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Celtics Basketball => Celtics Talk => Topic started by: BIGTIME_CELTICS on February 13, 2013, 10:03:35 PM

Title: Hate the JET/AB Offence/Defense sub in late game
Post by: BIGTIME_CELTICS on February 13, 2013, 10:03:35 PM
Players need consistency...I understand AB is a great defender, but JET has played some great D lately.(blocking bellineli's shot as I am posting this)...AB committed a dangerous foul(too aggressive in a situation like this)..Also putting AB in the game takes away the outside threat that JT is.

It is pretty clear to me that JT's gotta be a star(at least Dallas form) for us if we try to make noise in the playoff. Doc got to trust him.
Title: Re: Hate the JET/AB Offence/Defense sub in late game
Post by: The Rondo Show on February 13, 2013, 10:11:03 PM
Disagree, AB is an elite defensive player and needs to be on the floor in defensive situations no matter what.
Title: Re: Hate the JET/AB Offence/Defense sub in late game
Post by: Fafnir on February 13, 2013, 10:11:59 PM
Abs foul consisted of Nate rob dribbling straight through his chest.
Title: Re: Hate the JET/AB Offence/Defense sub in late game
Post by: esel1000 on February 13, 2013, 10:12:42 PM
Honestly, for lack of a better term that AB foul was bull... he played Robinson well, didn't reach in and was not overaggressive. I agree with the poster above me, he needs to be in the game for his defense when its on the line
Title: Re: Hate the JET/AB Offence/Defense sub in late game
Post by: BudweiserCeltic on February 13, 2013, 10:16:04 PM
Disgree with what the OP is saying...

That said, when Jason Terry is playing like he was tonight, particularly playing effective defense on Nate Robinson, I think you keep him in the game since you're not gaining much defensively with Bradley, but losing out on Terry's offense.
Title: Re: Hate the JET/AB Offence/Defense sub in late game
Post by: pearljammer10 on February 13, 2013, 10:16:13 PM
I'm with the OP here. Terry is the vet an has made two huge game saving defensive plays in the last three games. Let him roll.
Title: Re: Hate the JET/AB Offence/Defense sub in late game
Post by: CelticConcourse on February 13, 2013, 10:19:34 PM
I think they should both be on at the end.

(Bradley or Lee)/(Terry or Lee)/Pierce/(Green or Bass)/Garnett
Title: Re: Hate the JET/AB Offence/Defense sub in late game
Post by: Snakehead on February 13, 2013, 10:22:26 PM
)...AB committed a dangerous foul(too aggressive in a situation like this)..

I really hope you aren't referring to that Nate Robinson foul.

AB had position.  He jumped into him.

Really one of the worst calls I have ever seen.  If that was bad defense I don't want to see good defense.
Title: Re: Hate the JET/AB Offence/Defense sub in late game
Post by: CelticConcourse on February 13, 2013, 10:24:53 PM
)...AB committed a dangerous foul(too aggressive in a situation like this)..

I really hope you aren't referring to that Nate Robinson foul.

AB had position.  He jumped into him.

Really one of the worst calls I have ever seen.  If that was bad defense I don't want to see good defense.

That was totally a legitimate foul, I think we should have done it. I remember how the Knicks lost last year just because Iman did not foul Pierce and Paul was able to bury that three...

They're still talking about "could've should've" ;D
Title: Re: Hate the JET/AB Offence/Defense sub in late game
Post by: timobusa on February 13, 2013, 10:25:35 PM
There was at least 3 bs fouls on AB.
Title: Re: Hate the JET/AB Offence/Defense sub in late game
Post by: Boston Garden Leprechaun on February 13, 2013, 10:26:08 PM
jet=$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Title: Re: Hate the JET/AB Offence/Defense sub in late game
Post by: rondohondo on February 13, 2013, 10:26:09 PM
)...AB committed a dangerous foul(too aggressive in a situation like this)..

I really hope you aren't referring to that Nate Robinson foul.

AB had position.  He jumped into him.

Really one of the worst calls I have ever seen.  If that was bad defense I don't want to see good defense.
disagree, Robinson got a step on him and Bradley fell backwards trying to stay in front if him, he wasnt squared up.
Title: Re: Hate the JET/AB Offence/Defense sub in late game
Post by: ImShakHeIsShaq on February 13, 2013, 10:34:49 PM
Players need consistency...I understand AB is a great defender, but JET has played some great D lately.(blocking bellineli's shot as I am posting this)...AB committed a dangerous foul(too aggressive in a situation like this)..Also putting AB in the game takes away the outside threat that JT is.

It is pretty clear to me that JT's gotta be a star(at least Dallas form) for us if we try to make noise in the playoff. Doc got to trust him.

How in the scenario you describe is AB taking away from JET being an outside threat seeing as it's offense for defense, Jet is in the game on offense.
Title: Re: Hate the JET/AB Offence/Defense sub in late game
Post by: action781 on February 13, 2013, 11:56:11 PM
Offense-Defense substitutions are not new in the NBA... This is a strategy that almost every team employs in the postseason - especially championship teams.

In favor for this and always will be as long as one player is the clearly better offensive player and one is the clearly better defensive player, which is exactly what we have here.  Terry-Bradley are basically the textbook roster to do this substitution with.
Title: Re: Hate the JET/AB Offence/Defense sub in late game
Post by: GreenEnvy on February 14, 2013, 12:31:48 AM
I find it funny that Terry came up with the two huge defensive plays in our last two wins.

His clutchness travels 94 feet.
Title: Re: Hate the JET/AB Offence/Defense sub in late game
Post by: timobusa on February 14, 2013, 03:50:06 AM
I find it funny that Terry came up with the two huge defensive plays in our last two wins.

His clutchness travels 94 feet.

3 actually

Rudy Gay Block

Andre Miller Steal

Marco Belleneli Block

So weird. Jet is the man!