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Other Discussions => Other / General Sports => Red Sox / MLB => Topic started by: Moranis on February 13, 2013, 02:06:11 PM
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Just out of curiosity, how many of you actually know the total amount of home runs Barry Bonds hit in his career.
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i'm guessing 672?
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First number that came in my head was right, but I quickly changed it to a different number.
In the end I was 4 off (on the high side).
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i'm guessing 672?
your numbers are reversed. It is 762, I'm just wondering how many people actually knew that. Like if I asked the question, how many home runs did Hank Aaron end his career with, I would suspect 95% of the people on this board would know 755, I just don't think Bonds' total is anywhere near as recognizable.
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I know he caught Aaron but barely, so 760?
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I thought I knew (and was correct) but wasn't absolutely sure.
762 is nowhere near as important as 755 or 714.
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I thought I knew (and was correct) but wasn't absolutely sure.
762 is nowhere near as important as 755 or 714.
I always felt the well known-ness of baseball numbers (or even sports numbers in general) went:
61>>>714>755
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where the option for "don't care what the 'roids boy posted. it's not a legit record."
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I thought I knew (and was correct) but wasn't absolutely sure.
762 is nowhere near as important as 755 or 714.
I always felt the well known-ness of baseball numbers (or even sports numbers in general) went:
61>>>714>755
I'd put 56 in that realm too. (DiMaggio hitting streak)
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I was in the I thought I knew and I was right category. Nowhere near as important as 755, 714, or 61. But his numbers dont lie and you can't take away the fact that he is one of baseballs greatest hitters of all time.
Spent a 1/3rd of his 21 year MLB career as MVP. Most of them before the roids accusations. Thats just silly.
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where the option for "don't care what the 'roids boy posted. it's not a legit record."
Completely agree with you, but we seem to be in the minority on this board, given the many comments on this board on a recent thread on PEDs. Check it out:
http://forums.celticsblog.com/index.php?topic=62566.15
Kinda sickens me.
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where the option for "don't care what the 'roids boy posted. it's not a legit record."
Completely agree with you, but we seem to be in the minority on this board, given the many comments on this board on a recent thread on PEDs. Check it out:
http://forums.celticsblog.com/index.php?topic=62566.15
Kinda sickens me.
Fortunately being in the minority doesn't make us wrong (especially about this) ;)
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Bonds record is legit! He was taking something not banned by baseball at the time he was hitting HR's. Also before he started taking HGH he was still arguably the best player to ever play the game. That's if you follow baseball!
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762
A legit 762
Most dominant player I have ever seen. You literally could not pitch to him. Baseball has been tainted (pitchers and hitters) with PED use for the better part of 30 years or so, and he has been the best of this era.
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What I don't get about baseball is how "greenies" i.e. uppers and various forms of "speed" are always overlooked. Those things were illegal, yet they were used by virtually every baseball player in the late 50's, 60's and 70's (through 2005 when baseball finally banned them) and they absolutely enhanced performance in that they got the players ready to play game in and game out. There really isn't much difference between them and steroids, especially given how widespread steroid use obviously was. I just don't get why guys like Mays get passes for greenie use, why a guy like Bonds gets crucified for steroid use. Totally hypocritical.
Jim Bouton a former Yankee pitcher in his book said Mantle and Maris were pot smokers. Dock Ellis pitched a no hitter while high on LSD. Now granted the performance enhancing affect of those drugs can be debated, but not of greenies.
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What I don't get about baseball is how "greenies" i.e. uppers and various forms of "speed" are always overlooked. Those things were illegal, yet they were used by virtually every baseball player in the late 50's, 60's and 70's (through 2005 when baseball finally banned them) and they absolutely enhanced performance in that they got the players ready to play game in and game out. There really isn't much difference between them and steroids, especially given how widespread steroid use obviously was. I just don't get why guys like Mays get passes for greenie use, why a guy like Bonds gets crucified for steroid use. Totally hypocritical.
Jim Bouton a former Yankee pitcher in his book said Mantle and Maris were pot smokers. Dock Ellis pitched a no hitter while high on LSD. Now granted the performance enhancing affect of those drugs can be debated, but not of greenies.
Exactly how I feel.
Furthermore, Bonds wasn't gaining an advantage on hardly anyone. 90% of the league was probably doing the same thing he was. Who cares!
Bonds was easily one of the best players ever. There almost nothing he couldn't do exceptionally well on a baseball field.
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After the lockout when fans weren't attending the game anymore because they had soured on greedy owners & the game lacked excitement, McGwire & Sosa SAVED the game! Steroids & mainly "Andro" brought baseball back to prominence. Owners, managers & Bud Selig the commissioner all knew Andro was in full effect but yet didn't place this drug on MLB do not use list. Why? The owners & Selig was benefiting from the notoriety that was stemming from the chase & making billions of dollars. It was so rampid & obvious that I once saw McGwire do a interview with the Andro bottle clearly visible in his locker! Lol Bonds who was clearly the best all-around player of our generation & at that time 4-5 time MVP was on the outside looking in at Mac & Sosa getting all the publicity & just wanted to be on the same playing field so he took HGH which was also not banned. They let him break all the records legally by the rules & wait for him to retire from making all the money he could for MLB & owners, then when he tries to go into the sunset they whistle blow! Just wrong! Bonds is a NO-BALLET HOF meaning there shouldn't have even been a vote. We knew what we saw for through 2 decades before the alleged HGH use. The man was the greatest player of any sport I ever seen & argubly the most dominant athlete of any sport all-time. Too bad he never left SF & played with other great teams or great players elsewhere.
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Cheater!
That being said he was a great talent and a Normal Guy juicing would not get those numbers or have the reflexes.
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i think you can argue the number is enhanced, but harder to say it wasn't a level playing field.
I feel lucky to have been able to watch Bonds during his hey day. Truly amazing hitter.