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Title: Doc would like a free agent pf who can spread the floor or rebound
Post by: rondohondo on February 15, 2013, 01:14:06 PM
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Doc Rivers confirmed the Boston Celtics’ interest in adding players to their injury-depleted roster.

The Celtics are looking to fill the void left by the loss of Rajon Rondo, Jared Sullinger and Leandro Barbosa.

"Danny [Ainge] and I, we thought about it and we all have been thinking about it since all the injuries," Rivers said. "With the last one with Barbosa, now we can't look at one position anymore. That's what we were looking at — looking at size first, then a guard. Now we're looking at players. We need players. We need to pick up a couple of players as soon as we can get them. That's what basically we're doing.

"But we don't want to do anything so quick that somebody else comes available and then we don't have room because we're at the cap threshold. We have to be very careful in what we do."

Asked what kind of player would help most right away, Rivers said: "I would say a ball-handling guard. It's no longer a point guard, it's just a guard. If I had my perfect guard for this group right now, it would be a guard that can play multiple positions and that can shoot, that has some toughness.

"And then you need a big. You're not going to find a center, so a four. Obviously a five would be great, but a four that can stretch the floor. Or a four that can rebound, just a great rebounding four that has skills.”

Via Jerry Spar/WEEI
 

Green is better than any stretch pf out there, so just focus on the rebounder doc

Sounds like delonte fits the description of the guard he wants
Title: Re: Doc would like a free agent pf who can spread the floor or rebound
Post by: ScottHow on February 15, 2013, 01:19:33 PM
Josh smith  ;)
Title: Re: Doc would like a free agent pf who can spread the floor or rebound
Post by: lightspeed5 on February 15, 2013, 01:41:47 PM
delonte west
kenyon martin
Title: Re: Doc would like a free agent pf who can spread the floor or rebound
Post by: Kane3387 on February 15, 2013, 01:46:33 PM
delonte west
kenyon martin

Neither has played meaningful ball since April... Though that didn't stop PJ Brown in 2008.
Title: Re: Doc would like a free agent pf who can spread the floor or rebound
Post by: csfansince60s on February 15, 2013, 01:48:12 PM
Yi Jianlin fits the first criterion well and the second so-so.

Love to have him. Can we sign him?
Title: Re: Doc would like a free agent pf who can spread the floor or rebound
Post by: rondohondo on February 15, 2013, 01:49:48 PM
delonte west
kenyon martin

I agree, they are the best that is out there, unless someone better gets bought out.
Title: Re: Doc would like a free agent pf who can spread the floor or rebound
Post by: D Dub on February 15, 2013, 02:13:58 PM
think Doc is making a sales pitch here. 

there will be some solid vets bought out if we see some trades.  guys like: 

Elton Brand
Lamar Odom
Humphries or R Evans

I don't think we'll be going after FA that are out there like Martin, Fisher or West.  if we wanted those guys, they'd already be here.  All the cost cutting around the league, guarantee some good vets end up available after the deadline.  C's are their best option, and Doc just reminded em of that fact.
Title: Re: Doc would like a free agent pf who can spread the floor or rebound
Post by: Kane3387 on February 15, 2013, 02:15:45 PM
think Doc is making a sales pitch here. 

there will be some solid vets bought out if we see some trades.  guys like: 

Elton Brand
Lamar Odom
Humphries or R Evans

I don't think we'll be going after FA that are out there like Martin, Fisher or West.  if we wanted those guys, they'd already be here.  All the cost cutting around the league, guarantee some good vets end up available after the deadline.  C's are their best option, and Doc just reminded em of that fact.

Only Odom has a chance to be bought out if traded.
Title: Re: Doc would like a free agent pf who can spread the floor or rebound
Post by: droopdog7 on February 15, 2013, 02:21:11 PM
I suppose I would prefer a rebounder over a stretch four.  But hey, I understand that picking are going to be very slim regardless.  So hopefully we can find someone that can at least contribute.
Title: Re: Doc would like a free agent pf who can spread the floor or rebound
Post by: LooseCannon on February 15, 2013, 02:35:23 PM
It's all relative.  I'd take a stretch four who can rebound and defend almost as well as Bass over an above-average rebounder who is limited to mostly put-backs on offense and doesn't play defense.
Title: Re: Doc would like a free agent pf who can spread the floor or rebound
Post by: PhoSita on February 15, 2013, 02:54:08 PM
I'd like a BMW, a tastefully furnished third floor studio apartment with affordable rent, and to have my student loans completely forgiven.

We all want nice things.
Title: Re: Doc would like a free agent pf who can spread the floor or rebound
Post by: PhoSita on February 15, 2013, 02:55:22 PM
Yi Jianlin fits the first criterion well and the second so-so.

Love to have him. Can we sign him?

Ugh.

Has Yi even been playing basketball the past few years?
Title: Re: Doc would like a free agent pf who can spread the floor or rebound
Post by: aporel#18 on February 15, 2013, 03:00:00 PM
Yi Jianlin fits the first criterion well and the second so-so.

Love to have him. Can we sign him?

At first I thought "yeah, right... Yi and his chair". But actually, I wouldn't mind him after watching him playing hard at the Olympics. He did quite well, mostly on offense.

And reportedly Danny wanted him back in the 2007 Draft, right?

Get him Danny, we need some international support!
Title: Re: Doc would like a free agent pf who can spread the floor or rebound
Post by: Geo123 on February 15, 2013, 03:03:17 PM
think Doc is making a sales pitch here. 

there will be some solid vets bought out if we see some trades.  guys like: 

Elton Brand
Lamar Odom
Humphries or R Evans

I don't think we'll be going after FA that are out there like Martin, Fisher or West.  if we wanted those guys, they'd already be here.  All the cost cutting around the league, guarantee some good vets end up available after the deadline.  C's are their best option, and Doc just reminded em of that fact.

None of those guys will probably be bought out.  The Clippers are trying to win a Championship and Odom is playing meaningful minutes.  Brand is averaging 7 PPG and 6.5 RPG and is signed cheap this year (2.1 million) so there's no reason for Dallas to buy him out, maybe trade him but probably not.   The same goes for Evans.  Unless Humphries is traded that won't happen either...
Title: Re: Doc would like a free agent pf who can spread the floor or rebound
Post by: Celtics4ever on February 15, 2013, 03:14:33 PM
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Yi Jianlin fits the first criterion well

Get real!
Title: Re: Doc would like a free agent pf who can spread the floor or rebound
Post by: CelticConcourse on February 15, 2013, 03:22:54 PM
A PF who can spread the floor? NO WAY...
Title: Re: Doc would like a free agent pf who can spread the floor or rebound
Post by: KG_ended_Bias on February 15, 2013, 03:27:58 PM
A PF who can spread the floor? NO WAY...
Sounds like Antoine Walker! Lets bring back employee #88 because he's twice as big.
Title: Re: Doc would like a free agent pf who can spread the floor or rebound
Post by: pearljammer10 on February 15, 2013, 03:46:52 PM
Yi Jianlin fits the first criterion well and the second so-so.

Love to have him. Can we sign him?


Say Whaaaat?
Title: Re: Doc would like a free agent pf who can spread the floor or rebound
Post by: kozlodoev on February 15, 2013, 03:49:22 PM
delonte west
kenyon martin

I agree, they are the best that is out there, unless someone better gets bought out.
In vacuum, maybe. In reality, probably the two worst option.
Title: Re: Doc would like a free agent pf who can spread the floor or rebound
Post by: krook on February 15, 2013, 09:28:58 PM
this is my opinion
brandon bass can spread the floor but cant rebound and box out and misses a jump shots most of the time
he is a good defender though but lack of size

about on the doc rivers quote
a guy who can rebounds and spread the floor

example:
kenyon martin is that guy (Example Only)
would you put brandon bass as a starter
or just sit on the bench and just a replacement player?

that is why i think brandon bass will be traded mid-season
or we should trade him,
but the question is who is the person out there who can spread the floor?
i will get a guy who can rebounds but cannot spread the floor than a guy like bass who can spread the floor but cannot rebounds and box out at all

example:
anthony randolph
giving him 20minutes, the last time he played 27 minutes
17 points and 9 rebounds i think

kevin seraphin
he can get 9 or 11 or 8 rebounds too

jason thompson
who can rebounds too

timofey mozgov
can get 15+ points
9 or 8 or 10 rebounds per game not bad at all
+ 1 or 2 blocks

wilson chandler
can rebounds and score

greg smith
royce white
patrick patterson

greg monroe
can rebounds

amir johnson
can rebounds

ilyosova
dalembert
both can rebounds

andray blatche
can rebounds

luis scola
a good player too

etc; etc;


Title: Re: Doc would like a free agent pf who can spread the floor or rebound
Post by: jambr380 on February 15, 2013, 09:50:07 PM
this is my opinion
brandon bass can spread the floor but cant rebound and box out and misses a jump shots most of the time
he is a good defender though but lack of size

about on the doc rivers quote
a guy who can rebounds and spread the floor

example:
kenyon martin is that guy (Example Only)
would you put brandon bass as a starter
or just sit on the bench and just a replacement player?

that is why i think brandon bass will be traded mid-season
or we should trade him,
but the question is who is the person out there who can spread the floor?
i will get a guy who can rebounds but cannot spread the floor than a guy like bass who can spread the floor but cannot rebounds and box out at all

example:
anthony randolph
giving him 20minutes, the last time he played 27 minutes
17 points and 9 rebounds i think

kevin seraphin
he can get 9 or 11 or 8 rebounds too

jason thompson
who can rebounds too

timofey mozgov
can get 15+ points
9 or 8 or 10 rebounds per game not bad at all
+ 1 or 2 blocks

wilson chandler
can rebounds and score

greg smith
royce white
patrick patterson

greg monroe
can rebounds

amir johnson
can rebounds

ilyosova
dalembert
both can rebounds

andray blatche
can rebounds

luis scola
a good player too

etc; etc;

The guys you listed are mostly unattainable [Monroe, really? We couldn't even acquire him for Rondo]...Bass isn't going to net us anything more than a similar player with us giving up a valuable draft pick to dump his contract.
Title: Re: Doc would like a free agent pf who can spread the floor or rebound
Post by: Meadowlark_Scal on February 16, 2013, 01:20:44 PM
And it ONLY took him 5 years to figure this out...! Progress...or low expectations from limited vision/mamagement..?
Title: Re: Doc would like a free agent pf who can spread the floor or rebound
Post by: CelticConcourse on February 16, 2013, 01:37:34 PM
Yi Jianlin fits the first criterion well and the second so-so.

Love to have him. Can we sign him?


Say Whaaaat?

Sure! He was great against Spain in the Olympics. He's worth a try. Vet min!
Title: Re: Doc would like a free agent pf who can spread the floor or rebound
Post by: hwangjini_1 on February 16, 2013, 01:41:27 PM
A PF who can spread the floor? NO WAY...
Sounds like Antoine Walker! Lets bring back employee #88 because he's twice as big.

does this mean he would take up two roster spots?
Title: Re: Doc would like a free agent pf who can spread the floor or rebound
Post by: More Banners on February 16, 2013, 01:58:54 PM
Rebound an hit corner 3's?

Hey, Danny-  PM me!
Title: Re: Doc would like a free agent pf who can spread the floor or rebound
Post by: CelticG1 on February 16, 2013, 02:12:00 PM
delonte west
kenyon martin

I agree, they are the best that is out there, unless someone better gets bought out.
In vacuum, maybe. In reality, probably the two worst option.

Might as well roll the dice on them.

If they play up to capabilities could be pretty great pick ups.

If not, well what or who else could we have got?

It's pretty tough right now until after the deadline and buy outs.

At the moment though no doubt these would be the no brainer options IMO. Especially considering we aren't exactly favorites right now and we desperately needs bodies.