.  Not sure how well Rose will work playing with bigs who seemingly lack defensive the toughness that his real-life pair do.

IDK, maybe I'm under-selling Favors as a defensive player.  Big Al sure hasn't ever seemed to bother.  These guys own the boards though, which is good for Rose, who for all his talents is more of a high-volume scorer than efficient scorer.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: nickagneta on February 18, 2013, 08:04:01 PM
Al Jefferson         $15,000,000
Derrick Favors        $4,753,320
Derrick Rose         $16,400,000
Pick No.2 Tomorrow   


Used 36.2
Remaining Around 37.0 or something like that
A healthy Rose and Jefferson, all by themselves, make this a solid team with championship aspirations next year.

Curious to see how the injury effects Rose's game though my guess is it will be minimal and by next season he will be back to his old self.

Favors has always been an enigma for me. I watched him his year in college and thought, he's got potential but...Then he got traded before he finished a year with NJ. And he's been a productive bench player but will he ever be more? I'm still not convinced he will yet. But even if he doesn't become a great PF, he will probably still be a productive one.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: CelticConcourse on February 18, 2013, 08:06:27 PM
Memphis Grizzlies
PG: Greivis Vásquez
SG: Klay Thompson
SF:
PF: Zach Randolph
C:

$50,386,600 remaining

2.11
2.15
4.15
5.15
6.15
7.15
8.11
8.15
9.15
11.15

Thoughts?
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: KGs Knee on February 18, 2013, 08:06:40 PM
I guess people are also putting in their salaries and cap so here goes:

Lakers

PG: Deron Williams $17.18 million
SG:
SF:
PF: Andrei Kirilenko $9.78 million
C: Dwight Howard $19.54 million

Total salary spent: $46.5 million
Cap remaining: $52.8 million


Nice, I should still be able to sign two max players, if any are left.

Good decision going with Kirilenko at PF.  He should be a good compliment as a stretch 4 to Dwight.  Dwight just doesn't seem to operate well with traditional PF's.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: wdleehi on February 18, 2013, 08:23:13 PM


Warriors

PG Curry
SG
SF  Gallinari
PF
C. M. Gasol


44.21 million left

Post trade opinion?
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: KGs Knee on February 18, 2013, 08:27:17 PM
No comments on my Nets roster, eh?
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: KGs Knee on February 18, 2013, 08:30:35 PM


Warriors

PG Curry
SG
SF  Gallinari
PF
C. M. Gasol


44.21 million left

Post trade opinion?

Love Gasol and Curry.  Not the biggest 'Nilo fan, but he does have amazing range on that jumper.

Overall, I like it better for certain.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: nickagneta on February 18, 2013, 08:30:59 PM


Warriors

PG Curry
SG
SF  Gallinari
PF
C. M. Gasol


44.21 million left

Post trade opinion?
You got like the third best center in the league and only gave up a mid 2nd and a guy that was probably only a high 3rd round pick...what's not to like. This team now has title aspirations.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: BleedGreen1989 on February 18, 2013, 08:32:55 PM
No comments on my Nets roster, eh?

I think Lopez and Leanard are more geared for future while Kobe needs to win like this year
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: RebusRankin on February 18, 2013, 08:35:18 PM
No comments on my Nets roster, eh?

You need to move Leonard ASAP. Portland is willing to be nice and help you out.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: wdleehi on February 18, 2013, 08:35:49 PM
No comments on my Nets roster, eh?

One bigman defender away from a great defensive team.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: ronaldo943 on February 18, 2013, 08:36:39 PM


Warriors

PG Curry
SG
SF  Gallinari
PF
C. M. Gasol


44.21 million left

Post trade opinion?
You got like the third best center in the league and only gave up a mid 2nd and a guy that was probably only a high 3rd round pick...what's not to like. This team now has title aspirations.

Well put
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: KGs Knee on February 18, 2013, 08:44:51 PM
No comments on my Nets roster, eh?

You need to move Leonard ASAP. Portland is willing to be nice and help you out.

Oh, how nice of you, thanks!

You better have plenty of Gordon Lightfoot.  Gonna need some James Taylor too!
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Rondo2287 on February 18, 2013, 08:48:26 PM
The hawks

C: Horford
Pf: Love
Sf: Granger

What do you all think?  I like it a lot better than what I started with
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: ronaldo943 on February 18, 2013, 08:50:16 PM
The hawks

C: Horford
Pf: Love
Sf: Granger

What do you all think?  I like it a lot better than what I started with

If Granger comes back with a vengeance and you get solid guards you have a beasty team now if Granger comes back with a slump then there is a problem
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: RebusRankin on February 18, 2013, 08:53:18 PM
No comments on my Nets roster, eh?

You need to move Leonard ASAP. Portland is willing to be nice and help you out.

Oh, how nice of you, thanks!

You better have plenty of Gordon Lightfoot.  Gonna need some James Taylor too!

We have it all. Kickaxe, Helix, Cory Hart, The Headpins, Nelly Furtado.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: KGs Knee on February 18, 2013, 08:55:57 PM
The hawks

C: Horford
Pf: Love
Sf: Granger

What do you all think?  I like it a lot better than what I started with

I like the moves you've made so far.  Turned, what I thought at least, was a strange mix of players into a solid front court.

Might be tough to get the right guard to pair up without a 2nd rounder, though.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: BleedGreen1989 on February 18, 2013, 08:57:12 PM
Post-trade?
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: ronaldo943 on February 18, 2013, 09:00:04 PM
Post-trade?

No star power but Vucevic does have potential to be a star just not now
maybe you can build a team like the Nuggets
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: KGs Knee on February 18, 2013, 09:02:22 PM
No comments on my Nets roster, eh?

You need to move Leonard ASAP. Portland is willing to be nice and help you out.

Oh, how nice of you, thanks!

You better have plenty of Gordon Lightfoot.  Gonna need some James Taylor too!

We have it all. Kickaxe, Helix, Cory Hart, The Headpins, Nelly Furtado.

I fart in your general direction
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: nickagneta on February 18, 2013, 09:03:19 PM
No comments on my Nets roster, eh?

I think Lopez and Leanard are more geared for future while Kobe needs to win like this year
I understand this but its not like Leonard and Lopez haven't been playing second and third bananas on title contending teams all year. I think Leonard probably more of a 4th or 5th banana but still he has playoff experience and experience playing with superduperstars.

I hate Kobe and think he is a cancer on a team that eventually manifests itself(yes a worse cancer than Howard or Williams) and I also think he has played in his last Finals.

I just think Kobe has gone so over the top in pursuit of MJ's 6 titles that he is becoming more of a liability for any franchise than he is an asset. His demeaning of team mates, calling them out, jacking up 30 shots a game and then making sure he proves he isn't a ball hog by going out and making sure he is leading his team in assists for a week has made him a disaster to put a team together with, IMHO.

Still, the Nets will be very good and title contenders.

Get someone who can rebound though. Lopez is a horrid rebounder for his size.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: KGs Knee on February 18, 2013, 09:45:52 PM
I hate Kobe and think he is a cancer on a team that eventually manifests itself(yes a worse cancer than Howard or Williams) and I also think he has played in his last Finals.

I just think Kobe has gone so over the top in pursuit of MJ's 6 titles that he is becoming more of a liability for any franchise than he is an asset. His demeaning of team mates, calling them out, jacking up 30 shots a game and then making sure he proves he isn't a ball hog by going out and making sure he is leading his team in assists for a week has made him a disaster to put a team together with, IMHO.

You know, I don't personally care for Kobe's attitude at times either, but, MJ was a jerk too.  MJ just was more discreet about it.

It's not as if Kobe is going around calling out players that don't deserve it (here's looking at you DWIGHT!)
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: RebusRankin on February 18, 2013, 10:05:30 PM
No comments on my Nets roster, eh?

You need to move Leonard ASAP. Portland is willing to be nice and help you out.

Oh, how nice of you, thanks!

You better have plenty of Gordon Lightfoot.  Gonna need some James Taylor too!

We have it all. Kickaxe, Helix, Cory Hart, The Headpins, Nelly Furtado.

I fart in your general direction

Fine, we'll send you some Tea Party, Some Our Lady Peace, Some Moist and Some I Mother Earth. Plus a signed 1981/82 Opeche Dalw Hawerchuk rookie card.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: KGs Knee on February 18, 2013, 10:26:41 PM
No comments on my Nets roster, eh?

You need to move Leonard ASAP. Portland is willing to be nice and help you out.

Oh, how nice of you, thanks!

You better have plenty of Gordon Lightfoot.  Gonna need some James Taylor too!

We have it all. Kickaxe, Helix, Cory Hart, The Headpins, Nelly Furtado.

I fart in your general direction

Fine, we'll send you some Tea Party, Some Our Lady Peace, Some Moist and Some I Mother Earth. Plus a signed 1981/82 Opeche Dalw Hawerchuk rookie card.

Don't you mean "Dale" Hawerchuk?  :P

Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: BigAlTheFuture on February 18, 2013, 10:31:48 PM


Warriors

PG Curry
SG
SF  Gallinari
PF
C. M. Gasol


44.21 million left

Post trade opinion?

Digging the Curry/Gasol tandem. I think Gallinari would be a great second option to Curry. Really like this team.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: CelticConcourse on February 18, 2013, 10:33:08 PM
maybe you can build a team like the Nuggets

Jrue Holiday and Josh Smith doesn't seem like a formidable duo at all
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: ronaldo943 on February 18, 2013, 10:34:44 PM
maybe you can build a team like the Nuggets

Jrue Holiday and Josh Smith doesn't seem like a formidable duo at all

#HatersGonnaHate ;D
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: ronaldo943 on February 18, 2013, 10:42:34 PM


Warriors

PG Curry
SG
SF  Gallinari
PF
C. M. Gasol


44.21 million left

Post trade opinion?
You got like the third best center in the league and only gave up a mid 2nd and a guy that was probably only a high 3rd round pick...what's not to like. This team now has title aspirations.

Yea this team can be a title contender
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: KCattheStripe on February 18, 2013, 10:43:53 PM
Does your team have a SF who looks like a young Matthew Lillard?

(http://www.nba.com/rockets/sites/rockets/files/cphair.jpg)

No. No, it doesn't.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: CelticConcourse on February 18, 2013, 10:45:33 PM
Greivis Vasquez (top-5 passer)/ Klay Thompson (top-5 3P shooter)/ Zach Randolph (top-5 rebounder)

Contender?
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: KCattheStripe on February 18, 2013, 10:46:43 PM
Greivis Vasquez (top-5 passer)/ Klay Thompson (top-5 3P shooter)/ Zach Randolph (top-5 rebounder)

Contender?


Nope.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: ronaldo943 on February 18, 2013, 10:47:19 PM
Greivis Vasquez (top-5 passer)/ Klay Thompson (top-5 3P shooter)/ Zach Randolph (top-5 rebounder)

Contender?

Easily a top 5 team right now
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: indeedproceed on February 18, 2013, 10:48:20 PM
Does your team have a SF who looks like a young Matthew Lillard?

(http://www.nba.com/rockets/sites/rockets/files/cphair.jpg)

No. No, it doesn't.

My lawyers should have already been in contact with your people re: you biting my style in two straight drafts.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: CelticConcourse on February 18, 2013, 10:48:57 PM
Greivis Vasquez (top-5 passer)/ Klay Thompson (top-5 3P shooter)/ Zach Randolph (top-5 rebounder)

Contender?

Easily a top 5 team right now

I agree, Mr. Ronaldo.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: KCattheStripe on February 18, 2013, 10:49:39 PM
Does your team have a SF who looks like a young Matthew Lillard?

(http://www.nba.com/rockets/sites/rockets/files/cphair.jpg)

No. No, it doesn't.

My lawyers should have already been in contact with your people re: you biting my style in two straight drafts.

Feel free to grab yourself a quality 2 Guard, but I feel like Nick's gonna beat you to him.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: indeedproceed on February 18, 2013, 10:50:32 PM
Greivis Vasquez (top-5 passer)/ Klay Thompson (top-5 3P shooter)/ Zach Randolph (top-5 rebounder)

Contender?


Nope.

Agree.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: CelticConcourse on February 18, 2013, 10:51:30 PM
Greivis Vasquez (top-5 passer)/ Klay Thompson (top-5 3P shooter)/ Zach Randolph (top-5 rebounder)

Contender?


Nope.

Agree.

Elaborate plz
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: BigAlTheFuture on February 18, 2013, 10:55:49 PM
Greivis Vasquez (top-5 passer)/ Klay Thompson (top-5 3P shooter)/ Zach Randolph (top-5 rebounder)

Contender?


Nope.

Agree.

I also don't think this team is a contender. Good stats, sure. Don't know if a team built around Thompson-Vasquez-Randolph is a playoff team, though.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: KCattheStripe on February 18, 2013, 10:56:07 PM
Greivis Vasquez (top-5 passer)/ Klay Thompson (top-5 3P shooter)/ Zach Randolph (top-5 rebounder)

Contender?


Nope.

Agree.

Elaborate plz


Your players aren't good enough. When ZBo made the 2nd roundm it was two years ago and Marc Gasol was the 2nd best player on the team. Gasol is significantly better than both Vasquez and Thompson.  Conley Jr. is arguably a better PG than Vasquez and that Memphis team's defense was far better than what you can create now.

Also, that was two years ago and ZBo has regressed.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: RebusRankin on February 18, 2013, 10:57:32 PM
Top 5? How many teams are there? I kid. Here have a box of timbits.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: CelticConcourse on February 18, 2013, 10:58:49 PM
Greivis Vasquez (top-5 passer)/ Klay Thompson (top-5 3P shooter)/ Zach Randolph (top-5 rebounder)

Contender?


Nope.

Agree.

Elaborate plz


Your players aren't good enough. When ZBo made the 2nd roundm it was two years ago and Marc Gasol was the 2nd best player on the team. Gasol is significantly better than both Vasquez and Thompson.  Conley Jr. is arguably a better PG than Vasquez and that Memphis team's defense was far better than what you can create now.

Also, that was two years ago and ZBo has regressed.

ZBo is still a top-5 (if not top-3) rebounder in the league still, right? Klay would start on nearly every team in the league. 16.4 ppg in year 2. Greivis is more of an assisting PG than Conley, which can get the rest of the players going. His rebounding prowess is just a plus. Fits way better than Conley, seeing as I'm not going for a defensive stalwart, but an offensive juggernaut.

"If it doesn't go in the first time, it'll go in the second time."
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: indeedproceed on February 18, 2013, 11:02:51 PM
Greivis Vasquez (top-5 passer)/ Klay Thompson (top-5 3P shooter)/ Zach Randolph (top-5 rebounder)

Contender?


Nope.

Agree.

Elaborate plz

Greivis Vasquez is an undeniably talented point guard, but I don't think he's better than the actual point guard Randolph's been playing with. A lot of the success the Griz enjoy is because of the underrated defense that Gasol provides, and the overwhelming defense they enjoy on the perimeter. On top of that Gasol is an extremely talented passer.

You've lost that defense, and won't get it back (there are only a handful of centers on Gasol's level defensively), and to my eyes you've lost the defensive edge on the perimeter and downgraded the talent of your point guard.

You can maybe recover with the picks coming up, but it's going to require lots of savvy and some luck.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on February 18, 2013, 11:04:27 PM
Greivis Vasquez (top-5 passer)/ Klay Thompson (top-5 3P shooter)/ Zach Randolph (top-5 rebounder)

Contender?

Easily a top 5 team right now

I agree, Mr. Ronaldo.

This team will get shut down by Chicago. Just saying.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: KCattheStripe on February 18, 2013, 11:04:37 PM
Greivis Vasquez (top-5 passer)/ Klay Thompson (top-5 3P shooter)/ Zach Randolph (top-5 rebounder)

Contender?


Nope.

Agree.

Elaborate plz


Your players aren't good enough. When ZBo made the 2nd roundm it was two years ago and Marc Gasol was the 2nd best player on the team. Gasol is significantly better than both Vasquez and Thompson.  Conley Jr. is arguably a better PG than Vasquez and that Memphis team's defense was far better than what you can create now.

Also, that was two years ago and ZBo has regressed.

ZBo is still a top-5 (if not top-3) rebounder in the league still, right? Klay would start on nearly every team in the league. 16.4 ppg in year 2. Greivis is more of an assisting PG than Conley, which can get the rest of the players going. His rebounding prowess is just a plus. Fits way better than Conley, seeing as I'm not going for a defensive stalwart, but an offensive juggernaut.

"If it doesn't go in the first time, it'll go in the second time."

You need a team with ZBo to have the players to cover for him defensively.  Thompson is a good player, but he's not a number 2 on a contender. For example the 2nd option on the two teams in the finals last year were Dwyane Wade and Russell Westbrook. He's not that good. And fwiw, Vasquez was on that Grizzlies team and was shipped out because he wasn't as good as Conley.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: nickagneta on February 18, 2013, 11:06:05 PM
Does your team have a SF who looks like a young Matthew Lillard?

(http://www.nba.com/rockets/sites/rockets/files/cphair.jpg)

No. No, it doesn't.
I don't have a player that looks like Lillard but I have one that looks like Dolph Lungren

(http://www.deseretnews.com/images/article/midres/85350/85350.jpg)

And yes, I plan on stealing IP's SG.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: KCattheStripe on February 18, 2013, 11:07:07 PM
Does your team have a SF who looks like a young Matthew Lillard?

(http://www.nba.com/rockets/sites/rockets/files/cphair.jpg)

No. No, it doesn't.
I don't have a player that looks like Lillard but I have one that looks like Dolph Lungren

(http://www.deseretnews.com/images/article/midres/85350/85350.jpg)

And yes, I plan on stealing IP's SG.

(http://img3.etsystatic.com/002/0/5989871/il_fullxfull.371154995_9owc.jpg)
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: BigAlTheFuture on February 18, 2013, 11:10:48 PM
Greivis Vasquez (top-5 passer)/ Klay Thompson (top-5 3P shooter)/ Zach Randolph (top-5 rebounder)

Contender?

Easily a top 5 team right now

I agree, Mr. Ronaldo.

This team will get shut down by Chicago. Just saying.

Gotta admit. Chicago is looking like a fine team. If you find clear-cut number one option and this team could do some damage. No one is scoring on you guys though.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: CelticConcourse on February 18, 2013, 11:11:22 PM
And also, Vasquez may not have been as good as Conley at the time (they needed more PT for one or the other) but note that this year, he is in EVERY article discussing MIP. He is almost a guaranteed nominee for Most Improved... he's having a Rondo year and will only improve.

Greivis Vasquez (top-5 passer)/ Klay Thompson (top-5 3P shooter)/ Zach Randolph (top-5 rebounder)

Contender?

Easily a top 5 team right now

I agree, Mr. Ronaldo.

This team will get shut down by Chicago. Just saying.

Gotta admit. Chicago is looking like a fine team. If you find clear-cut number one option and this team could do some damage. No one is scoring on you guys though.

Joakim Noah at Center can't stop ZBo at PF even. If I get the Center I want in round 2, it'll be second chance points galore for this team. Plus rebounders everywhere.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: KCattheStripe on February 18, 2013, 11:12:13 PM
And also, Vasquez may not have been as good as Conley at the time (they needed more PT for one or the other) but note that this year, he is in EVERY article discussing MIP. He is almost a guaranteed nominee for Most Improved... he's having a Rondo year and will only improve.

Rondo and Zbo wouldn't make a contender either.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: CelticConcourse on February 18, 2013, 11:13:23 PM
And also, Vasquez may not have been as good as Conley at the time (they needed more PT for one or the other) but note that this year, he is in EVERY article discussing MIP. He is almost a guaranteed nominee for Most Improved... he's having a Rondo year and will only improve.

Rondo and Zbo wouldn't make a contender either.

It would with the right pieces. Dominant PG and dominant PF, you just need the right role players.

Klay is definitely one.
Let's see what I can do with two second-rounders
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: nickagneta on February 18, 2013, 11:23:31 PM
Nothing personal CC, but I hate that phrase that "player X has gotten better to the point he is playing at X level and because he is young, he will only improve".

Hate that with a passion because after watching NBA basketball for 30 years I can tell you players are never guaranteed to improve. They are not supposed to improve. They don't always keep improving because they have already.

Lots of times players plateau. Even more often they regress. And given changes in the team the may play with, their attitude at reaching a certain level, or injuries sometimes they just disappear into obscurity.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Atzar on February 18, 2013, 11:26:11 PM
A Washington front office executive was just seen leaving the GM's office grumbling angrily to himself.  He declined comment, but among his mutterings were the words "...batty old man can't make up his [bleep]ing mind."  Take that how you will.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: CelticConcourse on February 18, 2013, 11:28:05 PM
Nothing personal CC, but I hate that phrase that "player X has gotten better to the point he is playing at X level and because he is young, he will only improve".

Hate that with a passion because after watching NBA basketball for 30 years I can tell you players are never guaranteed to improve. They are not supposed to improve. They don't always keep improving because they have already.

Lots of times players plateau. Even more often they regress. And given changes in the team the may play with, their attitude at reaching a certain level, or injuries sometimes they just disappear into obscurity.

Sorry for using it.

But I think Vasquez surely is a Most Improved Player nominee, look at that huge jump from last year. I doubt his attitude changes, seeing as he's always been a good guy. Injuries are unpredictable, and you really can't worry about them, because they're gonna happen when they happen. Even if Vasquez plateaus, a 13/10/5 PG is a great deal for $1.3mil a year. If he improves, then this is the steal of the draft for sure.

Personally, I think he suits my team more than Conley. If I need scoring, I have Thompson. Vasquez is the passing leader on this team and if he stops shooting so much, he'll be a top-5 PG in the league (if we're looking at him the same way we look at Rondo). His plus rebounding (along with Randolph's plus rebounding) are good too ;D
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: KGs Knee on February 18, 2013, 11:38:45 PM
Nothing personal CC, but I hate that phrase that "player X has gotten better to the point he is playing at X level and because he is young, he will only improve".

Hate that with a passion because after watching NBA basketball for 30 years I can tell you players are never guaranteed to improve. They are not supposed to improve. They don't always keep improving because they have already.

Lots of times players plateau. Even more often they regress. And given changes in the team the may play with, their attitude at reaching a certain level, or injuries sometimes they just disappear into obscurity.

Sorry for using it.

But I think Vasquez surely is a Most Improved Player nominee, look at that huge jump from last year. I doubt his attitude changes, seeing as he's always been a good guy. Injuries are unpredictable, and you really can't worry about them, because they're gonna happen when they happen. Even if Vasquez plateaus, a 13/10/5 PG is a great deal for $1.3mil a year. If he improves, then this is the steal of the draft for sure.

Personally, I think he suits my team more than Conley. If I need scoring, I have Thompson. Vasquez is the passing leader on this team and if he stops shooting so much, he'll be a top-5 PG in the league (if we're looking at him the same way we look at Rondo). His plus rebounding (along with Randolph's plus rebounding) are good too ;D


Why do you insist on ignoring the advice of everyone?

Vasquez is a nice young player, Klay is even nicer.  But they are not ready for primetime.  Not by a long shot.

Randoplh will go sour quickly with a young duo like them.  It wasn't until he got major minutes and a major role on a good team that he finally shed his "lokckeroom cancer" lable.  He will probably go right back to it.

Nobody here is trying to put you down or attack you.  Just being honest.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: fairweatherfan on February 18, 2013, 11:47:18 PM
PG: Conley
SF/PF: Carmelo
C: Chandler

D on the perimeter, D in the paint, a go-to scorer who's a matchup nightmare for most teams, and another $40 mill and change to spend.  Just need a few solid role players and this team is looking good.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: KGs Knee on February 18, 2013, 11:54:42 PM
PG: Conley
SF/PF: Carmelo
C: Chandler

D on the perimeter, D in the paint, a go-to scorer who's a matchup nightmare for most teams, and another $40 mill and change to spend.  Just need a few solid role players and this team is looking good.

Need a SG to shore up that perimeter "D", but definite contender status.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: nickagneta on February 18, 2013, 11:57:23 PM
Nothing personal CC, but I hate that phrase that "player X has gotten better to the point he is playing at X level and because he is young, he will only improve".

Hate that with a passion because after watching NBA basketball for 30 years I can tell you players are never guaranteed to improve. They are not supposed to improve. They don't always keep improving because they have already.

Lots of times players plateau. Even more often they regress. And given changes in the team the may play with, their attitude at reaching a certain level, or injuries sometimes they just disappear into obscurity.

Sorry for using it.

But I think Vasquez surely is a Most Improved Player nominee, look at that huge jump from last year. I doubt his attitude changes, seeing as he's always been a good guy. Injuries are unpredictable, and you really can't worry about them, because they're gonna happen when they happen. Even if Vasquez plateaus, a 13/10/5 PG is a great deal for $1.3mil a year. If he improves, then this is the steal of the draft for sure.

Personally, I think he suits my team more than Conley. If I need scoring, I have Thompson. Vasquez is the passing leader on this team and if he stops shooting so much, he'll be a top-5 PG in the league (if we're looking at him the same way we look at Rondo). His plus rebounding (along with Randolph's plus rebounding) are good too ;D
Vasquez will never be Rondo. He doesn't have the ball handling skills, the defensive skills, the passing skills, the athleticism or the mental drive and desire.

Remember, Vasquez and Rondo are the same age. Vasquez was a four year college player. he is probably topping out throwing up stats on one of the worst teams in the league. And as we all know, players can throw up big numbers on bad teams all they want but if they aren't transforming that team into a better team with their presence, then they will probably never put up those stats on a good team and almost assuredly wouldn't on a title contending team.

Vasquez is a nice player. But he isn't a top 10 PG in the league and never will be.

Sorry man. Not trying to be harsh, just telling you like it is.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Edgar on February 18, 2013, 11:58:02 PM
Greivis Vasquez (top-5 passer)/ Klay Thompson (top-5 3P shooter)/ Zach Randolph (top-5 rebounder)

Contender?


Nope.

Agree.


without taking part and i never agree with IP i dont like the matchs that much
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: indeedproceed on February 19, 2013, 12:00:45 AM
Looking to move 2 3's for a top-5 2nd rounder and a 4th, or a 3rd and a 4th for a mid second rounder and a 5th.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: CelticConcourse on February 19, 2013, 12:16:58 AM
Why do you insist on ignoring the advice of everyone?

Vasquez is a nice young player, Klay is even nicer.  But they are not ready for primetime.  Not by a long shot.

Sorry, I'm just too stubborn for myself. :(

And I wasted a Marc Gasol for a player worse than a third rounder. -.-"
Just annoyed, sorry to anyone I offended
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on February 19, 2013, 12:31:52 PM
Chicago Bulls: After 2

PG - Andre Iguodala (yeah he's the Point)
SG - "Iso" Joe Johnson
SF - Luol Deng
PF - TBD
C  - Joakim Noah

Ton of money owed to that four alone. Took a chance on a really expensive go-to guy, but a go-to guy none the less.

But as of right now it's a contender IMO. There's a guy who can take the scoring load. Everybody is a willing passer. Rebounds are not a problem, my PG is a solid rebounder for his position. It might be owed a ton, but I like how it turned up.

Did I mention, defensively this team is tough?
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Roy H. on February 19, 2013, 12:36:29 PM
Chicago Bulls: After 2

PG - Andre Iguodala (yeah he's the Point)
SG - "Iso" Joe Johnson
SF - Luol Deng
PF - TBD
C  - Joakim Noah

Ton of money owed to that four alone. Took a chance on a really expensive go-to guy, but a go-to guy none the less. But as of right now it's a team that is willing to move the ball.

Did I mention, defensively this team is tough?

You know my thoughts.

Your Noah-Deng-AI2 core is fantastic.  It's a defensive nightmare, and should be amazing in transition.  This is the core of a very, very tough team.

I don't understand the Johnson pick.  He's lost a couple of steps, and isn't the athlete he used to be.  He's more of a half-court player now, he's a terrible defender at this stage, and he's wildly overpaid.

He just doesn't fit.  Your team needed another good big and a point guard, not Joe Johnson and his deadweight contract.  I'll be curious to see what you come up with.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Who on February 19, 2013, 12:38:07 PM
Chicago Bulls: After 2

PG - Andre Iguodala (yeah he's the Point)
SG - "Iso" Joe Johnson
SF - Luol Deng
PF - TBD
C  - Joakim Noah

Ton of money owed to that four alone. Took a chance on a really expensive go-to guy, but a go-to guy none the less.

But as of right now it's a contender IMO. There's a guy who can take the scoring load. Everybody is a willing passer. Rebounds are not a problem, my PG is a solid rebounder for his position. It might be owed a ton, but I like how it turned up.

Did I mention, defensively this team is tough?

I like your team better if you go small with Deng at PF.

I think you can have a very good team with small-ball. 
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Who on February 19, 2013, 12:39:48 PM
Chicago Bulls: After 2

PG - Andre Iguodala (yeah he's the Point)
SG - "Iso" Joe Johnson
SF - Luol Deng
PF - TBD
C  - Joakim Noah

Ton of money owed to that four alone. Took a chance on a really expensive go-to guy, but a go-to guy none the less. But as of right now it's a team that is willing to move the ball.

Did I mention, defensively this team is tough?

You know my thoughts.

Your Noah-Deng-AI2 core is fantastic.  It's a defensive nightmare, and should be amazing in transition.  This is the core of a very, very tough team.

I don't understand the Johnson pick.  He's lost a couple of steps, and isn't the athlete he used to be.  He's more of a half-court player now, he's a terrible defender at this stage, and he's wildly overpaid.

He just doesn't fit.  Your team needed another good big and a point guard, not Joe Johnson and his deadweight contract.  I'll be curious to see what you come up with.

Do you think there are any PGs or PFs out there that give Chicago the offensive boost they needed?

I don't think there was.

I think Joe Johnson was the right pick. I really like the mix Chicago has got there.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Roy H. on February 19, 2013, 12:40:25 PM
Chicago Bulls: After 2

PG - Andre Iguodala (yeah he's the Point)
SG - "Iso" Joe Johnson
SF - Luol Deng
PF - TBD
C  - Joakim Noah

Ton of money owed to that four alone. Took a chance on a really expensive go-to guy, but a go-to guy none the less. But as of right now it's a team that is willing to move the ball.

Did I mention, defensively this team is tough?

You know my thoughts.

Your Noah-Deng-AI2 core is fantastic.  It's a defensive nightmare, and should be amazing in transition.  This is the core of a very, very tough team.

I don't understand the Johnson pick.  He's lost a couple of steps, and isn't the athlete he used to be.  He's more of a half-court player now, he's a terrible defender at this stage, and he's wildly overpaid.

He just doesn't fit.  Your team needed another good big and a point guard, not Joe Johnson and his deadweight contract.  I'll be curious to see what you come up with.

Do you think there are any PGs or PFs out there that give Chicago the offensive boost they needed?

I don't think there was.

I think Joe Johnson was the right pick. I really like the mix Chicago has got there.

I would have taken Nene.

I can probably come up with several dozen ways that I'd rather allocate $18 million on a hard cap than give it to Joe Johnson.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: CelticConcourse on February 19, 2013, 12:42:12 PM
Chicago Bulls: After 2

PG - Andre Iguodala (yeah he's the Point)
SG - "Iso" Joe Johnson
SF - Luol Deng
PF - TBD
C  - Joakim Noah

Ton of money owed to that four alone. Took a chance on a really expensive go-to guy, but a go-to guy none the less. But as of right now it's a team that is willing to move the ball.

Did I mention, defensively this team is tough?

You know my thoughts.

Your Noah-Deng-AI2 core is fantastic.  It's a defensive nightmare, and should be amazing in transition.  This is the core of a very, very tough team.

I don't understand the Johnson pick.  He's lost a couple of steps, and isn't the athlete he used to be.  He's more of a half-court player now, he's a terrible defender at this stage, and he's wildly overpaid.

He just doesn't fit.  Your team needed another good big and a point guard, not Joe Johnson and his deadweight contract.  I'll be curious to see what you come up with.

Do you think there are any PGs or PFs out there that give Chicago the offensive boost they needed?

I don't think there was.

I think Joe Johnson was the right pick. I really like the mix Chicago has got there.

18 million is huge. That could be 20 players :3
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on February 19, 2013, 12:43:06 PM
Chicago Bulls: After 2

PG - Andre Iguodala (yeah he's the Point)
SG - "Iso" Joe Johnson
SF - Luol Deng
PF - TBD
C  - Joakim Noah

Ton of money owed to that four alone. Took a chance on a really expensive go-to guy, but a go-to guy none the less. But as of right now it's a team that is willing to move the ball.

Did I mention, defensively this team is tough?

You know my thoughts.

Your Noah-Deng-AI2 core is fantastic.  It's a defensive nightmare, and should be amazing in transition.  This is the core of a very, very tough team.

I don't understand the Johnson pick.  He's lost a couple of steps, and isn't the athlete he used to be.  He's more of a half-court player now, he's a terrible defender at this stage, and he's wildly overpaid.

He just doesn't fit.  Your team needed another good big and a point guard, not Joe Johnson and his deadweight contract.  I'll be curious to see what you come up with.

Reasoning behind the Johnson pick is simple. He's the best player around. AI, Deng and Noah cant score by themselves, I needed one and as bad as he's playing right now, he will still drop 17 on a bad day.

No Deron Williams in this lineup, meaning he gets the ball most on the offense, meaning he gets to the line more, which will bump up his scoring.

I disagree that he's a terrible defender. Ask Kobe.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2GPj3p3bzdM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2GPj3p3bzdM)
That clip maybe from last year I get it, and I might agree that he lost a step, but he's certainly not terrible. He's not that good anymore I get it, but terrible is selling it WAY short.

This team will lockdown any team. And now with a scorer, problem solved.

And don't tell me AI2 can't play PG, all he needs to do is cross half court. With the willingness to pass all four of these guys have in their game, ball movement is not a problem.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on February 19, 2013, 12:44:10 PM
Chicago Bulls: After 2

PG - Andre Iguodala (yeah he's the Point)
SG - "Iso" Joe Johnson
SF - Luol Deng
PF - TBD
C  - Joakim Noah

Ton of money owed to that four alone. Took a chance on a really expensive go-to guy, but a go-to guy none the less. But as of right now it's a team that is willing to move the ball.

Did I mention, defensively this team is tough?

You know my thoughts.

Your Noah-Deng-AI2 core is fantastic.  It's a defensive nightmare, and should be amazing in transition.  This is the core of a very, very tough team.

I don't understand the Johnson pick.  He's lost a couple of steps, and isn't the athlete he used to be.  He's more of a half-court player now, he's a terrible defender at this stage, and he's wildly overpaid.

He just doesn't fit.  Your team needed another good big and a point guard, not Joe Johnson and his deadweight contract.  I'll be curious to see what you come up with.

Do you think there are any PGs or PFs out there that give Chicago the offensive boost they needed?

I don't think there was.

I think Joe Johnson was the right pick. I really like the mix Chicago has got there.

I would have taken Nene.

I can probably come up with several dozen ways that I'd rather allocate $18 million on a hard cap than give it to Joe Johnson.

One of MY BOYS is going to make that PF list. I got it all covered.   ;D
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Who on February 19, 2013, 12:45:10 PM
Chicago Bulls: After 2

PG - Andre Iguodala (yeah he's the Point)
SG - "Iso" Joe Johnson
SF - Luol Deng
PF - TBD
C  - Joakim Noah

Ton of money owed to that four alone. Took a chance on a really expensive go-to guy, but a go-to guy none the less. But as of right now it's a team that is willing to move the ball.

Did I mention, defensively this team is tough?

You know my thoughts.

Your Noah-Deng-AI2 core is fantastic.  It's a defensive nightmare, and should be amazing in transition.  This is the core of a very, very tough team.

I don't understand the Johnson pick.  He's lost a couple of steps, and isn't the athlete he used to be.  He's more of a half-court player now, he's a terrible defender at this stage, and he's wildly overpaid.

He just doesn't fit.  Your team needed another good big and a point guard, not Joe Johnson and his deadweight contract.  I'll be curious to see what you come up with.

Do you think there are any PGs or PFs out there that give Chicago the offensive boost they needed?

I don't think there was.

I think Joe Johnson was the right pick. I really like the mix Chicago has got there.

I would have taken Nene.

I can probably come up with several dozen ways that I'd rather allocate $18 million on a hard cap than give it to Joe Johnson.

I don't like Nene at power forward alongside Noah and two wings like Iggy and Deng.

Not enough spacing for Nene to consistently take advantage of his post game and size advantage over opposing power forwards.

I would've have loved for Golden State to find some way to put Nene alongside Marc Gasol. I think those two would have been incredible together.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Fafnir on February 19, 2013, 12:45:11 PM
Chicago Bulls: After 2

PG - Andre Iguodala (yeah he's the Point)
SG - "Iso" Joe Johnson
SF - Luol Deng
PF - TBD
C  - Joakim Noah

Ton of money owed to that four alone. Took a chance on a really expensive go-to guy, but a go-to guy none the less. But as of right now it's a team that is willing to move the ball.

Did I mention, defensively this team is tough?

You know my thoughts.

Your Noah-Deng-AI2 core is fantastic.  It's a defensive nightmare, and should be amazing in transition.  This is the core of a very, very tough team.

I don't understand the Johnson pick.  He's lost a couple of steps, and isn't the athlete he used to be.  He's more of a half-court player now, he's a terrible defender at this stage, and he's wildly overpaid.

He just doesn't fit.  Your team needed another good big and a point guard, not Joe Johnson and his deadweight contract.  I'll be curious to see what you come up with.

Do you think there are any PGs or PFs out there that give Chicago the offensive boost they needed?

I don't think there was.

I think Joe Johnson was the right pick. I really like the mix Chicago has got there.

I would have taken Nene.

I can probably come up with several dozen ways that I'd rather allocate $18 million on a hard cap than give it to Joe Johnson.
I like Nene better as a pick, but I think Joe Johnson is being wildly undersold.

Its not like cap space has much future value in this exercise anyways. All Pick 2 players are locked to their current teams.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: nickagneta on February 19, 2013, 12:46:41 PM
Chicago Bulls: After 2

PG - Andre Iguodala (yeah he's the Point)
SG - "Iso" Joe Johnson
SF - Luol Deng
PF - TBD
C  - Joakim Noah

Ton of money owed to that four alone. Took a chance on a really expensive go-to guy, but a go-to guy none the less.

But as of right now it's a contender IMO. There's a guy who can take the scoring load. Everybody is a willing passer. Rebounds are not a problem, my PG is a solid rebounder for his position. It might be owed a ton, but I like how it turned up.

Did I mention, defensively this team is tough?
Thibs is salivating over this group. The defense will be excellent. Not sure I like the Joe Johnson as a number 1 offensive option but I am assuming he is not going to be there long term.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: CelticConcourse on February 19, 2013, 02:00:04 PM
Greivis Vasquez (10/10/5)
Klay Thompson (18ppg)
Jeff Green (20/5/5)
Zach Randolph (12/12)
Omer Asik (11/12)

That's definitely a 40+ win team at the least, no more lottery-land!
Suggestions? I really like Green at the 3 with this team.

I think the floor spacing is rather decent, the rebounding should be fantastic. I just need a strong bench, and I think this can be a contender. I also like this Randolph+Asik pairing more than Randolph+Gasol.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: airbelinelli on February 19, 2013, 02:15:34 PM
Team is now
Lawson
Beal
JJ Hickson
Notorious DMC

All young have a ton of cap flexibility  what are your thoughts?
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Who on February 19, 2013, 02:17:28 PM
Team is now
Lawson
Beal
JJ Hickson
Notorious DMC

All young have a ton of cap flexibility  what are your thoughts?

JJ Hickson and DeMarcus Cousins played badly together in Sacramento.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: AB_Celtic on February 19, 2013, 02:18:55 PM
Awaiting confirmation on a trade between Milwaukee and Portland.

Milwaukee will henceforth be known as Team 3s 'n' Boards
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on February 19, 2013, 02:24:57 PM
Greivis Vasquez (10/10/5)
Klay Thompson (18ppg)
Jeff Green (20/5/5)
Zach Randolph (12/12)
Omer Asik (11/12)

That's definitely a 40+ win team at the least, no more lottery-land!
Suggestions? I really like Green at the 3 with this team.

I think the floor spacing is rather decent, the rebounding should be fantastic. I just need a strong bench, and I think this can be a contender. I also like this Randolph+Asik pairing more than Randolph+Gasol.

I'm worried about Asik taking Z-Bo's space down low.

Other than that, it's a pretty solid team.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: CelticConcourse on February 19, 2013, 02:26:31 PM
Greivis Vasquez (10/10/5)
Klay Thompson (18ppg)
Jeff Green (20/5/5)
Zach Randolph (12/12)
Omer Asik (11/12)

That's definitely a 40+ win team at the least, no more lottery-land!
Suggestions? I really like Green at the 3 with this team.

I think the floor spacing is rather decent, the rebounding should be fantastic. I just need a strong bench, and I think this can be a contender. I also like this Randolph+Asik pairing more than Randolph+Gasol.

I'm worried about Asik taking Z-Bo's space down low.

Other than that, it's a pretty solid team.

Thanks. Could you define "solid"? I'm still looking to contend some how.

ZBo clogs space up blocking out PFs and Asik is a very, very good defensive center.

I think I need a stretch PF still though.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Who on February 19, 2013, 02:30:39 PM
Greivis Vasquez (10/10/5)
Klay Thompson (18ppg)
Jeff Green (20/5/5)
Zach Randolph (12/12)
Omer Asik (11/12)

That's definitely a 40+ win team at the least, no more lottery-land!
Suggestions? I really like Green at the 3 with this team.

I think the floor spacing is rather decent, the rebounding should be fantastic. I just need a strong bench, and I think this can be a contender. I also like this Randolph+Asik pairing more than Randolph+Gasol.

I'm worried about Asik taking Z-Bo's space down low.

Other than that, it's a pretty solid team.

Thanks. Could you define "solid"? I'm still looking to contend some how.

ZBo clogs space up blocking out PFs and Asik is a very, very good defensive center.

I think I need a stretch PF still though.

Yeah, not necessarily a stretch PF but a big man with a jump-shot.

Somebody you can turn to when you need to free up Z-Bo more in the paint.

With at least a 15-18 footer. Better again an 18-22 footer. A stretch three with legitimate three point range being king. But a solid 15-20 foot jump shot is all that is needed. Further range than that is just a bonus. 

I think the player should be a good mobile defender too. Someone who can cover quicker PFs or perimeter PFs that Randolph struggles with. A different type of defender to the big bodied Asik.

If you can get a guy who does both the defensive job and the offensive tasks, I think that would be ideal. I think the guy behind Randolph in Memphis does a good job for them defensively and offensively. He would be someone I would consider in one of the later rounds.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on February 19, 2013, 02:39:10 PM
Greivis Vasquez (10/10/5)
Klay Thompson (18ppg)
Jeff Green (20/5/5)
Zach Randolph (12/12)
Omer Asik (11/12)

That's definitely a 40+ win team at the least, no more lottery-land!
Suggestions? I really like Green at the 3 with this team.

I think the floor spacing is rather decent, the rebounding should be fantastic. I just need a strong bench, and I think this can be a contender. I also like this Randolph+Asik pairing more than Randolph+Gasol.

I'm worried about Asik taking Z-Bo's space down low.

Other than that, it's a pretty solid team.

Thanks. Could you define "solid"? I'm still looking to contend some how.

ZBo clogs space up blocking out PFs and Asik is a very, very good defensive center.

I think I need a stretch PF still though.

solid in this regard.

I think Greivis is a very good PG, but he's turnover prone, that could potentially hurt your team.

I saw a lot of Klay Thompson since I live here in the Bay, I love this kid's game. Only problem I have with him is he's not as quick, so he's not effective against quick guards defensively, but he puts in the effort so it's just a very minor setback.

Green is a very good defender, inconsistent scorer.

Z-Bo, no explanation needed.

Asik is a strong defensive Center.

You have the defense, but not so much on scoring. Klay and Z-Bo are your only reliable scorers. Your right though, this is a 40+ win team.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Atzar on February 19, 2013, 02:40:42 PM
PG:  Tony Parker
SG:  Monta Ellis
SF: 
PF:  Tristan Thompson
C:  Pau Gasol

Ideally I want Ellis as a sixth man on this team, but I'm not sure I'll be able to find starter-caliber wings this late that would allow me that luxury.  If I can't, I'll probably try to trade him because I don't like him starting alongside Parker and Gasol. 

Thompson hasn't developed his range yet, but he's becoming a versatile defender, an excellent rebounder and can put up points without having plays drawn up for him.  He also has upside, whereas everybody else on the team has already peaked. 

My primary concern for this team is spacing.  Ideally, both of my wings will be able to hit the three and defend.  I don't need them to be great scorers, just good enough shooters that they can punish defenders for helping off of them. 

Thoughts?
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: AB_Celtic on February 19, 2013, 02:44:15 PM
Turned the terrible twosome of Jennings and Monta into this:

PG: B.Jennings
SG: W.Matthews
SF: 3.12
PF: D.Lee
C: N.Pekovic

I call them Team 3s 'n' boards, because I have two great 3pt shooters and two great offensive rebounders.

I also like how my defense is developing. Matthews, Lee, and Pekovic are all known for good defense at their respective positions, and I plan on drafting some good defensive bench players at the 1 and the 3.

How's it look?
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on February 19, 2013, 02:46:51 PM
PG:  Tony Parker
SG:  Monta Ellis
SF: 
PF:  Tristan Thompson
C:  Pau Gasol

Ideally I want Ellis as a sixth man on this team, but I'm not sure I'll be able to find starter-caliber wings this late that would allow me that luxury.  If I can't, I'll probably try to trade him because I don't like him starting alongside Parker and Gasol. 

Thompson hasn't developed his range yet, but he's becoming a versatile defender, an excellent rebounder and can put up points without having plays drawn up for him.  He also has upside, whereas everybody else on the team has already peaked. 

My primary concern for this team is spacing.  Ideally, both of my wings will be able to hit the three and defend.  I don't need them to be great scorers, just good enough shooters that they can punish defenders for helping off of them. 

Thoughts?

Parker and Pau would be great on the Pick and Roll

I'm not a fan of Monta in the same lineup with Parker though. One will render the other ineffective because they kind of have similar play styles. Parker is just more crafty than a quicker Ellis, but they both command the ball.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Edgar on February 19, 2013, 02:49:32 PM
Derrick Rose,  15,000,000.00
Evan Turner,    5,250,000.00
Al Jefferson,  16,400,000.00
Derrick Favours 4,750,000.00
               41,400,000.00

Something like 30 millions in CAP Space
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on February 19, 2013, 02:49:55 PM
Turned the terrible twosome of Jennings and Monta into this:

PG: B.Jennings
SG: W.Matthews
SF: 3.12
PF: D.Lee
C: N.Pekovic

I call them Team 3s 'n' boards, because I have two great 3pt shooters and two great offensive rebounders.

I also like how my defense is developing. Matthews, Lee, and Pekovic are all known for good defense at their respective positions, and I plan on drafting some good defensive bench players at the 1 and the 3.

How's it look?

I maybe the only one here who would agree that D.Lee is a good defender, one on one on the interior at least. Lee however, is not a good help defender, so is Pek, so that can spell trouble for your bigs.

Your bigs also have no shot blocking presence. Tons of rebounding, but no shot altering presence.

Jennings is an enigma to me. He's not a good defender as well.

Wes Matthews fits with everyone, love that pick.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Atzar on February 19, 2013, 02:51:08 PM
PG:  Tony Parker
SG:  Monta Ellis
SF: 
PF:  Tristan Thompson
C:  Pau Gasol

Ideally I want Ellis as a sixth man on this team, but I'm not sure I'll be able to find starter-caliber wings this late that would allow me that luxury.  If I can't, I'll probably try to trade him because I don't like him starting alongside Parker and Gasol. 

Thompson hasn't developed his range yet, but he's becoming a versatile defender, an excellent rebounder and can put up points without having plays drawn up for him.  He also has upside, whereas everybody else on the team has already peaked. 

My primary concern for this team is spacing.  Ideally, both of my wings will be able to hit the three and defend.  I don't need them to be great scorers, just good enough shooters that they can punish defenders for helping off of them. 

Thoughts?

Parker and Pau would be great on the Pick and Roll

I'm not a fan of Monta in the same lineup with Parker though. One will render the other ineffective because they kind of have similar play styles. Parker is just more crafty than a quicker Ellis, but they both command the ball.

I agree.  That's why I want to bring Monta off the bench.  If I can't find a way to do that, I'll try to trade him for a more traditional 2 guard.  Not that he's exactly a wanted commodity around CelticsBlog, but it only takes one interested party who needs scoring.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: celticpride07 on February 19, 2013, 02:51:33 PM
SUNS

PG: Goran Dragic(7.5)
SG: Dwyane Wade(17.1)
SF: Gerald Wallace(9.88)
PF:Carlos Boozer(15)
C: Marcin Gortat(7.25)
Cap used: 56.73 Total: 70.3

Thoughts?
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on February 19, 2013, 02:53:01 PM
Derrick Rose,  15,000,000.00
Evan Turner,    5,250,000.00
Al Jefferson,  16,400,000.00
Derrick Favours 4,750,000.00
               41,400,000.00

Something like 30 millions in CAP Space

I want to say something but I'm afraid you and Roy would tag team me, so never mind.

Aren't you clogging the lanes for Rose with Favors and Jefferson together? I know Al can hit mid range J's but, he always play low post.

Roy, no TAG TEAM!!!
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: CelticConcourse on February 19, 2013, 02:54:02 PM
SUNS

PG: Goran Dragic(7.5)
SG: Dwyane Wade(17.1)
SF: Gerald Wallace(9.88)
PF:Carlos Boozer(15)
C: Marcin Gortat(7.25)
Cap used: 56.73 Total: 70.3

Thoughts?

Need a shooting wing
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: airbelinelli on February 19, 2013, 02:54:48 PM
Any thoughts on my 4 right now? What i need to get things I need to look for?
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: AB_Celtic on February 19, 2013, 02:55:30 PM
Any thoughts on my 4 right now? What i need to get things I need to look for?

I'm gonna say a small forward.

<3
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: CelticConcourse on February 19, 2013, 02:55:42 PM
Any thoughts on my 4 right now? What i need to get things I need to look for?

Change your frontcourt, they're terrible together I think. Or get one coming off the bench. Why do you not have a SF .-.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Atzar on February 19, 2013, 02:56:43 PM
Turned the terrible twosome of Jennings and Monta into this:

PG: B.Jennings
SG: W.Matthews
SF: 3.12
PF: D.Lee
C: N.Pekovic

I call them Team 3s 'n' boards, because I have two great 3pt shooters and two great offensive rebounders.

I also like how my defense is developing. Matthews, Lee, and Pekovic are all known for good defense at their respective positions, and I plan on drafting some good defensive bench players at the 1 and the 3.

How's it look?

I maybe the only one here who would agree that D.Lee is a good defender, one on one on the interior at least. Lee however, is not a good help defender, so is Pek, so that can spell trouble for your bigs.

Your bigs also have no shot blocking presence. Tons of rebounding, but no shot altering presence.

Jennings is an enigma to me. He's not a good defender as well.

Wes Matthews fits with everyone, love that pick.

Lee is a very good post defender, but is a poor help defender and gets exposed when asked to guard the perimeter.  Together with Pekovic, you have nobody who will regularly contest shots at the rim.  That could be a problem.  Having said that, you're going to have a bruising front line, and opponents will need a lot of ice packs after games against this team.  Extremely physical. 

Wesley Matthews is a very nice player, and I was hoping he'd drop to me at the 3.9. 

I'm not crazy about Jennings.  I see him as a less talented Iverson.  He's capable of some pretty explosive offensive performances, but I don't know that he can make teammates better like you'd ideally want a PG to do. 
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on February 19, 2013, 02:56:54 PM
SUNS

PG: Goran Dragic(7.5)
SG: Dwyane Wade(17.1)
SF: Gerald Wallace(9.88)
PF:Carlos Boozer(15)
C: Marcin Gortat(7.25)
Cap used: 56.73 Total: 70.3

Thoughts?

Need a shooting wing

Beat me to it.

Wallace is not consistent enough of a shooter, and plays inside. Unless Wade turns into a catch and shoot midrange to three range guy, him and Dragic plays the same way, attacking the basket. One renders the ability of the other.

Two solid shot blockers in Gortat and Crash though, I think they can hide Boozer's lack of defense.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: airbelinelli on February 19, 2013, 02:57:09 PM
Any thoughts on my 4 right now? What i need to get things I need to look for?

Change your frontcourt, they're terrible together I think. Or get one coming off the bench. Why do you not have a SF .-.

Because we havent gone through that many rounds yet....
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on February 19, 2013, 03:00:04 PM
Any thoughts on my 4 right now? What i need to get things I need to look for?

The fact that in real life Hickson and DMC didn't work together causes a concern IMO.

That's a very undersized back court as well (Lawson at 5'11" and Beal at 6'3"), that would get killed by a bigger back court (like Iso Joe and Iggy, just saying).
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: jgod213 on February 19, 2013, 03:00:15 PM
Turned the terrible twosome of Jennings and Monta into this:

PG: B.Jennings
SG: W.Matthews
SF: 3.12
PF: D.Lee
C: N.Pekovic

I call them Team 3s 'n' boards, because I have two great 3pt shooters and two great offensive rebounders.

I also like how my defense is developing. Matthews, Lee, and Pekovic are all known for good defense at their respective positions, and I plan on drafting some good defensive bench players at the 1 and the 3.

How's it look?

I like the individual parts a lot, but no so sure about the mix.  Where does the leadership come from? I get the sense that it's Jennings' show and everyone else fits in around him - which i don't like.

I do like the Pek/Lee pairing and I think Matthews is a stellar piece.  I guess I'm just not a big Jennings guy as a #1 option.
Title: Pick 2: Top 5 Teams
Post by: CelticConcourse on February 19, 2013, 03:01:01 PM
Who are they atm? ;D
Title: Re: Pick 2: Top 5 Teams
Post by: Edgar on February 19, 2013, 03:03:43 PM
As long as i remember this one was a nonvoted draft

its Jazz
Title: Re: Pick 2: Top 5 Teams
Post by: CelticConcourse on February 19, 2013, 03:04:07 PM
Bulls, Lakers, Nets are up there on my list!
Oh yea, and Memphis!
Title: Re: Pick 2: Top 5 Teams
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on February 19, 2013, 03:04:25 PM
1. Chicago
2. Does not matter
3. Does not matter
4. Does not matter
5. Does not matter

 ;D
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: indeedproceed on February 19, 2013, 03:05:26 PM
Merged the top 5 teams thread.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Fafnir on February 19, 2013, 03:06:08 PM
Merged the top 5 teams thread.
I hate you and DIACF, Mr. IP fastest merge in the Midwest.

*grumble, grumble*
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Who on February 19, 2013, 03:06:25 PM
Any thoughts on my 4 right now? What i need to get things I need to look for?

I really liked that Cousins for Faried trade. I thought that was a great bit of business. Ty Lawson is a really good starting PG too. I like the 1-2 punch there. They should play very well together.

That is a solid foundation to build the rest of your team from. A talented interior presence and a quality floor general.

I haven't seen enough of Beal so I am not sure what to make of him. I am looking forward to seeing more of him in the 2nd of the season.

I am not a fan of JJ Hickson. I would dump him.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: CelticConcourse on February 19, 2013, 03:07:57 PM
I am not a fan of JJ Hickson. I would dump him.

Bad when paired with Cuz
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: airbelinelli on February 19, 2013, 03:10:21 PM
Yea thats what im looking to do. I have some ideas still available that could really help out too.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: ronaldo943 on February 19, 2013, 03:36:32 PM
Jrue Holiday
Jamal Crawford
Kevin Martin
Josh Smith
Javale McGee


I embrace hate  :-*
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: CelticConcourse on February 19, 2013, 03:37:58 PM
Jrue Holiday
Jamal Crawford
Kevin Martin
Josh Smith
Javale McGee


I embrace hate  :-*

Kevin Martin has never played SF for an extended period of time, I don't know if that can work.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: KCattheStripe on February 19, 2013, 03:40:51 PM
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Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: ronaldo943 on February 19, 2013, 03:47:40 PM
Jrue Holiday
Jamal Crawford
Kevin Martin
Josh Smith
Javale McGee


I embrace hate  :-*

Kevin Martin has never played SF for an extended period of time, I don't know if that can work.

He wil probablyy come off the bench either him or Crawford.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: nickagneta on February 19, 2013, 04:00:56 PM
Lakers

PG: Deron Williams $17.18 million
SG: J. J. Redick $6.19 million
SF:
PF: Andrei Kirilenko $9.78 million
C: Dwight Howard $19.54 million

Total salary spent: $52.69 million
Cap remaining: $46.61 million

Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: KGs Knee on February 19, 2013, 04:14:27 PM
Brooklyn Nets

PG: George Hill ($8.00m)
SG: Kobe Bryant ($27.85m)
SF: Kawahi Leonard ($1.81m)
PF: Glaring hole ???
 C: Brook Lopez ($3.67m)

Salary Cap: $83.11m
Remaining Salary: $31.78m


So, what ya'll think?
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: StartOrien on February 19, 2013, 04:23:14 PM
Lakers

PG: Deron Williams $17.18 million
SG: J. J. Redick $6.19 million
SF:
PF: Andrei Kirilenko $9.78 million
C: Dwight Howard $19.54 million

Total salary spent: $52.69 million
Cap remaining: $46.61 million

I'm really down on Deron Williams, but I really love this team still. JJ Redick was a PERFECT selection for you. Such a difference between him and your average shooting guard for this team because of how well he shoots and passes.

Interested to see what you do with either the 3 or 4 to complete your starting lineup.  There's a young small forward who I really like
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: wdleehi on February 19, 2013, 04:23:46 PM
Brooklyn Nets

PG: George Hill ($8.00m)
SG: Kobe Bryant ($27.85m)
SF: Kawahi Leonard ($1.81m)
PF: Glaring hole ???
 C: Brook Lopez ($3.67m)

Salary Cap: $83.11m
Remaining Salary: $31.78m


So, what ya'll think?


I really wanted Glaring Hole.  Awesome defender and rebounder.



Perimeter defense is great.  Inside defense way to soft.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: indeedproceed on February 19, 2013, 04:24:00 PM
Kyrie Irving
?
?
Ryan Anderson
Andrew 'Two-face' Bynum
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: wdleehi on February 19, 2013, 04:25:53 PM
Kyrie Irving
?
?
Ryan Anderson
Andrew 'Two-face' Bynum


Is that "healthy" face and the more often "injured" face?



Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: StartOrien on February 19, 2013, 04:26:45 PM
Brooklyn Nets

PG: George Hill ($8.00m)
SG: Kobe Bryant ($27.85m)
SF: Kawahi Leonard ($1.81m)
PF: Glaring hole ???
 C: Brook Lopez ($3.67m)

Salary Cap: $83.11m
Remaining Salary: $31.78m


So, what ya'll think?

On one hand I really like your 4, on the other hand I'm nervous about your ability to fill the 4. You desperately need someone who can defend and rebound, but there isn't a ton of 'win now' options for you left.

There's a veteran left that I like, but I'm not sure how much he has left in the tank.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Who on February 19, 2013, 04:27:24 PM
Kyrie Irving
?
?
Ryan Anderson
Andrew 'Two-face' Bynum

That three man core is strong enough to be a title contender with the right supporting cast if A.Bynum can stay healthy.

Need strong defensive players in supporting cast.

All over the court (starting wings, backup bigs, backup wings) except maybe PG where I think another player who is comfortable in a PG centric offense would be more important. Someone who can create for both himself and for others.

The offensive firepower of Kyrie, A.Bynum and R.Anderson is huge.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: StartOrien on February 19, 2013, 04:28:21 PM
Kyrie Irving
?
?
Ryan Anderson
Andrew 'Two-face' Bynum

Love me some Kyrie Irving, and really like the idea of a stretch 4 on his team. I also think you're lucking out with a lot of young, swing players dropping further than I'd expect.

You also have Andrew Bynum on your team.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: AB_Celtic on February 19, 2013, 04:28:26 PM
Kyrie Irving
?
?
Ryan Anderson
Andrew 'Two-face' Bynum

He's got more than two hairstyles, that's for sure.

http://www.sportsgrid.com/nba/andrew-bynum-hair-ranking/#0
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: jgod213 on February 19, 2013, 04:30:31 PM
Brooklyn Nets

PG: George Hill ($8.00m)
SG: Kobe Bryant ($27.85m)
SF: Kawahi Leonard ($1.81m)
PF: Glaring hole ???
 C: Brook Lopez ($3.67m)

Salary Cap: $83.11m
Remaining Salary: $31.78m


So, what ya'll think?

On one hand I really like your 4, on the other hand I'm nervous about your ability to fill the 4. You desperately need someone who can defend and rebound, but there isn't a ton of 'win now' options for you left.

There's a veteran left that I like, but I'm not sure how much he has left in the tank.

I think I'm pickin up what you're layin down...

And I'm pretty sure Roy thinks he has a LOT left in the tank.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: indeedproceed on February 19, 2013, 04:31:03 PM
Kyrie Irving
?
?
Ryan Anderson
Andrew 'Two-face' Bynum


Is that "healthy" face and the more often "injured" face?

No

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/088b9250da48a9e1849b02078b184642/tumblr_mihchwLZ0h1rl88sqo1_1280.jpg)
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: wdleehi on February 19, 2013, 04:32:11 PM
Kyrie Irving
?
?
Ryan Anderson
Andrew 'Two-face' Bynum


Is that "healthy" face and the more often "injured" face?

No

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/088b9250da48a9e1849b02078b184642/tumblr_mihchwLZ0h1rl88sqo1_1280.jpg)


Side effect of years playing with Kobe.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: nickagneta on February 19, 2013, 04:32:41 PM
PG:  Tony Parker
SG:  Monta Ellis
SF: 
PF:  Tristan Thompson
C:  Pau Gasol

I know this is probably a team you are building for next year because of Gasol's injury so I will temper Gthis. I love the Parker/Gasol pairing but if you want to win now, what's up with Monta and TT?

Monta is as close to a bereft man's Allen Iverson as you can get(and that isn't a compliment). Shoots way too much, isn't efficient in his scoring, loves the ball in his hands and can't guard 2 guard.

Thompson has had a decent run for 20 games. Again, another inefficient scorer and who knows if he can do the same thing on a winning team.

I would never have made that deal that sent your pick(Ryan Anderson) to Cleveland for Thompson. Anderson would have great on that team.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Who on February 19, 2013, 04:33:37 PM
Lakers

PG: Deron Williams $17.18 million
SG: J. J. Redick $6.19 million
SF:
PF: Andrei Kirilenko $9.78 million
C: Dwight Howard $19.54 million

Total salary spent: $52.69 million
Cap remaining: $46.61 million

Pretty sure I know who you are targeting with your next pick.

If I have the right guy, I think he would fit in greatly with the type of games Redick and Kirilenko have. Give you very impressive balance overall. Four ball-handlers and well above average passers who are all strong decision makers.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: nickagneta on February 19, 2013, 04:35:37 PM
Turned the terrible twosome of Jennings and Monta into this:

PG: B.Jennings
SG: W.Matthews
SF: 3.12
PF: D.Lee
C: N.Pekovic

I call them Team 3s 'n' boards, because I have two great 3pt shooters and two great offensive rebounders.

I also like how my defense is developing. Matthews, Lee, and Pekovic are all known for good defense at their respective positions, and I plan on drafting some good defensive bench players at the 1 and the 3.

How's it look?
I really like what you did here but, honestly, I am not a huge fan of Jennings. I think there are 2-3 PGs still left to draft I would want running my team besides Jennings.(Full disclosure I has a team with Jennings once but he wasn't running the offense, that was LeBron)

But, my own preferences aside, a very solid squad thus far.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: StartOrien on February 19, 2013, 04:36:24 PM
Brooklyn Nets

PG: George Hill ($8.00m)
SG: Kobe Bryant ($27.85m)
SF: Kawahi Leonard ($1.81m)
PF: Glaring hole ???
 C: Brook Lopez ($3.67m)

Salary Cap: $83.11m
Remaining Salary: $31.78m


So, what ya'll think?

On one hand I really like your 4, on the other hand I'm nervous about your ability to fill the 4. You desperately need someone who can defend and rebound, but there isn't a ton of 'win now' options for you left.

There's a veteran left that I like, but I'm not sure how much he has left in the tank.

I think I'm pickin up what you're layin down...

And I'm pretty sure Roy thinks he has a LOT left in the tank.

You sir are correct.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: nickagneta on February 19, 2013, 04:37:53 PM
Lakers

PG: Deron Williams $17.18 million
SG: J. J. Redick $6.19 million
SF:
PF: Andrei Kirilenko $9.78 million
C: Dwight Howard $19.54 million

Total salary spent: $52.69 million
Cap remaining: $46.61 million

Pretty sure I know who you are targeting with your next pick.

If I have the right guy, I think he would fit in greatly with the type of games Redick and Kirilenko have. Give you very impressive balance overall. Four ball-handlers and well above average passers who are all strong decision makers.
I might draft a backup before I draft that SF you are thinking of as I think that SF might be around a little and if not, there's another who is a perfect fit that I know will be there later.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: sofutomygaha on February 19, 2013, 04:37:58 PM
Did you hear about what happened to all the rebounds?

my team got them.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: KCattheStripe on February 19, 2013, 04:39:25 PM
Brooklyn Nets

PG: George Hill ($8.00m)
SG: Kobe Bryant ($27.85m)
SF: Kawahi Leonard ($1.81m)
PF: Glaring hole ???
 C: Brook Lopez ($3.67m)

Salary Cap: $83.11m
Remaining Salary: $31.78m


So, what ya'll think?

On one hand I really like your 4, on the other hand I'm nervous about your ability to fill the 4. You desperately need someone who can defend and rebound, but there isn't a ton of 'win now' options for you left.

There's a veteran left that I like, but I'm not sure how much he has left in the tank.

I think I'm pickin up what you're layin down...

And I'm pretty sure Roy thinks he has a LOT left in the tank.

You sir are correct.

Is said player the best defensive frontcourt player since Bill Russell?
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: CelticConcourse on February 19, 2013, 04:39:30 PM
Did you hear about what happened to all the rebounds?

my team got them.

My team has more! And we're actually all healthy! ;D
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: nickagneta on February 19, 2013, 04:39:38 PM
Derrick Rose,  15,000,000.00
Evan Turner,    5,250,000.00
Al Jefferson,  16,400,000.00
Derrick Favours 4,750,000.00
               41,400,000.00

Something like 30 millions in CAP Space
If Rose can get back this year and this team could have actually won enough without him to make the playoffs, then, I think you are a definite title contender. I believe though that that title run would probably have to wait until next year.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: CelticConcourse on February 19, 2013, 04:41:24 PM
I wonder where I can get a jump-shooting big man.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: wdleehi on February 19, 2013, 04:41:56 PM
I wonder where I can get a jump-shooting big man.


Just look for the wiggle.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Who on February 19, 2013, 04:42:26 PM
Turned the terrible twosome of Jennings and Monta into this:

PG: B.Jennings
SG: W.Matthews
SF: 3.12
PF: D.Lee
C: N.Pekovic

I call them Team 3s 'n' boards, because I have two great 3pt shooters and two great offensive rebounders.

I also like how my defense is developing. Matthews, Lee, and Pekovic are all known for good defense at their respective positions, and I plan on drafting some good defensive bench players at the 1 and the 3.

How's it look?

I was kind of hoping you would put a defensive center alongside David Lee.

Interior defense is a concern. Lee and Pekovic are a tad slow footed. I think you need a strong defensive player with good mobility behind them.

I think that would make a difference to your team. Give it more defensive integrity. 
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: indeedproceed on February 19, 2013, 04:42:34 PM
Kyrie Irving
?
?
Ryan Anderson
Andrew 'Two-face' Bynum

That three man core is strong enough to be a title contender with the right supporting cast if A.Bynum can stay healthy.

Need strong defensive players in supporting cast.

All over the court (starting wings, backup bigs, backup wings) except maybe PG where I think another player who is comfortable in a PG centric offense would be more important. Someone who can create for both himself and for others.

The offensive firepower of Kyrie, A.Bynum and R.Anderson is huge.

Yup. My thoughts mirror this.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: StartOrien on February 19, 2013, 04:42:56 PM
Now usually I don't do this but...

Pick 2 Draft - Boston Celtics (71.6) Remaining (43.5)
C: Tim Duncan (9.6 / 10.3 / 10 play op)
PF: Kevin Garnett (11.5 / 12.4 / 12 (unguaranteed)
SF: Jared Dudley (4.2 / 4.2 / 4.2 / 4.2 eto)
SG: JR Smith (2.8 / 2.9 play op)
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: nickagneta on February 19, 2013, 04:43:44 PM
SUNS

PG: Goran Dragic(7.5)
SG: Dwyane Wade(17.1)
SF: Gerald Wallace(9.88)
PF:Carlos Boozer(15)
C: Marcin Gortat(7.25)
Cap used: 56.73 Total: 70.3

Thoughts?
Me thinks you might have a very good squad this year but the next couple years might suck as you have three players I think might be having decent size downturns in their games. Heck, Gerald Wallace is already there.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: CelticConcourse on February 19, 2013, 04:44:16 PM
Now usually I don't do this but...

Pick 2 Draft - Boston Celtics (71.6) Remaining (43.5)
C: Tim Duncan (9.6 / 10.3 / 10 play op)
PF: Kevin Garnett (11.5 / 12.4 / 12 (unguaranteed)
SF: Jared Dudley (4.2 / 4.2 / 4.2 / 4.2 eto)
SG: JR Smith (2.8 / 2.9 play op)

Probably another post player as the latter-3 are all jump-shooters I think.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Who on February 19, 2013, 04:45:27 PM
Now usually I don't do this but...

Pick 2 Draft - Boston Celtics (71.6) Remaining (43.5)
C: Tim Duncan (9.6 / 10.3 / 10 play op)
PF: Kevin Garnett (11.5 / 12.4 / 12 (unguaranteed)
SF: Jared Dudley (4.2 / 4.2 / 4.2 / 4.2 eto)
SG: JR Smith (2.8 / 2.9 play op)

In good shape. There is still a good bit of talent available at PG so you should get a good player there to round out your lineup.

I would like to see one more quality scorer off the bench if possible. It looks like you have good wiggle room financially so that should be doable.

That could be a title contender.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: sofutomygaha on February 19, 2013, 04:45:31 PM
Did you hear about what happened to all the rebounds?

my team got them.

My team has more! And we're actually all healthy! ;D

I'll concede the healthy part, but not the rebound part. I think I've got you beat at every position except PF.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Who on February 19, 2013, 04:46:16 PM
Now usually I don't do this but...

Pick 2 Draft - Boston Celtics (71.6) Remaining (43.5)
C: Tim Duncan (9.6 / 10.3 / 10 play op)
PF: Kevin Garnett (11.5 / 12.4 / 12 (unguaranteed)
SF: Jared Dudley (4.2 / 4.2 / 4.2 / 4.2 eto)
SG: JR Smith (2.8 / 2.9 play op)

Probably another post player as the latter-3 are all jump-shooters I think.

Ooh, yeah (post scorer), one guy would be perfect here.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: KCattheStripe on February 19, 2013, 04:46:33 PM
Now usually I don't do this but...

Pick 2 Draft - Boston Celtics (71.6) Remaining (43.5)
C: Tim Duncan (9.6 / 10.3 / 10 play op)
PF: Kevin Garnett (11.5 / 12.4 / 12 (unguaranteed)
SF: Jared Dudley (4.2 / 4.2 / 4.2 / 4.2 eto)
SG: JR Smith (2.8 / 2.9 play op)

Three quality players and stand up character guys and JR Smith. If the did an NBATV documentary about this team, I'd watch.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: indeedproceed on February 19, 2013, 04:47:57 PM
Now usually I don't do this but...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mP9EUEa63rM

Quote
Pick 2 Draft - Boston Celtics (71.6) Remaining (43.5)
C: Tim Duncan (9.6 / 10.3 / 10 play op)
PF: Kevin Garnett (11.5 / 12.4 / 12 (unguaranteed)
SF: Jared Dudley (4.2 / 4.2 / 4.2 / 4.2 eto)
SG: JR Smith (2.8 / 2.9 play op)

Not crazy about JR Smith, but with Tim and KG and Jared Dudley, there needs to be some crazy up in there.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: nickagneta on February 19, 2013, 04:49:33 PM
Jrue Holiday
Jamal Crawford
Kevin Martin
Josh Smith
Javale McGee


I embrace hate  :-*
Well, at least I am a fan of one of your players.

Love Jrue but the rest....yikes!!!

JaVale...headcase
Josh...multi million dollar talent and athleticism...2 dollar BBIQ
Jamal...never saw a shot he didn't love
Martin...glass be very careful when opening.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: CelticConcourse on February 19, 2013, 04:50:09 PM
Did you hear about what happened to all the rebounds?

my team got them.

My team has more! And we're actually all healthy! ;D

I'll concede the healthy part, but not the rebound part. I think I've got you beat at every position except PF.

Rajon Rondo (5.5)
Tyreke Evans (5)
Ersan Ilvasova (6)
Kenneth Faried (10)
Anderson Varejao (14)

Greivis Vasquez (4.5)
Klay Thompson (4)
Jeff Green (5.5)
Zach Randolph (11.5)
Omer Asik (11.5)

You win by a slim margin, but if Anderson's injured he can't get any rebounds! (0) And Rondo's out too, so he might as well get a (0) as well >:D
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: KCattheStripe on February 19, 2013, 04:50:22 PM
C:Andre Drummond
PF: Greg Monroe
SF: Chandler Parsons
SG:
PG: Darren Collison

Your future, we haz it.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: nickagneta on February 19, 2013, 04:50:37 PM
Brooklyn Nets

PG: George Hill ($8.00m)
SG: Kobe Bryant ($27.85m)
SF: Kawahi Leonard ($1.81m)
PF: Glaring hole ???
 C: Brook Lopez ($3.67m)

Salary Cap: $83.11m
Remaining Salary: $31.78m


So, what ya'll think?
Simple...one of the top three teams in the league

Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Who on February 19, 2013, 04:50:56 PM
SUNS

PG: Goran Dragic(7.5)
SG: Dwyane Wade(17.1)
SF: Gerald Wallace(9.88)
PF:Carlos Boozer(15)
C: Marcin Gortat(7.25)
Cap used: 56.73 Total: 70.3

Thoughts?

Need to plan your bench carefully. The contracts, I mean.

Not much room for mistakes. Low priced deals needed.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: ronaldo943 on February 19, 2013, 04:51:12 PM
LOB CITY!
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: StartOrien on February 19, 2013, 04:51:57 PM
Now usually I don't do this but...

Pick 2 Draft - Boston Celtics (71.6) Remaining (43.5)
C: Tim Duncan (9.6 / 10.3 / 10 play op)
PF: Kevin Garnett (11.5 / 12.4 / 12 (unguaranteed)
SF: Jared Dudley (4.2 / 4.2 / 4.2 / 4.2 eto)
SG: JR Smith (2.8 / 2.9 play op)

Probably another post player as the latter-3 are all jump-shooters I think.

Ooh, yeah (post scorer), one guy would be perfect here.

Thought about him, but I needed a scorer who could create a little with JR Smith. Plus, I think I'd rather get some versatility out of my first bench guy.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: nickagneta on February 19, 2013, 04:52:12 PM
Kyrie Irving
?
?
Ryan Anderson
Andrew 'Two-face' Bynum
A solid foundation. Had Bynum and Irving in last year's Pick 2, I really like the combo and Anderson is a perfect third scorer and great rebounder. Lots of work still to do.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: indeedproceed on February 19, 2013, 04:53:15 PM
Did you hear about what happened to all the rebounds?

my team got them.

My team has more! And we're actually all healthy! ;D

I'll concede the healthy part, but not the rebound part. I think I've got you beat at every position except PF.

Rajon Rondo (5.5)
Tyreke Evans (5)
Ersan Ilvasova (6)
Kenneth Faried (10)
Anderson Varejao (14)

Greivis Vasquez (4.5)
Klay Thompson (4)
Jeff Green (5.5)
Zach Randolph (11.5)
Omer Asik (11.5)

You win by a slim margin, but if Anderson's injured he can't get any rebounds! (0) And Rondo's out too, so he might as well get a (0) as well >:D

What crazy kooky universe occurs where Jeff Green is getting 5.5 rebounds per?
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: StartOrien on February 19, 2013, 04:54:42 PM
C:Andre Drummond
PF: Greg Monroe
SF: Chandler Parsons
SG:
PG: Darren Collison

Your future, we haz it.

I thought the Darren Collison pick was really poor. I can appreciate wanting to save money, but if you're going to do that, why not go with someone with a little more upside? Or spend a little extra on a proven guy on a short contract?

Love Monroe and Drummond. And Parsons will put the ladies behinds in the seats, that's for sure.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Evantime34 on February 19, 2013, 04:55:11 PM
1- Chris Paul
2- ?
3- Kyle Korver
4- Blake Griffin
5- Larry Sanders
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: StartOrien on February 19, 2013, 04:55:27 PM
Did you hear about what happened to all the rebounds?

my team got them.

My team has more! And we're actually all healthy! ;D

I'll concede the healthy part, but not the rebound part. I think I've got you beat at every position except PF.

Rajon Rondo (5.5)
Tyreke Evans (5)
Ersan Ilvasova (6)
Kenneth Faried (10)
Anderson Varejao (14)

Greivis Vasquez (4.5)
Klay Thompson (4)
Jeff Green (5.5)
Zach Randolph (11.5)
Omer Asik (11.5)

You win by a slim margin, but if Anderson's injured he can't get any rebounds! (0) And Rondo's out too, so he might as well get a (0) as well >:D

What crazy kooky universe occurs where Jeff Green is getting 5.5 rebounds per?

"Hey. Eff off" - John Hollinger
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: CelticConcourse on February 19, 2013, 04:56:48 PM
Did you hear about what happened to all the rebounds?

my team got them.

My team has more! And we're actually all healthy! ;D

I'll concede the healthy part, but not the rebound part. I think I've got you beat at every position except PF.

Rajon Rondo (5.5)
Tyreke Evans (5)
Ersan Ilvasova (6)
Kenneth Faried (10)
Anderson Varejao (14)

Greivis Vasquez (4.5)
Klay Thompson (4)
Jeff Green (5.5)
Zach Randolph (11.5)
Omer Asik (11.5)

You win by a slim margin, but if Anderson's injured he can't get any rebounds! (0) And Rondo's out too, so he might as well get a (0) as well >:D

What crazy kooky universe occurs where Jeff Green is getting 5.5 rebounds per?

His career average is 5.2 and he had 6.7 one year...
Once again you are underestimating "Mean Green"
I was being conservative!
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: indeedproceed on February 19, 2013, 04:57:29 PM
1- Chris Paul
2- ?
3- Kyle Korver
4- Blake Griffin
5- Larry Sanders

The actual guy who mans the 3 (and the 2) for the Clippers I think would've served you much better than Korver, but I'm absolutely excited about Larry Sanders growing next to Griffin. I think he might even hold them back a little this season, but I also think in a year or so he'll be the difference between fringe contender and outright contender.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: BleedGreen1989 on February 19, 2013, 04:57:51 PM
Hey guys! Pick me! Pick me!
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: indeedproceed on February 19, 2013, 04:58:24 PM
Did you hear about what happened to all the rebounds?

my team got them.

My team has more! And we're actually all healthy! ;D

I'll concede the healthy part, but not the rebound part. I think I've got you beat at every position except PF.

Rajon Rondo (5.5)
Tyreke Evans (5)
Ersan Ilvasova (6)
Kenneth Faried (10)
Anderson Varejao (14)

Greivis Vasquez (4.5)
Klay Thompson (4)
Jeff Green (5.5)
Zach Randolph (11.5)
Omer Asik (11.5)

You win by a slim margin, but if Anderson's injured he can't get any rebounds! (0) And Rondo's out too, so he might as well get a (0) as well >:D

What crazy kooky universe occurs where Jeff Green is getting 5.5 rebounds per?

His career average is 5.2 and he had 6.7 one year...
Once again you are underestimating "Mean Green"
I was being conservative!

Haha...he was playing 37 minutes a game at the power forward and giving up twice as many points as he scored! I don't think that's the El Jefe you're imagining, is it?
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: CelticConcourse on February 19, 2013, 04:59:04 PM
1- Chris Paul
2- ?
3- Kyle Korver
4- Blake Griffin
5- Larry Sanders

You might want some better-FT%-shooting bigs for clutch time!
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: nickagneta on February 19, 2013, 04:59:17 PM
Now usually I don't do this but...

Pick 2 Draft - Boston Celtics (71.6) Remaining (43.5)
C: Tim Duncan (9.6 / 10.3 / 10 play op)
PF: Kevin Garnett (11.5 / 12.4 / 12 (unguaranteed)
SF: Jared Dudley (4.2 / 4.2 / 4.2 / 4.2 eto)
SG: JR Smith (2.8 / 2.9 play op)
Garnett is going to end up kicking the ever living crap out of JR Smith after half a season of seeing Smith jack up 30 footers with 15 seconds on the shot clock, but other than that, one of the best team in the east so long as your playoff games don't go into overtime and KG and TD don't have to start playing 40 MPG.

That's the thing with having KG and TD. They are 30MPG players at best and over an extended time where they have to play more than that, I think you will start to see inconsistent production and a drop in production. For that reason, you have to get deep in the frontcourt and I would have chosen a back up big before Smith.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: CelticConcourse on February 19, 2013, 05:00:11 PM
Did you hear about what happened to all the rebounds?

my team got them.

My team has more! And we're actually all healthy! ;D

I'll concede the healthy part, but not the rebound part. I think I've got you beat at every position except PF.

Rajon Rondo (5.5)
Tyreke Evans (5)
Ersan Ilvasova (6)
Kenneth Faried (10)
Anderson Varejao (14)

Greivis Vasquez (4.5)
Klay Thompson (4)
Jeff Green (5.5)
Zach Randolph (11.5)
Omer Asik (11.5)

You win by a slim margin, but if Anderson's injured he can't get any rebounds! (0) And Rondo's out too, so he might as well get a (0) as well >:D

What crazy kooky universe occurs where Jeff Green is getting 5.5 rebounds per?

His career average is 5.2 and he had 6.7 one year...
Once again you are underestimating "Mean Green"
I was being conservative!

Haha...he was playing 37 minutes a game at the power forward and giving up twice as many points as he scored! I don't think that's the El Jefe you're imagining, is it?

He is much improved now and if he doesn't get them Omolph Zasik will get them.

Jeff is even getting 4.8 per36 right now, with the Celtics!
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: KCattheStripe on February 19, 2013, 05:01:25 PM
C:Andre Drummond
PF: Greg Monroe
SF: Chandler Parsons
SG:
PG: Darren Collison

Your future, we haz it.

I thought the Darren Collison pick was really poor. I can appreciate wanting to save money, but if you're going to do that, why not go with someone with a little more upside? Or spend a little extra on a proven guy on a short contract?

Love Monroe and Drummond. And Parsons will put the ladies behinds in the seats, that's for sure.

I saw that coming, judging by your spreadsheet. But thinking long term, I'm going to have to resign Drummond and Monroe, they're the core. So insane overspending ( see what I did there) didn't make sense for what I'm trying to do. Collison has already proven he can be a valuable cog in a playoff team that's built around it's front court. There were a couple of valuable veterans but I didn't think they were tremendously useful on this team.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: StartOrien on February 19, 2013, 05:03:41 PM
Hey guys! Pick me! Pick me!

Gotta go young with your next pick:

BPA is probably not a pure point guard, but I'd atleast consider him. If not, you've got two good, young PG options if you want to go that direction.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: sofutomygaha on February 19, 2013, 05:05:04 PM
Did you hear about what happened to all the rebounds?

my team got them.

My team has more! And we're actually all healthy! ;D

I'll concede the healthy part, but not the rebound part. I think I've got you beat at every position except PF.

Rajon Rondo (5.5)
Tyreke Evans (5)
Ersan Ilvasova (6)
Kenneth Faried (10)
Anderson Varejao (14)

Greivis Vasquez (4.5)
Klay Thompson (4)
Jeff Green (5.5)
Zach Randolph (11.5)
Omer Asik (11.5)

You win by a slim margin, but if Anderson's injured he can't get any rebounds! (0) And Rondo's out too, so he might as well get a (0) as well >:D

What crazy kooky universe occurs where Jeff Green is getting 5.5 rebounds per?

His career average is 5.2 and he had 6.7 one year...
Once again you are underestimating "Mean Green"
I was being conservative!

Haha...he was playing 37 minutes a game at the power forward and giving up twice as many points as he scored! I don't think that's the El Jefe you're imagining, is it?

He is much improved now and if he doesn't get them Omolph Zasik will get them.

Jeff is even getting 4.8 per36 right now, with the Celtics!

It won't matter, I suppose, when my team plays yours head-to-head. JG will go iso on every play and never miss, so there won't be any rebounds.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: jgod213 on February 19, 2013, 05:05:35 PM
Pacers

PG - S. Nash
SG - A. Afflalo
SF - P. George
PF -
C  - R. Hibbert

--------------

I recently realized keeping West and searching for a Hibbert replacement was probably the ideal way to go.

Tough to find those thriple threat big men who can post-up/d-up/and rebound.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: CelticConcourse on February 19, 2013, 05:06:05 PM
Did you hear about what happened to all the rebounds?

my team got them.

My team has more! And we're actually all healthy! ;D

I'll concede the healthy part, but not the rebound part. I think I've got you beat at every position except PF.

Rajon Rondo (5.5)
Tyreke Evans (5)
Ersan Ilvasova (6)
Kenneth Faried (10)
Anderson Varejao (14)

Greivis Vasquez (4.5)
Klay Thompson (4)
Jeff Green (5.5)
Zach Randolph (11.5)
Omer Asik (11.5)

You win by a slim margin, but if Anderson's injured he can't get any rebounds! (0) And Rondo's out too, so he might as well get a (0) as well >:D

What crazy kooky universe occurs where Jeff Green is getting 5.5 rebounds per?

His career average is 5.2 and he had 6.7 one year...
Once again you are underestimating "Mean Green"
I was being conservative!

Haha...he was playing 37 minutes a game at the power forward and giving up twice as many points as he scored! I don't think that's the El Jefe you're imagining, is it?

He is much improved now and if he doesn't get them Omolph Zasik will get them.

Jeff is even getting 4.8 per36 right now, with the Celtics!

It won't matter, I suppose, when my team plays yours head-to-head. JG will go iso on every play and never miss, so there won't be any rebounds.

He will. After your cruel player smashed him in the head  >:(
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTcc0P5OWMI

Ilysasova is an IlyaLOSER
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: StartOrien on February 19, 2013, 05:06:18 PM
C:Andre Drummond
PF: Greg Monroe
SF: Chandler Parsons
SG:
PG: Darren Collison

Your future, we haz it.

I thought the Darren Collison pick was really poor. I can appreciate wanting to save money, but if you're going to do that, why not go with someone with a little more upside? Or spend a little extra on a proven guy on a short contract?

Love Monroe and Drummond. And Parsons will put the ladies behinds in the seats, that's for sure.

I saw that coming, judging by your spreadsheet. But thinking long term, I'm going to have to resign Drummond and Monroe, they're the core. So insane overspending ( see what I did there) didn't make sense for what I'm trying to do. Collison has already proven he can be a valuable cog in a playoff team that's built around it's front court. There were a couple of valuable veterans but I didn't think they were tremendously useful on this team.

To be fair, I'm the king of overreacting, and I have a tendency to bury guys like Collison who've disappointed based on where I thought they'd be.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: indeedproceed on February 19, 2013, 05:07:43 PM
PG:
SG: Oj Mayo
SF: Nic Batum
PF: Paul Milsap
C:  Nikola Vucevic

I think Milsap+Vucevic=Love.

I think Batum is a good player that has likely reached his ceiling, which is a very good player, but not a top 2 player for a playoff team.

OJ Mayo I think is fools gold. Reminds me of another (undrafted) player who had a bad reputation but a great scouting report that gets handed minutes in bunches and bunches on a bad, desperate team, and puts up 20ppg and looks good doing it for at least half of those. But on a playoff team, he couldn't handle playing well with others, and couldn't tailor his game to play within the team's concept.

So yeah. OJ Mayo, not really a fan of him. He's on my 'do not draft' list.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: StartOrien on February 19, 2013, 05:09:33 PM
Pacers

PG - S. Nash
SG - A. Afflalo
SF - P. George
PF -
C  - R. Hibbert

--------------

I recently realized keeping West and searching for a Hibbert replacement was probably the ideal way to go.

Tough to find those thriple threat big men who can post-up/d-up/and rebound.

I absolutely love this team, so much fun.

Personally, I don't think Nash is cooked as much as he's not surrounded by the right guy. D'Antoni or not, he just can't run with this current cast and I think that's why he's resided to being more of a Hornacek 2-guard.

Also, I think Hibbert's a mental midget - but I think having Nash is a good thing for him. I think one of the worst things the Pacers do is force the ball into him in the post when he's just not that gifted offensively. Having Nash run the offense means that this is less likely to happen and things can come a little more naturally to him.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: ronaldo943 on February 19, 2013, 05:10:12 PM
I laugh at the people who said getting Crawford at 2.5 a reach: your 6th man of the year, crazy crossovers
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pE3CJwQONws


i dont have the flashy names but with Crawford driving to the basket, Jrue throwing alley-oops to McGee and Smith and Martin hitting the outside shot i have a pretty solid team and Crawford has had no problems with the Clips if anything all he's been getting is high praise :)
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: sofutomygaha on February 19, 2013, 05:12:17 PM
Actual rebound rates, via hollinger, copied below-

Rajon Rondo (8.8)
Tyreke Evans (8.8)
Ersan Ilvasova (13.2)
Kenneth Faried (18.3)
Anderson Varejao (23.1)

Greivis Vasquez (8.0)
Klay Thompson (6.1)
Jeff Green (7.9)
Zach Randolph (19.5)
Omer Asik (21.8)
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: CelticConcourse on February 19, 2013, 05:12:27 PM
I laugh at the people who said getting Crawford at 2.5 a reach: your 6th man of the year, crazy crossovers
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pE3CJwQONws


i dont have the flashy names but with Crawford driving to the basket, Jrue throwing alley-oops to McGee and Smith and Martin hitting the outside shot i have a pretty solid team and Crawford has had no problems with the Clips if anything all he's been getting is high praise :)

His shot selection and BBIQ overall is pretty bad.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: CelticConcourse on February 19, 2013, 05:13:10 PM
Actual rebound rates, via hollinger, copied below-

Rajon Rondo (8.8)
Tyreke Evans (8.8)
Ersan Ilvasova (13.2)
Kenneth Faried (18.3)
Anderson Varejao (23.1)

Greivis Vasquez (8.0)
Klay Thompson (6.1)
Jeff Green (7.9)
Zach Randolph (19.5)
Omer Asik (21.8)

None of this matters if you're injured and can't play (40% of your team) >:D You shalt not stop my path to the championship! (this year)
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Rondo2287 on February 19, 2013, 05:14:01 PM
I laugh at the people who said getting Crawford at 2.5 a reach: your 6th man of the year, crazy crossovers
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pE3CJwQONws


i dont have the flashy names but with Crawford driving to the basket, Jrue throwing alley-oops to McGee and Smith and Martin hitting the outside shot i have a pretty solid team and Crawford has had no problems with the Clips if anything all he's been getting is high praise :)

Crawford is good at what he does.  However I don't rate what he does something I would want to take at 2.5
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: indeedproceed on February 19, 2013, 05:14:25 PM
Did you hear about what happened to all the rebounds?

my team got them.

My team has more! And we're actually all healthy! ;D

I'll concede the healthy part, but not the rebound part. I think I've got you beat at every position except PF.

Rajon Rondo (5.5)
Tyreke Evans (5)
Ersan Ilvasova (6)
Kenneth Faried (10)
Anderson Varejao (14)

Greivis Vasquez (4.5)
Klay Thompson (4)
Jeff Green (5.5)
Zach Randolph (11.5)
Omer Asik (11.5)

You win by a slim margin, but if Anderson's injured he can't get any rebounds! (0) And Rondo's out too, so he might as well get a (0) as well >:D

What crazy kooky universe occurs where Jeff Green is getting 5.5 rebounds per?

His career average is 5.2 and he had 6.7 one year...
Once again you are underestimating "Mean Green"
I was being conservative!

Haha...he was playing 37 minutes a game at the power forward and giving up twice as many points as he scored! I don't think that's the El Jefe you're imagining, is it?

He is much improved now and if he doesn't get them Omolph Zasik will get them.

Jeff is even getting 4.8 per36 right now, with the Celtics!

4.8 rebounds per 36 minutes: Career worst for Jeff Green
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: StartOrien on February 19, 2013, 05:14:42 PM
Actual rebound rates, via hollinger, copied below-

Rajon Rondo (8.8)
Tyreke Evans (8.8)
Ersan Ilvasova (13.2)
Kenneth Faried (18.3)
Anderson Varejao (23.1)

Greivis Vasquez (8.0)
Klay Thompson (6.1)
Jeff Green (7.9)
Zach Randolph (19.5)
Omer Asik (21.8)

Looks like a lot of guys who are happy to rebound the ball.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Who on February 19, 2013, 05:15:55 PM
I laugh at the people who said getting Crawford at 2.5 a reach: your 6th man of the year, crazy crossovers
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pE3CJwQONws


i dont have the flashy names but with Crawford driving to the basket, Jrue throwing alley-oops to McGee and Smith and Martin hitting the outside shot i have a pretty solid team and Crawford has had no problems with the Clips if anything all he's been getting is high praise :)

Crawford is good at what he does.  However I don't rate what he does something I would want to take at 2.5

A third round pick or even late second.

I was surprised to see him go high second round.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: ronaldo943 on February 19, 2013, 05:17:16 PM
I laugh at the people who said getting Crawford at 2.5 a reach: your 6th man of the year, crazy crossovers
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pE3CJwQONws


i dont have the flashy names but with Crawford driving to the basket, Jrue throwing alley-oops to McGee and Smith and Martin hitting the outside shot i have a pretty solid team and Crawford has had no problems with the Clips if anything all he's been getting is high praise :)

Crawford is good at what he does.  However I don't rate what he does something I would want to take at 2.5

he is the 3rd option for the Clips behind Paul and Griffin respectively you got Granger at the first round who is coming off an injury and will be the second option and maybe maybe he will put numbers like Jamal
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: jgod213 on February 19, 2013, 05:17:23 PM
PG:
SG: Oj Mayo
SF: Nic Batum
PF: Paul Milsap
C:  Nikola Vucevic

I think Milsap+Vucevic=Love.

I think Batum is a good player that has likely reached his ceiling, which is a very good player, but not a top 2 player for a playoff team.


I've been a big Batum supporter for a few years, count me into the camp that thinks he still has growth.  He's been playing the majority of this season with a right wrist injury.  Severely hampering his shot but forcing him to playmake more.

I think, given some time to heal in the offseason, he'll be back to what he was earlier this year.



Also, I think Hibbert's a mental midget - but I think having Nash is a good thing for him. I think one of the worst things the Pacers do is force the ball into him in the post when he's just not that gifted offensively.

Yeah I just don't really get Roy Hibbert.  You'd think that a guy who is so adept defensively would have a bit more basketball savvy in him offensively.  Nash should at least help him get that turrible FG% up to a respectable number.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: CelticConcourse on February 19, 2013, 05:17:48 PM
Did you hear about what happened to all the rebounds?

my team got them.

My team has more! And we're actually all healthy! ;D

I'll concede the healthy part, but not the rebound part. I think I've got you beat at every position except PF.

Rajon Rondo (5.5)
Tyreke Evans (5)
Ersan Ilvasova (6)
Kenneth Faried (10)
Anderson Varejao (14)

Greivis Vasquez (4.5)
Klay Thompson (4)
Jeff Green (5.5)
Zach Randolph (11.5)
Omer Asik (11.5)

You win by a slim margin, but if Anderson's injured he can't get any rebounds! (0) And Rondo's out too, so he might as well get a (0) as well >:D

What crazy kooky universe occurs where Jeff Green is getting 5.5 rebounds per?

His career average is 5.2 and he had 6.7 one year...
Once again you are underestimating "Mean Green"
I was being conservative!

Haha...he was playing 37 minutes a game at the power forward and giving up twice as many points as he scored! I don't think that's the El Jefe you're imagining, is it?

He is much improved now and if he doesn't get them Omolph Zasik will get them.

Jeff is even getting 4.8 per36 right now, with the Celtics!

4.8 rebounds per 36 minutes: Career worst for Jeff Green

He had 6.1 per 36 minutes in his rookie season, as a SF.
I don't consider anything he did as a PF very important since he will never play SF on this team.
And his stats in Boston are pretty flawed with a slower pace, no offensive boards etc.

In his years at OKC he had: 5.4, 5.8, 6.1, 6.5
That's pretty good.

And at the guy who brought up Rebound Rate, you'd have to look at his rates from only OKC, or as a SF. When he's a PF, it tells a way different story.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: StartOrien on February 19, 2013, 05:18:23 PM
Actual rebound rates, via hollinger, copied below-

Rajon Rondo (8.8)
Tyreke Evans (8.8)
Ersan Ilvasova (13.2)
Kenneth Faried (18.3)
Anderson Varejao (23.1)

Greivis Vasquez (8.0)
Klay Thompson (6.1)
Jeff Green (7.9)
Zach Randolph (19.5)
Omer Asik (21.8)

Looks like a lot of guys who are happy to rebound the ball.

How do I not have a zillion TP's after this world-class zing?
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: indeedproceed on February 19, 2013, 05:18:45 PM
Rajon Rondo (8.8)
Tyreke Evans (8.8)
Ersan Ilvasova (13.2)
Kenneth Faried (18.3)
Anderson Varejao (23.1)

Question: What percent of the available minutes has Ersan Ilyasova played at the small forward position in the last 2 seasons, despite a desperate need from the Bucks for a guy to produce there?

0% He has played 0% of the minutes there. Don't think its tenable here, at least for me.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: ronaldo943 on February 19, 2013, 05:19:23 PM
I laugh at the people who said getting Crawford at 2.5 a reach: your 6th man of the year, crazy crossovers
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pE3CJwQONws


i dont have the flashy names but with Crawford driving to the basket, Jrue throwing alley-oops to McGee and Smith and Martin hitting the outside shot i have a pretty solid team and Crawford has had no problems with the Clips if anything all he's been getting is high praise :)

Crawford is good at what he does.  However I don't rate what he does something I would want to take at 2.5

A third round pick or even late second.

I was surprised to see him go high second round.

Crawford is a huge reason why the Clips have been so successful and actually there was a good amount of people who wanted to see him in the all star game
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: fairweatherfan on February 19, 2013, 05:20:08 PM
Actual rebound rates, via hollinger, copied below-

Rajon Rondo (8.8)
Tyreke Evans (8.8)
Ersan Ilvasova (13.2)
Kenneth Faried (18.3)
Anderson Varejao (23.1)

Greivis Vasquez (8.0)
Klay Thompson (6.1)
Jeff Green (7.9)
Zach Randolph (19.5)
Omer Asik (21.8)

Looks like a lot of guys who are happy to rebound the ball.

How do I not have a zillion TP's after this world-class zing?

Try and work in a David Caruso reference next time.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: CelticConcourse on February 19, 2013, 05:20:20 PM
Rajon Rondo (8.8)
Tyreke Evans (8.8)
Ersan Ilvasova (13.2)
Kenneth Faried (18.3)
Anderson Varejao (23.1)

Question: What percent of the available minutes has Ersan Ilyasova played at the small forward position in the last 2 seasons, despite a desperate need from the Bucks for a guy to produce there?

0% He has played 0% of the minutes there. Don't think its tenable here, at least for me.

And also:

I could also get my rebound rates up if I put 7-footers at all my positions ;D
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: indeedproceed on February 19, 2013, 05:21:51 PM
Jeff is even getting 4.8 rebounds per36 right now, with the Celtics!

4.8 rebounds per 36 minutes: Career worst for Jeff Green

He had 6.1 per 36 minutes in his rookie season, as a SF.
I don't consider anything he did as a PF very important since he will never play SF on this team.
And his stats in Boston are pretty flawed with a slower pace, no offensive boards etc.

In his years at OKC he had: 5.4, 5.8, 6.1, 6.5
That's pretty good.

No, that's pretty bad.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: indeedproceed on February 19, 2013, 05:22:42 PM
Actual rebound rates, via hollinger, copied below-

Rajon Rondo (8.8)
Tyreke Evans (8.8)
Ersan Ilvasova (13.2)
Kenneth Faried (18.3)
Anderson Varejao (23.1)

Greivis Vasquez (8.0)
Klay Thompson (6.1)
Jeff Green (7.9)
Zach Randolph (19.5)
Omer Asik (21.8)

Looks like a lot of guys who are happy to rebound the ball.

How do I not have a zillion TP's after this world-class zing?

Try and work in a David Caruso reference next time.

Usually I hate MMQB'ing on zingers. But man has a point here.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: KCattheStripe on February 19, 2013, 05:23:19 PM
Jeff is even getting 4.8 rebounds per36 right now, with the Celtics!

4.8 rebounds per 36 minutes: Career worst for Jeff Green

He had 6.1 per 36 minutes in his rookie season, as a SF.
I don't consider anything he did as a PF very important since he will never play SF on this team.
And his stats in Boston are pretty flawed with a slower pace, no offensive boards etc.

In his years at OKC he had: 5.4, 5.8, 6.1, 6.5
That's pretty good.

No, that's pretty bad.


You know what's not bad? The Pick 2 Pistons.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Who on February 19, 2013, 05:23:32 PM
Jrue Holiday
Jamal Crawford
Kevin Martin
Josh Smith
Javale McGee


I embrace hate  :-*

I get more worried about this team's chemistry each time I see it.

I would be pretty tempted to put JaVale McGee on the bench and bring in someone less talented but reliable to play in front of him for 20-25 minutes a night. Like he has in Denver.

I would put Jamal Crawford on the bench and start Kevin Martin. Not sure those two can get enough minutes on the same team. Crawford played pretty badly at PG the last time he played there. I would be reluctant to put him back there at this stage of his career. And Kevin Martin is a one position player. It looks like a problem to get them both enough minutes. Might need to move one of them.

The team desperately needs a veteran dependable presence who is a team first player who will move the ball and play tough defense at the three.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: ronaldo943 on February 19, 2013, 05:26:10 PM
Jrue Holiday
Jamal Crawford
Kevin Martin
Josh Smith
Javale McGee


I embrace hate  :-*

I get more worried about this team's chemistry each time I see it.

I would be pretty tempted to put JaVale McGee on the bench and bring in someone less talented but reliable to play in front of him for 20-25 minutes a night. Like he has in Denver.

I would put Jamal Crawford on the bench and start Kevin Martin. Not sure those two can get enough minutes on the same team. Crawford played pretty badly at PG the last time he played there. I would be reluctant to put him back there at this stage of his career. And Kevin Martin is a one position player. It looks like a problem to get them both enough minutes. Might need to move one of them.

The team desperately needs a veteran dependable presence who is a team first player who will move the ball and play tough defense at the three.

Yea im going to get another center crawford will get some minutes at sf and so will k-mart
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Rondo2287 on February 19, 2013, 05:28:13 PM
Jrue Holiday
Jamal Crawford
Kevin Martin
Josh Smith
Javale McGee


I embrace hate  :-*

I get more worried about this team's chemistry each time I see it.

I would be pretty tempted to put JaVale McGee on the bench and bring in someone less talented but reliable to play in front of him for 20-25 minutes a night. Like he has in Denver.

I would put Jamal Crawford on the bench and start Kevin Martin. Not sure those two can get enough minutes on the same team. Crawford played pretty badly at PG the last time he played there. I would be reluctant to put him back there at this stage of his career. And Kevin Martin is a one position player. It looks like a problem to get them both enough minutes. Might need to move one of them.

The team desperately needs a veteran dependable presence who is a team first player who will move the ball and play tough defense at the three.

Yea im going to get another center crawford will get some minutes at sf and so will k-mart

Your going to play Martin and Crawford at SF?
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: ronaldo943 on February 19, 2013, 05:29:53 PM
Jrue Holiday
Jamal Crawford
Kevin Martin
Josh Smith
Javale McGee


I embrace hate  :-*

I get more worried about this team's chemistry each time I see it.

I would be pretty tempted to put JaVale McGee on the bench and bring in someone less talented but reliable to play in front of him for 20-25 minutes a night. Like he has in Denver.

I would put Jamal Crawford on the bench and start Kevin Martin. Not sure those two can get enough minutes on the same team. Crawford played pretty badly at PG the last time he played there. I would be reluctant to put him back there at this stage of his career. And Kevin Martin is a one position player. It looks like a problem to get them both enough minutes. Might need to move one of them.

The team desperately needs a veteran dependable presence who is a team first player who will move the ball and play tough defense at the three.

Yea im going to get another center crawford will get some minutes at sf and so will k-mart

Your going to play Martin and Crawford at SF?

No they will both play about 6 minutes at the sf position the rest (for both) will be spent
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: sofutomygaha on February 19, 2013, 05:31:05 PM
Rajon Rondo (8.8)
Tyreke Evans (8.8)
Ersan Ilvasova (13.2)
Kenneth Faried (18.3)
Anderson Varejao (23.1)

Question: What percent of the available minutes has Ersan Ilyasova played at the small forward position in the last 2 seasons, despite a desperate need from the Bucks for a guy to produce there?

0% He has played 0% of the minutes there. Don't think its tenable here, at least for me.

This is a fair point. Rest assured, I will soon draft another SF who is also extremely happy to rebound the ball.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: CelticConcourse on February 19, 2013, 05:32:52 PM
Jeff is even getting 4.8 rebounds per36 right now, with the Celtics!

4.8 rebounds per 36 minutes: Career worst for Jeff Green

He had 6.1 per 36 minutes in his rookie season, as a SF.
I don't consider anything he did as a PF very important since he will never play SF on this team.
And his stats in Boston are pretty flawed with a slower pace, no offensive boards etc.

In his years at OKC he had: 5.4, 5.8, 6.1, 6.5
That's pretty good.

No, that's pretty bad.

To name a few, he's better than:

Nicolas Batum
Danny Granger
Paul Pierce (for the past 7 years)
Danilo Gallinari (6'10")
Tayshaun Prince (whole career)
Caron Butler
Jared Dudley (past 4 years)
Grant Hill (past 9 years)
Andre Igoudala

I'd say he's in the upper 50% of all SFs and better than some of his contemporaries, not "pretty bad"
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Fafnir on February 19, 2013, 05:36:40 PM
Jeff is even getting 4.8 rebounds per36 right now, with the Celtics!

4.8 rebounds per 36 minutes: Career worst for Jeff Green

He had 6.1 per 36 minutes in his rookie season, as a SF.
I don't consider anything he did as a PF very important since he will never play SF on this team.
And his stats in Boston are pretty flawed with a slower pace, no offensive boards etc.

In his years at OKC he had: 5.4, 5.8, 6.1, 6.5
That's pretty good.

No, that's pretty bad.

To name a few, he's better than:

Nicolas Batum
Danny Granger
Paul Pierce (for the past 7 years)
Danilo Gallinari (6'10")
Tayshaun Prince (whole career)
Caron Butler
Jared Dudley (past 4 years)
Grant Hill (past 9 years)
Andre Igoudala
False, you're using raw rebounding totals when rebounding rate is the best apples to apples comparison tool. Jeff Green at SF has a respectable 8ish TRB% at SF. Which is worse than many of the players you mention, even though some of them play a lot of SG/PF so its a strange comparison.

I only checked Pierce/Iggy/Batum all had higher rebound rates than 8.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: StartOrien on February 19, 2013, 05:40:56 PM
Actual rebound rates, via hollinger, copied below-

Rajon Rondo (8.8)
Tyreke Evans (8.8)
Ersan Ilvasova (13.2)
Kenneth Faried (18.3)
Anderson Varejao (23.1)

Greivis Vasquez (8.0)
Klay Thompson (6.1)
Jeff Green (7.9)
Zach Randolph (19.5)
Omer Asik (21.8)

Looks like a lot of guys who are happy to rebound the ball.

How do I not have a zillion TP's after this world-class zing?

Try and work in a David Caruso reference next time.

Usually I hate MMQB'ing on zingers. But man has a point here.

The team thought they were great at rebounding... turns out, they were DEAD wrong.

YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: ronaldo943 on February 19, 2013, 05:42:00 PM


To name a few, he's better than:

Nicolas Batum
Danny Granger
Paul Pierce (for the past 7 years)
Danilo Gallinari (6'10")
Tayshaun Prince (whole career)
Caron Butler
Jared Dudley (past 4 years)
Grant Hill (past 9 years)
Andre Igoudala

I'd say he's in the upper 50% of all SFs and better than some of his contemporaries, not "pretty bad"

I question where you get your stats
Jeff Green is at 6.5 REB PER 48 MIN
That would put him at 34th place for small forwards according to ESPN
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: KGs Knee on February 19, 2013, 05:42:17 PM
Actual rebound rates, via hollinger, copied below-

Rajon Rondo (8.8)
Tyreke Evans (8.8)
Ersan Ilvasova (13.2)
Kenneth Faried (18.3)
Anderson Varejao (23.1)

Greivis Vasquez (8.0)
Klay Thompson (6.1)
Jeff Green (7.9)
Zach Randolph (19.5)
Omer Asik (21.8)

Looks like a lot of guys who are happy to rebound the ball.

How do I not have a zillion TP's after this world-class zing?

Well, here's one TP anyway.

I'll tell you though I do hate when you type an ")" after an "8" you get this 8) instead of this 8 )
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: CelticConcourse on February 19, 2013, 05:42:38 PM
Jeff is even getting 4.8 rebounds per36 right now, with the Celtics!

4.8 rebounds per 36 minutes: Career worst for Jeff Green

He had 6.1 per 36 minutes in his rookie season, as a SF.
I don't consider anything he did as a PF very important since he will never play SF on this team.
And his stats in Boston are pretty flawed with a slower pace, no offensive boards etc.

In his years at OKC he had: 5.4, 5.8, 6.1, 6.5
That's pretty good.

No, that's pretty bad.

To name a few, he's better than:

Nicolas Batum
Danny Granger
Paul Pierce (for the past 7 years)
Danilo Gallinari (6'10")
Tayshaun Prince (whole career)
Caron Butler
Jared Dudley (past 4 years)
Grant Hill (past 9 years)
Andre Igoudala
False, you're using raw rebounding totals when rebounding rate is the best apples to apples comparison tool. Jeff Green at SF has a respectable 8ish TRB% at SF. Which is worse than many of the players you mention, even though some of them play a lot of SG/PF so its a strange comparison.

I only checked Pierce/Iggy/Batum all had higher rebound rates than 8.

The question is, did you only use the rates of him playing SF in OKC? Pretty unlikely. Players get totally different stats on different teams at different positions.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Fafnir on February 19, 2013, 05:44:16 PM
Jeff is even getting 4.8 rebounds per36 right now, with the Celtics!

4.8 rebounds per 36 minutes: Career worst for Jeff Green

He had 6.1 per 36 minutes in his rookie season, as a SF.
I don't consider anything he did as a PF very important since he will never play SF on this team.
And his stats in Boston are pretty flawed with a slower pace, no offensive boards etc.

In his years at OKC he had: 5.4, 5.8, 6.1, 6.5
That's pretty good.

No, that's pretty bad.

To name a few, he's better than:

Nicolas Batum
Danny Granger
Paul Pierce (for the past 7 years)
Danilo Gallinari (6'10")
Tayshaun Prince (whole career)
Caron Butler
Jared Dudley (past 4 years)
Grant Hill (past 9 years)
Andre Igoudala
False, you're using raw rebounding totals when rebounding rate is the best apples to apples comparison tool. Jeff Green at SF has a respectable 8ish TRB% at SF. Which is worse than many of the players you mention, even though some of them play a lot of SG/PF so its a strange comparison.

I only checked Pierce/Iggy/Batum all had higher rebound rates than 8.

The question is, did you only use the rates of him playing SF in OKC? Pretty unlikely. Players get totally different stats on different teams at different positions.
I only used the rates for him in BOS, where he has primarily played the SF position.

Even if you take his best rebounding season by TRB% (when he played a lot of PF) he's still worse than plenty of the guys on your list.

Jeff Green is an average rebounding SF. He's certainly not better than the majority of the guys you listed.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: CelticConcourse on February 19, 2013, 05:47:35 PM
Jeff is even getting 4.8 rebounds per36 right now, with the Celtics!

4.8 rebounds per 36 minutes: Career worst for Jeff Green

He had 6.1 per 36 minutes in his rookie season, as a SF.
I don't consider anything he did as a PF very important since he will never play SF on this team.
And his stats in Boston are pretty flawed with a slower pace, no offensive boards etc.

In his years at OKC he had: 5.4, 5.8, 6.1, 6.5
That's pretty good.

No, that's pretty bad.

To name a few, he's better than:

Nicolas Batum
Danny Granger
Paul Pierce (for the past 7 years)
Danilo Gallinari (6'10")
Tayshaun Prince (whole career)
Caron Butler
Jared Dudley (past 4 years)
Grant Hill (past 9 years)
Andre Igoudala
False, you're using raw rebounding totals when rebounding rate is the best apples to apples comparison tool. Jeff Green at SF has a respectable 8ish TRB% at SF. Which is worse than many of the players you mention, even though some of them play a lot of SG/PF so its a strange comparison.

I only checked Pierce/Iggy/Batum all had higher rebound rates than 8.

The question is, did you only use the rates of him playing SF in OKC? Pretty unlikely. Players get totally different stats on different teams at different positions.
I only used the rates for him in BOS, where he has primarily played the SF position.

Even if you take his best rebounding season by TRB% (when he played a lot of PF) he's still worse than plenty of the guys on your list.

Jeff Green is an average rebounding SF. He's certainly not better than the majority of the guys you listed.

Well, then. I guess I'm pretty stumped by why he has better RP36M numbers. Could someone explain to me?  ???
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: ronaldo943 on February 19, 2013, 05:49:44 PM

Well, then. I guess I'm pretty stumped by why he has better RP36M numbers. Could someone explain to me?  ???

I question where you get your stats
Jeff Green is at 6.5 REB PER 48 MIN
That would put him at 34th place for small forwards according to ESPN
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: CelticConcourse on February 19, 2013, 05:50:38 PM

Well, then. I guess I'm pretty stumped by why he has better RP36M numbers. Could someone explain to me?  ???

I question where you get your stats
Jeff Green is at 6.5 REB PER 48 MIN
That would put him at 34th place for small forwards according to ESPN

If you read ANY of my previous posts, I was alluding to his time as a SF in OKC, per thirty-six minutes from BRef, which would be most similar to his position on my team ;D
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Fafnir on February 19, 2013, 05:51:07 PM
Jeff is even getting 4.8 rebounds per36 right now, with the Celtics!

4.8 rebounds per 36 minutes: Career worst for Jeff Green

He had 6.1 per 36 minutes in his rookie season, as a SF.
I don't consider anything he did as a PF very important since he will never play SF on this team.
And his stats in Boston are pretty flawed with a slower pace, no offensive boards etc.

In his years at OKC he had: 5.4, 5.8, 6.1, 6.5
That's pretty good.

No, that's pretty bad.

To name a few, he's better than:

Nicolas Batum
Danny Granger
Paul Pierce (for the past 7 years)
Danilo Gallinari (6'10")
Tayshaun Prince (whole career)
Caron Butler
Jared Dudley (past 4 years)
Grant Hill (past 9 years)
Andre Igoudala
False, you're using raw rebounding totals when rebounding rate is the best apples to apples comparison tool. Jeff Green at SF has a respectable 8ish TRB% at SF. Which is worse than many of the players you mention, even though some of them play a lot of SG/PF so its a strange comparison.

I only checked Pierce/Iggy/Batum all had higher rebound rates than 8.

The question is, did you only use the rates of him playing SF in OKC? Pretty unlikely. Players get totally different stats on different teams at different positions.
I only used the rates for him in BOS, where he has primarily played the SF position.

Even if you take his best rebounding season by TRB% (when he played a lot of PF) he's still worse than plenty of the guys on your list.

Jeff Green is an average rebounding SF. He's certainly not better than the majority of the guys you listed.

Well, then. I guess I'm pretty stumped by why he has better RP36M numbers. Could someone explain to me?  ???
Pace and number of turnovers teams have/force. You can only get a rebound off a shot or a missed FTA that's the last FTA in a sequence.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: ronaldo943 on February 19, 2013, 05:53:04 PM

Well, then. I guess I'm pretty stumped by why he has better RP36M numbers. Could someone explain to me?  ???

I question where you get your stats
Jeff Green is at 6.5 REB PER 48 MIN
That would put him at 34th place for small forwards according to ESPN

If you read ANY of my previous posts, I was alluding to his time as a SF in OKC, per thirty-six minutes from BRef, which would be most similar to his position on my team ;D


LOL at this he is 34th for the Celtics who are a terrible rebounding team yet you think he will put up the numbers he put up in OKC with Randolph and Asik get out
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Atzar on February 19, 2013, 05:53:28 PM
PG:  Tony Parker
SG:  Monta Ellis
SF: 
PF:  Tristan Thompson
C:  Pau Gasol

Ideally I want Ellis as a sixth man on this team, but I'm not sure I'll be able to find starter-caliber wings this late that would allow me that luxury.  If I can't, I'll probably try to trade him because I don't like him starting alongside Parker and Gasol. 

Thompson hasn't developed his range yet, but he's becoming a versatile defender, an excellent rebounder and can put up points without having plays drawn up for him.  He also has upside, whereas everybody else on the team has already peaked. 

My primary concern for this team is spacing.  Ideally, both of my wings will be able to hit the three and defend.  I don't need them to be great scorers, just good enough shooters that they can punish defenders for helping off of them. 

Thoughts?
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: CelticConcourse on February 19, 2013, 05:54:13 PM
Jeff is even getting 4.8 rebounds per36 right now, with the Celtics!

4.8 rebounds per 36 minutes: Career worst for Jeff Green

He had 6.1 per 36 minutes in his rookie season, as a SF.
I don't consider anything he did as a PF very important since he will never play SF on this team.
And his stats in Boston are pretty flawed with a slower pace, no offensive boards etc.

In his years at OKC he had: 5.4, 5.8, 6.1, 6.5
That's pretty good.

No, that's pretty bad.

To name a few, he's better than:

Nicolas Batum
Danny Granger
Paul Pierce (for the past 7 years)
Danilo Gallinari (6'10")
Tayshaun Prince (whole career)
Caron Butler
Jared Dudley (past 4 years)
Grant Hill (past 9 years)
Andre Igoudala
False, you're using raw rebounding totals when rebounding rate is the best apples to apples comparison tool. Jeff Green at SF has a respectable 8ish TRB% at SF. Which is worse than many of the players you mention, even though some of them play a lot of SG/PF so its a strange comparison.

I only checked Pierce/Iggy/Batum all had higher rebound rates than 8.

The question is, did you only use the rates of him playing SF in OKC? Pretty unlikely. Players get totally different stats on different teams at different positions.
I only used the rates for him in BOS, where he has primarily played the SF position.

Even if you take his best rebounding season by TRB% (when he played a lot of PF) he's still worse than plenty of the guys on your list.

Jeff Green is an average rebounding SF. He's certainly not better than the majority of the guys you listed.

Well, then. I guess I'm pretty stumped by why he has better RP36M numbers. Could someone explain to me?  ???
Pace and number of turnovers teams have/force. You can only get a rebound off a shot or a missed FTA that's the last FTA in a sequence.

Yea, so that's what I was trying to say, since Boston plays at a slow pace compared to the OKC teams he was on. Plus, the "NO OFF REBS". That wouldn't be part of my plan at all.

I think I should cool off. I always start to dominate these threads and make them go off-topic.

Sorry
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Fafnir on February 19, 2013, 05:59:45 PM

Yea, so that's what I was trying to say, since Boston plays at a slow pace compared to the OKC teams he was on. Plus, the "NO OFF REBS". That wouldn't be part of my plan at all.

I think I should cool off. I always start to dominate these threads and make them go off-topic.

Sorry
That wasn't what you were trying to say at all. You were trying to say he's better than "this list of players" at rebounding.

His TRB% both in OKC and in BOS clearly indicate that claim to be false. The TRB% already normalizes for all the factors you speak of.

It doesn't deal with team rebounding sure, but again in that area Jeff Green is pretty average. He gets slightly below average rebounds for a SF, but he does a good job preventing most other SFs from getting boards.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: CelticConcourse on February 19, 2013, 06:01:30 PM
<Never mind everything>
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: StartOrien on February 19, 2013, 06:07:02 PM
My teams the best, you guys.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: KCattheStripe on February 19, 2013, 06:07:57 PM
My teams the best, you guys.

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Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Fafnir on February 19, 2013, 06:09:00 PM
My teams the best, you guys.
Its pretty impressive, I'm interested to who you fill out your PF/C rotation with.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Rondo2287 on February 19, 2013, 06:09:18 PM

Yea, so that's what I was trying to say, since Boston plays at a slow pace compared to the OKC teams he was on. Plus, the "NO OFF REBS". That wouldn't be part of my plan at all.

I think I should cool off. I always start to dominate these threads and make them go off-topic.

Sorry
That wasn't what you were trying to say at all. You were trying to say he's better than "this list of players" at rebounding.

His TRB% both in OKC and in BOS clearly indicate that claim to be false. The TRB% already normalizes for all the factors you speak of.

It doesn't deal with team rebounding sure, but again in that area Jeff Green is pretty average. He gets slightly below average rebounds for a SF, but he does a good job preventing most other SFs from getting boards.

To be fair he did say,

Quote
Jeff is even getting 4.8 rebounds per36 right now, with the Celtics!

Quote
I don't consider anything he did as a PF very important since he will never play SF on this team.
And his stats in Boston are pretty flawed with a slower pace, no offensive boards etc.

Quote
In his years at OKC he had: 5.4, 5.8, 6.1, 6.5
That's pretty good.

So that kinda was what he was trying to say
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Fafnir on February 19, 2013, 06:12:53 PM
So that kinda was what he was trying to say
Originally yeah, I just saw the big old list of guys who all rebound more than Jeff Green as "worse" than Green.

I definitely don't agree with IP that his rebounding is "pretty bad". I wouldn't say "pretty good" either though.

Like most things Jeff Green, meh!
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: celticpride07 on February 19, 2013, 06:13:48 PM
Looking to'ake trades everyone is available besides wade
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Evantime34 on February 19, 2013, 06:15:55 PM
1- Chris Paul
2- ?
3- Kyle Korver
4- Blake Griffin
5- Larry Sanders

The actual guy who mans the 3 (and the 2) for the Clippers I think would've served you much better than Korver, but I'm absolutely excited about Larry Sanders growing next to Griffin. I think he might even hold them back a little this season, but I also think in a year or so he'll be the difference between fringe contender and outright contender.
You don't think Sanders is better than Jordan right now? Because all the numbers indicate that is the case
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: KGs Knee on February 19, 2013, 06:18:32 PM
Looking to'ake trades everyone is available besides wade

You need to move Wallace or Boozer, badly.

Only having 20mil or so left to spend is not going to work if you want to have any sort of bench.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: CelticConcourse on February 19, 2013, 06:19:10 PM
Like most things Jeff Green, meh!

He can be a glue guy, and I'm fine with that! ;D
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: KGs Knee on February 19, 2013, 06:21:36 PM
1- Chris Paul
2- ?
3- Kyle Korver
4- Blake Griffin
5- Larry Sanders

The actual guy who mans the 3 (and the 2) for the Clippers I think would've served you much better than Korver, but I'm absolutely excited about Larry Sanders growing next to Griffin. I think he might even hold them back a little this season, but I also think in a year or so he'll be the difference between fringe contender and outright contender.
You don't think Sanders is better than Jordan right now? Because all the numbers indicate that is the case

I 100% think Sanders will be better.  He is not currently better though.

DeAndre has a very specific role he is asked to fill, and does it rather well.  I don't think Sander has nearly enough experience to be relied upon in that role.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Atzar on February 19, 2013, 06:33:50 PM
Like most things Jeff Green, meh!

He can be a glue guy, and I'm fine with that! ;D

Not to pile on, but I don't see how you consider your team a contender. 

You have one above average offensive player, (Randolph), one average offensive player (Green), and three below average offensive players (Vasquez, Thompson, Asik).  Thompson and Green have room for growth on this end, but Vasquez and Asik really don't.

You have one above average defensive player (Asik), one average defensive player (Green), and three below average defensive players (Vasquez, Thompson, Randolph).  Green can grow in this area, the others are too limited physically to get much better. 

You can argue the rebounding angle all you want (and for the record, I agree that you'll have a strong team on the glass).  But the most important parts of the game are getting points and getting stops, and you'll struggle with both.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: KGs Knee on February 19, 2013, 06:39:11 PM
Like most things Jeff Green, meh!

He can be a glue guy, and I'm fine with that! ;D

Green is fine as a starting SF.  He'll likely never be an all-star, but as a thrid-banana, I think he's suited well enough.

Overall, I like what you've done to save yourself from the Gasol fiasco, by plugging in Asik.  The back-court has got to go though.  Not ready for the big stage.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: CelticConcourse on February 19, 2013, 06:41:45 PM
Like most things Jeff Green, meh!

He can be a glue guy, and I'm fine with that! ;D

Not to pile on, but I don't see how you consider your team a contender. 

You have one above average offensive player, (Randolph), one average offensive player (Green), and three below average offensive players (Vasquez, Thompson, Asik).  Thompson and Green have room for growth on this end, but Vasquez and Asik really don't.

You have one above average defensive player (Asik), one average defensive player (Green), and three below average defensive players (Vasquez, Thompson, Randolph).  Green can grow in this area, the others are too limited physically to get much better. 

You can argue the rebounding angle all you want (and for the record, I agree that you'll have a strong team on the glass).  But the most important parts of the game are getting points and getting stops, and you'll struggle with both.

If Vasquez is below average in offense and defense, so is Rondo and we might as well give up everything here in Boston. Vasquez is a passer and is good at that; he averages 9.4 apg which is good enough to facilitate this team. He has above average court vision, and is a plus rebounder.

Klay Thompson is absolutely not a below average offensive player, he averages 16.4ppg in his second year. He shot lights out from 3P last year, and is a scorer and shooter. He's a Kevin Martin kind of guy. Not a good defender really.

Jeff Green is average in everything, according to you guys, but I also think he can score 20 ppg (he's done it in the past, he can do it again). Coming out recently, he's not a bad defensive player either. I'd say he's average at the worst.

ZBo clogs up the paint both on offense and defense and is a double-double threat every game. He's one of the guys who might be Rebound King this year, and he can score too, great post player. I'd say he's not an average defender, but his offense makes up for that.

And Asik is a top-2 defender for his position, he's definitely one of the premier defensive guys in this league. He can rebound nearly as well as Randolph, and though he's limited offensively, I expect Vasquez to improve him on that front (I mean, Jeremy Lin got him 10 ppg). He will only improve on offense (honestly, Nick) and his defense is HUGE.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Rondo2287 on February 19, 2013, 06:44:04 PM
Got two more picks tomorrow to round out my starting 5 so we will know alot more about my squad then, but im happy with where im at right now

C:  Horford
PF: K. Love
SF: Granger
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Evantime34 on February 19, 2013, 06:48:05 PM
1- Chris Paul
2- ?
3- Kyle Korver
4- Blake Griffin
5- Larry Sanders

The actual guy who mans the 3 (and the 2) for the Clippers I think would've served you much better than Korver, but I'm absolutely excited about Larry Sanders growing next to Griffin. I think he might even hold them back a little this season, but I also think in a year or so he'll be the difference between fringe contender and outright contender.
You don't think Sanders is better than Jordan right now? Because all the numbers indicate that is the case

I 100% think Sanders will be better.  He is not currently better though.

DeAndre has a very specific role he is asked to fill, and does it rather well.  I don't think Sander has nearly enough experience to be relied upon in that role.
Statistically Sanders is a better defender, better shot blocker and more likely to score on a non dunk. What is Jordan better at?
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: KGs Knee on February 19, 2013, 06:52:16 PM
1- Chris Paul
2- ?
3- Kyle Korver
4- Blake Griffin
5- Larry Sanders

The actual guy who mans the 3 (and the 2) for the Clippers I think would've served you much better than Korver, but I'm absolutely excited about Larry Sanders growing next to Griffin. I think he might even hold them back a little this season, but I also think in a year or so he'll be the difference between fringe contender and outright contender.
You don't think Sanders is better than Jordan right now? Because all the numbers indicate that is the case

I 100% think Sanders will be better.  He is not currently better though.

DeAndre has a very specific role he is asked to fill, and does it rather well.  I don't think Sander has nearly enough experience to be relied upon in that role.
Statistically Sanders is a better defender, better shot blocker and more likely to score on a non dunk. What is Jordan better at?

Doing what Sanders is doing in Milwaukee isn't the same as doing for a title contender.

I'm not entirely sure he'd be ready for the bright lights immediately.  It's possible, but unknown.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Atzar on February 19, 2013, 06:56:08 PM
If Vasquez is below average in offense and defense, so is Rondo and we might as well give up everything here in Boston. Vasquez is a passer and is good at that; he averages 9.4 apg which is good enough to facilitate this team. He has above average court vision, and is a plus rebounder.

You keep comparing him to Rondo, which is crap.  Rondo is a better passer, better rebounder, and better defender (even this year, when Rondo's defense lapsed noticeably, he's still tipping balls and creating turnovers; Vasquez doesn't do this).  Rondo is way better as a finisher.  Vasquez is a better shooter from deep, but that's the only thing he has over Rondo. 

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Klay Thompson is absolutely not a below average offensive player, he averages 16.4ppg in his second year. He shot lights out from 3P last year, and is a scorer and shooter. He's a Kevin Martin kind of guy. Not a good defender really.

He has one above average skill, the three point shot.  Aside from that, he's shooting 41.6% on the year and doesn't get to the line.  That's not above average as far as I'm concerned. 

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Jeff Green is average in everything, according to you guys, but I also think he can score 20 ppg (he's done it in the past, he can do it again). Coming out recently, he's not a bad defensive player either. I'd say he's average at the worst.

In his best scoring year, he averaged 16.5 points per game.  Are you just making numbers up now?  And like I said - as a defender, average. 

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ZBo clogs up the paint both on offense and defense and is a double-double threat every game. He's one of the guys who might be Rebound King this year, and he can score too, great post player. I'd say he's not an average defender, but his offense makes up for that.

Like I said:  good on offense, not on defense.

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And Asik is a top-2 defender for his position, he's definitely one of the premier defensive guys in this league. He can rebound nearly as well as Randolph, and though he's limited offensively, I expect Vasquez to improve him on that front (I mean, Jeremy Lin got him 10 ppg). He will only improve on offense (honestly, Nick) and his defense is HUGE.

I'm not quite as high on his defense.  He's good, but not great.  Noah, Howard, Garnett, and Duncan are all better.  Bogut, Varejao and Bynum are better when healthy.

I also don't see the growth potential on offense.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: KGs Knee on February 19, 2013, 06:56:17 PM
Got two more picks tomorrow to round out my starting 5 so we will know alot more about my squad then, but im happy with where im at right now

C:  Horford
PF: K. Love
SF: Granger

Yeah, I lke what you've got going on with your roster right now.

Drafting wisely tomorrow will be important, but it looks like you've got the picks to pull it off.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: airbelinelli on February 19, 2013, 06:59:26 PM
Ok New setup not much different then before but a swap in PF which i think is good for my team
also I'm up now if people have suggestions as to who I should add
PG: Lawson
SG: Beal
SF:
PF: Thad Young
C: Demarcus Cousins
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: BigAlTheFuture on February 19, 2013, 07:04:47 PM
End of day 2.

PG: Ricky Rubio
SG: Demar Derozan
SF: Paul Pierce
PF: Dirk Nowitzki
C: Deandre Jordan

Not planning on keeping Derozan
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: RebusRankin on February 19, 2013, 07:05:29 PM
End of day 2.

PG: Ricky Rubio
SG: Demar Derozan
SF: Paul Pierce
PF: Dirk Nowitzki
C: Deandre Jordan

Not planning on keeping Derozan

Contender. I really like this team.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: StartOrien on February 19, 2013, 07:10:39 PM
End of day 2.

PG: Ricky Rubio
SG: Demar Derozan
SF: Paul Pierce
PF: Dirk Nowitzki
C: Deandre Jordan

Not planning on keeping Derozan

Ha. Just saw the bottom line. I agree, Derozan's a bad fit here. But why pick him in the first place? Seems like there's plenty of talent at the 2 that would fit you just fine.

Need shooting and defense out of that 2 guard, and I'd look to pick a backup PG with some defensive ability soon.

Fantastic team though. Kinda feel like the KG rumors have knocked down DeAndre's value. He definitely should've been a first round pick.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: CelticConcourse on February 19, 2013, 07:12:37 PM
End of day 2.

PG: Ricky Rubio
SG: Demar Derozan
SF: Paul Pierce
PF: Dirk Nowitzki
C: Deandre Jordan

Not planning on keeping Derozan

Look for a "3 and D" type of guy
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: StartOrien on February 19, 2013, 07:14:49 PM
Ok New setup not much different then before but a swap in PF which i think is good for my team
also I'm up now if people have suggestions as to who I should add
PG: Lawson
SG: Beal
SF:
PF: Thad Young
C: Demarcus Cousins

This is one of my favorite teams. Real nice assemblage of young talent that fits well together. I actually don't like Thad Young much as a player, but his skillset is perfect next to DMC (and with Lawson at point).
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: BigAlTheFuture on February 19, 2013, 07:14:56 PM
End of day 2.

PG: Ricky Rubio
SG: Demar Derozan
SF: Paul Pierce
PF: Dirk Nowitzki
C: Deandre Jordan

Not planning on keeping Derozan

Ha. Just saw the bottom line. I agree, Derozan's a bad fit here. But why pick him in the first place? Seems like there's plenty of talent at the 2 that would fit you just fine.

Need shooting and defense out of that 2 guard, and I'd look to pick a backup PG with some defensive ability soon.

Fantastic team though. Kinda feel like the KG rumors have knocked down DeAndre's value. He definitely should've been a first round pick.

I had a deal in place that didn't fall through. Looking for a few picks in later rounders to fill out my roster and thought Derozan would have more trade value than some other wings.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: CelticConcourse on February 19, 2013, 07:15:28 PM
Someone should make a list of who they think will be playoff teams ;D
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: ronaldo943 on February 19, 2013, 07:16:06 PM
Someone should make a list of who they think will be playoff teams ;D

its to early to tell right now
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: CelticConcourse on February 19, 2013, 07:17:23 PM
Someone should make a list of who they think will be playoff teams ;D

its to early to tell right now

To be honest, it's just about the time where most people have filled up their starting lineups. Can we make a list of who the clear-cut contenders are? ;D
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: StartOrien on February 19, 2013, 07:18:01 PM
End of day 2.

PG: Ricky Rubio
SG: Demar Derozan
SF: Paul Pierce
PF: Dirk Nowitzki
C: Deandre Jordan

Not planning on keeping Derozan

Ha. Just saw the bottom line. I agree, Derozan's a bad fit here. But why pick him in the first place? Seems like there's plenty of talent at the 2 that would fit you just fine.

Need shooting and defense out of that 2 guard, and I'd look to pick a backup PG with some defensive ability soon.

Fantastic team though. Kinda feel like the KG rumors have knocked down DeAndre's value. He definitely should've been a first round pick.

I had a deal in place that didn't fall through. Looking for a few picks in later rounders to fill out my roster and thought Derozan would have more trade value than some other wings.

Makes sense. I suppose if you were forced to keep him he wouldn't be a bad 6th man. Can't keep him in the starting lineup though.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: KGs Knee on February 19, 2013, 07:25:48 PM
Someone should make a list of who they think will be playoff teams ;D

its to early to tell right now

To be honest, it's just about the time where most people have filled up their starting lineups. Can we make a list of who the clear-cut contenders are? ;D

Sure

1. Brooklyn Nets

I'll let you guys debate the rest
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: CelticConcourse on February 19, 2013, 07:27:48 PM
Someone should make a list of who they think will be playoff teams ;D

its to early to tell right now

To be honest, it's just about the time where most people have filled up their starting lineups. Can we make a list of who the clear-cut contenders are? ;D

Sure

1. Brookly Nets

I'll let you guys debate the rest

Memphis!

LOL jk. Even I'm know that biased
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Evantime34 on February 19, 2013, 07:29:38 PM
1- Chris Paul
2- ?
3- Kyle Korver
4- Blake Griffin
5- Larry Sanders

The actual guy who mans the 3 (and the 2) for the Clippers I think would've served you much better than Korver, but I'm absolutely excited about Larry Sanders growing next to Griffin. I think he might even hold them back a little this season, but I also think in a year or so he'll be the difference between fringe contender and outright contender.
You don't think Sanders is better than Jordan right now? Because all the numbers indicate that is the case

I 100% think Sanders will be better.  He is not currently better though.

DeAndre has a very specific role he is asked to fill, and does it rather well.  I don't think Sander has nearly enough experience to be relied upon in that role.
Statistically Sanders is a better defender, better shot blocker and more likely to score on a non dunk. What is Jordan better at?

Doing what Sanders is doing in Milwaukee isn't the same as doing for a title contender.

I'm not entirely sure he'd be ready for the bright lights immediately.  It's possible, but unknown.
You are right it isn't the same, it's better. Sanders is putting up a better defensive rating with less around him defensively. He is setting himself up for alley oops without the benefit of the best point guard in the game.

The only regular rotation player with a better defensive rating than Larry Sanders? Tim Duncan. That's it. He leads the league in blocks per game and block %. Oh and Sanders plays at the end of games unlike Jordan.

I feel like the main reason people think D'Andre is better now is due to the fact that LAC is on TV all the time and Milwaukee never is. Well I have the version of league pass where you pick 5 teams to watch, Milwaukee is one of those teams. I've seen all of his games and you can trust me he's better than Jordan ;-)
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Celtic Fan Forever on February 19, 2013, 07:30:59 PM
Raptors
C: Bogut
PF: Ibaka
SF: Gay
SG:
PG: Lowry

Thoughts?
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: KGs Knee on February 19, 2013, 07:32:55 PM
To be honest, it's just about the time where most people have filled up their starting lineups.

I disagree with this part though.

If no trades were made, every team would have exactly four players.  Some teams have 5 players already, some only have three players.

Generally, the teams with the most elite talent, have less players because those players come at a premium.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: CelticConcourse on February 19, 2013, 07:33:16 PM
Oh and Sanders plays at the end of games unlike Jordan.

Eh. Sanders is only 57.7% at FTs too.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: CelticConcourse on February 19, 2013, 07:34:15 PM
To be honest, it's just about the time where most people have filled up their starting lineups.

I disagree with this part though.

If no trades were made, every team would have exactly four players.  Some teams have 5 players already, some only have three players.

Generally, the teams with the most elite talent, have less players because those players come at a premium.

Your roster is pretty good, and it has 4 players, but I think most of us can tell you did a good job ;D
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: ronaldo943 on February 19, 2013, 07:34:35 PM
To be honest, it's just about the time where most people have filled up their starting lineups.

I disagree with this part though.

If no trades were made, every team would have exactly four players.  Some teams have 5 players already, some only have three players.

Generally, the teams with the most elite talent, have less players because those players come at a premium.

Exactly
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Evantime34 on February 19, 2013, 07:35:30 PM
Raptors
C: Bogut
PF: Ibaka
SF: Gay
SG:
PG: Lowry

Thoughts?
Great length, potential to be great defensive team. Used to be a huge Lowry fan but he has been unimpressive (at least to me) in Toronto this year.

I would grab a back up big so that you don't have to rely too heavily on Bogut. At the two I would go with either a stalwart defender or a good three point shooter.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: StartOrien on February 19, 2013, 07:35:49 PM
Raptors
C: Bogut
PF: Ibaka
SF: Gay
SG:
PG: Lowry

Thoughts?

Awww maaaaan, wish you would've drafted Nene.

What's there to say about a Bogut team? Injuries off, your team is outright filthy. Love the idea of Lowry running pick and rolls with Bogut (and Ibaka working the base lines). Interior defense is incredible.

But, who knows at the end of the day. Bogut is a yuge injury risk. And until I see elsewise, I kind have to assume he'll get injured again. Which sucks, because Bogut's awesome.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: KGs Knee on February 19, 2013, 07:37:14 PM
To be honest, it's just about the time where most people have filled up their starting lineups.

I disagree with this part though.

If no trades were made, every team would have exactly four players.  Some teams have 5 players already, some only have three players.

Generally, the teams with the most elite talent, have less players because those players come at a premium.

Your roster is pretty good, and it has 4 players, but I think most of us can tell you did a good job ;D

Thanks, I appreciate the compliments.

However, even I can admit I still have one glaring hole in my roster.  I also have no 3rd round pick.  I'm going to need to make up for it with smart drafting.

Which of course is what I love best.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: CelticConcourse on February 19, 2013, 07:38:26 PM
Raptors
C: Bogut
PF: Ibaka
SF: Gay
SG:
PG: Lowry

Thoughts?

Awww maaaaan, wish you would've drafted Nene.

What's there to say about a Bogut team? Injuries off, your team is outright filthy. Love the idea of Lowry running pick and rolls with Bogut (and Ibaka working the base lines). Interior defense is incredible.

But, who knows at the end of the day. Bogut is a yuge injury risk. And until I see elsewise, I kind have to assume he'll get injured again. Which sucks, because Bogut's awesome.

One injury and the team goes "meh"

To be honest, it's just about the time where most people have filled up their starting lineups.

I disagree with this part though.

If no trades were made, every team would have exactly four players.  Some teams have 5 players already, some only have three players.

Generally, the teams with the most elite talent, have less players because those players come at a premium.

Your roster is pretty good, and it has 4 players, but I think most of us can tell you did a good job ;D

Thanks, I appreciate the compliments.

However, even I can admit I still have one glaring hole in my roster.  I also have no 3rd round pick.  I'm going to need to make up for it with smart drafting.

Which of course is what I love best.

You don't need a borderline All-Star at every position, all you need is to plug in the holes even with average players. OKC has a "meh" guy in their starting lineup, you can do something like that too
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: ronaldo943 on February 19, 2013, 08:03:01 PM
Russell Westbrook
Kevin Martin
SF
PF
J.J Hickson

PG
Jamal Crawford
SF
PF
Javale McGee

I wanted to build a deep team and with 3.3, 4.5, and 4.9 i think i can
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: TheTruthFot18 on February 19, 2013, 08:07:51 PM
Post Trade OKC Thunder

PG: Jrue Holiday
SG:
SF: Kevin Durant
PF: Josh Smith
C:

Still looking for a center but will likely grab a guard next pick
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: TheTruthFot18 on February 19, 2013, 08:15:53 PM
End of day 2.

PG: Ricky Rubio
SG: Demar Derozan
SF: Paul Pierce
PF: Dirk Nowitzki
C: Deandre Jordan

Not planning on keeping Derozan

Only team right now that keeps catching my eye. Good job with that group
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: airbelinelli on February 19, 2013, 09:26:42 PM
Filled out my starting 5
PG: Ty Lawson
SG: Bradley Beal
SF: MKG
PF: Thad Young
C: DMC

Thoughts?? Lawson is my oldest player and they're all tied up for at least the next few years.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: CelticConcourse on February 19, 2013, 09:28:54 PM
Filled out my starting 5
PG: Ty Lawson
SG: Bradley Beal
SF: MKG
PF: Thad Young
C: DMC

Thoughts?? Lawson is my oldest player and they're all tied up for at least the next few years.

I think you should look for a stretch big-man like the one on the 76ers
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: indeedproceed on February 19, 2013, 09:38:32 PM
Filled out my starting 5
PG: Ty Lawson
SG: Bradley Beal
SF: MKG
PF: Thad Young
C: DMC

Thoughts?? Lawson is my oldest player and they're all tied up for at least the next few years.

I think that you need to look for a grey beard to rein in the youths. And I think it should be your next pick, a guy with impeccable character and leadership credentials to rotate in for a good amount of minutes, preferably at two positions to give different looks. A combo guard, combo forward, or PF/c.

Otherwise I think there is a chance you stunt Beal and MKG's development. Bad lockerroom juju is as bad as bad coaching.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: airbelinelli on February 19, 2013, 09:40:17 PM
Filled out my starting 5
PG: Ty Lawson
SG: Bradley Beal
SF: MKG
PF: Thad Young
C: DMC

Thoughts?? Lawson is my oldest player and they're all tied up for at least the next few years.

I think that you need to look for a grey beard to rein in the youths. And I think it should be your next pick, a guy with impeccable character and leadership credentials to rotate in for a good amount of minutes, preferably at two positions to give different looks. A combo guard, combo forward, or PF/c.

Otherwise I think there is a chance you stunt Beal and MKG's development. Bad lockerroom juju is as bad as bad coaching.
If only i could pick Scal... championship experience
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: slamtheking on February 19, 2013, 09:48:06 PM
Filled out my starting 5
PG: Ty Lawson
SG: Bradley Beal
SF: MKG
PF: Thad Young
C: DMC

Thoughts?? Lawson is my oldest player and they're all tied up for at least the next few years.

I think that you need to look for a grey beard to rein in the youths. And I think it should be your next pick, a guy with impeccable character and leadership credentials to rotate in for a good amount of minutes, preferably at two positions to give different looks. A combo guard, combo forward, or PF/c.

Otherwise I think there is a chance you stunt Beal and MKG's development. Bad lockerroom juju is as bad as bad coaching.
If only i could pick Scal... championship experience
I think this is a pretty solid team in terms of young talent but I do agree with IP you could use a couple of vets in that lockerroom.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: slamtheking on February 19, 2013, 09:51:42 PM
End of day 2.

PG: Ricky Rubio
SG: Demar Derozan
SF: Paul Pierce
PF: Dirk Nowitzki
C: Deandre Jordan

Not planning on keeping Derozan

Only team right now that keeps catching my eye. Good job with that group
not a bad team.  I just don't see Jordan being the center that will get them over the top.  Also, Derozan and Rubio haven't improved enough to relieve the scoring burden from PP and Dirk. 

A pretty good roster that would make the playoffs and do respectably
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Who on February 20, 2013, 08:55:47 AM
End of day 2.

PG: Ricky Rubio
SG: Demar Derozan
SF: Paul Pierce
PF: Dirk Nowitzki
C: Deandre Jordan

Not planning on keeping Derozan

Contender. I really like this team.

Ditto - Title Contender

I would strongly inclined to keep DeRozan. Maybe get a wing defender / shooter off the bench instead of trying to plug in someone as a starter. Play with two scoring wings that the opponent's defense has to account for. DeRozan has come on nicely this year. It would take a hefty offer for me to let him go.

As for the bench, I think you would be wise to keep pursuing players with good quickness and athleticism. You have done a really nice job of that so far with D.Jordan, R.Rubio and D.DeRozan.

I think it's important to keep surrounding Pierce and Dirk with players who play with quickness, energy and good activity levels. Those two guys (Dirk, Pierce) are seriously slow-footed nowadays.

Need to find shooters in the backcourt off the bench too.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: jgod213 on February 20, 2013, 09:02:29 AM
End of day 2.

PG: Ricky Rubio
SG: Demar Derozan
SF: Paul Pierce
PF: Dirk Nowitzki
C: Deandre Jordan

Not planning on keeping Derozan

Contender. I really like this team.

Ditto - Title Contender

I would strongly inclined to keep DeRozan. Maybe get a wing defender / shooter off the bench instead of trying to plug in someone as a starter. Play with two scoring wings that the opponent's defense has to account for. DeRozan has come on nicely this year. It would take a hefty offer for me to let him go.

As for the bench, I think you would be wise to keep pursuing players with good quickness and athleticism. You have done a really nice job of that so far with D.Jordan, R.Rubio and D.DeRozan.

I think it's important to keep surrounding Pierce and Dirk with players who play with quickness, energy and good activity levels. Those two guys (Dirk, Pierce) are seriously slow-footed nowadays.

Need to find shooters in the backcourt off the bench too.

Yeah if possible I'd bring Derozen off the bench as a microwave guy.  As a 23% career 3-pt shooter I just can't see him and Rubio in a backcourt together for extended runs. 

Bu with the plethora of quality 2-guards out there I think you're sitting pretty to address that.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Who on February 20, 2013, 09:12:55 AM
End of day 2.

PG: Ricky Rubio
SG: Demar Derozan
SF: Paul Pierce
PF: Dirk Nowitzki
C: Deandre Jordan

Not planning on keeping Derozan

Contender. I really like this team.

Ditto - Title Contender

I would strongly inclined to keep DeRozan. Maybe get a wing defender / shooter off the bench instead of trying to plug in someone as a starter. Play with two scoring wings that the opponent's defense has to account for. DeRozan has come on nicely this year. It would take a hefty offer for me to let him go.

As for the bench, I think you would be wise to keep pursuing players with good quickness and athleticism. You have done a really nice job of that so far with D.Jordan, R.Rubio and D.DeRozan.

I think it's important to keep surrounding Pierce and Dirk with players who play with quickness, energy and good activity levels. Those two guys (Dirk, Pierce) are seriously slow-footed nowadays.

Need to find shooters in the backcourt off the bench too.

Yeah if possible I'd bring Derozen off the bench as a microwave guy.  As a 23% career 3-pt shooter I just can't see him and Rubio in a backcourt together for extended runs. 

Bu with the plethora of quality 2-guards out there I think you're sitting pretty to address that.

I wonder if they can't get away with DeRozan and Rubio together.

Pierce and Dirk are two top notch jump-shooters with unlimited range.

DeRozan lacks a three point shot but he is a good two point jump shooter. He has a really good jump in the midrange areas and a long two point jump shot all the way out to 20-22 feet. It's not like he is a non-shooter. He has good range and versatility on his two point jump-shot.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: fairweatherfan on February 20, 2013, 09:15:31 AM
All right, here's the new-look Knicks

PG: Conley Jr
SG:  ??? ???
SF: Carmelo
PF: Millsap
C: Chandler

No picks today but 2 consecutive tomorrow afternoon - I'll need to fill in my SG hole and take a key bench guy.  But I'm loving this core.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Rondo2287 on February 20, 2013, 09:16:32 AM
All right, here's the new-look Knicks

PG: Conley Jr
SG:  ??? ???
SF: Carmelo
PF: Millsap
C: Chandler

No picks today but 2 consecutive tomorrow afternoon - I'll need to fill in my SG hole and take a key bench guy.  But I'm loving this core.

Very very nice
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: StartOrien on February 20, 2013, 09:18:04 AM
All right, here's the new-look Knicks

PG: Conley Jr
SG:  ??? ???
SF: Carmelo
PF: Millsap
C: Chandler

No picks today but 2 consecutive tomorrow afternoon - I'll need to fill in my SG hole and take a key bench guy.  But I'm loving this core.

And the good news for you is that there's tons of good 2's left. I wouldn't jump up unless you absolutely had to.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: fairweatherfan on February 20, 2013, 09:18:19 AM
All right, here's the new-look Knicks

PG: Conley Jr
SG:  ??? ???
SF: Carmelo
PF: Millsap
C: Chandler

No picks today but 2 consecutive tomorrow afternoon - I'll need to fill in my SG hole and take a key bench guy.  But I'm loving this core.

Very very nice

As always, saying something nice about my team gets a TP.  :)
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Who on February 20, 2013, 09:24:42 AM
Raptors
C: Bogut
PF: Ibaka
SF: Gay
SG:
PG: Lowry

Thoughts?

Really good team if Bogut can stay healthy.

Defensively, they should be top notch. Offensively, not so great but good enough to take advantage of their defense and win a good number of games. I am thinking something like a 50-53 win team at the moment.

A strong supporting cast could push that win total up another notch or two though.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Who on February 20, 2013, 09:29:45 AM
Russell Westbrook
Kevin Martin
SF
PF
J.J Hickson

PG
Jamal Crawford
SF
PF
Javale McGee

I wanted to build a deep team and with 3.3, 4.5, and 4.9 i think i can

Why start JJ Hickson over JaVale McGee?

I am struggling to think of anything that Hickson does better than McGee at the five spot.

On the other hand, I can think of several things McGee does better than Hickson. Namely (1) shot-blocking and overall rim protection (2) individual man-to-man and post defense against centers who often too big and long for Hickson to cover adequately (3) superior range of finishing around the basket with McGee's added size, length and athleticism (4) shot-creation out of the low post.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Who on February 20, 2013, 09:31:03 AM
All right, here's the new-look Knicks

PG: Conley Jr
SG:  ??? ???
SF: Carmelo
PF: Millsap
C: Chandler

No picks today but 2 consecutive tomorrow afternoon - I'll need to fill in my SG hole and take a key bench guy.  But I'm loving this core.

Title contender. Right there with Miami for the Best Team in the East.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: BleedGreen1989 on February 20, 2013, 09:32:58 AM
All right, here's the new-look Knicks

PG: Conley Jr
SG:  ??? ???
SF: Carmelo
PF: Millsap
C: Chandler

No picks today but 2 consecutive tomorrow afternoon - I'll need to fill in my SG hole and take a key bench guy.  But I'm loving this core.

Title contender. Right there with Miami for the Best Team in the East.

yea I'm not a big fan of Milsap but he fits really well on your team.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Who on February 20, 2013, 10:24:57 AM
Filled out my starting 5
PG: Ty Lawson
SG: Bradley Beal
SF: MKG
PF: Thad Young
C: DMC

Thoughts?? Lawson is my oldest player and they're all tied up for at least the next few years.

I really liked the acquisitions of MKG and Thad Young at the forward positions. I think both guys will fit in very well. Selfless players who play with a lot of intensity defensively.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Atzar on February 20, 2013, 11:16:20 AM
Alright, here's what I have so far.

Tony Parker
Danny Green / Monta Ellis
--
Tristan Thompson
Pau Gasol

Getting nervous about that SF spot.  There just aren't many good ones left. 

Aside from that, I like this team so far.  Parker and Gasol are both elite at their respective positions and are good two-way players.  I can win with them. 

I like Thompson as a guy who can defend multiple positions and hustle next to Gasol, and he's really the only guy on my team with upside. 

I don't like Ellis as a starter on this team, but rather than trade him at depressed value I'm going to use him as a sixth man in the Ginobili mold.  He should be dangerous in that role.

Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: nickagneta on February 20, 2013, 11:21:46 AM
So let's get this out of the way as this will probably be staying this way until Friday.

LAKERS

STARTERS:

PG: Deron Williams $17.18 million
SG: J. J. Redick $6.19 million
SF:
PF: Andrei Kirilenko $9.78 million
C: Dwight Howard $19.54 million

BENCH

C/PF: Tiago Splitter $3.94 million


Total salary spent: $56.63 million
Cap remaining: $42.67 million
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: indeedproceed on February 20, 2013, 11:25:44 AM
So let's get this out of the way as this will probably be staying this way until Friday.

LAKERS

STARTERS:

PG: Deron Williams $17.18 million
SG: J. J. Redick $6.19 million
SF:
PF: Andrei Kirilenko $9.78 million
C: Dwight Howard $19.54 million

BENCH

C/PF: Tiago Splitter $3.94 million


Total salary spent: $56.63 million
Cap remaining: $42.67 million

You know who would literally bring that team together like Voltron? Ryan Anderson. AK-47 moves back to the 3, Anderson at the 4, Splitter 'Splitting' (ha) time as the backup 4 and 5. It would be perfect.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: fairweatherfan on February 20, 2013, 11:28:22 AM
So let's get this out of the way as this will probably be staying this way until Friday.

LAKERS

STARTERS:

PG: Deron Williams $17.18 million
SG: J. J. Redick $6.19 million
SF:
PF: Andrei Kirilenko $9.78 million
C: Dwight Howard $19.54 million

BENCH

C/PF: Tiago Splitter $3.94 million


Total salary spent: $56.63 million
Cap remaining: $42.67 million

Very strong frontcourt D, but lacks a go-to scorer, unless 2009 Deron comes walking through that door.  And perimeter D will be an issue as well.

If you can successfully improve via another team's salary dump, this can go from a top 6ish team to a top 3. 

Also, there's a guy who will probably still be around for your next pick who could help your weaknesses (EDIT: well, one of em) while his teammates hide his, but it won't be a popular choice.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: nickagneta on February 20, 2013, 11:28:59 AM
So let's get this out of the way as this will probably be staying this way until Friday.

LAKERS

STARTERS:

PG: Deron Williams $17.18 million
SG: J. J. Redick $6.19 million
SF:
PF: Andrei Kirilenko $9.78 million
C: Dwight Howard $19.54 million

BENCH

C/PF: Tiago Splitter $3.94 million


Total salary spent: $56.63 million
Cap remaining: $42.67 million

You know who would literally bring that team together like Voltron? Ryan Anderson. AK-47 moves back to the 3, Anderson at the 4, Splitter 'Splitting' (ha) time as the backup 4 and 5. It would be perfect.
And what exactly would a player of Ryan Anderson's unimpeachable talent cost me knowing that his addition would create such a near perfect team? I wonder....
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: indeedproceed on February 20, 2013, 11:35:29 AM
So let's get this out of the way as this will probably be staying this way until Friday.

LAKERS

STARTERS:

PG: Deron Williams $17.18 million
SG: J. J. Redick $6.19 million
SF:
PF: Andrei Kirilenko $9.78 million
C: Dwight Howard $19.54 million

BENCH

C/PF: Tiago Splitter $3.94 million


Total salary spent: $56.63 million
Cap remaining: $42.67 million

You know who would literally bring that team together like Voltron? Ryan Anderson. AK-47 moves back to the 3, Anderson at the 4, Splitter 'Splitting' (ha) time as the backup 4 and 5. It would be perfect.
And what exactly would a player of Ryan Anderson's unimpeachable talent cost me knowing that his addition would create such a near perfect team? I wonder....

Ah, I don't see anything I want really. for all the nice value Ryan Anderson has for you, he has more for me.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: AB_Celtic on February 20, 2013, 11:39:54 AM
Starting lineup:

PG: B.Jennings
SG: W.Matthews
SF: M.Webster
PF: D.Lee
 C: N.Pekovic

No real star here, but a lot of ball movement, good scoring, and good defense. I know I need a slasher and I'll be looking to get one in the later rounds.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Atzar on February 20, 2013, 11:54:51 AM
Starting lineup:

PG: B.Jennings
SG: W.Matthews
SF: M.Webster
PF: D.Lee
 C: N.Pekovic

No real star here, but a lot of ball movement, good scoring, and good defense. I know I need a slasher and I'll be looking to get one in the later rounds.


I might try to move Jennings, perhaps for a wing scorer so you can bring Webster off the bench (not crazy about him as a starter).  His Iverson-lite mentality wouldn't get the most out of Lee and Pek.  You need a guy who is content to run the offense through the post game. 

There's a certain overlooked guy in Atlanta who would fit that description for you. 
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: nickagneta on February 20, 2013, 11:58:17 AM
So let's get this out of the way as this will probably be staying this way until Friday.

LAKERS

STARTERS:

PG: Deron Williams $17.18 million
SG: J. J. Redick $6.19 million
SF:
PF: Andrei Kirilenko $9.78 million
C: Dwight Howard $19.54 million

BENCH

C/PF: Tiago Splitter $3.94 million


Total salary spent: $56.63 million
Cap remaining: $42.67 million

Very strong frontcourt D, but lacks a go-to scorer, unless 2009 Deron comes walking through that door.  And perimeter D will be an issue as well.

If you can successfully improve via another team's salary dump, this can go from a top 6ish team to a top 3. 

Also, there's a guy who will probably still be around for your next pick who could help your weaknesses (EDIT: well, one of em) while his teammates hide his, but it won't be a popular choice.
I actually have had that guy eyed in for my 5.24 pick all along as I just don't think anyone will touch him. But, for what he brings in areas I need help in, he's what I need.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: BleedGreen1989 on February 20, 2013, 12:01:12 PM
I like it when people talk about my team...
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: nickagneta on February 20, 2013, 12:05:45 PM
I like it when people talk about my team...
You're team has really nice uniforms......

.....

.....


Yeah, that's all I got.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Atzar on February 20, 2013, 12:17:22 PM
I like it when people talk about my team...

I'm not a fan of Kemba Walker as a point guard at all.  I think he's just bad at 5-on-5 basketball.  There's way too much iso and way too little ball movement in Charlotte, and I think this guy is part of the problem.

Mayo is a very solid 2-guard now, and I like Batum a lot as a glue guy.  Can't really comment on Vucevic since I haven't seen him play much, but his stats are nice. 

Overall, not crazy about the team.  The Mayo/Batum/Vucevic trio is pretty nice and there's some synergy and untapped potential there, but I'd get Walker as far away from them as possible. 
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: wdleehi on February 20, 2013, 12:20:18 PM
I like it when people talk about my team...


OJ Mayo, pick and roll.


Do you have the right guy to pick with? 
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on February 20, 2013, 12:38:41 PM
Chicago Bulls: After 3
($13 Million left to spend, it's going to be tight)

PG - Andre Iguodala (not a PG but starting as a PG)
SG - Joe Johnson    (scorer, closer, cap eater, just like a Hummer gulps gas)
SF - Luol Deng      (LeBron/KD/Melo annoy-er)
PF - Elton Brand    (old man strength FTW)
C  - Joakim Noah    (defensive anchor, coolest guy on the team)

Complete and total lock down, inside and out.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: wdleehi on February 20, 2013, 12:41:53 PM
Warriors  (38.5 million left to spend)

PG  Curry
SG (though likely 6th man before this is done) Bledsoe
SF Gallinari
PF Landry
C  M. Gasol
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: wdleehi on February 20, 2013, 12:44:38 PM
Chicago Bulls: After 3
($13 Million left to spend, it's going to be tight)

PG - Andre Iguodala (not a PG but starting as a PG)
SG - Joe Johnson    (scorer, closer, cap eater, just like a Hummer gulps gas)
SF - Luol Deng      (LeBron/KD/Melo annoy-er)
PF - Elton Brand    (old man strength FTW)
C  - Joakim Noah    (defensive anchor, coolest guy on the team)

Complete and total lock down, inside and out.


A lot of weapons but no one to efficiently run them.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on February 20, 2013, 12:45:28 PM
Warriors  (38.5 million left to spend)

PG  Curry
SG (though likely 6th man before this is done) Bledsoe
SF Gallinari
PF Landry
C  M. Gasol

Like this team offensively, worried about your wings when playing a superstar SF and SG. I'm not sure CUrry, Bledsoe and Gallo can hang tight with Superstar wings. Marc Gasol to the rescue?
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on February 20, 2013, 12:46:25 PM
Chicago Bulls: After 3
($13 Million left to spend, it's going to be tight)

PG - Andre Iguodala (not a PG but starting as a PG)
SG - Joe Johnson    (scorer, closer, cap eater, just like a Hummer gulps gas)
SF - Luol Deng      (LeBron/KD/Melo annoy-er)
PF - Elton Brand    (old man strength FTW)
C  - Joakim Noah    (defensive anchor, coolest guy on the team)

Complete and total lock down, inside and out.


A lot of weapons but no one to efficiently run them.

Iggy and JJ were effective Point Forwards during their careers, I'm pretty sure they can run things.

Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: wdleehi on February 20, 2013, 12:47:06 PM
Warriors  (38.5 million left to spend)

PG  Curry
SG (though likely 6th man before this is done) Bledsoe
SF Gallinari
PF Landry
C  M. Gasol

Like this team offensively, worried about your wings when playing a superstar SF and SG. I'm not sure CUrry, Bledsoe and Gallo can hang tight with Superstar wings. Marc Gasol to the rescue?

Oh, I agree that I need a wing stopper or two.


But there are plenty of them available. 
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Atzar on February 20, 2013, 01:08:06 PM
Tony Parker
Danny Green / Monta Ellis

Tristan Thompson
Pau Gasol



Thoughts?
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: indeedproceed on February 20, 2013, 01:09:24 PM
Tony Parker
Danny Green / Monta Ellis

Tristan Thompson
Pau Gasol



Thoughts?

Pretty darn good. I like Monta in that role, even if he hates it dearly.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Who on February 20, 2013, 01:20:03 PM
Chicago Bulls: After 3
($13 Million left to spend, it's going to be tight)

PG - Andre Iguodala (not a PG but starting as a PG)
SG - Joe Johnson    (scorer, closer, cap eater, just like a Hummer gulps gas)
SF - Luol Deng      (LeBron/KD/Melo annoy-er)
PF - Elton Brand    (old man strength FTW)
C  - Joakim Noah    (defensive anchor, coolest guy on the team)

Complete and total lock down, inside and out.

Dynamite defensive team and rebounding unit but I think you are really going to struggle to score efficiently. Probably be one of the weaker offensive teams in the league.

I still think you would be better off going small with Deng at PF, Iggy at SF and JJ at SG with a proper point guard leading the way. Someone like Jeff Teague was who I was imagining in this role. I think you will gain more offensively than you will concede defensively and rebounding wise. Make you a better team.

Unfortunately, with Teague just getting picked, I am not sure there are many cheap starting quality PGs left on the draft board. Might be tricky.

I think Elton Brand is a very good backup big man at this stage in his career and his ability to play both PF and C gives you good lineup flexibility. Whatever role you decide on for him, I don't think he can be relied on for more than 20-25 minutes a night.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: celticpride07 on February 20, 2013, 01:40:02 PM
Chicago Bulls: After 3
($13 Million left to spend, it's going to be tight)

PG - Andre Iguodala (not a PG but starting as a PG)
SG - Joe Johnson    (scorer, closer, cap eater, just like a Hummer gulps gas)
SF - Luol Deng      (LeBron/KD/Melo annoy-er)
PF - Elton Brand    (old man strength FTW)
C  - Joakim Noah    (defensive anchor, coolest guy on the team)

Complete and total lock down, inside and out.

I would trade iggy and a good pg. iggy didn't impress me at all last night against the celtics, lots of air balls
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on February 20, 2013, 01:44:41 PM
Chicago Bulls: After 3
($13 Million left to spend, it's going to be tight)

PG - Andre Iguodala (not a PG but starting as a PG)
SG - Joe Johnson    (scorer, closer, cap eater, just like a Hummer gulps gas)
SF - Luol Deng      (LeBron/KD/Melo annoy-er)
PF - Elton Brand    (old man strength FTW)
C  - Joakim Noah    (defensive anchor, coolest guy on the team)

Complete and total lock down, inside and out.

I would trade iggy and a good pg. iggy didn't impress me at all last night against the celtics, lots of air balls

3 rebounds, 7 assists, 1 block, 2 steals, 1 turnover in 29 minutes. Sure, he didn't shoot well, but look at that line, im pretty sure contributed enough.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Who on February 20, 2013, 01:49:11 PM
Warriors  (38.5 million left to spend)

PG  Curry
SG (though likely 6th man before this is done) Bledsoe
SF Gallinari
PF Landry
C  M. Gasol

The Warriors are in very good shape.

Plenty of talent left at SG to fill that final starting spot with a quality player.

I would keep Carl Landry in a bench role. I think he gets exploited, his weakness defensively and in terms of rebounding, as a starter. I think he is best off as a 25-28mpg backup PF.

So I would look to bring in a starting PF. Either a PF/C who can slide to center when M.Gasol goes to the bench and play alongside C.Landry. Or a 20mpg part time starting PF who is a stronger defender/rebounder than Landry is.

E.Bledsoe and C.Landry would give you two of the best bench in the leagues. A great starting place for a dominant bench unit.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on February 20, 2013, 01:50:58 PM
Chicago Bulls: After 3
($13 Million left to spend, it's going to be tight)

PG - Andre Iguodala (not a PG but starting as a PG)
SG - Joe Johnson    (scorer, closer, cap eater, just like a Hummer gulps gas)
SF - Luol Deng      (LeBron/KD/Melo annoy-er)
PF - Elton Brand    (old man strength FTW)
C  - Joakim Noah    (defensive anchor, coolest guy on the team)

Complete and total lock down, inside and out.

Dynamite defensive team and rebounding unit but I think you are really going to struggle to score efficiently. Probably be one of the weaker offensive teams in the league.

I still think you would be better off going small with Deng at PF, Iggy at SF and JJ at SG with a proper point guard leading the way. Someone like Jeff Teague was who I was imagining in this role. I think you will gain more offensively than you will concede defensively and rebounding wise. Make you a better team.

Unfortunately, with Teague just getting picked, I am not sure there are many cheap starting quality PGs left on the draft board. Might be tricky.

I think Elton Brand is a very good backup big man at this stage in his career and his ability to play both PF and C gives you good lineup flexibility. Whatever role you decide on for him, I don't think he can be relied on for more than 20-25 minutes a night.



66.2 Points/game for the starters. Sure, it's pretty low but I think there are  help coming their way. Defensively, they can probably hold the opponent to 65, and that's good enough for us.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: snively on February 20, 2013, 02:51:12 PM
I have the Rockets tentative starting line-up in place:

Manu/Harden/W. Chandler/Nene/Hawes.

Any thoughts on what I should prioritize from here.  About $25 mil left to spend.

Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Atzar on February 20, 2013, 03:02:26 PM
I have the Rockets tentative starting line-up in place:

Manu/Harden/W. Chandler/Nene/Hawes.

Any thoughts on what I should prioritize from here.  About $25 mil left to spend.

Pretty solid 2-5.  Not sure Ginobili can defend the PG position.  I'd definitely go for a real PG.  You might consider starting Manu at the 2, Harden at the 3 and bringing Chandler off the bench.  Just my two cents.

Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: CelticConcourse on February 20, 2013, 03:32:44 PM
Tony Parker
Danny Green / Monta Ellis

Tristan Thompson
Pau Gasol

Thoughts?

I dunno, but it appears Tristan Thompson is the one guy that doesn't fit. I would trade him for a vet PF, and another guy.

It's kind of hard to run a team with such diverse ages since by the time T2 is mature enough to be a star, the rest will be too old
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: CelticConcourse on February 20, 2013, 03:33:12 PM
I have the Rockets tentative starting line-up in place:

Manu/Harden/W. Chandler/Nene/Hawes.

Any thoughts on what I should prioritize from here.  About $25 mil left to spend.

Harden can play PG too
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: StartOrien on February 20, 2013, 03:35:52 PM
I have the Rockets tentative starting line-up in place:

Manu/Harden/W. Chandler/Nene/Hawes.

Any thoughts on what I should prioritize from here.  About $25 mil left to spend.

Harden can play PG too

Love the team, but wasn't crazy about the Hawes pick.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Atzar on February 20, 2013, 03:36:39 PM
Tony Parker
Danny Green / Monta Ellis

Tristan Thompson
Pau Gasol

Thoughts?

I dunno, but it appears Tristan Thompson is the one guy that doesn't fit. I would trade him for a vet PF, and another guy.

It's kind of hard to run a team with such diverse ages since by the time T2 is mature enough to be a star, the rest will be too old

I don't need him to be a star.  Frankly, I don't ever expect him to be a star.

I do expect him to provide energy, defend multiple positions, and rebound the heck out of the basketball.  All of those are things he's plenty capable of doing right now.  He's not a particularly good scorer at this point, but between Parker, Green, Ellis and Gasol I have that part covered.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: StartOrien on February 20, 2013, 03:38:37 PM
Tell me how you like me

Pick 2 Draft - Boston Celtics (71.6) Remaining (35.2)
C: Duncan (9.6)  PF: Garnett (11.5) SF: J Dudley (4.2)
SG: JR Smith (2.8 ), PG: Jeremy Lin (8.3)

Picks: 4.20, 4.26, 6-11 .20
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Lucky17 on February 20, 2013, 03:42:41 PM
Portland lineup:

PG: Damian Lillard
SG: Thabo Sefolosha
SF: Tayshaun Prince
PF: David West
C:  LaMarcus Aldridge

Bench: Jason Terry, Jonas Valanciunas

We were very pleased with our third round selections today. With the exception of Danny Green, we got everyone we'd targeted.

The scoring load will be assumed by Lillard, West, and LMA. Sef and Tay will provide very good wing defense, with adequate floor spacing as well. Tay can also help with running the offense, as he is a skilled passer who will keep the ball moving.

Terry will be our 6th man, backing up both guard positions, and providing shooting and scoring off the bench.

Jonas will back up LMA at C. With West and LMA, we like the mix and match options for frontcourt setups. I think we could also run an effective small-ball lineup at times with Tayshaun at PF (against opposing stretch 4s, for example).

Our next pick isn't until the 6th round, unfortunately. But, with nearly $25 million of payroll remaining, we think we can round the roster out with good role players.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Evantime34 on February 20, 2013, 03:52:47 PM
Chris Paul
Iman Shumpert
Kyle Korver
Blake Griffin
Larry Sanders

thoughts?
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: jgod213 on February 20, 2013, 03:55:13 PM
Tell me how you like me

Pick 2 Draft - Boston Celtics (71.6) Remaining (35.2)
C: Duncan (9.6)  PF: Garnett (11.5) SF: J Dudley (4.2)
SG: JR Smith (2.8 ), PG: Jeremy Lin (8.3)

Picks: 4.20, 4.26, 6-11 .20

That guard play is going to be a hell of a roller coaster.  A lot of exciting plays and explosive games mixed with a fair share of turnovers and shot selection questions.  But when you mix that with 3 of the more consistent and dependable players in the game I think that more than mediates those issues.

1 dependable big man to add to that rotation and that's a team fit for a deep playoff run.

1 question: What's the offensive gameplan here? Who is the focal point?
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Lucky17 on February 20, 2013, 03:58:55 PM
Chris Paul
Iman Shumpert
Kyle Korver
Blake Griffin
Larry Sanders

thoughts?

With the exception of Korver, the makings of an athletic team with potentially nightmarish defensive pressure for opposing teams.

Backup wings and bigs will be key, both for depth and for lineup versatility. Could use another shooter, maybe two?

Hire a free throw coach.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: jgod213 on February 20, 2013, 04:06:12 PM
Chris Paul
Iman Shumpert
Kyle Korver
Blake Griffin
Larry Sanders

thoughts?

With the exception of Korver, the makings of an athletic team with potentially nightmarish defensive pressure for opposing teams.

Backup wings and bigs will be key, both for depth and for lineup versatility. Could use another shooter, maybe two?

Hire a free throw coach.

A few vets would be a nice touch as well.  CP3 has a lot of leadership responsibility on his shoulders with that (very talented) group.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: BleedGreen1989 on February 20, 2013, 04:07:15 PM
How about my smoorgishboard of young players?

I think the average age of my team is like 22 lol
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: StartOrien on February 20, 2013, 04:09:34 PM
Chris Paul
Iman Shumpert
Kyle Korver
Blake Griffin
Larry Sanders

thoughts?

Love the Shump addition. I actually wasn't crazy about hte Korver pick but now that you've added him it's not as big of a deal. Still think you need a more pure center
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: jgod213 on February 20, 2013, 04:09:57 PM
Portland lineup:

PG: Damian Lillard
SG: Thabo Sefolosha
SF: Tayshaun Prince
PF: David West
C:  LaMarcus Aldridge

Bench: Jason Terry, Jonas Valanciunas

I love what you've done with the Blazers, and I think the Rose Garden would, too.

What better duo is there for JV to learn behind than Aldrige and West, two guys that do it the right way.

A little bit more athleticism would be a nice compliment off the bench.  Someone that can take the dribble-drive load off of Lilliard would help.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: StartOrien on February 20, 2013, 04:13:27 PM
How about my smoorgishboard of young players?

I think the average age of my team is like 22 lol

Like T-Rob. Concerned about ball movement 1-3.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Lucky17 on February 20, 2013, 04:15:26 PM
Portland lineup:

PG: Damian Lillard
SG: Thabo Sefolosha
SF: Tayshaun Prince
PF: David West
C:  LaMarcus Aldridge

Bench: Jason Terry, Jonas Valanciunas

I love what you've done with the Blazers, and I think the Rose Garden would, too.

What better duo is there for JV to learn behind than Aldrige and West, two guys that do it the right way.

A little bit more athleticism would be a nice compliment off the bench.  Someone that can take the dribble-drive load off of Lilliard would help.

TP. Athleticism: which slots? You mean, a human pogo-stick type at PF and a slasher wing?
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Atzar on February 20, 2013, 04:15:52 PM
How about my smoorgishboard of young players?

I think the average age of my team is like 22 lol

I love the Teague pick.  He's apparently very underrated here - no way he should have lasted deep into the third round.  Kemba should be considerably better as a gun off the bench than he is as the starting PG.

PF is the obvious weakness of your team.  Robinson and Henson have potential but haven't done much of anything. 
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: StartOrien on February 20, 2013, 04:16:13 PM
Tell me how you like me

Pick 2 Draft - Boston Celtics (71.6) Remaining (35.2)
C: Duncan (9.6)  PF: Garnett (11.5) SF: J Dudley (4.2)
SG: JR Smith (2.8 ), PG: Jeremy Lin (8.3)

Picks: 4.20, 4.26, 6-11 .20

That guard play is going to be a hell of a roller coaster.  A lot of exciting plays and explosive games mixed with a fair share of turnovers and shot selection questions.  But when you mix that with 3 of the more consistent and dependable players in the game I think that more than mediates those issues.

1 dependable big man to add to that rotation and that's a team fit for a deep playoff run.

1 question: What's the offensive gameplan here? Who is the focal point?

It's a 1a, 1b but probably run things through Garnett in the high post. He's more active setting screens on the perimeter while Duncan is probably fighting for position.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: StartOrien on February 20, 2013, 04:17:06 PM
If you're going to post your team, comment on other people's team.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Who on February 20, 2013, 04:19:30 PM
I have the Rockets tentative starting line-up in place:

Manu/Harden/W. Chandler/Nene/Hawes.

Any thoughts on what I should prioritize from here.  About $25 mil left to spend.

Pretty solid 2-5.  Not sure Ginobili can defend the PG position.  I'd definitely go for a real PG.  You might consider starting Manu at the 2, Harden at the 3 and bringing Chandler off the bench.  Just my two cents.

Yes, I would be worried about PG defense too. I don't think Manu is up to defending the PG position for any prolonged length of time at this stage in his career. When he was younger, definitely. Harden can't defend PGs either.

So that would be a priority for me. Finding a point guard. Having Harden and Manu, with their PG-skills, make it very easy to slot in just about anyone in that PG position. So you will have the pick of the bunch.

I would bring Ginobili off the bench and keep W.Chandler as a starter because of Chandler's defensive ability at SF. Ginobili will give you one hell of a game changer off the bench.

I would also target a talented backup forward for when Hawes goes out and Nene slides to the center position. Either a PF to play alongside Nene. Or a SF with W.Chandler sliding over to PF. Someone who can give you more quickness defensively and has a jump shot.

I think with those two pieces you will have a rock solid 7 man rotation. From there, just situational substitutes.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: CelticConcourse on February 20, 2013, 04:20:35 PM
Tell me how you like me

Pick 2 Draft - Boston Celtics (71.6) Remaining (35.2)
C: Duncan (9.6)  PF: Garnett (11.5) SF: J Dudley (4.2)
SG: JR Smith (2.8 ), PG: Jeremy Lin (8.3)

Picks: 4.20, 4.26, 6-11 .20

Yep, you might want to get a more consistent guard because both Lin and JR are capable of 35-point games, as well as 4-20 shooting nights. When both aren't playing well, at least you can get another scorer in (or passer).

That frontcourt is pretty good, to say the least ;D

If you're going to post your team, comment on other people's team.
Good idea
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Lucky17 on February 20, 2013, 04:21:16 PM
How about my smoorgishboard of young players?

I think the average age of my team is like 22 lol

Definitely need to target some veterans to help keep the ship steady.

Although individually very skilled, the Teague/Walker/Mayo backcourt combo seems a little redundant in skill set. Seems like a lot of rock-pounding to me (although I could be way off). I might trade one for the purest shooter you could find.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Evantime34 on February 20, 2013, 04:21:31 PM
Chris Paul
Iman Shumpert
Kyle Korver
Blake Griffin
Larry Sanders

thoughts?

Love the Shump addition. I actually wasn't crazy about hte Korver pick but now that you've added him it's not as big of a deal. Still think you need a more pure center
Yeah, tbh yesterday might have been too early to pick Korver. I was working my first day at a temp job and didn't have enough time to look at my spreadsheet. I ended up making a rushed pick so I didn't get skipped.

I demand you watch more bucks games (just close your eyes anytime Ellis or Jennings is about to take a bad shot), if you do you will see Sanders is the real deal.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: CelticConcourse on February 20, 2013, 04:22:37 PM
Chris Paul
Iman Shumpert
Kyle Korver
Blake Griffin
Larry Sanders

thoughts?

Love the Shump addition. I actually wasn't crazy about hte Korver pick but now that you've added him it's not as big of a deal. Still think you need a more pure center
Yeah, tbh yesterday might have been too early to pick Korver. I was working my first day at a temp job and didn't have enough time to look at my spreadsheet. I ended up making a rushed pick so I didn't get skipped.

I demand you watch more bucks games (just close your eyes anytime Ellis or Jennings is about to take a bad shot), if you do you will see Sanders is the real deal.

I suggest getting a big who can shoot free throws as well.

Griffin + Sanders = 60% shooting everywhere O_O
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: CelticsFan9 on February 20, 2013, 04:24:46 PM
I have the Rockets tentative starting line-up in place:

Manu/Harden/W. Chandler/Nene/Hawes.

Any thoughts on what I should prioritize from here.  About $25 mil left to spend.

Pretty solid 2-5.  Not sure Ginobili can defend the PG position.  I'd definitely go for a real PG.  You might consider starting Manu at the 2, Harden at the 3 and bringing Chandler off the bench.  Just my two cents.

Yes, I would be worried about PG defense too. I don't think Manu is up to defending the PG position for any prolonged length of time at this stage in his career. When he was younger, definitely. Harden can't defend PGs either.

So that would be a priority for me. Finding a point guard. Having Harden and Manu, with their PG-skills, make it very easy to slot in just about anyone in that PG position. So you will have the pick of the bunch.

I would bring Ginobili off the bench and keep W.Chandler as a starter because of Chandler's defensive ability at SF. Ginobili will give you one hell of a game changer off the bench.

I would also target a talented backup forward for when Hawes goes out and Nene slides to the center position. Either a PF to play alongside Nene. Or a SF with W.Chandler sliding over to PF. Someone who can give you more quickness defensively and has a jump shot.

I think with those two pieces you will have a rock solid 7 man rotation. From there, just situational substitutes.

There is still a PG out there that I'm stunned hasn't been selected yet.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: celticpride07 on February 20, 2013, 04:25:27 PM
SUNS Pick 2:
PG: Goran Dragic(7.5)
SG: Dwyane Wade(17.1)
SF: Gerald Wallace(9.88)
PF:Carlos Boozer(15)
C: Marcin Gortat(7.25)
Cap used: 56.73 Total: 70.3

Thoughts ? I have 4.1 where should I go with it?  obviously I need to target players on cheap deals even though I want to spend
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: CelticConcourse on February 20, 2013, 04:27:05 PM
SUNS Pick 2:
PG: Goran Dragic(7.5)
SG: Dwyane Wade(17.1)
SF: Gerald Wallace(9.88)
PF:Carlos Boozer(15)
C: Marcin Gortat(7.25)
Cap used: 56.73 Total: 70.3

Thoughts ? I have 4.1 where should I go with it?  obviously I need to target players on cheap deals even though I want to spend

A guy who can knock down shots, just hangin' around the perimeter.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Atzar on February 20, 2013, 04:27:24 PM
SUNS Pick 2:
PG: Goran Dragic(7.5)
SG: Dwyane Wade(17.1)
SF: Gerald Wallace(9.88)
PF:Carlos Boozer(15)
C: Marcin Gortat(7.25)
Cap used: 56.73 Total: 70.3

Thoughts ? I have 4.1 where should I go with it?  obviously I needed to get players on cheap deals even though I want to spend

You badly need shooters.  Iffy jumpshots at every position.  No spacing on that team at all.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: jgod213 on February 20, 2013, 04:27:28 PM
Portland lineup:

PG: Damian Lillard
SG: Thabo Sefolosha
SF: Tayshaun Prince
PF: David West
C:  LaMarcus Aldridge

Bench: Jason Terry, Jonas Valanciunas

I love what you've done with the Blazers, and I think the Rose Garden would, too.

What better duo is there for JV to learn behind than Aldrige and West, two guys that do it the right way.

A little bit more athleticism would be a nice compliment off the bench.  Someone that can take the dribble-drive load off of Lilliard would help.

TP. Athleticism: which slots? You mean, a human pogo-stick type at PF and a slasher wing?

Yeah Lucky I'm more refering to athleticism on the wings/backcourt. Love Thabo/TeyTey, but they aren't going to playmake.  Lillard is that guy, but when he goes to the bench I'd like to see the Blazers with someone else who can pick up the slack in the creation department.

Your bigs are fine, I suppose some more athleticism wouldn't hurt there either but that's just nit picking haha.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: CelticConcourse on February 20, 2013, 04:28:48 PM
Oh yea, I want some feedback too!

Greivis Vásquez
Klay Thompson
Jeff Green
Zach Randolph
Omer Asik

($33,626,954 remaining)

4.15, 5.15, 7.15, 8.11, 8.15, 9.15, 9.19, 11.15

What type of guys do I want?

I'm thinking a stretch PF and shot-creators for my bench. If I could get a decent jump-shooting big man with my picks, it'd be great but... I'll have to get a good pick ;D I think my starting lineup is pretty good and can score 70ppg.

Jump shooters!
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: StartOrien on February 20, 2013, 04:29:23 PM
I have the Rockets tentative starting line-up in place:

Manu/Harden/W. Chandler/Nene/Hawes.

Any thoughts on what I should prioritize from here.  About $25 mil left to spend.

Pretty solid 2-5.  Not sure Ginobili can defend the PG position.  I'd definitely go for a real PG.  You might consider starting Manu at the 2, Harden at the 3 and bringing Chandler off the bench.  Just my two cents.

Yes, I would be worried about PG defense too. I don't think Manu is up to defending the PG position for any prolonged length of time at this stage in his career. When he was younger, definitely. Harden can't defend PGs either.

So that would be a priority for me. Finding a point guard. Having Harden and Manu, with their PG-skills, make it very easy to slot in just about anyone in that PG position. So you will have the pick of the bunch.

I would bring Ginobili off the bench and keep W.Chandler as a starter because of Chandler's defensive ability at SF. Ginobili will give you one hell of a game changer off the bench.

I would also target a talented backup forward for when Hawes goes out and Nene slides to the center position. Either a PF to play alongside Nene. Or a SF with W.Chandler sliding over to PF. Someone who can give you more quickness defensively and has a jump shot.

I think with those two pieces you will have a rock solid 7 man rotation. From there, just situational substitutes.

There is still a PG out there that I'm stunned hasn't been selected yet.

You sure you're not missing someone. I don't see anyone that I'm *stunned* is available.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: snively on February 20, 2013, 04:31:45 PM
Portland lineup:

PG: Damian Lillard
SG: Thabo Sefolosha
SF: Tayshaun Prince
PF: David West
C:  LaMarcus Aldridge

Bench: Jason Terry, Jonas Valanciunas

We were very pleased with our third round selections today. With the exception of Danny Green, we got everyone we'd targeted.

The scoring load will be assumed by Lillard, West, and LMA. Sef and Tay will provide very good wing defense, with adequate floor spacing as well. Tay can also help with running the offense, as he is a skilled passer who will keep the ball moving.

Terry will be our 6th man, backing up both guard positions, and providing shooting and scoring off the bench.

Jonas will back up LMA at C. With West and LMA, we like the mix and match options for frontcourt setups. I think we could also run an effective small-ball lineup at times with Tayshaun at PF (against opposing stretch 4s, for example).

Our next pick isn't until the 6th round, unfortunately. But, with nearly $25 million of payroll remaining, we think we can round the roster out with good role players.

So talented and well-balanced, but I'm bothered by the dependence of two rooks (Lillard and Val) on what should be a contending team.  I'd look to move Val to one of the youth movement teams and add a strong defensive C to fit in behind West and LMA.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Who on February 20, 2013, 04:31:52 PM
Tell me how you like me

Pick 2 Draft - Boston Celtics (71.6) Remaining (35.2)
C: Duncan (9.6)  PF: Garnett (11.5) SF: J Dudley (4.2)
SG: JR Smith (2.8 ), PG: Jeremy Lin (8.3)

Picks: 4.20, 4.26, 6-11 .20
There is something about Jeremy Lin and JR Smith together that worries me.

I am not totally sure what it is but there is something there. It doesn't feel right to me. I don't think the two of them should start with Duncan and Garnett. It doesn't feel like an effective combination to me.

I think one of them should move to the bench. JR Smith could move there very comfortably with a more low usage defensive SG taking his place in the starting lineup.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: AB_Celtic on February 20, 2013, 04:32:06 PM
Oh yea, I want some feedback too!

Greivis Vásquez
Klay Thompson
Jeff Green
Zach Randolph
Omer Asik

($33,626,954 remaining)

4.15, 5.15, 7.15, 8.11, 8.15, 9.15, 9.19, 11.15

What type of guys do I want?

I'm thinking a stretch PF and shot-creators for my bench. If I could get a decent jump-shooting big man with my picks, it'd be great but... I'll have to get a good pick ;D I think my starting lineup is pretty good and can score 70ppg.

Jump shooters!

You made some uneven trades that put you in a tough spot, but that's part of the learning process in these types of things.

I think you absolutely need to focus on defense for your bench though. That's just what I'd do.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: StartOrien on February 20, 2013, 04:35:27 PM
Tell me how you like me

Pick 2 Draft - Boston Celtics (71.6) Remaining (35.2)
C: Duncan (9.6)  PF: Garnett (11.5) SF: J Dudley (4.2)
SG: JR Smith (2.8 ), PG: Jeremy Lin (8.3)

Picks: 4.20, 4.26, 6-11 .20

There is something about Jeremy Lin and JR Smith together that worries me.

I am not totally sure what it is but there is something there.
  • Maybe it's that both guys are kind of high usage role players. Will eat too many possessions.
  • Or that neither one of them is particularly good at executing a set offense. That they will fail to get the best out of Tim Duncan and Kevin Garnett.
It doesn't feel right to me. I don't think the two of them should start with Duncan and Garnett. It doesn't feel like an effective combination to me.

I think one of them should move to the bench. JR Smith could move there very comfortably with a more low usage defensive SG taking his place in the starting lineup.

Thanks for the feedback, Who. It's a strong possibility that one of them will end up on the bench. When I picked them both, I had other guys I liked just the same but I thought I needed a little more shot-creation. Now that I've got two guys who are capable of doing that I think I can start to look at different types of players.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: CelticConcourse on February 20, 2013, 04:35:51 PM
Portland lineup:

PG: Damian Lillard
SG: Thabo Sefolosha
SF: Tayshaun Prince
PF: David West
C:  LaMarcus Aldridge

Bench: Jason Terry, Jonas Valanciunas

We were very pleased with our third round selections today. With the exception of Danny Green, we got everyone we'd targeted.

The scoring load will be assumed by Lillard, West, and LMA. Sef and Tay will provide very good wing defense, with adequate floor spacing as well. Tay can also help with running the offense, as he is a skilled passer who will keep the ball moving.

Terry will be our 6th man, backing up both guard positions, and providing shooting and scoring off the bench.

Jonas will back up LMA at C. With West and LMA, we like the mix and match options for frontcourt setups. I think we could also run an effective small-ball lineup at times with Tayshaun at PF (against opposing stretch 4s, for example).

Our next pick isn't until the 6th round, unfortunately. But, with nearly $25 million of payroll remaining, we think we can round the roster out with good role players.

So talented and well-balanced, but I'm bothered by the dependence of two rooks (Lillard and Val) on what should be a contending team.  I'd look to move Val to one of the youth movement teams and add a strong defensive C to fit in behind West and LMA.

Lillard may be a rookie, but he sure doesn't play like one! Val might have t' go, but he's cheap!

Oh yea, I want some feedback too!

Greivis Vásquez
Klay Thompson
Jeff Green
Zach Randolph
Omer Asik

($33,626,954 remaining)

4.15, 5.15, 7.15, 8.11, 8.15, 9.15, 9.19, 11.15

What type of guys do I want?

I'm thinking a stretch PF and shot-creators for my bench. If I could get a decent jump-shooting big man with my picks, it'd be great but... I'll have to get a good pick ;D I think my starting lineup is pretty good and can score 70ppg.

Jump shooters!

You made some uneven trades that put you in a tough spot, but that's part of the learning process in these types of things.

I think you absolutely need to focus on defense for your bench though. That's just what I'd do.

The past is the past, what must I do in the future?
Yea, my defense is pretty underwhelming especially in the backcourt and wings. Thanks for DA feedback

The trades got me some cap space so that's something I can work with
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Lucky17 on February 20, 2013, 04:38:52 PM

So talented and well-balanced, but I'm bothered by the dependence of two rooks (Lillard and Val) on what should be a contending team.  I'd look to move Val to one of the youth movement teams and add a strong defensive C to fit in behind West and LMA.

TP. This occurred to me when I drafted Jonas; I figured I could easily flip him if I felt unsure about the fit and could improve my team. Will still keep it in mind.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Who on February 20, 2013, 04:40:31 PM
Portland lineup:

PG: Damian Lillard
SG: Thabo Sefolosha
SF: Tayshaun Prince
PF: David West
C:  LaMarcus Aldridge

Bench: Jason Terry, Jonas Valanciunas

We were very pleased with our third round selections today. With the exception of Danny Green, we got everyone we'd targeted.

The scoring load will be assumed by Lillard, West, and LMA. Sef and Tay will provide very good wing defense, with adequate floor spacing as well. Tay can also help with running the offense, as he is a skilled passer who will keep the ball moving.

Terry will be our 6th man, backing up both guard positions, and providing shooting and scoring off the bench.

Jonas will back up LMA at C. With West and LMA, we like the mix and match options for frontcourt setups. I think we could also run an effective small-ball lineup at times with Tayshaun at PF (against opposing stretch 4s, for example).

Our next pick isn't until the 6th round, unfortunately. But, with nearly $25 million of payroll remaining, we think we can round the roster out with good role players.

I really like the Tayshaun Prince + Thabo Sefolosha combination on the wing.

That will be one of the strongest, if not the strongest, defensive wing combination in the league. With a team that is lacking a dominant interior defender, I think this is key and a major boost to your team's defensive strength.

Excellent role players. You know you are doing a good job when you are getting role players who can give you that type of a boost.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Lucky17 on February 20, 2013, 04:51:06 PM

I really like the Tayshaun Prince + Thabo Sefolosha combination on the wing.

That will be one of the strongest, if not the strongest, defensive wing combination in the league. With a team that is lacking a dominant interior defender, I think this is key and a major boost to your team's defensive strength.

Excellent role players. You know you are doing a good job when you are getting role players who can give you that type of a boost.

Thanks, Who. I've been a big fan of Tayshaun's for years, always try to find a way to get him on my teams. Might have preferred Danny Green to Thabo, but still happy with the overall results so far.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Who on February 20, 2013, 04:55:21 PM
SUNS Pick 2:
PG: Goran Dragic(7.5)
SG: Dwyane Wade(17.1)
SF: Gerald Wallace(9.88)
PF:Carlos Boozer(15)
C: Marcin Gortat(7.25)
Cap used: 56.73 Total: 70.3

Thoughts ? I have 4.1 where should I go with it?  obviously I need to target players on cheap deals even though I want to spend

I would consider bringing in a shooter at SF and moving Gerald Wallace into a sixth man role.

Someone like that guy who started at forward alongside LeBron for Miami during the Finals last year.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: celticpride07 on February 20, 2013, 04:56:50 PM
SUNS Pick 2:
PG: Goran Dragic(7.5)
SG: Dwyane Wade(17.1)
SF: Gerald Wallace(9.88)
PF:Carlos Boozer(15)
C: Marcin Gortat(7.25)
Cap used: 56.73 Total: 70.3

Thoughts ? I have 4.1 where should I go with it?  obviously I need to target players on cheap deals even though I want to spend

I would consider bringing in a shooter at SF and moving Gerald Wallace into a sixth man role.

Someone like that guy who started at forward alongside LeBron for Miami during the Finals last year.

That's funny because that's exactly what my plan was
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: BigAlTheFuture on February 20, 2013, 05:24:07 PM
What do you guys think about Rubio? Think he's a good point guard alongside Pierce and Dirk?
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Who on February 20, 2013, 05:30:05 PM
What do you guys think about Rubio? Think he's a good point guard alongside Pierce and Dirk?

Love Rubio -- great fit alongside Pierce and Dirk
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Roy H. on February 20, 2013, 05:32:00 PM
What do you guys think about Rubio? Think he's a good point guard alongside Pierce and Dirk?

Love Rubio

He's great at running an offense, but he's a terrible scorer.  It's almost like playing 4-on-5 on offense.

Rubio works great in an offense with other good scorers.  I think he'd be good on this Dallas team.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Atzar on February 20, 2013, 05:33:32 PM
What do you guys think about Rubio? Think he's a good point guard alongside Pierce and Dirk?

He's decent.  Both Pierce and Dirk are good enough shotmakers that they can play off of Rubio effectively.  You're squandering their ability to create, but in Pierce's case especially that's probably not such a bad thing anymore.  He's having a lot of trouble getting his own offense these days. 

Ideally you'd have a PG with a good jumpshot to take advantage of kickouts, but you can make this work, I think.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: KCattheStripe on February 20, 2013, 06:44:43 PM
Detroit Newsies:

PG: Darren Collison
SG: Courtney Lee
SF: Chandler Parsons
PF: Greg Monroe
C: Andre Drummond

56.7 Mil in Cap space.

Could you just hand us the 2015-2019 titles now, please?
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: CelticConcourse on February 20, 2013, 06:45:53 PM
Detroit Newsies:

PG: Darren Collison

Solid team. I suggest you find some more rebounding.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: wdleehi on February 20, 2013, 07:42:31 PM
Any other opinions on the Warriors right now?



Team will be looking for some defense at the swing position.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: ronaldo943 on February 20, 2013, 07:44:53 PM
Any other opinions on the Warriors right now?



Team will be looking for some defense at the swing position.

Extremely solid team i question the Bledsoe pick but besides that great team
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: wdleehi on February 20, 2013, 07:46:14 PM
Any other opinions on the Warriors right now?



Team will be looking for some defense at the swing position.


Extremely solid team i question the Bledsoe pick but besides that great team


Why?


I thought he was the BPA and worth much more then a position of need at that point. 
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: KCattheStripe on February 20, 2013, 07:46:50 PM
not sure how much I love Landry next to Gasol. Both are obviously great players, but part of Gasol's success has been that both he and ZBo can play the high post, where as I'm not sure Landry has that skill, and I think limiting Gasol's touches down-low could be harmful.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: KCattheStripe on February 20, 2013, 07:48:33 PM
Any other opinions on the Warriors right now?



Team will be looking for some defense at the swing position.


Extremely solid team i question the Bledsoe pick but besides that great team


Why?


I thought he was the BPA and worth much more then a position of need at that point.

I think the defensive options at SG have dropped considerably, but it's not the end of the world.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: KCattheStripe on February 20, 2013, 07:50:41 PM
Never mind, there are a number of guys on my list at SF, that would be fine next to Gallo.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: wdleehi on February 20, 2013, 07:51:54 PM
Never mind, there are a number of guys on my list at SF, that would be fine next to Gallo.


Agreed.


And since I don't need them to be an offensive stud, I have plenty of options. 
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: KCattheStripe on February 20, 2013, 07:52:54 PM
Never mind, there are a number of guys on my list at SF, that would be fine next to Gallo.


Agreed.


And since I don't need them to be an offensive stud, I have plenty of options.


Truth, i just didn't see that kinda guy left on my list at SG.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: KCattheStripe on February 20, 2013, 08:22:44 PM
Detroit Newsies:

PG: Darren Collison
SG: Courtney Lee
SF: Chandler Parsons
PF: Greg Monroe
C: Andre Drummond

56.7 Mil in Cap space.

Could you just hand us the 2015-2019 titles now, please?

I'll take your collective silence as an acknowledgement that someone is in fact bringing said trophies out and making our banners.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: KGs Knee on February 20, 2013, 08:59:12 PM
Ok guys, here's the revised Brooklyn Nets...

 C: Brook Lopez ($13.67m)
PF: Carlos Boozer ($15.00m)
SF: TBD
SG: Kobe Bryant ($27.85m)
PG: George Hill ($8.00m)

Salary cap: $83.11m
Remaning salary $18.59



My thoughts-  Points will not be a problem with this group.  I've got inside scoring, three point shooting (Hill), and oh yeah, Kobe.  Perimeter defense is still great with Kobe and Hill (probably top 3 defensive PG).  Interior defense is still suspect, but Boozer is underrated in my eyes (DRtg of 100) and an exceptional rebounder.  Lopez is blocking 2.2 shots per game by the way.

Basically, if you ain't scoring 100+ points, you're going to have a hard time beating this core.


Open to others thought's as well.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: RebusRankin on February 20, 2013, 09:01:13 PM
Detroit Newsies:

PG: Darren Collison
SG: Courtney Lee
SF: Chandler Parsons
PF: Greg Monroe
C: Andre Drummond

56.7 Mil in Cap space.

Could you just hand us the 2015-2019 titles now, please?

I'll take your collective silence as an acknowledgement that someone is in fact bringing said trophies out and making our banners.

I like the big man combo. Interested to see the bench. Not making you banners yet.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: ronaldo943 on February 20, 2013, 09:02:07 PM
Ok guys, here's the revised Brooklyn Nets...

 C: Brook Lopez ($13.67m)
PF: Carlos Boozer ($15.00m)
SF: TBD
SG: Kobe Bryant ($27.85m)
PG: George Hill ($8.00m)

Salary cap: $83.11m
Remaning salary $18.59



My thoughts-  Points will not be a problem with this group.  I've got inside scoring, three point shooting (Hill), and oh yeah, Kobe.  Perimeter defense is still great with Kobe and Hill (probably top 3 defensive PG).  Interior defense is still suspect, but Boozer is underrated in my eyes (DRtg of 100) and an exceptional rebounder.  Lopez is blocking 2.2 shots per game by the way.

Basically, if you ain't scoring 100+ points, you're going to have a hard time beating this core.


Open to others thought's as well.

Spot on except for the fact that Hill is not a great 3 point shooter if anything an average one
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: KGs Knee on February 20, 2013, 09:24:36 PM
Ok guys, here's the revised Brooklyn Nets...

 C: Brook Lopez ($13.67m)
PF: Carlos Boozer ($15.00m)
SF: TBD
SG: Kobe Bryant ($27.85m)
PG: George Hill ($8.00m)

Salary cap: $83.11m
Remaning salary $18.59



My thoughts-  Points will not be a problem with this group.  I've got inside scoring, three point shooting (Hill), and oh yeah, Kobe.  Perimeter defense is still great with Kobe and Hill (probably top 3 defensive PG).  Interior defense is still suspect, but Boozer is underrated in my eyes (DRtg of 100) and an exceptional rebounder.  Lopez is blocking 2.2 shots per game by the way.

Basically, if you ain't scoring 100+ points, you're going to have a hard time beating this core.


Open to others thought's as well.

Spot on except for the fact that Hill is not a great 3 point shooter if anything an average one

Hill is 37% for his career, so while not "elite" he's at the very least, slightly above average. Two seasons ago he was at 40% (SAS).  Playing next to Kobe (and with excellent inside scoring) ought to get him numerous wide open shots.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Atzar on February 21, 2013, 11:42:12 AM
Alright, I have my top 7 filled out now.  I'd love some opinions/suggestions.

PG:  Tony Parker
SG:  Danny Green / Monta Ellis
SF:  Caron Butler
PF:  Tristan Thompson / Earl Clark
C:   Pau Gasol
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: wdleehi on February 21, 2013, 11:43:11 AM
Warriors  (36.64 million left to spend)

PG  Curry
SG Marco Belinelli
SF Gallinari
PF Landry
C  M. Gasol


Bench
G  Bledsoe
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: AB_Celtic on February 21, 2013, 11:44:58 AM

Warriors  (38.5 million left to spend)

PG  Curry
SG Marco Belinelli
SF Gallinari
PF Landry
C  M. Gasol


Bench
G  Bledsoe

Lot's of "L"s on your team :P

A very solid squad, though. I don't know much about Bledsoe defensively, but I know Curry, Belinelli, and Gallinari aren't very good in that department. You might look to add more defense at the 1-3.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: wdleehi on February 21, 2013, 11:46:53 AM

Warriors  (38.5 million left to spend)

PG  Curry
SG Marco Belinelli
SF Gallinari
PF Landry
C  M. Gasol


Bench
G  Bledsoe

Lot's of "L"s on your team :P

A very solid squad, though. I don't know much about Bledsoe defensively, but I know Curry, Belinelli, and Gallinari aren't very good in that department. You might look to add more defense at the 1-3.


Belinelli has been solid on defense with Chicago. 


And we keep hearing how good defensively Bledsoe is in the KG trade ideas/rumors.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Who on February 21, 2013, 11:48:16 AM

Warriors  (38.5 million left to spend)

PG  Curry
SG Marco Belinelli
SF Gallinari
PF Landry
C  M. Gasol


Bench
G  Bledsoe

Lot's of "L"s on your team :P

A very solid squad, though. I don't know much about Bledsoe defensively, but I know Curry, Belinelli, and Gallinari aren't very good in that department. You might look to add more defense at the 1-3.


Belinelli has been solid on defense with Chicago. 


And we keep hearing how good defensively Bledsoe is in the KG trade ideas/rumors.

Are you planning on starting Belinelli?

Or is he just a stand in until you acquire a defensive minded SG later on?
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Atzar on February 21, 2013, 11:49:36 AM

Warriors  (38.5 million left to spend)

PG  Curry
SG Marco Belinelli
SF Gallinari
PF Landry
C  M. Gasol


Bench
G  Bledsoe

I'd actually consider starting Bledsoe and bringing Belinelli off the bench.  You could really use a great defender in that starting lineup, since Gasol is the only above average defender on your team.

You won't have problems scoring, though.  You have a solid scorer at every position on the court.

I'd look for some more size next. 
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: wdleehi on February 21, 2013, 11:50:36 AM

Warriors  (38.5 million left to spend)

PG  Curry
SG Marco Belinelli
SF Gallinari
PF Landry
C  M. Gasol


Bench
G  Bledsoe

Lot's of "L"s on your team :P

A very solid squad, though. I don't know much about Bledsoe defensively, but I know Curry, Belinelli, and Gallinari aren't very good in that department. You might look to add more defense at the 1-3.


Belinelli has been solid on defense with Chicago. 


And we keep hearing how good defensively Bledsoe is in the KG trade ideas/rumors.

Are you planning on starting Belinelli?

Or is he just a stand in until you acquire a defensive minded SG later on?


He is going to start. 
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: snively on February 21, 2013, 11:52:59 AM
Alright, I have my top 7 filled out now.  I'd love some opinions/suggestions.

PG:  Tony Parker
SG:  Danny Green / Monta Ellis
SF:  Caron Butler
PF:  Tristan Thompson / Earl Clark
C:   Pau Gasol

TP & Gasol is a great foundation, but I'm unimpressed with your forward rotation.  Butler's a mediocre player, Thompson is too raw to be such a key cog on a veteran contending team and Clark, while a nice surprise this year, doesn't make up for the weakness of the two players ahead of him.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on February 21, 2013, 11:55:26 AM
Chicago Bulls: After 4

PG - Andre Iguodala  / Chauncey Billups
SG - Joe Johnson
SF - Luol Deng
PF - Elton Brand
CD - Joakim Noah

Now that a floor general and a great leader (and shooter) has been added, this tough defensive team will have a much better flow on offense.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Atzar on February 21, 2013, 11:56:08 AM
Alright, I have my top 7 filled out now.  I'd love some opinions/suggestions.

PG:  Tony Parker
SG:  Danny Green / Monta Ellis
SF:  Caron Butler
PF:  Tristan Thompson / Earl Clark
C:   Pau Gasol

TP & Gasol is a great foundation, but I'm unimpressed with your forward rotation.  Butler's a mediocre player, Thompson is too raw to be such a key cog on a veteran contending team and Clark, while a nice surprise this year, doesn't make up for the weakness of the two players ahead of him.

Butler's in there for 3's and defense, both of which he still does well.  Thompson is there for rebounding, energy and defense.  Again, all of which he does well.  These guys should be more than capable of performing the roles I have for them.

Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Atzar on February 21, 2013, 12:07:06 PM
Chicago Bulls: After 4

PG - Andre Iguodala  / Chauncey Billups
SG - Joe Johnson
SF - Luol Deng
PF - Elton Brand
CD - Joakim Noah

Now that a floor general and a great leader (and shooter) has been added, this tough defensive team will have a much better flow on offense.

I can't say I'm crazy about the idea of having Joe Johnson as my go-to guy at this point.  I also see Brand as more of a bench player, unless you can get a very solid PF off the bench to limit his minutes.  The Iggy at PG experiment is a cool move.  He can defend the position and is a good passer.  Not sure how he'd handle ball pressure, but between him and Johnson you should be able to figure it out.  Iggy may have trouble driving against PG's, though.  You're limiting his quickness advantage in favor of a size advantage, and I'm not sure how well he takes advantage of that.

Good defensive team that may have trouble scoring.  Billups' effect on an offense has become overrated at this point - he's a good floor general, but he's not some mystical soothsayer who cures all offensive ills.  I foresee a lot of Iso Joe. 

Again, target a good big to take some pressure off of Brand. 
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: snively on February 21, 2013, 12:07:53 PM
Alright, I have my top 7 filled out now.  I'd love some opinions/suggestions.

PG:  Tony Parker
SG:  Danny Green / Monta Ellis
SF:  Caron Butler
PF:  Tristan Thompson / Earl Clark
C:   Pau Gasol

TP & Gasol is a great foundation, but I'm unimpressed with your forward rotation.  Butler's a mediocre player, Thompson is too raw to be such a key cog on a veteran contending team and Clark, while a nice surprise this year, doesn't make up for the weakness of the two players ahead of him.


Butler's in there for 3's and defense, both of which he still does well.  Thompson is there for rebounding, energy and defense.  Again, all of which he does well.  These guys should be more than capable of performing the roles I have for them.

See I would compare this to the 2010/2011 Spurs team that had Richard Jefferson and Dejuan Blair starting (only with the disadvantage of having Ellis in place of Manu in the 6th man role). 
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: snively on February 21, 2013, 12:09:12 PM
Chicago Bulls: After 4

PG - Andre Iguodala  / Chauncey Billups
SG - Joe Johnson
SF - Luol Deng
PF - Elton Brand
CD - Joakim Noah

Now that a floor general and a great leader (and shooter) has been added, this tough defensive team will have a much better flow on offense.

I haven't seen Billups plays after his achilles, but if he's in good form he fills a massive hole for this team.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on February 21, 2013, 12:12:51 PM
Chicago Bulls: After 4

PG - Andre Iguodala  / Chauncey Billups
SG - Joe Johnson
SF - Luol Deng
PF - Elton Brand
CD - Joakim Noah

Now that a floor general and a great leader (and shooter) has been added, this tough defensive team will have a much better flow on offense.

I can't say I'm crazy about the idea of having Joe Johnson as my go-to guy at this point.  I also see Brand as more of a bench player, unless you can get a very solid PF off the bench to limit his minutes.  The Iggy at PG experiment is a cool move.  He can defend the position and is a good passer.  Not sure how he'd handle ball pressure, but between him and Johnson you should be able to figure it out.  Iggy may have trouble driving against PG's, though.  You're limiting his quickness advantage in favor of a size advantage, and I'm not sure how well he takes advantage of that.

Good defensive team that may have trouble scoring.  Billups' effect on an offense has become overrated at this point - he's a good floor general, but he's not some mystical soothsayer who cures all offensive ills.  I foresee a lot of Iso Joe. 

Again, target a good big to take some pressure off of Brand.

I agree with everything but the Billups and the Johnson go to idea.

Billups can calm down a storm, and with players who are willing passers, the offensive execution with Billups' leadership with be smooth even at crunch time. And Joe can still take over games, as evident two days ago. Sure he'll have bad nights, but he can still easily drop 20 on anyone.

I need some help for BRand though. I really like his defense, but he won't be able to play 30+ minutes anymore, youre right.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Who on February 21, 2013, 12:14:07 PM
Chicago Bulls: After 4

PG - Andre Iguodala  / Chauncey Billups
SG - Joe Johnson
SF - Luol Deng
PF - Elton Brand
CD - Joakim Noah

Now that a floor general and a great leader (and shooter) has been added, this tough defensive team will have a much better flow on offense.

I am not sure about Chauncey.

I haven't gotten to see him play yet this season. Has anyone seen any of his games? How does he look defensively after achilles injury?

That was a career-threatening injury. I would be very worried about his defense after an injury like that. I expect him to be a very poor on defense. Completely unable to stay in front of opposing PGs.

I would also be very worried about his ability to beat his defender off the dribble and get into the paint. I think his jump-shooting and decision making should still be at a high level and fit in well with your team.

Has anyone seen Chauncey play? Can comment on how he looks after that torn achilles?
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Lucky17 on February 21, 2013, 12:18:05 PM
Alright, I have my top 7 filled out now.  I'd love some opinions/suggestions.

PG:  Tony Parker
SG:  Danny Green / Monta Ellis
SF:  Caron Butler
PF:  Tristan Thompson / Earl Clark
C:   Pau Gasol

I like the chemistry and combined skill-set in the starting backcourt. Ellis is an expensive 6th man, but I know you're looking to move him, so I won't belabor the point.

I like the frontcourt rotation a lot too. Clark and Thompson as energetic glass cleaners with the offensively talented Gasol.

Butler I am not as crazy about. Not sure what kind of talent is still on the board at SF, though: he may be the most accomplished scorer still there. Still, I'd like to see more quickness/defense there. You could also select a defensive minded SG and shift Green to SF.

Overall, I like it.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on February 21, 2013, 12:18:49 PM
Chicago Bulls: After 4

PG - Andre Iguodala  / Chauncey Billups
SG - Joe Johnson
SF - Luol Deng
PF - Elton Brand
CD - Joakim Noah

Now that a floor general and a great leader (and shooter) has been added, this tough defensive team will have a much better flow on offense.

I am not sure about Chauncey.

I haven't gotten to see him play yet this season. Has anyone seen any of his games? How does he look defensively after achilles injury?

That was a career-threatening injury. I would be very worried about his defense after an injury like that. I expect him to be a very poor on defense. Completely unable to stay in front of opposing PGs.

I would also be very worried about his ability to beat his defender off the dribble and get into the paint. I think his jump-shooting and decision making should still be at a high level and fit in well with your team.

Has anyone seen Chauncey play? Can comment on how he looks after that torn achilles?

Dropped 21 on 16 minutes last week against the Lakers. 4 steals too. I feel pretty good about him.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Who on February 21, 2013, 12:20:42 PM
Alright, I have my top 7 filled out now.  I'd love some opinions/suggestions.

PG:  Tony Parker
SG:  Danny Green / Monta Ellis
SF:  Caron Butler
PF:  Tristan Thompson / Earl Clark
C:   Pau Gasol

TP & Gasol is a great foundation, but I'm unimpressed with your forward rotation.  Butler's a mediocre player, Thompson is too raw to be such a key cog on a veteran contending team and Clark, while a nice surprise this year, doesn't make up for the weakness of the two players ahead of him.

I am in a pretty similar place as snively.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Lucky17 on February 21, 2013, 12:25:22 PM
Warriors  (36.64 million left to spend)

PG  Curry
SG Marco Belinelli
SF Gallinari
PF Landry
C  M. Gasol

Bench
G  Bledsoe

Looks like a talented offensive unit. I'd like to see one starter replaced with more defense, though.

I think I prefer the thought of both Belinelli and Landry as 6th-7th man types to anchor the scoring of the bench unit along with Bledsoe, especially considering that both those guys would be the last options in the starting offense.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Atzar on February 21, 2013, 12:27:17 PM
Alright, I have my top 7 filled out now.  I'd love some opinions/suggestions.

PG:  Tony Parker
SG:  Danny Green / Monta Ellis
SF:  Caron Butler
PF:  Tristan Thompson / Earl Clark
C:   Pau Gasol

I like the chemistry and combined skill-set in the starting backcourt. Ellis is an expensive 6th man, but I know you're looking to move him, so I won't belabor the point.

I like the frontcourt rotation a lot too. Clark and Thompson as energetic glass cleaners with the offensively talented Gasol.

Butler I am not as crazy about. Not sure what kind of talent is still on the board at SF, though: he may be the most accomplished scorer still there. Still, I'd like to see more quickness/defense there. You could also select a defensive minded SG and shift Green to SF.

Overall, I like it.

I was under the impression that Butler was solid defensively.  Was I wrong about that?
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Lucky17 on February 21, 2013, 12:28:26 PM
Chicago Bulls: After 4

PG - Andre Iguodala  / Chauncey Billups
SG - Joe Johnson
SF - Luol Deng
PF - Elton Brand
CD - Joakim Noah

Now that a floor general and a great leader (and shooter) has been added, this tough defensive team will have a much better flow on offense.

Yeah, if healthy, Chauncey is a great PG option for the group I think. And you now have a legit combination of guards and wings to play Deng with Noah in a small-ball outfit.

Terrific defense and length. I suspect you'll target a long and mobile 4 to back up Brand next? That would really round out your 7-man rotation.

Nice work so far.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Lucky17 on February 21, 2013, 12:45:16 PM
Alright, I have my top 7 filled out now.  I'd love some opinions/suggestions.

PG:  Tony Parker
SG:  Danny Green / Monta Ellis
SF:  Caron Butler
PF:  Tristan Thompson / Earl Clark
C:   Pau Gasol

I like the chemistry and combined skill-set in the starting backcourt. Ellis is an expensive 6th man, but I know you're looking to move him, so I won't belabor the point.

I like the frontcourt rotation a lot too. Clark and Thompson as energetic glass cleaners with the offensively talented Gasol.

Butler I am not as crazy about. Not sure what kind of talent is still on the board at SF, though: he may be the most accomplished scorer still there. Still, I'd like to see more quickness/defense there. You could also select a defensive minded SG and shift Green to SF.

Overall, I like it.

I was under the impression that Butler was solid defensively.  Was I wrong about that?

I'd need to see some metrics, but I don't think he's the defender he once was. A step slow.

In terms of stats, his rebounding and steals numbers seem to be down considerably from his prime (4-5 years ago).
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Rondo2287 on February 21, 2013, 01:09:27 PM
C: Al Horford/ Robin Lopez
PF: Kevin Love/ (Al Horford)
SF: Danny Granger
SG:
PG: Jose Calderon

Lovin it
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Who on February 21, 2013, 01:38:00 PM
G: Jarrett Jack
G: Eric Gordon
F: Mbah a Moute
F: Anthony Davis
C: Amare Stoudemire

Sixth Man - Enes Kanter
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Lucky17 on February 21, 2013, 01:54:24 PM
C: Al Horford/ Robin Lopez
PF: Kevin Love/ (Al Horford)
SF: Danny Granger
SG:
PG: Jose Calderon

Lovin it

In a vacuum, the talent in the starting lineup is undeniable. Two major concerns:

1. Payroll: you've yet to round out a 7-man rotation, and you've got less than $17 million left to spend.

2. Health: related to issue #1, you're going to need to find quality backups for your stars. Love and Granger are coming back from major injuries, and Horford had a serious injury last year. Even Lopez and Calderon have missed games in the past several seasons due to nagging injuries.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: KGs Knee on February 21, 2013, 02:05:22 PM
Well, I finally was able to round out my starting lineup.

 C: Brook Lopez
PF: Carlos Boozer//Andray Blatche
SF: Matt Barnes
SG: Kobe Bryant
PG: George Hill

Remaining salary: $16.81m


Thoughts?
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: AB_Celtic on February 21, 2013, 02:08:55 PM
After 4:

PG: Jennings
SG: Matthews / (Webster)
SF: Ariza / Webster
PF: Lee
 C: Pekovic

What should I look for next? Does anyone not fit?
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: BleedGreen1989 on February 21, 2013, 02:10:34 PM
G: Jarrett Jack
G: Eric Gordon
F: Mbah a Moute
F: Anthony Davis
C: Amare Stoudemire

Sixth Man - Enes Kanter

like the team but still don't understand taking Amare in the first
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Lucky17 on February 21, 2013, 02:13:03 PM
Well, I finally was able to round out my starting lineup.

 C: Brook Lopez
PF: Carlos Boozer//Andray Blatche
SF: Matt Barnes
SG: Kobe Bryant
PG: George Hill

Remaining salary: $16.81m


Thoughts?

Well, those two bargain contracts definitely helped. Good picks there, although I still might have preferred a more defensive-minded big than Blatche. You got picks to come though, and can probably acquire additional inexpensive role players to round things out.

So much salary tied up in Boozer. Still not sure about the fit. There's another PG on the board who might be a better, cheaper fit for Kobe, if you're feeling the pinch.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Who on February 21, 2013, 02:30:09 PM
G: Jarrett Jack
G: Eric Gordon
F: Mbah a Moute
F: Anthony Davis
C: Amare Stoudemire

Sixth Man - Enes Kanter

like the team but still don't understand taking Amare in the first

Amare is quietly playing very well for New York off the bench. He has a much improved post game and is scoring very effectively. If his minutes were not limited due to chemistry concerns there, he would be getting a lot more attention for his strong play for the Knicks.

I wanted a 2nd high quality scorer to put alongside Eric Gordon and I rated Amare as the best option available. After D-Wade, I think Amare was the next best (non-injured) scorer in the first round. I also liked that he was a big man who was strong in the pick and roll and could develop a nice two man game with E.Gordon too.

I  didn't think Amare would last until my next pick. I thought he made too much sense for too many towards the bottom the of the first round and didn't like the odds of him making it past all those teams. I don't know whether I was right or wrong about that but that is why I took him in the first.

Side note: I loved the idea of LeBron, Amare and Bosh together. I thought that frontcourt would have been unguardable. If I didn't select Amare, I was hoping Miami would pick Amare. That would've been a really fun team.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Who on February 21, 2013, 02:33:37 PM
After 4:

PG: Jennings
SG: Matthews / (Webster)
SF: Ariza / Webster
PF: Lee
 C: Pekovic

What should I look for next? Does anyone not fit?

I would look for a defensive big man to play alongside Nikola Pekovic and David Lee. Probably a power forward with Lee filling in as backup center when Pekovic goes to the bench. Somebody who works alongside both players. Someone who has solid quickness and mobility.

After that, I would target a strong backup PG to play behind Brandon Jennings. Your wings aren't the strongest shot-creators and work best when playing off of someone else so I think a good backup PG is important.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: BleedGreen1989 on February 21, 2013, 02:36:59 PM
how about my collection of 22 year olds?

A lot of times I took the BPA but if this was a real team I would think this team would be in a good position going forward with all the young assets and cheap contracts and ample cap space.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Lucky17 on February 21, 2013, 02:39:51 PM
G: Jarrett Jack
G: Eric Gordon
F: Mbah a Moute
F: Anthony Davis
C: Amare Stoudemire

Sixth Man - Enes Kanter

Love the Jack-Gordon pairing. And Davis/Kanter could grow into an exciting frontcourt, given time.

Haven't seen much of Mbah a Moute, but I know he's missed time due to a nagging knee/leg injury of some sort. I don't know at this point whether he is a power 3, or a small 4. A lighter, faster wing of similar size might be good for the later rounds, someone who can defend opposing 2s/3s.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Who on February 21, 2013, 02:42:03 PM
Quote
Pick2 Draft-Minnesota T'Wolves (27/70mill)
PG: Jeff Teague/Kemba Walker
SG: Oj Mayo/Dion Waiters
SF: Nic Batum
PF: Thomas Robinson/John Henson
C:  Nikola Vucevic
7.22, 8.22, 9.22, 10.22

Why have you spent so little money?
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: BleedGreen1989 on February 21, 2013, 02:44:58 PM
Quote
Pick2 Draft-Minnesota T'Wolves (27/70mill)
PG: Jeff Teague/Kemba Walker
SG: Oj Mayo/Dion Waiters
SF: Nic Batum
PF: Thomas Robinson/John Henson
C:  Nikola Vucevic
7.22, 8.22, 9.22, 10.22

Why have you spent so little money?

I came into it trying to rebuild so I was targeting cheap young talent. I can fill up to the cap floor towards the end if needed or could absorb a large salary later on
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Lucky17 on February 21, 2013, 02:47:49 PM
After 4:

PG: Jennings
SG: Matthews / (Webster)
SF: Ariza / Webster
PF: Lee
 C: Pekovic

What should I look for next? Does anyone not fit?

I like the fits here. My comments on the Ariza selection stand (like it).

I think the core is quite good. Rounding out the bench with some bigs (defense, and a stretch 4, perhaps) and a pure point guard would be my suggestions.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Who on February 21, 2013, 02:56:41 PM
G: Jarrett Jack
G: Eric Gordon
F: Mbah a Moute
F: Anthony Davis
C: Amare Stoudemire

Sixth Man - Enes Kanter

Love the Jack-Gordon pairing. And Davis/Kanter could grow into an exciting frontcourt, given time.

Haven't seen much of Mbah a Moute, but I know he's missed time due to a nagging knee/leg injury of some sort. I don't know at this point whether he is a power 3, or a small 4. A lighter, faster wing of similar size might be good for the later rounds, someone who can defend opposing 2s/3s.

Mbah a Moute defends 1 through 4. They put him on Chris Paul and other top PGs as well as quick footed SGs like D-Wade to small forwards like Melo and LeBron to power forwards like Pau Gasol and Dirk Nowitzki. He can handle all those defensive matchups. Milwaukee will put him on absolutely anyone. He has that defensive range.

http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post/_/id/29207/luc-richard-mbah-a-moutes-scouting-report
http://www.jsonline.com/sports/bucks/41003037.html

I am hoping to get a skilled SF with shooting ability to play behind Mbah a Moute. Since, you know, he can't shoot.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Lucky17 on February 21, 2013, 04:22:40 PM

Mbah a Moute defends 1 through 4. They put him on Chris Paul and other top PGs as well as quick footed SGs like D-Wade to small forwards like Melo and LeBron to power forwards like Pau Gasol and Dirk Nowitzki. He can handle all those defensive matchups. Milwaukee will put him on absolutely anyone. He has that defensive range.

http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post/_/id/29207/luc-richard-mbah-a-moutes-scouting-report
http://www.jsonline.com/sports/bucks/41003037.html

I am hoping to get a skilled SF with shooting ability to play behind Mbah a Moute. Since, you know, he can't shoot.

Those links are a bit old, before his injury. Patella tendonitis.

http://www.jsonline.com/sports/bucks/bucks-mbah-a-moute-works-on-rehab-337jlp1-178754371.html

Quote
Mbah a Moute struggled with right knee pain throughout last season and missed 19 games due to tendinitis. And when he did play, his effectiveness and lateral movement were limited due to the pain.

He missed the start of this season on continued rehab, but seems to be settling in, according to his game logs. I haven't watched much Bucks basketball this season, so I don't know if his lateral movement has come back.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Who on February 21, 2013, 04:26:10 PM

Mbah a Moute defends 1 through 4. They put him on Chris Paul and other top PGs as well as quick footed SGs like D-Wade to small forwards like Melo and LeBron to power forwards like Pau Gasol and Dirk Nowitzki. He can handle all those defensive matchups. Milwaukee will put him on absolutely anyone. He has that defensive range.

http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post/_/id/29207/luc-richard-mbah-a-moutes-scouting-report
http://www.jsonline.com/sports/bucks/41003037.html

I am hoping to get a skilled SF with shooting ability to play behind Mbah a Moute. Since, you know, he can't shoot.

Those links are a bit old, before his injury. Patella tendonitis.

http://www.jsonline.com/sports/bucks/bucks-mbah-a-moute-works-on-rehab-337jlp1-178754371.html

Quote
Mbah a Moute struggled with right knee pain throughout last season and missed 19 games due to tendinitis. And when he did play, his effectiveness and lateral movement were limited due to the pain.

He missed the start of this season on continued rehab, but seems to be settling in, according to his game logs. I haven't watched much Bucks basketball this season, so I don't know if his lateral movement has come back.

Hmm ... okay. I'll have to watch him more closely next time I watch the Bucks and see how he is doing then.

I want to watch some more Bucks games anyway to see how Larry Sanders is coming along. I am still not quite sure what to make of him.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: ronaldo943 on February 21, 2013, 04:29:25 PM
Ii have the best per minute rebounding team ;D

Hickson
Reggie Evans
Marion
McGee
Aminu
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: CelticConcourse on February 21, 2013, 04:32:00 PM
I think you meant to say LARRY SANDERS!, correct?
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: CelticConcourse on February 21, 2013, 05:21:07 PM
Greivis Vásquez | Andre Miller
Klay Thompson
Jeff Green
Zach Randolph
Omer Asik

Thoughts?
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: KGs Knee on February 21, 2013, 05:26:37 PM
Ii have the best per minute rebounding team ;D

Hickson
Reggie Evans
Marion
McGee
Aminu

Recanted

Did not realize you have Westbrook and Crawford to go along with these players.  Hard to tell what players you exactly have, you should update your sig.

Not too shabby after all.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: sofutomygaha on February 21, 2013, 05:40:38 PM
Ii have the best per minute rebounding team ;D

Hickson
Reggie Evans
Marion
McGee
Aminu

Who else is looking forward to watching JaVale running the point?! =)
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: airbelinelli on February 21, 2013, 07:03:38 PM
Have my first Vet added to the mix, what should I target next to go with this young team?
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: CelticConcourse on February 21, 2013, 07:05:03 PM
Have my first Vet added to the mix, what should I target next to go with this young team?

A player like the healthy guy Boston just traded, locker-room leader to stabilize the team. Role-model.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Lucky17 on February 21, 2013, 07:14:19 PM
Have my first Vet added to the mix, what should I target next to go with this young team?

Another shooter, either a wing or stretch four.

A legit PF with size and strength as a change of pace from Thad Young might also be good.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: StartOrien on February 21, 2013, 07:15:31 PM
If anyone's looking to shed a little salary, I've got a lot of players signed to pretty reasonable deals. Duncan and KG are untouchable though.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: slamtheking on February 21, 2013, 07:26:20 PM
Ok, time to take a whack at the new Heat.  have at it people.

Starters
Lebron James, Chris Bosh, Emeka Okafor, Brandon Knight,  Mo Williams

Bench
Lou Williams (injured but will be back for next year)
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: slamtheking on February 21, 2013, 07:27:52 PM
Greivis Vásquez | Andre Miller
Klay Thompson
Jeff Green
Zach Randolph
Omer Asik

Thoughts?
not bad but I don't see a go-to guy here.  Green and Zach are as close as you get but I think you need someone who can consistantly get a bucket without having to be set up
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: CelticsFan9 on February 21, 2013, 07:51:01 PM
Willing to trade 5.20 or 5.26 for two later picks.  PM me.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: BigAlTheFuture on February 21, 2013, 07:53:53 PM
Greivis Vásquez | Andre Miller
Klay Thompson
Jeff Green
Zach Randolph
Omer Asik

Thoughts?
not bad but I don't see a go-to guy here.  Green and Zach are as close as you get but I think you need someone who can consistantly get a bucket without having to be set up

Someone like Derozan.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: CelticConcourse on February 21, 2013, 07:55:27 PM
Greivis Vásquez | Andre Miller
Klay Thompson
Jeff Green
Zach Randolph
Omer Asik

Thoughts?
not bad but I don't see a go-to guy here.  Green and Zach are as close as you get but I think you need someone who can consistantly get a bucket without having to be set up

Not Andre Miller even? ;D
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: CelticConcourse on February 21, 2013, 09:32:22 PM
Memphis Grizzlies
Greivis Vásquez | Klay Thompson | Jeff Green | Zach Randolph | Omer Asik
Andre Miller | Caron Butler
($20,626,954 remaining)
7.15, 8.11, 8.15, 9.15, 9.19, 11.15


What am I looking for now? Still that stretch-4? Salary finally starting to become an issue (albeit a minor one)
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Atzar on February 21, 2013, 10:00:52 PM
Alright, so I dumped Caron Butler.  Team now looks like this:

Tony Parker
Danny Green / Monta Ellis
--
Tristan Thompson / Earl Clark
Pau Gasol


The question is simple:  what do I do at the SF position? 
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: CelticConcourse on February 21, 2013, 10:13:02 PM
Alright, so I dumped Caron Butler.  Team now looks like this:

Tony Parker
Danny Green / Monta Ellis
--
Tristan Thompson / Earl Clark
Pau Gasol


The question is simple:  what do I do at the SF position?

I think Caron Butler would fit really well. He's probably worth 5.15 plus a little more. Jk

I think you want one with a serviceable jump shot at the least. Can't Earl play SF?
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Atzar on February 21, 2013, 10:18:59 PM
Alright, so I dumped Caron Butler.  Team now looks like this:

Tony Parker
Danny Green / Monta Ellis
--
Tristan Thompson / Earl Clark
Pau Gasol


The question is simple:  what do I do at the SF position?

I think Caron Butler would fit really well. He's probably worth 5.15 plus a little more. Jk

I think you want one with a serviceable jump shot at the least. Can't Earl play SF?

Eh... against certain matchups he can, but I like him a lot more as a backup PF and occasionally even a floor-stretching center. 
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: fairweatherfan on February 22, 2013, 09:14:48 AM
Here's the current Knicks squad:

Mike Conley Jr/(Foye)
Randy Foye/Jimmy Butler
Carmelo/(Butler)
Millsap/Ed Davis/(Carmelo)
Chandler/Davis

And we still have over $25 mill in cap space to boot.  Will probably take a backup PG and C with my next picks. 
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: wdleehi on February 22, 2013, 11:29:52 AM

Warriors  (33.64 million left to spend)

PG  Curry
SG Marco Belinelli
SF Gallinari
PF Lavoy Allen
C  M. Gasol


Bench
G  Bledsoe
PF Landry
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Atzar on February 22, 2013, 11:31:16 AM
Tony Parker
Danny Green
Joe Johnson / Carlos Delfino
Tristan Thompson / Earl Clark
Pau Gasol


Thoughts?  I don't have much money left, but there are still a few bargains out there. 
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Who on February 22, 2013, 11:33:09 AM
Tony Parker
Danny Green
Joe Johnson / Carlos Delfino
Tristan Thompson / Earl Clark
Pau Gasol


Thoughts?  I don't have much money left, but there are still a few bargains out there.

I really like the Joe Johnson and Carlos Delfino additions.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: fairweatherfan on February 22, 2013, 11:33:40 AM

Warriors  (33.64 million left to spend)

PG  Curry
SG Marco Belinelli
SF Gallinari
PF Lavoy Allen
C  M. Gasol


Bench
G  Bledsoe
PF Landry

Well, I'd guess you're leading the league in Ls (not losses, player names).

This is probably the deadliest 3-pt shooting team in the league, but wing defense is a huge question mark, and Lavoy's value as a starter is still in question.  Looks like an exciting lower playoff seed and 1st round exit to me.  So kinda like the real Warriors.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Atzar on February 22, 2013, 11:33:53 AM

Warriors  (33.64 million left to spend)

PG  Curry
SG Marco Belinelli
SF Gallinari
PF Lavoy Allen
C  M. Gasol


Bench
G  Bledsoe
PF Landry

I'm not crazy about your defense - although Lavoy Allen will help and was an excellent pick this late.  But this team will be able to score on anybody.  I like it overall.

A defensive wing might be a good move for your next pick.  And maybe some glue, to keep Curry's ankles from falling apart.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: KCattheStripe on February 22, 2013, 11:34:25 AM

Warriors  (33.64 million left to spend)

PG  Curry
SG Marco Belinelli
SF Gallinari
PF Lavoy Allen
C  M. Gasol


Bench
G  Bledsoe
PF Landry

Would start Landry, and don't love Bellinelli, but it's a solid team.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Atzar on February 22, 2013, 11:40:23 AM
Here's the current Knicks squad:

Mike Conley Jr/(Foye)
Randy Foye/Jimmy Butler
Carmelo/(Butler)
Millsap/Ed Davis/(Carmelo)
Chandler/Davis

And we still have over $25 mill in cap space to boot.  Will probably take a backup PG and C with my next picks.

I'd go for some guys that are a little more proven off the bench.  Butler and Davis are nice pieces for the future, but neither is exactly a reliable player at this point. 

I do like the makeup of the team overall.  Conley's a nice, underrated PG who will play good D at the top of your defense, and Chandler is maybe the best defensive anchor in the league.  Anthony is a heck of a scorer.

A scorer off the bench would help you.  Ideally a guard who wouldn't mind playing off of Carmelo late in games. 
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on February 22, 2013, 12:21:16 PM
Chicago Bulls: After 5 (and a big trade)

PG - Monta Ellis (chucker than Chuck E Cheese)
SG - Andre Iguodala (got robbed of a Slam Dunk contest)
SF - Luol Deng (Dukie)
PF - Glen Davis (KG made him cry once)
C  - Joakim Noah (still cool)

Bench:

G - Chauncey Billups (big shot)
F - Elton Brand (Eli Barnd according to my then 6 yr. brother)
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Who on February 22, 2013, 12:26:32 PM
Chicago Bulls: After 5 (and a big trade)

PG - Monta Ellis (chucker than Chuck E Cheese)
SG - Andre Iguodala (got robbed of a Slam Dunk contest)
SF - Luol Deng (Dukie)
PF - Glen Davis (KG made him cry once)
C  - Joakim Noah (still cool)

Bench:

G - Chauncey Billups (big shot)
F - Elton Brand (Eli Barnd according to my then 6 yr. brother)

Why did you decide to start Glen Davis over Elton Brand?
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: ronaldo943 on February 22, 2013, 12:28:12 PM
Russell Westbrook
Kevin Martin
Shawn Marion
Reggie Evans
J.J Hickson

Bench
Jamal Crawford
Al Farouq Aminu
Javale McGee

A really messed up team but the best rebounding team in the league ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: indeedproceed on February 22, 2013, 12:29:16 PM
Russell Westbrook
Kevin Martin
Shawn Marion
Reggie Evans
J.J Hickson

Bench
Jamal Crawford
Al Farouq Aminu
Javale McGee

A really messed up team but the best rebounding team in the league ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*

Ball movement is a luge issue.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on February 22, 2013, 12:30:34 PM
Chicago Bulls: After 5 (and a big trade)

PG - Monta Ellis (chucker than Chuck E Cheese)
SG - Andre Iguodala (got robbed of a Slam Dunk contest)
SF - Luol Deng (Dukie)
PF - Glen Davis (KG made him cry once)
C  - Joakim Noah (still cool)

Bench:

G - Chauncey Billups (big shot)
F - Elton Brand (Eli Barnd according to my then 6 yr. brother)

Why did you decide to start Glen Davis over Elton Brand?

Better offensively, not a lot of setback defensively.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: ronaldo943 on February 22, 2013, 12:30:54 PM
Russell Westbrook
Kevin Martin
Shawn Marion
Reggie Evans
J.J Hickson

Bench
Jamal Crawford
Al Farouq Aminu
Javale McGee

A really messed up team but the best rebounding team in the league ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*

Ball movement is a luge issue.

This isnt the CB Draft so i really dont care as  i still have the best REBOUNDING team  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: indeedproceed on February 22, 2013, 12:34:33 PM
Russell Westbrook
Kevin Martin
Shawn Marion
Reggie Evans
J.J Hickson

Bench
Jamal Crawford
Al Farouq Aminu
Javale McGee

A really messed up team but the best rebounding team in the league ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*

Ball movement is a luge issue.

This isnt the CB Draft so i really dont care as  i still have the best REBOUNDING team  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

That's a fair point.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: KGs Knee on February 22, 2013, 12:37:01 PM
Chicago Bulls: After 5 (and a big trade)

PG - Monta Ellis (chucker than Chuck E Cheese)
SG - Andre Iguodala (got robbed of a Slam Dunk contest)
SF - Luol Deng (Dukie)
PF - Glen Davis (KG made him cry once)
C  - Joakim Noah (still cool)

Bench:

G - Chauncey Billups (big shot)
F - Elton Brand (Eli Barnd according to my then 6 yr. brother)

Why did you decide to start Glen Davis over Elton Brand?

Better offensively, not a lot of setback defensively.

Isn't Davis currently out with a broken foot?
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on February 22, 2013, 12:38:40 PM
Chicago Bulls: After 5 (and a big trade)

PG - Monta Ellis (chucker than Chuck E Cheese)
SG - Andre Iguodala (got robbed of a Slam Dunk contest)
SF - Luol Deng (Dukie)
PF - Glen Davis (KG made him cry once)
C  - Joakim Noah (still cool)

Bench:

G - Chauncey Billups (big shot)
F - Elton Brand (Eli Barnd according to my then 6 yr. brother)

Why did you decide to start Glen Davis over Elton Brand?

Better offensively, not a lot of setback defensively.

Isn't Davis currently out with a broken foot?

Yes, but Pau is starting for some team I forgot with a torn PLantar Fascia and is out for weeks too.

I don't see the argument?
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: TheTruthFot18 on February 22, 2013, 12:38:58 PM
PG: Jrue Holiday ($2.67 mil)
SG: Ray Allen ($3.09 mil)
SF: Kevin Durant ($16.67 mil)
PF: Josh Smith ($13.20 mil
C: Kendrick Perkins ($7.12 mil), Jason Thompson ($3 mil)

Any love, or just fear?

Done un until I get home but any love/hate gets a TP  ;D
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: KGs Knee on February 22, 2013, 12:40:40 PM
Chicago Bulls: After 5 (and a big trade)

PG - Monta Ellis (chucker than Chuck E Cheese)
SG - Andre Iguodala (got robbed of a Slam Dunk contest)
SF - Luol Deng (Dukie)
PF - Glen Davis (KG made him cry once)
C  - Joakim Noah (still cool)

Bench:

G - Chauncey Billups (big shot)
F - Elton Brand (Eli Barnd according to my then 6 yr. brother)

Why did you decide to start Glen Davis over Elton Brand?

Better offensively, not a lot of setback defensively.

Isn't Davis currently out with a broken foot?

Yes, but Pau is starting for some team I forgot with a torn PLantar Fascia and is out for weeks too.

I don't see the argument?

Injuries count.

If you're talking about later in the season, sure, you've got a point.  Here and now, it doesn't fly.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Lucky17 on February 22, 2013, 12:42:43 PM
PG: Jrue Holiday ($2.67 mil)
SG: Ray Allen ($3.09 mil)
SF: Kevin Durant ($16.67 mil)
PF: Josh Smith ($13.20 mil
C: Kendrick Perkins ($7.12 mil), Jason Thompson ($3 mil)

Any love, or just fear?

Done un until I get home but any love/hate gets a TP  ;D

More love than hate. Not sure about Ray in that bunch. If he didn't like being the 4th option in Boston, not sure how he'll like it here.

I love your C tandem. JT was a guy we'd hoped to take.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on February 22, 2013, 12:43:15 PM
Chicago Bulls: After 5 (and a big trade)

PG - Monta Ellis (chucker than Chuck E Cheese)
SG - Andre Iguodala (got robbed of a Slam Dunk contest)
SF - Luol Deng (Dukie)
PF - Glen Davis (KG made him cry once)
C  - Joakim Noah (still cool)

Bench:

G - Chauncey Billups (big shot)
F - Elton Brand (Eli Barnd according to my then 6 yr. brother)

Why did you decide to start Glen Davis over Elton Brand?

Better offensively, not a lot of setback defensively.

Isn't Davis currently out with a broken foot?

Yes, but Pau is starting for some team I forgot with a torn PLantar Fascia and is out for weeks too.

I don't see the argument?

Injuries count.

If you're talking about later in the season, sure, you've got a point.  Here and now, it doesn't fly.

Fair point.

Okay, let's just say that's the depth chart. Until Baby gets back, Brand starts. Fair deal, right?
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Who on February 22, 2013, 12:48:35 PM
PG: Jrue Holiday ($2.67 mil)
SG: Ray Allen ($3.09 mil)
SF: Kevin Durant ($16.67 mil)
PF: Josh Smith ($13.20 mil
C: Kendrick Perkins ($7.12 mil), Jason Thompson ($3 mil)

Any love, or just fear?

Done un until I get home but any love/hate gets a TP  ;D

Jason Thompson is only on $3 million?

I thought he was on like $6 million a year. Has his contract extension not kicked in yet? I thought he had finished his rookie contract.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Who on February 22, 2013, 12:50:18 PM
PG: Jrue Holiday ($2.67 mil)
SG: Ray Allen ($3.09 mil)
SF: Kevin Durant ($16.67 mil)
PF: Josh Smith ($13.20 mil
C: Kendrick Perkins ($7.12 mil), Jason Thompson ($3 mil)

Any love, or just fear?

Done un until I get home but any love/hate gets a TP  ;D

I love it. Strong defensive team. Very good offensive team. Quality rebounding team.

A very strong well-balanced ball club. Title contender.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: fairweatherfan on February 22, 2013, 12:50:47 PM
PG: Jrue Holiday ($2.67 mil)
SG: Ray Allen ($3.09 mil)
SF: Kevin Durant ($16.67 mil)
PF: Josh Smith ($13.20 mil
C: Kendrick Perkins ($7.12 mil), Jason Thompson ($3 mil)

Any love, or just fear?

Done un until I get home but any love/hate gets a TP  ;D

Jason Thompson is only on $3 million?

I thought he was on like $6 million a year. Has his contract extension not kicked in yet? I thought he had finished his rookie contract.

Shamsports has him at $5.25.

Stop Googling salaries, guys - I think Google gives you last year's number.  Just go to http://data.shamsports.com/content/pages/data/salaries/index.jsp (http://data.shamsports.com/content/pages/data/salaries/index.jsp)

EDIT: Yup, Thompson made $3 mill last season.  Don't trust the sneaksy, tricksy Googleses! 
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Lucky17 on February 22, 2013, 12:51:41 PM
PG: Jrue Holiday ($2.67 mil)
SG: Ray Allen ($3.09 mil)
SF: Kevin Durant ($16.67 mil)
PF: Josh Smith ($13.20 mil
C: Kendrick Perkins ($7.12 mil), Jason Thompson ($3 mil)

Any love, or just fear?

Done un until I get home but any love/hate gets a TP  ;D

Jason Thompson is only on $3 million?

I thought he was on like $6 million a year. Has his contract extension not kicked in yet? I thought he had finished his rookie contract.

Correct. He signed an extension that starts at $5.25 million this year.

http://data.shamsports.com/content/pages/data/salaries/kings.jsp
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: AB_Celtic on February 22, 2013, 01:25:20 PM
Bucks after 5:

PG: B.Jennings
SG: W.Matthews
SF: T.Ariza/M.Webster
PF: D.Lee
C: N.Pekovic/I.Mahinmi

What's everyone think of the Mahinmi pick?
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Who on February 22, 2013, 01:28:03 PM
Bucks after 5:

PG: B.Jennings
SG: W.Matthews
SF: T.Ariza/M.Webster
PF: D.Lee
C: N.Pekovic/I.Mahinmi

What's everyone think of the Mahinmi pick?

Really good.

I think Mahinmi has improved a good amount this season. Bulked up. Tougher in the paint. He used to be easy to push around but he can stand his ground now. A better defender for it.

Nice mobile defensive center to couple with David Lee.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: AB_Celtic on February 22, 2013, 01:35:03 PM
Bucks after 5:

PG: B.Jennings
SG: W.Matthews
SF: T.Ariza/M.Webster
PF: D.Lee
C: N.Pekovic/I.Mahinmi

What's everyone think of the Mahinmi pick?

Really good.

I think Mahinmi has improved a good amount this season. Bulked up. Tougher in the paint. He used to be easy to push around but he can stand his ground now. A better defender for it.

Nice mobile defensive center to couple with David Lee.

I agree.

My only apprehension in picking Mahinmi was if he could play the 4. I was looking for a PF/C that could fill in the other spot depending on who was on the floor (Pek or Lee). In the end, though, Mahinmi was just too good a fit on my team.

I'll try to get a good enough PF in a later round so Lee can catch his breath.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Rondo2287 on February 22, 2013, 01:36:07 PM
Hawks after 5

PG: Jose Calderon
SG: Ronnie Brewer
SF: Danny Granger
PF: Kevin Love
C:  Al Horford/ Robin Lopez

Salary 54.7 out of 70.3  15.6 remaining

Really pumped about my brewer pick, I think he finishes my starting 5 well, just a solid defender that will keep the ball moving on offense.  I didnt need scoring out of that spot so I was happy to get very good defense at $854K
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: TheTruthFot18 on February 22, 2013, 01:43:30 PM
PG: Jrue Holiday ($2.67 mil)
SG: Ray Allen ($3.09 mil)
SF: Kevin Durant ($16.67 mil)
PF: Josh Smith ($13.20 mil
C: Kendrick Perkins ($7.12 mil), Jason Thompson ($3 mil)

Any love, or just fear?

Done un until I get home but any love/hate gets a TP  ;D

Jason Thompson is only on $3 million?

I thought he was on like $6 million a year. Has his contract extension not kicked in yet? I thought he had finished his rookie contract.

That was 2012. Should be 5.25. Ill update later. Thanks for the notice
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: KGs Knee on February 22, 2013, 02:00:30 PM
Brooklyn Nets after round 5

 C:  B.Lopez ($13.67m)
PF: C.Boozer ($15m)  A.Blatche ($.85m)
SF: M.Barnes ($.85m)
SG: K.Bryant ($27.85m)  J.Terry ($5m)
PG: G.Hill ($8m)

Remaining salary: $11.4m (including $.49m roster charge)


Thoughts???
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: KGs Knee on February 22, 2013, 02:03:48 PM
Bucks after 5:

PG: B.Jennings
SG: W.Matthews
SF: T.Ariza/M.Webster
PF: D.Lee
C: N.Pekovic/I.Mahinmi

What's everyone think of the Mahinmi pick?

I really liked the Mahinmi pick.

Overall, your roster has come a long way from the toxic combo of Monta and Jennings.  Likely 7th or 8th spot in the playoffs.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: AB_Celtic on February 22, 2013, 02:05:38 PM
Bucks after 5:

PG: B.Jennings
SG: W.Matthews
SF: T.Ariza/M.Webster
PF: D.Lee
C: N.Pekovic/I.Mahinmi

What's everyone think of the Mahinmi pick?

I really liked the Mahinmi pick.

Overall, your roster has come a long way from the toxic combo of Monta and Jennings.  Likely 7th or 8th spot in the playoffs.

I wish I could say I picked those two as a challenge, but I was stuck in 2k rating mode at the time (they're both 85's or so). Still, I've ended up liking the challenge, and I think I'll stick around for future drafts  ;D
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: KGs Knee on February 22, 2013, 02:05:46 PM
Hawks after 5

PG: Jose Calderon
SG: Ronnie Brewer
SF: Danny Granger
PF: Kevin Love
C:  Al Horford/ Robin Lopez

Salary 54.7 out of 70.3  15.6 remaining

Really pumped about my brewer pick, I think he finishes my starting 5 well, just a solid defender that will keep the ball moving on offense.  I didnt need scoring out of that spot so I was happy to get very good defense at $854K

It's a preety good squad.  Very nice front-court.  Back-court complements them reasonably well too.  I'd wager it's a 2nd round playoff team.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: indeedproceed on February 22, 2013, 02:09:35 PM
Finally, I feel like I can post this:

Cavs:

PG: Kyrie Irving/Isaiah Thomas
SG: Lance Stephenson
SF: Harrison Barnes
PF: Ryan Anderson
C: Andrew Bynum
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Roy H. on February 22, 2013, 02:11:47 PM
PG: Jrue Holiday ($2.67 mil)
SG: Ray Allen ($3.09 mil)
SF: Kevin Durant ($16.67 mil)
PF: Josh Smith ($13.20 mil
C: Kendrick Perkins ($7.12 mil), Jason Thompson ($3 mil)

Any love, or just fear?

Done un until I get home but any love/hate gets a TP  ;D

Off the top of my head, this is probably my pick for strongest squad.  However, there are lots of teams I'm probably overlooking.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Who on February 22, 2013, 02:12:16 PM
Finally, I feel like I can post this:

Cavs:

PG: Kyrie Irving/Isaiah Thomas
SG: Lance Stephenson
SF: Harrison Barnes
PF: Ryan Anderson
C: Andrew Bynum

Why did you choose Lance Stephenson? That pick surprised me.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Roy H. on February 22, 2013, 02:13:14 PM
Finally, I feel like I can post this:

Cavs:

PG: Kyrie Irving/Isaiah Thomas
SG: Lance Stephenson
SF: Harrison Barnes
PF: Ryan Anderson
C: Andrew Bynum DNP-INJ

If Bynum stays healthy, this is a future contender, just due to the Irving-Barnes-Bynum potential.  However, I've given up hope on Bynum.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: snively on February 22, 2013, 02:47:08 PM
Alright, I feel like the Rockets are starting to take shape.

Chalmers/Harden/Chandler/Nene/Hawes is my starting squad.  An offense built around Harden and Nene - either in the pick and roll together or on their own.  Chalmers will provide a capable 3-point threat to space the floor and a secondary ball-handler on the perimeter.  Chandler can space the floor a bit and attack the weaker defenders.  Hawes will be a floor spacer with his solid perimeter shooting, as well as a facilitator and supplementary scorer from the high and low post.  Manu will bring the pain off the bench, replacing Mario as a higher-usage PG and pick and roll threat alongside Harden, and then taking over the reins of the offense when Harden needs a break.  Marvin Williams' combo-forward skillset will allow us to stay big when Chandler rests or go small and up-tempo with Chandler at the 4 and Nene at the 5.

Defensively, we're not great, but we have good size and enough flexibility to match up against power teams and quick teams.

What holes do you think I should concentrate on filling - got two picks in the mid 6th that will be key.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Who on February 22, 2013, 02:56:07 PM
Alright, I feel like the Rockets are starting to take shape.

Chalmers/Harden/Chandler/Nene/Hawes is my starting squad.  An offense built around Harden and Nene - either in the pick and roll together or on their own.  Chalmers will provide a capable 3-point threat to space the floor and a secondary ball-handler on the perimeter.  Chandler can space the floor a bit and attack the weaker defenders.  Hawes will be a floor spacer with his solid perimeter shooting, as well as a facilitator and supplementary scorer from the high and low post.  Manu will bring the pain off the bench, replacing Mario as a higher-usage PG and pick and roll threat alongside Harden, and then taking over the reins of the offense when Harden needs a break.  Marvin Williams' combo-forward skillset will allow us to stay big when Chandler rests or go small and up-tempo with Chandler at the 4 and Nene at the 5.

Defensively, we're not great, but we have good size and enough flexibility to match up against power teams and quick teams.

What holes do you think I should concentrate on filling - got two picks in the mid 6th that will be key.

I think you are done. A seven man regular rotation.

Everything is already covered with the 7 guys you have selected. You can just go and run with that. Those guys will play night in night out and maybe you pick a specialist on a night by night basis as an 8th or even 9th guy depending on whatever (if any) extra skill-set the opponent you face.

I think it's just BPA from now on. Specialists to fill out your bench. An extra PG. A PF with legitimate size and bulk. An extra defensive C. Stuff like that. 
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: nickagneta on February 22, 2013, 03:16:30 PM
Lakers

Starters

PG: Deron Williams $17.18 million
SG: JJ Redick $6.19 million
SF: Metta Word Peace $7.26 million
PF: Andrei Kirilenko $9.78 million
C: Dwight Howard $19.54 million

Bench

C/PF: Tiago Splitter $3.94 million
SF: Mike Dunleavy $3.75 million

Total salary spent: $67.64 million
Cap remaining: $31.66 million


Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: KGs Knee on February 22, 2013, 03:21:54 PM
Brooklyn Nets after round 5

 C:  B.Lopez ($13.67m)
PF: C.Boozer ($15m)  A.Blatche ($.85m)
SF: M.Barnes ($.85m)
SG: K.Bryant ($27.85m)  J.Terry ($5m)
PG: G.Hill ($8m)

Remaining salary: $11.4m (including $.49m roster charge)


TP awarded to all comments
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: KCattheStripe on February 22, 2013, 03:23:07 PM
PG: Darren Collison 2.3
SG: Courtney Lee 5 .0
SF:Chandler Parsons 0.88
PF: Greg Monroe 3.2
C: Andre Drummond 2.3

Bench Andrea Bargnani 10.0 Rodney Stuckey 8.5

38.2 Million in Cap Space remaining.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: nickagneta on February 22, 2013, 03:26:12 PM
PG: Darren Collison 2.3
SG: Courtney Lee 5 .0
SF:Chandler Parsons 0.88
PF: Greg Monroe 3.2
C: Andre Drummond 2.3

Bench Andrea Bargnani 10.0 Rodney Stuckey 8.5

38.2 Million in Cap Space remaining.
LOL...your two player bench costs more than your starters
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: BleedGreen1989 on February 22, 2013, 03:26:46 PM
PG: Darren Collison 2.3
SG: Courtney Lee 5 .0
SF:Chandler Parsons 0.88
PF: Greg Monroe 3.2
C: Andre Drummond 2.3

Bench Andrea Bargnani 10.0 Rodney Stuckey 8.5

38.2 Million in Cap Space remaining.

Really like this team. I am still skeptical of Monroe and Drummond together but Bargs is a perfect compliment to either regardless
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: KGs Knee on February 22, 2013, 03:27:45 PM
PG: Darren Collison 2.3
SG: Courtney Lee 5 .0
SF:Chandler Parsons 0.88
PF: Greg Monroe 3.2
C: Andre Drummond 2.3

Bench Andrea Bargnani 10.0 Rodney Stuckey 8.5

38.2 Million in Cap Space remaining.

Only $15m more to go to reach the salary floor.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: indeedproceed on February 22, 2013, 03:33:54 PM
Finally, I feel like I can post this:

Cavs:

PG: Kyrie Irving/Isaiah Thomas
SG: Lance Stephenson
SF: Harrison Barnes
PF: Ryan Anderson (Greg Smith)
C: Andrew Bynum/Greg Smith

Why did you choose Lance Stephenson? That pick surprised me.

I think Lance Stephenson has improved by a significant margin from his previous performances. His shot and his shot selection has stabilized, his turnovers have been cut, and his defense is predictably (from scouting reports) stellar at the 2 position.

He's also started 46 games for the Pacers, playing nearly 30 minutes a contest, so I'm not worried about how the increased minutes will affect his production or energy levels.

What I wanted at my 2 spot was Tony Allen. What I got was a guy who has a high defensive potential, and is currently starting for a playoff team. So not Tony Allen, but not so bad either.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: BleedGreen1989 on February 22, 2013, 03:37:14 PM
Some trades I expected have not worked so this looks like what I am likely stuck. Will certainly take a different approach next draft but I am generally happy with the youth and talent of this team.

Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: slamtheking on February 22, 2013, 03:38:20 PM
Alright, I feel like the Rockets are starting to take shape.

Chalmers/Harden/Chandler/Nene/Hawes is my starting squad.  An offense built around Harden and Nene - either in the pick and roll together or on their own.  Chalmers will provide a capable 3-point threat to space the floor and a secondary ball-handler on the perimeter.  Chandler can space the floor a bit and attack the weaker defenders.  Hawes will be a floor spacer with his solid perimeter shooting, as well as a facilitator and supplementary scorer from the high and low post.  Manu will bring the pain off the bench, replacing Mario as a higher-usage PG and pick and roll threat alongside Harden, and then taking over the reins of the offense when Harden needs a break.  Marvin Williams' combo-forward skillset will allow us to stay big when Chandler rests or go small and up-tempo with Chandler at the 4 and Nene at the 5.

Defensively, we're not great, but we have good size and enough flexibility to match up against power teams and quick teams.

What holes do you think I should concentrate on filling - got two picks in the mid 6th that will be key.
nice looking team.  pretty well balanced.  hard to find any faults with it.  a better PG maybe but that's about it.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: KCattheStripe on February 22, 2013, 03:39:35 PM
PG: Darren Collison 2.3
SG: Courtney Lee 5 .0
SF:Chandler Parsons 0.88
PF: Greg Monroe 3.2
C: Andre Drummond 2.3

Bench Andrea Bargnani 10.0 Rodney Stuckey 8.5

38.2 Million in Cap Space remaining.

Really like this team. I am still skeptical of Monroe and Drummond together but Bargs is a perfect compliment to either regardless

If Joe D believes in them, I believe in them.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: KCattheStripe on February 22, 2013, 03:40:14 PM
PG: Darren Collison 2.3
SG: Courtney Lee 5 .0
SF:Chandler Parsons 0.88
PF: Greg Monroe 3.2
C: Andre Drummond 2.3

Bench Andrea Bargnani 10.0 Rodney Stuckey 8.5

38.2 Million in Cap Space remaining.
LOL...your two player bench costs more than your starters


Isn't it awesome?
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: slamtheking on February 22, 2013, 03:41:38 PM
no comments the first time around for my team.  how are they looking now?

Starters
Lebron James, Chris Bosh, Emeka Okafor, Brandon Knight, Mo Williams

Bench:
BJ Mullens, Lou Williams (currently injured but will be back next year)
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: ronaldo943 on February 22, 2013, 03:45:34 PM
no comments the first time around for my team.  how are they looking now?

Starters
Lebron James, Chris Bosh, Emeka Okafor, Brandon Knight, Mo Williams

Bench:
BJ Mullens, Lou Williams (currently injured but will be back next year)

Nice team i dont know if the fit is there though
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: BleedGreen1989 on February 22, 2013, 03:49:34 PM
no comments the first time around for my team.  how are they looking now?

Starters
Lebron James, Chris Bosh, Emeka Okafor, Brandon Knight, Mo Williams

Bench:
BJ Mullens, Lou Williams (currently injured but will be back next year)

Nice team i dont know if the fit is there though

Personally thought Okafur was a bit of a reach in the first but Mullins would be a great fit and nice value.

In the end you have Lebron, doesn't matter a lot what's around him lol
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: indeedproceed on February 22, 2013, 03:50:59 PM
So no one has enlightened thoughts about my bold choices in Lance Stephenson, Isaiah THomas, or Greg Smith?
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: slamtheking on February 22, 2013, 03:51:14 PM
no comments the first time around for my team.  how are they looking now?

Starters
Lebron James, Chris Bosh, Emeka Okafor, Brandon Knight, Mo Williams

Bench:
BJ Mullens, Lou Williams (currently injured but will be back next year)

Nice team i dont know if the fit is there though
anything in particular that you don't feel fits together?  just curious. 

I could use some depth obviously but I think my starters are all pretty smart players, good passers and my frontcourt players are all very good defenders.  All are good scorers so Lebron won't have to carry the load himself.  Hoping to address the holes (that I see) in the next few rounds. 
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: CelticConcourse on February 22, 2013, 03:52:08 PM
no comments the first time around for my team.  how are they looking now?

Starters
Lebron James, Chris Bosh, Emeka Okafor, Brandon Knight, Mo Williams

Bench:
BJ Mullens, Lou Williams (currently injured but will be back next year)

Nice team i dont know if the fit is there though
anything in particular that you don't feel fits together?  just curious. 

I could use some depth obviously but I think my starters are all pretty smart players, good passers and my frontcourt players are all very good defenders.  All are good scorers so Lebron won't have to carry the load himself.  Hoping to address the holes (that I see) in the next few rounds.

I don't know why, but I just feel Emeka doesn't fit.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: ronaldo943 on February 22, 2013, 03:52:25 PM
So no one has enlightened thoughts about my bold choices in Lance Stephenson, Isaiah THomas, or Greg Smith?


No its the Pick 2 Draft  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: slamtheking on February 22, 2013, 03:52:27 PM
no comments the first time around for my team.  how are they looking now?

Starters
Lebron James, Chris Bosh, Emeka Okafor, Brandon Knight, Mo Williams

Bench:
BJ Mullens, Lou Williams (currently injured but will be back next year)

Nice team i dont know if the fit is there though

Personally thought Okafur was a bit of a reach in the first but Mullins would be a great fit and nice value.

In the end you have Lebron, doesn't matter a lot what's around him lol
I see your point on Emeka and it's hard to disagree.  just knowing that there's always an early run on bigs is a primary reason to grab a solid center early.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: slamtheking on February 22, 2013, 03:53:13 PM
no comments the first time around for my team.  how are they looking now?

Starters
Lebron James, Chris Bosh, Emeka Okafor, Brandon Knight, Mo Williams

Bench:
BJ Mullens, Lou Williams (currently injured but will be back next year)

Nice team i dont know if the fit is there though
anything in particular that you don't feel fits together?  just curious. 

I could use some depth obviously but I think my starters are all pretty smart players, good passers and my frontcourt players are all very good defenders.  All are good scorers so Lebron won't have to carry the load himself.  Hoping to address the holes (that I see) in the next few rounds.

I don't know why, but I just feel Emeka doesn't fit.
yeah, he's not an up-tempo guy like the others but in the halfcourt, he's pretty handy.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: CelticConcourse on February 22, 2013, 03:54:13 PM
no comments the first time around for my team.  how are they looking now?

Starters
Lebron James, Chris Bosh, Emeka Okafor, Brandon Knight, Mo Williams

Bench:
BJ Mullens, Lou Williams (currently injured but will be back next year)

Nice team i dont know if the fit is there though
anything in particular that you don't feel fits together?  just curious. 

I could use some depth obviously but I think my starters are all pretty smart players, good passers and my frontcourt players are all very good defenders.  All are good scorers so Lebron won't have to carry the load himself.  Hoping to address the holes (that I see) in the next few rounds.

I don't know why, but I just feel Emeka doesn't fit.
yeah, he's not an up-tempo guy like the others but in the halfcourt, he's pretty handy.

Are there any running bigs (6'11"+) you could possibly pick up?
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: KGs Knee on February 22, 2013, 03:54:47 PM
So no one has enlightened thoughts about my bold choices in Lance Stephenson, Isaiah THomas, or Greg Smith?

Heck, I even offered TP's for thought on my squad, and got nothing.

Smith and Stevenson I'm not knowledgeable enough on to comment.

I did like your Thomas pick though.  Nice bench player to fit in behind Kyrie.  Mini-microwave type.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: KCattheStripe on February 22, 2013, 03:55:14 PM
So no one has enlightened thoughts about my bold choices in Lance Stephenson, Isaiah THomas, or Greg Smith?

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-EgH6kLFRF5M/UB4__CtrfwI/AAAAAAAAEaQ/9iH4Y81z7Hk/s1600/23471605.jpg)
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: KCattheStripe on February 22, 2013, 03:56:27 PM
My issue with emeka is that it moves LeBron to the 3, where it's easier for defenders to hang with him, but when he's at the 4 he's an ungodly monster.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: ronaldo943 on February 22, 2013, 03:56:43 PM
Brooklyn Nets after round 5

 C:  B.Lopez ($13.67m)
PF: C.Boozer ($15m)  A.Blatche ($.85m)
SF: M.Barnes ($.85m)
SG: K.Bryant ($27.85m)  J.Terry ($5m)
PG: G.Hill ($8m)

Remaining salary: $11.4m (including $.49m roster charge)


Thoughts???

I dont like Matt Barnes and Carlos Boozer on that team
Where are my TPs?
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: KGs Knee on February 22, 2013, 04:00:14 PM
no comments the first time around for my team.  how are they looking now?

Starters
Lebron James, Chris Bosh, Emeka Okafor, Brandon Knight, Mo Williams

Bench:
BJ Mullens, Lou Williams (currently injured but will be back next year)

LeBron alone is good enough to get you into the 2nd round.  Bosh and Emeka is strange to me, only because Emeka probably needs to ride the bench late in games.

Only qualm I had was the Lou Williams pick.  Injured and out for the year (I believe).  Not a great pick in my eyes.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: KGs Knee on February 22, 2013, 04:01:16 PM
Brooklyn Nets after round 5

 C:  B.Lopez ($13.67m)
PF: C.Boozer ($15m)  A.Blatche ($.85m)
SF: M.Barnes ($.85m)
SG: K.Bryant ($27.85m)  J.Terry ($5m)
PG: G.Hill ($8m)

Remaining salary: $11.4m (including $.49m roster charge)


Thoughts???

I dont like Matt Barnes and Carlos Boozer on that team
Where are my TPs?

One TP paid, even if your wayyyyyy wrong.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: ronaldo943 on February 22, 2013, 04:03:52 PM
Brooklyn Nets after round 5

 C:  B.Lopez ($13.67m)
PF: C.Boozer ($15m)  A.Blatche ($.85m)
SF: M.Barnes ($.85m)
SG: K.Bryant ($27.85m)  J.Terry ($5m)
PG: G.Hill ($8m)

Remaining salary: $11.4m (including $.49m roster charge)


Thoughts???

I dont like Matt Barnes and Carlos Boozer on that team
Where are my TPs?

One TP paid, even if your wayyyyyy wrong.

Say it wit yo chest!
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: indeedproceed on February 22, 2013, 04:16:34 PM
Brooklyn Nets after round 5

 C:  B.Lopez ($13.67m)
PF: C.Boozer ($15m)  A.Blatche ($.85m)
SF: M.Barnes ($.85m)
SG: K.Bryant ($27.85m)  J.Terry ($5m)
PG: G.Hill ($8m)

Remaining salary: $11.4m (including $.49m roster charge)


Thoughts???

LOVE: George Hill next to Kobe, Brook Lopez's offensive game, Jason Terry as a Kobe-sub and game closer. The half-court potential of the offense is very strong here.

Neutral: Boozer's offensive game, his defense of centers. Andray Blatche's 'reformation', Kobe's ability to be the principal facilitator in the offense (which he would need to be).

Hate: Brook Lopez and Carlos Boozer as a defensive tandem, and the defensive viability of the situation as a whole. Matt Barnes in general. Athleticism isn't very high, and speed will be a liability here.

Overall: Need to improve athleticism, preferably starting with the 3. A great addition (and I'm not saying this to be difficult) would be Kawhi Leonard.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Who on February 22, 2013, 04:16:59 PM
So no one has enlightened thoughts about my bold choices in Lance Stephenson, Isaiah THomas, or Greg Smith?

Isaiah Thomas = Middle of the pack backup PG. Too small and weak. Lousy defender/rebounder. Solid skill-level offensively.

Lance Stephenson = I haven't been impressed by in his time as a starter. He hasn't been able to create offensively against players his own size and is too limited off the ball. A weak offensive player. A good solid defender/rebounder but he doesn't bring enough to the table to earn a starting position. One of the limiting factors in Indiana's success this year. I rate him as a well below average but passable backup SG. I still prefer him as lead ball-handler (PG).

Greg Smith = I read that he got sent down to the D-League recently because he stopped putting in effort defensively and wasn't playing with enough energy. Just wanted to shoot the ball. He looked quite good when he first broke into the Rockets team but his play has deteriorated since then leading to the demotion to the D-League.

I thought Greg Smith showed really good talent offensively with that jump-shot and finishing around the basket. Very efficient. His rebounding numbers are good so he can clearly rebound when focused. I don't have a good read on him defensively.

I think he'll be fine in the long run. Just a bump (the D-League demotion) in the road me thinks. Showed too much talent to disappear for long.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: snively on February 22, 2013, 04:19:27 PM
Lakers

Starters

PG: Deron Williams $17.18 million
SG: JJ Redick $6.19 million
SF: Metta Word Peace $7.26 million
PF: Andrei Kirilenko $9.78 million
C: Dwight Howard $19.54 million

Bench

C/PF: Tiago Splitter $3.94 million
SF: Mike Dunleavy $3.75 million

Total salary spent: $67.64 million
Cap remaining: $31.66 million

Scary team.  An embarrassment of riches at center, an excellent backcourt, and an intriguing Jekyll/Hyde tandem with MWP/Dunleavy + AK's versatility.   

Impressive work.

The one thing that comes to mind immediately is that Splitter/Howard together won't work as well as Splitter/Duncan, so I'd look to add a PF with range, or trade Splitter for a F/C who can play with Howard more.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Who on February 22, 2013, 04:22:39 PM
Brooklyn Nets after round 5

 C:  B.Lopez ($13.67m)
PF: C.Boozer ($15m)  A.Blatche ($.85m)
SF: M.Barnes ($.85m)
SG: K.Bryant ($27.85m)  J.Terry ($5m)
PG: G.Hill ($8m)

Remaining salary: $11.4m (including $.49m roster charge)


TP awarded to all comments

I am really high on your backcourt (Kobe, Terry, Hill) and Brook Lopez.

I like Andray Blatche very much as a backup center but would like him more if he had a better defensive center in front of him. Not against a Brook-Blatche combo but a little less happy with it than I would be with Blatche as my backup center otherwise. One of the best, if not the best, offensive backup centers in the league.

I do not like your forward combination. I don't think it works well with your team.

I like Matt Barnes as a backup SF but I think he is out of his depth as a starting SF. He is lacking too much in quickness / athleticism and will be considerably less effective defensively there than when coming off the bench.

I like Carlos Boozer as an individual player but I really hate the idea of Boozer and B.Lopez together defensively. It's more a question of fit than talent. Boozer is still a good player in his own right.

I dislike the idea of Blatche being used mainly at PF rather than C. He is a less effective player there than at C. He needs to play closer to the rim. Plays too far out and takes too many jumpers at PF. A few minutes at PF would be fine but extensive playing time there would cause problems.

I think your backcourt and center rotation will carry your team to a strong 50-55 win playoff squad but that your forwards and lack of interior defense will stop you from being a contender.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: snively on February 22, 2013, 04:26:09 PM
no comments the first time around for my team.  how are they looking now?

Starters
Lebron James, Chris Bosh, Emeka Okafor, Brandon Knight, Mo Williams

Bench:
BJ Mullens, Lou Williams (currently injured but will be back next year)

I think you invested too heavily in Okafor and a lot of combo guards.  Need another wing or two or three to allow for the small ball line-ups that LBJ has been so deadly in.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: KGs Knee on February 22, 2013, 04:26:50 PM
Some food for thought on Carlos Boozer as a terrible defender.

Of all PF's listed who have played a minimum of 1000 minutes this season, Carlos Boozer with his DRtg of 99, ranks 2nd behind only David West.

Of all PF's listed who have played a minimum of 1000 minutes, Carlos Boozer with a DRB% of 25.8, ranks 3rd.

Is Boozer as good as his stats say, no.  Playing next to Joakim Noah boosts his numbers somewhat.  Is he a terrible defender as some here say, not a chance.

He is overpaid at $15m per, but for this excercise, I am hardly moved by this.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: KGs Knee on February 22, 2013, 04:32:22 PM
And yes, I agree Matt Barnes starting at SF is an issue.

TP's paid for all your comments.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: indeedproceed on February 22, 2013, 04:33:42 PM
Some food for thought on Carlos Boozer as a terrible defender.

Of all PF's listed who have played a minimum of 1000 minutes this season, Carlos Boozer with his DRtg of 99, ranks 2nd behind only David West.

Of all PF's listed who have played a minimum of 1000 minutes, Carlos Boozer with a DRB% of 25.8, ranks 3rd.

Is Boozer as good as his stats say, no.  Playing next to Joakim Noah boosts his numbers somewhat.  Is he a terrible defender as some here say, not a chance.

He is overpaid at $15m per, but for this excercise, I am hardly moved by this.

Its not that he's a terrible defender, its that he's no longer able to hang with quicker forwards. He also isn't great at defending the P&R. And Brook Lopez can't do either of those things either.

You want Boozer next to a quick agile 5 who can shrink the floor. Lopez can't do that.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: fairweatherfan on February 22, 2013, 04:34:54 PM
Some food for thought on Carlos Boozer as a terrible defender.

Of all PF's listed who have played a minimum of 1000 minutes this season, Carlos Boozer with his DRtg of 99, ranks 2nd behind only David West.

Ed Davis has played 1170 minutes and has a DRtg of 98 for the 83 minutes he's played in Memphis
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: ronaldo943 on February 22, 2013, 04:39:39 PM
Some food for thought on Carlos Boozer as a terrible defender.

Of all PF's listed who have played a minimum of 1000 minutes this season, Carlos Boozer with his DRtg of 99, ranks 2nd behind only David West.

Ed Davis has played 1170 minutes and has a DRtg of 98 for the 83 minutes he's played in Memphis
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: StartOrien on February 22, 2013, 04:40:00 PM
Some food for thought on Carlos Boozer as a terrible defender.

Of all PF's listed who have played a minimum of 1000 minutes this season, Carlos Boozer with his DRtg of 99, ranks 2nd behind only David West.

Of all PF's listed who have played a minimum of 1000 minutes, Carlos Boozer with a DRB% of 25.8, ranks 3rd.

Is Boozer as good as his stats say, no.  Playing next to Joakim Noah boosts his numbers somewhat.  Is he a terrible defender as some here say, not a chance.

He is overpaid at $15m per, but for this excercise, I am hardly moved by this.

CARLOS BOOZER CAN DEFEND THE CENTER POSITION *mic drop*
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: AB_Celtic on February 22, 2013, 04:41:31 PM
Some food for thought on Carlos Boozer as a terrible defender.

Of all PF's listed who have played a minimum of 1000 minutes this season, Carlos Boozer with his DRtg of 99, ranks 2nd behind only David West.

Of all PF's listed who have played a minimum of 1000 minutes, Carlos Boozer with a DRB% of 25.8, ranks 3rd.

Is Boozer as good as his stats say, no.  Playing next to Joakim Noah boosts his numbers somewhat.  Is he a terrible defender as some here say, not a chance.

He is overpaid at $15m per, but for this excercise, I am hardly moved by this.

KGK, where do you look up DRtg's? I use basketball-reference.com but that doesn't allow you to see the rankings.

EDIT: Neeeeeeever mind. Yes it does.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: indeedproceed on February 22, 2013, 04:42:38 PM
So no one has enlightened thoughts about my bold choices in Lance Stephenson, Isaiah THomas, or Greg Smith?

Isaiah Thomas = Middle of the pack backup PG. Too small and weak. Lousy defender/rebounder. Solid skill-level offensively.

Lance Stephenson = I haven't been impressed by in his time as a starter. He hasn't been able to create offensively against players his own size and is too limited off the ball. A weak offensive player. A good solid defender/rebounder but he doesn't bring enough to the table to earn a starting position. One of the limiting factors in Indiana's success this year. I rate him as a well below average but passable backup SG. I still prefer him as lead ball-handler (PG).

Rarely do I disagree with everything you put out there, but this is the case here. Per Thomas, he is small, and he isnt terribly strong, but he's got a super-high motor and a scoring touch, and with the way I'm constructing the second unit (tough defenders, versatile), my vision is that he's the straw that stirs the drink. I don't think his talent level is so low among backup PG's, and I'd say there are only a handful of them out there who are definitively above Thomas. Not ideal as a starter, but he's no middle of the pack backup.

Per Stephenson: I haven't watched a ton of Pacers ball this year, but I do read about them a lot. Here's something about Stephenson in a recent game. (http://blogs.pacers.com/stephenson-wasnt-out-to-impress-knicks/) Here's another thing.  (http://sports.yahoo.com/news/lance-stephenson-not-paul-george-pacers-most-improved-165500587--nba.html) He also has the second best ON/Off the court numbers on the Pacers (http://www.82games.com/1213/1213IND.HTM), so while maybe there are more than a few guys you'd rather have starting there, I don't think on the Pacers he's the worst choice. He's likely below average as a starting 2, but he's not the worst one in the league either.

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Greg Smith = I read that he got sent down to the D-League recently because he stopped putting in effort defensively and wasn't playing with enough energy. Just wanted to shoot the ball. He looked quite good when he first broke into the Rockets team but his play has deteriorated since then leading to the demotion to the D-League.

I thought Greg Smith showed really good talent offensively with that jump-shot and finishing around the basket. Very efficient. His rebounding numbers are good so he can clearly rebound when focused. I don't have a good read on him defensively.

I think he'll be fine in the long run. Just a bump (the D-League demotion) in the road me thinks. Showed too much talent to disappear for long.

Ultimately, this was my conclusion as well. Who knows though. I'm glad I dont have to defend him ala CB Draft character standards.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: KGs Knee on February 22, 2013, 04:42:54 PM
Some food for thought on Carlos Boozer as a terrible defender.

Of all PF's listed who have played a minimum of 1000 minutes this season, Carlos Boozer with his DRtg of 99, ranks 2nd behind only David West.

Ed Davis has played 1170 minutes and has a DRtg of 98 for the 83 minutes he's played in Memphis


This gets a serious    LOL!!!

I will gladly pay you one TP in an hour
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: fairweatherfan on February 22, 2013, 04:49:45 PM
Some food for thought on Carlos Boozer as a terrible defender.

Of all PF's listed who have played a minimum of 1000 minutes this season, Carlos Boozer with his DRtg of 99, ranks 2nd behind only David West.

Ed Davis has played 1170 minutes and has a DRtg of 98 for the 83 minutes he's played in Memphis


This gets a serious    LOL!!!

I will gladly pay you one TP in an hour

Hey I'm an honest guy, I'm just not always honest at a normal speaking tone ;D

Seriously though, Davis' O vs D ratings (114/105 career) despite playing on some lousy Raptor teams were a big factor in picking him over a couple other backup big options. 
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: fairweatherfan on February 22, 2013, 04:56:29 PM
So as long as I'm here, how do you guys see the respective conferences shaking out?  This is off the top of my head so I may be omitting somebody, but I see the conference final caliber-teams like this (in no particular order):

East:
KNICKS
Nets
Heat

West:
Thunder
Lakers
Clippers

Gun to my head, I say conference finalists are Knicks vs Nets in the East, and Thunder vs Clippers in the West.  Lakers and Heat are right there with them, though.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Who on February 22, 2013, 05:00:29 PM
So as long as I'm here, how do you guys see the respective conferences shaking out?  This is off the top of my head so I may be omitting somebody, but I see the conference final caliber-teams like this (in no particular order):

East:
KNICKS
Nets
Heat

West:
Thunder
Lakers
Clippers

Gun to my head, I say conference finalists are Knicks vs Nets in the East, and Thunder vs Clippers in the West.  Lakers and Heat are right there with them, though.

I like Dallas a lot in the West. I would add them to that list of top West teams.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: KGs Knee on February 22, 2013, 05:01:23 PM
So as long as I'm here, how do you guys see the respective conferences shaking out?  This is off the top of my head so I may be omitting somebody, but I see the conference final caliber-teams like this (in no particular order):

East:
KNICKS
Nets
Heat

West:
Thunder
Lakers
Clippers

Gun to my head, I say conference finalists are Knicks vs Nets in the East, and Thunder vs Clippers in the West.  Lakers and Heat are right there with them, though.

I say this is pretty spot on, not to toot my own horn.  ;D

I'd also add the Rockets and Mavs to the West mix and the Hawks to the East mix.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: CelticConcourse on February 22, 2013, 05:02:39 PM
Memphis Grizzlies

Coach: Gregg Popovich

PG: Greivis Vásquez ($1.19 million)
SG: Klay Thompson ($2.22 million)
SF: Jeff Green ($8.38 million)
PF: Zach Randolph ($16.50 million)
C: Omer Asik ($8.37 million)

PG: Andre Miller ($5.00 million)
____________________
SF: Caron Butler ($8.00 million)
____________________
____________________

$20,626,954 in cap space for:
7.15, 8.11, 8.15, 9.15, 9.19, 11.15

Why are guards so cheap? >_> I'd appreciate if someone gave me some advice :D TPs!
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: TheTruthFot18 on February 22, 2013, 05:04:24 PM
So as long as I'm here, how do you guys see the respective conferences shaking out?  This is off the top of my head so I may be omitting somebody, but I see the conference final caliber-teams like this (in no particular order):

East:
KNICKS
Nets
Heat

West:
Thunder
Lakers
Clippers

Gun to my head, I say conference finalists are Knicks vs Nets in the East, and Thunder vs Clippers in the West.  Lakers and Heat are right there with them, though.

I like Dallas a lot in the West. I would add them to that list of top West teams.

TP for the OKC love. I haven't got a chance to look at every team but I agree Dallas is right up there.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Lucky17 on February 22, 2013, 05:05:24 PM
Blazers after 5th round:

PG: Damian Lillard
SG: Thabo Sefolosha
SF: Tayshaun Prince
PF: David West
C:  LaMarcus Aldridge

PG/SG: Ramon Sessions
SG/SF: Kyle Singler
PF/C:  Nick Collison
C: Jonas Valanciunas

4 picks remaining, plenty of payroll space.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: CelticConcourse on February 22, 2013, 05:06:00 PM
Blazers after 5th round:

PG: Damian Lillard
SG: Thabo Sefolosha
SF: Tayshaun Prince
PF: David West
C:  LaMarcus Aldridge

PG/SG: Ramon Sessions
SG/SF: Kyle Singler
PF/C:  Nick Collison
C: Jonas Valanciunas

4 picks remaining, plenty of payroll space.

I see FIVE picks in your sig
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: fairweatherfan on February 22, 2013, 05:07:49 PM
Dallas is a good call.  I see the Hawks as a notch below the 3 East teams - a tough 2nd round out who could maybe make an ECF run if things break their way.  But even that is assuming Love can return to form.  I place the Rockets in a similar tier.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: StartOrien on February 22, 2013, 05:10:55 PM
I got these guys

(http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs42/i/2009/082/5/b/Garnett_VS_Duncan_by_kwangki.jpg)
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: fairweatherfan on February 22, 2013, 05:11:02 PM
Blazers after 5th round:

PG: Damian Lillard
SG: Thabo Sefolosha
SF: Tayshaun Prince
PF: David West
C:  LaMarcus Aldridge

PG/SG: Ramon Sessions
SG/SF: Kyle Singler
PF/C:  Nick Collison
C: Jonas Valanciunas

4 picks remaining, plenty of payroll space.

I love the roster as a whole but you've got a hybrid of guys heading into their down years (West & Prince, Collison) and up-and-comers (Lillard, Aldridge, maybe Valanciunas).  It'll be tough to balance it so the core gels for a championship run before the wheels fall off the older guys.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: StartOrien on February 22, 2013, 05:12:02 PM
Ha, I'm sure this was for a commercial or something. But this is still pretty funny

(http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn200/nbacardDOTnet/zz%20NBA%20Photo%20Gallery/z%20Funny%20NBA%20Photos/0%20Players/0%20MDE%20Dwight%20Howard%20aka%20Most%20Dominant%20Elbow%20Ver%202/-howardsweepingcopy.jpg)
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: KGs Knee on February 22, 2013, 05:15:17 PM
I got these guys

(http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs42/i/2009/082/5/b/Garnett_VS_Duncan_by_kwangki.jpg)

This is hands down my favorite duo to come out of this draft.

The problem is, I just don't see one single difference maker at any of your other positions.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Atzar on February 22, 2013, 05:21:00 PM
Tony Parker
Danny Green
Joe Johnson / Carlos Delfino
Tristan Thompson / Earl Clark
Pau Gasol / Bismack Biyombo


Thoughts?  Is this a contender?
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: CelticConcourse on February 22, 2013, 05:23:15 PM
Tony Parker
Danny Green
Joe Johnson / Carlos Delfino
Tristan Thompson / Earl Clark
Pau Gasol / Bismack Biyombo


Thoughts?  Is this a contender?

I think you need  another impact guy, preferably a vet big.

Why won't anyone do mine? >_<
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Atzar on February 22, 2013, 05:31:52 PM
Tony Parker
Danny Green
Joe Johnson / Carlos Delfino
Tristan Thompson / Earl Clark
Pau Gasol / Bismack Biyombo


Thoughts?  Is this a contender?

I think you need  another impact guy, preferably a vet big.

Why won't anyone do mine? >_<

Parker/Johnson/Gasol are all impact guys.  Not sure why I need another one.  Not every player can be a star.

As for yours, I've talked with you at length about what I think of your team.  My opinion remains the same.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: KGs Knee on February 22, 2013, 05:32:27 PM
Why won't anyone do mine? >_<

Very strange collection of players.  Not really sure what to think.

Not bad enough to be a rebuilding team, not nearly good enough to be a contender. Need a difference maker on the perimeter.

Possible 1st round playoff fodder is the ceiling I'd guess.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: StartOrien on February 22, 2013, 05:33:35 PM
I got these guys

(http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs42/i/2009/082/5/b/Garnett_VS_Duncan_by_kwangki.jpg)

This is hands down my favorite duo to come out of this draft.

The problem is, I just don't see one single difference maker at any of your other positions.

This 'difference maker' is going to be what drives me insane because I just don't think it's necessary. There's a specific skillset required to play around two elite post players, and you don't need a difference maker on the wing to get the most out of that player offensively. Think about Rudy Gay on the Grizzlies. Or think about how great of a team, despite not winning a championship, the Sacramento Kings were without a Rudy Gay type.

I've two elite 7 foot post players who are skilled passers, and are premier mid range scorers. You find the mistmatch in the front court and you pound away at it. If it doesn't work you kick out and swing the ball to the other side hoping to find either a 3 point shot along the way or to put it in the post on the other side.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: CelticConcourse on February 22, 2013, 05:35:28 PM
I got these guys

(http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs42/i/2009/082/5/b/Garnett_VS_Duncan_by_kwangki.jpg)

This is hands down my favorite duo to come out of this draft.

The problem is, I just don't see one single difference maker at any of your other positions.

This 'difference maker' is going to be what drives me insane because I just don't think it's necessary. There's a specific skillset required to play around two elite post players, and you don't need a difference maker on the wing to get the most out of that player offensively. Think about Rudy Gay on the Grizzlies. Or think about how great of a team, despite not winning a championship, the Sacramento Kings were without a Rudy Gay type.

I've two elite 7 foot post players who are skilled passers, and are premier mid range scorers. You find the mistmatch in the front court and you pound away at it. If it doesn't work you kick out and swing the ball to the other side hoping to find either a 3 point shot along the way or to put it in the post on the other side.

I just see many chemistry issues. Duncan and Garnett want nothing to do with each other, and probably will refuse to play together. Sorry for you, but it just can not work ;D A team breakup in the first season is imminent. Rivals don't simply join up.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Atzar on February 22, 2013, 05:39:03 PM
I got these guys

(http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs42/i/2009/082/5/b/Garnett_VS_Duncan_by_kwangki.jpg)

This is hands down my favorite duo to come out of this draft.

The problem is, I just don't see one single difference maker at any of your other positions.

This 'difference maker' is going to be what drives me insane because I just don't think it's necessary. There's a specific skillset required to play around two elite post players, and you don't need a difference maker on the wing to get the most out of that player offensively. Think about Rudy Gay on the Grizzlies. Or think about how great of a team, despite not winning a championship, the Sacramento Kings were without a Rudy Gay type.

I've two elite 7 foot post players who are skilled passers, and are premier mid range scorers. You find the mistmatch in the front court and you pound away at it. If it doesn't work you kick out and swing the ball to the other side hoping to find either a 3 point shot along the way or to put it in the post on the other side.

I just see many chemistry issues. Duncan and Garnett want nothing to do with each other, and probably will refuse to play together. Sorry for you, but it just can not work ;D A team breakup in the first season is imminent. Rivals don't simply join up.

That's just naive.  You don't think Duncan would have been thrilled if the Spurs picked up KG at the deadline?  Come on.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Rondo2287 on February 22, 2013, 05:40:03 PM
So as long as I'm here, how do you guys see the respective conferences shaking out?  This is off the top of my head so I may be omitting somebody, but I see the conference final caliber-teams like this (in no particular order):

East:
KNICKS
Nets
Heat

West:
Thunder
Lakers
Clippers

Gun to my head, I say conference finalists are Knicks vs Nets in the East, and Thunder vs Clippers in the West.  Lakers and Heat are right there with them, though.

The hawks think your a hater
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: CelticConcourse on February 22, 2013, 05:40:55 PM
I got these guys

(http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs42/i/2009/082/5/b/Garnett_VS_Duncan_by_kwangki.jpg)

This is hands down my favorite duo to come out of this draft.

The problem is, I just don't see one single difference maker at any of your other positions.

This 'difference maker' is going to be what drives me insane because I just don't think it's necessary. There's a specific skillset required to play around two elite post players, and you don't need a difference maker on the wing to get the most out of that player offensively. Think about Rudy Gay on the Grizzlies. Or think about how great of a team, despite not winning a championship, the Sacramento Kings were without a Rudy Gay type.

I've two elite 7 foot post players who are skilled passers, and are premier mid range scorers. You find the mistmatch in the front court and you pound away at it. If it doesn't work you kick out and swing the ball to the other side hoping to find either a 3 point shot along the way or to put it in the post on the other side.

I just see many chemistry issues. Duncan and Garnett want nothing to do with each other, and probably will refuse to play together. Sorry for you, but it just can not work ;D A team breakup in the first season is imminent. Rivals don't simply join up.

That's just naive.  You don't think Duncan would have been thrilled if the Spurs picked up KG at the deadline?  Come on.

I do know they strongly dislike one another, despite having respect. I can't picture them being good friends. Apart from their stats and careers, they're polar opposites!
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Atzar on February 22, 2013, 05:41:27 PM
So as long as I'm here, how do you guys see the respective conferences shaking out?  This is off the top of my head so I may be omitting somebody, but I see the conference final caliber-teams like this (in no particular order):

East:
KNICKS
Nets
Heat

West:
Thunder
Lakers
Clippers

Gun to my head, I say conference finalists are Knicks vs Nets in the East, and Thunder vs Clippers in the West.  Lakers and Heat are right there with them, though.

The hawks think your a hater

The lack of Wizards also disappoints me.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: ronaldo943 on February 22, 2013, 05:42:54 PM
Russell Westbrook
Kevin Martin
Shawn Marion
Reggie Evans
J.J Hickson

Bench
Jamal Crawford
Al Farouq Aminu
Javale McGee

A really messed up team but the best rebounding team in the league ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: CelticConcourse on February 22, 2013, 05:43:55 PM
So as long as I'm here, how do you guys see the respective conferences shaking out?  This is off the top of my head so I may be omitting somebody, but I see the conference final caliber-teams like this (in no particular order):

East:
KNICKS
Nets
Heat

West:
Thunder
Lakers
Clippers

Gun to my head, I say conference finalists are Knicks vs Nets in the East, and Thunder vs Clippers in the West.  Lakers and Heat are right there with them, though.

The hawks think your a hater

The lack of Wizards also disappoints me.

Sources: Memphis targeting Championship this season
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Rondo2287 on February 22, 2013, 05:44:22 PM
Russell Westbrook
Kevin Martin
Shawn Marion
Reggie Evans
J.J Hickson

Bench
Jamal Crawford
Al Farouq Aminu
Javale McGee

A really messed up team but the best rebounding team in the league ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*

I like your backcourt, hate your front court
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Atzar on February 22, 2013, 05:44:50 PM
I got these guys

(http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs42/i/2009/082/5/b/Garnett_VS_Duncan_by_kwangki.jpg)

This is hands down my favorite duo to come out of this draft.

The problem is, I just don't see one single difference maker at any of your other positions.

This 'difference maker' is going to be what drives me insane because I just don't think it's necessary. There's a specific skillset required to play around two elite post players, and you don't need a difference maker on the wing to get the most out of that player offensively. Think about Rudy Gay on the Grizzlies. Or think about how great of a team, despite not winning a championship, the Sacramento Kings were without a Rudy Gay type.

I've two elite 7 foot post players who are skilled passers, and are premier mid range scorers. You find the mistmatch in the front court and you pound away at it. If it doesn't work you kick out and swing the ball to the other side hoping to find either a 3 point shot along the way or to put it in the post on the other side.

I just see many chemistry issues. Duncan and Garnett want nothing to do with each other, and probably will refuse to play together. Sorry for you, but it just can not work ;D A team breakup in the first season is imminent. Rivals don't simply join up.

That's just naive.  You don't think Duncan would have been thrilled if the Spurs picked up KG at the deadline?  Come on.

I do know they strongly dislike one another, despite having respect. I can't picture them being good friends. Apart from their stats and careers, they're polar opposites!

They dislike each other because they challenge each other on the court and have played against each other a ton.  If they could suit up on the same team, they'd get over it.  Trust me.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Lucky17 on February 22, 2013, 05:45:38 PM
I like how we match up vs. the Thunder. Haven't looked at the LA teams yet.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: CelticConcourse on February 22, 2013, 05:46:49 PM
I got these guys

(http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs42/i/2009/082/5/b/Garnett_VS_Duncan_by_kwangki.jpg)

This is hands down my favorite duo to come out of this draft.

The problem is, I just don't see one single difference maker at any of your other positions.

This 'difference maker' is going to be what drives me insane because I just don't think it's necessary. There's a specific skillset required to play around two elite post players, and you don't need a difference maker on the wing to get the most out of that player offensively. Think about Rudy Gay on the Grizzlies. Or think about how great of a team, despite not winning a championship, the Sacramento Kings were without a Rudy Gay type.

I've two elite 7 foot post players who are skilled passers, and are premier mid range scorers. You find the mistmatch in the front court and you pound away at it. If it doesn't work you kick out and swing the ball to the other side hoping to find either a 3 point shot along the way or to put it in the post on the other side.

I just see many chemistry issues. Duncan and Garnett want nothing to do with each other, and probably will refuse to play together. Sorry for you, but it just can not work ;D A team breakup in the first season is imminent. Rivals don't simply join up.

That's just naive.  You don't think Duncan would have been thrilled if the Spurs picked up KG at the deadline?  Come on.

I do know they strongly dislike one another, despite having respect. I can't picture them being good friends. Apart from their stats and careers, they're polar opposites!

They dislike each other because they challenge each other on the court and have played against each other a ton.  If they could suit up on the same team, they'd get over it.  Trust me.

Who knows? Nobody, ever. Oh well ;D
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: BleedGreen1989 on February 22, 2013, 05:47:29 PM
Blazers after 5th round:

PG: Damian Lillard
SG: Thabo Sefolosha
SF: Tayshaun Prince
PF: David West
C:  LaMarcus Aldridge

PG/SG: Ramon Sessions
SG/SF: Kyle Singler
PF/C:  Nick Collison
C: Jonas Valanciunas

4 picks remaining, plenty of payroll space.

I really like your team in general. I think you could use a more talented wing player and I would prefer to play lamarcus at the PF spot. However that being said, West is a very tough banger who would work well with the finesse game of lamarcus
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: BleedGreen1989 on February 22, 2013, 05:50:23 PM
I would prefer an upgrade at my PF spot but the most recent #5 pick isn't too shabby.



(Yes I just critiqued my own team)
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: nickagneta on February 22, 2013, 05:52:33 PM
Honestly, don't see any team beating the Lake show out West. Maybe a team in the East that could give the Lakers a run, but the Lakers are the West's best.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Atzar on February 22, 2013, 05:55:27 PM
I would prefer an upgrade at my PF spot but the most recent #5 pick isn't too shabby.



(Yes I just critiqued my own team)

A lot of nice complementary pieces with no real building block.  OJ Mayo looks like your go-to offensive guy, but I don't think he's good enough to make you a contender at any point.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Lucky17 on February 22, 2013, 05:56:08 PM
Honestly, don't see any team beating the Lake show out West. Maybe a team in the East that could give the Lakers a run, but the Lakers are the West's best.

Everything rides on Deron's ankles and Dwight's shoulder/back. Given 100% health, your team is tough, although I concede nothing.

Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: BleedGreen1989 on February 22, 2013, 05:58:47 PM
I would prefer an upgrade at my PF spot but the most recent #5 pick isn't too shabby.



(Yes I just critiqued my own team)

A lot of nice complementary pieces with no real building block.  OJ Mayo looks like your go-to offensive guy, but I don't think he's good enough to make you a contender at any point.

Yea my intention was to do a rebuild. In the real NBA I believe a lot of my young talent could be packaged and land a star. Plus loads of cap space but can't hurt although it doesn't really help in the Pick2 draft. Will likely choose to build a contender next time
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Atzar on February 22, 2013, 06:04:38 PM
Honestly, don't see any team beating the Lake show out West. Maybe a team in the East that could give the Lakers a run, but the Lakers are the West's best.

Tons of pressure on Dwight to be the anchor on both sides of the ball.  Deron hasn't been the same since Sloan left Utah, and your 2-4 are average starters at best.

If Deron ever returns to superstar form, look out.  If he doesn't, you're probably a dark horse kinda team.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: StartOrien on February 22, 2013, 06:09:21 PM
Honestly, don't see any team beating the Lake show out West. Maybe a team in the East that could give the Lakers a run, but the Lakers are the West's best.

I think youre probably overrating your team.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: fairweatherfan on February 22, 2013, 06:12:00 PM
So as long as I'm here, how do you guys see the respective conferences shaking out?  This is off the top of my head so I may be omitting somebody, but I see the conference final caliber-teams like this (in no particular order):

East:
KNICKS
Nets
Heat

West:
Thunder
Lakers
Clippers

Gun to my head, I say conference finalists are Knicks vs Nets in the East, and Thunder vs Clippers in the West.  Lakers and Heat are right there with them, though.

The hawks think your a hater

I'm just not sold on Love and Granger; Granger for the injury recovery, and Love for the injuries and because he's never been able to show he can contribute effectively to a winning team.  Calderon's defense at PG is also a weak spot.

If both Granger and Love can come back healthy you could have a very good squad next year, but I don't see it right now.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: KCattheStripe on February 22, 2013, 06:12:21 PM
Honestly, don't see any team beating the Lake show out West. Maybe a team in the East that could give the Lakers a run, but the Lakers are the West's best.

I think youre probably overrating your team.


Dominant 2k team, not sure I buy them in the actual league.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: ronaldo943 on February 22, 2013, 06:12:48 PM
Russell Westbrook
Kevin Martin
Shawn Marion
Reggie Evans
J.J Hickson

Bench
Jamal Crawford
Al Farouq Aminu
Javale McGee

A really messed up team but the best rebounding team in the league ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*

I like your backcourt, hate your front court

Well im glad you actually like something of my team as i hate it overall:)
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: KGs Knee on February 22, 2013, 06:13:52 PM
My question about the Lakers is, without Kobe/Phil around, who keeps Metta World War in check?

Seriously, he could very easily implode the whole team.  It's possible he and Dwight have a fight to the death in practice.

I'll reserve my ultimate judgment until I see who Nick picks as coach for the Lakers.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: ronaldo943 on February 22, 2013, 06:15:22 PM
My question about the Lakers is, without Kobe/Phil around, who keeps Metta World War in check?

Seriously, he could very easily implode the whole team.  It's possible he and Dwight have a fight to the death in practice.

I'll reserve my ultimate judgment until I see who Nick picks as coach for the Lakers.

Nah i think him and Dwight will team up to beat up the rest of the team
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: StartOrien on February 22, 2013, 06:26:18 PM
Honestly, don't see any team beating the Lake show out West. Maybe a team in the East that could give the Lakers a run, but the Lakers are the West's best.

I think youre probably overrating your team.

Sorry. Was distracted didn't mean to just say this to be a jerk.

It's a good team. But I'm not blown away by it.

Like I said before, personally, I thought Deron was borderline undraftable. Not sure what his issue is, and I'm sure if you were to ask him he'd give you plenty, but he's looked average.

Dwight's a great player, but I think he's a year away from showing what we had against the Celtics on a consistent basis. Just soooo banged up, he can't deliver w/ that level of physicality.

And then the rest of the team is nice. Reddick's a nice player. Kirilenko's a nice player. Artest is an average small forward. Just don't see this as a team that's head and shoulders above everybody. I've got OKC ahead of you, and I'm certain they'd beat you in a series (if rosters were frozen today)
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: StartOrien on February 22, 2013, 06:32:24 PM
Also, Dallas is right up there with the Lakers too. No doubt about that.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Lucky17 on February 22, 2013, 06:36:28 PM
Also, Dallas is right up there with the Lakers too. No doubt about that.

Need to see what Dallas does with its picks. Only two bigs on that roster, and one averages 25 minutes a night.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: StartOrien on February 22, 2013, 06:38:56 PM
Also, Dallas is right up there with the Lakers too. No doubt about that.

Need to see what Dallas does with its picks. Only two bigs on that roster, and one averages 25 minutes a night.

Very true. Seems to be a decent amount of talent left w/ bigs, not sure of their cap situation though
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: CelticConcourse on February 22, 2013, 07:01:36 PM
Memphis Grizzlies appear to be the dark horse candidate to come out of the West. Very solid roster up to now. ;D

Sources saying Grizzlies are considering one particular overseas player who was a former great.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: BigAlTheFuture on February 22, 2013, 07:07:58 PM
Also, Dallas is right up there with the Lakers too. No doubt about that.

Need to see what Dallas does with its picks. Only two bigs on that roster, and one averages 25 minutes a night.

Very true. Seems to be a decent amount of talent left w/ bigs, not sure of their cap situation though

About 10 million left. Think I should be okay.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: ronaldo943 on February 22, 2013, 07:30:49 PM
Brandon Jennings
Kevin Martin
Shawn Marion
J.J. Hickson
Nikola Pekovic

Bench:
Jamal Crawford, Al Farouq Aminu, Reggie Evans
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Atzar on February 22, 2013, 07:56:59 PM
Brandon Jennings
Kevin Martin
Shawn Marion
J.J. Hickson
Nikola Pekovic

Bench:
Jamal Crawford, Al Farouq Aminu, Reggie Evans

Pretty average team. 

I don't like Jennings as a #1 option.  Not crazy about the spacing here.  Marion is adequate at best as a shooter, and both Hickson and Pekovic want to play around the rim.  Not a very good fit for Jennings, who already takes more jumpers than he should.  Overall, an offense that will take a lot of shots that make you want to pull your hair out, but the combo of Marion, Evans, Hickson and Pekovic may pull in enough offensive rebounds to let you live with it.  You'll be elite on the glass. 

On defense, not so much.  Marion is a good defender and Jennings can be when he tries (which isn't often enough).  Aminu is a nice defender but makes little impact on offense.  The rest of your team is limited.  Kevin Martin is a poor defender, Hickson is a poor defender, Evans is poor.  Pekovic is quite good against post threats, but won't block shots for you and is slow when asked to move his feet on the perimeter. 

Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: ronaldo943 on February 22, 2013, 07:58:35 PM
Brandon Jennings
Kevin Martin
Shawn Marion
J.J. Hickson
Nikola Pekovic

Bench:
Jamal Crawford, Al Farouq Aminu, Reggie Evans

Pretty average team. 

I don't like Jennings as a #1 option.  Not crazy about the spacing here.  Marion is adequate at best as a shooter, and both Hickson and Pekovic want to play around the rim.  Not a very good fit for Jennings, who already takes more jumpers than he should.  Overall, an offense that will take a lot of shots that make you want to pull your hair out, but the combo of Marion, Evans, Hickson and Pekovic may pull in enough offensive rebounds to let you live with it.  You'll be elite on the glass. 

On defense, not so much.  Marion is a good defender and Jennings can be when he tries (which isn't often enough).  Aminu is a nice defender but makes little impact on offense.  The rest of your team is limited.  Kevin Martin is a poor defender, Hickson is a poor defender, Evans is poor.  Pekovic is quite good against post threats, but won't block shots for you and is slow when asked to move his feet on the perimeter.

Great analysis. TP. I dont mind being an average team though :D
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: AB_Celtic on February 22, 2013, 08:06:07 PM
The new-look Bucks!!!

PG: R.Westbrook
SG: W.Matthews
SF: T.Ariza/M.Webster
PF: D.Lee
C: J.McGee/I.Mahinmi

A couple of things I'm going to try to do:
- Flip McGee and considerations for a sturdy defensive center.
- Draft a serviceable backup ball handler at the 1 or 2
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: KGs Knee on February 22, 2013, 08:24:57 PM
The new-look Bucks!!!

PG: R.Westbrook
SG: W.Matthews
SF: T.Ariza/M.Webster
PF: D.Lee
C: J.McGee/I.Mahinmi

A couple of things I'm going to try to do:
- Flip McGee and considerations for a sturdy defensive center.
- Draft a serviceable backup ball handler at the 1 or 2

Gotta say, this is the one squad this draft that has improved by qutie a bit from where it originally started,  almost entirely through trades.

Good job AB
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Atzar on February 22, 2013, 08:26:50 PM
The new-look Bucks!!!

PG: R.Westbrook
SG: W.Matthews
SF: T.Ariza/M.Webster
PF: D.Lee
C: J.McGee/I.Mahinmi

A couple of things I'm going to try to do:
- Flip McGee and considerations for a sturdy defensive center.
- Draft a serviceable backup ball handler at the 1 or 2

Lee is a rock solid offensive player.  Matthews is nice, but maybe being an effective third option is a bit too much to ask of him.  Westbrook is shot-happy but pretty effective despite this.  Ariza, on the other hand, is a liability on offense, and nobody ever knows what McGee will do.

Potentially some nice perimeter defense, but weak in the paint (you already know this).  Ariza and Matthews are both good defenders, as is Westbrook when he wants to be.  Lee is good in the post but lacks length, doesn't block shots and struggles to move his feet on the perimeter.  Again, nobody ever knows what McGee will do.

Bench worries me.  Mahinmi and Webster are decent, but neither are good enough to anchor a second unit, and pickings are slim at this point in the draft. 

I don't see you as a contender unless you pull off a miracle by landing an above average center while simultaneously building a solid bench.  I see it as a 5-8 seed playoff team currently.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Atzar on February 22, 2013, 08:28:01 PM
Tony Parker
Danny Green 
Joe Johnson / Carlos Delfino
Tristan Thompson / Earl Clark
Pau Gasol / Bismack Biyombo

Opinions?  Obviously the next target is a guard.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: ronaldo943 on February 22, 2013, 08:29:20 PM
Tony Parker
Danny Green 
Joe Johnson / Carlos Delfino
Tristan Thompson / Earl Clark
Pau Gasol / Bismack Biyombo

Opinions?  Obviously the next target is a guard.

Nice team lol im sorry i cant do professional analysis like you
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: AB_Celtic on February 22, 2013, 08:32:52 PM
Matthews is nice, but maybe being an effective third option is a bit too much to ask of him.

I would say Matthews is currently the third offensive option behind Lillard and Aldridge in Portland.

Ariza, on the other hand, is a liability on offense, and nobody ever knows what McGee will do.

Agreed about Ariza, but he's a defensive rock. He and Webster can be interchanged depending on the situation... offense vs. defense. And yes agreed about McGee. Hoping to get a tough-as-nails coach tomorrow to keep him in line if nobody needs him.

Bench worries me.  Mahinmi and Webster are decent, but neither are good enough to anchor a second unit, and pickings are slim at this point in the draft.

I'm happy with Mahinmi and Webster, but I agree I need more of a floor general off the bench, and I intend to get one.

I don't see you as a contender unless you pull off a miracle by landing an above average center while simultaneously building a solid bench.

I'm going to go for a defense-first center, even if his value is a little less than that of McGee. I think that will round out the starters nicely.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: AB_Celtic on February 22, 2013, 08:37:05 PM
Tony Parker
Danny Green 
Joe Johnson / Carlos Delfino
Tristan Thompson / Earl Clark
Pau Gasol / Bismack Biyombo

Opinions?  Obviously the next target is a guard.

I'm very impressed with the Monta-Johnson trade. Even though you added a bunch of salary, you got rid of a pretty polarizing player. And you got more out of it than I did ;)

I like your balance of vets and youth in the starting lineup. Very hard to prepare for. However I question Thompson's defensive abilities.

I think your more specific next target should be a sharpshooting guard; someone who shoots around 40% from three.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: ronaldo943 on February 22, 2013, 08:38:56 PM
Tony Parker
Danny Green 
Joe Johnson / Carlos Delfino
Tristan Thompson / Earl Clark
Pau Gasol / Bismack Biyombo

Opinions?  Obviously the next target is a guard.

I'm very impressed with the Monta-Johnson trade. Even though you added a bunch of salary, you got rid of a pretty polarizing player. And you got more out of it than I did ;)

I like your balance of vets and youth in the starting lineup. Very hard to prepare for. However I question Thompson's defensive abilities.

I think your more specific next target should be a sharpshooting guard; someone who shoots around 40% from three.

Green shoots 42% i think
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: KGs Knee on February 22, 2013, 08:42:07 PM
Tony Parker
Danny Green 
Joe Johnson / Carlos Delfino
Tristan Thompson / Earl Clark
Pau Gasol / Bismack Biyombo

Opinions?  Obviously the next target is a guard.

I'm very impressed with the Monta-Johnson trade. Even though you added a bunch of salary, you got rid of a pretty polarizing player. And you got more out of it than I did ;)

The reason for this is simple.  Johnson was aquired for Monta in a salary dump.  The guy who had Jonhson orginally was over his cap and was foced to deal someone.  Hard to get "full" value under those circumstances.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Atzar on February 22, 2013, 08:46:08 PM
Matthews is nice, but maybe being an effective third option is a bit too much to ask of him.

I would say Matthews is currently the third offensive option behind Lillard and Aldridge in Portland.

Nicolas Batum.  Also, Portland is 25-29 and on the outside looking in at the playoffs.  You're hoping to contend, so different standards apply.

Tony Parker
Danny Green 
Joe Johnson / Carlos Delfino
Tristan Thompson / Earl Clark
Pau Gasol / Bismack Biyombo

Opinions?  Obviously the next target is a guard.

I'm very impressed with the Monta-Johnson trade. Even though you added a bunch of salary, you got rid of a pretty polarizing player. And you got more out of it than I did ;)

I like your balance of vets and youth in the starting lineup. Very hard to prepare for. However I question Thompson's defensive abilities.

I think your more specific next target should be a sharpshooting guard; someone who shoots around 40% from three.

A bit difficult to evaluate Thompson's defense, because the Cavs in general are lost on that end of the court.  He does have the physical tools to be very good, with a lot of versatility. 

I agree with what you think I should target next.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Lucky17 on February 22, 2013, 09:06:20 PM
The new-look Bucks!!!

PG: R.Westbrook
SG: W.Matthews
SF: T.Ariza/M.Webster
PF: D.Lee
C: J.McGee/I.Mahinmi

A couple of things I'm going to try to do:
- Flip McGee and considerations for a sturdy defensive center.
- Draft a serviceable backup ball handler at the 1 or 2

Gotta say, this is the one squad this draft that has improved by qutie a bit from where it originally started,  almost entirely through trades.

Good job AB

Hear, hear.

I agree with your assessments. A steady but unspectacular hand at C would help solidify the frontcourt rotation. A guy who's happy playing D and getting rebounds.

I think Wes is fine as a 3rd option on offense. Good D on the wings. I'm not Webster's biggest fan.

If you have any payroll space, perhaps you could entice a cash-strapped team into taking on a package of Webster and McGee for a C you're happier with.

Nice work.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: indeedproceed on February 23, 2013, 12:06:32 AM
30 pts, 9 asts, 6 boards for Isaiah Thomas, 20 pts, 12 boards for Ryan Anderson, efficient production out of Stephenson and Smith.

It's jus science. Nothin' but science.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: KGs Knee on February 23, 2013, 12:26:02 AM
Gloat all you want IP, just realize all you're doing is giving CC more reason to gloat over Jeff Green.

Can't wait to hear about that.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: indeedproceed on February 23, 2013, 12:35:54 AM
Gloat all you want IP, just realize all you're doing is giving CC more reason to gloat over Jeff Green.

Can't wait to hear about that.

He's gonna have a point. Green played like a champ tonight. Can't throw shade on that.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: celticpride07 on February 23, 2013, 06:28:01 AM
SUNS Pick 2: 6.21 7.1 8.1 9.1 10.1
PG: Goran Dragic(7.5)
SG: Dwyane Wade(17.1) Dion Waiters(3.72)
SF: Kawhi Leonard(1.88)
PF: Gerald Wallace(9.88) John Hensen(1.8)
C: Marcin Gortat(7.25)
Cap used: 49.13 Total: 70.3!

Thoughts?

Better than the real suns fo show!
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on February 23, 2013, 08:03:57 AM
SUNS Pick 2: 6.21 7.1 8.1 9.1 10.1
PG: Goran Dragic(7.5)
SG: Dwyane Wade(17.1) Dion Waiters(3.72)
SF: Kawhi Leonard(1.88)
PF: Gerald Wallace(9.88) John Hensen(1.8)
C: Marcin Gortat(7.25)
Cap used: 49.13 Total: 70.3!

Thoughts?

Better than the real suns fo show!

John Henson making $1 and cool sunglasses? That's a deal.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: GreenFaith1819 on February 23, 2013, 08:09:28 AM
I miss this game this year...some REALLY nice teams are coming together so far.

The salary addition is a nice twist to the game.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: TheTruthFot18 on February 23, 2013, 09:40:11 AM
I got these guys

(http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs42/i/2009/082/5/b/Garnett_VS_Duncan_by_kwangki.jpg)

This is hands down my favorite duo to come out of this draft.

The problem is, I just don't see one single difference maker at any of your other positions.

Agreed. Just a dirty duo for bigs, possibly best of all teams. But you are right, after that a HUGE drop off. Still like them though
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: TheTruthFot18 on February 23, 2013, 09:40:55 AM
Memphis Grizzlies

Coach: Gregg Popovich

PG: Greivis Vásquez ($1.19 million)
SG: Klay Thompson ($2.22 million)
SF: Jeff Green ($8.38 million)
PF: Zach Randolph ($16.50 million)
C: Omer Asik ($8.37 million)

PG: Andre Miller ($5.00 million)
____________________
SF: Caron Butler ($8.00 million)
____________________
____________________

$20,626,954 in cap space for:
7.15, 8.11, 8.15, 9.15, 9.19, 11.15

Why are guards so cheap? >_> I'd appreciate if someone gave me some advice :D TPs!

Who takes the last shot?  :-\
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: TheTruthFot18 on February 23, 2013, 09:44:09 AM
I like how we match up vs. the Thunder. Haven't looked at the LA teams yet.

OKC will walk all over you at every position, except maybe center. Maybe

Time to see how far LA brings a team
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: TheTruthFot18 on February 23, 2013, 09:45:45 AM
Honestly, don't see any team beating the Lake show out West. Maybe a team in the East that could give the Lakers a run, but the Lakers are the West's best.

(http://images.sodahead.com/profiles/0/0/3/4/6/5/8/2/1/Lol-94249156205.jpeg)
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: TheTruthFot18 on February 23, 2013, 09:47:29 AM
So as long as I'm here, how do you guys see the respective conferences shaking out?  This is off the top of my head so I may be omitting somebody, but I see the conference final caliber-teams like this (in no particular order):

East:
KNICKS
Nets
Heat

West:
Thunder
Lakers
Clippers

Gun to my head, I say conference finalists are Knicks vs Nets in the East, and Thunder vs Clippers in the West.  Lakers and Heat are right there with them, though.

The hawks think your a hater

I'm just not sold on Love and Granger; Granger for the injury recovery, and Love for the injuries and because he's never been able to show he can contribute effectively to a winning team.  Calderon's defense at PG is also a weak spot.

If both Granger and Love can come back healthy you could have a very good squad next year, but I don't see it right now.

Im glad someone else pointed this out. I kept seeing it in his sig but never commented.

Strong on paper but not so much on the court
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: TheTruthFot18 on February 23, 2013, 09:52:00 AM
The new-look Bucks!!!

PG: R.Westbrook
SG: W.Matthews
SF: T.Ariza/M.Webster
PF: D.Lee
C: J.McGee/I.Mahinmi

A couple of things I'm going to try to do:
- Flip McGee and considerations for a sturdy defensive center.
- Draft a serviceable backup ball handler at the 1 or 2

Who do think you can get for McGee for better or equal value? (unless you move other pieces). Still a couple PG's for bench roles still available, that'd what I'd look for too with your next pick
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: TheTruthFot18 on February 23, 2013, 10:00:47 AM
Tony Parker
Danny Green 
Joe Johnson / Carlos Delfino
Tristan Thompson / Earl Clark
Pau Gasol / Bismack Biyombo

Opinions?  Obviously the next target is a guard.

Nice team lol im sorry i cant do professional analysis like you

Love Parker, have him in fantasy this year (beast mode). I have Pau too but a fresh start might fit him better here as the 2nd 3rd option.

Why I don't like your team? Joe Johnson. You traded Monta for him (I think) but barely an upgrade. Good luck with iso Joe
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Evantime34 on February 23, 2013, 10:35:36 AM
1. Chris Paul
2. Iman Shumpert, Marcus Thornton
3. Corey Brewer, Kyle Korver
4. Blake Griffin
5. Larry Sanders

What do you think of my team?
What do you think I should target with future picks?
Of my four wing players who do you think should start?
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: wdleehi on February 23, 2013, 10:37:34 AM
1. Chris Paul
2. Iman Shumpert, Marcus Thornton
3. Corey Brewer, Kyle Korver
4. Blake Griffin
5. Larry Sanders

What do you think of my team?
What do you think I should target with future picks?
Of my four wing players who do you think should start?


Start Korver and spread the floor.  (the real Clippers issue)
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: TheTruthFot18 on February 23, 2013, 10:37:40 AM
1. Chris Paul
2. Iman Shumpert, Marcus Thornton
3. Corey Brewer, Kyle Korver
4. Blake Griffin
5. Larry Sanders

What do you think of my team?
What do you think I should target with future picks?
Of my four wing players who do you think should start?

Not sold on the SF and C spots. I do like the back court group a lot.

Target a big

Your starters are fine. Korver and Thorton are nice snipers off the bench
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Who on February 23, 2013, 10:43:32 AM
1. Chris Paul
2. Iman Shumpert, Marcus Thornton
3. Corey Brewer, Kyle Korver
4. Blake Griffin
5. Larry Sanders

What do you think of my team?
What do you think I should target with future picks?
Of my four wing players who do you think should start?

Backup point guard and backup center would be my main priorities.

I think it is important to have a good backup PG for C.Paul. Someone who can create. Someone who can create shots for the likes of Korver, Shumpert and C.Brewer. And you want somebody who can play enough minutes to limit the wear and tear on CP3.

Backup center would be my next priority. Larry Sanders is a lightweight post defender. He gets pushed around too easily. Someone who can counteract that would be ideal. Someone with legitimate bulk. A physical player.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Rondo2287 on February 23, 2013, 10:44:19 AM
So as long as I'm here, how do you guys see the respective conferences shaking out?  This is off the top of my head so I may be omitting somebody, but I see the conference final caliber-teams like this (in no particular order):

East:
KNICKS
Nets
Heat

West:
Thunder
Lakers
Clippers

Gun to my head, I say conference finalists are Knicks vs Nets in the East, and Thunder vs Clippers in the West.  Lakers and Heat are right there with them, though.

The hawks think your a hater

I'm just not sold on Love and Granger; Granger for the injury recovery, and Love for the injuries and because he's never been able to show he can contribute effectively to a winning team.  Calderon's defense at PG is also a weak spot.

If both Granger and Love can come back healthy you could have a very good squad next year, but I don't see it right now.

Im glad someone else pointed this out. I kept seeing it in his sig but never commented.

Strong on paper but not so much on the court

I can understand why you might say that if you are unfamiliar with granger, love, horford, and lopez
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Who on February 23, 2013, 10:51:40 AM
1. Chris Paul
2. Iman Shumpert, Marcus Thornton
3. Corey Brewer, Kyle Korver
4. Blake Griffin
5. Larry Sanders

What do you think of my team?
What do you think I should target with future picks?
Of my four wing players who do you think should start?

Either (1) Shumpert and Korver, or, (2) Thornton and C.Brewer.

I think either combination works well. A shooter and a defender. I am not sure which one works better. But I would avoid two non-shooters or two non-defenders. One shooter and one defender.

Maybe Shumpert and Korver. They call their own number less often. Give more room for CP3 and B.Griffin to do their own thing. Give your bench a quality scorer in M.Thornton. Yeah, that seems right to me.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Evantime34 on February 23, 2013, 10:52:56 AM
So as long as I'm here, how do you guys see the respective conferences shaking out?  This is off the top of my head so I may be omitting somebody, but I see the conference final caliber-teams like this (in no particular order):

East:
KNICKS
Nets
Heat

West:
Thunder
Lakers
Clippers

Gun to my head, I say conference finalists are Knicks vs Nets in the East, and Thunder vs Clippers in the West.  Lakers and Heat are right there with them, though.

The hawks think your a hater

I'm just not sold on Love and Granger; Granger for the injury recovery, and Love for the injuries and because he's never been able to show he can contribute effectively to a winning team.  Calderon's defense at PG is also a weak spot.

If both Granger and Love can come back healthy you could have a very good squad next year, but I don't see it right now.

Im glad someone else pointed this out. I kept seeing it in his sig but never commented.

Strong on paper but not so much on the court

I can understand why you might say that if you are unfamiliar with granger, love, horford, and lopez
Maybe in the future you are a title contender, but I can't see how you compete this year without a healthy Kevin Love.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Evantime34 on February 23, 2013, 10:54:45 AM
1. Chris Paul
2. Iman Shumpert, Marcus Thornton
3. Corey Brewer, Kyle Korver
4. Blake Griffin
5. Larry Sanders

What do you think of my team?
What do you think I should target with future picks?
Of my four wing players who do you think should start?

Either (1) Shumpert and Korver, or, (2) Thornton and C.Brewer.

I think either combination works well. A shooter and a defender. I am not sure which one works better. But I would avoid two non-shooters or two non-defenders. One shooter and one defender.

Maybe Shumpert and Korver. They call their own number less often. Give more room for CP3 and B.Griffin to do their own thing. Give your bench a quality scorer in M.Thornton. Yeah, that seems right to me.
Brewer can play some two as well, so I could also start Brewer and Korver. I think I will go with Shumpert and Korver though.

Any suggestions for future picks? Or trades I should look into?
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Rondo2287 on February 23, 2013, 10:56:59 AM
So as long as I'm here, how do you guys see the respective conferences shaking out?  This is off the top of my head so I may be omitting somebody, but I see the conference final caliber-teams like this (in no particular order):

East:
KNICKS
Nets
Heat

West:
Thunder
Lakers
Clippers

Gun to my head, I say conference finalists are Knicks vs Nets in the East, and Thunder vs Clippers in the West.  Lakers and Heat are right there with them, though.

The hawks think your a hater

I'm just not sold on Love and Granger; Granger for the injury recovery, and Love for the injuries and because he's never been able to show he can contribute effectively to a winning team.  Calderon's defense at PG is also a weak spot.

If both Granger and Love can come back healthy you could have a very good squad next year, but I don't see it right now.

Im glad someone else pointed this out. I kept seeing it in his sig but never commented.

Strong on paper but not so much on the court

I can understand why you might say that if you are unfamiliar with granger, love, horford, and lopez
Maybe in the future you are a title contender, but I can't see how you compete this year without a healthy Kevin Love.

Of course, though when love comes back, I'm not sure anybody could beat my team if I could manage to snag the 8 seed
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Evantime34 on February 23, 2013, 10:59:44 AM
So as long as I'm here, how do you guys see the respective conferences shaking out?  This is off the top of my head so I may be omitting somebody, but I see the conference final caliber-teams like this (in no particular order):

East:
KNICKS
Nets
Heat

West:
Thunder
Lakers
Clippers

Gun to my head, I say conference finalists are Knicks vs Nets in the East, and Thunder vs Clippers in the West.  Lakers and Heat are right there with them, though.

The hawks think your a hater

I'm just not sold on Love and Granger; Granger for the injury recovery, and Love for the injuries and because he's never been able to show he can contribute effectively to a winning team.  Calderon's defense at PG is also a weak spot.

If both Granger and Love can come back healthy you could have a very good squad next year, but I don't see it right now.

Im glad someone else pointed this out. I kept seeing it in his sig but never commented.

Strong on paper but not so much on the court

I can understand why you might say that if you are unfamiliar with granger, love, horford, and lopez
Maybe in the future you are a title contender, but I can't see how you compete this year without a healthy Kevin Love.

Of course, though when love comes back, I'm not sure anybody could beat my team if I could manage to snag the 8 seed
Is he coming back this year?
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: BleedGreen1989 on February 23, 2013, 11:00:27 AM
So as long as I'm here, how do you guys see the respective conferences shaking out?  This is off the top of my head so I may be omitting somebody, but I see the conference final caliber-teams like this (in no particular order):

East:
KNICKS
Nets
Heat

West:
Thunder
Lakers
Clippers

Gun to my head, I say conference finalists are Knicks vs Nets in the East, and Thunder vs Clippers in the West.  Lakers and Heat are right there with them, though.

The hawks think your a hater

I'm just not sold on Love and Granger; Granger for the injury recovery, and Love for the injuries and because he's never been able to show he can contribute effectively to a winning team.  Calderon's defense at PG is also a weak spot.

If both Granger and Love can come back healthy you could have a very good squad next year, but I don't see it right now.

Im glad someone else pointed this out. I kept seeing it in his sig but never commented.

Strong on paper but not so much on the court

I can understand why you might say that if you are unfamiliar with granger, love, horford, and lopez
Maybe in the future you are a title contender, but I can't see how you compete this year without a healthy Kevin Love.

Of course, though when love comes back, I'm not sure anybody could beat my team if I could manage to snag the 8 seed

Really need to snag a shooter
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Rondo2287 on February 23, 2013, 11:01:05 AM
So as long as I'm here, how do you guys see the respective conferences shaking out?  This is off the top of my head so I may be omitting somebody, but I see the conference final caliber-teams like this (in no particular order):

East:
KNICKS
Nets
Heat

West:
Thunder
Lakers
Clippers

Gun to my head, I say conference finalists are Knicks vs Nets in the East, and Thunder vs Clippers in the West.  Lakers and Heat are right there with them, though.

The hawks think your a hater

I'm just not sold on Love and Granger; Granger for the injury recovery, and Love for the injuries and because he's never been able to show he can contribute effectively to a winning team.  Calderon's defense at PG is also a weak spot.

If both Granger and Love can come back healthy you could have a very good squad next year, but I don't see it right now.

Im glad someone else pointed this out. I kept seeing it in his sig but never commented.

Strong on paper but not so much on the court

I can understand why you might say that if you are unfamiliar with granger, love, horford, and lopez
Maybe in the future you are a title contender, but I can't see how you compete this year without a healthy Kevin Love.

Of course, though when love comes back, I'm not sure anybody could beat my team if I could manage to snag the 8 seed
Is he coming back this year?

Ya he is already practicing again, just a broken hand
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Rondo2287 on February 23, 2013, 11:01:54 AM
So as long as I'm here, how do you guys see the respective conferences shaking out?  This is off the top of my head so I may be omitting somebody, but I see the conference final caliber-teams like this (in no particular order):

East:
KNICKS
Nets
Heat

West:
Thunder
Lakers
Clippers

Gun to my head, I say conference finalists are Knicks vs Nets in the East, and Thunder vs Clippers in the West.  Lakers and Heat are right there with them, though.

The hawks think your a hater

I'm just not sold on Love and Granger; Granger for the injury recovery, and Love for the injuries and because he's never been able to show he can contribute effectively to a winning team.  Calderon's defense at PG is also a weak spot.

If both Granger and Love can come back healthy you could have a very good squad next year, but I don't see it right now.

Im glad someone else pointed this out. I kept seeing it in his sig but never commented.

Strong on paper but not so much on the court

I can understand why you might say that if you are unfamiliar with granger, love, horford, and lopez
Maybe in the future you are a title contender, but I can't see how you compete this year without a healthy Kevin Love.

Of course, though when love comes back, I'm not sure anybody could beat my team if I could manage to snag the 8 seed

Really need to snag a shooter

You think so?   Horford, love, and Calderon are all very good shooters for their positions. 

For what it's worth, in loves last two seasons he shot 41% and 37% from three on at least 3 attempts per game
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Who on February 23, 2013, 11:06:34 AM
So as long as I'm here, how do you guys see the respective conferences shaking out?  This is off the top of my head so I may be omitting somebody, but I see the conference final caliber-teams like this (in no particular order):

East:
KNICKS
Nets
Heat

West:
Thunder
Lakers
Clippers

Gun to my head, I say conference finalists are Knicks vs Nets in the East, and Thunder vs Clippers in the West.  Lakers and Heat are right there with them, though.

The hawks think your a hater

I'm just not sold on Love and Granger; Granger for the injury recovery, and Love for the injuries and because he's never been able to show he can contribute effectively to a winning team.  Calderon's defense at PG is also a weak spot.

If both Granger and Love can come back healthy you could have a very good squad next year, but I don't see it right now.

Im glad someone else pointed this out. I kept seeing it in his sig but never commented.

Strong on paper but not so much on the court

I can understand why you might say that if you are unfamiliar with granger, love, horford, and lopez
Maybe in the future you are a title contender, but I can't see how you compete this year without a healthy Kevin Love.

Of course, though when love comes back, I'm not sure anybody could beat my team if I could manage to snag the 8 seed

Really need to snag a shooter

You think so?   Horford, love, and Calderon are all very good shooters for their positions. 

For what it's worth, in loves last two seasons he shot 41% and 37% from three on at least 3 attempts per game

Yeah, I think you have loads of jump-shooting.

I would be more concerned with getting a different type of PG behind Calderon. Preferably a dribble drive type player. Someone who will be more aggressive as an attacker rather than a facilitator. Someone who will get into the middle and kick it out to those great jump-shooting big men and Danny Granger. More dribble penetration.

I need the same thing on my team behind Jarrett Jack.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: BleedGreen1989 on February 23, 2013, 11:07:06 AM
So as long as I'm here, how do you guys see the respective conferences shaking out?  This is off the top of my head so I may be omitting somebody, but I see the conference final caliber-teams like this (in no particular order):

East:
KNICKS
Nets
Heat

West:
Thunder
Lakers
Clippers

Gun to my head, I say conference finalists are Knicks vs Nets in the East, and Thunder vs Clippers in the West.  Lakers and Heat are right there with them, though.

The hawks think your a hater

I'm just not sold on Love and Granger; Granger for the injury recovery, and Love for the injuries and because he's never been able to show he can contribute effectively to a winning team.  Calderon's defense at PG is also a weak spot.

If both Granger and Love can come back healthy you could have a very good squad next year, but I don't see it right now.

Im glad someone else pointed this out. I kept seeing it in his sig but never commented.

Strong on paper but not so much on the court

I can understand why you might say that if you are unfamiliar with granger, love, horford, and lopez
Maybe in the future you are a title contender, but I can't see how you compete this year without a healthy Kevin Love.

Of course, though when love comes back, I'm not sure anybody could beat my team if I could manage to snag the 8 seed

Really need to snag a shooter

You think so?   Horford, love, and Calderon are all very good shooters for their positions. 

For what it's worth, in loves last two seasons he shot 41% and 37% from three on at least 3 attempts per game

Yea actually never mind, I have no idea what I'm talking about lol. Looking at the numbers I had no idea Granger and Calderon were good shooters.

In that case, I think Who is right. An athletic point guard who can drive and kick would be perfect on that team.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Rondo2287 on February 23, 2013, 11:10:41 AM
So as long as I'm here, how do you guys see the respective conferences shaking out?  This is off the top of my head so I may be omitting somebody, but I see the conference final caliber-teams like this (in no particular order):

East:
KNICKS
Nets
Heat

West:
Thunder
Lakers
Clippers

Gun to my head, I say conference finalists are Knicks vs Nets in the East, and Thunder vs Clippers in the West.  Lakers and Heat are right there with them, though.

The hawks think your a hater

I'm just not sold on Love and Granger; Granger for the injury recovery, and Love for the injuries and because he's never been able to show he can contribute effectively to a winning team.  Calderon's defense at PG is also a weak spot.

If both Granger and Love can come back healthy you could have a very good squad next year, but I don't see it right now.

Im glad someone else pointed this out. I kept seeing it in his sig but never commented.

Strong on paper but not so much on the court

I can understand why you might say that if you are unfamiliar with granger, love, horford, and lopez
Maybe in the future you are a title contender, but I can't see how you compete this year without a healthy Kevin Love.

Of course, though when love comes back, I'm not sure anybody could beat my team if I could manage to snag the 8 seed

Really need to snag a shooter

You think so?   Horford, love, and Calderon are all very good shooters for their positions. 

For what it's worth, in loves last two seasons he shot 41% and 37% from three on at least 3 attempts per game

Yea I actually think a healthy Love is your best shooter. I would personally rather have Brewer off the bench as a defensive specialist

I like brewer as a starter being able to defend the oppositions best guard.  I don't honk I need any more scoring in the starting lineup so I thnk it works well.  But I do agree with who that with all my jump shooting a slashing pg that will attack the rim could be useful.  Love and horford will be able to draw big men out of the paint leaving the rim unprotected


In general I don't think there is a defensive front court in this league that can matchup up against the size and skill combination that horford and love have. 
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Who on February 23, 2013, 11:13:11 AM
1. Chris Paul
2. Iman Shumpert, Marcus Thornton
3. Corey Brewer, Kyle Korver
4. Blake Griffin
5. Larry Sanders

What do you think of my team?
What do you think I should target with future picks?
Of my four wing players who do you think should start?

Either (1) Shumpert and Korver, or, (2) Thornton and C.Brewer.

I think either combination works well. A shooter and a defender. I am not sure which one works better. But I would avoid two non-shooters or two non-defenders. One shooter and one defender.

Maybe Shumpert and Korver. They call their own number less often. Give more room for CP3 and B.Griffin to do their own thing. Give your bench a quality scorer in M.Thornton. Yeah, that seems right to me.
Brewer can play some two as well, so I could also start Brewer and Korver. I think I will go with Shumpert and Korver though.

Any suggestions for future picks? Or trades I should look into?

Yes, I wrote in a post just above. A backup PG for CP3 and a burly physical center behind Larry Sanders. Those would be my next two priorities in the draft.

http://forums.celticsblog.com/index.php?topic=62964.msg1417037#msg1417037

Corey Brewer would definitely work as a two guard too. I actually prefer him at the two than the three. Your backup wings would be quite small with M.Thornton (SG) and Shumpert (SF) though. I don't really like either of those players at the three. That would be my concern with starting C.Brewer and Korver starting together.

I think balance wise it would be marginally better the other way but there isn't much difference in it whichever way you decide to go.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Who on February 23, 2013, 11:19:45 AM
Why I don't like your team? Joe Johnson. You traded Monta for him (I think) but barely an upgrade. Good luck with iso Joe
I feel bad for Joe Johnson. His reputation has took such a beating these last few years.

Very close to pariah territory.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: BleedGreen1989 on February 23, 2013, 11:22:19 AM
Why I don't like your team? Joe Johnson. You traded Monta for him (I think) but barely an upgrade. Good luck with iso Joe
I feel bad for Joe Johnson. His reputation has took such a beating these last few years.

Very close to pariah territory.

I think it's his contract. If he was making 10-12mill there wouldn't be near as much hate
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Who on February 23, 2013, 11:27:23 AM
In general I don't think there is a defensive front court in this league that can matchup up against the size and skill combination that horford and love have.
Kevin Love + Al Horford = best big man duo in the league?

I think they probably are.

Duncan and Garnett in Boston look to be their main rival to my eyes. Maybe Kirilenko and D.Howard too. I am still a little shaken by Dwight's downturn in performance level this year though. I love AK-47 as a four. 

Honourable mention -- David West and LaMarcus Aldridge in Portland + Tyson Chandler and Paul Millsap in New York. A.Bynum and R.Anderson might be able to crash this group if A.Bynum can prove his health.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: indeedproceed on February 23, 2013, 11:51:44 AM
I just don't think Love can ever get healthy. Major injuries the last 2 years and minor ailments stopping him from ever having a truly healthy season. Reminds me of Andrew Bogut.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: StartOrien on February 23, 2013, 11:56:24 AM
I just don't think Love can ever get healthy. Major injuries the last 2 years and minor ailments stopping him from ever having a truly healthy season. Reminds me of Andrew Bogut.

Interesting. I've never thought of him as a Mr. Glass type despite the injuries, but you make a good point.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: StartOrien on February 23, 2013, 11:57:07 AM
I got these guys

(http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs42/i/2009/082/5/b/Garnett_VS_Duncan_by_kwangki.jpg)

This is hands down my favorite duo to come out of this draft.

The problem is, I just don't see one single difference maker at any of your other positions.

Agreed. Just a dirty duo for bigs, possibly best of all teams. But you are right, after that a HUGE drop off. Still like them though

Read a book!
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: BigAlTheFuture on February 23, 2013, 11:57:39 AM
PG: Ricky Rubio, Raymond Felton
SG: Alonzo Gee, DeMar DeRozan
SF: Paul Pierce
PF: Dirk Nowitzki
C: Deandre Jordan

Obviously I need to add some bigs on the bench, but I have a few guys that I think will be available when I pick. So far, I like my team. Think we're being underrated by all the other teams on here with big flashy names. Think my squad can hang around with any team in the league. We're pretty similar to the Mavs team that won he championship a few years ago.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Roy H. on February 23, 2013, 12:00:36 PM
I just don't think Love can ever get healthy. Major injuries the last 2 years and minor ailments stopping him from ever having a truly healthy season. Reminds me of Andrew Bogut Bynum.

Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Who on February 23, 2013, 12:01:54 PM
PG: Ricky Rubio, Raymond Felton
SG: Alonzo Gee, DeMar DeRozan
SF: Paul Pierce
PF: Dirk Nowitzki
C: Deandre Jordan

Obviously I need to add some bigs on the bench, but I have a few guys that I think will be available when I pick. So far, I like my team. Think we're being underrated by all the other teams on here with big flashy names. Think my squad can hang around with any team in the league. We're pretty similar to the Mavs team that won he championship a few years ago.

Why are you starting Alonzo Gee over DeRozan?
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: BigAlTheFuture on February 23, 2013, 12:03:06 PM
PG: Ricky Rubio, Raymond Felton
SG: Alonzo Gee, DeMar DeRozan
SF: Paul Pierce
PF: Dirk Nowitzki
C: Deandre Jordan

Obviously I need to add some bigs on the bench, but I have a few guys that I think will be available when I pick. So far, I like my team. Think we're being underrated by all the other teams on here with big flashy names. Think my squad can hang around with any team in the league. We're pretty similar to the Mavs team that won he championship a few years ago.

Why are you starting Alonzo Gee over DeRozan?

I like the idea of having Derozan as my sixth man. Think he will really give me a spark off the bench.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: indeedproceed on February 23, 2013, 12:05:48 PM
I just don't think Love can ever get healthy. Major injuries the last 2 years and minor ailments stopping him from ever having a truly healthy season. Reminds me of Andrew Bogut Bynum.

No, Bynum is going to get healthy, he's on my team. All the other question marks are beyond saving.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: BigAlTheFuture on February 23, 2013, 12:12:58 PM
Also think Gee would fit in better with the 1st unit. Him and Rubio will be the best defensive backcourt in the league and he will give us more spacing with his perimeter shooting.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: StartOrien on February 23, 2013, 12:15:32 PM
I just don't think Love can ever get healthy. Major injuries the last 2 years and minor ailments stopping him from ever having a truly healthy season. Reminds me of Andrew Bogut Bynum.

No, Bynum is going to get healthy, he's on my team. All the other question marks are beyond saving.

To be fair to Roy, IP, your 'word' with injured players is a kiss of death. Amare, Bogut, now Bynum. Leve our injured bigs alone!
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Who on February 23, 2013, 12:16:10 PM
PG: Ricky Rubio, Raymond Felton
SG: Alonzo Gee, DeMar DeRozan
SF: Paul Pierce
PF: Dirk Nowitzki
C: Deandre Jordan

Obviously I need to add some bigs on the bench, but I have a few guys that I think will be available when I pick. So far, I like my team. Think we're being underrated by all the other teams on here with big flashy names. Think my squad can hang around with any team in the league. We're pretty similar to the Mavs team that won he championship a few years ago.

Why are you starting Alonzo Gee over DeRozan?

I like the idea of having Derozan as my sixth man. Think he will really give me a spark off the bench.

I am not sure what to think of A.Gee as a starting two guard.

I think A.Gee is really good as a backup SF. I don't like him as a starting SF. I think his defense and rebounding gets exploited there and he is less effective as a scorer than against second string guys.

I am not sure I buy him as a starting SG. If he is skilled enough offensively or makes enough impact defensively to be worthwhile putting there ... over playing A.Gee at a position (backup SF) where he is quite effective. 

I wonder if you are over-thinking it a bit by putting DeRozan on the bench.

If your team is not best off playing your 5 best guys in the same unit as much as possible rather than trying to turn one of them into a sixth man. If you really need to have an impact scorer off the bench. Or if your team's balance offensively to open the game is really any better with only two scorers there. I am not sure I see the upside to it.

I think that would be a very dominant five man unit with DeRozan in there. One of the best in the league. I think the more time they get together as a unit, the better off your team will be. I would keep them together as much as possible.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Who on February 23, 2013, 12:21:27 PM
Also think Gee would fit in better with the 1st unit. Him and Rubio will be the best defensive backcourt in the league and he will give us more spacing with his perimeter shooting.
Maybe I am under-rating A.Gee defensively.

I haven't see him play (defensively) against many SGs. Only really SFs.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: nickagneta on February 23, 2013, 12:30:01 PM
Dwight Howard starting to look like the beast we all know he is. After decimating the Celtics he went 19/16 with a couple huge blocks at the end of the game last night.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: BigAlTheFuture on February 23, 2013, 12:34:05 PM
Also think Gee would fit in better with the 1st unit. Him and Rubio will be the best defensive backcourt in the league and he will give us more spacing with his perimeter shooting.
Maybe I am under-rating A.Gee defensively.

I haven't see him play (defensively) against many SGs. Only really SFs.

I've watched a few Cavs game. He can defend 1-3. His defensive skills are impressive enough for me to insert him in the starting line up. Byron Scott even puts him up against the opposing team point guards on some occasions and he does very well.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Who on February 23, 2013, 12:38:01 PM
Also think Gee would fit in better with the 1st unit. Him and Rubio will be the best defensive backcourt in the league and he will give us more spacing with his perimeter shooting.
Maybe I am under-rating A.Gee defensively.

I haven't see him play (defensively) against many SGs. Only really SFs.

I've watched a few Cavs game. He can defend 1-3. His defensive skills are impressive enough for me to insert him in the starting line up. Byron Scott even puts him up against the opposing team point guards on some occasions and he does very well.
I was just reading some articles on that. I will have to watch A.Gee some more. I mustn't have a good read on him yet.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: ronaldo943 on February 23, 2013, 03:22:37 PM
Team after all star break:

J.J Hickson averaging 23.5 PPG and 13.5 RPG shooting over .700FG%
Al Farouq Aminu averaging 5.5 PPG 10 RPG 2 Stls 2 Blks
Brandon Jennings averaging 32.5 PPG 9 APG 4 RPG
Jamal Crawford averaging 15 PPG 6 APG
Shawn Marion averaging 13.5 PPG 5.5 RPG 3 APG 2.5 Blks
Kevin Martin averaging 17 PPG .500 FG%
Nikola Pekovic averaging 16 PPG 9 RPG
Reggie Evans 2 PPG 9 RPG 21 MPG


My team is no way near being a contender just saw this as something fun to do, you guys can put your players stats after all star break
 
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: BleedGreen1989 on February 23, 2013, 03:29:18 PM
So how's the new look Wolves? Have the very next pick in the draft to add some depth
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: ronaldo943 on February 23, 2013, 03:30:23 PM
So how's the new look Wolves? Have the very next pick in the draft to add some depth

What's your plan rebuild or compete?
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Atzar on February 23, 2013, 03:39:43 PM
So how's the new look Wolves? Have the very next pick in the draft to add some depth

Strange mismatch of a young core that isn't good enough to contend and a few old vets who probably don't want to be part of a rebuilding process. 

In a vacuum you got decent value for Batum and Bass, but in reality neither of the pieces you got are good fits for your team.  With Teague, Mayo and Vucevic, you should go young.  Batum fits that.  Prince and West don't.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: CelticConcourse on February 23, 2013, 03:41:24 PM
Will Pop put my team up to a middle-seed? (4-5)
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on February 23, 2013, 03:45:04 PM
Chicago will you your teams down. Wings are covered, the interior is covered, rebounding won't be a problem.

And this team has a Mo-Ped so you won't be able to catch up on us either.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: BleedGreen1989 on February 23, 2013, 03:48:24 PM
So how's the new look Wolves? Have the very next pick in the draft to add some depth

Strange mismatch of a young core that isn't good enough to contend and a few old vets who probably don't want to be part of a rebuilding process. 

In a vacuum you got decent value for Batum and Bass, but in reality neither of the pieces you got are good fits for your team.  With Teague, Mayo and Vucevic, you should go young.  Batum fits that.  Prince and West don't.

Well I had two issues. First, the average age of my team was about 22 and I had zero veterans to help stabilize the team. Secondly, I was over 25mill below the cap floor and really needed to add some salary and I didn't wanna just draft some high paid scrubs to do so.

So I think I did a good job of adding solid vets to develop my younger guys and increase my payroll in a meaningful way.

Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Atzar on February 23, 2013, 03:49:48 PM
So how's the new look Wolves? Have the very next pick in the draft to add some depth

Strange mismatch of a young core that isn't good enough to contend and a few old vets who probably don't want to be part of a rebuilding process. 

In a vacuum you got decent value for Batum and Bass, but in reality neither of the pieces you got are good fits for your team.  With Teague, Mayo and Vucevic, you should go young.  Batum fits that.  Prince and West don't.

Well I had two issues. First, the average age of my team was about 22 and I had zero veterans to help stabilize the team. Secondly, I was over 25mill below the cap floor and really needed to add some salary and I didn't wanna just draft some high paid scrubs to do so.

So I think I did a good job of adding solid vets to develop my younger guys and increase my payroll in a meaningful way.

But it cost you Batum, who was arguably the best young piece on your roster.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: ronaldo943 on February 23, 2013, 03:52:18 PM
Will Pop put my team up to a middle-seed? (4-5)

If you get good amount of depth
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: BleedGreen1989 on February 23, 2013, 04:02:38 PM
So how's the new look Wolves? Have the very next pick in the draft to add some depth

Strange mismatch of a young core that isn't good enough to contend and a few old vets who probably don't want to be part of a rebuilding process. 

In a vacuum you got decent value for Batum and Bass, but in reality neither of the pieces you got are good fits for your team.  With Teague, Mayo and Vucevic, you should go young.  Batum fits that.  Prince and West don't.

Well I had two issues. First, the average age of my team was about 22 and I had zero veterans to help stabilize the team. Secondly, I was over 25mill below the cap floor and really needed to add some salary and I didn't wanna just draft some high paid scrubs to do so.

So I think I did a good job of adding solid vets to develop my younger guys and increase my payroll in a meaningful way.

But it cost you Batum, who was arguably the best young piece on your roster.

You could argue that but Vucevic is 21, Mayo is 24, Teague is 24, T-Rob is 21, and Kemba is 21. I'm big fans of all them
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: indeedproceed on February 23, 2013, 04:14:03 PM
Lol...this entire time I;ve been reading 'Vucevic' as 'Pekovic'.

I think going young makes the most sense for you hombre. I know you want the vet leadership, but I don't know if you're playoff material right now.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: ronaldo943 on February 23, 2013, 04:16:13 PM
So how's the new look Wolves? Have the very next pick in the draft to add some depth

Strange mismatch of a young core that isn't good enough to contend and a few old vets who probably don't want to be part of a rebuilding process. 

In a vacuum you got decent value for Batum and Bass, but in reality neither of the pieces you got are good fits for your team.  With Teague, Mayo and Vucevic, you should go young.  Batum fits that.  Prince and West don't.

Well I had two issues. First, the average age of my team was about 22 and I had zero veterans to help stabilize the team. Secondly, I was over 25mill below the cap floor and really needed to add some salary and I didn't wanna just draft some high paid scrubs to do so.

So I think I did a good job of adding solid vets to develop my younger guys and increase my payroll in a meaningful way.

But it cost you Batum, who was arguably the best young piece on your roster.

You could argue that but Vucevic is 21, Mayo is 24, Teague is 24, T-Rob is 21, and Kemba is 21. I'm big fans of all them

Your team reminds me of this years Magic except better
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: KGs Knee on February 23, 2013, 04:17:46 PM
Will Pop put my team up to a middle-seed? (4-5)

Pop is a great coach, but a magician he is not.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: BleedGreen1989 on February 23, 2013, 04:18:14 PM
Lol...this entire time I;ve been reading 'Vucevic' as 'Pekovic'.

I think going young makes the most sense for you hombre. I know you want the vet leadership, but I don't know if you're playoff material right now.

I'm certainly not a "contender" but I think this team has plenty of talent to make the playoffs
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: BleedGreen1989 on February 23, 2013, 04:21:39 PM
So how's the new look Wolves? Have the very next pick in the draft to add some depth

Strange mismatch of a young core that isn't good enough to contend and a few old vets who probably don't want to be part of a rebuilding process. 

In a vacuum you got decent value for Batum and Bass, but in reality neither of the pieces you got are good fits for your team.  With Teague, Mayo and Vucevic, you should go young.  Batum fits that.  Prince and West don't.

Well I had two issues. First, the average age of my team was about 22 and I had zero veterans to help stabilize the team. Secondly, I was over 25mill below the cap floor and really needed to add some salary and I didn't wanna just draft some high paid scrubs to do so.

So I think I did a good job of adding solid vets to develop my younger guys and increase my payroll in a meaningful way.

But it cost you Batum, who was arguably the best young piece on your roster.

You could argue that but Vucevic is 21, Mayo is 24, Teague is 24, T-Rob is 21, and Kemba is 21. I'm big fans of all them

Your team reminds me of this years Magic except better

Lol this team has wayyy more talent then Orlando
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: ronaldo943 on February 23, 2013, 04:24:32 PM
Lol...this entire time I;ve been reading 'Vucevic' as 'Pekovic'.

I think going young makes the most sense for you hombre. I know you want the vet leadership, but I don't know if you're playoff material right now.

I'm certainly not a "contender" but I think this team has plenty of talent to make the playoffs

It depends on how good your conference is as i'd picture your team around .500
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: ronaldo943 on February 23, 2013, 04:25:40 PM
So how's the new look Wolves? Have the very next pick in the draft to add some depth

Strange mismatch of a young core that isn't good enough to contend and a few old vets who probably don't want to be part of a rebuilding process. 

In a vacuum you got decent value for Batum and Bass, but in reality neither of the pieces you got are good fits for your team.  With Teague, Mayo and Vucevic, you should go young.  Batum fits that.  Prince and West don't.

Well I had two issues. First, the average age of my team was about 22 and I had zero veterans to help stabilize the team. Secondly, I was over 25mill below the cap floor and really needed to add some salary and I didn't wanna just draft some high paid scrubs to do so.

So I think I did a good job of adding solid vets to develop my younger guys and increase my payroll in a meaningful way.

But it cost you Batum, who was arguably the best young piece on your roster.

You could argue that but Vucevic is 21, Mayo is 24, Teague is 24, T-Rob is 21, and Kemba is 21. I'm big fans of all them

Your team reminds me of this years Magic except better

Lol this team has wayyy more talent then Orlando

I meant that its a bunch of young players and a couple of vets
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: indeedproceed on February 23, 2013, 04:28:32 PM
Lol...this entire time I;ve been reading 'Vucevic' as 'Pekovic'.

I think going young makes the most sense for you hombre. I know you want the vet leadership, but I don't know if you're playoff material right now.

I'm certainly not a "contender" but I think this team has plenty of talent to make the playoffs

My biggest problem is that you don't have a high impact player. You've got good players, but I'm not really sure you've got the mix or the top-talent you'd need going forward. Maybe as a late-seed playoff team ala Nuggets.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: BleedGreen1989 on February 23, 2013, 04:32:34 PM
Lol...this entire time I;ve been reading 'Vucevic' as 'Pekovic'.

I think going young makes the most sense for you hombre. I know you want the vet leadership, but I don't know if you're playoff material right now.

I'm certainly not a "contender" but I think this team has plenty of talent to make the playoffs

My biggest problem is that you don't have a high impact player. You've got good players, but I'm not really sure you've got the mix or the top-talent you'd need going forward. Maybe as a late-seed playoff team ala Nuggets.

I think the Nuggets is a very fair comparison. I know a lot of people don't believe in Mayo on this board but I'm a big fan. I don't think he will become a superstar but I have no problem with him as my go-to scorer
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: slamtheking on February 23, 2013, 04:38:13 PM
In general I don't think there is a defensive front court in this league that can matchup up against the size and skill combination that horford and love have.
Kevin Love + Al Horford = best big man duo in the league?

I think they probably are.

Duncan and Garnett in Boston look to be their main rival to my eyes. Maybe Kirilenko and D.Howard too. I am still a little shaken by Dwight's downturn in performance level this year though. I love AK-47 as a four. 

Honourable mention -- David West and LaMarcus Aldridge in Portland + Tyson Chandler and Paul Millsap in New York. A.Bynum and R.Anderson might be able to crash this group if A.Bynum can prove his health.

Chris Bosh and Emeka Okafor think they're in the discussion too
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: indeedproceed on February 23, 2013, 04:39:18 PM
In general I don't think there is a defensive front court in this league that can matchup up against the size and skill combination that horford and love have.
Kevin Love + Al Horford = best big man duo in the league?

I think they probably are.

Duncan and Garnett in Boston look to be their main rival to my eyes. Maybe Kirilenko and D.Howard too. I am still a little shaken by Dwight's downturn in performance level this year though. I love AK-47 as a four. 

Honourable mention -- David West and LaMarcus Aldridge in Portland + Tyson Chandler and Paul Millsap in New York. A.Bynum and R.Anderson might be able to crash this group if A.Bynum can prove his health.

Chris Bosh and Emeka Okafor think they're in the discussion too

Nah...I don't think Meka + anyone holds a candle vs Horford and Love (assuming Love is healthy).
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: ronaldo943 on February 23, 2013, 04:39:50 PM
It doesnt matter cause i have the best REBOUNDING team in the league  ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: nickagneta on February 23, 2013, 04:51:36 PM
It doesnt matter cause i have the best REBOUNDING team in the league  ;D ;D ;D ;D
Just wondering what measure you are using.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: StartOrien on February 23, 2013, 04:53:33 PM
Above the rim is on BET, my dudez
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Atzar on February 23, 2013, 04:54:34 PM
Lots of homers in this here thread, rofl.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: ronaldo943 on February 23, 2013, 04:54:42 PM
It doesnt matter cause i have the best REBOUNDING team in the league  ;D ;D ;D ;D
Just wondering what measure you are using.

Per 48
Hickson (#5 for C)
Evans (#1 Overall #1 PF)
Pekovic (#19 for C)
Aminu (#1 for SF)
Marion (#2 for SF
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Rondo2287 on February 23, 2013, 04:55:52 PM
In general I don't think there is a defensive front court in this league that can matchup up against the size and skill combination that horford and love have.
Kevin Love + Al Horford = best big man duo in the league?

I think they probably are.

Duncan and Garnett in Boston look to be their main rival to my eyes. Maybe Kirilenko and D.Howard too. I am still a little shaken by Dwight's downturn in performance level this year though. I love AK-47 as a four. 

Honourable mention -- David West and LaMarcus Aldridge in Portland + Tyson Chandler and Paul Millsap in New York. A.Bynum and R.Anderson might be able to crash this group if A.Bynum can prove his health.

Chris Bosh and Emeka Okafor think they're in the discussion too

Nah...I don't think Meka + anyone holds a candle vs Horford and Love (assuming Love is healthy).

Fwiw love hurt his hand doing knuckle push-ups. Is that better than hurting your knee bowling?  I'm not sure
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: indeedproceed on February 23, 2013, 04:58:58 PM
In general I don't think there is a defensive front court in this league that can matchup up against the size and skill combination that horford and love have.
Kevin Love + Al Horford = best big man duo in the league?

I think they probably are.

Duncan and Garnett in Boston look to be their main rival to my eyes. Maybe Kirilenko and D.Howard too. I am still a little shaken by Dwight's downturn in performance level this year though. I love AK-47 as a four. 

Honourable mention -- David West and LaMarcus Aldridge in Portland + Tyson Chandler and Paul Millsap in New York. A.Bynum and R.Anderson might be able to crash this group if A.Bynum can prove his health.

Chris Bosh and Emeka Okafor think they're in the discussion too

Nah...I don't think Meka + anyone holds a candle vs Horford and Love (assuming Love is healthy).

Fwiw love hurt his hand doing knuckle push-ups. Is that better than hurting your knee bowling?  I'm not sure

That's actually a really tough question. Who felt dumber afterwards? I'm guessing Love. That's an Amare moment. Bynum had a Vlad Rad moment.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: StartOrien on February 23, 2013, 05:02:29 PM
In general I don't think there is a defensive front court in this league that can matchup up against the size and skill combination that horford and love have.
Kevin Love + Al Horford = best big man duo in the league?

I think they probably are.

Duncan and Garnett in Boston look to be their main rival to my eyes. Maybe Kirilenko and D.Howard too. I am still a little shaken by Dwight's downturn in performance level this year though. I love AK-47 as a four. 

Honourable mention -- David West and LaMarcus Aldridge in Portland + Tyson Chandler and Paul Millsap in New York. A.Bynum and R.Anderson might be able to crash this group if A.Bynum can prove his health.

Chris Bosh and Emeka Okafor think they're in the discussion too

Nah...I don't think Meka + anyone holds a candle vs Horford and Love (assuming Love is healthy).

Fwiw love hurt his hand doing knuckle push-ups. Is that better than hurting your knee bowling?  I'm not sure

That's actually a really tough question. Who felt dumber afterwards? I'm guessing Love. That's an Amare moment. Bynum had a Vlad Rad moment.

Love felt dumber. Bynum had a fat kid breaks the bench moment
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: RebusRankin on February 23, 2013, 05:53:49 PM
Looking for feedback on Portland

Lillard/Sessions
Thabo/Singler
Batum/Singler
LMA/Bass
Collison/Jonas
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: ronaldo943 on February 23, 2013, 05:56:10 PM
Looking for feedback on Portland

Lillard/Sessions
Thabo/Singler
Batum/Singler
LMA/Bass
Collison/Jonas

Looks like the real Portland team which i dont know if thats a good thing
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Lucky17 on February 23, 2013, 06:02:27 PM
Looking for feedback on Portland

Lillard/Sessions
Thabo/Singler
Batum/Singler
LMA/Bass
Collison/Jonas

Looks like the real Portland team which i dont know if thats a good thing

Starting five-wise, perhaps. Our Fake Blazer bench >>> the Real Blazers.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: RebusRankin on February 23, 2013, 06:22:46 PM
Looking for feedback on Portland

Lillard/Sessions
Thabo/Singler
Batum/Singler
LMA/Bass
Collison/Jonas

Looks like the real Portland team which i dont know if thats a good thing

2 better vets in the starting lineup and we have a much better bench then the real Blazers which has been Portland's issue this year.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: indeedproceed on February 24, 2013, 12:30:05 AM
I'm open to entertaining trade offers on anyone not named Kyrie Irving. No picks, only players.

Ryan Anderson seems to be drawing the most interest (and why not? Not many 4s outside of Kevin Love who can rebound and shoot like Anderson can).
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: ronaldo943 on February 24, 2013, 12:34:33 AM
Danny Granger 1/10 2 Pts
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: CelticConcourse on February 24, 2013, 12:37:46 AM
Danny Granger 1/10 2 Pts

It's his first game back, give him a break. They won.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: indeedproceed on February 24, 2013, 12:56:34 AM
All Granger did tonight was steal valuable minutes from Lance Stephenson.

Kidding (Im not kidding)...
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Atzar on February 24, 2013, 01:24:51 AM
Always willing to listen to trades.  It'd take a lot to get me to move Parker or Gasol, though, since I've built my team around them. 

I do want to swap two picks for a better one.  I have an extra right now and would like to move it.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on February 24, 2013, 05:52:20 AM
Monta had 14 points, 4 rebounds, 10 ASSISTS, 2 steals last night. If he had this fake Bulls teams he would have beaten ATL with that kind of stat line. And we all know he can do better than that.

Haters gonna hate!
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: celticpride07 on February 24, 2013, 08:19:56 AM
Need a good PF looking to trade all of Wallace waiters Hensen 6.21 for one! PM me!
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Roy H. on February 24, 2013, 08:33:35 AM
Monta had 14 points, 4 rebounds, 10 ASSISTS, 2 steals last night. If he had this fake Bulls teams he would have beaten ATL with that kind of stat line. And we all know he can do better than that.

Haters gonna hate!

Ideally, Monta could be moved to the bench.  Jamal Crawford used to have the same reputation he did.  Now, he's seen as a super-sub and 6th Man candidate.  In the right setting -- and I think you have that setting -- I think Monta could be successful.

I'd like to see a better point guard, though.  I wasn't a huge fan of the Chauncey pick.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on February 24, 2013, 08:44:36 AM
I think Monta is okay as PG. He's not going to be able to set teammates up but he will find them when they are open, And Chauncey, he's alright. Veteran leadership, shooting, outside of the mistake I made with his salary, I think he's a fine pickup.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Who on February 24, 2013, 08:46:46 AM
Looking for feedback on Portland

G: Damien Lillard, R.Sessions
F: Nic Batum
F: Thabo Sefolosha, K.Singler
F: Nick Collison, B.Bass
C: LaMarcus Aldridge, J.Valanciunas

I think it is very similar to the current Blazers team.

A few differences between the two teams though: I think those differences give your squad more value. Probably 10-12 extra wins. I think Portland is on something like a 35 win pace so that would bring you up to the mid-40s win wise.

And having a strong prospect like J.Valanciunas over a raw prospect like M.Leonard gives your squad a much more, emm ... tangible future. Something you can depend on. Build around with expectations.

L.Aldridge and J.Valanciunas will be a very effective big man combination in the long term. Their size and length is going to be an intimidating factor for whoever plays against you. Combined with two big wings in Batum and Thabo and Portland clearly has the early stages of a top notch defensive (and rebounding) team down the road.

A probable title contender in another 2-3 years time.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: BigAlTheFuture on February 24, 2013, 05:13:48 PM
Dirk is beginning to get fully healthy and starting to play like the beast he is. 30 and 13 today folks.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: KGs Knee on February 24, 2013, 05:45:53 PM
Dirk is beginning to get fully healthy and starting to play like the beast he is. 30 and 13 today folks.

Dirk was good today, but Kobe was better.

38 Pts, 12 Reb, 7 Ast, and oh yeah, the victory.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: CelticConcourse on February 24, 2013, 05:49:59 PM
Dirk is beginning to get fully healthy and starting to play like the beast he is. 30 and 13 today folks.

Dirk was good today, but Kobe was better.

38 Pts, 12 Reb, 7 Ast, and oh yeah, the victory.

Jeff Green: 31 points, 7 rebounds, 5 blocks, 4 assists, 2 steals

That's what I'm talking about! Memphis can be a contender if he keeps that up. ;D
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: KGs Knee on February 24, 2013, 05:53:11 PM
Dirk is beginning to get fully healthy and starting to play like the beast he is. 30 and 13 today folks.

Dirk was good today, but Kobe was better.

38 Pts, 12 Reb, 7 Ast, and oh yeah, the victory.

Jeff Green: 31 points, 7 rebounds, 5 blocks, 4 assists, 2 steals

That's what I'm talking about! Memphis can be a contender if he keeps that up. ;D

Well sure, if the only team on your schedule is the real Suns.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: indeedproceed on February 25, 2013, 12:35:22 AM
Great news everyone: Andrew Bynum went through a full practice yesterday with the actual real life 76ers. Like a real practice, with a real team.

I know! I'm as excited as you guys are!
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: ronaldo943 on February 25, 2013, 12:46:10 AM
Great news everyone: Andrew Bynum went through a full practice yesterday with the actual real life 76ers. Like a real practice, with a real team.

I know! I'm as excited as you guys are!

Congrats on the great news  :)
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Rondo2287 on February 25, 2013, 08:04:00 AM

Yeah, I think you have loads of jump-shooting.

I would be more concerned with getting a different type of PG behind Calderon. Preferably a dribble drive type player. Someone who will be more aggressive as an attacker rather than a facilitator. Someone who will get into the middle and kick it out to those great jump-shooting big men and Danny Granger. More dribble penetration.

I need the same thing on my team behind Jarrett Jack.

I think I accomplished that by picking up Kemba as my 6th man off the bench.  With the shooting big men drawing the rim defenders away from the basket I think Kemba will be pretty devastating coming off the bench.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Who on February 25, 2013, 08:11:36 AM

Yeah, I think you have loads of jump-shooting.

I would be more concerned with getting a different type of PG behind Calderon. Preferably a dribble drive type player. Someone who will be more aggressive as an attacker rather than a facilitator. Someone who will get into the middle and kick it out to those great jump-shooting big men and Danny Granger. More dribble penetration.

I need the same thing on my team behind Jarrett Jack.

I think I accomplished that by picking up Kemba as my 6th man off the bench.  With the shooting big men drawing the rim defenders away from the basket I think Kemba will be pretty devastating coming off the bench.

Yeah, definitely.

Not really sold on Kemba as a starting PG but I think he will make a top flight change of pace PG off the bench.

A terrific contrast to Calderon off the bench. Gives you that dribble drive threat. That extra weapon offensively. Kemba will be fantastic in that role. 
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Rondo2287 on February 25, 2013, 08:29:54 AM
All Granger did tonight was steal valuable minutes from Lance Stephenson.

Kidding (Im not kidding)...

Im psyched that he is playing.  Of course he's going to be rusty, but almost 20 minutes off the bench first game back is pretty fantastic. 
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: airbelinelli on February 25, 2013, 11:54:08 AM
Any new thoughts on my team with the additions I've made so far?
What/Who do i target now??
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Edgar on February 25, 2013, 12:10:55 PM
Pick 2 Draft -- Utah Jazz- /70.3
PG: Derrick Rose - ()/ Luke Ridnour ()
SG: Evan Turner - ()   / ()
SF: Gerald Henderson- () / ()
PF: Al Jefferson - ()  / Luis Scola ()
C: Derrick Favors ()/ Derrick Williams ()

In construction.....
Coach to be picked.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Rondo2287 on February 25, 2013, 12:19:37 PM
Pick 2 Draft -- Utah Jazz- /70.3
PG: Derrick Rose - ()/ Luke Ridnour ()
SG: Evan Turner - ()   / ()
SF: Gerald Henderson- () / ()
PF: Al Jefferson - ()  / Luis Scola ()
C: Derrick Favors ()/ Derrick Williams ()

In construction.....
Coach to be picked.

Whats your payroll like?
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: nickagneta on February 25, 2013, 12:25:25 PM
Great news everyone: Andrew Bynum went through a full practice yesterday with the actual real life 76ers. Like a real practice, with a real team.

I know! I'm as excited as you guys are!
I thought this was good news for the Cavs....then I read Doug Collins reaction to Bynum's practice:

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1541553-doug-collins-is-unimpressed-by-andrew-bynums-1st-practice-with-76ers

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/8978920/andrew-bynum-philadelphia-76ers-not-close-return-according-coach-doug-collins

Looks like Bynum is still quite a ways off and might not even be guaranteed to be back this year.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: BleedGreen1989 on February 25, 2013, 12:27:41 PM
actually like my team a lot more than a few days ago. no real star but I have no problem rolling out 9 guys who can all contribute. nice blend of youth and experience.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Who on February 25, 2013, 12:30:29 PM
Pick 2 Draft -- Utah Jazz- /70.3
PG: Derrick Rose - ()/ Luke Ridnour ()
SG: Evan Turner - ()   / ()
SF: Gerald Henderson- () / ()
PF: Al Jefferson - ()  / Luis Scola ()
C: Derrick Favors ()/ Derrick Williams ()

In construction.....
Coach to be picked.

Whats your payroll like?

I think Big Al and D.Rose are the only big salaries there. So I would say Utah is still fairly comfortable financially.

I am guessing that is probably around $32 million for Rose and Big Al. Scola is only $2-3 million. E.Turner would be high enough as the #2 pick, probably $4-5 million. Let's say $3 million for G.Henderson. $4 million for Favors. Another $4 million for D.Williams. Luke Ridnour another $4 million.

What does that come out to? About $55 million I reckon.

Edit: D.Rose got the higher max. So he is on $16.4 million rather than $13.5 or whatever it is for the other guys coming off rookie deals.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Who on February 25, 2013, 12:33:56 PM
Any new thoughts on my team with the additions I've made so far?
What/Who do i target now??
I like Sully and Cousins together. Two very physical and highly skilled big men.

Make a good big man duo to run your offense through.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: indeedproceed on February 25, 2013, 12:48:09 PM
Great news everyone: Andrew Bynum went through a full practice yesterday with the actual real life 76ers. Like a real practice, with a real team.

I know! I'm as excited as you guys are!
I thought this was good news for the Cavs....then I read Doug Collins reaction to Bynum's practice:

(Edited out for being a pile of BR garbage)

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/8978920/andrew-bynum-philadelphia-76ers-not-close-return-according-coach-doug-collins

Looks like Bynum is still quite a ways off and might not even be guaranteed to be back this year.

I think you're overly skewing Collin's comments to the negative. Let's not forget that he's currently coaching a vastly under-performing team that a lot of people had high hopes for. He doesn't want to sound optimistic, because if the bad stuff happens, where will he be left?

I'll bet you 500 TP's that Bynum plays this year. I'll bet you 100 TP's that he plays at least 20 games. That's a March 11th return, minimum.

I'm also going to dock you 3 TP's for posting a Bleacher Report link and pretending its actual news. That means the next 3 times I would've been intending to give you a Tommy Point, I'll give it to charity, for the kids. You've been around too long to be posting hot garbage like Bleacher Report up in this house.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: StartOrien on February 25, 2013, 12:54:15 PM
Any new thoughts on my team with the additions I've made so far?
What/Who do i target now??
I like Sully and Cousins together. Two very physical and highly skilled big men.

Make a good big man duo to run your offense through.

I think, if healthy, that's almost a dream combination.

Sullinger's ability to hit a midrange shot and work VERY well off the ball is such a great compliment next to Cousins.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: wdleehi on February 25, 2013, 01:25:15 PM


Warriors  (31.30 million left to spend)

PG  Curry
SG DeShawn Stevenson
SF Gallinari
PF Lavoy Allen
C  M. Gasol


Bench
G  Bledsoe
SG Marco Belinelli
PF Landry
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Edgar on February 25, 2013, 01:31:41 PM
Pick 2 Draft -- Utah Jazz- /70.3
PG: Derrick Rose - ()/ Luke Ridnour ()
SG: Evan Turner - ()   / ()
SF: Gerald Henderson- () / ()
PF: Al Jefferson - ()  / Luis Scola ()
C: Derrick Favors ()/ Derrick Williams ()

In construction.....
Coach to be picked.

Whats your payroll like?

I think Big Al and D.Rose are the only big salaries there. So I would say Utah is still fairly comfortable financially.

I am guessing that is probably around $32 million for Rose and Big Al. Scola is only $2-3 million. E.Turner would be high enough as the #2 pick, probably $4-5 million. Let's say $3 million for G.Henderson. $4 million for Favors. Another $4 million for D.Williams. Luke Ridnour another $4 million.

What does that come out to? About $55 million I reckon.

Edit: D.Rose got the higher max. So he is on $16.4 million rather than $13.5 or whatever it is for the other guys coming off rookie deals.

Iw as planning on working on this right now

TY Who
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Edgar on February 25, 2013, 01:35:14 PM
Pick 2 Draft -- Utah Jazz- 54.0/70.3 or something like that


PG: Derrick Rose - (16.4)/ Luke Ridnour (1.424)
SG: Evan Turner - (5.29)   / ()
SF: Gerald Henderson- (3.101) / ()
PF: Al Jefferson - (15.0)  / Luis Scola (4.15)
C: Derrick Favors (4.75)/ Derrick Williams (4.8 )
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: indeedproceed on February 25, 2013, 01:38:54 PM
Pick 2 Draft -- Utah Jazz- 54.0/70.3 or something like that


PG: Derrick Rose - (16.4)/ Luke Ridnour (1.424)
SG: Evan Turner - (5.29)   / ()
SF: Gerald Henderson- (3.101) / ()
PF: Al Jefferson - (15.0)  / Luis Scola (4.15)
C: Derrick Favors (4.75)/ Derrick Williams (4.8 )

Edgar, you crazy comrade, you're starting your center at the 4, your 4 at the center, your backup 3 at the 5, and your backup 5 at the 4.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Lucky17 on February 25, 2013, 01:40:03 PM
Pick 2 Draft -- Utah Jazz- 54.0/70.3 or something like that


PG: Derrick Rose - (16.4)/ Luke Ridnour (1.424)
SG: Evan Turner - (5.29)   / ()
SF: Gerald Henderson- (3.101) / ()
PF: Al Jefferson - (15.0)  / Luis Scola (4.15)
C: Derrick Favors (4.75)/ Derrick Williams (4.8 )

Haven't checked all of these, but I know Ridnour is making more than $1.4 mil this season.

Derrick Williams at C (?) notwithstanding, I think this is a nice team once Rose comes back. Ridnour will do a fine job in the interim.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on February 25, 2013, 01:44:21 PM
After 6: Chicago Bulls

PG - Monta Ellis (tattooed speedster)
   - Chauncey Billups (old reliable)

SG - Andre Iguodala (lockdown wing #1)
   - Brandon Rush (shooter + defender)

SF - Luol Deng (lockdown wing #2)

PF - Glen Davis (linebacker body, tight end movements)
   - Elton Brand (old semi reliable)

C  - Joakim Noah (still cool)
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Lucky17 on February 25, 2013, 01:47:21 PM


Warriors  (31.30 million left to spend)

PG  Curry
SG DeShawn Stevenson
SF Gallinari
PF Lavoy Allen
C  M. Gasol


Bench
G  Bledsoe
SG Marco Belinelli
PF Landry

Not sure what to make of it. As a fun experiment, I was hoping you'd make Gallo your PF and grab another SF. Maybe that's why I can't figure out how I feel about the roster. The Curry-Gallo-Gasol troika is terrific. The rest of the squad leaves me lukewarm.

I get the Stevenson pick, but I wonder if there's someone younger/healthier that might do the same job for you. And I agree that Landry is better off the bench, but wonder if Allen is ready to start.

Bledsoe seems like a great trade chip.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Atzar on February 25, 2013, 01:52:35 PM
After 6: Chicago Bulls

PG - Monta Ellis (tattooed speedster)
   - Chauncey Billups (old reliable)

SG - Andre Iguodala (lockdown wing #1)
   - Brandon Rush (shooter + defender)

SF - Luol Deng (lockdown wing #2)

PF - Glen Davis (linebacker body, tight end movements)
   - Elton Brand (old semi reliable)

C  - Joakim Noah (still cool)

Tons of pressure on Monta to be the offensive engine on this team.  Nobody else on the team is really a creator, with Iguodala being inefficient, Deng needing to be set up and Chauncey being old. 

Still, if any of our fantasy teams here have a shot at slowing down LeBron or Durant, it'll be this one.  Deng, Iguodala and Rush can all guard wings very well. 

A playoff team and a tough out based on the defense alone.  How much further you go depends on how much further Monta takes you, which should be a scary thought.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: BigAlTheFuture on February 25, 2013, 01:53:21 PM
Pick 2 Draft -- Utah Jazz- 54.0/70.3 or something like that


PG: Derrick Rose - (16.4)/ Luke Ridnour (1.424)
SG: Evan Turner - (5.29)   / ()
SF: Gerald Henderson- (3.101) / ()
PF: Al Jefferson - (15.0)  / Luis Scola (4.15)
C: Derrick Favors (4.75)/ Derrick Williams (4.8 )

Haven't checked all of these, but I know Ridnour is making more than $1.4 mil this season.

Derrick Williams at C (?) notwithstanding, I think this is a nice team once Rose comes back. Ridnour will do a fine job in the interim.

Luke is making 4mil, you're right.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Who on February 25, 2013, 01:58:31 PM
G: Jarrett Jack, JJ Barea
G: Eric Gordon, Jarrett Jack
F: Luc Mbah a Moute, Chase Budinger
F: Amare Stoudemire, Enes Kanter
C: Anthony Davis, Enes Kanter

So I think my main rotation is pretty much done now. An 8 man unit.

I am at about $58 million now.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Who on February 25, 2013, 02:05:11 PM


Warriors  (31.30 million left to spend)

PG  Curry
SG DeShawn Stevenson
SF Gallinari
PF Lavoy Allen
C  M. Gasol


Bench
G  Bledsoe
SG Marco Belinelli
PF Landry

I liked bringing in D.Stevenson to start over Belinelli.

Not much of a fan of Belinelli as a two guard in the NBA. Lightweight defender/rebounder. Too streaky offensively to consistently make up for it.

DeShawn Stevenson brings some much needed perimeter defense and a dose of physical toughness to that backcourt unit. I think he will be a valuable role player for Golden State.

I love your bench with Eric Bledsoe and Carl Landry. Two top line reserves. They will give you one of the best bench units in the league. I am a big fan of that pairing.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: jgod213 on February 25, 2013, 02:15:56 PM
G: Jarrett Jack, JJ Barea
G: Eric Gordon, Jarrett Jack
F: Luc Mbah a Moute, Chase Budinger
F: Amare Stoudemire, Enes Kanter
C: Anthony Davis, Enes Kanter

So I think my main rotation is pretty much done now. An 8 man unit.

I am at about $58 million now.

I didn't realize Budinger hadn't played since November.  Looks like you could use some reinforments at the 3? But other than that I'm a fan of this team. 

If Gordon, STAT, and Budz can all stay healthy this team should be competing for the playoffs while establishing itself as one of the best future teams.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: nickagneta on February 25, 2013, 02:24:33 PM
Great news everyone: Andrew Bynum went through a full practice yesterday with the actual real life 76ers. Like a real practice, with a real team.

I know! I'm as excited as you guys are!
I thought this was good news for the Cavs....then I read Doug Collins reaction to Bynum's practice:

(Edited out for being a pile of BR garbage)

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/8978920/andrew-bynum-philadelphia-76ers-not-close-return-according-coach-doug-collins

Looks like Bynum is still quite a ways off and might not even be guaranteed to be back this year.

I think you're overly skewing Collin's comments to the negative. Let's not forget that he's currently coaching a vastly under-performing team that a lot of people had high hopes for. He doesn't want to sound optimistic, because if the bad stuff happens, where will he be left?

I'll bet you 500 TP's that Bynum plays this year. I'll bet you 100 TP's that he plays at least 20 games. That's a March 11th return, minimum.

I'm also going to dock you 3 TP's for posting a Bleacher Report link and pretending its actual news. That means the next 3 times I would've been intending to give you a Tommy Point, I'll give it to charity, for the kids. You've been around too long to be posting hot garbage like Bleacher Report up in this house.
I will take the 100 TPs bet. No way Bynum plays 20 games this season.

And my sincere apologies to the site for my pathetic use of a BR link. It shall not happen again.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: jgod213 on February 25, 2013, 02:25:22 PM


Warriors  (31.30 million left to spend)

PG  Curry
SG DeShawn Stevenson
SF Gallinari
PF Lavoy Allen
C  M. Gasol


Bench
G  Bledsoe
SG Marco Belinelli
PF Landry

I liked bringing in D.Stevenson to start over Belinelli.

Not much of a fan of Belinelli as a two guard in the NBA. Lightweight defender/rebounder. Too streaky offensively to consistently make up for it.

DeShawn Stevenson brings some much needed perimeter defense and a dose of physical toughness to that backcourt unit. I think he will be a valuable role player for Golden State.

I love your bench with Eric Bledsoe and Carl Landry. Two top line reserves. They will give you one of the best bench units in the league. I am a big fan of that pairing.

Anytime you can start a guy with Abraham Lincoln tattoo'd on his adam's apple you gotta do it.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: Atzar on February 25, 2013, 02:42:17 PM
G: Jarrett Jack, JJ Barea
G: Eric Gordon, Jarrett Jack
F: Luc Mbah a Moute, Chase Budinger
F: Amare Stoudemire, Enes Kanter
C: Anthony Davis, Enes Kanter

So I think my main rotation is pretty much done now. An 8 man unit.

I am at about $58 million now.

Lots to talk about here. 

Some health concerns with EGor and Amare.  The million-dollar question is whether or not STAT's health holds up long enough to give you a few years of contention when the Brow hits his stride. 

As far as fit goes, though, everything is there.  Jack is an average PG, but PG's are overrated anyway.  Jack and Gordon aren't the quickest of backcourts, but Davis should make up for a lot of that.  Mbah a Moute is a tremendous fit because your other four starters can all shoot.  Davis covers Amare's deficiencies on defense and rebounding, though I do think you'll be a bit below average on the glass as a whole.  Budinger is a nice weapon off the bench and has become underrated in the wake of his injury. 

Kanter makes a lot of sense along with Davis, and you'll probably end up shifting Davis to the 4 and starting Kanter when Amare slows down. 

I like this team a lot overall.  I initially thought you picked Amare too early in the draft - thought the contract and health issues would drop him some - but if he's healthy he makes you a dangerous playoff team much earlier than you otherwise would have been with just Gordon and Davis.  You'd better hire Phoenix's medical staff, though, because this team will need the best.  This team could become a strong contender for a couple of years, or it could become as big of a what-if story as real-life Portland.

EDIT:  Looked up Jack's stats... he's doing a lot better this year than I thought.  Didn't know how well he was shooting the ball.  If that's not a fluke (he's been wildly inconsistent from year to year), then he's a good PG for you. 
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: snively on February 25, 2013, 02:49:15 PM
Barea and Jack is an interesting combo off the bench.
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: celticpride07 on February 25, 2013, 03:16:33 PM
SUNS Pick 2:
PG: Goran Dragic(7.5)
SG: Dwyane Wade(17.1) Dion Waiters(3.72)
SF: Kawhi Leonard(1.88) Gerald Wallace(9.88)
PF: Kris Humphries(12) John Henson(1.8 )
C: Marcin Gortat(7.25)

Thoughts?
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: wdleehi on February 25, 2013, 03:18:43 PM
G: Jarrett Jack, JJ Barea
G: Eric Gordon, Jarrett Jack
F: Luc Mbah a Moute, Chase Budinger
F: Amare Stoudemire, Enes Kanter
C: Anthony Davis, Enes Kanter

So I think my main rotation is pretty much done now. An 8 man unit.

I am at about $58 million now.


I would look to mover Amare and Jack to see if you could get a better young PG and a backup big man.  (start Kanter)
Title: Re: 2013 Pick 2 Draft: How's my team look?
Post by: CelticConcourse on February 25, 2013, 03:22:09 PM
Memphis Grizzlies

Coach: Gregg Popovich

PG: Greivis Vásquez ($1.19 million)
SG: Klay Thompson ($2.22 million)
SF: Jeff Green ($8.38 million)
PF: Zach Randolph ($16.50 million)
C: Omer Asik ($8.37 million)

PG: Andre Miller ($5.00 million)
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SF: Caron Butler ($8.00 million)
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$20,626,954 in cap space for:
7.15, 8.11, 8.15, 9.15, 9.19, 11.15

I'd appreciate if someone gave me some advice :D