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Title: Kevin Garnett: "This will be my last All-Star Game, you don't know what I know"
Post by: indeedproceed on February 13, 2013, 11:15:58 PM
http://twitter.com/#!/GethinCoolbaugh/status/301898609081868291

Post game comments. Also of note, "Doc gave me the option of taking the night off. I should've (expletive) took it."

Strongest indication KG is hangin them up after the season.
Title: Re: Kevin Garnett: "This will be my last All-Star Game, you don't know what I know"
Post by: Atzar on February 13, 2013, 11:17:18 PM
That's a surprisingly hostile comment, given that we won the game tonight.  Did he get hurt or something?
Title: Re: Kevin Garnett: "This will be my last All-Star Game, you don't know what I know"
Post by: esel1000 on February 13, 2013, 11:17:53 PM
Sounds like a triple OT game followed by a game in Charlotte has KG still hurting today vs the Bulls... thats a lot for any player let alone a 36 year old whose been in the league for 17 years
Title: Re: Kevin Garnett: "This will be my last All-Star Game, you don't know what I know"
Post by: CelticConcourse on February 13, 2013, 11:18:14 PM
Hmm. I'm ambivalent, Spo play KG only 10 minutes plz
Title: Re: Kevin Garnett: "This will be my last All-Star Game, you don't know what I know"
Post by: CelticConcourse on February 13, 2013, 11:19:44 PM
If you think hard, these comments are really scary  :'(
Title: Re: Kevin Garnett: "This will be my last All-Star Game, you don't know what I know"
Post by: Atzar on February 13, 2013, 11:20:49 PM
If you think hard, these comments are really scary  :'(

We knew it was coming.  I don't think anybody actually expected him to play out the length of his contract.
Title: Re: Kevin Garnett: "This will be my last All-Star Game, you don't know what I know"
Post by: StartOrien on February 13, 2013, 11:21:33 PM
Well that's a yuge bummer.
Title: Re: Kevin Garnett: "This will be my last All-Star Game, you don't know what I know"
Post by: CelticConcourse on February 13, 2013, 11:22:15 PM
If you think hard, these comments are really scary  :'(

We knew it was coming.  I don't think anybody actually expected him to play out the length of his contract.

I feel foolish for thinking so now
Title: Re: Kevin Garnett: "This will be my last All-Star Game, you don't know what I know"
Post by: Lightskinsmurf on February 13, 2013, 11:23:23 PM
I called it..
Title: Re: Kevin Garnett: "This will be my last All-Star Game, you don't know what I know"
Post by: ManUp on February 13, 2013, 11:24:55 PM
Love KG, he has a couple more years left in him, but it would probably best for the organization if true.
Title: Re: Kevin Garnett: "This will be my last All-Star Game, you don't know what I know"
Post by: Celtics18 on February 13, 2013, 11:25:07 PM
He'll have time to change his mind a few more times before next season starts.  I'm going to wait until I take this as definitive proof of anything. 

Title: Re: Kevin Garnett: "This will be my last All-Star Game, you don't know what I know"
Post by: CelticConcourse on February 13, 2013, 11:25:51 PM
Love KG, he has a couple more years left in him, but it would probably best for the organization if true.

Do we still have to pay? Ugh
Title: Re: Kevin Garnett: "This will be my last All-Star Game, you don't know what I know"
Post by: GreenFaith1819 on February 13, 2013, 11:26:56 PM
Umm....can someone tell me who "Gethin Coolbaugh" is.....?

Have NEVER heard of him...
Title: Re: Kevin Garnett: "This will be my last All-Star Game, you don't know what I know"
Post by: GreenFaith1819 on February 13, 2013, 11:28:30 PM
I truly don't think KG would announce something like this via a twitter source....not KG.
Title: Re: Kevin Garnett: "This will be my last All-Star Game, you don't know what I know"
Post by: Boston Garden Leprechaun on February 13, 2013, 11:28:53 PM
http://twitter.com/#!/GethinCoolbaugh/status/301898609081868291

Post game comments. Also of note, "Doc gave me the option of taking the night off. I should've (expletive) took it."

Strongest indication KG is hangin them up after the season.

Let's not assume anything just yet people. This guy is still a top 5 center in the east easily. Up to him in the end though. Sounds angry or hurt.
Title: Re: Kevin Garnett: "This will be my last All-Star Game, you don't know what I know"
Post by: Boston Garden Leprechaun on February 13, 2013, 11:30:44 PM
I called it..

(http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n114/TIGERRADIATION/kgface.gif)
Title: Re: Kevin Garnett: "This will be my last All-Star Game, you don't know what I know"
Post by: ManUp on February 13, 2013, 11:31:01 PM
Love KG, he has a couple more years left in him, but it would probably best for the organization if true.

Do we still have to pay? Ugh

I'm under the impression the rest of his contract would come off the books if he retired.
Title: Re: Kevin Garnett: "This will be my last All-Star Game, you don't know what I know"
Post by: Boston Garden Leprechaun on February 13, 2013, 11:31:55 PM
Umm....can someone tell me who "Gethin Coolbaugh" is.....?

Have NEVER heard of him...

cheesy source from the sound of it. I'll wait patiently until KG officially says something
Title: Re: Kevin Garnett: "This will be my last All-Star Game, you don't know what I know"
Post by: go11celtics on February 13, 2013, 11:33:38 PM
Umm....can someone tell me who "Gethin Coolbaugh" is.....?

Have NEVER heard of him...

I actually went to high school with him. I'm pretty sure he does something media related for the celtics, but not positive. Personally never listened to a word he said but who knows maybe he got something right for once
Title: Re: Kevin Garnett: "This will be my last All-Star Game, you don't know what I know"
Post by: Boston Garden Leprechaun on February 13, 2013, 11:33:41 PM
however IF TRUE, I guess i will have to hop a flight from down here way way up to the northeast to a playoff game to send my favorite celtic since bird off on a good note.
Title: Re: Kevin Garnett: "This will be my last All-Star Game, you don't know what I know"
Post by: indeedproceed on February 13, 2013, 11:35:01 PM
Umm....can someone tell me who "Gethin Coolbaugh" is.....?

Have NEVER heard of him...

Writes for SBNation, for their Boston site (all Boston sports). I think he's their main writer or editor actually.
Title: Re: Kevin Garnett: "This will be my last All-Star Game, you don't know what I know"
Post by: Boston Garden Leprechaun on February 13, 2013, 11:35:45 PM
Umm....can someone tell me who "Gethin Coolbaugh" is.....?

Have NEVER heard of him...

I actually went to high school with him. I'm pretty sure he does something media related for the celtics, but not positive. Personally never listened to a word he said but who knows maybe he got something right for once

maybe he will just skip the all star game next year if picked???? heck i would this year and choose to rest instead. let an alternate play.
Title: Re: Kevin Garnett: "This will be my last All-Star Game, you don't know what I know"
Post by: mainevent on February 13, 2013, 11:36:05 PM
I may be a super reader between the liner but don't be shocked if Danny told KG tonight that he's gonna trade him.
What makes me say that you say? Well, knowing KG the two comments he made speaks volumes. The first of this being his last all star game. He doesn't strike me as one who would forego the final two years of his contract if he was gonna be here in Boston, but the most cryptic of quotes was the one where he said looking back he should have taken the night off. That's not KG. That sounds like anger. Especially after getting the W for him to make a comment like that just doesn't sound right. This dude will play every night if we had a game every night this week. That quote just doesn't sit well with me. Lastly the final quote..."ya'll don't know what I know." I hope it's not true, but I think he's gone by the deadline.
Title: Re: Kevin Garnett: "This will be my last All-Star Game, you don't know what I know"
Post by: kgainez on February 13, 2013, 11:37:19 PM
it seems to me both comments were made in jest.

definitely the 'shoulda taken it off' one...he went on to say he had to be fair and give his all. wanted to.
Title: Re: Kevin Garnett: "This will be my last All-Star Game, you don't know what I know"
Post by: StartOrien on February 13, 2013, 11:37:27 PM
I don't really care if it's best for the organization - if Kevin Garnett has good years left in him I really don't want to be short changed. It's a pleasure being able to watch this guy play.
Title: Re: Kevin Garnett: "This will be my last All-Star Game, you don't know what I know"
Post by: Boston Garden Leprechaun on February 13, 2013, 11:38:13 PM
I may be a super reader between the liner but don't be shocked if Danny told KG tonight that he's gonna trade him.
What makes me say that you say? Well, knowing KG the two comments he made speaks volumes. The first of this being his last all star game. He doesn't strike me as one who would forego the final two years of his contract if he was gonna be here in Boston, but the most cryptic of quotes was the one where he said looking back he should have taken the night off. That's not KG. That sounds like anger. Especially after getting the W for him to make a comment like that just doesn't sound right. This dude will play every night if we had a game every night this week. That quote just doesn't sit well with me. I hope it's not true, but I think he's gone by the deadline.

yeah, that did not sit well with me either. sounded mad or angry. IDK. guess we will see.
Title: Re: Kevin Garnett: "This will be my last All-Star Game, you don't know what I know"
Post by: ImShakHeIsShaq on February 13, 2013, 11:38:29 PM
I may be a super reader between the liner but don't be shocked if Danny told KG tonight that he's gonna trade him.
What makes me say that you say? Well, knowing KG the two comments he made speaks volumes. The first of this being his last all star game. He doesn't strike me as one who would forego the final two years of his contract if he was gonna be here in Boston, but the most cryptic of quotes was the one where he said looking back he should have taken the night off. That's not KG. That sounds like anger. Especially after getting the W for him to make a comment like that just doesn't sound right. This dude will play every night if we had a game every night this week. That quote just doesn't sit well with me. I hope it's not true, but I think he's gone by the deadline.


 gary washburn @GwashNBAGlobe

KG gets cryptic on us and says it will be his last all-star game and then says he'll treat it like it will be #celtics
Title: Re: Kevin Garnett: "This will be my last All-Star Game, you don't know what I know"
Post by: Atzar on February 13, 2013, 11:38:46 PM
I may be a super reader between the liner but don't be shocked if Danny told KG tonight that he's gonna trade him.
What makes me say that you say? Well, knowing KG the two comments he made speaks volumes. The first of this being his last all star game. He doesn't strike me as one who would forego the final two years of his contract if he was gonna be here in Boston, but the most cryptic of quotes was the one where he said looking back he should have taken the night off. That's not KG. That sounds like anger. Especially after getting the W for him to make a comment like that just doesn't sound right. This dude will play every night if we had a game every night this week. That quote just doesn't sit well with me. I hope it's not true, but I think he's gone by the deadline.

I didn't really consider a trade as a possibility, but I agree with you.  Something probably happened that we don't know about.
Title: Re: Kevin Garnett: "This will be my last All-Star Game, you don't know what I know"
Post by: CelticsFan9 on February 13, 2013, 11:39:18 PM
I don't really care if it's best for the organization - if Kevin Garnett has good years left in him I really don't want to be short changed. It's a pleasure being able to watch this guy play.

Agree
Title: Re: Kevin Garnett: "This will be my last All-Star Game, you don't know what I know"
Post by: go11celtics on February 13, 2013, 11:39:50 PM
I may be a super reader between the liner but don't be shocked if Danny told KG tonight that he's gonna trade him.
What makes me say that you say? Well, knowing KG the two comments he made speaks volumes. The first of this being his last all star game. He doesn't strike me as one who would forego the final two years of his contract if he was gonna be here in Boston, but the most cryptic of quotes was the one where he said looking back he should have taken the night off. That's not KG. That sounds like anger. Especially after getting the W for him to make a comment like that just doesn't sound right. This dude will play every night if we had a game every night this week. That quote just doesn't sit well with me. I hope it's not true, but I think he's gone by the deadline.

Why do you have to say this! Now I won't be able to sleep until the deadline! Although kg does have a no trade clause so he has to sign off on it
Title: Re: Kevin Garnett: "This will be my last All-Star Game, you don't know what I know"
Post by: Jay D on February 13, 2013, 11:40:48 PM
I may be a super reader between the liner but don't be shocked if Danny told KG tonight that he's gonna trade him.

KG has a no trade clause doesn't he? Danny can't really move him anywhere unless KG approves it.
Title: Re: Kevin Garnett: "This will be my last All-Star Game, you don't know what I know"
Post by: ImShakHeIsShaq on February 13, 2013, 11:40:57 PM
youtube.com/watch?v=qEXrhvlEv1k
Title: Re: Kevin Garnett: "This will be my last All-Star Game, you don't know what I know"
Post by: GreenFaith1819 on February 13, 2013, 11:41:32 PM
I just don't think KG would go out like this...writers get stuff wrong, too.

Until I see a news conference, rumors on ESPN, etc - I can't put too much stock into this.
Title: Re: Kevin Garnett: "This will be my last All-Star Game, you don't know what I know"
Post by: indeedproceed on February 13, 2013, 11:41:56 PM
Umm....can someone tell me who "Gethin Coolbaugh" is.....?

Have NEVER heard of him...

cheesy source from the sound of it. I'll wait patiently until KG officially says something

http://boston.sbnation.com/authors/gethin-coolbaugh

He's the regional editor for SBNation, and others have reported it. The quote is legitimate.

Trust me, I'm the first guy who calls shenanigans on bad sources. I don't bring cheese to the party.
Title: Re: Kevin Garnett: "This will be my last All-Star Game, you don't know what I know"
Post by: mainevent on February 13, 2013, 11:43:38 PM
I may be a super reader between the liner but don't be shocked if Danny told KG tonight that he's gonna trade him.
What makes me say that you say? Well, knowing KG the two comments he made speaks volumes. The first of this being his last all star game. He doesn't strike me as one who would forego the final two years of his contract if he was gonna be here in Boston, but the most cryptic of quotes was the one where he said looking back he should have taken the night off. That's not KG. That sounds like anger. Especially after getting the W for him to make a comment like that just doesn't sound right. This dude will play every night if we had a game every night this week. That quote just doesn't sit well with me. I hope it's not true, but I think he's gone by the deadline.

Why do you have to say this! Now I won't be able to sleep until the deadline! Although kg does have a no trade clause so he has to sign off on it

...and dont forget the final quote...."Yall don't know what I know."
Title: Re: Kevin Garnett: "This will be my last All-Star Game, you don't know what I know"
Post by: manl_lui on February 13, 2013, 11:44:41 PM
IDK, i honestly think KG is a type of player that only will hang them up if he cannot play anymore. This dude loves the game way too much to just retire

but then again, this year was really bad for us. 3 Season ending injuries (with two being ACL injuries). That probably hit him somehow mentally.
Title: Re: Kevin Garnett: "This will be my last All-Star Game, you don't know what I know"
Post by: mainevent on February 13, 2013, 11:45:37 PM
I may be a super reader between the liner but don't be shocked if Danny told KG tonight that he's gonna trade him.

KG has a no trade clause doesn't he? Danny can't really move him anywhere unless KG approves it.

If Danny wants to move him and if KG thinks it would benefit the Celtics, he'd do it...and hang it up after this year, hence the last all-star game quote.

I really hope I'm wrong  :(
Title: Re: Kevin Garnett: "This will be my last All-Star Game, you don't know what I know"
Post by: GreenFaith1819 on February 13, 2013, 11:46:18 PM
Umm....can someone tell me who "Gethin Coolbaugh" is.....?

Have NEVER heard of him...

cheesy source from the sound of it. I'll wait patiently until KG officially says something

http://boston.sbnation.com/authors/gethin-coolbaugh

He's the regional editor for SBNation, and others have reported it. The quote is legitimate.

Trust me, I'm the first guy who calls shenanigans on bad sources. I don't bring cheese to the party.

Yeah, but if you listen to the youtube vid that ImShak posted, KG just sounds likes he's talking about the AS weekend....doesn't sound like he's getting shipped out of town or anything.

I'm still not reading too much into this - especially after the youtube clip from ImShak.
Title: Re: Kevin Garnett: "This will be my last All-Star Game, you don't know what I know"
Post by: go11celtics on February 13, 2013, 11:47:21 PM
I may be a super reader between the liner but don't be shocked if Danny told KG tonight that he's gonna trade him.

KG has a no trade clause doesn't he? Danny can't really move him anywhere unless KG approves it.

If Danny wants to move him and if KG thinks it would benefit the Celtics, he'd do it...and hang it up after this year, hence the last all-star game quote.

It would take an amazing deal for me to forgive Danny for not even giving this team a chance. I mean it may be a long shot but who really cares? I'd rather go down swinging than start rebuilding
Title: Re: Kevin Garnett: "This will be my last All-Star Game, you don't know what I know"
Post by: kgainez on February 13, 2013, 11:51:15 PM
but he was joking about 'should've taken the night off'

speculation will stress you folks out.

me? ima just enjoy the ride.
Title: Re: Kevin Garnett: "This will be my last All-Star Game, you don't know what I know"
Post by: indeedproceed on February 13, 2013, 11:51:45 PM
Umm....can someone tell me who "Gethin Coolbaugh" is.....?

Have NEVER heard of him...

cheesy source from the sound of it. I'll wait patiently until KG officially says something

http://boston.sbnation.com/authors/gethin-coolbaugh

He's the regional editor for SBNation, and others have reported it. The quote is legitimate.

Trust me, I'm the first guy who calls shenanigans on bad sources. I don't bring cheese to the party.

Yeah, but if you listen to the youtube vid that ImShak posted, KG just sounds likes he's talking about the AS weekend....doesn't sound like he's getting shipped out of town or anything.

I'm still not reading too much into this - especially after the youtube clip from ImShak.

Yeah just watched that too. He backtracked a bit, but the 'This is for sure my last All-Star game' and 'Yall don't know what I know' comments seem pretty indicative that he's at least been thinking about it. Like I said in my initial genius post, strongest comments thus far that he's thinking about hanging them up.

Now it's not a retirement announcement or anything, just some more cryptic comments from KG.
Title: Re: Kevin Garnett: "This will be my last All-Star Game, you don't know what I know"
Post by: ejk3489 on February 13, 2013, 11:55:25 PM
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Garnett, set to be a starter in his 15th All-Star appearance, affirmed that this would be his last All-Star Game. When a reporter asked how he could be so certain with two years remaining on his contract, Garnett replied, "Y'all don't know what I know."

"I’ll put it just like this: I’m more than grateful that I’m going to this game," said Garnett. "I’m not going to act like I got more All-Star Games in me, or whatever. So I’m actually going to enjoy this one with some friends and family. That’s what I meant." 

"[Rivers] gave me the opportunity to take the night off. I should have took that," joked Garnett. "I see everyone in here playing through everything, I'm no different than that. Paul [Pierce] is tired, everybody’s tired. No one is full of energy right now. I thought that was unfair. If [Rivers] wants to give everybody the night off, but that wasn’t an option. So I came out and gave what I could; tried to play hard, as always."

http://espn.go.com/blog/boston/celtics/post/_/id/4702346/cryptic-kg-ready-for-last-all-star-game

Could mean that he just thinks he won't be good enough to make the all-star game next year. But I wouldn't be surprised if he does hang em up after the seasons over.
Title: Re: Kevin Garnett: "This will be my last All-Star Game, you don't know what I know"
Post by: CelticSooner on February 13, 2013, 11:57:40 PM
Better enjoy his greatness while you can just in case this is his last season.
Title: Re: Kevin Garnett: "This will be my last All-Star Game, you don't know what I know"
Post by: Who on February 14, 2013, 12:00:06 AM
If KG does retire this summer, I will be really annoyed that Danny did not dump Pierce and other medium-term contracts at this trade deadline.
Title: Re: Kevin Garnett: "This will be my last All-Star Game, you don't know what I know"
Post by: StartOrien on February 14, 2013, 12:02:27 AM
If KG does retire this summer, I will be really annoyed that Danny did not dump Pierce and other medium-term contracts at this trade deadline.

They still have their amnesty clause.
Title: Re: Kevin Garnett: "This will be my last All-Star Game, you don't know what I know"
Post by: gpap on February 14, 2013, 12:02:44 AM
Hmm yeah interesting quote.

If KG does plan on retiring after this season, then wouldn't it make sense to deal him now to get some value for him before it's too late?
Title: Re: Kevin Garnett: "This will be my last All-Star Game, you don't know what I know"
Post by: indeedproceed on February 14, 2013, 12:03:09 AM
Quote
Garnett, set to be a starter in his 15th All-Star appearance, affirmed that this would be his last All-Star Game. When a reporter asked how he could be so certain with two years remaining on his contract, Garnett replied, "Y'all don't know what I know."

"I’ll put it just like this: I’m more than grateful that I’m going to this game," said Garnett. "I’m not going to act like I got more All-Star Games in me, or whatever. So I’m actually going to enjoy this one with some friends and family. That’s what I meant." 

"[Rivers] gave me the opportunity to take the night off. I should have took that," joked Garnett. "I see everyone in here playing through everything, I'm no different than that. Paul [Pierce] is tired, everybody’s tired. No one is full of energy right now. I thought that was unfair. If [Rivers] wants to give everybody the night off, but that wasn’t an option. So I came out and gave what I could; tried to play hard, as always."

http://espn.go.com/blog/boston/celtics/post/_/id/4702346/cryptic-kg-ready-for-last-all-star-game

Could mean that he just thinks he won't be good enough to make the all-star game next year. But I wouldn't be surprised if he does hang em up after the seasons over.

I think (and this is just speculation, not that it needs saying) that KG realized the finality of what he said, and said the second part to backtrack a little. He probably does feel like retiring after the season right now, it's been a tough month emotionally and physically for him, and he probably just wants to sleep in and rest right now. But who knows how he'll fee after he actually gets that chance to rest? Didnt take for Sheed.
Title: Re: Kevin Garnett: "This will be my last All-Star Game, you don't know what I know"
Post by: GreenFaith1819 on February 14, 2013, 12:03:11 AM
Well, the reality is that KG is the kind of player that would refuse to play if he couldn't compete at a certain level.

He could very well be approaching that certain level.

I guess we all knew this was coming - BUT: I'm sure he's going to give it his all THIS season.

Who knows? Perhaps Danny will get him some more frontcourt help, and then he decides to lace them up again next season.
Title: Re: Kevin Garnett: "This will be my last All-Star Game, you don't know what I know"
Post by: BASS_THUMPER on February 14, 2013, 12:04:37 AM
i'll miss Kevin more than i missed Walker

but not more than i missed Scalabrine.
watchin this team run without KG would be weird for awhile..hoping Paul run again..i guess im being selfish.

everything must eventually change tho.
Title: Re: Kevin Garnett: "This will be my last All-Star Game, you don't know what I know"
Post by: yagru on February 14, 2013, 12:09:11 AM
I guess I will watch the all star game this weekend then.

dam kg and his cryptic bs. It could mean a number of things, many of which end with him retiring. He has looked pretty wiped out at times this year with almost a look of regret for coming back lol.. but he still plays at such a high level. Just thinking about him leaving makes me very sad.
Title: Re: Kevin Garnett: "This will be my last All-Star Game, you don't know what I know"
Post by: action781 on February 14, 2013, 12:12:55 AM
If KG does retire this summer, I will be really annoyed that Danny did not dump Pierce and other medium-term contracts at this trade deadline.

They still have their amnesty clause.

Yeah, can't use amnesty on player signed since the CBA like Lee, Bass, Terry though right?   I think these are the guys that Who would want moved if KG retires.
Title: Re: Kevin Garnett: "This will be my last All-Star Game, you don't know what I know"
Post by: BudweiserCeltic on February 14, 2013, 12:14:31 AM
If you guys recall, Garnett wasn't an all-star last year... so why wouldn't Garnett believe this would be his last considering that his remaining year/years are already numbered.

I wouldn't read too much into it about this being a declaration of him retiring after this season.
Title: Re: Kevin Garnett: "This will be my last All-Star Game, you don't know what I know"
Post by: Who on February 14, 2013, 12:19:38 AM
If you guys recall, Garnett wasn't an all-star last year... so why wouldn't Garnett believe this would be his last considering that his remaining year/years are already numbered.

I wouldn't read too much into it about this being a declaration of him retiring after this season.

Yeah, I think KG is just not taking it for granted. Making the All-Star game I mean, taking that for granted.

He doesn't want to say, or assume, that he will have more ASG(s) in the future.
Title: Re: Kevin Garnett: "This will be my last All-Star Game, you don't know what I know"
Post by: Who on February 14, 2013, 12:23:01 AM
If KG does retire this summer, I will be really annoyed that Danny did not dump Pierce and other medium-term contracts at this trade deadline.

They still have their amnesty clause.

Yeah, can't use amnesty on player signed since the CBA like Lee, Bass, Terry though right?   I think these are the guys that Who would want moved if KG retires.
Yep, everybody. Garnett, Pierce, Terry, Green, Lee and Bass.

Free up as much cap space as possible to start building around Rondo and the rookie contract players immediately this summer. Not waste another season trying to move people before getting that cap space to open up.
Title: Re: Kevin Garnett: "This will be my last All-Star Game, you don't know what I know"
Post by: Evantime34 on February 14, 2013, 12:24:51 AM
Thoughts on this:
1. I hope he was just blowing off steam and venting because he felt worn down. Meaning that right now he feels like retiring.
2. I hope him saying "y'all don't know what I know" means he's leaning towards retirement and not the Danny is going to trade him like previous poster speculated.
3. If Danny did trade KG I can't see KG going for it unless Pierce was getting traded too, I hope neither of these things happen.
Title: Re: Kevin Garnett: "This will be my last All-Star Game, you don't know what I know"
Post by: OsirusCeltics on February 14, 2013, 12:25:18 AM
I called it..

(http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n114/TIGERRADIATION/kgface.gif)

The best GIF ever haha
Title: Re: Kevin Garnett: "This will be my last All-Star Game, you don't know what I know"
Post by: LooseCannon on February 14, 2013, 12:35:27 AM
If KG does plan on retiring after this season, then wouldn't it make sense to deal him now to get some value for him before it's too late?

It might make more sense to wait until the off-season, if he would agree to hold off on retiring until after he is traded, so a team can do a pure salary dump of a big contract, perhaps so that other team can create cap space to sign a max-contract guy.
Title: Re: Kevin Garnett: "This will be my last All-Star Game, you don't know what I know"
Post by: Evantime34 on February 14, 2013, 12:38:40 AM
If KG does retire this summer, I will be really annoyed that Danny did not dump Pierce and other medium-term contracts at this trade deadline.

They still have their amnesty clause.

Yeah, can't use amnesty on player signed since the CBA like Lee, Bass, Terry though right?   I think these are the guys that Who would want moved if KG retires.
Yep, everybody. Garnett, Pierce, Terry, Green, Lee and Bass.

Free up as much cap space as possible to start building around Rondo and the rookie contract players immediately this summer. Not waste another season trying to move people before getting that cap space to open up.
To me Green recently has shown me that he deserves to be in the discussion for the future.
Title: Re: Kevin Garnett: "This will be my last All-Star Game, you don't know what I know"
Post by: gpap on February 14, 2013, 12:42:20 AM
The more I think about it, I wouldn't really read much into this other than there's a good chance KG hangs 'em up after this season.
Title: Re: Kevin Garnett: "This will be my last All-Star Game, you don't know what I know"
Post by: GreenEnvy on February 14, 2013, 12:43:20 AM
Weird. I would think he meant it like he won't make it again, but to say he knows something we don't? Doesn't make sense.

Also, I heard AB say on the post game Doc asked KG if he wanted to sit tonight. Maybe something is hurting him? Could he just be worn out?

He will be refreshed after the ASB.

Next year, Rondo and P2 won't let him retire.
Title: Re: Kevin Garnett: "This will be my last All-Star Game, you don't know what I know"
Post by: crimson_stallion on February 14, 2013, 12:51:19 AM
Umm....can someone tell me who "Gethin Coolbaugh" is.....?

Have NEVER heard of him...

cheesy source from the sound of it. I'll wait patiently until KG officially says something

http://boston.sbnation.com/authors/gethin-coolbaugh

He's the regional editor for SBNation, and others have reported it. The quote is legitimate.

Trust me, I'm the first guy who calls shenanigans on bad sources. I don't bring cheese to the party.

Yeah, but if you listen to the youtube vid that ImShak posted, KG just sounds likes he's talking about the AS weekend....doesn't sound like he's getting shipped out of town or anything.

I'm still not reading too much into this - especially after the youtube clip from ImShak.

I have to say I'm a bit concerned with this.

To me KG looked a little bigger and emotional in the video interview there - he was talking very 'matter of fact' without any of his usual jokes, and at a few points it looked like his eyes were glassing over and borderline tearing up. 

There is another possibility as well - it's possible that DA has told the guys that a key player is going to be traded, maybe Pierce or Rondo.

The other day pregame somebody asked KG if he can imagine the team without Paul Pierce, and he replied with "I can't and I won't".  To me that was a pretty strong indication that if Pierce is traded out, KG is as good as gone.

Maybe Danny has worked a trade for Pierce, and KG has told DA that he will finish this season with the team, and then he's done.

One way or other this didn't look or sound like a simple "I don't think i'll be good enough to play in the All Star game", I looked and sounded more like a "I won't be around to play in the All Star game".

Also the "You don't know what I know" doesn't sound to me like KG suggesting he's just decided to retire for no reason.  If it was this, he would have been thinking about it constantly and most likely hold the thought until after the season.  This sounded like a very direct response to something major that has happened, which has instantly made his mind for him.
Title: Re: Kevin Garnett: "This will be my last All-Star Game, you don't know what I know"
Post by: PhoSita on February 14, 2013, 12:57:04 AM
If KG does retire this summer, I will be really annoyed that Danny did not dump Pierce and other medium-term contracts at this trade deadline.

This is where I'm at, too.  If this is KG's last ride, makes no sense to hold on for "one last run" when we're missing two of our five best players.

If at all possible, sell off the guys who have no real value beyond this season -- e.g. Pierce, Terry, and ideally Bass, too. Let KG have his last run on a team that can credibly challenge for the title.  I'd love to see him have one last go catching lobs from Chris Paul and chest-bumping with Blake Griffin.
Title: Re: Kevin Garnett: "This will be my last All-Star Game, you don't know what I know"
Post by: crimson_stallion on February 14, 2013, 01:01:59 AM
If KG does retire this summer, I will be really annoyed that Danny did not dump Pierce and other medium-term contracts at this trade deadline.

They still have their amnesty clause.

Yeah, can't use amnesty on player signed since the CBA like Lee, Bass, Terry though right?   I think these are the guys that Who would want moved if KG retires.

I believe we can only use it on Pierce and Rondo.  Both of those guys were resigned before the new CBA I think.

KG is probably not possible becuase his new deal was signed after the CBA.

If you guys recall, Garnett wasn't an all-star last year... so why wouldn't Garnett believe this would be his last considering that his remaining year/years are already numbered.

I wouldn't read too much into it about this being a declaration of him retiring after this season.

Yeah, I think KG is just not taking it for granted. Making the All-Star game I mean, taking that for granted.

He doesn't want to say, or assume, that he will have more ASG(s) in the future.

This is understandable, but it doesnt fit in with what he said. 

If that's what he meant you'd expect him to say "this could be my last All-Star game", but he said "this WILL be my last all star game". 

No debate, no 'maybe' in there - that was a statement made in point blank certainty .

The "You don't know what I know" just confirms this.  If he just figured he'd probably not get voted in, then that last comment doesn't fit.  It suggests there is a certain event that has either happened or will happen that is going to directly force KG to never play in an All Star game again.

Title: Re: Kevin Garnett: "This will be my last All-Star Game, you don't know what I know"
Post by: LooseCannon on February 14, 2013, 01:07:50 AM
Maybe KG plans on coming off the bench next season.
Title: Re: Kevin Garnett: "This will be my last All-Star Game, you don't know what I know"
Post by: droopdog7 on February 14, 2013, 01:07:59 AM
I would be very surprised if KG retired after the year.  I'll just leave it like that.
Title: Re: Kevin Garnett: "This will be my last All-Star Game, you don't know what I know"
Post by: lightspeed5 on February 14, 2013, 01:22:44 AM
sounds like he'll reduce his minutes significantly next year for the regular season... coming off the bench, etc.
Title: Re: Kevin Garnett: "This will be my last All-Star Game, you don't know what I know"
Post by: OsirusCeltics on February 14, 2013, 01:27:24 AM
If this is his last season (assuming the twitter source is true) then I expected it. When I saw that 3 year contract he signed, I was like "Theres no way he'll finish that contract"
Title: Re: Kevin Garnett: "This will be my last All-Star Game, you don't know what I know"
Post by: Chief Macho on February 14, 2013, 01:38:51 AM
how is this shocking at all?  jackie macmullen wrote about it a year ago.  the dude is in pain playing every night.  that's just the way it is with that many miles.  he probably should have called it quits last year but that late playoff run made him reconsider.   he knows now there isn't any chance to win the title again.  what would he come back for next year?   more trade rumors and no title?
Title: Re: Kevin Garnett: "This will be my last All-Star Game, you don't know what I know"
Post by: lightspeed5 on February 14, 2013, 03:05:08 AM
actually i take it back. I can't see KG coming off the bench, especially for 11 mill a year. Actually i dont think ive ever heard him say he's ok coming off the bench for the team. We've heard shaq say it, and ray allen said he was "ok" with it, but never from KG.
Title: Re: Kevin Garnett: "This will be my last All-Star Game, you don't know what I know"
Post by: chambers on February 14, 2013, 04:25:06 AM
You can look into this from a few angles.
I personally think KG is re-iterating that he shouldn't have been picked an All Star and there probably are some young guns that deserve it more.

More importantly, you look at how cooked he is right now and he'd just LOVE to have the All Star weekend off.
I'd say he might just take off the ASW next year or he'll take a backseat on the team when we sign a big free agent.
Perhaps he knows something about a player joining the Celtics that we don't?

If we have a nice run this year without Rondo, there's no reason to think he'll quit when he sees how good we can be.
He'll just have to take it easier on his body and take nights off like tonight and miss the All Star weekend when his body needs all the rest he can get.
Don't get too down. KG hasn't decided whether or not he's retired  at end of season yet. He'll look at the big picture and see who we can get.

Although it makes me excited that he knows something about a roster move or who Danny is gunning for in the off season.
Title: Re: Kevin Garnett: "This will be my last All-Star Game, you don't know what I know"
Post by: CroCorvus on February 14, 2013, 06:12:05 AM
plain and simple, he's telling DA to get him some help to win because hes not gonna play forever.
Title: Re: Kevin Garnett: "This will be my last All-Star Game, you don't know what I know"
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on February 14, 2013, 06:16:05 AM
Maybe he's saying it because he does not want to play another all star game? Or maybe he knows he won't make it next year.

God I hope he does not hang it up yet.
Title: Re: Kevin Garnett: "This will be my last All-Star Game, you don't know what I know"
Post by: Redz on February 14, 2013, 06:23:18 AM
Maybe they're getting rid of the game after this year and replacing it with the All New JayZ Lip Syn-Sync Slam Jam a-thon. 
Title: Re: Kevin Garnett: "This will be my last All-Star Game, you don't know what I know"
Post by: clover on February 14, 2013, 06:23:49 AM
If this is his last season (assuming the twitter source is true) then I expected it. When I saw that 3 year contract he signed, I was like "Theres no way he'll finish that contract"

If ever there were a player I wouldn't expect to see playing into mediocrity it is KG.  I'd be surprised if he plays next year.
Title: Re: Kevin Garnett: "This will be my last All-Star Game, you don't know what I know"
Post by: krook on February 14, 2013, 06:36:32 AM
plain and simple, he's telling DA to get him some help to win because hes not gonna play forever.

AGREE ON YOU FOR THIS ONE

if kg got a help from C position will he says bad for his future?
example even a guy like thabeet or melo type or meyers leonard, as long as he can rebounds and play 20 minutes per game, kg would be happy
Title: Re: Kevin Garnett: "This will be my last All-Star Game, you don't know what I know"
Post by: jarufu on February 14, 2013, 07:49:53 AM
The thought of no KG is saddening  :'(
Title: Re: Kevin Garnett: "This will be my last All-Star Game, you don't know what I know"
Post by: steefp2 on February 14, 2013, 07:53:19 AM
Maybe he's just thinking he won't be selected next year ? No ?

I say let's just enjoy him while he's here, can't keep him playing forever. I'm pretty sure the man must be dying sometimes on the court, given his age and the way he plays. Just enjoy the ride and be grateful for the memories, all we can do.
Title: Re: Kevin Garnett: "This will be my last All-Star Game, you don't know what I know"
Post by: Tr1boy on February 14, 2013, 07:59:53 AM
Maybe he declines the invitation, but i guess per nba rules, you can't do that or will get a fine. Can't see KG doing that

So yeah i think he will retire. OR he will retire and after the all star weekend, comeback mid season , for one last chance at glory. I'm sure while retired he will be dying at home, screaming at the tv, with family members begging him to go back and play ball

Title: Re: Kevin Garnett: "This will be my last All-Star Game, you don't know what I know"
Post by: pearljammer10 on February 14, 2013, 08:04:05 AM
Maybe he declines the invitation, but i guess per nba rules, you can't do that or will get a fine. Can't see KG doing that

So yeah i think he will retire. OR he will retire and after the all star weekend, comeback mid season , for one last chance at glory. I'm sure while retired he will be dying at home, screaming at the tv, with family members begging him to go back and play ball

I would guess he would decline and take the week off to be with his family and really get the rest he would need. I dont see him retiring completely after the season ends. But hey, Im no psychic.
Title: Re: Kevin Garnett: "This will be my last All-Star Game, you don't know what I know"
Post by: BballTim on February 14, 2013, 08:30:36 AM
If you think hard, these comments are really scary  :'(

We knew it was coming.  I don't think anybody actually expected him to play out the length of his contract.

  There's no way to know what's coming. Even if KG goes into the offseason planning to retire there's a decent chance he'll change his mind when the fall rolls around and he's not playing.
Title: Re: Kevin Garnett: "This will be my last All-Star Game, you don't know what I know"
Post by: Fafnir on February 14, 2013, 08:42:21 AM
If you think hard, these comments are really scary  :'(

We knew it was coming.  I don't think anybody actually expected him to play out the length of his contract.

  There's no way to know what's coming. Even if KG goes into the offseason planning to retire there's a decent chance he'll change his mind when the fall rolls around and he's not playing.
Or vice versa.
Title: Re: Kevin Garnett: "This will be my last All-Star Game, you don't know what I know"
Post by: KGs Knee on February 14, 2013, 08:53:15 AM
Sounds like a tired man venting.  Seems to me its a whole lotta nothing.

It sure is funny watching everyone get all twisted into a pretzel over this, though.
Title: Re: Kevin Garnett: "This will be my last All-Star Game, you don't know what I know"
Post by: JOMVP on February 14, 2013, 09:11:23 AM
It's been an odd week for KG comments. First that interesting quote where he says, "I won't share my thoughts on this team," and now this. Not really sure what to think of it, KG has never been one to hold anything back in interviews, always saying exactly whats on his mind.

My first thought was what if Danny Ainge told Doc that this is the last year for this group? What if he told him that he plans on trying to blow it up this summer cause its just not ginna work with this group of players and then Doc relayed that message to KG and Pierce. Maybe thats why we got that comment last week where KG seemingly shot a little criticism Danny Ainge's way during that, "I won't share my thoughts on this team," quote.

Then another part of me just wants to think that KG has never been the best with words and he made that comment and it had no real true meaning to it, cause he sounded like he tried to back off of it after he said it.

Title: Re: Kevin Garnett: "This will be my last All-Star Game, you don't know what I know"
Post by: Kuberski1 on February 14, 2013, 09:13:26 AM
Watched the video...not sure it meant anything.  At this point I think he's tired more than anything, and wouldn't mind taking a week off.  My bet is he's back next season...he's still playing at a high level....
Title: Re: Kevin Garnett: "This will be my last All-Star Game, you don't know what I know"
Post by: Kane3387 on February 14, 2013, 09:27:57 AM
TRADE HIM WHILE YOU CAN!!!!!  8)
Title: Re: Kevin Garnett: "This will be my last All-Star Game, you don't know what I know"
Post by: Geo123 on February 14, 2013, 09:28:55 AM
TRADE HIM WHILE YOU CAN!!!!!  8)

Since he has a no trade contract (one of the few in the NBA) good luck with that...
Title: Re: Kevin Garnett: "This will be my last All-Star Game, you don't know what I know"
Post by: Kane3387 on February 14, 2013, 09:46:41 AM
TRADE HIM WHILE YOU CAN!!!!!  8)

Since he has a no trade contract (one of the few in the NBA) good luck with that...

It was a joke....
Title: Re: Kevin Garnett: "This will be my last All-Star Game, you don't know what I know"
Post by: albas89 on February 14, 2013, 10:03:40 AM
I may be a super reader between the liner but don't be shocked if Danny told KG tonight that he's gonna trade him.
What makes me say that you say? Well, knowing KG the two comments he made speaks volumes. The first of this being his last all star game. He doesn't strike me as one who would forego the final two years of his contract if he was gonna be here in Boston, but the most cryptic of quotes was the one where he said looking back he should have taken the night off. That's not KG. That sounds like anger. Especially after getting the W for him to make a comment like that just doesn't sound right. This dude will play every night if we had a game every night this week. That quote just doesn't sit well with me. Lastly the final quote..."ya'll don't know what I know." I hope it's not true, but I think he's gone by the deadline.
Since KG has a no-trade clause, I'd say no... but how about taking it a step further: maybe it's not him that Danny is dealing, maybe it's Rondo! We all know how bonded they are... if Rondo is traded, KG will retire at the end of the season no doubt!

But yeah, probably it's nothing and we're reading between the lines too much...
Title: Re: Kevin Garnett: "This will be my last All-Star Game, you don't know what I know"
Post by: FatKidsDad on February 14, 2013, 12:55:46 PM
Maybe what KG knows and we don't is that now that Rondo is out Danny is bringing Ray back.

Its as plausable as any of the other speculation here. ;D
Title: Re: Kevin Garnett: "This will be my last All-Star Game, you don't know what I know"
Post by: snowball on February 14, 2013, 01:21:17 PM
KG ain't done yet. Look at the man play.
I think he's talking about how he doesn't
intend to play these kinds of minutes in
any future season. He cannot afford to burn out
over regular season games.
He's going to be a starter with limited
minutes.
He was only saying he's planning on treating
this ASG as if it's his last.
Now, if PP is traded, he may just retire,
that's the only possibility I can think of,
because he's just still too [dang] good a player.
If PP is traded that all changes.
None of what he said would have been said if
he wasn't so burned out over whats happened
in the last 2-3 weeks.
Title: Re: Kevin Garnett: "This will be my last All-Star Game, you don't know what I know"
Post by: saltlover on February 14, 2013, 05:24:50 PM
I may be a super reader between the liner but don't be shocked if Danny told KG tonight that he's gonna trade him.
What makes me say that you say? Well, knowing KG the two comments he made speaks volumes. The first of this being his last all star game. He doesn't strike me as one who would forego the final two years of his contract if he was gonna be here in Boston, but the most cryptic of quotes was the one where he said looking back he should have taken the night off. That's not KG. That sounds like anger. Especially after getting the W for him to make a comment like that just doesn't sound right. This dude will play every night if we had a game every night this week. That quote just doesn't sit well with me. Lastly the final quote..."ya'll don't know what I know." I hope it's not true, but I think he's gone by the deadline.
Since KG has a no-trade clause, I'd say no... but how about taking it a step further: maybe it's not him that Danny is dealing, maybe it's Rondo! We all know how bonded they are... if Rondo is traded, KG will retire at the end of the season no doubt!

But yeah, probably it's nothing and we're reading between the lines too much...

I’m going to keep reading between the lines.  When I first heard it, I thought it meant that Danny told KG a trade was going to happen after the all-star break, presumably including him and Pierce, which would likely push him to retire after the season.  I would also buy the Rondo-getting traded possibility, which would likely result in the same reaction.
Title: Re: Kevin Garnett: "This will be my last All-Star Game, you don't know what I know"
Post by: Boston Garden Leprechaun on February 14, 2013, 05:56:35 PM
I called it..

(http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n114/TIGERRADIATION/kgface.gif)


The best GIF ever haha



Thanks. now if you would kind sir please give me a TP for it!  ;D
Title: Re: Kevin Garnett: "This will be my last All-Star Game, you don't know what I know"
Post by: mctyson on February 14, 2013, 06:50:08 PM
Love KG, he has a couple more years left in him, but it would probably best for the organization if true.

In absolutely no way would it be best for the organization if KG retired after this year.  He is still one of the best big men in the game, arguably a top 5 defensive player, and he makes less money than Omar Asik.

People forget how much he means to this team.
Title: Re: Kevin Garnett: "This will be my last All-Star Game, you don't know what I know"
Post by: sofutomygaha on February 15, 2013, 10:16:32 AM

I have a hard time believing that KG would accidentally hint at retirement this way.

It occurred to me last night- maybe what KG knows is that he is going to need an off-season procedure. He obviously won't be an all-star next year if he has to sit out a chunk of the first half.

it's actually the simplest explanation, no?
Title: Re: Kevin Garnett: "This will be my last All-Star Game, you don't know what I know"
Post by: More Banners on February 15, 2013, 10:28:18 AM
Forgive me for not reading all 7 pages, but...

KG has commented several times this season, moreso over the past couple of months, that he didn't expect to be carrying a team at this point in his career, and that essentially it isn't what he expected (signed up for), and that his body has been hurting due to the challenges of age.  That's my paraphrasing, of course.

I don't think he signs up to be top dog, all-star, go-to franchise leader again.

It'll take some Popovich-like coaching for KG and Pierce to stick around much past this season.
Title: Re: Kevin Garnett: "This will be my last All-Star Game, you don't know what I know"
Post by: kozlodoev on February 15, 2013, 12:04:04 PM

I have a hard time believing that KG would accidentally hint at retirement this way.

It occurred to me last night- maybe what KG knows is that he is going to need an off-season procedure. He obviously won't be an all-star next year if he has to sit out a chunk of the first half.

it's actually the simplest explanation, no?
I don't think why anyone takes this as "hinting at retirement". It may well mean that he simply plans to reject Allstar invitations, if he's selected in subsequent years.
Title: Re: Kevin Garnett: "This will be my last All-Star Game, you don't know what I know"
Post by: slamtheking on February 15, 2013, 12:19:10 PM
would be surprised if KG hung it up after this year.  I could see him hanging in for one more year to take a shot at it with Rondo, Sully and possibly Barbosa with Danny having a chance to add on a hopefully-decent big in free-agency this summer.  THEN, retire with PP after next year possibly. 

(most everyone will be an expiring deal at that time and Danny can make some decent deals to unload JET, Bass, Lee and Green if necessary).
Title: Re: Kevin Garnett: "This will be my last All-Star Game, you don't know what I know"
Post by: MVPPierceNoJoke on February 15, 2013, 12:31:07 PM
Sounds like a player who is tired from the last three games and wishes he could get the same rest as Paul is getting. I take it as message to the fans that he won't play next season if he is voted in. And his loyalties to the fans are the reason why he is going to Houston.
Title: Re: Kevin Garnett: "This will be my last All-Star Game, you don't know what I know"
Post by: ScottHow on February 15, 2013, 12:34:20 PM
I think the y'all don't know what I know comment is the most interesting one. Implying that something is happening that is guaranteeing its his last ASG.

Hopefully when he does retire he stays on as a big man coach or something. I don't want him to disappear after retirement.
Title: Re: Kevin Garnett: "This will be my last All-Star Game, you don't know what I know"
Post by: rondohondo on February 15, 2013, 12:42:05 PM
Hopefully what KG knows is that we are getting Josh Smith in a trade, and smith will be taking his  allstar roster spot next year ;)